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mpsan,
All other secondary controls for your components will appear on the screen. In fact, you can program whatever functions you want to appear for each component.
There is a battery meter on the display, but since I keep the remote in the cradle, I have no idea how long a charge lasts. Obviously it is dependent on how often you utilize the remote, how long you have the backlight set to stay on, etc. One really cool feature of the 880 is that there is a motion sensor, so when you pick up the remote it will light.
I'm certain if you're unhappy you can always return the remote or place it on eBay. It's not that much of an investment :D
bernster2001 01-20-06, 06:14 PM Brt
Thanks for the comments.
OK, may give the 880 a try. I want my wife to see the 880 and 676 first.
Thank you,
MP
mpsan,
All other secondary controls for your components will appear on the screen. In fact, you can program whatever functions you want to appear for each component.
There is a battery meter on the display, but since I keep the remote in the cradle, I have no idea how long a charge lasts. Obviously it is dependent on how often you utilize the remote, how long you have the backlight set to stay on, etc. One really cool feature of the 880 is that there is a motion sensor, so when you pick up the remote it will light.
I'm certain if you're unhappy you can always return the remote or place it on eBay. It's not that much of an investment :D
BenDover 01-20-06, 07:27 PM Well I also have an F. A. C. something or other after that which is stiched on the white coat (I can't read the last letter as it was worn off long ago) - which, for the life of me, I don't remember what I received it for.
I hope something good. :confused:
Probably for future accomplishments: Face Against Concrete specialist :D
Reason #14 to love your Q006: No green blobs [those poor folks over on the SXRD thread, yikes :eek: ]
OK, may give the 880 a try. I want my wife to see the 880 and 676 first.
Thank you,
MP
You may want to wait for the 890. I like my 880, but if you don't point it in the right direction, especially if you're components are in a stand with small windows, you may not get some turned on or off. The 890 uses both RF and IR, so you don't need to actually point it to your sources. This is good especially when you have your tv on one end and other equipment on the other side of the room. I also like the color scheme better, matches the Q remote and looks more hi-tech. Has other features too, like lighting control, and other room options, otherwise, works the same as the 880,.
Thanks, we are going to BB in a few hours to take a look! I do know the 880 is a lot more Penton Paper than the 676!
mpsan,
All other secondary controls for your components will appear on the screen. In fact, you can program whatever functions you want to appear for each component.
There is a battery meter on the display, but since I keep the remote in the cradle, I have no idea how long a charge lasts. Obviously it is dependent on how often you utilize the remote, how long you have the backlight set to stay on, etc. One really cool feature of the 880 is that there is a motion sensor, so when you pick up the remote it will light.
I'm certain if you're unhappy you can always return the remote or place it on eBay. It's not that much of an investment :D
Well, all of our stuff is under the Q, so the 880 should not be an issue. Others have said that one good thing about the 676 is the stronger IR transmitters.
You may want to wait for the 890. I like my 880, but if you don't point it in the right direction, especially if you're components are in a stand with small windows, you may not get some turned on or off. The 890 uses both RF and IR, so you don't need to actually point it to your sources. This is good especially when you have your tv on one end and other equipment on the other side of the room. I also like the color scheme better, matches the Q remote and looks more hi-tech. Has other features too, like lighting control, and other room options, otherwise, works the same as the 880,.
BenDover 01-21-06, 09:28 PM the 890 is already out...i'm going to pick one up some time in the near future. i think the 880 is great and i have no problems with the ir signals...my equipment rack is located about 6-7 ft from the left speaker of the Q (the IR receiver is towards the right of the tv). i usually aim my 880 towards the left speaker of the Q and never have a problem...i started having problems not too long ago with the Q sometimes not turning on...i set the delay between commands for the Q a bit longer and everything went back to no problems...not sure why it started doing this about a year later...maybe one of the kids or wife dropped the remote and one of the ir emitters broke ( i do here a little rattling inside, like a broken piece of plastic)...the 880 and i think all of harmony's remotes have multiple ir emitters which is why i've never had a problem with any of their remotes...for the price, i don't think these things can be beat...that being said, i read something about a new company Control 4 that I will be looking into...
Well, we went to BB and just got back with the 676. They did a 110% PM to WalMart. Great price and it will give me a chance to try it out!
Hi Guys-
I've been out of the loop for quite a while. Looks like a lot of the "early adopters" are still around and enjoying their Qualia's. Mine is still going strong with no issues. I've got two questions:
(1) Where is the best place to buy bulbs? How much? Did you get your first one free?
(2) These new sets that take a 1080P input.........................any concern? It looks like Blu-Ray has 1080P output :-(
casey
I wouldn't be concerned about 1080p input until actual movies come out in 1080p. Whether the Sony Blue Ray player deinterlaces a 1080i signal or the Sony 006 does it, I would think that it would be about the same. Its only if 1080p movies are shipped that there would be an advantage and I still seriously doubt that movie companies are going to do that even if the copy protection is strong. All it takes is one very industrious geek to spoil that for them, so why would take the risk?
BenDover 01-22-06, 08:40 AM casey
I wouldn't be concerned about 1080p input until actual movies come out in 1080p. Whether the Sony Blue Ray player deinterlaces a 1080i signal or the Sony 006 does it, I would think that it would be about the same. Its only if 1080p movies are shipped that there would be an advantage and I still seriously doubt that movie companies are going to do that even if the copy protection is strong. All it takes is one very industrious geek to spoil that for them, so why would take the risk?
that plus there may be no perceptible quality difference.
thesirjay 01-22-06, 09:23 AM Just a note - I went and did the owner's manual check and it seems the cleaning out the lamp area is only intended to happen when a bulb dies. Are any of you trying this out at other times than bulb change? If so any positive results? I was a bit worried I was missing a maintenance aspect of the Q but it appears the only Maintenance is keeping the darn screen dust/spot free :).
Hi Guys-
I've been out of the loop for quite a while. Looks like a lot of the "early adopters" are still around and enjoying their Qualia's. Mine is still going strong with no issues. I've got two questions:
(1) Where is the best place to buy bulbs? How much? Did you get your first one free?
(2) These new sets that take a 1080P input.........................any concern? It looks like Blu-Ray has 1080P output :-(
I got my first replacement bulb free by calling my Qualia cierge. There's a link on post #1 to a site where you can purchase a replacement bulb. The bulb runs around $300.
pawrampe 01-22-06, 11:14 AM Has anyone any experience with connecting a SA 8300HD to the Qualia 006 via i.link/IEEE1394?
Has anyone any experience with connecting a SA 8300HD to the Qualia 006 via i.link/IEEE1394?
Try the search button! (just kidding :D)
I do not, but it is my understanding that i.link does not support graphic menus. So, by connecting your cable box via i.link, you will be losing channel guides, program info, etc.
pawrampe 01-22-06, 11:41 AM Try the search button! (just kidding :D)
I do not, but it is my understanding that i.link does not support graphic menus. So, by connecting your cable box via i.link, you will be losing channel guides, program info, etc.
Search, search? Through this mess?.... J/K :O
Search, search? Through this mess?.... J/K :OWouldn't it be nice if we could have two versions of this thread -- the "main" thread (for all the BSers like me) and "thread lite" that contains all the "factual" posts? ;)
All that aside, I am really enjoying the calibration on my set. Jeff did an amazing job and there do NOT seem to be any compromises present. The only thing I ever fiddle with is changing "Power Saving" from normal (off) to the reduced setting -- depending on the material and the amount of ambient lighting.
Last night I watched a show on INHD2 called "GO!"; they were covering the Greenwich Concours and the image was just stunning. This was absolutely perfect HD material, as there was little motion or quick pans (read: no readily apparent motion or compression artifacts). The colors, the details in the close-ups, and the overall PQ in general were (dare I say it?) perfect. :eek:
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Penton-Man 01-22-06, 04:38 PM I will never catch up to PM!
That's what everyone in the back of the pack says. :D
YOUR game starts in a bit. I'm routing for Seattle.
Penton-Man 01-22-06, 04:40 PM Wouldn't it be nice if we could have two versions of this thread -- the "main" thread (for all the BSers like me)
Don't forget ME ! :D
See above post. :)
Penton-Man 01-22-06, 04:48 PM and "thread lite" that contains all the "factual" posts? ;)
"factual" - as "factual" as the typical AVS forum "thread lite" threads ?......
Casey, in regards to your query on the last page....
There appears to be a great deal of confusion on this and until standards are firmly set in concrete and everyone gets on the same page – including marketing reps – this may remain the case for the time being. :(
I believe that Blu-ray discs are/will be encoded in 1080p24 for film material (video material is/will be encoded in 1080/60i).
I believe that the Sony Blu-ray player will output 1080p24.
(In fact, I believe the Pioneer is supposed to do this as well but the specs on the Sony show a lot of good audio decoding and I haven’t followed that particular feature on the Pioneer Blu-ray specs.)
The best scenario would be to have a disc encoded as above (1080p24), and a player set to output the above, and a display to accept and display the above.
I *suspect* that since the Sony people are claiming that the new 70” SXRD sets will accept a “1080p signal”, when the engineers update the interface on the new 70” HDMI implementations that they will just include 24p support knowing what they offer via BluRay specs and 1080p/24.
Now for us Qualians that plan to hook the Sony Blu-ray up via HDMI (note I say HDMI – because Zechman may have found the Golden Path via i.LINK ……I just don’t know yet).
I believe we will set the player to interlace the signal and then output it as 1080i60. No information will be lost (at least for film sources).
I suspect that our 006’s will automatically detect this film content of the 1080i source and apply a reverse 3-2 pulldown process for the best P/Q. I’m told that this doesn’t involve a helluva of a lot of video processing.
I’m guessing that on our 70” Qualias that the above may not be *quite as good* as the best case scenario described above – but I’m thinking that it will be pretty damn close.
And in regards to trying to input a Hi-Def progressive signal via i.LINK that’s a whole different discussion and perhaps we will never really know unless somebody does it with a Blu-ray player showing a Blu-ray movie.
I think this whole 1080i/1080p signal input/output discussion will really take a back seat to how these discs are actually mastered by the film companies.
THAT’S what I’m mostly concerned about.
Just the facts maam, just the facts! :p
thesirjay 01-22-06, 05:32 PM fyi on the Harmony 880 remote issue. I finally decided to pull the trigger on one. I picked it up on ebay - new sealed from someone with over 4800 feedbacks 100% positive they say they have sold over 400 of these. The kicker is a 50 dollar mail-in rebate! Its free shipping so after rebate I am paying barely over half of retail (less than half if you count in sales tax). He still has 70 of them for sale so it might be worth your time to hit ole ebay and look for harmony 880 rebate.
I think this whole 1080i/1080p signal input/output discussion will really take a back seat to how these discs are actually mastered by the film companies.
THAT’S what I’m mostly concerned about.This is a very good point; the higher the resolution of the display device the more ruthlessly it displays problems and artifacts. My set was very good in this respect, but after calibration it is superb. You can instantly see the smallest details; let's just say there's an area anchor-lady who may want to check out her station's HiDef feed sometime. If she did so her makeup person would be fired on the spot... :D
I'd rather they NOT issue LOA on BluRay until they have a restored master capable of withstanding careful scrutiny. I've gotten sick of buying a title on DVD, only to have the studio issue restored, directors, or collectors' editions down the road. Ah well, that's what happens with unmitigated greed, eh? :rolleyes:
"factual" - as "factual" as the typical AVS forum "thread lite" threads?Just being facetious, actually; I like our thread just the way it is, and there are enough places (page one, my page, etc.) where everyone can get "just the facts"...
P-M -- the guy who takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin' -- how are you mending? I can forward you some wonderful Ernest Angeley videos; if you believe (and send an appropriately sized check) you will be HEEEE-UHHHLLLLDDDD!!! :D
Yup, on the 6412 now. Want to see pregame first to see if I have a winning Safeway #. :D Will start game in a few minutes!
That's what everyone in the back of the pack says. :D
YOUR game starts in a bit. I'm routing for Seattle.
Well, got my 676 from BB with 110% PM to Walmart. Also have $50 rebate so will give it a try.
fyi on the Harmony 880 remote issue. I finally decided to pull the trigger on one. I picked it up on ebay - new sealed from someone with over 4800 feedbacks 100% positive they say they have sold over 400 of these. The kicker is a 50 dollar mail-in rebate! Its free shipping so after rebate I am paying barely over half of retail (less than half if you count in sales tax). He still has 70 of them for sale so it might be worth your time to hit ole ebay and look for harmony 880 rebate.
Penton-Man 01-22-06, 07:28 PM Yup, on the 6412 now. Want to see pregame first to see if I have a winning Safeway #. :D Will start game in a few minutes!
Better hurry up, it looks like it may already be over in the 1st quarter. :eek:
Penton-Man 01-22-06, 07:30 PM I'd rather they NOT issue LOA on BluRay until they have a restored master capable of withstanding careful scrutiny.
Yup,
I’ve thought about the same thing and I’m just wondering if the Hi-Def version really turns out to be a mixed blessing for us Qualians (in terms of the entire film) with some gorgeous scenes and some scenes that are even worse than the Superbit version.
Penton-Man 01-22-06, 07:31 PM Just being facetious
Me too !
Penton-Man 01-22-06, 07:32 PM P-M -- the guy who takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin' -- how are you mending?
Think…. one of the worst cervical neck sprain (i.e. whiplash) injuries that you’ve ever had.
