I guess its out, yes the Feb 20th release is very nice, I hope they tackle a alot of the smaller issues now that the bigger ones are out of the way :)

*pokes Gary* Get cracking and update the first post.Heh! Yes, it's high time! Small hitch though - in a few hours, I'll be off on vacation for a week on the Florida coast! Nevertheless, I'm sure I'll find an internet connection at the resort, and from there, I'll forward the update to Paul.

Gary

I'm going to update it!

(back on the internet after a few weeks of *bad* phone/DSL problems)

Paul

I'm sure there is a list here of what the new firmware fixes/changes but i can't find it. Can someone please point me to it?

Updated mine, got some new options in the menu.

Set everything back, so what does this update fix or improve on? :)

I'm sure there is a list here of what the new firmware fixes/changes but i can't find it. Can someone please point me to it?

http://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h_firmware_0220_release_note.html

Steve.

Finally, a working firmware for people using the white remote. :)

Isn't this going to make matters worse? The sound is going to take an extra half second to reach you 555 feet away. :(
Did I get the sign wrong again? I remember in first term college physics, half the class (including me) worked the equations on the exams, and didn't even realize that the sign was wrong and that we were predicting that rocks would fall up a mountain!

I'm glad the new firmware is out. Oppo really is doing a great job with this product, all jokes aside.

Updated mine, got some new options in the menu.

Set everything back, so what does this update fix or improve on? :)


What are the new menu options?

Rick

What are the new menu options?

Rick
Couldn't see many. Maybe something on DIVX, which I don't use, and the audio-delay, which--it turns out--I can't use (or use usefully).

The menus look pretty much the same.

Dave

Thanks Mike and Dixie. OPPO Digital really deserves the praise, though...

I took some measurements with an oscilloscope and made an interesting discovery about the source of the variable A/V sync. When I reported my findings, they reacted immediately. They escalated it and resolved it with lightning speed. They kept me posted with their progress and measurements every step of the way.

The firmware release may have been delayed a little longer because of it, but the payoff is fantastic. Well done to the management and the engineers involved!

Never in my life, have I come across a company with dedication or customer service like OPPO Digital!

Gary


Well done, Gary. You should be very pleased with yourself. As should everyone at OPPO! But, in empirical terms, what is the difference with the new audio/video sync?

Dave

Just installed latest fw and have a problem.

Watching REM video "Bad Day" recorded off VH1. At the bottom of the vid there is a "ticker tape" running. This should run smoothly. With new fw it now judders for a while and then goes back to normal and then judders again. Tested disc on £25 Tosh and it is fine. Reinstalled previous fw and OK. Same problem persists be it on NTSC or PAL HDMI or Component.

Similar problems on other vids. Background action seems to go into slow mo and then picks up.

DVD recorded on Sony machine (PAL, HQ+).

Any one else experienced this? Any thoughts?

Very very disappointed.

If you are a believer of burn in effect of electronic equipments like me then you may find that after 100 hours of used of this OPPO I have experience none lip sync effect at all. I did have occasional lip sync problem when the player was smacking new. Hope this can help anyone.

Very very disappointed.

Don't be disappointed, be proactive! :)

I would suggest sending the details of your findings to service@oppodigital.com, so the bug you discovered can be addressed promptly with another f/w tweak.

"Final" firmware arrived only last Friday, and internal testing has been going on since then. Release has not been made because of a falt in the de-interlacing of several movies. OPPO is spending the day ensuring that these interlacing errors were isolated instances.

0220 doesn't appear to "play well" with my Panny plasma.

Regrettably, I've chosen to revert back to 1224b, as the 0220 firmware induces a quite pronounced "jumpiness" or judder(?) in both 720p and 1080i modes.
(Would this type of behaviour be an interlacing error?)
Nor did it reconcile the downward shift/offset issue while viewing 16:9 anamorphic PAL discs.

I reloaded the 0220 fw twice, after reverting back to 1224b and subjected the same passages to scrutiny, just to be sure....

The 0220 firmware did, however, appear to offer improvements relative to the audio/video synch issue.
(functioned very well at the default delay of 50ms, as opposed to 100ms delay using 1224)

As Panny plasmas are a huge seller worldwide, it seems that it might be time well spent if Oppo to were to examine some of these "brand-specific" anomolies(esp. since Oppo has indicated they have a 42PX50U available for study).

Certainly the FW represents an improvement in some ways for some users; as such, thanks and congratulations are due to Oppo and the respected forum members who assisted in the development. Seems to be "getting there"...

Peter

Perfect in PAL with Benq7700. 50Hz works.

oppo service is great¡¡¡

Oh the new menu options that I got were in the video settings which added CSS and another thing beneath it (part of noise reduc), I didnt have these with the firmware that the player came with (Just got it 2 days ago from amazon free shipping with the black remote and 2 included cables).

I have no problems with lip-sync or jumpiness/judder on my sony kdfe42a10

I really like this player.. for $199, awesome

0220 doesn't appear to play well with my Panny plasma.

Regrettably, I've chosen to revert back to 1224b, as the 0220 firmware induces a quite pronounced "jumpiness" or judder(?) in both 720p and 1080i modes.
(Would this type of behaviour be an interlacing error?)
Nor did it reconcile the downward shift/offset issue while viewing 16:9 anamorphic PAL discs.

I reloaded the 0220 fw twice, after reverting back to 1224b and subjected the same passages to scrutiny, just to be sure....

The 0220 firmware did, however, appear to offer improvements relative to the audio/video synch issue.
(functioned very well at the default delay of 50ms, as opposed to 100ms delay using 1224)

As Panny plasmas are a huge seller worldwide, it seems that it might be time well spent if Oppo to were to examine some of these "brand-specific" anomolies(esp. since Oppo has indicated they have a 42PX50U available for study).

Certainly the FW represents an improvement in some ways for some users; as such, thanks and congratulations are due to Oppo and the respected forum members who assisted in the development. Seems to be "getting there"...

Peter

After installing the new firmware did you remember to reset the menu to Video 2 mode? I had a friend upgrade to the new firmware after I recommended it, and he then complained about the jerkiness (using a couple PAL discs) until I reminded him to make sure to reset to video 2. He is now happy.

After installing the new firmware did you remember to reset the menu to Video 2 mode? I had a friend upgrade to the new firmware after I recommended it, and he then complained about the jerkiness (using a couple PAL discs) until I reminded him to make sure to reset to video 2. He is now happy.

Thanks for the suggestion. Certainly a very valid observation.

Yes, as I do watch some PAL titles, I make it a point to use Video 2.
Aside from the downward shift, the PAL discs I looked at seemed free of this "jumpiness", though my examination was admittedly only cursory and targeted specifically at the downward image shift issue.

The culprit for this behaviour was the very first NTSC disc I played in it's entirety.
("R-Point", released by Tartan Asia Extreme, generally known for decent quality mastering/presentation)
Reverting back to 1224b eliminated the behaviour mentioned above.

Peter

0220 doesn't appear to play well with my Panny plasma.

I have a panny LCD and have similar problems with the 0220 fw.

Just installed latest fw and have a problem.

Watching REM video "Bad Day" recorded off VH1. At the bottom of the vid there is a "ticker tape" running. This should run smoothly. With new fw it now judders for a while and then goes back to normal and then judders again. Tested disc on £25 Tosh and it is fine. Reinstalled previous fw and OK. Same problem persists be it on NTSC or PAL HDMI or Component.

Similar problems on other vids. Background action seems to go into slow mo and then picks up.

DVD recorded on Sony machine (PAL, HQ+).

Any one else experienced this? Any thoughts?

Very very disappointed.

Yah, same problems here on my Sony 34HS420 set, watching a rented copy of Tuck Everlasting (NTSC). I dropped Oppo a line to let them know... I'm am confident they will take care of it.

Pete 'n Pea,

There were interlacing errors in Domino, which is why the firmware was not released until Friday. I found the error, but because I could not replicate it in other titles, and nor did OPPO, the firmware was released. As such, I am not surprised there are some interlacing errors on some discs, since I personally experienced one of them.

Because the error was reported on Tuesday, and a small clip was extracted and sent to the engineers, a fix will be imminent if something is actually discovered in the new firmware (likely). However, this fix will potentially break the two major fixes (PAL and Audio syncronization).

Additional, on my friends Panasonic plasma (US) we could not resolve PAL at all when using the 0220 firmware. However, the previous firmware revisions allowed for PAL support. However, several users in PAL related forums reported working PAL support.

There is only so much testing before you can declare a failure or success. Sometimes, you have to hedge your bets. If you are going to make an omlette, you will have to break a few eggs.

For the most part, I believe these errors will be very few and far between (as the shifting error in the 1111B firmware did not effect all users).

may be 0220 less sharper than 1111b? (only a bit)

I notice that on my benq7700.

Pete 'n Pea,

There were interlacing errors in Domino, which is why the firmware was not released until Friday. I found the error, but because I could not replicate it in other titles, and nor did OPPO, the firmware was released. As such, I am not surprised there are some interlacing errors on some discs, since I personally experienced one of them.

Because the error was reported on Tuesday, and a small clip was extracted and sent to the engineers, a fix will be imminent if something is actually discovered in the new firmware (likely). However, this fix will potentially break the two major fixes (PAL and Audio syncronization).

Additional, on my friends Panasonic plasma (US) we could not resolve PAL at all when using the 0220 firmware. However, the previous firmware revisions allowed for PAL support. However, several users in PAL related forums reported working PAL support.

There is only so much testing before you can declare a failure or success. Sometimes, you have to hedge your bets. If you are going to make an omlette, you will have to break a few eggs.

For the most part, I believe these errors will be very few and far between (as the shifting error in the 1111B firmware did not effect all users).

Thank you for the insights,
I am content to revert to 1224, as it offers a generally superb viewing experience and interfaces well with the Panny.
Peter

Just downloaded 0220 from the Oppo's site.
The playback is jerky, on the very first video I put in. Rewinding few seconds back fixes it. Tried both Video 1 and Video 2 modes.
Hope they will address it.

Feature request (would be possible for the beta testers to submit it to Oppo, please?):

Filename scroll - too slow, can it be made faster?
While playing mp3, the skip button should skip to the next track (hacked version has it) and page skip should be done with right and left arrows (optional, if possible).
Browser - make 1 big window with scrolling (hacked version has it minus scrolling) or make an option to switch between the browser modes.
Bug fix: while playing mp3s it should display an actual folder name on the top but not garbage (hacked version has this bug fixed).

In mp3, Goto button should behave in the same way as in video mode. That I've seen on some others Mediatek players.

In general, this f/w has a great potential but I will probably get to back to hacked 1022.

Feature request (would be possible for the beta testers to submit it to Oppo, please?):

You can also submit it yourself. OPPO will listen, but doesn't necessarily act upon then:

File scrolling speed is something I have requested to be faster. It hasn't been done.

MP3 playback for skipping (as so you do not have to keep your screen on and hit select) has also been requested. Engineers have not changed it because it would mean that they would have to change the way the Explorer works (and in the past they have been very reluctant to change the Explorer)

A browser change falls into the Explorer change and the engineers reluctance.

Some file structures will still trigger garbled folder names.

GoTo also does not work with DivX files as it does with the XviD/DVDs.

Or you can always hack it yourself ;)

Just downloaded 0220 from the Oppo's site.
The playback is jerky, on the very first video I put in. Rewinding few seconds back fixes it. Tried both Video 1 and Video 2 modes.
Hope they will address it.


In general, this f/w has a great potential but I will probably get to back to hacked 1022.

I am using the OPPO with a Tosh. 65hx93 RP-CRT. Also experienced the jerkiness in the video, it actually smoothed out after few minutes, but would staart again whenver I paused or even fast forwared. Jerkiness for few minutes, then smooths out.

I'll be reverting back to an earlier firmware as well.

I've email oppo support with my info.

Rick

i have not noticed any of the jerkiness or ny problems at all on my hitachi 57s500 crt....

I have my Oppo connected to a Optoma H31 via the supplied Oppo DVI cable, and while upconverting to 720p or 1080i the projector will flicker between having signal and no signal occasionally and there is noise on the picture, its most noticable while there is a dark image on the screen.

I just wanted to know if there is something that I am doing wrong. I've tried using the noise reduction on the dvd player and no luck, the projector works fine with HD through the cable box, is the cable that Oppo supplies just garbage and should I buy a better quality?

Please help, just about unbearable to watch a dvd with all the noise showing on the screen. :(

pmontone,

Try another cable if you have one available, or try another DVI or HDMI based display device to determine if the signal being generated by the OPDV971H are being properly transmitted.

GoTo also does not work with XviD files as it does with the DivX/DVDs.

Or you can always hack it yourself ;)

What do you mean it does not? I have an XVID disk with bunch of music videos on it. I have no problems using goto to select a track or do a time search.

I would not want to hack it myself because it requires deeper knowledge of assembly than I do.

I don't understand why they don't want to change the browser when it has already been done. Having it the way it is, in my opinion, is a waste of screen space.

Garbled folder names are not so garbled in the hacked firmware.

I understand they have other priorities but those small things are the ones that can make a number of users like myself extremely happy :-)

Trance Dog,

Meant DivX. Damn palindromes.

Why the engineers have been reluctant is anyone's guess.

I have my Oppo connected to a Optoma H31 via the supplied Oppo DVI cable, and while upconverting to 720p or 1080i the projector will flicker between having signal and no signal occasionally and there is noise on the picture, its most noticable while there is a dark image on the screen.

I just wanted to know if there is something that I am doing wrong. I've tried using the noise reduction on the dvd player and no luck, the projector works fine with HD through the cable box, is the cable that Oppo supplies just garbage and should I buy a better quality?

Please help, just about unbearable to watch a dvd with all the noise showing on the screen. :(

Have you done anything to calibrate your Oppo with your display? Run brightness and contrast calibrations with Avia, DVE, or THX if you haven't already. What kind of noise are you seeing? Could it be film grain from the movie? Could it be dithering from DLP (calibrating brightness should help this).

timing for 720p50 and 1080i50 has finally been fixed for 220 (I got a small credit in the release notes for that one...).

Great beta release, BTW, I'm getting fantastic results with it.

I am using the OPPO with a Tosh. 65hx93 RP-CRT. Also experienced the jerkiness in the video, it actually smoothed out after few minutes, but would staart again whenver I paused or even fast forwared. Jerkiness for few minutes, then smooths out.

I'll be reverting back to an earlier firmware as well.

I've email oppo support with my info.

Rick

There's enough chatter on this now to suggest a problem. I loaded the 0220 fw yesterday morining and noticed the panning judder on Wallace and Gromit(the photos at the beginning), the first NTSC disc I had played. But the judder was inconsistent and I couldn't replicate it this morning. PAL discs seem fine so far...have oppo sorted the PAL problem only to let an NTSC gremlin in? Also, I played a couple of episodes of Firefly (PAL) afterwards and didn't notice anything untoward.

