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Tya
05-30-05, 09:16 AM
Hi All,

I Purchased the tx nr1000 about 1 month ago. My question is can mp3's and other music formats be accessed thru the mserver when the pc is off? Or is only accessible when the pc and net central are on? THX in advance!

Net radio works nothing else.

/Tommy

menexxus
05-30-05, 06:23 PM
Net radio works nothing else.

/Tommy

So only net radio works while the pc is off? But, I cant access the music files on my pc when the pc off. :( Am I getting this right? :confused:

Johnla
05-30-05, 06:37 PM
So only net radio works while the pc is off? But, I cant access the music files on my pc when the pc off. Am I getting this right? :confused:

If your PC is turned off, just how do you think you would be able to access anything that is stored on the PC itself?

oztech
05-30-05, 08:37 PM
i purchased the integra dtr-10.5 and dps-10.5 tis month and i am very pleased

sky-chicken
06-12-05, 09:16 PM
I can not make the HDMI output work with my 50 inch Sony Plasma XS910. I talked to Onkyo (very nice people) but no success. Somehow the sync between the HDMI and DVI input from the Sony do not talk to each other. If I connect any HDMI it works. It looks like the TX-NR1000 is not 100 % backward compatible with DVI. Anyone with the same problem ? My setup is DirectTV HDMI - TX-NR100 HDMI to DVI converter cable -- Sony XS910 DVI

DCIFRTHS
06-12-05, 11:14 PM
I can not make the HDMI output work with my 50 inch Sony Plasma XS910. I talked to Onkyo (very nice people) but no success. Somehow the sync between the HDMI and DVI input from the Sony do not talk to each other. If I connect any HDMI it works. It looks like the TX-NR1000 is not 100 % backward compatible with DVI. Anyone with the same problem ? My setup is DirectTV HDMI - TX-NR100 HDMI to DVI converter cable -- Sony XS910 DVI

Have you tried to connect the Direct TV HDMI output directly to the DVI input on the Sony (using the HDMI to DVI cable of course)? If so, what happens?

Some of the earlier Sony DVI inputs weren't completely compatible with HDCP. You might want to contact Sony to see if your model falls into this category.

sky-chicken
06-13-05, 06:53 PM
Have you tried to connect the Direct TV HDMI output directly to the DVI input on the Sony (using the HDMI to DVI cable of course)? If so, what happens?

Some of the earlier Sony DVI inputs weren't completely compatible with HDCP. You might want to contact Sony to see if your model falls into this category.

Yes I did and it works fine. That the way I used it before I bought the TX-NR1000.
The 10-250 HDMI output with converter to DVI. All my HDMI equipment works fine (Samsung 850, Crestron DVP4,) but as soon I connect them to TX1000 it will not work. I noticed also that the Onkyo does not shut down the component output on the 10-250 DirectTV. If I use the HDMI with DVI with my Sony the component output shuts down (copy protection on the 10-250) if I connect it to the TX1000 I can still use the component ??? I bought an extra 20 inch LCD with HDMI only to check if the HDMI card is defect but with this LCD (Panasonic) it works great.
Onkyo had no explanation for the behavior and they told me that they support DVI to there HDMI but not there HDMI to DVI ...???? DVI input OK but "to DVI output" not supported ???

DCIFRTHS
06-14-05, 05:31 AM
.....Onkyo had no explanation for the behavior and they told me that they support DVI to there HDMI but not there HDMI to DVI ...???? DVI input OK but "to DVI output" not supported ???

That's bad news, and is making me rethink if I should purchase or not....

hifiky
06-14-05, 09:42 AM
Sky-Chicken, I have the same set up, TX-NR1000, HR10-250 DirectTV, And a new Sony Plasma KDE-50XBR950
I have the HD Tivo connected via HDMI to HDMI into the onkyo and HDMI to DVI into my tv. Everything works fine.
I also dont know how the onkyo could affect the component output switch on the HR10-250 DirectTV. Unless the HR10-250 is not recognizing the HDMI is in use. I know that the earlier HR10-250 had HDMI issues. I had to return one myself.
Have you tried just a hdmi passthough on the onkyo? Maybe it is your HDMI to DVI cable.

sky-chicken
06-15-05, 02:04 PM
Sky-Chicken, I have the same set up, TX-NR1000, HR10-250 DirectTV, And a new Sony Plasma KDE-50XBR950
I have the HD Tivo connected via HDMI to HDMI into the onkyo and HDMI to DVI into my tv. Everything works fine.
I also dont know how the onkyo could affect the component output switch on the HR10-250 DirectTV. Unless the HR10-250 is not recognizing the HDMI is in use. I know that the earlier HR10-250 had HDMI issues. I had to return one myself.
Have you tried just a hdmi passthough on the onkyo? Maybe it is your HDMI to DVI cable.


That is strange ?? The only difference is that you have the Sony Flagship "XBR" with same TFT panel but total different electronic. I have the consumer version of yours the 50XS910 :-( Would it be possible for you to check if you use the DirectTV unit with HDMI if you still able to use the component output on the 10-250 ?
I was on the phone with Onkyo for about 3 days and they did "step by step" every possible setting. The easy test was only connect the Sony to the Onkyo HDMI output and not even the OSD menu shows up. I used DVI converter and also an $200 Monster cable HDMI to DVI with no success. First I thought the HDMI card is defective but it works with an Panasonic LCD. Plugged it in and the OSD came right up. I hope that future HDMI support this. The successor of my 50XS910 the 50XS950 has HDMI and it suppose to work. Wished I had the money for the XBR :-)

hifiky
06-15-05, 05:26 PM
That is strange, my media box is separate from my plasma, so maybe it has something to do with the difference in electronics? I will check my component out on my hr-10-250 to see if it is disabled and let you know. I know my old one disabled the component when I used HDMI. (even though the HDMI didn't work)

I also found a UK home cinema choice review on the TX NR 1000 ( they call it the tx nr 5000) http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/displayreview.php?reviewid=5657
and it says:
"Connectivity is excellent- the receiver's ability to upscale all video inputs to the HDMI link is unusual but convienient' although bizarrely, this won't work if your display requires an HDMI-DVI adaptor-and build quality is first class."

This makes me think that the problem is in the conversion of signals other than HDMI. But I guess that really dosn't apply to you, unless it has somethin to do with the HR-10-250 and you component connection not shutting down.I don't know. Let me know what you think.

Dmitry
06-21-05, 02:24 AM
Go to: http://www.onkyousa.com/download/firmware.cfm

Once you unzip the file, there is a .PDF file that takes you step-by-step.

You need to connect a regular (not null-modem) serial cable between your computer and TX-NR1000 (why they do not use the Ethernet connection is really dumb).

I used a Radio Shack 6-Ft. Serial RS-232C Cable; Catalog #: 26-117 http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=26-117

Sorry to resurrect this thread after such a while, what port settings (baud rate, etc.) do I need to use?

DCIFRTHS
06-21-05, 03:18 AM
That is strange ?? The only difference is that you have the Sony Flagship "XBR" with same TFT panel but total different electronic. I have the consumer version of yours the 50XS910 :-( Would it be possible for you to check if you use the DirectTV unit with HDMI if you still able to use the component output on the 10-250 ?
I was on the phone with Onkyo for about 3 days and they did "step by step" every possible setting. The easy test was only connect the Sony to the Onkyo HDMI output and not even the OSD menu shows up. I used DVI converter and also an $200 Monster cable HDMI to DVI with no success. First I thought the HDMI card is defective but it works with an Panasonic LCD. Plugged it in and the OSD came right up. I hope that future HDMI support this. The successor of my 50XS910 the 50XS950 has HDMI and it suppose to work. Wished I had the money for the XBR :-)

For clarification: You are saying that you get no output to your display using the HDMI out on the TX1000 to the DVI in on your display, and this happens regardless of the source used. You can't even see the OSD display from the TX1000 itself.

Is this correct?

Is anyone else having this problem?

sky-chicken
06-21-05, 03:20 PM
For clarification: You are saying that you get no output to your display using the HDMI out on the TX1000 to the DVI in on your display, and this happens regardless of the source used. You can't even see the OSD display from the TX1000 itself.

Is this correct?

Is anyone else having this problem?


Yes, that is correct. It is an known issue and there is no fix out right now.
This is in combination with my 50XS910 50" Sony plasma. The XBR version works ?? Onkyo was very helpful and called me 3 times at home going step by step' but no success.
Not even the OSD shows up (That was what Onkyo support tried first, only connect the output HDMI to the TV and turn on OSD.

sky-chicken
06-21-05, 03:23 PM
Go to: http://www.onkyousa.com/download/firmware.cfm

Once you unzip the file, there is a .PDF file that takes you step-by-step.

You need to connect a regular (not null-modem) serial cable between your computer and TX-NR1000 (why they do not use the Ethernet connection is really dumb).

I used a Radio Shack 6-Ft. Serial RS-232C Cable; Catalog #: 26-117 http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=26-117


Onkyo removed the firmware update on the web ??? Does anyone know why ??

bkzoller
06-21-05, 04:26 PM
Integra and IR also have removed the firmware download page from their websites. I don't know why. Hopefully, they will continue to provide those updates.

Brian

Dmitry
06-21-05, 04:53 PM
Integra and IR also have removed the firmware download page from their websites. I don't know why. Hopefully, they will continue to provide those updates.

Brian

Integra still has theirs up as of this posting, I downloaded it yesterday and just checked again to make sure it's still there.

bkzoller
06-21-05, 05:00 PM
Integra still has theirs up as of this posting, I downloaded it yesterday and just checked again to make sure it's still there.

Did you navigate from the top-level page or click on a direct link? I couldn't find the firmware by navigating the site.

Brian

Dmitry
06-21-05, 05:20 PM
Did you navigate from the top-level page or click on a direct link? I couldn't find the firmware by navigating the site.

Brian

Initially I Googled DPS-10.5 firmware and got that link from there, then I saw some Google's cached pages and it appears that they removed the link to the firmware page from the home page, but not the firmware download page itself. Onkyo has removed the page itself (I get an error even if I go to the page directly).

Krobar
06-21-05, 06:08 PM
Maybe its a change in attitude, and I thought Onkyo/Integra were a step above the other Jap Bread and Butter.

Tya
06-22-05, 08:08 AM
DAlba... It is my understanding that doing video overlay with an HDMI source take a lot of work, and I don't believe there are any receivers that do it right now (I know that the 5805 doesn't...)


Another question for everybody.... from reading the manual, it seems to me that the 1000 can bridge two amps for the front left and right if you don't have extra back surrounds? Is this true.. if so, I am surprised I haven't seen it mentioned alot.... Just curious.....

According to a review on audioholics forum the Denon 5805 will get a firmware update to handle this during the summer. Would be nice if Integra/Onkyo open up a bit and tell us whats going on like Denon do. At least what we could expect cardwise & firmwarewise in the not to distant future...

menexxus
07-03-05, 09:10 PM
I am a newbie....I Recently purchased the TX NR 1000.... and I am still getting used to this receiver. I have 2 problems that maybe someone here can help me with. 1st I cant figure out how to turn on the On Screen display for the menu and the volume anymore....it was there and 1 day, I may have pressed something and inadvertently shut it off. Now I cant figure out how to turn on the Menu or Volume OSD...Anyone know how? Lastly, It is my understanding that this receiver upconverts video signals....To what resolution and does this receiver do it automatically or do I have to turn it on? Thanks in advance...Alex

egcarter
07-04-05, 06:20 AM
menexxus,

The OSD is generated at the composite/S-Video level, so composite and S-video inputs will have a full OSD. So you'll get the volume bar as well as the setup menus on all levels of monitor output (composite, s-video, component and HDMI). Source components attached at the component or HDMI level will have a partial OSD. You'll get a setup menu, but no volume bar on the monitor output. The Immediate Display setup parameter will turn on or off the overlays (volume bar, etc). There is also a SETUP parameter for the OSD and its screen location.

Video upconversions to HDMI are at 480p. It does not convert to real HD resolutions. The companion Onkyo SP1000 DVD player does do that (720p, 1080i over HDMI).

Eric

DCIFRTHS
07-04-05, 06:31 AM
menexxus,

The OSD is generated at the composite/S-Video level, so composite and S-video inputs will have a full OSD. So you'll get the volume bar as well as the setup menus on all levels of monitor output (composite, s-video, component and HDMI). Source components attached at the component or HDMI level will have a partial OSD. ......

What do you mean by the last sentence? Won't all displays generated from the source component get passed on and displayed?

menexxus,

Video upconversions to HDMI are at 480p. It does not convert to real HD resolutions. The companion Onkyo SP1000 DVD player does do that (720p, 1080i over HDMI).

Eric

What is the advantage of the DVD player upconverting if the display also upconverts (in this case a Rear Projection CRT)?

egcarter
07-04-05, 06:42 AM
DCIFRTHS,

The DVD player probably does a much better job of de-interlacing and scaling than the display. It has Silicon Image de-interlacing with "2-3 pulldown" OPlus Flexscaling to HD resolutions (your choice of res and scan frequency). This is all sent over HDMI to the display (or to the receiver, then on to the display). It sure looks mighty good!

Eric

menexxus
07-04-05, 07:19 PM
menexxus,

The OSD is generated at the composite/S-Video level, so composite and S-video inputs will have a full OSD. So you'll get the volume bar as well as the setup menus on all levels of monitor output (composite, s-video, component and HDMI). Source components attached at the component or HDMI level will have a partial OSD. You'll get a setup menu, but no volume bar on the monitor output. The Immediate Display setup parameter will turn on or off the overlays (volume bar, etc). There is also a SETUP parameter for the OSD and its screen location.

Video upconversions to HDMI are at 480p. It does not convert to real HD resolutions. The companion Onkyo SP1000 DVD player does do that (720p, 1080i over HDMI).

