I'm going to be the contrarian here and say that I thought it was a very good episode. It really wasn't too far off the show's usual dramatic formula of searching for a diagnosis and treatment except that it revolved around what was -- for this patient -- primarily a psychiatric trauma rather than a purely medical one. It was also similar to the show's usual arch in that the victim was first treated by another specialist (the psychiatrist who reported that she spent the entire time with the patient doing all the talking, herself) before House took over and got to the bottom of things to affect a cure.
I also like the fact that the encounter forced House to reveal the source of some of his own psychic wounds and dysfunction, something the program only gives us in small tidbits.
As to the "pro life" vs. "pro choice" debate, I also think the script did a good job of presenting the competing beliefs and rational arguments in a balanced and context relevant way.


I couldn't agree more. Excellent episode overall, and it was nice to see them stray from the usual formula for a change. We did get more insight into House, though admittedly not a lot. The acting was terrific by both Hugh and Katheryn Winnick.

...the giving the $10 back due to the Hottie in the room.

If I remember correctly he was "up" $20 before he went in the room to see her...so was the joke that he touched her 3 times?

LOVED THIS EPISODE! I'm not sure if it was more in part due to the long overdue death of the mind-numbingly boring and overplayed Tritter storyline, Winnick's superb performance paired with Laurie's, or that this episode wasn't all about "you're dying, you're not dying, you're dying, you're not..."

This episode, perhaps more than any other, gave us a real glimpse into the true genius of the show...House seeking his own humanity, rather than the obvious trying to save humanity.

I like it when they stray from the formula, but I didn't enjoy this stab at an episode without them trying to save a dying patient. Also, the subplot with Cameron was pointless.
House was trying to save an emotionally damaged person, which is just as important as saving a physically damaged one. The subplot with Cameron wasn't pointless. It was a chance for her to further understand suffering in relation to her husband's death.

...maybe a camping trip with Wilson or something along those lines.

Wouldn't want to be in charge of Fox's mailroom when all the pro-life people start mailing in their thoughts on the episode.
Please...one Brokeback Mountain is enough. ;) And the pro-lifers are upset, then they didn't really watch the show or get the point at all.

I hope they get House back in the lecture hall.
I couldn't agree more. "Three Stories" is easily the best episode yet.

Do doctors really have the responsibility of talking to rape victims? I thought cops would handle that task?
Anyone that a rape victim will talk to has the responsibility to listen...at least if you're a decent human being. House listened, the psychologist talked.

By ending the pregnancy, the woman changed her belief system. It cheapened her character, and her position.

Maybe that was the point of the show though. I missed part of what caused House to get incensed at the foosball table. Was he looking for someone who could forgive and move on? House had been abused and harbored resentment. Did he allow his negative feelings to rub off on someone who sought the positives in life?
Reality doesn't always allow a person to follow their beliefs. Would you steal a loaf of bread if your kids were starving?

House's reaction at the foosball table was in response to supposedly helping someone like a rape victim feel better with trite sayings and inept attempts at sympathy. When someone suffers a rape, it diminishes us all, despite our best efforts to rememdy the situation. He was simply angry it happened.

Maybe I am mis-remembering something from a past season, but I thought that before the botched surgery on his leg, House was somewhat of a happier person.
You're mis-remembering. Stacy and Wilson have repeatedly said that House was very much the same person before the leg...sans the limp.

While I enjoy House saving lives and solving medical mysteries, give me more of House's backstory any day. :)

Katheryn Winnick, and I agree, her performance was outstanding.

http://pro.imdb.com/name/nm0935395/
IMDb Pro : Katheryn Winnick: Main Details
She's gorgeous, but obviously she wasn't made up to look her best given the role she was playing in this episode.

She's gorgeous, but obviously she wasn't made up to look her best given the role she was playing in this episode.

Exactly. And yet, she still looked......gorgeous!!!

I still believe this is the episode that they are using to go for the Emmy. But very untypical. Suppose you invited someone over to watch House -- if I had done so, I would be apologizing left and right -- not that it was terrible, but it was not at all representative.

I still believe this is the episode that they are using to go for the Emmy. But very untypical. Suppose you invited someone over to watch House -- if I had done so, I would be apologizing left and right -- not that it was terrible, but it was not at all representative.

The fact that it was not representative does not make it bad. Heck, "Three Stories" wasn't really representative either, yet it is probably the best episode ever.

My girlfriend noticed how nice and summery the park scene was. There where leaves on the trees and a duck in the water. No wonder he goes there all the time there is snow on the hospital but the park is beautiful. I am going to that park the rest of the winter.

She didn’t like the episode that much but I did.

Blaine

I think Katheryn Winnick's character was more of the leading role than a supporting role in this episode. I really liked how she was able to pull me into this show where House is more slapstick comedy. Getting more of House's backstory was interesting as well.

I think Katheryn Winnick's character was more of the leading role than a supporting role in this episode. I really liked how she was able to pull me into this show where House is more slapstick comedy. Getting more of House's backstory was interesting as well.
I agree, her performance was so powerful she literally controlled the scenes with her and House. As I was watching this episode I kept thinking to myself that I'm seeing a very special piece of acting by a very talented actress, kudos to the whole creative team at House.

I agree, her performance was so powerful she literally controlled the scenes with her and House. As I was watching this episode I kept thinking to myself that I'm seeing a very special piece of acting by a very talented actress, kudos to the whole creative team at House.

....and she did it with just the right touch to make it believable. It didn't seem like an actress playing a part (which kills the believability element for me), but more like a real person in a hospital. Great performance.

My girlfriend noticed how nice and summery the park scene was. There where leaves on the trees and a duck in the water. No wonder he goes there all the time there is snow on the hospital but the park is beautiful. I am going to that park the rest of the winter.

She didn’t like the episode that much but I did.

Blaine

There where two large areas of snow on the ground right by the bench he was laying on. Clearly visible when he went back there again with the blond.

Loved this episode. Extremely funny. I've laughed more during this one then other shows. Nice break from the normal House episode, don't want it to be the norm, but it was a great show, well done.

My girlfriend noticed how nice and summery the park scene was. There where leaves on the trees and a duck in the water. No wonder he goes there all the time there is snow on the hospital but the park is beautiful. I am going to that park the rest of the winter.
The snow cover on the hospital is one of several standard cover shots used throughout the year, while the park is a real place where they shot this particular scene, probably in late summer or early fall.

I agree, her performance was so powerful she literally controlled the scenes with her and House. As I was watching this episode I kept thinking to myself that I'm seeing a very special piece of acting by a very talented actress, kudos to the whole creative team at House.


Exactly. She definitely more than held her own with Laurie.

Too bad Winnick hasn't had more roles, or at least better/bigger ones. When an average-looking, pathetic hack of an actress like Jessica Alba can get so much work, someone of Winnick's caliber/looks should have no problem landing large parts. :(

My gf says Winnick is the most stunningly gorgeous natural beauty she can recall, particularly the eyes.

I couldn't agree more. :)

Too bad Winnick hasn't had more roles, or at least better/bigger ones. When an average-looking, pathetic hack of an actress like Jessica Alba can get so much work, someone of Winnick's caliber/looks should have no problem landing large parts. :(

My gf says Winnick is the most stunningly gorgeous natural beauty she can recall, particularly the eyes.

I couldn't agree more. :)

WOW, if you think Jessica Alba is average looking, I dont even know what to say to you, that is the one of the most ridculous statements i think ive ever read on a message board, definately saying something.

Go back and watch this week's House episode again. Here, we have Winnick, without any makeup, intentionally made to look like she's been crying and deprived of sleep, emotionally battered, suicidal, and entirely at the end of her rope...and she's still drop-dead gorgeous. Then, take a look at the very average-looking Alba in real life without the aid of her army of Hollywood makeup artists below:

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/spyderswebphotos/jessica-alba-makeup-04.jpg

http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n172/spyderswebphotos/jessica-alba-makeup-02.jpg

The very definition of average, if ever there was one. :confused:

Given her performance on House, comparing talent between Winnick and Alba would be like comparing this: http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/07/21/barabus-tkr-takes-over-as-worlds-fastest-car/ to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_2CV

Too bad Winnick hasn't had more roles, or at least better/bigger ones. When an average-looking, pathetic hack of an actress like Jessica Alba can get so much work, someone of Winnick's caliber/looks should have no problem landing large parts. :(

My gf says Winnick is the most stunningly gorgeous natural beauty she can recall, particularly the eyes.


I also like Kate Beckinsale of Underworld and others:
http://vonhofs.com/hd/KateB2815.jpg

When is she going to be on House?! :D

Here are some Alba pictures at the beach I highly doubt shes heavily made up there and tell me she isnt attractive...
http://thesuperficial.com/2007/01/jessica_alba_plays_football_in.html

I thought it was the worst episode of House to date. Winnick reminded me of a high school drama club kid, overacting and using her "piercing stare" waaaay too much. I actually hated her whiny character, and was hoping that the "rape baby" was actually an aggressive tumor so we could get back to the real House MD.

It was a relief that Bones was really good this week.

Good program tonight. If last week's was unusual, this was very typical. Byplay with wheelchair and "make way for a cripple" was priceless.

Good program tonight. If last week's was unusual, this was very typical. Byplay with wheelchair and "make way for a cripple" was priceless.

I agree.

Funny, this weeks episode was as typical as they come, and last weeks was as unique as they come. Quite the contrast.

This was a good episode, but nothing special.

I'm sure last week's will earn more praise from the critics, but I liked this week's about a million times better. Much more entertaining. Had to love House being a bastard about the stupid parking space. I hope that his new "rival" hangs around for a few episodes.

How in the world does someone swallow a toothpick as big as the one he held up and showed him? Cripes, that would be something to see.

This was a more typical House episode, but I was just as bored with it as I was last weeks. I hope they get better in the next few weeks.