I’ve spent the day mostly motionless like one of the Queen’s guards. :(
And the Qualian haters out there think that there is no use for the stock speakers on our 006’s ???
What the hell, if I had my full sound system revved up, the programs in Dolby 5.1 would have caused me permanent neck spasm by this time and I would have spent the rest of my life talking to people with a right head tilt.
Other than that, everything is just peachy.
Raccoon eyes have almost disappeared, inside of mouth no longer looks like ground hamburger and other misc. bumps and bruises are less irritating.
Oh, BUT…. the antibiotic has induced diarrhea and muscle cramps so I’ve been going thru that white Penton Paper like gangbusters. :eek:
Both the Qualia stores (while they're still there :)) have Blu-Ray Players from Japan. Are those just prototypes? I wonder if they have i.Link?
Next time someone is in one of the stores, check it out. See if the Blu-Ray outputs 1080p. Then see if they don't mind if you connect the Blu-Ray to the Qualia 006 via i.link.
While the U.S. production Blu-Rays will surely be different, this may help to answer some questions -- enquiring minds want to know :D
WOW, you are not kidding!
Better hurry up, it looks like it may already be over in the 1st quarter. :eek:
Penton-Man 01-22-06, 10:41 PM Both the Qualia stores (while they're still there :)) have Blu-Ray Players from Japan. Are those just prototypes? I wonder if they have i.Link?
I believe that they probably do…..but I bet those players don’t pass a progressive signal like the ones due out this summer will.
It may STILL be worthwhile to try it though to confirm that one CAN’T visualize the user menus from the Blu-ray to the 006 via the i.LINK hook-up which I suppose we would all be interested in.
Just plan on bringing your own i.LINK cable !
I’m cynical if they will actually have one available for you to play with. :rolleyes:
I suggest this…………
http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=DLCHM15
or a generic 4-pin to 4pin (I’m guessing here !) from your favorite flavor cable manufacturer of the month.
Penton-Man 01-22-06, 10:43 PM Both the Qualia stores (while they're still there :))
Speaking of Sonycierges, I think that on Monday, they will probably be e-mailing or phoning a bunch of V.I.P. Qualians about sweet discounts on ALL Qualia products !
Just keep in mind that “sweet” is definitely a tongue-in-cheek description and may not be as price slashing as one would expect.
Penton-Man 01-22-06, 10:43 PM WOW, you are not kidding!
:)
Put the above in the "thread-heavy" category.
What about an open box display 006?
My local Magnolia has it for under 10 grand, but it was looking mighty dim.
They said they would throw in a new lamp for that price.
Anything I should look for on a display model? Total hours maybe? How would I so that?
The screen and the casing looked perfect. Again, it looked very dim, but it has been on for about 6 months, for 16 hours a day, I bet.
Would you buy this, or are price drops coming?
Thanks, Rick
drfokos 01-23-06, 10:30 AM Has anyone been able to port their computer display to their 006? I have an Apple Powerbook and I'd like to be able to display it's screen image on my television. I tried iLink -- it recognized the computer but gave a "no signal" message and a black screen. I tried the S-video cable but nothing again.
David
I was able to connect my computer to the 006 via dvi and it worked fine. There was some overscan, but using the Nvidia overscan adjustment feature, I was able to correct this. I think the final resolution setting was 1776 x 1000 (going by memory here). I never tried it with firewire, sorry.
BenDover 01-23-06, 02:25 PM Has anyone any experience with connecting a SA 8300HD to the Qualia 006 via i.link/IEEE1394?
I don't believe my SA8300HD has an IEEE1394 connector...otherwise, if it does, no I haen't...
Speaking of Sonycierges, I think that on Monday, they will probably be e-mailing or phoning a bunch of V.I.P. Qualians about discounts on ALL Qualia products!P-M -- please post or message if this email goes out. So far the only thing I've rec'd is a SonyStyle email informing me of a price drop on the "normal" SXRD line. Are we to assume this is the beginning of the end? :(
Penton-Man 01-23-06, 05:17 PM P-M -- please post or message if this email goes out. So far the only thing I've rec'd is a SonyStyle email informing me of a price drop on the "normal" SXRD line. Are we to assume this is the beginning of the end? :(
I wouldn’t wait to hear from them because I’ve learned that this company is so damn big…that often the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing, so they call a meeting with the relevant parties to decide what they can do, when they plan to accomplish it, and what will be the party line to tell the public.
Then, of course, some other dude higher up on the totem pole (who wasn’t present at said meeting above) decides to change something and not inform anyone at the original meeting –
Examples…..jb007’s delivery of his 006, Lawrence of Arabia, Q006 upgrade kit, etc.
I would get on the phone and call your Sonycierge and tell them that you’re interested in the X Qualia product and since you hear that the Qualia division is being downsized, you were wondering if they (Sony) was offering any discounts at this time.
If you don’t have a personal cierge I can PM you a generic one that will be happy to take your money.
Penton-Man 01-23-06, 05:20 PM "
The best scenario would be to have a disc encoded as above (1080p24), and a player set to output the above, and a display to accept and display the above.
F.Y.I.
In regards to displays, the Sony Ruby can NOT do the above over HDMI.
The Qualia 004 can.
If you don’t have a personal cierge I can PM you a generic one that will be happy to take your money.Yes, please -- the "Cierge" I dealt with during my Q006 purchase was not all that great. Maybe not his fault as the set was so new, but I always prefer someone saying "I don't know, but I'll find out" instead of making things up to save face... :rolleyes:
drfokos 01-23-06, 07:12 PM I was able to connect my computer to the 006 via dvi and it worked fine. There was some overscan, but using the Nvidia overscan adjustment feature, I was able to correct this. I think the final resolution setting was 1776 x 1000 (going by memory here). I never tried it with firewire, sorry.
Thanks. DVI worked fine. I don't know why I didn't think to try it.
BenDover 01-23-06, 10:11 PM tell me, what can be more satisfying than watching my steelers on my beloved Q defy the statistical odds and drive their way to superbowl xl...
nevermind, i'll tell you...
watching them steamroll the seahawks on my beloved Q:D
they were just holding out for me to get a set worthy enough to see them once again take there place as superbowl champs!!!
Zechman 01-24-06, 09:29 AM Has anyone been able to port their computer display to their 006? I have an Apple Powerbook and I'd like to be able to display it's screen image on my television. I tried iLink -- it recognized the computer but gave a "no signal" message and a black screen. I tried the S-video cable but nothing again.
David
The i.Link port is only going to be useful for carrying encoded MPEG data, like broadcast HDTV, DVD's, or some to-be-determined HD optical disc. You won't ever be able to use it for the computer's display, because it has no way of carrying "uncompressed" data like the other inputs do.
If you could, it would mean that your computer has to encode and compress its screen data to MPEG in real time, which is barely in reach of the fastest home computer CPU's--to say nothing of burning up all that CPU time and leaving you with a dog-slow machine.
As suggested, your best bet is to use a DVI/HDMI adapter cable and feed one of the HDMI ports--but you'll need to set up the Mac to a custom resolution, and I don't know how to do that. [Watch as brt3's respect for me grows! ;)] I know on my Mac Mini, it defaulted to putting out a VGA-type signal, and the Qualia won't accept that. I didn't bother trying to figure it out, since I'm primarily using VNC to access its screen via my network.
If you do know how to set up the DVI output to match 1080i60 on OS X, please either post it or PM me.
--Dwayne
Zechman 01-24-06, 09:33 AM Oh, and on behalf of my dad,
Go Steelers!!! :cool:
--Dwayne
Not going to happen on my Q! :D
tell me, what can be more satisfying than watching my steelers on my beloved Q defy the statistical odds and drive their way to superbowl xl...
nevermind, i'll tell you...
watching them steamroll the seahawks on my beloved Q:D
they were just holding out for me to get a set worthy enough to see them once again take there place as superbowl champs!!!
Tell your Dad I am sorry! :D
Back on topic...with the few mentions of Sony cutting back on Qualia, should we get our free lamp now, or will we still be able to get them later? BTW, mine is still bright enough to see the Seahawks win!
Oh, and on behalf of my dad,
Go Steelers!!! :cool:
--Dwayne
Hi All!
I decided to suspend my daily lurking and pose a quick question.
My addition is coming along (slowly) and the Q purchase nears. Based on observations here I have decided to get the Denon DVD 3910 to tide me over.
My local authorized B & M gave me 20% of my Denon 4806 receiver (this is the price I asked for). I do not know (with confidence) what price to ask for the 3910.
I have bought a couple medium priced items from them before but would not consider myself a "special" customer at this point.
Would any of you be kind enough to PM me your thought? I would like to order it in the next couple of days.
Thanks! (still the best thread ever) :)
Penton-Man 01-24-06, 12:23 PM tell me, what can be more satisfying than watching my steelers on my beloved Q defy the statistical odds and drive their way to superbowl xl...
NOT going to Detroit in the dead of winter ! :eek:
Good choice for a venue Mr. Commissioner :rolleyes: ......and how much do you make a year for choices like that?
8 million ?
P.S.
On the other hand, I guess that's a bargain compared to what some C.E.O.'s get paid..............for running companies into the ground.
Penton-Man 01-24-06, 12:30 PM Not going to happen on my Q! :D
If you're a betting man................get points !
The question has been asked in these pages before, and here is the answer . . .
Netflix Will Support HD DVD and Blu-Ray at Launch (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-24-2006/0004266219&EDATE=)
This is certainly good news for all of us :)
Don't know if this is headline news or not, but I wasn't really aware that our sets had officially reached the end of production. From what I just rec'd today this may well be the case:
There are plans to incorporate QUALIA into the general Sony Home Products Division. For now, production is halted. QUALIA was never meant to be a mass produced line. Each one of these products is hand made, only in Japan. All of the QUALIA clients who purchased from us are now automatically enrolled in Cierge, Sony's exclusive invite only shopping service.
Cierge members are entitled to preferential tech support and preferential pricing on certain Sony products. I currently have inventory of the 010 headphones. Below is my contact information. I look forward to working with you.
Jonathan Doe
C I E R G E
550 Madison Ave
New York, NY 10022
:cool: :D
Only time will tell. It also heals all wounds. So, I hope you are doing well, PM.
If you're a betting man................get points !
WOW, no mention of extra fees and it would be great if we could just add a Hi-Def version of the movie to our current Q...I am over 100+ BTW!
P.S. Just logged in to my Netflix account and sent them a Thank You Email for their support of HD.
This may also help us decide which Player to buy.
The question has been asked in these pages before, and here is the answer . . .
Netflix Will Support HD DVD and Blu-Ray at Launch (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-24-2006/0004266219&EDATE=)
This is certainly good news for all of us :)
Penton-Man 01-24-06, 04:47 PM Each one of these products is hand made, only in Japan.
THAT is what some people on other threads tend to forget when comparing our 006's to our smaller cousin SXRD displays.
Penton-Man 01-24-06, 04:50 PM [B]There are plans to incorporate QUALIA into the general Sony Home Products Division. For now, production is halted.
No matter, we got ours !!!!
And some of us may be early adopters of the NEXT best thing.............
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6988696&&#post6988696
For the facts...........read the whole boring post.
For us thread-lite types :) ....just skip to the last couple sentences at the end.
Quote:
Originally Posted by brt3
Each one of these products is hand made, only in Japan.
THAT is what some people on other threads tend to forget when comparing our 006's to our smaller cousin SXRD displays.I just love that line; it always makes me think of the Keebler elves...
There are plans to incorporate QUALIA into the general Sony Home Products Division. For now, production is halted.I hope this means that Sony comes out with a 70" SXRD/XBR that incorporates some of the Q006 high-end features. The 50"/60" SXRDs are a bit far off the mark set by the Q006, IMHO. I would love to pick the brain of a Sony engineer, but I keep thinking the two biggest culprits there are optics and chip size...
I hope this means that Sony comes out with a 70" SXRD/XBR that incorporates some of the Q006 high-end features. The 50"/60" SXRDs are a bit far off the mark set by the Q006, IMHO. I would love to pick the brain of a Sony engineer, but I keep thinking the two biggest culprits there are optics and chip size...
As an XBR SXRD owner, I strongly suspect that you're right.
Each one of these products is hand made, only in Japan.
I bet some people also overlook the significance of this. My XBR SXRD has minor geometry and color-uniformity problems, and while I realize that every TV has its shortcomings, it's a little disappointing given the XBR's price (though it would inexcusable at the Q's price). I guess these things will improve as the technology matures.
thesirjay 01-24-06, 08:03 PM I think I managed to send you a message PM about a cierge. Let me know if it didn't make it (the whole track message thing threw me). I think its about time I let Sony know who I am.
Penton-Man 01-24-06, 09:26 PM I think I managed to send you a message PM about a cierge. Let me know if it didn't make it (the whole track message thing threw me). I think its about time I let Sony know who I am.
Got it.
Reply on its way.
thestewman 01-24-06, 10:55 PM Don't know if this is headline news or not, but I wasn't really aware that our sets had officially reached the end of production. From what I just rec'd today this may well be the case:
There are plans to incorporate QUALIA into the general Sony Home Products Division. For now, production is halted. QUALIA was never meant to be a mass produced line. Each one of these products is hand made, only in Japan. All of the QUALIA clients who purchased from us are now automatically enrolled in Cierge, Sony's exclusive invite only shopping service.
