Mary McDonnell was interesting last night....but I honestly think she plays a strong, assertive female much better than one with social issues. I don't know...I just don't think Grey's Anatomy is very good anymore...its borderline fantasy at this point and its really lost most of the magic that made it a compelling show in Season 1 and 2. Its too bad too (and I blame Private Practice for stretching Shonda)

Haven't watched last night's episode yet, but I have to agree that Grey's is slipping in the writing and story creation department. The story lines are more who can they get to sleep with each other than a real substance. Be interesting to compile a list of who has slept with whom. Izzy has slept with just about everybdy right?

Is Denny the friendly ghost real or is Izzie developing schizophrenia?
Oh well as long as they have scenes with Melissa George (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0313534/) in various stage of undress I will watch for the rest of the season.

I found it odd that last night's episode had a full set of ordinary credits at the end with no V/O, preview or vanity cards. Just checked the analog backup and found all of that. Someone forgot to insert the previews in the HD feed. Ok, I'm probably the only moron who notices things like that.

I wish that was something that would happen permanently. It must have been easy for ABC to forget, as they don't show the network credits or a voice over at the end of their comedy series. I see after "Samantha Who" the credits are a different font than the network and the production company cards have their own sound effects.

A few years back another network also used to run regular credits on their comedies as well.

Hey, I notice this kind of thing too. :D:D

Is Denny the friendly ghost real or is Izzie developing schizophrenia?

Well if this were any show other than "G.A," it would clearly be a mental health issue ... but ....

Well if this were any show other than "G.A," it would clearly be a mental health issue ... but ....

Yup thats whats so irritating about this season.

Is Denny the friendly ghost real or is Izzie developing schizophrenia?
Oh well as long as they have scenes with Melissa George (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0313534/) in various stage of undress I will watch for the rest of the season.I think it's part of the exit storyline that will take Heigl out of the show. Though, if you ask me, it's a little late. Don't think her star is rising like it once was. She's about to pull a David Caruso.

Still, I think the tattling by the now-departed Hahn will come back around about the same time Izzy goes nuts and they'll have no choice but to let her go.

Then, in three years when the movie roles stop coming, she'll turn up on Private Practice as an underwear model.

Well if this were any show other than "G.A," it would clearly be a mental health issue ... but ....

since it is GA, it's not mental illness, just another loveable quirk.

All I can say is I have about one more episode left of Denny. After that, I am gone. I used to like Izzie's character and then they totally ruined her with the entire Denny storyline. Then they finally get things away from that and bam, they bring him back again.

Personally, I think she was right, they did give her nothing deserving of an emmy last year (unless they are going to truly go up against soaps in the daytime Emmy's), though saying it in public is totally stupid.

:confused: Am I the only one thinking that Izzy is going to die soon? :confused:

Denny keeps saying, "Izzy, I'm here for you."

Is he here to help her transition from the living to the dead?

:confused: Am I the only one thinking that Izzy is going to die soon? :confused:

Denny keeps saying, "Izzy, I'm here for you."

Is he here to help her transition from the living to the dead?

Makes sense to me, probably why Melissa George has showed up, to take over the "hot blonde" role vacated by Izzy.

I, too, am sick of the dead Denny/Izzy storyline. I've generally liked the show over the years, but this is trying my patience. It's ridiculous, and worse, boring.

I, too, am sick of the dead Denny/Izzy storyline.

I think they got their wires crossed with "Supernatural's" ;) ( ... or Star Trek:TOS )

I think they got their wires crossed with "Supernatural's" ;) ( ... or Star Trek:TOS )

Really, now we know where Sam and Dean's dad has been since he left. :D

I think the best thing for this show would be for ABC to cancel Private Practice. Clearly Ms Rhimes is incapable of running two shows at once. I am still watching because I keep hoping for a return to the quality of years past, but this is really dreadful right now.

This phrase is way overused, but applicable here....

2 "jump the shark" moments in one show...SWEET! :eek:

I am getting to the point that I have better use of my time than to watch this show. It better get better soon, these storylines suck.

I think the best thing for this show would be for ABC to cancel Private Practice. Clearly Ms Rhimes is incapable of running two shows at once. I am still watching because I keep hoping for a return to the quality of years past, but this is really dreadful right now.

Same thing happened to Joss Whedon except it took him 3 projects for his first two to suffer for it. Firefly got the most of his attention and Angel and Buffy less so.

The whole ghost Denny storyline is getting on my nerves. My wife and I are nearing the end of the line with Grey's I think. Sad, given that it's one of the few shows we both enjoyed watching at one point.

Well, I finally figured out exactly how Izzy is going to die.

Ghost AIDS.

That slut gets around more than Paris Hilton.

"Denny! I can't believe I killed you twice!" (Cocodile tears spew like Niagra...for the millionth time.)

Besides the Izzy/Denny ******** that is going on in the show, that last episode was season 1 caliber. They portrayed the characters more as doctors and LESS like hormone crazy sex-addicts that do nothing but talk about their relationships all day. Of course, the relationship storyline is there but it takes a backseat to the medicine...and I really think this is what the show needs. They have gone so overboard on the drama with the relationships, that you almost forget these people are in education to become surgeons. I think they need to highlight this transformation more and really show just how green the original crew were in the beginning of their career and how far they have come to get to this point. I thought it was a great episode and really hope they continue along this path.

Besides the Izzy/Denny ******** that is going on in the show, that last episode was season 1 caliber. They portrayed the characters more as doctors and LESS like hormone crazy sex-addicts that do nothing but talk about their relationships all day. Of course, the relationship storyline is there but it takes a backseat to the medicine...and I really think this is what the show needs. They have gone so overboard on the drama with the relationships, that you almost forget these people are in education to become surgeons. I think they need to highlight this transformation more and really show just how green the original crew were in the beginning of their career and how far they have come to get to this point. I thought it was a great episode and really hope they continue along this path.

I'm watching the episode right now and while I agree with in regards to the medicine part, the Denny storyline is tiring. Grey's has been ok this season up until this episode. Uhhh!

