Yeah, he passed the border about 2 seasons ago ;)

Borderline?

"Dr. Mandingo, report to the plantation!"

I'd say he passed borderline a long time ago. But, he's an equal opportunity insulter and hilarious at the same time.

And even that was nothing compared to some of the things that he has said to Foreman! :eek:

What's funny is that, imo, the best episode ever was the one with Foreman dying, which had very little to do with House. Omar Epps will be sorely missed, as he has been nothing short of outstanding throughout. :(

Is he leaving? He stated in TV Guide back around the time of the finale that he wasn't going anywhere.

Personally, of the three underlings, the only one that has even fleeting moments of likeability is Chase.

Chase and Cameron could both bite the bullet and I wouldn't cry too much. It's not that I don't like them, it's just that they're both written with a shallow pen. Cameron's complete 180 into Megabitch didn't sit well with me either. Omar Epps as Foreman is nothing short of brilliant, imo, and I'll be supremely shocked if they can find anyone of equal caliber to replace him. Hopefully, the producers will realize that as well and what he stated wasn't just a ruse to throw everyone off track.

Personally, I'm finding this whole scenario a bit fishy, as we've seen it all before, though not in such a blatant fashion. In the past, we've seen Chase nearly fired with the Vogler incident, Cameron leave because she fell in love with House, and Foreman nearly die. Something is definitely not as it appears, imo. :confused:

Don't freak out, everyone! Read it again. Here's the quote from Ask Ausiello:

"It's official: Replacements are being sought for Foreman, Chase and Cameron! Producers will be introducing four new underlings — two male, two female — at the start of the new season. But before you freak out, keep in mind what I've been telling you every week for the past month: It's my understanding that Jennifer Morrison, Jesse Spencer and Omar Epps all will be returning, making for one very crowded canvas."

Chase and Cameron could both bite the bullet and I wouldn't cry too much. It's not that I don't like them, it's just that they're both written with a shallow pen. Cameron's complete 180 into Megabitch didn't sit well with me either. Omar Epps as Foreman is nothing short of brilliant, imo, and I'll be supremely shocked if they can find anyone of equal caliber to replace him. Hopefully, the producers will realize that as well and what he stated wasn't just a ruse to throw everyone off track.

Personally, I'm finding this whole scenario a bit fishy, as we've seen it all before, though not in such a blatant fashion. In the past, we've seen Chase nearly fired with the Vogler incident, Cameron leave because she fell in love with House, and Foreman nearly die. Something is definitely not as it appears, imo. :confused:

Indeed. House will get out of the shower, dry off, go into the office and say, "Wow, you wouldn't believe the dream I had last night...you all left and went to the Bobby Ewing Memorial Hospital in Dallas."

Don't freak out, everyone! Read it again. Here's the quote from Ask Ausiello:

"It's official: Replacements are being sought for Foreman, Chase and Cameron! Producers will be introducing four new underlings — two male, two female — at the start of the new season. But before you freak out, keep in mind what I've been telling you every week for the past month: It's my understanding that Jennifer Morrison, Jesse Spencer and Omar Epps all will be returning, making for one very crowded canvas."
Also keep in mind that Ausiello's credibility has become only a few steps above checkout line tabloid when it comes to his "exclusives" and "insider" info.

More news stories of the cast. Looks like it was true when it was originally reported awhile back. I also saw another story on CNN that said the same thing.

New doctors making 'House' calls
From Maureen Ryan’s Chicago Tribune blog “The Watcher” July18, 2007

Fox has announced that five new actors will be joining "House" for an undetermined amount of time. From the network's Wednesday press release:

"Five actors have been cast in Season Four of the Emmy Award-winning series 'House,' which premieres Tuesday, Sept. 25 on Fox.

"Olivia Wilde ('The Black Donnellys,' 'The O.C.'), Kal Penn ('24,' 'The Namesake,' 'Harold & Kumar Go To White Castle'), Peter Jacobson ('The Starter Wife,' 'Law & Order'), Anne Dudek ('Big Day') and Edi Gathegi ('Lincoln Heights,' 'Gone Baby Gone') play candidates for a fellowship opportunity with Dr. House. The actors have been cast for an undetermined number of episodes."

http://tempo.typepad.com/entertainment_tv/

Here's a little bit more on the new and old cast:

http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah6119.shtml

House' Bulks Up With Five New Cast Members

LOS ANGELES, Calif. (July 18, 2007) -- Dr. Gregory House is about to have even more people to insult, as "House" adds five new additions to its cast next season.

In a statement to Access Hollywood, FOX announces that actors Kal Penn, Olivia Wilde, Peter Jacobson, Anne Dudek and Edi Gathegi will join the hit show's cast when the series returns on September 25 at 9:00 PM (EST).

The five actors will appear in an undetermined number of episodes, playing candidates for a fellowship with the brilliant -- and notoriously grumpy -- diagnostician, Dr. House (Golden Globe winner Hugh Laurie).

When the show left off in its third season finale, three of House's staff had seemingly left him for good. Dr. Eric Foreman (Omar Epps) left Princeton Plainsboro for fear of becoming too much like House; Dr. Robert Chase (Jesse Spencer) was fired over House's claim that he'd learned all he was going to; and immunologist Dr. Allison Cameron (Jennifer Morrison) resigned, feeling that House can get by fine without her.

While the three "House" regulars appear to be out of the picture, it may be premature to count them out just yet. Reports indicate that all three may return next season in different capacities.

Any new news to report? Also when is the new season starting?

Any new news to report? Also when is the new season starting?

I think next week...or is it the week after?

Any new news to report? Also when is the new season starting?

Tuesday September 25 9/8c.

http://www.fox.com/house/

Also when is the new season starting?


House and Bones starts new next week.

I remember hearing something in the TVguide fall preview that there will be some sort of survivor-esque selection process with the candidates trying to get on House's team. Could provide for some entertaining television.

House and Bones starts new next week.

No, they don't. They start on 9/25.

No, they don't. They start on 9/25.

Correct, Prison Break and K-Ville start next week on the 17th.

I remember hearing something in the TVguide fall preview that there will be some sort of survivor-esque selection process with the candidates trying to get on House's team. Could provide for some entertaining television.

Whoever keeps him in vicodin stays :D:D:D and, luckily for us- House does seem to have a keen eye for the cute 20 somethings.

Whoever keeps him in vicodin stays :D:D:D and, luckily for us- House does seem to have a keen eye for the cute 20 somethings.
That's what Olivia Wilde is for!! :D

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Some quick observations. The intro is still the same, with the same credits and same team in the background.

Also, Lisa Edelstein makes me really horny.

Ahhh, it's good to have new episodes of this show. Wilson had some great lines tonight - "You ever tighten a guitar string really, really slowly... past the point it can handle the strain? It makes this weird sound. Almost like a scream. Errrrrrr...."

And he didn't pop a Vidocin at all. It hope they aren't going PC this year.

He told a female doctor her breasts were lop sided so I don't think they are going to tone it down too much ;)

Great opening episode with many LOL moments!

Did anyone in the pittsburgh market have some distortion/blocking at the bottom of the screen during the episode (also on Bones) it was there during both shows for me but all the HD commercials were fine. It was visible on both the QAM channel over cable as well as the OTA antennae. Channel was the pittsburgh Fox 53 (channel 11)

As predicted, House is nothing without the people that challenge him. The writers think so as well. He really needs his team back. The banter between him, Cuddie and Wilson will get real old, real quick.

Was the new episode of House worth the watch? I opted for Reaper, because, honestly I figure I'll have lots of opportunity to catch House in reruns. Plus, I didn't really like the premise of him dumping his whole crew.

Once they started hinting that Omar Epps was going bye-bye, I thought the shark started circling the show.

It had its moments, but I predicted it was a horrible move to ditch the cast, and it's not looking good overall thus far.

^^^ True, that was really messed up with the guitar though, you just don't do that kind of stuff to a Flying V:p

So the cast is really gone?! I thought they would just be appearing later, in order to play out the "need a team" storyline.

It's so cheap now, then, with Cuddie having to work doubletime with the TnA teasing just to keep the female sexual tension vibe alive on the show. Anybody else notice the more than usual gratuitous shots of Cuddie's "parts" in this episode?

So the cast is really gone?!
They're still in the opening title sequence, so they're obviously not gone for good.

The teaser for next week showed two of the three around, with Morrison having blonde hair, as per the movie about Diana.

The teaser for next week showed two of the three around
But they're supposedly just House hallucinating.

Apparently they will all be back ... eventually ... even Foreman! In the meantime the producers are going to play a House version of Survivor to see which of the new candidates really make the best part of the House team.

Did anyone in the pittsburgh market have some distortion/blocking at the bottom of the screen during the episode (also on Bones) it was there during both shows for me but all the HD commercials were fine. It was visible on both the QAM channel over cable as well as the OTA antennae. Channel was the pittsburgh Fox 53 (channel 11)

I was watching via Comcast and didn't notice anything? I started about 20 minutes in off the HDDVR so I could commercial skip, but that shouldn't matter. Maybe check with the regulars in the local Comcast and OTA threads.

I enjoyed the episode, but he needs a team to interact with. I don't care if it's the old crew or new crew. Just more people to browbeat...

Excellent episode and shows that they do not need the three supporting characters to make this show great.

All three House underlings will be back, just in different roles, such as a surgeon in the hospital or something. They said they are definitely coming back, just not as House's team, they will be in a different role.

I think that would be even more funny. Having House have to go to one of them to perform an operation or to have something done, could be nice playing off that since they know House and his "tricks".

Was the new episode of House worth the watch? I opted for Reaper, because, honestly I figure I'll have lots of opportunity to catch House in reruns. Plus, I didn't really like the premise of him dumping his whole crew.
I think you probably made the right choice. I decided to record The Unit and Boston Legal Boston on my TiVo opposite House.

As an afterthought, I setup House to record on the backup DVR I keep in another room. I watched it early this morning and was underwhelmed. I thought that the “kidnapped” guitar and “stolen” patient thread was incredibly silly and not very funny. The only saving grace was the plot twist at the end of the episode, which I did think was pretty clever.

