I have a Comcast (Motorola) cable box connected to Input 6 on my Qualia. I had an intermittent problem: when switching to cable on Input 6, the picture would display properly for about three seconds and then the screen would go blank. I could switch to another input which would work perfectly. I switch back to Input 6 and again get the picture for just a few seconds.

At the moment, the problem has gone away, but I'm concerned about it. Much appreciate any thoughts.

My son is at West Point so I do go up to the NY area.

Do you have another son or daughter going to school in the SF area? :)

I have a Comcast (Motorola) cable box connected to Input 6 on my Qualia. I had an intermittent problem: when switching to cable on Input 6, the picture would display properly for about three seconds and then the screen would go blank. I could switch to another input which would work perfectly. I switch back to Input 6 and again get the picture for just a few seconds.

At the moment, the problem has gone away, but I'm concerned about it. Much appreciate any thoughts.

How about connecting it to Input 7 and if it continues then it's probably your cables. Otherwise, I think it may be you Comcast box.

I had the same prob lem with my MOT 6412 on input 6 about 4 weeks ago. It got fixed and never returned when I replaced a bad HD Tivo box on I nput 7. Somehow the bad Tivo on Input 7 affected the MOT 6412 on Input 6 exactly the way you described it. Hope this helps.

UMR
Thanks for the excellent reply. You cleared up the mystery. Are there any other Qualians in South Florida who would like to share a UMR trip here?
Bernie

First, thanks to the many helpful members of this forum I purchased my Qualia sight unseen. I am now an official member of the CLUB. I live in upstate NY with a lakehome in NE Pa where I had my Qualia installed. A personal friend (big Sony dealer -and top pf the line appliances) who I do do alot of business with in my Real Estate Development business could not get me a Qualia even though he is part of a Sony network. Thru the Forum I was able to find out about DOCDVD. Who got me my Qualia and at a great price. Josh also traveled from Atlanta and we spent a great day togeather last week, me mostly watching him calibrate my Qualia, my DVD, my total Surrond system etc. I think you get the idea. There was a significant PQ improvement from pre to post calibration, especially in the black detail. My picture is amazing. Do I recommend calibration absolutly, why spend this kind paper on a peice of technology and not maximizing its full potential.
I am awaiting the BluRay and the new Lumagen scaler for my non DEF programming then I'm done.

Welcome marcsmul...that is one fine set to be sitting in a home that probably doesn't get used all that much :) I was just this morning thinking of how I could justify putting in a nice home theater set up in my beach house.

Thanks for the post, always great to hear from new owners.

I would imagine that the Qualia006 service menu is not that different from the GWIV/GWV models. Has any owner here looked at the service menu? I'm really disappointed if no one has.

For those of you with the willingness, you can probably acheive PQ improvements in much the same way that GWIV owners have.

I've worked with several GWIV's and they all, as UMR pointed out, have filtering in various levels applied to different inputs. The "ringing" -type effect mentioned in was it TPV or WSR can probably be ameliorated by adjusting the filtering params. It definitely is on the GWIV's.

If I had one of these puppies I would be in the SM the first day. If you read up enough on the Sony's you will discover that there is a master reset in case you loose yourself.

Sean

I would imagine that the Qualia006 service menu is not that different from the GWIV/GWV models. Has any owner here looked at the service menu?

Click here (http://homepage.mac.com/raythompson/SonyQualia006/FileSharing32.html); download the file named "Diagnostics"...

Click here (http://homepage.mac.com/raythompson/SonyQualia006/FileSharing32.html); download the file named "Diagnostics"...

HMMMM...Identical to the GWIV. ;)

GEllis, those issues have been in the past associated with the HDMI firmware in the STB, normally not being up to par and having handshake issues with the Sony. It's not the HDMI input on the Sony. I had similar issues using DVI-HDMI on my old pioneer cable box as well.

Cheers

I just scimmed the owner's manual. The similarities with the GW LCD rear projectors leads me to think that the LCD line may be replaced with SXRD sooner rather than later. There are many more similarities in things right down to the user menu than I imagined. The manual probably only has a few pages worth of text different from a GWIV XS manual; the service menu access and layout is the same...etc.

Hopefully next year's Sony line will have SXRD sets at a reasonable price point.

I just scimmed the owner's manual. The similarities with the GW LCD rear projectors leads me to think that the LCD line may be replaced with SXRD sooner rather than later. There are many more similarities in things right down to the user menu than I imagined. The manual probably only has a few pages worth of text different from a GWIV XS manual; the service menu access and layout is the same...etc.

Hopefully next year's Sony line will have SXRD sets at a reasonable price point.

Please tell us exactly which parameters are the "filtering parameters" and how to get to them (which submenu are they in?), and what the suggested changes are, and I'll let you know if those settings are in the 006 service menu. I think UMR has a lot of experience with the LCD sets, and probably tried the same tweaks in the 006 and hit pay dirt. UMR - true?

nhey,

Check the thread "UMR does Gran Wega III". If I remember correctly (I don't have my spreadsheet here at work) they are under the "MID1" and "MID2" param sections. You use the "2" and "5" keys to change sections and the "1" and "4" keys to move to individual params; then "3" and "6" to change the values; "Mute" + "Ent" saves. If you search the threads you will find what you need. "SHFO" and another related param seemed to minimize the ringing effect. I'll try to find the thread link by tomorrow as I'm just leaving work now.

Sean

Welcome marcsmul...that is one fine set to be sitting in a home that probably doesn't get used all that much :) I was just this morning thinking of how I could justify putting in a nice home theater set up in my beach house.

Thanks for the post, always great to hear from new owners.


BenDover, I have always enjoyed your posts, the lakehouse is becoming our permanent home, the geography comments were to make you and Neo aware of the fact, if you did not know, that DOCDVD came to calibrate my Qualia and really calibtrated my entire system. There was a vast improvement from the posted calibration settings, there fore my reccomendation and info that Josh traveled to fit my schedule and besides just calabrating my equipment answered all my questions, set up my 880 and made an enjoyable experience even more enjoyable. You might look into coordinating a joint calibration trip to reduce the cost. I wish I knew where you guys were located and interested before I set up my calibration (we could have done a triple. I hope you have as great an experience as I did. The picture is incredable and my 3 sons initally critical of the idea and insisting I wait now think their dad is the smart one in the family. The Queen and the pooch are very happy as well.

Qualia Viewers Alert: watching "Six Feet Under" on HBO-HD -- wow! I've seen it in HiDef before, but this is like watching an entirely different show. During the intro there's a scene (near the end) where a crow is perched on a tombstone, and the camera moves in for a close up. Unreal; the level of fine detail is truly stunning. The crow is jet black; you can see every filament in every feather. Check it out...

Qualia Viewers Alert: watching "Six Feet Under" on HBO-HD -- wow! I've seen it in HiDef before, but this is like watching an entirely different show. During the intro there's a scene (near the end) where a crow is perched on a tombstone, and the camera moves in for a close up. Unreal; the level of fine detail is truly stunning. The crow is jet black; you can see every filament in every feather. Check it out...

Hey Ray,
Since we have QRD (Qualia Reference Disc) for DVDs, would you call this a QVA.
I've never watched "Six Feet Under", but now will be looking out for it. :)

...

The picture is incredable and my 3 sons initally critical of the idea and insisting I wait now think their dad is the smart one in the family. The Queen and the pooch are very happy as well.


Now that has to be one of those rare events in life, when your children think you are the smart one in the family...I know I never gave my Dad that satisfaction until we were both much older :D

Even better that the wife is also very happy...my wife is still having problems with the Harmony remotes but that is just b/c she is very "resistant".

I'm located in the suburbs of Long Island. I'll have to see whether it will be easier to have umr or Josh do a calibration. BTW, how many hours of viewing did you log before the calibration? It would be really interesting to see a plot or something of bulb performance over time.

I guess no one here has U-571...I've tried tweaking some settings to get the false contours do go away but haven't been successful...I'm going to pop it in another player/display and see if it is possibly source related.

BenDover,

I checked it on a calibrated 720p Brillian and I can see a little contouring, but I would not call it horrible. Calibration can definately effect these things.

nhey,

Look here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=331875) for more info on the Sony service menu.

Sean

Hello ALL Harmony and Q owners.

I am tired of all the remotes I have and was wondering if the Harmony allows a large enough delay to turn on the Q and switch to the required input? It would be great to control the X10 as well!

I am looking for the 880, but sometimes wonder if the 676 would be a better deal. At any rate, both share the same DB and I will likely go for the 880. I have so many older Universal remotes, like the IRIQ, but am impressed that the Harmony even supports my Meridian 568!

Hello ALL Harmony and Q owners.

I am tired of all the remotes I have and was wondering if the Harmony allows a large enough delay to turn on the Q and switch to the required input? It would be great to control the X10 as well!

I am looking for the 880, but sometimes wonder if the 676 would be a better deal. At any rate, both share the same DB and I will likely go for the 880. I have so many older Universal remotes, like the IRIQ, but am impressed that the Harmony even supports my Meridian 568!


Yes it does!!!

Great! Did you need to program pauses or does the Q respond before the screen is lit?

Yes it does!!!

Great! Did you need to program pauses or does the Q respond before the screen is lit?


I didn't program any delays separate from what was already in the Harmony DB for the Q.

Same here. The 880 works just fine using "Watch TV" out of the box.

Cheers

I guess no one here has U-571...I've tried tweaking some settings to get the false contours do go away but haven't been successful...I'm going to pop it in another player/display and see if it is possibly source related.

i have u571. let me know what chapter to look for it and i will check it out too.

Thanks Ben and Joel. Joel, do you have a Watch DVD that turns the Q on and switches to Input 6...or an HDMI input?

Same here. The 880 works just fine using "Watch TV" out of the box.

Cheers

Yet another 6412 question... :D

I am asking this here as you Q elite will know what I am talking about. My Meridian will auto switch depending on the Digital Stream going to it.

When I output the 6412 Coax Digital Audio to the Proc, it goes to Digital THX (5.1) on HD Stations.

However, every other device, like my replay will switch it to Pro Logic II. The 6412, tuned to an SD Stereo station causes the Meridian to flash Pro Logic II, and then switch to Digital THX again. Is it possible the reason is the 6412 outputs a DD stream? Is there a setting on the 6412 that can be changed? There is not much to change on the audio menu, but it makes a difference. One I did not expect to hear using Coax Audio out!

DiverDude ..... You be careful out there man !!!!!!





Monster shark swallows diver in Jaws-style attack

FRED BRIDGLAND
IN JOHANNESBURG

A SCUBA diver was swallowed almost whole by a great white shark yesterday in a Jaws-style attack just offshore from Cape Town.

Conservationists are now expecting renewed calls for killer sharks to be hunted down following the death of medical student Henri Murray, 22 - the latest in a series of attacks. Great whites have been a protected species in South African waters since 1990, but calls for a cull have been growing following the deaths of several South African swimmers and surfers this year.

Two British surfers survived - although one needed 200 stitches to leg wounds and the other had to have 100 stitches to torn hips and buttocks. In yesterday's attack, Mr Murray's diving partner, 23-year-old Piet van Niekerk, shot the great white with his speargun in a desperate attempt to drive it away, but he did not see his friend again.

Dave Estment, a yachtsman, was sitting on the jetty at Simon's Town, near Cape Town, when he saw the great white breach the surface.

"It was incredibly fast. The two spear fishermen were not far from the beach. Suddenly a huge shark surged from under the water taking the one diver [from his legs upwards] to his arms in its jaws," he said.

"It must have been massive to have done that. Then the shark and the man just vanished." Other witnesses to the attack estimated the shark's length at 20 feet.

Hundreds of onlookers lined the coastal road yesterday as a helicopter, police diver and boat search was carried out in an unsuccessful attempt to find the body of Mr Murray, who was studying at the University of Stellenbosch.

Divers from the National Sea Rescue Institute (NSRI) recovered a weightbelt - so damaged that it looked as though it had been sliced through with a knife - a mask, a speargun, a rubber flipper and a buoy with speared fish that had been attached to a trailing line.

NSRI spokesman Craig Lambinon said he believed the shark could have been attracted by the fish. Great white shark tour operators, who lower visitors in cages among the great whites, use chopped-up fish to lure sharks to the cages.

Dr Cleeve Robertson, head of Cape Town's emergency services, said Mr Van Niekerk, a university friend of Mr Murray, was extremely traumatised by the attack.

He and members of Mr Murray's family were receiving counselling.

Dr Robertson said the spear, designed for smaller fish, was unlikely to have caused much damage to the great white.

i have u571. let me know what chapter to look for it and i will check it out too.

hifi, i have it recorded in hd on my dvr so i don't have chapter references (nor time references either since the gui on my dvr doesn't seem to provide such useful info :) )

it is near the very end, probably the second to last, or last, chapter on a dvd. they are diving to 200m to avoid the depth charges in the final barrage.

Thanks Ben and Joel. Joel, do you have a Watch DVD that turns the Q on and switches to Input 6...or an HDMI input?

in my setup, i have my digital cable box connected to input 7 and my dvd player connected to input 6 so that when i press watch dvd, it has to switch the input to 6 and similarly, when pressing watch tv, it switches to 7. if you are experiencing problems, you can adjust the delay that the remote uses to send a command to the q or even have it repeat for a longer duration.

Thanks Ben, that sounds great. I guess the pricewars begin in a few more days. Some people sure seem to have USB issues, etc.


in my setup, i have my digital cable box connected to input 7 and my dvd player connected to input 6 so that when i press watch dvd, it has to switch the input to 6 and similarly, when pressing watch tv, it switches to 7. if you are experiencing problems, you can adjust the delay that the remote uses to send a command to the q or even have it repeat for a longer duration.

With 25 years of engineering and R&D experience working with very dangerous processes and complex instrumentation I believe I have a little different skill level
Tell me umr,
I’ve got this atom in the back yard with these pesky electrons spinning around it ----that are extremely annoying to the Royal Pouch.

When I eventually have you calibrate my 006, can you also split that atom out back for an extra fee?:D

Do you have another son or daughter going to school in the SF area? :)
If not, for those in the SF area, you have an alternative. I know of a calibrator with impeccable credentials (one feather (among many others) in his cap being -the Reference Calibrator for Widescreen Review) who apparently plans to begin calibrating an 006 or two in the next week or so and works almost exclusively out of Northern California.

Could he be imminently doing a calibration job for a fellow forum Qualian? Only the eye in the sky knows.

That said, will he "go the extra mile" for his clients?
Time will tell.

At this moment, umr would still be my numero uno choice, I believe he's way ahead in the 006 tweak-learning curve and is motivated to "go the extra mile".

nhey,

Look here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=331875) for more info on the Sony service menu.
Sean
Careful nhey, remember this possibly prophetic post by umr after he did his first 006 tweak job........

"I said in the review that I didn't change anything in the service mode. I didn't find any service parameters that functioned like other Sony sets that I've seen."

Gotta go folks.

Signing off.

QUOTE=BenDover]hifi, i have it recorded in hd on my dvr so i don't have chapter references (nor time references either since the gui on my dvr doesn't seem to provide such useful info :) )

it is near the very end, probably the second to last, or last, chapter on a dvd. they are diving to 200m to avoid the depth charges in the final barrage.[/QUOTE]

bendover, the chapter is actually called 200m. i watched the entire chapter and then some. no false contouring at all that i could see. the water is somewhat greenish and the shades blend very nicely.

bendover, the chapter is actually called 200m. i watched the entire chapter and then some. no false contouring at all that i could see. the water is somewhat greenish and the shades blend very nicely.

i see it, particularly, on the body of the sub as it is descending/ascending in the darkness of the ocean...look at the sub, top to bottom.

