nhey

I think hifi59's XBR is a LCD rear projector due to the reference to no dead pixels. That would make the comparison different than a CRT.

Originally posted by JimP
nhey

I think hifi59's XBR is a LCD rear projector due to the reference to no dead pixels. That would make the comparison different than a CRT.

Yes, my mistake. You're right. Now I better understand some of his comments.

HiFi, was this a side-by-side comparison?

HiFi59....How did you check for the "dirt"? I did see your post in the other thread and did wonder.

I also have Hitachi Plasma sets and they have a mode that puts up a White screen. Easy to see if there were any dead pixels. Is there something I can run on my Q when it comes next week to check?

TIA.
Dave

Originally posted by Zechman
Please note the time and date.

Zechman is now a Qualia 006 owner.

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread, already in progress.

:D :D :D :D :D :D

--Dwayne

Now where the hell did that truck go? It was just here a minute ago . . . .

WOOTTT!!!! Big Grats!

Originally posted by kanebear
The balanced version of this (http://ultimateavmag.com/surroundsoundpreampprocessors/36/) with an update (http://ultimateavmag.com/surroundsoundpreampprocessors/205lexicon/) to do auto low frequency room-EQ.

i suddenly feel better about my recent purchasing spree...when my wife questions my purchases i'll point her to your link :D

brt3.


What we are experiencing on the slight (and I mean very slight) vertical banding is likely either a ground problem with our home power which is easily fixed, or a ground loop with the cable. I am seeding remedy even though you have to get up and go hunting to see it just knowing it is there causes me to want to eliminate it. Will post up any findings I may make.

Are you seeing it both on HDMI and component. Also see if you see it on another source such as your DVD. Also put in a DVD and when you get the black screen pause it and see if you see any moving artifacts.

Sounds like this may be an electrical issue and if so can be fixed in a straightforward manner.

Talked to the Time Warner guy and he said on the Scientific Atlanta 8300HD that when you have all the various boxes checkd 480i 480p 720p 1080i then the box automatically passes whatever signal it gets through. Anyone who knows this box have an opinion if this is correct.

He also suggested to send a composit or S signal out of the back of the 8300HD to another input on the TV and switch inputs to watch the 480i channels. This way he said it should let the TV do its scaling to the signal without the 8300HD mucking with it beforehand.

thx

Originally posted by MotorMouth777
Talked to the Time Warner guy and he said on the Scientific Atlanta 8300HD that when you have all the various boxes checkd 480i 480p 720p 1080i then the box automatically passes whatever signal it gets through. Anyone who knows this box have an opinion if this is correct.

He also suggested to send a composit or S signal out of the back of the 8300HD to another input on the TV and switch inputs to watch the 480i channels. This way he said it should let the TV do its scaling to the signal without the 8300HD mucking with it beforehand.

thx

the only way the 8300hd passes through the signal is when it is set to do so in the general settings. i have less than all the signal selected (i removed both versions of 480i since it looks lousy on my samsung dlp); as such, when it encounters a 480i signal it sends 480p.

Thats just precious....................The local Time Warner cable guys don't even know their own equipment.


That's what I get for actually waiting 20 minutes on the phone to talk to them.

Originally posted by Zechman
Please note the time and date.

Zechman is now a Qualia 006 owner.

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread, already in progress.

:D :D :D :D :D :D

--Dwayne

Now where the hell did that truck go? It was just here a minute ago . . . .

Congratulations! Now it's time to rent some of those DVD's you liked in the
past. We just sat there going "WOW" and "it's better than the movies!".
The dvd "RAY" was a lot of fun because of the great picture and music.
"Master and Commander" was good also. I also liked the animation "Spirited
Away".

Have fun.

Dilbert1

Nhey..my source is direct tv with the hd pkg.

Mpsan...i first noticed the dust when viewing the qualia at a high end store. it was during a bright scene. i was 8-9 ft away. upon closer inspection i saw 4 more. 2 rather large ones and 3 smaller ones. they looked embedded in the display. i thought they were dead pixels, but dead pixels i understand are all the same size. so it must be dust somewhere in the light path /lens.

Originally posted by MotorMouth777
brt3.


What we are experiencing on the slight (and I mean very slight) vertical banding is likely either a ground problem with our home power which is easily fixed, or a ground loop with the cable. I am seeding remedy even though you have to get up and go hunting to see it just knowing it is there causes me to want to eliminate it. Will post up any findings I may make.

Are you seeing it both on HDMI and component. Also see if you see it on another source such as your DVD. Also put in a DVD and when you get the black screen pause it and see if you see any moving artifacts.

Sounds like this may be an electrical issue and if so can be fixed in a straightforward manner.

I thought it was something along those lines as well but what I am noticing is
more production dependent. It may have something to do with a flaw in the way
the data is processed.

In any case I don't, at this time, think it has to do with the Qualia. Of course
what I am noticing may not be the same as what you are noticing. I occasionally see very faint thin, fuzzy, vertical stripes in light solid backgrounds. I don't remember seeing them on DVD and I don't see them on all HDMI HD content via my Dish Network receiver.

This display is good enough to reproduce any defect in the source material.

Dilbert1

My DVD connection is HDMI as well. I think I saw them when I was using
component a long time ago. This is why it is important to write down anything
you notice.

Dilbert1

on the subject of vertical banding, i did notice it on the 006 the store had on display on bright scenes. this was somewhat of a concern with me. i can say that on the unit i have, i notice no banding at all. the lighting in my home is very close to what the store's lighting is. this was just icing on the cake. i think i could have lived with it, because i used to see it on my 60" xbr lcd at times.

OK, I just wondered if there was a builtin screen to check it but I guess I will have to wait for a scene, as you said.

I guess I now just need a 5M Optical cable for Q>>Proc audio. Supposed to have the Q inhouse April 13.



Originally posted by hifi59
Nhey..my source is direct tv with the hd pkg.

Mpsan...i first noticed the dust when viewing the qualia at a high end store. it was during a bright scene. i was 8-9 ft away. upon closer inspection i saw 4 more. 2 rather large ones and 3 smaller ones. they looked embedded in the display. i thought they were dead pixels, but dead pixels i understand are all the same size. so it must be dust somewhere in the light path /lens.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Zechman
[B]Please note the time and date.

Zechman is now a Qualia 006 owner.

Now back to your regularly scheduled thread, already in progress.

:D :D :D :D :D :D

--Dwayne

OK Dwayne, check your front lawn. There will probably be one great BIG guy and one white-bearded guy lurking on your front lawn, just waiting to get invited in, day or night ! :D

Originally posted by hifi59
Nhey..my source is direct tv with the hd pkg.

Mpsan...i first noticed the dust when viewing the qualia at a high end store. it was during a bright scene. i was 8-9 ft away. upon closer inspection i saw 4 more. 2 rather large ones and 3 smaller ones. they looked embedded in the display. i thought they were dead pixels, but dead pixels i understand are all the same size. so it must be dust somewhere in the light path /lens.

Their "clean room" isn't as clean as it should be I see a few bits of dirt or something stuck to the inside of my screen as well. I have seen this before with Sony rear projection tvs - if lucky you can just brush them off from the inside but its still annoying that their quality control isn't what it should be.

Congratulations Zechman, we know you've been first waiting to decide to buy for awhile, then the wait for the delivery.

thesirjay, check your email! :D

Originally posted by mpsan
I also have Hitachi Plasma sets and they have a mode that puts up a White screen. Easy to see if there were any dead pixels. Is there something I can run on my Q when it comes next week to check? -- Dave

Try using DVE (Digital Video Essentials), in either DVD or D-VHS format. This test disc/tape has several uniform field screens ranging from all white to all black, with several colors as well....

Can any of the first wavers comment on the dust issue the second wavers seem to be noticing on the 006?

Originally posted by brt3
rcohen,

On my set there's no way it's digital compression. Instead of a "blocky" look I'm seeing vertical banding that's composed of static-like noise. They are evenly spaced across the width of the screen; I'd guess you have something like 1/2 inch of a noise band, then 1/2 inch where the screen is clear, then 1/2 inch of a noise band -- all the way across the screeen. Is this what you saw on your Qualia?
No. I had 1 pixel lines about 1" apart. They were slightly lighter than the other pixels. Also, the lines were visible on all inputs and no inputs. When I scaled the picture in twin mode, the lines were static on the screen. They did not move with the picture.

Since your lines only happen with your cable input, it might be a problem with your cable box.

Originally posted by nhey
rcohen - very glad to hear that Sony fixed your problem. Did your repair guys have to order the part from Sony? How long did it take from first report of the problem to the repair?
4-5 weeks. Sony sent a repair tech out in less than a week, but the part I needed wasn't available. They were about to replace the whole TV, when the part became available. Works for me.

I wonder if I need to have the set calibrated, though.

Originally posted by brt3
BTW, I'm not trying to start a "my wife is better than yours" p*ssing contest...
May I suggest sexy pics, posing with the Qualia, to keep it on topic, of course. :D

My once a day visit. Thanks BenDover for your help. I've done all the "output selection" and "settings" you suggest. On my 8300 box, with the HDMI connected, only"fixed" is available under picture format. I'll try your suggestion for "unsticking" the 8300. Different Cable carriers have selected different software and it may be that TW Houston has specified (or not updated) a version that does not support pass thru on HDMI.

For KADAKU-- I don't think this 8300 box HDMI issue applies to your DVD player. The problem is unique to the sending device, not the Q 006, so your DVD player will control what signal is sent to the Q 006.

I'm off to take everything apart to install the center speaker "shelf"

has anyone experienced any issues with the remote. in particular, hitting "menu" on the remote does not result in the onscreen menu appearing.

zman, congrats resist the temption to call in sick to work to watch q
vision
divedude, hope you are feeling better, we all know you are out there silently snorkling by from time to time

Originally posted by dpc123
Can any of the first wavers comment on the dust issue the second wavers seem to be noticing on the 006?

No dust here, but it has been covered since day 1. The seals on the Q006 look pretty good. My old Sony 70" LCD RPTV, now that's another story.

It's utterly astonishing how slow this thread is without JB007, Penton, Diver, Colortv et al... as cheesy as this will sound, COME BACK I MISS YA!

Ted99, thanks for the reply!

Apache1,
No, I've had no problem with my remote, especially with the menu buttom, which is probably what I use the most.

Someone was suppose to have their unit calibrated on 4/4/05. Was that you nhey? I am very,very curious on how much the Q006 can be improve with such calibration before I have one done.

Everyone: Thanks for the congratulations. This TV is just amazing.

Pictures will follow later this evening.

Originally posted by apache1
zman, congrats resist the temption to call in sick to work to watch q
vision

Um, actually I didn't go to work yesterday. :cool:

The only down-side, which I expected, was that you can definitely see reflections of the large window that's on the wall that the Qualia faces. Same goes for lamps in the room. Not a problem for bright pictures, but visible in dark sections of the screen.

It's not that the screen is super-reflective on a "per square inch" basis--it's not. The problem is that the screen is over five times the surface area of the TV it replaced. I'm still playing with Avia to get the brightest possible picture.

But that's the only down-side.

--Dwayne

Originally posted by kaduku
Ted99, thanks for the reply!

Apache1,
No, I've had no problem with my remote, especially with the menu buttom, which is probably what I use the most.

Someone was suppose to have their unit calibrated on 4/4/05. Was that you nhey? I am very,very curious on how much the Q006 can be improve with such calibration before I have one done.


Yes, that's me. Calibration scheduled for May 4.

Originally posted by nhey
Yes, that's me. Calibration scheduled for May 4.

Sorry about that. This person must be that good to wait so long. Unless someone else gets their unit calibrated sooner, I will wait for your results.

Originally posted by apache1
has anyone experienced any issues with the remote. in particular, hitting "menu" on the remote does not result in the onscreen menu appearing.


I have noticed that happening at times too, annoying but if you hit enough buttons it eventually snaps out of it. No clue what the problem is its almost like it is busy and eventually it frees up. I notice the remote is pretty wimpy in terms of range/direction. Considering how heavy the thing is you would think they would boost their signal a bit more so you didn't have to worry about the TV picking up on it. I wonder if any of the Universal remote people have same problem or if the Harmony etc provide a strong enough signal that the Qualia never ignores it....

Thank you. I have Avia...perhaps it has it too!

Originally posted by brt3
Try using DVE (Digital Video Essentials), in either DVD or D-VHS format. This test disc/tape has several uniform field screens ranging from all white to all black, with several colors as well....

It does.

Anyone picking up the Cleveland - White Sox game on WGN HD ... it looks great on my Sony 36XBR400 - I am sure that it would look spectacular on the Qualia!

Thanks, I will look for it.

Originally posted by mark haflich
It does.

Originally posted by apache1
has anyone experienced any issues with the remote. in particular, hitting "menu" on the remote does not result in the onscreen menu appearing.
I'm using a universal remote, and I haven't noticed any weirdness. BTW, a good universal remote is well worth it, for other reasons.

Had to cancel my first calibration appointment, that's why it's taking so long.

Yes, get a universal remote. You'll then be able to program direct access to each input. I love my Home Theater Master 800. I prefer buttons, so I don't have to actually look at the remote to change inputs, etc., which you have to do with a Pronto, and it has plenty of them. Well worth the price. Harmony is also good (have that one also for my direct view set), and probably the best choice for family members, since easiest to use.

Since my Q stand is being delivered soon I took this opportunity to express my concerns with the performance of Yellow deliveries. In response I received the following (I think someone posted something similar):

"Yes there were problems in the past that caused me and customers much frusteration. I have talked with Yellow for many hours and they made the corrections they needed and I have made the corrections that I needed. Now with all deliveries instead of Yellow delivering them themselves they are having professional movers take the pieces inside your house to the desired room. They will not unpack the piece though. "

Originally posted by dpc123
Can any of the first wavers comment on the dust issue the second wavers seem to be noticing on the 006?

No dust here.

Dilbert1

No dust here either.

I tried to hook up my Mac-Mini to my Q006 and all I get is a green screen. I am using input 6 with a DVI to HDMI cable. Could this be that the weenie video card in the Mini is too pathetic to output anything the Q006 can recognize or is it possible I am mucking it some in some other fashon.

I bought the little thing just to display our digital pictures on the Monster. Will be a bummer if I can't get it to work as intended.


Zechman or anyone.............any thoughts?

Originally posted by MotorMouth777
I tried to hook up my Mac-Mini to my Q006 and all I get is a green screen. I am using input 6 with a DVI to HDMI cable. Could this be that the weenie video card in the Mini is too pathetic to output anything the Q006 can recognize or is it possible I am mucking it some in some other fashon.

I bought the little thing just to display our digital pictures on the Monster. Will be a bummer if I can't get it to work as intended.


Zechman or anyone.............any thoughts?

MM,
I've thought about this also, instead of me buying a more expensive HTPC. I am thinking that it is the non-sufficient video card in the mini. If this does not work then maybe just buying a less expensive Roku might just do the job, but will wait for someone to give more input on this.

MM,
What resolution are you setting the Mac's graphics card to? I am using a Windows PC with an nvidia graphics card set to 1080i with good results. I am also able to set the resolution to 720p and this works ok also. In my quest to get 1080/24psf, I've tried about 30 different combinations of resolutions,refresh,etc with no luck yet. I ordered a vga-component transcoder to see if I have any better luck with that setup. You should probably have a pc monitor next to the 006 when experimenting. Try and get 720p working on the pc monitor 1st then switch over to the 006. I'm not that familiar with the mac world but my wife has the new i-mac g5 that I will see how to tweak that one. It may use a different graphics card than the mini though. You should also check the htpc forums. I think they even have a separate section for the mac now.
brgds,
jp

Originally posted by MotorMouth777
I tried to hook up my Mac-Mini to my Q006 and all I get is a green screen. I am using input 6 with a DVI to HDMI cable. Could this be that the weenie video card in the Mini is too pathetic to output anything the Q006 can recognize or is it possible I am mucking it some in some other fashon.

I bought the little thing just to display our digital pictures on the Monster. Will be a bummer if I can't get it to work as intended.


Zechman or anyone.............any thoughts?

Tell you what I did. I burned a ton of photos to a cd and then using my Denon 5900 to play the still images on my TV.

