Second episode of the night just started -- soft, just like the others. Unlike the original airings, it's almost impossible to even see the film grain -- everything looks smoothed-over.

Are the House repeats in some kind upscaling? It definitely looks upscaled to me, very blurry. Among other things, you can tell in the credits because the text is very blurred and it should be sharp.

Are the originally aired episodes in HD?

I haven't seen last night's episodes yet (they are recorded and I will watch them tonight) but last week's episode was definitely in HD and it was a repeat.

FWIW, I didn't notice any significant change from the "first run" airings. Although, it is dangerous to make such comparisons from memory :)

I haven't seen last night's episodes yet (they are recorded and I will watch them tonight) but last week's episode was definitely in HD and it was a repeat.

Just finished watching the 2 recorded episodes and they looked HD to me.

Just finished watching the 2 recorded episodes and they looked HD to me.

It was definitely different from the original airings. If nothing else, there is a small black gap on the right side that occurs when something is upscaled. If you didn't notice a difference, it was probably due to the particular display you are watching it on, some will overscan the image and don't have the resolution to show how crisp something is. The text is blurry and not crisp so that is another indication. I recorded several episodes so far and can rewatch them so overall it's much different than other HD programming and very blurred.

I recorded several episodes so far and can rewatch them so overall it's much different than other HD programming and very blurred.

I guess you and I are the only ones that noticed it. Somewhere, David Hill is smiling ...

I guess you and I are the only ones that noticed it. Somewhere, David Hill is smiling ...

Let me put it this way ... To my eyes, it was definately more "HD" on Monday than the 5 minutes of "Nanny" that immediately preceeded "House" ... My visual memory cortex is not capable of directly comparing these repeat airings with those originals that aired months ago :D OTOH, did "House" look as good as live CBS NFL? ... no ... As always YMMV ... of course if anyone has the originals saved we could make a direct comparison ... :)

PS: I'm usually too distracted by the all dropouts and glitches on my local FOX affiliate to get too worked up over the PQ (or lack thereof) anyway :D

Let me put it this way ... To my eyes, it was definately more "HD" on Monday than the 5 minutes of "Nanny" that immediately preceeded "House" ... My visual memory cortex is not capable of directly comparing these repeat airings with those originals that aired months ago :D OTOH, did "House" look as good as live CBS NFL? ... no ... As always YMMV ... of course if anyone has the originals saved we could make a direct comparison ... :)

PS: I'm usually too distracted by the all dropouts and glitches on my local FOX affiliate to get too worked up over the PQ (or lack thereof) anyway :D

You can't really compare House to the Nanny. Anything compared to those Nanny upconverts would look better. The Nanny would be an analog 480i upconvert, while I think the House repeats are upconverted from something slightly higher in resolution, like 720x480p.

You can't compare CBS NFL HD to a Fox drama also. CBS NFL HD is 1920x1080i and effectively at 59.94fps, which really maximizes the potential of HD. House is 1280x720p 24 fps with repeated frames -> 59.94fps. CBS doesn't multicast and uses higher bitrates for their broadcasts, especially for NFL so it would have a bitrate around 2x higher than Fox perhaps. ABC's NFL at 1280x720p looks amazing for example, very comparable to CBS.

Anyways, an upcovert of House from 720x480 (DVD resolution) to 1280x720 will not be noticeable on all displays. Even on some high resolution displays, at a distance it is not as noticeable. But certainly, you are not getting the full resolution available on these repeats. It's going to look very soft.

This is semi-offtopic, but for anyone who was planning to buy House Season One on DVD, according to DVDTalk, Universal released these as non-anamorphic widescreen....completely amazing that this would happen in 2005. Just thought it was worth mentioning to save a few other people a good $35+ :).

Are you sure about that? I looked it up on both Amazon and the Universal Home Video websites, and it says:

Picture: Widescreen (1.78:1)

Yeah..."widescreen (1.78:1)" just means its widescreen, doesnt indicate whether its anamorphic or not. Besides, from what I can tell, Universal listed the specs as being anamorphic, but according to the review at DVDTalk (http://www.dvdtalk.com/reviews/read.php?ID=17208), they are indeed non-anamorphic. Universal also did this with Revelations.

Are the House repeats in some kind upscaling? It definitely looks upscaled to me, very blurry. Among other things, you can tell in the credits because the text is very blurred and it should be sharp.

Are the originally aired episodes in HD?

It's gotta be your display, kelly. House is one of the best productions, PQ-wise, there is. Recalibrate.

Wolfie

You can't really compare House to the Nanny. Anything compared to those Nanny upconverts would look better. The Nanny would be an analog 480i upconvert, while I think the House repeats are upconverted from something slightly higher in resolution, like 720x480p.

Ok I give in ... :D

Actually now that I've replayed Monday night, I recall thinking, "That looks a bit off" when House came on ... and the follow up thought was, "Well it's FOX..." :D Plus I don't recall seeing the "Presented in HD by ******" blurb.

I guess, to me, it just doesn't make sense to air the repeats in SD/Upcon unless they are upgrading equipment (like ABC) or are performing some secret, evil experiment. It's not like it's going to cost any more to run the repeat in HD ... :D

I just installed my antenna for OTA reception and am seeing FOX digital (in CT) for the first time. House did not look as good as what I've seen on any of the other networks. My question is whether their football telecasts are noticeably better and true HD? I hope so since seeing the Giants in HD was 75% of the reason for bothering with OTA. OTOH, If this is as good as FOX gets, I'm very disappointed.

It was definitely different from the original airings. If nothing else, there is a small black gap on the right side that occurs when something is upscaled. If you didn't notice a difference, it was probably due to the particular display you are watching it on, some will overscan the image and don't have the resolution to show how crisp something is. The text is blurry and not crisp so that is another indication. I recorded several episodes so far and can rewatch them so overall it's much different than other HD programming and very blurred.
I only saw the last 2 or so *new* episodes in HD. And that was a couple months ago, obviously. But I saw no difference in this week's reruns if my memory is good. Not as good as the football, but it wasn't when *new*, either. House has not been the best HD I've ever seen. Perhaps it is your local station affecting it. Also, my PJ defaults to zero overscan and House filled the screen. No telltale bars. I didn't notice any blurry text, either.

Or it could just be my memory or the fact I've been watching DVDs recently. Maybe I'm currently accustomed to 480p look.

Last night's 2 HD episodes looked good here.

It's gotta be your display, kelly. House is one of the best productions, PQ-wise, there is. Recalibrate.

Wolfie

It's not my display. Read a couple of my replies above.

OTOH, If this is as good as FOX gets, I'm very disappointed.

Fox is very good for live action HD material. Their dramas are not very good, they don't transfer their film very well (too grainy).

Also, my PJ defaults to zero overscan and House filled the screen. No telltale bars. I didn't notice any blurry text, either.

I can post a couple screen shots, if anyone is interested.

It's not my display. Read a couple of my replies above.

I doesn't appear as though you or I are going to win this one. If they thought these episodes looked like HD, well, not sure what to say to convince them otherwise. All I know is, I saw every episode during the original runs, and they looked fine (except for the pilot, which was very ugly) -- these last few repeats were compromised for some reason.

Sept 13 is fast approaching. New episodes!

Paul

Not sure what is going on -- FOX is running a movie right now ("Sweet Home Alabama") -- it was ID'd as HD, but it is just as soft as the "House" episodes earlier in the week. :confused:

Not sure what is going on -- FOX is running a movie right now ("Sweet Home Alabama") -- it was ID'd as HD, but it is just as soft as the "House" episodes earlier in the week. :confused:

... Again this was on par with what I've come to expect from FOX-HD ... :confused: :confused: :D

Why in the world would FOX take a 480i/p master and upconvert it, when they have a 720p master available? Seems like that would take more effort (and perhaps $$). OTOH, maybe FOX is experimenting with bitrates?

Well like I said, I'm not sure what is happening. To me, this looks markedly worse than the "norm" for FOX HD. It looks like it's an HD master, but it's been run through something that has blurred it. Why that would happen, I don't know -- I'm just reportin' what I see.

If it looks like this for the NFL game tomorrow, THEN I expect you'll see some serious whining here about it. :D

I am 100 percent positive they are not running a 480 copy and upconverting it.

