missed most of the show. looked good considering i want to be a dr. but does it fall into the er category?

It was an excellent show. For some reason I never got into the habit of ER but I think this one shows great promise.

- Tom

Originally posted by sayanythingrock
missed most of the show. looked good considering i want to be a dr. but does it fall into the er category?

It is in the ER catagory in the area that it's set in a hospitol. ER focuses more on the...ER, surprisingly. GA , after one ep, seems to be more about the residents lives , mixed with doc stuff.

Good cast. I liked the show and will make a point to watch it.

It is another hospital show with, intensity, “meaningful” music, interns with attitudes, better looking nurses than in any hospital I have ever been, and lots of drama. Maybe I will see it one more time.

Yiozik

I think this one might have a chance. The shots of Seattle in HD were incredible.

Originally posted by yiozik
It is another hospital show with, intensity, “meaningful” music, interns with attitudes, better looking nurses than in any hospital I have ever been, and lots of drama. Maybe I will see it one more time.

Yiozik

Haven't seen the show yet (have it on TIVO), but can believe the nurse comment. Just check out CSI; I'm sure the forensic investigators at your local lab are that gorgeous.

I liked it. I've been a big ER fan since the beginning and I think this has the potential to be as good as it was.

BTW, I don't know what Yiozik was watching but all the nurses looked like regular people to me.

Recorded the show, but haven't watched yet.

Don't be a Doctor, the medical profession is extremely hateful!

Nice PQ of Seattle. I think this show may make it. Why do interns have to go through an elongated " Hell Week " ??? I want my doctor well rested !!


Bill

i saw the first ~3 minutes of it...seemed kinda cool...i have it on the RTV so i'll prolly watch it this week some time...as for the music, i remember the one promo had a song from The Postal Service and i stopped watching last night (the end of Desparate Housewives bled into it) right when they started playing the Rilo Kiley song (at least i'm prettysure it was them)...very promising indeed :).

sturmie

Originally posted by jambroni
Recorded the show, but haven't watched yet.

Don't be a Doctor, the medical profession is extremely hateful!

I'm still trying to figure out the logic behind 48 hour shifts ... Personally, I'd much rather have a doctor that's had a good uninterrupted 7-8hr sleep cycle. But what do I know ;) :D

My wife made the same comment on the shift lengths. You might want a doctor fresh on their sleep, but would you want to know that your info on what is going on with your case to be retold 5 times in 48 hours? Plus, they are interns on call so they don't stay up for 48 hrs. straight but basically live in the hospital for 2 days. I believe firefighters do the same thing although I am not sure how long their "on call" period is.

uh, if you want to be a dr. do NOT watch any medical dramas. you may get the idea that nurses are competent and motivated to do their job, attendings are crabby but generally caring, you have a social life and occasional sex, and work is full of drama and not 99% tedium and exhaustion.

Originally posted by HDTVChallenged
I'm still trying to figure out the logic behind 48 hour shifts ...http://www.rangelmd.com/2004/11/good-and-bad-of-medical-education.html

The overall ratings for Grey's Anatomy were up slightly from Boston Legal levels. The 18-49 ratings were up substantially.

Lusty debut for ABC's 'Grey's Anatomy'

medialifemagazine.com—The network knew that it would pull a huge audience for the return of “Desperate Housewives” last night after four weeks of reruns. So it premiered the Seattle-based medical drama “Grey’s Anatomy” Sunday after “Housewives,” and the show delivered a promising debut.

In the 10 p.m. timeslot usually occupied by “Boston Legal,” “Anatomy” averaged a 7.2 rating among viewers 18-49 according to Nielsen overnights, 46.9 percent better than the 4.9 “Legal” has averaged season-to-date. The show was able to steal some viewers from NBC’s competing “Crossing Jordan,” which averaged a 3.7 rating, down 11.9 percent from its 4.2 season-to-date average.

Of course “Anatomy” benefited from having “Housewives” as its lead-in. The show was the night’s highest-rated among 18-49s with a 10.7 average, slightly higher than its 10.3 season-to-date average, though down from an 11.0 rating for its last original episode on Feb. 20. “Grey’s” retained 67 percent of its lead-in. That’s not a great number—80 percent is considered the minimum for success—but when the show is as disproportionately popular as “Housewives,” 67 percent isn’t awful.

“Grey’s” averaged 16.2 million total viewers compared with 24 million for “Housewives.” "Legal" averaged 12.6 million total viewers thus far this season, about 30 percent less than "Grey's" drew. The show’s 18-49 rating dipped just 9 percent from its first half-hour to its second, another good indicator of whether people will tune in next week. “Grey’s” is scheduled to run three more weeks before “Boston” returns.

Originally posted by dt_dc
http://www.rangelmd.com/2004/11/good-and-bad-of-medical-education.html

Well I've actually worked a 36 hour shift or three ... I wouldn't have wanted myself to make potentialy life threatening decisions beyond the 16 hr point ... Granted I was more or less awake for the entire 36hr stretch. Futhermore, it usually took at least three recovery days before I began to feel "normal" again. But again, what the heck do I know? ;) :D

Originally posted by dmbatch
I liked it. I've been a big ER fan since the beginning and I think this has the potential to be as good as it was.

BTW, I don't know what Yiozik was watching but all the nurses looked like regular people to me.

I don't remember seeing even one "good looking" nurse either...

It was a nice middle ground between Scrubs (a favorite of mine) and ER (stopped watching about 10 years ago). A lot less silly than Scrubs, but not as serious as ER. I happened to be watching with my mother-in-law, and she didn't seem to like it as well. She kept commenting how things couldn't really be like that in a hospital. I think for her, ER = plausably real, Scrubs = pure fantasy, but she couldn't really put Grey's Anatomy to one side or the other -- it moved around a bit. Anyway, I'll watch next week but I'm sure she isn't alone in feeling a bit disturbed by it (comments like "they wouldn't let someone operate by themselves on the first day," and "they wouldn't really be that mean to them").

Originally posted by kevinstu
It was a nice middle ground between Scrubs (a favorite of mine) and ER (stopped watching about 10 years ago). A lot less silly than Scrubs, but not as serious as ER. I happened to be watching with my mother-in-law, and she didn't seem to like it as well. She kept commenting how things couldn't really be like that in a hospital. I think for her, ER = plausably real, Scrubs = pure fantasy, but she couldn't really put Grey's Anatomy to one side or the other -- it moved around a bit. Anyway, I'll watch next week but I'm sure she isn't alone in feeling a bit disturbed by it (comments like "they wouldn't let someone operate by themselves on the first day," and "they wouldn't really be that mean to them").

I asked my wife about that stuff. She was a nurse for 30 years in a major DC area hospital. She said the way they treated the interns was fairly realistic. They don't do those 36 to 48 hour shifts all the time but most do the first few times they work.

As a viewer I really don't care how close to reality it is, I just liked to be entertained. This show was entertaining.

Originally posted by keenan
I don't remember seeing even one "good looking" nurse either...

That is really too bad.

Then I guess I was having a better time than you did!

Yiozik

Originally posted by yiozik
That is really too bad.

Then I guess I was having a better time than you did!

Yiozik

I watched the first 20 minutes and will watch the rest on Tivo. However, I have to agree with everyone in respect to how the nurses and attendees looked. They were average looking girls, but it wasn't as though women who look like them don't work in hospitals. Maybe, I'm not sure, only guessing here, but I wasn't tipsy at all and that probably resulted my opinion of the women. ;)

The few times I've been in a hospital (most recently Detroit area) I thought they had a good share of pretty nurses and doctors. Maybe I'm just easily attracted to nurses for some reason.

- Tom

Originally posted by yiozik
That is really too bad.

Then I guess I was having a better time than you did!

Yiozik

Well, there was that one hot male nurse.... http://www.lesbian-travel-guide.net/images-gay/smiley.gif

Originally posted by dmbatch
Well, there was that one hot male nurse.... http://www.lesbian-travel-guide.net/images-gay/smiley.gif

I think the two blond ones were well above average looking.

Having said that, which is the male nurse you had your eyes on?

Yiozik

Unfortunately the broadcast came through choppy for me and my fiancee and thus we missed parts of the show. The sound and picture kept breaking up. It was a problem with the ABC feed as it was happening during Desperate Housewives too. Hopefully next week will be better so I can watch it in HD instead of SD.

I enjoyed what I saw though...

Originally posted by keenan
I don't remember seeing even one "good looking" nurse either...

Good looking nurses . . . don't remember.

Good looking doctors . . . at least one. Meet Katherine Heigl (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001337/), voted one of the top 100 sexiest women in the world by FHM readers this year. She plays Izzie Stevens, a "small-town girl who grew up dirt poor and, in spite of paying for her medical career by modeling, still struggles with her self-esteem." (TvTome)

http://home.tiscalinet.ch/uerueluem/katherineheigl/index/pic/Bilder/pic4.jpg

I agree.

My favorite alien. Strange she has the same first name and nickname on this show.

Now if he'd said hot doctors.....

Originally posted by dmbatch
My favorite alien. Strange she has the same first name and nickname on this show.

LOL ... I wonder if the "nazi" doctor was an homage to the "Christmas Nazi." Now all we need is another preggers Clair to show up.

Originally posted by HDTVChallenged
LOL ... I wonder if the "nazi" doctor was an homage to the "Christmas Nazi." Now all we need is another preggers Clair to show up.

Yeah, I thought that was strange too.

"Grey's Anatomy" soars in 18-49

Sunday's debut of the new ABC series "Grey's Anatomy" got a 7.2 rating in the 18-49 demographic ABC targets.
That is the second highest 18-49 rating for the premiere episode of a new series this season.
The only series to do better: "Desperate Housewives".

Originally posted by HDTVChallenged
I'm still trying to figure out the logic behind 48 hour shifts ... Personally, I'd much rather have a doctor that's had a good uninterrupted 7-8hr sleep cycle. But what do I know ;) :D

Having been through a 5 yr surgery residency, I can tell you that 48 hr shifts do not exist. Recently there have been changes mandating an 80 hr work week with dedicated time off. Even before this, no one worked more that 36-40 hrs in a row.

I wish someone would do a realistic show about residents. These guys do general surgery, cardiac surgery, and brain surgery! amazing!

Anywho, I thought the picture was somewhat soft.

In Roswell, Ms. Heigl played Isabel. Here she plays Isobel.
I'll be watching this again next week.

Originally posted by jdspencer
In Roswell, Ms. Heigl played Isabel. Here she plays Isobel.
I'll be watching this again next week.

Apparently she's played an "Isabel" at three different times during her career, spelled three different ways.

another great episode tonight, man the lead girl from old school is super skinny.

I saw this for the first time tonite. My wife loves medical shows; I usually don't care for them; but thought this wasn't too bad. Recognized on actress; the asian girl who used to play the secretary/assistant on Arliss.