Cierge members are entitled to preferential tech support and preferential pricing on certain Sony products. I currently have inventory of the 010 headphones. Below is my contact information. I look forward to working with you.
Jonathan Doe
C I E R G E
550 Madison Ave
New York, NY 10022
This is seems to be Sony's normal way of doing business.
Sometime in the late 70s or early 80s Sony produced and sold a 43" Direct view TV.
It cost almost as much as three Qualia 006s. It was produced in limited quantities then discontinued.
Sony also during that period produced the best CRT television ever made at the time called the Profeel. It was a 25" directview crt.
The Profeel line morphed into todays XBR line.
I think its about time I let Sony know who I am.
Mr. Washington, step forward and identify yourself :D
This is seems to be Sony's normal way of doing business.
Sometime in the late 70s or early 80s Sony produced and sold a 43" Direct view TV.
It cost almost as much as three Qualia 006s. It was produced in limited quantities then discontinued.
Sony also during that period produced the best CRT television ever made at the time called the Profeel. It as a 25' directview crt.
The Profeel line morphed into todays XBR line.
25' direct view CRT.
What did that sucker weight? :D
The Profeel line morphed into todays XBR line.You gotta love a company that comes up with a name like "Profeel"... :D
I would still like your guy's opinion on my possible purchase of my dealers open box demo 006.
It is quite dim now, but they are offering to include a new lamp, and extend the in home warranty to 5 years. Obviously there is a significant discount off of their normal price.
Anything I should be wary of here? Is there a way to look at the total hours on the set or shouldn't I be worried about this since I'll have a 5 year warranty?
Just looking for opinions here. I could get this set ,or wait and see if 006 prices drop this spring, or possibly wait for a new 70" sxrd set. I hate to wait though.
Thanks, Rick
Rick,
I would think it would depend on what price you can get the 006 for and what condition the TV is in. With a dim bulb, you're not likely to be able to tell much. With a new bulb, I'd want to run it through some test to check for screen uniformity. Given that the bulb is dim, it would likely have a couple thousand hours, on that bulb. Who knows how many bulbs its been through. Bulb hours in the service menu can be reset, so its not a reliable way of telling how many hours is on the set.
Zechman 01-25-06, 09:29 AM Rick:
I would suggest that if it's a good price and there's no apparent physical damage, don't get hung up on the "number of hours on the set". If you replace the lamp, you've essentially gotten a brand new set. This isn't like a plasma or CRT where the dimming can't be fixed at less than the cost of a new set. There's also no color wheels or moving mirrors to break down, either. If the dealer is throwing in a new bulb, then you're good to go.
The concern I'd have is if there is anything wrong with it that is not apparent until you get it home: inputs not working, iris motor not working, things like that. If it's an open box because someone brought it back, then your likelihood of this sort of thing is much higher. If it was just a showroom demo (and only ever a showroom demo), then the chances of that kind of problem are quite low--precisely because it is a Quaila. :cool:
As long as you have a reasonable return option, I'd say go for it.
You change the bulb, you have a brand new set.
(The only moving parts are the iris motor and lamp fan.)
--Dwayne
DMP2722 01-25-06, 10:39 AM With the extended warranty and installation of a new bulb I would feel comfortable if the price was right. The Q comes with a bumper to bumper 3 year warranty that includes one bulb and all parts and labor. I would be curious if the 5 year (actually 2 year extended - I hate the symantics on these warranties call them what they are) also includes another bulb replacement and continues the bumper to bumper you current get when purchasing the Q. If so that would be another plus. Some dealers have discounted these sets new by $3000 if you are lucky.
timcolo 01-25-06, 11:41 AM Just spoke again to the store in NY and they are going to check about the "bulb timer" with the folks in California and let me know.
I just called the concierge and was told that they are not allowed to give out the information on how to access the lamp life menu on a 006. He said that people have gotten into other set up screens from there and got in trouble. I just took delivery of mine and wanted to see how many hours were on the lamp. No luck
DMP2722 01-25-06, 11:59 AM That is odd I thought this menu was a standard menu that everyone had full access to! How else would you know how many hours you have on your bulb and you should be able to check this just like the milage on your car for oil changes and service. Hum
timcolo 01-25-06, 01:46 PM Stewman,
They delivered the 006 last night. I tried to use the steps you posted to see the lamp hours but couldn't get it to work. What I got was a menu in the upper left side of the screen with a bunch of abbreviations and numbers I didn't understand. Didn't want to mess anything up so I turned the set off. Comcast is coming tomorrow to deliver the HD DVR and set up the service. I'm going to say goodbye to my Dish. Thanks for you help
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Zechman 01-25-06, 04:01 PM timcolo:
Sounds like the service menu to me. It's not supposed to be user-friendly. In fact, it's supposed to be user-hostile. :eek:
As long as you wait for the TV to fully power up before starting on the <JUMP> <JUMP> <JUMP> sequence, you'll be okay.
And despite the dire warnings people (including myself!) will give you about the service menu, you won't *change* anything as long as you stay off the <3>, <6> and <MUTE> buttons.
I do wish they'd included access to this number in the user menus and set it up so that it would automatically be reset if the lamp is removed. This is kind of fundamental to a lamp-based set.
--Dwayne
P.S. This is post number 360 for me. Somehow it seems like it should have had something to do with the XBox . . . .
...or an old IBM mainframe!
timcolo:
P.S. This is post number 360 for me. Somehow it seems like it should have had something to do with the XBox . . . .
divedude 01-25-06, 07:25 PM The question has been asked in these pages before, and here is the answer . . .
Netflix Will Support HD DVD and Blu-Ray at Launch (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-24-2006/0004266219&EDATE=)
This is certainly good news for all of us :)
jb007,
That is great news, I love Netflix :) Most of us have already seen how great Blu-ray disks look on the 006 and having them available for rent and mailed direct is a big bonus ;)
Thanks for the update.
BenDover 01-25-06, 10:20 PM use the procedure outlined either by zech, stew or brt as any of them should get you to the point where you have to hit jump a bunch of times. once at that poiint, I didn't pay any attention to how many times I hit jump since each press simply takes you to the next informational screen so I just looked at what was displayed in the upper left until I saw a lamp label :)
Some dealers have discounted these sets new by $3000 if you are lucky.
Well, the set I looked at is their dealer demo. I actually looked at this same set in the same store last fall and thought it looked great, but I didn't put it through any test material.
The store offering it is the only one in the Seattle area that carries the Qualia so not much to choose from around here for price competition. They do have a 30 day Money back policy though. The price they are quoting me is $3000.00 of of MSRP for the demo. Sounds like from what you are saying, I should be able to do better?
Thanks, Rick
thesirjay 01-26-06, 02:46 AM Mr. Washington, step forward and identify yourself :D
Heh I wish, nah just a computer geek here I don't expect to be able to make Sony quake in their japanese footwear (hmm godzilla would work for that too I imagine).
I am about to embark on the mysterious world of... Programming the Harmony 880. Any good hints? I can't wait to get the discrete input code options will be nice not to have to flash by everything to get where I want to be.
I just got the 676. One hint right off is to start with the new 4.4 version of the software and not the CD that comes with the 880 or 676. If you do not, then it finds the update and has you remove the stuff you installed from the CD anyway!
Ver 4.4 Software (http://images.harmonyremote.com/EasyZapper/Downloads/LogitechHarmonyInstaller4.4.exe)
Heh I wish, nah just a computer geek here I don't expect to be able to make Sony quake in their japanese footwear (hmm godzilla would work for that too I imagine).
I am about to embark on the mysterious world of... Programming the Harmony 880. Any good hints? I can't wait to get the discrete input code options will be nice not to have to flash by everything to get where I want to be.
timcolo 01-26-06, 12:56 PM BenDover,
Thanks for the reply. I'll give it a shot tonight.
BenDover 01-26-06, 01:06 PM Wow, a Sony Ruby Powerbuy (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=635469) ...
This is making the rounds, and sounds as though it's based on new information compared to earlier claims of the Qualia's demise. Jump to the last line...
January 26, 2006 7:18 am ET
IDG News Service
Sony reports strong earnings but unplugs Aibo
By Martyn Williams, IDG News Service
Sony Corp. reported some of its strongest quarterly earnings in several years on Thursday and upgraded its forecast for the full year. Both sales and net profits jumped to all-time highs, helped by good news from product sectors that had been problematic.
Continuing the restructuring in its electronics business, the company said it would end its Aibo robot line, stop development of its Qrio robot, stop development and manufacturing of PDP (plasma display panel) televisions, and stop selling in-car entertainment products in Japan. It will also kill its Qualia line of pricey, high-specification products.
Ouch! Couldn't they say "gently lay to rest" instead of "kill"???
I'd like to buy a new or used Qualia 006 but there are no retail dealers in my Nashville TN market.
Are these sets still readily available or scarce? If I find one to purchase, will there be an optional extended warranty offer from Sony in the box? For this type of hi-end product, wouldn't it be better for the extended warranty to be from the manufacturer rather than a third party? Has anyone here successfully purchased from any of the on line vendors that arise from a Google search?
Thanks in advance for any responses.
Chris
thestewman 01-26-06, 05:19 PM Wow, a Sony Ruby Powerbuy (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=635469) ...
Did you email him for the price ? If so, post it or PM me.
thestewman 01-26-06, 05:23 PM I'd like to buy a new or used Qualia 006 but there are no retail dealers in my Nashville TN market.
Are these sets still readily available or scarce? If I find one to purchase, will there be an optional extended warranty offer from Sony in the box? For this type of hi-end product, wouldn't it be better for the extended warranty to be from the manufacturer rather than a third party? Has anyone here successfully purchased from any of the on line vendors that arise from a Google search?
Thanks in advance for any responses.
Chris
In answer to your last question, yes
Send me a PM and I will give you the info as I am not sure if it is permissable to post it on the forum.
Zechman 01-26-06, 05:40 PM ...or an old IBM mainframe!
I decided to go with the one that had the faster CPU. ;)
--Dwayne
P.S. I did learn 360/370 Assembly in college!
Yeah, me too, along with COBOL, but I am a Hardware guy.
I decided to go with the one that had the faster CPU. ;)
--Dwayne
P.S. I did learn 360/370 Assembly in college!
divedude 01-26-06, 07:06 PM Yeah, me too, along with COBOL, but I am a Hardware guy.
Zechman and mpsan,
Did you ever use the key punch to create program cards? And have the fun of trying to reorder a stack of dropped cards :eek:
BenDover 01-26-06, 10:28 PM Did you email him for the price ? If so, post it or PM me.
no, are you kidding, the act alone would land me in the dog house.
last time I did that I had a Q006 show up at my house :)
OH, Yeah...remind us of that! Remember when we finally went to tape with the Mohawk key to tape units?
Zechman and mpsan,
Did you ever use the key punch to create program cards? And have the fun of trying to reorder a stack of dropped cards :eek:
Sevenfeet 01-27-06, 12:09 AM I'd like to buy a new or used Qualia 006 but there are no retail dealers in my Nashville TN market.
Are these sets still readily available or scarce? If I find one to purchase, will there be an optional extended warranty offer from Sony in the box? For this type of hi-end product, wouldn't it be better for the extended warranty to be from the manufacturer rather than a third party? Has anyone here successfully purchased from any of the on line vendors that arise from a Google search?
Thanks in advance for any responses.
Chris
I thought HiFi Buys on Nolensville Rd sold Sony Qualia.
Zechman 01-27-06, 08:30 AM Zechman and mpsan,
Did you ever use the key punch to create program cards? And have the fun of trying to reorder a stack of dropped cards :eek:
Thankfully, I'm not actually that, well, old. My computing experience goes back to early 80's micros and then later the mainframes that were still around--which I avoided as best I could (along with COBOL--blecchh!!!).
One of my brothers, who is 9 years older and also a Compter Science major, did do the punch card dance and knows more COBOL than anybody else I know (and I know a lot of computer people).
I only go back as far as saving programs to cassette tapes. :o
--Dwayne
thestewman 01-27-06, 01:38 PM Thankfully, I'm not actually that, well, old. My computing experience goes back to early 80's micros and then later the mainframes that were still around--which I avoided as best I could (along with COBOL--blecchh!!!).
One of my brothers, who is 9 years older and also a Compter Science major, did do the punch card dance and knows more COBOL than anybody else I know (and I know a lot of computer people).
I only go back as far as saving programs to cassette tapes. :o
--Dwayne
You would have enjoyed working with the large diameter rolls of punched paper tape that were used to store data amd programs. I can still hear the daily chatter of the ASR 33 teletypes punching out the tapes.
...and when there was a parity error because of a rip in the tape, we would force it to read and fix the error!
You would have enjoyed working with the large diameter rolls of punched paper tape that were used to store data amd programs. I can still hear the daily chatter of the ASR 33 teletypes punching out the tapes.
BenDover 01-27-06, 03:14 PM ...and when there was a parity error because of a rip in the tape, we would force it to read and fix the error!
hmmm, mpsan_ECC ?
Looks like the Toshiba HD-DVD unit is now available for pre-order:
Toshiba HD-A1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E1PTGK/ref=amb_link_33378801_3/103-3848783-0864647?n=172282)
Nope...straight parity bit. It was OCTAL...6 bits...with a 7th for parity. We would set Ignore memory error and then read memory from the large console. Say we decoded DA*ID...then we would assume that the bad location should be a V. We would not, however fix Number errors!
hmmm, mpsan_ECC ?
