The mention of the DEA was in regards to Wilson's DEA number that allows him to write prescriptions, not that the DEA was investigating him.

Not to pick nits, but that's self-contradictory - it takes a DEA investigation to pull a Dr's DEA prescribing authorization.

Anyway, I was responding to the poster who suggested that since Trigger the cop couldn't seize the assets, then DEA may be involved. The mention of Wilson's DEA # being pulled is good TV but bad law. It would take a real DEA investigation. But, like someone else said - hey, it's TV.

I'd find it very hard to believe that a full-scale DEA investigation is required in order to suspend a doctor or vet's prescription privileges. There must be a way for local authorities to fast-track a suspension.

Get a grip folks ... it's all a dream/hallucination ... the entire season ... plenty of clues so far. ;) :D

I'd find it very hard to believe that a full-scale DEA investigation is required in order to suspend a doctor or vet's prescription privileges. There must be a way for local authorities to fast-track a suspension.

You may find it hard, but your finding is incorrect. A state can suspend the medical license or otherwise restrict a doctor's privilige to practice for cause in that state, but it can not suspend his DEA number. Only DEA can do that and only after an investigation and usually by issuance of an Order to Show Cause and Immediate Suspension, often by the Diversion and Compliance sections, but occasionally by Special Agents. And those are investigated pretty fully first. The type of case presented in House would simply not result in such quick suspension action against either Dr. House or his associates. Especially his associates. And the seizure of all their assets is plainly absurd.

But we digress. The point of the show is entertainment and tension and it has both in spades. Legal misconceptions notwithstanding.

This from a 2003 article in the Village Voice: http://opioids.com/offshorepharmacy/deapaindoc.html


"The DEA denies there's been an increase in investigations and prosecutions of physicians and refutes the notion that it's engaged in a crackdown on pain doctors in general. The agency insists that it's after only rogue practitioners who overprescribe the medicines and who know—or should know—that their patients are selling the drugs on the black market. So far this year, says the DEA, the agency has launched 557 investigations, pursued actions against 441 doctors, and arrested 34, a small fraction of the nearly 1 million physicians licensed to dispense controlled drugs. "DEA statistics," the agency proclaimed on October 30, "show that the vast majority of practitioners registered with the DEA comply with the requirements of the Controlled Substances Act and prescribe controlled substances in a responsible manner." The agency added, "Doctors operating within the bounds of accepted medical practice have nothing to fear from the DEA."

But some doctors believe that the DEA, having conspicuously failed to stem the tide of illegal drug use in this country, is coming after physicians to ratchet up the agency's prosecution count. (This year alone, two federal reviews lambasted the DEA for its poor performance in fighting illegal drug use, one report giving the agency a zero on a scale of one to 100.)"

It is always possible within the fictional world of TV to believe that Tritter (not sure why we keep calling him Trigger) has an overly ambitious friend in the DEA who would love to bust some overprescribing doctors.

I feel stupid in asking this, but I just purchased Season 1 of House on DVD. It was broadcast in 16:9 and the box says it is Widescreen 1.78:1, but I can't get it to play in widescreen. I keep getting it letterboxed in 4:3. I put other widescreen DVDs in and they play fine. When I upconvert to 1080i, it goes wide but distorts the picture the same way it does with regular 4:3 DVDs.

Is there some flag I need to reset on my DVD player to get it from 4:3 to 16:9 mode :mad: even though my other widescreen DVDs play OK? Thanks.

I feel stupid in asking this, but I just purchased Season 1 of House on DVD. It was broadcast in 16:9 and the box says it is Widescreen 1.78:1, but I can't get it to play in widescreen. I keep getting it letterboxed in 4:3. I put other widescreen DVDs in and they play fine. When I upconvert to 1080i, it goes wide but distorts the picture the same way it does with regular 4:3 DVDs.

Is there some flag I need to reset on my DVD player to get it from 4:3 to 16:9 mode :mad: even though my other widescreen DVDs play OK? Thanks.

Fox screwed the pooch and released Season 1 as Non-Anamorphic, this is why it wont play in widescreen. This is also the reason I will never own this set. Maybe one day they will re-release this the proper way.

It's a damn shame as this is one of my favorite shows.

Season 2 is anamorphic and looks great.

To hell with DVD. Maybe Fox will release it on BD, then you wouldn't have to worry about them rereleasing S1 anamorphically.;)

To hell with DVD. Maybe Fox will release it on BD, then you wouldn't have to worry about them rereleasing S1 anamorphically.;)

Dave beat me to it!

If you really want it released the "correct way", yes, it must be in HD! :)

Hooray for elitism... :rolleyes:

Hooray for elitism... :rolleyes:

What are you talking about?

Thanks for the quick response. I had checked the Amazon user comments before I purchased it and they didn't indicate any problem with the presentation mode. So I was racking my brain trying to figure out what I was doing wrong. The answer makes perfect sense.

And yeah, it is sad they screwed it up. I'm just glad I got it on sale on Black Friday.

what was the 30 silver coin's reference to when wilson walked into Tritter's room.?
I assume he is fessing up before Chase does.

Looks like things are reaching critical mass. Shame we have to wait two weeks.
And to get to that point, all it took was House almost causing a 6 year old child to be needlesly crippled. I don't see Wilson as a "Judas" as his 30 pieces of silver comment indicated as House isn't an innocent man. I think things had gotten to the point that somebody had to say something for the good of House, the hospital and it's doctors and especially for the patients. I'm not sure of Wilson's motive to give evidence before Chase could.

Looks like things are reaching critical mass. Shame we have to wait two weeks.
And to get to that point, all it took was House almost causing a 6 year old child to be needlesly crippled.


How so?

Just who exactly is at fault? In my book there is one and only one person Trigger. He set all this in motion for whatever reason and is pulling all the strings. House was fully functional when he was well med'd, with out them, in pain he makes mistakes.

not to be an enabler I think that House should explore alternative option for pain management, but that would ruin the plot.

I love this show.

Good episode.

I liked the opening scene with House shining the red dot on Cuddy's cleavage! :p

... I'm not sure of Wilson's motive to give evidence before Chase could.

My wife and I thought about that, and we think it is probably that Wilson believes he is protecting Chase. Given the bizzare "friendship" he has with House, it is more likely that it would be better for a friend to be the one to do it. It isn't really betrayal, but the act of someone who wants to see House get the help he needs.

Besides, I'm sure Wilson knows that Greg is in trouble and that eventually he would do something that would have dire consequences.

Guess Wilson figured out that House darn near cutting off a couple of limbs on a little girl changes everything.

I do wonder though. From a medical standpoint, can someone actually function at a higher level when taking pain meds?

I cannot but repeat the cliche' once again "I love this show !!".

Marvelous writing - medical procedural oddities notwithstanding. Great cast - especially Hugh Laurie - deserving of an Emmy. For me, House is the best character created on TV in the past few years.

I was always hoping that one of House's underlings would finally come through one of these days instead of just taking up space and getting their ideas shot down systematicaly .... never thought that when they did that it would keep House from maiming a child.

What a great show.

I'm thinking it's possible that Wilson decided to go to Tritter to perhaps put House in a better light than what would have been cast if Chase had been the one to 'sell him out'. Guess we'll see.

What a great show.

I think Wilson just figured that enough was enough.

Wonder where the writers are going to take us with the Tritter character. So many roads, so little time.....

I'm thinking it's possible that Wilson decided to go to Tritter to perhaps put House in a better light than what would have been cast if Chase had been the one to 'sell him out'. Guess we'll see.

What a great show.

I'm guessing Wilson went to see Tritter to cover his a$$, as most of House's stash came from Wilson's scrip pad.

I'm guessing Wilson went to see Tritter to cover his a$$, as most of House's stash came from Wilson's scrip pad.

It was 2 prescriptions he wrote on Wilsons pad, not a whole stash. But it looks like he was certainly saving up with all the drugs they found in his house.

And nice to see people finally getting Tritters name right. God Morse plays a good meanie!

I'm guessing Wilson went to see Tritter to cover his a$$, as most of House's stash came from Wilson's scrip pad.

If you watched the preview of next week's episode it explains it.

Wilson did a good thing, he worked out a deal for House, that if House goes into treatment for 2 months, everything will be dropped. However, I don't think House will go for it and I hope he doesn't.

I hate that cop, I hope he gets what is coming to him, he crossed the line.

I also don't believe a lone cop has that much power that he can freeze assets with no proof, suspend licenses, etc. That is a lawsuit waiting to happen, you can't just do that to someone based on a flimsy investigation. What proof did he have that they did anything? Weak.

I was figuring that Wilson saw Chase's chin (from the take-down punch) and knew he had crossed the line and had to be stopped one way or another. Taking down a freind is one thing, but sinking to physical abuse could be the topper.

My wife and I were also wondering about the 30 silver coins. Didn't think it would be going back to Judas, because House is definatly no Jesus.

I agree William.

It was 2 prescriptions he wrote on Wilsons pad, not a whole stash. But it looks like he was certainly saving up with all the drugs they found in his house.

And nice to see people finally getting Tritters name right. God Morse plays a good meanie!

Must have missed that part. It seemed to me that in addition to Wilson writing scrips for House, House was writing scrips for House on Wilson's pad.

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My wife and I were also wondering about the 30 silver coins. Didn't think it would be going back to Judas, because House is definatly no Jesus.God knows, House isn't Jesus, but Wilson IS playing Judas, in all respects. I wouldn't be surprised to see Wilson kiss House as the cops come to arrest him.

Wilson may be giving up House, but I would not say he is like Judas. I know true friends stick around even in bad times, but Wilson has already realized that House is in it for himself and doesn't care about friends in any way.

I also don't believe a lone cop has that much power that he can freeze assets with no proof, suspend licenses, etc. That is a lawsuit waiting to happen, you can't just do that to someone based on a flimsy investigation. What proof did he have that they did anything? Weak.


Perhaps the Judge that Tritter is working with to get the various favorable rulings was also treated by House during clinic hours. That's how I make sense of it =)

My theory...House will wake up from the induced coma after the gunshot wound and everything will be back to normal. It may take a few more episodes.

I was thinking Wilson went to Tritter before Chase to be able to work out a deal that was favorable to all parties involved. Remeber Wilson's lawyer told him he could be going to jail for helping House out. If Chase had gone to Tritter first Wilson's admissions would carry less power therefore his deal would not be as good for himself.

It is always possible within the fictional world of TV to believe that Tritter (not sure why we keep calling him Trigger) has an overly ambitious friend in the DEA who would love to bust some overprescribing doctors.
This hit me last night that his name is Tritter and not Trigger. Someone was unsure of his name in this post here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8901106&highlight=trigger#post8901106) and others, myself included, just picked up on it and have used it since. After all, if you repeat something enough times, it becomes fact right?

I thought we were calling him Trigger because he was a horses behind.

I was always hoping that one of House's underlings would finally come through one of these days instead of just taking up space and getting their ideas shot down systematicaly .... never thought that when they did that it would keep House from maiming a child.

I don't know if this is the writers' intent (nor my POV), but I'm sure you'll find many people blaming the cop, the legal system and society, not House, for almost maiming the girl. After all, if House had his pills he would have diagnosed correctly, no? His record of infallibility is still intact. The only time he's failed is when it's someone ELSE'S fault.


What a great show.

I agree, although I'm not sure how much of that comes from Laurie himself (a great deal, no doubt), the rest of the cast (pretty good) and the scripts (getting better lately).

=NLK=

My wife and I were also wondering about the 30 silver coins. Didn't think it would be going back to Judas, because House is definatly no Jesus.

The point being that Judas was alledgedly Jesus' closest friend (emphasis on "closest friend") ... come on now , even a "godless heathen" like myself knows that part. ;) :D

My wife and I were also wondering about the 30 silver coins. Didn't think it would be going back to Judas, because House is definatly no Jesus.
I think that "I'm going to need 30 pieces of silver" was a reference to betrayal in general. I don't think that it was intended to draw lines of similarity between House and Jesus.

I agree with Grammar Police on the "coins" reference. The writers often throw in cultural, literary, or historical references for the characters to use; none of those require us to associate the character using the allusion to the original source.

I think that "I'm going to need 30 pieces of silver" was a reference to betrayal in general. I don't think that it was intended to draw lines of similarity between House and Jesus.

That's the way I took it, as a betrayer in general.

Wilson was likening himself to Judas, not House to Jesus. Judas betrayed his friend Jesus for just 30 silver coins. The same as Wilson is now doing. But I don't blame him. House did not give him any sympathy whatsoever, but if you really think about it, when House stole the two pages of scripts, Cuddy was not allowing him any Vicodin for his pain at that time. The whole situation with Wilson was caused by Tritter, not House.

I thought we were calling him Trigger because he was a horses behind.

