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Thanks to all who contribute. This is a nice place to be. Long live QUALIA.

As the baseball season winds down, and in commemoration of the 7,500th post (by BenDover), here are the current stats about this thread:

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7,503 Posts

Leading posters on this thread:

1,241 Penton-Man
479 kaduku
461 brt3
454 BenDover

Thanks to all who contribute. This is a nice place to be. Long live QUALIA.

Wow! One out of six posts is from Penton-Man...

As the baseball season winds down, and in commemoration of the 7,500th post (by BenDover), here are the current stats about this thread:

314,837 Views
7,503 Posts

Leading posters on this thread:

1,241 Penton-Man
479 kaduku
461 brt3
454 BenDover

Thanks to all who contribute. This is a nice place to be. Long live QUALIA.


I love it when you do this man! I still don't get how you get these figures, but keep it going!

The first SXRD 60" has been delivered to it's new owner already and the enthusiam and excitement those guys have on that thread is reminiscent of ours back in the day.

On the Bulb issue, do you guys run the set in "High Altitude" setting "ON". I do and it seems to speed up the fan, and that's it from what I can tell. Not to say that I have not ordered a spare, but just a suggestion.

has any one use the new HQV BENCHMARK DVD to test the q 006 to see if the Q pass all the test?

i think you guys missed MM's point. all he was asking was that Sony give Fedex permission for him to pick it up from the Fedex location, not their warehouse. Initially he asked the warehouse, but they said no. He didn't get upset, he gave them another choice. I don't find his request unreasonable.

Hi,

I'm waiting on my order for the 60" baby brother to the Qualia. I was wondering if these sets needs calibration or are the settings from the factory pretty close to spot on?

Thanks in advance

has any one use the new HQV BENCHMARK DVD to test the q 006 to see if the Q pass all the test?

I have used that test DVD however I don't believe what I was testing was solely the q006's performance since I cannot pass 480i via hdmi using my 3910.

My combined setup did appear to pass with flying colors, or maybe I should say with flying flags :)

penton/zech: my apologies for the 7500th post. I was responding quickly and hadn't noticed...not that I ever notice such things anyhow making what I did that much more shameful :)

penton/zech: my spoologirs for the 7500th post. I was responding quickly and hadn't noticed...not that I ever notice such things anyhow making what I did that much more shameful :)

Aw, no biggie, there's always post #8000. Besides, at this rate, it appears this thread may outlast production of our beloved Qualias :rolleyes:

Hi,

I'm waiting on my order for the 60" baby brother to the Qualia. I was wondering if these sets needs calibration or are the settings from the factory pretty close to spot on?

Thanks in advance

I'm not a calibrator nor do I know any calibrators other than those here on the forum.
With that disclaimer out of the way, every set needs to be calibrated since by definition a calibration is a union of two devices 1) the source and 2) the set itself.
Since every source differs in its output the set cannot be exactly calibrated for every source.

So maybe the real question is how much of an improvement can you expect to see with a given source if you calibrate it vs one of the default settings.

[EDIT: Sorry about that unintelligible mess...was typing on my BlackBerry and did not proofread it as I was stepping off my train :D]

I'm not a calibeknow any calibrators prest other than knospme who drewsed.

What the hell, Ben???????????????? :confused:

Leading posters on this thread:

479 kaduku
461 brt3
454 BenDover

Looks like we've got a horse race for the 2nd spot in the money folks!

I want to see some feverish typing from these 3 guys over the next few months!

Wow............ Sony is losing a good customer.
Geez motor……….

I asked you specifically about your Breaking and Entering skills. :p

Who won that game anyway?

AARRGH!!! Not only did I miss #7500, but I missed it by a full 15 posts! :mad:

I KNEW I should have stayed up until 4-in-the-morning . . . .

Remember everyone, page 300 by 01/07/2006! :)

--Dwayne

No, I am not the only person doing this with their Q006 and the 3910. I believe BenDover also has the same combo with the same settings. I have not tried component, but believe HDMI is the only way to go. The Q is still doing the converting (1080p). I believe that is my latest firmware, though I hear that a newer update is available, but only resolves the Denon link issue.

Yes, the new firmware is DL 3rd Edition but I had also heard it had improved HDMI performance. I currently don't have an HDMI interface, so I could not say myself.

If you are outputting 480p you should try the 1080i setting over HDMI. BenDover seems to think it is best to let the 3910 do the work.

Yes, kaduku is right. I too have the 3910 and am feeding my Q006 via HDMI at 1080i. I monkeyed with the other settings, including passing 480p (not 480i), but found the 1080i the most pleasing. It truly is spectacular. The uninitiated don't even know that they are watching a DVD!

BenDover, I am SOOOOOO glad to hear you say that. I was kind of concerned that people were suggesting feeding the set the 480 signal. I mean I know Sony put some good electronics into their Q006, but what's the point of HDMI and $1K+ DVD player with a 1080i output if you aren't really using it?

Would you say a well mastered DVD over the 1080i HDMI approaches looking like an HD signal or is it obviously not even close?

Hooray!!! My new (well, slightly used) MacIntosh comes tomorrow!!!

For those of you who have no idea what this has to do with the Qualia 006, stay tuned . . . .

--Dwayne

Must . . . catch . . . up . . . to . . . kaduku, . . . brt3, . . . and BenDover!

Hooray!!! My new (well, slightly used) MacIntosh comes tomorrow!!! For those of you who have no idea what this has to do with the Qualia 006, stay tuned...
Dwayne -- as a dyed-in-the-wool Macintosh Man, I cannot wait to hear about your evil schemes. One thing I've been looking to install is the EyeTV500 -- the HD version that turns your Mac into a Tivo. So many projects, so little time...

Check this out. Go to THIS LINK. (http://servicesales.sel.sony.com/web/index.jsp) At the top right corner type in "KDS-70Q006" and click the "search" button; this gives you a list of Q006 accessories...

182466821 AC POWER-SUPPLY CORD Yes $38.40
X20550101 ASSY, CAP PANEL Yes $38.40
X40411661 CLOTH ASSY, CLEANING No $28.95
X42003551 DUST REMOVER ASSY No $8.09
258414112 INSTR MAN,KDS-70Q006 04 EN Yes $7.50
XL5000 LAMP BLOCK ASSY XL-5000U No $299.99
259030512 QS KDS-70Q006 04 EN Yes $5.00
147833711 RM-Y914 REMOTE CONTROL Yes $62.95
A1087882B SPEAKER (L) BLOCK ASSY Yes $316.14
A1087883B SPEAKER (R) BLOCK ASSY Yes $316.14

Thank GOD I can get another one of those nifty dust brushes...
:D

Make that 464...

Would you say a well mastered DVD over the 1080i HDMI approaches looking like an HD signal or is it obviously not even close?
Not even close.

The best HD that I get (via cable) is the HD PBS channel.
Tune into that and then flick over to your DVD. :)

Make that 464...
And therrrrrrr off and running !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not even close. The best HD that I get (via cable) is the HD PBS channel. Tune into that and then flick over to your DVD. :)
PM -- who's your cable provider? On my Comcast feed PBS has more macroblocking than any other HD channel. I might assume Comcast is allocating bit rate/bandwitdth based on Arbitron ratings -- but Discovery HD looks pretty stunning...
:rolleyes:

Adelphia (as in Greece ) ..............soon to become Time Warner.

Discovery HD is fantastic also but, I think PBS is just a tad better...not much mind you.
Adelphia's SoCal head honchos confirmed it with some techno bable to me over the phone that only you and Zechman would understand.

Can I go to bed now?......as I've got some padding on you guys fighting for 2nd place.

here's some FYI. joel left a sony information sheet behind on the Qualia by accident. this is what it says about "direct mode" setting for those who wondered about it (myself included)

on=10 bit mode; off=8 bit mode. on mode makes digital keystone correction and gamma correction options unavailable.

not sure, but it sounds like on is the way to go. after all, it helps with lipsync issues to boot.

Sony told me to turn on "direct mode" to help with lipsync. It was a huge help, but there's still some delay. They deny it, but I have two HD receivers and two HD sets. By swapping I determined the 006 still has video delay. I'm resigned to getting a surround processor that can delay on all channels. Any suggestions? I don't need amplification, video switching, or special effects.
Thanks,
-
Robert
My setup: http://stampededrive.net/Theater.htm

Phew...........Lamp in and I am much better now. All I can say is that sony really knows how to pack one of these things. With the multitude of boxes and air bags I think it could have survived a train wreck. It is actually very easy to put it in. The bulb shattered inside its protective little house. Nothing leaked out but the bulb simply detonated...........bummer. Can anyone tell me how to get the TV to show how many hours I had so I can report up exactly how long this bulb lasted.

I did go a little psycho but damn......I just love this TV and to see it sitting there all dark and lonely.........well it was too much for a guy to take. Besides my wanker brother took that opportunity to rub me that his plasma was working and mine was not. I actually had to hold my nose and go over to his house and watch his puny little 50 inch plasma. My KC Chiefs were so distraught about my Qualia bulb situation that the let Denver beat them like a drum. Tell me that would not make any of you go a little nuts.........especially when your bulb was sitting just a few miles from you and some cube troll was telling you that you couldn't have it till later.......just because.

Anyway as good as new......at least for another 5 months. Thanks all for your moral support. Penton et al...I will not forget your kind offer to share your spare bulbs.

thx

Zechman..........

I had a recent impulse buy of a Mac G5 dual 2.7's 2 GB Ram, NVidia 6800 Ultra, 500 GB disk, 30 inch cinema monitor (which is awesome by the way) which is now just sitting around in its box doing absolutely nothing......... I used it for a couple of months and bought a 17 inch powerbook to replace a thinkpad as my primary work computer. The powerbook easily runs my 30 inch apple monitor so the G5 was put on waivers. Beautiful computer but was pretty much was relegated to late night porn surfing and other silly places on the net. Kinda overkill for that. I had been considering selling it on ebay.........but then I read your post.


Are you hinting that I could put this Jobsian monster to some good use with my Q. Tease us no further you technological sage, you purveyor of bits and bytes. We await your enlightenment and our true nerdification..........master.



Oh yea...... If you want to show off your picture to someone I have found that the opening sequence to Rome when set to vivid is simply..........stunning. Everyone and I mean everyone (even the plama fanatics) sit slack jawed at that one.


Did I say I loved this TV.

Check this out. Go to THIS LINK. (http://servicesales.sel.sony.com/web/index.jsp) At the top right corner type in "KDS-70Q006" and click the "search" button; this gives you a list of Q006 accessories...

New bulb is on the way!
(As MotorMouth777 would say, "Where the Hell is that bulb?" ;) )

But somehow 4 slices of Penton-Paper seems a little steep for a standard power cord--even one with a ferrite. :(

--Dwayne

Dwayne -- as a dyed-in-the-wool Macintosh Man, I cannot wait to hear about your evil schemes. One thing I've been looking to install is the EyeTV500 -- the HD version that turns your Mac into a Tivo. So many projects, so little time...
Ray -- as a dyed-in-the-wool MacIntosh Basher, I'm still somewhat in disbelief that I've even done this. If anything I had tried with the PC's FireWire had worked properly, I'd have gone that route. As least I can console myself that OS X is really a fancy-schmancy BSD Unix, so I'll be reasonably at home there.

My brother's gonna have a field day when he finds out, after all the ribbing I've given him . . . . :eek:

And for me, the "TiVo Geek", there's no subsitute for the real deal. Once you've gotten over the fear of cracking open the case, there's so much more you can do. (And it doesn't hurt to be an old pro with Linux, either.)

--Dwayne

Are you hinting that I could put this Jobsian monster to some good use with my Q. Tease us no further you technological sage, you purveyor of bits and bytes. We await your enlightenment and our true nerdification..........master.

Wow, you really know how to butter a guy up!

Download the FireWire SDK and you'll find a couple of example programs for communicating with other FireWire devices that work perfectly with the Qualia. Two of those programs are DVHS emulators that can record from the Qualia's tuner and play back MPEG-2 files to the Qualia. That, combined with your 500GB of disk space can become a nice little video server.

It could also be the path to something much bigger, but I don't want to make any proclamations until I've tested it and I'm sure. Read back a couple of pages for more info. Start with my last post on page 247 (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6232669&&#post6232669) and go from there.

--Dwayne

Edited to add the link. What kind of Official Historian would I be if I didn't? :)

For the first time in over fifteen years, I'm seriously thinking about buying a Mac. :eek:

Just to put it all in perspective, the last "MacIntosh" I owned was a pair of ROM chips that went inside a little box that plugged into the parallel port of my Amiga 2000--and an emulator program called A-Max. Worked pretty well, too. :cool:

--Dwayne

Weeeeeee!!!!

