I have a benq pe7700 (native 720p) so I have set the oppo to wide not wide sqz is this correct or should I be using wide sqz.

Also how do you know what the optimum LPCM setting is?

Thanks guys

I don't have a benq pe7700 ( I have a Tosh RP-CRT). But I have mine set to wide squeeze. Some here report too much resolution loss for 4:3 material when set to wide/squeeze, but to me it's still excells. I watch a lot of 4:3 material that I record from OTA to DVD, and the 4:3 pic quality is quite good.

I dont experience pixel cropping, not severe overscanning, in fact, a 4:3 display from the oppo actually show more of pic , so much in fact thath I thought it had to be distroting image, but checked with AVIA and it was not.

Rick

I also have the latest version of the Oppo DV971H and I have it connected to the HDMI port of a Sceptre 37" LCD Televsion and I have no lip sync issues detected on anything I run thru it. As a matter of fact I really believe it's the best addition to my little home theater I've made so far!!! The picture quality has been responsible for two friends ordering the Oppo!!

This may be a very silly question, but why are you guys have sounds output from both TV and receiver? I don't understand this logic...
Sorry for the confusion...When I noticed the lip-sync issue coming from my receiver (5.1) while watching dvd's I turned-up the tv speakers and noticed the tv and receiver was not in sync. I watch movies with receiver on(only) and watch tv with tv speakers (only).

Will my luck with the OPPO DV97H was not to good. :(

Sending it back, the picture on my Sony SXRD KDS-R50XB1 was grainy.
I was using the DVI connection to HDMI and the TV was setup using the AVIA disk, but it didn't matter. My old XBOX played the DVD's better then the OPPO.

The OPPO DV97H had the current firmware ver. 05.00.01.07 Batch: F-0220

I had based my purchase on all the great reviews listed on this forum as well as on the web (maybe my unit was just bad).

Sending back on Monday.

P.S. Have a great picture with my DirecTV HD using the HDMI connection, so I don't believe its the tv (only 1 month old).

How do you have the Oppo setup for TruLife, etc?

I would recommend you turn TruLife Off (the default in On) and turn off CSS, Noise Reduction, etc. Start with everything Off and/or set to 0. The Oppo has a very clean picture, but some of the "enhancements" can cause noise and other problems with some displays.

If that doesn't work, then as was previously suggested, you should return your unit to Oppo for a replacement. The Oppo is worth a second chance.

I'm going to have to spend the time and really experiment with the Oppo lip-sync issue trying 720p,1080i,start/stop,off/on,pause, holding breath,ect. I hope it's something I am doing wrong but I do not want to preview each and every dvd before the big show. Not with today's technology.

If the TV doesn't get a signal at it's native resolution, then it will have to perform video scaling also, which in turn can cause or worsen audio synch problems. It isn't all the fault of the Oppo.

FWIW, my wife only wants the tv and dvd player going when she watches, and I want the who enchalada going. so I have the optical going to the receiver and the RCA downmix going to the tv.

Exactly. I only ran them both at the same time by accident when I forgot to mute the tv after starting the movie. Playing both sets of speakers simultaneously does not enhance the listening experience (except in rare cases when a 5.1 sound track has hard to hear vocals) but is a great way to tell if there is an audio delay.

Sorry for the confusion...When I noticed the lip-sync issue coming from my receiver (5.1) while watching dvd's I turned-up the tv speakers and noticed the tv and receiver was not in sync. I watch movies with receiver on(only) and watch tv with tv speakers (only).

If the sync error is consistent and can be reproduced repeatly - it is not the fault of the 971H.

The Farjouda A/V sync bug is a inconstistent, random variable delay which manifests itself during video processing. After applying the latest firmware - I have not had a single instance of this bug.

I recommend downloading and trying the older 1022 firmware - which supports audio delay on the digital out.

Sending it back, the picture on my Sony SXRD KDS-R50XB1 was grainy.
I was using the DVI connection to HDMI and the TV was setup using the AVIA disk, but it didn't matter. My old XBOX played the DVD's better then the OPPO.

The X-Box is a terrible DVD player. If you honestly believe that your X-Box played DVDs better than the Oppo, either something is very wrong with your equipment or your standards for picture quality are not the same as the rest of ours.

I am having a problem with my oppo OPDV971H. I am using HDMI to my Benq pe7700. My projector is set to real mode so it should be doing a 1 to 1 pixel map. The oppo is set to 720p which is the native resolution of my projector. However, there is about a 15 pixel border on the left and right side that aren’t being used. If I set my projector to anamorphic it zooms in just enough to use all the pixels or if I zoom in on the oppo it will fill those pixels so its not like the oppo isn’t sending that information but its sending it as black bars for some reason. It even does it on native 16:9 content on all 4 sides. Its not just movies either it even does it on the oppo logo when there is no dvd in the machine.

I am having a problem with my oppo OPDV971H. I am using HDMI to my Benq pe7700. My projector is set to real mode so it should be doing a 1 to 1 pixel map. The oppo is set to 720p which is the native resolution of my projector. However, there is about a 15 pixel border on the left and right side that aren’t being used. A 15 pixels per side border on a native 720p projector? That is certainly not the OPPO. Your projector must be doing something odd.

Gary

BlakeN, have you checked in the service menu of the 7700 that you disabled overscan on the DVI input?

I am assuming that such a thing exists however - I have a Benq 8700+ and it didn't have that feature.

I recommend downloading and trying the older 1022 firmware - which supports audio delay on the digital out.

Wasn't this just an illusion?

Dave

Wasn't this just an illusion?

Dave

According to OPPO, when the DVD unit was set to RAW, the Delay feature never worked. Illusion: most likely.

I am having a problem with my oppo OPDV971H. I am using HDMI to my Benq pe7700. My projector is set to real mode so it should be doing a 1 to 1 pixel map. The oppo is set to 720p which is the native resolution of my projector. However, there is about a 15 pixel border on the left and right side that aren’t being used. If I set my projector to anamorphic it zooms in just enough to use all the pixels or if I zoom in on the oppo it will fill those pixels so its not like the oppo isn’t sending that information but its sending it as black bars for some reason. It even does it on native 16:9 content on all 4 sides. Its not just movies either it even does it on the oppo logo when there is no dvd in the machine.

I have the same problem with my Hitachi 720p projector (PJ TX100). Using another resolution make it even worse. Because of using then DVI-interface of the projector i cant use a zoom. I thought the problem is the underscanning of the oppo. Any ideas for solving the problem.

Thanks
Holger

Exactly. I only ran them both at the same time by accident when I forgot to mute the tv after starting the movie. Playing both sets of speakers simultaneously does not enhance the listening experience (except in rare cases when a 5.1 sound track has hard to hear vocals) but is a great way to tell if there is an audio delay. So hopefully you guys understand that there is nothing wrong here, just avoid using analog and digital audio simultaneously.

There could be two reasons for the echo you heard:
The OPPO's audio delay only works on the analog out, so if you set any delay on the player, the analog output (to your TV) will be lagging slightly behind the digital output.
Many TV's (like mine) have a built-in (permanent) audio delay to compensate for any delays in the video circuit.
Remember that upconverting players like the OPPO, experience video delay, due to all the processing going on. Hence the need for audio delay.

Gary

I have the same problem with my Hitachi 720p projector (PJ TX100). Using another resolution make it even worse. Because of using then DVI-interface of the projector i cant use a zoom. I thought the problem is the underscanning of the oppo. Any ideas for solving the problem. The OPPO underscans by 3-4 pixels max. Anything more, is coming from the projector. In that case, check on the projector threads.

Gary

The OPPO underscans by 3-4 pixels max. Anything more, is coming from the projector. In that case, check on the projector threads.

Gary

unlikely.
I also use the Denon DVD-1920 native with 720p. And there aren't any bars. Any other ideas?

Thanks

Holger

unlikely.
I also use the Denon DVD-1920 native with 720p. And there aren't any bars. Any other ideas? A couple of other people with plasma displays have reported this too. It is possible that some displays detect the OPPO's tiny underscan and react by scaling it further, perhaps because they identify it as a custom resolution? I don't know, I can only guess. This issue became a very hot topic once before, until various experts were called in to the thread to analyze the OPPO's signal. The signal was confirmed to be 1280x720, with a fixed 3-4 pixel black mat around the image.

Gary

A couple of other people with plasma displays have reported this too. It is possible that some displays detect the OPPO's tiny underscan and react by scaling it further, perhaps because they identify it as a custom resolution? I don't know, I can only guess. This issue became a very hot topic once before, until various experts were called in to the thread to analyze the OPPO's signal. The signal was confirmed to be 1280x720, with a fixed 3-4 pixel black mat around the image.

Gary

strange.
You are right. The pixels you discribe can't be my problem. Additionally my bars are only left and right. Not around and more than tiny.
So I have to wait for a new FW maybe without underscanning.

Holger

strange.
You are right. The pixels you discribe can't be my problem. Additionally my bars are only left and right. Not around and more than tiny.
So I have to wait for a new FW maybe without underscanning. Holger, if your 720p display is putting wide bars on the sides only, then it must be squeezing the image horizontally, or cropping off the sides of the image. Which is it?

Gary

Holger, if your 720p display is putting wide bars on the sides only, then it must be squeezing the image horizontally, or cropping off the sides of the image. Which is it?

Gary

I'm not sure. I have to check that. Information will follow.

Holger

Only speaking for myself, I don't always need to fire up the entire system...And, sometimes in order to maintain domestic tranquility, it's in my own best interest to not fire up the large amp....

I have the same setup for the same reason. My question is why are you having both audio on at the same time? Don't you use one or the other?

A couple of other people with plasma displays have reported this too. It is possible that some displays detect the OPPO's tiny underscan and react by scaling it further, perhaps because they identify it as a custom resolution? I don't know, I can only guess. This issue became a very hot topic once before, until various experts were called in to the thread to analyze the OPPO's signal. The signal was confirmed to be 1280x720, with a fixed 3-4 pixel black mat around the image.

Gary

Does Oppo envisage to remove these pixels black around the image soon?

In my case, it is the only issue which would remain to be solved with my Oppo :cool:

If I send a 720p signal through hdmi/dvi from my HTPC I do not get this problem its only with the oppo. I have sent an email to oppo support. I hope they can identify my problem.

I would think this would be on the oppo's end because like I said if I zoom to 1.2 on the oppo it uses the previously unused pixels. I would think if this is a overscan problem it wouldn't use those pixels no matter what.

I have the same setup for the same reason. My question is why are you having both audio on at the same time? Don't you use one or the other?

Oops...Sorry that's not what I meant...I use both, but never at the same time. As others have point out. The echo would drive you crazy.

-Toonces

I've noticed these forums always seem to attract a lot of "problem" discussions (regardless of topic) so I wanted to post some favorable comments if there are any prospective buyers lurking. Its not scientific approach but its practical.



I did not see the need for a full repost since I wanted to respond in general. I, too, have done this comparison and I always find the Oppo to kick serious butt. The 5th Element is the best comparison that I have found, HD-component from the 8300HD to HD DVI from Oppo. The biggest plus is the color from the Oppo. For some odd reason, I find the HD programming has more red saturation in the people's complextions in the shows. (I have balanced the monitor through the Oppo.) This may be because in HD there is a more realistic difference in individual complextions that become more noticeable than over SD programming, or the 8300 HD does not do well. I will go with the later, but a little of the former mixed in.

Anyway, if I have a choice to watch a movie that I own, or one recorded, I will take mine. I do enjoy watching the HD movies though, especially from Universal HD, i.e., Frieghteners. :D

I have the OPPO with my Sony sxrd and the lip-sync issue really sucks. :mad:
I would wait until OPPO has the issue resolved.

I have a Sony 60" SXRD and have had *no* problems with lip synch. How are you running your audio? My Oppo optical out-> Yamaha receiver setup is fine without even having to set any delays on the receiver!

-Tony

Philips 42" Plasma - optical out -> Sony Receiver = zero lip sync problems. Oh yea, using HDMI-DVI cable for video.

Watched Ice Harvest last night, no tech glitches. Not a great film though :-)

Hi guys,

I am currently having 0228 fw installed, is it worth bothering to change to 0302??

Thanks.

Hi guys,

I am currently having 0228 fw installed, is it worth bothering to change to 0302??

Thanks.

No, unless you are bothered by the UDF jibberish bug.

Does Oppo envisage to remove these pixels black around the image soon?

In my case, it is the only issue which would remain to be solved with my Oppo :cool:

Underscanning has always been on their plate, it is a matter of if or when they will actually get around to fixing it.

No, unless you are bothered by the UDF jibberish bug.
Neuromancer,

There were no real changes in the picture quality, or fixes for the 1080i output in the 0302 fix, were there? If not, I may switch back to 0220 since I had no sync problems until I upgraded.

Thanks!!

Neuromancer,

There were no real changes in the picture quality, or fixes for the 1080i output in the 0302 fix, were there? If not, I may switch back to 0220 since I had no sync problems until I upgraded.

Thanks!!

There are no visual fixes in the 0302 firmware. However, the 0220 firmware can cause interlacing and combing artifacts (once every 5 minutes or so) which will deteriorate the video clarity.

There are no visual fixes in the 0302 firmware. However, the 0220 firmware can cause interlacing and combing artifacts (once every 5 minutes or so) which will deteriorate the video clarity.

So best bet is to go with 0228. Fixes that problem and keeps the delay tweaks?

I have a Sony 60" SXRD and have had *no* problems with lip synch. How are you running your audio? My Oppo optical out-> Yamaha receiver setup is fine without even having to set any delays on the receiver!

-Tony
Optical out...when you get a chance tell me what your Oppo settings are. I honestly hope it is something I can change in the Oppo.

So best bet is to go with 0228. Fixes that problem and keeps the delay tweaks?

I would try the 0220 firmware first, as this has the A/V synch intact. If the occassional error bothers you, then you will want to revert to the 0302 firmware. However, the 0228/0302 firmware don't have the A/V sync fix (as this was causing the problem with the interlacing/combing errors.

If I send a 720p signal through hdmi/dvi from my HTPC I do not get this problem its only with the oppo. I have sent an email to oppo support. I hope they can identify my problem.

I would think this would be on the oppo's end because like I said if I zoom to 1.2 on the oppo it uses the previously unused pixels. I would think if this is a overscan problem it wouldn't use those pixels no matter what. I agree that there is something different about the OPPO's signal that triggers this behavior in some displays (this does not occur on the vast majority of displays). There is no overscan problem, though... it is slight underscan.