Eric

Thanks Guys!!! Your explanation was very helpful as I was able to reset the osd I have everything set up thru s-video...until the 1080p hdtv's come out this fall.....However, I have 1 last question. I have a 7.1 setup using Aperion audio speakers.....for my fronts I have the their Powered Towers...and the speaker manuals suggest that I set the fronts at large....However, I have searched endlessly in the Onkyo setup menu and have not been able to find this setting....Does the onkyo allow for large and small setting or must i do it via the crossover setting and if so at what crossover setting? Is 80 a good crossover for the fronts and what should I set my rear dipole/bipoles & my side surround Bookshelfs. Up to this point I have been running all my speakers at 80 THX crossover setting is this right or should I readjust them? :eek:

lorelevitt
07-05-05, 01:03 AM
I just ordered a silver unit from e-cost as they were down to $ 3199 -- although I though about waiting for their next "black" sale. Anyway, if you go onto the Onkyo site they sell a 2 year extended warranty for the unit for only $ 65 -- seems like a great price for having a 4-year warranty total:

http://www.shoponkyo.com/products.cfm?group_id=10

Lore

egcarter
07-05-05, 03:56 AM
menexxus,

There is no "Large/Small" setting...you are given much more precise control of the system with the NR-TX1000 via the various settings available to you.

Eric

sky-chicken
07-06-05, 02:27 PM
does anyone know when HDMI 1.1 Module and Room Correction Module arrives ??

egcarter
07-06-05, 02:41 PM
sky-chicken,

Haven't heard a thing. (We don't know for sure if there will be a Room Correction Module, that was just a rumor). I wouldn't hold my breath until CEDIA Expo in Sept. That's where All Will Be Revealed. I wouldn't be surprised if the new modules were introduced coincidentally with the new receivers...shipping around October.

Eric


Eric

DCIFRTHS
07-06-05, 03:17 PM
sky-chicken,

Haven't heard a thing. (We don't know for sure if there will be a Room Correction Module, that was just a rumor). I wouldn't hold my breath until CEDIA Expo in Sept. That's where All Will Be Revealed. I wouldn't be surprised if the new modules were introduced coincidentally with the new receivers...shipping around October.

Eric


Eric

Any info on the new receivers?

egcarter
07-12-05, 02:53 PM
No info on the new receivers as yet...but today a new firmware version was released for the modular receivers:

TX-NR1000
DTR-10.5
RDC-7.1

Version 1.09 with these updates:

1.09 7/6/2005 i.LINK connection fix
Digital "Input Mode" specification changed
IR iRadio commands fixed
IR Tuner Direct Tuning commands fixed
minor bug fixes



Eric

ArtV
07-12-05, 03:03 PM
Where did you get this info, I couldn't find it on the IR web site?

bkzoller
07-12-05, 03:07 PM
No info on the new receivers as yet...but today a new firmware version was released for the modular receivers:

TX-NR1000
DTR-10.5
RDC-7.1

Eric

Is the firmware only available in the dealer section of those web sites? It doesn't seem to be available on the public pages just yet.

Brian

egcarter
07-12-05, 03:44 PM
Yes, The firmware is available in the dealer's sites. Call your dealer today!

Eric

Razvanel
07-13-05, 11:56 AM
Yes, The firmware is available in the dealer's sites. Call your dealer today!

Eric

Eric,

Do you happen to know why the new firmware is available on the dealer site only?

R

egcarter
07-13-05, 02:57 PM
Raz,

The updates are ALWAYS posted on the dealer sites first. I have no problem with that. I think the dealers need to be informed of things before anyone else. Your dealer is your support mechanism; use him/her!

Now, if there are illicit goods involved.... :->


Be patient...please.


Eric

gimp
07-13-05, 04:01 PM
My dealer does NOT provide support.

Raz,

The updates are ALWAYS posted on the dealer sites first. I have no problem with that. I think the dealers need to be informed of things before anyone else. Your dealer is your support mechanism; use him/her!

Now, if there are illicit goods involved.... :->


Be patient...please.


Eric

Razvanel
07-13-05, 08:50 PM
Raz,

Your dealer is your support mechanism; use him/her!


Eric,

I used my dealer and got the new upgrade from him half an hour after I e-mailed him - outstanding customer service, as always. Still, I would have liked it more if Onkyo made these upgrades available on their site.

R

Razvanel
07-13-05, 08:56 PM
Upgrade update: I did it this morning and it took about 80 minutes. The master version is now 1.09 and i-Link is 1.02. Once the update was completed I got an "i-Link error" message. I had to unplug the unit to make it work and then all my settings got erased. I had to re-enter the settings and everything's working fine now.

R

menexxus
07-16-05, 01:52 PM
Anyone know when this update will available thru the Onkyo web site?

Psylocke
07-16-05, 04:47 PM
I currently own a Pioneer Elite VSX-47TX THX Ultra2 receiver.

I am extremly happy with the sound from it but am looking to upgrade because of the need of new features. I need to have iLink, HDMI swithing video conversion ability and net tune would be nice.
I have been a Elite owner for the past 6 recievers I have owned and never once thought of switching to a different company. I once had an Onkyo and Elite side by side in my house and A-B'd them and picked the ELite. I found the Onkyo gave smoother sound for music but was a little quite for movies compared to the dynamic puch the Elite had.

I am tired of upgrading recievers for the sole purpose of new iput and processing features. The idea of adding cards and firmware upgrades is appealing to me.

I hav the opportunity to upgrade to the base version of the Integra 10.5 for 500-600CDN if I sell my unit for 2000.00.


Should I consider doing this? Is the sound going to be as dynamic and filling for movies that I get now? Will I fall in love and never look back?

Please help me cure this current upgraditis bug that has struck me because I am really confused and am having a hard time deciding.

Lastly I really like the MCACC on my pioneer and wish the integra had it. Am I going to miss that ability or is it minor?


:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

joerod
07-16-05, 08:04 PM
I have had Denon, Pioneer, HK and other flagship models and I am sold on the TX 1000. It sounds great for movies and music, plus the future capability. I can't wait to get my hands on the 4/1 HDMI module. It will be needed soon (HD DVD player). I currently use the two/one with a Iscan HD+(dvi to HDMI), the Onkyo SP 1000 and a JVC HM 5u DTHEATER player. I have to trade off when I decide on either a dvd or DTHEATER title. Even though the component output from the SP 1000 into my Iscan HD+(to 720p) still is a very good picture(probably as good as the HDMI out on the SP1000 but hard to tell) and I could get by with just that. Anyway, I would consider any receiver with the possibilities to upgrade! I like the concept of only upgrading a part instead of the whole unit... Now please Onkyo, get those modules done!

TMSKILZ
07-19-05, 08:57 AM
I just ordered a silver unit from e-cost as they were down to $ 3199 -- although I though about waiting for their next "black" sale. Anyway, if you go onto the Onkyo site they sell a 2 year extended warranty for the unit for only $ 65 -- seems like a great price for having a 4-year warranty total:

http://www.shoponkyo.com/products.cfm?group_id=10

Lore

Thanks for the heads up, but you could have saved yourself $65. If you own a Visa/MC Plat or Gold credit card, you automatically have the extended warranty benefit.

For instance I ordered my TXNR1000 using a VISA PLAT CC, this receiver has 2 yr warranty, after the warranty runs out, my VISA PLAT automatically doubles the original warranty, so I get 2 yrs extended @ no extra cost.

TMSKILZ
07-19-05, 09:05 AM
Joerod or EGCarter, or whom ever can help me out, can you answer this for me?

I am brand new to the Home Theatre System setup. I put in for a pre-order on the new Samsung 5688 1080p HDTV. It's suppose to be shipping sometime this week, so hopefully in 2wks i should have mine.

I also have a TXNR1000(s) receiver & I put in for the Samsung HD950 HDMI DVD player. I have a pair of Def Tech Mythos 5 series tower speakers, pair of Athena WS-100 towers (for my R/L surround) & Athena WS-60 as my Center Ch (Temporary Center Ch, until the Def Tech Mythos 3 Center Ch speaker price comes down) Thats my setup.

My question to you guys is concerning the best cable connection for my setup.

My original plan was to run HDMI - HDMI cables from the TV & DVD through the TXNR1000, is this the best way for my setup? Or should I connect the DVD player directly to the TV using HDMI? The Samsung 5688 has 2 HDMI connections.
I want to avoid any lip sync issues or gaming lag as well.

I own an XBOX & have old MonsterCable component cables for my connection, I suppose I connect these directly to the Onkyo right?

Thanks guys.

lorelevitt
07-19-05, 10:20 AM
I spoke with Onkyo USA today about the 1.09 firmware upgrade. Onkyo has decided to pull all firmware updates from their US and overseas sites for the TX-NR1000. Apparently alot of folks in their words produced "$ 5000 aluminum bricks" because they did not follow the directions close enough to doing the updates from their computer. They then had to send the units back to Onkyo (my guess for a board or chip replacement similar to when you hose the firmware on a computer's motherboard.) They are also in the process of informing their authorized dealers to absolutely NOT provide the firmware to the end user for installation.

Their "solution" is that the end user will have to cart the 80 lb unit into a local authorized dealer or repair shop and have the firmware updated there by appointment. Considering the number of connections on the back of the unit -- it would be quite a task to disconnect it for upgrades as well as physically move it to a dealer.

I called 4 nearby authorized repair centers and NONE of them knew anything about doing firmware updates. I can't believe that Onkyo expects these "solder shops" to be more computer proficient than their end customer.

Thus when any new boards become available, they will have to be firmware updated at a shop. What a pain. Onkyo could have easily solved the problem as Gigabyte did for their motherboards by installing DUAL firmware chips in their system which provide redundancy and backup incase of a firmware update failure.

Johnla
07-19-05, 11:47 AM
my VISA PLAT automatically doubles the original warranty, so I get 2 yrs extended @ no extra cost.

You better check again, because most Visa/MC Gold and Platinum cards will only double a warranty up to a maximum of 1 year. So in that case you would have the original 2 years from Onkyo, and then a additional 1 year from your CC.

BodegaBay
07-19-05, 11:48 AM
My question to you guys is concerning the best cable connection for my setup.

My original plan was to run HDMI - HDMI cables from the TV & DVD through the TXNR1000, is this the best way for my setup? Or should I connect the DVD player directly to the TV using HDMI? The Samsung 5688 has 2 HDMI connections.
I want to avoid any lip sync issues or gaming lag as well.

I own an XBOX & have old MonsterCable component cables for my connection, I suppose I connect these directly to the Onkyo right?

I have the Integra Research but they (Onkyo, Integra) should all work the same. I have no problems with using HDMI as video switching for my DirecTV box and DVD player. There is a audio delay feature that should eliminate any lip sync issue.

In reading your post, it looks like you only have two video sources that would need switching: the Samsung DVD player via HDMI and the XBOX via component. I don't believe the Onkyo can video switch the signals as one uses HDMI while the other component. Thus your best bet is to connect them both directly to your HDTV until you have other components that require video switching.

By the way, there is a new "review" from AudioRevolution (http://www.avrev.com/equip/integradtr10_5/index.html) on the Integra DTR-10.5 receiver. It's the twin to the Onkyo NR1000.

BodegaBay
07-19-05, 11:53 AM
You better check again, because most Visa/MC Gold and Platinum cards will only double a warranty up to a maximum of 1 year. So in that case you would have the original 2 years from Onkyo, and then a additional 1 year from your CC.

MasterCard will only give additional up to 1 year warranty for products with the original mfg.'s warranty of 1 year. Thus the most you can have is 2 years total: 1 from the mfg., 1 from M/C.

Visa will give 1 additonal year for products with original mfg's warrantly up 3 years.

In the Onkyo's case, if you use Visa you'll have 3 years total. If you used M/C, only 2 years from the Onkyo, nothing from M/C.

joerod
07-19-05, 12:06 PM
TMSKILZ, I use the HDMI ins on the TX 1000 with an HD TIVO (actualy goes thru an ISCAN HD+ first), and with the SP1000. I also trade out the SP1000 sometimes for when I want to watch a DTHEATER (jvc hm 5u) DVHS tape via HDMI. I have no problems whatsoever. I wish my PJ did have two HDMI inputs so you are lucky in that regard. I would send the dvd player directly to the display and send the rest thru your TX1000. I like a direct shot, if possible, when watching a movie from a dvd player. Less chance for sync issues and for now we have to remember that it is a 480i format. Even though we can upconvert it to 720p or 1080i the less connections the better the picture.

TMSKILZ
07-19-05, 12:07 PM
I have the Integra Research but they (Onkyo, Integra) should all work the same. I have no problems with using HDMI as video switching for my DirecTV box and DVD player. There is a audio delay feature that should eliminate any lip sync issue.

In reading your post, it looks like you only have two video sources that would need switching: the Samsung DVD player via HDMI and the XBOX via component. I don't believe the Onkyo can video switch the signals as one uses HDMI while the other component. Thus your best bet is to connect them both directly to your HDTV until you have other components that require video switching.

By the way, there is a new "review" from AudioRevolution (http://www.avrev.com/equip/integradtr10_5/index.html) on the Integra DTR-10.5 receiver. It's the twin to the Onkyo NR1000.

Hey thanks for the response & assistance. So i'll go with HDMI from DVD player to HDTV & component from Xbox to HDTV & HDMI from HDTV to Onkyo TXNR1000, sounds correct right?

Psylocke
07-19-05, 07:25 PM
Is nobody else willing to help me with my decision?

I already feel like I am cheating on Pioneer Elite by thinking about switching.

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

TMSKILZ
07-19-05, 08:05 PM
Psylocke go ahead & make the switch to the Onkyo TXNR1000!

joerod
07-19-05, 08:11 PM
I really enjoy my TX 1000 as does my family with its "no brainer" switching. The sound is great for movies, and very great for music. You should atleast audition the TX 1000. Then atleast you won't wonder all the time what if...

Psylocke
07-19-05, 11:20 PM
I have already demo'd the unit with a set of B&W towers and bookshelf rears. First off the unit sounded weird so after checking the speaker settings nothing was set correctly (all large no crossover point for the seb etc...)

With a quick set of adjustments I found the sound very clean powerful and pleasing. But it still lacked a full 360 degree soundfield that I am getting right now. But that is probably because of Klipsch Ultra2 speakers (makes the B&W sound like bose junk).

The only thing that bothered me was if I shut off the DVD player the 10.5 made a clicking nosie (relay sound). Is this normal?

Also will I miss the MCACC setup mic feature?

