How do you know which firmware is in a LG LST-3510A. Is there a menu that displays it.
Thanks
Bernie

From information posted in this forum:

Latest Firmware = 1.91 December 30, 2003

To check: press and hold the "Stop" and "Volume +" buttons on the front panel at the same time for a couple of seconds. You should get a service menu screen on your TV (monitor, etc).

Just went in and checked mine. Rom rev is 1.92 July 29, 2004 This may explain an issue I have with channel 2. I have reported this problem to LG and the engineers are suppose to be working on it. If I directly hit channel 2 on my remote, nothing happens. But if I use the channel up/down button, channel 2 works properly. I suspect this does not happen with rev 1.91
Bernie.

It's good to know that the latest firmware Rev is 1.92 July 29, 2004. Channel 2 works fine on 1.91 (at least mine does).

I have problems with the LG's DVI output syncing with my Panny 6UY. I wonder if this newer firmware rev fixes that problem?

Thanks for the info and good luck.

berniez..
be aware that if you're using the component outputs for DVD upscaling (720p/1080i), a firmware upgrade may affect that capability.

Originally posted by Mark521
It's good to know that the latest firmware Rev is 1.92 July 29, 2004. Channel 2 works fine on 1.91 (at least mine does).

I have problems with the LG's DVI output syncing with my Panny 6UY. I wonder if this newer firmware rev fixes that problem?

Thanks for the info and good luck.

I can switch directly to channel 2 on my remote when using the cable tv scan, but not when I use the OTA DTV scan. Sorry for the confusion.

I believe that the 720p/1080i over component bug was unfortunately fixed in the 1.90 or 1.91 firmware revision.

That is interesting in that over the air, you can't input channel 2 directly, but on cable you can. Now that is real weird. I am glad you cleared that up. Since I do not have cable installed, I never tested the unit that way. I am sending a followup email to LG in regards to this issue of cable/OTA. I have a file in place with LG to see if they could fix this problem. The more and accurate info they have the better. This problem is more of a nuisance than anything else. As far as the dvd upconversion goes, my rom revision 1.92 won't allow upconversion on original dvd movies. The unit is set for 1080i, and as soon as I put a dvd movie in there, it drops to 480p. It seems it will upconvert on recordable dvds. I am using component video cables.
Bernie

I purchased one the 3510A and LG claims (contrary to other postings on AVS) that the 3510A will not upconvert copyprotected DVDs through DVI.

I had trouble getting it to play any DVD at any resolution. However, on an interesting side note, the player did seemingly upconvert DVDs to 720P and 1080i through the component output.

Originally posted by sjyang
I purchased one the 3510A and LG claims (contrary to other postings on AVS) that the 3510A will not upconvert copyprotected DVDs through DVI.

I had trouble getting it to play any DVD at any resolution. However, on an interesting side note, the player did seemingly upconvert DVDs to 720P and 1080i through the component output.

What rev is your firmware?

Sorry I packaged the whole thing up to bring it back to BB. I did notice it was a november 2004 build.

I purchased my 3510a in December and have been harassing LG (Thank God for short hold times) regularily about the channel 2 issue. Every time the customer service person acts like they have never heard of the problem and then when I tell them that it is a known issue and I just need to see if they have a resolution I get put on hold, and they promise they will contact the engineering dept and let me know when they have a resolution. So far no response.

I'm not sure if anyone else has figured this out yet, but you can access the OTA "2" channel by keying in the true channel id, in my case (Portland KATU) it is channel 43-1. I set up my programmable remote with a one button entry for 43-1 so I can direct access 2 using the programmed button.