Very interesting that the zoom fixes it. That could help us find the cause. The Faroudja chip is not currently doing the zooming - the MTK chip (MPEG decoder) handles the zoom. When set to 720p, the Faroudja chip presumably outputs the same 1280x720 signal, no matter what the MTK chip feeds it (and no matter what the zoom level). So it may well be the MTK chip that is responsible for the 3-4 pixel border when the image is not zoomed. Some displays may detect the inactive border and go into a "safe mode", thinking it is dealing with a custom resolution. I'll ask OPPO to check on this.

Thanks for sharing your "zoom" observation.

Gary

I would try the 0220 firmware first, as this has the A/V synch intact. If the occassional error bothers you, then you will want to revert to the 0302 firmware. However, the 0228/0302 firmware don't have the A/V sync fix (as this was causing the problem with the interlacing/combing errors.
I actually was not seeing the video problems with 0220. If they were there, they were not recognizable with my intensely untrained eyes. :D I will give the 0302 a few more movies, since the sync the other day was onlyu the second movie that I had that problem with. Thanks for the input.

I actually was not seeing the video problems with 0220. If they were there, they were not recognizable with my intensely untrained eyes. :D

It is both a gift, and a curse.

It is both a gift, and a curse.

This is so true...like I have posted in the past, the only "jitter" I get with 1080i is on the splash screen.

That is enough for this deal...yea!

I recieved an email back from oppo but they didn't have any idea what would cause the problem either. They have never tested the 971h on a pe7700 wich is understandable they can't test everything.

If anyone has any suggestions I am willing to try just about everything.

This is so true...like I have posted in the past, the only "jitter" I get with 1080i is on the splash screen.

That is enough for this deal...yea!
I've observed the same thing with my 34" Sony crt set. I wonder why this is, that it jitters only with the splash screen?

Hello,

I just connected my 971 using the DVI to HDMI cable provided. It is connected to one of the HDMI inputs on the Pioneer VSX-74TXVi and then is output via HDMI to the Panasonic 900. When you push the DVI button on the remote, how can you tell which mode (480p, 540p, 720p, 1080i) it goes to. With the setup above, when I hit the DVI button on remote, the Oppo logo screen goes blank, and then comes back after a few seconds but I don't see any indicator of which resolution mode it has looped to.

I initially only connected the DVI/HDMI cable and could not get sound. Didn't realize I had to also connect the digital coax cable also. I thought DVI/HDMI passes video and mutichannel audio. Is this correct?

Hello,

I just connected my 971 using the DVI to HDMI cable provided. It is connected to one of the HDMI inputs on the Pioneer VSX-74TXVi and then is output via HDMI to the Panasonic 900. When you push the DVI button on the remote, how can you tell which mode (480p, 540p, 720p, 1080i) it goes to. With the setup above, when I hit the DVI button on remote, the Oppo logo screen goes blank, and then comes back after a few seconds but I don't see any indicator of which resolution mode it has looped to.

I initially only connected the DVI/HDMI cable and could not get sound. Didn't realize I had to also connect the digital coax cable also. I thought DVI/HDMI passes video and mutichannel audio. Is this correct?

DVI passes video only. So you need another connection for audio. (if OPPO was HDMI, then HDMI cable would pass both).

It sounds like the sync time is too long on OPPO. Make sure you're using a later FW version. If you need to, you can connect a vido cable (component or composite) from oppo to another input on tv. Watch that input while you Press DVI button. Once you have the scan rate you want, you can switch tv to DVI input and disconnect the other video cable.

I used to have to do this with my Tosh RP-CRT but later OPPO FW increased the amount of time the OPPO displayed the Scan Rate.

Rick

When you push the DVI button on the remote, how can you tell which mode (480p, 540p, 720p, 1080i) it goes to. With the setup above, when I hit the DVI button on remote, the Oppo logo screen goes blank, and then comes back after a few seconds but I don't see any indicator of which resolution mode it has looped to. Your display takes too long to sync to the new resolution. My TV also takes a long time, but thankfully, OPPO increased the message display-time, so I can just catch it now. But since your set takes even longer, you have two options: Look for an "info" or similar button on your display, which should be able to report the resolution.
Hook a cheap composite video cable (yellow connector) from the OPPO to the TV, and watch that input while you make the changes. (Note that you are pressing the "DVI" button, so the resolution changes affect the DVI output only). Gary

OK, so I appreciate Oppo for diligently releasing new firmware for the 971. Top-drawer service, truly.

But . . . is Oppo confident they'll be able to iron out all the wrinkles, i.e. get the best from both the 0220 and 0302 firmwares?

OK, so I appreciate Oppo for diligently releasing new firmware for the 971. Top-drawer service, truly.

But . . . is Oppo confident they'll be able to iron out all the wrinkles, i.e. get the best from both the 0220 and 0302 firmwares?OPPO has to depend, not only on their own engineers, but also third-party chip manufacturers to get this right, so they may not want to guarantee a fix, and rightly so. But because I know a bit about what's involved, I'm pretty confident that the wrinkles in the 0220 and 0302 firmware releases will be fixed.

Gary

Thanks for the response guys. It makes sense regarding the sync time. Luckily I a pulled a component video to the projector also. I'll hook that to the Oppo and catch the resolution that way. Does the resolution pop up on the screen display somewhere when I hit the DVI button on remote. Just wanted to know what I was looking for.

I also downloaded and burned the firmware updates (0220) to DVD+R disc, but the Oppo didn't recognize the DVD disc. I check the file on the DVD+R disc and its the 935.bin file so it seems OK. What format discs will the Oppo recognize and I should burn to?

Currently have firmware 1111b, and while watching my first film noticed audio/video sync delays and noticeable picture shift to the right with Overscan turned off on the Panasonic 900 projector. Is this a known issue for 1111b firmware?

Oh and by the way, picture was silky smooth and noise/artifact free on the film I watched. Felt like being in the movie theater. :D

You'll need to burn updates to CD, not DVD. Welcome aboard.

Does the resolution pop up on the screen display somewhere when I hit the DVI button on remote. Yes.
Currently have firmware 1111b, and while watching my first film noticed audio/video sync delays and noticeable picture shift to the right with Overscan turned off on the Panasonic 900 projector. Is this a known issue for 1111b firmware?Yes.
Oh and by the way, picture was silky smooth and noise/artifact free on the film I watched. Felt like being in the movie theater. :DGood thing! If your display is properly calibrated, the picture can be phenomenal.

Gary

I've observed the same thing with my 34" Sony crt set. I wonder why this is, that it jitters only with the splash screen?

I've got a Sony CRT as well (36" 4:3) and I play my 4:3 material at 480p (due to Sony forcing 16:9 in other modes), and have noticed some pretty severe jitter in some movies. I don't know what causes it, because it's not a constant jitter through the whole movie, but just certain scenes with certain camera angles. Almost as if there's too much information in those frames or something. I did not have a problem with this on my previous player (Philips DVP642).

I'm wondering if this has something to do with using the DVI input, and if it wouldn't happen on component. I know you don't even get progressive on component, but could you have both hooked up at the same time? Does Video 1 send through component and Video 2 send through DVI? This would be ideal if it works, as I wouldn't have to get another dvd player for 4:3 stuff, or wait for another firmware.

I've got a Sony CRT as well (36" 4:3) and I play my 4:3 material at 480p (due to Sony forcing 16:9 in other modes), and have noticed some pretty severe jitter in some movies. I don't know what causes it, because it's not a constant jitter through the whole movie, but just certain scenes with certain camera angles. Almost as if there's too much information in those frames or something. I did not have a problem with this on my previous player (Philips DVP642).

I'm wondering if this has something to do with using the DVI input, and if it wouldn't happen on component. I know you don't even get progressive on component, but could you have both hooked up at the same time? Does Video 1 send through component and Video 2 send through DVI? This would be ideal if it works, as I wouldn't have to get another dvd player for 4:3 stuff, or wait for another firmware.


What firmware are yo using? If it's the 0220 then try the 0302 which might help.

I set up my ae700 with DVI and component to try and do just thing you suggest: the component image was so awful in comparison to the DVI that I gave up the whole thing as a bad job.

Dave

What firmware are yo using? If it's the 0220 then try the 0302 which might help.

It shipped with the 0220 and I upgraded to the 0302 when it came out.. That's when I first noticed the jitter, so I reverted back to the 0220 and it is still occurring. I haven't tried the 0228 yet, and am not sure if that would help out either.

I've noticed that it seems to happen primarily on images and scenes that are predominately white. My wife was just watching an episode of Bullshit, and the scenes where they're on set (a complete white set) were jumping around horribly.

Is this a problem with the player (a bad player?), a probably with the set (never used the HDMI for HD programming), or a little of both? I'm completely happy with the player with anamorphic stuff when I go to the higher aspect ratios, and am thinking about getting a decently built cheapy player to hook up on one of the component ins for a dedicated 4:3 machine. Of course, if I can fix the oppo to not jitter around, that would be the better option.

Have a problem with my oppo when i connect my optoma 72 via hdmi the picture seems out of sinc like all the colours are mixed together.
This happened last week when i tried to play a disc but when i switched the oppo on& off a few times it seemed to clear itself and the picture was fine but now i cannot seem to fix it i have tried all sorts like all the hdmi setting but no luck ,when you just have the logo on the picture seems to be blocky not smooth as it was & when you play a dvd it is awful colours & out of focus thats the best way i can explain it.
this seems like the signal is not getting to the pj correctly everything is ok if i connect with component so it must be the player .
any help would be welcome
Shaun

Have a problem with my oppo when i connect my optoma 72 via hdmi the picture seems out of sinc like all the colours are mixed together.
This happened last week when i tried to play a disc but when i switched the oppo on& off a few times it seemed to clear itself and the picture was fine but now i cannot seem to fix it i have tried all sorts like all the hdmi setting but no luck ,when you just have the logo on the picture seems to be blocky not smooth as it was & when you play a dvd it is awful colours & out of focus thats the best way i can explain it.
this seems like the signal is not getting to the pj correctly everything is ok if i connect with component so it must be the player. Shaun, I've never heard of such a problem. Is the player new, or did this problem suddenly crop up after long term use?

Your conclusion that it must be the player, is not necessarily true. Your optoma could have a problem in the HDMI circuit. Have you tried another DVI/HDMI device with your optoma to compare? Is it possible that the cable/connections are bad. Are you using the cable supplied by OPPO, or do you have a long cable run? (Psychedelic colors can occur with data corruption over long cable runs). Can you try the player on someone else's DVI/HDMI display?

If you have checked the above options, then your assumption may be valid, and you may have to replace the player.

Gary

Hi, I tried searching for an answer to this question, but didnt find much luck. I have a Sony KDF-E42A10, and I was going to buy the Oppo player, but I dont have a receiver. Can I just connect the video via the DVI - HDMI cable, and then just use audio out to the tv? Has anyone done this - any problems?

Hi, I tried searching for an answer to this question, but didnt find much luck. I have a Sony KDF-E42A10, and I was going to buy the Oppo player, but I dont have a receiver. Can I just connect the video via the DVI - HDMI cable, and then just use audio out to the tv? Has anyone done this - any problems?

I have the same setup. DVI-HDMI for the video and analog audio to the TV. I also ran a Toslink cable to my receiver for when I want 5.1.

It shipped with the 0220 and I upgraded to the 0302 when it came out.. That's when I first noticed the jitter, so I reverted back to the 0220 and it is still occurring. I haven't tried the 0228 yet, and am not sure if that would help out either.

I've noticed that it seems to happen primarily on images and scenes that are predominately white. My wife was just watching an episode of Bullshit, and the scenes where they're on set (a complete white set) were jumping around horribly.

Is this a problem with the player (a bad player?), a probably with the set (never used the HDMI for HD programming), or a little of both? I'm completely happy with the player with anamorphic stuff when I go to the higher aspect ratios, and am thinking about getting a decently built cheapy player to hook up on one of the component ins for a dedicated 4:3 machine. Of course, if I can fix the oppo to not jitter around, that would be the better option. Don't know for sure. Some of the Sony TV's have had problems. My Samsung DLP does not have such a problem, but I have not specifically tried the DVD and scene you mentioned.

Try the same 4:3 material with other TV modes and OPPO resolutions (even if it is stretched), and see whether the jitter continues, or whether it is unique to that one input scenario. That could help pin-point the device that is the source of the problem.

Gary

I have a Scientific Atlanta AT8400 remote control that came with my 8300 cable box. I am programing it with my other devices. The only device that will not work is the Oppo. I did a search for all codes and none worked. Has anyone tried to program this same remote for their Oppo? If so could you post the code that worked. Thanks

Hi Gary.
The reason i think it is the oppo is when i first purchased it i tried it out on a hitachi 200 in dealers & when we were trying it out the same problem arose i thought it was the pj not being set properly ,the dealer said he had not seen it before .
this cleared after changing the settings up & down when we returned to 720 it was ok again .
i am going to buy a new lead today to make sure its not that .

Shaun

Hi, I tried searching for an answer to this question, but didnt find much luck. I have a Sony KDF-E42A10, and I was going to buy the Oppo player, but I dont have a receiver. Can I just connect the video via the DVI - HDMI cable, and then just use audio out to the tv? Has anyone done this - any problems?

That works just fine.

any 3rd party programmers working on creating an audio delay via RAW as well?

Right now, this is the only gripe I have with this PERFECT player on my HP MD5880n 58" DLP

any 3rd party programmers working on creating an audio delay via RAW as well?

Right now, this is the only gripe I have with this PERFECT player on my HP MD5880n 58" DLP
Speaking of which, Gary, did oppo every get back to you about whether the PCM signal, which can be delayed, could carry 5.1 or not?

Dave

I have a Toshiba 34HDX82 and an Oppo DVD player. The player is hooked up through my Outlaw 990 to the TV using the DVI Video switching in the Outlaw. I have a Motorola HD Cablebox as well. When I use the cablebox I have no issues with the video. However, when I use the Oppo, I will get what I would describe as a shooting star kind of effect across one or two of the lines of the screen. It starts on the left and moves to the right. It last about a second or two. Is this a known issue? It happens in all the modes.

I have the Panasonic PT50LC13 RP LCD.

My Oppo is connected via DVI to the Panny. Can someone give me some hints as to the best setup with this type TV?

It seems the Panny is only 480p native, but will accept and display 720p and 1080p signal from the Oppo (The TV has an option to display what rez is being input to it, so I can easily see what rez is being sent from the Oppo).

I can also manually set the Screen Video Mode to: 480p, Automatic or VGA.

I've tried a few different options (as far as video modes, input rez and aspect ratios), but I can't say I'm seeing that much of a PQ boost vs. my previous DVD player (Philips DVP642)

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for any help!