Besides the Izzy/Denny ******** that is going on in the show, that last episode was season 1 caliber. They portrayed the characters more as doctors and LESS like hormone crazy sex-addicts that do nothing but talk about their relationships all day. Of course, the relationship storyline is there but it takes a backseat to the medicine...and I really think this is what the show needs. They have gone so overboard on the drama with the relationships, that you almost forget these people are in education to become surgeons. I think they need to highlight this transformation more and really show just how green the original crew were in the beginning of their career and how far they have come to get to this point. I thought it was a great episode and really hope they continue along this path.??? I think we must be watching a different show or something.

Interns operating on each other for kicks??? Come on!!! Seriously???

No, Seriously???

Seriously!!!

??? I think we must be watching a different show or something.

Interns operating on each other for kicks??? Come on!!! Seriously???

No, Seriously???

Seriously!!!

I'm right there with you. I still watch this show only b/c my wife still insists on watching it, and I turned to her several times during the last episode, and said that if they hadn't jumped the shark yet, the intern story line together with the Denny storyline surely qualified. I don't know, but I now find so many of the current shows, like Grey's and Heroes, to be virtually unwatchable. Oh well.

yeah stop the Denny stuff right now! ironically he's the actor of supernatural (father of the brothers), now playing a ghost... mmm

If they show more Denny next episode I'm changing the channel! that's it!

I haven't counted the episodes because I am trying really hard to forget them, but apparently Denny is on 5 episodes this year.

I haven't counted the episodes because I am trying really hard to forget them, but apparently Denny is on 5 episodes this year.

so we got at least two more... holy shiat :eek::eek::eek:

I wish Denny would just die already. Oh wait...

X whatever on jumpin' the shark. GA used to be one of only a few shows I actually sat through with my wife. I walk out now as soon as I see Denny and go watch The Office and 30 Rock in another room. My wifes says, "Just leave if you're gonna make fun of it.:mad:" I reply, "Let me know when Mulder and Scully show up and I'll sit back down to watch it with you.:p"

And I thought the show's title was Grey's Anatomy as in mostly about Grey. Now it's just a rehashed version of ER with different characters and a small X-Files plot.:rolleyes:

I'm done.

Well, based on the lack of commotion in this thread after this week's episode (as opposed to last week's), maybe I wasn't alone in telling my wife last night that I would not watch GA with her. I am [hopefully] done as well.

I've been very confused by the Denny angle but I haven't given up on the show yet. I'll cast judgement after I figure out where the hell they're going with it. However, I will say that all the response I've heard from people who watch this show, here and elsewhere, has been 100% negative towards that storyline. I'm not ready to say this is the be all end all shark-jumping moment of the show, but it looks like it was most certainly a poor decision. I don't know any fans of the show who are actually enjoying it.

Worst episode ever!

So I changed the channel, watch the office and some 30 rock, changed back, Ok, Izzie walks to Alex, and I yelled "finally! she's over it!" but then she looks away to see Denny.. changed channel again.. bye!

And our beloved BSG star plays a Cylon-like character here with no emotions, kind of TSCC caliber..

Where did the term "jumping the shark" come from?

Nevermind. I wiki'ed it.

I've been very confused by the Denny angle but I haven't given up on the show yet.

Clearly, Izzie has developed a brain tumor/aneurysm/whatever ... are song and dance numbers next? ;) :D

Well, maybe this is their way of proving that the material that they gave Heigl last year was not that bad and that they really could have given her worse material to work with. Too bad they are killing their own show in the process.

I will probably keep watching (or at least read magazines while my wife does in teh hope that somethign changes, but I should have trusted my Spidey sense that tingled when Shonda said how proud all the producers and writers were at the whole Ferry Boat crash story arc, which I thought was horrible, only to be outdone my Denny.

I also fell into thinking that after Karev's speech that she would turn and he would be gone since he was not there for us during the conversation, but I was beat back into place quickly.

I really did liek this show and I really want to give it a chance to return to its greatness, just give me something to work with here! Heck, Private Practice has gotten better than GA now.

I didn't get this, a young bright surgeon to be needs to have sex with a senior surgeon to supposedly be a better surgeon.. mmm, so talent is transmitted via sexual intercourse now? LOL

:mad: I'm getting REALLY annoyed now. :mad:

Christina, who makes Cameron and Liquid Metal chick on Terminator: SCC seem like emotionally-charged characters, suddenly giggles incessantly like a schoolgirl when a little tuft of wind blows up her baby hole? Sorry, but I'm not buying it...ever. Little Grey with Sloan, just ten seconds after it's revealed she's in love with George? The Denny plotline, while ludicrous and overcooked, isn't even remotely the only thing wrong with this show. I miss the good ol' days of episodes with bombs and people dying...not ones with duds and ghosts. :(

LOL.. this show really is like a firecracker gone off in a bag of poop. :D

You forgot Cylon-like Roslin...

You forgot Cylon-like Roslin...

I actually like her character and what she brings to the role itself quite a bit.

I keep expecting George Michael to come in and start singing when Izzy and Denny are going at it.

I actually like her character and what she brings to the role itself quite a bit.

So do I, she's so good I don't even think about her role on BSG. Maybe we'll get lucky and she'll kill Izzy - because it's the logical thing to do. :p

Read rumors on the net (must be true right) that TR Knight is asking out of his contract. Maybe he sees the writing on the wall?

How can ABC cancel this show? The ratings are way too high and who cares about the writing? People are still watching.

Read rumors on the net (must be true right) that TR Knight is asking out of his contract. Maybe he sees the writing on the wall?

Why ask out of a contract? They've pretty much written him out already...

...to make room for much better things...

...like ghost sex. :(

Can someone explain to me how can it be physically satisfying to have sex with the paranormal? Is there an actual condition out there or is this just made up for GA?

I still like the show, but like others, this Denny storyline is starting to wear me down and, IMHO, downright creepy.

It's all on her brain, so something in her brain is telling her that she sees and feels Denny, and since it's controlled also by her brain she can have any type of orgasm she wants, so why bother with a boyfriend now? LOL, Wait!, Infitite pleassure Vs. longer lifespan.. mmmm what to choose..

Tried to watch it again tonight with the Mrs.

Saw Denny within the first couple minutes. I huffed and got scolded by the wife.

Then, shortly after seeing Denny and within the first 10 minutes of the show, one of the McNugget doctors broke his penis during sex with Meredith's sister.

I got up and walked out of the room. This show has jumped the shark and is now playing with the shark.

