Regarding the memory stick feature of the 006:

I assume that if you have a digital camera that does not use memory stick storage media, you can still transfer jpegs from your digital cameras media using an all purpose reader like the Dazzle 10 in 1 media writer/reader, which is only around $40. Of course, you'd also have to buy a memory stick or memory stick pro card.

It has also been suggested to downrez high-resolution images to 1920 x 1080 in software.

nhey; I am very big into digital photography as a hobby ($40K makes the Qualia seem cheap). To get screen shots, up you ISO setting to 400 ISO or higher. This will speed up your shutter. Any shutter speed bellow 60 will have motion blur unless you use a tripod. Even a tripod won't work well because you subject (motion on TV) will be blurry. Jb007, your shots look good but are a little soft (normal for digital without sharpeing). Have you tried to sharpen the pictures?

nhey

I've got a 8080 also and have taken some fairly good screenshots.

You need to do the following.

1. A tripod is a must. Don't bother trying to do it otherwise.

2. Change white balance to the symbol that looks like the shadow next to the house. That's closer to 6500 K than the other settings.

3. You really need to use content that is either very still or something that you can freeze, like a DVD. If the 006 has a freeze button on the remote, use it.

4.ISO, change to 50. Sorry, but ISO 400 on the C8080 induces some noise.

5. Exposure wise, use what the camera comes up with as a beginning point and then use the plus and minus exposure setting to raise or lower it. I usually have to minus exposure as the auto metering system tends to overexpose.

6. If I'm photographing for the web, I use the lowest jpeg setting. This is better than recording at the highest and rescaling down to the lowest.

Give this a try and if you have any questions, let me know.

Attached is a screen shot off of my Panasonic AE700 onto a 119" screen using what would be consider very difficult material(low key sceen).

Jimp,, Since you have the camera, your better to comment. The camera I have has minimal noise at 800ISO.

SRT-10 Viper

Which camera and lens are you using??

In theory, the higher the ISO you can use, the better. Unfortunately with digital higher ISOs typically mean noise is the darker areas of the picture(not unlike high speed film prior to 1995). Yours might be an exception. If you're really interested, do some comparison shots using ISO 800 and something fairly low like 50. In either case, you would still want to freeze the picture and use a tripod. You'd be surprised that when you freeze a picture on the screen, how many times you find out just how much motion blur is in the original material. You can find a frame that's void of any motion blur and photograph it. As to using higher shutter speeds and hand holding, the convenience of using a tripod and eliminating the element of camera movement is worth it. If you don't have a tripod, prop the camera on top of something rigid like a streight back chair.

As an aside, the C8080's top ISO is 400, but the lens is 2.6.(that's correct, its not 2.8) This works out a little better than a 5.6 lens on a camera capable of ISO 1600. Other than the shutter delay, this is a very nice camera capable of very good resolution at a fairly low price.

JimP;

I have a Canon 1D MII (8M, 8 FPS, ISO 50 - 3200) and a Canon 1Ds (11M, 3 FPS, ISO 100 - 1600). Lenses I use are 24-80 2.8L and 16 -35 2.8L... I agree if I want the best (less noise) color, I shoot actuall 100 ISO as 50 ISO on my camera doesn't have as much dynaic range. I shoot sports with a 300 2.8L (night football) that requires high ISO. With the Canon 1D MII, I can shoot 1000 ISO and print 8/10 or 13x19 and would amaze you with the lack of noise. There are also excellent programs out there that will remove noise and keep the detail (Noise Ninja is a great one).

I'll take a Qualia picture latter and post it a 800 ISO.

Anyone have their 006 professionally calibrated yet?

Originally posted by aaronwt
Anyone have their 006 professionally calibrated yet?
At this time, I believe that nobody has done so (at least posted as such on this thread), which is partly due to the fact that many believe that the stock settings (with a few minor tweaks) are just superb and cannot be improved upon.

However, we all search for the perfect picture (esp. Qualia owners) and I believe nhey has a calibration appt. for around Feb.23.

Originally posted by Penton-Man
At this time, I believe that nobody has done so (at least posted as such on this thread), which is partly due to the fact that many believe that the stock settings (with a few minor tweaks) are just superb and cannot be improved upon.

However, we all search for the perfect picture (esp. Qualia owners) and I believe nhey has a calibration appt. for around Feb.23.


Correct - have it scheduled for 2/23. To be done by Eliab (avical.com) who does "national tours".


Hey guys - thanks for all the photography tips!!

Jim - you suggested taking the picture at the lowest jpeg setting. Do you mean set it to take a 640 x 480 shot so no software manipulation would be needed before posting? I usually take shots at the HQ resolution of 3264 x 2448. I'm am amateur (at best) so pardon my ignorance.
I will freeze the shot on the 006 using my DVR (Comcast 6412).

Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
Jb007, your shots look good but are a little soft (normal for digital without sharpeing). Have you tried to sharpen the pictures?

All photos I have posted were taken without a tripod and no post-processing. There's probably some things I could do such as sharpening, saturation, contrast, etc. to make the photos better, or even closer to what the Qualia 006 displays, but I chose to just post them straight out of the camera.

jb007,

Thanks for all the great photos! That should quell the critics for awhile. I guess there are always a few people out there willing to rain on our parade or just plain jealous

sj

You gotta check out this tread by Rich H. Very good and unbiased comparison of the Qualia and the Panny 65 incher.




http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=508889

Originally posted by MotorMouth777
You gotta check out this tread by Rich H. Very good and unbiased comparison of the Qualia and the Panny 65 incher.




http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=508889

Motormouth,

Just think, THAT will be in your livingroom hopefully soon.

sj

Where the hell is that boat?

These pictures are not good examples. There is no looking thru a window feeling like a good HDTV would give you. Maybe a computer monitor can't display it. Even my computer monitor with a 1920x1080 image displayed does not give the 3d window effect of my Mits. I also think that static images are not as realistic looking as moving ones. Everyone interested will need to see one of these in person.

Originally posted by Dilbert1

...I am interested in comments from people that own this set or are ready

to buy and have questions. Dilbert1

Originally posted by Penton-Man

...as a Qualia owner posting on the Qualia 006 Owner's Thread which was conceived by jb007 to provide help and guidance to all current and prospective Qualia 006 owners.

Originally posted by kaduku

...as a Qualia owner posting on the Qualia 006 Owner's Thread which was conceived by jb007 to provide help and guidance to all current and prospective Qualia 006 owners.

I was a prospective buyer but have come to the conclusion that this set...like all RPTVs...suffers from PQ degradation in sunlit rooms...even if the sunlight is filtered through thin window coverings. I reached this conclusion without ever seeing the display. I reached the conclusion with the indirect help of this forum.

I made it clear in all my posts that I was a serious potential Q006 buyer. Given the above posts I quoted...regarding the willingness to provide help and guidance to all potential buyers...I can only draw one logical conclusion from the lack of response to the question I asked yesterday.

Beware if you are a potential buyer of the Q006 and you have the set in a brightly sunlit room. The owners won't tell you this directly...for reasons that should be obvious to anyone who has followed this thread...but this is clearly what they believe.

I started this quest for "help and guidance" with five potential deficiencies (issues) that the Q006 could exhibit, based on deficiencies I had observed in other RP displays. Mostly though reading other forums I decided that I could live with any potential deficiencies in the Q006 since Sony has apparently greatly reduced many of my concerns regarding RP technology.

I reduced the five potential issues to one. Just one issue that stood between me and the Q006.

From yesterday (edited for brevity):

Originally posted by DOBE

If you guys can address this one last issue I have you may have a new member...I sure want this set and I'm now convinced that the 006 is an extraordinary RPTV. However, is it the display for my environment.? I really haven't seen the issue of bright sun light (filtered through thin blinds) and its affect on the PQ of the 006 addressed adequately for me to make a decision on whether the 006 will work in my family room environment.

Storm blinds would cost a fortune and are not practical in my situation. Plus, I enjoy watching sports and other programs during the day...with the filtered natural sun light.

This time of the year the sun still sets early. Obviously it's starting to stay light later and later. Do any Qualia owners have the set in rooms that receive the kind of all day filtered sun light I'm talking about? If not you must have some times in the day where the room is sunlit. How much is the PQ degraded?

This is a question I won't even be able to answer when I see the set in a store. I'm sure the 006 will be displayed in well controlled lighting conditions. I still can't believe The Good Guys put the 70" XBR near the front window. They've now moved it to the back of the store...away from the windows.

Bottom line: I've heard enough descriptions regarding the PQ of this set to want to own it. The only thing stopping me are the lighting conditions in my house. Do you guys think this would be a significant problem? Thanks

So that was it. One last issue with several easy to answer questions asked in my last post. I received Zero direct responses. (I will note that rbt3 did have the courage to buck the trend of this thread and was honest enough to tell me...in answer to a previous post...that potential owners might have problems with this set in the environment I described.)

The rest of you came in loud and clear...or, put another way, your silence speaks volumes. The PQ of this set obviously suffers in filtered sunlit rooms but no one wants to incur the wrath of the other owners by saying it. You shout to the mountain tops about the quality of the picture but no one has the intestinal fortitude..except brt3...to say that some potential owners will likely be disappointed if they frequently watch this set in a sunlit room.

Also, saying that "006 owners prefer ambient light" doesn't address the issue. Ambient light is the lighting that exists at the moment. It doesn't answer the question of how the Q006 handles bright directional sun light.

Not all displays are ideal for every viewing situation. It's okay for you guys to admit that the Q006 is not ideal for every viewing environment. Each person must make the decision concerning what display to purchase based on their own viewing situation. The conclusion I've drawn based on the silence to my last post...and brt3's answer to my previous post...is that filtered sun light, especially if it comes from behind the viewer or to the sides of the display will...as with other RP displays, but to a lesser extent...wash out or at a minimum significantly degrade the PQ.

I guess ignoring this issue is better than lying about it.

I thought JB addressed your question?

Not to my knowledge.

Originally posted by DOBE
I was a prospective buyer but have come to the conclusion that this set...like all RPTVs...suffers from PQ degradation in sunlit rooms...even if the sunlight is filtered through thin window coverings.

DOBE,

I'm a bit puzzled by your response. I made a genuine effort to help show you the Qualia in the worst of conditions. My viewing room has windows on three sides. One wall is nearly all glass, the other two walls have two large windows each. One wall faces south, which means that the screenshots I posted were taken with very direct sidelighting. Even though it was filtered through translucent shades (you can almost see through them) the viewing conditions were HARSH.

Please tell me what kind of TV display actually works well in these conditions. Plasma won't do it when the display is set to optimize PQ. I'll bet anyone here lunch at my favorite restaurant in St. Helena that at this price point there's not another set that could match the Qualia's PQ, even in these conditions. I think the "emmissive vs. reflected light" argument is specious, in that both display types have light that is coming out of a glass viewing surface. Room light that shines onto this viewing surface will interfere with PQ regardless of the technology of the display. Previous generations of RPTV technology have suffered in these conditions because they don't have enough light output (when set properly) to deal with this.

To characterize this thread as you have is way out of line, IMHO.

Originally posted by nhey
Correct - have it scheduled for 2/23. To be done by Eliab (avical.com) who does "national tours".


Hey guys - thanks for all the photography tips!!

Jim - you suggested taking the picture at the lowest jpeg setting. Do you mean set it to take a 640 x 480 shot so no software manipulation would be needed before posting? I usually take shots at the HQ resolution of 3264 x 2448. I'm am amateur (at best) so pardon my ignorance.
I will freeze the shot on the 006 using my DVR (Comcast 6412).


For publishing to the web, I shoot screen captures at 640 X 480 to avoid image degradation from resaving files. The C8080 with the default sharpness, tint, and color saturation levels is a fairly good representation of the subject. Basically, just shoot and post. After all, we're trying to show accurately what a display looks like, not how well we can use photoshop.

SRT-10 Viper
Very nice equipment list, especially the 1D. Are you shooting sports or nature??

nhey,

Don't freeze the image on your 6412; I've tried that and it seems to soften the image and reduce the resolution...

Originally posted by brt3
DOBE, I'm a bit puzzled by your response. I made a genuine effort to help show you the Qualia in the worst of conditions. My viewing room has windows on three sides. One wall is nearly all glass, the other two walls have two large windows each. One wall faces south, which means that the screenshots I posted were taken with very direct sidelighting. Even though it was filtered through translucent shades (you can almost see through them) the viewing conditions were HARSH.

Please tell me what kind of TV display actually works well in these conditions. Plasma won't do it when the display is set to optimize PQ. I'll bet anyone here lunch at my favorite restaurant in St. Helena that at this price point there's not another set that could match the Qualia's PQ, even in these conditions. I think the "emmissive vs. reflected light" argument is specious, in that both display types have light that is coming out of a glass viewing surface. Room light that shines onto this viewing surface will interfere with PQ regardless of the technology of the display. Previous generations of RPTV technology have suffered in these conditions because they don't have enough light output (when set properly) to deal with this.

To characterize this thread as you have is way out of line, IMHO.

brt3, My comments were not directed at you. In fact I specifically thanked you for your response. I also noted you were the only one that told me I might have some problems given my lighting conditions. Here was you response:

Originally posted by brt3
WASHED-OUT PICTURE is the only area where you might have a problem, though it will be far less severe with the Q006 than with any other RPTV. If I were spending this kind of money (wait... I just did!) I might try and invest in some window coverings, or the new style of external "storm blinds" that are totally hidden until needed. Would either of these be an option?

As I have said, the storm blinds are not an option. All I ever wanted was feed back from the 006 owners as to how the set would handle a very bright sunlit room. The only response I got...on that issue...was from you.

The only conclusion I could draw...from your coments and the lack of comments from others...was that there would be PQ washout. I watch a lot of football, baseball and basketball games during the day and while there is a reflection issue with my 50" Fujitsu, there is no wash-out that is noticeable to me. There is PQ wash-out in all other RP displays I have viewed in bright light. If the Q006 had improved this problem significantly I expected this to be trumpeted by the current owners. Instead I only got your response that "WASHED-OUT PICTURE is the only area where you might have a problem."

Your response plus the silence from the other owners led to the conclusion in my last post.

I disagree with your statement that the "emmissive vs. reflected light" argument is specious. I think Rich is spot-on with his description of this inherent difference between the two technologys (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&postid=5142636&highlight=emissive#post5142636). However, I was willing to adapt to this difference given that the Q006 has closed the gap and has so many other attributes.

The last issue for me was washout ( I'm not talking light reflections) and as I've already said...the silence to my post from yesterday....spoke volumes to me. However, your comments in the above post about your viewing conditions are interesting. The problem is the cost of this set with the stand and tax is very high. If I could return the set if I decided it suffered what I consider to be unacceptable washout, I would give it a try. As the situation exists I can't take the chance and that's too bad.