Same here. The end diagnosis was pretty good but the rest is being taken to stupid levels. House is just getting away with too much stupid crap now. The patient stealing was just ludicrous and the formula that I was expecting to see get shook up is still there. 45 minutes in, House will go quiet as someone is talking, have a revelation and case closed.

I mean even if the guy was a genius, if all he has been doing for a month is playing the guitar he's just bleeding the hospital budget. Saving one person every other month doesn't really justify Cuddy keeping him on staff for the price of probably two or three other junior doctors.

I mean even if the guy was a genius, if all he has been doing for a month is playing the guitar he's just bleeding the hospital budget. Saving one person every other month doesn't really justify Cuddy keeping him on staff for the price of probably two or three other junior doctors.

Let's not read too deeply into the premise for the whole show. After all, House would be spending a lot of time in a federal prison if this were real life. It's a bit gonzo of a show.

Excellent episode and shows that they do not need the three supporting characters to make this show great.

I feel just the opposite...the show suffered greatly without them.

I thought that the “kidnapped” guitar and “stolen” patient thread was incredibly silly and not very funny. The only saving grace was the plot twist at the end of the episode, which I did think was pretty clever.

So, you mean for once the plot twist wasn't, "The (twelve year old girl, college girl, frustrating teenage boy) was (having SEX, living in slum conditions) with (boyfriend, dad, feather duster) causing (internal bleeding, blindness)."

One of the jokes of House is that the whole diagnostic thing is a MacGuffin, enabling an hour of abusive, sexist, racist comments to spew forth from a cratchety but lovable dope fiend. Of course, I'm a bad human being and therefore find that funny.

It would be interesting for them to consider the fact that he is gainfully employed in a job that can't just be left up to a baboon.

...the formula that I was expecting to see get shook up is still there. 45 minutes in, House will go quiet as someone is talking, have a revelation and case closed.



I really do wish that they would stop doing that. Very tiring.

I didn't mind this episode though. The interaction between House and Wilson is still excellent.

Did they ever do a story arc where House was fired from his position? I never caught the series from the beginning.

Outstanding episode! One of the funniest ever. The banter between House and Wilson was taken to a whole new level this year, as it appears they are making Wilson a bit more devious and capable of holding his own against the genius that is House.

When the the girl's loved ones addressed the janitor as "Doctor Buffer" I nearly threw up from laughter. :D

As an aside, Cameron and Chase broke off their relationship in real life, so it's going to be interesting to see how they work together on the show and where they take the relationship.

So, you mean for once the plot twist wasn't, "The (twelve year old girl, college girl, frustrating teenage boy) was (having SEX, living in slum conditions) with (boyfriend, dad, feather duster) causing (internal bleeding, blindness)."

One of the jokes of House is that the whole diagnostic thing is a MacGuffin, enabling an hour of abusive, sexist, racist comments to spew forth from a cratchety but lovable dope fiend. Of course, I'm a bad human being and therefore find that funny.
Despite my earlier criticism of last night’s episode, I agree that the show is designed to be broad, even a little cartoonish sometimes, in order to allow House to regale us with his hysterically funny one-liners. Not that there’s anything wrong with that because, not is only House the world’s smartest narcotics addict, he may be the funniest. My complaint about last night arose because I thought they stuck with the Guitar-patient thread for way too long. I also didn’t much like the similarities between the young woman doctor, who House recruited to help him, and the departed Cameron.

We need to see more of Dr. Buffer. He was outstanding.

We need to see more of Dr. Buffer. He was outstanding.

Agree 100%!

I really do wish that they would stop doing that. Very tiring.

Yes, I agree this dramatic element has been worn through on House. Maybe a few times in an entire season is legitimate, no more than once per episode should be tolerable (if it is just going to be "House's trademark move"), but multiple times in one episode is just ridiculous. They use it so often, it might as well be an SNL skit.

I also didn’t much like the similarities between the young woman doctor, who House recruited to help him, and the departed Cameron.

I think that was very much intentional. House even remarked "you remind me of someone..."

...I also didn’t much like the similarities between the young woman doctor, who House recruited to help him, and the departed Cameron.

I saw zero similarities other than maybe a barely-there physical resemblance. :confused: I took House's comment to mean that she reminded her of himself, as she was much more cynical than Cameron ever was. (To me, last year's little attitude adjustment by her was simply protrusive abd gluttonous bitchiness, not feigned or learned cynicism.) :mad:

I saw zero similarities other than maybe a barely-there physical resemblance. :confused: I took House's comment to mean that she reminded her of himself, as she was much more cynical than Cameron ever was. (To me, last year's little attitude adjustment by her was simply protrusive abd gluttonous bitchiness, not feigned or learned cynicism.) :mad:

Ohhh...maybe you're right. I thought she had more than a passing resemblance to Cameron though. :o

Did anyone else notice the few shaky camera shots? They were completely out of place, and really annoyed me. I don't remember ever seeing the shaky camera in House before. It works for 24, but it doesn't work at all here.

Ohhh...maybe you're right...

I was thinking about it some more today and should specify that the part that really made me think the intern was much like House was that she was supremely disappointed at the thought of there being no mystery to solve. I hope she makes the team! (Along with the obvious addition of Doctor Buffer.) :)

Did anyone else notice the few shaky camera shots? They were completely out of place, and really annoyed me. I don't remember ever seeing the shaky camera in House before. It works for 24, but it doesn't work at all here.

HATED those weird camera shots. Real close. Didn't fit in with the show. I really hope they don't continue it.

I feel just the opposite...the show suffered greatly without them.

Suffered Greatly???
Must have watched a different show than I did.

Wow, unless I'm missing something, I thought this show was one of a few that was not-so-politically correct and therefore a more shoot-from-the-hip shows.

There was plenty of hip shots, it was very funny. It's not supposed to be the norm, it's supposed to be the ab-norm. Which I believe it is.

I have no idea how the other cast members would have helped in this show, as Cuttey is trying to get House to understand that he can't work alone.

It is the ONLY show that is on all week that my kids and I all watch together.
Every Tuesday, someone will say "You know what day it is........" and someone else will answer "HOUSE tonight!!" Not Tuesday, but House tonight. Only must watch show I have on my list. Nuff said.

HATED those weird camera shots. Real close. Didn't fit in with the show. I really hope they don't continue it.

I agree. I don't know why they had to be there. Turn the image stabilization back on next time...

I enjoyed this episode, but I do not think the Survivor idea is a good one. Too many different people to try to work in.

Once the team is down to two or three again, I don't think it much matters who they are. Some of the best parts of House are his interactions with the clinical patients. He might be funnier breaking in a new team that reacts more to him than the old standbys.

I enjoyed this episode, but I do not think the Survivor idea is a good one. Too many different people to try to work in.

Once the team is down to two or three again, I don't think it much matters who they are. Some of the best parts of House are his interactions with the clinical patients. He might be funnier breaking in a new team that reacts more to him than the old standbys.
I became very tired of “The old standbys” by the end of last season. I can’t say whether it was the acting or the writing but, either, way I was glad to see them go. That’s why I was disappointed by the appearance of new stamped-out-with-a-cookie-cutter-beautiful young girl doctor, who looks a lot like Cameron, and to me at least, seems to be similar to her in other ways.

I became very tired of “The old standbys” by the end of last season. I can’t say whether it was the acting or the writing but, either, way I was glad to see them go. That’s why I was disappointed by the appearance of new stamped-out-with-a-cookie-cutter-beautiful young girl doctor, who looks a lot like Cameron, and to me at least, seems to be similar to her in other ways.

I think that's the whole point of having her, to draw the parallel to House to make him realize that he needs differing opinions on his team. He needs a "Cameron", a "Chase," and a "Foreman"

I enjoyed this episode, but I do not think the Survivor idea is a good one...

It seems to me that the writers had such a positive response to the "Three Stories" episode that they thought they should do it again, what with the shot of House in the lecture hall again. Unfortunately, they missed the point that most people loved the fact that in that particular episode, the story was about his own medical mystery.

I was disappointed by the appearance of new stamped-out-with-a-cookie-cutter-beautiful young girl doctor, who looks a lot like Cameron, and to me at least, seems to be similar to her in other ways.
It's pretty doubtful that the production team is going to employ a short, ancient, and grotesque female, with enormous breasts and a rotund ass as House's underling, just to stay away from any likeness to Cameron. :confused:

It's pretty doubtful that the production team is going to employ a short, ancient, and grotesque female, with enormous breasts and a rotund ass as House's underling, just to stay away from any likeness to Cameron. :confused:
Speaking of young beauties, could either Keira Nightly or Scarlet Johansson be described as looking much like each other? Just asking but you might want to think about that. :)

I never cease to be amazed at how frequently technical message boards, such as AVS Forum, can give rise to willful misunderstandings in the service of controversy. What the hell, though, it’s just television, right? :)

I saw zero similarities other than maybe a barely-there physical resemblance. :confused: I took House's comment to mean that she reminded her of himself, as she was much more cynical than Cameron ever was. (To me, last year's little attitude adjustment by her was simply protrusive abd gluttonous bitchiness, not feigned or learned cynicism.) :mad:

She sounds like Foreman. Although her ambition and insubordination is more like Chase. And then appearance similar to Cameron. So....

My gf just came in and read the last bits of the thread. She suggested that they better hire a Hispanic, an Asian, and someone from the Middle East so as not to have people comparing the new kids to the old ones.

Me, I think House should just hire a pregnant Polynesian albino hermaphrodite with a hunchback, dwarfism, and a conjoined twin coming out of the side of her head. No cookie-cutter there! :)

After seeing the promos, I was hoping at least half the show would be set in the classroom. I was getting worried until I realized we may get a number of whole shows in the classroom.

BTW, I have been meaning to ask this: did I miss something? I.e., was there an explanation of House not having a "team"? Wasn't the team still in tact at the end of last season (with the possible exception of Foreman) or did I forget something? :confused:

Chase was fired. Cameron resigned. Foreman finished up his two-weeks notice and departed. Honestly, I wouldn't even have noticed they were missing but for the fact that the entire plot centered around them not being there.

