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jb007
08-25-05, 12:20 AM
I suspect we'll have some info once brt3 and possibly editor58 get their bug combos up and running...wasn't the new ship date for the combo some time in september...after the cedia show iirc.

Congratulations Ben, on making the 7,000 post on this thread. I would have put my money on Penton-Man. Zechman, where are you, to mark this occasion? :D

BenDover
08-25-05, 08:27 AM
Congratulations Ben, on making the 7,000 post on this thread. I would have put my money on Penton-Man. Zechman, where are you, to mark this occasion? :D

Thanks. Sorry I didn't notice otherwise I might have reserved the honor for PM ;)

BenDover
08-25-05, 08:30 AM
Can anyone comment on the picture quality of the LG OTA atsc
tuner via component or DVI or Firewire (if possible) versus the built-in atsc
tuner in the Qualia ?

Any idea on sensitivity of the LG versus the built-in tuner?

Grant


SeeCamp, sorry but I don't recall any other Q owners mentioning the LG unit. As for OTA reception/tuning, unfortunately I have not experimented with this as of yet since my antenna has bee out of commission for some time now and I haven't had the chance, or motivation, to get up on the roof and erect it once again (had to take it down for a new chimney installation).

Q owners have used JVC DVHS decks without problem.

Neo2005
08-25-05, 12:32 PM
I have just received 4 of these with two receivers and have built isolated platforms to accommodate the units within my theater seating. Having a couple of dedicated 15 amp circuits installed to handle the 15 amp draw of the receivers and should be up & running in a few days. :p Has anyone experienced this in your home theater setup?

http://www.thebuttkicker.com/

BenDover
08-25-05, 01:29 PM
I have just received 4 of these with two receivers and have built isolated platforms to accommodate the units within my theater seating. Having a couple of dedicated 15 amp circuits installed to handle the 15 amp draw of the receivers and should be up & running in a few days. :p Has anyone experienced this in your home theater setup?

http://www.thebuttkicker.com/

Neo, I have one (i.e., buttkicker) although I'm certain that mine cost much more than all of yours combined, even though I doubt it does as good a job as yours do...and my wife didn't even need any extra dedicated amps ;)

kaduku
08-25-05, 02:06 PM
Any comments on this. A few owners have stated that the picture quality was brighter and better than when it was brand new after replacing their bulb. An assumption was made that the reason was because the unit may have sat in storage and the existing bulb losses it's luminance a little. Now I think these Qualias sell right away after being manufactured, so theres no way the bulbs can deteriate right away. Any thoughts on this.

I have a my replacement bulb, but choose not to replace the bulb yet. The picture is still bright and hope that it will last until the end of the football season.

BenDover
08-25-05, 02:09 PM
I think it is psychological...

LL3HD
08-25-05, 02:20 PM
. A few owners have stated that the picture quality was brighter and better than when it was brand new after replacing their bulb. An assumption was made that the reason was because the unit may have sat in storage and the existing bulb losses it's luminance a little. Now I think these Qualias sell right away after being manufactured, so theres no way the bulbs can deteriate right away. Any thoughts on this.


A bulb will not lose any lumens sitting in storage. The only way the new sets could look dimmer is if the bulbs in them were tested- lit for a long, long time. Perhaps the bulbs in the new sets were lit prior to shipping, maybe they were tested? The new replacement bulbs are brand new. But I agree with BenDover’s assessment.

Zechman
08-25-05, 02:52 PM
Zechman, where are you, to mark this occasion? :D

The 7000th post on the Qualia 006 Owner's Thread! (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6086073&&#post6086073)


Honestly, I didn't think of it as a very big deal--but your humble Historian is still a little embarrassed to admit that he didn't notice #7000 approaching. Instead, I was watching out for the 7500th post (and page 250, by current AVS defaults), which I figured would be sometime in late September/early October at our going rate. Then in early 2006, we'd celebrate the one-year anniversary of the Qualia 006 by hitting page 300 . . . um . . . again (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5664355&&#post5664355). :rolleyes:

But since we're taking the time to reflect, I want to say congratulations to my fellow Qualia owners (especially you-know-who (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/member.php?u=7469396)) for keeping the thread alive and kicking all this time, in spite of having no major issues with the 006 to grumble about, which seems to be what sustains most other owner's threads. It's taken on a kind of life of its own and become a fun, friendly hangout--especially now that it's gotten so long that it exceeds the attention span of most of the trolls. ;)

I also hope we'll be considered welcome guests of the eventual KDS-RxxXBR1 Owners' Thread, since we paved the way for them just as the Qualia 004 owners paved the way for us. (And a bunch of us will probably be owners of these sets, too). :cool:

Here's to making Page 250 by my birthday, and page 300 by 01/07/2006, the most disappointing day of Penton-Man's life. ;)

Long live SXRD!

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owner's Thread)

Penton-Man
08-25-05, 04:30 PM
Thanks. Sorry I didn't notice otherwise I might have reserved the honor for PM ;)
Geez jb and BenDover,
You mean I slip away for a couple of days and miss the #7000 on my home thread !!!!!!

I thought everyone here was taking a little breather and low and behold everybody gets a freakin second wind all of a sudden!

Doesn’t matter though, as I figure as long as it was one of us self-professed “addicts” to this thread like BenDover rather than some casual passerby asking where he could buy an 006 for about 7or 8K. :eek:

Anyway, in regards to my brief sabbatical, I was keeping up with my local Cable Company (Adelphia) and its DVR contractor (Digeo which provides the Moxi recorder) which is a Waaaay BenDover type of thread as the Adelphia subscribers have been waiting for a new firmware version(3.2) to be pushed for about 8 months now and hoping that the DVR that we are using will be soon upgraded from its WHOPPING 80G capacity! to something at least respectable. Waiting and Hoping. Hoping and Waiting.

I mean my Goodness, if I record two NFL football games in Hi-Def that go into overtime, it maxes out my recording capacity on this DVR. I’ll be desperately seeking alternatives soon.

Anyway, said consternation produced this ……
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6081834&&#post6081834

Out of frustration!
If you take the time to read it, a little background is needed. Bend, Oregon and some Charter subscribers got this firmware version (3.2) loooong ago and Moxi-Guy is the Digeo rep that regularly posts on this thread to advance his product.

Apparently, this poem even reached the CEO of Digeo--- but who knows if it will yield anything productive.

Thank Goodness I have my 006 with no problems. I promise to be more attentive and stay in my neighborhood where I belong.

Penton-Man
08-25-05, 04:35 PM
A bulb will not lose any lumens sitting in storage. The only way the new sets could look dimmer is if the bulbs in them were tested- lit for a long, long time. Perhaps the bulbs in the new sets were lit prior to shipping, maybe they were tested?.
I believe the first couple hundred or so of them were tested(with the lamps on) but only for a very brief amount of time.
It was a Q/A type thing.

The first 10-15 actually got kisses from the Sony engineers from Japan. :D

Penton-Man
08-25-05, 04:38 PM
The 7000th post on the Qualia 006 Owner's Thread! (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6086073&&#post6086073)
It's taken on a kind of life of its own and become a fun, friendly hangout--especially now that it's gotten so long that it exceeds the attention span of most of the trolls. ;)
--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owner's Thread)
LOL, aint that a fact.
If you can't drive em out.......write em out. :D

jb007
08-25-05, 05:17 PM
The first 10-15 actually got kisses from the Sony engineers from Japan. :D

I was wondering what that lipstick mark was on the front of my Q006 :p

Joel
08-25-05, 05:45 PM
JB, you gotta get out more .... you need lipstick marks elsewhere.... lol

Cheers, all. 7000 posts. Holy mackerel. We are a windy bunch ...

Joel
08-25-05, 06:37 PM
On another topic, this thread is interesting, about the new Panasonic 65-inch 1080p plasma going on sale September 10 in Japan. Price is competitive with (and may street for less than) the Q006 when available here... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6091163&posted=1#post6091163

Time and technology march forward ...

Cheers

Penton-Man
08-25-05, 06:49 PM
Well I see that you and BenDover are straying from the neighborhood also..............
so, perhaps I must learn to multi-task better :confused:

For me the next BIG project is to put a BIG tv (hopefully 80" or so) in a room that absolutely can not take a front projector.

P.S.
Would also be extremely difficult to hang a plasma.

Penton-Man
08-25-05, 07:53 PM
page 300 by 01/07/2006, the most disappointing day of Penton-Man's life. ;)

Long live SXRD!

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owner's Thread)
Will you Pulllllll- ease shoot me a PM several days in advance so that I can take some Haldol I.V. to calm my nerves on that occasion and also joust for the spot.

Zechman
08-25-05, 11:39 PM
Who knows, maybe by then sycore will have his precious 70" LG set, too. Maybe.

NOTE: When reading the word "precious", be sure to imagine it in Gollum/Smeagle's voice. :eek:

--Dwayne

kaduku
08-26-05, 11:11 AM
Who knows, maybe by then sycore will have his precious 70" LG set, too. Maybe.

NOTE: When reading the word "precious", be sure to imagine it in Gollum/Smeagle's voice. :eek:



Speaking of our friend "sycore", he's been seen lurking around the Sony SXRD 50 and 60 thread recently. :eek:

Penton-Man
08-26-05, 07:14 PM
I can just see a lot of you, (especially Rob Tomlin, Paul Bigelow and myself) profusely salivating just after reading the first paragraph…………..

http://slate.msn.com/id/2124883/?GT1=6772

in fact, I never got past the first paragraph (Zechman-you know what I mean) so if the rest aint all good for us folks, I apologize for not pre-screening :D it with everyone errr......... for everyone.

roller11
08-26-05, 07:18 PM
Is it possible to connect, with proper functionality, a PC graphics card to the Q 006
so as to watch OTA HDTV via a PC add-in tuner card? If so, which input?
Anyone tested this?

jb007
08-27-05, 02:24 AM
I can just see a lot of you, (especially Rob Tomlin, Paul Bigelow and myself) profusely salivating just after reading the first paragraph…………..

http://slate.msn.com/id/2124883/?GT1=6772

in fact, I never got past the first paragraph (Zechman-you know what I mean) so if the rest aint all good for us folks, I apologize for not pre-screening :D it with everyone errr......... for everyone.

PM, don't forget, you owe me one (unit, not errr!) :D

Zechman
08-27-05, 01:21 PM
I can just see a lot of you, (especially Rob Tomlin, Paul Bigelow and myself) profusely salivating just after reading the first paragraph…………..

http://slate.msn.com/id/2124883/?GT1=6772

in fact, I never got past the first paragraph (Zechman-you know what I mean) so if the rest aint all good for us folks, I apologize for not pre-screening :D it with everyone errr......... for everyone.

Add me to the official drooler's list. The part I "never got past" was the bit about 8 layers and 200GB per disc--okay, maybe not right away, but eventually.

(For those who remember their DVD history, it took quite a while before dual-layer DVD's could be reliably manufactured, and this was the main reason that The Abyss--one of the longest popular movies before Titanic--took so long to come out on DVD.)

--Dwayne

BenDover
08-27-05, 01:50 PM
Is it possible to connect, with proper functionality, a PC graphics card to the Q 006
so as to watch OTA HDTV via a PC add-in tuner card? If so, which input?
Anyone tested this?

I have a myHD -130 connected to my Q006; don't think which HDMI port matters, but I have it connected via Input 6 through a Zektor DVS5.1 DVI switch.

Works fine for the stations that I can pick up off my cable company's feed...I didn't actually connect it to my OTA antenna as it hasn't been re-erected yet but can't imagine why that would make a difference.

Penton-Man
08-27-05, 06:15 PM
I believe this is the presentation that you are referring to. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5491307&&#post5491307)

And having properly answered the Royal throw-down, I shall henceforth be referred to as
the Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owner's Thread!* :cool:
--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owner's Thread)
*unless jb007 says otherwise
And I’ll bet some silently questioned the merits of the Royal Dog as a worthy study participant................. :D

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8931355/

Penton-Man
08-27-05, 06:17 PM
PM, don't forget, you owe me one (unit, not errr!) :D
And I just wonder what 70" TV the author is referring to in that first paragraph. :D

divedude
08-27-05, 08:18 PM
And I just wonder what 70" TV the author is referring to in that first paragraph. :D

PM,
I saw that same demo in early March when I went to see the first 006 on display in Dallas. The Blue-ray was flown in from Japan, as was the 006, and Lawrence of Arabia looked awesome. The split screen really made Blue-ray standout. And for that demo, it was shown on the 006 - of course :D And that was the same day I purchased my 006 and then had to wait 3 long weeks for delivery. And it would have been worth waiting 3 months for. :cool:

SnowJock
08-27-05, 08:54 PM
Hi Guys -
Got the Qualia late last night. Wired everything up today and for less than 3 hours all was fine and dandy. Then the picture went and no matter what, the set will not work. Unplugged this and that and a full power cord reset etc., dead as nails... except the green flashing light flashes about 80 times (like a warm boot up when you shut the set off and on again) but it keeps flashing then finally goes to a steady green.
The lamp seems to have gone but the lamp light is not lit.
The lamp motor doesn't run. There is no sound.
Does this seem like the lamp has blown after just 3 hours and no messing around with any service codes, just plain viewing?
Any help appreciated.

HomeGuy
08-27-05, 09:01 PM
Bulbs can get damaged in shipping. I guess you'll be calling Sony on Monday. let us know how you make out. How was SD and HD on the set for the 3 hours you got to enjoy it?

