Mine die 13 months after purchase. how about yours?:mad:

The D1 is Dead.

D1 Died 3 weeks after warranty expired.

No help from V Inc.

Great pq when it worked, and it did many things right (properly scale 4:3 and non-anamorphic widescreen movies on a 16:9 screen).

It did lock up once in while before it took a complete crapper.

On occasion, mine freezes, won't open or respond to any buttons and displays "No CD." I have to unplug/plug the electric cord and the DVI input and to get it to reboot and work.

Great picture, though.

Dan

wow!!

I purchased new loader and that didn't help. I could not return it either. purchasing from them has been a learning experience.

just looking at the poll results. only thing that comes to my mind is, what a piece of junk.

mine still works, with a new loader and with the region free change. however, since i subscribed to VOOM, haven't watched DVD's much.

larryep:
I have one of the first D1s and although I did send it back to them once, it still keeps going and going and going... I'm hoping it holds out until a viable HD DVD successor emerges.

Amazing picture for under $200!

mnilan
it was a great picture. good luck with yours!

CRAP is winning 16 to 9!

bump

I've had one for 1.5 years. I added a LiteOn loader after about 6 months, and have only had minor loading problems that are usually resolved by simply re-opening and closing the disc tray.

I've run the Bravo D1 through some of the torture test images on AviaPro, and I am amazed at how well it performs for a $200 player.

At CES, I noticed that The Perfect Vision magazine gave the Bravo D2 an award for video performance.

Too bad that for want of a decent $10 power supply, the Bravo is a hero on performance but a goat on reliability.

D1 still going strong. Replaced original loader with Lite-On 167T because of freeze ups.

D1 still working but not fine. I think you need to add this choice

ALMOST 60% have quit working, WOW! Wonder if this percentage is close to their complete distribution.

My D1 worked OK for 21 months (stunning picture, of course), although the loader performance slowed down and became more finicky over time. A power supply capacitor failed a few weeks ago, so I sent the board to V Inc. for repair. I had the fixed board back in less than two weeks ($40). The V Inc. service department was actually pretty responsive for me via email. The power supply is back in and the D1 is up and running again.

I replaced the loader today with a IDE internal DVD-ROM reader I got for free on rebate from CompUSA last year and it is like a totally different machine now... very fast loading and function response. So far, it has loaded and played everything I've thrown at it without any problems at all. I'm hopeful this will extend the life of my unit several more years. I really enjoy the awesome DVI picture quality and have not come across anything better (I've tried the Zenith 318 and the Denon 1910).

It's too bad V Inc. didn't build them better to start with. They were really on to something as far as PQ goes.

Tip: don't buy a replacement loader from V Inc. They are junk.

gshelley61
what brand and model number was that dvd rom?


mine is just sitting in closet. not sure what i want to do. I have been putting it off to get fixed. been waiting for the network players to come out.
i do miss that picture quality. It is ashame they didn't get it right the first time. I would of payed 300. they could of put a stellar rom and long lasting power supply in it.

Originally posted by larryep
gshelley61
what brand and model number was that dvd rom?


mine is just sitting in closet. not sure what i want to do. I have been putting it off to get fixed. been waiting for the network players to come out.
i do miss that picture quality. It is ashame they didn't get it right the first time. I would of payed 300. they could of put a stellar rom and long lasting power supply in it.

I have a Memorex DVD-16X6S installed in the Bravo. It's probably a rebadged Lite-On. There's a great thread with pictures and lots of info about how to do this here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=284831

I just unplugged and removed the stock loader and then simply plugged in the DVD-ROM and it is working really great so far. I didn't update the firmware as suggested in the thread. To get the power supply board fixed, email tech support at V Inc. and tell them you'd like to send just the board in for repair. It's way cheaper to do it that way... if you send the whole unit, the cost is $80. Removing and installing the power supply board is very easy.

My first D1 died after a year. I sent it in under the warranty and got it replaced with a brand new one - which died in 6 months.

When this second one died, I called and emailed Vinc several times with a request for an RMA. Despite several attempts to contact them, they have not gotten back to me, which, to me, is totally unacceptable. I was going to stick with the Bravo, perhaps even upgrade to the D2. Now (and I hope Vinc is reading this) F' Them. I'm buying the Denon 5910 (and selling my Denon 2900, and throwing my D1 off my roof).

Denon should thank Vinc for my business.

v inc had a good thing going, but there possibilities with me purchasing there equipment, WENT POOF, like there d1!

Mine died a month or two after the warranty expired :mad: . . . it had a very good picture while it lasted. Just for fun I took it to a local video shop to see what they could do, but too much would have to be replaced, costing more than a new player, so I gave up. I'm on the hunt for a upscaling DVD player w/DVI out. . .

