View Full Version : Battlestar Galactica on SciFi HD - Season 4
archiguy 03-18-08, 09:43 AM When will reruns of season 4 start airing on UniversalHD? I don't get SciFi in HD :(
Me either, but that's no reason to not watch. :eek: I've always looked at the UHD showings as a "bonus" for second viewings a few months down the line.
And I have to give SciFi-SD credit for much improved picture quality during the last season of BSG (I don't watch anything else on that channel, probably like most of us). I'm not sure if that's the HD master being down-rezzed or what, but it's not a bad picture at all anymore, at least compared to what it was in earlier seasons. Certainly not enough to postpone watching it first-run with all our peeps. And if you're a Nielsen family, sorry, but you've just got to take this one for the team. ;)
jefbal99 03-18-08, 10:13 AM They're showing about half of the season 3 episodes today. I have Sci Fi HD, but the odd thing is that the episodes so far on SD letterboxed. I hope that future reruns and season 4 are in HD.
It has varied on SciFi HD, the reruns around Razor and after were in HD, but since the first of the year, they have been letterboxed SD.
The first runs will be in HD
sirjonsnow 03-18-08, 10:17 AM I was hoping it was only a week or two, I could wait that long to see it in HD - but if it's months, then I'll have to catch it when it first airs.
Closet Geek 03-18-08, 11:21 AM I have Sci Fi HD, but the odd thing is that the episodes so far on SD letterboxed.
WHAT?!?!?!? Dude, say it ain't so?
Bluto17 03-18-08, 11:45 AM It ain't so.
Palladin 03-18-08, 11:59 AM I was hoping it was only a week or two, I could wait that long to see it in HD - but if it's months, then I'll have to catch it when it first airs.
That's why there were BSG threads in 2 different forums. There were HD die-hards here who didn't want to know what happened until it was broadcast on UHD until months after the rest of us had seen it on Sci-fi, and discussed it there. I was in both camps. Couldn't wait, so I'd watch and discuss the SDs along with most others, but held off taping eps until they showed up on UHD .
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CPanther95 03-18-08, 12:30 PM They're showing about half of the season 3 episodes today. I have Sci Fi HD, but the odd thing is that the episodes so far on SD letterboxed. I hope that future reruns and season 4 are in HD.
Check your system settings. Episodes today are in HD on SciFi HD.
Glad to know they're showing it in HD today! However, I have noticed that sometimes SciFi HD does actually broadcast BSG in letterboxed SD. Any idea why they do that when the obviously have these episodes in HD? It's always puzzled me.
CPanther95 03-18-08, 12:49 PM Asleep at the wheel.
Rain in TX is blocking out the Satellite. Oh the pain, the pain.....
jefbal99 03-18-08, 12:57 PM Check your system settings. Episodes today are in HD on SciFi HD.
Awesome!!!
RafaelSmith 03-18-08, 12:58 PM When will reruns of season 4 start airing on UniversalHD? I don't get SciFi in HD :(
I don't get SciFi HD either :(
Its going really suck when BSG S4 airs...because watching as if watching BSG in SD isnt bad enough...on my cable system Sci Fi SD is one of the worst looking SD channels we get :(
CPanther95 03-18-08, 01:05 PM D* is the same way. SciFi SD is embarassingly bad. Watching an SD show on SciFi HD makes you want to cry at how poor we've been seeing Sci Fi over these past few years. There is a substantially greater gap in overall quality going from the SD delivered on the SD channel to SD delivered on the HD channel than there is going from SD to HD on the HD channel.
dcowboy7 03-18-08, 03:34 PM There is a substantially greater gap in overall quality going from the SD delivered on the SD channel to SD delivered on the HD channel than there is going from SD to HD on the HD channel.
i actually understood that.
archiguy 03-18-08, 03:40 PM ^^^Took me a second to puzzle it out, LOL, but again, I would disagree. I still maintain the quality of the SciFi-SD broadcast went up significantly last year. I can't be the only person to have noticed that, can I?
^^^Took me a second to puzzle it out, LOL, but again, I would disagree. I still maintain the quality of the SciFi-SD broadcast went up significantly last year. I can't be the only person to have noticed that, can I?
It looks OK on the 19 inch TV in the bedroom. :)
CPanther95 03-18-08, 07:41 PM i actually understood that.
I did when I was writing it, then not sure I did when I read it back - but figured, "what the hell", and left it as is. :)
^^^Took me a second to puzzle it out, LOL, but again, I would disagree. I still maintain the quality of the SciFi-SD broadcast went up significantly last year. I can't be the only person to have noticed that, can I?
Can't speak for TWC, my observations are regarding D*'s delivery - and based on quality post-SciFiHD addition, so if there has been an uptick in quality from SciFi, it would be factored in. Even so, it is still a subjective opinion.
rustycruiser 03-18-08, 10:01 PM For those who need a refresher. Pretty funny too.
What the Frak is Going On : http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/index.php?clip=recap
MeowMeow 03-19-08, 01:04 AM For those who need a refresher. Pretty funny too.
What the Frak is Going On : http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/index.php?clip=recap
Honestly, just watch season three episodes 11, 12, 17, 18, 19, 20 and you'll be caught up. Season three is a pretty easy trim-down when you get right down to it. Fillerzilla.
Thankfully, great cliffhangers for season three. BSG = best cliffhangers ever.
Might also want to watch the Razor movie, because it does drop in a surprising blast from the past. No idea where they aim to integrate it, but it's still interesting.
rustycruiser 03-19-08, 01:42 AM From Fredfa's HOTP thread:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13413184&postcount=16229
Caprica Prequel Greenlighted!
:D:D
humdinger70 03-19-08, 03:52 AM Set your recording units...
Cast of BSG will be delivering David Letterman's Top Ten List on Wednesday night's show!!!
archiguy 03-19-08, 07:00 AM Set your recording units...
Cast of BSG will be delivering David Letterman's Top Ten List on Wednesday night's show!!!
Huh. I would have figured they'd be doing something like that (a cast appearance to plug the show) on NBC's Leno show since SciFi is an NBC/Universal property. But any exposure on Network TV is all good!
petergaryr 03-19-08, 10:28 AM Looks like Caprica's been greenlighted (http://www.eonline.com/news/article/index.jsp?uuid=e3a5ce75-726f-4775-8c96-3b4fa989bfec&entry=index&sid=rss_topstories&utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=rss_topstories).
dcowboy7 03-19-08, 12:25 PM anyone know how many shows are in this final season ??....is it a split season too ??
CPanther95 03-19-08, 12:41 PM I'd guess 7 episodes of travel, 1 episode to invent the hover cycles, and 2 episodes on Earth. ;)
humdinger70 03-19-08, 02:22 PM anyone know how many shows are in this final season ??....is it a split season too ??
If I remember right, April will be the start of 10 episodes. Season 4.5 (the final 10 episodes) will air sometime in 2009.
I'm six episodes into the season 3 DVDs and all I can say is: OMGs.
I'll stop back in after I've seen season 4's DVDs. I want to be ignorant and, in fact, many claim me to be so. :o
Great show - great possibilities.
I just noticed Humdingers post above mine (I swore I wouldn't read this thread - :D - ) so it might be longer before I can read what others say about episodes I haven't seen.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/SP32-20080320-011302.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/SP32-20080320-011627.jpg
JamesDax 03-20-08, 07:16 AM Dang it I forgot that was on last night. I hope somebody will put it on youtube.
Pretty good list, great job by the cast. Michael Hogan's line cracked me up!
Palladin 03-20-08, 10:27 AM Dang it I forgot that was on last night. I hope somebody will put it on youtube.
Damn, me too, got busy last night and forgot all about it. Checked Youtube a little while qgo, but couldn't find anything. If someone's got it, could you throw it on there, or if you seen it on another site, provide a link? Thanks in advance.
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Chance favors the prepared mind
jwebb1970 03-20-08, 11:09 AM Huh. I would have figured they'd be doing something like that (a cast appearance to plug the show) on NBC's Leno show since SciFi is an NBC/Universal property. But any exposure on Network TV is all good!
The cast was in NYC, appearing @ the SciFi channel promotion for S4.
By the NBC/Uni connection logic, they should have been on Conan.
Perhaps some LATE SHOW writers are fans of BSG.
Concur w/ the earlier post about Michael Hogan (Col Tigh). You knew Tricia Helfer (#6) was gonna have some comment in the Top 10 related to her hotness--and wish her promise of seeing her naked this season was "real".
But to have Hogan - just as we saw him at the end of S3 - stubble, dishelved, eyepatch - utter the exact same line with typical Tigh stoicism? Great!
Just hope his promise doesn't come true!:D
jwebb1970 03-20-08, 11:12 AM I'm six episodes into the season 3 DVDs and all I can say is: OMGs.
I'll stop back in after I've seen season 4's DVDs. I want to be ignorant and, in fact, many claim me to be so. :o
Great show - great possibilities.
I just noticed Humdingers post above mine (I swore I wouldn't read this thread - :D - ) so it might be longer before I can read what others say about episodes I haven't seen.
You mean you are gonna wait for the DVDs?
hooked01 03-20-08, 11:13 AM Man. I flipped briefly to Letterman last night as he was going to commercial break and his last words were "be right back with the top 10 list..." so I flipped away!!!
http://adamczar.net/blog/2008/03/19/letterman-late-show-top-10-battlestar-galactica-video/
You mean you are gonna wait for the DVDs?
Yes. That's what we did last year after getting (severely) hooked on BSG. I find this series (and others, Veronica Mars, for instance) to be much better when viewed as a large film with no commercial interruptions.
We gave up satellite 3 years ago as we just weren't watching very much. We do have OTA HD and I like the PQ. But I still don't watch House or any other series'. House broadcast in HD looks great - House on SD DVD looks very good. The show is best when I see it w/o interruption, for me. (BTW, no cable out here in the boonies.)
It's going to be tough to avoid the spoilers but the experience of watching a high quality show like BSG in this manner is worth it.
And sitting 10 feet from a 100" screen (Optoma HD70 & Bravo D1) reveals really good PQ quality from the SD DVDs.
Enjoy. Great show!!
lordvvzz 03-20-08, 09:51 PM I have a question..
Does anyone know if Razor has already been aired in HD? If so, are there any plans to do reruns?
hooked01 03-20-08, 10:58 PM I just saw the top 10 list...I love it!!! Can't wait for the series to begin...
I have a question..
Does anyone know if Razor has already been aired in HD? If so, are there any plans to do reruns?
Yes, Razor was aired in HD on SciFi when it was originally broadcast last November. I haven't heard about any repeats planned so far.
I still have the HD version sitting on my DVR, but the aired version doesn't have the cool deleted scenes that are on the DVD. :(
Irrenarzt 03-20-08, 11:10 PM That brunette girl in the Razor movie. Now we're talkin'.
michaeltscott 03-21-08, 04:22 AM http://adamczar.net/blog/2008/03/19/letterman-late-show-top-10-battlestar-galactica-video/Thanks a lot for posting that! That was fun--I'm glad I didn't miss it.
vfxproducer 03-21-08, 12:53 PM I'd guess 7 episodes of travel, 1 episode to invent the hover cycles, and 2 episodes on Earth. ;)
INVISIBLE hover cycles!
petergaryr 03-21-08, 01:15 PM INVISIBLE hover cycles!
And Superscouts.....don't forget the Superscouts. :eek:
coffeerox 03-21-08, 02:50 PM We don't even get SciFi HD here in Phoenix. I wish we had though, it was one of the main reasons why I got a HDDVR in the first place. I just got sick of downloading the shows in HD (takes about an hour and a half for each show) although I must say the downloaded show is actually higher quality than the DVR recorded show. A lot better colors and contrast, something that filters in encoding programs can do that the DVR itself can't. I'm also watching HDTV on a 22" LCD Wide monitor so the pic on the DVR recorded shows are stretched to 16:10 but the downloaded shows are showing up in normal 16:9 w/ about 1'' black bars on the top and bottom.
JamesDax 03-21-08, 05:03 PM I'm going to write a letter to every comcast corperate email address I find. Someone is going to explain why Philadelphia got screwed out of Sci-Fi HD.
