Originally posted by John Mason
NYC's TWC figured out how to get the 2nd game to Mahattan and Queens, etc., today instead of only Staten Island. Reasonably good fidelity here. Surprised to see YES delivering 1080i blimp shots of the stadium when I'm so used to the toy-camera SD images from blimps. Kudos to YES Network. -- John
the blimp shots are way cool in HD!

Originally posted by Lewbie
I called D* and they told me a different story. I have EI and HD pkg. Today I got EI and 622 (YES Network SD). On 94, it said the game would be on but at the appointed time the screen told me I was not authorized for the broadcast even though I had access via the other 2 stations.

I can understand total blackout, but not getting only SD. After 40 minutes of asking my question and being on hold, the reply was, "we only broadcast the YES HD feed in the NY area, not out of area." The rep said that I could write to corporate if I wanted--awfully nice of him, no?

I'll call YES on Wed.

So basically he told you what you already know. I take it he didn't give you a reason? Not that any DirecTV rep would know.

Originally posted by shadowbox
Who knows why the MLB isn't allowing it. All I'm saying is D* has no control over it. If they could show YES-HD out of market to EI customers or anyone else, don't you think they would? There has never been one piece of marketing for MLB-EI that said anything about HD. This is the same thing as Minnesota customers getting Timberwolf games in HD while it was blacked out everywhere else. Even to those that had NBA Season Pass.

You never know, it may be that it would be unfair to other RSNs that broadcast HD. Maybe FSN-HD, ComcastSports-HD, Turner South-HD, NESN-HD and others would all like to have their HD channels available nationwide. I don't think D* has the bandwidth for that. Maybe part of the deal with D* and YES is that it can't be shown out of market, even with EI.

The NFL Sunday Ticket is a different story because RSNs aren't involved. And there are way more baseball games. NFL has what, 16 games per week? MLB has about 10-15 games per day. And a good portion of them have HD coverage now.

I doubt it is MLB that isn't allowing it. What would be the reason? More likley Yes wants extra $$$ for national HD coverage.

one possibility i can think of why DIRECTV would want to limit you out of market folks is perhaps onces the spaceways go up they plan to put the RSN's up on the local spot beams until 2007 when they get the next genreation with all the national capability. If they think they will be putting YES HD fulltime on a NYC spot, maybe they are afraid of pissing you off later by taking away something that you did get.

Comepletely a guess.

And personally I think Directv-8 and the spaceways will have enough national room for every HD national channel in existance currently plus every HD-RSN- but what i think means nothing.

Originally posted by shadowbox
I'm not saying it makes sense. But it seems to be true doesn't it? Do you really think D* could show YES-HD nationwide if they wanted to. Are they not showing it just to p*** people off? And do you think YES would want to blackout their games out of market if they didn't have to? There are Yankee fans all over the country, I'm sure if they could show it they would. The ball is completely in MLB's court...er...I mean field. :)

I just think YES wants additional $$$ to allow nationwide coverage of its HD broadcasts. Why would MLB care since the games are being shown in SD anyway (no blackout issues involved).

I think DirecTV just sat down with YES-HD and hammered out an agreement allowing YES to show the Yankees games in the New York DMA, giving DirecTV a competitive advantage with cable in the area. This was the scope of the contract.

Originally posted by Oldfred
Here's a new and unsettling twist.

I called my local D* provider. She couldn't tell me why I couldn't get the YES HD feed but she gave me a number to call at MLB.

So, I called MLB and the customer rep told me that not only shouldn't I be getting the HD feed, I should not be getting the SD feed on channel 622! Once I recovered, I told her my local D* provider has always said I can get YES (the Yankee games) if I buy the EI package. Nope, not true, she says. "You should not get any Yankee games on YES if you're out of market."

So I told her to forget I ever called, "Okay" she says, "but you're very lucky."

Does anybody understand this convoluted system? Help!

This is the typical uniformed, idiotic response you get when talking to these parties. So how do we ever expect to get the correct response?

I spent about 3 hours on the phone today with D* trying to get an answer why in Tampa Florida, I am blacked out of watching the Red Sox/Yankee game in HD on ch 94. After three hours of around and around and around I got nowhere. The game was on ch 622 (YES) and ch 735 MLB EI but not on 94. I just think that YES has decided that the HD signal is for their NY market only ...it makes NO SENSE ....but that is the way it is going to be ...

If anybody has a national D* phone number I could use to complain about this matter, I'd appreciate them posting it.

When I try calling 877-722-4388 (supposedly D* customer assistance) the automated phone system just tells me to call my local provider. They're quite nice but they know nothing. Nada. And they tell me I can't talk to a national D* rep.

I will call YES however.

Originally posted by igreg
I doubt it is MLB that isn't allowing it. What would be the reason? More likley Yes wants extra $$$ for national HD coverage.

Who knows, maybe it wouldn't be fair to other teams. If I live in Iowa and can get the Yankees in HD, maybe I wouldn't watch a different game that was only SD. And YES would love to have the extra advertising dollars if HD went national. I don't think they'd need an extra fee from D*. But who knows how these people think. You could be right. I really think this is a MLB issue though.

Originally posted by fox13weather
I spent about 3 hours on the phone today with D* trying to get an answer why in Tampa Florida, I am blacked out of watching the Red Sox/Yankee game in HD on ch 94. After three hours of around and around and around I got nowhere. The game was on ch 622 (YES) and ch 735 MLB EI but not on 94. I just think that YES has decided that the HD signal is for their NY market only ...it makes NO SENSE ....but that is the way it is going to be ...

Do what I did...I "moved" back to NY. :D

But seriously folks....I know George Steinbrenner has a house here in Tampa (hell he practically owns half of Tampa). Maybe we should all go over there and tell him we want the YES HD made available here. I mean for cryin out loud, outside of the Metro NY area, Tampa probably has the largest number of Yankee fans.

Originally posted by shadowbox
Who knows, maybe it wouldn't be fair to other teams. If I live in Iowa and can get the Yankees in HD, maybe I wouldn't watch a different game that was only SD. And YES would love to have the extra advertising dollars if HD went national. I don't think they'd need an extra fee from D*. But who knows how these people think. You could be right. I really think this is a MLB issue though.

Plausible, although the NFL has no issues in this regard.

Not inconceivable MLB would also want more $$$ from DirecTV to allow YesHD in the EI package if the contract between MLB and DirecTV was limited to the current RSN's and any additions require MLB approval. Who knows for sure. Hopefully the post regarding Yes feeds being down and the statement that all EI subscribers should get YES in HD is correct.

Also not inconceivable that DirecTV is asleep at the wheel. In that regard, anyone have any opinions on why the White Sox replay was shown and the Met replay blacked out? Is this an example of DirecTV not knowing what its doing?

Originally posted by Mikey_C
Do what I did...I "moved" back to NY. :D

I mean for cryin out loud, outside of the Metro NY area, Tampa probably has the largest number of Yankee fans.
Well considering almost everyone who lives in the Ft Lauderdale/Hollywood/Miami area who isnt from Cuba is from NY city you've got the Yankee fan base on the wrong coast. To many midwesterners in Tampa. If they're not Devil Ray fans they are Cub fans in Tampa. With the exception of you obviously. You need to move south and east my friend.

With so much discussion regarding the availability of YES in HD, there's been very little talk of the content. Let me tell you something, it looks GREAT. Much better than the few Mets games I've seen in HD on WB11 (OTA). I hate the Yanks, but I watch them nearly as much as my Mets. The Stadium looks glorious in HD, especially during the sun-kissed day game. You have to hand it to the Yanks, they do everything top notch. I think the only 4x3 camera I've seen is the one of the pitcher's face from behind the plate. I don't have a percentage, but most of the shots are in HD, even the blimp ones, which are outstanding. Now if only I didn't have to listen to that sycophantic shill Michael Kay. What a jackass. I could synch it up to the radio I guess, but that's even worse with John Sterling.

Originally posted by sangs
With so much discussion regarding the availability of YES in HD, there's been very little talk of the content. Let me tell you something, it looks GREAT. Much better than the few Mets games I've seen in HD on WB11 (OTA). I hate the Yanks, but I watch them nearly as much as my Mets. The Stadium looks glorious in HD, especially during the sun-kissed day game. You have to hand it to the Yanks, they do everything top notch. I think the only 4x3 camera I've seen is the one of the pitcher's face from behind the plate. I don't have a percentage, but most of the shots are in HD, even the blimp ones, which are outstanding. Now if only I didn't have to listen to that sycophantic shill Michael Kay. What a jackass. I could synch it up to the radio I guess, but that's even worse with John Sterling. Always warms my heart to see a "Yankee hater" from the metro NYC area!

Originally posted by Benji
Always warms my heart to see a "Yankee hater" from the metro NYC area! He's obviously a (very frustrated) Mets fan...


Da Yankees win! Daaaaaa Yankees win!

Originally posted by Jeff Whitford
Well considering almost everyone who lives in the Ft Lauderdale/Hollywood/Miami area who isnt from Cuba is from NY city you've got the Yankee fan base on the wrong coast. To many midwesterners in Tampa. If they're not Devil Ray fans they are Cub fans in Tampa. With the exception of you obviously. You need to move south and east my friend.

Actually, since I moved down here two yrs ago, I've probably met more Yankee and (gasp) Red Sox fans than Devil Ray fans (who likes that team anyway?). On my street alone out of 8 houses, 6 of us are NY transplants.

Originally posted by michaelk
i tivo every single game.



I have learned that commercial breaks are almost exactly 2 minutes (i.e., 4 30 second skips) and the breaks between batters and after a ball is hit into the stands are also almost exactly 30 seconds (i.e., one 30 sec. skip). This way, you can start watching a game at about 9 (that actually started at 7 or so), and be done before 10:30!

Originally posted by Jeff Whitford
Well considering almost everyone who lives in the Ft Lauderdale/Hollywood/Miami area who isnt from Cuba is from NY city you've got the Yankee fan base on the wrong coast. To many midwesterners in Tampa. If they're not Devil Ray fans they are Cub fans in Tampa. With the exception of you obviously. You need to move south and east my friend.

I must beg to differ with you on this. Tampa has Legends Field and like the gentleman said earlier, Steinbrenner owns a lot of interest in Tampa. The fan base of most people that I've seen in the past few years when the Yankees have been in the World Series is either for the Yankees or local florida teams. Not many people here (other than the ones that just plain hate the Yankees) are rooting for much of anyone else. I will agree that there is a lot of cub/whitesox fans here but nothing that would rival the numbers of the Yankees fans.

The other YES thread has 26 pages, mostly about DirecTV, Comcast, TWC, and Cablevision issues. We need a topic where we can discuss the programming (without providing play-by-play, if possible.) I'd like to kick it of with a great quote:

Originally posted by sangs
With so much discussion regarding the availability of YES in HD, there's been very little talk of the content. Let me tell you something, it looks GREAT. Much better than the few Mets games I've seen in HD on WB11 (OTA). I hate the Yanks, but I watch them nearly as much as my Mets. The Stadium looks glorious in HD, especially during the sun-kissed day game. You have to hand it to the Yanks, they do everything top notch. I think the only 4x3 camera I've seen is the one of the pitcher's face from behind the plate. I don't have a percentage, but most of the shots are in HD, even the blimp ones, which are outstanding. Now if only I didn't have to listen to that sycophantic shill Michael Kay. What a jackass. I could synch it up to the radio I guess, but that's even worse with John Sterling.

Originally posted by Oldfred
Here's a new and unsettling twist.

I called my local D* provider. She couldn't tell me why I couldn't get the YES HD feed but she gave me a number to call at MLB.

So, I called MLB and the customer rep told me that not only shouldn't I be getting the HD feed, I should not be getting the SD feed on channel 622! Once I recovered, I told her my local D* provider has always said I can get YES (the Yankee games) if I buy the EI package. Nope, not true, she says. "You should not get any Yankee games on YES if you're out of market."

So I told her to forget I ever called, "Okay" she says, "but you're very lucky."

Does anybody understand this convoluted system? Help!

Me thinks she qualifies as either the most UNIFORMED MLB employee ever hired (but Butt Selig is a close 2nd)....or she's a BIG fan of the Iraqi Minister of Misinformation....:p

Amazing....

Originally posted by igreg
Plausible, although the NFL has no issues in this regard.

Not inconceivable MLB would also want more $$$ from DirecTV to allow YesHD in the EI package if the contract between MLB and DirecTV was limited to the current RSN's and any additions require MLB approval. Who knows for sure. Hopefully the post regarding Yes feeds being down and the statement that all EI subscribers should get YES in HD is correct.

Also not inconceivable that DirecTV is asleep at the wheel. In that regard, anyone have any opinions on why the White Sox replay was shown and the Met replay blacked out? Is this an example of DirecTV not knowing what its doing?