It was definitely different from the original airings. If nothing else, there is a small black gap on the right side that occurs when something is upscaled. If you didn't notice a difference, it was probably due to the particular display you are watching it on, some will overscan the image and don't have the resolution to show how crisp something is. The text is blurry and not crisp so that is another indication. I recorded several episodes so far and can rewatch them so overall it's much different than other HD programming and very blurred.

I didn't see the original airings. I didn't have a HD recorder and 'House' conflicted with another programming. I started watching 'House' during the summer but the PQ is better than watching DVD. Could it be better ? Sure, but I don't think this was a SD upconvert. You need to also take into account that I'm watching the feed from a different station. WNYW (FOX NY) has a good feed most of the time.

BTW, my display is properly calibrated with zero overscan.

I am 100 percent positive they are not running a 480 copy and upconverting it.

I didn't mean to imply they were. I just remarked that there was something wrong about it, and I'll stand by that.

I didn't mean to imply they were. I just remarked that there was something wrong about it, and I'll stand by that.


Actualy I was not refering to your posts. You have simply stated that you belive its slightly off. Nothing wrong with that. It's your eyes :D


What I'm refering to is the folks here that are staiting as fact that it was a 480 copy. Trust me when I say that Fox is not going to make 3 coppies of a program. One 4x3 480i, one 16x9 720p, and one 16x9 480i. Simply NOT gonna happen. There is in fact a 16x9 480i version out there, but its for DVD, not terrestrial broadcast.

It's rumors like these that make people to this day say that Fox broadcast shows in 480p. They never had and never will. They did for a while send out a 480i signal which each station chose to upconvert or not.

Ohh and btw, I checked my tivo, they were broadcast with a big

"HD presented by Directv"

... of course what goes unstated is what method folks are using to get their FOX-HD ... OTA, cable, D* DNS, etc .... This could have an effect :)

For the record I get FOX Off-The-Air east coast feed

OTA Columbus Ohio, no multicasting

If this is just how House is, I definitely say they need to get the PQ a little higher in quality. At least, they need to bring it up to par with other Fox-aired HD dramas, which can be pretty darn sharp in detail.

I watched a couple episodes of House in the past and never had issues with the PQ. In any event, the PQ of these repeats is so off that I had to mention something. Even if you don't notice the softness on the particular display you are watching it on, that doesn't mean the softness does not exist. It could be that House is slightly lower than 1280x720 in effective resolution.

So we'll just have to see at the start of the new season how the PQ is.

Fox OTA West Coast, no multicasting

Displays tested:
Mitsubishi 55" Widescreen built-in tuner
24" WS Desktop LCD with TS, no overscan, upscaled and 1:1 pixel
19" Desktop LCD with TS, no overscan 1:1 pixel

I looked pretty carefully at this last night due to this discussion. It was definitely HD. At the beginning it claimed "HD sponsored by DirecTV" and it was full-widescreen without any bars/overscan issues. See my comment about a roof below, also.

I think their problem is focus, artistic decisions and camera personnel. While it wasn't as sharp as CBS football, there were many scenes that were quite sharp. Esp the overhead shots of the hospital or other buildings. I saw one particular roof that was sharp without any wavyness or moire that would be guaranteed in SD, possibly even DVD. But some scenes were clearly being focused as the action went on and some were just plain OOF.

I think with the dark inside shots (or director's preference) they are using wide open lenses too much and running out of depth-of-field and just plain missing focus. Too many shots of 2 people standing 2 feet apart and they (apparently) want one in focus and one out, or to keep shifting focus from one to the other. And they aren't doing it perfectly. Don't see the same thing on CSI, which is darker and usually using greater DOF, so House needs some technical help of some sort. IMO.

My observations come from an HDTivo (OTA) and a MT700 PJ (no overscan) on a 90" screen.

FYI, the first season is being released on DVD in September. According to an article in the Mpls StarTribune, it is being released in 16x9 format but not anamorphic due to the rush to have it brought out before season 2 starts. So those of us with widscreen TV's will need to use the Zoom feature to fill the screen, degrading the PQ.

so House needs some technical help of some sort. IMO.

I would agree with your observations if not for one thing: When these episodes aired the first time, they were MUCH sharper. I watched both of last night's episodes, side-by-side on two professional monitors -- one with the SD feed, and one with the HD. I was hard pressed to see any detail on the HD side that wasn't also plainly visible in SD. In the original airings, on wide-shots, I could read the labels on things sitting on shelves in the background -- but on these repeats, I cannot.

This doesn't seem to be limited to House though -- outside of the NFL game last Friday, I haven't seen anything on there that looked like HD for more than a week. Maybe I'm crazy -- I dunno -- but something sure seems different to me.

I had last night's episode on in the background but I did take a good look at it. This episode definitely looked better the first time it aired. I was watching on DirecTV and failed to check the Comcast feed, but it did not look very good. This show has looked much better than it did last night.

BTW, last night's episode is definitely Emmy material.

FYI, the first season is being released on DVD in September. According to an article in the Mpls StarTribune, it is being released in 16x9 format but not anamorphic due to the rush to have it brought out before season 2 starts. So those of us with widscreen TV's will need to use the Zoom feature to fill the screen, degrading the PQ.

The DVDs were released yesterday, and while the intro stuff (20th Century logo, FBI warning, menus) are anamorphic, the episodes themselves aren't. :mad:

Wonder when the "good" version will be released...

The DVDs were released yesterday, and while the intro stuff (20th Century logo, FBI warning, menus) are anamorphic, the episodes themselves aren't. :mad:

That is absolutely outrageous! What were they thinking?? :confused:

I would agree with your observations if not for one thing: When these episodes aired the first time, they were MUCH sharper. I watched both of last night's episodes, side-by-side on two professional monitors -- one with the SD feed, and one with the HD. I was hard pressed to see any detail on the HD side that wasn't also plainly visible in SD. In the original airings, on wide-shots, I could read the labels on things sitting on shelves in the background -- but on these repeats, I cannot.

This doesn't seem to be limited to House though -- outside of the NFL game last Friday, I haven't seen anything on there that looked like HD for more than a week. Maybe I'm crazy -- I dunno -- but something sure seems different to me.
Maybe it's time for a new set of contacts? ;)

I agree that overall it could be sharper. But there is definite difference from one shot to the next. I doubt the path to us could cause it. I tend to focus on beard/stubble when looking at sharpness in this show. Lots of detail in hair, pockmarks, pores to be seen on faces. The sharp level goes in and out throughout each episode. None of it matched the detail in HD tennis on UHD this week, again looking at stubble on Agassi and others, so definitely not the sharpest I've seen. Man On Fire on DVD is better than some of the shots.

They'd move the focus plane to the next character's face in some shots and sometimes it wouldn't quite make it to sharp/focused, even compared with 2 seconds before.

That DVD fiasco is just stupid. Somebody made a mistake. Hopefully the market will make them fix it and rerelease. Can't wait for 2 weeks from now!!

I agree that overall it could be sharper. But there is definite difference from one shot to the next. I doubt the path to us could cause it. I tend to focus on beard/stubble when looking at sharpness in this show. Lots of detail in hair, pockmarks, pores to be seen on faces.

I don't think it's the path to us either, but I do believe that something has changed in their internal video path, and whatever that is, it is softening the image. Even their upconverted stuff looks softer than it used to -- I use the text on their promos as my best gauge for that. The text is "smudged" now, and not sharp as it used to be (sharp for SD that is). The small text in the lower-third credits at the of programs is VERY blurred -- that used to be relatively crisp.

I checked out The Bernie Mac Show last night, and while it was HD, again, it had that "smudged" quality to it, and fell short of the original presentation. Something is wrong.

I watched the season premier tonight and the PQ looked superb- MUCH better than I seem to remember from last season. :)

I don't know if it looked better than last season, but it was most definitely better than the repeats have looked in the past few weeks. A very acceptable picture, though I still contend there is some blurring of the horizontal resolution on the FOX feed in general. The show that aired at 8pm, Bones, looked pretty decent as well, though again, with a slight horizontal smudge.

Tuesday's premier was vintage House, maybe even more biting than last season, and the female leads are looking even better than they did last year, Cuddy is HOT!! :D

I'd almost bet they switched to 32mm stock as opposed to 16mm stock like they used last year

I agree that the show picked up right where it ended last season. Another great episode and I like the addition of Stacy. Cameron is definitely looking better than last year.