Just finished up Disc 3 and started on Disc 4 tonight...
Season 3 really was amazing...I forgot how much I fracking missed this show...
David Eick's video blogs are hilarious too
Oh wow, the video blog where Eick has been "missing" and James Callis is answering the receptionist's phone ... awesome. Callis is really funny. I hope we get to see more of that in Season 4. He really provided a lot of comic relief in the first couple seasons, but that changed in Season 3.
Something totally weird I came across... thanks to the Skiffy board. The BSG cast answers the immortal question:
Who would win in a fight - a minotaur armed with a trident or a centaur armed with a crossbow? :)
Cast answers:
http://www.ugo.com/movies/minotaur-vs-centaur/?cur=battlestar-galactica
cspradlintx72 03-27-08, 12:11 AM Forgive me if this has been asked before, I couldn't find an answer when I searched.
I have Directv, and although BG is listed as HD in the guide, it is in standard def with annoying pillar boxes. Does SciFi not broadcast reruns in HD? Or is this a problem with Directv?
Any answers are appreciated. This is driving me nuts. If the new season is not in HD I am gonna be pissed.
archiguy 03-27-08, 06:41 AM Forgive me if this has been asked before, I couldn't find an answer when I searched.
I have Directv, and although BG is listed as HD in the guide, it is in standard def with annoying pillar boxes. Does SciFi not broadcast reruns in HD? Or is this a problem with Directv?
Any answers are appreciated. This is driving me nuts. If the new season is not in HD I am gonna be pissed.
It will be in true HD on the SciFI-HD channel. Consider yourself fortunate; few have that channel yet.
sirjonsnow 03-27-08, 08:21 AM The Letterman clip is also on the official Letterman site.
Jamie Bamber and Katee Sackhoff also made appearances on last week's Best Week Ever, you can find those clips on the VH1 site.
jefbal99 03-27-08, 10:47 AM Forgive me if this has been asked before, I couldn't find an answer when I searched.
I have Directv, and although BG is listed as HD in the guide, it is in standard def with annoying pillar boxes. Does SciFi not broadcast reruns in HD? Or is this a problem with Directv?
Any answers are appreciated. This is driving me nuts. If the new season is not in HD I am gonna be pissed.
Some reruns show in HD and others don't. I've seen the same ep in HD and SD at different times. There is no rhyme or reason to this.
WilliamR 03-27-08, 01:20 PM Is it April 4 yet? Fracking HURRY UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
rdgrimes 03-27-08, 02:33 PM Will season 4 be available for streaming/download anywhere? I'm thinking of itunes, Sci-Fi, etc.
GoodSonics 03-27-08, 02:50 PM Just to confirm... DISH does not carry SciFIHD yet, correct?
Just to confirm... DISH does not carry SciFIHD yet, correct?
Will season 4 be available for streaming/download anywhere? I'm thinking of itunes, Sci-Fi, etc.
Does anyone have answers to these rather important questions?
Soon?
Anyone?
Bueller?
JamesDax 03-27-08, 03:47 PM Comcast does. But not in Philly. :(
avconsumer 03-27-08, 04:41 PM Just to confirm... DISH does not carry SciFIHD yet, correct?
Negative. Dish does NOT carry SciFiHD. They DO carry UniversalHD (which has been showing BSG reruns from Season 1 in HD recently... but no word on whether/when they will be showing this next season.
rdgrimes 03-27-08, 05:23 PM Negative. Dish does NOT carry SciFiHD. They DO carry UniversalHD (which has been showing BSG reruns from Season 1 in HD recently... but no word on whether/when they will be showing this next season.
Historically, UniHD has aired BSG in HD usually 1-2 months after it airs on SciFi. In the case of a split season, part one will air during the hiatus on SciFi and end just before part 2 starts.
I don't want to spend a load of $ just to get SciFi-SD added to my E* package, so I'm looking for legal streaming rather than waiting for UniHD. But I always wait and record the eps from UniHD.
EDIT: Looks like Amazon Unbox will be streaming for $1.89 per ep.
michaeltscott 03-27-08, 05:35 PM EDIT: Looks like Amazon Unbox will be streaming for $1.89 per ep.Technically, Amazon Unbox does not "stream"--it downloads files. Some things can play partial files after enough has been downloaded without waiting for all of it to come down.
rdgrimes 03-27-08, 05:38 PM Technically, Amazon Unbox does not "stream"--it downloads files. Some things can play partial files after enough has been downloaded without waiting for all of it to come down.
Are these some of the DRM-crippled WMP files like Netflix uses? Time to dust off the Snagit install? Does their player require any particular media player version to be installed?
dcowboy7 03-27-08, 05:47 PM there are 2 galactica half hour specials on friday starting at 10:00pm et.
michaeltscott 03-27-08, 05:50 PM Are these some of the DRM-crippled WMP files like Netflix uses? Time to dust off the Snagit install? Does their player require any particular media player version to be installed?I'm not sure--I know that Unbox does have it's own player software, but I don't know what encoding it uses. Probably WMP. I can tell you that it's SD-only and the quality varies a lot.
Netflix's "Watch Instantly" feature, on the other hand does stream and does not download files, AFAICT. Playback starts very quickly and from the start of playback you can quickly skip to the end (or any other arbitrary point) without waiting for it to download that much of the entire film. I don't think that it ever creates a file on your system containing the entire selection though it undoubtably maintain somes kind of buffer file.
rdgrimes 03-27-08, 05:59 PM I just checked, and Amazon Unbox does require WMP 10 or higher. :(
Unfortunately for us BSG fans on Dish, we are either stuck in lower res streams legally, watching in SD, or getting BSG through shadier means in better quality.
I am waiting until Friday April 4th, if no SciFi HD, I am canceling DISH and going DirecTV and queuing up some downloads that night.
We just finished season 3 on DVD. WOW! I really do mean wow. I did not know 3/4 of the finale's surprises. I was going to wait for next DVD release time to see it but I don't think I will be able to avoid all possible media references to BSG.
Fraking good.
there are 2 galactica half hour specials on friday starting at 10:00pm et.
Any spoilers in the two specials?
jdg
jefbal99 03-29-08, 11:38 AM Any spoilers in the two specials?
jdg
Just season 4 previews during commercials. Both on these specials have been on SciFi.com for awhile
archiguy 03-29-08, 11:58 AM I'll cross post this for those who haven't seen it yet. Good article, especially about how Eddie Olmos views his time on the show.
'Battlestar's' last roundup
Mixed emotions grip the stars of 'Galactica' as they enter the final season
By Geoff Boucher, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer, March 30, 2008
Vancouver, Canada — Admiral Adama arrived at the door with blood on his hands. "I'm sorry, I don't think you want me to shake," actor Edward James Olmos (http://topics.latimes.com/entertainment/people/edward-james-olmos) said, presenting his red palms. With his world-weary eyes and the stained cuffs of his military coat, he looked like some battlefield surgeon fresh from triage.
Inside his dressing-room trailer, the star of the relentlessly bleak "Battlestar Galactica" (http://topics.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/battlestar-galactica) washed his hands and apologized again. "And I can't tell you why I look like this." Olmos had just walked off the set of "Battlestar," which begins its fourth season on the Sci Fi Channel Friday night. More importantly, it's also the final season, and its creators have zealously guarded the plot twists.
"I can't even tell you whose blood it is," Olmos said with a wink, beginning to enjoy the fun. It's unusual to see Olmos smile when he's in his William Adama role: He's a sort of Churchill-in-space, trying to rally his people in the face of tremendous casualties and despair and also lead them on a quest for a fabled lost colony called Earth. Their struggle, for better or worse, is almost over. There are only 20 more episodes to sort out who will live, who will die and who will be outed as sleeper agents of the Cylons, the synthetic race that was created by humans and now aspires to push them out of existence.
Under slate-gray Canadian skies late last year, the cast of one of the most admired (and, according to the cruel math of ratings, one of the most undervalued) shows on television seemed to be mentally exhausted, anxious and sad. That's understandable given the show's looming end. They've lived through the annihilation of humanity for five years, but that doesn't make it any easier to say goodbye.
"It is difficult to move on, but it is the correct time, the natural pace of the story -- there's the beginning, the middle, and now it's time for the end," Olmos said. "We have hit so many notes, and now it's time to tie everything up."
Olmos has the wounded stare, craggy features and broad shoulders that look most comfortable in a posture of grief -- he has the ideal profile for "Battlestar," which presents a human civilization reduced to under 50,000 souls and a fleet of spaceships on the run. The lead ship is the Galactica, which like its leader Adama, has been un-retired in desperation after a sneak attack by the Cylons. That's the story arc, but the show's great distinctions are its wonderfully flawed characters and the religious, social and political questions that float by as they swim in the show's dire straits. Early on, series executive producer Ronald D. Moore wrote a mission statement for the planned "Galactica" series that pledged to break the standard sci-fi space-opera model and strive for a near-documentary texture, a sophisticated ambiguity to the stories and plenty of complications that the audience would recognize from the real world. Think you have unshakable opinions on the nature of suicide bombers, terrorism and torture? Try watching them tested in an alien atmosphere.
"The show is a dark mirror," Olmos said. "So, so dark. I was talking to one of the executives on the show recently and this person told me that they would never do something like this again, this kind of material. I have been doing this a long time, working in television, film, the theater, and this is the best material I've ever worked on in my life."
Others agree. It won a 2005 Peabody Award, the same year Time magazine named it the best show on television. It's picked up an Emmy, a Hugo and a shelf full of Saturn Awards as well. But it is also a very expensive series to mount, and as Jamie Bamber, who portrays Lee "Apollo" Adama, the son of the Galactica's leader, points out: "People who watch it say they love it. People who don't watch it say they've heard great things and they should watch it. The show is a success, but not as big a hit as people think, not in the commercial sense."
Many of the younger cast members such as Bamber and Tahmoh Penikett, who portrays Karl "Helo" Agathon, seem ready to shed their Galactica flight suits, pack up the industry credibility earned by their work on "Battlestar" and use it in places where they will be seen more.
"The end is in sight, for better or worse," said the London-born Bamber. "Every time I come to Vancouver now there will be a sort of Proustian element and a Pavlovian response. I'll think of my children being very young here, this stage and set, coming to North America, the sights and sounds. It will all be 'Battlestar.' "
Penikett was less sentimental: "There is a lot of television out there, and a lot of it is bad, but still it feels like time to head toward the horizon."
Olmos knows that feeling; he was a scene-stealing supporting character in the 1980s on "Miami Vice," and he's familiar with the stirring sensation that it's time to seek the next role, the next big show. But he said the stars, producers and writers may find that they miss "Battlestar" even more later. "The people involved don't know how special it is," he said. "In 20 years, I think they will look back and realize what it was."
The secret society
As a journalist, it's odd to visit a television show in production where a publicist literally jumps up to cover your eyes with her hand whenever you go near the set. "Sorry! You can't look in here! Here, come this way . . . be careful, don't trip." The blindfold treatment is understandable: "Battlestar" fans include a zealous sect of sci-fi devotees who spend hours and hours analyzing every nuance and will send any spoiler or rumor pinging across the globe.
"The fans take it very seriously, which is nice," Penikett said. "A lot of the hard-core fans, I have to say, don't get out too much. And they're lacking certain social graces."
It was in deference to sci-fi genre fans that the show has the "Battlestar" moniker, which gave it instant name recognition with the crowd that dresses up like wookies or wear Spock ears at conventions. The first series called "Battlestar Galactica" was a show by Glen A. Larson, who had a career habit of creating successful but fairly derivative shows. His "B.J. and the Bear" was a lot like "Every Which Way But Loose," for instance, while "Alias Smith and Jones" was slagged as a rip-off of " Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid," and "The Fall Guy" reminded everyone of "Hooper." His "Galactica" premiered in 1978, a year after "Star Wars" created a cultural sensation, and it's mainly remembered in the popular mind for featuring Lorne Greene, a fuzzy robot dog and slow, shiny Cylons who appeared to be playing Pong with their red-dot eyes. With that legacy, Olmos didn't exactly jump at the pitch to revive the franchise.