Its the weekend. Posting activity usually drops off during the weekend and shouldn't be taken as deliberate silence.

Also, maybe the other 006 owners (and there aren't that many of them) don't have their sets in a room like you're talking about, so they aren't in a position to give you feedback on it. Or maybe it was felt that brt3's reply was sufficient.

Originally posted by DOBE
I was a prospective buyer but have come to the conclusion that this set...like all RPTVs...suffers from PQ degradation in sunlit rooms...even if the sunlight is filtered through thin window coverings. I reached this conclusion without ever seeing the display. I reached the conclusion with the indirect help of this forum.

I made it clear in all my posts that I was a serious potential Q006 buyer. Given the above posts I quoted...regarding the willingness to provide help and guidance to all potential buyers...I can only draw one logical conclusion from the lack of response to the question I asked yesterday.

Beware if you are a potential buyer of the Q006 and you have the set in a brightly sunlit room. The owners won't tell you this directly...for reasons that should be obvious to anyone who has followed this thread...but this is clearly what they believe.

I started this quest for "help and guidance" with five potential deficiencies (issues) that the Q006 could exhibit, based on deficiencies I had observed in other RP displays. Mostly though reading other forums I decided that I could live with any potential deficiencies in the Q006 since Sony has apparently greatly reduced many of my concerns regarding RP technology.

I reduced the five potential issues to one. Just one issue that stood between me and the Q006.

From yesterday (edited for brevity):



So that was it. One last issue with several easy to answer questions asked in my last post. I received Zero direct responses. (I will note that rbt3 did have the courage to buck the trend of this thread and was honest enough to tell me...in answer to a previous post...that potential owners might have problems with this set in the environment I described.)

The rest of you came in loud and clear...or, put another way, your silence speaks volumes. The PQ of this set obviously suffers in filtered sunlit rooms but no one wants to incur the wrath of the other owners by saying it. You shout to the mountain tops about the quality of the picture but no one has the intestinal fortitude..except brt3...to say that some potential owners will likely be disappointed if they frequently watch this set in a sunlit room.

Also, saying that "006 owners prefer ambient light" doesn't address the issue. Ambient light is the lighting that exists at the moment. It doesn't answer the question of how the Q006 handles bright directional sun light.

Not all displays are ideal for every viewing situation. It's okay for you guys to admit that the Q006 is not ideal for every viewing environment. Each person must make the decision concerning what display to purchase based on their own viewing situation. The conclusion I've drawn based on the silence to my last post...and brt3's answer to my previous post...is that filtered sun light, especially if it comes from behind the viewer or to the sides of the display will...as with other RP displays, but to a lesser extent...wash out or at a minimum significantly degrade the PQ.

I guess ignoring this issue is better than lying about it.

DOBE:

You are so misguided that I question even responding to your assertions. However, giving you the benefit of the doubt, I will make the following observations . . .

First off, none of the owners posting on this thread are employees of Sony, that I am aware of. Your tone implies that we are salespeople, standing to earn some form of commission, if we answer your question(s) in a manner you deem timely.

You quote my response about owner's preferring ambient light, and that not addressing your query. Keep it in context. There was a long discussion preceding your post about watching the 006 in total darkness as compared to utilizing a bias light.

Perhaps in your arrogance it didn't occur to you that the "silence" you witnessed was not because 006 owners have conspired to keep some purported weakness in the 006 hush-hush, but because our viewing environment differs from yours!!! In other words, I did not feel competent to answer your question as posed because I don't have the same set-up, so I don't have first-hand knowledge or a basis to offer an opinion.

Next, you quote tongue-in-cheek responses from owners that were understandably upset when a non-owner with no intention of purchasing a 006 came into the thread and started stirring the pot by claiming he's seen better RPTVs, for much cheaper, etc. Looking at those posts, the only thing he got right was that there will be better TV's and for cheaper -- in the future. No one here takes issue with that statement. All the owners here spent a large chunk of change and are happy enjoying their 006s right now today. The Grammys tonight should be a wonderful experience for all HDTV owners. Although for some, like 006 owners, it will be better than for others :D

You are no longer a prospective 006 buyer, so I assume you probably will no longer frequent this thread. That's fine. You made a decision not to purchase, without seeing the 006 yourself, based upon (lack of?) feedback here. Others have made the choice to purchase, sight unseen, based upon the feedback here. I truly hope you find what you are looking for. Please don't take it the wrong way when I tell you my feelings are not hurt by your decision not to buy a Qualia 006.

Originally posted by JimP
Its the weekend. Posting activity usually drops off during the weekend and shouldn't be taken as deliberate silence.

Excellent point.

Originally posted by BrettStah
Also, maybe the other 006 owners (and there aren't that many of them) don't have their sets in a room like you're talking about, so they aren't in a position to give you feedback on it. Or maybe it was felt that brt3's reply was sufficient.

Exactly.

There are a lot of questions posted. Most owners try and do the best they can responding to the inquiries.

It is very short-sighted to be so judgmental based upon a purported dearth of responses in 24 hours to your burning question. It is people like you that "silence" the helpful posters that do answer questions, and make it easy for them to just enjoy their 006 and not even bother with trying to be helpful to others. :mad:

Dobe,

I am a 006 owner and it is my opinion you will not have any problems in a well lite or sun-lite room. I don't think you would want to position your TV in direct sunlight as common since would dictate. The 006 is plenty bright enough, I feel to handle any home environment. I honestly believe you will not see any "wash out". I was not at the CES show but I believe the lighting conditions there were quite bright and the 006 still shined! One of our owners, I think it was rcohen, had eye pain from the 006 in a completely dark room. I think this translates a very bright screen in which I am sure you will be happy with. Good luck with your decision and sorry about the delay in providing a response.

Originally posted by brt3
DOBE,


Please tell me what kind of TV display actually works well in these conditions. Plasma won't do it when the display is set to optimize PQ. I'll bet anyone here lunch at my favorite restaurant in St. Helena that at this price point there's not another set that could match the Qualia's PQ, even in these conditions. I think the "emmissive vs. reflected light" argument is specious, in that both display types have light that is coming out of a glass viewing surface.


I agree with your first comment and, additionally, reality itself can be
compromised by poor viewing conditions.

Reflected light can be difuse and/or specular. It may be that an emitting (point) source of light can do a better job with reproducing specular reflections.

Dilbert1

<<<diffuse>>> I need a spell checker when typing fast.

Dilbert1

Originally posted by DOBE
So that was it. One last issue with several easy to answer questions asked in my last post. I received Zero direct responses. (I will note that rbt3 did have the courage to buck the trend of this thread and was honest enough to tell me...in answer to a previous post...that potential owners might have problems with this set in the environment I described.)

The rest of you came in loud and clear...or, put another way, your silence speaks volumes. The PQ of this set obviously suffers in filtered sunlit rooms but no one wants to incur the wrath of the other owners by saying it. You shout to the mountain tops about the quality of the picture but no one has the intestinal fortitude..except brt3...to say that some potential owners will likely be disappointed if they frequently watch this set in a sunlit room.

Also, saying that "006 owners prefer ambient light" doesn't address the issue. Ambient light is the lighting that exists at the moment. It doesn't answer the question of how the Q006 handles bright directional sun light.

Not all displays are ideal for every viewing situation. It's okay for you guys to admit that the Q006 is not ideal for every viewing environment. Each person must make the decision concerning what display to purchase based on their own viewing situation. The conclusion I've drawn based on the silence to my last post...and brt3's answer to my previous post...is that filtered sun light, especially if it comes from behind the viewer or to the sides of the display will...as with other RP displays, but to a lesser extent...wash out or at a minimum significantly degrade the PQ.

I guess ignoring this issue is better than lying about it.

DOBE,
Real sorry to hear how you feel. I sometimes feel bad when there's no response from a post that I made. I did remember someone responding to your inquiry, and I thought that was an adequate response. If you really want to hear from a 006 owner with large windows concerning PQ, then I will give my 2 cents. Remember that I am just a videophile wannabe, but what I do believe is that any TV out there will have a significant effect when sunlight is projected into their environment. Of course the 006 is gorgeous in low light situations, but is very acceptable viewing during daylight periods. I would feel bad for you (not sorry) if you decide not to buy this fantastic TV based on this experience.

Originally posted by Dilbert1
I agree with your first comment and, additionally, reality itself can be
compromised by poor viewing conditions.

Reflected light can be difuse and/or specular. It may be that an emitting (point) source of light can do a better job with reproducing specular reflections.

Dilbert1

BTW, I don't mean there is no basis for the emitted vs. reflected light argument, only that the Qualia sets a new standard for sustained light output that makes is far less susceptible to this syndrome. IMHO, the Qualia's output renders this argument moot (or nearly so). Run a CRT maxed out and the life will be cut WAY short. I have my Q006 in very bright conditions, while my plasma display is in a room that gets far less sunlight. The plasma actually does worse in bright conditions than the Qualia. Both sets are very dialed in according to DVE. I think the Qualia's anti-reflective screen helps here; the plasma screen reflects "bright spots" in the room more clearly than the Q006.

jb007,

You have to admit we do sound like a bunch of Sony salesmen, but I think that just furthers the point of the quality of the Qualia!

Originally posted by DOBE

Beware if you are a potential buyer of the Q006 and you have the set in a brightly sunlit room. The owners won't tell you this directly...for reasons that should be obvious to anyone who has followed this thread...but this is clearly what they believe.



Aside from the fact that people are busy I suspect that your answer depends upon actually seeing your environment. If you feel you have a difficult viewing situation, for any reason, the only reasonable think to do is to arrange a demo in your house unless you have the money to take the chance.

I've seen window views that were not great because of internal reflections from other windows in the house. Even reality can be compromised.

I think the TV looks wonderful in some situations and suspect that it is less so in others.

Dilbert

Does anyone know if it is possible to copy a JPEG (or any other file for that matter) from your computer TO a media card ? I purchased a media card reader today that is supposed to allow reads and writes, but haven't been able as yet to copy a JPEG to a Sony memory stick pro card that I have inserted in the reader and connected via USB to my computer. I want to be able to view JPEGs from my digital camera that are captured on an xD card on the 006, so I uploaded the images from my camera to my computer and now would like to download those images to the Sony memory stick pro card.

I agree with all the other owners - I don't have the extreme lighting issues as DOBE has, but I have had ZERO problems watching the 006 during daylight hours even with a bay window that is directly behind the 006 facing north in which 14 inches of snow on the front lawn were reflecting massive amounts of light into the room on a sunny day. Luckily all the light was not reflecting directly onto the screen but the room was full of light. There is NO set that could perfectly handle the amount of light reflecting in DOBE's room, unless it had a 1000 watt bulb probably, but the 006 does a damn good job in any environment I've seen so far.
:) :) :)

The Qualia will look great in a well lit room but my version of well lit may
not be yours. Use judgement.

Dilbert1

nhey,

I think all Sony products want to see the files written in a specific way. That is, all the pictures from my Sony use a very specific file naming system:

DSC00129.JPG

Try renaming your files using this convention and see if that helps...

DOBE –

I’m sorry that you feel the way you do. In my particular situation, I have placed my 006 in a dedicated home theater room so, I hesitated to even fathom a guess as to how the 006 would perform in your particular environment.

That mainly accounts for my lack of response to your query. I JUST DON’T KNOW.
There is nothing sinister here bud.

My other excuse for lack of response is that if I recall correctly, everytime you asked for some info on the Qualia, you listed multiple questions that were extremely lengthy....I mean we're talking War and Peace length. Call me dumb, stupid (after all I did indeed purchase a 13K display that has no return policy) or someone with an exceedingly short attention span…….but personally when I see anybody’s post of that length I just kind of skim by it to something that is more palatable.

After all this isn't supposed to be work here..... but fun.

I think you honestly just misread everyone.

I truly appreciate you guys taking the time to respond to this issue...that only seems to be a concern to me. I'm partially frustrated by the fact that I can't yet view this display with my own eyes and I can't return the set if I decide it doesn't work in my HT environment. Given that situation, I was really depending on you guys to help me with this major buying decision.

I was just disappointed in the lack of response and drew what I thought was the most logical conclusion. Anyway, your recent responses have fired me up again and I will wait to see this display with my own eyes before I rule it out. It should be coming to Sacramento in the next few months.

If Colortv is out there I would be interested in his opinion on the washout issue. Thanks again.

Originally posted by Penton-Man
DOBE –

My other excuse for lack of response is that if I recall correctly, every time you asked for some info on the Qualia, you listed multiple questions that were extremely lengthy....I mean we're talking War and Peace length. Call me dumb, stupid (after all I did indeed purchase a 13K display that has no return policy) or someone with an exceedingly short attention span…….but personally when I see anybody’s post of that length I just kind of skim by it to something that is more palatable.

After all this isn't supposed to be work here..... but fun.

I think you honestly just misread everyone.

I do have a habit of being a bit verbose. :D I try to get my point across clearly... but I guess not succinctly. By the time I'm done I realize, O brother this is too long and what if no one reads it. :D I will try and keep my posts shorter. This ones fairly short. :)

Originally posted by DOBE
I truly appreciate you guys taking the time to respond to this issue...that only seems to be a concern to me. I'm partially frustrated by the fact that I can't yet view this display with my own eyes and I can't return the set if I decide it doesn't work in my HT environment. Given that situation, I was really depending on you guys to help me with this major buying decision.

I was just disappointed in the lack of response and drew what I thought was the most logical conclusion. Anyway, your recent responses have fired me up again and I will wait to see this display with my own eyes before I rule it out. It should be coming to Sacramento in the next few months.


DOBE,
Good to hear that you're all fired up again on the 006. I have a feeling that you're gonna get a whole bunch of responses the next time you have another question on the 006!

Originally posted by DOBE
I do have a habit of being a bit verbose. :D I try to get my point across clearly... but I guess not succinctly. By the time I'm done I realize, O brother this is too long and what if no one reads it. :D I will try and keep my posts shorter. This ones fairly short. :)

There ya go bud!:)
I think you'll get alot more for your money this way.

And if you do revert back, just.... chop em up a bit and feed them to us poor souls in small mouthfuls over the course of several postings.

Works for me.

JimP; I shoot sports... Most of the time my son's baseball team. Here is one of my favorite pictures of my son:

http://www.pbase.com/acm/image/4127219/original

Look close at the ball on the bat

How about some screen shots of the Grammies ... should look fabulous on the Qualia!

Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
JimP; I shoot sports... Most of the time my son's baseball team. Here is one of my favorite pictures of my son:

http://www.pbase.com/acm/image/4127219/original

Look close at the ball on the bat

Great, great shot! What are the particulars?

Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
JimP; I shoot sports... Most of the time my son's baseball team. Here is one of my favorite pictures of my son:

http://www.pbase.com/acm/image/4127219/original

Look close at the ball on the bat

Viper,
Beautiful shot!!!!!!! What camera and lens did you use.

