Can anyone recommend a vendor that has the lg 4200a currently available? Both Cousins video and Valuelectronics has them backordered. I was hoping to receive the unit ASAP (hopefully in time for the superbowl).

I have one coming from Belmont TV in VA. They had two in stock, in the store, when I called yesterday. They have 3 stores though. Yes they know that the graphic in the picture is not actually the 4200a. They claim that they're an authorized dealer, warranty is good, etc.. $19 shipping, should be here on Fri or Mon.

My wife found a guy who had one that he was selling. Got one, didn't need it, selling it. As of yesterday, he still had it:
http://cgi.videogon.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?sorchdtv&1110829300

Good luck!
Chris

I checked Belmont TV. They are sold out in all 3 stores. Same story as everyone, they expect them in about 10 days. Thanks for the try.

It looks like Korea put a wrong label on the LST-4200A's and LG USA did not want to ship them with a label that asked everyone to call LG before setting up the recorder for the first time. Of course, the label belonged on the LST-3410A. From what I can tell, my LST-4200A's should ship from LG's TX distribution warehouse by this Friday.

Anyway, I can get refurbished LST-3510A's. Built-in up-converting DVD, no analog NTSC tuner, but other wise the same set top box.

-Robert

Robert,
Is the 3510a using a 4th generation tuner. I was led to beleive the 4200a has a 4th generation tuner and the 3510a has a 3rd or older generation tuner. I am interested in buying a 4200a.
Thanks
bernie

LST-3100A, LST-3410A, LST-3510A, LSS-3200A, and LST-4200A all use 4th gen ATSC tuner.

Robert

Update: I finally found a 4200a in store stock 65 miles from my house. I made the road trip last night to ElectronicExpress in Clarkseville TN to pick it up. I arrived home just in time to make the connections, plug it up, and enjoy ER in High Def. I'm not really that crazy about the show, I just couldn't get enough of the fantistic picture. The 130 mile round trip was worth it.

I was aware Electronic Express has these. They would not ship the item to me. They required I pick it up in the store. Too far away from me.
Bernie

Does anyone know who currently has the 4200a in stock? I checked with Value Electronics last week and the CSR told me it would be a week to 10 days before additional shipments were received. I take it the national electronic stores dont stock this product. I saw the LG 3510a at CC about a week ago.

I know Brandsmart carries the LG 4200a. I got mine last week and it was well below MSRP.

Thanks for the tip mca_95. Don"t have a Brandsmart here in Birmingham. Found their web site but it doesn't appear they're in the mail order business. May have to give them a call and ask. Did they have a fairly good supply of these units from what you remember?

I did not know my LST-3100A had the same chipset as the 4200A. Other than the NTSC tuner, is there any benefit to the 4200A over its predecessor?

They had 5 boxes when I picked mine up last week. Is the 4200A really $349 MSRP? If so, I got it for over 40% off MSRP.

What is the difference between the 3510A and 4200A? Sorry for the newbie question.

Originally posted by Prelude2244
What is the difference between the 3510A and 4200A? Sorry for the newbie question.

Go to the LG website for specs on both. In a nutshell, the 3510a is a combo with an upscaling DVD player, single ATSC tuner and single QAM (clear) tuner. The 4200 has no DVD but does have two tuners I think (NTSC & ATSC) someone correct me if I'm wrong. LG doesn't list the 4200 specs on its website (www.lge.com)

Eric

The LST-4200A should be listed on the US website (http://www.lgusa.com/). The listed MSRP is still current. These boxes are shipping now, so they should be easier to find. I think LG is planning to discontinue them soon with no replacement, which I think is a mistake.

Robert

Originally posted by BigE43
The 4200 has no DVD but does have two tuners I think (NTSC & ATSC) someone correct me if I'm wrong.

The 4200A has only one RF input. However, it can tune in unencrypted QAM as well as NTSC and ATSC, per its instruction manual. Others on this forum have said that with the 4200A they can tune in both over-the-air ATSC digital and cable QAM digital by putting an A/B switch on the RF input and switching between their cable and antenna. The 4200, they said, will continue to remember channels on one medium while tuning from the other medium.
-H.

The 3510 can receive ATSC, NTSC and QAM also, right? But I heard a rumor that LG disabled the QAM on newer models. Not sure how true this is.

The 3510a only decodes ATSC and QAM, not NTSC. It is a digital only tuner, not analog.

Does anyone have a source in their area that still has a 4200a in stock?