I

It seems the Panny is only 480p native, but will accept and display 720p and 1080p signal from the Oppo (The TV has an option to display what rez is being input to it, so I can easily see what rez is being sent from the Oppo).

I can also manually set the Screen Video Mode to: 480p, Automatic or VGA.

I've tried a few different options (as far as video modes, input rez and aspect ratios), but I can't say I'm seeing that much of a PQ boost vs. my previous DVD player (Philips DVP642)

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks for any help!

If your TV is only 480p native you won't really get much improvement from the oppo. There may have been better options for your set up. The oppo is designed for HD resolution TVs as a stop gap until HD-DVD/Blu-Ray becomes both widely available and comprehensive in their back catalogue.

Dave

If your TV is only 480p native you won't really get much improvement from the oppo. There may have been better options for your set up. The oppo is designed for HD resolution TVs as a stop gap until HD-DVD/Blu-Ray becomes both widely available and comprehensive in their back catalogue.

Dave

Thanks for the response Dave.

Well, so much for taking all that heat from the wife for spending the $$ for the Oppo vs. staying with our previous DVD player. :(

I'm really starting to like my Panny less and less...I've had it for about 2 1/2 years and it's already on its' 3rd bulb, no discreet codes and now I find out it's only 480p native. :(

I have a Westinghouse LTV-32w1 (with baaaddd glowing corners, but thats another story) and I would like to know if anyone has any advice on the Oppo for this tv. I currently watch DVD's via my X-box 360 and would like to know if the Oppo would present a noticable step up in picture quality?

I have a Westinghouse LTV-32w1 (with baaaddd glowing corners, but thats another story) and I would like to know if anyone has any advice on the Oppo for this tv. I currently watch DVD's via my X-box 360 and would like to know if the Oppo would present a noticable step up in picture quality?

The Westinghouse has a built in Faroudja chipset, so now it becomes a conversation about which is better at the upscaling and de-interlacing: the OPDV971H or the Westinghouse. For the most part, I was not that impressed with the Westinghouse and the OPDV971H combo for the short time that I had with the two units. Could just be that it needed more calibrating than I had time for. Hopefully a Westy user will have some insightes.

ummm...the Panny PT50LC13 RP LCD is definitely 720p native. I'm not sure where you got the idea that these sets are 480p native.

I'm using the Oppo with a Panny PT50LC14 (same model, the year after yours), and the picture looks fantastic. Set the Oppo to 720p and turn off all enhancements (Truelife etc). Follow the FAQ on the first page for brightness, contrast etc, and then calibrate with AVIA/ DVE.

After calibration, I can definitely say that the Oppo's picture on this TV set is significantly better than the RP82 which I used for several years.

ummm...the Panny PT50LC13 RP LCD is definitely 720p native. I'm not sure where you got the idea that these sets are 480p native.

I'm using the Oppo with a Panny PT50LC14 (same model, the year after yours), and the picture looks fantastic. Set the Oppo to 720p and turn off all enhancements (Truelife etc). Follow the FAQ on the first page for brightness, contrast etc, and then calibrate with AVIA/ DVE.

After calibration, I can definitely say that the Oppo's picture on this TV set is significantly better than the RP82 which I used for several years.

Well, that's just proof of my ignorance of such things! THANKS for clearing that up for me linesalomon! :)

I think I understand how the whole 480/720/1080 works now...It's based on the screen resolution being: 640x480 , 1280x720 or 1280x1080 right?

So, since my Panny is 1280x720, then it's 720p native?

I feel much better now. :)

I have a Toshiba 34HDX82 and an Oppo DVD player. The player is hooked up through my Outlaw 990 to the TV using the DVI Video switching in the Outlaw. I have a Motorola HD Cablebox as well. When I use the cablebox I have no issues with the video. However, when I use the Oppo, I will get what I would describe as a shooting star kind of effect across one or two of the lines of the screen. It starts on the left and moves to the right. It last about a second or two. Is this a known issue? It happens in all the modes. This is not a known issue with the OPPO. Try bypassing the Outlaw 990 and connect directly to the TV with the short OPPO cable. That will take the Outlaw and other cables and connectors out of the equation. It could be a signal degradation issue.

Gary

Speaking of which, Gary, did oppo every get back to you about whether the PCM signal, which can be delayed, could carry 5.1 or not? Sorry Dave, I took a while to get the question to them, because I was gathering a few other questions too.

I'll be sure to let you know when they reply. This one will probably have to go through Mediatek.

Gary

any 3rd party programmers working on creating an audio delay via RAW as well?

Right now, this is the only gripe I have with this PERFECT player on my HP MD5880n 58" DLP Not that I know of. But don't get your hopes up too much either. It could be a hardwired limitation for the RAW stream.

Gary

I am having a problem with my oppo OPDV971H. I am using HDMI to my Benq pe7700. My projector is set to real mode so it should be doing a 1 to 1 pixel map. The oppo is set to 720p which is the native resolution of my projector. However, there is about a 15 pixel border on the left and right side that aren’t being used.

in my pe7700 there was 96% (or similar) overscan in HDMI, I disabled via service menu (increase to 100%).

What is the latest sofware version fo rthe OPPO player. And how do I check it on my player.

i am thinking of getting this for my Mistu WD52825, but it only has an HDMI input, will it work with this player and will it be better than any other progressive scan player?

i am thinking of getting this for my Mistu WD52825, but it only has an HDMI input, will it work with this player and will it be better than any other progressive scan player?


Sure can just puchase a DVI to HDMI cable like I did. ;)

No need to buy a DVI>HDMI cable. OPPO includes one in the box if you buy directly from them. :)

Dana

Mine that was bought from amazon (with free shipping) had both dvi-dvi and dvi-hdmi cables but it had the old glass black control not the glow in the dark one. I emailed oppo though and they sent one out.

How many folks are experiencing audio/video sync problems? For those who have the problem, is there a firmware which cures the audio/video sync issue and works? A firmware that fixes that issue but does not cause other problems?

What is the latest sofware version fo rthe OPPO player. And how do I check it on my player.

F-0220 if you ordered before today.

F-0302 if you ordered today.

To check the firmware:
Press Eject.
Press the OSD button.
Your Batch number is the firmware revision.

How many folks are experiencing audio/video sync problems? For those who have the problem, is there a firmware which cures the audio/video sync issue and works? A firmware that fixes that issue but does not cause other problems?

You will either cure the problem but bring about video errors, or stick with the AV sync error but have correct video reproduction.

OPPO is working on a new AV fix that should retain proper synch and video reproduction.

You will either cure the problem but bring about video errors, or stick with the AV sync error but have correct video reproduction.

OPPO is working on a new AV fix that should retain proper synch and video reproduction.


eh? I'm having no sync or video problems - your answer sounded like we're doomed to have one or the other ......

The Westinghouse has a built in Faroudja chipset, so now it becomes a conversation about which is better at the upscaling and de-interlacing: the OPDV971H or the Westinghouse. For the most part, I was not that impressed with the Westinghouse and the OPDV971H combo for the short time that I had with the two units. Could just be that it needed more calibrating than I had time for. Hopefully a Westy user will have some insightes.


Do you think the Oppo would be worth buying just for the DVI output vs component? I keep hearing the component input on the LV-32w1 is kind of weak. The picture coming from my 360 is no where close to the hd picture from my cable box and they are both hooked up via component.

just ordered from Amazon for 186~.

cant wait to try it on my TV, now to get some speakers.

Is there any loss in PQ when you use the DVI to HDMI connect? (they are both digital, so im assuming no, but just want to double check)

Do you think the Oppo would be worth buying just for the DVI output vs component? I keep hearing the component input on the LV-32w1 is kind of weak. The picture coming from my 360 is no where close to the hd picture from my cable box and they are both hooked up via component.

The OPDV971H should not be purchased if it is going to be used through the component connections. I asked OPPO what the returns were like for the OPDV971H when mated to the Westinghouse, and there were only two related returns. One was due to seeing no difference between their previous player, and the second was due to artifacting.

So it could be a very good match. My initial response was not that good, but my time was very limited (no proper re-calibration, fine tuning and so forth).

Is there any loss in PQ when you use the DVI to HDMI connect? (they are both digital, so im assuming no, but just want to double check) None.

Gary

Really. I mean, they are slacking, its been almost 2 weeks since the last firmware release. When's the next one going to be available? I was expecting to spend all weekend tweaking another installation.

Guess I'll have to watch movies instead;)

Watched Wallace and Gromit earlier in week, even my wife said the movie looked like liquid glass on the 4805. Not a hiccup in the whole disc.

F-0302 is there already mate. Refresh the support page.

Unusual problem:

Did the 0220 firmware upgrade a few days ago.

Put in a movie last night (Wallace and Gromit). Initially picture (DVD menu and previews)was flattened (as if letterboxed). In SETUP I changed "Wide" back to "Wide/SQZ," and problem solved. Proper aspect ratios. (Good movie, btw.)

Tonight, power up the Oppo, and BEFORE putting in a disk, the Oppo blue screen logo itself is flattened (as if letterboxed).

Checked SETUP, still had Wide/SQZ selected. Tried a DVD (Good Night & Good Luck), same problem, flattened image. Tried all different settings (wide/panscan, et al). No good.

Loaded brand new 0302 firmware just now.

No changes. Still flattened image no matter what.

Any ideas? I tried powering down, unplugging...no luck.

Any and all help appreciated. Please don't make me go back to the Bravo. :)

- Tom

No, with many hundred of hours on the oppo that's one thing I haven't seen. As to the heat, though I agree it does seem excessive, I don't think it's a problem. The oppo's just using the case as a heat sink. As long as you don't have anything insualting on top of it should be fine. If it was a problem we'd all be seing white flashes. That might, possibly, be a lead/connection problem.

Dave

I've had my OPPO player for over a year and never experienced anything like this. Aside from the known pulsing issues with the 4805, check your DVI/HDMI connections carefully to make sure there is no stress on the cable or connector, like a sharp bend against a wall, or other cables hanging on the cable, or overtightened connector retaining screws.

One more comment... I do not trust UPS/surge-protectors/power-conditioners to prevent visible/audible hiccups. They may be fine for protecting your equipment from damage due to temporary spikes, surges and dropouts on the power lines, but they cannot stop those power problems from having an effect on the audio and video, unless you pay a LOT more money for a truly high-end power-conditioner. I have a good surge suppressor with RFI (Radio Frequency Interference) supression for my theater system. It does nothing to stop the audible effects of the power spikes when our washing machine is running. When the wash-cycle switches, I hear a loud "SNAP!" from the speakers. It drives me up the wall, and I've tried numerous types and brands of suppressors, all to no avail. Remember that surge suppressors clip a transient spike at 300-400v, which means that a relatively huge spike still gets through. An RFI suppressor can help filter out the higher frequency transients, but it also has only limited success. My OPPO seems very resilient to these transients, but the receiver is not. I'd imagine it would also depend on how bad the transients are.

Gary

Thanks for the excellent info Gary and Dave. The white flash has become a much more serious problem of late. It is now more of a strobing effect with white flashes becoming constant after the Samsung 61" DLP has been on a short while. Unfortunately, this problem coincided with my replacing a burnt out bulb in the set AND hooking up the new OPPO at the same time. I have been having trouble getting a service tech out to check out the problem. I fear it may be the light engine and may post a query in another thread.

Hope this question hasn't already been asked:

Anyone know if there is a limit to the number of times for Region changes with the OPPO ? If the OPPO is limited to a certain number of changes to the Region code is the limit effected by firmware upgrades that default back to original Region code settings ?

For example three changes and no more thereafter the last. I did a firmware upgrade to batch 0220 and the Region code defaulted back to Region 1 and I changed it again to 0 (now for the second time). If I do another firmware upgrade and the Region code returns to the default of 1 is that the last change possible? Or if after another two firmware upgrades and region changes would they be accepted in the OPPO? Anyone ?

I'm upgrading my projector and DVD player soon, and my plan was to get the Oppo, but I've read a few scattered posts recently that lead me to believe the DVI output of the Oppo is not the strongest.

I've tried searching the thread, but I can't seem to get a feel for this potential issue. I'll be running a 30' to 35' DVI to HDMI cable @ 720p. I realize there are other factors besides the Oppo to consider (namely cable and display), but I was just wondering what the general consensus is on the Oppo's ability to deliver a sparkle-free image under that scenario.

Thanks in advance. :)

Hope this question hasn't already been asked:

Anyone know if there is a limit to the number of times for Region changes with the OPPO ? If the OPPO is limited to a certain number of changes to the Region code is the limit effected by firmware upgrades that default back to original Region code settings ?

For example three changes and no more thereafter the last. I did a firmware upgrade to batch 0220 and the Region code defaulted back to Region 1 and I changed it again to 0 (now for the second time). If I do another firmware upgrade and the Region code returns to the default of 1 is that the last change possible? Or if after another two firmware upgrades and region changes would they be accepted in the OPPO? Anyone ?

I can't give you an absolute answer to your question, but I've gone through at least 7 or 8 firmware changes and changed region 1 to region 0 after each upgrade and changed from 0 to 1 and back to 0 a couple more times than this without a problem in the 14 months I've had my unit. I would be very surprised if you have to worry about the number of region changes like you do with some CD-Rom drives.

Anyone know if there is a limit to the number of times for Region changes with the OPPO ? If the OPPO is limited to a certain number of changes to the Region code is the limit effected by firmware upgrades that default back to original Region code settings ?

There is no restriction on how many times you can change the region code. Each firmware release will default the unit to Region 1 (North America). You can change it as many times as you want. This is not a PC DVD-ROM that will force you to stick with a region setting after 5 times.

I'm upgrading my projector and DVD player soon, and my plan was to get the Oppo, but I've read a few scattered posts recently that lead me to believe the DVI output of the Oppo is not the strongest.

I've tried searching the thread, but I can't seem to get a feel for this potential issue. I'll be running a 30' to 35' DVI to HDMI cable @ 720p. I realize there are other factors besides the Oppo to consider (namely cable and display), but I was just wondering what the general consensus is on the Oppo's ability to deliver a sparkle-free image under that scenario.

Thanks in advance. :)

I am currently running a 25' thread without an issue to my Optoma H78 projector.

I'm upgrading my projector and DVD player soon, and my plan was to get the Oppo, but I've read a few scattered posts recently that lead me to believe the DVI output of the Oppo is not the strongest.