Looking for feedback...

I just purchased a APC Smart UPS 1000 XL, and here is my thought...

At any given time, I have a RPTV, Pre-amp, Amp (100x7), HD PVR powered on, all plugged into a Monster power distribution center (HST 3600).

What I would like to do is plug the HST 3600 into the Smart UPS-1000 and call it a day. All I need is for the UPS to power the system for 5 minutes after a failure, and to kick on when there is a brown out. Looking at the HST 3600, the system does not use more than 6 amps at any given time. Any reason I should not do this?

I really wanted the Monster AVS 2000, but need to cool the RPTV in the case of a power failure, and Monster does not do that. It was also far cheaper to just get the UPS...

i see it, particularly, on the body of the sub as it is descending/ascending in the darkness of the ocean...look at the sub, top to bottom.

i re-reviewed again. i do not see any signs of false contouring or any other abnormalities. i looked at the water,the sub inside and out , anything that even remotely looks like false contouring. i do not see it. i am in warm,pro modes. also, my set is calibrated, but that should have nothing to do with it. have u tried viewing it from the actual dvd?

i re-reviewed again. i do not see any signs of false contouring or any other abnormalities. ... my set is calibrated, but that should have nothing to do with it. have u tried viewing it from the actual dvd?

Actually, it can have a large impact on false contouring if done properly.

Looking for feedback...

I just purchased a APC Smart UPS 1000 XL, and here is my thought...

At any given time, I have a RPTV, Pre-amp, Amp (100x7), HD PVR powered on, all plugged into a Monster power distribution center (HST 3600).

What I would like to do is plug the HST 3600 into the Smart UPS-1000 and call it a day. All I need is for the UPS to power the system for 5 minutes after a failure, and to kick on when there is a brown out. Looking at the HST 3600, the system does not use more than 6 amps at any given time. Any reason I should not do this?



This technically should be fine. I believe a few Q owners here have done the same thing. Just make sure the total wattage of all the devices does not exceed the max wattage output on the APC. I have been wanting to do this and have been waiting for a model that can handle up to 900-1000 watts on eBay or Craigslist. :)

Mpsan, I have my cable box on component into input 4, and my Sony 975 into input 7. I have set the 880 parameters to leave the cable box and DVD player on all the time. If the power on the Q is off, "watch DVD" turns on the power and switches to input 7. If the Q is on, it just switches to input 7. Same in reverse for "watch TV."

The main issue I have is reminding my family members to turn the Q on and off with the 880 rather than the front panel switch - otherwise the remote gets confused about whether it's off or on, and you have to go through the "did this work" help stuff. It figures things out pretty quick, but takes a minute or two to get the right codes going. It's pretty tempting to use the front panel as one walks right by it on the way to the sofa. Our six year old is a particularly frequent transgressor .... :)

Cheers

OK, makes sense, but why do you leave the DVD on all the time?

Joel, do you have the 6412? If so, does it output Pro Logic on a Stereo non HD station? I can not find the Digital Output setup on mine!

Mpsan, I have my cable box on component into input 4, and my Sony 975 into input 7. I have set the 880 parameters to leave the cable box and DVD player on all the time. If the power on the Q is off, "watch DVD" turns on the power and switches to input 7. If the Q is on, it just switches to input 7. Same in reverse for "watch TV."

The main issue I have is reminding my family members to turn the Q on and off with the 880 rather than the front panel switch - otherwise the remote gets confused about whether it's off or on, and you have to go through the "did this work" help stuff. It figures things out pretty quick, but takes a minute or two to get the right codes going. It's pretty tempting to use the front panel as one walks right by it on the way to the sofa. Our six year old is a particularly frequent transgressor .... :)

Cheers

i re-reviewed again. i do not see any signs of false contouring or any other abnormalities. i looked at the water,the sub inside and out , anything that even remotely looks like false contouring. i do not see it. i am in warm,pro modes. also, my set is calibrated, but that should have nothing to do with it. have u tried viewing it from the actual dvd?

I have to pick up the DVD; will do that today maybe if I have the chance to walk by my local DVD watering-hole...

No, Mpsan, I have a Pioneer BD-V series HD box. SD PQ is terrible on it. I will be upgrading to the SA 8300 one of these days...

Cheers

OK, I do not watch any SD on the Q...only DVD and 6412 stuff.


No, Mpsan, I have a Pioneer BD-V series HD box. SD PQ is terrible on it. I will be upgrading to the SA 8300 one of these days...

Cheers

Mpsan, I have my cable box on component into input 4, and my Sony 975 into input 7. I have set the 880 parameters to leave the cable box and DVD player on all the time. If the power on the Q is off, "watch DVD" turns on the power and switches to input 7. If the Q is on, it just switches to input 7. Same in reverse for "watch TV."

The main issue I have is reminding my family members to turn the Q on and off with the 880 rather than the front panel switch - otherwise the remote gets confused about whether it's off or on, and you have to go through the "did this work" help stuff. It figures things out pretty quick, but takes a minute or two to get the right codes going. It's pretty tempting to use the front panel as one walks right by it on the way to the sofa. Our six year old is a particularly frequent transgressor .... :)

Cheers
I have some good news for you: the Qualia has discrete remote codes for power-on, power-off, and each of the inputs 1 to 7 plus tuner (iLink is . . . different).

You should be able to do power-on/input-4 for "Watch TV" and power-on/input-7 for "Watch DVD", and it won't matter if the Qualia is already on or not. Same goes for powering off.

I have my Pronto set up this way and it works great (and more importantly, meets with Mrs. Zechman's approval). The only "mode" issue I have is turning the speakers on and off--there's a toggle code for that, but not (that I've found) a discrete code for "Speakers-on" or "Speakers-off".

Sounds to me like a few minor tweaks to how your Harmony works and all your problems will be solved.

--Dwayne

Thanks, Dwayne -- but how? The Harmony site doesn't have the codes, you would have to enter them manually. Feel free to PM me with any more info.

And Mpsan, I wish I didn't have to watch SD on the Q either, but it's the family TV, so to paraphrase Yoda, "watch SD we must." :) I hear the SA8300 has better SD PQ, which I am hoping is true.

Cheers

I'm the proud owner of a brand new Q! It is (hopefully) to arrive on Friday, and I absolutely can't wait. I'd like to extend many thanks to everyone here on this forum for helping me make my decision. I'll follow up with initial impressions and a lot of high res photo and screenshots of the set once it arrives. :)

I'm the proud owner of a brand new Q! It is (hopefully) to arrive on Friday, and I absolutely can't wait. I'd like to extend many thanks to everyone here on this forum for helping me make my decision. I'll follow up with initial impressions and a lot of high res photo and screenshots of the set once it arrives. :)

Congratulations! Just wondering since the monster is now available at several dealers including the internet, did you buy sight unseen and based your decision entirely on this forum or did you actually saw it first somewhere? Also who did you buy from? :)

Thanks, Dwayne -- but how? The Harmony site doesn't have the codes, you would have to enter them manually. Feel free to PM me with any more info.

And Mpsan, I wish I didn't have to watch SD on the Q either, but it's the family TV, so to paraphrase Yoda, "watch SD we must." :) I hear the SA8300 has better SD PQ, which I am hoping is true.

Cheers

Joel, it is in the "customization" options on various screens...you can specify the command that the harmony sends, e.g., instead of "power toggle" you can send "power on" ...

on the 8300, while i don't know what quality you are getting out of your current box, the 8300 seems pretty good on my Q...it looks awful on my Samsung DLP but looks much better on the Q....must be the DRC processing.

Thanks, BD. Perhaps I'll try that.

Cheers

UPDATE:

It is a Belkin. The 1/2 off code still works but they only have the 1250VA for online purchase. Code 12345 works but they will not let you add the 1500 VA one to your cart at all!

Actually I believe Colortv gave us a code to use and get a 1500VA UPS...the code was half off. Try a search, and I will look as well.


This technically should be fine. I believe a few Q owners here have done the same thing. Just make sure the total wattage of all the devices does not exceed the max wattage output on the APC. I have been wanting to do this and have been waiting for a model that can handle up to 900-1000 watts on eBay or Craigslist. :)

OK, well, we have a 55" Plasma and use that for non-Q stuff.

I am surprised Harmony does not use discrete codes as that is the best way to go!

Also, my 6412 does output ProLogic, it is just not seen as prologic II.

Thanks, Dwayne -- but how? The Harmony site doesn't have the codes, you would have to enter them manually. Feel free to PM me with any more info.

And Mpsan, I wish I didn't have to watch SD on the Q either, but it's the family TV, so to paraphrase Yoda, "watch SD we must." :) I hear the SA8300 has better SD PQ, which I am hoping is true.

Cheers

Ben is there anyway I can see this on TestDrive?

Joel, it is in the "customization" options on various screens...you can specify the command that the harmony sends, e.g., instead of "power toggle" you can send "power on" ...

on the 8300, while i don't know what quality you are getting out of your current box, the 8300 seems pretty good on my Q...it looks awful on my Samsung DLP but looks much better on the Q....must be the DRC processing.

Ben is there anyway I can see this on TestDrive?

From what I recall about the test drive, it is fully operational, so yes, you should be able to see this.

go to the options page where the devices are listed down the left side and the activities on the right. select the qualia device "more options" link; next select "redo initial setup" ... click next, then select "a button for on, a button for off" and click next, and now on this next couple of screens you'll be able to select, from the dropdown, the actual command sent to power on the q and the command sent to power down the q...you should select the discrete power on and power off commands as opposed to toggle for the discrete behavior. the screens that come after this allow you to customize the discrete inputs, etc.

Welcome aboard HardDriver! Be prepared to spend a lot of time being mesmerized.

Joel - are you planning on buying the SA 8300? I just got the SA 8000 from Cox. It's PQ is awful and doesn't seem to handshake properly on the HDMI interface. I told Cox this and they are going to be sending out another box. They had absolutely no idea what I was talking about and that includes their "technical support" people. I requested an 8300 but the CSR told me they can only request a DVR but couldn't specify firm ware code revs or particular models. Another great customer service experience with Cox. I have a feeling I'm going to have to cancel my DVR subscription from them and get my own solution. So I was just curious if you were going to go through Cox or get your own.

UPDATE...I looked and do not see any way to change any thing. I guess when done in the test drive you have the option to buy a remote or register the one you have.

OK, I will look. The last few times on the page I did not see how to redo anything and could not get out of the setup stage![

QUOTE=BenDover]From what I recall about the test drive, it is fully operational, so yes, you should be able to see this.

go to the options page where the devices are listed down the left side and the activities on the right. select the qualia device "more options" link; next select "redo initial setup" ... click next, then select "a button for on, a button for off" and click next, and now on this next couple of screens you'll be able to select, from the dropdown, the actual command sent to power on the q and the command sent to power down the q...you should select the discrete power on and power off commands as opposed to toggle for the discrete behavior. the screens that come after this allow you to customize the discrete inputs, etc.[/QUOTE]

Congratulations! Just wondering since the monster is now available at several dealers including the internet, did you buy sight unseen and based your decision entirely on this forum or did you actually saw it first somewhere? Also who did you buy from? :)
Thanks! I'm fortunate enough to live within about an hour's drive of Barney Miller's (http://www.barneymillers.com/), a high end a/v store that carried the Q, in Lexington, KY. I have done an insane amount of research on all the different technology on the market, and I saw the set about 8 times before finally making the decision. We told them we would take two 006's - the one they had in stock and their display unit...I don't think I've ever seen a happier salesman in my life! :eek: :D

Welcome aboard HardDriver! Be prepared to spend a lot of time being mesmerized. Thanks! I can't wait!

"Originally Posted by kaduku
Congratulations! Just wondering since the monster is now available at several dealers including the internet, did you buy sight unseen and based your decision entirely on this forum or did you actually saw it first somewhere? Also who did you buy from? "

FYI, I have a thread going on where to see the Qualia 006. HardDriver had posted his info there (thanks!). If anyone else has a store they know of, add to the list! :)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=546051

Well after reading all the posts,I went to Mentor Tv,and looked at one,they are going to deliver it Tuesday.I look forward to watching a great TV.

UPDATE:

It is a Belkin. The 1/2 off code still works but they only have the 1250VA for online purchase. Code 12345 works but they will not let you add the 1500 VA one to your cart at all!

Actually I believe Colortv gave us a code to use and get a 1500VA UPS...the code was half off. Try a search, and I will look as well.

It was colortv who posted the code. Funny, because I did get the 1500VA model from the web site using the code only 2 months ago. Maybe they're just out of stock right now.

For those who want to re-live the thread discussion on UPS's, see my previous "historian" post on the subject (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5401390&&#post5401390).

--Dwayne
(Un-official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owner's Thread)

Thanks, Dwayne -- but how? The Harmony site doesn't have the codes, you would have to enter them manually. Feel free to PM me with any more info.

Unfortunately, I have no hands-on experience at all with Harmony remotes, so that's about as helpful as I can be. But I see that BenDover has taken the baton handoff. Isn't this a great thread? :)

Now if there are any Pronto users out there, I'm your guy. :cool:

--Dwayne

I just got the SA 8000 from Cox. It's PQ is awful and doesn't seem to handshake properly on the HDMI interface. I told Cox this and they are going to be sending out another box. They had absolutely no idea what I was talking about and that includes their "technical support" people. I requested an 8300 but the CSR told me they can only request a DVR but couldn't specify firm ware code revs or particular models. Another great customer service experience with Cox. I have a feeling I'm going to have to cancel my DVR subscription from them and get my own solution. So I was just curious if you were going to go through Cox or get your own.
xrispy: you wouldn't happen to be in the northern Virginia area would you? Fairfax County or thereabouts?

Cox cable's "great customer service" :mad: is why I'm now a happy DirecTV subscriber.

--Dwayne

Well after reading all the posts,I went to Mentor Tv,and looked at one,they are going to deliver it Tuesday.I look forward to watching a great TV.

Welcome aboard, JKUCSMA! Be sure to take lots of pictures. We all love to vicariously re-live the day we got our own Qualias delivered! :)

--Dwayne

Thanks,I do have one question,did everybody get an dvi adapter or use component hookups for Diredt TV HD.

Xrispy: I think the Cox units use a different operating system than the TW units. Word is that the PQ issues on the TW units (that use Passport, if I remember right, is better than the Cox units that use Sara (?)). I am planning to grab an 8300 from TW in a month or two, just drop in and pick one up. The HDTV board for SD recommends doing that rather than calling for service because they may not bring the right one. but if they bring an 8000, you can drive in and exchange it for an 8300.

Cheers

Yes, just got an email from Belkin...OOS 'til June 22nd.

I wonder how much shipping will be to Oregon?

It was colortv who posted the code. Funny, because I did get the 1500VA model from the web site using the code only 2 months ago. Maybe they're just out of stock right now.

For those who want to re-live the thread discussion on UPS's, see my previous "historian" post on the subject (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5401390&&#post5401390).

--Dwayne
(Un-official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owner's Thread)

Thanks,I do have one question,did everybody get an dvi adapter or use component hookups for Diredt TV HD.

The DirecTV HDTiVo that I use has HDMI output and includes both an HDMI-to-HDMI cable and an HDMI-to-DVI cable. I use the HDMI cable to input 7.