Just 25 more posts and I'll have page 252 all to myself! :D

--Dwayne

[EDIT: It seems I can't count this morning . . . . :confused:]

This must be what it feels like to be Penton-Man! :D

--Dwayne

Must . . . catch . . . up . . . to . . . kaduku, . . . brt3, . . . and BenDover! :p

--Dwayne

Sony told me to turn on "direct mode" to help with lipsync. It was a huge help, but there's still some delay. They deny it, but I have two HD receivers and two HD sets. By swapping I determined the 006 still has video delay. I'm resigned to getting a surround processor that can delay on all channels. Any suggestions? I don't need amplification, video switching, or special effects.
Thanks,
-
Robert
My setup: http://stampededrive.net/Theater.htm

Nice setup, Robert! And welcome to AVS!

I'm using a Sony STR-DA5000ES. Fairly inexpensive, has delay processing (in 10ms steps), and you can use the Sony S-Link ports to effectively make the TV into the IR receiver for it. Admittedly, it's probably overkill for what you want, though.

Also, Penton-Man posted some other suggestions a few pages back. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6251231#post6251231)

Hope that helps!

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)

. . . and this one makes NINE!

--Dwayne

[EDIT: Seems I STILL can't count this morning! :confused: ]

. . . and this one makes TEN! A new record!!!

The previous record-holder was Penton-Man (big surprise!) with nine posts in a row, starting here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5393071&&#post5393071).

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)

EDIT: Oops, not really! See this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6271498&&#post6271498). :(

Ok guys - need some advice. You may remember me lurking around here for the last 1+ years.

My house addition is now about 6-7 weeks from completion and that is when I was planning on getting my Q. I will first approach the 2-3 Tweeters that are within 30+ minutes of my home/work.

What is your best guess as to the mentality that I might face regarding Q;
Supply
Price Flexibility?

How much will they know/care regarding regarding Sony's "reposition" of Qualia as well as the upcoming cheaper 1080P's coming out from others?

Bottom line: I want my 006 but don't want to show my hand.

Without a new 70" XBR coming until middle/end of next year I wonder if they will be in any rush to discount below the ORIGINAL msrp.

I read elsewhere in this forum that Sony was to meet this/last week to discuss a price reduction (slated for November?)

I realize that you do not have a crystal ball but I want to see if I can get an edge regarding my negotiating.

Thanks!

Zechman - sorry to step in on your page!

Zechman - sorry to step in on your page!
That's okay. I had pretty much run out of things to say, anyway.

"this one makes NINE" is, admittedly, pretty damn lame.

--Dwayne

Phew...........Lamp in and I am much better now


Does this mean that you have forgiven Sony and will re-consider the SXRD 50" or 60" again :)

I had a recent impulse buy of a Mac G5 dual 2.7's 2 GB Ram, NVidia 6800 Ultra, 500 GB disk, 30 inch cinema monitor (which is awesome by the way) which is now just sitting around in its box doing absolutely nothing... I had been considering selling it on ebay.........but then I read your post.
Glad everything is copacetic once more in MM/Qualia Land. Having to go "cold-turkey" as a Qualia owner must be a very cruel form of hell...

About the Mac -- pay no attention to the man behind the curtain (Zechman) and sell that old, obsolete Mac-setup (read: the new Intel ones will be peachy-keen) to old brt3...

Seriously, dude -- that is one sweet setup. We are designing office cabinets and my wife thinks I'm absolutely nuts, as I told the fabricator to work around the dimensions of the G5/30-inch setup. To quote Dr. Evil, "It's breathtaking!"...

Here is a quote from a future 60" SXRD owner, just though I'd post it because it made me giggle.


"As promised for all those who have been wondering about entertainment centers / stands for this MONSTEROUS BEAST, you can all see what I've setup in anticipation for my TV."

pay no attention to the man behind the curtain (Zechman)
You know, you cut down a box and put it in the window ONCE, and it follows you for the rest of your life . . . .

--Dwayne

Here is a quote from a future 60" SXRD owner, just though I'd post it because it made me giggle.


"As promised for all those who have been wondering about entertainment centers / stands for this MONSTEROUS BEAST, you can all see what I've setup in anticipation for my TV."
Are they still complaining about the side speakers over there? :p

--Dwayne

Are they still complaining about the side speakers over there? :p


Neverending man! Now there's some sort of conspiracy theory about how come other dealers were able to get the TVs before other dealers did, including Sonystyle.

There's also some debate about what is marked on the side of the box, "Made in Japan" or "Manufactured in the US". LOL :D

There's also some debate about what is marked on the side of the box, "Made in Japan" or "Manufactured in the US". LOL :D
So I guess it would just be rubbing it in to tell them how the side of the Qualia says "Insert speaker tab here" . . . ? :D

--Dwayne

BenDover, I am SOOOOOO glad to hear you say that. I was kind of concerned that people were suggesting feeding the set the 480 signal. I mean I know Sony put some good electronics into their Q006, but what's the point of HDMI and $1K+ DVD player with a 1080i output if you aren't really using it?

Would you say a well mastered DVD over the 1080i HDMI approaches looking like an HD signal or is it obviously not even close?


I though my last statement answered that ;)

"It truly is spectacular. The uninitiated don't even know that they are watching a DVD!"

So I guess it would just be rubbing it in to tell them how the side of the Qualia says "Insert speaker tab here" . . . ? :D

--Dwayne


Too Funny Dwayne, :D

Does provide an opportunity for an aftermarket modification. Buzzzzz....(sound of saw ripping through plastic, wires, nerves..)

New bulb is on the way!
(As MotorMouth777 would say, "Where the Hell is that bulb?" ;) )

It’s crossing the Pacific from Asia the same route Motor’s 006 used…..

Just a smaller boat for the bulb……….
http://www.stevproj.com/Carz/HyFlier5.jpeg

Ah, the good ole days !

Must . . . catch . . . up . . . to . . . kaduku, . . . brt3, . . . and BenDover! :p

--Dwayne
Folks, I smell a dark horse here battling for the 2nd spot. :D

Quote:
Originally Posted by MotorMouth777
Phew...........Lamp in and I am much better now


Does this mean that you have forgiven Sony and will re-consider the SXRD 50" or 60" again

__________________


Out of principle I should buy something else first.......... But as you know, I have no sense of principles....and that way my other senses are enhanced.


I guess every 70 inch Qualia needs a SXRD mini-me. And as the little green guy says..........Always two there are..........a master and an apprentice.



Hey anyone know how I can determine how many hours were on the last bulb....... Will be interesting to find out.

I did go a little psycho but damn......
thx
Not really, that's just the ole MotorMouth that we know and love...and missed. :D

Quote:
Hey anyone know how I can determine how many hours were on the last bulb....... Will be interesting to find out.
Zech posted awhile back the super secret method via (brt's secret method) to get the bulb hours....I think :confused:
But for you my friend, since you've already changed the bulb, me thinks the horse has left the corral.

Wouldn't it make sense that these things reset to zero when you put in a new bulb?

Quote:
Originally Posted by MotorMouth777
I guess every 70 inch Qualia needs a SXRD mini-me. And as the little green guy says..........Always two there are..........a master and an apprentice.


Interesting point MotorMouth777. Well, Dive Dude, is Mini Dive going to be getting his own SXRD television to watch???

I though my last statement answered that ;)

"It truly is spectacular. The uninitiated don't even know that they are watching a DVD!"

Yes, but then Penton-Man said:

"Not even close.

The best HD that I get (via cable) is the HD PBS channel.
Tune into that and then flick over to your DVD."

However, I don't think Penton-Man has the Denon DVD-3910, so maybe it isn't a fair comparison...

I have the Sony 975 and guests frequently think they're watching HD. By the way, I feed the Q006 1080i over HDMI from the Sony DVD :cool:

Since there's a horse race that I'm not a part of, just thought I'd celebrate a mini-milestone and make this my 450th post.

Cheers!

I have the Sony 975 and guests frequently think they're watching HD. By the way, I feed the Q006 1080i over HDMI from the Sony DVD :cool:

Ah, so we have yet another person say they use HDMI and 1080i. Did you try component or 480p and decide HDMI and 1080i looked the best?

What brand of HDMI cable are people using on their Qualia?

Well, Dive Dude, is Mini Dive going to be getting his own SXRD television to watch???

jb007,

That's the first thing on his list as soon as his numbers come in . . .

. . . and this one makes TEN! A new record!!!
--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)


Zechman,

At the rate you going, I am going to be healed in no time :cool: You said you were hoping to use your 300th post to congratulate me on my recovery. Don't slow down buddy, I'll try to catch up :D :D

Ah, so we have yet another person say they use HDMI and 1080i. Did you try component or 480p and decide HDMI and 1080i looked the best?

What brand of HDMI cable are people using on their Qualia?

Marco99,
I have a Sony 975 just like jb007 has. I tried all the options and thought HDMI at 1080i looked the best. I use Monster Cable HDMI (HDMI400-2M). I use the same cable from my TIVO 250 HD.

I've got a number of cables in the mix, both DVI and HDMI as well as some HDMI/DVI. Brands are L-Com and RamElectronics, or are they Blue Jeans...hmmm, can't remember :) That is when I was on a tear and buying up all sorts of stuff my basement media room.

As for PM's preference for PBS, I have to say that my PBS feed has awful macroblocking as well; it used to be pristine and then they must have done something...for the worse!

1080i from my 3910 via HDMI is darn near close to native 1080i, but again, as I qualified earlier, "to the uninitiated" ;)

Since there's a horse race that I'm not a part of, just thought I'd celebrate a mini-milestone and make this my 450th post.

Cheers!
Who-Ray !

Congrats to our founder :)
I hope many more to come.

Marco,
I’ve got a Panny S-97 player which is no where as good as BenDover’s player. So he may be getting something much closer to HD than me.

It also depends on the film transfer of the DVD – so that’s another factor – and I haven’t really looked at more than about 15 DVD’s on my Qualia 006 ….maybe 20 at most.

However, of the DVD’s I’ve watched, none of them compare to PBS or Discovery. With those channels from my cable company, I feel that the people or birds or piazza (yesterday on PBS) are right there in my home theater room and the DVDs---although excellent are not quite as detailed or crystal clear.

I’ve tried 480i over component and 1080i over HDMI to my 006 and there really is only a slight difference with *I think* 480i over component looking better.

Marco,
I’ve got a Panny S-97 player which is no where as good as BenDover’s player. So he may be getting something much closer to HD than me.

It also depends on the film transfer of the DVD – so that’s another factor – and I haven’t really looked at more than about 15 DVD’s on my Qualia 006 ….maybe 20 at most.

However, of the DVD’s I’ve watched, none of them compare to PBS or Discovery. With those channels from my cable company, I feel that the people or birds or piazza (yesterday on PBS) are right there in my home theater room and the DVDs---although excellent are not quite as detailed or crystal clear.

I’ve tried 480i over component and 1080i over HDMI to my 006 and there really is only a slight difference with *I think* 480i over component looking better.

I'm kind of surprised you haven't watched very many DVD's on your Qualia and home theater. Do you have HD Tivo or something for watching stuff "On Demand" or something? I just can't always watch what's on TV, so I find myself watching a fair number of DVD's. I am also not that impressed with the signal quality I get from Comcast on their Digital High Def cable box. Is their a discussion group for which brand and model of cable box works best for which company or region?

While I wait for 60" SXRD delivery - I'd like to identify some good recommendations for a "highly compatible" DVD player to marry with the 60". Does it make sense to invest heavily ($1000.00) for DVD player today OR stay in the $300. range in anticipation of new technology around holiday time?

Oppo
Sony 975
Pany s-97
Other (Denon)

Most people here (myself included) are holding off for a future Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player and not investing in a "good" DVD yet yet.

That said, quite a few of those (myself not included) have picked up the Sony 975, which is relatively inexpensive but still has HDMI and can pass 480i via HDMI--a rare quality.

--Dwayne

I regret to inform my fellow Qualians that your humble historian has made an error.

The thread record for most consecutive posts actually belongs to kanebear, who made 13 consecutive posts on the bottom half of page 194, starting here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5625273&&#post5625273).

. . . which also means that I don't hold the record now, either, and never did. :(

Carry on.

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)

Folks, I smell a dark horse here battling for the 2nd spot. :D
According to my count, I'm currently in 7th place, behind mpsan and colortv, with nhey, jb007, and sparkysj all about 50 posts behind me. :cool:

Any other statistics you folks are interested in?

