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gold23
04-13-05, 11:08 AM
Well, that comparison isn't really accurate. I hate Cablevision as much as the next guy- Dolan is an absolute ass. However, Cablevision isn't losing any customers because they don't have MSG and FSNY on TWC. That's TWC's problem. Not saying Cablevision is right (most of our knowledge and experience points to CV usually being wrong), but that there is no real reason for them to care much about not having their nets on TWC- at least from a subscriber standpoint.

However, if they start losing subs to D* because of a lack of YES in HD, that would mean a little more. It's not going to be a mass exodus, but it would resonate more than the TWC debacle.

chrisb3
04-13-05, 11:46 AM
Originally posted by gold23
Well, that comparison isn't really accurate. I hate Cablevision as much as the next guy- Dolan is an absolute ass. However, Cablevision isn't losing any customers because they don't have MSG and FSNY on TWC. That's TWC's problem. Not saying Cablevision is right (most of our knowledge and experience points to CV usually being wrong), but that there is no real reason for them to care much about not having their nets on TWC- at least from a subscriber standpoint.

However, if they start losing subs to D* because of a lack of YES in HD, that would mean a little more. It's not going to be a mass exodus, but it would resonate more than the TWC debacle.

Well, maybe not customers, but viewership numbers and ad revenue and subscription revenues.

CV is losing millions every month that FSNY & MSG aren't on TWC systems (actually the stations that are losing the $$$, but since they're owned by CV it's all the same pot in the end).

Also because of the smaller # of viewers on the channels, ad revenues go down too as advertisers will either not want to advertise or demand lower rates.

Benji
04-13-05, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by JMMHouston
You're basing the entire 2005 season on how Schilling pitches tonight? What if he lays a stinkburger tonight but is fine by May? I don't want anyone jumping off the Tobin in April. I would never jump off the Tobin. Too much traffic on the expressway getting up there. A person could get killed in that mess.

Mikey_C
04-13-05, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by jaypb
Just had to call D* for an unrelated billing problem. Spoke with a retention line rep after the billing issue was resolved regarding whether or not he'd fielded many calls about the Yankee games in HD only being available to NYC DMA subs via Channel 94. He said he hadn't taken one call about it...and he hadn't heard any of his co-workers/supevisors mention it either! I told him as a NYC area sub it didn't impact me...but I *thought* it would've made more sense for D* to put some info on their website regarding just who is/isn't eligible for the coverage on the Special Events channel. He (not surprisingly) wasn't aware of all the hubub.

Heck, he even stated that to his knowledge there was no YES-HD feed available to ANYONE on D* and it was all news to him!....and all those MLB EI subs nationally were getting the YES games in "Digital quality" anyway so it shouldn't be that big of a deal to them since they can still see the game.....:eek:

NEWS FLASH...D* wins the JD Powers award for customer **cough** **cough* service again!

:D

rkunces
04-13-05, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by gold23
Well, that comparison isn't really accurate. I hate Cablevision as much as the next guy- Dolan is an absolute ass. However, Cablevision isn't losing any customers because they don't have MSG and FSNY on TWC. That's TWC's problem. Not saying Cablevision is right (most of our knowledge and experience points to CV usually being wrong), but that there is no real reason for them to care much about not having their nets on TWC- at least from a subscriber standpoint.

However, if they start losing subs to D* because of a lack of YES in HD, that would mean a little more. It's not going to be a mass exodus, but it would resonate more than the TWC debacle.

Those may be concerns at some other time but right now CVC has a big chunk of land on the lower east side that they have their minds on first. Not having the Knicks or Rangers playing any playoff games sure as hell hurts as well. CVC needs that Adelphia territory real bad right now because at this point they cannot rely on NYC alone what with the lower east side transaction pending and Comcast and TWC forming a bit of alliance to try and alienate CVC as much as possible by taking any even more content from CVC's sports lineup.

chrisb3
04-13-05, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by rkunces
Those may be concerns at some other time but right now CVC has a big chunk of land on the lower east side that they have their minds on first.

lower east side? Do you mean the west side stadium? That's a done deal. CV lost.

bigcat
04-13-05, 09:50 PM
do you know if the game against Boston is currently on on channel 94? Friend of mine in NY is getting blacked out? is that because of ESPN2?

SteveK2
04-13-05, 10:56 PM
It was on bright and clear on D* channel 94 until about 45 minutes ago when the game ended.

barbie845
04-14-05, 04:38 AM
Speaking of the Mets. While watching a Met game I notice an ad that stated the Met HD games are ONLY avaliable on cable..Why is that?