I don't dislike the fellowship crew, but I watch for House, Wilson, and Cuddy.

Chase was fired. Cameron resigned. Foreman finished up his two-weeks notice and departed. Honestly, I wouldn't even have noticed they were missing but for the fact that the entire plot centered around them not being there.

I don't dislike the fellowship crew, but I watch for House, Wilson, and Cuddy.

When was the above revealed? This last episode or last season?

Last season. Chase was fired towards the beginning of the finale and Cameron quit right at the end of it.

Ahhh, it's good to have new episodes of this show. Wilson had some great lines tonight - "You ever tighten a guitar string really, really slowly... past the point it can handle the strain? It makes this weird sound. Almost like a scream. Errrrrrr...." Wildly agreed. When Wilson started making the sound of the string being overtightened, I though I was going to snort my bite of dinner out through my nose I laughed so hard.

I was thinking the box would contain the guitar strings only and was quite surprised to se the whole pickup WITH ripped-out wood back.

Anyway, I thought it was a great episode and yeah, most episodes have had and probably will continue to have the revelatory moment at the end (how many years was it before Perry Mason didn't win the case in the last two minutes?). House is the focus, not the mystery of the week.

I think the Survivor play-off has the potential for being very entertaining ...

Last season. Chase was fired towards the beginning of the finale and Cameron quit right at the end of it.

What was Chase fired for? Why did Cameron quit? Why do I not remember this? Why do I have so many questions?

What was Chase fired for? Why did Cameron quite? Why do I not remember this? Why do I have so many questions?

LOL!!! I watch so much TV, I can't remember the reasons, but I remember it happening. Forman quitting went on for a few shows, so I'm sure you remember that. I can't recall the exact reason Chase was fired, but I'll remember it as soon as someone mentions it. I think Cameron quit because Chase was fired? Geez.....looks like you aren't the only one with questions..heheh.

What was Chase fired for? Why did Cameron quit? Why do I not remember this? Why do I have so many questions?

Dude, got rent the last disc of season 3 from blockbuster and watch the 4 episodes.

or go here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_House_episodes#Season_3:_2006-2007) and read the write ups for the last 5 or so episodes.

What was Chase fired for? Why did Cameron quit? Why do I not remember this? Why do I have so many questions?

Amnesia?

Why do I not remember this? Why do I have so many questions?

First, I thought you lost your memory from lead poisoning...
then a colleague mentioned Lupis...
then I made an entirely inappropriate comment about a girl with big breasts...
then we thought you may have been taking drugs...
then we were sure it was from an STD (you'd say no, but everybody lies)...
then I watched some TV...
and it came to me...
"A Charlie Brown Christmas" was on and the smallest member of the Van Pelt family walked in. Eureka! You have Rerun Syndrome! Easily cured by watching a rerun of the episode in question. You can be discharged immediately.

First, I thought you lost your memory from lead poisoning...
then a colleague mentioned Lupis...
then I made an entirely inappropriate comment about a girl with big breasts...
then we thought you may have been taking drugs...
then we were sure it was from an STD (you'd say no, but everybody lies)...
then I watched some TV...
and it came to me...
"A Charlie Brown Christmas" was on and the smallest member of the Van Pelt family walked in. Eureka! You have Rerun Syndrome! Easily cured by watching a rerun of the episode in question. You can be discharged immediately.

:D

My gf just came in and read the last bits of the thread. She suggested that they better hire a Hispanic, an Asian, and someone from the Middle East so as not to have people comparing the new kids to the old ones.


How would that stop us from comparing? Or stop House from comparing, for that matter?

What she was getting at was that if they hire another girl, she'd better at least look a lot different than Cameon, since some can't get past her physical aspects. I previously, and perhaps somewhat overzealously, flared up at a comment made by gwsat in regard to the intern looking like Cameron. While she may have shared a few insignificant physical features, we saw nothing in the way of personality that could be construed as similar.

House will likely compare the new kids to the old, perhaps silently, perhaps overtly, but I certainly hope the comparatives will be based upon the abilities and character of his new staff, rather than their genetic makeup. Personally, I'd rather he kept Dr. Buffer (along with Dr. Coffee from the cafeteria and Dr. Cuff from security) than hire a new team. That was pure genius. :)

Does it seem that with the team (or should I say the previous team) the patient gets worst and they darn near kill them until House sees some otherwise insignificant swelling or whatever which ultimately saves the patient?

Does it seem that with the team (or should I say the previous team) the patient gets worst and they darn near kill them until House sees some otherwise insignificant swelling or whatever which ultimately saves the patient?


Oh darn, you've figured out the SECRET :D.

Actually, House is my wife's favorite show and I do watch it with her. The banter between House and Wilson is priceless....but the plot template typically is:

A patient presents with [insert symptoms]. During the differential diagnosis, [insert name of team] suggests that the cause might be [insert suggested cause]. House responds by [deriding the choice/making a sexist comment/making a racial comment]. Another team member suggests [insert suggestion]. Repeat as necessary.

They eventually agree on a treatment which makes the patient worse. They come back and do another differential diagnosis [and another].

At 7 minutes before the show ends, House has a totally unrelated conversation with [Cuddy/Wilson/team member/another patient]. He then scrunches his eyes and realizes the answer is [insert actual root cause].

Treatment is given and [the patient recovers/the patient dies].

That's the forumula. :)

So when do you think Cutty is going to come down with (insert rare disease) and this all becomes more personal for House?

Surprisingly good episode. I watched it yesterday (watched Reaper based on the "It needs the support" theory). Although I disagree with dumping the team, I thought House as a standalone worked pretty well.

Of course, it further emphasizes how little the team serves any purpose. But, House is about the banter, not the medical mystery of the week.

The mystery is always something that involved women and sex. Because the folks who write House are apparently stuck in the 1950s when it comes to sexuality (Girls have sex?! Women get abortions?!).

"Tesla was robbed!"

This will be bugging me. I'm a huge Tesla (inventor not band) fan. The statement is as true as it can be :) And they left it up on the board for the whole episode.

Tesla was robbed and shafted - multiple times.

The mystery is always something that involved women and sex. Because the folks who write House are apparently stuck in the 1950s when it comes to sexuality (Girls have sex?! Women get abortions?!).

???

Interesting weekly update:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20626573/

Great episode. Liked the new doctors trying to out do each other and stab each other in the back. I also liked the car wash part, clever on her part.

Great episode. Liked the new doctors trying to out do each other and stab each other in the back. I also liked the car wash part, clever on her part.

Agreed, but her character is a bitch and really doesn't fit into the team idea.

Kal Penn is hilarious and I like the old dude that wasn't really wasn't a doctor. Hope he sticks around

This show would have gone right down the toilet without the actors from last season. Glad to see the writers brought them back.

umm, not with Olivia Wilde on board, no pun intended...

Good episode.

I especially like when contestant number 6 came back as number 9.

Good episode.

I especially like when contestant number 6 came back as number 9.

Which one was he, Harold or Kumar? :cool: I like him as an actor, but he may not be your typical medical person as his acting style so far has been that of a slacker who likes to smoke pot.... ;)

Which one was he, Harold or Kumar? :cool: I like him as an actor, but he may not be your typical medical person as his acting style so far has been that of a slacker who likes to smoke pot.... ;)

Indian guy...Kumar...kinda obvious

Indian guy...Kumar...kinda obvious

Asian guy, Harold. Kinda obvious, right? Not really. :p

Guess I should have figured that though.

I really liked this episode. House at HIS best. So far I think the writers have moved into this new mold very well. I can't remember when I have laughed so hard during a House episode. The "boob job" was classic. Didn't see that one coming even though I couldn't figure out why they mentioned there was a plastic surgeon was in the running. Nice one that Cameron got over on House with the "referral." He deserved it! Too bad number 2 didn't hang around. She was cute and could have made life tough for House in a "foreign" kind of way. :)

This show would have gone right down the toilet without the actors from last season. Glad to see the writers brought them back.

So you seriously think that having them on camera for about 30 seconds is what made this episode good? The episode was excellent with or without them in it.

Hmmm. Not too impressed, if this is where we're going. Pretty sorry show last night, with what seemed like more than a few completely forced one-liners and a weak plotline with little continuity. I'm hoping it was partly in fact that they didn't have much time to focus on anything or anyone in particular, what with so many characters in the mix serving as nothing more than a distraction upon each other. Last week was so superior, it's hard to believe it's the same show. :(

The part with the Mormon intern was the only thing even close to hilarious, particularly that he mentioned the issue of color tolerence, since Mormons didn't allow African-Americans to hold the priesthood until just recently because they supposedly have "the mark of Cain." The comment about the "magic underwear" had us rolling! :D

The inclusion of last year's cast was so inconsequent, it seemed more an insult than a homage. :confused:

My favorite part?

The fact that the cute girl from the first episode that many here assumed would be Cameron's replacement was "fired" within the first 30 seconds of this episode! :D

My favorite part -- the end. It was an abysmal attempt to inject "Newness" into the show that didn't need any. Can't say I like any of the newbies, the plot was funny for a minute but it wore on me quickly. If I was writing the show I would have the team out House House making quicker and better diagnoses have him question his skills.

Maybe I don't like change but to me this just wasn't the show I've come to really like.

Which one was he, Harold or Kumar? :cool: I like him as an actor, but he may not be your typical medical person as his acting style so far has been that of a slacker who likes to smoke pot.... ;)

Well, that certainly doesn't make him atypical.

I thought the episode was pretty good as you didn't exactly know what was going to happen next. Kept you thinking.

Which one was he, Harold or Kumar? :cool: I like him as an actor, but he may not be your typical medical person as his acting style so far has been that of a slacker who likes to smoke pot.... ;)

Kind of funny he was on there. Ironically, "Harold" was on 'TILL DEATH' the same night. I love that show as well.