I was pretty disappointed with last night's episode. Other than the "gyp ya" line and the wheelchair showdown, I was bored to tears. I was really hoping House would come to admire the doctor in the wheelchair and start dating her. I didn't care whether the kid lived or died, and the entire plotline was so far from reality it was "harder to swallow" than some enormous toothpick. :(

seemed like the typical episode, which isn't what you'd expect during sweeps.

I generally agree that this one was better than the more boring, previous one. Neither was actually up to standard IMO, though. Some good lines and I liked the interaction btwn Foreman and the kid with potential that was being suppressed by the family. Otherwise, kinda ho-hum.

The "bleeding out the crotch" drama gag sure gets used a lot in this show. Anybody notice this? Does it really happen this often in a hospital?

Last nights episode was back to normal for us, at least that's my take on things. I liked the episode.

I didn't notice who played Hanna, was it Mika Boorem (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0095561/)? If so, her IMDB info doesn't show it yet.

After last week's boring and pedantic episode that offered little in the way of humor, storyline, or character development, this week was absolutely superb. The comparative misery argument between House and the girl was hilarious. Plenty of other one-liners as well. :)

The fact that House has "a thing" for Cuddy is FINALLY brought to light. Cameron and Chase start having casual sex...again. Excellent episode. This is the House I know and love, not the drivel they tried to pass off last week, lazily riding on the victory of the outstanding Emmy/rape episode. :o

I certainly hope the good/bad/good episode pattern doesn't continue. :confused:

Yep, I enjoyed this one a lot too. Much more of your typical House episode, and many more good one liners than we have seen in a while.

I do admit that I am getting a little tired of someone (Wilson in this case) making some off the wall statement and having it trigger a light bulb in House, allowing him to finally make the correct diagnosis. In this case, a food reference made House realize that his patient obviously had a 25 foot worm inside her! :eek:

We had a big storm last night and I missed HOUSE and so did my DVR. Anyone know if I can watch it online anywhere! Doesn't look like Fox replays this show? I'm sooo bummed.

Yep, I enjoyed this one a lot too. Much more of your typical House episode, and many more good one liners than we have seen in a while.
Agreed, my wife and I enjoyed it too. We laughed out loud at some of the one liners.
House just loved breaking up Cuddy's date- especially funny where House though the guy was a grease monkey, and he turned out to be the owner of a national chain of stores.

I am getting a little tired of someone (Wilson in this case) making some off the wall statement and having it trigger a light bulb in House, allowing him to finally make the correct diagnosis.
We all knew it was coming, because there were only like 5 minutes left to the episode and they played that little musical clip that kind of makes you think of the light bulb going off. They need to have some cases where House fails miserably, or at least a two or three episode long story arc with in-depth character development (a-la Battlestar Galactica).

We had a big storm last night and I missed HOUSE and so did my DVR. Anyone know if I can watch it online anywhere! Doesn't look like Fox replays this show? I'm sooo bummed.

Lenny, check the listings for USA. Last week Friday night, they replayed the previous Tuesday's show. Don't know why they are on USA so quickly, but it may work out for you! Not HD, but better than nothing.

The most annoying thing about this show is the constant breaks in between shows. Now we have to wait 3 weeks for a new episode. Although it guest stars Dave Matthews so I am pshyced about that. But IMO the breaks are really making it difficult to be excited about this season.

Lenny, check the listings for USA. Last week Friday night, they replayed the previous Tuesday's show. Don't know why they are on USA so quickly, but it may work out for you! Not HD, but better than nothing.

Will do, thanks!!!

Edit: Just found it on the listings for 2/23 at 11pm on USA. Thanks for the heads up!

The most annoying thing about this show is the constant breaks in between shows. Now we have to wait 3 weeks for a new episode. Although it guest stars Dave Matthews so I am pshyced about that. But IMO the breaks are really making it difficult to be excited about this season.
No sh!t!! What is the deal with that??

Will do, thanks!!!

Edit: Just found it on the listings for 2/23 at 11pm on USA. Thanks for the heads up!

Lenny, I sent you a e mail, I have a copy I can mail u....Scott

No sh!t!! What is the deal with that??Two words:
(Actually 2 letters)
A I

Two words:
(Actually 2 letters)
A I
Yeah, I know, but since I never watch AI, it simply doesn't exist for me. :D

Yeah, I know, but since I never watch AI, it simply doesn't exist for me. :D

Not only do I have a hard time believing that it does exist, but that it apparently gets very high ratings! :confused: :confused: :confused:

Not only do I have a hard time believing that it does exist, but that it apparently gets very high ratings! :confused: :confused: :confused:
That may be true, but so does such drek as; Horny Homewenches, Jack's Bad Day, Escape from Alcatraz 2007, Lost Plot, The Oh-See (how pathetic you are compared to us), and Convenient Science Investigators. :confused:

Not only do I have a hard time believing that it does exist, but that it apparently gets very high ratings! :confused: :confused: :confused:That's the rumor.

That may be true, but so does such drek as; Horny Homewenches, Jack's Bad Day, Escape from Alcatraz 2007, Lost Plot, The Oh-See (how pathetic you are compared to us), and Convenient Science Investigators. :confused:Don't forget Glazed Anatomy. :D

Getting back to House, wasn't that some honking tape worm House pulled out of her. euw..

Getting back to House, wasn't that some honking tape worm House pulled out of her. euw..
I've seen all sorts of blood and guts on TV and in movies, but that was disgusting...just the thought of having something like that inside of you... :eek: :eek:

Did anyone notice that Cuddys date plays Luke on Studio 60? Why do I not like that guy in any character he plays? Maybe because he is always playing the "other guy" trying to steal the girl? hehe

Our Fox station in Tallahassee keeps breaking up so I have to check in with you guys to get the cliffnotes. sux :(

I've seen all sorts of blood and guts on TV and in movies, but that was disgusting...

The recent "drill" scene in "24" comes to mind. :eek:

Getting back to House, wasn't that some honking tape worm House pulled out of her. euw..
It wasn't really that big. 10 meters is about average length for a tapeworm. Now 60' would be impressive!

Wow! Someone from Valdosta! Picking up FOX from Tallahassee? OTA? Don't know how long you lived there but until the late 70's there were three stations: WCTV, WALB, WAGA.
Then 27 (ABC) came to Tallahassee but was a tough catch OTA in Valdosta. Fox appeared in the mid-80's on channel 31 and could pick that up OK.

Another great House episode. Cameron->House->Cuddy what a mix......

Fox renews 'House', 'Bones'
Both shows picked up for next season
By Michael Schneider Variety February 16, 2007

Fox is showing some early love for "House" and "Bones," picking up both for next season.

News is no surprise for "House," which will enter its fourth season this fall. Show, which launched to tepid numbers, eventually burst into a mega-Nielsen performer and now is one of Fox's top-rated tentpole dramas.

"Bones," meanwhile, hasn't yet turned into a blockbuster but has seen its fortunes improve at the net, turning into a decent player for Fox. Show marks its third season this fall.

Season to date, "House" has averaged a strong 7.1 rating/18 share in adults 18-49, as well as 17.4 million viewers. It's Fox's top-rated scripted skein, and No. 3 among all webs with adults 18-49.

Show stars Hugh Laurie as Dr. Gregory House, an acerbic but brilliant infectious disease specialist. Omar Epps, Jennifer Morrison, Jesse Spencer, Robert Sean Leonard and Lisa Edelstein also star.

David Shore created and exec produces "House," which earned him an Emmy for writing in a drama in 2005. Katie Jacobs, Paul Attanasio, Bryan Singer and Dan Sackheim also exec produce "House," which comes from NBC Universal TV Studio.

As for "Bones," the drama has averaged a 3.1 rating/8 share in adults 18-49 season to date, as well as 8.8 million viewers.

Show stars Emily Deschanel as Dr. Temperance Brennan, a forensic anthropologist who assists in murder investigations. She's frequently teamed with FBI Special Agent Seeley Booth (played by David Boreanaz).

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=print_story&articleid=VR1117959594&categoryid=14

I've seen all sorts of blood and guts on TV and in movies, but that was disgusting...just the thought of having something like that inside of you... :eek: :eek:

True ... but of all the various potential human hosted parasites, the tape worm is actually one of the least "nasty" ones ... so said my college bio prof, anyway :eek:

I heard of a real-life parasitic infection case a few years ago. A bunch of doctors were unable to come up with a diagnosis.

They finally had a doctor from Russia that was visiting the USA on some kind of exchange program look at the patient. She quickly determined that it was a parasistic infection that she was familiar with because of the higher rates of parasitic infection in Russia.

It appeared to me she had a fish tapeworm, as opposed to one of the remaining 120+ varieties.

If you want to see something really scary, take a look at the hookworm here:

http://www.parasitecleanse.com/gallery.htm (pics at bottom of page)

This looks like a case for House,

Fla. teen hiccuping for over 3 weeks.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070215/ap_on_fe_st/hiccuping_teen
Fla. teen hiccuping for over 3 weeks - Yahoo! News

50 times a minute!

I wonder what kind of damage could be done hiccuping like that for so long?

Our Fox station in Tallahassee keeps breaking up so I have to check in with you guys to get the cliffnotes. sux :(

Are you going to watch it on USA tonight? Not HD, but at least you can see the show.

New episode tonight.... thank goodness!
I'm on AI overload already.... :p

About damn time.

Ridiculous that we have to feel so "lucky" to get a new episode. :rolleyes:

No doubt. At least with House, it's not necessarily a linear storyline, like Heroes...which is now off until APRIL 23rd! WTF???

No doubt. At least with House, it's not necessarily a linear storyline, like Heroes...which is now off until APRIL 23rd! WTF???

yeah, I knew Heroes had to take a hiatus, but Apr 23rd. :(

I hate it when they do that.

Great episode, but what an ass House proved to be. This was the first time during the show when I called him a**hole.

i loved it. i love the house character, but i was worried that he would lose his edge if he had actual mortality.