Check your DVD player. It might have that capability too.

Motor, are you going to play any movie's off the mini? Usually the mac's will auto detect digital displays through DVI, I have a G5 hooked up to my hlp5085 through a HDMI to DVI cable the setting are 1280X720@60 I have got 1080I to work as well. You might have to use some extra programs like switchres or something, but best advice it what was already said. Hook it up to a monitor if posible and confirm 1080i then hook it to the Q006.

i guess zech can't be torn from his new toy...didn't he promise pics this evening ??? :)

Should we start a countdown for UMR working on Ted's 006?? Just kidding, but I am anxious to see what he has to say.

I should have something to post on Sunday. I will probably start a new thread since I am not an owner.

Originally posted by BenDover
i guess zech can't be torn from his new toy...didn't he promise pics this evening ??? :)
Yup, you hit it right on the head. I did watch American Idol last night and I see what you guys mean about that show's picture quality. I think AI is the clearest, most detailed picture I've seen on the Q006 yet!

I also repurposed the shipping carton it came in to block out the big bay window that I mentioned before (Where else can I get two pieces of cardboard that can cover a 9'x6' area?) and that made all the difference. Mrs. Zechman isn't too thrilled, but it's only temporary.

Anyone have any recommendations on where I can get an opaque curtain 6' tall and 9' wide?

--Dwayne

Originally posted by MotorMouth777
I tried to hook up my Mac-Mini to my Q006 and all I get is a green screen. I am using input 6 with a DVI to HDMI cable. Could this be that the weenie video card in the Mini is too pathetic to output anything the Q006 can recognize or is it possible I am mucking it some in some other fashon.

I bought the little thing just to display our digital pictures on the Monster. Will be a bummer if I can't get it to work as intended.


Zechman or anyone.............any thoughts?
I haven't started playing with a PC yet, but I'd suspect that the Qualia will only take HDTV resolutions, and not display any old VGA signal. Like absolutezerok said, I expect that you'd need to deliberately set up for 1280x720@60Hz or 1920x1080@30Hz with interlacing to see a picture.

I'm also curious if we can use firewire as an input from a PC instead of HDMI. I'll report my findings.

--Dwayne

Okay folks, here we go:

"Before"

The set that the Qualia replaced was a Samsung 30" direct CRT that I bought because it was inexpensive. Also noteworthy is the "half-wall" behind the set, which precludes me being able to do any kind of plasma or flat-panel LCD--nothing to hang it on.

--Dwayne

Next, the stand in its box and the three guys from Mark Haflich's shop that delivered it. I couldn't have asked for better delivery guys!

--Dwayne

The stand, in place, without the front bezel.

In the corner, the black thing next to the Donkey Konga bongos is the Belkin 1500VA UPS.

--Dwayne

The big box, approaching the front door.

--Dwayne

The big box, almost through the front door.

--Dwayne

Finally got it inside. Time to take a breather.

Also, your first good look at the Qualia's nemesis: the big bay window.

--Dwayne

Out of the box and on the stand.

--Dwayne

On the stand, and with the stand's bezel re-attached.

Also, through the front door, you can just barely make out the aforementioned 1994 Taurus SHO.

--Dwayne

A view of the back of the set.

Why look! What a perfect place to put a bias light!

(You certainly can't see the decorations there anymore from the living room.)

--Dwayne

A picture of me taking a picture of me on the screen taking a picture of me taking . . . .

(The camera's composite output connected to Video 2 up front.)

Didn't quite turn out like I'd hoped.

--Dwayne

Originally posted by Zechman
A view of the back of the set.

Why look! What a perfect place to put a bias light!

(You certainly can't see the decorations there anymore from the living room.)

--Dwayne



Congrats on the delivery.

Regarding the bias light, don't you need something for it to reflect off of??

An actual screen shot.

Okay, so technically, the first thing I saw on my Qualia was Dr. Phil because it was running on the lowest-numbered station after the set did its channel search.

The first thing I deliberately watched was the Matrix movies in 1080i from HBO HD, via component (my HDTiVo has a bad HDMI port). You can see clearly the reflections from the window. But to be fair, this is worst-case-scenario--an extremely sunny day with window larger than the 006's screen facing it from only 15' away.

Like I posted earlier, blacking out this window solves the problem entirely.

--Dwayne

Originally posted by JimP
Congrats on the delivery.

Regarding the bias light, don't you need something for it to reflect off of??
There is a wall on the opposite side of the stairway. It's just that it's 3 feet away from the "shelf" instead of right up against it. Prior to getting the Qualia, I would turn on the light in the stairway and that did an excellent job of providing some backlighting when otherwise watching in the dark.

--Dwayne

I ended up getting the set from Mark Haflich, because he unexpectedly got an extra unit and gave me a call. (I had talked to him over the weekend when the other local dealer I was working with decided to try to jack the price up in the 11th hour after I had already cancelled my order with DocDVD.)

Mark, and his delivery guys, were great to work with--I couldn't ask for better. AND, he gave the price I asked for. I look forward to meeting him face-to-face and shopping in his store. As far as I'm concerned, he's my hero. He could have just as easily bought the set for himself (so please don't tell his wife). ;)

So please stop dissing the guy. He's far more enthusiast than salesman. And I, for one, welcome him to this thread.

--Dwayne

Originally posted by Zechman
A view of the back of the set.



Hi Guys,
I am new to this forum but have been to the other HD forums. nowhere is there so much information on the 006 than here. There's also more passion here than at Mel Gibson's house too. Very much like "ColorTV" who can be found all over this forum, I work in Network broadcasting, deal with original HD footage, have seen the best possible pictures right out of the cameras, own an AVID HD Adrenaline ( avid.com) and love TV. I want to commend everyone here for every piece of information they've posted. Right down to the PDF manual.

I am waiting for my 006 which will be here by Mon or Tues, of next week. I currently (until Tues.) have the 62825 Mitsubishi DLP-RP. It's the second one, and they both stunk. Internal DVR DOA in the first one, Second set, White blotch on the screen. I watch HD original footage, and the Mitsubishi is unacceptable! Their concern was, "oh well, it's normal". Yea, for Cheep S#%T Mexican sets. You've all convinced me to look at the $13K Qualia 006, THANK YOU ALL! I only just saw it, way after I ordered it, but based upon your opinions and my research you all were contributers to the decision. It is true I could have canceled the order, but, it is also true on the 8th day God Created Qualia. At least Japan would have you believe it. So, it is absolutely true that this is the best set on the market, for now.

The bias, or back lighting is very important. I used the rear slope of the Mitsubishi cabinet to mount twin under counter lights. The slope allows you to hit the rear wall with some light wash. The 006 is just about the same slope so I'll be doing the same thing as I did with the Mits... read on. Since my wife paints, and she's really good, I have the lights hitting her painting which is way up on the wall in our screening room. So there's a dual function here, and I'm not washing a blank wall.

Home Depot has the kit, it's under $30 bucks. It comes with 3 hockey puck style lights, and a three position tap-touch sensitive dimmer for the intensity. Also get 2 rolls of 3M electrical tape (it comes in a Plastic Case- it's the case you really want!), some WIDE velcro that you can cut down. the Big Roll at Home Depot is also good.
You are going to use the TOPS of the electrical tape, and cut a small notch off the lip of the rim for the cable to go through. just wide enough for the cord. Velcro the light into the 3M cover, and then Velcro the 3M cover to the set back about 9 inches down, and equally across the back. Use ONLY two of lights, keep one for a spare. There's your back lighting -DONE! If your set is mounted in the wall, get two floor cans for wall washing, and in-line dimmers. that will work too. You can also get some ROSCO TV gel, and gel the lights to a deep amber in which the amber in contrast to the screen's Color Temp on a low dimmer setting will look great.

I just wanted to add my 2 cents :D and give back to you all.
If I can figure out how to post JPEGS, I'll get you some nice shots after delivery.

Thanks!!

EDITOR

Originally posted by editor58
Hi Guys,

...

I just wanted to add my 2 cents :D and give back to you all.
If I can figure out how to post JPEGS, I'll get you some nice shots after delivery.

Thanks!!

EDITOR

Welcome aboard the Qualia Express...

Originally posted by editor58
If I can figure out how to post JPEGS, I'll get you some nice shots after delivery.
It's easy. Just use the "Attach file:" field at the bottom when you post a reply.
In fact, today's the first time I've ever used it, so you can see that it's easy to do.

--Dwayne

Looks like some one has a Qualia for sale: http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?homevdeo&1118068261

A final report on my experience with the SA 8300HD and the Q 006. I can't unstick the "fixed" 1080i signal when using the HDMI connection. I have concluded that this is not enabled in the version of software used by TW Houston. Using component cables, I have no problem setting the box to "pass thru", and I have enabled all the resolutions, so the SA 8300HD now passes through the native resolution of the signal. My eye's memory does not see any difference between the HDMI and component connections on programs which are native 1080i, but the 720p programs do look better using the Qualia scaler, rather than the SA 8300HD scaler. There is alsos a visible improvement on all SD 480i material using the Qualia scaler. So, to my eye, I'm better off with the component connections and the D/A conversions, than the direct digital using the HDMI port. Too bad. I guess TW Houston decided to make things as simple as possible for their CSR's.

I did have one startling result. At UMR's suggestion, I connected my SD Tivo (Sony SAT T60) through the composite connection, rather than S-video; and the improvement was impressive! This is counterintuitive, to me; but it worked. The picture is much more film-like and movies jump out with more depth.

Originally posted by Zechman


So please stop dissing the guy....

--Dwayne

Glad to see you are enjoying your TV.

The only emotional thing people have to go on here is the tone of the post. In the beginning of this thread everyone was asking Mark to post and expressing respect for his opinions - there was no "dissing". I do not believe there would have been any issue nor do I believe there will be any issue if the sarcastic tone is removed - as it has been.

I am interested to hear Mark's comments as well as yours.

Dilbert1

Originally posted by Zechman
You can see clearly the reflections from the window. But to be fair, this is worst-case-scenario--an extremely sunny day with window larger than the 006's screen facing it from only 15' away.

Like I posted earlier, blacking out this window solves the problem entirely.

--Dwayne


Zechman: Thanks for posting the photos. They're very informative.

Your window (natural light) situation is remarkably similar to mine. My window coverings let in about the same amount of light as yours. My display is also about the same distance from the windows. Screen reflection was a concern, but PQ wash-out was an even bigger concern to me.

It's difficult to tell from a photo but the wash-out appears to be minimal. I guess you would need to post a photo of the same screen shot at night to let us see how the natural sunlight affects (other than screen reflection) the PQ.

Or you could just tell us.

Since you had a direct view display before, I'd be interested in the differences you perceive in PQ between the two....

Vertical and horizontal off-axis viewing, uniform brightness, quality of the PQ with video Vs film sources.....

In the past those who went from a wide-screen direct view to a RPTV were often disappointed with the difference in the quality of the picture. This has likely changed with the Q006. Also even if the PQ suffers in some respects, when compared to the direct view, I would think the screen size would make up for it.

Sorry, I tried to keep the post short, but I haven't asked any questions for a long time. :D

FYI-

I am selling my beloved Qualia 006 as plans have changed :(

Check it out on Audiogon/Videogon:

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?homevdeo&1118068261

James Elvick

Here's a really great interview from the "Secrets..." site. It's an interview with Mike Poirer of Algolith Technologies click here (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/videos/secrets-studios/mike-poirier-algolith-3-10-5/mike-poirier-algolith-3-10-05-index.html). This is a good discussion of compression artifacts, how Algolith tries to eliminate them, and the technology behind their two products -- the Mosquito and the Dragonfly click here (http://www.algolith.com/index.php?id=137).

Since the Qualia is so ruthless in displaying any flaws in source material, I have pre-ordered a Dragonfly. If you order both products they will be offering a combo at a $1,000 savings. He also mentions a new model of the Mosquito with 4 HDMI inputs -- think I may have to SuperSize my order...

Originally posted by Zechman
Okay, so technically, the first thing I saw on my Qualia was Dr. Phil because it was running on the lowest-numbered station after the set did its channel search.

That's OK Dwayne -- we're all friends here and you don't have to apologize for watching Dr. Phil...

:D

So, I'm assuming you're using a CableCard -- you like?

Originally posted by James Elvick
I am selling my beloved Qualia 006 as plans have changed :(

The horror... the horror...

Sad news to hear, but I bet you don't have any problems finding a buyer.

Originally posted by DOBE
Zechman: Thanks for posting the photos. They're very informative.

Your window (natural light) situation is remarkably similar to mine. My window coverings let in about the same amount of light as yours. My display is also about the same distance from the windows. Screen reflection was a concern, but PQ wash-out was an even bigger concern to me.

It's difficult to tell from a photo but the wash-out appears to be minimal. I guess you would need to post a photo of the same screen shot at night to let us see how the natural sunlight affects (other than screen reflection) the PQ.

Or you could just tell us.

Since you had a direct view display before, I'd be interested in the differences you perceive in PQ between the two....

Vertical and horizontal off-axis viewing, uniform brightness, quality of the PQ with video Vs film sources.....

In the past those who went from a wide-screen direct view to a RPTV were often disappointed with the difference in the quality of the picture. This has likely changed with the Q006. Also even if the PQ suffers in some respects, when compared to the direct view, I would think the screen size would make up for it.

Sorry, I tried to keep the post short, but I haven't asked any questions for a long time. :D
Hiya DOBE! I remember a while back when you were posting your concerns.

Wash-out is not really the problem as much as the reflections. Even in full daylight, the reflections are only marginally visible except on areas of the screen that are dark. In that respect, the photo seems to exaggerate the effect versus what I see when actually looking at it.

Those pictures were taken with pretty much default settings--I've tuned it a bit in Pro mode with Avia, and it's much better and brighter.

No question that this set is better in every way than the smaller ED CRT that preceded it. That includes black levels and contrast, although admittedly I've concentrated on the other direction--making the picture as bright as possible without washing out the whites.

Off-axis viewing is really good. I'd have to sit on the far end of the couch to the right of the set (looking at the screen) and lean over to see the picture darken. Vertically, I have to be standing in front of before it darkens. If I stand in the middle of the room or farther back, no issue. Honestly, for my room, the geometry is just right.

One thing that's interesting is that I can now see the difference in film versus HD video (like American Idol). In film, I can see the grain. Then again, for 1080i material, I find that I am able to read things (like street signs, newpaper headlines) in the shot that would have never been possible before. I chalk that up to the native 1920x1080 SXRD panel resolution. A friend who has a 55" Sony XS LCD set noticed this difference between the Qualia and the XS immediately.

The other thing that I wasn't expecting was just how bad crappy source material looks when you blow it up to 70" in size! It's really a night-and-day difference with HD material. Even Mrs. Zechman says (and I quote) "the HD stuff is totally ****ing awesome."

I think that means I get to keep it. :D

--Dwayne

Originally posted by brt3
So, I'm assuming you're using a CableCard -- you like?
No CableCard. Cox cable in this area totally blows.

I had connected my terrestrial antenna cable that normally goes to my HDTiVo to the antenna input to let it do its channel search, since that's what I was greeted with when I first turned it on. I have since reconnected the HDTiVo and I don't use the built-in tuner at all--but at least I verified that it works.

--Dwayne

Originally posted by Zechman
One thing that's interesting is that I can now see the difference in film versus HD video (like American Idol). In film, I can see the grain. Then again, for 1080i material, I find that I am able to read things (like street signs, newpaper headlines) in the shot that would have never been possible before.

This is one of the things that -- in my mind -- distinguishes the Qualia from almost every other display. I am constantly pausing (both DVDs and HD) content to read, for example, the note in an actors hand -- details that are just not resolved on most displays...

Originally posted by Zechman
Finally got it inside. Time to take a breather.

Also, your first good look at the Qualia's nemesis: the big bay window.

--Dwayne
Great pics !!

Originally posted by Zechman
Okay folks, here we go:

"Before"

The set that the Qualia replaced was a Samsung 30" direct CRT that I bought because it was inexpensive. Also noteworthy is the "half-wall" behind the set, which precludes me being able to do any kind of plasma or flat-panel LCD--nothing to hang it on.



Zech,
That is sure a big difference from the Sammy to the Q006. I am assuming the old tv is in some other room like the bedroom.