I've tried searching the thread, but I can't seem to get a feel for this potential issue. I'll be running a 30' to 35' DVI to HDMI cable @ 720p. I realize there are other factors besides the Oppo to consider (namely cable and display), but I was just wondering what the general consensus is on the Oppo's ability to deliver a sparkle-free image under that scenario. Yes, the OPPO's output is not the strongest, but its signal strength is probably only a small percentage lower than the competition. Someone in this thread has successfully used a 50ft cable, so I really don't think you'll have any problem with 35ft. As you said, though, it depends on the quality of the cable and the display device, and perhaps the number of links in the chain (someone was getting into trouble running about 45ft of unknown quality cable through a receiver).

Gary

Someone in this thread has successfully used a 50ft cable

I've got a 50' DVI to M1 cable from monoprice running from my oppo to my SP4805, completely sparkle free. It looks great!

I've got a 50' DVI to M1 cable from monoprice running from my oppo to my SP4805, completely sparkle free. It looks great!There you go! Thanks for chiming in!

Unusual problem:

Did the 0220 firmware upgrade a few days ago.

Put in a movie last night (Wallace and Gromit). Initially picture (DVD menu and previews)was flattened (as if letterboxed). In SETUP I changed "Wide" back to "Wide/SQZ," and problem solved. Proper aspect ratios. (Good movie, btw.)

Tonight, power up the Oppo, and BEFORE putting in a disk, the Oppo blue screen logo itself is flattened (as if letterboxed).

Checked SETUP, still had Wide/SQZ selected. Tried a DVD (Good Night & Good Luck), same problem, flattened image. Tried all different settings (wide/panscan, et al). No good.

Loaded brand new 0302 firmware just now.

No changes. Still flattened image no matter what.

Any ideas? I tried powering down, unplugging...no luck.

Any and all help appreciated. Please don't make me go back to the Bravo. :) Never seen nor heard of such a problem. If it was the player, it would likely be a hardware issue, but how sure are you that the display is not going on the fritz? Especially since this occurs in every picture mode on the OPPO? Do you still have the Bravo to compare?

Gary

Neuromancer/GSB/joekun - thanks for the feedback, much appreciated! I'll buy one and see how it works out, but at least I know I have a fighting chance to make it work. :)

joekun - I assume you're running 480p to the 4805? Have you also tried sending 720p? From what I've read, bitrate is tied to resolution with DVI and the higher the resolution, the more susceptible you are to errors over distance. It would be interesting to see if you can pull off 50' at a higher resolution (although I don't know if the downscaling to 480p by the 4805 in that case would mask any issues).

I watch only regular dvd's and therefore upgraded to f-0220 in order to have a better audio-video sync. The settings changed to default and now I would like to set the machine properly for best video and audio result. I connect digital coax to a digital receiver (HR AVR 335) and dvi digital to optoma H31.
What would be the best setting (dolby set up, downmix, speaker size) and all the video settings?
thanks

I watch only regular dvd's and therefore upgraded to f-0220 in order to have a better audio-video sync. The settings changed to default and now I would like to set the machine properly for best video and audio result. I connect digital coax to a digital receiver (HR AVR 335) and dvi digital to optoma H31.
What would be the best setting (dolby set up, downmix, speaker size) and all the video settings?
thanks

Leave everything at default. You only need to change the audio settings if you use the analogue outs--for coax set to RAW and enjoy!

Dave

Thanks for the response. I did not know that all audio settings influence only the analog output.
Which settings (Video and Audio) influence the digital output?

If you are connecting the Oppo to your receiver via either digital out (either optical or coax), none of the settings in the player will affect the audio to my knowledge. When connected in this manner, the Oppo isn't doing ANYTHING to the audio stream, it's merely passing the data out to your receiver to be decoded/processed. Now, if your receiver has any audio adjustment options for the input your Oppo is connected to, THAT is where you would look to modify the audio. For example, many receivers come with audio delay options themselves.

There is no restriction on how many times you can change the region code. Each firmware release will default the unit to Region 1 (North America). You can change it as many times as you want. This is not a PC DVD-ROM that will force you to stick with a region setting after 5 times.

I can't give you an absolute answer to your question, but I've gone through at least 7 or 8 firmware changes and changed region 1 to region 0 after each upgrade and changed from 0 to 1 and back to 0 a couple more times than this without a problem in the 14 months I've had my unit. I would be very surprised if you have to worry about the number of region changes like you do with some CD-Rom drives.


thanks for the info

Does anyone know if the latest firmware fixes HDMI image shift on the Panasonic projectors?

Never seen nor heard of such a problem. If it was the player, it would likely be a hardware issue, but how sure are you that the display is not going on the fritz? Especially since this occurs in every picture mode on the OPPO? Do you still have the Bravo to compare?

Gary

Thanks, Gary. Yes, I did compare with the Bravo (and the other sources input to the projector), and they are all fine, no flattening.

I do think it's the Oppo, because of the flattening problem I had immediately after the 0220 firmware upgrade a few days ago.

Then, however, I was able to fix it by selecting Wide/SQZ. Now the picture is flattened no matter which picture mode I select (Wide; Wide/SQZ; PanScan; Letterbox).

I should add that my display is a JVC SX21 with an anamorphic lens. Up until the 0220 firmware upgrade, I've had the Oppo player for months and the image had been fine.

I'll be emailing Oppo and let you know if I hear anything.

If anyone has any other ideas, I'd appreciate them. :)

- Tom

JeffKB,

I am running 33' DVI cable (Blue Jeans) with OPPO to 4805 (Infocus M1 adapter). Picture is great, very happy. No sparklies, drop outs, etc.

Wow: My Oppo was delivered yesterday. I did a quick test with the UK version of Wallice and Grommit, and the picture looked superb.

I'll have to experiment with what looks better on my 1080p TV, 720p or 1080i. I was using 1080i last night.

Does anyone know if the latest firmware fixes HDMI image shift on the Panasonic projectors?

If you were previously using the D-1111B firmware, then yes, this will fix your major shifting issue. However, you will still get a slight amount of shift/underscan using the F-0302 firmware.

This is not a known issue with the OPPO. Try bypassing the Outlaw 990 and connect directly to the TV with the short OPPO cable. That will take the Outlaw and other cables and connectors out of the equation. It could be a signal degradation issue.

Gary

I will try that tonight. I would be surprised if it was degradation because it does not have an issue with the cable box that is using double the cable and switching through the same unit. Maybe the short cable from the Oppo to the outlaw is bad, but I would think it would do it more often. Anyway, I will let you know.



Shawn

Just wanted to chime back in that I finally set everything properly and am now getting GREAT picture with the Oppo!

I set my TV (Panasonic PT50LC13) to VGA (choices were 480p, Auto or VGA) and set the Oppo DVI output to 720p.

Watched 'Mr and Mrs Smith' after the changes and the level of detail is just delicious...And so is Angelina!

I believe I am using the F-0220 that came before D-1111B, because it was the last revision that did not cause major image shift. I am glad that the F-0302 implements the other improvements and fixes the image shift issue.

Just wanted to chime back in that I finally set everything properly and am now getting GREAT picture with the Oppo!

I set my TV (Panasonic PT50LC13) to VGA (choices were 480p, Auto or VGA) and set the Oppo DVI output to 720p.

Watched 'Mr and Mrs Smith' after the changes and the level of detail is just delicious...And so is Angelina!

I am not sure the VGA setting from the TV has anything to do with your picture from the Oppo, since you are likely using the DVI port. So you are just feeding the 720p from the Oppo to the native resolution of the TV. The TV does have a VGA input, so those settings are only going to pertain to a device outputting VGA signal.

I have the year model after yours and the picture is great at 720p and I have also had my TV ISF calibrated and using a camera filter mod, that decreased the backlight about 50%, which is talked about on another thread.

I searched this super long thread and couldn't find the topic I was looking for. Does any Oppo owner here use the OneForAll universal remote to control this Oppo player? I have already sent my remote in for upgrade three times and each time I was given the code 1224 for Oppo, which didn't really work well with this player. Anybody having similar experience and care to share your thoughts? Jim

I just got home from an appointment and there was my New Oppo player on my porch..I have read most of the posts here and due to the positive posts and the companies willingness to improve on the fly I took the plunge.

I had TWO not one but two DVPNS70h players, both had a line on the top of the screen (picture shift) and Sony was not helpful nor did they care they had this out of box defect..many people have had it, sent it back to Sony and have gotten the player back with the same issue..but thats the past for me...i returned both...and now there is no turning back

The picture is AMAZING!!! I hooked it up the second I walked in the door (even tho I have a boat load of work to finish) and WOW...I have a 1080p DLP Toshiba set and this works great with it....

I look forward to enjoying this DVD player and will sell many for Oppo as I will reccomend it to everyone I :D talk to.....

I just got home from an appointment and there was my New Oppo player on my porch..I have read most of the posts here and due to the positive posts and the companies willingness to improve on the fly I took the plunge.

I had TWO not one but two DVPNS70h players, both had a line on the top of the screen (picture shift) and Sony was not helpful nor did they care they had this out of box defect..many people have had it, sent it back to Sony and have gotten the player back with the same issue..but thats the past for me...i returned both...and now there is no turning back

The picture is AMAZING!!! I hooked it up the second I walked in the door (even tho I have a boat load of work to finish) and WOW...I have a 1080p DLP Toshiba set and this works great with it....

I look forward to enjoying this DVD player and will sell many for Oppo as I will reccomend it to everyone I :D talk to.....

Another satisfied customer... enjoy!

I searched this super long thread and couldn't find the topic I was looking for. Does any Oppo owner here use the OneForAll universal remote to control this Oppo player? I have already sent my remote in for upgrade three times and each time I was given the code 1224 for Oppo, which didn't really work well with this player. Anybody having similar experience and care to share your thoughts? Jim

Do you know which version of the Oppo codes was programmed into your remote? It may be using one of the two different remote codes used by the Oppo. You can switch between the different remote codes on the Oppo by turning on the player with no disc inside and holding the stop button (on the actual player) for about 5 seconds and release. This will toggle throught the 2 different remote codes for the Oppo.

Do you know which version of the Oppo codes was programmed into your remote? It may be using one of the two different remote codes used by the Oppo. You can switch between the different remote codes on the Oppo by turning on the player with no disc inside and holding the stop button (on the actual player) for about 5 seconds and release. This will toggle throught the 2 different remote codes for the Oppo.

Thanks a lot for the info. I just did that, it didn't make any difference. BTW, how do you verify that the remote code was toggled to the other one, since there was no indication on the screen what was going on as you were holding down the stop button and then releasing it?

Thanks a lot for the info. I just did that, it didn't make any difference. BTW, how do you verify that the remote code was toggled to the other one, since there was no indication on the screen what was going on as you were holding down the stop button and then releasing it?

You will see a confirmation box in the upper left hand corner of your display device. There are two modes: "Old RC" is for the Silver remote, and "New RC" is for the black remotes.

Because this thread has gotten so large over a period of 11 months can someone post the do’s and don’t as to setting up the player. I as well as many others would welcome a post that brings what everyone has learned to get the best out of their OPPO player. Currently I will be using the player on a Phillips 42 inch 42PF9976 Plasma using the DVI to HDMI cable, and Optical audio cable to my Denon receiver.

Thanks in advance, the Viper...

Go to the first post.It gets updated on a regular basis.

What is Oppo going to fix next is the main question?

I hope they fix the Pillarboxing by not letting the MTK chip handle it :)

After that what else huge is left ;)

You will see a confirmation box in the upper left hand corner of your display device. There are two modes: "Old RC" is for the Silver remote, and "New RC" is for the black remotes.

Well, since nothing came up on the screen when I was holding down the stop button for 5sec and then releasing it, I was wondering if I was doing this right. How do you bring that display up on your upper left corner? what's the sequence you used? Thanks much!

Well, since nothing came up on the screen when I was holding down the stop button for 5sec and then releasing it, I was wondering if I was doing this right. How do you bring that display up on your upper left corner? what's the sequence you used? Thanks much!

If you got the unit directly from OPPO, it is likely that you have a firmware version which only supports the black remote, hence why you are not seeing the dialog box.

Alternatively, press Setup then "9210". When the new window appears, look at the last 4 digits in the Batch No. This is your version.

Are you using the Stop button on the remote? You need to use the Stop button on the player. Here's a clip from the F-0220 firmware release instructions.

* Turn on your DVD player and display device.
* Eject any disc that may be inside of the DVD player. Remove the disc and close the tray.
* Wait for the display message "No Disc" to appear in the upper left corner of your display device.
* Press and hold (hard) the Stop button on the front panel of the DVD unit (NOT THE REMOTE) for 5 seconds. Release.
* The new message "Old RC" will appear briefly in the upper left hand corner of your display unit.

Dana

Are you using the Stop button on the remote? You need to use the Stop button on the player. Here's a clip from the F-0220 firmware release instructions.

* Turn on your DVD player and display device.
* Eject any disc that may be inside of the DVD player. Remove the disc and close the tray.
* Wait for the display message "No Disc" to appear in the upper left corner of your display device.
* Press and hold (hard) the Stop button on the front panel of the DVD unit (NOT THE REMOTE) for 5 seconds. Release.
* The new message "Old RC" will appear briefly in the upper left hand corner of your display unit.

Dana
Hmmm, that was exactly what I did. and I purchased the unit from projectorpeople.com. The batch # displayed after setup > 9210 is 1111B. I do have the black remote though. Any idea if this unit is capable of two sets of remote codes? Thanks much guys!

Hmmm, that was exactly what I did. and I purchased the unit from projectorpeople.com. The batch # displayed after setup > 9210 is 1111B. I do have the black remote though. Any idea if this unit is capable of two sets of remote codes? Thanks much guys!

XXXXB = Black Remote Only. This is why you are unable to change your remote code Go and download the latest F-0302 firmware (http://www.oppodigital.com/opdv971h_firmware_0302_download.html)

I guess I would like this put on the wish list.... anyone know if there is or ever will be a way to set the output of this player to 854x480 so I can do a 1:1 mapped pixle? This being over DVI of course. And are there any hidden menus we don't know about?

Oppo doesn't have a brick and motar store, though you're welcome to drop by the main office if you like. The machines go for $200 + S/H from amazon.Is the main office in Fremont?

I guess I would like this put on the wish list.... anyone know if there is or ever will be a way to set the output of this player to 854x480 so I can do a 1:1 mapped pixle? This being over DVI of course. And are there any hidden menus we don't know about?

Oppo would need to implement it in a firmware update. Problem is, Oppo does not get much support from Faroudja in working with the chip. I believe the Faroudja chip has over 500 "tweaks" that they must deal with on the chip and somewhere in there is the ability to do 854x480 I'm guessing.

