The Cave has awesome bass! Not a great movie but it's worth it.

Because I am a recreational cave diver, over the years I have met a couple of the support divers and the head underwater videographer, Wes Skiles. His base of operations is in north-central Florida where a lot of cave diving takes place. I have it first hand that the movie is not great, but I have to buy it anyway :D

Great bass is just a plus for me!

I just hope it's better than Van Helsing was :p ...please tell me it is.

ss9001

I can't seem to find the Haunting DTS anywhere for sale. I'm thinking of just renting the DD version to have a little taste. Maybe I'll put more effort into getting the DTS version(ebay, FS/T forum, etc) when I get my new system setup.

Also, is there a seperate release of WoTW with DTS, or is there just one DTS/DD release?

You may want to keep searching for the DTS release. I generally play the DTS version of any movie I watch, because I feel it is better, but most are really pretty similar to the DD version. Especially with most of the new releases, they do a pretty good job with the DD tracks. This is not the case with The Haunting. The DTS version is far superior in the sound/bass experience. Other older titles that are worth seeking out the DTS versions because they are so much better are Saving Private Ryan and Jurassic Park. Unlike most of todays titles where you can get both DTS and DD on the same disc, these three were released as completely seperate discs.

I just hope it's better than Van Helsing was :p ...please tell me it is.

ss9001

Not sure which is "better" :D

I'd rent it first if I were you.

I can't seem to find the Haunting DTS anywhere for sale. I'm thinking of just renting the DD version to have a little taste. Maybe I'll put more effort into getting the DTS version(ebay, FS/T forum, etc) when I get my new system setup.

Also, is there a seperate release of WoTW with DTS, or is there just one DTS/DD release?

Raduque, here you go. Both brand new.

http://cgi.*********/HAUNTING-DTS-DVD-W-S-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ6470987162QQcategoryZ617QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.*********/The-Haunting-DTS-DVD-New_W0QQitemZ6471128606QQcategoryZ617QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1 QQcmdZViewItem

My links aren't working now. Just go to ebay and type in Haunting DTS. You should get a couple options out of that. I bought one, myself, yesterday.

serenity...heard that's a great demo disc

You may want to keep searching for the DTS release. I generally play the DTS version of any movie I watch, because I feel it is better, but most are really pretty similar to the DD version. Especially with most of the new releases, they do a pretty good job with the DD tracks. This is not the case with The Haunting. The DTS version is far superior in the sound/bass experience. Other older titles that are worth seeking out the DTS versions because they are so much better are Saving Private Ryan and Jurassic Park. Unlike most of todays titles where you can get both DTS and DD on the same disc, these three were released as completely seperate discs.

I agree with this analogy, also worth adding is the fact that since DVD's have been designed to include both DD and DTS audio tracks, the compression on DTS audio tracks have increased. For more information on the DTS verses DD issue see the link below. I found it rather informative.

http://www.dvdreview.com/html/what_makes_dts_so_special_.html


Ian

Yeah, there were more full and half-bit rate DTS tracks before compared to now.

Yeah, there were more full and half-bit rate DTS tracks before compared to now.

Exactly. It's all about mass merchandising. Which inspired this follow up article:

http://www.dvdreview.com/html/a_renewed_look_at_dts.html


Ian

Not to derail the latest tangent :D , but back OT real quick, a good DVD with some extreme low-end content is the Exorcism of Emily Rose. The first attack scene, and just about any scene with a storm has some impressive bass that my current sub can't even come close to doing justice to. During one scene about midway through, the air from the port on my subwoofer was ruffling my pants leg from about 5 feet away :eek:

Kurt: thanks, but i'm not real big on fleabay, myself. I'll give it a look, though!

I'll offer a second vote for "The Blue Man Group." Their

Audio (DTS, Dolby Digital, DVD-A)
The Complex Rock Tour Live (Dolby Surround, DTS)
Complex (DVD-A, DTS, DTS 96/23)

create walls of sound that can almost cause a cardic arrest.

You may also consider these concert DVDs:

Eagles Hell Freezes Over
Scorsese The Last Waltz Special Edition
Standing in the Shadows of Motown
BeeGees One Night Only
Talking Heads Stop Making Sense
Tina Turner Live in Amsterdam
Dire Straits Brothers in Arms
Buena Vista Social Club (DVD-A)

Beware that that DVD-A and SACD mixed audio does not allow for safe bass control in low end systems. It's very easy to blow out your speakers, if your crossover is set much above 60Mhz. Crank up the volume with care, or you may find yourself in the house of pain! See:

http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/specsformats/DVD-AudioSACD12.php

...my $0.02.

Enjoy the music...

Just watched The Fog and there's lot's of Scary Bass! :eek:




Ian :D

I second what Ian said about "The Fog". Holy crap. The movie might not be much, but great SCARY bass.

This movie might not have thunderous bass throught the entire movie, but City of God has some of the shootout scenes I have ever heard. The seperation from channel to channel is amazing. And oh yea.....tons of bass.

Hi-

...just in case you did not know...
There's a thread where Kweezr and others chart the bass response of certain scense. Click the link in my signature to get to it and you can post your request.

Stealth
Elektra
The Haunting
u57i
MIB 2
Hellboy
Saving Private Ryan
Batman Returns

The movie "The Forgotten" has some great bass when the people get sucked into thin air and the car crash scene. Also the end of Batman Begins has some awesome bass.

Wallace & Grommitt has surprising bass. There are a lot scenes with a giant bunny running around that really thumps. Towards the middle he throws a tree as well which packs a punch. Prompted my wife to worry about the neighbors complaining.

Vote for Boogeyman which is not too bad as i first thought would be...had it not even close to reference and those door slams (various scenes) were making my wife jump out of her seat and smack me on the arm! :D That should tell ya something...many others but many people have helped mention some great ones..

watched king kong the other nite ... good all around flic. as you could imagine a 25ft ape makes quite a bit of noise...good LFE track. my IB was hoppin ... and i was smilin'

watched king kong the other nite ... good all around flic. as you could imagine a 25ft ape makes quite a bit of noise...good LFE track. my IB was hoppin ... and i was smilin'

Which King Kong are you refereing to? The latest version hasn't been released on DVD yet. If you like monsters and bass then check out Dungeons and Dragons, the last three chapters have killer bass! :D

Ian

Speaking of apes. I just heard that there will be an extended version of PJ's King Kong released a few months after the initial release a'la LOTR, so be forewarned!

Which King Kong are you refereing to? The latest version hasn't been released on DVD yet. If you like monsters and bass then check out Dungeons and Dragons, the last three chapters have killer bass! :D

Ian

i will check out D&D over the weekend.

i will check out D&D over the weekend.
The first one or the second one?

The first one or the second one?

The one that was released last week:

Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God (2005)


Ian

The one that was released last week:

Dungeons & Dragons: Wrath of the Dragon God (2005)


Ian
Cool. I have that one sitting at home. Didn't have much hopes for it though since the first one sucked so bad. Haven't gotten around to watching it though.

Cool. I have that one sitting at home. Didn't have much hopes for it though since the first one sucked so bad. Haven't gotten around to watching it though.


I didn't even know they made a sequel.

I didn't even know they made a sequel.
Direct to video. Supposed to be (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0406728/) better than the original dud, but that's not really saying much. I'll probably sit down and watch it tonight.

The 2nd D&D movie is good. it's much more true to the pen&pencil game. In fact, all the actors and actresses had 3rd Edition Player's Handbooks and read up on what each class (or classes) were supposed to do.

It's slow to start (and a little silly at the beginning) but it's worth it to be patient with the first 20-odd minutes, when things finally get interesting.

I'm especially partial to the barbarian. :D

anyway, back on topic... killer bass indeed.

Underworld

did someone mention this one? has some deep bass throughout the entire movie..if its not the soundtrack in the movie its the guns that goes off frequently :)

War of the Worlds (Tom Cruise) DTS 6.1, SW Ep 3: Revenge of the Sith DD Surround Ex, Toy Story Special Edition DTS, Master and Commander, The Incredibles, Saving Private Ryan, Motley Crue-Carnival of Sins Tour (Tommy Lee solo)

SW Ep 3 was a huge disappointment for bass, with lackluster LFE compared to Eps 1 & 2.

SW Ep 3 was a huge disappointment for bass, with lackluster LFE compared to Eps 1 & 2.

what he said

When I fired up my first surround system, I was blown away with Batman returns. I believe... the one with Danny Devito, any way its the scene when the clowns attack everyone. The "jack in the box" gatling gun scene was the start of my addiction. That was vhs too!!!

The new War of the Worlds, Independence day, and I love the elephant screen in the 3rd LOTR's.

Although not house crumbling, the trailer for "Memoirs of a Geisha" (sp?) on the "Legend of Zorro" intro had a LOT of bass. Even my wife noticed.

Another mention for Boogeyman. I watched it on cable, in Dolby Digital, but still, not the full range a DVD would have. The bottom end throughout the movie is pretty intense.

It's an o.k. job for a PG13 horror movie, nothing all that special but the use of the bottom end was pretty clever...a soundtrack to help make up for a thin plot. Worth renting if you are a horror fan I would say.

Just finished watching Transporter 2, decent low end in that one, but the plot was so awful and direction so poor...even the soundtrack really couldn't make up for it. It was close to XXX bad as far as unrealistic cg stunts...stuff that would have been amusing if Spiderman had done it, but they try to sell it to you as reality instead.

The Disney movie, "Dinosaur" has ridiculous bass. I watched it with my son the other day and there is a scene where a meteor hits the earth. The explosion and ensuing chaos is amazing.

How about SAW 2 seemed good to me at first. i fell asleep to much beer :) Tried watching it late at night. Seemed like good bass on my Vrp 1000. If you have really good sub it should really blow. I'll watch it again sober.

Just watched "The Cave". Average Alien wannabe at best. But one hell of an LFE track and excellent surround effects put to use...

