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mpsan
09-10-05, 06:20 PM
Yes as long as it is true 16:9!

You will all get billed .... muwahahahaaaaaa!

Yes, feel free to yell movie in a firehouse. :)

Have good weekends, all. I am looking forward to some football on my 006, I can tell you that!

Cheers

mpsan
09-10-05, 06:24 PM
Well, my Plasmas are HD and not ED. We got them a month or two before the 006. In fact that is what started this. We got a 42" Plasma and then did not want to watch anything else. We were not expecting the 006 to impress us after getting the 55" plasma, then the Q came in and we saw a big difference. It was bigger, of course, but the detail and color were better. Of course that requires a good signal!

Personally, I never fail to notice "more" when I view something on a larger screen. That tends to follow naturally when you see the image bigger, you percieve more information that goes unnoticed in a smaller display.

My friend has a projector that is basically the same resolution as my ED plasma and I never fail to see details on the big projected image I never noticed on my smaller plasma.

I even notice more details viewing a DVD on a 50" plasma vs a 42" plasma. Nature of the beast, I figure.

I agree, color is beautiful on the 006.

mpsan
09-10-05, 06:28 PM
In my case we got a 42" Hitachi and liked it so much we watched everything we could in the bedroom. So we bought a 55" Hitachi for the den. Then a Q for the Big theater room!

(Not to derail but...)

I'm assuming your 55" plasma is likely the Fujitsu or Hitachi (?) Which 50" plasma do you own? Are you the qualia owner who has the 50" fujitsu as well? (In which case, you are just evil in your decadence :) ) And if you ain't watching your plasma I'm taking donations.

Rich.

abarsami
09-10-05, 07:13 PM
I have a 42" GWIII and thought about upgrading to the 50" Sony, but too much SDE compared to mine.

That's when I saw the 70" Qualia for the first time and hot damn... that is the nicest picture I have ever seen on a tv. It was showing the hdtv US Open and wow.
I mean wow... I was blown away. You guys that have this tv are mighty lucky.

Out of my budget, certainly too big, but if Sony would do the right thing and release next years sxrd's with the same glossy screen and cabinet, they might have a winner. Certainly would be my next set if they did.

umr
09-10-05, 07:17 PM
then again .............if the Q scaler is that good shouldn't I send it 480i from the 942 and let it take it to 1080p?

That is what I would try if you want the best PQ.

BenDover
09-10-05, 08:00 PM
I have a 42" GWIII and thought about upgrading to the 50" Sony, but too much SDE compared to mine.

That's when I saw the 70" Qualia for the first time and hot damn... that is the nicest picture I have ever seen on a tv. It was showing the hdtv US Open and wow.
I mean wow... I was blown away. You guys that have this tv are mighty lucky.

Out of my budget, certainly too big, but if Sony would do the right thing and release next years sxrd's with the same glossy screen and cabinet, they might have a winner. Certainly would be my next set if they did.

The new GW SXRD 50 and 60in. should have no SDE, just like the Q006. You must be talking about Sony's 50in. LCD. You should check out the SXRD sets that will start shipping at the end of September.

abarsami
09-10-05, 08:21 PM
The new GW SXRD 50 and 60in. should have no SDE, just like the Q006. You must be talking about Sony's 50in. LCD. You should check out the SXRD sets that will start shipping at the end of September.

Those have no glossy screens and way to wide with the speakers. Poor cabinet design.

Rubenfl
09-10-05, 10:56 PM
I've been lurking on this thread for some time. I'm receiving my Qualia 006 on Monday and I'm obviously excited!! However, I have some questions regarding the scaling issues that I've read here. I have the Directv HD Tivo unit. Should I set it to 1080i or should I set it lower. Also, I'm thinking of buying an upconverting DVD player but I've seen posts here that I should leave the upscaling to the 006. Would it not make more sense to get a good upconvering DVD player (like the new Sony ES) which would send a 1080i signal and let the 006 double it to 1080p?

Anyways, I feel like a little kid on the night before Christmas waiting for the delivery of this ginormous unit. All of your input, advice and opinons led me to take the plunge. I'm sure I won't have any regrets. Thanks,

Ruben.
Miami, Florida

jb007
09-10-05, 11:58 PM
Rubenfl, welcome to Q006 ownership.

I utilize an HR10-250 and have always had it set to 1080i, which works beautifully. As for the DVD player, with Blu-Ray and HD-DVD right around the corner, why spend extra $ on an expensive DVD player at this time?

Rubenfl
09-11-05, 02:18 AM
Rubenfl, welcome to Q006 ownership.

I utilize an HR10-250 and have always had it set to 1080i, which works beautifully. As for the DVD player, with Blu-Ray and HD-DVD right around the corner, why spend extra $ on an expensive DVD player at this time?


That's the D*Tv unit I have. Hopefully the HDMI connector won't go bad for a while (like it has in the past on both my units).

As far as the DVD, that makes sense. Thanks for the advice.

BenDover
09-11-05, 08:23 AM
Those have no glossy screens and way to wide with the speakers. Poor cabinet design.

When the screen is glossy you get people bitching that the screen is glossy...when the screen is matte you get people bitching that the screen is matte...lol

dpc123
09-11-05, 11:07 AM
Since the 006 is considered the king of the Sony SXRD line in RP sets, does anyone think that it will see upgrades in the shape of 1080p inputs, dynamic iris and other features the 50/60 SXRD sets have (minus the 1080p inputs as they don't have that either)? Especially since Sony did over an upgrade for the 004 FP. I'd be grateful if someone at CEDIA could ask these questions. I'm also curious about the quote in the SXRD thread that Sony is going to re-evaluate the 006 pricing in November.

divedude
09-11-05, 12:00 PM
That's the D*Tv unit I have. Hopefully the HDMI connector won't go bad for a while (like it has in the past on both my units).

As far as the DVD, that makes sense. Thanks for the advice.

Rubenfl,

Welcome and congratulations :D I leave my HD Tivo on 1080i and have wonderful pictures. I have not have a problem with the HDMI connection. I love my HD Tivo almost as much as my 006.

jb007
09-11-05, 12:30 PM
Since the 006 is considered the king of the Sony SXRD line in RP sets, does anyone think that it will see upgrades in the shape of 1080p inputs, dynamic iris and other features the 50/60 SXRD sets have (minus the 1080p inputs as they don't have that either)? Especially since Sony did over an upgrade for the 004 FP. I'd be grateful if someone at CEDIA could ask these questions. I'm also curious about the quote in the SXRD thread that Sony is going to re-evaluate the 006 pricing in November.

On just about everything Sony manufactures, they seem to come out with new *updated* models on a regular basis (TVs, Digital Cameras, Receivers, etc.); although I don't recall there ever being a *new* SVHS model to replace the SLVR 1000, which has been discontinued.

So, it stands to reason, a second generation Q006.5 (?) may have the upgrades of 1080p inputs, dynamic iris, etc. But that is speculation and I doubt anyone from Sony would share that information in advance.

As for the price -- we already know retailers other than Sony have *discounted* the Q006 to its originally stated MSRP. Come November, it will have been 11 months since the Q006 was released, and Sony will have the 50" and 60" SXRD models for sale, as well as competitors out on the market with 1080p sets. I would not be surprised if there was a price drop, come Christmas shopping season.

With that being said, the *premium* price I paid to enjoy the Q006 these last 9 months has been well worth it to me. :)

kaduku
09-11-05, 12:31 PM
Would it not make more sense to get a good upconvering DVD player (like the new Sony ES) which would send a 1080i signal and let the 006 double it to 1080p?



I would also wait for the upcoming Blu-Ray units, since it is really just around the corner. Now if you really have money up your ying yang like some guys here (not me), then I would go for it! Recommendations are Denon 3910, 5910 or Pioneer 59avi.

mpsan
09-11-05, 04:43 PM
jb, I believe the SLVR1000 was the updated machine. I still have two SLV R-5's and no machine ever matched their picture. I can not keep them running with PS issues, etc so they are not even plugged in. In fact, I have 3 other SVHS decks that work well, but are not even plugged it. I should eBay them but don't.

I think Sony brings out a great machine in a certain field, like a VHS machine, and later models just don't keep up.



On just about everything Sony manufactures, they seem to come out with new *updated* models on a regular basis (TVs, Digital Cameras, Receivers, etc.); although I don't recall there ever being a *new* SVHS model to replace the SLVR 1000, which has been discontinued.

So, it stands to reason, a second generation Q006.5 (?) may have the upgrades of 1080p inputs, dynamic iris, etc. But that is speculation and I doubt anyone from Sony would share that information in advance.

As for the price -- we already know retailers other than Sony have *discounted* the Q006 to its originally stated MSRP. Come November, it will have been 11 months since the Q006 was released, and Sony will have the 50" and 60" SXRD models for sale, as well as competitors out on the market with 1080p sets. I would not be surprised if there was a price drop, come Christmas shopping season.

With that being said, the *premium* price I paid to enjoy the Q006 these last 9 months has been well worth it to me. :)

brt3
09-11-05, 04:57 PM
I would also wait for the upcoming Blu-Ray units, since it is really just around the corner. Now if you really have money up your ying yang like some guys here (not me), then I would go for it! Recommendations are Denon 3910, 5910 or Pioneer 59avi.
The Pioneer -- which I own and love -- is being replaced by the 79AVi. You might find some really great deals on the 59AVi over the next 2-3 months...

Penton-Man
09-11-05, 05:05 PM
Link to a Link for pretty boxes in silver/grey.............
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6166715&&#post6166715

Rubenfl
09-11-05, 07:17 PM
I'm not Bill Gates but I figure I can afford the Sony DVP-NS90V which retails for $200. I can't wait to see how Blu-Ray will look on the 006.

Thanks for all the feedback.

Rubenfl
09-11-05, 07:23 PM
The Algolith boxes look incredible. On a similar note, has anybody heard whether the new Belkin RazorVision HDMI cables are the real deal or just snake oil.

Penton-Man
09-11-05, 08:21 PM
The Algolith boxes look incredible. On a similar note, has anybody heard whether the new Belkin RazorVision HDMI cables are the real deal or just snake oil.
If you or anyone else is considering mating the Sony DVP-NS90V with the Algolith Dragonfly................ the NS90V - does NOT do 480i over HDMI.

BenDover
09-11-05, 08:54 PM
Note to self, do not invite friends over to view the Q006 for the very first time and watch opening day football games in HD glory...they were only supposed to come over to see the 1pm game (Jets here in NY), stayed to watch the Giants game and the US Open (ultimately put the set in Twin View to keep an eye on Agasi giving his all!) and are still here watching the 8pm game on ESPN (Colts). They are already making plans to be here next Sunday, and the one after that, and...you get the picture. I was kind enough to say next Sunday would be no problem, but the one after that I would not be home...they promptly asked for the code to the garage door openers :D

gazelle
09-11-05, 08:56 PM
Note to self, do not invite friends over to view the Q006 for the very first time and watch opening day football games in HD glory...they were only supposed to come over to see the 1pm game (Jets here in NY), stayed to watch the Giants game and the US Open (ultimately put the set in Twin View to keep an eye on Agasi giving his all!) and are still here watching the 8pm game on ESPN (Colts). They are already making plans to be here next Sunday, and the one after that, and...you get the picture. I was kind enough to say next Sunday would be no problem, but the one after that I would not be home...they promptly asked for the code to the garage door openers :D



LMAO!! :D

Penton-Man
09-11-05, 10:23 PM
and are still here watching the 8pm game on ESPN (Colts).
Do you know that when Indy (actually Robert Irsay) stole the Colts from Baltimore, I was but a wee young lad and an avid BALTIMORE Colts football fan.

(In fact, I did a football camp on the Eastern shore and Johnny U. himself threw a pass to me. :D)

After the Colts left and the Irsays took the name, the colors, the logos - EVERYTHING from the Baltimore fans in Mayflower moving vans in the middle of the night (to avoid detection), Baltimore football fans went into a deep state of depression and the hearts of wee young lads as myself were broken even before they had begun dating the opposite sex.

Johnny U. even asked to have all his records expunged from the Colts books because he said he didn't want them associated with the "Indianapolis" Colts.

If I can live to see the day that BALTIMORE beats the Indy Colts in Baltimore.........
they can put me in the grave the next day.............for I will be a happy man after watching THAT on my 006 in Hi-Def on ESPN HD.

PENTON
( A former BALTIMORE Colts football fan)

And I don't want to hear any whining from Clevleand fans!
Your uniforms, colors, logos and name were not stolen as were ours in the early 70's.

Back to the game. I'm hopeful but realistic when playing against Peyton M.

kaduku
09-11-05, 10:49 PM
The US Open looked fantastic on the Q. CBS did a great job! The colors, especially the blues on the court and on the players shirts were so vibrant. Too bad Agassi lost, though he gave us a good show.

Penton-Man
09-11-05, 11:04 PM
I'm hopeful but realistic when playing against Peyton M.
Can't watch anymore...........just too painful.

Srgtfury
09-12-05, 01:04 AM
Do you know that when Indy (actually Robert Irsay) stole the Colts from Baltimore, I was but a wee young lad and an avid BALTIMORE Colts football fan.

(In fact, I did a football camp on the Eastern shore and Johnny U. himself threw a pass to me. :D)

After the Colts left and the Irsays took the name, the colors, the logos - EVERYTHING from the Baltimore fans in Mayflower moving vans in the middle of the night (to avoid detection), Baltimore football fans went into a deep state of depression and the hearts of wee young lads as myself were broken even before they had begun dating the opposite sex.

Johnny U. even asked to have all his records expunged from the Colts books because he said he didn't want them associated with the "Indianapolis" Colts.

If I can live to see the day that BALTIMORE beats the Indy Colts in Baltimore.........
they can put me in the grave the next day.............for I will be a happy man after watching THAT on my 006 in Hi-Def on ESPN HD.

PENTON
( A former BALTIMORE Colts football fan)

And I don't want to hear any whining from Clevleand fans!
Your uniforms, colors, logos and name were not stolen as were ours in the early 70's.

Back to the game. I'm hopeful but realistic when playing against Peyton M.

Me, I'm only sad they took so long to leave...Giff made that 1st down. Ameche would never have had the chance to foul my beloved Giants.

Thank you very much

Fury

Penton-Man
09-12-05, 10:14 AM
Me, I'm only sad they took so long to leave...Giff made that 1st down. Ameche would never have had the chance to foul my beloved Giants.

Thank you very much

Fury
LOL, :D :) :D

Yup, those were the good ole days when the NFL didn’t stand for the National Felon League and player’s salaries were actually commensurate with their God-given inherent abilities.

Neo2005
09-12-05, 01:16 PM
You mean ..... just like MLB is today.

Quote" "Yup, those were the good ole days when the NFL didn’t stand for the National Felon League and player’s salaries were actually commensurate with their God-given inherent abilities."

divedude
09-12-05, 06:30 PM
Note to self, do not invite friends over to view the Q006 for the very first time and watch opening day football games in HD glory...they were only supposed to come over to see the 1pm game (Jets here in NY), stayed to watch the Giants game and the US Open (ultimately put the set in Twin View to keep an eye on Agasi giving his all!) and are still here watching the 8pm game on ESPN (Colts). They are already making plans to be here next Sunday, and the one after that, and...you get the picture. I was kind enough to say next Sunday would be no problem, but the one after that I would not be home...they promptly asked for the code to the garage door openers :D

BenDover,

Kind of like being the first to put a backyard pool in the neighborhood ;)

mpsan
09-12-05, 07:18 PM
Isn't anyone going to comment on the 9'ers unbeaten season so far?

Didn't see it on TV, however. I get to see all the Seahawks games now...now I just wish I knew what the heck a Seahawk was!

Penton-Man
09-12-05, 07:23 PM
It's a helicopter used by the Navy and Coast Guard.

Penton-Man
09-12-05, 07:24 PM
BenDover,
Master Debator wants to know if you have a preorder in for the Algolith bug combo?

And in regards to that, are there any other Qualians out there that already have the bug combo ordered that haven’t mentioned it (other than Elmo’s master) on this thread?

divedude
09-12-05, 07:28 PM
Isn't anyone going to comment on the 9'ers unbeaten season so far?

I can't hold off any longer "How 'bout them Cowboys?"

jb007
09-12-05, 08:05 PM
I can't hold off any longer "How 'bout them Cowboys?"

lucky :mad:

Penton-Man
09-12-05, 08:11 PM
I can't hold off any longer "How 'bout them Cowboys?"
Here's hoping that next Monday night is a true Cowboys-Redskins classic. :)

Penton-Man
09-12-05, 08:12 PM
And in regards to that

I believe that Algolith is shipping out digital Mosquito bugs NOW - if you dealt directly with them.