Is that because D* and Dish can't(because of bandwidth limits) carry the HD games or because MSG/CV won't allow the sat companies to carry the games in HD..

lowmazda
04-14-05, 08:11 AM
MSG/Fox Sports NY needs to change that line to 'Only available on Cablevision'. They've been using that for a while and we all know they'll do anything to keep that ace up their sleeve.

jaypb
04-14-05, 08:17 AM
Not sure if anyone saw it, and don't mean to hijack this thread, but at opening day a GIANT Cablevision ad out behind the fence got "stuck" and wouldn't close. It was a GIANT photo of Martinez and had the words MSG-HD and Cablevision-HD....game had to be delayed as they draped a GIANT sheet over the ad:

MSG-HD/Cablevision-HD (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050411/483/nygb10504112137)

Funny stuff.... (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050411/ids_photos_sp/r101720711.jpg)

NorthJersey
04-14-05, 11:40 AM
something tells me that the BOS/NYY game tonight on ESPNHD will be blacked out in the NY/NJ area, correct ? In a perfect world it would be a nationwide exclusive, but I can only hope. I don't expect CV to carry YESHD until either pigs fly or TWC and Comcast buy CV from the Dolans

nywst
04-14-05, 11:51 AM
I think the game tonight is only available on YESHD in NY/NJ.

DownPat
04-14-05, 12:25 PM
The game tonight is national on ESPN HD. Just like the Sunday night game. It's promoted via the schedule on their web site.

lowmazda
04-14-05, 12:30 PM
Tonight's game on ESPN is not like a Sunday night game. It's not exclusive to ESPN. Viewers in Boston & NY will have to watch on their RSN's. Viewers outside those markets will be able to watch on ESPN. INHD is also going to carry the game which is just the NESN feed. On a Sunday night the only place to tune in to the game would be ESPN.

DownPat
04-14-05, 02:14 PM
Interesting, thanks for the info.

I'm just glad I'll be able to watch it.

chrisexv6
04-14-05, 02:57 PM
Pardon the ignorance if the answer is somewhere in the monster thread, but I havent been able to read thru every page.....

I noticed last night that the Yanks/RedSox game was on YesHD. I was under the impression that the only games in HD on YesHD would be Yankee home games. has this changed? Or did it just happen to be in HD because its Yanks/Red Sox?

Thanks!!
-Chris

PDPnNJ
04-14-05, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by chrisexv6
Pardon the ignorance if the answer is somewhere in the monster thread, but I havent been able to read thru every page.....

I noticed last night that the Yanks/RedSox game was on YesHD. I was under the impression that the only games in HD on YesHD would be Yankee home games. has this changed? Or did it just happen to be in HD because its Yanks/Red Sox?

Thanks!!
-Chris

Yeah, I was surprised as well. Fenway is wired for HD and perhaps they used the NESN HD feed for last night's game. It looked mighty good I must add.

chrisexv6
04-14-05, 03:15 PM
Yeah, I was thinkin that about the NESN feed as well, but I wasnt sure if that was possible. The fact that it looked exactly like the Yankee home games started me wondering if perhaps YES has mobile equipment.

Either way it was doubly nice........HD, and the Yanks won :) Im looking forward to tonight. And maybe beyond, if Yes is really taking their HD on the road.

-Chris

michaelk
04-14-05, 03:23 PM
The schedule was posted by ken someplace- I think in the 2nd or 3rd post.

All the home games plus a handful of games at fenway and I believe shea with the Mets will be HD.

PDPnNJ
04-14-05, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by michaelk
The schedule was posted by ken someplace- I think in the 2nd or 3rd post.

All the home games plus a handful of games at fenway and I believe shea with the Mets will be HD.

Right on,

2005 YES Network Yankees HD Schedule

April 3 BOSTON 8:05
April 5 BOSTON 1:05
April 6 BOSTON 1:05
April 8 BALTIMORE 7:05
April 9 BALTIMORE 1:05
April 10 BALTIMORE 1:05
April 11 at Boston 3:05
April 13 at Boston 7:05
April 14 at Boston 7:05
April 18 TAMPA BAY 7:05
April 19 TAMPA BAY 7:05
April 23 TEXAS 1:05
April 24 TEXAS 1:05
April 26 ANAHEIM 7:05
April 27 ANAHEIM 7:05
April 28 ANAHEIM 7:05
April 30 TORONTO 1:05

May 1 TORONTO 1:05
May 7 OAKLAND 1:05
May 8 OAKLAND 1:05
May 9 SEATTLE 7:05
May 10 SEATTLE 7:05
May 11 SEATTLE 1:05
May 22 at New York (NL) 1:10
May 24 DETROIT 7:05
May 25 DETROIT 7:05
May 27 BOSTON 7:05

June 14 PITTSBURGH 7:05
June 15 PITTSBURGH 7:05
June 16 PITTSBURGH 7:05
June 19 CHICAGO (NL) 1:05
June 20 TAMPA BAY 7:05
June 21 TAMPA BAY 7:05
June 22 TAMPA BAY 1:05
June 23 TAMPA BAY 7:05
June 24 NEW YORK (NL) 7:05
June 25 NEW YORK (NL) 4:05

July 4 BALTIMORE 1:05
July 5 BALTIMORE 1:05
July 7 CLEVELAND 7:05
July 9 CLEVELAND 4:05
July 10 CLEVELAND 1:05
July 14 at Boston 7:05
July 26 MINNESOTA 7:05
July 27 MINNESOTA 7:05
July 28 MINNESOTA 1:05
July 31 ANAHEIM 1:05