I too have noticed over the last few years that *ocassionally* a replay feed will slip through without being blacked out (I *think* 2000 was the last year that MOST replays weren't blacked out). I'm just not too keen on whether it's an MLB control issue....or an RSN specific issue WRT selling ad time (i.e. the ads are only paid for "once" so should only run once nationally....or some thinking like that?).

Just this past season the SEC started blacking out FB/BB games on replay on the Southern RSN's OUTSIDE of the SEC's conference states. Before this year they weren't blacked out. Why they did it? I rememeber reading a press release put out by the SEC or JP sports....but I don't remember what their logic was. You would *think* that a major sports conference would want as many people exposed to their product as possible....but I'm sure it had something to do with money (i.e. people *may* not pay for the ESPN Gameplan package if they knew they could catch the game on replay a few hours later without paying $99 a year)

But the logic behind the blackout of YES-HD feed outside of the NYC DMA probably has more to do with MONEY (i.e SOMEONE wants more money in their pockets) than anything else.....

Originally posted by Mikey_C
He's obviously a (very frustrated) Mets fan...
Da Yankees win! Daaaaaa Yankees win!

You are correct sir! (Frustrated Tigers fan as well.)

But we already know that Daaa Yankees win in the regular season. How's that post season thing worked out the last four years though? Daaa Yankees choke! Daaa Yankees choke!
Good to see Mariano in postseason form already. :D

Originally posted by sangs

Good to see Mariano in postseason form already. :D

At least we have postseason :D

Originally posted by hphase
The other YES thread has 26 pages, mostly about DirecTV, Comcast, TWC, and Cablevision issues. We need a topic where we can discuss the programming (without providing play-by-play, if possible.) I'd like to kick it of with a great quote:

It be hard to discuss programming when all providers are only bringing us "the game". After yesterdays dramatic win i'd like to have seen the locker room in HD but as soon as NY,NY started playing... fade to black, insert DirecTV logo here.

So unless you/we want to talk about the 1 almost HD commercial what else is there to type about?

Originally posted by PDPnNJ
At least we have postseason :D

...and Boston will have to wait another 86 years for another one


...the Tigers??? LMAO

I just spoke to YES people. Unlike D*, they pick up by 2nd ring and their CSR's are knowledgable.

The YES HD broadcasts of the home NYY games ARE supposed to be broadcast on D* on Channel 94 if you have EI and HD pkgs--both in-mkt and out-of-mkt. D* is having a feeder problem with the out-of-mkt feeder (whatever that is) but is aware of it and is working on it.

Let's see how long it takes to correct. Anyone care to venture a guess?

I just fired off an e-mail to Bob Raissman over at the NY Daily News to see if he could get an answer since he writes a TV sports column. Phil Mushnick would be a good source of info over at the NY Post as well....but there is no e-mail link available that I could find for him.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/col/braissman/

Well from the two games I've seen so far,Yes has really got it together,looks like all the Hd filming of games over the past season has payed off,great looking shots from above behind,outfield,really good stuff!! I've seen the HD debut of many channels and YESHD really looks as if they have been at it for awhile,on screen graphics,it's all been very impressive,sound was a little problem for awhile the first night,but yesterday I don't recall any sound trouble.I waited a longtime for the Yanks in HD,and YESHD has made it worth the wait bring on the home games!!! So all thats left to say is Yes HD!!! Thank you Jim

Originally posted by hphase
The other YES thread has 26 pages, mostly about DirecTV, Comcast, TWC, and Cablevision issues. We need a topic where we can discuss the programming (without providing play-by-play, if possible.) I'd like to kick it of with a great quote:

Threads merged.

No need to read all posts in this thread in order to comment about the programming or schedule.

Originally posted by Lewbie
I just spoke to YES people. Unlike D*, they pick up by 2nd ring and their CSR's are knowledgable.

The YES HD broadcasts of the home NYY games ARE supposed to be broadcast on D* on Channel 94 if you have EI and HD pkgs--both in-mkt and out-of-mkt. D* is having a feeder problem with the out-of-mkt feeder (whatever that is) but is aware of it and is working on it.

Let's see how long it takes to correct. Anyone care to venture a guess?

This is VERY good news.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Threads merged.

No need to read all posts in this thread in order to comment about the programming or schedule.

Well excuuuuuusssssseeeeee me.

I could care less about Extra Innings and how "DirecTV is screwing me." If that's the topic of this thread, change the title.

By the way, you might want to think about limiting chat on "moving." Just like copying software, it's a Federal offense.

AMF

whaaaaaaaaaaa

Well atleast today nobody should be screwed besides CVC customers as usual, ESPN-HD, NESN-HD, and YES-HD doing today's game. Another businessman's special :)

Today I'm going with the ultra-definition and taking the day off from work. Looks like another great spring day especially for this series again.

Originally posted by hphase
Well excuuuuuusssssseeeeee me.

I could care less about Extra Innings and how "DirecTV is screwing me." If that's the topic of this thread, change the title.

By the way, you might want to think about limiting chat on "moving." Just like copying software, it's a Federal offense.

AMF

So is cutting off the "Do not remove" tag from mattresses.

Originally posted by hphase
Just like copying software, it's a Federal offense.


OK...explain to me which section of the Federal Law covers this? I am paying for the service...not stealing it (which would be what copying software is)

Originally posted by Mikey_C

...the Tigers??? LMAO

What can I say ? The guy is glutton for punishment :D

Originally posted by sangs
You are correct sir! (Frustrated Tigers fan as well.)

But we already know that Daaa Yankees win in the regular season. How's that post season thing worked out the last four years though? Daaa Yankees choke! Daaa Yankees choke!
Good to see Mariano in postseason form already. :D

Yes, Yanks did choke last year. But, they also won 26 world champs.
Some other teams out there have choked for over 80 years.

Originally posted by PDPnNJ
At least we have postseason :D Until you face my Wildcard Champ Red Sox again!

Originally posted by Benji
Until you face my Wildcard Champ Red Sox again!

You guys have a different team this year. Your pitching (aside Schilling) is atrocious.

Originally posted by Benji
Until you face my Wildcard Champ Red Sox again!

Keep dreamin...you'll have to wait another 86 years

And you guys are basing your conclusion on 2/162nds of the season. Please, we still have 160 more chances for the Skanks to choke again.

Originally posted by Benji
Until you face my Wildcard Champ Red Sox again!

Wild card is such a joke. Add some more teams go back to 4 divisions. Christ there are grapefruit league teams that play better than some of the major leaguer's.

I for one felt the Yankee's didn't deserve to be in the playoff the first year of the wild-card.

Oh and to make some people feel happy:

I for one was surprised by the nice HD blimp cam. The overhead sweeping shots are glorious. Now i just wish we had the base and in-ground cams. Would have been real nice to see Tino snag that ball up close.

Originally posted by Benji
And you guys are basing your conclusion on 2/162nds of the season. Please, we still have 160 more chances for the Skanks to choke again.

No. Name a pitcher that will fill Pedro's shoes. Mentally, the 1-2 combination between Pedro and Curt hurt the Yankees. Now, after Curt pitches - there is a huge downfall in quality. Hitting wise, you guys are still solid. Definitely wildcard material but that's about it.

Originally posted by PDPnNJ
No. Name a pitcher that will fill Pedro's shoes. Mentally, the 1-2 combination between Pedro and Curt hurt the Yankees. Now, after Curt pitches - there is a huge downfall in quality. Hitting wise, you guys are still solid. Definitely wildcard material but that's about it. How about David "Babe Ruth" Wells. Well...maybe, that's a stretch but "In Theo We Trust"!

Originally posted by Mikey_C
OK...explain to me which section of the Federal Law covers this? I am paying for the service...not stealing it (which would be what copying software is)
Musta hit a nerve...

If you provide false information to receive a program you are not otherwise eligible to receive, that is considered the same as signal theft. Of course, first they have to catch you. Or read your caller ID.

I don't always observe the speed limit, so don't anybody.

And I don't sell mattresses, so I can remove the tag if I want to. But you probably already knew that, and were trying to be cute.

Now tell me again, how did DirecTV screw you?

Anyone have an update about Francona's chest pains?

Originally posted by rkunces
Today I'm going with the ultra-definition and taking the day off from work. Looks like another great spring day especially for this series again.

Nice! A couple weeks ago I was attending my elder son's basketball game when his younger brother asked me: "Is this game in high definition?" If he asked me that today I'd answer: "No son, DirecTV blacked it out!"

Hey, you guys lost the A-Fraud vs. Varitek fight. You lost the ALCS. Now the Yankees get to see the ring ceremony first hand. Deal with it.

In other news, Terry Francona went to the hospital with "chest tightness." He will obviously miss todays game. Get well soon, Tito.

Originally posted by rkunces
Anyone have an update about Francona's chest pains?

He's at the Cornell medical center getting tests. That's all that WEEI has said so far.

Originally posted by Benji
And you guys are basing your conclusion on 2/162nds of the season. Please, we still have 160 more chances for the Skanks to choke again.

Let's see, the Yanks are 2 games up with 160 to play. That makes our magic number ... :rolleyes:

All I have to say is that being the hunted rather than the hunter is a different deal entirely. Let the games begin !!

I predict (worth about as much as anyone else's) a Monster season for Derek Jeter. He's had all winter to stew over what happened and watching the Sox get their rings next week will just drive him harder.

As for Mo, we will live and die with him. My fear is that he is starting down the back side of the curve. Time waits for no one, including Mo. I just have this dread fear that we wasted his talents over the the last couple of years with starting pitchers who could not go deep into games. Making him work more than he should have.

Originally posted by rkunces
Anyone have an update about Francona's chest pains?

From a Yankee fan:

Red Sox manager Terry Francona was taken to a hospital Wednesday morning after experiencing stiffness in his chest.
Francona, whom the Red Sox said would not manage Wednesday's game against the Yankees, was at Yankee Stadium early in the morning when he felt discomfort. He was taken by ambulance to Cornell Medical Center in Manhattan.

"He experienced some chest stiffness earlier this morning," Boston general manager Theo Epstein said. "The best course of action was to take him to the hospital for precautionary tests."

There was no word on those tests or Francona's condition.

Bench coach Brad Mills will manage the Red Sox today in Francona's absence.


My cousin works up there and said they "found a lump the size of your fist but soon learned it was his stomach prescribed pepto-bizmo" Francona said i don't think i can face the fact i may be 3 games down to the yanks after today. Maybe ill call in sick so it wont be all my fault.

It's joke to call Sux and Yanks as rivalry. They're totally different level teams. You only call it when the 2 teams's records are close. How many world champs Sux won in last 10 years? how many times sux won AL East? how many times Sux won AL peanut?
Are they even close? So, why you still call them rivalry? It's just media hype.

The most funny thing to me is curse schilling's stupid bloody sox. What the heck is that? He got paid for big bucks, he should stand up to pitch. why people make big deal about that?

Originally posted by webboy10169
It be hard to discuss programming when all providers are only bringing us "the game". After yesterdays dramatic win i'd like to have seen the locker room in HD but as soon as NY,NY started playing... fade to black, insert DirecTV logo here.

So unless you/we want to talk about the 1 almost HD commercial what else is there to type about?

Although its better than it used to be, DirecTV used to delight in how quickly they could end its telecasts after the final out, basket, etc. I just imagined some guy at DirecTV with an itchy trigger finger whose main job was shutting off the telecast as soon as possible.

Originally posted by JMMHouston
Hey, you guys lost the A-Fraud vs. Varitek fight. You lost the ALCS. Now the Yankees get to see the ring ceremony first hand. Deal with it.

Yeah, it's real tough challenging someone in full catcher's gear, mask included. I'd seriously like to see your captain take on A-Rod again without the gear. The only man in Red Sox history is Bill Lee, who didn't need to fight with catcher's gear on.

Other than that, I welcome an exciting season and the Sox have more than earned the right to do or say whatever they want.

Originally posted by Benji
How about David "Babe Ruth" Wells. Well...maybe, that's a stretch but "In Theo We Trust"! David was at club NA last night practicing putting them down with his left hand for his next start...

Originally posted by seldenpat
Yeah, it's real tough challenging someone in full catcher's gear, mask included. I'd seriously like to see your captain take on A-Rod again without the gear. The only man in Red Sox history is Bill Lee, who didn't need to fight with catcher's gear on.

Other than that, I welcome an exciting season and the Sox have more than earned the right to do or say whatever they want.

Was Varitek supposed to remove the leg guards, chest protecter, catchers mitt, and face mask? How many "F*** you!" and "Lets f***ing go!" comments from someone 3 inches from your grill are you supposed to take before swinging back? Varitek took about 30 seconds longer than I would have to dismantle that p.o.s.