Oppo would need to implement it in a firmware update. Problem is, Oppo does not get much support from Faroudja in working with the chip. I believe the Faroudja chip has over 500 "tweaks" that they must deal with on the chip and somewhere in there is the ability to do 854x480 I'm guessing.

Thanks for the quick reply.... I love this player, so I'm going to keep it around. But I might just try out the Bravo D1 to see any difference, which lately seems to be the "new" hot player :)

Thanks for the quick reply.... I love this player, so I'm going to keep it around. But I might just try out the Bravo D1 to see any difference, which lately seems to be the "new" hot player :)
Bravo D1 new hot player? Perhaps if you're still living in 2004. :)

I guess I would like this put on the wish list.... anyone know if there is or ever will be a way to set the output of this player to 854x480 so I can do a 1:1 mapped pixle? This is on the wish-list already.

Gary

Does anyone know if the latest firmware fixes HDMI image shift on the Panasonic projectors?


Maybe Neuromancer above is talking about something else (i.e., the known underscan issue), but on my ae700 there is no image shift at all with the 0302 fw--just the minor pixel cropping of the bottom of the image (about 3 pixels on DVE) which is caused by the projector itself.

Dave

This is on the wish-list already.

Gary

Is it near the top of the wish list?I am about to buy the Bravo D1 for 1:1 pixel mapping. ETA would be helpful.

I searched this super long thread and couldn't find the topic I was looking for. Does any Oppo owner here use the OneForAll universal remote to control this Oppo player? I have already sent my remote in for upgrade three times and each time I was given the code 1224 for Oppo, which didn't really work well with this player. Anybody having similar experience and care to share your thoughts? Jim

I can confirm that One-For-All code 1224 contains the "Old RC" codes for the Oppo 971H. Do what others have instructed: load the latest 0302 firmware and then hold the Stop button on the player. My OFA Kameleon remote works fine with the 971H using this method.

I called OFA the other day to ask if they've gotten any updated codes for Oppo's "New RC", but they have not.

Why did you send in the remote to have it updated? You can load a new code over the telephone, you know? The remote has a modem in it. You just have to hold the phone handset over the remote.

I can confirm that One-For-All code 1224 contains the "Old RC" codes for the Oppo 971H. Do what others have instructed: load the latest 0302 firmware and then hold the Stop button on the player. My OFA Kameleon remote works fine with the 971H using this method.

I called OFA the other day to ask if they've gotten any updated codes for Oppo's "New RC", but they have not.

Why did you send in the remote to have it updated? You can load a new code over the telephone, you know? The remote has a modem in it. You just have to hold the phone handset over the remote.

Wow, I totally wasted two months sending that OFA back and forth in the mail. The forum is GREAT. I got this annoying issue resolved in TWO HOURs. THANK YOU, Josh Z, Ja Phule and Neuromancer for offering your expert advices.

Unusual problem:

Did the 0220 firmware upgrade a few days ago.

Put in a movie last night (Wallace and Gromit). Initially picture (DVD menu and previews)was flattened (as if letterboxed). In SETUP I changed "Wide" back to "Wide/SQZ," and problem solved. Proper aspect ratios. (Good movie, btw.)

Tonight, power up the Oppo, and BEFORE putting in a disk, the Oppo blue screen logo itself is flattened (as if letterboxed).

Checked SETUP, still had Wide/SQZ selected. Tried a DVD (Good Night & Good Luck), same problem, flattened image. Tried all different settings (wide/panscan, et al). No good.

Loaded brand new 0302 firmware just now.

No changes. Still flattened image no matter what.

Any ideas? I tried powering down, unplugging...no luck.

Any and all help appreciated. Please don't make me go back to the Bravo. :)

- Tom

The "fix": Not in the Setup menu, but on the remote. Clicked DVI through resolutions, and all resolutions EXCEPT 720 PSCAN are fine, non-flattened. Strange. But I'll take it. If anyone can explain why this would be, I'd appreciate it.

- Tom

The "fix": Not in the Setup menu, but on the remote. Clicked DVI through resolutions, and all resolutions EXCEPT 720 PSCAN are fine, non-flattened. Strange. But I'll take it. If anyone can explain why this would be, I'd appreciate it. Tom, that is very strange. If the other resolutions are OK, it is probably not a hardware issue. I can't think of anything else, except that maybe your display is reacting to the 3-4 pixel inactive border around the image. A handful of others have experienced this... their display scales the image down in one axis (or both).

Try this: In 720p mode, use the OPPO zoom and see if anything changes. If not, try changing inputs on the display while the OPPO is zoomed in, and see if that will force the image to "unflatten" itself. Tell us what happens.

Gary

Is it near the top of the wish list?I am about to buy the Bravo D1 for 1:1 pixel mapping. ETA would be helpful. Yes, 854x480 is near the top of our wishlist, but it is certainly not a high priority yet... there are still some defects that are being fixed. The ETA also depends how difficult it is to implement, so I'm afraid we have no idea yet.

Gary

Alex,

Your experience may differ but my Bravo D1 was nothing like my Oppo. I replaced it with the Oppo which from the moment I turned it on gave the best picture that I had seen.

This was initially with a IF4805 and then repeated when I got a Mits HC3000 projector.
Just a word of caution from one who spent many hours screwing with the D1.

Is the main office in Fremont?
Mountain View, near 237 and Middlefield. I was just there getting my new remote.

Is it near the top of the wish list?I am about to buy the Bravo D1 for 1:1 pixel mapping. ETA would be helpful.In going from the D1, that I owned for about a year and a half, to the 971H there was a meaningful step up in overall PQ. The only thing I do miss is the D1's option of 48Hz output.

Dan

Just watched "Good Night, And Good Luck" (Black & White) and "Seabiscuit" again (Color)....wow these 2 DVD's really look amazing on the Oppo!!! They really show off the fantastic performance the Oppo is capable of!! Anyone else seen a particular DVD recently that really had the 'wow' factor playing back on the OPPO?My set-up;- Oppo to 50" Samsung HLP5063W via DVI, Pioneer Elite VSX45TX via Coax Digital. Atlantic Tech 7.2 spk set-up.

hsinnott
We watched Wallace and Grommit "Attack of the Were-Rabbit" earlier this week, DVD transfer was perfect, colors were rich. I watched Hairy Potter GBF last night and so no dithering, macroblocking etc on our 4805. Love this player.

Need some help here! Finally got my oppo shipped last night, With the DVI-HDMI cable as a bonus. So I set the DVD player via 720p and 1080i to check the picture quality and to my horror, the colors are off, mainly the blue and appears all pixelated it's like if the red were off. At first I thought it was the DVD player that was defective so I connected the DVD player via component cables and the colors are just right. It is a shame because I can see the improvement over the PQ. Is it possible that the DVI-HDMI cable they gave me is bad quality or defective? If yes which cable do you recommend (around $50.00 us if possible) thanks in advance!

In going from the D1, that I owned for about a year and a half, to the 971H there was a meaningful step up in overall PQ. The only thing I do miss is the D1's option of 48Hz output.

Dan

Some Infocus 4805 owners have said the PQ of 1:1 pixel mapped Bravo D1 is a step above the Oppo. Even Infocus engineer Bob Williams uses the Bravo at his lab with Infocus projectors. While I like my Oppo very much, I find the picture a little soft and not as detailed as I want it to be.

Some Infocus 4805 owners have said the PQ of 1:1 pixel mapped Bravo D1 is a step above the Oppo. Even Infocus engineer Bob Williams uses the Bravo at his lab with Infocus projectors. While I like my Oppo very much, I find the picture a little soft and not as detailed as I want it to be.

Nothing is perfect. I think the Oppo is certainly popular because it does deliver a very good picture, appears to have good reliability, good audio quality, a fair price, and excellent support.
I suppose I would not trade all that for a slight bump in PQ. But if more than slight, I might give it some consideration.

Need some help here! Finally got my oppo shipped last night, With the DVI-HDMI cable as a bonus. So I set the DVD player via 720p and 1080i to check the picture quality and to my horror, the colors are off, mainly the blue and appears all pixelated it's like if the red were off. At first I thought it was the DVD player that was defective so I connected the DVD player via component cables and the colors are just right. It is a shame because I can see the improvement over the PQ. Is it possible that the DVI-HDMI cable they gave me is bad quality or defective? If yes which cable do you recommend (around $50.00 us if possible) thanks in advance!

I think a bad cable is unlikely, but not impossible. You might pick up another at RS, etc. that you can return for comparison. Or just ask Oppo to send out another, I'm sure they would do right away. No one else has complained about actually having a bad cable that I am aware of, although any cable being suspect always comes up now and then, but rarely does it seem to become a reality.

other sources by lowest price:

www.monoprice.com
www.ramelectronics.net
www.bluejeanscable.com

Some Infocus 4805 owners have said the PQ of 1:1 pixel mapped Bravo D1 is a step above the Oppo. Even Infocus engineer Bob Williams uses the Bravo at his lab with Infocus projectors. While I like my Oppo very much, I find the picture a little soft and not as detailed as I want it to be.

I think the D1's superiority in picture quality is probably only present when the fixed pixel display isn't 720p or 1080i, in which case the OPPO is probably equal or better.

But with a 4805 or other display that has a custom resolution (854x480) the ability to 1:1 pixel map from the D1 to the 4805 results (at least on my system) in a noticeable and significant step up in detail, plus the ability to get rid of 3:2 pulldown by using a 48hz or 72hz refresh. . .

Wes

Just on a hunch I hooked up my Panny RP-56 to my Hitachi CRT for another look see. It confirmed what was eating at me for months. The Oppo's picture looks softer to me too. I like the Panasonic's picture better. I don't know what happened. I was a little startled, actually. I thought the Oppo was the sharpest picture I'd ever seen. Maybe something has gone wrong with my Oppo, but everything seems to be working correctly. Although I certainly can't say for sure, I think the firmware update containing the shimmering fix was when the softening occurred. ???

hsinnott
We watched Wallace and Grommit "Attack of the Were-Rabbit" earlier this week, DVD transfer was perfect, colors were rich. I watched Hairy Potter GBF last night and so no dithering, macroblocking etc on our 4805. Love this player.
Thx for feedback- I actually have the Wallace and Grommit DVD just haven't got around to watching it yet but its now on my next 'to watch' DVD....I read several places the HPotter DVD is not the best quality so I didn't buy that one, but DVD reviews are sometimes hard to interpret as I've found the Reviewers viewing set up may sometimes not be ideal - what did u mean by 'dithering'...??....

While I like my Oppo very much, I find the picture a little soft and not as detailed as I want it to be.I did some direct A-B'ing between the D1 and the Oppo using a DVI switcher with the same material and found the Oppo to have greater detail. The D1 also had a slight digital edge or haze to it in comparison. If only Oppo could or would do customizable resolutions and judderless 48 Hz for film. :(

Dan

I did some direct A-B'ing between the D1 and the Oppo using a DVI switcher with the same material and found the Oppo to have greater detail. The D1 also had a slight digital edge or haze to it in comparison. If only Oppo could or would do customizable resolutions and judderless 48 Hz for film. :(

Dan

What display were you using?

Need some help here! Finally got my oppo shipped last night, With the DVI-HDMI cable as a bonus. So I set the DVD player via 720p and 1080i to check the picture quality and to my horror, the colors are off, mainly the blue and appears all pixelated it's like if the red were off. At first I thought it was the DVD player that was defective so I connected the DVD player via component cables and the colors are just right. It is a shame because I can see the improvement over the PQ. Is it possible that the DVI-HDMI cable they gave me is bad quality or defective? If yes which cable do you recommend (around $50.00 us if possible) thanks in advance!

You may also have a defective memory chip on the DVI board. Try the OPDV971H on another DVI or HDMI capable display device. Also, ask OPPO for another cable if you think the unit you have is working, but the cable itself is not.

What display were you using?

I'm wondering the same thing?

So I set the DVD player via 720p and 1080i to check the picture quality and to my horror, the colors are off, mainly the blue and appears all pixelated it's like if the red were off. At first I thought it was the DVD player that was defective so I connected the DVD player via component cables and the colors are just right. Just checking... Have you made a reasonable effort to calibrate your display's DVI/HDMI input to the new player? A badly calibrated display can look pretty awful too.

Gary

Just on a hunch I hooked up my Panny RP-56 to my Hitachi CRT for another look see. It confirmed what was eating at me for months. The Oppo's picture looks softer to me too. I like the Panasonic's picture better. I don't know what happened. I was a little startled, actually. I thought the Oppo was the sharpest picture I'd ever seen. Maybe something has gone wrong with my Oppo, but everything seems to be working correctly. Although I certainly can't say for sure, I think the firmware update containing the shimmering fix was when the softening occurred. ???GFletch, the shimmering fix removed the severe edge enhancement in the OPPO's image and made it more film-like. If you want that kind of sharpness back, set the OPPO's sharpness control to "Medium" or "High". Note that the shimmering fix improved the resolution and detail in the OPPO's image. The edge enhancement in an over-sharpened image can ruin the fine detail.

Experiment to find the best compromise for your tastes. Play with your display's sharpness control too.

Gary

Hi, I believe it was suggested that I post my problem in one of the Oppo expert forums :). I'm having three problems with my Oppo and I would like suggestions on how to calibrate the oppo/philips 42pf7220a set (I have already calibrated the set with AVIA whilst having trule life, ccs, noise reduction etc. off and everything else zeroed). For one, I feel that the picture is grainy, the picture is not smooth and life like. Two, I see hints of a purple/pink tinge in highlight areas, i.e. light reflecting off of a persons face or clothes. Lastly, I am seeing macro-blocking on out of focus walls behind the main subject. I appreciate any of your help to solve my three problems, thanks. lorkp, you're on the right track, but the purple/pink tinge is an indicator of a bad grayscale calibration.

For macroblocking, see this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7270763&&#post7270763). It is written specifically with macroblocking in mind, but it will also help with general digital noise artifacts like grain. Do bear in mind, though, that some movies are badly mastered to begin with, and nothing can rescue the poor image quality. Certain movies, like "War of the Worlds" have an intentionally grainy characteristic (for artistic expression), and others are grainy due to film quality. So use a few reference-grade movies to evaluate the results. By the way, even the gray ramps and other patterns in Avia look "grainy" by today's standards. Try DVE's gray ramps for clean and smooth!

Gary

I've run into my first set of discs that will not play on the Oppo. It's Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t Season One. All three discs lock up at the FBI warning after seven seconds.

Has anyone else experienced this problem, or do I possibly have a defective player?

lorkp, you're on the right track, but the purple/pink tinge is an indicator of a bad grayscale calibration.