"To me, it was 'Star Trek' and 'Star Wars,' so it was a knockoff of a knockoff. And so this new idea was going to be a remake of a knockoff of a knockoff? But then I read the script. This was in 2003, and it was completely informed by 9/11."
The modern show is to the original as "Lost" is to "Gilligan's Island." It has a dense web of a story and a huge cast of characters that make it a challenge for anyone late to the game. Another cast member, Tricia Helfer, who plays Cylon No. Six, describes "Battlestar" like an English Lit major who is worried about the final.
"I feel like I need to study more when I talk to the fans, the questions and comments they have. This show is on the pulse of what is going on in our society. It's not for couch potatoes flipping through the channels. If you're not engaged, you get lost."
That's hardly a commercial to win the show a last-season surge of new viewers, but "Battlestar" isn't about to turn superficial. It also has some of the most interesting female characters on television, chief among them Mary McDonnell as President Laura Roslin, a character who has dealt with a terminal cancer diagnosis, religious visions, an intense showdown with Adama and the difficult decision to go against her principles and outlaw abortion -- a decision made because of the statistics that show the human race is dying faster than it is propagating. "The show has never shied away from the most wrenching issues," McDonnell said. "In fact, that's what the show is all about."
For this final season, the cast and crew filmed most of it before the writers strike and then sat and fretted that the labor dispute might sabotage the fragile plan to wrap up the show in 20 episodes. It's still not clear how the delayed production will affect the airdates of the final season -- the completed first 10 will air during this run. ("There was a moment where I thought we might not be able to finish the story at all," Olmos said in Los Angeles a few weeks ago. "That was a frightening thought. To leave all this unfinished would just be awful." He also said that the notion of a "Battlestar" film wasn't an option. "Glen Larson has the rights. If they make a 'Battlestar' film at some point, it won't be these actors and this story, I know that.")
The cast and crew assembled in Canada last week to shoot their last hurrah. Bamber said it's clear from the first half of the season that there will be far more running than reflection in this final act.
"There are no lulls anymore," Bamber said on the Vancouver set last year. "In previous years, there had been sequences where you could kind of sense that we were in an eddy at the side of the stream and we were just exploring an angle of the fleet that we just had not considered yet. There's no available time for anything like that now."
There's something going on in pop culture right now with apocalyptic entertainments about the human race. "I Am Legend," "Children of Men," "28 Days Later" and "Doomsday" have all handled the end-times with degrees of grace and horror, and novelist Cormac McCarthy's "The Road" reaches the screen this year. And "Battlestar" now has a finish line.
"If anything, I think the show was a little too early," Olmos said. "But I also don't think it could be made again. The political topics have just been too touchy. This is the world we live in, though. We're an inch away from the edge. We feel it. We want to think about it and talk about it and watch it."
Genre fans, of course, want to talk about it more than anyone else, and "Battlestar" is one of their most beloved topics. Entire conventions are devoted to the show and its heavy religious themes and heartthrob stars. The fan attention can become a bit much. Grace Park, who plays a collective of Cylon characters (Sharon/Boomer/Athena), said she recently got "a box big enough to fit a golden retriever in" that was packed with intricately assembled scrapbooks. "This fan had clearly spent hours and hours putting this together, and every page was about me, all the places where my name has popped up in a story or on the Internet. This story will be in the next one, I'm sure of it. It's very nice, but it's also a little . . . much."
A 'Trek' not taken
Olmos could have been sitting on the bridge of a different spaceship. "When they remade 'Star Trek' in the 1980s they called me about the lead," Olmos said, referring to the Enterprise command that went to Patrick Stewart. "I wasn't interested. Science fiction wasn't really where I wanted to be, not since 'Blade Runner.' "
Olmos was a key player in Ridley Scott's hugely influential 1982 film that inspired the modern, bleak branch of cinematic sci-fi with its core fascination with the slippery nature of identity and with noble machines that become more human than their compromised human creators. When he read the new "Battlestar," he saw that pessimistic science fiction.
" 'Blade Runner' was the mothership for all of this, several generations of science fiction films, but nothing has jumped on that world as much as this show," Olmos said.
"I think good science fiction is not optimistic," Bamber said. "You think of George Orwell or Aldous Huxley and H.G. Wells, and they are pretty bleak. . . . The show is also not simple. We don't have heroes because we examine everyone too closely."
Helfer said she has been deeply struck by the close examination of Saul Tigh (the character played by Michael Hogan), the gruff executive officer of the Galactica, who has grappled with alcoholism and, over the course of the show, has seen his life fall apart in the struggle with the Cylons. He led a resistance effort in the colony of New Caprica, approved the use of suicide bombers against the enemy, was jailed and tortured as a terrorist (his right eye was ripped out during one session) and also reluctantly poisoned his own wife after she was revealed to have given information to the Cylons (which she did only to save his life).
"The nature of what has happened to him, the complexity of it and the emotional pain of it all, I think that says a lot about this show," Helfer said. There was shock among fans and the cast when Tigh was revealed to be one of the 12 Cylon agents in the midst of the human refugees. "Some of the actors aren't happy when they find out they are Cylon, believe me," McDonnell said. "It's turned out great for them, but I can understand it."
The cast is, of course, as eager as anyone to see how it will all end. "It's all we think about, really," Park said, "but I stopped believing the writers a while ago. The secrecy is so intense, and things change anyway."
Bamber said he and his fellow actors have played out in their minds the different possible finales -- a bang? a whimper? -- and there was quite a bit of discussion last summer about the ambiguous cut-to-black ending of "The Sopranos."
"I know Ron Moore said he really enjoyed that ending, but he's not going to go out that way here, not with 'Battlestar,' " Bamber said. "This is an epic show. This is more like 'The Iliad'; there are elements of epic poetry, Greek mythology, certainly, and the Bible. The issues are deep, and the stakes are high. You can't just serve onion rings at the end."
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-ca-battlestar30mar30,0,6982905,print.story
Great article. Thanks Archiguy! :)
MOREPOWER 03-29-08, 03:25 PM I like onion rings, just hope I like the ending or live long enough to see it...
Dragging this out like this, is one reason I never watch miniseries.
JamesDax 03-29-08, 04:47 PM I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to start watching on the 4th or wait until it airs on UHD. Philadelphia will not be getting Sci-Fi HD from Comcast in the near future. Of course every other Comcast area around Philly has it but I guess Philly is to small a region to get it.
David F 03-29-08, 04:48 PM [Olmos] also said that the notion of a "Battlestar" film wasn't an option. "Glen Larson has the rights. If they make a 'Battlestar' film at some point, it won't be these actors and this story, I know that."
Really? I didn't know that at all. Interesting.
Thanks for the article. Great read!
afiggatt 03-29-08, 07:29 PM I don't know if this was announced, but the two preview shows that aired on Sci-Fi last night are airing on Universal HD right now at 7 and 7:30 PM ET. They will be repeated at 4 and 4:30 AM ET and if the on-line schedule is correct, again on Monday. What I find amazing is that UnivHD is showing The Phenomenon program with closed captions! UnivHD has never shown BSG with CC as far as I can recall.
michaeltscott 03-29-08, 08:45 PM I don't know if this was announced, but the two preview shows that aired on Sci-Fi last night are airing on Universal HD right now at 7 and 7:30 PM ET. They will be repeated at 4 and 4:30 AM ET and if the on-line schedule is correct, again on Monday. What I find amazing is that UnivHD is showing The Phenomenon program with closed captions! UnivHD has never shown BSG with CC as far as I can recall.I was about to get all upset because I'd missed these (though they are, no doubt, miss-able pieces of fluff :)), but I see in the TiVo guide that they're scheduled to be shown 11 more times this week, across the NBC/Universal cable networks on USA, UHD, SciFi and Bravo. They'll be shown 6 more times on UHD alone.
rodimus79 03-29-08, 08:50 PM Are those Amazon Unbox episodes in HD? I'd pay to watch it in HD on Amazon or Xbox Live if I could, although I suppose I can deal with SD for now. Stupid Cablevision.
Palladin 03-29-08, 10:10 PM "We don't have heroes because we examine everyone too closely."
That one line from the article really exemplifies the kind of thinking that has suceeded in setting this series apart from the crowd. The final 20 haven't even begun to air yet, and I'm already starting to miss this show.
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michaeltscott 03-29-08, 11:05 PM Are those Amazon Unbox episodes in HD? I'd pay to watch it in HD on Amazon or Xbox Live if I could, although I suppose I can deal with SD for now. Stupid Cablevision.There's no high definition on Amazon Unbox as yet.
rdgrimes 03-29-08, 11:28 PM Are those Amazon Unbox episodes in HD? I'd pay to watch it in HD on Amazon or Xbox Live if I could, although I suppose I can deal with SD for now. Stupid Cablevision.
With a little luck, maybe 16:9 at 360 res with really crappy audio. Beats nothing, but not by much.
With a little luck, maybe 16:9 at 360 res with really crappy audio. Beats nothing, but not by much.
That describes it fairly well, I'd say. But the sound isn't bad. It is 16x9 and will play in WMP11. I came late to the BSG party, after season 3 aired but before it was on DVD so I bought the season on Unbox.
Edit: I just checked one of the files, it's 720x408.
CPanther95 03-30-08, 07:35 AM Katee fans need to pick up a copy of the April 4th issue of Entertainment Weekly (Speed Racer on cover). Wow!
rdgrimes 03-30-08, 09:15 AM That describes it fairly well, I'd say. But the sound isn't bad. It is 16x9 and will play in WMP11. I came late to the BSG party, after season 3 aired but before it was on DVD so I bought the season on Unbox.
Edit: I just checked one of the files, it's 720x408.
That's better than it will be on SciFi SD, not bad.
michaeltscott 03-30-08, 11:12 AM I was about to get all upset because I'd missed these (though they are, no doubt, miss-able pieces of fluff :)), but I see in the TiVo guide that they're scheduled to be shown 11 more times this week, across the NBC/Universal cable networks on USA, UHD, SciFi and Bravo. They'll be shown 6 more times on UHD alone.Well, TiVo's guide was wrong about airings of the pair of specials at 1:30 this morning--I got the last and first halves of two episodes of Jericho. I set up to record some airings that are supposed to happen tomorrow.
Someone in my local San Diego HDTV forum thought that he saw an announcement of when Season 4 would start airing on UHD at the end of BSG: The Phenomenon. Anyone else watch on UHD and see that?
Thanks for the heads up Michael, I set them up in my 8300 (Cox) for 200a/230a but got Jericho as well. Monday morning 1030a/1100a is the next I could find on UHD.
TheWinstonWolf 03-30-08, 10:23 PM It's not too far off now...
For any of you in NY or LA, friend of mine clued me into a promotion they are running...if you've seen some strange looking BSG posters that look like a milk carton missing ad...its a clue to get a free pizza..Wish I was back in NY to check it out...tthis site has more details:
http://acedmagazine.com/content/view/1095/
WilliamR 03-31-08, 08:37 AM Katee fans need to pick up a copy of the April 4th issue of Entertainment Weekly (Speed Racer on cover). Wow!
Yeah, I read that this weekend. Wow, oh WOW!!!!!!!
Just finished Season 3 last night (2nd time through watching it)...
Bring Season 4 on! I'm ready!
rodimus79 03-31-08, 09:47 AM Cool. Thanks for the update. Maybe I'll just stick with SD for now, until Universal HD gets around to airing repeats.
That describes it fairly well, I'd say. But the sound isn't bad. It is 16x9 and will play in WMP11. I came late to the BSG party, after season 3 aired but before it was on DVD so I bought the season on Unbox.
Edit: I just checked one of the files, it's 720x408.
MeowMeow 03-31-08, 10:30 AM Penikett was less sentimental: "There is a lot of television out there, and a lot of it is bad, but still it feels like time to head toward the horizon."
That's easy for Helo to say. He's already got work coming in.
CPanther95 03-31-08, 10:47 AM Not sure if this was posted already, but Helo (Tahmoh Penikett) was just cast as an FBI agent in Joss Whedon's new show Dollhouse as the "romantic foil" for Eliza Dushku.