Best damn episode of the season. One of the best of the series. Emotionally powerful and riveting storyline with the death row inmate and the child. They have built up characters like Dr. Bailey so well, I hurt as she hurts. Meredith's breakdown at the correctional facility....just wow.

P.S. Am glad the Denny thing is seemingly over...

P.P.S. OMG a cross-over show with Private Practice? Can't wait!

hello all,

what did grey say to yang in the car at the end? was this a comcast issue?

I'm just about done with this show...its pretty awful these days

hello all,

what did grey say to yang in the car at the end? was this a comcast issue?

I believe it was intentionally silent.

I believe it was intentionally silent.

Agree, it was that way on my local and I watched it via Directv, I thought it was a drop out when I first saw it, but Derek started talking in the background while they were still in car, so I think it was intentional also.

Yet another lame episode in a lame season. :(

Will we ever see another episode like "Pink Mist" before GA is cancelled?

Will we ever see ANY man step up and quit kissing his latest boink-partner's ass?

Will we ever care about a patient ever again?

Will George ever get more than two lines in an episode?

Will Izzy ever just break down and buy some batteries for her sex toy, rather than dream up a ghost?

Will Merideth ever look halfway decent again?

Will newbie Aussie chick (I haven't even bothered with her name) ever even matter?

Will Journeyman ever bitch-slap Christina into next week, as deserved?

Will Kirev ever regain his testicles?

Will The Nazi ever return, leaving the sobbing train wreck behind?

Will The Chief ever attempt to fix the hospital's sagging numbers, beyond whining about them?

Will Derek ever be anything beyond a hairdo?

Will Lexi ever show off her full body, and thus, maybe save the show for one more episode?

Will Torez ever go fully lez?

Will Sloan quit the show, now that he's the only one worth a sh!t?

Will any of this ever matter...before it's too late? :confused:

Yet another lame episode in a lame season. :(

Will we ever see another episode like "Pink Mist" before GA is cancelled?

Will we ever see ANY man step up and quit kissing his latest boink-partner's ass?

Will we ever care about a patient ever again?

Will George ever get more than two lines in an episode?

Will Izzy ever just break down and buy some batteries for her sex toy, rather than dream up a ghost?

Will Merideth ever look halfway decent again?

Will newbie Aussie chick (I haven't even bothered with her name) ever even matter?

Will Journeyman ever bitch-slap Christina into next week, as deserved?

Will Kirev ever regain his testicles?

Will The Nazi ever return, leaving the sobbing train wreck behind?

Will The Chief ever attempt to fix the hospital's sagging numbers, beyond whining about them?

Will Derek ever be anything beyond a hairdo?

Will Lexi ever show off her full body, and thus, maybe save the show for one more episode?

Will Torez ever go fully lez?

Will Sloan quit the show, now that he's the only one worth a sh!t?

Will any of this ever matter...before it's too late? :confused:

Spot on.

Is this Denny sh!t finally over?

Tried to watch it again tonight with the Mrs.

Saw Denny within the first couple minutes. I huffed and got scolded by the wife.

Then, shortly after seeing Denny and within the first 10 minutes of the show, one of the McNugget doctors broke his penis during sex with Meredith's sister.

I got up and walked out of the room. This show has jumped the shark and is now playing with the shark.

Didn't you hear, the shark is now being cast as a full time character on the show. In fact, the shark is going to have its own 'shark centric' episode around sweeps week. :p:p:D:D

Yet another lame episode in a lame season. :(
Lame is too kind a word to use for the last episode. There was a time when this show had a sense of humor and did not take itself too seriously or indulge in way overwrought scenes. Another question would be:

Will "Jump The Shark" be replaced by a new catch phrase related to Grey's Anatomy? "Pull a Grey Anatomy's", "See a Dead Dennie", "Go crazy Izzie". Just need the right catch phrase. Any suggestions?

Come to think of it, here another question for your list:

Will Lucius Vorenus grab a short sword and put a quick end to all the whiners?

I didn't realize how tired I was of the Denny storyline until the episode was over and I was happy he wasn't there. Bleh, that arc did kinda suck.

I'm excited about the crossover event. The preview at the end of Private Practice was great...looks to be a good, intense, emotional episode.

My friend thinks Izzy is going to die. And rumor is TK Knight is asking off the show. And wait a second....the network forced Dr. Haun's character off the show but then they introduce a new lesbian interest for Callie? WTF?

I gotta say that I was pleasantly surprised at this last episode. :) It had more of everything that made me fall in love with the show in the first place. The characters finally felt like themselves again, after what has seemed to be a looooonnnng hiatus from "Grey's Reality." I'm very interested to see what Hunt/Journeyman is going through.

One thing I absolutely didn't like was the ending. If we have to endure Shepard sleeping with the ex again (or even having Grey think he did) only to go down the rocky, worn-out road of Merideth's insepid bitch-fest/paranoia-mania/whine-o-rama ever again...:mad:

Overall though, pretty good stuff...finally! :D

So how many people figure they got Izzy's blood work mixed up with the patient and Izzy has the cancer and the patient is anemic.

Wow, long time since anyone posted.

Well, not much to say about the 100th episode. It was predictable that Izzy would be the one getting married...really as far back as the news spread that "there will be A wedding". I mean, why would they say it that way if it was going to be the one everyone would expect, aka Meredith's. But it was still written and shot beautifully. But now I feel more than ever Izzy is going to die. Guess the actress is getting too big for TV.

Glad to see George getting some air time, though they better do something with this whole trauma angle to keep his character going from 10% relevancy on the show to 0%.

Also, if ABC had a problem with Dr. Haun's character development--thus axing the character--I don't understand why she was replaced by Arizona (ped surgeon). What's different about this story with Callie that makes it better?

What's different about this story with Callie that makes it better?

Haun was a bitch! Treated everyone rudely and was condescending. That right there didn't make her likable and thus a relationship with Callie believeable.

Haun was a bitch! Treated everyone rudely and was condescending. That right there didn't make her likable and thus a relationship with Callie believeable.

Actually, I kinda have a different take on it. Haun wasn't attractive. Arizona is. It's much easier for the viewing audience to accept lesbianism on TV if the girls are attractive. It's a perception thing.

One more episode and I'm done...this show is an awful...they should have ended it a long time ago

Actually, I kinda have a different take on it. Haun wasn't attractive. Arizona is. It's much easier for the viewing audience to accept lesbianism on TV if the girls are attractive. It's a perception thing.

