You know, I think the show deserves better than this. It should be the kind of show that doesn't need to fall back on shock value to hook viewers. If I wanted that I'd watch CSI.

To me a good show would be something I'd be willing to watch over again sometime in the future, on DVD or HD DVD. I'd never knowingly watch an episode like this again.

worst ep ever. finale 'cliffhanger' was tired. obviously house survives. a much better cliffhanger would have been if he was actually not hallucinating, and killed his patient on the table.Sometimes, I think you just like to be contrary.

Your "cliffhanger" would result in the end of the show, as House would lose his medical license and wind up in prison or the loony bin. How does that qualify as "better?"

worst ep ever. finale 'cliffhanger' was tired. obviously house survives. a much better cliffhanger would have been if he was actually not hallucinating, and killed his patient on the table.
Never know, they might call it Cameron or Foreman next season :p

But this was more House examining his life and his team members than anything. It also set up part of next season because House wants to do the coma thing to try and fix his leg which will obviously have unfortunate side effects.

How would it have been better if he really killed the patient? Like another person said, that would have ended House's career.

I liked it. Like someone else said, I was continually trying to guess at what scenes were real and which were hallucinations.

As far as the grotesque scenes, I think those should have been hints telling us they were hallucinations.

sorry, tonight's episode felt like a rehash of "fight club"... much like that "lost" episode with hurley this season. yes there was some good insight into House's psyche, but i wasnt impressed or grossed out, i was bored. after the Foreman 2 night sensation, i was expecting more. i had very high expectations for the finale. i was expecting the couch grabbing on the edge feeling i had those two nights. i didnt get that. i feel shortchanged.

eewww

ER did the eye thing slightly differently in a recent season. Good stuff, I'll admit I was peaking through my fingers a few times this episode. A few scenes were just outrageously disgusting. House feeling up Cameron via robotic arms was downright hot though.

<----loved it.

I had mixed feelings about the episode. The fact that the whole show was a hallucination was interesting, but I think it would have been better if it were drug induced rather than from being shot. I agree that the shooting is not much of a cliffhanger because we know House will live. The eye popping and robot gutting seemed gratuitous-like they were trying too hard to out-do the Foreman 2 parter.

House feeling up Cameron via robotic arms was downright hot though.

<----loved it.

haha. Yeah that was cool.

A generally entertaining episode, but half way through I said to my girlfriend, "If this all ends up being a dream, that's going to suck." And it did. There were some very obvious contradictions between what the shooter said at the beginning and what he said during the dream that made it apparent it was all a dream. (I was a patient./My wife was a patient. He didn't know who House was./House convinced him to reveal an affair and the guy wouldn't have ever asked his name? I doubt it.) But, I wasn't completely sure it was a dream until the exciting finish (the bullet dropping).

I agree it's a silly cliffhanger. We know House survives. I really think all the eipsodes after the Foreman ones were a bit subpar compared to the rest of the season. Still love the show though and can't wait for its return!

House convinced him to reveal an affair and the guy wouldn't have ever asked his name? I doubt it.) But, I wasn't completely sure it was a dream until the exciting finish (the bullet dropping).


I was a little confused about the bullet dropping.

I thought they did a great job of making everything feel slightly off. Everything was believeable but you had a sense that so many events and situations were a little too unlikely. I thought it was great that he asked for Ketamine at the end, as well.

Sure it's an old story, but this show does it so much better.

I agree it's a silly cliffhanger. We know House survives.

Several have made this comment and it surprises me a bit. Whether House survives is certainly not in question, nor was it the intended cliffhanger IMO. The real cliffhanger was the insight into the potential good/bad of the drug treatment used in the dream and the fact that House comes to the conclusion that he wants to try it. His last words in the "real" world ending scene were to instruct Cuddy he wanted that drug/treatment in his surgery. My take on the cliffhanger is how the real treatment will go and how House will be with or without his normal leg-pain. His chronic pain is part and parcel of his personality (and that of the show) - so this potential to relieve it could imply a change of dynamic. Doubtful though, since it's his curmudgeonly personality that drives the show.

Several have made this comment and it surprises me a bit. Whether House survives is certainly not in question, nor was it the intended cliffhanger IMO. The real cliffhanger was the insight into the potential good/bad of the drug treatment used in the dream and the fact that House comes to the conclusion that he wants to try it. His last words in the "real" world ending scene were to instruct Cuddy he wanted that drug/treatment in his surgery. My take on the cliffhanger is how the real treatment will go and how House will be with or without his normal leg-pain. His chronic pain is part and parcel of his personality (and that of the show) - so this potential to relieve it could imply a change of dynamic. Doubtful though, since it's his curmudgeonly personality that drives the show.

Well said.

A great episode, that favorably compares to The Sopranos' Kevin Finnerety episodes. It would seem the House's entire "dream" took place in the few moments after he was shot until he arrived in the emergency room. The look into House's subconscience told a lot about the character..

He does have sexual fantasies of Cameron
House's ex-wife caused his leg pain, while the other potential woman in his life, Cuddy, was the one who cured him.
House believes that male/female relationships are solely physical. 9's marrying 9's. Does House see himself as inadequate in the looks department after his injury?
The "shooter" in the bed next to him was clearly his alter-ego.

I'm sure there is more I a missing right now, but I really enjoyed this episode. I told a co-worker that I think the writing for House is the medical equivalent to the original Star Trek. Great characters, writing, humor, and science all explored in a drama. I will watch 24 religously, but I come away from an hour of House more fulfilled.

I told a co-worker that I think the writing for House is the medical equivalent to the original Star Trek.

I am a fan of original Trek, but I consider this an insult to the writing on House! :)

And the dream episode/real/not real stuff is getting tired. The Soprano's has gone to it too many times, and I was disappointed to see House fall into it - even if the episode was interesting and entertaining. It just left me flat at the end.

I look forward to seeing how the events of the dream episode compare to the first episode of next season. Do we get to find out what really happened to the guy with the tongue. Did the shooter escape?

Such a long wait to discover the answers.

Several have made this comment and it surprises me a bit. Whether House survives is certainly not in question, nor was it the intended cliffhanger IMO. The real cliffhanger was the insight into the potential good/bad of the drug treatment used in the dream and the fact that House comes to the conclusion that he wants to try it. His last words in the "real" world ending scene were to instruct Cuddy he wanted that drug/treatment in his surgery. My take on the cliffhanger is how the real treatment will go and how House will be with or without his normal leg-pain. His chronic pain is part and parcel of his personality (and that of the show) - so this potential to relieve it could imply a change of dynamic. Doubtful though, since it's his curmudgeonly personality that drives the show.
I may have mis-interpreted, but when House asked for the Ketamine I thought he was saying he did not want the experimental treatment, I assumed Ketamine is some sort of anaesthetic treatment that would have prevented the experimental procedure from happening.

I'd have to watch it again, but when he was hallucinating he asked why the Ketamine level was so low during his surgery and that's when Cuddy mentioned the experimental treatment.

I may have mis-interpreted, but when House asked for the Ketamine I thought he was saying he did not want the experimental treatment, I assumed Ketamine is some sort of anaesthetic treatment that would have prevented the experimental procedure from happening.

I'd have to watch it again, but when he was hallucinating he asked why the Ketamine level was so low during his surgery and that's when Cuddy mentioned the experimental treatment.
Actually, it was just the opposite. He noticed that the levels of normal anaesthesia were low and that Ketamine had been used, which he saw as an anomaly. He knew the Ketamine induced coma and that's why he was so upset. It was then that Cutty talked about the experimental treatment. At least that's the way I remember it.

Several have made this comment and it surprises me a bit. Whether House survives is certainly not in question, nor was it the intended cliffhanger IMO. The real cliffhanger was the insight into the potential good/bad of the drug treatment used in the dream and the fact that House comes to the conclusion that he wants to try it. His last words in the "real" world ending scene were to instruct Cuddy he wanted that drug/treatment in his surgery. My take on the cliffhanger is how the real treatment will go and how House will be with or without his normal leg-pain. His chronic pain is part and parcel of his personality (and that of the show) - so this potential to relieve it could imply a change of dynamic. Doubtful though, since it's his curmudgeonly personality that drives the show.
EXACTLY! :)

My favorite episode was when House was lying in the SICU or recovery room? with the shooter adjacent to him…………and House grabs his trusty cane and whacks the side of the guy’s gurney and says something like………..”Wake up.”

That left me nearly rolling on the floor with laughter. :D

Also, was it just me thinking this or did it appear that Cameron was approaching a robotically induced orgasm ?

Several have made this comment and it surprises me a bit. Whether House survives is certainly not in question, nor was it the intended cliffhanger IMO. The real cliffhanger was the insight into the potential good/bad of the drug treatment used in the dream and the fact that House comes to the conclusion that he wants to try it. His last words in the "real" world ending scene were to instruct Cuddy he wanted that drug/treatment in his surgery. My take on the cliffhanger is how the real treatment will go and how House will be with or without his normal leg-pain. His chronic pain is part and parcel of his personality (and that of the show) - so this potential to relieve it could imply a change of dynamic. Doubtful though, since it's his curmudgeonly personality that drives the show.
Indeed. It showed that he might lose some mental function but the pain in his leg will go away. And the fact that it has a 50% chance of working is also part of that. The fact he decided to go through with it despite what he saw in his dream is the cliffhanger. Since Cuddy will probably go through with it, we then get to see the consequences.