CPanther95 03-31-08, 10:51 AM Here's a video interview with Katee from the photo shoot at EW. Could be spoilers (doubt it), but I watched it without sound so I'm not sure.
http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/03/battlestar-gala.html
Not sure if this was posted already, but Helo (Tahmoh Penikett) was just cast as an FBI agent in Joss Whedon's new show Dollhouse as the "romantic foil" for Eliza Dushku.
After watching BSG: The Phenomenon I get the feeling that Joss Whedon would hire the entire BSG cast if he could.
lokilarry 03-31-08, 03:25 PM Here's a video interview with Katee from the photo shoot at EW. Could be spoilers (doubt it), but I watched it without sound so I'm not sure.
http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/03/battlestar-gala.html
Starbuck is looking mighty buff. I guess Katee had plenty of time to work out during their filming hiatus.
Palladin 03-31-08, 05:02 PM Starbuck is looking mighty buff. I guess Katee had plenty of time to work out during their filming hiatus.
Well hell, Starbuck's a survivor. Probably figures it will help her blend in better with the hot cylon chick team if she downloads herself into the a newer buff casing.
As a big Katee fan, I have a question. Based on the recent pix, did Starbuck always have a rack, but kept it under wraps (which means they really must have trussed her up in certain scenes, like the boxing match) or has she recently become the recipient of some siliclon? ;)
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archiguy 03-31-08, 05:13 PM Well hell, Starbuck's a survivor. Probably figures it will help her blend in better with the hot cylon chick team if she downloads herself into the a newer buff casing.
What, are you trying to imply Starbuck is the 5th sleeper Cylon? I wouldn't bet the farm on that. ;)
As a big Katee fan, I have a question. Based on the recent pix, did Starbuck always have a rack, but kept it under wraps (which means they really must have trussed her up in certain scenes, like the boxing match) or has she recently become the recipient of some siliclon? ;)
No, that's just her natural superstructure, no implants. She's probably a solid "C". And she may well have buffed up a bit for her role on the now diseased 'Bionic Woman'.
Palladin 03-31-08, 05:47 PM What, are you trying to imply Starbuck is the 5th sleeper Cylon? I wouldn't bet the farm on that. ;)
No, I don't think Starbuck is the 5th sleeper for the simple reason that they've gone to such great lengths to make us think she might be, Eye of Jupiter and all that sort of stuff. My bet is that she'll be something other than a cylon sleeper.
No, that's just her natural superstructure, no implants. She's probably a solid "C". And she may well have buffed up a bit for her role on the now diseased 'Bionic Woman'.
C"mon now. You know I love Katee every bit as much as you do, but after 3 seasons of eps and re-runs, I have seen no evidence on this show that she has a rack, let alone a "C' rack, unless they've been binding her in preparation to play the male lead in some Shakespearean play across the water with Bamber.:rolleyes:
IIRC, you gave Elizabeth Mitchell a size C as well, and there we have no argument, as her cup runneth over. But if Kaytee has some real cleavage and they somehow have been hiding it these past 3 years, then its even easier to understand why they have the largest vfx budget on television. ;)
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michaeltscott 03-31-08, 06:38 PM You can see a large format image (1995x3000) of Katee's assets in an episode from Season 1 of BSG ("Colonial Day") standing in a bar in a clingy, diaphanous evening gown that leaves little to the imagination, here (http://katee-sackhoff.org/gallery/albums/BSG%20-%20Season%201/1x11%20-%20Colonial%20Day/010.jpg). Her endowment seems pretty decent in that image, and its nothing recent--the episode first aired on 18 March 2005 :D.
I think that they dress her to de-emphasize the feminine aspects of her form on purpose. On the show, you mostly see her in flight-suits and other uniforms. The sexiest thing that she ever wears is a gray tee-shirt with a black athletic tee on top of it.
archiguy 03-31-08, 06:41 PM IIRC, you gave Elizabeth Mitchell a size C as well, and there we have no argument, as her cup runneth over. But if Kaytee has some real cleavage and they somehow have been hiding it these past 3 years, then its even easier to understand why they have the largest vfx budget on television. ;)
It's always been there, hidden away beneath a flight suit or sports bra. You catch little glimpses here and there, now and then. But she's not what you would called stacked, no. ;)
In checking the UHD schedule, BSG season 2 is not listed for the month of April. I was in the process of recording all the eps in sequence. Very disapointing.
Palladin 03-31-08, 07:52 PM You can see a large format image (1995x3000) of Katee's assets in an episode from Season 1 of BSG ("Colonial Day") standing in a bar in a clingy, diaphanous evening gown that leaves little to the imagination, here (http://katee-sackhoff.org/gallery/albums/BSG%20-%20Season%201/1x11%20-%20Colonial%20Day/010.jpg). Her endowment seems pretty decent in that image, and its nothing recent--the episode first aired on 18 March 2005 :D
Well see, there's the problem! Its been 3 damn years since we've seen her in anything vaguely feminine. We get plenty of clingy tight dresses on Six, Boomer's a knock-out in clothes or out (thank you Maxim :D ), and Kaytee generally gets what? Tee-shirts, sports bras (usually on top of something else), and flight suits.
Seeing what a loyal audience we have been over the past 3 years, I request, nay I frakkin' DEMAND, at least one topless shot of Starbuck, so that we fans may come to a reasonable resolution on this issue. So say we all!.
I think that they dress her to de-emphasize the feminine aspects of her form on purpose.
Yes, and that was fine to initially establish her character. But once she slugged Saul and dumped Adama, her character was fully in place, and the time for some skin had arrived. ;)
It's always been there, hidden away beneath a flight suit or sports bra. You catch little glimpses here and there, now and then. But she's not what you would called stacked, no. ;)
Based on that one shot in the dress, she certainly has 'charms', but no better than a 'B'. I think those sports-bras are compressing what she has beyond what the Lord intended. :p
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Sheesh, here we are talking about bra sizes, this show can't start soon enough. :p
I think that they dress her to de-emphasize the feminine aspects of her form on purpose.
Kind of the opposite of Seven of Nine. ;)
Palladin 03-31-08, 08:39 PM Sheesh, here we are talking about bra sizes, this show can't start soon enough. :p
Hey, its been a whole frakkin' year since we had a real BSG fix (I don't count Razer), and we're jonesin' with anticipation. So it was either hot chicks or spoilers. Which would you have preferred? :p
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JamesDax 03-31-08, 09:03 PM Too bad we won't be watching katee in HD here in Philly.
michaeltscott 03-31-08, 09:22 PM Kind of the opposite of Seven of Nine. ;)Exactly. Voyager's Seven of Nine and Enterprise's T'Pol were both ostensibly cold, emotionless characters that they dressed in skin-tight cat-suits to emphasize their physical feminity, thereby making them seem more human; Starbuck, a passionate hellion, is dressed in shapeless sacks to avoid the suggestion that her highly emotional nature is due to her being a woman. (Or so say I with my dimestore psychology :)).
A very positive review of the season premiere here:
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/TV-Review-Battlestar-Galactica-Season-Four-Premiere-9689.html
For those worried about spoilers, they claim to not give any, but I didn't read anything but the first and last paragraphs out of fear. I've made it this far.... LOL They give the episode 4 1/2 out of 5 stars.
Well, TiVo's guide was wrong about airings of the pair of specials at 1:30 this morning--I got the last and first halves of two episodes of Jericho. I set up to record some airings that are supposed to happen tomorrow.
Someone in my local San Diego HDTV forum thought that he saw an announcement of when Season 4 would start airing on UHD at the end of BSG: The Phenomenon. Anyone else watch on UHD and see that?
The only add that I saw for Season 4 was for it showing on SciFi. The SciFi tag was at the bottom of the screen. I doubt UHD will get this season until its done on SciFi :(.
Starbuck, a passionate hellion, is dressed in shapeless sacks to avoid the suggestion that her highly emotional nature is due to her being a woman.
...or, they dress her that way because she's a military pilot and it's how all the other military pilots dress. IMHO she's a hottie no matter what she's wearing.
Sheesh, here we are talking about bra sizes, this show can't start soon enough. :p
What did Tahmoh Penikett say? "A lot of the hard-core fans, I have to say, don't get out too much. And they're lacking certain social graces." I can't imagine what he was talking about. :)
aaronwt 04-01-08, 12:28 PM In checking the UHD schedule, BSG season 2 is not listed for the month of April. I was in the process of recording all the eps in sequence. Very disapointing.
They are running all the BSG shows on Sci-Fi this week. I'm not sure how many will be in HD though.. the first 10 that I receorded yesterday weren't in HD, but I already have the Season 1 HD DVD set anyway. Hopefully Season 2 and 3 will be in HD. They are running them in order throughout the week, up to the premiere of Season 4 on Friday.
I got hooked up with Sci-Fi HD just in time this past weekend.
Steve Scherrer 04-01-08, 12:30 PM A very positive review of the season premiere here:
http://www.cinemablend.com/television/TV-Review-Battlestar-Galactica-Season-Four-Premiere-9689.html
For those worried about spoilers, they claim to not give any, but I didn't read anything but the first and last paragraphs out of fear. I've made it this far.... LOL They give the episode 4 1/2 out of 5 stars.
I read the whole thing - there are some spoilers in there, I think. And he gives it 4 1/2 stars, but has NOTHING bad to say about it - only positive. There is no reason given why it is 4 1/2 and not 5.
michaeltscott 04-01-08, 12:35 PM The only add that I saw for Season 4 was for it showing on SciFi. The SciFi tag was at the bottom of the screen. I doubt UHD will get this season until its done on SciFi :(.Yeah--we discussed it further and it seems that he saw "the 12th is coming" flash on the screen during the ads for the 4th season launch on Sci Fi and thought that season 4 might premiere on UHD on the 12th of some month soon. I told him that I thought that it was a reference to the coming revelation of Cylon model #12 and he agreed.
michaeltscott 04-01-08, 12:37 PM ...or, they dress her that way because she's a military pilot and it's how all the other military pilots dress. IMHO she's a hottie no matter what she's wearing.True. I did call it "dimestore psychology", did I not? :D
True. I did call it "dimestore psychology", did I not? :D
Yup, you did.
Palladin 04-01-08, 03:15 PM What did Tahmoh Penikett say? "A lot of the hard-core fans, I have to say, don't get out too much. And they're lacking certain social graces." I can't imagine what he was talking about. :)
Well geez....Mary, if we knew that any discussion of female anatomy was going to upset your delicate sensibilities that much, we wouldn't have brought it up in the first place. :rolleyes: Now go take your tonic, and relax in that rocking chair over at the corner of the parlor, and we'll try not to disturb your fragile sense of proprieities any further, dear. :p
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I am watching the season 3 DVD's and wondered if a discussion was ever started here about Starbuck's tattoos. I noticed them earlier in the season, but couldn't recall when they appeared. In Unfinished Business, she has them in the boxing scenes but not in the flashbacks to New Caprica.
I have some time to rewatch part of seasons 2 and 3 on DVD over the next couple of days. What would you say are the key episodes from those 2 seasons to review? I saw season 1 last month.
I am watching the season 3 DVD's and wondered if a discussion was ever started here about Starbuck's tattoos. I noticed them earlier in the season, but couldn't recall when they appeared. In Unfinished Business, she has them in the boxing scenes but not in the flashbacks to New Caprica.
Starbuck and Anders have the same tattoo; they got it to symbolize their marriage or love or something. :)
So, she probably got the tattoo on New Caprica some time after the wedding. I can't remember now if the tattoo was there in early Season 3 when she was locked up with Leoben.
I have some time to rewatch part of seasons 2 and 3 on DVD over the next couple of days. What would you say are the key episodes from those 2 seasons to review? I saw season 1 last month.
It's probably easier to name the episodes you can skip.
Season 2.0/2.5 Skip-ables:
Final Cut
Flight of the Phoenix
Black Market
Scar
Sacrifice
Season 3 Skip-ables:
Hero
The Woman King
A Day in the Life
Dirty Hands
aaronwt 04-02-08, 10:15 AM :eek::eek:It's probably easier to name the episodes you can skip.
Season 2.0/2.5 Skip-ables:
Final Cut
Flight of the Phoenix
Black Market
Scar
Sacrifice
Season 3 Skip-ables:
Hero
The Woman King
A Day in the Life
Dirty Hands
:eek::eek::eek:
Blasphemy!!
