Is there any way to tell how many hours the unit has been on? I want to make sure I'm over the 100 hour burn in period before calibrating my 37" 50U.Bruzzi's Panny Plasma FAQ has the procedure.

Hey Ken,
I know you didn't ask me, but I'll put my $.02 in anyway. :)

I use a CableCard with my 500U. I love it. I love not having another box cluttering my living room, and probably most importantly, another remote. Even if I had a Universal Remote, and extra box is just something else I have to program, etc. etc.

The 500U comes with the internal TV Guide which makes not having the box much easier. I've also heard the picture is better straight to the TV rather than having to go thru a box, but I haven't really seen anything.

Hope that helps!
-Jay


I am having problems getting the TV Guide on my unit with the Cablecard installed. Comcast says it's the TV and need to call Panasonic. Any ideas?

It was working fine with the box, then when I had the cablecard installed it showed just the channels, but no listings. I tried re-doing the TV Guide setup with the various Comcast channel lineup options provided, and all i get is messgae saying wait 24 hours for channels to download. It never udpates

I am having problems getting the TV Guide on my unit with the Cablecard installed. Comcast says it's the TV and need to call Panasonic. Any ideas?

It was working fine with the box, then when I had the cablecard installed it showed just the channels, but no listings. I tried re-doing the TV Guide setup with the various Comcast channel lineup options provided, and all i get is messgae saying wait 24 hours for channels to download. It never udpatesIf i'm not mistaken, having a Cablecard installed automatically disables the TV Guide Feature (which gets it's info from the local KCET channel).

Besides, if you have the TV set up in Cable mode then it's not in Antenna mode thus no TV Guide is possible.

when i spoke to Panasonic, they said the TV's TVGuide function (not the Comcast guide) is designed ONLY for use with Cablecard and would not work with a STB. I have also read on here that others have been using TVGuide with cablecard with no problem.

I think your cable system needs to be broadcasting the datastream associated with the local PBS affiliate. It's embedded in analog broadcast.

I have 50PX50U w/ SA 8300 HD Box via Time Warner Cable - Can anyone help me diagnose why I sometimes get a white/black broken line on 1/64th inch or less of the very top of my display. This line will go away as commercials change and scenes change. It is irritating and I would be so grateful if someone could explain how to correct this.
Almost everyone notices this ... we answer this at least a couple times a week. It is information like the closed captioning data that is sent in between frames. Ideally your TV set would overscan it away but especially with HDMI connections they don't always. If your set has no picture size adjustment, you may have to live with it, or try component if you are using HDMI. After a week or so you may find that you don't notice it as much.
Also it only typically happens via HDMI while watching an SD show on an HD channel.
I just hooked up HD to my TH-50PM50U and am experiencing the same problem on some channels. The hdmi connection to the cable box is set at 1080i. Would changing the resolution to 720p help?

Last night the TV guide on my PX500 wouldn't come up. The button was completely unresponsive. A little later, the pdp stopped responding to the recall button as well so I couldn't get the info banner to pop up on screen. Very strange. I pulled the plug and power cycled which restored the recall button's functionality, but ever since last night the TV Guide button produces no response. Anyone else seen this glitch? I hope the new firmware addresses this.

Just an update - I left the set unplugged overnight and the TV guide functionality was restored. Hopefully I don't see this one again.

Although it is not a huge difference, when side-by-side, the Panasonic plasma 50" HD certainly seems to have the sharpest picture. I like the Samsung for a lot of its features, particularly the pixel shift, but the picture is just slightly darker and less sharp.

I did try adjusting the Samsung picture via the on-screen controls and still it just did not quite match up to the Panasonic. I noticed that the Samsung seemed very comparable to almost every other model with the exception of the Panasonic and the Pioneer. I noticed this same difference in three different stores where I was able to see the pictures side-by-side.

Is there a downside to the Panasonic picture being that sharp? Would that increase burn-in potential?

Is there a downside to the Panasonic picture being that sharp? Would that increase burn-in potential?
No. Burn in is a function of highlighting different areas of the display for a long time with different intensity features. I.e., a ticker symbol at the bottom, running 4:3 programming in 4:3 mode, games where certain parts of the screen show the same thing all during game play, etc.

I think burn in with current plasmas is an overblown concern. I think you'd really have to try and cause burn in for you actually to get it. I remember one person left a DVD menu on his plasma by accident overnight or something, and there was some image retention right after he caught it. But within 2 days the effect was gone.

Just got this response from Cinthia Alaniz, a customer service rep for Panasonic U.S. …

“We are in the process of transitioning our 2005 models to 2006 models. The new models will be available at the beginning of spring 2006. At that time, customers will be able to view pricing, technical specs, and purchase our new products.”

Do you suppose this refers to both the consumer and the commercial models? With the delays in availability for the TH-50PHD8UK models, the new ones may be available not long after the old ones get in stock.

I want the commercial Panny 50”, just unsure whether to go on a wait list for the current model or wait for the new one. Ideas/suggestions anyone?

As many others have stated, the commercial models typically come out Aug/Sept.

FYI; I finally decided to order a TH-50PHD8UK yesterday and was anticipating long delays; but I found one in stock at Buy_dot_com for $$$, free shipping, and it shipped within 24 hours :cool: . [Don't know why Buy_dot_com isn't listed as a vendor at Cnet_dot_com, but it is (and was the best available price) at Nextag_dot_com].

EDIT>.

mod note: no price other than MSRP, please. Thanks

You could check www.resellerratings.com for others' experience with them.

This is cross-posted on the "Shutdown Issue" thread for the TH42PA20 models. While it doesn't relate to the 42PA20 model, I thought someone there might be able to help. I apologize for any inconvenience.

I purchased my TH42PX50U in mid-December, and in the last week it has begun to act badly. When it has been on for about an hour, it will suddenly cease operating. The small red light on the from panel, which is supposed to communicate to the informed user what is wrong, glows steadily for a minute, then begins flashing in a code that is too rapid for my eyes to comprehend. Finally, after five minutes or so, the thing switches off, then back on, and operates normally for 30 minutes or so.

I have called the licensed repair folks in my area (Sacramento, CA), and they have ordered a new power supply from Panasonic. But, they report that this does not appear to have happened to anyone else.

So, my questions: First, has anyone had a problem similar to mine? And, second, does anyone have any thoughts on what might be wrong?

Thanks for any thoughts you might have.

I recently purchased a panny xr55 receiver. I wanted to hook up my 42pd50 using optical (toslink) cables to the receiver. The operating manual (p.14) shows where the hookup should be on my plasma, but when I looked all I saw was a flat piece of metal screwed into the place where the optical audio out port should be. Has anyone seen this before? I am supposed to have the optical out, aren't I?

I am having problems getting the TV Guide on my unit with the Cablecard installed. Comcast says it's the TV and need to call Panasonic. Any ideas?

It was working fine with the box, then when I had the cablecard installed it showed just the channels, but no listings. I tried re-doing the TV Guide setup with the various Comcast channel lineup options provided, and all i get is messgae saying wait 24 hours for channels to download. It never udpates


I can confirm with my 50px500u the tv guide works with the cable card.

Our local Magnolia Audio in the Best Buy just received 20 Panny 50px500u plasmas and my neighbor is either getting this, a Pio Elite Pro 1130HD or a Pio PDP-5060HD.