Bingo!

Hopefully they will finally kill off Izzy next week and then we won't have to be subjected to Denny anymore.

Hopefully they will finally kill off Izzy next week and then we won't have to be subjected to Denny anymore.

Ya, when he was alive, it was not so bad, but I cannot make myself like her/Denny together now. It is old! (honestly, Izzy is getting old too, too much of a drama queen, even for Grey's!)

On the other hand, I like the writing with Meridith and Derek this season and the finale is no different, they just work well together... The way they looked at each other in the church was really good, if not great acting/scene cutting....

Actually, I kinda have a different take on it. Haun wasn't attractive. Arizona is. It's much easier for the viewing audience to accept lesbianism on TV if the girls are attractive. It's a perception thing.


I was gonna add that Arizona is better looking but didn't want to seem superficial (but I probably am!:)). Plus I figured someone would claim Callie and Arizona are lipstick lesbians and doing a disservice to the lesbian community since most couples don't look like that.

More Denny, Izzie still alive, no MerDer wedding... is this season over at last?

They ARE implying that she will die, aren't they?

Unless Derek does some more miracle heroics I don't see her living much now..

And Denny came for her... to take her to the other side...

Well, Derek does seem to have some crazy ability to do the impossible or at least things no one ever thought of before. ;)

I too hate Denny. Even more, I hate the entire storyline and the direction they took the Izzie character. She was this strong girl who worked against the odds to pull herself up and in just a few episodes, they turned her into a blithering idiot who competely forgot what it meant to be a doctor and do what she had done to the point of killing people, then they allowed the hospital to let her keep working.

Grey's Anatomy is like Lost. Just when you think a character is dead and buried, they come back for a multi-episode arc.

So, my SWAG is that Izzy does die during the season finale, but after the funeral, Alex is in a car accident and he hallucinates Izzy and Denny on and off all next season. ;)

They should do a crossover between Grey's and House, bring the hallucinations together!

Denny, Kutner and Amber in one place..

they should do a crossover between grey's and house, bring the hallucinations together!

Denny, kutner and amber in one place..

lol:)

Grey's Anatomy is like Lost. Just when you think a character is dead and buried, they come back for a multi-episode arc.

So, my SWAG is that Izzy does die during the season finale, but after the funeral, Alex is in a car accident and he hallucinates Izzy and Denny on and off all next season. ;)

If that happens, I might just stab myself in the eye.

I heard rumors that TR and Katherine wanted off the show...wow, seems like it just may happen. I thought George's army joining was a nice send off, but it absolutely floored me when he ended up being John Doe. Wow.

Can't say I didn't see Izzy's medical drama coming though.

All in all, a very nice finale.

Knew it was George almost from the beginning...Izzie's late turn for the worse totally surprised me, even though I had heard she was going to leave the show.

damn...ugh...they sucked me back in...i guess i'll watch the first few eps of next season...

I'm guessing its starting off with a double funeral...

I really want to send the Ped doctor in front of that same bus.

Don't see a thread so I'll also mention here that Shonda Rhimes' other show, "Private Practice" also had a nicely suspenseful finale.

I watched it from the beginning because I love Addison as a character. But now they've got her back in the same situation of committing adultery again and it kinda pisses me off. After everything she has done and been through leading to her desire to get away from Derek and Seattle, to lead her back to this is aggravating. I don't want that for the story or the character. Almost of the point of contemplating not watching anymore.

Aside from that, the whole cutting-out-the-baby thing....wooo yah. Way to end...

Here is a link to an interview with Shonda Rhimes where she clears-up some rumors about the show and the actors (do not read unless you have seen last night's show!).

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/05/exclusive-greys.html#more

hello all,

Loved the finale, but it was a flashback to an ER eposide. When Omar Epps jumped in front of train, and the doctors didn't know it was him until his beeper went off.

I watch to much TV.

Here is a link to an interview with Shonda Rhimes where she clears-up some rumors about the show and the actors (do not read unless you have seen last night's show!).

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2009/05/exclusive-greys.html#more

All she said was "we don't discuss private conversations"....not much clearing up.

I think the George surprise was big because they thought he was there in the hospital until the chief said that he went home early, by that time he was writing 007 on Mer's hand, nice shocker...

Izzie, we kinda knew it, so she's in the elevator to "heaven" and George is either joining her, or saying goodbye, darn another wait and see..

Don't see a thread so I'll also mention here that Shonda Rhimes' other show, "Private Practice" also had a nicely suspenseful finale.



It is not cool to mention plot details of other shows in threads (even though yours are minor and probably easy to figure out given the way the show is going). It would probably be best served if you started a thread for Private Practice.

As far as Greys, I really am not sure if I will keep watching. I will have to see how I feel next fall. Personally, I think they are just blatanly screwing the viewers over with these last second twists. I could almost give them the whole George thing (though why not let him go off and live?), but to have Izzie all the sudden start getting better then drop dead reeks of soap opera type story lines IMO. I am sure she will be revived for next year if they work it all out, which will make it even worse IMO. I like the show for lots of reasons, but some of these plotlines can be aggravating.

No Grey's fans out there? How did y'all think the season premiere went down? I'm just gonna say, I wish they didn't do the whole heroic throw-himself-in-front-of-a-bus thing. I think it was enough that George was joining the army and leaving the hospital. That would have been a nice send off for his character.

Between Izzy losing time over the Denny incident and now cancer, it is a wonder how she is keeping up with the other residents. Just a random thought.

I'm not initially liking this whole Seattle Grace/Mercy West merger story line. We'll see how it plays out.

Juuuuust a bit too weepy for me; good, but weepy. And the scene at the cemetary where the cast was laughing, it kind of felt that they were laughing at the writers and at us for swallowing all of the outlandish ideas.

I was hoping, for the briefest of moments, that the cast had punked us all and that it really wasn't George on the table. Imagine the WTF moment they could have had with George walk into the room and say, "What's going on?" That would have been cool!

In the end, I wish Izzy had gone instead of George. George was everyman, one of the few cast members not Hollywood gorgeous; he was normal, like the viewers. His presence shall be missed. Plus, enough whining Izzy; between you and your real-life counterpart, I've had enough.