No episodes are skip-able:D
Palladin 04-02-08, 10:33 AM :eek::eek:
:eek::eek::eek:
Blasphemy!!
No episodes are skip-able:D
If only that were true. :( Of course an argument might be made that the 'filler' eps of BSG are still probably better than the 'best' eps of most other shows. And while I agree with most of Loco's list of the more important eps in the continuing saga, if you've got the time for an extra ep, I'd throw in 'Scar'. Good character analysis of Starbuck and Kat.
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So as BSG-Day approaches I am agonizing...
I have FiOS and we do not have SciFi HD (other than that I like FiOS alot). The last seasons I went into a cocoon, avoided this thread like the plague just and waited to watch in HD on Universal HD. But I don't think I can hold out this time, especially since it seems like there is not official UiHD Date (?) not with the finally from last season and its been soooo long...I am weakening....
SD here I come aaaagaggggghhhhhhhh
"All Along the Watchtower" reverberates through his head
michaeltscott 04-02-08, 11:07 AM I would definitely not skip "Scar"; it doesn't advance the main saga much but it's extremely well written and it examines some very interesting implications of Cylon ressurection. If I were watching the series over again, I would probably skip "Hero" and "Dirty Hands"; I didn't much enjoy either of those.
If only that were true. :( Of course an argument might be made that the 'filler' eps of BSG are still probably better than the 'best' eps of most other shows. And while I agree with most of Loco's list of the more important eps in the continuing saga, if you've got the time for an extra ep, I'd throw in 'Scar'. Good character analysis of Starbuck and Kat.
I agree. I really like Scar and Flight of the Phoenix. They are two of the better stand-alone episodes, I think.
Sorry for the blaspheming, aaronwt! :p
archiguy 04-02-08, 11:09 AM So as BSG-Day approaches I am agonizing...
I have FiOS and we do not have SciFi HD (other than that I like FiOS alot). The last seasons I went into a cocoon, avoided this thread like the plague just and waited to watch in HD on Universal HD. But I don't think I can hold out this time, especially since it seems like there is not official UiHD Date (?) not with the finally from last season and its been soooo long...I am weakening....
It's not so bad. SciFi-SD picture quality, at least for this show, is much improved over the last year. That's what I'll be forced to do (my provider is the HD-challenged TWC); will catch the HD broadcasts on UHD for the second viewings.
jefbal99 04-02-08, 11:10 AM So as BSG-Day approaches I am agonizing...
I have FiOS and we do not have SciFi HD (other than that I like FiOS alot). The last seasons I went into a cocoon, avoided this thread like the plague just and waited to watch in HD on Universal HD. But I don't think I can hold out this time, especially since it seems like there is not official UiHD Date (?) not with the finally from last season and its been soooo long...I am weakening....
SD here I come aaaagaggggghhhhhhhh
"All Along the Watchtower" reverberates through his head
If you can make it to Michigan, I'm sure that some arrangement can be made to view the season premier in HD at my house. Maybe a 6 pack of Bell's (http://www.bellsbeer.com/index.php/home) would do the trick.
michaeltscott 04-02-08, 11:13 AM Lansing is a pretty big hike from Huntington Beach :). If he went to that extreme, I for one would be impressed with his fandom and dedication to high-def.
Palladin 04-02-08, 11:16 AM It's not so bad. SciFi-SD picture quality, at least for this show, is much improved over the last year. That's what I'll be forced to do (my provider is the HD-challenged TWC); will catch the HD broadcasts on UHD for the second viewings.
That's what the vast majority of us were forced to do for the past 3 years, so while I'm not crazy about it, I'm pretty much acclimated. Watch the ep first on Sci-fi SD, then re-watch and DVR the UHD version.
BTW, I think someone recently commented about whether there was CC on the UHD version. I went back and checked mine, and confirmed there was not.
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If you can make it to Michigan, I'm sure that some arrangement can be made to view the season premier in HD at my house. Maybe a 6 pack of Bell's (http://www.bellsbeer.com/index.php/home) would do the trick.
Thank you really for such a cool/kind offer, and if I could make it I certainly would not come empty handed!
Lansing is a pretty big hike from Huntington Beach :). If he went to that extreme, I for one would be impressed with his fandom and dedication to high-def.
I'm glad someone appreciates it. My wife is getting tired of me moaning about it ;)
jefbal99 04-02-08, 11:36 AM Thank you really for such a cool/kind offer, and if I could make it I certainly would not come empty handed!
I've got a buddy that is driving an hour to watch the premier in HD, however that is a bit different from the left coast
rdgrimes 04-02-08, 11:44 AM Starbuck and Anders have the same tattoo; they got it to symbolize their marriage or love or something. :)
So, she probably got the tattoo on New Caprica some time after the wedding. I can't remember now if the tattoo was there in early Season 3 when she was locked up with Leoben.
Actually, they each have 1/2 of a single image, so that when they embrace, and their arms are together, it looks like one tatoo.
I've got a buddy that is driving an hour to watch the premier in HD, however that is a bit different from the left coast
We have some good things out here on the Left Coast but damn at certain times of the day, an hours drive might net me 12 miles :eek:
Thanks for the offer and Enjoy!
jefbal99 04-02-08, 12:00 PM We have some good things out here on the Left Coast but damn at certain times of the day, an hours drive might net me 12 miles :eek:
Thanks for the offer and Enjoy!
Yeah, i've visied that direction and love it, but only in short bursts :)
SD here I come aaaagaggggghhhhhhhh
I'm right behind you. Season three left about thirty questions hanging and Comcast won't get around to ruining the other HD channels to fit Sci-Fi HD in until May so I'll be watching the first four episodes in 400 lines of letterboxed SD. I may even bypass the cable box since the digital simulcasts of the analog channels look especially overcompressed.
mrvideo 04-02-08, 02:39 PM ... so I'll be watching the first four episodes in 400 lines of letterboxed SD.
It is worse, as it is only 360 active lines. On top of that, literally, is all of the Sci-Fi channel's screen clutter. But, that goes for SD and well as HD. I'm hoping to see a clutter-free version.
michaeltscott 04-02-08, 03:20 PM Argh! I just saw an announcement that my local Cox cable provider is adding Sci Fi HD on Friday, just in time for the BSG premiere. (Sci Fi HD is an east-coast-feed simulcast, so BSG will premiere on Sci Fi HD at 7:00 PM locally). Of course, I just moved out of a Cox neighborhood two months ago, into TWC territory. My housemate couldn't afford to keep her house and had put it up for sale; she moved out a couple of months before I did. I could have put the move off for a while longer (the house still hasn't sold) and had I known that Cox was going to do this, I might have.
rustycruiser 04-02-08, 03:30 PM At first I was quite chuffed that SciFi was showing all three seasons of BSG in marathons this week. That is until I saw that they were all being shown in letterboxed SD on the HD channel. Deleted all my scheduled recordings. Why would you not show it in HD?
:rolleyes:
archiguy 04-02-08, 03:30 PM Argh! I just saw an announcement that my local Cox cable provider is adding Sci Fi HD on Friday, just in time for the BSG premiere. (Sci Fi HD is an east-coast-feed simulcast, so BSG will premiere on Sci Fi HD at 7:00 PM locally). Of course, I just moved out of a Cox neighborhood two months ago, into TWC territory. My housemate couldn't afford to keep her house and had put it up for sale; she moved out a couple of months before I did. I could have put the move off for a while longer (the house still hasn't sold) and had I known that Cox was going to do this, I might have.
Picking where to live based on whether you can see BSG is HD or not. Now, that is a serious fan. I salute you, sir! :D
It is worse, as it is only 360 active lines.
But with my >10% overscan.... that makes 400! :D
(Yes, I'm joking!)
Palladin 04-02-08, 03:40 PM Argh! I just saw an announcement that my local Cox cable provider is adding Sci Fi HD on Friday, just in time for the BSG premiere. (Sci Fi HD is an east-coast-feed simulcast, so BSG will premiere on Sci Fi HD at 7:00 PM locally). Of course, I just moved out of a Cox neighborhood two months ago, into TWC territory. My housemate couldn't afford to keep her house and had put it up for sale; she moved out a couple of months before I did. I could have put the move off for a while longer (the house still hasn't sold) and had I known that Cox was going to do this, I might have.
Your only real problem is not thinking outside the box. The house is empty, right? No one's using it, right? Cut a deal with your old housemate (man, terms like "housemate" just remind me how old I really am ;) ), that you'll pay for the hook-up with Cox and the minimal cost of electricity, and the quid pro quo will be that she allows you to occupy the house every Friday night, which will increase the sellability of the home, as the lights will turn on when inspected, and it will have that 'lived-in' feel that buyers find so appealing. ;)
To make it an even better deal, you start advertising in local papers for fellow BSG junkies to come and watch the show in HD, and hit them with a cover charge for beer and snacks. :D
Now admit it, aren't you embarrased that you didn't think of this yourself? :D
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michaeltscott 04-02-08, 04:25 PM Your only real problem is not thinking outside the box. The house is empty, right? No one's using it, right? Cut a deal with your old housemate (man, terms like "housemate" just remind me how old I really am ;) ), that you'll pay for the hook-up with Cox and the minimal cost of electricity, and the quid pro quo will be that she allows you to occupy the house every Friday night, which will increase the sellability of the home, as the lights will turn on when inspected, and it will have that 'lived-in' feel that buyers find so appealing. ;)Actually, I'm sure that she's left the electricity running--it's difficult to show even an empty home without lights. It's a free-standing house in a condo complex, and the HOA fees cover expanded basic cable, though you'd need a box or CableCARDs to access a channel like Sci Fi HD. If it wasn't such a pain to move my LCD panel and sound system back and forth, it might almost be worth it :D.
Actually, I'm sure that she's left the electricity running--it's difficult to show even an empty home without lights. It's a free-standing house in a condo complex, and the HOA fees cover expanded basic cable, though you'd need a box or CableCARDs to access a channel like Sci Fi HD. If it wasn't such a pain to move my LCD panel and sound system back and forth, it might almost be worth it :D.
Ah..I see...so not a true HD fan then eh? :p
OK so in the last page or so of posts we talked about...
Driving from California to Michigan and
Moving back into and Empty house
just to see BSG in HD.
Ok good, just checking to make sure that we are all well balanced folks ;)
Palladin 04-02-08, 06:58 PM OK so in the last page or so of posts we talked about...
Driving from California to Michigan and
Moving back into and Empty house
just to see BSG in HD.
Ok good, just checking to make sure that we are all well balanced folks ;)
You left out Starbuck's rack and that many think 'Scar' was one of the better stand-alones. All that we really need at this point is for someone to import a virtual countdown clock into the thread. :cool:
Oh, and maybe a poll to choose the final fifth before gametime. ;)
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old64mb 04-02-08, 09:04 PM At first I was quite chuffed that SciFi was showing all three seasons of BSG in marathons this week. That is until I saw that they were all being shown in letterboxed SD on the HD channel.
This quote actually makes me feel immensely better, since I was about to grit my teeth and ask if the marathon was in HD as Comcast is going to be ever so kind and add ScifiHD in my area in oh, a couple weeks.
aaronwt 04-02-08, 09:05 PM So as BSG-Day approaches I am agonizing...
I have FiOS and we do not have SciFi HD (other than that I like FiOS alot). The last seasons I went into a cocoon, avoided this thread like the plague just and waited to watch in HD on Universal HD. But I don't think I can hold out this time, especially since it seems like there is not official UiHD Date (?) not with the finally from last season and its been soooo long...I am weakening....
SD here I come aaaagaggggghhhhhhhh
"All Along the Watchtower" reverberates through his head
Do what I did. Comcast has a non commitment deal right now for $30 a month plus cable card($1.95) Sign up and then disconnect it before the promotion runs out in 6 months. I did this for Sci-Fi HD and to supplement my FIOS with the other HD channels that Comcast has and FIOS doesn't. Hopefully FIOS will have those channels in 6 months when I terminate my Comcast feed.
It's worth it for BSG alone. An add in the other HDchannels that FIOS doesn't have and it only makes sense to sign up.
