Toonces,

Your DL burn tips have been added to the first post's "TIPS" section.

Thanks again,

Paul

silly question. Would a native pal DVD show better on the oppo than a native NTSC? the NTSC would upconvert to 720p, but the pal would stay at 540p, right? but isn't the NTSC really 480p upconverted to 720p - making native PAL superior?

I get SOOO confused on this stuff. If I have the option to get the same movie on PAL or NTSC, is there an advantage of getting one with the OPPO?

what movie would you guys say makes the biggest difference with this player?

Check out the first season of Lost on dvd. Quite amazing pq, you'll think it's hd. One of the best I've come across to show off the oppo.

Toonces,

Your DL burn tips have been added to the first post's "TIPS" section.

Thanks again,

Paul

Thank you Paul! It's nice to be able to give something back to this thread.

-Toonces... :D

You're welcome, fellow Texan!

Paul

silly question. Would a native pal DVD show better on the oppo than a native NTSC? the NTSC would upconvert to 720p, but the pal would stay at 540p, right? but isn't the NTSC really 480p upconverted to 720p - making native PAL superior?

I get SOOO confused on this stuff. If I have the option to get the same movie on PAL or NTSC, is there an advantage of getting one with the OPPO? Confused you are indeed! There are advantages and disadvantages to both formats, and both can be upconverted to 720p or any other resolution, but probably the biggest concern for PQ is the DVD transfer - the quality of the MPEG encoding on the DVD. It can be quite different for each format. But here is a very good article that may help... read it all thoroughly: http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Articles/PALvsNTSC/PALvsNTSC.asp

Gary

Just starting the last couple of weeks, just about every other commercial DVD I try to play on the oppo returns the error message, No disc, when I try to play it. (close the tray and loading appears, then no disc message). The last 3 this has happened on were, Oceans 11, Fantastic 4 and Starsky and Hutch. I try opening and closing tray, and power cycling unit, what has actually seemed to work, was I put in another, different DVD, after it loads, I open tray, and put in the problem disc. It then loads fine to the DVD-Video screen.

I checked the DVD's they appear to be fine.

Any idea on what might be happening here?

Rick

Confused you are indeed! There are advantages and disadvantages to both formats, and both can be upconverted to 720p or any other resolution, but probably the biggest concern for PQ is the DVD transfer - the quality of the MPEG encoding on the DVD. It can be quite different for each format. But here is a very good article that may help... read it all thoroughly: http://www.michaeldvd.com.au/Articles/PALvsNTSC/PALvsNTSC.asp

Gary


It's a thorough article, but I think it gives the laurels to PAL way too quickly and trusts too much to 'the math' (as you say over there). I live in PAL land and would love PAL to be up to 20% better than NTSC--or even a little bit better! But as I've posted before (and as the writer of the article makes clear--though not in a way to effect his/her conclusions) this difference is only an 'all other things being equal' difference--they rarely are, even with blockbusters. If you look at a quality comparison site, say DVDBeaver.com, in 7 or 8 out of 10 cases the NTSC is as good or better than the PAL release (again, to their credit the article's writer does suggest that such comparisons are important).

Basically, I agree with you, Gary, the most important thing is the quality of the mpeg compression encoding--bitrates, gigabytes of info, and even resolution, take a big second place to that. It appears that, for some reason unknown to me (though I suspect it is the power of the US economy), NTSC gets this right more often than PAL does.

Dave

It's really difficult to read all 151 pages of this thread, so probably it's worth to start a new one. Is OPPO really overrated? I just bought it and found many problems. I can live with some of them but problems related to DixX playback are really serious. I returned Toshiba player due DivX problems, but OPPO even worse here. I have files played flawlessly on Toshiba but they played with problems on OPPO. I also own RCA DivX player and it seems OPPO share the same decoding problems. So probably they share firmware part related to decoding. I sent e-mail to OPPO tech support, but didn't get an answer yet.

It's really difficult to read all 151 pages of this thread, so probably it's worth to start a new one. Is OPPO really overrated? I just bought it and found many problems. I can live with some of them but problems related to DixX playback are really serious. I returned Toshiba player due DivX problems, but OPPO even worse here. I have files played flawlessly on Toshiba but they played with problems on OPPO. I also own RCA DivX player and it seems OPPO share the same decoding problems. So probably they share firmware part related to decoding. I sent e-mail to OPPO tech support, but didn't get an answer yet.We (and OPPO) can only help you if you are specific about the problems you are experiencing. The OPPO is highly rated for its superb DVD playback. DivX is supported, but may not be perfect yet. OPPO Digital is doing a great job of addressing firmware defects, so hang in there. Let us help if we can. This is the right place. Starting a new thread isn't going to get the attention you need.

Gary

It's a thorough article, but I think it gives the laurels to PAL way too quickly and trusts too much to 'the math' (as you say over there). I live in PAL land and would love PAL to be up to 20% better than NTSC--or even a little bit better! But as I've posted before (and as the writer of the article makes clear--though not in a way to effect his/her conclusions) this difference is only an 'all other things being equal' difference--they rarely are, even with blockbusters. If you look at a quality comparison site, say DVDBeaver.com, in 7 or 8 out of 10 cases the NTSC is as good or better than the PAL release (again, to their credit the article's writer does suggest that such comparisons are important).

Basically, I agree with you, Gary, the most important thing is the quality of the mpeg compression encoding--bitrates, gigabytes of info, and even resolution, take a big second place to that. It appears that, for some reason unknown to me (though I suspect it is the power of the US economy), NTSC gets this right more often than PAL does. Dave is right, and coming from PAL-land, he should know!

The article is pretty well balanced, and the conclusions fairly accurate, except for the first one, which should be qualified with the bold text that I have added: PAL is a higher resolution format for DVD than NTSC. All else being equal, a PAL DVD of a movie should look significantly better than the equivalent NTSC DVD. However, extra resolution takes up extra disc space, so a PAL DVD has to be compressed more (which can impact the image). Additionally, the quality of the MPEG compression (which often differs considerably between the PAL and NTSC releases) has a greater bearing on the image quality than the extra resolution does.
If a PAL version of a movie DVD is not 16x9 enhanced and the NTSC version is 16x9 enhanced, then the NTSC version will be the preferred version, all else being equal.
For video-based material, it is generally better for the DVD to remain in the same format as the source material.
Do your homework before purchasing a DVD! Check as many resources as you can in order to determine which version of a particular DVD is the most appropriate one to purchase. Gary

I've been holding off on making any comments on the 0220 firmware since its release. I installed it as soon as it was available and was impressed immediately. But I read quite a few negative comments on this forum regarding a jittery picture so thought I better give the Oppo a thorough workout before making any comments of my own. To sum it up, I'm just as happy today as I was a month ago when I intalled the new firmware. Audio and video are always perfectly synchronized for me. I have two problem DVD's that had always given me the lip-synch problem. The worst one was Genesis - Live at Wembley. The audio/video synch problem is completely fixed for me now. The picture that the Oppo produces is superb with no hint of jitter whatsoever. I have a 3rd generation Sony Grand Wega 50" display. I upconvert with the Oppo to 720p. Sound is always sent via optical cable to a Denon home theater receiver. I strictly watch Region 1 commercial DVD's with the Oppo. Thanks Oppo! I'm very happy with this player and the 0220 firmware version.

Looking at the Oppo to pair with my new NEC 50XR5 :D Looked but I don't see anybody yet with that combo so maybe I will be the ginuea pig. Currently I have a Denon 1720.
...
Now trying NOT to focus too much on some of the issues, cause I believe every player will have issues. The MBE is what it is (I am also looking at the Denon 1920) so I will just have to see how it pairs with my NEC panel. ... that would be the ginuea pig part... (might need a litle help here)

But what is the frequency/severity of current Defects 1-4. Are they rare or is the lip sync issue something that most of you or only few of you experience etc, do experience the pixel border and the 4:3 Pillar Boxing, if so how much do they bother you?
...

Well since I didn't get ANY responses I went ahead and ordered (too many good things.. and too impatient). I am sure I will have a few real questions, plus I will report to the best of my ability of the pairing between the OPPO and NEC 50XR5 (a mighty fine machine). I have already started reading the manual and more of the thread. I will gleen what I can gleen.

But first question....
Can someone point me too a couple known titles & chapters for me to do a little MB testing/observation/comparison? I am going to compare my non-scaling Denon 1720 with the Oppo and see what I get (overall not just MB).

I've read on the forums it does a good job with the incredibles, monster inc i think it was and season 1 of lost.

On the NTSC/PAL debate, my only contribution is the mini-series Farscape: The Peacekeeper Wars. The US release (NTSC) is undeniably inferior to the R2 (PAL) transfer. The series was produced in Austraila and (I guess) PAL native.

How do you know if the source is PAL native?

On the NTSC/PAL debate, my only contribution is the mini-series Farscape: The Peacekeeper Wars. The US release (NTSC) is undeniably inferior to the R2 (PAL) transfer. The series was produced in Austraila and (I guess) PAL native.

How do you know if the source is PAL native?

I believe movies/film in general are filmed in 24fps. NTSC is 30fps and PAL is 25fps. I'd expect most tv/video content from PAL countries to be "PAL native." Movies/film put onto NTSC need 3:2 pull down to be done to the video while movies/film in PAL are slightly sped up to 25ftps and need 2:2 pulldown.

any opinions if the dv971h will be a good match with the new panny plasma th42px60u? will run the dvi to hdmi and optical to a panny sa-xr55.

currently upgrading from a two year old sammy hd931 and dlp combo.

thanks!

We (and OPPO) can only help you if you are specific about the problems you are experiencing. The OPPO is highly rated for its superb DVD playback. DivX is supported, but may not be perfect yet. OPPO Digital is doing a great job of addressing firmware defects, so hang in there. Let us help if we can. This is the right place. Starting a new thread isn't going to get the attention you need.

Gary

What Divx problems does it have? I thought the divx on the oppo was suppose to be really good?

OK, Amazon UK has Rome on DVD out this summer. Rome was filmed in HD, in Europe. Warner Home Video is putting it out in R2. I don't have the R1 information. Would anyone like to guess at NTSC or Pal being preferred in this instance?

The challenge here escapes me. Why not just make a copy of the disk(s) and mail 'em to Oppo with a note explaining the issues?

You can't copy a DVD-A. They are encrypted.

Somebody needs to send them the original.

The challenge here escapes me. Why not just make a copy of the disk(s) and mail 'em to Oppo with a note explaining the issues?

I work right around the corner from the Oppo office. If someone wants to send me their disk, or a copy, I'd be happy to hand-carry it to Oppo. I will not be the middleman passing messages back and forth, or trying to explain the issues to Oppo, but I can at least get it to them personally if it can't be mailed.

And how exactly is copying a disc and sending it to Oppo legal?

Mark

I been testing FW 220 on my Hitachi 65swx20b. I really haven't had the issues many here are having. i did initially notice a little hesitation or stutter on the opening pan of EP3. Other than that, no jitter on 1080i or lip synch problems on any other movies i have tried.

OK, Amazon UK has Rome on DVD out this summer. Rome was filmed in HD, in Europe. Warner Home Video is putting it out in R2. I don't have the R1 information. Would anyone like to guess at NTSC or Pal being preferred in this instance?

Rome was shot on film and then transferred to HD video. It is neither PAL nor NTSC native. The same rules apply as apply to any feature film (PAL has higher resolution but is sped up 4%, NTSC retains the proper playback speed).

I'm not sure about Farscape, but I believe it was shot on HD video, which again is neither PAL nor NTSC native.

And how exactly is copying a disc and sending it to Oppo legal?

Mark
Did you even read the post to which I was replying?

The guy was complaining about a certain disc (audio format I'm not accustomed to) and checking back with the forum to see if anyone was willing to give their copy to Oppo for evaluation.

I recommended that he make a copy and send it to Oppo himself. I guess my ignnorance of newer audio formats showed through. So he let me know this was not possible.

Legality? I am opposed to copywright infringement of any kind. However, it doesn't seem to me that providing a disc to a DVD Manufacturer for troubleshooting violates the spirit of the law. Apparently it's a non-issue since they cannot be copied and I guess no one wants to let go of their original disc.

Why are you asking me this anyway? This is between me and the other poster, and, frankly, it's none of your business. :rolleyes:

Why are you asking me this anyway? This is between me and the other poster, and, frankly, it's none of your business. :rolleyes:

Public forum... I wouldn't get upset about it :D

Mark

What Divx problems does it have? I thought the divx on the oppo was suppose to be really good?You'll have to ask MOCKBA, the guy who complained about the DivX playback. I asked him to be more specific and he has not yet responded.

Gary

The DivX problem is likely a decoding error. If the file itself is not a pure DivX encoded (ie it uses shaders or other third party instructions) the OPDV971H will choke on it. The OPDV971H is now fully DivX certified, which means it passed all the required decoding tests of DivX Corp.

Regarding legality: Somehow I doubt a company that openly talks about playback of "self recorded" media really cares if you send them the legidimate, or "backed up" versions of your material for testing purposes.