...so, will Sony stopping Qualia have any meaning to us? No free lamp???
divedude 01-27-06, 05:58 PM ...so, will Sony stopping Qualia have any meaning to us? No free lamp???
mpsan,
As long as Sony is in business, they should honor their commitment.
gazelle 01-27-06, 06:10 PM Slightly OT - but not really: Just a heads-up for those HDTV owners, especially 1080P HDTV owners, and especially Sony SXRD & Qualia Owners: Mark Cuban's HDTVNet in cooperation with Steven Soderbergh is co-premiering the Grand Opening of Soderbergh's critically-acclaimed "Bubble" which received raves and many Four Star reviews in today's papers tonight on HDNet at 9PM & 11PM EDT simultaneously with the film's release nationwide to theaters! It has been filmed in high quality 1080i and Cuban along with Sony execs have been touting this historical showing as really being eye candy to show off the Qualia & SXRDs PQ and Video Processing capabilities, as well as being a great story and Soderbergh's best work to date.
"Steven Soderbergh's "Bubble" approaches with awe and caution the rhythms of ordinary life. His characters work ordinary, low-paying jobs. Their speech is such a monotone of commonplaces that we have to guess how they really feel, and sometimes, i suspect so do they. I haven't made this movie sound enthralling. but it is. "Bubble" becomes quietly, inexorably, hypnotic. Movie-Making at it's finest. **** Stars:" --- Roger Ebert
This is just a taste of what lays ahead for quality HDTV. Bravo to Mark Cuban & Steven Soderbergh for their vision! :D :D :D :D
divedude 01-27-06, 06:30 PM Just got back from the hospital. Had my medi-port removed, since I don't need it for cancer treatment anymore :D But for some reason the post-opt pain is a lot more than it was to have it installed :eek: The morphine didn't do much to help. I guess all those Vicodin I was taking must have really reduced the effect that pain meds have on me. So I guess I will have to rely on the Qualia 006 to get me through ;)
Mini Dive is trying to help by calling on the spirits of the Witch Doctors . . .
thestewman 01-27-06, 06:39 PM Slightly OT - but not really: Just a heads-up for those HDTV owners, especially 1080P HDTV owners, and especially Sony SXRD & Qualia Owners: Mark Cuban's HDTVNet in cooperation with Steven Soderbergh is co-premiering the Grand Opening of Soderbergh's critically-acclaimed "Bubble" which received raves and many Four Star reviews in today's papers tonight on HDNet at 9PM & 11PM EDT simultaneously with the film's release nationwide to theaters! It has been filmed in high quality 1080i and Cuban along with Sony execs have been touting this historical showing as really being eye candy to show off the Qualia & SXRDs PQ and Video Processing capabilities, as well as being a great story and Soderbergh's best work to date.
"Steven Soderbergh's "Bubble" approaches with awe and caution the rhythms of ordinary life. His characters work ordinary, low-paying jobs. Their speech is such a monotone of commonplaces that we have to guess how they really feel, and sometimes, i suspect so do they. I haven't made this movie sound enthralling. but it is. "Bubble" becomes quietly, inexorably, hypnotic. Movie-Making at it's finest. **** Stars:" --- Roger Ebert
This is just a taste of what lays ahead for quality HDTV. Bravo to Mark Cuban & Steven Soderbergh for their vision! :D :D :D :D
But a big thumbs down to Comcast and the other cable companies for not carrying HDNET
Great. I am sure I do not have a lot of time on my lamp, but would sure like a spare! IF we are not "supposed" to get into the service menu, then I may request it already!
mpsan,
As long as Sony is in business, they should honor their commitment.
divedude 01-27-06, 06:41 PM Slightly OT - but not really: Just a heads-up for those HDTV owners, especially 1080P HDTV owners, and especially Sony SXRD & Qualia Owners: Mark Cuban's HDTVNet in cooperation with Steven Soderbergh is co-premiering the Grand Opening of Soderbergh's critically-acclaimed "Bubble" which received raves and many Four Star reviews in today's papers tonight on HDNet at 9PM & 11PM EDT simultaneously with the film's release nationwide to theaters! It has been filmed in high quality 1080i and Cuban along with Sony execs have been touting this historical showing as really being eye candy to show off the Qualia & SXRDs PQ and Video Processing capabilities, as well as being a great story and Soderbergh's best work to date.
"Steven Soderbergh's "Bubble" approaches with awe and caution the rhythms of ordinary life. His characters work ordinary, low-paying jobs. Their speech is such a monotone of commonplaces that we have to guess how they really feel, and sometimes, i suspect so do they. I haven't made this movie sound enthralling. but it is. "Bubble" becomes quietly, inexorably, hypnotic. Movie-Making at it's finest. **** Stars:" --- Roger Ebert
This is just a taste of what lays ahead for quality HDTV. Bravo to Mark Cuban & Steven Soderbergh for their vision! :D :D :D :D\
gazelle,
Thanks for the heads-up. Just set my HDTiVo to record it.
divedude 01-27-06, 06:48 PM Great. I am sure I do not have a lot of time on my lamp, but would sure like a spare! IF we are not "supposed" to get into the service menu, then I may request it already!
mpsan,
It doesn't hurt to have a spare bulb :)
Yeah...I will have to look up the number to call again!
mpsan,
It doesn't hurt to have a spare bulb :)
thestewman 01-27-06, 09:20 PM Great. I am sure I do not have a lot of time on my lamp, but would sure like a spare! IF we are not "supposed" to get into the service menu, then I may request it already!
"Not supposed to " That is not the response I received. I called the 800 Qualia number and a concierge offered to walk through entering the service menu and obtaining the bulb hours for me "step by step".
Remember of course to tell them the set looks dim.
The bulb arrives by overnight Fed Express.
thestewman 01-27-06, 09:22 PM Anyone interested, I have the name of an authorized Sony dealer with 5 Qualia 006's in stock who ships anywhere. You will have to cut your own deal.
I thought HiFi Buys on Nolensville Rd sold Sony Qualia.
Rick,
Thanks for the "head's up" on HiFi Buys on Nolensville Rd. Based on your post, I went right over there and came away with a deal on a Sony Qualia 006 substantially below list with free delivery and set-up from an authorized dealer.
You saved me a ton of time and anguish! This AVS community has helped me countless times and I hope I can "pass it on" in the future.
Chris
divedude 01-28-06, 12:10 PM Rick,
Thanks for the "head's up" on HiFi Buys on Nolensville Rd. Based on your post, I went right over there and came away with a deal on a Sony Qualia 006 substantially below list with free delivery and set-up from an authorized dealer.
You saved me a ton of time and anguish! This AVS community has helped me countless times and I hope I can "pass it on" in the future.
Chris
cargen,
Congratulations :D You are going to love the 006 ;)
divedude 01-28-06, 01:22 PM SAD NEWS
It is with the saddest heart that I must pass on the following news. Please join me in remembering a great icon of the entertainment community. The Pillsbury Doughboy died yesterday of a yeast infection and trauma complications from repeated pokes in the belly. He was 71.
Doughboy was buried in a lightly greased coffin. Dozens of celebrities turned out to pay their respects, including Mrs.Butterworth, Hungry Jack, the California Raisins, Betty Crocker, the Hostess Twinkies, and Captain Crunch. The grave site was piled high with flours. Aunt Jemima delivered the eulogy and lovingly described Doughboy as a man who never knew how much he was kneaded. Doughboy rose quickly in show business, but his later life was filled with turnovers. He was not considered a very smart cookie, wasting much of his dough on half-baked schemes. Despite being a little flaky at times he was still a crusty old man and was considered a roll model for millions.
Doughboy is survived by his wife, Play Dough, two children, John Dough and Jane Dough, plus they had one in the oven. He is also survived by his elderly dad, Pop Tart. The funeral was held at 3:50 for about 20 minutes.
The funeral was held at 3:50 for about 20 minutes.Cremation IS the best way to go about these things...
DD this is bad! We can only remember him as the person whose voice never grew up.
Was he really 71 ?!!!!
SAD NEWS
It is with the saddest heart that I must pass on the following news. Please join me in remembering a great icon of the entertainment community. The Pillsbury Doughboy died yesterday of a yeast infection and trauma complications from repeated pokes in the belly. He was 71.
Doughboy was buried in a lightly greased coffin. Dozens of celebrities turned out to pay their respects, including Mrs.Butterworth, Hungry Jack, the California Raisins, Betty Crocker, the Hostess Twinkies, and Captain Crunch. The grave site was piled high with flours. Aunt Jemima delivered the eulogy and lovingly described Doughboy as a man who never knew how much he was kneaded. Doughboy rose quickly in show business, but his later life was filled with turnovers. He was not considered a very smart cookie, wasting much of his dough on half-baked schemes. Despite being a little flaky at times he was still a crusty old man and was considered a roll model for millions.
Doughboy is survived by his wife, Play Dough, two children, John Dough and Jane Dough, plus they had one in the oven. He is also survived by his elderly dad, Pop Tart. The funeral was held at 3:50 for about 20 minutes.
divedude 01-28-06, 02:36 PM DD this is bad! We can only remember him as the person whose voice never grew up.
Was he really 71 ?!!!!
mpsan,
That's what the expiration date said.
It's... The Dancin' Doughboy! (http://www.pillsbury.com/AALL/default.aspx?subpage=dancin)
divedude 01-28-06, 05:41 PM It's... The Dancin' Doughboy! (http://www.pillsbury.com/AALL/default.aspx?subpage=dancin)
brt3,
The Mini's are flipin' over the Doughboy Dance . . .
Penton-Man 01-28-06, 08:22 PM Slightly OT - but not really
This is just a taste of what lays ahead for quality HDTV. Bravo to Mark Cuban & Steven Soderbergh for their vision! :D :D :D :D
Bravo indeed !!!!!!!!
Thanks for the heads up but, alas like the stewman, my cable co. doesn't give me that channel. :mad:
In regards to "slightly OT", never worry about that, you are ALWAYS welcome here. I truly enjoy your postings on other threads as well.
Bravo indeed! Thanks for the heads up but, alas like the stewman, my cable co. doesn't give me that channel. :mad:Mark Cuban gave one of the very best quotes I've ever heard:
How sad is it when the President of the National Assoc of Theater Owners doesnt think his members can create a better movie going experience than what we can see in our houses and apartments?
Here's the link to the rest (http://www.blogmaverick.com/entry/1234000010073495/) -- it's a great read!
divedude 01-28-06, 09:40 PM PM,
How is your recovery coming? Mini Dive says get well soon :)
Penton-Man 01-28-06, 10:05 PM PM,
How is your recovery coming? Mini Dive says get well soon :)
Thanks for asking.
This is the first day that I've felt semi-normal in quite awhile................so, I got on my bike to do a training ride and kick a bunch of 20 year olds arses.
Penton-Man 01-28-06, 10:07 PM Slightly OT - but not really: Just a heads-up for those HDTV owners, especially 1080P HDTV owners, and especially Sony SXRD & Qualia Owners: Mark Cuban's HDTVNet in cooperation with Steven Soderbergh is co-premiering the Grand Opening of Soderbergh's critically-acclaimed "Bubble" which received raves and many Four Star reviews in today's papers tonight on HDNet at 9PM & 11PM EDT simultaneously with the film's release nationwide to theaters! It has been filmed in high quality 1080i and Cuban along with Sony execs have been touting this historical showing as really being eye candy to show off the Qualia & SXRDs PQ and Video Processing capabilities, as well as being a great story and Soderbergh's best work to date.
This is just a taste of what lays ahead for quality HDTV. Bravo to Mark Cuban & Steven Soderbergh for their vision! :D :D :D :D
Not only that….check and compare the DVD release date with the theatrical release date.
http://movies.aol.com/movie/main.adp?_pgtyp=pdct&mid=23492
Ummmm, to all those people that invested in any stocks related to their local Cineplex’s………….GET OUT NOW !
You aint never going to recoup the losses you’ve ALREADY suffered.
Penton-Man 01-28-06, 10:10 PM brt,
I got your PM, yup, I knew about DW.
Sounds to me like you were speaking to Kelsey ?sp. or Sarah.
Funny thing is, us Qualians actually probably know alot more inside Sony stuff than all the cierges combined. :eek:
Hi guys,
I have 60 inch sxrd which I like quite a bit but it does have the green blobl/haze/cloud thing at startup which fades down but still seems can have some residual that can be seen in the active picture at least for an hour or so.
I saw one qualia at the store in my city that had some green haze visible on memory stick test.
Guys on my sxrd forum said you quailia guys have no green blob/haze/cloud issues.
But cuious..
Do you guys get green block/haze /cloud on warmup of your sets that fade after roughly 5 minutes to basic invisibility like most sxrd 50 and 60 owners seem to get and could some of you guys try this test.Push memory stick button with no memory stick inserted and check to see if you have any slight green haze/cloud/blob thing happening on your sets since they are also lcos like the smaller 50 and 60 inch sets.
This light green is visible best on pro setting on warm or possibly neutral color temp settings not as vsible on viivid and might be less visible if you have tweaked down the green on your advanced menu settings or white balance settings not sure what qualia has for this.
I did see some green haze on that demo set on memory stick test.