Anyone else just love the kiss? I kept expecting Chase to come in but they went a different way with it.

That "Make-a-Wish Foundation" remark had me laughing...

I loved the episode. Consistent with House's personality, and shows they are still dealing with his addictive traits.

"If you need a sperm sample, come back without the needle"! :D

I had high hopes for this episode, but to me it was just average. Dave Matthews did a great job though.

What was with that "Luke N. Laura" name on the brain scan?

What was with that "Luke N. Laura" name on the brain scan?
Luke and Laura are (were?) famous characters on General Hospital (House's favorite TV show). I hate myself for knowing that. :eek:

Did I hear correctly when House was doing the clinic work and he told the lady "Too bad, you are cute this thin" or something like that? Saying that to somebody who is purging (bulemic I think it is) is not good.

Did I hear correctly when House was doing the clinic work and he told the lady "Too bad, you are cute this thin" or something like that? Saying that to somebody who is purging (bulemic I think it is) is not good.

Yes, he said that, and I laughed out loud at the comment. Making a comment like that to a bulemic is exactly what House would do.

Yes, he said that, and I laughed out loud at the comment. Making a comment like that to a bulemic is exactly what House would do.
Yep, that comment was in line with House's character :D

Did I hear correctly when House was doing the clinic work and he told the lady "Too bad, you are cute this thin" or something like that? Saying that to somebody who is purging (bulemic I think it is) is not good.

One of the best lines of the night! :D

My favorite part of last nights episode was that Foreman came up with the clever solution to help diagnose the patient instead of House. Very nice to see the underlings slowly starting to help out with the cases.

.. what an ass House proved to be. This was the first time during the show when I called him a**hole.
Yeah, same here!
My wife and I just looked at eachother at the same exact time and said "what an a$$"! He's nutz sometimes. The scene with the hug from Cuddy was hilarious as his arms slowly came out and around to grab her butt... classic!


PS... Dave Matthews was excellent!

Didn't care for this episode that much, was rather slow. Obviously it wasn't going to be house, etc. etc. Kind of sad at the end so that was a nice change, but overall, not that great for me.

lol, i rewound that but scene three times.:D

and Cameron needs to eat.

Oh, and we get to wait ANOTHER 3 weeks for a new episode. :rolleyes:

After that though, we get 9 straight new episodes.

why didn't they just hold off on this episode and then just have 10 episodes straight. this is silly to have one episode and wait 3 weeks for another one.

Does anyone know the name and artist of the song at the end of the episode, when House was looking through window at Chase and Cameron in the restaurant?

I'm pretty sure most of the songs in this episode were Dave Matthews' songs. At least it sounded like him anyway.

why didn't they just hold off on this episode and then just have 10 episodes straight. this is silly to have one episode and wait 3 weeks for another one.

because this is the week that american idol is only an hour. Next week it will be longer again...

Donald :)

Does anyone know the name and artist of the song at the end of the episode, when House was looking through window at Chase and Cameron in the restaurant?
I'm pretty sure its Gomez. Ironically, I heard Gomez as the opening act before a Dave Matthews concert.

Yes it was, incidental music for Fox shows is usually listed on their site:

http://fox.com/house/features/music.htm

I had high hopes for this episode, but to me it was just average. Dave Matthews did a great job though.

Was he the patient that played the piano? Whoever that was did do a nice job.

Was he the patient that played the piano? Whoever that was did do a nice job.

Dave Matthews

My wife told me she read (either E!, EW, can't remember -- sorry) that Hugh played his own piano scenes, while Dave had a "hand double" as he isn't quite good enough at piano to play what his character required. Now if it was a guitarist savant....

There was a slow pan from House's hands playing to his head.

If you saw Hugh Laurie on "Inside the Actor's Studio", you'd know he can play the piano quite well - and hilariously funny.

My wife told me she read (either E!, EW, can't remember -- sorry) that Hugh played his own piano scenes, while Dave had a "hand double" as he isn't quite good enough at piano to play what his character required. Now if it was a guitarist savant....

There is a nice video interview of Hugh and Dave on the Fox website that talks about this. Its funny to hear Hugh's British accent-he almost sounds friendly.

AAARRRGGHHHH!!! Sorry, but I'm having some major House withdrawl right now. Reruns don't cut it. :(

And by the time Heroes comes back on, I might be addicted to Vicondin. ;)

I think that there are eight or nine new episodes starting this Tuesday.

I think that there are eight or nine new episodes starting this Tuesday.

Thank goodness.

I'm tired of being interrupted by AI

AAARRRGGHHHH!!! Sorry, but I'm having some major House withdrawl right now. Reruns don't cut it. :(

And by the time Heroes comes back on, I might be addicted to Vicondin. ;)



i have pulled a muscle in my back this week and have been taking painkillers like candy. i have found that the response of "I dont have a pain management problem, i have a pain problem" works really well. God i love house.

Looking at the 2-year-old episode, I noticed how grainy the HD looked. Recent episodes are much better PQ-wise showing constant improvement in technology.

Looking at the 2-year-old episode, I noticed how grainy the HD looked. Recent episodes are much better PQ-wise showing constant improvement in technology.

When House first started, I think there was a definite, and intentional brown hue to the show. I don't remember when I first noticed a change, but they don't do it anymore and it gives the appearance of being sharper. I don't think it was anything to do with technolog; I think it is a choice made by whoever it is that makes such choices.

No comments on tonight's ep, "Top Secret"? I missed it, and I can't find any date for a rebroadcast. :frown:

For me : Annoying.

The pee plot wasn't funny, or interesting and went way too far, and the Cuttey thing is over the top and really did not make any sense.

"Have you ever been in a porno?" :p :D

"Have you ever been in a porno?" :p :D

Was House trying to figure out where he had seen the Marine and thought that maybe it was in a porn film? :confused:


I've been tivoing both the HD and Sd analog versions of the 3 shows that I watch on Fox. Had to switch from the HD version of House at around minute 43 due to dropouts. Have to say, when HD is working right, it makes SD analog look really bad.

Yes.

The pee plot I thought was effective reinforcement about House being in total denial/apathy about his drug abuse. Yes the pills are for pain management but he also seems to use them recreationally. Lay off the pills...or jam a tube up your own urethra.
That isn't much of a choice to me...

In past episodes (or seasons, can't recall) they have alluded to a tryst between House and Cuddy, I guess that cat is out of the bag now.

The Tritter storyline seems like it was sooooo long ago.

Tritter who?

LOL. :D

Didn't enjoy this episode at all. Found it boring. :(

It wasn't boring, per say. Just a little weird in my opinion. I didn't understand the whole patient/military/house connection. I loved the part when the bag ripped in his dream and he was spewing tons of urine over the floor and he wakes up in a bed full of pee. That has happened to me a few times, minus the bed full of pee. :)

As always, House in entertaining eventhough it wasn't the best of episodes.

I actually liked the episode quite a bit. I think it rather interesting that House first had to solve where he had seen the marine before he could really give 100 percent of his effort to actually curing the guy. Rather selffish but very House-like.

I really liked it.

Unlike the boring and ridiculous Tritter side story that took forever and revealed absolutely nothing, this single episode gave us a plethora of information and lots to think about. House has certainly become accustomed to enduring pain, given his mild reaction to self-catheterization. The dream was easy enough to understand, though I don't see the reasoning behind House picturing the kid taking care of him when it was obviously going to be the other way around.

It's been quite apparent for a looooooonnnnngggg time now that House desperately wants/needs to be with Cuddy (again). She's a stabilizing force in his life and she does have a great ass, as was pointed out for the umpteenth time last night. Her reaction to his somehow still being threatened by some guy kissing her 2 years ago was both touching and then suddenly a bit sad as she walked away. I think a large part of her really does want to be with House, but they can no longer cross that line because of work.

I also found the corelating storyline with Cameron and Chase to be quite revealing as well. She's becoming more and more like House every day, though her reasons for doing so aren't spawned from physical pain, but from a purely emotional perspective.

I've nearly gotten to the point that I wish someone would severely hurt Wilson...and I mean severely. He needs to undergo some trauma that causes him enough pain so as to understand what House lives with daily. Yes, House takes meds, but Wilson's incessant nagging about it and acting as though it's completely ruining House's life is getting a little old. It's almost as though Wilson had some abusive aunt on meds molest him as a kid, never got over it, and blames the drugs rather than the person.

Great episode.

It's been quite apparent for a looooooonnnnngggg time now that House desperately wants/needs to be with Cuddy (again). She's a stabilizing force in his life and she does have a great ass, as was pointed out for the umpteenth time last night. Her reaction to his somehow still being threatened by some guy kissing her 2 years ago was both touching and then suddenly a bit sad as she walked away. I think a large part of her really does want to be with House, but they can no longer cross that line because of work.

So were House and Cuddy together 2 years ago? I missed parts of that conversation.

I loved the line "After the first 9 or 10 inches it isn't that bad." :p

No, from my understanding with what little has been given in the past 3 years is that Cuddy and House got it on long before House got married to Stacey and while they were in graduate school. House saw the marine kissing Cuddy 2 years ago and it made him subconsciously jealous, though he perhaps didn't fully realize the extent of his desire/need for her until this episode. House's blatant interruption of Cuddy's date a few episodes back, the scenes with the fertility shots and his irritation/insecurity at the possibility of Wilson being a donor, and other sabotage-like events of her lovelife were a prelude to this plotline now beginning to take some shape.

Even though Cuddy and House have not revisited their romance since, it's quite apparent that House wants her all to himself, as she's the only one that challenges him anymore, what with Stacey remarried.

Since I've seen this coming from the pilot episode, I'm highly excited to see where they take this. :)

When I saw the tube he was going to stick into his "whoo-hoo", I said "nuh-uh, no way!" and my wife told me that's the size they use and I almost fainted.

I don't want to be awake if I ever need one of those...