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)

According to my count, I'm currently in 7th place, behind mpsan and colortv, with nhey, jb007, and sparkysj all about 50 posts behind me. :cool:

Any other statistics you folks are interested in?

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)


How large is the universe? :D

Our official historian is #7 currently, with 283 posts. Just above him with 317 posts is colorTV, our long lost (and I'm sure very busy with the new TV season) friend who has not posted since . . . since . . . Dwayne, when was the last time colorTV posted here? <jb007 checks with the Official Qualia 006 Historian>

While I wait for 60" SXRD delivery - I'd like to identify some good recommendations for a "highly compatible" DVD player to marry with the 60". Does it make sense to invest heavily ($1000.00) for DVD player today OR stay in the $300. range in anticipation of new technology around holiday time?

Oppo
Sony 975
Pany s-97
Other (Denon)

Congratulations on your purchase. I have a Denon 3910 paired with my Q. I bought this player because I knew that HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players wouldn't be around yet til 2006 (hopefully), but at this point I would really wait. Now if you have money to burn and can't wait to really (I mean really) enjoy your new SXRD, then watching DVDs on the high end players really do make a difference. IMHO :)

Any other statistics you folks are interested in?
--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)
What... is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow???

Quotes from the SXRD Thread

Quote 1

"With Sears, you call and report the failure. They send out a repairman to replace the lamp. Upside is that you don't have to do it yourself. Downside is that I'm sure it takes a couple days to get it done."

Quote 2

"Based on my experience, it will be more like a week or more. Sears has become very bad when it comes to prompt service calls. I called them to fix my Kenmore dryer a while back and they said it would take ten days. There was no way we could go ten days without a dryer, so I called a local independent repairman. He came out later that same day."

____________________________________________________________ ___

Would anyone of you guys let a Sears repairman touch your TV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Especially something so freakin easy to do! :D

I called Montgomery Wards to assist with the completion of my home theater set-up (insertion of the grounded power cable into the proper receptacle on the rear of my display unit). They told me it would be 72 hours before they could send someone out, and even then, there was no guarantee they could finish the job. So, I plugged in the Q006 myself and 9 months later I'm still enjoying Q vision without any problems :D

Most people here (myself included) are holding off for a future Blu-Ray or HD-DVD player and not investing in a "good" DVD yet yet. That said, quite a few of those (myself not included) have picked up the Sony 975, which is relatively inexpensive but still has HDMI and can pass 480i via HDMI--a rare quality. --Dwayne
There are, however, the perverse amongst us (with large DVD collections) who are scheming to add external processors, thus creating a picture so superb that we rarely leave home. We like the idea of 480i via HDMI, as it gives us an elusive grail to shoot for using something like...

The Algolith Dragonfly! (http://www.algolith.com/index.php?id=137)

This would be truly perverse in light of the imminent arrival of BluRay -- but that leaves us (still) with the problem of nasty PQ in material delivered by cable, satellite, or OTA broadcast. Some of us (nutcases, mostly) are actually considering adding a SECOND external processor to totally eradicate all video nasties, and give us a picture that's as addictive as rock cocaine and Twinkies® combined... using something like...

The Algolith Mosquito! (http://www.algolith.com/index.php?id=mosquito_hdmi)

That being said, the Sony 975 is a good unit, passes 480i via HDMI, but has some reliability problems. The Pioneer DV-59AVi also passes 480i/HDMI, is built like a brick you-know-what, and is being replaced by the DV-79AVi -- meaning you should be able to find some good deals on one. The other players that will pass 480i via HDMI are the Arcam DV-79, and the aforementioned Pioneer. Expensive, but very good transports for the Algolith bug(s).

Why the fixation with 480i via HDMI? The processor in the Qualia does a very good job, and is better than the one in most DVD players. Thus, you get the best picture by feeding the set an unprocessed (480i) picture that is as pure as the driven snow (HDMI), at which point you let the Sony (Q006) process the iimage for display at its' native resolution.

That being said, I'm unsure as to the quality of the processing in the SXRD "babies"...

Any other statistics you folks are interested in?
How about a chart showing the top ten posters in order of number of words posted?

Descending order is, of course, preferred...
:D

FYI for those of you pondering trying out SLI with dual 7800 gtx (and the nvidia 16 bit bus) its a no go :(. I bought the new Dell XPS 600 with all the bells and whistles but it will only do 1080i with single GPU mode once I click over to SLI it bombs out. It will work at 720P in SLI mode but bah who wants that low res crud :(. Shame that Zechman didn't have any luck on getting the firewire out on PC to work would have maybe saved the day for now my DVI out just isn't cooperating (using MCE2005 and tried all combos of beta drivers XP drivers and MCE drivers from NVIDIA).

There are, however, the perverse amongst us (with large DVD collections) who are scheming to add external processors, thus creating a picture so superb that we rarely leave home. We like the idea of 480i via HDMI, as it gives us an elusive grail to shoot for using something like...

The Algolith Dragonfly! (http://www.algolith.com/index.php?id=137)

This would be truly perverse in light of the imminent arrival of BluRay -- but that leaves us (still) with the problem of nasty PQ in material delivered by cable, satellite, or OTA broadcast. Some of us (nutcases, mostly) are actuall considering adding a SECOND external processor to totally eradicate all video nasties, and give us a picture that's as addictive as rock cocaine and Twinkies® combined... using something like...

The Algolith Mosquito! (http://www.algolith.com/index.php?id=mosquito_hdmi)

That being said, the Sony 975 is a good unit, passes 480i via HDMI, but has some reliability problems. The Pioneer DV-59AVi also passes 480i/HDMI, is built like a brick you-know-what, and is being replaced by the DV-79AVi -- meaning you should be able to find some good deals on one. The other players that will pass 480i via HDMI are the Arcam DV-79, and the aforementioned Pioneer. Expensive, but very good transports for the Algolith bug(s).

Why the fixation with 480i via HDMI? The processor in the Qualia does a very good job, and is better than the one in most DVD players. Thus, you get the best picture by feeding the set an unprocessed (480i) picture that is as pure as the driven snow (HDMI), at which point you let the Sony (Q006) process the iimage for display at its' native resolution.
.
Nice speech.

Now we await your detailed evaluation with baited breath and wives primed for another extravagant video purchase – if indeed worthwhile. :)

Nice speech. Now we await your detailed evaluation with baited breath and wives primed for another extravagant video purchase – if indeed worthwhile. :) Now all I have to do is somehow have my doctor coordinate things with Algolith so that my double-arthroscopic surgery (both knees at once!) takes place the day after my Dragonfly/Mosquito combo arrives. That would give me something to keep busy with during the first week of rehab...
:D

How large is the universe? :D
In the context of this thread, the Universe is 253 pages long, at the current AVS defaults. ;)

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)

Our official historian is #7 currently, with 283 posts. Just above him with 317 posts is colorTV, our long lost (and I'm sure very busy with the new TV season) friend who has not posted since . . . since . . . Dwayne, when was the last time colorTV posted here? <jb007 checks with the Official Qualia 006 Historian>

Didn't I already say that? ;)

colortv's last post is found here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5531649&&#post5531649), on page 165 (atCAVSD) from 04-25-2005.

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)

What... is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow???
African or European?

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)

African or European?
I refuse to answer on the grounds that it might result in me being hurled into "The Gorge Of Eternal Peril"...

Running away, eh? :eek:

Right! I'll do you for that!

--Dwayne
:D :D :D

How about a chart showing the top ten posters in order of number of words posted?

Descending order is, of course, preferred...
:D
Oh, so you wanna throw down with the Official Historian, do ya? :eek:

Here you go:

Penton-Man: 112164
brt3: 61295
colortv: 58358
kaduku: 50409
BenDover: 48620
mpsan: 40478
Zechman: 38926
nhey: 37222
jb007: 26257
Dilbert1: 19063

(Looks like I'm still in 7th place.)

For statistical purposes, a "word" is consecutive non-space characters.

This includes the words of others when someone quotes someone else. I tried to remove that, but the board doesn't define the beginning and ending of a quote very well, often not defining the end of a quote at all. So I had to leave them in.

Some other notables: (at least to me)

#23 - umr: 7123
#28 - sycore: 4717 (Telling us we should wait for LG)
#42 - Artwood: 2467
#50 - Bill: 1815 (Telling us his 73" Mits is better)
#115 - rogo: 443
#199 - DocDVD: 84
#206 - WOLVERNOLE: 72 (A friend I.R.L.)
#208 - zachman: 69 (No relation :) )
#247 - audiomagnate: 10 (dead last- the least verbose poster of them all.)

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)

P.S. Last chance, DiveDude!

Oh, so you wanna throw down with the Official Historian, do ya? :eek:

Here you go:

Penton-Man: 112164
brt3: 61295
colortv: 58358
kaduku: 50409
BenDover: 48620
mpsan: 40478
Zechman: 38926
nhey: 37222
jb007: 26257
Dilbert1: 19063

(Looks like I'm still in 7th place.)

For statistical purposes, a "word" is consecutive non-space characters.

This includes the words of others when someone quotes someone else. I tried to remove that, but the board doesn't define the beginning and ending of a quote very well, often not defining the end of a quote at all. So I had to leave them in.

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)



Are you on vacation or something? cuz it looks like you have alot of time on your hands. lol

Now all I have to do is somehow have my doctor coordinate things with Algolith so that my double-arthroscopic surgery (both knees at once!) takes place the day after my Dragonfly/Mosquito combo arrives. That would give me something to keep busy with during the first week of rehab...
:D


Geeze, what is it with you guys. Buy a 006 and start falling apart within a few months. :D

Just kidding with you. Wish you the best on your surgery. :)

Geeze, what is it with you guys. Buy a 006 and start falling apart within a few months. :D Just kidding with you. Wish you the best on your surgery. :) I guess our Qualias are somehow interfering with our exercise programs; I know I'm not getting irradiated by sitting too close (thanks for that one, Mom). Either that or I'm closer to geezer-dom than I initially thought...

Seriously, I've got it pretty easy -- on the DiveDude scale this ranks as the sniffles. Penton-Man will enjoy the fact that I tore my medial meniscus (cartilage in the knee) chasing Elmo The WonderDog®. Damn dog just LOVES to be chased... The other knee needs cleaning up inside to prevent me from being arthritic down the road. The doc that's doing the work looks to be pretty good, based on other doctors' opinions and the number of times his name comes up when Googling "knee" and "cartilage". Never been to a doctor who has an entire wall filled up with framed patents...

Running away, eh? :eek:
Right! I'll do you for that!
Pythonesque thread hijack! Seriously, though -- anyone who's ever been caught saying "Nih!" should get to NYC and see "Spamalot". So good I've seen it twice...

Now all I have to do is somehow have my doctor coordinate things with Algolith so that my double-arthroscopic surgery (both knees at once!) takes place the day after my Dragonfly/Mosquito combo arrives. That would give me something to keep busy with during the first week of rehab...
:D
In case you need a second opinion :eek: :eek: , this guy is considered a *cut* or *scope* above.
http://orthosurg.ucsf.edu/faculty/cannon.html

And if you prefer the female persuasion :D …..so are -----

http://orthosurg.ucsf.edu/faculty/allen.html
http://www.drlanderson.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=ph.detail&physicianid=102

Penton-Man will enjoy the fact that I tore my medial meniscus (cartilage in the knee) chasing Elmo The WonderDog®.
Don't you just luv it when your both at full speed......and he cuts right in front of you and takes you out at the knees. :eek:

"Illegal block - Clipping - 15 yards AND Artho surgery....Date to be Determined"

Yup, happened to me too. :)

Don't you just luv it when your both at full speed......and he cuts right in front of you and takes you out at the knees. :eek:

"Illegal block - Clipping - 15 yards AND Artho surgery....Date to be Determined"

Yup, happened to me too. :)
Rhodesian Ridgebacks are NOTORIOUS side-swipers. In this case I didn't get side-swiped; I "cut" and my knee didn't. Oddly enough, about three weeks later (I keep putting off my surgery) he side-swiped me hard enough -- on the opposite knee -- that I initially thought he'd injured that one too just to make my limp perfectly symmetrical. 130 pounds of dog will do that to you...

Hey, thanks for the good references; here's my guy. (http://www.stoneclinic.com/krscv.htm)

Forgive a uninformed question: what inputs (HD video, 5.1 audio) on the 006 should I use to connect an Xbox 360? (I'm using an external receiver/speakers.)

Any other comments on using a gaming console and especially an Xbox 360 (in store date: Nov. 22) with an 006 much appreciated.

PS: My last gaming coming console was a Mattel Intellivision!