Correction on the above......
Apparently that was NOT the digital Mosquitos that can be had for right now, but they still have in stock and can ship the old version immediately.

BenDover
09-12-05, 08:21 PM
BenDover,
Master Debator wants to know if you have a preorder in for the Algolith bug combo?

And in regards to that, are there any other Qualians out there that already have the bug combo ordered that havent mentioned it (other than Elmos master) on this thread?

My, my, you are quite the cunning linguist!

I am sad to say that I couldn't justify the expense of the bugs at this time. I expect to live vicariously through brt3 :)

BenDover
09-12-05, 08:34 PM
I can't hold off any longer "How 'bout them Cowboys?"

Hmmm, was it the squeak of my neighbor's dlp color wheel that I heard yesterday or the cowboys winning that game? :eek:

brt3
09-13-05, 12:06 AM
Link to a Link for pretty boxes in silver/grey.............
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6166715&&#post6166715
Buuuuhhhhhhhzzzzzzzzz!

hifi59
09-13-05, 03:36 PM
hey guys. i just want to share some info with you. as the months go by, it's interesting to see if the q006 honeymoon is ending or is it as strong as ever. As some might remember, i had my Q calibrated by isf founder,joel silver months ago. so far,so good. the only change i've made to his settings is bringing the contrast down from 61 to 55. picture looks great. in the following months, i have actually done 2 things to make a great picture even better. 1st thing i did was to switch from direct tv to dish. i immediately noticed a brighter,warmer,smoother image with dish hd. i had the sony hd300 with dtv which i determined was the best dtv receiver ever made having owned almost every HD model (never saw the hd250-10 in action though) I now have the dish 942 hd pvr receiver. image is clearly superior . it's been 2 months since i changed to dish and i continue to be amazed at its hd images (i also get the Voom pkg with it,superb). Very happy with Dish.
The other thing i have done recently is add the "Quantum Symphony Pro" EMF conditioner.(in addition to the fantastic richard gray pwer company conditioner 400s) . The Quantum corrects the chaotic,random behavior of small electrical signals. just plug it in a wall socket near your Q006 and watch it's magic.Translation...the picture (and audio) are noticeably improved. the Quantum and the RGPC box work beautifully together. My HD images now are even more noise free,rock solid,crisp and clear. i am not exagerating! i would say a solid 5% increase over what i already had! i didn't think the picture could be improved beyond the rgpc box. but this 500.00 Quantum did it. i am not a big believer in most of these gadgets, but this thing works and works very well. Anyway, thats my update on the Q006. the honeymoon is still on. thanks.

hifi59
09-13-05, 03:57 PM
Heres a sample review......After adding in my Symphony Pro, separate of the immediate audio boost, I initially noticed a quick and noticeable improvement in depth of field on the Sony Qualia, giving the overall appearance a much more film-like and three- dimensional view. The Symphony Pro was able to squeeze out some impressive room for improvement where I did not think there was any need.
It does accomplish an increase in PERCEIVED black level.
All Fixed Pixel Displays suffer from background noise. On plasmas, “phosphor bounce,” which create the image, cause an “echo” or noise which can be seen directly on the background of most images. The Pro immediately crushes this noise, and even on my Qualia, was able to reduce the line added noise that plagues all HDTVs. This is a great benefit, as your eye can focus on the image instead of its artifacts! We tried the Symphony Pro on our Sony Grand WEGA 50” LCD, and the results were more impressive. LCDs are notoriously noisy, and also are plagued with cheap power supplies. The Symphony Pro pulled out all background noise, and reduced the hum from the WEGA’s power supply.
Quite impressive indeed. A dramatic improvement from the first incantation…
- Josh Lehman, ISF/HAA certified, DigitalAudioVideo.com, July 2004

rockbottom16
09-13-05, 06:37 PM
hey guys. i just want to share some info with you. as the months go by, it's interesting to see if the q006 honeymoon is ending or is it as strong as ever. As some might remember, i had my Q calibrated by isf founder,joel silver months ago. so far,so good. the only change i've made to his settings is bringing the contrast down from 61 to 55. picture looks great. in the following months, i have actually done 2 things to make a great picture even better. 1st thing i did was to switch from direct tv to dish. i immediately noticed a brighter,warmer,smoother image with dish hd. i had the sony hd300 with dtv which i determined was the best dtv receiver ever made having owned almost every HD model (never saw the hd250-10 in action though) I now have the dish 942 hd pvr receiver. image is clearly superior . it's been 2 months since i changed to dish and i continue to be amazed at its hd images (i also get the Voom pkg with it,superb). Very happy with Dish.
The other thing i have done recently is add the "Quantum Symphony Pro" EMF conditioner.(in addition to the fantastic richard gray pwer company conditioner 400s) . The Quantum corrects the chaotic,random behavior of small electrical signals. just plug it in a wall socket near your Q006 and watch it's magic.Translation...the picture (and audio) are noticeably improved. the Quantum and the RGPC box work beautifully together. My HD images now are even more noise free,rock solid,crisp and clear. i am not exagerating! i would say a solid 5% increase over what i already had! i didn't think the picture could be improved beyond the rgpc box. but this 500.00 Quantum did it. i am not a big believer in most of these gadgets, but this thing works and works very well. Anyway, thats my update on the Q006. the honeymoon is still on. thanks.
MODESTY is definitely not in your vocabulary ;)

JimP
09-13-05, 06:42 PM
.........but marketing is. :)

hifi59
09-13-05, 08:47 PM
MODESTY is definitely not in your vocabulary ;)

what are you talking about? modesty? i am simply sharing my experiences with the Q006 as time goes by,as i add and experiment with other pieces that perhaps will further enhance my qualia experience. am i excited with the equipment i purchased? yes,very much so.i have been an audio/videophile for 20 yrs. all i did was research some equipment,bought what sounded promising and reported the results here to fellow qualians. this is not to boast how great my system is. i know what i have and thats all that matters. i chose to share this info with others so they can look into themselves. i had my set calibrated too. i let it be known the results of that calibration. for those who pm me, i've given them the calibration numbers saving them the 350.00 if they choose to use them numbers.

hifi59
09-13-05, 08:54 PM
.........but marketing is. :)

i have ZERO ties or interests in any companies product i purchased.i never heard of many of them until recently thru lots of research. if i sound excited about a product i bought, thats because it works as claimed and i am sharing it with others. can't force anyone to eat green eggs and ham.

Penton-Man
09-13-05, 08:57 PM
MODESTY is definitely not in your vocabulary ;)
But enthusiasm is !

Good job, hifi59.

I imagine one could get one of these Quantum things for less than $500……..no ?

Penton-Man
09-13-05, 09:00 PM
Plus that,
You're one of the few that even knows who Joel Silver is. :)

Relax, you don't have to explain your motives to me. :)

hifi59
09-13-05, 09:05 PM
But enthusiasm is !

Good job, hifi59.

I imagine one could get one of these Quantum things for less than $500……..no ?

thanks P-M . actually the unit was 600. appearantly they recently dropped it to 500

rockbottom16
09-14-05, 03:05 AM
just in case anyone forgot to praise me, allow me to reiliterate. i gave my spanking new lexus a tune up by F1 legend michael shumacher. as i was cruising down pacific coast highway and buidling up a champion's thirst, i tried something diffrent this time. instead of my usual arrowhead bottle water i decided to switch to Evian. Wow what a world of difference this made in my performance. the evian bottle water i felt had a cooler, crispier texture that drenched my thirst like never before. trust me i've been all over the world and have tried every bottle water under the sky so i know what im talking about. ever since using evian i've been just amazed how much longer and faster i cut in and out of traffic, eluded highway patrol officers and picked up hot women.

JimP
09-14-05, 03:09 AM
rockbottom 16

Very funny. :)

Did it also make your car run faster??

hifi59
09-14-05, 09:18 AM
.i gave my spanking new lexus a tune up by F1 legend michael schumacher

you really should post this info on the lexus thread. are you going to share the info with other lexus owners on the results of this special tuneup?

hifi59
09-14-05, 09:30 AM
instead of my usual arrowhead bottle water i decided to switch to Evian. .

i don't recall telling anyone to switch from one product to another. i did state my experience with the performance of A product i researched and purchased. i did state going from one service to another. the HD images from dish network looks better to ME in my home than did dtv. THATS A FACT! whether due to the receivers or the service,i don't know.just stating the results. if this helps those on the fence whether to buy such a product or were thinking of switching services then so be it. i am only SHARING info. we are all here to share and enhance our Qualia experiences. you can't see that? did i go wrong somewhere? what is your problem? your very mature RockButtom16 Senior Member!

hifi59
09-14-05, 09:56 AM
rockbottom 16

Very funny. :)

Did it also make your car run faster??

Good boy jimP, Good boy! were you humping Rockbuttom's leg as you were posting this?

Penton-Man
09-14-05, 10:16 AM
what is your problem?
Ah, dear hi-fi it all stems from the fact that he assumes Michael S. does tune-ups. :eek:

Personally, I would use Guy Tourigny from Monterey and leave the driving on PCH to the soccer Moms.

Just let it roll off your back like a duck.

Neo2005
09-14-05, 12:11 PM
Now I think that a unlimited mfg. series is what F1 "should be all about"...but thats show biz. :D

Quote: statement from the FIA:

The FIA Formula One World Championship has always relied on independent teams. Its rules must allow them to survive and prosper. If major manufacturers wish to participate (and at least three are expected in 2008), so much the better. However the duty of the FIA is clear: it must ensure that the Formula One World Championship continues with a mixture of independent teams and manufacturers, all competing on an equal footing in the traditional way.

“If some of the manufacturers wish to run a private series with unlimited expenditure, the FIA will give them every assistance. It would be an interesting experiment, but too risky for the Formula One World Championship. Costs would almost certainly rise above even current Formula One levels and all teams would require full manufacturer support. Such support is unlikely to continue indefinitely.

kaduku
09-14-05, 12:28 PM
just in case anyone forgot to praise me, allow me to reiliterate. i gave my spanking new lexus a tune up by F1 legend michael shumacher. as i was cruising down pacific coast highway and buidling up a champion's thirst, i tried something diffrent this time. instead of my usual arrowhead bottle water i decided to switch to Evian. Wow what a world of difference this made in my performance. the evian bottle water i felt had a cooler, crispier texture that drenched my thirst like never before. trust me i've been all over the world and have tried every bottle water under the sky so i know what im talking about. ever since using evian i've been just amazed how much longer and faster i cut in and out of traffic, eluded highway patrol officers and picked up hot women.

Just wondering, do you own a Q006? Or at least plan to buy one!

brt3
09-14-05, 01:01 PM
Now I think that a unlimited mfg. series is what F1 "should be all about"...but thats show biz.
I've always thought that way too, but recent events have me unsure. Indianapolis, for one. Bernie being in bed with Ferrari, for two. I want an intelligently constructed and stable set of Formula rules. I would like to see technology unlimited in certain areas, but restricted in others. I'd like to see all driver aids abolished. Make them shift their own gears or, more importantly, function as their own traction control systems. Can you imagine Spa without electronic traction control? :D Without these aids it actually becomes a championship to choose the best driver in the world.

Back in Qualia Land -- has anyone yet gotten a peek at the baby SXRD sets? Am also hoping my Algolith Dragonfly will stop it's metamorphosis and emerge, fully formed, at my front doorstep...

brt3
09-14-05, 01:03 PM
Just wondering, do you own a Q006? Or at least plan to buy one!No, kaduku -- he's just pretending like you!
;)

brt3
09-14-05, 01:21 PM
Ah, dear hi-fi it all stems from the fact that he assumes Michael S. does tune-ups. :eek:Suddenly we jump 25 years into the future...

Cut to German Television. A much older, quite doughy MS, shouting red-faced into the microphone, "Willkommen to Michael's Motors! Vee tune your cah, vee fix your mufflers, und vee do tranmizzions alzoh! Und, dis veek only, ask about our "World-Championship Tuneup" spayshulz..."

dropper
09-14-05, 02:50 PM
D
And I don't want to hear any whining from Clevleand fans!
Your uniforms, colors, logos and name were not stolen as were ours in the early 70's.

Isn't that because the City of Cleaveland sued to retain custody of those things?

Keith H.

PS: Yeah, and I have lived an hour south of Cleaveland, then Houston, then the L.A. area. Can't seem to keep a football team nearby. I love Sunday Ticket. Now I am moving to Austin, so in a way, a football team is moving nearby (San Antonio with the Saints, temporarily).

Penton-Man
09-14-05, 03:56 PM
Yeah, and I have lived an hour south of Cleaveland, then Houston, then the L.A. area.

LOL – Keith that is indeed sad. Next thing you’ll tell me is that the fire in Chino Hills State Park jumped over Carbon Canyon road and consumed your house – which is why you’re moving to Austin. :)

I *think* the problem with the Baltimore situation was that the Colts had already fled the Corral before any maneuvering could take place but, I’m not sure as that was a long time ago and I was a wee young lad.

Penton-Man
09-14-05, 04:00 PM
Suddenly we jump 25 years into the future...

Cut to German Television. A much older, quite doughy MS, shouting red-faced into the microphone, "Willkommen to Michael's Motors! Vee tune your cah, vee fix your mufflers, und vee do tranmizzions alzoh! Und, dis veek only, ask about our "World-Championship Tuneup" spayshulz..."

I knew some F1 analogy would get you back to posting on this thread. :D

Question.................... Ray -----

It appears that Algolith will have the Mosquito ready to ship in Oct. while they won’t have the Dragonfly ready to go out until November - at least that's what they say.

I would still like to see you evaluate them separately with the 006 so, do you know if you will be getting the Mosquito first ? or are they sending both to you at the same time?

Also, if you are not happy with either unit, is there a return policy?

SnowJock
09-14-05, 04:16 PM
the sage ended for me...
Sorry it took so long to update you on the Q bug zapper.
The day after it happened, the set was removed from the house and replaced with a factory sealed new unit. I was amazed at the difference in PQ.
If you recall, the zapping incident after the first 2-3 hours of use. After that first event I noticed that the set was pushing green so I had to use Pro mode and reduce gain and bias to compensate. In the end it got so bad that on some content the green bias and gain was all the way off and others were increased to compensate for the green.
So as for Sony and for Qualia my sincere thanks and appreciation for a truly remarkable set and for outstanding customer service! The new set has no green push, it has not developed any either and there are no signs of restarts and bug zapping.
My thanks to all of you for your support and advice on the problem experienced and advice you gave. It goes to show you that being a Q owner makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside. Thanks again guys.

brt3
09-14-05, 04:26 PM
I knew some F1 analogy would get you back to posting on this thread. :D
I would still like to see you evaluate them separately with the 006 so, do you know if you will be getting the Mosquito first ? or are they sending both to you at the same time? Also, if you are not happy with either unit, is there a return policy?
HAH! Clever ploy, PM -- am I that transparent? It has taken me awhile to get my post-travel groove back; almost through the enormous pile of paperwork that accumulated during my absence...

I have been hearing the same due dates you describe for the Algolith Bugs; just getting antsy! ;)

I still anticipate getting the Mosquito first. I held off taking a Mosquito and trading it down the road for a HDMI Mosquito. I would expect to install the Mosquito before the Dragonfly, with enough time in-between to properly evaluate each unit. Hmmm, return policy -- good question! (sound of dial tone, followed by dialing...)

BenDover
09-14-05, 04:35 PM
the sage ended for me...
Sorry it took so long to update you on the Q bug zapper.
The day after it happened, the set was removed from the house and replaced with a factory sealed new unit. I was amazed at the difference in PQ.
If you recall, the zapping incident after the first 2-3 hours of use. After that first event I noticed that the set was pushing green so I had to use Pro mode and reduce gain and bias to compensate. In the end it got so bad that on some content the green bias and gain was all the way off and others were increased to compensate for the green.
So as for Sony and for Qualia my sincere thanks and appreciation for a truly remarkable set and for outstanding customer service! The new set has no green push, it has not developed any either and there are no signs of restarts and bug zapping.
My thanks to all of you for your support and advice on the problem experienced and advice you gave. It goes to show you that being a Q owner makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside. Thanks again guys.

Congratulations on the outcome. Nice to see the quick response and that they simply gave you a brand new unit! Did they speculate as to the problem?

Penton-Man
09-14-05, 04:41 PM
My thanks to all of you for your support and advice on the problem experienced and advice you gave. It goes to show you that being a Q owner makes you feel warm and fuzzy inside. Thanks again guys.
I'm happy for you SnowJock.

Let your previous set hither to be known as "The Rice Krispies Unit."

Penton-Man
09-14-05, 04:50 PM
I would expect to install the Mosquito before the Dragonfly, with enough time in-between to properly evaluate each unit. Hmmm, return policy -- good question! (sound of dial tone, followed by dialing...)
Plus I would like to know what EXACTLY the Digital Mosquito does with analog channels, SD digital and HD digital.