...Yes, House takes meds, but Wilson's incessant nagging about it and acting as though it's completely ruining House's life...

Boy, are we on opposite sides of the fence on that one. You don't think Wilson sincerely believes exactly that and is acting to save a friend? You really think it's nagging? And just about every episode reinforces the fact that House is a flawed character and that the drugs (pain induced or not) are the primary cause. Wilson is acting as a friend and fellow physician IMO and takes much more grief than he ever doles out.

So House saw Cuddy and this marine 2 years ago? Was this actually in an episode, (ie. did WE see it too?) or was it off camera?

Loved the episode. The "Were you ever in a porno?" line had me roaring. House rules.

Boy, are we on opposite sides of the fence on that one. You don't think Wilson sincerely believes exactly that and is acting to save a friend? You really think it's nagging? And just about every episode reinforces the fact that House is a flawed character and that the drugs (pain induced or not) are the primary cause. Wilson is acting as a friend and fellow physician IMO and takes much more grief than he ever doles out.
I think Wilson's motives are pure, if only in the fact that he actually believes the vicodin makes House "flawed" to some degree. HOWEVER, Stacey flat-out said that House was exactly how he is now when they were married, which was before the leg incident and the vicodin. House doesn't have "failed" relationships with people because of the meds, he simply avoids them because they're pointless to him and complicate things, or he has "successful" relationships with those he choses to. Wilson takes it because, quite honestly, he's a pu$$y. A nice guy for sure, but still a pu$$y nonetheless.

So House saw Cuddy and this marine 2 years ago? Was this actually in an episode, (ie. did WE see it too?) or was it off camera?
The incident with the marine was off camera, but we did see the party.

I've been tivoing both the HD and Sd analog versions of the 3 shows that I watch on Fox. Had to switch from the HD version of House at around minute 43 due to dropouts. Have to say, when HD is working right, it makes SD analog look really bad.


Did anyone else have this issue? I am in Richmond, VA (Comcast) and had the same problem at the same time....Fox issue? Kinda hard to believe in the coincidence.

After this episode all I have to say is that there should be more women like Cameron :D

After this episode all I have to say is that there should be more women like Cameron :D


In our dreams. :D :D :D :D :D ...

When I saw the tube he was going to stick into his "whoo-hoo", I said "nuh-uh, no way!" and my wife told me that's the size they use and I almost fainted.I don't want to be awake if I ever need one of those...

Been there, done that..several times. And, I can assure you that the fact that it's
a good looking, baby-doll nurse does NOT help one bit. And is why when House started that I left the room....I would think that sitting up for it would make it much worse .. :eek:

When I saw the tube he was going to stick into his "whoo-hoo", I said "nuh-uh, no way!" and my wife told me that's the size they use and I almost fainted.

I don't want to be awake if I ever need one of those...

I had the same reaction. My wife also works in the medical field, and she also said that was the size they use! :eek:

After this episode all I have to say is that there should be more women like Cameron :D



I'm dating one. :D


Anyways, i did think this episode was a little weird but still a good House episode.

I had the same reaction. My wife also works in the medical field, and she also said that was the size they use! :eek:

So the Urethra stretches quit a bit huh :eek: . Sheesh, if I ever get so sick I can't use the bathroom myself, just take me out of my misery.

Again, the catheter incident is yet another example of how much pain House can and does endure on a daily basis after his infarction. The writers struck gold on this scene, imo, giving men something very tangible and very horrifying to think about. Having had this procedure done for my own surgery, I can honestly say it would be extremely difficult to self-perform.

The 8-9 inches statement was an intelligent "joke", as only roughly 1/2 of a man's "unit" is outside the body, btw.

Yes, House takes meds, but Wilson's incessant nagging about it and acting as though it's completely ruining House's life is getting a little old. No its not. The man can't even pee anymore. :rolleyes:

And if he doesn't take his vicodin, he can't even do ANYTHING other than writhe in pain.

I think Wilson's motives are pure, if only in the fact that he actually believes the vicodin makes House "flawed" to some degree. HOWEVER, Stacey flat-out said that House was exactly how he is now when they were married, which was before the leg incident and the vicodin. House doesn't have "failed" relationships with people because of the meds, he simply avoids them because they're pointless to him and complicate things, or he has "successful" relationships with those he choses to. Wilson takes it because, quite honestly, he's a pu$$y. A nice guy for sure, but still a pu$$y nonetheless.

I think people need to remember that House is an updated Sherlock Homes - no personal life, all logic, good friend Watson/Wilson, cocaine/Vicodin, violin/piano, lives on Baker's Street even I believe (and of course Holmes/House haha); that's who he is, that's his schtick, and the writers are schticking to it.

I think people need to remember that House is an updated Sherlock Homes - no personal life, all logic, good friend Watson/Wilson, cocaine/Vicodin, violin/piano, lives on Baker's Street even I believe (and of course Holmes/House haha); that's who he is, that's his schtick, and the writers are schticking to it.

That's an interesting take on it, and I would be hard pressed to argue against the similarities.

He does live on Baker's Street, I remember that from an earlier episode.

He does live on Baker's Street, I remember that from an earlier episode.

And Sherlock Holmes lived in a house. Spooky!

Actually, now that I think about it, Wilson is NOT a nice guy, just a pu$$y around House. He's an adulterer, he's judgemental, and he obviously has subconscious jealously to some degree toward his best friend.

In fact, all the characters have their flaws and are "damaged". Chase was a spoiled rich boy that couldn't please daddy, and often lets his religious upbringing cloud his judgement. Cameron's insecurities lead her to need to be needed, though she is trying so hard to overcome that "weakness" that she is turning to the dark side with her recent strained bitchiness. Foreman, with his somewhat troubled past, continually strives to be something more than the sum of his parts. Plus, he has a habit of making everything a racial issue. Cuddy allows people to walk all over her, despite her position of power. In short, House has his vicodin, everyone else has their own demons.

All of this matters little to me, as I appreciate and love all the characters because of their flaws, not despite them.

Actually, now that I think about it, Wilson is NOT a nice guy, just a pu$$y around House. He's an adulterer, he's judgemental, and he obviously has subconscious jealously to some degree toward his best friend.

In fact, all the characters have their flaws and are "damaged". Chase was a spoiled rich boy that couldn't please daddy, and often lets his religious upbringing cloud his judgement. Cameron's insecurities lead her to need to be needed, though she is trying so hard to overcome that "weakness" that she is turning to the dark side with her recent strained bitchiness. Foreman, with his somewhat troubled past, continually strives to be something more than the sum of his parts. Plus, he has a habit of making everything a racial issue. Cuddy allows people to walk all over her, despite her position of power. In short, House has his vicodin, everyone else has their own demons.

All of this matters little to me, as I appreciate and love all the characters because of their flaws, not despite them.

Nice post, and I agree. Normally with television shows, there are a few characters that I like, and a few I dislike (or could care less about). With House, I enjoy all of the "main" characters.

Though I really wish they'd bring Sela Ward back for a few episodes, her character was great.

"Sorry... Just realized I forgot to TiVo 'Alien'"

ROTLFMAO

He does live on Baker's Street, I remember that from an earlier episode.

at 221b Baker's Street.

I think I'm getting bored with House. Last night's show was OK at best and next week's show looks over the top. Its time for a new character.

I think I'm getting bored with House. Last night's show was OK at best and next week's show looks over the top. Its time for a new character.

Really? Well, of course people have different perspectives. After weeks and weeks of what I thought were the same old episodes in different clothing I was pleasantly surprised last night.

For the FIRST time I can ever remember House was beaten at his own game. He was "wrong", Cuddy was "right". Now of course House's message at the end was correct, Cuddy was lucky, but the same could be said of House any number of times. Previously he was infallible, this is the first time I can remember him being hung by his own petard. In fact, I was SO sure of this that even at the end when House was talking to the woman in her hospital room, I was SURE she was going to stroke out or something.

One of the better episodes I can remember (again IMO). Unfortunately I missed most of it as I can't stand the sight of blood. :)


=NLK=

I liked this episode. It was an episode about self discovery. House made Cuddy realize she identified with the 42 year old pregnant patient. She helped Chase see how he lights up when he's around Cameron. Cameron saw a glow in Chase. House made a revelation when the infant touched him; he stopped calling it a fetus and started referring to it as a baby.

There may not be any new characters, but the current characters were shown in a different light. I think they call that -- character development.

I think I'm getting bored with House. Last night's show was OK at best and next week's show looks over the top. Its time for a new character.


Well, I guess the writers tried to change the story with the little sex thing going on beiside the whole House story. The story right now is very weak, because it`s always the same rotation, different problems, House always has a twist with everyone at the start, next part he stays on his words, sometimes he`s right from the start, sometimes he struggles but he gets always right at the end.


Well, I would vote for a new guy, same level as House. Let`s see what they have for the final.

Doug

I think adding a character on the same level as House may not yield the desired result.

The same thing happened on Bones where they brought in another FBI agent as her love interest; it changed the chemistry of the show. The focus shifted to the so called love triange and away from the dynamics of the team. It did not work.

I thought it was a powerful episode. The moment the baby's hand reached out and touched House was surreal. And yes, his comment has hilarious :) The show continues to excel in my eyes ...

I thought it was a powerful episode. The moment the baby's hand reached out and touched House was surreal. And yes, his comment has hilarious :) The show continues to excel in my eyes ...

Honestly, if it wasn't for that one moment in this episode, I would have thought the entire episode was pretty forgettable. But this one scene really brought it all together.

Honestly, if it wasn't for that one moment in this episode, I would have thought the entire episode was pretty forgettable. But this one scene really brought it all together.

I'm just a little puzzled by that scene. Did it really touch House when the baby grabbed his finger? If so, how could he decide to give up and not keep trying like Cuddy to save both mom and baby? He was two seconds away from cutting the baby's lifeline.

It cleary showed House affected by the unborn "fetus", what made him decide to act the way he did?