LG gave me the exact same response as you in regard to channel 2. I have previously posted this here and elsewhere. I gave up waiting for a followup from LG even though I have a file number. The unit had a 30 day return policy on it. I noticed the channel 2 problem the day I bought it even though I had no knowledge of this problem beforehand. I did some research and found this to be a widespread problem. I returned it for my money back. It also had issues with some dvds. I am buying a LST-4200A. I am hoping there is no issue with this unit. LG tech support obviously sucks. My guess is there is not enough complaints to merit a firmware fix. So they will probably continue to blow people off. If the 4200A works correctly out of the box, I should be ok. There have been no issues reported with the 4200A. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Bernie

Need help with the firmware version. I have read the post that says to see the firmware version press and hold the Stop and Volume + buttons on the front panel, but no matter how long I hold it or what screen I start with (DVD menu, DTV viewing etc) nothing happens. Can someone tell me what I must be doing wrong? I bought my 3510a in December. My serial number starts with 451-321...

I have also tried stop and volume down, channel up, & channel down with no sucess. I have also tried to view the output via Component, DVI and Composite outputs.

What am I doing wrong?

I did find that if you push the stop button first, then the Volume + it does NOT work. Both buttons at the same time, or the Volume + first worked for me.

I was able to access the prom code for the LST-3510A by:
in DVD mode, with no disk in the player, press PAUSE then 1 4 7 2
The prom codes on my player (Oct. 2004 build) are:
55 53 00 4A 12 00 7A FF
FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF

Can someone find out if the player can be hacked by changing
these codes (i.e. turn off macrovision)?

I have 2 of them, mine are 1.91 and 1.92.. If anyone has an older firmware that allows component upscale with regular dvd's.. I assume its 1.90 or older?.. Please let me know at laser1972@gmail.com

Thanks!

Did anyone ever get an older firmware for the LG 3510a that allows HD upconversion via component or rgb/vga? If so, can you email or send a link to me at mp1856@yahoo.com

Thanks!

Please email me too. Thank you! meltedcheez@hotmail.com

<snip> LG tech support obviously sucks. My guess is there is not enough complaints to merit a firmware fix. So they will probably continue to blow people off. If the 4200A works correctly out of the box, I should be ok. There have been no issues reported with the 4200A. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Bernie

LG service certainly does suck - that was my experience (and others here on AVS Forums) with trying to get them to respond to the LG 4200A problem that we have. If you live in the San Francisco Bay area and want to use the 4200A as a QAM tuner then forget about ABC and the PBS station (KQED) after 8pm. It can't tune back to them. That is certainly an issue that myself and others have reported here, and LG has done nothing about...

good luck

Peter

I am buying a LST-4200A. I am hoping there is no issue with this unit. If the 4200A works correctly out of the box, I should be ok. There have been no issues reported with the 4200A. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Bernie

Bernie, please give us a report on your 4200A after you've set it up. (I have one on order too). I'd like to know what you think are the pros & cons of this receiver. I've heard good things about it too.

-Alex-

I have this LG lst 3510 too and it can't play and commercial DVD's thru DVI and only does component 480P with these sorces. I have the 1.92 firmware, and this is the second LG unit LG has sent. Does the older firmware play upscaled commercial DVD's thru component?? It does upconvert non protected material. If any one has the older firmware with the upscaling, can you please e-mail me..
Thnks,
Sri

Sri, my guess is that the problem is not with your 3510 but with whatever you have connected to it. Are you sure the device is hdcp compliant? Or it may be possible that your DVI cable isn't passing the hdcp message back to the player. Good luck.

Has anyone had issues with channel 2 besides the known remote entry? Just recently, 2-1 has been coming in with a green and/or pink pixel hue. All the other channels work fine, and testing on another OTA tuner, the picture looks great.

Also, if anyone has the older firmware, can you email or send a link to me at valestin@gmail.com

Thanks!