If people are confused about a "30 pieces of silver" reference, what are the chances they will know the name of Roy Roger's horse? :D

I'd rather call him Trigger than Tritter anyday, since he's a gun-happy, shoot first, ask questions later kind of guy. :)

Wilson may be giving up House, but I would not say he is like Judas. I know true friends stick around even in bad times, but Wilson has already realized that House is in it for himself and doesn't care about friends in any way.


Agree. Wilson is no Judas who is betraying an innocent man. Regardless of how House became addicted to pain meds, as someone said above he is in it for himself, with no regard to the harm he is doing or could do to others (and this was his way of operating even when well medicated--his medical decisions and his dealings with people are two separate issues--even if his medical judgement was not compromised his dealings with people certainly were). Man, I like this program.

I do find it interesting. I like the Detective Traeger character a lot as well, because obviously his character is much like House, except he has the law behind him, while House has, well, just House in the end, and that as we are seeing will only go so far.

It will be interesting if we see House get his day in court (if he decides to take it that far), or to what other extremes he will go if he can't get his "meds".

"30 pieces of silver" has long been a generic comment on betrayal. There is seldom any serious comparison to either Judas or Jesus when that line is used. In Hollywood or real life. I think some are trying to find more parallels than were ever meant.

Very interesting episode. House is really pushing everyone over the line. I'm trying to figure out how this can come out well at all. It can't just end one episode and then go back to status quo after all this. His friendship with Wilson, esp.

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Very interesting episode. House is really pushing everyone over the line. I'm trying to figure out how this can come out well at all. It can't just end one episode and then go back to status quo after all this. His friendship with Wilson, esp.[/QUOTE]

Really, would you throw House a life preserver or an anchor? :D

Watching House is very much like watching a train wreck. You don't want to see the pain, but you just can't keep your eyes off of it.

The title of last night's episode was 'Finding Judas'. So I think we found Judas in Wilson.

I think Wilson cares about his friend, House. I think he's going to cooperate with Tritter, not to save his own practice, but to force House to get the help he needs but would never voluntarily seek. Addiction to prescription medication is serious; the addict has as little control over it as if they were addicted to some illegal drug. (A real-world example was recently very visible, involving the most well-known radio talk-show host--he had to check into a clinic for a supervised rehab, even given the fact that he wanted to kick the addiction to his prescription pain medication. Consider that in the case of "House," the addict shows no desire to quit.)

Very interesting episode. House is really pushing everyone over the line. I'm trying to figure out how this can come out well at all. It can't just end one episode and then go back to status quo after all this. His friendship with Wilson, esp.


You can if this is all a "dream" occuring while he is sedated for surgery after being shot in the previous season finale or something along those lines.

Perk, surely the writers of "House" would not stoop to the level of "Dallas." This is not TV-for-idiots, like much programming has been.

You can if this is all a "dream" occuring while he is sedated for surgery after being shot in the previous season finale or something along those lines.

That's what I think, the whole season is a dream!

That's what I think, the whole season is a dream!

In a way, I almost hope so even though it would be a cheap shot.

House as a character has gone from brilliant but eccentric to downright nasty. I get that he is in pain and in withdrawal from vicodin. More than once, however, he as crossed the line. Even Wilson has realized that at this point.

Dr. Gregory House is not a good person. Is that judgement too harsh? (Aside from the two obvious considerations: 1. We're talking about a fictional character; 2. Actual judgement of whether we are "good" or "evil" is not really our purview.) For the sake of this fictional show, I contend the writers have given us a reprehensible main character. But they've given us great storytelling, and have shown consequences for actions taken by the characters. I enjoy the show; I would not appreciate the cop-out of a "dream season" to avoid some of the obvious negative consequences headed towards the principles in this story.

Dr. Gregory House is not a good person. Is that judgement too harsh? ...

I don't think that we have really seen much to show us that House actually is a good person, so no, I don't think that judgment is too harsh. Then again, he did "the right thing" by deciding not to wreck the marriage of his former girlfriend. I'm sure there are other examples of him doing the right thing as well.

He tries to heal people. But does he do this because he is a good person? Or does he do it to try to prove his superiority?

Dr. Gregory House is not a good person...
Why??? Because he's more interested in saving lives than being politically correct? Because he has a drug problem, albeit one that allows him to do his job? Because he's not "Prescious Moments figures" sweet in times of crisis? Because he tells it like it is without regret? Because he has a sharp and dry sense of humor? Because he has a handicap that impairs his ability to be delightful every minute of every day? Because he distances himself from others because he doesn't want to drag them into his dispair? Because he believes in himself?

House has done probably 2-3 things that I'd deem outright wrong, while at the same time, has done hundreds of things as a means to an end that I would deem worthy of respect. (Perhaps not necessarily likeable, but respectable.)

Personally, I think there's a little bit of House in everyone, hence the popularity of the show and character.

It must be somewhat difficult writing for this show. You can't have House cured of his pain because then you would lose a lot of what makes House House so the only way you can have a meaningful emotional movement within the character is to make him even meaner/more cynical during the begining of the season and then bring him back to only semi-mean/semi-cynical toward the end.

Anyone every notice the similarties between House and Sherlock Holmes?

Both of the characters had/have a drug addiction
One's closest confidant is named Dr.Watson , the other Dr.Wilson
Holmes and House are just a couple letters different
They both like to play music
Should I keep going on?

Why??? Because he's more interested in saving lives than being politically correct? Because he has a drug problem, albeit one that allows him to do his job? Because he's not "Prescious Moments figures" sweet in times of crisis? Because he tells it like it is without regret? Because he has a sharp and dry sense of humor? Because he has a handicap that impairs his ability to be delightful every minute of every day? Because he distances himself from others because he doesn't want to drag them into his dispair? Because he believes in himself?

House has done probably 2-3 things that I'd deem outright wrong, while at the same time, has done hundreds of things as a means to an end that I would deem worthy of respect. (Perhaps not necessarily likeable, but respectable.)

Personally, I think there's a little bit of House in everyone, hence the popularity of the show and character.
I agree, House doesn't need to be a good person to do his job, it's a trait that adds no benefit to solving the problem at hand. When he does actually visit the patient, it's usually to look for some nuance that his crew has overlooked, or, more importantly, to determine if the patient is lying, something his crew doesn't have a handle on.

If I had some mysterious disease, House would be the guy I'd want on my case, I don't care what sort of A-hole he may be or what sort of drug addiction he has, he has a proven track record of being right despite his demeanor or physical issues.

Besides, they are millions of 100% functional addicts all across this country. The pharmaceutical companies in this country practically insure that there is an addict of some sort in every home, it's the American way.

Perk, surely the writers of "House" would not stoop to the level of "Dallas." This is not TV-for-idiots, like much programming has been.

Maybe not (and I almost hope not), but that's still my theory at this point. It does seem to fit a few of the details that I have wondered about... Such as:

why this season opener appeared to take place much later down the road with little mention of his surgery, recovery and other issues resulting from the shooting. The seeming lack of concern over his initial reports of the pain in his leg returning, and last but not least, after the statment he made to Cuddy this week, punching Chase, being at least partially responsible for Wilson closing his practice etc, House is turning into someone that most people would find reprehensible, addiction or no addiction. They have to find a "clean" way to "take back" most of what has occured recently. I really do think this is either a dream or some sort of brain activity occuring while House is in a coma or something like that.

Time will tell... either way, the writers have us all wondering what is going to come next, which is EXACTLY what they want us to do.

Great show!!!

He tries to heal people. But does he do this because he is a good person? Or does he do it to try to prove his superiority?
Rob, you've reminded me of one of the great movie characters: Dr. Frederick Treves, portrayed by Anthony Hopkins in "The Elephant Man." At one point, Treves is pondering what he has done for and with John Merrick. Mr. Merrick is having guests, many of whom seem to be curiousity hounds. Treves wonders if he's exploiting Merrick like the carnival boss before, and asks simply, "Am I a good man, or a bad man?"

Why??? Because he's more interested in saving lives than being politically correct? Because he has a drug problem, albeit one that allows him to do his job? Because he's not "Prescious Moments figures" sweet in times of crisis? Because he tells it like it is without regret? Because he has a sharp and dry sense of humor? Because he has a handicap that impairs his ability to be delightful every minute of every day? Because he distances himself from others because he doesn't want to drag them into his dispair? Because he believes in himself?
Great post, Spyder. Since you were replying to my contention that Dr. House is not a good person, I want to give your post thorough consideration:

-- Interested in saving lives: This is noble and good. No disagreement.
-- Not politically correct: This is also good, as political correctness is typically nonsensical.
-- He has a drug problem: This is a signifcant problem, because even though his addiction is not to an illegal drug, it is something for which he very clearly does not want help. He does not want to overcome the addiction. He's merely human for having become addicted to the pain medication, but he's weak for not wanting to overcome that.
-- His addiction allows him to do his job: He's functional, but I reject the idea that he's better/clearer in his analysis as a result of his addiction.
-- He's not sweet/he tells it like it is/he has a dry wit/he has a handicap: None of these have bearing on a determination of how good a person he may be.
-- He distances himself from others because he doesn't want to drag them into his despair: I disagree with this assessment of his motives. He distances himself by his thoughtlessness and hateful behavior, but I doubt he's protecting them.

Consider House's behavior relative to Wilson: He took Wilson's prescription pad and forged his signature. When this caused Wilson real hardship, and when Wilson accepted the hardship to protect House, how did House respond? Not one hint of gratitude; open hostility and lack of caring for Wilson's hardships. No good ends would be sought by such means. It's just a reflection on House's character.

Anyone every notice the similarties between House and Sherlock Holmes?

Both of the characters had/have a drug addiction
One's closest confidant is named Dr.Watson , the other Dr.Wilson
Holmes and House are just a couple letters different
They both like to play music
Should I keep going on?

you do know that was intentional don't you? Even to the point where House has the same apartment number of 221b.

you do know that was intentional don't you? Even to the point where House has the same apartment number of 221b.


Never noticed that. Good stuff.

I don't get how House can be considered bad because he is physically addicted to pain meds. There are many, many people that have no choice but to take narcotic pain meds every day to treat their pain. By all accounts House's condition would put him into that group.

I don't get how House can be considered bad because he is physically addicted to pain meds. There are many, many people that have no choice but to take narcotic pain meds every day to treat their pain. By all accounts House's condition would put him into that group.
I don't either, there's only one person that knows for sure the intensity of the pain they are having and that's the person with the pain. If House needs X-amount of Vicodin to ease the pain, then so be it. There are people addicted to Prozac, they have to have it to function "normally" everyday. If House wasn't taking Vicodin, he'd be taking something else, whatever it would take for him to function normally.

Is Tritter's issue that House wrote false scripts, or that he is taking the Vicodin in the first place? If the first, he's within his legal boundaries to do something about it, if it's the second, it's none of his business.

For me, it's not whether House is a good or bad person. It's whether his humanity is evident enough for him to be somewhat sympathetic to the viewer. If he's disturbed, addicted, or heartbroken, it helps if the viewer can understand the motivations beyond whether he hurts someone or not.

Too many times this season, he goes for mean/hurtful with no clear motivation. There is no good reason for him to treat Wilson this way. It's actually counter to the character we have observed in previous seasons. There was always an underlying decency. Now, we have a character that is difficult to root for. And the pointing the laser through the glass, not to mention the cleavage, was bordering on the ridiculous. I'm hoping it's a dream just so I don't have to accept the outlandish actions and storylines as somewhat realistic fiction.

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Is Tritter's issue that House wrote false scripts, or that he is taking the Vicodin in the first place? If the first, he's within his legal boundaries to do something about it, if it's the second, it's none of his business.

That's the million dollar question for me: what exactly is Tritter's motive? If it was just the incident in the clinic, then I'd say Tritter just needs to loosen up. He has taken personal offense to a new level of abuse of power.

I'm hoping for a "big reveal". A backstory where Tritter's visit to the clinic was no accident, but related to maybe one of House's cases in the past that went sour. Tritter is a friend, brother, or whatever of a patient who was somehow harmed or otherwise wronged.

You can if this is all a "dream" occuring while he is sedated for surgery after being shot in the previous season finale or something along those lines.

That makes no sense at all, considering they've already DONE that - in the last episode of Season 2. It'd be utterly ridiculous and stupid.

Is Tritter's issue that House wrote false scripts, or that he is taking the Vicodin in the first place? If the first, he's within his legal boundaries to do something about it, if it's the second, it's none of his business.

Don't kid yourself. Tritter's whole issue is the fact that House put something in Tritter's rectum! :eek: ;)

Is Tritter's issue that House wrote false scripts, or that he is taking the Vicodin in the first place? If the first, he's within his legal boundaries to do something about it, if it's the second, it's none of his business.

I thought he was after House for leaving the thermometer up his .....

The whole false scripts thing is something Tritter could latch onto to cause House a lot of grief.

I agree. Imagine if House had been on the receiving end of that temperature reading. Wouldn't he do everything in his power to get back at the person who did it to him? Remember, this is the guy who broke into the private records of an ex so he could see if she still had the hots for him. One could say that House is getting a taste of his own medicine ....