Originally posted by JMMHouston
Was Varitek supposed to remove the leg guards, chest protecter, catchers mitt, and face mask? How many "F*** you!" and "Lets f***ing go!" comments from someone 3 inches from your grill are you supposed to take before swinging back? Varitek took about 30 seconds longer than I would have to dismantle that p.o.s.

Whatever you say...like I said, he's got big balls with full gear on. Didn't even flip off the mask, so you don't even know what was coming out of his mouth.

Luckily for us, you don't have the option to dismantle "that p.o.s." I hope those anger management classes are working out for you.

wow this thread has gone down the toilet....

Originally posted by bgall
wow this thread has gone down the toilet....

Seriously but all should be back on track in 20 mins.

Btw park looks great today with the crowd filing in. Beautiful day for a game.

A-Fraud has a bigger set of stones by trying to big-time Bronson Arroyo.
That purse slap play in the playoffs really shows good sportsmanship also.

Yankees fans should not defend the actions of this selfish, overpaid, overhyped athlete. I have all the respect in the world for Bernie, Mariano, Jeter, Tino, and the rest. I have no time for the third baseman.

Originally posted by JMMHouston
Was Varitek supposed to remove the leg guards, chest protecter, catchers mitt, and face mask? How many "F*** you!" and "Lets f***ing go!" comments from someone 3 inches from your grill are you supposed to take before swinging back? Varitek took about 30 seconds longer than I would have to dismantle that p.o.s.

No, Varitek didn't have to do that. But, A-Rod should have just used bat to punch that p***o***s.

Originally posted by JMMHouston
A-Fraud has a bigger set of stones by trying to big-time Bronson Arroyo.
That purse slap play in the playoffs really shows good sportsmanship also.

Yankees fans should not defend the actions of this selfish, overpaid, overhyped athlete. I have all the respect in the world for Bernie, Mariano, Jeter, Tino, and the rest. I have no time for the third baseman. Why cause he took all that money from Texas and really never wanted to play there?

Originally posted by EricRobins
I have learned that commercial breaks are almost exactly 2 minutes (i.e., 4 30 second skips) and the breaks between batters and after a ball is hit into the stands are also almost exactly 30 seconds (i.e., one 30 sec. skip). This way, you can start watching a game at about 9 (that actually started at 7 or so), and be done before 10:30!


exactly

4 slaps of the botton and there you are right on the pitch

Ah, my work is done here. Mom always said I was an instigator.

And to think, I don't even like either team. Go Mets! Go Tigers! (I know, I know, shut your yaps.) :D

Ah, my work is done here. Mom always said I was an instigator.

And to think, I don't even like either team. Go Mets! Go Tigers! (I know, I know, shut your yaps.) :D Enjoy the game everybody.

At this point, I know this doesn't mean much but...

I just got off the phone w/ D* customer retention (I called to state my frustrations and inquire about canceling). The woman I spoke to put me on hold while she talked to a supervisor. The super told her that D* in the last two days signed an agreement w/ MLB to broadcast EI games in HD. She told me to give it a week and see what happens then I could call back to cancel if the HD doesn't 'work itself out.'

Seems like good news, but I've been down this road before.

At least this game is also on ESPN HD.

Varitek took about 30 seconds longer than I would have to dismantle that p.o.s.

Tough guy! lol

Originally posted by patrickpiteo
Why cause he took all that money from Texas and really never wanted to play there?

There haven't been any tears shed in Seattle or Texas when he left. Probably will be the same thing when he wears out his welcome in New York.

Alright, is the game up for EI subscribers on channel 94?

No but at least today ESPNHD is carrying it on Channel 73.

Originally posted by Benji
How about David "Babe Ruth" Wells. Well...maybe, that's a stretch but "In Theo We Trust"!

Wait until his back acts up in the middle of the playoffs. He lost one world series for us with his out of shape large rear.

Originally posted by michaelk
Wait until his back acts up in the middle of the playoffs. He lost one world series for us with his out of shape large rear.

You can say the same thing about Kevin Brown when he hits (literally) the wall this summer.

Originally posted by JMMHouston
Was Varitek supposed to remove the leg guards, chest protecter, catchers mitt, and face mask? How many "F*** you!" and "Lets f***ing go!" comments from someone 3 inches from your grill are you supposed to take before swinging back? Varitek took about 30 seconds longer than I would have to dismantle that p.o.s.

A man would have removed his face mask

Originally posted by JMMHouston
A-Fraud has a bigger set of stones by trying to big-time Bronson Arroyo.
That purse slap play in the playoffs really shows good sportsmanship also.

Yankees fans should not defend the actions of this selfish, overpaid, overhyped athlete. I have all the respect in the world for Bernie, Mariano, Jeter, Tino, and the rest. I have no time for the third baseman.


Did that come from the red sox talking points memo that your team spent all spring quoting from until your manager told them to shut up?

Speaking of the manager- Poor guy- loses 2 games to the yanks and has a heart attack.

Originally posted by JMMHouston
You can say the same thing about Kevin Brown when he hits (literally) the wall this summer.

Trust me- I will and I do. He’s worthless.

George just can’t find anyone to get rid of him on.

That said- he’s our number 5 while Wells is Boston’s number 2.

Big difference when they both melt down.

Originally posted by David Ortiz
At least this game is also on ESPN HD.

Blacked out here

Originally posted by AnthonyB
I must beg to differ with you on this. Tampa has Legends Field and like the gentleman said earlier, Steinbrenner owns a lot of interest in Tampa. The fan base of most people that I've seen in the past few years when the Yankees have been in the World Series is either for the Yankees or local florida teams. Not many people here (other than the ones that just plain hate the Yankees) are rooting for much of anyone else. I will agree that there is a lot of cub/whitesox fans here but nothing that would rival the numbers of the Yankees fans.
I'm truly sorry to hear that. Tampa used to be a nice town. I used to think that if we could just get all the NY people/Yankee fans out of Ft Lauderdale what a much nicer town it would be. Oh well I guess we have to right off the whole state now.:D ;) ;) ;) ;)

Then they should also officially (or unofficially) extend the early bird pricing. Not my fault they don't have their ducks in a row, not like they didn't have time to figure this out. Nobody gave me the option of cancelling after the season started when I told them I was dropping because of the lack of HD.

IF any of this isn't just a CSR fantasy. . .

Originally posted by JIMF25
I just got off the phone w/ D* customer retention (I called to state my frustrations and inquire about canceling). The woman I spoke to put me on hold while she talked to a supervisor. The super told her that D* in the last two days signed an agreement w/ MLB to broadcast EI games in HD. She told me to give it a week and see what happens then I could call back to cancel if the HD doesn't 'work itself out.'

Just like people should write off chi cubs because of that excellent 'fan catch' in 03? :) :)

A-Rod HR cuts Boston lead to 2-1
Tino HR Ties it in 5th

This is really funny because DirecTV still hasn't even put up on their own website, that they carry the Yankees games in HD on YES. Now maybe DirecTV has struck a deal with MLB to carry the YES Network's HD feed as part of the Extra Innings package. This is good news. I'm still waiting to hear that DirecTV is carrying NESN's HD broadcast, along with the other Regional Sports Networks who broadcast their games in HD as well.

Originally posted by michaelk
Trust me- I will and I do. He’s worthless.

George just can’t find anyone to get rid of him on.

That said- he’s our number 5 while Wells is Boston’s number 2.

Big difference when they both melt down.

Where does Jaret Wright fall in the rotation? Number 4?

While I think the Yankees have a slight edge in their rotation, Wright and Pavano are unproven quantities in New York. You don't have to look any further than Jeff Weaver and Javier Vazquez to see pitchers that can't handle New York. At least Wells has a track record of winning big games in big spots.

So, shall we look at Matt Clement, Wade Miller? Have they proved they can play in Boston? Wells? Not likely he can deliver decent stuff anymore. He's done.

Okay, I am getting the Yankee game on both YES and ESPN-HD, but the camera angles aren't the same. Are they using a different set of cameras or just different camera selections? Also, ESPN looks a bit sharper than YES.

NESN HD broadcast being picked up by Sportsnet HD in Canada.

Sound is DD2.0

Some replays look to be widescreen SDTV.

Originally posted by jdspencer
Are they using a different set of cameras

Yes.

Originally posted by nywst
So, shall we look at Matt Clement, Wade Miller? Have they proved they can play in Boston? Wells? Not likely he can deliver decent stuff anymore. He's done.

I totally agree. Let's get Clement to actually throw a first pitch strike. I think Miller, when he becomes available later this year, will be like acquiring a good starter at the all-star break.

I grant you that the Yankees rotation is slightly better, not far superior to, the Sox rotation. Having said that, I like the Sox bullpen and lineup relative to the Yankees. These are very evenly matched teams. That's why it's so much fun to watch.

anybody announced anything?

Originally posted by SonyHD
Now maybe DirecTV has struck a deal with MLB to carry the YES Network's HD feed as part of the Extra Innings package. This is good news.

Isn't that a waste of HD production equipment to use two sets of cameras?

Originally posted by jdspencer
Isn't that a waste of HD production equipment to use two sets of cameras?

Probably, but it should be a moot point in the near future.

Originally posted by SonyHD
This is really funny because DirecTV still hasn't even put up on their own website, that they carry the Yankees games in HD on YES. Now maybe DirecTV has struck a deal with MLB to carry the YES Network's HD feed as part of the Extra Innings package. This is good news. I'm still waiting to hear that DirecTV is carrying NESN's HD broadcast, along with the other Regional Sports Networks who broadcast their games in HD as well.

The lack of promotion/information IS amazing isn't it!

It's kind of like when there is a freeview of the MLB EI or the Gameplan/NBA preview *most* folks I talk to (outside of the ones on these high tech/AV forums) aren't even AWARE that there was a free preview...OR that channels were being "added" to a package/lineup. Or when certain National HD channels went "live"...etc...

And that's *probably* why MOST CSR'S who field these calls haven't a clue!! :confused:

At the end of the Boston/Yankee game I switched over to the Cleveland/Chicago game on WGN HD ... what a difference in quality ... both picture (much sharper) and sound (DD5.1) quality. WGN HD rocks ... they are still number one for baseball coverage! They put you in the stadium!

Who carries WGN HD?

Originally posted by HiDef Bob
At the end of the Boston/Yankee game I switched over to the Cleveland/Chicago game on WGN HD ... what a difference in quality ... both picture (much sharper) and sound (DD5.1) quality. WGN HD rocks ... they are still number one for baseball coverage! They put you in the stadium!

To my brothers and sisters who boo'ed Mo as he came off the mound:

SHAME ON YOU ! :mad:

Originally posted by bigcat
Who carries WGN HD?

OTA maybe?

Originally posted by Lew_b
To my brothers and sisters who boo'ed Mo as he came off the mound:

SHAME ON YOU ! :mad:

BAH! He deserved it. Actually Torre did for keeping him in there.

Mo has been off for 2 days. Hopefully it's because the season just starts.

Mo failed to save when playing BOS: 2
BOS bullpen failed to save when playing Yanks: 1

Probably in the end of season, both figures will be even.

Here's the response I got from DirecTV, followed by my E-mail to them. About as much as I expected:

Dear David,

Thanks for writing. I'm sorry, but we don't carry YES in HD right now. However, we often add programming based on customer requests, and I have forwarded your request to DIRECTV management. You can see the ESPN Sunday Night Baseball game in HD however we do not offer YES in HD at this time.

Thanks again for writing and please stay tuned to DIRECTV.com for the latest news and information about our service.

Sincerely,

Pablo
DIRECTV Customer Service

[Topic Selected: Hdtv]


Details: Greetings,

I'm sure I'm not the first out of market, Extra Innings subscriber, Yankee fan to ask why DirecTV is not giving us YES Yankees games in HD?

I'd like a real answer that has been checked and confirmed. Not just the standard CSR double talk or misinformation. Don't just tell me I can't get it. Tell me WHY? Please!

There has been much speculation on the internet as to why we can't get the games, but none have made sense to me. MLB and DirecTV get money from me for Extra Innings. DirecTV gets even more from me for their HD package. YES HD is available on DirecTV. We already pay to see out of market games that don't conflict with our local franchises, and are therefore subject to being blacked out, etc and so forth. That is what the Extra Innings package is for. So, I understand the blackout rules, unless HD is a special case.

All I want to know is, why we are not getting the YES broadcasts in HD? It's on the Satellite. It's there to be seen.

Is it a YES issue?

Is it a MLB issue?

Is it a DirecTV issue?

Other?

Originally posted by JIMF25
At this point, I know this doesn't mean much but...

I just got off the phone w/ D* customer retention (I called to state my frustrations and inquire about canceling). The woman I spoke to put me on hold while she talked to a supervisor. The super told her that D* in the last two days signed an agreement w/ MLB to broadcast EI games in HD. She told me to give it a week and see what happens then I could call back to cancel if the HD doesn't 'work itself out.'