I just checked mine. I picked up this past weekend. Has December, 2004
version 1.93

Just picked up the 3510-a and seem to have a problem. This box wont map STD cable channels, however surprisingly did map HD channels but through IRC (tried just for the heck of it). Has anyone else noticed this prob?. Firmware is mp 1.92. Also if anyone has found an earlier firmware version pls post. def would like to upconvert through component or RGB

Correction to last post, the box picked up the HD (and Sd) channels through HRC not IRC, all the rest of the channels that I normally get when cable is connected directly to the TV are not picked up at all through STD ot HRC

Ok, never mind, just figured out that this box doesnt have an ntsc tuner so no analog channels avail. I'll be thankful that I have free cable transmitted OTA HD and SD local channels.

Still looking for an earlier firmware that allows upconvert through rgb or component

Is it possible to do a DVI d - to component or rgb conversion that simulates the hdcp handshake?

Before I go into the service menu - is it easy to get out? I ran into problems like this with other equipment.

Ed

Has anybody been able to stop the macaronivision in the LST-3510A yet? I've been begging for that information on this forum for months and months. Mine is a 1.91.
All I want to do is watch my DVD's via the rgbhv on my old projector. Help me, pleeeeas.

Macaronivision?

My firmware is 1.8 from Oct. '03.

My unit does upconvert through component. Not sure if this will help anyone, however.

If I call it by it's real name, I'm afraid that brutes with clubs will break down my door. I just want it off of my VGAhv output! My LST-3510A is a 1.91. Send me somewhere that has an answer...or just send me the answer.

FYI.

From reading here, it is against the DVD forum rules to upconvert DVD format over analog. Early LG3510A players did upconvert thru analog but I guess from pressure from the DVD forum LG closed the hole. Now all players should only upconvert DVD thru a protected digital interface (i.e HDCP) to comply with the DVD forum rules.

BTW. I have one of this units and I got it some time back but since I have an HDCP monitor so for me it upconverts fine. If your TV is not HDCP compliant you may not even get it to display upconverted pictures using the player's DVI/HDCP out

I was high as a kite on this unit when it came out. I've come to the conclusion it's a piece of crap. I've had to send it in three times for a bad drive. The tuner works great, btu the DVD sucks.

Someone post the older firmware and put a link or send me an email message. I bought this for the component part to hook up to my X1 and now I can't even use this nor return it.

Hey Snoopy4, I'd say that the company that came up with this upscaling scam of a unit is the real piece of crap. False advertising? It used to upscale on the VGA output, but some genius decided that I'm not allowed to watch that nice of a picture. They're my eyes, LG!

If anyone has found or been able to downgrade their firmware, I would please like to know how, or where to get the earlier version. Thank you.

the problem I found with mine is strange (haven't checked the firmware version yet).

Going Component to an Optoma HD72. It will upscale to 720p (as I have it set) just fine on DVD's, but as soon as you change titles (I.e. get past the previews, don't download pirated copies cheesy video, etc) it goes back to 480p. The only way to watch the movie in 720p is to start the movie, power down the unit, and power up the unit so it starts where you left off.

Does anyone know if this happens over DVI (will be switching when I run the cables through the walls) or if there is a firmware fix for it?

Does anyone know if this happens over DVI (will be switching when I run the cables through the walls) or if there is a firmware fix for it?

I've never seen that issue running DVI. I have run both DVI and component and the DVI picture definately seems crisper. I know you will enjoy it.

the problem I found with mine is strange (haven't checked the firmware version yet).

Going Component to an Optoma HD72. It will upscale to 720p (as I have it set) just fine on DVD's, but as soon as you change titles (I.e. get past the previews, don't download pirated copies cheesy video, etc) it goes back to 480p. The only way to watch the movie in 720p is to start the movie, power down the unit, and power up the unit so it starts where you left off.

Does anyone know if this happens over DVI (will be switching when I run the cables through the walls) or if there is a firmware fix for it?
It's against the "rules" to upconvert component and that's why it doesn't let you. But it's allowed with HDMI or DVI with HDCP - so there shouldn't be a problem.

Ed

It's against the "rules" to upconvert component and that's why it doesn't let you. But it's allowed with HDMI or DVI with HDCP - so there shouldn't be a problem.