Honestly, if it wasn't for that one moment in this episode, I would have thought the entire episode was pretty forgettable. But this one scene really brought it all together.

I was critical the last time House (the show) dealt with the issue of "abortion"/definition of life. I thought the writers took the easy way out. I think this episode brilliantly balanced that episode. I didn't enjoy the soap opera elements. I like it better when each episode is more of a stand alone, while briefly touching on character arcs. A better than average episode last night.

I'm just a little puzzled by that scene. Did it really touch House when the baby grabbed his finger? If so, how could he decide to give up and not keep trying like Cuddy to save both mom and baby? He was two seconds away from cutting the baby's lifeline.

It cleary showed House affected by the unborn "fetus", what made him decide to act the way he did?

The same thing that made him snap out of it and say "Sorry... Just realized I forgot to TiVo 'Alien"

House being House. He was also playing the odds. As he told Cuddy later, the odds did not support her doing what she did.

He was still affected by the hand grabbing his finger though, if you noticed the very last scene with him looking at his hand......

The same thing that made him snap out of it and say "Sorry... Just realized I forgot to TiVo 'Alien"


That particular scene/remark had a extra special bit of hilarity for me personally. When my brother's wife gave birth to my nephew, my brother's first comment was "it looks like an alien". :p :D

Yet another EXCELLENT episode!

Having the baby "touch" House as apparently nobody else can, and showing Cuddy attempting to conjure up some of House's "mojo" with the ball nearly made me forget about the boring and ridiculous Tritter debacle...but only nearly. That painfully pedantic, pointlessly peripheral, putridly preachy, and perilously pontificate plotline almost killed the whole show for me. :(

Adding more characters to House is like putting catsup on caviar. :confused:

I really enjoyed last night's too. The "Alien" comment was priceless as was the "Jungle fever" line.

I think the Tritter storyline really worked well initially. Tritter was a great foil and fun adversary for House - since he had a lot of potential to screw with House and because he was very clever. The problem arose when they took things too far and dragged it out too long. It got so that House was so screwed legally, there was really no good way to resolve it - and they certainly didn't! Tritter started off as the "good guy" in the feud, which I thought really worked (not that we weren't all rooting for House regardless). But, then he became so obsessed with House it just went in the wrong direction. Too bad, as I thought it had potential.

how did she develop her photos? i didnt realize they had a 1 hr photo at the hospital....

how did she develop her photos? i didnt realize they had a 1 hr photo at the hospital....

I must have said that at least 3 times to my wife last night. Photography is one of my hobbies, so I notice things like this. And even though it was a digital camera, she still would have needed access to a computer and printer.

They could have at least spent 2 or 3 seconds explaining how they let her use a computer/printer to get those prints.

Digital SLR camera + digital photo printer = about 6 pounds and easily fits in a small bag.

8 X 10 photos they hang at the end were obviously part of the continued timeline.

Digital SLR camera + digital photo printer = about 6 pounds and easily fits in a small bag.

8 X 10 photos they hang at the end were obviously part of the continued timeline.

I thought of that, but they never showed the printer.

Also, photos were shown before the end of the show. Chase was looking at a picture (print) of Cameron when the patient took his picture.

I thought of that, but they never showed the printer.
I distinctly remember seeing a printer on a table next to her bed.

I distinctly remember seeing a printer on a table next to her bed.

Really!?

Anyone else see it?

This little tidbit would have made quite a difference had I noticed it. My wife didn't see it either.

I'll skim through the episode on my DVR and see if I can find it.

Also, photos were shown before the end of the show. Chase was looking at a picture (print) of Cameron when the patient took his picture.
Hence the photo printer. The pics that Chase looked at were 4X6 and the final ones were 8X10.

Some photo printers are tiny. The Olympus I used to use was about the size of a hdd.

This little tidbit would have made quite a difference had I noticed it. My wife didn't see it either.
Immediately after the first commercial break, the printer is sitting right on the table next to her bed.

Immediately after the first commercial break, the printer is sitting right on the table next to her bed.

Thanks Jeremy. I guess I wasn't paying that much attention that early in the show, since I don't think that she had actually made any prints at that point.

Anyway, I feel better about the whole situation now! ;)

I don't think that she had actually made any prints at that point.
She hadn't, that was the first shot of her in the hospital. Glad I could clear everything up for you. ;)

They have to SHOW a printer for you to believe that a professional photographer can make prints without days of work?

DSLRs these days can have wireless built in. You should be able to set up a computer to instantly print every photo you take, as you take it, without so much as pausing before the next shot. Obviously, the speed of the printer would be an important variable.

Not that I'm suggesting the character did this as she lay dying. Just seems this discussion has lost it.

I thought it was a powerful episode. The moment the baby's hand reached out and touched House was surreal. And yes, his comment has hilarious :) The show continues to excel in my eyes ...
Art imitating life. Based on a real event.

Look familiar? (http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/b/babysamuel.htm)
And further explaination takes some of the drama out of it. (http://www.snopes.com/photos/medical/thehand.asp)

They have to SHOW a printer for you to believe that a professional photographer can make prints without days of work?...Just seems this discussion has lost it.

Whereas usually I'm on the side of "24" and "Prison Break" type discussions of fantasy plots and "that couldn't really happen" moments, I think Spiky is right on this one. Maybe it's the other shows' various excessive liberties with believability that brings up such discussions, but this one is a little silly and niggling. Now, if this were a thread on a fascination with continuity errors in films, etc, I would feel differently. But this talk of the existence of the printer is getting pretty picky in critiquing a really quality show about something so inconsequential and irrelevant.

Briefly OT (but somewhat relevant) - I just watched the HD-DVD remaster of the Errol Flynn original Robin Hood. I've seen it dozens of times, but in the HD version I noticed a car drive by on a road in the background of a scene where the character is dismounting his horse on a forest trail. Not that's continuity problems!

Briefly OT (but somewhat relevant) - I just watched the HD-DVD remaster of the Errol Flynn original Robin Hood. I've seen it dozens of times, but in the HD version I noticed a car drive by on a road in the background of a scene where the character is dismounting his horse on a forest trail. Not that's continuity problems!

A car driving though a medieval forest scene is actually an anachronism; a continuity error would be if the car was driving the wrong way after a jump cut.

Not that I'm suggesting the character did this as she lay dying. Just seems this discussion has lost it.

The printer discussion fits the thread because:

1) this is an HD board and we are sticklers for details

2) House is a show that prides itself on accuracy. Everything is explainable.

A car driving though a medieval forest scene is actually an anachronism; a continuity error would be if the car was driving the wrong way after a jump cut.

Of course, you are correct. A car would be an anachronism in the example. I made the error of generalizing such film errors of things out of place or added/missing from scene to scene, etc as "continuity" problems. Thanks for the correction.

One of the things that keeps bothering me about this show is the doctors seem to know how to do everything. They perform every single test. They review every single piece of film and analyzes it. They run all the equipment, MRI, cat scan, they do all the surgeries. No doctor is like that. That is why they have experts in each area. I hate when I see them going to perform another test. And they are so wide and varying, from sleep tests, to cancer tests. Its crazy.

Well, to be fair they do have areas of specialty... Foreman alsways does the brain surgeries for instance :)

Anyone else notice the error when House was on the phone trying to buy airline tickets? He incorrectly requested a "Direct" flight when he should have asked for "non-stop." He said he didn't want to stop in (listed 3 cities) on the way to wherever, but House would have known that by definition a direct flight makes one or more intermediate stops prior to reaching the final destination, whereas a non-stop flight makes no such stops. ;)

Anyone else notice the error when House was on the phone trying to buy airline tickets? He incorrectly requested a "Direct" flight when he should have asked for "non-stop." He said he didn't want to stop in (listed 3 cities) on the way to wherever, but House would have known that by definition a direct flight makes one or more intermediate stops prior to reaching the final destination, whereas a non-stop flight makes no such stops. ;)

Or Hugh Laurie could have instinctively used the English English "direct" which mean's the same as the American English "non-stop" :) and they did not have the time/money to reshoot the scene. At "home" HL would not have been "incorrect" :) whereas House would be :)

Anyone else notice the error when House was on the phone trying to buy airline tickets? He incorrectly requested a "Direct" flight when he should have asked for "non-stop." He said he didn't want to stop in (listed 3 cities) on the way to wherever, but House would have known that by definition a direct flight makes one or more intermediate stops prior to reaching the final destination, whereas a non-stop flight makes no such stops. ;)

Relax, enjoy the show. :p

interesting ep tonight

poor kitty :(

"200 passengers on the plane. Ten should be gay, two should be with child, and one should be incredibly annoying with an extra ass chromosome."

An extra ass chromosome?
Are you kidding me?!
Brilliant!

Really enjoyed tonight's episode. Lots of very funny moments.

"He is a mule."
"More like a jackass."

"200 passengers on the plane. Ten should be gay, two should be with child, and one should be incredibly annoying with an extra ass chromosome."

An extra ass chromosome?
Are you kidding me?!
Brilliant!

I was guessing that Cutty would be one of the "Two with child", especially when he started examining her, but no pay off yet.

Well, probably not, since Cuddy was the "extra ass chromosome."

One of the things that keeps bothering me about this show is the doctors seem to know how to do everything. They perform every single test. They review every single piece of film and analyzes it. They run all the equipment, MRI, cat scan, they do all the surgeries. No doctor is like that. That is why they have experts in each area. I hate when I see them going to perform another test. And they are so wide and varying, from sleep tests, to cancer tests. Its crazy.

Well, in order for the show to be interesting they sort of have to do that, but given that they're all in diagnostic medicine, I'd imagine a pretty big prerequisite in that field is knowledge of performing a large swath of tests and exploratory procedures.

Plus, each has their own concentration: Wilson does oncology, Foreman does neurology, Chase specializes in intensive care, and Cameron specializes in being an annoying bitch. Or maybe it's immunology, I forget.