I’m actually most interested in SD digital changes – which I assume wouldn’t be too difficult for you to evaluate as I suspect you have your 006 locked into the Speed Channel with some vise like menu grip.

Oh, Ray, do you have cable or satellite ?

Then when you get all the above sorted out, see what happens when you pass your Pio 59avi 480i signal thru it and onto the Qualia.

For me, and I suspect for others, this is of secondary importance (unless one has a LARGE dvd library and Hi-Def discs take a looooooooooong time to make their appearance) since the Blu-ray machine itself is just around the bend.

P.S. "EXACTLY" is defined as a brt grading scale of choice but something
analogous to
1. Slight improvement that I can see if I look real hard and I haven’t had anything to drink that evening – and I keep trying to convince myself of as to not allow any buyer’s remorse.

2. Moderate improvement that even Mrs. Brt and Elmo noticed once I had things running thru the squeeter bug. F1 friends now refuse to leave my home.

3. Marked, Knock Your Socks Off improvement that I wish I was enjoying long ago.

Neo2005
09-14-05, 05:28 PM
Quote:Slight improvement that I can see if I look real hard { and I haven’t had anything to drink that evening } – and I keep trying to convince myself of as to not allow any buyer’s remorse.

Sooooooooooooo just how early in the evening would that have to be?

Penton-Man
09-14-05, 05:34 PM
Ray re. the Mosquito - Dragonfly combo hook-up.........

P.S. Part Deux -
You will most likely need a receiver with lip-sync delay.

If you don’t already own one (I can’t remember what you’ve got), I have a work-around solution that is a hidden pearl for those that suffer from that dilemma.

mpsan
09-14-05, 07:25 PM
Back in April I asked if anyone here uses JP1 remotes and had the Codes for the Q.

Since it has been a while, I thought I would ask again...so, anyone know if there is a Q006 file anywhere, or codes that may work?

Just asking in case anyone here actually owns a Q :D

TIA

Penton-Man
09-14-05, 10:22 PM
Cut to German Television. A much older, quite doughy MS, shouting Und, dis veek only, ask about our "World-Championship Tuneup" spayshulz..."

Meeekell ---Vuts vith vure "World-Championship Tuneup" spayshulz..." ?

I hope less zan 50 Euros.

brt3
09-15-05, 12:58 AM
Plus I would like to know what EXACTLY the Digital Mosquito does with analog channels, SD digital and HD digital. I’m actually most interested in SD digital changes – which I assume wouldn’t be too difficult for you to evaluate as I suspect you have your 006 locked into the Speed Channel with some vise like menu grip. Oh, Ray, do you have cable or satellite ?

Then when you get all the above sorted out, see what happens when you pass your Pio 59avi 480i signal thru it and onto the Qualia.

For me, and I suspect for others, this is of secondary importance (unless one has a LARGE dvd library and Hi-Def discs take a looooooooooong time to make their appearance) since the Blu-ray machine itself is just around the bend.

P.S. "EXACTLY" is defined as a brt grading scale of choice but something
analogous to:
1. Slight improvement that I can see if I look real hard and I haven’t had anything to drink that evening – and I keep trying to convince myself of as to not allow any buyer’s remorse.
2. Moderate improvement that even Mrs. Brt and Elmo noticed once I had things running thru the squeeter bug. F1 friends now refuse to leave my home.
3. Marked, Knock Your Socks Off improvement...
PM -- That's pretty much part of my evil scheme. I am dying to see what the Mosquito does with my Comcast cable, which used to be awful but has actually improved noticeably. Everyone on avsforum thought I was nuts, as I liked my D*TV image a LOT better than the Comcast. I think the cable dudes have done something to improve signal strength, or are using less compression; SpeedVision (in particular) is vastly improved, with far less macroblocking than before. Still, though, in dire need of Skeeterization, methinks. I think the real test will be to see if Elmo tries to attack my Q006 whenever there's a deer, bunny, or squirrel on the screen -- that should mean the Dragonfly/Mosquito combo is adding that extra layer of realism...

About lip-synch -- OK, guess it's time for me to come clean. I actually listen to my video system over... (gulp! squirm! sweat!)... THE QUALIA'S SPEAKERS!!!??? :eek: :mad: :eek: Very sad but very true. Although I have a full 7.1 channels of Meridian Digital Theater there was no way to fit this all into our bedroom, where we enjoy our Qualia (among other things). My goal will be to get my older Meridian preamp driving three Meridian Digital Speakers in Trifield mode, which sounds pretty fantastic. I have been overwhelmed these days; so many projects and so little time. Unfortunately, I don't multi-task well...

Finally, zee "MS Wurlt-Champ-ee-un-sheep Tune-up" vill be (Euro) 49.99 solo, ohr 99.99 venn kombeint mit zee "Nurburgring Veel und Ti-yuh Balanzing Spay-schull". How dozz Michael do eet? Foll-yume, Foll-yume, FOLL-YUME!!!

Neo2005
09-15-05, 09:45 AM
brt3:
Quote:How dozz Michael do eet?

Answer: Liebe mein affe-mienke!

Penton-Man
09-15-05, 11:05 AM
zee "MS Wurlt-Champ-ee-un-sheep Tune-up" vill be (Euro) 49.99 solo, ohr 99.99 venn kombeint mit zee "Nurburgring Veel und Ti-yuh Balanzing Spay-schull". How dozz Michael do eet? Foll-yume, Foll-yume, FOLL-YUME!!!
Vune- da -Vah !

We will all of course need to know your eyeball to screen viewing distance.

brt3
09-15-05, 12:29 PM
brt3:
Quote:How dozz Michael do eet?
Answer: Liebe mein affe-mienke!
Now is the time on Sprockets when we dance!

Zechman
09-15-05, 01:31 PM
MODESTY is definitely not in your vocabulary
I often remind Mrs. Zechman that my modesty is the main reason that I'm such a great husband . . . . :cool:

--Dwayne

Neo2005
09-15-05, 06:14 PM
Dwayne, Don't forget that if the girls don't find you handsome .... they should at least find you handy.

Rubenfl
09-16-05, 09:10 AM
Just a quick follow up to my questions regarding getting an upscaling dvd. After having read the responses from my fellow qualians I decided to get a DVD that can output 480i over HDMI and forego getting an upscaling DVD player. I got the ARCAM Diva 79 which goes with my ARCAM AV300 receiver.

Meanwhile, having had the 006 for a week now all I can say is "HOLY SH***!!" The PQ is amazing. My wife is already sick of hearing me say "Can you believe this picture?" After having read the thread I expected SD to be really bad but it's tolerable. HD, on the other hand, feels like I'm looking out of a window. Outstanding.

Sorry for blubbering on but I can't help it. Reading about the 006, seeing it at the showroom and having it in my living room are all quite different.

PS - True to history, the HDMI output on my DirecTv HD Tivo unit is defective. I'm getting it replaced on Saturday. Oh well.

umr
09-16-05, 09:42 AM
Just a quick follow up to my questions regarding getting an upscaling dvd. After having read the responses from my fellow qualians I decided to get a DVD that can output 480i over HDMI and forego getting an upscaling DVD player. I got the ARCAM Diva 79 which goes with my ARCAM AV300 receiver.

Meanwhile, having had the 006 for a week now all I can say is "HOLY SH***!!" The PQ is amazing. My wife is already sick of hearing me say "Can you believe this picture?" After having read the thread I expected SD to be really bad but it's tolerable. HD, on the other hand, feels like I'm looking out of a window. Outstanding.

Sorry for blubbering on but I can't help it. Reading about the 006, seeing it at the showroom and having it in my living room are all quite different.

PS - True to history, the HDMI output on my DirecTv HD Tivo unit is defective. I'm getting it replaced on Saturday. Oh well.

I just calibrated a Qualia with an Arcam 79 and I was able to get a superior picture over component with that player than HDMI. The HDMI input on this set is not the best for 480i and 480p inputs. However, the component input required special adjustment to correct for chroma delay. I had to add 16 ns of delay to the red and blue channels to fix this.

It is actually pretty common that the HDMI/DVI inputs in many RPTV's are heavily filtering some or all input resolutions.

CFoote
09-16-05, 10:56 AM
It is actually pretty common that the HDMI/DVI inputs in many RPTV's are heavily filtering some or all input resolutions.

umr, would you suggest ignoring the HDMI input all together on RPTVs?

Chris

brt3
09-16-05, 11:06 AM
umr, would you suggest ignoring the HDMI input all together on RPTVs? -- Chris
And, on a side note, which is "guiltier" -- the RPTVs or the HDMI sources? I am told that DVD players perform some type of signal manipulation/filtering on the HDMI outs. Pioneer is coming out with the 79AVi to replace its' 59AVi DVD player, and they specifically mention that it provides "pure" HDMI output with zero signal manipulation...

kaduku
09-16-05, 11:14 AM
Just a quick follow up to my questions regarding getting an upscaling dvd. After having read the responses from my fellow qualians I decided to get a DVD that can output 480i over HDMI and forego getting an upscaling DVD player. I got the ARCAM Diva 79 which goes with my ARCAM AV300 receiver.



It's not easy making decisions on add-ons for the Q, especially for a comparable DVD player. Looks like you've done your research and very happy with your decision, which is all that matters. Glad to hear that you're having a ball with you're set! :)

kaduku
09-16-05, 11:17 AM
Pioneer is coming out with the 79AVi to replace its' 59AVi DVD player, and they specifically mention that it provides "pure" HDMI output with zero signal manipulation...

STOP IT! STOP IT!, you're making me think again about my equipment! Just when I am satisfied with my set up. MMmmmm pure HDMI output huh!

umr
09-16-05, 11:17 AM
The 59AVi is a player that performs very well over DVI/HDMI.

Both RPTV's and players can have their faults. Many players over DVI/HDMI do not output video levels and will clip the signals or loose bit resolution when you force them to output video levels. Some also do not perform the proper color matrix conversion when they scale the output.

I believe the best DVD performance with the Qualia is available with the highest quality component players using the Silicon Image chips for film mode. This avoids macro blocking and retains the most resolution available from the DVD format.

Players on my short list that use this chip would include Arcam, Denon, Pioneer and Onkyo.

umr
09-16-05, 11:39 AM
umr, would you suggest ignoring the HDMI input all together on RPTVs?

Chris

No.

It just needs to be used with caution. Knowing which input is best for which resolution requires careful testing with signal generators. The performance is too variable to make general statements like "HDMI should be ignored" or "HDMI is the best thing since sliced bread".

The Brillian RPTV's for example do a generally excellent job with DVI, VGA and component for all input resolutions. With this set it is pretty hard to find a bad input.

Take a look at my review to see how I test these things.

http://accucal.org/reviews/6501mB.pdf

R Harkness
09-16-05, 11:41 AM
Question for Qualia 006 owners:

Now that you've become used to the image of the qualia, do you find yourself any more sensitive
to particular areas of picture quality on other displays?

For example: in my case I own a plasma so I've become used to watching an image that is perfectly flat/focused corner to corner, and most important with perfectly even brightness. So when I look at other rear projection-based displays, and LCD flat panels, one of the first things I notice is the uneven brightness.

So, along those lines, is there anything about owning the qualia that makes you less tolerant of certain things about other displays? (I can imagine pixel structure/fill factor being one).

Just curious...

mpsan
09-16-05, 12:06 PM
The thing I notice with other sets is that they seem to have a softer focus. I notice it with credits. Also, when there is a note, or newspaper, shown onscreen, the Q lets you read it. I must say that my two Plasma's are quite good as well, but the Q006 is extra sharp.


Question for Qualia 006 owners:

Now that you've become used to the image of the qualia, do you find yourself any more sensitive
to particular areas of picture quality on other displays?

For example: in my case I own a plasma so I've become used to watching an image that is perfectly flat/focused corner to corner, and most important with perfectly even brightness. So when I look at other rear projection-based displays, and LCD flat panels, one of the first things I notice is the uneven brightness.

So, along those lines, is there anything about owning the qualia that makes you less tolerant of certain things about other displays? (I can imagine pixel structure/fill factor being one).

Just curious...

R Harkness
09-16-05, 12:18 PM
mspan,

Yes, my viewing of the qualia certainly agrees with yours. It's hard to find a sharper display. In fact I was quite amazed to see the same HD feed on the 006 vs the new (45"?) Sony XBR LCD in the same store. The LCD flat screen was punchier, but it was in fact softer than the qualia 006, looking slightly smoothed over in the details. It's not often big displays actually look sharper than good small displays, which is a very exciting feature of the 006.

Penton-Man
09-16-05, 02:52 PM
Players on my short list that use this chip would include Arcam, Denon, Pioneer and Onkyo.
C’mon umr – stop teasing.

Make it easier on the guys that are in the market for a DVD player and list the models if you please.

Penton-Man
09-16-05, 03:08 PM
Question for Qualia 006 owners:

Now that you've become used to the image of the qualia, do you find yourself any more sensitive
to particular areas of picture quality on other displays?
.
Not that this is an answer to your question but, as an aside in regards to finding myself more sensitive to the picture displayed on the 006 itself.........

what I’m noticing is more and more “junk” in the picture with some TV series that are shot with film……..this includes both SD and HD broadcasts…….kinda like shooting a picture of the Royal Pouch with 800 speed film and then having the negative blown-up into an 8x10 print.

I await with anticipation brt’s review of the Mosquito hooked to his 006 to see if we can dump this junk and to what degree because 3K or so for an add-on isn’t chump change.

The finest broadcasts still for me are the NBA and NFL games shot with their HD cameras – except of course for those artifacts during high speed action – which are also starting to bug me when viewing this 70" monster.

BenDover
09-16-05, 03:37 PM
mspan,

Yes, my viewing of the qualia certainly agrees with yours. It's hard to find a sharper display. In fact I was quite amazed to see the same HD feed on the 006 vs the new (45"?) Sony XBR LCD in the same store. The LCD flat screen was punchier, but it was in fact softer than the qualia 006, looking slightly smoothed over in the details. It's not often big displays actually look sharper than good small displays, which is a very exciting feature of the 006.

Two things that I have found that bother me when viewing other sets after having my Q006 for some time now: 1) every other display looks tiny, like a little toy :) and 2) every other picture looks "soft" to me.

I stated this over on the SXRD thread since many starting abandoning the new GW SXRDs in favor of the slightly cheaper A10/A20 Sony offerings. I took a look at the NYC Sony showroom and couldn't believe that people were opting for the A10/A20 over the new SXRDs, unless, the new SXRDs just don't look as good as the Q006. I am very eager to see the new GW SXRD sets; Sony NYC indicated *maybe* the end of next week they will have one set up (another thing I am finding surprising is that there are reports that other stores will have the new sets before the Sony stores...).

Oh wait, maybe three things, suddenly "SDE" was very apparent to me, even at considerable distances.

Aww shucks, I guess I also have to include color; the color accuracy (even on my non-professionally calibrated set...which hopefully won't be too much longer as I hope to see umr fine-tuning my set) is startling to me.

I had friends over last weekend and they seriously wanted to camp out in front of the Q006. A very dear friend of mine who wouldn't know what an AVSForum is if it hit him over the head, nor would he know any of the technical terms used to describe the technologies or PQ, remarked almost instantaneously (as he was watching his beloved Jets lose miserably), "Wow, this is like looking out of a window; I feel like I am right there!"

umr
09-16-05, 03:41 PM
C’mon umr – stop teasing.

Make it easier on the guys that are in the market for a DVD player and list the models if you please.

I thought this would have been obvious. Within these players there are some differences, but they are all able to deliver the goods on Region 1 NTSC Film material over component. The Denon 3800 and 9000 may require factory or user upgrades to reach their full potential if it has not been done already.

Arcam FMJ DV-27
Arcam FMJ DV-27A
Denon DVD-3800
Denon DVD-9000
Denon DVD-2900
Onkyo DV-SP1000
Pioneer DV-59AVi

umr
09-16-05, 03:54 PM
The A20 is actually a surprisingly good value if you are price sensitive and willing to spring for a calibration. The colors on these displays come very close to the Qualia even surpassing it in some cases at low light levels. The A20 will not look nearly as good in low light or if you sit too close.

Penton-Man
09-16-05, 07:28 PM
Within these players there are some differences, but they are all able to deliver the goods on Region 1 NTSC Film material over component.

Arcam FMJ DV-27A


On that note,
For those as serious (or more!) about the CD player portion as they are of the DVD portion of their player………..