For other receivers, I'd recommend using this priority:
1) iLink/FireWire/1394
2) HDMI or DVI
3) Component
4) S-Video or Composite (per UMR, composite has a good chance of being better)

My only other HD-capable devices are a JVC DVHS deck (using iLink) and an XBox (using component--no digital option).

--Dwayne

JKUCSMA - welcome aboard! I've never wanted to watch so much TV before the Q. :) Gosh I just realized I haven't put up any pics of my Q either!

Zechman - No, I'm in the San Diego area. I like how they answer their phones with the confidence they can help with anything. But its all a dog a pony show. Someday they may actually train their people on AV technology! :) Ah well.

Joel - Thanks for the input. Will see what I can pull out of Cox.

The DirecTV HDTiVo that I use has HDMI output and includes both an HDMI-to-HDMI cable and an HDMI-to-DVI cable. I use the HDMI cable to input 7.

For other receivers, I'd recommend using this priority:
1) iLink/FireWire/1394
2) HDMI or DVI
3) Component
4) S-Video or Composite (per UMR, composite has a good chance of being better)

My only other HD-capable devices are a JVC DVHS deck (using iLink) and an XBox (using component--no digital option).

--Dwayne
Thanks,John

My set from from time to time goes blank or the picture flashs once every three seconds. It is the cable box. For me it is the HDMI input that does this. The regular component does not do this. For me to stop this I have to turn the Cable box on and off and that clears it up. It happens about once a week for me but only on the HDMI input. The cable co. blamse the TV the Sony blames the cable co. I strongly beleive it is the cable box because it only happens when I watch the HDMI input. Once the scree goes blank even with the component input the screen will be blank Turning the box on and off fixes this

Arnie

My set from from time to time goes blank or the picture flashs once every three seconds. It is the cable box. For me it is the HDMI input that does this. The regular component does not do this. For me to stop this I have to turn the Cable box on and off and that clears it up. It happens about once a week for me but only on the HDMI input. The cable co. blamse the TV the Sony blames the cable co. I strongly beleive it is the cable box because it only happens when I watch the HDMI input. Once the scree goes blank even with the component input the screen will be blank Turning the box on and off fixes this

Arnie

instead of cycling the power to the cable box, try tuning to a sd channel, then back to hd...that is how i clear it up when/if it happens.

Well Cox did pull through. They actually sent me an SA 8300. That cleared up my HDMI interface problem! Guys don't even bother to hook up an SA 8000 to your Q. The PQ of the SA 8300 is much better. PBS HD and SD signals are much better now.

Arnies - I may have had a similar problem. For my set the SA 8000 was not handshaking HDCP properly through the HDMI interface. A newer SA 8300 solved the HDMI interface problem. I would suspect you need a firmware upgrade on your cable box if that is possible.

And here is the obligitory pic of my Q at her new home or should I say throne as I seem to be worshipping her for several hours a day now! :)

Well, two months after getting my Qualia 006 it finally has a nice home. The wall unit ordered back in February was finally installed this past week. Above the TV are a Yamaha YSP-1 sound projector and two Yamaha subs, all behind grill cloths. Below the TV are a DVD player (old Samsung, will not replace until BlueRay or HD units are available) and the Sci Atl Explorer 8300HD HD-DVR from Cox.

I have the same problem with the 8300HD -- once or twice a week the image starts flashing every 3 seconds or so, or the image freezes. I either need to turn the box off and back on again, or unplug and reboot it. Sounds like I need to contact Cox and get a replacement.

ekovalsky - That's some nice wood work!

Anyone see "The Bourne Supremacy" on ShoHD? THAT is one good test for a display; I think the Q006 fared extremely well. Great colors, especially the scenes in India. Very difficult motion -- a fight scene in front of venetian blinds -- and some very dark scenes. The only problem I noticed was some contouring; this became evident in the scene where Bourne's car goes into the river and he's watching his girlfriend's body float away (while at the bottom of the river in almost total darkness). THAT is a very tough scene, however, and I'd like to see it rendered on other top-flight displays. Given that it was an underwater scene perhaps we should wait for Mini-Dive's mini-review?

ekovalsky,

Simply stunning! That has to be the nicest built-in display for the Q006 that has been posted. Very nice!

brt3, i recorded bourne supremacy last night...will give it a viewing today.

what i did catch last night was die another day...that is one superb transfer...pristine comes to my mind...halle berry isn't too hard to look at either :)

That much be a huge wall! The Qualia looks so small in that picture for a 70" TV.

Hello there

Can you guys tell me if the Q006 can output PAL signal? I have some imported PAL DVDs and my player can output NTSC/PAL but doesn't do the conversion.

Many Thanks

Sergio

Hello there

Can you guys tell me if the Q006 can output PAL signal? I have some imported PAL DVDs and my player can output NTSC/PAL but doesn't do the conversion.

Many Thanks

Sergio

I had not luck with the Qualia and PAL.

P.S. Since you don't accept PM's I'll post this here. Check out the Brillian review I posted if you want PAL compatibility. Their 1080p set when it comes out will likely be PAL compatible as well.

Ekovalsky,
Sorry if this has been asked before and I missed it but how do you handle venting the Q in that wall unit? I am in the cabinet business but when our engineer figured the air voulume required to match the open space requirements in the Sony manual the only practicle way to do it was with a remote fan and multiple air outlets. I'm really looking forward to your response.

Thanks
Ken

ekovalsky,

Simply stunning! That has to be the nicest built-in display for the Q006 that has been posted. Very nice!


DITTO!!! :D

I haven't read all this thread, so I apologize if this topic has already been discussed ad nauseam.

Was in Magnolia HiFi (San Ramon, CA) this weekend to see the Qualia006, and of course I found the PQ to be very nice. BUT--I found the glary screen to be horrible! Mits dlp's have been mercilessly crucified for their glary screen, but I found the Qualia to be just as bad or worse--and it's not removable (as the Mits is). I can't see how one could watch this thing during the day unless it were in a basement with no outside light at all. Am I totally off base? I just haven't heard this point discussed at all

I haven't read all this thread, so I apologize if this topic has already been discussed ad nauseam.

Was in Magnolia HiFi (San Ramon, CA) this weekend to see the Qualia006, and of course I found the PQ to be very nice. BUT--I found the glary screen to be horrible! Mits dlp's have been mercilessly crucified for their glary screen, but I found the Qualia to be just as bad or worse--and it's not removable (as the Mits is). I can't see how one could watch this thing during the day unless it were in a basement with no outside light at all. Am I totally off base? I just haven't heard this point discussed at all

I've mentioned it plenty of times in this thread, so have some of the owners. I've even posted a link to a picture of the mirror like reflections off the screen in other threads. People were buying this set sight unseen with no return policy. Go figure. I don't think they would mention it. However it probably is no more reflective than a direct view CRT.

Bill - I would agree. The reflective surface is about the same as my direct view XBR CRT display when they are turned off. However I generally haven't had what I'd consider to be a problem with reflection on either the CRT's or the Q. But then again I keep my main displays in rooms where I can regulate some of the ambient light. One thing I've noticed since having the Q is that I haven't been commenting to myself about reflections at all where I used to note every so often about reflections off of the CRT that used to be in the same position. I guess I can see reflections being a problem in a brightly lit room depending upon how the monitor is situated in relation to your light sources but no more than most displays in the same situation in my anecdotel opinion.

Of the five or six displays I've owned over the past five years the Qualia is the best of the lot regarding room reflections. First, the screen is treated to be anti-reflective; though you see reflections the AR treatment helps. Second, the brightness of the unit itself -- even in calibrated form -- is usually enough to mitigate room reflections. See my website for pics taken during broad daylight; my viewing room gets a LOT of sunlight...

Hey, I was just cruising through brt3's website and clicked on the first link for the replacement lamps and noticed that Sony is listing two different models of the Q006:

KDS70Q006

KDS70Q006U

Does anyone know what the differences are???

Of the five or six displays I've owned over the past five years the Qualia is the best of the lot regarding room reflections. First, the screen is treated to be anti-reflective; though you see reflections the AR treatment helps. Second, the brightness of the unit itself -- even in calibrated form -- is usually enough to mitigate room reflections. See my website for pics taken during broad daylight; my viewing room gets a LOT of sunlight...

You obviously haven't owned a CRT-RPTV with the protective screen off- no reflections.

I have a Sammy dlp (HLP6163), which has an excellent non-glare screen. This was my point of reference, and why I was so shocked in seeing the very glary screen of the 006. MagHiFi has subperb set ups for all their units, but I could see every small light in the store reflected in the Qualia screen. I suppose one can get used to it, but in comparison to the Sammy dlp, it is a dramatic difference.

I've mentioned it plenty of times in this thread, so have some of the owners. I've even posted a link to a picture of the mirror like reflections off the screen in other threads. People were buying this set sight unseen with no return policy. Go figure. I don't think they would mention it. However it probably is no more reflective than a direct view CRT.

Bill--It doesn't make you a bigger man to knock the tv others choose and it won't make you larger in anyones eyes to continue to brag how great your 9" gun CRT RPTV looks. We know it looks great and we know that you love it as we have heard it enough times. People have gotten along for years with direct view crt and other models that have some reflections. Sony has sold the
XBR LCD models that have the same screen and the Mits and Hit has sold well. Why do you think that you are the only one that is aware of this.
You like to cruise the threads and watch for a negative word on the Q and expand on any prob. It is'nt that you are just helping everyone be aware of features on the Q but after reading you for a while you seem to love to slam the Q --why? You were hammering everyone about CR for a long time until a very knowledgable poster set you straight. When I see a post by Bill the word tiresome comes to mind.
Bill --get a life

Actually the idea of glare hadn't even come up for me until Bill brought it up. I'm sure YMMV given everyone's environment. But if it you think its that much of an issue for you then don't buy the Q. Simple. It isn't a perfect display, but it fits my criteria and gives me a very satisfying viewing experience. And I consider myself pretty picky customer.

You obviously haven't owned a CRT-RPTV with the protective screen off- no reflections.
I helped my ISF calibrator -- who's also a friend -- trick out my Toshiba RPTV a few years back. We lined the cabinet with black felt and did everything we could to maximize the PQ, including testing with the outer screen removed. It certainly did improve PQ, but I live in a world with other people, dogs, and children -- it was taking a chance to leave the outer screen off.

I've also owned front projection setups. Those aren't too tolerant of ambient room light either, eh? The point is, buy a Qualia or don't, no one here cares (but good luck to you either way). Every product on the market makes a compromise in one area or another. For those who've bought the Q006, this set represents the best possible PQ with the least number of compromises. If the screen issue is so important to you look elsewhere. I am one picky MoFo, however, and in the real world -- carefully set up Qualia with translucent blinds to modulate the light -- I never have a problem with the Q. During the week all my viewing is at night, but weekends were made for Michelob and auto racing, the latter of which is mostly a daytime sport that has looked exceptional on the Q -- including today's NASCAR event in HD.

Again, not important -- these are my impressions and they may be completely irrelevant to you, your tastes, and your viewing room. Buy the Samsung if it works better for you, but post your love of that unit on the appropriate thread.

Xrispy -- my memory may be faulty, but I think the different model numbers refer to US vs. Canadian models of the set...

Oh yeah. Keep forgetting about Canada! heehee. :)

I didn't mean to raise any sore points re the glare on the Q006; I was just surprised when I first saw the set. It's clear that it's not a problem for many of you. Though I do have more experience with Samsung dlp's--and am thus more familiar with its screen--in the interest of my own education I thought it useful to get the observations of those of you who know the Q much better than I. Thanks for responding to my query; I will depart to other threads!

Was in Magnolia HiFi (San Ramon, CA) this weekend to see the Qualia006, and of course I found the PQ to be very nice. BUT--I found the glary screen to be horrible! Mits dlp's have been mercilessly crucified for their glary screen, but I found the Qualia to be just as bad or worse--and it's not removable (as the Mits is). I can't see how one could watch this thing during the day unless it were in a basement with no outside light at all. Am I totally off base? I just haven't heard this point discussed at all

I've been to the same store and and all the tv's there had some glare. It also depends too on the time of day. Glare is something that is not even on my list of things to look for in a tv. I darken my room when watching my Q during the day by simply putting down the blinds (problem solved). Go back and watch it at night! :)

Ekovalsky,
Sorry if this has been asked before and I missed it but how do you handle venting the Q in that wall unit? I am in the cabinet business but when our engineer figured the air voulume required to match the open space requirements in the Sony manual the only practicle way to do it was with a remote fan and multiple air outlets. I'm really looking forward to your response.

Thanks
Ken

Thanks for the compliments. When I purchased it, my wife had complained that the 006 was too big, but now with the speakers off and properly housed in cabinetry it fits the room very nicely.

The wall is about 23' long. We framed out 19" on each side with the unit filling out the rest of it. It was made by Stone Creek Furniture which is a local company in the Phoenix, AZ area. Cost was about the same as the 006.

The hutch that the TV sits into is open in the rear, there is some dead space between the entire unit (except for the sections with the wood doors at the ends) for heat to radiate into. I am going to keep an eye on temps, if they get too high we can vent either through the soffit into the attic or through the wall into the garage.

Our house is all on one floor, except for an exterior staircase leading to an observation deck, and this setup is in the game room. I have a separate media room (pic attached) which will be built out from the current 14.5' x 17' to 17' x 23' in the next few months. Once that is done video will be added, probably a Qualia 004 :cool:

Ekovalsky

Just looked at the jpg of your speakers. What the hey...............

What's that saying about who dies with the most toys, wins. I think you're going to win. lol

They delivered my set Saturday,all I can say is wow,the picture is awesome,C band looks almost like hd,and hd is unbelievable.Blacks are black,contrast and picture smoothness,out of this world.Thanks guys,without this thread,I might have passed on it.More when I come down to earth.

I didn't mean to raise any sore points re the glare on the Q006; I was just surprised when I first saw the set. It's clear that it's not a problem for many of you. Though I do have more experience with Samsung dlp's--and am thus more familiar with its screen--in the interest of my own education I thought it useful to get the observations of those of you who know the Q much better than I. Thanks for responding to my query; I will depart to other threads!

I have zero issues with glare at any time of the day, lights fully on or off or just the backlighting on...simply not an issue, for my setup.

I have a Sammy dlp in my den with that very dull plastic screen and that thing has some pretty nasty glare, setting aside the internal glare! But what can you expect when you expose a surface meant to transmit light to light!

Besides, the q has saved me from building my daughter a dance studio, since with the q off and the dance music pumping, my daughter loves dancing in front of the q! I do hold my breathe constantly BC I fear a little 6 year old could easily mess up a dance step and fall into my q! :) :eek:

ekovalsky,
Thanks for the reply. I realize that most of the information recieved when calling a plant is hit and miss but when I called Sony I was told that the open air dimmensions stated in the cataloug were crucial. We are still building and have commited to an 004 but I backed away from the 006 for that reason. Being in the business we have always had wall units help hide the big screen TV's. My wife would never go for an 006 freestanding so I passed. Please keep us informed of your heat issue and how it holds up.

Thanks
Ken

I didn't mean to raise any sore points re the glare on the Q006; I was just surprised when I first saw the set. It's clear that it's not a problem for many of you. Though I do have more experience with Samsung dlp's--and am thus more familiar with its screen--in the interest of my own education I thought it useful to get the observations of those of you who know the Q much better than I. Thanks for responding to my query; I will depart to other threads!

You have a valid concern, but I feel that you owe it to yourself to at least check out the Q in an ideal environment and see for yourself what we are all seeing before you have a final opinion. :)

The hutch that the TV sits into is open in the rear, there is some dead space between the entire unit (except for the sections with the wood doors at the ends) for heat to radiate into. I am going to keep an eye on temps, if they get too high we can vent either through the soffit into the attic or through the wall into the garage.