Do what I did. Comcast has a non commitment deal right now for $30 a month plus cable card($1.95) Sign up and then disconnect it before the promotion runs out in 6 months. I did this for Sci-Fi HD and to supplement my FIOS with the other HD channels that Comcast has and FIOS doesn't. Hopefully FIOS will have those channels in 6 months when I terminate my Comcast feed.
It's worth it for BSG alone. An add in the other HDchannels that FIOS doesn't have and it only makes sense to sign up.
Unfortunately I am in a TWC zone.
michaeltscott 04-03-08, 01:15 PM I was watching a recording of CSI: Miami this morning on my TiVo. After it was over, the normal TiVo "Keep this recording?" query came up. As usual for the past several months, at the end of the query was a menu option for an advertisement; this one was labelled "Battlestar Galactica Special". Generally I ignore these completely, but this one piqued my curiousity. It lead to a page advertising the new season of BSG, with a few different options. The first was "What the Frak is Going On? (http://www.scifi.com/index.php?clip=frak)" which featured an 8 minute synopsis of the entire series with an hilarious voice-over narration. I googled "What the Frak is Going On? (http://www.scifi.com/index.php?clip=frak)" and found the clip at the Sci Fi Channel's site--click the link to watch it (after, of course, an unavoidable ad :rolleyes:). Enjoy :).
EDIT: Something that I hadn't thought of before occurred to me while I was watching that synopsis (maybe it was discussed in this thread, and I just missed it). If Tyrol is a Cylon, then his baby with Cally is a second hybrid, like Hera. Interesting.
The woman that does the narration for that is the same one who did the Lost in 8:15 recap. Great stuff!
Palladin 04-03-08, 02:22 PM The first was "What the Frak is Going On? (http://www.scifi.com/index.php?clip=frak)" which featured an 8 minute synopsis of the entire series with an hilarious voice-over narration.
Yes, very funny, and she did it with the speed of that guy who used to do the commercial ads for (?Fedex?)
EDIT: Something that I hadn't thought of before occurred to me while I was watching that synopsis (maybe it was discussed in this thread, and I just missed it). If Tyrol is a Cylon, then his baby with Cally is a second hybrid, like Hera. Interesting.
Yeah, this got quite a bit of discussion in the BSG-Sci-fi thread last year, but I don't think there were any real conclusions as to where it would ultimately lead.
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petergaryr 04-03-08, 02:37 PM ... The first was "What the Frak is Going On? (http://www.scifi.com/index.php?clip=frak)" which featured an 8 minute synopsis of the entire series with an hilarious voice-over narration. I googled "What the Frak is Going On? (http://www.scifi.com/index.php?clip=frak)" and found the clip at the Sci Fi Channel's site--click the link to watch it (after, of course, an unavoidable ad :rolleyes:). Enjoy :).
...
What's wild about it is that it is actually acurate! Surprisingly so, since it took us like 5 years to finally get to experience what she recapped in only 8 minutes!
petergaryr 04-03-08, 02:40 PM The woman that does the narration for that is the same one who did the Lost in 8:15 recap. Great stuff!
Whoever did the script for this, as well as the one for Lost gets a round of applause.
She delivers it in such a deadpan way that the comments like "very sad" are hilarious.
michaeltscott 04-03-08, 02:46 PM What's wild about it is that it is actually acurate! Surprisingly so, since it took us like 5 years to finally get to experience what she recapped in only 8 minutes!Not entirely--the Battlestar Wiki page on the clip (http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/What_The_Frak_Is_Going_On) points out a few mistakes. They also confirm that it's the same narrator (and production group) as the Lost clip, though they don't identify her.
dcowboy7 04-03-08, 03:28 PM just fyi:
i asked before and no one knew but saw in variety that the "caprica" prequel spinoff will debut as a pilot in fall 2008 and the show should start summer 2009.
Not entirely--the Battlestar Wiki page on the clip (http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/What_The_Frak_Is_Going_On) points out a few mistakes. They also confirm that it's the same narrator (and production group) as the Lost clip, though they don't identify her.
Her name is Mary O'Brien. And she's enjoying her notoriety.
http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/03/battlestar-reca.html
Glad I checked the site. I forgot that it was coming on and I just did the online recording setup.
hooked01 04-03-08, 04:24 PM Her name is Mary O'Brien. And she's enjoying her notoriety.
http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2008/03/battlestar-reca.html
Good for her. I guess she's like the Fedex guy that could talk a mile a minute (accurately) from the '80's.
Palladin 04-03-08, 04:53 PM Good for her. I guess she's like the Fedex guy that could talk a mile a minute (accurately) from the '80's.
Beat' ya ;)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13549514#post13549514
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Audixium 04-03-08, 05:10 PM To make it an even better deal, you start advertising in local papers for fellow BSG junkies to come and watch the show in HD, and hit them with a cover charge for beer and snacks. :D
Anybody in Denver want to offer up a similar service (cover charge/beer/snacks)? I just don't think I'll be able to bring myself to watch the COMpressionCAST SD version on my 156" screen...
Palladin 04-03-08, 05:56 PM Anybody in Denver want to offer up a similar service (cover charge/beer/snacks)? I just don't think I'll be able to bring myself to watch the COMpressionCAST SD version on my 156" screen...
Compressed SD on a 156" screen? You gotta be kidding. Why don't you just pull your eyes out of thier sockets and get it over with? Look, get a couple of friends, find a bar with a Sci-fi HD feed, and take over a table near a 37-42" HD display. Still better than the alternative, and you won't need cornea surgery. ;)
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Audixium 04-03-08, 06:04 PM Well, I might just have to find another way to get the HD version on my own screen...it might even already have the commercials clipped out. ;)
Meanwhile, I'm so excited that we're getting the FOOD Network in HD this month! :mad:
rebkell 04-03-08, 06:13 PM I just looked at my DVR and I have 49 episodes of BSG on it, I had no idea the DVR would hold that much, these are all recorded on the HD feed, I know they all aren't in HD, but still the HD feed still consumes more space. On top of that I have at least another 18 hours recorded on HD stations.
optivity 04-03-08, 06:17 PM BSG is one of the few SD programs that I will watch with its OAR, black bars and all, on my PRO-150FD.
What the heck is Time Warner doing?
signed: a Fios & CATV customer
archiguy 04-03-08, 08:37 PM I just looked at my DVR and I have 49 episodes of BSG on it, I had no idea the DVR would hold that much, these are all recorded on the HD feed, I know they all aren't in HD, but still the HD feed still consumes more space. On top of that I have at least another 18 hours recorded on HD stations.
49 HD hours of BSG on the DVR. Attaboy! I salute you too, sir! :D
hooked01 04-03-08, 10:35 PM Beat' ya ;)
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13549514#post13549514
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My bad! I didn't scroll up far enough. At least someone agrees with me.
I also like the part where all the surviving ships join Galactica to form a ragtag fleet in space where cameras have a hard time keeping up! :D
Television Without Pity has some fun coverage of the Season 4 press conference on their site. (http://www.televisionwithoutpity.com/Shows/Mondo-Extras/Stories/Battlestar-Galactica-season-4-press-conference) I don't think anything can top this quote from Katee Sackhoff:
Someone asked me one time, 'How fast does a viper go?' I looked at them with utter confusion on my face and said, 'As fast as the crew can push it.'
:D
vfxproducer 04-04-08, 03:59 AM "What the Frak is Going On? (http://www.scifi.com/index.php?clip=frak)"
'There's a bun in the toaster"
"Takes a goo bath"
Pretty funny clip.
CPanther95 04-04-08, 07:49 AM 'There's a bun in the toaster"
"Takes a goo bath"
Pretty funny clip.
That was hilarious and surprisingly effective at covering the series to date. Whoever wrote that fantastic summary deserves an Emmy (as does the person that edited it).
archiguy 04-04-08, 09:11 AM ^^^ I agree. Really great job of summing everything up to this point. I'm only mildly jacked up at this point, but by 10:00 tonight will probably be jumping out of my skin. Not like the "Watchtower Four", though. Still having a rough time imagining Saul Tigh as a toaster.
A pox on TWC for not adding SciFi-HD yet. How can such evil exit in the world??
Palladin 04-04-08, 09:41 AM FINALLY!
Hard to believe a whole year's gone by. Feels more like 3 years. :eek: By this point, the Galactica should have reached Earth (if it is Earth), scanned the air-waves for the staus of our planet, said FRAK, and turned around figuring they've got a better shot of survival in outer space with the Cylons. ;).
So, just out of curiosity, which heretics are going to watch the premiere on Sci-fi.com at noon, rather than waiting to get home and watch it on a decent sized screen this evening?
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The long wait it's over!!!! I so missed this series, I will be glued to the TV tonight... (too bad I don't have paid TV, but my friend does LOL)..
FINALLY!
So, just out of curiosity, which heretics are going to watch the premiere on Sci-fi.com at noon, rather than waiting to get home and watch it on a decent sized screen this evening?
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"Not I", said the man with a multi $K investment in his HT system. :D
Palladin 04-04-08, 10:35 AM "Not I", said the man with a multi $K investment in his HT system. :D
Ahhh. It is most heartening to see a man who has his priorities firmly in place. ;)
Now who is going to succumb to their need for instant gratification, post some kind of comment at 1:00 p.m. like "It was frackin' UNBELIEVABLE", and thereby force the rest of us to burn that poor soul at the stake? :mad: :D
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CPanther95 04-04-08, 10:41 AM I'll be avoiding the thread and SciFi from 11:59am until I've watched the episode off the DVR.
I'm pumped.
I'm a newbie to BSG & just watched the 1st season on Universal HD. I love it but I'm torn if I should start watching season 4 tonght because: 1.) It might spoil seasons 2 & 3 for me &/or 2.) I might be lost on the plot.
CPanther95 04-04-08, 11:08 AM Wait and watch them in order. As tough as it is to pass up on the new episodes, the new episodes are nothing compared to the fact that you have a few seasons of episodes in the can just waiting to be viewed.
I'm a newbie to BSG & just watched the 1st season on Universal HD. I love it but I'm torn if I should start watching season 4 tonght because: 1.) It might spoil seasons 2 & 3 for me &/or 2.) I might be lost on the plot.
I'll take that comment and elaborate further.....
I haven't seen ANY of the first 3 seasons. Will I be lost or can I jump on board tonight for Season 4?
Wytchone 04-04-08, 11:15 AM Guys if you have only seen season 1 or none a tall. AVOID season 4 till you are caught up.
Trust me.
michaeltscott 04-04-08, 11:16 AM I'll take that comment and elaborate further.....
I haven't seen ANY of the first 3 seasons. Will I be lost or can I jump on board tonight for Season 4?That depends. Did you watch "What the Frak Is Going On? (http://www.scifi.com/index.php?clip=frak)"? Watch it, and you'll be good to go :D.
rustycruiser 04-04-08, 11:18 AM I'll take that comment and elaborate further.....
I haven't seen ANY of the first 3 seasons. Will I be lost or can I jump on board tonight for Season 4?
You could watch the "What the Frak is Going On" video, and dive into Season 4. But why would you? You would ruin 3 seasons worth of episodes of a brilliant show. You should watch:
Miniseries -> Season One -> Season Two -> Resistance Webisodes -> Season Three -> Razor Webisodes -> Razor -> Season Four
allargon 04-04-08, 11:20 AM +1
I'm only mad because I have to watch it in "SD" tonight thanks to Dish's intransigence! Still, I will watch it glorious overcompressed, then poorly upconverted "SD", and grin.
max crane 04-04-08, 11:24 AM Sorry if its already been posted, haven't read this thread in a while and haven't had time to go back all the way thru but........
Anyone notice the picture on scifi.com's battlestar home page of the cast and the fairly obivious similarities to the the Last Summer painting of jesus? What are your guys thoughts, anything to read into this?
michaeltscott 04-04-08, 11:30 AM Sorry if its already been posted, haven't read this thread in a while and haven't had time to go back all the way thru but........
Anyone notice the picture on scifi.com's battlestar home page of the cast and the fairly obivious similarities to the the Last Summer painting of jesus? What are your guys thoughts, anything to read into this?Yes; it's a picture that first appeared in Entertainment Weekly and was discussed here 3 months back. See this (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12682125#post12682125).