Interesting tidbit on Dr. Foreman's (Omar Epps) background as gang member. I wonder if they are going to do some kind of follow-up. It would be nice to know the cast a little better outside the hospital.

J...Hugh Laurie & his amazing performances. hard to believe its the samer actor who played the feckless Prince Regent on BLACKADDER 3 & a host of similar characters on so many BBC comedies. if he doesn't get at least an Emmy nomination then the awards are totally meaningless!.

Edit: Dragging up a post from way back in this thread, but it caught my eye.

Agreed! And I get an even bigger kick now out of Blackadder when I catch it on BBC America. Blackadder 4 is my favorite.

On Emmy, I suspect Ian McShane might grab it for Deadwood. That show has got some powerful mojo.

Glad to see House back and in full cynical form.

(From Marc Berman’s Programming Insider column of Wednesday, September 14, 2005 at Mediaweek.com)

Fox roared to the winning finish line last night...with the second-season opener of House at a whopping 12.2/18 in the overnights, 15.7 million viewers and a 5.7/15 among adults 18-49 at 9 p.m. House increased on last year’s premiere (Nov. 16, 2004) by 8.6 million viewers (7.1 million to 15.7 million), and 111 percent among adults 18-49 (2.7/ 6 to 5.7/15).

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/newsletters/proginsider/index.jsp

Maybe it's just me, but was House a little too jolly in his caustic wit? It just seemed like Hugh Laurie was playing it a little different than last season - he was more miserable last year. Still making the same kind of biting remarks, but enjoying it where as last season they just seemed to be "coming out" because he was miserable, not because he enjoyed making others miserable. Again, maybe it's just me. Still a good ep. Maybe House upped his Vikes...

PQ looked about the same to me, never impressed by Fox's primetime HD.

Oh and Cameron is definitely looking better. Cuddy...eh, to each their own.
Sela Ward is still no slouch.

It could be that his lost love is now working so close and bringing out his "softer" side. All he has to do is forgive her for the decision she made concerning his leg, marrying another person, "ratting him out"---hmmmm, come to think of it, maybe he is a bit too jolly.

As a total aside, the promo for the DVD set with the snippet of Hugh speaking in his native language threw me. He REALLY can mimic an American accent!

Very strong return for Fox's 'House'
Debut averages 5.7 in 18-49s, up 10 percent

MediaLifeMagazine.com--Last year "American Idol" made "House" a hit. Now "House" is a hit all on its own.

Last night’s second-season premiere averaged a very strong 5.7 overnight rating among 18-49s, a 10 percent increase over the 5.2 it averaged last season.

It helped the 8 p.m. new drama “Bones,” which led into “House” at 9, to a 3.6 18-49 rating in its debut, a very solid number made more promising by 10 percent growth in its second half hour.

Last season “House” struggled during the fall until “Idol” debuted in January as “House’s” lead-in. Its November debuted averaged just a 2.7 rating.

From January to May, airing out of "Idol," the show more than doubled its previous average rating.
Though “House” averaged a 7.7 for its season finale in May, there was some question over whether the show could sustain high ratings without “Idol.” Apparently it can.

The other good news for Fox is that “House” helped lift “Bones,” which didn’t get great reviews, to a decent premiere, as it won its timeslot last night.

Fox led for the night with a 4.8 average rating and a 13 share. NBC finished second at 3.0/8, CBS third at 2.7/7, the WB fourth at 2.6/7, ABC fifth at 2.1/6 and UPN sixth at 0.9/2.

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/News2005/sep05/sept12/3_wed/news1wednesday.html

I'd almost bet they switched to 32mm stock as opposed to 16mm stock like they used last year

I don't recall anyone saying that last season's House was shot on 16mm. It always looked like 35mm to me -- much sharper than the confirmed 16mm productions, such as "The O.C." and "Malcolm."

Did anyone else notice that the preview of next week's ep was in HD? This is the first I've seen this on any Network HD show. Usually they switch back to SD 4:3 for the preview.

...

...PQ looked about the same to me, never impressed by Fox's primetime HD.

Oh and Cameron is definitely looking better. Cuddy...eh, to each their own.
Sela Ward is still no slouch.

I don't know why, but PQ was noticably sharper and brighter...and Cameron, though already quite attractive, looked stunningly better. Again, don't know why...makeup, hair, a year older?? What could it be? :confused:

Prision Break, Bones, and House have all looked excellent on FOX primetime.

I did notice some grain on House but generally it was good.

And the episode was superb!

I've been a House addict since show number #1. Just got HD in January 2005 and got my dedicated theater live in May.

I watched the premiere in the theater last night. It looked very good. Nowwas it just me or did some of the scenes with House and Sela Ward in the hallway look like isolated SD (grainier / soft focus)?

BTW, I have been totally lusted out over Sela Ward for years.

Did anyone else notice that the preview of next week's ep was in HD? This is the first I've seen this on any Network HD show. Usually they switch back to SD 4:3 for the preview.

They did that last week on The O.C. as well, though I don't think it's HD -- just 16:9 SD. As far as I know, they (FOX) don't have the facilities to produce those end credit sequences in HD -- if you look at the actual text of the credits at the bottom is it VERY, VERY, VERY soft. Even on the 4:3 SD feed, they are VERY, VERY, VERY soft, with a bunch of mosquito noise. Not sure why that has to be -- even a DVD can display text that is razor sharp.

I don't know why, but PQ was noticably sharper and brighter...

Not sure about sharper, but it did appear that the show was overall a bit brighter and more saturated. This is something that can most likely be traced back to the telecine sessions -- no doubt done intentionally.

I don't know why, but PQ was noticably sharper and brighter...and Cameron, though already quite attractive, looked stunningly better. Again, don't know why...makeup, hair, a year older?? What could it be? :confused:
I think it was hair, she added some blonde highlights or streaks, whatever they call it...it prompted me to recall the the season Maura Tierney did the same thing on ER.

Yep, it was the hair. And she might have had a little bit of a tan...she's a little tiger.
I hope they don't make her too whiny.

PQ just looked soft to me. Could be my setup, cable box won't pass through native rez and that junks it up I think. Good point on the saturation and brightness.

I think they decided to run the local news promo instead of next week's "scenes"...GRRR. :mad:

I concur with the comments that the overall picture seems improved this season. There still seemed to be variation from shot to shot, but it was not as obvious as last season. A good start to Season 2.

Maybe it's just me, but was House a little too jolly in his caustic wit? It just seemed like Hugh Laurie was playing it a little different than last season - he was more miserable last year. Still making the same kind of biting remarks, but enjoying it where as last season they just seemed to be "coming out" because he was miserable, not because he enjoyed making others miserable. Again, maybe it's just me. Still a good ep. Maybe House upped his Vikes...


I noticed this same thing. I don't like it.

I noticed this same thing. I don't like it.
Yup, agreed.

I don't know why....... but it also seemed to me like he was simply going through the motions rather than exhibiting that exuberant spontaneous wit of the past. Perhaps I just expected too much from the first new episode.

I suspect House is in need of more Clinic hours.

Did anyone else notice that the preview of next week's ep was in HD? This is the first I've seen this on any Network HD show. Usually they switch back to SD 4:3 for the preview.The most recent season of 24 had some 16:9 "scenes from the next all-new hour." It wasn't every week, but once in a while.

Did anyone else notice that the preview of next week's ep was in HD? This is the first I've seen this on any Network HD show. Usually they switch back to SD 4:3 for the preview.

The first preview in HD I ever saw was on the "Two and 1/2 Men" two-parter with Jenna Elfman.

Now, tell me this episode didn't just reach out and grab you then tug on your heartstrings. Wonderful episode and the best PQ I remember from this series.

Brilliant episode. Inspiring and heartbreaking at the same time. Definitely one of the best shows on television if not the best medical drama in a very long time.

amazing episode
one of the best i've seen on tv

The show amazes me with it's ability to entertain week after week. I'm especially happy to see them being "brave" with House with regards to his treatment of the cancer kid. You'd think they would have toned down his sarcasm a bit for her, but I got the feeling he gave her more cynism than he did last week's convicted killer. I like that personally.