Can an experienced 50px500u owner offer a brief list of shortcomings (if any) with this plasma display?

We are aware of the price differences between the Pios and the Panny, the advantages of the Panny and the strengths and weaknesses of the two Pios. But what are the disadvantages of the Panny 500u? I've heard rumblings of a couple of things, but never anything that was ever verified. Marginal scaling sharpness? A lack of aspect-ratio Zoom options? The remote? My friend especially likes the Pio's natural picture, separate media receivers and the case and stand cosmetics, especially on the Elite, but there is a $1,500 price difference.

Anything? Or is the 500u perfect?

Our local Magnolia Audio in the Best Buy just got 20 in and my neighbor is either getting this or a Pio Elite.

Can a experienced Panny 50px500u plasma owner offer a brief list of shortcomings (if any) with this plasma display?

We are aware of the price differences between the two, all the advantages of the Panny and the strengths and weaknesses of the Pio. But what are the disadvantages of the Panny 500u? I've heard rumblings of a couple of things, but never anything that was ever verified. Marginal scaling sharpness? A lack of aspect-ratio Zoom options? The remote?

Anything? Or is it perfect?

If you use the built in tv guide with a cable card, it is slowwwww to respond. It's difficult to organize also. IMO, the tv guide is really it's only short comming. the picture quality is excellent. People are blown away.

Our local Magnolia Audio in the Best Buy just received 20 Panny 50px500u plasmas and my neighbor is either getting this, a Pio Elite Pro 1130HD or a Pio PDP-5060HD.

Can an experienced 50px500u owner offer a brief list of shortcomings (if any) with this plasma display?

We are aware of the price differences between the Pios and the Panny, the advantages of the Panny and the strengths and weaknesses of the two Pios. But what are the disadvantages of the Panny 500u? I've heard rumblings of a couple of things, but never anything that was ever verified. Marginal scaling sharpness? A lack of aspect-ratio Zoom options? The remote? My friend especially likes the Pio's natural picture, separate media receivers and the case and stand cosmetics, especially on the Elite, but there is a $1,500 price difference.

Anything? Or is the 500u perfect?

Ah fine, I'll bite. I've had my 42PX500 for near a year. Love it. No regrets, but of course, nothing is perfect:
1. 720p input is a bit soft. Feeding the set upconverted 720p at 1080i looks better than feeding it 720p. Not a big deal since most any sources allow you to feed 1080i.
2. No per input picture memory - though it does have 3 picture settings and remembers which one was last selected on each imput, so, in effect, it does have per input pic settings for 3 inputs.
3. No stretch of HD signals - use of a STB or DVR resolves this
4. TV Guide is slow to come up and doesn't automatically order by channel. Very slow to sort manually. I prefer to use the guide on my DVR, but it is nice to get show info easily when using the Cablecard.
5. No overscan adjustments in the service menu - but overscan is so minimal from the factory (~2.5% all around) I'm not sure I could lower it anymore anyway.
6. Awfully thick on the bottom, so not ideal if you want to wall mount with a tilt mount - but the speakers do sound very impressive for a plasma.

Wow, after reading that you'd think I don't like it - but I am a very happy owner. The PQ & features for the price can't be beat.

Why buy a 500U when the 600U will be available soon? May this thread... RIP ;)

I can confirm with my 50px500u the tv guide works with the cable card.But not with all cable companies. Some cable companies block the signal needed to make the Panny's TV guide work. This has been discussed in one of the cable forums.

Just got the 42PX60U from Best Buy and have no complaints.
I didn't bother having BB do an installation. TWC supplied all the cables I need--component, not HDMI. Is there any point in paying BB the $100 they want to "install" the set now?
SteveBrownNC

Why buy a 500U when the 600U will be available soon? May this thread... RIP ;)

SOON?
Hehe......keep thinking that!

Just got the 42PX60U from Best Buy and have no complaints. I didn't bother having BB do an installation. TWC supplied all the cables I need--component, not HDMI. Is there any point in paying BB the $100 they want to "install" the set now?What does their "install" accomplish that you couldn't do yourself for free?

SOON?
Hehe......keep thinking that!patience... is key

Just ordered my 50" 500U last night. My first HD venture; thanks to all for their imput. Panel should be here next Friday. I have Time Warner coming out to add HD package. What HDMI cables should I purchase? Will they make a difference over the cables TWC provide (non HDMI).

Do you think there's any chance that Panasonic will come out with a different bezel for the new 60Us? As many comments as I've seen about not buying it because it's just too ugly (I'm in that boat) has got to be hurting their sales revenues. I think some marketing genius needs to get fired over this SNAFU!!!!

Anyone know for sure what the 600Us will look like? I've seen a couple of different versions floating around the internet.

Are there any discrete remote control codes to change PICTURE (contrast) on the TH-##PX50U, without having to go into the menus, for a replacement remote?

I sorely miss the days when Sony used to have dedicated buttons on their remotes which allowed you to change the picture brightness easily to compensate for time of day and ambient light.

I find codes for direct inputs, discrete on and discrete off, but not picture/contrast control. It's a pain having to do all the button presses to get into the menu and do it every time. I'd use remote macros to help automate all of that, but my set seems to sometimes ignore the remote for a while from time to time, and I'd hate to have it decide to suddenly wake up in the middle of a macro... who knows what would actually happen....

Just ordered my 50" 500U last night. My first HD venture; thanks to all for their imput. Panel should be here next Friday. I have Time Warner coming out to add HD package. What HDMI cables should I purchase? Will they make a difference over the cables TWC provide (non HDMI).Try both connections, and you may find that a "cheap" STB from Time Warner renders a better picture w/component versus HDMI.

Thanks to those few who responded to my question about the existence of Panasonic 500u problems or deficiencies (if any). It's a very good TV at a very good price. I think my friend decided to go with the Pioneer Elite Pro -1130HD, but he also looked at the PDP-5060, a consumer model. He thought both the Pio and the Panny TVs offered roughly comparable quality, with each excelling in different areas. The Panny seems better in a couple of ways (certainly price, and arguably - slightly better black levels) but he was really put off by the distracting, silver bottom bezel and stand on the Panny. With the Pio, he likes the elegant looks, and the lighter display weight, made possible by the Pio's separate media receiver. He also likes the Pio's reputation for excellent processing (scaling, 2-3 pulldown for film, aspect ratio controls, etc.). He has a Pio Elite AV Receiver too, and can afford the Elite plasma so, I think that is what he will do...But that Panny 500u sitting over at the local Best Buy (they won't be there long) is very tempting to him.

He'd wait for the new Panny 600u, but he's already waited five months for his 2005/06 NBA League Pass subscription to lapse so that he could switch to Comcast or Direct TV for their HD...Before a few 500u's finally became available again after months of unavailability, he was even considering the Panny 60u plasma -- until he saw one. Panasonic has some serious case design problems -- that 60u is seriously ugly.

Are there any discrete remote control codes to change PICTURE (contrast) on the TH-##PX50U, without having to go into the menus, for a replacement remote?

No, I'm afraid not. A remote macro isn't practical either since the menu remembers the last section accessed.