Thought the picture was very good; especially outdoor shots of Seattle.

Originally posted by sayanythingrock
another great episode tonight, man the lead girl from old school is super skinny.

Yeah, she's about half Catherine's size and even smaller than Sandra.

Originally posted by dmbatch
My favorite alien. Strange she has the same first name and nickname on this show.

Yeah, Katherine Heigl is the reason I'm watching this show. After two episodes it seems alright. Hopefully it'll turn out to be a great series.

Originally posted by Lance42
Having been through a 5 yr surgery residency, I can tell you that 48 hr shifts do not exist. Recently there have been changes mandating an 80 hr work week with dedicated time off. Even before this, no one worked more that 36-40 hrs in a row.

I wish someone would do a realistic show about residents. These guys do general surgery, cardiac surgery, and brain surgery! amazing!

Anywho, I thought the picture was somewhat soft.

i've been toying around with the idea of wanting to do residency in surgery after i get in and out of med school, and i was thinking the same thing about how unrealistic it is and frankly distracting to people who are in or want to be in the field. I prefer the lighthearted nature of scrubs because at least they admit it to being a comedic farse. But i'll still be watching this show, as it has the potential for good drama, i think.

the only thing i dont like about this show is Sandra Oh (Arliss/Sideways), she's too old and bitchy to be plausible... i dont know, i just dont like her too much

They explained that the Sandra Oh's character is older because she also got a Ph.D as well as a M.D. on her way to her internship. She probably changed career choices, and had to do the med school thing after getting her Ph.D.

Watched it for the first time last night and enjoyed it....

Doesn't seem overly realistic, but neither is ER...

Funny..I too want to go back to school and go to Med School.

ABC has a new hit in 'Grey's Anatomy'
Even stronger second outing following 'Housewives'

medialifemagazine.com---Going into last night’s second episode of ABC’s “Grey’s Anatomy,” the question was whether it could hold the promising audience it earned as the lead-out to “Desperate Housewives” last week.

Not only did the show hold its 18-49 audience, it built on it --and with no improvement from its “Housewives” lead-in -- “Anatomy” boosted its total viewers from 16.2 million last week to 18.2 million last night, as well as its rating among 18-49s from 7.2 to 7.9. Making that feat more impressive is that fact that “Desperate Housewives” averaged a 10.7 among 18-49s both nights.

Further, last night’s 7.9 average for “Grey’s Anatomy” was a 61.2 percent increase on what “Boston Legal” had averaged season-to-date in the same 10 p.m. timeslot.

The show had received decent reviews but nothing really to suggest that it could put up numbers comparable to another ABC first-year show, “Lost,” which averages a 6.0 on Wednesdays.

Barring a total collapse in the next two weeks of its limited run, “Grey’s” will certainly return next season, perhaps bumping “Boston” to another night.

Originally posted by fredfa
Barring a total collapse in the next two weeks of its limited run, “Grey’s” will certainly return next season, perhaps bumping “Boston” to another night.

I figured it'd be a very short first season but not that short. Oh well, let's just hope it gets better as it goes on. IMO the show has promise.

Originally posted by jdspencer
In Roswell, Ms. Heigl played Isabel. Here she plays Isobel.
I'll be watching this again next week.

what happened to K Heigl? I didn't even recognize her. It's like she had the va va va voom sucked out of her.

The only reason I'm watching the show is b/c of Sandra O. I think that the show should tone down on the playing of music for each scene. I wa watching last night thinking that some of the scenes can stand on their own without the music. I also don't need to constantly hear the voice-over from the intern who seems to always end the show on a preachy-note. Uh! If they tone down on the items I mentioned then the should would be better.

This episode was not as good as the premiere, IMO.

Originally posted by barth2k
what happened to K Heigl? I didn't even recognize her. It's like she had the va va va voom sucked out of her.

you mean her hotness in real life or on the show?

if on the show, i assume there isnt alot of super models type going through med school...

although she did reveal that she used to model in a quickie segment on the second episode.

in real life, i dont think she lost any hotness... ;)

i like the storyline of grey's mother and how she isnt revealing her mother has alzheimers...

According to "Variety" 13 episodes have been shot. The nine after this inital four were to be played in the summer or to begin next season.

ABC's 'Grey' area
'Anatomy' adds muscle in second week

By RICK KISSELL Variety.com

ABC may have a scheduling dilemma on its hands after new medical drama "Grey's Anatomy" looked even stronger in its second Sunday outing.

The net is skedded to return "Boston Legal" to the 10 o'clock hour April 24, but Alphabet programmers must be considering an extension of the Sunday stay for "Grey's Anatomy," which is delivering the time period's best numbers in years.

On Sunday, according to preliminary nationals from Nielsen, ABC swept every half-hour in primetime among young adults, paced by another boffo score for "Desperate Housewives" and more big numbers for "Grey's," which became the first drama of the season -- new or returning -- to build its ratings from premiere week to its second telecast.

"Grey's Anatomy" registered an impressive 7.9 rating/19 share in adults 18-49 and 18.2 million viewers overall to dominate its time period. Even if it declines a tad in nationals -- likely since "Desperate Housewives" spilled over into the 10 o'clock hour by a couple of minutes -- "Grey's" will have grown by 7%-8% from its already strong bow.

ABC hasn't done better Sunday at 10 with a regular program since "The Practice" in May 2001.
"Desperate Housewives" matched its week-ago score to dominate at 9 (prelim 10.7/24 in 18-49, 24.4 million viewers overall), meaning "Grey's" held onto an even bigger chunk of its lead-in than last week's 67% retention. Previous slot occupant "Boston Legal" averaged roughly a 50% hold.

ABC execs soon must make a decision regarding "Grey's," which has long wrapped its 13-episode order. The show could either remain on Sunday, shift to another night for the May sweep (a dicey prospect for a new show) or end its run as planned after four episodes and return in the summer or fall with a surplus of fresh segs.

For its part, "Boston Legal" could return as planned to Sunday, play out its final episodes on another night (perhaps Tuesday at 10) or roll over any unaired episodes to its presumed second season.

Originally posted by Lance42
Having been through a 5 yr surgery residency, I can tell you that 48 hr shifts do not exist. Recently there have been changes mandating an 80 hr work week with dedicated time off. Even before this, no one worked more that 36-40 hrs in a row.

I wish someone would do a realistic show about residents. These guys do general surgery, cardiac surgery, and brain surgery! amazing!

Anywho, I thought the picture was somewhat soft.

Well I can offer a contrasting point of view - I am in the 5th year of my 7 year general surgery residency, and for the first 3 years straight, I was on call every third night, overnight, and through the next day. I easily exceeded 40 hours on many occasions, often awake continuously. I logged >120 hours in a week many times. Programs differ in their hours.

The 80 hour work week has changed things quite a bit, in that we have set up a 'night-float' system, who covers every night so we can go home. Still around 80-90 hours a week. Whether or not this is good for patient care is still hotly debated. No one I "sign off" to knows the patients as well as I did when I was there continuously.

It's nice to see a medical show that's actually about surgeons though, in real training programs, the difference between surgical training and medical training is night and day - don't think turk and JD work the same hours - they don't! Surgery in particular is grueling.

I do wish they did not group all "surgeons" together (ER does this too), someone who does brain surgery does not turn around and do heart surgery the next day - that would require a total of 16 years of training, after medical school.

I like the show, and I'll continue to watch-

Lee

In the opening scenes of the first episode, the scriptwriters chose to establish that the main character is a slut. This was before anything else was revealed about her. Apparently, they deemed this part of her was more important than her status as a medical doctor. This tells me something about the type of audience they hope to attract. Perhaps they figured this kind of opening was the best way to keep the "Desperate Housewives" crowd from changing channels. I would have preferred to have first learned some of the good things about her.

Oddly, Grey's character since this, has been portrayed as being one of integrity and dedication to her job. It seems that many of the main figures in recent TV series, are having their images routinely besmirched. Maybe, in today's world, viewers like television characters better when they have flaws, similar to their own.

Is it best to have fictional heroes and heroines that have feet of clay or should they have morals and behavior that are more admirable? It's expected that there will be some characters in these shows who are "bad guys", but is it necessary to ascribe negative traits to them all, in order to make them acceptable and believable to the audience?

As far as hospital shows go, I liked "Chicago Hope" best. Another good one from the past was a cop/doctor show, featuring Dennis Franz and Maud Adams, that had 90-minute episodes. Who remembers its name?

Chicago Story...I cheated, looked it up on Tv Tome....I don't remember the show myself..if I saw some clips, maybe..

Originally posted by Steve McD
This tells me something about the type of audience they hope to attract. Perhaps they figured this kind of opening was the best way to keep the "Desperate Housewives" crowd from changing channels. I would have preferred to have first learned some of the good things about her.I think the opening credits answer the question of the type audience they hope to attract. Trying to be a serious medical show with the opening credits showing feet tangled up under the sheets indicates to me they are focusing on the Desperate Housewives group. I fear that the show might take a Melrose Place in a Hospital twist down the road.

Wow, some people are pretty judgmental I guess. We see that the girl has presumably engaged in one "pickup" night so she's instantly branded a slut? :rolleyes:

As far as the show goes, I recorded this weeks ep and watched it last night. After two shows now I have to say it's not doing all that much for me. The combination of seriousness, comedy and all-too-sweet "moral of the story" factors is just a little too much IMO.

ron

Originally posted by Steve McD
Perhaps they figured this kind of opening was the best way to keep the "Desperate Housewives" crowd from changing channels.

I have enjoyed the show so far, oddly enough you couldn't pay me to watch Desperate Housewives which you have just compared to Grey's Anatomy.

I enjoy Greys Anatomy. It's fun. I tried watching the first 5 or 6 episodes of Desperate Housewives but couldn't take it anymore. It was too drawn out and boring to me. I don't get peoples infatuation with it.

Originally posted by R11
Wow, some people are pretty judgmental I guess. We see that the girl has presumably engaged in one "pickup" night so she's instantly branded a slut? :rolleyes:

ron

hey if I'm heading into a surgical internship I'd be sure to have a one nighter first because I probably won't be getting any action for a while.

Originally posted by barth2k
hey if I'm heading into a surgical internship I'd be sure to have a one nighter first because I probably won't be getting any action for a while. barth, you're such a slut! :D

ron

Originally posted by Daryl L
I enjoy Greys Anatomy. It's fun. I tried watching the first 5 or 6 episodes of Desperate Housewives but couldn't take it anymore. It was too drawn out and boring to me. I don't get peoples infatuation with it. With Desparate Housewives they don't make any pretenses of being based in reality. It's like a mysterious, storybook show. And besides, anything with a theme song done by Danny Elfman has instant redeeming qualities :cool:.

ron

Originally posted by Daryl L
I enjoy Greys Anatomy. It's fun. I tried watching the first 5 or 6 episodes of Desperate Housewives but couldn't take it anymore.
Heh, I almost wrote the exact same thing, except I only got into 3 or 4 episodes of Housewives before giving up.