The PQ was really good aside from a few fuzzy shots of House up close at the end.

This is getting to be the best show that I watch on TV!!! Excellent again!!

Whoa. Still mesmerizing in its second season. Laurie should have gotten the Emmy.

Paul

Excellent show. This is my favorite show so far this season, but Lost hasn't aired yet.

Laurie should have won the Emmy and the girl is this episode should win one for a guest appearance. She was very good.

BTW, the PQ on this episode was the best I've seen on Fox. The detail on the close-ups of the girl was incredible.

Agree ... "House" is one of my favorite shows. Great episode this evening (20/09).

AMEN to all of the above! Superb episode tonight. I was worried after last week's premiere, which didn't seem to quite hit the tone and standard of last season. Tonight's episode was a bulls eye.

My only criticism is of the way House's three flunkies are portrayed. These guys are still extremely rigid for the most part in the way they respond to him. You's think by now they'd be able to lighten up at least occasionally.

BTW, the PQ on this episode was the best I've seen on Fox. The detail on the close-ups of the girl was incredible.

You may recall earlier in this thread that I, along with a few others, were grousing about the poor quality of FOX HD:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6080210&&#post6080210

Well, not only has FOX fixed that problem, but now for some reason, it looks better than ever -- the fine detail I've seen in the last few days in Prison Break, Bones, and House rivals anything I've ever seen, anywhere. Really nice.

Another solid episode. House became my favorite show last fall and even Lost could not top it.

Excellent episode. Seems like the crusty, miserable House of last season is back. Laurie was robbed, although the writers weren't. There will be plenty of time for Emmys.
They should pull a Desperate Housewives and submit it for comedy. Not only is it one of my top 3 dramas but it's probably one of the funniest shows on TV, IMO.

I can't believe they had House snorting pills.

AMEN to all of the above! Superb episode tonight. I was worried after last week's premiere, which didn't seem to quite hit the tone and standard of last season. .
So was I.

It looks like it just took House one patient visit in the Clinic to get him back into rhythm.

Superb episode. :)

My only criticism is of the way House's three flunkies are portrayed. These guys are still extremely rigid for the most part in the way they respond to him. You's think by now they'd be able to lighten up at least occasionally.

I keep wondering how I would react if I were in a similar situation, working for a guy with a similar personality. I've narrowed it down to simply quitting, or just ignoring everything he says. Tough call though, especially when you consider just how much of an ass he is. But, I watch the show purely because his character IS an ass, but a very gifted one. Much better than your typical boring run of the mill hospital shows.

My only criticism is of the way House's three flunkies are portrayed. These guys are still extremely rigid for the most part in the way they respond to him. You's think by now they'd be able to lighten up at least occasionally.


I've noticed Omar Epps' character seems to have lightened up around House. Whenever House makes a racial remark, Epps' character just rolls his eyes and sometimes even fires one back. Last week when they were talking about the percentage of black men over white men that are executed, Epps' character fired back with, "No, they shouldn't quit executing black men, they should just execute more whites." (Or something along the lines).

He said, 'it just means we need to kill more white people.' Hilarious and a great response! I don't think there is anything wrong with the 3. He is ripping on them so much they don't have comebacks, at least 2 of them. This season he has been ripping on Dr. Cameron more than season 1 and she just doesn't have a response. It's all new material he keeps throwing at them, so they are just lost. Assuming I'm following the writers' correctly. Either that or you guys are right, and the writers are lost for Cameron and Chaise.

I want to go back to my assertion that they have some timing/camera issues with the focus. This is still a huge issue on blurriness. For some reason I watched the premiere again yesterday and I was seeing "stuff" unlike last week when I was watching the show. In one scene between House and the lawyer (why do names exit my head?), they kept switching between 2 cameras, each showing the face of one character and the back of the head of the other. And they were focused on the head instead of the face.

(From Marc Berman’s Programming Insider column of Thursday, September 21, 2005 at Mediaweek.com)

Despite a weaker lead-in, and competition from ABC’s Dancing With the Stars: Dance-Off, Fox’s House was on the winning map with a 11.0/16 in the overnights (#1), 13.50 million viewers (#2), and a 4.9/12 among adults 18-49 (#1) at 9 p.m.

This was one of the best episodes of House yet. I agree also on the picture quality, it was great.

I think one of the reasons that he is ripping Cameron is that she gets too involved with the patients. Doctors have to distance themselves from seriously ill patients and become a bit callous. Otherwise everytime one of your patients died it would be very depressing. House keeps his distance from patients normally, but sometimes he gets sucked in anyway as in last nights episode. For a doctor making life and death decisions, being too attached to a patient may cause flawed decisions.

BTW, the PQ on this episode was the best I've seen on Fox. The detail on the close-ups of the girl was incredible.
Watching thru D* and I thought it looked very good also. The shot when House was talking to the other doctor outside his office, and you could see the shrub in the background really caught my eye.

"And that's why you can't touch my markers"

Did anyone catch the House parody on MAD Saturday night. Mike McDonald looked exactly like him.

btw...my wife is a nurse, and she knew exactly what the girls problem was before the first commercial break. :)

(From Marc Berman’s Programming Insider column of Thursday, September 21, 2005 at Mediaweek.com)

Despite a weaker lead-in, and competition from ABC’s Dancing With the Stars: Dance-Off, Fox’s House was on the winning map with a 11.0/16 in the overnights (#1), 13.50 million viewers (#2), and a 4.9/12 among adults 18-49 (#1) at 9 p.m.
Hey Fred, according to this source, House was beaten by "Earl" on NBC: http://www.thefutoncritic.com/cgi/ratings.cgi?id=tuesday

Is there any way to reconcile the claims?

What?! You mean someone is skewing statistics to their own purposes? Shocking!

House will maintain those numbers, Earl will not.

Easy to explain, Joseph: apples and oranges.

“Earl” won its half hour, but “House” fairly easily won the hour. My bad, I should have posted more of the Berman report:

(From Marc Berman’s Programming Insider column of Wednesday, September 21, 2005 at Mediaweek.com)

“…My Name Is Earl at 9 p.m. debuted with a solid 10.3/15 in the overnights (#1t), 14.94 million viewers (#1), and a 6.4/16 among adults 18-49 (#1), building from lead-in The Biggest Loser 2 (Overnights: #3, 5.7/ 9; Viewers: #3, 7.86 million; A18-49: #2, 3.4/ 9 at 8 p.m.) by a hefty 81 percent in the overnights, 7.08 million viewers and 88 percent among adults 18-49…..

…Despite a weaker lead-in, and competition from ABC’s Dancing With the Stars: Dance-Off, Fox’s House was on the winning map with a 11.0/16 in the overnights (#1), 13.50 million viewers (#2), and a 4.9/12 among adults 18-49 (#1) at 9 p.m.”

I think one of the reasons that he is ripping Cameron is that she gets too involved with the patients. Doctors have to distance themselves from seriously ill patients and become a bit callous. Otherwise everytime one of your patients died it would be very depressing. House keeps his distance from patients normally, but sometimes he gets sucked in anyway as in last nights episode. For a doctor making life and death decisions, being too attached to a patient may cause flawed decisions.

That little girl really got to Chase, imagine what she would have done to Cameron if she had attended her? House knows his stuff. He was right in restricting Cameron to no patient contact in this situation.

I thought Cameron's quip, "Oh, I can touch the markers now?" and House's reply, "....in the even of my incapacitation..." was pricelesss, and perfect. Wilson's moral outrage at house wanting to be present when he told her that she was going to die was played very well too. Wilson was dreading talking to a patient, whereas House wanted to observe her reaction to see if it might be a symptom of the disease. I almost thought House was going to Hug the little girl back when she hugged him as she was leaving the hospital. He didn't, showing me that she was, in fact, braver than House.

I keep wondering how I would react if I were in a similar situation, working for a guy with a similar personality. I've narrowed it down to simply quitting, or just ignoring everything he says.
Most Surgical Residents choose the later.

btw...my wife is a nurse, and she knew exactly what the girls problem was before the first commercial break. :)
Wow !

You mean she knew where the thrombus apparently originated from as well as exactly where in the brain it embolized to ?

I’m truly impressed but, what do I know……
I’m from the lab.

The thing I like about this show is that House's character seems to be slightly evolving (along with his ducklings) as more layers of his psyche are unfolded.