Now, is not the time to dilly-dally……

Zee clock is a tickin…………

http://cgi.*********/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5807692334
Ah, just checked the link, must be one of dem computer filters preventing passage....well look it up yourself if you're interested, you've got 1 hr. and 45 min. left.

brt3
09-16-05, 08:39 PM
Question for Qualia 006 owners: Now that you've become used to the image of the qualia, do you find yourself any more sensitive
to particular areas of picture quality on other displays?
Frahnk-ley, aff-ter vatchink telly-vishun on my Qvalia I find that all uther sets vood only bee ownt by Girlie-Men. Heah me too-day, fuhget about me lade-uh...

Sorry for the brief (and bad) Arnold impersonation.

I have to say I agree with you -- once you get a display that really lights your fire (according to your preferences) it completely spoils you for anything else. I have an extremely difficult time watching plasmas after owning my Q006 for 8 months. I think one problem is that you can watch the Q at a viewing distance that is, on most other displays, simply too close. So, if you have a screen-to-viewer ratio "fixed" in your head by what you have with your Qualia, you will naturally gravitate towards that position when looking at other sets -- but be disappointed with the results...

Ted99
09-17-05, 12:03 PM
UMR-- When you did your evaluation of the Q 006, you said that you had not been able to test, yet, if the Q 006 scaler used bob and weave. I did a quick search of the forum and did not find any reference to this. Do you now know?

umr
09-17-05, 12:35 PM
Ted,

I don't believe it does a simple bob and weave based on what I have seen on 1080i D-Theater test patterns. Those patterns retain full vertical resolution on the Qualia.

sophie
09-17-05, 12:48 PM
R Harkness,

After living with my Q006 for a few months now, nothing else seems to measure up. This isn't an elitist pronouncement, just my take on the picture quality. When and if some other display has a better picture, great, maybe I'll get that one some day.

The lack of SDE is the number one factor for me, at this size screen and a 10 foot viewing distance. Some other threads are harping on SSE, but I don't see it, and don't care to learn how to find it, if it exists at all. No dead pixels either. My understanding is that Sony had such a tight QC on these sets, that there have been very few unsatisfied customers. And of that 1 or 2, Sony has rectified the problem, and been left literally with happy customers.

The remaining issues that separate the Q006 from other microdisplays have to do with the nature of LCoS technology, that is, fill rate, no color wheel, those types of things.

FWIW, my Q stand had a small crack front and center on the bottom. My Sony dealer has since replaced it, no problem. So this has been a great experience.

mpsan
09-17-05, 03:16 PM
Yes, my two Plasma's are both new Hitachi 42 and 55 inch sets. The 42 can look a little better than the 55. They are the same model other than screen size. So, I am surprised that the 70" Q006 is even better than the 42 inch Hitachi!

I do not even want to think about what we just spent on 2 Plasma sets and a Q006, with 2 stands!

mspan,

Yes, my viewing of the qualia certainly agrees with yours. It's hard to find a sharper display. In fact I was quite amazed to see the same HD feed on the 006 vs the new (45"?) Sony XBR LCD in the same store. The LCD flat screen was punchier, but it was in fact softer than the qualia 006, looking slightly smoothed over in the details. It's not often big displays actually look sharper than good small displays, which is a very exciting feature of the 006.

Penton-Man
09-17-05, 05:08 PM
Ted,

I don't believe it does a simple bob and weave based on what I have seen on 1080i D-Theater test patterns. Those patterns retain full vertical resolution on the Qualia.
Umr,
Thanks for confirming that for us as it fits with what I’ve/We’ve been told from various Sony sources.

That is also pleasing to hear in case any of us Qualians read on other threads that the deinterlacer/scaler is weak because if it doesn’t do simple bob and weave it is already a step above most stuff out there.

But from the calibrations that you’ve done (and any theoretical assumptions that you may have) can you tell if the 006 weaves 1080i into 1080p or I guess as some people call it "true" 1080i deinterlacing ?

Zues
09-17-05, 11:25 PM
would you suggest ignoring the HDMI input all together on RPTVs?

Chris

I dont have a qualia :mad: 55lcd but DirectTv HDbox over Component and Integra dvd player over Component in progressive is hard to beat IMO...

umr
09-17-05, 11:37 PM
Umr,
Thanks for confirming that for us as it fits with what I’ve/We’ve been told from various Sony sources.

That is also pleasing to hear in case any of us Qualians read on other threads that the deinterlacer/scaler is weak because if it doesn’t do simple bob and weave it is already a step above most stuff out there.

But from the calibrations that you’ve done (and any theoretical assumptions that you may have) can you tell if the 006 weaves 1080i into 1080p or I guess as some people call it "true" 1080i deinterlacing ?

I am not certain how Sony is handling 1080i in these sets, but it generally looks good to me. I see some line twitter at times with some sources, but I cannot nail down what the cause is with the short time I have with them. I doubt that it is anything like the Realta chip, but it looks like a reasonably effective technique to me.

Penton-Man
09-18-05, 04:57 PM
I am not certain how Sony is handling 1080i in these sets, but it generally looks good to me.
Well if the 1080i D-Theater test patterns are indeed sensitive enough to detect even minor changes in vertical resolution ……….then I would say whatever Sony is secretly doing and won’t tell us :mad: is as good (in the practical world of TV watching –rather than test patterns) as true 1080i deinterlacing for film based stuff. :)

The only kicker is does the Qualia 006 do proper 3:2 pull down on 1080i film content for the greatest P/Q available? I believe that Sony calls this their CineMotion function on the menu setting – and this has also caused some consternation of this thread…………..as………………….

The manual claims that CineMotion will only work with 480i sources whereas some people (boy, I’m guessing now, maybe it was jp2 ?) claim that when they enable Cinemotion on 1080i sources it does indeed provide a better picture than when this function is off……..?? suggesting that the 006 is indeed doing 3:2 pull down on 1080i stuff despite what the manual claims.

I would love this to be true – but I’m wondering if other factors are involved and this is but wishful thinking that we got this feature with our 006’s. :confused:

Penton-Man
09-18-05, 05:01 PM
I see some line twitter at times with some sources
Do you recall WHICH sources i.e. were they from set top boxes provided by the local cable co. or satellite providers to your clients?

Because from my cursory reading on this subject, it appears to me that interlaced captured video (that is, like from almost all 1080 video cameras in use today) needs motion adaptive deinterlacing for best results on a progressive display (such as the Qualia 006).

I imagine we have it in some form on our Q's - just probably not quite as good as that Realta chip thingee.

Penton-Man
09-18-05, 05:03 PM
If I failed to mention it in the past :cool:

I believe that if you want your Q to look the very best possible, umr should be highly considered as a calibrator for your needs - given his experience with these units, his attention to detail ............and his competitive pricing. :)

Penton-Man
09-18-05, 05:05 PM
Now that all of the glucose has been consumed in my brain cells...........I'm goin to watch football in Hi-Def on the Q.

umr
09-18-05, 09:56 PM
Do you recall WHICH sources i.e. were they from set top boxes provided by the local cable co. or satellite providers to your clients?
....

I believe it was an SA Explorer 8300 with one or two of the 1080i sources.

rlb
09-19-05, 10:06 AM
The manual claims that CineMotion will only work with 480i sources whereas some people (boy, I’m guessing now, maybe it was jp2 ?) claim that when they enable Cinemotion on 1080i sources it does indeed provide a better picture than when this function is off……..?? suggesting that the 006 is indeed doing 3:2 pull down on 1080i stuff despite what the manual claims.

I would love this to be true – but I’m wondering if other factors are involved and this is but wishful thinking that we got this feature with our 006’s. :confused:

I would guess that Cinemotion does work with 480i on the Q. The new SXRD electronics are basically the same as the Q (right up to the point of no Wega Gate). In the new SXRD owner's manual, Cinemotion is a subset of DRC v2, and it states that DRC doesn't function when using multi picture functions, memory stick, direct/game mode, and also not available with 480p and 720p. Therefore, it would appear to be used with 1080i.

Penton-Man
09-19-05, 10:41 AM
Well there you go folks.

Perhaps us Qualians got lucky again and the manual that we have exhibits typical lack of communication between the engineers and the writers.

For all film content input via 1080i into the Q, try the CineMotion feature enabled for a better pic.

hifi59
09-19-05, 04:44 PM
i'm hearing alot of chatter about tht new HP 1080p (input 1080p also!).i finally saw a review in Sound & Vision magazine on it. Kicked butt! the best dlp they've seen to date. Very close to the Qualia 006, but for only 5K! Any opinions,sightings on this set?

Marc Alexander
09-19-05, 06:48 PM
i'm hearing alot of chatter about tht new HP 1080p (input 1080p also!).i finally saw a review in Sound & Vision magazine on it. Kicked butt! the best dlp they've seen to date. Very close to the Qualia 006, but for only 5K! Any opinions,sightings on this set?On the opening page of this forum, you will find a 4-page thread titled:

"New Hewlett-Packard DLP Models to Accept 1080p over HDMI!!!"

Penton-Man
09-19-05, 07:34 PM
Any opinions?

Absolutely,
In case the Dragonfly shows no or marginal improvement when mated to the 006, brt has himself a new project for another room in his house ! :D

brt3
09-19-05, 08:51 PM
Absolutely,
In case the Dragonfly shows no or marginal improvement when mated to the 006, brt has himself a new project for another room in his house ! :D
Oh man, PM -- don't even go there!

Although I do know some displays that would greatly benefit from the technology...

:D

drfokos
09-20-05, 12:04 AM
I will most likely be ordering a 006 quite soon. I have heard great things about the built-in scaler, but I am wondering if better results might be had by using one of the excellent Faroudja scalers to upconvert DVD (almost all my time in front of the television is spent watching DVDs) to 1080i before sending it to the 006? I understand that even though a scaler like the Faroudja can output 1080p, and the 006 can resolve 1080p, there is actually no way of sending 1080p directly to the 006 -- is this correct?

On another note, can anyone recommend a great video calibration artist in the San Diego area who I might hire to calibrate the 006 once it's installed?

Thanks!
David

kaduku
09-20-05, 01:52 AM
On another note, can anyone recommend a great video calibration artist in the San Diego area who I might hire to calibrate the 006 once it's installed?




David,
UMR is your man, he has calibrated a few Qs and has the capability of accessing the service menu of the Q. He is in Texas, but does tours throughout the US.

pawrampe
09-20-05, 10:19 AM
Has anyone ordered the XL-5000 replacement bulb for the set?
How long did they have the set before needing to replace the bulb?
Where did you order it from, what was the cost?

Penton-Man
09-20-05, 10:52 AM
I understand that even though a scaler like the Faroudja can output 1080p, and the 006 can resolve 1080p, there is actually no way of sending 1080p directly to the 006 -- is this correct?

Correct, the highest resolution the 006 will accept is 1080i 60.

Penton-Man
09-20-05, 10:53 AM
I will most likely be ordering a 006 quite soon. I have heard great things about the built-in scaler, but I am wondering if better results might be had by using one of the excellent Faroudja scalers to upconvert DVD (almost all my time in front of the television is spent watching DVDs) to 1080i before sending it to the 006?
Thanks!
David
That’s the million dollar question :confused: , along with what will an outboard scaler (I recommend the Algolith Dragonfly) do with 480i and 720p broadcast signals scaled/deinterlaced to 1080i for the Qualia 006 ?

We await brt’s test results …..probably in the November/December timeframe……..if Algolith ships on time.

Penton-Man
09-20-05, 10:55 AM
On another note, can anyone recommend a great video calibration artist in the San Diego area who I might hire to calibrate the 006 once it's installed?
Thanks!
David

See my post above re: umr as a calibrator.

I live in Orange County and I suspect he will do a SoCal tour sometime in the future as there are several SoCal Qualians.
I expect to have him calibrate my 006 in the March/April 2006 timeframe or later.

Penton-Man
09-20-05, 10:56 AM
Has anyone ordered the XL-5000 replacement bulb for the set?
How long did they have the set before needing to replace the bulb?
Where did you order it from, what was the cost?
If you bought direct thru Sony, the elitist phone number is ………….

1-877- QUALIA 3
(the first bulb is free :D)

Check brt's Qualia homepage for other sources for purchase.

Penton-Man
09-20-05, 10:58 AM
Oh man, PM -- don't even go there!
:D
Hey, you've always got to have a back-up plan...............

or a second set of tires for different racin conditions. :D

Neo2005
09-20-05, 11:18 AM
umr ..... any schedule yet for us'ens in upstate NY?

kaduku
09-20-05, 12:35 PM
This movie impressed me alot. The German dialogue gave the movie a sense of realism. The movie also gave you a different perspective on the war with the Germans. The movie was beautifully filmed, and the 5.1 sound was especially impressive.

Neo2005
09-20-05, 12:47 PM
Kaduku ... Screened that DVD last night.. it looked great on my 006 (I secretly really have one), and what made it over the top was my new Buttkicker setup in the Berkline. That has added a completly new demension to both my movie and music experience.

http://www.thebuttkicker.com/

kaduku
09-20-05, 04:01 PM
Kaduku ... Screened that DVD last night.. it looked great on my 006 (I secretly really have one), and what made it over the top was my new Buttkicker setup in the Berkline. That has added a completly new demension to both my movie and music experience.

http://www.thebuttkicker.com/

At first, I was saying "What the heck", then I saw the link. Very interesting, looking into it right now.

brt3
09-21-05, 01:33 AM
Ray re. the Mosquito - Dragonfly combo hook-up... You will most likely need a receiver with lip-sync delay.
One word: Alchemy2 D2L -- check it out in this month's WSR

hifi59
09-21-05, 09:22 AM
FWIW...to overcome the lipsync delay with the qualia and dish network, i have to set my yamaha receiver delay to 160ms! the 26" syntax flat panel lcd in my bedroom needs no adjustment at all. weird.

drfokos
09-21-05, 12:44 PM
I am wondering if most owners here plumped for the full $13K to buy from Sony, or did some of you try to save a couple thousand dollars by getting your set from another vendor? Experiences, pros and cons, and anything you might like to add in this regard is appreciated. Thanks!

David

kaduku
09-21-05, 12:56 PM
I am wondering if most owners here plumped for the full $13K to buy from Sony, or did some of you try to save a couple thousand dollars by getting your set from another vendor? Experiences, pros and cons, and anything you might like to add in this regard is appreciated. Thanks!


I bought mine full price plus freakin tax, thats because it was only available from Sony at the time. Buying direct from Sony did give me the piece of mind, that if something went wrong, they would take care of it in a timely fashion. Their white glove delivery service was also exceptional. The free first bulb replacement was also a plus :)

Joel
09-21-05, 03:16 PM
Bought it from another vendor, saved a couple K. Delivery and service were fine, and support has been excellent. No complaints.

Cheers

BenDover
09-21-05, 03:24 PM
I bought mine full price plus freakin tax, thats because it was only available from Sony at the time. Buying direct from Sony did give me the piece of mind, that if something went wrong, they would take care of it in a timely fashion. Their white glove delivery service was also exceptional. The free first bulb replacement was also a plus :)

The free first bulb replacement is not limited to buying direct from Sony. It seems to be for all Q006's, regardless of where purchased...I guess part of the warranty.

[EDIT: Also purchased from another vendor, saved a couple K and was very satisfied all around; same vendor as Joel in fact :)]

BenDover
09-21-05, 03:26 PM
FWIW...to overcome the lipsync delay with the qualia and dish network, i have to set my yamaha receiver delay to 160ms! the 26" syntax flat panel lcd in my bedroom needs no adjustment at all. weird.

Do you have your audio piping into a separate receiver in your bedroom as well?

Zechman
09-21-05, 03:35 PM
FWIW...to overcome the lipsync delay with the qualia and dish network, i have to set my yamaha receiver delay to 160ms! the 26" syntax flat panel lcd in my bedroom needs no adjustment at all. weird.
HOLY CRAP!

At 60Hz, 160ms equates to a delay of 9-10 frames! :eek:

Worst case scenario for de-interlacing is to entirely capture both fields before display, which would be 2 / 60Hz * 1000 = ~30ms. Add in CineMotion w/3:2 pulldown where you get 4 frames for every five, and you're closer to 40ms.

Have both cable/satellite box and the TV doing video processing, and that could double the delay to 60ms or 80ms.*

I think there must be something SERIOUSLY out-of-whack there somewhere.

--Dwayne

*Well, theoretically, anyway. What do I know? I'm just a geek with a big TV. :cool:

Zechman
09-21-05, 03:43 PM
I am wondering if most owners here plumped for the full $13K to buy from Sony, or did some of you try to save a couple thousand dollars by getting your set from another vendor? Experiences, pros and cons, and anything you might like to add in this regard is appreciated. Thanks!