Originally posted by R11
With Desparate Housewives they don't make any pretenses of being based in reality. I realized that before it ever started. :) But I would sit through the episodes waiting for something interesting to happen but never did. The only interesting moments I saw was Terri snooping and getting stuck in the guys upstairs floor, When Terri burnt Nicollettes house down and When the Chest was pulled out of the lake. And thhose were only marginally interesting. But it just wasn't my taste, but apperently it is many other viewers taste.

Originally posted by R11
Wow, some people are pretty judgmental I guess. We see that the girl has presumably engaged in one "pickup" night so she's instantly branded a slut? :rolleyes:

Yes, that's right. Younger people I know would call her a skank. If you can hook-up with a girl after meeting her for a couple of hours in a bar, she would be what my friends and I call a skank or a hoe if you like. I mean what would you call said girl, demure? No self-respecting woman would let any Tom, Dick or Harry "drop the hammer" on her that quickly. In the second episode I think it was established that she is a little slut, b/c she was all over the doctor she slept with after first trying to deny that she wanted some more of him and also overlooking the fact the he is her supervisor. How dumb is that? I'm a new employee but I'm going to sleep with my supervisor. Veryyyy smart! Not really!

Originally posted by AFH
Yes, that's right. Younger people I know would call her a skank. If you can hook-up with a girl after meeting her for a couple of hours in a bar, she would be what my friends and I call a skank or a hoe if you like. I mean what would you call said girl, demure? No self-respecting woman would let any Tom, Dick or Harry "drop the hammer" on her that quickly. In the second episode I think it was established that she is a little slut, b/c she was all over the doctor she slept with after first trying to deny that she wanted some more of him and also overlooking the fact the he is her supervisor. How dumb is that? I'm a new employee but I'm going to sleep with my supervisor. Veryyyy smart! Not really! Hmmm, interesting point of view from a guy who's made some rather, shall we say, detailed posts about various womens body parts, what you'd like to do with them and how you'd like to do it :). But I digress...

We clearly have different definitions of what a slut is. To me a slut has always been a girl who will *sleep* with anyone and everyone. What we know about this girl is she had a single one nighter. For all we know she may be quite selective ;). It seems we also have different definitions for what constitutes a skank is as well. Oh well, best of luck to you in your pursuit of all those "hotties" as your sig always says. Just make sure not to shack up with any of them before you make each other a committment or we may just have to call you a slut too. Or is it just not right for women to do it in your book?

ron

I think this has been an excellent show and another mega hit for ABC. Where did all of these shows come from? Lost, Desperate and now GA! I find my tuner on ABC more now then the last few decades.

I see there are are some fellow Roswellians out there and even some who continue to bash poor Emilie! :(

Originally posted by Barrybud
I think this has been an excellent show and another mega hit for ABC. Where did all of these shows come from? Lost, Desperate and now GA!
I'm just happy with the return to popularity of Dramas/Dramedies again. It seemed like "reality tv" was taking over every fricking timeslot. The lowlight of tv history for me was when Fox cancelled Wonderfalls and replaced it with a rerun episode of The Swan... and it got better ratings, sheesh.

Originally posted by Barrybud
I see there are are some fellow Roswellians out there and even some who continue to bash poor Emilie! :(

LOL ... for my part it wasn't a bash, just an observation that she tends to wind up in the family way wherever she goes.

Originally posted by Barrybud
I think this has been an excellent show and another mega hit for ABC. Where did all of these shows come from? Lost, Desperate and now GA! I find my tuner on ABC more now then the last few decades.

Originally posted by AlvinKlein
I'm just happy with the return to popularity of Dramas/Dramedies again. It seemed like "reality tv" was taking over every fricking timeslot. The lowlight of tv history for me was when Fox cancelled Wonderfalls and replaced it with a rerun episode of The Swan... and it got better ratings, sheesh.

Agreed. I am enjoying all these shows. This type of programming can only be a good thing for TV in general. Right now, there are only a few reality shows getting any real ratings. I hope that trend continues. I don't have a real problem with the idea of reality TV in general, I just hated the glut of such shows that were on the air a season or two ago.

CBS and NBC are pimping out their hit shows in multiple incarnations at the expense of my eyeballs. I'm lukewarm on CSI: Las Vegas and don't watch the others. I've given up on Law and Order completely. ABC provides most of my broadcast programming right now. CBS has never drawn me in for moe than one or two shows a week.

The two types of shows I'm missing right now are a good time travel-based show (those are hard to do without resorting to the "Finding Jack the Ripper" or "Hunting Hitler" episodes) and a horror/suspense drama. The latter seems to be creeping into the schedule in couple spots, so I'll check those out (though, from what I've seen so far from "Point Pleasant", the networks aren't pulling out their A-games for them - I do like "Medium", though).

Network TV wants some good time-travel based shows.
Here you go: PBS runs 3 beautifully shot HD programs, "Smart Travels", "The Desert Speaks" and "Tracks Ahead". Most of the locations and content of these shows involve a lot of traveling and take you back to the cultures of the 19th Century or earlier. Of course, this is all real stuff, not fantasy.

Looks like Grey's Anatomy has the 10pm timeslot behind Housewives locked up for the rest of the season. Zap2it (http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|94613|1|,00.html) reports that Boston Legal's planned return on April 24 has changed. ABC will now roll over the 5 remaining episodes of BL to next season.

Originally posted by AlvinKlein
Looks like Grey's Anatomy has the 10pm timeslot behind Housewives locked up for the rest of the season. Zap2it (http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|94613|1|,00.html) reports that Boston Legal's planned return on April 24 has changed. ABC will now roll over the 5 remaining episodes of BL to next season.

That is fine by me. After being a loyal fan of The Practice since it's inception I found Boston Legal to be a poor substitute. I really enjoy GA and hope it continues for a very long time.

Originally posted by AlvinKlein
Looks like Grey's Anatomy has the 10pm timeslot behind Housewives locked up for the rest of the season. Zap2it (http://tv.zap2it.com/tveditorial/tve_main/1,1002,271|94613|1|,00.html) reports that Boston Legal's planned return on April 24 has changed. ABC will now roll over the 5 remaining episodes of BL to next season.

Meh. That's quite unfortunate, IMO. Oh well . . . more fun for next season.

Originally posted by Jimbo Moran
That is fine by me. After being a loyal fan of The Practice since it's inception I found Boston Legal to be a poor substitute. I really enjoy GA and hope it continues for a very long time.

If anything, I thought Boston Legal was meant as a substitute for Ally McBeal. It seemed like Boston Legal was David E. Kelley's chance to revisit the Ally McBeal concept and ameliorate old problems that lead it astray.

For anyone who missed them the first 2 episodes are re-airing tonight on ABC.

Originally posted by AFH
Yes, that's right. Younger people I know would call her a skank. If you can hook-up with a girl after meeting her for a couple of hours in a bar, she would be what my friends and I call a skank or a hoe if you like. I mean what would you call said girl, demure? No self-respecting woman would let any Tom, Dick or Harry "drop the hammer" on her that quickly. In the second episode I think it was established that she is a little slut, b/c she was all over the doctor she slept with after first trying to deny that she wanted some more of him and also overlooking the fact the he is her supervisor. How dumb is that? I'm a new employee but I'm going to sleep with my supervisor. Veryyyy smart! Not really!

I dunno . . . last time I checked people were fallible. If Grey had one-night stands every weekend then I could see with the characterization. From what I could see, Grey was pretty embarrassed by what happened and was just trying to deal. In actuality, the way she's continuing with the doctor seems to fit the mousy, naive, reluctantly infatuated archetype you find in one of every two romantic comedies. In other words, she's more Meg Ryan than Kim Cattrall.

Still, I do agree with the view that the opening scene sheds some light on who the show's target audience is. Grey's Anatomy ain't ER.

Finally, I too am annoyed with Grey narrating the show. It just feels unnatural. Grey is not a strong enough character to justify compromising what could otherwise become a great ensemble drama. With any luck, they'll quit that later on in the season.

"In other words, she's more Meg Ryan than Kim Cattrall."

The Meg Ryan of old may no longer be.Check out "In the Cut"

Last nights episode brought the human interaction more into play. I can see this show growing week by week and am enjoying the direction in which it is heading.

My Comcast PVR decided to instead record the analog version and ended up somehow with something with no audio that could not be paused or FF'd. Drat.

I'll pick it up on the repeat.

- Tom

I can't believe they had Oh's character talk to the family about organ donation, apparently giving her no script/preparation and knowing her people skills are awful. what happened to "first one you watch, next one you do"?

She's a slut. Sure.

Of course, if it had been a guy, he'd be a total stud.

Note, I agree with neither of the above, they are for illustrative purposes only.

To me, she is easily the most appealing and interesting thing about the show through two eps. Smart. Cute. Imperfect.

Thriving Ratings for a New Patient on ABC

By JOE RHODES The New York Times April 14, 2005


Even before this week's announcement that the medical drama "Grey's Anatomy," originally scheduled for only a four-week run, would remain in ABC's Sunday-night lineup through the May ratings sweeps period and for the rest of the season - bumping David E. Kelley's "Boston Legal" off the air until fall - Shonda Rhimes, the show's creator and an executive producer, was getting the feeling that her life was about to change.

"I started hearing from people I haven't spoken to since fifth grade," she said, asked if there had been any early indicators that "Grey's Anatomy," her first television series, would become such an out-of-nowhere ratings phenomenon. The program averages more than 17 million viewers a week, according to Nielsen Media Research, and the audience is increasing with each episode. That is 5 million more than "Boston Legal" drew in the same 10 p.m. time slot, following "Desperate Housewives."

"And then my mom in Columbus, Ohio, got a call from her congressman," Ms. Rhimes said. "So I knew there was something going on."

In the announcement that "Grey's Anatomy" would stay on the air, Steve McPherson, ABC Entertainment president, also said that "Boston Legal," a drama about lawyers starring James Spader and William Shatner, which is finishing its first year as a successful spinoff from "The Practice," would return next season with 27 new episodes, including five that were to be broadcast this spring. "Grey's Anatomy" had been in development at ABC since September.

Asked why the network would risk an unproven show like "Grey's Anatomy" in such a sought-after time slot, Francie Calfo, executive vice president for development at ABC Entertainment, said, " 'Boston Legal' had obviously caught on, the growing pains were behind it and we felt like it was a safe time to play around with the schedule a little bit."

"One thing Steve and I talk about every time we find a show we love is, 'Let's not blow it,' " she said. "Let's put it somewhere where we feel we can really launch it. And we thought this was the best opportunity."