I agree with Paul B., Laurie should have gotten an Emmy along with the writer.

I agree with Paul B., Laurie should have gotten an Emmy along with the writer.Is that the Emmy they gave to Spader? If so, too bad.

I like Alan Shore, but House rules!

Is that the Emmy they gave to Spader? If so, too bad.

I like Alan Shore, but House rules!
And the Emmy goes to.........James Spader, Boston Legal :(

And the Emmy goes to.........James Spader, Boston Legal :(


He may have lost the Emmy but he got to go on a badass motorcycle ride. :)

Damn right.......and driftin all the turns with no rear brake ! :D

I think the little girl taught him something.

Damn right.......and driftin all the turns with no rear brake ! :D




That impressed me!

Anyone else notice the dead cadaber they were practicing on blinked?

Wow !

You mean she knew where the thrombus apparently originated from as well as exactly where in the brain it embolized to ?

I’m truly impressed but, what do I know……
I’m from the lab.
Actually yeah. But then again, she is a neurosurgeons nurse. She deals with stuff like that

Anyone else notice the dead cadaber they were practicing on blinked?
That’s known as a dapper cadaver ! :)

Oh, I thought you said winked. :)

Actually yeah. But then again, she is a neurosurgeons nurse.
Then she has great legs as well as a fine mind !

And for goodness sakes tell her not to drop that Midas Rex drill on the floor ! :D

Is this a discussion group or a fan club? I think that the new season's shows were rather flat and have slowed to a crawl. The oddities of the character have been played for what they're worth and he's mostly too predictable. I'll probably check out the show occasionally to see if there's any improvement, but it is definitely not on my "must see" list this year. For those who are still enamored with it, I'm happy for you.

Just watched this week's ep, excellent, not as good as "Three Stories" but right up there with it. Think House learned something from that little girl..?

And as noted earlier, Cameron is looking very, very nice this season. :)

Yes, she is. Problem is, though, that they often show her in the same scene with House, which means she doesn't smile and has a pained look on her face.

Is this a discussion group or a fan club? I think that the new season's shows were rather flat and have slowed to a crawl. The oddities of the character have been played for what they're worth and he's mostly too predictable. I'll probably check out the show occasionally to see if there's any improvement, but it is definitely not on my "must see" list this year. For those who are still enamored with it, I'm happy for you.
Well, until you showed up it was a fan club.

Is this a discussion group or a fan club? .
Well if you like discussion groups then head on over to the BONES thread and ye will be fulfilled. :)

Of course you might not want to dally with that "Bones" group.

If the show's writing doesn't get better in a hurry it will have major problems against "NCIS".

But back On Topic: I think both the writing and production on "House" continue to evolve and improve. That Emmy for writing was well-deserved.

Of course you might not want to dally with that "Bones" group.

If the show's writing doesn't get better in a hurry it will have major problems against "NCIS".

But back On Topic: I think the writing and production on "House" continues to evolve and improve. The Emmy for writing was well-deserved.
Yup, I think it will continue to get better...the only thing that scares me is that it is on FOX, which can be fairly schizoid at times with their programming moves and such.

We know it's going to move (if Bones doesn't collapse) to Monday when American Idol comes on-line. One night: House, 24, CSI:Miami. Whew!

Paul

I really enjoyed the episode, it had some particularly inspired use of music. Can't wait for the 2nd Season Soundtrack album so that I can get a recording of that Elvis Costello cover of Christina Aguilera's "Beautiful".

"Bones" may limp along, Paul, but unless something fairly dramatic changes, I can't see it doing well against NCIS.

Maybe if Fox were to flop the Wednesday at 8 comedies ("That 70s Show" and "Stacked") with "Bones" it might have a chance, with no other procedural competing against it.

But they still need to quickly sharpen the writing and the likeablity of the two main characters -- not to mention her ghastly and basically unappealing staff.

Yup, I think it will continue to get better...the only thing that scares me is that it is on FOX, which can be fairly schizoid at times with their programming moves and such.
Keenan you ARE the eternal optimist. :)

Perhaps I will watch one more episode of dem Bones --just to see if they again show that aerial view of the chapel where my wife and I were married. :cool:

P.S. House is a keeper.
Has anyone purchased the DVD of the first season?

Keenan you ARE the eternal optimist. :)

Perhaps I will watch one more episode of dem Bones --just to see if they again show that aerial view of the chapel where my wife and I were married. :cool:

P.S. House is a keeper.
Has anyone purchased the DVD of the first season?
I was speaking about House, I should have removed the first part of the quote I quoted.. :o

I don't think Bones will make it past mid-season..

Not at all, I just shouldn't have had any wine with a small lunch. :D

:)

P.S. House is a keeper.
Has anyone purchased the DVD of the first season?

I did, and it's a huge disappointment because it isn't non-anamorphic. It's letterbox widescreen. Why the hell Universal released it this way is beyond my comprehension.

If you want the first season collection, I recommend waiting until they release the non-anamorphic version.

I did, and it's a huge disappointment because it isn't non-anamorphic. It's letterbox widescreen. Why the hell Universal released it this way is beyond my comprehension.

If you want the first season collection, I recommend waiting until they release the non-anamorphic version.

There was a short blurb about this in the minneapolis startribune. It said that they rushed to get the DVD out before Season 2 started, and that was why it was non-anamorphic. Whatever.

From what I've read, it's a simple matter of checking a box that says "anamorphic" during the encoding process.

I'm guessing the guy that encoded/mastered this DVD set was the same guy that also did Revelations, because that was non-anamorphic as well. His resume is probably on monster.com right now.

I love the cover story though -- "we had to get it out before season 2 started"...please.

Wasn't the first season of CSI released in 4:3? One of the biggest HD shows was. It's amazing how stupid some of these studios are.

Wasn't the first season of CSI released in 4:3?

Yes it was -- and the same thing with season 1 of The O.C. As I recall, the studios were making a claim the shows were composed for 4:3, so that was actually the correct aspect ratio. That very well may be correct, but still, I think you'd be hard pressed to find someone who preferred the 4:3 version ...

Hugh Jackman does a convincing American accent. I believe he's Austrailian.

Hmmm...do you mean Hugh Laurie, taz? If so, then, yes he does, but so does Mark Addy in "Still Standing" and "The Flintstones" movies. I believe they're both from England.

Wolfie

Hmmm...do you mean Hugh Laurie, taz? If so, then, yes he does, but so does Mark Addy in "Still Standing" and "The Flintstones" movies. I believe they're both from England.

Wolfie

No, I meant Hugh Jackman. We were talking about convincing American accents, so I threw his name into the ring. Hugh Laurie is British, Jackman is an Aussie.

No, I meant Hugh Jackman. We were talking about convincing American accents, so I threw his name into the ring. Hugh Laurie is British, Jackman is an Aussie.

My bad.

Wolfie

Another great show last night.

Did anyone notice that they never looked at the lawsuit papers and just assumed it was from the main patient? I thought it could have been from the "get whitie" guy.

It's obvious the ex has some influence on House's softer side. He never would have said those things to Cutty otherwise.

Another great show last night.

Did anyone notice that they never looked at the lawsuit papers and just assumed it was from the main patient? I thought it could have been from the "get whitie" guy.
I thought the exact same thing.

Love how with a black patient Foreman gets all worked up over House's methods, but House has done essentially the same thing every single episode. Never bothered him before past rolling his eyes. Not to mention Foreman had the same attitude with the patient the day before. Typical racist BS, even in fiction.

Hey, speaking of Cuddy....didn't they come right out and say (in season one) House & Cuddy dated at some point in the past? Now yesterday it's all coy. Am I just remembering wrong?

I thought the exact same thing.

Love how with a black patient Foreman gets all worked up over House's methods, but House has done essentially the same thing every single episode. Never bothered him before past rolling his eyes. Not to mention Foreman had the same attitude with the patient the day before. Typical racist BS, even in fiction.

I was thinking the same thing, normally Foreman just lets things like that roll. It may be setting something up in future epps (pun intended).

Hey, speaking of Cuddy....didn't they come right out and say (in season one) House & Cuddy dated at some point in the past? Now yesterday it's all coy. Am I just remembering wrong?

I could have sworn that was mentioned at the beginning of season one.