They generally do a good job of keeping the kids aligned with their specialities.

...and Cameron specializes in being an annoying bitch. Or maybe it's immunology, I forget.




:D

I have wondered how much of that is acting, and how much is type casting.

Another subpar episode for me. Mass hysteria is a pretty silly storyline. And the fill-ins for House's team were just dumb. The woman was like a caricature of Angela from the Office. Funny, but hardly believable. They make Cuddy a weak-minded idiot. Even after House finds the newly issued diver certification card she still doesn't realize its the bends. I am glad that Chase and Cameron are breaking up.

So now they can perform mammograms.

My problem is not only are they peforming all these tests themselves. They are analyzing it themselves. That is the real problem. There are experts to read these things, heck hospitals even send things out to other places, but these three are able to do all tests and analyze the results of all tests. Totally unrealistic.

This episode was boring in my opinion. I was totally pumped up to watch it. House outside the hospital, stuck on a plane. And then they go the route of, your brain caused you to imagine all the symptoms and your brain made you develop vomitting and a rash. I can't buy that one no matter what.

I did like how House said, Wrong again, when he diagnosed the patient and was about to cut into him. However, I like the House that is always right and gets these things, he looses a little something in my eyes when he keeps guessing and is wrong.

.. They make Cuddy a weak-minded idiot. Even after House finds the newly issued diver certification card she still doesn't realize its the bends. ...

Neither did House, until he found the diving receipt from the day before ..

Neither did House, until he found the diving receipt from the day before ..But he noticed that pressure on the joints relieved the pain, so that's why he went looking. He suspected that it was the bends.

And the receipt was a little too convenient.

I really think House is the one with the extra ass Chromosone...

When the Flight Attendant asked for a doctor, House piped up "I'll go get her", and then sent Cuddy forward without telling her there was a sick passenger.

Walt

Really enjoyed tonight's episode. Lots of very funny moments.

"He is a mule."
"More like a jackass."
I liked, "I'm a board certified infectious diseases specialist; she assigns parking spaces."

But he noticed that pressure on the joints relieved the pain, so that's why he went looking. He suspected that it was the bends.

And the receipt was a little too convenient.

I believe they found the receipt before they even thought it was the bends. They looked through his wallet before the operation to try to find out where he went in Singapore.

I could be wrong though.

So, they were flying from Singapore to New England area and they were half-way there once they reached the north pole? Huh? Doesn't seem to make sense.

Also doesn't make sense that there only seemed to be one flight attendant.

Another subpar episode for me. Mass hysteria is a pretty silly storyline. And the fill-ins for House's team were just dumb. The woman was like a caricature of Angela from the Office. Funny, but hardly believable. They make Cuddy a weak-minded idiot. Even after House finds the newly issued diver certification card she still doesn't realize its the bends. I am glad that Chase and Cameron are breaking up.
All good TV stories require a willingness to suspend disbelief to a certain degree and House is no exception. I thought that last night’s episode was a lot of fun. My only criticism is that the illness caused by the toxin that invaded the old lady’s house, killed her cat, and made her sick in last night’s episode was very similar to an earlier episode where a termite infestation in a teenaged boy’s house nearly killed him

House’s character is one-of-a-kind on TV and Laurie does a great job with him. His combination of boorishness and charm tickles me to death and his American accent is amazing. Most Brits, even the exceptionally talented ones, can’t sustain a U.S. accent that’s even close to being as convincing as Laurie’s.

I keep being reminded that while the storylines are pretty fanciful the absolute best things about House are the politically incorrect lines he's allowed to utter at every turn. There was a gem or two last week and this week's "fly low enough to club baby seals" was a gut buster.

=NLK=

Its funny how House's character on TV can get away with it and we find that as part of his charm, but Imus does it and they're throwing him under the bus.

Its funny how House's character on TV can get away with it and we find that as part of his charm, but Imus does it and they're throwing him under the bus.
I don't recall House making any obvious racial slurs. Politically incorrect comments, sure, but there's a line.

That said, I still think the Imus thing is ridiculous. I'm not a fan and I think he's a racist, but the fact that this has become such a big deal is a sad comment on our society. The guy's an idiot, but he's an entertainer. He tried to make a joke and failed miserably. It's certainly not the first offensive thing he's said in his career, in fact, it probably is not even close to the worst. If you're offended, turn him off. This is not a senator, a congressman, or a presidential candidate. He's a buffoon.

I don't recall House making any obvious racial slurs. Politically incorrect comments, sure, but there's a line.

That said, I still think the Imus thing is ridiculous. I'm not a fan and I think he's a racist, but the fact that this has become such a big deal is a sad comment on our society. The guy's an idiot, but he's an entertainer. He tried to make a joke and failed miserably. It's certainly not the first offensive thing he's said in his career, in fact, it probably is not even close to the worst. If you're offended, turn him off. This is not a senator, a congressman, or a presidential candidate. He's a buffoon.

Any they rally around trying to get him fired and the players saying they are scared for life. Scared for life? What about all the rappers that sing about a lot worse then that, throwing the n word around and everything else. No one seems to rally to get them fired. Hypocritical.

All good TV stories require a willingness to suspend disbelief to a certain degree and House is no exception. I thought that last night’s episode was a lot of fun. My only criticism is that the illness caused by the toxin that invaded the old lady’s house, killed her cat, and made her sick in last night’s episode was very similar to an earlier episode where a termite infestation in a teenaged boy’s house nearly killed him

There was also a similar story on CSI a couple of years ago.

So now they can perform mammograms.

My problem is not only are they peforming all these tests themselves. They are analyzing it themselves. That is the real problem. There are experts to read these things, heck hospitals even send things out to other places, but these three are able to do all tests and analyze the results of all tests. Totally unrealistic.

Not exactly. It's common for the physicians to participate in "wet reads" to get preliminary results from an exam while it is in progress or immediately after.

However, there would certainly be a technologist present to actually perform the exam, and most likely a radiologist to look at the images. House's staff seem to fill all these roles. Heck, they even drill into people's brains in the operating room. So clearly there's some suspension of disbelief required here...

I don't recall House making any obvious racial slurs. Politically incorrect comments, sure, but there's a line.

That said, I still think the Imus thing is ridiculous. I'm not a fan and I think he's a racist, but the fact that this has become such a big deal is a sad comment on our society. The guy's an idiot, but he's an entertainer. He tried to make a joke and failed miserably. It's certainly not the first offensive thing he's said in his career, in fact, it probably is not even close to the worst. If you're offended, turn him off. This is not a senator, a congressman, or a presidential candidate. He's a buffoon.

House used to jokingly harp on the fact that he hired Foreman for his "street smarts" and his ability to break into patients houses.

Two problems with the Imus situation. First, the target. Why target college girls playing basketball with a racial slur. Second, what was the joke anyway? It wasn't funny and I don't think it was a joke. I believe that if it was 50 years ago he would have dropped the n word in place of "ho"

It doesn't matter either way. He'll lose his job if all the advertisers go away. He'll keep it if they stay. It comes down to money.

All good TV stories require a willingness to suspend disbelief to a certain degree and House is no exception. I thought that last night’s episode was a lot of fun. My only criticism is that the illness caused by the toxin that invaded the old lady’s house, killed her cat, and made her sick in last night’s episode was very similar to an earlier episode where a termite infestation in a teenaged boy’s house nearly killed him.

Which, unfortunately, Fox ran Monday night at 8:00. Although I think they ran that episode solely for the opening with the Porsche to subliminally promote Drive.

I don't recall House making any obvious racial slurs. Politically incorrect comments, sure, but there's a line.

That said, I still think the Imus thing is ridiculous. I'm not a fan and I think he's a racist, but the fact that this has become such a big deal is a sad comment on our society. The guy's an idiot, but he's an entertainer. He tried to make a joke and failed miserably. It's certainly not the first offensive thing he's said in his career, in fact, it probably is not even close to the worst. If you're offended, turn him off. This is not a senator, a congressman, or a presidential candidate. He's a buffoon.

House has made plenty of racial slurs to Foreman over the seasons, though it's died down a bit. I remember in Season One, House was calling for Foreman, "Doctor Mandingo, you're needed at the plantation."

Sounds racist to me.

And I watch Imus, he isn't a racist, he made a bad joke. If he were a racist, only white kids would be at his ranch.

Two problems with the Imus situation. First, the target. Why target college girls playing basketball with a racial slur. Second, what was the joke anyway? It wasn't funny and I don't think it was a joke.
It doesn't matter either way. He'll lose his job if all the advertisers go away. He'll keep it if they stay. It comes down to money.
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On his good days he is offensive and obnoxious, other days- he's almost incoherent. Imus has worn out his welcome here in NY, time to retire Don and his sorry act.

Imus needed the Washington DC spin machine to the rescue. He could have responded by saying "What makes you think I'm referring to the black players?" It still would have been sexist but would have died quickly.

He's a buffoon.

He is a VERY RICH buffoon. And yes, that is his "charm." I have been a fan for 25 years and yes, he stepped over the line on this one. You don't go after private citizens who can sue you back for defamation of character. Stick with the public figures who have no rights in that regard. He knows better.

Well, sadly, I must admit this episode was the worst since they finally kicked Tritter's ass off the show. It's almost as though the producers read all the inane bitching about the recent phenomenal "character development" episodes and decided to give them some lame-duck action hour to quell their tears. The literally vomitous result reminded me of something you'd see on 24 or Prison Break...credibility thrown right out the window for a few cheap thrills that leave no lasting impression whatsoever.

Also, with the ridiculous amount of time they spent on the prostitute, it makes me think she might become a part of the show. Whee. Another auxiliary character with absolutely nothing to offer. The only thing good that comes out of this is showing that Wilson so desperately wants to be like House that he's now hooking up with hookers.

At least House got some good one-liners in.

At least House got some good one-liners in.