SnowJock
08-27-05, 09:19 PM
Hi and thank's for the FAST reply.
Can I say this??? The picture quality was absolutely f-ing amazing! And I am not easily impressed. I bought the Sony KDFXBR950 70" LCD when that came out and was VERY impressed with that one and it has served me well and all who saw it were very impressed with the picture quality and Hi def picture. It was on about 10-12 hours a day around here and never gave me a problem. I bought a spare bulb but never used it. All in all it has been a great set and I would recommend it to anyone (everyone!).
I wondered if I would notice the difference in the 70" XBR950 and the Qualia 06 I mean it's double the price! Based upon all the reviews here and online I went ahead. It arrived last night. Bang! Zoom! It totally impressed me! The colors were purer. There was more depth to the picture. Vast increase in detail and contrast. Overall on a scale of 1-10 I would have rated the XBR950 a 9+ on a satisfaction scale (coming from a former Mitsubishi owner) and the Qualia I would rate as OFF-THE-SCALE! It's a winner!
Now if only I could get to see that razor sharp picture one more time!
I did call Sony/Qualia and they said there was a problem with some bulbs. They will get one to me in a few days. Geez, now that bites!
Hope this helps those deciding on a new TV

Zechman
08-27-05, 09:19 PM
Hi Guys -
Got the Qualia late last night. Wired everything up today and for less than 3 hours all was fine and dandy. Then the picture went and no matter what, the set will not work. Unplugged this and that and a full power cord reset etc., dead as nails... except the green flashing light flashes about 80 times (like a warm boot up when you shut the set off and on again) but it keeps flashing then finally goes to a steady green.
The lamp seems to have gone but the lamp light is not lit.
The lamp motor doesn't run. There is no sound.
Does this seem like the lamp has blown after just 3 hours and no messing around with any service codes, just plain viewing?
Any help appreciated.
Welcome to AVS, SnowJock!

Sounds to me like it's your fan that conked out--if you're not hearing it and it's not giving you the "bulb burned out" signal. It seems plausible enough to me that a fan failure would cause the set to respond by not lighting the lamp.

Either way, it sounds like you're calling Sony. Again, let us know how it turns out for you. Your situation is a first for us here.

And what a heartbreaker! :( Three hours of Qualia time and then poof! :eek:

--Dwayne

Pete D
08-28-05, 12:18 AM
Hello Y'All,

New to the Forum, so please don't hurt me too bad (right away).

With the 006 I have set to 4:3 aspect, the image is about an inch and a half to the right of center.

Can you direct me into a menu to shift the image?

Thanks in advance.

SnowJock
08-28-05, 12:48 AM
The saga continues... after several hours of downtime and hours on the telephone trying to get the unit working again... I decided to give it one more try and viola! the lamp came on and TV looks as good as it did. So, the lamp is okay but nothing is explained. Can it be that the unit overheated? Is it a good idea to get the set replaced? I don't like the idea of it shutting down and flashing disco lights all the time.
If anyone can shed any light (no pun intended!) as to why the set shutdown in the first place, I would appreciate the thoughts.
Thanks' to you all.

JimP
08-28-05, 02:03 AM
SnowJock,

Its just Sony's way of screwing with you. :) Just kidding.

By any chance, do you have any problems in your area with low voltage??

brt3
08-28-05, 02:05 AM
Speaking of the devil :p Where the hell is that boy? Racking up stacks of Penton Paper or out chasing critters with Elmo?
Outta sight, outta mind?
:D
Sorry to go AWOL on you guys -- am here in "The Great White North", sailing into Juneau, Alaska, even as I type this. Took the wife and daughter on a cruise, but Elmo was NOT welcomed and is having to endure the hellish environs of a Bay Area "kennel" ("quotes" denote the fact that, in the SF Bay Area, the dogs have it much better than a lot of the people...).

Internet on this thing is probably more expensive than in France, PM, and it doesn't work too well when sailing the fjords here. Can't wait to get home and pop my camera's Memory Stick into the old Qualia and see my pix in Q-Vision...

So, hold down the fort and I'll be back soon, fat and happy (seriously, I had no idea how much food one could eat until I took a cruise...). If you are ever back in France please pistol-whip the arse making the doping allegations against Sir Lancealot -- have they no shame???

SnowJock
08-28-05, 12:17 PM
SnowJock,

Its just Sony's way of screwing with you. :) Just kidding.

By any chance, do you have any problems in your area with low voltage??


Hi JimP and thank's for the reply. No, I haven't experienced any low voltage problems before. Sure, we do get some brown-outs but not yesterday that I noticed. It's just strange that after several hours of not working it decided to work again and that kinda bothers me. I have to wonder if it will happen again and should I have the set replaced just to be sure? I never experienced anything like this with the XBR950 I had.
Thank's again for the reply.
Have a great day.

divedude
08-28-05, 12:27 PM
Hello Y'All,

New to the Forum, so please don't hurt me too bad (right away).

With the 006 I have set to 4:3 aspect, the image is about an inch and a half to the right of center.

Can you direct me into a menu to shift the image?

Thanks in advance.

Pete D,

I am going on the assumption you are viewing SD source material and you have the MODE set to Normal. What source are you watching, is it from the 006 tuner or is it from an external device? Does this happen from all sources and have you tried different inputs? On mine, the 4:3 picture is in the center.

If this is happening using the 006 tuner, I would contact SONY. I don't know of any user menu options that allow you to readjust the centering.

Welcome to the forum, we're not very dangerous here :)

jb007
08-28-05, 12:56 PM
Hi JimP and thank's for the reply. No, I haven't experienced any low voltage problems before. Sure, we do get some brown-outs but not yesterday that I noticed. It's just strange that after several hours of not working it decided to work again and that kinda bothers me. I have to wonder if it will happen again and should I have the set replaced just to be sure? I never experienced anything like this with the XBR950 I had.
Thank's again for the reply.
Have a great day.

SnowJock, I'm not aware of anyone else that has posted the issue you describe in this thread. Your apprehension with your current Q006 is completely understandable. However, since it appears to be working properly now, you may be hard pressed to have the set repleaced at this point. Continue to enjoy and marvel at the beauty of the images. If it happens again, it will still be within the warranty period and that may be the time to contact your cierge.

Welcome aboard.

roller11
08-28-05, 01:37 PM
I have a myHD -130 connected to my Q006; don't think which HDMI port matters, but I have it connected via Input 6 through a Zektor DVS5.1 DVI switch.

Works fine for the stations that I can pick up off my cable company's feed...I didn't actually connect it to my OTA antenna as it hasn't been re-erected yet but can't imagine why that would make a difference.

So, 130 outputs to the switch, which in turn goes to HDMI on the qualia.
Is the 130 to zektor link DVI or VGA? Also,do you have your 130 set to
output 1920x1080i? Something else?

JimP
08-28-05, 01:51 PM
Hi JimP and thank's for the reply. No, I haven't experienced any low voltage problems before. Sure, we do get some brown-outs but not yesterday that I noticed. It's just strange that after several hours of not working it decided to work again and that kinda bothers me. I have to wonder if it will happen again and should I have the set replaced just to be sure? I never experienced anything like this with the XBR950 I had.
Thank's again for the reply.
Have a great day.

As long as its working, I think I'd hang on to it. If the bulb goes out again, check to see if the cooling fans sound any different. It might be some kind of safety override system.

Not sure what's happening, but it seems that replacement sets have more issues than the originals. Makes me wonder what exactly they are doing with the ones that are returned and question if repairing the one you have would be better than swapping for one that is worst off.

Penton-Man
08-28-05, 02:05 PM
I highly doubt that this applies to SnowJock’s case, but as an aside, I do know of one guy (a non-AVS forum member) who got himself in a tizzy when he first took delivery of his 006 because he got a dark screen with no pic sometime during the first week.

Turned out he was on one of those movie stations and he apparently tuned in when this channel was between movies.

Penton-Man
08-28-05, 02:10 PM
Outta sight, outta mind?
:D
If you are ever back in France please pistol-whip the arse making the doping allegations against Sir Lancealot -- have they no shame???
Amen to that brother!

A synopsis of my (non-aggressive) thoughts on this matter.

1. There is absolutely no quality control as only the B sample was tested which leaves the whole process open to the potential of tampering.
(Unscrupulous journalist provides the “secret”number of Lance’s sample to unscrupulous lab tech, who then pulls said sample from the rack and spikes it – to provide L'Equipe with the biggest sports story of the year and sells many more newspapers that day!)

2. The “science” itself is in question, see…………..
http://www.velonews.com/news/fea/8746.0.html

3. So many ethical guidelines were breached in this process that heads should roll in that lab in France for “disclosing” an apparently “positive” sample to a French rag.

But to those who have followed this crap for several years, it’s just the same old sh*t on a different day…….. in this case, a different year.

Given the fact that Lance has now retired, I hope that this sort of stuff goes away before his children are exposed to it (and its repercussions) when they enter grade school.

Penton-Man
08-28-05, 02:12 PM
Outta sight, outta mind?
:D
Sorry to go AWOL on you guys -- am here in "The Great White North", sailing into Juneau, Alaska, even as I type this. Took the wife and daughter on a cruise
Hey, this is getting to be a trend, i.e. Qualians report in while away on vacation!
If I recall correctly, it started with kaduku in Hawaii, then me in France/England and now brt in Alaska or international waters?

I think that the Official Historian should keep of log of this.

Zechman
08-28-05, 04:23 PM
Done, done, and done. It's that time of year, after all.

And for that matter, my posts at the top of the previous page (P.234, #6991 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6075898&&#post6075898) and #6992 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6075924&&#post6075924) ) were made from my parents' house in Pennsylvania--using a (yuk!) modem. :eek:

--Dwayne

8675309jenny
08-28-05, 05:01 PM
I have heard mentioned that it is possible to purchase the Qualia for under MSRP. Could someone tell me where.

I live in Dallas and the only store that has the television will not sell one dollar under retail.

I would like to purchase from an authorized dealer but do not want to needlessly waste money.

Thanks

sloan

PS Since discussing pricing is not permitted on this board please feel free to email me at

prsloan@comocast.net

divedude
08-28-05, 05:57 PM
I have heard mentioned that it is possible to purchase the Qualia for under MSRP. Could someone tell me where.

I live in Dallas and the only store that has the television will not sell one dollar under retail.

I would like to purchase from an authorized dealer but do not want to needlessly waste money.

Thanks

sloan

PS Since discussing pricing is not permitted on this board please feel free to email me at

prsloan@comocast.net


8675309jenny,

You might want to checkout StarPower. They are a Sony Dealer and have good prices.

Penton-Man
08-28-05, 07:38 PM
And for that matter, my posts at the top of the previous page (P.234, #6991 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6075898&&#post6075898) and #6992 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6075924&&#post6075924) ) were made from my parents' house in Pennsylvania--using a (yuk!) modem. :eek:
--Dwayne
That be 4 ! And on sloooooooow modem no less, impressive Zechman!

Penton-Man
08-28-05, 07:40 PM
Since there is nothing new (in terms of series yet) and you may all be bored of watching meaningless HD pre-season football games (even if you brag to your friends that you can count the nose hairs of the Head Coach while viewing the game with your 006)…..

TONIGHT, PLAYING ON HBO HD –

ROMA BY QUALIA
for the language-challenged out there …..”ROME.”

It looks like it may be a new twist on some old themes.

8675309jenny
08-28-05, 08:06 PM
I am not able to find a website or any info for StarPower. Could you provide any additional info?

Thanks

sloan

PS the correct email is

prsloan@comcast.net

BenDover
08-28-05, 10:51 PM
So, 130 outputs to the switch, which in turn goes to HDMI on the qualia.
Is the 130 to zektor link DVI or VGA? Also,do you have your 130 set to
output 1920x1080i? Something else?

I have the DVI daughtercard for the -130, therefore I am outputing DVI to the Zektor and then going DVI->HDMI to the Q006. I am outputting 1080i but haven't fooled with any other output resolutions, yet.

roller11
08-29-05, 01:21 AM
I have the DVI daughtercard for the -130, therefore I am outputing DVI to the Zektor and then going DVI->HDMI to the Q006. I am outputting 1080i but haven't fooled with any other output resolutions, yet.

Ah, very interesting...apparently the HDMI input can handle 1920x1080i from
the MyHD 130.
I had been planning to upgrade to a 1920x1080 DLP set in the near future, but
after seeing the Qualia next to Sammy/Mits DLPs ( 1920x1080) at Soundtrack, I just have to have the Qualia, the PQ is so much better. However,
being able to use my PC as a HDTV tuner/recorder is absolutely essential.
Of course there is the minor snag of not having $11K lying around, but
I now have hope that the affordable smaller/cheaper Sony's due out in
Sept. will accept 1080i output from the MyHD 130.

If you have a DVI to HDMI adaptor cable, could you possibly try
going directly from the daughter card to the HDMI input?
Otherwise, do you know if the Zektor re-broadcast,
or in any way processes the DVI signals, vs merely passing them through?

Thanks a million for this extremely valuble info.

Orkedian
08-29-05, 08:12 AM
RE: StarPower phone number in dallas 972 503-6000

Zechman
08-29-05, 08:45 AM
Ah, very interesting...apparently the HDMI input can handle 1920x1080i from
the MyHD 130.
I had been planning to upgrade to a 1920x1080 DLP set in the near future, but
after seeing the Qualia next to Sammy/Mits DLPs ( 1920x1080) at Soundtrack, I just have to have the Qualia, the PQ is so much better. However,
being able to use my PC as a HDTV tuner/recorder is absolutely essential.
Of course there is the minor snag of not having $11K lying around, but
I now have hope that the affordable smaller/cheaper Sony's due out in
Sept. will accept 1080i output from the MyHD 130.

If you have a DVI to HDMI adaptor cable, could you possibly try
going directly from the daughter card to the HDMI input?
Otherwise, do you know if the Zektor re-broadcast,
or in any way processes the DVI signals, vs merely passing them through?

Thanks a million for this extremely valuble info.

Roller11:

Given what you've told us, it sounds like the Qualia's new "little brother" set, the KDS-R60XBR1, is what you're looking for. The scaler and electronics are near identical, and it even includes a VGA input that the 006 doesn't have. I'm very confident that any computer output that works on the Qualia will work on the newer sets as well.

--Dwayne

HomeGuy
08-29-05, 08:50 AM
Zechman: I'm kinda bummed they decided to only give us 1 HDMI input on the new Sonys. I woul dhave liked to see 2 HDMI and 4 component inputs. I have a Sat box, PS@, Xbox and a DVD. As it's now I'll have to run one of my devices in S-video. If they cut corners on something as simple as inputs what other compromises have they made. How would you know about the electronics when the set hasn't been distributed yet? Are u an engineer for Sony?