I also could not find the bass peak level setting that all THX receivers are suppose to have. It is not shown in the manual either. Is it not a feature with the 10.5?

I spoke with Integra and they said the wiggly banna posts are in the process of being replaced with teh WBT posts used in the RDA-7.1 amp. They have been getting alot of complaints about the loose terminals (althought they do not affect sound according to them). He also told me their would be a software upgrade for Dolby Digital ++ and DTS pro when they are released. He stated the Audysee setup mic card is still in talks and it is not known if a upgrade card will be released.

TMSKILZ
07-20-05, 12:24 AM
I really enjoy my TX 1000 as does my family with its "no brainer" switching. The sound is great for movies, and very great for music. You should atleast audition the TX 1000. Then atleast you won't wonder all the time what if...

Joe since you've had this Abrams Tanks for a while & seem very knowledgable about the TXNR1000, tell me what cable/connection you would recommend for my setup.

Here's my equipment:

TV: Samsung 5688 1080p 2 HDMI
Receiver: Onkyo TXNR1000
DVD: Samsung HD950 HDMI
Game console: XBOX with HD AV Pac, component & Fiber optic cables.

I plan to run HDMI-HDMI from Onkyo to TV, & HDMI-HDMI from DVD to TV, Components & FiberOptic from Xbox to TV. This seems correct & optmized connections?

The manual for this thing is huge & a lot of the terminology seems like trying to read eygptian to me.

Joe have you installed the latest Firmware for the Onkyo?

joerod
07-20-05, 12:45 AM
Your battleplan for your connection of cables is the most optimal. The strategic decision to go dvd to tv hdmi is a good call. I have installed the latest firmware. Outside of just a few minor changes there really is not that much different from when it was brand new in early December. Has anyone else done the newer firmware and noticed some significant changes?

DCIFRTHS
07-20-05, 01:41 AM
I spoke with Onkyo USA today about the 1.09 firmware upgrade. Onkyo has decided to pull all firmware updates from their US and overseas sites for the TX-NR1000. Apparently alot of folks in their words produced "$ 5000 aluminum bricks" because they did not follow the directions close enough to doing the updates from their computer. They then had to send the units back to Onkyo (my guess for a board or chip replacement similar to when you hose the firmware on a computer's motherboard.) They are also in the process of informing their authorized dealers to absolutely NOT provide the firmware to the end user for installation.

Their "solution" is that the end user will have to cart the 80 lb unit into a local authorized dealer or repair shop and have the firmware updated there by appointment. Considering the number of connections on the back of the unit -- it would be quite a task to disconnect it for upgrades as well as physically move it to a dealer.

I called 4 nearby authorized repair centers and NONE of them knew anything about doing firmware updates. I can't believe that Onkyo expects these "solder shops" to be more computer proficient than their end customer.

Thus when any new boards become available, they will have to be firmware updated at a shop. What a pain. Onkyo could have easily solved the problem as Gigabyte did for their motherboards by installing DUAL firmware chips in their system which provide redundancy and backup incase of a firmware update failure.

Am I reading your post correctly? When Onkyo releases new cards for this receiver, it will have to go back to an Onkyo shop, for a software update, so that the cards will work correctly?

DCIFRTHS
07-20-05, 01:50 AM
.... I spoke with Integra and they said the wiggly banna posts are in the process of being replaced with teh WBT posts used in the RDA-7.1 amp. They have been getting alot of complaints about the loose terminals (althought they do not affect sound according to them). He also told me their would be a software upgrade for Dolby Digital ++ and DTS pro when they are released. He stated the Audysee setup mic card is still in talks and it is not known if a upgrade card will be released.

I have just received the NR1000, and have yet to unpack it. I haven't heard of the "wiggly" banana posts. Do you have any additional information/posts on this? Also what are "WBT" posts?

Thanks

Psylocke
07-20-05, 05:53 PM
The wiggly posts mean that if you tug at the banna binding posts they have a bit of sway too them. They are not solid like other high quality posts on the market.

WBT are a brand of high end binding posts.

DCIFRTHS
07-20-05, 06:44 PM
The wiggly posts mean that if you tug at the banna binding posts they have a bit of sway too them. They are not solid like other high quality posts on the market.

WBT are a brand of high end binding posts.

Is this something that affects all units?

TMSKILZ
07-21-05, 02:13 AM
Your battleplan for your connection of cables is the most optimal. The strategic decision to go dvd to tv hdmi is a good call. I have installed the latest firmware. Outside of just a few minor changes there really is not that much different from when it was brand new in early December. Has anyone else done the newer firmware and noticed some significant changes?

Thanks a lot Joe, I'm very grateful. Even though I have a small living Rm space, i figure the Onkyo was worth the purchase, simply b/c of the Modular card based system it has. Eventually when I get my own place, I'll have the HTS to bring along that should be able to handle any task thrown @ it.

I can't wait for my Tv to arrive & for the XBOX360 to release.

DCIFRTHS
07-21-05, 02:55 AM
The wiggly posts mean that if you tug at the banna binding posts they have a bit of sway too them. They are not solid like other high quality posts on the market.

WBT are a brand of high end binding posts.

Maybe my searching skills have waned, but I can't find any info on this anywhere. Would someone be kind enough to provide some additional information?

Thanks

lorelevitt
07-21-05, 03:38 AM
Yes-- according to Onkyo, when new cards are released we'll have to drag the unit back in to get the firmware updated. I guess some deals might provide the firmware "under the table" but that will be strongly against the new Onkyo policy.

TMSKILZ
07-22-05, 12:18 AM
Yes-- according to Onkyo, when new cards are released we'll have to drag the unit back in to get the firmware updated. I guess some deals might provide the firmware "under the table" but that will be strongly against the new Onkyo policy.

You've got to be kidding me! That's stupid. The time & hassel it will take for an upgrade, is discouraging!

anthonymoody
07-22-05, 11:46 AM
Yeah. I think I'll take a wait and see on this. My guess is that the collective howl from Onkyo, Integra and IR owners *may* be sufficiently loud that they change their tune on this ill advised policy.

TM

joerod
07-22-05, 12:17 PM
They will have to. Their policy ruins the idea of the upgrade without hassle. Sending in your unit for a new module will be a HUGE pain in the ass. I know most will not get newer modules then. People may just to decide to sell it and get another manufacturer's newer unit with more. They had better rethink this idea...

Goobermonkey
07-22-05, 09:42 PM
This certainly does bite the biscuit! I updated my firmware once already on my receiver with no problems at all. I resent being summarily written off as being unable or not responsilble enough to update my own receiver. I'll sign a waiver if they like but I sure don't feel like disconnecting everything, lugging this sucker into my car and driving it 60 miles just to get the latest firmware or cards. Never mind having to leave it at the shop for who knows how long before the service is completed. I mean, I'm loving my receiver and I have no regrets in it's purchase, but I'm slowly starting to wonder if this whole upgradeable card cage design was just some crazy marketing stunt or if the future of this concept has just been quietly written off at Onkyo. Any information from them about future hardware upgrades has been lame at best.

joerod
07-23-05, 12:09 AM
My sentiments exactly goobermonkey! I to did my own firmware at home with no difficulty. If they expect to sell their modules, they better evaluate the procedure.

DCIFRTHS
07-23-05, 01:44 AM
My sentiments exactly goobermonkey! I to did my own firmware at home with no difficulty. If they expect to sell their modules, they better evaluate the procedure.

I'm still within the 30 day return period. I just may return it, and buy a Denon. Onkyo is starting to piss me off between the lip sync issue, and now this upgrade hassle...

lorelevitt
07-23-05, 11:26 AM
First-- I probably would have gone with a Denon as well if I'd known that Onkyo would change its policy and stop providing firmware upgrades online. I think there are real flaws in the way they designed the system for upgrade if as according to them so many end users have irreversably disabled the device when upgrading. As I wrote earlier, it would have been trivial costwise to install a dual firmware chipset as Gigabyte does on its motherboards to prevent this from happening.

That said, I've already sold my old receiver and now kind of feel "stuck" with the Onkyo. I've had one problem with the setup and I'm sure its my confusion over all the directions so I thought one of you might be able to help. I'm feeding the audio from an SDI-modded Denon 2910 into the first optical audio in on the Onkyo. The DVD player is set to output the correct signal but I'm only able to set the Onkyo on "stereo" to hear the voice track portion of the 5.1 Dolby-DVD I'm playing. When I do that, I'm only getting front output of sound and the subwoofer. When I try all the other settings on the Onkyo-- Surround, THX, etc., I lose the primary center voice channel and can only hear the music in surround.

Any suggestions/ideas on what I have set incorrectly?? I did do the speaker setup routine earlier for Channel A and set it up for 5.1 speakers.

Thanks.

Lore :confused:

TMSKILZ
07-25-05, 02:38 AM
Can anyone help out lore with is issue?

egcarter
07-25-05, 03:50 AM
OK, Lore.

First check your DVD audio setting. Is it bitstream?

Then on the receiver..
INPUT SETUP->AUDIO ASSIGN for that input. You should have OPT1 selected under DIGITAL AUDIO.

Now under INPUT SETUP->LISTENING MODE PRESET,

what choices have you selected for DOLBY DIGITAL, DTS, THX? Maybe you have selected STEREO under DOLBY DIGITAL? Make the appropriate selection. This is the most versatile receiver on the market. You can configure it until your head spins. That also puts some extra responsibility on your shoulders.

I wouldn't say you are "stuck." I sell both Denon and Integra...I have an Integra DTR-10.5 in MY theatre.

Eric

lorelevitt
07-25-05, 04:02 AM
Thanks for the suggestions. I feel pretty dumb...it turns out the + cable on my center speaker had pulled loose internally from the banana plug I put on the end -- so the center speaker wasn't getting a signal. I replaced it with a better plug and the problem was solved. Guess I should have followed the old advice that if it doesn't work-- check that its plugged in!

Lore

spider12
07-25-05, 12:41 PM
I saw an artical in Sound and Vision last month where they had an interview with Onkyo. Onkyo stated that they were planning on using the modular card design on a new sub $2000 receiever. Anyone know anything about this?

TMSKILZ
07-25-05, 06:09 PM
I saw an artical in Sound and Vision last month where they had an interview with Onkyo. Onkyo stated that they were planning on using the modular card design on a new sub $2000 receiever. Anyone know anything about this?


I have that mag & read that article. I haven't heard anything on it.

oztech
07-25-05, 06:22 PM
any word on the new hdmi card yet.

egcarter
07-25-05, 06:22 PM
FYI, it seems as if the firmware version 1.09 has been withdrawn. They have re-issued 1.08. I'll let you all know what's going on when I find out!


Eric

egcarter
07-25-05, 06:33 PM
I'm sure we'll know more at CEDIA Expo in Sept.

Eric

Razvanel
07-25-05, 08:10 PM
FYI, it seems as if the firmware version 1.09 has been withdrawn. They have re-issued 1.08. I'll let you all know what's going on when I find out!


Eric

I have 1.09 and it works perfectly...

R

egcarter
07-25-05, 10:21 PM
Raz,

So far...

As I said, it has been withdrawn. I don't know why as yet, but I'll inform you all as to why. I have 1.09 but have not flashed any receivers with it yet. I'll let you know if they recommend going back to 1.08 or not.

Eric

TMSKILZ
07-25-05, 10:53 PM
Thanks EG, please keep us inform.

joerod
07-26-05, 09:00 AM
I also have 1.09 and have not experienced any abnormalties.

egcarter
07-26-05, 09:58 PM
The firmware version 1.09 has been re-issued, so it's OK to keep for those who have already flashed it. I think it was just administrative stuff. Also, for those of you with the companion DVD player (Integra DPS-10.5/IR RDV-1.1, it doesn't mention the Onkyo SP-1000), the new firmware version 1.23 has been released.
The instructions do not indicate what updates were accomplished.


Eric

TMSKILZ
07-27-05, 12:05 AM
The firmware version 1.09 has been re-issued, so it's OK to keep for those who have already flashed it. I think it was just administrative stuff. Also, for those of you with the companion DVD player (Integra DPS-10.5/IR RDV-1.1, it doesn't mention the Onkyo SP-1000), the new firmware version 1.23 has been released.
The instructions do not indicate what updates were accomplished.


Eric

EG so what you're saying is that the new firmware is available publicly for anyone to D/L?
Where can I get this firmware & instructions on how to apply it from?
Thanks in advance

egcarter
07-27-05, 12:17 AM
Nope. The firmware is on the Integra dealer's support site. I'm a dealer so I don't pay attention to the public site. I hate to sound like a broken record...CONTACT YOUR DEALER!

Eric

Razvanel
07-27-05, 12:40 AM
CONTACT YOUR DEALER!


Eric,

My dealer is great and I myself have no problems in getting the updates. Still, there are several Onkyo/Integra/Integra Research owners whose dealers aren't as willing to help. Onkyo should have all firmware updates on the public site, could you contact Onkyo and find out why the new firmware isn't available on the public site for all owners to download?

R

DCIFRTHS
07-27-05, 04:41 AM
I don't have a local dealer that sells Onkyo. I purchased mail order but through an authorized dealer. They do not provide firmware upgrades. Any information as to how a person that has purchased from an authorized dealer that can not provide firmware updates would be greatly appreciated.

anthonymoody
07-27-05, 11:38 AM
Raz,
IIRC correctly a reason was given: that some dopes couldn't handle to firmware update and turned their equipment into doorstops. Seems to me that if this is the case we need to convince Onkyo et al not to let a few bad apples spoil it for the rest of us. Egcarter - can you put in a word?
TM

bubba_gump
07-27-05, 12:38 PM
Eric,

My dealer is great and I myself have no problems in getting the updates. Still, there are several Onkyo/Integra/Integra Research owners whose dealers aren't as willing to help. Onkyo should have all firmware updates on the public site, could you contact Onkyo and find out why the new firmware isn't available on the public site for all owners to download?

R
All the Onkyo dealers in my state :mad: SUCK :mad: . Onkyo Support is unwilling to answer simple email requests asking about firmware upgrades, so I just sold my TX-NR1000 and DV-SP1000 and moving to the Denon world where Denon support answers my emails within hours ;) and I do not even have my products yet.