I'm going to stick with the 0220 for a while and see what happens.

Dave

As some of you may already know that Oppo was not really compatible with any Loewe LCD or some other brands. Now, with this new firmware, has anyone tried out with their Loewe LCDs and found problems resolved?

Hmm... I play a couple movies with the new firmware (Matrix Revolutions, Bourne Identity & Supremacy, A man apart, Big Fish, Troy) and I dont have any chatter/judder/jerkiness but just now I tried a PAL disc and it has it really bad......

So NTSC is working fine for me (so far) and this PAL dvd has really bad judder, whats this video1 and video2 thing? I'm a 720p btw..

, whats this video1 and video2 thing? I'm a 720p btw..

Go to General set up pages: Video Mode. Open drawer, change to either Video 1, Component or DVI, or Video 2 DVI only?

I updated to the new firmware and noticed that the audio delay was defaulted to 5. I've never had any issues with lip sync so I set it to zero. I honestly don't remember what it was. It was defaulted before the update and I've had no problems.

There's enough chatter on this now to suggest a problem. I loaded the 0220 fw yesterday morining and noticed the panning judder on Wallace and Gromit(the photos at the beginning), the first NTSC disc I had played. But the judder was inconsistent and I couldn't replicate it this morning. PAL discs seem fine so far...have oppo sorted the PAL problem only to let an NTSC gremlin in? Also, I played a couple of episodes of Firefly (PAL) afterwards and didn't notice anything untoward.

I'm going to stick with the 0220 for a while and see what happens.


Dave


I would have stuck with it too, but every DVD I tried, commercial and recorded had the jerky motion (about 5 DVD's I think I tried). I reloaded 1022 FW last nite.

But that's ok. I have to admit, I've been chomping at the bit for this release, (mainly because I was hoping to see some improvemnts in the 1080i signal that some beta testers reported.) but I can wait until they resolve this issue.

Rick

I popped in Star Wars Episode III last night and saw the "jerky" motion. When the "A long time ago, galaxy far away" intro came up, the letters were sort of jumping. Then when the movie starts I saw the jerky motion. I'm using a PIoneer Elite CRT based HDTV. I put the disc in my Panasonic RP82 and it had no issues. Has someone let Oppo know about this? I really love this player and for me it will be just about perfect if they can fix this.

Just installed the 0220 fw and the problem I had with my Pana plasma (TH-50PHD8EK) not showing an image in 720p/1080i with PAL disks is gone. With Video mode set to 2 and TV type set to auto I'm now able to play PAL and NTSC DVDs at the correct 50/60Hz and at all resolutions supported by the Oppo. If anything pic quality is even better than before, especially at 720p and 1080i.
So far I haven't noticed the problems with jerky motion mentioned here. I will try SW EP3 (R1,NTSC) to see if I can duplicate the problem on my display.
Anyway I think Oppo deserves high praise for the continuing support and fast reaction to customer feedback.

I've noticed some "jerkiness" on the "It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" animated menu. Will investigate some other discs.

Paul

I am using the OPPO with a Tosh. 65hx93 RP-CRT. Also experienced the jerkiness in the video, it actually smoothed out after few minutes, but would staart again whenver I paused or even fast forwared. Jerkiness for few minutes, then smooths out.

I'll be reverting back to an earlier firmware as well.

I've email oppo support with my info.

Rick
I've experienced the same slight jerkiness (which smooths out after a bit).

I've reverted to the previous firmware. The "judder" is gone.

-Terry

My display has 720 native res. Now with the new firmware, it appears the 1080i setting is very close to the quality I saw with 720. This is only looking at the logo screen. Have not watched a movie yet.
With previous software, the difference was much more apparent. Interesting. Of course, does not mean the 720p setting is 'better' than before. More to come.

For what it's worth after reading some comments regarding the "jerkiness" in the new FW I tried a few discs. Seeing as there were comments about SW EPIII, I tried EPII. I found the scrolling credits to be fine on EPII but the opening "A long time ago in a Galaxy..." displayed the "jerkiness" everyone's been talking about. I then tried EPIII and also saw the effect in the opening ("A long time ago...") and the pan down to the planet during the opening action sequence. This was never present for me with the 1022 or 1111 FW. I have also had a problem with the opening on the WHV version of Cronenberg's "Dead Ringers." I used to get video studder during the opening Warner Home Video logo. This now plays cleanly with the 0220 FW. The video studder on Dead Ringers never bothered me because it only affected the WHV logo. The WHV opening studder seems to be present on only the Morgan Creek titled discs like Dead Ringers and Dominion (Exorcist). With the other FW's only occasionally I would see this effect during some DVD menu's like Peter Gabriel's Play. So it seems to have been corrected on some DVD's and introduced on others. Hmmm.

I then tried EPIII and also saw the effect in the opening ("A long time ago...") and the pan down to the planet during the opening action sequence.

I just got my Oppo in January and started out with the 1111b firmware, I've always had that issue on episdoe 3, I was never quite sure what it was. I use 480p through DVI with video 1 (don't have any PAL discs, PAL is the only reason to use video 2, correct?)

I just got my Oppo in January and started out with the 1111b firmware, I've always had that issue on episdoe 3, I was never quite sure what it was. I use 480p through DVI with video 1 (don't have any PAL discs, PAL is the only reason to use video 2, correct?)

Video 2 doesn't affect the picture via DVI/HDMI only allows proper PAL/NTSC conversion. You won't get any picture with it set to Video 2 if you're using component/RCA/S-video out. I never noticed this effect on EPIII until I started using the beta 1224 version or the new 0220.

I just got my Oppo in January and started out with the 1111b firmware, I've always had that issue on episdoe 3, I was never quite sure what it was. I use 480p through DVI with video 1 (don't have any PAL discs, PAL is the only reason to use video 2, correct?)
From what I can see... in reference to the pan down (of initial space battle after the opening crawl) in SW EPIII... the "jutter" that I see in that scene (on every firmware version) looks more like a cadence issue... while the new firmware "jutter" is more of a visual glitch (and happens right after chapter skipping but not all the time) and doesn't look like problem locking onto cadence.

-Terry

Whatever it is, it's cleary an issue that many of us are expierencing, and appears to be an Oppo issue has this doesn't occur on my Panny RP82. We should bring this to Oppo's attention and I'm sure they will work to resolve it. I really love this player and hope they can quickly resolve this issue. I agree that we should commend oppo on their fantastic support of this great player.

Regarding SW EPIII I reverted back to the 1022 FW and the first time playing the opening including playing the THX trailer and I didn't see this issue in "A Long time ago..." I did see the studder with the pan down in the opening action sequence, however I inadvertently discovered something else. With the 1022 FW if you play SW EPIII with the THX trailer you don't get the jutter in "A long time ago..." Properly the THX trailer only plays the first time you play the title after inserting the DVD (I also noticed a slight juttering in the opening sentence of this trailer). If you go back to the Fox fanfare (without the THX trailer playing first) and let it play through you get the jutter in "A long time ago...." even on the 1022 FW. With the new 0220 FW it's there no matter what you do. I know this is getting picky but maybe someone that knows a little more about proper cadence etc. might be able to derive something from this observation.

I updated to the new firmware and noticed that the audio delay was defaulted to 5. I've never had any issues with lip sync so I set it to zero. I honestly don't remember what it was. It was defaulted before the update and I've had no problems.

Yeah mine was defaulted to 5 also, I didn have any probs with lip sync so I also set it back to zero.

Oh and about the vid1 /vid2 yeah I'm on vid2 (I use dvi-hdmi 720p)

How bout a hack to let us upconvert using the component connections?

Hardware doesn't allow it .The chip that does the scaling is on the DVI board.

Yeah mine was defaulted to 5 also, I didn have any probs with lip sync so I also set it back to zero.

Oh and about the vid1 /vid2 yeah I'm on vid2 (I use dvi-hdmi 720p)
+5 is 0 on the delay scale.
The new firmware did the trick for my new panny AE900U lcd projector..No more image shift and the whole picture looks better!

+5 is in the center of the scale, but each 1 point on the scale equals 10ms. The new firmware update deaults audio delay to 50 ms.

+5 is in the center of the scale, but each 1 point on the scale equals 10ms. The new firmware update deaults audio delay to 50 ms.
I think you have to look at +5 as the 0 point and from there you can go + or - as needed but the 5 setting seems to work perfect for me!

I posted the below message in a new thread, but was recommended to ask here. So, help me. Thanks.

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My new oppo does not play music CD. It tries to load up, but after some spinning noise for 30-40 seconds, it says "no disc". But it plays DVD just fine.

I got this player about a month ago. Watched some movies on it and never played music CD till now. About a couple of weeks ago, I got new firmware CD from Oppo, tried to flash, but the player failed to read. Basically same symptom, spinning for about a little over 1 minute, then said "no disc". I ejected the CD and put DVD disc, it plays fine. And today was the first time I tried to play music CD on this player. So I am not sure whether this Oppo CD did something to the player that prevents playing music CD.

What can cause this? How do I resolve this?

One more question: Is it common for this Oppo player to take about 10 seconds to load up DVD? It seems to me quite long...

Overall, I like the player except mentioned above.

Thanks.

I posted the below message in a new thread, but was recommended to ask here. So, help me. Thanks.

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My new oppo does not play music CD. It tries to load up, but after some spinning noise for 30-40 seconds, it says "no disc". But it plays DVD just fine.

I got this player about a month ago. Watched some movies on it and never played music CD till now. About a couple of weeks ago, I got new firmware CD from Oppo, tried to flash, but the player failed to read. Basically same symptom, spinning for about a little over 1 minute, then said "no disc". I ejected the CD and put DVD disc, it plays fine. And today was the first time I tried to play music CD on this player. So I am not sure whether this Oppo CD did something to the player that prevents playing music CD.

What can cause this? How do I resolve this?

One more question: Is it common for this Oppo player to take about 10 seconds to load up DVD? It seems to me quite long...

Overall, I like the player except mentioned above.

Thanks.

Mitch,

I saw your other thread, but it sounds like you have a problem with the oppo. I play CD's on mine with no problem.

If I were you I would email OPPO service at service@oppodigital.com. I've found them to be the most responsive customer support I've ever dealt with. (although I suspect they are pretty frustrated at this point with the problems with their latest FW update.) You can also call, if you prefer. In any event, I'd contact them with your problem. Let us know results (incase we run into it).

The delay seems in line with what I see, it seems to take a while to load and start DVD. I've learned patience (just walk slower going back to the couch after putting in DVD).

Rick

I think you have to look at +5 as the 0 point and from there you can go + or - as needed but the 5 setting seems to work perfect for me!

The delay settings will not matter if you are using the digital outputs, as the delay now only reflects changes to the analog audio outputs.

rickie,
Yes, as I was suggested in the other thread, I contacted Oppo through email. I will report back as soon as I get it resolved. The bad thing is I can not find the original box. This player was a Christmas present for me last year and I think the box was thrown away with other boxes after the holidays. Well, I will have to improvise in case I return the unit.

Speaking of their support level, in particular the fast response to emails, let me just say how impressed I've been with them. I JUST placed my purchase for the player, but this was after some back and forth emails with their service department, trying to clear up some questions I had on their player.

Both of their replies just now came within 10 minutes of my email to them. And this is at 11PM on Sunday back in California.

Try that with Sony ;)

Regarding SW EPIII I reverted back to the 1022 FW and the first time playing the opening including playing the THX trailer and I didn't see this issue in "A Long time ago..." I did see the studder with the pan down in the opening action sequence, however I inadvertently discovered something else. With the 1022 FW if you play SW EPIII with the THX trailer you don't get the jutter in "A long time ago..." Properly the THX trailer only plays the first time you play the title after inserting the DVD (I also noticed a slight juttering in the opening sentence of this trailer). If you go back to the Fox fanfare (without the THX trailer playing first) and let it play through you get the jutter in "A long time ago...." even on the 1022 FW. With the new 0220 FW it's there no matter what you do. I know this is getting picky but maybe someone that knows a little more about proper cadence etc. might be able to derive something from this observation.


With reference to this particular disc (ROTS R1 and R2), there was a whole bunch of chatter about it months ago, reporting exactly the same problems--I think this was when the 1022b firmware came out (see this page for the first mention, I can find: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6471993&highlight=star+wars#post6471993). It was, I think, decided then that the intial stutter was caused by a flagging/cadence issue as there is more than one language option for the 'A long time ago...' bit, and this causes a discontintuity as the English version kicks back in.

The same issues are brought about by the kind of rampant chapter hopping we all do when testing new fw. Which is not to say there isn't a problem--it's perhaps the case that the oppo hasn't quite perfected it's tracking of cadence flags.

It appears that ROTS, whilst visually stunning, has quite a lot of issues preventing it from being a reference quality DVD--hence all the reports. BTW, ROTS has looked pretty much the same on every fw so far for me--a very slight judder at the beginning, especially on that large ship, but which is so slight as to leave me unsure whether it's 'artistically' intended or even an encoding error--though, as said, it's probably just a bad flag (FYI I'm talking about the R2 PAL version).

Dave

The faroudja chip should be making the decisons regarding pulldown and not paying attention to the flags. If the oppo is merely reading flags then the faroudja chip isn't being used to it's full potential.

I bought an Oppo 971H player December 2005, and I have been pretty happy with it. Recently I also bought WinDVD 7 software for my HTPC that shares the projector with the Oppo. I have discovered that the software decoder on WinDVD 7, which Intervideo calls "TrimensionDNM Advanced" gives little or no "judder" in the video, while the Oppo produces jerky scrolling motions, with jumps of a few vertical scan lines.

This effect is most noticable during the closing credits of a movie, where the white credits scroll vertically against a black background. I know this is a contrived test, and the difference between these two players is not usually visible on normal video. Nevertheless, we use contrived tests all the time when testing video components.

I was wondering if anybody else could verify this finding, and if there is some fundamental problem with the Oppo in this regard. Thanks.

On a brighter note regarding the new 0220 FW, I believe the picture quality at 1080i to be slightly smoother and the color saturation to be better. The could be a placebo effect but I'd be curious what others think. Maybe it's just the phenomenal picture this player produces that continues to marvel and suprise me!

On a brighter note regarding the new 0220 FW, I believe the picture quality at 1080i to be slightly smoother and the color saturation to be better. The could be a placebo effect but I'd be curious what others think. Maybe it's just the phenomenal picture this player produces that continues to marvel and suprise me!

I have an 1080i native CRT, but I still see the "jitter" on the Oppo screen saver screen. With that, I have not tried to watch a movie at 1080i yet. Are you still seeing the "jitter?"