PM

I think my favorite scene was when House turned off the morphine drip on the shooter and as House returns to his bed you hear progressively louder screams from the shooter.

My favorite episode was when House was lying in the SICU or recovery room? with the shooter adjacent to him…………and House grabs his trusty cane and whacks the side of the guy’s gurney and says something like………..”Wake up.”

That left me nearly rolling on the floor with laughter. :D

Also, was it just me thinking this or did it appear that Cameron was approaching a robotically induced orgasm ?
She did seem to be liking being stripped and stroked by a robot. :D

So, does house consider he and Cameron equal in numbers? I wouldn't think so, maybe that's why he has never persued anything with her? If she would be dropping by several numbers, she would eventually leave him anyway.... And then what number would he consider Stacy to be?

Actually, it was just the opposite. He noticed that the levels of normal anaesthesia were low and that Ketamine had been used, which he saw as an anomaly. He knew the Ketamine induced coma and that's why he was so upset. It was then that Cutty talked about the experimental treatment. At least that's the way I remember it.
You're probably right, makes more sense anyways. :)

For me this was one of the worst episodes of House I have seen. The show is too high of quality to go in that gross direction.

Funny coincidence: just about a week ago my wife and I saw "Stay" on PPV, which I liked a lot, especially in retrospect, but she didn't.

About two-thirds of the way through last night's episode I said to her "you know, this reminds me a lot of that 'Stay' movie we saw". Of course it's also a lot like the Finnerty episode on the Sopranos and I'm sure a lot of others, but when House started writing equations on the glass wall I just knew it was all an hallucination right in the few moments before he would have died if he wasn't the star of the show. :)

I tried to get my niece to watch House; I told her how funny it could be but she retorted that she didn't like to spend her evenings being grossed out. Last night I started realizing what she meant. Too much.

=NLK=

Funny coincidence: just about a week ago my wife and I saw "Stay" on PPV, which I liked a lot, especially in retrospect, but she didn't.

About two-thirds of the way through last night's episode I said to her "you know, this reminds me a lot of that 'Stay' movie we saw". Of course it's also a lot like the Finnerty episode on the Sopranos and I'm sure a lot of others, but when House started writing equations on the glass wall I just knew it was all an hallucination right in the few moments before he would have died if he wasn't the star of the show. :)

I tried to get my niece to watch House; I told her how funny it could be but she retorted that she didn't like to spend her evenings being grossed out. Last night I started realizing what she meant. Too much.

=NLK=
Like when big tongue is in the bathroom and his sack explodes.. ouch.....

The remarkable Dr. House

By Hal Boedeker Orlando Sentinel Television Critic in the Sentinel’s TV blog May 24, 2006

Wasn't "House" sensational Tuesday night? For its season finale, the Fox medical drama took a far-fetched premise and turned it into a gripping, original hour.

If "American Idol" fans stuck around, they witnessed Hugh Laurie (left) giving a remarkable performance as the title character, a brilliant but impossible physician. The episode put the formdiable Dr. House in a vulnerable position. After being shot twice, House started experiencing hallucinations. The viewer didn't know where those visions started and stopped. It was an episode that deserved repeating viewings. How often can you say that?

Even so, I had a hard time believing the episode's starting point. A vengeful husband (played by Elias Koteas) shot House. Then the show put the shooter in the bed next to House in the intensive-care unit. Yeah, sure, that would happen.

House started having deep conversations with the shooter. The assailant wondered whether House cared about living or dying.

"I care because I live," House said. "I can't care if I'm dead."

House and his team struggled to figure out how to treat a man with a mysterious infection. In memorable scenes, House demonstrated cutting-edge medical equipment on Dr. Allison Cameron (Jennifer Morrison), sought answers from Dr. Lisa Cuddy (Lisa Edelstein) and punched out Dr. James Wilson (Robert Sean Leonard). But you could never be sure if all this was really happening or just in House's head.

David Shore, the show's creator, wrote and directed the exceptional hour. He also delivered a first-rate cliffhanger: What had we just witnessed?

The growth of "House" into a ratings powerhouse is one of the happiest developments this season. Fox will rerun this season's episodes back to back on Tuesdays so viewers can catch up with this medical drama. Laurie has to be considered the front-runner for the Emmy -- hey, he should have won last year. Isn't it wonderful when great things happen to great shows?

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2006/05/the_remarkable_.html

^ nice!

Odd that someone else brought up Stay, since it's a fairly little known film. Personally, we loved it, along with this episode of House. For those that are interested, here's the thread for the movie:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=668506

I concur about a certain amount of gross factor for this week, but all the other episodes haven't bothered me a bit. I actually like seeing the operations, but that's just me being fascinated with that sort of thing. The gf and I got to talking about the graphic nature of this episode and we agreed that it was intentional, though not for plain shock value. We think it is a deliberate attempt to grasp the surreal state of a dream or near-death experience and to convey to the audience that intangible sense of "something's not quite right here" through the images.

In contrast, as much as was said about the baby episode and the rubber doll that was used, we thought that this was deliberate as well. To have shot those scenes with a real (or very-real looking) baby would have been too much for perhaps some viewers to handle, not based upon the initial reaction, but to the lingering effects of such a realist approach in regard to our everyday lives as an audience in whole.

Personally, we feel that any emotional connectivity (or lack of) is a carefully thought out process done by the writers of House and that they have achieved levels of humor, futility, realism, dispair, and inspiration that creates an equalibrium unsurpassed by any other show.

Pick a favorite episode? How about all of them? :)

House should really evaluate the hospital he works at. Twice they have proceeded with treatment on him that he didn't authorize. Once when they killed his leg, and now this attempt to fix it.

House should really evaluate the hospital he works at. Twice they have proceeded with treatment on him that he didn't authorize. Once when they killed his leg, and now this attempt to fix it.

You're kidding me, right?

Sounds like someone missed the fact that this was all in his head.

Sounds like someone missed the fact that this was all in his head.

And that the first time Stacy had the right to make the call, since he was in an induced coma.

I haven't seen Stay but I know that this episode was VERY similar to the movie Jacob's Ladder. Sorry if this has been mentioned already.

Odd that someone else brought up Stay, since it's a fairly little known film. Personally, we loved it, along with this episode of House. For those that are interested, here's the thread for the movie:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=668506

I concur about a certain amount of gross factor for this week, but all the other episodes haven't bothered me a bit. I actually like seeing the operations, but that's just me being fascinated with that sort of thing. The gf and I got to talking about the graphic nature of this episode and we agreed that it was intentional, though not for plain shock value. We think it is a deliberate attempt to grasp the surreal state of a dream or near-death experience and to convey to the audience that intangible sense of "something's not quite right here" through the images.

In contrast, as much as was said about the baby episode and the rubber doll that was used, we thought that this was deliberate as well. To have shot those scenes with a real (or very-real looking) baby would have been too much for perhaps some viewers to handle, not based upon the initial reaction, but to the lingering effects of such a realist approach in regard to our everyday lives as an audience in whole.

Personally, we feel that any emotional connectivity (or lack of) is a carefully thought out process done by the writers of House and that they have achieved levels of humor, futility, realism, dispair, and inspiration that creates an equalibrium unsurpassed by any other show.

Pick a favorite episode? How about all of them? :)

My favorite episode was when House was lying in the SICU or recovery room? with the shooter adjacent to him…………and House grabs his trusty cane and whacks the side of the guy’s gurney and says something like………..”Wake up.” That left me nearly rolling on the floor with laughter. :D
That broke me up too!! And House (we thought) pumping up his own morphine and constantly messing with the shoters meds/instructions. Good stuff!

About half way through the episode I kept thinking "Jacob's Ladder". After that, everything kind of fell into place.

And that the first time Stacy had the right to make the call, since he was in an induced coma.

While, legally that is true, she did go against what he wanted. I actually watched that episode right before the season fanale so it is fresh in my mind. Stacy knew that he didn't want that surgery and she went behind his back to do it.

While, legally that is true, she did go against what he wanted. I actually watched that episode right before the season fanale so it is fresh in my mind. Stacy knew that he didn't want that surgery and she went behind his back to do it.
So, you better seriously think about your Durable Power of Attorney, eh? If your wife won't back you up on your convictions, maybe dad will.

You're probably right, makes more sense anyways. :)

He's right, House commented on the low levels of anesthesia, discovered that they used ketamine on him instead, and was worried about its neurological effects. Ketamine, as commented in the show, was used experimentally to deal with chronic pain, and that's what House's hallucinations were pretty much about. Whether House could deal with having a normal leg.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/30/health/30pain.html discuses the use of ketamine to treat severe pain.

Interesting article.

Just an FYI that Hugh Laurie will be on Inside the Actor's Studio @8pm on Bravo tonight.

Thanks for the heads up!

Just an FYI that Hugh Laurie will be on Inside the Actor's Studio @8pm on Bravo tonight.

Excellent!

yes thanks for the heads up. Hugh is a brilliant actor.

Missed it, since it came on at 8pm Eastern time, and I am West coast. Didn't make it home in time. Maybe they will re-broadcast?

Missed it, since it came on at 8pm Eastern time, and I am West coast. Didn't make it home in time. Maybe they will re-broadcast?
I believe it's on a few more times. Check the schedules toward the end of the week.

House season premiere comes on @8pm tonight! Is this the de facto 3rd season thread?

Finally the summer slump is over!

I wish they showed more of the recovery

eppy was pretty good. as the poster above stated, i wished they showed house during the recovery phase after he was shot.