Originally posted by nhey
Does anyone know if it is possible to copy a JPEG (or any other file for that matter) from your computer TO a media card ? I purchased a media card reader today that is supposed to allow reads and writes, but haven't been able as yet to copy a JPEG to a Sony memory stick pro card that I have inserted in the reader and connected via USB to my computer. I want to be able to view JPEGs from my digital camera that are captured on an xD card on the 006, so I uploaded the images from my camera to my computer and now would like to download those images to the Sony memory stick pro card.

There is actually a file system that's placed an a memory stick when photos are taken. Try making a folder called DCIM. In that folder make another folder called 101MSDCF. In that folder place your photos and name them DSC00108, etc. There is another folder also. It's named MISC. Be aware there are informational files in that folder and the 101MSDCF folder and that may be the problem. Good luck :)

nhey,

If you know someone with a SonyCam you could also use their camera to format your MemoryStick. jb007 is correct about the hierarchical file system the camera uses; just double-checked on my wife's camera...

I have several canon 1D cameras (1d =4mg, 1ds= 11mg, 1d MII =8mg)... The picture posted was with 1d 4mg... Picture is blown up in sons room 24X36 and looks like the post (no noise). The lens is the Canon 300 2.8L

Here is a quick picture from the Grammy's... excuse the alignment... taken from my couch with a 70 -200 lens (quick snap)

How about Usher and his girl firend:

Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
JimP; I shoot sports... Most of the time my son's baseball team. Here is one of my favorite pictures of my son:

http://www.pbase.com/acm/image/4127219/original

Look close at the ball on the bat


Great shot. Love that stop action. Great focus.

Here's the kind of stuff I photograph.

Scanned from a print.

Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
How about Usher and his girl firend:

Was Usher even in that photo?! :D :D

Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
I have several canon 1D cameras (1d =4mg, 1ds= 11mg, 1d MII =8mg)... The picture posted was with 1d 4mg... Picture is blown up in sons room 24X36 and looks like the post (no noise). The lens is the Canon 300 2.8L

Wow, I'm envious. Doesn't that lens run about the cost of 2.5 Q006 stands?

Originally posted by nhey
Does anyone know if it is possible to copy a JPEG (or any other file for that matter) from your computer TO a media card ? I purchased a media card reader today that is supposed to allow reads and writes, but haven't been able as yet to copy a JPEG to a Sony memory stick pro card that I have inserted in the reader and connected via USB to my computer. I want to be able to view JPEGs from my digital camera that are captured on an xD card on the 006, so I uploaded the images from my camera to my computer and now would like to download those images to the Sony memory stick pro card.
The 006 photo viewer defaults to the standard picture folder, but you can change the folder to any folder on the card. The files don't need to follow any naming convention. So, all you need to do is drag the JPGs anywhere on the memory stick.

JimP;

Looks like you're a pro photographer... I am just an hobbiest... Here's a couple wedding shots of my niece's wedding (since you shoot this type of photos):

http://www.pbase.com/acm/image/8082291


http://www.pbase.com/acm/image/8082228


http://www.pbase.com/acm/image/8082270

ahhhhhhh,
It looks like the ambiance to the Qualia 006 club has been restored.

Everybody interacting and helping each other with a photog aside.

Great stuff guys, very informative.

I had Comcast install both a cablecard and the 6412. They first said No but when I questioned why, they had no reason. Bottom line, it works fine and makes it easier to watch regular cable. In fact, in a split comparison of the 6412 (using component) and regular cable (using cablecard) the picture is much better with the card. If you want both, get pushy.

Originally posted by rcohen
The 006 looks pretty close to perfect in a well lit room. The only concern is reflections off the screen surface. If you have windows that would be directly reflected by the screen, you either need to cover the windows or avoid all displays with glass screens. Similarly, white surfaces that receive direct light will be a problem, if they would be reflected by the glass. When the 006 is off, the screen appears black. TVs with gray screens have more problems with ambient light.
DOBE, the above post was intended to be a direct response to your question. So, watch out for bright stuff that will be directly reflected in the glass. If you have any posters covered with glass, try placing them where you would put the 006, to see if you need to worry about direct reflections. If this is a serious problem, you need to avoid all screens with glass covers. On some RPTVs, the glass cover can be removed. The surface underneath is typically diffuse, and therefore much less prone to problems with direct reflections. I don't think that removing the glass on the 006 is possible.

Here are a few screen shots of J.LO... For those of you wondering abount the detail of this set... Look at her necklace in the first picture.

J. Lo 2

J.Lo 3... Look at the detail of the set:

Awesome pictures!!!! You can really see the detail, give us more.

Was in Best Buys today, and looked at all the DLPS, JVC-D'ILA, etc. Also stopped in at a Tweeters to look at all their plasmas including the top-of-the-line Pioneer.

Then I thought about the 006.

Guess what?

NO COMPARISON.

Like night and day - skin tones on those sets were a joke compared to the perfect skin tones on the 006. Yes, I know, the sets in the store are not "set up correctly", but there was not a single one I would put in the same class.

Just look at SRT-10s photos. Have you ever seen detail like that on a TV?- and remember you are looking at a low rez image.

Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
J.Lo 3... Look at the detail of the set:

...and what a nice set they are...

:-D

Originally posted by nhey
Was in Best Buys today, and looked at all the DLPS, JVC-D'ILA, etc.

Then I thought about the 006.

Guess what?

NO COMPARISON.

Like night and day - skin tones on those sets were a joke compared to the perfect skin tones on the 006. Yes, I know, the sets in the store are not "set up correctly", but there was not a single one I would put in the same class.

WHAT A DIFFERENCE.

Careful, you don't want to sound too much like a salesman ;)

:D :D :D :D

Originally posted by texas_buff
I had Comcast install both a cablecard and the 6412. They first said No but when I questioned why, they had no reason. Bottom line, it works fine and makes it easier to watch regular cable. In fact, in a split comparison of the 6412 (using component) and regular cable (using cablecard) the picture is much better with the card. If you want both, get pushy.

TB,

When I picked up my two 6412 boxes they told me there was NO way the box would work along with a CableCard on the same set. I had to have a service rep out because my system would not work properly. I asked him to bring out a CableCard.

Net result: we tried for hours to get the CC to work on my Qualia006 at the same time it was hooked up to the 6412. The set saw the card, but would not give any picture output from the CC. Very frustrating, as I was looking for a very quick/dirty/simple solution for my wife and daughter...

Originally posted by brt3
Net result: we tried for hours to get the CC to work on my Qualia006 at the same time it was hooked up to the 6412. The set saw the card, but would not give any picture output from the CC. Very frustrating, as I was looking for a very quick/dirty/simple solution for my wife and daughter...

Just a suggestion, but I wonder if the cable card was activated by the cable company. I'm a DirecTV user, and with DirecTV you can't just put a card in the receiver, it has to be activated to work.

It did take awhile to get the card to work. The cable guy did mention that he had done very few cards and about half had a problem and needed a replacement. The process that worked was; turn off set, insert card, cable guy called in and had it addded to my account and activated. At first it did not work so we called back and they had forgot to activate. After they activated we went to 006 menu and did a reset of the card. It then went out and found all the channels and has worked fine ever since. We used a normal splitter in front of the 6412 and card. It does work.

Exactly brt.

This is very interesting.

texas_buff,
please elaborate if possible.......that is if you were present during your installation.

oops,
It looks like you guys type faster than me.
Thanks texas.

Here you go Pepco... Look at the sweat on her chest.

Good one brt3


Indeed they are. I can't imagine why Ben got tired of them?

try again

I guess the servers are too busy... I can't get anymore pictures posted.

Originally posted by sycore
What did he put as first and second? The new JVC an LG LCoS?


First was the Texas Instrument 1080P DLP set made by TI to demonstrate their DMD chips and it was gorgeous. Like the JVC, it was in a dedicated room and that helps. Second was the JVC HD-ILA in 1080P at 70". Since the TI set was solely demo it's not fair to say it was first. The SXRD did look soft and the more I think about it, it was probably not set up right for some reason. It lacked punch and looked blah. Since that is obviously not the case with the people on this thread it deserves a second look. The Toshiba using SED technology is suppose to raise the bar for all formats but it will be the end of this year at the earliest before anyone sees it.

Hugh

Don't you have anything better to do than drive by the various theads and try and start small fires.


Next time you give us one of these stories, here is a tip...........have a point. It makes it much more interesting for the listener.

Originally posted by MotorMouth777
Don't you have anything better to do than drive by the various theads and try and start small fires.


Next time you give us one of these stories, here is a tip...........have a point. It makes it much more interesting for the listener.

sycor asked me a question and I answered it. Have a nice day.

Hugh

Imagine......The Jaws theme.........................................

Suddenly silence...........Is there anyone out there...........

Originally posted by HughScot
.... Have a nice day.

Hugh

I can't imagine you mean that. Your posting history suggests otherwise.

Dilbert

Originally posted by jb007
Just a suggestion, but I wonder if the cable card was activated by the cable company. I'm a DirecTV user, and with DirecTV you can't just put a card in the receiver, it has to be activated to work.

jb007,

We went through every procedure known to man. The first service guy tried everything he could do, including having the central office send through about 4 or 5 activation hits. After an hour he gave up and called his supervisor, who showed up fairly promptly. The super told me not to worry, that he'd definitely get it working for me. An hour later he, too, gave up...

Originally posted by brt3
jb007,

We went through every procedure known to man. The first service guy tried everything he could do, including having the central office send through about 4 or 5 activation hits. After an hour he gave up and called his supervisor, who showed up fairly promptly. The super told me not to worry, that he'd definitely get it working for me. An hour later he, too, gave up...

:( :confused:

Originally posted by texas_buff
I had Comcast install both a cablecard and the 6412. They first said No but when I questioned why, they had no reason. Bottom line, it works fine and makes it easier to watch regular cable. In fact, in a split comparison of the 6412 (using component) and regular cable (using cablecard) the picture is much better with the card. If you want both, get pushy.

I wondered about this exact scenario myself. I assume by utilizing the CableCard, the QAM tuner feeds the internal Sony scaler directly - without any intervening electronics or conversion.

On the 6412, you have to specify the output for your monitor (1080i, 720p, 480p or 480i) and everything is converted (or is it just the HD?).

For ease of use of the rest of the family, this set up makes perfect sense - especially if you have the speakers attached:

• Use the TV w/attached speakers and internal tuner for casual viewing.

• Use the 6412 as a standalone PVR/DVR (or whatever!) hooked to surround sound for Theater Time.

For owners, I have one question: What can be output from the optical digital out connector on the 006?

Is it just the PCM/DD audio from digital tuned stations, or will the 006 pass along PCM/DD/DTS from the HDMI inputs?

The Grammys + The Qualia 006 = WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by jm_etue
For owners, I have one question: What can be output from the optical digital out connector on the 006?

Is it just the PCM/DD audio from digital tuned stations, or will the 006 pass along PCM/DD/DTS from the HDMI inputs?

My understanding is that the 006 will only pass audio from digital sources through optical/digital out; that regular/analog channels from the 6412 cannot have their audio output digitally. No A/D audio converter, I guess. I would imagine that any audio passed over HDMI will pass through as you discuss...

Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
J.Lo 3... Look at the detail of the set:

Awesome ... almost like being there! Thanks for the photos.

Wow, I take a couple of days to play KOTOR2 and come back to find that I'm ten pages behind....

Anyway, in the wake of HughScot's and DOBE's remarks, here's what I think is a useful* viewpoint from a non-Qualia owner.

Wait, what I meant was, "as a non-Qualia owner posting on the Qualia 006 Owner's Thread which was conceived by jb007 to provide help and guidance to all current and prospective Qualia 006 owners . . . ." ;)

I've been shopping for an HDTV since Late 2003. I've been waiting and waiting and waiting for the set that is "what I want". During that time, I was specifically waiting for CES because my 3 top choices were precisely the ones that HughScot mentioned: The Sony SXRD, the JVC HD-ILA, and the Samsung xHD3-based set.

All three are very bright, all three are 1080p, all three have discrete remote codes for inputs. There's three things checked off my list. For the rest of the discussion, I can only assume that picture quality is the same, since only the Qualia is actually shipping today.

My living room has a big bay window facing the TV on the opposite wall, so I need a TV that's bright bright bright that can't burn in. DOBE, I share your concern. But based on my research, if you need bright, then you want DLP or LCoS, and preferably LCoS.

Here's why I plan to buy the Qualia 006:
It's great, and it's available for sale today (whenever the hell the boat gets here). It has a great scaler, and good connectivity for gaming PC's (via HDMI). I like the looks of the set itself. And it's remarkably free of "little issues" that make working with it difficult.

Samsung: I've been waiting for a long long time for the 1920x1080 DLP. Samsung says it'll be out sometime this summer. They said it would be out sometime last summer. I, frankly, don't believe them. Also, Samsung's DLP's have had issues with their scaler, which shows up in "sound delay issues". I am not a fan of the pedistal stand. No one knows what the discrete codes are for the HDMI inputs on the HLP's, as of the last time I checked.

JVC: All indications are that it will have great picture, as the current generations do, with some qualifications. JVC says it will be out in September--I hope they meet that date, but what if they don't? Even if I wait, it's not like I'll be getting it at half the price of the Qualia--and if I wait that long I expect the Qualia will be down in price, too. So I think the price argument is a red herring. The current JVC scaler is craptastic for PC use, but the new ones will have different electronics. Are they better for PC use? Dunno. Will the chromatic aberrations in the optics be corrected? Dunno. I do like the looks of the set itself--a little bit more than the Qualia even. But there's just too many unknowns with the JVC for me to be certain that it's worth waiting for, especially when the Qualia is here today and is what I want. If the JVC were available today I might even choose it over the Qualia, but it's not.

Honestly, I think the only thing that might make me later "regret" choosing the Qualia is if Sony brought out a new version that accepted 1080p@30Hz input directly. How likely is that, considering the limitations of the HDMI chips that everyone uses?

The problem with HughScot's post is that all he really says is that something better (in his opinion) is on the horizon. Of course there will be something better if you wait. The problem is, I've been waiting for over a year already. A TV is here that fills the bill. Yeah, it's expensive. But I can afford it, so that's not a deal-breaker. (I've been saving for over a year, remember?) I'm okay with spending more to have it now than waiting to get it much cheaper. You can do that indefinitely.

The real question is whether or not there's a compelling reason to wait for something specific. HughScot thinks there is. I don't.

--Dwayne

* Well, maybe it's not useful at all. In that case, screw you guys! I posted it anyway! :D

Hey Penton!

Don't you skip over my post!