Originally posted by Zechman
Finally got it inside. Time to take a breather.

Also, your first good look at the Qualia's nemesis: the big bay window.



Dwayne, is that you?

Originally posted by editor58

I just wanted to add my 2 cents :D and give back to you all.
If I can figure out how to post JPEGS, I'll get you some nice shots after delivery.



editor58,
We welcome you and your expertise. Sounds like you and colortv have alot in common. Look forward to your review on the Q006.

Did any of you watch the Masters today? How did it look?

I recorded it on my HDTivo to watch later on my po' little 53" Pioneer Elite - I feel ashamed.

It must have been distorted. I saw Tiger putt off a green and into a creek and then I saw him hit a flagstaff on an approach shot and have the ball ricochet into a bunker. This couldn't of really happened. :}

Originally posted by James Elvick
FYI-

I am selling my beloved Qualia 006 as plans have changed :(

Check it out on Audiogon/Videogon:

http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?homevdeo&1118068261



Wow! what a deal! For those who were ready to buy at 10 grand then got discourage when the price was jacked up, here's your chance :D I would have jumped on this!

James,
Sorry you have to let go of your baby. let us know how fast it took to get this off your hands.

Originally posted by mark haflich
It must have been distorted. I saw Tiger putt off a green and into a creek and then I saw him hit a flagstaff on an approach shot and have the ball ricochet into a bunker. This couldn't of really happened. :}

...and you chased good people off this thread by claiming they posted dribble?

and now you post this OT garbage?

SHAME on you!

This thread really needs mod's intervention. It's beyond ridiculous.

Originally posted by kaduku
Dwayne, is that you?
(Referring to picture #6 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?postid=5445589&fullpage=1))

Nope, I'm the photographer--that's one of the installers. They had been teasing me about taking their pictures "to post on the Internet", so before clicking that one I said, "All right, anyone who doesn't want their picture taken, get out of the way." So the other two guys hopped away to the side while the one pictured decided to ham it up.

--Dwayne

So here's an interesting tidbit:

I brought my laptop that has Windows XP and a FireWire interface on it out to the living room, and plugged in a cable between the computer and the Qualia's front iLink interface.

"Found new hardware"

"Sony KDS-70Q006"

"Windows could not find a suitable driver...."

I suppose in theory Sony could release a 1394 display driver for the Qualia and you'd be able to connect it to a computer easily via the front iLink port just like a camcorder.

What do you suppose are the chances of THAT? :rolleyes:

But the computer did see it, and the TV did identify itself by name.

Not the least bit useful, but moderately interesting.

--Dwayne

Originally posted by kaduku
editor58,
We welcome you and your expertise. Sounds like you and colortv have alot in common. Look forward to your review on the Q006.

Thank You. My background is over 28+ years in Network Broadcasting, 15 spent at CBS. After 5 EMMYS, and with 80% of my sanity, I left CBS and opened NET ONE inc. We do commercials, Advertising, Doc's, just about everything in print, TV, and Web including DVD authoring.

I've never really met a TV I've liked. I tolerate my bedroom 32" XBR. The left corner has the infamous convergence issue. I had a Pioneer Elite 60" RP for many years. I kept it converged, and even replaced the high voltage and deflection boards. After an alignment with AVID created test patterns, the set actually looked way better than from the factory. I own a SONY Broadcast HDTV for our edit suite, and have worked with Conrac, Sony & Ikegami Broadcast monitors. I can pretty much do a set-up by eye, and come almost as close as a Spectra Analyzer if I have the right test patterns.

I have high hopes for the 006, but I will admit, I am a Video/Film, and coffee snob. As nasty as they get. I've called cameramen on the carpet for not white balancing their cameras. I've called producers A-holes, for not working smarter. I've done just about EVERY job in TV (that I wanted to) including Master Control. And when you work for the Networks, and you don't get that shot of Bush falling on his face... you don't work for them for a long time. So, like them, I have a ZERO tolerance for screw-ups. Mitsubishi was TWO for TWO in their New HOT 62" 825 series. Real garbage! I suppose, if you're in this forum, you're mostly like me; very anal about quality, will pay for, and expect the best, and have no tolerance for crap products, in the name of corporate greed. I LOVE YOU ALL!

I own the Fosgate FAP processor, Rotel for Power, Definitive Matched Speakers, The New Sony DVD with the HDMI output, SA Cable Box with HD-DVR, and a Cable Card for that extra TV input. It's really all I need. If only the YES network broadcast the Yankee Games in HD. It's a damn disgrace Mr. Steinbrenner! All that money spent and you give us a crappy picture! Shame on You!

For those of you with the 006, may your lamps burn bright for 10,000 hours! For those who are looking to buy one, you only live once, life is short, and your dead a really long time!

My authorized Qualia dealer (a really good friend too) set me up for a Monday delivery. Next I think I'll replace my RTI Remote T2 for a T3.

Thanks again for the warm welcome, as I get into this set, I'll report back some set-up details.

OO XX6

EDITOR

Hello everyone,
I've joined the Qualia Family too. I take delivery this Monday at 9:00 a.m. Soon after that the cable co. will install Cable Card and the DVR Cable Box. I've been following both threads since inception, and all of you have helped a great deal in my decision to jump in, sight unseen.

Today I saw the first review of our baby in the May issue of Sound & Vision. David Katzmaier concluded his review by saying the Qualia 006 takes a special place in the world because the image quality is significatly better than any large- screen plasma, single-chip DLP, standard LCD, or LCoS microdisplay he had ever seen.

So, for us who bought sight unseen, we have the best TV in the world.

editor58, glad you are here. My Q006 is being delivered next Wednesday at 3PM. I have Rotel as well...with a Meridian Proc and B&W all around. I also have a Sony 975 that I will unbox when I get the Q.

I do not like it when people screw up and they now seem to think that a simple "whatever" is OK!

So, since you, too, are a coffee snob, does this mean we are talking Bodum stuff? :D

Take care and I wish everyone would come back to the forum!

P.S. I wish Sony put Coax Digital and not just Optical for the audio out!

Originally posted by PQLover
Today I saw the first review of our baby in the May issue of Sound & Vision. David Katzmaier concluded his review by saying the Qualia 006 takes a special place in the world because the image quality is significatly better than any large-screen plasma, single-chip DLP, standard LCD, or LCoS microdisplay he had ever seen.

It's a pretty small universe if you leave out comparisons to CRT -- though I enjoy hearing good things about my set ANY critical comparison should address how the Q006 compares to the PQ standard-bearer, not the "latest-and-greatest" (but not quite perfected). Most digital display device reviews -- excepting those for very high-end items like the Q004 -- usually end in "does xxxx ALMOST as well as on a good CRT".

Please note -- I am a former CRT-snob who's thrilled with the performance of his Qualia...

brt3,
The reviewer in Sound & Vision used some your settings. He cited the following: Pro Mode, Warm, Color Space to Wide(different than yours),Cinema Black Pro On,Clear White off, Detail Enhancer off, Black Corrector off, and Color Corrector off. In the Pro Mode, warm setting, it was almost 6,500 k right out of the box. Amazing!

Originally posted by PQLover
In the Pro Mode, warm setting, it was almost 6,500 k right out of the box. Amazing!

PQ,

That is very good to hear -- we've all speculated this might be the case. Wonder how much tweaking the ISF guys can do to improve it? I'm guessing it will improve some with calibration, but I'm guessing the improvement will be fairly subtle and incremental...

Seems like my Mac Mini is too much of a wuss to get any kind of picture to the Q006. DVI to HDMI cable. Not sure why as it output a picture to my Plasma. Hmmmmm. Gonna try a new 17 inch powerbook. It should work since its the new one that can drive the 30 inch cinema wide at 2500 x 1600 resolution.

anyone who has put a mac on this beauty let me know if I need to do anything special or should it just go.

Originally posted by Zechman
So here's an interesting tidbit:

I brought my laptop that has Windows XP and a FireWire interface on it out to the living room, and plugged in a cable between the computer and the Qualia's front iLink interface.

"Found new hardware"

"Sony KDS-70Q006"

"Windows could not find a suitable driver...."

I suppose in theory Sony could release a 1394 display driver for the Qualia and you'd be able to connect it to a computer easily via the front iLink port just like a camcorder.

What do you suppose are the chances of THAT? :rolleyes:

But the computer did see it, and the TV did identify itself by name.

Not the least bit useful, but moderately interesting.

--Dwayne

Zech, give this a whirl:

http://www.vividlogic.com/products/dtvr_overview.html

Originally posted by PQLover

...

Today I saw the first review of our baby in the May issue of Sound & Vision. David Katzmaier concluded his review by saying the Qualia 006 takes a special place in the world because the image quality is significatly better than any large- screen plasma, single-chip DLP, standard LCD, or LCoS microdisplay he had ever seen.

So, for us who bought sight unseen, we have the best TV in the world.

Welcome to the Q family (I'll be partially in the Q family tomorrow when the stand arrives :) ).

How did you get to see that review; I haven't gotten my May issue yet and I don't see it online anywhere...you have inside connections?

Originally posted by MotorMouth777
Seems like my Mac Mini is too much of a wuss to get any kind of picture to the Q006. DVI to HDMI cable. Not sure why as it output a picture to my Plasma. Hmmmmm. Gonna try a new 17 inch powerbook. It should work since its the new one that can drive the 30 inch cinema wide at 2500 x 1600 resolution.

anyone who has put a mac on this beauty let me know if I need to do anything special or should it just go.

have you visited the ati website for info and possibly the latest drivers/software?

Originally posted by BenDover
Zech, give this a whirl:

http://www.vividlogic.com/products/dtvr_overview.html
Now THAT'S what I'm TALKING about!!! Too bad they only support Mits and RCA, or I'd probably spring for it.

But I'd settle for a simple XP driver to use the 006 as a 2nd display via FireWire/iLink.

--Dwayne

Originally posted by BenDover
Welcome to the Q family . . . .
Perhaps we could refer to ourselves as the "Q Continuum" . . . :cool:

. . . or would that be too elitist? ;)

--Dwayne

Vividlogic used to allow a trial period...it may work with the Q; give it a shot. There are also some other drivers and software that come from Japan that could allow the PC to talk to the Q but it isn't straightforward to get them to work, if you can do so at all.

[EDIT: I wonder if an AVHDD would work; I used to own an RCA model about a year ago.]

BenDover,
My dealer gave a complete issue to me today. I subscribe also, but my copy had not come in the mail. You can imagine how happy I was to read the first review of our baby.

Originally posted by PQLover
BenDover,
My dealer gave a complete issue to me today. I subscribe also, but my copy had not come in the mail. You can imagine how happy I was to read the first review of our baby.

yes, i can imagine. there are one or two other magazines that are also supposed to be reviewing the 006 in their next issue. i have been anxious to see these reviews. i'm going to have to barge into the sound and vision magazine offices tomorrow and demand my copy :)

what a crying shame, looks like voom is finally done for...

Dwayne,
You might want to browse the HDTV Recorders & Players forum with the thread " How to record via IEEE 1394 (Firewire) to Windows XP ". This is free software and it should allow the 006 to output to your PC for recording or time shifting. I'm not sure about its ability to display content from the PC via the firewire though. I have not tried this yet myself mainly because I have no issues with connecting the PC to the 006 via dvi/hdmi. I use TT as the dvd player front end and also microsoft mce 2005 with good results. Have you had a chance to try to input 1080/24psf yet?
brgds,
jp

Originally posted by brt3
Here's a really great interview from the "Secrets..." site. It's an interview with Mike Poirer of Algolith Technologies click here (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/videos/secrets-studios/mike-poirier-algolith-3-10-5/mike-poirier-algolith-3-10-05-index.html). This is a good discussion of compression artifacts, how Algolith tries to eliminate them, and the technology behind their two products -- the Mosquito and the Dragonfly click here (http://www.algolith.com/index.php?id=137).

Since the Qualia is so ruthless in displaying any flaws in source material, I have pre-ordered a Dragonfly. If you order both products they will be offering a combo at a $1,000 savings. He also mentions a new model of the Mosquito with 4 HDMI inputs -- think I may have to SuperSize my order...

Assuming we can't get the 006 to take any form of 1080p input, how much do you think the dragonfly will help? I had a discussion with one of the qualia folks when I was in Japan a couple of months ago regarding the 001. This is their standalone video processor that retails for around $5K. The qualia guy mentioned that the 006 was equivalent in processing capabilities to the 001 with the exception of the 001 being upgradeable and it had some zoom functions. It used to be a good rule of thumb that the electronics in most TVs would not be very good compared to standalone processors or even DVD players. But I think with the 006 they have changed that rule a bit. I would be very interested in seeing how the dragonfly might help the overall pq of the 006. SD satellite tv stations are still my biggest issue with regards to pq. The problem I have with my D* sources is that I have to fix the resolution of all stations to 1080i when using the dvi output. The samsung 160 stb that I am using does not seem to have any "pass through" via the dvi. I will probably be adding comcast and the 6412 to compare.

jp2, I agree with you. The questions are (1) is the dragonfly outputting 1080i sufficiently better in upscaling and deinterlacing than the Sony to warrant the price ($3500), (2) is the noise reduction in the dragonfly sufficiently better than the Mosquito to warrant choosing that for the SD sources like cable or satellite, and (3) is there something in the Realta processing not covered in 1 or 2 that otherwise warrants it with the intent of outputting 1080i.

Now, if Sony upgrades the set to 1080p we might have something to think about but that's not on the horizon (yet).

Cheers

Question to Qualia 006 owners...

Saw the 45-inch Sharp LCD panel at Harvey's in New York not too long ago...was sooo not blown away by its performance compared to all the other panels on display...all being fed a HD signal from a cable company. The Sharp really did not show me any great improvement in picture quality over the video display panels..even though its 1920x1080 versus 1366x768 of other panels...

My question...is the Qualia's 1920x1080 performance significantly better than other Sony rear projection models at 1366x768 ?

I mean that is twice the number of pixels...plus the new SXRD technology...so is the picture performance a stunning difference..a major significant improvement...almost like the difference between regular TV and HD...or is the difference proportional...and lot more subdued...and it just a slightly bit better than present 1366x768 XBR LCD rear projection models?

If price were the same...and just talking performance now...would you rather have the Qualia 006 or a similar sized plasma panel at 1366x768 ?

I had the sharp 1080p 45" LCD as well as the toshiba 1080P LCOS 57" and now the 006. I think the better pq is mainly due to the SXRD/LCOS technology more so than the 1080P. I liked the SXRD/LCOS look much better than the LCD.

Originally posted by Archangel
Question to Qualia 006 owners...

My question...is the Qualia's 1920x1080 performance significantly better than other Sony rear projection models at 1366x768 ?


I have a close friend who has a 55" XS-line LCD set all dialed-in to his preferences, and he's seen my 006.

His reaction to seeing the Qualia with a variety of sources was that in every case, the Qualia was as good as his set, and in some cases it is noticably better.

The "just as good" category was SD stuff, DVD's, and XBox games. Arguably, I should be able to do a bit better with the DRCv2 scaler than the XS's DRCv1--I haven't done any serious tweaking yet beyond the basics.

The "noticably better" category was black levels in general, and good HD, especially 1080i sources. I don't think that it's just the higher resolution so much has that it's exactly 1920x1080. The visual effect was that small details were very clear--like being able to actually read the text on small things that were in the picture, but not featured.

A good example is HDNet's recent coverage of the Vatican--in a crowd of thousands of people, there are maybe 100 or more faces in the crowd closest to the camera (and in focus) that you can see clearly enough to recognize someone if you knew them. My friend tells me that when scaled down to 720p, things like that get blurred a bit.

--Dwayne

EDIT: LOL -- ask a question, get two contradictory answers . . . .
(jp2 responded while I was typing.)

I think the 006 looks better than the 768p plasmas; and the price is similar. You can get a 65 inch commercial Panny 768p plasma for about what you get the 006 for through a reputable dealer here. That was my decision. I saw both and preferred the Sony, although the difference was not dramatic it was noticeable. Even my spouse saw the difference between the 006 and the Sony 60 plasma -- both were good, the 006 was better. But there are other considerations, style and look in your room, that may play to one or the other. And there are those who prefer the plasma "look" to the film-like look of the 006.