Good luck but I dont think that is gonna happen. Hell, I am about to offer my first born for one; well, at least a laptop anyways, so, if there is one out there let me know at timnmb2@hotmail.com and I will reward you.

Good luck but I dont think that is gonna happen. Hell, I am about to offer my first born for one; well, at least a laptop anyways, so, if there is one out there let me know at timnmb2@hotmail.com and I will reward you.

There was a dude with a 99.4% feedback rating who was selling refurbished ones on eBay last week - you might want to drop him a line, and make him an offer for any he has left? I can't post the URL (too big) or even use Tiny URL for some reason (turns it in to ****) but search for LG 4200A under previous sales.


Hopefully you'll find one - I love mine now though not at first ;-)

Peter

Thanks for the help, I will definatly check it out.

Trying to get these things is straight up ridiculous. People on ebay are bidding beyond the original street prices (and close to MSRP) for this thing because they are so limited in quantities, even in refurbished form. I guess I will just have to wait until a new all-in-one STB comes out or wait until a 4200a is put on ebay after everyone else buys theirs.

Any particular reason to try to get the 4200A vs the still available 3510A?

Ed

4200A has an NTSC tuner so cable is better (you can surf analog then digital seemlessly) and the 4200a has the ability to delete sub-channels. I'm not sure, but I think the 4200a has a generation higher tuner than the 3510a.

4200A has an NTSC tuner so cable is better (you can surf analog then digital seemlessly) and the 4200a has the ability to delete sub-channels. I'm not sure, but I think the 4200a has a generation higher tuner than the 3510a.Not, however, the much-anticipated "fifth generation".

Gee, I guess I got really lucky when I was able to purchase my LG LST-4200A last spring from B&H brand new.

It's a teriffic STB for receiving both digital and analog TV.

OK, I finally found one new for LESS than the Ebay refurbished ones. My tip to anyone looking for one of these is to call LG customer service and have them get you in touch with your nearest LG regional representative. The rep was able to put me in contact with a retailer that still had some. This will require some legwork on your part, two days of phone calls for me, but it is worth it in the end if you want one.

The people at LG were very helpful and more than willing to work with me to locate a unit. The rep also told me that there were no plans for a 4200a replacement. Get 'em while you can!!

WOW, way to go. I checked LG's site and only found their main support number 1-800-243-0000. Do you still have the customer service number handy?

Thanks,
Ben

I used the main line on the website and the person who answered the call gave me the number for the corporate office which gave me the number to the regional LG representative. The LG representative put me in contact with a store in California that still had a demo unit available (probably their last 4200a).

There has got to be another vendor that they can get you in contact with to buy one of these STB's. I was on the phone for about a dozen times to get the deal done but it was worth it.

Now my only problem is getting a good antenna to recieve a signal on the local stations.

wow! hard to find eh ?

I love mine. I bought it when it was first released and was the best box out there after trying every one on the market. it picks up anything unencrypted. I wouldnt sell mine unless i got 3 times what its worth. thats how much I like this box. its very nice and puts out a better picture than the comcast box.

I currently have a LG LST-4200a on ebay for sale. It is tough to find and going for about $400 new. I will ship to anywhere. Check it out, the auction is over soon.

Ebay ID thebestcans

Came across this site the other day:
http://www.prosecuritys.com/lst-4200a.html

LST-3510A - I can "intermittantly" get the DVD player / Display format settings to output 1080i via the YPBPR output

I had not seen any absolute resolution to this issue and it was indicated that "older" units could play in this mode.

Symptoms - when powered on with no DVD in the drive I can select ybpr/1080i and get proper sync/picture, when a DVD starts to play it diplays properly but then "switches" after about 5 seconds. Once in a while I can get the unit to stay in the 1080i mode and play an entire DVD ! Results in getting to this mode are very sporadic.

Is there any settings or documenation on how to use the RS232 port on this unit? Would it help? So far I have not seen anyone mention using this port. What is it for?

The LST-3510A can play non-copy-protected DVDs in HD upconvert mode on the component output, but will not upconvertfor copy-protected DVDs which most commercial ones are. Thats normal operation for HD upconverting DVD players. A few models with early firmware didn't have that setup right but that was very early one, the majority have the regular firmware which disables upconvert on the component video output for copy-protected DVDs.
Never saw any docs on the RS232 port, probably just for a service technician use.