Another great show last night.

Did anyone notice that they never looked at the lawsuit papers and just assumed it was from the main patient? I thought it could have been from the "get whitie" guy.


I was thinking that house went to him and told him to sue, because he knew it would make cuddy feel better.

I was thinking that house went to him and told him to sue, because he knew it would make cuddy feel better.


Didn't think about it that way.

I was rolling whne they broke into Cuddie's place and House says "I betting on Pink Thongs" then he pulls one out.

Not to mention the key under the flower pot.

I thought the exact same thing.

Love how with a black patient Foreman gets all worked up over House's methods, but House has done essentially the same thing every single episode. Never bothered him before past rolling his eyes. Not to mention Foreman had the same attitude with the patient the day before. Typical racist BS, even in fiction.
Ah, but you forgot…..if you want the REAL good stuff, you’ve also specifically got to ask for the “Republican” meds - which HOUSE wrote for. :D

No "House" tonight (and for the next three weeks) Arrrrrgggh!

Paul

No "House" tonight (and for the next three weeks) Arrrrrgggh!

Paul

I am going to try Commander in Chief in House's spot tonight.

Commander in Chief is a good show so far. I think this might be Gena's perfect role. An independent VP who is now the President after the Right-wing sitting president died from heart failure. Honestly I feared she'd be a flaming liberal as we have the West Wing for that. Time will tell. I'll record it while watching House in the future.

No "House" tonight (and for the next three weeks) Arrrrrgggh!

Paul

Sucks.

I need my House!

I really hate baseball.

I really hate baseball.
Well just think, since baseball is taking over the month, that means more new episodes of House in back to back weeks instead of 2 new episodes and then 3 reruns.

Until Thanksgiving and then Christmas.....

Those don't count.

I was all set last night to sit down in the theater and watch the latest episode of House. Until my wife told me that we don't get any new ones until November and that Baseball screwed us up. Crap, I forgot about that.

Instead of checking out shows I am not going to be leaving House for when it comes back on, I watched a special on Discovery HD Theater on Bora Bora. Wow, I need to win lotto so I can go there!

Opinions sought: Did you prefer the "Cameron is uncomfortable around House because she likes him" plotline, or do you favor the "Cameron hates House like most people do" approach?

The first choice for me.

Opinions sought: Did you prefer the "Cameron is uncomfortable around House because she likes him" plotline, or do you favor the "Cameron hates House like most people do" approach?
I prefer the "Make Cameron look hot in every scene" plotline. :cool:

But if I have to choose, I choose #2.

Opinions sought: Did you prefer the "Cameron is uncomfortable around House because she likes him" plotline, or do you favor the "Cameron hates House like most people do" approach?
I’ll take gurney #1.

As I’m hoping that HOUSE will proposition her in this state of mind along with another of his co-workers (during a hallway chat) for an after-hours three-way when he's on a roll.

The first choice for me.

For me as well.

First one for me too, it provides more diversity in the show. It's easy to hate House, it's something else to like him.

Did anybody catch this show last night?? I am on the East Coast, and the Angels-Sox game dragged on till 11:30, while Fox's website was saying that House would follow the game. I watched till 11:45PM, and gave up on it. My TiVO says House does not have any shows lined up over the next two weeks.

Probably means after baseball is over, like November. The actual quote is, "Tuesdays after baseball".

Probably means after baseball is over, like November. The actual quote is, "Tuesdays after baseball".


Yeah, I probably misinterpreted the "after baseball" part. :rolleyes:

Probably means after baseball is over, like November. The actual quote is, "Tuesdays after baseball".
November 1st

House is back! One of my favorite actors, Ron Livingston guest starts tonight (11/1/05). Don't miss it.

Finally, it seems as if it's been ages since House has been on.

Oh yeah that's who Ron Livingston is (peter from office space) Sweet!

house is such an ass, i love him. so glad its back.

Who will be playing House's parents next week?

Who will be playing House's parents next week?

The great R. Lee Ermey will play House's dad. Don't know who plays his mom, though.

Sounds like perfect casting to me.

I sure hope my DVR caught last night's episode. Nuts.

Yeah, I am glad it's back as well.

On a side note, Dr. Allison Cameron is sure skinny! They had the shot of her standing there when the patient was leaving. She is very pretty, but man is she skinny! Of course, Cuddy is really small as well.

The great R. Lee Ermey will play House's dad. Don't know who plays his mom, though.

My favorite x jarhead.

Diane Baker plays his mom.

I thought last night's episode was fairly weak. Didn't enjoy it as much as I have others recently. Ah well, can't win every week.

Maybe it's just my local affiliate, but every House episode I watch in HD has some serious breakup/drop-outs about half way in. Last night, when House confronted his Dr. patient and apparently threw his meds in the toilet, it became a slide show for several minutes. This happens every week pretty much. I even switched quickly to the OTA version and it too was suffering. That is why I think it could be my affiliate in Baltimore. But why only this show? Prison Break (same channel) doesn't do this nor any others that I notice. Any ideas? Thanks (Love this show/character).

LOL "... Just a salad for me, today ..."

I especially enjoyed the clinic visit where I think some of his one-liners are zee best.……but……I guess now you can add the hospital cafeteria as a new venue! :D

Didn't like last night's episode as well. The writing seemed forced. I hope they don't make House into a caricature.

Enjoyed last night's episode as well. R. Lee Ermey as House's father?

A flood of classic "Full Metal Jacket" lines come to mind.

Whew!

Paul

Maybe it's just my local affiliate, but every House episode I watch in HD has some serious breakup/drop-outs about half way in. Last night, when House confronted his Dr. patient and apparently threw his meds in the toilet, it became a slide show for several minutes. This happens every week pretty much. I even switched quickly to the OTA version and it too was suffering. That is why I think it could be my affiliate in Baltimore. But why only this show? Prison Break (same channel) doesn't do this nor any others that I notice. Any ideas? Thanks (Love this show/character).

My broadcast in Austin was absolutely unwatchable. We missed at least half the show--no audio, extreme pixelization, flipping back and forth between HD and SD. Disgusting. I am looking for someone who has a tape of the show intact that I may be able to borrow.

LOL "... Just a salad for me, today ..."

Good stuff, even better when House looked into the camera and said, "THAT is not TB."


Personally, I thought this episode had a somewhat weak plot (although the TB issue is about as important as it gets), although very strong performances from especially House and Capt. Nixon (Ron L.). The scenes between House and his Oncologist buddy were especially good.

I actually found the beginning and ending of this episode very strong, with some weak parts in between. All in all, a very enjoyable return for House, M.D.

I watched House in HD D** and had a very good picture , No pix-zation or audio problems from the NY DNS feed here. great story line but didn't buy the crap about the TB and pills, just take them like every priviliged american should!

Oh yea anyone want a copy, I tivo-ed it, just send me a Dvd recorder or wait till X-mas when I get one, because right now I'm broke since spending $4.5k

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Good stuff, even better when House looked into the camera and said, "THAT is not TB."

I liked the Oncologist’s follow-up comment.... "Compelling TV"…….it fit in well with the plot line and at the same time……. it was almost a pun directed to all of us. :)

Another GREAT episode tuesday.

is it just me or is Lisa Edelstein (Dr Cameron) even more fetching this season? I think they fixed up her hair or gave her color contacts or something.

she IS skinny, though. well petite I should say.

is it just me or is Lisa Edelstein (Dr Cameron) even more fetching this season? I think they fixed up her hair or gave her color contacts or something.

she IS skinny, though. well petite I should say.

So, are you talking about Dr. Cuddy or Dr. Cameron? Lisa Edelstein is Dr. Cuddy and Jennifer Morrison plays Dr. Cameron. I will assume you are talking about Jennifer.

I agree that she looks better this year. But, I have to say, I would not call her petite. According to my wife who is 5'1", petite is 5'3" and under and she is listed as being 5'5" tall according to IMDB. Petite is height, not weight. :rolleyes:

It's just different makeup. And brighter scenes. She is skinny. Can't think of a better word.

I was shocked at how skinny Cameron looked after you guys pointed it out.
Eat something. Please.

I can't wait for next week with R. Lee!!

The word you all may be searching for is "slender." Sounds nicer than "skinny," doesn't it? It's almost a shame that her character is so serious; she has quite a smile.