With the 0220 firmware, I'm seeing the "jitter" on the Oppo screen with the 1080i setting. But, having a native 720p Samsung DLP, it doesn't bother me because I use the 720p setting. I just wanted to add my confirmation of the issue.

With the 0220 firmware, I'm seeing the "jitter" on the Oppo screen with the 1080i setting. But, having a native 720p Samsung DLP, it doesn't bother me because I use the 720p setting. I just wanted to add my confirmation of the issue.

I use 720p right now too, but would rather, if it looks as good or better, let Oppo do the conversion to 1080i so my TV does not have to work too hard on it. The more it has to work, the worse the picture. Rijax, I am sure you get my drift :o

Overall, 720p looks good. Watched Legends of the Fall and A River Runs Through It the other night with the wife and you can really see why Legends of the Fall won a cinematography award in 1994-1995 time frame.

With the 0220 firmware, I'm seeing the "jitter" on the Oppo screen with the 1080i setting. But, having a native 720p Samsung DLP, it doesn't bother me because I use the 720p setting. I just wanted to add my confirmation of the issue.


I see that too so I've been using 720P. Other than that I've seen none of the other issues reported. And that jitter was there at 1080i before the latest firmware too.

With the 0220 firmware, I'm seeing the "jitter" on the Oppo screen with the 1080i setting. But, having a native 720p Samsung DLP, it doesn't bother me because I use the 720p setting. I just wanted to add my confirmation of the issue.

Maybe being one that was cursed with the picture shift until now, I may be the one this time, that doesn't have the jitter problem as a good portion of you are experiencing. I have only watched one movie since (The Devil's Rejects), but didn't see anything wrong and I purposely updated the output to 1080i from 720. I will pop in SW EPIII tonight and see if I can see any issue with the intro.

I have an 1080i native CRT, but I still see the "jitter" on the Oppo screen saver screen. With that, I have not tried to watch a movie at 1080i yet. Are you still seeing the "jitter?"

I've never seen the "jitter" issue on the Oppo splash screen or the screen saver. Maybe with the 1022 firmware there was a very slight "jitter." I had to really look for it and even then I'm not sure if it just wasn't the CRT guns warming up because it was never noticble during movies. Recent firmwares have shown absolutely no evidence of this at any resolution.

I've never seen the "jitter" issue on the Oppo splash screen or the screen saver. Maybe with the 1022 firmware there was a very slight "jitter." I had to really look for it and even then I'm not sure if it just wasn't the CRT guns warming up because it was never noticble during movies. Recent firmwares have shown absolutely no evidence of this at any resolution.

Thanks. I know that my CRT guns need to warm up on my set b/c when I first turn on the TV, any HD signal is a little off for about 10 minutes. I may try that.

On a brighter note regarding the new 0220 FW, I believe the picture quality at 1080i to be slightly smoother and the color saturation to be better. The could be a placebo effect but I'd be curious what others think. Maybe it's just the phenomenal picture this player produces that continues to marvel and suprise me!


I have a Tosh 65HX93 RP-CRT with 1080i native. I actually have always had a hard time telling difference between 720p and 1080i resolution from the oppo on movies. I finally used Avia resolution patterns and it looked like 270p was slightly better. I repeated those tests after updating to the 0222 FW and 720p still had a slight edge for me.

Howver the jerkiness of the video was very very bad. I had not had that problem on any earlier FW. I reverted back to the 1022 FW and jerkiness left.

Rick

I would have stuck with it too, but every DVD I tried, commercial and recorded had the jerky motion (about 5 DVD's I think I tried). I reloaded 1022 FW last nite.

What DVDs did you try playing? All of the discs I have thrown at it (aside from Domino and the beginning of RotS - see previous posts) have played flawlessly. For sake of diagnostic testing, please post the DVD titles you attempted to play.

For sake of diagnostic testing, please post the DVD titles you attempted to play.

Tuck Everlasting, pretty much throughout the entire film.

Has the new firmware come out yet?
J

Has the new firmware come out yet?
J


err....which new firmware do you mean? the most recent one that we know of is the 0220, and that came out on last fri night.

hope this helps.

hi gang, ordered OPPO from amazon used free shipping option took 2 weeks to get. came with 2 cables the remote is sliver on the sides with a black front the keys are hard to read is this the newest remote???

err....which new firmware do you mean? the most recent one that we know of is the 0220, and that came out on last fri night.

hope this helps.

How come 1111B is still the one listed on their support page?

How come 1111B is still the one listed on their support page?

0220 still hasn't officially been released yet.

hi gang, ordered OPPO from amazon used free shipping option took 2 weeks to get. came with 2 cables the remote is sliver on the sides with a black front the keys are hard to read is this the newest remote???

Nope, Amazon is still sending the old remotes. The new remotes have greenish keys that glow in the dark.

Here is a picture (remote on the right):

http://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h_firmware_1111_download.html

If you email Oppo a copy of your Amazon receipt and it is within 30 day, they will send you the new remote for free.

What DVDs did you try playing? All of the discs I have thrown at it (aside from Domino and the beginning of RotS - see previous posts) have played flawlessly. For sake of diagnostic testing, please post the DVD titles you attempted to play.

One commercial - Angelheart
Two recorded on Pio 531 (always played fine on earlier FW)
Two recorded on Emerson EWR10D4 (used to stutter every few minutes but was still useable - now stutters every few minutes and jerks in between)

After going back to 1022 None of them were jerky.

I've thought about trying the Nov firmware, but I didnt think it offered anything I needed (I dont play divx or PAL DVD's)

RIck

Tuck Everlasting, pretty much throughout the entire film.

I'll have to see if I don't have Tuck Everlasting still sitting around somewhere.

OK. Does anyone else have problems with divx subtitles?

I used to have a Phillips DVP642, and being a Mac user, Toast wouldn't burn .sub files right, so I've always used Discribe - made the file names the same, etc. Tried burning both for the Oppo, but neither method is working. Got a new set of coasters though :-)

So if anyone uses a Mac and knows what the dealio is, please share.

OMG... the cust support from OPPO is... JAW DROPPING!

I seriously just emailed them about the black remote and got an answer 1 (thats right.. ONE) minute afterwards saying they would send me a new style remote.

check it out:

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6113/oppo4ie.jpg

OK. Does anyone else have problems with divx subtitles?

I used to have a Phillips DVP642, and being a Mac user, Toast wouldn't burn .sub files right, so I've always used Discribe - made the file names the same, etc. Tried burning both for the Oppo, but neither method is working. Got a new set of coasters though :-)

So if anyone uses a Mac and knows what the dealio is, please share.

I've had perfect results burning .iso files using Disk Utility on a Mac with a Superdrive. No experience burning .sub files.

Dana

How come 1111B is still the one listed on their support page?

It is up officially now.

And with a new disclaimer:
Known Issue:

* Playback of some DivX files may not be smooth but appear "choppy". OPPO Digital is working on improvement to this issue. If you primarily use the player to watch DivX contents, please do not upgrade to this firmware version. OPPO Digital expects to have an update to resolve this issue soon.

Curious if anyone can explain this to me.

I am new OPPO owner, hooked into 4805 via DVI, new firmwares on each, gains/offsets set on pj. Outputting 480P. I had expected to see the right aspect ratio via "Native" aspect setting on 4805. If I play a 4:3 DVD (like Avia) in Native, it looks normal. If I put in a 16:9 DVD via Native, it still shows as 4:3 compressed and I have to change the aspect ratio on my 4805 to 16:9.

Have I got something set incorrectly?

I checked that I had selected "Widescreen" in the OPPO setup menu. Seems like if I am changing aspect on the pj, I am doing 1 extra scaling it shouldn't need to do if the OPPO were sending a 480P, 16:9 image.

It is up officially now.

And with a new disclaimer:
Known Issue:

* Playback of some DivX files may not be smooth but appear "choppy". OPPO Digital is working on improvement to this issue. If you primarily use the player to watch DivX contents, please do not upgrade to this firmware version. OPPO Digital expects to have an update to resolve this issue soon.


I downloaded this FW and both name and size are same as the FW file from last friday.

Do you know if there were any changes? If not, then the caution should be broader than just DivX playback.

Rick

I downloaded this FW and both name and size are same as the FW file from last friday.

Do you know if there were any changes? If not, then the caution should be broader than just DivX playback.

Rick

The Friday release was still official, but placed on the back burner if OPPO decided to yank it (before Friday they had it listed as "Beta" on the firmware site). Now that it is on their main page, it is officially acknowledged and released.

The caution is only applied to reported and confirmed errors. The errors noted in these forums have not been confirmed by OPPO, and therefore, are not part of the "Known Issue" disclaimer. If they can confrim the errors, then expect to see them listed.

And before you go "but they are known!", remember that other people of the forum have stated no problem with the firmware. Without proper confirmation, it is premature to caution the end user.

The Friday release was still official, but placed on the back burner if OPPO decided to yank it (before Friday they had it listed as "Beta" on the firmware site). Now that it is on their main page, it is officially acknowledged and released.

The caution is only applied to reported and confirmed errors. The errors noted in these forums have not been confirmed by OPPO, and therefore, are not part of the "Known Issue" disclaimer. If they can confrim the errors, then expect to see them listed.

And before you go "but they are known!", remember that other people of the forum have stated no problem with the firmware. Without proper confirmation, it is premature to caution the end user.

Well, I did report the problem to OPPO on Sunday, and they replied they would run more tests on Monday based on my and other emails. Apparently they were unable to duplicate the problem. Maybe that means I'll end up staying with the 1022 firmware indefinitely.

I'm a little surprised because I think it's going to generate quite a few calls/emails.

Oh well, I'm not slamming OPPO, I know they must be getting pretty frustrated with this FW. I just hope the don't just fix the DivX side of the problem.


Thanks for update.

Rick

I'm a little surprised because I think it's going to generate quite a few calls/emails.


In another sense, you will also create a larger headache if you list a bunch of errors that you are not sure actually exist. Now you will have a bunch of people calling up/emailing you to see if they may experience problem X or problem Y because they read it somewhere. As a consumer, if you read about it, it becomes truth. Self-fulilling prophecy is the bane of customer service representatives.

It is easier to trouble shoot problems then to explain to people under what conditions they may experience problems (a concrete error versus a theoretical one).

In another sense, you will also create a larger headache if you list a bunch of errors that you are not sure actually exist. Now you will have a bunch of people calling up/emailing you see if they may experience problem X or problem Y because they read it somewhere. As a consumer, if you read about it, it becomes truth. Self9fulilling prophecy is the bane of customer service representatives.

It is easier to trouble shoot problems then to explain to people under what conditions they may experience problems (a concrete error versus a theoretical one).

Ok, I'll shut up.

Rick

If anyone's interested, here are my Avia calibration numbers for 4805 over DVI with the 0220 fw:

4805
Gains 58
Offsets 29
Film Gamma
White Peaking 0

Oppo
Default settings
Brightness -1
Saturation +1

Still interested in explanation on the aspect ratio from Oppo when 4805 set to Native. Expecting 16:9 but only getting 4:3 even though I select "wide" for display type in Oppo.

Is the problem possibly that 480p is a 4:3 format and not 16:9?

Dana

The delay settings will not matter if you are using the digital outputs, as the delay now only reflects changes to the analog audio outputs.

So...if we *are* using the optical output, we're just SOL? Should I reload the beta firmware with the 120ms delay still in it? Did *that* delay affect the optical?

I've never had problems with lip sync over analog because the L and R analog goes into the sound input on my TV, so it's all processed at the same time. (and *then* sent to my receiver as PCM since the ***ing TV won't do a digital passthrough)

Will the oppo pass DTS through the analog outputs? I don't even think my receiver even has analog 5.1 inputs on it anyway. I'm stuck using optical or AC-3...which means no sync control from the Oppo.

Unless there's something I'm simply misunderstanding?

SV

So...if we *are* using the optical output, we're just SOL? Should I reload the beta firmware with the 120ms delay still in it? Did *that* delay affect the optical?

None of the firmware actually did anything in relation to the digital outputs [if the firmware is anything to go by]. For the most part, most audio-sync issues should be corrected with the new A/V fix in the new firmware. Any additional delay will have to come through your receiver, or you will have to use PCM.

I contacted with the guys from that russian site and they told me that they are already working on new FW F-0220 and for now send me FW with only fix for choppy divx playback and added NeroDigital MPEG4 ASP file format support.


http://rapidshare.de/files/14326191/oppo971-F-0220-newARM.zip.html

None of the firmware actually did anything in relation to the digital outputs [if the firmware is anything to go by]. For the most part, most audio-sync issues should be corrected with the new A/V fix in the new firmware. Any additional delay will have to come through your receiver, or you will have to use PCM.

If the delay setting has *never* affected the optical output, then my brain must be pretty darned good at altering reality to fit my expectations. The firmware that went to 120ms matched up a *lot* of the discs I watch.

SV

I contacted with the guys from that russian site and they told me that they are already working on new FW F-0220 and for now send me FW with only fix for choppy divx playback and added NeroDigital MPEG4 ASP file format support.


http://rapidshare.de/files/14326191/oppo971-F-0220-newARM.zip.html

Hi.
Could you post a link to their site please?
I used their firmware before with no problems, but I can't remember their address.
Thanks!

If the delay setting has *never* affected the optical output, then my brain must be pretty darned good at altering reality to fit my expectations. The firmware that went to 120ms matched up a *lot* of the discs I watch.

SV

I agree--it always felt like the audio delay had some effect on the optical out using RAW--PCM is next to useless as it only outputs in stereo.

Dave

It would be silly to not have the fixes effect ALL sound output types. I use Optical, and ONLY Optical. Another thing. It would be nice if someone started a thread to see what TVs the OPPO actually works awesome on as per the DVI connections. I am finding here and there reading posts that the OPPO and Hitachi UltraVisions thru the DVI connections is not the best marriage.

This way potential buyers can assess quicker depending on what their TV is, whether they should bother buying or not. On a sad note, I will be sending my OPPO back BECAUSE I cannot get upconversion using the player on MY Hitachi, and there is/was no provisions made to allow for upconversion using component connections.

Silly really that upconversion is based upon using a particular TV set as well. I am gonna go REGET a Samsung HD850, and see if the Hack using component connections actually works for my particular TV. What a dance.

It would be silly to not have the fixes effect ALL sound output types. I use Optical, and ONLY Optical. Another thing. It would be nice if someone started a thread to see what TVs the OPPO actually works awesome on as per the DVI connections. I am finding here and there reading posts that the OPPO and Hitachi UltraVisions thru the DVI connections is not the best marriage.