I'll keep watching the show, mostly for Bailey and for the medical drama, but it has definitely passed it's high-water mark. It's like ER after Clooney and Edwards left, still good, but not nearly as good.

Finally, it'd be great if they brought Burke back (now that George has left); imagine the possiblities.

In the end, I wish Izzy had gone instead of George. George was everyman, one of the few cast members not Hollywood gorgeous; he was normal, like the viewers. His presence shall be missed. Plus, enough whining Izzy; between you and your real-life counterpart, I've had enough.


Meredith is far from gorgeous in my opinion. I think she looks even worse in HD. Izzy is hot but became annoying with the Denny thing. George needed to go because the writers had nothing for him the last couple seasons, especially last year.

I too thought for one moment, what if it wasn't George and TD made one last appearance, hauling off to the army? That would have been a great shock!

And yes, Bailey is a top-notch character.

The writers should be ashamed as should the producers. After essentially ignoring George for the past two seasons, the writers tried to wring every possible tear out of his death. And the producers let him suffer through personal issues because of Burke's predjuices, then, just strung him along knowing he would have to resign if he had any self-respect left so they could finally kill him off for a season ending finale and a two hour next season opening. Have they no shame?

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The writers should be ashamed as should the producers. After essentially ignoring George for the past two seasons, the writers tried to wring every possible tear out of his death. And the producers let him suffer through personal issues because of Burke's predjuices, then, just strung him along knowing he would have to resign if he had any self-respect left so they could finally kill him off for a season ending finale and a two hour next season opening. Have they no shame?

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Apparently not; it's sad and the show is weaker because of his absence. Despite Burke's real-life persona being a jerk, losing his character made the show a lot worse than it was when it began. Now there are too many characters. It's a mess, a watchable mess, sometimes well written mess, but a mess nonetheless.

And the scene at the cemetary where the cast was laughing, it kind of felt that they were laughing at the writers and at us for swallowing all of the outlandish ideas.

I thought the same thing. The show was poking fun at itself a bit. One of my favourite scenes of the episode.

Sadly, the show has gone into "couples mode" now. The group dynamic that was so engaging seems to be lost forever amidst the tidal wave of characters and the issues that they appear to be capable of only coping with in a one-on-one setting. Where, in the good 'ol days, we might have the entire group, sitting down at the lunch table outside and discussing character X's problem, we now see two people locked up in a room, walled away from the familial core and its entension. To me, it shows that the writers have abandoned the challenge of all-embodiment in the dialogue, and resorted to creating simple, trite, and leading scenes that require little thought or effort.

The magic is over. :(

I thought the same thing. The show was poking fun at itself a bit. One of my favourite scenes of the episode.

The laughter was a perfect example of group hysteria. Izzy laughed because she could not cry...it was hysterical laughter not real. Then it spread to the others. It should have been obvious that the laughter was not that they thought the situation was funny....but the director did not pull it off leading people to totally misinterpret it.

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Can I just say that I am really enjoying this season's beginning to both "Grey's Anatomy" and "Private Practice"?

Is there some behind-the-scenes news bit about Izzy really leaving the show I missed, or is this going to play out and resolve? I really liked her rant at that Mercy West guy when she said "we don't work that way here....we throw ourselves in front of buses for strangers..." And along the same rant lines, the actress playing Callie...whoa. She's gotta be up for an Emmy next go-round.

Sadly, the show has gone into "couples mode" now. The group dynamic that was so engaging seems to be lost forever amidst the tidal wave of characters and the issues that they appear to be capable of only coping with in a one-on-one setting. Where, in the good 'ol days, we might have the entire group, sitting down at the lunch table outside and discussing character X's problem, we now see two people locked up in a room, walled away from the familial core and its entension. To me, it shows that the writers have abandoned the challenge of all-embodiment in the dialogue, and resorted to creating simple, trite, and leading scenes that require little thought or effort.

The magic is over. :(

Totally agree, but in the last couple episodes the magic is back! They finally have gone back to what worked in the first season, without all the soap opera drama. They almost need to rename the show though, as Grey is hardly a main character any more. Her sister gets more airtime now.

Totally agree, but in the last couple episodes the magic is back! They finally have gone back to what worked in the first season, without all the soap opera drama. They almost need to rename the show though, as Grey is hardly a main character any more. Her sister gets more airtime now.

It's called being pregnant with some scenes being filled that cover your tummy her sister was pregnant at the end of last season and was covering her tummy as well.
Heigl is off filming a movie as well.

Thats why we have some new characters for the moment.

It's called being pregnant with some scenes being filled that cover your tummy her sister was pregnant at the end of last season and was covering her tummy as well.
Heigl is off filming a movie as well.

Thats why we have some new characters for the moment.

In general I like the new characters, but it seems Bailey is getting less screen time as a result. That is a shame to me because I think she is one of the best and most interesting characters on the show.

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In general I like the new characters, but it seems Bailey is getting less screen time as a result. That is a shame to me because I think she is one of the best and most interesting characters on the show.

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They tend to go in burst on this show giving a couple of characters a strong storyline for a sweep period putting the rest to the background and then doing somebody else next. She will be back unless she pisses off the producer.

In general I like the new characters, but it seems Bailey is getting less screen time as a result. That is a shame to me because I think she is one of the best and most interesting characters on the show.

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They tend to go in burst on this show giving a couple of characters a strong storyline for a sweep period putting the rest to the background and then doing somebody else next. She will be back unless she pisses off the producer.

Damn! I was hoping they would find Izzy dead in a gutter somewhere. :(

Here's to hoping that they do get it right this time around and have her kick the bucket in childbirth...a botched job, screwed up by the story is beyond old now, surgery-hungry Christina. Reunited with her precious Denny at last! :rolleyes:

(If she names the kid Denny, Jr. then I'm done with this show forever!!!) :mad:

Apparently not; it's sad and the show is weaker because of his absence. Despite Burke's real-life persona being a jerk, losing his character made the show a lot worse than it was when it began. Now there are too many characters. It's a mess, a watchable mess, sometimes well written mess, but a mess nonetheless.

Burke absence is felt throughout this show. It hasn’t been the same since he left… of course I may be bias since he was my favorite character on the show, and I thought Christina and Burke had great chemistry.