Aug. 8 CHICAGO (AL) 7:05
Aug. 9 CHICAGO (AL) 7:05
Aug. 10 CHICAGO (AL) 1:05
Aug. 11 TEXAS 7:05
Aug. 13 TEXAS 1:05
Aug. 14 TEXAS 1:05
Aug. 22 TORONTO 7:05
Aug. 23 TORONTO 7:05
Aug. 24 TORONTO 7:05
Aug. 25 TORONTO 1:05
Aug. 27 KANSAS CITY 1:05
Aug. 28 KANSAS CITY 1:05

Sept. 6 TAMPA BAY 7:05
Sept. 7 TAMPA BAY 7:05
Sept. 8 TAMPA BAY 7:05
Sept. 11 BOSTON 1:05
Sept. 19 BALTIMORE 7:05
Sept. 20 BALTIMORE 7:05
Sept. 21 BALTIMORE 7:05
Sept. 22 BALTIMORE 7:05
Sept. 24 TORONTO 1:05
Sept. 25 TORONTO 1:05

Oct. 2 at Boston 2:05

All times at ET & subject to change.

JMMHouston
04-14-05, 03:41 PM
Is YES HD available in Connecticut where YES is the local RSN?

chrisexv6
04-14-05, 03:43 PM
Seems to be. I was worried because Im in CT but not the county that is *officially* part of the NY DMA. But alas, YES-HD has been airing since the beginning of the season.

-Chris

optivity
04-14-05, 03:44 PM
I got to watch the YES-HD broadcast where the Yankees (the finest Baseball team that money can buy) chased Curt Schilling from the mound, during their 5 - 2 win, at Fenway last night.

It just doesn't get any better than that!:D

barbie845
04-14-05, 05:48 PM
MSG/Fox Sports NY needs to change that line to 'Only available on Cablevision'


The ad,yeah even the ad that got stuck at Shea :) stated HD was only avaliable on CABLE,not just CV...So are other cable providers carrying MSG/Fox Sports in HD? Or is it only CV..And is that why the sat companies aren't carrying MSG in HD? CV is locking them out?

kevin86
04-14-05, 07:04 PM
Does anyone have any info about Comcast in CT? I'm in New Britain and last week I got YES-HD on channel 381 and this week I am getting NESN-HD on the same channel. I just called Comcast and they said that by the end of the month the YES network will be gone for good due to "FCC Regulations" Is this true?

Can someone please give me some info!! Thanks a lot!

rkunces
04-14-05, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by kevin86
Does anyone have any info about Comcast in CT? I'm in New Britain and last week I got YES-HD on channel 381 and this week I am getting NESN-HD on the same channel. I just called Comcast and they said that by the end of the month the YES network will be gone for good due to "FCC Regulations" Is this true?

Can someone please give me some info!! Thanks a lot!

I don't have Comcast but its true. I believe only New Haven County qualifies for both NY and Boston RSNs. Every other county in CT is allocated to either Boston or New York.

jluzbet
04-14-05, 08:04 PM
:D :D :D

rkunces
04-14-05, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by jluzbet
:D :D :D

Were you able to "move" online or through a CSR.

kevin86
04-14-05, 08:47 PM
Originally posted by rkunces
I don't have Comcast but its true. I believe only New Haven County qualifies for both NY and Boston RSNs. Every other county in CT is allocated to either Boston or New York. Do you have anymore info on it? Is there a map of the area's? I can't believe that I am not going to be able to watch the Yanks this year? Is there a date when this goes into effect? Thanks!!

Satori84
04-14-05, 09:14 PM
Re: ESPN vs INHD (Yanks at Sox tonight)

In our area, this game is on right now on both ESPN-HD and INHD1 (via TWC/South Carolina). Looks like there are two mobile units because the home plate shots look slightly different (side by side position in the outfield?)

More interesting would be if the ESPN coverage is in their std native 720p and the INHD (which may well be rebranded Yes feed) in in 1080i native? Anybody know any technical details about the coverage tonight that can confirm this or not?

Both feeds are great but I prefer INHD as they don't clutter the screen with all those graphics. (lol)

Mike

bgall
04-14-05, 09:17 PM
INHD is using the NESN Feed, which is 1080i

ESPN is doing their own production in 720p.

I dunno if YES is sharing with NESN or whether they are also doing their own production also in 1080i

Satori84
04-14-05, 09:20 PM
bgall-

Thanks for the quick post!

I'm going to go try some A-B comparisons to see if there is any discernible PQ/motion artifact difference. (Disclaimer: watching on a Pio PRO-1120 which is theoretically better at progressive than interlaced).

trekkerj
04-14-05, 09:27 PM
As a NY Cablevision customer, let me reiterate how disgusted I am that you have the option to compare TWO hd broadcasts of this game, and I am forced to watch in sd.

rkunces
04-14-05, 09:30 PM
Atleast you get to watch the Mets in HD which BTW tonight looks awful. There are a ton of video problems going on. Thank goodness for D*

Satori84
04-14-05, 09:45 PM
Some other (slight) edges for the INHD/NESN feed:

*In DD 5.1 (vs Prologic on ESPN), according to my receiver
*Better framed (most shots) for 16:9/HD. Looks like ESPN is shooting for the 4:3 feed and oh by the way you HD folks get what you get.
*More interesting camera positions, like the high shot from along the first base line. Don't think I've seen that one before!
*No commercials!