Cheers

editor58,
Your creditials are very impressive indeed!!!! Now I'm really looking forward to your review since your so very anal about things :D

Welcome to all the new owners including PQLover. Though I think we've only temporarily lost some of our friends, we've also gained some new members who can provide important input on the Q006.

C'mon guys (PM, JB, Color, DD), I know you guys are still lurking. Let's forgive and forget.

Colortv, I miss seeing your NBC peacock avatar! :D

Originally posted by Archangel
Question to Qualia 006 owners...

My question...is the Qualia's 1920x1080 performance significantly better than other Sony rear projection models at 1366x768 ?



I was an owner of a Sony 70" LCD RPTV prior to the Q006. Like night and day. No comparison. Hope that says it all :D

JUST GOT MY WIDESCREEN REVIEW - MAY ISSUE:

GREAT REVIEW OF THE 006!!!!

The reviewer claims its the best RPTV he's ever seen:

From the Conclusion:

"The picture is one of the most enveloping I have seen and has a sense of depth and 3-dimensionality that I have not previously seen. Video games were so involving that is was easy to get drawn into the virtual world and stay up way too late. While certainly not cheap, the best never is. My only complaint is that Sony needed their sample back after so short of a time. If I had the space and funds for it, I would buy it without hesitation".

Author claims images with a DVD were "a tad crisper" with HDMI vs. component, although both were superb.

other statements: High-def broadcasts looked stunning with crisp resolution, deep almost CRT-like blacks, and well-saturated colors.

Suggest owners or prospective owners buy this issue. Discusses all the settings.

Originally posted by nhey
JUST GOT MY WIDESCREEN REVIEW - MAY ISSUE:

GREAT REVIEW OF THE 006!!!!

The reviewer claims its the best RPTV he's ever seen:

From the Conclusion:

"The picture is one of the most enveloping I have seen and has a sense of depth and 3-dimensionality that I have not previously seen. Video games were so involving that is was easy to get drawn into the virtual world and stay up way too late. While certainly not cheap, the best never is. My only complaint is that Sony needed their sample back after so short of a time. If I had the space and funds for it, I would buy it without hesitation".

Author claims images with a DVD were "a tad crisper" with HDMI vs. component, although both were superb.

other statements: High-def broadcasts looked stunning with crisp resolution, deep almost CRT-like blacks, and well-saturated colors.

Suggest owners or prospective owners buy this issue. Discusses all the settings.

I am out the door and heading straight to a book store now! :D

I can't find widescreen review at my local bookstore. Any idea which larger chains carry it. Barnes & Noble, Borders...etc.

Originally posted by Archangel
Question to Qualia 006 owners...

Saw the 45-inch Sharp LCD panel at Harvey's in New York not too long ago...was sooo not blown away by its performance compared to all the other panels on display...all being fed a HD signal from a cable company. The Sharp really did not show me any great improvement in picture quality over the video display panels..even though its 1920x1080 versus 1366x768 of other panels...

My question...is the Qualia's 1920x1080 performance significantly better than other Sony rear projection models at 1366x768 ?

I mean that is twice the number of pixels...plus the new SXRD technology...so is the picture performance a stunning difference..a major significant improvement...almost like the difference between regular TV and HD...or is the difference proportional...and lot more subdued...and it just a slightly bit better than present 1366x768 XBR LCD rear projection models?

If price were the same...and just talking performance now...would you rather have the Qualia 006 or a similar sized plasma panel at 1366x768 ?

Arch,

I visit Harvey's in NYC frequently and am sooooo disappointed at the fact that most, if not all, of their sets do not appear to be properly configured/calibrated. I mean, to the point where I believe out of the box these sets would look better than the way they do in their showroom (btw, I was upstairs and saw their Runco 3 chip DLP projector room and it was beautiful). So, I believe that it may be unfair to judge the Sharp 1080 set based on that viewing alone.

That being said, the Qualia store isn't too far away from Harvey's...you owe it to yourself to head over there and see it for yourself!!! Have them run some of the Blu-Ray material; in fact, I need to head back over there b/c last time I was there they were just finishing up the digital connections to the Qualia; up to that point they were only connected via the component inputs.

i had a remote problem (the menu refused to show up on the screen). went to qualia nyc today, and the fix was to take the batteries out of the remote, take the remote away from the tv, and push every button (including the arrows) twice, then put the batteries back. this somehow resets the remote control. so if anyone else has a similar problem i hope this a post saves you a trip to the store.

welcome all third (and thereafter)wavers.

Thanks, Ben....

I was talking of the Harvey's downtown in ABC Carpet...but you are right...I need to get up to the SonyStyle store and see the Qualia 006 for my own eyes....

I asked a question about this same full HD pixel resolution issue in another thread....and a member replied that a lot of Sharp 45-inch 1980x1080 owners use a HTPC and watch 1080p on the unit...

Could you do the same with the 006...and improve its picture even more ?

What would be the ballpark in building one of these 1080p capable output HTPCs ?

Originally posted by Ted99
A final report on my experience with the SA 8300HD and the Q 006. I can't unstick the "fixed" 1080i signal when using the HDMI connection.

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Hate to beat a dead horse, but I hate letting a dead horse beat me...other than rebooting the 8300, I would try to unplug the hdmi cable, unplug the 8300 for a minute or so, plug the 8300 back into the AC outlet but don't power it up, with the tv off, plug the hdmi cable into the 8300 from the tv, power up the tv, go through the advanced setup with the 8300 again, then power the 8300 up at the conclusion of the setup.

Maybe if the 8300 "rediscovers" the TV it will work correctly...

[EDIT: On the off chance it is just this simple, it won't actually say "pass-through" in the general settings area but instead say "auto dvi/hdmi"

from the sa8300hd user's guide:

"If your HDTV uses a DVI or HDMI port, Auto DVI/HDMI appears here instead of Pass-Through." Users Guide, p. 10.]

Archangel, the 006 does not accept a 1080p input. Many have tried, none have succeeded, even from a PC. Only 1080i. A future firmware upgrade is possible.

however, the internal electronics do an excellent job of deinterlacing 1080i.

Cheers

Kaduku, You've tried so hard to bring everybody back together again. I've read every post in both threads, so I feel I know the missing Qualians. Please guys, come back. We all get hurt in life over what someone says or does. But we can't let this hold us back. We have a great TV(I hate calling it that because it's so much more) that brings us all together. Come back and be part of the Qualian group again.

is it just me or does setting the qualia to "reduced" power eliminate any trace of red push that the set may have? i am very comfortable in the pro,warm,cinema pro, reduced power modes. it just looks correct to my eye. has any else noted this?

You can subscribe to Widescreen Review online and get online acess to each month's edition.

Their website showing the current month's edition much be overloaded. Nothing displays.

I don’t know if it is just me but I went to look at the Qualia 06 today and I was not impressed. I saw it at Audio Advice in Raleigh NC which is supposed to be a high end audio video store. Well all of their sets appeared to be well calibrated but the 06 just didn’t impress me as much as I had expected it too. It looked like any other well calibrated set I have seen. Now it definitely looked far better than any uncalibrated TV that you would see in BB or CC but it just didn’t look $10k better than my 55 WF655 GWIV. I am not trying to knock your TV but what did you see in it that made you drop 13 large? What was being displayed? Was it the 1080p WMV movies? I didn’t get a chance to see what the Qualia can do with a computer but I did see it with discovery HD so that should be pretty good. Anyway, I think I would rather have 4 WF655’s than 1 Qualia. Am I the only one who is not that impressed?

Originally posted by mpgxsvcd

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Am I the only one who is not that impressed?


So far, yes :D

I have the 006 and live relatively close to Audio Advice. I'll stop in tomorrow and see if theirs looks out of wack. I have never seen a TV at Audio Advice that looks close to my 006 so now you have me curious.

Maurice

Originally posted by PQLover
Kaduku, You've tried so hard to bring everybody back together again. I've read every post in both threads, so I feel I know the missing Qualians. Please guys, come back. We all get hurt in life over what someone says or does. But we can't let this hold us back. We have a great TV(I hate calling it that because it's so much more) that brings us all together. Come back and be part of the Qualian group again.


PQ - Well said!!

Hello ALL:

I was wondering if the set has a clean look without the speakers? Are any brackets showing?

TIA...countdown to Wednesday 15:30 begins. :D

Originally posted by mpsan
I was wondering if the set has a clean look without the speakers? Are any brackets showing?

mspan,

I think the set looks very clean without the speakers attached. They did a perfect job of designing an attachment system that works very well either way.

Pics here (http://homepage.mac.com/raythompson/SonyQualia006/PhotoAlbum21.html)

mspan -- to elaborate, the speakers use an attachment method where they "plug" directly into the sides of the set. You pop them into place, tighten a few screws to lock things into place, and then you're done. If you don't use the speakers there are covers for the attachment points and everything is very clean.

Originally posted by Joel
jp2, I agree with you. The questions are (1) is the dragonfly outputting 1080i sufficiently better in upscaling and deinterlacing than the Sony to warrant the price ($3500), (2) is the noise reduction in the dragonfly sufficiently better than the Mosquito to warrant choosing that for the SD sources like cable or satellite, and (3) is there something in the Realta processing not covered in 1 or 2 that otherwise warrants it with the intent of outputting 1080i.

Joel & jp2 -- you bring up good points. I am looking to improve the quality of SD sources on the Qualia. SD-Comcast is very hard to stomach, and though the set's DVD performance is outstanding I think it can be improved. This is a matter of "how you gonna keep them down on the farm once they've seen the city". I've seen something approximating perfection watching good HD material on the Qualia, and am greedy for more... :D

Ideally I'll be able to find a unit to demo or take home on a trial basis. The more I read about the Realta/HQV/Teranex technology the more it seems it does a bit more than the scaler/processor in the Qualia (though nobody at Sony is giving out any details on that). I'm also impressed by Algolith and I suspect the combination of the two companies might result in a killer product. Algolith suggest using the Dragonfly and Mosquito together (surprise, surprise); even though I seek video nirvana I think that might be overkill for me...

Too bad Penton-Man can't add a succinctly wry comment here...

Great! I need to use the speakers for watching HD, but for everything else, I go thru my proc. The Q has Optical out only and I would need a 5 meter cable. But, once my stand comes, my 6' cable will do fine.

Now I need a way to record HD. I do not have digital cable.

Originally posted by brt3
mspan -- to elaborate, the speakers use an attachment method where they "plug" directly into the sides of the set. You pop them into place, tighten a few screws to lock things into place, and then you're done. If you don't use the speakers there are covers for the attachment points and everything is very clean.

Originally posted by hifi59
is it just me or does setting the qualia to "reduced" power eliminate any trace of red push that the set may have? i am very comfortable in the pro,warm,cinema pro, reduced power modes. it just looks correct to my eye. has any else noted this?

hifi59,

When I set up my Q006 -- using the DVE D-VHS tape -- I thought the reduced power setting seemed to lower the contrast of the set. One thing about reds on this set -- you've never seen red until you've seen it on a Qualia. Red has always been difficult to reproduce via the NTSC system so the red we're all used to is, technically, inaccurate. That being said, the first time you play "Moulin Rouge" on the Qualia it blows you away...

Hmmm... am looking at "Widescreen Review" via the subscriber site and can't find mention of the Qualia. Mail here is quite slow -- maybe I'll get my copy by the end of next week...

:confused:

Originally posted by mpsan
Great! I need to use the speakers for watching HD, but for everything else, I go thru my proc. The Q has Optical out only and I would need a 5 meter cable. But, once my stand comes, my 6' cable will do fine.

Now I need a way to record HD. I do not have digital cable.

Do you want to record from satellite or OTA? If it's just OTA you can run firewire into a D-VHS deck and you should be fine as you'll be recording off the Qualia's internal ATSC tuner. I recall reading here numerous times that the Q's 1394 connection was bidirectional and would output from the tuner.

If it's satellite, I think your only solution is 169Time.

Originally posted by mpgxsvcd
I don’t know if it is just me but I went to look at the Qualia 06 today and I was not impressed. I saw it at Audio Advice in Raleigh NC which is supposed to be a high end audio video store. Well all of their sets appeared to be well calibrated but the 06 just didn’t impress me as much as I had expected it too. It looked like any other well calibrated set I have seen. Now it definitely looked far better than any uncalibrated TV that you would see in BB or CC but it just didn’t look $10k better than my 55 WF655 GWIV. I am not trying to knock your TV but what did you see in it that made you drop 13 large? What was being displayed? Was it the 1080p WMV movies? I didn’t get a chance to see what the Qualia can do with a computer but I did see it with discovery HD so that should be pretty good. Anyway, I think I would rather have 4 WF655’s than 1 Qualia. Am I the only one who is not that impressed?

I've seen 'HD' at Best Buy and other big box retailers that looked more like SD than anything else although none of the sales pukes would verify it. I wouldn't doubt if the big box retailers are taking the downscaled composite feed off a D*HD receiver and saying "That's HD" and hoping no one will notice. If it IS actual HD, I wonder how much the distribution amps etc damage the signal... this is all conjecture but after seeing 'HD' a la mass box movers vs. a properly set up HD set with good material it's a wonder anyone EVER buys a hi-def set.

I would like to use my cable. So, I would need a recorder with builtin ATSC/QAM tuner. I would like a PVR and not tape. The problem with using the Qualia is that I would need to have it on in order to record.


Originally posted by kanebear
Do you want to record from satellite or OTA? If it's just OTA you can run firewire into a D-VHS deck and you should be fine as you'll be recording off the Qualia's internal ATSC tuner. I recall reading here numerous times that the Q's 1394 connection was bidirectional and would output from the tuner.

If it's satellite, I think your only solution is 169Time.

Thanks, brt3. I love your site, BTW. I am not going to chomp at the bit for a piece of hardware as yet undelivered and not-yet-in-production. There's plenty of time to add hardware later. If it's great with an 006, makes a huge difference, we'll all know pretty soon.

And mpgsxvd: I am a little surprised. Just about everyone who has seen one has thought it looked great, OOTB without calibration (with only a few setting changes). One thing worth checking is how it's cabled. I have seen a lot of good TVs whose picture was suboptimal in a store (even supposedly high-end stores) because it was being fed via composite or even s-video, or the signal was split so many ways all the sets looked the same (marginal). It was night and day for me, and I saw it with both 1080p blu-ray feed and off the cable box (in the Sony store). HD looked better, obviously, and to some extent what you get with SD is GIGO regardless. DVD looks very good, especially if you feed it 480i over HDMI (which is how I saw it). Mauricef, get in there and fix that thing!

I would love to have Penton-Man, DiveDude, jb007 and the others back. Now that we're well over 200 pp, the posters causing all the fuss seem to have left, and it's back to what it was ... but missing some of our best folks. :( Geez, I go on vacation and the whole place goes to heck!

Cheers!

Originally posted by PQLover
Kaduku, You've tried so hard to bring everybody back together again. I've read every post in both threads, so I feel I know the missing Qualians. Please guys, come back. We all get hurt in life over what someone says or does. But we can't let this hold us back. We have a great TV(I hate calling it that because it's so much more) that brings us all together. Come back and be part of the Qualian group again.

Very well said!
I think we're all trying hard.

Kaduku, I guess you're still here! lol Post appropriately edited... :)

Originally posted by Joel
Thanks, brt3. I love your site, BTW. I am not going to chomp at the bit for a piece of hardware as yet undelivered and not-yet-in-production. There's plenty of time to add hardware later. If it's great with an 006, makes a huge difference, we'll all know pretty soon.

I would love to have Penton-Man, DiveDude, Kaduku, jb007 and the others back... :( Geez, I go on vacation and the whole place goes to heck!

Thanks, Joel -- I keep working on the site in bits and pieces, when time allows. I am always open to suggestions, if anyone thinks of something good to add. Trying to get the Qualia service manual converted to pdf and posted, but tax time is the worst...

:mad:

Have to tranlate my tax bill into Qualias -- wouldn't that be depressing, as in "Guess what, honey --we bought the US gov't four Qualias this year!". Wonder how much that is in Penton-Paper? (bait, bait, bait)...