Any one got some news from our friends at BBK about a new firmware? I read a couple of pages before that they were working on it and was supose to come out shortly... but still no update ? :(

Well since I didn't get ANY responses I went ahead and ordered (too many good things.. and too impatient). I am sure I will have a few real questions, plus I will report to the best of my ability of the pairing between the OPPO and NEC 50XR5 (a mighty fine machine). I have already started reading the manual and more of the thread. I will gleen what I can gleen.

But first question....
Can someone point me too a couple known titles & chapters for me to do a little MB testing/observation/comparison? I am going to compare my non-scaling Denon 1720 with the Oppo and see what I get (overall not just MB). Hello bvader, sorry nobody could help you with your NEC question. You'll have to be the first to report your findings with this combo. We'll look forward to it.

See this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7270763&&#post7270763) to answer all your macroblocking questions. There is a link to some examples (known titles & chapters) at the bottom.

Gary

Any one got some news from our friends at BBK about a new firmware? I read a couple of pages before that they were working on it and was supose to come out shortly... but still no update ? :(

BBK has some new firmware, but they have not yet released it. Which is rather surprising, since usually BBK releases the firmware as soon as it passes QA (OPPO spends a couple of days if not a week making sure there is no problem with the firmware they receive, even if it gets a passing grade from the QA department).

It shipped with the 0220 and I upgraded to the 0302 when it came out.. That's when I first noticed the jitter, so I reverted back to the 0220 and it is still occurring. I haven't tried the 0228 yet, and am not sure if that would help out either.

I've noticed that it seems to happen primarily on images and scenes that are predominately white. My wife was just watching an episode of Bullshit, and the scenes where they're on set (a complete white set) were jumping around horribly.

Is this a problem with the player (a bad player?), a probably with the set (never used the HDMI for HD programming), or a little of both? I'm completely happy with the player with anamorphic stuff when I go to the higher aspect ratios, and am thinking about getting a decently built cheapy player to hook up on one of the component ins for a dedicated 4:3 machine. Of course, if I can fix the oppo to not jitter around, that would be the better option.

I just watched the first disc of P&T Bullshit last night, and other than having the problem of crashing at the FBI warning (which I guess is a known issue) there were no problems. I'm running on 0302, and have a Sony 55XS955 TV. I've been running at 720p, not because of jitter problems at 1080i, but because the picture just appears to have more depth at 720p. (the very un-scientific menthod of watching Appleseed at both resolutions)

I've been really happy with the Oppo so far. The picture quality is just far beyond what I expected. I've had no synch problems (0ms delay), and other than the opening of P&T its played everything I've thrown at it.

I only have one minor complaint about the player, and that is the way it displays subtitles. I don't know exactly how subtitles are upscaled, but they appear blocky and poorly defined. Everything I've watched with subtitles so far has been in SQZ mode, so that might have something to do with it. Has anyone else noticed this or know if this is on the "to-do" list?

Hello bvader, sorry nobody could help you with your NEC question. You'll have to be the first to report your findings with this combo. We'll look forward to it.

See this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6811617&&#post6811617) to answer all your macroblocking questions. There is a link to some examples (known titles & chapters) at the bottom.

Gary

Thanks... That will get me started... and I will report what I find... best I can

Thanks... That will get me started... and I will report what I find... best I canSorry, I accidentally linked you to an older post. I've fixed that link above.

BBK has some new firmware, but they have not yet released it. Which is rather surprising, since usually BBK releases the firmware as soon as it passes QA (OPPO spends a couple of days if not a week making sure there is no problem with the firmware they receive, even if it gets a passing grade from the QA department).Ok thx for the info, hope they put it online soon!

Just starting the last couple of weeks, just about every other commercial DVD I try to play on the oppo returns the error message, No disc, when I try to play it. (close the tray and loading appears, then no disc message). The last 3 this has happened on were, Oceans 11, Fantastic 4 and Starsky and Hutch. I try opening and closing tray, and power cycling unit, what has actually seemed to work, was I put in another, different DVD, after it loads, I open tray, and put in the problem disc. It then loads fine to the DVD-Video screen.

I checked the DVD's they appear to be fine.

Any idea on what might be happening here?

Rick


I sent email to oppo at same time I posted this (around 11:30 PM my time). Oppo actually responded before I called it a nite. For those who start having simialr problem:

They had me unplug the unit for 15 min, clean the tray and DVDs, and blow some compressed air into the unit. They said if problem kept happening , it was mechanical and I'd need to send it in.

I unplugged it last nite, this morning I plugged it back in, and did as directed. When I put in a disc, it started to play then all of a sudden, went really wacko, had dark screen with noise all over. I ejected dvd, after it closed, I could barely make out my screen at all!

Needless to say I was kinda bummed. I unplugged again, shut it down for few minutes and fired it back up, seems ok now, but won't know about the initial problem till i play a few DVD's.

Thanks,
Rick

Did you even read the post to which I was replying? ....

Why are you asking me this anyway? This is between me and the other poster, and, frankly, it's none of your business. :rolleyes:

heh, exactly...:) Nothing like jumping on your post, and ignoring the one you were referring to...

Your offer, to reitterate, is most appreciated. I'm kinda saddened that noone else on this forum is chirping up, back in the day there was a number of us with this problem. It's a pretty major problem (total lack of playback) and a relatively simple fix (modified firmware as per existing instructions), but they aren't proceeding 'till they get a disc from one of us. I might send them an email ruquesting they check out the single disc versions... hell, paying to get one for them from amazon would be cheaper than me couriering a single disc from Toronto...

Another example of great oppo customer service...

I've had to return my oppo to fix DVI dropout issue and the unit was delivered to oppo on the 22nd of March around 10:30am. Then on the evening of 22nd, I got a package shipping notice via email and was scheduled for 24th of March delivery. Well, I just hooked up my Oppo dvd player and all is well, so far. I just can't believe how quickly oppo fixed my unit and shipped it back to me. They've also included new remote, all the cables also included in the brand new unit. No, it's not a new unit, but they did replace the MTK chipset. All in all, it's been great owning oppo, and with such class of service, I'm not sure if I'll ever want to buy products from any other vendors.... Oppo...I need a BD/HD DVD player..... Hybrid/Universal player would be even better....Heck...with Oppo logo on it, I'll pay $1K for such unit just to stay with oppo customer service.

Anyway, just wanted to remind everyone how oppo service greatly excels over other companies out there and you don't have to pay arm and a leg for such a great product and service.

Another example of great oppo customer service... Seriously impressive!

According to another forum, Oppo has just launched another beta firmware 0313B. :)

i have a question, there are over 149 pages to thumb through but maybe one of you can give a quick answer.

currently the resolution is 480, how do i set it to 1080?

thanks. this thing is amazing.

~shawn

currently the resolution is 480, how do i set it to 1080? Hit the "Stop" button, then hit the "DVI" button repeatedly, watching the screen each time, until you see the "1080i" message.

i have a question, there are over 149 pages to thumb through but maybe one of you can give a quick answer.

currently the resolution is 480, how do i set it to 1080?

thanks. this thing is amazing.

~shawn

Can't change resolution during play back. Disc has be to completely stopped. There're more features offered from the player. See the manual for more details.

Cheers,
TP

Is there any way to see the remaining time on a DVD? It drives me crazy that this basic function seems to have disappeared from 90% of modern DVD players.

Is there any way to see the remaining time on a DVD? It drives me crazy that this basic function seems to have disappeared from 90% of modern DVD players.
Hit the OSD button. It cycles through title elapsed, title remaining, chapter elapsed, and chapter remaining.

According to another forum, Oppo has just launched another beta firmware 0313B. :)

Which Forum was that please :) ???

Which Forum was that please :) ???
The UK based AV forum, here: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321453

Dave

Iam looking into buying a dvd player which gives a good 480p picture. Since I have a panny ED TV plasma screen I don't need upconversion (alltrough my HD cable box gives better pic with 720p then with 480p but that must be caused by the fact that my TV probably better downgrades the picture to 480p then my cable box).
I have been looking at the oppo 971H for some time and I know the 970H is also comming. My main issue with the 971H is the macroblocking (with some other problems as audio sync and subtitles), does anyone know if the Faroudja chipset also gives MB when only using 480p? Or if the 971H gives much MB at all with a panasonic 42PD50U? I hate to spend $200 on a player which will irretate me (and even worse my girlfriend) when watching dvds?
I am also thinking about the 970H or even the BBK 988 but as I understand they only use a MTK chipset which will solve the marcoblocking but what will the picture loss be at 480p? Will the MTK do a worse job on deinterlacing in 480 then the Faroudja?
I really want to get a better player since the polaroid dvd player picuture doesn't even come close to the PQ I get when using my HD cable box (I assume that since my TV is 480P the HD box and dvd player should be capable of giving similar PQ).

I was just about to throw out the box that my Oppo came in from Amazon and noticed a cable on the bottom. It was the DVI - HMDI cable. It was on the bottom all along.

Guys, check you box completely, if you ordered from amazon, it should be in there.

Also, if i want to hook it up to my reciever, which connection gives the best sound, the TOS link?

thanks.

Also, if i want to hook it up to my reciever, which connection gives the best sound, the TOS link?

thanks.

Depends on the receiver. If you have a really old receiver, then 6 ch analog may be a better solution since oppo D/A converter may do a better job.

I was just about to throw out the box that my Oppo came in from Amazon and noticed a cable on the bottom. It was the DVI - HMDI cable. It was on the bottom all along.

Guys, check you box completely, if you ordered from amazon, it should be in there.

Also, if i want to hook it up to my reciever, which connection gives the best sound, the TOS link?

thanks.All latest OPPO shippings regardless source have to have DVI-HDMI cable. It's stated on OPPO web site as well.
I found many problems with OPPO so it seems very overrated player. LG looks like better value for me, so I'll probably return OPPO and get LG. I do not tell about usability of this player which is really bad. I do not tell that this player has problems with DivX decoding. It simple doesn't provide such desired picture quality. In my case I got only viewable picture from DVI connection. Component and S give too dark picture. I compare it with Toshiba where I get equal looking picture (besiades details) from any out. I also noticed that picture provided by the player very noisy.

We (and OPPO) can only help you if you are specific about the problems you are experiencing. The OPPO is highly rated for its superb DVD playback. DivX is supported, but may not be perfect yet. OPPO Digital is doing a great job of addressing firmware defects, so hang in there. Let us help if we can. This is the right place. Starting a new thread isn't going to get the attention you need.

GaryI contacted OPPO, they acknowledged the problems. It seems they have test files. What I knew from them that decoding code is in rewriting stage and it will took few months to finalize the process. I was surprised that Toshiba had so strong development team for DixX decoding (no such problem happened), however Toshiba had another problem they didn't acknowledge aspect rate of DivX. Here OPPO acts correctly. OPPO decoding reminds me used in RCA player.
A good news that OPPO fixed problem with display of long file names in the latest firmware, it makes me think that decoding problems will be fixed too.

Hi,
I received my oppo few days back, and it is working great on the few dvd collection i have.
Few questions though, how do i see the firmware version (it has to be F0302 version). BDW do you guys know any new updates oppo gonna release and what fixes they include.

Default on DVD player brightness, contrast, saturation has all set to 0 ( anyways my display[samsung ln--r268w] settings are different and set them accordingly. Are there any better settings for oppo.
I dont really understand how the CCS option works can someone explain when this is necessary.

Also important i couldn't find a way to resume a dvd once switched off. It gives a message to press select key to jump , but only goes to root menu. How could i make this work.
Thanks for any Help
Hemake

Hit the OSD button. It cycles through title elapsed, title remaining, chapter elapsed, and chapter remaining.

Thank you, sir. After suffering through so many players without this function, I just assumed that it was missing from the Oppo as well.

I just got a refurbished unit yesterday and so far it's living up to all the hype. This is the only PAL-capable player I've found that does a great job with all PAL discs, even ones that were mastered from NTSC sources (the UK Russ Meyer DVD's, the French Magnificent Ambersons DVD, etc.). Very nice!

Does anyone here know of any issues with the Oppo displaying on a Panny TH50PHD8UK via the DVI-HDMI cable? I ask this because I previously bought a Toshiba SD-V592 DVD/VCR because it had HDMI out to use with my Panny TH50PHD7 and the display was all green and generally messed up. I ended up using the component input on the Panny for the DVD and using the HDMI input on the Panny for my set top box. I'd like to avoid any problems this time around.

Also, I have to cofess that I do not understand what the "macroblocking" problem with the Oppo is all about. It sounds bad but even after reading ALOT of this thread, I still don't what this means.

I'm also considering an LG LDA-530 instead of the Oppo because it is 1) cheaper and 2) seems to be able to play any downloaded file you throw at it (AVI, MPEG, DIVX, XVID). From what I read, the Oppo is only semi-talented at this. Any thoughts on the subject would be greatly appreciated.

Few questions though, how do i see the firmware version (it has to be F0302 version).

SETUP-9-2-1-0.

Default on DVD player brightness, contrast, saturation has all set to 0 ( anyways my display[samsung ln--r268w] settings are different and set them accordingly. Are there any better settings for oppo.

Leave all the settings in the player menu at 0 and calibrate at the TV with Avia or Digital Video Essentials.

I dont really understand how the CCS option works can someone explain when this is necessary.