I don't care how long it is, you go right back and read it right now! :p

--Dwayne

Originally posted by Zechman
The problem with HughScot's post is that all he really says is that something better (in his opinion) is on the horizon. Of course there will be something better if you wait. The problem is, I've been waiting for over a year already. A TV is here that fills the bill. Yeah, it's expensive. But I can afford it, so that's not a deal-breaker. (I've been saving for over a year, remember?) I'm okay with spending more to have it now than waiting to get it much cheaper. You can do that indefinitely.

The real question is whether or not there's a compelling reason to wait for something specific. HughScot thinks there is. I don't.


Now that's what I've been saying all along, good job Zechman! :D

BTW, Have you placed your order yet?

Dwayne,

Nice post. Thanks for your contribution!

Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
ColorTV; What type of center speaker and speaker system do you use... Looks like Bose from the Sub. Where did you put the center speaker?

Yep, it's a 5 year old Bose Acoustimass system. Of course there are better speakers out there, but I'm quite pleased with the audio I'm getting and I appreciate the small footprint of the speakers. You can see the center channel speaker on the upper center shelf of the stand directly under the center of the 006.

Originally posted by DOBE
I truly appreciate you guys taking the time to respond to this issue...that only seems to be a concern to me. I'm partially frustrated by the fact that I can't yet view this display with my own eyes and I can't return the set if I decide it doesn't work in my HT environment. Given that situation, I was really depending on you guys to help me with this major buying decision.

I was just disappointed in the lack of response and drew what I thought was the most logical conclusion. Anyway, your recent responses have fired me up again and I will wait to see this display with my own eyes before I rule it out. It should be coming to Sacramento in the next few months.

If Colortv is out there I would be interested in his opinion on the washout issue. Thanks again.

DOBE,

As I am sure I mentioned in a previous post, the only negative about a brightly lit room is reflections onto the Qualia's semi-matte screen. My TV room is very brightly lit during the day by 2 huge skylights which have diffusion shades such that no direct sunlight enters the room. I don't see any hint of washout. But certain viewing angles reflect the light colored walls of my viewing room onto the screen of the 006. I've posted this photo before, but here it is again. I certainly can't see a hint of washout in this photo which was taken without a tripod at ISO 100 setting on my Canon Powershot S400. Note the richness of the image - no washout at all. I'm not sure, but I think I used the camera's flash for this photo.

I was just noticing the side speakers on colorTV's jpg above.

Is it the general concensus that even if you don't use the side speakers, that visually its better to leave them in place to offset the silvery bands above and below the screen???? How does it look without the speakers??

Originally posted by Zechman
The real question is whether or not there's a compelling reason to wait for something specific. HughScot thinks there is. I don't.

You mentioned cheaper prices and 1080p. The only other thing I can think of is dynamic iris, which would improve viewing in the dark.

Originally posted by JimP
I was just noticing the side speakers on colorTV's jpg above.

Is it the general concensus that even if you don't use the side speakers, that visually its better to leave them in place to offset the silvery bands above and below the screen???? How does it look without the speakers??
I prefer mine without the speakers. It depends on your setup. It's easy to add and remove them, if you'd like to experiment.

When I see some of these photos, I'm confused...
Colortv's
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=5177290&fullpage=1
The blacks on the screen appear darker than the black frame around the picture (see the bottom). Even with my 006 powered off, the screen is a bit lighter than the frame! How is this possible?

And in the dark...
Viper's
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?s=&postid=5176005&fullpage=1
...the blacks appear almost as dark as the surrounding frame. Again, my blacks don't get that dark. Are your blacks really this dark, or do they just look that way in your photographs? What do you have the iris, power level, and picture set to?

The blacks I'm getting now are better than before, but I wouldn't describe them as beautiful, as others have done. I wonder what's going on. Am I being overly picky? Is there something wrong with my 006? Have I bungled the settings?

rcohen; Can't explain why the blacks are darker other than could be the result of the digital camera effect off the screen.

Viper, how did you have your TV set when you took the photo? Are your blacks really as dark as they appear in the photo?

Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
rcohen; Can't explain why the blacks are darker other than could be the result of the digital camera effect off the screen.


My best guess is that its a flash picture based on the specular highlight on the right side of the frame towards the top. See how it got reflected back on a curved edge.

Also, if you notice, the vertical black bar on the left is darker than the one on the right denoting light falloff from flash.

So the blacker blacks on the screen didn't catch the light as much as the vertical bar on the right.

or maybe it was just "magic" :p

JimP, that makes sense. The frame is glossy, but the screen is diffuse, so the frame could appear brighter due to a reflection.

It's all in the optics....you can set your camera just like adjusting black level on your set.....to cut off at a point & make it black .....also on your computer monitor it may not be at cut off but your monitor is cutting it off , or turn up the black level & you may have some gray....Very good pictures.

Originally posted by Zechman
Hey Penton!

Don't you skip over my post!

I don't care how long it is, you go right back and read it right now! :p

--Dwayne
No problem bro. I’m on my third cup of coffee and it’s the beginning of the week.:D
Seriously, that’s an excellent summation in a concise manner which in an indirect way actually covers many of the points already discussed in the “Sony jumps” thread of which I know that you were a reader of.

If anybody out there is a well meaning, serious potential buyer of the 006 or its competition, I again recommend that it would be of great value to at least skim many of the pages of the “Sony jumps” thread where alot of these issues were discussed in detail and helped many of us owners to make a decision to buy (and for others to pass - for perfectly legitimate reasons I might add!)

Again, excellent summation, by a person with no ax to grind or hidden agenda.

rcohen; The TV is set on standard, warm is the only change. I did tweek the picture once complete, however the Frame would change with the tweaking too. I looked at my set today and some of the blacks are close to the color of the black edges.

Originally posted by kaduku
The Grammys + The Qualia 006 = WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Totally agree.

It was better than being there – because you didn’t have to fight the L.A. traffic to get to Staples and it forced my receiver to actually exercise its brain for several hours continuously for the 5.1 sound.

For me, the most moving moment was listening to Melissa Ethridge belt out an outstanding rendition of one of Janis Joplin’s classic hits, followed by a nod of approval from arguably the greatest sportsmen of recent memory and a fellow cancer survivor.

DOBE – I wish you could have seen that show last night on the 006, it was absolutely glorious in Qualiavision.

so have any of you lucky Qualia owners use the inHD tuneup from this recent Saturday morning to tweak the cable input to your 006 ? Any noticeable picture improvement ?

Kaduku, JB, Penton: Thanks for the positive feedback. I've had a LONG time to think things through and distill it down to a few key points, including a concerted effort to talk myself out of plunking down 13K for a TV when, to put it in perspective, all three cars in the driveway aren't worth that much combined.

Kaduku: Haven't placed an order yet, but I have called Qualia to get a list of dealers in the DC area that will be carrying it. Called a couple of them and all say that it'll be at least two weeks until they expect to see stock, and some weren't even that optimistic.

But since DocDVD posted that he already has stock as of last week (top of page 61), I figure that early March is probably on the level. But it does put me in the same position as MotorMouth in wondering where the hell that boat is!

If anyone's interested in the DC area list (actually the MD/VA/DC list), PM me. Qualia just gave me name and town. I dug up the addresses and phone numbers myself for all but one.

Penton: Well of course it's a summation of the "bandwagon" thread. At the risk of sounding like a book title, everything I know about SXRD I learned in the "bandwagon" thread (and/or from my daddy Rogo). :)

--Dwayne

Originally posted by Zechman

But it does put me in the same position as MotorMouth in wondering where the hell that boat is!

Well, since you guys keep asking about where the boat is…..it’s now in the East China Sea and finally headed in the proper direction……(fixed the rudder problems)

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~fsinc/yachts/videos/page1.htm

I'm still itching to pull the trigger on this set, but I have to know how to feed a 1080p signal into it! It sounds like 1080p output from a PC is a no go but 1080i works, can anyone describe how this happens? For example, someone posted pics of a PC playing a 1080p movie ("Amazon" I believe) over a 1080i output, so what's happening here? If the film is a 1080p30 movie, is the PC outputting 1080i30 losing half the resolution per frame, or is it outputting 1080i60 which the 006 converts internally to 1080p30?

Basically I want to be able to play 1080p PC movies and potentially a few games on the 006, and some folks in this thread have gotten close with 1080p movies and Half-Life 2 but I'm having trouble figuring out what's happening behind the scenes since it's obviously not a 1080p connection to the PC. Anyone have any answers or even moderately wild guesses? :)

I don't know if this is the one that ColorTV was recommending. It's ten bucks after rebate.

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=311655&pfp=BROWSE


[Link Corrected to remove referral]

DOBE-
Just read your post, and wanted to relay the following:
My TV room has three full-glass french doors (no panes) on one end that face southwest. The doors had no coverings on them. The TV and couch are both perpendicular to said doors. We had a bunch of people over to watch the Superbowl (southern CA, 3pm). The weather was overcast, and the Qualia was in "Pro" mode. Everyone marvelled at the picture. At some point, the sun decided to come out (coincident with the Pats figuring out how to play offense), and at the angle of the sun vs. the doors, approximately 1/4 of the TV was hit by "direct sunlight". For those of us at an angle to see the reflection, the picture was still visible, but not bearable. I went upstairs and grabbed a thin white curtain that had been taped up in our bathroom (it is a new house, shades are on order) and covered the offending french door (just the one whose light was "catching" the TV). The curtain is sheer enough that you can recognise people 15ft away when looking through it. Result: better, but still bothersome. Then, I set the picture mode to "vivid", and all the problems disappeared. Everyone resumed enjoying the game, no complaints etc. Pro mode is significantly darker than Vivid, and that made the difference. We have a series of 100w recessed lights that are directly reflected to our viewing area. I notice them with Pro mode, and only slightly on dark material in Vivid mode. With Vivid on, the experience is very similar to watching my Fujitsu 50" plasma when it was in the same place, if that reference helps. Your experience/tolerance for reflected light will be different than mine (admittedly non-videophile, as well as my friends), but hopefully this real world example will shed some light (sorry, I couldn't resist :-) on your decision.
Penton- sorry for the long post, please put the paddle away.

Originally posted by karson
I'm still itching to pull the trigger on this set, but I have to know how to feed a 1080p signal into it! It sounds like 1080p output from a PC is a no go but 1080i works, can anyone describe how this happens? For example, someone posted pics of a PC playing a 1080p movie ("Amazon" I believe) over a 1080i output, so what's happening here? If the film is a 1080p30 movie, is the PC outputting 1080i30 losing half the resolution per frame, or is it outputting 1080i60 which the 006 converts internally to 1080p30?

Basically I want to be able to play 1080p PC movies and potentially a few games on the 006, and some folks in this thread have gotten close with 1080p movies and Half-Life 2 but I'm having trouble figuring out what's happening behind the scenes since it's obviously not a 1080p connection to the PC. Anyone have any answers or even moderately wild guesses? :)
I haven't tried it, but I noticed that the 006 has the same deinterlace settings for 1080i as it does for 480i. That implies that it uses the same algorithm. Good deinterlaces switch between preserving resolution or frame-rate, depending on the contents of the signal, and/or detect film input, for 3:2 pulldown. With good de-interlacers, this is done without visible artifacts. These kinds of artifacts are much less visible at 1080i, so it's less important to have a good deinterlacer. I think the 006 uses a good one, so you should be in really good shape.

On the PC side, the game uses a full 1080p frame buffer. If the game can run at 60fps, it renders the whole frame buffer at 60fps, and only outputs even or odd scan lines, discarding the rest. It's not much different than what happens with a 1080i camera. At 30fps, the PC still renders at 1080p, but outputs both fields (even and odd) from each frame.

Since you can't really see a combination of fast motion and high detail, the difference between 1080i and 1080p inputs should be really, really, subtle, but 1080p is technically better, since the deinterlace step can be skipped.

I'd be more wary of multiple conversions. For example, if the PC deinterlaces and scales video, then re-interlaces it on the output, then the 006 re-deinterlaces and/or scales it, you're more likely to get a blurry picture and/or interlacing artifacts than with a single processing step. It will probably only be a serious problem if one of the processing steps is poor quality, though.

The scaler in my Time Warner cable box sucks! I wish I could just leave it on 1080i, but 480 and 720 programs look like crap when the box does any scaling on them. I wish the output resolution would switch automatically, so the 006 could do the scaling.

Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
I looked at my set today and some of the blacks are close to the color of the black edges.
What about in the dark?

Could someone try this please?

If you own a Sony digital camera, could you try to paste a jpeg file that is stored on your computer's hard drive TO your memory stick ? As I mentioned before, I'd like to view photos on my Olympus camera's xD memory card on the 006, and could do that if I could paste those photos from my hard drive to a Sony memory stick pro card and media reader that I bought for that purpose.

Please let me know.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by rcohen
[B]I haven't tried it, but I noticed that the 006 has the same deinterlace settings for 1080i as it does for 480i. That implies that it uses the same algorithm.


rcohen -

If by "deinterlace settings" you are referring to the DRC mode settings in the user menu, note that the user manual on page 110 states that they are NOT available for 480p, 720p, and 1080i.

Originally posted by Zechman
including a concerted effort to talk myself out of plunking down 13K for a TV when, to put it in perspective, all three cars in the driveway aren't worth that much combined.
--Dwayne
A TRUE videophile !:)

Originally posted by SABAlove

Penton- sorry for the long post, please put the paddle away.
Geez, guys, don't go all paranoid on me !
I do have an attention span longer than a gnat.

As to putting the paddle away, yes I will.....as long as nobody asks that famous line...."May I have another sir ?"

P.S.
How's SABA like the 006?:)

She's almost willing to give up fetch... but not quite!

Originally posted by nhey
If by "deinterlace settings" you are referring to the DRC mode settings in the user menu, note that the user manual on page 110 states that they are NOT available for 480p, 720p, and 1080i.
Hmm. When playing with the 006, I remember noticing that they were not available for 480p or 720p, but that they were for 1080i. I might have made a mistake, though.

Originally posted by nhey
Could someone try this please?

If you own a Sony digital camera, could you try to paste a jpeg file that is stored on your computer's hard drive TO your memory stick ? As I mentioned before, I'd like to view photos on my Olympus camera's xD memory card on the 006, and could do that if I could paste those photos from my hard drive to a Sony memory stick pro card and media reader that I bought for that purpose.

Please let me know.
I already did this and it worked fine. The only snag was that I had to change the folder on the 006, since it defaulted to the standard picture folder.

I've improved my webpage to have links to:

screenshots
pix of the Q006 (both with and without speakers)
dimensional drawing in pdf format
brochure in pdf format
link to Qualia US website

http://homepage.mac.com/raythompson/

Still a work in progress; advice requested!

(PS: I will try to rescale the images of the set with and without speakers; I realize they are too big but this is a "quick & dirty" first effort)

Originally posted by nhey
Could someone try this please?

If you own a Sony digital camera, could you try to paste a jpeg file that is stored on your computer's hard drive TO your memory stick ? As I mentioned before, I'd like to view photos on my Olympus camera's xD memory card on the 006, and could do that if I could paste those photos from my hard drive to a Sony memory stick pro card and media reader that I bought for that purpose.