Thanks for your help in this matter.I may try to get another sxrd 60 out of sony or might try to get a quaila set on trade up.
bernster2001 01-29-06, 11:15 AM Happen to being staying at Caesars in LV for vacation. Stopped by Sonystyles Qualia store and spoke to Gael, the concierge who sold me my 006 1 yr ago. He indicated that Sony will contine manufacturing and selling 004 and 006, but the rest of the Qualia line is history. Future distribution will not be through elite Qualia division but rather through all Sony stores and other retailers who carry Sony.
Is that true of the Q006 about being sold thru normal stores? I remember that when I bought my Q the dealer was starting to feel like Sony sold them on something that never happened. He never felt that it was exclusive to highend stores and he was told that they would never be discounted. Something that did not hold true right from the start. Two dealers up here feel the same way!
Happen to being staying at Caesars in LV for vacation. Stopped by Sonystyles Qualia store and spoke to Gael, the concierge who sold me my 006 1 yr ago. He indicated that Sony will contine manufacturing and selling 004 and 006, but the rest of the Qualia line is history. Future distribution will not be through elite Qualia division but rather through all Sony stores and other retailers who carry Sony.
Al, I have never seen this on MY Q. Perhaps others will also confirm.
Hi guys,
I have 60 inch sxrd which I like quite a bit but it does have the green blobl/haze/cloud thing at startup which fades down but still seems can have some residual that can be seen in the active picture at least for an hour or so.
I saw one qualia at the store in my city that had some green haze visible on memory stick test.
Guys on my sxrd forum said you quailia guys have no green blob/haze/cloud issues.
But cuious..
Do you guys get green block/haze /cloud on warmup of your sets that fade after roughly 5 minutes to basic invisibility like most sxrd 50 and 60 owners seem to get and could some of you guys try this test.Push memory stick button with no memory stick inserted and check to see if you have any slight green haze/cloud/blob thing happening on your sets since they are also lcos like the smaller 50 and 60 inch sets.
This light green is visible best on pro setting on warm or possibly neutral color temp settings not as vsible on viivid and might be less visible if you have tweaked down the green on your advanced menu settings or white balance settings not sure what qualia has for this.
I did see some green haze on that demo set on memory stick test.
Thanks for your help in this matter.I may try to get another sxrd 60 out of sony or might try to get a quaila set on trade up.
divedude 01-29-06, 12:51 PM Hi guys,
I have 60 inch sxrd which I like quite a bit but it does have the green blobl/haze/cloud thing at startup which fades down but still seems can have some residual that can be seen in the active picture at least for an hour or so.
I saw one qualia at the store in my city that had some green haze visible on memory stick test.
Guys on my sxrd forum said you quailia guys have no green blob/haze/cloud issues.
But cuious..
Do you guys get green block/haze /cloud on warmup of your sets that fade after roughly 5 minutes to basic invisibility like most sxrd 50 and 60 owners seem to get and could some of you guys try this test.Push memory stick button with no memory stick inserted and check to see if you have any slight green haze/cloud/blob thing happening on your sets since they are also lcos like the smaller 50 and 60 inch sets.
This light green is visible best on pro setting on warm or possibly neutral color temp settings not as vsible on viivid and might be less visible if you have tweaked down the green on your advanced menu settings or white balance settings not sure what qualia has for this.
I did see some green haze on that demo set on memory stick test.
Thanks for your help in this matter.I may try to get another sxrd 60 out of sony or might try to get a quaila set on trade up.
Sorry Al, not seeing it the way mine is setup. If a person adjusts the colors enough, you can get the set to feature any color you want it to.
Thanks guys.Maybe not 100% clear actually asking two things.
First at cold startup do you see any green cloud/haze/blob for a few minutes as the set warms up that fades down pretty much completely?
Second if you push the memory stick button with no memory stick and look at the screen set to grey menu can you see any very faint greenish cloud/haze/blob?
Or have you ever noticed any greenish haze/cloud /blob in a black and white show or at any time on active picture?
The one qualia I did see had the greenish very faint cloud on memory stick settting but dind't notice it in active picture.Didn't play with it much though.These greenish areas are more noticeable on warm or neutral less on cool color temp.
AL B, if the green haze bothers you that much, then call Sony and get them to replace your set. However, I think your research has shown that the vast majority of the XBR SXRD's have the green hue to some extent, so I expect it's just a way of life. If you think Sony's going to give you a Qualia to replace your "defective" XBR though, you're dreaming. The Q is a $13K set and the XBR is a $5K set...quite frankly I'd expect the XBR to show anomalies that the Q doesn't.
Anyway, sorry to hijack the Q thread. The problems with the XBR all boil down to the old adage - "you get what you pay for". Even with the green problem, the XBR still beats 99% of the HD sets out there. It just ain't gonna beat a Q. FWIW, I have an XBR, so I'm not biased toward the Q.
divedude 01-29-06, 03:00 PM AL B, if the green haze bothers you that much, then call Sony and get them to replace your set. However, I think your research has shown that the vast majority of the XBR SXRD's have the green hue to some extent, so I expect it's just a way of life. If you think Sony's going to give you a Qualia to replace your "defective" XBR though, you're dreaming. The Q is a $13K set and the XBR is a $5K set...quite frankly I'd expect the XBR to show anomalies that the Q doesn't.
Anyway, sorry to hijack the Q thread. The problems with the XBR all boil down to the old adage - "you get what you pay for". Even with the green problem, the XBR still beats 99% of the HD sets out there. It just ain't gonna beat a Q. FWIW, I have an XBR, so I'm not biased toward the Q.
Schwa,
Thank you. We all fell bad that the SXRD sets are having a problem and really hope Sony is able to resolve it soon.
I was not expecting a qualia for my sxrd 60.I was thinking if got a refund on my set could mabye go up to a qualia.Local dealer i Know willl sell it very reasonably to me so that could make it a possibilty and after reading your threads most of you guys seem happy with it.It was impressive from the little I have seen of it so far at the store.
Only trying to figure out if the green at startup is a lcos thing.So you qualia guys are saying you get no green at startup at all for 5 minutes or so?
And I definitely did notice a green haze area roughly center on memory stick test on the quaila I looked at .Its possible its a side effect on all lcos sets but is quite subtle after initial warmup on most of the sxrd sets.
I would hope the quailia for what it costs would be pretty much flawless.
I would hope the quailia for what it costs would be pretty much flawless.
That's true! For what I paid for my SXRD, I don't expect perfection, but for more than double the price, I certainly would!
AL
When I compare a Canon camera raw file to a jpeg file made from the camera raw file, the jpeg typically looks a tiny bit green. Maybe just be a side effect of jpegs that you're seeing.
AL
When I compare a Canon camera raw file to a jpeg file made from the camera raw file, the jpeg typically looks a tiny bit green. Maybe just be a side effect of jpegs that you're seeing.
Yes, I find it odd that Al is the only one who sees it on the Qualia. Qualia owners don't.
J
divedude 01-29-06, 04:28 PM I was not expecting a qualia for my sxrd 60.I was thinking if got a refund on my set could mabye go up to a qualia.Local dealer i Know willl sell it very reasonably to me so that could make it a possibilty and after reading your threads most of you guys seem happy with it.It was impressive from the little I have seen of it so far at the store.
Only trying to figure out if the green at startup is a lcos thing.So you qualia guys are saying you get no green at startup at all for 5 minutes or so?
And I definitely did notice a green haze area roughly center on memory stick test on the quaila I looked at .Its possible its a side effect on all lcos sets but is quite subtle after initial warmup on most of the sxrd sets.
I would hope the quailia for what it costs would be pretty much flawless.
Al,
I have never seen green during any startup. We paid a lot of money for these sets and if there were problems, we would raising the devil. I for one don't put up with substandard anything. With the 006, you get what you pay for. :D
Al, I have never seen this on MY Q. Perhaps others will also confirm.
I've never seen any green haze or blobs etc. on my Q.
Only gorgeous pictures.
I just saw some Windows Media Video HD for the first time on my Q using my new HTPC.
All I can say is WOW!!!!!!!
Blu Ray will be spectacular.
Just noticed that my last post was 9900.
We're almost there!
JB007, who started this great thread, should be given the honor of post #10,000 so when we get to 9990 let's all let JB post a 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, etc. sequence and then number 10,000.
When we get to the 9980's someone should post a reminder...
I've never seen any green haze or blobs etc. on my Q.
Only gorgeous pictures.
I just saw some Windows Media Video HD for the first time on my Q using my new HTPC.
All I can say is WOW!!!!!!!
Blu Ray will be spectacular.
What I saw, by the way, were clips of WMVHD that came stored on one of my hard drives. I'm not sure, but I guess, it must be 720p video, and it was spectacular.
1080i blu-ray will be even better, deinterlaced to 1080p by the Q.
Can't wait!!
camchow 01-29-06, 05:38 PM sorry to hear about the sxrd set has problems
the Q is not perfect but so far so very very good
still pic perfect
Actually, the Q can have issues. It looks like I'm going to have to call Sony to have a look at mine. It started getting a rectangular yellow area in the center. I thought it might be the bulb (1740 hours on it), so I swapped it out. No Joy. As a matter of fact it looks like brighter areas are doing some funky things too. We shall see...
divedude 01-29-06, 06:42 PM Actually, the Q can have issues. It looks like I'm going to have to call Sony to have a look at mine. It started getting a rectangular yellow area in the center. I thought it might be the bulb (1740 hours on it), so I swapped it out. No Joy. As a matter of fact it looks like brighter areas are doing some funky things too. We shall see...
Joe C5,
Sorry to hear you are having problems. Please let us know what they find. Even the best electronics can have problems, but thankfully problems on the 006 are very few and far in between.
And to answer any future questions from other threads, I am not seeing yellow areas on mine. ;)
Some more notes after having Jeff of Accucal calibrate my Qualia. Thought I'd post these, even though they're not truly useful unless you're comparing apples to apples: identical gray scale, etc.. In my case a gamma shift (improperly set at the factory) was causing me to really skew some other settings to compensate. Again, I can't emphasize enough how worthwhile Jeff's service is; he took a fantastic set that I was really enjoying and made it spectacular. I continue to be stunned by the increased level of detail he brought out; thing ruthlessly reveals HD compression artifacts, even on DVHS...
Here are my current setting on Video 6, a Moto/Comcast 6412 over HDMI:
Picture Mode: PRO
Picture: 58
Brightness: 31
Color: 23
Hue: G3 -- I'm assuming this is an option in the Service Menu
Sharpness: 25
Color Temp: Warm
Noise Reduction: Off
Direct Mode: ON
Cinema Black Pro: ON
Color Space: Wide
Color Corrector: Off
DTE: Off
Clear White: Off
Detail Enhancer: Off
Black Corrector: Off
Gamma Corrector: Off
Q and Harmony question...
As you know, I got the 676 now that it has a 5 Penton Paper rebate!
It does wonders for the Q and selects the input directly. I do have a question, however.
When all is OFF, if I do a Watch DVD it is correct. Sometimes if I do a Watch TV, it comes up on DVD. If I press it again (with everything on), it goes to the Motorola STB as it should.
This has only "failed" from a power off state and my STB is always on. So, Q owners, did you adjust timing for the Q in the Harmony, or did I just not have the remote aimed right?
TIA,
Dave
Penton-Man 01-29-06, 07:22 PM Only trying to figure out if the green at startup is a lcos thing.So you qualia guys are saying you get no green at startup at all for 5 minutes or so?
And I definitely did notice a green haze area roughly center on memory stick test on the quaila I looked at .Its possible its a side effect on all lcos sets but is quite subtle after initial warmup on most of the sxrd sets.
Sorry fella, no abnormal colors noted on my unit.
The caveat being of course, a friend of mine that watched an NFL game one weekend was complaining about some blue color issues that I was NOT seeing.
Let's just say he was overdosing himself on that little blue pill as his woody wouldn't get woody during the expectant time with his wife.
Penton-Man 01-29-06, 07:30 PM Some more notes after having Jeff of Accucal calibrate my Qualia.
Since I couldn't get our schedules to synchronize and achieve a umr calibration, I believe, I did the next best thing........................................
Today I went to Home Depot and bought a roll of RG 6 coax cable.
Dug a ditch from that cable box thingee in the ground in front of my house to that cable box thingee on the side of my house and replaced the ancient RG 59? with RG 6 -
It really made a significant different in P/Q on all displays in my house. :)
I worked off a few more calories.
I didn't have to call my local cable co. to beg them to do it.
It made the day of my bored, nosey neighbor across the street who always lurks in the shadows of his garage. :eek:
Sorry fella, no abnormal colors noted on my unit.
The caveat being of course, a friend of mine that watched an NFL game one weekend was complaining about some blue color issues that I was NOT seeing.
Let's just say he was overdosing himself on that little blue pill as his woody wouldn't get woody during the expectant time with his wife.Videophiles take note: Cialis gives more accurate color rendition than Viagra. We shouldn't erect any more barriers to an accurate and enjoyable video experience...
:rolleyes: (groan!)
h2osports 01-29-06, 07:34 PM This is way OT, but DD is definitely not alone in his lusting after Jessica Alba. According to an AP story datelined today "Alba Tops Among Guys, AskMen.com Reports." :)
Be skiing ya,
DSG
Penton-Man 01-29-06, 07:35 PM Q and Harmony question...
As you know, I got the 676 now that it has a 5 Penton Paper rebate!
It does wonders for the Q and selects the input directly. I do have a question, however.