Forgive a uninformed question: what inputs (HD video, 5.1 audio) on the 006 should I use to connect an Xbox 360? (I'm using an external receiver/speakers.)

Any other comments on using a gaming console and especially an Xbox 360 (in store date: Nov. 22) with an 006 much appreciated.

PS: My last gaming coming console was a Mattel Intellivision!

I would go with optical (fiber optics) for the audio and component cables for the video. That is the setup I have now with my Xbox and will assume that it will be the same for the 360.

P.S. Last chance, DiveDude!


Zechman,

Maybe a miracle is occurring at this very moment :) (or maybe we will go for 350 or 400) ;)

I have one for the official historian, who has posted the most attached images (pictures) on this thread :D

I don't know who ????????????

Would that be thou?..........or is MiniDive a very vain fellow and is posting them himself? :confused:

Hey, thanks for the good references; here's my guy. (http://www.stoneclinic.com/krscv.htm)
Fellow in Knee Surgery and Sports Medicine 1986-1987
Under J. Richard Steadman, M.D.-----------------da MAN ! :)

Resident 1983-1986
Combined Orthopaedic Residency Program
Harvard University ---------------------da PLACE ! :)

Sounds like an excellent choice !

I think he also Qualifies as a Qualia elitist. Perhaps you should enlighten him into video bliss. :D

Now all I have to do is somehow have my doctor coordinate things with Algolith so that my double-arthroscopic surgery (both knees at once!) takes place the day after my Dragonfly/Mosquito combo arrives. That would give me something to keep busy with during the first week of rehab...
:D


brt3,
If your "bugs" arrive after your surgery, maybe you can get Elmo to help with the setup and tweaking. :D The best of luck and a speedy recovery. The 006 is an excellent nurse.

I did not think I was ahead of anyone.

BTW, re: the 975 that I have. I think it does a great job on DVD's I get from Netflix.

I am surprised, however. I have Comcast and PBS-HD is hit or miss. DiscoveryHD is usually the best with INHD a close second.

However, I was on the phone talking to Comcast about our 6.6MB internet speed update and the guy offerred us 3 months of HBO...all channels including HBO-HD, for $1 a month. That is only 10% of a piece of PM paper. We recorded I, Robot a few nights ago on the 6412.

WOW, that was one of the best the Q has ever shown! Even my wife said it looked like 3D!

Dave



According to my count, I'm currently in 7th place, behind mpsan and colortv, with nhey, jb007, and sparkysj all about 50 posts behind me. :cool:

Any other statistics you folks are interested in?

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)

brt3 -- If your "bugs" arrive after your surgery, maybe you can get Elmo to help with the setup and tweaking. :D The best of luck and a speedy recovery. The 006 is an excellent nurse.
DiveDude -- Thanks for the good thoughts! I'm thinking this should be cake compared to my blown (and I mean TOTALLY blown!) Achilles tendon (now healed) -- now THAT hurt...
:eek:

Penton-Man -- thanks for the PM Seal Of Approval on the doc; really, that is good to know. I had both knees scoped nearly twenty years back -- by a highly regarded doc -- and it was a mess! So, all these good things make me feel a lot better...
:D

(Sorry if it sounds as though I need a walker)

Post #300!!! Hooray!!!

So listen up, lords and ladies, because we have a lot of ground to cover.


First up, best wishes and a great big Hang In There to our long-time friend DiveDude. We're always glad to hear you checking in with news of your progress, and even gladder to hear that it's been so positive the last few times you've mentioned it. Your pictures of Mini-Dive are an adorable touch that set this thread apart, and I can't imagine it without them (and I miss all those earlier posts that are now gone forever).

Speaking of pictures: When you do "Download This Thread" under "Thread Tools", the resulting file doesn't contain signatures or any references at all about attachments, so there's no way I can ranks posters by number of pictures using that file as input. But I'm a clever chap--I'll figure something out. :cool:

--

Since past centennial posts have been focused on DiveDude, it seems appropriate (and timely) to say Best Wishes to a friend we've known even a little longer, brt3. Ray, your website has been an invaluable tool for keeping track of all sorts of Qualia information in one easy-to-find place, and yet another thing that sets this thread apart. It's a great example of the bond we share from the shared experience of owning this fabulous TV--it inspires us to want help out our fellow Qualia brothers and sisters any way we can to ensure that the experience is just that much better (not to mention persuade those who are rightfully skeptical that the experience really is worth the price of entry).

But even with that, some things in life, like chasing the dog, are more important that any TV could ever be. So here's to a Speedy recovery. Stay in touch, friend.

Oh, and I now only say "Icky Icky Icky Patang Niiwoom!"

Are you on vacation or something? cuz it looks like you have alot of time on your hands. lol
Nope. I'm just really really really good at quickly cooking up computer programs to do this kind of thing. (Perl is my weapon of choice, BTW). Seriously.

--

gellis: Agree completely with kaduku. I do exactly the same thing with my XBox now. The only thing I'll add is make sure to use "Direct" mode on the component input you use to avoid video delay and keep good sound sync. AFAIK, the 360 won't have a DVI or HDMI output.

--

mpsan: I, Robot is also one of my favorite D-Theater movies (not that I own very many of them) because IMHO the crisp CGI benefits from the HD and the higher bitrate more than regular footage. And I, Robot is just dripping with CGI!!!

--

So I got my Mac. It's a Mac Mini, which uses a laptop-style hard drive, so out-of-the-box it paused the same way the PowerBook that I first tried did.

But this time around I had downloaded one of the 1080p30 WMV files from the Microsoft site and used a program called BoilSoft ASF converter to convert the file into MPEG-2.

And it played back just fine on the Qualia 006.

So,

HERE YE, HERE YE, QUALIA OWNERS ACROSS THE LAND!!!
(and probably GW SXRD owners, too)

YOUR TELEVISION CAN DISPLAY 1080P VIA I.LINK!!!

So get your bad selves a Blu-Ray player when they come out and enjoy!!!

(I'll be looking into this even more throughout the fall making sure I have not made an error along the way, including trying out 1080p24 which has yet to be tested.)

That is all.

Penton-Man: Does this jibe with what your friends at Sony have told you?

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)
(Official Champion of 1080P on the Qualia 006)

HERE YE, HERE YE, QUALIA OWNERS ACROSS THE LAND!!!
(and probably GW SXRD owners, too)

YOUR TELEVISION CAN DISPLAY 1080P VIA I.LINK!!!

So get your bad selves a Blu-Ray player when they come out and enjoy!!!



Great news, Good Job Zechman! :D

I'm seeing graininess in dark areas from DVD and HD sources in many cases. Solid blacks usually look great as do brightly lit scenes.

Appreciate any ideas on what might be causing this. Thanks!

I'm seeing graininess in dark areas from DVD and HD sources in many cases. Solid blacks usually look great as do brightly lit scenes.

Appreciate any ideas on what might be causing this. Thanks!

More than likely DVD transfer and HD source!

So I got my Mac. It's a Mac Mini, which uses a laptop-style hard drive, so out-of-the-box it paused the same way the PowerBook that I first tried did.

But this time around I had downloaded one of the 1080p30 WMV files from the Microsoft site and used a program called BoilSoft ASF converter to convert the file into MPEG-2.

And it played back just fine on the Qualia 006.



So how was the picture quality? Any big difference?

Three woots for Zechman! Please let us know if by any amazing chance you are able to get a PC solution that does it. After all the insane amount of time I have been following this thread (and the previous "People who Really Want a Qualia but Sony hasn't yet released it yet" thread) I had pretty much given up on 1080P (despite the claims from some that they had seen a Sony demo with 1080P input).

It is great that we can finally get to enjoy that (well ok it may be AWHILE the way the format war is going). What a relief that I won't have to feel gipped when I hear the latest TVs accepting 1080P and knowing that our um hmm how do I put it.... less than beloved Qualia brand (grr Sony What were you thinking dumping the crown jewel!!!) was unlikely to be given any upgrade lovin.

Ray, your website has been an invaluable tool for keeping track of all sorts of Qualia information in one easy-to-find place, and yet another thing that sets this thread apart.

So I got my Mac. It's a Mac Mini, which uses a laptop-style hard drive, so out-of-the-box it paused the same way the PowerBook that I first tried did. But this time around I had downloaded one of the 1080p30 WMV files from the Microsoft site and used a program called BoilSoft ASF converter to convert the file into MPEG-2.

And it played back just fine on the Qualia 006.

So,... YOUR TELEVISION CAN DISPLAY 1080P VIA I.LINK!!!
Dwayne...

First off, thanks for the kind words. Though I have much information waiting to be posted to my site -- and thus feel typical Protestant guilt at my neglect/lack of updates to site -- it is very nice to hear positive words. I like knowing that my site is a helpful resource, and would really appreciate anyone's advice on things that might be added. Right now I'd like to get the entire service manual posted, update the review section with new reviews that are out, and get some fantastic night-time screenshots posted...

Regarding 1080P (of ANY variety) on the Q006: "Draayynnee... Eyehh loughfff yeewww, Maayunn!!! (said in Foster Brooks style drunken stupor...)

This is very, very interesting stuff -- great detective work! On the Mac issue let me see if I understand you. As I have found out, it takes a lot of processing horsepower to get smooth HD playback on the Mac. It sounds like you would have the same problem with the Mac Mini, so you are compressing the HD stream via MPEG-2 to enable the Mini to handle the playback issue (along with making the file size more manageable)?

Speaking as someone with access to 2+ terabytes of storage on my home network (don't ask!), your work has powerful implications for my desire to add video to my high-quality audio and backup data NAS server...

This place just keeps on getting better and better :p

I'm seeing graininess in dark areas from DVD and HD sources in many cases. Solid blacks usually look great as do brightly lit scenes.

Appreciate any ideas on what might be causing this. Thanks!

I've made a career out of trying to understand this 'graininess' issue.

The sad fact is that there is great variance in graininess program
to program. On CBS, there is no graininess at all on
Still Standing, Yes Dear, How I Met Your Mother. All other CBS progs
are grainy to some extent or the other.
On NBC, the worst is "Crossing Jordan", and all have some
graininess with one noteable exception, "The Offfice" which
is actually a reality show although it isn't labeled as such.
The Office uses a HD video cam as opposed to Optical Media
transfer so there is no post processing that can lead to video noise/graininess that ruins an otherwise superb presentation.
The Office is by far the absolute best PQ in primetime, so use it as the
'gold standard' to check for graininess. If you see graininess on the office, then there is something wrong on your end. You can also use the above three
CBS progs even though they are shot on optical media, they are completely graininess-free.

Zechman,

You have secured your place in the Qualia Hall of Fame, with a dedicated "Zechman Wing." I can think of at least 4 or 5 more who are worthy candidates, all of whom no doubt breeze in on the first ballot.

I am not worthy, but extremely grateful for the thread. And I also can be counted on to overnight a spare bulb out of my stash to anyone with an emergency need.

Post #300!!! Hooray!!!

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)
(Official Champion of 1080P on the Qualia 006)
Congrats on the milestone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And a truly thoughtfully composed post to celebrate the occasion. :)

Post #300!!! Hooray!!!

First up, best wishes and a great big Hang In There to our long-time friend DiveDude. We're always glad to hear you checking in with news of your progress, and even gladder to hear that it's been so positive the last few times you've mentioned it. Your pictures of Mini-Dive are an adorable touch that set this thread apart, and I can't imagine it without them --Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)
(Official Champion of 1080P on the Qualia 006)
AMEN to that brother! :)

Post #300!!! Hooray!!!

Ray, your website has been an invaluable tool for keeping track of all sorts of Qualia information in one easy-to-find place, and yet another thing that sets this thread apart.

Our reference source extraordinaire !!!!!!

Penton-Man: Does this jibe with what your friends at Sony have told you?

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)
(Official Champion of 1080P on the Qualia 006)
Dwayne,
All I know is that the Blu-ray prototypes that I have seen and that they have talked about output 1080i.

But that knowledge now is several months old. In fact, the Blu-ray originally was supposed to debut around the end of this year but got pushed back to March 2006 basically because they were still working on getting the encryption stuff correct.

I wanted to drive up to Culver City and play with the Blu-ray that they had hooked up to their 006 (via HDMI) and connect an i.Link cable to it to see if you could get menus and such displayed on the 006’s screen because jb007 was very interested in this.

I never got up there….so I sent an e-mail to them Re.- the Blu-ray to Qualia 006 hook-up via i.Link and I got a brief reply back from someone in the Blu-ray dept. --who I don’t think was an actual engineer.