Trekkerj-not gloating, but it IS a bit unusual to be able to see the same live event in BOTH formats with two different directors calling the shots. Great stuff!!

trekkerj
04-14-05, 10:02 PM
I know, I'm just venting, it's absurd. Cablevision also controls parts of the Bronx, so there are customers who lives within blocks of Yankee Stadium who cannot get the game in HD. Doesn't make any sense.

keenan
04-14-05, 10:04 PM
Looks like Sheffield was venting as well with that idiot fan...:p

CKNA
04-14-05, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by rkunces
I don't have Comcast but its true. I believe only New Haven County qualifies for both NY and Boston RSNs. Every other county in CT is allocated to either Boston or New York.

There is no allocation by county in CT. All of CT get NYY, NY Mets and Red Sox as a these three teams claim CT as their home market. Baseball markets are different from TV DMA's.

CKNA
04-14-05, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by bgall
INHD is using the NESN Feed, which is 1080i

ESPN is doing their own production in 720p.

I dunno if YES is sharing with NESN or whether they are also doing their own production also in 1080i

Yes is doing their own production. They just share some cameras with NESN for distant shots.

rkunces
04-15-05, 12:06 AM
Originally posted by CKNA
There is no allocation by county in CT. All of CT get NYY, NY Mets and Red Sox as a these three teams claim CT as their home market. Baseball markets are different from TV DMA's.

Then why isn't Fairfield County able to recieve NESN?

shadowbox
04-15-05, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by barbie845
So are other cable providers carrying MSG/Fox Sports in HD? Or is it only CV..And is that why the sat companies aren't carrying MSG in HD? CV is locking them out?

Currently the only place to get MSG/FSN-NY HD is on CV. And you can't even get MSG or FSN-NY SD if you live in the city and have TWC. If you believe the ads/propaganda, CV says it's all Time-Warners fault. Interesting how when Cablevision cut off YES it was all YES's fault because they wanted too much money. Now that TWC says CV wants too much money for MSG/FSN-NY it's all TWCs fault. When in reality it is all sour grapes because TWC-Comcast is starting a Mets sports station in 2006. In 2006 it will probably be the opposite. CV customers won't get the new Mets RSN and CV will complain that TWC wants too much money. And TWC will blame CV for pulling the plug. It's a mess. And sooner or later the government is going to have to step in to protect consumers. I'm not all that into government regulation of everything. Not all content needs to be regulated. But if there is only one way to get local sports, then everyone in that locality should be able to see it if they choose. Especially in NYC where it is difficult for many to get D* or E* if they want. Their only choice is TWC.

rkunces
04-15-05, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by Mikey_C
Does anyone know if tonight's game against the Orioles will be on HD, its not on the list of YESHD games???

Next HD game is against the DRays on Monday.

jaypb
04-15-05, 10:15 AM
Came across this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=5481433#post5481433) in another thread regarding NESN coverage on MLB EI. Seems like an answer I would have *expecedt* to hear from a D* CSR from THE BEGINNING regarding why YES_HD wasn't available outside of the NYC DMA. Maybe this is the party line now??? :confused:

Nah, it's probably just more conjecture from an uninformed CSR...especially the part about the additional HD events on channel 94 (though that did catch my eye.....:p )

michaelk
04-15-05, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by trekkerj
As a NY Cablevision customer, let me reiterate how disgusted I am that you have the option to compare TWO hd broadcasts of this game, and I am forced to watch in sd.

Can you get Directv and show cablevision the error of their ways?

Star ledger had an article about cablevision in the business section yesterday. Said they lost 80,000 subs when they refused to carry SD yes last time around. Assuming they only made $50 a sub from those people they threw away 50 MILLION dollars in annual income over their first spat.

They could get YES-HD tomorrow, but I wouldn’t hold me breath.

trekkerj
04-15-05, 10:58 AM
If I could, I would have switched a couple of years ago with the first YES debacle. Unforunately, I don't have the option.

lionsfan
04-15-05, 11:19 AM
I know this has nothing to do with the YES network but my guide on my HD tivo shows on WED 4/20 channel 95 A's @ Mariners and says MLD Extra Innings

jaypb
04-15-05, 11:33 AM
Originally posted by lionsfan
I know this has nothing to do with the YES network but my guide on my HD tivo shows on WED 4/20 channel 95 A's @ Mariners and says MLD Extra Innings

From Fox Sports NW regional website (http://msn.foxsports.com/regional/northwest?workingCategory=270)


"FSN AND DIRECTV TO PRESENT MARINERS BASEBALL IN HDTV
FSN and DIRECTV will present Seattle Mariners baseball in high-definition television (HDTV). The first of 40 Mariners games in HDTV will debut on Wednesday, April 20th at 7pm when the Mariners take on the Oakland Athletics. All of the live games are available to DIRECTV customers on viewer channel 95 throughout the Northwest region, which includes Washington, Oregon and parts of Montana, Idaho and Alaska."