;)

BTW, the rumors of Kaduku's demise are greatly exaggerated -- I think he's still around so don't write him off yet. As to the others -- "Lassie Come Home"...

Originally posted by mpgxsvcd
I don’t know if it is just me but I went to look at the Qualia 06 today and I was not impressed. I saw it at Audio Advice in Raleigh NC which is supposed to be a high end audio video store. Well all of their sets appeared to be well calibrated but the 06 just didn’t impress me as much as I had expected it too. It looked like any other well calibrated set I have seen. Now it definitely looked far better than any uncalibrated TV that you would see in BB or CC but it just didn’t look $10k better than my 55 WF655 GWIV. I am not trying to knock your TV but what did you see in it that made you drop 13 large? What was being displayed? Was it the 1080p WMV movies? I didn’t get a chance to see what the Qualia can do with a computer but I did see it with discovery HD so that should be pretty good. Anyway, I think I would rather have 4 WF655’s than 1 Qualia. Am I the only one who is not that impressed?

I was just at the Magnolia outlet today and was browsing around, though I did see some impressive sets, IMHO nothing still compares to the Q006 at the moment. Some folks have stated this before, that they were not impressed by the Q006, but also thought that there were possible factors involved (source, lighting, etc). Maybe someone screwed around with the settings. I am glad that you are happy with your 55 WF655 GWIV. It's also a Sony. I am also happy with my one Q006, in fact, I wish I had two. :D

Originally posted by mpsan
editor58, glad you are here. My Q006 is being delivered next Wednesday at 3PM. I have Rotel as well...with a Meridian Proc and B&W all around. I also have a Sony 975 that I will unbox when I get the Q.

I do not like it when people screw up and they now seem to think that a simple "whatever" is OK!

So, since you, too, are a coffee snob, does this mean we are talking Bodum stuff? :D


No Bodum - I have a Bunn Rest. model customed into a single unit, Bunn Rest. grinder, and a Salvatore Commercial single group Espresso Machine, Nuvo Flat Burr Grinder... with the coffes machines all plumbed in...

I do like your component set-up!!

I keep hearing everyone setting up their picture to warm. If you ever watch the news magazines, All the shows are way "Over-Warmed".
For us to shoot at Dateline, our Camera has to see Roger Macie just outside of Boston. We go to his shop, Drop off the Camera, and then have
a late lunch at Durgin-Park. Pick up the Camera late in the day, and head back to NYC. The cameras are set up to the Roger Macie "Uni-Standard". Basically, Roger developed a "LOOK" that NBC likes, so all the Shooters have their cameras set-up by Roger so when we show up for a two or three camera shoot, they will be very close to matching, and all we have to do is a minor "paint-job" with the camera paintboxes. It saves a lot of time. BUT, all the cameras are VERY WARM. Add to that the AMBER gels for the backgrounds that we use (cause NBC like it that way), and you have an exceeding warm picture. I prefer to have my TV color temp at around 7K kelvin. It tends to compensate for over saturated Chroma, but that is too much for many of the shows like CSI, or even Sports, which is perfect at 65K kelvin. So, there really is no winning. Every one of the networks has their own Master control standard.

NTSC= Never-Twice the-Same-Color

EDITOR

Originally posted by brt3
[B]hifi59,
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When I set up my Q006 -- using the DVE D-VHS tape -- I thought the reduced power setting seemed to lower the contrast of the set. One thing about reds on this set -- you've never seen red until you've seen it on a Qualia. Red has always been difficult to reproduce via the NTSC system so the red we're all used to is, technically, inaccurate. That being said, the first time you play "Moulin Rouge" on the Qualia it blows you away...
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i agree.. the reds are great. what i was referring to though is a red "cast" to the picture. u can see it in a white scene. nothing severe, but still there. when i engage reduced power mode, not only is light output reduced (good for my viewing situation) but the red cast seems to disappear making the image very neutral to my eyes. i prefer this mode in conjunction with cinema pro. image appears cleaner and more 3d like to me. BTW.. if u do not have the richard gray power company conditioner (750.00 for model 400s) u don't know what u r missing. it cleans and tightens blacks and strips images of noise like no other component i have seen. helps with audio too. u WILL see a difference within 30 minutes of installing . u will finally see it at its best when it's been running for about 5 or 6 days. my 2nd best investment yet (006 is first).

Originally posted by hifi59
i agree.. the reds are great. what i was referring to though is a red "cast" to the picture. u can see it in a white scene. nothing severe, but still there. when i engage reduced power mode, not only is light output reduced (good for my viewing situation) but the red cast seems to disappear making the image very neutral to my eyes.

Hmmm... I don't see this "red shift" at all on my Qualia; can you post your settings?

We are in agreement about power conditioning, although the results vary tremendously depending on the quality of the electrical supply delivered into your home. I used to live out in the country, and must've been the farthest house from the utility's substation. The voltage swing was ridiculous -- from 106 to 126 -- and it used to drive my Monster AVS2000 absolutely nuts trying to smooth that input into a steady-state 120V output. Most gear is not designed for such extreme conditions, but the Monster did an admirable job of coping...

Originally posted by brt3

Too bad Penton-Man can't add a succinctly wry comment here...
I’ve always loved the concept of the potential beauty and grace of a Dragonfly with substandard wind currents, although some *salesman* would demand it have two Realta chips in its arse to have any meaningful firepower and invariably a Judas that sold his principles and support for 30 pieces of silver (or would that be 2K ?) would align himself accordingly.

HE'S BACK...WB

Originally posted by Joel
Kaduku, I guess you're still here! lol Post appropriately edited... :)

I missed what you edited, but yes, I'm still here :D Haven't heard from you awhile.

Originally posted by mpsan
I would like to use my cable. So, I would need a recorder with builtin ATSC/QAM tuner. I would like a PVR and not tape. The problem with using the Qualia is that I would need to have it on in order to record.

Rather salient point there in that you certainly WILL NOT be leaving the Q on just to time-shift! Except in the case where a cable company offers an HDPVR I don't think what you want exists quite yet however it should shortly. I anticipate PC ATSC tuner cards with CableCard slots which will allow you to have PVR functionality and enjoy all the benefits of an HTPC. It's not there yet but it's just a matter of time

Editor 58 ....check your PM,ages

Originally posted by Penton-Man
I’ve always loved the concept of the potential beauty and grace of a Dragonfly with substandard wind currents, although some *salesman* would demand it have two Realta chips in its arse to have any meaningful firepower and invariably a Judas that sold his principles and support for 30 pieces of silver (or would that be 2K ?) would align himself accordingly.

IT'S ALIVE!!!!!

Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the thread...

:D

Originally posted by brt3
Joel & jp2 -- you bring up good points. I am looking to improve the quality of SD sources on the Qualia. SD-Comcast is very hard to stomach, and though the set's DVD performance is outstanding I think it can be improved. This is a matter of "how you gonna keep them down on the farm once they've seen the city". I've seen something approximating perfection watching good HD material on the Qualia, and am greedy for more... :D

Ideally I'll be able to find a unit to demo or take home on a trial basis. The more I read about the Realta/HQV/Teranex technology the more it seems it does a bit more than the scaler/processor in the Qualia (though nobody at Sony is giving out any details on that). I'm also impressed by Algolith and I suspect the combination of the two companies might result in a killer product. Algolith suggest using the Dragonfly and Mosquito together (surprise, surprise); even though I seek video nirvana I think that might be overkill for me...

Too bad Penton-Man can't add a succinctly wry comment here...


Definately demo a unit before buying. If your SD-Comcast signal is a lot worst than DVD quality, I'd conclude that whatever is degrading their SD signal, can't be fixed with a Dragonfly or any other processing.

Blatant antisemitism by a poster? What's next? Makes me want to puke in his face. Maybe someday I'll get the chance.

Sorry, but to call a Jewish forum member a Judas, and to think this piece of fecal matter poster was once a government servant. I'm Jewish too. There is no place here or anywhere for any of that stuff and everyone here should condemn him pure and simple.

I put him on my ignore list but since somebody feels it necessary to quote him I get to see it. Please spare me and don't quote him.

Those who want to learn about video processors should spend some time on the video processor forum.

I had the pleasure of hosting a breakfast at the Las Vegas CES where various processor manufacturers and AVS forum members had a chance to meet, break some bread, and ask and answer questions etc. I do know quite a bit about processors but I do not consider myself to be an expert and I am quite capable of an incorrect explanation.

There are several new chips and chip sets to do video processing, Specifically, The Realta by Silicon Optix, the new Gennum chip, and the new Faroudja chip set.

There has been a lot of marketing, specifically that the Realta chip is the same as a Teranex but now on a chip. The 1080p Faroudja processor shipment is imminent, no processors have been announced using the Gennum chip, and the first processor to use the Realta chip will be the Dragonfly.

It should be noted that Silicon Opix designed a board to demonstrate its chip and that Algolith is essentially placing this board with minor tweaks and improvements in a case to relatively quickly bring a processor to market. Alan Gouger has questioned whether this first generation Realta based Algolith product will do what the members of he processor forum want and need. Also it should be noted that the Dragonfly will not have HD noise reduction as the Mosquito has, but only SD noise reduction. The Realta is a programmable chip and there is only so much that can be put on one chip. The deinterlacing and scaling capabilities of the Realta are capable of continued improvement and I am sure both Silicon Optix and Algolith are working to make such improvements. Both companies have great expertise and abilities. I think we shall see great things to come from Algolith particularly in the generation after the Dragonfly. Anyway I am rambling on but those who are interested in this stuff can go to the processor forum and read the Algolith threads and the Realta threads. There is a lot of stuff in there including lots of posts by Algolith and Silicon Optix people. Good people they all are too.

OK. So what does all this have o do with the 006. How good is the deinterlacing and scaling in the 006? Remember 480i and 1080i signals have to be deinterlaced and scaled to 1080p. And 480p and 720p need to be scaled to 1080p.

All three chips discussed above have great ability to deinterlace 1080i to 1080p using motion adaptive deinterlacing (both for 1080i film and video). It would appear these abilities can not be used with he 006 since it does not appear to accept 1080p in. Deinterlacing of 480i and scaling deinterlaced 480i and 480p to 720p (remember scaling it do 1080p does no good) by a separate processor may show some improvement over whats inside the 006. But it looks like we will not be able to get around the 1080i deinterlacer in the 006 which I suspect, but do not know, is not motion adaptive but rather simple bob and weave nor can we avoid the scaling from 720p.

By the way the champion for deinterlacing 480i video as distinguished from 480i film is the Faroudja with DCDI. But I being a sports nut who watches lots of 480i sports want something better. It is not at all clear whether the 480i video deinterlacing of the Realta will be better or as good as the Faroudja. Time will tell.

I guess I am a just a Jewish salesman. But the way this SOB poster keeps trying to crucify me or anyone who aligns himself with me (barf, where is it necessary or appropriate for anyone to align himself with anybody here), its a good thing I am not a Jewish carpenter. Peace and love to you all. God bless the United States.

Mark -- don't assume anything of other people on this thread. I quoted PM because I was glad to see him back. I follow this thread on my Treo 600 when I'm not at home, and it is pretty tough to read on a small device like that. I didn't "read" the implication into PM's comment that you describe, although now that you point it out I guess it was meant for you.

People -- can we try to keep this thread positive and informative? I think the majority of posters here would like to keep this thread alive as it's a vital resource. If it descends further into the muck it will either get shut down or abandoned by the people who post here. The sad thing would be if that happened because of what boils down to a quarrel between two people, each of whom have good things to add to the thread...

Originally posted by brt3
Mark -- don't assume anything of other people on this thread. I quoted PM because I was glad to see him back. I follow this thread on my Treo 600 when I'm not at home, and it is pretty tough to read on a small device like that. I didn't "read" the implication into PM's comment that you describe, although now that you point it out I guess it was meant for you.

People -- can we try to keep this thread positive and informative? I think the majority of posters here would like to keep this thread alive as it's a vital resource. If it descends further into the muck it will either get shut down or abandoned by the people who post here. The sad thing would be if that happened because of what boils down to a quarrel between two people, each of whom have good things to add to the thread...


Hey, at least we are somewhat communicating again! :D

Originally posted by kaduku
Hey, at least we are somewhat communicating again! :D

Kaduku -- you stayin' dry? Looks like the Giants are getting rained on -- and they just won with a HR by Marquis Grissom...

Yeah, a walk-off 3 run blast. What a game.

Originally posted by brt3
Kaduku -- you stayin' dry? Looks like the Giants are getting rained on -- and they just won with a HR by Marquis Grissom...

I wish I could share your excitement, but I'm a A's fan. Though I'm glad they're getting rained on :D :D :D

Originally posted by kaduku
I wish I could share your excitement, but I'm a A's fan. Though I'm glad they're getting rained on :D :D :D

Hahahahaha!!!! I'm not much of a baseball fan, but I turned on the game during the eighth inning and it was a pretty great finish. Best game I ever saw was an A's game I went to last year in Oakland, though...

Unlike tonight's Golden State game, however, the Giants game was "girly-man" SD...

i certainly do not read into PM's post that which mark accuses him of; i know exactly what PM was getting at...judas was a traitor...PM feels that someone here betrayed him...no anti semitism...to say that it was is just ridiculous.

to make that accusation is just ludicrous and only meant to infuriate/intimidate people...so often that accusation is hurled without justification simply because it is one of those "hot button" issues...

maybe this thread should get closed...jb, you can have a moderator close this thread you know...

[EDIT: added "intimidate" since that is also what it is used for and apparently accomplished just that by illiciting apologies from other posters]

Is everything Kosher? Now back to real stuff...................................


As to the speakers I have found them to be pretty darn good for casual listening. If I fire up all my amps they power company has to bring a second reactor online. I have mine on the surround mode and other than lacking in base they do a somewhat convincing job. Mabye it is because they are so darn far apart on the beast but I get real good stereo separation.

Sometimes with Video I feel like the blond who is not burdened with intelligent thoughts. Since I am apparently NOT any kind of videophile I just sit, slackjawed on my couch and take in the best damn picture I have EVER seen. As to red push in the white backgrounds...........I can't see it as I am reaching for my sunglasses.

Funny story. We had friends over tonight and they have never seen a 70 inch TV let alone anything like the Q. I had just turned it on and they were commenting how bright it was and suddenly the picture changed to a sunset. You could see everyone flopping around putting their hands up to shield their eyes going OMFG. Timing was perfect.

All I can tell you is that like the big boobed Blond, I am not burdened by thinking too much about the picture. It is amazing but you can actually read labels and writing on things in the scene backgrounds. I NEVER saw anything like that before. It simply gives me wood. (especially the 1080i Bikini destinations). I don't know what the show was but I was entranced by some underwater show with coral, fish and whatnot. There was one tonight on INHD that was on California. Skydiving, Redwoods, Skiing, Surfing, it is like being there. The detail this set produces is simply in a league by itself. I've had plasma (which was good) but the Q is my new girlfriend because she is much prettier and she really puts out.


DVD's look awesome and EVERY DVD I own now seems new. So it can Bob or Weave or even use a flux capacitor because I just don't care. I love those little Japanese engineers at Sony even if they did sneak attack us once.

Originally posted by MotorMouth777

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It simply gives me wood. (especially the 1080i Bikini destinations). ... The detail this set produces is simply in a league by itself. I've had plasma (which was good) but the Q is my new girlfriend because she is much prettier and she really puts out.

...

So it can Bob or Weave or even use a flux capacitor because I just don't care. I love those little Japanese engineers at Sony even if they did sneak attack us once.

I take it you are VERY happy with your purchase :D

Originally posted by BenDover

maybe this thread should get closed...jb, you can have a moderator close this thread you know...



Now let's not mention closing this thread anymore. We have to think of positive things. It wouldn't be fair to everyone else, especially the new owners who do want to continue this thing.

I agree this thread should not be closed. This is a very good thread which many people enjoy.

BTW Bendover I haven't asked anybody to post anything about me.

BTW. What purpose did the post I took offense at serve? Read it. Why was it made? As some sort of joke in poor taste or as something designed to inflame or seek division or alignment between sides? If that post wasn't made, things would have been a lot better.

I have been respectful of the member's wishes here as most of us to get things back to friends helping each other and sharing a little of our lives as 006 owners. Most I think know that and understand that.