The word you all may be searching for is
Hottie ? :)

Surprisin what that long baggy white coat does for people of different proportions !

And speakin of appearances, is it me or did House look like he’s gotten an interim haircut and/or touch of hair color change since the previous episode ?

So, are you talking about Dr. Cuddy or Dr. Cameron? Lisa Edelstein is Dr. Cuddy and Jennifer Morrison plays Dr. Cameron. I will assume you are talking about Jennifer.

I agree that she looks better this year. But, I have to say, I would not call her petite. According to my wife who is 5'1", petite is 5'3" and under and she is listed as being 5'5" tall according to IMDB. Petite is height, not weight. :rolleyes:

you're right I meant Jennifer Morrison.

I call her petite b/c she's not just thin but has a slight built.

When they did that pull away shot and she was wearing those slacks, my wife said the same thing. "Man did she get thin this year." Frankly I think she's looking a little too thin myself.

Did you see how small her arms were? She will be on Dr Phil soon.

She needs to gain like 10 - 15 pounds. That skinny is just not attractive, personally.

I was a bit disappointed by House's parents. I was hoping for more confrontation, but they seemed like very nice people. I also wish Stacy would make more appearances. Still overall it was another good episode.

I recognized House's father as the guy that did the weapon's show on the history channel, I think his name is Armey, just an ok actor. Glad the radioactive kid finally
made amends with his dad before he's gone.

Sorry it was ERMEY not ARMEY

...I think his name is Armey, just an ok actor.

R. Lee Ermey, and he really didn't get much time on the show last night. Check him out in Full Metal Jacket and you'll really come to appreciate how good he can be on screen.

A brief appearance by Ermey makes it more interesting in the long run -- Leave 'em wanting more.

Good episode.

Paul

R. Lee Ermey, and he really didn't get much time on the show last night. Check him out in Full Metal Jacket and you'll really come to appreciate how good he can be on screen.

Ditto that sentiment.

I thought it was an ok episode, but I am worried about next week... I was so hoping they would drop the Sela Ward storyline.

Interesting that they didn't actually show us the kid die. If you assume he did, then by my count House has only lost 2 patients so far...

Did you count the 2 or 3 he killed in order to bring them back later?

I liked it a lot, as usual, but I too had hoped for more from the parents. The setup with Cameron getting herself invited to dinner sounded delicious. Watching House squirm and the potential for interaction with them and Dr. Wilson and Cameron just seemed too good to miss. Sadly, it was almost non-existent. Still in all, a good show that I continue to enjoy.

Does anybody know if the parents will be back this season?

You're trying to objectively measure how much I value our friendship?


It's five grand. You got nothing to be ashamed of.

:D

That was hilarious. :D

No way is Cameron "over" House.

paul

This is one of my fave shows, and to my eye perhaps the most jaw-dropping awesome HD PQ for its detail and clarity (OTA in Raleigh, NC).

Did you count the 2 or 3 he killed in order to bring them back later?

No, I'm counting the ones we (presume) stay dead ;)

I was so hoping they would drop the Sela Ward storyline.


Not me. I loved her line in an earlier episode where she said to House: "I'm a lawyer-you're a jerk. Our paths were bound to cross."

I wish she would be in more episodes.

Hottie ? :)

Surprisin what that long baggy white coat does for people of different proportions !

And speakin of appearances, is it me or did House look like he’s gotten an interim haircut and/or touch of hair color change since the previous episode ?



I think it's a little sun burn from his new motorcycle

That was hilarious. :D
How about his colleagues comments concerning whether House is a product of genetics, environmental upbringing….or a completely anomalous being that came right out of the womb bugging his parents/and other people ?

I think it's a little sun burn from his new motorcycle
For that matter, applying his rear brake, must be an interesting experience. :eek:

FYI, for those that were curious or maybe didn't even care, the bike he was riding was a Honda CBR1000RR Repsol replica edition. It was modeled after the paint on the Repsol bike that is used for MotoGP racing. The Repsol riders for this season are Nicky Hayden from the U.S.A. and Max Biaggi from Italy.
http://powersports.honda.com/images/model/c028_029_030_031_photos_all/motorcycles/2005/CBR1000RR/LargeHoriz/CBR1000RR_large_03.jpg
http://powersports.honda.com/motorcycles/sport/model.asp?ModelName=CBR1000RR&ModelYear=2005&ModelId=CBR10RR5
http://images.motogp.com/multimedia2/394/394384_90054.jpg
http://www.motograndprix.com/en/motogp/index.htm

BTW, Penton-Man, what do you need a rear brake for? The only time I use mine is if I have to stop VERY fast. Otherwise, I never use the rear brake. All your stopping power comes from the front anyway.

FYI, for those that were curious or maybe didn't even care, the bike he was riding was a Honda CBR1000RR Repsol replica edition.
Well, I like your motorcycle too! :)

Did I mention I live in Brea ? :D

BTW, Penton-Man, what do you need a rear brake for? The only time I use mine is if I have to stop VERY fast. Otherwise, I never use the rear brake. All your stopping power comes from the front anyway.
Ah, to stop VERY, VERY fast and for……………………………………………………..







QUICK directional changes but, that’s my off-road roots talkin. :D

You're trying to objectively measure how much I value our friendship?


It's five grand. You got nothing to be ashamed of.

:D

Classic!

I really enjoyed this episode a lot. The show is only getting better in my opinion. Probably my favorite show on television right now (CSI being close second).

Did I mention I live in Brea ? :D

Well, turns out I bought my motorcycle from a neighbor of yours! I got it from a guy named Michael Jackson (not kidding here) in South Gate.

Anyway, enough about us, we should get back on topic and talk more about House.

I especially like the fact that the show is retaining its backbone with the perplexing patient case/s intermixed with clinic visits but adds more spice to the mix with things like his parent’s visit in the last episode. :)

It also seems like (at least to me) that the writer/s are broadening the characters ......a little....of his colleagues so that they are simply not foils from one episode to the next.

I especially like the fact that the show is retaining its backbone with the perplexing patient case/s intermixed with clinic visits but adds more spice to the mix with things like his parent’s visit in the last episode. :)

It also seems like (at least to me) that the writer/s are broadening the characters ......a little....of his colleagues so that they are simply not foils from one episode to the next.

Right, and they are being developed somewhat gradually, which keeps it more interesting as we want to learn more about them.

I just hope they don't reveal too much about House and why he is the way he is...part of the fun is wondering what makes this guy tick.

I just hope they don't reveal too much about House and why he is the way he is...part of the fun is wondering what makes this guy tick.

I agree. We will probably find out eventually though.

I just started watching the show this season. It reallly looked like a stupid show so I never gave it a chance.

All I have to say is that i'm eating crow now, and wished I watched when it first started.

Season one is on DVD...

Season one is on DVD...

Nah, i'll pass. With HD-DVD right around the corner, I don't buy any DVD's now.

They have this service...where you don't have to buy the discs...but you can watch them and give them back when you're done, for a nominal fee! Maybe somebody has a link? ;) :rolleyes:

I actually preferred season one (especially the episode "Three Stories"), it's worth a look.

I assume you are talking about NetFlix scottro, there are a few places doing the same thing now from what I hear, like Wal Mart and I think even Blockbuster.

:D

Yeah 1st season was top notch. Not really a bad episode in the bunch and that Three Stories episode is one of the best of any show and did actually win for best writing in a TV show.

I love this show. Another good episode.

Paul

Don't give it away! Still an hour to go before it is on here on the west coast!

:)

Maybe this is the thread to ask in:

I watch the show every Tuesday night. Tonight, because of the Hawkeyes basketball game...it was delayed until after 10pm. House AND Bones were not shown in HD! Just like last night with Prison Break....usually in HD but not when delayed. Why would this be? Does it sound like a local issue?

Don't give it away! Still an hour to go before it is on here on the west coast!

:)

Well, get out of this thread until it airs then. You know people who have seen it are going to talk about it.

My favorite thing - "This is just diagnostic, it only last about 5 or 6 minutes."

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My favorite thing - "This is just diagnostic, it only last about 5 or 6 minutes."

Boom!

"Sometimes less".