CCS (Cross Color Suppression) is a Faroudja feature designed for composite video sources. It is not helpful for most DVDs, which are mastered in component video, so it's better to just leave it off. CCS may help if watching a poorly-mastered DVD that was transferred from a composite video source (some anime is like this, as well as some cheapie public domain material) and you see lots of moire in fine object details. But in general just leave it off.

I found many problems with OPPO so it seems very overrated player...
It simple doesn't provide such desired picture quality. In my case I got only viewable picture from DVI connection. Component and S give too dark picture. I compare it with Toshiba where I get equal looking picture (besiades details) from any out. I also noticed that picture provided by the player very noisy. In this case your problem appears to be quite simple: Calibration!

To make a fair comparison/evaluation, you need to properly calibrate your display to each source (player).

Gary

Also, I have to cofess that I do not understand what the "macroblocking" problem with the Oppo is all about. It sounds bad but even after reading ALOT of this thread, I still don't what this means. See this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7270763#post7270763). And refer to the link: Description and examples.

Gary

Hi,

Does anyone know if the oppo also can give macroblocking on the 480p output?
And how much will the mediatek chipset (which is gonne be in the 970H) be worse on the 480p output then the faroudja in the 971H?

Thanks.

GSB, thanks!!

Any experience with the Oppo on a Panny via DVI?

Hi,

Does anyone know if the oppo also can give macroblocking on the 480p output?
And how much will the mediatek chipset (which is gonne be in the 970H) be worse on the 480p output then the faroudja in the 971H?

Thanks.
First question: yes. Second question, who knows, but the 970h is not meant to compete pq wise with the 971h, so I guess the drop off will be noticeable.

Dave

First question: yes. Second question, who knows, but the 970h is not meant to compete pq wise with the 971h, so I guess the drop off will be noticeable.

The 970H will have a dropoff in deinterlacing quality. However, the intent of the player is to provide 480i output via HDMI for people who want to connect to a video processor.

I understand, however I rather have lower pic quality then the MB bug if its present a lot. Its like having a multi million dollar house with a leaking roof, nice when its not raining but when it rains its useless. It seems to be at the moment (if you don't want to spend >$1000) either you have a very good deinterlacing chip with marco blocking or a little less picture quality without MB.
Altrough the Mediatek isn't as good as the Faroudja with upscaling how does it do the job with normal deinterlacing at 480p? Thats all I am concerned about. Heck maybe I order both the 970H and 971H and send back the one I don't like. I understand the 970H is rumored to come out end of april?

I understand, however I rather have lower pic quality then the MB bug if its present a lot. Its like having a multi million dollar house with a leaking roof, nice when its not raining but when it rains its useless. It seems to be at the moment (if you don't want to spend >$1000) either you have a very good deinterlacing chip with marco blocking or a little less picture quality without MB.
Altrough the Mediatek isn't as good as the Faroudja with upscaling how does it do the job with normal deinterlacing at 480p? Thats all I am concerned about. Heck maybe I order both the 970H and 971H and send back the one I don't like. I understand the 970H is rumored to come out end of april?

SETUP-9-2-1-0.



Leave all the settings in the player menu at 0 and calibrate at the TV with Avia or Digital Video Essentials.



Thank you so much Josh ,
Have you known about any info about resume feature i talked about. How can i resume a dvd once the player is switched off. Like such remembering last dvd's position.
How to make it regiong free (coz as you said when i looked up firmware version it says region 1 not region 0), so i believe it can only play region 0 dvds OR when i put another region dvd does it change to that regiong automatically.
Thanks for the info.

The 970H will have a dropoff in deinterlacing quality. However, the intent of the player is to provide 480i output via HDMI for people who want to connect to a video processor.

I'm not sure Oppo is strictly targeting the 970H at the "SDI" crowd, or those others of us who are looking to send 480i digital to our external or built-in display scalers. That would be a pretty small market, wouldn't it?

I was under the impression that the 970H would not be as superior an upconverter as the Faroudja-based 971H. But if the intent is to view 480p, the Mediatek de-interlaciing should be able to hold it's own against the Faroudja's, shouldn't it?

/steve

I'm not sure Oppo is strictly targeting the 970H at the "SDI" crowd, or those others of us who are looking to send 480i digital to our external or built-in display scalers. That would be a pretty small market, wouldn't it?


It's also to offer a quality player at a much lower price point than the 971. Many people (not any on this forum though ;) )wouldn't be able to tell the difference in the deinterlacing quality.

Thank you so much Josh ,
Have you known about any info about resume feature i talked about. How can i resume a dvd once the player is switched off. Like such remembering last dvd's position.
How to make it regiong free (coz as you said when i looked up firmware version it says region 1 not region 0), so i believe it can only play region 0 dvds OR when i put another region dvd does it change to that regiong automatically.
Thanks for the info.

Pressing OSD will also display the firmware version. When you're in the 9210 menu, simply push the number buttons to change the region. For most disks, using "0" will play any region. A lot of this information is in the "Brain Dump", the first post of this thread.

Regarding the memory playback, from the new manual:

1. If you must interrupt the playback and would like to resume from the
interrupted position at a later time, you may press the EJECT button
on the remote control to eject the disc. While ejecting the disc the
DVD player will save the current playing position.
2. The position is memorized even after turning off the unit or changing
the disc.
3. When the next time the disc with a memorized playing position is
played back, the DVD player will remind you of the saved playing
position. You may press the SELECT button to resume playback from
the saved position, or press any other button to play from the
beginning of the disc.

I've had DVD players all the way back to 1997, but I only very recently got my first 16:9 TV (Mitsubishi WS-73517 -- 73" CRT-based RP). And of course the Oppo, which is why I'm asking the question here.

I watched my first widescreen non-anamorphic film last night, which of course displays with borders on all 4 sides by default. All I could find was either a TV setting that stretched it (making people look fat), or a Oppo zoom that kept things in the correct ratios but which was way worse looking. I ended up staying with the latter, although I was tempted to just leave it with the borders.

The video is connected DVI-HDMI at 1080i. The TV will also accept 480p, which I did not try last night. 720p is unfortunately not accepted on the HDMI input.

Any suggestions besides refusing to ever buy any more non-anamorphic DVDs? Thanks in advance...

The video is connected DVI-HDMI at 1080i. The TV will also accept 480p, which I did not try last night. 720p is unfortunately not accepted on the HDMI input.
Any suggestions besides refusing to ever buy any more non-anamorphic DVDs? Thanks in advance...
The image quality using Oppo's zoom sucks because the Oppo doesn't use the Faroudja chipset to do the scaling. Don't use it.
For non-anamorphic DVDs, switch your Oppo to 480p and then your TV should give you an option to display the content as 4:3, 16:9, zoom, etc.
When you feed your TV 720p or 1080i modes, the image is always 16:9 on arrival so you have less choice in how you can format it.

Altrough the Mediatek isn't as good as the Faroudja with upscaling how does it do the job with normal deinterlacing at 480p? I was under the impression that the 970H would not be as superior an upconverter as the Faroudja-based 971H. But if the intent is to view 480p, the Mediatek de-interlaciing should be able to hold it's own against the Faroudja's, shouldn't it? Both of you have made a simple mistake here. The Mediatek processor in the 970H does fine with upscaling. It's the de-interlacing that will not be up to the same standard as the Faroudja processor in the 971H.

So 480p will still look better on the 971H... assuming of course, that your display doesn't have a problem with macroblock-enhance.

Gary

GSB, thanks!!

Any experience with the Oppo on a Panny via DVI?Sorry, no. But a few others have Panny displays. They may be able to help.

Gary

Both of you have made a simple mistake here. The Mediatek processor in the 970H does fine with upscaling. It's the de-interlacing that will not be up to the same standard as the Faroudja processor in the 971H.

So 480p will still look better on the 971H... assuming of course, that your display doesn't have a problem with macroblock-enhance.

Gary
Since the 970H upscale 480i to 1080i signal through HDMI, so which one will do the de-interacing function - TV or the DVD player? and why?

Since the 970H upscale 480i to 1080i signal through HDMI, so which one will do the de-interacing function - TV or the DVD player? and why?A 480i signal cannot be upconverted directly to 1080i. It must first be de-interlaced to 480p, then upscaled to 540p, then finally re-interlaced. This must all be done by the player.

Now, if the display is natively progressive, that 1080i signal has to be de-interlaced again - by the display. That is not good practice... ideally, the display should be fed with its native resolution to avoid double-processing where possible.

Gary

My player is due to arrive today. Oh, my dear Oppo!!! Please don't let me down!!! :)

Both of you have made a simple mistake here. The Mediatek processor in the 970H does fine with upscaling. It's the de-interlacing that will not be up to the same standard as the Faroudja processor in the 971H.

So 480p will still look better on the 971H... assuming of course, that your display doesn't have a problem with macroblock-enhance.


I was under the impression that 480i deinterlacing was a relatively straightforward technique that most players did well, but that Faroudja upconversion was superior because of the various filtering and enhancement techniques it employs. Not so?

/steve

ideally, the display should be fed with its native resolution to avoid double-processing where possible

what would you suggest if this isn't possible?

I was under the impression that 480i deinterlacing was a relatively straightforward technique that most players did well, but that Faroudja upconversion was superior because of the various filtering and enhancement techniques it employs. Not so?

No, not at all.

Deinterlacing film-based content is fairly easy, but when you work with video-based or mixed-source content (such as a TV show shot on film but with video overlays), deinterlacing becomes very difficult.

The Mediatek deinterlacer is only fair. It does OK with straightforward film content, but fails almost every test on the HQV Benchmark DVD for video, mixed cadences, and diagonals.

Question: The LPCM OUT how does one know what to set this at...I have a Yamaha 995 and a 1600. Thanks.

No, not at all.

Deinterlacing film-based content is fairly easy, but when you work with video-based or mixed-source content (such as a TV show shot on film but with video overlays), deinterlacing becomes very difficult.

The Mediatek deinterlacer is only fair. It does OK with straightforward film content, but fails almost every test on the HQV Benchmark DVD for video, mixed cadences, and diagonals.
I too have run the HQV Benchmark DVD on my Oppo player. As you said, it does an exceptional job with film-based sources. And it does struggle with the tests you mentioned. But I have yet to see this shortcoming really harm the picture quality of video based dvds or mixed-source content, like those for TV Series' disks. This came as a pleasant surprise.

[...]But I have yet to see this shortcoming really harm the picture quality of video based dvds or mixed-source content, like those for TV Series' disks.

I agree. Those benchmarks are helpful, but in reality, 99% of my DVD viewing falls into these categories as well and any shortcomings don't really translate into noticeable issues, at least to my eyes.

/steve

The UK based AV forum, here: http://www.avforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=321453

Dave

Anyone confirm or deny this FW? I need both the lipsync fix and ability to play divx/etc, so a revision that does both is somewhat important to me. Currently sticking with 1111B until issues are sorted out a bit.

Anyone confirm or deny this FW? I need both the lipsync fix and ability to play divx/etc, so a revision that does both is somewhat important to me. Currently sticking with 1111B until issues are sorted out a bit.

if you already have an opp, just give that fw a try.

Anyone confirm or deny this FW? I need both the lipsync fix and ability to play divx/etc, so a revision that does both is somewhat important to me. Currently sticking with 1111B until issues are sorted out a bit.

The firmware is real and is in testing. OPPO however does not seed beta firmware unless the firmware is necessary for enjoyment of the OPDV971H. Beta Testers have had the firmware for a while now, and are plenty in numbers.

So I'm just about to order one of these players but am a little concerned about just how severe the potential audio synch issue is... I understand the pending firmware update should eliminate the problem but that the firmware in units shipping now might still have some issues with synch.

Just how bad (or not) is this issue currently?

Thanks,
Lee

I too have run the HQV Benchmark DVD on my Oppo player. As you said, it does an exceptional job with film-based sources. And it does struggle with the tests you mentioned. But I have yet to see this shortcoming really harm the picture quality of video based dvds or mixed-source content, like those for TV Series' disks. This came as a pleasant surprise.

The Oppo 971H only uses the Mediatek chip for MPEG decoding. All deinterlacing is performed by the Faroudja chip, which is one of the better deinterlacers.

We were talking about Mediatek deinterlacing in regard to the upcoming 970H model.

So I'm just about to order one of these players but am a little concerned about just how severe the potential audio synch issue is... I understand the pending firmware update should eliminate the problem but that the firmware in units shipping now might still have some issues with synch.

Just how bad (or not) is this issue currently?

Thanks,
Lee

It varies for folks, some have expereinced no sync problems, others have it often (but regular, so easier to fix), others like me experience it only occasionally (i.e. not on very many DVD's). For me it's intermittant, doesnt happen on very many commercial DVD's. I also occasionally experience audio sync with OTA HD broadcasts, perahps at around the same frequency.

Rick

And it's something pre-Faroudja, because I saw lack of sync viewing component this weekend with The Eagles Farewell I disc. Also, it was constant from the beginning and non-variable like most situations I've encountered. It wasn't evident at all on another player.

The Oppo 971H only uses the Mediatek chip for MPEG decoding. All deinterlacing is performed by the Faroudja chip, which is one of the better deinterlacers.

We were talking about Mediatek deinterlacing in regard to the upcoming 970H model.
My bad. ;)

Thanks for the info.