Ed

Thanks, I guess I'll keep using the "loop hole" I found in the "rules" to watch upconverted DVD over Component until I can get my in-wall wires run...after all I'm in Texas and we are talking attic work. Maybe early October it will be under 100 in the attic :p

Still kind of annoying that my projector starts searching for a new source (nice blue screen) when I switch titles on a DVD....I guess a new upconvert DVD player will be in the works in the future.

the problem I found with mine is strange (haven't checked the firmware version yet).

Going Component to an Optoma HD72. It will upscale to 720p (as I have it set) just fine on DVD's, but as soon as you change titles (I.e. get past the previews, don't download pirated copies cheesy video, etc) it goes back to 480p. The only way to watch the movie in 720p is to start the movie, power down the unit, and power up the unit so it starts where you left off.

Does anyone know if this happens over DVI (will be switching when I run the cables through the walls) or if there is a firmware fix for it?

When do you power down: during previews or after movie starts? I am running component and would like to try this.

Brett

When do you power down: during previews or after movie starts? I am running component and would like to try this.

Brett

The LST-3510A always shows that it is outputting 720p (the way I have it set)....it is only my projector that I can verify the true signal.

The first title is always upconverted fine. All subsequent titles are in 420p. So, I get the title playing that I want to see in 720p (I.e. the intro to the movie) and power the unit down (without hitting stop), so that when it powers back up, it will pick up where it left off in all of 720p glory :)

Edit: Using Firmware 1.93

Has anybody been able to post the older firmware? I would like it. Companies now allow upconversion over component yet LG has not updated the firmware or have they? If someone has the old firmware where you can have upconversion over component or IF someone has newer firmware that allows the same thing, can you post it online?

Thanks

Has anybody been able to post the older firmware? I would like it. Companies now allow upconversion over component yet LG has not updated the firmware or have they? If someone has the old firmware where you can have upconversion over component or IF someone has newer firmware that allows the same thing, can you post it online?

Thanks

Try this thread. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=331339&page=34&pp=30&highlight=3510a) Around Dec. 22 2006.

Companies now allow upconversion over component
That's news to me. I find it hard to believe.

Ed

That's news to me. I find it hard to believe.

Ed

Exactly, from what I have read / heard and experienced, upconversion over component is hard to find. When you can find it is only for a non-protected (read, not commercially made DVDs) source. Which limits you to TV recordings and home movies.

Although I can trick my old 3510A to upconvert a protected source over component :D

I did a search but I only found this thread, can someone help me with getting DVD+R discs to work with this unit? I try and watch programs and no matter if it is DVD-R or DVD+R the DVD acts like it is fast-forwarding itself and it does it all the way until the end of the disc and then it shows "stop". I have a single layered DVD burner. Thanks for the help.

I was going to also add that when I put in a regular DVD like for instance "Cars" it downscales to 480p over component, I wait till the movie starts, then I power the unit off, power back on, then the QAM tuner come on, I hit play and then you can watch the movie on 1080i, don't power back off or stop the DVD, only use pause. Otherwise you have to repeat. Hope this helps.

I did a search but I only found this thread, can someone help me with getting DVD+R discs to work with this unit? I try and watch programs and no matter if it is DVD-R or DVD+R the DVD acts like it is fast-forwarding itself and it does it all the way until the end of the disc and then it shows "stop". I have a single layered DVD burner. Thanks for the help.

I was going to also add that when I put in a regular DVD like for instance "Cars" it downscales to 480p over component, I wait till the movie starts, then I power the unit off, power back on, then the QAM tuner come on, I hit play and then you can watch the movie on 1080i, don't power back off or stop the DVD, only use pause. Otherwise you have to repeat. Hope this helps.

I think most of us who have this unit have resigned ourselves to the fact that the DVD side is a POS. Mine exhibits the same behaviour as yours, but with many commercial discs. I was going to try replacing the drive, but the part from Zenith is $108 - no thanks.