Seems like good news, but I've been down this road before.

Who do you believe...response noted here, or response right above this one?

Originally posted by bigcat
Who carries WGN HD?

expressvu a.k.a BEV.

Damm, it was not shown on ESPN-HD because NESN carried it, but not in HD, what the hell are they blacking out shows when it is not available on other channels, especially in HD.

Thankfully .......

Originally posted by JMMHouston
Where does Jaret Wright fall in the rotation? Number 4?

actually yes. The only reason he was originally number 5 was to save brownies feelings but now that they have an excuse they moved brown to number 5. If you care to read the columnists who surmised that- try the newark star ledger online- its a quality paper. The bergen record is also good.


Originally posted by JMMHouston

While I think the Yankees have a slight edge in their rotation, Wright and Pavano are unproven quantities in New York. You don't have to look any further than Jeff Weaver and Javier Vazquez to see pitchers that can't handle New York. At least Wells has a track record of winning big games in big spots.

totally agreed. Theres a list a mile long behind those guys too. And they aren't only pitchers. Kenny Rodgers, and Benito the old Mets closer come to mind. But Pavano (knock on wood) seems to be just fine. (but then again so did vazquesz to start last year- but my sister in AZ tells me he sucks there too so maybe he just fell apart....)

Originally posted by jdspencer
Isn't that a waste of HD production equipment to use two sets of cameras?

actualluy they do that with SD all the time, so why should HD be any different? Especially now that its becomming the norm. I'm sure they pick differnt camera angles all the time- if your pitcher gives up a grand slam they probably show his reaction, if your batter got the cgrand slam they might show him running the bases, high fiving the coaches and the fans going wild (if its the home team).


There was an article in popular mechanics a few years ago showing the evolution at Yankee Stadium from like 4 cameras in the 70's till the time of the article when there were like 25 cameras with each team having therir own - Home team had like 15 and the away team got like 10 to use.

Originally posted by jaypb
The lack of promotion/information IS amazing isn't it!

It's kind of like when there is a freeview of the MLB EI or the Gameplan/NBA preview *most* folks I talk to (outside of the ones on these high tech/AV forums) aren't even AWARE that there was a free preview...OR that channels were being "added" to a package/lineup. Or when certain National HD channels went "live"...etc...

And that's *probably* why MOST CSR'S who field these calls haven't a clue!! :confused:

Exactly- i posted earlier in this thread (or the older one) that I emailed a couple friends in the NY DMA that we were getting YES HD and mentioned in passing that we now got the big four and YES. One guy wrote back all pissed off- he didnt even know ABC was HD on the birds.

Originally posted by vfrjim
Damm, it was not shown on ESPN-HD because NESN carried it, but not in HD, what the hell are they blacking out shows when it is not available on other channels, especially in HD.

Thankfully ....... EXCLUSIVITY....NESN has the exclusive rights to all Red Sox games in New England, except for ESPN Sunday Night Baseball.

More great customer support from D*!

I sent the following e-mail to them yesterday:
"As you can from my account, I subscribe to both the
EI and HD packages. I know that DTV has entered into a
contract with YES Network to carry NY Yankee home broadcast
that are in YES HD. However, while I have received the
broadcast on the EI channel and 622 (YES) in SD, for some
reason I am being blacked out from the HD broadcast on
channel 94. The screen info says that the game is not
available in my area. The YES people tell me that DTV has
acknowledged to them that this is due to a DTV feeder
problem that you are aware of and that even though I am
out-of-market, I should be receiving that HD broadcast. The
DTV CSR's appear to know nothing about this situation. I am
completely frustrated by having to wait an unacceptable
amount of time only to be told that they know nothing about
this and that it is an MLS problem. Can you add anything to
this "debate?""

Well, this morning I received this reply:

"Thank you for writing. Unfortunately, at this time we have
not information as to the availability of the YES channel in
HD on channel 94. However, please stay tuned to DIRECTV.com
for the latest news and information about our service.
Sincerely,
Ian
DIRECTV Customer Service"

Way to go Ian! At this rate, you'll be CEO soon!

Lewbie,

You are no better off than Ian if you expected anything more from Directv's CSR. It has been reported over and over that they are not well imformed and typically the last to know. That is why sites like the AVS Forum are so valuable. Does it make you feel good trashing Ian from Directv?

dm145: Actually, it does feel good. Don't worry, I'd be willing to bet that Ian doesn't read this forum or he, and other CSRs from D* and elsewhere, wouldn't say the things that they do. You missed the point, which was to once again demonstrate the lack of communication in the huge behemoths with those who deal with CUSTOMERS. The conflicting info from them all, as reported here, is testimony to that.

This doesn't have to be brain surgery! Why can't we get just get an Official announcement from MLB, YES Network or whoever else is responsible for not allowing DirecTV to show the YES broadcasts in HD on the MLB Extra Innings package? The only logical thing that makes sense to me is that MLB wants DirecTV, DISH and Comcast to carry a HD version of the MLB Extra Innings package, which of course would cost more money.

Originally posted by Benji
EXCLUSIVITY....NESN has the exclusive rights to all Red Sox games in New England, except for ESPN Sunday Night Baseball.

So, if I tell Directv that I do not live in the Boston DMA and purchase the MLB package, I would get all the games from NESN and the HD broadcasts on ESPN?

Originally posted by vfrjim
So, if I tell Directv that I do not live in the Boston DMA and purchase the MLB package, I would get all the games from NESN and the HD broadcasts on ESPN? No Jim...since you live in New England (the area that NESN covers) you would be blacked out from any non-national ESPN (Sox) games. The Sunday Night Baseball on ESPN is national. NESN can not televise the Sox if they are on that telecast. ESPN owns the exclusive rights.

However, if you lie and say you live in anyplace outside of New England, you can get the MLBEI package and get all NESN games plus ESPN non-national games.

Originally posted by Lewbie
More great customer support from D*!

I sent the following e-mail to them yesterday:
"As you can from my account, I subscribe to both the
EI and HD packages. I know that DTV has entered into a
contract with YES Network to carry NY Yankee home broadcast
that are in YES HD. However, while I have received the
broadcast on the EI channel and 622 (YES) in SD, for some
reason I am being blacked out from the HD broadcast on
channel 94. The screen info says that the game is not
available in my area. The YES people tell me that DTV has
acknowledged to them that this is due to a DTV feeder
problem that you are aware of and that even though I am
out-of-market, I should be receiving that HD broadcast. The
DTV CSR's appear to know nothing about this situation. I am
completely frustrated by having to wait an unacceptable
amount of time only to be told that they know nothing about
this and that it is an MLS problem. Can you add anything to
this "debate?""

Well, this morning I received this reply:

"Thank you for writing. Unfortunately, at this time we have
not information as to the availability of the YES channel in
HD on channel 94. However, please stay tuned to DIRECTV.com
for the latest news and information about our service.
Sincerely,
Ian
DIRECTV Customer Service"

Way to go Ian! At this rate, you'll be CEO soon!

Haha, D* really sucks. :)
Last Sat I called my local Comcast CSR regarding YES HD. Of course he said he didn't know anything, and he said he would call me if he got anything new. After 30 mins, he called me back and told me YES HD would be available on Channel 207 (INHD 2).

I was hoping that this "feeder problem" was true and that we would soon be watching Yankees in H.D. but on tues as I had tuned to 94 right before the game I saw the blue dtv screen change from blue to the yes logo and 2 seconds of yes sound then program not in your area message. Did not look like a feeder problem to me! Soooo Sad !

Originally posted by dm145
Lewbie,

You are no better off than Ian if you expected anything more from Directv's CSR. It has been reported over and over that they are not well imformed and typically the last to know. That is why sites like the AVS Forum are so valuable. Does it make you feel good trashing Ian from Directv?

Perhaps Lewbie expected that Ian would have found out an answer for him, rather than just saying that he didn't know. Let's remember that this was an email, not a phone call. Why on earth would Ian take the time to write back and say "I don't have any information" to a customer that is quite obviously frustrated with his situation and service? Perhaps Ian should find out what the hell is going on so he could report THAT to Lewbie, rather than waste Lewbie's time, and frustrate him more with a response like the one he gave. In fact, if Ian could not assertain the answer to the question that was asked, perhaps he could have told Lewbie who he could contact to get that answer.

Maybe Ian deserved to be trashed. And maybe your response about trashing Ian was out of line and uncalled for...

The funniest thing about all of this is:

I can't find ONE mention of YES-HD on DirecTV's website!!

I mean....it's only been active since....what Sunday.

:rolleyes:

And, from what I'm told there's an MLB EI "Freeview" on D* this week....but NO MENTION of it on either website....at least not in plain site.

:eek:

Originally posted by jaypb
The funniest thing about all of this is:

I can't find ONE mention of YES-HD on DirecTV's website!!

I mean....it's only been active since....what Sunday.

:rolleyes:

And, from what I'm told there's an MLB EI "Freeview" on D* this week....but NO MENTION of it on either website....at least not in plain site.

:eek:

And it was reported as a "rumor" that turned out to be correct how many weeks ago?

D* needs to get their act together and stop treating their customers like spies.

Originally posted by jaypb
The funniest thing about all of this is:

I can't find ONE mention of YES-HD on DirecTV's website!!

I mean....it's only been active since....what Sunday.

:rolleyes:

And, from what I'm told there's an MLB EI "Freeview" on D* this week....but NO MENTION of it on either website....at least not in plain site.

:eek:

Well, technicallly - they are using YES-HD feeds for Yankees game exclusively. You can call this as 'special events'. D* has been carrying NBA games in HD for longer time and they never published those in their website. I guess they don't to avoid rabid customers who do not understand regional blackouts.

Yes, D* CRS should not correctly give YES HD info to customers, 'cause they can find out from avs. :) :)

Originally posted by zoma4
Maybe Ian deserved to be trashed. And maybe your response about trashing Ian was out of line and uncalled for...

MYOB

Originally posted by Benji
However, if you lie and say you live in anyplace outside of New England, you can get the MLBEI package and get all NESN games plus ESPN non-national games.

Thanks, but it will not be a lie, I am moving soon.

Jim

I'll be sure to check back here tomorrow night to see if the D* "feeders" are "fixed." Since we're in Orioles country, the feed will be blacked out for me anyway. And then next week, all 3 Sox-Yanks games are on ESPN, so I will hopefully get to watch my first YES HD broadcast NEXT weekend.

Most of the string has been very good. Too bad no one from D* reads it and can post anything helpful...

Originally posted by dm145
MYOB

If you don't want people to comment on what you say, you should probably not use a PUBLIC forum. If you want people to "MYOB", it would be best to use Private Messages as a form of communication.

Until then, get over your damn self.

I really hope the "hopefuls" are right but I do not see the Yankee games showing up out of market even with the ei package. INHD has the rights

I'm confused. Has TWC agreed to carry YES HD? If so, what channel?

Originally posted by kristcnj
I'm confused. Has TWC agreed to carry YES HD? If so, what channel?

I have no clue whether there is an agreement but in NYC we are getting YES HD on 708.

This has been for the Yankee live broadcasts—
no “re-wind”
no Nets

so far.

from the YES Network and she says it is DirecTV's decision we are not getting the Yankees HD version of the games because it is out of market. I did mention I have the EI and HDTV package and she reiterated that it is DirecTV's decision........this sucks.:rolleyes:

I live in Massachusetts and channel 94 shows Yankees versus O's tonite on the channel guide. There is no reason whatsoever that I shouldn't have this game in HD. I pay for the the HD package and the MLB package. I have already sent a "nice" email to Directv asking if I'll be getting the game and if not, get an explanation why not since I am paying for both packages to get it. If I don't get a satisfactory response I will be calling to get some type of credit. I mean, they have a dedicated channel for it so that is not the issue and I am paying them for the service so that ain't it, what gives?

Can pretty much guarantee we will not see the game on 94. Spoke to a manager at DirecTV after getting off the phone with YES. Manager was telling me channel 94 is not an active channel and has not been active. I told him to look on the guide for tonight and he said that it could not be possible that the channel is not active.....:confused: :confused:

They will never get it....will be calling customer retention tonight asking why I am paying for MLB EI and HDTV package and spent money on all this equipment to not get this programming?

I'm sure when MLB, the RSN's, and the "providers" put their heads to it we'll all have access to every HD event that airs.....as long as everyone gets paid!!!!

It's all about the Benjamins and it won't take "the powers that be" too long to figure out that they can get some more cash out of the little guy by putting together an HD package or something to that effect.