A while back (maybe 3 weeks or so) I had reported red sparkles while upconverting. I had assumed the problem was the Oppo. As it turns out, it was not the Oppo, but my cables. At the same time, Oppo was VERY helpful and very fast to accept the unit to be returned (which I didn't have to do). Just wanted to put in a good word for the product (with the new cable it looks GREAT) and the company. Thanks, Oppo.

I was under the impression that 480i deinterlacing was a relatively straightforward technique that most players did well, but that Faroudja upconversion was superior because of the various filtering and enhancement techniques it employs. Not so?
Deinterlacing film-based content is fairly easy, but when you work with video-based or mixed-source content (such as a TV show shot on film but with video overlays), deinterlacing becomes very difficult. To add to Josh's comments, the de-interlacing gets even more difficult when film-based, video-based, or mixed-source content is incorrectly flagged on the DVD. This problem is extremely common, and flag-reading players barf on such material. The OPPO's Faroudja processor handles all these situations very well.

See the excellent SECRETS Progressive Scan DVD (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_7_4/dvd-benchmark-part-5-progressive-10-2000.html) article for an in-depth tutorial on the tricky problems encountered with de-interlacing DVD's.

The SECRETS Progressive Scan Shootout (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=all&type=DVD+Player&manufacturer=0&maxprice=0&deInt=0&mpeg=0) is designed to reveal all such problems with the players they test, and the OPPO player is currently rated #1 for these specific de-interlacing (and other) torture-tests.

Gary

what would you suggest if this isn't possible?It depends entirely on the situation. If the display cannot be fed with its native resolution, you have to make the best compromise. If you give us an example, we could help you to find the best solution. But even then, every display has its strengths and weaknesses that cannot always be accounted for. So it often helps to trust your eyes to make the best choice for your particular setup.

Gary

Question: The LPCM OUT how does one know what to set this at...I have a Yamaha 995 and a 1600. Thanks.Set it to the highest bit-rate that your receiver supports. If you don't know, set it to 192k. If you hear nothing, try 96k, or 48k, until you hear the soundtrack.

Note that if you have the "SPDIF Output" set to "RAW", this setting is irrelevant.

Gary

So I'm just about to order one of these players but am a little concerned about just how severe the potential audio synch issue is... I understand the pending firmware update should eliminate the problem but that the firmware in units shipping now might still have some issues with synch.

Just how bad (or not) is this issue currently?

Thanks,
Lee

It's really not that bad, and only creeps up on occasion for me. Stopping and starting again cures it. When it does rear it's ugly head, it's very noticeable, i.e. can't be ignored.

Even with the 220 firmware I have Sync troubles on my Samsung 5668w/Pioneer Elite 27TX setup. I can eliminate the trouble by switching to PCM instead of RAW on the Oppo, but at PCM you can't send a dolby-digital signal, only stereo. I've always been able to get PCM stereo without sync troubles by going from the mixed-down analog L/R into my TV, and then from the TV to the receiver via the TV's optical out. (why they don't build TV's that will do a digital passthrough is beyond me. The TV's internal dolby digital tuner will send a DD5.1 signal out only if you tune to a DD channel via the Cablecard).

The beta firmware that went to 120ms was able to sync up the RAW (there's no way that my brain can affect reality THAT MUCH...I'm positive that the delay affected the Raw with that firmware). I'm going to revert back to it.

I hate to drop $200 on a Feslton box, but it's looking more and more like my only option, short of replacing my receiver.

SV

For non-anamorphic DVDs, switch your Oppo to 480p and then your TV should give you an option to display the content as 4:3, 16:9, zoom, etc.
When you feed your TV 720p or 1080i modes, the image is always 16:9 on arrival so you have less choice in how you can format it. Good call. Switching to 480p gave me lots more options on the TV. Thanks!

Followup question: If the TV can accept either 480p or 1080i, is one or the other always higher quality? It seems like with 480p the Oppo gets to do the deinterlacing but not the scaling. For 1080i is the Oppo only scaling, or does it deinterlace and then reinterlace? My impression was that 1080i was supposed to be better, but I don't really understand why (or if that's even really correct).

Guys, our Russian friends have a new mod for 0302 firmware. For those who are interested, here is a direct link. You may want to use a downloader because the site is painfully slow and aborts downloads. Took me about 30 minutes to get it using Getright. Haven't tried it yet so use at your own risk!



http://bbk985s.narod.ru/firmwares/oppo0220/oppo.0220.v4.zip

Thx for the link! Waited a long time for a new release, gonna try it tomorow.

http://bbk985s.narod.ru/firmwares/oppo0220/oppo.0220.v4.zip

This one is NOT for the Oppo. This firmware is for BBK985S, the BBK counterpart of the OPD971H. It is, however, based on the Oppo 0220 firmware and, as I gatner, an updated version of ARM.

Also, this is a 'beta' firmware, and it has some problems with OGG support, tags, and, according to the developer, some "visual problems".

Forgive me for the rookie question, I'm new to any type of advanced DVD player settings.
What do I gain/lose by going to region free (0) setting?

I just rec'd Oppo from Amazon and it is on FW ver. 111B. Should I upgrade to latest ver. 0302?
Thx

This site also has OPPO firmware
http://bbk985s.narod.ru/oppo971.html

This site also has OPPO firmware
http://bbk985s.narod.ru/oppo971.html
But this is only for the 1022b firmware.

Dave

Forgive me for the rookie question, I'm new to any type of advanced DVD player settings.
What do I gain/lose by going to region free (0) setting?

I just rec'd Oppo from Amazon and it is on FW ver. 111B. Should I upgrade to latest ver. 0302?
Thx

You gain the ability to play discs from other regions. You lose absolutely nothing.

As to upgrading to 0302, you may as well, but there's no absolute need to unless you have problems (e.g., image shift).

Dave

Guys, our Russian friends have a new mod for 0302 firmware. For those who are interested, here is a direct link. You may want to use a downloader because the site is painfully slow and aborts downloads. Took me about 30 minutes to get it using Getright. Haven't tried it yet so use at your own risk!



http://bbk985s.narod.ru/firmwares/oppo0220/oppo.0220.v4.zip
I did successfuly down load this, but couldn't get the oppo to recognise it as firmware: it found the disc, then just stopped. Tried changing the name and saved it ten different ways. Anyway, looks like it might not be quite right yet.

Dave

Even with the 220 firmware I have Sync troubles on my Samsung 5668w/Pioneer Elite 27TX setup. I can eliminate the trouble by switching to PCM instead of RAW on the Oppo, but at PCM you can't send a dolby-digital signal, only stereo. I've always been able to get PCM stereo without sync troubles by going from the mixed-down analog L/R into my TV, and then from the TV to the receiver via the TV's optical out. (why they don't build TV's that will do a digital passthrough is beyond me. The TV's internal dolby digital tuner will send a DD5.1 signal out only if you tune to a DD channel via the Cablecard).

The beta firmware that went to 120ms was able to sync up the RAW (there's no way that my brain can affect reality THAT MUCH...I'm positive that the delay affected the Raw with that firmware). I'm going to revert back to it.

I hate to drop $200 on a Feslton box, but it's looking more and more like my only option, short of replacing my receiver.

SV
Send your problem to oppo. They might send you the 0313beta fw for people with serious sync issues.

Dave

But this is only for the 1022b firmware.

DaveStrange, they claim full file name browsing. I noticed that only the newest firmware has it (sort of because it's rolling names). Anyway I agree that not reason to get firmware from there.

I contacted the developer of the modified firmware, and we agreed to make a Web site on them. Here it is: www.opdv971h.com

I am after a mod of the 302 with JUST the UPO's removed.

I contacted the developer of the modified firmware, and we agreed to make a Web site on them.

:) Thank you!

I contacted the developer of the modified firmware, and we agreed to make a Web site on them. Here it is: www.opd971h.com

OK, I've downloaded this, I've saved it to my desktop and unzipped it. Now, I tried several ways to get the oppo to read the file but I just can't.

I've converted it to an ISO using Pinnacle software--it seems to double the size of the file! Then I've burned it to disc using Pinnacle, copytodvd and burnatonce, always being careful to have joillet off.

Each time I either get "undisc" or 'Stop" on the oppo dispay. It won't recognise it as firmware.

What am I doing wrong?

Is there an easier way?

Dave

EDIT: Sussed it: I was trying to get the oppo to read a folder not a file and then I unecessarily converted the BIN to an ISO! To do it I just needed to open the folder on my desktop and burn the BIN file! I'm watching Kong tonight so we'll see how it holds up.

EDIT 2: DON'T BOTHER--THIS HAS EXACTLY THE SAME SUBTITLE PROBLEMS AND ANGLE ISSUES AS THE LAST RUSSIAN MOD. THEY NEED TO SORT THIS OUT IF IT'S GOING TO FLY.

You gain the ability to play discs from other regions. You lose absolutely nothing.

As to upgrading to 0302, you may as well, but there's no absolute need to unless you have problems (e.g., image shift).

Dave
About setting the Oppo to Region 0:
As I understand it, it may cause problems with RCE (Region Code Enhanced) discs, which are specifically designed to not work on region-free players. That being said, though, I've never encountered any such problem (though I'm not sure whether any of the discs I've played are actually RCE-protected). At any rate, the solution to that should just be to go back into the Setup-9-2-1-0 menu and set the RC back to 1 temporarily.

Good call. Switching to 480p gave me lots more options on the TV. Thanks!

Followup question: If the TV can accept either 480p or 1080i, is one or the other always higher quality?
It really depends on your display. Usually the higher the resolution the better the picture quality. But the tv is not the only player here. I have a 34" Sony tube tv that runs at 1080i. But the 1080i out from my Oppo is jittery whereas 720p out is rock solid and beautiful.

It seems like with 480p the Oppo gets to do the deinterlacing but not the scaling. For 1080i is the Oppo only scaling, or does it deinterlace and then reinterlace? My impression was that 1080i was supposed to be better, but I don't really understand why (or if that's even really correct).
I have the same question - hopefully someone more knowledgeable will chime in here.

...If the TV can accept either 480p or 1080i, is one or the other always higher quality?
It really depends on your display. Usually the higher the resolution the better the picture quality. But the tv is not the only player here. I have a 34" Sony tube tv that runs at 1080i. But the 1080i out from my Oppo is jittery whereas 720p out is rock solid and beautiful.

It seems like with 480p the Oppo gets to do the deinterlacing but not the scaling. For 1080i is the Oppo only scaling, or does it deinterlace and then reinterlace? My impression was that 1080i was supposed to be better, but I don't really understand why (or if that's even really correct).
I have the same question - hopefully someone more knowledgeable will chime in here.

For 1080i is the Oppo only scaling, or does it deinterlace and then reinterlace? My impression was that 1080i was supposed to be better, but I don't really understand why (or if that's even really correct).

The scaling process is based on whole video frames. The 480i video has to be deinterlaced, scaled, and then reinterlaced for 1080i.

1080i should be "better" in the case where 1080i is the native resolution of your TV, and the Oppo scaling chip is higher quality than whatever scaling chip is built into the set. The point of having a DVD player upscale is to avoid any scaling in the TV.

The scaling process is based on whole video frames. The 480i video has to be deinterlaced, scaled, and then reinterlaced for 1080i.

1080i should be "better" in the case where 1080i is the native resolution of your TV, and the Oppo scaling chip is higher quality than whatever scaling chip is built into the set. The point of having a DVD player upscale is to avoid any scaling in the TV.
Thanks for the insight!

I'm curious. Is deinterlacing required for the scaling? Or is it that the film to video transfer is an integral part of deinterlacing?

OK, I've downloaded this, I've saved it to my desktop and unzipped it. Now, I tried several ways to get the oppo to read the file but I just can't.

I translated the CD burning instructions from the Russian site. There are several specific settings that must be selected in the project before burning it.

Here's how: http://www.opdv971h.com/firmware/burn.png


About the angle and subtitle problems: is there any specific Oppo firmware that fixes this sort of behavior? My understanding is that the Russian developer takes Oppo specific parts of the firmware, and crosses it with a newer version of ARM that support things like Nero Digital, for example.

It seems like with 480p the Oppo gets to do the deinterlacing but not the scaling. Yes.

I'm curious. Is deinterlacing required for the scaling? Yes.

I'm curious. Is deinterlacing required for the scaling?

The scaling process is based on whole video frames, not individual interlaced fields. The video has to be deinterlaced before it can be scaled.

AOleg, thanks for the site.

MOCKBA,

Russian firmware 1022 does support the long filenames.
Oppo has officially started supporting them last month, 0220, if I am not mistaken.
The difference is that in Oppo's firmware filenames are scrolling and support more than 40 characters which is a good thing.
The bad thing is that the scrolling is awfully slow and there is no way to get rid of the tag preview window (the right half of the screen). I just hope that the Russian guys manage to hack it somehow.

BTW, is it possible to decrease the time between 2 mp3 files or can it be implemented in future firmwares? Right now it takes about 5 seconds per track which is a lot.

Trance Dog,

The hacked firmware just removes the preview window, so they have long file names (no scrolling).

any way to set it to randomly play mp3s ?

I think only Shuffle works for MP3 playback. Press the Repeat button.