This way potential buyers can assess quicker depending on what their TV is, whether they should bother buying or not. On a sad note, I will be sending my OPPO back BECAUSE I cannot get upconversion using the player on MY Hitachi, and there is/was no provisions made to allow for upconversion using component connections.

Silly really that upconversion is based upon using a particular TV set as well. I am gonna go REGET a Samsung HD850, and see if the Hack using component connections actually works for my particular TV. What a dance.

There is a player/display thread as a sticky on the DVD Palyers Standard Def forum on this site.

Also, I don't think the oppo can be hacked in that way as the upconversion ship is on the DVI board. This is a pretty well known oppo 'feature.'

Dave

I contacted with the guys from that russian site and they told me that they are already working on new FW F-0220 and for now send me FW with only fix for choppy divx playback and added NeroDigital MPEG4 ASP file format support.


http://rapidshare.de/files/14326191/oppo971-F-0220-newARM.zip.html


Does this one also have No UPO's?


I hate UPO's drive me nuts.

At present I have the 1022 firmware installed.

I use Oppo with a BenQ PE8700+ DLP front projector.

The only issue that I would like to fix is the 2-3 unutilised pixel which I have all around the screen in DVI 720p.

Before I install the new firmware (Because I have philosophy that if it's not broken, don't fix it :rolleyes: ) somebody can say to me if that new firmware solves this problem?

Thank you!

If the delay setting has *never* affected the optical output, then my brain must be pretty darned good at altering reality to fit my expectations. The firmware that went to 120ms matched up a *lot* of the discs I watch.

SV

I think the same thing at times, but what may be going on for a lot of people using optical or digital output, is what Nueromancer said in an earlier post:

As a consumer, if you read about it, it becomes truth. Self-fulilling prophecy is the bane of customer service representatives.

I have had the lipsync happen to me one time, on Just Like Heaven, but I had been fast forwarding and rewinding because my wife kept getting up and leaving the room and saying, "You don't need to stop it," but then came back in, "What just happened?" ;) (I LOVE YOU, HONEY) :p

On a brighter note regarding the new 0220 FW, I believe the picture quality at 1080i to be slightly smoother and the color saturation to be better. The could be a placebo effect but I'd be curious what others think. Maybe it's just the phenomenal picture this player produces that continues to marvel and suprise me!

I think the "jitter" on the splash screen is just a quirk. I watched MirrorMask with 1080i, 0220 FW and it looked great.

:D :D

Does this one also have No UPO's?


I hate UPO's drive me nuts.

Yes. No UOP and Pan&Scan works for all disc.

Hi.
Could you post a link to their site please?
I used their firmware before with no problems, but I can't remember their address.
Thanks!

Their address is http://bbk985s.narod.ru but there aren't any new firmware yet.

I've been testing the 0220 fw against the 0217 beta and the 1226b. I've found no difference between them in terms of judder. The discs I thoughy were a problem (the region 1 Wallace and Gromit pan past the photos and the region 3 Eros) played exactly the same every time--i.e., a slight judder on the pan. So it's either on the disc or it's a general oppo/ae700 problem.

I also looked at ROTS again. No difference to show on repeated tests.

Dave

Those who are having judder issues, is this a problem at every output resolution, or just certain resolutions?

Those who are having judder issues, is this a problem at every output resolution, or just certain resolutions?
I'm unfamiliar with the term "judder."

I have a 34" Sony direct view crt hd set and I see strange behavior when the Oppo is set to 1080i. I see two things: one is a kind of "pulsing" from left to right; the other is probably judder, a kind of very quick back-and-forth which ranges a very, very short distance - a kind of shivering..

This behavior is easier to see in the screen saver mode. I don't know if that's because it's harder to detect with a moving picture, or if it's not as prevalent at that time.

I just use 720p all the time and it looks great. I would prefer to set the Oppo to 1080i so all my set has to do is display the picture.

Those who are having judder issues, is this a problem at every output resolution, or just certain resolutions?
Didn't answer you question completely.

720p looks perfect.

1080i has this shivering.

480p is terribly jumpy and unwatchable.

Maybe this is my imagination but I initially set the audio delay on the player from the default +5 to 0 thinking the default was a glitch in the fw. With it set at 0 since I downloaded the 0220 FW I had been noticing more "judder" in scenes where the camera pans horizontally. I set the delay back to the default and all seems back to normal. Again maybe it's a placebo, but setting something to such an extreme usually has some sort of side effect. Anyone have comments?

Still interested in explanation on the aspect ratio from Oppo when 4805 set to Native. Expecting 16:9 but only getting 4:3 even though I select "wide" for display type in Oppo.

The Native setting on the 4805 means that the projector will not scale the image to the projector's native resolution; it will display it as it's received. Thus, a received 480p image will be displayed as a 720x480 image by the projector. This is DVD player-independent. Try it on component outputs from any DVD player, should be the same result (although I don't think I've tested this to ensure that DVI and component inputs on projector act identically; I have an Infocus 7200 which has the same display settings). What happens inside that 720x480 image could be impacted by the display settings of the DVD player, but that's irrelevant,since you don't want to use the Native setting with a 480p signal on a digital display that is 720p native.

Use the Native setting with a DVD player output of 720p, and the 4805 will display it as such (1280x720) without going through its scaling process. With the Oppo set to Wide / Squeeze, both anamorphic widescreen aspect ratios and 4:3 should display correctly, so you would never need to change the 4805 display setting. You may need to fiddle around for letterbox non-anamorphic content, though; I forget what the optimal combo of settings is, but I think the projector's Letterbox display setting will still be needed for these.

HTH

Doug

Douglas_B,

Ok, I am struggling with this. On 7200, native resolution is 720P but on 4805, its native is 480P. So shouldn't I select 480P output, "Widescreen" on the OPPO? Based on my limited understanding, a 720P image would have to be scaled on the 4805.

Douglas_B,

Ok, I am struggling with this. On 7200, native resolution is 720P but on 4805, its native is 480P. So shouldn't I select 480P output, "Widescreen" on the OPPO? Based on my limited understanding, a 720P image would have to be scaled on the 4805.

Set the Oppo to Widescreen and 480p. Set the 4805 to 16:9. Use the 4805 in 4:3 or letterbox mode for 4:3 movies and non-anamorphic widescreen dvds for best picture. Set the Oppo to Wide/SQZ if you don't want to mess with the 4805's aspect ratios (keeping it at 16:9 contantly) where 4:3 will fit in the 16:9 window and you can zoom non-anamorphic movies to fit using the Oppo's zoom, but quality here is not as good.

The 4805 is native 854x480. 480p is native 720x480. The two are different.

Nobody know if the pixel cropping all around the picture with some display at 720p is solved with the new firmware?

I would like to test it well but I have to lost CD of installation of the firmware which I have to at present to be able to retrogress !

Those who are having judder issues, is this a problem at every output resolution, or just certain resolutions?

I tried 480p, 720p and 1080i. 540p doesnt pass to my set (Toshiba 65hx93). I normally watch at 720p, but tried all three to see if that would get rid of the jutter on the 0220 FW. But all rates had the jutter.

The behavior I observed and reported to OPPO was a jerky playback. Like watching a film where a fast strobe light was flashing (not QUITE that bad). On 3 of 5 DVD's it smoothed out after 2-3 minutes, but would start again after a pause, or a stop or a fast forward. (on the other 2 it stayed (but those others were from a recorder that produces a stutter on the OPPO).

Thanks
Rick

Nobody know if the pixel cropping all around the picture with some display at 720p is solved with the new firmware?

I would like to test it well but I have to lost CD of installation of the firmware which I have to at present to be able to retrogress !

The border is still there unfortunately.

It looks like OPPO quietly gave us something that has been requested for a long time: an Updated OPDV971H Manual (http://www.oppodigital.com/Download/OPDV971H_User_Manual.pdf)

I contacted with the guys from that russian site and they told me that they are already working on new FW F-0220 and for now send me FW with only fix for choppy divx playback and added NeroDigital MPEG4 ASP file format support.

Are there instructions for how to burn this to CD? I tried to follow the instructions from the pic of the Russian version of Nero on their website, but my oppo doesn't recognize the disc.

Are there instructions for how to burn this to CD? I tried to follow the instructions from the pic of the Russian version of Nero on their website, but my oppo doesn't recognize the disc.

Open Nero Burning ROM.
In the New Compilation window select the ISO Tab.
Under File System pull down the drop down box.
Select ISO 9660 only.
Click New.
Drop the 935.bin file into the Explorer window.
Burn the CD.

Don't know if the name is important for the CD or not, but I used OPDV971H for my compliation name.

The border is still there unfortunately.

I find that at 480p it looks ok - at least with my Pana 700 it fills the screen. If I go to 540, 720 or 1080, the image instantly shrinks and does not use all of the LCD panels pixels.

Very anoying.

Don't know if it's already been posted but Oppo just released a new (interim) firmware F-0228.

You can download it here: http://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h_firmware_0228_download.html

Note: This release is not an official release but an interim solution to address the DivX/MPEG-2 playback issue of the F-0220. It does not include the improvement to audio/video synchronization found in the official F-0220 release. Please do not use this version if you are not experiencing DivX/MPEG-2 playback issues, as it will negate the audio/video syncronization improvements integrated into the F-0220 firmware.

Ja Phule,

Ah-ha! Infocus on their 4805 specs says the DMD used is 480P native, so I just assumed 854x480 was 480P....thanks for the clarification. I have it set as you described to let 4805 control the aspect. It would be nice if Oppo could provide custom resolutions, wonder if thats in the cards.

BTW, thanks for your posts in the other threads, they're what led me to the OPPO.

If you find other tweaks for the 4805/Oppo, please post.

Ja Phule,

Ah-ha! Infocus on their 4805 specs says the DMD used is 480P native, so I just assumed 854x480 was 480P....thanks for the clarification. I have it set as you described to let 4805 control the aspect. It would be nice if Oppo could provide custom resolutions, wonder if thats in the cards.

BTW, thanks for your posts in the other threads, they're what led me to the OPPO.

If you find other tweaks for the 4805/Oppo, please post.

Custom resolution would be nice, or have 854x480 as a choice, but I don't think Oppo plans on implementing it (though I feel its doable...since the Faroudja is capable of this resolution).

I need to recalibrate with the new firmware, but I had gains/offsets at 58/28.5, oppo at default 50 with saturation at +1 with the 1111b firmware.

Don't know if the name is important for the CD or not, but I used OPDV971H for my compliation name.

Thanks, that's what I did other than the name. I unchecked all of the checkboxes last time except for "joliet" which wasn't on the pic in the russian version they were using. This time I used the same settings but unchecked "joliet" and used the copilation name you did. It seems to have worked. I love not having any UPOs :) it's really annoying when you can't switch subtitles on or off in the middle of the film and have to go back to the menu to do so.

so are there any advantages to the russian update over the oppo off. update?
please give me some if any.. thanks

so are there any advantages to the russian update over the oppo off. update?
please give me some if any.. thanks

The only things that the Russian firmware will give you over the official firmware is the ability to bypass UPO and Nero Digital support (though for some reason, I can't get it to work anymore with any of the hacked firmware).

I've been corresponding via email with oppo today and I first must say that their commitement to customer service is just awesome. I have never had a company that works so hard to make their customers happy. They emailed me the link for the new 0228 firmware. I am one of those seeing issues on Episode III at 1080i and they think this firmware, which addresses the Divx issue might fix this too. The only issue is that I'm out of town on business and won't get to try it out until Friday. Is anyone else who has this issue going to install it and see it it helps? Correct me if I'm wrong, but i believe it is possible to flash back to 0220 if needed?

You can flash and reflash to your hearts content. There is nothing stopping you from doing so.

I've been corresponding via email with oppo today and I first must say that their commitement to customer service is just awesome. I have never had a company that works so hard to make their customers happy. They emailed me the link for the new 0228 firmware. I am one of those seeing issues on Episode III at 1080i and they think this firmware, which addresses the Divx issue might fix this too. The only issue is that I'm out of town on business and won't get to try it out until Friday. Is anyone else who has this issue going to install it and see it it helps? Correct me if I'm wrong, but i believe it is possible to flash back to 0220 if needed?


I emailed Oppo and asked if I should try it or not. I ecperienced jerkiness in DVD's after the 0220 FW. (I dont have the Episode III though). Oppo has not responded yet.

If they say try it, I will.

Rick

You can flash and reflash to your hearts content. There is nothing stopping you from doing so.

Other than being out of town!

I am one of those seeing issues on Episode III at 1080i and they think this firmware, which addresses the Divx issue might fix this too.

I assume you're talking about the stutter on the tilt after the opening crawl, I've been seeing this on 480p since the 1111 firmware. I just tried the 0228 firmware and had the same issue, it didn't fix it, at least at 480p.

Ja Phule

I posted my calibrations further on back with the 0220/4805. Basically same though I backed off brightness -1 in addition to saturation +1. Watched Saving Private Ryan last night and was very pleased with the picture. Its sepia toned/grainy by design, old player didn't handle it very well. No lip sync issues that I noticed.

I'm unfamiliar with the term "judder."

I have a 34" Sony direct view crt hd set and I see strange behavior when the Oppo is set to 1080i. I see two things: one is a kind of "pulsing" from left to right; the other is probably judder, a kind of very quick back-and-forth which ranges a very, very short distance - a kind of shivering..

This behavior is easier to see in the screen saver mode. I don't know if that's because it's harder to detect with a moving picture, or if it's not as prevalent at that time.

I just use 720p all the time and it looks great. I would prefer to set the Oppo to 1080i so all my set has to do is display the picture.


ALL sony CRT's don't handle 1080i from upscaling players, my TV shakes the image at 1080i I duno why but it seems to be a SONY problem, had it with the OPPO and panny s97.

I contacted with the guys from that russian site and they told me that they are already working on new FW F-0220 and for now send me FW with only fix for choppy divx playback and added NeroDigital MPEG4 ASP file format support.


http://rapidshare.de/files/14326191/oppo971-F-0220-newARM.zip.html


I really like their version of the 1022 firmware, so I can't wait for the 0220 to come out. No problems at all with their last version.

I informed oppo about my findings on Episode III with the new 0228 firmware and this was their reply.

The stutter on this portion of the disc has always been there. We do not
know what is causing it, but it is an issue that has always been in the
firmware. It is one of those things we would like to fix, but do not
know where to begin.

Kind of disheartening, but it's a pretty minor problem for me as this was the only scene I've ever noticed the stutter on. It's nice that Oppo is willing to admit that they don't know and accept help/suggestions from customers.

Well just put on the 220 fw and on my hitachi 65 rptv i now have the "stutter" in the opening pan after the crawl on EPIII. What other dvds have issues witht his fw? Hmm now debating on going back to the Nov fw.