Very impressive indeed! As far as venting, the Q generates enough heat that venting is neccessary for an enclosed unit. I personally really wouldn't wait. IMHO! :)

I have a huge bay window on the wall opposite the TV. Glare was indeed a problem for previous televisions. Glare is still a problem for the Qualia, but quite a bit less so. The anti-reflective coating does a great job--the problem is that the screen is so big that you have a much bigger opportunity for reflections. Tweaking the Qualia to very bright settings mitigates all but the harshest direct sunlight.

For that, the Qualia 006 comes with the highly effective (and if I do say so, highly recommended) Qualia Glare Reduction Device (Q-GRD).

--Dwayne

P.S. Sony insiders report that the Q-GRD will not be included with Sony's smaller SXRD-based TV's that are expected later this year.

I have a huge bay window on the wall opposite the TV. Glare was indeed a problem for previous televisions. Glare is still a problem for the Qualia, but quite a bit less so. The anti-reflective coating does a great job--the problem is that the screen is so big that you have a much bigger opportunity for reflections. Tweaking the Qualia to very bright settings mitigates all but the harshest direct sunlight.

For that, the Qualia 006 comes with the highly effective (and if I do say so, highly recommended) Qualia Glare Reduction Device (Q-GRD).



LOL Hey, problem solved! I was using my bed sheet until I got the blinds.

Ray, make sure you add this new Q-GRD term to our vocabulary list!

I have a huge bay window on the wall opposite the TV. Glare was indeed a problem for previous televisions. Glare is still a problem for the Qualia, but quite a bit less so. The anti-reflective coating does a great job--the problem is that the screen is so big that you have a much bigger opportunity for reflections. Tweaking the Qualia to very bright settings mitigates all but the harshest direct sunlight.

For that, the Qualia 006 comes with the highly effective (and if I do say so, highly recommended) Qualia Glare Reduction Device (Q-GRD).

--Dwayne

P.S. Sony insiders report that the Q-GRD will not be included with Sony's smaller SXRD-based TV's that are expected later this year.

I'm shocked that the Mrs. hasn't "offed" you yet for doing that to her purty house!

When not blocking sunlight, the Q-GRD makes an excellent break dancing board :)

OK GUYS....

The Mosquito is installed. VERY NICE. Oh... I have you attention now...???

So you wanna know about it???

-Editor

It's Sooooo much fun this way.

As usual, I am not ready to comment! I just don't sit in the Bentley,
and go OOooooo... ahhhh. $hit... Leather and burl-wood don't impress
me anymore. So, I'll be going through it for the next few days... but You
will be the first to know.

I did watch on INHD, "In Theaters" which is a glorified 1/2 hour of
movie trailers. THIS is a VERY good barometer cause all it is is, is fast cuts.

I also watched on DVD Spartan. which is a very good film. The transfer was not that great so this will also give me some good material to offer my feedback.

I will Czech in tomorrow... yawnnnnn.

-Editor


What ever happened to this???

What ever happened to this???
Yeah, it's OK to be a tease -- as long as you deliver...
:D

brt3, didn't you order the bug combo? if so, did you receive your mosquito? my understanding of the buying options offered to avsforum folk is that you get the mosquito now and pay for an u/g to the digital (i.e., hdmi) version when it is available...or did you just indicate that you would wait until the hdmi version was available and forego the upgrade cost?

brt3, didn't you order the bug combo? if so, did you receive your mosquito? my understanding of the buying options offered to avsforum folk is that you get the mosquito now and pay for an u/g to the digital (i.e., hdmi) version when it is available...or did you just indicate that you would wait until the hdmi version was available and forego the upgrade cost?
I ordered the combo, but thought I'd wait to get the HDMI Mosquito when it ships. I'm not certain about the price difference; if it's the same maybe I'll have them go ahead and send it. I have a call into Jason at AVS to determine this...

Zechman - how elegant. :) My shippers took it away from me though. :(

I ordered the combo, but thought I'd wait to get the HDMI Mosquito when it ships. I'm not certain about the price difference; if it's the same maybe I'll have them go ahead and send it. I have a call into Jason at AVS to determine this...

Hi Kids.. did you miss me???

I have the Mosquito Component version. I'm waiting with baited breath for the HDMI version. It'll just be cleaner. The Dragon will also help with the Optix scaler.
I know I promised a review but I've be out of control busy. We have a brand new Sony DVCAM for our SD clients. I think we're among the first in the country to have it. It's the Sony DSR-450WSL. It a true 24p 16:9 variable shutter Broadcast DVCAM that has the same EX Chipset front end as the IMIX Sony Cameras. Minus the HD, this camera smokes. Upscaled it'll look amazing too.
I ran it through the 006, and it knocked my sox off.

Hands Down, Algolith has a great pair of products. I had an issue with a bad chip in the main board of my Mosquito, and Algolith replaced the unit the next day.

SONY, can you hear me??? $200K of YOUR gear and what do I get????

I'll be around, but I'm in the height of the production season so It'll still get crazy.
If anyone is looking for a Video Production Company out there... RING MY BELL!!

Editor!!

XX's to all!!

For all of us who can't afford Editor's setup -- Google "Sony HDR-HC1" to see Sony's newest HDV camcorder...

Is there anyway to determine what format the Q is being inputted? I hooked my xbox up to it today, and am wondering what format the xbox is outputting.

On a brighter note, I received my Denon 2805 today. My old Denon 3300 did not allow me to set audio delay. I found that with my HD DirecTivo outputting at 1080i via HDMI/Optical I need about 75ms of delay added to the audio. What are some others experiences?

dan

Is there anyway to determine what format the Q is being inputted? I hooked my xbox up to it today, and am wondering what format the xbox is outputting.

On a brighter note, I received my Denon 2805 today. My old Denon 3300 did not allow me to set audio delay. I found that with my HD DirecTivo outputting at 1080i via HDMI/Optical I need about 75ms of delay added to the audio. What are some others experiences?

dan

when you first switch to the input, doesn't it display the input info on the bottom, right portion of the OSD...I know I see this when I'm powering up the display.

Is there anyway to determine what format the Q is being inputted? I hooked my xbox up to it today, and am wondering what format the xbox is outputting.

On a brighter note, I received my Denon 2805 today. My old Denon 3300 did not allow me to set audio delay. I found that with my HD DirecTivo outputting at 1080i via HDMI/Optical I need about 75ms of delay added to the audio. What are some others experiences?

dan
Press the DISPLAY button on your remote and it will show the resolution of the
input currently selected. Adding a delay is quite common due the lag caused by the
video preocessor of the Q006.

Martin

Hello everyone - I've really been enjoying my new Q006!!! This thing is just unbelievable...I really don't think I've ever watched this much TV in my life. It's almost like a drug or something!

Just one question - I was messing around with the picture settings, and I thought I left everything as it was. However, HD content just doesn't look as good to me as it once did. Is there any way that I can restore all of the factory defaults on the set? I checked my user manual but I couldn't find anything.

Hello everyone - I've really been enjoying my new Q006!!! This thing is just unbelievable...I really don't think I've ever watched this much TV in my life. It's almost like a drug or something!

Just one question - I was messing around with the picture settings, and I thought I left everything as it was. However, HD content just doesn't look as good to me as it once did. Is there any way that I can restore all of the factory defaults on the set? I checked my user manual but I couldn't find anything.

Yep, go into the menu and highlight the mode you prefer (be it pro, standard or vivid). Then, press the reset button and the settings should return to default.

Press the DISPLAY button on your remote and it will show the resolution of the
input currently selected. Adding a delay is quite common due the lag caused by the
video preocessor of the Q006.

Martin

That is what I originally thought. It turns out that you need to have "Info Banner" set to on in the setup menu. Then when you press display it shows you all of the goodies.

dan

Just one question - I was messing around with the picture settings, and I thought I left everything as it was. However, HD content just doesn't look as good to me as it once did. Is there any way that I can restore all of the factory defaults on the set? I checked my user manual but I couldn't find anything.

Glad to hear that you are enjoying your Q! Check out brt3's homepage for some reccommended settings. I also believe that they are posted on page 1 of this thread. :)

http://homepage.mac.com/raythompson/SonyQualia006/Menu11.html

just a question, what price did you people scoe this tv for? is it still ~ 10k can i get it cheaper? any word on 1080p input?

just a question, what price did you people scoe this tv for? is it still ~ 10k can i get it cheaper? any word on 1080p input?

Yes, no, no.

Hello All,

Is the 59AVi @ 480i still the preferred Qualia DVD unit?? How about the Denon 5910/3910 units? On the Denon are you using 1080i? Anybody using I-Scan HD+??

Thanks
James

Hello All,

Is the 59AVi @ 480i still the preferred Qualia DVD unit?? How about the Denon 5910/3910 units? On the Denon are you using 1080i? Anybody using I-Scan HD+??

Thanks
James

I'm not sure there is a definitive view on what the best player is to mate with the Q, but if there was one, I would guess it is the Sony 975.

I know there is at least one person here that has a 59avi and at least two that have the 3910. I am the at least one 3910 owner. I am very please with the performance when feeding the Q and I feed it at 1080i although I am not sure there is much of a difference between feeding the Q 720p or 1080i. The 3910 doesn't exhibit any MB issues with the Q as it does with some sets.

I went with the 3910 for the video performance, the great audio performance and the fact that it had 1394 audio connections. Otherwise, the 59avi would have been my choice since it has the option of sending 480i over HDMI.

I wish I knew someone with a 5910 that would let me hook it up to my Q, or a dealer that would let me demo it at home. If I saw a noticeable difference between it and the 3910, I would trade up and then just wait for a HiDef DVD player to hit the market.

Hello All,

Is the 59AVi @ 480i still the preferred Qualia DVD unit?? How about the Denon 5910/3910 units? On the Denon are you using 1080i? Anybody using I-Scan HD+??

Thanks
James

I have my Denon 3910 set on 1080i, which to me looks better. I did have a 59avi and had it set to 480i and was not too impress and thought the PQ on the Denon was better. Other peeps on this forum claim that 480i looks better, of course it could be just me and my 40ish eyes. Calibration could also be a big factor. :)

Thanks for responses, Any Pioneer fans :)

BTW, Kaduku, I'm hoping to have UMR in Reno to calibrate my 006 in the middle of July, are you interested in the same?? Send me or UMR a PM.

Thanks
James

Thanks for responses, Any Pioneer fans :)

BTW, Kaduku, I'm hoping to have UMR in Reno to calibrate my 006 in the middle of July, are you interested in the same?? Send me or UMR a PM.

Thanks
James

Yes, I am interested. I am hoping that the rest of the bay area Qualians out there can also share in the travel expense. How about guys! :)

Hello All,

Is the 59AVi @ 480i still the preferred Qualia DVD unit?? How about the Denon 5910/3910 units? On the Denon are you using 1080i? Anybody using I-Scan HD+??

Thanks
James

the 59avi definitely looks better upconverting 1080i to the Q. i tried even which combo. this was clearly (to me) the cleanest,clearest.

Yes, I am interested. I am hoping that the rest of the bay area Qualians out there can also share in the travel expense. How about guys! :)


Especially since were going to get him 90% of the way to the Bay Area!! Jump on board!!

James

I'm running the 59avi at 480i. I thought it looked better than 1080i, but hifi59's comment has convinced me to try 1080i again to compare. Just my 2 cents. :)

I'm running the 59avi at 480i. I thought it looked better than 1080i, but hifi59's comment has convinced me to try 1080i again to compare. Just my 2 cents. :)
Ditto...

Does anyone know the brightness spec in cd/m-sq'd for the 006?

I'm running the 59avi at 480i. I thought it looked better than 1080i, but hifi59's comment has convinced me to try 1080i again to compare. Just my 2 cents. :)
To clarify: I spent around an hour playing with my 59AVi looking for differences at 480i vs. 1080i (both over HDMI). Previously, when using the Sony 975, it was clear that outputting 480i (and letting the Qualia scale the image) was the way to go. With the Pioneer things are not so clear cut; the 59AVi clearly has a much better processor/scaler than the one in the Sony 975 -- just as you would expect given the substantial price differential.

There seem to be areas in which the the scaler in the Qualia is better; in other areas letting the 59AVi perform the processing seems to give the best results. What I found, however, is that the 59AVi (at 1080i over HDMI) gave the best PQ in my limited test. I was using "The Bourne Supremacy" DVD, and a great scene to use for testing is the one in India (or Indonesia?) where Jason is running on the beach; this is intercut with footage of his girlfriend (Franka Potente) going through his "memory album". There are lots of maps and newspaper articles, which are very good references for fine detail.

For me (a notorious "love that film-like PQ" junkie) this was a very interesting comparison. Now, I simply didn't have enough time to optimize every single parameter. Specifically, I didn't have time to try and optimize the Qualia's DRC function. What I did notice is this: the Qualia scaler gave sllightly more sharpness, but things looked smoother letting the 59AVi do the scaling up to 1080i. This is particularly noticeable looking at backgrounds in scenes; the Qualia-scaled image had a slightly blockier, chunkier, noisier look than what I got from the Pioneer player. The Pioneer seemed to sacrifice a slight amount of apparent detail for a smoother, creamier picture (my apologies for the repeated peanut butter analogies).

I realize this is preliminary -- my results do not come close to approximating the depth of a true test or review. Given more time I may be able to fine-tune the Qualia to produce the same or better results. But the main thing is this -- the Pioneer does a very credible job of taking the 480i from the disc and converting it to 1080i. In this respect it is vastly superior to the processing in the Sony 975. Now, if I somehow borrow an Arcam DVD player, the only other high-end player I know of that can output 480i over HDMI (mandatory, since I want to upgrade to the Algolith Mosquito/Dragonfly combo).

One final point; I also have this film in HD on my DVR. I was very surprised at how well the scaled image held up to the HD image; there was not as drastic a difference as what I expected. Good news for what I should be able to achieve with the Algolith bugs...

...

Now, if I somehow borrow an Arcam DVD player, the only other high-end player I know of that can output 480i over HDMI (mandatory, since I want to upgrade to the Algolith Mosquito/Dragonfly combo).

...

brt3,

I don't understand this. Why would you spend so much money on a DVD player when all you plan to do is use it as a transport, i.e., use it to simply output the 480i signal. In this instance, would you be better off with the much, much cheaper Sony 975 or other less expensive player capable of 480i over HDMI/DVI ?

For those using cablecard.....

Do you guys know if the Q006 firewire outpts the signal of a premium HD channel (like HBO HD) and if it is possible to record it in a DVHS recorder? I know it doesn't when using a cable box but I wonder if the cablecard makes a difference or not.

Thanks

Sergio

brt3,

I don't understand this. Why would you spend so much money on a DVD player when all you plan to do is use it as a transport, i.e., use it to simply output the 480i signal. In this instance, would you be better off with the much, much cheaper Sony 975 or other less expensive player capable of 480i over HDMI/DVI ?
One word -- reliability. I was hoping the Sony would work for me or else I wouldn't have started out with it. Once I started experiencing reliability problems with the Sony it was gone. Frankly, the Sony's overall build quality and parts quality is not great; the Pioneer is much better built and stands a far better chance of lasting for 2-3 years (or until the BluRay/HD-DVD dust settles). As Kris Deering observed, it's probably very close to being the ultimate 480i transport to use as a source for a processor. I hope everyone with a Sony 975 has great luck with their players, but in my installation it proved to be a POS...