Trance Dog,

The hacked firmware just removes the preview window, so they have long file names (no scrolling).

Right, that's what I am saying, but there is only 40 character support. Official firmware now supports much more. Can't tell the maximum number but I threw a file with a very long name, more than 60 characters, and it has shown them all.
Wouldn't it be sweet if the preview window goes to hell and the scrolling remains on the entire screen?:)

About the angle and subtitle problems: is there any specific Oppo firmware that fixes this sort of behavior? My understanding is that the Russian developer takes Oppo specific parts of the firmware, and crosses it with a newer version of ARM that support things like Nero Digital, for example.

Subtitles and angle icons haven't ever been a problem on my oppo unless I install the russian firmware--I've had the oppo since August 05 and every firmware since has played ordinary subtitles well.

But the oppo does have a problem with partial subtitle tracks, i.e., those in alien languages that come in on Star Wars and the oriental languages in Kill Bill (for example). The oppo has never picked the right track unless 'none' or 'off' is deliberately selected in the subtitle menu before the film is played.

Also it has been noted before that the oppo will (very, very rarely) randomly display angle icons on certain DVDs--though this isn't something I've seen, again, unless I use a russian mod.

The russian firmware seems to exacerbate these known problems somehow and, in the case of Star Wars I can't get the alien subtitle track to work at all (though Kill Bill is fine). Also the angle icon comes up during the scroll scene at the beginning of SWIV. It must be an effect that the russian mod is having on the oppo firmware. The russians need to iron it out if they are to produce a useable mod--and we are grateful for their efforts.

Dave

Subtitles and angle icons haven't ever been a problem on my oppo unless I install the russian firmware--I've had the oppo since August 05 and every firmware since has played ordinary subtitles well.

But the oppo does have a problem with partial subtitle tracks, i.e., those in alien languages that come in on Star Wars and the oriental languages in Kill Bill (for example). The oppo has never picked the right track unless 'none' or 'off' is deliberately selected in the subtitle menu before the film is played.

Also it has been noted before that the oppo will (very, very rarely) randomly display angle icons on certain DVDs--though this isn't something I've seen, again, unless I use a russian mod.

The russian firmware seems to exacerbate these known problems somehow and, in the case of Star Wars I can't get the alien subtitle track to work at all (though Kill Bill is fine). Also the angle icon comes up during the scroll scene at the beginning of SWIV. It must be an effect that the russian mod is having on the oppo firmware. The russians need to iron it out if they are to produce a useable mod--and we are grateful for their efforts.

Dave




I've seen all the problems you described, from the beginning. I got mine last April. With both the official and Russian mods. The angle icon pops up during Pixar films almost without fail, the SW film above and several Disney movies. Oppo told me to cycle it on/off in the menu, but they didn't know if they could fix it.

I'm using the Oppo with my Dell 24" Widescreen LCD monitor. Looks slightly better than when I had a tweaked out HTPC (Theatertek+ffdshow) setup.

The monitor's native res is 1920x1200. After a brief test run, I realized that I can't tell the difference at all between 720p and 1080i (they're both identically beautiful). If there was no distinguishable difference in PQ between the two resolutions, which would be a better setting to leave it at? Does it not matter at all?

Let your eyes be the guide. With my 720p display, I can notice very little difference also. Maybe some DVDs will look better with one setting than the other. Experimentation is always a good option. You will not 'hurt' anything in this case. I get a better image with my Dish receiver in 1080i than 720p. Logic would dictate otherwise.

arkistan,

The Oppo cannot output your screen's native resolution, so the Dell must rescale to 1920x1200 anything the Oppo sends it. Apparently at 24" the Dell does a fine job, which is good. Most large screens don't rescale as well as the Oppo does.

I have my new Oppo hooked up via DVI->HDMI and my STB (SA8300HD) via HDMI->HDMI to my new NEC 50XR. The picture is excellent by the way. However, when I switch between the Oppo and the STB as sources for the panel, the STB->Panel connection looses it handshake (I see snow, not a no signal indication) however if I go back to the Oppo it displays fine. In order to resolve the issue I must power cycle the panel. If I choose the Oppo as a source again the same thing happens.

I understand it could be the STB or NEC, However I know for a fact the NEC Switches fine between 2 "pure" HDMI sources.

Is it a common problem to have switching issues between HDMI inputs when one is DVI->HDMI and the other is just HDMI->HDMI. I have tried the cable that came with the Oppo and a very nice and longer one I have purchased from monoprice.

Thoughts anyone?

I'm using the Oppo with my Dell 24" Widescreen LCD monitor. Looks slightly better than when I had a tweaked out HTPC (Theatertek+ffdshow) setup.

The monitor's native res is 1920x1200. After a brief test run, I realized that I can't tell the difference at all between 720p and 1080i (they're both identically beautiful). If there was no distinguishable difference in PQ between the two resolutions, which would be a better setting to leave it at? Does it not matter at all?

Theoretically, you should leave it on 1080i, however, in real application, this really depends on the source of video material you're feeding into the display or from oppo. If you test the display with well mastered/transfered DVD's, you should be able to see the difference more easily. However, badly mastered/transfered dvd titles will look bad in any upconverted resolution. One of the test DVD I use is Incredibles, and most poeple owns one and it's one of the better mastered/transfered dvd out there.

edited: you also need to find out how well your display can deinterlace video signals. On most 1080p TV's, there were very few that were able to do it properly and your display built for a PC use application designed from the ground up, it might not handle interlace signals properly. In the case of the built-in deinterlacer bobbing, 720p would be the best choice, but on the deinterlacer properly weaving, then you'll probably see slightly more details on 1080i over 720p depending on the feed source material.

I'm using the Oppo with my Dell 24" Widescreen LCD monitor. Looks slightly better than when I had a tweaked out HTPC (Theatertek+ffdshow) setup.

The monitor's native res is 1920x1200. After a brief test run, I realized that I can't tell the difference at all between 720p and 1080i (they're both identically beautiful). If there was no distinguishable difference in PQ between the two resolutions, which would be a better setting to leave it at? Does it not matter at all?Bytemymac has a point because 1080i is 1920x 1080 (pretty close to your native resolution). But...

I would use 720p from the OPPO. Here's why:

Your LCD panel is natively progressive. Scaling a 720p (progressive) signal is much simpler than de-interlacing and scaling a 1080i signal.

Feeding the monitor with 1080i means that the OPPO has to de-interlace, scale, and re-interlace... then the monitor also has to de-interlace and rescale!!

However, if you feed the monitor with 720p, you will skip the 1080i re-interlacing and de-interlacing step, which eliminates any additional delays and guarantees the superb OPPO de-interlacing performance (we don't know how good the monitor's de-interlacing performance is).

Gary

I have my new Oppo hooked up via DVI->HDMI and my STB (SA8300HD) via HDMI->HDMI to my new NEC 50XR. The picture is excellent by the way. However, when I switch between the Oppo and the STB as sources for the panel, the STB->Panel connection looses it handshake (I see snow, not a no signal indication) however if I go back to the Oppo it displays fine. In order to resolve the issue I must power cycle the panel. If I choose the Oppo as a source again the same thing happens.

I understand it could be the STB or NEC, However I know for a fact the NEC Switches fine between 2 "pure" HDMI sources.

Is it a common problem to have switching issues between HDMI inputs when one is DVI->HDMI and the other is just HDMI->HDMI. I have tried the cable that came with the Oppo and a very nice and longer one I have purchased from monoprice.

Thoughts anyone?

This happens to me all the time on my Optoma H78. When I am using the component connections (Xbox360, PS2) and I switch to my cable box (DVI) I will get snow for a couple of seconds then it will re-establish a HDCP connection.

Likely, the NEC is turning off HDCP when using the OPDV971H, but not enabling it again when switching to the STB. I would contact NEC and see if there is any way to get the NEC to always be HDCP enabled.

Im considering purchasing this player and I noticed when it first came out there were concerns that it didnt support DTS. I have a Toshiba 57H84 CRT RPTV and planned on connecting this player through HDMI. Would anyone recommend this player for my tv and does anyone know if it does in fact support DTS? Thanks.

The first page of this thread and the Oppo website both state that it has a builit-in DTS decoder. It will also pass DTS out through optical to your receiver.

It includes a DVI-HDMI cable, but no audio is output through it's DVI port.

The first page of this thread and the Oppo website both state that it has a builit-in DTS decoder. It will also pass DTS out through optical to your receiver.

It includes a DVI-HDMI cable, but no audio is output through it's DVI port.

Okay good because I read this post:

Hello,

Component (480i) results added to first post.

A few things noted:

No 480p via component (or at least I couldn't figure out how to configure it) only 480i.

No built in DTS decoder

One disk lockup noted

Paul

And it kind of had me thinking of going with something else. Thanks for clearing that up.

Likely, the NEC is turning off HDCP when using the OPDV971H, but not enabling it again when switching to the STB. I would contact NEC and see if there is any way to get the NEC to always be HDCP enabled.
Nicely done...Oppo support basically came basic same explanation
From Oppo Support....
This sounds like an improper application of HDCP compliance. When the
NEC 50XR gets a signal from the OPPO player, it turns off HDCP since
the OPPO does not generate a HDCP compliant signal. When switched to
the STB (HDCP compliant), NEC 50XR does not re-enable HDCP, so the
encrypted signal from the STB appears as snow.

Although I am not completely convinced its not on the STB side, that thing can be a bit flaky...

Nicely done...Oppo support basically came basic same explanation
From Oppo Support....
This sounds like an improper application of HDCP compliance. When the
NEC 50XR gets a signal from the OPPO player, it turns off HDCP since
the OPPO does not generate a HDCP compliant signal. When switched to
the STB (HDCP compliant), NEC 50XR does not re-enable HDCP, so the
encrypted signal from the STB appears as snow.

Although I am not completely convinced its not on the STB side, that thing can be a bit flaky...

Interesting. That makes a lot of sense. I wonder if I were to run the Oppo DVI / DVI into my Samsung instead of DVI / HDMI if this would be even less likely to occur.

The new ones come with both. Before you had to choose which one you wanted. I got mine direct from oppo to make sure I had the newest version possible (I think it was 5 bucks more then amazon) and even though I chose dvi->HDMI it came with both. I purchased mine in February

I just got mine yesterday... I got both...
When you go through the order process you will see, you may want to buy from a sponsor to support the forum.

Bottom of this page....
http://www.oppodigital.com/

Connectors:

* Analog (Mixed 2 Ch) Stereo (Left, Right) Audio
* S/PDIF (IEC-958) Coaxial/Optical Digital Audio
* Component Video/Composite Video/S-Video
* DVI (5' DVI-DVI-D cable included)
* Bonus: 6' DVI-HDMI cable

EDIT: Hey... where did that question post go? must have saw the answer

bvader,

I am tired of them stealing my resonses ;)

Would the Oppo be any better than my XBOX360 as a DVD player?

I just got mine yesterday... I got both...
When you go through the order process you will see, you may want to buy from a sponsor to support the forum.

Bottom of this page....
http://www.oppodigital.com/

Connectors:

* Analog (Mixed 2 Ch) Stereo (Left, Right) Audio
* S/PDIF (IEC-958) Coaxial/Optical Digital Audio
* Component Video/Composite Video/S-Video
* DVI (5' DVI-DVI-D cable included)
* Bonus: 6' DVI-HDMI cable

EDIT: Hey... where did that question post go? must have saw the answer

I just ordered one from amazon because it was the same price but free shipping - but now that I look back I dont think it comes with DVI-HDMI cable. :mad: I check back 20 minutes after ordering and it says its already being prepared for shipment and cannot be cancelled. :mad: :mad: :mad: So do I need a DVI/Male to HDMI/Male cable?

I just ordered one from amazon because it was the same price but free shipping - but now that I look back I dont think it comes with DVI-HDMI cable. :mad: I check back 20 minutes after ordering and it says its already being prepared for shipment and cannot be cancelled. :mad: :mad: :mad: So do I need a DVI/Male to HDMI/Male cable?

The new units should have both cables. I would not worry.

I hope you're right. Because theres nothing worse than getting a new toy in the mail and not being able to play with it.

Don't worry about amazon having the cable. I ordered mine 2 days ago and it arrived this afternoon with both cables and newest firmware and remote. Picture looks absoletely amazing. My older DVD player was 480i. This makes my dvds (including backup ones that don't have major compression) look almost like HD picture.

OK, this is probably obvious, but . . . ,

My display converts 720p to 1080i. I assume, then, that I should set the Oppo for 1080i and not 720p output, right?

Another question: Any chance that the oppo will support .mov files in the future?

I purchased this player and spent a few minutes with it today. So far seems to be a very nice picture.

One question though...seems that anything that has angles authored with an on-screen prompt can't be turned off. I've gone into set-up and noticed that this item should default to off but re-set it to off again just to be sure but angles prompts still appear. Am I doing something wrong?

Lee

I purchased this player and spent a few minutes with it today. So far seems to be a very nice picture.

One question though...seems that anything that has angles authored with an on-screen prompt can't be turned off. I've gone into set-up and noticed that this item should default to off but re-set it to off again just to be sure but angles prompts still appear. Am I doing something wrong?