I'm west coast...hasn't aired yet...I wonder if House will be any less cranky lol...I'm looking forward to it.

I wish they showed more of the recovery

I missed the 1st half entirely {forgot to record it}; 2nd half held up well.
Cuddy doubting but trusting House. Wilson setting her straight.
And then the final scene....

There is lots of plot fodder for this season.

They left the whole cliffhanger about "oh how the hell does he recover"... I'm sure there will be a mis-season flashback.

Looking forward to this on the west coast. Nice to have House back so early for the fall season!

I started a new thread for Season 3, but it looks like this one is back, so I couldn't let all this go to waste.

Season 3 of House, MD

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/spyderswebphotos/7bc7ca0c.jpg

It's almost here! With about 2 weeks until the opener of Season 3, I figured it's time to start some discussion about what I consider the best show on TV. Will House's surgery be a success? What will happen with Cuddy and her baby quest? Will Cameron ever get to be with House? All specualtions, comments, thoughts, etc., are welcome.

I've posted some links for all House fans to enjoy below.


House Intro (can't get enough of this tune):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weiQbuEucDM

Alternative, original and rare House intro (glad they changed!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wttopz0cufs

MadTV spoof of House:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcQsD0HU0SY

A very well-done video edit of Wilson, the man with the "superhero" pose (after you watch, type in "Stephen Lynch"...absolutely the most hilarious songs!):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnLpgHLZ8ZU

One of my top 5 favorite scenes ever (I still laugh every time I see it):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Atskc15g07E

And another:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzdjYWMS6bI

For our Spanish speaking friends:

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=search_videos&search_sort=video_date_uploaded&search_query=house%2C+md+spanish

House Ducktales Remix (Dutch, pretty funny):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0FWM8g8IQo

A quickie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U986ZZQsHCA&mode=related&search=

Cuddy's famous shot (who else thinks she's hot?):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL8i-58WyAY&mode=related&search=

Well, that should be enough to whet your appetite for a while. More to come.

Here's to House, MD Season 3!

I totally enjoyed the first episode, it was everythign i expected. Having myself gotten over a very painful physical condition, i can totally relate to what he was going through in his turmoil and doubt as he faced his reality without pain with the paranoia of the pain returning. A great start to the new season. Cameron got even hotter.

I was mildly disappointed. Good, but not great episode. I want House's leg hurting, and I want it hurting now! :)

I was mildly disappointed. Good, but not great episode. I want House's leg hurting, and I want it hurting now! :)

As long as he is taking drugs :) His addiction is what defined his character (pain or no pain).

I also thought "good, not great". I kept getting the feeling his leg problem was going to return at any moment. I hope they make it decisive one way or the other as the season goes on.

All this better NOT be a Ketamine induced hallucination. All the previews mentioned something about things are not what you think they are...

Cuddy in a teddy in HD ... .mmmm....

As long as he is taking drugs :) His addiction is what defined his character (pain or no pain).

I disagree. I think it hurts House's likability as a character if he is a dope addict without pain, but maybe that's just me. They are tweaking the character and formula a bit, which is fine, but I want angry, bitter, pain stricken House back at the end of this please. :)

After not watching TV for the summer, my wife and I really enjoyed House last night.
I always enjoy multi story arc's in a one hour TV show format because the story development is much more complex. I'm sure the recovery backstory will be played out over the upcoming season. Odd ending with the Vicodin script, why can't House write his own script for the meds?(I only started watching House last season, did I miss something there?).
Next weeks episode looks interesting too...
And oh yeah....... Cameron does look really hot!!! :D

Missed this weeks show due to sitting in a plane on the ground with a low priority trouble light. (as if there is such a thing as a low priority trouble light).

In any case, does anyone know if this week's episode will be replayed before the reruns?

Odd ending with the Vicodin script, why can't House write his own script for the meds?(I only started watching House last season, did I miss something there?).
Next weeks episode looks interesting too...
And oh yeah....... Cameron does look really hot!!! :D

In most (all?) states you can't prescribe narcotics (or anything?) for yourself, so it had to be on Wilson's pad.

And I'm not sure...I think I liked the reddish hair better...

And oh yeah....... Cameron does look really hot!!! :D
Personally, I liked last year's look better, though I can't put my finger on what's changed without seeing a previous episode. Maybe it had something to do with House's remark to her about being mistaken for a 14-year-old boy. :p

JimP: Fox has a streaming site, thats like ABC's kind of, and they probably might put house up there, so check there, thats your best shot:

http://www.fox.com/streaming/

anyone notice the excellent PQ this year? i was most impressed

yes i did, it was an excellent presentation but I had a couple of drop outs of both video and audio throughout the hour, anyone else get that?

anyone notice the excellent PQ this year? i was most impressed

Yep, the opening scene looked really good (close-ups on the guys face).

Ou8thisSN,

Thanks for the link.

I guess House did OK last night:

The third-season premiere of drama House exploded out of the gate, lifting Fox head-and-shoulders above the competition on this late summer Tuesday. House kicked-off with a 13.3/21 in the overnights, 19.41 million viewers and a 7.1/20 among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m. Comparatively, that beat the competing ABC, CBS and NBC combined in the overnights and total viewers (while tying the three among adults 18-49).

There was a scene last night where the team is sitting in what looks like a dark hallway going over notes. Is it me or does it seem like all shows in HD LOVE the dark. Look at CSI and many others. I'm sorry but I just do not believe they would prefer the dark over a well lit room in real life. Is it maybe for the same reason they like to film night scenes with wet roads? Even in cities that almost never get rain.

Glad to see House back!

Overnights in the 18-49 Demo
Full house for Fox's returning 'House'
By Toni Fitzgerald MediaLifeMagazine.com staff writer Sep 6, 2006

“House” lost his limp but not his audience. The third-season premiere of the hot Fox drama was the highest-rated show on broadcast since May, and just as important to the network, it led to big ratings for new lead-out “Standoff.”

“House” averaged a 7.1 adults 18-49 rating, according to Nielsen overnights, up 25 percent from last season’s 5.7 premiere.

It was down quite a bit from last May’s finale, which drew a 10.3, but that was to be expected. The finale aired after part one of the season finale of TV’s biggest hit, “American Idol.” Last night’s debut, in which the grumpy doctor lost the limp that had plagued him for years, showed that “House” will still be a top 10 show even without “Idol.”

“House” drew 19.4 million total viewers, made more impressive by the fact that the fall season hasn’t started yet. Some viewers may not even know that “House” had premiered.

That also boosted lead-out “Standoff,” the new show about hostage negotiators. “Standoff” became Fox’s highest-rated drama premiere this year with a 4.7 average. Though it lost about a third of its lead in, it fared much better than “Vanished” and “Justice,” which debuted over the past two weeks.

“Standoff” did dip 10 percent from start to finish but both Fox shows were first in their timeslot.

Fox was No. 1 for the night with a 5.9 rating and 16 share in 18-49s, followed by CBS at 3.1/8, ABC at 2.3/6, NBC at 2.2/6, Univision at 2.0/5 and WB at 0.6/2.

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/artman/publish/printer_7102.asp

Personally, I liked last year's look better, though I can't put my finger on what's changed without seeing a previous episode. Maybe it had something to do with House's remark to her about being mistaken for a 14-year-old boy. :p
Her hair has changed, color and style, and I too liked last year's look better as well.

Color was fine, but that "do" is hideous. She went from downright hot to just average.

Yes, I saw a few drop outs also.

There was a scene last night where the team is sitting in what looks like a dark hallway going over notes. Is it me or does it seem like all shows in HD LOVE the dark. Look at CSI and many others. I'm sorry but I just do not believe they would prefer the dark over a well lit room in real life. Is it maybe for the same reason they like to film night scenes with wet roads? Even in cities that almost never get rain.

Glad to see House back!

I think that scene was dark to convey that they were working well into the night to carry out House's assignment.

anyone notice the excellent PQ this year? i was most impressed
First House ep I ever watched it was fun... but I did think (barring acouple drops) that the PQ was most excellent I am TWC with SA8300 over HDMI and NEC Panel, impressee with FOX production...The wife and I are watching more and more HD...can't help it...

Question in regards to the ending -
Is HOUSE lucky as Wilson says ...........or just damn unbelievable good !

Welcome back Dr. House !

I liked the Cuddy bedroom window scene but, I think that the writers could have made it even funnier if they had let House quip for awhile until his brilliant deduction.

He is lucky that he is unbelievably good.

Anyone else notice that House made no remarks as to Cuddy's breasts? If ever there were an opportune time to do it, that would have been it. A sign of change?

glad ya'll liked house but my blub went out lol and i have not had hdtv in over a week. lol. i hope the new one will be in tomorrow where i can watch. side note rca wanted $714 for a new bulb (i paid $790 for the 50" dlp TV) they out of their minds. anyway got one for $170 off ebay.

I'm glad they're keeping that chick around for atlest another episode :D

Yeah...red is now my fave color. :eek: ;)

Like the way she took that skin biopsy. :)

That's the girl from Surface.

Great episode, and while it was obvious who "killed" the patient, I loved the tender scene between House and Cameron.

Looking foreward to next week!

There was nothing in it saying that he specifically killed the guy, he just didn't say if he did or not. It's up to each person to form an opinion on if House did it or not.

Interesting storyline with the stalker/hottie and House. This will be a different twist to focus on instead of just the medical stuff.

BTW, any screen captures from last night's episode I can host on my web site?