For macroblocking, see this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7270763&&#post7270763). It is written specifically with macroblocking in mind, but it will also help with general digital noise artifacts like grain. Do bear in mind, though, that some movies are badly mastered to begin with, and nothing can rescue the poor image quality. Certain movies, like "War of the Worlds" have an intentionally grainy characteristic (for artistic expression), and others are grainy due to film quality. So use a few reference-grade movies to evaluate the results. By the way, even the gray ramps and other patterns in Avia look "grainy" by today's standards. Try DVE's gray ramps for clean and smooth!

Gary
Thanks very much for the reply, Gary. Do you have suggestions for calibrating the grayscale on the Philips 42PF7220A or Plasmas in general?

I've run into my first set of discs that will not play on the Oppo. It's Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t Season One. All three discs lock up at the FBI warning after seven seconds.

Has anyone else experienced this problem, or do I possibly have a defective player?

Known problem for that series. Season 2 does not have the same problem.

I've run into my first set of discs that will not play on the Oppo. It's Penn & Teller: Bullsh*t Season One. All three discs lock up at the FBI warning after seven seconds. Can you use the "Direct Play" trick to get around it? Or hit the Menu button as the "DVD-Video" message appears during disc load.

Gary

Thanks very much for the reply, Gary. Do you have suggestions for calibrating the grayscale on the Philips 42PF7220A or Plasmas in general?Sorry, I'm a DLP man. You'll have to ask on the threads for your display type.

Gary

Can you use the "Direct Play" trick to get around it? Or hit the Menu button as the "DVD-Video" message appears during disc load.

Gary

Nope.. It doesn't work.. I contacted Oppo and they got back to me within minutes about it being a known issue, and a workaround on the jitter I've been having in 480p (4:3 material).

I have to say I'm absolutely floored with the response time. Awesome customer service!

If i have a bunch of avi files, can I burn them as data files to a DVD and play them on the oppo?

As long as they're Divx compressed. Yup.

If i have a bunch of avi files, can I burn them as data files to a DVD and play them on the oppo?

I have only tried a couple DivX on mine and had no problems, and all (approx. 100 ) XviD files I have tried played fine on mine. I haven't had any of the problems with XviD files that sometimes occurred with my Phillips player.

how common is the out of sync issue? i just bought the refurbed model they were selling on the oppo site based on the pages of glowing reviews. i'm concerned because their firmware keeps fluctuating and the key issue seems to be audio sync. is this really a widespread problem, or is it an issue created by corner cases? i purchased the dvd player ahead of the tv i'm going to buy (the tv i want isn't released yet), so i have no real way of testing yet. i don't want to move my receiver to my computer room to see if i can force the audio out of sync.

second question - i saw in another post someone mention a pan problem in star wars episode 3. that's my dvd of choice for testing, and i did see stuttering during a pan in the movie. what i saw when just testing video on my dell 2005fpw monitor is that at the start of chapter 3 when the camera pans down it stutters. it doesn't seem to happen at any other point in the movie. is this a common problem? ie. is this what the previous poster was referring to? i believe the post i'm referring to was by neuromancer. if this isn't a known bug, i'll open a ticket with oppo support. i don't believe it's a monitor issue, but i included make and model just in case there are preexisting issues with this monitor/dvd player combination.

Tom, that is very strange. If the other resolutions are OK, it is probably not a hardware issue. I can't think of anything else, except that maybe your display is reacting to the 3-4 pixel inactive border around the image. A handful of others have experienced this... their display scales the image down in one axis (or both).

Try this: In 720p mode, use the OPPO zoom and see if anything changes. If not, try changing inputs on the display while the OPPO is zoomed in, and see if that will force the image to "unflatten" itself. Tell us what happens.

Gary

Thanks for the quick response, Gary.

While using zoom in the 720p mode, the black bars top and bottom remain. (FYI, these bars are roughly the same size as when I play a 2.35 movie on my 16x9 screen, so these black bars are sizeable). The picture zooms in, yes, but it's still flattened, and the bars are still there.

Interesting thing I didn't notice before: In 720p mode, there is a thin blue line at the bottom of the image, no matter what I play or zoom. Never noticed that before.

Anyway, I really don't see how the problem could be with the display (SX21). I used the Oppo for months in 720p without this problem, and then after I do the 0220 firmware this problem happens.

In any case, I'm fine with using the 1080 resolution, so I'm not dying to fix this. But it would be interesting to know what the source of the problem is.

- Tom

rocketmark

Audio sync issues is very dependent on the source material, the content device, and the display device. Because of this, it is hard to say that you will or will not experience syncing issues. I have personally not experienced widespread syncing issues. There have been the occassional movie where it has gone out of sync, but stopping and resuming playback has resolved those errors. However, some display devices, such as DLPs, buffer a lot of video. For this reason, audio and video can be out of sync all of the time, rather than intermittently. OPPO wants to make sure all users have proper sync, even if they are in the minority.

The SW: Episode III problem is known. There is no need to open a ticket. It has always been an issue and will unlikely be fixed in a future firmware release. Some of the stuttering could possibly be fixed, and the corrupted "A long time ago" text could be fixed, but the major pan down will always studder.

rocketmark
The SW: Episode III problem is known. There is no need to open a ticket. It has always been an issue and will unlikely be fixed in a future firmware release. Some of the stuttering could possibly be fixed, and the corrupted "A long time ago" text could be fixed, but the major pan down will always studder.

But what's odd is that it doesn't always stutter on mine. I'm running firmware 0302. If I let the episode III disc run right through from the beginning without doing any chapter forwarding, the pan is smooth and doesn't studder. If I use the chapter advance to go through the fbi logos, thx intro, etc, I see it. Even with 0302 I still have issues with the "a long time ago" text. Too bad. This player would be perfect if these issues could be fixed.

gtaylor74,

There are ways around the studder. Say, if you forward or rewind just to the lens flair, you will not see the studder. Sometimes, when you play the movie from the very beginning (through the THX/Lucas Film openings) you will not get a studder. But on a whole, it will studder 90% of the time.

neuromancer - thanks for the quick and solid reply. are there any generalities regarding the sync issue that can be drawn? is it more consistent on a dlp than say an lcd? i'm thinking of getting a new samsung 40" lcd, and while replacing the dvd player is the cheapest option if there is a problem - i'm surprisingly more loyal to the dvd player right now since i havn't forked over the cash for a tv. i guess i'm asking if there is a "recommended buying guide" of things to stear clear of? it doesn't seem like it, but this seems like the right place to ask if the samsung i'm thinking of buying (or any samsung lcds) have exhibited a sync issue while using the oppo and a receiver.

thanks again.

rocketmark

Audio sync issues is very dependent on the source material, the content device, and the display device. Because of this, it is hard to say that you will or will not experience syncing issues. I have personally not experienced widespread syncing issues. There have been the occassional movie where it has gone out of sync, but stopping and resuming playback has resolved those errors. However, some display devices, such as DLPs, buffer a lot of video. For this reason, audio and video can be out of sync all of the time, rather than intermittently. OPPO wants to make sure all users have proper sync, even if they are in the minority.

The SW: Episode III problem is known. There is no need to open a ticket. It has always been an issue and will unlikely be fixed in a future firmware release. Some of the stuttering could possibly be fixed, and the corrupted "A long time ago" text could be fixed, but the major pan down will always studder.

neuromancer - thanks for the quick and solid reply. are there any generalities regarding the sync issue that can be drawn? is it more consistent on a dlp than say an lcd? i'm thinking of getting a new samsung 40" lcd, and while replacing the dvd player is the cheapest option if there is a problem - i'm surprisingly more loyal to the dvd player right now since i havn't forked over the cash for a tv. i guess i'm asking if there is a "recommended buying guide" of things to stear clear of? it doesn't seem like it, but this seems like the right place to ask if the samsung i'm thinking of buying (or any samsung lcds) have exhibited a sync issue while using the oppo and a receiver. Rocketmark, lip-sync errors are cumulative... every little video delay in your system adds up. There are errors on the source DVD, delays in the player and delays in the display.

Also, studies have shown that we all have a certain tolerance before lip-sync errors become noticeable to us. Each person's tolerance is slightly different.

So then, considering the variablility of each person's tolerance, the variablility of errors on every DVD, and the variablility of delays in the player and display, it is impossible to predict whether you will notice them or not.

DLP seems to have a delay (constant) that may be longer than most, so the chances of seeing errors may be higher with DLP.

Nevertheless, OPPO is making very good progress toward reducing delays in the player, and if you are using its analog output, the player even allows you to compensate for delays in your display.

Gary

What does oppo have on the fixing block next anyone know?

What does oppo have on the fixing block next anyone know?

A working A/V fix (ie one that does not break video reproduction). Beyond that, no one knows.

Just checking... Have you made a reasonable effort to calibrate your display's DVI/HDMI input to the new player? A badly calibrated display can look pretty awful too.

Gary

The picture quality is superb to my eyes and I think I did a pretty good job calibrating it, but I never did touch anything beause it is the first time I use the DVI-HDMI connection. If there is a tweak to it, I'd like to know. I really wish it is only the cable. I've contacted OPPO digital and they recommended what you recommened, Trying to set the player on another display and they also think that the DVI board is defective.

Just starting to research the oppo as an economical upgrade. This is a great forum to look. But I have to read over 10,000 posts?!?!? :confused: to cover this topic in just these two threads:

Oppo DV971H FAQ / Brain Dump
Oppo DV971H Faroudja DCDi

AAAaaarrrggghhh!!

I hope I can find the Cliff Notes version! :p

Just watched "Good Night, And Good Luck" (Black & White) and "Seabiscuit" again (Color)....wow these 2 DVD's really look amazing on the Oppo!!! They really show off the fantastic performance the Oppo is capable of!! Anyone else seen a particular DVD recently that really had the 'wow' factor playing back on the OPPO?My set-up;- Oppo to 50" Samsung HLP5063W via DVI, Pioneer Elite VSX45TX via Coax Digital. Atlantic Tech 7.2 spk set-up.

The Indiana Jones re-mastered Trilogy is Awsome!

Just starting to research the oppo as an economical upgrade. This is a great forum to look. But I have to read over 10,000 posts?!?!? :confused: to cover this topic in just these two threads:

Oppo DV971H FAQ / Brain Dump
Oppo DV971H Faroudja DCDi

AAAaaarrrggghhh!!

I hope I can find the Cliff Notes version! :p

This is the FAQ on the first page fo this thread.

Dave

Well.... I updated to 0302 and watched Harry Potter (Goblet of Fire) last night. Everything looked good at 1080i in terms of video playback. The DVD mastered quality sucks though.... over 2 hours of movie on dual layer DVD just doesn't cut it anymore. This is why I'm looking forward to BR-DVD release. I was expecting better DVD transfer quality after watching the 1080p QT trailers and reason being a newer title release. I was disapointed. I've been spoiled by oppo.... once you've watch good DVD transfer titles with oppo.... poor ones look just unacceptable.


Well, I said I'd post on Harry Potter GOF when the R2 came out as there were complaints about the oppo's handling of the region 1.

So, it's dark, very dark for about 2/3rds of the film. But there is no grain at all and no artifacting/EE to speak of on the region 2 PAL version. Sometimes the constant grayness does mean things are indistinct, but that's not a fault of the transfer. Overall I'd say, considering that the film was originally dark and that the oppo ae700 combo doesn't always fare too well with dark films, the pq was very good if not quite excellent (7.5 out of 10). Filmlike, smooth, rich in detail (if a tad soft) no artifacts and not one trace of macroblocking (truelife off) even with all those misty scenes!

Maybe it was because I'd been told it would be bad and I want to be contrary, but I was pleasantly surprised at the pq.

Dave

What does oppo have on the fixing block next anyone know?

They still need to work on the subtitle and angle mark issues, but I don't know how far along they are on that.

dgkp
Agree with your assessment of HPGOF, its a very dark movie with lots of digital fog for effect, not the fault of OPPO or the transfer at all, I think that was director's intent.

dgkp
Agree with your assessment of HPGOF, its a very dark movie with lots of digital fog for effect, not the fault of OPPO or the transfer at all, I think that was director's intent.

There's a discussion about HPGOF in the DVD section. In short, most everybody agrees the R1 transfer is awful. I personally was worried there was something wrong with my projector and or Oppo player.

A nice recommendation of the Oppo here http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/business/14140097.htm

Here's a clip from a newspaper column by Don Lindich:

"An upconverting DVD player takes the progressive-scan DVD player a step further. Instead of simply assembling the 480-line picture progressively, it converts it to an HDTV resolution such as 720p or 1080i before sending it to the TV. It does not create an HDTV image, but if the upconversion is done well, you will get a better picture than you would with a 480p DVD player. If this upconversion is not done well, it will have picture defects and may look much worse than a standard 480p image. Not all players do upconversion well, and some have been noticeably bad, one of several reasons I recommend the Oppo so strongly. It's only $200, has proven to be a top-grade performer, and is very well supported by the manufacturer. Though it outputs 1080i and not 1080p, I do think it will yield a better image than your 480p progressive scan player and is worth the investment. You can see it at www.oppodigital.com."

I wrote Oppo inquiring if they had any upconversion DVD players over component solutions and they told me that the next batch of players will have upconversion over component capability. I have a wide screen 32' flat 1080i display that only has component inputs.

Great! :)

Here is the email they sent me:

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OPPO OPDV971H hd dvd player

There is no component based upconversion. All upconversion is done
through the DVI-D output. Future DVD players will support component
based upconversion. The first of which will be released sometime late
April.


Best Regards,

Customer Service
OPPO Digital, Inc.
453 Ravendale Dr, Suite D
Mountain View, CA 94043

Just checking in. I have *not* dropped off this planet. Very, very busy.

Paul

Hello everyone,

I have lots of tearing in 720p mode with my oppo on my Hitashi TX200 Projector...

- I have the last oppo firmware installed (tried several ones, including BBKs ones)
- PAL DVD with oppo set to PAL and truelife off, video 2 mode
- TX200 give me correct info (720p - 50Hz)

no problem at all in 1080i mode.

Does someone have this problem ?
Does it come from the oppo (firmware ?) or maybe the TX200 ?

Thanks for any possible help.

(ps: thanks to Neuromancer for guiding me here ;))

There's a discussion about HPGOF in the DVD section. In short, most everybody agrees the R1 transfer is awful. I personally was worried there was something wrong with my projector and or Oppo player.
Just to clarify, I was talking about the region 2 PAL version only just released. Judging by comments it's still dark but in all likelihood better than the region 1 appears to be (by the captures I've seen anyway).