I agree about the Exorcism Of Emily Rose, very effective all around.
The same goes for Saw II but it's a terrible movie, as oppose to 'Rose.
I keep seing Underworld being mentioned but that movie barelly has any real deep content[below35hz], and it's extremelly compressed[dynamically] so it's loud all the time.
One that nobody mentioned specifically was the Matrix in the first scene when the cops confront Trinity and she jumps up and does the front kick freeze it goes well below 20 hz
Really?, The original Matrix was no bass monster especially compared to it's sequells.Not much below 30hz at all even at the Helicopter crash scene, The same goes to SPR, and the 5th Element.
Serenity however just really kicks ass, so is Mr&Mrs Smith, fun fun fun.
Doom also gets some nods from me, but a rental at best.

i found a massive, regularly updated list of DTS DVD's for your listening pleasure.

DTS List (http://www.spannerworks.net/reference/10_6a.asp)

enjoy

I just watched Saw II. Not one of your better horror films. The bass was decent, but it wasn't hot enough to rattle the room.

Ian

I agree about the Exorcism Of Emily Rose, very effective all around.
The same goes for Saw II but it's a terrible movie, as oppose to 'Rose.
I keep seing Underworld being mentioned but that movie barelly has any real deep content[below35hz], and it's extremelly compressed[dynamically] so it's loud all the time.

Really?, The original Matrix was no bass monster especially compared to it's sequells.Not much below 30hz at all even at the Helicopter crash scene, The same goes to SPR, and the 5th Element.
Serenity however just really kicks ass, so is Mr&Mrs Smith, fun fun fun.
Doom also gets some nods from me, but a rental at best.

I have the fullbitrate japanese dts version of Underworld...... doesn't sound compressed to me but does sound very nice...... Saving Private Ryans tank scene near the end of the movie sounds ( feels ) a lot lower than 30hz to me.... anyways most of the really nice sounding bass actually does fall inbetween the 30hz and 40hz range and is often mistaken as being lower than it is because it sounds so good.

This weekend I threw in Disney's Atlantis - The lost Empire for the kids. I was pretty impressed. Some of the underwater scenes sounded like they had some sub 15hz. Cute movie too.

I know this movie has been listed a million times, but I have to give it its due props. I watched War of the Worlds last night--What everyone has said is true and then some. Yes, the lightning scene alone would put this movie on the top ten bass movie list, but that wasn't what impressed me the most. The "rising or earthquake scene" (trying not to give anything away--in the middle of the street after the lighting scene) has the most prolonged subwoofer torture test I have ever heard. It literally lasts 5 full minutes of room rearranging bass. It is all low, feel it in your gut type and it just keeps going and going--unreal. There are about a dozen spots in the movie that are impressive, but that one takes the cake for me--it is loud, deep and lasts much longer than most great bass scenes. (i have scene most all of best "bass scenes" LOTR's, M&C, Haunting, Matrix's, Titan AE, Nemo, SWII, u571, etc.) BTW i run a pb12-plus/2.

I thought there was some deep bass in the Matrix Reloaded "burly brawl". Whenever there was a slowmo sequence, the bass digged deep.

I don't know how deep the bass goes in that fight . Perhaps someone could find out ?

And also, early on in the fight, just prior to when Smith overturned Neo into the bench, Neo kicked a Smith and my whole room shook. Can anyone find out how low the bass went there ?

Also Matrix Revolutions. "Superbrawl". Again, when the lightning strikes, my whole room just shook. I felt the bass nicely and I have a single PB-10 ISD in a 3400 cubic foot room.

I know that these are old films but I just keep coming back to them.

--Sincerely,

Bsheldon, just for interests sake, do you calibrate your sub accurately with the mains or hot ?

--Sincerely,

I know this movie has been listed a million times, but I have to give it its due props. I watched War of the Worlds last night--What everyone has said is true and then some. Yes, the lightning scene alone would put this movie on the top ten bass movie list, but that wasn't what impressed me the most. The "rising or earthquake scene" (trying not to give anything away--in the middle of the street after the lighting scene) has the most prolonged subwoofer torture test I have ever heard. It literally lasts 5 full minutes of room rearranging bass. It is all low, feel it in your gut type and it just keeps going and going--unreal. There are about a dozen spots in the movie that are impressive, but that one takes the cake for me--it is loud, deep and lasts much longer than most great bass scenes. (i have scene most all of best "bass scenes" LOTR's, M&C, Haunting, Matrix's, Titan AE, Nemo, SWII, u571, etc.) BTW i run a pb12-plus/2.

I've been playing back and forth with the 20Hz and 16Hz tune and when they are getting on the ferry and the tripod appears on the hill above, the two last steps then the horn ! :eek: :D

Art

Art,

What's your take so far on the 16hz tune?


Tim

SW Ep 3 was a huge disappointment for bass, with lackluster LFE compared to Eps 1 & 2.

The opening scene where the two Jedi fighters flying by Republic Cruiser made up for the rest of the movies. As good as War of the worlds, only shorter in duration.

The opening scene where the two Jedi fighters flying by Republic Cruiser made up for the rest of the movies. As good as War of the worlds, only shorter in duration.


There's a little bass for one fly-by, and then none for the rest in the scene.
And then the huge cruiser slides along the ground for a minute with no bass whatsoever, but a tower is knocked over by it and it makes a boom.

i run just about 3hz hot. I have it in 20 hz mode. I listened to several of my deep bass tests in 16 hz and didn't notice much of a difference--there is some, but not enough to make much of a difference. I liked 20hz mode for music better. some of the steps of the tripods are just plain ridiculous, you almost need seatbelts. I thought the horn noise was going to roast my center-its very loud.

I am still freaked out by the bass in WOTW and I watched it over two weeks ago :eek: :eek: :eek:

Art,

What's your take so far on the 16hz tune?


Tim


Well, I really wish I could say that it sounds so much better or I've heard things I've never heard and I had a wet dream while awake or something but I'm just not noticing any improvement. I put them back at 20Hz yesterday and it seems more natural if I can say that. I wonder if there are things down real low that ,yes they are there but, perhaps not really intended to be heard. See I have four plugs two are hard to get to and the dial settings so A/B ain't easy. I had 15 guests on Saturday night and I told them I was experimenting a bit. I'm just getting the feeling that, although admittedly subjective , the eight or so deep bass films I've experiened, that more sound better at 20 Hz. Exceptions are Sky Captain and The Island which could go either way.The bass sounds cleaner and less boomy I think would be a good description.

Please don't take this as my final take since I will likely spend more time perhaps in
doing some more tests with a few friends with me and get demos together in an organized comparison.

Art

I have the fullbitrate japanese dts version of Underworld...... doesn't sound compressed to me but does sound very nice...... Saving Private Ryans tank scene near the end of the movie sounds ( feels ) a lot lower than 30hz to me.... anyways most of the really nice sounding bass actually does fall inbetween the 30hz and 40hz range and is often mistaken as being lower than it is because it sounds so good.
The compression is dynamic not codec related it is done on purpose, to make it loud all the time which it is.
I've seen several graphs back in the days when it was a "hot tittle" of SPR ,none reached below 30 hz , maybe some of the guys who does this lately can run them again?
Kweezr?[sp]?

The compression is dynamic not codec related it is done on purpose, to make it loud all the time which it is.


I understand what you are saying as Blade 2 is exactly the same.

I personally prefer those movies which can be quiet one second then without warning hit you with 100+decibels of sound.... especially horror movies which are well mixed.... I liked The Haunting dts soundtrack because of this.

I would be surprised if Saving Private Ryan wasn't lower than 30hz...... it still sounds good though and is a well mixed soundtrack.

I've been playing back and forth with the 20Hz and 16Hz tune and when they are getting on the ferry and the tripod appears on the hill above, the two last steps then the horn ! :eek: :D

Art


Just watched WOTW and that scene is amazing. I just got my SVS-PC-Ultra yesterday. The 2 steps are incredible....the horn is like desert after the steak!

Then entire movie is packed with Great bass, movie is good too, the end kind of peeters out though....

What future DVD's (king Kong) do we have to look forward to for some more house crumbling bass?

I've always thought that one of the earliest DVD's released had some of the greatest sub-woofer usage for demo purposes.

Twister

Doug

Try the scene in Polar Express where the train rolls in outside of the house. Long, consistent bass that will make you think there really is a train pulling up outside.

Where in "IRENE" is the best bass? Is it when the glass is rattling on the table? Anyone have a timestamp of where to look for this?

Where in "IRENE" is the best bass? Is it when the glass is rattling on the table? Anyone have a timestamp of where to look for this?


What movie is this?

I would guess he's talking about Black Hawk Down? That's the only "IRENE" I know of.

Yes - Black Hawk Down - Chapter "IRENE" - just curious where the 18Hz is....

We watched the newly released DVD 'Zathura' the other night, sequel to Jumanji. There are a few scenes that gave my PB12-Plus/2 a nice workout. The first time a Zorgon ship does a close fly-by (made my wife say, "Holy sh*t, the house is shaking!). The robot running around the house. When the Zorgon's are getting ready to board the house, they shoot spear-tipped chains at the house. The first one that comes through the wall shook my house. Pretty cool movie.

Jumanji has some nice very nice bass too.

Resident Evil, both flicks.

Where in "IRENE" is the best bass? Is it when the glass is rattling on the table? Anyone have a timestamp of where to look for this? Its' right after the pilot says "****in' Irene", there are some fundamnetals that is below 10hz, one can't hear it though, and can damage subs without infrasonic filters at very loud levels.

Yes - Black Hawk Down - Chapter "IRENE" - just curious where the 18Hz is....

I thought it was the wooshing blades. Like pulsing air... but I'm wrong a lot so...

I don't think anything has topped The Haunting-DTS yet, am I wrong?

I don't think anything has topped The Haunting-DTS yet, am I wrong? War of the Worlds is the new champ.


Tim

Domino dts-es

Looks like some one beat me to it. Just watched give the movie 4 out of 5. Give the bass 4.5 out of 5.

War of the Worlds is the new champ.


Tim



WOTW without a doubt.