Anyone think there is a chance that Tritter will at some point end up arresting the guy who shot house at the end of last season?

Don't kid yourself. Tritter's whole issue is the fact that House put something in Tritter's rectum! :eek: ;)
Yes, but that's not a basis for him to take legal action against House. It gave him the impetus to go after House, but the question is what charges is he actually trying to get House on, the scripts, or the use of the drug itself? My contention is that he can only go after him on the scripts. Which per Wilson's actions in the last episode would indicate it's the scripts but there was discussion about House's use of the pills themselves, which Tritter would have no legal business getting involved in.

There's no question House is addicted to Vicodin, but the question that needs to be asked is House acting rougher than normal(missing the diag on the little girl) because he's going through withdrawal, or is it because the pain is increasing in intensity because he's not getting the medicine he needs to keep it at bay? Probably a combination of both, but both are worse than the condition he's normally in when he has the pills so what do you do short of cutting his leg off? As long as he has the leg he's going to use some sort of pain killer, and the amount used can really only be determined by the person who has the pain.

I agree with others here who have mentioned that they hope the resolution to this plot is not something like House saving Tritter's life, I hope it delves a bit more intelligently into the use/addiction of pain medication and it's ramifications. IOW, I hope the writers don't take the easy way out.

P.S. On the thermometer thing, how does Tritter know that the rectal method was not an accepted diagnosis procedure for his condition? Is Tritter upset about the act, or the attitude that went with it? If it was the attitude, then Tritter should go pound sound..err..or thermometers as it were.. :p

^ Well said Keenen. My comments were said somewhat tongue in cheek. I agree with your analysis. Tritter seems to be motivated by factors other than having the thermometer stuck up his butt..

P.S. On the thermometer thing, how does Tritter know that the rectal method was not an accepted diagnosis procedure for his condition? Is Tritter upset about the act, or the attitude that went with it? If it was the attitude, then Tritter should go pound sound..err..or thermometers as it were.. :p
House's attitude set Tritter off. But the incident with the thermometer wasn't that House used a rectal thermometer, but that he left it in there, and vacated the room! Tritter had to seek someone else's assistance in removing the thermometer, which had to be a bit humiliating.

^ Well said Keenen. My comments were said somewhat tongue in cheek. I agree with your analysis. Tritter seems to be motivated by factors other than having the thermometer stuck up his butt..
Yes, I got the tongue in cheek part. Sorry if I didn't say as much in the other post. :D

House's attitude set Tritter off. But the incident with the thermometer wasn't that House used a rectal thermometer, but that he left it in there, and vacated the room! Tritter had to seek someone else's assistance in removing the thermometer, which had to be a bit humiliating.
Could be, but don't nurses usually handle thermometer duties anyways? Besides, couldn't he just pull it out himself?

I don't think the thermometer really has anything to do with it, Tritter saw House pop a pill and that along with the attitude is what set Tritter off.

I though last night episode was great, but did anybody notice the cheesy Bose headphone product placement? Like House would listen to Triports.

"Three Stories" is one of my top 5 favorite episodes. :)

I'd LOVE to have House as a professor.

That was a repeat last night, right? I didn't see it....

That was a repeat last night, right? I didn't see it....

It was a repeat.

That was a repeat last night, right? I didn't see it....
Yes, it was, it was a repeat of "Three Stories", which won an Emmy didn't it?

Great episode.

Sorry for such a newbie question, but which season did "Three Stories" come from and which season are we currently in?

Great episode. Sorry for such a newbie question, but which season did "Three Stories" come from and which season are we currently in?

This episode is from the first season and originally aired the week before the season finale in May 2005. It would have to be considered one of the best clip shows ever if it was a clip show, but it was not. The three stories were not from any previous episodes. They were past cases that House had worked on.

We are currently enjoying Season 3.

Hugh Laurie has to win a whole bunch of Emmys. If you compare the range of acting between Blackadder and House, it is just remarkable. Paraphrasing the guy on the ad, very remarkable, very, very remarkable.

A little more about this episode. David Shore won the 2005 Emmy for writing the "Three Stories" script.

A little more about this episode. David Shore won the 2005 Emmy for writing the "Three Stories" script.
I thought so, the episode was so good the fact that Carmen Electra guest starred as herself was..eh..no big deal.

Definitely my favorite House episode ever. Just an amazing episode...I marked out like a kid when I realized one of the cases was House himself.

Yeah, I'm sure Carmen Electra being in it has nothing to do with why many of us liked this episode. lol

Do you guys know that Hugh Laurie wrote a book? Its a James Bond type of book called The Gun Seller. I plan on picking it up and reading it.

I can't believe that I had never seen the Three Stories episode.

Definitely one of the best ever, not to mention the most enlightening! All this time my wife and I had been in the dark. We just couldn't figure out why he blamed his ex for his leg. Now it all makes so much sense!

If you'd never seen the "Three Stories" episode, it's easy to see why you'd think House was just a simple addict with an attitude. If you've seen every single episode from the very first run of the very first show and then watched them again and again like I have, you know there's much more to his character and his addiction. It also helps if you've ever been in severe pain (i.e., more than an abcessed tooth or broken bone), or live with dehabilitating and chronic pain as well.

Three Stories is by far my favorite House episode ever.

Wow, some good discussions going on. I'll give my two-cents:

1. House doesn't necessarily take Wilson for granted. Remember, everytime Wilson bites the dust in the women department, House is there for him. This has been said multiple times throughout the series. Don't get me wrong, House could be nicer, but that just isn't him, and Wilson knows that.

2. I'm a little confused over the jurisdiction Tritter has. He has been seen going into the hospital's labs to interrogate someone. Does the hospital (Cuddy) not have any rights what-so-ever? I mean, the guy isn't FBI or CIA, he's a regular detective, and it seems he has an all-access pass to the hospital.

3. And with what little evidence Tritter has, is that enough to freeze people's accounts? I can understand him being able to freeze House's accounts, but everyone elses? That just seems a little far-fetched that a judge would order that.

And once again, Morse does a great job with this character, but, it's starting to get a little old. The writers should have made this a simple 3-episode arc, because it's starting to get on my nerves a little.

Best episode of the season tonight!

"Wanna go for a spin?" :D

Well, tonight we got to see the real Tritter. Basically he's an ***hole.

I'd love to see House hook up with the mother from this episode, they would make an interesting pair. She could give as good as she got.

Well, tonight we got to see the real Tritter. Basically he's an ***hole.




That's what I was thinking.

If there were any question as to Tritter's motives, we can put that to rest now.

That being said, how likely would it have been to agree to Wilson's deal in the first place. Guess the writers took us for a spin. :D

Well, tonight we got to see the real Tritter. Basically he's an ***hole.

I'd love to see House hook up with the mother from this episode, they would make an interesting pair. She could give as good as she got.

It would make for a good "spin off" series with Denny Crane and Dr House:)

Or maybe House can hire Denny Crane to be his lawyer.

Or maybe they are thinking about spinning off Tritter as an **shole detective.

It would make for a good "spin off" series with Denny Crane and Dr House:)

Or maybe House can hire Denny Crane to be his lawyer.

Or hire "Hands". :)

I agree that this was a great episode. I loved the little tit-for-tat style banter between House and the mom and thought it was great when the daughter was shocked at what her mom was saying!

This whole Tritter thing is strange to me. I would hope that in real life, people would not be that crass as to want to take everyone down such as Wilson for saying that he would not go on the stand against House and Tritter telling him that his statement would be used in a trial anyway and they would both go to jail.

Did anyone else think that the grief that Wilson was getting from the other doctors was a bit misplaced? I'm sure they wouldn't jeapordize their medical practice for House.

While I liked the episode I was actually dissapointed that in the end, House gave in and went to take the deal, it kind of ruined my image of House. He basically lost, and the cop won. So the cop is allowed to freeze accounts (don't see how this is possible), suspend a doctors license (again, not possible), etc. and House just gives in and takes the deal, ruined it for me. I wanted House to stick it to that cop, to win in the end.

I love this show. House is the least sympathetic leading character ever in a TV show. His only redeeming quality is the ability to eventually come up with the correct diagnosis to some obscure disease. He deserves all the bad things that happen to him, because he brings them upon himself.

What makes the show so watchable, though, is how Hugh Laurie makes House so human, with vulnerabilities beneath his abrasive exterior.

...

I wanted House to stick it to that cop, to win in the end.

I bet he eventually does. ...and it'll be something like Tigger gets a fatal illness that no one else can figure out.

Or

This whole season will have been a dream sequence since the gun shot episode.

While I liked the episode I was actually dissapointed that in the end, House gave in and went to take the deal, it kind of ruined my image of House. He basically lost, and the cop won. So the cop is allowed to freeze accounts (don't see how this is possible), suspend a doctors license (again, not possible), etc. and House just gives in and takes the deal, ruined it for me. I wanted House to stick it to that cop, to win in the end.

Are you kidding? He wasn't "giving in" to Tritter. Do you not remember that he was found by Wilson on the floor, with vomit running down the side of his face? He obviously finally realized that he has a drug problem and needs help. Thus the agreement to take the "deal", which involved a rehab program. This he was doing for himself, not Tritter.

Enjoyed last nights episode but...

I hope they stop the practice of having the doctor figure out what's wrong with the patient due to some off-hand comment toward the end of the episode.

"Dr.House, did you here that my friend got a pet elephant?"

"No I didn't hear tha..... wait a second ..... It all makes sense .... Our patient has a rare form of the amazonian-yellow-elephant disease!"

Great show though. Any chance that during the upcoming trial we will see some of House's old patients appear to speak towards his defence?

Sorry, I erased the episode off the DVR after watching...can anyone tell me the name on the bottle of pills shown at the end? (NOT the name of the pills themselves, which was quite obviously OxyContin, but the name of the patient that the pills were originally for.)

Also, can anyone see the dosage (in mg) on the bottle during the brief shot? Thanks. :)

Enjoyed last nights episode but...

I hope they stop the practice of having the doctor figure out what's wrong with the patient due to some off-hand comment toward the end of the episode.

"Dr.House, did you here that my friend got a pet elephant?"

"No I didn't hear tha..... wait a second ..... It all makes sense .... Our patient has a rare form of the amazonian-yellow-elephant disease!"

Great show though. Any chance that during the upcoming trial we will see some of House's old patients appear to speak towards his defence?

I do agree with this. I particularly noticed it last night, since it seemed that this was about the third episode in a row in which that kind of "jogging of the memory" resulted in finding the correct diagnosis.

Sorry, I erased the episode off the DVR after watching...can anyone tell me the name on the bottle of pills shown at the end? (NOT the name of the pills themselves, which was quite obviously OxyContin, but the name of the patient that the pills were originally for.)

Also, can anyone see the dosage (in mg) on the bottle during the brief shot? Thanks. :)

Spyder, the name on the bottle was that of Wilson's dead patient - it's the bottle House signed for at the pharmacy, which is the same incident to which the cop referred at the end of the episode when he said he no longer had the deal on the table. I don't recall the doseage, but I bet someone with a recording will set everything straight.

Enjoyed last nights episode but...

I hope they stop the practice of having the doctor figure out what's wrong with the patient due to some off-hand comment toward the end of the episode.

"Dr.House, did you here that my friend got a pet elephant?"

"No I didn't hear tha..... wait a second ..... It all makes sense .... Our patient has a rare form of the amazonian-yellow-elephant disease!"

Great show though. Any chance that during the upcoming trial we will see some of House's old patients appear to speak towards his defence?
This has been a part of the formula of the show since I can remember. It was usually a patient from clinic duty that always triggered the revelation.

Ep was good. The whole thing with Tritter has become weak. Doesn't he have real crimes to solve? I would have been satisfied with House going to rehab, to end the episode and starting clean to begin the episodes next year.

We know that House isn't going to jail, then there would not be a TV show. The only way to resolve this now is for Tritter to get flesh eating disease, ignore House's orignal diagnosis, then come back begging for help and House has to amputate his arms and legs. :D

We know that House isn't going to jail, then there would not be a TV show. The only way to resolve this now is for Tritter to get flesh eating disease, ignore House's orignal diagnosis, then come back begging for help and House has to amputate his arms and legs. :D

Or perhaps some sort of colon disease so House has so shove something larger than a thermometer up Tritter's As...

I also agree, this whole Tritter thing is getting old.

I think we just saw the best episode of the season, but people are saying the Tritter thing is getting old. :confused:

House is an addict. I think everyone can agree on that. He is holding patients lives ransom to get his fix and in the end everyone is playing along. I particularly liked it last week when Wilson finally grew a pair and was going to testify. I hated it this week when he caved yet again. His character seems to have no character. All of House's staff seem determined to keep him out of jail yet keep helping him get pills. Not sure where the story line will lead but a stint in rehab would be really interesting as it would give House some interesting cases to solve but not have the staff to actually do anything. We are slowly gaining insight into his character but so far there isn't anything redeeming about him...and isn't that what makes a great story, redemption?