David
Bought from a local dealer--in fact, someone who posts here on AVS--saved a couple G's plus a couple hundred more in sales tax since my dealer is across the Potomac in Maryland. Only regret is that my wife yells at me a lot for hogging the TV. ;)

--Dwayne

kaduku
09-21-05, 04:19 PM
The free first bulb replacement is not limited to buying direct from Sony. It seems to be for all Q006's, regardless of where purchased...I guess part of the warranty.


I did not know this. I thought it was a elitist thing! :D

Penton-Man
09-21-05, 04:31 PM
One word: Alchemy2 D2L -- check it out in this month's WSR
Alchemy is indeed an old and trusted company my friend.

However, there is a little known cheaper alternative for those running low on Penton paper from a company that has a proven track record with their first version and great customer service from their U.S. dealer…………….

http://www.felston.com/
:)

hifi59
09-21-05, 07:21 PM
Do you have your audio piping into a separate receiver in your bedroom as well?

no, audio goes directly into the tv from the sat receiver

hifi59
09-21-05, 07:24 PM
HOLY CRAP!

At 60Hz, 160ms equates to a delay of 9-10 frames! :eek:

Worst case scenario for de-interlacing is to entirely capture both fields before display, which would be 2 / 60Hz * 1000 = ~30ms. Add in CineMotion w/3:2 pulldown where you get 4 frames for every five, and you're closer to 40ms.

Have both cable/satellite box and the TV doing video processing, and that could double the delay to 60ms or 80ms.*

I think there must be something SERIOUSLY out-of-whack there somewhere.

--Dwayne

*Well, theoretically, anyway. What do I know? I'm just a geek with a big TV. :cool:

yea, i agree. it is alot. the receiver will go to 250ms. if i put the Q in "Direct" mode, i don't need any delay at all from the receiver.

divedude
09-21-05, 08:08 PM
Bought from a local dealer--in fact, someone who posts here on AVS--saved a couple G's plus a couple hundred more in sales tax since my dealer is across the Potomac in Maryland. Only regret is that my wife yells at me a lot for hogging the TV. ;)

--Dwayne

Zechman,

And you got a free curtain with yours :D

divedude
09-21-05, 08:22 PM
I am wondering if most owners here plumped for the full $13K to buy from Sony, or did some of you try to save a couple thousand dollars by getting your set from another vendor? Experiences, pros and cons, and anything you might like to add in this regard is appreciated. Thanks!

David


drfokos,

The first wavers on this forum purchased from the Qualia stores for full price, partly because that was the only place they were available and since this was new technology, for the peace of mind. They also had the distinct advantage of being able to watch this wonderful TV for a few months before the rest of us :cool: A few months later some of us second wavers were able to purchase the 006 from other locations for a discount. I was able to buy locally in Dallas from a high end HT store and was extremely happy with the professional delivery and the discount. And I know I will get local service if needed.

Penton-Man
09-21-05, 09:16 PM
The first wavers on this forum purchased from the Qualia stores for full price, partly because that was the only place they were available and since this was new technology, for the peace of mind.
and BRAGGING rights ! :D

Welcome back divedude, how you doin?

BenDover
09-21-05, 09:18 PM
no, audio goes directly into the tv from the sat receiver

well, there you go, that explains the difference between the bedroom tv and the qualia. when a tv is doing the audio and video processing, it is able to delay the audio the amount needed to keep it in sync with the delay that may be introduced by the video processing.

Penton-Man
09-21-05, 09:29 PM
Panic on the Algolith Dragonfly thread may set in around Thurs a.m. EST.
P.S.
Or else perhaps controlled anxiety after placing e-mails and phone calls to Quebec and waiting for a response. :eek:

Penton-Man
09-21-05, 10:54 PM
Yo,
Ben Dooooover – Did you catch the last episode of ROME ?

Can you imagine your wife saying to your son, …
“You will NOT leave this room until you finish those goat’s balls on your plate!”

Suddenly broccoli doesn’t sound so bad to the pre-teens and teenagers. :D

I think the producers should give serious thought to whether they place ROME in a Comedy or Dramatic Series category for the Emmys next year.

I can just hear it now……….
For Best Supporting Actress in a Comedic Role………..
The Emmy goes to………………….
The chick with the fan, ROME, Pilot Episode.

Rack
09-21-05, 10:56 PM
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=583198

jb007
09-21-05, 11:32 PM
The previous rumor was that Sony was killing the SXRD line. That turned out false, as 50" and 60" models are being released.

Is it true Sony will no longer manufacture QUALIA brand products?

Right now, it's just a rumor from endgadget. They sure have invested a lot of money in the two U.S. locations, advertising, marketing, R & D, and the list goes on.

I hope it's not true :(

Zechman
09-21-05, 11:48 PM
Gosh, if Sony did do away with the Qualia brand, then it'd be like I own a Tucker automobile--a rare collector's item and a piece of TV history--not to mention one sweet big-screen TV.

It also would just mean that we'll see the KDS-R70XBR1 sooner rather than later.

Sony has already introduced the follow-up to the 004 projector--a STEAL at $10K.

I don't think anyone will miss those headphones or that digital camera. What's a Mini-Disc? :p

So at least this rumor doesn't fly in the face of logic.

So I say go ahead and close down the Qualia line--I already got mine. :cool:

Long live SXRD!!!

--Dwayne

sophie
09-21-05, 11:57 PM
Do you think the replacement lamps will be available indefinitely? Or is it stockpile time?

Zechman
09-22-05, 12:08 AM
D'OH!!!

I knew I was forgetting something while I was formulating my evil plan . . . . :D

--Dwayne

sophie
09-22-05, 12:12 AM
I suppose we Qualians will forever be linked as the few, the proud. We ended up with a TV too good for the company to continue losing money on. I guess.

gazelle
09-22-05, 12:14 AM
The previous rumor was that Sony was killing the SXRD line. That turned out false, as 50" and 60" models are being released.

Is it true Sony will no longer manufacture QUALIA brand products?

Right now, it's just a rumor from endgadget. They sure have invested a lot of money in the two U.S. locations, advertising, marketing, R & D, and the list goes on.

I hope it's not true :(

Yep, it's true. Been hearing rumors since they announced updated SXRD release dates over a month ago. Makes good sense businesswise. With the SXRD's (and many other very good 1080P microdisplays coming at much less than half it's price, the Qualia 006 would have become unsaleable at anywhere near it's current price. A dodo-bird. Much easier (and cheaper) to retool and add a new 70" SXRD to it's line next year. They're trying to make up for the costly mistake of not dropping the very poorly selling Qualia 006 much sooner and including a 70" SXRD this year. They stand to lose quite a bit of the 70"+ Microdisplay market this Fall and Winter from that error to JVC, Toshiba, Mitsubishi, LG, etc. Looks like heads are rolling in corporate and there's a new sheriff in charge in this division as many, many wise folk were trying to no avail to get them to cut bait and abandon the Qualia many months ago. Finally looks like somebody who pays attention to the bottom line gets to call the shots at Sony. Would expect many heads to be rolling in the coming months as a lot of Sony's divisions are woefully mismanaged and very bloated....

Zechman
09-22-05, 12:19 AM
Well, honestly, if it really is true (which, BTW, I'm not sold on just yet--I don't think Qualia was EVER supposed to be a high-volume seller but rather a technology showcase), there's a big difference between ceasing to sell the product and ceasing to support it.

I wouldn't be surprised if a near-future 70" SXRD set used the exact same 200W bulb.

--Dwayne

Zechman
09-22-05, 12:20 AM
So I've been playing around with HTPC's lately--not in the conventional sense, but specifically FireWire/i.Link/1394 connectivity to both the Qualia 006 and the JVC DVHS deck. I'd like to save data from a computer to DVHS reliably, and be able to play back video files on the Qualia via i.Link. I've learned a few things along the way:

Windows XP just BARELY has driver support for the DVHS deck, and that driver just can't seem to keep up with HD Video's bandwidth requirements. Haven't found any way yet to play back to the Qualia.
Linux seems to have the driver support, but it's not very mature and has no usable programs like DVHSTool or CapDVHS.
Mac OS X seems to have it going on. The FireWire keeps up with the video bandwidth no problem, but I think the laptop hard drive in the PowerBook that I borrowed doesn't do well with a sustained high-bandwidth transfer. The FireWire SDK includes some free and genuinely useful utilities. Aside from some pauses along the way, I could play back to the Qualia with none of the macro-blocking ugliness that XP gave me.

For the first time in over fifteen years, I'm seriously thinking about buying a Mac. :eek:

If you feed the Qualia MPEG video with Dolby 5.1 via i.Link, that sound does get sent out the optical audio output to your audio system.


I also learned something unexpected about the Qualia from one of those Mac utilities, something very interesting indeed . . . .

--Dwayne

sophie
09-22-05, 12:26 AM
Taking a cue from the audio world, many times a line is discontinued, usually at the high-end, and support continues. I can't imagine that Sony would bail out on support. I also think it makes sense to use the same 200W bulb in the forthcoming 70 SXRD XBR, and any other cost-effective compatible components. Sony sure used that tactic on the 50/60" SXRDs with the XS chassis.

tonydeluce
09-22-05, 12:39 AM
Yep, it's true. Been hearing rumors since they announced updated SXRD release dates over a month ago. Makes good sense businesswise. With the SXRD's (and many other very good 1080P microdisplays coming at much less than half it's price, the Qualia 006 would have become unsaleable at anywhere near it's current price. A dodo-bird. Much easier (and cheaper) to retool and add a new 70" SXRD to it's line next year. They're trying to make up for the costly mistake of not dropping the very poorly selling Qualia 006 much sooner and including a 70" SXRD this year. They stand to lose quite a bit of the 70"+ Microdisplay market this Fall and Winter from that error to JVC, Toshiba, Mitsubishi, LG, etc. Looks like heads are rolling in corporate and there's a new sheriff in charge in this division as many, many wise folk were trying to no avail to get them to cut bait and abandon the Qualia many months ago. Finally looks like somebody who pays attention to the bottom line gets to call the shots at Sony. Would expect many heads to be rolling in the coming months as a lot of Sony's divisions are woefully mismanaged and very bloated....

The above had nothing to do with it - they are discontinuing the entiire line -
not just the RP. Low volume equals low profits that's the reason...

G.B.
09-22-05, 12:45 AM
Sony needs to not overlap in screen sizes. say Qualia 70, 80, XBR 50, 60, & 50 the biggest for A-10 & A-20. The 60 WE was not as good as the 60 XBR , so you may go with another brand if you only would see the WE model

MotorMouth777
09-22-05, 09:59 AM
Anyone burn through their first bulb yet?


Been 6 months now and I still love the Qualia. When people come over to watch football, Rome or whatever they ALWAYS comment on how intense the picture is. We were watching bikini destinations and some people commented that when they were on vacation at that location it did not look as good in real life as it looked on the Q.

If the rumor is true I am glad I got the Q and have no regrets about the price. Only thing I want is to be able to get support in case of mechanical problems and access to bulbs. IF they have a cheaper SXRD XBR then I would love to get a 60 for the bedroom. OR better yet make a 80-90 inch SXRD monster and I could move this puny 70 upstairs.

Penton-Man
09-22-05, 10:16 AM
I suppose we Qualians will forever be linked as the few, the proud. We ended up with a TV too good for the company to continue losing money on. I guess.
Like one of those advanced extinct civilizations that were way ahead of the times. :)

Like Zechman said, “I already got mine.!” :D

Penton-Man
09-22-05, 10:19 AM
They're trying to make up for the costly mistake of not dropping the very poorly selling Qualia 006 much sooner and including a 70" SXRD this year.
LOL.

Penton-Man
09-22-05, 10:19 AM
The above had nothing to do with it - they are discontinuing the entiire line -
not just the RP. Low volume equals low profits that's the reason...
Correcto-Mundo.

Or as brt says.....
"Finally, zee "MS Wurlt-Champ-ee-un-sheep Tune-up" vill be (Euro) 49.99 solo, ohr 99.99 venn kombeint mit zee "Nurburgring Veel und Ti-yuh Balanzing Spay-schull". How dozz Michael do eet? Foll-yume, Foll-yume, FOLL-YUME!!! "

Penton-Man
09-22-05, 10:21 AM
OR better yet make a 80-90 inch SXRD monster and I could move this puny 70 upstairs.
Yow-Zir !!!!!!!!! :D

Neo2005
09-22-05, 10:23 AM
Zechman .... quote:

"If you feed the Qualia MPEG video with Dolby 5.1 via i.Link, that sound does get sent out the optical audio output to your audio system."

does this mean that the new BluRay could feed both to the 006 via ilink and then pass through the audio to my Sony A/V ...and I would get a better sound or just better lip sync?

I don't see a way to do that with my Dish 942 and that is my main source.

Neo2005
09-22-05, 10:25 AM
A thought on Qualia being discontinued, that would squash any future updates that may have otherwise been available. (1080p ) etc.

jb007
09-22-05, 11:37 AM
I replaced an 80" ProScan with the Qualia 006. Hmmm.

P.S. So, Dwayne, quit teasing and tell us, what more exactly did you learn???

jb007
09-22-05, 12:47 PM
I wonder how many free bulb replacement orders the cierges will take this week :confused:

brt3
09-22-05, 12:49 PM
Hmmm... so, if the Qualia line is discontinued what I'd like to know is this: how do I pick up one of these P.O.S. dinosaur relics for "Crazy Michael" pricing -- say, about $8K, perhaps?

slocko
09-22-05, 03:22 PM
Why is the Qualia so much heavier than it's DLP counterparts?

Penton-Man
09-22-05, 03:54 PM
I wonder how many free bulb replacement orders the cierges will take this week :confused:
LMAO :D

Alot of bulbs suddenly died.

Penton-Man
09-22-05, 03:56 PM
Hmmm... so, if the Qualia line is discontinued what I'd like to know is this: how do I pick up one of these P.O.S. dinosaur relics for "Crazy Michael" pricing -- say, about $8K, perhaps?
THAT'S exactly what I was thinking.

I've already got a call in.

Others with other sources should do the same.
Let's see how low they'll go.

Neo2005
09-22-05, 04:56 PM
slocko

"Why is the Qualia so much heavier than it's DLP counterparts?"


"Gold" man!!! lots & lots of gold parts.

slocko
09-22-05, 05:03 PM
King Midas himself must be hiding in there :)

The Mac Lord
09-22-05, 05:30 PM
Just a heads up, for those of you who don't know I just read on engadget's website that they have recieved work from sony that they will discontinue the Qualia line of products.

BenDover
09-22-05, 06:49 PM
Why is the Qualia so much heavier than it's DLP counterparts?

The qualia has no dlp counterpart!

Maybe what you meant to say was its gw sxrd counterparts. :cool:

divedude
09-22-05, 08:28 PM
and BRAGGING rights ! :D

Welcome back divedude, how you doin?

PM,

The last round of chemo kicked my butt again, but I am feeling better, just in time for another round next week :eek:

divedude
09-22-05, 08:32 PM
I don't think anyone will miss those headphones or that digital camera. What's a Mini-Disc? :p


Zechman,

Mini Dive says a Mini-Disc is one that is just the right size :D

Penton-Man
09-22-05, 08:36 PM
Mini Dive says a Mini-Disc is one that is just the right size :D

Purrrrfect timing ! :D

divedude
09-22-05, 08:37 PM
I wonder how many free bulb replacement orders the cierges will take this week :confused:

jb007,
I wonder if they want the old "burnt out bulb" back :rolleyes:

Penton-Man
09-22-05, 09:26 PM
Baton down the hatches, divedude – the Big Blow is comin your way !

Zechman
09-22-05, 10:45 PM
P.S. So, Dwayne, quit teasing and tell us, what more exactly did you learn???
Well, it has to do with the EIA-775 data that the Qualia reported back to the AVCBrowser program. I'm still researching to make sure I understand what I have.

But if it is what I think it is, it's very interesting . . . .

--Dwayne

Zechman
09-22-05, 10:56 PM
Zechman .... quote:

"If you feed the Qualia MPEG video with Dolby 5.1 via i.Link, that sound does get sent out the optical audio output to your audio system."

does this mean that the new BluRay could feed both to the 006 via ilink and then pass through the audio to my Sony A/V ...and I would get a better sound or just better lip sync?

I don't see a way to do that with my Dish 942 and that is my main source.
Actually, I think so. One thing I should check is whether the DVHS player includes both sound and video in the data on the i.Link cable. Up until now I've had the DVHS deck connected to my sound system via it's own optical out.

I'll report back what I find out. I suspect that TV-supplied sound may also be lipsync-corrected as well, which could be an improvement (and would also free up an optical input on my sound system. :)) The sound quality itself should be exactly the same--so long as nothing is getting corrupted along the way, data is data.