There seem to be areas in which the the scaler in the Qualia is better; in other areas letting the 59AVi perform the processing seems to give the best results. What I found, however, is that the 59AVi (at 1080i over HDMI) gave the best PQ in my limited test. I was using "The Bourne Supremacy" DVD, and a great scene to use for testing is the one in India (or Indonesia?) where Jason is running on the beach; this is intercut with footage of his girlfriend (Franka Potente) going through his "memory album". There are lots of maps and newspaper articles, which are very good references for fine detail.



I'm glad that I'm not the only one that sees that 480i is not always the best setting depending on their machine. My only regret is that I returned the 59avi immediately after seeing it's PQ on 480i and not even trying the 1080i setting. Though I am completely happy with my Denon 3910.

Kaduku-

What is your brightness setting using the 3910 @1080i?

BRT-

Did your brightness setting change when you went to 1080i?

I ask as I'm demoing a 5910 and it looks very good after calibration, but the brightness needed to be dropped all the way to 23 or 24. On the Pioneer 59Avi @ 480i, it went anywhere from 32 to 36 depending on the rest on the settings. Both are in direct mode with no picture adjustments on the players, other that the Auto 1 for cadence.

James

I would have to agree with brt3 and kaduku that there is no clear cut one setting advantage with the 59avi/Q combo. Sometimes the Q is better and others it seems the 59avi is better on the scaling. Looking forward to getting the Bugs in the loop though! The 59avi sounds like it will be an ideal mate for that.

Is my question too stupid or nobody uses cablecard?

One word -- reliability. I was hoping the Sony would work for me or else I wouldn't have started out with it. Once I started experiencing reliability problems with the Sony it was gone. Frankly, the Sony's overall build quality and parts quality is not great; the Pioneer is much better built and stands a far better chance of lasting for 2-3 years (or until the BluRay/HD-DVD dust settles). As Kris Deering observed, it's probably very close to being the ultimate 480i transport to use as a source for a processor. I hope everyone with a Sony 975 has great luck with their players, but in my installation it proved to be a POS...

The 59avi I understand (I went with the 3910); I was referring to your reference to the Arcam, which dials up the spending a couple of notches over the 59avi/3910.

Is my question too stupid or nobody uses cablecard?

I do not own a DVHS deck, however, my understanding taken from the Qualia's capabilities and federal regulations, the firewire port should allow you to record to a DVHS deck when using a cablecard; I would have expected it to work with the cable box as well if the cablebox were connected digitally.

I think there is at least one person here that owns a Q and a DVHS deck; hopefully they'll chime in at some point, but understand, it's the weekend! :)

Thanks Ben. I know about the cable boxes with Firewire output but most of them don't have it enabled. If the Q006 sends the cablecard signal out through the firewire it will allow a very good quality of HD recording .

Thanks Ben. I know about the cable boxes with Firewire output but most of them don't have it enabled. If the Q006 sends the cablecard signal out through the firewire it will allow a very good quality of HD recording .

same as you would get on your cable co's dvr, after all, they are simply bit buckets.

the added benefit, is archival ability whereas the cable co's don't allow any means for archival, except for sd.

The 59avi I understand (I went with the 3910); I was referring to your reference to the Arcam, which dials up the spending a couple of notches over the 59avi/3910.
Got it. I was not trying to say that I would buy an Arcam, only that I wish I could get one on loan to compare head-to-head with the Pioneer 59 AVi. Glutton for punishment, I guess...
:D

Got it. I was not trying to say that I would buy an Arcam, only that I wish I could get one on loan to compare head-to-head with the Pioneer 59 AVi. Glutton for punishment, I guess...
:D

i feel you bro...i would love to get a hold of a 5910 :)

i feel you bro...i would love to get a hold of a 5910 :)
I am so tempted by that player for use with my regular non-Qualia TV -- the one without superpowers. IF they start discounting 5910s towards the end of the year (assuming Blu-Ray is imminent) I am there...

Kaduku-

What is your brightness setting using the 3910 @1080i?



James,
I haven't really messed around with any of my settings since they already look so good out of the box. I figure the time will come when the Q gets calibrated (hopefully soon). I have it in standard mode with picture at 58 and brightness at 31. :)

For those using cablecard.....

Do you guys know if the Q006 firewire outpts the signal of a premium HD channel (like HBO HD) and if it is possible to record it in a DVHS recorder? I know it doesn't when using a cable box but I wonder if the cablecard makes a difference or not.

Thanks

Sergio

My cablecard won't even TUNE HBO and/or SHOHD... fighting with TWC as we speak. I can record off the other HD and SD digital channels which is great as our local TWC doesn't offer any boxes with firewire out!

Thanks Ben. I know about the cable boxes with Firewire output but most of them don't have it enabled. If the Q006 sends the cablecard signal out through the firewire it will allow a very good quality of HD recording .

I recorded HBOHD and others from cable card (Adelphia) to JVC30K using i-link control of Q006. No problem.

Is anyone using the Mitsubishi HD-DVR through firewire from the Qualia?

UMR is coming to the Reno and San Francisco area on week of July 18th. I am trying to set up a calibration date with him. So you bay area guys out there better take advantage of this opportunity. Remember UMR is the guy who actual gets in the service menu to do his magic. :)

I also have some nice equipment and do a very thorough job.

Just took delivery of an 006 yesterday. I'm using a Pioneer Elite DV-59avi @ 1080i for DVD. Worked @ 1080i right out of the box.

Scientific Atlanta 8300 via HDMI is causing me grief...
I have picture set to "auto dvi / hdmi" in the scientific atlanta. When switching from a standard def program @ 480i to a hi-def channel @ 1080i or 720p there is some strange screen flickering or snow sometimes. It also outputs 480i sometimes when viewing a 1080i program.

Had to reboot the SA8300 to get it to work again. It may be linked to changing inputs. So if I switch to another input then back I'm watching 480i even if the SA8300 is on a 1080i channel.

Any ideas or suggestions would be greatly appreciated...

Grant

Seecamp380,

Welcome to Q006 ownership. We need some new blood!

I don't use a cable box, but similar issues have been posted in this thread. I'm certain someone will chime in soon that has more experience than me.

Have you tried using component cables? Some have reported that resolves the issue and the picture is just as good as HDMI.

Good luck.

I have seen this issue, but not too often. What I do to resolve it is just tune back to an analog, SD channel and then back to the HD channel.

How long of a run do you have with your HDMI cable? Are you using an HDMI switcher?

I have my 8300 plugged into my Q's input 7 and my DVD player plugged into input 6; both are 15m runs (actually longer, the cable from wall outlet to wall outlet is 15m then there is a 3m on each end going from the wall outlets to the source and tv; on one the outlet to outlet cable is actually a DVI cable and the cables from the outlet to the device are dvi->hdmi cables).

Thanks for the replies guys....

I haven't tried component yet. I'd prefer to stay with HDMI. Once I have the 4 hdmi mosquito / dragonfly combo I'll need to use the hdmi right? Theoretically it should be better and at least no worse. Also I believe UMR said that the component inputs had more filtering ?

Once it's stuck in 480i (even on hd channels) I have to re-boot. Then is seems to correctly detect 1080i vs 480i. But when one switches from a channel in one format to a channel in another format (say 720p to 1080i or 480i to 1080i etc) the set seems to go blank, show the new format then goes blank again (sometimes shows snow for a brief period) then a brief green flash sometimes (a large block) then it shows the new format corectly... An awful lot of screen flickering & waiting in general. I thought there was a guy on here who had a SA8000 then swithed it for an 8300 which solved his similar problems. Does that sound right? Does anyone remember who that was?

My hdmi cable is a 2m (6ft) audioquest HDMI-1 - a decent quality cable. No hdmi switcher. This is my 1st HDTV (coming from an XBR100 32in tube)...

I blame the SA 8300 but surely there must be a fix?

BenDover: Do you have similar flickering / snow / waiting issues when changing channels from one format to another (and or the on-screen program guide)?

Grant

Thanks for the replies guys....

I haven't tried component yet. I'd prefer to stay with HDMI. Once I have the 4 hdmi mosquito / dragonfly combo I'll need to use the hdmi right? Theoretically it should be better and at least no worse. Also I believe UMR said that the component inputs had more filtering ?

...

HDMI is worse for 480i than component. This assumes the source is has equally good outputs for component and HDMI.

Thanks for the replies guys....

I haven't tried component yet. I'd prefer to stay with HDMI. Once I have the 4 hdmi mosquito / dragonfly combo I'll need to use the hdmi right? Theoretically it should be better and at least no worse. Also I believe UMR said that the component inputs had more filtering ?

Once it's stuck in 480i (even on hd channels) I have to re-boot. Then is seems to correctly detect 1080i vs 480i. But when one switches from a channel in one format to a channel in another format (say 720p to 1080i or 480i to 1080i etc) the set seems to go blank, show the new format then goes blank again (sometimes shows snow for a brief period) then a brief green flash sometimes (a large block) then it shows the new format corectly... An awful lot of screen flickering & waiting in general. I thought there was a guy on here who had a SA8000 then swithed it for an 8300 which solved his similar problems. Does that sound right? Does anyone remember who that was?

My hdmi cable is a 2m (6ft) audioquest HDMI-1 - a decent quality cable. No hdmi switcher. This is my 1st HDTV (coming from an XBR100 32in tube)...

I blame the SA 8300 but surely there must be a fix?

BenDover: Do you have similar flickering / snow / waiting issues when changing channels from one format to another (and or the on-screen program guide)?

Grant

no, i experience nothing like what you have. only very occasionaly do i get flashing, however it hasn't happened in quite some time (i'm sure i'm jinxing myself now :) ).

i hate to say it, but it sound like something is either wrong with your tv, cable box, or cable. try making sure the hdmi cable is properly seated at both ends. if that doesn't fix it, try replacing with another hdmi cable (i'm sure you can pick one up at your local retailer and then return it if it wasn't the problem). don't know how to troubleshoot your cable box since you don't have another hdtv with hdmi to try it on.

as i said, i have both the Q and the 8300HD cable box; i experience nothing like what you describe.

simplest thing, check the connection and the cable itself :)

BenDover: I'll check the cables although I'm pretty sure they are seated ok. I'll swap out the cable for the one the Pioneer elite is using. I'm thinking of swapping the 8300 at the cable company next week....

UMR: I guess I'm confused. Why is hdmi worse for 480i? Does that mean that I should hook up my Pioneer Elite DVD player @ 480i over component instead of HDMI? or 1080i over HDMI or 1080i over component? It seems to be accepted wisdom here to use 480i over hdmi for dvd players except the players with better scalers...

Is hdmi better (than component) for 1080i all other things being equal?

Should the cable box be hooked up twice to the 006 - via component to watch standard def material & hdmi for 1080i material? Will this work?

Grant

BenDover: I'll check the cables although I'm pretty sure they are seated ok. I'll swap out the cable for the one the Pioneer elite is using. I'm thinking of swapping the 8300 at the cable company next week....

UMR: I guess I'm confused. Why is hdmi worse for 480i? Does that mean that I should hook up my Pioneer Elite DVD player @ 480i over component instead of HDMI? or 1080i over HDMI or 1080i over component? It seems to be accepted wisdom here to use 480i over hdmi for dvd players except the players with better scalers...

Is hdmi better (than component) for 1080i all other things being equal?

Should the cable box be hooked up twice to the 006 - via component to watch standard def material & hdmi for 1080i material? Will this work?

Grant

I discuss my observations in the following thread in great detail. I would use that to decide what connections to try.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=528907

Most TV's have variable performance on various inputs and it is not a given that the HDMI or DVI input will be best for every input type. Since that thread was posted I have found ways to improve the performance in the Service Mode.

UMR: Thanks for the suggested reading. I'll take a look.

Are you planning any trips to the east coast in the next 3 to 6 months?

Grant

UMR: Thanks for the suggested reading. I'll take a look.

Are you planning any trips to the east coast in the next 3 to 6 months?

Grant

Not at the moment, but I am sure I could be persuaded. I don't see myself venturing out of the country though.

I have the same cable box and from time to time I get the same problem. Sometimes a band of snow at the bottom, picture flickering, and finally blank screen. I then switch to the component cables out of the cable box and it works fine. I then switch back to the HDMI and it is fine. I beleive it is the cable box. I do not have the problem of not recognizing the different outputs however. I am going to switch to a different HDMI cable just to be sure.

Arnie

I had an SA 8000, which I changed to an 8300 to get the HDMI connection. My first SA 8300 was defective in that I couldn't get it to output anything except 480p. After 2 frustrating weeks with TW having me jump througn the gauntlet and repeated service techs turn up with no SA 8300 box on the truck, I took the box to a TW storefront and exchanged it. End of problem

SeeCamp380 - I had the SA8000 that was giving me grief. When I switched to the SA8300 I have not had any problems at all (knock on wood). I switch between SD and HD channels all the time. I use HDMI output with picture set at Auto DVI/HDMI directly connected to input 6. My box is running PTV OS: Home Server Edition 1.4, Flash: 1.87.16.1, and SARA v1.87.16.1 (same numbers - one in the same??) if that helps with your troubleshooting.

It seems to be accepted wisdom here to use 480i over hdmi for dvd players except the players with better scalers...
Grant
Personally with your player, I would try seeing how you like the picture with 480i over component because of umr’s findings from the Qualia Experience thread.

I think you’ll be happy.

Well as you guys can see…..I’m back!

I’m a little poorer but zee Queen is happy as a humming bird for the South Pacific trip and all is well.

I notice I didn’t miss much on the thread….must be the summer doldrums. Jb007 is correct, we need more new blood (i.e. new 006 owners).

Umr,
I imagine that you are very proud that your son attends such a prestigious undergraduate teaching institution (as well you should be). I sincerely hope for Mrs. Umr and your sake that he is a plebe or 2nd year the way things are going. I have the utmost admiration for General Colin Powell. I wish more people had paid attention to him.

Brt,
It looks like it may be a looooong time before we get F1 in HD after the Indy fiasco. I can’t figure out if Michelin tried to strong-arm FIA or if they are a bunch of arrogant fools in an Ivory Tower….as I missed all the inner workings.
I popped the potential Algo bug combo purchase on zee Queen, AFTER I bought her the pearls and I’ll give you her response in a few days after I’ve unpacked and gotten comfy here at home.

B.T.W.,
I’m only home for a few days – so I can’t get too comfy- as next week I’m off to the Tour.......de France that is.......to see if Sir Lance-Alot-of Tour wins can beat Father Time and pull yet another rabbit outa the hat.

After all, it will be the end of an era and I wouldn’t miss it for the world (everything running on my beloved 006 is reruns anyway).

B.T.W.,
I’m only home for a few days – so I can’t get too comfy- as next week I’m off to the Tour.......de France that is.......to see if Sir Lance-Alot-of Tour wins can beat Father Time and pull yet another rabbit outa the hat.

After all, it will be the end of an era and I wouldn’t miss it for the world (everything running on my beloved 006 is reruns anyway).

Welcome back PM,
This place is just not same without you man! My wife will also be in Paris on her bi-yearly business trip next week. She stays at the Intercontinental Hotel.

Thanks guys for all the replies & suggestions....

I've been out for most of the day & haven't really had a chance to try anything.

I'll probably try the component switch back & forth & possibly a new box. Can I just switch to another input even if there is nothing connected to that input & then back?

Tonight it came on (startup channel is an HD channel) in 480i then I swithced to a SD channel and back. Then & since everything is in 1080i (even SD) & the cable-box says 480i. Strange, given that the 8300 is still set to "auto dvi / hdmi."