I still watch the show occasionally. At the moment there are too many characters on the show, and the storylines are not as good as they were in the past. But they are still drawing some good ratings, so it will remain on ABC. I do wonder how far the ratings have dropped since Isaiah Washington left. Now that would be very interesting.

Actually I think the last couple of episodes have been some of their best. The previous weeks mystery of who caused the mom to die was reminiscent of ER quality.

I thought this week's episode was just horrible. Seemed completed chopped together.

I thought this week's episode was just horrible. Seemed completed chopped together.

Agreed. It came off as a disjointed, discombobulated mess...as though there were too many writers working independent of one another on a single project. :(

Too much time passed as well. They couldn't have had a dedicated Thankgiving and X-Mas episode? :confused:

Agreed. It came off as a disjointed, discombobulated mess...as though there were too many writers working independent of one another on a single project. :(

Too much time passed as well. They couldn't have had a dedicated Thankgiving and X-Mas episode? :confused:

I believe the show is off the schedule until Jan 14 so this episode brings it current until then.

I thought this week's episode was just horrible. Seemed completed chopped together.I didn't think the episode was THAT bad. It wasn't on a par with the previous few weeks, but it was still better than anything from the previous several seasons.

Grey's has been a pleasant surprise to me this season. The show was terrific in its first season, pretty good in it's second, and unbelievably awful the past two seasons. My wife and I almost stopped watching the show last season, but after the disappearance of Denny's ghost decided we would give Greys' an episode or two this year to show improvement before dropping Grey's for good. Much to my surprise, this season has been a pleasant return to form and I am hopeful that I will continue to enjoy the show going forward.

We are still a couple of weeks behind, but my wife and I completely agree with you. This season has been decent enough again. It also demonstrates that they should just get rid of Meredith and Izzy, call the show Seattle Grace, and move on. The scenes with those two just drag the show down, and they aren't necessary at all anymore.

I believe the show is off the schedule until Jan 14 so this episode brings it current until then.

That would make some sense, but it still made for some disconcerting scenes. :( Is Grey's better than last year? Possibly. ANYTHING is better than "Denny Rises from Beyond the Grave...Again, and Again, and Again." However, I'm reserving full judgement against past years until we're a bit deeper into this season.

I agree the accelerated timeline made for some odd transitions scene to scene. Also agree less Izzy(preferably no Izzy) and as little of Meredith as possible makes this a much better show.

Yeah get rid of Izzie please, her "replacement" is already in. the girl with short hair from Mercy West, she seems to have the hots for Alex, it wouldn't surprise me they get together soonish..

Wait, Izzie is pregnant? where? how? I think I missed that part..

The pregnant issues will be Sloan's daughter.. he's going to be a grandpa...

BTW Why she's named Riley? wasn't she playing a Riley on TSCC?

Yeah get rid of Izzie please, her "replacement" is already in. the girl with short hair from Mercy West, she seems to have the hots for Alex, it wouldn't surprise me they get together soonish..

Wait, Izzie is pregnant? where? how? I think I missed that part..

The pregnant issues will be Sloan's daughter.. he's going to be a grandpa...

BTW Why she's named Riley? wasn't she playing a Riley on TSCC?

Riley on Grey's. Riley on Terminator. :confused:

Maybe she just slightly altered her adopted last name, RiPley, from Aliens and it stuck. :)

Oh, how I miss TSCC! :(

Holy crap, what a finale! It has gotten 5 trending topics on Twitter, if that tells you anything. I don't think I breathed for the last 90 minutes of it. That's some damn good television right there.

Holy crap, what a finale! It has gotten 5 trending topics on Twitter, if that tells you anything. I don't think I breathed for the last 90 minutes of it. That's some damn good television right there.

FWIW Twitter changed their trending topics algorithm so it's easier for stuff to get on the list but harder to stay there for a longer time. But no doubt the internet is exploding right now with this finale. I'm only slightly exaggerating when I say I hardly have a single female friend on my Facebook right now that didn't cry from that.

I, of course, was watching The Mentalist whose ratings come morning will be very underwhelming facing that massive Grey's finale. Same with Criminal Minds' finale next week facing Idol. Anyway.

I thought about it some afterwards and realized Shonda cleverly wrote out some of the boring residents that came over from the Mercy West merger. Seems like they must have always been expendable...written in for the sake of giving the appearance of "upping the stakes" in the finale. That's not to say it wasn't a solid 2 hour finale. The body count added up quick: 3-4 "extras", 2 minor characters...all dead; 3 major characters shot. Every time Mr. Clark popped up unexpectedly somewhere else, it was definitely a breath holding moment.

I think my favorite part was when Owen came to the OR finally. The dialogue made it seem like we wasn't going to help Christina with the surgery because of their arguments. Then *GASP* (literally, not sarcastically) the shooter is actually in the OR.

P.S. I think I understand why this topic doesn't get updated a lot, being a predominately male forum. But I don't care...HA HA...Grey's is my guilty pleasure.

Looked like an episode of ER last night. All that was missing was a helicopter landing on someone's head.

For the most part all that episode did was piss me off. Their policy in such a situation is to just stay put while so they can be picked off like sheep, while the police stand around outside and a single swat team slowly clears the building room for room? Sadly, I think thats actually not completely unrealistic, except hospital doors for the most part have locks on them.

And come on, Weber wanders around the hospital for a few minutes and finds the shooter before the police? And he just happens to have 1 bullet left, give me a break.

I'll say that Reid being shot in the head was a pretty shocking moment. I don't watch any of the episode previews because I record everything so I really had no idea what was coming.

P.S. I think I understand why this topic doesn't get updated a lot, being a predominately male forum. But I don't care...HA HA...Grey's is my guilty pleasure.

Yeah me too, except back during the "Izzy is talking to a ghost" plot line I watched more to make fun of the show than anything. Now I watch more out of habit than anything, once I'm hooked on a show its hard for me to stop watching, and the fist 2 seasons were really great.

For the most part all that episode did was piss me off. Their policy in such a situation is to just stay put while so they can be picked off like sheep, while the police stand around outside and a single swat team slowly clears the building room for room? Sadly, I think thats actually not completely unrealistic, except hospital doors for the most part have locks on them.


I thought it was a very good episode, with my sole complaint being the high frequency with which the shooter came in contact with our main characters combined with the low frequency of contact with SWAT. I realize this was done for dramatic effect, but it strained credibility. Otherwise, I thought it was a great episode.