Dave

i just got my unit from amazon, no dvi ---> hdmi cable. now i gotta wait to get one from monoprice.com.

was looking forward to playing with my toy.

Try contacting Oppo first. You may be pleasantly surprised.

Dana

Hello everyone,

I have lots of tearing in 720p mode with my oppo on my Hitashi TX200 Projector...

- I have the last oppo firmware installed (tried several ones, including BBKs ones)
- PAL DVD with oppo set to PAL and truelife off, video 2 mode
- TX200 give me correct info (720p - 50Hz)

no problem at all in 1080i mode.

Does someone have this problem ?
Does it come from the oppo (firmware ?) or maybe the TX200 ?

Thanks for any possible help.

(ps: thanks to Neuromancer for guiding me here ;))

How are you connecting the two?

Does it work okay at 60Hz?

i just got my unit from amazon, no dvi ---> hdmi cable. now i gotta wait to get one from monoprice.com.

was looking forward to playing with my toy.

Thats the only disadvantage to ordering from Amazon...they dont include the cable...contact Oppo, I've heard they will consider sending one out even if you didnt buy the player from them...great company no?? :D

I wrote Oppo inquiring if they had any upconversion DVD players over component solutions and they told me that the next batch of players will have upconversion over component capability. [...]

I believe that future Oppo players will also be HDCP compliant. I.e., if the original DVD is HDCP protected, you will "technically" only be able to upconvert it via HDMI. (I'm sure some hacked third-party firmware will pop-up shortly after this player is introduced.)

Also, Oppo has made it very clear that the 970H, coming out in April, is a "daughter" product, meaning the 971H is still their flagship upconverting player from a picture quality standpoint. I'm pretty sure the 970H will not offer Faroudja upconversion, but rather a solution developed in-house.

/steve

Thats the only disadvantage to ordering from Amazon...they dont include the cable...contact Oppo, I've heard they will consider sending one out even if you didnt buy the player from them...great company no?? :D

Weird... I got mine from amazon delivered about 2-3 weeks ago and it included both DVI-DVI cable and DVI-HDMI. Only downside was it had the black glass buttons control but I got the new one (glow in the dark) from oppo for free, they rock!

Weird... I got mine from amazon delivered about 2-3 weeks ago and it included both DVI-DVI cable and DVI-HDMI. Only downside was it had the black glass buttons control but I got the new one (glow in the dark) from oppo for free, they rock!
I think the problem with ordering from Amazon is that it's a gamble -- they tend to order their stock in large quantities from Oppo, so you're never sure whether the unit you're getting came from Oppo six months ago, before they started including both cables, and with the old black remote, or it might have been packed only a few weeks ago, with the cables and the new remote.

I think the problem with ordering from Amazon is that it's a gamble -- they tend to order their stock in large quantities from Oppo, so you're never sure whether the unit you're getting came from Oppo six months ago, before they started including both cables, and with the old black remote, or it might have been packed only a few weeks ago, with the cables and the new remote.

dealing with oppo so far has been amazing to say the least. too bad they only make this dvd player. I send em over my receipt from amazon and they are "dispatching" a cable over. WOOHOO.

what movie would you guys say makes the biggest difference with this player?

I'm pretty sure the 970H will not offer Faroudja upconversion, but rather a solution developed in-house.

/steve

Now how interesting would that be. Don't rely on what others have made and Oppo has to fix the problems around, but just make their own solution. Although I am sure that is very costly and I would think a push to go to the masses would have to be in order to fit the bill.

I just watched SWIII. No problems! I paused several times (kids), and went back to the menu.

I bought my Oppo Dec. 2004. Sammy HLP-5674 DLP display.

Just thought I'd chime in.

Now how interesting would that be. Don't rely on what others have made and Oppo has to fix the problems around, but just make their own solution. Although I am sure that is very costly and I would think a push to go to the masses would have to be in order to fit the bill. The DV970H will use an MTK chipset for de-interlacing. Please see this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6760401&&#post6760401) for discussion of the DV970H.

Gary

Question about the 0302 firmware. I'm running the 1022 firmware right now due to the image shift problem with my Panny 900 PJ. I don't really ever run into audio sync problems. I don't watch PAL or DIVX discs. Any reason I should bother with the upgrade to 0302? Any PQ improvements?

Thanks,
Sean

If you use 1080i as the DVI output you may the picture a bit more stable with less "jitter" on the latest firmware. If you're happy withn 1022, then mission accomplished -- stick with it until the situation warrants a change.

Paul

Question about the 0302 firmware. I'm running the 1022 firmware right now due to the image shift problem with my Panny 900 PJ. I don't really ever run into audio sync problems. I don't watch PAL or DIVX discs. Any reason I should bother with the upgrade to 0302? Any PQ improvements?

Thanks,
Sean


It does get rid of the shift problem and is useful if you play PAL discs as it's properly syncs with the panny.

Dave

Hi

if this is looked upon as a crosspost: I can delete it... I thought, this might be interesting for Oppo-users out there: picture settings for a Sanyo Z4 in combination with the Oppo
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Finally, I can post the 2 sets of values, that I have been experimenting with. I hope, they will be to your satisfaction. One caveat beforehand: both sets need HDMI set to L2 at the Z4, and I am not quite sure, if they still perfectly track to D65 - I am not able to measure them. Since the Oppo was developped exclusively with DVI-output in mind, the component outputs will not provide a good picture quality and the settings are useless there.
A big thanks goes to ROne and avbuzz.com, who's findings are the base for these sets of values.
I have been using Peter Finzel's great Test-Disc (PAL), which provides color-decoder-tests, BTB and WTW tests, which you will need to adjust your player perfectly. I strongly suggest, that you fine-tune my posted settings with this or a similar test-disc, since the color-decoder, your screen, residual light in your room, NTSC or PAL etc. might need a slight correction of these values.
The Oppo is set to 0 at brightness, color, contrast etc. and OFF for all picture enhancements like sharpness, CCS, TruLife etc.!

Here is setting #1
(based upon avbuzz.com and modified for the Oppo as good as I was able to do...)

First, choose CREATIVE CINEMA from the presets - this is most important (and don't forget to store as a user preset afterwards!)

Brightness -2
Contrast +3
(these values were found with the BTB and WTW tests, so that +2 valued moving objects were still visible. Please control/readjust slightly for clipping at whites and blacks with the normal, two-in-one black-to-gray and gray-to-white grayscale. The 0%/2% and 98%/100% must be distinguishable!)
Color +5
Tint +3
(those values were found with the blue filter in front of the lens and the multi-color-pattern, where you have to adjust color and tint, so that certain patterns do match ("whites" and "blacks") Match them as best as you can and finetune them afterwards with color management

Color Temp user
Red +12
Green -1
Blue -1

Sharpness between 0 and -5 to your liking (-5 is about no additional artificial sharpness)
Lamp control: lowest setting, the bulb with the shadow
Gamma 0

Lens iris -44

Advanced menu
Gain R +13
Gain G +11
Gain B -5
Offset R -15
Offset G -11
Offset B +3
Gamma R 0
Gamma G 0
Gamma B -1

Lamp Iris Auto
Auto black stretch Off
Contrast enhancement Off
Transient improvement Off or L1 to your liking

Color management:
Pink/Purple tone (taken from the test disc color pattern: Color level one notch to the right
Darkish brown (dark skin tone) COlor level two notches to the right, Phase two notches to the left
Dark navy Color level two notches to the right, phase two notches to the left

I strongly suggest to do the finetuning of the blue-filter color-pattern with the color-management: choose every color in that pattern and adjust it, so that "light patterns" match and "dark patterns" match, then choose a clear outdoor shot of a face and adjust skintone. Make sure it does have not reddish nor a greenish tint. Look for some yellowish-sandy tone as well and correct that to be natural.

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Here is setting #2
(based upon ROnes findings and modified for the Oppo the best I was able to do...)

First, choose LIVING from the presets - this is most important

Brightness +7
Contrast +7
(these values were found with the BTB and WTW tests, so that +2 valued moving objects were still visible. Please control/readjust slightly for clipping at whites and blacks with the normal, two-in-one black-to-gray and gray-to-white grayscale. The 0%/2% and 98%/100% must be distinguishable!)

Color +11
Tint +5
(those values were found with the blue filter in front of the lens and the multi-pattern, where you have to adjust color and tint, so that certain patterns do match ("whites" and "blacks")

Color Temp user
Red +10
Green -1
Blue -8

Sharpness between 0 and -5 to your liking (-5 is about not additional artificial sharpness)

Gamma -1
Lamp control A1

Lens iris -40

Advanced menu
Gain R +2
Gain G +3
Gain B -5
Offset R -15
Offset G -13
Offset B -6
Gamma R 0
Gamma G 0
Gamma B -0

Lamp Iris Auto
Auto black stretch Off
Contrast enhancement Off
Transient improvement Off or L1 to your liking

Color management:
Pink/Purple tone (taken from the test disc color pattern: Color phase two notches to the right
Sky-tone (Picked from a movie, seems a light blue) Color level one notch to the right, Phase one notch to the left
Darkish brown (dark skin tone) COlor level two notches to the right
Sun-lit straw (Yellowish green) color level two notches to the right
Sandy desert: color level two notches to the right, phase two to the left
Grass: color level one notch to the right, phase one to the left


I strongly suggest to do the finetuning of the blue-filter color-pattern with the color-management: choose every color in that pattern and adjust it, so that "light patterns" match and "dark patterns" match, then choose a clear outdoor shot of a face and adjust skintone. Make sure it does have not reddish nor a greenish tint. Look for some yellowish-sandy tone as well and correct that to be natural.
For this setting, 7 color management positions were used. Especially look for the greenish and reddish and yellowish tint, this setting has with the Oppo.
Unfortunately, I was not able to correct this setting to be as natural as setting #1, faces still are a bit too sunny, at certain movies, there still is this golden-yellowish tint - maybe, some of you can try to improve this setting

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General appearance note: to me, setting #1 provides a better, more natural color balance and a good resolution of low level black detail
Setting #2 has much more punch and contrast and perceived depth, night-scenes though can look a bit like they have been using too many lamps to light the night (still black, but like a brightly moonlit night...).
Star Wars looks great with #2 (Cat Womand was way too golden with it!), Million Dollar Baby and Cat woman better with #1....

Again: thanks for all, who's input and expertise I could use as a base for these settings - I found these setting strictly visually, no measuring equipment was used. So who knows, if I am still at D65 here.....

Anyway: have fun experimenting and give me some feedback, how these settings look at your home!

How are you connecting the two?

Does it work okay at 60Hz?



DVI-HDMI connection and yes it's working good with ntsc discs (60Hz)

I know 1080i is actually 540p interlaced....does that mean the best setting for my Oppo matched with my Toshiba 1080p set would be 540p or is it 1080i???

Normally from what I have experienced, the best output from my cable STB to my TV is 1080i but I dont have 540p as a choice on it so I think thats the best solution...but given I can utilize 540p with the Oppo is that the best choice?

Thanks in advance for your input... :D

I have a newbie question.

I have a 16:9 Sony CRT TV and have it set to Full. When I play "Widescreen" DVDs on the OPPO, sometimes there are black bars at the top and bottom, and sometimes the picture fits my entire screen. Why is this?

I have a newbie question.

I have a 16:9 Sony CRT TV and have it set to Full. When I play "Widescreen" DVDs on the OPPO, sometimes there are black bars at the top and bottom, and sometimes the picture fits my entire screen. Why is this?

There will be black bars or no black bars depending upon the aspect ratio the movie was shot in....2.35 / 1 or 2.40 / 1 will have black bars as they are in a wider aspect ratio than 1.85 to 1 which is 16:9 and will show no black bars... :)

There will be black bars or no black bars depending upon the aspect ratio the movie was shot in....2.35 / 1 or 2.40 / 1 will have black bars as they are in a wider aspect ratio than 1.85 to 1 which is 16:9 and will show no black bars... :)
Ought to note that even 1:1.85 films will show small but noticable black bars on a 1:1.78 or 16:9 TV if there is no overscan or component distortion.

Dave

I know 1080i is actually 540p interlaced....does that mean the best setting for my Oppo matched with my Toshiba 1080p set would be 540p or is it 1080i???

Normally from what I have experienced, the best output from my cable STB to my TV is 1080i but I dont have 540p as a choice on it so I think thats the best solution...but given I can utilize 540p with the Oppo is that the best choice?

Thanks in advance for your input... :D



I recommend you bring up a resolution test pattern and see which setting looks best. This can help you spot differences. Also have a look at the multiburst patterns and check for a smooth even look to the upper frequencies.

I know 1080i is actually 540p interlaced...

No, it's really not. At all.

1080i has twice the resolution of 540p, just presented interlaced instead of progressive. They are not the same thing. Not even close.

I have a newbie question.

I have a 16:9 Sony CRT TV and have it set to Full. When I play "Widescreen" DVDs on the OPPO, sometimes there are black bars at the top and bottom, and sometimes the picture fits my entire screen. Why is this?


As a follow-up to bkazepis response, anything more than 1.78 to 1, MAY have blackbars top and bottom, depending on your set's overscan, but it's fairly common for bars to start just showing around 1.85:1.

Look for the fine print on the back of the DVD box, there will probably be a ratio there to tell you what to expect. anything larger than 1.78 can have bars (though probably won't), OVER 1.85-1.90 probably will have bars, and 2.35 for sure should have bars (if you dont have bars for a DVD listed as 2.35, either your picture is being distorted(stretched vertically) or you are cutting off a lot of image from the sides of your picture.

The folks who make the pic decide how they want the audience to see it.

Thanks,
Rick

So, I don't mean to throw up this old chestnut again, but is there anybody local to Oppo who happens to have bought the recent Talking Heads single disc releases? Brick is still one of those major release DVD-A/Dual Disc titles that barfs royally on the Oppo. If the recently released single-disc issues exhibit the same problem, and if someone in the sunny land of Cali would be so kind as to donate their disc for testing, it'd help out a bunch of us. These titles are good enough that they're preventing me from using the Oppo as my principal DVD-A player in favour of my trust old RP-82.

Search these many posts if you don't know what I'm referring to...:)

Sadly, the new firmware has done nothing on this front.

No, it's really not. At all.

1080i has twice the resolution of 540p, just presented interlaced instead of progressive. They are not the same thing. Not even close.