My subwoofer handles everything War of the Worlds throws at it but The Haunting dts is the only dvd i own which has some low level distortion during the very lowest bass notes of this movie........so my vote for best bass in a movie goes to The Haunting.... check the movie section out you will find theBland who has a very top knotch system seems to agree.

WotW goes lower than the Haunting, but the Haunting is louder in the 15-30Hz range.
Chapter 7 of WotW is the only scene that has a similar volume level of bass.

Anyone know where I kind find "The Haunting" DTS.

It's seems Amazon has them used but it is very hard to tell if they are the DTS version or not?

http://www.playusa.com/DVD/Region_1/3-/120961/-/Product.html

The above is a direct link to The Haunting dts click dollars to see how much it costs in your currency.

Ignore the special features they are listed wrongly.

i think you're referring to the incredibles?

if you were, i had to turn DOWN the volume on my sub cuz it was erm... distrubing the peace... ahahha

and that new thx logo, man that thing is AWESOME!!! snuck some thumping bass in there... someone find out how low that bass goes!!!

Re-watched the Incredibles last night on my week old S12. The THX intro was off the charts. I had to run it 5 or 6 times until the rest of the family gave me an "enough already." I swear you could feel that concussion blow through your hair!!! The rest of the movie is chock full of good sub material.

the scene where "manny" gets vaporized.You are looking through the rearview mirror and all is going to hell behind him (Tom C. ).

I just can't belive the first 20min.

Does the "Blat" sound of the horn sound funny in anyone elses center channel? It would be the scene where the alien ship is crapping out something.

My subwoofer handles everything War of the Worlds throws at it but The Haunting dts is the only dvd i own which has some low level distortion during the very lowest bass notes of this movie........so my vote for best bass in a movie goes to The Haunting.... check the movie section out you will find theBland who has a very top knotch system seems to agree.
What subwoofer do you have, if it has steep infrasonic filters, then anything below that fr will be "ignored". In any case evaluating objectivelly a soundtrack's deep bass extent by ear is futile,not just because of the complex nature of the soundtracks, but there are just too many variables to draw a valid conclusion.

What subwoofer do you have, if it has steep infrasonic filters, then anything below that fr will be "ignored". In any case evaluating objectivelly a soundtrack's deep bass extent by ear is futile,not just because of the complex nature of the soundtracks, but there are just too many variables to draw a valid conclusion.

SVS PB-12/Plus 2 and i spent a considerable time getting this baby to work well.

I wasn't judging it by ear i was judging it based on the floor moving underneath my feet and the couch vibrating ( loved it ) and the distortion was very mild.... talking split seconds from certain scenes and maybe 2 seconds from another scene.... it handled most of the movie fine and distortion was probably either something to do with the port or room problems.... only mentioned it because War of the Worlds was a breeze for my subwoofer with zero distortion yet apparently it goes lower with the bass than The Haunting.

My evaluation was also based on some graphs which have been produced for the particular scene i was referring to so it wasn't just an ear thing.

Just watched Corpse Bride, pretty decent movie, bridge scene where the crows fly over had the room shakeing pretty good with my 2 pc-ultra's.

the scene where "manny" gets vaporized.You are looking through the rearview mirror and all is going to hell behind him (Tom C. ).

I just can't belive the first 20min.

Does the "Blat" sound of the horn sound funny in anyone elses center channel? It would be the scene where the alien ship is crapping out something.


There is (at least) one spot where the horn sound sounds distorted. It sounds that way at low volume as well. IIRC, it sounds that way on the DD soundtrack as well.

Yes, same thing here. It must be intentional. Just because we have systems that can deliver high spl at low distortion doesn't mean that aliens do too. :)

Is it just me or is the opening of the special edition of the frighteners seriously overcooked even from the moment the first old Universal logo appears.

This is the only disc I have to adjust both LFE and SW down on to listen comfortably the pressure is way to high...

A vote for the sky captain which I have just rewatched ... At times the room does'nt stop shaking yet its so sharp and never booms....

I just saw Sin City on Starz-HD. It had killer bass in parts. Does the current DVD have a good sound track or should I wait until an SE version is released?

I just saw Sin City on Starz-HD. It had killer bass in parts. Does the current DVD have a good sound track or should I wait until an SE version is released?

thought the se was already out

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=58475

There is (at least) one spot where the horn sound sounds distorted. It sounds that way at low volume as well. IIRC, it sounds that way on the DD soundtrack as well.

Thanx, you never know with soundtracks.

I just saw Sin City on Starz-HD. It had killer bass in parts. Does the current DVD have a good sound track or should I wait until an SE version is released?


As dannyandjackie said, the SE is already out. Both versions have a nice DTS track as well, although the individual stories in the SE are DD-only.

As dannyandjackie said, the SE is already out. Both versions have a nice DTS track as well, although the individual stories in the SE are DD-only.I searched for it at Amazon and found a nice write-up pointing to the differences in the SE version. I showed it to a co-worker who complained mightily that he wanted it for the same $15 as for the first version he had already purchased.

:rolleyes:

I searched for it at Amazon and found a nice write-up pointing to the differences in the SE version. I showed it to a co-worker who complained mightily that he wanted it for the same $15 as for the first version he had already purchased.

:rolleyes:

Yup, you're getting the actual film (same as original release), plus another DVD with extra footage and all of the stories individually as they appeared in the comics, rather than all mixed together as one movie.

Domino dts-es


I watched this last night. Unfortunately I couldn't listen too loud, but the bass was very nice. Maybe not "house-crumbling" sustained bass in the sense of Polar Express or WoTW, but there was good, strong bass throughout (music and sound effects).

The movie itself was also enjoyable, especially as a fan of Ms. Knightley.

SVS PB-12/Plus 2 and i spent a considerable time getting this baby to work well.

I wasn't judging it by ear i was judging it based on the floor moving underneath my feet and the couch vibrating ( loved it ) and the distortion was very mild.... talking split seconds from certain scenes and maybe 2 seconds from another scene.... it handled most of the movie fine and distortion was probably either something to do with the port or room problems.... only mentioned it because War of the Worlds was a breeze for my subwoofer with zero distortion yet apparently it goes lower with the bass than The Haunting.

My evaluation was also based on some graphs which have been produced for the particular scene i was referring to so it wasn't just an ear thing.
Oh yeah, I remember now, you had some issues to set it up, did you get an EQ yet?Where is it set[tuning], just curious.
I have that sub too, along with others, very potent for sure.

Oh yeah, I remember now, you had some issues to set it up, did you get an EQ yet?Where is it set[tuning], just curious.
I have that sub too, along with others, very potent for sure.

No equaliser and tuned to 16hz..... since i like the sound now i decided not to go for an equaliser.... maybe i'll change my mind later in the year if Behringer listen to people on this forum and make a dedicated one for us all.

The Haunting dts-es, it's cold

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfalls/TheHaunting_cold_LFE.jpg

WotW dts, ch7

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v24/weezR/Waterfalls/WotW_ch7_31.jpg

The Haunting dts-es, it's cold

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WotW dts, ch7

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Hi Kweezr. Would you mind explaining these images. The top axis is of course frequency. Is the other axis the intensity, how so?

Thanks

Horizontal axis is frequency. Vertical axis is time (usually the bottom is the beginning of the scene). Intensity is based on the color. White is the strongest/loudest. White > pink > red > orange > yellow > green > blue.

Well, it appears that from that WotW is lower and more powerful than the The Haunting.

Art

I just watched the perfect movie for house crumbling bass. Its called "Step Into Liquid" It is a surfing movie made that is more of a documentary than an actual movie. Anyways, the movie is filled with huge waves crashing down that provide huge bass that fills the room. I recomend this movie to anyone who enjoys surfing or sports documentaries. But if you want bass, check it out anyways.

"Ring of Fire" an IMAX release in 6-track digital has earthquake and volcano bass that is deep and tight. It also has spectacular cinemaphotography.

where does everyone find DTS versions of these movies? I have been looking around and all I can find is DD. Thanks for the info. in advance!

where does everyone find DTS versions of these movies? I have been looking around and all I can find is DD. Thanks for the info. in advance!


Put the dvd in the player. once the menu comes up, click on ""set up"" or ""Audio""

that is where you find the dts option. If it has it. :)

Not all movies have DTS. Some movies only have DTS on certain versions (special edition, Criterion, Superbit, deluxe, etc.)

I think you should be able to find a list of films with DTS somewhere, like the DTS website.

But DTS isn't the default soundtrack, so like Tdekany said, you have to choose it from the audio menu.

Another vote for The Incredibles. The scene where they are all fighting together in the jungle shakes the mirror and light fixtures in our bath room. I didn't discover this until one day while I was setting on the toilet. I didn't know the kids were watching the movie and I thought we were having an earthquake.

Jim

Try going in there with the train approach at the beginning of Polar Express for a real earthquake experience.

Any rock n'roll fans here? If so, try Motley Crue's 'Carnival of Sins' concert DVD. Tommy Lee's solo sounds really good. Steady bass pounding will definately test your system. The soundtrack is avilable in DD 5.1 and DTS.

the best LFE track I have ever heard is from a movie called "live from baghdad" the one with michael keaton. The night shelling scene is unreal.

...The Incredibles. I didn't discover this until one day while I was sitting on the toilet.
Thanks for sharing. :rolleyes:

the best LFE track I have ever heard is from a movie called "live from baghdad" the one with michael keaton. The night shelling scene is unreal.

WiFi are you serious? I ask because I know in addition to dvd you also dvhs setup correct?

So "live from bagdad" dvd LFE track beats WOTW, DTS Haunting, U571, Master and Commander, Saving Private Ryan, Incredibles, Man on Fire and all dvhs DTS/DD tracks you have heard?

I may have to buy this!

I didn't discover this until one day while I was setting on the toilet.


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Ian :D

Any rock n'roll fans here? If so, try Motley Crue's 'Carnival of Sins' concert DVD. Tommy Lee's solo sounds really good. Steady bass pounding will definately test your system. The soundtrack is avilable in DD 5.1 and DTS.
I've been looking for a reason to buy this one. Other than the solo how is the overal sound. The last MC I bought was "Lewd Crewd Tatooed" and the sound wasn't anything to brag about, same goes for the show.