Please let me know.

nhey,

Just tried this with a memory skick pro MajicGate and transfered photos from my hard drive to the memory stick. Hope that helps.

Originally posted by brt3
I've improved my webpage to have links to:

screenshots
pix of the Q006 (both with and without speakers)
dimensional drawing in pdf format
brochure in pdf format
link to Qualia US website

http://homepage.mac.com/raythompson/

Still a work in progress; advice requested!

(PS: I will try to rescale the images of the set with and without speakers; I realize they are too big but this is a "quick & dirty" first effort)

Nice stuff, brt3. There's now a link to your web page in the updated post #1. Thank you!

Hey Guys,

My cierge, Hans, just sent me a nice note apologizing for the delay of the 006 and two free DVDs. Air Force One and a chick flick for the wife. BTW, Air Force One looks fantastic one the 006. Did anyone else get anything like this?

sj

jb007,

What do you think is going on with the time delay with those ordering sets in Feb? I thought Sony was shipping something like 4500 this month?

sj

Its gonna take forever..................................................... ............................................................ ...................................

Originally posted by sparkysj
jb007,

What do you think is going on with the time delay with those ordering sets in Feb? I thought Sony was shipping something like 4500 this month?

sj

I have no idea.

We'd all heard the first batch of 006's delivered consisted of 300 units that were flown in. Many of us acted quickly, so as not to be left out.

As for those waiting on their orders, I've heard nothing related to dates or quantities. I suspect once they start flowing again there will be ample supply.

Originally posted by JimP
I was just noticing the side speakers on colorTV's jpg above.

Is it the general concensus that even if you don't use the side speakers, that visually its better to leave them in place to offset the silvery bands above and below the screen???? How does it look without the speakers??

I left the Sony speakers on my TV for the reason you mention. I think they look cool. But I listen to everything through my a/v receiver if for no other reason that the effort involved in going to the Qualia's audio menu to switch outputs back and forth between the TV's speakers and external. For many shows the Qualia speakers would be acceptable, but I prefer to eliminate excessive button pushing. It's just easier to turn on the a/v receiver. I've never seen my 006 without the speakers.

Originally posted by JimP
My best guess is that its a flash picture based on the specular highlight on the right side of the frame towards the top. See how it got reflected back on a curved edge.

Also, if you notice, the vertical black bar on the left is darker than the one on the right denoting light falloff from flash.

So the blacker blacks on the screen didn't catch the light as much as the vertical bar on the right.

or maybe it was just "magic" :p

In my post I stated that the photo was taken without flash. I took several pics, some with and without flash. Closer inspection of this image makes me think that is one of the flash pics because of the reflection on the frame you pointed out. The darker line you mention is probably a shadow cast onto the edge of the screen from the flash.

Originally posted by colortv
I left the Sony speakers on my TV for the reason you mention. I think they look cool. But I listen to everything through my a/v receiver if for no other reason that the effort involved in going to the Qualia's audio menu to switch outputs back and forth between the TV's speakers and external. For many shows the Qualia speakers would be acceptable, but I prefer to eliminate excessive button pushing. It's just easier to turn on the a/v receiver. I've never seen my 006 without the speakers.

I agree, colortv, the speakers add a chic look to the design.

Originally posted by sparkysj
I agree, colortv, the speakers add a chic look to the design.

Two reasons why I kept the Sony speakers on.

1) For the wife.
2) Keeps it looking wider and bigger.

Originally posted by slocko
I don't know if this is the one that ColorTV was recommending. It's ten bucks after rebate.

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=311655&pfp=BROWSE

No, that's not the one. It can't handle the load from the Qualia and my other components. I went with the Belkin 1500VA. $100 from Belkin's site when you enter the coupon code 12345 (half the list price).

But the 500VA you reference is a heck of a deal and would be a choice choice for most home PC installations. A UPS is a very good thing to have!

[Link Corrected to remove referral]

Originally posted by nhey
Could someone try this please?

If you own a Sony digital camera, could you try to paste a jpeg file that is stored on your computer's hard drive TO your memory stick ? As I mentioned before, I'd like to view photos on my Olympus camera's xD memory card on the 006, and could do that if I could paste those photos from my hard drive to a Sony memory stick pro card and media reader that I bought for that purpose.

Please let me know.

I tried something similar and it did not work. I don't have a Sony still camera, but my Sony mini-DV camera takes stills (bad ones) and save them onto a memory stick. Those images will display on the 006 but as always, video cameras do a terrible job of shooting still photos and they look just awful on the 006 (SD video from the mini-DV camera looks suprisingly good however).

Using a card reader and my G5 Mac, I transferred a jpg image taken with my Canon digital camera from the Canon's CF card to a Sony memory stick and put the stick into the 006. The TV did not recognize the jpg file. I think there is metadata stored on the memory stick when a Sony camera shoots the original photos - that metadata may be required for the TV to view the contents of the memory stick. Maybe someone else had better luck or has a definitive answer.

Originally posted by kaduku
Two reasons why I kept the Sony speakers on.

1) For the wife.
2) Keeps it looking wider and bigger.

Kaduku,

I argee, my wife likes looking at the 006 on OR off. I thinks see mostly sees it as a nice piece of furniture!

sj

Originally posted by HughScot
sycor asked me a question and I answered it. Have a nice day.

Hugh

Hugh, thanks for the reply. Don't let the Sony sheep get you down. They seem to have trouble enjoying what is easily the best RP set currently available. At least until mid to late 2005, when the LG and JVC 1080 LCoS are released.

Originally posted by colortv
I tried something similar and it did not work. I don't have a Sony still camera, but my Sony mini-DV camera takes stills (bad ones) and save them onto a memory stick. Those images will display on the 006 but as always, video cameras do a terrible job of shooting still photos and they look just awful on the 006 (SD video from the mini-DV camera looks suprisingly good however).

Using a card reader and my G5 Mac, I transferred a jpg image taken with my Canon digital camera from the Canon's CF card to a Sony memory stick and put the stick into the 006. The TV did not recognize the jpg file. I think there is metadata stored on the memory stick when a Sony camera shoots the original photos - that metadata may be required for the TV to view the contents of the memory stick. Maybe someone else had better luck or has a definitive answer.

A quick and dirty definiitve answer would be to buy a sony digital camara. I guess you would also need a Sony PC. Hmmm...., sounds like Sony has alittle forsight here.

Whether or not you're a fan of "24" check it out on your 006. The dimly lit "CTU" interiors look great and show the shadow detail capabilities of the TV.

I stopped by Good Guys again today. I can't put my finger on it, but not one of their displays regardless of technology, has the lifelike look and richness of SXRD. Even emissive direct view LCD's and more expensive plasmas don't have the awesome "WOW" factor . I've never been able to explain why film looks different than video, and the analogy is similar when comparing SXRD. Perhaps someone can help nail down the semantics for people who may be considering the 006 but don't have the opportunity to see one in person. I can't find the words.

The Grammy's last night just looked incredible! Even the U2 performance with the white hot background. I'm sure many TV's, SD or otherwise, had a problem with that song. SDTV's in my house didn't handle it well, making the performers appear to be in silhouette against that hot backlight. But the 006 loved it. Just amazing!

Originally posted by sycore
Hugh, thanks for the reply. Don't let the Sony sheep get you down. They seem to have trouble enjoying what is easily the best RP set currently available. At least until mid to late 2005, when the LG and JVC 1080 LCoS are released.

I'm not having trouble at all enjoying the best tv in town.

Originally posted by sycore
Hugh, thanks for the reply. Don't let the Sony sheep get you down. They seem to have trouble enjoying what is easily the best RP set currently available. At least until mid to late 2005, when the LG and JVC 1080 LCoS are released.

During the long evaluation period when I was trying to fall in love with pre-SXRD RPTV's, I paid numerous visits to JVC D-ILA RPTV's. I wasn't concerned about brands, only the best HD and SD images. During that research period I quickly developed a distaste for DLP and LCD RPTV's. I really wanted to like JVC's sets. I think they are nicely styled and make a decent picture. But I was really turned off to the color fringing problem, poor shadow detail, lack of sufficient connectivity, and horrible SD scaling. JVC's production 1080 RPTV's need to be much better than the current 720 offerings. Not just 1080 capable, but take a cue from Sony's Qualia 006 lead. Prototypes like the one shown at CES are nice (I did not attend the show), but can JVC deliver the goods in mass production? I hope so. In the end, we all benefit when the bar is raised higher.

As for LG, I haven't seen anything from them yet that gets me excited. Hopefully some future product.

Originally posted by sparkysj
jb007,

What do you think is going on with the time delay with those ordering sets in Feb? I thought Sony was shipping something like 4500 this month?

sj

As a point of reference, when I called Qualia on Friday, the cierge ("Janet") told me that they were operating on a 4-week timeframe for delivery.

Methinks the first 300 are indeed sold out, and we're waiting for the next batches to arrive--even if you buy from the Qualia/SonyStyle stores. Based on what other dealers told me, those 4500 (if that's really true) are arriving at most places by early March. Maybe earlier on the west coast, but I'm just speculating.

--Dwayne

Where the hell is that boat?

colortv: I was THIS CLOSE to buying the JVC until I read UMR's evaluation in the D-ILA owner's impressions thread. That was enough to make me step back enough to see the horror that is the D-ILA scaler if you have any aspirations of connecting a PC, and to later find out that it's not exactly 720p, which is the underlying reason. Like I said earlier, if the JVC 1080p version were available now, I might choose it over the Qualia, but there are too many unknowns at this point to be sure.

--Dwayne

My upholstery person came by to measure the 006 for my optex cover project. He suggested to me to use velcro on one side of the corners rather than using the elastic band. He said that the cover will have a cleaner and tighter look. Remember I am just covering the screen. It should be done by Friday. :D

Originally posted by kaduku
My upholstery person came by to measure the 006 for my optex cover project. He suggested to me to use velcro on one side of the corners rather than using the elastic band. He said that the cover will have a cleaner and tighter look. Remember I am just covering the screen. It should be done by Friday. :D

kaduku,

Got my fabric today! I was planning on using velcro along one of the side seams on my set cover; this should allow me to get the "tailored" look without it being impossible to get on and off. I'm really tied up for the next two weeks, and will get together with my cover-sewer as soon as things calm down a bit...

Also, got my fabric today.

Wow, those guys ship FAST!

I haven't decided exactly what the final product will be.

Originally posted by kaduku
My upholstery person came by to measure the 006 for my optex cover project. He suggested to me to use velcro on one side of the corners rather than using the elastic band. He said that the cover will have a cleaner and tighter look. Remember I am just covering the screen. It should be done by Friday. :D

Is he just going to hem the edges and sew on the velcro at the corners?
I would love to see a picture of this attached and where you are putting the velcro attachment points on the TV.

I have been using a soft blanket.

Dilbert1

I am building drywall fixtures to hide the lift motors for gold curtains complete with tassles. Lighting is synchronized with the curtains complete with brass horns.

Just kidding. I will have to settle with a cover like you guys are making. My concern is with ease of use. Right now I just throw a very soft blanket over the front face but it makes everything look like we are getting ready to paint. I think it is important to have a good and attractive fit since I will probably want to keep the screen protected even if we have friends over. Of course I will remove it if we are actually going to watch a movie.http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/images/icons/icon12.gif
Wink

Pictures are still beautiful. My wife and I enjoy all of your posts.

Dilbert

Originally posted by Dilbert1
Is he just going to hem the edges and sew on the velcro at the corners?
I would love to see a picture of this attached and where you are putting the velcro attachment points on the TV.

I have been using a soft blanket.

Dilbert1

I have been using a satin bed sheet. Works, but looks awful, can't wait for this cover to be finished. We decided not to hem the edges because it wasn't necessary. We had to design the cover so that one person can put it on and the same time have a tight tailored look (remember I'm short). We decided to have the top corners sewn, instead of one side only. The bottom corners will have the velcros. This is the first time the upholstery guy is making something like this, so I am taking a chance.

Originally posted by Dilbert1
I am building drywall fixtures to hide the lift motors for gold curtains complete with tassles. Lighting is synchronized with the curtains complete with brass horns.

I almost believed this :D I was like saying "Damn, check out this guy"

Originally posted by colortv
I went with the Belkin 1500VA. $100 from Belkin's site when you enter the coupon code 12345 (half the list price).

I've got a question about the Belkin 1500VA. Do you think that it's a sufficiently competent power conditioner for the Q006? I was thinking of pairing it with a ZeroSurge or Brickwall SM-type surge protector.

??

Thanks...

I see lot's of posts on having covers built for the Qualia and am wondering why you guys want to cover the TV. Is it dust? I'm just curious and want to determine if this is something I want to do.

Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
I see lot's of posts on having covers built for the Qualia and am wondering why you guys want to cover the TV. Is it dust? I'm just curious and want to determine if this is something I want to do.

I am not concerned with dust. As I have posted before, it would be a shame
to bump and scratch the front screen. A careless moment with something hard and sharp could cause a problem. Truth is I don't know what it would take to scratch the screen and I don't want to find out.

Dilbert

Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
I see lot's of posts on having covers built for the Qualia and am wondering why you guys want to cover the TV. Is it dust? I'm just curious and want to determine if this is something I want to do.

I have a 10 yr old, who is very responsible (believe it or not), and understands how careful I am with my toys. My viewing area is also fairly large, so theres no crowding around the TV. Of course if theres a party, I wouldn't want to keep the cover on anyways. I do have a midget Dachshund, but he can't reach the screen. My worry is mainly dust. My old 70 RPTV was prone to this. I had two and both had dust. I actually saw something that looked like lint (behind the glass). That experience traumatized me, so now you know why I am so paranoid about dust. I know both the LCD RPTV and the 006 have solid seals around the screen, but I am not taking a chance on a $13,000 TV, or for any price for that matter.

Originally posted by Dilbert1
I am building drywall fixtures to hide the lift motors for gold curtains complete with tassles. Lighting is synchronized with the curtains complete with brass horns.

Yikes,
Like kuduku….you really got the wheels turning in my head after reading that first paragraph – i.e. what contractor to get, how much more money, how much down time ?

It’s creepy what we’ll do to embellish this display.

Originally posted by SRT-10 Viper
I see lot's of posts on having covers built for the Qualia and am wondering why you guys want to cover the TV. Is it dust? I'm just curious and want to determine if this is something I want to do.
Ditto for me in regards to all the reasons as listed above.

In addition, I foresee a day in the future when I have laborers in that room to do something like change out the flooring, etc. and I would like this to be the first cover of protection.

It actually seems like the same fabric as the little rag to clean the screen – that Sony includes as an accessory.

Originally posted by Penton-Man

It actually seems like the same fabric as the little rag to clean the screen – that Sony includes as an accessory.