Edit: It states above where the games will be airing. Would've been nice if YES/Directv had done the same for Yankee fans.

Does this appear anywhere on D*'s site?

mcd4959
04-15-05, 11:49 AM
Has anyone noticed a slight change on Ch 94's listing of the DRays - Yanks HD telecast on Monday?

On my menu and info screens, there is now a "PPV" icon listed next to the HD icon. This wasn't there for all the YES HD games that have been telecast previously (which I have not gotten, depsite being a Total Choice Premier, HD Package, local channels, TiVo, and MLB EI subscriber - but I digress...)

Just a curiosity at this point, but it makes you wonder...is D* going to come up with yet another way to bleed us from our cash? Hey, I'm a die-hard Yankee fan, but I don't have George's $$$$$!!! I'm paying well over $100 a month without even considering EI, and making this stuff PPV would just be too much.

Still waiting for an explanation DirecTV - I thought it was posted that they actually read these forums. It's 2 weeks into the season, and you can't give us an answer?????

WEAK!

nywst
04-15-05, 12:56 PM
Don't think so.
But I like your banner. :)

brewer4
04-15-05, 01:14 PM
Uh does that include the tasteless outfielder that actually threw a punch, helped knock over a women and spilled a beer? Of course, the worst offense was the beer spillling.

brewer4
04-15-05, 01:25 PM
What is interesting is that the same video can be viewed multiple ways. The key is, Sheffield should not have reacted like that. If he got brushed, finished the play, then went back to complain, he would look like the saint. Instead, he reacted, and helped worsen the situation.

sangs
04-15-05, 02:35 PM
Have you ever spent nine innings watching a game at The Stadium? Trust me, the Red Sox fans have not cornered the market on classlessness. In fact, I'd venture to guess they've watched and learned everything they know from their Bronx brethren.

keenan
04-15-05, 02:44 PM
And neither of them were in the same league as Raider fans back when they were at the LA Coliseum...:p

nywst
04-15-05, 02:52 PM
Boston fans (not just baseball fans) are good at attacking opposing teams' players.

3-4 yrs ago, some Boston Celtics fans threatened the life of Jason Kidd's wife and kid during NBA playoff season. I don't think this happened before in US pro sports history. Only in Boston. btw, Boston lost that series.

Yanks fans have every right to even the match in next month.

sangs
04-15-05, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by keenan
And neither of them were in the same league as Raider fans back when they were at the LA Coliseum...:p

Or for that matter any fan of any sport in Philly.

michaelk
04-15-05, 03:11 PM
Originally posted by sangs
Have you ever spent nine innings watching a game at The Stadium? Trust me, the Red Sox fans have not cornered the market on classlessness. In fact, I'd venture to guess they've watched and learned everything they know from their Bronx brethren.

To be truthful, I wont bring my children to The Stadium when the Yanks play the Sox. It no longer is a family sport at those games. Funny thing is I honestly believe the Red Sox fans are more aggressive even in the Bronx- with the exception of the right field bleachers. The right field bleacher folks certainly can hold their own (I long for the days when you could walk up and get a right field bleacher sit and stretch out and enjoy the fun- now its insane- they actually have season tickets back there). But if you are in a medium grade seat the sox fans can be downright unpleasant.

I think most of the issue at Fenway is the riff raff can get too close to the players in right field or the bullpen. At Yankee Stadium there is a 20 foot concrete wall you need to jump down from the cheap seats.

sangs
04-15-05, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by michaelk
To be truthful, I wont bring my children to The Stadium when the Yanks play the Sox. It no longer is a family sport at those games. Funny thing is I honestly believe the Red Sox fans are more aggressive even in the Bronx- with the exception of the right field bleachers. The right field bleacher folks certainly can hold their own (I long for the days when you could walk up and get a right field bleacher sit and stretch out and enjoy the fun- now its insane- they actually have season tickets back there). But if you are in a medium grade seat the sox fans can be downright unpleasant.

I think most of the issue at Fenway is the riff raff can get too close to the players in right field or the bullpen. At Yankee Stadium there is a 20 foot concrete wall you need to jump down from the cheap seats.

I brought my son to a Yanks-Mets game at the Stadium. It was the first and last time. And we had good, pricey seats. Having said that, I love going to The Stadium. But it's not a family friendly place anymore - at least during night games. I've been to about a dozen games at Fenway decked out in Mets gear and never had a problem. I won't wear my Mets stuff to the Stadium though. I may be arrogant, but I'm not stupid.

Cudahy
04-15-05, 03:30 PM
Directv lists the Seattle-Oakland game as an Extra Innings game. They have not listed any of the YES games on 94 that way. As an Extra Innings game it should be available to subscribers in the rest of the country.

jaypb
04-15-05, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Cudahy
Directv lists the Seattle-Oakland game as an Extra Innings game. They have not listed any of the YES games on 94 that way. As an Extra Innings game it should be available to subscribers in the rest of the country.