As far as actual lockdown policies go, "shelter in place" strategies are the new norm. I work for a large company, and we had a false alarm a few months ago where someone reported a gunman on the loose (as it turns out, it was just a groundskeeper carrying a shovel -- lol). But the response from security was to play the tornado recording over the loudspeakers and funnel everyone down into an underground corridor that connects the main buildings, where we would have been sitting ducks! Granted, we had security gaurds down there with guns, but it's a big corridor and if the guy'd had explosives it would have been like shooting fish in a barrel, not to mention all the time we spent packed in stairwells, stuck in line while everyone tried to cram into the corridor.

So the new approach is to have everyone stay where they are. However, these "shelter in place" strategies certainly do work better if there are lockable doors and a faster response from SWAT.

Ratings were huge but not as big as last year's finale; but a nice recovery considering Grey's overall plummet ratings over the course of the season. Of the four half hours, 10:30 was the biggest...

ABC Grey’s Anatomy (finale).........16,788,000 viewers, 6.2 rating in adults 18-49
CBS The Mentalist (finale)............14,859,000 viewers, 3.1 rating in adults 18-49
NBC The Marriage Ref (finale)........4,496,000 viewers, 2.0 rating adults 18-49

And come on, Weber wanders around the hospital for a few minutes and finds the shooter before the police? And he just happens to have 1 bullet left, give me a break.


Hmm, this didn't bother me at all. I took it that Richard knew exactly where to go...the room his wife died in. And the plausibility of one bullet left was explained away quite eloquently (tying into Richard's recovery).

Hmm, this didn't bother me at all. I took it that Richard knew exactly where to go...the room his wife died in.


Gah, I didn't even think of that. Although he probably should have given that info to the police.

They also pitched in the political agenda, I so hate that.. in previous episodes they pushed "see? this patient doesn't have health insurance and now this happens", this one.. "see? guns and ammo are so easy to obtain and this happens"...

Other than that the finale rocked..

They also pitched in the political agenda, I so hate that.. in previous episodes they pushed "see? this patient doesn't have health insurance and now this happens", this one.. "see? guns and ammo are so easy to obtain and this happens"...

Other than that the finale rocked..
Sorry, but I would less equate that with pushing an agenda, but showing reality. Way to many people don't have health insurance; guns and ammo are way to easy to get. I didn't hear any preaching about how to correct these situations.

They also pitched in the political agenda, I so hate that.. in previous episodes they pushed "see? this patient doesn't have health insurance and now this happens", this one.. "see? guns and ammo are so easy to obtain and this happens"...

Other than that the finale rocked..

Yes, regardless of how I feel about a particular issue, I don't like my TV preaching at me. I actually agree with the show's stance on both of the political arguments you cited, but regardless, for a writer to throw in any political issue in a ham handed fashion doesn't impress me much.

Wow guys, a little conspiracy theory-minded, aren't we?

the show was good I kept thinking if some one had a gun they could have ended it . a reason to carry . I didn't understand when the swat guy shoot him why he didn't finish him off ! I know it's TV but not realistic . I could not believe who many main characters were shot and a two died . I know they were new to the show but they played a big part in the season .

Several of these questions have been answered in this interview with Shonda Rhimes (Warning, some spoilers!)

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/05/21/greys-anatomy-season-finale-scoop/

Quotes:

"Let’s shift gears to the actual crisis itself. I get that there’s a certain suspension of disbelief that comes with stories like this. But I don’t get why the SWAT team didn’t take the gunman out after they shot him the first time. It looked like they easily could have gotten a second shot in there.
RHIMES: They didn’t have a clear shot of him again.

But he was just laying there on the floor.
RHIMES: But Lexie was in between them. And then she got up and was still in between them. And she’s running away and he’s running away at the same time. So I don’t see that they could have gotten a clear shot.

Fans are joking that Seattle has the worst SWAT team in the country.
RHIMES: That’s a shame because we have these super awesome SWAT guys who talked us through everything. And we had a meeting in which I said, “Seriously, it would be five guys in a group searching [the entire] hospital? That sounds crazy to me.” And they said that’s how it works. And for me, it made it so much more horrible because that hospital is enormous. And the idea that just five guys are going to save them is ridiculous on so many levels, and yet, that’s how it works. When you’re looking for a shooter, you don’t have a bunch of people all spread out apparently."

Several of these questions have been answered in this interview with Shonda Rhimes (Warning, some spoilers!)

http://ausiellofiles.ew.com/2010/05/21/greys-anatomy-season-finale-scoop/

Quotes:

"Let’s shift gears to the actual crisis itself. I get that there’s a certain suspension of disbelief that comes with stories like this. But I don’t get why the SWAT team didn’t take the gunman out after they shot him the first time. It looked like they easily could have gotten a second shot in there.
RHIMES: They didn’t have a clear shot of him again.

But he was just laying there on the floor.
RHIMES: But Lexie was in between them. And then she got up and was still in between them. And she’s running away and he’s running away at the same time. So I don’t see that they could have gotten a clear shot.

Fans are joking that Seattle has the worst SWAT team in the country.
RHIMES: That’s a shame because we have these super awesome SWAT guys who talked us through everything. And we had a meeting in which I said, “Seriously, it would be five guys in a group searching [the entire] hospital? That sounds crazy to me.” And they said that’s how it works. And for me, it made it so much more horrible because that hospital is enormous. And the idea that just five guys are going to save them is ridiculous on so many levels, and yet, that’s how it works. When you’re looking for a shooter, you don’t have a bunch of people all spread out apparently."

Thanks for posting that. I was thinking a real life situation would have resulted in a steady flow of police into the building. Not sure why that would not be the best tactic. I would think if they had 200 police (do not all have to all be SWAT imo) storming the building a lot less people would have been shot and they could have located the shooter in a few minutes. I am also not sure why they could not have used hospital surveillance cameras to locate the shooter quickly.

It's TV, people. Deal with it. ;)

The only thing that upset me was that Christina wasn't the one to die. :(

they essentially killed off all the new characters they introduced in the merger. brilliant(ly lame)

they essentially killed off all the new characters they introduced in the merger. brilliant(ly lame)

The Mercy Westers certainly got no mercy. :D

Good riddance to bad rubbish. My wife actually cheered when the first girl got it right between the eyes. :)

Wow guys, a little conspiracy theory-minded, aren't we?