Which one was he, Harold or Kumar? :cool: I like him as an actor, but he may not be your typical medical person as his acting style so far has been that of a slacker who likes to smoke pot.... ;)

What was his line last night that made House keep him around...oh yeah "Let's get her drunk". So, I guess his typical character works for House.

I liked this episode as well. I thought it was far better than last week. I liked most of the new team, it had some good one liners and apart from the fire incident the patient slapstick was toned way down. Not enough Wilson this episode but apart from that I thought it was great. Especially the fact that they didn't fall prey to the 45 minute sudden revelation diagnosis formula.

I also liked the continuity nod to his guitar as he sat there gluing the dismembered part back in.

Has anyone else been having problems with Fox tonight? I'm watching House on WNYW HD, and throughout the night I've been getting lapses in sound and occasional picture freeze ups. Is this happening to anyone else? NY'ers? NY'ers watching on Time Warner Cable?

I am in NY on Directv an had horrible audio issues. (Chainsaw was back)

I had no problems in Grand Rapids, MI watching via Comcast on WXMI.

No problem in South Carolina via Directv. Picture and sound pretty good. Episode was a little strange, however. Cuddy looked good.

Antneye Wrote

I am in NY on Directv an had horrible audio issues. (Chainsaw was back)

Were you also in an area where there were Thunderstorms? Wonder if that was what were causing it? Didn't have problems with Boston Legal, but Bones was bad, and by the second part of House, I had to switch over to SD

Has anyone else been having problems with Fox tonight? I'm watching House on WNYW HD, and throughout the night I've been getting lapses in sound and occasional picture freeze ups. Is this happening to anyone else? NY'ers? NY'ers watching on Time Warner Cable?

I was having these issues through Comcast, Central Jersey. I switched to OTA and no more problems. There were heavy thunderstorms in the area at the time.

Weird episode, with House sticking the knife into the electrical socket.

Weird episode, with House sticking the knife into the electrical socket.

Yeah, definitely not one of my favorite episodes by a long shot.

so who does everyone think will make 'the team' out of the current remaining pool?

so who does everyone think will make 'the team' out of the current remaining pool?

The Mormon, because there's just so much easy-picking there for House. The cut-throat bitch, because there's high tension probablilities. I'd also guess the older, non-doctor, will be encouraged by House to stick around in some degree.

Loved Wilson's "fun times" remark last night. The episode in two weeks looks to be phenomenal.

So foreman got fired from his new job for pulling a House, but saved the patient. Anybody see him running his own diag team side-byside with house, like the offer was last season?

Kal Penn has gotta stick around, he's hilarious. would be a great addition to the show.

Okay episode for me.

Wilson's "Fun Times" line caused me to spit out of soda, that was hilarous.

I actually didn't like the old cast being back, it seemed forced and pointless. Like they had to throw them into the episode somehow so lets ask them about house. And the whole Foreman thing was boring to me.

Part of me wishes House would of seen something in his near death experience, might of been interesting for TV, but the other part of me is glad he didn't. Oh well. Curious to see who the team will be.

Part of me wishes House would of seen something in his near death experience, might of been interesting for TV, but the other part of me is glad he didn't. Oh well. Curious to see who the team will be.


Holy smokes, did you stick around to see the next EP preview? (Which I think is actually 2 weeks away because of the series). Looks like they're NOT dropping the whole afterlife plot thread, and if anything, there's some borderline metaphysical stuff on deck!

~DT

That was great, only House would do something like that. I'm curious who the dead guy is in the next episode.

;11866448']Holy smokes, did you stick around to see the next EP preview? (Which I think is actually 2 weeks away because of the series). Looks like they're NOT dropping the whole afterlife plot thread, and if anything, there's some borderline metaphysical stuff on deck!

~DT

Yes, it gave me goose bumps, but there was nothing there that made me think it would deal with his afterlife/god issues. It was more of a lady seeing ghosts. Still looks like an awesome episode.

there was nothing there that made me think it would deal with his afterlife/god issues. It was more of a lady seeing ghosts.
Ghosts = afterlife.

I took special interest in the previews as my mother started seeing well dressed people in the room prior to her death. Was she seeing things or was I not seeing things. Never was able to figure that one out.

Should be an interesting episode.

And the whole Foreman thing was boring to me.


I liked that part - it was like the classic House episode with Foreman at the center doing exactly what House would do. He even had a beautiful woman boss who fired him for using House's typical tactics, even though he saved the patient's life at the end.

I liked that part - it was like the classic House episode with Foreman at the center doing exactly what House would do. He even had a beautiful woman boss who fired him for using House's typical tactics, even though he saved the patient's life at the end.

Hey Al,

Thanks for saying that. To me, it looked as if Foreman had become
House. Ther difference is that House has a track record, and House has Cuddy. Camerom and the dude (sorry, got a slpitting headache right now and can't remember his name - maybe I'll be House's next case) lol aappearences seemed much more forced and contrived.

Maybe, ultimately, Foreman will be back on the team - who knows!

I liked that part - it was like the classic House episode with Foreman at the center doing exactly what House would do. He even had a beautiful woman boss who fired him for using House's typical tactics, even though he saved the patient's life at the end.

He should have made a comment on her breasts or ass to pull a "full House." :D

In line with the above Foreman comments, there was an episode last season when House chastized Foreman for not simply bypassing House and doing what he thought was right. So, Foreman comes full circle.

I liked that part - it was like the classic House episode with Foreman at the center doing exactly what House would do. He even had a beautiful woman boss who fired him for using House's typical tactics, even though he saved the patient's life at the end.

I thought that was the biggest irony: Foreman quits because he doesn't want to become House, and he does....and gets fired for it. Classic.

....and to think, we all thought we'd never see the team again.

Any speculation about Foreman getting back to House's hospital? Maybe back on the team?

so who does everyone think will make 'the team' out of the current remaining pool?

"6", 13, & 18.

Turbo bitch will certainly get on the team. What was that one of the doctors said. She pied pipered 9 of them off the team.

I am extremely attracted to the chick that inadvertently killed the man and his dog. She has some incredible eyes. Anyone know who she is?

I am extremely attracted to the chick that inadvertently killed the man and his dog. She has some incredible eyes. Anyone know who she is?

She is Olivia Wilde (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1312575/). She is mostly known for her roles on The O.C. and The Black Donnellys.

It is also being reported that the 3 new doctors will be played by Olivia, Kal Penn and Peter Jacobson. You can read about it here: http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=e8ae8ad7-3990-4a2e-b91a-a6d2ce7b8ddf&entry=index

House's Survivor bit was funny.

What was Chase fired for? Why did Cameron quit? Why do I not remember this? Why do I have so many questions?

She is Olivia Wilde (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1312575/). She is mostly known for her roles on The O.C. and The Black Donnellys.

It is also being reported that the 3 new doctors will be played by Olivia, Kal Penn and Peter Jacobson. You can read about it here: http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=e8ae8ad7-3990-4a2e-b91a-a6d2ce7b8ddf&entry=index

Thanks man. Glad to see Kumar might be a regular on the show as well.

....and to think, we all thought we'd never see the team again...

No offense intended, but if you thought that, I think you were 1 of the 3 people that did. The other 18 million viewers among us probably didn't.

What exactly is happening with Cameron and Chase? I thought there was a comment in one episode that they were working in Arizona or something. All of a sudden they are back at the same hospital? I must've missed something. And I don't have the episodes stored to re-check.

What exactly is happening with Cameron and Chase? I thought there was a comment in one episode that they were working in Arizona or something. All of a sudden they are back at the same hospital? I must've missed something. And I don't have the episodes stored to re-check.
The Arizona thing was misdirection towards House. They were never there.

What exactly is happening with Cameron and Chase? I thought there was a comment in one episode that they were working in Arizona or something. All of a sudden they are back at the same hospital? I must've missed something. And I don't have the episodes stored to re-check.

Cameron and Chase never even left the hospital at all. They simply moved to different departments within. Wilson was pulling a fast one on House about the Arizona bit in an attempt to instill guilt about them "leaving". Cameron and Chase's relationship remains intact on the show, even though their relationship in real life has apparently ended for good at this time.

Then why did House spend an entire episode with delusions of seeing them? That wouldn't mean anything if they were still working in the same building.

Then why did House spend an entire episode with delusions of seeing them? That wouldn't mean anything if they were still working in the same building.

That was the point. He didn't have a delusion, he really did see them because they really were in the building. Wilson was messing with him by telling him they were in Arizona, implying that House's guilt over their leaving was making him see things. I think Case and Cameron were in on it, i.e., they allowed House to see them but didn't stop to say hi or anything like that.

I should aslo mention that it was not stated if Foreman was in on the guilt trip. It would appear that he wasn't, what with having his own case in what we can only assume was another hospital. However, it could be possible that he was in the same building for some other undisclosed reason. Or, House could have actually imagined Forman only, as he did see him last.

Cameron and Chase never even left the hospital at all. They simply moved to different departments within. Wilson was pulling a fast one on House about the Arizona bit in an attempt to instill guilt about them "leaving". Cameron and Chase's relationship remains intact on the show, even though their relationship in real life has apparently ended for good at this time.
oh great, my girlfriend will be heartbroken. she has some strange attachment to their relationship. (both on the show and in real life.)

Strange. That really doesn't make much sense from what I remember of the episode. Probably will make more sense than the 10/23 episode, though.

Thanks.

Did we ever get an actual profession/baclground out of the doctor-who's-not-a-doctor fellow? For some reason I'm always plinking on something else while House is on - thought maybe I missed a little detail? The wifey said she didn't think it had been clarified either.

Hugh Laurie was on Jay Leno last night (missed that too, I'm on a roll!) - he's usually very funny - anybody catch it?

No comments for last nights episode?

;11997971']Did we ever get an actual profession/baclground out of the doctor-who's-not-a-doctor fellow?

They did say last episode or so but it has slipped my mind right now.

I am just pleased that Australia is finally showing a series up-to-date with the US and in HD so that I can finally read a thread here without being spoiled.

Tonights episode overall wasn't too bad although I still prefer the old team rather than this Tribal Council, Flowers being passed out, etc. that they are doing with the current fellows.