Been reading this thread for over 2 hours. Too many posts!!! Can someone compare this unit to the Panny 97s? I have an 37' BenQ DV3750 and want a good player that would up-convert to 1080i. Which one would be a better unit to go with?

Thanx,
Kevin

Well just put on the 220 fw and on my hitachi 65 rptv i now have the "stutter" in the opening pan after the crawl on EPIII. What other dvds have issues witht his fw? Hmm now debating on going back to the Nov fw.

Do you notice any other errors or just the one? If just the one, I would stick with the 0220 firmware. If you get any combing or stuttering, then look into the 0228 firmware, which has all the fixes of the 0220 firmware but without the A/V Sync fix.

Neuro:

I'll have to test some more tonight. I just popped in that part of EP3 to test. Any other movies and scenes with known probs or are people experiencing issues all through some movies? Also, could someone send me the 2/17 fw in case i need to go back? Thx

I informed oppo about my findings on Episode III with the new 0228 firmware and this was their reply.



Kind of disheartening, but it's a pretty minor problem for me as this was the only scene I've ever noticed the studder on. It's nice that Oppo is willing to admit that they don't know and accept help/suggestions from customers.

I popped in SW Episode III last night, to see what this stuttering is all about. I have watched two movies, plus skiping through chapters and didn't see any stuttering or choppiness. Is everyone talking about the text "flicker" on "A long time ago, galaxy far away"? I saw that way back when, when it first came out, so it has been there at least a few firmware revision back. If I can get specific place to check, let me know and I will put in my two cents.

Were you talking about guys from bbk985s.narod.ru?
On their web-site the latest is 1022 rev. C. I wonder if there is another web-site they keep more up-to-date.
Who did you contact?

I popped in SW Episode III last night, to see what this stuttering is all about. I have watched two movies, plus skiping through chapters and didn't see any stuttering or choppiness. Is everyone talking about the text "flicker" on "A long time ago, galaxy far away"? I saw that way back when, when it first came out, so it has been there at least a few firmware revision back. If I can get specific place to check, let me know and I will put in my two cents.

The stutter everyone talks about is the part right after the opening crawl. You have a sharp pan down from space, past a partial sun and down to a spaceship.

This sequence, at least with every firmware I can remember, will either stutter during this sequence, or run smooth. If it runs smooth, the second or third time around it will stutter.

EDIT:
So I ran the sequence again on the 1111B firmware. I can induce both errors that have been reported on this disc.

Error 1: A Long Time Ago in A Galaxy Far Far Away ...
This error begins at Chapter 2 (0:00:23) into the film. If you directly access this chapter, or skip to it, you will not have an issue. However, if you go back several seconds into the LucasFilm logo, you will notice right away that the cadence is lost (you will see major jittering). The jitter will fix itself in a second. However, once it gets back into Chapter 2, the jitter error occurs again on the "A Long Time Ago in A Galaxy Far Far Away ..." text. I can induce this on the 1111B and 0220 firmware.

Error 2: Sun Pan.
After the text crawl (Chapter 3), there is a pan down from space over a partial sun and finally a space ship. The pan from space will begin great, but as soon as you get to the lens flair (signifying the sun) it starts to stutter. After about the time the sun is past the center of the screen, the pan is normal again. Like the previuos error, going back a little bit into the screen crawl will cause the crawl to jitter.
If you rewind to just as the lens flare appears on the screen, the pan is completely smooth. If you stop slightly before the lens flare, the pan will be incredibly disjointed again. This was replicable on the 1111B and 0220 firmware.

I watched that scene on my computer and it stutterd there also.It's probably a problem with the disk.That appears to be the only flaw that I can see.

Douglas_B,

Ok, I am struggling with this. On 7200, native resolution is 720P but on 4805, its native is 480P. So shouldn't I select 480P output, "Widescreen" on the OPPO? Based on my limited understanding, a 720P image would have to be scaled on the 4805.

Sorry, my bad. I think I had the 7205 on my mind instead of the 4805. Yes, without a direct resolution match with 480p or any other Oppo output, using Native is out. For the rest, as Ja Phule says...

Doug

Does the new firmware fix the "left shift" problem? I dont know if this is the correct terminology but the picture seems to be off center to the left a few inches.

Also I have to cycle through the inputs back to the HDMI input for Oppo before I get a picture. Get sound, but no picture. Is this a fix for the new firmware?

I might be sending this thing back. I am not that impressed so far. I havent given up yet, but I'm geting there.

Thanx in advance for any info

Well just put on the 220 fw and on my hitachi 65 rptv i now have the "stutter" in the opening pan after the crawl on EPIII. What other dvds have issues witht his fw? Hmm now debating on going back to the Nov fw.

The 0220 FW caused a jerky playback of all my DVD's recorded on two different DVD recorders. Also jerky playback on one commercial DVD (Angelheart). It was not subtle at all.

I just tried the 0228 Beta, all was smooth (well I still had a some stuttering on one of my recorders DVD's but thats been there since iI got the OPPO). I was also one of those who only had intermittant audio-sync problems, and fairly rare at that. So I should be fine with the 0228 beta for the time being.

Thanks for rapid interim fix.
Rick

Neuro:

I'll have to test some more tonight. I just popped in that part of EP3 to test. Any other movies and scenes with known probs or are people experiencing issues all through some movies? Also, could someone send me the 2/17 fw in case i need to go back? Thx

The 0217 firmware is pretty much the 0220 firmware, except that it defaults to the white remote, instead of the black remote. Other than that, there are no changes.

Does the new firmware fix the "left shift" problem? I dont know if this is the correct terminology but the picture seems to be off center to the left a few inches.

For most displays (Sony SXRD, Panasonic PT-AE700/900U, so forth) the shifting problem is gone.

Also I have to cycle through the inputs back to the HDMI input for Oppo before I get a picture. Get sound, but no picture. Is this a fix for the new firmware?

This could be a problem with the video syncronization of the display device. Ie. not fixed.

Also I have to cycle through the inputs back to the HDMI input for Oppo before I get a picture. Get sound, but no picture. Is this a fix for the new firmware?


I have to agree with Nueromancer on this one. I have a Phillips 30PW9110d/37 and I have the same issue. Sometimes I do have to cycle and sometimes I do not. I had to get a fix for the TV to even recognize my Oppo for a while, but other than that little issue, with all the movies that I have watched, especially the digital animation, i.e., Madagascar, Monsters, inc., Finding Nemo, The Incredibles, the picture and color and everything else is sweet.

I have a new Oppo connected to an Optoma H31 with the short DVI-DVI cable that came with the Oppo. When I power up the Oppo and start a DVD i can see bright pixels of different colors rapidly appearing and disappearing in what are supposed to be dark or black areas of the image. But they are not randomly distributed like snow. They fall into short horizontal lines and are more concentrated in some areas than others. From my seat they look white but if i get close to the screen i can see they are colors. In a mostly black image like the end credits of a movie it is more than noticeable, it makes the image unwatchable.
But after a while they appear less and less until, after 20 or 30 minutes, they are almost completely gone and i can watch the movie.
The problem doesn't occur with the component connection.
Are these the typical sparklies from a bad DVI cable?

thanks,
stephen

Does the new firmware fix the "left shift" problem? I dont know if this is the correct terminology but the picture seems to be off center to the left a few inches.

Also I have to cycle through the inputs back to the HDMI input for Oppo before I get a picture. Get sound, but no picture. Is this a fix for the new firmware?

I might be sending this thing back. I am not that impressed so far. I havent given up yet, but I'm geting there.

Thanx in advance for any info

Try the new fw, it is designed to fix the image shift and sync problems.

Dave

I have a new Oppo connected to an Optoma H31 with the short DVI-DVI cable that came with the Oppo. When I power up the Oppo and start a DVD i can see bright pixels of different colors rapidly appearing and disappearing in what are supposed to be dark or black areas of the image. But they are not randomly distributed like snow. They fall into short horizontal lines and are more concentrated in some areas than others. From my seat they look white but if i get close to the screen i can see they are colors. In a mostly black image like the end credits of a movie it is more than noticeable, it makes the image unwatchable.
But after a while they appear less and less until, after 20 or 30 minutes, they are almost completely gone and i can watch the movie.
The problem doesn't occur with the component connection.
Are these the typical sparklies from a bad DVI cable?

thanks,
stephen

Don't know if we have the same problem, but I see white speckles during dark scenes at 1080i & 720p only. I've ordered a new DVI cable and I'll let you know if it's indeed caused by a bad cable.

If not, according to Oppo it might be the dvd player is underpowered through the DVI output, which causes the sparkling.

With respect to the 0220fw lip sync, I watched the R2 Serenity last night (only just out in PAL land) and I had to turn the reciever's delay off to get sync--good news.

Also, because of a bit of MBE in the dark scenes I had trulife off and didn't notice any after-images which have been reported on R1 version. However, I thought I noticed a couple of instances of frame skipping fairly early in the film, which couldn't be replicated on rewinding.

Still not sure the 0220 timing is quite right--though it's a big leap forward for lip-sync and PAL viewing. I'm going to stick with it for a while longer.

BTW, the pq on this disc was amazing, especially as it comes in at well under 5GB for a two hour movie--terrific film, too; as entertaining as anything I've ever seen.

Dave

Note: This release is not an official release but an interim solution to address the DivX/MPEG-2 playback issue of the F-0220. It does not include the improvement to audio/video synchronization found in the official F-0220 release. Please do not use this version if you are not experiencing DivX/MPEG-2 playback issues, as it will negate the audio/video syncronization improvements integrated into the F-0220 firmware.

So, does that mean that the 0228 includes all of the other 0220 improvements ?

1. Improvement to DVI output timing.
3. Longer audio delay option.
4. Picture settings applied for PAL mode.
5. Longer file name display in file browsing mode.
6. Proper "Skip Prev" function for CD playback.
7. Support for DivX Video-On-Demand activation.


[edit] Never mind. It does. Just found and read the 0228 release notes. RELEASE NOTES (http://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h_firmware_0228_release_note.html)

I'm sorry to say I had to return my Oppo. Output via DVI 1080i on my LCD was extremely shakey so much so menus and words made it almost unwatchable. Lower 720p worked fine. Even the LCD in HDCP at 1080i worked ok, but the picture suffered. I installed the last firmware last night and gave up today. Tried all the angles. Tech support is one of the best I've encountered and I really hope that they'll have a new model in the future.

I'm sorry to say I had to return my Oppo. Output via DVI 1080i on my LCD was extremely shakey so much so menus and words made it almost unwatchable. Lower 720p worked fine. Even the LCD in HDCP at 1080i worked ok, but the picture suffered. I installed the last firmware last night and gave up today. Tried all the angles. Tech support is one of the best I've encountered and I really hope that they'll have a new model in the future.

Most people seem to prefer 720p (unless they had a crt) for DLPs and LCDs. Was 1080i that important for you?

Hello Fellas...

I rec'd the OPPO last week hooking it to a JVC LCoS 1080p RPTV. Works fine on component, but I can't get any sort of signal off the DVI / HDMI cable supplied (with the OPPO set to Video 1 or Video 2). Menus, video, nothing. Component does a great job, but I'm wanting the DVI out connection.. Now it could be the TV, but I have reset the HDMI ports several times on the JVC to try to make sure its not the TV....

How often are the cables provided by OPPO with the new unit bad right out of the box or am I not setting something right? I have a momitsu buryed in a stack hooked to a projector and can pull it if necc, but am hoping I'm doing something wrong. Any help would be appreciated!

Hello Fellas...

I rec'd the OPPO last week hooking it to a JVC LCoS 1080p RPTV. Works fine on component, but I can't get any sort of signal off the DVI / HDMI cable supplied (with the OPPO set to Video 1 or Video 2). Menus, video, nothing. Component does a great job, but I'm wanting the DVI out connection.. Now it could be the TV, but I have reset the HDMI ports several times on the JVC to try to make sure its not the TV....

How often are the cables provided by OPPO with the new unit bad right out of the box or am I not setting something right? I have a momitsu buryed in a stack hooked to a projector and can pull it if necc, but am hoping I'm doing something wrong. Any help would be appreciated!
The cables supplied are usually fine. One thing you can do if you haven't already is eject the oppo's tray and cycle though the DVI outputs--you might find that not all the resolutions are compatible with your display. You can only cycle through the resolutions when the DVD tray is ejected on the disc has been double stopped.

Dave

I agree with Dave. Changing the DVI output on the Oppo isn't all that intuitive, and my set for instance won't synch with the 540p signal. You have to press stop on the Oppo before pressing the DVI change button on the remote. I'm using an HP 1080p dlp and it works fine. I don't recall reading any recent posts in this thread from JVC owners, though.

You can only cycle through the resolutions when the DVD tray is ejected on the disc has been double stopped.

Dave


Thanks for the quick response Dave...

With the tray open, the OPPO did allow me to see the 540p, 720p, 1080i etc notes in the upper left corner of the screen, but only if I had the component cables hooked up. Unhook the component, I'm back to no screen.

I'm sorry to say I had to return my Oppo. Output via DVI 1080i on my LCD was extremely shakey so much so menus and words made it almost unwatchable. Lower 720p worked fine. Even the LCD in HDCP at 1080i worked ok, but the picture suffered. I installed the last firmware last night and gave up today. Tried all the angles. Tech support is one of the best I've encountered and I really hope that they'll have a new model in the future.
Why?

It's your business, and I understand that. But why return the player when it outputs a great picture that matches the resolution of your tv? I could understand it if 720p looked bad, but why return it when it fails at a resolution you wouldn't/shouldn't use anyway?

EDIT: I just got to thinking - do you have a newer 1080p LCD panel? Is that why you're zeroed in on 1080i? Even with a 1080p set, the best resolution for the Oppo to output would be 720p. That way all the deinterlacing is done in the digital domain and all that's left for your tv to do is scale it to 1080p. I've got a buddy with a 45" Sharp 1080p set, and he prefers 720p output from his dvd player for the reasons mentioned just above.

I am sorry you are returning the player - and good luck as you search for another. ;)

I agree with Dave. Changing the DVI output on the Oppo isn't all that intuitive, and my set for instance won't synch with the 540p signal. You have to press stop on the Oppo before pressing the DVI change button on the remote. I'm using an HP 1080p dlp and it works fine. I don't recall reading any recent posts in this thread from JVC owners, though.

Thanks ChargerFan...

I'll try using the stop button tonight between efforts at getting a signal. You are right, the DVI setup isn't intuitive, at least for this OPPO user.

Thanks,
Tom

NeoUrsa, I'd have to agree with justsc's sentiments.

Unless you have a VERY new LCD panel, it was 720P native anyhow, so why would you try to use 1080i... which would then make your panel downconvert to 720P needlessly?