BTW, any screen captures from last night's episode I can host on my web site?

Request? :D

If you want anything specific let me know. Otherwise I made a few just for ya.

And I didnt notice until I went back to make screencaps... but take a look at what the calendar says.. :eek:

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There was nothing in it saying that he specifically killed the guy, he just didn't say if he did or not. It's up to each person to form an opinion on if House did it or not.

You must have missed the end. Cameron did it.

You must have missed the end. Cameron did it.I did not think she had it in her....

You must have missed the end. Cameron did it.

Perfect ending.

Recall earlier when she "took" the skin biopsy how the patient said "good for you"! Cameron's character development is quite good still.

Only question is did she kill him out of sympathy (mercy killing), or hatred (murder). ;)

Only question is did she kill him out of sympathy (mercy killing), or hatred (murder). ;)

Probably a little of sympathy and a lot out of hatred. She really went off on him after reading about his 1970's experiments with children and his absolute lack of remorse for what he had done. Good episode for Cameron.

Probably a little of sympathy and a lot out of hatred. She really went off on him after reading about his 1970's experiments with children and his absolute lack of remorse for what he had done. Good episode for Cameron.

I don't think Cameron would hurt a fly out of hatred. Sympathy, yes. Hatred, no. ;)

I would have thought the same thing until I saw her hack that flesh like she was taking a machete to some scrub-brush.

I would have thought the same thing until I saw her hack that flesh like she was taking a machete to some scrub-brush.
LOL,
Great description. :)

I would have thought the same thing until I saw her hack that flesh like she was taking a machete to some scrub-brush.

:D

(From Marc Berman’s Wednesday, September 20, 2006, Programming Insider column at Mediaweek.com )
Primetime Ratings For Tuesday, September 19th

… Over at Fox, and opposite original competition, House stood tall, with a second-place 9.9/15 in the overnights, 13.44 million viewers and a first-place 5.8/16 among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m….

13.44 million viewers...too bad the remainder of the 217.8 million over 18 in the US are missing out on TV's best show. I wonder...what the heck are they watching? :confused:

13.44 million viewers...too bad the remainder of the 217.8 million over 18 in the US are missing out on TV's best show. I wonder...what the heck are they watching? :confused:

Dancing with the Stars

:rolleyes:

Wow, the ending totally went over my head. I thought House killed that older gentleman.

In any case, I deleted the episode because it reminded me of the suffering a loved one in my family went through earlier this year. Funny thing is I know it wasn't real, but my mind made it real and it brought back a lot of bad memories.:(

Linux23,

Sorry to hear about that. You have my sympathy. It's easy to say how you feel about assisted death, but unitl you've seen someone suffer greatly, you'll never know. It's sort of an anomoly that we, as people, will help animals in pain to die, but not each other.

You must have missed the end. Cameron did it.
She did? I'll have to watch it again!

You must have missed the end. Cameron did it.
Well...it was only strongly implied that Cameron did it. Not definitive. House could have been "proud" of her not completely falling apart because of the assisted death.

The more I think about it, the more I believe her would be absolutely incapable of doing it.

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Yah, Ive watched this show since season 1 and it just keeps getting better and better with each episode. Admitedly the medicine is very hard edged, and I am a registered Clinical Lab Scientist saying that, but still the acting is second to none and the writers use of off the whole rare conditions is awsome.

So do we have to wait 6 months for the rated R "House" movie?

Looks like she is not gonna wait 6 months based on the previews....

Well...it was only strongly implied that Cameron did it. Not definitive. House could have been "proud" of her not completely falling apart because of the assisted death.

The more I think about it, the more I believe her would be absolutely incapable of doing it.

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He could also have just been proud of her for getting her medical degree. But it was crystal clear why he was proud. She did it.

Next, people will be saying we don't know for sure that someone's chest cavity was sewn shut after surgery because we didn't actually see it on screen.

He could also have just been proud of her for getting her medical degree. But it was crystal clear why he was proud. She did it.

Next, people will be saying we don't know for sure that someone's chest cavity was sewn shut after surgery because we didn't actually see it on screen.

I agree. I think she did it as well.

He could also have just been proud of her for getting her medical degree. But it was crystal clear why he was proud. She did it.

Next, people will be saying we don't know for sure that someone's chest cavity was sewn shut after surgery because we didn't actually see it on screen.
Much too transparent of a conclusion from the last scene. Out of character for House to delegate something like that once the diagnosis was determined to be terminal. I believe the last scene was intended to imply Cameron's involvement, but allow some ambiguity.

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She's in the chapel, in tears, obviously struggling with her actions...House is proud of her...what ambiguity? She did it...congratulations.

I will not go so far as to say I am 100% certain that Cameron killed the guy. I might say she could have given him the means by which to do it himself (he was in the medical field) OR that she did do it to him herself in his sleep, though. Either way, she would have felt responsible.

As far as House being proud of her, it had absolutely nothing to do with the alleged killing in and of itself. He was proud that she stopped sitting on the fence on the issue and had taken action based upon her beliefs.

Simply getting "off the fence" by getting a skin graft does not sync up with crying in the chapel and House solemnly expressing his pride.

Simply getting "off the fence" by getting a skin graft does not sync up with crying in the chapel and House solemnly expressing his pride.

Helllooooo??? Did you even read my post? I SAID...it's possible she either physically injected the guy OR gave the guy the syringe to inject himself. Simply assuming she physically did it herself is ridiculous, given the ambiguity of the scene. Either way, she stopped sitting on the fence, and that was what made House proud. Had he wanted it done, he would have done it himself. The skin graft has NOTHING to do with it. Sheesh. :rolleyes:

It was a mercy killing. Whether she game him the syringe, injected it herself or did it while asleep or awake doesn't mean a thing.

Perhaps on the basic level, but there's a big difference in pulling the trigger and blowing someone's head off and selling them the gun that they do it to themsleves with. The point is that we don't KNOW exactly what it was that Cameron did, just that she did do something. I think that was what the writers were adamant about showing with the ambiguity in the "pride scene".

I wouldn't be so certain it was a mercy killing either. It could have been a "hate killing", and she was crying because she felt guilty that was the force that drove her to the decision.

She's in the chapel, in tears, obviously struggling with her actions...House is proud of her...what ambiguity? She did it...congratulations.

Exactly.

I wouldn't be so certain it was a mercy killing either. It could have been a "hate killing", and she was crying because she felt guilty that was the force that drove her to the decision.
eh..that's far less likely than any of the other scenarios. Whether she actively assisted or just provided the means for the euthanasia, she was there, she knew what would happen, she was consciously aware of the outcome.

I will not deny the fact that Cameron knew the outcome, since we all knew he was going to die, assisted or not.

I will not deny that it is possible that someone was there, as evidenced by Cuddy's remarks about how the guy was breathing and then he wasn't 15 minutes later.

I will not deny that it is possible it was a mercy killing, as evidenced by Cameron's remarks about dying with dignity.

I will not deny that it is possible it was out of spite, as evidenced by her disdain at the guys lack of sorrow in exposing babies to radiation and the skin scene.

I will not deny that it is possible that the man died by his own hand, as evidenced in his desire to die.

I will not deny that it is possible that he died of "natural causes", without assistance, and that Cameron was crying because she didn't assist him, as evidenced by her lack of action earlier in the show.

I will not deny that it is possible that House ordered her (or Foreman or Chase) to do it (or even that one of them did it themselves) and she was upset she didn't stop them, as evidenced in the fact that House was still at the hospital long after he needed to be.

I will not deny that it is possible that any one of these or many other scenarios, however unlikely, could have happened. Whatever conclusions that one would like to draw is entirely up to them based upon their knowledge of the characters, their own life experiences, or their own abilities to fathom the endless possibilites that could have taken place.

I will not deny that it is possible I will get flamed for making such a suggestion as to persons making up their own mind either. ;)

Spyder, I'm kinda suprised that you like the show so much, considering that you don't seem to get it.

:p

I thought it was a decent episode. Not my favorite. But what I really like about the show is the "Dr House" character, not really the setting, plot, etc. And I seem to like him better when his leg is giving him problems. A cheery House just isn't the same character. I think his bitterness over his leg really has a lot to do with who he is.

I thought it was a decent episode. Not my favorite. But what I really like about the show is the "Dr House" character, not really the setting, plot, etc. And I seem to like him better when his leg is giving him problems. A cheery House just isn't the same character. I think his bitterness over his leg really has a lot to do with who he is.

I agree....on all three points!

:)

Lets see -- the three points would be two legs and a cane???? I agree he is a great character. Quite a change from his Blackadder role.

Spyder, I'm kinda suprised that you like the show so much, considering that you don't seem to get it.

:p

Yeah, it was the same when I read Moby Dick when I was eight years old. Imagine my embarassment when everyone told me it was "just a whaling story and nothing more" after I had refered to such inconceivable things as; symbolism, allegoricals, and metaphors, all entrenched within the pages. It was then that I realized just how stupid Aristarchus must have felt in his time. :rolleyes:

Yeah, it was the same when I read Moby Dick when I was eight years old. Imagine my embarassment when everyone told me it was "just a whaling story and nothing more" after I had refered to such inconceivable things as; symbolism, allegoricals, and metaphors, all entrenched within the pages. It was then that I realized just how stupid Aristarchus must have felt in his time. :rolleyes:

:D

I will not deny the fact that Cameron knew the outcome, since we all knew he was going to die, assisted or not.