Yes, based on Radtech's website, you can actually use it to clean the screen.

I’ve tried jp2’s settings for a couple nights now with a DVD player and cable boxes hooked up via both component and DVI/HDMI or straight HDMI and I found his caveat (i.e. – his settings were arrived at via HTPC hook-up and may not correlate well with other sources) to be especially valid for me.

I found the brightness level to be WAY too high for all of the above.

Colortv, jb007 and any other Sony NS975 DVD owners,

It looks like Sony has just released a new firmware version to correct potential tray lock/ disc won’t play problems.
I don’t know your warranty window for parts/labor but it may be worthwhile checking out.

Any news on the Harmony 880. I'm holding off getting anything else. I don't mind jugling several remotes for another month or two. :D

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Colortv, jb007 and any other Sony NS975 DVD owners,

It looks like Sony has just released a new firmware version to correct potential tray lock/ disc won’t play problems.
I don’t know your warranty window for parts/labor but it may be worthwhile checking out.

Thanks for the heads-up PM. Any link to where we can learn more info?

Originally posted by 3deye
I've got a question about the Belkin 1500VA. Do you think that it's a sufficiently competent power conditioner for the Q006? I was thinking of pairing it with a ZeroSurge or Brickwall SM-type surge protector.

??

Thanks...

I don't think the 1500VA is designed to be a power conditioner, although it claims to have "AVR" automatic voltage regulation and pure sine wave. The outlets are clearly labeled "surge protection." I'd suggest a call to Belkin - their staffers are quite competent. And I think the call center is actually here in the USA! Now that's a "shocker," no pun intended?

My setup has the Belkin 1500VA plugged into the wall and a Monster HTS 5100 power conditioner plugged into the Belkin. All components are plugged into the Monster. As a test, I pulled the plug on the Belkin and watched TV last night on the Belkin's battery for at least 10 minutes before plugging it back in. My DVR, a/v receiver, and the Qualia 006 never knew what I was up to. There was not the slightest video or audio glitch or change in PQ when I pulled the plug on the Belkin. No doubt it had more than 10 minutes of operation available, but the test was sufficient for me.

Originally posted by kaduku
Any news on the Harmony 880. I'm holding off getting anything else. I don't mind jugling several remotes for another month or two. :D

I believe the Harmony 880 is to be released in April. Here's a link (http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/detailsharmony/US/EN,CRID=2084,CONTENTID=9933) to the website. It should be an awesome remote :)

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Colortv, jb007 and any other Sony NS975 DVD owners,

It looks like Sony has just released a new firmware version to correct potential tray lock/ disc won’t play problems.
I don’t know your warranty window for parts/labor but it may be worthwhile checking out.

Penton,

Thanks for the heads-up. Did you hear how to obtain this new firmware? I wonder how it's installed? Since my player is fairly new I wonder if update is already installed. I haven't had any problems with my player with frequent use.

Originally posted by Penton-Man
It looks like Sony has just released a new firmware version to correct potential tray lock/ disc won’t play problems.
I don’t know your warranty window for parts/labor but it may be worthwhile checking out.

Penton-Man, how did you learn about this upgrade? (I just googled it and couldn't find anything.) Do you have a url that we can go to?

Originally posted by Penton-Man
It’s creepy what we’ll do to embellish this display.
After reading the last few days of posts I would say you guys probably
qualify to start a new support group, "Qualia's Compulsive Syndrome".
Once exposed..........there is no cure;) :D :D
The competition certainly has a tough act to follow now.
Something tells me there will be a car tag with SXRD on it very soon.

Cheers,
Martin

Could someone try to copy a JPEG image not obtained from your Sony camera from your computer hard drive to a Sony memory stick, and then see if you are able to view that JPEG image on the 006? The reason I ask is because someone (Colortv?) suggested that the 006 may only display JPEGs created by a Sony camera.

where do you guys buy your candles that you use to put around the 006???? :D i want to make sure i buy the same ones.

Originally posted by slocko
where do you guys buy your candles that you use to put around the 006???? :D i want to make sure i buy the same ones.

From the QUALIA boutique, of course :D

Fellow Qualians,
There is truly a great vision to behold on the 006 coming on HDNet:
2-17-05 (Thursday)
5:45 PM ET
2:45 PM PT InFocus
IMAX - The Greatest Places - The Greatest Places will take you on a journey to seven of the most geographically dynamic locations on Earth. Witness the greatest collection of diversity ever produced.

This will be one to record and/or archive for those with the ability.

Martin

Hello all 006 owner's,
As promised to me, my set arrived this afternoon. I purchased the set thru DocDvd and it was a smooth transaction. The delivery was white glove which went smooth. Unfortunately, my home theater setup is not going to be installed until Feb. 25th so I won't be able to view the set till then.

Walter

Originally posted by jb007
Thanks for the heads-up PM. Any link to where we can learn more info?
I was in my local authorized servicer to pick up my Panny DVD with its newest firware upgrade and the manager and I were discussing all the tray lock/disc not playing problems of the Sony.

He mentioned to me that he expected to get a CD with the newest firmware for the Sony (just like he did for my Panny) any day now.

So, I recommend you call your local authorized Sony servicer and have them request the latest firmware upgrade for your DVD player. Then when they get it in, you can take your player in….. so the downtime is minimal.

Color – I highly doubt that your player has this firmware as apparently it is hot off the press.

Originally posted by kaduku
Any news on the Harmony 880. I'm holding off getting anything else. I don't mind jugling several remotes for another month or two. :D

You said it right, Kadkuu, I am definitely getting one of these bad boys. And BTW if anyone has any ideas of accessories for the 006 that has worked for you or think they will work, please let us know!

sj

Originally posted by Tulsa1
After reading the last few days of posts I would say you guys probably
qualify to start a new support group, "Qualia's Compulsive Syndrome".
Once exposed..........there is no cure;) :D :D

Boy, aint that the truth.

I’ve already forgotten about the 13K price tag of the set and am now totally into the Accessorize Mode.

My wife thinks I’ve gone bonkers.
:eek:

Originally posted by TANKFULL
Hello all 006 owner's,
As promised to me, my set arrived this afternoon. I purchased the set thru DocDvd and it was a smooth transaction. The delivery was white glove which went smooth. Unfortunately, my home theater setup is not going to be installed until Feb. 25th so I won't be able to view the set till then.

Walter
Congrats on joining the Qualia club.

Next stop..... Compulsive Syndrome.

OCQD: Obsessive-Compulsive Qualia Disorder

Originally posted by sparkysj
You said it right, Kadkuu, I am definitely getting one of these bad boys. And BTW if anyone has any ideas of accessories for the 006 that has worked for you or think they will work, please let us know!

sj
But....wait.....won’t that be a waste of money with the Qualia bird being obsolete and all by the end of the year?

Perhaps a poor investment.
:D

Originally posted by TANKFULL
Hello all 006 owner's,
As promised to me, my set arrived this afternoon. I purchased the set thru DocDvd and it was a smooth transaction. The delivery was white glove which went smooth. Unfortunately, my home theater setup is not going to be installed until Feb. 25th so I won't be able to view the set till then.

Walter

TANKFULL,

Congrats and welcome to this very inclusive and exclusive club! I just don't think I could wait till the 25th!

sj

Denzel W. finally got his 006 yesterday.
Plans to get another for the bedroom.

Has me thinking already.

Originally posted by brt3
OCQD: Obsessive-Compulsive Qualia Disorder
There ya go...now that it's official - your local health care provider has a way to bill your insurance company so it shouldn't be so much out of pocket for us.:D

HiDef Bob,

Which Vancouver Sony Store has the 006? I was planning to take a trip up there from Seattle in a couple of weeks to take a look at the 006 to see where I'm going to spend my next extra 13K+ *LOL*. I tried to look online but there are a few different stores listed. Just want to make sure I'm not hunting all over town. *S*

Originally posted by Penton-Man
But....wait.....won’t that be a waste of money with the Qualia bird being obsolete and all by the end of the year?

Perhaps a poor investment.
:D

Penton-Man,

Being an OC, I don't think so. Jusy have to buy the newest model, say the 012?

sj

Originally posted by sparkysj
You said it right, Kadkuu, I am definitely getting one of these bad boys. And BTW if anyone has any ideas of accessories for the 006 that has worked for you or think they will work, please let us know!

sj

I have a brunette, about 5'7", curvaceous . . . oh, never mind . . .:D

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Denzel W. finally got his 006 yesterday.
Plans to get another for the bedroom.

Has me thinking already.

What??? I thought Denzel & Paulette were getting the first one? Hmmm, I wonder if they'll get a free display stand out of it :confused: :D

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Denzel W. finally got his 006 yesterday.
Plans to get another for the bedroom.

Has me thinking already.

Wasn't there a post way back in early January that said DW was getting #1? Too bad the poor guy has missed out on some incredible HD since then.

The Grammy's look great on Comcast with the exception of the strobe light stuff. I don't know if it was Comcast or the DVR or just the nature of HD broadcasting, but apparently the few instances where they used strobe lights sucked a lot of bandwidth - lots of tiling during all those flashes. I wonder how it looked via OTA/ATSC? Anyone watch the whole show that way and remember seeing what I describe?

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Denzel W. finally got his 006 yesterday.
Plans to get another for the bedroom.

Has me thinking already.

One for the indoor pool room, the sports bar room, and privite study room...

Originally posted by jb007
I have a brunette, about 5'7", curvaceous . . . oh, never mind . . .:D

Hook her up!

Originally posted by jb007
I have a brunette, about 5'7", curvaceous . . . oh, never mind . . .:D
Boy, you San Diego people (are you listening Joel ?) are absolutely killing me.

Originally posted by jb007
What??? I thought Denzel & Paulette were getting the first one? Hmmm, I wonder if they'll get a free display stand out of it :confused: :D
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!
I shouldn't have posted about that freebie but, I'm too lazy to go back and find it to delete it.:) I'm hoping Howard S. doesn't read this forum.

Only crazies like us on AVS forum got the freshest of the fresh - because having the OC Syndrome- we're more prone to bugging the hell out of the cierges..... and they want to get us off their backs ASAP.

Movie stars can wait. :D

Originally posted by sparkysj
One for the indoor pool room, the sports bar room, and privite study room...
How the hell did you know??? THAT'S exactly where it went .....or to be more precise the "pool house."

Originally posted by colortv
Wasn't there a post way back in early January that said DW was getting #1? Too bad the poor guy has missed out on some incredible HD since then.

No, that was ME until some smart whuper snooper came around.
Actually I believe DW was in the batch of the first 10, it's just that they couldn't take delivery until now.

You know, scampering all over the world and such.

Originally posted by colortv

The Grammy's look great on Comcast with the exception of the strobe light stuff. I don't know if it was Comcast or the DVR or just the nature of HD broadcasting, but apparently the few instances where they used strobe lights sucked a lot of bandwidth - lots of tiling during all those flashes. I wonder how it looked via OTA/ATSC? Anyone watch the whole show that way and remember seeing what I describe?
Yes, I saw exactly the same thing about 3-4 times with my Adelphia cable DVR.

To me, the only show that matched the Grammy's for incredible picture is C.S.I. Miami.

Originally posted by colortv
Wasn't there a post way back in early January that said DW was getting #1? Too bad the poor guy has missed out on some incredible HD since then.

The Grammy's look great on Comcast with the exception of the strobe light stuff. I don't know if it was Comcast or the DVR or just the nature of HD broadcasting, but apparently the few instances where they used strobe lights sucked a lot of bandwidth - lots of tiling during all those flashes. I wonder how it looked via OTA/ATSC? Anyone watch the whole show that way and remember seeing what I describe?

Same tiling effect OTA :(

Well, I had my wife on her hands and knees last night……...measuring and cutting fabric..O.K.!

I decided to go with the ease of use type cover rather an all encompassing type. Reason being is that if I don’t have a quick on and off solution for this cover…nobody in my family will end up taking the time to use it and it will defeat the whole purpose.

I simply ran a long strand of Velcro on the top of the 006 and then about 16” strands along the lower portion of the back of each speaker. We put matching strands on the optex fabric and I took it into our local seamstress this a.m. to sew the Velcro securely onto the fabric.

Just picked it up a few minutes ago before they closed and she fits like a glove. The on or off takes no more than 20- 30 sec. Works for me. This is great fabric, you don’t even need to hem it after you cut it because it doesn’t ever fray.

Next compulsion ??

Originally posted by jb007
Same tiling effect OTA :(

I guess there's no getting around compression, even on digital OTA. Fact of life in the digital age. I'm getting used to it ... sigh ...

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!
I shouldn't have posted about that freebie but, I'm too lazy to go back and find it to delete it.:) I'm hoping Howard S. doesn't read this forum.

Only crazies like us on AVS forum got the freshest of the fresh - because having the OC Syndrome- we're more prone to bugging the hell out of the cierges..... and they want to get us off their backs ASAP.

Movie stars can wait. :D

Penton-Man, you are exactly right! I am sure those cierges took great pleasure in scatching each and everyone of us off their list when our 006's shipped. Then it was on to NVC! My god, the hell we gave those nice people! We should send THEM thankyou notes. BTW, we should try to get DW to join the forum. Maybe colortv has some contacts?

sj

Well, my upholstery guy started getting greedy with me. Just because I have a nice house, in a nice neighborhood, with three Mercedes Benzs, and of course a $13,000 TV, and let's not forget, a beautiful wife. He thinks I'm freakin' rich. Remember I wanted to do the elastic band method, but the guy thinks that the cover will sag too much or fall off easily, so he suggested to do the velcro method, which will take a week to do. He also wanted to do one corner first, then come back to my place and check the fitting, then do another corner and repeat the process again until all corners are done. Then he says that since he charges per hour and has to go back several times to my place, the job is estimated to cost about $200.00 I said forget that! I immediately brought the fabric to this nice old lady, who had never seen the 006, and based everything on my measurements. It took her an hour and a half to finish it and she charged me only $25.00 plus 30% for the rush job :D Here's the finish product. I am extremely happy.

Here's another shot from the side :D

ps... I was just kidding about all those stuff, except for the TV and the wife!

What does Sony say about the cover? Is there any static build-up? These set contain integrated circuits. Just wondering.

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Shhhhhhhhhhhhh!
I shouldn't have posted about that freebie but, I'm too lazy to go back and find it to delete it.:) I'm hoping Howard S. doesn't read this forum.