This is -so- not the thread to be discussing this, but I think it's a bit unfair to say they're not close. Native signal, sure, the 1080 stored signal would every other frame hold twice the res, but with an upconverting player it's a bit more dodgy. FWIW, on my sony in service mode, if I choose 540p or 1080i the incoming signal is listed at 1080i, and 540p doesn't suffer the same "ringing" that the 1080 signal carries.

Still, Josh is my LD hero, so I'm pointing this out with the utmost of humilty.

So, I don't mean to throw up this old chestnut again, but is there anybody local to Oppo who happens to have bought the recent Talking Heads single disc releases? Brick is still one of those major release DVD-A/Dual Disc titles that barfs royally on the Oppo. If the recently released single-disc issues exhibit the same problem, and if someone in the sunny land of Cali would be so kind as to donate their disc for testing, it'd help out a bunch of us. These titles are good enough that they're preventing me from using the Oppo as my principal DVD-A player in favour of my trust old RP-82.

Search these many posts if you don't know what I'm referring to...:)

Sadly, the new firmware has done nothing on this front.
The challenge here escapes me. Why not just make a copy of the disk(s) and mail 'em to Oppo with a note explaining the issues?

I work right around the corner from the Oppo office. If someone wants to send me their disk, or a copy, I'd be happy to hand-carry it to Oppo. I will not be the middleman passing messages back and forth, or trying to explain the issues to Oppo, but I can at least get it to them personally if it can't be mailed.

Isn't 540p = 960x540? I think when I cycle through the resolutions on the Oppo, my projector shows 1920x540 when in 540 mode (it will display 1080i in 1080i mode). Is the oppo sending 1920x540 or is my projector seeing 540p as 1920x540?

Isn't 540p = 960x540? I think when I cycle through the resolutions on the Oppo, my projector shows 1920x540 when in 540 mode (it will display 1080i in 1080i mode). Is the oppo sending 1920x540 or is my projector seeing 540p as 1920x540?
Could it be that 540p is a PAL setting? When I am changing resolutions on my Oppo my set doesn't even display a picture at the 540p setting - just a blank screen.

This is -so- not the thread to be discussing this, but I think it's a bit unfair to say they're not close. Native signal, sure, the 1080 stored signal would every other frame hold twice the res, but with an upconverting player it's a bit more dodgy. FWIW, on my sony in service mode, if I choose 540p or 1080i the incoming signal is listed at 1080i, and 540p doesn't suffer the same "ringing" that the 1080 signal carries.

Let's look at it in terms of raw pixels. A 540p signal is 960x540. A 1080i signal is 1920x1080. They are clearly not the same thing.

Now, when you're talking upconverting a DVD image, yes it's true that neither one gives you any more real picture content than the DVD itself stores. They both interpolate pixels. I'm not arguing that, and on a CRT display the two resolutions use the same scan rate, so in some cases upscaling to 540p may work better than upscaling to 1080i. I just don't want people to assume that 1080i = 540p, which is not the case. That's all.

The challenge here escapes me. Why not just make a copy of the disk(s) and mail 'em to Oppo with a note explaining the issues?

I work right around the corner from the Oppo office. If someone wants to send me their disk, or a copy, I'd be happy to hand-carry it to Oppo. I will not be the middleman passing messages back and forth, or trying to explain the issues to Oppo, but I can at least get it to them personally if it can't be mailed.

So adorable, a person raised in the world of post-DeCSS goodness, where anyone can make a copy of a dvd.

Alas, my friend, the MLP-encoded DVD-A layer of the DualDisc is, for all intents and purposes, uncopyable. They actually, believe it or not, got the copy protection right. You can do really weasely things like capture the streams to seperate wav files, but that's not the 1:1 goodness that you get making a normal DVD rip.

Still, the offer is very much appreicated, I too would be confused as to why a copy wouldn't suffice if I haven't been wading in the muck of competing hi-rez formats for several years now. At the least, it's prepared me for the forthcoming hell of Blu/HD-DVD.

And, for the record, the Oppo -does- play the DVD-V "layer" of the DD, it's just the DVD-A where it barfs at the 0 second mark of any track. As indicated earlier, this is a known problem that has been repaired with firmware with several other players (noteable Pioneer), and is indicative of a sloppy software implementation (by either manufacturer or disc-masterer, depending which side you bat for...)

Let's look at it in terms of raw pixels. A 540p signal is 960x540. A 1080i signal is 1920x1080. They are clearly not the same thing.

Agreed, of course. Then again, anybody actually test whether the Oppo's sending out 1920x540? Sure, it's unstandard res, but this is all a hack on the 480i source, no?

Whatever you throw at a (non-HD) fixed pixel display is going to have funkiness atop of funkiness, so I think a better suggestion is to throw up some test patterns and see which looks best, then throw on some scenes and see what makes you happy.

That may be naive, but it's a good start methinks...

Now, full HD-res material, and HD-pixel depth display, and now it's a much bigger deal...

Can anyone with experience using the 971 and DVD+R dual layered discs comment on how this machine handles these discs? Currently I have a Sony upconverting megachanger, and it has a difficult time at the layer break. My Denon 2200 and Philips DIVX player has no issues with them, but for some reason these discs go tits up in the Sony. I'm looking to replace the Philips with the Oppo and would like some feedback on how it handles these discs (and yes, I did a search, but at 150+ pages, my eyeballs about fell out near to page 45).

Can anyone with experience using the 971 and DVD+R dual layered discs comment on how this machine handles these discs? Currently I have a Sony upconverting megachanger, and it has a difficult time at the layer break. My Denon 2200 and Philips DIVX player has no issues with them, but for some reason these discs go tits up in the Sony. I'm looking to replace the Philips with the Oppo and would like some feedback on how it handles these discs (and yes, I did a search, but at 150+ pages, my eyeballs about fell out near to page 45).

I've been using Memorex and Verbatim DVD+R DL media. I've backedup about 50 dsics so far, and not one has not played on the OPDV971H.

Thanks Neuromancer. I have about 200 Verbatim D/L discs (and a few Ritek). Guess I'll go ahead and order the Oppo (if they are in stock). Thanks again.

Hello everyone,

I have lots of tearing in 720p mode with my oppo on my Hitashi TX200 Projector...

- I have the last oppo firmware installed (tried several ones, including BBKs ones)
- PAL DVD with oppo set to PAL and truelife off, video 2 mode
- TX200 give me correct info (720p - 50Hz)

no problem at all in 1080i mode.

Does someone have this problem ?
Does it come from the oppo (firmware ?) or maybe the TX200 ?

Thanks for any possible help.

(ps: thanks to Neuromancer for guiding me here ;))


no idea ?

no idea ?
Not really, no. But it sounds like a problem of communication between oppo and pj at 720p. Have you told oppo about it? Also, if 1080i works, stick with it.

Dave

Thanks, I ll ask oppo...

Can anyone with experience using the 971 and DVD+R dual layered discs comment on how this machine handles these discs? Currently I have a Sony upconverting megachanger, and it has a difficult time at the layer break. My Denon 2200 and Philips DIVX player has no issues with them, but for some reason these discs go tits up in the Sony. I'm looking to replace the Philips with the Oppo and would like some feedback on how it handles these discs (and yes, I did a search, but at 150+ pages, my eyeballs about fell out near to page 45).

DL works, or at least it can, but if you check out comments at http://www.videohelp.com some people report problems with certain brands.

Hello everyone,

I have lots of tearing in 720p mode with my oppo on my Hitashi TX200 Projector...

- I have the last oppo firmware installed (tried several ones, including BBKs ones)
- PAL DVD with oppo set to PAL and truelife off, video 2 mode
- TX200 give me correct info (720p - 50Hz)

no problem at all in 1080i mode.

Does someone have this problem ?
Does it come from the oppo (firmware ?) or maybe the TX200 ? Sorry, I have never experienced a tearing problem at 720p on the OPPO, and nobody else has reported that here either.

Gary

Can anyone with experience using the 971 and DVD+R dual layered discs comment on how this machine handles these discs? Currently I have a Sony upconverting megachanger, and it has a difficult time at the layer break. My Denon 2200 and Philips DIVX player has no issues with them, but for some reason these discs go tits up in the Sony. I'm looking to replace the Philips with the Oppo and would like some feedback on how it handles these discs (and yes, I did a search, but at 150+ pages, my eyeballs about fell out near to page 45).

Yes, I now have great success with +R DL burns on the OPPO. For me, the key was in getting two very specific things right:

.1) The book-type...set in the burner itself...needs to be set to DVD-ROM. Most burners have utilities available to set the book-type. IMGBurn, a free download, will do it for virtually all burners. Non DVD-ROM DL burns will NOT play in my OPPO.

.2) The layer-break must be in the correct place or it is highly likely that the OPPO will choke on it. Here is my guaranteed method that has yet to fail me: Rip the DVD as an ISO file with DVD Decrypter. The program will automatically create an MDS file with the same name as the ISO you create. Then burn the DL disc using IMGBurn. When you browse to the file, just select the MDS, and not the ISO, for a DL disc and it will place the layer-break in exactly the right place.

This is the process I have found that ALWAYS maintains the precise integrity of the original image. Nero, DVD Fab, DVD Shrink, and every other program I have used all move the layer-break and create problems during the transition. It may not be the case for every unit, but my OPPO is quite sensitive to moving the break.

-Toonces

Toonces, that's exactly how I burn the DL media. Decrypter does a great job. I remember the first disc I bought (at around $15) I used Nero and needless to say, it was a mess. Never had a bad burn using Decrypter though.

Toonces, that's exactly how I burn the DL media. Decrypter does a great job. I remember the first disc I bought (at around $15) I used Nero and needless to say, it was a mess. Never had a bad burn using Decrypter though.

*cries over Decrypters grave*

I use decrypter to create the ISo and burn, no problems here. Quality of media is also important. It seems Verbatim DVD+R DL is the best DL media out. Other media do not compare. Depending on your burner, burning at a higher rated speed than the disc supports "may" cause more errors on the disc also.

no idea ?

Han Solo,

I had been experiencing "tearing" on PAL discs on my Panny plasma. I had the "TV Type" set to "Auto" on the Oppo, which should display PAL input as PAL output and NTSC input as NTSC output. Evidently, the Panny was not fully PAL compliant, so I was able to correct the issue by setting the "TV Type" on the Oppo to "NTSC", thereby forcing a (very respectable)PAL=>NTSC conversion that eliminated the "tearing".
As you've set your Oppo to the "PAL" TV Type, you might like to try using "AUTO" or "NTSC", in the possible event that your Hitachi is formatted as an NTSC display (though that would seem unlikely if you are in Belgium).
That is the only possible corrective action I can think of....
Good luck.

Peter

*cries over Decrypters grave*

You probably already know this, but if you just need to reliably burn, the original Decrypter author updated ImgBurn to v1.20 last month.

"ImgBurn will try its very best to burn your DVD-Video double layer images using the layer break you've specified in the IFO files, but it can also calculate the best place for you, to save you the trouble."

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/imgburn.cfm

/steve

You probably already know this, but if you just need to reliably burn, the original Decrypter author updated ImgBurn to v1.20 last month.

"ImgBurn will try its very best to burn your DVD-Video double layer images using the layer break you've specified in the IFO files, but it can also calculate the best place for you, to save you the trouble."

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/imgburn.cfm

/steve

Yeah, I saw that. But I still have a soft spot (and HD space) for the DVD Decrypter.

You probably already know this, but if you just need to reliably burn, the original Decrypter author updated ImgBurn to v1.20 last month.

"ImgBurn will try its very best to burn your DVD-Video double layer images using the layer break you've specified in the IFO files, but it can also calculate the best place for you, to save you the trouble."

http://www.afterdawn.com/software/cdr_software/cdr_tools/imgburn.cfm Thanks Steve, I didn't know this. Decrypter and ImgBurn obviously make a valuable pair.

Gary

Yes, I now have great success with +R DL burns on the OPPO. For me, the key was in getting two very specific things right: Good post Toonces. Very useful for those having trouble with DL burns. Thanks.

Gary

...I still have a soft spot (and HD space) for the DVD Decrypter. Hear, hear!

Good post Toonces. Very useful for those having trouble with DL burns. Thanks.

Gary

You are most welcome!

IMGBurn is designed to integrate itself into the final update of Decrypter. Basically, it becomes the burning half of DVD Decrypter. These programs are exceptionally easy to use and detailed guides for both are readily available on-line.

-Toonces

Toonces T. Cat,

I would message Paul and see if he can't add your comments about DVD+R DL burning to the main portion of the FAQ. Could prove useful for future purchasers and current users as well.

All of my DL discs are rips of unsubtitled films that I have added subs to. I haven't gone through any sort of process to keep the layer-breaks in place and they have all worked just fine. My normal procedure is to demux/rip with DVD Decrypter, bring the elements in to DVD Lab Pro and reauthor with English subs, compile the disc and create an image file, and finally burn with DVD Decrypter. I find that DVD Decrypter is the all around best burning software for making any kind of disc compatible with any DVD player, at least I've had the best luck with it.

It is a good post, consider it done! Will add it later this evening.

Paul

Sorry to change the subject so abruptly.... Noob to Oppo thread... Have perused the FAQ and thread

Looking at the Oppo to pair with my new NEC 50XR5 :D Looked but I don't see anybody yet with that combo so maybe I will be the ginuea pig. Currently I have a Denon 1720, 480p fed over component no Faroudja, thus no MBE and the picture is pretty darned good... but $50 more I could have the Oppo.

Seems like there is a lot of good features with the Oppo. I especially like the firmware update and the fact that the company seems to be focused on the product, actively taking feedback, refining the firmware, releasing fixes on a regular basis, firmly committed to customer support etc (I'm a SW guy, thats really incredible for a machine at this price point). ... So lots of good there...

Now trying NOT to focus too much on some of the issues, cause I believe every player will have issues. The MBE is what it is (I am also looking at the Denon 1920) so I will just have to see how it pairs with my NEC panel. ... that would be the ginuea pig part... (might need a litle help here)

But what is the frequency/severity of current Defects 1-4. Are they rare or is the lip sync issue something that most of you or only few of you experience etc, do experience the pixel border and the 4:3 Pillar Boxing, if so how much do they bother you?

Any opinions on whether I will see a marked improvment in Video quality with the Oppo via DVI->HDMI?

Also are they releasing any new players soon?

Wish it came in black....

Isn't 540p = 960x540? I think when I cycle through the resolutions on the Oppo, my projector shows 1920x540 when in 540 mode (it will display 1080i in 1080i mode). Is the oppo sending 1920x540 or is my projector seeing 540p as 1920x540?

Replying to my own message. :)

I checked with Oppo, the 540 mode on the Oppo is indeed 1920x540, not 540p (960x540).