Ms. Rhimes said that the large female audience for "Desperate Housewives" provided the perfect lead-in for her relationship-heavy show, focusing on a group of five struggling surgical interns at a Seattle hospital, three of them women, including the female title character, Dr. Meredith Grey (played by Ellen Pompeo).

Ms. Calfo said: "I think there was a need for this kind of show on our air, specifically a medical show. And Shonda found a twist on it that made it perfect for where we're at right now. Medical shows are hard, and it was hard trying to figure out where ours could be different. But where everybody else is speeding up their medical shows, she found a way to slow it down, so you get to know the characters. There's definitely a strong female appeal to it."

Ms. Rimes explained that "the idea of having a show about smart women who compete against one another was interesting to me." Commenting on the healthy ratings for "Grey's Anatomy," Steve Sternberg, a media analyst with Magna Global USA, said: "Roughly 80 percent of households during prime time only have one TV set on. People are looking for shows they can watch with other household members. And just as 'Desperate Housewives' reaches a broad audience - younger, older, male, female - so does 'Grey's Anatomy.' "

Officially, "Grey's Anatomy" has not been renewed for next season, although that announcement could come soon. ABC executives also emphasized that they had not decided which show would follow "Housewives" next season.

"Grey's Anatomy" and "Boston Legal" could also appear elsewhere on the schedule and ABC could use the slot, and its accompanying audience, to introduce another show.

"There's no way you can predict what will work best," Ms. Calfo said. "But we know we have at least two strong pieces, which is a great place to start."

Personally I love this show but... I'm waiting for her to start seeing dancing babies. I referred to it last night as Dr. McBeal. It seems to have the same flavor.

Hellooooo kitty.

Great PQ tonight, ABC OTA. My Wife likes the show a lot; I'm warming up to it I think (not a big fan of medical shows).

To me, she is easily the most appealing and interesting thing about the show through two eps. Smart. Cute. Imperfect.

Yep. Definitely what he said.

Asked why the network would risk an unproven show like "Grey's Anatomy" in such a sought-after time slot, Francie Calfo, executive vice president for development at ABC Entertainment, said, " 'Boston Legal' had obviously caught on, the growing pains were behind it and we felt like it was a safe time to play around with the schedule a little bit."

I really like Boston Legal. But I think I like Grey's Anatomy more, which maybe surprises me a bit.

- Tom

The ratings for "Grey's Anatomy" continue to rise:

(From Marc Berman’s Programming Insider column Monday, April 18, 2005 at Mediaweek.com)
Led by Desperate Housewives (Overnights: #1, 17.4/25; Viewers: #1, 24.57 million; A18-49: #1, 10.5/25) and Grey's Anatomy (Overnights: #1, 13.4/21; Viewers: #1, 19.65 million; A18-49: #1, 8.2/21) from 9-11 p.m., ABC won Sunday, beating the No. 2 network by an average of 43 percent in the overnights, 5.53 million viewers and 146 percent among adults 18-49.

Grey's Anatomy is an easy viewing, fluffy, grade B chick flick genre of programming filled with stereotypical characters:

> The hapless, and/or sexist men
> The generally more favorably drawn women
> The doe-eyed and idealistic Dr. Model

And stereotypical, "Awww....isn't that special" plot lines:

> Awww...isn't that special: The poor prostate cancer patient just can't bare to have his j.o. fantasy girl Dr. Model in the same room.

>Awww...isn't that special: Dr. Doe-eyed Model saves the prostate cancer patient from a life without an erection! How touching.

This stuff is extremely vaginal (The story line about making George buy their tampons....give me a break!) and pandering. Anyone who takes this show seriously needs to get out more. Too bad it's not on HBO, then at least we could watch Dr. Model prance around naked instead of just in her underwear!

Watched "Grey's Anatomy." Looks like "ER for DUMMIES."

yumm, katherine heigl is free to emasculate me by walking around in her undies all day. (anyway, if george (is that his name) doesn't want the women walking in while he showers, all he has to do is "accidentally" turn around and face them w/ an erection and that'll be the end of that.)

I like the show too. It's not anything original or groundbreaking, but it's appealing all the same. It'd be nice if they had a male intern that's neither a wimp nor a pig.

Sorry to see Boston Legal get bumped. But I wasn't too crazy about it anyway. Somehow I think the Alan Shore character works better on the Practice, where he's an antidote to all that liberal earnestness. Here there are too many jaded/cynical characters like himself.

ABC's Anatomy Still Growing)

By John Eggerton Broadcasting & Cable

ABC's decision to keep Grey's Anatomy in the Sunday, 10-p.m. Desperate Housewives lead-out slot continues to pay increasingly larger dividends.

ABC initially planned a limited run for the drama in Boston Legal's slot before returning that David Kelly drama to 10 p.m. for the May sweeps. Instead, it decided to put Boston Legal on the shelf until fall and Keep Grey's in the lineup. The result has been impressive ratings gains in the key 18-49 demo.

The medical drama scored an 8.1 rating/21 share Sunday night (up from a 7.7/19 the week before) for its best showing yet despite a smaller lead-in audience than the week before. It was the night's second-highest-rated show after Housewives, which averaged a 10.5/25, which was down from its 10.9/25 on April 10.

Originally posted by robnalex
Grey's Anatomy is an easy viewing, fluffy, grade B chick flick genre of programming filled with stereotypical characters:

> The hapless, and/or sexist men
> The generally more favorably drawn women
> The doe-eyed and idealistic Dr. Model

And stereotypical, "Awww....isn't that special" plot lines:

> Awww...isn't that special: The poor prostate cancer patient just can't bare to have his j.o. fantasy girl Dr. Model in the same room.

>Awww...isn't that special: Dr. Doe-eyed Model saves the prostate cancer patient from a life without an erection! How touching.

This stuff is extremely vaginal (The story line about making George buy their tampons....give me a break!) and pandering. Anyone who takes this show seriously needs to get out more. Too bad it's not on HBO, then at least we could watch Dr. Model prance around naked instead of just in her underwear!

Yes, what you said. I also agree with the person above who mentioned Ally McBeal. I think that 70% or more of the show is nothing but music playing over pictures. Stop it already.

You forgot to add the doe-eyed girl who falls for the hunky doctor.

Originally posted by barth2k
yumm, katherine heigl is free to emasculate me by walking around in her undies all day. (anyway, if george (is that his name) doesn't want the women walking in while he showers, all he has to do is "accidentally" turn around and face them w/ an erection and that'll be the end of that.)

I like the show too. It's not anything original or groundbreaking, but it's appealing all the same. It'd be nice if they had a male intern that's neither a wimp nor a pig.

The show is designed so that women can feel empowered when they watch. That is why all of this walking around in panties and having stereotypical pigs and wimps for men is played up heavily in this show. The thing I find funny is that the girls don't expect that guy to get an erection when he sees them in the panties and bra! ;) C'mon, if he watched around with a "straight arrow" they'd stop walking around half-naked with the male roommate is in the same room.

Originally posted by AFH
The show is designed so that women can feel empowered when they watch. That is why all of this walking around in panties and having stereotypical pigs and wimps for men is played up heavily in this show.
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So that's it! How could I have missed something so obvious. So then, if we continue to watch this show, we're volunteering ourselves for emasculation.

Actually, any guy who has had women for roommates, knows that the sex-appeal angle vanishes immediately. Or if it doesn't, it's because the woman is so substantially well-matched to you, that the sibling-taboo is overridden. Over a 6-year period, I had 29 housemates who were women. We had a large, 7-bedroom house near campus and I had trouble finding guys who wanted to move into this place. Surprisingly, only a few of them wanted any of these women as surrogate sisters, so only 7 lived there during that time. Finally, when one woman came along who developed a mutual interest with me, we vacated the place within a week, as privacy is required for such things. Believe me, more action will develop with just one woman, than if you're living with six of them.

I suspect the show is designed to offend overly macho viewers somehow.

- Tom (who likes empowered semi-naked women)

If so, trbarry, apparently the plan is working -- at least for those viewing this thread :)

We just watched last night's ep. I think the look and feel -- fwiw -- are simple and pleasant.

And I felt -- again -- that this was entertaining fare. It's not ER. It's not supposed to be. But it has sadness in the stories of the patients. Sweetness in the moments of triumph. Acting that isn't bad. It's a pleasant way to spend 45 minutes.

And it's yet another show I'd never, ever see without Tivo.

Just recorded this the other night and its a pretty good show.

Well, another season finale; Grey's anatomy; boy that seemed like a short season! Pretty good, I thought, and excellent pq as always. FWIW I asways liked Ally McBeal as well :D.

This show didn't quite have the feel of a season finale; though, but did have a sort-of surprise ending. Speaking of BL, I always thought it reminded me of Ally McBeal; and I liked it better than GA, but I'm glad both will be back next year. ABC sure has turned their programming around for me this year; Between DH, GA, BL, and Lost; all these are new this year and I like all of them. Still like Deadwood better, of course, but that's what HDTiVo is for http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/happy/045.gif

some of the syphillis scenes were funny, but def got too dramatic

For some reason I had a honeycombed pattern on the top half of my screen for the last 5 minutes. Who played the doctor's wife at the end? Was it anybody we should know?

I had that same honeycomb pattern, just assumed it was my dvr that crapped out, but maybe it was the network? I was watching on WABC HD via cablevision, you?

It was the east coast ABC feed from DirecTV for me.

We watched this before 24. My partner indicated that if TiVo had that over 24 I'd be in big trouble. Luckily it was confined to that recording. That was really annoying.

For some reason I had a honeycombed pattern on the top half of my screen for the last 5 minutes. Who played the doctor's wife at the end? Was it anybody we should know?

It was nobody we've seen before on the show, don't know who the actor is..

If the HD mpeg decoder that most ABC stations use to get the network HD feed hangs up you end up with the top half of the picture replaced by a regular grid pattern. The piece of equipment that does that is being replaced as part of a network wide upgrade. All stations in the Western time zone should have the new equipment now. The remainder of the country will be swapping their equipment out as the year progresses.

Rory @ KXTV
Sacramento

If the HD mpeg decoder that most ABC stations use to get the network HD feed hangs up you end up with the top half of the picture replaced by a regular grid pattern. The piece of equipment that does that is being replaced as part of a network wide upgrade. All stations in the Western time zone should have the new equipment now. The remainder of the country will be swapping their equipment out as the year progresses.

Rory @ KXTV
Sacramento


Thanks for the insider info... that's what I get for recording the east coast feed.

As much as I enjoyed the first season of this show it needs to pick up the action much more than the season premier to keep me hooked.

As much as I enjoyed the first season of this show it needs to pick up the action much more than the season premier to keep me hooked.