Butterfly Efect ,Boogeyman

I agree with boogeyman, decent bass, but I thought the movie sucked ASH! ... I mean when they showed how the boogey man looked like... I was like wth! he isn't scary.. he looks like a plastic batman hehe

Harry Potter Goblit of Fire. Just got my PB10 so I wanted to take it easy the first few days but it shook the whole couch NICE

I don't think this was mentioned but "The Jackal" with Bruce Willis will give a good sound system some work.

Walk the Line has some pretty solid bass.

I'm wondering how King Kong is going to be when it's released on DVD in a few weeks? It mopped the floor over War of the Worlds on Oscar nite winning all the critical catagories including Achievement in Sound Mixing, Achievement in Sound Editing, and Achievement in Visual Effects...will it supplant WotW as the new "King" of LFE?

doubt it! WOTW has these pods that takes a LONG time to get out of the ground, and all that bass that comes with it!

King Kong just stomps and jumps here and there, maybe it will get more impact but not extension IMO.

I've been looking for a reason to buy this one. Other than the solo how is the overal sound. The last MC I bought was "Lewd Crewd Tatooed" and the sound wasn't anything to brag about, same goes for the show.

The overall sound is pretty tight. I also have Lewd. Blows it away. Mixed at a higher level. Surrounds are used more definingly. At one point you can hear a fan yell for Mick from behind/right. Chilling. The video looks great too. This DVD is pretty true to the concert experience. Just like being front row without the pushing and spilled beer.

Just watched the movie One Hour Photo. It has the loudest bass I've ever heard. Louder than WOTW or anything else I've seen. I had to turn my Omni S12 WAY down. It's not low though. Probably in the 20's, possibly 30's. It's built into the ambience of the movie, not effects which really takes away from it.

The overall sound is pretty tight. I also have Lewd. Blows it away. Mixed at a higher level. Surrounds are used more definingly. At one point you can hear a fan yell for Mick from behind/right. Chilling. The video looks great too. This DVD is pretty true to the concert experience. Just like being front row without the pushing and spilled beer.

Thanks jpark89,
I'll have to take a drive and go pick this one up. Lewd was pretty disappointing soundwise, it was just mixed to forward for me and the bass was lacking.

I'm wondering how King Kong is going to be when it's released on DVD in a few weeks? It mopped the floor over War of the Worlds on Oscar nite winning all the critical catagories including Achievement in Sound Mixing, Achievement in Sound Editing, and Achievement in Visual Effects...will it supplant WotW as the new "King" of LFE?

I just watched that tonight and while Kong has some decent bass it isn't nearly as low as War of the Worlds.... Dr Octopus in Spiderman 2 has deeper bass in his footsteps but i'm not complaining as i thought the sound mix in Kong was excellent and it had plenty of surround activity and it also had several very good bassy moments ( just not as bassy as some movies )

I don't get these people who watch a movie just for the bass but ignore other aspects of a film ( i won't watch a bad movie just for bass content )

I don't get these people who watch a movie just for the bass but ignore other aspects of a film ( i won't watch a bad movie just for bass content )

Then how did you know about how good the bass was in War of the Worlds ? Oh ,I'm sorry ,you already told us you didn't inhale. ;) :D

Art

I actually liked WoTW and found it entertaining. ;)

Then how did you know about how good the bass was in War of the Worlds ? Oh ,I'm sorry ,you already told us you didn't inhale. ;) :D

Art

I liked that movie :)

Whisper it but i even liked the remake of The Haunting and Van Helsing.

I just watched that tonight and while Kong has some decent bass it isn't nearly as low as War of the Worlds.... Dr Octopus in Spiderman 2 has deeper bass in his footsteps but i'm not complaining as i thought the sound mix in Kong was excellent and it had plenty of surround activity and it also had several very good bassy moments ( just not as bassy as some movies )

I don't get these people who watch a movie just for the bass but ignore other aspects of a film ( i won't watch a bad movie just for bass content )
I just finished King Kong. I thought the bass was outstanding. It wasn't as low as WOTW but it was low and loud and it persited throughout the entire 3hr movie. There's really not great spot in the movie that's low and loud as the pods in WOTW or the tank scene in Nemo but good lord, it goes from boat motors to crashing boats to giant gorillas to dinosaurs seamlessly. The bass never lets up in Kong. If I just bought a new subwoofer and wanted to test it with 1 movie, this would be it. Plus, it's way better than WOTW.

I was a bit disappointed in the special effects though. The dinosaur stampede towards the middle was a complete disappointment. The people didn't even seem to be in the same scene as the dinosaurs.

The Haunting DTS is still the craziest I ever heard. I played it for a guy after installing his system who had two velodyne SPL series and full range vienna acoustics all the way around. The pressure in the room is crazy for that. I do have to say that a lot of this has to do with the system you have. I will say one of the most impressive I ever heard was only because to this day I still haven't heard it done on any other sub including when I originally heard it in the theater but on jurassic park when the T-rex first shows. Before you ever see the T-rex or even realize its coming you can feel its steps. They are so low that I had never heard them until I was setting up a system for a customer that had a REL stadium. I am sure other subs can produce it but I have never set up a system with such a nice sub since. Dont come by too many $3000 subs. You just start to feel the T-rex coming and then finally you see the glass with the water rippling where you know something is coming. but you feel the Rex before you see it.

What about Pearl Harbour ? Does that film contain any deep bass in it ?

--Sincerely,

Sorry If I'm going off-topic, but I'm looking for an excellent demo disk, one that has incredibly deep bass and great surround sound pans, front to back, lots of ambient information. As a test sequence for family and friends.

Is there a disk ? I have Master and Commander, all the Matrix films and Star Wars films, but I'm looking for something else. I don't have "The Haunting", but I mentioned Pearl Harbour because it looks like it could be an incredible disk overall.

--Sincerely,

Sorry If I'm going off-topic, but I'm looking for an excellent demo disk, one that has incredibly deep bass and great surround sound pans, front to back, lots of ambient information. As a test sequence for family and friends.

Is there a disk ? I have Master and Commander, all the Matrix films and Star Wars films, but I'm looking for something else. I don't have "The Haunting", but I mentioned Pearl Harbour because it looks like it could be an incredible disk overall.

--Sincerely,

House of Flying Daggers - Echo Game sequence till the end of the duel

Matrix Reloaded - first scene out of building falling towards ground (lots of scenes with bass and surround pans in this one)

War of the Worlds - lightning scene (lightning behind you), then first tripod out of ground and zapping people

Harry Potter & Chamber of Secrets - rogue bludger match for great surround sound and lots of bass

The Incredibles - jungle chase sequence

Probably mentioned a ton of times, but LOTR FOTR enhanced edition DTS ES Discrete track put my Hsu VTF3 to work. I already have the non-enhanced versions, but am Netlixing the enhanced versions just to hear the DTS tracks. Can't wait to see the rest of the trilogy.

Probably mentioned a ton of times, but LOTR FOTR enhanced edition DTS ES Discrete track put my Hsu VTF3 to work. I already have the non-enhanced versions, but am Netlixing the enhanced versions just to hear the DTS tracks. Can't wait to see the rest of the trilogy.

Whilst i thought i detected a difference between the dts and Dolby tracks on FOTR i can tell you the difference is zero on The Two Towers..... indeed before compensating in my amplifier i found the Dolby version of The Two Towers to be slightly louder bass but once you adjust levels its identical.... when Helm's deep blows your ears might as well :)

Thanks for sharing

Anything I can do to help you guys visualize my experience! I'm sorry I don't have a picture, but Mailliang's cartoon does give you a good representation of my experience.

close encounters of the third kind when
the screws are backing out of the floor
vent.

Whilst i thought i detected a difference between the dts and Dolby tracks on FOTR i can tell you the difference is zero on The Two Towers..... indeed before compensating in my amplifier i found the Dolby version of The Two Towers to be slightly louder bass but once you adjust levels its identical.... when Helm's deep blows your ears might as well :)

I just received in the mail Dolby Labs brand new demo dvd with several film demo's and I must agree that the .1 portions of the 5.1 mix are very powerful, there are two or three lotr demo's that have very deep bass, in fact the whole demo disc is very bass strong. The entry to each clip has incredible bass, house shaking in fact. There is also some very good demo material that Dolby has put together on the disc that is very bass heavy (not meaning over done) and the video is first rate.

The Haunting DTS is still the craziest I ever heard. I played it for a guy after installing his system who had two velodyne SPL series and full range vienna acoustics all the way around. The pressure in the room is crazy for that. I do have to say that a lot of this has to do with the system you have. I will say one of the most impressive I ever heard was only because to this day I still haven't heard it done on any other sub including when I originally heard it in the theater but on jurassic park when the T-rex first shows. Before you ever see the T-rex or even realize its coming you can feel its steps. They are so low that I had never heard them until I was setting up a system for a customer that had a REL stadium. I am sure other subs can produce it but I have never set up a system with such a nice sub since. Dont come by too many $3000 subs. You just start to feel the T-rex coming and then finally you see the glass with the water rippling where you know something is coming. but you feel the Rex before you see it. That would be correct if I use "that scene" from the "Greta Adventure" CD,the track called Jurrasic Lunch. which has real content down to 5hz, the actual movie soundtrack is not even close to that.
JP is not a real contender with today's soundtracks anymore.

http://www.videophile.info/Graphs/JP/JP_01.htm

Take a look at graph 4 to compare JP to Titan A. E. which isn't a new title either, you'll see the difference.
JP once was a king, now just a subject to the crown . ;)

Sustained:

Blade 2 - opening chapter where Nomak(?) is walking down a corridor, in the background begins to build up slowly very low freq. The only dvd sound that I have seen "upset" the sunfire True Sub

Fantasic Four - chpt 24. "To Be Ben Grimm Again" When the machine is running to turn Ben back into human form. A friend uses the Sunfire True Sub. He keeps a round tin full of lead on top of it to keep it from moving around. This is the only scene so far that shook so much the tin slid off of the sub and fell to the floor.