It is what it is.....blackouts shmackouts.....:mad:

Originally posted by Cowher36
from the YES Network and she says it is DirecTV's decision we are not getting the Yankees HD version of the games because it is out of market. I did mention I have the EI and HDTV package and she reiterated that it is DirecTV's decision........this sucks.:rolleyes:

Why the contradictory info from YES CSR's? Perhaps they are as "bad" as DirecTV CSR's? I would like the names and extensions of the sources so that the CSR's at YES can compare notes and see who is right, and correct those who are misinformed. Anyone have this info? Thanks.

Originally posted by Dinger23
I really hope the "hopefuls" are right but I do not see the Yankee games showing up out of market even with the ei package. INHD has the rights

Do you know if INHD has exclusive rights however?

Originally posted by Cowher36
Can pretty much guarantee we will not see the game on 94. Spoke to a manager at DirecTV after getting off the phone with YES. Manager was telling me channel 94 is not an active channel and has not been active. I told him to look on the guide for tonight and he said that it could not be possible that the channel is not active.....:confused: :confused:

They will never get it....will be calling customer retention tonight asking why I am paying for MLB EI and HDTV package and spent money on all this equipment to not get this programming?

That is insane. From what I gather - those in the NY market DO get YES HD right? If they do then they get it on Channel 94. And if they get it on Channel 94 then WE can get it on Channel 94. Let me ask this of others out there in the NY market - have you been getting YES HD on Channel 94 via D*? If the answer is yes then there is no reason why I shouldn't be getting that too except when the Yankees are playing the Red Sox (because I live in Mass and NESN would be my local RSN)

Yes

If that is true then what the manager told Cowher36 is Bullsh*t. ANd I'll be ready for their bullsh*t when I call them tonite if the game isn't on Channel 94 up here.

Of course we get it. Watched opening night and the picture was superb! Haven't had a chance to see it again because they've been day games. It shows up on the online program guide, go look at it.


Edit, here is the link for tonights game.

http://www.directv.com/DTVAPP/PopUpAction.do?program_id=4440477039&time_zone=est

Called DirecTV after seeing tonights game listed on ch. 94 in the guide to ask if I'd be able to see it. Told them I had the HD package and MLBEI. Was put on hold for 5 minutes or more. Was told that they were getting lots of calls about it, but that they didn't know if I would get it or not.

So glad I called, just like always.

Originally posted by igreg
Do you know if INHD has exclusive rights however?


No I am just guessing like everyone else. Make sense they have exclusive right. If you remember HDNet had the rights back in 2002 then MLB signed a deal with inhd. Why would you buy rights and not ask for exclusive?

Originally posted by LL3HD
I have no clue whether there is an agreement but in NYC we are getting YES HD on 708.

This has been for the Yankee live broadcasts—
no “re-wind”
no Nets

so far.

Here's the official announcement:

YESNetowkr.com

Time Warner Cable and YES Reach New Long-Term Carriage Renewal

YES Network’s High Definition Feed Now Available
To Time Warner Cable Customers

Stamford, CT and New York, NY, April 7, 2005 -- Time Warner Cable and YES Network (Yankees Entertainment & Sports Network, L.L.C.) Thursday announced the signing of a new long-term renewal. Time Warner Cable customers will continue to receive all New York Yankees and New Jersey Nets games available on the YES Network for the duration of the multi-year deal. The companies also agreed to add YES-HD, YES’ high definition feed, to Time Warner Cable’s high definition package.

The companies reached their agreement through one-on-one negotiations in time to deliver YES-HD for this year’s major league baseball season. All live home games of the Yankees and Nets will be carried in high definition on YES-HD, as well as Yankees match-ups with the Boston Red Sox and New York Mets. New York City area customers will find YES-HD on channel 708. Customers will receive YES-HD for no additional charge.

“We are pleased to provide our customers with guaranteed access to immensely popular sports programming,” said Barry Rosenblum, Time Warner Cable executive vice president. “The YES Network’s commitment to the New York sports fan is evident in the quality of their programming and in their new high def offering.”

“Time Warner Cable has again proven to be a fair and reasonable business partner,” said Ray Hopkins, YES Chief Operating Officer. “We are thrilled to provide Time Warner Cable customers with our state of the art high definition feed and to lock up our relationship for many years to come.”

In addition to the multi-year deal and high definition programming agreement, the companies settled various outstanding issues. No other terms of the agreement were made available.

Originally posted by rkunces


“Time Warner Cable has again proven to be a fair and reasonable business partner,” said Ray Hopkins, YES Chief Operating Officer. Unlike Cablevision, he seems to be saying.

Originally posted by DanC-P
Unlike Cablevision, he seems to be saying.

That's Jim Dolan for ya in a nutshell alright.

Originally posted by rkunces
Here's the official announcement:
Time Warner Cable and YES Reach New Long-Term Carriage Renewal

YES Network’s High Definition Feed Now Available
To Time Warner Cable Customers



WOO WHOO!

Great news!
Thanks for the post rkunces
and TW, thanks for the new HD channel.

Originally posted by Dinger23
No I am just guessing like everyone else. Make sense they have exclusive right. If you remember HDNet had the rights back in 2002 then MLB signed a deal with inhd. Why would you buy rights and not ask for exclusive?

You may ask but that doesn't mean you will receive or continue to receive exclusivity. For example, neither MLB or the NBA has exclusive rights to its season passes (SD). If I recall correctly, DirecTV had exclusive rights to the both at one time. And although DirecTV has exclusive rights to Sunday Ticket, exclusivity may end after the next contract. Also, its not like INHD carries a bid slate of games like the season passes. That being said, INHD could have exclusive rights; I just thought you may have knowledge that this is the case.

Originally posted by SonyHD
This doesn't have to be brain surgery! Why can't we get just get an Official announcement from MLB, YES Network or whoever else is responsible for not allowing DirecTV to show the YES broadcasts in HD on the MLB Extra Innings package? Because it doesn't work that way.

Originally posted by zoma4
Perhaps Lewbie expected that Ian would have found out an answer for him, rather than just saying that he didn't know. Let's remember that this was an email, not a phone call. Why on earth would Ian take the time to write back and say "I don't have any information" to a customer that is quite obviously frustrated with his situation and service? Perhaps Ian should find out what the hell is going on so he could report THAT to Lewbie, rather than waste Lewbie's time, and frustrate him more with a response like the one he gave. In fact, if Ian could not assertain the answer to the question that was asked, perhaps he could have told Lewbie who he could contact to get that answer.

Maybe Ian deserved to be trashed. And maybe your response about trashing Ian was out of line and uncalled for... You are missing the point.

Originally posted by Ken H
Because it doesn't work that way.

But someone has to have an answer somewhere - so far all we've gotten are Wizard of Oz type answers where they have told people they aren't showing it but won't say why. If YES HD is not on channel 94 here in Mass in about 5 min then I'll be calling D* to get an answer or they'll be giving me a large credit on my account.

I live in MD, so I'm blacked out of YES coverage no matter what today.

Anyone have an update on Channel 94 tonight?

I'm in Albany, NY and have YES HD from TWC but this game is not in HD. Don't know why?

Originally posted by Ken H
Because it doesn't work that way.

Okay, I'll bite...:p

How does it work then? Why is it so difficult for DirecTV to say, "No, you don't get it because (fill in the blank), or, "You should be getting it but because of (fill in the blank)".

There must be somebody in that organization that has an answer to the question. :)

Originally posted by ThePrisoner
I'm in Albany, NY and have YES HD from TWC but this game is not in HD. Don't know why?

That's not good. Why would that be? So you got the Boston series in HD, but not tonight?

Its not on in HD in Staten Island either. And I had the entire Red Sox series in HD.

Maybe a problem on YES's end.

We're getting today's game via TWC in S.Manhattan, although Staten Island, which got the first game in NYC while others weren't, wasn't getting it as of a few minutes ago. Think TWC just has to get its head end links in sync here. -- John

Here's my update - I live in Western Mass and have the MLB and HD packages so I maintain I should have the YES HD games except when the Yankees are playing in the Red Sox because then I'd be wtching NESN and blacked out on YES.

OK - I was on the phone for a 1/2 hour with D*. The first 10 min I was with a regular CSR and she put me on hold and had no idea what to tell me so she transferred me to HD dept.

I told them I was watching the game on Channels 622 (YES) and Channel 94 was blank but that my "cousin" in NJ gets the games on Channel 94. He put me on hold for 15 min and said that they were having a problem on their end and I SHOULD be getting the game on Channel 94 tonite. He said that he marked my account with the note that I shoud be getting the game and then said that they usually have this kind of thing ironed out within an hour or so. I told him I would call back if it was not on by 9:00pm.

Originally posted by Vuce
But someone has to have an answer somewhere - so far all we've gotten are Wizard of Oz type answers where they have told people they aren't showing it but won't say why.Not necessarily. You give these companies way too much credit.

In all likelihood, they are just figuring out the issues with blackouts and decided to error on the conservative side at the outset.

The system of determining and implementing blackouts is a lot more complicated that you may think.

Well, it's not the best picture cause it's from my camera phone, but all is working fine by me!

http://le108.tripod.com/Image014.jpg

Anyone who subscribes to the MLB Extra Innings package on DirecTV or Comcast, and lives outside the NY market, are you receiving the HD feed of YES? Would be interested if Comcast is offering the HD feed of YES on the MLB EI package.

I called again just now - because they told me it'd take about an hour to fix maybe - I spoke with Ivory and she told me that it was a nationwide problem with the HD feed - I told her I knew that not to be the case because two people I know are watching channel 94 with no problem.

I told her I would be calling back tomorrow as I believe that game is on too. She told me "they are working on it."

I think this thread's length is competing with the voom doomed thread :D

I'm getting the blue DirecTV logo screen and the music now, didn't have that before...

Why would you piss off your most dedicated fans that fork out money specifically for your product for MLB EI and why wouldn't you make that package an exemption--without negotiation?

Originally posted by Dinger23
Why would you buy rights and not ask for exclusive?

I don't buy it Ken. All they have to do is map the HD = SD and use the SD template that they've used for years and surely have tweaked by now. Of course, if the parties involved were stupid enough to allow the HD broadcasts to have different rules enforced, they deserve the cancellations they get over their short-sightedness.

Originally posted by Ken H
The system of determining and implementing blackouts is a lot more complicated that you may think.

I live in LA. I just spoke with a DTV Supervisor. He said that there is an 'inappropriate blackout' of channel 94 on my area. He said I SHOULD be getting it. He said I was the 4'th caller, and they needed 5 calls to ESCALATE the complaint to the next level, where he SAID it would ABSOLUTELY be resolved. SOMEBODY PLEASE CALL AND COMPLAIN!!!! As added incentive, he offered me a $25 refund/credit on my MLB Package.

CALL NOW. LET'S GET THIS RESOLVED!

Originally posted by stacy11
I live in LA. I just spoke with a DTV Supervisor. He said that there is an 'inappropriate blackout' of channel 94 on my area. He said I SHOULD be getting it. He said I was the 4'th caller, and they needed 5 calls to ESCALATE the complaint to the next level, where he SAID it would ABSOLUTELY be resolved. SOMEBODY PLEASE CALL AND COMPLAIN!!!! As added incentive, he offered me a $25 refund/credit on my MLB Package.

CALL NOW. LET'S GET THIS RESOLVED!

If he knows it an inappropriate blackout, why does he need 5 callers to do something about about....?

I've called 3 times now and got 3 different answers from the different CSRs. Now I have to move all the way to Connecticut.

I just got off the phone for the 3rd time in the last two days. Today I was on the phone for 40 minutes. They could not give me a good reason why it was blacked out. At the end of the conversation I was told that I should have it within the next day or so. Last night I was told by two different CSR's that it would be on within an hour or two and that they were working on it. But all of them have told me that I SHOULD be getting the channel eventually. I will be calling again tomorrow when the game is on.

I have been fighting a similar, blackout problem involving the KC Royals the past two years. I have called, written letters, to no avail. The Royals claim Arkansas but are being blacked out on their local RSN AND on Extra Innings in Arkansas, in essence we are blacked out in market and out of market.

A recent reply I got this week from D* corporate was a joke. The same spew the CSR's give.

I will not get into details about my situation since this is a HD forum, but from my experiences I doubt this channel will be available soon Both MLB and D* are behemoths who move very slowly......... I hope I am wrong......

Just got off the phone with a sup. I convinced him this was a problem after much threatening to switch to cable (I have a cousin in NY too watching the game on 94). I then asked to cancel my HD Pack and a 3rd receiver (SD, non-tivo). He offered me $5 off HDPack for 6 months and a free DVR to replace my receiver. So far this one issue has gotten me free MLBEI, $30 off of the HDPack, a $99 DVR, and a free month of SHOWTIME. I wonder what I can hold out for tomorrow when the game is blacked out again!

THAT'S JUST GREAT! You're part of the PROBLEM, not the SOLUTION....