I'd be surprised if it was available to ANYONE outside of the NW area on channel 94...say way I would've been surprised if the YES_HD games were available on D* outside of the NYC DMA.

IIRC, all the games on channel 94 (YES-HD games) with the exception of the opening Sunday night game were listed in the EI package.

:confused:

michaelk
04-15-05, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by sangs
I brought my son to a Yanks-Mets game at the Stadium. It was the first and last time. And we had good, pricey seats. Having said that, I love going to The Stadium. But it's not a family friendly place anymore - at least during night games. I've been to about a dozen games at Fenway decked out in Mets gear and never had a problem. I won't wear my Mets stuff to the Stadium though. I may be arrogant, but I'm not stupid.

Now that you bring it up- the mets games are very ugly.

One a couple years ago I was in the right field nosebleeds and there was a dad with his young son all decked out in his mets gear. The fans weren’t really out of hand like during a red sox game where everyone is cursing at each other, etc. But they were being loud and cheering really loud against the mets. I think the Ynaks were up by a decent amount and the crowd was chearing ‘casue piazza struck out with men on and I looked over and the poor kid was crying. That’s when I thought- I really need to pick which games I bring my boys to. No one was insane but it was just so tough on the little guy.

Also- wearing a Mets cap to Fenway is hardly an indicator of how the fans there act when the Yanks pull in. There isn’t any hatred I’m aware of the mets. On at least one occasion the sportswriters in fenway had to get security to eject fans who were out of hand with players wives. I cant imagine someone at Yankee stadium who paid tens of thousands of dollars to get a season ticket under the screen were the wives sit being so rude that they would have to be removed- I could be wrong but I really find that over the top.

michaelk
04-15-05, 03:57 PM
Originally posted by Cudahy
Directv lists the Seattle-Oakland game as an Extra Innings game. They have not listed any of the YES games on 94 that way. As an Extra Innings game it should be available to subscribers in the rest of the country.


The thread about DBS forums has the press release from the provider and it only says the local viewing area will get the game.

So I’d keep your fingers crossed but wouldn’t get your hopes too high.

Baldone01
04-15-05, 04:02 PM
If you didn't happen to notice in an earlier post, Fox Sports Net released the following statement:

"FSN AND DIRECTV TO PRESENT MARINERS BASEBALL IN HDTV
FSN and DIRECTV will present Seattle Mariners baseball in high-definition television (HDTV). The first of 40 Mariners games in HDTV will debut on Wednesday, April 20th at 7pm when the Mariners take on the Oakland Athletics. All of the live games are available to DIRECTV customers on viewer channel 95 throughout the Northwest region, which includes Washington, Oregon and parts of Montana, Idaho and Alaska."

Only in the NW, just as the YES HD games are shown only in the NY DMA.

I'd love to be able to view the channel 94 YES HD games as well, but I ain't holdin' my breath.

smartass1235
04-15-05, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by CKNA
There is no allocation by county in CT. All of CT get NYY, NY Mets and Red Sox as a these three teams claim CT as their home market. Baseball markets are different from TV DMA's.

i live in new haven county. have comcast, which is suppose to be broadcasting yes hd over inhd2. problem is we dont have inhd2 back yet. and nesn hd broadcasts over inhd1, as has yes hd to this point. so if there are any comcast guru's around here i would be interested to know what is going to happen when the sox and yanks each have seperate home games? .

brewer4
04-15-05, 05:32 PM
Here's what so funny about the reactions to the altercation. A fan did not attack Gary. He got brushed incidentily or intentionally it does not matter. I think the issue is there is soo much bad blood on BOTH sides that it makes any situation the potential to explode. Any other game wouldnt turn into this mess. I also agree I would not bring my kids to a Red Sox/Yankee game in either park.

I dont want to see any player or fan hurt for goodness sake. I just think both the players and fans need to show restraint rather than retaliation every time (does not mean its battery time in New York now)!! Of course, thats easier said than done.

On the bright side, people in Boston/NY metro area can see it in HD!! ;-)

goflerace2
04-16-05, 05:39 PM
Originally posted by optivity
I got to watch the YES-HD broadcast where the Yankees (the finest Baseball team that money can buy) chased Curt Schilling from the mound, during their 5 - 2 win, at Fenway last night.

It just doesn't get any better than that!:D

It was a lot better last fall. I am surprised that you are so excited about a game in APRIL!!!!

If the Sox had beaten, say, Mussina last fall and a Sox fan had bragged about that, I am positive that a Yankee fan would have referred back to game 7 of the 2003 ACLS. Interesting how someone's perspective changes.