Lee

Some discs will trigger the icon even when the Angle has been turned Off on the OPDV971H. Turning it On then Off again will fix this. You may also want to change the Angle icon to Off when there is no disc in the DVD unit, turn it off, then turn it on again and attempt playback again.

Several discs that have been reported as having the Angle Icon appearing all the time (such as Tomorrow Never Dies) stopped doing this with the F-0302 firmware with the mark Off.

OK, this is probably obvious, but . . .

My display converts 720p to 1080i. I assume, then, that I should set the Oppo for 1080i and not 720p output, right?

Yes, use 1080i.

Another question: Any chance that the oppo will support .mov files in the future?

Likely not, as it would cost them money to license the playback (which is why MP4 has not been added to the unit).

Several discs that have been reported as having the Angle Icon appearing all the time (such as Tomorrow Never Dies) stopped doing this with the F-0302 firmware with the mark Off.

The disc I was playing was the new release of Titanic. I did try going into the set-up menu and turn the setting on, then off again and that didn't help. I'll try to mess around wiht it more tonight.

Thanks,
Lee

I wanted to see if anyone else has had the same issue as I’m having.

On some DVD’s I get splotchy blacks. If I go and turn on true life it goes away (same chapter), but soon shows up again (about 15 mins.). I have to cycle the true life to make it go away again. Is this a bad chipset or what?

Thanks!

Jjufon

TV. Sony KDS-R50XBR1

Would the Oppo be any better than my XBOX360 as a DVD player?OH YEAH! Assuming you have an HDTV to show it off.

Gary

On some DVD’s I get splotchy blacks. If I go and turn on true life it goes away (same chapter), but soon shows up again (about 15 mins.). I have to cycle the true life to make it go away again. Is this a bad chipset or what? Since this only occurs on some DVD's, it is most likely a calibration issue. At the very least, you need to properly adjust your TV's brightness, contrast and saturation to the new player.

It could also be macroblocking. See this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7270763#post7270763).

Gary

Does this unit not remember where it left off when you turn it off?? Is there a setting I have to enable?

ingenue007,

Link to the new user's manual:

http://www.oppodigital.com/Download/OPDV971H_User_Manual.pdf

See page 22 (26 of 40) in the .pdf

1. If you must interrupt the playback and would like to resume from the
interrupted position at a later time, you may press the EJECT button
on the remote control to eject the disc. While ejecting the disc the
DVD player will save the current playing position.
2. The position is memorized even after turning off the unit or changing
the disc.
3. When the next time the disc with a memorized playing position is
played back, the DVD player will remind you of the saved playing
position. You may press the SELECT button to resume playback from
the saved position, or press any other button to play from the
beginning of the disc.

Paul

jjufon,

Splotchiness or an afterimage?. If noise reduction is turned on an afterimage can be seen in the black area. Movement of items within that black area can leave "splotchy" looking areas as well.

As Gary indicated, make sure the set is calibrated and the black levels precisely set. If any picture enhancement modes are set, these modes can make the calibration unpredictable.

paul

The new units should have both cables. I would not worry.
Both cables included as stated on OPPO site, regardless where you buy a unit from.

Would the Oppo be any better than my XBOX360 as a DVD player?


I'd have to 2nd GSB's input. I had just went from watching DVDs from the xbox360 on my 42" Westly to using the Oppo. Very big difference!!!

jjufon,

Splotchiness or an afterimage?. If noise reduction is turned on an afterimage can be seen in the black area. Movement of items within that black area can leave "splotchy" looking areas as well.

As Gary indicated, make sure the set is calibrated and the black levels precisely set. If any picture enhancement modes are set, these modes can make the calibration unpredictable.

paul

Both. but as i stated, i can make it go away by turning on the truelife, but it only lasts for a few mins. the problem pops up again and i have to cycle the truelife again to make it go away. same DVD same chapter etc.
the only settings are truelife and CCS.

thanks,
Jjufon

[sorry wrong thread].

thanks for the info on how to resume playback. what's odd is that i can't find that anywhere in my print manual from the box.

what i do is hit eject and turn it off quickly before it can eject. then when i start it up, it will ask me if i want to resume. stupid resume feature IMO.

thanks for the info on how to resume playback. what's odd is that i can't find that anywhere in my print manual from the box.

what i do is hit eject and turn it off quickly before it can eject. then when i start it up, it will ask me if i want to resume. stupid resume feature IMO.Indeed. I found the procedure how to resume using MSN search. Not in the manual as well.
However, I noticed that not all time it resumes, sometimes it starts from begining. Did you check if it can remember resume point for more than one disk? I wish to have resume feature for DivX too.

Moved from an HTPC/CRT setup to an Oppo/Sony Ruby configuration. So far, I am pretty frustrated.

The lip sync between the sound and video is a constant problem. This is a consistent and seemingly DVD-variable problem. Had the audio delay set to 30-50ms before. Upgraded to the latest firmware, and set it to about 60. Tonight we watched a movie that I needed to set to the max of 100ms, and it still wasn't right. It was a constant distraction that made a stuning picture reduced to a constant remote control fiddle.

Ouch - this really sucks! I never, ever had this problem with my HTPC running TheaterTek. I have never had this problem with any other DVD player (I have owned about 4).

Seeing that the latest Oppo firmware releases are all about audio sync, it appears that great picture aside, they don't have their act together on feeding a syncrhonized audio track out the connectors.

Am thinking about changing players after less than 2 months. (No discrete power-on/power-off commands contribute to this).

Yikes...

Ken

Moved from an HTPC/CRT setup to an Oppo/Sony Ruby configuration. So far, I am pretty frustrated.

The lip sync between the sound and video is a constant problem. This is a consistent and seemingly DVD-variable problem. Had the audio delay set to 30-50ms before. Upgraded to the latest firmware, and set it to about 60. Tonight we watched a movie that I needed to set to the max of 100ms, and it still wasn't right. It was a constant distraction that made a stuning picture reduced to a constant remote control fiddle.

Ouch - this really sucks! I never, ever had this problem with my HTPC running TheaterTek. I have never had this problem with any other DVD player (I have owned about 4).

Seeing that the latest Oppo firmware releases are all about audio sync, it appears that great picture aside, they don't have their act together on feeding a syncrhonized audio track out the connectors.

Am thinking about changing players after less than 2 months. (No discrete power-on/power-off commands contribute to this).

Yikes...

Ken

Ken, sorry to hear you are having problems.

Firstly, if you are using RAW output for audio then the oppo's audio delay doesn't work. It only works on PCM (which is stereo only) or the analogue out.

Secondly, if you fiddle with the menus whilst playing a DVD then the a/v sync will be adversely affected.

Thirdly, have you tried the 0220 firmware which has the sync fix (though it does cause some other problems), was it any better? If this was better then contact oppo, explain your frustration, and they may send you the 0313beta fix firmware which has the a/v fix and has removed the other problems associated with 0220 (though, frustratingly, oppo aren't generally releasing it yet).

Last, can you use your receiver to delay the audio? Most decent receivers have some kind of delay and if you are blessed with a ruby surely you have something good.

Hope it works out for you.

Dave

Hi guys, I have the HP MD5880N which is a natively 1080p DLP TV, so I wonder if it's better to set my Oppo to 720p or 1080i?

Hi guys, I have the HP MD5880N which is a natively 1080p DLP TV, so I wonder if it's better to set my Oppo to 720p or 1080i? Good question, but for the following reasons, 720p would be better:


A 1080p TV is natively progressive.
Feeding the display with 1080i means that the OPPO has to de-interlace the 480i signal on the DVD, scale it to 540p, and re-interlace it for 1080i. Then the display has to de-interlace it again.
Feeding the display with 720p, means that de-interlacing happens only once (with superb OPPO performance) and the display has only scaling to do, which is much simpler than de-interlacing.
The Faroudja chip does not handle interlaced output quite as well as progressive.
Many 1080p TV's are known to deinterlace 1080i with half the resolution that they should.
You could also choose to feed it with 480p, so that scaling happens only once (in the TV). However, TV scalers are often not as good as the OPPO scalers. Give it a try, though, and compare the results.

If your TV has a really good de-interlacer and scaler, another solution could be to feed it with 480i HDMI from the OPPO DV-970HD, and let the TV handle everything. Unfortunately, TV manufacturers are trying to spend less and less on upconversion, so it is highly unlikely that they will beat the performance of the DV-971H.

Gary

Seeing that the latest Oppo firmware releases are all about audio sync, it appears that great picture aside, they don't have their act together on feeding a syncrhonized audio track out the connectors. Ken, the 0220 FW has the audio sync improvements, but there is still a constant video delay due to Faroudja frame-buffering (added to any external delays in the display). We are hoping OPPO will be able to provide an audio delay for the "RAW" output, but that entirely depends upon whether hardware will allow it. In the mean time, try the OPPO's analog outputs and the "Audio Delay" feature.

Gary

Ok, my oppo came in the mail yesterday. I hooked it up to my 37" philips lcd and got alot of noise, and little random color pixels. Is this the macroblock bug,? I played with all the settings, but as of right now my Xbox 360 looks better than the picture I am getting. Any help would be appreciated.

If you got what can be described as "sparklies" then it could be cable related. Check your cable routing and connections. Sometimes they can pick up interference easily.

Ken, the 0220 FW has the audio sync improvements, but there is still a constant video delay due to Faroudja frame-buffering (added to any external delays in the display). We are hoping OPPO will be able to provide an audio delay for the "RAW" output, but that entirely depends upon whether hardware will allow it. In the mean time, try the OPPO's analog outputs and the "Audio Delay" feature.

Gary

Do you mean to try the analog audio or analog video outputs?

If you got what can be described as "sparklies" then it could be cable related. Check your cable routing and connections. Sometimes they can pick up interference easily.

Thanks for the input. I'll mess the the cable when I get home. I may try swapping HDMI inputs to see if it's the TV.

Do you mean to try the analog audio or analog video outputs?
Audio

Ken, the 0220 FW has the audio sync improvements, but there is still a constant video delay due to Faroudja frame-buffering (added to any external delays in the display). We are hoping OPPO will be able to provide an audio delay for the "RAW" output, but that entirely depends upon whether hardware will allow it. In the mean time, try the OPPO's analog outputs and the "Audio Delay" feature.

Gary

I believe there is something else happening too. I've seen sync errror over component as well. Which leads me to think it is sometimes introduced to the chain even before it reaches the Faroudja chip. Maybe both. I only know of one DVD that caused problems equally from the two outputs and that is The Eagles Farewell I disc. There could be more. I was listening to the DTS stream. My display is CRT and hasn't exhibited any delay that I've been able to detect prior. The delay was gone with another player. Having seen the same amount and repeatable delay over both DVI and component makes me think there is something amiss before it ever reaches the DVI board. Perhaps someone else can do some testing with this as well.

How often are oppo 971h owners experiencing audio/video sync issues with regular movie dvd's?

Is there some basic advice for how to setup the Oppo with an lcd projector? Cross Colour suppresion settings? Noise reduction? Other calibration settings in the unit?

thanx,

:)

Is there some basic advice for how to setup the Oppo with an lcd projector? Cross Colour suppresion settings?

Turn it off. This is not needed for 99% of all DVDs.

Noise reduction?

Does more harm than good. Turn it off.

Other calibration settings in the unit?

"TrueLife" is debatable. Try it both ways and see if you notice a difference. All of the other picture calibration settings should be left at zero. Do your calibrations at the TV, not the DVD player.

How often are oppo 971h owners experiencing audio/video sync issues with regular movie dvd's?

Is there some basic advice for how to setup the Oppo with an lcd projector? Cross Colour suppresion settings? Noise reduction? Other calibration settings in the unit?

thanx,

:)

I have an LCD pj (ae 700) and I experience very, very rare sync issues--though I do have a 70ms delay set on my receiver. The accepted wisdom as to settings on the oppo is to have everything at default or at off. Truelife can be beneficial sometimes but it's not popular with all. Check back in the thread for GSB's info on possible macroblock enhance problems and how to control them.

Be aware that the oppo's audio delay doesn't work on RAW out.

Dave

I believe there is something else happening too. I've seen sync errror over component as well. Which leads me to think it is sometimes introduced to the chain even before it reaches the Faroudja chip. Maybe both. I only know of one DVD that caused problems equally from the two outputs and that is The Eagles Farewell I disc. There could be more. I was listening to the DTS stream. My display is CRT and hasn't exhibited any delay that I've been able to detect prior. The delay was gone with another player. Having seen the same amount and repeatable delay over both DVI and component makes me think there is something amiss before it ever reaches the DVI board. Perhaps someone else can do some testing with this as well. Yes GFletch, there was discussion about this around the time of the 0220 FW release. We had made some oscilloscope measurements and discovered that the MTK chipset was involved in the A/V sync problem. Those findings formed the basis of the A/V sync fix in the 0220 FW, which eliminated the variability of the delay, but still introduces a small contant video delay. However, the MTK chip is not the only cause.

The Faroudja chip introduces a constant delay too, because it has to buffer a few frames of video for the de-interlacing and scaling process (this is unavoidable). Your display will add a third delay into the mix (the size of which, depends on the type of display, and the amount of processing it does). Most DVD's have sync errors too (even the A/V sync test on DVE varies from soundtrack to soundtrack!!) All my Superbit DVD's have additional sync error on the DTS tracks (it may have to do with the encoding process).