Originally posted by smahon
Just got off the phone with a sup. I convinced him this was a problem after much threatening to switch to cable (I have a cousin in NY too watching the game on 94). I then asked to cancel my HD Pack and a 3rd receiver (SD, non-tivo). He offered me $5 off HDPack for 6 months and a free DVR to replace my receiver. So far this one issue has gotten me free MLBEI, $30 off of the HDPack, a $99 DVR, and a free month of SHOWTIME. I wonder what I can hold out for tomorrow when the game is blacked out again!

For what it's worth, I subscribe to EI and have also been calling D* this week regarding blackouts of channel 94. Last night I was told I should be receiving 94 and that they would look into why I was not. When I called today however, after speaking with supervisor, CSR indicated that 94 is only available to customers in YES DMA, out of market customers (even if EI subscribers) are not elgilble to receive YES HD.

move on

Maybe it's time to change this thread's heading to include the words "only in NYC DMA....." ?????


Since the "feeder" isn't working yet and all.... and D* CSR's can't seem to get their stories straight.....AND one hand doesn't seem to know what the other is doing.....or something like that....

:confused:

We have a group of very bright people on this forum. What is the best method for determining the status of out-of- market reception of the Yankees on YES? Any ideas to resolve the widely conflicting views?

Several reports have indicated out-of-market reception of YES should be present but that it is not active yet because of technical problems. This explanation has come from multiple sources giving it some credibility (if not true how would multiple sources come up with the same fairly specific answer?) Any ideas?

Originally posted by oscar51
For what it's worth, I subscribe to EI and have also been calling D* this week regarding blackouts of channel 94. Last night I was told I should be receiving 94 and that they would look into why I was not. When I called today however, after speaking with supervisor, CSR indicated that 94 is only available to customers in YES DMA, out of market customers (even if EI subscribers) are not elgilble to receive YES HD.

I received a similar answer except I then asked why I was able to watch YES (channel 622) for the Yankees games. I mean, they can't just say it is not available. WHY isn't it available? There are no blackout rules that I'm aware of and they can't cite any. I have spoken to 3 people who have told me I should be getting Channel 94 and eventually whether I get the channel or not, they will give me something for either lying to me or just plain making stuff up.

Funny story - the CSR I spoke with today told me his supervisor told him they are working on the problem - I then asked him his supervisor's name and there was a long pause - he said "ummmmm his name is Ray." I then asked Ray's last name and he said that he was new to the position and doesn't know last names yet.

HD on YES is way better than INHD, especially audio.
Good job, YES HD!

I mean baseball games.

Originally posted by Vuce
I received a similar answer except I then asked why I was able to watch YES (channel 622) for the Yankees games. I mean, they can't just say it is not available. WHY isn't it available?

This is the part that confuses me as well. Evidently, the answer is there must be separate rights issues for the HD feed as nothing else would make any sense.

Originally posted by keenan
This is the part that confuses me as well. Evidently, the answer is there must be separate rights issues for the HD feed as nothing else would make any sense.

I don't think there are but if there are they'll have to tell me that. Because the CSR's keep telling me that I should be able to watch the Yankees on MLB EI in the 700's but on on YES so I tell them that I have been watching them on 622 (YES) for the last 3 years and when the game goes off the channel blacks out. I told them that is exactly what would happen with Channel 94 and they can't answer the reason why - they put me on hold and come back and say they are working on it and I should be getting the channel - heard it from three different CSR's.

A supervisor told me the guide was wrong and that 94 was really a Starz HD testing channel and that no Yankee HD games have actually been broadcast on Direct TV.

I kid you not, that is what I was told. Unreal.

Originally posted by bigcat
I spoke with 2 CSRs , two separate calls.

First one was totally clueless, he said 94 is a distant network channel that I am not supposed to watch

Second one said I am not getting 94 because MLB EI currently does not offer any HD channels. She recommended NBA and NFL games for HD, seriously, what an idiot. When I asked why was that channel on the guide, she said it must be a mistake.

This is from POST #423. So much anger at D*, but could the 2nd CSR that bigcat talked to actually have known the truth. It would make sense that MLB EI doesn't have HD channels. Only NY DMA has an HD channel for Yankee games. Maybe the 2nd CSR was smarter than given credit for.

Also http://www.directvsports.com/Subscriptions/MLBExtraInnings/Schedule/ makes no mention of HD games being available. Seems like NFL ST games in HD had channels listed...hmmmm...maybe MLBEI's fault?

hello, i am new to this MB. I live in New Mexico and i am also a yankee fan. i can see the games on 622 - YES SD but 94 is blacked out. i have been calling DTV every game every day. today i got a better answer. DTV told me that 94 is currently being shown only in the yankees select local areas like newyork and so on. its also a test channle for the moment and that soon it should be available to all who suscribe to MLBEI. i agree with all of you that there is no reason to be receiving YES SD and not in HD even if you live way out in the southwest like i do. i hope this helps. KEEP CALLING DTV to expidite this situation

audiomagnate, can you explain how to change the service address online? I can't see any option to change it. It seems to me you can only change the mailing address online, not the service address. I could be blind though.

Originally posted by audiomagnate
You should do it on-line, change your service address to a NY address but keep you mailing address the same. No, you can't keep your Philly locals. There's a limit.

DAMMIT!! You mean all this time when I was watching open day crying and moaning I was just a click away from watching the opening day in HD?!?!?!?!?!? I'm SO PISSED right now. Wait a minute, I forgot, all the HD channels were locking up that day anyway. I HATE COMCAST. THEY DON'T TELL YOU SQUAT! They got that stupid "message" feature on and don't even use it. All I get is Wrestlemania ads. Ass-backwards company :(

Originally posted by totalownership
DAMMIT!! You mean all this time when I was watching open day crying and moaning I was just a click away from watching the opening day in HD?!?!?!?!?!? I'm SO PISSED right now. Wait a minute, I forgot, all the HD channels were locking up that day anyway. I HATE COMCAST. THEY DON'T TELL YOU SQUAT! They got that stupid "message" feature on and don't even use it. All I get is Wrestlemania ads. Ass-backwards company :(

Sounds like a good time to consider switching to DIRECTV.

-Robert

VE Advanced Digital Technologies Dealer

Originally posted by DTV TiVo Dealer
Sounds like a good time to consider switching to DIRECTV.

-Robert

VE Advanced Digital Technologies Dealer

Why, so he can be blacked out with the rest of us??? :p

Seriously though Robert, you started all of this... :) Any chance your contacts within D* can provide you a clearer answer as to whether the out-of-market situation is permanent or just temporary? Intentional/Unintentional? Something out of their hands? Even that they're aware of it but are just unable to comment would be better than the contradictory misinformation that their CSRs are currently providing.

Thanks,
Jim

Nah, that would be too easy...besides, isn't this much more fun? :p :D

Since no one person has a reasonable explanation at this time, why dont we pick a specific day and time to all call D* or whatever phone number we deem appropriate. Maybe a few hundred calls at once would get some attention. And yes there will be some busy signals but it will be worth it.

How about today at 1:05pm when today's game is not on. Otherwise we'll have to wait for the next Yankees home game.

Why don't you guys accept reality, already?

1 - DirecTV has never claimed that HD broadcasts were part of MLBEI.

2 - There is precedent with the NBA package that they may carry HD RSN games without giving them to the League Pass subscribers.

3 - There is a reason they're not giving YESHD to us out of market EI subscribers, whether we understand it or not.

4 - They don't owe us an explanation of that reason, since they never said they would give it to us.

5 - CSRs are not informed about the situation, nor are they empowered to change it. It's not fair to harrass them the way you're doing.

Relax, and enjoy the games today. Let it go!

Originally posted by tbb1226
Why don't you guys accept reality, already?

1 - DirecTV has never claimed that HD broadcasts were part of MLBEI.

2 - There is precedent with the NBA package that they may carry HD RSN games without giving them to the League Pass subscribers.

3 - There is a reason they're not giving YESHD to us out of market EI subscribers, whether we understand it or not.

4 - They don't owe us an explanation of that reason, since they never said they would give it to us.

5 - CSRs are not informed about the situation, nor are they empowered to change it. It's not fair to harrass them the way you're doing.

Relax, and enjoy the games today. Let it go!

No, but D* has chosen the CSR's as the first line to make complaints to. If you are unhappy with a service, you voice your displeasure.

If D* doesn't feel they owe their customers an explanation and does not feel the need to inform their customers about the situation, I can still complain and use my pocketbook to try and make a difference.

It's astounding to me that D* would list the channel nationwide in the HD section of the guide and then not expect to get asked why everybody in the nation other than NY, is being blacked out

We could accept it as this is how it is, but since we get YES on 622, it's not really a good precedent to not get it in HD. After all, HD will be the only TV in due time.

There may be a reason, but it's not a rights-to-the-game issue because we're getting that.

Since broadcast networks, when broadcasting HD, don't charge anything for the HD simulcast, it should stand to reason that we should get HD baseball when available. If you pay for MLB IE and the HD package and an HD game that you can see SD is available, it seems as though you should get the game.

I guess I'd like to see the attitude of providers moving more toward HD being a reasonable expectation when available and not a premium option available through extra fees for games that are already being produced for the local market.

Originally posted by EAW
A supervisor told me the guide was wrong and that 94 was really a Starz HD testing channel and that no Yankee HD games have actually been broadcast on Direct TV.

I kid you not, that is what I was told. Unreal.

Wow, does this mean we will be getting StarzHD soon?

Originally posted by tbb1226
Why don't you guys accept reality, already?

1 - DirecTV has never claimed that HD broadcasts were part of MLBEI.

2 - There is precedent with the NBA package that they may carry HD RSN games without giving them to the League Pass subscribers.

3 - There is a reason they're not giving YESHD to us out of market EI subscribers, whether we understand it or not.

4 - They don't owe us an explanation of that reason, since they never said they would give it to us.

5 - CSRs are not informed about the situation, nor are they empowered to change it. It's not fair to harrass them the way you're doing.

Relax, and enjoy the games today. Let it go!

Sounds to me like you might work for D*; or even perhaps a parent of one of their CSRs. :p

channel 94 came up with the yes network in HD for about 5 seconds here in new mexico but then it was blacked out... ill be caling again even if it is just to anoy them. DTV works for us. we pay their bills and they must provide us with services we want. especially when it is as simple as flipping a switch so that all who have the HD package and MLBEI can watch the Yes NEtwork in HD. everyone who is interested should call right now.


also, did i read correctly that some one in colorado is watching the yes network in HD??????????

Originally posted by Lewbie
Sounds to me like you might work for D*; or even perhaps a parent of one of their CSRs. :p Nope, he's just telling it like it is, with the exception of calling the CSR's, which I strongly recommend.

Ken, don't know if you have any contacts, but does the magic 8 ball have anything to say about Cablevision picking up YES-HD in my lifetime?

Does Comcast offer YES HD to those outside of the NY/NJ area? Or does any cable company offer YES HD to those outside the NY/NJ area?

Bottom line is this - one of you told us to stop "harassing" the CSRs. To be honest I just called them to find out why it was being blacked out and three different people said that it should not have been. People HERE are making a case for why it should be blacked out. Excuse me for going to the people who WORK for DirectV to get some answers and SHAME on them for making stuff up or not knowing it at all.

I'm watching the Yankees now in HD on INHD2 although it say Discoveries:America is supposed to be on. WTF! Almost missed it AGAIN today.

EDIT: Yesterday I "discovered" I now have Starz-HD and WPIX-HD. I can always tell when they are doing something to the service.... cable reception and internet is usually F'ed up for a few days before.

Originally posted by Vuce
Does Comcast offer YES HD to those outside of the NY/NJ area? Or does any cable company offer YES HD to those outside the NY/NJ area? Not to my knowledge, I know I'm not.

Bottom line is this - one of you told us to stop "harassing" the CSRs. To be honest I just called them to find out why it was being blacked out and three different people said that it should not have been. People HERE are making a case for why it should be blacked out. Excuse me for going to the people who WORK for DirectV to get some answers and SHAME on them for making stuff up or not knowing it at all. No apology necessary, just ignore the bad advice. Feel free to call with legitimate issues as you see fit, I know I do.

If I were a DirecTV EI sub, I'd be calling, e-mailing, writing too.

Does anyone on this forum have phone numbers of DirecTV corporate representatives who we can contact who may bring us a more informed response than the CSR's? Thanks.

Web site feedback
Snail mail
CSR

Calling other DirecTV numbers will not serve any purpose.

By the way, if you're not already aware, DirecTV reads this forum on a regular basis.

i just got off the phone with a CRS from DTV. she told me that if the home team dosent sell enough tickets to make enough money to broadcast the game in HD then they wont broadcast it... please tell me, when was the last time the yankees DIDNT make enough money for anything???? more BS from DTV.