I think we just saw the best episode of the season, but people are saying the Tritter thing is getting old. :confused:

I feel the same way about the "Tritter" character as I did about the "New Boss" from seasons past (Chi McBride.) Perhaps, in order to make "House" more sympathetic, the writers feel the need to have a character even more obnoxious than "House." Breaks up the solve the mystery formula?? :)

I also thought it was a very good, if not the best, ep of the season. Usual good lines (to Omar Epps "House, you've tanned"). Glad to see House not just give in to either Cuddy, Wilson or Tritter, though he should have in reality and does try in the end. But it took the Oxy overdose to do it.

While a good story line, it is time to wrap up the Tritter thing. It seems like they are heading for court based on House's false signing of the Rx for the dead patient. They've made the point about Tritter and House's near-equivalent determination not to yield (Det. immovable force meet Dr. irresitable object) and need to settle it, cleverly I hope. They also seem to be indicating that the seeminly bottomless well of sympathy by Wilson for House may have reached its conclusion, when Wilson walked out while House was OD'd on the floor. And isn't feisty little Cameron becoming a firecracker?

Last, to the poster suggesting House is the least sympathetic lead on TV - how about Tony Soprano or Vic Mackey (The Shield)? There are others as well.

Are you kidding? He wasn't "giving in" to Tritter. Do you not remember that he was found by Wilson on the floor, with vomit running down the side of his face? He obviously finally realized that he has a drug problem and needs help. Thus the agreement to take the "deal", which involved a rehab program. This he was doing for himself, not Tritter.

That was part of it, they made him get to that point. Would of been better if he did a detox himself or something so he could then go after Tritter, but they made it that he lost and had to give in, he should of been able to overcome it. But I guess this way it makes him more human or something.

Spyder, the name on the bottle was that of Wilson's dead patient - it's the bottle House signed for at the pharmacy, which is the same incident to which the cop referred at the end of the episode when he said he no longer had the deal on the table. I don't recall the doseage, but I bet someone with a recording will set everything straight.

I know WHO the Rx was for, but I want the ACTUAL NAME of the dead guy. (If someone provides it for me, I will gladly divulge why and of what relevence it has to the story.) Also, anyone with a copy of the episode still intact, I am looking for the dosage amount (in mg per pill) that should have been printed on the OxyContin bottle with the name. Thanks on advance to anyone with this info!

Well, the name of the patient was Zebalusky. I don't recall the dosage of the Oxy though.

House is an addict. I think everyone can agree on that.
I don't think it is that cut and dry. Yes, he may be addicted to the opiates but if he cannot function without them because of severe pain then what does it matter?

Let's just say that he goes to rehab and he rids himself of the chemical addiction to opiates. If after that he is in agonizing pain that makes him completely unable to function then what has anyone gained?

The end result is that he would have to go back on opiates to alleviate the pain and then everyone is right back where they started. It's not clear why everyone on the show and even on the boards assumes that House only needs the opiates because he is addicted.

I just don't understand what the problem is if a person is addicted to something that they need anyway. If a person was addicted to air would that be a bad thing that he needed to be cured of?

Last, to the poster suggesting House is the least sympathetic lead on TV - how about Tony Soprano or Vic Mackey (The Shield)? There are others as well.

Vic Mackey and Tony Soprano I think are more "ends justify the means" kind of guys - a lot of times they have noble intentions (providing for their families, standing up for their crew), whereas House is pretty much a miserable selfish bastard.

Vic Mackey and Tony Soprano I think are more "ends justify the means" kind of guys - a lot of times they have noble intentions (providing for their families, standing up for their crew), whereas House is pretty much a miserable selfish bastard. But a funny, miserable selfish bastard. :D

Vic Mackey and Tony Soprano I think are more "ends justify the means" kind of guys - a lot of times they have noble intentions (providing for their families, standing up for their crew), whereas House is pretty much a miserable selfish bastard.
And Tony Soprano isn't? House at least saves lives that would have been lost without him. I think that most people would put up with being talked down to for a short time if it meant that they would live.

Actually, I think that the female investigators (along with Wolfe) on the CSI shows are the least sympathetic on TV.

House is an addict. I think everyone can agree on that. He is holding patients lives ransom to get his fix and in the end everyone is playing along. I particularly liked it last week when Wilson finally grew a pair and was going to testify. I hated it this week when he caved yet again. His character seems to have no character. All of House's staff seem determined to keep him out of jail yet keep helping him get pills. Not sure where the story line will lead but a stint in rehab would be really interesting as it would give House some interesting cases to solve but not have the staff to actually do anything. We are slowly gaining insight into his character but so far there isn't anything redeeming about him...and isn't that what makes a great story, redemption?


Hmm, in this episode, it was Cuddy and Wilson that held a patients life hostage, not House.

Cuddy said something along the line of "I'd rather lose one patient then the ten if House went to jail."

Also, not all of House's staff is willing to give him pills. Cameron blatantly refused to give House any.

To me, she's become the most interesting character, besides House. Give her a bad leg, and she'll become him.

I don't think it is that cut and dry. Yes, he may be addicted to the opiates but if he cannot function without them because of severe pain then what does it matter?

Let's just say that he goes to rehab and he rids himself of the chemical addiction to opiates. If after that he is in agonizing pain that makes him completely unable to function then what has anyone gained?

The end result is that he would have to go back on opiates to alleviate the pain and then everyone is right back where they started. It's not clear why everyone on the show and even on the boards assumes that House only needs the opiates because he is addicted.

I just don't understand what the problem is if a person is addicted to something that they need anyway. If a person was addicted to air would that be a bad thing that he needed to be cured of?

If House actually needed the opiates to control his pain due to a medical condition as he states over and over then he would have a diagnosis that states such and a legit prescription and he wouldn't have any issues. Unless I missed something it has never been established that he medically NEEDS the opiates other than the fact that HE says he needs them....and that is what an addict would say.

For those of you saying House is simply an addict scumbag...do you even watch the show??? :confused:

Do you know that he almost died from the pain in his leg and had to be put in an induced coma just to deal with it? Or that he was completely med-free before the operation?

Have you thought that he could have sued the hospital for millions for f*ing up the diagnosis and never had to work again, yet instead uses that as leverage to save countless lives that could not otherwise be saved?

If House just wants the high, why is he carrying around time-released pills that simply dull pain over the course of the day as opposed to a syringe that could give him that immediate rush?

Sorry, but those that are continually casting stones might want to take a step back and look at the reality of the situation. As someone that has been through a similar ordeal as House, I wouldn't wish the pain I experienced on my worst enemies, let alone anyone else. I would have paid someone to kill me before my operation. The thought of "just suck it up and deal with it" paired with an incredible tolerence for pain nearly cost me the ability to ever walk again. Even after years of rehab, I'll deal with chronic pain for the rest of my days on Earth. I don't take pills to deal with it on a regular basis, but for the 4-5 days per year I need meds, I take them. To those that think "addicts" are lowlife, unsympathetic, immoral, waste-of-life people, I say...enjoy the view from your ivory tower, count your blessings, and pray that you never, ever have to experience anything to make you change your mind.

Sure, House is a self-righteous, condescending ass, but it's been established that he was that way long before he started being forced to take meds. His supposed "addiction" is not the entire content of his character, rather, it is simply a blemish upon his soul, an impairment of his being, a tangible expression of his fear. House fears pain, either emotional, or physical, thus the hoarding of pills, along with his intentional distancing of himself from any true emotional attachments. Personally, I think he's the most real, complex, and complete charater ever to be on TV.

Side note: House, judging by the pill shape, size, color, and markings of the pills he had in the show, he had the smallest strength (20mg dose/pill) of OxyContin available, leading me to believe it's possible it wasn't just an overdose, but an alergic reation, or a combination of both:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/spyderswebphotos/180px-Oxycont.jpg

Unless I missed something it has never been established that he
medically NEEDS the opiates other than the fact that HE says he needs them....and that is what an addict would say.
You did miss something. The previous episode which was a rerun from season 1 detailed his condition and why he is in constant pain.

You did miss something. The previous episode which was a rerun from season 1 detailed his condition and why he is in constant pain.

Actually I didn't miss that episode. I know why he is constant pain. I'll stand by my prior note unless you have some new information. He is an addict.

Actually I didn't miss that episode. I know why he is constant pain. I'll stand by my prior note unless you have some new information. He is an addict.
No question he is an addict, just like people who take Prozac, blood pressure medicine and drink coffee. The question is whether his addiction is due to pyschlogical factors, or to a physiological problem. In House's case, I would say it's the latter, there's no question he has pain, and even if that pain is somehow manifested only in his brain, it's still a physiological problem.

He seems to function quite well when he's taking the Vicodin, it's when he's not is when things seem to go off the tracks. There's millions of 100% functional addicts all across this country, and House seems to be one of them.

Actually I didn't miss that episode. I know why he is constant pain. I'll stand by my prior note unless you have some new information. He is an addict.
I never said that he wasn't addicted. My point is that his addiction isn't the only reason he needs the opiates.

Why do you think he started taking the medication in the first place? The previous episode that you are hand waving away went into detail about why he is in intense pain. He even asked to be put into a chemically induced coma to help him get through the pain. Do you think he asked for this just because he was addicted to comas?

Cuddy was hoping that the procedure would be a good middle ground where he would lose part of his leg but be pain free - ends up that he was not pain free after the procedure so he got the worst of both worlds.

In last night's episode Wilson told House that he did fine without the pills for months after his shooting. House then replied that was because he wasn't in pain during that time.

Also, in the early episodes of this season, it clearly showed House dealing with a lot of pain even though he has a unlimited supply of Vicodon at that time.

He is stubborn and doesn't want to have to go see another doctor to get a diagnosis that he already knows. If he went to another doctor, they would put him through useless tests that House would reject as being a waste of time. The first thing another doctor would probably do is take him off of meds and see what happens. House doesn't want to go through that.

The whole reason why he is even in the situation with his leg and the constant pain is because the doctors thought he just wanted drugs and misdiagnosed his condition.

The issue wasn't with the size of pills he was taking, it was the mixing of alcohol and lord knows how many pills he took, as he was popping throughout the entire episode once he got the Oxycontin.

I never said that he wasn't addicted. My point is that his addiction isn't the only reason he needs the opiates.

Why do you think he started taking the medication in the first place? The previous episode that you are hand waving away went into detail about why he is in intense pain. He even asked to be put into a chemically induced coma to help him get through the pain. Do you think he asked for this just because he was addicted to comas?

Cuddy was hoping that the procedure would be a good middle ground where he would lose part of his leg but be pain free - ends up that he was not pain free after the procedure so he got the worst of both worlds.

In last night's episode Wilson told House that he did fine without the pills for months after his shooting. House then replied that was because he wasn't in pain during that time.

Also, in the early episodes of this season, it clearly showed House dealing with a lot of pain even though he has a unlimited supply of Vicodon at that time.

He is stubborn and doesn't want to have to go see another doctor to get a diagnosis that he already knows. If he went to another doctor, they would put him through useless tests that House would reject as being a waste of time. The first thing another doctor would probably do is take him off of meds and see what happens. House doesn't want to go through that.

The whole reason why he is even in the situation with his leg and the constant pain is because the doctors thought he just wanted drugs and misdiagnosed his condition.

Addicts will say anything to get their drugs. It's not clear what to believe when House speaks. If House has a legitimate pain issue that is a medical issue he could get a script and all would be well. Yes, I'll grant he is in a lot of pain and needs medication to control it. Lots of people take meds every day to control their pain issues. The fact he is stubborn and doesn't want to go see another doctor to get a diagnosis leading to a legit script is what has caused all this. Whether or not he has a script he is physically addicted to his opiate thus putting his patients in danger inspite of his brilliance. Would you let a doctor treat you if you knew he was an addict and insulted you like House?

Addicts will say anything to get their drugs. It's not clear what to believe when House speaks. If House has a legitimate pain issue that is a medical issue he could get a script and all would be well. Yes, I'll grant he is in a lot of pain and needs medication to control it. Lots of people take meds every day to control their pain issues. The fact he is stubborn and doesn't want to go see another doctor to get a diagnosis leading to a legit script is what has caused all this. Whether or not he has a script he is physically addicted to his opiate thus putting his patients in danger inspite of his brilliance. Would you let a doctor treat you if you knew he was an addict and insulted you like House?

If he was the best in his field (which the character in the show is), and my life was in danger? Of course.

The only times that House has come close to failure while doing his job is when he is in pain/withdrawl and not taking pain meds. It seems to me that House is near perfect at saving lives while taking vicodin.

Excellent episode. One thing I didn't quite understand: When House picked up the prescription which was for the dead man--he told the pharmacist that the patient had died. Why was he given the pills of a dead man?