:( :( :( Goodbye Onkyo :( :( :(

sky-chicken
07-27-05, 03:58 PM
is there anyone who host the firmware so we can download it ?

bkzoller
07-27-05, 04:23 PM
Raz,
IIRC correctly a reason was given: that some dopes couldn't handle to firmware update and turned their equipment into doorstops. Seems to me that if this is the case we need to convince Onkyo et al not to let a few bad apples spoil it for the rest of us. Egcarter - can you put in a word?
TM

How much does Onkyo/Integra/IR charge for replacing a firmware chip that was incorrectly upgraded? Maybe they aren't charging enough.

Also, maybe there is room for making the upgrade procedure more foolproof. What I mean is that even after a failed upgrade attempt, the unit would still allow a second attempt which would possibly be able to correct the problems from the first attempt. The procedure could potentially be more failsafe without incorporating the dual firmware chips like the motherboard design.

Brian

Will Gibbons
07-27-05, 05:35 PM
Some of the owners have posted great satisfaction with their dealers, and some helpful dealers post on this site. However, the number and availability of good dealers, in fact dealers period, appears low. Having to bring in units for firmware updates is a poor business model and will not make for happy existing customers and will turn off prospective customers. I can understand the manufacturer position when problems occur through fault of the user if indeed the fault is a user burden. These devices are essentially computers. My suggestion is that IR/Onkyo look at the model for repair used in the computer industry. The major manufacturers have contracted with local concerns to be the warranty/service repair centers. If the problem is not fixable at the local level, then the units are returned to depot to be fixed. These local concerns can also provide on-site service if the warranty is such or as an added expense billed per hour if not. Let the customers do their own firmware updates if they choose, but if the customer screws the pooch, then have the authorized service center come out and fix it for a fee. There could also be a set charge provision for the service center to actually do the firmware update from the front end if customer so chooses.

Serial connections for large updates are slow. I wonder if there is a way to implement the firewire connections for speedy firmware updates?

Regards,
Will

DCIFRTHS
07-28-05, 12:18 AM
How much does Onkyo/Integra/IR charge for replacing a firmware chip that was incorrectly upgraded? Maybe they aren't charging enough.

Also, maybe there is room for making the upgrade procedure more foolproof. What I mean is that even after a failed upgrade attempt, the unit would still allow a second attempt which would possibly be able to correct the problems from the first attempt. The procedure could potentially be more failsafe without incorporating the dual firmware chips like the motherboard design.

Brian

Maybe Onkyo could put the firmware hardware (flash memory etc.) on a card instead of buried in the chassis :cool: - well, now that I think about it, that wouldn't help because Onkyo wouldn't allow the user replace the card :D

egcarter
07-28-05, 01:31 AM
I'll ask the Onkyo/Integra/IR tech people how they plan to address these firmware upgrade issues. Yes, it was confirmed to me that there are endusers who by not following the instructions explicitly have blown the upgrades and their receivers had to be returned for service. I was told that the enduser is responsible for these problems and "they don't want to hear that."

I hardly think that it's a reason to sell your receiver and DVD player, though... Kind of a knee-jerk reaction.

Just another reason not to buy based strictly on price? I actually go to the client's home and upgrade their product.

BTW, the DVD firmware update (1.23) is also for the SP-1000...it addresses the rare iLink connectivity issue.

Eric

egcarter
07-28-05, 01:55 AM
I have word that they do plan to re-post the firmware updates on the public sites...I think they are just trying to find a way to minimize problems with people screwing up their units (which apparently have had to be totally replaced!)

Eric

anthonymoody
07-28-05, 11:16 AM
All they need to do is make you click a checkmark that says "By clicking here you agree that if you screw up the installation, shipping it in and/or paying to replace or fix it are your responsibility" before downloading and they'll be fine :D

TM

TMSKILZ
07-28-05, 11:46 AM
I have word that they do plan to re-post the firmware updates on the public sites...I think they are just trying to find a way to minimize problems with people screwing up their units (which apparently have had to be totally replaced!)

Eric

Thanks EG, that maes me feel better. Please keep us inform when they make it public again so i can upgrade the firmware on my Onkyo which I purchased during the last wk of June 2005.

anthonymoody
07-29-05, 05:12 PM
Yeah EG, forgot to say THANKS. IR communication kind of dropped off the face after whats his name left. Tough to get anything other than automaton responses from them on anything. Please do keep us posted and let them know that we reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally want to be able to do this flash updates ourselves...

Thanks!
TM

TMSKILZ
07-30-05, 10:20 PM
Guys I'm confused on how to best connect my TV & components to one another for the best results & performance using my Onkyo AVR.

I plan to get the Samsung 5688 1080p DLP HDTV, it's on pre-order, with an expected release in 2wks. I am a frequent poster over @ the "REAR PROJECTION UNITS" section in this forum.

Guys over there have suggested my setup.

I had plan to connect my HTS like this:

Samsung 950 DVD player to Onkyo AVR via HDMI.

Samsung 950 DVD to Onkyo AVR using optical cable for 5.1 AUDIO for DVD movies, CDs.

Onkyo AVR to 5688 HDTV via HDMI.

XBOX HD AV Pack component cable to Onkyo AVR for VIDEO gaming.

XBOX to Onkyo using optical cable for 5.1 AUDIO gaming. The XBOX HD AV Pack has an optical cable slot on it to connect an optical audio cable.

But they suggested I not connect the 950 DVD player to the Onkyo via HDMI, instead bypassing the Onkyo & just connecting the 950 DVD player directly to the 5688 HDTV via HDMI.

What do you guys suggest? I ask because you guys have the Onkyo for a while now & know best how to use & optimize it for your Home Theatre Experience for DVD movies, music & gaming.

Thanks in advance.

TMSKILZ
08-01-05, 05:08 PM
-bump-

bkzoller
08-01-05, 05:46 PM
The advantage of going directly from the DVD player to the display is that you would need one less HDMI cable. :p ;) Seriously though, connecting DVD -> Onkyo -> display would allow displaying SD video sources directly to the HDMI input on the display. There shouldn't be any performance degradation unless there is a compatibility problem between the HDMI ports or poorly functioning cables. You can also get conversion from SD video to 480i component using the component switching module on the Onkyo.

Disclaimer: I have the RDC-7.1 rather than the Onkyo, and I do not have the HDMI module. There could be problems using HDMI that I haven't heard about on the forum.

Brian

TMSKILZ
08-01-05, 08:29 PM
Thanks Brian for your post, but I was hoping members who own the same model as I do could help out.

Krobar
08-02-05, 05:37 PM
Did these bad apples unplug the amp or PC before it was finished? (I cant think of any other way to screw up)

If so they need to do what was introduced to Satellite recievers here in Europe a long time ago. You copy the firmware to the reciver and then it checksums it and transfer the new firmware very quickly internally if the checksum passes.

TMSKILZ
08-02-05, 07:30 PM
Did these bad apples unplug the amp or PC before it was finished? (I cant think of any other way to screw up)

If so they need to do what was introduced to Satellite recievers here in Europe a long time ago. You copy the firmware to the reciver and then it checksums it and transfer the new firmware very quickly internally if the checksum passes.

That sounds like a much better method than the one Onkyo is currently using to upgrade using firmwares.

egcarter
08-03-05, 05:48 AM
I have no info on the specifics of the failed firmware upgrades. But I was told that the WHOLE UNIT had to be replaced! That sounds much more serious than replacing an EEPROM.

I think there could also be issues if your computer goes into hibernation while the process is occuring (it takes nearly an hour).

Eric

Krobar
08-03-05, 06:28 AM
Version 1.09 made me hard reset my RDC-7.1. It would startup with I-Link error otherwise. What do other think of 1.09?

Krobar
08-03-05, 06:32 AM
TMSKilz,

Connecting the HDMI though the Onkyo has a big advantage in my opinion, you will only need to run one HDMI cable from the Onkyo to the Projector, this may be alot more convenient and neater if your projector is the otherside of the room.

egcarter
08-03-05, 02:06 PM
Krobar,

Yes, the hard reset is normal. That's the way they programmed the update.

Eric

Razvanel
08-03-05, 02:28 PM
Version 1.09 made me hard reset my RDC-7.1. It would startup with I-Link error otherwise.

Same thing happened to my RDC-7.1.

R

DCIFRTHS
08-04-05, 07:28 AM
Does anyone know how the DACs in the NR1000 compare to the DACs in the SP1000, and what model each unit uses?

Will I be able to use the HDMI out on the SP1000 to carry SACD signals to the TX1000 or do I have to use Firewire because of the earlier rev of HDMI on the receiver?

One last thing. Do the pre-outs on the TX1000 output the same processed signal as the amplified outputs (minus the amplification of course)? If so, do you know of any exceptions?

Thanks!

Krobar
08-04-05, 07:54 AM
The dacs in the Onkyo NR1000 are Wolfson, and I think the same as the SP1000.

It wont accept SACD over HDMI.

Yes the 7.1 outputs for zone A and B carry all signals in processed form with volume control applied. The outputs for stereo Zone B & C have selectable output levels, they can output constant level for an Integrated Amp or with Volume Control (For A Power amp). There are some restrictions to do with playing SACD and DVD-A across two or three zones.

If you're after the Onkyo for Preamp duties then the Integra RDC-7.1 would probably be a better choice.

PooperScooper
08-04-05, 07:59 AM
Does anyone know how the DACs in the NR1000 compare to the DACs in the SP1000, and what model each unit uses?
Don't worry about the DACs. Worry about how the unit sounds in your system. :)

larry

bkzoller
08-04-05, 11:06 AM
Will I be able to use the HDMI out on the SP1000 to carry SACD signals to the TX1000 or do I have to use Firewire because of the earlier rev of HDMI on the receiver?


The HDMI inputs on the TX1000 are not only an older spec, they were not designed to pass audio to the receiver for processing. The audio can only be passed to the display along with the video, even when it is PCM, DD or DTS. A new version of the Onkyo/Integra/IR HDMI module is expected to be have audio support, although SACD over HDMI is still an unreleased spec. Yes, you would have to use firewire, but that will pass all audio formats including SACD.

Brian

TMSKILZ
08-05-05, 10:04 PM
Can't wait to test my Onkyo AVR out soon, My 5688 1080p Samsung has been shipped & is expected to arrive @ my door by 8/12 (Fri)!

DCIFRTHS
08-06-05, 02:11 AM
Can't wait to test my Onkyo AVR out soon, My 5688 1080p Samsung has been shipped & is expected to arrive @ my door by 8/12 (Fri)!

Nice set. Good luck with it :)

I like that they finally made it appear as though they separated the screen from the base. My Sony is like that, and I think it's an awesome look.

This set has a grey segment on the color wheel, correct?

Where did you purchase from?

oztech
08-06-05, 09:18 PM
is anyone using paradigms 100v3 with their nr1000 or the integra 10.5 and happy with the sound.

egcarter
08-12-05, 12:58 AM
As for methods of doing firmware updates...an Integra dealer application document from a few months ago for the DTR-10.5 indicates that updates will be able to be performed via ethernet connection for receivers that have the CNET-A NetTune module. This hasn't happened as yet, but that should certainly speed things up. It also shows the Windows application to configure the receiver. Haven't seen that either! I'm sure that I'll have much more good info come CEDIA Expo time...

Eric

Krobar
08-12-05, 03:17 AM
The application was in final beta testing in March, maybe they've held it back. It was meant to released with the Onkyo according to the original press releases way back in early last year.

anthonymoody
08-13-05, 09:35 PM
IMO that'd be a really cool reason to have the nettune module, even if you weren't particularly interested in nettune itself.
TM

overseer
08-15-05, 03:52 AM
Hi folks, was wondering which remotes would be recommended with the nr1000. I find the factory remote somewhat cumbersome, though very complete. Seems like I have to use the OSD to switch between THX and DTS modes.I wish to find a user freindly remote I can use to program 1 button audio swithces(among other features) that I could get my wife to be able to use.

Thanks in advance,

Tom
hdtv@senetworks.com

TMSKILZ
08-16-05, 01:55 PM
Nice set. Good luck with it :)

I like that they finally made it appear as though they separated the screen from the base. My Sony is like that, and I think it's an awesome look.

This set has a grey segment on the color wheel, correct?

Where did you purchase from?

DCIF not sure about the grey segment on the color wheel.

As far as where I purchased the TV from? I got it through the TVA Power Buy.

My set didn't arrive last Fri, since it hadn't arrived @ the warehouse of the shipping Co (SEKO) that TVA uses to ship the TVs. I received a call from a Customer rep of SEKO (NYC location) & she informed me my TV was in transit, but was delayed. I now sit here today (Tues) with no TV, my guesstimate is that I should have it by no later than this upcoming Fri. It's being shipped on the ground.

I hate the wait! :mad: But what I'm most concerned with is having waitied all this time for the 5688 to finally be released & shipped & receive a defective unit.
I hope that's not the case with me. :eek:

TMSKILZ
08-16-05, 03:49 PM
Hi folks, was wondering which remotes would be recommended with the nr1000. I find the factory remote somewhat cumbersome, though very complete. Seems like I have to use the OSD to switch between THX and DTS modes.I wish to find a user freindly remote I can use to program 1 button audio swithces(among other features) that I could get my wife to be able to use.

Thanks in advance,

Tom
hdtv@senetworks.com

Hey Tom,

I personally have purchased the new Logitech Harmony 880 Universal remote. It looks very nice & from the majoirty of reviews & feedbacks I have read online, it's top notch. It retails for about $220-$240, but I got it off eBay for $190 total & it was shipped to me within 5 days from order date.

Look into it & hope it helps.

bkzoller
08-16-05, 05:11 PM
I would also recommend the URC MX-850. It is programmable with a PC, and in fact a PC is required when learning new codes from an existing remote. The remote lets you put macros on practically any button. I also considered the Harmony 880, but it wasn't available at the time I was ready to purchase.

You can download the MX-850 configuration software and start configuring the remote before you purchase one. You might be able to decide whether you not you like the software to help your decision. I also remember configuring something on the Logitech page for one of the Harmony remotes as a test of their configuration software.