A good blast in the chest:

Finding Nemo - 25. "Darla!"

U-571 - chpt 15 "Depth-Charged"

Darren

>I just received in the mail Dolby Labs brand new demo dvd

Can you buy discs like this? How do we get our hands on them?

If you have HDnet the show Nothing But Trailers has some great Bass. I think they go a little overboard with there mix.

>I just received in the mail Dolby Labs brand new demo dvd

Can you buy discs like this? How do we get our hands on them?

I duno, I just got mine in the mail on Friday from Dolby Labs, I did attend their demo at CES this past January and they did swipe my card so I guess thats why I got it. It has several movie clips and a couple of clips Dolby has made as will as two music only cuts. The bass is very good on this disc.

I searched HDnet for trailers, nada. Got a link?

Is this what the disc looks like? Apparently you can buy a Dolby Demo Disc for $5 from this link http://ferradoylegroup.com/dolby/dol302.html

http://ferradoylegroup.com/dolby/images/dol302.jpg

Anyone else seen the content on this disc and care to give a review?

Is this what the disc looks like? Apparently you can buy a Dolby Demo Disc for $5 from this link http://ferradoylegroup.com/dolby/dol302.html

http://ferradoylegroup.com/dolby/images/dol302.jpg

Anyone else seen the content on this disc and care to give a review?

No thats not it, let me get a photo of it and a track listing for you. I think this is brand new.

>Is this what the disc looks like? Apparently you can buy a Dolby Demo Disc for $5 from this link

I went to the link- $5 + almost $9 for shipping! It's worse than ebay.....

Still waiting for more (any!) reviews before I throw the money away....

No thats not it, let me get a photo of it and a track listing for you. I think this is brand new.

The name of the disc is: " The Dolby Experience " Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Demo Disc.

Tracks:
Dolby Clips
your world-in action
your world-from space

Cinema Clips
house of flying daggers
the lord of the rings: the two towers (1)
spider man
2 fast 2 furious
the lord of the rings: the two towers (2)
hulk
spider man 2
the chronicles of riddick
the lord of the rings: the return of the king

Game Trailers
project gotham racing 3
perfect dark zero

Music Videos
spencer day: movie of your life
san francisco symphony: stravinsky's firebird suite

The disc is very good, the video is outstanding, the sound very good, extremely bass heavy (especially the dolby entry to each track).

Sounds good, but where's the link?

Look 8 posts back.

Yes, but merv43 said, "that's not it." Is the link in rdwalt's post the one we're talking about here?

I was talking about the post that is now 10 posts back that says you cannot buy the disk merv is talking about. They sent it to him because he went to their demo at CES.

Chicken Little had some good bass moments. Especially when the attack happens. Not in the same league as WOTW, but probably the funniest animation movie I've ever seen. Great to see with the kids.

Anyone mention
HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS - the blind girl dancing in the "echo game".

Anyone mention
HOUSE OF FLYING DAGGERS - the blind girl dancing in the "echo game".

If no one else did, I know I did. I have full bit-rate DTS R3 versions - amazing sound, for both bass and surround sound!
Here was me:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7334035&#post7334035

I'll add this one, although it's probably on here already.
The Lion King, with the special remixed audio, is simply amazing. There's plenty of bass, with a ton of surround effects and great music. We watched it this afternoon at -10 and it sounded great.

If no one else did, I know I did. I have full bit-rate DTS R3 versions - amazing sound, for both bass and surround sound!
Here was me:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7334035&#post7334035

I'll add this one, although it's probably on here already.
The Lion King, with the special remixed audio, is simply amazing. There's plenty of bass, with a ton of surround effects and great music. We watched it this afternoon at -10 and it sounded great.


also I Robot with Will Smith, great surround and pretty good bass.

The name of the disc is: " The Dolby Experience " Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround Demo Disc.

Tracks:
Dolby Clips
your world-in action
your world-from space

Cinema Clips
house of flying daggers
the lord of the rings: the two towers (1)
spider man
2 fast 2 furious
the lord of the rings: the two towers (2)
hulk
spider man 2
the chronicles of riddick
the lord of the rings: the return of the king

Game Trailers
project gotham racing 3
perfect dark zero

Music Videos
spencer day: movie of your life
san francisco symphony: stravinsky's firebird suite

The disc is very good, the video is outstanding, the sound very good, extremely bass heavy (especially the dolby entry to each track).
Just wanted to ring in here -- there are a number of demo discs that have been created by fellow AVSers. We're up to about 14 now I think. Check out this LINK (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7200060&&#post7200060) for download info. A majority of the movie chapters mentioned in this thread are included on these discs. You can download a summary of all the demo DVDs HERE (http://blaze.gotdns.com/demos/).

Is this what the disc looks like? Apparently you can buy a Dolby Demo Disc for $5 from this link http://ferradoylegroup.com/dolby/dol302.html

http://ferradoylegroup.com/dolby/images/dol302.jpg

Anyone else seen the content on this disc and care to give a review?

This DVD has Dolby trailers, about 9 of them. Like the quick ones you see before watching a Digital surround movie at the theater. And a pink noise surround setup portion. That is it. I was disappointed. Although, with the issues found regarding both the AVIA and DVE setup DVD's (for sound setup). It is worth it to me (5 bucks) to have a 3rd opinion so to speak. Definately not worth anything to most. Unless you want some HQ trailers before starting your dvd on an HTPC.

Darren

Here's a big BUMP from my VTF-3 to resurrect this thread from the dead.

So, what's come out since April that has house-crumbling bass?

You didn't say they had to be good....

Creep
Poseidon
Silent Hill
Final Destination3
Running Scared
The Hills Have Eyes
V for Vendeta

I know there's more house crumbling movies, but all I can think of

Here's a big BUMP from my VTF-3 to resurrect this thread from the dead.

WOW! Now we have two threads about house crumbling bass! Welcome back! :D


Ian

A few pages back I got flack for saying final destination 3 has great bass. I hope the people who think it sucks should at least watch it before commenting (trolling)

I just watched v for vendetta last night after installing my shakers, it had tons of explosions and good bass scenes.

Final destination 3 had some unique bass moments in the first chapter I think. But that was pretty much it. Playing that roller coster scene at reference level was pretty intense for family and friends.

If this disk has already been added to the list then forgive me, but Finding Nemo, I thought, was outstanding in several scenes.

As for future releases, I'm really hoping that Superman Returns has some great bass.

--Sincerely,

It's neat seeing a thread I started generate 14 pages, since my usual posts are of the annoying "what do you guys think of brand x?" variety.
Here's a movie for you: my wife was at the video rental place, and they were clearing out some old stock. She looked through the stuff and picked up a few that the discs weren't trashed. One of the movies she got was a bad thriller called "Unspeakable" with Dennis Hopper. Holy crap, this is a bad movie, and HOLY CRAP is there some plaster cracking bass in the first 15 or so minutes! A keeper just for the ridiculously overdone LFE. Check it out some night you're in the mood for a cheesy occult thriller that will send your housepets running for cover.

For more detail, please check out the Master List Thread here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8971042#post8971042

I will be ONLY Updating the Master List Thread from now on.

I can't help but to wonder if room modes personal taste,& type of sub or subs being used isn't playing a big part on how some are perceiving loud or low bass here. I see so many post that one person will say that movie X has the lowest, loudest, teeth rattling bass they ever heard & they thought that there walls were going to be blown down. But than after that they say they cant believe there 12" Velo CHT could do that & live through it. Than another person comes in to say that movie 2X has twice the bass of movie X & it's the best they have ever heard.
Any way to get to my point, & just to clear things up I'm not trying to pick on anyone or change the direction of the thread. But I have most of the movies menchioned in this thread that I do agree have some very good bass in them. But I also I several different movies that I have seen menchioned that have very good bass to them but not extent that some will describe. Or another point the this movie kills the bass in that movie argument. There have been several times I will see someone say OMG you have to hear ch 23 in movie 2X where the earth gets split in two by a super ray nuke bomb, I thought it was really happening I've never heard bass like that. But than I'll go check it out & I'm like that was it, where is the insane bass they were talking about, I felt something but I had to rewind to make sure it wasn't just me farting or something. But than I throw in a movie they were comparing it to & think holly crap what were they thinking that has some bass. And I don't think my sub is no slouch either, nor am I trying to say that anyone else's is. But rather I think it is funny how wide the perception of good, low, loud, or how ever you care to describe it bass is.

I was thinking the same thing as I read through the 14 pages. Glad the thread got started and want to thank everyone for the suggestions on movies to watch with deep bass.

As they say, " Contentment is Destroyed by Comparison". When you only have heard a system with one Hsu/Velodyne/SVS/whatever 12" woofer with a whopping 300 watts on it, then that is your reference. Everybody enjoy their systems,,,,that's the main thing.....keeps us out of trouble. ;)

Everybody enjoy their systems,,,,that's the main thing.....keeps us out of trouble. ;)

Yup. Systems are like Wives. Enjoy your own and stop drooling over mine. :D

Movies with house crumbling bass is certainly LESS subjective than whether a movie sucks or not. Example: Most chic flix.

Didn't want to get throttled for posting in the other bass thread....

Gingerdead man. One of the reviews said "Gary Busey must have owed somebody money"

My son and friends rented this, your classic "B" movie. The bass was enough to bring in from the garage. A few scenes very strong in the 22Hz range!

I watched Tokyo Drift tonight with some friends (the regular DVD version) at -8dB, and it's the first movie that has managed to overheat my bass shaker stereo receiver. It cut out during the race where they drive through the crowd of scrambling people in Tokyo. The subs were very active throughout the movie and there was some good low frequency material as well. Definitely a movie that deserves to be played loud.

I watched it last night also.

I was hoping for low end from special effects(car crashes etc).The constant low end was from an over cooked music sound track.

Yup. Systems are like Wives. Enjoy your own and stop drooling over mine. :D
NO...no...no.....You meant to say systems are like wives.....eventually you will have to upgrade both :D

Tomorrow is dvd release day...YIPEEE! And it's Xmen 3's DVD debut!!!