I think I cracked up 5-8 times during the show. Let's list them all. Three were already posted (mule, baby seals, parking spaces).

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The literally vomitous result reminded me of something you'd see on 24 or Prison Break...
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I don't know, for some reason the first thing that sprang to mind when they were trying to figure out who had the fish was "Airplane".

=NLK=

OT: Staples and Proctor & Gamble- two major WFAN sponsors have already withdrawn their spots on WFAN. Sponsor Bigelow Tea is on the bubble, and several guests have already canceled their spots on WFAN. There are three protest rallies planned here today, so depending on how many show up for the rallies, more sponsors may withdraw from WFAN in the near future. Don't know how many sponsors want to be linked to people who cause ratial protest ralies.
On his good days he is offensive and obnoxious, other days- he's almost incoherent. Imus has worn out his welcome here in NY, time to retire Don and his sorry act.
I suspect that Imus will be crying all the way to the bank. Media personalities are far more interested in making sure that their names are in the news than they are in their popularity. Here are a couple of examples: First, at the height of his career, Howard Cosell was both the best liked and least liked sportscaster in America. Second, I watched Imus’s show this morning for the first time in years. Not surprisingly, he didn’t talk about anything but the Rutgers Women’s basketball kerfuffle for at least the two hours of the program I watched. I gave up on it after that. In short, Imus is going out of his way to say, “Oh, woe is me, I’m sooo sorry for what I did!” Maybe so, but whether he is or not I am rather firmly convinced that this “scandal,” or whatever else it may be, isn’t going to harm Imus’s career and will probably help it.

Finally, my apologies for extending this off topic discussion by even one more post, but I simply could not help myself this time.

Also, with the ridiculous amount of time they spent on the prostitute, it makes me think she might become a part of the show. Whee. Another auxiliary character with absolutely nothing to offer. The only thing good that comes out of this is showing that Wilson so desperately wants to be like House that he's now hooking up with hookers.


I couldn't figure what that was all about either, other than what you note, she'll become a part-time character given all the superfluous screen time she was given last night.

She is hot though, that's always a plus. :p

What I'm really hoping for is that Wilson dates the hooker and when House meets her, he immediately recognizes her and calls her by name. :D A further twist would be to have House and Wilson both contract the same deadly disease from her and be forced to work together to find a cure, though it's more likely that Cameron will find a way to boink her, given her recent insatiable slut factor. ;)

Also, with the ridiculous amount of time they spent on the prostitute, it makes me think she might become a part of the show. Whee. Another auxiliary character with absolutely nothing to offer.
Nothing to offer?

She's HOT !!

Nothing to offer?

She's HOT !!

INDEED. :D

Well, she is hotter than either Vogler or Tritter :rolleyes:, but she's still likely to bring nothing of significance to the show.

House’s character is one-of-a-kind on TV and Laurie does a great job with him. His combination of boorishness and charm tickles me to death and his American accent is amazing. Most Brits, even the exceptionally talented ones, can’t sustain a U.S. accent that’s even close to being as convincing as Laurie’s.

Well said, most Brit actors can only fake an American accent by doing a strong Southern accent--i.e. Kenneth Branagh. Laurie does a great non-Southern American accent. Even more amazing to me is Alfred Molina, who's real accent is as Brit as you can get but who also does a great Spanish or American accent.

I don't know that Wilson has figured out she is a hooker.


Oh, and please stop on the Imus crap. It has no place in the "House" thread. I am tired of reading and hearing about it.

Well said, most Brit actors can only fake an American accent by doing a strong Southern accent--i.e. Kenneth Branagh. Laurie does a great non-Southern American accent. Even more amazing to me is Alfred Molina, who's real accent is as Brit as you can get but who also does a great Spanish or American accent.

Let's not forget Bob Hoskins in Who Framed Roger Rabbit.

One of my favorite House moments was when he did a bad imitation of Chase's accent.

I don't recall House making any obvious racial slurs. Politically incorrect comments, sure, but there's a line.

That said, I still think the Imus thing is ridiculous. I'm not a fan and I think he's a racist, but the fact that this has become such a big deal is a sad comment on our society. The guy's an idiot, but he's an entertainer. He tried to make a joke and failed miserably. It's certainly not the first offensive thing he's said in his career, in fact, it probably is not even close to the worst. If you're offended, turn him off. This is not a senator, a congressman, or a presidential candidate. He's a buffoon.

I know this is off topic, but I have to agree with this post.

Well said, most Brit actors can only fake an American accent by doing a strong Southern accent--i.e. Kenneth Branagh. Laurie does a great non-Southern American accent. Even more amazing to me is Alfred Molina, who's real accent is as Brit as you can get but who also does a great Spanish or American accent.

I am sorry but most of the Hollywood southern accents are NOT southern accents but a Hollywood contrived dialect of English that is based on an over the top version of Appalachian Mountains accent (ie hillbilly). Most Southerner's hear those accents and we laugh. No one here in the South speaks like that. No one. The successful Southern accents are usually pulled off by actors who are from the South and know what it sounds like.

Reese Witherspoon does an excellent job because her parents are southern and she lived most of her childhood in the south, in and round western Tennennesee. She did one dialect for "Walk The Line" (southern Appalachian) and a different dialect for "Sweet Home Alabama" (more deep south like Louisiana/Mississippi in the "home" scenes toward the end of the movie). The accent Andy Griffith uses is an exaggerated (hillbilly) version of his own true Southern accent which is a western North Carolina mountain accent. The variation of his natural accent and June Carter Cash's accent are minor but very distinguishable considering that both grew up about 120 miles from each other but had several mountain ridges between them from western North Carolina and southwestern Virginia that isolated them from each other.

Sela Ward does a great southern accent but she rarely does one. Hard to believe sometimes she is from Mississippi.

To illustrate it further how Hollywood will twist the Southern accent, when I was in college a girl I dated had a room mate who was studying acting and had a noticeable southern accent (North Carolina midlands dialect, cross between mountain and just plain country, similair to my own natural accent (more country, less mountain) that I have worked on years to soften with varying results) that she worked on constantly to get rid of, with much success. In the mid 90's she got a job on All My Children as Luna Moody. The southern accent that the show had her doing wasn't even close to her true accent but more of a mountain hillbilly accent. I felt so sorry for Susan (Susan Batten was her name). She had worked really hard to lose the accent and then they made her do such an exaggeration of a really bad southern accent.

If you want to hear the difference in a "Hollywood" Southern accent and a true Southern dialect, rent the movie Junebug and listen to the NON union local actors in that movie. There is a difference. That movie was shot just south of Andy Griffith's home town of Mount Airy, North Carolina just north of Winston-Salem in Pfafftown (the first f is silent and pronouced POF-town.)

Hugh Laurie does a fabulous American accent. Very little regional dialect. The proverbial Mid Western accent all broadcasts aspire too. Johnny Carson had it, Dick Cavett has it because they are from the Mid West. They are the models. I had never remembered him before House and so when I learned he was the ENGLISH Hugh Laurie from Black Adder, I fell out! He was so convincing in the House role I missed the connection!

This week when he said the word "condom" I listened closely to see if there were any signs of the English "con-DOM" and didn't hear it either time he said it. That must have killed him to have to say it that way! ;)

What I'm really hoping for is that Wilson dates the hooker and when House meets her, he immediately recognizes her and calls her by name. :D
That would be most excellent!! Can just hear House "Been there..... done that!" then he turns and walks away :eek:



more likely that Cameron will find a way to boink her, given her recent insatiable slut factor. ;)
Gotta love the way she dumped Chase "it was good- now it's over".
Women are sooooooooo cold!!!

Yeah, I really wasn't seeing the Cameron-Chase breakup coming. Man, that was ice cold. She's really undergone a strange series of changes from the first season. I don't particularly like her much anymore, and Cuddy is now much more interesting.

Yeah, I really wasn't seeing the Cameron-Chase breakup coming. Man, that was ice cold. She's really undergone a strange series of changes from the first season. I don't particularly like her much anymore, and Cuddy is now much more interesting.

Yep, I agree on both counts. Cameron's changes haven't really been very well explained imo.

Again, this all goes back to what I've repeatedly said about ALL of the characters and how apparent it is to me that they strive to be like House, despite all their insufferable whining and incessant bitching about his supposed "drug problem". (Thankfully, we finally got a week off from preaching about that non-issue.)

Cameron's coldness toward Chase was indicative of the same type of distant and emotionless relationships that House has with his prostitutes. She obviously still pines for House (who now has a thing for Cuddy), and since she can't do anything to change that, she can only become more like him, just like all the other characters. It's as though they're thinking, "If he loves himself so much, maybe he'll love me if I'm more like him." This is oddly ironic, as House doesn't absolutely love himself, despite his seemingly maniacal ego, nor does he absolutely hate himself, despite what some might say causes his "problem."

I think it's brilliant how the producers have taken the most minute of pieces and given them to us over many episodes, thus allowing us to slowly savor and digest these character transformations in a believable and significant way. By trusting their viewers' intelligence levels and not feeling the need to spell out every detail in a condescending manner, this allows us to have these conversations about the show. Well done!

I can agree with that. It doesn't make me like her any more, but I can agree ;). The House/Cuddy thing is interesting. We know that they hooked up ONCE. You'd assume it was post divorce from Sela Ward (though I could be wrong). It would be nice to see House maybe get a functional love interest, but I guess that's fairly impossible. The quip to the stewardess at the end... "Are you handicap accessible?" was priceless :)

I thought House and Cuddy met at the University of Michigan? Or maybe it was at med school at Hopkins? Either way, I'm guessing that's when they were together.

Well said, most Brit actors can only fake an American accent by doing a strong Southern accent--i.e. Kenneth Branagh. Laurie does a great non-Southern American accent. Even more amazing to me is Alfred Molina, who's real accent is as Brit as you can get but who also does a great Spanish or American accent.
It’s true that many British actors seem to be able to do a very convincing Southern accent. The most recent example is the wonderful Minnie Driver in the terrific new series, The Riches. In stark contrast, Driver’s costar, Eddie Izzard, excellent though he is in the series, affects an American accent that is far less convincing.

I thought House and Cuddy met at the University of Michigan? Or maybe it was at med school at Hopkins? Either way, I'm guessing that's when they were together.

I think you're right. The way I've interpreted it over the seasons, House hooked up with Cuddy before Sela Ward's character.

is it me or is House just getting boring to watch? seems like the show has be slowly going down the drain since last season

is it me or is House just getting boring to watch?
Depends on what episode you look at. If you're talking about this past week, I'd agree completely. If you were talking about the 3 weeks prior to that, I'd say you were insane.

Depends on what episode you look at. If you're talking about this past week, I'd agree completely. If you were talking about the 3 weeks prior to that, I'd say you were insane.
I thought the 3 weeks prior to this week were some of the most boring House episodes I've ever watched. I don't give a rat's behind about "character development" or any of that garbage. It doesn't hold my attention.

Even though I thought this weeks episode was a "lesser" one, I still didn't consider it "boring".

I thought the 3 weeks prior to this week were some of the most boring House episodes I've ever watched. I don't give a rat's behind about "character development" or any of that garbage. It doesn't hold my attention.
Then you obviously need a different kind of "garbage". :confused: Try 24 or Prison Break.

I thought the 3 weeks prior to this week were some of the most boring House episodes I've ever watched. I don't give a rat's behind about "character development" or any of that garbage. It doesn't hold my attention.

Dude, I know! Hey, you have heard about The Cartoon Network, right? It's really, really cool! None of that "character development" garbage that you were talking about. Check it out!

:p

i like 24 and PB and i really think them shows are stronger than House this season, all the episodes have just been snoozers this season

I understand. Shows with eloquent and articualte characters presented in meaningful situations aren't for everyone.

its not the characters, its the same old thing every week, the first 2 seasons was edge of your seat kinda thing, but this year its more mellow dramatic

What do you expect? House and the other characters are employed as medical experts in a stationary hospital. In other words, they have jobs much like most people do. This is in strong contrast to Jackie Boy and Inmate #942158 that go trekking across the country at the drop of a hat, have superhuman powers, and exist in a world where any semblance of reality is negated with a mere thought for the sake of sheer convenience.

The show, House, excels because of the strength and depth of the characters. Rather than use them as a medium to move a story, they ARE the story.

Yeah, I really wasn't seeing the Cameron-Chase breakup coming. Man, that was ice cold. She's really undergone a strange series of changes from the first season. I don't particularly like her much anymore, and Cuddy is now much more interesting.

I just hope House does NOT turn into another show where everyone sleeps with everyone else (ala Grays Anatomy, Men In trees, etc.). These shows just bore me to death after a while and become very predictable. If we all got as much action as these type of shows portray... well let's just say it's SO very unbelievable IMO.

Thanks goodness Jack Bauer doesn't have time for all this hanky-panky :)

Yeah, but if Jack Bauer screams "set up a perimeter" just one more time, I think I'm going to loose it. :)

Then you obviously need a different kind of "garbage". :confused: Try 24 or Prison Break.
I am a big fan of both of those shows. I don't take my entertainment nearly as seriously as some people do.

I just hope House does NOT turn into another show where everyone sleeps with everyone else...If we all got as much action as these type of shows portray... well let's just say it's SO very unbelievable IMO.
Agreed with the first part, saddened for you by the second part. ;)

I guess the girls here are just more slutty than those in CO. :D

I can hang with the Cameron/Chase story line to a point. I do find it interesting that the writers/audience deems it 'appropriate' that Cameron is the pursuer and basically uses Chase as a sex toy, wanting no real commitment. I'm fine with that and don't want to sound like a prude or anything. I have no moral issue with free sex. But do you think if Chase was the pursuer and if he wanted to have at it while at a patients house or while watching a patient's sleep patterns and then blew Cameron off for any kind of real relationship.... do you think this would be acceptable for the audience and writers. Once again, I find it very unbelievable. I guess there are just too few hot slutty chicks in CO or I'm just out of the loop:)

Part fo the appeal of House to me is that it is different than other shows. Except for the repeating story line of let's find the missing disease of patient X, see how smart I am and you are not ... etc. The characters are interesting enough and played well. If it turns into another GA, I will loose interest.

Re Bauer/"set up a perimeter"... I agree, 24 is beginning to repeat itself and may not make it past this season IMO.

Although this season has been a little erratic, I thoroughly enjoyed last night's episode. It's rare that you get that many laugh out loud moments.

Yeah, but if Jack Bauer screams "set up a perimeter" just one more time, I think I'm going to loose it. :)
And don’t forget Jack’s even more frequent exclamations, “Damn!,” and “Son of a bitch!,” one or the other of which, and sometimes both, he utters on multiple occasions in each and every episode. Chloe’s “Fine!,” which means, “Not fine at all!,” is another of 24’s hardy perennials. :)

Still, I like 24 for the same reason I like House: both tell ripping tales, in the service of which they use jarring improbabilities for dramatic effect but do so with perfectly straight faces. It works for me.

Re Bauer/"set up a perimeter"... I agree, 24 is beginning to repeat itself and may not make it past this season IMO.

You are kidding, right? 24 isn't going anywhere, it's ratings are quite good for Fox.

You are kidding, right? 24 isn't going anywhere, it's ratings are quite good for Fox.
I agree with the proposition that 24 will be back. The key to enjoying 24, I think, is to understand that its over-the-top preposterousness adds to its appeal. No matter how objectively silly any situation is, the cast plays it with utter seriousness and gives no indication that they are in on the joke, no matter how hard we may laugh.

I could of swore I just read an article that Kiefer signed on for multiple new seasons of 24 so he is locked in for awhile.

The key to enjoying 24, I think, is to understand that its over-the-top preposterousness adds to its appeal.
I agree completely.

You are kidding, right? 24 isn't going anywhere, it's ratings are quite good for Fox.

Well actually I just meant for me (i.e I'm loosing interest), not that the show will go away.

Well actually I just meant for me (i.e I'm loosing interest), not that the show will go away.

Got ya.

I have to admit that I enjoyed most of last season, until there were about 4 episodes left. Those last 4 episodes were so silly that I really didn't think that I would watch it this year, but I am, and I am glad that I gave it another chance. I'm sure it will get worse again as we get closer to the season finale, but I will enjoy it while it lasts.

I could of swore I just read an article that Kiefer signed on for multiple new seasons of 24 so he is locked in for awhile.

Really, well that's good (I hope).

Sorry to be OT, but....
I read an interview with KS somewhere and it said he works 10 months, is totally burned out and they pay him 10M/yr. Seems like some good bank, but in comparison to 20M/movie for three months work by some other actors, you'd think he'd want to move on. Although, his move career is not really all that great.

Whatever, House and 24 are still the top of my must see list. I need to stay away form these threads, they tend to diminish the value of the program when I over analyze the shows.

I need to stay away form these threads, they tend to diminish the value of the program when I over analyze the shows.

That is an absolute truism! It is one reason that I don't participate in other threads such as CSI and 24. Shows like that are simply open to too much criticism and would reduce my enjoyment of those shows tremendously.

House tends to hold up much better to criticism than many shows, despite some obvious ones (such as the recently discussed issues of doctors performing and interpreting ALL of the tests themselves).

I don't have issue with House and his team doing the tests or the analyses of any of them. Most of the recurrant tests they perform are quite common and fairly simple. LP, DNA, tox screen, cat, std, you name it, they should be able to do it easily.

The fact that they don't have some lackey do the tests and just read the results could be brought up, but House doesn't trust anyone else (including "specialists") and wants to hold his team accountable. That's also the underlying reason his staff is typically present or performing in the OR. they aren't always inside, however, they ARE always at least watching from the "corporate box" that often gives the best bird's-eye view.

Lastly, there's nearly always the issue of TIME. Normal cases would outsource the tests, but you can't wait 24, 48, or 5,762 hours with most of House's patients for some random lab to dink around getting the results back to you. Better to get something rushed and guess than something concrete after the person is dead. ;)

Lastly, there's nearly always the issue of TIME. Normal cases would outsource the tests, but you can't wait 24, 48, or 5,762 hours with most of House's patients...

Nor would it be even remotely entertaining. One thing usually forgotten in these type of complaints is simply: do you really want to watch the truly mundane crap done by the mundane people in reality? Of course not. We want to see the stars, the team, etc. So in many shows, we find characters doing things they would never do in the real world situation. Not just House, but very many others. I think we tend (and I include myself in this criticism) to nit pick a little too much in some cases.

There are times when things go wildly fantasy, but for the most part, this kind of thing is necessary.

I agree with the conclusions that having the House team do its own tests makes sense in the context of the show. First, House is so paranoid that having the team do its own tests is consistent behavior; second, House’s patients are nearly always at death’s door so tests must be done and interpreted quickly lest the patient die before his doctors learn what is going on; and three, quick tests followed by quicker action serve the drama.

I agree with the conclusions that having the House team do its own tests makes sense in the context of the show. First, House is so paranoid that having the team do its own tests is consistent behavior; second, House’s patients are nearly always at death’s door so tests must be done and interpreted quickly lest the patient die before his doctors learn what is going on; and three, quick tests followed by quicker action serve the drama.

Exactly. And there have been occasions when one of their hypothesis require a test that has to be sent off to a lab. And House always explains that there isn't time, come up with another way to test.

There was one episode when House went back to some old-school test, because he didn't have time to wait on the results from the lab.

when this episode started with the now predictable patient misdirection, I was unimpressed. Wilson however made this ep for me. His exchanges with House were two of the funniest things I can remember on House for along time, especially repeating the scene at the end. It was good to see Wilson play House not once but twice, and get a smile out of House in the process!

Everything else was formula. So nothing standout there.