I am able to consistently get 1080i upconversion from my 3510 over component with copy protected DVDs by doing the following:
1. disconnect power with DVD in the drawer ( I plug the 3510 into my reciever's switched power output because of a bug with the 3510's dicreet off code )
2. reconnect power
3. turn on
4. press play

I noticed yesterday that I cannot change resolutions while in this state. I must go back to tuner mode to get it to not upconvert.

Darrell

I thought this was a 4200a thread.

I believe there's at least one separate, dedicated thread for the 3510a around here.

Being that the 4200a's such a great tuner, I was greatly interested when I saw that this thread was active again, and I clicked onto it only to find myself reading about the 3510a.

Not cool.

Hi Ramm. me too. fwiw, I just picked up a 4200 off the bay - one thing that I think has been overlooked (or at least I have not seen it mentioned a lot) is the absolutely amazing SD picture the LG pulls in. My main ht consists of a Runco 980 front projector - great for making a 10' wide display, but no onboard tuner. I started using just the tuners in vcrs; upgraded to using the tuner section of an RCA dvd-recorder. (progressive out.) Then picked up a Sammy 360, which I thought was pretty good until I connected the LG. Holy simulated HD. At this moment I'm feeding ESPN2 sd, at native resolution(which is also a great option, not available on the Sammys) to the DI card of my VP30, and then to the screen. The result - virtually hd. By far the best sd picture I have seen.

Now if only the QAM section was working more reliably. I'm currently having problems with it maintaining a signal - signal strength will be good, then will drop to "no signal" and then come back. Still trying to decide if it is a cable issue or a stb issue. Has anyone else had this problem? fwiw, the ASTC section of the LG locks and holds all ota stations wonderfully, with the onboard dacs producing a superb picture.

Afraid we are all stuck buying used ones, but they look so good - if you are in the minority of folks who a) need an external tuner, and b) are too cheap to spring for the cable co's digital box or a satelite feed, then the LG-4200 is still in a class by itself.

Now if only the QAM section was working more reliably. I'm currently having problems with it maintaining a signal - signal strength will be good, then will drop to "no signal" and then come back. Still trying to decide if it is a cable issue or a stb issue. Has anyone else had this problem? fwiw, the ASTC section of the LG locks and holds all ota stations wonderfully, with the onboard dacs producing a superb picture.

I use a Radio Shack manual A/B switch and toggle between OTA and cable quite often (mostly for fun).

I see frequent problems with intermittent "no signal" OTA because of multipath. But I've never seen that problem with QAM. In fact, the "no signal" OTA was precisely why I got the $10/mo cable from Comcast.

I use a Radio Shack manual A/B switch and toggle between OTA and cable quite often (mostly for fun).

I see frequent problems with intermittent "no signal" OTA because of multipath. But I've never seen that problem with QAM. In fact, the "no signal" OTA was precisely why I got the $10/mo cable from Comcast. 10 bucks is gettin' off pretty cheap for limited basic these days. You're lucky.

On the subject of the RS A/B switch, they also sell one that can be changed via remote, so that us lazy-asses don't have to constantly get up to change it. It's not nearly as cheap as the basic one, but it's an option.

I've seen lots of LG LST-3100A listing on Ebay currently. From the photos this model looks exactly like the precious 4200A model, but the 3100A's are selling for a lot less.

Anyone knows the differences between these two models?

Basically, the 3100a lacks an NTSC tuner. Most other features are the same.

Also, the LST-3100 was the 3rd generation of the tuner chip, while the LST-4200A is the 4th.

But there are alot of features that the 4200A boasts, that the 3100 does not:

1. No NTSC tuner.
2. Channel map in 4200A is far superior to the previous models. You never have to re-scan when switching from cable to antenna, or vice/versa. Plus, in the channel map of the 4200A, you can delete certain subchannels while leaving others. On the 3100A and others, you have to delete the whole channel, no exceptions.

I have the 4200A connected to both my analog cable(Clear QAM) and an indoor antenna using an Radio Shack A/B Selector with remote(lazy ass. But some will be turned off by the $34.99 price tag for this gizmo.)

It is connected to my HDTV using component. I tried DVI(the one that came with the unit), and while HDTV looked AWESOME, the SD channels and the analog channels looked HORRIBLE with this connection. Component gave me the best of both worlds.

I never had problems with Clear QAM dropping out other than one channel which does it occasionally. It is the CABLE COMPANIES problem, and not the unit, as all the other HD/digital Clear QAM channels do not suffer from this.