BenDover
08-29-05, 09:00 AM
Zechman: I'm kinda bummed they decided to only give us 1 HDMI input on the new Sonys. I woul dhave liked to see 2 HDMI and 4 component inputs. I have a Sat box, PS@, Xbox and a DVD. As it's now I'll have to run one of my devices in S-video. If they cut corners on something as simple as inputs what other compromises have they made. How would you know about the electronics when the set hasn't been distributed yet? Are u an engineer for Sony?

not sure where you got your info on the hdmi inputs, but the new sets will have two hdmi inputs...no need to be bummed! also, i think cutting corners is a perjorative phrase...the new sets will be top performers, imo.

SnowJock
08-29-05, 12:36 PM
Greetings (and thanks!) to all who offered help on my "3 hour Tour" of the Qualia 06. I want to especially thank Michael and Bob at Qualia who since last Friday have done all they can to help get the problem resolved. I turned the set on yesterday at 12:45pm and left it running until 10pm without incident. So unless it happens again, I will keep this particular set.
I want to reassure those that are considering the Qualia 06 this is a truly amazing an exceptional TV and without doubt the best I have ever seen. The picture is outstanding. The support I have experienced with Qualia is simply the best. Thank's again to Bob for following up today on the telephone, your service and your product is the best there is!
For now, I will put the experience down to "an undocumented feature" :) and take it one day at a time. Thank's also to all those at AVS forum for their warm welcome and support. You too, are the best.

G.B.
08-29-05, 01:03 PM
I f you think the bulb is getting to hot . Set your fan to high altitude....during the summer Mo. Thats what I do to be safe if my family lets the room temp get to hot. I don't try to turn my set on for 30 min or more before I turn it on again. They set it like this to let the lamp cool before you turn it on again. Sony will tell you to unplug it for a min. then replug it in for a reset or reboot.

Zechman
08-29-05, 01:18 PM
Zechman: I'm kinda bummed they decided to only give us 1 HDMI input on the new Sonys. I woul dhave liked to see 2 HDMI and 4 component inputs. I have a Sat box, PS@, Xbox and a DVD. As it's now I'll have to run one of my devices in S-video. If they cut corners on something as simple as inputs what other compromises have they made. How would you know about the electronics when the set hasn't been distributed yet? Are u an engineer for Sony?
As Ben said, the current info from Sony indicates that there will be the same 2 HDMI inputs. For that matter, they've added an extra 8th input (the VGA). The Sony manual is available online and confirms this.

No, I am not a Sony engineer. But I do follow this stuff pretty closely because I have a close friend planning to buy one. The new sets will have the same rear panel for inputs (which is also the same as on the current XS line), the same iLink functionality, the same Memory Stick functionality, the same scaler (DRC-MFv2), the same input capability (no 1080p via HDMI), the same menus (see the manual), the same remote, the same CableCard slot, the same ATSC tuner, the same optical output from the tuner & CableCard, etc. etc. etc. The only differences that I've been able to find have been those related to the VGA input and the newer iris.

So you tell me. Very different, or near identical? :rolleyes:

--Dwayne

LL3HD
08-29-05, 01:48 PM
So you tell me. Very different, or near identical? :rolleyes:

--Dwayne

also...

.. :( unlike the 006, the dumbo ears are permanent.

jb007
08-29-05, 02:19 PM
The new sets will have the same rear panel for inputs (which is also the same as on the current XS line), the same iLink functionality, the same Memory Stick functionality, the same scaler (DRC-MFv2), the same input capability (no 1080p via HDMI), the same menus (see the manual), the same remote, the same CableCard slot, the same ATSC tuner, the same optical output from the tuner & CableCard, etc. etc. etc. The only differences that I've been able to find have been those related to the VGA input and the newer iris.

So you tell me. Very different, or near identical? :rolleyes:

--Dwayne

While it remains speculation, it appears the new Sony SXRD televisions will benefit from newer, current technology, but likely will not have all the bells and whistles (quality?) of the Qualia flagship model.

divedude
08-29-05, 06:23 PM
I am not able to find a website or any info for StarPower. Could you provide any additional info?

Thanks

sloan

PS the correct email is

prsloan@comcast.net

8675309jenny,

I sent you a PM with the website yesterday evening.

jb007
08-29-05, 06:30 PM
8675309jenny,

I sent you a PM with the website yesterday evening.

There you go, Mini Dive has got your number.

divedude
08-29-05, 08:04 PM
There you go, Mini Dive has got your number.

jb007,

Mini Dive says "on the wall . . . I got it"

BenDover
08-29-05, 09:04 PM
jb007,

Mini Dive says "on the wall . . . I got it"

LOL

Your sense of humor continues to astound me!


Great job, keep it up...all this laughing is curing all of my minor ailments too!

Zechman
08-29-05, 10:34 PM
So you tell me. Very different, or near identical? :rolleyes:
Since a couple of people have chimed in in response to this, I just want to clarify.

The electronics and scaler of the new SXRD sets will be "near identical" to the Qualia 006.
All evidence points to this. But that's where "near identical" ends.

Obviously, removable speakers are better than non-removable speakers.
(Although mine are still attached anyway, so that wouldn't matter to me. ;))

And as I've already posted (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5993252&&#post5993252), it remains to be seen whether the picture quality will be better or worse, and by how much.
I, for one, agree with jb007* that the quality (and cost) of the components, especially the light engine and optics, will be a significant factor in how the new SXRD XBR's compare to the Qualia 006, and I believe the Qualia will still be a tad better on that front. The larger panels and price-no-object lenses are a distinct advantage that the Qualia will still have over the new XBR's. I expect this will translate into the XBR's being more prone to chromatic aberration, convergence, and geometry issues.

But they'll still be pretty close, and I think Sony's gonna sell a zillion of 'em.

--Dwayne

* which should come as no surprise to anyone who follows this thread the way your humble Historian does, since jb007 has also posted that he agrees with me (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5999480&&#post5999480) on this subject. :cool:

Is it a bad sign when you start quoting yourself?

HomeGuy
08-29-05, 11:54 PM
Zechman: UH...Not at the current MSRP. I think the 60" is going to have to hit 3.5K before they start moving sets in large numbers. There is just too much competition and now that Panny has dropped prices on their Plasmas, Sony will feel the pinch. Panny is sending a message to the industry so watch out. If my choices were a 50" RPTV or a Plasma with similar PQ and price I would probably go with the plasma and not have to worry about bulbs or wait times for turning the set on. I know ther eare pluses and minuses to each technology but Plasmas already have great PQ and nice deep blacks. Panny is now coming out with a 65" 1080P set so watch out. If the choices are a 60" Sony with Dumbo ears and a larger Plasma for similiar prices...Well u can guess what I would do and I believe the general public too. Now throw JVC and LG into the LCOS race and unless Sony sets are night and day better they will have a fight. Personally I think I'll be watching what JVC does before buying this new Sony set.

BenDover
08-30-05, 07:05 AM
Zechman: UH...Not at the current MSRP. I think the 60" is going to have to hit 3.5K before they start moving sets in large numbers. There is just too much competition and now that Panny has dropped prices on their Plasmas, Sony will feel the pinch. Panny is sending a message to the industry so watch out. If my choices were a 50" RPTV or a Plasma with similar PQ and price I would probably go with the plasma and not have to worry about bulbs or wait times for turning the set on. I know ther eare pluses and minuses to each technology but Plasmas already have great PQ and nice deep blacks. Panny is now coming out with a 65" 1080P set so watch out. If the choices are a 60" Sony with Dumbo ears and a larger Plasma for similiar prices...Well u can guess what I would do and I believe the general public too. Now throw JVC and LG into the LCOS race and unless Sony sets are night and day better they will have a fight. Personally I think I'll be watching what JVC does before buying this new Sony set.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, however, I don't agree with your assessment of the magic price point; I think it is what you are hoping to see/wishful thinking but not likely to happen for quite some time.

As for the "watch out, here comes a 65" Panny plasma," dude, it is priced at $9K!!!


Are you just here stirring the pot? ;)

CFoote
08-30-05, 07:49 AM
Zechman: UH...Not at the current MSRP. I think the 60" is going to have to hit 3.5K before they start moving sets in large numbers. There is just too much competition and now that Panny has dropped prices on their Plasmas, Sony will feel the pinch. Panny is sending a message to the industry so watch out. If my choices were a 50" RPTV or a Plasma with similar PQ and price I would probably go with the plasma and not have to worry about bulbs or wait times for turning the set on. I know ther eare pluses and minuses to each technology but Plasmas already have great PQ and nice deep blacks. Panny is now coming out with a 65" 1080P set so watch out. If the choices are a 60" Sony with Dumbo ears and a larger Plasma for similiar prices...Well u can guess what I would do and I believe the general public too. Now throw JVC and LG into the LCOS race and unless Sony sets are night and day better they will have a fight. Personally I think I'll be watching what JVC does before buying this new Sony set.

It will be at least another year before Panasonic or any Plasma manufacturer introduces a ~50" and ~60" 1080p set. The 65" set you are referring to is waaayyyyy too expensive to effectively compete right now. If they lower the MSRP they might get a few takers....

95% of the Plasma sets are 720p....not 1080p.

slimoli
08-30-05, 10:40 AM
It will be at least another year before Panasonic or any Plasma manufacturer introduces a ~50" and ~60" 1080p set. The 65" set you are referring to is waaayyyyy too expensive to effectively compete right now. If they lower the MSRP they might get a few takers....

95% of the Plasma sets are 720p....not 1080p.

Actually the list price of this new Panny is quite low, at least in Japan where it was announced last week. People are expecting the release in US soon at a MSRP close to 10K, according to several posts in the plasma board.

I love the Qualia but for the same price I will take the 65" plasma .

Sergio

CFoote
08-30-05, 11:18 AM
Actually the list price of this new Panny is quite low, at least in Japan where it was announced last week. People are expecting the release in US soon at a MSRP close to 10K, according to several posts in the plasma board.

I love the Qualia but for the same price I will take the 65" plasma .

Sergio

The Qualias $12K MSRP will not last long in this market....nor will the Panasonic 65" plasma at $9K. If shopping for the best 'bang for the buck' there are simply better choices, such as the Sony 60" SXRD or the Samsung DLPs.

It's nice that 1080p Plasmas are starting to be produced however....

HughScot
08-30-05, 12:20 PM
Actually the list price of this new Panny is quite low, at least in Japan where it was announced last week. People are expecting the release in US soon at a MSRP close to 10K, according to several posts in the plasma board.

I love the Qualia but for the same price I will take the 65" plasma .

Sergio

That is an interesting comment. Do you think the plasma has better picture quality? Not being argumentative, just curious.

And neither of these sets will accept a 1080p signal.

Hugh

grendyl
08-30-05, 01:35 PM
I didn't read 118 pages but I was wondering how good is the HDTV receiver in this unit (in pulling in signal), compared to like an LG stand-a-lone, etc. Thanks

roller11
08-30-05, 02:27 PM
As I understand it, the Qualia cannot process a 1080P signal at it's
various inputs. Currently, not a big deal cause all providers (sat/cable/OTA)
don't broadcast a 1080P signal. But what about the future? How likely is it that
1080P signals are in the plans for the various providers, thereby obsoleting the
Qualia? After all, 1080P is one of the 18 modes defined in the ATSC spec.

rscholl
08-30-05, 02:37 PM
To all 006 owners, do you have to have really good light control for this unit given the reflectivity of its screen? Is this a good TV to have in a large family room for day-to-day viewing? The house we're building will have windows directly facing the TV cabinet, and the overall room size is pretty large (contiguous with breakfast room and kitchen, so a lot of natural lighting) but I really want the 006 in this space. Most critical viewing will likely be done at night, so that's not an issue. I'm just concerned about daytime viewing. Thanks.

HughScot
08-30-05, 02:43 PM
As I understand it, the Qualia cannot process a 1080P signal at it's
various inputs. Currently, not a big deal cause all providers (sat/cable/OTA)
don't broadcast a 1080P signal. But what about the future? How likely is it that
1080P signals are in the plans for the various providers, thereby obsoleting the
Qualia? After all, 1080P is one of the 18 modes defined in the ATSC spec.

If you purchase a high def. DVD player you will want a televison that accepts a 1080p signal. Also, I recently saw that CBS wants to be the first in broadcasting a 1080p signal and they are working on it right now. Any new television I buy will have to process a 1080p signal as I don't want to have to replace it in a couple of years.

Hugh

kaduku
08-30-05, 03:31 PM
As I understand it, the Qualia cannot process a 1080P signal at it's
various inputs. Currently, not a big deal cause all providers (sat/cable/OTA)
don't broadcast a 1080P signal. But what about the future? How likely is it that
1080P signals are in the plans for the various providers, thereby obsoleting the
Qualia? After all, 1080P is one of the 18 modes defined in the ATSC spec.


Wouldn't this make not only the Qualia, but ALL tvs in the world obsolete. All kazzillion of them.



If you purchase a high def. DVD player you will want a televison that accepts a 1080p signal. Also, I recently saw that CBS wants to be the first in broadcasting a 1080p signal and they are working on it right now. Any new television I buy will have to process a 1080p signal as I don't want to have to replace it in a couple of years.


I guess you'll be waiting for a couple of years for your next tv. :)

LL3HD
08-30-05, 03:57 PM
Wouldn't this make not only the Qualia, but ALL tvs in the world obsolete. All kazzillion of them.
:)

True, but kazzillions sell for less than 12 g’s and there is only one Q.
A kazzillion would like to have the Q but only a few do.
Hopefully it can be upgraded in due time. ;)

sophie
08-30-05, 04:30 PM
I once posed a question about the lack of 1080P inputs and sought input on possible solutions. After a somewhat lukewarm response, next thing I know people are rattling sabers over it on a dedicated thread. Which also got me thinking about something else:

Doesn't it seem at all odd that we can't just ask Sony (or other CE heavyweights) about this? And get a straight answer? Forget that Q owners, among many other buyers, have put out many large for the privilege of being an early adopter. I for one will be looking for some kind of answer out of CEDIA. Hopefully we all can get some satisfaction.