If certain others can control themselves and keep things constructive and/or social, so can I.

A very nice solution here. The original poster deletes the offending post, I delete my response, and the quoters delete their posts. Everything goes away and all is forgiven. What a deal. Are we all here big enough to do something like that?

Originally posted by BenDover
i certainly do not read into PM's post that which mark accuses him of; i know exactly what PM was getting at...judas was a traitor...PM feels that someone here betrayed him...no anti semitism...to say that it was is just ridiculous.

to make that accusation is just ludicrous and only meant to infuriate/intimidate people...so often that accusation is hurled without justification simply because it is one of those "hot button" issues...

EXACT-A-MUNDO Eileen said.

The wry comment was submitted to evoke a “substantive” post from somebody with the knowledge and ability to help other 006 owners on this thread with his guidance rather than sitting back and watch everyone here stumble over their video processor concerns, when he could easily shed some light on this subject.

The bait worked !

Unfortunately, it was prefaced by some self-righteous martyrdom dribble. I am extremely unconcerned (to the point of boredom) about ANYBODY’S religious affiliation, ethnic background, or skin pigmentation.

I’m sure he knows that Judas was used as a generic term for a sell-out …..nothing more….nothing less. Perhaps if I were to refer to him in the future as *the salesman with the J.D.”, I will be accused of prejudice against underachievers.
:eek:

Originally posted by Zechman
Penton: You have a PM.

--Dwayne
Sorry man,
I can not read it. After nurturing you through the Qualia waiting period for so long, I am more disappointed in your actions than anything that some jack-arse could say.

Well I guess that answers my question.

And I'm sorry, too. I still think of you as a friend, and I hope the feeling is mutual.

--Dwayne

PM, Bottom line is that I will always back you up man! :D

Geez, Mark and everyone, lighten up. I'm Jewish too and took no offense from the post. It's just a forum. People can call me whatever they want here, shucks, I don't care. I'm glad to see PM back, for one.

In my five years on this forum I have never put anyone on my "ignore" list, although I've been tempted from time to time. Usually, just before I do it, I say to myself, "hey, maybe it was ME that was the jerk this time," laugh it off and forget about it.

Cheers all. welcome back, PM!

And Kaduku, I had your name in a list of folks I wanted to see back on the forum, finding you back I took it out.

Later!

Originally posted by Joel
I'm Jewish too

And have a beautiful wife too boot!:)

Originally posted by kaduku
PM, Bottom line is that I will always back you up man! :D
Good !
Now that I’ve got my anger and disappointment out of the way…I consider the issue closed…and perhaps in the future…I will read Dwayne’s P.M.

Now for me, it’s off to a place were street racin is actually legal today...to mingle with other elitists.
:D

girls, girls let's all stop the craziness and focus on the privlege that is q ownership. mark, i have no dog in the fight i just didn't read it the way you did. let's move on ! btw, the fix to my remote worked. can't figure out why pushing each button twice with no batteries in it would work

Originally posted by apache1
btw, the fix to my remote worked. can't figure out why pushing each button twice with no batteries in it would work
I'd wager that you just had a button stuck, and working them all without the batteries in (to prevent the TV from getting dizzy) got it un-stuck.

--Dwayne

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Good !
Now that I’ve got my anger and disappointment out of the way…I consider the issue closed…and perhaps in the future…I will read Dwayne’s P.M.

Now for me, it’s off to a place were street racin is actually legal today...to mingle with other elitists.
:D

Now that's the PM I know! Now everybody, let's get back to having fun!

Yes Joel, I was in HI which explains my absence. Dial up at the hotel was unbearable.

Originally posted by apache1
girls, girls let's all stop the craziness and focus on the privlege that is q ownership. mark, i have no dog in the fight i just didn't read it the way you did. let's move on ! btw, the fix to my remote worked. can't figure out why pushing each button twice with no batteries in it would work

lol, I think it was a late April fools joke :D

Originally posted by apache1
girls, girls let's all stop the craziness
Hold the phone!

I consider that to be blatant prejudice against my transgender status.:D

Dwayne, I will get to your P.M. sometime, I may not respond simply because my recent absence has caused me to become a tad lazy...so don't read anything into it.

Has anyone found WSR or Sound and Vision(?) on newstands yet ???

Originally posted by Penton-Man

Has anyone found WSR or Sound and Vision(?) on newstands yet ???

No, I looked at three different book stores yesterday with no luck :(

Guess it's time for me to chime in, again, and say howdy to all the new Qualians and my old friends. I, like most of you, have been extremely disappointed and frustrated with one of the directions this thread has gone. Sarcastic posts and personal attacks don't belong here!

Perhaps, in small part, it can be chalked up to the lull in time between the first wavers and second wavers. There wasn't much to post about the Q006 and things got a little OT. That's inevitable in a 200+ page thread. Nobody, I believe, wants this to be a techno-geek only thread (although we may have some techno-geeks posting :))

Other threads berate us because all they read about us is how happy we are with our purchase of the Q006 and the lack of issues with this first generation model. Let them mock us. We're the ones who enjoy the ultimate viewing experience whenever we choose, day or night. But, let's not allow them to scorn us because we can't get along and people post stupid things.

Things change. Typically, posters drop-off or fade away after their purchase has been made and they don't have any questions or issues. Here, us elitists, have really enjoyed each other's company. I wish that would continue. I, for one, miss you all. I, for one, miss those that have not posted lately, but I'm certain still lurk. Come on back, let's give this a another try :p

I was watching the movie Old School the other night on my Q006, so allow me to sign off this post as . . .

The Godfather

:D :D :D

Originally posted by jb007

Things change. Typically, posters drop-off or fade away after their purchase has been made and they don't have any questions or issues. Here, us elitists, have really enjoyed each other's company. I wish that would continue. I, for one, miss you all. I, for one, miss those that have not posted lately, but I'm certain still lurk. Come on back, let's give this a another try :p

The Godfather



JB,
Really good to hear from you again. When you speak, people here really listen, and the Godfather thing is very appropriate, because you are really da man! I bought this tv because of you, as others did also. This is very good indeed! Let's start fresh start enjoying again!

Originally posted by jb007
I, for one, miss you all. I, for one, miss those that have not posted lately, but I'm certain still lurk. Come on back, let's give this a another try
C'mon divedude - bring back minidive !

Well, the B&W center is causing me fits as no stand will hold it at 31+". I am going to mount it on a custom shelf, that matches my TheaterTech TT-400 stand. They are making it for me.

When I get the set I will look for the settings everyone says is best as well. Also, you bring back memories of Boston...I grew up in Hartford and used to go to Durgin Park when we were near there!

Anyway, I have stopped using all but my French Press! Love it!



Originally posted by editor58
No Bodum - I have a Bunn Rest. model customed into a single unit, Bunn Rest. grinder, and a Salvatore Commercial single group Espresso Machine, Nuvo Flat Burr Grinder... with the coffes machines all plumbed in...

I do like your component set-up!!

I keep hearing everyone setting up their picture to warm. If you ever watch the news magazines, All the shows are way "Over-Warmed".
For us to shoot at Dateline, our Camera has to see Roger Macie just outside of Boston. We go to his shop, Drop off the Camera, and then have
a late lunch at Durgin-Park. Pick up the Camera late in the day, and head back to NYC. The cameras are set up to the Roger Macie "Uni-Standard". Basically, Roger developed a "LOOK" that NBC likes, so all the Shooters have their cameras set-up by Roger so when we show up for a two or three camera shoot, they will be very close to matching, and all we have to do is a minor "paint-job" with the camera paintboxes. It saves a lot of time. BUT, all the cameras are VERY WARM. Add to that the AMBER gels for the backgrounds that we use (cause NBC like it that way), and you have an exceeding warm picture. I prefer to have my TV color temp at around 7K kelvin. It tends to compensate for over saturated Chroma, but that is too much for many of the shows like CSI, or even Sports, which is perfect at 65K kelvin. So, there really is no winning. Every one of the networks has their own Master control standard.

NTSC= Never-Twice the-Same-Color

EDITOR

Originally posted by Penton-Man
I am extremely unconcerned (to the point of boredom) about ANYBODY’S ethnic background
Upon retrospect ----that statement is not entirely true……

I do have a known affinity for Latina, Asian, Californian, Texan, British, Scandinavian, Italian and Brazilian women.:D

And women like Mrs.RonB63 who take the time to sometimes interrupt their daily schedule to read my stuff.:)

Well, for now I am not looking for any more PC's in the house. We have too many already and need 20 IP 's for the house alone!

I think LG makes a HD PVR but hear many comments about it. May just give up and go with Comcast HDPVR!

Originally posted by kanebear
Rather salient point there in that you certainly WILL NOT be leaving the Q on just to time-shift! Except in the case where a cable company offers an HDPVR I don't think what you want exists quite yet however it should shortly. I anticipate PC ATSC tuner cards with CableCard slots which will allow you to have PVR functionality and enjoy all the benefits of an HTPC. It's not there yet but it's just a matter of time

Originally posted by mpsan
Well, the B&W center is causing me fits as no stand will hold it at 31+".
Re- Speaker mounts -
You know the guy that posted that he is selling his 006 because his living situation had changed or something to that effect.

Did anyone check out his pics and recognize what he was using to hold up his center channel speaker above his 006 ?

I am also Jewish and saw nothing in his post that bothered me.

Anyway, I am going to set the Sony 975 to 480i>HDMI> Q006. Is that what should be best?


Originally posted by brt3
Mark -- don't assume anything of other people on this thread. I quoted PM because I was glad to see him back. I follow this thread on my Treo 600 when I'm not at home, and it is pretty tough to read on a small device like that. I didn't "read" the implication into PM's comment that you describe, although now that you point it out I guess it was meant for you.

People -- can we try to keep this thread positive and informative? I think the majority of posters here would like to keep this thread alive as it's a vital resource. If it descends further into the muck it will either get shut down or abandoned by the people who post here. The sad thing would be if that happened because of what boils down to a quarrel between two people, each of whom have good things to add to the thread...

Originally posted by mpsan
Well, for now I am not looking for any more PC's in the house. We have too many already and need 20 IP 's for the house alone!

I think LG makes a HD PVR but hear many comments about it. May just give up and go with Comcast HDPVR!

mspan,

20 IPs -- you are my new personal hero!

Check this out here (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=DHGHDD500&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tvhav_HDDVRs). It's Sony's new DHG-HDD500 DVR with 60 hours of HD storage and ships end of next month...

Originally posted by mpsan
I am going to set the Sony 975 to 480i>HDMI> Q006. Is that what should be best?

Correctomundo. This seems to give everyone the best picture.

Hey we can start Jewish Jokes! When I was a kid I told the best ones in High School. Since I was Jewish, people laughed even harder. I still have a friend back East and we swap jokes..he is not Jewish and I tell him all the non-Jewish Jokes now.

Anyway, back On Topic...:D

I am going to have the speakers on 'til my stand comes. The Q only has Optical out (for it's ATSC Tuner) and it would be a 15' run to the Meridian. So, you have a point...maybe I will keep them on even when I get my stand and it will only be a 6' run. Then I do not have to turn on all my amps either! :D



Originally posted by MotorMouth777
Is everything Kosher? Now back to real stuff...................................


As to the speakers I have found them to be pretty darn good for casual listening. If I fire up all my amps they power company has to bring a second reactor online. I have mine on the surround mode and other than lacking in base they do a somewhat convincing job. Mabye it is because they are so darn far apart on the beast but I get real good stereo separation.

I read that too. I wonder if they just thought a key was stuck and when they asked you to press each one twice they had you take the battery out so as not to drive the Q crazy.

Originally posted by apache1
girls, girls let's all stop the craziness and focus on the privlege that is q ownership. mark, i have no dog in the fight i just didn't read it the way you did. let's move on ! btw, the fix to my remote worked. can't figure out why pushing each button twice with no batteries in it would work

PM, I did not look. But, I am having Diamondcase make me a TT-400 TheaterTech stand. Very nice and they finish it to your spec. I am even having them make a 36x24 shelf with supports of the same finish and trim to match the stand. It should work out fine. I will have to post a pic when the stand comes in about 4 weeks!

Also, thank you for the 975 info, I did buy one, but still have it unopened waiting for my Q006 Wednesday @ 3:30. :D I notice in Home Theater Mag that I got yesterday they review the 975.

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Re- Speaker mounts -
You know the guy that posted that he is selling his 006 because his living situation had changed or something to that effect.

Did anyone check out his pics and recognize what he was using to hold up his center channel speaker above his 006 ?

Well, I have all these systems as I am a "Migrant Electronics Worker"! :D

Nice Sony PVR! It shows an ATSC Tuner but is it QAM as well? How do they give you the guide info?

Originally posted by brt3
mspan,

20 IPs -- you are my new personal hero!

Check this out here (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=DHGHDD500&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tvhav_HDDVRs). It's Sony's new DHG-HDD500 DVR with 60 hours of HD storage and ships end of next month...

What month/# issue of Sound and Vision and WSR have the Qualia review? I've seen the Blue Man Group S&V with no joy and it doesn't look like issue 95 of WSR has it.

Thanks!

On a side note I don't have this set, nor wil the 70" version work for me but I still enjoy this thread and it's discussion of the birth and maturation of the Sony SXRD technology but the yelling and screaming lately is really becoming a downer.

Its the May issue. I have lots of copies, stores get it for free, I can send a fax of it if you like. The review is only about 3 pages and is not all that in depth. PM with a fax number. if you want a copy.

Originally posted by mpsan
Well, for now I am not looking for any more PC's in the house. We have too many already and need 20 IP 's for the house alone!

I think LG makes a HD PVR but hear many comments about it. May just give up and go with Comcast HDPVR!


TWENTY IPS!? HOLY... err, waitasec.. that's not hard to do at all. A few PCs, wireless, printer, DVR, internet fridge, etc etc. :D

As for HD... I'm lazy and went cable. Of course, does TWC offer an HDPVR down here??? Non... they don't even have firewire capable STBs nevermind the FCC requirement.

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Upon retrospect ----that statement is not entirely true……

I do have a known affinity for Latina, Asian, Californian, Texan, British, Scandinavian, Italian and Brazilian women.:D

And women like Mrs.RonB63 who take the time to sometimes interrupt their daily schedule to read my stuff.:)



Penton Man,

I'm flattered that you mentioned me by 'name.' This is Mrs. RonB63. Don't leave this board, you put some color in my day. BTW, this is my first post in this forum and it is TO YOU -- figured you needed a dash of estrogen in the room. Speaking of estrogen, let's all keep this girly bickering of late under control.

I really hope this new TV you're all @#$@ing over is kid proof.

XOXO

Bonnie, The Wife:D :D

...and add in 3 ReplayTV's! :D

Originally posted by kanebear
TWENTY IPS!? HOLY... err, waitasec.. that's not hard to do at all. A few PCs, wireless, printer, DVR, internet fridge, etc etc. :D

As for HD... I'm lazy and went cable. Of course, does TWC offer an HDPVR down here??? Non... they don't even have firewire capable STBs nevermind the FCC requirement.

Originally posted by mpsan
Well, I have all these systems as I am a "Migrant Electronics Worker"! :D

Nice Sony PVR! It shows an ATSC Tuner but is it QAM as well? How do they give you the guide info?

It comes down the pipe for Cablevision-
Whoa, 60 hours of HD in the HDD500 - I'd eat that up in a week!

I have a customized SD TIVO with (2) 300 gig Drives in it... I have stuff
from 2002 on it. My wife thinks it's my personal Playboy Library Delivery System. Oooo, I shall name it Puss in her honor. Give me a Terabyte or give me Death.

Our Avid Edit system has 2 Terabyte for broadcast video, and we have a file share Server on our home /Office Network that has another 4 terabytes.
So much storage, and so much Crappy TV. OK so I make some of it too...

Now where are the Yankees in High Def... GEORGE????

EDITOR

Originally posted by mpsan
Well, the B&W center is causing me fits as no stand will hold it at 31+". I am going to mount it on a custom shelf, that matches my TheaterTech TT-400 stand. They are making it for me.

When I get the set I will look for the settings everyone says is best as well. Also, you bring back memories of Boston...I grew up in Hartford and used to go to Durgin Park when we were near there!