These 4 sources of video delays are cumulative. OPPO introduced the "Audio Delay" feature to help compensate, but it currently does not function on the "RAW" output.

Gary

What does "RAW" output mean?

RAW sends the encoded Dolby / DTS signal to your receiver digitally for it to decode, vs having the Oppo DVD player do the decoding.

These 4 sources of video delays are cumulative. OPPO introduced the "Audio Delay" feature to help compensate, but it currently does not function on the "RAW" output.

I've had plans to order an OPPO player for some time now to go with my AE700, but unfortunately this is a deal-breaker for me as my receiver doesn't have any audio delay functions.

I wonder if they'll ever support delay on the raw output?

Probably not, but the new A/V Sync beta seems to be working correctly for most users.

I've had plans to order an OPPO player for some time now to go with my AE700, but unfortunately this is a deal-breaker for me as my receiver doesn't have any audio delay functions.

I wonder if they'll ever support delay on the raw output?


I have the Oppo with the AE700. In the beginning, I noticed lip synch on a few occassions with the older firmware. Running the 0220 firmware, I have not noticed it at all recently. We watched the 3 plus hour King Kong last night and there was no lip synch. I am also using the RAW output.

I have the Oppo with the AE700. In the beginning, I noticed lip synch on a few occassions with the older firmware. Running the 0220 firmware, I have not noticed it at all recently. We watched the 3 plus hour King Kong last night and there was no lip synch. I am also using the RAW output.


I wish King Kong had lip sync issues on my Oppo - I would have had a valid reason to turn the movie off :D

where is the a/v sync beta? i can't find a link in the search....thanks

where is the a/v sync beta? i can't find a link in the search....thanks


0220 is linked on the oppo support page.

where is the a/v sync beta? i can't find a link in the search....thanks
The 0313 beta isn't being released by oppo yet--though it does work. An unsually infuriating lapse from the best company in the world.

Dave

The 0313 beta isn't being released by oppo yet--though it does work. An unsusally infuriating lapse from the besst company in the world.

Dave

I suspect Oppo is just being careful this time after the 0220 release was buggy. I think I'd like to just wait for a firmware release that is bug free. The audio sync problem is as old as the player itself (over a year now), another week or two or even a little longer than that waiting for a fully tested firmware isn't going to hurt. It certainly isn't a lapse on the part of Oppo.

I suspect Oppo is just being careful this time after the 0220 release was buggy. I think I'd like to just wait for a firmware release that is bug free. The audio sync problem is as old as the player itself (over a year now), another week or two or even a little longer than that waiting for a fully tested firmware isn't going to hurt. It certainly isn't a lapse on the part of Oppo.

I'm sure you are both right and fair. It's just that it seems to me that lip-sync is the deal breaker on this player with a lot of folk and if the firmware has been out for a fortnight and pulled through OK (assuming it has) it's no skin off oppo's nose to make it available--maybe the retailers wouldn't be as happy though, especially as 0220 became 0302 so quickly.

Dave

You know I have the lipsync issue also with the DD 5.1 optical out, but it doesn't affect all my discs. I know I have some serious lipsync issues with the Babylon 5 TV series but I had no issues with other DVD movies like Underworld SB (DTS track). Come to think about it I don't remember any lipsync issues with any DTS track, but I might be wrong.

I ordered one but havent received it yet. You guys are making me nervous now. To me, there is nothing more annoying when watching a movie than lip sync issues. I really hope Oppo releases that beta to the public soon.

well not everyone has lip sync issues. mine is working fine.

Just curious how hot does your oppo get after playing DVD for about an hour. Especially on the side where the power cord is. Mine get very very warm.... more close to being hot. It kinda bothers me since it's running hotter than my av receiver after hour of blasting music.

well not everyone has lip sync issues. mine is working fine.

Same here

Just curious how hot does your oppo get after playing DVD for about an hour. Especially on the side where the power cord is. Mine get very very warm.... more close to being hot. It kinda bothers me since it's running hotter than my av receiver after hour of blasting music.

My unit gets only slightly warm, but I have it placed above my enclosed equipment rack on top of a laserdisc player that is never used at the same time as the Oppo.

I ordered one but havent received it yet. You guys are making me nervous now. To me, there is nothing more annoying when watching a movie than lip sync issues. I really hope Oppo releases that beta to the public soon.

Dont get nervous...I for one havent had any issues...but as you can read from previous posts in this thread Oppo supports its end users like NO OTHER company....hope you enjoy your player when you get it.. :D

My unit gets only slightly warm, but I have it placed above my enclosed equipment rack on top of a laserdisc player that is never used at the same time as the Oppo.

The Oppo gets hotter than most DVD players. I doubt there is a problem with yours. Even the DVD gets warm.

Dave,

Thanks for the pointers -- response (so far) below..

Ken, sorry to hear you are having problems.

Firstly, if you are using RAW output for audio then the oppo's audio delay doesn't work. It only works on PCM (which is stereo only) or the analogue out.

This was a point I had missed -- I had been using the RAW outs. I have the analog outs set up for playing DVD-Audio disks, so I switched over to that and it was more correctable. However, I hate to have a $200 DVD player doing audio conversion and then going through an extra pair of D/A - A/D's before reaching the speakers.

Secondly, if you fiddle with the menus whilst playing a DVD then the a/v sync will be adversely affected.
In hindsight, I did notice that (didn't trace it to that issue -- was watching the movie with my family, so I didn't have the freedom to experiment). I notices that when I hit "Stop" and then "Play" it synced up again.

Thirdly, have you tried the 0220 firmware which has the sync fix (though it does cause some other problems), was it any better? If this was better then contact oppo, explain your frustration, and they may send you the 0313beta fix firmware which has the a/v fix and has removed the other problems associated with 0220 (though, frustratingly, oppo aren't generally releasing it yet).
I will get time to try this tomorrow. Daughter has been home from college this week, and when I have time to be in the theater, we are using it. She goes back tomorrow and I will try out a few things.

Last, can you use your receiver to delay the audio? Most decent receivers have some kind of delay and if you are blessed with a ruby surely you have something good.

I have a B&K Reference 50 for the audio processing. I poked through the manuals for it and it does not have general delay adjustments -- only for speaker setup. I would need delay adjustments on a per-input basis, as I also feed an HD satellite reciever through this, and it doesn't show any noticable lip sync issues.

Thanks for the pointers! I have liked the PQ - but then, I changed both the PJ (from a 6" CRT) and the player at the same time.

Ken

Is there a way to turn off the blue LED lights on this player? They are quite bright in my darkened theater.

Is there a way to turn off the blue LED lights on this player? They are quite bright in my darkened theater.
In one of the menus there's a light on/off toggle.

Dave

Hi Guys:
I purchased the Oppo dvd player after reading many of the posts on this thread. AVS has been a great help with me putting together my theater. I have a Panasonic 900 with the Oppo, Carada 110 BW screen, Bell HD Sat., Yamaha 2600 Receiver and Klipsch RF 35 speakers. Everything works great but I do have a couple of questions about the Oppo. I had a lens shift issue at first, when switching from HD sat to DVD the DVD shifted about 3-4". I was about to upgrade the firmware but after unplugging it to re-route the wires the lens shift went away ??

The picture quality on Sat is stunning -- HD looks superb but the DVD quality is much less. I have tried most of the settings but the picture is a bit grainy and the colours are not nearly as rich. I am connected to the Yamaha with HDMI on both sat and dvd and one HDMI cable up to the projector. If I connect the DVD to the tuner with component cables and let the Yam. convert to HDMI - to the projector the colour is much more natural ??? Any thoughts - the projector settings must be fine or the sat and component would look dull so I assume it is something to do with the hdmi setting on the dvd ?? I do have everything set for 720p.

Thanks for your help

Same here

No lip sync issue either.

Mark

Hi Guys:
I purchased the Oppo dvd player after reading many of the posts on this thread. AVS has been a great help with me putting together my theater. I have a Panasonic 900 with the Oppo, Carada 110 BW screen, Bell HD Sat., Yamaha 2600 Receiver and Klipsch RF 35 speakers. Everything works great but I do have a couple of questions about the Oppo. I had a lens shift issue at first, when switching from HD sat to DVD the DVD shifted about 3-4". I was about to upgrade the firmware but after unplugging it to re-route the wires the lens shift went away ??

The picture quality on Sat is stunning -- HD looks superb but the DVD quality is much less. I have tried most of the settings but the picture is a bit grainy and the colours are not nearly as rich. I am connected to the Yamaha with HDMI on both sat and dvd and one HDMI cable up to the projector. If I connect the DVD to the tuner with component cables and let the Yam. convert to HDMI - to the projector the colour is much more natural ??? Any thoughts - the projector settings must be fine or the sat and component would look dull so I assume it is something to do with the hdmi setting on the dvd ?? I do have everything set for 720p.

Thanks for your help

3 thoughts. Firstly the component out of the oppo is known to be oversaturated and to push both green and red. Frankly it should look awful and in no way better than the oppo through DVI. Secondly, you'll need a completely different pj calibration for each input, i.e., HD and Oppo (this may expain what you are seeing). That's pretty easy to do on an ae900 (if it's anything like the 700) just select a different picture mode and calibrate it. Lastly, comparisons between SD DVD and HD are really unfair. If HD looks better it should. That's why in 2 years time we'll all have upgraded to it.

Dave

In one of the menus there's a light on/off toggle.

Dave

Can you be a little more specific.

Can you be a little more specific.
Well, you could check the shiny new updated manual on the Oppo site, but I believe it is on the first page of the Setup menu, and I'm pretty sure it's called "Light Control". Turn it off to switch off the blue button lights on the front of the player.

I just recieved my Oppo yesterday, so far I'm impressed with it. The one problem I'm having is that when I try to switch it to 720p, the screen becomes very distorted and there's actually 3 repeating pictures across my screen. Every other resolution including 1080i work fine. I just want to try 720p to see if it looks any better. Any ideas why it would do that? Could it be my TV in that it can display 1080i but not 720p?

I just recieved my Oppo yesterday, so far I'm impressed with it. The one problem I'm having is that when I try to switch it to 720p, the screen becomes very distorted and there's actually 3 repeating pictures across my screen. Every other resolution including 1080i work fine. I just want to try 720p to see if it looks any better. Any ideas why it would do that? Could it be my TV in that it can display 1080i but not 720p?
What's your display device?

Dave

We've been using the Bravo D-1 for a couple of years and have been VERY happy with the picture quality via DVI ouput. Unfortunately, the D-1 seems to have some alignment issues after you use the player for a year or so. (We have two of them; both ran into the same problem). After reading the forum, we ordered the Oppo. Must to my surprise, the picture qualify is noticeably better. There appears to be greater depth of field, sharpness, and overall smoothness. My wife isn't as picky as I am, but she agrees that the picture looks (in her words) "clearer". We use the DVI output, at 720p, feeding a Sim2 HT-300+ projector onto a Stewart Firehawk 16x9 screen.

The Oppo gets hotter than most DVD players. I doubt there is a problem with yours. Even the DVD gets warm.

You're misreading what I'm saying. Unlike what some are saying, I posted to say that I don't have any problem with heat; the player only gets slightly warm and DVDs also come out only slightly warm. My Oppo gets no hotter than the average DVD player. But unlike most, I don't place my Oppo around other equipment that's getting hot or keep it in an enclosed cabinet.

I just recieved my Oppo yesterday, so far I'm impressed with it. The one problem I'm having is that when I try to switch it to 720p, the screen becomes very distorted and there's actually 3 repeating pictures across my screen. Every other resolution including 1080i work fine. I just want to try 720p to see if it looks any better. Any ideas why it would do that? Could it be my TV in that it can display 1080i but not 720p?

It's very possible that it's the display. Some displays will accept either 720p or 1080i, but not both. The older Pioneer displays were like that, in that they would not accept a 720p signal at all. My newer pioneer does accept 720p but then uses it's own internal scaler to upconvert the 720p to 1080i. My bet is that it's your display.

My player gets super hot. Especially right above the power button. I wonder if it is an effect of this problem I'm having:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7419671

But then again, I'm placing my Oppo directly on top of my receiver. I'm gonna get this fixed as soon as I find some stands.

For a very short while I had mine sitting on top of my Comcast DVR and it was maybe a day or so before I noticed the slight burning smell... needless to say I had to do some rearranging pretty quick. I don't think the Oppo was the main culprit as the DVR runs ridiculously hot sometimes.

In one of the menus there's a light on/off toggle.

Dave
Really? Great, thanks. I must have somehow overlooked that option.

Well, you could check the shiny new updated manual on the Oppo site, but I believe it is on the first page of the Setup menu, and I'm pretty sure it's called "Light Control". Turn it off to switch off the blue button lights on the front of the player.

Sorry, posted on the wrong forum. Thanks for the reply anyway.

After reading the forum, we ordered the Oppo. Must to my surprise, the picture qualify is noticeably better. There appears to be greater depth of field, sharpness, and overall smoothness. My wife isn't as picky as I am, but she agrees that the picture looks (in her words) "clearer". We use the DVI output, at 720p, feeding a Sim2 HT-300+ projector onto a Stewart Firehawk 16x9 screen.