Penton-Man
08-30-05, 04:45 PM
Is it a bad sign when you start quoting yourself?

No, I personally do it all the time.

I can’t tell if it is a Qualia elitist thing or simply an addendum to something I forgot during my original train of thought. :eek:

Penton-Man
08-30-05, 04:46 PM
If you purchase a high def. DVD player you will want a televison that accepts a 1080p signal.
Hugh

Hugh,
Sony Blu-ray outputs 1080i.

Penton-Man
08-30-05, 04:48 PM
Also, I recently saw that CBS wants to be the first in broadcasting a 1080p signal and they are working on it right now. Any new television I buy will have to process a 1080p signal as I don't want to have to replace it in a couple of years.

Hugh
But do you really think that cable companies or satellite services will ever provide it to consumers in the near future?
F.Y.I.
See……………..
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0604/06e.htm

LL3HD
08-30-05, 04:54 PM
But do you really think that cable companies or satellite services will ever provide it to consumers in the near future?
F.Y.I.
See……………..
http://www.cedmagazine.com/ced/2004/0604/06e.htm

Interesting article, here's one quote:

HDNet’s Garvin leaves little doubt about his confidence in 1080p, saying its adoption is not a matter of if, but when.

“The great thing about 1080p is it puts away all of the conversations about 720p versus 1080i. We can just get all of that behind us and all be originating in the 1080p world,” he says. Such unification is “not could be, but will be. 720p will almost certainly give way to 1080p and so will 1080i–ultimately, in the long run.”

Penton-Man
08-30-05, 04:57 PM
That's known as cherry picking.

LL3HD
08-30-05, 05:00 PM
:D
Hey gimme a break, I skipped right to the end. :)

Penton-Man
08-30-05, 05:04 PM
Zechman,

That's an interesting point.
What's worse?

Read only the first paragraph of a longee (like me)....... :eek:

or, only the last paragraph like LL3HD. :eek: :eek:

BenDover
08-30-05, 05:06 PM
Zechman,

That's an interesting point.
What's worse?

Read only the first paragraph of a longee (like me)....... :eek:

or, only the last paragraph like LL3HD. :eek: :eek:


I guess I'm a double-dipper, I read both the first and last :D

Zechman
08-30-05, 05:25 PM
To all 006 owners, do you have to have really good light control for this unit given the reflectivity of its screen? Is this a good TV to have in a large family room for day-to-day viewing? The house we're building will have windows directly facing the TV cabinet, and the overall room size is pretty large (contiguous with breakfast room and kitchen, so a lot of natural lighting) but I really want the 006 in this space. Most critical viewing will likely be done at night, so that's not an issue. I'm just concerned about daytime viewing. Thanks.
The situation you're describing sounds a lot like my living room, so here's the story:

The good news is that the Qualia (and LCoS in general) is very friendly to brightly-lit rooms, and this is one of the reasons that I decided to take the plunge.

The Qualia is very bright, and can be punched up to VERY bright if you sacrifice some of the settings that improve black levels. There is no problem with glare or the picture being washed out by normal daylight except when parts of the screen are dark--then it just becomes easier to spot.

Contrary to popular legend, the screen is not really very reflective (it has an anti-reflective coating), but it is really very big. I'd recommend against having any lamps directly in front of the 006. But aside from light sources, you won't see much in the way of reflection. Light sources off to the side are no problem.

The bad news is that full, direct sunlight from a large window facing ANY TV is going to be an issue you'll have to deal with.

The reality is that you're going to want to have a way of blocking the windows that are directly opposite the screen during the day--not because the picture is unacceptable without it, but because it is SO noticably better if you do.

Here's one way to do it: both inexpensive and effective! (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5751343&&#post5751343)
(But not a very high WAF, as Mrs. Zechman will readily testify.)

In dusk or darker, you're just fine. You definitely don't need to do the kind of light control that you typically have to do with front-projectors. But you do need to exercise a little good judgement in the worst-case-scenario.

--Dwayne

LL3HD
08-30-05, 05:31 PM
Here's one way to do it: both inexpensive and effective! (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5751343&&#post5751343)
(But not a very high WAF, as Mrs. Zechman will readily testify.)


--Dwayne

:D :D :D
that's hysterical!

Zechman
08-30-05, 05:37 PM
Still, others in the industry doubt 1080p will ever make a splash in HD. Harmonic Inc., a supplier of video encoders, isn’t exploring development of 1080p, nor do its encoders support the format “and it is not supported because we do not see really a reason to support it,” says Yaron Simler, president of Harmonic’s convergent systems division.

Contrary to others, Simler says broadcasters at NAB were not talking much about 1080p. While the technology was present, there was not much interest among broadcasters, he says.

“When asked, they are not interested,” Simler notes. “I think people are actually moving to (1080)i and they are really looking more at 720p.” Based on discussions with other broadcast technology experts, 1080p “is not anything that you will see any time on the television near you,” Simler adds.
And this quote more reflects my predictions: more bandwidth will lead to more digital channels (and thus more opportunities for more ads), NEVER to improving the quality on existing channels. See "DirecTV" for a practical example. :(

--Dwayne

EDIT: Hooray! 250 posts! Only 1500 more to pass Penton-Man! :D

Joel
08-30-05, 05:57 PM
I agree with Zechman. I have a similar setup; the 006 in a large family room with west-facing windows and doors opposite the TV. The room opens up into a large kitchen, breakfast nook, etc. Lots of light.

I put down the curtains opposite the TV when I am watching during daylight -- any TV would suffer under those circumstances. I would rather than set the TV to "blue torch" mode but if I did that I probably wouldn't need to drop the shades. I leave the other windows and french door shades up, just the window directly opposite. And that's for ambient light rather than glare, per se. Works fine for me, although I must say, I like Dwayne's idea - very cost-effective ... lol

Cheers

jb007
08-30-05, 06:01 PM
EDIT: Hooray! 250 posts! Only 1500 more to pass Penton-Man! :D

Congratulations to our Official Historian! :)

Keep going, before you know it you will go from Geek to being Special :D

Penton-Man
08-30-05, 07:26 PM
And this quote more reflects my predictions: more bandwidth will lead to more digital channels (and thus more opportunities for more ads), NEVER to improving the quality on existing channels. See "DirecTV" for a practical example. :(

--Dwayne

EDIT: Hooray! 250 posts! Only 1500 more to pass Penton-Man! :D
Exactly my sentiments, more goof-ball channels provided when I only watch a handful to begin with.

Congrats on the milestone, Dwayne. :)

divedude
08-30-05, 08:31 PM
Zechman,
Congratulations on 250 :D Mini Dive is pulling his fins off to count that high ;)

umr
08-31-05, 11:12 AM
Anyone interested in a calibration in the Northeast (New York, Maine...) should contact me. I will be there October 10th to 14th. I will also be in Austin Sept. 13th to 15th.

rscholl
08-31-05, 02:16 PM
The situation you're describing sounds a lot like my living room, so here's the story:



--Dwayne

Thanks for the info Dwayne. That makes me feel better.

Penton-Man
08-31-05, 03:55 PM
Anyone interested in a calibration in the Northeast (New York, Maine...) should contact me. I will be there October 10th to 14th. I will also be in Austin Sept. 13th to 15th.
Well c'mon people whose up?

Knowing how things are going "Over There" :confused: , Rummie may just yank the guys and gals out of the Point a couple years early to send over more 1st Lieutenants.

This may be your only shot at umr’s expertise for awhile.

BenDover
08-31-05, 04:02 PM
Well c'mon people whose up?

Knowing how things are going "Over There" :confused: , Rummie may just yank the guys and gals out of the Point a couple years early to send over more 1st Lieutenants.

This may be your only shot at umr’s expertise for awhile.

Already PM'd him and told him to sign me up...didn't want to clutter the thread :D

lance100
08-31-05, 05:06 PM
I have been waiting for the 55" LCD's to come out (1080) from Samsung and LG but have some interest in the Qualia however the 70" screen is too big. Do they plan on anything in the 55" area?

Thank You,

Lance

BenDover
08-31-05, 05:13 PM
I have been waiting for the 55" LCD's to come out (1080) from Samsung and LG but have some interest in the Qualia however the 70" screen is too big. Do they plan on anything in the 55" area?

Thank You,

Lance

Sony will shortly be shipping (mid-September) 50" and 60" SXRD models under the Grand Wega designation...there is an entire SXRD thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=545987) dedicated to these new sets. They aren't in the Qualia family, however, many are speculating that they may be just as good, if not better since they incorporate more recent advancements, dynamic iris, etc. Whether they will be better, worse or about the same remains to be seen but I believe they will be very good nonetheless. So, if you don't want to "biggie-size" your SXRD (in both screen size and price :)), you should take a look at the new SXRD line.

Neo2005
08-31-05, 05:32 PM
Quote:

Here's one way to do it: both inexpensive and effective!

Now we should call that "Penton cardboard"

Attention umr .... I'm in. How close to Geneva, NY will you get?

Penton-Man
08-31-05, 05:44 PM
Quote:

Here's one way to do it: both inexpensive and effective!

Now we should call that "Penton cardboard"

Geez Neo, I just know that somebody is going to make an "adult" insinuation about that comment, unless you already have? :eek:

F.Y.I. - They don't have cardboard in France (so, I DID NOT say such a thing to that woman!)-- they're using it all up to store urine samples from Lance A. since the time he was a two-year old to test later this century (without quality control).

Neo2005
08-31-05, 06:47 PM
test

umr
08-31-05, 06:56 PM
...Attention umr .... I'm in. How close to Geneva, NY will you get?

At the moment not very close, but this is negotiable. :D

Zechman
08-31-05, 08:25 PM
Quote:
Here's one way to do it: both inexpensive and effective!

Now we should call that "Penton cardboard"
No. No. No.

If you're not going to call it by its proper name, the Qualia Glare Reduction Device (Q-GRD), then the least you could do is call it Zechman Shielding (patent pending). :cool:

Just because the guy has 1700+ posts doesn't mean he gets to have my invention named after him! Sheesh . . . . ;)

--Dwayne

Penton-Man
08-31-05, 09:29 PM
That’s fine with me.

If anymore females hop on this thread and read some of the stuff you guys are attributing to me, my character will be forever tarnished in their eyes.

RonB63
09-01-05, 12:09 AM
Anyone interested in a calibration in the Northeast (New York, Maine...) should contact me. I will be there October 10th to 14th. I will also be in Austin Sept. 13th to 15th.

umr - not missing me by much. House addition progressing -estimated ETA of 006 around 11/1.

Will PM you down the road to see if/when you will be coming back.

Ron in Ct.

Penton-Man
09-01-05, 12:48 AM
Does Mrs. RonB63 still think highly of me?
I have a soft spot in my heart for her.

lance100
09-01-05, 01:49 AM
Thanks for your response. I will check into that.

Lance

BenDover
09-01-05, 08:23 AM
umr - not missing me by much. House addition progressing -estimated ETA of 006 around 11/1.

Will PM you down the road to see if/when you will be coming back.

Ron in Ct.

An estimated ETA, doesn't sound very reliable ;)

BenDover
09-01-05, 03:00 PM
Hey PM, what is coming down the pike for my viewing pleasure on the Q...hint, Cinemax HD...

Set...

Penton-Man
09-01-05, 03:26 PM
I don't know because I can't think straight as our coffee machine broke down this morning - so please don't keep me in suspense..................

what are you referring to pray tell?

RonB63
09-01-05, 03:32 PM
Does Mrs. RonB63 still think highly of me?
I have a soft spot in my heart for her.

PM, the wife has been asking about you. I have neglected to mention to her a certain conversation that allegedly took place in some french country!! I don't want to tarnish an otherwise prestine reputation. ;)

Bless her heart - she is now asking about getting either the 50" or 60" SXRD to replace my aging 53" Elite (after the Q purchase of course).

Quick (stupid?) question - How much access does a calibrator need to the BACK of the Q? I'm having a cabinet built for the Q and rear access will be limited (insert joke here!) :eek:

Penton-Man
09-01-05, 03:35 PM
Hey PM, what is coming down the pike for my viewing pleasure on the Q...hint, Cinemax HD...

Set...

I’ll tell you one thing, we had a Mormon couple over for dinner a few nights ago and we all watched “Rome” on the 006…….and I thought they would both jump out of the house and run home immediately after one scene was showing.

No offense to Mormons.
No offense to anybody in SLC with hidden affiliations.
No offense to the producers of ”Rome”.
No offense to those people that decide what can and cannot be shown on cable.

And absolutely no offense to my precious Qualia 006 which was just doing its job showing a program in all its naked splendor.

See what no coffee does to me?

Penton-Man
09-01-05, 03:36 PM
PM, the wife has been asking about you. I have neglected to mention to her a certain conversation that allegedly took place in some french country!!

I am sooooooooooo happy to hear you say that ! :)

Penton-Man
09-01-05, 03:40 PM
Quick question - How much access does a calibrator need to the BACK of the Q? I'm having a cabinet built for the Q and rear access will be limited (insert joke here!) :eek:
Well since umr is apparently back from all his gallivanting in the heartland, I will defer that question to him………………as he’s the man I would have calibrate your 006. :D

Penton-Man
09-01-05, 03:45 PM
I'm having a cabinet built for the Q and rear access will be limited (insert joke here!) :eek:
Thank goodness, Mrs. RonB63’s first name is not Quiana or Queenie!

So I think you be safe.

Penton-Man
09-01-05, 03:51 PM
Despite its appearance, the above quote is NOT an example of cherry-picking as has been done recently on this thread.

Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

SlickVik
09-01-05, 04:09 PM
This might be off-topic but I do know as Qualians you guys are rich - I'd like to know what you guys do -- As a recent Management grad I'm looking for a job and I'd like to be able to afford a Qualia product some day :)

So if you could kindly either post or PM me your occupation it would be greatly appreciated :D

BenDover
09-01-05, 04:12 PM
I don't know because I can't think straight as our coffee machine broke down this morning - so please don't keep me in suspense..................

what are you referring to pray tell?