My OTA is pretty good considering I am using a crappy indoor amplified antenna. I can get channels that are close to 50 miles away from me with this set-up, but an outdoor antenna would GREATLY improve my reception.

This unit(the LG LST-4200A) is still the best money I have invested in my HT set-up, without question.

I bought a 4200A when I had VOOM before it went out a year ago. As it turns out the VOOM receiver works great for HD. I have since ditched both cable and satellite for OTA and my stations are either digital or HD. I started out using the 4200A as my primary receiver and the VOOM on my fpj. The 4200A has an annoying audio pop that happens every once and awhile, so I moved it to the second spot with my fpj and surround sound which I don't use all the time. That annoying pop that the 4200A would make on my tv is a loud BANG in surround sound. I'm glad I have the VOOM receiver and I'll keep the 4200A as back up.

My Radio Shack Accurian does that too, everytime I turn it on or off. Don't know why, but I just turn it on first, then change the input that I use for it. It occasionally does what you say when it goes to a commercial. Someone said that it had something to do with the station going over to a local commercial. I never really paid that much attention whether the commercial was local or not, as I don't really use that tuner very often anyway.

The 4200A has an annoying audio pop that happens every once and awhile, so I moved it to the second spot with my fpj and surround sound which I don't use all the time. That annoying pop that the 4200A would make on my tv is a loud BANG in surround sound. I'm glad I have the VOOM receiver and I'll keep the 4200A as back up.

Mind did this as well. I was in contact with the engineers at the station who's channel made the pop. It is the only channel that did this, and they had one in house that did the same thing. They claim that they are within all the regulations of the ATSC, and that there is some incompatablity within the 4200a. Because of this, I stopped using it. Not only would it pop, but there were times when it would pop and instead of returning to the regular audio, it would come back as a really loud pink noise. Not cool.

Mind did this as well. I was in contact with the engineers at the station who's channel made the pop. It is the only channel that did this, and they had one in house that did the same thing. They claim that they are within all the regulations of the ATSC, and that there is some incompatablity within the 4200a. Because of this, I stopped using it. Not only would it pop, but there were times when it would pop and instead of returning to the regular audio, it would come back as a really loud pink noise. Not cool.

I think that my 4200A pops on more than one channel. I first noticed it when the pops were recorded on an episode of Lost. The pops are random and annoying and that is why I moved the 4200A to backup status.

Just bought a 4200A for $352.00. Worth every penny. Now I have 3 3410A's and a superb tuner. I can and do record the networks every night. For sure these are the finest tuners ever produced.

Just bought a 4200A for $352.00. Worth every penny. Now I have 3 3410A's and a superb tuner. I can and do record the networks every night. For sure these are the finest tuners ever produced.

I don't think that my 4200A is any better than my Voom receiver that I got for nothing. It does not pull in channels any better and as of 1 minute ago mine is still giving loud audio pops.

-then do us all a favor, sell the 4200, and buy 4 more Vooms ;) - mine produces a much better picture than my Sammy 360; plus it does nstc and qam at the same time; plus it has the option of NATIVE rate for output. Those three things make mine indispensable - I'm looking for a second, just so I'll have a spare.

-then do us all a favor, sell the 4200, and buy 4 more Vooms ;) - mine produces a much better picture than my Sammy 360; plus it does nstc and qam at the same time; plus it has the option of NATIVE rate for output. Those three things make mine indispensable - I'm looking for a second, just so I'll have a spare.

My experience is thatit's no better or worse than my Voom receiver. It does not pull in my only distant channel (60 miles) any better than my Voom. All I need are 2 recievers and I have them, so I'll keep them. I have no doubt that my next hdtv will have a tuner in it. I am getting tired of doing the antenna boo-ga-loo with its undependable picture and so I may go back to cable, so maybe the 4200A will serve me better than. Since my Voom receiver cost me nothing, I figure that reduced the price of the 4200A by half.

I do have to add that my 4200A does have a recurring and loud audio pop. I used to have it connected to my front projector and surround sound system and the pop on that was very loud and irritating.

Yes, please sell yours. Mine does not pop but it does have a problem with low signal QAM 256. I'm not sure why. The 3410A tuners, which have the same tuner section, do not have that problem. The picture and audio just go away for no reason when watching a QAM 256 channel. The 3410A tuners sometimes jump from one subchannel to another if there are too many sub-channels. I switched to my antenna andd the signal is better as is the picture from the originating station rather than the compressed feed from the cable. I like this tuner.