That's interesting. I actually thought this episode was more action packed than most episodes from first season -- very enjoyable.

As much as I enjoyed the first season of this show it needs to pick up the action much more than the season premier to keep me hooked.

Keep in mind that they produced a 14 episode Season 1 - but only aired 9 episodes. This wasn't meant to be a season opener.

Keep in mind that they produced a 14 episode Season 1 - but only aired 9 episodes. This wasn't meant to be a season opener.

Heck, if I ever knew that I forgot it. This makes the episode much more acceptable, I understand a letdown or two during a regular episode. However I expect some serious action and excitement on season premiers.

i noticed a shift in episode structure on this one

The last 2 weeks have been very good. Less fluff and more actual storyline. I'm really starting to like this show.

I think I liked it better last year; though I liked tonite better than last week. Great pq, though.

I didn't like this program when it first come on ... but I tried it again during the summer repeats and got hooked! I never miss it now.

(From Marc Berman’s Programming Insider column of Monday, October 10, 2005 at Mediaweek.com)

”…Desperate Housewives led into Sunday runner-up Grey’s Anatomy, with a 12.9/20 in the overnights, 18.45 million viewers and an 8.2/19 among adults 18-49 at 10 p.m. Although retention for Grey’s Anatomy out of Housewives was just 74 percent in the overnights, 72 percent in total viewers and 75 percent among adults 18-49, this is still a marked improvement over former time period occupant Boston Legal…”

I didn't like this program when it first come on ... but I tried it again during the summer repeats and got hooked! I never miss it now.
Agreed.
In the beginning, Bob, I think I was probably more jaded than you were. The past episode was very good and I am quickly changing my initial impression.

I think I liked it better last year; though I liked tonite better than last week. Great pq, though.


I agree. The pq of the opening sequence was great. I'm also glad that the music doesn't drown-out the scenes as it did in the first couple of episodes last season.

yea tonights episode was really good

I came across this show after trying to watch some episodes of DH. DH did not stick with me but I like this show. I watched almost all of last season (did not have a HD-DVR yet). Now thanks to Comcast HD-DVR I will not miss any episode this season. I really don't care if it is not that realisitc as long as it keeps me entertained. But it is interesting to see how doctors work life is like (even if it is not that realistic).

Ask Matt
(from the Ask (TV Critic) Matt (Roush) column at TVGuide.com

Question: Is it just me, or is Grey's Anatomy the third-best show on TV right now (behind Lost and Veronica Mars, of course)? This last episode, "Make Me Lose Control," was amazing, and Ellen Pompeo gave a terrific performance. I love how there are compelling stories for both the main characters and the patients in the episode, unlike the past-its-prime ER. What you think of the second season? To me it is way better than its lead-in, Desperate Housewives, or another one of my faves, Gilmore Girls (which has been under par this season). Why don't you mention it in your column more? It is a perennial Top 10 show. Oh, love the column, by the way. — Ethan

Matt Roush: Well, thanks. I'm also a bit surprised I don't get more questions/comments on Grey's Anatomy, because it's really hitting its stride these days. I was lukewarm on the show when it premiered late last season — the pilot episode overused the voice-over narration, which only exacerbated the "It's hard work being a doctor-in-training" clichés. But quickly the show and, more importantly, its many endearing characters, found their feet. Now I'm surprised to find myself enjoying it much more than the creatively uneven Desperate Housewives (more on that and Gilmore Girls later). I'm not sure I'd put Anatomy on my personal Top 10 list quite yet. It's very entertaining, and the Oct. 9 episode (with the discovery of Cristina's ectopic pregnancy and Meredith's infamous mom being admitted to the hospital) was so strong, it felt like sweeps. But it's not especially groundbreaking. The cast is terrific and terrifically diverse, and it's hard to imagine anyone not finding a favorite among the characters (mine is currently George). The chemistry is reminiscent of ER's glory days, when you felt a personal empathy or antipathy toward almost every character (not the ennui of today). The breezy, sexy tone is very appealing as well, and provides a wonderful way to end a Sunday night.

http://tvguide.com/tv/roush/askmatt/

Another really good show tonight. I am enjoying this more that DH this season.

Got it Tivo'd. Great show, one of my favorites, just not alot to talk about.

(From Marc Berman’s Monday, October 17, 2005 Programming Insider column at Mediaweek.com)

“…Blockbuster Desperate Housewives (Overnights: #1, 18.0/25; Viewers: #1, 25.51 million; A18-49: #1, 11.3/25) and compatible lead-out Grey’s Anatomy (Overnights: 13.3/20; Viewers: #1, 18.62 million; A18-49: #1, 8.6/21) capped off the evening at winning levels from 9-11 p.m…”

Here is what ABC is saying about last night's GA numbers in its daily ratings press release:

"..."Grey's Anatomy" (10:00-11:00 p.m.)
ABC's "Grey's Anatomy" delivered a commanding win in the 10 o'clock hour. In its time period, "Grey's Anatomy" defeated second-place NBC by 5.7 million viewers (18.5 million vs. 12.8 million) and topped its combined NBC and CBS competition by 30% in Adults 18-49 (8.2/19 vs. 6.3/15). ABC's second-year drama also topped the combined NBC and CBS Adult 25-54 delivery in the final hour of the evening by 16% (9.3/20 vs. 8.0/17)..."

Here is what ABC is saying about last night's GA numbers in its daily ratings press release:

"..."Grey's Anatomy" (10:00-11:00 p.m.)
ABC's "Grey's Anatomy" delivered a commanding win in the 10 o'clock hour. In its time period, "Grey's Anatomy" defeated second-place NBC by 5.7 million viewers (18.5 million vs. 12.8 million) and topped its combined NBC and CBS competition by 30% in Adults 18-49 (8.2/19 vs. 6.3/15). ABC's second-year drama also topped the combined NBC and CBS Adult 25-54 delivery in the final hour of the evening by 16% (9.3/20 vs. 8.0/17)..."

Looks like ABC's turned it around and it's coming back to lead the ratings in some time slots. I feel like I am getting more and more programming from that network than any of the others when I want to watch some drama or comedy. Actually, I only watch My name is earl outside of it and nothing on CBS or Fox. For sports is a little different though.

With Desperate Housewives and Lost ABC has the two best looking shows in HD. Can't watch the wives anymore. GA is another story, so far it's held together and they have done a nice job balancing all the characters.

I'm really enjoying it. The wife watched it all last season, but I admit I only saw the last 2 episodes frm that run. Now I'm really hooked. The almost ex-wife needs to go though ;). And man, how about the Chief having an afair with Grey's mother!

And man, how about the Chief having an afair with Grey's mother!

Yes, that was a nice turnaround but I somehow expected it.

Yeah, my wife was surprised but I wasn't. I thought that was revealed last season, but I guess it just seemed obvious to me based on the way the Chief talked about her.

I was a little suspicious, but I figured they were old friends and he was acting weird because of that, and because of what he'd just gone through. And because she was kind of creepy to be around ;). Note, I'm not making fun of anyone with alzheimers! It is just creepy, and reminds me of my own mortality which is something I like to avoid.

And man, how about the Chief having an afair with Grey's mother!

They gave some clues about this in past episodes so I had a hunch for it too but it was surprising no matter. I also was surprised on the last scene where Christina and ex-boyfriend (forgot name) gave up on pretending they did not care. It was nice to see the uptight Dr cuddle with her in her bed showing he also has some feelings.

They gave some clues about this in past episodes so I had a hunch for it too but it was surprising no matter. I also was surprised on the last scene where Christina and ex-boyfriend (forgot name) gave up on pretending they did not care. It was nice to see the uptight Dr cuddle with her in her bed showing he also has some feelings.

Uh, I must have missed those clues. Also, I must have missed where it clearly stated in Sunday's ep that he had an affair with Grey's mother, seeing as though I watched it last night for the first time.

It was good to see Christina cry. I thought that the Dr. getting into the bed with her and wrapping his leg around her was funny as hell.

I missed the clues and it was never stated that the chief and the elder Dr. Gray had an affair, but that kiss Sunday night, and the fact that he showed no initial resistance, leaves little doubt. But she does have Alzheimers so who knows?

I missed the clues and it was never stated that the chief and the elder Dr. Gray had an affair, but that kiss Sunday night, and the fact that he showed no initial resistance, leaves little doubt. But she does have Alzheimers so who knows?

I saw the kiss as a way of making her feel 'sane'. You'll notice how he pulled away from her after she kissed him. I think he returned the to make her feel better.

It's been pretty obvious up until last week where they made it crystal clear.

I don't know AFH. He seemed pretty into it at first, he only pulled back when he realized what he was doing. And for making her feel sane? She doesn't know there is something seriously wrong with her.

Another pretty good show tonight. A great mix of drama, comedy and romance.

As far as Alice Grey and the Chief goes, it was made even clearer tonight. She left Meredeth's father for the Chief and he did not leave his wife.

Agreed, it was another very well constructed show tonight.

In my mind, it is among the best written programs on TV in some years.

But we have only seen about 14 episodes so far; the trick is in keeping it fresh and compelling.

How come this show looks so dang fuzzy? :confused:

Wolfie

How come this show looks so dang fuzzy? :confused:

Wolfie

Agreed. Big difference when it went from DH (sharp looking show) to GA (helicopter shoot was horrid)

(From Marc Berman’s Monday, October 24, 2005 Programming Insider column at Mediaweek.com)

Not even game 2 of the Baseball World Series could stop the ABC Sunday juggernaut, with the power of Desperate Housewives (Overnights: #1, 17.5/24; Viewers: #1, 24.86 million; A18-49: #1, 10.9/24) and Grey’s Anatomy (Overnights: #1, 13.3/20; Viewers: #1, 18.41 million; A18-49; #1, 8.5/20) from 9-11 p.m. lifting the alphabet net to another victory in households, total viewers and adults 18-49.

Agreed. Big difference when it went from DH (sharp looking show) to GA (helicopter shoot was horrid)
Noticed it too, didn't look as good last night for some reason. The thought even crossed my mind at one point that it might have been an up-convert.

Agreed. It was as if I turned the Noise Reduction feature on my display to the MAX which creates a very soft non-detailed picture. Definitely a step down in PQ from the previous week’s program.

My only other complaint was that the dude that is having the confidence problems (due to his recent learning of his failure of his clinical boards?) was gowned up in the elevator and then a few seconds later, I could have sworn he was ventilating the patient with his gown off and just in scrubs, I think that’s just lazy editing by the guy in the dark little room.

Otherwise, I thought that the episode was very good.

...My only other complaint was that the dude that is having the confidence problems (due to his recent learning of his failure of his clinical boards?) ....

I don't think it was a confidence issue, I think he can't legally perform surgery until he passes his boards.