Titanic will be showing in HD on CineMAX on 9/5.

BenDover
09-01-05, 04:15 PM
I’ll tell you one thing, we had a Mormon couple over for dinner a few nights ago and we all watched “Rome” on the 006…….and I thought they would both jump out of the house and run home immediately after one scene was showing.

No offense to Mormons.
No offense to anybody in SLC with hidden affiliations.
No offense to the producers of ”Rome”.
No offense to those people that decide what can and cannot be shown on cable.

And absolutely no offense to my precious Qualia 006 which was just doing its job showing a program in all its naked splendor.

See what no coffee does to me?

Yes, I had to quickly stop playback (I had recorded it on my HD DVR) during that first scene when my daughter trotted into the room asking what all the noise was.. :D

Penton-Man
09-01-05, 04:50 PM
This might be off-topic but I do know as Qualians you guys are rich - I'd like to know what you guys do -- As a recent Management grad I'm looking for a job and I'd like to be able to afford a Qualia product some day :)

So if you could kindly either post or PM me your occupation it would be greatly appreciated :D
You didn’t know?
None of us REALLY actually own a Qualia 006.

We’re all just Sony plants here ! :D

Penton-Man
09-01-05, 04:52 PM
Yes, I had to quickly stop playback (I had recorded it on my HD DVR) during that first scene when my daughter trotted into the room asking what all the noise was.. :D
The neatest thing about that scene was having your own personal servant waving a fan to keep you cool while “tending to business.”

Now, that is really elitist ! :D

Zechman
09-01-05, 04:56 PM
Uh-oh!

I had recorded Rome but haven't watched it yet.

Now I'm afraid to put it on when Mrs. Zechman is home . . . . :confused:

--Dwayne

Penton-Man
09-01-05, 05:04 PM
Uh-oh!

I had recorded Rome but haven't watched it yet.

Now I'm afraid to put it on when Mrs. Zechman is home . . . . :confused:

--Dwayne
Well if she prefers to be “on top” of the situation in the Zechman household…..all should be just swell with your viewing.

Silly me, I thought the whole show would be about gladiators and such.
Well..........I also thought that "House" was a home improvement type show.

BenDover
09-01-05, 05:13 PM
The neatest thing about that scene was having your own personal servant waving a fan to keep you cool while “tending to business.”

Now, that is really elitist ! :D

LMAO...yes, fanning "the boyz" as to prevent overheating!

Penton-Man
09-01-05, 05:26 PM
Uh-oh!

I had recorded Rome but haven't watched it yet.

Now I'm afraid to put it on when Mrs. Zechman is home . . . . :confused:

--Dwayne
Come to think of it though……………..

There was a teaser positioning scene that lasted about 5 sec. ----that zee Royal Pouch was particularly fond of, when I asked him for his thoughts :) :) :) :)

on the program,

………..after our dinner guests had blazed a trail of sparks in the carpet on their way out of the house after the show. :eek: :eek: :eek:

thestewman
09-01-05, 08:19 PM
Toshiba May Delay HD-DVD Launch

Link to the complete PC World Article (http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122383,tk,dn090105X,00.asp)

This might be an opportunity for Sony to get to market first with Blu-ray

BenDover
09-01-05, 08:25 PM
Hmmm, I'm going to be an optimist, as opposed to me usual pessimistic outlook, and read this as a possibility that they may actually come up with a single HD format for DVDs...this could just be Toshiba's cover story ;)

Zechman
09-01-05, 11:16 PM
I'm going to be an optimist, too. I think this means a much greater likelihood of Toshiba's HD-DVD being still-born when it does finally launch, paving the way for Blu-Ray to be the one true standard >10GB optical disk. :)

--Dwayne

RonB63
09-01-05, 11:27 PM
Hmmm, I'm going to be an optimist, as opposed to me usual pessimistic outlook, and read this as a possibility that they may actually come up with a single HD format for DVDs...this could just be Toshiba's cover story ;)

BD - Let's assume that each deck would retail for 1K. IF they did come out with a unified format (one deck) how much of a premium (if any) would you pay for it?

Personally I would go up to about $1500 before I started to feel anxiety. I know this is still less than 2 players but...

Any others?

RonB63
09-01-05, 11:30 PM
Despite its appearance, the above quote is NOT an example of cherry-picking as has been done recently on this thread.

Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

So THAT is what you were doing under the guise of getting directions! :eek:

BenDover
09-02-05, 12:00 AM
BD - Let's assume that each deck would retail for 1K. IF they did come out with a unified format (one deck) how much of a premium (if any) would you pay for it?

Personally I would go up to about $1500 before I started to feel anxiety. I know this is still less than 2 players but...

Any others?


Honestly, I would likely sit this one out a while...it would be way too volatile in the beginning and other than the being the new format player, I think there will be so much room for improvement in the beginning that I would want to see at least 2 or 3 generations come out :eek:

As for price, I don't want to give the manufacturers a public reason to feel confident they can rape me...I'll say, $500 :D

BenDover
09-02-05, 12:01 AM
I'm going to be an optimist, too. I think this means a much greater likelihood of Toshiba's HD-DVD being still-born when it does finally launch, paving the way for Blu-Ray to be the one true standard >10GB optical disk. :)

--Dwayne

Did you mean 100GB?

Honestly, just what the hell are they going to put on these disks that would consume all that space?? I am not now, nor have I ever been, one that watches extras, etc. Atypical, yes I know :D

jb007
09-02-05, 01:10 AM
Don't we all remember when everyone told us we'd never be able to fill up a 20 GB hard drive??? HD content takes up a lot of space baby :p

As for price of hardware; I'm less concerned about that, than I am about purchasing thousands of dollars worth of Blu-Ray discs or HD-DVDs, that may go the way of the Betamax tape.

Penton-Man
09-02-05, 12:35 PM
As for price, I don't want to give the manufacturers a public reason to feel confident they can rape me...I'll say, $500 :D
I hear that the Sony Blu-ray units will have an MSRP of "roughly $1,000."

Penton-Man
09-02-05, 12:35 PM
Panic on the Algolith thread.

New specs on Dragonfly show no 1080p output !

It shouldn’t effect the purchasing decision of Qualia 006 owners for this bug, in the least. :D

wjchan
09-02-05, 12:52 PM
No panic, just someone misread the spec.

G.B.
09-02-05, 01:09 PM
What D.R.C. Setting have some of you got for some of your 480 I inputs. Clarity, Reality.

Penton-Man
09-02-05, 03:42 PM
No panic, just someone misread the spec.
:) I was wondering what it would take to get you to start posting on this thread again. :D

wjchan
09-02-05, 03:53 PM
hehe. I saw the 006 again at another local dealer last week and it looked great! It could resolve the Mosquito noise in SD digital broadcast a lot better than my CRT RPTV. I think the Algolith Mosquito would help a lot in that situation. I'm saving my pennies for an "affordable" 1080p digital FP :)

divedude
09-02-05, 05:24 PM
Did you mean 100GB?

Honestly, just what the hell are they going to put on these disks that would consume all that space?? I am not now, nor have I ever been, one that watches extras, etc. Atypical, yes I know :D

BenDover,
Assuming the Blu-ray will be able to accept data files, I would like to use it for backup of some of my PC files. My video avi files take up a lot of space.

kaduku
09-02-05, 05:47 PM
This might be off-topic but I do know as Qualians you guys are rich - I'd like to know what you guys do -- As a recent Management grad I'm looking for a job and I'd like to be able to afford a Qualia product some day :)

So if you could kindly either post or PM me your occupation it would be greatly appreciated :D


I have actually been pretending to own one of these babies, just to make me feel good.

camchow
09-03-05, 10:57 AM
After two months of enjoying the Q006 and wa very pleased
Tried to calibrate the set myself using the DVE disc and the pic was really great
however in some DVD movies the dark scene looked grainy
Has any one noticed that or is it a normal condition on sxrd.lcd or dlp type of display
I am using component output 480p to the Q with Bettercable ref cable
any ideas?

thesirjay
09-03-05, 11:24 AM
Big ?.... Can the Qualia handle a move to Europe? I am pondering moving to Ireland and would hate to have to leave this baby behind(company just did the "massive outsourcing to an offshore labor source" thing). Obviously there are multiple issues - format (PAL) and physical transport. Ideas?

kaduku
09-03-05, 11:59 AM
After two months of enjoying the Q006 and wa very pleased
Tried to calibrate the set myself using the DVE disc and the pic was really great
however in some DVD movies the dark scene looked grainy
Has any one noticed that or is it a normal condition on sxrd.lcd or dlp type of display
I am using component output 480p to the Q with Bettercable ref cable
any ideas?

What DVD player are you using? Some DVD movies do have bad transfer (garbage in, garbage out).

Zechman
09-03-05, 12:27 PM
After two months of enjoying the Q006 and wa very pleased
Tried to calibrate the set myself using the DVE disc and the pic was really great
however in some DVD movies the dark scene looked grainy
Has any one noticed that or is it a normal condition on sxrd.lcd or dlp type of display
I am using component output 480p to the Q with Bettercable ref cable
any ideas?
Also, when viewing film-based sources, dark scenes and long zooms seem to be the worst-case-scenario for making the actual film grain visible. You'll even see this happen in movie theaters. Video-based sources (American Idol is a good example--so is HD sports, which is seldom dark, but often zoomed in from long distances away) don't do this.

I guess it's all part of that "film-like" look that everyone aspires to. :rolleyes:

--Dwayne

Zechman
09-03-05, 12:35 PM
Big ?.... Can the Qualia handle a move to Europe? I am pondering moving to Ireland and would hate to have to leave this baby behind(company just did the "massive outsourcing to an offshore labor source" thing). Obviously there are multiple issues - format (PAL) and physical transport. Ideas?
Unfortunately, I think you already know that you're the first owner on this thread with plans to move the set. :(

As long as it's covered properly, I don't see why it would be any more difficult than moving any other heavy piece of furniture. Use something very soft against the screen (like a kaduku-cover, but a not a pretend one like he uses;) ), and heavy padding after that.

But just think: You'll have the first 006 in the world that's been on three different continents! :cool:

--Dwayne

divedude
09-03-05, 02:28 PM
Big ?.... Can the Qualia handle a move to Europe? I am pondering moving to Ireland and would hate to have to leave this baby behind(company just did the "massive outsourcing to an offshore labor source" thing). Obviously there are multiple issues - format (PAL) and physical transport. Ideas?

thesirjay,
You might check with the local Sony dealer to see if they can give you a genuine 006 packing box and all the associated protective coverings, after they have made delivery to someone. Usually the customer just sends the box back with the delivery guys, unless they are Zechman and want to use it as a curtain :D

camchow
09-03-05, 02:30 PM
thank you for the info
I am using the sony dvpns999es for now and may be upgrade to the hidef Dvd player in the future

Neo2005
09-03-05, 04:49 PM
Quote: Divedude

"thesirjay,
You might check with the local Sony dealer to see if they can give you a genuine 006 packing box and all the associated protective coverings, after they have made delivery to someone. Usually the customer just sends the box back with the delivery guys, unless they are Zechman and want to use it as a curtain"


DD Correction .... that is not a curtain ... that is Penton-Cardboard! A corrugated Penton-Paper

divedude
09-03-05, 05:54 PM
Quote: Divedude

"thesirjay,
You might check with the local Sony dealer to see if they can give you a genuine 006 packing box and all the associated protective coverings, after they have made delivery to someone. Usually the customer just sends the box back with the delivery guys, unless they are Zechman and want to use it as a curtain"


DD Correction .... that is not a curtain ... that is Penton-Cardboard! A corrugated Penton-Paper

Neo2005,
I stand corrected. I guess I misinterpreted the picture and his description of what he used the box for.

thesirjay
09-03-05, 05:55 PM
Thanks all - so you think I could hook up to european cable no problem? Hopefully a voltage down converter would do the trick in terms of juice. Sigh I don't like to think of what fun it will have onboard a ship rocking etc. Nothing is for sure yet I just am pondering a move and of course the Qualia is on my mind as always :).

Zechman
09-03-05, 08:56 PM
DD Correction .... that is not a curtain ... that is Penton-Cardboard! A corrugated Penton-Paper

Dammit Neo, this is your second warning (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6122567&&#post6122567)!

Stop trying to give away my invention!

I spent, like, a whole hour cutting down that box! To say nothing of the amount of time I spent listening to Mrs. Zechman's complaints!

DiveDude: you were absolutely correct. Don't listen to him. I think he's just teething.

--Dwayne

;) ;) ;)

brt3
09-03-05, 09:42 PM
So, Good-day, eh?

Hope all you hosers are eatin' lots of back-bacon and drinkin' lots of Molsons, all while wearin' your toques and sittin' in front of the Canadian flag. As for me, I'm fresh back from "The Great White North" -- and Alaska, too -- and am ready for a Qualia-Thon. Hope all is well in Q-Land!

Take off, eh?

camchow
09-04-05, 11:07 AM
So if the Q does all the scaling internally,I would like to know what resolution of the Q outputting if I feed my DVD player to the Q outputting 480p using just the component cables
Am I watching a 1080i picture or something else
How about 480i to the Q,would the Q upcoverted to 1080i?

G.B.
09-04-05, 12:39 PM
For a long move I would of used the box it come in....Ok call the place you got it from & tell them to keep the box after they drop off the next Qualia...... This is a normal request.

jb007
09-04-05, 01:11 PM
So if the Q does all the scaling internally,I would like to know what resolution of the Q outputting if I feed my DVD player to the Q outputting 480p using just the component cables
Am I watching a 1080i picture or something else
How about 480i to the Q,would the Q upcoverted to 1080i?

All input to the Q006 is scaled and output in 1080p.

lance100
09-04-05, 01:41 PM
I apologize as I understand this is not the DVD section but thought my question would be best answered here as it is specific to Sony TV's.

I will be replacing my Pioneer 610 Elite soon. I am looking at the Qualia or the 60" Grand WEGA SXRD soon to be arriving at Magnolia. It is going to come down to a space issue. What DVD players would be good choices for me to look at with these sets? Are most here using the hdmi into the Sony's?