--Dwayne

bernster2001
09-23-05, 06:43 AM
To cut costs and streamline its sprawling empire, Sony said it would downsize or quit 15 business categories and reduce the number of models by 20 percent. Sony refused to specify which businesses would be trimmed, but Chubachi said research costs for its Aibo robot division will be reduced, and no new product development will be carried out in its high-end Qualia brand line.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8CP83TO0.htm?campaign_id=apn_tech_down&chan=tc

bernster2001
09-23-05, 06:46 AM
Sony is not going out of business. Why wouldn't they honor bulb replacement? Only fear I have is there is nothing in writing about free bulb. How do you get replacement if bulb is ok?

kaduku
09-23-05, 11:29 AM
Sony refused to specify which businesses would be trimmed, but Chubachi said research costs for its Aibo robot division will be reduced, and no new product development will be carried out in its high-end Qualia brand line.

http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8CP83TO0.htm?campaign_id=apn_tech_down&chan=tc

No new product development does not mean that they are discontinuing production. Though if it does, do the Qualia products maintain their value?

rubear
09-23-05, 11:37 AM
I also see the lipsync problem with the 006. I have tried the 942 and 921, same problem. I have another HD set that does not have the video delay. Some broadcasts, also have delay, so it adds confusion (and additional delay) to the issue.

What receivers can add audio delay up to 200mS on all channels?

SRT-10 Viper
09-23-05, 12:12 PM
I actually had my bulb go out today... Just ordered it from Qualia free. Will be here Tuesday. I couldn't wait all weekend since I am home bound due to a medical problem so I ordered one from a website TV parts company. Will be here tomorrow. This way I still get my free one as a back up and don't have to miss TV this weekend.

Has anyones bulb gone out? I have had it since late January... Seem fast for me although my wife watches it during the day.

JimP
09-23-05, 12:37 PM
SRT-10 Viper

Can you estimate how many hours you had on the set when the bulb died?

SRT-10 Viper
09-23-05, 12:42 PM
There is a way to tell on the tv but i Can't do it based on a medical problem.. I would guess 1700.

thesirjay
09-23-05, 12:56 PM
so I ordered one from a website TV parts company.
Well thats certainly fast turnaround time on an order - I didn't realize there were non Sony sources for these bulbs. Can you let us know if the pricetag was lower and if everything turns out fine? If so I would imagine alot of us might want to consider this vendor at some point (after our free replacement of course).

thesirjay
09-23-05, 12:59 PM
By the way what has been the experience for those of you calling up for a replacement bulb? Do they make you go crawling around for serial numbers and such? I am one of the many here who ended up with my Qualia via a non Qualia-store vendor and was wondering if that made life much more complex for any who have gotten the bulb.

kaduku
09-23-05, 01:43 PM
Has anyones bulb gone out? I have had it since late January... Seem fast for me although my wife watches it during the day.

I've had mine also since early January. I did order my bulb ahead of time, but haven't replaced it yet. Picture still looks fantastic. Hoping it will last up until Super Bowl.

Neo2005
09-23-05, 01:44 PM
The new SONY STR-DA7100ES has a lip sync adj.

kaduku
09-23-05, 01:58 PM
By the way what has been the experience for those of you calling up for a replacement bulb? Do they make you go crawling around for serial numbers and such? I am one of the many here who ended up with my Qualia via a non Qualia-store vendor and was wondering if that made life much more complex for any who have gotten the bulb.

Long time no hear! Calling for my replacement was totally hassle free. All they needed was my name and address and I was done :)

thestewman
09-23-05, 02:12 PM
I also learned something unexpected about the Qualia from one of those Mac utilities, something very interesting indeed . . . .

--Dwayne

OK, How about sharing it with your fellow Qualians who also have and use D-VHS.

I use the Qualia via Firewire to record many OTA or Comcast Cable shows on to D-VHS. Excellent recordings with nary a dropout except for an audio drop once in a great while. Hard to know if was the OTA or Comcast feed that caused it.

I also use Firewire to record HD from my Big Dish via a 169 Time conversion that outputs to the D-VHS and allows me to watch on the Qualia 006 while recording.

Zechman are you recording the full HD stream or MPEG2 or Mpeg 4 ?
If you are recording the full stream I think that would account for the inability to keep up with the data stream.

Zechman
09-23-05, 05:21 PM
The testing I was doing was with streams from DirecTV, specifically UHD and HBO-HD, that began life as TY files on my HDTiVo and got to my computer, well, via methods that David Bott does not allow us to discuss on his board. This makes them exclusively MPEG2 (I don't think the Qualia can decode MPEG4) and they do have the "advantage" of being cut down in resolution and bitrate quite a bit.

There's a good bit of information on the HDTV Recorders & Players Forum (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=42) here on AVS, and many many reports (which my own experience confirms) that the problem is with Windows XP. Not PC hardware, but Windows XP.

--Dwayne

MotorMouth777
09-23-05, 08:10 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH My bulb just went out. Darkness has descended across the land. Only got this thing in April.....WTF?

I am douible farked since Sony ships them out of Texas and their warehouse people are gone for the weekend (and the storm) anyway. Anyone know where I can get a bulb online ASAFP. Price is not really a issue. Anyone want to sell one of their bulbs for a hundred over sticker? Would have to go out tonight and I wouid pay freight.

My wife was planning a Desperate Housewives party Sunday night and if she has to miss that then I get no loving.............. AND my beloved Kansas City Chiefs are playing Monday night and the thought of having to watch that on my old 40 inch NTSC Mitsu gives me the willies.

Help me Obi-Wan-Kenobi.........your my only hope.

Desperate Couch Potato

BenDover
09-23-05, 08:19 PM
Well, it has to do with the EIA-775 data that the Qualia reported back to the AVCBrowser program. I'm still researching to make sure I understand what I have.

But if it is what I think it is, it's very interesting . . . .

--Dwayne

OK, I can be silent no longer...

spill the beans man, what exactly was the Q006 reporting via EIA-775?? 1080p capability? :D

BenDover
09-23-05, 08:21 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH My bulb just went out. Darkness has descended across the land. Only got this thing in April.....WTF?

I am douible farked since Sony ships them out of Texas and their warehouse people are gone for the weekend (and the storm) anyway. Anyone know where I can get a bulb online ASAFP. Price is not really a issue. Anyone want to sell one of their bulbs for a hundred over sticker? Would have to go out tonight and I wouid pay freight.

My wife was planning a Desperate Housewives party Sunday night and if she has to miss that then I get no loving.............. AND my beloved Kansas City Chiefs are playing Monday night and the thought of having to watch that on my old 40 inch NTSC Mitsu gives me the willies.

Help me Obi-Wan-Kenobi.........your my only hope.

Desperate Couch Potato

I feel good about myself purchasing a replacement bulb almost the same day as taking delivery of my Q :)

brt's website has a link to the vendor I used...

Zechman
09-23-05, 09:08 PM
OK, I can be silent no longer...

spill the beans man, what exactly was the Q006 reporting via EIA-775?? 1080p capability? :D

Okay, since you asked so nicely . . . .

EIA-775 Unit Identifier Descriptor
Unit Identifier Descriptor Length: 149
Generation ID: 1
Size of List ID: 0
Size of Object ID: 0
Size of Object Position: 0
Number of Root Object Lists: 0
Unit Dependent Length: 139
Well Defined Fields Length: 0

Info Block Len: 40
Info Block Type: 0
Fields Length: 36
Specifier ID: 0x005068
EIA-775 Block Type: 1
EIA-775 Plug Info Block, Version: 1

OSD Input Plug: 0xA0
OSD Output Plug: 0xFE
Analog Input Plug: 0x80
Analog Output Plug: 0xFE
Digital Input Plug: 0x00
Digital Output Plug: 0x00
Transport Stream Input Formats: MPEG-2 DV
Transport Stream Output Formats: MPEG-2

Info Block Len: 93
Info Block Type: 0
Fields Length: 89
Specifier ID: 0x005068
EIA-775 Block Type: 2
EIA-775 DTV Info Block, Profile Level: 1 (Profile B)

OSD Formats Supported:
OSD Layout 0, Pixel Format 1 (640x480x4, a:Y:Cb:Cr = 2:6:4:4)
OSD Layout 0, Pixel Format 2 (640x480x4, a:Y:Cb:Cr = 4:6:3:3)
OSD Layout 1, Pixel Format 1 (640x480x8, a:Y:Cb:Cr = 2:6:4:4)
OSD Layout 1, Pixel Format 2 (640x480x8, a:Y:Cb:Cr = 4:6:3:3)
OSD Layout 1, Pixel Format 0 (640x480x8, Y:Cb:Cr = 6:5:5)
OSD Layout 2, Pixel Format 1 (640x480x16, a:Y:Cb:Cr = 2:6:4:4)
OSD Layout 2, Pixel Format 2 (640x480x16, a:Y:Cb:Cr = 4:6:3:3)
OSD Layout 2, Pixel Format 0 (640x480x16, Y:Cb:Cr = 6:5:5)

Misc Features:
Stretching of 640x480 grid to 14:9: No
Stretching of 640x480 grid to 16:9: No
OSD Fill Surround: No
Source Driven Digital/Analog Selection: Yes
OSD Over Analog Video: No

Default Video Format: 640x480 Interlaced
Analog Video Conversion Format: 640x480 Interlaced

Alignment Data:

1920x1080 Interlaced:
Display as Interlaced
Video Scan Lines: 1080
OSD Scan Lines: 960
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000000

1920x1080 Progressive:
Display as Interlaced
Video Scan Lines: 1080
OSD Scan Lines: 960
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000000

1280x720 Progressive:
Display as Interlaced
Video Scan Lines: 1080
OSD Scan Lines: 960
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000000

704x480 (4x3) Interlaced:
Display as Interlaced
Video Scan Lines: 960
OSD Scan Lines: 960
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 0.890625

704x480 (4x3) Progressive:
Display as Progressive
Video Scan Lines: 480
OSD Scan Lines: 480
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 0.890625

704x480 (16x9) Interlaced:
Display as Interlaced
Video Scan Lines: 960
OSD Scan Lines: 960
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.187500

704x480 (16x9) Progressive:
Display as Progressive
Video Scan Lines: 480
OSD Scan Lines: 480
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.187500

640x480 Interlaced:
Display as Interlaced
Video Scan Lines: 960
OSD Scan Lines: 960
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000000

640x480 Progressive:
Display as Progressive
Video Scan Lines: 480
OSD Scan Lines: 480
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000000

--Dwayne

jb007
09-23-05, 09:46 PM
Okay, since you asked so nicely . . . .

EIA-775 Unit Identifier Descriptor
Unit Identifier Descriptor Length: 149
Generation ID: 1
Size of List ID: 0
Size of Object ID: 0
Size of Object Position: 0
Number of Root Object Lists: 0
Unit Dependent Length: 139
Well Defined Fields Length: 0

Info Block Len: 40
Info Block Type: 0
Fields Length: 36
Specifier ID: 0x005068
EIA-775 Block Type: 1
EIA-775 Plug Info Block, Version: 1

OSD Input Plug: 0xA0
OSD Output Plug: 0xFE
Analog Input Plug: 0x80
Analog Output Plug: 0xFE
Digital Input Plug: 0x00
Digital Output Plug: 0x00
Transport Stream Input Formats: MPEG-2 DV
Transport Stream Output Formats: MPEG-2

Info Block Len: 93
Info Block Type: 0
Fields Length: 89
Specifier ID: 0x005068
EIA-775 Block Type: 2
EIA-775 DTV Info Block, Profile Level: 1 (Profile B)

OSD Formats Supported:
OSD Layout 0, Pixel Format 1 (640x480x4, a:Y:Cb:Cr = 2:6:4:4)
OSD Layout 0, Pixel Format 2 (640x480x4, a:Y:Cb:Cr = 4:6:3:3)
OSD Layout 1, Pixel Format 1 (640x480x8, a:Y:Cb:Cr = 2:6:4:4)
OSD Layout 1, Pixel Format 2 (640x480x8, a:Y:Cb:Cr = 4:6:3:3)
OSD Layout 1, Pixel Format 0 (640x480x8, Y:Cb:Cr = 6:5:5)
OSD Layout 2, Pixel Format 1 (640x480x16, a:Y:Cb:Cr = 2:6:4:4)
OSD Layout 2, Pixel Format 2 (640x480x16, a:Y:Cb:Cr = 4:6:3:3)
OSD Layout 2, Pixel Format 0 (640x480x16, Y:Cb:Cr = 6:5:5)

Misc Features:
Stretching of 640x480 grid to 14:9: No
Stretching of 640x480 grid to 16:9: No
OSD Fill Surround: No
Source Driven Digital/Analog Selection: Yes
OSD Over Analog Video: No

Default Video Format: 640x480 Interlaced
Analog Video Conversion Format: 640x480 Interlaced

Alignment Data:

1920x1080 Interlaced:
Display as Interlaced
Video Scan Lines: 1080
OSD Scan Lines: 960
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000000

1920x1080 Progressive:
Display as Interlaced
Video Scan Lines: 1080
OSD Scan Lines: 960
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000000

1280x720 Progressive:
Display as Interlaced
Video Scan Lines: 1080
OSD Scan Lines: 960
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000000

704x480 (4x3) Interlaced:
Display as Interlaced
Video Scan Lines: 960
OSD Scan Lines: 960
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 0.890625

704x480 (4x3) Progressive:
Display as Progressive
Video Scan Lines: 480
OSD Scan Lines: 480
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 0.890625

704x480 (16x9) Interlaced:
Display as Interlaced
Video Scan Lines: 960
OSD Scan Lines: 960
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.187500

704x480 (16x9) Progressive:
Display as Progressive
Video Scan Lines: 480
OSD Scan Lines: 480
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.187500

640x480 Interlaced:
Display as Interlaced
Video Scan Lines: 960
OSD Scan Lines: 960
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000000

640x480 Progressive:
Display as Progressive
Video Scan Lines: 480
OSD Scan Lines: 480
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000000

--Dwayne

Wow, that is really cool Dwayne!

Now, how about some translation for the rest of us (well, me anyway) Thanks!
:confused:

Penton-Man
09-23-05, 10:29 PM
Wow, that is really cool Dwayne!

Now, how about some translation for the rest of us (well, me anyway) Thanks!
:confused:
Mee too :eek:

Will you please dumb it down a little ?

Marco99
09-23-05, 10:32 PM
Wow, that is really cool Dwayne!

Now, how about some translation for the rest of us (well, me anyway) Thanks!
:confused:

I believe he is pointing out the fact that it says:

1920x1080 Progressive:
Display as Interlaced
Video Scan Lines: 1080
OSD Scan Lines: 960
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.000000

Suggesting that it supports 1080p but puts it out as interlaced. But it also says the same thing for 720!?!? Can the settings be altered?!?! :confused:

- Mark

Zechman
09-23-05, 11:53 PM
Wow, that is really cool Dwayne!

Now, how about some translation for the rest of us (well, me anyway) Thanks! :confused:
Well, as I said . . .
I'm still researching to make sure I understand what I have.
. . . and now you know as much as I know.

So I hope you'll understand why, even though this is very interesting and potentially very very VERY big*, I don't want to start ringing the "1080p via i.Link" bell throughout the land without some actual testing. I've got another Mac on the way, and believe me if the Qualia (and/or the GW SXRD's) can really do 1080p, I'll let everyone know.

Hell, I'll throw a party. :cool:

But if not, then all I'll have succeeded in doing is attracting trolls and getting myself quoted out-of-context in other threads. :mad:

--Dwayne

*but then again, with something like this, I just couldn't resist a little bit of Penton-style teasing. :p

Zechman
09-23-05, 11:58 PM
SO, does anyone know where I can get some 1080p content . . . ?

A utility for converting 1080i60 material to 1080p30, perhaps?

--Dwayne

P.S. I knew I'd get you guys all a-buzz with this one . . . . :eek: :cool:

Penton-Man
09-24-05, 12:24 AM
I don't want to start ringing the "1080p via i.Link" bell throughout the land without some actual testing.
Well I know one thing.......1080i via iLink looks better than it does over HDMI.

Just ask zee Royal Queen and zee Royal Pouch. :)

Penton-Man
09-24-05, 12:25 AM
*but then again, with something like this, I just couldn't resist a little bit of Penton-style teasing. :p
Nuthin wrong with that.

Keeps the adrenals pumping out dem hormones. :D

thesirjay
09-24-05, 12:56 AM
Ack its not good to hear all the burning out stories... A question for all of you are you doing anything "special" to try and avoid extra bulb stress and what kind of usage are you up to (obviously hard to tell if you don't have a darn bulb to light up the display). I had heard at least one owner comment they delayed a full 15 minutes after shutdown prior to powering up again so as to avoid stressing a cooling bulb... As for me I live on the Qualia quite regularly but I am a 2nd waver so only 6 mos or so here of time. I have to admit the wife is gonna skin me if I tell her there will be 600 bucks a year in bulbs on this puppy so I hope these are abherent results.

jb007
09-24-05, 01:14 AM
Well, as most of you know, I've been watching my Q006 since January 8, and no bulb burn-out yet. Although, I'll concede I don't watch it nearly as much as I'd like to.