(crickets....)

Oh well, I thought the movie sucked, but I'm still gonna get it. There's gonna be 3 different versions being released (4 if u include the box set):
- Wide Screen
- Full Screen
- Stan Lee's Collector's Edition

What's the Collector's Edition all about??? Is this the one w/ the 3 alternate endings?

Just watched two scenes of X3 and it rocks!!!!!. I saw the simulated battle in the begining of the movie and the bass was very impressive. I also watched the bridge being moved scene and it is close to War of Worlds robot rising scene if not better I really could not turn it up that loud because of my 2 week old sleeping. I watch in the DTS-ES version. I would love to see a waterfall off some of these scenes.

Just watched two scenes of X3 and it rocks!!!!!. I saw the simulated battle in the begining of the movie and the bass was very impressive. I also watched the bridge being moved scene and it is close to War of Worlds robot rising scene if not better I really could not turn it up that loud because of my 2 week old sleeping. I watch in the DTS-ES version. I would love to see a waterfall off some of these scenes.

Juggernaut running through the Arkhym wall swas pretty impressive.

Theres a Top Gun SE???

Anamorphic, with DD and DTS at that.
Released a year or so ago.

That would be correct if I use "that scene" from the "Greta Adventure" CD,the track called Jurrasic Lunch. which has real content down to 5hz, the actual movie soundtrack is not even close to that.
JP is not a real contender with today's soundtracks anymore.


Take a look at graph 4 to compare JP to Titan A. E. which isn't a new title either, you'll see the difference.
JP once was a king, now just a subject to the crown . ;)


Couldn't agree more. Had JP in DD for a while and thought the reason it sucked was because it wasn't the DTS version. Just got the DTS version yesterday and, while a bit better than the DD version, it just can't compete with the other bass-heavy movies out there. The bitrate was only pushing out 4-5 Mbps, compare that to something like The Incredibles where it's over 10Mbps and it's no surprise. I wonder if the rare Superbit JP DVD would make a difference. :o

Oh, just remembered one of my favs. X-men 2... any scene where the dam is crumbling.

The audio bitrate in JP: DTS is higher than the Incredibles' Dolby Digital, isn't it? The combined bitrate of JP might only be 4-5Mbps but the DTS track is fixed at 768Kbps.

The "T-Rex breaks out" scene is still one of my favorites for in-your-face bass. I don't think it digs all that deep, but the throat rumblings and roars are pretty good IMHO.

On the DTS Jurassic Park I have, the bass is MUCH hotter on the DTS version than the DD on that and the DD version in the 3-pack special release. (specifically the drums in the opening of the film)

>The "T-Rex breaks out" scene is still one of my favorites for in-your-face bass. I don't think it digs all that deep, but the throat rumblings and roars are pretty good IMHO. <

That scene is great for viewing with your sub on, and then again with the sub off. It's amazing how much throaty growl you lose. This was the first scene I viewed with my Mirage S-12 when it arrived, and the growls were very much enhanced over my previous set-up. Very cool.

Couldn't agree more. Had JP in DD for a while and thought the reason it sucked was because it wasn't the DTS version. Just got the DTS version yesterday and, while a bit better than the DD version, it just can't compete with the other bass-heavy movies out there. The bitrate was only pushing out 4-5 Mbps, compare that to something like The Incredibles where it's over 10Mbps and it's no surprise. I wonder if the rare Superbit JP DVD would make a difference. :o

The bitrate of the audio/video really doesn't make much difference to the .1 channel. It just depends on how it was mixed.

The bitrate of the audio/video really doesn't make much difference to the .1 channel. It just depends on how it was mixed.

(To Pradeep)
Mixing is only half the story. You can't have a good soundtrack without a good mix and a good transfer. The first parts of the frequency spectrum that start to get lost after compression sets in are the bass and the tremble. So, yes, the bitrate would affect the bass. You can't mix a decent subwoofer track, run the soundtrack at 50Kbs (just an example) and still expect it to still sound decent can you?

(Not to Pradeep)
Check out this link for some interesting info on just how "deep" the JP DVD soundtrack goes. I've got a pretty major room mode at about 25hz (which isn't necessarily a good thing), so it's pretty easy to tell when a movie doesn't have any deep bass. If you think JP has good bass, then perhaps you should take the Bose route and rename that "subwoofer" of yours a "bass module".

http://www.videophile.info/Graphs/JP/JP_01.htm

The audio bitrate in JP: DTS is higher than the Incredibles' Dolby Digital, isn't it? The combined bitrate of JP might only be 4-5Mbps but the DTS track is fixed at 768Kbps.

The "T-Rex breaks out" scene is still one of my favorites for in-your-face bass. I don't think it digs all that deep, but the throat rumblings and roars are pretty good IMHO.

I do still like the scene but was dissapointed to hear that the soundtrack seems a bit dated. Concerning the 768 bitrate (I thought DVDs were limited to 640Kbps, or is that just Dolby Digital?), just because something's passing through the system at that rate, it doesn't mean that the soundtrack is taking full advantage of it. A bad source is still a bad source, whether it's 768Kbps or 20Mbps. Otherwise, dvds would all look and sound the same (respective to their formats, granted), wouldn't they? The thought that DTS is always going to sound better than DD is a bit of a pipe dream (lemme take a moment to say I am HUGE DTS fan). But, there are plently of DD DVDs that sound better than certain DTS DVDs, sadly enough; The Incredibles vs. JP is just one example. Also, I have a hunch that the JP DVD is not even using that full 768 bitrate considering the low overall transfer, but there are plently of factors involved that could be responsible for the less-than-stellar sound.

Obviously at 50kbit/sec things are going to sound like turd all over the frequency range. What I was trying to say is that even a 768kbit/sec DTS track on the Die Hard series DVDs doesn't make up for the fact that there was never any real infrasonics mixed into the soundtrack. The Incredibles sounds great bass-wise even at 384kb/sec.

There are a few (rare) DVDs that have a full bitrate 1.5Mbit/sec DTS soundtrack.

Oh... Well, yeah, you're right. I suppose Jurassic Park might have never had any decent bass in it, but that just seems depressing... and just wrong in general!!! That might sound like a bit of a hyperbole, but while I was building my sub, I had every intention of running out and getting the DTS Jurassic Park so that it would be the first thing I could test my sub out on. The first dissapointment was that it was OOP, the second (when I finally got it almost a year after finishing the sub) was the soundtrack itself. I never really thought that it might be just a poor master in general, but I guess things have changed in the past 13 years. I'm still pretty bummed about it. I was expecting to recreate that first exhilirating, uber-sonic experience that we all got with DTS when we first watched Jurassic Park back on June 11, 1993 (maybe later for some :) ) but all I got was what now sounds like a dated soundtrack :(

Got the same experience with the DTS version of Terminator 2, but my expectations for that one weren't nearly as high.

There was a problem with the initial release of the DTS version of Jurassic Park on DVD, they ended up releasing a "fixed" version IIRC.

Does anyone know what the difference is between X3 widescreen and X3 Stan Lee Edition is? Only difference I see from amazon is that the Stan Lee edition has a mini-comic. Is that it? I'm paying an extra $10 for a comic book?

Theres a Top Gun SE???

I have Top Gun in Superbit with a DTS track. It has LOTS of bass in it.

-Eli

Does anyone know what the difference is between X3 widescreen and X3 Stan Lee Edition is? Only difference I see from amazon is that the Stan Lee edition has a mini-comic. Is that it? I'm paying an extra $10 for a comic book?I saw both at Squal-mart and, yes, you are paying $10 for a comic book. The standard version has DD and DTS as well as the 3 endings. There may be more special features, but who watches those anyway. It does have a nicer box. :)

I have Top Gun in Superbit with a DTS track. It has LOTS of bass in it.

-Eli

I have the DTS Top Gun, but it doesn't say anything about being Superbit. Is there a Superbit version too?

I have the DTS Top Gun, but it doesn't say anything about being Superbit. Is there a Superbit version too?I don't think there is, at least it's not listed on http://www.sonypictures.com/cthe/superbit/catalog.html.

The Incredibles sounds great bass-wise even at 384kb/sec.

I haven't seen the DVD yet but the LFE definitely came through off StarzHD - I would actually put that in my top 5 sub moves so far (only had my svs ~6 months)

An American Haunting. Lots of scary bass, but a silly plot.

Ian :D

MI:3, great moments like when the guy is getting the helicopter started just before they attack the factory building, when they are flying amongst the wind turbines, the missile impacts, the attack on the causeway and right at the very end, when he's in the Chinese pharmacy.

MI:3, great moments like when the guy is getting the helicopter started just before they attack the factory building, when they are flying amongst the wind turbines, the missile impacts, the attack on the causeway and right at the very end, when he's in the Chinese pharmacy.

Sweet, I was hoping that movie would have a good soundtrack.

Theres a Top Gun SE???


I have Top Gun in Superbit with a DTS track. It has LOTS of bass in it.
It's a bootleg, typo or not a region 1 dvd. Top Gun is owned by Paramount who doesn't do Superbit in the US. Superbit is a Sony/Columbia Tri Star owned property.

The "Superman Returns" DVD has very impressive sound. The earthquake scenes have terrific bass. This won't be officially released until the end of November, but it is one to watch for.

MI:3, great moments like when the guy is getting the helicopter started just before they attack the factory building, when they are flying amongst the wind turbines, the missile impacts, the attack on the causeway and right at the very end, when he's in the Chinese pharmacy.http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8821225#post8821225

Monster House....

Great low end bass throughout the movie.

It's pretty good too!

"Lord Of War" has some incredible .1 action. :p

towards the beginning of the film, when that "factory made bullet" hits the kid in the head. WOW! Very deep. My dog got mad at me and left the room after that scene - scared him out of his wits.

I love it when low freq channels are so deep! (when they're being used appropriately of course, but that's a whole other topic.)

You should try Star Trek Nemesis, it has some truly awesome space ship battle scenes, perfect for low shaking bass.