I appreciate your responses.

Lance

jb007
09-04-05, 02:50 PM
There are no right or wrong answers. Most here prefer the HDMI input, but some feel the component is just as good. There is also a feeling that the Q006 scaler is superior to that contained in a sub-$1k DVD player, so some believe feeding a 480i signal is better than upconverted (720p or 1080i).

Most of us are eagerly awaiting Blu-Ray or HD-DVD players, which are right around the corner, so the prevailing wisdom is not to spend more than $300 on a "temporary" DVD player.

lance100
09-04-05, 03:39 PM
Ok..Thank you.

Lance

mpsan
09-04-05, 05:04 PM
Nope, not atypical, , my wife likes the extras...always afraid that she is going to miss something. I have seen VERY few that I even cared about and they turn a 2 hour movie into a 3 hour event! I am so sorry I selected to see them "inline" while watching RAY.

Did you mean 100GB?

Honestly, just what the hell are they going to put on these disks that would consume all that space?? I am not now, nor have I ever been, one that watches extras, etc. Atypical, yes I know :D

camchow
09-04-05, 06:54 PM
just read home theather mag and there was an ad about the new sxrd set from sony
not very detail but the Q was 267lbs, the weight of the new sxrd set may be 130 lb
somthing is missing?

thesirjay
09-04-05, 06:54 PM
There is a bit of irony on the dvd player issue... many are using the Sony 975 (which has the advantage of 480i over hdmi). The irony comes in that despite choosing this for the 480i over hdmi it appears the better choice is COMPONENT over 480i on this. I have hooked up both and darn are they close but I finally decided to go component based in good part on UMRs nice work comparing inputs.

tonydeluce
09-04-05, 07:28 PM
just read home theather mag and there was an ad about the new sxrd set from sony
not very detail but the Q was 267lbs, the weight of the new sxrd set may be 130 lb
somthing is missing?

The heavy screen for one...

brt3
09-04-05, 07:34 PM
Wow! After a nearly two-week FQQ (Forced Qualia Quarantine) I returned home last night, switched on CSI, and proceeded to be transfixed. This set just continues to amaze me. If you look at purchases from a bang-to-the-buck ratio, my Q006 has been phenomenal. I am SO glad I bought early; even though I paid top-dollar I've gotten to use my set since early January. This set rules! Too bad Kaduku's been pretending all this time. Man, he even had me fooled!
;-)

jb007
09-05-05, 02:50 AM
Anyone have any experience with the (somewhat new) Sony HDR-HC1 HDV 1080i Handycam Camcorder?

I know colorTV posted several months ago his experience with the $3,600 Sony HDR-FX1, and now there is a Qualia 004 HD camcorder, but I'm wondering how video looks on the Q006 from this small $2,000 HD camcorder.

HomeGuy
09-05-05, 09:26 AM
I'm wondering if anyone has any issues with glare on the Qualia. I can't wait to see one. Also, I was wondering if the I-link would take 1080P. I took this from a review: As part of the demonstration, they played a scene from the Spider-Man 2 DVD (yes, it's a Sony Pictures flick--in case there was any doubt in your mind). They then brought in a ringer, firing up the high-def Blu-ray version of the same film using a $3,000 Japan-only Blu-ray player/recorder connected via FireWire (or, as Sony calls it, iLink). The set was fed a 1080i signal but upconverted it to 1080p. (Sony reps said future Blu-ray players would be capable of outputting a native 1080p signal.)

jb007
09-05-05, 12:10 PM
The Q006 has a protective screen that is coated with an anti-glare formula, which helps substantially. There is a lot of real estate on a 70" screen, so there is some glare, depending upon the light source, but most here have not found it to be an issue.

At this point, the belief is the firewire inputs on the Q006 will not accept 1080p input. Sony Blu-Ray players will also be outputting 1080i.

divedude
09-05-05, 02:09 PM
Anyone have any experience with the (somewhat new) Sony HDR-HC1 HDV 1080i Handycam Camcorder?

I know colorTV posted several months ago his experience with the $3,600 Sony HDR-FX1, and now there is a Qualia 004 HD camcorder, but I'm wondering how video looks on the Q006 from this small $2,000 HD camcorder.

jb007,

I have been looking at the HC1 and found the following review:

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Sony-HCR-HC1-Review.htm

I like the small size. If I ever get to dive again (and I plan to), I might get one, since it doesn't require as large a housing as the other above mentioned HD cameras do. :)

HomeGuy
09-05-05, 03:47 PM
jb007: I wonder if Sony is using encryption to block a 1080P signal. In any event it's not a deal breaker. I wonder if the Sony I-link will work with non Sony applicance brands? My next DVD player will support real HD but I wonder if Sony has broken down and make universal players or are they still snubbing DVD-A?

jb007
09-05-05, 05:47 PM
The general feeling is that it is not an encryption problem. There have been reports that current technology doesn't allow for 1080p input via HDMI (there is an expensive upgrade for the Q004), but iLink is another question. umr has calibrated quite a few Q006s and he says the iLink inputs into the Q006 are superior to HDMI or component.

Some of us have a JVC DHVS connected to the Q006 via iLink and it works fine (however on screen graphics generated by the DVHS are not visible through iLink).

SACD is Sony's chosen fomat over DVD-A, but I hear Sony may be moving away from that as well.

jb007
09-05-05, 05:50 PM
Thanks divedude. I don't think anyone here doubts you'll be back in the water. It's not a question of if, but when! My bold prediction: Before the second generation Q006!

I had read the review you posted. Quite positive. I went out and picked up the HC1 this afternoon. The battery is charging now. I'll report back how the images look up on the Q006. :)

divedude
09-05-05, 07:28 PM
Thanks divedude. I don't think anyone here doubts you'll be back in the water. It's not a question of if, but when! My bold prediction: Before the second generation Q006!

I had read the review you posted. Quite positive. I went out and picked up the HC1 this afternoon. The battery is charging now. I'll report back how the images look up on the Q006. :)

jb007,

Congratulations !! :D Can't wait to hear your take on the HC1 and how the images look on the 006. I really want to get one before my next diving trip. It has my mouth watering even more than the ribs Mini Dive has slow smoking out on the patio ;) The dimensions are smaller than my TRV900 and even slightly smaller than my TRV950, so I think it might easily fit into my existing underwater housing.

Arnies
09-05-05, 09:56 PM
The new SXRD Wega has smaller LCD panels. So the quality of the SXRD to the Q006 would not exactly be the same. I read this in Perfect Vision Magazine a few months ago

Arnie

Penton-Man
09-05-05, 10:19 PM
Wow! After a nearly two-week FQQ (Forced Qualia Quarantine) I returned home last night, switched on CSI, and proceeded to be transfixed. This set just continues to amaze me. If you look at purchases from a bang-to-the-buck ratio, my Q006 has been phenomenal. I am SO glad I bought early; even though I paid top-dollar I've gotten to use my set since early January. This set rules! Too bad Kaduku's been pretending all this time. Man, he even had me fooled!
;-)
Well I'm glad you're back. Now start bugging Algolith about the shipping dates for their Squeeter and Dragonfly.

No more vacation for you is needed this year.
Elmo lost 5 lbs. while in captivity.

Penton-Man
09-05-05, 10:21 PM
The general feeling is that it is not an encryption problem. .
jb is correct.
Encyption has nothing to do with it.

Penton-Man
09-05-05, 10:24 PM
Dammit Neo, this is your second warning (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6122567&&#post6122567)!

F.Y.I.-
As admitted on a previous post, Zechman is not a Sony engineer but, he does work in the Sony Human Resources Dept. :D

Penton-Man
09-05-05, 10:26 PM
hehe. I saw the 006 again at another local dealer last week and it looked great! It could resolve the Mosquito noise in SD digital broadcast a lot better than my CRT RPTV. I think the Algolith Mosquito would help a lot in that situation. I'm saving my pennies for an "affordable" 1080p digital FP :)
Next time someonelse flubs up on the Algolith thread, I'll make a mental note to mention it here again..............just to get you to say hello and what's new!

Now I know the proper bait to use! :D

Penton-Man
09-05-05, 10:30 PM
I really want to get one before my next diving trip. It has my mouth watering even more than the ribs Mini Dive has slow smoking out on the patio ;)
The versatility of MiniDive is truly phenomenal !

I suspect you should be on your last chemo treatment soon and be done with the poison?

jb007
09-05-05, 10:49 PM
divedude, et al.,

Shot about 5 min. worth of tape on the new Sony HC1 at the beach today and it is fantastic. I'm very pleased with the clarity and color reproduction. This camera is the perfect companion for the Q006. :) :)

Penton-Man
09-05-05, 11:14 PM
The versatility of MiniDive is truly phenomenal !

I suspect you should be on your last chemo treatment soon and be done with the poison?
On that note, since I’m in the mood for playing doctor, if you have any questions pertaining to possible future surgery (let’s hope not) :eek:

and scuba diving as a contraindication, I would suggest this fellow who is highly rated as is the institution (The Center for Hyperbaric Medicine and Environmental Physiology at Duke) itself…………

http://www.dukehealth.org/physicians/DADD9DC411E0FE9085256DFD006A9171


Shall I send my bill to MiniDive?

Penton-Man
09-05-05, 11:15 PM
divedude, et al.,
new Sony HC1 at the beach today
Oh, the life of those Qualians that live in San Diego is truly elitist. :D

jb007
09-06-05, 01:04 AM
um hmmm :D

JimP
09-06-05, 02:25 AM
The new SXRD Wega has smaller LCD panels. So the quality of the SXRD to the Q006 would not exactly be the same. I read this in Perfect Vision Magazine a few months ago

Arnie

They're not LCD panels, they're SXRD panels. Different technology. :D

kaduku
09-06-05, 11:08 AM
divedude, et al.,

Shot about 5 min. worth of tape on the new Sony HC1 at the beach today and it is fantastic. I'm very pleased with the clarity and color reproduction. This camera is the perfect companion for the Q006. :) :)

JB,
First to get the Q006, and now, at least first among us here in this thread to get the ultimate Q companion. I am also a video enthusiast and hope to get one soon, but am too busy now trying to learn my D-SLR. My PC-120BT will have to do for a little while. :)

divedude
09-06-05, 06:43 PM
The versatility of MiniDive is truly phenomenal !

I suspect you should be on your last chemo treatment soon and be done with the poison?

PM,

Mini DIve cooks up a mean rib :D I have been feeling very good lately and able to eat real food again, as evidenced by the ribs. I have another round of chemo next week, so I will be back on the softer foods then. The Docs are telling me it won't be as bad, since I am finished with the radiation. And I still have a last round a month later. We postponed this round, so I could get back on real food and get healed from the radiation. I was just glad to have a great holiday weekend. I have been walking about a mile everyday for the last 9 days and the Doc says I am doing fabulous :)

divedude
09-06-05, 07:07 PM
Shall I send my bill to MiniDive?

PM,
Thanks for the name of the deco Doc. Sure send the bill to Mini Dive . . . hold on, he just saw the word bill, grabbed my credit card and ran off :eek:

divedude
09-06-05, 07:53 PM
divedude, et al.,

Shot about 5 min. worth of tape on the new Sony HC1 at the beach today and it is fantastic. I'm very pleased with the clarity and color reproduction. This camera is the perfect companion for the Q006. :) :)

jb007,

The HC1 just went to the top of my Holiday wish list :)

SnowJock
09-06-05, 08:49 PM
Yeah, I know, you are sick of hearing about my problems with this $13,000 lightening bolt. Let me say, the Q06 is amazing and I had problems after 3 hours of use where I couldn't use the set for 5 or 6 hours, then the problem solved itself. Well after a weeks or so of use it started again. Here is what happened.
1. I was watching an upscaled 1080i DVD (Sony SA-DVD Player).
2. There was a huge 'popping' sound that sounded like 100,000 volts of electricity sparking inside the set.
3. The set shut down by itself.
4. The set turned on by itself.
5. There was sound only from the still playing DVD. No lamp light. No picture. No banner display.
6. After 3-4 minutes of green lamp flashing the picture came back up. It was slower than a warm restart. Meaning if you turned the set off and immediately back on again, it would be expected for a couplke of minute delay.
7. So ound and picture were now back on without any intervention.
8. After five minutes another huge crackling POP of what I can only describe as being like a vast amount of electricity arching between two points.
9. I turned the set off for 30 minutes!
10. Turned set back on. Been trouble free for 45 minutes so far.
Based upon this event and a similar one after 3 hours of first use. It's time the set was replaced with a braqnd new, factory sealed unit.
I nevcer experienced anything like this with the XBR950 I had.
I thought I would let you know how and when it happens in case others have the same problems.

RonB63
09-06-05, 10:11 PM
SnowJock,

Sounds like a science experiment going on in your Q. I am not a lawyer (though many here are!) but it may not hurt your cause to videotape this event (if possible). I don't remember if you bought it locally but you know that if a service person from the place of purchase comes to your house he will enjoy hours of trouble-free viewing. :rolleyes:

Penton-Man
09-06-05, 10:57 PM
Yeah, I know, you are sick of hearing about my problems with this $13,000 lightening bolt. Let me say, the Q06 is amazing and I had problems after 3 hours of use where I couldn't use the set for 5 or 6 hours, then the problem solved itself. Well after a weeks or so of use it started again. Here is what happened.
1. I was watching an upscaled 1080i DVD (Sony SA-DVD Player).
2. There was a huge 'popping' sound that sounded like 100,000 volts of electricity sparking inside the set.
3. The set shut down by itself.
4. The set turned on by itself.
5. There was sound only from the still playing DVD. No lamp light. No picture. No banner display.
6. After 3-4 minutes of green lamp flashing the picture came back up. It was slower than a warm restart. Meaning if you turned the set off and immediately back on again, it would be expected for a couplke of minute delay.
7. So ound and picture were now back on without any intervention.
8. After five minutes another huge crackling POP of what I can only describe as being like a vast amount of electricity arching between two points.
9. I turned the set off for 30 minutes!
10. Turned set back on. Been trouble free for 45 minutes so far.
Based upon this event and a similar one after 3 hours of first use. It's time the set was replaced with a braqnd new, factory sealed unit.
I nevcer experienced anything like this with the XBR950 I had.
I thought I would let you know how and when it happens in case others have the same problems.
Perfect description to e-mail to ole Bob Neeson in Ft. Meyers............time to have him pass it on up the ladder.