What does Howard Stern have to do with this? :p

Besides, what are they gonna do, take away the stand and leave your 006 sitting on the floor? ;)

Originally posted by kaduku
Well, my upholstery guy started getting greedy with me. Just because I have a nice house, in a nice neighborhood, with three Mercedes Benzs, and of course a $13,000 TV, and let's not forget, a beautiful wife. He thinks I'm freakin' rich. Remember I wanted to do the elastic band method, but the guy thinks that the cover will sag too much or fall off easily, so he suggested to do the velcro method, which will take a week to do. He also wanted to do one corner first, then come back to my place and check the fitting, then do another corner and repeat the process again until all corners are done. Then he says that since he charges per hour and has to go back several times to my place, the job is estimated to cost about $200.00 I said forget that! I immediately brought the fabric to this nice old lady, who had never seen the 006, and based everything on my measurements. It took her an hour and a half to finish it and she charged me only $25.00 plus 30% for the rush job :D Here's the finish product. I am extremely happy.

First off, I am not inclined to get a cover. However, I must admit, that photo looks much better than I ever could have imagined :) (I guess that's par for the course with the 006 :p )

Qualia 006 will be available at major retailers soon. Spoke to a Sound Advice (Tweeter) store manager and he told me it will be available in April . Price is 13k and they will start taking orders soon. No other SXRD model in the pipeline. I wanna see it before I buy , specially with SD material from satellite.

Could anybody make comments on the stretching capability of the 006? Does it have something like the Pioneer Elite stretching that almost keep the 4X3 picture without distortion?

Thanks

Sergio

COLORTV

I saw the tiling on the Grammy as well on my soon-to-be-replaced-by-a-Qualia-Pioneer-Elite.

Sergio

Originally posted by kaduku
Here's another shot from the side :D

ps... I was just kidding about all those stuff, except for the TV and the wife!
Nice, job !
Clean lines !

Is it my imagination, or does every Qualia 006 owner have a beautiful television AND a beautiful wife ?

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Nice, job !
Clean lines !

Is it my imagination, or does every Qualia 006 owner have a beautiful television AND a beautiful wife ?

You may find yourself,
In a beautiful house...
You may find yourself,
With a beautiful wife...
And you may say to yourself,
Well, when will my Qualia get here?

Originally posted by slimoli
Could anybody make comments on the stretching capability of the 006? Does it have something like the Pioneer Elite stretching that almost keep the 4X3 picture without distortion?

Thanks

Sergio


I'm the perfect guy to answer your question since I replaced a Pioneer Elite 730hd with the Qualia. This was a very pleasant surprise. I must admit that I always thought the Pioneer stretch modes were the best, but I like the Qualia's wide zoom even more than the Elite's natural wide or cinema wide modes. The difference is that the Qualia's wide zoom does zoom in a touch more than the Elite. The result is that you get less of the top and bottom of the image cut off as you get with the Elite. With the Elite modes, you know you are using a stretch mode because letters appearing at the top or bottom during commercials get partially cut off. That does not happen with the Qualia, and you can also move the picture up and down (vertically) in the user menu. When watching standard def., I thought I would definitely just watch it in the "natural" mode with black bars on the left and right since I no longer fear "burn in", but I like the wide zoom so much, that I watch standard def. that way. I'm not saying there's zero distortion, but the minor distortion is definitely viewable.

Originally posted by jb007
What does Howard Stern have to do with this? :p

Besides, what are they gonna do, take away the stand and leave your 006 sitting on the floor? ;)
Well, you never know.

I heard that he was knighted "Sir" Howard Stringer by the Queen herself a few years back.

The Welshman may just send the palace guard to my house. It's lucky I can talk English football with him.

Hey, in regards to the Qualia Compulsion Syndrome, I recently upgraded my burgular alarm system.

You know, anybody joining this thread on the last page must think we're all nuts here.:D

Originally posted by slimoli
COLORTV

I saw the tiling on the Grammy as well on my soon-to-be-replaced-by-a-Qualia-Pioneer-Elite.

Sergio
Sergio,
I see you're in central Florida.
Some of the Qualia engineers (and marketing people of course) are actually in Fort Meyers.

Could possibly prove helpful in the future if something goes amiss.

Originally posted by TWD
What does Sony say about the cover? Is there any static build-up? These set contain integrated circuits. Just wondering.

Is there anything I should be concern here about static build-up and the cover? Anyone?

Originally posted by Penton-Man
You know, anybody joining this thread on the last page must think we're all nuts here.:D

Uh, probably from the first page! No, no, no -- make that from the previous bandwagon thread :D

Repost: I think this is important for folks (like me) who would like to view JPEGs on the 006 but don't own a Sony camera:

Could someone try to copy a JPEG image not obtained from your Sony camera from your computer hard drive to a Sony memory stick, and then see if you are able to view that JPEG image on the 006? The reason I ask is because someone (Colortv?) suggested that the 006 may only display JPEGs created by a Sony camera.

Originally posted by slimoli
Qualia 006 will be available at major retailers soon. Spoke to a Sound Advice (Tweeter) store manager and he told me it will be available in April . Price is 13k and they will start taking orders soon. No other SXRD model in the pipeline. I wanna see it before I buy , specially with SD material from satellite.

Stopped by my local (South Portland, Maine) Tweeter last night (Feb. 14th) and was told their warehouse (I assume it's located somewhere in New England, but I'm not sure.) had three 006's in stock (and two of those were already sold). Asking price? $13k and NO discounting.

Be skiing ya,

DSG

Originally posted by kaduku
Is there anything I should be concern here about static build-up and the cover? Anyone?

I would not be concerned with static build up. The chassis is tied to earth. The shipping bag would build up a greater static charge than your cloth.

Dilbert1

Originally posted by Dilbert1
I would not be concerned with static build up. The chassis is tied to earth. The shipping bag would build up a greater static charge than your cloth.


Thanks Dilbert1, I can sleep in peace tonight!

Originally posted by sparkysj
we should try to get DW to join the forum. Maybe colortv has some contacts?

Nah, not with DW. If he's a busy as I'm sure he is, he probably won't join us. But if he did, betcha it would be under a pseudonym.

For Shame Kaduku.............


Although that cover is beautifully crafted and does seem to protect your screen well......... isn't it kinda like putting a baggy sweater on the Swedish Bikini Team girls. Some things are just made to be gazed upon............................



On second thought, maybe that does protect it from spontaneous drooling eh?

Originally posted by MotorMouth777
For Shame Kaduku.............


Although that cover is beautifully crafted and does seem to protect your screen well......... isn't it kinda like putting a baggy sweater on the Swedish Bikini Team girls. Some things are just made to be gazed upon............................


You're absolutely right! The minute someone walks in, the top comes off.

I'm going to mount my Ideal Lume bias light tonight. I recall pics a bunch of pages back that showed a light one of you guys strapped to the back of the TV. The plastic lamp fixture is so featherweight I think it should stay put with the industrial strength Velcro from Home Depot. The light doesn't seem to get very warm so hopefully it won't warp the plastic cabinet and the mirror on the inside over time. Any thoughts before I do the deed?

Originally posted by nhey
Repost: I think this is important for folks (like me) who would like to view JPEGs on the 006 but don't own a Sony camera:

Could someone try to copy a JPEG image not obtained from your Sony camera from your computer hard drive to a Sony memory stick, and then see if you are able to view that JPEG image on the 006? The reason I ask is because someone (Colortv?) suggested that the 006 may only display JPEGs created by a Sony camera.

nhey,

I tried it and it works! I copied two .jpeg files from my computer hard drive that were not taken with a Sony camera, into the directory structure I posted previously. While the pictures did appear on my computer from the memory stick, they did not appear on the camera LCD when I checked afterwards in the display mode, which initially led me to believe it would be a no go. However, when I inserted the memory stick into the 006, it immediately recognized the two copied photos, plus another one I had taken with the camera. I then put the 006 into slide-show mode just to confirm and it worked flawlessly.

Here's my suggestion: Go to Good Guys, Best Buy, etc. tomorrow with your memory stick in hand. Place it into one of the Sony digital still cameras on display and take one or two shots. Go home and insert the memory stick into your PC and bring up "my computer." Click on the memory stick, which should be listed as a removable drive. Navigate to the folder containing the two sample photos you took at the store. Load your .jpegs into that folder and you should be good to go. I did not alter the .jpegs resolution from my computer or or do anything else. Each transferred photo displayed on the 006 perfectly.

Hope this helps.

Originally posted by colortv
Nah, not with DW. If he's a busy as I'm sure he is, he probably won't join us. But if he did, betcha it would be under a pseudonym.

OK, OK, I confess. My name is Washington, Denzel Washington.




:D :D :D

Oh yeah, and this may be cheap, but one more post and I'll be bowling a perfect game :D

rogo is clearly off limits and need not worry because he is in another stratosphere (in more ways than one :D).

Penton-Man, registered in 9/04 already has 680 posts, at this writing, 251 of which appear in this thread!

I will be celebrating my four year anniversary next month (registered 3/01, wow, so long ago, before 9/11 :( ) and despite being given the honor of starting this thread, have only posted here 92 times.

I guess that means I have to be more responsive and helpful to you guys! :) Sure wish I could get post credit everytime I update post #1 ;) , so at least it would give the appearance I'm contributing as much as Penton-Man, colortv = 192, kaduku = 158, nhey = 127, and brt3 = at an even 100.

Cheers and thanks to all that make this such an informative and fun place to hang out.

jb007 aka DW

Originally posted by jb007
nhey,

I tried it and it works! I copied two .jpeg files from my computer hard drive that were not taken with a Sony camera, into the directory structure I posted previously. While the pictures did appear on my computer from the memory stick, they did not appear on the camera LCD when I checked afterwards in the display mode, which initially led me to believe it would be a no go. However, when I inserted the memory stick into the 006, it immediately recognized the two copied photos, plus another one I had taken with the camera. I then put the 006 into slide-show mode just to confirm and it worked flawlessly.

Here's my suggestion: Go to Good Guys, Best Buy, etc. tomorrow with your memory stick in hand. Place it into one of the Sony digital still cameras on display and take one or two shots. Go home and insert the memory stick into your PC and bring up "my computer." Click on the memory stick, which should be listed as a removable drive. Navigate to the folder containing the two sample photos you took at the store. Load your .jpegs into that folder and you should be good to go. I did not alter the .jpegs resolution from my computer or or do anything else. Each transferred photo displayed on the 006 perfectly.

Hope this helps.

Thanks. I'll try it. My Sony mini-DV videocamera takes stills (bad ones) onto a memory stick. I'll snap a photo with it, then copy some other pics from my computer hard drive to the stick and try it in the Qualia.

Originally posted by jb007
Cheers and thanks to all that make this such an informative and fun place to hang out.

AGREED! There are some cool dudes in this forum. I have learned a lot. When I started shopping for an HDTV one year ago I was clueless about the displays available on the consumer side. I almost bought a plasma because it looked good and I didn't know where to begin getting reliable info to convince me to seriously consider anything else. Certainly not from the salesman at Ken Crane's! A friend pointed me to the AVS Forum and I am glad he did. I know I made a good choice buying the Qualia 006 and I would probably not have known about it if not for this forum. Thanks to all for sharing your ideas!

Originally posted by colortv
AGREED! There are some cool dudes in this forum. I have learned a lot. When I started shopping for an HDTV one year ago I was clueless about the displays available on the consumer side. I almost bought a plasma because it looked good and I didn't know where to begin getting reliable info to convince me to seriously consider anything else. Certainly not from the salesman at Ken Crane's! A friend pointed me to the AVS Forum and I am glad he did. I know I made a good choice buying the Qualia 006 and I would probably not have known about it if not for this forum. Thanks to all for sharing your ideas!

Ditto!!!!!!! :D

Originally posted by colortv
I'm going to mount my Ideal Lume bias light tonight. I recall pics a bunch of pages back that showed a light one of you guys strapped to the back of the TV. The plastic lamp fixture is so featherweight I think it should stay put with the industrial strength Velcro from Home Depot. The light doesn't seem to get very warm so hopefully it won't warp the plastic cabinet and the mirror on the inside over time. Any thoughts before I do the deed?

colortv,

You are right, very lite wt. I, in fact, just set the Lune at the crease where the TV just touches the wall. Looks very good against the wall and how the light baths the back wall and part of the ceiling. I was going to mount it on, but I am happy with how it looks now.

Originally posted by kaduku
Ditto!!!!!!! :D

Ditto,ditto!

Wait.

First jb007 is really Denzel Washington.

Now colortv is really Rush Limbaugh??? ;)

Alrighty-then, mega-dittos!

--Dwayne

Sooo, jb007, ummm, oh yea, what are you watching on the 006?

First post here and I'm sitting on the fence with respect to buying the 006 or waiting perhaps for a smaller SXRD... perhaps 50 to 60in. Apologies for the length of this post but I wanted to properly describe my situation.

Background: I've owned a Sony KV32XBR100 direct view CRT since 97. I must admit I've never liked rear projection and am a huge fan of really good tube sets (such as the XBR910 and XBR960). I wish they'd make the XBR960 tube in a 42inch set but I guess tubes are on their way out.

I'm in Toronto (Canada) . Our choices for HD (non OTA) are pretty limited since it is illegal to pay for US satellite services believe it or not. This may change but who knows. Recently got a Scientific Atlanta HD 8300 PVR through Rogers our local cable company. The HD channels (via s-vid or composite) look great on this ntsc set.

I've been waiting for an HD set that I felt was a leap forward. I saw the ads for the 006 and while in Vegas stopped by the Sony store. Brian showed me D* standard def material, HD material, and best of all --> Bluray demo. I was blown away by the trailer for Resident Evil Apocolypse Now. Also saw Bluray on the 004. Standard def material was ok on the 006.

Switch back to Toronto and a local Sony store with a Rogers (same provider as I have) HD box supposedly hooked up via component cables to the 006. No Blu-Ray or DVD. I came away disappointed. Standard def material was (for me) not watchable and the HD channels looked good but not amazing so I'm in a bit of a quandry. I'm not sure if the Rogers box outputs 1080i or native so perhaps the SD material was upconverted poorly to 1080 (by the cable box - likely a SA 3250) ... Perhaps they had it set up poorly ?

Ultimately one must watch a lot of SD material given Blu Ray and HD DVD is still on the horizon and most channels are SD. There's also a lot of SD upconverted material on HD channels. Some not done so well. So with my XBR (32in) I find SD material looks at least decent but with the 006's 70 inches SD images are blown up so much that the shortcomings are magnified.

Do the 006ers here watch HD material only or do you find SD material acceptable or are you watching primarily HD on this set and SD on smaller plasmas or tubes etc?

On good HD material the 006 is amazing, but I'm not sure I can live with it on standard def material. What to do.........?

Whats normal as far as terms go? Whats a good discount from MSRP - 10 % 20% 25%? A Sony store here said they would take it back (up to 30 days) but I want to be certain that I can live with the standard def material before re-organizing my HT room, heavy amps, large speakers, etc...

Any thoughts, suggestions, or help is greatly appreciated.....

Grant

Originally posted by jb007
Oh yeah, and this may be cheap, but one more post and I'll be bowling a perfect game :D

rogo is clearly off limits and need not worry because he is in another stratosphere (in more ways than one :D).