Just watched Pocahontas on ABC HD (in 1080i due to the cable box even though they are normally 720P). Fantastic...... The only real problem with this set is finding material good enough for it.

I've ordered the JVC D-VHS with the ATSC tuner built in & will be putting up an antenna to receive OTA from Buffalo via the JVC in about a month or so. Up here in la-la land (Canada) the firewire ports are not enabled on the 8300. Does anyone think I can input HD via hdmi (from the cable box) then out of the Q via firewire into the JVC & have it successfully tape (as a workaround to the fire-wire ports not being enabled). Would this gain anything over running component cables from the 8300 straight into the JVC & taping that way?

Penton: You mean I should try 480i over component on the Pioneer Elite......

Thanks guys for all the replies & suggestions....

I've been out for most of the day & haven't really had a chance to try anything.

I'll probably try the component switch back & forth & possibly a new box. Can I just switch to another input even if there is nothing connected to that input & then back?

Tonight it came on (startup channel is an HD channel) in 480i then I swithced to a SD channel and back. Then & since everything is in 1080i (even SD) & the cable-box says 480i. Strange, given that the 8300 is still set to "auto dvi / hdmi."

Just watched Pocahontas on ABC HD (in 1080i due to the cable box even though they are normally 720P). Fantastic...... The only real problem with this set is finding material good enough for it.

I've ordered the JVC D-VHS with the ATSC tuner built in & will be putting up an antenna to receive OTA from Buffalo via the JVC in about a month or so. Up here in la-la land (Canada) the firewire ports are not enabled on the 8300. Does anyone think I can input HD via hdmi (from the cable box) then out of the Q via firewire into the JVC & have it successfully tape (as a workaround to the fire-wire ports not being enabled). Would this gain anything over running component cables from the 8300 straight into the JVC & taping that way?

Penton: You mean I should try 480i over component on the Pioneer Elite......

Based on your latest post I am wondering whether your 8300 is set up properly; you have to specify all the formats that your display can handle...I think someone on this thread had the same problem quite a few pages back (like maybe a 100 :) ).

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Umr,
I imagine that you are very proud that your son attends such a prestigious undergraduate teaching institution (as well you should be). I sincerely hope for Mrs. Umr and your sake that he is a plebe or 2nd year the way things are going. I have the utmost admiration for General Colin Powell. I wish more people had paid attention to him.
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A way off topic post follows...

My son is a Cow (2nd Class Cadet, 3rd year). I am proud of him, but I don't worry about him. He is committed to serving our country and is living his life dream. I just can't fret over someone who is doing exactly what he wants to do. I don't want him or any of our troops harmed, but it is a risk you take in the military. My son is also a big fan of General Powell and would love to be half the man he is. I know he has studied Powell's life along with many other great leaders around the world. Hooah!

I am also very proud of my nephew who was in the 1st Exp. Force of Marines and will be returning in about 6 months to Iraq. He was in the first group of Marines to enter Falouja. Even his Dad who is a retired Navy Seal with about every medal except for the Blue Max could not believe what his son went through. My nephew's training served him well in some very tight situations. Semper Fi!

BenDover: I did go through the initial set-up on the 8300 & selected all of the formats. I have seen the Q report 1080i, 720p, and 480i yesterday (via the Q's Display button on the remote)..... Unless the box "forgot" the approved formats?

I think the 8300 in general has hdmi issues based on my experience & others. My worry is that I'll end up swithing out the 8300 and the next one will still have problems..... :mad:

Since Ted99 and Xrispy have solved their problems there is hope. It may be dependent on the firmware versions my cable co is using.....

Welcome back PM,
This place is just not same without you man! My wife will also be in Paris on her bi-yearly business trip next week. She stays at the Intercontinental Hotel.
Tell her to wear red, white and blue and carry a big Texas flag!
The Tour starts in Fromentine on July 2 and ends on the Champs-Elysees on the 24th.

One thing that TV viewers (even 006 owners) can’t appreciate if they watch the Tour on TV is the SMELL ! You can smell the peloton approaching from a ¼ of a mile away as it is a moving mass of perspiration and humidity. Kinda like sprinting thru a poorly ventilated high school B-Ball gym.

B.T.W., Robin Williams ( a close friend of Sir Lance) owns a Qualia 004.

Penton: You mean I should try 480i over component on the Pioneer Elite......
Ooops,
That just goes to show you want happens when I try to speed read to catch up on the thread.

I thought you had the Sony 975 player.
With your player, do what brt is doing.

My son is a Cow (2nd Class Cadet, 3rd year). I am proud of him,
I am also very proud of my nephew who was in the 1st Exp. Force of Marines and will be returning in about 6 months to Iraq. He was in the first group of Marines to enter Falouja. Even his Dad who is a retired Navy Seal with about every medal except for the Blue Max could not believe what his son went through. My nephew's training served him well in some very tight situations. Semper Fi!
Well, we’ve just got to get you lined up with calibrations with some retired Marines in Oceanside when you do your SoCal tour so you can hear some old war stories. :)

Or perhaps if there are any independently wealthy Seal Team members in San Diego that are 006 owners, now is the time to speak up if you want a calibration.

I just wish that politicians (despite which political affiliation) were as quick to put more funds into V.A. benefits as they are into sending young men and women off to war. All of the talking heads should be forced to do an internship at Walter Reed or any V.A. hospital and put their money where their mouths are.

Well I finally got a DVI to HDMI cable long enough to go from the Qualia to my PC. I have a Radeon 9800 Pro video card. When I connect the cable to the Qualia on Video Input #6 the Qualia display goes completely blank.

Has anyone tried to connect a Radeon 9800 Pro card to the Qualia?

Brt,
I popped the potential Algo bug combo purchase on zee Queen, AFTER I bought her the pearls and I’ll give you her response in a few days after I’ve unpacked and gotten comfy here at home.

Re: The Algolith Dragonfly/Mosquito Combo

Since this appears to be the next big toy that some of us are yearning to attach to our 006’s…..and some of us like brt and myself have been watching its (the Dragonfly that is) development since what seems like the beginning of time with baited breath……

I asked zee Queen if I could yet again open zee Royal Vault for more Penton Paper to pay for the Bug Combo.

She said, “If I can’t figure out how to work your 13K TV with this thing connected to it….DON’T GET IT.”

Well that struck a cord because if memory serves me correct, the last version of Algolis sqeetoris (a.k.a. Algolith Mosquito) was not the most user-friendly device on the planet because it contained enough sub-menus to vex even a dedicated videophile. Perhaps if Wilson still follows this thread he can chime in here as I think he may own the last version of the sqeeter bug.

So, brt (and anybody else out there that is early in the queue buying list), I’m wondering if when you give your thorough review of this combo to comment on how user-friendly it is.
Specifically, is it user-friendly after you’ve had a stiff drink?
Can Elmo still work the remote when he’s not posing as an alternate model for the Ferrari logo?
Can Mrs. Brt still use the TV with ease after you do the install?

Well I finally got a DVI to HDMI cable long enough to go from the Qualia to my PC. I have a Radeon 9800 Pro video card. When I connect the cable to the Qualia on Video Input #6 the Qualia display goes completely blank.

Has anyone tried to connect a Radeon 9800 Pro card to the Qualia?

Try turning off youre computer and let it reboot when everythings hooked up..

A couple of months ago I was told by a saleman at a Sony Store here in Canada, that a smaller Qualia would be out by July. A few days ago I check ... that release has now been delayed until next year! So it seems that I will have to be a little patient before I can join the Qualia group!

HiDefBob

Wonder if the salesman was actually talking about the SXRD TVs Sony has scheduled for later this year. They're not Qualia's though.

Re the SA8300, I have heard that the Passport software is more stable than the SARA software on HDMI; it could be a software/firmware issue rather than the hardware itself. It may be worth checking out on the STB forum.

Cheers

HiDefBob

Wonder if the salesman was actually talking about the SXRD TVs Sony has scheduled for later this year. They're not Qualia's though.

I heard last week a report that Sony intends to cut back on the number of models they will be making in the future. I wonder how that is going to effect what becomes available in SXRD and Qualia sets?

What sacrifices are going to be made to SXRD non Qualia sets? It will be interesting to see how the picture quality compares.

I heard last week a report that Sony intends to cut back on the number of models they will be making in the future. I wonder how that is going to effect what becomes available in SXRD and Qualia sets?

What sacrifices are going to be made to SXRD non Qualia sets? It will be interesting to see how the picture quality compares.

Penton, do you have any info on the non-Qualia SXRD sets due out this fall?

jb, what ever came out of the interview you conducted for Sony?

We are a pitiful lot. Just got back in town after being on the road for four days. It is terribly sad when you miss your TV more than anything else! (Just for clarification -- my wife and daughter were travelling with me)

Once a junkie, always a junkie...

:D

Penton, do you have any info on the non-Qualia SXRD sets due out this fall?

Sorry, I haven't been in touch with the Sony people for awhile.

after being on the road for four days.

On that note before I leave for my next trip, this interview about the sqeeter and fly may prove of interest to some:

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/videos/secrets-studios/mike-poirier-algolith-3-10-5/mike-poirier-algolith-3-10-05-index.html

Unfortunately, Mike Poirier doesn’t mention how user-friendly the sqeeter and fly are.
Elmo, I’m counting on your evaluation when you finally get the bug combo.

Anyway, tomorrow I’m off to the land where they consider their wine as seriously as we 006 owners consider our picture quality. Stage 1 may give us a good indication of Lance’s fitness level- as it is a time trial. I plan on riding a couple of the classic mountain stages to get a feel for what the elite riders are enduring (albeit our speed will be QUITE a bit slower than the peloton riders).

Au revoir.

Unfortunately, Mike Poirier doesn’t mention how user-friendly the sqeeter and fly are. Elmo, I’m counting on your evaluation when you finally get the bug combo.

Anyway, tomorrow I’m off to the land where they consider their wine as seriously as we 006 owners consider our picture quality.

Au revoir.

Elmo's sense of smell is impeccable; however, I'm not sure about the eyes. Though his vision is keen it seems to be more geared towards critters -- bunnies, deer, etc.. Nonetheless, we will dutifully report on any Bug activity as it occurs...

For a minute there I thought you were coming out here to the Napa Valley. Scream your lungs out for Lance, and make sure you have a copy of Outside (the one w/Lance on the cover) to read on the plane.

Bon Voyage, PM!

For a minute there I thought you were coming out here to the Napa Valley. Scream your lungs out for Lance, and make sure you have a copy of Outside (the one w/Lance on the cover) to read on the plane.

Bon Voyage, PM!

Thanks.
And check out Tulsa’s link to a Lance special on Discovery HD on Wednesday. I think it may be about the Discovery Team’s pre-season training camp in Solvang.

You’ll notice that of course all the team members have shaved legs but I’ll venture a guess that the younger team members are really going fast through the local countryside as you know who lives in that area…….when he’s not hanging out in the bedroom or courtroom. :eek:

Have a great trip, PM! I'll be in France in late July but after the Tour...

Cheers

Have a great trip, PM! I'll be in France in late July but after the Tour...

Cheers
In a sense, that may be better.

A couple days after July 24 everybody should be sober.

Cheers :D

Anyway, tomorrow I’m off to the land where they consider their wine as seriously as we 006 owners consider our picture quality. Stage 1 may give us a good indication of Lance’s fitness level- as it is a time trial.
One more favor, PM. If you wouldn't mind mace-ing or taser-ing some of those Euro spectators -- the ones who feel they have to spit on Lance -- I would appreciate it ever so much.

Guess you'll miss the F1 race at Magny-Cours -- assuming everyone makes up and there actually IS a race there this weekend...

On a Q006 related note -- for an idea of how different the color balance is between networks, switch between the 4 majors during the Bush speech. Though it's a shared feed the content is identical, and it's a good indicator of how one man's "flesh-tone" is another man's red...

One more favor, PM. If you wouldn't mind mace-ing or taser-ing some of those Euro spectators -- the ones who feel they have to spit on Lance -- I would appreciate it ever so much.

Generally, those are the inebriated Jan Ullrich fans expressing years of frustration of unfulfilled dreams. I prefer a pinch of Ex-Lax or even stronger cathartic added to their bottles of vino when they get passed around.

There’s nothin like a case of the runs just before the leading riders arrive with the bauthroom in the camper already occupied and no bushes in sight ! :D

Guess you'll miss the F1 race at Magny-Cours -- assuming everyone makes up and there actually IS a race there this weekend...

Correct-o-Mundo.

I’ll be on the west coast for the first couple stages and the motorcar race is more in the heart of the country…..kinda in the French boonies….more or less in the middle of nowhere.

B.T.W. since Blu-ray’s debut has been delayed until March 2006, perhaps you should ask your wife to get you this for your birthday….
http://www.experiencemad.co.uk/details/exn/index.php?code=FOE14

Better hurry up though as I believe they’re only offering it in July.

B.T.W. since Blu-ray’s debut has been delayed until March 2006, perhaps you should ask your wife to get you this for your birthday….
http://www.experiencemad.co.uk/details/exn/index.php?code=FOE14
She already wanted to get me tickets for the USGP and Canadian GPs; very glad we had something else come up. If this season doesn't destroy F1 we'll try to get to at least one race next year.

Pretty supportive wife; she's crazy about the Qualia and tolerates my love of anything that runs on gasoline OR electrons...

Hi, new to this board. Sorry if this has already been answered by someone... I bought a 006 today and pick it up on Saturday. Are there suggestions on where to get started with this TV? I will initially be using a Sony DVP-S9000 ES DVD Player, Dish Network DVR-942 satellite reciever as well as terrestrial antennae for local HDTV. I appreciate any help. Also, I like the design of the Sony stand that accompanies the 006, but it doesn't have enough space to accomodate all the equipment that I have. Is anyone using some similar type of design but a little larger?

Thanks

Welcome. I, and at least one other person here, use a TT400 TheaterTech stand by DiamondCase. Great people to do business with!

Case Link (http://www.diamondcase.com/TT/TT_HTML_Files/TT400.HTML)

Hi, new to this board. Sorry if this has already been answered by someone... I bought a 006 today and pick it up on Saturday. Are there suggestions on where to get started with this TV? I will initially be using a Sony DVP-S9000 ES DVD Player, Dish Network DVR-942 satellite reciever as well as terrestrial antennae for local HDTV. I appreciate any help. Also, I like the design of the Sony stand that accompanies the 006, but it doesn't have enough space to accomodate all the equipment that I have. Is anyone using some similar type of design but a little larger?

Thanks

Hi, new to this board. Sorry if this has already been answered by someone... I bought a 006 today and pick it up on Saturday. Are there suggestions on where to get started with this TV? I will initially be using a Sony DVP-S9000 ES DVD Player, Dish Network DVR-942 satellite reciever as well as terrestrial antennae for local HDTV. I appreciate any help. Also, I like the design of the Sony stand that accompanies the 006, but it doesn't have enough space to accomodate all the equipment that I have. Is anyone using some similar type of design but a little larger?



Just wondering where did you buy your Q?

Thanks for the reply. Does the TT400 make the 006 hang over the sides? It says the dimensions are 68 1/4 inches. My understanding via the Qualia site is the 006 is 75x25 inches. I didn't bring a tape measure when I looked at the 006...

I purchased it at Magnolia HiFi.

Spoke with the folks at Diamond Case. Very nice people... They confirmed though that the TT400 would have the 006 hanging over the sides.

Am looking at the BDI Avion 8529 cabinet, would appreciate thoughts on this from anyone that looked at it or owns one.