:D

Maybe this is the thread to ask in:

I watch the show every Tuesday night. Tonight, because of the Hawkeyes basketball game...it was delayed until after 10pm. House AND Bones were not shown in HD! Just like last night with Prison Break....usually in HD but not when delayed. Why would this be? Does it sound like a local issue?

Yes, your local station does not have a way to delay the HD feed.

1. "Bones" was in HDTV with DD5.1 on FOX Detroit until about 8:45 EST ... they then switched to SDTV to display Tornado Watch Graphics. "Bones" was in HDTV for the entire show on Global HD (Bell ExpressVu simsubbed this program from FOX Boston).

2. "House" I believe was in SDTV on FOX Detroit for the entire show even when they were not showing the Tornado Watch Graphic. However, it was in HDTV with DD5.1 on CTV HD (again a simsub by Global HD).

I guess these local stations do not yet have the graphical hardware that would enable them to superimpose graphics on HDTV ... which kinda sucks!

FOX BOSTON via Bell ExpressVu and FOX DETROIT via Star Choice.

Bell ExpressVU simsubs all US programming that is simultaneously shown on a Canadian Station ... however there seems to be no drop in quality for the HD picture or DD5.1 sound. So far there has been no simsubbing by Star Choice.

Boom!

"Sometimes less".



:D

Cleanup on Aisle Three. LMAO.

Cleanup on Aisle Three. LMAO.

LOL!

Great episode, but man is House getting a little evil! As predicted I'm really tired of Sela Ward. Make it stop. As for Cameron, I wanted her to be the leak. Would have been interesting to see what happened then.

Cleanup on Aisle Three. LMAO.
One of the top 3 personal favorite comments from him from this season...

Anybody notice that after he told Jeff that he had healed them he starts talking about how he should be all worshipful and whatever. Notice that after Jeff collapses House says casually "This is why I created nurses." I was like lol.

I really enjoyed House's interactions with Stacy's husband. I was glad to see Sela Ward again as well.

“I have a new theory….the drooling is another competitive edge.” :D

Wow! Tonight's episode was really good. How hot did Cameron look tonight?

Also, did anyone else notice the address of House's place?

Still 45 minutes before I get to see it here on the west coast. Glad to hear you liked the episode though. And Cameron seems to be getting hotter by the episode.

Through the miracle of HD, I was able to see that the green calendar thingy in the ex-wife Stacy's house has a date of 1975 on it. Is that supposed to mean something?

I pity the fool that isn't watching House.

Also, did anyone else notice the address of House's place?

Yes, all of the Holmes on that block had oval addresses.

So, for those people that like to watch Bones before House, was it just in my neck of the woods where the OTA signal dropped about 4 minutes from the end of the show? I was just waiting for House, so it didn't matter to me.

One thing I noticed because I was watching HD was that in the last scene with Stacy(Sela Ward) and House, they seemed to have the camera's focus point either before or after the faces, so that they were not in focus completly. SD signals this would probably never be noticed, but in HD, I saw it. Maybe they are doing the "Peggy Sue Got Married" camera softening tricks they used for Kathleen Turner for the scenes where they wanted her to look younger and eliminate wrinkles and such?

Also, I REALLY didn't expect the Dr. Cameron and Chase scene, since I didn't think Cameron would have ever taken the drugs. That is a new development. Oh, and what was the little thing that Chase found on his lip at the end of the show when he was looking in the mirror?

Not as many catch phrases this time around, but it was a good episode. I was wondering how the rat cage stayed on the bike for the trip back to the hospital, but then I figured that I have seen people with golf clubs on the back of a motorcycle before.

I'm not a doctor (though I play one on message boards?), but I'd guess it'd be a herpes sore. Especially since he made the comment early along the lines of "I'm not stupid" when asked about safe sex.

Ok, House fans, I could use some help please. My idiotic affiliate was late coming back from the commercial break right after the patient's father revelead that his son "killed my wife". I heard later on that she had killed herself. Could someone here please illuminate me some on the details as to why the father was so mad at his son? Thank you very much.

If his son had protected sex his would not have gotten AIDS, and he could have been a donor for his mom and saved her life. At least thats the way I understood it.

Best lines:

"Where are you? "

"At your girlfriends house."

And the follow up when he starts whispering: "I'm in the closet. Your girlfriends other boyfriend showed up!"

:D

Through the miracle of HD, I was able to see that the green calendar thingy in the ex-wife Stacy's house has a date of 1975 on it. Is that supposed to mean something?

The Lost thread is located below. :)

Another candidate for best line:

"Let go of my cane before it becomes your new boyfriend."

Also, I REALLY didn't expect the Dr. Cameron and Chase scene, since I didn't think Cameron would have ever taken the drugs. That is a new development.

Yes me too. I don't really think it matched the character (Cameron) to pursue this behavior. I really hope they do not extend this story line. I'm getting a bit tired of all TV programs revolving around sex. This show has enough going on that it doesn't really need to become Grey's Anatomy.

Another candidate for best line:

"Let go of my cane before it becomes your new boyfriend."

Yeah, my eyes were like :eek:

Yes me too. I don't really think it matched the character (Cameron) to pursue this behavior. I really hope they do not extend this story line. I'm getting a bit tired of all TV programs revolving around sex. This show has enough going on that it doesn't really need to become Grey's Anatomy.

She let the aids guy get to her. The thought of doing what made her happy as opposed to everyone else sounded good, especially if she really did get aids. I think it was a very believable reaction to the situation for someone as controlled as she is.

But, as she told the guy, it was all false. The drugs didn't do anything to make her free. All they did was cause more complications in her life. A good lesson well learned.

BTW - I think she bit Chase's lip and he is concerned about aids also. I don't think herpes would show up the next day.

She let the aids guy get to her. The thought of doing what made her happy as opposed to everyone else sounded good, especially if she really did get aids. I think it was a very believable reaction to the situation for someone as controlled as she is.

But, as she told the guy, it was all false. The drugs didn't do anything to make her free. All they did was cause more complications in her life. A good lesson well learned.

BTW - I think she bit Chase's lip and he is concerned about aids also. I don't think herpes wouldn't show up the next day.

yup, he'd better pray the sex was worth it.

Stupid. Doesn't fit the Cameron character at all. I hate when TV writers pull this ****. I think it's time to do an episode with the secondary focus on Foreman. (House being the primary focus, of course) Getting sick of Cameron and Chase, whether together or not.

I was wondering how the rat cage stayed on the bike for the trip back to the hospital, but then I figured that I have seen people with golf clubs on the back of a motorcycle before.
You should have seen this dude that use to race desert in District 37 with his dog holding onto some fabric attached to the gas tank of his Husky with toenails that must have been like claws!!.......the dog’s toenails, of course. :eek:

I’m not sure but, I think they may have even shown him (and the dog) in the movie On Any Sunday by Bruce Brown. If you haven’t seen it, I highly recommend you renting the video/DVD if you get a chance.

In regards to the rat, I think that House is way over-treating him and that the rat’s head-tilt was just the rat mimicking House as if to say…..
“WTF are you looking at ? I’m not the one who walks funny!”

I liked this past episode as the writer’s are slowing developing the other characters and have even introduced a new species!

Rob…."At your girlfriends house." –LOL for me too! :D

Rob…."At your girlfriends house." –LOL for me too!

You could probably do a whole thread on his "best" one-liners. Only a character as fully conceived and acted as House could, in current culture, get away with a line directed at Omar Epps such as: "Dr. Mandingo, report to the Plantation".

You could probably do a whole thread on his "best" one-liners. Only a character as fully conceived and acted as House could, in current culture, get away with a line directed at Omar Epps such as: "Dr. Mandingo, report to the Plantation".

Agreed!

You could probably do a whole thread on his "best" one-liners. Only a character as fully conceived and acted as House could, in current culture, get away with a line directed at Omar Epps such as: "Dr. Mandingo, report to the Plantation".
Most amazing one-liner by House?.......

After telling an *up-tight* female patient in the clinic to take some oral medication for her illness................she gives him this cold look......so he responds......

something like......

"Let me guess, you don't swallow." :eek:

Lol!

You could probably do a whole thread on his "best" one-liners. Only a character as fully conceived and acted as House could, in current culture, get away with a line directed at Omar Epps such as: "Dr. Mandingo, report to the Plantation".
I forget, did that once come before or after Foreman called him "massa"?