Penton-Man, registered in 9/04 already has 680 posts, at this writing, 251 of which appear in this thread!

I will be celebrating my four year anniversary next month (registered 3/01, wow, so long ago, before 9/11 :( ) and despite being given the honor of starting this thread, have only posted here 92 times.

I guess that means I have to be more responsive and helpful to you guys! :) Sure wish I could get post credit everytime I update post #1 ;) , so at least it would give the appearance I'm contributing as much as Penton-Man, colortv = 192, kaduku = 158, nhey = 127, and brt3 = at an even 100.

Cheers and thanks to all that make this such an informative and fun place to hang out.

jb007 aka DW

yea, and Oscar® and me sittin here at a cool 100.......:D

No, but really......thanks for years of late night lurking and tech reading and the occasional advice when a dollar or two is diverted to this hobby. This is one of the clearest threads on AVS forum; the rest of the forum should take a page from you guys. I'm sure no Qualia problem will go unsolved or question go unanswered...... Have fun and enjoy your toys...:D :D :D


- as a prospective Qualia owner posting on the Qualia 006 Owner's Thread which was conceived by jb007 (not DW!) to provide help and guidance to all current and prospective Qualia 006 owners.......

This is really weird. All this time you guys are talking about Denzel, I happen to be watching "Out of Time" and then his picture appears. What a coincidence, I mean the man, the movie, and watching it on the 006.

Originally posted by rcohen
On the PC side, the game uses a full 1080p frame buffer. If the game can run at 60fps, it renders the whole frame buffer at 60fps, and only outputs even or odd scan lines, discarding the rest. It's not much different than what happens with a 1080i camera. At 30fps, the PC still renders at 1080p, but outputs both fields (even and odd) from each frame.

Since you can't really see a combination of fast motion and high detail, the difference between 1080i and 1080p inputs should be really, really, subtle, but 1080p is technically better, since the deinterlace step can be skipped.

I'd be more wary of multiple conversions. For example, if the PC deinterlaces and scales video, then re-interlaces it on the output, then the 006 re-deinterlaces and/or scales it, you're more likely to get a blurry picture and/or interlacing artifacts than with a single processing step. It will probably only be a serious problem if one of the processing steps is poor quality, though.



Both HTPC's and scalers can output 1080p video over a 1080i interface without any lose of quality.
The conversion of progressive frames at 30frames per second to interlaced fields at 60 fields per second and back to progressive frames at 30fps is a loss less process.

HTPC's should have there desktop resolution set to 1920x1080i 60Hz in display drivers which is the same as 1920x1080p 30Hz (Note that Powerstrip calls this mode 1920x1080 30Hz)
No lines are discarded in this mode and the Qualia will deinterlace (weave) the fields back together to form perfect 30fps progressive output.

I posted about this issue some time back in the "bandwagon" thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4964427#post4964427

Regards,

Owen

Sparkysj; Do you have your TV against the wall? The manual states the TV should be at least 4 inches away from the wall to allow for cooling. Colortv, I spent time with the light last night moving it to different locations. I tried like the previous poster had and put it on the slanted back. To me it was to harsh for my room (low ceilings). I then tried against the very back *where it is straight up and down) and found if low on that part of the TV, the light was pleasing for the room.

Originally posted by colortv
Thanks. I'll try it. My Sony mini-DV videocamera takes stills (bad ones) onto a memory stick. I'll snap a photo with it, then copy some other pics from my computer hard drive to the stick and try it in the Qualia.


ColorTV- Thanks!! I'll take your advice. There might need to be one additional step - I think I have to first format the memory stick when I insert it in the camera but I'm not sure. When I try to take the first picture I'm sure I'll find out.

Regarding the bias light, did you purchase the one on the cinemaquest web site? I was the one who posted that picture. Your description of what you want to do matches what I have done. It works perfectly. Since the bulb is separated from the back of the set by the bulb fixture, it shouldn't warm the back of the set. You can try it yourself. Just turn on the bulb. Come back a few minutes later and feel the bottom of the fixture. It should be cool to the touch. Let us know if that is what you find.

Did you purchase the X-10 RF remote? It is only $20 and is on the cinemaquest web site. It will allow you to turn on and off the light without having to go behind the set. Well worth the money. Anyone with any sort of light fixture behind the set should consider it, since it works with any light. All you do is plug your light fixture's cord into a small RF receiver and then insert that RF receiver into a wall outlet. You control that RF receiver with a small On/Off RF remote (about the size of a quarter).
Here is the link: http://www.cinemaquestinc.com/uniqueitems.htm

How do you guys think the light would look mounted on the wall behind the
006? Thats were I am planning to mount it or should the light be facing the wall.

Walter

Tankful - If you are planning on mounting it above the top of the 006, it probably won't be very nice to look it, since you'll see a bare bulb. Probably better to mount it behind the back of the 006 on the wall, or attach it to the back of the 006 as I have done using Velcro, so you can't actually see it when viewing the set. See my post above about the RF remote.

The idea is to provide lighting behind the set instead of in the front, so as to avoid reflections on the screen at night. The lighting will allow you to walk around the room but won't be enough to read etc.

Regarding the bias light, I've been using two with my 60" GWIII.

The reason being is that one was not enought to provide an even glow around the set. I have one at about stand level and the other raised a couple of feet higher.

I'll shoot some jpegs tonight to show what I'm talking about.

I've not first hand seen a 006, but I would think that due to the brightness of the display and that its 70", you are going to need at least two lights.

I find one bias light adequate for the 006, but, of course, YMMV depending on room size etc.

Originally posted by colortv
I'm going to mount my Ideal Lume bias light tonight. I recall pics a bunch of pages back that showed a light one of you guys strapped to the back of the TV. The plastic lamp fixture is so featherweight I think it should stay put with the industrial strength Velcro from Home Depot. The light doesn't seem to get very warm so hopefully it won't warp the plastic cabinet and the mirror on the inside over time. Any thoughts before I do the deed?

Keep in mind that the warmth may keep the velco adhesive from sticking
as tight as it might. Use plenty.

Dilbert

Originally posted by Owen
Both HTPC's and scalers can output 1080p video over a 1080i interface without any lose of quality.
The conversion of progressive frames at 30frames per second to interlaced fields at 60 fields per second and back to progressive frames at 30fps is a loss less process.

HTPC's should have there desktop resolution set to 1920x1080i 60Hz in display drivers which is the same as 1920x1080p 30Hz (Note that Powerstrip calls this mode 1920x1080 30Hz)
No lines are discarded in this mode and the Qualia will deinterlace (weave) the fields back together to form perfect 30fps progressive output.

I posted about this issue some time back in the "bandwagon" thread.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=4964427#post4964427

Regards,

Owen
I guess that I wasn't totally clear. At 1080 res and 60fps, the PC will alternate between even and odd fields. When output at 1080i, it alternately discards the odd and even fields, respectively. So, it's not lossless. You can't have 1080 res and 60fps simultaniously. A deinterlacer has to sacrafice resolution or FPS, or just display interlaced. Ideally, it can automatically switch between resolution and frame-rate, depending on the contents of the signal. When outputing a 30fps signal at 1080i, it can be lossless. Interlacing is a form of compression. It transmits what looks like 1080 resolution at 60fps, using half the bandwidth of 1080p. It's not lossless compression, though, for 60fps signals.

ColorTV -

I did what you suggested and it works!

JB007 - maybe add the following in the first post?

How To Use the 006 Photo View Feature if you Don't Own a Sony Camera:

There is a way to view jpegs on the 006 without purchasing a Sony camera. You do need to purchase a Sony memory stick or memory stick pro and place it in a Sony camera (the stick doesn't need to be formatted) and take a couple "test" pictures. You can do this at a Best Buy/Circuit City type store. They don't mind letting you test a camera with your memory stick. That establishes the file structure on the memory stick and then all you need to do is copy your jpegs from your hard drive into the folder where those test pictures are stored, insert the memory stick at the bottom of the screen, and away you go. If your computer does not "accept" the Sony memory stick, you will also need to purchase a digital card reader/writer. San Disk makes a 12 in 1 reader/writer for about $30. It's a very nice feature of the 006 and should not be ignored by those with digital cameras. You can even do slide shows with music. Very impressive. There is no need to resize your prints if you don't want.

Originally posted by colortv
The light doesn't seem to get very warm so hopefully it won't warp the plastic cabinet and the mirror on the inside over time.
Where exactly is the mirrow?
One surface, several surfaces ?

Originally posted by kaduku
Here's the finish product. I am extremely happy.

Looks great. That is what I had in mind. Exactly what length and width
of material did you order? I will do the same - I just hope it comes out as
good. Did the lady come over or did you just give her the dimensions (length x width x depth)?

Dilbert1

Originally posted by jb007
Oh yeah, and this may be cheap, but one more post and I'll be bowling a perfect game :D

Congrats on the milestone!

:)

Originally posted by jm_etue
yea, and Oscar® and me sittin here at a cool 100.......:D

- as a prospective Qualia owner posting on the Qualia 006 Owner's Thread which was conceived by jb007 (not DW!) to provide help and guidance to all current and prospective Qualia 006 owners.......
You know that you guys are killin me!

Okay, D.W., yes, the movers should be able to negotiate your staircase and get ANOTHER 006 up to your master bedroom.

Originally posted by Dilbert1
Looks great. That is what I had in mind. Exactly what length and width
of material did you order? I will do the same - I just hope it comes out as
good. Did the lady come over or did you just give her the dimensions (length x width x depth)?

Dilbert1
Dilbert,
I don't mean to step on kuduku's toes but, if you need an answer soon to get an order in......
I believe he ordered 3 yards of material (length)
Width isn't a problem as it comes as a standard some 59" ?? or so on their rolls.
You only have to tell them the length that you need.

Originally posted by jm_etue

No, but really......thanks for years of late night lurking and tech reading and the occasional advice when a dollar or two is diverted to this hobby. This is one of the clearest threads on AVS forum; the rest of the forum should take a page from you guys. I'm sure no Qualia problem will go unsolved or question go unanswered...... Have fun and enjoy your toys...:D :D :D

It IS nice and refreshing because alot of the owner's threads read like "Reasons you should not buy this particular product."

I guess the giddiness over the satisfaction of our purchase is just infectious here.:)

Originally posted by Dilbert1
Looks great. That is what I had in mind. Exactly what length and width
of material did you order? I will do the same - I just hope it comes out as
good. Did the lady come over or did you just give her the dimensions (length x width x depth)?


Thanks Penton-Man, no problem on stepping on my toes.

Dilbert1,
I did order 3 yards and I have to call that lady back and get my leftover cloth. I could use it for screen cleaning. The lady never saw the 006, and I'm not sure if she even had any idea what it was for. All I gave her was the exact length and width from speaker to speaker corners. If you look at the corner picture again, the line at the corner is exactly 3 inches long. This is the line that goes inward. I did this on all four corners. My only concern was that the bottom of the front (where it meets the foot of the base), is flat underneath with nothing for the elastic to hook on unlike the sides and top. Plus it's only about a inch or two. I was afraid it would look loose, but as you can see the elastic keeps it in place and flush. The middle of the bottom is a little wider than the sides due to the curving, which I guess helped. Also it is unbelievably easy to put it on and off. Next step is to ship it back to Radtech for the Sony logo to be blazened on it to give it that custom look (I know it sounds ridiculous, but I've been known to be that kind of a person). Remember I used 3/8 inch elastic band.

Originally posted by Penton-Man
Dilbert,
I don't mean to step on kuduku's toes but, if you need an answer soon to get an order in......
I believe he ordered 3 yards of material (length)
Width isn't a problem as it comes as a standard some 59" ?? or so on their rolls.
You only have to tell them the length that you need.

This is why this forum and particularly this thread is so great, because of people eager to help out one another. Kudos to everyone!!! :D

Originally posted by Zechman
Now colortv is really Rush Limbaugh??? ;)


Not quite .. polar opposite! :)

Originally posted by nhey
ColorTV- Thanks!! I'll take your advice. There might need to be one additional step - I think I have to first format the memory stick when I insert it in the camera but I'm not sure. When I try to take the first picture I'm sure I'll find out.

Regarding the bias light, did you purchase the one on the cinemaquest web site? I was the one who posted that picture. Your description of what you want to do matches what I have done. It works perfectly. Since the bulb is separated from the back of the set by the bulb fixture, it shouldn't warm the back of the set. You can try it yourself. Just turn on the bulb. Come back a few minutes later and feel the bottom of the fixture. It should be cool to the touch. Let us know if that is what you find.

Did you purchase the X-10 RF remote? It is only $20 and is on the cinemaquest web site. It will allow you to turn on and off the light without having to go behind the set. Well worth the money. Anyone with any sort of light fixture behind the set should consider it, since it works with any light. All you do is plug your light fixture's cord into a small RF receiver and then insert that RF receiver into a wall outlet. You control that RF receiver with a small On/Off RF remote (about the size of a quarter).
Here is the link: http://www.cinemaquestinc.com/uniqueitems.htm

Here's my installation of the Ideal Lume bias light ... subject to change. I'm waiting on another Toslink cable and I need to install the quake strap between the stand and the TV. Then I'll push the stand back to 4" clearance as Sony recommends. I may adjust the position of the light. I bought the ND filter kit with the light, and glad I did. I found the stock light to be too bright for my taste so I knocked the output way down. I'll play with it to suit my taste once the TV is in the final position.

Thanks for the heads-up on the remote. Like I need another one on my coffee table! We need to get Harmony to play with the bias light.

Originally posted by nhey
ColorTV -

I did what you suggested and it works!

JB007 - maybe add the following in the first post?

How To Use the 006 Photo View Feature if you Don't Own a Sony Camera:

There is a way to view jpegs on the 006 without purchasing a Sony camera. You do need to purchase a Sony memory stick or memory stick pro and place it in a Sony camera (the stick doesn't need to be formatted) and take a couple "test" pictures. You can do this at a Best Buy/Circuit City type store. They don't mind letting you test a camera with your memory stick. That establishes the file structure on the memory stick and then all you need to do is copy your jpegs from your hard drive into the folder where those test pictures are stored, insert the memory stick at the bottom of the screen, and away you go. If your computer does not "accept" the Sony memory stick, you will also need to purchase a digital card reader/writer. San Disk makes a 12 in 1 reader/writer for about $30. It's a very nice feature of the 006 and should not be ignored by those with digital cameras. You can even do slide shows with music. Very impressive. There is no need to resize your prints if you don't want.

Some guests stopped by last night and I tried the memory stick trick. It worked as it did for you. The 006 blows everone away of course, but seeing high res stills on it is fantastic and the slide show with piano music is the cat's meow. My friends were shaking their heads in astonishment that Sony took Apple's cue from iPhoto and put it into this TV. Or was that me shaking my head? This TV just keeps amazing me!