Best,

JW

I dont know what people expect from a feature laden machine that was dirt cheap. At the time when they 1st came out, were there any cheaper machines with the same features? YOu had to know that there was going to be gotchas with that combination. No different than APEX, or Cyberhome, or any of the other 10-15 "crapsonic" brands loaded with high end features for bargain basement prices...

I don't think merely asking a player to not lock up and be able to read discs to be expecting "too much", bargain price for the features or not.

I have been able to fix mine by getting V Inc. to repair the power supply, then I replaced their crappy stock loader with a standard computer IDE internal DVD-ROM reader. Now it works better than when it was new.

But, I wouldn't buy another new product from them. They should have made them a little sturdier and charged an extra $50 or something.

Mine died with a power supply issue (the "Hello" of death) after 15 months. I never replaced the loader and had issues with inconsistancy but the picture was amazing.

HERE's the REAL question....what are people replacing the dead D1 coaster with?

I'm thinking about the Oppo that people are talking about but am anxious about jumping into the ground level on a new product again although the results sound good, new firmware is being generated, and the price is right. The D2 is out in my mind as is the Sammy 841...Denon 1910, Sony 975 are also in play but Oppo wins on price point (and picture if the reports are accurate).

My D1 died after about 15 months...the "grind of death". This was the 2nd unit...1st replaced under warranty because the unit would not stay open, I had to hold the tray while loading or removing a DVD. Replaced it with a Denon 3910.

jack

My first D1 died after 11 months of so-so performance. I have got replacement, one from the late development. I actually had option D1 or D2 for extra $. Not a glitch since. Average use 2-3 DVDs a week. Custom resolution with plasma plus region free, Macrovision free (thanks to this forum) amazing PQ. Probably wouldn't buy another Vinc player so. Look forward to replace it with Mac mini :)
Alexander

I checked into replacing my D1 and wound up buying and testing a Zenith 318 and the Denon 1910. They were not superior in PQ to the Bravo, and had their problems (stretched 4:3 material, macroblocking, etc.) The Panny S97 is basically unavailable, and the Sony 975 is too new to judge yet. The Samsung units are crap, too. The Oppo might work out after firmware is released that fixes all of the bugs it has, but I can't see buying one now and hoping the flaws are addressed later. And the Momitsu? Another unit with a spotty reliability record. The high end Denon units are out of my price range (I have small children, so I can't risk having them fool around with a $1000 player).

For $40 (the fee to repair the power supply), I went ahead and fixed my D1. The DVD-ROM reader I installed was free from a CompUSA rebate deal. Until something reasonably priced comes along that is definitely better, I'll keep the Bravo running.

My D1 is working fine. It has the best picture of the players I have tried. I have viewed over 100 movies on it.

If anyone wants to sell their dead D2, I'd be interested in buying and repairing it. (PM me)

- Hunter

First production run D1, running strong, with the custom scaling for my plasma, nothing else has beat it. I also have a Denon 3800 and Denon 2910. The 2910 is bug ridden 16 ways from Christmas with like 5 firmware updates in 4 months. The 3910's recent firmware release update is trashing 3910s left and right so bad they are having to be sent back to Denon in numbers. The 5910 , I just read that the Denon link does not work and thats Denons brand new high end expensive dvd player . And not to leave out he 1910, it has just about the worst macroblocking and green push I ever saw, right after the 2910.


Now, having said all that, firmware updates have greatly lessened the green push and macroblocking on all 3 of those Denons, but its taken 4 months, and the 1910 is still not anywhere near what it should be. I suspect the 1910 probably will never amount to much simply because without any of the extra hardware/tweaking that went into the 2910/3910 there are as many ways to fix or filter the 2310's green push and black macroblocking issues. I had a 1910 briefly, the Borg in Star Trek are green, but not THAT green, and everything else was green too, that 1910 was raced back to the store for return in my car, I was horrified as Denon puts out such great hardware usually. I still have a 3802 and 3805 for recievers.

The Faroujda 2310 chipset is mostly to blame as most every dvd player brand out with that chipset has the same issues. I have owned several other Denon dvd players and high end recievers and love them and STILL use them daily.

The 699$ plus tax I spent for my the Denon 2910 gained me nothing perfomance-wise and Denon HAD 2 more years plus to improve on the Bravo D1 and did not. They actually took a few steps backward.

I think this Bravo bashing is a bit overblown as we aren't hearing from the people who have no reason to read or post as they don't have problems and are happy with their units. I do support the right to post if you issues , as I do and did in this post about my new Denon gear, I just think its a little one-sided perspective wise.