Nope.

So, after such a huge finale, what could they premiere with? It's roughly a month later, apparently and everyone is still pretty shaken. Clearly this season will be about how each character individually responds. Should be interesting! I did notice Izzy's absence on the show more than ever. Sad times.

The rest of my post also has to do with Private Practice, so spoiler tags:

Shonda Rhimes is disappointingly following the same story arc in both her shows. Major character(s) die at the finale, people are coping on the premiere, and a spontaneous wedding happens. I do like the connection, however loose, that the two shows keep. Derek's sister not being able to contact him after the shooting and all. She might be making a trip over to Grey's soon, by all indication.

So are we enjoying Grey's Anatomy this season? I liked the documentary-style episode. I've enjoyed looking into to the psyche of the characters in the post-shooting timeframe. So it has been a good series of episodes for me. Looks like it is coming to a head next week.

It was a bit of a shock to see that Callie and Arizona will be gone. I heard the lady that plays Arizona had a baby and needs some time off, but Callie? She's like a cornerstone of their cast. Maybe something will happen to change her mind at the last minute before leaving to Africa.

There's not a Private Practice thread and I don't think there is enough interest to start one, so here are my thoughts on it, particularly the last, shocking minute of the episode:

I was completely taken by surprise at what happened to Charlotte. This is going to have serious repercussions for these characters. I welcome the plot twist. It has been a big stagnate. I don't particularly like Addison and Sam together. Wondering where Naomi is. I like Derek's sister being added to the cast. She's a good one. But yah, I can't wait for this week's episode to see the fallout from Charlotte's attack.

So are we enjoying Grey's Anatomy this season? I liked the documentary-style episode. I've enjoyed looking into to the psyche of the characters in the post-shooting timeframe. So it has been a good series of episodes for me. Looks like it is coming to a head next week.

It was a bit of a shock to see that Callie and Arizona will be gone. I heard the lady that plays Arizona had a baby and needs some time off, but Callie? She's like a cornerstone of their cast. Maybe something will happen to change her mind at the last minute before leaving to Africa.

There's not a Private Practice thread and I don't think there is enough interest to start one, so here are my thoughts on it, particularly the last, shocking minute of the episode:

I was completely taken by surprise at what happened to Charlotte. This is going to have serious repercussions for these characters. I welcome the plot twist. It has been a big stagnate. I don't particularly like Addison and Sam together. Wondering where Naomi is. I like Derek's sister being added to the cast. She's a good one. But yah, I can't wait for this week's episode to see the fallout from Charlotte's attack.

I read an article on this. Even though I don't watch the show anymore, Callie and Arizona will still be on the show. It'll only be a short period of time where they are "rarely" on the show. They'll be back in full force after a short period of time.

That was a pretty funny episode; nice to have a lighter tone. Good to see Mark and Callie together. :)

Although... that moment when Lexi told the parents their younger son had passed away was chilling. I've worked in a hospital before and that was so authentically acted, it sent shivers across my skin.

Uh uh.. you saw last show right? then it kind of repeats on real life, at least nobody has blamed the show.. whew!

They did exactly the same thing for the brain swelling in real life and we kinda know what's it's about now..

But sadly not everyone made it alive in current events, unlike Grey's

Callie pregnant? Holy crap. This week will be interesting, provided they keep up with new episodes every week. (see my post in Castle)

Hey everyone! did anyone see Thursday's episode? There was this song by this great band- I think called The Boxer's Rebellion and I was wondering if anyone knew it! Love the show! Thanks!

Hey everyone! did anyone see Thursday's episode? There was this song by this great band- I think called The Boxer's Rebellion and I was wondering if anyone knew it! Love the show! Thanks!

Saw it, but I don't care for the music. It's all white noise to me. I *did* like that a Ben Folds song was on once a couple years ago.

Well, the musical episode was tonight. Sara Ramirez did a good job; the rest of the cast? Well, they are actors, not singers. Autotune was definitely squeezed for all it was worth. Most of the song selections were good, but there were a couple near the beginning that didn't make much sense. "How to Save a Life" was definitely the highlight.

Well, the musical episode was tonight. Sara Ramirez did a good job; the rest of the cast? Well, they are actors, not singers. Autotune was definitely squeezed for all it was worth. Most of the song selections were good, but there were a couple near the beginning that didn't make much sense. "How to Save a Life" was definitely the highlight.

Doesn't come close to both of Buffy's episodes, but Sara did a really good job.

Kate Walsh was wasted.

Sara singed well, the rest.. meh.. some songs were boring as hell..

As for a musical on this show.. not for me.. specially if it was a very important stuff going on...

Wow seriously nobody posts here anymore?

(even got an old thread warning)

So.... they will likely lose Zola, but I don't understand, if Yang can't take care of a child and Meredith wants a child why they just don't take Yang's child and problem solved?

Too bad Yang went ahead with the abortion.. now what.

At least it was consistent with Yang. She did not have some massive Juno guilt flip at the end which would have been very Hollywood.

Agree, zalusky. When the doctor asked one more time, I was thinking, they better not undo this character and have her change her mind.

I'm really wondering how they are all going to get out of this clinical trial ethical mess.

So.... they will likely lose Zola, but I don't understand, if Yang can't take care of a child and Meredith wants a child why they just don't take Yang's child and problem solved?

Coming from experiences with DCFS, it doesn't work that way. They take your kid, you fight tooth & nail to get them back, while they throw everything they can to crush you in every way possible. My wife and I fought all the time like Mer & Der did last night.

Besides, would you want Yang to be whining about the pregnancy for the whole season til she pops? At least Callie's kept the plot interesting.

I can see why comments are down. It's like the core personalities have shifted, almost as if they wrote the script and randomly assigned names. It's annoying, as is the 10:02 ending. Either I chop off the conclusion, or miss the scene-setting intro of my next show. I hate being manipulated.

I can see why comments are down. It's like the core personalities have shifted, almost as if they wrote the script and randomly assigned names. It's annoying, as is the 10:02 ending. Either I chop off the conclusion, or miss the scene-setting intro of my next show. I hate being manipulated.

I don't think they want you to change channels.