Anyway, I have stopped using all but my French Press! Love it!

Listen, the B&W's are awesome. Anything you have to do in the name f
DD 5.1 or DTS is worth the fuss. I went to U of H in Hartford. Worked at CPTV for awhile, adn the WVIT, where I was laid off. Best thing that ever happened to me. Went to NBC and worked Saturday Night Live & Sports, from there to CBS, now, http://www.netonevideo.com so Net*One is a culmination of 28+ years in professional broadcasting. THAT's WHY a QUALIA 006!

Now, if my source material would be Uncompressed Digital I could then die happy.

Editor

Gonna have an Iced Coffee now. Yankees 8-5 against the Birds. Game not over yet.

WOW, I went to U of H as well. Everyone I know is still in Hartford! I even helped FM start in Hartford (WHCN) with a guy who is now an AP Newsman in DC...the music was recorded on my 10 1/2" recorders...but I digress. :D

You know, my cousin, from Hartford, still works for CBS and does the sound for the News.

Anyway I have comcast. Will the Sony HDDVR get the guide on a channel like PBS?

P.S. I love the B&W's. Nautalis all around the room!

Originally posted by editor58
Listen, the B&W's are awesome. Anything you have to do in the name f
DD 5.1 or DTS is worth the fuss. I went to U of H in Hartford. Worked at CPTV for awhile, adn the WVIT, where I was laid off. Best thing that ever happened to me. Went to NBC and worked Saturday Night Live & Sports, from there to CBS, now, http://www.netonevideo.com so Net*One is a culmination of 28+ years in professional broadcasting. THAT's WHY a QUALIA 006!

Now, if my source material would be Uncompressed Digital I could then die happy.

Editor

Gonna have an Iced Coffee now. Yankees 8-5 against the Birds. Game not over yet.

well it's exactly 1 week to the hour that i first turned on my Q. My impressions after approx. 50 hrs of viewing? Just as out-freakng- standing as i felt on day 1. No, wait a minute. more so. i am more impressed as each hour of viewing goes by. i have thrown everything in my arsenal to get this thing to stumble. it continues to amaze me. This will be like getting people to eat green eggs and ham to convince them of it's superiority to most everything else. I just finished watching the IMAX re-released version of Apollo 13 on DVD. WOW! I didn't think LOTR could be beat!(Transfer wise) . One last thing. I compared the progressive on my pioneer 59avi vs using the Q and movie after movie, i always come back to using the Pioneer progressive upconverted to 1080i feeding the Q. Smoother,cleaner,more detailed. i adjusted reality and clarity and BN smoother too on the Q for hours on end. i tried and tried to get a better picture using the Q's scaler feeding it 480i from the pioneer. It is almost there but not quite.

MAJOR QUALIA 006 HD MOVIE ALERT:

ONCE UPON A TIME IN MEXICO- Saw it last night on HBOHD. PHENOMENAL PICTURE QUALITY!!!!

If you like gory (really gory) flicks, this is the one.

Worthy of a search for upcoming play times. You won't believe your eyes. The 006 continues to amaze me.
Definitely a film to record and archive to show off the 006 in all its glory.

I believe the new Sony HDD PVR's (the 500 and the 250) have cable card slots.

Originally posted by BenDover
I believe the new Sony HDD PVR's (the 500 and the 250) have cable card slots.

That's right; they both have CableCard and use the TVGuide program guide...

Mpgxsvcd, I went to check out the 006 at Audio Advice today. I walk in and what do you know it does look pretty much the same as the other TVs in the room. They were showing some HD nature show. So I decide to play with the remote and see if they are using some funky settings. It all seems fine. So I look at it a while and I notice it seems soft compared to what I see at home. I asked what there source was and they said it was satellite, I am using CableCard. I have them search for some other HD material and finally we find something that I consider a good HD picture. Here is where the 006 really separated itself. The show was very similar to the Spanish dancers on the JVC Beauty of Japan DVHS demo tape. There was a pair of dancers wearing very colorful outfits against a black stage. The other TVs looked washed out in comparison. A more expense Fujitsu plasma right next to it really failed to match up. You could clearly see details in there clothing that were not visible in any other TV in the room. It also had the best black level. The largely black background made some of the TVs, particularly the plasmas, look bad. I guess the message here is if the material is SD or average HD you may very well not see much difference. I have become spoiled and seek out great content because if is so addicting.


Maurice

Well, this is really going to p*ss some people off, but here goes anyway...

I was just at a local high-end A/V store buying some small satellite speakers. My daughter loves "The Fifth Element" -- which was playing just inside the front door on a smallish plasma. I ask the salesman if we can turn on the volume for her and he offers to let her watch it on the store's best HT room -- "The Full Monty" if you will, with fiber-optic ceiling etc., etc., etc... The PJ is Runco's top-of-the-line 3-chip DLP unit, a $40,000 unit using a 110" Stewart screen. Everything was calibrated to ISF specifications.

I have every version of "The Fifth Element". Saw it in the theater and know every frame. This is my first choice for setting up a monitor if I don't have the DVE disc or tape.

I don't love my Qualia so much that I can't see its' faults, and I fully expected to be blown away by the Runco. I was not -- in fact, I think watching films is more pleasurable on my Qualia. The Runco did some things better -- in absolute terms it has slightly more detail than the Qualia. This is probably more a function of the outboard "Pixel-for-Pixel" processor than anything else. In the DNA lab where they recreate Leeloo there is a discussion between the scientist and General Munro. A good test for detail resolution is to see how easily you can read the patch on Munro's chest. The Runco resolved this detail more fully than what I see on my Qualia (through my $275 Sony 975), but the difference is small.

BUT (and it's a mighty big but) -- the Runco has more of a randomized noise throughout the picture that is difficult to describe. It's almost like a very fine grainy shimmer to the picture that is evident in lighter areas of the picture. This setup had NONE of the film-like quality (most over-used term on the forum?) that I love in the Qualia. The picture struck me as artificial and digital. Edge detail looks far more natural on the Qualia.

Furthermore, the Qualia does blacks and shadow detail far better than the Runco. This was not even remotely close -- when Leeloo escapes from the DNA lab she crawls through a corrugated ventilation shaft to get outside. This is a torture test for most display devices that is very difficult to properly resolve. You have a thorough range of pure black to extreme white, with lot's of detail in the shadows. The Qualia resolves this beautifully, but the Runco just couldn't handle it -- no pure blacks, washed-out highlights, poor shadow details.

I fully realize it's tougher to make a great 110" picture than it is to make a great 70" picture. However, the Runco was in a pitch-black room; my Qualia works well in situations with normal ambient lighting.

I've always thought the Qualia was world-class in certain areas. I'm also sure there are people who might prefer the Runco. For me it was simply no contest. So, you can compare the Qualia to gear in the $3-5K range and marvel at why anyone would want to spend $13K for a display device -- or you can look at the performance of the set as a bargain in relative terms. I would love to be able to do head-to-head shootouts to see how much you'd have to spend to match or top the Qualia...

Guess this will probably add to the view outside this thread that we're a "cult"...

Curious how many here use a Harmony remote? I just got a 688... WOW! First time everything in the bedroom (NEC 42XR3A, Yamaha YSP-1 etc etc) has worked together with ONE remote.

Originally posted by mpsan

Anyway I have comcast. Will the Sony HDDVR get the guide on a channel like PBS?



Mitsubishi is supposed use TV Guide-- which is what many sets use that decode the information, but THAT software upgrade which was supposed to be in my 62" 825 DLP isn't there, and it was promised in December... January... February... March... Oh F#$K it! Between the white blotch on their TOP-O-Da-Line Mitsubishi TV and bullshit promises, I will own a Qualia 006 Monday Afternoon. I'll never really know how the guide will get onto their TV, if ever. However (i'm done ranting), The guide is supposed to be transmitted much like the card (access) recognition data. Remember, they can ping your card. I have Cablevision's Cable modem, hell, I think they can see my bank balance! That card is addressable albeit ONE WAY. You can't order out, but you can get data in. This is what the Spec calls for, and I hope Sony has gotten it to work in the HDD500.
It's pretty much a sure thing that the HDD is useless without a guide. and Tivo is a brick with out HD, but I digress.

mauricef- I fairly sure that any set you watch in a Best Buy or any truncated Multi-Video delivery system is gonna look like crap! It's the nature of the splitters. How much blood can you really get out of a stone. 2 Ounces! So after 5 TV's your signal distribution is garbage. The Sony 975 DVD with an HDMI output is what you should demand to view as a representation of a 480i/p signal. SD will show the flaws. Bring The Fifth Element, and make them play it. If you plan on buying it from them or can convince them that you are a serious shopper they should accommodate you. If not, speak to the manager, call the Corporate office and report the incident, and tell them that you plan to boycott their store and tell 500 of your friends to do the same.

BRT3 - Loved the Runco Review. If you're gonna get a FP system for a Theater set-up either the 004 or the Runco should be on your hit list. I've love Runco and the Faroudja Line doublers from way back. The nose is a little like film, and yea, you really need a Dark room. Blacks are always going to be an issue and as you have so brilliantly pointed out to us all, the Q beats the R so if I have that formula correct Q+006>R+F so Q= Infinity. Thank you (can you hear all that clapping????) A Fifth of Element for everyone at the Bar!! Thank you!!
(ya see, it's all just so much fun!)

Oh and BRT - after you have a Cable-card in the Q006, you call the cable Co and ask them for another cable car for the HDD500. Their response, " Look here Boy, we know yer trying to launch some nukclear missile from yer armchair en we ain't gonna give you anothah Card so you can a do it! So sit yer ass back down before we force you to watch Brian Seacrest for 90 hours straight. Cause yer a little pitchy".
(and the crowd goes wild!!)



NHEY - One Upon a Time... A MUST SEE!!! Right on!

Back to the Mitsubishi 62-825 at least for 2 Mo Days!

Editor

Originally posted by RonB63
Penton Man,

I'm flattered that you mentioned me by 'name.' This is Mrs. RonB63. Don't leave this board, you put some color in my day. BTW, this is my first post in this forum and it is TO YOU -- figured you needed a dash of estrogen in the room. Speaking of estrogen, let's all keep this girly bickering of late under control.

I really hope this new TV you're all @#$@ing over is kid proof.

XOXO

Bonnie, The Wife:D :D
My dearest Bonnie,

It is indeed my pleasure to welcome you to this forum as some real natural estrogen is most needed to balance the excessive aggression (testosterone induced, but of course) exhibited as of late.

Please do not be offended by any past or future sexual innuendos as I believe that many of us Qualians and Qualian watchers are inherently a horny lot and can not help ourselves.

Please consider it all to be a celebration of the grace and beauty of the *woman* whom I think alot of us here are devoted to.

P.S.
I believe that this TV is *kid proof* during non-viewing times with kaduku’s cover in place, one observer mentioning that the fit was analogous to a condom.

You must take his word on this as I myself ….being the elitist I am, have no such experience with such boundaries because during my past days of debauchery, all the wenches of the realm had no history of STD’s (as certified by the Royal Health Officer) and the Royals….ah the Royals…..well they all wore chastity belts to save themselves for moi. I never liked the concept of raincoats anyway.

But I digress, those were but more innocent times.

P.S.S.
Ummmm, you didn’t………. by any chance, teach Calculus at the Univ. of Virginia in the early seventies and are now posting under an alias first name ???:)

Originally posted by brt3

Guess this will probably add to the view outside this thread that we're a "cult"...
Well I sure as hell hope that they are referring to us as the "Qualia cult."

Originally posted by mpsan
...and add in 3 ReplayTV's! :D

I'm sorry, I'm from the Department of IP Department. Sir, You have used up all your IP quota, and your gonna have to give a few back.

It seems the Department of Intelligence has run a few IP's short and will need a few of yours.

As a gesture of good faith and as a Proud American Buying Foreign Japanese Televisions (cause we can't make anything anymore and outsource until we're broke) We ask you to acknowledge that we are taking back some IP's for our Intelligence Department of ahhh Intelligence.

thank YOU for your cooperation SIR!


editor

Originally posted by kanebear
Curious how many here use a Harmony remote? I just got a 688... WOW! First time everything in the bedroom (NEC 42XR3A, Yamaha YSP-1 etc etc) has worked together with ONE remote.

Actually I have an RTI T2, will probable go for the T3.

They made the Lexicon's. And I know one of the engineers personally.
VERY expensive but REALLY good!!

Editor

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Well I sure as hell hope that they are referring to us as the "Qualia cult."

The Qualia Cult (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=508037&perpage=20&pagenumber=20)

Originally posted by JimP
Sounds like you might have a lot of questions about the Qualia 006. You might want to take a look at the Qualia owners thread.

Originally posted by Auditor55:
I wouldn't recommend doing that, its more like a cult than a owners thread. He might get scared and never come back to the AVS forum.

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Originally posted by RonB63
Penton Man,

I'm flattered that you mentioned me by 'name.' This is Mrs. RonB63. Don't leave this board, you put some color in my day. BTW, this is my first post in this forum and it is TO YOU -- figured you needed a dash of estrogen in the room. Speaking of estrogen, let's all keep this girly bickering of late under control.

I really hope this new TV you're all @#$@ing over is kid proof.

XOXO

Bonnie, The Wife:D :D

Hey Bonnie (da Wife):

Welcome to the Forum. Ca'mon you know that we don't buy $13K TV's without consulting you first...

So can I get one huh?? please...pretty please!!! It goes with any decore, and it matches your new shoes.. and those jeans you bought, which BTW have I mentioned makes your - - - look so slim and attractive. So can I get it huh please???? Honey??? :D :D :D

Just another Smart Ass Editor.

Originally posted by brt3
The Qualia Cult (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=508037&perpage=20&pagenumber=20)



Originally posted by Auditor55:
I wouldn't recommend doing that, its more like a cult than a owners thread. He might get scared and never come back to the AVS forum.

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It's NOT officially a CULT unless a Sneaker Company is our Sponsor.

REBOK -- R U Interested?

NIKE is already taken!!

-Ed it OR

editor58, I already have a 006. I was just checking it out at a local HiFi store because Mpgxsvcd said he could not see any appreciable difference between the 006 and the other TVs on display. It made me curious so I had to investigate myself.

As long as we are all asking for permission, hope you saw The Buckets (http://www.comics.com/comics/buckets/archive/buckets-20050407.html) comic the other day. :D

PS my wife said no too!

Originally posted by brt3

Originally posted by Auditor55:
I wouldn't recommend doing that, its more like a cult than a owners thread. He might get scared and never come back to the AVS forum.

I guess we now know why the moderators hardily ever come around here.
For the same reason that cops don’t go into certain neighborhoods ?????

B.T.W. – Wilson, thanks for watching my back.

They do, but without QAM they will not be able to get the in-the-clear stations, will they...like INHD?

Originally posted by BenDover
I believe the new Sony HDD PVR's (the 500 and the 250) have cable card slots.

OK, I promise to not use 192.168.123.20 very much (unless I am fixing a laptop for someone at work) and can will it to The U of H! Does that give me a tax write off?

Originally posted by editor58
I'm sorry, I'm from the Department of IP Department. Sir, You have used up all your IP quota, and your gonna have to give a few back.

It seems the Department of Intelligence has run a few IP's short and will need a few of yours.

As a gesture of good faith and as a Proud American Buying Foreign Japanese Televisions (cause we can't make anything anymore and outsource until we're broke) We ask you to acknowledge that we are taking back some IP's for our Intelligence Department of ahhh Intelligence.

thank YOU for your cooperation SIR!


editor

Originally posted by mauricef
editor58, I already have a 006. I was just checking it out at a local HiFi store because Mpgxsvcd said he could not see any appreciable difference between the 006 and the other TVs on display. It made me curious so I had to investigate myself.

Yea... I understood that, so unless I read into it wrong, you pretty much confirmed that their signal source sux'd, just like every other MULTI-source store set-up...

I saw the Q006 at my friends AV store. He has a few isolated Component Taps, but it was hooked into a line that had a 60 cycle hum bar going through the picture. It was still VERY evident even with that, the Qualia was vastly superior to anything else in his showroom.

I assume you love the 006!!

May your lamp burn bright for 10,000 hours!!