House didn't tell the pharmacist that the patient had died. He said something to the effect that the patient was dying from pain.

House didn't tell the pharmacist that the patient had died. He said something to the effect that the patient was dying from pain.


Thanks. I misunderstood.

Spyder, they very carefully did not show a dosage. (or anything resembling a brand or pharmacy name) I'm not even sure it was printed on the label, but Wilson's hand also covered the last quarter inch or so. "Take as needed. Not to exceed 4 per day", 30 count, that's about it. But wouldn't 30 of 20mg be enough for an OD? Cause he popped them all within a few hours.

I know WHO the Rx was for, but I want the ACTUAL NAME of the dead guy. (If someone provides it for me, I will gladly divulge why and of what relevence it has to the story.) Also, anyone with a copy of the episode still intact, I am looking for the dosage amount (in mg per pill) that should have been printed on the OxyContin bottle with the name. Thanks on advance to anyone with this info!

The patient's name was Larry Zebalusky and it did not have a dosage on the bottle, it was labeled:
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Larry Zebalusky
Dr. James Wilson
Take as
Needed, Not to exceed
4 per day
Oxycodone qty:30
Refills: 0
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It's possible there was some more print on the right side of the label, but it was hidden by Wilson's thumb when he held and read the pill bottle at House's apt.

They also showed the label when house popped them on top of the monitor in Abigails room and it did not show a dosage.

Hmmmm. The pills that House was taking were of the 10mg variety (see previous page for image), since you can clearly see they are round and that there are no markings on the pill as House presents it to the girl and her mom while explaining the growth hormone disorder. 30 pills X 10mg = only 300mg in the entire bottle. Patients are often given two 160mg tablets per day, which comes out to 320mg, which is more than House took. OxyContin is also only used for opiate-tolerant patients, which House qualifies as being. However, OxyContin uses oxycodone rather than hydrocodone, common to Vicodin. House frequently breaks or chews his Vicodin tablets, which is fine, but when done with OxyContin, it breaks the bonding agent, and releases too much oxycodone into the bloodstream too quickly for the body to absorb safely. Oxycodone is also 2.5-3X stronger than hydrocodone.

That said, we see House chasing the last few Oxy pills down with presumably some sort of alcohol, which, once again, he often is found doing with his Vicodin. The reaction of the alcohol mixed with the oxycodone could have casued the reaction, rather than simply the Oxy alone. However, seizures are one side-effect of OxyContin in general, and House could have simply had a reaction that anyone taking the drug might have had, regardless of dosage or history. Another factor is whether or not House, in his condition, realized that the Oxy pills were of the IR or ER variety. (IR = Instant Release, while ER = Extended Release.)

As for the patient's name, I was hoping for some subliminal and obscure reference to a real-world case in which a person had come to trial over the usage of such a drug, which could have shed some light upon the current scenario on the show. Alas, the writers failed to take such an oportunity. :(

My $.02 as someone that has suffered from Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy(RSD) for more than 12 years. One of the writers on this show is intimately familiar with chronic pain.

I think Tritter is the epitome of what most chronic pain sufferers confront continually throughout their lives. There are people out there that just do not understand there IS a difference between addiction and dependance. And it is a major one.

For those that know, if a person is addicted to Vicodin will OxyContin satisfy that addiction?

As for the patient's name, I was hoping for some subliminal and obscure reference to a real-world case in which a person had come to trial over the usage of such a drug
Well it does seem like this whole story arc is mirroring the Rush Limbaugh situation. From the previews it seems like House is going to try to go to rehab before he is charged which is exactly the what happened in that case as well.

Well it does seem like this whole story arc is mirroring the Rush Limbaugh situation. From the previews it seems like House is going to try to go to rehab before he is charged which is exactly the what happened in that case as well.
/\...except that, unlike the most self-righteous man on Earth above, House doesn't chastize people openly and at every possible opportunity, only to be caught doing the exact same thing he was so disparaging about. House has no issues with the "defectives", it's the "holier-than-thou" he condemns. ;)

I didn't say that House was a clone of Rush Limbaugh in every way - I just said that the situation is playing out the same way and has a lot of similarities. If this were Law and Order, we'd have no problems figuring out which headline that it was ripped from.

My $.02 as someone that has suffered from Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy(RSD) for more than 12 years. One of the writers on this show is intimately familiar with chronic pain.



I feel for ya. One of my best friends succumbed to this disease. She was in agony and eventually could not walk or even pick up a credit card from the severeness of the pain in her joints. It started with a broken wrist and moved to every joint in her body. She was in her early 40's. They say the pain in your joints with RSD is equivalent to a chopped off finger or limb. Many people with RSD eventually commit suicide because of the pain.

My $.02 as someone that has suffered from Reflex Sympathetic Dystrophy(RSD) for more than 12 years. One of the writers on this show is intimately familiar with chronic pain.

I think Tritter is the epitome of what most chronic pain sufferers confront continually throughout their lives. There are people out there that just do not understand there IS a difference between addiction and dependance. And it is a major one.

I sympathize with you and what you must be going thru every day...

Regarding your last two sentences....I can see being dependent on pain killers to control pain. I can also see that dependance leading to some sort of addiction be it physical or psychological. From your experience, is this disease something that a doctor can diagnose and prescribe medications for? And if so than I reiterate that House could do the same thing but chooses not to because of arrogance or stubbornness or whatever his motivation really is and his staff seems to go along with this behavior. Yes, he is in tremendous pain all the time and is brilliant and saving lives no one else could so lets feed him all the pills he needs to keep him going and when he mixes them with alcohol lets look the other way because there is yet another case that needs solving. That seems to be some of the opinons being expressed. At some point his dependence/addiction will go critical and then what?

I guess I need to remember it's just a T.V. show.

ursa

Again, I'm asking why doesn't House carry around a syringe if he's looking for that high? Why take time-released pills that simply dull pain over time instead of just shoot heroin right into his eyeballs? Why is he writing himself prescriptions for Vicodin instead of the much stronger OxyContin or something else even more powerful if he just wants to get a rush?

So tired of Tritter. They just can't decide what to make him, and it's a useless side note.

At some point his dependence/addiction will go critical and then what?
What does that "going critical" mean? I really think you have a misunderstanding of "addiction" and "dependence". From your posts, you seem to echo the Tritter's line of thought that all addictions or dependencies are bad - they're not.

If a person needs a pain reliever everyday to function then what does it matter if they develop an addiction to the medication - they'd have to take it anway. In House's case, with meds he functions at a much higher level than even a team of talented doctors and without meds the pain would cause him to go on some sort of welfare.

Millions of people are addicted to nicotine - are you saying that they should be unable to work simply because they have an addiction?

Again, I'm asking why doesn't House carry around a syringe if he's looking for that high? Why take time-released pills that simply dull pain over time instead of just shoot heroin right into his eyeballs? Why is he writing himself prescriptions for Vicodin instead of the much stronger OxyContin or something else even more powerful if he just wants to get a rush?

Thats similar to what I was trying to say earlier. To me an addict is someone that wants to get high. Thats the benefit they get from taking whatever it is they take. House with the exception of the last episode has never looked high to me.

From personal experience I can state that generally Vicodin is a much faster acting drug then Oxycontin. You take Vicodin and feel the effects soon after, with Oxycontin it can take up to an hour to start working at all and generally takes a few days to get the constant level needed established in your system to get the most benefit. I can see how House could easily take to much based on that.

I'd like to add I'm not a Doctor, Pharmacist or anything remotely close hehe. I don't even know exactly what Houses diagnosis is or what "type" of pain he has. Which would be major factors in what does and doesn't work for him. But as someone that suffers from chronic and severe pain he seems pretty believable to me, especially when dealing with something as subjective as pain. Lets face it, with out similar pain experiences to compare to it is VERY hard to articulate to someone just how much pain you may or may not be in.

What does that "going critical" mean? I really think you have a misunderstanding of "addiction" and "dependence". From your posts, you seem to echo the Tritter's line of thought that all addictions or dependencies are bad - they're not.

If a person needs a pain reliever everyday to function then what does it matter if they develop an addiction to the medication - they'd have to take it anway. In House's case, with meds he functions at a much higher level than even a team of talented doctors and without meds the pain would cause him to go on some sort of welfare.

Millions of people are addicted to nicotine - are you saying that they should be unable to work simply because they have an addiction?


Looks like we posted pretty much at the same time and I think you have some good points. If you changed your statement to read "what does it matter if they develop a dependance on the medication" I'd agree 100%

Your analogy of nicotine is a good one. I would add that in my opinion people that smoke and then quit regardless of how bad the withdrawl was and never smoke again were dependant. Smokers that quit go through all the withdrawls and whatever only to resume smoking again for whatever reason are/were addicted. Obviously its not as black and white as that and I don't want to give the impression that someone that is truly addicted can't quit if they decide to but hopefully the difference between addiction and dependance is a bit clearer now.

So tired of Tritter. They just can't decide what to make him, and it's a useless side note.


A useless side note? Hardly. Tritter is the character being used to bring House's drug issue to a head.

There is a great deal of misunderstanding here on the difference between addiction and physical dependence on a drug. It would take a great deal of explanation to be truly clear, but the bottom line is that the addict takes meds for a high and/or despite realizing that the meds are causing side issues, even harm. That is, the addict doesn't take the meds simply bcz he needs them for his pain, but rather for non-intended reactions, like a rush and he often has uncontrollable cravings along with other distinct symptoms. They take them despite physical, mental and emotional trauma caused by the meds. Thus, craving.

Dependence is simply a physical need for a medication that can reach tolerance, requiring additional dosing. Often, patients are under-prescribed for pain and begin the symptoms of "clock watching" for the next dose, doctor shop or appear to be "drug seekers". This is often bcz they are not pain-free and need the medication. THis is not the actions of addiction. There is a difference.

House is a tricky case, but he is more dependent than addicted, I think. He does not seek a rush, he seeks to function. His pain is real (as portrayed) and he may well have tolerance issues. The last show with him OD'd on the floor was an example of a person in severe pain that had been deprived of necessary medication and finally found a way to get it, but went overboard. A case could be made that House was driven to it. None of this is to suggest he doesn't have a problem and needs help. But it is not so clear cut and he is not the traditional addict, based on the accepted definitions (medical) of that term (not legal).

So tired of Tritter. They just can't decide what to make him, and it's a useless side note.

I agree. I was hoping they would wrap that up last week. They should have brought House to trial earlier if that was the ultimate goal, rather than drag out the Tritter story in bits and pieces for weeks.

From personal experience I can state that generally Vicodin is a much faster acting drug then Oxycontin. You take Vicodin and feel the effects soon after, with Oxycontin it can take up to an hour to start working at all and generally takes a few days to get the constant level needed established in your system to get the most benefit. I can see how House could easily take to much based on that.

I'd like to add I'm not a Doctor, Pharmacist or anything remotely close hehe. I don't even know exactly what Houses diagnosis is or what "type" of pain he has...

As I said earlier, there are Oxy IR and Oxy ER vairety pills. IR= Immediate Release, and ER= Extended Release. Depending upon the type, one would work either faster or slower than Vicodin.

House suffered an infarction (http://www.answers.com/infarction) which led to a severve clot and the necrosis of tissue in his leg. That tissue was removed, and, along with it, the surrounding nerve endings and receptors that the brain sends messages to in order for the function of the muscles to work properly.

Part of the problem is that people do not understand that necrosis of any tissue causes problems with not only the affected area, but also within the entire body's various systems that must make up for the deficiencies of the affliction. One would assume that dead tissue would not cause pain, what with the area being deprived of any feeling, but as someone that had severe atrophy and muscle death myself, I can tell you first-hand that is NOT the case. The only difference between House and myself is which leg was affected.

As far as the pshychological side, House could suffer from Asperger Syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome) which would explain his anti-social tendencies, along with his high IQ, none of which has anything to do with his Vicodin use, other than when he's in pain he cannot function properly. Anyone that has ever had severe pain can identify with that.

As I said earlier, there are Oxy IR and Oxy ER vairety pills. IR= Immediate Release, and ER= Extended Release. Depending upon the type, one would work either faster or slower than Vicodin.

House suffered an infarction (http://www.answers.com/infarction) which led to a severve clot and the necrosis of tissue in his leg. That tissue was removed, and, along with it, the surrounding nerve endings and receptors that the brain sends messages to in order for the function of the muscles to work properly.

Part of the problem is that people do not understand that necrosis of any tissue causes problems with not only the affected area, but also within the entire body's various systems that must make up for the deficiencies of the affliction. One would assume that dead tissue would not cause pain, what with the area being deprived of any feeling, but as someone that had severe atrophy and muscle death myself, I can tell you first-hand that is NOT the case. The only difference between House and myself is which leg was affected.

As far as the pshychological side, House could suffer from Asperger Syndrome (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asperger_syndrome) which would explain his anti-social tendencies, along with his high IQ, none of which has anything to do with his Vicodin use, other than when he's in pain he cannot function properly. Anyone that has ever had severe pain can identify with that.