Gary

No team in MLB has ever gone down three games to zip in the playoffs and come back to win....oh, except once!

motjes2
04-18-05, 09:29 AM
Hey, hope someone can verify what I am seeing. I tried to schedule the game last night and this morning on channel 94 --- Yankees vs Devil Rays in HD but it was slated as a PPV event and when I hit the purchase information, it stated that there was no purchase information and therefore I could not schedule the game to be recorded. Anyone seeing this or is it just me?

smahon
04-18-05, 10:43 AM
Originally posted by motjes2
Hey, hope someone can verify what I am seeing. I tried to schedule the game last night and this morning on channel 94 --- Yankees vs Devil Rays in HD but it was slated as a PPV event and when I hit the purchase information, it stated that there was no purchase information and therefore I could not schedule the game to be recorded. Anyone seeing this or is it just me?

I saw this same exact thing happen just once with NFLST. All the HD games for a particular Sunday were PPV. I think this happened on the second Sunday of the season. Someone probably keyed in the wrong special event code.

motjes2
04-18-05, 10:46 AM
Did it get cleared by the time the game was on?

michaelk
04-18-05, 10:51 AM
I dont know why Directv cant just put up the darn schedule for the next 2 weeks like they do with all the other channels. THis nonsense of one game at a time- really screws up the DVR concept. My season passs so far has nailed all but one game but the one that it choked on their last minute screwing around gave me the dreaded tivo error 4 and my box screwed the pooch and recorded ntohing for a day and a half later until i noticed it.

The error 4 seems to come from last minute guide changes so unless they get on the ball, i'm afraid it's going to cause more and more.

smahon
04-18-05, 11:08 AM
Originally posted by motjes2
Did it get cleared by the time the game was on?

As I recall, I had to use a manual recording to get the game(s) I wanted. I complained quite a bit to my (unsympathetic) wife.

motjes2
04-18-05, 12:22 PM
Thanks I'll try that.

smahon
04-18-05, 12:52 PM
BTW, tomorrow night's Devil Rays game is listed as "MLB HD", leading me to speculate that it is a MLBEI available game. Perhaps the tide has changed in NY harbor. BTW, I can set recordings for channel 94 (in fact my wish list caught them) but I am seeing this PPV crap on channel 95.

nywst
04-18-05, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by goflerace2
It was a lot better last fall. I am surprised that you are so excited about a game in APRIL!!!!

If the Sox had beaten, say, Mussina last fall and a Sox fan had bragged about that, I am positive that a Yankee fan would have referred back to game 7 of the 2003 ACLS. Interesting how someone's perspective changes.

Gary

No team in MLB has ever gone down three games to zip in the playoffs and come back to win....oh, except once!

Simple,
Sox choked in 2003
Yanks choked in 2004.

bigcat
04-18-05, 06:32 PM
It has been "MLB HD" since day 1

Originally posted by smahon
BTW, tomorrow night's Devil Rays game is listed as "MLB HD", leading me to speculate that it is a MLBEI available game. Perhaps the tide has changed in NY harbor. BTW, I can set recordings for channel 94 (in fact my wish list caught them) but I am seeing this PPV crap on channel 95.

smahon
04-18-05, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by bigcat
It has been "MLB HD" since day 1

Ya' know, as soon as I posted this I wondered if that was the case. Thanks for drowning my hope :(

Steve Wright
04-18-05, 07:14 PM
No HD for tonights game here in East Brunswick. Did I miss something or did someone forget to flick the switch?

RLVTEC
04-18-05, 07:20 PM
same here in Toms River, NJ

nywst
04-18-05, 07:24 PM
No YES HD also tonight. Comcast.

what about D*?

RLVTEC
04-18-05, 07:32 PM
ok i guess my loca comcast office got alot of calls its on 207 sweet!!!!!!

nywst
04-18-05, 07:36 PM
Called local comcast, the guy gave me BS.

nywst
04-18-05, 07:39 PM
Now HD is on.
Someone forgot to flick the switch, I guess.

RLVTEC
04-18-05, 07:49 PM
the hits keep coming 8-0 yanks

trekkerj
04-18-05, 08:21 PM
I have no HD either. Oh, wait, I have Cablevision. Never mind.

jluzbet
04-18-05, 08:28 PM
No HD on DTV , wtf is going on ... calling them right now:mad:

rkunces
04-18-05, 09:40 PM
Great to see Arod hitting against the stinkin DRays but not Boston or O's :(

seldenpat
04-18-05, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by rkunces
Great to see Arod hitting against the stinkin DRays but not Boston or O's :(

Gee...I think I was thinking the same thing the instant you posted this! At least he got one of his HR's to give them the lead in the 2nd. Usually he hits when they're up or down by a bunch.

rkunces
04-18-05, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by seldenpat
Gee...I think I was thinking the same thing the instant you posted this! At least he got one of his HR's to give them the lead in the 2nd. Usually he hits when they're up or down by a bunch.

It was great to finally win but its certainly not as satisfying when you're playing the DRays and at home. This is jus so George doesn't go into cardiac arrest and murders somebody. Hopefully though his comments made a difference and their offensive fire power will continue. Let's just hope to see some stinkin' pitching.

seldenpat
04-18-05, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by rkunces
It was great to finally win but its certainly not as satisfying when you're playing the DRays and at home. This is jus so George doesn't go into cardiac arrest and murders somebody. Hopefully though his comments made a difference and their offensive fire power will continue. Let's just hope to see some stinkin' pitching.