Sorry to hear you're returning it, either way. They should be coming out with a newer player (comparable to the current one) in the fall from what I understand.

This could be a problem with the video syncronization of the display device. Ie. not fixed.

Agree!
Like jedurocher, I have the Phillips 9110, and usually need to cycle either Oppo's DVI output or TV's Inputs (doesn't seem to matter which) to get a picture.

Other than that, all is very good.

Thanks for the quick response Dave...

With the tray open, the OPPO did allow me to see the 540p, 720p, 1080i etc notes in the upper left corner of the screen, but only if I had the component cables hooked up. Unhook the component, I'm back to no screen.

I know this may sound crazy, but are you using the analog audio connection to the television as well? I know in the summer there were some problems with the JVC H-Dila series where the video would not sync to the display if the audio cables were not connected to the television unit (something to do with the unit being designed with pure HDMI ie. it looks for both a video and audio signal when the HDMI port is being used).

I also remember one user saying that he had to have a tech come over and mess with the Service Menu. Resetting through the TV through the Service Menu resolved the issue.

Also try switching to the HDMI input. Turn off the TV and the DVD player. Turn the TV back on then turn on the OPDV971H. See if that does not work as well.

Additionally, try the OPDV971H on another display device, to rule out the possibility that the DVI output on the OPDV971H is defective.

BTW, the pq on this disc was amazing, especially as it comes in at well under 5GB for a two hour movie--terrific film, too; as entertaining as anything I've ever seen.
Dave
Off topic, but you ought to check out the Firefly Series if you liked the movie. Much better than the flic since there was more character development and things make a little more sense.

I just ordered this player today. Looking forward to receiving it, based on all of the positive feedback.

Andy

i am ordering mine once my $200 rebate check from circuit city clears. i am also looking foward to getting it, based on the positive feedback.

Well just put on the 220 fw and on my hitachi 65 rptv i now have the "stutter" in the opening pan after the crawl on EPIII. What other dvds have issues witht his fw? Hmm now debating on going back to the Nov fw.

For what it's worth as reference information, I experienced "stutter" several times during pans in the opening prologue of Lord of the Rings FOTR SE with fw0220. It was there every time I watched through the sequence, rewinding it etc. The stutter might change in exact position within the pan after rewinding, but it still stuttered in those scenes. I've reverted to 1111b which has no stutter at all for me.

My display is a Sony Grand Wega IV 55" rp-lcd tv.

You may just want to use the 0228 firmware, which does not have the stuttering problem as teh 0220 firmware, but has all the other enhancements except A/V Sync. the F-0228 firmware can be accessed at the following location: F-0228 firmware (http://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h_firmware_0228_download.html)

For most displays (Sony SXRD, Panasonic PT-AE700/900U, so forth) the shifting problem is gone.


This could be a problem with the video syncronization of the display device. Ie. not fixed.

Not a problem, just an annoyance.

I have the SXRD 50 so this would fall into that catagory. Thank you.

Is there anything new that may be a problem with the new FW and the SXRD I have?

Should I be using the 720P for my SXRD? I cant really see a big difference between this and 1080i.

Thanx to all with knowledge to share.

You may just want to use the 0228 firmware, which does not have the stuttering problem as teh 0220 firmware, but has all the other enhancements except A/V Sync. the F-0228 firmware can be accessed at the following location: F-0228 firmware (http://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h_firmware_0228_download.html)

Thanks Neuromancer. In the release notes for 0228, none of the issues addressed have been issues for me, and the audio delay doesn't apply as I use the RAW format. Unless there are other fixes that aren't noted within the fw, I'm not sure what the improvement would be (for my particular case) over fw1111b. The a/v sync was something that was desirable in fw0220, as lip sync issues have occasionally been seen and would be nice to be without entirely.

I just figured on using 1111b until the stutter issues were addressed in 0220 (if ever). The pq is still stunning.

Are there other enhancements/fixes in 0228 over 1111 that aren't noted in the release notes?

Not a problem, just an annoyance.

I have the SXRD 50 so this would fall into that catagory. Thank you.

Is there anything new that may be a problem with the new FW and the SXRD I have?

Should I be using the 720P for my SXRD? I cant really see a big difference between this and 1080i.

Thanx to all with knowledge to share.

There is nothing new in the firmware that should effect the Sony SXRD. It will fix the shifting. However, if you use 1080i, you may experience combing, interlacing, and jittering errors with the new firmware. I would recommend using 720p, especially if you see no benefit using 1080i in its current state. Or, use the F-0228 firmware instead.

Thanks Neuromancer. In the release notes for 0228, none of the issues addressed have been issues for me, and the audio delay doesn't apply as I use the RAW format. Unless there are other fixes that aren't noted within the fw, I'm not sure what the improvement would be (for my particular case) over fw1111b. The a/v sync was something that was desirable in fw0220, as lip sync issues have occasionally been seen and would be nice to be without entirely.

I just figured on using 1111b until the stutter issues were addressed in 0220 (if ever). The pq is still stunning.

Are there other enhancements/fixes in 0228 over 1111 that aren't noted in the release notes?

What becomes a quandry is if the non-A/V Sync fixed firmware allows for delay through the digital outputs when using RAW. Some people who tested the 0126 firmware stated that the delay did something for them. If this is the case, then using the 0228 firmware, which lacks the A/V Sync fix, would be beneficial, as it will allow for up to 100ms worth of delay.

In all, it does not hurt you to use the 0228 firmware over the 1111B firmware.

In all, it does not hurt you to use the 0228 firmware over the 1111B firmware.

Agreed.
The 0220 F/W appeared to drop frames intermittently for the entire duration of the first feature I'd attempted to view. The anomaly was reproducible and persisted at both 1080i and 720p. (The film was R-Point, Tartan Asia Extreme)

I couldn't help but wonder if the frame dropping wasn't somehow related to the Oppo trying to concurrently process subtitles, though I've since returned the film and can't recall if it was dropping frames during scenes with no dialogue. Hmm...

0228 seems to be doing the trick, though I've had to revert back to a 100ms delay and not all 1:85 anamorphic discs completely fill the display. (This may be a disc encoding issue, however the uneven letterbox bars seem to indicate a lingering downward shift issue with the Panny plasmas)

One should admire Oppo Digital for producing an interim firmware so quickly.

Peter

One should admire Oppo Digital for producing an interim firmware so quickly.

I'll second that !

I know I'm preaching to the choir, but OPPO is just amazing.

I'm almost dumb founded at some of the OPPO bashing that takes place in other threads.

Other DVD player manufacturers could learn a thing or two from OPPO's customer commitment.

Kudos to Jin Pi and the other fine folks at OPPO Digital.

:D

are you using the analog audio connection to the television as well? it looks for both a video and audio signal when the HDMI port is being used).

Also try switching to the HDMI input. Turn off the TV and the DVD player. Turn the TV back on then turn on the OPDV971H. See if that does not work as well.

Additionally, try the OPDV971H on another display device, to rule out the possibility that the DVI output on the OPDV971H is defective.


Thank you for your ideas Neuromancer...

I don't have the analog audio running to the JVC and have not tried to turn things off as you suggest. I think the analog audio is going to do it. It sounds just like the sort of odd thing I would be needing to do and not have thought of.

Thanks,
Tom

I bought the Oppo OPDV971H based of info I've read in this forum and all I can say is ,Thanks!!! It's not to often when I purchase something and it lives up to all expectations.Now I'm not qualified to say that it's the best DVD player you can buy but I'd bet you'd be hard pressed to find one that works as well with an advertised retail price of 200 bucks!!! Worth every penny in my book!

Hi

just wanted to provide the PAL-users out there with some hopefully valuable information.

Tonight, I installed Oppos latest 0220 Firmware and despite the proper settings (video2, all Faroudja enhancements off, PAL), deinterlacing showed problems!
I ran the PAL-version of "Brothers Grimm", and on fast moves, I could easily see deinterlacing zigzag lines!

So I reverted back to a European Firmware ("1226") programmed by BBK and available here:

http://www.livingcinema.nl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=38

This firmware in my case and with my PAL DVDs showed a clearly better PAL-picture with no deinterlacing-problems. Also, this firmware has german language and subtitle options in the setup-menue, and furthermore, you can toggle your component outputs to either YUV or RGB (just in case, you run a small TV additionally to your PJ)
At the moment, my 2Cents are: I strongly recommend trying the BBK-Firmware for European (PAL) users of the Oppo 971H

I bought the Oppo OPDV971H based of info I've read in this forum and all I can say is ,Thanks!!! It's not to often when I purchase something and it lives up to all expectations.Now I'm not qualified to say that it's the best DVD player you can buy but I'd bet you'd be hard pressed to find one that works as well with an advertised retail price of 200 bucks!!! Worth every penny in my book!

Welcome to the club. There will always be better products, it always comes down to how much are you willing to spend. For 200 dollars, you will be hard pressed to find a better unit.

First post updated with firmware location, beta "choppy" video firmware location, updated owner's manual.

Paul

I watched that scene on my computer and it stutterd there also.It's probably a problem with the disk.That appears to be the only flaw that I can see.

The stutter appears at the tail end of section of the film with alternate angle material for the openning crawl (for the French and Spanish versions). The transition, even if the angle hasn't changed, seems to be giving the Oppo a hard time. Strangely enough, I can't seem to turn the angle icon with the settings menu off on my unit. Perhaps it's the Russian firmware?

jd

My new unit just received from Surfaudio is going back to Oppo. The colors with dvi are out of whack, either with Plasma or my Sony HDTV-RPTV display. Oppo's CS was quick to point out the issue was with the DVI circuitry.
Disappointed to say the least. I'll give it one more chance. Otherwise I will have to keep my Denon 2900 a tad longer.

I keep the OPPO set to 720p unless I am watching a film that is native 4:3. I keep the player set to "Wide" and then zoom the image with the Sony RP LCD's control...It has always worked perfectly. Now with the 0220 firmware, the 480p mode does not display an image in either "Wide" or the "Wide/Sqz" modes.

I got it to pop up a couple of times, but it was very intermittant. 540p, 720p and 1080i are all solid and consistent.

Any thoughts on this?

-Toonces.... :eek:

I reverted to the 1022 D firmware and everything returned to normal...but I think the above may be a genuine bug in the 0220 firmware.

I have never had a sync problem, so I am happy to stick with the 1022 D version.

-Toonces... :D

Hi

just wanted to provide the PAL-users out there with some hopefully valuable information.

Tonight, I installed Oppos latest 0220 Firmware and despite the proper settings (video2, all Faroudja enhancements off, PAL), deinterlacing showed problems!
I ran the PAL-version of "Brothers Grimm", and on fast moves, I could easily see deinterlacing zigzag lines!

So I reverted back to a European Firmware ("1226") programmed by BBK and available here:

http://www.livingcinema.nl/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=38

This firmware in my case and with my PAL DVDs showed a clearly better PAL-picture with no deinterlacing-problems. Also, this firmware has german language and subtitle options in the setup-menue, and furthermore, you can toggle your component outputs to either YUV or RGB (just in case, you run a small TV additionally to your PJ)
At the moment, my 2Cents are: I strongly recommend trying the BBK-Firmware for European (PAL) users of the Oppo 971H

The problem with the 1226 firmware is that it does not have the PAL syncronization fix. On many displays, at PAL, the OPDV971H will be shown as a 60Hz image. This will cause major tearing for most people.

Alternatively, have you tried the 0228 firmware to see if your error wasn't part of the reported A/V Sync issues?

I keep the OPPO set to 720p unless I am watching a film that is native 4:3. I keep the player set to "Wide" and then zoom the image with the Sony RP LCD's control...It has always worked perfectly. Now with the 0220 firmware, the 480p mode does not display an image in either "Wide" or the "Wide/Sqz" modes.

I got it to pop up a couple of times, but it was very intermittant. 540p, 720p and 1080i are all solid and consistent.

Any thoughts on this?

-Toonces.... :eek:

Did you try the 0228 firmware?

Don't know if we have the same problem, but I see white speckles during dark scenes at 1080i & 720p only. I've ordered a new DVI cable and I'll let you know if it's indeed caused by a bad cable.

If not, according to Oppo it might be the dvd player is underpowered through the DVI output, which causes the sparkling.

Thanks for the response, fourizonly.
Two weird things in my situation are I'm only feeding 480p and the problem almost completely goes away after a while.

Did you try the 0228 firmware?

Nope...I'll just stick with the 1022 until the next release. It really does work fine for me in every respect. If I was unhappy with it I would I would give the 0228 a shot, but as it is now I can just wait for a permanent fix... ;)

-Toonces

Thanks for the response, fourizonly.
Two weird things in my situation are I'm only feeding 480p and the problem almost completely goes away after a while.
Tried the new DVI cable and now it's not in the form of speckles but 2" horizontal lines. I'm still awaiting Oppo's answer.

Off topic, but you ought to check out the Firefly Series if you liked the movie. Much better than the flic since there was more character development and things make a little more sense.

Still off topic: Watched it, loved it--looked great projected from the oppo too!

The problem with the 1226 firmware is that it does not have the PAL syncronization fix. On many displays, at PAL, the OPDV971H will be shown as a 60Hz image. This will cause major tearing for most people.

Alternatively, have you tried the 0228 firmware to see if your error wasn't part of the reported A/V Sync issues?

Hi Neuromancer

You are always a great source of reliable information - thanks!!!!
With my Sanyo Z4, the BBK 1226 firmware perfectly does PAL @ 50 Hz, that's why I reverted back to it.
I informed Oppo service about my findings, and they immediately answered back (same info as yours):
Please try using the F-0228 firmware. There are some cases in which the new A/V sync fix will cause an error in the decoding of a film. You can access the F-0228 firmware at the following location:
http://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h_firmware_0228_download.html
I will have a try with that firmware as well and report back...

Still off topic: Watched it, loved it--looked great projected from the oppo too!
One last off topic: Gotta rewatch it then. :D

I know this may sound crazy, but are you using the analog audio connection to the JVC television as well?

Neuromancer... You da man!
How you remember this stuff on units you don't even own is beyond me. Even though I am using the digital out to a receiver, the JVC did require an analog audio from the OPPO if the HDMI port is used. Once this was connected, the DVI / HDMI connection worked!

Thanks,
Tom

are the refurbished units just as good? do they come with the new remote? the new units are on back order and i can't wait until March 15 for the next shipment.

First post updated with firmware location, beta "choppy" video firmware location, updated owner's manual.

Paul

Thank you Paul. This thread has been unbelievably helpful!

Best Regards,
Tom

Neuromancer... You da man!
How you remember this stuff on units you don't even own is beyond me. Even though I am using the digital out to a receiver, the JVC did require an analog audio from the OPPO if the HDMI port is used. Once this was connected, the DVI / HDMI connection worked!