She said something to the effect that……
i.Link output is the pure MPEG signal--meaning that there are no user-interface overlays i.e. no user interface graphics background.

Regarding iLlink for commercial Blu Ray movies, etc. I'm not surprised that i Link could handle a 1080p signal and decompress MPEG2 . However, I will be surprised if i Link will handle any encryption required for commercial movies that are put on any HI def DVD.

who can solve this? i was watching a b/w movie on hd the other day on the Q. my eyes were being pulled to the bottom left of the screen for some reason. something not right? i kept my eyes focused on the corner and oh my god, is that misconvergence i'm seeing? i saw a purple haze when certain bright scenes were displayed. like the magnet to the crt screen symptom but not as intense. i changed channels to other colored hd/sd . now i can see it when bright pastel like images are shown. especially light brown sand or leaves. i have purple in my brown! i have spent the last 3 days trying to solve this. i tried almost everything i can think of to solve this problem thinking it was from an external influence. anyone care to take a stab at what caused this. i just solved it 1 hour ago. you to might have the same problem. check it out on a b/w hd image or gray side bars will do.

Regarding iLlink for commercial Blu Ray movies, etc. I'm not surprised that i Link could handle a 1080p signal and decompress MPEG2 . However, I will be surprised if i Link will handle any encryption required for commercial movies that are put on any HI def DVD.If blu-ray allows firewire output, I'm sure it will utilize 5C for content protection. If I'm not mistaken, the Qualia supports 5C otherwise it would not display D-Theater via i.LINK.

My Sony dealer tells me that both Blu-ray and PS3 will be able to output 1080I. So, the utility of having a 1080P input into our Qualias is to avoid the de-interlacing/processing to native rate. Great. Am I mistaken, or is the final piece, for the near future, getting a future 1080P/60 source to play?

I finally saw another 1080p set at Magnolia. It was a Samsung and a Mits. Maybe it was the source or settings, but I was not impressed at all. If fact, they didn't looked any different from the rest of the older sets in the store.

BTW, Robots looked awesome on the Q!

I've made a career out of trying to understand this 'graininess' issue.

The sad fact is that there is great variance in graininess program
to program. On CBS, there is no graininess at all on
Still Standing, Yes Dear, How I Met Your Mother. All other CBS progs
are grainy to some extent or the other.
On NBC, the worst is "Crossing Jordan", and all have some
graininess with one noteable exception, "The Offfice" which
is actually a reality show although it isn't labeled as such.
The Office uses a HD video cam as opposed to Optical Media
transfer so there is no post processing that can lead to video noise/graininess that ruins an otherwise superb presentation.
The Office is by far the absolute best PQ in primetime, so use it as the
'gold standard' to check for graininess. If you see graininess on the office, then there is something wrong on your end. You can also use the above three
CBS progs even though they are shot on optical media, they are completely graininess-free.
You’re right, the difference between HD programming that I can see on my 006 is amazing. I haven’t watched The Office and may well now do just to see the imaging. I suspect the Tonight Show with Jan Leno and Letterman’s show would also be using HD video cams, would they not?

On the other hand, I wonder how much of gellis’s described graininess in dark areas from DVD and HD sources is noise that could be corrected by the Mosquito????????

I've made a career out of trying to understand this 'graininess' issue.

The Office uses a HD video cam as opposed to Optical Media
transfer so there is no post processing that can lead to video noise/graininess that ruins an otherwise superb presentation.
You can also use the above three
CBS progs even though they are shot on optical media, they are completely graininess-free.

So, are you saying that the Optical Media Method is not inherently inferior to HD video cams ?……It is just more susceptible to human error post-fiddling ????????????????????

If blu-ray allows firewire output,
Yes, even the early prototypes have it. :)

I wanted to clear something up. A new SXRD owner is claiming burnin on his set. Apparently his kid left an Elmo video on. He said that it went away after a while. Also, there are reports of SSE or ghosting on white area of scenes like hats, text, etc. I was wondering if anyone here has had similiar sightings with there sets since the tech is so similiar?

Thanks in advance

PM, re your Sony contact reply concerning on screen displays, OSD, my understanding is that the response is correct; i.e., the i.Link/1394 standard does not support menus, etc.

I wanted to clear something up. A new SXRD owner is claiming burnin on his set. Apparently his kid left an Elmo video on. He said that it went away after a while. Also, there are reports of SSE or ghosting on white area of scenes like hats, text, etc. I was wondering if anyone here has had similiar sightings with there sets since the tech is so similiar?

Thanks in advance

I won't touch the SSE, I don't want to invite the usual cast of characters to reopen their debate here...

As far as ghosting, I've never seen it on my Q006. Frankly, it doesn't even make much sense on the new GW SXRD sets since their SXRD chips spec better than the chips in the Q006 wrt response time.

BenDover

Think we may have a difference in what people are calling "ghosting".

Over in the SXRD forum, I think it has to do with a glow around an object, where elsewhere its a trailing image on moving objects.

BenDover

Think we may have a difference in what people are calling "ghosting".

Over in the SXRD forum, I think it has to do with a glow around an object, where elsewhere its a trailing image on moving objects.

Ah, that is what I have seen referred to as haloing...I've not seen any of that either...maybe they should turn their sharpness down a bit.

BTW, Robots looked awesome on the Q!


kaduku,

Mini Dive has some new heros. He is claiming the robots are his cousins :rolleyes:

kaduku,

Mini DIve has some new heros. He is claiming the robots are his cousins :rolleyes:

LOL! Keep these coming DD! :D

Oh, so you wanna throw down with the Official Historian, do ya? :eek:

Here you go:

Penton-Man: 112164
brt3: 61295
colortv: 58358
kaduku: 50409
BenDover: 48620
mpsan: 40478
Zechman: 38926
nhey: 37222
jb007: 26257
Dilbert1: 19063

(Looks like I'm still in 7th place.)

For statistical purposes, a "word" is consecutive non-space characters.

This includes the words of others when someone quotes someone else. I tried to remove that, but the board doesn't define the beginning and ending of a quote very well, often not defining the end of a quote at all. So I had to leave them in.

Some other notables: (at least to me)

#23 - umr: 7123
#28 - sycore: 4717 (Telling us we should wait for LG)
#42 - Artwood: 2467
#50 - Bill: 1815 (Telling us his 73" Mits is better)
#115 - rogo: 443
#199 - DocDVD: 84
#206 - WOLVERNOLE: 72 (A friend I.R.L.)
#208 - zachman: 69 (No relation :) )
#247 - audiomagnate: 10 (dead last- the least verbose poster of them all.)

--Dwayne
(Official Historian of the Qualia 006 Owners' Thread)

P.S. Last chance, DiveDude!

Just checking in. It has been many months since I have looked. I had no idea I would be in 10th place here for anything. I quoted Dwayne to stay on that list for another week or so.

Has anyone noticed their picture brightness decreasing over time?

Dilbert1

Our cleaning lady knocked over one of my RDM2 speakers and broke the drivers.
I am thinking of replacing them with either Vandersteen 3a Signature or Phase Technology 9.1 towers. Any thoughts?

Regarding picture dimming - it may be I am just getting used to the bright picture rather than any real "noticable" change. I was just wondering if anyone else thought they noticed any changes. Certainly the bulb changes brightness and color temperature with time but I don't know if that would be noticable this quick. I got the set, I think, January 28 or so.

Dilbert1

Just checking in. It has been many months since I have looked. I had no idea I would be in 10th place here for anything. I quoted Dwayne to stay on that list for another week or so.

Has anyone noticed their picture brightness decreasing over time?

Dilbert1


Dilbert1,

Welcome back :) I have about 1,800 hours on my bulb and haven't noticed a decrease in brightness. I am lovin' the 006 as much as ever. :D

PS. Sorry about your speaker :eek:

Has anyone noticed their picture brightness decreasing over time?

Dilbert1
It’s sooooooo difficult to tell because theoretically the dimming should be so incremental that you become accustomed to it as the norm.

But, if I had to *guess*, yes, my picture is slighter dimmer than it was in Jan. Whispering here….still on the same bulb that came with the display….ssssshhhhhh. ;)

P.S.
I think I have many more hours on mine (purchased early in Jan.) than DiveDude does- just for clairfication purposes to your query.

Regarding picture dimming - it may be I am just getting used to the bright picture rather than any real "noticable" change. I was just wondering if anyone else thought they noticed any changes. Certainly the bulb changes brightness and color temperature with time but I don't know if that would be noticable this quick. I got the set, I think, January 28 or so.


I also bought in January and believe the picture has dimmed a little. I have a new bulb, but am trying to get as much as I can with the original bulb. I do plan to switch bulbs on my anniversary (TV, not wife) just in time for Super Bowl.

Are you sure you have nothing to do with your speakers falling down :D

Has anyone noticed their picture brightness decreasing over time?Not I...

Just this evening I can see a slight reduction in brightness as I view the screen ...






From this lousy Atlanta airport!:)

Our cleaning lady knocked over one of my RDM2 speakers and broke the drivers.
I am thinking of replacing them with either Vandersteen 3a Signature or Phase Technology 9.1 towers. Any thoughts?

Regarding picture dimming - it may be I am just getting used to the bright picture rather than any real "noticable" change. I was just wondering if anyone else thought they noticed any changes. Certainly the bulb changes brightness and color temperature with time but I don't know if that would be noticable this quick. I got the set, I think, January 28 or so.

Dilbert1Dilbert -- I've met Richard Vandersteen; he's a hell of a guy who really stands behind the speakers he makes. I think they also provide ongoing upgrades for customers.

About the brightness (or lack thereof). It would be very cool to have an ISF tech do a calibration on a set with a relatively new bulb, check the exact brightness spec, and then revisit the set a year down the road. Any takers?

Pretty cool article... (http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,69039,00.html?tw=rss.TEK)

Pretty cool article... (http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,69039,00.html?tw=rss.TEK)
Two reactions:

1) Wow. If you have a fast data network, you can apparently send large volumes of data across it. That's groundbreaking?!? :confused:
2) Bill Gates sure is getting old! :eek:

--Dwayne

P.S. Yes, I know it's not really him. :p

Congrats on the milestone !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And a truly thoughtfully composed post to celebrate the occasion. :)
And congrats on shamelessly maintaining your top poster position by responding to my one post with FOUR of your own . . . . :)

--Dwayne

who can solve this?
[...]
i just solved it 1 hour ago.

Um, so would you care to clue us in?

Or was the second sentence a typo?

--Dwayne

Judging from some of the posts and PM's I've gotten recently, there's some confusion over how i.Link works and the implications of it being able to accept 1080p.

First up, this is basically only useful for pre-recorded (or more correctly, pre-encoded) material. This is useless for a computer display or game system.

The idea here is that all i.Link does is carry pre-encoded MPEG data. This is not CPU-intensive, nor even especially bandwidth-intensive. That MPEG data is decoded by the TV itself, using the TV's internal digital tuner. It does not carry raw screen data like you get from component, DVI, or HDMI.

As mentioned, there is an optional copy-protection layer ("5C") available that the Qualia 006 does support--D-Theater DVHS decks use it and it's analagous to HDCP on DVI and HDMI. AFAIK, this encryption has not been broken like DVD's have.

You don't get menu overlays and such via i.Link from any device. In order to do this, the device would have to decode the data, add the overlays, and then re-encode. This is very computationally intensive (we computer-types say "CPU-bound") and the hardware to support it would be very expensive--not to mention that there would likely be a loss of picture quality, too.

I mentioned Blu-Ray because all pre-release information up until now (including the specs on the already-released Japanese version) indicate that it will have i.Link as well, and so if 24p-based sources (movies) can be output at 1080p24 and decoded by the TV's tuner, then we have the optimal viewing environment.

In the Mac vs. PC debate (and believe me, any other time I'm on the PC side), the problem is not getting a fast enough PC. The problem is not getting the right device drivers. The problem with a PC is that Windows XP has so many extra things going on in the background (some you can shut down, some you can't) that it can't keep up with the FireWire port every single moment over the course of 2+ hours to deal with a movie. The Mac OS can. Additionally, because Macs have included FireWire support for much longer than Windows has, the driver support is better. But drivers are not the problem. The problem is that Windows XP bears no similarity at all to what we computer-types call a "real-time operating system"*, whereas the Unix-based OS X is much closer--it's not a RTOS either, but it has enough similarity that it can consistently keep the FireWire data pipe full.

There's a lot of info in AVS' HDTV Recorders & Players forum, which is the basis of how I came to try out a MacIntosh at all.

So hopefully that clears up a few things.