I will not deny that it is possible that someone was there, as evidenced by Cuddy's remarks about how the guy was breathing and then he wasn't 15 minutes later.

I will not deny that it is possible it was a mercy killing, as evidenced by Cameron's remarks about dying with dignity.

I will not deny that it is possible it was out of spite, as evidenced by her disdain at the guys lack of sorrow in exposing babies to radiation and the skin scene.

I will not deny that it is possible that the man died by his own hand, as evidenced in his desire to die.

I will not deny that it is possible that he died of "natural causes", without assistance, and that Cameron was crying because she didn't assist him, as evidenced by her lack of action earlier in the show.

I will not deny that it is possible that House ordered her (or Foreman or Chase) to do it (or even that one of them did it themselves) and she was upset she didn't stop them, as evidenced in the fact that House was still at the hospital long after he needed to be.

I will not deny that it is possible that any one of these or many other scenarios, however unlikely, could have happened. Whatever conclusions that one would like to draw is entirely up to them based upon their knowledge of the characters, their own life experiences, or their own abilities to fathom the endless possibilites that could have taken place.

I will not deny that it is possible I will get flamed for making such a suggestion as to persons making up their own mind either. ;)

Man, if you ever give a deposition, the transcriptionist bill alone will be alarming to the adversarial attorney ! :D

Good stuff from all though, I guess the recent exchanges are indicative of how thought provoking this excellent show really is. :)

:D
Hey Rob, this post pretty much got us over the hump to page 400 !!!!!!
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8475632&&#post8475632

A man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do.

Hey Rob, this post pretty much got us over the hump to page 400 !!!!!!
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8475632&&#post8475632

A man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do.

;)

Just to let you know, I do keep up on you guys over there. I just don't post. You never know who is listening to you Qualians! :eek:

good episode, for cameron and the crazy teenager, but it did not live up to the hype - "house is the best show on television, and we're going to prove it to you"

I didn't see anything extra special here.

Well, since House is the best show on TV, they don't have to prove anything, just keep making episodes. ;)

Greek intro to House:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCEs4VVUehs

Not that different, but I like the US version with the more substantial sub work much more.

Everytime I watch that intro, I find it quite ironic that it demonstrates far more Gross Anatomy than does the intro for Grey’s Anatomy.

Funny that.

tonight house is in SD is it like this everywhere? 9/26/2006

no

Fantastic episode tonight.

Why did House want the carpet so badly?

Fantastic episode tonight.

Why did House want the carpet so badly?

Control freak!!

The BEST show on television for those that have a Heart, a Brain and Courage. :)
Starring the Wizard of House

P.S.
I’m hoping that House’s manifestation of Coccidioidomycosis becomes rampant in my county of California during the next shaker ! :D

P.S.
I’m hoping that House’s manifestation of Coccidioidomycosis becomes rampant in my county of California during the next shaker ! :D
Amen to that! :D

P.S.
I’m hoping that House’s manifestation of Coccidioidomycosis becomes rampant in my county of California during the next shaker ! :D

Are there fault lines in Fresno? I am 2 hours north of Fresno and we typically don't ever get earthquakes. Interesting diagnosis on the girl though, was it made up to get rid of her or was it real? :)

"If I forget her, can I have the carpet?"
"No"
"Well then, if I forget the carpet, can I have her?"

Too funny!

I think it was to get rid of her. ALL girls are that age are naive and believe anything. He created a story and probably gave a prescription of placebo pills.

P.S.
I’m hoping that House’s manifestation of Coccidioidomycosis becomes rampant in my county of California during the next shaker ! :D

Classic!

:D

I'm bummed that we have to wait until after the World Series for the next episode of House. I went through the same withdrawals last year. :(

I think it was to get rid of her. ALL girls are that age are naive and believe anything. He created a story and probably gave a prescription of placebo pills.

huh?

She had milky tears which is one of the things associated with the illness that he described.

She actually WAS sick and he gave her medication...that's why he kept saying "Damn!" -- he wanted to prolong it as long as possible to piss off Cuddy and it turned out to be a real illness.

Loved his dialogue straight out of Casablanca to the girl... and she was buying every word.

Loved his dialogue straight out of Casablanca to the girl... and she was buying every word.

Loved that!

Also loved the part when he was yelling through the glass of the conference room to Cuddy : "YOU CAN'T STOP OUR LOVE"!!!

:D

Fantastic episode tonight.

Why did House want the carpet so badly?
It's a constant reminder of a failure that he overcame by doing things his own way. Thus proving that he is correct in how he acts, even if it means getting shot occasionally. (if this doesn't make sense, you aren't a self-righteous overconfident prick who's always right)

Loved his dialogue straight out of Casablanca to the girl... and she was buying every word.
That scene was modeled directly on every soap opera ever, using the great dialog from Casablanca. Perfect!

Was that her kissing Foreman in one of the preview clips?

I loved it when the lady brought her stool for him to check wrapped in tissue paper. LOL

The interesting thing about House and the girl scenario is that he was enjoying her attentions, but soon realized he would quickly tire of the "game" he was playing. House thrives on unwilling adoration, but it must be accompanied with an adversarial effect, as evidenced in; the characters on his staff, his sole friend, and his boss. Without multi-faceted antagonism, there can be no relationship at all with House, since it allows for the comfortable distance he requires to survive.

As for the carpet issue, it serves as a reminder of what could have been, but wasn't. This is not necessarily a bad thing is the microcosmic world of House's mind. The carpet is one more tangible ground to his being, or, if you prefer, an affirmation.

Lastly, girl was sick, but the affections she had for House had nothing to do with the illness. That was a complete and timely ruse on House's part in order to rid himself of her in a subtle way, yet appear to be upset, as evidenced in his repated use of the word, "Damn!"

Coccidioidomycosis (also known as Valley fever and California valley fever) is a fungal disease caused by Coccidioides immitis or C. posadasii. It is endemic in certain parts of Arizona, California, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Utah and northwestern Mexico.

C. immitis resides in the soil in certain parts of the southwestern United States, northern Mexico, and a few other areas in the Western Hemisphere. Infection is caused by inhalation of airborne, fungal particles known as arthroconidia, which are a form of spore. The disease is not transmitted from person to person.

Symptomatic infection (40% of cases) usually presents as an influenza-like illness with fever, cough, headaches, rash, and myalgia (muscle pain). Some patients fail to recover and develop chronic pulmonary infection or widespread disseminated infection (affecting meninges, soft tissues, joints, and bone). Severe pulmonary disease may develop in HIV-infected persons.

C'mon, honestly! If this disease really caused teenage girls to get horny, don't you think some company would be marketing the hell out of it? Maybe that's what's in the Axe cologne, since according to the commercials, women chase you down? Yeah, right. ;)

FYI, House's jailbait muse also played Behrooz's girlfriend on season 4 of 24...

C'mon, honestly! If this disease really caused teenage girls to get horny, don't you think some company would be marketing the hell out of it?
C’mon spyder (how much exactly do those cars cost?) don’t burst all our bubbles !

We can always dream and rationalize it by considering *overt horny-ness* as a possible symptom of an “altered mental status”….scroll down to the CNS paragraph.
http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/topic103.htm

I’m still hoping for a rampant epidemic in my locale. :D

I’m still hoping for a rampant epidemic in my locale. :D

Too bad you'll have to be fighting off Grandma Ethel at the same time. ;)

Anyone else notice that House had all the kid's playthings in his "office"?

Another fave moment for me was when House sheathed his cane, despite having a mount on the bike for it. :D

So just how many Docs do we have in this thread?

So just how many Docs do we have in this thread?
Not me, "I'm from the lab."

Too bad you'll have to be fighting off Grandma Ethel at the same time. ;)

No, my friend no !

You see the mechanism of action would be that the Coccidio infects da meninges of da brain which irritates the limbic system in da brain, which send dem impulses down to dem ovaries in those young females. Which causes dem ovaries to pump out even MORE hormones which results in a sympatica partner. :)

Grandma Ethel’s ovaries burned out long-time ago so that would not be a worry.

That’s my theory and I’m stickin to it. :p

I still love the clinic visits that House has. At this point he doesn’t even have to say anything, they just have to show us the LOOK on his face while he’s listening to the patient and I start laughing. :D

Another fave moment for me was when House sheathed his cane, despite having a mount on the bike for it. :D
Yeah, sheathed it specifically like Blade. Is someone a fan? Their first season just ended.

Wasn't the blood spot a little closer to the door to House's office?

No, my friend no !

...snip...

I still love the clinic visits that House has. At this point he doesn’t even have to say anything, they just have to show us the LOOK on his face while he’s listening to the patient and I start laughing. :D


Same here. I wonder how true this is or if the writers took some liberties.

Hmm, just saw a commercial stating House will be on this Wednesday at 9pm Eastern. I thought it was on hiatus?

Repeat in place of Justice. The "all new" only refers to Bones @ 8pm.

House is still a "never miss" series in this "house"!

Fox's website says it's "all new":

HOUSE AND THE TEAM TAKE ON THE CASE OF A HURRICANE KATRINA VICTIM AND CUDDY SEARCHES FOR A SPERM DONOR ON AN ALL-NEW "HOUSE" WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 4, ON FOX

Fox's website says it's "all new":

HOUSE AND THE TEAM TAKE ON THE CASE OF A HURRICANE KATRINA VICTIM AND CUDDY SEARCHES FOR A SPERM DONOR ON AN ALL-NEW "HOUSE" WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 4, ON FOX

I thought we already had an episode about a Katrina victim.. Deja Vu !!