Originally posted by rick_q
i just got off the phone with a CRS from DTV. she told me that if the home team dosent sell enough tickets to make enough money to broadcast the game in HD then they wont broadcast it... please tell me, when was the last time the yankees DIDNT make enough money for anything???? more BS from DTV. What a surprise.

Instead of expecting a real answer, which at this point is very, very, unlikely, simply say this: "I sub to Extra Innings. I get the Yankee game on ch 7**. I should be able to get the same game on ch 94, in HDTV. Please pass along my comment to someone who can help me."

Originally posted by Ken H
Web site feedback
Snail mail
CSR

Calling other DirecTV numbers will not serve any purpose.

By the way, if you're not already aware, DirecTV reads this forum on a regular basis.

What information do you have on who at DirecTV reads this forum? Curious that representatives from DirecTV read this forum but refuse to comment on the pages and pages of complaints presented regarding this issue. At the very least the representatives at DirecTV who read this forum should be contacting management to ensure that its customer service representatives can respond to our questions regarding out of market reception of the Yankees in HD. Too much to ask? Thanks.

Originally posted by igreg
What information do you have on who at DirecTV reads this forum? Curious that representatives from DirecTV read this forum but refuse to comment on the pages and pages of complaints presented regarding this issue. At the very least the representatives at DirecTV who read this forum should be contacting management to ensure that its customer service representatives can respond to our questions regarding out of market reception of the Yankees in HD. Too much to ask? Thanks.

Obviously you are relatively new at AVS. This prior comment of mine explains it as well as possible:

Here is some information that may be of value to you. AVS is the most popular home theater forum on the Internet. We get over 41 million unique page views per month. I have been the HDTV Moderator for going on 5 years. In that time, we have grown into 'the place to be for HDTV', referenced frequently by home theater magazines and by most other Internet HT sites. I have been interviewed for articles in newspapers like The New York Times, the Washington Post, and many others. In addition to having direct participation by industry members ranging from local TV engineers to HD network owners on the forum, I also receive information on a daily basis about HD networks and program providers that I'm asked to pass along to the forum. In many cases, this information comes from TV executives at the highest levels of the industry.

Based on past experience, it's not curious at all that DirecTV is not commenting on this issue.

Originally posted by rick_q
i just got off the phone with a CRS from DTV. she told me that if the home team dosent sell enough tickets to make enough money to broadcast the game in HD then they wont broadcast it... please tell me, when was the last time the yankees DIDNT make enough money for anything???? more BS from DTV. I used the wrong term, but this is sort of what I meant earlier about "harrassing" the CSRs. We all know that they are not informed nor authorized to promise anything to us in this regard. No need to keep running them down in public.

So, by all means, keep calling to ask for the channel, if you can't live without. I just don't understand why you keep getting angry when they don't immediately turn it on or explain why not in terms you deem satisfactory. Or, why you keep coming here to post about your fruitless conversations.

If and when they come through with YESHD out of market, we'll have something new to discuss....

Originally posted by Ken H
Obviously you are relatively new at AVS. This prior comment of mine explains it as well as possible:

Here is some information that may be of value to you. AVS is the most popular home theater forum on the Internet. We get over 41 million unique page views per month. I have been the HDTV Moderator for going on 5 years. In that time, we have grown into 'the place to be for HDTV', referenced frequently by home theater magazines and by most other Internet HT sites. I have been interviewed for articles in newspapers like The New York Times, the Washington Post, and many others. In addition to having direct participation by industry members ranging from local TV engineers to HD network owners on the forum, I also receive information on a daily basis about HD networks and program providers that I'm asked to pass along to the forum. In many cases, this information comes from TV executives at the highest levels of the industry.

Based on past experience, it's not curious at all that DirecTV is not commenting on this issue.

Ken, you left out my name in this overview. I assume it was just a oversight? ;)

-Robert

Ve Advanced Digital Technologies Dealer

When I called today, the CSR blamed the blizzard. What will they think of next?

The frustrating part is the CSRs not simply saying they don't know the answer; they make excuses which are obviously not true and that is not appropriate.

Originally posted by rick_q
i just got off the phone with a CRS from DTV. she told me that if the home team dosent sell enough tickets to make enough money to broadcast the game in HD then they wont broadcast it... please tell me, when was the last time the yankees DIDNT make enough money for anything???? more BS from DTV.

Way to go, D*
Nicely done, D* :)

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Originally posted by rick_q
i just got off the phone with a CRS from DTV. she told me that if the home team dosent sell enough tickets to make enough money to broadcast the game in HD then they wont broadcast it... please tell me, when was the last time the yankees DIDNT make enough money for anything???? more BS from DTV.
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tbb1226
I used the wrong term, but this is sort of what I meant earlier about "harrassing" the CSRs. We all know that they are not informed nor authorized to promise anything to us in this regard. No need to keep running them down in public.

So, by all means, keep calling to ask for the channel, if you can't live without. I just don't understand why you keep getting angry when they don't immediately turn it on or explain why not in terms you deem satisfactory. Or, why you keep coming here to post about your fruitless conversations.

If and when they come through with YESHD out of market, we'll have something new to discuss....

I didnt harrass anyone, i called the CSR at DTV and thats the answer they gave me... thats the end of my conversation with them... i only added HERE on the message board that the answer they gave me was BS. i wasnt rude or curt to the CSR. i didnt say anything about their mother. I asked a question, they gave me answer and the answer they gave me was BS. the yankees are the richest team in all of sports. give me a break.

Huh? What "past experience"? Why would they not give us a reason, or at least tell us to contact the party responsible. They are just making themselves look bad being mum on it, and it is highly unlikely that D* is the reason for the issue. I guess there is a chance they were offered the ability to offer HD as part of EI and declined because it would have cut into their margins (I don't suppose MLB EI is a loss leader like NFL ST is).

Originally posted by Ken H
Based on past experience, it's not curious at all that DirecTV is not commenting on this issue.

Ken, would it possible for you to make a call to a D*" EXEC" to find out the real deal ? Then we will have a real answer. THANKS IN ADVANCE

Originally posted by rick_q
i just got off the phone with a CRS from DTV. she told me that if the home team dosent sell enough tickets to make enough money to broadcast the game in HD then they wont broadcast it... please tell me, when was the last time the yankees DIDNT make enough money for anything???? more BS from DTV.

As far as I know this isn't an MLB policy. This is an NFL blackout rule. If a game isn't sold out 72 hours before game time it may not be available to local viewers. Very few NFL games don't sell out. Team owners will often buyout remaining tickets to insure getting their game televised in the local market. I remember as a kid living in Chicago in the 70s. Quite a few Bears games were not available locally.

Originally posted by traderrich
Ken, would it possible for you to make a call to a D*" EXEC" to find out the real deal ? Then we will have a real answer. THANKS IN ADVANCE

Did you not read Ken H's comments 8 posts up?

Originally posted by HofstraJet
The frustrating part is the CSRs not simply saying they don't know the answer; they make excuses which are obviously not true and that is not appropriate.

BINGO. Everyone comes up with a different explanation, which in turn gets posted here, and then more confusion arises from the fact that some of us believed that what a D* employee said on the D* customer service line was actually true. Are WE at fault for believing what they tell us?

This thread is hilarious and sad at the same time.

It makes me remember middle school. I'm expecting someone to start running for "class president"... oops, I mean, "forum president"... on the promise that we'll have better lunch in the cafeteria, longer recess, and soda machines in every classroom... oops, I mean... HD on every channel, no commercials, DirecTV CSR's with PhD's in engineering and customer service, and forum moderators who have 25 hours per day to do nothing but give every person the answer that they are looking for.

It is just TV.

Originally posted by JasonATL
This thread is hilarious and sad at the same time.

It makes me remember middle school. I'm expecting someone to start running for "class president"... oops, I mean, "forum president"... on the promise that we'll have better lunch in the cafeteria, longer recess, and soda machines in every classroom... oops, I mean... HD on every channel, no commercials, DirecTV CSR's with PhD's in engineering and customer service, and forum moderators who have 25 hours per day to do nothing but give every person the answer that they are looking for.

It is just TV.

What's even sadder is people who complain about people complaining in a thread.

If you don't like it move on, don't worry about what other people may be interested or concerned about.

Let's play nice, folks...and not let this deteriorate into one of "those" threads...

DirecTV, we just want an answer, please. A reasonable explanation of whether or not we'll get YES HD if we're HD & EI subscribers, and if we are supposed to get it, when. Pretty simple.

A disconnected die hard Yankees fan in Colorado (but still happy to get at least the YES net in SD) (FOR NOW...)

:cool:

I hate to stray off topic of the out of market folks-

But I noticed something positive on Directv Last night. The first few games- they shut the channel down very close to the end of the game- I think they let it go till the guy for the post game show started from the studio but they miught have even nuked off het announcers wrap up.

Anyhow last nights (or should I say Yesterday’s game that I Tivo’d and watched last night)- they keep the channel up until the post game show was over.

That’s PERFECT if you have a tivo. It records the HD game and then gets the SD upconvert of the postgame so you don’t have to create a huge overlapping recording of the SD channel just to get the postgame.

Originally posted by michaelk
That’s PERFECT if you have a tivo. It records the HD game and then gets the SD upconvert of the postgame so you don’t have to create a huge overlapping recording of the SD channel just to get the postgame.

Yeah, because you wouldn't want to miss the YES Network's hard-hitting postgame coverage when one slurping sycophantic announcer (you listening Michael 'Greatest Game Ever!' Kay?) turns to the other to talk about how wonderful the Yankees are, even after they've been waxed. A more useless hour on TV is difficult to find.

Originally posted by sangs
Yeah, because you wouldn't want to miss the YES Network's hard-hitting postgame coverage when one slurping sycophantic announcer (you listening Michael 'Greatest Game Ever!' Kay?) turns to the other to talk about how wonderful the Yankees are, even after they've been waxed. A more useless hour on TV is difficult to find.

Spoken like a true Mets fan...what's their record now...1 and 5????


:D

Originally posted by Mikey_C
Spoken like a true Mets fan...what's their record now...1 and 5????


:D

Mets in HD looks good today :) Especially the groundscrew field work.

Originally posted by sangs
Yeah, because you wouldn't want to miss the YES Network's hard-hitting postgame coverage when one slurping sycophantic announcer (you listening Michael 'Greatest Game Ever!' Kay?) turns to the other to talk about how wonderful the Yankees are, even after they've been waxed. A more useless hour on TV is difficult to find.

I guess you don't have to watch any TV shows/sports if you don't like them. Just like after I tried very hard to watch Mets' 2nd game this season, I know I won't watch them anymore this year, HD or not. :)

Originally posted by sangs
Yeah, because you wouldn't want to miss the YES Network's hard-hitting postgame coverage when one slurping sycophantic announcer (you listening Michael 'Greatest Game Ever!' Kay?) turns to the other to talk about how wonderful the Yankees are, even after they've been waxed. A more useless hour on TV is difficult to find.

You have no idea what a "homer" announcer sounds like do you. They are just as biased as Met announcers. I'm not the biggest Michael Kay fan but he does a pretty good job compared to most announcers for MLB teams. I love baseball though and love Willie and would love to see him flourish at shea. Yes, even Pedro after all, Who's your daddy pedro? :D

ohhh please, Fran Healy must have polaroids of Jim Dolan , the worse announcer in history of sports broadcasting

Originally posted by dapope
ohhh please, Fran Healy must have polaroids of Jim Dolan , the worse announcer in history of sports broadcasting

I never said Healy wasn't awful, he is. If I could have him bounced from the Mets booth, I would in a minute. And even as a Mets fan, I hardly ever watch their love fest postgames either. I want analysis I turn to ESPN, not a local RSN featuring team employees. So who's your daddy now boys? No favoritism here, just calling it like it is.

And if anybody thinks Michael Kay is a good broadcaster, you really, really need a history lesson on what makes a good broadcaster. For instance, here's Kay during Mike Stanton's first appearance with the Yanks this season. "He is such a great addition to the bullpen. The fact is, the Mets used him incorrectly last year." The fact, Mike, is that the Mets brought in Stanton to help protect leads late in the game. I guess if they were expecting him to hold leads then, yes, he was used incorrectly.

Oh and the Mets are 2-5 now. And in about 20 minutes, when the Yanks are finished getting pasted again, they'll be 3-4. That's one game for all you Yankees math majors out there.

Originally posted by sangs
I never said Healy wasn't awful, he is. If I could have him bounced from the Mets booth, I would in a minute. And even as a Mets fan, I hardly ever watch their love fest postgames either. I want analysis I turn to ESPN, not a local RSN featuring team employees. So who's your daddy now boys? No favoritism here, just calling it like it is.