For a quick check of something like that, just go to the top of the page, pull down "Search This Thread" and type "Last Supper".
EDIT: It looks like loco changed the link in his original post to a clean copy of the picture. The original layout from EW is here (http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o215/pennyfeline/BSG/merged-s.jpg), featuring some interesting text.
Guys if you have only seen season 1 or none a tall. AVOID season 4 till you are caught up.
Trust me.
Seconded. This series is worth seeing sequentially and spoiler-free.
Good luck with not seeing any media references during this final season. Perhaps a massive BSG DVD watching marathon is in order. :cool:
rdgrimes 04-04-08, 11:45 AM I'm a newbie to BSG & just watched the 1st season on Universal HD. I love it but I'm torn if I should start watching season 4 tonght because: 1.) It might spoil seasons 2 & 3 for me &/or 2.) I might be lost on the plot.
Wait and watch S-4 on UHD, then you can catch up on S-2, S-3 in the mean time.
Palladin 04-04-08, 11:46 AM I'll be avoiding the thread and SciFi from 11:59am until I've watched the episode off the DVR.
I'm pumped.
Off the DVR??!! Is your wife forcing you to go out and socialize this evening, and deprive you of seeing the original broadcast? :eek: Have you told her that this can be considered sufficient grounds for divorce in most states? Oh, the humanity. Honestly, how pumped are you really? :D
I'm a newbie to BSG & just watched the 1st season on Universal HD. I love it but I'm torn if I should start watching season 4 tonght because: 1.) It might spoil seasons 2 & 3 for me &/or 2.) I might be lost on the plot.
I'll take that comment and elaborate further.....
I haven't seen ANY of the first 3 seasons. Will I be lost or can I jump on board tonight for Season 4?
You will both be doing yourselves a huge disservice which you will ultimately regret. Go rent or buy the DVD sets for the first 3 seasons (Razer is optional, but not necessary for the continuing story line) and watch them first, then catch up with the BSG re-runs for Season 4 on UHD or Sci-fi.
EDIT: Damn I'm a slow typist. Four other guys have alreeady answered this while I was hunting and pecking. :(
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michaeltscott 04-04-08, 11:57 AM Off the DVR??!! Is your wife forcing you to go out and socialize this evening, and deprive you of seeing the original broadcast? :eek: Have you told her that this can be considered sufficient grounds for divorce in most states? Oh, the humanity. Honestly, how pumped are you really? :DI don't know about him, but I don't watch TV live, period. The closest that I come to that is waiting half an hour into an hour long show to allow a buffer to build up. I gotta be able to zap the frakkin' ads.
The "What the Frak Is Going On?" recap is hilarious and entertaining for BSG fans, but I feel it's woefully inadequate at catching up new viewers to the show. Definitely see Seasons 1, 2, and 3 before diving in to Season 4. Please.
jwebb1970 04-04-08, 12:08 PM I don't know about him, but I don't watch TV live, period. The closest that I come to that is waiting half an hour into an hour long show to allow a buffer to build up. I gotta be able to zap the frakkin' ads.
Ditto. Only time "live TV" is on in my house is for sports.
Same as you on waiting for a buffer. One show we do watch the night it airs is LOST. Usually wait until 30 minutes in to start it. Case will be the same for BSG.
Actually, we do this w/ AMERICAN IDOL as well. It is amazing that one can get everything necessary out of that show (ie - the competitive singing parts) in a fraction of the time. FF the commercials, all in-show filler and every moment Paula has her mouth open & an hour long installment runs about 10-15 minutes. Don;t even bother w/ results shows. One can get that info online by 8:00 Pacific time (the one great thing about tape delay).
Another plus for us west coast folks that are sat subscribers? The BSG premiere tonight starts @ 7:00pm & reruns @ 9:00. Gotta love D*'s east coast feeds!!!
CPanther95 04-04-08, 12:27 PM I don't know about him, but I don't watch TV live, period. The closest that I come to that is waiting half an hour into an hour long show to allow a buffer to build up. I gotta be able to zap the frakkin' ads.
Same here, normally 20-25 minutes after start. Although tonight, I'll probably be sitting here at 10pm waiting and end up starting it at 10:10 or 10:15.
max crane 04-04-08, 12:37 PM Well I did it; I tuned in to Scifi.com for about 30 seconds of the episode and then immediately came to my sences and shut it off, lol.
I can't wait till tonight and there is know way I will be able to wait until the buffer on the DVR builds up.
archiguy 04-04-08, 01:08 PM I'll just chime in as well for the newbies - WAIT! Hate to say it (and really hate to say it if you're a Nielsen family - in that case, tune into the show but go sequester yourself in a soundproof room for an hour) but you gotta' wait and watch them in order. Part of the fun of this show is the mind-blowing, paradigm-shifting, certifiably-insane plot twists and reveals that they toss out periodically, especially in the season-ending cliffhangers. You don't want to miss that stuff as it occurs because picking your jaw up off the floor and turning to your viewing partners with a look of wide-eyed "I can't believe what I just saw" wonder is one of the delicious treats this show offers. And don't watch that cute clip show we've been talking about either. Sorry, but like the occasional teaspoon of caster oil, this advice is good for you. You'll thank us later. :D
Palladin 04-04-08, 01:20 PM I don't know about him, but I don't watch TV live, period. The closest that I come to that is waiting half an hour into an hour long show to allow a buffer to build up. I gotta be able to zap the frakkin' ads.
As a general proposition, I tend to observe a similar protocol. But as I have never been a great believer in the concept that 'one size fits all', there are two shows I consider a definite exception to that rule, and BSG is one of them, let alone the first new BSG in a year, despite the commercial interruptions. Hell, if I had to (and thank god, I don't!) I'd probably sit through speeches of George W. and Nancy Pelosi, if they showed new BSG during the commercial breaks. :rolleyes:
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I'll just chime in as well for the newbies - WAIT! Hate to say it (and really hate to say it if you're a Nielsen family - in that case, tune into the show but go sequester yourself in a soundproof room for an hour) but you gotta' wait and watch them in order. Part of the fun of this show is the mind-blowing, paradigm-shifting, certifiably-insane plot twists and reveals that they toss out periodically, especially in the season-ending cliffhangers. You don't want to miss that stuff as it occurs because picking your jaw up off the floor and turning to your viewing partners with a look of wide-eyed "I can't believe what I just saw" wonder is one of the delicious treats this show offers. And don't watch that cute clip show we've been talking about either. Sorry, but like the occasional teaspoon of caster oil, this advice is good for you. You'll thank us later. :D
Beautifully put!
I sometimes wish I could go back and watch the show for the first time again. I've rewatched the series, er, more times that I should admit, and it's great and you pick up new things each time you see certain episodes. But I'll never experience those innocent wonder/mindfrak moments again.
The next best thing is to watch it with someone who's watching it for the first time. :)
I'll just chime in as well for the newbies - WAIT! Hate to say it but you gotta' wait and watch them in order. Part of the fun of this show is the mind-blowing, paradigm-shifting, certifiably-insane plot twists and reveals that they toss out periodically, especially in the season-ending cliffhangers. You don't want to miss that stuff as it occurs because picking your jaw up off the floor and turning to your viewing partners with a look of wide-eyed "I can't believe what I just saw" wonder is one of the delicious treats this show offers. And don't watch that cute clip show we've been talking about either. Sorry, but like the occasional teaspoon of caster oil, this advice is good for you. You'll thank us later. :D
YES!! I would add that we haven't watched BSG anywhere except DVDs yet. The experience of watching this show as though it was one (very) long movie has been excellent. Many of the commercial break blackouts actually heighten the drama and add nice punctuation marks to strong moments.
We were going to wait until season 4 DVDs come out but I don't think we will be able to avoid media plot reveals.
7 hours, 14 minutes and counting. :cool:
obsid1an 04-04-08, 02:51 PM I watched season one a while back and I just started grabbing season 2 from netflix. Since it's not on blu-ray I'll try to watch out for when season 4 makes it to UHD and watch it when I'm caught up.
Ditto. Only time "live TV" is on in my house is for sports.
Same here, live TV for sports only, everything else is DVR playback.
JMartinko 04-04-08, 03:01 PM Same here, normally 20-25 minutes after start. Although tonight, I'll probably be sitting here at 10pm waiting and end up starting it at 10:10 or 10:15.
+1 or +2, or whatever the count is now.
Same here. I just don't watch commercials anymore except during live sports events (which still is about half my viewing, but that is another long sad story). I plan to watch the weekly McLaughlin Group on PBS at 8MDT and them after it is done (8:25 or so) start the DVR and watch.
I'm willing to watch commercials for BSG. When it's a great episode, it actually gives me a chance to catch my breath.
petergaryr 04-04-08, 03:58 PM I'll be there at 10 sharp, even though recording it. Have been watching since the beginning, but this week SciFi has been running (at least the last couple of days) the episodes in HD. BTW, since dropping the extra pack on DirecTV, I've lost UHD, so getting to see these in HD is a whole new experience.
I'm in a frenzy at this point. Will just hit the "mute" button during the commercials. Must.....have.....BSG......Now.
Because I live on the west coast (L.A.), the SciFi channel episode of BSG will be received via D* at 7 PM, PDS time and recorded to my DVR. It's nice to have the series available earlier in the evening to watch. Same thing applied to SGA. All I know is that I have been looking so forward to this new season. It's on my DVR prioritizer list ahead of "Lost" even though the scheduling of both shows don't conflict.
rolltide1017 04-04-08, 06:09 PM So, is it known for a fact that Universal HD will air season 4 at some point in the future (stupid BHN hasn't added SciFi HD yet). If so, I may hold off on watching season 4 until UHD airs it (like I did for season 3).
I didn't watch the end of season three until the DVDs came in the mail a few days ago. I was watching it on UHD but I suddenly got something like a social life and lost track of it at the end of the season. Good thing I didn't see them because the hanging storylines would have been bugging me for months.
Now that life is back to normal, I'm ready to commit my Friday evenings to BSG!
cstmstyle 04-04-08, 07:03 PM Just rewatched The season 3 ending and boy I'm not ready to bite on the 4 being cylons. It just doesn't make much sense as one has been around for at least 40 years so to me that would mean the cylons have been in human form since the beginning. Also the focus seams to be on Harah but there is another hybrid baby that was born that no one is even paying attention to. I feel bad for whats in stake for Kali. Can't wait to see how this all plays out.
archiguy 04-04-08, 07:20 PM Just rewatched The season 3 ending and boy I'm not ready to bite on the 4 being cylons. It just doesn't make much sense as one has been around for at least 40 years so to me that would mean the cylons have been in human form since the beginning.
Ron Moore has said the "Watchtower Four" are fundamentally different from the other humanoid Cylons. Take that for what it's worth. ;)
Three of the four have done more to fight Cylon occupations than any other characters on the show. It's as if Moore picked them more for that reason than for any reason that would make sense. And the matter of the Chief's "toaster baby" will have to be addressed at some point.
This better be good. They're really pushing it.
All four were integral members of the resistance on New Caprica. Tory helped organize the escape drills. Also, they are all aligned with someone/something in power or important ... Tory - Roslin, Tigh - Adama, Anders - Starbuck, Chief - er, the ship and Vipers/Raptors.
That is why my guess for the final Cylon is Zarek. He was also a part of the resistance, is Roslin's VP, and was not on Galactica when everyone else was hearing the music and convening in the gym.
acksnay 04-04-08, 07:43 PM Anyone with DTV and an HR20 know if the SCIFIHD channel will be showing in HD or letterbox tonight?
archiguy 04-04-08, 07:46 PM That is why my guess for the final Cylon is Zarek. He was also a part of the resistance, is Roslin's VP, and was not on Galactica when everyone else was hearing the music and convening in the gym.
I like that. And how fitting would it be that the original Apollo was the Final Cylon...? :p
I like that. And how fitting would it be that the original Apollo was the Final Cylon...? :p
Totally. ;) If it is not one of the main characters, Zarek is one that might have the strongest impact on fans. It's hard to top Tigh as a Cylon unless they pick Starbuck, Roslin, Adama, or Lee. I'm hoping it's not one of them. Although Lee might be interesting.
rebkell 04-04-08, 07:51 PM Anyone with DTV and an HR20 know if the SCIFIHD channel will be showing in HD or letterbox tonight?