--Dwayne
(Official Champion of 1080P on the Qualia 006)

* A Real-time OS does multitasking in a way that when switching tasks, threads can be guaranteed a certain minimum amount of CPU time and to be switched in for processing on a consistent, set schedule which cannot be pre-empted by other threads.

You don't get menu overlays and such via i.Link from any device. In order to do this, the device would have to decode the data, add the overlays, and then re-encode. This is very computationally intensive (we computer-types say "CPU-bound") and the hardware to support it would be very expensive--not to mention that there would likely be a loss of picture quality, too.

Mitsubishi was pushing HAVi for menu overlay. Not sure where Sony stands on that.

Two reactions:
1) Wow. If you have a fast data network, you can apparently send large volumes of data across it. That's groundbreaking?!? :confused:
2) Bill Gates sure is getting old! :eek:
P.S. Yes, I know it's not really him. :p
1) Mainly just salivating at the prospect; 4K will be the only way they'll get ME back into a theater now that I've been Qualia-fied...
2) Bill Gates -- I could've sworn that was Janet Reno!
:D

And congrats on shamelessly maintaining your top poster position by responding to my one post with FOUR of your own . . . . :)
You guys are both pretty shameless! We should coin a new phrase -- how about "post-ho"???
:p
As for me -- I will ONLY post pertinent, valid, and valuable information pertaining to the maintenance, operation, and enjoyment of the Qualia 006 (see above post)...
;)

You guys are both pretty shameless! We should coin a new phrase -- how about "post-ho"???
:p
According to my calculations, I am less than 1/6 as shameless as Penton-Man. ;)

. . . oh yeah, and HALF as shameless as you! :eek:

--Dwayne
(Junior Post-Ho)

According to my calculations, I am less than 1/6 as shameless as Penton-Man. ;) . . . oh yeah, and HALF as shameless as you! :eek: --Dwayne
(Junior Post-Ho)
So, If Penton-Man is the Grand High Post-Ho and Zechman is Junior Post-Ho what does that make me -- Shameless Intermediate Post-Ho???

So, If Penton-Man is the Grand High Post-Ho and Zechman is Junior Post-Ho what does that make me -- Shameless Intermediate Post-Ho???
Why on earth that whenever there is even a remote reference to a lady of ill-repute…..
MY name invariably seems to come up in the same post ??????????

What’s with that ?

And regarding the above, I’m surrrrrrrrrrrre glad my wife and I didn’t invite that same couple over to watch last night’s episode of ROME ! :eek:

They never would have lasted much past that opening sequence with the colorful graphics and moving drawings and such which as motormouth noted previously – look absolutely beautiful on the Q.

And speaking of the Q. In regards to the Qualia line disappearing, this is the word direct from the horse’s mouth………….

“No, Qualia's not being dropped
- until Sony figures out the full restructuring of Sony Electronics…what they are doing is postponing any new products for production. Whatever products are in the pipeline right now (Qualia 005, etc) will still be on time for shipment in Nov. etc. All current Qualia products will continue to be produced and supported, so no big blow out sales."

I mentioned before that PBS in my area (KCET - Los Angeles) looks like the best HD channel on my Adelphia cable with Discovery a close second.

Well if anyone is interested, check out the ad for Samsung in the top left hand corner of this page....it recyles an ad for Joss Stone singing in a PBS special starting Thurs. night.

I hope it's up to the same quality as I've seen in the past. :)

For everyone's convenience...............
http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc/campaign/ss_js/b2c_optin_ss_js.jsp

P.S.
Zechman, did I milk this one purty well ????????????

“No, Qualia's not being dropped
- until Sony figures out the full restructuring of Sony Electronics…what they are doing is postponing any new products for production. Whatever products are in the pipeline right now (Qualia 005, etc) will still be on time for shipment in Nov. etc. All current Qualia products will continue to be produced and supported, so no big blow out sales."

I was actually hoping that they did drop it, so that I would have a collector's item on my hands! :D

umr ..... any schedule yet for us'ens in upstate NY?

Please PM me so I can get you scheduled.

No picture issues here. In fact, last night we even mentioned that the set looks better than ever and we were surprised at how we are still amazed at how it looks.

BTW, SNL was in HD. Also, have you heard the B&W speakers?


Our cleaning lady knocked over one of my RDM2 speakers and broke the drivers.
I am thinking of replacing them with either Vandersteen 3a Signature or Phase Technology 9.1 towers. Any thoughts?

Regarding picture dimming - it may be I am just getting used to the bright picture rather than any real "noticable" change. I was just wondering if anyone else thought they noticed any changes. Certainly the bulb changes brightness and color temperature with time but I don't know if that would be noticable this quick. I got the set, I think, January 28 or so.

Dilbert1

No picture issues here. In fact, last night we even mentioned that the set looks better than ever and we were surprised at how we are still amazed at how it looks.

BTW, SNL was in HD. Also, have you heard the B&W speakers?

No I have not heard them, at least recently. It is very hard to find box floor standing speakers anymore. I am going to get both pairs of speakers in the house and have a shootout. The last pair standing wins.

Picture is still great but I feel better knowing some other people have seen -slight- dimming.

Dilbert1

For all you guys noticing a slight dimming of the 006, maybe the use of the anti-dimming device that was sent with the set might help - you know, the handy little dust remover brush for the screen :D :D :D

Picture is still great but I feel better knowing some other people have seen -slight- dimming.


I know I said that I may have also noticed dimming with my set, but during the weekend watching, especially with football, the picture looked just as great as the first time I laid eyes on it. I dunno, maybe it's just psychological and/or I am just getting old! :D

And speaking of the Q. In regards to the Qualia line disappearing, this is the word direct from the horse’s mouth………….

“No, Qualia's not being dropped
- until Sony figures out the full restructuring of Sony Electronics…what they are doing is postponing any new products for production. Whatever products are in the pipeline right now (Qualia 005, etc) will still be on time for shipment in Nov. etc. All current Qualia products will continue to be produced and supported, so no big blow out sales."

But will there be a price adjustment because of the other SXRD TV's on the market (at less than half the price)? A revamping of the product because of the new, smaller SXRD panels? I've heard it suggested they were going to adjust the pricing downward in November. Or will they discontinue it at its one year anniversary? It seems to me that something will happen with the 006 by the end of the year...

But will there be a price adjustment because of the other SXRD TV's on the market (at less than half the price)? A revamping of the product because of the new, smaller SXRD panels? I've heard it suggested they were going to adjust the pricing downward in November. Or will they discontinue it at its one year anniversary? It seems to me that something will happen with the 006 by the end of the year...

Marco,

Very good questions. I was in a Tweeter today "feeling" them out. The salesperson told me he did hear about a November price reduction but he did not have any more information on this as he said his source was a place called AVS forum. ;)

I told him I heard of the site. I neglected to mention that if I got paid for each hour of reading here... I would be retired by now!

He also confirmed that they are dumping Monster (or the other way around :rolleyes: )

But will there be a price adjustment because of the other SXRD TV's on the market (at less than half the price)? A revamping of the product because of the new, smaller SXRD panels? I've heard it suggested they were going to adjust the pricing downward in November. Or will they discontinue it at its one year anniversary? It seems to me that something will happen with the 006 by the end of the year...

Okay we have Nostradamus here! Where are you guys getting this stuff! C'mon everyone, of course the price will go down in time. Everything does, in fact this TV was being offered a couple thousand dollars cheaper just a couple months after it became available. Web prices are about 10 grand right now. Especially now with all the 1080p TVs coming out, it's only expected. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out. :)

Okay we have Nostradamus here! Where are you guys getting this stuff! C'mon everyone, of course the price will go down in time. Everything does, in fact this TV was being offered a couple thousand dollars cheaper just a couple months after it became available. Web prices are about 10 grand right now. Especially now with all the 1080p TVs coming out, it's only expected. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure this out. :)

Well, I'm actually not sure...I am just trying to provoke a discussion. Is there any, ANY history of price reduction in the Qualia line? I am not sure that there ever has been any reduction in pricing in the Qualia line. And while is it true you can find drop shippers out there that will sell you a Qualia 006 for 10K, is that actually a price reduction, or just un-authorized dealers undercutting authorized dealers? :cool:

Marco,

Very good questions. I was in a Tweeter today "feeling" them out. The salesperson told me he did hear about a November price reduction but he did not have any more information on this as he said his source was a place called AVS forum. ;)

I told him I heard of the site. I neglected to mention that if I got paid for each hour of reading here... I would be retired by now!

He also confirmed that they are dumping Monster (or the other way around :rolleyes: )

Sorry for the non-Qualia 006 post, and I am no fan of Monster, but if Tweeter is abandoning them (yes, I live in the Northeast) or they are abandoning each other, what is Tweeter planning on selling as the "High-End" cable? Again, a THOUSAND humble apologies for a non-Qualia 006 post. Please forgive me... ;)

while is it true you can find drop shippers out there that will sell you a Qualia 006 for 10K, is that actually a price reduction, or just un-authorized dealers undercutting authorized dealers? :cool:

I guess you can call it the latter one! Now if you ask me if Sony will drop the price later this year, I say yes, but by how much is the question? :)

Sorry for the non-Qualia 006 post, and I am no fan of Monster, but if Tweeter is abandoning them (yes, I live in the Northeast) or they are abandoning each other, what is Tweeter planning on selling as the "High-End" cable? Again, a THOUSAND humble apologies for a non-Qualia 006 post. Please forgive me... ;)

He said that they will be replacing Monster with Audioquest cables...

If I remember correctly a Sony rep at CEDIA mentioned that some big cheeses at Sony were meeting at the end of September to determine a new price for the 006 that would be announced in November (also when the 70" JVC will be out).

For all you guys noticing a slight dimming of the 006, maybe the use of the anti-dimming device that was sent with the set might help - you know, the handy little dust remover brush for the screen :D :D :D


Great observation dd :)

For all you guys noticing a slight dimming of the 006, maybe the use of the anti-dimming device that was sent with the set might help - you know, the handy little dust remover brush for the screen
You mean THIS? (http://servicesales.sel.sony.com/web/viewItemDetail.do?operation=getItemDetail&itemID=35584&searchOperation=modelSearch&searchText=KDS70Q006)
Also, DD -- can't remember; have you posted any photos of Mini-Dive performing his dusting chores using the aforementioned high-tech tool?

FWIW -- I use the Monster Cable cleaning kit designed for RPTVs; it has worked very well for me. Not sure if it has the Mini-Dive Seal Of Approval®...

TV Cleaning Kit (http://www.monstercable.com/productPage.asp?pin=1562)

On a completely unrelated note: noticed yesterday was the tenth anniversary of the O.J. verdict. Was wondering if he was ever able to track down the real killers during all those tedious hours spent investigating golf courses?

Was wondering if he was ever able to track down the real killers during all those tedious hours spent investigating golf courses?
NO……….. as he was also very busy sheltering all his assets from the civil verdict ! :mad:

OMFG -- these things are multipying like Tribbles!!! Mini-Dive has an Evil Twin, it would appear -- luckily I wrestled the weapon out of his hands before he could damage my set...

Well, I'm actually not sure...I am just trying to provoke a discussion. Is there any, ANY history of price reduction in the Qualia line? I am not sure that there ever has been any reduction in pricing in the Qualia line. And while is it true you can find drop shippers out there that will sell you a Qualia 006 for 10K, is that actually a price reduction, or just un-authorized dealers undercutting authorized dealers? :cool:

Marco99,
I purchased my 006 in March from a local Sony Authorized Dealer at the standard discount. And they sent four guys out to the country to deliver. :)

You mean THIS? (http://servicesales.sel.sony.com/web/viewItemDetail.do?operation=getItemDetail&itemID=35584&searchOperation=modelSearch&searchText=KDS70Q006)
Also, DD -- can't remember; have you posted any photos of Mini-Dive performing his dusting chores using the aforementioned high-tech tool?

FWIW -- I use the Monster Cable cleaning kit designed for RPTVs; it has worked very well for me. Not sure if it has the Mini-Dive Seal Of Approval®...

TV Cleaning Kit (http://www.monstercable.com/productPage.asp?pin=1562)


brt3,
Here is a picture of Mini Dive doing his weekly dusting chore . . .

He likes your cleaning kit. But I think he just wants the microfiber towel to use for a blanket. :rolleyes:

OMFG -- these things are multipying like Tribbles!!! Mini-Dive has an Evil Twin, it would appear -- luckily I wrestled the weapon out of his hands before he could damage my set...


brt3,

:eek: And the Evil Twin appears to have a tail :eek:

brt3, :eek: And the Evil Twin appears to have a tail :eek:
I have to keep him on a short leash...
:D

OMFG -- these things are multipying like Tribbles!!! Mini-Dive has an Evil Twin, it would appear -- luckily I wrestled the weapon out of his hands before he could damage my set...