Brian

overseer
08-16-05, 06:30 PM
Thanks folks,

TMS, does the Harmony Remote allow you to easily switch between the nr1000's auio modes? For example, can you prgram, say a submenu under receiver, to list the various modes like THX, DTS, NEO gaming, etc? As you know, the Onkyo remote is a bit cumbersome.

BK, does the MX 850 allow you do the same?


Many Thanks,
Tom
hdtv@senetworks.com

bkzoller
08-16-05, 06:47 PM
Yes, you can do that on the MX-850. I have a device called RDC71 which has four pages of commands in the LCD section. One page has A/V input names and a different page page has surround modes. The Page button moves to the next page. On most of the device pages, I have a button which executes a macro to select both that device's A/V input and its default surround mode.

Brian

TMSKILZ
08-18-05, 12:46 PM
Tom I haven't even used the Harmony 880 b/c I just received my Samsung 5688 DLP 1080p TV on Tues.

I will play around with it & see what it's capable of. It is also programmable through PC, for MACROS & such.

Just do a googole search on it & read up on the details.

egcarter
08-18-05, 03:14 PM
BTW,

Harmony is about to introduce a fancy new, very customizable remote for custom installers at CEDIA Expo. I just received the press release on it yesterday (no specific details though).

Eric

TMSKILZ
08-19-05, 09:54 AM
Guys I need help with connections.

I received, finally!, my 5688 1080p Samsung TV on Tues. Last night after work I tried hooking up my DVD (SamsungH950) & Onkyo TXNR1000, that went well, but then I tried connecting my XBOX, but that didn't go well.

My setup is DVD (HDMI) to TV, with Optical from DVD to ONKYO
ONKYO (HDMI) to TV
I am trying to connect my XBOX to ONKYO using the XBOX HD AV Component Cables. I tried the "Component Video" slots in the back of the ONKYO but it's not being recognized by my TV.
For those owners of the ONKYO who can help, where do I connect the XBOX HD Cables on the ONKYO? On the manual it states VIDEO 7 in the front panel of the ONKYO, but when I flip the little door open on the front, I only see 3 slots, one is labeled "SVIDEO" & the other 2 are "Audio L & R" but my XBOX HD Cables have 5 connectors in all. 3 (Red, Blue & Green) for Video & 2 ( White & Red) for Audio.

Help much appreciated. I prefer to connect the XBOX thru the ONKYO, unless doing it thru the TV is better? I just figure thru the ONKYO would help me avoid Video Gaming Lag & Audio Lag as well, plus Lip Sync issues.

Thanks in advance.

bkzoller
08-19-05, 11:05 AM
You have to go into the OSD setup menu to enable the component input. The easiest way to get the OSD would be to connect video output 4 or S-video output 4 to the TV. Then choose the input you want to use for the XBOX, such as Video 7. Select Input Setup and then Video Assign. You will need to turn off composite and S-video and select component 1, 2 or 3, depending on which of those inputs you want to use for the XBOX. The component inputs and outputs are the red, green and blue connectors on the video module at the back of the unit. You also need to hook up component cables from the outputs on the Onkyo to the inputs on the TV. The component-to-HDMI transcoding apparently won't work for HD component sources.

Brian

egcarter
08-19-05, 12:16 PM
Brian,

Your info is incorrect! I use HD component input sources all the time and it is transcoded to HDMI just peachy (at the same resolution). Under the HDMI line in the Video Assign menu, you must choose VIDEO. This will convert the assign video input to the HDMI output. The OSD goes over the HDMI connection as well. No need for jumping through these hoops!



Eric

bkzoller
08-19-05, 12:22 PM
Ok, so it just won't change resolutions. That's good to know. I think the component input still needs to be assigned in the OSD so it knows which one to use.

Brian

TMSKILZ
08-19-05, 10:10 PM
Eric & Brian thanks for responding.

So Eric, I should connect the 3 (Red, Blue & Red) connectors to "VIDEO 1 IN" on the back? & then connect the 2 (Red & White) connectors to "AUDIO in" on the back?

The XBOX HD Component cable pack has a Optical slot on it to connect an Optical Cable for surround sound, does this affect where I connect the 2 (Red & White) connectors for Audio on the Onkyo?

Sorry, but I tried reading the Onkyo manual but it's like reading ALIEN langauge & doesn't speak much on connecting GAMING devices, for both VIDEO & AUDIO.

NOTE that my Onkyo is connected to my HDTV via HDMI.

TMSKILZ
08-20-05, 02:59 AM
Ok this is annoying.

I was playing all night with the Onkyo, my HDTV & XBOX trying to get it to work.

I got the OSD to display on my TV. What I have done is connected the XBOX HD Component cables ( 3 red, blue, green "VIDEO" & 2 red, white "AUDIO") to the back on the Onkyo under the "COMPONENT 1 IN" I did as you guys advised, I went into OSD, went into INPUT ASSIGN then went into VIDEO, there I went down to HDMI & set it to VIDEO, but I wasn't getting a display, so I had to go back into VIDEO & on top of the HDMI there is the COMPONENT had to set that to RCA1-4, in my case since I have the Component cables connected to COMPONENT 1 on the back of the ONKYO I selected RCA 1, this allowed the XBOX to display on my HDTV, but there lies the problem.

After finally figuring out how to get the XBOX to work on my HDTV through the ONKYO, the color is all messed up & the PQ as well.

The image/color on my games all comeout high green almost like a lemon lime yellow.

It's not my PICTURE Mode settings, as I tried everyone, the PQ/COLOR is fine on my TV sources but when I switch over to HDMI for XBOX the PQ/COLOR is bad.

I don't know what to do. I guess if I am not able to figure this issue out, I'll be forced to just connect the XBOX directly to my HDTV. This is frustrating, can anyone help. Any suggestions/advise be very helpful.

Again I have the Onkyo connected via HDMI to my HDTV, and have the XBOX via HD Component cables connected to the Onkyo.

I disconnected the Samsung H950 DVD player as I am exchanging it for the Panasonic S77 DVD player.

egcarter
08-20-05, 03:07 AM
TMSKILZ...

Hmmm... I have an XBOX connected via the very same HD kit to my Integra DTR-10.5 using Component and optical audio. It looks and sounds great. Have you tried connecting any other HDMI source to the Onkyo to insure that it looks OK? Check all of your cables to insure that they are in the correct socket and secure. (On both ends!)


Eric

TMSKILZ
08-20-05, 03:40 AM
Eric only connections I have is Onkyo to HDTV via HDMI & XBOX via HD Components to Onkyo.

The 3 Video connectors (red, blue, green) are connected to the "Component VIDEO1 IN" Green "Y", Blue "Pb", Red "Pr", which is labled the letter [ I ] on the back on the ONKYO.

The 2 AUDIO connectors (red, white) are connected to "AUDIO IN" Red "L", White "L" labled letter [ G ]

HDMI is connected on the ONKYO in "HDMI OUT" to the HDTV on"HDMI 2 IN."

My Samsung 5688 1080p has 2 HDMI slots.

DAlba
08-20-05, 11:17 AM
Try switching the output resolution on the x-box around

TMSKILZ
08-20-05, 05:20 PM
Try switching the output resolution on the x-box around

Hi Alba, thanks for responding.

What do you mean by this? I already went into the XBOX SETTINGS & enabled HDTV & also Enabled all 3 of the HDTV Resolutions 480p, 720p, & 1080i. I did this once I had connected the XBOX HD Components cables. All 3 resolutions are enabled.

The color that seems to come out a high yellowish/Lemon yellow color.

TMSKILZ
08-20-05, 08:09 PM
UPDATE:

I tried connecting my DVD via HDMI to my ONKYO & playing the DVD movies in this setup, the picture quality/color is not good, it's similar to that when using the XBOX through the ONKYO Video Component IN setup.

WTF is going on here? Is my ONKYO the problem? ONKYO doesn't even have a Tech Assistant toll free # to call for help, this sucks!

I feel like having a tech come out to collaborate my TV & HTS. Any recommeneded companies in the NYC area? Would need someone well verse with the ONKYO TXNR1000.

bkzoller
08-20-05, 10:11 PM
Is the HDMI cable between the Onkyo and the TV firmly attached to the HDMI socket at both ends? It kind of sounds like the image is lacking any blue, or the blue part of the image is subdued. Do you have an extra HDMI cable to replace the one connected to the TV? The problem could be with the cable, the Onkyo HDMI module or with the TV. As a test, you could connect the HDMI output of the DVD player directly to the TV to see if there is any difference in the picture. If that looks normal, you could at least rule out a problem with the TV.

Brian

egcarter
08-20-05, 10:26 PM
Also check your component cable connections!! I just looked at my XBOX thru my DTR-10.5 and everything was bluish. I grabbed the XBox to look at the rear and as I rotated it, the picture turned just fine. Those pesky component cables (particularly with the XBOX HD kit) don't always hold firmly.

Eric

TMSKILZ
08-21-05, 01:41 AM
Hi Brian & Eric.

Thanks for your help. OK, I tested the XBOX components HD cables by directly connecting it to my HDTV, it works fine, PQ & Colors are fine.

I already connected & tested my Samsung 950 DVD player before it worked just fine when connected to the HDTV directly via HDMI.

I doubled checked to make sure the connectors /cables were all firmly connected.

It seems that the problem lies with either the HDMI Cable I have running from the ONKYO to my HDTV or the ONKYO itself.

I will try a different HDMI cable later 2day & hope it's just the cable.

Pray for me guys that the cause of the problem is only the HDMI cable.

Eric does ONKYO have a Tech Support #? My guess is they don't since it's not posted anywhere on the ONKYO manual or the website.

egcarter
08-21-05, 02:23 AM
TMSKilz,

For Onkyo, Integra and IR tech support, call 1-800-229-1687. They are also open weekends from 10AM - 4PM ET.

They are in NJ...

Eric

TMSKILZ
08-21-05, 02:38 AM
TMSKilz,

For Onkyo, Integra and IR tech support, call 1-800-229-1687. They are also open weekends from 10AM - 4PM ET.

They are in NJ...

Eric

Thanks so much Eric, really appreciate it friend. I'll give them a buzz Mon. I'll test the HDMI Cable later today, but sadly I have a feeling the issue lies with the ONKYO receiver. :(

TMSKILZ
08-23-05, 10:52 AM
Well I ordered some higher end HDMI cables this week, going to test them on my Onkyo & DVD player. Going to setup everything the way I 1st did to see if I still get the color/image issue.

:(

TMSKILZ
08-23-05, 11:58 AM
Well here's an update. I called ONKYO tech support (800) # & explained my problem to the tech person. She put me on hold & came back & told me that it sounds like a problem with the HDMI Card on the ONKYO.

She gave me the # & address to a local service center in my area to take it & get serviced. I am waiting for a friend to come pick me up so I can take it there 2day. I hope this issue gets resolved.

:(

bkzoller
08-23-05, 12:04 PM
Did you also call Onkyo tech support? It seems strange that Samsung would direct callers to an Onkyo service center. I hope you get the problem resolved, also.

Brian

amb7247
08-23-05, 01:04 PM
to much for me. lol. I'll wait a year when prices go down.

egcarter
08-23-05, 03:50 PM
Let it be known that there are many HDMI issues between various components. I have seen it quite a few times. I recall installing a Denon DVD2910 with an Integra DTR-10.5 and everything had a green cast. Fortunately Denon had issued a firmware upgrade for the DVD player that fixed the problem. I have a Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR that also gives weird color problems with the same model receiver. As soon as the cable company here does a firmware upgrade that will bring our boxes in line with the latest firmware updates from SA, they have said those issues will be resolved.

HDMI has opened up a can of worms in addition to being a Good Thing. Apparently the HDMI specs are subject to more interpretation than we might like.


Eric

TMSKILZ
08-23-05, 06:45 PM
Did you also call Onkyo tech support? It seems strange that Samsung would direct callers to an Onkyo service center. I hope you get the problem resolved, also.

Brian

LOL, sorry Brian, I did a typo, I meant ONKYO Tech, not Samsung. I went back & corected my previous post.



Let it be known that there are many HDMI issues between various components. I have seen it quite a few times. I recall installing a Denon DVD2910 with an Integra DTR-10.5 and everything had a green cast. Fortunately Denon had issued a firmware upgrade for the DVD player that fixed the problem. I have a Scientific Atlanta 8300HD DVR that also gives weird color problems with the same model receiver. As soon as the cable company here does a firmware upgrade that will bring our boxes in line with the latest firmware updates from SA, they have said those issues will be resolved.

HDMI has opened up a can of worms in addition to being a Good Thing. Apparently the HDMI specs are subject to more interpretation than we might like.

Eric, the ONKYO Tech said it might be the HDMI card on the ONKYO.

I got back shortly from taking the ONKYO to the local service center that the ONKYO Tech told me to go in my local area.

I explained the issue to the person behind the counter, he said it was probably my TV, but I explaied to him that I tested that theory out by connecting both the DVD & XBOX directly to the TV bypassing the ONKYO & the color issue went away, so it's not my TV.

The people over there weren't very good in their customer service skills. I was told it will take 2 weeks, that's a long time darn it! OH well, what can I do.

:mad: :rolleyes: :(

TMSKILZ
08-23-05, 06:49 PM
BTW guys, HDMI v1.2 is here, here's the link.
http://www.hdmi.org/press/pr/pr_20050823.asp

anthonymoody
08-23-05, 07:19 PM
egcarter,
I too have had numerous issues with my SA8300HD DVR box and HDMI, in this case an Integra Research 7.1 (which works swimmingly via HDMI with my Pio 59avi DVD player...) Such a PITA. It got so bad with my 8300 that I now use component and have the 7.1 output it as HDMI. Yeesh.

TM

TMSKILZ
08-24-05, 11:56 AM
Anthony speaking of the SA8300HD Box, I am getting DTV + the HD package tomorrow, I had plan to run it using HDMI connection, but since I took my ONKYO TXNR1000 to the service center yesterday & have to wait 2 weeks, I'll just connect the SA8300 directly to the TV using HDMI.