Thanks,
Tom

I have a penchant for remembering rather useless information. Lucky you!

With my Sanyo Z4, the BBK 1226 firmware perfectly does PAL @ 50 Hz, that's why I reverted back to it.

Ahh, if you are using the Sanyo Z4, then, yeah, there really is no real difference from the BBK 1226 firmware and the US F-0228 firmware. The only advantage of the US firmware is that the scrolling text is now 64 characters (but oh so godly slow) and the delay settings are in 10ms intervals up to 100ms. However, because you will be primarily using PAL, 20ms intervals is actually advantageous (based on the way PAL syncronization works).

are the refurbished units just as good? do they come with the new remote? the new units are on back order and i can't wait until March 15 for the next shipment.

Refurbished units ship with the new remote control.

And along those lines, it looks like even Amazon.com is out of stock at the moment. Though, I heard from OPPO that one of the reasons OPPO itself is out of stock is because of the Amazon.com ordering a massive quantity of new units. They said the first units should start to appear tomorrow, then two or three days afterwords for their East Coast warehouses.

Just ordered a Pio 5060 plasma and plan to order the OPPO as soon as I have a ship date for the Pio (so the OPPO won't be sitting around in a box during the 30-day return period). Is there a new model out? I had planned to buy a refurb and save a few bux.

Just ordered a Pio 5060 plasma and plan to order the OPPO as soon as I have a ship date for the Pio (so the OPPO won't be sitting around in a box during the 30-day return period). Is there a new model out? I had planned to buy a refurb and save a few bux.

There is a planned new HDMI model to come out somtime in April. However, this is being designed more as a sister product than a replacement. As such, it will not have the Faroudja chipset (ie. it will not be as good for de-interlacing) but it will pass 480i/576i, which is good for users with external scalers or display devices with great internal scaling.

Refurbished units ship with the new remote control.

And along those lines, it looks like even Amazon.com is out of stock at the moment. Though, I heard from OPPO that one of the reasons OPPO itself is out of stock is because of the Amazon.com ordering a massive quantity of new units. They said the first units should start to appear tomorrow, then two or three days afterwords for their East Coast warehouses.

I went ahead and ordered the refurbished oppo. i also bought star wars 3 with my best buy gift card. now the waiting begins.

I found a problem with the new Russian firmware. I just got a new DVD from HK called "The Great Yokai War" (Japanese movie, HK release). When I selected to turn on English subtitles I would get only Chinese subtitles. There are 3 different sub tracks on the disc, but no matter which I selected I only got Chinese. Reverting back to the official firmware fixed the problem.

Early this morning I sent OPPO Support the following:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: A Possible Bug in the 0220 Firmware Release...
From: "Toonces T. Cat" <toonces@rgv.rr.com>
Date: Thu, March 02, 2006 7:00 am
To: service@oppodigital.com
Cc: "Toonces T. Cat" <toonces@rgv.rr.com>

Good Morning!

Two nights ago I installed the 0220 firmware update...All seemed well at
the time. I was able to reset all of controls and I successfully tested the
971 with both NTSC and PAL discs.

Last night I popped in a non-anamorphic LBX title and all was not well...:-(

I have the OPPO connected to a Sony Grand Wega II 50" LCD Rear Projector
using a DVI to DVI connection. My normal settings on the 971 are "Wide"
mode and 720p. I find that the "Wide/Sqz" mode significantly reduces
resolution with 4:3 material, so I leave the player in the "Wide" mode and
use the 480p setting and then zoom the image to fill the screen with the
Sony's controls...The result is an excellent picture even with
non-anamorphic discs.

Last night, however, I discovered that following the update to the 0220
firmware, the 480p would not display on the monitor in either the "Wide" or
the "Wide/Sqz" modes. Cycling through the 971's resolution settings several
times, I did manage to get 480p to pop up a couple of times, but it was
very unstable and would not be available if I cycled through the settings
again. 540p, 720p, and 1080i were all working just fine and seemed very stable.

I did not try the 0228 firmware as this does not sound anything like the
"choppy video" problem you describe on your website. I did revert to the
1022-D firmware and everything returned to its previous state and worked
fine. I would like to have the benefits of the improved A/V timing, but not
at the cost of losing my 480p image in the "Wide" mode.

Just thought y'all should know about this possible bug in the 0220 firmware.

Thanks!

To which OPPO Support replied:

Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:50:07 -0700
From: service@oppodigital.com
Subject: RE: A Possible Bug in the 0220 Firmware Release...
X-Originating-IP: 67.121.66.205
To: "Toonces T. Cat" <toonces@rgv.rr.com>
Original-recipient: rfc822;toonces@rgv.rr.com

Steve,

Because we have not been able to verify anything beyond the "choppy
video" playback issues in house, we can't explicitly label further
problems as being "known issues". However, based on the mechanics which
are designed to keep the video and audio in sync in the F-0220 firmware,
it would not be surprising if the removal of such a mechanic will cause
all ill effects to be removed. As such, we advise all users who
experience disastrous DVD playback to try the interim F-0228 firmware,
as it lacks the feature which was causing the DivX/MPEG-2 errors, and
is the likely culprit for DVD errors as well.

In the case of 480p this can be something related to the new pixel
clocking timings in the new firmware. All previous firmware had timings
which were slightly off. Because the pixel timing was re-aligned into
specifications, it could cause ill effects at certain resolutions.
However, we have not seen any error associated to 480p playback. It
would be greatly appreciated if you can try the F-0228 firmware, to see
if the same issue persists, as it will allow us to determine what part
of the new firmware mechanics is causing your problem.

Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
453 Ravendale Dr, Suite D
Mountain View, CA 94043
Service@oppodigital.com
Tel: 650-961-1118
Fax: 650-961-1119

Since receiving their reply, I updated to the 0228 firmware...The 480p mode, however, was still completely missing in my set-up. I then reverted, once again, to the 1022 D and everything returned to normal.

-Toonces... :eek:

I went ahead and ordered the refurbished oppo. i also bought star wars 3 with my best buy gift card. now the waiting begins.

I have had a refurb unit for over a month. No problems, and none should be expected relative to a new unit, IMO, especially given Oppo's level of customer service, etc.

Doug

I have had a refurb unit for over a month. No problems, and none should be expected relative to a new unit, IMO, especially given Oppo's level of customer service, etc.

Doug

And even if you ran into a problem, they will be there to solve it as quickly as possible. For a 40 dollar difference in price, it is hard to pass up.

Refurbished units ship with the new remote control.

And along those lines, it looks like even Amazon.com is out of stock at the moment. Though, I heard from OPPO that one of the reasons OPPO itself is out of stock is because of the Amazon.com ordering a massive quantity of new units. They said the first units should start to appear tomorrow, then two or three days afterwords for their East Coast warehouses.

Where can a refurb be purchased? I recall some getting them from the Ebay store, once upon a time.

Update- My bad, I guess I could have just gone there and looked again...lol.

Because OPPO is out of stock, they have placed their Refurbished OPDV971Hs (http://www.oppodigital.com/proddetail.asp?prod=ZOPDV971H) on their store front. eBay also has units as well.

Because OPPO is out of stock, they have placed their Refurbished OPDV971Hs (http://www.oppodigital.com/proddetail.asp?prod=ZOPDV971H) on their store front. eBay also has units as well.

Just ordered me one for the bedroom, what the heck, save a few bucks and get the same warranty.

Just ordered me one for the bedroom, what the heck, save a few bucks and get the same warranty.

That's the spirit!

In my knowledge, there's only SAGE/Genesis FLI2XXX chip could perform Faroudja DCDi function.
However, I didn't find FLI2XXX chip in OPPO DV971H.
Instead, video chips in DV971H are MTK1389 108MHz/12bit & CS4955 54MHz/12bit.

I'm confused, when OPPO claims that DV971H has DCDi, Which chip could provide such function when there's no Genesis FLI2XXX chip inside???!!!

In my knowledge, there's only SAGE/Genesis FLI2XXX chip could perform Faroudja DCDi function.
However, I didn't find FLI2XXX chip in OPPO DV971H.
Instead, video chips in DV971H are MTK1389 108MHz/12bit & CS4955 54MHz/12bit.

I'm confused, when OPPO claims that DV971H has DCDi, Which chip could provide such function when there's no Genesis FLI2XXX chip inside???!!!

Those are the D/A converters for video. Are you looking in the right place?

Mark

In my knowledge, there's only SAGE/Genesis FLI2XXX chip could perform Faroudja DCDi function.
However, I didn't find FLI2XXX chip in OPPO DV971H.
Instead, video chips in DV971H are MTK1389 108MHz/12bit & CS4955 54MHz/12bit.

I'm confused, when OPPO claims that DV971H has DCDi, Which chip could provide such function when there's no Genesis FLI2XXX chip inside???!!!
Sounds like you're only looking at the mainboard. The FLI2310 chip is on the DVI output board. The picture of the internals in the Audioholics review seems to show it dead center on the DVI board, although it's tough to make out the markings on the chip.

In my knowledge, there's only SAGE/Genesis FLI2XXX chip could perform Faroudja DCDi function.
However, I didn't find FLI2XXX chip in OPPO DV971H.
Instead, video chips in DV971H are MTK1389 108MHz/12bit & CS4955 54MHz/12bit.

I'm confused, when OPPO claims that DV971H has DCDi, Which chip could provide such function when there's no Genesis FLI2XXX chip inside???!!!

The FLI2310 chipset is the one on the small daughter board on the right of the MTK1389 mainboard. This board is also where the DVI output is located.

Even without looking inside the player you know it has faroudja inside because of the TrueLife and Cross Color Suppressor (CCS) options. Those are faroudja only technologys. If the faroudja chip wasn't in there, you wouldn't have those options.

A few week ago there were concerned posts about ghosting/after-images if truelife was left off--as though some NR was always on unless truelife was on.

Does anybody know if this has been silently fixed in the 0220/0228 firmwares?

Though I was seeing it with the 1226 firmware I've played the same discs again and with truelife off there is no longer any ghosting/smearing which would suggest NR. Also, the screen saver no longer leaves after images.

Anybody else noticed this?

BTW, I've changed to the 0228 fw as I was getting too many dropped frames even some de-intelacing errors with 0220--just one more step, oppo!.

Dave

If anyone has read the Mar/Apr issue of "The Pefect Vision" mag you no doubt have seen they scored the Oppo 55 out of 100...oh and they gave a $30 Cyberhome DVD player almost the same score.....crazy! I sent them this letter....

Editor;
I was greatly disappointed by the review of the Oppo DV971H DVD player in the Mar/Apr DVD Buyer's Guide Plus.
Firstly, in the introduction to Oppo Digital the author correctly wrote that the buzz on the internet said its only a so-so audio player, but something of a 'giant killer' as a video player. Turning over a few pages to the actual review, the author seems to suggest the exact opposite to what everyone on the internet thinks....the player is 'crisp and articulate, with a hint of the soundstaging that audiophiles lust after'..!!!!...what??...lol....
The author then found the players video performance 'good but not exceptional' via component and 'worse' via HDMI....again exactly opposite to the huge buzz on the internet about this Dvd players VIDEO performance!!
I'm wondering if the author got a defective unit? Perhaps the flaws are in the Vizio plasma monitor? This player connecter to my Samsung 50" HLP5063W DLP (a display I purchased after reading your great review in Issue # 56) via DVI outputting at 720p (giving exact 1:1 pixel mapping) provides a fantastic picture. Its performance at 720p via DVI is what has made this player so talked about on the internet!
The authors said they used the HQV Benchmark DVD in the Buyer's Guide DVD survey...this disc was developed in conjunction with leading reviewer's and Home Theater publications including 'Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity' who score the Oppo an average of 96 out of 100 in the following 2005 DVD player shootout....
http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=124
In comparison, your magazine only gave the Oppo a score of about 55 out of 100.....
I'd like to see a more accurate, full blown in-depth review of the Oppo player in a future issue please?
I attended the Toshiba HD DVD roadshow in Sunnyvale, California on March 1st. They showed a High Def clip from 'The 40 yr Old Virgin' on a giant 70" Hi Def Toshiba HDTV which looked great...when I got home I watched the same clip played back on the Oppo on my 50" Samsung and the clip looked almost as good.
Your doing your readers a disservice by not highlighting the incredible value and picture quality of the Oppo when set up correctly with the right display....and no, I do not work for Oppo!!
One other point, can you give more detailed info on the audio/video qualities of the DVD's you review? I've noticed a whole half page will be dedicated to a review of the actual movie itself, and then maybe 1 or 2 sentences detailing the tech aspects of the disc itself. I'm guessing most people already probably have a basic idea of the storyline of most new DVD releases- I think a lot of readers would like technical, detailed reviews of the discs themselves....
Thanks, love your mag- keep up the good work!...would love to see the mag come out monthly- any chance of that?
-Hugh Sinnott, subscriber (pls do not publish my name- thx)

I must have ordered one of the last new units in stock, it's going to be here on Monday :) However, I wish I had seen the refurb option, I would have ordered it and saved a few $$$

Because OPPO is out of stock, they have placed their Refurbished OPDV971Hs on their store front. eBay also has units as well.

[QUOTE=hsinnott]If anyone has read the Mar/Apr issue of "The Pefect Vision" mag you no doubt have seen they scored the Oppo 55 out of 100...oh and they gave a $30 Cyberhome DVD player almost the same score.....crazy! I sent them this letter....

You didn't even ask why it was priced at $249 instead of $199, making it even a greater value. But I did when I wrote them. You certainly covered most everything else. :)

Hoped this is not a re-post. At Amazon site, OPPO is OOS also, or well... it reads "Currently Unavailable". SurfAudio still has the units available (you should call them first) where I ordered mine lastweek.
My last post couple of days ago, reported a bad defective unit which now I hope, turning out to be a defective dvi-hdmi cable. Still in testing as this writing, so a bit too premature to make a final conviction on the Oppo. Played various sources last night on my 42" Akai HDTV Plasma, using 1080i source. Star War R.O.T.S looks great for the most part, Spiderman looks okay though not quite as good as S.W.R.O.T.S..
Will play a few more over the weekend to rule out the possibility of a bad unit. Oppo's CS and I are keeping fingers crossed. :)

[QUOTE=hsinnott]If anyone has read the Mar/Apr issue of "The Pefect Vision" mag you no doubt have seen they scored the Oppo 55 out of 100...oh and they gave a $30 Cyberhome DVD player almost the same score.....crazy! I sent them this letter....