I've tried all 3 versions of the firmware that I know about (1.91 - 1.93) without any change. I've more or less given up and just use my 3510a as a tuner (which it's great at).

... I was going to try replacing the drive, but the part from Zenith is $108 - no thanks.

...

Speaking of the drive, does anyone know if any of the other DVD players on the market use the same drive?

I've seen some ~$70 players that look like they might use the same drive and I might be willing to pay that much if I knew for certain that it was a drive that would work in the 3510.

I have been able to get good DVD+R playback using high quality media like Verbatim and a high quality burner drive that I can check has good quality scans. The LG 3510A for me does better with DVD+RW media however, even with lower quality burns they play better than some +Rs. Burning DVD+Rs at lower speeds helps a lot. I use a newer LiteOn model drive and burn Verbatim 16x rated +Rs at 8x speed for the higher quality.

Speaking of the drive, does anyone know if any of the other DVD players on the market use the same drive?

I've seen some ~$70 players that look like they might use the same drive and I might be willing to pay that much if I knew for certain that it was a drive that would work in the 3510.

By comparing the service manuals I'm pretty sure I've determined that the Zenith combo DVD/VCR units, model #'s 3xx, use the same part number for the drive unit. There's also similar units rebadged with the "Allegro" nameplate. I almost had one yesterday, but got outbid at the last minute.

I'm not willing to pony up even $70 as I've moved my 3510 into the bedroom. I'm currently only using it to tune QAM into a *gasp* 27" 480i tube TV. :D

$30 is about the most I want to spend, and most auctions are almost getting that for just the shipping.

I'm not willing to pony up even $70 as I've moved my 3510 into the bedroom. I'm currently only using it to tune QAM into a *gasp* 27" 480i tube TV. :D

Don't feel bad, my 3510A has been demoted (DVD drive is just way to noisy) to the bedroom hooked up to a $75 20" 480i tube TV. The 3510A is worth more than 2x the TV's value. Antenna only, none the less. ;)

My 3510 is still getting heavy use since it is still the best STB that I've seen for getting OTA HD to my front projector via DVI.

My DVD collection is actually in a pair of megachangers, so I really don't need the DVD capability of the 3510, but it is more convenient to use the 3510 for rental discs rather than one of the megachangers.

I bought the LG 3510A six months ago based upon information provided in this forum. Now I’m having a problem with my unit randomly shutting down for no reason. I have to unplug and plug it back in to resume operation. This happens while watching TV through the tuner, and while playing DVDs. I have firmware v1.93. I would like to do the “SYSTEM S/W UP-DATE & DIAGNOSTIC S/W APPLICATION” but find the instructions in the service manual rather cryptic. Has anyone seen a clear explanation of how to do this?

Thnx
H -

I think you have to have a special program and hook up to the machines serial port. How you get your hands on the program that executes the update is a good question. My thinking it is an LG only program (I.e. not in the general public).

Never had a random shut down on mine, just a wobbly, squeaky DVD drive.

I found the f/w update software and service manual instructions on how to do it, in another AVS thread, where I also posted the question. Others in that thread have claimed success at it. However, that thread seems to be dead now, so I posted it here as well. I was just looking for someone who had done it to help me understand the instructions better. They aren’t very clear.

I am very discouraged with this unit as it was expensive, and even when it does work is quirky. The random shutting down is weird, and may not be a software issue at all, but I’d like to try it before I trash it or even send it to a LG repair technician for $100/hr. Thanks for the reply.

Thnx.
H -

1.93 is the latest firmware available AFAIK. No random shutdown issues have been widely reported with any of the firmware versions, so I'm afraid your problem sounds like a hardware issue.

You can try downgrading the firmware if you want. The procedure is fairly easy even though the directions in the service manual suck. Did you find and download TerraTerm? That's the first step.