I did run into an issue when I tried connecting it through the VGA connector to an Infocus X1. It just would not play regardless of the resolution. Here I am using the DVI connection feeding an OPTOMA VXD300 scaler that is the front end of my Optoma HD81.

Art - that is interesting. I was having the same problem with my 4200 - to the point that I almost had it connected to an antenna - would have, but I also need it for nstc cable. I just figured I had a defective one - since I got mine CHEAP off the 'bay, from a furniture store, I just figured mine was funky. Especially since with the same cable and connections my LG 3510 is rock solid. Odd about the VGA output - I've had no problems there, except when trying to feed my VP50's RBGHV inputs with 480i - and that was only a problem because the VP won't accept 480i at that input. Duh. But I've only ever fed a scaler with it, so haven't been in your situation.

On the off chance that something got bumped in shipping, I took the cover off, went thru and checked, reseated everything. Since then, I only get rare dropouts.

fwiw, if you are having enough trouble with yours to warrant it, LG charges a flat 79 bucks to refurb them - I was seriously tempted - that's what prompted me to "fix" mine. Figured even if I broke something, it was fixable, and for what I originally paid, it was still a bargain.

elocs - I've heard of others with the pop also - are you running native, or a fixed output? Luckily the only problem I've had is the dropout thing - that also may be a heat problem. Mine gets pretty hot - I pulled it out of the rack, put it on top of my rack, and then added one of the cute little hd cooling fans over the heatsinks. Didn't hurt, seemed to help. But I'll agree - if all you want is HD, the 4200 is overkill. It is supposed to excell at multipath rejection, but if you're in the boonies like me, you just want raw power to suck in distant signals. If you're having antenna problems, (and aren't using one already) you might want to snag a CM 4228. Increased my signal strenght quite a bit - tho if your stations are in different directions, it is also quite directional - might need a rotor.

Art - that is interesting. I was having the same problem with my 4200 - to the point that I almost had it connected to an antenna - would have, but I also need it for nstc cable. I just figured I had a defective one - since I got mine CHEAP off the 'bay, from a furniture store, I just figured mine was funky. Especially since with the same cable and connections my LG 3510 is rock solid. Odd about the VGA output - I've had no problems there, except when trying to feed my VP50's RBGHV inputs with 480i - and that was only a problem because the VP won't accept 480i at that input. Duh. But I've only ever fed a scaler with it, so haven't been in your situation.

On the off chance that something got bumped in shipping, I took the cover off, went thru and checked, reseated everything. Since then, I only get rare dropouts.

fwiw, if you are having enough trouble with yours to warrant it, LG charges a flat 79 bucks to refurb them - I was seriously tempted - that's what prompted me to "fix" mine. Figured even if I broke something, it was fixable, and for what I originally paid, it was still a bargain.

elocs - I've heard of others with the pop also - are you running native, or a fixed output? Luckily the only problem I've had is the dropout thing - that also may be a heat problem. Mine gets pretty hot - I pulled it out of the rack, put it on top of my rack, and then added one of the cute little hd cooling fans over the heatsinks. Didn't hurt, seemed to help. But I'll agree - if all you want is HD, the 4200 is overkill. It is supposed to excell at multipath rejection, but if you're in the boonies like me, you just want raw power to suck in distant signals. If you're having antenna problems, (and aren't using one already) you might want to snag a CM 4228. Increased my signal strenght quite a bit - tho if your stations are in different directions, it is also quite directional - might need a rotor.

My 4200A sit out in the open and is only mildly warm. I already use a 4228 to get my NBC affiliate which is 60 miles away and in the opposite direction from my other channels. Everything else I can pick up with the SquareShooter which Voom gave me. Voom was sure great while it lasted with all of the HD channels and the local HDs on its receiver.

Well, what can I say - can't do much better than that. Yes, I agree - Voom was pretty cool - just a bit ahead of their time (IMHO) - maybe if we're really lucky, something similar will come back in a few years. Once HD sets get a bit more market presence, and their proud new owners finally realize that they aren't getting HD on their HD sets, we may see something like Voom again. (where's the smiley face for "I hope?")

Hey, I just got the 4200a connected to my IN72 projector. The picture is great! However the picture is shrunk to about 2/3 of what it should be, I have it on DVI out and 480p. I am having trouble changing the resolution, when I hit the display button it lets me change the output between component, rgb, and dvi, then I select DVI and then it shows 480p and I originally could change that setting but now it won't let me. any ideas what I am doing wrong here? thanks

This is not working?