I hope they figure out & fix the problem I was having with the ONKYO. Don't want to feel like I wasted $3,000+ for nothing.

anthonymoody
08-25-05, 10:21 AM
Yeah the whole HDMI thing has gotten to be quite a PITA in certain respects. Can't wait until 5 years from now when it's all sorted out! :D

TM

TMSKILZ
08-25-05, 10:26 AM
Damn Anthony,

The Cable guy came by 2 hrs ago, setup the SA8300HD. We 1st tried using a HDMI connection from the SA8300HD to my Samsung 5688 1080p TV, but my 5688 1080p Samsung TV wasn't recognizing it. We tried HDMI1 & HDMI2, neither worked. Eventually we just connected it using the basic component cables that came with the SA8300HD.

Is there a major difference between the component & HDMI connection using the SA8300HD?

egcarter
08-25-05, 03:27 PM
Hmmm, problems with two different HDMI sources on your new Sammy TV? Maybe the problem isn't in the Onkyo HDMI card...

The only thing that worked properly is another Samsung product?


Eric

oztech
08-25-05, 09:00 PM
i am using the 8300 with hdmi on the pan 42px50u no problems incountered yet picture looks great using monster cable i know but when all your other cables are monster its hard to break the trend besides they are exposed and look good.

DCIFRTHS
08-25-05, 10:58 PM
Hmmm, problems with two different HDMI sources on your new Sammy TV? Maybe the problem isn't in the Onkyo HDMI card...

The only thing that worked properly is another Samsung product?


Eric

I have to agree with the comment above. Additionally, I am using the 8300HD with the HDMI out to a DVI in (Sony RPTV).

TMSKILZ
08-26-05, 01:01 AM
The Samsung 950 DVD player didn't work properly ( color problem with images) using the HDMI connection through the ONKYO.

The XBOX didn't work properly (color problem with game images) connected to the ONKYO using the XBOX HiDef component cables.

Both the XBOX & Samsung 950 DVD player, however worked (still work as I am playing Splinter Cell) connected through HDMI & XBOX HiDef Component cables to the 5688 1080 TV!

Yesterday I tried connecting the SA8300HD cable box to the Samsung using HDMI connctions, but the 5688 wasn't picking it up or recognizing it.

I ordered the Panasonic S77 1080i HDMI DVD player to replace the Samsung 950, it should arrive soon, I'll try testing it using HDMI to the Samsung to test.

anthonymoody
08-26-05, 09:15 AM
The SA8300HD (with Passport at least) is notoriously bad at proper HDCP handshaking over HDMI, whether ultimately via HDMI or DVI into the display.

I've had two other HDMI sources work perfectly with my gear (an IR pre/pro and a JVC projector): a Pio DVD player (which I still have) and a Denon DVD player (which I no longer have).

I'm not saying that TMSKILZ doesn't have other issues in his set up, but the 8300 is just plain bad wrt HDMI and HDCP handshaking.

TM

TMSKILZ
08-26-05, 10:51 PM
I hope to straighten out the HDMI issue with the SA8300HD soon.

Man I miss my ONKYO, waiting 2 weeks for service is going to be hard.

TMSKILZ
08-29-05, 02:16 AM
Anyone here who's owned the TXNR1000 for a while had any issues or had to have it serviced? Just curious.

What is the latest firmware version for the TXNR1000? Figure I ask so that way I can ask the people who are servicing my ONKYO to update it if it doesn't have the latest firmware.

wsc3
08-29-05, 07:47 PM
One very bummed out Onkyo owner! My receiver (TX-NR1000) after being hooked up for a week, went t**s up on Saturday. While it lasted it was quite good. I would advise you to use NetTunes as it is quite good. Nearly flawless. Right now I have hate and anger issues so I wont elaborate but I will be quite angry if I have to wait a month or two to get this replaced or repaired. I know a friend who had an Onkyo receiver many years ago and regretted his purchase after the first close encounter with Onkyo warranty service. I hope I dont end up regretting this decision!
-=WSC3=-

DCIFRTHS
08-29-05, 08:43 PM
One very bummed out Onkyo owner! My receiver (TX-NR1000) after being hooked up for a week, went t**s up on Saturday. While it lasted it was quite good. I would advise you to use NetTunes as it is quite good. Nearly flawless. Right now I have hate and anger issues so I wont elaborate but I will be quite angry if I have to wait a month or two to get this replaced or repaired. I know a friend who had an Onkyo receiver many years ago and regretted his purchase after the first close encounter with Onkyo warranty service. I hope I dont end up regretting this decision!
-=WSC3=-

Sorry to hear it died on you. What went wrong with it?

wsc3
08-30-05, 09:46 AM
I was using NetTune server and it went dead. No sound what so ever. When I did not get any sound from the radio, I knew I had an issue. I shut it down and came back after a few hours and I noticed a hot spot over the receiver. The receiver was cool except for one area. I am hoping it is not a serious issue. I did not notice that it was a hot device in my limited experience as it worked perfectly well. I am dropping it off tomorrow at the local service center. I might need a spinal fusion after I move this sucker as this thing is quite heavy!

DCIFRTHS
08-30-05, 12:43 PM
I was using NetTune server and it went dead. No sound what so ever. When I did not get any sound from the radio, I knew I had an issue. I shut it down and came back after a few hours and I noticed a hot spot over the receiver. The receiver was cool except for one area. I am hoping it is not a serious issue. I did not notice that it was a hot device in my limited experience as it worked perfectly well. I am dropping it off tomorrow at the local service center. I might need a spinal fusion after I move this sucker as this thing is quite heavy!

It is very heavy, and the akward shape makes it hard to carry. Are you going to transport it in the original box?

wsc3
08-30-05, 01:15 PM
I do have access to a fork lift, which would be the best choice! I am actually lifting it out and wrapping it in a moving blanket and placing in the trunk of my car. The repair shop is not that far away. I don't have the original box as it was tossed. The original box is as large as my garage.

TMSKILZ
08-30-05, 01:51 PM
What's the latest firmware version for the ONKYO? Thanks.

egcarter
08-30-05, 02:25 PM
Latest firmware is 1.09.

Eric

TMSKILZ
08-30-05, 09:01 PM
Thanks Eric.

wsc3
09-01-05, 09:46 AM
The horror continues....
I called around the Connecticut area for Onkyo authorized dealers who would take my wounded TX-NR1000. I got a hold of the most local repair center after four phone calls and two voice mails that went unanswered. I called them twice and arranged to drop off my sick unit. The technician sounded friendly enough and I was looking forward to getting this process started. It was not a big drive from my home but a long drive from work.
When I got to the store front, it was closed. I called the cell phone number that was on the store front window and spoke to what sounded like an "owner". The cell phone connection was not the best but he stated his Onkyo technician was not available for another three weeks.
Needless to say, my anger issues surfaced again. Like they say in the program, anger leads to bad choices; bad choices lead to bad consequences. Thank god for therapy and Wellbutrin.
I don’t yell over the phone as it is never good form. Besides I realize there are many sides to stories and I am not too good at verbally venting anyway.
So, I got home and called Onkyo Customer Support. They were great and directed me to another store. They offered to pick up and deliver the unit but, I would like it to go to a local service center. I feel that if it gets into the Onkyo system, it will disappear never to be seen again.
So, I called the other repair center arranged a drop off this afternoon.
I remain hopeful but guarded.

wsc3
09-01-05, 11:17 PM
Well the sick TX-NR1000 will sit in Norwalk CT. till it is transferred to Litchfield, CT. a week from today. It appears some killer thunderstorms caused an "equipment storm" at the local repair center. The shop in Litchfield takes his overflow. I will reply when I get more news.

TMSKILZ
09-02-05, 07:33 PM
My ONKYO is still in the shop, will call them next week to see what the status is.

TMSKILZ
09-10-05, 11:03 PM
WSC3 what's the latest with your sick Onkyo AVR?

Mine still in the shop, will call this upcoming Mon or Tues to find out the status as it is already 2 weeks gone by, the guy told me 2 weeks when I dropped it off.

Carlton Bale
09-11-05, 08:40 PM
I was wondering if it is possible to display volume status on the screen for HD component and HDMI sources? As I understand it, it is not possible, but may be with a firmware upgrade?

oztech
09-11-05, 10:26 PM
I was wondering if it is possible to display volume status on the screen for HD component and HDMI sources? As I understand it, it is not possible, but may be with a firmware upgrade?
i would love it if we can get these to do that as its not that convenient to switch back to s-video from hdmi or component.

Carlton Bale
09-12-05, 09:40 AM
Found out that because there is no video processor onbaord (only a Silicon Image deinterlacer), that it will not be able to do overlays on HD signals. I've been looking at the Onkyo/Integra/Integra Research for a long time now, but I may go with something else with a built-in video processor for this reason.

Krobar
09-12-05, 09:51 AM
Someone correct me if im wrong but if you combined any of the Onkyo/Integra Recievers or PrePro with the Integra Research RDV-1.1 then you should get your HD Overlays.

Carlton Bale
09-12-05, 11:08 AM
Someone correct me if im wrong but if you combined any of the Onkyo/Integra Recievers or PrePro with the Integra Research RDV-1.1 then you should get your HD Overlays.

In the Integra demo room at CEDIA, they only showed DVD overlays, not receiver overlays. They were using the RDV-1.1. I think this would only work if the receiver communicated overlays back the to RDV-1.1 and let it update the screen, which I don't think it can do.



BTW, at the CEDIA Integra booth, I asked about new cards and the only thing they knew of was XM late this year or early next year. I asked about a new HDMI card, and they said "not that we know of." So it won't happen any time soon, I guess. There was no Onkyo display. Hopefully Eric has more/different info.

Krobar
09-12-05, 11:12 AM
The OSD is sent from the amp via I-Link and then displayed from the Onkyo or Integra DVD-Player, Im sure someone in the forum will confirm if it works or not.

The RDV-1.1 supports this feature and has inputs for other sources to use its internal deinterlacing and scaling, it can transcode to HDMI/DVI so I see no reason why it cant add the I-Link OSD from an Onkyo reciever as well.

Thanks for the Cedia info, I have a contact name somewhere , he generally knows whats going on with Integra. If I can dig up the name, maybe you could ask him?

Here in Europe about 6 months ago Onkyo told the press that a 4way HDMI module and DAB radio module were expected at the end of this year.

anthonymoody
09-12-05, 12:43 PM
krobar,
Hopefully the lack in info at CEDIA is more a case of the left and right hands not communicating rather than a reflection of actual developments. And/or they may be using CES to really announce things here.
TM

bkzoller
09-12-05, 01:45 PM
Here in Europe about 6 months ago Onkyo told the press that a 4way HDMI module and DAB radio module were expected at the end of this year.

That would have been before the HDMI 1.2 announcement by several months. The timetable for the HDMI module could have changed as a result of those developments. It would be nice to have some details about future modules even if they won't be shipping until next year.

Brian

Krobar
09-12-05, 01:54 PM
Carlton,

See if you can find Eric Harper at the Integra stand, he generally knows whats going on.

egcarter
09-12-05, 01:59 PM
The word about new cards (specifically new HDMI card) is that it won't happen until 2006...largely because of the HDMI spec still evolving and they have/are establishing methodlogy to get more out of the card real estate that's available (i.e. fitting more stuff on a card).

They are also exploring a re-thinking of Net-Tune, due to the issues involved with Imerge and the current implementation (relying on Imerge to add stations to the list, stations changing their codecs overnight to unsupported formats, rendering them unusable, etc).

The replacement for the 901/8.4 model won't be for about a year. It will likely be a mid-Reference-level receiver with lots of bells and whistles...possibly at least partially card-based design.

Eric

anthonymoody
09-12-05, 05:08 PM
They should dump the Net Tune card and just have a slot to slide your iPod in :D

TM

bkzoller
09-12-05, 05:24 PM
They should dump the Net Tune card and just have a slot to slide your iPod in :D

TM

Cool, a docking cradle on the back of my stereo equipment! Maybe they could also let you hook up the iPod directly using a firewire cable. ;) :D

I think the reason there won't be a digital connection between the iPod and/or iTunes to a module on the Onkyo is because Apple won't allow other companies to license their DRM. Maybe Onkyo could emulate the other standalone media server boxes in their next version of Net Tune.

Brian

egcarter
09-13-05, 02:57 AM
They already have an iPod dock for $99 at Onkyo.

Eric

DCIFRTHS
09-13-05, 03:29 AM
The word about new cards (specifically new HDMI card) is that it won't happen until 2006...largely because of the HDMI spec still evolving and they have/are establishing methodlogy to get more out of the card real estate that's available (i.e. fitting more stuff on a card).

Is this a reference to more than two HDMI inputs? If not, can you explain in ore detail?

They are also exploring a re-thinking of Net-Tune, due to the issues involved with Imerge and the current implementation (relying on Imerge to add stations to the list, stations changing their codecs overnight to unsupported formats, rendering them unusable, etc).

Do you know if this would require a new card for existing users, or a flash update?

Also, any word on making firmware available to end users again?

Thanks!

bkzoller
09-13-05, 12:28 PM
They already have an iPod dock for $99 at Onkyo.

Eric

Yes, and it has RCA analog audio outputs and a minijack for remote control. It doesn't have digital outputs, because of DRM issues most likely.

Brian

TMSKILZ
09-13-05, 12:28 PM
Well I just called up the service center where I dropped my Onkyo AVR off @, & was told a tech would contact me back since it's being repaired. It appears the issue I was having was legit & not due to my components or bad cables.

I was wondering if I should just have it replaced entirely for a new one instead of it being repaired? Is it too late for getting a replacement, since the current one is being repaired?

DCIFRTHS
09-16-05, 10:05 PM
Does anyone know what bandwidth is required to pass 1080i through the component conections? How about 1080p?

Razvanel
09-17-05, 03:13 AM
If anyone's interested, there's a used NR1000 on Audiogon for $2400.

R

TMSKILZ
09-19-05, 12:40 PM
Hmm, thanks for the heads up Raz, I already own a NEW NR1000, but sure someone who's in the market for one, would be interested.

TMSKILZ
09-19-05, 03:33 PM
I'm pissed off right now man!!!!

I just got off the phone with a tech from the service center where I dropped my ONKYO AVR off back on Aug 23, & he told me they are not sure what the problem is with the AVR, that they think they have an idea of the issue, but are not 100% sure.