Not to argue or anything but are you sure about that? I am almost certain that Oxycontin refers to Oxycodone in a time released form only. The instant release forms of Oxycodone use other names (percocet, oxyir, etc for example) or are just labeled generically as Oxycodone. That's why every prescription bottle I've ever seen for Oxycontin has that warning to the effect of "Take WHOLE. Do not chew, break, or dissolve pills." The prescription House stole said Oxycontin, which is why I assumed it was the time released form of Oxycodone.

And I can certainly identify with his poor social skills, pain tends to make you impatient and snappy :D

The only things I guess I don't understand is why he would actually choose Vicodan. Unless they are setting the stage for future problems with his liver or something down the road.

What does that "going critical" mean? I really think you have a misunderstanding of "addiction" and "dependence". From your posts, you seem to echo the Tritter's line of thought that all addictions or dependencies are bad - they're not.

If a person needs a pain reliever everyday to function then what does it matter if they develop an addiction to the medication - they'd have to take it anway. In House's case, with meds he functions at a much higher level than even a team of talented doctors and without meds the pain would cause him to go on some sort of welfare.

Millions of people are addicted to nicotine - are you saying that they should be unable to work simply because they have an addiction?

I disagree that House's dependence/addiction is O.K. because he needs to take the drugs anyway to control his pain. The issue with addiction is that it can lead to abuse, like House mixing his pills with alcohol. When it gets to this point he is not just controlling the pain but abusing the drug. Remember him in his appt with vomit on the floor and an 1/2 empty glass of liquor? Remember Cameron walking out in disgust? Uncontrolled addiction is a progressive disease and so far the writers have shown House to be progressing quite nicely.

As far as Tritter I like the fact that House has someone he can't bully to get his way. Someone he has to deal with whether he likes it or not. Tritter was written in for 6 episodes so the conclusion to this will come fairly soon.

ursa

I see it very differently. House was fully functional, not abusing when this all started. As he became more threatened he was still fine. Once his drugs were taken away, which controlled his pain btw, the pain overtook his reason. As everyone turned against him and his pain meds gone, he got to a point many people do, he got drunk -- long with the pills he O'd.

this was a situation forced on him, he did not bring it on by his use of med's. He did aggravate the situation hording pills, but I believe it was more out of a sense of loosing the thing that allowed him to function by controlling the pain -- I can't ever recall House being "high" in the past.

Remember him in his appt with vomit on the floor and an 1/2 empty glass of liquor? Remember Cameron walking out in disgust?
ursa
What episode are you referring to? Where in the timeline are you speaking of?

What episode are you referring to? Where in the timeline are you speaking of?

The episode was the last one shown...

It was Wilson who walked out in disgust. Presumably after ascertaining that House was in no danger. Although he barely looked at House. I'd say he saw all the pills in the vomit and figured House would live.

Cameron was there earlier, before he got his hands on some pills. She helped him with some withdrawal issues.

It was Wilson who walked out in disgust. Presumably after ascertaining that House was in no danger. Although he barely looked at House. I'd say he saw all the pills in the vomit and figured House would live.

Cameron was there earlier, before he got his hands on some pills. She helped him with some withdrawal issues.

Thank you, I stand corrected.

Was the woman in last night's episode, who was terrific, the same woman who played Tom Hanks' wife in Apollo 13? I have puzzled over this all day, because I know I have seen her before.

mgtr, I only watched the first episode, which I beleive was the last one from last season, so I am not sure if she was the one or not, but I looked up Apollo 13 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112384/) on www.imdb.com and then found her (Kathleen Quinlan) and clicked on her bio (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000599/) and if you look at her info, #5 is: "House M.D." .... Arlene (1 episode, 2006)

Wow, impressive quick research job! Thanks.

Wow, impressive quick research job! Thanks.

No problem. I didn't think it was fast as IMDB is one of the places I go on a regular basis!

Well, after finally re-watching the last episode, I figured out what the whole OD thing was all about for House. After he went in to supposedly take the deal, Tritter told him, "We don't need Wilson anymore...we found new evidence." (The new evidence being the fake signature of Wilson's dead patient.) House got Wilson off the hook.

If you still have the last episode, pay careful attention to how deliberate House is when he's taking the drugs.

Oh, and I also stop-froze and frame-stepped the OxyContin bottle to have it show 30 pills in all. Wilson's hand covered the dosage amount, though. It did say "do not take more than 4 per day" which isn't really an idicator of the strength prescribed in any way. Drat.

Well, that was a quick resolution after all that build up.

I give up. What was Tritter's motive in all this????

Well, that was a quick resolution after all that build up.

I give up. What was Tritter's motive in all this????

High stakes p*ssing contest???

Well, that was a quick resolution after all that build up.

I give up. What was Tritter's motive in all this????

Personally, I thought this was one of the worst episodes ever. I certainly didn't believe for one moment anything lasting would happen to House but the entire resolution left me with the same face as Wilson's at the end.

Well, that was a quick resolution after all that build up.

I give up. What was Tritter's motive in all this????

Yes, I was very disappointed in this resolution between Tritter and House. So House masterminded the whole thing? :rolleyes:

I think it was a way "out" for the writers that nobody here saw coming. In that sense, it was unpredictable and I felt entertaining. I'm glad Tritter is gone and House is still on the meds...

I didn't like the resolution either. Especially the notion of Cuddy committing perjury. :rolleyes:

What exactly was the point of all this crap? Just exactly where is House gong to get his Vicodin now? Right now I feel cheated.

I didn't like the resolution either. Especially the notion of Cuddy committing perjury. :rolleyes:

Or the notion that Cuddy somehow owns House now. They had to see him how many times while he was in "rehab" just to solve this mystery. You just know something will happen w/Cuddy and House will have to save her and everything will be back to normal.

This ending just makes the entire Tritter story arc more of a big joke.

I also have to add the fact that he was found in contempt of court and they let him leave the courthouse to solve the mystery back at the hospital and then let him waltz right back in. Now if someone tells me that what House did was OK, I will retract this part.

Where is Bobby Ewing when you need him.

The episode was a letdown.

Cuddy perjuring herself, House faking his rehab by getting meds from someone else all the while, walking out of a court proceding without arrest, etc, etc,

I thought the Tritter character was good and was hoping it would shake House into doing the right thing. And in the end Tritter wished him luck in changing though he knows House probably won't since he's an addict who will say and do anything to keep his supply coming. Which House did.

It's a TV show so of course they had to keep House , House but the character so far, outside of a few brief moments of remorse in apologizing to Wilson and Tritter (which turned out to be phony) shows no sign of facing his faults. Which may be what the producers want anyway.

I won't be watching anymore this season. May try it again in the Fall but I don't like the character that much anymore. Too much arrogance and he's an addict, pure and simple. I don't care how "brilliant" he is. Too bad. I like the other characters and liked most of the shows. But it's just TV.

Although I didn't like the resolution because it was to "slick", I'm sticking with the show.

There really isn't anything likeable about Greg House, and that's the whole point. He is a classic anti-hero. I've worked with people like him. They leave a string of bodies in their wake, violate all protocols, yet somehow manage to pull off impossible things. Because of that, they are tolerated/endured. Most People don't what to go to lunch with them. They ususally don't get invited to personal functions either because nobody wants to be around them, or people realize the individual will not accept anyway.

However, this type of individual may have 1 or two people who do seek him/her out. They often recognize the genius behind the loathsome individual or are just the type of person who realizes that a House-type individual is the kind of person who really needs a friend, though they will never admit it or reciprocate the friendship.

I think Hugh Laurie has captured that type person to a tee.

The episode was a letdown.

Cuddy perjuring herself, House faking his rehab by getting meds from someone else all the while, walking out of a court proceding without arrest, etc, etc,

I thought the Tritter character was good and was hoping it would shake House into doing the right thing. And in the end Tritter wished him luck in changing though he knows House probably won't since he's an addict who will say and do anything to keep his supply coming. Which House did.

It's a TV show so of course they had to keep House , House but the character so far, outside of a few brief moments of remorse in apologizing to Wilson and Tritter (which turned out to be phony) shows no sign of facing his faults. Which may be what the producers want anyway.

I won't be watching anymore this season. May try it again in the Fall but I don't like the character that much anymore. Too much arrogance and he's an addict, pure and simple. I don't care how "brilliant" he is. Too bad. I like the other characters and liked most of the shows. But it's just TV.

I think the show played totally true. House never had an addiction. He has real pain and needs vicodin to function. This arse Tritter was taken down a notch by House (thermoter) and so he tried to find a way to retaliate and get back at House. He did this by trying to say House had an addiction when he didn't. House repeatedly ignored the accusations of addiction from not only Tritter by Cuddy and his subordinates. Tritter used intimidation to try to "break" House and the other hospital employees. House stuck to his guns and ingored the accusations of addiction until Tritter used illegal methods to try to coerce the hospital employees to turn evidence against House.

House went into severe pain with the stoppage of Vicodin. It was not withdrawal, but actual, severe pain. Anyone who has lived with severe pain knows that it can make you want to take your life, so you do what you can to try to take the pain away. It was not withdrawals or the signs of an addict that made House steal meds, it was THE PAIN. Thats why he used alcohol and tried to steal meds....the pain.

When faced with the prospects of going to jail, House (and Cuddy) did what they had to to fight Tritter. As you can see at the end of the episode, it was still the same old House. He is an extremely intelligent man and outsmarted Tritter, and in the end won.

I thought the episode was brilliant!

... I thought the episode was brilliant!

I'm not sure what these other posters feel they are watching, a real life documentary? Its a TV show and an entertaiing one at that.

So, what do most think, that Cuddy and House orchestrated the whole thing? I'm not so sure...

Well, I loved the episode and loved it that House was conning everyone with his rehab stint. I did have a big problem with the resolution though. How does the fact that House didn't get the pills that he wanted make what he did any less illegal? Do we not arrest people for attempted robbery anymore either? That part was lame.

I can't believe you people actually want House to improve as a person! Let that day never come! And hurray for double clinic duty!

I enjoyed the episode but have to agree with others saying that the actual conclusion to the Tritter arch was a bit weak. After everything that House went through with the investigation to have everything go back to the status quo in a mere matter of minute just didn't seem right. I guess thats the problem with the show, you can't have House have too much character transformation or you lose what makes House House.

Oh well ... at least they didn't have Tritter come down with some rare east-asian-albino-mouse disease.

Now to wait 3 more weeks until the next episode .... sigh

I think that House was just plain old House right through. He always says "everyone lies" and he sure followed that up this past episode with his Rehab stint. I think that Cuddy realized that pain that House was in was real, and the consequences of what the pain did to House. She saw him go from brilliant doctor to someone in utter pain. She did what she had to do to save her best doctor. He was perfectly fine until they took away his meds. Sure he is not the most pleasant person to be around to some people, but if he were my friend in real life, I would completely respect him. Most geniuses are offensive and critical of those around them. But what does House's criticism of the people around him do? Makes them become better doctors. There is a method to his madness.

I do, however, think that he was sincere in his statements to Wilson.

And I don't think we have seen the last of Tritter.

I don't know why people are so surprised by the sudden departure of Tritter. House's foes always leave abruptly. That's either by design or because the actor has other committments.

I've been a big David Morse fan since St. Elsewhere, where he played the "golden boy" intern first, then the roof caved in when his Caribbean medical degree was ruled insufficient. He's done lots of good things since, too.

I am not sure what the big deal is about whether or not House is an addict. I am addicted to oxygen and if I don't get it I will die.

Our local Sinclair run station broadcasted in SD, putting a message across the screen saying that House would be not in HD because of technical difficulties. I am pretty skeptical that this wasnt a jab at Comcast

Our local Sinclair run station broadcasted in SD, putting a message across the screen saying that House would be not in HD because of technical difficulties. I am pretty skeptical that this wasnt a jab at Comcast

Ouch! Sorry to hear that. A bit off topic but, statements like this always remind me of just how glad I am that Sinclair left the market I live in.

Armstrong Cable (an independent cable operator) in the northern Pittsburgh, PA area also had the same not in HD message.

Great episode yesterday. Loved it!

I thought that the resolution to House's legal issues was brilliant. Cuddy said to House that she "owned his ass" but it seems to me the opposite is actually true. She not only lied under oath, but could easily lose her medical license for her actions.

House is still a bit fat jerk- which is great. I'm sure that I'm not the only one to be slightly fooled by his apology to Wilson.

It was dissapointing last night to see that House didn't win the People's Choice award over Grey's Anatomy.

Too much arrogance and he's an addict, pure and simple. I don't care how "brilliant" he is. Too bad.
Tritter, is that you?

What do you care if he is addicted to something as long as he does his job?

Everyone is talking about Tritter, etc. but what I didn't like about this episode was the whole elctrical shock treatment. Totally inappropriate and stupid. So their solution that he can't be around a person is to erase his life completely so he doesn't have a job, doesn't know how to do anything, instead of just telling him to move to a different state. Stupid.

Everyone is talking about Tritter, etc. but what I didn't like about this episode was the whole elctrical shock treatment. Totally inappropriate and stupid. So their solution that he can't be around a person is to erase his life completely so he doesn't have a job, doesn't know how to do anything, instead of just telling him to move to a different state. Stupid.

Two problems:

1) he would be able to re-learn

2) since they were 'false memories', he would have the same problem elsewhere

I thought the episode was totally on par with the character(s). House quit taking vicoden before. He proved that it wasn't truly an addiction then. So him faking rehab was right on with his mindset.

The fact that everyone around him believed him (except for Tritter obviously) further shows how they view House.

In addition, it presents the writers with an interesting choice ahead. For example, if the only person that knows he didn't really go through rehab is Wilson, then how will he hide it? Will there be an explosive situation with him and Cuddy in the future?

Of course, he really could quit vicoden. He is headed back to rehab after the stay in jail due to contempt. He's also not likely to find another hospital to work at, especially given that he has everyone around him trained to where he can easily manipulate them.

Mr Zoid

I liked the episode. Totally unpredictable ending. At least it wasn't House saving Tritter's life and them burying the hatchet.

afail, where are you located? We were SD in Pittsburgh via WPGH.

Finally got around to seeing it last night.

All things considered, it might have been a good conclusion to the court case.

But does anyone doubt that Tritter (I like to call him Trigger) won't show up as a future case?

I liked the episode. Totally unpredictable ending. At least it wasn't House saving Tritter's life and them burying the hatchet.

afail, where are you located? We were SD in Pittsburgh via WPGH.

correct, but perhaps it was in fact technical difficulties -- i hate sinclair though so any oppertunity i can get angry with them i jump at it :)

I hope Cuddy keeps to her word and does force him to teach some classes. Another House lecture would be awesome!

It sure wasn't predictable.

The thing that confuses me is, Vicodine is not that big of a deal. I was on it for about 3-4 months about two years ago while dealing with a broken collar bone. Honestly it did not give me much pain relief and when I decided to stop, it took me no effort or will power whatsoever to just stop, even when my pain was still present. So what's the big deal. I cannot image that this wonder drug could make someone functional or not.

Also, the Dr's I had would just give me as much as I wanted (not good) - so much for restricting it usage.

The thing that confuses me is, Vicodine is not that big of a deal. I was on it for about 3-4 months about two years ago while dealing with a broken collar bone. Honestly it did not give me much pain relief and when I decided to stop, it took me no effort or will power whatsoever to just stop, even when my pain was still present. So what's the big deal. I cannot image that this wonder drug could make someone functional or not.

Also, the Dr's I had would just give me as much as I wanted (not good) - so much for restricting it usage.


I wouldn't necessarily consider vicodin "not that big of a deal" simply because of your experience with it. Unfortunately medication, just like pain itself is different for everyone. Some medication works well for certain types of pain and not so well for others. Additionally individual experience with a particular drug can vary from person to person. As an example, methadone is used in chronic pain management to offer the benefits of an opiate based pain reliever without a lot of the side effects normally associated with something like say morphine for example. I personally had fewer problems with morphine, but that doesn't mean one is better or worse for someone else.

The one thing I think most Doctors will agree on tho is that vicodin can be very hard on the liver. Especially at the levels House is taking.

Finally got around to seeing it last night.

All things considered, it might have been a good conclusion to the court case.

But does anyone doubt that Tritter (I like to call him Trigger) won't show up as a future case?

Tritter lied to House when he said good luck IMO. We will see him again. It will be a great twist to the show.

Could Tritter become House's dealer? :)

I wouldn't necessarily consider vicodin "not that big of a deal" simply because of your experience with it. Unfortunately medication, just like pain itself is different for everyone. Some medication works well for certain types of pain and not so well for others. Additionally individual experience with a particular drug can vary from person to person. As an example, methadone is used in chronic pain management to offer the benefits of an opiate based pain reliever without a lot of the side effects normally associated with something like say morphine for example. I personally had fewer problems with morphine, but that doesn't mean one is better or worse for someone else.

The one thing I think most Doctors will agree on tho is that vicodin can be very hard on the liver. Especially at the levels House is taking.


Acetaminophen is the active ingredient in Vicodin that can cause liver problems over time in high doses (I think the upper limit for Acetaminophen intake is 3-4 grams/day). The other active ingredient is Hydrocodone, which is the narcotic. Vicodin contains 5mg of Hydrocodone and 500mg of Acetaminophen, there are other forms as well (Vicodin ES, and Vicodin HP) Norco is another brand name drug that contains the same ingredients as Vicodin, just different strength (Norco contains 10mg Hydrocodone and only 350mg of Acetaminophen). There are many other medications that contain hydrocodone and Acetaminophen besides the ones I mentioned. I would think in real life House would be taking something like Norco. Like rclifton said, the liver can be damaged when taking as much Vicodin as House is taking.

I generally love this show as a whole. And Hugh Laurie in particular. I thought, in the beginning, this story arc with Morse was wonderful and full of possibilities. The only thing I hoped for was a good, sound conclusion and not some cheap-out. Well, sad to say, I got the cheap-out.

The writers may have a med-tech adviser and get the medicine right, but in this entire story arc, they consistently get the law wrong. And not just by a little for poetic license or story interest. In fact, the wrong-headed courtroom ending was not only legally ridiculous, it was not interesting in the least. Far too convenient, far too implausible and far too unsatisfying. I disagree that we'll see Tritter again. And I hope I'm right. At the beginning, I would have hoped for more. Not any longer.

But, of course, I'll stick with the show. It's silly to write it off because of one story line gone bad. It's still one very good show with wonderful, witty dialogue and a great cast, especially Laurie.

Well you'd think House being a Dr. he'd be aware/concerned with the ill effect on the liver.

I always cringe when I see a Dr. smoking (House in Rehab) - he's in denial. I kinda hope he gets nailed at the end. Tritter was right 'even your actions lie'

I generally love this show as a whole. And Hugh Laurie in particular. I thought, in the beginning, this story arc with Morse was wonderful and full of possibilities. The only thing I hoped for was a good, sound conclusion and not some cheap-out. Well, sad to say, I got the cheap-out.

The writers may have a med-tech adviser and get the medicine right, but in this entire story arc, they consistently get the law wrong. And not just by a little for poetic license or story interest. In fact, the wrong-headed courtroom ending was not only legally ridiculous, it was not interesting in the least. Far too convenient, far too implausible and far too unsatisfying. I disagree that we'll see Tritter again. And I hope I'm right. At the beginning, I would have hoped for more. Not any longer.

But, of course, I'll stick with the show. It's silly to write it off because of one story line gone bad. It's still one very good show with wonderful, witty dialogue and a great cast, especially Laurie.

Well said Ray, and I completely agree.

You are certainly correct about them getting how the law works wrong. Well, not only wrong, but wrong in such an obvious way. Really to the point of rolling eyes :rolleyes: ! You would think they could do a better job in that regard. But really, when you combine the poor writing regarding the law and combine that with the poor writing regarding the resolution of the Tritter issue and Cuddy committing perjury, it is difficult for me to imagine being more disappointed with an episode as I was with this one.

But yes, I will definitely stay with the show. For now.

Well you'd think House being a Dr. he'd be aware/concerned with the ill effect on the liver.



I'm thinking maybe in a future season or perhaps even as this seasons cliff hanger that this will become a story arc. Imagine House on the transplant list and all the plot twists and ethical dilemmas it could bring.

Well said Ray, and I completely agree.

You are certainly correct about them getting how the law works wrong. Well, not only wrong, but wrong in such an obvious way. Really to the point of rolling eyes :rolleyes: ! You would think they could do a better job in that regard. But really, when you combine the poor writing regarding the law and combine that with the poor writing regarding the resolution of the Tritter issue and Cuddy committing perjury, it is difficult for me to imagine being more disappointed with an episode as I was with this one.

But yes, I will definitely stay with the show. For now.

All TV is like this - way to simplistic, all problems solved in a few mins.
In 24, all Chloe has to do is open a socket and then send it over to my screen and we can take of things, right?

Acetaminophen is the active ingredient in Vicodin that can cause liver problems over time in high doses (I think the upper limit for Acetaminophen intake is 3-4 grams/day). The other active ingredient is Hydrocodone, which is the narcotic. Vicodin contains 5mg of Hydrocodone and 500mg of Acetaminophen, there are other forms as well (Vicodin ES, and Vicodin HP) Norco is another brand name drug that contains the same ingredients as Vicodin, just different strength (Norco contains 10mg Hydrocodone and only 350mg of Acetaminophen). There are many other medications that contain hydrocodone and Acetaminophen besides the ones I mentioned. I would think in real life House would be taking something like Norco. Like rclifton said, the liver can be damaged when taking as much Vicodin as House is taking.

All of the opiate based pharmacuticals are manufactured without these secondary drugs as well. The addition of Tylenol for example is to increase the pain relief but also serves to effectively discourage abuse due to the reasons you mentioned above. Codeine, morphine, Oxycodone etc, don't contain secondary drugs. Oxy with Tylenol for example is Percocet, codeine with Tylenol is called Cocodamol or Tylenol 3. Vicodin is the drug hyrocodone with Tylenol. If House had lived 100 years ago, he could get heroin easily, developed by Bayer as an alternative to morphine and marketed as less addictive. In fact heroin, derived from morphine, is more lipid soluable and much more addictive. While morphine is obviously still used regulary for medical purposes, heroin is schedule 1 in the U.S. which means "no medical value." House's drug of choice seems to be Vicodin, which is an oversight of the show, since House should be smart enough to avoid the combination opiate based drugs.

Well said Ray, and I completely agree.

You are certainly correct about them getting how the law works wrong. Well, not only wrong, but wrong in such an obvious way. Really to the point of rolling eyes :rolleyes: ! You would think they could do a better job in that regard. But really, when you combine the poor writing regarding the law and combine that with the poor writing regarding the resolution of the Tritter issue and Cuddy committing perjury, it is difficult for me to imagine being more disappointed with an episode as I was with this one.

But yes, I will definitely stay with the show. For now.
I agree 100%. But I think we all knew something like this had to happen. Not much of a show with house behind bars. Great episodes leading up to this, but they went down a path that had to have a dissapointing ending.

I dont see what was sooooooooo wrong about the courtroom decision. House signed for Smarties (see Season 1 bonus materials :)). If you tricked someone into thinking they were stealing a car, which then turned out to be registered in their name, what could you charge them with? ;)

In reality, it doesn't take much to create a mistrial, which is exactly what happened on the show.

Thankfully, Tritter's weak and overplayed character is gone. It went on far too long. :mad:

I also don't like the way they depicted ECT. In this day and age ECT is used almost all the time, and is considered very much a viable alternative to meds in the treatment of depressed patients. I would hate to see an episode such as this to scare people away from it.

I have seen many, many, people go for regular ECT treatments, and you do not lose long term memory, just short term, which basically returns to you after a matter of time.

Nothing like a medical show which tries hard to break new ground, scaring people back to the old biases surrounding mental illness.

Tritter lied to House when he said good luck IMO. We will see him again. It will be a great twist to the show.

"Everyone Lies"

"Everyone Lies"

That was never more true than in this episode, especially with Cuddy committing perjury!

I dont see what was sooooooooo wrong about the courtroom decision. House signed for Smarties (see Season 1 bonus materials :)). If you tricked someone into thinking they were stealing a car, which then turned out to be registered in their name, what could you charge them with? ;)

In reality, it doesn't take much to create a mistrial, which is exactly what happened on the show.

Thankfully, Tritter's weak and overplayed character is gone. It went on far too long. :mad:


According to the writers it wasn't a mistrial. That was supposed to be the preliminary hearing, which is where a judge decides if there is enough probable cause (a lower standard than "beyond all reasonable doubt") to hold the case over for trial.

I dont see what was sooooooooo wrong about the courtroom decision. House signed for Smarties (see Season 1 bonus materials :)). If you tricked someone into thinking they were stealing a car, which then turned out to be registered in their name, what could you charge them with? ;)

In reality, it doesn't take much to create a mistrial, which is exactly what happened on the show.

Thankfully, Tritter's weak and overplayed character is gone. It went on far too long. :mad:

Not to beat the dead horse (this poor conclusion is...well, concluded, thankfully...) but, it was NOT a mistrial. The judge dismissed the charges (despite direct evidence of guilt). The analogy of the stolen car is completely different and not relevant. What House did was fraudulently sign various Rx's (proven), use fraud to obtain the meds of a dead patient (which he admitted) and - even if Cuddy had actually done what she claimed (switched the pills) - it would still be quite possible to convict House. He made a knowing overt act and had intent. It's done in law enforcement all the time: set up the suspect with phony goods. Perfectly legal. House was guilty as charged and the judge made a silly and arbitrary decision which was necessary (at least to the writers) to conclude the story line.

Don't misunderstand me - I realize it couldn't possibly end with House away in jail while the gang carries on. I just think they could have been more creative in their concluding the story without resorting to "Jack Bauer crosses L.A. in rush-hour in 13 minutes" type of hyperbole or implausibility.

And, by the way. Was anyone else caught off guard by the preview? IN 3 WEEKS? It was off quite a while, back for one, now off 3 more? I must have missed the news on that. Sheesh.

Not to beat the dead horse (this poor conclusion is...well, concluded, thankfully...) but, it was NOT a mistrial. The judge dismissed the charges (despite direct evidence of guilt). The analogy of the stolen car is completely different and not relevant. What House did was fraudulently sign various Rx's (proven), use fraud to obtain the meds of a dead patient (which he admitted) and - even if Cuddy had actually done what she claimed (switched the pills) - it would still be quite possible to convict House. He made a knowing overt act and had intent. It's done in law enforcement all the time: set up the suspect with phony goods. Perfectly legal. House was guilty as charged and the judge made a silly and arbitrary decision which was necessary (at least to the writers) to conclude the story line.

Don't misunderstand me - I realize it couldn't possibly end with House away in jail while the gang carries on. I just think they could have been more creative in their concluding the story without resorting to "Jack Bauer crosses L.A. in rush-hour in 13 minutes" type of hyperbole or implausibility.

Exactly right. In criminal law, there is a concept known as "mens rea". This basically means that "the act" does not, by itself, make a person guilty unless the mind is also guilty. So, even if Cuddy had switched the pills, House didn't know it, so he still had the requisit Mens Rea to be guilty. The fact that the judge immediately through out the charges after Cuddy said she had switched the pills made no sense at all. Just as many other aspects of the so-called legal proceedings, going back several episodes to when Tritter was supposedly freezing bank accounts of witnesses. :rolleyes:

But, I also do not want to over state this. It is a TV show after all, and a certain amount of latitude is certainly needed....though they took a little too much in the legal arena! ;)

And, by the way. Was anyone else caught off guard by the preview? IN 3 WEEKS? It was off quite a while, back for one, now off 3 more? I must have missed the news on that. Sheesh.

It was exactly the same way last year. Very frustrating. It makes it very difficult to maintain any type of continuity/flow. I hate that.

I don't know why Fox does this with House, yet when 24 comes on, I don't think there is a single week where we don't get a new episode. (speaking of which, I was so disappointed in the last few episodes of 24 last year I don't know if I will watch again this year. They went way over the top in terms of plausibility, even for that show)!

It was exactly the same way last year. Very frustrating. It makes it very difficult to maintain any type of continuity/flow. I hate that.

I don't know why Fox does this with House, yet when 24 comes on, I don't think there is a single week where we don't get a new episode. (speaking of which, I was so disappointed in the last few episodes of 24 last year I don't know if I will watch again this year. They went way over the top in terms of plausibility, even for that show)!

Because of American Idol. The next three weeks are audition weeks, which draw huge ratings. If you can sit on House and stretch your 22 episodes until late May (keep in mind the season started in August), why wouldn't you? Both shows are ratings gold mines so this is simply FOX getting the most out of 2 of their big 3 shows.

House has shown that dispite these long breaks, the ratings remain consistant

Was anyone else caught off guard by the preview? IN 3 WEEKS?

Because of American Idol. The next three weeks are audition weeks, which draw huge ratings.

Still sucks, especially for someone who has watched maybe a total of 12 mins of AI the whole time it's been on the air.....

Was anyone else caught off guard by the preview? IN 3 WEEKS?

Because of American Idol. The next three weeks are audition weeks, which draw huge ratings.

Still sucks, especially for someone who has watched maybe a total of 12 mins of AI the whole time it's been on the air.....

What do you mean still sucks?! I think that reason makes it suck that much harder!

American Idol. Puhleeze! :rolleyes:

Because of American Idol. The next three weeks are audition weeks, which draw huge ratings. If you can sit on House and stretch your 22 episodes until late May (keep in mind the season started in August), why wouldn't you? Both shows are ratings gold mines so this is simply FOX getting the most out of 2 of their big 3 shows.

House has shown that dispite these long breaks, the ratings remain consistant

Then why don't they do this with 24?

Sorry, I wasn't very clear on my point. I couldn't care less how the whole Tritter storyline ended, just so long as it was over. Smarties, Vicodin, mistrial, lack of evidence, lack of even making sense...who cares? That whole weak Tritter (Vogler clone) plotline is finally over. This isn't LA Law, it's House, Md. So long as they're close on the medical aspects and the show is entertaining, I'll keep watching, since it is a show about medicine, after all. What else is there that's remotely close to as good, even with the occasional slip-up?

Considering that CSI: Convenient Science Idiocy gets high ratings, it's clearly evident that the average American viewer doesn't give a crap about reality in any way, shape, or form. 3-second DNA/fingerprint tests? :rolleyes: Jack's Bad Hair Day and Escape from Alcatraz 2007 are equally bad. Horny Homewenches? The Oh-See (us make a prime-time soap)? Gilligan's Island Revisited? The Mind-Numbingly Boring Office that Desperately Tries to be Funny but is Painfully not Therefore Changes its Image to a Romantic Sitcom that Makes it Even More Pathetic and Hard to Watch? No thanks, I'll pass. :(

There's so much abysmal material on TV that House would have to have a full season full of holes, plot inconsistencies, character changes, writer firings, and then completely collapse under the weight of all that to stoop to the level of any of the drek above. Thankfully, that's not going to happen. :D

Then why don't they do this with 24?


24 is a show that you can't miss an episode. If FOX took weeks off, viewers would suffer and fall behind and possibly stop watching

24 is a show that you can't miss an episode. If FOX took weeks off, viewers would suffer and fall behind and possibly stop watching

Good point, and I agree.

And yet Heroes, which is a far superior show, takes months off...:confused:

And yet Heroes, which is a far superior show, takes months off...:confused:

Don't get me started on NBC and scheduling. Scrubs is the funniest 30 minute show left on TV but it has to fight it's way on to the schedule...

Wow. What an episode of House. I think CSI:Miami might be the best looking show but House is just riveting (to me).

I thought the backand forth conversation with the young girl dragged on and on. The kind of episode that gets put up for Emmys, not the kind that is typical of the series.

I thought this was the worst episode of the series. I agree that the critics will likely laud it for being different and for being well acted, but I was bored to death. I like it when they stray from the formula, but I didn't enjoy this stab at an episode without them trying to save a dying patient. Also, the subplot with Cameron was pointless.

Worst episode of House, ever. I certainly hope this doesn't reflect a new direction for the show.

Nice to see them stray from the usual formula but I agree that when they strayed they seemed to go around in circles for most of time. I'd prefer an episode where House found himself outside the hospital setting trying to solve a medical mystery, maybe a camping trip with Wilson or something along those lines.

Wouldn't want to be in charge of Fox's mailroom when all the pro-life people start mailing in their thoughts on the episode.

I think it was good to try a different episode for a change, but this was the most boring one of the series to me. I hope they get House back in the lecture hall.

Hmmm, I actually liked this episode. Obviously couldn't do this every week but for a change in direction I thought it was well done.

What interested me is that the rape victim wouldn't talk about herself until House revealed something about himself. I also liked the way she challenged him and got inside his head a bit. That rarely happens on the show. I thought she did a very good job of acting...

I think the writers are trying to show us all aspects of this very complicated and damaged man. I'm sure the basic formula of the show will return next week and those who favor that will be happy again....

Well, it was certainly different from the previous episodes. Can't say I loved it. Do doctors really have the responsibility of talking to rape victims? I thought cops would handle that task?

Nice to see them stray from the usual formula but I agree that when they strayed they seemed to go around in circles for most of time. I'd prefer an episode where House found himself outside the hospital setting trying to solve a medical mystery, maybe a camping trip with Wilson or something along those lines.

Wouldn't want to be in charge of Fox's mailroom when all the pro-life people start mailing in their thoughts on the episode.

I didn't agree with the conclusion of the episode either. I thought the show was fairly well balanced throughout. There were both sides of an argument made, and each character had their own convictions. The "termination" was a statement by the writers. Abortion was the correct choice. The raped woman was someone who tried to see the positives of the situation. The opposite of House who was pessimistic, atheistic, etc. By ending the pregnancy, the woman changed her belief system. It cheapened her character, and her position.

Maybe that was the point of the show though. I missed part of what caused House to get incensed at the foosball table. Was he looking for someone who could forgive and move on? House had been abused and harbored resentment. Did he allow his negative feelings to rub off on someone who sought the positives in life?

I'm going to be the contrarian here and say that I thought it was a very good episode. It really wasn't too far off the show's usual dramatic formula of searching for a diagnosis and treatment except that it revolved around what was -- for this patient -- primarily a psychiatric trauma rather than a purely medical one. It was also similar to the show's usual arch in that the victim was first treated by another specialist (the psychiatrist who reported that she spent the entire time with the patient doing all the talking, herself) before House took over and got to the bottom of things to affect a cure.
I also like the fact that the encounter forced House to reveal the source of some of his own psychic wounds and dysfunction, something the program only gives us in small tidbits.
As to the "pro life" vs. "pro choice" debate, I also think the script did a good job of presenting the competing beliefs and rational arguments in a balanced and context relevant way.

I liked it a lot. Who was the actress who played the rape victim? She certainly held her own with House (not an easy thing to do).

(From Marc Berman’s Wednesday, Jan. 31, 2007, Programming Insider column and blog at Mediaweek.com )

“Led by the combination of American Idol and House, Fox beat the four competing networks combined by an average of 3.88 million viewers and 48 percent among adults 18-49. American Idol opened the evening with a typically mammoth 33.29 million viewers and a 13.3 rating/33 share among adults 18-49 at 8 p.m., followed by bona fide sensation House at 27.75 million viewers and an 11.2/27 among adults 18-49 at 9 p.m. For anyone who thinks House is just riding on the coattails of American Idol, note the retention of a solid 83 percent in total viewers and 84 percent in the demo…”

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... Do doctors really have the responsibility of talking to rape victims? ...

IMHO, he was way out of bounds and was practicing psychiatry without a license.

I thought it was an absolutely tremendous episode. Stepping off the beaten path once in a while is not always bad. For me, this one was truely emotionally engaging. I thought it was the best episode I have seen in a long long time.

p.s. House giving the $10 back for the hottie was hilarious :)

imo the most boring episode ever. had to break my laptop out in the middle to keep myself entertained. i applaud them going for something different, but this didn't work for me.

My Wife and I had a long discussion about the rape victims insisting that House reveal something about his past before she would reveal her rape experience. Wife said that was how she wanted her doctor to be while I was appalled that everyone insisted that House feel everyones pain in order to treat them.
I agree with House that everyone wringing their hands and emoting has nothing to do with health care.

Maybe I am mis-remembering something from a past season, but I thought that before the botched surgery on his leg, House was somewhat of a happier person. He was in love, was a friend who helped Wilson through his love crises, etc.

After the problem with his leg, the relationship fell apart and he become the House we all know and love(?). If the story about his dad's abuse is true, and I accept that it is, wouldn't that have made him less jolly pre-leg?

In any case, I thought it was an interesting twist on the typical formula. My wife and I both agree with a previous poster: "Are we role playing? Am I supposed to be you? I don't WANT to be you!!!!"

IMHO, he was way out of bounds and was practicing psychiatry without a license.


A psychiatrist is an MD. They goto Med School and specialize in psychiatry. They have the ability to write prescriptions.

A psychologist (even a Dr. (in this case a PhD)) generally speaking does not have medical training. A very good psychologist will be quite versed in the available medications. A psychologist (without the MD) cannot write prescriptions.

It is possible, though I haven't run across anyone so trained, to be both an MD specializing in psychiatry and a PhD in psychology.

Cheers,

Cameron is becoming quite the 'Angel of Death'.

Surprised nobody mentioned a great line from clinic duty.

"I have a ruffled shirt and haven't brushed my hair in a week. You have athlete's foot in your nose. I'm ready to be judged now."

Not exact quote, but d@mn funny.

I liked it a lot. Who was the actress who played the rape victim? She certainly held her own with House (not an easy thing to do).
Katheryn Winnick, and I agree, her performance was outstanding.

http://pro.imdb.com/name/nm0935395/
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Surprised nobody mentioned a great line from clinic duty.

"I have a ruffled shirt and haven't brushed my hair in a week. You have athlete's foot in your nose. I'm ready to be judged now."

Not exact quote, but d@mn funny.

This episode did nothing for me, but that was a hilarious line. Although I didn't like the turn of events on this one, I definitely laughed more than most House episodes. The line from above, the giving the $10 back due to the Hottie in the room, and telling the kid he sucks at math.