It's listed as HD in the guide, and I have no doubt it will be in HD.
acksnay 04-04-08, 07:53 PM I'm hopeful, but the preview just shown was in letterbox. yikes...
dvdguru 04-04-08, 07:55 PM Anyone with DTV and an HR20 know if the SCIFIHD channel will be showing in HD or letterbox tonight?
I flipped over there earlier today and the replays were in HD so I'm thinking yes...
Nah, Zarek was a "bad guy" when he was first introduced in the series. He was a bad guy for many episodes. That would be too obvious.
Interesting how that Cylon juice they pulled out of Boomer fixed Prez Roslin's cancer for a while. You wouldn't expect fluids out of a Cylon to help a regular human.
dvdguru 04-04-08, 07:57 PM I believe maybe it's because she was pregnant with a hybrid wasn't she?
acksnay 04-04-08, 08:00 PM YES!!!!! Full HD. Thank the gods.
Palladin 04-04-08, 08:15 PM Although Lee might be interesting.
So you think they're going to break a three season precedent in the very first episode of season 4? ;)
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Took the day off, my lovely bride won't be home until late tonight so I recorded and watched the entire day's Season 3 marathon of BSG on the SciFi HD channel. Just finished at 9:25 PM EDT.
Full volume, "All Along the Watch Tower" blasting out the speakers as can only been done when in the house alone, I was literally in tears as Season 3 ended. Thank (insert deity here) that I only have to wait 30 minutes for Season 4 to start. Probably just enough time for my heart to stop beating so hard! :)
SciFi HD channel on Comcast in Frederick, MD -- all the marathon shows were in full HD, not the crappy "wide screen with black bars on all four sides" that a lot of their stuff is.
Must be nice to have SciFi HD for tonights show,(damn you comcast of south jersey :mad:) Right now I'm watching part 2 of crossroads on SciFi SD and it looks terrible on my 52 inch lcd. I could just imagine how bad it looks on some of your guys 100+ inch projector setups :o
Must be nice to have SciFi HD for tonights show,(damn you comcast of south jersey :mad:) Right now I'm watching part 2 of crossroads on SciFi SD and it looks terrible on my 52 inch lcd. I could just imagine how bad it looks on some of your guys 100+ inch projector setups :o
I'm watching it in HD from DirecTV right now and the quality isn't what I'd call "pristine." I think it's more to do with the way they shoot it than the transmission.
And to elaborate on a previous post of mine, watching the last episode of season 3 right now and comparing it to what I downloaded from Amazon, they're surprisingly close in terms of PQ. This is on a Panasonic 58" 1080p plasma for both. If you can't get it in HD then Amazon should be a pretty close second if you don't mind paying for it.
rustycruiser 04-04-08, 10:00 PM And we are live. Season Four is a go. About fraking time.
rustycruiser 04-04-08, 10:12 PM I am not going to spoil anything, but I just want to say that the first 5 minutes made up for the year wait. OMFG!
:D
I'm glad Baltar got rid of that Jack Shepard beard.
acksnay 04-04-08, 10:59 PM I say Baltar is the 12th. There's been this nagging problem for me watching the (old) opening sequence these past few years. There he is with 6 as a nuke goes off, with only 6's slim body to protect him from the oncoming blast wave. Never bought him surviving that. So ...
I go with Baltar.
Baltar as a Cylon would almost ruin the whole show for me. One of the most interesting things about him is his betrayal of humanity. If he's a Cylon, it means nothing.
Anyway, GREAT episode! Great ending! Great opening battle! BSG is back, baby!
petergaryr 04-04-08, 11:05 PM I can't believe we waited all this time for an new episode and all we got was that.
All it had was a gripping story, great acting, excellent special effects and the continuing unfolding of an amazing story arc. :)
The fact that they incorporated the line "One will be revealed" into the new opening makes me think it's going to be a while before we find out who the 5th unknown Cylon is. Good episode, great opening.
It seems the Cylon raider recognized Anders. I wonder if there's some deep down programming in all Cylons to respect and obey the 5, something that even the other 7 don't know about.
I can't believe we waited all this time for an new episode and all we got was that.
All it had was a gripping story, great acting, excellent special effects and the continuing unfolding of an amazing story arc. :)
LOL...it was frackin' spectacular wasn't it? Definitely worth the wait. :):)
dfergie 04-04-08, 11:24 PM The fact that they incorporated the line "One will be revealed" into the new opening makes me think it's going to be a while before we find out who the 5th unknown Cylon is. Good episode, great opening.
It seems the Cylon raider recognized Anders. I wonder if there's some deep down programming in all Cylons to respect and obey the 5, something that even the other 7 don't know about.
Very perceptive idea... I agree...
I'm watching it in HD from DirecTV right now and the quality isn't what I'd call "pristine." I think it's more to do with the way they shoot it than the transmission.
And to elaborate on a previous post of mine, watching the last episode of season 3 right now and comparing it to what I downloaded from Amazon, they're surprisingly close in terms of PQ. This is on a Panasonic 58" 1080p plasma for both. If you can't get it in HD then Amazon should be a pretty close second if you don't mind paying for it.
It is the way it's shot/produced. If you caught the beginning of Stargate:Atlantis following the previews you can see the difference in how the 2 shows are shot/filtered, SA has a decidedly cleaner/sharper look to it. I saw only one very brief instance of artifacting during a close-up flyby during the battle sequence, the rest of it looked fine.
Viewed on a 73" CRT RPTV w/9" guns at native resolution.
Very perceptive idea... I agree...
I do too, especially after seeing the previews of next week.
MOREPOWER 04-04-08, 11:35 PM I think Roslyn is the final cylon.
Assayer 04-05-08, 12:21 AM I think Roslyn is the final cylon.
A toaster with cancer, now there is a thought. . .
afiggatt 04-05-08, 12:23 AM It seems the Cylon raider recognized Anders. I wonder if there's some deep down programming in all Cylons to respect and obey the 5, something that even the other 7 don't know about.
There is a problem with that. I think all four of them were on the planet when they were ruled by the Cylons. Brother Cavil (Dean Stockwell) did not show much respect or obedience to Colonel Tigh when he was torturing him - or helping him go for that cool eyepatch look. Yes, they strongly suggested that the Raider recognized Anders causing the Cylons to withdraw, but what was different? Did the rest of the Cylons hear the All Along the Watchtower song as well?
I will be interested to see how well they tie all these plot elements together. Unless the writers are more careful than they have appeared to be, there will be inconsistencies that people will pick over for years. :D I wonder if they will ever explain away the reference to the Lagoon Nebula which was referred to as M8 (Messier 8) way back in season 2. That has always bugged me because the popular name for the nebula only goes back 100 years or so. It only works if they find a Earth of our distant future.
pez__man 04-05-08, 12:27 AM So, just to confirm, the new season 4 of BSG is being shown in 16:9 1080i HD, not letterbox (with black bars on all 4 sides), on SciFi HD with DirecTV?
I only ask because I recently purchased a 60" Sony KDS A3000, and I've only used it for OTA and my Toshiba A30 HD DVD player. I will literally sign up for DirecTV HD service just for season 4 of BSG in high def.
I did manage to watch the premiere tonight on a friend's 19" SDTV, but it was not very fulfilling considering that I just finished watching season 3 on dvd upconverted by my A30 to my 60" HDTV earlier today.
Am I crazy for wanting to sign up for D* just to watch this show?
It's not letterboxed. It fills up the entire screen.
prospect60 04-05-08, 12:44 AM Am I crazy for wanting to sign up for D* just to watch this show?
Not crazy, Full and glorious HD tonight. Need to start calling quickly
There is a problem with that. I think all four of them were on the planet when they were ruled by the Cylons. Brother Cavil (Dean Stockwell) did not show much respect or obedience to Colonel Tigh when he was torturing him - or helping him go for that cool eyepatch look. Yes, they strongly suggested that the Raider recognized Anders causing the Cylons to withdraw, but what was different?
It's possible that they didn't recognize them until the "switch" went off. 6 never mentioned feeling the 5 were close before that, either, unless I am forgetting something.
:D Looks like we have another great season coming up. The script and character developments did not disappoint. The SFX were really amazing. I saw it on a neighbor's 32" D* SD setup and I could tell it would look incredible on our 10' from 100" screen usual location.
I may have to do a Satellite hookup. We just don't watch enough TV to warrant the cost. But if any one event is worth it, BSG is it.
dfergie 04-05-08, 01:06 AM It's possible that they didn't recognize them until the "switch" went off. 6 never mentioned feeling the 5 were close before that, either, unless I am forgetting something.To quote Scotty... aye...
There is a problem with that. I think all four of them were on the planet when they were ruled by the Cylons. Brother Cavil (Dean Stockwell) did not show much respect or obedience to Colonel Tigh when he was torturing him - or helping him go for that cool eyepatch look. Yes, they strongly suggested that the Raider recognized Anders causing the Cylons to withdraw, but what was different? Did the rest of the Cylons hear the All Along the Watchtower song as well?
Good points I hadn't thought of. But like t0x said, maybe they weren't broadcasting their SSID so to speak because they hadn't been switched on yet.
I will be interested to see how well they tie all these plot elements together. Unless the writers are more careful than they have appeared to be, there will be inconsistencies that people will pick over for years. :D I wonder if they will ever explain away the reference to the Lagoon Nebula which was referred to as M8 (Messier 8) way back in season 2. That has always bugged me because the popular name for the nebula only goes back 100 years or so. It only works if they find a Earth of our distant future.
I don't try to correlate anything in the show with our actual history. Too much other stuff to try and make sense of that maybe should just be taken for what it is. The whole Roman gods polytheism thing for one: I don't remember ever reading about the ancient Greeks or Romans taking off for another solar system.
So, just to confirm, the new season 4 of BSG is being shown in 16:9 1080i HD, not letterbox (with black bars on all 4 sides), on SciFi HD with DirecTV?
Yes.
dfergie 04-05-08, 01:09 AM The 5 are the Cylon elders Imho... Tighe must have been inserted / activated soon after the events shown in Razor when Adama was on the planet...
I may have to do a Satellite hookup. We just don't watch enough TV to warrant the cost. But if any one event is worth it, BSG is it.Indeed. DISH was begging me to come back just the other day. Hmmm........
dfergie 04-05-08, 01:24 AM Indeed. DISH was begging me to come back just the other day. Hmmm........But right now Direct is the only Sat provider to carry ScifiHD... Dish maybe "Soon"
BSG is the best show on Earth; PQ never stopped me from watchin'. iTunes, here I come.....!
MOREPOWER 04-05-08, 01:52 AM A toaster with cancer, now there is a thought. . .
Why not, an entire base ship died at the hands of some human virus.
How do we know its really cancer or some weird cylon
prototype with an oil leak, we call it cancer.
Maybe she was the first of the new skin jobs.
Can someone explain where they were heading after the battle? I thought they were going to the nebula for the next clue to the direction of Earth. But they weren't there long enough to get a clue (other than the one they won't listen to). So, where are they jumping to? What's Roslin's plan that she's refusing to deviate from and what is she basing it on?
shadowrage 04-05-08, 02:06 AM I think Roslyn is the final cylon.
She isn't. She shared the dream because she has cylon DNA, from the Athena's baby. Didn't Roslin's cancer return?
And we didn't find out exactly what happened to Starbuck at the farm, so she could have some form of cylon DNA too.
I think Lee is the final cylon. He's the one I would least expect. Plus at the end of the 3rd season the way it was cut it kind of looked like he heard the music too(I will have to watch it again). Then he asked his father how he would feel if his brother was a cylon. Plus he is the most important character, that doesn't get any real important story arcs. Why would he all of the sudden choose politics over the viper, unless he plans to negotiate with the cylons.
Not to mention Admiral Adama was seen investigating a cylon facility in Razor(I think Lee was born after). Could that play into this season?
Have they ever explained anything about Lee's mother?
What if Bob Dylan is the final model???
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