I have used the Oppo for over a year now @480p & 720p with my Infocus 4805 and he picture is just beautiful. I recently bought the Bravo D1 for 1:1 pixel mapping and boy the picture is simply stunning, noise free and sharper than the Oppo. The Bravo is picky about which disk it plays though especially DVD-R and I am not sure about it's long term reliability. I will keep the Oppo around just in case the Bravo decided to quit working.

My player gets super hot. Especially right above the power button. I wonder if it is an effect of this problem I'm having:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7419671

But then again, I'm placing my Oppo directly on top of my receiver. I'm gonna get this fixed as soon as I find some stands.

I have my receiver placed at the very bottom of my equipment rack with nothing directly on top of it. The Oppo is several shelves up and there are six other pieces of equipment between my receiver and the Oppo. Putting anything directly above your receiver is asking for trouble.

But if you have to have something sitting on or near the receiver, I've had success using a laptop fan cooling unit placed between equipment to keep everything cool (I use this currently with an iScan VP30 video processor that tends to run hot without extra fan cooling). I also have a small fan located behind my equipment rack.

I have an RCA HD52W59 if that helps.

Now my problem is, I was just watching a South park DVD and in the middle of an episode the picture went to crap, it's very reddish and a lot of discolored pixels. Anything that's supposed to be black is red now, even the black bars on the side of the 4:3 dvds. It's not the TV because I tried my PS2 and Cable box and they were fine, and it's not the dvi cable because I tried it on my cable box and it was fine, it's just when I play any dvd now. It's weird that it just happened in the middle of an episode. I tried resetting it to factory default but no luck.

Well I just got a 26" panasonic tc-26LX60 LCD/HDTV and hooked it up to my oppo..also invested in monster audio cables and dvi/hdmi cable. I was floored folks. Now I know what I've been missing. Just about every dvd I have in my collection I'm enjoying again. The picture at 720p is absolutely beautiful...stunning! No noise..crisp sharp images...impressive sound...and full beautiful colors.. :D This is the best two hundred bucks I've spent as far as I'm concerned. Also purchasing the 26" panny lcd tv was a good choice. I had a sharp crt as my tv...for 19 years!..still works.. :p but it was about time to upgrade. I'm very impressed with the oppo/panny combo. Now I'm thinking of investing in a good surround sound system. :D

...I was just watching a South park DVD and in the middle of an episode the picture went to crap, it's very reddish and a lot of discolored pixels. Anything that's supposed to be black is red now, even the black bars on the side of the 4:3 dvds. It's not the TV because I tried my PS2 and Cable box and they were fine, and it's not the dvi cable because I tried it on my cable box and it was fine, it's just when I play any dvd now. It's weird that it just happened in the middle of an episode. I tried resetting it to factory default but no luck. Try unplugging the player for 15 mins to reset it. If that doesn't work, it may be time to call OPPO.

One more thing: I assume you are using the cable supplied by OPPO? A long cable run can spell trouble unless you use a high-quality cable.

Gary

Ok, my oppo came in the mail yesterday. I hooked it up to my 37" philips lcd and got alot of noise, and little random color pixels. Is this the macroblock bug,? I played with all the settings, but as of right now my Xbox 360 looks better than the picture I am getting. Any help would be appreciated.

After some advice, I tried changing cable to eliminate "sparklies" and noise. It didn't help. I still get a better picture from my xbox 360. Does anyone have more advice for me?

I tried unplugging it but it didn't do anything. I'm using a Monster dvi cable. I tried using the cable that came with the player, but no difference. I haven't had the thing two days and it's already busted.

Don't know if this has been asked before, but I couldn't find anything in a few searches...

my Tosh RPTV (65HDX82) only has a single DVI input, and I was trying to share a cable between 2 devices (Sony's up-converting NS70H DVD player and the Oppo 971H)

since the Sony outputs over HDMI, I was trying to share the same cable (HDMI to DVI) with the Oppo by using an HDMI (female) to DVI (male) adapter - in that way I presumed I could remove the cable's HDMI end from the Sony, and plug it into the adapter and then into the Oppo (to save time fiddling around behind the TV every time I wanted to change players)

strangely, whenever I try to watch the Oppo through this adapter/cable, there is usually a screen glitch or dropout after about 10 minutes or so (sometimes the entire screen blanks for a moment)

having watched the Oppo subsequently using ONLY the DVI-DVI cable, I have NEVER seen a glitch or dropout, and I know the HDMI-DVI cable worked flawlessly with the Sony, so does this mean there's something wrong with the adapter - I thought the DVI/HDMI signalling was equivalent for video, so why would I be seeing this glitching?

cheers

m

ps - I have found 1 other example of somebody (Crispin) describing what sounds like a similar phenomenon:
Gefen Forum Link (http://forum.gefen.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=609)

After some advice, I tried changing cable to eliminate "sparklies" and noise. It didn't help. I still get a better picture from my xbox 360. Does anyone have more advice for me?

Are the sparkles assigned in a specefic area (such as a vertical strip) or are they completely random?

I tried unplugging it but it didn't do anything. I'm using a Monster dvi cable. I tried using the cable that came with the player, but no difference. I haven't had the thing two days and it's already busted.

I would try another DVI based display device, such as a PC LCD monitor for further diagnostic testing. Otherwise, your unit is not working correctly.

having watched the Oppo subsequently using ONLY the DVI-DVI cable, I have NEVER seen a glitch or dropout, and I know the HDMI-DVI cable worked flawlessly with the Sony, so does this mean there's something wrong with the adapter - I thought the DVI/HDMI signalling was equivalent for video, so why would I be seeing this glitching?

I know there have been problems in the past associated to Monster DVI-HDMI adapters and the OPDV971H. If you are using a Monster DVI-HDMI adapter, try switching it out for a different one, such as those available from MonoPrice.com.

I bought dvi/hdmi cables from blue jeans cables. Are these cables going to be better than the cables that came with the oppo?

thanks Neuromancer

it was an AR (Acoustic Research) adapter - ridiculously overpriced from Future Shop (Best Buy) here in Canada - and apparently not at all worth the money :-)

think I've come to the conclusion I'll just return the Sony DVD player (and the adapter) and go all-Oppo all the time... :-)

...since it has no problems whatsoever with the pure-DVI cable

hopefully the lip-sync issues will be resolved imminently
(I rarely notice a problem - usually after some Setup menu navigation I guess)
I sat through all 3 hours of King Kong without seeing any issues, so that's a good sign

I have noticed the occasional large-scale blockiness on divx playback which is non-repeatable - sometimes a whole area goes blocky, but it doesn't do the same thing on rewind and playback - is that a known issue?

quite frankly, I'm just glad to be able to watch 25fps divx on my NTSC TV period!

I have noticed the occasional large-scale blockiness on divx playback which is non-repeatable - sometimes a whole area goes blocky, but it doesn't do the same thing on rewind and playback - is that a known issue?

This is very common on all DivX players (even PCs). It is something that will occur occassionally. It can be rather annoying, but is the price you pay for low density, high content playback.

I rented Chicken Little last night and while watching there were French subtitles on the screen. Not your typical subtitles, but only when there was a specific item on the screen. I.E. At the bus stop there was a subtitle that showed up that I assumed was "Bus Stop" and when there was a sign at the school that read "gymnasium" there was antoher that showed "gymnasium" I don't know french but that's what I would assume. It didn't have the subtitles during dialogue, just at these certain descriptive sceen shots.

I had everything set for no subtitles in the DVD menu as well as the OPPO menu, but it still happened. I put the DVD in my other player and it didn't show up.

Do I have an OPPO that like to freelance in french?

Rob

Highside,

This is a known issue with all Disney/Buena Vista/Miramax movies. You will need to go through the DVD menu system and manually select "No Subtitles" or "Subtitles Off" for these studio releases. OPPO is aware of the problem but have not come to a solution as of yet.

I have my Oppo connected via a Monoprice HDMI switcher 5X1 switch to my Sanyo PLV-Z4 projector. When I press the 'DVI' button on my remote the Oppo acknowledges the command by displaying a symbol in the top left corner which I belives indicates that it is not upconverting.

Everything *appears* to be connected appropriately. Any suggestions where I should go next re troubleshooting?

Regards

Brit

I have my Oppo connected via a Monoprice HDMI switcher 5X1 switch to my Sanyo PLV-Z4 projector. When I press the 'DVI' button on my remote the Oppo acknowledges the command by displaying a symbol in the top left corner which I belives indicates that it is not upconverting.

Everything *appears* to be connected appropriately. Any suggestions where I should go next re troubleshooting?

Regards

Brit

You can only change resolutions while the player is stopped.

Brit, I think you must press STOP for that button to work correctly.

Do you like the switcher? I've ordered one, but its delayed at customs.

Duh!

Thanks guys....and yes the switcher is great - seems well constructed and no drop in quality

Magic144, I have been using the same adapter with the oppo since january. Purchased at best buy and yes it is overpriced. Bought it so I could use the cool blue HDMI-HDMI cables that Geffen packs with their 3x1 HDMI switcher. Works fine for me. And my total HDMI cable run to my BenQ PE7700 is 45 feet. No sparklies or other issues. Now if the pj would get back with a new bulb and firmware, well thats another story.

I bought dvi/hdmi cables from blue jeans cables. Are these cables going to be better than the cables that came with the oppo? No. The OPPO cables are high-quality, and perfect for the job. The only reason to upgrade cables is if you need a longer cable-run.

Gary

No. The OPPO cables are high-quality, and perfect for the job. The only reason to upgrade cables is if you need a longer cable-run.

Gary I did need a longer run (15 feet as I recall), and the Blue Jeans cable I bought seems to be working fine.

Are the sparkles assigned in a specefic area (such as a vertical strip) or are they completely random?

The sparklies usually show up in a specific area. In the middle of the picture shifted a bit to the right. Oppo has offered to send me a new player, but I don't know if this is a defect, or just my display compatability.

Sparkles are usually all over the screen. You can notice them on black backgrounds the most. I am using the 25' Monoprice cables with their switcher and I have no problems.

The sparklies usually show up in a specific area. In the middle of the picture shifted a bit to the right. Oppo has offered to send me a new player, but I don't know if this is a defect, or just my display compatability.

Then you have a defective DVI board. If the sparkles are random, then it is likely cable related. If they are isloated into a single region, then the board itself needs to be replaced.

As promised, for anyone one interested I did a little comparison of paring my NEC 50XR5 with the Oppo 971H and the new Sony NS75H dvd players. It was writen more for the NS75H folks/comparison folks, but I think it answers the the bottom line question I was asked for the Oppo, Amazing PQ and I am not observing and MBE when pair with the NEC 50XR... yet ... I think I will be keeping the Oppo, the more I use it the more I like it.

You can find the details here....

NEC 50XR with Oppo 971H and Sony NS75H (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7425964&&#post7425964)

bvader,

You have one too many HTTP:// in your link.

bvader,

You have one too many HTTP:// in your link.

Oops! Thx, its fixed now... :o

I wonder if the probs I had with the Oppo and DVI/HDMI adapter were due to the fact that I had the adapter at the Oppo end of the cable, and that it introduced HDMI where HDMI was not needed/required

(i.e. my Tosh TV is DVI input, my Oppo is DVI output - the only reason I was using an HDMI adapter is my desire to use a DVI/HDMI cable with the Oppo)

I've also read that perhaps some Tosh displays are quite sensitive to DVI handshaking, but there's no real weight of proof behind that statement

m

anyway, Oppo works 100% fine with DVI-DVI cable, so I'm happy enough with that since I'm returning my Sony tomorrow

@bvader,
just a Q on your Sony 75H review - I assume you're aware of the vertical shift issue with the 70H (I certainly had to adjust VPOS on my Tosh TV to cater for it) - are you saying the shift isn't apparent on the newer model?

@bvader,
just a Q on your Sony 75H review - I assume you're aware of the vertical shift issue with the 70H (I certainly had to adjust VPOS on my Tosh TV to cater for it) - are you saying the shift isn't apparent on the newer model?

Yes that is exactly what I (and others) are reporting... I guess I need to make that clearer.

Can you be a little more specific.

General Setup - Light Control
Turn it off

Sparkles are usually all over the screen. You can notice them on black backgrounds the most. I am using the 25' Monoprice cables with their switcher and I have no problems.

Are you using monoprice's manual 2x1 HDMI switch?

I am using the new 5x1 black Monoprice switcher. It works great.

Has anyone used the 2X1 Manual HDMI Switch? I cant bring myself to spend $100+ on a enhanced 2X1 or 5X1 right now.

No. The OPPO cables are high-quality, and perfect for the job. The only reason to upgrade cables is if you need a longer cable-run.

Gary
The cables I am using are just 6' cables. So in that case do you suggest that I return the blue jeans cables. I am so used to getting bottom of the barrel cables from the manufacture that it's shocking that these are high quality cables out the box.

I got my oppo today and Im pleased. The picture quality is very good. Its not an enormously better picture like some imply, but its definitely an improvement. I didnt really notice any sync issues, but my delay was set on 5 by default. One other thing I noticed is that I see absolutely no difference when True Life and CCS are turned on than when they are turned off. Can anyone else?