Everyone,

Mini Dive has recovered from the shock of seeing the Evil Twin ready to burn down one of our beloved 006's and has geared up to defend 006's everywhere from all forms of fire . . .

He said that they will be replacing Monster with Audioquest cables...

If I remember correctly a Sony rep at CEDIA mentioned that some big cheeses at Sony were meeting at the end of September to determine a new price for the 006 that would be announced in November (also when the 70" JVC will be out).

Can't blame them for going with Audioquest over Monster.

Let's hope Sony announces something before November. I am vacillating over whether I should wait to hear the possible new price or to just get the 60" SXRD.

Does anybody know the list price for the forthcoming 70" JVC?

Does anyone think they'll make any changes in the Qualia 006 or just keep shipping it "as is" for another year or so?

I am puzzled why not many others have complained about the Qualia video delay.
I have two PVRs and two HD sets. I have a recorded concert that has considerable delay on the Qualia with no detectable delay on a Panasonic HD set.

Same delay with HDMI or component inputs. Delay is much greater in "pro" mode with "direct mode" off.

Delay is not nearly as severe on a DVD, but still annoying. Why no uproar from others? How does this not get mentioned in the reviews? Some sets have this problem, others don't?

-
Robert

i have to agree with you. i have posted issues with the Q in hopes that our collective minds can figure out a cure or work around. it seems instead we tend to fluff our feathers and rejoice in only the positive aspects of the Q or to post on totally off-subject matters.

For now I've decided to purchase this audio delay:
http://lipfix.com/home.html

This unit has two inputs/outputs, but one is optical , the other coax.

I would prefer something like this:
http://www.classeaudio.com/delta/detail-ssp-300.htm
but it's too expensive.

I wish Sony would just acknowledge the delay instead of telling me to try new video cable or wait for a Dish firmware update.

-
Robert
http://stampededrive.net/theater.htm

I just dove into this thread and come to find out all you Qualia 006 guys are losing your minds and putting up mini dudes all in front of your sets. haha..
DiveDUDE!!! Is that Lawrence of Arabia in your one photo?? Anymore photos of that on the Qualia would be great.... :)

Great observation dd :)

Could you drop me a PM or email? We need to schedule your calibration next week.

Let's hope Sony announces something before November. I am vacillating over whether I should wait to hear the possible new price or to just get the 60" SXRD.

Does anyone think they'll make any changes in the Qualia 006 or just keep shipping it "as is" for another year or so?

Marco,
Nice chatting with you! Wait til at least December, then I think we will see a significant price decrease on the Q. 60" SXRD is not too bad also, especially at the price :)

I just dove into this thread and come to find out all you Qualia 006 guys are losing your minds and putting up mini dudes all in front of your sets. haha..


Actually those mini dudes are the only things keeping us from losing our minds! :D

i have to agree with you. i have posted issues with the Q in hopes that our collective minds can figure out a cure or work around. it seems instead we tend to fluff our feathers and rejoice in only the positive aspects of the Q or to post on totally off-subject matters.
Interesting observation. Having spent time on a number of different threads on a number of different boards I would respectfully disagree. There is no way to have a thread last this long if you have a "just the facts, Ma'am" approach. So, we have our occasional bouts of silliness, but there's a lot of good info here as well.

Penton-Man and I each posted links to cheap products for audio-delay adjustment about 5 (or so) pages back. I have a LOT of time invested in my Qualia but am well aware of it's limitations. As much as I love mine it's only a TV set (insert flames from P-M here ;)). If someone comes out with something better I would buy the competing product. If I didn't think mine could be improved I would not be considering $5K worth of Algolith products or an ISF calibration. That being said, it's still the best overall picture $10K can buy...

You also need to realize that not everyone experiences audio delay, so this is not a "coverup". In my installation I've never experienced it except when my service provider (Comcast) was having a problem on their end.

Greetings all.

I'm here for a few days after a business trip to Spain earlier this week. The 13" TV in my hotel room is making me long for the Q006, not to mention the lack of programming ;)

I stopped by Harrod's this afternoon. I always enjoy walking that store and checking out everything from the food halls to clothing. I was talking to the Sony sales clerk in the Sony area, where it's set-up in its own section with products ranging from TV's to cameras (like a small Sony Style store) and he was a knowledgeable guy...and he'd never even heard of QUALIA. :confused:

Oh well, carry on Chaps!

P.S. P-M, Since France is fairly close, I was wondering if you knew anybody here that could provide me with some directions...

You also need to realize that not everyone experiences audio delay, so this is not a "coverup". In my installation I've never experienced it except when my service provider (Comcast) was having a problem on their end.

The only time I experienced audio delay was watching American Idol and it only happened a few times. All indications pointed to FOX broadcasting :)

I've read that some are sensitive to the video delay, some are not.
I would suggest switching to "pro" mode, turning "direct mode" off, watching a band play with hand clapping and tell me that you don't notice the video delay.

I've read that some are sensitive to the video delay, some are not.
I would suggest switching to "pro" mode, turning "direct mode" off, watching a band play with hand clapping and tell me that you don't notice the video delay.
I'll give it a try. I am extremely sensitive to the delay effect; I've occasionally been watching at a friend's house, for example, pointed out the delay, and had people wonder what I was talking about...

I've read that some are sensitive to the video delay, some are not.
I would suggest switching to "pro" mode, turning "direct mode" off, watching a band play with hand clapping and tell me that you don't notice the video delay.
Switched on Qualia 006. My settings always use "Pro Mode" with "Direct Mode" off.

Looked at Discovery HD, "Chronicles of Riddick" on HBOHD, and SNL on NBC-HD. With the latter there is a lot of dialogue and the musical group was "Kanye West". The latter is a really good test; with rap the dialogue is rapid-fire and any synch issues would be very evident. Plus, they clapped a lot, had some closeups of a DJ scratching with a turntable, and there were closeups of the violin section as well. The latter is a perfect test for synch, as the attack of a violin is very distinct and there was a conductor to boot. My video and audio are perfectly synchronized.

Plus, I have another good test for you. Tune into "American Chopper" on Discovery HD, then wait for Paul Jr. to start pounding something with his "persuader"...

Thanks for trying this, it's good to know that they don't all do it.

Thanks,
-
Robert

For now I've decided to purchase this audio delay:
http://lipfix.com/home.html

Gee,
I wonder where you found that ? since practically nobody else on this forum ever posted a word about that magic box. :D

Interesting observation. Having spent time on a number of different threads on a number of different boards I would respectfully disagree. There is no way to have a thread last this long if you have a "just the facts, Ma'am" approach. So, we have our occasional bouts of silliness, but there's a lot of good info here as well.
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Plus that…..after awhile you get to know people better and feel more comfortable in confiding with them and trusting their judgement about different accessories for the Q……….(and more important matters like surgeons :eek: )

----rather than reading cold hard facts by a poster whose competence and motives are unknown as he is simply a name in cyberspace.

There are a lot of guys here that I wouldn’t hesitate having over for dinner (including umr :D to enlighten him concerning the superiority of the Naval Academy over that *other* service institution ;) "…..I can’t say that for other threads that I follow.

Penton-Man and I each posted links to cheap products for audio-delay adjustment about 5 (or so) pages back. .
And they've been referenced by others like Zechman....to answer follow-up questions.

Greetings all.

I stopped by Harrod's this afternoon. Oh well, carry on Chaps!

Zechman,
As official historian of this thread, make note of the above.
Another member (in this case our founder) taking the time to post on this thread from not just out of state but also a broad. :)

P.S. P-M, Since France is fairly close, I was wondering if you knew anybody here that could provide me with some directions...
Well, unless they kicked them outa the area, Soho has always been notorious for direction-givers. ;)

On the other hand, you may be able to just walk into one of those phone booths on the streets of London and find what they call "vice cards" listing all services available for direction finders. :eek:

The above information was simply provided via Google search rather than from any first hand experience. :p

The only time I experienced audio delay was watching American Idol and it only happened a few times. All indications pointed to FOX broadcasting :)
Happened once with me watching A.I.

I racked it up to FOX, my cable co. or my HD DVR set-top box.

I purchased a Felston DD540 Digital Audio Delay box shortly after.

So, yes, I am VERY sensitive to lip-sync issues.....one mis-step - and I plunked down over $200. so it wouldn't happen again.

PM quote: "Another member (in this case our founder) taking the time to post on this thread from not just out of state but also a broad."

I'm thinking that posting from "a broad" was recently your speciality. Or did you mean "abroad"?

I'm thinking that posting from "a broad" was recently your speciality.
NO, No, no………jb gave me an out and I JUMPED at it ((nothing like a good barrister!)……thankfully, I hope that designation has now passed from me to jb007 :)

I definitely meant what I said. :D

JB, hope you're enjoying London. Harrod's is great fun; we were there over the summer. Good food too, some of the best fish and chips in London. Definitely no Qualias there when I visited in July .... cheerio, old chap!

Cheers

Well, we did not want to spend the money but when my wife heard the B&W Nautilus we got 5 of them! That was why I had so much trouble with a cabinet for the Q and finally went to a shelf. I have a picture on here somewhere. :D

No I have not heard them, at least recently. It is very hard to find box floor standing speakers anymore. I am going to get both pairs of speakers in the house and have a shootout. The last pair standing wins.

Picture is still great but I feel better knowing some other people have seen -slight- dimming.

Dilbert1

Well, we did not want to spend the money but when my wife heard the B&W Nautilus we got 5 of them! :D
Now THAT'S what I call a wife! Wow; you must have a wonderful looking (and sounding) system....

brt3, I agree. I have ComCast as well, and have not seen delay except when Comcast has it on PBS. I have their 6412's (one on a Plasma) and connect via HDMI and COAX for the Audio.

Now, can we return to the silliness? Please!

Interesting observation. Having spent time on a number of different threads on a number of different boards I would respectfully disagree. There is no way to have a thread last this long if you have a "just the facts, Ma'am" approach. So, we have our occasional bouts of silliness, but there's a lot of good info here as well.

Penton-Man and I each posted links to cheap products for audio-delay adjustment about 5 (or so) pages back. I have a LOT of time invested in my Qualia but am well aware of it's limitations. As much as I love mine it's only a TV set (insert flames from P-M here ;)). If someone comes out with something better I would buy the competing product. If I didn't think mine could be improved I would not be considering $5K worth of Algolith products or an ISF calibration. That being said, it's still the best overall picture $10K can buy...

You also need to realize that not everyone experiences audio delay, so this is not a "coverup". In my installation I've never experienced it except when my service provider (Comcast) was having a problem on their end.

WOW, they have them there too? In and around Tokyo, they are pasted all over the phone booths, but cleaned up in the AM. :D I guess people will always need directions. I heard it is the worlds oldest Profession.

Well, unless they kicked them outa the area, Soho has always been notorious for direction-givers. ;)

On the other hand, you may be able to just walk into one of those phone booths on the streets of London and find what they call "vice cards" listing all services available for direction finders. :eek:

The above information was simply provided via Google search rather than from any first hand experience. :p

...and the wife is OK, too. :D

We have a Meridian proc and it has a mode called Tri-Field. It will take Stereo and use the center speaker. I have it off. I want my music cd's to come from the left and right only+sub...for now.

Several times I thought the settings got messed with as I get up to see why the center is on....then I smile as it is NOT!

Now THAT'S what I call a wife! Wow; you must have a wonderful looking (and sounding) system....

I just dove into this thread and come to find out all you Qualia 006 guys are losing your minds and putting up mini dudes all in front of your sets. haha..
DiveDUDE!!! Is that Lawrence of Arabia in your one photo?? Anymore photos of that on the Qualia would be great.... :)

PaulyC,
It was from The Flight of the Phoenix. Mini Dive saw all the sand on the screen and it looked so realistic on the 006 that he thought it was time to dust. Just one of those silly things ;)

.We have a Meridian proc and it has a mode called Tri-Field. It will take Stereo and use the center speaker. I have it off. I want my music cd's to come from the left and right only+sub...for now...
mspan -- I have the Meridian Digital Theater setup. You may want to play around with Trifield; it is one of the most natural sounding processes I've heard, and -- in my sytem -- sounds better than straight stereo at least 90% of the time. And hey -- I'm still enough of a purist to listen to LPs (or should that be elitist?)...

For those of you who miss our old friend colortv, here's a link to his website:
CLICK HERE (http://www.kingoftheroad.net/qualia006/peacock.html)

I just had a Qualia owner cancel on my NE (NY,NJ,ME,MA) tour. Please PM me if you are interested in a calibration next week.