Also, is it just me or does Hugh look different recently? He almost looks as he did a while back when he was doing English shows.

;11997971']Did we ever get an actual profession/baclground out of the doctor-who's-not-a-doctor fellow?
IIRC, he worked for the admissions office to some med school. In the many years there, he audited every medical class given. So he learned everything but never actually attended or graduated from med school.

They gave us that backstory a couple episodes back, after faux-doc had a real doc do a procedure assigned to him (to avoid breaking the law against practicing medicine without a license). House confronted him about it and let him stay on.

No comments for last nights episode?

Now that you ask......

the more I watch House the more I cherish the style of humour in general and the politically incorrect stuff in particular. It's the series I would make if I could actually do anything productive. And the "Charlie's Angels" thingie was priceless. I'm not being sarcastic, BTW, I just love that sort of stuff. And as long as House pulls in the ratings the PI police don't stand a chance: of course as soon as it starts to lose its audience House as we know it will go bye-bye.

=NLK=

Did anyone else notice when the "doctor-who-isn't-a-doctor" gave the other doctor (the one he was fighting with) the finger when he walked by. He made the comment about "my school used visual aids", or something similar.

"Cash will be fine"

"I bet you say that to all the guys"

:D

Did anyone else notice when the "doctor-who-isn't-a-doctor" gave the other doctor (the one he was fighting with) the finger when he walked by. He made the comment about "my school used visual aids", or something similar.


I rewound and paused to prove it to myslef. I lol'd heartily. Definite flippage of the bird there

I did, I had to backup the DVR to show the wife, she missed it the first time. And I think the remark was a retort about him and House having their own language. He said "Next time I'll use visual aids." Quality! :D

They did say last episode or so but it has slipped my mind right now.


Well, at least it wasn't just us! :D

IIRC, he worked for the admissions office to some med school. In the many years there, he audited every medical class given. So he learned everything but never actually attended or graduated from med school.

They gave us that backstory a couple episodes back, after faux-doc had a real doc do a procedure assigned to him (to avoid breaking the law against practicing medicine without a license). House confronted him about it and let him stay on.

Fantastic, thanks a bunch!

Tonights episode overall wasn't too bad although I still prefer the old team rather than this Tribal Council, Flowers being passed out, etc. that they are doing with the current fellows.

They're just making fun of all the reality shows we have on here. The flowers bit, of course, satirized The Bachelor/Bachelorette. The "You're fired" bit comes from The Apprentice.

I think it's hilarious, personally.

It is also being reported that the 3 new doctors will be played by Olivia, Kal Penn and Peter Jacobson. You can read about it here: http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=e8ae8ad7-3990-4a2e-b91a-a6d2ce7b8ddf&entry=index

I'd much rather have Cutthroat Bitch or Big Love stick around than the dull plastic surgeon guy.

I didn't originally care for Big Love, but when he hit House I loved it (House undoubtedly deserved it for his below the belt remark about Joseph Smith). However, if Big Love stayed, everybody would be waiting for another hit.

They have to get rid of Teddy soon. He's creeping me out.

I'm disappointed that they dumped Bosley. I was rooting for Thirteen, Plastic Surgeon, Kumar, and Bosley as the regulars. Looks like I get three out of four at least.

I hope Cutthroat Bitch goes down in flames. She's incredibly annoying.

I hope Cutthroat Bitch goes down in flames. She's incredibly annoying.

I wonder if Bosley might reappear, somehow. Cutthroat Bitch is, in fact, a cutthroat bitch. I don't suppose anybody really likes her, but to some extent we identify with her ("I know all the answers, and if you cross me, I'll castrate you!") I think we all have some of that in us.

You guys do know that Kumar, 13 and the plastic surgeon are the ones staying on, right? Cut-throat-bitch is out soon.

You guys do know that Kumar, 13 and the plastic surgeon are the ones staying on, right? Cut-throat-bitch is out soon.

Yep.

My wife was impressed that I told her which ones would get flowers for sure! :D

I like Cut Throat Bitch myself. Man, what a pair of legs! :eek:

Yep.

I like Cut Throat Bitch myself. Man, what a pair of legs! :eek:

Right. They would squeeze you until your eyes popped out.

Loved this episode. It also proves to me that I definitely do not like Foreman's character and that I can do without him. He just rubs me the wrong way for some reason.

Loved this episode. It also proves to me that I definitely do not like Foreman's character and that I can do without him. He just rubs me the wrong way for some reason.
Come on. That's the point of his character. He is similar to Big Love. All of that "I'm so ethically superior" to you attitude. Foreman does that tremendously. I always thought that House was trying to get Foreman to realize they were different sides of the same coin. The only real difference is that Foreman might actually care about the patient living. But, that interest is mainly so that he can say "See, I'm the best." Not out of any real interest in the well-being of the patient.

Yep.

I like Cut Throat Bitch myself. Man, what a pair of legs! :eek:

yeah, but those pair doesn't really make a good as$ out of themselves.:p;)

Loved this episode. It also proves to me that I definitely do not like Foreman's character and that I can do without him. He just rubs me the wrong way for some reason.

I like Foreman. He adds a bit of diversity to the show. I like watching him as much as I like watching House, but tonight I was happy he got blacklisted. It was funny when he came back to Cuddy and she seemed to agree to his demands, and then completely turned it around on him. I loved the expression on his face when he got busted. :D

I can't wait to see how they use the old team and the new team.

I
I can't wait to see how they use the old team and the new team.

I think this is a novelty that will wear off, and ultimately we will look back and realize that this is when the show jumped the shark. I am really hoping that they play this line out and go back to the original team. I am enjoying it for now............

I disagree completely. I perfer the new team and feel that all the cameos from the old team members have given the season a bit of a stale taste. They really don't add anything to the episode and almost only seem to be there because the producers of the show want to hand them a paycheck for all the great work they did in previous seasons.

What's the point of having the old team back with House? They no longer feel even slightly threatened by any of House's quips or nutty demands as opposed to the first couple seasons. We watched them face House each week and ever so slowly get a backbone so that when House asked them to do something they didn't feel comfortable they simply said "No I won't do that" at the end of last season. Now they think for themselves as opposed to just doing House's bidding and occasionaly throwing in the odd suggestion that would get shot down. There is no longer the chemistry between the characters that I think most people long for when they ask for the old team to come back.

Great show.

my 2cents

Loved this episode. It also proves to me that I definitely do not like Foreman's character and that I can do without him. He just rubs me the wrong way for some reason.

I really tend to not like the Foreman character when he is not on screen with House. Which was the case with this last episode.

However, it is the interaction between Foreman and House that makes Foreman such a great character.

I liked the send up of the various reality shows, too. It was fun. I also agree than last night’s episode was entertaining, although the actress who played the delusional Ukrainian girl seemed to me to be miscast. The actress who played her, Azura Skye (no kidding), was born in LA and her version of a Ukrainian accent seemed mostly to wobble between Scottish and Cockney. Still, it was a good episode over all, I thought.

I disagree completely. I perfer the new team and feel that all the cameos from the old team members have given the season a bit of a stale taste. They really don't add anything to the episode and almost only seem to be there because the producers of the show want to hand them a paycheck for all the great work they did in previous seasons.

I really hate to agree, but you are right. Having Cameron pop up for a majority of the last episode, by herself, just seemed weird to me. She really didn't fit in with the new direction of the show IMHO. I hope they have a plan or are planning on cutting down the cast significantly during the course of the season. I guess we will see.

I disagree completely. I perfer the new team and feel that all the cameos from the old team members have given the season a bit of a stale taste. They really don't add anything to the episode and almost only seem to be there because the producers of the show want to hand them a paycheck for all the great work they did in previous seasons.


There's no point in me arguing back about our preferences, but as far as the producers plans, I can only assume that the original team is still there because they are a part of the long term plans. I see the new team as part of a single season story arc, but perhaps some of the newbies will last beyond this season. With the great success of many shows which have an ensemble cast, I don't see this as that big of a stretch.

I really tend to not like the Foreman character when he is not on screen with House. Which was the case with this last episode.

However, it is the interaction between Foreman and House that makes Foreman such a great character.

I don't think we're supposed to totally "like" Foreman. He is a pretty unlikeable guy. He doesn't want to think of himself in the negative light he sees House, but he is the most self-centered character on the show. He views his friends as "colleagues", breaks rules when it will benefit him, and isn't mature enough to know admit his mistake (quitting). The final scene with Cuddy was great. Foreman saw himself as someone worthy of more money, assistants and offices, while taking advantage of the one person who was decent to him when no one else would touch him.

I don't think we're supposed to totally "like" Foreman. He is a pretty unlikeable guy. He doesn't want to think of himself in the negative light he sees House, but he is the most self-centered character on the show. He views his friends as "colleagues", breaks rules when it will benefit him, and isn't mature enough to know admit his mistake (quitting). The final scene with Cuddy was great. Foreman saw himself as someone worthy of more money, assistants and offices, while taking advantage of the one person who was decent to him when no one else would touch him.
I can’t decide why, exactly, but I have liked the recent unemployed Foreman a lot better than I liked him last season, when he was still a member of House’s team. Foreman is often an arrogant twit but I gave him high marks for recognizing reality and accepting Cuddy’s offer to come back to work at the hospital at the same money and with no “conditions.” He proved to me, arrogance aside, that he can be humble enough not to cut off his nose to spite his face.

I agree with an earlier poster’s comment that Cameron’s sudden jump back into the middle of House’s life was weird. I hadn’t missed her.

Hey, all the actors did a great job over the last 3 years and deserve a paycheck, but the show revolves around Hugh Laurie. He's taken a great character, great writing and driven to the hoop. I can't think of anyone, that inhabits a character envelope, constantly pushing its bounds in a totally consistent way, the way he does. As long as the writing stays good, and the supporting players adequate..."IT DON"T MATTER WHAT THEIR NAME IS"

I agree with an earlier poster’s comment that Cameron’s sudden jump back into the middle of House’s life was weird. I hadn’t missed her.

Nor I. Note however that was the new Cameron, now on her third hair color.

Come on, doesn't anyone notice the new "Vibe" Cameron has with House? They are no longer pupil and teacher, she is treating him as an equal. Notice the banter and the side bets - Would Cameron of old act this way?

There are lots of directions the "oldies" can take just as the "newbies" can be used in various ways. We'll just have to wait and see.

Count me in as another one who thinks Cameron's role in this last episode was forced and out of place.

Hmm. It just gets worse and worse.

Despite the few yucks found with House's parodies of (Un)Reality TV, I find the new humor to be painfully forced, mostly between weak characters that have no chemistry between them, or in relation to House. Wost of all, it seems they're keeping the very worst of the worst around for at least a few more episodes until the ratings go down like Paris Hilton in a bathroom stall.

13 over Turbo Bitch?
Problematic and depressing Cameron clone beats out guaranteed weekly deception or backstabbing?

Dr. Big Boobs over Big Love?
Whiny, uncharismatic bore beats out guarantted butt of House jokes and potential fights?

Kumar over Dr. No (Degree)?
Shallow, unforgettable character beats out guaranteed Cuddy evasion and possible lawsuits?

Forget about the show jumping the shark. If things keep up the way they've been heading, it will have been torn asunder, eaten alive, digested, and soon resemble the stale sh*t one usually finds at the bottom of the tank, ala the very shows it's now making fun of. Sad. :(

I've been enjoying this season so far. I was tired of the same exact scenario every week. There are still elements of the old system, but the new doctors freshen it up. Go ahead and stop watching, I doubt you'll be missed.

Hmm. It just gets worse and worse.

Despite the few yucks found with House's parodies of (Un)Reality TV, I find the new humor to be painfully forced, mostly between weak characters that have no chemistry between them, or in relation to House. Wost of all, it seems they're keeping the very worst of the worst around for at least a few more episodes until the ratings go down like Paris Hilton in a bathroom stall.

13 over Turbo Bitch?
Problematic and depressing Cameron clone beats out guaranteed weekly deception or backstabbing?

Dr. Big Boobs over Big Love?
Whiny, uncharismatic bore beats out guarantted butt of House jokes and potential fights?

Kumar over Dr. No (Degree)?
Shallow, unforgettable character beats out guaranteed Cuddy evasion and possible lawsuits?

Forget about the show jumping the shark. If things keep up the way they've been heading, it will have been torn asunder, eaten alive, digested, and soon resemble the stale sh*t one usually finds at the bottom of the tank, ala the very shows it's now making fun of. Sad. :(

Well gee, I thought I liked the episode until I read your post.

Send the villagers out and lets torch the castle.

Just kidding. It was getting a little too predictable with the previous crew. I thought the episode was refreshing.:)

thought last nights episode was the weakest of the season. I found myself bored with the patient and the alpha male thing seemed forced.

Foreman was good in his role.

House to Foreman in the restroom:

"You smell that!"

:D

House to Foreman in the restroom:

"You smell that!"

:D

LOL.:D

I'm sorry guys, but I love the House and Foreman interactions more than anything. I don't just watch the show for the House character and who he can randomly abuse.

Best episode of the season by far...but one of the most unrealistic things I've ever seen in any TV show happened (and I'm not picky about realism in television).

House was paged because the patient crashed...and the very next scene shows the doctors running up to the collapsed patient, in the hallway. So someone paged House, but nobody bothered to help the patient in the meantime? Yeah right.

thought last nights episode was the weakest of the season. I found myself bored with the patient and the alpha male thing seemed forced.

Foreman was good in his role.

I agree, it wasn't the best, but foreman realizing that he is back where he belongs was a good thing. I think it will help his character grow.

thought last nights episode was the weakest of the season.
That's funny, I (and everyone I was watching it with) thought it was the best episode yet.

Weakest episode of the season. Had to force myself to stay awake. Few great moments, lots of not so great. Also don't like them forcing the old crew down our throats. Why did his old employee (the now blond girl) have to be on the show, it just seems forced that she made an appearance in this episode, and she left a patient with a hole in his knee to answer a question about House, lame.

Cudy still dresses so inappropriately for the diretor of the hospital, its laughable.

Weakest episode of the season. Had to force myself to stay awake. Few great moments, lots of not so great. Also don't like them forcing the old crew down our throats. Why did his old employee (the now blond girl) have to be on the show, it just seems forced that she made an appearance in this episode, and she left a patient with a hole in his knee to answer a question about House, lame.

Cudy still dresses so inappropriately for the diretor of the hospital, its laughable.

Last first. Cuddy is the Director of the hospital so she sets the standards for the dress code. What YOU think is inappropriate, SHE thinks IS appropriate.

I, actually, enjoyed this episode and am pleased that the "old" crew can give the "new" crew tips on how to handle House :) It means that House will have to find NEW ways to humiliate his team :) House (the show) is changing ... after 3 years of one format he (it) is morphing (evolving) into another format which will enthrall us for another 3 years (hopefully). :)

This episode may have just saved this abysmal season.

Having Foreman back in more than a bit part seemed to breathe new life into each and every one of the "real" characters on the show. House was absolutely on fire, finally reconnecting the the House of old, delivering zinger after zinger, with perfect timing and astoundingly believable passion that's been missing for weeks. Cuddy came through in superb fashion, playing brilliantly as an adversary (with breasts). Foreman once again reminds us why he's an ideal companion to House, turning in a brilliant mixture of comedy and seriousness with a conviction to a role that simply cannot be replaced by some two-bit actor(s) with markedly lesser talents.

Time to send Kumar and friends back to White Castle and pull this show out of the downward ratings spiral it's been suffering, and back into the Top 10, where it belongs, rewarding the true fans, particularly for those of us that have watched since day one.

Personally, I'd like to see Foreman promoted to an equal position with House, throw Cameron and Chase on Foreman's team, and have a weekly race to see who wins resolving the case. Or give Foreman Big Love, Mega Bitch, and Grumpy, while House can keep Burger Boy, Crybaby/Killer Girl, and Dr. Big Boobs as a severe handicap.

My faith and hope is restored...for now.

pull this show out of the downward ratings spiral it's been suffering, and back into the Top 10, where it belongs

The show has been doing extremely well in the ratings and was, once again, the #2 show of the night with a HUGE audience.

And, more important, number 1 in the 18-49 demographic. Loved the episode - hysterical, better than any damn sitcom - and interesting as well. And Laurie makes it all happen. One of the best episodes I've seen, I think. Only issue I had was he didn't explain the disease at the end like he normally does; maybe ran out of time. Also, no more CSI special effects - rushing through the bloodstream, etc.; maybe one more formulaic device they've dropped.

Time to send Kumar and friends back to White Castle and pull this show out of the downward ratings spiral it's been suffering, and back into the Top 10, where it belongs, rewarding the true fans, particularly for those of us that have watched since day one.


What ratings data are you reading? Certainly not the data Nielson is putting out.

Sure, I suppose it's probably down from its post-Idol super-high, but it's top ten, one of (if not) the most DVRed programs, and it's the only returning show to grow year to year this season (and probably in the last several years).

This week was top notch. It amazes me how they manage to outdo themselves week after week when it's been so consistently good for so long. Next week looks great too.

I also agree than last night’s episode was entertaining, although the actress who played the delusional Ukrainian girl seemed to me to be miscast. The actress who played her, Azura Skye (no kidding), was born in LA and her version of a Ukrainian accent seemed mostly to wobble between Scottish and Cockney.
I apologize for responding to my own post from last week but I thought that I should report that I saw Azura Skye (no kidding) in this week’s Bones’ episode and she was terrific. It just goes to show that putting the right actor in the right part is vital. In the Bones episode Skye played a beautiful but kind of weird private detective. She was adorable and just as funny and charming as she could be. Best of all, she avoided a Ukrainian accent. :)

This episode may have just saved this abysmal season.

Time to send Kumar and friends back to White Castle and pull this show out of the downward ratings spiral it's been suffering, and back into the Top 10, where it belongs, rewarding the true fans, particularly for those of us that have watched since day one.



been a fan since day 1 and have watched every episode. I have enjoyed this season a lot. House had a 10.3 overnight rating last night, #1 for the 18-49 demographic, so I guess others enjoy the show too. Kal Penn is a great addition to the staff. Give the writers credit for shaking up the cast in an effort to avoid the show getting stale. The interaction between House and his old team was becoming very routine.

That's funny, I (and everyone I was watching it with) thought it was the best episode yet.
ditto. my girlfriend and I both agreed it was the best episode of the season.

The solution had much more emotion then usual. Rather then the usual House figures out the problem while talking to someone about some random subject, he has to investigate and think outside the box.

I've loved this season more than the previous three.

I thought by season three House was getting a bit too procedural, and I largely stopped watching except for reruns when nothing else I hadn't watched was on. How many versions of "the twelve year old girl was having sex with boys at school and molested by her father and that's how her mom contracted Alzheimer's" did we need?

Season four admits the medical mystery is just a MacGuffin. The show is foremost about House treating people like dirt. Plug in a bunch of foils and watch the hijinks ensue.

I hate the show when it focuses most on the medical mystery of the week. In fact, as the show hints we're heading back that way, I'm looking for the exit.

I've been watching House recorded along with Reaper. If House goes back to being a medical procedural, I'm going back to just watching Reaper.

Well, my bad. I somehow missed House when I looked at the ratings list. Kids distract. :(

Hopefully, we can continue the current course and keep repeatedly shaking things up to keep the "fans" happy. We can go from a compelling and in-depth medical drama, based upon a damaged, yet genius doctor that occasionally uses brilliant and biting sarcasm in his interactions to distance himself from any real relationship with his dynamic and flavorful supporting cast to a slapstick, zany, and shallow comedy, based on a cranky, yet silly guy that always resorts to throwing a pie in someone's face to distance himself from his ever-changing supporting cast of talking jackasses. Nyuk-nyuk-nyuk and a poke in the eye for dear, ol' Mr. Ed.

Riveting.

The day Penn turns in an episode like Epps did in Euphoria, I'll retract my statements entirely.