And if anybody thinks Michael Kay is a good broadcaster, you really, really need a history lesson on what makes a good broadcaster. For instance, here's Kay during Mike Stanton's first appearance with the Yanks this season. "He is such a great addition to the bullpen. The fact is, the Mets used him incorrectly last year." The fact, Mike, is that the Mets brought in Stanton to help protect leads late in the game. I guess if they were expecting him to hold leads then, yes, he was used incorrectly.

Oh and the Mets are 2-5 now. And in about 20 minutes, when the Yanks are finished getting pasted again, they'll be 3-4. That's one game for all you Yankees math majors out there.

Not in Kay's defense but merely an overstatement but, Art Howe and Peterson probably the pitchers as poorly as any team in baseball last year. The rediculous 5th inning and out philosophy they used was astrocious and it showed. Stanton wasn't that great for the Mets I agree but the Mets did a pathetic job with placing the right matchups and keep pitchers who'd been in a rythm all game and take them out early because their pitch count was high.

Not to mention this was the team that traded away Kazmir for Zambrano.

Originally posted by sangs
I never said Healy wasn't awful, he is. If I could have him bounced from the Mets booth, I would in a minute. And even as a Mets fan, I hardly ever watch their love fest postgames either. I want analysis I turn to ESPN, not a local RSN featuring team employees. So who's your daddy now boys? No favoritism here, just calling it like it is.

And if anybody thinks Michael Kay is a good broadcaster, you really, really need a history lesson on what makes a good broadcaster. For instance, here's Kay during Mike Stanton's first appearance with the Yanks this season. "He is such a great addition to the bullpen. The fact is, the Mets used him incorrectly last year." The fact, Mike, is that the Mets brought in Stanton to help protect leads late in the game. I guess if they were expecting him to hold leads then, yes, he was used incorrectly.

Oh and the Mets are 2-5 now. And in about 20 minutes, when the Yanks are finished getting pasted again, they'll be 3-4. That's one game for all you Yankees math majors out there.

My friends and i call Stanton 'the spot", he's terrible, and i was glad to see him go 3 years ago, it is a bad move bringing him back

Fran Healy is as good at broadcasting as he was at playing. He sounds like Jimmy Olson from the old Superman television show. Golly gee Lois, was that a base hit?

Michael Kay was perfect on the radio partnered with John Strerling. They had good banter. Kay talks too much for TV and is always two clicks behind. That is ok on radio when you can’t see the action but on TV when the outcome of a play is apparent, he’s still spewing adjectives, long after the play is visibly over. And the interlocking "N" "Y’s" sounded dandy on the radio, it comes across as childish when repeated game after game on TV.

Enjoy the HD pq on YES. Audio is great too. Haven’t found the center channel audio too low as some have expressed. Sadly miss Eddie Layton’s great musical fill ins.

Originally posted by LL3HD
...Sadly miss Eddie Layton’s great musical fill ins.


Since we're wandering- isnt it amazing that Eddie Layton and the Robert Merril that used to sing the national anthem both passed away But Bob Sheperd is still alive and well? (knock on wood) That guy is the voice of the Yankees, but man he's getting up there.

I noticed that John Sterling is doing more and more of the transitions and promos on the YES network.

Originally posted by michaelk
...Bob Sheperd is still alive and well? (knock on wood) That guy is the voice of the Yankees, but man he's getting up there.


Yeah, Bob Shepard is awesome, one of the greatest voices in sports history. There was a nice little piece on him in the Wall St Journal last week.

And the interlocking "N" "Y’s" sounded dandy on the radio
Don't forget 'No name ............................................................ ......................................, of course'
:D

of course

Originally posted by michaelk
Since we're wandering- isnt it amazing that Eddie Layton and the Robert Merril that used to sing the national anthem both passed away But Bob Sheperd is still alive and well? (knock on wood) That guy is the voice of the Yankees, but man he's getting up there.

I noticed that John Sterling is doing more and more of the transitions and promos on the YES network.

I can't believe he still does Giants games as well. The best in the biz he is.

Originally posted by rkunces
I can't believe he still does Giants games as well. The best in the biz he is.

I'm a Mets fan but in the late 80's we went to a lot of yankee games because the tickets were easier to get. In the back of my mind I always hear him announcing #23 Don Mattingly and get a chill every time. If I could get YES-HD I would crank down the announcers in the center channel and just enjoy the Yankee Stadium atmosphere (not including the daily 7th inning fan brawl or awful upper deck sight lines but a rousing chorus of Box Seats Suck is always welcome).

Originally posted by sangs
Oh and the Mets are 2-5 now. And in about 20 minutes, when the Yanks are finished getting pasted again, they'll be 3-4. That's one game for all you Yankees math majors out there.

With all due respect, I don't think Mets' record in this season will be even close to Yanks'. It's lucky for them if they still play meaningful games in Sep.

Originally posted by nywst
With all due respect, I don't think Mets' record in this season will be even close to Yanks'. It's lucky for them if they still play meaningful games in Sep.

Never said they would. But the Yankees lover was attacking the Mets (at that point) 1-5 record, which isn't much better than the Yanks right now. I prefer to wait until the All-Star Break to even start worrying about my teams' records though, but I didn't want to stray from the fray.

I don't understand why any Yankee fans are rooting against Willie Randolph. New York baseball is less a rivarly now than ever.

Originally posted by sangs
Never said they would. But the Yankees lover was attacking the Mets (at that point) 1-5 record, which isn't much better than the Yanks right now. I prefer to wait until the All-Star Break to even start worrying about my teams' records though, but I didn't want to stray from the fray.
Yanks fans shouldn't attack Mets, at least I don't think so.
What's for, btw? If Yank fans REALLY have guts, you should hope and wish Yanks can KO Boston this season, which I still don't think it will heal the pain of experience from 3-0 to 3-4.

Originally posted by nywst
Yanks fans shouldn't attack Mets, at least I don't think so.
What's for, btw? If Yank fans REALLY have guts, you should hope and wish Yanks can KO Boston this season, which I still don't think it will heal the pain of experience from 3-0 to 3-4. The Yanks look old and tired. I think their ageing stars have hit the brick wall. Jeter and Arod are the only stars still at their peak. The Sox will repeat with no problem. Having said that, I applaud the class the Yanks showed yesterday during the Sox ring ceremony. And I especially applaud Mariano's reaction to the standing O the Sox fans gave him.

Originally posted by Benji
The Yanks look old and tired. I think their ageing stars have hit the brick wall. Jeter and Arod are the only stars still at their peak. The Sox will repeat with no problem. Having said that, I applaud the class the Yanks showed yesterday during the Sox ring ceremony. And I especially applaud Mariano's reaction to the standing O the Sox fans gave him.

Sox repeat? I think that's only what Sox fans think.
It's too early to tell. Even before last year's ALCS, how many Sox fans predicted they would be down 0-3?

Originally posted by nywst
Sox repeat? I think that's only what Sox fans think.
It's too early to tell. Even before last year's ALCS, how many Sox fans predicted they would be down 0-3? Tomorrow night's game will tell a lot. If Curt Schilling is back to 2004 form, the Sox will roll in 2005. If not, all bets are off.

I think it's still too early to tell. Players might get injured during the season.
YES HD really has excellent PQ, but I don't think it will be in HD tomorrow night.

Just had to call D* for an unrelated billing problem. Spoke with a retention line rep after the billing issue was resolved regarding whether or not he'd fielded many calls about the Yankee games in HD only being available to NYC DMA subs via Channel 94. He said he hadn't taken one call about it...and he hadn't heard any of his co-workers/supevisors mention it either! I told him as a NYC area sub it didn't impact me...but I *thought* it would've made more sense for D* to put some info on their website regarding just who is/isn't eligible for the coverage on the Special Events channel. He (not surprisingly) wasn't aware of all the hubub.

Heck, he even stated that to his knowledge there was no YES-HD feed available to ANYONE on D* and it was all news to him!....and all those MLB EI subs nationally were getting the YES games in "Digital quality" anyway so it shouldn't be that big of a deal to them since they can still see the game.....:eek:

And, he said if they *thought* they were going to get the YES-HD games because they paid for the HD package....well everyone knows that a RSN isn't included in the package....!!!

Wow. Me thinks this is a non-issue over in D* land.....:confused:

But he did comment about the Spaceway sats being up by the end of the year which would lead to even MORE HD programming for the masses....but we all knew that anyway... :D

Great job, D*!! :)

Originally posted by jaypb
Just had to call D* for an unrelated billing problem. Spoke with a retention line rep after the billing issue was resolved regarding whether or not he'd fielded many calls about the Yankee games in HD only being available to NYC DMA subs via Channel 94. He said he hadn't taken one call about it...and he hadn't heard any of his co-workers/supevisors mention it either! I told him as a NYC area sub it didn't impact me...but I *thought* it would've made more sense for D* to put some info on their website regarding just who is/isn't eligible for the coverage on the Special Events channel. He (not surprisingly) wasn't aware of all the hubub.

Heck, he even stated that to his knowledge there was no YES-HD feed available to ANYONE on D* and it was all news to him!....and all those MLB EI subs nationally were getting the YES games in "Digital quality" anyway so it shouldn't be that big of a deal to them since they can still see the game.....:eek:

And, he said if they *thought* they were going to get the YES-HD games because they paid for the HD package....well everyone knows that a RSN isn't included in the package....!!!

Wow. Me thinks this is a non-issue over in D* land.....:confused:
Bing. Keep those cards and letters coming.

Originally posted by jaypb
Just had to call D* for an unrelated billing problem. Spoke with a retention line rep after the billing issue was resolved regarding whether or not he'd fielded many calls about the Yankee games in HD only being available to NYC DMA subs via Channel 94. He said he hadn't taken one call about it...and he hadn't heard any of his co-workers/supevisors mention it either! I told him as a NYC area sub it didn't impact me...but I *thought* it would've made more sense for D* to put some info on their website regarding just who is/isn't eligible for the coverage on the Special Events channel. He (not surprisingly) wasn't aware of all the hubub.

Heck, he even stated that to his knowledge there was no YES-HD feed available to ANYONE on D* and it was all news to him!....and all those MLB EI subs nationally were getting the YES games in "Digital quality" anyway so it shouldn't be that big of a deal to them since they can still see the game.....:eek:

And, he said if they *thought* they were going to get the YES-HD games because they paid for the HD package....well everyone knows that a RSN isn't included in the package....!!!

Wow. Me thinks this is a non-issue over in D* land.....:confused:

But he did comment about the Spaceway sats being up by the end of the year which would lead to even MORE HD programming for the masses....but we all knew that anyway... :D

Not surprising. I bet if you bring up the issue of out of market availability of the Yankees in HD only 1 in 50 will even understand what they heck you are talking about without you having to explain it, and then only 1 in 20 understanding it after you explain it, and zero being able to give you an explanation.

For those of us in Cablevision land.......

Spoke to a relatively knowledgeable CSR last night at Cablevision (I know, that's an oxymoron) while ordering the Extra Innings package. She said that a good 50% of calls over the past week to her department have been to request/demand YES HD.

She said that her supervisor informed them that Cablevision was "in discussions" with YES, and that what she was supposed to tell everyone was that "Cablevision is working hard to provide additional HD choices to their customers". Not sure if I believe the former, though I have no real issue to date with Cablevision's ability to provide a decent offering in HD.

However......Not sure how I can go a full season without the Yanks in HD, when everyone one else in the region has access. I need to dig a trench for D*, and I was going to wait for the new sats to get up before I overhauled my setup. But this could be the last straw.

Anyone with more info than I on the Cablevision front?

Originally posted by Benji
Tomorrow night's game will tell a lot. If Curt Schilling is back to 2004 form, the Sox will roll in 2005. If not, all bets are off.

You're basing the entire 2005 season on how Schilling pitches tonight? What if he lays a stinkburger tonight but is fine by May? I don't want anyone jumping off the Tobin in April.

Originally posted by gold23
For those of us in Cablevision land.......

Spoke to a relatively knowledgeable CSR last night at Cablevision (I know, that's an oxymoron) while ordering the Extra Innings package. She said that a good 50% of calls over the past week to her department have been to request/demand YES HD.

She said that her supervisor informed them that Cablevision was "in discussions" with YES, and that what she was supposed to tell everyone was that "Cablevision is working hard to provide additional HD choices to their customers". Not sure if I believe the former, though I have no real issue to date with Cablevision's ability to provide a decent offering in HD.

However......Not sure how I can go a full season without the Yanks in HD, when everyone one else in the region has access. I need to dig a trench for D*, and I was going to wait for the new sats to get up before I overhauled my setup. But this could be the last straw.

Anyone with more info than I on the Cablevision front?

yeah, I'm sure CV is working hard to get YES-HD, just in the same way that CV is working hard to get MSG and FSNY back on the Time Warner systems :D