I don't think it was a confidence issue, I think he can't legally perform surgery until he passes his boards.
Well, if so, there are alot of 4th year med students performing surgery out there that are breakin dee law everyday. :eek:

They may not be clamping the aorta or suturing CABG’s but they’re sure as hell cutting into a bunch of stuff. :)

I'm proud of Grey's they won the last Sunday nights ratings
I really wasnt into the show until like the 3 episode...

Thoughts!?

Daily ratings are always posted in the second post in this thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=440744

And if you check the last posts (and move backward) you'll find many recent reports on the surge of "Grey's Anatomy" -- including a confession by TV Guide critic Matt Roush (who was unimpressed last season) that the show is now one his his favorites.

I watched it last night for the first time and thought it was very good. I might just add it to my season pass list.

I'm surprised Roush didn't mentioned the symbolism of Meredith holding a real broken heart of a woman who was left to die while she, herself, was experiencing the same emotionally.

There's some good writing on this show, a definite keeper and far better than DH this season.

I thought this week's GA was one of the worst ever. Absurd story line. By far the worst episode of the year, if not the series.

That is one of the beauties of TV, Karyk, one person's trash is another's treasure.

In this particular case, I agree with keenan: I thought the episode was one of the best-written (and acted) I've seen on network TV in years.

It didn't bother you that they somehow couldn't cut a pipe until after one person was off it? Or that one of those people could be transported to the hospital sitting up with a pipe through her spine? Or that she could be so transported and not realize she could not move her legs? Or that a doctor would sit over one patient doing nothing but waiting for a foot to be found, while there were other critical patients? Or that an intern would think her carreer would be threatened just because she couldn't find a foot from a crash scene? Or that a person could die from an accident without having any symptoms?

It's like they just wanted to create one outragious situation after another purely for shock value, while amost entirely ignoring the story plot they'd developed from prior episodes.

I agree with just about everything you noted, Karyk.

But as with "24", "Prison Break", "The West Wing", "Alias" and a host of "CSI"s and "Law and Order"s (where DNA gets processed in mere moments and trials seem to start the week after the arrest!) I suspend my disbelief during many, many TV shows.

Again, it isn't really important to anything. Differences of opinion are what make life interesting.

We had vastly different takes on one particular network TV episode. So what? It isn't like I was defending cable and you were defending Dish or DirecTV! :)

It didn't bother you that they somehow couldn't cut a pipe until after one person was off it? Or that one of those people could be transported to the hospital sitting up with a pipe through her spine? Or that she could be so transported and not realize she could not move her legs? Or that a doctor would sit over one patient doing nothing but waiting for a foot to be found, while there were other critical patients? Or that an intern would think her carreer would be threatened just because she couldn't find a foot from a crash scene? Or that a person could die from an accident without having any symptoms?

It's like they just wanted to create one outragious situation after another purely for shock value, while amost entirely ignoring the story plot they'd developed from prior episodes.


I agree somewhat. Watching this episode this morning for the first time, I think that the writers were trying to add some levity to a very serious situation. By having Merideth hold on to the lady's heart while the other doctors went to help the other patient, was a good play on how her heart was broken and the same ER doc that walked away from the patient walked away from her.

Good episode!

It didn't bother you that they somehow couldn't cut a pipe until after one person was off it? Or that one of those people could be transported to the hospital sitting up with a pipe through her spine? Or that she could be so transported and not realize she could not move her legs? Or that a doctor would sit over one patient doing nothing but waiting for a foot to be found, while there were other critical patients? Or that an intern would think her carreer would be threatened just because she couldn't find a foot from a crash scene? Or that a person could die from an accident without having any symptoms?

It's like they just wanted to create one outragious situation after another purely for shock value, while amost entirely ignoring the story plot they'd developed from prior episodes.
While certainly many of those things were out of the ordinary they were basically plot devices to move along the stories of the doctors. After all, this show is about the doctors, not the patients.

I do think Meredith's narrative tends to run on a bit at times, I find myself losing interest in what she is saying while watching what's happening on the screen.

1.It didn't bother you that they somehow couldn't cut a pipe until after one person was off it?
2.Or that one of those people could be transported to the hospital sitting up with a pipe through her spine?
3.Or that she could be so transported and not realize she could not move her legs?
4.Or that a doctor would sit over one patient doing nothing but waiting for a foot to be found, while there were other critical patients?
5.Or that an intern would think her carreer would be threatened just because she couldn't find a foot from a crash scene?
6.Or that a person could die from an accident without having any symptoms?

1. Yes ( a little) but, I think they could have tightened up the realism a bit if they showed these two people drifting in and out of pain as the Morphine wore off and I believe they could have shown some/more oozing of blood from the penetration sites without slowing down the pace of the show.
2. No
3. No
4. No, as he was apparently debriding the stump for preparation of a re-attachment. (actually, I think it was a lower leg)
5. No, recently post ectopic pregnancy, doing a second shift on no sleep, Type A personality = Paranoid :eek: surgical intern.
6. Yup, but that's what happens to people that are rude with their cell phones. :p

I really like the form of your post though (highlight to read)
I wish I knew how to do that. :)

I feel sad for Meredith because I question the long-term commitment of the estranged (well, I guess arm-in-arm out the front door means…ex-estranged) wife. :(

Perhaps the writer/s are setting us up for a series of episodes where she again strays away from home ?

I’m happy though for the young budding surgeon that has the hots for the ex-model as he
appears to slowly be getting his mojo back. :)

What I would really like to see are a few shows of House and his fellows dueling with the Surgical interns of Grey’s over some issues in and out of the hospital.

Especially a lucid Meredith’s mother taking on House on whether to cut or not to cut.

I think that would be great fun…..too bad they’re on different networks.

I really like the form of your post though (highlight to read)
I wish I knew how to do that. :)

You can use the spoiler tag

[spoiler] [ /spoiler]

remove the space between the bracket and the "/"

I’m happy though for the young budding surgeon that has the hots for the ex-model as he
appears to slowly be getting his mojo back. :)
You mean by getting a "leg up" on Yang? :D

6. Yup, but that's what happens to people that are rude with their cell phones. :p


I don't have any problem buying that, she had internal bleeding and was in shock. She appeared fine so was not examined. But yes, being rude on a cell phone can also do that to a person. :p

You mean by getting a "leg up" on Yang? :D
LOL, thanks, you made my day ! :D

PDPnNJ - thanks to you also for the info.

I just wish they would stop desaturating the colors and reduce the grain. I thought they were just trying to be "moody" last week with all the rain and image manipulations, but this seems to be the new "look" for the show.

I just wish they would stop desaturating the colors and reduce the grain. I thought they were just trying to be "moody" last week with all the rain and image manipulations, but this seems to be the new "look" for the show.


I agree. The show has taken on a mirky uprez look. Oh...it's so artistic to have things bleached out and fuzzy ;)

Still, the show is one of the best otherwise.

As a footnote to posts #158 and #160, I sincerely apologize to any amputees out there that may be reading this thread in regards to any insensitivity or callousness that we may have inadvertently displayed.

This……… especially given the fact of the skyrocketing of that physically challenged population due to the war in Iraq.

The humor in this discussion (and the episode itself for the matter, although I don’t speak for the producers) was obviously not directed to the potential loss of an extremity due to traumatic causes but, to the frantic actions and thought processes of a surgical intern portrayed in a TV show.

You guys and gals(whatever the etiology of the amputation) have our thoughts and prayers.
Penton

Nice post, thanks.

IWe had vastly different takes on one particular network TV episode. So what? It isn't like I was defending cable and you were defending Dish or DirecTV! :)

I was defending DirecTV? I thought you were putting down cable! :D

I watch this show because my wife watches the show. I just wish it would be a bit less like ER (actually nothing like ER). I've actually really liked some episodes this year, but this last one wasn't one of them.

I do think Meredith's narrative tends to run on a bit at times, I find myself losing interest in what she is saying while watching what's happening on the screen.

Actually, for me this sometimes helps pull the thing together for me. Sometimes not, however. For example, the thing with "McDreamy" starting to cry on the elevator was a bit over the top for me. Without the commentary that would have left me scratching my head. With it I just thought the scene was stupid.

You can use the spoiler tag

[spoiler] [ /spoiler]

remove the space between the bracket and the "/"

And btw, since you're (the person who asked) obviously not familiar with it the purpose of these "spoilers" is to allow people to read these threads before they've watched the episode. With DVRs many people have not seen something when the thread is being discussed.

I didn't do that with the "McDreamy crying" comment because that wasn't really a major plot point. Hopefully I won't ruin anyone's experience watching the show! ;)

If you haven't seen the show, it's best to avoid these discussion threads until you've watched the most recently aired episode. If we used spoiler tags until everyone has watched an episode off their DVR, we'd have to spoilerize everything.

And btw, since you're (the person who asked) obviously not familiar with it the purpose of these "spoilers" is to allow people to read these threads before they've watched the episode. With DVRs many people have not seen something when the thread is being discussed.

He wasn't.......I am.
The "purpose" was evident........The mechanics of this posting nuance were not to this poor postingly (literary license applied) challenged soul. :)

If you haven't seen the show, it's best to avoid these discussion threads until you've watched the most recently aired episode. If we used spoiler tags until everyone has watched an episode off their DVR, we'd have to spoilerize everything.
No offence to Karyk but, I’ve gotta agree with you.

For example, the thing with "McDreamy" starting to cry on the elevator was a bit over the top for me. Without the commentary that would have left me scratching my head. With it I just thought the scene was stupid.

Maybe I read that part wrong but, my guess was that……. recently discarding what may have been the love of his life….shortly followed by having to inform the family that he lost a very likable patient under his watch in the O.R. (which re-enforced or accentuated the former) caused a brief emotional exhibition in the elevator.

The Chief Resident handled it with class. :)

No offence to Karyk but, I’ve gotta agree with you.

Well, I agree it's safer not to read until you've watched. That tends to be my practice. But if I'm going to discuss major plot issues I tend to use spoilers. Spoilers are good because they prevent laters posts asking why there's no warning about spoilers! :D

But that begs the question, when is it acceptable to STOP using them?
Hell, if you've got to wait until the next episode,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,we're all going to be going blind by all that white light on the screen if we're slow to highlight! :eek:

Hell, if you've got to wait until the next episode,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,we're all going to be going blind by all that white light on the screen if we're slow to highlight! :eek:

Well, obviously someone hasn't discovered alternative forum skins, like AVS White. The default was is pretty bad--I didn't know it was even possible to get used to it with time. ;)

Once I got used to AVS Dark Theater - anything else just seems wrong. :)

Well, obviously someone hasn't discovered alternative forum skins
Lol, LOL, thank God for that......because it’s obvious (to me) that if I had discovered such a thing....I wouldn't be in the real-world position I am today ! ;)

Well, the picture quality this week was better than the previous two weeks. I hope they'll stick with it, I can live with how it looked last night.