Anyone have any experience with this:

Datacolor SpyderTV (http://www.colorvision.com/spydertv_usa.shtml)

For a relatively small stack of Penton-Paper ($250) this might do a nice job. Not a substitute for the full ISF-treatment (call umr for that!), but it looks promising nonetheless...

Quiet around here these days...
Anybody there????

ECHO!!!

Echo!!

echo!..........

:D

Some news on the Qualia line can be found at www.avrev.com. Looks like the reporting of Qualia's demise was a little premature.

Some news on the Qualia line can be found at www.avrev.com. Looks like the reporting of Qualia's demise was a little premature.
Interesting idea; ending "white glove" support would be a big strike at these price points. Everything I've read to date made me think they were just pausing any further R&D on the Qualia line...

I had been under the impression that the 2 front projectors, the 006 and the video cam had been spared the axe, for now. The rest of the Qualia line and R&D, as you pointed out, was being cut or eliminated. I can't imagine the 006 and a possibly forthcoming 70" SXRD GW XBR co-existing, though.

One more thing. If Sony eliminates Qualia/White Glove service, does that mean you no longer get Wm. Phelps as part of the Qualia 004 deal?

Has anyone had luck with an external video upscaler? I have a Denon 3910 and I like the Qualia internal scaler better. I have heard the 5910 has a better one than the 3910... Has anyone tried this: http://www.dvdo.com/pro/pro_isvp30.php or other scaler that gave them a better picture?

for your interest ... http://www.snapstream.com/

also ... http://blogs.snapstream.com/

Well, I will try that then. I have the Meridian 568. You know, I still have a ton of Records, or is the term vinyl! I even have a Bunch of Sheffield stuff....Lincoln Mayorga, and I bet it is worth a few $$$. My turntable never survived the move up from the Bay Area (Saratoga) as the B&O 4002 blows a fuse as soon as it is turned on. Perhaps a Cap, but I have never had a chance to play with it.

Later,
Dave

mspan -- I have the Meridian Digital Theater setup. You may want to play around with Trifield; it is one of the most natural sounding processes I've heard, and -- in my sytem -- sounds better than straight stereo at least 90% of the time. And hey -- I'm still enough of a purist to listen to LPs (or should that be elitist?)...

Has anyone had luck with an external video upscaler?
In-ter-est-ing concept Viper.
Someone should give it a try. :confused:

Now ....now PM remember patience is somewhat of a virtue. Although virtue is somewhat elusive, especially when one looks for "directions". hummmmmmm ....

Now ....now PM remember patience is somewhat of a virtue. Although virtue is somewhat elusive, especially when one looks for "directions". hummmmmmm ....
If I can get a smile out of someone having a difficult day on the job – even at my expense (due to some under-aged over exuberant house sitter completely misconstruing a situation)…………I’m happy to oblige my fellow Qualians and any "direction giver." :)

Actually, you may be quite surprised. :p

I have been happily married to the same lovely woman for 23 years and have never been unfaithful to her during that time (or during the six years prior that we dated while I was pursuing my chosen profession)………..so that makes a total of 29 years in a monogamous relationship with the same woman. :eek:

In this day and age I suspect I may be in the minority.

And even if I wasn’t married….. if I EVER really had to pay for it……..I think I would enter a severe state of depression first because I would assume that I had completely lost all social skills. This would lead to impotency…so what would really be the point? :(

P.S.
My “direction-taking” prior to meeting my wife is another matter. :D

under-aged over exuberant house sitter

PM,

Did he ever fess up to watching the 006 while house sitting? :eek:

No!
And I know he did....because he put kaduku's cover on upside-down. :rolleyes:

But, I never confronted him about it .....because overall he did a fabulous job with everything else.

Penton-man... what was behind your comment: "In-ter-est-ing concept Viper.
Someone should give it a try. "

Has anyone seen the 60XBR1 SXRD review in Home Teater Mag? 60XBR1"Best 1080P Yet?" they measured contrast ratio at 13,300 using auto iris. even with the iris in manual mode it measured between 3000 (qualia 006) to 5000. Amazing! they also measured the deepest blacks for any micro display they've seen to date ,including plasmas. They are highly impressed with it overall. best they've seen. didn't they review the Qualia?

PM...

>>>In this day and age I suspect I may be in the minority.

Well, I have not strayed either. I have even had a few chances while working in the Bay Area (Sunnyvale) for 20+ years.

We have been married for 38 1/2 years, and we dated for many before that!

Just when I thought I could live happily ever after w/my Qualia 006...

World's Largest HighDef LED Display... (http://www.gizmag.com/go/4719/)

PM the Bride and I just celebrated #35, and we look forward to at least 40 more. We are now the few, the lucky, the blessed.

Geez,
You and mpsan make me feel like a neophyte.

Cudos to both of you. :)

Penton-man... what was behind your comment: "In-ter-est-ing concept Viper.
Someone should give it a try. "
brt will be testing the benefits of using one (the Algolith Dragonfly) as soon as they start shipping.

Actually, he will probably test the Algolith Mosquito (basically a noise reducer) first as those apparently are scheduled to ship earlier.

He should provide us with a thorough evaluation of each toy ….both together and separately…as I think their arrival may coincide with his knee surgery….thus he will be a coach potato for a little while.

As we speak, he is currently negotiating with Elmo to hook up all the cables in the back of everything in case he’s on crutches before he receives either piece. :cool:

brt will be testing the benefits of using one (the Algolith Dragonfly) as soon as they start shipping.

As we speak, he is currently negotiating with Elmo to hook up all the cables in the back of everything in case he’s on crutches before he receives either piece. :cool:
D*mn dog doesn't have opposable thumbs; he ends up using his teeth and gets drool all over my equipment. This is one reason that Elmo is a major proponent of HDMI...

While waiting for dragonfly and mosquitos, you might want to try this.

Double check to be sure that all your power cables are away from picture cables.

In moving my component cabinet the other day, I must have moved my component cable slightly resulting in obvious picture noise. This is using a fairly well regarded Blue Jeans component cable. Just reached behind the cabinet and pushed it over a couple of inches. Major difference.

A little OT.

I mentioned before that I got 3 Months of HBO for $1/Month, and I think the HBO-HD looks great on the Q. But, is it me, or are there only 4 new movies on per Month. They advertise a new movie every Saturday Night, but that is all I see. The rest are old or are reruns, or ROME, that seems to be on all day on at least one of the HBO channels and ON DEMAND!

I check all the channels, then see if it is on HD because if it is not HD, I may as well keep it on my Netflix list. Still, I only see the four new movies a month. Originals now seem to be Rome only.

i just sat down with the 60" xbr1 sxrd for about 3 hours in a mostly darkened room. watched a dvd i'm familiar with (pearl harbor). very impressed. yes, better blacks than our qualias. killer contrast. i set it up like my qualia (pro,warm,etc) felt like i was viewing a crt. colors,hues about the same. slightly more noisy. same sense of depth in the picture.same menu system options but adds iris adjustments. i like it alot.

you just broke my heart
you mean our Q just went in to a diet,lose more than half the weight,still have all the goodies and even better?
wow!

I am glad to hear that Sony has another great TV on the market. I do not plan to downsize, so a 60" or 50" SXRD is not in my future. And I have a hard time taking any review seriously when it is done without the use of even one capital letter.

And I have a hard time taking any review seriously when it is done without the use of even one capital letter.

you should take this one serious,capital letters or not. the new sxrd's are real lookers.

you should take this one serious,capital letters or not. the new sxrd's are real lookers.
I think (perhaps) what DivdDude is saying is this -- reviews are great and we really appreciate your opinion, but it's no substitute for sitting down with one in a more controlled environment and trying to compare "apples to apples". That being said, "GO TEAM SXRD!"...

Big SXRD owners:

A quick assessment that will hopefully not derail your thread for but a few responses. I own the baby SXRD and noticed what is either chrom aber or convergence: a color fringing along the right side of the screen for about 2-3 "boxes" in on the DVE convergence test pattern. It's only visible within 10 or so feet and can't be seen on regular viewing. I assume: 1) it is a common abnormality on these sets but a majority of you owners do not have it; 2) it is at it is with no service menu tweak to correct that like older RPTV, 3) I could return it, exchange it or have someone replace the assembly (which could render me a set that is worse off). But if it is a clear minority of sets that have this, the odds are that a new one would be better if this minor issue psychologically still bothers me.

Since this set is new, I'm not getting a lot of responses from the 50/60 threads. They are still in the " Awesome. I just saw it at..." stage. You all remember that. Thanks in advance my big TV brothers..

dr_jason

I think if a convergence grid was placed on any of these sets and one was to look close enough, they would find some area where they are seeing some degree of color fringing. The question then becomes two part. Precisely how much is there and how much does it bother you. If even a small amount bothers you, then you're sunk. No point is trying to swap these out as you're likely to get another one with some. If a small amount is acceptable as long as you know its normal, then the next question is just how much do you have? By chance, can you photograph and post a jpeg of it??

dr_jason

I think if a convergence grid was placed on any of these sets and one was to look close enough, they would find some area where they are seeing some degree of color fringing. The question then becomes two part. Precisely how much is there and how much does it bother you. If even a small amount bothers you, then you're sunk. No point is trying to swap these out as you're likely to get another one with some. If a small amount is acceptable as long as you know its normal, then the next question is just how much do you have? By chance, can you photograph and post a jpeg of it??

Thank you for replying!

My 30 days is running out soon so my stress level is rising a bit. I can take a picture when I get home later today. It did look like a couple of pictures posted 100's of pages ago. From memory, blue is to the left, red to the right, fringing starts about 3 to 4 boxes in from the right, it is the entire height of the screen, and it is about 1/4 to 1/2 the width of the white line. Its hard to tell if it gets worse the farther right you go.

If a perfect CA/conv TV is the exception rather than the rule, than I'm more accepting of it. But prior discussions only talks about corners, not 1/6th of the screen.

Can calibration solve this problem? Other than the things that we non-calibrators have access to, such as the menu items, what other can a pro calibrator do?

dr_jason,

I doubt you will find any better performance in an RPTV at this price point. Even very expensive front projectors have some and the optical problem is usually easier in those applications. You "might" be able to get better performance from the JVC Pro model, but I have not seen it and it does cost much more than the Qualia. I doubt it eliminates the CA problem entirely though. You should just sit back and watch the thing and stop fretting over the minor flaws the Qualia has. Most people would just love to have one.

Not to take this thread entirley off topic, but I just stumbled across this discussion of convergence a moment ago while researching essentially the same problem I've been experiencing with my 2 yr old GWIII. After reviewing some of UMR's old posts on the topic, I had just sent him a PM on this very point.

My issue cropped up watching various NFL games this weekend. At first I thought that reds appear to bleed over about three pixels. On closer inspection, it looks like the reds are not actually in the correct spot. For example, a red stripe down a player's leg or the red on a player's helmet is actually three pixels over from the stripe or the helmet, leaving the stripe or helmet without color. Very noticeable on a 60" from 12 feet.

Thinking about having the light engine replaced, as sports is what I watch the most. Curious if this problem will be less pronounced with slightly different panels in LCOS sets like the Qualia or the SXRDs?

Does anybody know how BAD the Qualia sucks compared to the newer SXRD sets?

Dear Artwood ... I would be very much in doubt if the "suck value" of a Qualia is measureable even by your high standards.

I think Artwood is about 1 step away from getting a time out.

If a 70 inch looks better than an average 50 or 60 of other brands that tells you something. The optics are the best you can get. So you can not compare a Picture this way. Plus the XBR - 1 only has a 60 inch, so we can not compare apples to apples anyway. Artwood if you like another brand go visit in that forum. All of the forums on A.V.S. is to help & improve the quality of the product .

I am sorry to report a complete lack of suckage here. In fact, one of the things I looked for was what had been mentioned. I find red even against white has no bleed. Very nice like no other set I have seen. So, the Qualia 006 is fine in my house. </suckage>

Dave

I've yet to see a 70" Qualia but hope to do so one day. I just got my 60" SXRD which is a close cousin and love teh set and PQ. However, I was under the assumption that all SXRD sets had no SDE. I noticed on my set if I'm 1' or closer I can see a faint outline of square pixels. I wonder if I'm seeing artifiacts that may be a result of my Directv HD Tivo. I also tried my Denon 2800 DVD player and saw the same pixels so I'm thinking it's not the feed. I also see some macroblocking and breakup on fast moving objects. I would love to hear from owners here if you are also seeing the same things and is this normal for this technology.