Thanks to those few who responded to my question about the existence of Panasonic 500u problems or deficiencies (if any). It's a very good TV at a very good price. I think my friend decided to go with the Pio Elite (50-inch) PDP-5060.

The PDP-5060 is not an Elite model, IIRC.

The PDP-5060 is not an Elite model, IIRC.

Yes, I just checked back in to correct this. I think he'll probably purchase the Pioneer Elite Pro -1130HD. He looked at this and the PDP-5060, and we discussed them both, but my typing fingers got ahead of my brain...I'll fix this in the post...

Yes, I just checked back in to correct this. I think he'll probably purchase the Pioneer Elite Pro -1130HD. He looked at this and the PDP-5060, and we discussed them both, but my typing fingers got ahead of my brain...I'll fix this in the post...

No prob.
I also was in a quandry between the 1130HD and the 500u (and even the 60/600u).
I don't think any of those would be a bad choice. :D
I almost jumped on the 1130HD myself but the wait was just as bad as the 600u I wanted. I got a 50PX500u....and I'm not looking back :)

I am looking for suggestions to add to my new 50" 500U. I have a set of Bose 901's for the front and a pair of Bose 201 bookshelf speakers that I could use for the rear. What receiver and center channel speaker would you recommend?

I am looking for suggestions to add to my new 50" 500U. I have a set of Bose 901's for the front and a pair of Bose 201 bookshelf speakers that I could use for the rear. What receiver and center channel speaker would you recommend?

This question should be posted in the speaker forum.

after turning the tv off, about 4-5 minutes later it begins to click. It happens everytime. Is this common??

after turning the tv off, about 4-5 minutes later it begins to click. It happens everytime. Is this common??It could be the case expanding from heating then cooling. These things do this randomly and Panasonic claims it's the nature of flat panel TVs and not a defect. Mine started doing it really bad several months after i got it and it went on for a few months and was driving me out of my mind (primarily when the TV was on) then suddenly it subsided. It was so bad that i started a thread about it titled something like "Loud SNAP sound from my Plasma" if you care to search for it.

There was also a big thread on a small forum that i stumbled upon:

http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/2/176039.html

after turning the tv off, about 4-5 minutes later it begins to click. It happens everytime. Is this common??

Yes, this is common for the PX500. Search this thread for the word click and you'll find other references. It seems to only occur with certain versions of firmware. The latest version that fixes a cablecard glitch seems to also cause the clicking. I typically get two clicks that sound like a power down a few minutes after shutting it off.

EDIT: What I'm describing is a fairly quiet click that sounds like a switch turning off inside the unit and only occurs after the set is shut off. It's certainly not like the snap described above - that sounds like a whole different ball of wax.

Yes, this is common for the PX500. Search this thread for the word click and you'll find other references. It seems to only occur with certain versions of firmware. The latest version that fixes a cablecard glitch seems to also cause the clicking. I typically get two clicks that sound like a power down a few minutes after shutting it off.

I have yet to hear it...not that I'm waiting for it. ;)

The "click--click" is a delayed powering down of the panel when using a cable card and/or tv guide.

I didn't want to read through 185 pages, so sorry in advance if these questions have been covered.

First off, I have the HP PL5000N which should be the same as the PX500.

Anybody notice their 720p quality to be some-what lacking? It seems like my 720p sources arn't as sharp as they are on my friends Sony 55inch 720p 3LCD rear projection. I have noticed this on both Xbox 360 and cable TV sources. I'm not sure if it's just in my head because I sit closer to my plasma or if it is actually not as clear. My 1080i channels on TV look better than the 720p channels to me.

For sure I have noticed on my Xbox360 dash when set to 720p is not as sharp as when set to 1080i. I like to keep it in 720p though for the supposed advantage of 720p's 60 FPS in the games. What do you guys have your Xbox 360s set to and does it matter?

Thanks for the help!

I believe a lot of folks report a better image from 1080i, even us lowly ED owners, at least fromt the cable box...my 360 isn't on my plasma though, so I guess go with your eyes...your set is scaling the image regardless.

My experience has been that my PX50U renders 720p HD signals very well, however 480i (cable source not DVDs) which is up converted to 720p looks rather poor. The "vast majority" of HDTV is 1080i so if PX50Us really do "throw away" more than half their 720p resolution... it's not that big a deal.

PX50Us really do "throw away" more than half their 720p resolution... it's not that big a deal.

Please explain what you mean by this. :confused:

Please explain what you mean by this. :confused:

It's another 'unproven' rumor that is almost taken as fact on AVS. ;)

Please explain what you mean by this. :confused:check out:

this thread ( http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=608670&page=1&pp=30)

and

this article ( http://hometheatermag.com/plasmadisplays/1205panasonic/).

I am curious on how the 60u's display 720p stations without altering. What do you 60u guys notice about 720p stations?
It is possible that there are issues with 720p on my series.

Anybody notice their 720p quality to be some-what lacking? It seems like my 720p sources arn't as sharp as they are on my friends Sony 55inch 720p 3LCD rear projection.
Thanks for the help!

Yes. This is a problem with the 50U/500U IMO. I have the 50U. Optivity linked you to a thread and article discussing it. Another thread discussing it here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=629306&highlight=commercial+panasonic+720p

Converting to 1080i in your STB seems to help some.

Yes. This is a problem with the 50U/500U IMO. I have the 50U. Optivity linked you to a thread and article discussing it. Another thread discussing it here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=629306&highlight=commercial+panasonic+720p

Converting to 1080i in your STB seems to help some.

What makes you tend to think it is a problem?
If we went by that article, 720p would look worse than SD...and that is clearly not the case.

What makes you tend to think it is a problem?
If we went by that article, 720p would look worse than SD...and that is clearly not the case.Correct, which has led many of us to question the author's accuracy in this particular instance.

Converting to 1080i in your STB seems to help some.
Sorry, what does that mean? :confused:

OK, well was playing with some settings tonight and I found that in 720p mode if I turn the shapness up high (+26 against the advice of Video Essentials) that the 720p image looks much sharper and clearer to my eyes. My previous setting was 0 and it just seemed much to blurry than it should be. Xbox 360 and ESPN HD look better now!

Sorry, what does that mean? :confused:

It means feed your set 1080i whenever possible. Set your cable box or sat box or whatever to 1080i resolution and then it will convert all signals to 1080i before sending them to your TV. I don't know whether the xbox has a 1080i setting.

my TVs volume is all over the place, i thought it was supposed to level out the sound, I have tried turning off the audio options as mentioned in earlier post but that doesn't seem to work.

Could someone fill me in on their audio settings to avoid this?

I posted in the Pan FAQ thread about this 'so called' 720p problem. It may have well been a real issue in the past but I sure don't see it on my set.
Is this just a 'herd mentality' problem? ;)

Only "Geoffrey Morrison" using a Leader LT-446 makes this claim... but some people seem to buy it. :rolleyes:

Only "Geoffrey Morrison" using a Leader LT-446 makes this claim... but some people seem to buy it. :rolleyes:

I smell BS. :D
Let's get to the bottom of this.
The burden of proof is on the accuser.

Edit: Clarification.

I posted in the Pan FAQ thread about this 'so called' 720p problem. It may have well been a real issue in the past but I sure don't see it on my set.
Is this just a 'herd mentality' problem? ;)

If you only have your Pan set as a reference......how are you truly going to see it?

There have been owners on this forum that have seen it, magazines have seen it, I've seen it, what else do you need.

Would you like me to send you a plasma that can handle 720p correctly so that "you" can finally see it also?

Dude, Panasonic isn't flawless. Pioneer, Fujistu, NEC, Hitachi, etc aren't either. Just because you have not seen it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

A guy with a handle of "Elemental" should know this ;)

If you only have your Pan set as a reference......how are you truly going to see it?

There have been owners on this forum that have seen it, magazines have seen it, I've seen it, what else do you need.

Would you like me to send you a plasma that can handle 720p correctly so that "you" can finally see it also?

Dude, Panasonic isn't flawless. Pioneer, Fujistu, NEC, Hitachi, etc aren't either. Just because you have not seen it doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.

A guy with a handle of "Elemental" should know this ;)

Well, that's not very D_Nice of you ;)
Put up some sshots or offer some proof man.
Even if sshots don't show all...it's a start.
I am open to the flaws of my set but not unsubstantiated rumors.
All I hear is hearsay from you and cpcat.

Edit: Please send 1130HD for evaluation :p

I posted in the Pan FAQ thread about this 'so called' 720p problem. It may have well been a real issue in the past but I sure don't see it on my set.
Is this just a 'herd mentality' problem? ;)All I can add is that before I knew of this article I tested the 720P and 1080I outputs from my Motorola STB on my 8th generation Panasonic (which is what Geoffrey Morrison tested) and decided that 1080i was sharper. The article does seem to explain what I see but I can't tell for sure if that's the reason. I also don't think you can assume the 60U/600U sets have the same problem. Honestly, for me it's not a problem, I just have my STB output HD at 1080i, which was the default anyway.

Well, that's not very D_Nice of you ;)
Put up some sshots or offer some proof man.
Even if sshots don't show all...it's a start.
I am open to the flaws of my set but not unsubstantiated rumors.
All I hear is hearsay from you and cpcat.


A screenshot isn't going to show you the resolution problem with the PX50u due to variations in computer screens. Sure you can "exaggerate" what's going on with Photoshop, but I don't fudge pictures.

I wouldn't call this issue a "rumor" as it has been reported by numerous sources. Based on "your" wording, it is "rumored" that the PX60u's have problems with clayfacing that you cannot get rid of with the menu controls. It is "rumored" tbat the PX60u's internal processor is inferior to PX50/500's when it comes to any other signal than 720p. It is "rumored" that the PX60u's picture is noisier than the PX50/500. Due to the fact that I own a PX60u and have seen a PX60 right beside a PX50u, I can verify what you call "rumors" as facts.

You may chose to call the 720p is a "rumor" because you do not have the tools to see it for yourself. IMO that's a personal problem that you need to resolve yourself.

See Elemental!! See?! You shouldda got the ugly 60U!!

LOL!

DNero

All I can add is that before I knew of this article I tested the 720P and 1080I outputs from my Motorola STB on my 8th generation Panasonic (which is what Geoffrey Morrison tested) and decided that 1080i was sharper. The article does seem to explain what I see but I can't tell for sure if that's the reason. I also don't think you can assume the 60U/600U sets have the same problem. Honestly, for me it's not a problem, I just have my STB output HD at 1080i, which was the default anyway.

Well, I will say that at first I thought the 720p stations looks a little soft but then realized it is more about the content. I was looking at 4:3 content upconverted to 16:9 HD. After closer inspection of better content, 720p is not as flawed as I first thought. Maybe there is a real issue and that is what I am going to find out. :)

See Elemental!! See?! You shouldda got the ugly 60U!!

LOL!

DNero

Why you %$^%$^%$%^$

Hehe.... :D

A screenshot isn't going to show you the resolution problem with the PX50u due to variations in computer screens. Sure you can "exaggerate" what's going on with Photoshop, but I don't fudge pictures.

I wouldn't call this issue a "rumor" as it has been reported by numerous sources. Based on "your" wording, it is "rumored" that the PX60u's have problems with clayfacing that you cannot get rid of with the menu controls. It is "rumored" tbat the PX60u's internal processor is inferior to PX50/500's when it comes to any other signal than 720p. It is "rumored" that the PX60u's picture is noisier than the PX50/500. Due to the fact that I own a PX60u and have seen a PX60 right beside a PX50u, I can verify what you call "rumors" as facts.

You may chose to call the 720p is a "rumor" because you do not have the tools to see it for yourself. IMO that's a personal problem that you need to resolve yourself.

Dude, that is such a copout.
That sidestepping is not going to work with me.
You need to do better....

Why you %$^%$^%$%^$

Hehe.... :D

HA HA HAAA!!

I just couldn't help meself!!

:p

HA HA HAAA!!

I just couldn't help meself!!

:p

Hey, at least I know for a FACT it looks better turned off. :p

Hey, at least I know for a FACT it looks better turned off. :p


LOL! Eh, ya get used to it!

:)

LOL! Eh, ya get used to it!

:)

I think I might have had to put a bag over it while watching. :p

My 50"500u just showed up on the delivery truck. It is a January-build, assembled in Mexico? I just presumed it would be made in Japan; should I be concerned?

My 50"500u just showed up on the delivery truck. It is a January-build, assembled in Mexico? I just presumed it would be made in Japan; should I be concerned?

I was worried that QC would be impacted but so far, I like it and mine is Feb 06.

Thanks Mental.

I have TWC coming out tomorow to hook up the hi-def package. Any advice for me with the TV?

Thanks Mental.

I have TWC coming out tomorow to hook up the hi-def package. Any advice for me with the TV?

Make sure you use a cablecard or direct coax, first off.
Don't use it for DVD w/HDMI audio pass-thru to your receiver (it works but not well).
I will try to think of more. :)

Dude, Panasonic isn't flawless. before I knew of this article I tested the 720P and 1080I outputs from my Motorola STB on my 8th generation Panasonic (which is what Geoffrey Morrison tested) and decided that 1080i was sharper... I also don't think you can assume the 60U/600U sets have the same problem.No one is claiming that Panasonic makes a "flawless" PDP, but Geoffrey Morrison's assertion that the PX50/500Us resolve less than half the resolution of a 720p signal is "ludicrous." I have watched numerous 720p broadcasts on FOX-HD (primarily NFL Football), ABC-HD (e.g. Lost) and ESPN-HD (e.g. baseball/basketball) and the rendering is very detailed as one would expect from an HD program.

Now... if you're referring to 480i being up converted to 720p... I agree that content looks rather "horrid" :eek: but under those conditions I blame the source program... "garbage in = garbage out..."

The video processing of the 60Us is different from the 50Us so this particular issue may not apply... but early reports seem to indicate the 60Us have their own set of +/- too.

Make sure you use a cablecard or direct coax, first off.
Don't use it for DVD w/HDMI audio pass-thru to your receiver (it works but not well).
I will try to think of more. :)
Thanks. They are installing the 8300DVR with HD package, so no cable card. What about cables? I do not have a sound system yet. I will shop for a surround system in the next month.

No one is claiming that Panasonic makes a "flawless" PDP, but Geoffrey Morrison's assertion that the PX50/500Us resolve less than half the resolution of a 720p signal is "ludicrous." I have watched numerous 720p broadcasts on FOX-HD (primarily NFL Football), ABC-HD (e.g. Lost) and ESPN-HD (e.g. baseball/basketball) and the rendering is very detailed as one would expect from an HD program.

Now... if you're referring to 480i being up converted to 720p... I agree that content looks rather "horrid" :eek: but under those conditions I blame the source program... "garbage in = garbage out..."

The video processing of the 60Us is different from the 50Us so this particular issue may not apply... but early reports seem to indicate the 60Us have their own set of +/- too.

Yeah..I think this got started by somebody's component hookup from an STB that was set wrong and was displaying old OTA SD material upconverted. :D

Thanks. They are installing the 8300DVR with HD package, so no cable card. What about cables? I do not have a sound system yet. I will shop for a surround system in the next month.

HDMI, of course. I am not familiar with that hardware so maybe somebody else can help out.
Bummer you are not using the built-in tuners.....you will be missing out I think.

HDMI, of course. I am not familiar with that hardware so maybe somebody else can help out.
Bummer you are not using the built-in tuners.....you will be missing out I think.
I live in a small town in the mountains and was given the impression that I would not pick up any HD channels over the air?

I live in a small town in the mountains and was given the impression that I would not pick up any HD channels over the air?

Plug in your standard cable coax (not OTA) and see ;)

No one is claiming that Panasonic makes a "flawless" PDP, but Geoffrey Morrison's assertion that the PX50/500Us resolve less than half the resolution of a 720p signal is "ludicrous." I have watched numerous 720p broadcasts on FOX-HD (primarily NFL Football), ABC-HD (e.g. Lost) and ESPN-HD (e.g. baseball/basketball) and the rendering is very detailed as one would expect from an HD program.

Now... if you're referring to 480i being up converted to 720p... I agree that content looks rather "horrid" :eek: but under those conditions I blame the source program... "garbage in = garbage out..."

The video processing of the 60Us is different from the 50Us so this particular issue may not apply... but early reports seem to indicate the 60Us have their own set of +/- too.


The 720p flaw is real and is alive and well.
I started a thread on it if you'd like to participate.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=680320

Plug in your standard cable coax (not OTA) and see ;)
Sorry for sounding like an idiot, but I am a first time user. Do you mean I can plug in my current Time Warner cable that is in my soon-to-be old tv (I have the digital package w/DVR) into the plasma and see what channels it picks up?

Sorry for sounding like an idiot, but I am a first time user. Do you mean I can plug in my current Time Warner cable that is in my soon-to-be old tv (I have the digital package w/DVR) into the plasma and see what channels it picks up?

I am not sure if having the digital package makes a difference (never had it) but I did plug my old cable in and get quite a few HD channels. :)

I am not sure if having the digital package makes a difference (never had it) but I did plug my old cable in and get quite a few HD channels. :)
I eventually tried this and I picked up ABCHD and NBCHD which are not offered on my local TW HD package? The only problem now is that I lose the digital package and the HD channels in the package unless I continually plug/unplug the cable and box?

Haven't checked in on this thread in a long time.

Have there been any reasons why these Panny's make the on/off clicking sounds when they are off in the middle of the night? Just curious. Mine still makes these noises at various times. It will make 2 quick clicks followed by a pause and then a 3rd click.

Scott

Haven't checked in on this thread in a long time.

Have there been any reasons why these Panny's make the on/off clicking sounds when they are off in the middle of the night? Just curious. Mine still makes these noises at various times. It will make 2 quick clicks followed by a pause and then a 3rd click.

Scott

Scott!! I thought i was going crazy. My 50px500u clicks too. It will only click once, sometimes every 15 minutes, sometimes longer. have other people heard this too?

JJ

Scott!! I thought i was going crazy. My 50px500u clicks too. It will only click once, sometimes every 15 minutes, sometimes longer. have other people heard this too?

JJ

Yes, in this thread about a year ago there was some talk about it. I started hearing it again, so thought I would see if anyone ever found out what the heck it is. It sounds just like the plasma is being turned on, but it is off. Anyone else have this problem/issue?

Scott

Yes, in this thread about a year ago there was some talk about it. I started hearing it again, so thought I would see if anyone ever found out what the heck it is. It sounds just like the plasma is being turned on, but it is off. Anyone else have this problem/issue?

Scott

IIRC, someone attributed it to the set doing a delayed power down. Do you guys use a CC? I think this may only happen when the CC is used. The original firmware didn't do this, but the latest version does. No biggie, but if mine was in a bedroom it would annoy me more.

IIRC, someone attributed it to the set doing a delayed power down. Do you guys use a CC? I think this may only happen when the CC is used. The original firmware didn't do this, but the latest version does. No biggie, but if mine was in a bedroom it would annoy me more.

Don't use a CC. Yes, in a bedroom. It doesn't really bother me. I just didn't want it to be a fire hazard or something weird. :eek: I've never had a TV, or anything for that matter, make clicking noises when off.

Scott

Cablecard use and/or the tv guide feature seems to cause this.Try disabling the tv guide and see if that stops it.After the cablecard was installed on my 50px50 the power supply relays no longer "clicked" with the power button but about 5-7 minutes after powering down.I believe the tv guide needs to continually download info and I noticed the cablecard actually causes higher power use in stand-by mode according to the owners manual.

After connecting the HDMI cables, I am finally receiving true HD on my new 500U (I can't believe I have missed the World Cup group games, which is why I bought this plasma in the first place). After three visits by clueless TWC techies, i finally ordered these cables and what a difference.

Now my Aspect button on the remote does not work? How do i stretch the non-HD channels to get rid of the grey side bars?

Now my Aspect button on the remote does not work? How do i stretch the non-HD channels to get rid of the grey side bars?

The aspect button on the Panny is disabled if the input resolution is 720p or 1080i. Most likely your cable box is sending everything in either one of those resolutions - even the non-HD channels. Some cable boxes do have the option to send things in native resolution (non-HD at 480i, HD at 720p or 1080i), so you may want to check that out. Then you will be able to strech the non-HD channels.

Has anyone tried the new Oppo 970HD player with their Panny?

I was thinking of getting it to hook to my 42PD50U via HDMI.

Has anyone tried the new Oppo 970HD player with their Panny?

I was thinking of getting it to hook to my 42PD50U via HDMI.

My 50U performs poorly with 480i according to HQV Benchmark DVD testing.

My recommendation is to match a quality 480p output or quality 1080i upconversion to these sets. The 971 is a candidate but you'll have the macroblocking issue to deal with.

Consider the Toshiba A1.

Has anyone tried the new Oppo 970HD player with their Panny?

I was thinking of getting it to hook to my 42PD50U via HDMI.My 50U performs poorly with 480i according to HQV Benchmark DVD testing.

My recommendation is to match a quality 480p output or quality 1080i upconversion to these sets. The 971 is a candidate but you'll have the macroblocking issue to deal with.

Consider the Toshiba A1.Why buy an up converting DVD player to watch DVDs @ 480i? :confused: There are no macroblocking issues with the DV-970HD:

From HTIF (http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/cgi-bin/shootout.cgi?function=search&articles=130)

"Oppo Digital made a big name for themselves just awhile back with their first entry into the DVD player market: the 971H. That budget player was one of the first to combine a Mediatek MPEG decoder with the popular Faroudja FLI-2310 de-interlacing/scaling chip. What resulted was a player that had an outstanding core video section, excellent de-interlacing, and a great price. But the 971H had its issues. For one thing, it would only do de-interlacing and scaling via its DVI output, leaving component video users in the cold. The Faroudja-based video processing also has issues with some displays causing “macroblocking” artifacts that can make the playback of DVD near unwatchable depending on how bad the interaction between the display and player is. The DVI output is also an issue for some. DVI was originally intended for PC applications, so it is a bit limited in its overall capability. But for those who looked past these issues, the 971H was a steal. Now, Oppo Digital has released an even bigger steal, the DV-970HD. This new player incorporates even more features and flexibility, at an even lower price!

The 970HD is based on the popular Mediatek (MTK) MPEG decoder, just like its predecessor, but the implementation is different this time around. Oppo Digital has eliminated the Faroudja processing and is relying solely on the processing inside the MTK chip. While this does result in a hit in overall video de-interlacing performance, it eliminates the risk of macroblocking artifacts if your display is susceptible to those issues."

Do a google search on "DV-970HD" and read the accolades this player receives. BTW... I have the OPDV971H connected to my 50PX50U with no macroblocking problems either. ;)

Just picked one up for my dad at a great price thru Amazon for $2,178.88 including shipping TH-42PX60U (http://www.doctoredmedia.com/panny).

My 50U performs poorly with 480i according to HQV Benchmark DVD testing.

My recommendation is to match a quality 480p output or quality 1080i upconversion to these sets. The 971 is a candidate but you'll have the macroblocking issue to deal with.

Consider the Toshiba A1.


Considering my PDP is an EDTV why would I want to upconvert to 1080i only to have it convert it back down to 480p? The 970 can also do 480p and above.

With your PDP up converting may not be a good option, but given the $149 (MSRP) DV-970HD incorporates the upscaling and deinterlacing capabilities of the Mediatek chip, which is better than what most "budget" players use, and supports 480p over HDMI... most likely your PDP will render a better picture.

(Replying to #5591 above)

Which cables are you talking about? I cannot get my HDMI from my Panny DVD player to work on my TV. DVD Player as u70-2 Error. Have tried different cables. Had Service Tech come out. Not sure what to do.

Help Please. I would think many have their volume from receiver display (and menus from recevier) on TV

I have a Panasonic SA-XR70 Receiver -- works fine. But I never have been able to get the Receivers menus to display on my TV. I have a TH-42PX500U. Have had it all for about 11 months.

I know for the On Screen Display to work the Receivers Video TV Monitor Out terminal needs to be connected to the televisions VIDEO IN. I have tried and tried and canot get it to work.

The problem has to be the Televisions Video IN -- I guess I am not sure which input to use?? Can anyone help.

The picture of the back of the TV can be found here http://www.bruzzi.ws/plasma-faq/showthread.php?t=26

Thanks

Haven't been in this thread in a while but I have been getting the clicking that's been reported here. At first I thought it was my STB since i had my STB replaced about the same time I noticed the clicking. I realized the other day it wasnt the box and the sound was coming from the TV. I upgraded the firmware about 6 months ago when it was first released, can't really remember exactly when.

Anyway, it looks like there is a new firmware that was released 7/13/06, version 1.65 for the 500u and version 1.27 for the 50u.
http://www.pasctraining.panasonic.com/SpecialApplications/ProductFirmwareDownloads/downloads1.asp

Has anyone installed the new firmware? Has it fixed the clicking sound when off or is the clicking now normal?

edit: I do not have the cablecard installed.

If you have a 500, is the TV guide enabled?

I have the 500u and yes the TV guide is enabled. I searched this thread for "clicking" and "click" and nobody responded that turning off the tv guide solved the problem. Also there were posts of the PD50 of clicking and that set does not have the TV guide.

Can anyone confirm that turning off the TV guide makes the clicking go away?

Post 5590 :)

Thanks!

I'll try turning it off tonight.

I might install the new firmware this evening too if I'm not too busy.

Hello, I have the Panasonic TH-42PX500U and I have had it since last december. I really love the set - but I am starting to notice something that has just happened recently. It seems that for some reason, still images (station logos, video game HUDS, etc) are "staying" on the screen, even after I change the channel or turn off the source material.

To make it go away, I will turn on a channel with no logo, or play a scene from a dvd - once I do that it does go away completley.

The set never used to have this problem and I wanted to know if anyone else has seen similar behavior after about 9 months of use, or if I should call panasonic about this? Just want to get this solved before it becomes a real issue (burn in or something).

Any tips would be great.

Thanks!
Andrew

I don't have this issue, but I'm guessing you're running very high picture levels. Notch the contrast back a bit and you likely won't see this. Image retention is typically not a problem on these sets.

BTW - I seem to recall some expressing concerns awhile back that some displays bob 1080i to 540p, resulting in a softer picture due to "throwing away" half of 1080i's rez.

Rest assured, Panny's PX50/PX500 series isn't doing so. :)

http://hometheatermag.com/hookmeup/0506halfrez/

Posted this in the HP thread; maybe an owner in here can advise me, since we're like cousins. :)

I've been enjoying the HP PL4200N (rebadged panasonic) for a week now, but I've got one issue that might force a return. I really wanted to use the xbox 360's VGA adapter with this set's PC Input, but the since the Tint & Color controls are disabled when using this input, I'm stuck with what the display does by default. Changing the Temp helps a little, depending on the signal (Game vs. DVD) but it doesn't solve the problem - everything's way oversaturated. Games look really good (they're typically oversaturated anyway), but James Bond looks like ronald's buddy grimmace. Some games also suffer - every soldier in Call of Duty 2 is just too pink, even set to Cool temp.

Is this something that can be corrected via the service menu? Can the default color level on VGA be adjusted down? I'm satisfied with the color on the other inputs.

I plan on getting this professionally calibrated, but not before my return window expires, and I don't want to be stuck with a TV that can't do what I want.

I really dig the display, otherwise.

Thanks for any help you can offer.

Posted this in the HP thread; maybe an owner in here can advise me, since we're like cousins. :)

I've been enjoying the HP PL4200N (rebadged panasonic) for a week now, but I've got one issue that might force a return. I really wanted to use the xbox 360's VGA adapter with this set's PC Input, but the since the Tint & Color controls are disabled when using this input, I'm stuck with what the display does by default. Changing the Temp helps a little, depending on the signal (Game vs. DVD) but it doesn't solve the problem - everything's way oversaturated. Games look really good (they're typically oversaturated anyway), but James Bond looks like ronald's buddy grimmace. Some games also suffer - every soldier in Call of Duty 2 is just too pink, even set to Cool temp.

Is this something that can be corrected via the service menu? Can the default color level on VGA be adjusted down? I'm satisfied with the color on the other inputs.

I plan on getting this professionally calibrated, but not before my return window expires, and I don't want to be stuck with a TV that can't do what I want.

Good news - Yes, there is a way. I had the exact same problem. Search this thread for PC input color and you'll likely find the relevant posts. In short, you need to enter the service menu and lower the color setting in the service menu. This will lower ALL your color settings on ALL picture settings (Vivid, Cinema, etc.). I recommend doing this adjustment while you have the PC input selected so you can see the results. After adjusting in the service menu, just notch up the color settings in the user menu to compensate. Viola! I'm very happy with the PC input since making this tweak - it was unbearably oversaturated from the factory.

EDIT: Found the post: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6387825&&#post6387825

That is fantastic. Thanks for the heads up and the detailed instructions in the linked post. I suppose if I'd been more precise with the search function, I wouldn't have had to bother anyone... but it's great how helpful & encouraging this forum (generally) is. Made my day - thanks!

Dumb question - How do you disable the TV Guide? I see there is an initial setup when the set is first powered on, but I can find no way to disable it once turned on. I'm hoping a reset of all factory settings isn't necessary. Anyone?

If I loose power, all my channel captions (the acronym I choose for each channel) gets lost. Is there any way to recall this stuff? can I back it up on occasion and restore it mat a later date if this loss of power occurs?

I believe this also ghappens hen firmware update is done.

Any help here guys?

Hey all, I have a couple of quick questions. Before I ask them I want to mention that I did search the forums and have been reading for the last hour or so, and couldn't find the answers.

1st. Question: Panny? Is that AVS Forumspeak for Panasonic?

2nd Question: My Panasonic TH-50PX500U is having CableCard issues and the cable company is coming out monday to replace it, in the meantime I see the link to the firmware downloads at that pasctraining website (Couldn't post the link cause there is some restrictions for new members on doing so...)

Does anyone know if the firmware listed for the PX500 will safely work on the PX500U?

3rd Question: When the TV is off and I press the power button on the TV and hold it, the set clicks a few times and then acts like it's been reset. What exactly is happening when I do this?

Thanks in advance.


Ed

1) Yes

2) You should update the firmware. It addresses some Cablecard problems.

3) Don't hold the TV power down. I haven't tried doing this. ;)

My 50PX500u has zero issues with a cablecard, btw.

Does anyone have problems with false contouring on their panny's. By this I mean spotchy images in dark scenes or a dark splotch on a image of someone's face. Alot of times they can be splotches on walls of different gradients that seem to be moving. I currently have a 50" vizio and notice these problems frequently and am thinking of switching to a panny but want to make sure if this is a overall plasma problem.

regarding the clicking, i believe it has to do with the cablecard. i read another thread in one of the forums explaining it. it is normal as far as i know.

i also use cable card and wonder what are the benefits to firmware upgrade? is this posted anywhere?

one more thing, my cablecard works fine, but when i first got it installed, had problems getting the tvguide to work. comcast was clueless and said it must be the tv. i called Panasonic on several occassions and even went through some set-up menus with them to try to resolve it. at the time (~8 months ago) i asked them if the firmware upgrade was the problem and they told me that the firmware upgrade does not address it and I do not need the upgrade. finally, they told me the tvguide problem has nothing to do with the tv.

long story short, it was comcast's problem and eventually the tvguide started working after i complained to comcast a few more times.

BTW, I never hear any clicking from my 500u. Maybe I am just too old. :o

I wanted to mention that I ran the HQV benchmark DvD recently and my 50Px500u did excellent. I also ran it in 480p, 720p, 1080i for comparison (Pan S-97 player).
I noticed that it looked good with the first test (color, resolution) in all of those modes.
There has been much talk about 720p resolution issues and I think they are unfounded. I did however notice that 1080i was slightly better in the resolution test. I noticed some slight flickering in the 2 and 3 pixel lines measuring resolution with 480p and 720p. 1080i seemed better here. There was zero flicker in the single pixel lines in all 3 modes.
This could just be an interlaced vs non interlaced source issue though.

The 50/500Us are "solid" performers... but I'll bet the 65PX600U is a lot nicer. ;)

Yes, that they are. :)
Very cool that these huge displays (65" & 103") can be watched from 2' away and still look amazing (with the proper content, of course).
Gotta love plasma, I say! :cool:

I just bought a TH-42PD50U for $800 think it was a HDTV since that is what the sales person told me. Come to found out it is a EDTV and not a HDTV. I called the place that I purchase the TV from and they said that would take it back and sale me a TH-42PX60U for $1200. The picture on the PD looks wonderful so would it be worth the extra 400 dollars to upgrade to the PX?

How close are you sitting?

I would go at least for 42" HD.

How close are you sitting?

we sit about 9 to 11 feet away

Thanks

I read on BruZZi's forum that Panasonic removed the ability to adjust the overscan in the 50PX50U, even in the service menu. Is this correct?

What about adjustments to center the picture, that is, so that there's equal overscan on all sides?

Can anything at all be done on the 50PX50U to resolve overscan issues?

This is one very long thread with lots of info. I have the 42PX500U and I am looking for recommended calibration settings for this plasma screen. Can someone point me in the direction of recommended settings?


Many thanks

This is one very long thread with lots of info. I have the 42PX500U and I am looking for recommended calibration settings for this plasma screen. Can someone point me in the direction of recommended settings?


Many thanks

Settings will vary for a lot of reasons but try these.
I have the 50" but it can't hurt to try them. :)

TV: RF

Pic Mode = Normal
Picture = +14
Brightness = +5
Color = -2
Tint = -2
Sharpness = -15
Color temp = Warm
Color Mgmt = Off
CATS = Off
Video NR = Off
MPEG NR = Off

DvD: HDMI @ 1080i

Pic Mode = Cinema
Picture = +15
Brightness = +5
Color = 0
Tint = 0
Sharpness = 0
Color temp = Warm
Color Mgmt = Off
CATS = Off
Video NR = On
MPEG NR = On

Edit: Black level on light for DvD.

Thank you. I'll give those a try.

I currently own the 47" Vizio LCD that recently went on sale at Costco. The reason I bought the set was not only because it was a killer deal, but I thought that I would be doing a lot of 360 gaming. Turns out, I don't play as much as I thought I would. So, I'm beginning to wonder if I should have bought a plasma instead.

I live in a one bedroom apartment, and my living situation probably isn't going to change in the near future. The amount of sunlight coming into the room will be minimal, due to curtains. I would primarily be using the set for movies, a lot of HDTV and some regular ole cable, with a bit of 360 mixed in (prolly like an average of 2 hrs a day MAX).

The Vizio has many features that I love about it, but the regular cable picture is less than stellar. I think that I might be better off getting a 42" versus anything larger, since the picture will probably look better. I have to admit, I was one of the many people who bought into the whole 1080p marketing scheme. I really don't think that I will really utilize the 1080p technology that the Vizio offers. Therfore, I think that I can probably be safe with a 720p set.

Let me get to my questions, sorry, just want to get my background info out of the way. Let me also apologize for not going thru all 188 pages of this thread, so I'm taking a shot here and hoping somebody can help me out and do me a big favor.

1. Which set, the 42" or 50", has better PQ for both SD and HD broadcasts?
2. Which one would you recommend?
3. Are there any major flaws that I should be aware of?
4. Is burn-in a real issue with these sets? Do they have any type of protection against this from happening?


THis is all that I can think of. I've had a long day and need to get to bed. I hope I posted this in the right thread, I'd hate to have to write this again.

Thanks for the help. I need it!

I posted this in the cable forum and now it appears to be a TV issue, summary:

certain channels like IFC and Encore were not getting sound but picture was fine. I use cablecard and tried replacing the card and did not help. the cable guys were over a few times and tried everything. it is only those channels and the sound works fine when going through the 500U speakers but not when going through the receiver. receiver shows analog signal for those channels and tv is connected with optical cable. apparently there was some recent change in copyright issues with those channels as all channels were working fine til that change took place.

Comcast said it was the tv that was somehow converting the signal to analog and the receiver will not accept analog signal through the digital input and there should be a way to change it but I did not find anything. i called Panasonic and their only suggestion was to reset the tv. i haven't done this yet but was wondering if anyone is familiar with this issue or knows if this will work before i try

Are you running the latest firmware?

I posted this in the cable forum and now it appears to be a TV issue, summary:

certain channels like IFC and Encore were not getting sound but picture was fine. I use cablecard and tried replacing the card and did not help. the cable guys were over a few times and tried everything. it is only those channels and the sound works fine when going through the 500U speakers but not when going through the receiver. receiver shows analog signal for those channels and tv is connected with optical cable. apparently there was some recent change in copyright issues with those channels as all channels were working fine til that change took place.

Comcast said it was the tv that was somehow converting the signal to analog and the receiver will not accept analog signal through the digital input and there should be a way to change it but I did not find anything. i called Panasonic and their only suggestion was to reset the tv. i haven't done this yet but was wondering if anyone is familiar with this issue or knows if this will work before i try

Elemental is right on. Upgrade to the latest firmware (http://www.pasctraining.panasonic.com/SpecialApplications/ProductFirmwareDownloads/downloads1.asp) and your problem will be solved.

I have a PX50U. The other morning, I noticed a noise coming out of the speakers. I had the volume off. It was very faint, but constant. The only way I can describe it is like static. I know its not the fan. I don't know who I should turn to first...Panasonic, Comcast, HH Gregg? I can only hear it when I am up close to it, but it definately drives me nuts!

Has anyone else heard anything similar fro their set? I know I'd never get this cleaned up in a day or so, but I really think its a problem.

Any feedback would be appreciated :)

nc

I would not tolerate any noise with my display.
Try to eliminate the source of the noise by troubleshooting (disconnect a device then check noise).

I recently purchased an AppleTV and wanted to hook it up to my 50PHD8UK by way of HDMI. This Panny model comes with 3 slots, but only slots 2 & 3 have anything in them, and no HDMI plug. So I purchased a Panny HDMI terminal board for slot 1. I've tried to install it but the TV doesn't acknowledge that there is a slot 1. I called Plasmatv4less where I bought it from, and they said try slot 2. No luck. Anyone else done this successfully?

I have a question about my TV. I have a TH50PX50U and when I'm Watching either TV, DVD, or Tivo, the Input flashes on the screen ever so often.

Was wondering if anyone else was experiencing this problem or is it just me.

Thank You

I have a question about my TV. I have a TH50PX50U and when I'm Watching either TV, DVD, or Tivo, the Input flashes on the screen ever so often.

Was wondering if anyone else was experiencing this problem or is it just me.

Thank You

I had this same problem on my TH50PX50U.... when it was under warranty I had them come out and look at it, they had no idea, so they replaced a few boards.. The input would flash randomly just as you described.. the tech looked through all the schematics for the TV and couldn't pinpoint what could cause this, or what the issue may be, hence the crapshoot at replacing the boards. He also said there is NO specific IR command that would just bring up that input info banner.

So with the board replacements it did seem to go away, and this was about 6-8 months ago.. It did go away, but i recently saw the issue surface again, and its completely random. Since this occurs on all inputs, across all input types (HDMI, component, composite, s-video), its something in the signal input processing on the TV.

My two thoughts on a cause:

1. The input signal strength slightly dips and comes back up to full strength. This signal dip is not enough to cause the screen to blank, but enough to trigger the display banner to come up. In otherwords, something in the design doesn't properly handle dips in the source signal well. To demonstrate, if you set your TV to a source, then turn off the source by pulling out the cable, wait for the banner to go away, then plug the cable back in, the banner will come up.

2. None

:)

-t

HI everyone,

Haven't been on this forum since I bought my Panasonic TH-42px50u back in June of 05'.

Came home tonight and played a little Wii which is connected via component cable. Then went to watch some TV so I switched over to HdMI and the screen was black w/no signal.

Went over to the CAble box Sci-Atl explorer 8000 hd and made sure it was on, then unplugged and plugged back in and still nothing. I then selected the cable input on my tv and the screen showed up perfect, switched back to hdmi and the screen was black. I then selected the cable input again and put on HBOHD and switched to HDMI when the screen displayed the show and the picture was green then the screen went black. I then turned off the cable box and the screen looked like this.

Anyway, I then changed it back to cable and the picture is perfect.

I then thought that possibly it could be something with the TV not processing HD so I hooked component cables up to my cable box and tv and the tv displayed the HD perfectly.

Any suggestions as to what this could be??? We had thundestorms here in PA tonight but pretty much everything is working aside from using the HDMI.

Here are the pics that didn't show up in the post before, sorry.

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just went into my service menu, i have 4000 hours on my 42PX50U and 1900 cycles
still looks great

just went into my service menu, i have 4000 hours on my 42PX50U and 1900 cycles, still looks greatI checked my 42PX50U 5 months ago right before retiring it to the bedroom and it had about 5,200 hours and turned on 2,997 times over 743 days of use.

It still looks great but i never watch it anymore. No burn-in, and still bright enough to tan my face. Can't stand the SDE though. It's still in impeccable condition and i hate to get rid of it and they're not worth a lot of money on the used TV market (maybe $700) so i might give it to the GF so i can watch it at her house (instead of her 32" LCD).

I moved my 42PX500U to the bedroom about 2 months ago and I just had a cablecard installed today. Installation went without a hitch. Card was plugged in, a message popped up the screen with a couple of ID codes that the tech had to call in, a few minutes later, I had access to all of my HD and premium channels! Fortunately, I upgraded to the latest firmware when I moved the TV to minimize any troubles the cablecard.

I wish I had this feature on my other two TV's!

I am just curious if anybody has had any issues re-scanning channels with the Panasonics? I have Panasonic TH-42PD50U that is connected to a DISH 622 receiver, but I do watch terrestrial ATSC through it. As long as I was in the re-scanning mode I decided to re-scan the internal tuner on the TH-42PD50U. It was an interesting experience because the device seemed to freeze up. I unplugged AC power for a while, then powered back up and it still seemed frozen. I recalled that some people in my area (Minneapolis DMA) reported issues with Channel 25 having non-standard MPEG-2 audio and that some tuners could not decode it. That prompted me to disconnect the antenna coaxial feedline, re-scan to essentially clear out old channels, and then re-connect and scan them back in. I then disconnected the TH-42PD50U again and deselected channels 25-1 to 25-5. That seemed to take care of the problem. While I cannot verify for a fact that this was the source of the problem, it certainly does not seem coincidental to me. Granted, there are probably few other Panasonic owners that would have this issue, but I wanted to post this in case. If someone were unaware of what was happening, this could have caused considerable time and money trying to trouble shoot this and get it repaired.