Did anyone notice there was a line attatched to the left leg of the pigeonat the beginning of the show?

For those of you who are crying about spoilers of things that have already been aired by the time it was posted. I say Get a Grip.

If it's been aired it's NOT a spoiler period. If you've DVR'd it it's your responsibility to either 1.) Not read the threads 2.) Look at the date tag on the thread first and if it's after the show has been aired, take it upon yourself to NOT read the thing.

I personally take the second tact as I DVR everything, but I read threads sometimes before I have watched all the episodes.

I don't want people tagging things as spoilers unless they're actually a spoiler. I'll end up not reading it ever because I don't read spoilers, and you don't know when it's no longer a spoiler until you read the thing.

-CCourtney

For those of you who are crying about spoilers of things that have already been aired by the time it was posted. I say Get a Grip.

If it's been aired it's NOT a spoiler period. If you've DVR'd it it's your responsibility to either 1.) Not read the threads 2.) Look at the date tag on the thread first and if it's after the show has been aired, take it upon yourself to NOT read the thing.

I personally take the second tact as I DVR everything, but I read threads sometimes before I have watched all the episodes.

I don't want people tagging things as spoilers unless they're actually a spoiler. I'll end up not reading it ever because I don't read spoilers, and you don't know when it's no longer a spoiler until you read the thing.

-CCourtney
Hey I’m with you dude.

I think that if one chooses to use spoilers it should be done when one is voicing a diametrically opposed view in contrast to the vast majority consensus of opinion.

That way one could either be graciously sparing everyonelse the momentary agony or accentuating their opposition is a funky way. Hey, either way works for me. :)

Otherwise, it seems to come down to the Dustin Hoffman’s infamous dentist asking the question….”Is it Safe?”. :eek:

The only caveat I would add to your statement is to wait until its been aired on P.S.T.(no disrespect to our friends in Hawaii, hell, you people live in paradise anyway :D )

In regards to the last episode, personally I found it to be rather slow in tempo because the major plot line was tooooooo realistic……i.e. patient with positive genetic markers deals with the decision of prophylactic surgery with an opposing spouse.

For me, I like to suspend my disbelief at least for an hour while watching TV. Funny how real-life stuff makes TV boring, at least for me.

I liked the other minor plot lines much more.

PST isn't factored in. If it airs, it's fair game. If you're EST, wait until 11pm EST to look in the thread - if you're PST, wait until 11pm PST.

"One day for us to be normal" :)

"Happy Thanksgivin" :D

Funnier than normal episode... maybe it's all the penile jokes.

And there was a great shot of Izzie (Katherine Heigl) getting dressed after not making it with Alex (because of his "problem"). Let's just say based on their motion, they look real and they look spectacular.

Great, great episode. While DH sags, GA seems to continue to advance nicely.

Alex has got to be one very disturbed dude, or gay (not that there's anything wrong with that). If a woman like Izzie was hot for me, my "systems" would be in a state of full turbo alert, and not because of a medical condition as with Grey's one night stand patient.

I haven't checked to see who writes this show, but some or all of the writers must be women given the fondness for penis humor. In order to keep things balanced I think it's time for some vagina jokes.

Given the fact that over the years 95+% of all prime time TV has been written by men, I think we can probably deal with a little "imbalance" in one show. :)

And the ratings seem to indicate people like "Grey's" just as it is.

I haven't checked to see who writes this show, but some or all of the writers must be women given the fondness for penis humor. In order to keep things balanced I think it's time for some vagina jokes.

Last week it was even more obvious that all the writers are women when they were bloviating about how men would never have their testicles removed if they had cancer while ignoring the obvious examples of Lance Armstrong and the huge numbers of men that have prophylactic surgery every day as part of the treatment for prostrate cancer.

"Grey's Anatomy" creator Shonda Rhimes writes many of the episodes and meticulously oversees all writing on the show that she herself doesn't do.

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, but I could do without most or all of the constant narration. It adds nothing to the story line and is usually just stating the obvious.

And the ratings seem to indicate people like "Grey's" just as it is.Ratings only indicate how many people watched, and many of those people, like myself, may have valid criticisms of the show.

True, robnalex. But week by week more people are watching "Grey's Anatomy".

Frankly, I would assume many people have valid criticisms of almost any show they watch.

I don't know if anyone else has mentioned this, but I could do without most or all of the constant narration. It adds nothing to the story line and is usually just stating the obvious.
I don't mind the narrations. But so far none of them have equaled the quality from the first episode. The one that went something like "They make it hard on purpose ... etc.... I could walk away, but here's the thing, I love the playing field." The song that was playing, the visuals, and the narration all combined beautifully, but they haven't been able to match that since.

Who woulda thunk it? How unusual- a network series that actually seems to be improving!

Tonight's episode, IMHO, was a masterful piece of work on all fronts: writing, directing, acting. Beautiful, nuanced, subtle performances from every actor in the ensemble.

Favorite dialogue from tonight:

What's His Name: "Why would you want to help me after what I've done?"

Izzie: "BECAUSE IT'S WHAT JESUS WOULD HAVE FREAKIN DONE!"

Who woulda thunk it? How unusual- a network series that actually seems to be improving!

Tonight's episode, IMHO, was a masterful piece of work on all fronts: writing, directing, acting. Beautiful, nuanced, subtle performances from every actor in the ensemble.

Favorite dialogue from tonight:

What's His Name: "Why would you want to help me after what I've done?"

Izzie: "BECAUSE IT'S WHAT JESUS WOULD HAVE FREAKIN DONE!"
Yeah, my wife and I both laughed out loud on that one.

This show does seem to get better as it goes along. Starting to get some good character development and the weekly patient stories are definitely interesting. That's something ER used to do really well but they are very weak on these days.


So, my list of "must see TV' shows is up to 5.

House
Lost
Grey's Anatomy
Medium
Veronica Mars

I watch many other shows, but these are the ones at the top of my season pass list.

Who woulda thunk it? How unusual- a network series that actually seems to be improving!

Tonight's episode, IMHO, was a masterful piece of work on all fronts: writing, directing, acting. Beautiful, nuanced, subtle performances from every actor in the ensemble.

Favorite dialogue from tonight:

What's His Name: "Why would you want to help me after what I've done?"

Izzie: "BECAUSE IT'S WHAT JESUS WOULD HAVE FREAKIN DONE!"

Yea I agree. From the same scene I also liked when Izzie told him she was a farmer and didn't know him when they were playing the Dr patient thing for his practice to retake the board exam

Let's hope it continues to stay beneath the media glare that seemed to consume "Desperate Housewives" from the middle of last season on.

I thought last night's episode was great, too -- the ending leaving us with a number of plot twists to ponder until the show returns with original episodes in January.

Shonda Rhimes, who created and oversees every aspect the show, hopefully will continue to do that with the care she has shown so far, and not get side-tracked by development deals for other shows. (See J.J. Abrams with "Alias" for an example fo what can go wrong.)

By the way, speaking of shows which have steadily improved.

"Related" (9 PM ET/PT Mondays) on the WB started off as a pale, poorly-written, shallow, PG-rated version of "Sex In The City". Critics generally savaged it., And rightly so.

But the writing has improved dramatically, and one of the recent episodes (with Dana Delany seen in flashbacks as the mother of the four sisters) was one of the best-written shows of episodic TV I have seen in years.

It has made my top-five list in recent weeks. And with a meaningless NFL game tonight, and repeats (I believe) on the other networks, at least record it. Give it a try, I think you'll enjoy it.

(And if you don't, I am pretty sure the wife/SO and/or daughters will.)

Finally a new episode, was very good, though I wish HD PQ was as good as in CSI: Miami, that was just amazing (just saw it for the first time recently).

I can't believe no one is discussing the latest episode, it was absolutely amazing, the best I've seen yet.

Did anyone see the spoof on Mad TV 2 weeks ago?

I can't believe no one is discussing the latest episode, it was absolutely amazing, the best I've seen yet.

Yeah, this was a superb episode. I'm just disappointed that they have Meredith's hand on the bomb now; in my mind it destroys the possibility of it actually exploding, as I don't think they have the fortitude to kill her off. She's central to the show, but I think the writers made a big blunder here by insisting that she be the star of this subplot.

Excellent episode, I was on the edge of my seat!

I laughed when the anesteigiologist showed the EMT how to use the air bulb and then just took off!

very good how they did the pregnancy/ husband accident at the same time as the bomb scare..very intense

scott

Random thoughts: Christina Ricci is still a cutie, it's good to see the Early Edition guy back on tv, it's one of the cleanest & neatest hospital on tv, and why do they seldom use eye protection in surgery on this show?

I'm just disappointed that they have Meredith's hand on the bomb now; in my mind it destroys the possibility of it actually exploding, as I don't think they have the fortitude to kill her off. She's central to the show...
They could always change the name of the show to "Izzy's Anatomy" ;) I don't think too many people would mind. :D

Esp. since many people have never even heard of the book entitled ..........

"Gray's Anatomy". ;)

I hesitate to comment as I was VUI (Viewing Under the Influence) due to the prior programming and I may not be objective at all.

But I’ll throw this out anyway.

I thought that the episode was rather disjointed and just didn’t seem to flow well. I think this show has had far better previous episodes. Perhaps my expectations were just too lofty given all the prior advertisement for this episode or perhaps like I said, VUI.

I do hope that Grey’s picked up some new viewers though.

I liked the episode until the very end, I mean if the "bomb" can withstand one hand being yanked out and another being shoved in, how sensitive can it be!

Yeah, this was a superb episode. I'm just disappointed that they have Meredith's hand on the bomb now; in my mind it destroys the possibility of it actually exploding, as I don't think they have the fortitude to kill her off. She's central to the show, but I think the writers made a big blunder here by insisting that she be the star of this subplot.
Like my wife pointed out, the reason why Meredith is holding the bomb is because when McDreamy finds out she is holding it, he will realize that he can't live without her and finally divorce his wife. Very plausible, IMHO.

Although I had some issues with the episode (why weren't the bomb squad wearing protective gear?), I thought it was a good episode. Nice juxtaposition of Bailey and her husband...

So, are they going to pay REM for the titles of the episodes?

This weeks was "It's the end of the world" and next weeks is "As we know it".

LOL

I really enjoyed the episode last night. Bailey has been missed, and seeing her last night was great...even if she was just in shambles after hearing about her husband. That would just royally suck!

Although I had some issues with the episode (why weren't the bomb squad wearing protective gear?), I thought it was a good episode. Nice juxtaposition of Bailey and her husband...
I saw that coming, BTW :)

Anyone know is they are rebroadcasting this episode before next week's conclusion ?

Dave B

Anyone know is they are rebroadcasting this episode before next week's conclusion ?