-editor

Originally posted by mpsan
They do, but without QAM they will not be able to get the in-the-clear stations, will they...like INHD?

The fact that it has a cable card slot means that it can do QAM. The cable card merely allows it to receive encrypted content. The unit would need to posess the ATSC tuner with QAM decoding.

[EDIT: The marketing spec sheet indicates that it does have a "Cable Digital Clear (QAM) HD Tuner" and an "EPG (analog and digital channels)"

If you go to Sony's Support Site (http://esupport.sony.com/perl/model-documents.pl?mdl=DHGHDD500) you can check out the marketing spec sheet as well as the manual.

The manual indicates that it uses Gemstar's TV-Guide for the EPG.]

Speaking of wives and their acceptance/approval of the Q006, my Sony stand was delivered yesterday and my wife is freaking out over its size...LOL

yeah, and then they say size doesn't matter. Remind her of that. lol

Originally posted by brt3

Guess this will probably add to the view outside this thread that we're a "cult"...

I think what they really mean is C.U.L.T.

Completely Unbelievable Luscious Television ;)

Originally posted by BenDover
Speaking of wives and their acceptance/approval of the Q006, my Sony stand was delivered yesterday and my wife is freaking out over its size...LOL

Same thing happened here. My wife keep laughing for about 30 minutes and we have a large room with 16 foot ceiling.

She did get used to it pretty fast.

Dilbert1

Hey Ben...:D

When my wife saw the Q006, she wanted it more than me. I guess 38 years taught me something.

Perhaps I should write a book of instructions on how to make your wife want the same things you do. Football will not be included (go 9'ers)!

Originally posted by BenDover
Speaking of wives and their acceptance/approval of the Q006, my Sony stand was delivered yesterday and my wife is freaking out over its size...LOL

Edit: OK, page 85 of the manual does show QAM! They do say that not everyone will be able to get the TVGuide info. What's up with that?


I will look at the link again. I just did not notice the QAM stuff. This is one product that I will wait a little bit for. It is a "firstwave owners" job to get one first and let us know how it does. It is being released a few days before my Birthday, but at my age who cares!

The Old Geek!

MP

Originally posted by BenDover
The fact that it has a cable card slot means that it can do QAM. The cable card merely allows it to receive encrypted content. The unit would need to posess the ATSC tuner with QAM decoding.

[EDIT: The marketing spec sheet indicates that it does have a "Cable Digital Clear (QAM) HD Tuner" and an "EPG (analog and digital channels)"

If you go to Sony's Support Site (http://esupport.sony.com/perl/model-documents.pl?mdl=DHGHDD500) you can check out the marketing spec sheet as well as the manual.

The manual indicates that it uses Gemstar's TV-Guide for the EPG.]

Originally posted by mauricef
Mpgxsvcd, I went to check out the 006 at Audio Advice today. I walk in and what do you know it does look pretty much the same as the other TVs in the room. They were showing some HD nature show. So I decide to play with the remote and see if they are using some funky settings. It all seems fine. So I look at it a while and I notice it seems soft compared to what I see at home. I asked what there source was and they said it was satellite, I am using CableCard. I have them search for some other HD material and finally we find something that I consider a good HD picture. Here is where the 006 really separated itself. The show was very similar to the Spanish dancers on the JVC Beauty of Japan DVHS demo tape. There was a pair of dancers wearing very colorful outfits against a black stage. The other TVs looked washed out in comparison. A more expense Fujitsu plasma right next to it really failed to match up. You could clearly see details in there clothing that were not visible in any other TV in the room. It also had the best black level. The largely black background made some of the TVs, particularly the plasmas, look bad. I guess the message here is if the material is SD or average HD you may very well not see much difference. I have become spoiled and seek out great content because if is so addicting.


Maurice,
Thanks for taking the time for visiting the store and clarifiying what I already suspected.

For those who aren't aware, here is UMRs review of the 006.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=528907

Originally posted by mpsan
Edit: OK, page 85 of the manual does show QAM! They do say that not everyone will be able to get the TVGuide info. What's up with that?


I will look at the link again. I just did not notice the QAM stuff. This is one product that I will wait a little bit for. It is a "firstwave owners" job to get one first and let us know how it does. It is being released a few days before my Birthday, but at my age who cares!

The Old Geek!

MP

OH BOY.. Ohhhh Boy, here we go again. This guide is available in the Mitsubishi 62" 825 model. It does NOT work in my set, because the a-holes at Mitsubishi STILL have NOT gotten a software patch in my current set. This is moot because the set is going back on Monday and the 006 arrives. Before I spent a Grand on a 500 Gig Drive, and licensed software made by one company --implemented by another, I wanna be damn sure the performance has been rehearsed!!

With TIVO, you get a phone hook up, which to me really isn't that bad. Sony tells you to turn off the DVR when not in use presumably to allow the the cable card to update the TV guide data. Are you also aware that TV guide feeds all kinds of ads in the sidebars, where TIVO does not. Maybe the bandwidth can't handle the Download of Guide Data. My issue is I have no first hand information about the TV guide interface and Cablevision NY's ability to deliver the data.

As of now, cablevision can't even deliver more than a handful of HD channels and the Yankees ( a # 1 Team in a # 1 Market) in Hi-def. It's a damn disgrace. I just watched parts of the Blue Jay's and Boston on INHD. While there was absolutely some artifacting, and compression issues, it was still FAR superior to SD and the sidebars of the Yankees.
I may have to buy One share of stock, and then go a shareholders meeting and rip them a new one. Instead of trying to buy Adelphia they should fix their system here first. Oh, I'm sorry, I went off point while I was going off... I guess I'd want to contact Cablevision to find out if they passed that data. But how would a dufus in their call center know... hmmmm... they can hardly find your account when you call them. This question is like the matre'd at a restaurant who look right at two people and asks "How many are you?" ... "Thank you for calling Cablevision, can I help you?" Nah, I don't think so, let's just call it a day!

Editor

Originally posted by schaffer970
As long as we are all asking for permission, hope you saw The Buckets (http://www.comics.com/comics/buckets/archive/buckets-20050407.html) comic the other day. :D

PS my wife said no too!

Cartoon... VERY PHUNNY.

Getting the wife's approal on the TV was no problem, I told her it was
my only chance at sanity. Facing that she caved!

-editor

Originally posted by editor58
OH BOY.. Ohhhh Boy, here we go again. This guide is available in the Mitsubishi 62" 825 model. It does NOT work in my set, because the a-holes at Mitsubishi STILL have NOT gotten a software patch in my current set. This is moot because the set is going back on Monday and the 006 arrives. Before I spent a Grand on a 500 Gig Drive, and licensed software made by one company --implemented by another, I wanna be damn sure the performance has been rehearsed!!

With TIVO, you get a phone hook up, which to me really isn't that bad. Sony tells you to turn off the DVR when not in use presumably to allow the the cable card to update the TV guide data. Are you also aware that TV guide feeds all kinds of ads in the sidebars, where TIVO does not. Maybe the bandwidth can't handle the Download of Guide Data. My issue is I have no first hand information about the TV guide interface and Cablevision NY's ability to deliver the data.

As of now, cablevision can't even deliver more than a handful of HD channels and the Yankees ( a # 1 Team in a # 1 Market) in Hi-def. It's a damn disgrace. I just watched parts of the Blue Jay's and Boston on INHD. While there was absolutely some artifacting, and compression issues, it was still FAR superior to SD and the sidebars of the Yankees.
I may have to buy One share of stock, and then go a shareholders meeting and rip them a new one. Instead of trying to buy Adelphia they should fix their system here first. Oh, I'm sorry, I went off point while I was going off... I guess I'd want to contact Cablevision to find out if they passed that data. But how would a dufus in their call center know... hmmmm... they can hardly find your account when you call them. This question is like the matre'd at a restaurant who look right at two people and asks "How many are you?" ... "Thank you for calling Cablevision, can I help you?" Nah, I don't think so, let's just call it a day!

Editor

I've got an old, SD, CRT based RCA TV that has GuidePlus and it gets the guide info no problem...I am a NY Cablevision subscriber.

BTW, it isn't the cable card that downloads the guide but the tv itself. one of the drawbacks of the cable card (at least for now with the one way cards) is that you can't take advantage of the guide that you would otherwise have access to with your cable company's digital cable box. cable companies seem to do everything humanly imaginable to dissuade customers from using cable card at this point in time. heck, cablevision claims there are only 1 or two people in the NY/NJ area that even know how to install the cable card and get it working.

you lucky Q 006 owners, reminder, Universal HD starts airing the first season of Battlestar Galactica in HD today!!!

I would be interested in hearing just how sweet it is to view this show on the Q :)

Originally posted by BenDover
I've got an old, SD, CRT based RCA TV that has GuidePlus and it gets the guide info no problem...I am a NY Cablevision subscriber.

BTW, it isn't the cable card that downloads the guide but the tv itself. TRUNCATED - heck, cablevision claims there are only 1 or two people in the NY/NJ area that even know how to install the cable card and get it working.

I've met all three of the installers. I had a bad Sci-Atlanta Card, replaced first day. Cablevision SUX!

The tuner in the set does the decode, yes thank you. The TV has to be able to do it, or in this case the DVR. Early Adoption can be hazardous to your wallet!

-editor

Originally posted by BenDover
you lucky Q 006 owners, reminder, Universal HD starts airing the first season of Battlestar Galactica in HD today!!!

I would be interested in hearing just how sweet it is to view this show on the Q :)
They ran the mini-series pilot back in February and I still have on my HDTiVo. It's pretty clear that it was originally shot on film--it has a lot of grain in the out-of-focus areas. I want to say more than usual, but that could be a result of higher compression (compared to HBO HD) or just my imagination.

On the other hand, it has a lot of outer-space shots which are excellent for showing off deep blacks. This was an example of something that my friend with a new Sony LCD set said the Qualia did MUCH better than his LCD.

--Dwayne

darn, i knew i should have waited for the HD version. i have a hard time watching things twice.

Originally posted by JimP
For those who aren't aware, here is UMRs review of the 006.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=528907
Well if I’m reading umr correctly after a quick perusal of his review, it appears that my speculation on the “Sony jumps” thread that this display is happiest in receiving a 1080i signal may turn out correct.

Perhaps you guys that have the Sony DVD players should do some A/B comparisons with 480i vs 1080i. :)

Where to get HDMI cables update: After purchasing my HDMI through RAM electronics I thought I had gotten a bit of a deal (50 something after shipping) but the one I received was defective (move the cord and lose your picture swapping the ends swapped which side dropped picture so obviously a short somewhere). I am going to send that one back but as I was at SAMS CLUB I saw HDMI cables for 22 dollars! This seems a pretty safe way to test out that connection type.

A comment on the Sony 975 HDMI aspect: I find it hard to tell what degree of black is or isn't being passed anyone have a great scene to be able to check (perhaps in the Matrix)? For now I keep hitting my video settings on the dvd until to go to memory setting with Picture -2 and Brightness -2 although I had heard at least one person claim that with the 1.9 firmware that isn't necessary.

My stand is due in this Tuesday so finally the wife should let me take some pictures in-situ currently the "on top of a dresser with drawers removed to make room for theatre parts" just isn't too aesthetically appealing.

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Well if I’m reading umr correctly after a quick perusal of his review, it appears that my speculation on the “Sony jumps” thread that this display is happiest in receiving a 1080i signal may turn out correct.

Perhaps you guys that have the Sony DVD players should do some A/B comparisons with 480i vs 1080i. :)

Further, it would appear that you want to connect digitally, either HDMI or iLink.

...also, do you Have to have a cablecard in order to get guide info? It would also be fun to hook up an external HardDrive to the USB port to see what happens. At any rate, if I spring for one of these the local dealer will have to let me try it first...even if it is his demo!

Originally posted by editor58
OH BOY.. Ohhhh Boy, here we go again. This guide is available in the Mitsubishi 62" 825 model. It does NOT work in my set, because the a-holes at Mitsubishi STILL have NOT gotten a software patch in my current set. This is moot because the set is going back on Monday and the 006 arrives. Before I spent a Grand on a 500 Gig Drive, and licensed software made by one company --implemented by another, I wanna be damn sure the performance has been rehearsed!!

With TIVO, you get a phone hook up, which to me really isn't that bad. Sony tells you to turn off the DVR when not in use presumably to allow the the cable card to update the TV guide data. Are you also aware that TV guide feeds all kinds of ads in the sidebars, where TIVO does not. Maybe the bandwidth can't handle the Download of Guide Data. My issue is I have no first hand information about the TV guide interface and Cablevision NY's ability to deliver the data.

As of now, cablevision can't even deliver more than a handful of HD channels and the Yankees ( a # 1 Team in a # 1 Market) in Hi-def. It's a damn disgrace. I just watched parts of the Blue Jay's and Boston on INHD. While there was absolutely some artifacting, and compression issues, it was still FAR superior to SD and the sidebars of the Yankees.
I may have to buy One share of stock, and then go a shareholders meeting and rip them a new one. Instead of trying to buy Adelphia they should fix their system here first. Oh, I'm sorry, I went off point while I was going off... I guess I'd want to contact Cablevision to find out if they passed that data. But how would a dufus in their call center know... hmmmm... they can hardly find your account when you call them. This question is like the matre'd at a restaurant who look right at two people and asks "How many are you?" ... "Thank you for calling Cablevision, can I help you?" Nah, I don't think so, let's just call it a day!

Editor

Originally posted by mpsan
...also, do you Have to have a cablecard in order to get guide info? It would also me fun to hook up an external HardDrive to the USB port to see what happens. At any rate, if I spring for one of these the local dealer will have to let me try it first...even if it is his demo!

AND HOW!! Your other statement is what my 14 year old would say... dumb!! (Quote - do you Have to have a cablecard)

If it has a slot, it must be filled... it's the nature of MAN. :D
ALL SLOTS MUST BE FILLED! I believe it may be a law too....

Empty connectors get you nowhere:D

You have been EDITED!

-editor

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Well if I’m reading umr correctly after a quick perusal of his review, it appears that my speculation on the “Sony jumps” thread that this display is happiest in receiving a 1080i signal may turn out correct.

Perhaps you guys that have the Sony DVD players should do some A/B comparisons with 480i vs 1080i. :)

I have also switched back to 1080i over hdmi, which seems to produce a better PQ.

Originally posted by editor58
AND HOW!! Your other statement is what my 14 year old would say... dumb!! (Quote - do you Have to have a cablecard)

If it has a slot, it must be filled... it's the nature of MAN. :D
ALL SLOTS MUST BE FILLED! I believe it may be a law too....

Empty connectors get you nowhere:D

You have been EDITED!

-editor

if you hook up an AVHDD to the Q it should allow you to control it to record both sd and hd.

HUH? I do not know what you mean by dumb. I have two TV's with CableCard slots and get In-the-clear HD just fine...without a CC... like INHD and INHD2.


Originally posted by editor58
AND HOW!! Your other statement is what my 14 year old would say... dumb!! (Quote - do you Have to have a cablecard)

If it has a slot, it must be filled... it's the nature of MAN. :D
ALL SLOTS MUST BE FILLED! I believe it may be a law too....

Empty connectors get you nowhere:D

You have been EDITED!

-editor

Somebody asked how the PQ of the Masters at Augusta was on the Q006. I have been busy during the week and decided just to watch the final round today. CBS has done an excellent job on the HD broadcast. It's just a dream to watch it on the Q006. Looks like it's gonna be number four for Tiger :D

Originally posted by mpsan
HUH? I do not know what you mean by dumb. I have two TV's with CableCard slots and get In-the-clear HD just fine...without a CC... like INHD and INHD2.

I don't think he meant you're dumb -- I think he may be referring to the idea of how ridiculous it would be for us elitist audio/videophiles to have an unused input or CableCard slot -- the horror, the horror...

OH I take nothing personal on these forums. Actually, I think he even made me return an IP didn't he? :D

I will have to try the 480i and 1080i on my 975 and see how they compare...but no Q006 'til Wednesday!

Originally posted by brt3
I don't think he meant you're dumb -- I think he may be referring to the idea of how ridiculous it would be for us elitist audio/videophiles to have an unused input or CableCard slot -- the horror, the horror...