You didn't even ask why it was priced at $249 instead of $199, making it even a greater value. But I did when I wrote them. You certainly covered most everything else. :)

PV mag will have an earful from the Oppo worshippers.... :D

Ahh, if you are using the Sanyo Z4, then, yeah, there really is no real difference from the BBK 1226 firmware and the US F-0228 firmware. The only advantage of the US firmware is that the scrolling text is now 64 characters (but oh so godly slow) and the delay settings are in 10ms intervals up to 100ms. However, because you will be primarily using PAL, 20ms intervals is actually advantageous (based on the way PAL syncronization works).

Hi (&thanks)

as you suggested earlier, I tried out the US F-0228 and it worked as fine as the BBK 1226... No more deinterlacing problems as with the US F-0220.
And as of delay settings: I do not use them at all, since I go digitally to my DENON 4306 and adjust lipsync there (up to 200ms in 1ms intervals...)

BTW: is there anything still missing in the US-Firmwares regarding PAL or is the current 0220/0228 the solution for all PAL-related issues? Are the BBK-firmwares (as far as you know) any different in that regard (besides the RGB/YUV toggle)?

<snip>
The author then found the players video performance 'good but not exceptional' via component and 'worse' via HDMI....again exactly opposite to the huge buzz on the internet about this Dvd players VIDEO performance!!
<snip>


It didn't help that the reviewer did not figure out how to change resolution for the DVI output (apparently trying to change it while a disc was playing) and apparently didn't bother researching it further. IIRC, his review was limited to 480p on the DVI connection (correct me if I remember this wrong).

Doug

It didn't help that the reviewer did not figure out how to change resolution for the DVI output (apparently trying to change it while a disc was playing) and apparently didn't bother researching it further. IIRC, his review was limited to 480p on the DVI connection (correct me if I remember this wrong).

Doug

:rolleyes:

And there are consumers trust this "specialist" !

They is ashamed!

To write an analysis in a specialized reviews and not to be able to read a user's manual to be able used the DVD player with its full potential !

I can imagine how its display must be calibrated !

[QUOTE=hsinnott]If anyone has read the Mar/Apr issue of "The Pefect Vision" mag you no doubt have seen they scored the Oppo 55 out of 100...oh and they gave a $30 Cyberhome DVD player almost the same score.....crazy! I sent them this letter....

You didn't even ask why it was priced at $249 instead of $199, making it even a greater value. But I did when I wrote them. You certainly covered most everything else. :)

Amazon flops back and forth between listing the oppo at $199 and on-sale for $199 marked down from $249. I suspect that is how they price it in the article at $249.

[QUOTE=videoaddikt]

Amazon flops back and forth between listing the oppo at $199 and on-sale for $199 marked down from $249. I suspect that is how they price it in the article at $249.

I only go by the price at Oppo Digital. Forget the middle-man. Oppo has been selling it for $199 for several months now. And now with refurbs selling from Oppo for $160 with the same warranty, it's really a bargain!!

I'm having audio problems using my Oppo connected via HDMI to a Pioneer VSX-72TXV.

As we all know the Oppo only has DVI out, so I'm using a DVI-HDMI cable in order to connect the video. Then I'm using the optical out on the Oppo to the Pioneer. The problem I'm having is that (I think) the Pio assumes audio is coming in via HDMI and I cannot change the audio input to Optical - 1. Video works great, so no problem there.

Anyone else have this problem and a workaround. I imagine that this issue relates to many HDMI receivers and not just mine.

The only thing that's seemed to work so far is to hook up the Oppo to the TV's HDMI and the Oppo Optical out to the Pio, but that creates more input selections and is 'messier' than I'd prefer... where's the one cable promise of HDMI when you need it! :)

If anyone has read the Mar/Apr issue of "The Pefect Vision" mag you no doubt have seen they scored the Oppo 55 out of 100...oh and they gave a $30 Cyberhome DVD player almost the same score.....crazy! I sent them this letter....

The author is a hack and the article barely worthy of being toilet paper if printed.

There is another thread in the forum where the author is trying to champion the "HDMI has no benefits" debate. "...zzzzzzzzzzz" (-)(-)

At some point you just have to recognize the "agenda" and completely dismiss such threads and referenced journalistic doodoo.

Is the OPPO perfect for everyone? No. But it's an amazing and cost effective alternative, to a huge majority of owners, on a wide range of displays.

I could afford any DVD player I want, and the only player I would buy over the OPPO is the Denon 5910. And even this is not because of what the OPPO does poorly, but rather because of what the 5910 does with noise reduction.

I would love to hear any response you receive from your letter.

Darth, it sounds like Pioneer (and probably many others) has dedicated the HDMI connection for a specific setup.
Is there a way you can use a different mode...instead of DVD? Maybe an auxilliary mode that will take any input including Optical 1?

I can understand your liking the 5910. But with the advent of HD DVD players on the horizon, I would not invest too much into a standard DVD player. The 1920 is actually a nice economical bump up, with better audio. But the Oppo will do me too, and quite well at that.

The author is a hack and the article barely worthy of being toilet paper if printed.

There is another thread in the forum where the author is trying to champion the "HDMI has no benefits" debate. "...zzzzzzzzzzz" (-)(-)

At some point you just have to recognize the "agenda" and completely dismiss such threads and referenced journalistic doodoo.

Is the OPPO perfect for everyone? No. But it's an amazing and cost effective alternative, to a huge majority of owners, on a wide range of displays.

I could afford any DVD player I want, and the only player I would buy over the OPPO is the Denon 5910. And even this is not because of what the OPPO does poorly, but rather because of what the 5910 does with noise reduction.

I would love to hear any response you receive from your letter.

Furthermore, the Vizio isn't that great of a display, and without being able to send 720p, the OPPO wasn't matched well.

Also, if you read, it appears that the display was "precalibrated" and then there were no adjustments done from player to player, which is another dead giveaway to the quality of the review.

It doesn't bother me that the OPPO isn't trumpeted as the best in the pack, but to read a "professional" review that states clearly that the component output of the OPPO is superior to the DVI output is disconcerting at best. . . just plain wrong.

Wes

as you suggested earlier, I tried out the US F-0228 and it worked as fine as the BBK 1226... No more deinterlacing problems as with the US F-0220.

As assumed. Likely all instances of interlacing/combing are due to the A/V sync measures.

BTW: is there anything still missing in the US-Firmwares regarding PAL or is the current 0220/0228 the solution for all PAL-related issues? Are the BBK-firmwares (as far as you know) any different in that regard (besides the RGB/YUV toggle)?

The only other difference is the Q-Play button does not work. As far as everything else is concerned, I am not aware of any changes over the 1226 firmware other than the ones I noted previously.

As we all know the Oppo only has DVI out, so I'm using a DVI-HDMI cable in order to connect the video. Then I'm using the optical out on the Oppo to the Pioneer. The problem I'm having is that (I think) the Pio assumes audio is coming in via HDMI and I cannot change the audio input to Optical - 1. Video works great, so no problem there.

If the Pioneer VSX-72TXV is anything like its younger cousins, then you will want to do this.

Press Receiver
Press Setup.
Select 6. Input Settings.
Select the input function you want to change. In this case, DVD/LD
Change the HDMI In to your desired input.
Change the Digital In to your desired input.
Exit the setup.
Ensure all the cables are properly seated and try again.

Folks,

I'm running the 0228 FW because of the jerky playback I got with the 0220. Went in last night to do a calibration. (I had had the brightness and contrast set at 0 on oppo, when I reloaded the FW and left there for a couple of nites.

First, I have a Toshiba, 65HX93 RP-CRT. I used both Get Grey Calibration DVD and the Avia Consumer calibration DVD. My black level on TV seems to float, i.e it get influenced by the average picture level on the screen.

I used the Get Grey DVD first to set the oppo, making sure I was able to pass BTB and peak whites. (this is actually main point of this post).

In order to get BTB bars to show up I used the dark screen on Get Grey with the 5 black bars. I had to increase brightness on OPP to +1 in order to pass BTB. at 0 on OPPO, the black than black bars would not appear regardless of how high I set the brightness on the TV. It looks like the blacks below 16 are getting clipped by OPPO at brightness = 0.

I did a similar test using the white bars on Get Grey. In order to see the peak whites, I had to reduce contrast on OPPO to -1. At any higher setting, the whites above 235 would get clipped.

After doing this, I set brightness, contrast, color and tint on the Television with Get Grey. I used AVIA to fine tune all the settings.

Just thought I'd post this for those that need to pass BTB and peak whites. You should check your settings using a some BTB bars. Someone in either this thread, or the other OPPO thread posted a jpeg with the BTB and pk. white bars a while back.

I know OPPO has been back and forth getting these set correctly at default, I'm not suggesting they need to change anything, just reporting what I need to set on OPPO to calibrate my Toshiba TV. I'm doing this calibration at 1080i setting on OPPO via DVI.

Thanks,
Rick

Folks,

I'm running the 0228 FW because of the jerky playback I got with the 0220. Went in last night to do a calibration. (I had had the brightness and contrast set at 0 on oppo, when I reloaded the FW and left there for a couple of nites.

First, I have a Toshiba, 65HX93 RP-CRT. I used both Get Grey Calibration DVD and the Avia Consumer calibration DVD. My black level on TV seems to float, i.e it get influenced by the average picture level on the screen.

I used the Get Grey DVD first to set the oppo, making sure I was able to pass BTB and peak whites. (this is actually main point of this post).

In order to get BTB bars to show up I used the dark screen on Get Grey with the 5 black bars. I had to increase brightness on OPP to +1 in order to pass BTB. at 0 on OPPO, the black than black bars would not appear regardless of how high I set the brightness on the TV. It looks like the blacks below 16 are getting clipped by OPPO at brightness = 0.

I did a similar test using the white bars on Get Grey. In order to see the peak whites, I had to reduce contrast on OPPO to -1. At any higher setting, the whites above 235 would get clipped.

After doing this, I set brightness, contrast, color and tint on the Television with Get Grey. I used AVIA to fine tune all the settings.

Just thought I'd post this for those that need to pass BTB and peak whites. You should check your settings using a some BTB bars. Someone in either this thread, or the other OPPO thread posted a jpeg with the BTB and pk. white bars a while back.

I know OPPO has been back and forth getting these set correctly at default, I'm not suggesting they need to change anything, just reporting what I need to set on OPPO to calibrate my Toshiba TV. I'm doing this calibration at 1080i setting on OPPO via DVI.

Thanks,
Rick


Off topic, but glad you posted this. When using that calibration disc, does the patterns "flicker" on you. I have burned that disc so many different ways and still the patterns flicker, as they start over, so at "0:00". Doesn't do this on the other calibration discs.

Mine flickers too. Have you pinged GetGray et al. about it? I burned it on a powerbook g4, dvd-r media (memorex 4x), using 1x speed. when it resets to 00:00 it jumps.

If I pause, then it'll freeze and not jump.

jeff

Off topic, but glad you posted this. When using that calibration disc, does the patterns "flicker" on you. I have burned that disc so many different ways and still the patterns flicker, as they start over, so at "0:00". Doesn't do this on the other calibration discs.

Some of the patterns flicker, but not as much as they did with the Get Grey 5.x Beta. Load tha production release 1.1. reduces a lot of the flicker.

Rick

I'm running the production release 1.1, downloaded and burned yesterday.

Best,
jeff

If the Pioneer VSX-72TXV is anything like its younger cousins, then you will want to do this.

Press Receiver
Press Setup.
Select 6. Input Settings.
Select the input function you want to change. In this case, DVD/LD
Change the HDMI In to your desired input.
Change the Digital In to your desired input.
Exit the setup.
Ensure all the cables are properly seated and try again.

Neuromancer,
I tried it that way already, but just to make sure I didn't slip up somewhere I'll give it another go. Your breakdown makes sense, so I'll let you know how it goes.

videoaddikt, thanks for the feedback. I'm not eager to go out and re-purchase all my DVD's again in either HD or Blu-Ray at this point (Except for Star Wars, hehe) so this DVD player will suit me fine for awhile as well.

Neuromancer,
I tried it that way already, but just to make sure I didn't slip up somewhere I'll give it another go. Your breakdown makes sense, so I'll let you know how it goes.

Hopefully that will work. I doubt Pioneer would have designed their Elite flagship unit to now allow for external digital audio when using the HDMI input.

I'm running the production release 1.1, downloaded and burned yesterday.

Best,
jeff

I hate to go off topic, but I suppose it is related to Oppo. I did finally get 1.1 and it still flickers as the chapter/test restarts, which seems to be every couple seconds, depending on the test. I did bring this up in the Get Grey thread and they thought it wasn't right, but was thinking it was more the media or what I used to burn the disc, than it was the player. They said it is works fine for them. I also can say that my 'soon to be gone' bedroom player (neuneo) didn't display this issue.

I have been using Ver. 1020 since i got my oppo...i tried 1111b but got the left shift with my Hitachi Ultravision. I've been watching this forum listening to the "judder" talk about the new firmware so i downloaded both Ver. 0220 and 0228 today.

Using SW EPIII and watching the opening at least 5 times with every version and switching between the versions 3 times each, here is what i get with the three different firmware versions. Ver. 1020….If i pop in the disc and let it run through by itself to the root menu then select "play move" from the menu i get NO judder on the "a long time ago..." text or on the flare panning down to the ship...NONE. If i fast forward to or go back to those spots i DO get the judder. With Ver. 0220 i get 4 judders on the text no matter what, and from 4 to 6 on the flair. With Ver. 0228 i get random amounts of judder on the text...from 1 to 4...and the flair is as bad as Ver. 0220. So without any intervention on my part Ver. 1020 plays flawlessly.

Now the glitch....During my tests i would eject the tray, close the tray and wait for the options to "resume by pressing select" or "play from the beginning by pressing any other key". Well with versions 0220 and 0228 it would only resume where i had opened the tray if i pressed the Play/Pause button. With 1020 it worked as it should and played from the beginning. I'm using the older black remote by the way.

I hate to go off topic, but I suppose it is related to Oppo. I did finally get 1.1 and it still flickers as the chapter/test restarts, which seems to be every couple seconds, depending on the test. I did bring this up in the Get Grey thread and they thought it wasn't right, but was thinking it was more the media or what I used to burn the disc, than it was the player. They said it is works fine for them. I also can say that my 'soon to be gone' bedroom player (neuneo) didn't display this issue.

We should probably take this to the get grey thread. though there's not much else to say. The general respoonse i got was that it wasnt designed for CRT's. (which I knew). Ill check over there for any response though, rather than clutter up this thread
.

Rick

We should probably take this to the get grey thread. though there's not much else to say. The general respoonse i got was that it wasnt designed for CRT's. (which I knew). Ill check over there for any response though, rather than clutter up this thread
.

Rick

I have taken it there. They didn't have a reason for it. I just brought it up here, just to get another Oppo users opinion and experience.

Thanks.