Press Display
Press right/left arrows to select input
Press Select
Press right/left arrows to select resolution
Press Select

My 4200A continues to work properly. I even get a grid showing what is on TV. I use the HDMI out for video and the optical for sound. I have an alternate connection using S video and line level L&R audio. The line level audio does not work. I can live with that but it annoys me.

Hey, I just got the 4200a connected to my IN72 projector. The picture is great! However the picture is shrunk to about 2/3 of what it should be, I have it on DVI out and 480p. I am having trouble changing the resolution, when I hit the display button it lets me change the output between component, rgb, and dvi, then I select DVI and then it shows 480p and I originally could change that setting but now it won't let me. any ideas what I am doing wrong here? thanks


Well, I know on DVI, 480p is the LOWEST resolution allowed.

DVI sends 480p/720p HD/1080i HD and that is it. No 480i.

But anyway, you SHOULD be allowed to select what type of output resolution you want.

1. EVERYTHING 480p
2. EVERYTHING 1080i
3. EVERYTHING 720p

Or a combination which is best for your current set-up. Called VARIABLE resolutions. In 1,2,3 forms.

The variable resolutions are described in the manual, and I would set them to whatever the native resolutions are on your set-up.

Yes, please sell yours. Mine does not pop but it does have a problem with low signal QAM 256. I'm not sure why. The 3410A tuners, which have the same tuner section, do not have that problem. The picture and audio just go away for no reason when watching a QAM 256 channel. The 3410A tuners sometimes jump from one subchannel to another if there are too many sub-channels. I switched to my antenna andd the signal is better as is the picture from the originating station rather than the compressed feed from the cable. I like this tuner.


Art,

I wonder if this is the problem with my 4200A now.

Here is what I have written in my local thread, and STILL I am no longer receiving ANY TYPE of QAM signal to my 4200A:

Anyone here lose there digital signal completely from Time Warner tonight between 8:00pm-8:25pm?

I have analog cable, but an LG LST-4200A which gets me my local channels in the CLEAR QAM area from them.

Everything was fine, until around 8:25pm after doing a channel scan.

All of a sudden I wasn't receiving any type of digital signal at all.

It was not like they were suddenly SCRAMBLED or anything, it was like the digital signal was there(you can easily see it's strength on the signal reader), and then POOF!! there was nothing.

This was after running an EZADD or EZSCAN on my LG.

It was like Time Warner decided to TURN OFF the digital signal to my area all of a sudden.

This is over in Sharon, PA by the way.

I am hoping they are just screwing around to get things up and running smoothly to maybe change the channel lineup for are area(Sharon/West Middlesex/New Wilmington, PA) or something else.

I would be majorly bummed if they decided to turn off the signal to my area altogether for some stupid reason. I would lose all my CLEAR QAM channels from them.



I did an EZAdd on my LG LST-4200A(which I do periodically) on that fateful Monday night, and got all the channels you listed above.

Then about 10-15 minutes later, I decided to do a EZScan(which basically wipes out my CATV and CADTV lineups completely, and starts from scratch), and while doing that the CADTV(digital signal) COMPLETELY DISAPEARED from coming into my house.

I first thought maybe my LG busted(like the QAM tuner just went Kaput! I still have not ruled that out, which would SUCK!! ), but both the analog cable channels(NTSC), and my OTA/ATSC channels all came in fine.

But on my signal bar for the CADTV signal now reads ZERO, and has since that fateful night 3 1/2 weeks ago. I even did a RESET of the LG LST-4200A through the service menu. Everything checked out fine, but still no digital signal period.

I am even went as far as to have a service call made to Time Warner. They never came to the house, but called. I explained to the technician(I am guessing he was) what the issues were(I was having other problems with OVER AMP'D sound on certain channels, and others out of Pittsburgh on the analog lineup, looking like total crap).

I also explained my situation with the NON EXISTENT digital cable signal in the house now. I explained I was not a digital customer, but had a QAM tuner to receive the locals in the CLEAR that my previous cable company(Adelphia) sent that way.

I went to explain to him that there was no signal there in the house at all now. He said that they switched from 64 QAM to 256 QAM, but I don't think that would have any effect on that particular tuner though.


I told him even if he brought out an addressable box(which may be my next move) from them, that nothing on the digital side would work because there now appears to be no signal at all coming from the telephone poles or wherever it comes from.