I downloaded the service manual, and a version of the firmware described as 1.94 from the LG website. I also located and downloaded TeraTerm v3.1. I have never used this software before and the service manual’s instructions are as clear as mud, so I’m a little hesitant to proceed. I would like to have someone at least give me their insight on what the they mean in plain English.

I think it may be a software problem, because I went into the service menu to see what it said. I carefully tried not to, and don’t think I changed anything, but can’t rule it out completely. Have you upgraded your firmware?

Thnx
H -

My 3510a, which I've had for several years without a problem, has suddenly started a random shutdown and non-display on the front panel. I unplug the unit and then replug, and all is well, except that I have no TV Guide listings, and they don't seem to come back when I leave the unit off overnight, or if I leave it on for that matter.
Anyone have any suggestions?

TV Guide Listings? Do you have the 3510A (DVD Player / Tuner) or the 3410A (HD DVR)?

My 3510a, which I've had for several years without a problem, has suddenly started a random shutdown and non-display on the front panel. I unplug the unit and then replug, and all is well, except that I have no TV Guide listings, and they don't seem to come back when I leave the unit off overnight, or if I leave it on for that matter.
Anyone have any suggestions?

Check that it has the correct date and time. If it thinks it is the year 2000, no guide data it gets will be in range.

Sorry about that; meant 3410a. Yes, the date and time is set correctly, but it just won't get or hold the TV guide info. For example, last night it had the guide but it showed no listings, and that had been the case for days. Earlier, it had suddenly lost the front panel display; unplugging and replugging turned it back on. Then, this morning it had the guide and the proper listings and all seemed well, but after I left it on for a time, the guide just disappeared and no amount of tinkering through the menu could make it appear. Showed live tv ok, and could access the list of recorded programs, but couldn't display the basic guide, even without guide info. Something is definitely wrong.

Carl P., our problems sound similar. When your machine shuts down does the power light blink rapidly? That’s what happens to mine. However, when I re-plug mine it functions normally for a while and then blinks off again. Also, has anyone performed a firmware update?

Thnx
H -

Sorry about that; meant 3410a. Yes, the date and time is set correctly, but it just won't get or hold the TV guide info.

Might want to check the 3410A thread...if it's anything like the Sony DHG-HHD250/500 thread (which also uses TVGOS) there will be plenty of talk about it :o

"Carl P., our problems sound similar. When your machine shuts down does the power light blink rapidly? That’s what happens to mine. However, when I re-plug mine if functions normally for a while and then blinks off again. Also, has anyone performed a firmware update?"

No, the machine just suddenly goes dark, or the tv guide just disappears.

How do I check the firmare version and how do I update? Sent it off to LG a couple years back, and they fixed the then problems.

Also, has anyone performed a firmware update?

Thnx
H -

Yeah, I've done both an update and a downgrade. It's not too difficult once you translate the Chinglish in the service manual. I used a laptop and a usb-->serial cable, TeraTerm, and the firmware file(s) from the LG Academy site. It didn't fix my DVD playback issues, but all went well. I'm currently at 1.91, a downgrade from the 1.92 that was originally installed. I think it gives me upconversion over component, but so few DVD's actually play that I can't tell for sure. :D

I pulled the thing out of my entertainment center and now only use it for QAM tuning to a 27" 480i RCA tv. :eek:

LST-3510A
To check firmware version: press and hold the "Stop" and "Volume +" buttons on the front panel at the same time for a couple of seconds. You should get a service menu screen on your TV (monitor, etc).

"Carl P., our problems sound similar. When your machine shuts down does the power light blink rapidly? That’s what happens to mine. However, when I re-plug mine if functions normally for a while and then blinks off again. Also, has anyone performed a firmware update?"

No, the machine just suddenly goes dark, or the tv guide just disappears.

How do I check the firmare version and how do I update? Sent it off to LG a couple years back, and they fixed the then problems.