Perhaps my next new toy ????
http://www.tivolovers.com/252572.html
My question to the Qualia geeks is .....what is SATA ?
Penton-Man 01-29-06, 07:37 PM When we get to the 9980's someone should post a reminder...
When we get to 9998, will someone please remind me to duck for cover in case we get another jovial guest appearance from you know who. :rolleyes:
Penton-Man 01-29-06, 07:39 PM This is way OT, but DD is definitely not alone in his lusting after Jessica Alba. According to an AP story datelined today "Alba Tops Among Guys, AskMen.com Reports." :)
Be skiing ya,
DSG
I'll bet you would love to see her in some water skiing movie doin all dem fancy turns and jumps. :D
Nice to see you're still alive and kicking.
Welcome back.
SATA = Fast data transfer. Often abbreviated SATA or S-ATA, an evolution of the Parallel ATA physical storage interface. Serial ATA is a serial link -- a single cable with a minimum of four wires creates a point-to-point connection between devices. Transfer rates for Serial ATA begin at 150 MBps and SATA II 300MBps. One of the main design advantages of Serial ATA is that the thinner serial cables facilitate more efficient airflow inside a form factor and also allow for smaller chassis designs. ...
Penton-Man 01-29-06, 07:48 PM :eek: Well rack one up on your "factoid" list .
Penton-Man 01-29-06, 07:53 PM In my case a gamma shift (improperly set at the factory) was causing me to really skew some other settings to compensate. Again, I can't emphasize enough how worthwhile Jeff's service is
Is it me or do ALOT of displays from ALOT of manufacturers out there suffer from gamma issues when they leave the factory.
What's with THAT ?
Perhaps that's a umr question if nobody here knows.
:eek: Well rack one up on your "factoid" list .Basically, it just means if you buy anything new, make certain it has SATA drives. They have much better throughput, which makes a big difference for video files. I think the new Moto/Comcast HD-DVR boxes use SATA drives...
Is it me or do ALOT of displays from ALOT of manufacturers out there suffer from gamma issues when they leave the factory.
What's with THAT ?
Perhaps that's a umr question if nobody here knows.Jeff told me that two or three of the early-production Qualia 006s he's calibrated have had this problem. It seems like a pretty major QC "miss", as this is such a fundamental setting around which many things revolve. Maybe someone on the line was unclear regarding which button to press to SAVE settings under the service menu?
h2osports 01-29-06, 08:04 PM I'll bet you would love to see her in some water skiing movie doin all dem fancy turns and jumps. :D
Nice to see you're still alive and kicking.
Welcome back.
Thanks for the "Welcome Back" PM!
I've been keeping up with this thread & others, because I haven't (as they say on this forum) "pulled the trigger" yet on a new TV (Q or otherwise).
To be sure, Ms. Alba would look absolutely stunning in a water skiing/wakeboarding video. Though I suspect her fee for such an appearance would be way beyond the marketing budget of any water sports company. :)
Also, glad to hear your recovery from the biking spill is progessing nicely. I'm just a couple of years "behind" you and I know how the body heals more slowly at our age. :)
Be skiing ya,
DSG
thestewman 01-29-06, 08:05 PM I've never seen any green haze or blobs etc. on my Q.
Only gorgeous pictures.
I just saw some Windows Media Video HD for the first time on my Q using my new HTPC.
All I can say is WOW!!!!!!!
Blu Ray will be spectacular.
nhey
Was the WMV better than OT and what ever your other source of HD video is at present ?
What connection method are you using between the HTPC and the Q ?
Stew
divedude 01-29-06, 08:07 PM This is way OT, but DD is definitely not alone in his lusting after Jessica Alba. According to an AP story datelined today "Alba Tops Among Guys, AskMen.com Reports." :)
Be skiing ya,
DSG
The competition's killing me :eek:
Just in case ya'll forgot what JA looks like . . .
Yes, my system has a 1/2 terabyte SATA RAID 0 and a 160GB SATA Raid 0. Very fast and I would believe with the very small cable it would be a good feature on a recorder...perhaps support external SATA so we could add storage!
Basically, it just means if you buy anything new, make certain it has SATA drives. They have much better throughput, which makes a big difference for video files. I think the new Moto/Comcast HD-DVR boxes use SATA drives...
PM, any idea of how much it will record with the stock Drive? I assume I can use it with Comcast.
Perhaps my next new toy ????
http://www.tivolovers.com/252572.html
My question to the Qualia geeks is .....what is SATA ?
thestewman 01-29-06, 09:57 PM Some more notes after having Jeff of Accucal calibrate my Qualia. Thought I'd post these, even though they're not truly useful unless you're comparing apples to apples: identical gray scale, etc.. In my case a gamma shift (improperly set at the factory) was causing me to really skew some other settings to compensate. Again, I can't emphasize enough how worthwhile Jeff's service is; he took a fantastic set that I was really enjoying and made it spectacular. I continue to be stunned by the increased level of detail he brought out; thing ruthlessly reveals HD compression artifacts, even on DVHS...
Here are my current setting on Video 6, a Moto/Comcast 6412 over HDMI:
Picture Mode: PRO
Picture: 58
Brightness: 31
Color: 23
Hue: G3 -- I'm assuming this is an option in the Service Menu
Sharpness: 25
Color Temp: Warm
Noise Reduction: Off
Direct Mode: ON
Cinema Black Pro: ON
Color Space: Wide
Color Corrector: Off
DTE: Off
Clear White: Off
Detail Enhancer: Off
Black Corrector: Off
Gamma Corrector: Off
brt3
Guess Sony QT was working overtime on the hand made Qualia 006.
My UMR calibration was nearly identical
My Color was 33 instead of 23 and the Hue was 0.
All other setting by UMR on my set are the same as yours.
thestewman 01-29-06, 10:20 PM Jeff told me that two or three of the early-production Qualia 006s he's calibrated have had this problem. It seems like a pretty major QC "miss", as this is such a fundamental setting around which many things revolve. Maybe someone on the line was unclear regarding which button to press to SAVE settings under the service menu?
My Gamma was almost perfect. But the 006 must have overdosed on Viagra after having Alba on screen because the picture was too blue.
thestewman 01-29-06, 10:27 PM Perhaps my next new toy ????
http://www.tivolovers.com/252572.html
My question to the Qualia geeks is .....what is SATA ?
PM
The Sata, USB and Ethernet jacks are great but it has no Firewire.
The Motorola 6412 forum says Comcast is supposed to update the 6412 we have soon with Tivo software.
thestewman 01-29-06, 10:32 PM Basically, it just means if you buy anything new, make certain it has SATA drives. They have much better throughput, which makes a big difference for video files. I think the new Moto/Comcast HD-DVR boxes use SATA drives...
brt3
Problem with the Comcast/Moto box is the Sata, Ethernet and USB connections are not turned on. Only the Firewire is activated and that is because it was mandated by the FCC.
Problem with the Comcast/Moto box is the Sata, Ethernet and USB connections are not turned on. Only the Firewire is activated and that is because it was mandated by the FCC.Agreed, and it's a BIG problem IMHO. There's nowhere NEAR enough storage on these drives, and I would like to be able to plug a nice, fat, 500GB drive into the back of my box to increase it's available recording time. Have been hanging out on the 6412 thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7023374#post7023374) in hopes that someone might someday have a workaround for this...
thestewman 01-29-06, 11:23 PM Penton Man
This might help you heal faster.
NEW YORK - More guys want Jessica Alba for their girlfriend than any other woman, according to AskMen.com’s top 99 list for 2006.
Jessica Alba News Page (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11093935/)
Maybe you should hide this from the Mrs Penton Man.
Penton-Man 01-29-06, 11:26 PM PM
The Sata, USB and Ethernet jacks are great but it has no Firewire.
The Motorola 6412 forum says Comcast is supposed to update the 6412 we have soon with Tivo software.
I know, I know, Tivo could have hit a home run out of the park if they offered firewire but, my thinking is that with its internal storage (250 Gig ?) and the add-on external storage (I guessing about another 125 Gig) THAT is a helluva a lot more storage than I’m currently getting with my Moxi DVR from Adelphia……….now I get a WHOPPING 7 hr. of HD storage from my …………….80 gig Moxi hard disk !!!!!!!!
So, for the upcoming Olympics, I can plan on either being a shut-in and not missing anything or missing quite alot of stuff if indeed the networks offer abundant HD programming for this event.
Penton-Man 01-29-06, 11:28 PM PM, any idea of how much it will record with the stock Drive? I assume I can use it with Comcast.
See my above post.
I don't think the storage capacity has been finalized in stone but it's probably a good estimate at this point.
Penton-Man 01-29-06, 11:32 PM brt3
Problem with the Comcast/Moto box is the Sata, Ethernet and USB connections are not turned on. Only the Firewire is activated and that is because it was mandated by the FCC.
Stew,
I don't have Comcast and when Adelphia becomes Time Warner, I suspect they will continue to offer the Moxi boxes and possibly the SA boxes in the L.A. area.
I'm hoping that the Blu-ray RECORDERS have firewire. I would have loved to have seen the back of that Panasonic recorder they had at CES.
Penton-Man 01-29-06, 11:37 PM Maybe you should hide this from the Mrs Penton Man.
LOL,
If she ever heard herself referred to like that (i.e. Mrs. Penton-Man) she would probably go into our bonus room and throw in the garbage all my I.S.D.T. medals, my National helmet, and all my old moto pics that I've got hanging on the wall. :eek:
thestewman 01-29-06, 11:42 PM Agreed, and it's a BIG problem IMHO. There's nowhere NEAR enough storage on these drives, and I would like to be able to plug a nice, fat, 500GB drive into the back of my box to increase it's available recording time. Have been hanging out on the 6412 thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7023374#post7023374) in hopes that someone might someday have a workaround for this...
You would think that by now after someone has hacked into almost every other piece of gear out there, someone would have been able to hack the software and figure out the hard drive file system on the 6412.
Guys are making money supplying USB and Firewire ports for electronics that originally didn't have them. Why not sell activated USB, Sata and Ethernet ports on the 6412 ?
FYI
There are actually two Motorola/Comcast 6412 forums on AVS under HDTV Recorders
New Moto 6412 with HDMI and Sata (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=558602&page=1&pp=30)
Official Comcast 6412 / iGuide Discussion (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=464986&page=1&pp=30)
thestewman 01-29-06, 11:56 PM Stew,
I don't have Comcast and when Adelphia becomes Time Warner, I suspect they will continue to offer the Moxi boxes and possibly the SA boxes in the L.A. area.
I'm hoping that the Blu-ray RECORDERS have firewire. I would have loved to have seen the back of that Panasonic recorder they had at CES.
The Motorola 6412 Phase III box has several software bugs and only a 120G HD.
It has HDMI that works flawlessly with the Q and the HD picture is excellent. The phase III box has a much improved SD picture also.
I have heard the SA 8300 has a firewire connection.
MotorMouth777 01-30-06, 12:01 AM My freakin Sony 975 won't burp up a DVD it has swallowed. It seems to think it is some kind of CD or so a little light on the front says. Won't play the DVD and it won't give it back.
WTF is up with this damn thing and is there any way to get it to end its constipation.
Where the hell is that Blu-Ray boat anyway..........................
thestewman 01-30-06, 12:04 AM Stew,
I don't have Comcast and when Adelphia becomes Time Warner, I suspect they will continue to offer the Moxi boxes and possibly the SA boxes in the L.A. area.
I'm hoping that the Blu-ray RECORDERS have firewire. I would have loved to have seen the back of that Panasonic recorder they had at CES.
A firewire connection would be excellent as the " Q " OSD for Firewire devices displays the controls on screen and allows you to operate them via the OSD.
thestewman 01-30-06, 12:08 AM My freakin Sony 975 won't burp up a DVD it has swallowed. It seems to think it is some kind of CD or so a little light on the front says. Won't play the DVD and it won't give it back.
WTF is up with this damn thing and is there any way to get it to end its constipation.
Where the hell is that Blu-Ray boat anyway..........................
Look in your owners manual. Most DVD players have a hole where you can insert an unbent paper clip and unlock the DVD drawer.
Penton-Man 01-30-06, 12:13 AM My freakin Sony 975 won't burp up a DVD it has swallowed. It seems to think it is some kind of CD or so a little light on the front says. Won't play the DVD and it won't give it back.
WTF is up with this damn thing and is there any way to get it to end its constipation.
Sorry, motor, THAT is a known liability with that DVD player.
Just ask brt.
Here's hoping that you don't have a "personal" DVD of you and the Mrs. in the machine. :eek:
Penton-Man 01-30-06, 12:16 AM A firewire connection would be excellent as the " Q " OSD for Firewire devices displays the controls on screen and allows you to operate them via the OSD.
Well until non-PC based Blu-ray recorders make their appearance to us consumers, I imagine that this will be the only thing that will give you unlimited storage/archiving ability.
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_5785.html
Now, you when one of you computer guys buys this thing, you can teach me how to hook it up.
Problem is, I guess one will have to buy a bunch of dem single layer Blu-ray Discs. :eek:
MotorMouth777 01-30-06, 12:24 AM Anyone got an extra $1,800 burning a hole in their pockets?
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/12900
Anyone got an extra $1,800 burning a hole in their pockets?
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/12900What's up with this:
Worth noting is that Pioneer’s player, although it will cost $1800, does not seem to support playing CDs.
You have GOT to be kidding me!