Penton-Man
09-06-05, 11:00 PM
PM,
Thanks for the name of the deco Doc. Sure send the bill to Mini Dive . . . hold on, he just saw the word bill, grabbed my credit card and ran off :eek:
LOL............
I don't know if you're using some trick photography here but, I was always under the assumption that MiniDive was ALOT bigger !

brt3
09-07-05, 02:26 AM
JB -- First to get the Q006, and now, at least first among us here in this thread to get the ultimate Q companion...
And I thought DiveDude was the first one to get the ultimate Q companion?!? Oh well, shame on you anyway PM -- you should be apologizing to Mini-Dive (along with Kaduku, who doesn't actually own a Qualia), as everyone knows size doesn't matter...
:D

wocasio
09-07-05, 09:41 AM
Just wanted to say hello - my 006 arrived yesterday. Of course, I love it so far.

This thread is so long already I can't possibly read it all.

Since I placed this unit in my living room, it is used for routine TV viewing as well as HD higher end stuff. I was spoiled, I guess, with the 36" direct view sony xbr that was in its place, which scaled SD signals beautifully (even crappy VHS tapes). Now that the screen is almost 4 times as big, it magnifies the imperfections of the SD signals and PQ can be a bit annoying. Any suggestions on settings to improve PQ for SD? So far I experimented and Direct Mode=on seems to have a positive effect.

Penton-Man
09-07-05, 09:52 AM
Any suggestions on settings to improve PQ for SD? So far I experimented and Direct Mode=on seems to have a positive effect.

You can get rid of the noise by tweaking the settings a tad but, then the picture becomes way too soft – I suspect the only solution will be………….

The purchase of an Algolith Mosquito (Squeeter bug) whenever the newest version becomes available.

Penton-Man
09-07-05, 09:56 AM
as everyone knows size doesn't matter...
:D
I completely agree.
It's just that previously, it seemed that MiniDive took up all of my computer screen.

I think Divedude must have used a very wide angle lense or some fish-eye thing on the last shot.

Zechman
09-07-05, 01:36 PM
I completely agree.
It's just that previously, it seemed that MiniDive took up all of my computer screen.

I think Divedude must have used a very wide angle lense or some fish-eye thing on the last shot.
Perhaps Divedude is just tall . . . ?

--Dwayne

Penton-Man
09-07-05, 03:49 PM
Excellent point Zechman !

The photo may simply be a matter of perspective.

BenDover
09-07-05, 04:07 PM
OK, here's a strange one. While watching my 006 last night, I noticed a small insect crawling on the screen - the size of a gnat or flea. I walked up to the TV to remove the bug when much to my surprise I discovered that the bug was on the INSIDE of the screen! Fortunately it crawled up to the top and out of view, not seen again...yet.

Imagine my shock! I have visions of critters building a nest on the inaccessible innards of my beloved Qualia! Unless Sony is playing pranks by having a "virtual" bug crawling on the screen, I'm a bit concerned. Because of the tiny size, it must have been on the front screen rather than on the light engine which would have magnified the bug to the size of a cockroach! I hope the darned thing got fried! I assumed the faceplate was fully sealed to prevent dust from entering, but I'm scratching my head over this one!

Guess what happened to me just the other day :eek:

Penton-Man
09-07-05, 04:36 PM
I believe that they can potentially get in via those vent holes on the back where the fan for the lamp is .

You really need a hermetically sealed room or a set of double doors encompassing a decontamination hallway to absolutely prevent this from occurring.

Zechman
09-07-05, 05:09 PM
Guess what happened to me just the other day :eek:
You snuck into colortv's place to surreptitiously put another insect inside his TV . . . ? :D

--Dwayne

divedude
09-07-05, 07:30 PM
LOL............
I don't know if you're using some trick photography here but, I was always under the assumption that MiniDive was ALOT bigger !

PM,
No trick photography, Mini Dive just looks smaller from the back side, especially when he is running away :D

divedude
09-07-05, 08:19 PM
Originally Posted by colortv
OK, here's a strange one. While watching my 006 last night, I noticed a small insect crawling on the screen - the size of a gnat or flea. I walked up to the TV to remove the bug when much to my surprise I discovered that the bug was on the INSIDE of the screen! Fortunately it crawled up to the top and out of view, not seen again...yet.

Imagine my shock! I have visions of critters building a nest on the inaccessible innards of my beloved Qualia! Unless Sony is playing pranks by having a "virtual" bug crawling on the screen, I'm a bit concerned. Because of the tiny size, it must have been on the front screen rather than on the light engine which would have magnified the bug to the size of a cockroach! I hope the darned thing got fried! I assumed the faceplate was fully sealed to prevent dust from entering, but I'm scratching my head over this one!

Guess what happened to me just the other day :eek:


BenDover,

From the description supplied by SnowJock, maybe Sony has put a new feature in the 006's, a BugZapper :rolleyes:

SnowJock,

Please let us know what they determine the problem is. My guess is a power supply. Good luck :)

SnowJock
09-07-05, 08:37 PM
Originally Posted by colortv
OK, here's a strange one. While watching my 006 last night, I noticed a small insect crawling on the screen - the size of a gnat or flea. I walked up to the TV to remove the bug when much to my surprise I discovered that the bug was on the INSIDE of the screen! Fortunately it crawled up to the top and out of view, not seen again...yet.

Imagine my shock! I have visions of critters building a nest on the inaccessible innards of my beloved Qualia! Unless Sony is playing pranks by having a "virtual" bug crawling on the screen, I'm a bit concerned. Because of the tiny size, it must have been on the front screen rather than on the light engine which would have magnified the bug to the size of a cockroach! I hope the darned thing got fried! I assumed the faceplate was fully sealed to prevent dust from entering, but I'm scratching my head over this one!




BenDover,

From the description supplied by SnowJock, maybe Sony has put a new feature in the 006's, a BugZapper :rolleyes:

SnowJock,

Please let us know what they determine the problem is. My guess is a power supply. Good luck :)


Hi Guys -
Well, it never happened again yesterday but it scares me stiff. Now if I leave the room I turn it off, just in case of fire or something. The problem is if I call a tech in, it can't be replicated at will. I wondered if it had anything to do with air conditioning? There is almost no humidity around here.
Anyway, I will let you know what happens.
Thank's for your interest.
I liked the Bug Zapper idea though!

BenDover
09-07-05, 09:13 PM
Hi Guys -
Well, it never happened again yesterday but it scares me stiff. Now if I leave the room I turn it off, just in case of fire or something. The problem is if I call a tech in, it can't be replicated at will. I wondered if it had anything to do with air conditioning? There is almost no humidity around here.
Anyway, I will let you know what happens.
Thank's for your interest.
I liked the Bug Zapper idea though!

Do you have any means for detecting/measuring voltage swings? Also, do you have any sort of line conditioners and/or UPS devices, if so what make and models of equipment?

In your case I would certainly call Sony and insist on either a new set or service/repair. Make sure you impress upon them how concerned you are that the set sounds like it will explode and/or catch fire and you would hate to see Sony have to pay for your new home and other damages. Also good to express your concern over the safety of your loved ones :)

That should motivate them!

SnowJock
09-07-05, 09:42 PM
Do you have any means for detecting/measuring voltage swings? Also, do you have any sort of line conditioners and/or UPS devices, if so what make and models of equipment?

In your case I would certainly call Sony and insist on either a new set or service/repair. Make sure you impress upon them how concerned you are that the set sounds like it will explode and/or catch fire and you would hate to see Sony have to pay for your new home and other damages. Also good to express your concern over the safety of your loved ones :)

That should motivate them!

Thank's for the reply.
I had a new (upgraded) breaker box installed a few months back by a licensed electrician and then the inspection etc. It all passed on 'wringing out the lines' and grounding etc., etc., It seemed to go on forever! I used surge protectors for all my electronic devices but without dragging the Q out I can't tell you what make it is. It's a big fat one if that helps (joking!).
I would like the set replaced. I mean, it's less than two weeks old and I truly am concerned about it causing a fire or blowing up! I will let you know what Sony says.
Thank's again.

JimP
09-08-05, 01:45 AM
Thank's for the reply.
I had a new (upgraded) breaker box installed a few months back by a licensed electrician and then the inspection etc. It all passed on 'wringing out the lines' and grounding etc., etc., It seemed to go on forever! I used surge protectors for all my electronic devices but without dragging the Q out I can't tell you what make it is. It's a big fat one if that helps (joking!).
I would like the set replaced. I mean, it's less than two weeks old and I truly am concerned about it causing a fire or blowing up! I will let you know what Sony says.
Thank's again.

Be sure to mention "fire" as many times as possible in your conversation with Sony. Apparantly, the word "fire" scares the dittly out of TV manufacturers as they don't want any kind of liability in case there actually is one.

kaduku
09-08-05, 11:13 AM
Hi Guys -
Well, it never happened again yesterday but it scares me stiff. Now if I leave the room I turn it off, just in case of fire or something. The problem is if I call a tech in, it can't be replicated at will. I wondered if it had anything to do with air conditioning? There is almost no humidity around here.
Anyway, I will let you know what happens.
Thank's for your interest.
I liked the Bug Zapper idea though!

SnowJock,
I have been following your dilemma, and unfortunately some sets will be delivered with defects. I personally would have returned it at the first sign of trouble, at the same time, I understand the agony of having to wait again for a new set. Knowing Sony, they will take care of you definitely and in a short time, this will just be a memory! :)

patdevlin
09-08-05, 12:48 PM
Is it possible to connect a pc's dvi out to the HDMI Input on the Qualia 006. I called Sony and they said that they don't support it but they know it is being done and that this is the place to find out how.

I have tried but the only thing that seems to have any success was setting the output resolution to 640x480. That gave me a picture but the qualia cutoff the lower 1/3rd of the picture. I really need a much Higher resolution.

Any Ideas?


Thanks

mpsan
09-08-05, 02:37 PM
"Fire" is so old school. You must now say "Thermal Event". That is what we say in the large Computer Business.

Just ask JOEL. :D

P.S. Where is colortv? He just ran away from us I guess.

Be sure to mention "fire" as many times as possible in your conversation with Sony. Apparantly, the word "fire" scares the dittly out of TV manufacturers as they don't want any kind of liability in case there actually is one.

BenDover
09-08-05, 04:03 PM
Is it possible to connect a pc's dvi out to the HDMI Input on the Qualia 006. I called Sony and they said that they don't support it but they know it is being done and that this is the place to find out how.

I have tried but the only thing that seems to have any success was setting the output resolution to 640x480. That gave me a picture but the qualia cutoff the lower 1/3rd of the picture. I really need a much Higher resolution.

Any Ideas?


Thanks

Yes, of course it is possible. There are people doing it, myself included. With my particular setup (ATI AIW 9800 Pro) I haven't been able to get 1080i to work correctly (all I get is a black screen) but 720p works just fine and looks very good too.

I believe success/failure is largely dependent on your computer equipment and driver support. What video card are you using, what version of the drivers, etc.

Hmmm, I don't know why but I just thought to myself maybe my problem lies in the long cable run from my computer to the Q...I'll have to experiment with that.

BenDover
09-08-05, 04:39 PM
ARRRGH! (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/detailsharmony/CA/EN,CRID=2084,CONTENTID=10930) :mad:

Penton-Man
09-08-05, 06:33 PM
I called Sony and they said that they don't support it but they know it is being done and that this is the place to find out how.

LOL-
They should be keeping their noses to the grindstone and stop lurking on this thread during lunch hour.

Penton-Man
09-08-05, 06:35 PM
P.S. Where is colortv? He just ran away from us I guess.

He bolted soon after one of those troll attacks. :eek:

JimP
09-08-05, 06:47 PM
"Fire" is so old school. You must now say "Thermal Event". That is what we say in the large Computer Business.

Just ask JOEL. :D




Thermal event?? :) Reminds of the time my monitor caught on fire, I mean, caught on thermal event. Naw, that doesn't sound right.

BenDover
09-08-05, 06:48 PM
Thermal event?? :) Reminds of the time my monitor caught on fire, I mean, caught on thermal event. Naw, that doesn't sound right.

It reminds you of the time your monitor experienced a thermal event...

R Harkness
09-08-05, 07:23 PM
Spent more time yet again watching Hi-Def on the Qualia 006 (Cold Play live etc).

What a wonderful, wonderful display. Anyone who owns one has to consider themselves lucky (if you don't, then darn it start considering yourself lucky this instant!).

Having directly compared the Qualia RPTV to the Qualia projector, I found the projector offered a somewhat more refined quality to the subtlest details. But that's only because the Qualia 004 is in an elite league for just such qualities. The 006 is in an elite league for clarity and subltetly of detail among RPTVs. You really do get the feeling you are seeing all your money's worth with an HD signal on the 006.

As good as the Qualia projector is, if you like a punchier, more tactile image I think you get it with the RPTV. It has a beautiful combination of a film-like quality and smoothness, with a more vivid punch and richness that approaches a plasma-like quality.

The only real negatives I percieve no doubt come from being a plasma owner: I find myself aware sometimes of the imperfectly even illumination on the 006, particularly to the side of the display. And it doesn't quite match the vividness and density of the best plasma images. But there are so many things about the 006 that are hard to match anywhere. Certainly no plasma currently gives as silky-smooth and resolved an image. (Excepting, perhaps, the about to be released Panasonic 1080p 65" plasma).