I agree. I did a direct comparision of the Bravo D1 and the Denon 2910 using some patterns from AviaPro (DVI connection), and my conclusion is that the Bravo has a slight advantage for picture quality. However, the Denon does have a big advantage over the Bravo for sound quality and reliability over the Bravo, which often requires a "re-boot" to work correctly.

I will say that the Denon is a major improvement in PQ over the Samsung 931 DVD player.

For my dedicated home theater (BenQ 8700 projector), I decided to keep the Bravo there and to use the Denon for my family room theater (Samsung HLN DLP).

My D1 had problems the first month and the new loader from Bravo fixed that. It is still going strong. Every once in a while it would need a reboot but that was about it. With the addition of an Infocus 7205 projector it still was good. When I got a 2910 I would see things, namely colors that were not there on the D1(colors that were supposed to be there). The black level was much better on the 2910 also.
I still give a two thumbs up to the Bravo. For a year and a half to me it was the king of the inexpensive players.

Mine never died, but it's boxed up and being shipped off to its new owner. The D1 was good at one thing and one thing only. The picture was great, due to its fine upscaling ability, but everything else about it was incredibly poor. From the interface, to the remote, to the loader behavior, it all drove me nuts. Most dics took multiple attempts to get them loaded. I never successfully played my extended version of "The Two Towers" on that machine. After more than a year of fighting with the thing, I've gone back to my old '97 Sony [interlaced] player. That's right, the D1 was so bad that I'm no longer willing to endure the quirks to get the PQ.

So now for the million dollar question (or probably more like the $299 question) - what machine do I buy to avoid all this hassle, and just watch movies at high res with good sound? Denon, Momitsu, Zenith, Sony, Help!

Originally posted by neverdone
Mine never died, but it's boxed up and being shipped off to its new owner. The D1 was good at one thing and one thing only. The picture was great, due to its fine upscaling ability, but everything else about it was incredibly poor. From the interface, to the remote, to the loader behavior, it all drove me nuts. Most dics took multiple attempts to get them loaded. I never successfully played my extended version of "The Two Towers" on that machine. After more than a year of fighting with the thing, I've gone back to my old '97 Sony [interlaced] player. That's right, the D1 was so bad that I'm no longer willing to endure the quirks to get the PQ.

So now for the million dollar question (or probably more like the $299 question) - what machine do I buy to avoid all this hassle, and just watch movies at high res with good sound? Denon, Momitsu, Zenith, Sony, Help!

The Bravo D2 from Target.com of course.;)

Originally posted by ZZtop
The Bravo D2 from Target.com of course.;)

Maybe I'm missing it but, on the Target web site, there's no check out to buy the D2. Is it back ordered, or am I doing something wrong?

I really want to get it.

Originally posted by vitod
Maybe I'm missing it but, on the Target web site, there's no check out to buy the D2. Is it back ordered, or am I doing something wrong?

I really want to get it.

The Target.com link I have shows it will be available in 4-8 weeks. I don't know 4-8 weeks from when or how long that message has been there.

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-1/qid=/ref=sr_1_1/601-3957647-3966540?%5Fencoding=UTF8&asin=B0006IULHS

Chris

Originally posted by neverdone

So now for the million dollar question (or probably more like the $299 question) - what machine do I buy to avoid all this hassle, and just watch movies at high res with good sound? Denon, Momitsu, Zenith, Sony, Help!

Replaced mine with a Samsung 841..PQ was crap so I got the Oppo HD971. Software upgrades two weeks after I got mine fixed the only gltich my unit. Excellent build, excellent loader, excellent PQ, excellent audio, so-so remote, outstanding price, outstanding customer support. A winner in my book. My only problem is feeling guilty about using a $200 player with my $15K system!

But the Oppo doesn't support custom resolutions, no? I kinda figured that was pretty much the one thing that really separates the D1/2 and V880 from the pack.

- Hunter

I'm going to bring in my D1 to a computer guy I know. I'm letting him change the loader and power supply. Let's see what happens.

Fingers crossed.

I contacted Target and spoke with one on the managers for the internet only products. Target has no idea when they will get these players in.
If they feel the mfg. is not producing the product in accordance to their guidelines they will soon drop the product all together.
Not good. Exchanges are pretty easy with Target, but if they cant get the units you can xchange them.

Does anyone want to sell/give me their dead Bravo D1? PM me if you do!Maybe you should tell them for under $2 they can swap out the bad capacitor and give new life to their beloved Bravo D1's... :)

holy cow a year later and this thread has been revived! :eek: i really liked the D1 when it worked.