Don't talk to me about Star Trek Nemesis !!. When that Thaeleron generator started up, it ripped the cone from the surround on my trusty old sub.!!!

Don't talk to me about Star Trek Nemesis !!. When that Thaeleron generator started up, it ripped the cone from the surround on my trusty old sub.!!!

What sub was that?

Boston Acoustics.. twin cone Passive...

Boston Acoustics.. twin cone Passive...

Sorry to hear that it broke your sub. What sub did you get to replace it?

Flight of the Phoenix - DTS

The scene where they fly through the sand storm...I use this to show off my SVS 20-39 PCi! It is just constant for 5 minutes or so. And the blowing sand shows off the rear FX as well.

Flight of the Phoenix - DTS

The scene where they fly through the sand storm...I use this to show off my SVS 20-39 PCi! It is just constant for 5 minutes or so. And the blowing sand shows off the rear FX as well.

Great sub, I have the 25-31(tuned to 22hz). Good movie to show off it's stuff.

Take a look at the list of movies on page 14. Lots of movies to highlight your sub.

Sorry to hear that it broke your sub. What sub did you get to replace it?

I replaced the old BA sub with a Richter Thor Mk.1V (Aussie made) and recognized generally in OZ as a good sub.
!2" driver with long throw surround..
I've since tried it with the same ST movie and it handled that scene effortlessly..

Ice Age 2 : The Meltdown

You should try Star Trek Nemesis, it has some truly awesome space ship battle scenes, perfect for low shaking bass.

What chapter is that?

Deja vu will when it comes out.. :D

I Compiled a list from the 2 threads about subwoofer movies.

The other thread is here: Subwoofer movies that Don't suck? (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8391074#post8391074) and a new one The Best Surround on a DVD... (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8826733#post8826733) It's all subjective :p

(~300 DVDs snipped)

Not to be ungrateful, but a list of 300 movies is hardly a list at all. First because it's just too many and second because it doesn't tell us why or where.

For example, and realize these aren't necessarily reference scenes, just an example of what we could assemble that would be useful...

Best Sub/Transducer Rattling Exposions
Scenes that provide an isolated work-out of the low-end, and can be taken out of context.
1. Hitchhikers Guide - Marvin fires the perception gun, Scene xx
2. Die Hard III, Movie Introduction. New York blows up
3. Men In Black, Scene 26. The saucer crashes in front of J & K
4. ...
5. ...

Best Sub/Transducer Show-Off Scenes
Scenes that the viewer will be familiar with and enjoy, but that may not be the best-in-class. For example, the Matrix makes the list not because the sound is good, but because everyone knows the scene and the sound is decent.
1. The Fifth Element, SuperBit, Scene 22: Leeloo vs Mangalores gun battle with opera
2. The Matrix, Scene 29: Lobby Shooting Scene
3. Robots, Rollercoaster Scene
4. ...
5. ...

Best Full-Audio DVDs
1. The Fifth Element, SuperBit, Scene 21: Diva does Opera
2. Brian Wilson / Beach Boys
...

and of course we could do the same thing for the top for other categories, ideally no more than 10 DVDs per category and a maximum of, say, 3 from a genre. (For example, only 3 sci-fi or only 3 horror in "best explosions", so that we get better representation of what regular people watch.)

That would be far more useful to me than a list of 300 DVDs, with no sense of what they're actually good at and which are best at it. If a movie had several great scenes in one category, perhaps list of to three of them on the one listing for that DVD.

The trouble would be how to rate the poll for these!

Not to be ungrateful, but a list of 300 movies is hardly a list at all. First because it's just too many and second because it doesn't tell us why or where.

For example, and realize these aren't necessarily reference scenes, just an example of what we could assemble that would be useful...

Best Sub/Transducer Rattling Exposions
Scenes that provide an isolated work-out of the low-end, and can be taken out of context.
1. Hitchhikers Guide - Marvin fires the perception gun, Scene xx
2. Die Hard III, Movie Introduction. New York blows up
3. Men In Black, Scene 26. The saucer crashes in front of J & K
4. ...
5. ...

Best Sub/Transducer Show-Off Scenes
Scenes that the viewer will be familiar with and enjoy, but that may not be the best-in-class. For example, the Matrix makes the list not because the sound is good, but because everyone knows the scene and the sound is decent.
1. The Fifth Element, SuperBit, Scene 22: Leeloo vs Mangalores gun battle with opera
2. The Matrix, Scene 29: Lobby Shooting Scene
3. Robots, Rollercoaster Scene
4. ...
5. ...

Best Full-Audio DVDs
1. The Fifth Element, SuperBit, Scene 21: Diva does Opera
2. Brian Wilson / Beach Boys
...

and of course we could do the same thing for the top for other categories, ideally no more than 10 DVDs per category and a maximum of, say, 3 from a genre. (For example, only 3 sci-fi or only 3 horror in "best explosions", so that we get better representation of what regular people watch.)

That would be far more useful to me than a list of 300 DVDs, with no sense of what they're actually good at and which are best at it. If a movie had several great scenes in one category, perhaps list of to three of them on the one listing for that DVD.

The trouble would be how to rate the poll for these!


go for it... I'd be willing to help and get it going

I for one am appreciative of the time and effort that Dr Pain put into that list.

Technocat, Yes, a more thorough list with exact scenes would be nice, but also it would take a very long tome to compile. If you read through the two above listed posts just about everytime someone mentions a movie they descibe which scenes had the bass in it. The info is here it would just take time. Pick the movies you own or would like to own and do a search on them and find the scenes with the bass. Best of luck. If you do take the time to put together a more complete list, that would be great and I am sure greatly appreciated by many.

Technocat, Yes, a more thorough list with exact scenes would be nice, but also it would take a very long tome to compile. If you read through the two above listed posts just about everytime someone mentions a movie they descibe which scenes had the bass in it. I want your computer monitor. Mine is displaying the other version of the above-referenced threads, where some messages state the scene and possibly why they think the movie qualifies, but most just say things like "Master And Commander" or even "Sky Captain has tons of bass".

Anyhow, that said, I will start such a list, both to get the scenes and reasons down and also to add different types of exercise - e.g. sub-woofer, full-range, color, motion, etc.

I made the list on a whim, not knowing someday it would come to this.

If all the movies listed had some reference to a chapter that would have been awesome and required alot more effort, but I would have done it. It just would have taken more time.

I can't watch all the movies mentioned so I could'nt make a reference to a scene. Thats alot of time! So I'm willing to take on the task of compling such a detailed list as TechnoCat mentioned.

I for one am appreciative of the time and effort that Dr Pain put into that list.

Technocat, Yes, a more thorough list with exact scenes would be nice, but also it would take a very long tome to compile. If you read through the two above listed posts just about everytime someone mentions a movie they descibe which scenes had the bass in it. The info is here it would just take time. Pick the movies you own or would like to own and do a search on them and find the scenes with the bass. Best of luck. If you do take the time to put together a more complete list, that would be great and I am sure greatly appreciated by many.

thank you bsheldon for your kind words, and I wish I could have done a better job to serve you and the others.

Gentlemen....

I don't want to add a further burden to your generous offers of compiling a list of movies for subwoofers....but there is something that I personally would like to see included in that list...

There are countless movies that have good explosive bass sounds, but for the most part these are not VERY LOW subwoofer frequencies...
I find that there are very few movies that have any real bass extensions...I'm talking about below 25Htz...and if possible, I think that would be of great benefit for anyone who wants to really hear how good (or bad) their sub is..

One that comes to mind is the oppening battle scene in SW3...There are some deep harmonics in that scene...

Perhaps a seperate list for explosion type bass, and a list of any movies that you know off with very low frequencies..

Thanks for your input...
Prof..

That's a great idea, Prof. It's sort of what I meant when I had the two categories above of...
Best Sub/Transducer Rattling Exposions
Scenes that provide an isolated work-out of the low-end, and can be taken out of context.
and
Best Sub/Transducer Show-Off Scenes
Scenes that the viewer will be familiar with and enjoy, but that may not be the best-in-class. For example, the Matrix makes the list not because the sound is good, but because everyone knows the scene and the sound is decent.
but you put it better.

TechnoCat,

If I may make a further suggestion...I think this whole idea could be simplified by opening up a Poll to members, to put in say....

The Best 3 DVD's they have in their collection that has strong explosive type bass..and The Best 3 DVD's that have very low extended bass..

Admittedly, there will most likely be some who will suggest the same movie, but that should re-instate that it's a good choice..

Maybe something like this has already been done...I don't know, as I'm new to this forum..

Prof..

Monster House....

Great low end bass throughout the movie.

It's pretty good too!

I agree here especially when the house is chasing the kids!

Opening scene in Constatine after the guy finds the knife and is walking towards the road. Now that had the neighbour below pounding on my door to see if everything was okay :-D

so has anything come out that even comes close
to War of the Worlds or Master and Commander?


These 2 are still my benchmarks and for showing off.

Jedi.night--there are several--read through the 16 pages of this thread as well as the many pages of "subwoofer movies that don't suck thread." My favorite show off scenes are the first battle of master and commander, the first machine rising of War of the Worlds, The door knocking and cold scene from the Haunting, Ice field scene from Titan AE, and the Darla scene from Nemo. Yes there are many scenes that are close. However, WOW I think is the king and it probably will stay there for quite some time--it is just so powerful for such a long duration. So is there anything better--not yet nor will there probably be anything that is vastly superior--better perhaps but it will be tough to have a legitimate reason in a film to purposely put that much bass into for it to still make sense.

Gentlemen....

I don't want to add a further burden to your generous offers of compiling a list of movies for subwoofers....but there is something that I personally would like to see included in that list...

There are countless movies that have good explosive bass sounds, but for the most part these are not VERY LOW subwoofer frequencies...
I find that there are very few movies that have any real bass extensions...I'm talking about below 25Htz...and if possible, I think that would be of great benefit for anyone who wants to really hear how good (or bad) their sub is..

One that comes to mind is the oppening battle scene in SW3...There are some deep harmonics in that scene...