After watching the promo again, it's an episode from last season I believe.

Fox's website says it's "all new":

HOUSE AND THE TEAM TAKE ON THE CASE OF A HURRICANE KATRINA VICTIM AND CUDDY SEARCHES FOR A SPERM DONOR ON AN ALL-NEW "HOUSE" WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 4, ON FOX

Somebody screwed up, this is definitely a repeat.

Yep, that's a repeat from last year.

Busted

good ep tonight

good ep tonight

Hmmm, I found it oddly annoying for some reason. House seemed off his game, like a pitcher throwing wild pitches. I really don't want to deal with the David Morse character for 5 more episodes, how much do you want to bet he ends up needing House's help with a med. problem.

I did find it interesting that everyone was saying "NO." to House tonight. It almost looks like there is some sort of rebellion brewing.. I also liked the montage at the end of the show set to the tune of "Walter Reed".

Still my favorite show on TV.

Missed the opening. What was the set-up?

Has House finally met his match?

Awesome episode!

Best line from Cameron - "Because I'm hitting that and it's sweet" - or something like that - I had to hit replay and listen to that one again. Too funny.

Foreman winning the bet with House was quite good.

I personally think the mini-arch with the David Morse character should be quite interesting. We shall see.

Missed the opening. What was the set-up?

The young couple that got sick were eating in a diner and two guys attempt to rob the place. The girl gets sort of pushed aside in a scuffle and ends up on the floor, unable to breathe.

Foreman winning the bet with House was quite good.

I personally think the mini-arch with the David Morse character should be quite interesting. We shall see.

I do too. Of course I really like David Morse as an actor, so that certainly plays into it as well.

Very good show. The promise of the story arc with Morse is terrific - I just hope they keep it real. He seems the perfect match for House and willing to go to the same perverse extremes for his personal/moral/immoral take on things. It's either going to be great or quickly fall apart. I'm voting/hoping for great. The setup makes you want to cheer for your fav (House), but they make the Morse character motivated enough to prevent this from becoming one-sided and tilted heavily in House's favor. Greatly looking forward to it.

Thanks. ;)

Let me guess. Cop has accident and House just happens to be in the neighborhood and saves his life.

Later Cop shows up with two tickets to a (?) and they become buddies.

Or Cop gets a rare disease and House cures him and they don't become buddies.

Whatever, we haven't seen the last of the Cop.

Missed this week's episode of House.

Anyone know when it'll be reaired?

Let me guess. Cop has accident and House just happens to be in the neighborhood and saves his life.

The cop was po'd over house and a rectal thermometer issue.. :eek:

It’s getting interesting with Morse really going after House now… especially since House did forge some of the prescriptions for Vicodin.

Nice to see Cameron get a pair and make a stand on something. Good line from her "I like damaged people"....

He seems the perfect match for House and willing to go to the same perverse extremes for his personal/moral/immoral take on things.

what is perverse or extreme about Morse's actions? personally I find some (re: most) drug laws in this country more than a little ridiculous but regardless of the revenge motive it was clearly a legit stop, arrest, warrant & search. it's kind of hard to argue "facism/police brutality"/etc. when you're driving with loose (i.e. not in rx bottle) vicodin in you pocket and have been forging perscriptions.

The setup makes you want to cheer for your fav (House), but they make the Morse character motivated enough to prevent this from becoming one-sided and tilted heavily in House's favor.

what makes you want to cheer for House? he's clearly guilty and Morse made it clear he was willing to settle for a little humility that House it too stupid/arrogant to realize that is beyond generous in the face of prison and/or losing his license.

the real shocker to me is Wilson's willingness to protect House - granted he didn't technically make any false statements but given the stakes (Wilson's license) and the (un)likelihood of House appreciating/acknowleging his risk I am shocked he has gone as far as he has.

granted, it's just a TV show but my 2c...

...
the real shocker to me is Wilson's willingness to protect House - granted he didn't technically make any false statements but given the stakes (Wilson's license) and the (un)likelihood of House appreciating/acknowleging his risk I am shocked he has gone as far as he has.

granted, it's just a TV show but my 2c...

That's an interesting point. I've been watching House since its premier, but I can't recall what the basis of Wilson's friendship with House is. I know that before the problem with his leg, Greg was supposedly "nicer".

Still, Wilson puts up with a lot of.....um, house-isms

Not to mention that Wilson put up $15K of his own money to bail House out of jail. I'd have trouble getting a friend/colleague to do that for me and I'm way nicer (well...maybe a little bit, anyway) than House. :D

And didn't House borrow $10,000 to for Wilson to buy his bike?

Well, House did let Wilson stay at his place during Wilson's marital break-up. But didn't he do everything he could to make Wilson uncomfortable?

what is perverse or extreme about Morse's actions? personally I find some (re: most) drug laws in this country more than a little ridiculous but regardless of the revenge motive it was clearly a legit stop, arrest, warrant & search. it's kind of hard to argue "facism/police brutality"/etc. when you're driving with loose (i.e. not in rx bottle) vicodin in you pocket and have been forging perscriptions.

What is perverse and extreme is that he used his authority to target a person not committing a crime that he was aware of at the time. He set up a phony traffic stop and subsequent search that is borderline illegal (though I forget the exact reason he gave for the search itself, so that's potentially iffy). He also is extreme in his following House around the hospital offering a trade of humiliation vs. arrest. If he thinks he has a good drug case, then he is blatantly abusing his discretion. I never suggested "facism/police brutality", just an interesting plotline. And the cop had no idea or way of knowing that House was forging prescriptions in order to justify that stop (unless I've forgotten something - I was just commenting in general on a good two character interaction, not trying to make legal cases as you seem to be). As for it being a completely legal stop, arrest, warrant and search - you may be on shaky ground with that, but I'd have to re-watch the sequence of events to comment credibly.

what makes you want to cheer for House? he's clearly guilty and Morse made it clear he was willing to settle for a little humility that House it too stupid/arrogant to realize that is beyond generous in the face of prison and/or losing his license.

You want to cheer for House because he's the show's hero/protagonist, warts and all. It's that simple. My point was, they avoided that trap by making both sides have good/bad issues and circumstances. I wasn't suggesting House is some great role model - again just making a general point. House is the main character, after all, and it's natural to tend to "root for the home team". House is "clearly guilty" of what to Morse's knowledge and at what timeframe? It shows that both of them will twist the rules - which was my point in the beginning. Morse's character is not clearly "right" or the "hero" in this and neither is House. It's what makes it so compelling to watch, to see the lengths they will each go to and knowing they are intellectual equals.

the real shocker to me is Wilson's willingness to protect House - granted he didn't technically make any false statements but given the stakes (Wilson's license) and the (un)likelihood of House appreciating/acknowleging his risk I am shocked he has gone as far as he has. granted, it's just a TV show but my 2c...

Of course Wilson made false statements! He lied about signing the Rx for House where the Dr.'s names were obviously different signatures. But I do agree with your conclusion on this.

If House were straight arrow and one sided, he would be the male version of Mary Tyler Moore. The fact that he is imperfect is what makes him interesting.

I think House is interesting because he says things we would sometimes like to say but wouldn't.

Something seem "off" so far this season. Odds are it relates to what the promos for the fall season referred to as things not being what they seem, but the trio is really stating to act more "House" like. There is no way Cameron we knew would drug a patient to keep him in the hospital, and it really looks like she is enjoying paying cat and mouse with house. It will be interesting to see where this all leads.

Something seem "off" so far this season. Odds are it relates to what the promos for the fall season referred to as things not being what they seem, but the trio is really stating to act more "House" like. There is no way Cameron we knew would drug a patient to keep him in the hospital, and it really looks like she is enjoying paying cat and mouse with house. It will be interesting to see where this all leads.

That is because House actually died from the gunshot wounds. In the season finale, Cameron will wake up in bed and realize all the episodes of him being alive were just a dream. She weeps, "Oh, Greg, Greg." Camera pans down to reveal she is pregnant. Fade to black. ;)

Ah, so the "Rosanne" ending eh? :)

Well, House did let Wilson stay at his place during Wilson's marital break-up. But didn't he do everything he could to make Wilson uncomfortable?

Actually, it's been said mutliple times that House has been there for Wilson during all of his bad relationships (I believe two failed marriages).

I really don't want to see this playing out where Morse's character gets some ailment, and House comes to the rescue. Now, if Morse gets some ailment, and House lets him die, that would be a twist, but even House wouldn't do that.

btw, Morse is doing a great job playing this character. Reminds me of his performance in The Green Mile a little.

Morse and his character are wonderful challenges for House/Laurie. I, too, hope they don't come up with some schmaltzy conclusion (e.g. House saves Morse's character as stated by someone else). I don't know what they plan and don't want to know. Given the quality of the writing, I am just hopeful it will be a worthwhile payoff - maybe even something leaving open the possibility of a renewed conflict down the road somewhere. This conflict has been delicious.

Those of us who like the House character (include me in) really, really dislike the Morse character, which makes him a very successful addition to the show. They haven't had a good foil for House fow a while.
It is hard to imagine how all this will play out, but, as some others have stated, everything may not be on the up and up. Fortunately, I am willing to wait week by week to see what develops (as if I had choice).

Those of us who like the House character (include me in) really, really dislike the Morse character, which makes him a very successful addition to the show. They haven't had a good foil for House fow a while.
It is hard to imagine how all this will play out, but, as some others have stated, everything may not be on the up and up. Fortunately, I am willing to wait week by week to see what develops (as if I had choice).