Anyway, I just wanted to add my enthusiasm for the 006. It's truly raised the bar and even those of us who don't own one will be better for it in the long run.

divedude
09-08-05, 07:24 PM
[QUOTE=mpsan]"Fire" is so old school. You must now say "Thermal Event". QUOTE]

mpsan,

Mini DIve says he ate a jalapeno pizza and had a "Thermal Event" the next morning :eek:

BenDover
09-08-05, 10:09 PM
Ok, who paid you for that unprompted positive review, is PM trying to recruit people again? :)

I am interested in seeing the upcoming 65in. Plasma, but it seems a little pricey:)

Zechman
09-08-05, 11:10 PM
Upon the advice of my attorney, Rich Harkness, I now consider myself lucky. :cool:

--Dwayne

Zechman
09-08-05, 11:14 PM
Mini DIve says he ate a jalapeno pizza and had a "Thermal Event" the next morning :eek:
. . . thank goodness he didn't melt in your hands. ;)

--Dwayne

brt3
09-08-05, 11:20 PM
Spent more time yet again watching Hi-Def on the Qualia 006 (Cold Play live etc)... What a wonderful, wonderful display. Anyone who owns one has to consider themselves lucky (if you don't, then darn it start considering yourself lucky this instant!).
I second that. Has anyone seen Dave Letterman in HD? I went to one of their tapings about 6 weeks back, and noticed they were already using HD cameras. Am personally VERY glad they made the HD transition as I'm not a Leno man (though I like his taste in cars and motorcycles). Anyway, CBS is doing an excellent job on this broadcast; it has a better look to me than what NBC does with Leno. Too bad colortv can't chime in on that...

Anyone else taken the plunge on a HD camcorder?

brt3
09-08-05, 11:21 PM
. . . thank goodness he didn't melt in your hands. ;)

--Dwayne
Go ahead, Penton -- knock it out of the park!

Joel
09-09-05, 03:50 PM
Just ask me? Heck, I'm just a country lawyer. "Fire" works fine for me. Although I have occasionally experienced "thermal events" the day after eating my ex-wife's chili, just like poor Mini-Dive... lol. So, you have my advice and counsel that the word fire is probably a better one to threaten TV manufacturers with -- just don't yell it in a crowded theater!

Cheers

Orkedian
09-09-05, 05:38 PM
Question? With a Samsung TS360 receiver into video 6, using DVI to HDMI, when scrolling thur the source coming back to video 6 the image is lost and the source has to be reset. Anyone have an issue similar to this?

mpsan
09-09-05, 06:56 PM
Yup, but I thought that he did come back.

Sorry to see him go.

He bolted soon after one of those troll attacks. :eek:

mpsan
09-09-05, 06:57 PM
No, it is correct. You had a thermal event with your monitor.

Thermal event?? :) Reminds of the time my monitor caught on fire, I mean, caught on thermal event. Naw, that doesn't sound right.

mpsan
09-09-05, 07:04 PM
Funny...we have new 42" and 55" Plasmas. Whenever we watch the 006, I am amazed at how much more we notice. The color seems very good as well and it is 70". We save the Q for movies and/or music because of the sound system down there as well, but are amazed that after these many months the Q still is a treat!

At this rate I will never get my free lamp!

Spent more time yet again watching Hi-Def on the Qualia 006 (Cold Play live etc).

What a wonderful, wonderful display. Anyone who owns one has to consider themselves lucky (if you don't, then darn it start considering yourself lucky this instant!).

Having directly compared the Qualia RPTV to the Qualia projector, I found the projector offered a somewhat more refined quality to the subtlest details. But that's only because the Qualia 004 is in an elite league for just such qualities. The 006 is in an elite league for clarity and subltetly of detail among RPTVs. You really do get the feeling you are seeing all your money's worth with an HD signal on the 006.

As good as the Qualia projector is, if you like a punchier, more tactile image I think you get it with the RPTV. It has a beautiful combination of a film-like quality and smoothness, with a more vivid punch and richness that approaches a plasma-like quality.

The only real negatives I percieve no doubt come from being a plasma owner: I find myself aware sometimes of the imperfectly even illumination on the 006, particularly to the side of the display. And it doesn't quite match the vividness and density of the best plasma images. But there are so many things about the 006 that are hard to match anywhere. Certainly no plasma currently gives as silky-smooth and resolved an image. (Excepting, perhaps, the about to be released Panasonic 1080p 65" plasma).

Anyway, I just wanted to add my enthusiasm for the 006. It's truly raised the bar and even those of us who don't own one will be better for it in the long run.

mpsan
09-09-05, 07:06 PM
That works! We see him still running around so it must not have been a very bad Thermal Event.



[QUOTE=mpsan]"Fire" is so old school. You must now say "Thermal Event". QUOTE]

mpsan,

Mini DIve says he ate a jalapeno pizza and had a "Thermal Event" the next morning :eek:

mpsan
09-09-05, 07:09 PM
OK, I hope we don't get billed for this. :)

P.S. Is it OK to yell "movie" in a Firehouse?

Just ask me? Heck, I'm just a country lawyer. "Fire" works fine for me. Although I have occasionally experienced "thermal events" the day after eating my ex-wife's chili, just like poor Mini-Dive... lol. So, you have my advice and counsel that the word fire is probably a better one to threaten TV manufacturers with -- just don't yell it in a crowded theater!

Cheers

Joel
09-09-05, 07:12 PM
You will all get billed .... muwahahahaaaaaa!

Yes, feel free to yell movie in a firehouse. :)

Have good weekends, all. I am looking forward to some football on my 006, I can tell you that!

Cheers

R Harkness
09-09-05, 07:32 PM
Funny...we have new 42" and 55" Plasmas. Whenever we watch the 006, I am amazed at how much more we notice. The color seems very good as well and it is 70".

Personally, I never fail to notice "more" when I view something on a larger screen. That tends to follow naturally when you see the image bigger, you percieve more information that goes unnoticed in a smaller display.

My friend has a projector that is basically the same resolution as my ED plasma and I never fail to see details on the big projected image I never noticed on my smaller plasma.

I even notice more details viewing a DVD on a 50" plasma vs a 42" plasma. Nature of the beast, I figure.

I agree, color is beautiful on the 006.

jb007
09-09-05, 07:42 PM
I stopped by the Sony Style store in San Diego (Fashion Valley Mall) today and the Q006 was on display and for sale (MSRP).

I know from time to time questions are posted on where the Q006 can be viewed; well it appears that Sony Style locations outside of New York and Las Vegas now have them on display. :)

brt3
09-09-05, 07:45 PM
Personally, I never fail to notice "more" when I view something on a larger screen. That tends to follow naturally when you see the image bigger, you percieve more information that goes unnoticed in a smaller display...
Depends on how you define "more". On my 50" plasma I see more of certain things -- macroblocking and noise -- than I do on my 70" Qualia...
:D
The main thing I get more of on my Qualia is the detail. You find yourself pausing in movies because the tiniest details (handwritten notes, newspapers, etc.) are now clearly legible. Doesn't hurt that the overall PQ is amazing to boot. Since I bought the Q006 I'd guess I've not spent two hours watching the plasma. I hope the new SXRD sets are killer, as I'd love to get the 60-incher as a plasma replacement.

R Harkness
09-09-05, 08:09 PM
Depends on how you define "more". On my 50" plasma I see more of certain things -- macroblocking and noise -- than I do on my 70" Qualia...
:D
The main thing I get more of on my Qualia is the detail. You find yourself pausing in movies because the tiniest details (handwritten notes, newspapers, etc.) are now clearly legible. Doesn't hurt that the overall PQ is amazing to boot. Since I bought the Q006 I'd guess I've not spent two hours watching the plasma. I hope the new SXRD sets are killer, as I'd love to get the 60-incher as a plasma replacement.

(Not to derail but...)

I'm assuming your 55" plasma is likely the Fujitsu or Hitachi (?) Which 50" plasma do you own? Are you the qualia owner who has the 50" fujitsu as well? (In which case, you are just evil in your decadence :) ) And if you ain't watching your plasma I'm taking donations.

Rich.

Penton-Man
09-09-05, 09:29 PM
You will all get billed .... muwahahahaaaaaa!

Yes, feel free to yell movie in a firehouse. :)

Have good weekends, all. I am looking forward to some football on my 006, I can tell you that!

Cheers

The Qualians are getting mighty ROWDY as the NFL season has begun and the new fall series are about to begin…………………

iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii luv it ! :D

BenDover
09-09-05, 10:07 PM
Seems as though one person who has been to the CEDIA 2005 show has posted his thoughts and indicated that Sony had the Q006 flanked on each side by the new 50 and 60in. GW SXRD sets and fealt that the Q was still "Queen" ...

RonB63
09-09-05, 10:22 PM
BD,

They also metioned that the 50" and especially the 60" were very close in quality to the 006 and were the best new 1080P's there. The JVC came in close behind. All the others need not apply. It sounds like these little babies would be a nice companion to the 006's out there. For you BD - maybe two new sets!

BenDover
09-09-05, 10:29 PM
BD,

They also metioned that the 50" and especially the 60" were very close in quality to the 006 and were the best new 1080P's there. The JVC came in close behind. All the others need not apply. It sounds like these little babies would be a nice companion to the 006's out there. For you BD - maybe two new sets!

Yes, he said they were VERY close and that is great news. I will get one of these babies, but maybe not right away since I'm in the middle of a few "changes" that affect my disposable income for the moment. Besides, as it is the only TV I watch any more is the Q006...my wife commented just yesterday that she doesn't see why I need the set in our den because I haven't turned it on since... :)

RonB63
09-09-05, 10:54 PM
Yes, he said they were VERY close and that is great news. I will get one of these babies, but maybe not right away since I'm in the middle of a few "changes" that affect my disposable income for the moment. Besides, as it is the only TV I watch any more is the Q006...my wife commented just yesterday that she doesn't see why I need the set in our den because I haven't turned it on since... :)

Here's to hoping that your "changes" pass quickly and painlessly and that your loving wife comes to realize that a den with a new sony is a happy den. ;)

brt3
09-10-05, 01:29 AM
(Not to derail but...) I'm assuming your 55" plasma is likely the Fujitsu or Hitachi (?) Which 50" plasma do you own? And if you ain't watching your plasma I'm taking donations. -- Rich.
No; though I wanted the Fujitsu for it's PQ my wife really liked the memory stick feature of the Sony. Have to admit these sets are fantastic for viewing pix at the proper resolution settings. And hey -- she didn't even blink when I suggested buying the Q006, so I sure can't complain. Anyway, since the Big Q arrived we do about 99% of our viewing in SXRD-Vision...

Aestis
09-10-05, 05:00 AM
We just got a qualia delivered last wednesday and we have been having a bit of trouble getting everything going perfect. During the NFL game on thursday, the picture would come in blocky and unfocused for 1-2 seconds everytime it switched to a different camera. It was very consistent and only happened in those instances, leading me to believe it is source related. We have a SA 8300 with Time Warner coming in through HDMI. It looks like the 8300 is scaling everything up to 1080i. I've been unsuccessful in finding a way to have the 8300 pass through the signal without scaling it.

Has anyone been experiencing either of these issues or know of a solution? Thanks

BenDover
09-10-05, 09:10 AM
We just got a qualia delivered last wednesday and we have been having a bit of trouble getting everything going perfect. During the NFL game on thursday, the picture would come in blocky and unfocused for 1-2 seconds everytime it switched to a different camera. It was very consistent and only happened in those instances, leading me to believe it is source related. We have a SA 8300 with Time Warner coming in through HDMI. It looks like the 8300 is scaling everything up to 1080i. I've been unsuccessful in finding a way to have the 8300 pass through the signal without scaling it.

Has anyone been experiencing either of these issues or know of a solution? Thanks

Sounds definitely like source, probably the box's own scaling.

You have to do the advanced set up on the 8300, specifying all the resolutions that the Q can handle (which are all of them). Then, you have to go into the second settings menu to enable pass through (i.e., hit settings button twice to be taken to the advanced settings screen (not sure that is the name but you get there by hitting the settings button twice; first is only a quick settings screen)). then make sure the 8300 isn't "zooming" the picture either...every now and then my kids must hit the wrong buttons on the remote and cause this to happen, making the picture noticeably off (i actually watched a whole movie one night, gremlins, thinking they just did a lousy job on the source, but in reality the 8300 was zooming the picture :))...I realized what happened the next morning when i put on one of the stations with the logo in the bottom right corner and it was nearly entirely chopped off.

umr
09-10-05, 09:48 AM
Your 8300 should be able to be in pass through mode unless it has very old software. TWC is the worst HDTV source here in Houston. They only use about 2 megabits per second. D-Theater is the best source I have available followed by OTA, Dish and then cable. The Dish 942 box does a nice job except it does not support pass through mode, but it is not difficult to switch it manually between 720p and 1080i.

Neo2005
09-10-05, 09:59 AM
UMR ... I also have a 942 when should I be switching it to 720p? Still learning here.
Thanks!
PS
Any more interested upstate NY people interested in taking advantage of your West Point time slot?

umr
09-10-05, 10:14 AM
Neo2005,

I would if you want the best PQ. The scaler in the 942 is probably not as good as the Qualia's.

I have one more. It looks like I will be going to Geneva.

Aestis
09-10-05, 02:07 PM
Your 8300 should be able to be in pass through mode unless it has very old software. TWC is the worst HDTV source here in Houston. They only use about 2 megabits per second. D-Theater is the best source I have available followed by OTA, Dish and then cable. The Dish 942 box does a nice job except it does not support pass through mode, but it is not difficult to switch it manually between 720p and 1080i.

Apparently it uses the SARA software instead of the Passport software, so I was initially looking in the wrong thread. It looks like I need to go into the advanced setup to enable the other resolutions and then change the display output setting to "Auto HDMI/DVI". The "passthrough" option in the display setting is gone when using HDMI

divedude
09-10-05, 02:25 PM
Ya'll,

Watched the new FOX show Reunion last night. It really looked great on the 006, amazing 3-D effects with the HD picture. The story line was somewhat predictable though.

Neo2005
09-10-05, 05:48 PM
UMR ... very kool ...Keep me in da loop as to when. So how do I set the 942 to 720p

Menu/ setup/HDsetup/arrows up & down/ choose 720p/16:9. Now do I do that for SD and HD or just SD ?

Neo2005
09-10-05, 06:16 PM
then again .............if the Q scaler is that good shouldn't I send it 480i from the 942 and let it take it to 1080p?