What concerns me is no warning. I thought an idiot light on the front panel, or a dimming of the image, would occur before it goes dark. The reports posted here sound as though it goes, just like the light bulb in my garage . . . poof.

rubear
09-24-05, 01:27 AM
Sony told me to turn on "direct mode". This was a huge improvement. I don't know what direct mode is, but the picture seems softer.

brt3
09-24-05, 01:30 AM
Ack its not good to hear all the burning out stories... A question for all of you are you doing anything "special" to try and avoid extra bulb stress...
Guys that collect old tubed radios often use a small Variac (variable transformer); this allows you to slowly ramp up the current and gently warm up the tubes. Wonder if this would extend lamp life as well?
Variac Site (http://www.variac.com/)

G.B.
09-24-05, 01:41 AM
brt 3... Yes, This is true. I think Sony already does this & has a regulator on the voltage of the lamp. In tower beacons they found if you don't let the filament go all the way out , but just dim , with solid state flashers they last twice as long ...Same way with big transmitter tubes in Radio & Tv . Staying on 24 Hour's a Day the tubes last twice as Long or More....

JimP
09-24-05, 03:21 AM
Guys that collect old tubed radios often use a small Variac (variable transformer); this allows you to slowly ramp up the current and gently warm up the tubes. Wonder if this would extend lamp life as well?
Variac Site (http://www.variac.com/)


Aren't these ultra high pressure mercury bulbs??? If so, I think they need high starting voltage to light. Feeding them low voltage would keep them from lighting at all.

jb007
09-24-05, 03:30 AM
FYI -- DocDVD posted in another thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6243780&&#post6243780) that QUALIA will continue to manufacture the Q006 "at least until 2007."

sophie
09-24-05, 09:21 AM
Zechman,

So did you Google "Pandora" before you opened the 1080P box?

rubear
09-24-05, 10:08 AM
Aren't these ultra high pressure mercury bulbs??? If so, I think they need high starting voltage to light. Feeding them low voltage would keep them from lighting at all.

Yes, Sony brings the current up slowly as you can see when you first turn it on. Brightness slowly comes up over a 45 second period.

Neo2005
09-24-05, 10:28 AM
Dwayne,
The only 1080p content that I know of is the special WMV disc that came with the Terminator 2 DVD as well as other WMV-HD discs along that line.

... video at resolutions up to 1080p and multichannel audio. See High Definition in action for yourself. Download samples of HD content in 720p and 1080p.
www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/content_provider/film/ContentShowcase.aspx -

Zechman
09-24-05, 11:09 AM
SO, does anyone know where I can get some 1080p content . . . ?

I suppose I should clarify that what I specifically need is MPEG-2 transport streams, which are the native language of i.Link/Firewire/1394 video. I might be able to do some conversions, but ultimately it has to be MPEG-2. And ideally I'd like to get examples of both 1080p30 and 1080p24.

And I definitely won't be able to do anything with it for at least another week. Sorry. :(

--Dwayne

P.S. Funny, I Googled "Pandora" and found this picture:http://www.cvns.net/~dnz/zechman.jpg
I wonder how that happened . . . ?

Penton-Man
09-24-05, 04:17 PM
Ack its not good to hear all the burning out stories... A question for all of you are you doing anything "special" to try and avoid extra bulb stress
Well I don’t know if it helps but I bought a cheapo $15. fan at Wal*Mart and have it placed on the back right side of my Qualia stand facing where the vents are for the bulb and whenever I turn the TeeVee off, I turn the little fan on for about a half-hour.

Not sure if its extending my bulb life….but it makes me happy. :)

Penton-Man
09-24-05, 04:24 PM
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH My bulb just went out. Darkness has descended across the land. Only got this thing in April.....WTF?

I am douible farked since Sony ships them out of Texas and their warehouse people are gone for the weekend (and the storm) anyway. Anyone know where I can get a bulb online ASAFP. Price is not really a issue. Anyone want to sell one of their bulbs for a hundred over sticker? Would have to go out tonight and I wouid pay freight.

My wife was planning a Desperate Housewives party Sunday night and if she has to miss that then I get no loving.............. AND my beloved Kansas City Chiefs are playing Monday night and the thought of having to watch that on my old 40 inch NTSC Mitsu gives me the willies.

Help me Obi-Wan-Kenobi.........your my only hope.

Desperate Couch Potato

Sorry Motor……somehow I missed your post (possibly because I was overwhelmed with Zech’s figures on this page :eek: ); otherwise I would have Fed-Exed you my *whispering softly here* spare bulb.

Good Luck.
P.S.- FWIW – since you are a Chief’s fan…..My bulb did NOT come from Texas but from………………………….
Kansas City, Mo.
Specifically – 8281 NW 107th Terrace

Phone number – 816-891-7550

How are your B&E skills? :D

SRT-10 Viper
09-24-05, 04:38 PM
I found, prior to my lamp going out, the picture for the last couple weeks didn't have the wow factor. I replaced the bulb today and the wow factor is back. I got the replacement free from Sony but they couldn't send it to me until Tuesday. I had to have it for the weekend so I had another one (purchased) overnighted to me. Here is the Web Site: http://www.ercservice.com/lamps/sonylamps/XL5000.html Orderd it Friday, arrived Saturday AM.

divedude
09-24-05, 04:54 PM
Well I don’t know if it helps but I bought a cheapo $15. fan at Wal*Mart and have it placed on the back right side of my Qualia stand facing where the vents are for the bulb and whenever I turn the TeeVee off, I turn the little fan on for about a half-hour.

Not sure if its extending my bulb life….but it makes me happy. :)

PM,
I wonder if the sets with the bulbs going out are in a closed restrictive environment or open on the back, sides and top, and getting proper airflow.

Penton-Man
09-24-05, 05:14 PM
Good point.

SRT-10 Viper
09-24-05, 05:15 PM
Mine is very open abut 6 inhes behind it. My problem is my wife loves to keep the TV on all day while she is home... I told here I am buying her another TV for the Kitchen (flat scren) figure that will save me in the long run. No this isn't a sexist "kitchen" comment. : )

Penton-Man
09-24-05, 05:16 PM
I found, prior to my lamp going out, the picture for the last couple weeks didn't have the wow factor.
Yup, that's what they say should be the normal course of events............
Wow, not so Wow, Dim, More Dim, Dimmer yet.................darkness doom. :eek:

MotorMouth777
09-24-05, 08:39 PM
Penton......appreciate the offer. Our good friends at Sony say they can have a bulb to me on Wednesday. I am going to order a couple of spares for the shelf. I can't believe I was so naive thinking the bulb would last at least a year that I did not have a spare around.

I told the gal at Qualia that my bulb went poof. So she says that to send me a bulb for free they need to know how many hours were on my bulb and for me to get into the service menu on the screen..........Hello.....the TV is dark. She said that they don't automatically send you a bulb for free....only if it is below some number of hours which they wont tell me the number but I am sure it will be one less than my service menu indicates.


My TV is sitting in a very large bay window in the family room with 30 inches to the back wall, it is very open, well ventilated and has two air conditioner vents on each side of the bay out. Not exposed to direct sunlite nor does that area heat up as I keep my house cooled like the computer rooms I hang around in all day. (Zechman will appreciate that thought). Bummer is there was no warning....no dimming....no fuzzy just simply a perfect bright as ever picture one day then poof............happiness is gone. I don't turn the TV on and off over short periods of time. If someone turns it off then it stays off for at least an hour. Its typical use is to come on in the morning M-F from 8:00-10:00 AM and then it is off until 4:00 when the kids come home from school. It will then stay on till Midnight. On Saturday it comes on about Noon for a couple of hours then back on at about 6:00 then probably stays on till 2:00. Sunday it goes off a tad earlier about midnight. Some weekend days it never comes on till late. Probablly close to 9 hours a day average when you add it up. Somewhere around 1500 hours is my best guess. Thought these were rated much longer.

Don't know if this had any effect but the very first time we powered the TV on it made a loud pop noise. The picture looked perfect and it never made that sound again so we paid it no mind. Wonder if that was the bulb slightly cracking but not enought to fail. Maybe with micro fractures it simply lasted less than it should or perhaps that is normal. Any ideas.

I will post up my hours on my first bulb when I get my new bulb and hope everyone else does the same. Hopefully six months of normal use will not be the norm for these bulbs.

Gads.......watching NTSC analog TV really really stinks....................I can't believe they fed us this fuzzy crap for so long and we took it.

thx

divedude
09-24-05, 09:11 PM
Penton......appreciate the offer. Our good friends at Sony say they can have a bulb to me on Wednesday. I am going to order a couple of spares for the shelf. I can't believe I was so naive thinking the bulb would last at least a year that I did not have a spare around.

I told the gal at Qualia that my bulb went poof. So she says that to send me a bulb for free they need to know how many hours were on my bulb and for me to get into the service menu on the screen..........Hello.....the TV is dark. She said that they don't automatically send you a bulb for free....only if it is below some number of hours which they wont tell me the number but I am sure it will be one less than my service menu indicates.


My TV is sitting in a very large bay window in the family room with 30 inches to the back wall, it is very open, well ventilated and has two air conditioner vents on each side of the bay out. Not exposed to direct sunlite nor does that area heat up as I keep my house cooled like the computer rooms I hang around in all day. (Zechman will appreciate that thought). Bummer is there was no warning....no dimming....no fuzzy just simply a perfect bright as ever picture one day then poof............happiness is gone. I don't turn the TV on and off over short periods of time. If someone turns it off then it stays off for at least an hour. Its typical use is to come on in the morning M-F from 8:00-10:00 AM and then it is off until 4:00 when the kids come home from school. It will then stay on till Midnight. On Saturday it comes on about Noon for a couple of hours then back on at about 6:00 then probably stays on till 2:00. Sunday it goes off a tad earlier about midnight. Some weekend days it never comes on till late. Probablly close to 9 hours a day average when you add it up. Somewhere around 1500 hours is my best guess. Thought these were rated much longer.

Don't know if this had any effect but the very first time we powered the TV on it made a loud pop noise. The picture looked perfect and it never made that sound again so we paid it no mind. Wonder if that was the bulb slightly cracking but not enought to fail. Maybe with micro fractures it simply lasted less than it should or perhaps that is normal. Any ideas.

I will post up my hours on my first bulb when I get my new bulb and hope everyone else does the same. Hopefully six months of normal use will not be the norm for these bulbs.

Gads.......watching NTSC analog TV really really stinks....................I can't believe they fed us this fuzzy crap for so long and we took it.

thx

MotorMouth777,

Sounds like you keep the 006 cool enough and haven't done anything other than normal usage :)

There were two Limited Warranties that came with my 006. On the Sony of Canada Ltd. warranty it says "The projection lamp is warranted against defects in material or workmanship for the latter of (i) ninety (90) days from the original date of purchase, or (ii) one (1) replacement lamp within the three (3) year limited warranty period." And they give the following number to call 1-877-899-7669.. But here is the kicker, it says that warranty is valid only in Canada. They also included a US warranty that doesn't say anything about bulb replacement. So I am not really expecting Sony to give me a free bulb, but I will try. I may have to go to Canada to get it ;)

HomeGuy
09-25-05, 08:52 AM
I know this is OT but I was hoping someone could help me out. I was in Magnolia BB and viewed a 61" Pioneer Plasma. The picture was bright with great color saturation and very sharp. I was wondering if any Qualia owners compared their sets with Plasmas and how the PQ holds up? I have a 60" SXRD on order and am curious if the PQ I'm gettin gwill come close to Plasma. If so I'll be a happy camper. You guys are lucky with the 70" set.

SRT-10 Viper
09-25-05, 09:11 AM
Qualia will beat the Plasma hands down in PQ rest assured. MotorMouth777, When I called Qualia, they only asked for the serial number then said it would ship Monday/Arrive Tuesday. Didn't ask for the hours. I did buy it direct from the Qualia Las Vegas store... Not sure if that made a difference.

BenDover
09-25-05, 09:23 AM
I know this is OT but I was hoping someone could help me out. I was in Magnolia BB and viewed a 61" Pioneer Plasma. The picture was bright with great color saturation and very sharp. I was wondering if any Qualia owners compared their sets with Plasmas and how the PQ holds up? I have a 60" SXRD on order and am curious if the PQ I'm gettin gwill come close to Plasma. If so I'll be a happy camper. You guys are lucky with the 70" set.

RHarkness has offered his comments in the SXRD thread as well as having a thread a while back directly comparing a Plasma to the Qualia. He would be your best source of objective information. Even though he has a preference for plasma, he makes this abundantly known and even offers his reasons why.

Here's the link... (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=508889)

kaduku
09-25-05, 01:12 PM
I told the gal at Qualia that my bulb went poof. So she says that to send me a bulb for free they need to know how many hours were on my bulb and for me to get into the service menu on the screen..........Hello.....the TV is dark. She said that they don't automatically send you a bulb for free....only if it is below some number of hours which they wont tell me the number but I am sure it will be one less than my service menu indicates.


MM777,
I would have sent you my spare also if I saw your post, and I wouldn't have charged you the extra 100 bucks you were offering. Glad that you're bulb is on the way. Anyway, that was BS that gal was asking you. My Qualia person on the phone told ask me as a favor that when I receive my replacement bulb (which I still have stashed away), to call back Qualia and they would run through the procedure to check how many hours I have on the old bulb. I guess they could be getting more stricter because no one is reporting their hours.

HomeGuy
09-25-05, 03:08 PM
BenDover: Thanks for link. It sounds like the Qualia is equal if not better then a good Plasma display. That is exactly what I wanted.

Penton-Man
09-25-05, 06:32 PM
I told the gal at Qualia that my bulb went poof. So she says that to send me a bulb for free they need to know how many hours were on my bulb and for me to get into the service menu on the screen..........Hello.....the TV is dark. She said that they don't automatically send you a bulb for free....only if it is below some number of hours which they wont tell me the number but I am sure it will be one less than my service menu indicates.

Well they may have had a change in policy and are getting a little stricter with the freebies. :eek:

I suggest you tell them that your tv is on from morning till night 8-00 A.M. until midnight (as you work at home or some such thing) and figure out the number of days since you took delivery and multiply it by 16. That should probably do it.

Based on your actual hours, I think you got a bad bulb with your new 006.

Penton-Man
09-25-05, 06:34 PM
Hey,
I see I have the first post on p. 250.

Was that supposed to be some sort of milestone for us?
jb ? Zechman ?

divedude
09-25-05, 07:20 PM
Hey,
I see I have the first post on p. 250.

Was that supposed to be some sort of milestone for us?
jb ? Zechman ?

PM,
Congratulations and many more :D I am sure Zechman would have noted the milestone, but he is likely busy working on his "1080p via i-Link" theory ;)

Penton-Man
09-25-05, 10:36 PM
Thank you, Thank you.

I wasn’t sure if this was a big one (p.250) or something coinciding with Zechman’s birthday. :)

Penton-Man
09-25-05, 10:38 PM
I also see the lipsync problem with the 006. I have tried the 942 and 921, same problem. I have another HD set that does not have the video delay. Some broadcasts, also have delay, so it adds confusion (and additional delay) to the issue.

What receivers can add audio delay up to 200mS on all channels?
Here’s another post a few pages back that I missed……..

Man, I’ve got to stay off the hooch …..

If memory serves me correct................
Denon - Models include the upgraded AVR 5800, 5803(A), 4802R, 3803, 3805, 2805 and the newer 5805, 4806, 4306, 3806, 2106, 1906, 1706.

Yamaha – you’ve got to check out which models have it.

Sony – the one Neo mentioned and its predecessor (I think Neo actually bought the one he quoted).

But, you can buy any darn receiver you want- even if it doesn’t have lip-sync if you put another 200 and change out for this little box…

www.felston.com (0 – 680 :eek: ms in 1ms steps (32- 48 kHz)
(0- 340ms in 1ms steps (96 kHz) :)

Marco99
09-26-05, 09:18 AM
Hi, all! I am curious if anyone is using a Denon DVD-3910 with their Qualia 006. I've heard the latest firmware is much improved with HDMI connections. Does anyone have any experience with it on the Qualia? What connection type and settings are you using? Thanks for any info...

Zechman
09-26-05, 09:31 AM
Instead, I was watching out for the 7500th post (and page 250, by current AVS defaults), which I figured would be sometime in late September/early October at our going rate. Then in early 2006, we'd celebrate the one-year anniversary of the Qualia 006 by hitting page 300 . . . um . . . again (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5664355&&#post5664355). :rolleyes:

. . .