I decided to call up ONKYO's HQ & spoke with a customer rep, she wasn't helpful @ all, so I called back & spoke with a different rep, she was more paitent & helpful & told me I needed to speak with a Don Phillips, she transferred me over to his voice mail since he was already gone for the day.

My issue is that I was getting a lemon yellow tint color on my picture, when trying to use my DVD player or XBOX console when it was connected directly through the ONKYO AVR. I didn't have that issue when I connect the DVD or XBOX directly to the TV, bypassing the ONKYO.
I asked the ONKYO reps if I could just pull the ONKYO from the service center & have ONKYO send me a replacement unit. It's ridiculous that it will have taken a month & the service center techs still don't know what the exact problem is. Had I known it would take this long, i would just have demanded a replacement unit from the get go.
The ONKYO reps told me it comes down to a judgement call that only Don Phillips can make. I'm pissed, I don't exactly call that customer service.

I have a feeling this is going to be a problem. :(

wsc3
09-19-05, 06:52 PM
Nothing yet. I will be callig at the end of the week.

DCIFRTHS
09-19-05, 08:36 PM
I'm pissed off right now man!!!! ......The ONKYO reps told me it comes down to a judgement call that only Don Phillips can make. I'm pissed, I don't exactly call that customer service. ....I have a feeling this is going to be a problem. :(

Keep pursuing it. From your posts, it seems that you you should have no problem effectively communicating what you want without being unprofessional. Personally, I would insist on a full refund for your purchase price so that you can buy a new unit. This way you can be sure you are getting a new one, and not a refurb.

Keep us posted.

TMSKILZ
09-20-05, 02:54 PM
Keep pursuing it. From your posts, it seems that you you should have no problem effectively communicating what you want without being unprofessional. Personally, I would insist on a full refund for your purchase price so that you can buy a new unit. This way you can be sure you are getting a new one, and not a refurb.

Keep us posted.

This is starting to border on ridiculousness.

I received a callback today about 2 hrs ago from Don Phillips over @ ONKYO's HQ. He returned my message I left yesterday. I explained to Don my issues & situation.

He told me they don't do exchanges on serviced item within the 1st yr. My jaw almost dropped. That doesn't sound right to me.

He told me he was going to contact the authorized service center where I dropped my TXNR1000 AVR @ & speak with them on the situation & contact me back with an update. I haven't heard back from him yet, but I'm getting pissed.

If I have a defective unit, I am entiled to a replacement unit under warranty. The only reason I dropped off the ONKYO @ the service center was because the tech support rep instructed me to do so when I called back on Aug 23 to inform them of the problem I was having & asking for an exchange.

This is BS!

egcarter
09-20-05, 03:05 PM
TMSKILZ,

If you have issues like this, they really should be going via your dealer for the best resolution. I know that I as an Integra dealer have had no problems getting replacements for units...they even send advance replacements.

Eric

laelg
09-20-05, 03:38 PM
Quick question regarding my injured Integra DTR 7.4 receiver. I left my LR window open one day and my receiver got wet (Dumb!). After about 4 days the audio came back. Now no video shows up through my receiver. I tried composite in/out from my xbox-->DTR--->TV. The same with S-video, and component hook ups. I tried going through the set up screens, visible from the face of the receiver, and nothing seems to work. Does anyone know if I can salvage my video output? Anyone have any ideas of what is likely wrecked etc?

Krobar
09-20-05, 06:08 PM
Maybe TMS is proof that Integra buyers do get better support through the Integra network than Onkyo. I have to admit my dealer would generally resolve things faster and was more helpful than Onkyo/Integra support.

DCIFRTHS
09-21-05, 12:17 AM
This is starting to border on ridiculousness.

I received a callback today about 2 hrs ago from Don Phillips over @ ONKYO's HQ. He returned my message I left yesterday. I explained to Don my issues & situation.

He told me they don't do exchanges on serviced item within the 1st yr. My jaw almost dropped. That doesn't sound right to me.

Did you buy from an authorized dealer?

You were in the exchange window when you brought it in for service? If so, that gives you a very strong argument. Call consumer affairs and the BBB to find out your rights.

DCIFRTHS
09-21-05, 12:19 AM
Quick question regarding my injured Integra DTR 7.4 receiver. I left my LR window open one day and my receiver got wet (Dumb!). ....

I would think, for safety, that you should bring it to an authorized repair shop. You don't want to have a fire.

TMSKILZ
09-24-05, 12:01 AM
Guys, I bought the TXNR1000 through ECOST.COM, they're an Authorized dealer.

I called them up Tues , spoke with a rep, but he told me, they only offer a 30-day warranty themselves, & I'm well passed it, since I bought this unit back in June, we're in late Sept now. he told me he would pass on my issue to his product manager, see what they could do.

I got a call from the service center, spoke with the tech who's been working on my unit. He informed me the reason they took so long was that they could not duplicate , nor find the problem I had (images coming out with a yellow lemon color tint) he asked that I come in & bring along the cables which I had used during the time I had the problem. I will be heading there Tues, I will also bring along my Xbox with HD component cables, & my DVD player & 2 HDMI cables. He said it could have been the cables I had used @ the time, b/c the unit is working 100% fine.

Going to test it out over there & see. It's not my TV, b/c I have both my DVD & XBOX connected directly to the TV via the same cables & I don't have the problem that I had when I had both connected directly to the ONKYO AVR!

The service center is authorized & it was suggested to me by the ONKYO Tech when I had called in with the problem, back on Aug 23.

egcarter
09-24-05, 12:06 AM
HDMI issues are very dependent on EVERYTHING in the chain, particularly the display!

Several months ago I hooked up an Integra DTR-10.5 with the HDMI card to a Denon 2910 DVD player on the input side and a SIM2 Domino20H via HDMI for the display. Everything from the DVD player had a green cast to it. But I then ran the HDMI out into a new Panasonic LCD display...perfect.

It turns out that Denon had a firmware upgrade for the DVD player that fixed that problem; but the point is that if it is OK with one display it may still not be OK with another.


Eric

Evanfew
09-24-05, 12:35 AM
I was just on the phone today with Integra Research tech support trying to get my HDMI module working with my Onkyo SP 1000. I've tried everything under the sun, and I just cant get it to work with my Samsung HLN DLP. The tech told me there are so many possible problems. He stated that they spent a lot of time testing the HDMI card with many different monitors and projectors to iron out any potential issues. However, I guess there are just too many different variables in the chain to test them all.

Evan

egcarter
09-24-05, 12:47 AM
Evan,

Yes, definitely, HDMI is rather messy right now. That's one of the reasons that Onkyo has delayed the introduction of a follow-on HDMI card for their card-based products. They are waiting for the chips for the newest HDMI standard to become available, and they have also found ways to reduce the real estate that the circuitry requires; thus enabling them to fit more functionality on a card. We won't see the new card until 2006.

Eric

DCIFRTHS
09-24-05, 01:28 AM
Evan,

Yes, definitely, HDMI is rather messy right now. That's one of the reasons that Onkyo has delayed the introduction of a follow-on HDMI card for their card-based products. They are waiting for the chips for the newest HDMI standard to become available, and they have also found ways to reduce the real estate that the circuitry requires; thus enabling them to fit more functionality on a card. We won't see the new card until 2006.

Eric


What additional functionality? More ports?

oztech
09-24-05, 12:12 PM
i bet they will skip the 1.1 and bring a 1.2 card out that would make sense for 2006 release.

egcarter
09-24-05, 03:19 PM
I think the new card will have more ports and be HDMI 1.2 compliant. They could do 1.1 quite easily, as their DVD players have been HDMI 1.1 from the beginning and the new receivers with HDMI are 1.1 compliant as well.

Eric

TMSKILZ
09-29-05, 12:01 PM
Hey people.

Here's the latest update. I went this past Tues to the service center to pick up my Onkyo TXNR1000(s) from the service. The techs there had ask me to bring in my DVD/XBOX & HDMI cables that I had used before when I was encountering the color problem.

They ran a few test with my equipment & cables & the problem didn't show up, until they played around a bit with the XBOX HD component cables. They test the Blue, Green & then RED connectors. The RED when moved slightly would bring up the problem (lemon yellow tint color) the guy opened up the RED cable connector & discovered it was partialy worn, they fixed it & tried connecting it up again. Problem was solved, well sort of.

I explained that I had the same issue when using the HDMI cable that came with my DVD player in the box. They mentioned the cable was probably damaged as well or picking up interferance from other components near by.

Overall they said the ONKYO itself is fine. I will try connecting the DVD player up & running a few movies.

This is a relief, investing $3,0o0 is no joke on a AVR.

TMSKILZ
10-03-05, 11:16 PM
Plugged my XBOX up to the ONKYO via the XBOX HD Component cables, it works fine. Have yet to try out the DVD player.

Wish me good fortune. :)

DCIFRTHS
10-04-05, 01:41 AM
Plugged my XBOX up to the ONKYO via the XBOX HD Component cables, it works fine. Have yet to try out the DVD player.

Wish me good fortune. :)

Good news. Glad to hear it :)

DCIFRTHS
10-04-05, 01:43 AM
I think the new card will have more ports and be HDMI 1.2 compliant. They could do 1.1 quite easily, as their DVD players have been HDMI 1.1 from the beginning and the new receivers with HDMI are 1.1 compliant as well.

Eric

Keeping my fingers crossed :)

DCIFRTHS
10-04-05, 01:46 AM
Plugged my XBOX up to the ONKYO via the XBOX HD Component cables, it works fine. Have yet to try out the DVD player.

Wish me good fortune. :)

You may have already posted this, but I can't find it. What service center did you bring it to?

wsc3
10-07-05, 07:48 AM
It's back and per the technician, there was nothing wrong. Considering it was installed by a reputable service I found this difficult to believe. Since I could not wait to schedule an appointment, I put it in myself and all appears to be well. Including the digital out from the computer. I still have to hook up the OSD so that I will takcle this evening. The folks at the Norwalk, CT repair center were great. I just wish that I did not have to look like an idiot dropping off a $3K+ receiver that was in operating order. Oh well, live and learn.
-=Bill=-

oztech
10-07-05, 08:25 PM
all i want for christmas is a new hdmi card anyone at onkyo listening

Krobar
10-07-05, 08:50 PM
LOL

A DAB card, Sat Radio, New HDMI, Abandoned concept anyone?

anthonymoody
10-10-05, 10:50 AM
I don't think the 4x1 HDMI is abandoned. I think they're waiting for the dust to settle a bit more. My bet is a 4x1 HDMI 1.2 (or 1.3) card will be announced at CES in January, shipping shortly thereafter. No inside info here.

TM

MUGGY10
10-10-05, 02:25 PM
We are expecting a DAB module pre-Xmas and HDMI by Summer2006 here in Europe :) Keep the faith ;)

egcarter
10-10-05, 03:00 PM
I was informed point-blank at CEDIA Expo that for HDMI they are waiting for the standards issues to be resolved (i.e. chips available for the newer HDMI standards). They have apparently already figured out how to fit more stuff on one of the cards, too. The new HDMI card won't happen until sometime in 2006, probably around CEDIA time.

Eric

TMSKILZ
10-11-05, 03:42 PM
You may have already posted this, but I can't find it. What service center did you bring it to?

It's called "ADVISORY TV & RADIO LABS." The one i went to was located in Sunnyside Queens. they have 2 other locations throughout NYC.

Here's a link to their site.
http://www.advisorytv.com/locations.htm

egcarter
10-11-05, 04:28 PM
I used Advisory many years ago...lived around the corner from them in Manhattan.

Eric

TMSKILZ
10-13-05, 02:14 AM
I used Advisory many years ago...lived around the corner from them in Manhattan.

Eric

Yeah, aside from the Queens location, they also have 2 in Manhattan.

menexxus
10-13-05, 10:55 PM
:mad: I WANT MY HDMI 1.3 MODULE!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

TMSKILZ
10-14-05, 12:21 AM
:mad: I WANT MY HDMI 1.3 MODULE!!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

Mene why the rush for HDMI 1.3? What's the benefits to it over the current HDMI standard?

Krobar
10-14-05, 03:42 AM
TMS,

I think most people want HDMI 1.3 for the convenience but because the Onkyo already has I-Link I have to admit its pretty pointless until a good selection of HDMI 1.3 Sources are available especially since the same thing can be accomplished with I-Link and HDMI1.1/DVI.

I'm more interested about new radio modules and the mention of Onkyo working out how to get more on one card (Hence giving more room for upgrades).

DCIFRTHS
10-14-05, 04:36 AM
TMS,

.... I'm more interested about new radio modules and the mention of Onkyo working out how to get more on one card (Hence giving more room for upgrades).

Interesting. I didn't take it as though Onkyo was going to put more than one function on a card. For example, one card incorporating radio and HDMI. I thought it was more along the lines of additional HDMI ports on a card.

joerod
10-14-05, 08:01 AM
Yes, we need the 4/1 HDMI module yesterday! I have three sources that use HDMI now and I expect another one (HD DVD player) eventually. It would be nice to not have to switch them when you decide to watch a certain source. What is their hold up? Even Denon's 4806 comes with 3/1 with a DVI.

egcarter
10-14-05, 05:43 PM
joerod,

They want to support the newer HDMI standards...gotta wait. Silicon isn't ready yet.

HDMI is moving too fast. Do you want a 4 x 1 HDMI 1.0 (or 1.1) card...then to have to replace the SKU in a few months with an HDMI 1.2 card? (maybe even 1.3...but that's probably 18 months away).

They have also been working on better component integration. They have worked out fitting more stuff on one card. Besides, as we have discovered, HDMI is no panacea. There are quite a few compatibility issues between HDMI-enabled components. Those issues have induced them to take a more prudent schedule with this stuff.


Eric

bkzoller
10-14-05, 06:05 PM
Besides, as we have discovered, HDMI is no panacea. There are quite a few compatibility issues between HDMI-enabled components. Those issues have induced them to take a more prudent schedule with this stuff.

Eric

Let's all hope for better compatibility for the upcoming HDMI module with various source components and displays. I don't mind the wait as long as they get this one right.

Brian

TMSKILZ
10-14-05, 07:01 PM
Bkz I 2nd that notion. Compatibility is key.