*UPDATE: This just in! Future seasons plot lines revealed:

Season 4: House rips the nobodies apart week after week and they all quit after a fart joke. Refreshing.

Season 5: The fish-in-a-barrel approach continues, as House makes high school med wannabes cower. Enthralling.

Season 6: More of the same, House berates a bunch of grade-schoolers on playgrounds. "Fans" love it.

Season 7: House is moved to pediatrics and bludgeons babies with his cane each episode to the sheer delight of the new audience. Medical cases are thrown out the window altogether, as viewers don't want to bothered with actual thought. Pregnant women are poisoned in a bold, pre-emptive strike, all while the fetus is used as a hand puppet for the finale. Superb.

I can hardly wait.

Hopefully, we can continue the current course and keep repeatedly shaking things up to keep the "fans" happy.
Oh, so the people who like this season aren't real fans now? Even the ones who have been watching since day one, and have seen every single episode. But because we don't think like you, we're not real fans.

Season 7: House is moved to pediatrics and bludgeons babies with his cane each episode to the sheer delight of the new audience. Medical cases are thrown out the window altogether, as viewers don't want to bothered with actual thought. Pregnant women are poisoned in a bold, pre-emptive strike, all while the fetus is used as a hand puppet for the finale. Superb.

I can hardly wait.Now that would be TV worth watching.

Sweeps week could be "Euthanasia Day" where the geriatric and pregnant mommas can be setup in wheelchairs on the track in front of the hospital during the Newark Grand Prix ala Death Race 5000. Mean Bitch and Aussie Boy can cover the action while House quips supreme at Wilson and Cuddy as the points mount up.

Who said story arcs are hard...:D

From the previews i'm really looking forward to the next episode. I've always thought that getting House outside of the hospital environment could open up a lot of interesting story ideas.

Now we just need a House/Wilson camping trip.

Now we just need a House/Wilson camping trip.

That would be hilarous.

Oh, so the people who like this season aren't real fans now?

I wouldn't go that far, but I would say that you are a fan of a very different show than House was the first 3 seasons.

The first three seasons House was a drama that featured a medical procedural style with some very original and unforced humor mixed in. The medical cases were interesting and provided the audience a chance to witness the very entertaining interactions of the team.

During the first three seasons we actually cared about whether the patient lived or died and what steps the team would take to cure the patient.

Now, House has basically turned into a comedy with a little bit of drama thrown in.

....they really did screw up changing things away from the original format.

Boy, I bet those sponsers are hopping mad that this show has the highest ratings ever. :)

I think that's just a product of the Survivor competition for new staff. House has had story arcs that plenty of people detested. Ritter, Vogler, etc. Generally I think these types of storylines are great because they challenge what's the status quo on the show.

I do agree that some of the drama appears to have been sacrificed this season at least so far. The threat of a patient death doesn't seem to wear on characters much, and House's self-medication/pain problem has not been addressed to date, I don't think.

But as those previous arcs make clear, the show rarely changes for long and seems to revert back to its core.

....they really did screw up changing things away from the original format.

Boy, I bet those sponsers are hopping mad that this show has the highest ratings ever. :)

Are you sure that this season's are the highest ever? I thought the ones following AI were.

In any event, my point is that the show has radically changed from the show that existed in seasons 1-3. Maybe it is temporary, I don't know. Also, how much of the current ratings are due to inertia from the previous seasons?

I submit that many of those fans of the House of seasons (1-3) are going to jump ship if the show continues down this path. The new dynamic is tolerable in small doses, but if the show is going transition from a serious drama with some unforced humor mixed in to a comedy with some non-nonsensical drama mixed in then the audience is going to fragment.

I've noticed that this season that several shows have changed their dynamics to a noticeable degree with characters becoming caricatures of themselves or shedding the dynamics that made the show successful (House, Heroes, C.S.I., The Office). I wonder if preparation for the writer's strike has contributed to this.

Ironically, those are my three favorite shows, and I think all three are as good as ever.

Ironically, those are my three favorite shows, and I think all three are as good as ever.

Check out the threads or other messages boards devoted to those shows and you'll see that fans of those shows are noticing a different look and feel to those shows. The Office has mostly righted itself by going back to a half hour show, however.

To be clear, many fans love the changes to the shows. "Shippers" (people who care more about character relationships than the science of the show) love the direction that C.S.I. Las Vegas has taken. They don't care about the case of the week, they want to see the private lives of the characters and to see them hook up with one another.

Also, many here love the comedic direction that House has taken. You'll find very few fans of Heroes, however, that think that it is as good as ever.

My point, though, wasn't that the shows weren't as "good" as before, but that the dynamics have changed in an abrupt way and not just in a gradual, evolutionary way.

In my opinion, the key to the continued success of HOUSE, besides the talent and likeability of the lead characters, is the creative intelligence of the writers and their ability to create non-stereotypical guest characters who are eccentric and intelligent enough to challange and sometimes best Dr. Gregory House. For example, the character John Larroquette played as a coma patient awakened for a single day and the character Nick Lane played as a mean-spirited teenage chess whiz were both highly intelligent and uniquely complex strong characters. In the same way that a hero is more believably heroic when he bests a fiercely capable villain, the people whose medical conditions Dr. House finds challenging themselves represent fiercely complex puzzles that only a brilliant House could solve. While everyone knows the mystery will be solved, the characters involved make the journey a thorougly interesting and highly stimulating one!

You make a very good point. I think coma-guy and chess-guy were two of the best episodes in House ever. I hadn't considered that before.

In my opinion, the key to the continued success of HOUSE, besides the talent and likeability of the lead characters, is the creative intelligence of the writers and their ability to create non-stereotypical guest characters who are eccentric and intelligent enough to challange and sometimes best Dr. Gregory House. For example, the character John Larroquette played as a coma patient awakened for a single day and the character Nick Lane played as a mean-spirited teenage chess whiz were both highly intelligent and uniquely complex strong characters. In the same way that a hero is more believably heroic when he bests a fiercely capable villain, the people whose medical conditions Dr. House finds challenging themselves represent fiercely complex puzzles that only a brilliant House could solve. While everyone knows the mystery will be solved, the characters involved make the journey a thorougly interesting and highly stimulating one!

Very well said. :cool:

In my opinion, the key to the continued success of HOUSE, besides the talent and likeability of the lead characters, is the creative intelligence of the writers and their ability to create non-stereotypical guest characters who are eccentric and intelligent enough to challange and sometimes best Dr. Gregory House. For example, the character John Larroquette played as a coma patient awakened for a single day and the character Nick Lane played as a mean-spirited teenage chess whiz were both highly intelligent and uniquely complex strong characters. In the same way that a hero is more believably heroic when he bests a fiercely capable villain, the people whose medical conditions Dr. House finds challenging themselves represent fiercely complex puzzles that only a brilliant House could solve. While everyone knows the mystery will be solved, the characters involved make the journey a thorougly interesting and highly stimulating one!

Exactly. That's why this season has been such a tremendous letdown. Weak and forgettable patients, even weaker and more forgettable new staff, and nobody whatsoever to truly challenge the genius that is Gregory House, either as a patient or co-worker. Stale.

What is also disconcerting is the comedy. What made House's one-liners so memorable was the selective, arid, and articulate way that they were presented. They were like tidbits of joy in a cookie-cutter world. Now, they're ground out and processed like cafeteria slop that one can't wait to be relieved of. Sad.

You make a very good point. I think coma-guy and chess-guy were two of the best episodes in House ever. I hadn't considered that before.

Don't forget the episode where House exposed his leg's loss of muscle function through vignettes to a med class, that was a true classic.

What is also disconcerting is the comedy. What made House's one-liners so memorable was the selective, arid, and articulate way that they were presented. They were like tidbits of joy in a cookie-cutter world. Now, they're ground out and processed like cafeteria slop that one can't wait to be relieved of. Sad.

Whatever.

I love this season.

Vive la difference!

Don't forget the episode where House exposed his leg's loss of muscle function through vignettes to a med class, that was a true classic.

You're right. I wish I had that one on DVR. Should we call it "leg-guy?"

You're right. I wish I had that one on DVR. Should we call it "leg-guy?"

It was called "Three Stories." My favorite of the series.

It was called "Three Stories." My favorite of the series.

Same here.

I doubt we will ever see an episode as good as that one again.

Same here.

I doubt we will ever see an episode as good as that one again.

Well, I know opinions vary, but I thought the episode where House was treating the rape victim was extremely well played.

Same here.

I doubt we will ever see an episode as good as that one again.

Well that episode was basically the House origin story so I won't be suprised if they can ever equal it.

Well, I know opinions vary, but I thought the episode where House was treating the rape victim was extremely well played.

Another excellent episode...that most people hated. (I personally LOVED it.)

Exactly. That's why this season has been such a tremendous letdown. Weak and forgettable patients, even weaker and more forgettable new staff, and nobody whatsoever to truly challenge the genius that is Gregory House, either as a patient or co-worker. Stale.

What is also disconcerting is the comedy. What made House's one-liners so memorable was the selective, arid, and articulate way that they were presented. They were like tidbits of joy in a cookie-cutter world. Now, they're ground out and processed like cafeteria slop that one can't wait to be relieved of. Sad.

My thoughts exactly.

Well, I know opinions vary, but I thought the episode where House was treating the rape victim was extremely well played.

While Three Stories is my personal favorite. This is right up there. Also the episode with the young girl with cancer in the beginning of season 2 is my 2nd favorite.

Nearly all of the episodes mentioned are each oozing with character development, rich in storyline, brilliantly written, and heavily dependent upon the background of the House staff, each in direct relationship to either each other or the patient.

How can they even come close to making such an episode this season with such a flimsy, disjointed, and shallow team? Short answer: They can't. This will likely go down in retrospect as the worst season ever, with not a single episode making it into the majority of most people's top ten.

Maybe the writer's strike affected House earlier than some other shows. :(

Nearly all of the episodes mentioned are each oozing with character development, rich in storyline, brilliantly written, and heavily dependent upon the background of the House staff, each in direct relationship to either each other or the patient.