I dislike Morse's character, but not as much as Chi McBride's character. They couldn't get rid of him fast enough. He lasted 5 episodes too long.

Those of us who like the House character (include me in) really, really dislike the Morse character, which makes him a very successful addition to the show. They haven't had a good foil for House fow a while.


After what, 3 episodes show me ONE redeeming quality of Morse's character. House may have his problems but he is brilliant and helps people. All Morse's character does is antagonize people. He has no point for existing but to hassle House, get rid of him.

If there needs to be a foil for House, bring in an equally brilliant Dr., maybe a wonder kid ala Doogie Houser. Challenge him where is really matters not with some flat foot stick up his a** cop.

Chi McBride's character was weakly drawn, I thought. House could have always just quit and moved to another hospital to avoid the problem. Morse's character has real power over House (at least potentially) that cannot be solved by moving.
It is going to be great to see this play out. I think that House has to enlist an ally (more than he already has with Wilson) to deal with the Morse character. But, I cannot see House asking for help outright.
Maybe the police commissioner's kid becomes gravely ill, and House is trying to help the kid, but is distracted by the Morse character .... Probably too obvious a solution, but something like that.
I guess we will learn more tonight.

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If there needs to be a foil for House, bring in an equally brilliant Dr., maybe a wonder kid ala Doogie Houser. Challenge him where is really matters not with some flat foot stick up his a** cop.

Now that would be interesting. Would we make him nicer or tougher than House.

If we made him tougher than House, that would probably give us some better plot lines.

Challenge him where is really matters not with some flat foot stick up his a** cop.


It's a thermometer .... not a stick



I personally like the Morse character. If you were embarassed by someone like he was of course you would be looking to get a little revenge. Every great hero needs his Moriarty.

Every great hero needs his Moriarty.

This is a great parallel!!!!

I didn't care a lot for tonights program. I guess it was what you would call character development. It helped develop the relationship betwenn House and his proteges, and House and Wilson. Cameron looked great, Cuddy looked old.

Again, Morse's character, (what is his name Trigger?) had no purpose but to intimidate. There has yet to be any glimmer of an underlying reason for him to exist.

Liked the part where House honestly explained why he became a doctor. Nice to get a straight answer out of him for once. Looks like the writers are slowly building a case against House, will be interesting to see the climax episode, Morse is always excellent.

Funny how "the team" got together in an attempt to get their stories straight. That kind of thing never works and always backfires :eek: :eek:

I liked the idea that the season pl;ot line moved along. Wilson's bank problem, police pressure turned up a little.
I didn't like the medical part too much this week. I found way to hard to beleive that they just woke the guy up and he was fine for 24 hours.

I thought it was a pretty enlightening episode in terms of character development. Although I thought it was missing some of House's witicisms....just not enough of them in this episode.

I love the cat and mouse game between House and Morse (still can't recall the character name :D ). They are slowly ratcheting up the tension and potential consequences. I just hope the conclusion is mostly plausible and not some sudden jolt of humanity on the part of one of them.

The only real standout, hard to accept scene was, for me, the end when Wilson tried to access his ATM. It would be near impossible for a beat cop/detective to be able to freeze the financial assets of the prime suspect, much less a mere witness/possible conspirator in Rx fraud. It just doesn't work like that - though it makes for an interesting story to put pressure on the friendship of House and Wilson.

I love the cat and mouse game between House and Morse (still can't recall the character name :D ). They are slowly ratcheting up the tension and potential consequences. I just hope the conclusion is mostly plausible and not some sudden jolt of humanity on the part of one of them.

The only real standout, hard to accept scene was, for me, the end when Wilson tried to access his ATM. It would be near impossible for a beat cop/detective to be able to freeze the financial assets of the prime suspect, much less a mere witness/possible conspirator in Rx fraud. It just doesn't work like that - though it makes for an interesting story to put pressure on the friendship of House and Wilson.

I agree.

Frankly, I had a hard time accepting the suicide/give my heart to my son scene as well, but that was on a different level than the freezing of Wilson's bank account.

I was thinking that the freezing of the assests is hinting at a larger issue. Maybe large scale fraud at the hospital.

Liked the part where House honestly explained why he became a doctor. Nice to get a straight answer out of him for once.

Yes, he has never been known to BS with a straight face before, has he.

Anyone but me think last night's episode looked horrible? There were so many crawlies on the walls in the hotel room that I thought I was watching SD.

ATL OTA

-TPM

I think it's funny that House and Wilson "have to" borrow money from each other. We all know that House lives in anything but a mansion, and it's not like heads of departments are earning minimum wage.

Prediction: Wilson is the one that nails Trigger, not House.

The only real standout, hard to accept scene was, for me, the end when Wilson tried to access his ATM. It would be near impossible for a beat cop/detective to be able to freeze the financial assets of the prime suspect, much less a mere witness/possible conspirator in Rx fraud. It just doesn't work like that - though it makes for an interesting story to put pressure on the friendship of House and Wilson.

I was thinking the same thing and then a friend told me that there are provisions of the Patriot Act that could be easily abused to facilitate that action. Not sure how though.

I was thinking the same thing and then a friend told me that there are provisions of the Patriot Act that could be easily abused to facilitate that action. Not sure how though.

Yes, but in very specific cases involving national security and only upon demonstration that the funds are related in some way to forwarding, supporting or sustaining an act of terror or violence. A local doc suspected of Rx abuse would simply not qualify and especially not an unknowing accomplice. Nor would a local detective have much authority to act in such a way. It would be referred to the DEA and a federal prosecutor and would take MUCH longer to accomplish than the time frame supposedly in question. But, we drift into that land of reality where TV shows rarely tread in such minutiae.

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Prediction: Wilson is the one that nails Trigger, not House.

Either that or House saves his life. What was Trigger in the clinic for anyway??

Is being mean spirited a symptom of some deadly disease. Guess that means House would be terminal.

Calm down guys - Trigger's not what you all think. He was sent there by Jack Bauer of CTU on a recruiting mission - since it seems that everyone who ends up in the CTU Medical unit - usually ends up dead.

:-)

ENJOY THE SHOW!

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If your looking for something unrealistic in the episode ..... there is no way that the patients muscles would have allowed him to simply walk out of the hospital after so many years of non-use ... unless I'm missing something.

One of my favorite parts of the episode was when the Morse character said House's favorite line 'Everybody lies' when talking to one of the residents. Especially funny because everyone in the Hospital he has been talking to has been lying.

Jucy for sure.

Yes, but in very specific cases involving national security and only upon demonstration that the funds are related in some way to forwarding, supporting or sustaining an act of terror or violence.
Or, unless some member of the Bush Regime just decided on their own to do it. ;)

If your looking for something unrealistic in the episode ..... there is no way that the patients muscles would have allowed him to simply walk out of the hospital after so many years of non-use ... unless I'm missing something.

I believe House said something that indicated his muscles weren't completely inactive when he described the difference between a coma and a persistent vegetative state.

One of my favorite parts of the episode was when the Morse character said House's favorite line 'Everybody lies' when talking to one of the residents. Especially funny because everyone in the Hospital he has been talking to has been lying.
Yes, great line. It was when he was interviewing Foreman. "If you had my job, you'd know. Everybody lies." Then Foreman gave him that look. Good stuff.

Yes, but in very specific cases involving national security and only upon demonstration that the funds are related in some way to forwarding, supporting or sustaining an act of terror or violence. A local doc suspected of Rx abuse would simply not qualify and especially not an unknowing accomplice. Nor would a local detective have much authority to act in such a way. It would be referred to the DEA and a federal prosecutor and would take MUCH longer to accomplish than the time frame supposedly in question. But, we drift into that land of reality where TV shows rarely tread in such minutiae.

But remember that this isn't Bank of America we're talking about -- it's the huge behemoth "Princeton-Plainsboro Bank." A local cop might be able to pull some strings at a local bank, at least temporarily.

The most unrealistic thing was how quickly Wilson got a live person on the phone when calling the bank!

So any chance this first part of the season is all in House's head and that he is still in a coma from the shooting from last season? A few reasons I think this is possible.

1. They really skipped a lot from the end of last season to the beggining of this one (an odd gap)

2. House as well as others around him have acted unusually out of character

3. A lot of these "patience" he is seeing this season seem to have direct corolation to himself... the father estranged with his Son, the autistic child who couldn't relate to the world, the overweight patient who sees food as a crutch but refuses to admit he has a problem, an aging doctor who claims to have no regrets doing unethical things in his studies because the ends justify the means.

4. The cop could be seen as his own concious or rational self trying to keep his personality in check (ID vs. EGO). The whole 17yo in love with him seemed very wish fullfillment but then as usual he ruins it for himself in a sense saying that he can never let himself actually enjoy life in any way. Also the way he suddenly went from use of his leg to cane without much of a developement.

anyway might be reaching but something about this season so far seems almost dreamlike or unreal and there are some odd coincidences such as the cop saying the line "everyone lies" which is an exact quote from House

So any chance this first part of the season is all in House's head and that he is still in a coma from the shooting from last season? A few reasons I think this is possible.

1. They really skipped a lot from the end of last season to the beggining of this one (an odd gap)

2. House as well as others around him have acted unusually out of character

3. A lot of these "patience" he is seeing this season seem to have direct corolation to himself... the father estranged with his Son, the autistic child who couldn't relate to the world, the overweight patient who sees food as a crutch but refuses to admit he has a problem, an aging doctor who claims to have no regrets doing unethical things in his studies because the ends justify the means.