Guys, I've had the Onkyo TXNR1000 since June I believe, but haven't been using & testing it out until late Aug when my Samsung 5688 1080p HDTV finally arrived. So far I sort of figured out how to work the video to be able to play my XBOX. I assume it's the same exact process when using my HDMI DVD player (Panasonic S77), but as far as the audio goes, I'm lost.

I will be trying to set up a 5.1 Ch. surround sound. Reading the manual hasn't proven to be too fruitful for me. Wish they'd used less tech terminology for complete no0bs like myself to better understand & learn to work the features on this beast of a AVR.

Anyone here own the same model (TXNR1000) & willing to give me a tutorial over the phone? PM me if interested, I'd be so grateful.

By the way guys, i'll be attending the Digital Life event here in NYC tomorrow (Sat) after work. My main reason for going is to get my hands on the new XBOX360, but also check out the latest gadgets out there. You can't miss me, I'll be the tall lite skinned guy with glasses in all black with adark blue hat ( yellow C on the front) if anyone here attends & recognizes me, feel free to say hi.
Any gadgets in particular you guys like me to search & tryout for yall?

peace!

anthonymoody
10-15-05, 11:38 AM
FWIW too it would appear that HDMI version issues are at least partially a cause of the delay in the big Anthem D1->D2 upgrade. Even though they keep talking about the scaler being the source of the delay, I'm pretty sure Anthem wants v1.2 in there...

TM

TMSKILZ
10-18-05, 01:13 AM
Anyone know of a site with a tutorial either in text or video link on how to use the TXNR1000 & it's features?

This manual isn't helping.

bkzoller
10-19-05, 11:58 AM
Anyone know of a site with a tutorial either in text or video link on how to use the TXNR1000 & it's features?

This manual isn't helping.

TMSKILZ, check your PM. I sent you some setup tips.

Brian

CMSTech
10-24-05, 05:35 PM
Hey All,

I have had the NR1000 for about over 3 weeks now and I LOVE it.

I have 1 question I wanted to post to see what other users' experience with it has been?

In my house I have a server room, I have the equipment for my theater in a cabinet that is through the wall into the theater. Meaning the back of the cabinet is in the server room and the front is in the theater. This is so the components, wiring, noise and heat are all in the server room and the equipment is easily accessible in the theater. I have glass doors over the front of the equipment rack part of the cabinet so it is a clean look from the outside. I have left the back and top of the cabinet (which is in the server room) completely open. The server room has dedicated heating and cooling to keep the humidity level and temp where I want it.

So far this has worked out great! Yesterday I had an issue I believe was due to overheating and thought it was kinda strange.

I have the receiver on the bottom shelf of the cabinet (with it weighing 80 pounds where else would I put it) which is about 4 feet off of the floor. Yesterday the receiver started acting really funny (it wouldn't turn on when the power button was pressed, it would turn itself off while I was watching a DVD, at one point all of the lights and display were black on the front however the a DVD was playing just fine with HDMI switching). I used it less then 8 hours yesterday. I really have never used it that long in one sitting since I got it.

After tinkering for a min I put my hand in the center of the top of the receiver and it was quite warm. So warm in fact that after 3-4 secs I had to remove my hand because the heat started to get painful.

I am really confused why it would overheat in my situation. The receiver has about 3 inches on either side of it and about 3-4 inches on top before the next shelf (I left some extra space on top to allow for cooling).

The server room was about 70 degrees and the theater was about 74.

After I discovered the top was so hot, I unplugged power to the receiver and went to bed. This morning I woke up and (of course) it was stone cold so I plugged it in and fired it right up. Everything came up as expected.

So I have been thinking of a solution to use 2 PC Case or Server CPU cooling fans and mount them to the front of the shelf above it so they blow over the receiver pushing the hot air into the server room, this would be hooked up through the AC outlet on the receiver itself so they would run when the receiver is on. With the increased air flow, the heat shouldn't be a problem, or at least I hope not.

But before I begin on a fix, I wanted to know if anyone else's ran hot like mine.

Thoughts?

Thanks
Jason

APS
10-25-05, 01:30 AM
........if it's getting that hot your 'server room' must be getting much hotter than 70 degrees.........you say you have cooling for that room, just turn the temp way down and see if that helps.....i would try and get more air space around that unit too, 3-4 inches doesn't sound like enough......i had an Onkyo tx-ds939...the grand-dad to what you have...it ran very hot, but had it's own forced air cooling. I kept mine on the top of an open rack for 8 years....never a problem. Does the 1000 have it's own cooling fan?.....is it kicking in? I bet it has no fan....my Integra Research 7.1 runs failry warm too, but she's on the top of another open rack. Something definitely doesn't sound right if it's getting so hot you have to lift your hand after 3 seconds. Isn't some sort of thermal warning indicator supposed to come on display if it runs too hot....i thought my 939 had something like that.
I would also put a thermometer next to it on rack when it up and running....see what the actual ambient is at it's rack position. I would get the room temp down rather than just try to forced air one rack position.

CMSTech
10-25-05, 10:01 AM
........if it's getting that hot your 'server room' must be getting much hotter than 70 degrees.........you say you have cooling for that room, just turn the temp way down and see if that helps.....i would try and get more air space around that unit too, 3-4 inches doesn't sound like enough......i had an Onkyo tx-ds939...the grand-dad to what you have...it ran very hot, but had it's own forced air cooling. I kept mine on the top of an open rack for 8 years....never a problem. Does the 1000 have it's own cooling fan?.....is it kicking in? I bet it has no fan....my Integra Research 7.1 runs failry warm too, but she's on the top of another open rack. Something definitely doesn't sound right if it's getting so hot you have to lift your hand after 3 seconds. Isn't some sort of thermal warning indicator supposed to come on display if it runs too hot....i thought my 939 had something like that.
I would also put a thermometer next to it on rack when it up and running....see what the actual ambient is at it's rack position. I would get the room temp down rather than just try to forced air one rack position.

Thanks for the reply!

The ambient temp of the server room was 70, I have a thermometer hanging in the middle of the 12'X12'(w/9' Ceiling) room. I don't think the 1000 has a cooling fan, I don't understand why it wouldn't it is pretty much a PC and every other PC I know has a fan...

I saw no sign of a thermal warning, I just guessed it was the heat due to the temp of the receiver. I started to think a fan that circulates air around the room might be a good choice instead of something directly over the receiver.

The temp around the receiver was over 70-74 easily so I am thinking that if the temp was 70 in the room a lack of air flow is probly my problem. Raising the shelf up another couple of inches and creating more of a whole room air circulating system might solve the problem.

It is something to try.

APS
10-25-05, 11:42 AM
......i think the new generation of onkyo receivers are passively cooled.....now that i've looked at pictures of the backplane, i see no fan duct....no room anyways with card-slot design. I would imagine the top is almost all vent space, and i beleive the side walls act as a heat sink for much of the preamp section...the side walls are corrugated like my Integra Pre, & act as cooling fins. I can't imagine it getting 'failure hot' in a 70 degree room......maybe it's developed a problem. Try running it out of rack completely and monitor temp. Dunno what to tell you otherwise......in my 70 degree room
my Integra Pre runs about 78-80 right on surface @ vents.....my Bryston amp idles @ about 85.....perceptible warmth, nothing more. The tightest rack space i have is 6 inches.

DCIFRTHS
10-25-05, 04:34 PM
......i think the new generation of onkyo receivers are passively cooled.....

I don't know how accurate the information is, but on Crutchfield's (http://www.crutchfield.com/S-WDqMIczpueg/cgi-bin/ProdView.asp?g=10420&id=detailed_info&i=580TXNR1K) site, this is listed...

Fan Cooling: The receiver is fan cooled for reliable operation at high output levels. Fan operation is temperature dependent, so fan cooling only takes place after the receiver reaches a certain temperature level.

APS
10-25-05, 07:21 PM
....well it's definitely possible.....my 939 had a fan exhausting out the back...........maybe the 1000 has
exhaust through the top baffle.......a fan failure might explain how it could get so hot to the touch, possibly...

CMSTech
10-26-05, 09:30 AM
....well it's definitely possible.....my 939 had a fan exhausting out the back...........maybe the 1000 has
exhaust through the top baffle.......a fan failure might explain how it could get so hot to the touch, possibly...

Yea, I am going to have to look into it, last night I had it on for about 3 hours and after I turned it off I was sitting about 10 feet away and heard the "click" from it turning on and all the lights on all the source buttons on the bottom row had the green light on like had zone 2 or 3 on. The standby light was still on and pushing the power button caused a single "click" noise but nothing else happened. All the other buttons on the front didn't respond at all.

It was pretty hot again. And last night I had left the front doors to the cabinet open so heat could escape out of the front and back...guess that wasn't enough.

I ended up unplugging it again so it would cool down. I am going to try to move the shelf above it up about 4 inches to give it more air space.

joerod
10-26-05, 09:39 AM
That would have been my next suggestion. I have left atleast 5 inches of space above my TX1000. It just needs more space for the air circulation. Also, I would check the speaker connections and make sure they are all in place they way they need to be. Sometimes that will trigger the unit to shut down as well. Keep us posted!

trekker
10-26-05, 11:25 PM
CMSTech,

Since you haven't had your Onkyo very long, I was thinking may be when you initially installed it, may be a strand of speaker wire is partially shorting?

Years ago when I had an older Onkyo 919, I had accidentally burned out a crossover in one of my front speakers which caused my Onkyo to overheat after playing a while. I didn't realize the speaker crossover was damage, as I couldn't notice any big sound difference in the speaker. I thought it was my Onkyo, so I had my dealer send it back for warranty. Of course it came back with no trouble found.

Anyway, just a thought.

Good luck on solving your problem.

Arnold

CMSTech
10-27-05, 10:23 AM
CMSTech,

Since you haven't had your Onkyo very long, I was thinking may be when you initially installed it, may be a strand of speaker wire is partially shorting?

Years ago when I had an older Onkyo 919, I had accidentally burned out a crossover in one of my front speakers which caused my Onkyo to overheat after playing a while. I didn't realize the speaker crossover was damage, as I couldn't notice any big sound difference in the speaker. I thought it was my Onkyo, so I had my dealer send it back for warranty. Of course it came back with no trouble found.

Anyway, just a thought.

Good luck on solving your problem.

Arnold


My Onkyo dealer actually installed it for me so I haven't checked the speaker wiring for it yet.

Although I am going to have some time tonight to play with it and move the shelves around so I will see what happens.

Thanks for the tip!

Jason

menexxus
11-06-05, 11:16 AM
Maybe someone here can help me.....I am having a problem with inet radio....when i try to get stations it tries to connect, but then it says not tuned. How do I tune it? It only worked once since I got this receiver and since has not tuned in? Also, how do I connect the mserver....I recently got another hard drive and put all my music folders in it...it is encrypted and when i unencrypt it it no longer connects to mserver....could it be because I removed it from the c: drive? And if so how can I make it so that nettune recognizes that it is in another drive...thx in advance!

PS When I start the nettune central launcher...it always asks me to build a database...i dont recall this after my intial setup....could this have something to with it? My problem seems to be that the launcher is not recognizing the receiver...Normally in the launcher display I have a PC Icon and a receiver icon....but now I have only the PC icon but no receiver icon...Please Help..... :mad:

menexxus
11-06-05, 06:48 PM
Maybe someone here can help me.....I am having a problem with inet radio....when i try to get stations it tries to connect, but then it says not tuned. How do I tune it? It only worked once since I got this receiver and since has not tuned in? Also, how do I connect the mserver....I recently got another hard drive and put all my music folders in it...it is encrypted and when i unencrypt it it no longer connects to mserver....could it be because I removed it from the c: drive? And if so how can I make it so that nettune recognizes that it is in another drive...thx in advance!

PS When I start the nettune central launcher...it always asks me to build a database...i dont recall this after my intial setup....could this have something to with it? My problem seems to be that the launcher is not recognizing the receiver...Normally in the launcher display I have a PC Icon and a receiver icon....but now I have only the PC icon but no receiver icon...Please Help..... :mad:

Anyone?????

egcarter
11-07-05, 03:26 PM
menexxus,

You will generally have problems with internet radio stations for one or more of the following reasons:

1. Station is currently down
2. Station has no more available connections (there is a limit!)
3. Station has changed the URL
4. Station has changed to codec to an incompatible one
5. Network issues (general net problems, configuration boo-boos, etc)

Did you re-add all of the music folders to Net-Tune Central after the change? I think it might need to re-index everything.


Eric

CMSTech
11-21-05, 02:23 PM
My Onkyo dealer actually installed it for me so I haven't checked the speaker wiring for it yet.

Although I am going to have some time tonight to play with it and move the shelves around so I will see what happens.

Thanks for the tip!

Jason

UPDATE: OK, so it has been a few weeks since the fix, but I thought I would post the outcome.

After speaking to my dealer a couple of times about the issue, he contacted Onkyo and they decided to completely replace the unit with another one.

So the dealer brought a brand new one out to my house and completely switched it out for me.

I also had the dealer call Oynko back to find out what the max operating temp of the unit *should* be....

Oynko informed the dealer that the over heat safety limit is about 140 degrees F. Since mine was going funky at about 100, they knew something was wrong.

So after they switched out my unit, I haven't had any problems with the unit. This one gets to about 88 degrees where the other one would get 100+ in the same space.

So obviously it was an issue with the unit. Now we know!

APS
11-21-05, 04:35 PM
UPDATE: OK, so it has been a few weeks since the fix, but I thought I would post the outcome.

After speaking to my dealer a couple of times about the issue, he contacted Onkyo and they decided to completely replace the unit with another one.

So the dealer brought a brand new one out to my house and completely switched it out for me.

I also had the dealer call Oynko back to find out what the max operating temp of the unit *should* be....

Oynko informed the dealer that the over heat safety limit is about 140 degrees F. Since mine was going funky at about 100, they knew something was wrong.

So after they switched out my unit, I haven't had any problems with the unit. This one gets to about 88 degrees where the other one would get 100+ in the same space.

So obviously it was an issue with the unit. Now we know!

...good deal then, thx for the followup.

trekker
11-21-05, 04:51 PM
I can't believe that Costco is selling the TX NR1000 (http://www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=11069186&whse=&topnav=&browse=) :eek: