I saw this today. It's 42" and the price is $XXXX. I though to myself, "heh, not too bad a price for an ED plasma." Then I noticed the E was actually an H! A high definition plasma for XXXX bucks? It has DVI-D but no HDMI. It gets better. I played around with this thing a little bit, and all I can say is this tv has to be seen to be believed. For starters, it has almost perfect grayscale tracking. I know D6500 when I see it, and this is very close on the warm color temp setting. It has 5 selectable gamma settings, and horizontal and vertical size and position screen controls which I found odd. I don't recall it all but there's a host of advanced menu options I rarely see in a tv's user menu. Here's the icing on the cake that truly impressed me though: below the color temp menu is a color management menu that allows individual color decoder adjustments. I don't know how fine the adjustment increments are but the fact that they're in the user menu blew me away. I couldn't find out the panel resolution, but it's most likely 1,024x768. Scaling of 1080i looked pretty good too. The only drawback is what seemed to be mediocre contrast ratio overall, but the black and white levels weren't calibrated so that's not fair to say really.

What do you all think? Does anybody know who makes this? I don't mean to sound gushing, but for all that it offers (a picture free of red push and blue tint without an ISF calibration or any kind of service menu tweaking), this could be the HD plasma bargain of the year. What's everybody's thoughts?

Apparently not. :)

The name is evocative of some sort of face cleaning adhesive tape, isn't it? Sorry I couldn't add something constructive.

Originally posted by Xcalibur_255
I saw this dtoday. It's 42" and the price is $XXXX. I though to myself, "heh, not too bad a price for an ED plasma." Then I noticed the E was actually an H! A high definition plasma for XXXX bucks?...
What do you all think? Does anybody know who makes this? I don't mean to sound gushing, but for all that it offers (a picture free of red push and blue tint without an ISF calibration or any kind of service menu tweaking), this could be the HD plasma bargain of the year. What's everybody's thoughts? Here come the Chinese... A decent 42" HD PDP ? Perhaps the prices for all PDP's will decline faster than any of us anticipate. I'm looking forward to the day when I can pick up a Panasonic TH-50PX500U .

I've only seen the very unimpressive "Ilo" and Sanyo plasmas in Wally World but I haven't been to a store in a while. It might be interesting to find out who actually makes the components for this pdp however..

There was a Viera line...

Originally posted by wojtek
There was a Viera line... That's Panasonic

You have to think that "Viore" is intended to be confused with "Viera" ...

We've been had...:mad:

Wal Mart's web site shows the TH-37PWD6UY in stock for $XXXX

Looks like it comes with a stand, but even if it does, that ain't such a great price compared to the forum sponsors.

And haven't the 6 series been gone for a while? I wonder where Wally got enough of them to advertise them on their website. . . . .

Originally posted by optivity
We've been had...:mad:

Wal Mart's web site shows the TH-37PWD6UY in stock for $XXXX.
Thats about a G note more than you can buy online,You sure it isnt a Vizio hd you saw?

But why would someone want a 6UY when the 7UYs have been out for so many months? And it's a WD, not an HD.

The individual who began this thread (Xcalibur_255) hasn't been back to update us regarding what he saw at Wal Mart. I'm going to check out one of their super centers tonight to see what FP's they have. Unfortunately I live in the SmAlbany NY region and our big box stores don't carry the same level (or choice) of merchandise that can be found in area's like Atlanta GA. I posted up the link to Wal Mart's web site because this was the only Panasonic PDP I could find.

IMO, given the conversion to DTV and an increasing choice of HD programming (currently, I get 16 channels in HD), I don't understand why anyone would consider spending $2K on an ED-PDP anymore? In addition, with HD-PDP features like: CableCARD, tuners & HDMI and that PDP's last for 20 years, I don't understand the interest in the commercial models either?

Originally posted by optivity
IMO, given the conversion to DTV and an increasing choice of HD programming (currently, I get 16 channels in HD), I don't understand why anyone would consider spending $2K on an ED-PDP anymore? In addition, with HD-PDP features like: CableCARD, tuners & HDMI and that PDP's last for 20 years, I don't understand the interest in the commercial models either?

I'm with you, part way (the second part).

But where I live, the cable provider (Cox) doesn't know when or even if they will offer HD. They do digital, but I'm not gonna spring for that kind of $ unless I can get HD.

Originally posted by optivity


IMO, given the conversion to DTV and an increasing choice of HD programming (currently, I get 16 channels in HD), I don't understand why anyone would consider spending $2K on an ED-PDP anymore? In addition, with HD-PDP features like: CableCARD, tuners & HDMI and that PDP's last for 20 years, I don't understand the interest in the commercial models either?

If the prices were close and/or the PQ difference was vast, I would agree, but ED and HD versions of the Panasonic 42" models, for example, are $3K apart, and the PQ increase is not all that much for those who sit 10' or more for viewing. Some of the generic brand HD models may approach the Panasonic ED price, but they usually lack the great black levels and overall quality. As to business vs consumer models, I agree with you - the consumer models are the better buy IMO.

Originally posted by yobob
I'm with you, part way (the second part).

But where I live, the cable provider (Cox) doesn't know when or even if they will offer HD. They do digital, but I'm not gonna spring for that kind of $ unless I can get HD. Sorry to hear that. Can't you go with some type of Dish network? I live in Upstate NY and my home is surrounded by trees and hills so I'm married to cable for the time being. Verizon is running fiber into my area so maybe there will be some competition down the road. Albany Time Warner went from two HD channels initially (HBO and Showtime) to 16 during the past two years.

Originally posted by dsmith901
If the prices were close and/or the PQ difference was vast, I would agree, but ED and HD versions of the Panasonic 42" models, for example, are $3K apart, and the PQ increase is not all that much for those who sit 10' or more for viewing. Some of the generic brand HD models may approach the Panasonic ED price, but they usually lack the great black levels and overall quality. As to business vs consumer models, I agree with you - the consumer models are the better buy IMO. I'm interested in buying a 50" HD-PDP and I'd be extremely disappointed if it did not render a better picture than my 36" 4:3 CRT HD-TV.

Originally posted by optivity

I'm interested in buying a 50" HD-PDP and I'd be extremely disappointed if it did not render a better picture than my 36" 4:3 CRT HD-TV.

You may want to make a basic in-store comparison between a 4:3 CRT-HDTV and the 50 HDPDP using a familiar DVD. A larger screen will magnify any source defects, so a SD source that looks very good on a 36" CRT can look less so on a 50" PDP. 42" EDs generally do a better job with SD material, including DVDs, but if you have access to plenty of HDTV then by all means get the HD model.

Well, I just found the 42" Viore HD Ready Plasma TV on Sam's Club website, could be the same one OP mentioned at Walmart. Price range about 2k.

Some Features:
Model: V42PD45M
1024 x 1024 resolution
4000:1 contrast ratio
1000 cd/m2 brightness
Component video input
S-Video input
DVI input

Our local Wal-Mart has had this Viore 42" HD plasma on display for about a month. I don't want to violate forum rules, but it is very inexpensive for HD - under the price first mentioned above. PQ in the store looks decent but as everyone knows, this depends on so many setup and environment variables - I would say it's not quite as good as the Pioneer HD unit they were closing out just before, but again setup dependent.

In any case, the brand name & HD spec is not a mistake, hoax or anything else. I'm surprised it hasn't received more discussion than this.

Joel

After posting the previous message, I checked Walmart.com, and found they have quite a few interesting plasmas there. Panasonics, Tatungs, and a whole line of "preorder" Hyundais at 60", 50", 42" (HD) and 42" ED.

The Hyundai descriptions all state quite clearly that they are LG panels. The 42" HD unit is listed as 1024 x 768 and 5000:1 (stated) contrast, and is really cheap by today's market, considerably cheaper even than the Viore discussed here. The 50" is listed as 1366 x 768 and 5000:1 (stated) contrast. Inputs for these have DVI, not HDMI and no HDCP mentioned. The 60" price is in the territory of many retail store's 50" offerings.

Interestingly, the search for "plasma" also produces some academic textbooks on plasma physics - not normally a hot item at Wal-Mart. I wonder who they've partnered with for their online sales site?

Joel

Wow! Under $1700 for the Hyundai ED version and under $1999 for the Hyundai HD version. The HD says "Featuring the latest high-grade, high-contrast HD PDP Panel from LG"
Does anybody have more info about this. LG is semi-highly regarded around here right? Are there other items to consider besides the panel? Would the internal components be made by Hyundai or others or maybe LG as well?

I have never heard of Viore (the original panel for this thread) but I've heard of Hyundai and LG.

Sorry I'm not adding any new info here with this post, but I'm hopefully prod-ing some people into Investigation Mode.

The upgrade stand mount with the green glass bottom is exactly as my buddies Daewoo 42" that he bought in jan 2004, which we all know is a NEC model.
I'm sure the pictures used are NOT what you get.
A few here bought the Ed version of the Hyundai at Costco's for the same price last fall, alot were returned.............

Any news on who makes the Viore, or has one?

Whoops. Sorry for never posting back in the thread. After nobody responded the first week I assumed nobody was going to.

To update those who were curious about this tv I did indeed buy one of these from Walmart. It was on clearance at the time and I got it for only $XXXX. Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to give it a testdrive yet. It's temporarily in a room with no cable access, but I have an Oppo DV971H scaling player coming in a day or so.

I have been discussing this with several other owners and we have a working theory on what this tv is. We believe it is using the FJH ALiS glass panel developed by Fujitsu/Hitachi a few years ago. This tv is 1024x1024 interlaced display, and ALiS (alternate lighting of surfaces) was just a really fancy way of saying it was interlaced as well. The Fujitsu interlaced panel was also 1024x1024. Sony, Sanyo, Philips, among others have all used this glass panel. It is being produced in large volumes under multiple brand names which is why they can offer it for a lower price.

The guys I've talked with who own the Viore and can watch it say it's a diamond in the rough. The one guy couldn't stop gushing about how amazing the picture quality is. I personally believe, based on the 1080i feed that was in the walmart store, that this Viore produces an HD picture on par with any plasma I've seen up to $6,000.

I can give a detailed summary of my feelings on the picture quality once my dvd player arrives and I can actually watch mine a little. :)

I have a few pictures on my webspace here to look at also:

The last one makes the screen looked very washed out because the camera's flash was on. My cybershot has one helluva flash. :)

http://spe.midco.net/tyrellgoetz/images/plasma/DSC00009.JPG
http://spe.midco.net/tyrellgoetz/images/plasma/DSC00010.JPG
http://spe.midco.net/tyrellgoetz/images/plasma/DSC00011.JPG

Originally posted by TQM
Well, I just found the 42" Viore HD Ready Plasma TV on Sam's Club website, could be the same one OP mentioned at Walmart. Price range about 2k.

Some Features:
Model: V42PD45M
1024 x 1024 resolution
4000:1 contrast ratio
1000 cd/m2 brightness
Component video input
S-Video input
DVI input

Yep this is the same tv. Sam's doesn't have it anymore, but still lists it because they're slow on the draw.

Originally posted by JoelH
Our local Wal-Mart has had this Viore 42" HD plasma on display for about a month. I don't want to violate forum rules, but it is very inexpensive for HD - under the price first mentioned above. PQ in the store looks decent but as everyone knows, this depends on so many setup and environment variables - I would say it's not quite as good as the Pioneer HD unit they were closing out just before, but again setup dependent.

In any case, the brand name & HD spec is not a mistake, hoax or anything else. I'm surprised it hasn't received more discussion than this.

Joel

That's what I've felt. I wasn't even in the market, being content to wait and see what SED does, but I've never seen such a great price on an HD plasma monitor that didn't look like garbage. The only thing I've seen that worries me so far is that the panel seem to exhibit burn-in with frightening ease. The menus burn in to the display within 2 minutes of being open. The picture is on torch mode though since I have not calibrated it yet. Do all plasmas have image retention this bad when they are new? The white screen function gets rid of it in less than a minute though.

Update: The Viore and the Oppo DV971H seem to get along well so far. In 480p and 720p anyway. 1080i is messed up, but it may be an Oppo thing.

Just wanted to say I bought the Viore 42" plasma today, hooked it up during lunch and all I can say is Wow! It looks great in HDTV, had to call Cox to turn on the HD for my DVR box and it was beautiful.
2 sets of SV inputs, 1 DVI, 2 component, 1 S-video, and 1 vga.
Set is quite and seems to render the picture nicely.
I am no audio/video pro but I know a nice picture when I see it.
This coupled with the phenomenal return policy of Sam's will allow me to sleep comfortably.
FYI, I found out from my brother (he is a mgr at Costco) that these stores such as Sam's and Costco have contracts with the vendor that gaurantee 100% credit for returned merchandise, thus why they have no expiration on returns.

i know a sams club that will ship it to you !! they had 14 of them as of thursday and they will ship it to your house for ups shipping cost - not jacked up ! mine was 61.38 ro ship it -- cant wait to get it and hook it up i will be driving it with a dish network 6000 hd reciever. anyoune that wants the info on how to get it respond and i will let u know i have the managers name and he was great to deal with plus they hooked me up as they want to move them not carying them anymore !

Hey Killer, I have had mine for about two weeks now. Still very happy, some things that are a bit odd
1. this plasma is not HDCP
2. takes time to recognize different signal, when switching from digital to HD takes about 10-20 seconds.
3. I have experienced mine locking up a few times when going from different formats. But I must say the quality of the picture is great and as I continue to look at different plasmas this one still seems the best deal for the money.

Hey Killer, I have had mine for about two weeks now. Still very happy, some things that are a bit odd
1. this plasma is not HDCP
2. takes time to recognize different signal, when switching from digital to HD takes about 10-20 seconds.
3. I have experienced mine locking up a few times when going from different formats. But I must say the quality of the picture is great and as I continue to look at different plasmas this one still seems the best deal for the money.


i have looked high and low and i cant find a hd plasma anywhere near this price i am going to use mine primarly for tv hooked to a dish hd pvr that i have on order also:) i have a projector setup for my movies etc but it sucks for datime viewing too many windows in my house -- i had a 32 " jvc tv that just smoaked - literaly so i need a new tv i dont want to wast my money on a standard def tv when i am getting a hd pvr! so this seems like the perfect choice for me -- update on my shipping for tv ups returned it to the store as they cant ship it upright as the markings on the box say so they just returned it the next day ! the manager called me and has aranged to have fedex freight pick it up they are strapping it to a pallot upright and shipping it 3 day freight ! -- cost 195.00 to ship it ! - but the manager is splitting the diferance with me so it is like 66.00 more for me -- i can live with that !! on another note i did not buy the extended waranty -- now im thinking i should have do you think i can get that at my locaql sams ? if it smokes in 3 years i can get a new model hd plasma for free from what the waranty sounds like :) -- what is the manufatures warranty ??

i hope i love my tv like you do -- im not expecting the best just -- way better then my 32 jvc !! :) :)

Killer, that is why i buy all high end items i can from sam's. they have 100% customer satisfaction. except for computers (6 months) you can bring it back for anything, anytime.

i just saw this one at costco look at this thread

it seems to have a lot of issues also i hope i made the right choice :)

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=491625&page=59&pp=30

well my tv just got here -- looks great !! strapped to a palet not a scratch on the box :) i will go home tonight then i will report back ! if the dvi does not sport hdcp what will happen if i hook a DISH Player-DVR 942 to it via dvi what will happen??- no picture or what ? any way around it ? i don't want to buy a cable if it wont work -- i have a componet cable already so im going to hook it to that - whats the do you think they will ever downgrade the picture over componet? i will let you know what it looks like tomorrow !!!!!!!!!

I have mine on order through sams club. Should be arriving next week. This is my first plasma and I want to make sure i don't screw it up. Can somebody who has this model please tell me what settings i need to adjust so that I don't have 'burn in' issues? Thanks, I am really looking forward to finally having HD picture quality.

Run a low gamma setting and use very low contrast during the first 100-300 hours of use. The phosphors are most susceptible to burn-in when they are new. Once they have aged a bit it's fine to run contrast at normal viewing levels. This panel exhibits burn-in very easily when brand new unless you crank that contrast control down.

Killer, that is why i buy all high end items i can from sam's. they have 100% customer satisfaction. except for computers (6 months) you can bring it back for anything, anytime.

does this mean that i can bring the tv back next year when sed comes out?? i cant belive they can stay in business like that ! why buy the 200 warranty if you can just bring the tv back to sams when it dies in 2 years -- seriously what is the policy -- :cool:

:) i hooked up the tv sorry it has token so long to post but i had a defective cable so i dident have it hooked up right ! i am very happy with the picture quality in hd -- awsom picture i haven't had the tv lock up between hd and sd- switches great :) the only things i don't like are
1 the time it takes to switch from component to another video source - slow
2 i new better to try this because i read that this is this tvs downfall but i could not resist to try it -- now i wish i didn't see it ! -- i popped in the matrix in my progressive scan dvd player set to 480p ant went to the scene where it is raining and neo has to choose between the red or the blue pill -- you know the one .

anyway that sene looks terrible and a lot of the dark seans in the movie are just as bad . it looked like dots all over the flesh tones - hard to describe just all the detail and sharp images were gone it looked like a low quality bmp file with stray pixels --
i don't know what to do now i like the tv for hd tv because most shows are bright and this has no affect. but on movies with dark seans it is bad!! is this the case on all low cost plasmas? am i expecting too much ? -that is why i asked about sams i figure i can run it for a while and see if anything new comes out . just don't want to be stuck with it if i keep it too long --


do you think i would see the same thing with a Vizio P42HD it is only 300 more at costco

IS that straight out of the box, or have you adjust PQ settings to meet Avia or other HT calibrations? I am a little worried now that mine is on order. I want to use for HD tv but for DVD viewing as well. I will report on PQ and take exceptional note to the black level PQ when my Viore arrives.

killer and desert, I will say that I am very happy with my VIore, for DVD as well as HD picture. I will have to exchange mine because it locks up when going from HD to digital signal, the only work around is if I change inputs while changing the signal simultaneously. Other than that I expect the new one to be just fine. I have realized that other than it lacking HDCP, it is the best bargain out there.

i played with it all last night and i have decided i am going to keep it !! :) the hd picture is soooooooooooooo awsome and most everything i throw at it looks great it was just the dvd playback in the matrix that i was not happy with and that was just with the default settings on the tv minus i toned down the bright to like 30 and turned down the gama - don't remember the setting - i have a front projection ptl300u that i play my movies on anyhow. just figured when it is a bright day i could play them on the plasma. also those results were on like a 49 dollar dvd player - but it was progressive scan with componet out . the digital channels are so awsome that i don't think i would do any better in this price range. the p42hde is 2k at costco and i read people complain about the black levels on it too i need to get some dve so i can set it up properly . don't sweat it if you are going from a regular 32 inch tv as i was the difference is night and day !! - and im in it for under after tax :)

Thanks Light and Killer. I am going from an old 27" RCA so I am sure i will have the WOW factor for quite awhile. I am still a little worried about burn in and wondering if i should have went with a flat LCD instead, however for the price the best I could do is a 32" LCD. I am still anxiously waiting for the Viore to arrive, and I am sure I will have many questions on set up so thanks again for the feedback.

Finally spoke with tech support and they had me change the setting on my cable box from 480i to 480p and no longer any input lock up. so I am working well and good to go as well as still very happy with my purchase.

Finally spoke with tech support and they had me change the setting on my cable box from 480i to 480p and no longer any input lock up. so I am working well and good to go as well as still very happy with my purchase.

Why only 480p, that is not HD. Should it not be 1080i or 720p? Those are the two used by the HD channels. Thanks. Still waiting for the truck but getting prepared. :)

Not sure how reliable but I saw a post on another forum stating that Viore is manufactured specifically for Walmart and Sam's Club by Akai.

480p is only for the non-HD or digital channels, the hd are displayed in 1080i

480p is only for the non-HD or digital channels, the hd are displayed in 1080i

Right, 480 is digital standar, but does the box have 2 settings or just one. The one for Comcast has only one choice, you can only make one choice from:

1. 480i
2 480p
3 720p
4 1080i

I guess my question is, if you one have one choice and set it to 420p, do you still get the HD at 1080i??? Thanks :confused:

Right, 480 is digital standar, but does the box have 2 settings or just one. The one for Comcast has only one choice, you can only make one choice from:

1. 480i
2 480p
3 720p
4 1080i

I guess my question is, if you one have one choice and set it to 420p, do you still get the HD at 1080i??? Thanks :confused:

This is not quite right, on the Motorola it has a setting for "everything" and a "4:3 override" that overrides the first setting for SD. 1080i and 480p would be a valid setting for these two options.

If you set the 4:3 override to 420p, do you letterboc on left and right on Viore, or does the screen get filled in when viewing non HD channels?

I have mine set just like Marty said. 1080i and sub setting is 480p (4:3 stretch).

I have mine set just like Marty said. 1080i and sub setting is 480p (4:3 stretch).

OK, many thanks. One last question, DVI is not HDCP? Are you using component and is this the only cable needed from the cable box?? Is it sending both the HD and SD content through the same component cable or do i need to connect another cable for the SD stuff. Were you able to get the DVI to work?? Thanks

OK, many thanks. One last question, DVI is not HDCP? Are you using component and is this the only cable needed from the cable box?? Is it sending both the HD and SD content through the same component cable or do i need to connect another cable for the SD stuff. Were you able to get the DVI to work?? Thanks

i have one component cable for everything on my dishnetwork setup works great still dont know if it would work with my dvi as it is not hdcp and i dont want to buy a 20 ft long dvi to see that it dont work :) if anyone has a dish pvr 942 and knows that it will work with a tv w/o hdcp please let me know - thanks

the picture looks so good on component that im not that woried about it but if it will work for sure i may try it :)

It is cable system dependent exactly what features are enabled on the cable box, so DVI may or may not be enabled in your area. I only have experience with Motorola. On that, you can expect all video and audio outputs to have signal at all times be it SD or HD programming. In this area DVI has had HDCP enabled for somewhere in excess of a year. Some say the quality of SD transferred over S-video is superior to that transferred over component or DVI, your preference may vary.

Not sure how reliable but I saw a post on another forum stating that Viore is manufactured specifically for Walmart and Sam's Club by Akai.

That would be me. This information was passed onto me by email from a person who spent some time researching the origins of the brand out of curiosity.

does this mean that i can bring the tv back next year when sed comes out?? i cant belive they can stay in business like that ! why buy the 200 warranty if you can just bring the tv back to sams when it dies in 2 years -- seriously what is the policy -- :cool:

:) i hooked up the tv sorry it has token so long to post but i had a defective cable so i dident have it hooked up right ! i am very happy with the picture quality in hd -- awsom picture i haven't had the tv lock up between hd and sd- switches great :) the only things i don't like are
1 the time it takes to switch from component to another video source - slow
2 i new better to try this because i read that this is this tvs downfall but i could not resist to try it -- now i wish i didn't see it ! -- i popped in the matrix in my progressive scan dvd player set to 480p ant went to the scene where it is raining and neo has to choose between the red or the blue pill -- you know the one .

anyway that sene looks terrible and a lot of the dark seans in the movie are just as bad . it looked like dots all over the flesh tones - hard to describe just all the detail and sharp images were gone it looked like a low quality bmp file with stray pixels --
i don't know what to do now i like the tv for hd tv because most shows are bright and this has no affect. but on movies with dark seans it is bad!! is this the case on all low cost plasmas? am i expecting too much ? -that is why i asked about sams i figure i can run it for a while and see if anything new comes out . just don't want to be stuck with it if i keep it too long --


do you think i would see the same thing with a Vizio P42HD it is only 300 more at costco


You've pretty much mirrored my experience. Sorr to hear it. It's my understanding that most plasma tvs suffer from this issue to some extent, but I'm amazed that it could be this bad. Mine was completely unwatchable, and I'm not the over exaggerating picky type. I've moved on to looking at LCD to tide me over until SED in large sizes are affordable.

The only signal I can watch through DVI is my HD tuner. The tuner has HDCP for DVD's and I have to switch to component to view them. I am returning my DVI cable because I can't really enjoy it. The best way to watch a SD signal is through S-video. If you try to watch SD through component it is too grainy. The S-video connection is much smoother for SD signal. I would recommend utilizing the S-video for regular channels and Component for HD.

for guys who are interested to know which company makes viore plasma tv,it is made by a japanes company known as akai.

Well since this thread is still going I will contribute. I was at Sam's today and they have the Voire 42" plasma for $XXXX. This is a great price! From the looks of the thread I think everyone is happy with their purchase and I might just have to pull the trigger on this one. For me its still alot of money to spend on a tv, because in my case, its for the bedroom not the living room.

But I do have one question. Has anyone tried a upconvert DVD with this tv?? If so what were the results??

upconverting will not work very well as this plasma does not have HDCP. So, when you try to connect an upconverting DVD player through DVI output it will not play.
This has been a great plasma as far as quality and picture. I recommend it.

However mine died last night. I may go ahead and get the 50" Akai at Sam's but not sure yet. When I was trying to play a DVD and changed the input the screen went blank and has not repsonded since. I have tried unplugging and everything.

I will say this is why I shop at Sam's. Almost any product you buy will have some bad apples, I just would like to check out the 50". Will keep you posted. :(

You need to use a dvd player that doesn't have HDCP.

i went to my sams yesterday and much to my suprise i saw the viore for sale for only XXXX they had like 7 of them in stock it kind of gets me as i paid more then that and i paid 130.00 to ship it here - oh well if anyone wants one the sams is in ocoee florida i think they are shipping them to a lot of stores to get rid of the ones they were selling online.

Just started setting up my new Viore after reading about you all and your trips to Sams. Has anyone figured out what the programming code is for Viore. My Cox box arrives tomorrow and would like to have a head start.

One last question.... Am I correct in that you would hook up the cable box to component 1 and a dvd player to component 2?

Thanks for the great info and I hope this thing works out. If not, there is always the return policy at Sams...

My Viore finally arrived today! Hoepfully I can set it up this evening. Did anybody get the remote code yet? I have dish network and i will go through the code search but do not have much faith that it will find the code. I also jotted some codes i picked up from other boards for other Akai brand Tv's. Woth a shot i suppose. I called Akai and they referred me to Dish and told me it was their job to provide me with a code for this plasma tv. We shall see.......

not aware of the what code you want, if you mean remote code, i dont know I have a harmony remote :confused:

I've been looking for the website for Viore and stumbeled onto this site. I guess no one else has found the site either. I actually purchased a viore plasma tv today at Sam's - a really good buy because it was the last one - a display. There was no manual with it and I am so inept with technology that I am having trouble getting the thing hooked up. In my narrow world of limited technology, I thought I could just plug it in to the wall and hook up my cable directly to the tv like my old tv. I discovered that there was no place to plug in my cable connection. Can someone help me? I'm pretty good with manuals and instructions, but without them, I'm lost.

I've been looking for the website for Viore and stumbeled onto this site. I guess no one else has found the site either. I actually purchased a viore plasma tv today at Sam's - a really good buy because it was the last one - a display. There was no manual with it and I am so inept with technology that I am having trouble getting the thing hooked up. In my narrow world of limited technology, I thought I could just plug it in to the wall and hook up my cable directly to the tv like my old tv. I discovered that there was no place to plug in my cable connection. Can someone help me? I'm pretty good with manuals and instructions, but without them, I'm lost.

You need to plug in through component cables, 3 for vido 2 for audio, and you need a high definition box if you want hdtv. call viore and they will email you the manual

Thanks for the info wwin. I'll give this a try.

Thanks for the info from everyone. Sam's near me has them for $XXXX. I want to buy it and put it in my family room, however, I have standard cable. No box, no digital, no HD. I am too cheap to get the digital package right now, because my kids watch the tv most of them time. I will do what is necessary when everything goes HD in 2006 or 2007. I would like to get it because I want to watch dvds on it when I can tear my kids away from it. My question for all is, can I hook a direct cable from the wall to the Viore, and if not, what do I need to do? Also, if I do, in some form, get it hooked to the standard cable, will there be a time lapse when swithching the channels due to the cable being standard, and the tv being HD looking for or expecting an HD signal to come through. Also, does it come with speakers? I know all of this sounds like I am a techno idiot, well I am. A little help is appreciated. Also, what about the 50" Akai HDTV Plasma that Sam's is selling for $XXXX? It beats the price of any other plasma I have seen.

Thanks!

Tim

well ttrylo, I am very happy with my Viore, the biggest thing is the price and no matter what you can't beat it. You will need a cable box at least, the viore does not have a tuner. If you really need a tuner Sams had a HD plasma on its website that is just a couple hundred more than the viore. As I always say you just cant beat Sams return policy. Go for it.

well ttrylo, I am very happy with my Viore, the biggest thing is the price and no matter what you can't beat it. You will need a cable box at least, the viore does not have a tuner. If you really need a tuner Sams had a HD plasma on its website that is just a couple hundred more than the viore. As I always say you just cant beat Sams return policy. Go for it.

You had previously posted that your Viore had "died", I was wondering if you were able to get it going or if you exchange for a new one. Mine has been great so far. Thanks

I love Sam's, just brought it in and they gave me a new one and a refund of $200 because the price had dropped. No probs since :D

I need to access the service menu on my Viore to be able to stretch the DVI input picture. The picture coming in from component is fine and covers the whole screen, The picture coming in from DVI input does not cover the whole screen. Can anybody tell me how to do this?

Just bought the Viore. The HD channels are fantastic, but the digital channels are grainy. Also, does anyone know how to make the audio better. I have played with the audio settings but it just doesn't sound as good as our old TV. Maybe it is just going to be like that since the speakers are located in the back. Any tips on making audio better and improving the look of the digital channels. Also, what is the best solution to switching from HD to digital. Any tricks to make it happen faster or is this something I will need to get used to?

Just bought the Viore. The HD channels are fantastic, but the digital channels are grainy. Also, does anyone know how to make the audio better. I have played with the audio settings but it just doesn't sound as good as our old TV. Maybe it is just going to be like that since the speakers are located in the back. Any tips on making audio better and improving the look of the digital channels. Also, what is the best solution to switching from HD to digital. Any tricks to make it happen faster or is this something I will need to get used to?

I am afraid that the only way to make the sound better is to attach external speakers, preferably through amp. , then sound is awesome. The internal speakers are not too good, that's the problem.
Picture quality is great on HD, grainy on some SD channels, but I think all HD TVs are like that.
To make the switch from HD to SD channels fast, make sure to set up your cable box to deliver 420P for the SD channels, not 480i. This might also improve SD channels PQ.
Let me know.
By the way, Walmart.com now has the Viore in both silver and black and added a tuner but it is $275.00 more than the last price at Samsclub.com, which currently does not have

Just wondering if anyone else has bought one of these with football season getting ever-closer... Or if anyone that had one has changed his opinon on it. :) I was playing around with one of these at Sam's at lunch today, and after much adjustment to the color, tint, contrast, etc. I got it looking as good or better than the $2400 set two places down.

BTW, not that I would doubt it to begin with, but Akai being the manufacturer makes perfect sense... Sam's carries many Akai products, and in fact the TV I bought two TVs ago was an Akai that I was very happy with. I wonder if younger people even know that Akai used to be a very well-respected audio company back in the 80s and early 90s...

But anyway, to a newbie like myself, is the fact that the set is 1024x1024 a negative? That seems to be an unusual resolution.

I really don't want to go over or even that close to $2k, but for $1500 this thing is mighty tempting...

The 1024x1024 resolution is an easy giveaway to the panel's pedigree. FHP (Fujitsu Hitachi Plasma) is the only place in the world that makes panels in that resolution. It is ALiS glass (alternate lighting of surfaces). Most likely an old generation panel that was easy to acquire. ALiS panels have shown up in a variety of brands over the years.

The 1024x1024 resolution is an easy giveaway to the panel's pedigree. FHP (Fujitsu Hitachi Plasma) is the only place in the world that makes panels in that resolution. It is ALiS glass (alternate lighting of surfaces). Most likely an old generation panel that was easy to acquire. ALiS panels have shown up in a variety of brands over the years.

I dont know if the panel is old or not, and the speakers are bad, but if you are buying for PQ in HD, I have not seen a better PQ at any price level.

Thanks... I found that thread on the anime site... Did I read correctly that the 1024x1024 means that 720p needs to be "downconverted", for lack of a better term? About half of what I'd watch would be on ABC and Fox, both of whom use 720p.

As with any fixed pixel display the signal will be scaled to match the native rate of the panel. In this case any incoming signal is scaled to 1024x1024. It's the same with all plasmas, since none of them perfectly match a HD resolution. The common 1024x768 has to be scaled when a 720p signal is input as well. ALiS panels are praised for having above average performance with non-HD material actually since the quasi-interlacing affect hides some artifacts.

Thanks... I found that thread on the anime site... Did I read correctly that the 1024x1024 means that 720p needs to be "downconverted", for lack of a better term? About half of what I'd watch would be on ABC and Fox, both of whom use 720p.

I dont think you need to downconvert, the cable box can be set to output 1080i, that is what I set my comcast box hd channels too and all hd channels look terrific :)

Well, I just found the 42" Viore HD Ready Plasma TV on Sam's Club website, could be the same one OP mentioned at Walmart. Price range about 2k.

Some Features:
Model: V42PD45M
1024 x 1024 resolution
4000:1 contrast ratio
1000 cd/m2 brightness
Component video input
S-Video input
DVI input


I just instaled this unit and paid XXXX. So far it works super.
:)

The 1024x1024 resolution is an easy giveaway to the panel's pedigree. FHP (Fujitsu Hitachi Plasma) is the only place in the world that makes panels in that resolution. It is ALiS glass (alternate lighting of surfaces). Most likely an old generation panel that was easy to acquire. ALiS panels have shown up in a variety of brands over the years.

Is the ALiS a negitive thing

Bill :)

Is the ALiS a negitive thing

Bill :)

Xcaliber seems to imply that it is a negative thing. But from my experience I dont believe it is.

and it also provides

1. efficiency, uses 1/2 volts of regular plasma
2. longer panel life

First, Viore is NOT Panasonic. It is made by MTS Tech., which produces the Balance line of products. Second, the Viore has the highest resolution I have seen as of yet on a plasma. Also, in the manual it has a listed life of 100,000 hours, which again is the best I've seen. Personally, I'd go with the Sanyo for $XXXX, but the Viore does have some nice features.

First, Viore is NOT Panasonic. It is made by MTS Tech., which produces the Balance line of products. Second, the Viore has the highest resolution I have seen as of yet on a plasma. Also, in the manual it has a listed life of 100,000 hours, which again is the best I've seen. Personally, I'd go with the Sanyo for $XXXX, but the Viore does have some nice features.

Who says Panasonic, Viore is made by Akai, confirmed, I own it

I have had my Viore for about 2 months now; I am very happy with it. You can't deny that it has poor black display but other than that I love it. The major factor in me remaining happy with mine is price. There is still no better deal for the price. The Viore is not for an Audio/Video professional, but for the "regular guy" like me who wants the space saving and great HD picture, really great HD picture, the Viore is the best deal going.

Again, if the movie has a lot of dark scenes, it gets annoying, but regular HDTV is absolutely phenomenal. Actually the only time I have been down is when watching a DVD with lots of dark scenes but I have never had a bad experience with HDTV. :p

Greetings! Just purchased mine from Sams for $1200. I have connected the viore via DVI to my HD Sat box from dish network (810). I tried all of the output resolutions (1080i, 720p, and 480p), but all have 4:3 content fixed at 4:3 and are not filling the screen. Any suggestions here?

Does anyone else have bad pixelation in black material? I see color specs in blacks for some reason. Also, in moving content, there is pixelation in the peripheral items that are not the primary focus of the shot - i.e. backgrounds not people.

I also saw green string like pixelation around faces yesterday on food network. It is a SD channel, but the facial features were outlined with this thin green line. Suggestions?

Just to see if it was the source material, I hooked up the iScan HD+ scaler in between the STB and the display. No improvement.

I will hook the display up to the STB via component cables today and may help. I need to change a setting or two on the scaler if I am going to run through that because the initial test could not lock onto the signal from the STB.

Please let me know if anyone has seen this type of pixelization and if you have a fix for it.

Thanks!
Chris


P.S. the thread on cnet.com has some people purchasing this display for $xxx at walmart.

Shiner you must have a bad setting somewhere, my screen is always full. My connections are through the component cables though. I have always said the blacks on this set are poor, but other than that you should be happy.

Also wwwin, Sams as far as I know does not sell return items. When I exchanged mine the price was dropped as well. Sams gets 100% credit for returns on this item.

wwwin,
I do not want to belabor the issue - but his post says nothing about a return rack - "I picked one of these up today at Wal-Mart for $998.00 still in the box. " If I am not mistaken, grimjack only had the one post on that page and again - nothing about a returned item (his profile shows 1 post ever on the site)

I don't want to argue about this with you. We both have the tv, I was simply letting people know where I found it and what I paid. I hope you are enjoying the display, we are. Have a nice night.

contacted the viore tech and this is what he had to say.
this plasma does not support DVI-HDCP. it supports component HDCP.
the DVI is meant to be hooked up to a computer. That is why we are getting this. Well i have mine hooked up to a HD tuner. When the screen is set the "native" my picture is skewed 50 percent to the right. My fix has been to set the plasma to full screen mode and using the aspect ratio feature on my HD tuner; setting it to 'expand' mode. this has filled the screen out fine.

Did you get an answer to your question?

contacted the viore tech and this is what he had to say.
this plasma does not support DVI-HDCP. it supports component HDCP.
the DVI is meant to be hooked up to a computer. That is why we are getting this. Well i have mine hooked up to a HD tuner. When the screen is set the "native" my picture is skewed 50 percent to the right. My fix has been to set the plasma to full screen mode and using the aspect ratio feature on my HD tuner; setting it to 'expand' mode. this has filled the screen out fine.

Did you get an answer to your question?

Thanks, but I believe that you can use DVI input other than computer if the source is not HDCP compliant. I use the Oppo DVD player, which is not HDCP compliant, which I can use over DVI with the Viore, except that it underscans a little bit, so I wanted to overscan with the service menu of the TV. I knew that Viore support would not understand the question, that is why I never called them. To me, Viore tech support has been worthless, and left much to be desired.
I appreciate your time and reply though.
By the way, to show you how worthless they are, there is no such thing as "component HDCP". HDCP only applies to a pure digital connection, DVI or HDMI only. It does not apply to an analog component connection. UNBELIEVABLE HOW POORLY TRAINED THEY ARE.

Bump for any new/revised opinions...

I'm almost positive I'm set to get one of these as a gift within just a few days, and I hope it's a good use of the money. I just saw the 37" Olevia LCD set at RadioShack for a very comparable price, and wonder which would be better.

Most of my posts are on HDTV OTA reception, but I don't know much about the TVs other than what I see in the stores. :confused: IMO the plasma might look a little better, but is the hassle of watching on low contrast at first (and other plasma-specific concerns) worth it? Or is that not so much an issue any more? I hate to act like an info mooch but this is coming as a surprise to me so I haven't been reseaching things like this...

Bump for any new/revised opinions...

I'm almost positive I'm set to get one of these as a gift within just a few days, and I hope it's a good use of the money. I just saw the 37" Olevia LCD set at RadioShack for a very comparable price, and wonder which would be better.

Most of my posts are on HDTV OTA reception, but I don't know much about the TVs other than what I see in the stores. :confused: IMO the plasma might look a little better, but is the hassle of watching on low contrast at first (and other plasma-specific concerns) worth it? Or is that not so much an issue any more? I hate to act like an info mooch but this is coming as a surprise to me so I haven't been reseaching things like this...

It's a personal opinion whether a hassle or not, nobody can tell you that. If you want OTA reception, be careful as the Viore that I have does not have a tuner, you would need cable box, satellite or detached tuner.

I have enjoyed my 42" Viore for about a month. I came home yesterday after work and had just rented Batman Begins. I pop in the DVD and power up the Viore. It powers but then the screen stays BLACK! No regular blue screen saying that it's searching for a signal. After multiple attempts at unplugging and replugging it in (I shouldn't even have to do this since it's NEW!), i searched for my SAMSCLUB RECEIPT. Boxed it all back up and headed off to return it. I paid $XXXX and now it's ringing up $XXXX for those of you lucky enough to find them still sitting at sams. I had NO hassle with the return one month later. I understand that they have a VERY liberal return policy, like 6 month or more.
I enjoyed it when i had it but now that it broke here are my thoughts.
1) Plasma has a bad problem displaying black at least this one did. i tolerated it.
2) Don't buy cheap brands.
3) ONLY BUY FROM SAMS and COSTCO because they have such a nice return policy. Not that I would do this but I heard some cheapos will buy a laptop and then 'trade them in' every 6 months for new ones because these clubs have such nice return policies. This is abusing the system a bit but shows how liberal their policy is.
4) i think i'm going back to crt projectors b/c they are still superior.
5) THIS DOES NOT COME WITH ANY TUNERS NTSC OR ATSC!

I think I can give a review of one of these now, as I did in fact get one for my birthday.

When I first plugged it in, I was disappointed. My mom and dad got a 46" DLP with HDTV a few months ago, and it looks amazing on HD. My CBS station in 1080i looked very good on the Viore, but the ABC 720p broadcast on that Saturday looked really lousy. I assumed that was all due to the ALiS which isn't as suited to progressive broadcasts, and decided to return the set. I had to wait, though -- the thing was too big to fit in my car, so I needed to wait until a friend with an SUV could help.

However -- A week or so later, I saw Monday Night Football on ABC, and it looked absolutely amazing. As it turns out, the broadcast I saw that first Saturday afternoon wasn't in HD, even though it was a huge national college game. What's more, I saw part of the MNF game at my parents' house and then just a few minutes later came home and saw the same game on the Viore, so I was able to make a good comparison. Once I saw this, I realized that the game actually looked BETTER on my Viore than it did on the DLP. I'd simply remembered the DLP as being better than it really was.

What's more, just last week I was at Best Buy looking at something and went over to check out the TVs. There was a high-def college game on CBS, and I really studied them for a long time to see how mine compared. Once I got home, I put on the same game and realized that my Viore looked as good as anything at Best Buy. It really did look amazing.

BUT... The very next day, I had the Viore on and realized that something had changed with it. The blacks on my set, even the bars on the side on 4:3 feeds, looked blue instead of black. And there was a blotchedy look on scenes that wasn't there before. I almost thought maybe I'd over-adjusted a setting or something, because at times it didn't look so bad.

Then the next day, my set wouldn't even turn on. :(

So my bottom line is that it looks plenty good. I was guilty of remembering the other set I'd seen as perfectly flawless, when in fact it and all big screens have some tiny flaws that show up from time to time. The biggest complaint I had with the Viore was that at times the colors were TOO intense and bright, even with the brightness and contrast turned way down, and that it seemed like one channel would look great, then I'd change the channel and have to adjust my settings again to make it look as good. But I suspect that's a problem a lot of plasmas have, and is based more on each broadcaster having different settings more than the set itself.

Of course, the thing totally dying on me two weeks after I got it is a major disappointment. I don't know what I'll do now. I'd really decided to keep it, because there's nothing else in its price range that compares. I don't want to play $1500 for an EDTV set, and I don't want to pay $2000+, either.

However, it seems that DLPs and plasmas (in fact, just about any non-tube TV 37" and larger) are getting pushed heavily everywhere, not just by Wal-Mart. It's gotten to the point that you can get a 42" plasma with the same features as a 32" LCD, for the same price. At places like Wal-Mart or Sam's Club, the 42" may actually be *cheaper*. I can safely say that 42" is the pricing sweet-spot today.

Reminder to everyone to please read the stickies at the top of the forum.

NO PRICING OTHER THAN MSRP IS ALLOWED!!!

Thanks.

Sorry about the price posting. It wont happen again.

I am a newb to whole "HD ready" world. Is this TV's specs about as good as you can get for the price you pay?

Here are the specs that I can find. (Although different specs were quoted in the first couple pages of this thread.)

Includes NTSC TV tuner; requires a set-top box, purchased separately, to receive HD (high definition) signals
Widescreen (16:9) ratio for the true big picture
1024 x 1024 resolution
2000:1 contrast ratio
1000 cd/m2 brightness
ED and HD compatible: 480p, 720p, 1080i
PC support: VGA, SVGA, XGA, SXGA, UXGA
Component video input: RCA x2
S-video input: DIN 4 pin x1
Analog VGA input: D-Sub 15 pin x1
DVI input
5W x 5W built-in rear speakers for a clean, uncluttered look
View angle: 160-degrees H/V
16.7 million colors possible
Satin silver finish
Size, with stand: 41"W x 3.5"D x 28"H; size, w/out stand: 41"W x 3.5"D x 25.2"H
Weight: 77.2 lbs

I would really appreciate any more reviews or advice.

This thread is locked and I would appreciate it if everyone could read this (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=488095).

Okay, now it is unlocked I would appreciate it though if everyone would respect the wishes of the owners of this site and abide by the rules.

Thanks.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming.

So is the Viore V42PD45M another one of those "not quite HD" panels?

I am seriously considering pulling the trigger on this. The only thing is that I'm not too sure I want to get out and face the madness of BF. I tried calling Walmart and asking what the manufacturer/model # was, or how many they would have on hand, and they couldn't tell me. Typical BS that I would expect from our nation's largest employer.

:mad:

I am seriously considering pulling the trigger on this. The only thing is that I'm not too sure I want to get out and face the madness of BF. I tried calling Walmart and asking what the manufacturer/model # was, or how many they would have on hand, and they couldn't tell me. Typical BS that I would expect from our nation's largest employer.

:mad:


good thing about ole wal-marks is that they have a 90 day return policy with receipt.

i think im gonna pull the trigger and see what happens

What the hell.... I'll probably be out there at 3am standing in line with the rest of the tools. If I don't like it, I'll take it back. Wish I knew a little bit more about it though. :confused:

it says in the online ad, available online also.

I'm new to Plasma screens but saw this in the ads. Looks like a nice deal. Before I brave the "elements" tomorrow, I have a quick question...

Does the new Viore tv advertised have a tuner for standard cable viewing? I can't find good specs or any pictures of the connections online anywhere.

I just have a cable wire coming out of the wall and don't want to have to get a cable box for normal viewing. I'd get a OTA HD box (already have the antenna, etc. for my rear projection set) for HD stuff, but need to know if I can just pull this out of the box and hook up my cable line to get my standard 75 channels.

Any help is very appreciated.

I'm new to Plasma screens but saw this in the ads. Looks like a nice deal. Before I brave the "elements" tomorrow, I have a quick question...

Does the new Viore tv advertised have a tuner for standard cable viewing? I can't find good specs or any pictures of the connections online anywhere.

I just have a cable wire coming out of the wall and don't want to have to get a cable box for normal viewing. I'd get a OTA HD box (already have the antenna, etc. for my rear projection set) for HD stuff, but need to know if I can just pull this out of the box and hook up my cable line to get my standard 75 channels.

Any help is very appreciated.

Just about ANY TV with an NTSC tuner will get the cable analog channels (those below Channel 100). For the cable digital channels and cable HDTV channels, you'd need a CableCard-compatible HDTV, which has a QAM decoder for cable HDTV channels.

One caution: These TVs must have been manufactured prior to July 1, since all TVs 36" and above manufactured after that date must have ATSC tuners, per the FCC mandate. That probably means there are limited quantities, and do not have the latest improvements. If the display has no built-in tuner, it is classified as a monitor, and this mandate does not apply.

Well according to their website the BF deal for the 42" is indeed EDTV (not HDTV as hoped for). See link below. Well looks like I won't be getting up and standing in line at Wallyworld tomorrow morning. :mad:

{mod note: no retail links with other than MSRP, please. Thanks!}

EDIT

Whoops. My bad... didn' t know you couldn't link a deal (thought it was for posting only). Anyways....here's the specs:


Item Description


Improve your movies dramatically when you watch them on this 42" Plasma EDTV. It's capable of displaying the enhanced definition (ED) of 480p progressive scan DVD players. Better yet, the integrated ATSC tuner lets you receive HD (high definition) broadcast signals without a separate set-top box.

Display Type: 42" Plasma Display Panel
Screen Aspect Ratio: 16:9
Resolution: 852 x 480, Pixel Pitch: 1.08 x 1.08 mm
Contrast Ratio: 3000 x 1
Viewing Angle: 160 Degree
ATSC Tuner Built In; lets you receive HD (high definition) broadcast signals without a separate set-top box
7W x 7W Internal Speakers
Brightness: 1000 cd/m2
PC Resolution Supporting: VGA, SVGA, XGA (Auto Convert to WVGA)
Scan system: Progressive
Digital Comb Filter: Digital 2-Line
Film Mode Pull Down Conversion: Yes
Wide Mode: Zoom (Fill Screen 16:9); Normal (4:3); Panorama; TV Mode; Letter Box
Stereo Decode: MTS
Tone Control: Yes
Input Terminals: Composite Video Input: RCA x 1 set; S-Video Input: Mini Din 4 Pin x1; Component Video Input: (Y/Pb/Pr/YCbCr Auto-Detect): RCA x 2 sets; DVI (HDCP) Input : DVI Connector x1
Stereo Audio Input: RCA x 5 sets
Analog RGB Input: D-Sub 15 Pin x1
Audio Input for PC: RCA x1
RS-232 Input: D-Sub 9 Pin x1
Audio Output: RCA x 1 set
Unit Size (W x H x D): 41.3"W x 25.9"H x 3.9"D
Unit Weight: 80.67 lbs



Lots of people worked up to buy this thing. Oh well....live and learn. :mad:

I got the Viore 42" EDTV Plasma this morning at Wal Mart. They only had 12 and I was number 10

There were 2 reasons why I bought it. 1 is because of the price...$$$ is not too shabby and 2 is because I needed to replace my 13 year old 31" Hitachi CRT.

I have Direct TV and the picture quality is decent....better than my old Hitachi.

Sound quality sucks and the speakers are in the back

DVD quality at 480p is outstanding. Blows away my Hitachi.

I would recommend it for people like me who just want an upgrade from an older TV.

I wouldnt recommend it as the center piece in your home theater. I am going to purchase a 56" Sammy HDTV DLP for my theater in the basement

{mod note: no pricing, please. Thanks!}

EDIR

being an edtv, the 480p dvds should look good since its native res.

being an edtv, the 480p dvds should look good since its native res.


Any idea why some standard channels on DTV look crappier than others on the Plasma?

compression. some channels on DTV and cable are compressed more than others. gotta squeeze in as much as you can...especially pay crap.

I decided to buy the Viore 42" EDTV plasma display from Walmart's Black Friday. The model number is PDP4210EA. It does come with NTSC and ATSC tuners and mine was manufactured in October.

Later in the day, I saw a Fry's Black Friday ad from Orange County, California that had the Akai 42" HDTV plasma display for not much more.

I still don't see anything in the manual so far to indicate the life expectancy of the display.

I decided to buy the Viore 42" EDTV plasma display from Walmart's Black Friday. The number is PDP4210EA. It does come with NTSC and ATSC tuners and mine was manufactured in October.

Later in the day, I saw a Fry's Black Friday ad from Orange County, California that had the Akai 42" HDTV plasma display for not much more.

I still don't see anything in the manual so far to indicate the life expectancy of the display.



How do you like it? I really enjoy mine, especially watching DVDs.

is this tv made by sanyo? if not then someone is trying to dupe customers. i just seen a 42" hdtv plasma set at wally world and in the center of the bottom of the cabinet it says sanyo. on the right lower corner of same set it says vizon it also states that it has hdtv tuner built in,but,with so many finger prints ans scratches from kids on the front glass you couldn't tell alot about the pic quality and it was under 2 grand

I too picked one up at the WALMART sale. Does anyone know what code works to put into a DISH Network remote so I can power off and change volume for the VIORE set?

MODS NOTE:

This is the last friendly reminder about not posting prices, talking about sales, discounts, coupons, etc.

Thread will be closed without further notice.

Thanks.

Dave

MODS NOTE:

This is the last friendly reminder about not posting prices, talking about sales, discounts, coupons, etc.

Thread will be closed without further notice.

Thanks.

Dave

I see you've had a lot of issues with pricing in the ads. I read the rules and I want to make sure you are not taking issue with my post. Or, if so, I would like to understand how I offended the letter or spirit of the rules.

I used the words "Black Friday" the day after "Black Friday." In both instances, I described a special one-time purchase for each store of an item that was not available before or after "Black Friday" at any price at either store by the time I posted.

To ensure that I stayed within forum rules, I specifically did not mention the price differential -- which would have been extraordinarily useful information for people looking for these models to resurface somewhere, someday, at some price.

So, while I mentioned a "Black Friday ad," it constituted a well-understood reference to an historical time when the Viore and Akai were formerly available. I did not discuss price. As each display unit was a one-day only offering it was not a "sale" -- at least not in the context of a discount of some higher regular price before or after the "sale." And, I did not mention a coupon.

Are there other issues that I have misunderstood about your rules?

Thx, vendorz

How do you like it? I really enjoy mine, especially watching DVDs.

So far, so good. I have digital cable, but not hi-def. As noted above in the thread, the picture is nothing special with some of the regular channels, but the digital channels look good.

I thought I was having a problem with the sound, but decided it was either the source material or a set-up issue. I connected my amp by RCA audio output jacks on display and left the internal speakers on, which resulted in a distinct decrease in sound quality. But, the manual instructs in a note that the internal speakers should be turned off when external amps or speakers are connected. After I disconnected the external amp AND restarted the display, the sound quality returned to normal.

Some have complained about the sound quality. It's nothing to write home about, but it is much better than my 15-year old RCA TV with stereo sound. I cranked the display's sound all the way to the top without particularly audible noise, and I use the volume control of the cable box or amp for fine adjustment. Ultimately, I do rely on the amp and external speakers for quality sound.

Purchased the Enhanced Definition Plasma "VIORE" from WALMART on Black Friday for $$$. Never seen or heard of the brand before....relied on owner comments made by posters here at AVS. Extremely surprise with the picture quality.... DIRECTV-HTL via DVI, XBOX via component. My father bought one...... connected via standard DIRECTV S-Video and again great picture quality. I recommend this unit without any reservation.....for the price.

Happy Holidays!

Mod note: no price talk other than MSRP, please. Thanks!

Purchased the Enhanced Definition Plasma "VIORE" from WALMART on Black Friday for $$$. Never seen or heard of the brand before....relied on owner comments made by posters here at AVS. Extremely surprise with the picture quality.... DIRECTV-HTL via DVI, XBOX via component. My father bought one...... connected via standard DIRECTV S-Video and again great picture quality. I recommend this unit without any reservation.....for the price.

Happy Holidays!

Mod note: no price talk other than MSRP, please. Thanks!


I have the Plasma hooked up via S-Video to the Direct TV receiver. My receiver only has S-Video and composite inputs. The Plasma has a DVI input. Does Direct TV offer a receiver that has a DVI out? If so, would switching to this receiver produce a better quality picture?

I have the Plasma hooked up via S-Video to the Direct TV receiver. My receiver only has S-Video and composite inputs. The Plasma has a DVI input. Does Direct TV offer a receiver that has a DVI out? If so, would switching to this receiver produce a better quality picture?


I believe only the DIRECTV "HD" receivers have DVI output. But saying that, I was really impressed with the picture quality of S-Video. It may also depend on the which model receiver you have. Enjoy!

I believe only the DIRECTV "HD" receivers have DVI output. But saying that, I was really impressed with the picture quality of S-Video. It may also depend on the which receiver you have. Enjoy!


I have a Hughes receiver...not sure fo the number.

Is there a "best" receiver for picture quality?

I have a Hughes receiver...not sure fo the number.

Is there a "best" receiver for picture quality?

yes, no, maybe

does anyone know the remote code for the Viore pdp4210ea?

does anyone know the remote code for the Viore pdp4210ea?

I have a Harmony 520 remote and tried Akai, Vizio and a few others including LG. If you look inside the back cover you will see the LG sticker on the actual Plasma panel. There was code on the Harmony website but it was for the HD Viore sold earlier in the year by Sams. I guess the models aren't related as far as internal electronics. Harmony has a program that samples the code from the a couple of keypresses from the Viore remote and searches its database for close matches but it came up with nothing. I resorted to learning all the buttons from Viore remote which I assume is uploaded to Harmony's database. To summarize if you have a Logitech Harmony remote you may be in luck, but if you are looking for a code from another manufacturer that will work with your universal remote I wasn't able to detect one.

By the way by messing around with the timing of my Harmony 520 I noticed the Viore panel was much more reponsive to commands. That remote that comes with the set is by far the worst remote control of any piece of gear I have owned.

I didn't find a code for the Comcast remote (the old AT&T 200, I believe). I tried the Akai codes and code scanning.

today i started to get fuzzy lines across the tv, wasn't there before. anyone know how to get rid of this?

today i started to get fuzzy lines across the tv, wasn't there before. anyone know how to get rid of this?

What kind of fuzzy lines ? Did you change anything before it happens ? Like if you set the dvd player from progressive to interlace etc ?

i played my xbox and after that i turned off my tv. after about 1hour i turned my tv back on to see regular cable and it has been giving me about 10-15 horizantal fuzzy lines (image) about 1/2" thick and its really noticable in dark colors was not there before. your help is appriciated.

i played my xbox and after that i turned off my tv. after about 1hour i turned my tv back on to see regular cable and it has been giving me about 10-15 horizantal fuzzy lines (image) about 1/2" thick and its really noticable in dark colors was not there before. your help is appriciated.

Sounds like interference somewhere, could you check if the power cables among XBOX, VIORE or even adapters somewhere are NOT near to each others ?

all of my units dvd, vcr, xbox, playstation and tv are on a surge protecter. i took the tv and plugged it to the wall by itself but it still has the lines. any other suggestions thanks.

Viore website tells a little more substantial story now.

Sorry, I couoldn't link it... talk to management.

http://viore.com tells a little more substantial story now.

:) Hello All,
This is getting interesting about this brand of plasma tv..I happened to visit one of our local wal-marts yesterday, they had a 42' plasma tv ( the last one they had in stock ) that they had reduced the price to get rid of it. But as I'm the type of person that like to do research on a product before I buy, that's what I've been doing. I want to make sure I receive a decent quality product for my money. It's still really hard to figure out who makes this product. At least now they have a website available so you can obtain somewhat more information. On their site, under the contact heading it has contact information with an address in bentonville,ar 71712 .


Knowing that wal-marts headquarters are located in the same city....it makes me wonder if wal-mart might have a percentage of ownership with this company ?? I just joined the forum, but have been doing a LOT of reading in here previously...I'm in the process of trying to decide on the 'right' type of new television to buy. I have been leaning towards a lcd tv. Actually, to be more specific, the vizio L32 @ sams club. I'm ready to get away from the bulky / heavy crt tv's . Besides...the vizio L32 would fit in our present entertainment center. Thanks for all of the great info. here..
David :)

It works great so far for me, even with XBox hookup everything :)

Ocassionally this unit will not boot up esp after say a power blackout. Just disconnect the power cables, wait for couples of minute, connect it back, turn on the switch and you will be fine.

Real solution is to buy a surge protector with a battery backup, and even if the power is cut off for any reason, you will be fine.

Other than this, so far it is fine. Good bargain for a price/peformance :)

I purchased a viore plasma tv 42 in. at christmas 2005. It recently stopped working (it was past the 90 day in store return policy) and I am having trouble contacting viore warranty people. There is not a physical address listed in their manual. Their warranty paper only has a phone number. Every time I call all I get is a voice mail requesting I leave my phone number and a rep will call me back. I have not gotten a phone call back. I've been calling every other day for the past 30 days. They state there is a 1 yr warranty on these tv's. Does anyone know of a phone number to a "LIVE" person and/or a physical address I could go to or write about getting warranty service? Thank you for any help. Robin Ellsworth

I purchased a viore plasma tv 42 in. at christmas 2005. It recently stopped working, I do not still have my original purchase receipt from SAMS and I am having trouble contacting viore warranty people. There is not a physical address listed in their manual. Their warranty paper only has a phone number. Every time I call all I get is a voice mail requesting I leave my phone number and a rep will call me back. I have not gotten a phone call back. I've been calling every other day for the past 30 days. They state there is a 1 yr warranty on these tv's. Does anyone know of a phone number to a LIVE person and/or a physical address I could go to or write about getting warranty service? Thank you for any help. Robin Ellsworth

Sorry to hear about your Viore Plasma troubles. There's a thread on this Flat Panel Forum about choosing an off-brand display vs. name brand display. I sure wish you would post your experience on that thread. Again, sorry you're having pre-mature display problems.

I have a display viore I got for 800.00 but no manuel. It must have a tuner because I get 2 thru 13, but can't get the menu to let me switch the imput from air to cable, can anyone help Thanks

http://viore.com/product_tv_plasma.htm

Here is a link to their website.

lol....... I was wondering what brought this ancient thread back from the dead. Turned out to be nothing.

Office Max is going to have a 37" LCD Viore for it's Black Friday Sale. Can't wait to see the specs on this one. :rolleyes: It's not even listed on their website.

David

Ok, i was able to sneak a break in to the lock up room to look at the box at Officemax (i work there) This baby has HDMI, VGA 2 Component i think it has 1 composite will look again tomorrow. 1200:1 Contrast ratio. 500 for brightness. Has the built in speakers. If you need anything else let me know and i can go find out that's what i remember from the top of my head. This is in regards to the 37 inch at officemax for 699. Also the ad says limit 2 per store. If you have a very busy officemax around you, they will get a total of 4 my store has 4 and we are the busiest officemax in the city.

Walmart is selling the Viore PD42V18HA for their BF sale.

Walmart is selling the Viore PD42V18HA for their BF sale.
Someone at work just asked about that. I honestly don't know what to tell her.

I picked one of these up at Walmart after I saw the 500 people waiting to get into Micro Center. This set seems very nice. As far as pq goes, its great. I like the fact that the speakers are not visible. I can't wait to watch some HD football on this thing.. So far so good though...

I got the PD42V18HA 42" Plasma TV from Wal-Mart also. I don't have any HD channels yet, but the picture seems decent on SDtv, I'm really wanting to see some HD on it before I make my final decision. This being my first HDtv I hope I havn't set my hopes too high as far as the PQ goes.

/Off Topic- Anyone know which is better for HD programming Dish Network, or DirectTV?

I recently bought this TV as well and I'm very pleased with it. It has a great picture, and you can't beat the deal for it right now.

I ran into an issue when hooking up my optical audio cable though. For some reason, I don't get any sound with the optical cable. If I plug in the regular cables that I originally had, it's OK. The compnent video cables work fine, and give a great picture. Anyone have any suggestions?

I have a tough decision to make. I have a Sony 32XBR2 LCD HDTV (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/20INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=KDLV32XBR2&Dept=tvvideo&CategoryName=tv_flatpanel_32to40) that I got back in early December and I love it's picture more than my previous Sharp LC26D7U LCD and I love that the Sony has no red push at all. Now I find out my Dad bought me the Viore 42" PDP42V18HA Plasma HDTV (http://www.viore.com/PDP42V18HA.htm) as a gift from Walmart.

Viore 42" PDP42V18HA
• 42” screen with 16:9 aspect ratio
• ATSC digital tuner included for over-the-air HDTV broadcast reception
• 1024 x 768 native resolution for HDTV performance
• Beautiful color depth with a contrast ratio of 10000:1
• High luminance Plasma Display for brighter picture (1200 cd/m2)
• 480p, 720p, 1080i input capability
• HDTV compatible through HDMI and component video inputs
• Conventional video through S-video and composite video inputs
• VGA port for connection to PCBuilt-in speakers (5W x2)

He bought it on sale during black friday so he can't return it now for a refund. I've never had a plasma. Being paralyzed from the neck down and with no wheelchair equiped van I can't go to Walmart to take a look at the tv. If I accept the Viore PDP42V18HA and don't like it I can not go back to the Sony 32XBR2. I won't hurt his feelings like that, plus I'll have to get someone to come over and unpack it and switch the tv's and cables and don't want to bother them to do it twice if I can avoid it.

Anybody know about or have the Viore PDP42V18HA hdtv and can tell me about it? I looked at the Viore website but there's no downloadable manuals so I have no idea what type of setup features (basic or advanced) that it has. Does it have red push? Am I better off just continuing to use the Sony lcd and forget the Viore plasma? Any info, opinions and suggestions accepted.

About a week ago our Viore 42" plasmas we got from Walmart over year ago developed a slow moving horizontal darker band that floats from bottom to top fairly slow. Anyone else seen this and have an idea if it it easy to repair?

It's made by Akai. You can visit the Akai website and find that model. I have a PDP4210EA, but it is not currently working at this time. It is just over a year old and now will not power up. After some investigation, I found that there have been some issues with the Video Card and not much luck on resolution. I have been told by several repair facilities that Akai is not very helpful, and I am finding that out the hard way. I am now being told that there are not currently parts to repair my Viore.

Hi,

I have one of these Viore TV's. At the time I bought mine, Brandsmart had a CRT Rear Projection TV on sale. I was going to get the one from Brandsmart when the salesman said the DLP technology was better. He tried to get me to purchase a Samsung 46" with stand. I looked at the front real close. The price was the same as the Viore at Walmart, but the Viore was a 50". When I went to Walmart, I noticed it looked exactly like the Samsung. When I looked up the lamp, it uses a Samsung lamp as well. I think it is manufactured by Samsung and Viore just puts their name on it. Just my 2 cents.