I left it at the fact I was hoping they would check the signal in my area(Pulaski), and just make sure everything near me was up to snuff. But I may be forced to breathe down there necks again to get this resolved.

Still no digital signal coming into the house during my last check(Last night 11/28/06).

Ever since the switch Time Warner has managed to mess up my cable completely, and are beginning to force me to look at one of the Dishes for service if this crap keeps up.

Way to go.

Hopefully, but I doubt it, that the new Verison FIOS service will be available up here by Jan. 2008 as another option.

But I think we may be too far north of Pittsburgh for that. New Castle, PA may be the extent of it, and this area(New Wilmington/Pulaski/West Middlesex/Sharon/Hermitage, PA) may be considered to rural for that type of expansion just yet.

Probably further down the road for people up in this region.

I am THOROUGHLY DISSAPPOINTED with Time Warner thus far. No Doubt.

Forcing me to go to Dish/D*, and it is there own damn fault.


I wonder if this is what happened?(what you explained.)

It still does not make sense that I would have NO QAM SIGNAL at all though.

Maybe I should try and get a used Samsung T-451 locally(that I can return easily) and see if that can get the local QAM.

I am at wits end with TWC. They completely SUCK IMHO!!

Dear Santa,

Please get LG Electronics to make one more production run of the LG LST-4200A.

I can get by without the two front teeth.

Your friend,
Kenny

:)

Steelersrule,

I would connect another digital tuner to the cable to verify the presence or lack thereof of digital channels. My Sony KDL32-XBR950 will not bring in any QAM256 channels at all because the tuner only receives QAM64. I believe your problem and mine are due to the fact that the signal strength registered by the 4200 never goes above half way when using the ATSC tuner to watch digital stations. It just will not lock. I have not tried yet but you might try sticking an amp at the input to boost the signal 8-20dB.

Well, I know on DVI, 480p is the LOWEST resolution allowed.

DVI sends 480p/720p HD/1080i HD and that is it. No 480i.

But anyway, you SHOULD be allowed to select what type of output resolution you want.

1. EVERYTHING 480p
2. EVERYTHING 1080i
3. EVERYTHING 720p

Or a combination which is best for your current set-up. Called VARIABLE resolutions. In 1,2,3 forms.

The variable resolutions are described in the manual, and I would set them to whatever the native resolutions are on your set-up.


Hey, thanks for the info, as I stated it seems to be stuck on 480p. I hit the display format button, the right left arrows allow me to select which format, I select DVI, then it displays 480p on the display and I can't change it with the arrows or anything. Any ideas? Also, any ideas why the screen shrinks on HD content? On SD TV it fills the screen but on HD it is only 2/3 as big? thanks

Steelersrule,

I would connect another digital tuner to the cable to verify the presence or lack thereof of digital channels. My Sony KDL32-XBR950 will not bring in any QAM256 channels at all because the tuner only receives QAM64. I believe your problem and mine are due to the fact that the signal strength registered by the 4200 never goes above half way when using the ATSC tuner to watch digital stations. It just will not lock. I have not tried yet but you might try sticking an amp at the input to boost the signal 8-20dB.

Actually, I have tried everything, and nothing has worked. Direct connect to the box itself. Connect to an amplifier. Nothing

I really do believe it is on their end that is the problem(unless the one splitter connected to the side of the house is not allowing passthrough).

Since that fateful night, on my QAM side(not the ATSC/OTA side, everything is fine there) I have NO SIGNAL WHATSOEVER.

On that night, the signal just disappeared completely. Nothing at all. No yellow bar on the signal meter.

Everything was fine until TWC took over. I have my unit connected to an A/B selector switch from Radio Shack, and there was no problem with that set-up with Adelphia.

Somebody, or somewhere along the connection line to my house, somethinghas got to be screwed up.

But trying to get those idiots to come out and check the lines is something else.

I may try, like I stated before, a used Samsung T-451 from Circuit City. Someone from my local thread said he used it, and has no problems picking up QAM from them. Unless you count the occasional droputs.

But I still feel there is NO SIGNAL coming into the house at all now(not analog, but digital).

Even if I had on of the techs come out with an addressable box, it still would not work because according to my LG LST-4200A there is NO QAM SIGNAL there at all.

The "NoSiginal" message means that the receiver is not able to lock on a frequency. Eliminate their filter temporarily. I believe that filter is there to knock out any analog channels that you do not pay for. Try their box for a month. While it is in your house check the LG. Simple really.