Maybe you should tell them for under $2 they can swap out the bad capacitor and give new life to their beloved Bravo D1's... :)

You know I guess the moderators don't like people asking for other peoples junk on this forum..... Every where I posted... it was deleted.... not sure why, but whatever.

Anyways.... since I'm not allowed to ask for your junk... you can fix your junk with a new capacitor

I replaced a bad power supply capacitor (c1022 - the one that is prone to failure) with a higher voltage one from Radio Shack. The D1 works just fine now even with an original FUSS loader. The picture is great.

I hate seeing this thread revived, since it just brings back bad memories of how my D1 bit the dust a month after the warranty expired.

I hate seeing this thread revived, since it just brings back bad memories of how my D1 bit the dust a month after the warranty expired.

Those bad memories can all go away! Go to the 'InFocus 4805 (854x480) and Vinc. Bravo D1 Specific Thread' in the under $3500 forum and you will find out how to revive your player. Of course you could just send it to me... I'll take it off your hands :D Lucky for you though it only costs $2 to fix.

Those bad memories can all go away! Go to the 'InFocus 4805 (854x480) and Vinc. Bravo D1 Specific Thread' in the under $3500 forum and you will find out how to revive your player. Of course you could just send it to me... I'll take it off your hands :D Lucky for you though it only costs $2 to fix.

I think I literally threw it in the trash when I moved!

:mad:

I think I literally threw it in the trash when I moved!

:mad:OUCH!!

any pics. on the location of this capacitor. I think I still have mine.

any pics. on the location of this capacitor. I think I still have mine.

Bravo D1 Fixed (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=660701) Go to post #4..... welcome back

thanks nate358. i have been out of the loop with this thread. now i must go find where i put the d1.

Thread over in the LCD and plasma display section about how poor their quality is for those products too.

I bought a D1 about 3 years ago. Less than half the DVD's would play and the loader broke in three months. V,Inc replaced it. About 60% of the DVD's played on the second unit and the loader broke on it after another 6 months. They replaced it again. About 75% of the discs would play on it but VOILA! - the loader on it broke after four months. They then offered to replace it with the D2 (brand new at the time) for ONLY $200! If I lived close to CA I might have done something violent. NEVER buy from this company (V, Inc.)!!!!

Bought a Samsung 841 and it died after 13 months. Using a $20 APEX until my new OPPO comes in! Keeping my fingers crossed!

larryep,
Can you reconsider the main issue of the poll for this:
"After doing the Capacitor C1022 change"...is it still working or not??

larryep,
Can you reconsider the main issue of the poll for this:
"After doing the Capacitor C1022 change"...is it still working or not??

I'm sorry but the arrogance of sum people amaze me...cavu has gone to various other threads singing the praises of the D1 'saying all you need is a $1.95 capacitor' to make things perfect.

Here's a little clue for cavu....it should of never come to that...VINC should have recalled the D1 and replaced the faulty capacitor for free minus shipping and handling (funny how Jim Noyd was nowhere to be found when the "wondrous' D1 starting failing left and right). My D1 went out a year and a half ago, all anyone knew about at that time was the loader. I replaced the loader and still nothing. Ended up in the trash. To come back and to these boards and chide us for "not hanging on to our D1's" is BS. Why isn't anyone hold VINC and Jim Noyd accountable?

I've moved past this for the most part and am saving my pennies for the OPPO 971. I know with the OPPO what I am getting and the CS is second to none. I'll take that anyday and twice on Sunday rather than be an unpaid beta tester like I was with the Bravo D1.

I'll tell you one thing: my experience with my D1 told me all I need to know about this company, and I would never consider purchasing any of their products, including TV's (some of which are sold at my local Costco).

Interesting.

My D1 has played every DVD and still works after approximately 3 years.

With that said, the conflict with my Pioneer Receiver is a little annoying. Anyone aware of a fix for that?

Blast from the past, this thread made me laugh!, a $1.79 caacitor would of fixed all of them, and most threw them out in the trash!!...hahaha
Where's Cavu?

larryep,
Can you reconsider the main issue of the poll for this:
"After doing the Capacitor C1022 change"...is it still working or not??

I realized i didn't keep it either and pitched it. It would of been nice to see it working again. O well. the new hd dvd players helps forget about the vinc.

You know, I decided to buy an Oppo 970 because I was afraid the D1 give me some problems, like the energy supply (known to be solved by the capacitor change) or the loader. Three month of use....and I have skipping problems. Holy Mother of God!!
I know think it's a question of good luck. All are cheap machines, made of cheap things.
I remember paying $600 in 1998 for my first Toshiba entry level player, now a similar machine does not go futher than $60...