Dave B
If they do it might be on Saturday, but I wouldn't count on it. Is Grey's one of the shows that can be downloaded from iTunes...?

If they do it might be on Saturday, but I wouldn't count on it. Is Grey's one of the shows that can be downloaded from iTunes...?
I checked, and it's not on there...

So, are they going to pay REM for the titles of the episodes?

This weeks was "It's the end of the world" and next weeks is "As we know it".

I think all the episode names have been song names. It's probably one of the quirks of the show... like in Wonderfalls, the episode names were always the name of one of the talking animals/things.

I liked the episode until the very end, I mean if the "bomb" can withstand one hand being yanked out and another being shoved in, how sensitive can it be!

That's the same thing I thought! You'd think Meredith would have had a better chance just taking her chances than reaching in their and grabbing it herself. Other than that I thought it was pretty good, though not really up to some of the hype ABC was promoting it with.

Color me underwhelmed by the Code Black concept in this episode. The ABC hype would have you believe something extraordinary would have happened, e.g., Ebola or other nasty infectious disease causing the hospital to close down, or possible hostage situation. But a bone-headed battle re-enactent accident like this one? Puhlease!

The hype was unnecessary and we'll probably see a huge ratings dive next Sunday night for this show.

That's the same thing I thought! You'd think Meredith would have had a better chance just taking her chances than reaching in their and grabbing it herself.

I don't think she was concerned with stabilizing the ordinance - just getting her hand in there to stop the bleeder.

They should now know that the hand has no impact on the explosive, no trigger is/was being depressed, etc. It is still inherently unstable, but the hand isn't what's keeping it from exploding.

we'll probably see a huge ratings dive next Sunday night for this show.

That's a given. They picked up 15 million extra viewers in their post-(glorious ;) )SB XL time slot that won't be there next week. The key is how does the first episode after the 2nd part (Some SB viewers may watch to catch the 2nd part out of curiosity) fares vs. the pre-SB audience.

Color me underwhelmed by the Code Black concept in this episode. The ABC hype would have you believe something extraordinary would have happened, e.g., Ebola or other nasty infectious disease causing the hospital to close down, or possible hostage situation. But a bone-headed battle re-enactent accident like this one? Puhlease!

The hype was unnecessary and we'll probably see a huge ratings dive next Sunday night for this show.

The whole episode seemed like a rather blatant attempt to gain viewers (e.g. the shower scene at the beginning), almost as if the show were in trouble (which I haven't heard that it is).

I almost wonder whether they'd turn off more existing viewers than gain new ones?

Three naked women in the shower will always gain viewers. ;)

I don't think she was concerned with stabilizing the ordinance - just getting her hand in there to stop the bleeder.

They should now know that the hand has no impact on the explosive, no trigger is/was being depressed, etc. It is still inherently unstable, but the hand isn't what's keeping it from exploding.

Unfortunately it looks like they're still pretending that the hand is stabilizing the ordnance, which is gonna require quite a bit of suspension of disbelief.

Three naked women in the shower will always gain viewers. ;)

I'd always assumed it was largely a female audience. I know if it wasn't for my wife watching it, I wouldn't watch it.

Three naked women in the shower will always gain viewers. ;)You can also bet it stopped millions of football fans from switching channels.. :D

Unfortunately it looks like they're still pretending that the hand is stabilizing the ordnance, which is gonna require quite a bit of suspension of disbelief.

I think it's more they don't know what will set it off, because it was homemade. But rather obviously, to save the guy's life, she'd have to stay there now.

BTW, why haven't they arrested the accomplice? I'd have thought that would have been one of the first things to happen.

I think it's more they don't know what will set it off, because it was homemade. But rather obviously, to save the guy's life, she'd have to stay there now.

BTW, why haven't they arrested the accomplice? I'd have thought that would have been one of the first things to happen.And bitch slap his annoying wife..

They ought to arrest that anesthesiologist. Not sure what charge, but make one up if they have to. At a minimum, he should lose his license.

They ought to arrest that anesthesiologist. Not sure what charge, but make one up if they have to. At a minimum, he should lose his license.
Charge him for being a sissy girl. Was he told to leave when the code black was first given? Or was he one of the important ones that had to stay?

But I do agree, way overhyped. I already like this show, a can't miss, but I was expecting something extra-ordinary to happen.

Charge him for being a sissy girl. Was he told to leave when the code black was first given? Or was he one of the important ones that had to stay?


How many of you with a family would do the same thing and get the heck out of there? I'm sure he thought he had plenty to live for vs keeping some guy alive who was probably going to die anyway, and also getting himself killed in the process.

I think it would be hard to suspend someone's license because of a situation like that.

I thought the epsiode was very suspenseful. I watched it again yesterday because we had people over for Superbowl and I couldn't hear all the dialog. I completely missed the part where they explained to Alex how the ammunition got lodged inside the body. Dr Bailey and her predicament was gripping too.

p.s. If Izzy wants to take charge and become a "do-er", my hand is in the air!

I think it would be hard to suspend someone's license because of a situation like that.

Are you serious? Letting a paramedic on the job for a couple weeks do your job for you?

He should have made his objection known when everyone else left, they could have found someone else. But putting the life of his patient in the hands (one remaining hand) of that girl with no training should easily be grounds for him never to step foot in an operating room again.

As far as those of us with families, I would hope that the fact we have families is precisely why we would not abandon that young girl and callously tell her that our life is more important than her's.

that young girl .


A dark haired (again) Christina Ricci (age 26 on 2-12-2006)

What age do girls become expendable?

What age do girls become expendable?

I was only pointing out who the actress was and how she played the character younger than her age. Her eyes and the emotion they portray are two of her greatest assets.

two of her four greatest.

Agreed

The whole episode seemed like a rather blatant attempt to gain viewers (e.g. the shower scene at the beginning), almost as if the show were in trouble (which I haven't heard that it is).

I almost wonder whether they'd turn off more existing viewers than gain new ones?

The shower scene was rather unnecessary. It started out well with just the tall blonde, but when they added the asian chick....blech! Even so, the scene was neither important nor done very well anyway. I'm pretty sure that I'm not tuning in next Sunday!

The shower scene was rather unnecessary. It started out well with just the tall blonde, but when they added the asian chick....blech! Even so, the scene was neither important nor done very well anyway. I'm pretty sure that I'm not tuning in next Sunday!
Good riddance...

The shower scene was rather unnecessary. It started out well with just the tall blonde, but when they added the asian chick....blech!


Blech? That's when it started to get good, but since I knew it wouldn't go anywhere it just seemed like a stupid ploy to me.

By John Eggerton -- Broadcasting & Cable

Drama Grey's Anatomy, which aired after Super Bowl XL--starting at 10:27--drew 38.1 million viewers. That is the best numbers for the series ever by quite a few million eyeballs (it's previous high was last year's season finale on May 22, which garnered a numerologist-friendly 22.2 million.


That was also the best performance for a post-Super Bowl entertainment show since the premiere of the second season of Survivor on CBS five years ago.

It is the best series performance on any network since the last episode of Friends on NBC, the best performance by an ABC series since a Home Improvement episode March 30, 1994.


The above information was provided by the happy researchers at ABC.

Well the fact that it was the highest rated superbowl in 10 years probably helped those numbers a bit.

TV Notebook
'Grey's Anatomy' Post-Super Bowl Episode Gets Thursday Encore

By Christopher Lisotta TVWeek.com February 7, 2006

The post-Super Bowl episode of medical drama "Grey's Anatomy" will be repeated Thursday, Feb. 9, at 9:30 p.m. (ET), pre-empting an episode of the midseason comedy "Crumbs" and shortening ABC News' 10 p.m. newsmagazine "Primetime" by a half-hour.

On its Feb. 5 airing, "Grey's" posted the series' highest-ever numbers in total viewers (37.9 million) and in the adults 18 to 49 demographic (16.5), according to Nielsen Media Research. It was the highest-rated non-sports event so far of the current TV season.

The pre-empted episode of "Crumbs" is scheduled to air Feb. 16.

http://www.tvweek.com/news.cms?newsId=9353

What age do girls become expendable?
When they start driving. Teenage females have got to be the worst drivers on the road. :D

A friend recently informed me that Derrick the Doc is an avid auto racer, and competes at an elite level compared to most wannabees (GrandAm series @ Daytona).

The shower scene was rather unnecessary. It started out well with just the tall blonde, but when they added the asian chick....blech! Even so, the scene was neither important nor done very well anyway. I'm pretty sure that I'm not tuning in next Sunday!
Whether one looks at it as very contrived or not, I think is WAS absolutely needed to keep the Super Bowl crowd tuned in.

(Just remember the mindset (a few Buds with some piazza and chips), and the age and gender of the Super Bowl viewers that watched the whole game to the end.)

I’ve really gotten to like Grey’s Anatomy but, to those that truly enjoyed this episode, sorry but, I just think the writers underachieved on this one. I think they could have done so much more given the opportunity of the slot following the Super Bowl.

Honestly, I think the writers got a little lazy and could have tightened everything up a bit to perhaps get people to tune in for following episode. I was really expecting something on the order of the lecture House gave to the med students given all the hype that preceded this episode.

For example, whoever mentioned the bomb guys being without body amour……………………………
CORRECT-
What the heck, they surmised that this was an unstable unexploded missile and they walk on the floor and into the O.R. without all the padding and such that you see the bomb squad normally wear….all the time telling everyone to get out immediately ?

Even if one completely gives Hollywood a pass as to the credibility of a patient on the O.R. table with a chest wound from a LARGE penetrating projectile without showing massive bleeding all over the patient and floor (which I was willing to do),

I think that the magical slight of hand between the E.M.T. and Grey should have been preceded by at least visually showing an arterial blood spray (ala ……….what was it? Black Hawk Down when they were trying to suture a bleeder in some soldier’s leg).

Rather than showing an O.R. version of Musical Chairs.

I mean if you can show that shower scene at the beginning without exciting the censors, why can’t you add a tad more realism to the chest trauma scene?

I just think this post Super Bowl episode could have been much better with not much more effort on the part of the writers.

I’m hoping that the follow-up show next week is more akin to the writing that I’ve come to expect with previous episodes.

Any leeway they can get from the censors would be better applied to the shower scene than the blood in the OR. :)

This episode was shown at 7:30pm in the West coast... that's family hour. I thought they already got away with a little bit with the shower scene and strip scene with Alex and Izzie.

For example, whoever mentioned the bomb guys being without body amour……………………………
CORRECT-
What the heck, they surmised that this was an unstable unexploded missile and they walk on the floor and into the O.R. without all the padding and such that you see the bomb squad normally wear….all the time telling everyone to get out immediately ?

I'd wondered about the lack of head protection, especially for the paramedic and other doctors in the room.