4. The cop could be seen as his own concious or rational self trying to keep his personality in check (ID vs. EGO). The whole 17yo in love with him seemed very wish fullfillment but then as usual he ruins it for himself in a sense saying that he can never let himself actually enjoy life in any way. Also the way he suddenly went from use of his leg to cane without much of a developement.

anyway might be reaching but something about this season so far seems almost dreamlike or unreal and there are some odd coincidences such as the cop saying the line "everyone lies" which is an exact quote from House


You make some pretty good points, many of which I had not thought of. Good post!

So any chance this first part of the season is all in House's head and that he is still in a coma from the shooting from last season? A few reasons I think this is possible.

1. They really skipped a lot from the end of last season to the beggining of this one (an odd gap)

2. House as well as others around him have acted unusually out of character

3. A lot of these "patience" he is seeing this season seem to have direct corolation to himself... the father estranged with his Son, the autistic child who couldn't relate to the world, the overweight patient who sees food as a crutch but refuses to admit he has a problem, an aging doctor who claims to have no regrets doing unethical things in his studies because the ends justify the means.

4. The cop could be seen as his own concious or rational self trying to keep his personality in check (ID vs. EGO). The whole 17yo in love with him seemed very wish fullfillment but then as usual he ruins it for himself in a sense saying that he can never let himself actually enjoy life in any way. Also the way he suddenly went from use of his leg to cane without much of a developement.

anyway might be reaching but something about this season so far seems almost dreamlike or unreal and there are some odd coincidences such as the cop saying the line "everyone lies" which is an exact quote from House

Sounds ok to me too, something about the cases this year seem a bit far fetched, they just all seem over the top.

I believe House said something that indicated his muscles weren't completely inactive when he described the difference between a coma and a persistent vegetative state.
Which was a complete crock. The exact state of the brain has little to do with physical atrophy. But hey, that's why it's called fiction.

OK, no comments on this weeks show? I only got around to watching it late tonight but I'm having a similar reaction to it that I had to a number of Lost episodes this season, anger. I posted in the Lost topic that the torture was getting out of hand and I found myself angry as I watched the show, I wasn't curious, I wasn't enjoying the show, I was flat out angry. And that was my reaction to this weeks episode with the sick 18 y/o guy.

Trigger wasn't even on screen but his actions were way over the top. He is either super cop or VERY well connected, if so the question is to who. I don't know where this is all leading, but everyone was slightly out of character again, it will be interesting to see if something is revealed next week what the clues were that things aren't what they seem.

Wilson taking the bus. Hasn't he heard of Hertz?

Wilson taking the bus. Hasn't he heard of Hertz?

HAHAHA,, I was cracking up when I saw Wilson waiting for the bus. Oh, BTW, I think they froze all of his accounts so i'm not sure he could scrape up enough for a rental car.

I'm betting that Tigger gets House suspended the day before Tigger finds out that his son is suffering from some exotic terminal illness and needs House to figure it out.

Has to happen. Remember, you read it here first. :)

/\ Way too easy. I'll be supremely disappointed if they take that tired and unimaginative approach.

Trigger wasn't even on screen but his actions were way over the top. He is either super cop or VERY well connected, if so the question is to who. I don't know where this is all leading, but everyone was slightly out of character again, it will be interesting to see if something is revealed next week what the clues were that things aren't what they seem.
Did you catch the previews for next week's show? Trigger froze the assets of his three underlings as well. I think that's just a little too much to swallow.

Did you catch the previews for next week's show? Trigger froze the assets of his three underlings as well. I think that's just a little too much to swallow.

While I'm sure this ploy is the setup to forcing one of House's co-workers to "give him up", it is, indeed, far-fetched and unrealistic. It is nearly inconceivable that a street Detective could accomplish such legal feats as asset seizure at all, even on the suspect as this point, much less his suspected unindicted co-conspirators. Maybe they're getting all the medical references right through use of a consultant, but they need new legal counsel. But then, it does add pressure and interest and it is "just TV", so I guess I can overlook it if the story and resolution are satisfactory.

The freezing of all these peoples bank accounts is causing a real :rolleyes: problem for me.

While I'm sure this ploy is the setup to forcing one of House's co-workers to "give him up", it is, indeed, far-fetched and unrealistic. It is nearly inconceivable that a street Detective could accomplish such legal feats as asset seizure at all, even on the suspect as this point, much less his suspected unindicted co-conspirators. Maybe they're getting all the medical references right through use of a consultant, but they need new legal counsel. But then, it does add pressure and interest and it is "just TV", so I guess I can overlook it if the story and resolution are satisfactory.

All true, but didn't the DEA somehow get involved with this? They'd be able to freeze assets wouldn't they?

All true, but didn't the DEA somehow get involved with this? They'd be able to freeze assets wouldn't they?
Even if they could, would they? We're talking about about a doctor abusing pain killers, not a Miami-Columbia drug cartel. And they're freezing the assets of possible co-conspirators, not even suspects at this point.

Edit: I just went back and reread that. I'm not trying to be argumentative here, I'm simply trying to further the conversation. :)

Even if they could, would they? We're talking about about a doctor abusing pain killers, not a Miami-Columbia drug cartel. And they're freezing the assets of possible co-conspirators, not even suspects at this point.

Edit: I just went back and reread that. I'm not trying to be argumentative here, I'm simply trying to further the conversation. :)

But didn't all of House's staff write scrips for him? Would that not make them a "possible" part of Tritter's investigation?

Even if they could, would they? We're talking about about a doctor abusing pain killers, not a Miami-Columbia drug cartel. And they're freezing the assets of possible co-conspirators, not even suspects at this point.

Edit: I just went back and reread that. I'm not trying to be argumentative here, I'm simply trying to further the conversation. :)

Didn't read it as argumentative. It's all speculation. I'm still not sure what Tritter's motives are in all of this. If it were that he was just insulted by House's treatment of him, then this guy needs even more therapy than House!

His response is over the top abuse of power.

I like the show a lot, for its medical mysteries, and its sometimes rudimentary speculations on life, death, and God. However, I despise House, as a person, and I find it hard to believe there are people who actually ROOT for the guy to get out of his situation. I actually enjoy seeing his world closing in around him as he isolates himself due to his actions. He's not a sympathetic character at all, however the satellite characters, namely Wilson and the three doctors in his staff (Foreman, Cameron and Chase) don't deserve the treatment that they're getting by the detective. It's still interesting to see House pushed into a corner, and I hope it doesn't get resolved that easily. To me, it seems like the detective is sort of House's mirror, he has the same kind of personality and attitude, and he's exacting a bit of karmic justice on House.

I like the show a lot, for its medical mysteries, and its sometimes rudimentary speculations on life, death, and God. However, I despise House, as a person, and I find it hard to believe there are people who actually ROOT for the guy to get out of his situation. I actually enjoy seeing his world closing in around him as he isolates himself due to his actions. He's not a sympathetic character at all, however the satellite characters, namely Wilson and the three doctors in his staff (Foreman, Cameron and Chase) don't deserve the treatment that they're getting by the detective. It's still interesting to see House pushed into a corner, and I hope it doesn't get resolved that easily. To me, it seems like the detective is sort of House's mirror, he has the same kind of personality and attitude, and he's exacting a bit of karmic justice on House.

You just summarized exactly how I feel about what's happening on the show currently. :) I certainly am not rooting for House to get out of this easily.

You just summarized exactly how I feel about what's happening on the show currently. :) I certainly am not rooting for House to get out of this easily.

I doubt anyone is "rooting" for House, nor is that the show's intent, IMO. Trigger is very much House's mirror and therein lies the intrigue. How far will each go - it's a game of chicken as the "law" squares off against the "medicos". I'm eager for a satisfying conclusion, but in no hurry. I like the pace they are using to play the main story and slowly weave the legal battle into it. This last one really exposed House to Wilson and I think certain relationships may change, perhaps permanently.

As for DEA and the asset seizure - wouldn't happen. Not yet and not in these circumstances. This would be investigated by Compliance investigators, probably not a Special Agent in sight yet. And it's simply not plausible that the suspected co-workers' assets could be touched in any way, no matter the suspicion.

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As for DEA and the asset seizure - wouldn't happen. Not yet and not in these circumstances. This would be investigated by Compliance investigators, probably not a Special Agent in sight yet. And it's simply not plausible that the suspected co-workers' assets could be touched in any way, no matter the suspicion.


Hey, its TV. :)

The mention of the DEA was in regards to Wilson's DEA number that allows him to write prescriptions, not that the DEA was investigating him.

I despise House, as a person, and I find it hard to believe there are people who actually ROOT for the guy...He's not a sympathetic character at all...

I, personally, sympathize with House in every way, shape, and form, having gone through some similar battles with life as he has experienced, using many of the same flawed tactics. I have, however, adopted a different path as I've grown. My wife and son have also made me a much better person...House, in contrast, has no kids to play role model to, nor a wife to share his experiences in life.

Still, I love House. He's a brilliant, refreshing, well-portrayed character that isn't cookie-cutter molded, makes no apologies for his behaviors, and deep down, does have a honest sense of self and the world around him. He's easily one of the most complex characters to EVER grace the TV screen.

"RAH, RAH, RAH-RAH-RAH...GOOOOOOOOOOO HOUSE!" :D

House needs a couple years in jail