Penton-Man 01-30-06, 12:37 AM Anyone got an extra $1,800 burning a hole in their pockets?
http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/12900
You know, I’ve been really trying to save Penton paper and hold off buying a Blu-ray player (at this point, probably the Sony) until a bunch of titles that I like are available for rent and/or sale and there is nothing to watch on TV as all the major network series are reruns………………
BUT,
I know that once one of you yahoos goes out and buys a Blu-ray player and boasts on this thread how great such and such movie looked compared to his standard DVD player………..
ALL BETS WILL BE OFF –
And rational thinking will be replaced by impulse buying on my part. :eek:
Not sure if anyone caught it but our little butter-muffin Jessica Alba will be on Jimmey Kimmel this Friday night. :D
Good to hear that you guys don't have green blob/haze/cloud even on warmup with your Qualias.This points to being sxrd problems not lcos problem necessarily.
I was using memory stick setting for a quick test without a memory stick in the tv.This gives a gray screen as didn't have any test discs in the store and does make the green blob/haze/cloud visible on the sxrd sets.
The one qualia in the store did have this BIG J. In fact I got a couple of salesmen to point it out on the set to make sure it wasn't my eyes!!
It was subtle as it is on most of the sxrd and the qualia was on all day they salesmen said.
I have no idea of the settings on the qualia either but this was not likely setting issue as like the sxrds it was more a cloud and mostly just in the center screen area.Guy thought it could be hot spots on the bulb or something.Something I also thought it might be on the sxrd sets.
Anyway the qualia does sound lke a sweet set.
OK, with drives...even SATA, costing so little now, I don't know why these guys don't "load them up"!
See my above post.
I don't think the storage capacity has been finalized in stone but it's probably a good estimate at this point.
Penton-Man 01-30-06, 01:44 PM OK, with drives...even SATA, costing so little now, I don't know why these guys don't "load them up"!
Your "content provider" would be unhappy, as more recording, generally means more skipping thru commercials than with live TV watching.
Penton-Man 01-30-06, 01:49 PM What's up with this:
Worth noting is that Pioneer’s player, although it will cost $1800, does not seem to support playing CDs.
You have GOT to be kidding me!
Well, I guess it’s cheaper than the over 50K that someone bid ON EBAY FOR a STARTING SLOT IN 2006 TOYOTA PRO/CELEBRITY RACE plus some other random goodies that were thrown in.
www.*********/toyotagrandprix
where you see dem asterisks just type in the four letters of that well known online auction site followed by .com :)
Penton-Man 01-30-06, 01:52 PM Here are my current setting on Video 6, a Moto/Comcast 6412 over HDMI:
Picture Mode: PRO
Picture: 58
Brightness: 31
Color: 23
Hue: G3 -- I'm assuming this is an option in the Service Menu
Sharpness: 25
Color Temp: Warm
Noise Reduction: Off
Direct Mode: ON
Cinema Black Pro: ON
Color Space: Wide
Color Corrector: Off
DTE: Off
Clear White: Off
Detail Enhancer: Off
Black Corrector: Off
Gamma Corrector: Off
The only thing is ......if I recall correctly, if you turn ON the Direct Mode, I believe it negates usage of Mode 1, Mode 2 and CineMotion in the DRC Mode, which would seem to be counterproductive ?
I haven't been in my menu settings for awhile but I think when you turn ON Direct Mode it greys out the above features.
nhey
Was the WMV better than OT and what ever your other source of HD video is at present ?
What connection method are you using between the HTPC and the Q ?
Stew
Stew -
Good question. I'd have to say that the WMV-HD clips I've seen are BETTER (cleaner and even more detailed) than any HD I've seen - and I have OTA (roof-top antenna), Comcast, and Directv sources connected to the Q. The big 3 (ABC, NBC, CBS) OTA stations in my area multicast with a second and in some cases (ABC) a third substation. The one station that doesn't multicast (CBS) is very close in quality, but not exactly equal to, to the WMV-HD clips. Since I'm probably seeing 720p WMV clips, it really wets my appetite for blu-ray which will be 1080i to the Q.
...except while we watch the Seahawks win next Sunday! :D
Your "content provider" would be unhappy, as more recording, generally means more skipping thru commercials than with live TV watching.
Zechman 01-30-06, 03:26 PM I know, I know, Tivo could have hit a home run out of the park if they offered firewire but, my thinking is that with its internal storage (250 Gig ?) and the add-on external storage (I guessing about another 125 Gig) THAT is a helluva a lot more storage than I’m currently getting with my Moxi DVR from Adelphia……….now I get a WHOPPING 7 hr. of HD storage from my …………….80 gig Moxi hard disk !!!!!!!!
So, for the upcoming Olympics, I can plan on either being a shut-in and not missing anything or missing quite alot of stuff if indeed the networks offer abundant HD programming for this event.
[Dwayne dusts off his "TiVo Geek" hat . . . .]
The built-in drive on an HDTiVo is 250GB.
One of the issues with TiVo and 1394 is that TiVo is built on Linux, and not exactly the newest available--even the HDTiVo, which is one of only two models that can deal with drives larger than 137GB out of the box. I don't think 1394 support exists for that version of the Linux kernel.
Also, the TiVo's MFS filesystem that it uses for data storage is distinctly NOT friendly to the concept of removing the drive from the system, even when shut down. So IMHO I don't see TiVo supporting 1394 any time soon.
--Dwayne
Zechman 01-30-06, 03:35 PM Well until non-PC based Blu-ray recorders make their appearance to us consumers, I imagine that this will be the only thing that will give you unlimited storage/archiving ability.
http://www.letsgodigital.org/en/news/articles/story_5785.html
Now, you when one of you computer guys buys this thing, you can teach me how to hook it up.
Problem is, I guess one will have to buy a bunch of dem single layer Blu-ray Discs. :eek:
If the Pioneer PC drive could deal with dual-layer discs, I'd be planning to get one on opening day.
Depending on pricing and how angry it would make Mrs. Zechman, I may get one anyway. ;)
I've noticed that the newest version of Nero (my favorite burning software) supports Blu-Ray. :)
But it doesn't really do me any good until a Blu-Ray player that I like is available.
(I don't really care for the looks of the Sony model. I thought Sony had settled on the "silver" look?)
--Dwayne
thestewman 01-30-06, 03:50 PM Stew -
Good question. I'd have to say that the WMV-HD clips I've seen are BETTER (cleaner and even more detailed) than any HD I've seen - and I have OTA (roof-top antenna), Comcast, and Directv sources connected to the Q. The big 3 (ABC, NBC, CBS) OTA stations in my area multicast with a second and in some cases (ABC) a third substation. The one station that doesn't multicast (CBS) is very close in quality, but not exactly equal to, to the WMV-HD clips. Since I'm probably seeing 720p WMV clips, it really wets my appetite for blu-ray which will be 1080i
to the Q.
nhey
WMV is available in 2 formats. 720p or 1080p. MS states the display has to have 1920 × 1440 screen resolution for the 1080p. I am confused abot that and how you would select it on the Q. Is it determined by your WMV DVD or WMV download source ?
Changing the subject a bit.
How does your Direct tv HD compare to your Comcast HD and are you using the Motorola 6412 PIII ?
What is your connection type between the HTPC and your Q ?
BenDover 01-30-06, 05:19 PM ...except while we watch the Seahawks win next Sunday! :D
They *might* win ....
the coin toss, I'll give you that remote possibility :D
nhey
WMV is available in 2 formats. 720p or 1080p. MS states the display has to have 1920 × 1440 screen resolution for the 1080p. I am confused abot that and how you would select it on the Q. Is it determined by your WMV DVD or WMV download source ?
Changing the subject a bit.
How does your Direct tv HD compare to your Comcast HD and are you using the Motorola 6412 PIII ?
What is your connection type between the HTPC and your Q ?
The WMV clips came with my HTPC stored on my hard drive. Since the Q does not accept a 1080p signal over HDMI (we're not 100% certain about iLink), and since I would expect that the company who built my HTPC would obviously want these clips to be playable by almost everyone with an HD set, that the WMVHD content being sent to my Q over a DVI to HDMI connection (input 7 on the Q) must be 720p. The Q then scales it up to 1080p. Nevertheless, the clips are really gorgeous.
My Comcast HD over HDMI to the Q is infinitely better to my eye than Directv. As you know, Directv down rez's most of their HD stuff to 1280 x 1080. Comcast's HD picture over the 6412 phase III, was great, and is just as good with the current box I'm using, which is the Motorola 34xx (I forget the last 2 numbers), which, supposedly is their most current box. Over-the-air is just a touch better I think, but hardly noticeable. I'm in area that should have FIOS TV in a few months, I hope, and I'll then drop Directv.
Now, the coin toss they have little control over! :D
They *might* win ....
the coin toss, I'll give you that remote possibility :D
Penton-Man 01-30-06, 08:10 PM If the Pioneer PC drive could deal with dual-layer discs
Well, apparently, THIS can.............
http://www.i4u.com/article4992.html
and more details................
http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=de%7Cen&u=http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/68839&prev=/language_tools
and I see your "Nero" in all that German speak. :)
Penton-Man 01-30-06, 08:23 PM in English ...........
Blu ray burner for the first time in the test
If Samsung had still completely overslept the start of the DVD burners, the Koreans want to completely in front be at the next generation of the optical storage media also thereby and strike the Japanese competition of Sony & CO a Schnippchen. The drive assembly is already finished, one waits only for the new copy protection AACS , it was said. In order to support the statement, received the computer magazine c't an engineering SAM-polarize the BD burner Sh-b022 for one day to the test.
Pretty Pic :)
The Sh-b022 presents itself with schicker black front screen. The ejection button flashes in the case of burning blue.
The drive assembly can already describe Blu ray Discs. CDs and DVDs read it only. The sales version is to be able to burn it however also. Samsung supplied a special version of Nero with the version number 7.0.4. With this it succeeded to us to describe a again-recordable einlagige Bd-re25 with nominal 25 GByte storage location completely. If one counts on 1024 byte per kilobyte, then 22.23 GByte fit on a Disc. Two-part versions, which are so far not yet available, are to swallow the double.
The combustion with 2X (corresponds to a transfer rate of 8990 KByte/s) lasted 43:40 minutes. The drive assembly described but announced a once recordable blank (Bd-r) from the fundus of the editorship meanwhile not, that the mark was not supported by the write strategies in the firmware.
Our bench mark program h2benchw could address the drive assembly without problems and determined quite good transfer rates. A Bd-RH is picked out with on the average 8.6 MByte/s, a Dvd-9 with 6,0 MByte/s, an Dvd r with 11,6 MByte/s and an CD-r with 4,4 MByte/s. The middle access times moved between 259 ms with the Bd-RH and 114 ms with an CD-r. The error correction during the reading worked with a badly burned test DVD r very well and with one scratches test CD Rome well. Badly pressed Dvd Rome did not recognize the Sh-b022 however. With a scratched audio CD we heard starting from 1.2 mm scratch width of interferences, copy-protected music CDs however with an exception everything were already played.
At the back of the drive assembly Samsung inserted inside a small exhaust. The housing had however no ventilation openings and in such a way whirls the small Quirl air in the housing only in disorder, as soon as one inserts a Disc. The noises remain however nevertheless in pleasant ranges. With a BD it reaches 1.6 Sone, when playing a video DVD 1.9 Sone and with the selection CD Rome still very good 3.9 Sone.
With an earlier test of a Sony drive assembly for Professional Disc for DATA (the professional variant Blu ray of the Disc) the high temperature than very problematic emerged. The Samsung burner remains however cool. Directly after burning we measured uncritical 42 °C on the Discoberflaeche.
A view in the housing inside revealed the new technology. Thus Samsung on CONTROLLER chips of Sony trusts and into its Pickup Head two lenses built, one for CDs and DVDs and a larger for Blu ray the Discs. Rubber buffers intercept vibrations.
Pretty Pic :D
The read-write head bring along two lenses, the upper small for CDs and DVDs, the lower large for Blu ray Discs.
Result
Samsung goes as the first through the goal and presents the first functioning Blu ray burner outside from fairs and reglementierten conference rooms. The fact that we were allowed to move the test equipment without restrictions with our measuring tools, still in the development, to body witnesses of self-confident its the Korean. The Sh-b022 works already now better than so some Retail drive assembly. Sometimes we had to insert a Disc twice, before them were recognized, serious problems gave it however none.
The developers have still until April time to insert the missing functions. The finished drive assembly is to describe and to read be able then also two-part BDs with 50 GByte. To do also the software developers do not have some, except the special version of Nero wanted other program, which is alleged "Blu ray ready", with the drive assembly to co-operate. Only with the final sales devices one will see, how the new features of the Blu ray films in action look and whether the AACS was implemented error free.
Samsung already gives a Vorgeschmack, which hardware is needed for the Blu ray drive assembly with IDE connection, first: Thus one needs a 3-GHz-CPU and a diagram map with at least 128 MByte memory for the expenditure by hp films, to be recommended a Geforce 7800 or ATI Radeon X1800. so far gives it however no models, which exhibit the necessary copy-protected interfaces HDMI or DVI with HDCP. Without these one will be able to show the films if necessary in dissolutions of standard, but not in hp one will see in such a way the first drive assemblies, if they come according to Samsung starting from April on the market, probable in complete PCS with according to equipped OEM Grafikkarten. Samsung did not call a price for Europe so far, in the USA is the Sh-b022b 500 US dollar to cost.