I'm having one of those BDI cabinets (and my Qualia) delivered tomorrow. I saw the BDI and Qualia together in the store, and they looked very nice together. With the speakers attached the Q did not overhang the sides.

There were two possible reservations that I might have had, but in the end they weren't a factor.

First, the BDI website says that the top shelf capacity is 200 pounds, and the Q is around 280 pounds. The store that I bought the Q from has displayed them together for a few months, with nothing collapsing :)

Secondly, the middle drawer can fit a center speaker in it, but not a large one. If you have something like a B&W center it is not going to fit in there. My center speaker is small, so it fits fine.

Mine is perfect as I removed the speakers from the 006. We only watch the Q when a good HD show was recorded on the 6412, or we watch a DVD . So, if I do use the Q I have the 5.1 audio system on.

Also, I DO have the large B&W center and they built a matching shelf for it to mount on the wall. Pictures to follow as soon as the shelf is put up...I hope next week!


Thanks for the reply. Does the TT400 make the 006 hang over the sides? It says the dimensions are 68 1/4 inches. My understanding via the Qualia site is the 006 is 75x25 inches. I didn't bring a tape measure when I looked at the 006...

I think I'm going to go with the BDI 8529. I use Dynaudio and it will fit in the BDI stand. The Diamond Case is really nice and seems like it would be a better piece of furniture, but its quite a bit more expensive with shipping. Thanks again for the advice.

No problem...let us know how you do with the Q. It seems like you are picking it up yourself?

I think I'm going to go with the BDI 8529. I use Dynaudio and it will fit in the BDI stand. The Diamond Case is really nice and seems like it would be a better piece of furniture, but its quite a bit more expensive with shipping. Thanks again for the advice.

I am picking it up myself or actually with quite a few friends tomorrow. They will load it into my truck, we'll need to move it into its new home. At 275 pounds it isn't light :) BTW, Magnolia HiFi has been very helpful with the BDI. They didn't have the cherry in stock but are lending me a Salamander case until the BDI arrives. They will deliver and install it when it comes in...

We got ours at a Sony Dealer here. Magnolia was very bad on this deal as I had the same issue with a stand "loaner". I have a Salamander in another room and it supports a 55" Plasma. The Salamander I did get at Magnolia, but, as I said, they were "funny" up here about the Q006!

I am picking it up myself or actually with quite a few friends tomorrow. They will load it into my truck, we'll need to move it into its new home. At 275 pounds it isn't light :) BTW, Magnolia HiFi has been very helpful with the BDI. They didn't have the cherry in stock but are lending me a Salamander case until the BDI arrives. They will deliver and install it when it comes in...

Mine is perfect as I removed the speakers from the 006. We only watch the Q when a good HD show was recorded on the 6412, or we watch a DVD . So, if I do use the Q I have the 5.1 audio system on.

Also, I DO have the large B&W center and they built a matching shelf for it to mount on the wall. Pictures to follow as soon as the shelf is put up...I hope next week!


I wa afraid that those 3 sxrd chips mignt get loose during shippment and causing them out of alignment,since there has no convergence adjustment

I am not sure if anyone here has seen any issues with the convergence.


I wa afraid that those 3 sxrd chips mignt get loose during shippment and causing them out of alignment,since there has no convergence adjustment

Um - yes they have (My red is out quite a bit, but not enough to return the set).

Oh, and the one I saw in the store also had red out some...

no convergence issues at all on my set...professional reviews available didn't indicate any convergence issues either...there must be something peculiar with you set joe c5...i would call for service...this tecnology is not supposed to have convergence issues as there aren't three separate guns as in crt technology...but i guess i could be wrong :)

Joe C5

Do you see it mostly in the corners and about how much out is it?

OK, PLEASE don't read on <spoiler alert> In other words you might be better off not knowing...

<Rant on - I guess> All RPTV CRT/LCD/LCOS sets out there have the potential to have convergence issues. Just like there is the potential for edge to edge focus issues in ALL RPTV's. It's the nature of the beast just like it is with CRT RPTV (just not nearly as bad). Reason being that they use 3 light paths to do the Red/Green/Blue. Any time you have 3 paths, this can be an issue. Getting those 3 paths to converge across the entire screen is a challenge (not easy). Since ours is at the light engine it CAN be calibrated at the factory IF they are willing to spend the time (not really economical, so not likely). <Rant Off>

That being said - I am super critical about this (and always have been). It's not really that noticable on program material, but with test equipment (Sencore VP-403) you can easily see it. On my set, blue is out just a hair (half a pixel maybe), but red is out much worse. On the far left side it is out as much as 2 pixels. I suspect there actually IS a way to adjust it (and I could probably do it if I had the info), but I'm sure Sony would not release this information since if one of us really messed it up, they might end up paying for it (not fair to them of course). The set in the store that I saw before I purchased mine had almost the exact same issue (I saw it on some text). Therefore I assumed (apparently incorrectly) that Sony just was not being super critical (like me), or the trip across the country banged it up enough to move it some. Not unexpected (the cost probably goes up exponentially to adjust it to within say 1/4 pixel).

Hopefully my pointing this out does not expose it for someone else (better not to see it - bummer).

SeeCamp380.......


I get exactly the same issues that you have and fortunately it is nothing wrong with the Qualia but some spazmodics that the 8300 and all the various software goes through. It occurs when you are switching between channels with different formats. 480i to 1080i or 480i to 720p for example. Once the box is in 480i mode (or any mode) switching channels within that mode does not cause the spasms nor the rectal chaffing that ensues.

And just to cause you to go huh........ the little bastard 8300 does not do this flashing 100% of the time. The flashing does look aweful but I was assured it does not hurt the TV. Maybe this is just natures way of saying you should never switch content out of 1080i (HD) mode.

Should be over 1100 hours on the lamp so far and still bright as ever. Anyone else bought a replacement lamp yet. Anyone clock over 1100 hours yet or am I in the hunt to be the first to wear out a bulb.


Still slack jawed and in awe of this set........................ amazing.

Motor,
Glad to see you around and that you are still in love/lust. My room addition has finally begun so I can see that bright light at the end of the tunnel... Glad to see that you are seeing the same after 1100 hours. :cool:

Crossing my fingers that the HDMI/DVI will work with my HD Tivo and Moto 6412 box.

SeeCamp380.......


I get exactly the same issues that you have and fortunately it is nothing wrong with the Qualia but some spazmodics that the 8300 and all the various software goes through. It occurs when you are switching between channels with different formats. 480i to 1080i or 480i to 720p for example. Once the box is in 480i mode (or any mode) switching channels within that mode does not cause the spasms nor the rectal chaffing that ensues.

And just to cause you to go huh........ the little bastard 8300 does not do this flashing 100% of the time. The flashing does look aweful but I was assured it does not hurt the TV. Maybe this is just natures way of saying you should never switch content out of 1080i (HD) mode.

Should be over 1100 hours on the lamp so far and still bright as ever. Anyone else bought a replacement lamp yet. Anyone clock over 1100 hours yet or am I in the hunt to be the first to wear out a bulb.


Still slack jawed and in awe of this set........................ amazing.


I'm sure I'm over 1100 hours. Has anyone been able to find the service menu setting that shows the number of hours on the bulb you've accumulated? BRT3's web site has the instructions, but when I follow them I don't find the screen that is supposed to show the number of hours.

By the way, I also have a slight convergence issue to the left of the screen with red. It is not noticeable with program material, but is noticeable with a white checkerboard pattern on screen. You can see this yourself using any of the DVD calibration disks, if you put up a white lined test pattern, like the standard sharpness pattern.

As one of the first 5 or 10 owners, do I still love this set???? ABSOLUTELY!!!!!!! FABULOUS PICTURE even with, probably, 1400 hours on the bulb.

I saw the 006 for the third time at a third different location. I was ready to buy one after my first viewing, however each of the last two visits have created concerns in my mind as to whether this really is the best picture available between RPTV/Plasma. Today I went to Sound Advice in Pinecrest FL and saw intermittent pixelation on Off-air HDTV scenes with running water. I then switched to watch volleyball on NBC Digital and found that the SD images via the Digital channel would appear clear and then slightly blurry and then clear again. The best decsription of this is akin to the problem that certain markets used to experience with ABC Monday Night Football transmissions wwith fats motion where a Harris HDTV component was used that would cause a somewhat similar problem until a patch was eventually issued. I went into the menu to see that video noise reduction was set to low.

Overall, it appeared as though the internal video processor was not top notch. Have others found similar issues watching anything less than the best sources? Is there a substantial improvement with outboard video processing? If so, which ones?

I sincerely wish this thread was not all encompassing as it is too difficult to search for specific issues and follow threads on 006 topics and responses easily.

Greg
(hoping to be a 006 owner if all looks right!)

I just have mine delived to my house,after calibrated the set and found everything was great
I mainly use this tv to watch d v d movies at home
I do not have a dvd player that has a dvi output
I am using the component 480p output to the 006,the pic was just beautiful that can not take my eyes off it
one question is that do any of you have noticed that there is a little more red push in the set
to me it just a little too much,but still look great

I saw the 006 for the third time at a third different location. I was ready to buy one after my first viewing, however each of the last two visits have created concerns in my mind as to whether this really is the best picture available between RPTV/Plasma. Today I went to Sound Advice in Pinecrest FL and saw intermittent pixelation on Off-air HDTV scenes with running water. I then switched to watch volleyball on NBC Digital and found that the SD images via the Digital channel would appear clear and then slightly blurry and then clear again. The best decsription of this is akin to the problem that certain markets used to experience with ABC Monday Night Football transmissions wwith fats motion where a Harris HDTV component was used that would cause a somewhat similar problem until a patch was eventually issued. I went into the menu to see that video noise reduction was set to low.

Overall, it appeared as though the internal video processor was not top notch. Have others found similar issues watching anything less than the best sources? Is there a substantial improvement with outboard video processing? If so, which ones?

I sincerely wish this thread was not all encompassing as it is too difficult to search for specific issues and follow threads on 006 topics and responses easily.

Greg
(hoping to be a 006 owner if all looks right!)

What you're describing sounds like classic signs of overcompression to me. I see the same symptoms on my Q006. I see them on my 42" NEC plasma (although not to the same degree 'cause it's not quite as large). I see them on my father's 70XBR950. Last night I was at his home watching PBS-HD from the off-air antenna he'd just had installed and the pixellation on fast moving scenes was HORRIBLE. The entire screen dissolved into macroblocking. Sadly, it's all about the source.

So, will this TV look godawful with bad sources? Improperly set, yes. Without noise reduction and filtering, it ain't kind. Processing (a-la Mosquito) does help and with judicious use of the internal settings on the TV I find I can make almost anything watchable. In fact, the Q006 is the first TV i've seen that does an excellent job of retaining detail while getting rid of the noise in Laserdiscs. The problem becomes that, once you've seen just how good proper HD looks on the TV you're spoiled and normal overcompressed SD looks just horrible.

This is going to occur with ANY TV you buy however. Watching the Tour de Lance, er, France this past weekend on OLN via DirecTV on a 50" plasma I was bowled over at how horrid the image was. Everything was overcompressed to the point of being devoid of detail. On a 20" LCD it looked a little soft but ok. Your mileage may vary.

gkouri,

Before you make up your mind, you should check out a Mitsubishi 73615 or the new model replacing it if it has been released. Some of us think CRT is still the best. Unfortunately most CRT-RPTVs are no where near their best settings (need calibrating) like microdisplays are out of the box so they don't usually show as well in the store.

I have the TT-400. The 006 with the speakers attached is a little longer than the cabinet, about 1.5 inches on each side. But because it's up a little bit it actually looks good. If you are planning not to use the Sony speakers then the 400 is a perfect width. And, I use the speakers and it looks good. The set sits up several inches and so only touches the cabinet via the base. Not an issue. The TT-400 is highly recommended.

Cheers

Hellooooooo people !

This post is coming to you via a rather circuitous route. Ya see I’m in zee Royal hotel and I can’t seem to log onto the AVS forum because I don’t remember my password !....and I don’t have the time to go thru the computer gymnastics to get in because if zee wife catches me on-line with AVS forum there will be penalties to be paid.

Soooo, I’ve e-mailed this to zee Royal Dog Sitter (a relative, of course…..they’re good for something) and he’s supposed to post it for me. So, computer time is logged as “Checking on zee Royal Pouch” which should pass zee Queen’s Q.A.

Well boys, there are only nine Americans in the Tour this year and we had six in the top 14 of the individual Time Trial of Stage 1!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT is truly amazing !

And WOW did Sir Lance truly kick arse !
Despite slipping out of his pedal at the start ( we didn’t see it as we were at the finish) and NOT having any tailwind to speak of (unlike the overall winner, Dave Zabriskie), he only came in 2 sec. off the winning time!!!
More importantly, he put about 50 sec. of time on Alexandre Vinokourov (whom I think will be his #1 rival this year) and over one minute on Jan Ullrich ! Not to mention, tons of time on the pure climbers !!!
Suffice it to say, Lance is in shape and ready for this year’s Tour !

We’ll be watching the Team Time Trial finishes on Tuesday, where it’s hoped that Lance will put further time on his rivals. Then we’re off to the French/German border (this year’s Tour dips into Germany) to cheer Lance on in the heart of “lu-geee” territory.

Brt, I’m packing plenty of Ex-Lax !!!

To show that this thread is indeed all encompassing, gkouri, allow me to refer you to the link of the Algolith interview one page back because it sounds like what you are describing is indeed what kanebear said “overcompression” and the squeeter bug should prove beneficial and relieve any inherent concerns you may have with the picture quality of the Q.

Take note that the Discovery people here have told me that the Discovery HD channel is running a slew of Lance/Tour de France prep stuff over the next few days which should look great on the 006 (unless they have some loaned OLN segments interposed) so watch your TV guides.

Here’s hoping this gets posted by my computer hog relative and Royal Dog Sitter.

Au revoir.
Penton

I have been stopping in occasionally at my local Magnolia Audio/video for the last couple months just to look at the 006. It's picture always seems so much better than anything else in there, it's fun to watch. I have been wanting one of these sets since reading about them late last year.

So, Saturday, I brought one home with me in the back of my truck. (funny that the cargo is worth more than the vehicle it's in!)

I currently don't have a stand for it, it is just sitting on the carpet but, man o' man, what a picture. I'm 'feeding" the set via component cables from my c-band system and currently get HBO/Showtime/Discovery/and Wealth TV, plus all my locals in HD from my basic 13 dollar cable. I so much more detail than my previous CRT sets (Mit's 73713 and Hitachi twx65). Are the black levels better on the CRT? Sure, I guess, but the black level sure seems pretty good on this set also. Plus the 006 is so much brighter. The colors on the 006 are also superior.

What is really amazing is the quality of SD on this set. My c-band system sends a very clean 480i signal that the 006 displays unbelievably well. Don't laugh, but I bet some people would think that it might even be a HD picture, it is that good. The scaler in this thing is amazing.

True HD on this set is at another level all together though. I have a large HD movie and concert library and was watching the Tori Amos concert (soundstage) and the detail in her face/skin is amazing. Of course, non bandwidth limited 1080i from discovery looks pretty awesome too.

Do I have any regrets? Well, I'm still trying to come to grips with the money this set cost. However, I have probably lost more than that in my constant uprgading of rptv's and projectors (AE100, HT1000, sharp 10000, H76, H77, H79, 7205 and 7210). I am hoping I finally bought something that will satisfy me for a few years, and I think I did.