Perhaps a seperate list for explosion type bass, and a list of any movies that you know off with very low frequencies..

Thanks for your input...
Prof..

Simple..... on the Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy, the part where Arther Dent is talking to Trillian while she is showering there is a SUSTAINED 5hz or lower sine wave which is increasing and decreasing in volume.

I have NEVER seen any other scene in a movie with such sustained LFE than that one scene. It makes the Earth being blown up scene look like nothing more than a wet fart.

The vast majority of subs will not even register this scene because of a highpass filter, the only reason I heard it was my Rythmik sub had no highpass when I watched it.

I put out a quick survey...Name the best 10-20 scenes of bass, what would they be?

Jedi.night--there are several--read through the 16 pages of this thread as well as the many pages of "subwoofer movies that don't suck thread." My favorite show off scenes are the first battle of master and commander, the first machine rising of War of the Worlds, The door knocking and cold scene from the Haunting, Ice field scene from Titan AE, and the Darla scene from Nemo. Yes there are many scenes that are close. However, WOW I think is the king and it probably will stay there for quite some time--it is just so powerful for such a long duration. So is there anything better--not yet nor will there probably be anything that is vastly superior--better perhaps but it will be tough to have a legitimate reason in a film to purposely put that much bass into for it to still make sense.


yeah, I forgot about the Haunting.

It's a shame some of the newer movies like King Kong don't have as deep LFE
as one would think.
Hopefully superman returns packs a punch, there are a few scenes where I could
imagine it would.

I guess War of the Worlds will remain king for now, with master and commander
a close second.

Simple..... on the Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy, the part where Arther Dent is talking to Trillian while she is showering there is a SUSTAINED 5hz or lower sine wave which is increasing and decreasing in volume.

I have NEVER seen any other scene in a movie with such sustained LFE than that one scene. It makes the Earth being blown up scene look like nothing more than a wet fart.

The vast majority of subs will not even register this scene because of a highpass filter, the only reason I heard it was my Rythmik sub had no highpass when I watched it.

I did see Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, but it was on my old system and everything sounded like a "wet fart"!!
I'll have to get hold of a copy again and see how it sounds on my new system..
I doubt very much though that I would hear, or rather feel 5Hz..

Superman Returns ,

Just watched it last night.LFE that hits deep and hard.I was very surprised in a number of scenes.

Recommended for the LFE junkies(I'm one of them ) :)

Superman Returns ,

Just watched it last night.LFE that hits deep and hard.I was very surprised in a number of scenes.

Recommended for the LFE junkies(I'm one of them ) :)

I just saw Superman Returns as well, and was very impressed with the LFE track as well.

I'd still have to go with the opening train ride scene from Unbreakable. The scene is very short but you'd swear you were riding on that train. Some really low stuff 2 times during the dialogue as another train passes opposite on the tracks and again for the last 30 seconds or so before the scene ends. Really low stuff, I'd guess in the 18-20hz range. I have yet to encounter anything quite that low on a DVD, but please keep the titles coming! My only complaint is that the scene is only a few minutes long.

Really low stuff, I'd guess in the 18-20hz range.
These days, that's borderline treble. ;)

I'd still have to go with the opening train ride scene from Unbreakable. The scene is very short but you'd swear you were riding on that train. Some really low stuff 2 times during the dialogue as another train passes opposite on the tracks and again for the last 30 seconds or so before the scene ends. Really low stuff, I'd guess in the 18-20hz range. I have yet to encounter anything quite that low on a DVD, but please keep the titles coming! My only complaint is that the scene is only a few minutes long.

Actually it's more between 23-25hz. The reason it's so cool[one of my favs as well] because it's subtle enough to just gently shake the couch with no added sound effects, it's almost silent, and you and Bruce reacts almost the same way at the same time like WTF?

TechnoCat,

If I may make a further suggestion...I think this whole idea could be simplified by opening up a Poll to members, to put in say....

The Best 3 DVD's they have in their collection that has strong explosive type bass..and The Best 3 DVD's that have very low extended bass..

Admittedly, there will most likely be some who will suggest the same movie, but that should re-instate that it's a good choice..

Maybe something like this has already been done...I don't know, as I'm new to this forum..

Prof..
You might like this thread then, it actually shows which movie at what scene has real bass, not what people think, which in many case what's happening on this thread.



http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=605496

You might like this thread then, it actually shows which movie at what scene has real bass, not what people think, which in many case what's happening on this thread.



http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=605496

I've been trying to compile a list of scenes,times and movies with more detail than this thread or others like it. Without the waterfalls images getting in the way.

If you have any info please see this thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8971042#post8971042

To me the waterfalls that matter, we have plenty of "lists" as it is.

To me the waterfalls that matter, we have plenty of "lists" as it is.

Maybe it can be for those who are not interested in the waterfalls. I'm not putting down that thread, just trying to make it easier for someone to check out where in a movie they will find a bass scene.

Sorry.

You might like this thread then, it actually shows which movie at what scene has real bass, not what people think, which in many case what's happening on this thread.



http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=605496

Thanks for that...Those are some very interesting plots...
I'll have to check out the titles of the ones that I have..
It looks like Hitchhikers guide to the Galaxy is a real standout in the very low bass region..

Actually it's more between 23-25hz. The reason it's so cool[one of my favs as well] because it's subtle enough to just gently shake the couch with no added sound effects, it's almost silent, and you and Bruce reacts almost the same way at the same time like WTF?

Yup, I feel exactly the same way! Is it really that high in frequency? Maybe my ears are just going bad but I really don't hear the rumble toward the end, just feel it. Oh well.

Preview for Night at the Museum and Matador (first 5 minutes) are very awesome.
Even got my daughter scared, and she's already used to STF-3:)
Recorded on my SA8300HD.

I watched the "House of flying dagger" last weekend after seeing the recommendation here. Well, just saw it till the much touted echo game scene. The surround sound effects were awesome, bit I did not feel the bass as everybody has been raving about. I did choose DTS on the DVD and I'm running my Mirage s12 couple of DBs hotter than my mains. I was seated in the sweet spot from where I had calibrated the system.. What gives??

It's not "deep" like other tracks, but it should be tight and pounding.

How is your frequency response? Does your room have any dips or peaks at the listening position?

If you have say a 6dB dip 10Hz wide around where the bass is hitting for a certain sound or sequence of bass, it won't sound as good as it should.

There's a peak at aroudn 45Hz (+3DB). It starts dropping around 25 Hz. I could feel the deep bass in other movies like LOTR (Fire Dragon scene). Lost in space(Intro). Toy Story 2(intro), but was disappointed with "House of Flying Daggers" as far as bass response.


It's not "deep" like other tracks, but it should be tight and pounding.

How is your frequency response? Does your room have any dips or peaks at the listening position?

If you have say a 6dB dip 10Hz wide around where the bass is hitting for a certain sound or sequence of bass, it won't sound as good as it should.

There's a peak at around 45Hz (+3DB). It starts dropping around 25 Hz. I could feel the deep bass in other movies like LOTR (Fire Dragon scene). Lost in space(Intro). Toy Story 2(intro), but was disappointed with "House of Flying Daggers" as far as bass response.

Hmm...

Anyway, here's a graph of a short portion of that scene:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7193312&highlight=Daggers#post7193312


A lot of the bass is well above 45Hz as well.

I watched the "House of flying dagger" last weekend after seeing the recommendation here. Well, just saw it till the much touted echo game scene. The surround sound effects were awesome, bit I did not feel the bass as everybody has been raving about. I did choose DTS on the DVD and I'm running my Mirage s12 couple of DBs hotter than my mains. I was seated in the sweet spot from where I had calibrated the system.. What gives??
I've spent a lot of time over the last few weeks looking at deep-end scenes for a new list, and that's a big gripe I have. A lot of the highly-suggested LFE scenes either really have just lots of low mid-range or don't use the range effectively.

A few examples: If you have a set of ButtKickers, you will be much less impressed with the Master & Commander scenes than you will by, for example, the Finding Nemo aquarium tapping scene. There's simply no comparison; Master & Commander doesn't get all that low. And on scenes that do use a lot of LFE, such as the bridge-moving scene in X3, it's not as impressive as scenes that have less LFE but more effectively used such as the ancient Jurassic Park dinasaur steps. There's more energy in the X3 scene, but it's a constant and relatively disconnected level so it's easy to tune out, while the Jurassic scene, even though not very technically impressive, has a lot more psychological impact.

Your mileage will vary; I have two BP7004s (10" powered subs internal), additional low-end and two ButtKickers on a BK1000A.

How are those charts of scene signal being created?

I've spent a lot of time over the last few weeks looking at deep-end scenes for a new list, and that's a big gripe I have. A lot of the highly-suggested LFE scenes either really have just lots of low mid-range or don't use the range effectively.

A few examples: If you have a set of ButtKickers, you will be much less impressed with the Master & Commander scenes than you will by, for example, the Finding Nemo aquarium tapping scene. There's simply no comparison; Master & Commander doesn't get all that low. And on scenes that do use a lot of LFE, such as the bridge-moving scene in X3, it's not as impressive as scenes that have less LFE but more effectively used such as the ancient Jurassic Park dinasaur steps. There's more energy in the X3 scene, but it's a constant and relatively disconnected level so it's easy to tune out, while the Jurassic scene, even though not very technically impressive, has a lot more psychological impact.

Your mileage will vary; I have two BP7004s (10" powered subs internal), additional low-end and two ButtKickers on a BK1000A.

How are those charts of scene signal being created?

I think some here will dispute with your opinion on Master and Commander,

I've seen waterfall charts posted on this board for Master and Commander and If I remember correctly the Bass level is very low on the cannon scenes, well below 20hz.

Well, I did say your mileage will vary. But lots of "bass" isn't the same as lots of "house crumbling bass". The difference is pretty clear with two ButtKickers mounted under the floor.

Just watched POTC Dead Man's Chest. Lots of couch shaking effects. I liked the movie as well, but I am still 8 years old at heart.

TechnoCat, I had no idea this is where you hung out. I found your picture and just thought I'd share it with everyone.

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