How can they even come close to making such an episode this season with such a flimsy, disjointed, and shallow team? Short answer: They can't. This will likely go down in retrospect as the worst season ever, with not a single episode making it into the majority of most people's top ten.

Maybe the writer's strike affected House earlier than some other shows. :(

Right. The problem is that we have had a large class of "candidates" that House has had to wade through. As a result, the character development is very slow. And what character development there is re the candidates isn't particularly good or enlightening, but rather shallow.....even with the Black Mormon.

I still think the season is great. If you don't like it, don't watch. Pretty simple.

I still think the season is great. If you don't like it, don't watch. Pretty simple.
But if you don't watch, how can you come in this thread and whine about how terrible the show is becoming?

Took a risk and changed direction...the entire selection process is a story arc, hopefully with a payoff of settled down great episodes based on new, fresh paradigms. I think the producers looked at the formula, figured they'd gone as far as they could without inevitable dropoff...then decided to evolve. Whether it ends up better or worse is still undecided. The show is in transition. It's still very enjoyable, there will be some pearls and some slime.

Interesting, if strange, episode tonight. Wonder what role the CIA doc will play long term. I am beginning to think that House may end up with the same three he started out with. That would be unusual.

This will likely go down in retrospect as the worst season ever, with not a single episode making it into the majority of most people's top ten.

Funny, many of this season's episodes already are in my personal top 10 and that of other House fans I know.

I personally like the fact that it's not the Cameron/Chase show every week this season with some Foreman thrown in.

Michael Michelle can stay as long as she wants. This is the first bit of sizzle I've seen all season. From what we've been shown she has some backbone and is able to deal with House, she makes all the other newbies look like whiny kids.

As for tonights plot,all I can say is perhaps the writers strike will allow the writers to rest up and get some sleep, apparently they need it if this is the best drivel they can come up with -- faked polio? I hated that whole storyline, did not buy it a bit. However I would really like to see the CIA angle explored a bit more, lots of interesting stories can be hung on that hook, lets see more.

-- faked polio? I hated that whole storyline, did not buy it a bit.

I like the ongoing "TV insider" jokes, though. 'That guy's nuts' was clearly a reference to the character he played on "Huff." ... And for some reason, I laughed hysterically and at some length when "Cutthroat Bitch" appeared on House's cell-phone.

And for some reason, I laughed hysterically and at some length when "Cutthroat Bitch" appeared on House's cell-phone.
You're not the only one.

I could see Doctor CIA, Cutthroat Bitch, and Olivia Wilde as the new team.

I wonder if they ever thought about having Ashley Force come in and play the part that was obviously modeled on her.

I laughed at the "Cutthroat Bitch" thing too, though I've got to wonder would House really give any of the newbies his number????

I laughed at the "Cutthroat Bitch" thing too, though I've got to wonder would House really give any of the newbies his number????

I don't think that he gave them his number, but if they really want the job, they would be clever enough to obtain it.

Michael Michelle can stay as long as she wants. This is the first bit of sizzle I've seen all season. From what we've been shown she has some backbone and is able to deal with House, she makes all the other newbies look like whiny kids.

As for tonights plot,all I can say is perhaps the writers strike will allow the writers to rest up and get some sleep, apparently they need it if this is the best drivel they can come up with -- faked polio? I hated that whole storyline, did not buy it a bit. However I would really like to see the CIA angle explored a bit more, lots of interesting stories can be hung on that hook, lets see more.
Agreed, too farfetched. I know what they were trying to do on paper, and with the Forman/House parallels, but it just didn't work. And now another cast member - great. It seems there's no time for anyone - even House got sidelined. I hope the strike allows them to rethink things here.

I am surprised there is so much negativity on this ep. I thought this was the best (and funniest) of the season. I was in tears from laughing so hard at one point.

The best parts of this episode where when House was with the CIA and his interactions there. When it was back with Foreman and the old gang I would moan, it was boring, same old. Some of the best and funniest moments continue to be with House and Wilson, that stuff is perfect, cracks me up every time.

I am surprised there is so much negativity on this ep. I thought this was the best (and funniest) of the season. I was in tears from laughing so hard at one point.

easily the best episode of the season.

I liked this week’s episode, too. Having less of Cameron and Chase has been refreshing. I also grew more than a little tired of Foreman by the end of last season but the writers have managed to make him a good deal more interesting this season.

I thought that the twist at the end of the show, which both explained the medical mystery surrounding the girl dragster driver and created a reason to run off another of the fellowship candidates, was inspired.

I also think it was the best episode of the season and the ending was a nice surprise. I've been dreading Foreman's appearances, but I actually felt sorry for him last night and liked that House gave him some support.

I also think it was an interesting look inside look of House's psyche, how he offered a "position" (pun intended) to the CIA doctor and then she actually shows up for a job he's now obligated to hire her without knowing anything about her "qualifications", but I suppose it's not those particular "talents" he's interested in anyways...

The best line of the night was House blowing the joke (on purpose) of offering her a position on his "staff". Great show.

I also think it was an interesting look inside look of House's psyche, how he offered a "position" (pun intended) to the CIA doctor and then she actually shows up for a job he's now obligated to hire her without knowing anything about her "qualifications", but I suppose it's not those particular "talents" he's interested in anyways...

House's look at the end was interesting....him realizing he's caused someone to quit her job....without necessarily having the authority to actually hire her.

him realizing he's caused someone to quit her job....without necessarily having the authority to actually hire her.What do you mean? Obviously he can hire people---that's what the whole contest thing is about.

The polio plotline really grated on me until the twist at the end with DWB poisoning the patient to forward his agenda. I thought that was a good end to his story, and believable given his confrontation with House the other week. Redeemed that one.

Other than that, there was not enough Wilson and Cuddy.

I thought the episode was marvelous, but of course I love the PI humour. "Cutthroat bitch" was priceless, as was......"shiksas are for practice" and "two minutes and a dramamine" (or something like that). This is one of the few shows (that I watch) where you can get stuff like that.

On a more serious note, I thought one of the most insightful lines House has ever uttered appeared at the end of the episode, when he asked the crew "who did I leave in charge"? When they point to Foreman he points out (paraphrasing) "there's a reason for that. Listen to what he says". DUH.


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'House' afire: Fox series up 18 percent
Averaging a 7.9 rating in 18-49s season to date
By Toni Fitzgerald MediaLifeMagazine.com staff writer Wednesday, November 7, 2007

While other veteran shows are seeing year-to-year decreases due to everything from digital video recorders to greater new media competition, Fox’s Tuesday lineup is having no such problem.

“House” and “Bones” continue to see double-digit year-to-year growth in adults 18-49, and last night the pair combined for yet another winning Tuesday.

“House” averaged a 7.7 in adults 18-49, according to Nielsen overnights, up 10 percent over last week. Season to date, the show is averaging a 7.9 rating, up 18 percent over this time last year.

The show dominated its timeslot, more than doubling No. 2 “Dancing with the Stars” at 9 p.m.

While “Bones” finished second in its 8 p.m. slot behind CBS’s “NCIS,” it also saw gains from last week, up 13 percent from a 3.2 to a season-high 3.6. Season to date, the show is averaging a 3.5 rating, up 21 percent from last year in the demo.

That helped Fox finish far ahead of the competition Tuesday, the sixth night of sweeps. Fox led the night among viewers 18-49 with a 5.6 average overnight rating and a 14 share. NBC was second at 3.6/9, CBS third at 3.0/8, ABC fourth at 2.8/7, Univision fifth at 1.7/4 and CW sixth at 1.1/3.

CBS started the night in the lead with a 4.1 rating at 8 p.m. for “NCIS,” followed by Fox with a 3.6 for “Bones.” NBC was third with a 3.1 for its first hour of “The Biggest Loser,” ABC fourth with a 1.8 average for “Cavemen” (1.7) and “Carpoolers” (1.9), Univision fifth with a 1.5 for “Amar sin Limites” and CW sixth with a 1.3 for “Beauty and the Geek,” up 18 percent over last week.

Fox jumped ahead at 9 p.m. with a 7.7 for “House,” while ABC moved to second with a 3.8 for the “Dancing with the Stars” results show. NBC was third with a 3.5 for its second hour of “The Biggest Loser,” CBS fourth with a 3.0 for “The Unit,” Univision fifth with a 2.4 for “Destilando Amor” and CW sixth with a 1.0 for “Reaper.”

At 10 p.m. NBC was first with a 4.2 for “Law & Order: Special Victims Unit,” with ABC second with a 2.7 for “Boston Legal.” CBS was third with a 1.9 for “Cane” and Univision fourth with a 1.1 for “Como Ama una Mujer.”

Fox finished first for the night among households with an 8.3 average overnight rating and a 12 share. CBS was second at 7.9/12, ABC third at 7.5/12, NBC fourth at 6.0/9, Univision fifth at 2.1/3 and CW sixth at 1.7/3.

http://www.medialifemagazine.com/art...20_percent.asp

I agree that this was easily the best episode of the season- the show isn't all the way back to the quality of previous seasons but this is a good start.

This was the first episode that anyone could really care about what happened to the patient and in this case we had two that were interesting.

This is also the first episode this season where the show didn't feel like a comedy. I hope the writers don't "Homer Simpson" House's character - i.e. during the prime years of the series Homer's dumbness enhanced the show but in latter years the show was centered on Homer's dumbness and the rest of the show was just fluff.

I'm certainly encouraged by this last episode, however.

I think last night was the first time I heard "penis" and "vagina" within minutes of each other on a primetime network show. I guess they can do it because it is a "medical" show.

I think last night was the first time I heard "penis" and "vagina" within minutes of each other on a primetime network show. I guess they can do it because it is a "medical" show.


It also sounds more professional than "winkie" and "woo-woo".

House's look at the end was interesting....him realizing he's caused someone to quit her job....without necessarily having the authority to actually hire her.Actually I think that look was supposed to be more a mix of shock, awe, lust and a little, "Oh ****, I finally met my match".

We finally got to see House dumbstruck.