You read the complete test in the computer magazine c't, expenditure 4/06, those starting from Monday, which is available 6 February.
Penton-Man 01-30-06, 08:28 PM brt..........What's a "Discoberflaeche" ?
Perhaps an E3 girl that attends the local disco after the E3 convention ?
http://www.e3girls.com/display.cfm?startrow=1&pagenum=1&type=full&query=full
Penton-Man 01-30-06, 08:30 PM Looks like I won't be attending this year, even though it's in L.A. :(
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=29238
When you read the article, pay close attention to whom the "Show organiser" is. :D
Penton-Man 01-30-06, 08:45 PM O.T.-
I hope nobody ever strikes me a "Schnippchen" :eek:
I do NOT like the sound of that!
I hope nobody ever strikes me a "Schnippchen" :eek:I think it means "snippet". I believe they're trying to say:
Though Samsung seems to have missed the first wave of DVD burners the Koreans are anxious to be at the forefront of the next generation of optical storage, thereby beating their Japanese competition at Sony by a hair.
brt..........What's a "Discoberflaeche" ?They're referring to the disc-player's top-cover, I think...
divedude 01-30-06, 09:31 PM Looks like ya'll may hit 10,000 by the end of the day :)
O.T.-
I hope nobody ever strikes me a "Schnippchen" :eek:
I do NOT like the sound of that!
What, too "Lorena Bobbit" for you?
:D :eek:
thesirjay 01-30-06, 10:37 PM My how the time has flown.... Almost 10k posts and I have read every one of them. Not to mention all the posts on the "Dreaming of Qualia" thread that proceeded this one. Please hurry.... Hearing the germans are getting the earlier blueray dvd players makes me a tad jealous.... Not to mention they are also getting the first sanctioned p2p 1st run movies network. Have we fallen behind horribly?? Should us Qualians all start to speak German just to keep up with the latest and greatest? Ok Japanese is also an option of course... :)
thestewman 01-31-06, 12:57 AM The WMV clips came with my HTPC stored on my hard drive. Since the Q does not accept a 1080p signal over HDMI (we're not 100% certain about iLink), and since I would expect that the company who built my HTPC would obviously want these clips to be playable by almost everyone with an HD set, that the WMVHD content being sent to my Q over a DVI to HDMI connection (input 7 on the Q) must be 720p. The Q then scales it up to 1080p. Nevertheless, the clips are really gorgeous.
My Comcast HD over HDMI to the Q is infinitely better to my eye than Directv. As you know, Directv down rez's most of their HD stuff to 1280 x 1080. Comcast's HD picture over the 6412 phase III, was great, and is just as good with the current box I'm using, which is the Motorola 34xx (I forget the last 2 numbers), which, supposedly is their most current box. Over-the-air is just a touch better I think, but hardly noticeable. I'm in area that should have FIOS TV in a few months, I hope, and I'll then drop Directv.
I'm sure jealous. Comcast is light years (pun intented) behind in getting fibre optics to market. I gather you will drop Comcast also, as Verizon has all the channels and more HD channels than Comcast.
I'm sure jealous. Comcast is light years (pun intented) behind in getting fibre optics to market. I gather you will drop Comcast also, as Verizon has all the channels and more HD channels than Comcast.
Probably yes, I will also drop Comcast.
manfredc 01-31-06, 11:37 AM Discoberflaeche = Disc Surface
Discoberflaeche = Disc SurfaceThat's kinda what I thought, but when they started talking temps I thought they might be describing the cover of the housing instead of the disc. Out of practice, I guess...
If one searches for "Qualia" on eBay there are two Q004s listed, along with one Q006. The latter is in Chicago, if anyone's looking. There's also a Q006 stand listed in Nevada...
Probably yes, I will also drop Comcast.
I can get FIOS now, but am waiting for FIOS TV. I am told that will be this year! However, I am now on Comcast.
Zechman 01-31-06, 06:35 PM Well, apparently, THIS can.............
http://www.i4u.com/article4992.html
and more details................
http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&langpair=de%7Cen&u=http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/68839&prev=/language_tools
and I see your "Nero" in all that German speak. :)
Allrighty then! Sign me up for one new Samsung BD drive on opening day! :cool:
Now what about the stand-alone players? Anything out there that compares favorably with the good Pioneer or Denon DVD players? (And in a silver case?)
--Dwayne
Zechman 01-31-06, 06:37 PM Ausgezeichnet!
Gesundheit!
--Dwayne
divedude 01-31-06, 09:03 PM Mini Dive was so worried that we couldn't haul dive tanks or bring home more electronic toys, that I got him a present today. Now he has his own mini-truck :D
divedude 01-31-06, 09:08 PM So is jb007 going to roll the odometer over on this thread ? And will it be in German ;)
Zechman 01-31-06, 09:09 PM Mini Dive was so worried that we couldn't haul dive tanks or bring home more electronic toys, that I got him a present today. Now he has his own mini-truck :D
My wife calls that color "pull-me-over" red. (Her car is that color, too.) :D
--Dwayne
Zechman & Penton --
You guys may want to hold off on those Samsung purchases...
Philips Press Release (http://www.press.ce.philips.com/apps/c_dir/e3379701.nsf/0/2269FED30229F84DC12570EC003BBB33?opendocument)
Philips Blu-ray TripleWriter SPD7000 Comes 2nd Half of 2006
Philips announced the Blu-ray Disc, DVD and CD writer for PCs at the CES 2006. The Samsung SH-B022 Blu-ray writer is only able to write Blu-ray discs. The Philips SPD7000 is able to write Blu-ray, DVD and CD discs, thus the name TripleWriter. The Pioneer Blu-ray writer BDR-101A we reported about in December is also supporting DVD writing. For the near future DVDs and CDs will not go away. To have one drive to burn all three kinds is definitely a good thing. Philips has not set a price yet, but said they will ship the SPD7000 in the 2nd half of 2006.
My wife calls that color "pull-me-over" red. (Her car is that color, too.) :DYeah, I always referred to it as "arrest-me red"...
divedude 01-31-06, 09:24 PM My wife calls that color "pull-me-over" red. (Her car is that color, too.) :D
--Dwayne
Zechman,
I try not to go too fast, but Mini Dive has a lead fin, so we have a good radar / laser detector :D
I try not to go too fast, but Mini Dive has a lead fin, so we have a good radar / laser detector :DI hope Mini Dive also has a good BC -- lead fin + SCUBA = negative buoyancy. Not good, unless he's a bottom-feeder...
:D
To quote Home Simpson, "Mmmmmmmm... 50GB!". Then again, maybe I'll just wait until we cross the 100GB threshold before making another optical disc format purchase... ;)
Philips introduced its all-in-one PC Writer (TripleWriter™), consumer Blu-ray Disc Video player (BDP9000) and new Blu-ray media (BD-R and B-RE, single layer 25 GB* and dual layer BD-R and BD-RE 50 GB*).
JB -- better get your keyboard warmed up! And, not to put too much pressure on you or anything, but I would assume that post #10,000 will be incredibly pithy, full of wit and charm, yet -- at the same time -- touchingly poignant...
JB -- better get your keyboard warmed up! And, not to put too much pressure on you or anything, but I would assume that post #10,000 will be incredibly pithy, full of wit and charm, yet -- at the same time -- touchingly poignant...
JB-007 - here's the pre final 10 countdown -
4....
1....
PLEASE NO ONE ELSE POST UNTIL JB007 counts us down to 10,000!!!!!!!!!!
ok, it happened to me. My Q is defective. about a 6 weeks ago i noticed thin vertical green lines along the entire width of the screen. they are spaced 1" apart.(the picture can still be seen though).i called sony. they got me in contact with a repair facility. long story short, a tech came and looked at the problem. sony later told him what the problem likely could be. something called a "Q box". it's about an 800.00 part. the tech just came here to replace it (along with a new bulb). after replacing the part, we fired up the tv. same problem. oh no, the disappointment. now he says it's what he suspected from the get go. the light engine. now i must wait another 3 weeks or so before the part comes in and gets installed. this is what i call getting a free lamp the hard way!
Zechman 02-01-06, 05:28 PM Either someone deleted some posts, or nhey can't count . . . . :p
Let's try again.
8 . . . .
--Dwayne
(And personally, I think Penton-Man should take #10K, but whatever.)
Just returned from a trip to the Bahamas. It was real nice, but no Q006 viewing and no Ms. Alba :mad:
While I am extremely appreciative of nhey's gesture to allow me the privilege of Post #10,000, I agree with Dwayne -- let's give the honor to Penton-Man. He deserves it (or maybe I'm just too lazy after my trip to write something, "incredibly pithy, full of wit and charm, yet -- at the same time -- touchingly poignant..." as suggested by brt3 :p )
So, here we go . . .
6. . .
:D :D :D
ONE. . .
:D :D :D
Penton-Man 02-01-06, 06:39 PM 10,000 :eek: what can be said ?
It’s been an honor and truly a pleasure for me to share in the Qualia 006 experience with you guys/and gals. :)
As I said before on another milestone, I think we all got very lucky with this purchase and we are in agreement that any premium price we might have paid was well worth the HOURS of enjoyment we’ve experienced …………..while others have waited, and Waited and WAITED for the best 70” RPTV – we’ve been in video nirvana for quite awhile.
The finest thing about this thread that our author jb007 initiated ?
It has evolved into a focal point for the aggregation of a group of friends and continues to be so as we accentuate our 006 with more video goodies and audio goodies and even other non-Q goodies that we may purchase under the helpful guidance of our fellow posters whose only agenda is to help out other Qualians.
This truly has become an efficient one-stop shopping thread for Q and non-Q items alike for all of us………… and I hope that it continues to be so. :)
Bravo !!!!!!! Fellow Qualians ! :D
10,000 :eek: what can be said ?
It’s been an honor and truly a pleasure for me to share in the Qualia 006 experience with you guys/and gals. :)
As I said before on another milestone, I think we all got very lucky with this purchase and we are in agreement that any premium price we might have paid was well worth the HOURS of enjoyment we’ve experienced …………..while others have waited, and Waited and WAITED for the best 70” RPTV – we’ve been in video nirvana for quite awhile.
The finest thing about this thread that our author jb007 initiated ?
It has evolved into a focal point for the aggregation of a group of friends and continues to be so as we accentuate our 006 with more video goodies and audio goodies and even other non-Q goodies that we may purchase under the helpful guidance of our fellow posters whose only agenda is to help out other Qualians.
This truly has become an efficient one-stop shopping thread for Q and non-Q items alike for all of us………… and I hope that it continues to be so. :)
Bravo !!!!!!! Fellow Qualians ! :D
Well said!!! Thanks to JB007 for offering post #10,000 to PM... well deserved...
Well, 10000 is only 16 decimal, or 10 Hex! Almost any thread has that many posts!
Anyway, this has been a great forum with very little in the way of OT Police!
Thank you all again,
Dave
10,000 :eek: what can be said ?
It’s been an honor and truly a pleasure for me to share in the Qualia 006 experience with you guys/and gals. :)
As I said before on another milestone, I think we all got very lucky with this purchase and we are in agreement that any premium price we might have paid was well worth the HOURS of enjoyment we’ve experienced …………..while others have waited, and Waited and WAITED for the best 70” RPTV – we’ve been in video nirvana for quite awhile.
The finest thing about this thread that our author jb007 initiated ?
It has evolved into a focal point for the aggregation of a group of friends and continues to be so as we accentuate our 006 with more video goodies and audio goodies and even other non-Q goodies that we may purchase under the helpful guidance of our fellow posters whose only agenda is to help out other Qualians.
This truly has become an efficient one-stop shopping thread for Q and non-Q items alike for all of us………… and I hope that it continues to be so. :)
Bravo !!!!!!! Fellow Qualians ! :D
divedude 02-01-06, 07:44 PM Mini Dive spared no expense to create this photo to honor the occasion . . .
Seriously, congratulations to all and here's to many more great and fun posts, and many years of excellent viewing :D
MiniDive,
I have some new scuba gear for you:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4665624.stm
:) :)
divedude 02-01-06, 08:25 PM MiniDive,
I have some new scuba gear for you:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4665624.stm
:) :)
slocko,
Mini Dive thinks that is very cool. The 200 liters of water being pushed through the device every minute would also make for good propulsion. :cool:
When I saw "artificial gills", my first thought was Jessica Alba :D :D
divedude 02-01-06, 08:31 PM I hope Mini Dive also has a good BC -- lead fin + SCUBA = negative buoyancy. Not good, unless he's a bottom-feeder...
:D
brt3,
When I think of a BC (buoyancy compensator), I think of Jessica Alba. :D :D
Since P-M got post #10,000, I figured I'd take post # 10,007 :D
brt3 -- When I think of a BC (buoyancy compensator), I think of Jessica Alba. :D :D
She is -- without a doubt -- quite buoyant, and Mini Dive would certainly enjoy a nice midnight dive with her. I think I have a pretty good idea what his favorite stroke might be (and it's NOT freestyle!)...
:D
Wonder how many posts (out of 10K+) make mention of J.A., T&A, or other various and sundry directional requests???
divedude 02-01-06, 09:14 PM Wonder how many posts (out of 10K+) make mention of J.A., T&A, or other various and sundry directional requests???
brt3,
Getting directions from J.A. would be the ultimate :cool:
And that makes one more ;)
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