A couple questions for you guys though.

I may want to try the firewire DVHS route and would like to hear peoples results using it with the 006. Also, what brand would you recommend?

In the setup menu of the set, there is a "power saving" mode that the manual says helps black levels. I can understand this with less light, but is this a high/low lamp setting? Would setting it to "reduced" increase the lamp life? (which my salesman says is 6000 hrs, but we'll see.)

Does this set show a tv guide when using a cable card, or must one get a cable box to get a on screen guide?

Lastly, is the sony 975 DVD player outputting over hdmi at 480i still the way to go? I have my 6600gt equiped HTPC with theatertek but I'd just as soon go with a stand alone unit if I could get similiar results.

Thanks alot, Rick

Rick

You are a lucky guy twice. The Q006 and the C-BAND. SD from C-band looks better than compressed HD from some cable/satellite . We are so used to the subpar quality of our overloaded cable/satellite companies that C-Band actually looks like HD. When I was living in UK I had Sky satellite and the picture was amazing compared to any SD in America.

Cablecard is a bit better than the regular box but nowhere close to the C-Band since the source is the same cable company . Don't get rid of your C-Band, don't do this to your Qualia.

Sergio

So, Saturday, I brought one home with me in the back of my truck. (funny that the cargo is worth more than the vehicle it's in!)

I currently don't have a stand for it, it is just sitting on the carpet but, man o' man, what a picture. I'm 'feeding" the set via component cables from my c-band system and currently get HBO/Showtime/Discovery/and Wealth TV, plus all my locals in HD from my basic 13 dollar cable. I so much more detail than my previous CRT sets (Mit's 73713 and Hitachi twx65). Are the black levels better on the CRT? Sure, I guess, but the black level sure seems pretty good on this set also. Plus the 006 is so much brighter. The colors on the 006 are also superior.



Congrats RickE,
Glad you are enjoying your new toy! :)

I have been stopping in occasionally at my local Magnolia Audio/video for the last couple months just to look at the 006. It's picture always seems so much better than anything else in there, it's fun to watch. I have been wanting one of these sets since reading about them late last year.

So, Saturday, I brought one home with me in the back of my truck. (funny that the cargo is worth more than the vehicle it's in!)

I currently don't have a stand for it, it is just sitting on the carpet but, man o' man, what a picture. I'm 'feeding" the set via component cables from my c-band system and currently get HBO/Showtime/Discovery/and Wealth TV, plus all my locals in HD from my basic 13 dollar cable. I so much more detail than my previous CRT sets (Mit's 73713 and Hitachi twx65). Are the black levels better on the CRT? Sure, I guess, but the black level sure seems pretty good on this set also. Plus the 006 is so much brighter. The colors on the 006 are also superior.

What is really amazing is the quality of SD on this set. My c-band system sends a very clean 480i signal that the 006 displays unbelievably well. Don't laugh, but I bet some people would think that it might even be a HD picture, it is that good. The scaler in this thing is amazing.

True HD on this set is at another level all together though. I have a large HD movie and concert library and was watching the Tori Amos concert (soundstage) and the detail in her face/skin is amazing. Of course, non bandwidth limited 1080i from discovery looks pretty awesome too.

Do I have any regrets? Well, I'm still trying to come to grips with the money this set cost. However, I have probably lost more than that in my constant uprgading of rptv's and projectors (AE100, HT1000, sharp 10000, H76, H77, H79, 7205 and 7210). I am hoping I finally bought something that will satisfy me for a few years, and I think I did.

A couple questions for you guys though.

I may want to try the firewire DVHS route and would like to hear peoples results using it with the 006. Also, what brand would you recommend?

In the setup menu of the set, there is a "power saving" mode that the manual says helps black levels. I can understand this with less light, but is this a high/low lamp setting? Would setting it to "reduced" increase the lamp life? (which my salesman says is 6000 hrs, but we'll see.)

Does this set show a tv guide when using a cable card, or must one get a cable box to get a on screen guide?

Lastly, is the sony 975 DVD player outputting over hdmi at 480i still the way to go? I have my 6600gt equiped HTPC with theatertek but I'd just as soon go with a stand alone unit if I could get similiar results.

Thanks alot, Rick

Rick


"my c-band system and currently get HBO/Showtime/Discovery/and Wealth TV"

Don't forget Nebraska Net HD on Sat T5 on channel 603

"I have a large HD movie and concert library and was watching the Tori Amos concert (soundstage) and the detail in her face/skin is amazing."

What is the source of your large library of recordings ?

"I may want to try the firewire DVHS route and would like to hear peoples results using it with the 006. Also, what brand would you recommend? "

Since you are watching HD on your C-band you must have the HDD200 decoder. If so you want to send it to 169Time.com and have a firewire output installed. It allows you to make HD recordings from anything you watch on C-Band using a JVC D-VHS recorder over Firewire (iLink). The recordings are fantastic. Absolutely as good as the source and better than the HDD200's component output. You can use the Q's firewire output to the JVC recorder to record OTA sources also.

Stew

Can anybody using the Q006 with cablecard make some comments on the picture quality vis a vis regular HD cablebox?

Many thanks

Sergio

Can anybody using the Q006 with cablecard make some comments on the picture quality vis a vis regular HD cablebox?

Many thanks

Sergio
I have both ---a cable card and a Motorola HD PVR in my Q006. The Mot STB is connected to input 6(DVI). My wife can't tell the difference between the two and I think the card is a little better(sharper).

Is there any place to get this bad boy in canada for less than the msrp of 17k at sonystyle?

Just got this from Algolith. Yes, I know there's a Dragonfly thread, but many of us with Q006s are looking to try this processor...

DragonFly Update

We thank you for your pre order of one or more DragonFly unit(s). I want to inform you that the first production batch of the DragonFly will ship in September; this short delay is caused by multiple reasons:

The HDMI compliance tests took longer than expected. (We are one of the first manufacturers to use the full repeater functionality).

The Alpha test is not over yet.

We got more customers pre ordering the DragonFly than expected. We decided to assess mandatory features in the 1st revision vs what was planned in the upgrade list later this year.

Realta customization requires longer design cycle, but will have better design!

We hope this will not impact too much your plans, if you have any questions do not hesitate to contact us.

Best regards,

Yves Corsi

Home Theatre Sales Network Manager
Tel. 514.335.9867 ext. 3299
Mobile: 514.581.4798
400 Isabey, Qc
H4T 1V3
Canada

sweet, thanks for the update brt3...i'm leaning more and more towards the combo preorder given the unlikely "stable" future of HD DVDs...not sure I am going to gamble on the winning format, although, given the current situation, I think HD-DVD may win out. Not because I think it is better, just because I think it will win the war given the current circumstances...but that all can change in an instant :)

Was just wondering whether any Qualia 006 brethren have the Oppo Digital OPDV971H DVD Player and if so, how it mates up with the Q...particularly since it passes 480i over digital.

On a similar note to the previous posting, I've recently received and setup the Qualia 006. I'm using a Sony 9000ES DVD player currently and am wondering if I should upgrade to a HDMI DVD player and if so, which one? I posted this question in the "Upconverting DVD Player Options/Impressions" forum, but thought I's try here as well. Appreciate any thoughts/suggestions.

Thanks

On a similar note to the previous posting, I've recently received and setup the Qualia 006. I'm using a Sony 9000ES DVD player currently and am wondering if I should upgrade to a HDMI DVD player and if so, which one? I posted this question in the "Upconverting DVD Player Options/Impressions" forum, but thought I's try here as well. Appreciate any thoughts/suggestions.

Thanks

Well, you can wait for HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. BenDover and I have a Denon 3910. Pioneer 59avi is also a good choice. If you want the ultimate player, then get a Denon 5910. :)

Did you see in the rumors area that Alan has heard from multiple sources that Sony is going to abandon SXRD? This would be a sad thing as it is by far the best technology availabe.

Ken

Well, you can wait for HD-DVD or Blu-Ray. BenDover and I have a Denon 3910. Pioneer 59avi is also a good choice. If you want the ultimate player, then get a Denon 5910. :)

You have the best display available today. You should match it with the best available DVD player. The 5910 would be an exellent match. I also have the 3910 and it would be less expensive, but cost does not seem to be a major factor for you or you would not have purchased the Sony 006 (too bad they didn't call it the 007 :D ).

Did you see in the rumors area that Alan has heard from multiple sources that Sony is going to abandon SXRD? This would be a sad thing as it is by far the best technology availabe.

Ken

Huh? Link please!

I hope I'm not breaking any rules doing this. I saw the post in the rumors area of the paid formum, here is the link and text.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=554430


"I heard this twice in one week from different sources ( both over seas)heard confirmation Sony is abandoning SXRD, too pricey R&D and production costs. Sony is not going well.

This article may be old news to some but could there be some truth behind Sony abandoning SXRD.

Article


Quote:
Sony will narrow the focus of its research and development to only promising areas such as next-generation video equipment, mobile phones and flat-panel TVs, the company's new president said on Thursday.

Offering a glimpse of where new management is looking to lead the struggling electronics maker, Ryoji Chubachi also said Sony would continue restructuring its sprawling operations while cultivating new businesses to drive earnings growth.

"While we have not made this public, internally we have been looking at several areas within our R&D from which we could potentially withdraw," Chubachi told a news conference, flanked on his right by Howard Stringer, the newly appointed CEO.

"I can't give details right now on what those areas will be, but I will (in the future) make it clear exactly what we will and will not do," he added, referring to Sony's R&D spending, which is expected to total about $4.8 billion (520 billion yen) this business year.

Chubachi and Stringer were overwhelmingly approved by shareholders on Wednesday. They replace Nobuyuki Idei and Kunitake Ando, who resigned from top management to take responsibility for the company's slumping earnings.

The new management team had told shareholders Wednesday that they would unveil a new strategy in late September to reallocate resources, suggesting they would look to narrow its product lineup or withdraw from struggling businesses.

They did not unveil specifics of that strategy, which has been internally dubbed "Project Nippon."

Welsh-born Stringer said he would use his skills as a communicator to help break down the "silo walls" that have been erected between different divisions of Sony, hampering collaboration and leading to missed opportunities in the market.

"We have to become one highly focused organization," Stringer said. "We have to talk to each other and we will re-evaluate R&D, rationalize product development, ensuring that the lineup is coherent and focused strategically."

Smiling often, Stringer tried to impress to the media that his first priority would not be to cut more jobs. He acknowledged on Wednesday that it would be difficult to "use an ax" in Japan.

"Cost cutting and axes are not solutions to all problems," Stringer said.

Some newspapers have been referring to him as a "cost cutter" while comparing him to Carlos Ghosn, another rare foreigner at the top of a Japanese company who saved Nissan Motor from near bankruptcy by squeezing suppliers and cutting staff.

In his former post as head of Sony's U.S. operations, Stringer oversaw "Project USA," which eliminated 9,000 jobs and achieved annual cost savings of $700 million.

Previous Next Under the current restructuring plan, called "Transformation 60," Sony has already slashed about 20,000 jobs, most of those in its loss-making electronics division. TR 60 is a three-year plan that runs through March 2006.

"We are extending Transformation 60. It was incomplete. It was a very good start, but we are examining different priorities for improving the performance of Sony," Stringer said.

Shares of Sony closed down 0.26 percent at 3,880 yen, underperforming the Nikkei average, which gained 0.26 percent on the day".



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Are they still doing R&D on SXRD?? I would have thought that by now, it would be a finished product.

Any engineers in this thread that could comment??

Article


Quote:
Sony will narrow the focus of its research and development to only promising areas such as next-generation video equipment, mobile phones and flat-panel TVs, the company's new president said on Thursday.

Offering a glimpse of where new management is looking to lead the struggling electronics maker, Ryoji Chubachi also said Sony would continue restructuring its sprawling operations while cultivating new businesses to drive earnings growth.

"While we have not made this public, internally we have been looking at several areas within our R&D from which we could potentially withdraw," Chubachi told a news conference, flanked on his right by Howard Stringer, the newly appointed CEO.

"I can't give details right now on what those areas will be, but I will (in the future) make it clear exactly what we will and will not do," he added, referring to Sony's R&D spending, which is expected to total about $4.8 billion (520 billion yen) this business year.

Chubachi and Stringer were overwhelmingly approved by shareholders on Wednesday. They replace Nobuyuki Idei and Kunitake Ando, who resigned from top management to take responsibility for the company's slumping earnings.

The new management team had told shareholders Wednesday that they would unveil a new strategy in late September to reallocate resources, suggesting they would look to narrow its product lineup or withdraw from struggling businesses.

They did not unveil specifics of that strategy, which has been internally dubbed "Project Nippon."

Welsh-born Stringer said he would use his skills as a communicator to help break down the "silo walls" that have been erected between different divisions of Sony, hampering collaboration and leading to missed opportunities in the market.

"We have to become one highly focused organization," Stringer said. "We have to talk to each other and we will re-evaluate R&D, rationalize product development, ensuring that the lineup is coherent and focused strategically."

Smiling often, Stringer tried to impress to the media that his first priority would not be to cut more jobs. He acknowledged on Wednesday that it would be difficult to "use an ax" in Japan.

"Cost cutting and axes are not solutions to all problems," Stringer said.

Some newspapers have been referring to him as a "cost cutter" while comparing him to Carlos Ghosn, another rare foreigner at the top of a Japanese company who saved Nissan Motor from near bankruptcy by squeezing suppliers and cutting staff.

In his former post as head of Sony's U.S. operations, Stringer oversaw "Project USA," which eliminated 9,000 jobs and achieved annual cost savings of $700 million.

Previous Next Under the current restructuring plan, called "Transformation 60," Sony has already slashed about 20,000 jobs, most of those in its loss-making electronics division. TR 60 is a three-year plan that runs through March 2006.

"We are extending Transformation 60. It was incomplete. It was a very good start, but we are examining different priorities for improving the performance of Sony," Stringer said.

Shares of Sony closed down 0.26 percent at 3,880 yen, underperforming the Nikkei average, which gained 0.26 percent on the day".





Well, I don't see SXRD specifically being abandoned mentioned in this article?

Well, I don't see SXRD specifically being abandoned mentioned in this article?

Which is exactly why Ken used the word "rumor".

If the article specifically mentioned that SXRD was one of the technologies that they were going to stop doing R&D on it wouldn't have been "rumor", but fact.

Anyway, I certainly hope there isn't any truth to this rumor. Sony has long been a leader in R&D, and SXRD is certainly a great technology.

Are they still doing R&D on SXRD?? I would have thought that by now, it would be a finished product.

Any engineers in this thread that could comment??


R maybe not much, but certainly a lot of D. Manufacturing technology for this product is obviously still immature and will need a lot of work in order to maximize the economic potential of this technology.

Which is exactly why Ken used the word "rumor".

If the article specifically mentioned that SXRD was one of the technologies that they were going to stop doing R&D on it wouldn't have been "rumor", but fact.

Anyway, I certainly hope there isn't any truth to this rumor. Sony has long been a leader in R&D, and SXRD is certainly a great technology.

I agree and hope it stays a rumor. I think we are only seeing the beginning stages of this technology. :)

I hope you are right. Alan (one of the AVS owners) is very much in touch with the industry and usualy doesn't miss. He did class it a rumor though and I hope it stays there. Anytime new managment is put in place to increase profits the cuts are usualy fast and furious.

Ken

Maybe they would just stop R&D on SXRD, and more specifically, the R&D associated with the rumored, non-Qualia 50" & 60" SXRD sets.

i think that is great news! firesale on the q006 soon :)