Here's to making Page 250 by my birthday, and page 300 by 01/07/2006, the most disappointing day of Penton-Man's life. ;)
As I predicted, we hit page 250 in late September, and even though my birthday was an optimistic goal, we only missed it by four days. :)
Not to mention that I got to celebrate my birthday playing with a friend's MacIntosh and then starting a bunch of evil rumors . . . . :D

I'm still waiting to pounce on post #7500. :cool:

--Dwayne

kaduku
09-26-05, 09:39 PM
Hi, all! I am curious if anyone is using a Denon DVD-3910 with their Qualia 006. I've heard the latest firmware is much improved with HDMI connections. Does anyone have any experience with it on the Qualia? What connection type and settings are you using? Thanks for any info...

I have the 3910/Q006 combo. I use HDMI set at 1080i and very happy with the performance and picture quality. I've tried several other players with the Q and found the 3910 to be the best. My last firmware update was a few months ago, so I am assuming their is a new one available.

Marco99
09-26-05, 11:18 PM
I have the 3910/Q006 combo. I use HDMI set at 1080i and very happy with the performance and picture quality. I've tried several other players with the Q and found the 3910 to be the best. My last firmware update was a few months ago, so I am assuming their is a new one available.

WOW! Are you like the only person letting the player do the upscan AND using the HDMI connection? I thought the conventional wisdom here was using component and letting the Q006 do the conversion work.

However, I am glad you're happy with it because I already have the DVD-3910 and it's the TV part I am still trying to figure out! :)

It is the firmware that's been out a few months ESS-6609-B...

Thanks!

MotorMouth777
09-27-05, 12:04 AM
Wow............ Sony is losing a good customer. I looked at my AmEx statement for the year and I am a very very good Sony customer. The next cool electronic gadget I buy definitely will NOT be a Sony product simply out of spite, even if it is the best product. We paid a lot to own this brand (and lots of their other stuff) and I expect the service to be above and beyond the normal commensurate with the price...........not the basic pass the buck you get from a best buy or other box houses.

I gotta say that Qualia customer service has really really let me down. They say they regularly read these forums........I hope you are reading this one then.

My problem started simply enough with a burnt out bulb...........bummer for me. When I called on Friday, Qualia service was helpful to begin with and the girl I dealt with was actually pretty darned sympathetic listening to my tale of woe. They did say they were shipping a bulb for delivery Tuesday but that is nothing special and I expect they should be able to do that much as a minimum. I mean its only a replacement bulb that the customer can put in.

They set up shipment of the bulb Monday morning for delivery to my house Tuesday morning via Fed X. Ok, so far. However the facility that it ships from happens to be just a few miles down the road right here in my city. Of course I ask if I can just drive over and pick it up......silly me. Now here is an opportunity for them to weld me to Sony for life. But they say this is not how their internal process is set up but that I could call the Sony distribution center to see if they will let me. They helpfully gave me an 800 number. So I call the parts center and the new gal at the parts center couldn't give a rats-ass that my beautiful Qualia TV was having downtime. She told me they did not have a pickup window and I could not come over to pick up this part. It was scheduled to be picked up by Fed X and thats just the way it is. End of story. So suffering from Qualia withdrawl I think hey, I will just call FedX and just pick it up from there. I live in the same city that it ships from for Pete sake. FedX says sure, that should not be a problem but the shipper (Qualia) will have to call them and simply tell them its OK for me to pick it up at FedX. I have to bring a drivers license to prove I am the person on the shipping label but not a problem for them. They understand customer service apparenty................ Easy enough right?

Now here is where they blew it and Sony has lost a customer. Since this diverged from the norm because how many people actually live near the parts depot...... they choked and started mumbling this and that about they couldn't do it because they need to make sure the right recipient gets the part............Hello is anybody home......I am that recipient. FedX was OK with that but Qualia couldn't go that little bitty extra and do something that would really make a customer happy. What the hell do they care anyway...FedX would have already picked it up from their parts center. The only difference is that FedX would deliver it to me at their location today rather than deliver it to me at my location tomorrow. That way I could have had my Monday Night Football party that I had planned. They knew I had this MNFootball party planned but the blown bulb was going to cancel the festivities. ( I think my Chiefs had a blown bulb too) Damnit I was pissed. However, I understand I was asking for someting different and she said she would at least ask her boss because for some stupid reason I assumed a customer service MANAGER could see this was a simply no brainer way to make a customer of their statement brand very very happy...........and their effort.....just make one phone call to Fed Ex.

Wrong.......... the manager didn't even have the courtesy to tell me themself why this was such an unacceptable request but passed on the same sad story which I got to hear again. The gal seemed to be trying but couldn't get past her management...........pity.

When they sold me on this TV they sold the Qualia experience and super Qualia service as part of the price justification. What a load of hooey. In the end their response was the same tired can't do attitude that permiates so many other large organizations........ I find their customer service just average and does not differentiate Qualia from Samsung, JVC, Hitachi or Mitsubishi in any way. All the same mediocracy.

Maybe I was asking for too much but I don't think so. Gonna go out and buy some other brands plasma for the bedroom and send Sony (and copy Qualia) my reciept and a note on exactly why I choose not to buy the XBR SXRD. Doubt it will do any good but will make me feel better.

kaduku
09-27-05, 01:18 AM
WOW! Are you like the only person letting the player do the upscan AND using the HDMI connection? I thought the conventional wisdom here was using component and letting the Q006 do the conversion work.

However, I am glad you're happy with it because I already have the DVD-3910 and it's the TV part I am still trying to figure out! :)

It is the firmware that's been out a few months ESS-6609-B...


No, I am not the only person doing this with their Q006 and the 3910. I believe BenDover also has the same combo with the same settings. I have not tried component, but believe HDMI is the only way to go. The Q is still doing the converting (1080p). I believe that is my latest firmware, though I hear that a newer update is available, but only resolves the Denon link issue.

kaduku
09-27-05, 01:24 AM
Maybe I was asking for too much but I don't think so. Gonna go out and buy some other brands plasma for the bedroom and send Sony (and copy Qualia) my reciept and a note on exactly why I choose not to buy the XBR SXRD. Doubt it will do any good but will make me feel better.

Hopefully Sony realizes what they have done and will make it up to you somehow and I don't think you're asking that much, especially after spending a whole lot of money. Think about though, I heard the 50" and 60" SXRD tvs are fantastic :)

rockbottom16
09-27-05, 01:57 AM
Maybe I was asking for too much but I don't think so. Gonna go out and buy some other brands plasma for the bedroom and send Sony (and copy Qualia) my reciept and a note on exactly why I choose not to buy the XBR SXRD. Doubt it will do any good but will make me feel better.
man talk about one flew over the cookoo's nest. i think people with white jackets are looking for you after this incident. all this because of fed ex overnight?

F23Coupe
09-27-05, 02:26 AM
Wow............ Sony is losing a good customer. I looked at my AmEx statement for the year and I am a very very good Sony customer. The next cool electronic gadget I buy definitely will NOT be a Sony product simply out of spite, even if it is the best product. We paid a lot to own this brand (and lots of their other stuff) and I expect the service to be above and beyond the normal commensurate with the price...........not the basic pass the buck you get from a best buy or other box houses.

I gotta say that Qualia customer service has really really let me down. They say they regularly read these forums........I hope you are reading this one then.

My problem started simply enough with a burnt out bulb...........bummer for me. When I called on Friday, Qualia service was helpful to begin with and the girl I dealt with was actually pretty darned sympathetic listening to my tale of woe. They did say they were shipping a bulb for delivery Tuesday but that is nothing special and I expect they should be able to do that much as a minimum. I mean its only a replacement bulb that the customer can put in.

They set up shipment of the bulb Monday morning for delivery to my house Tuesday morning via Fed X. Ok, so far. However the facility that it ships from happens to be just a few miles down the road right here in my city. Of course I ask if I can just drive over and pick it up......silly me. Now here is an opportunity for them to weld me to Sony for life. But they say this is not how their internal process is set up but that I could call the Sony distribution center to see if they will let me. They helpfully gave me an 800 number. So I call the parts center and the new gal at the parts center couldn't give a rats-ass that my beautiful Qualia TV was having downtime. She told me they did not have a pickup window and I could not come over to pick up this part. It was scheduled to be picked up by Fed X and thats just the way it is. End of story. So suffering from Qualia withdrawl I think hey, I will just call FedX and just pick it up from there. I live in the same city that it ships from for Pete sake. FedX says sure, that should not be a problem but the shipper (Qualia) will have to call them and simply tell them its OK for me to pick it up at FedX. I have to bring a drivers license to prove I am the person on the shipping label but not a problem for them. They understand customer service apparenty................ Easy enough right?

Now here is where they blew it and Sony has lost a customer. Since this diverged from the norm because how many people actually live near the parts depot...... they choked and started mumbling this and that about they couldn't do it because they need to make sure the right recipient gets the part............Hello is anybody home......I am that recipient. FedX was OK with that but Qualia couldn't go that little bitty extra and do something that would really make a customer happy. What the hell do they care anyway...FedX would have already picked it up from their parts center. The only difference is that FedX would deliver it to me at their location today rather than deliver it to me at my location tomorrow. That way I could have had my Monday Night Football party that I had planned. They knew I had this MNFootball party planned but the blown bulb was going to cancel the festivities. ( I think my Chiefs had a blown bulb too) Damnit I was pissed. However, I understand I was asking for someting different and she said she would at least ask her boss because for some stupid reason I assumed a customer service MANAGER could see this was a simply no brainer way to make a customer of their statement brand very very happy...........and their effort.....just make one phone call to Fed Ex.

Wrong.......... the manager didn't even have the courtesy to tell me themself why this was such an unacceptable request but passed on the same sad story which I got to hear again. The gal seemed to be trying but couldn't get past her management...........pity.

When they sold me on this TV they sold the Qualia experience and super Qualia service as part of the price justification. What a load of hooey. In the end their response was the same tired can't do attitude that permiates so many other large organizations........ I find their customer service just average and does not differentiate Qualia from Samsung, JVC, Hitachi or Mitsubishi in any way. All the same mediocracy.

Maybe I was asking for too much but I don't think so. Gonna go out and buy some other brands plasma for the bedroom and send Sony (and copy Qualia) my reciept and a note on exactly why I choose not to buy the XBR SXRD. Doubt it will do any good but will make me feel better.

You get NO pity from me. A lot of companies won't do what you're asking for because of possible litigation. They have policies to protect themselves in case something happens to you or the part when you pick it up. If they open the doors to have YOU pick it up, they'll have to indiscriminantly allow the next customer (whether it be a Qualia customer or someone who's replacing a defective cassette tape) to do the same. A distribution/warehouse is OFF-LIMITS to the general public because of the heavy machinery that operates there constantly. Sure, you missed your MNF. If Sony was going to impress you, they should've courier'ed it to your home that day. But in my book, your MNF game fell in on the wrong day and time. What if your mishap happened on a holiday? It's out of their control. You were going to get your part in 2 business days, which is VERY GOOD in the industry of service and repair. One other thing I do agree with you is that the manager and the rep. could've done a bit more to try to help you instead of passing the buck. The Qualia rep. should've handled your case from start to finish and made sure you were satisfied instead of just giving you the number. That's the only big thing I truly see lacking.

JimP
09-27-05, 02:45 AM
man talk about one flew over the cookoo's nest. i think people with white jackets are looking for you after this incident. all this because of fed ex overnight?


More like the embarrasement from canceling the party. If the bulb had blown on the previous Tuesday and he had gotten the new bulb by Thursday, it would never have come up. As it is, he got involved in trying to pick up a part and then it snowballed.

Two things though.

1. Sure seems that the bulb should have lasted longer.

2. Keep a spare one handy for such a situation.

tonydeluce
09-27-05, 03:16 AM
Wow............ Sony is losing a good customer. I looked at my AmEx statement for the year and I am a very very good Sony customer. The next cool electronic gadget I buy definitely will NOT be a Sony product simply out of spite, even if it is the best product. We paid a lot to own this brand (and lots of their other stuff) and I expect the service to be above and beyond the normal commensurate with the price...........not the basic pass the buck you get from a best buy or other box houses.

I gotta say that Qualia customer service has really really let me down. They say they regularly read these forums........I hope you are reading this one then.

My problem started simply enough with a burnt out bulb...........bummer for me. When I called on Friday, Qualia service was helpful to begin with and the girl I dealt with was actually pretty darned sympathetic listening to my tale of woe. They did say they were shipping a bulb for delivery Tuesday but that is nothing special and I expect they should be able to do that much as a minimum. I mean its only a replacement bulb that the customer can put in.

They set up shipment of the bulb Monday morning for delivery to my house Tuesday morning via Fed X. Ok, so far. However the facility that it ships from happens to be just a few miles down the road right here in my city. Of course I ask if I can just drive over and pick it up......silly me. Now here is an opportunity for them to weld me to Sony for life. But they say this is not how their internal process is set up but that I could call the Sony distribution center to see if they will let me. They helpfully gave me an 800 number. So I call the parts center and the new gal at the parts center couldn't give a rats-ass that my beautiful Qualia TV was having downtime. She told me they did not have a pickup window and I could not come over to pick up this part. It was scheduled to be picked up by Fed X and thats just the way it is. End of story. So suffering from Qualia withdrawl I think hey, I will just call FedX and just pick it up from there. I live in the same city that it ships from for Pete sake. FedX says sure, that should not be a problem but the shipper (Qualia) will have to call them and simply tell them its OK for me to pick it up at FedX. I have to bring a drivers license to prove I am the person on the shipping label but not a problem for them. They understand customer service apparenty................ Easy enough right?

Now here is where they blew it and Sony has lost a customer. Since this diverged from the norm because how many people actually live near the parts depot...... they choked and started mumbling this and that about they couldn't do it because they need to make sure the right recipient gets the part............Hello is anybody home......I am that recipient. FedX was OK with that but Qualia couldn't go that little bitty extra and do something that would really make a customer happy. What the hell do they care anyway...FedX would have already picked it up from their parts center. The only difference is that FedX would deliver it to me at their location today rather than deliver it to me at my location tomorrow. That way I could have had my Monday Night Football party that I had planned. They knew I had this MNFootball party planned but the blown bulb was going to cancel the festivities. ( I think my Chiefs had a blown bulb too) Damnit I was pissed. However, I understand I was asking for someting different and she said she would at least ask her boss because for some stupid reason I assumed a customer service MANAGER could see this was a simply no brainer way to make a customer of their statement brand very very happy...........and their effort.....just make one phone call to Fed Ex.

Wrong.......... the manager didn't even have the courtesy to tell me themself why this was such an unacceptable request but passed on the same sad story which I got to hear again. The gal seemed to be trying but couldn't get past her management...........pity.

When they sold me on this TV they sold the Qualia experience and super Qualia service as part of the price justification. What a load of hooey. In the end their response was the same tired can't do attitude that permiates so many other large organizations........ I find their customer service just average and does not differentiate Qualia from Samsung, JVC, Hitachi or Mitsubishi in any way. All the same mediocracy.

Maybe I was asking for too much but I don't think so. Gonna go out and buy some other brands plasma for the bedroom and send Sony (and copy Qualia) my reciept and a note on exactly why I choose not to buy the XBR SXRD. Doubt it will do any good but will make me feel better.

Sounds like I better buy a spare bulb now :-)

BenDover
09-27-05, 07:08 AM
No, I am not the only person doing this with their Q006 and the 3910. I believe BenDover also has the same combo with the same settings. I have not tried component, but believe HDMI is the only way to go. The Q is still doing the converting (1080p). I believe that is my latest firmware, though I hear that a newer update is available, but only resolves the Denon link issue.

Yes, kaduku is right. I too have the 3910 and am feeding my Q006 via HDMI at 1080i. I monkeyed with the other settings, including passing 480p (not 480i), but found the 1080i the most pleasing. It truly is spectacular. The uninitiated don't even know that they are watching a DVD!

thestewman
09-27-05, 10:25 AM
Intel, Microsoft back next-generation DVDs
Tech heavyweights throw weight behind format opposed by Sony, Dell


Complete article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9501255/)

kaduku
09-27-05, 11:54 AM
man talk about one flew over the cookoo's nest. i think people with white jackets are looking for you after this incident. all this because of fed ex overnight?

Looking at it from a different view, yes it does look like MM went a little nuts, but don't we all sometimes do! Working in the customer service field, companies like Sony's Qualia should know that there will be times when nothing absolutely can't be done, and some customers may actually know this, but all they are asking is that they be heard and that someone is listening. We also bought the TV for the name and service, not only for it's picture quality.