The "NoSiginal" message means that the receiver is not able to lock on a frequency. Eliminate their filter temporarily. I believe that filter is there to knock out any analog channels that you do not pay for. Try their box for a month. While it is in your house check the LG. Simple really.

Art,

There is no filter from the main connection(I believe) to my house.

There has been no changes at all to my set-up. Meaning that TWC never came out and said we are putting something on the line(meaning the line to my house), or anything else that I am aware of.

My cable comes directly from a box on the ground(not the telephone pole), believe it or not. And runs underground.

When you mentioned that NO SIGNAL means that "maybe" the unit cannot lock on the "NEW" frequency that TWC is sending out for digital cable.

Like I stated, a tech, who I am guessing knows a little, said that he thought that TWC sends out 256 QAM, while Adelphia was using 64QAM, and when they switched, that may be the issue.

I am also wondering if maybe it could be the SPLITTER on the side of my house?

That splitter was put in about 5-6 years ago when the line was struck by lightning, and the previous one was fried.

It is only a two line splitter, one to go directly to a bedroom TV, and the other line to the living room tv.

That living room TVline is split(3-line splitter) down in my basement to go to a family room tv, and another tv in the basement(plus the Living room tv). Not real concerned with digital access on those though, so let's take that out of the equation.

Back to the two-line splitter outside. My area is pretty rural(have Amish neighbors here in NW Pennsylvania :) ), and we actually didn't begin to receive a digital signal through the cable line(this is when it was Adelphia) until about 1-2 years ago.

And with that set-up(i am actually only an analog subscriber. Channels 2-70. No premiums) i received all the local HD via QAM from Adelphia just fine.

Could that splitter(which may only go between 5-900MHz since it is so old, and digital wasn't available) outside the house be the culprit?

I wonder if it was switched for NEWER one(one of the HD ones that range from 3-2300MHz) if that would allow the passthrough of a 256QAM signal?

Maybe 64QAM could easily be PASSED THROUGH on the older splitters that only went up too 900MHz, hence the reason why Adelphia went that route so that they would not have too go out and change everyone's connections(at there own expense meaning gas for the trucks/labor/etc...)

Is my thinking anywhere close to possibly being right?

Thanx again Art for all your help.

And anyone else who may have had a similiar experience, please chime in with opinions.

Withoutgoing back and rereading everything let mesummarize and this wull be my last comment. The 4200A is supposed to receive QAM256. Mine will not with any consistency. Why? Because the signal strength indicator balely goes up half way. I'm not sure why yours won't work but I can tell you that my 4200 that sits nect to 2 3410's that receive perfectly, will not hold a signal. My Sony will not either but that is a QAM 256 issue.

Hey, thanks for the info, as I stated it seems to be stuck on 480p. I hit the display format button, the right left arrows allow me to select which format, I select DVI, then it displays 480p on the display and I can't change it with the arrows or anything. Any ideas? Also, any ideas why the screen shrinks on HD content? On SD TV it fills the screen but on HD it is only 2/3 as big? thanks



any ideas on the problem above? thanks

You're TV is not at the correct resolution for 480P material.

I am running a IN72 projector. It is a 480p projector so I would think it should be right???

Never Mind.

I've listed mine on ebay. Since I've had cable for a while, I don't really need this anymore. I really don't want to part with it since it was so hard to get in the first place, but I havn't used it in a year. Its in near-mint; i accidentally put a hair-line scratch on the front taking it out of my cabinet. Figured that maybe someone here may be interested.

ebay item number: 250075259090

Hi--

I know it's been a while since anyone has posted to this thread, but judging by the clamoring at the bit to get your hands on these things, I thought I should let you know that I'm selling one of these babies on ebay. Just search for auction number 130366524124. I'm willing to stop the auction and do a buy-it-now for $300 delivered within the 48-United States.

I still have mine. I've thought about selling it, but why would it fetch enough money to be worth the trouble? All TVs come with tuners these days; if you have cable or satellite you don't need a tuner. So the market must be pretty limited.

Hi--

I know it's been a while since anyone has posted to this thread, but judging by the clamoring at the bit to get your hands on these things, I thought I should let you know that I'm selling one of these babies on ebay. Just search for auction number 130366524124. I'm willing to stop the auction and do a buy-it-now for $300 delivered within the 48-United States.

?

The 'clamoring' you refer to is over 2 years old. There are new, more advanced products available for ~$100. A 4200 isn't worth $200, let alone $300.