TRUE

igreg
04-19-05, 12:24 AM
Finally an answer from DirecTV on this whole mess? From antoher thread on this forum:


quote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Originally posted by beachrez
Here is a message that was received from DirecTV within the past 48 hours:



"Thank you for asking about the YES Network’s HD broadcasts of Major League Baseball games. Due to agreements between the YES Network and Major League Baseball, the YES Network does not have the rights to deliver the HD feeds of games to customers who live outside YES Network's home market. Viewers who subscribe to MLB Extra Innings outside of the YES Networks home market will still receive the standard definition feeds in the MLB Extra Innings channels.


During the 2005 season we will be expanding our regional HD coverage beyond the YES network to offer a variety of games on channel 94. The details are still being worked out so please stay tuned to DIRECTVSPORTS.com/mlb for the latest information as it becomes available."
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My response:


Finally an answer!!! So it's the fault of "YES" and "MLB"? Anyone care to speculate why YES has the "rights" to deliver SD feeds to customers who live outside of the YES Network's home market, but not the "rights" to deliver the HD feed?

Is it that MLB is charging a higher price if a RSN wants to deliver a national HD feed, and YES did not buy the rights for national broadcast, or did MLB decide it just didn't want to grant HD rights beyond the New York DMA? Opinions?

Not a good precedent when copyright owners are saying, "sure, you can broadcast our product with clearer picture and sound, but you have to pay us extra $$$ if you want to deliver our product in this manner, even though you are spending all your own money to buy the equipment to deliver a better product to your customers". What 's next for MLB, "Oh, we almost forgot, we're going to charge you a few more million if you want to deliver that game in Dolby Digital 5.1 sound."

keenan
04-19-05, 02:38 AM
Originally posted by igreg


Not a good precedent when copyright owners are saying, "sure, you can broadcast our product with clearer picture and sound, but you have to pay us extra $$$ if you want to deliver our product in this manner, even though you are spending all your own money to buy the equipment to deliver a better product to your customers". What 's next for MLB, "Oh, we almost forgot, we're going to charge you a few more million if you want to deliver that game in Dolby Digital 5.1 sound."

Welcome to the brave new world of Pay-HDTV.

michaelk
04-19-05, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by igreg
...


Finally an answer!!! So it's the fault of "YES" and "MLB"? Anyone care to speculate why YES has the "rights" to deliver SD feeds to customers who live outside of the YES Network's home market, but not the "rights" to deliver the HD feed?...


actually it makes sense- Yes and the Yankees have the rights to the local market SD or HD.

You can get teh SD version of the Yankee games from yes through the rights granted to D* from MLB for MLB IE.

So the culprit here is that the MLB will not give D* the rights to broadcast HD. Considering their dumb ass forays into the internet, it makes complete sense for MLB to be mucking up the works.

jpco
04-19-05, 03:21 PM
It doesn't make sense to me. Yes and the Yankees have broadcast rights for the content. Sense to me would be that whether it's HD or SD doesn't matter either way.

Eventually, all simulcasts of content should be available. Broadcast networks don't charge more for HD, and if eventually HD will be regular TV, the sports leagues should not either.

keenan
04-19-05, 04:22 PM
Originally posted by jpco
It doesn't make sense to me. Yes and the Yankees have broadcast rights for the content. Sense to me would be that whether it's HD or SD doesn't matter either way.



The fact that one is "HD" and the other "SD" makes them different content by definition.

It's very possible that the future for much of HD will be Pay HD. Starting in 2006, you will have to pay to see Monday Night Football.

jpco
04-19-05, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by keenan
The fact that one is "HD" and the other "SD" makes them different content by definition.

It's very possible that the future for much of HD will be Pay HD. Starting in 2006, you will have to pay to see Monday Night Football.

I guess we're trading the same quotes in two threads. I receive CBS OTA, with no extra cost. If I get HBO or Showtime from D*, I get the HD versions at no extra cost. Sorry, but I don't buy the logic that it's different content.

keenan
04-19-05, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by jpco
Sorry, but I don't buy the logic that it's different content.

To the content owner it may very well be different. We already have broadcasters negotiating for more compensation for their HD signal over the SD feed. I don't like how this is going but it seems to be happening more often than less.

goflerace2
04-19-05, 07:57 PM
Originally posted by nywst
Simple,
Sox choked in 2003
Yanks choked in 2004.

Nice try, but it doesn't wash. In 2003. the Sox lost because of the manager. I don't remember the Sox having a 3-0 advantage in that series. In 2004, the Yanks choked.

jpco
04-19-05, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by keenan
To the content owner it may very well be different. We already have broadcasters negotiating for more compensation for their HD signal over the SD feed. I don't like how this is going but it seems to be happening more often than less.

I'm asking this with all sincerity. Do you know of content providers who specifically are asking more for their HD feeds? Not pure HD channels, but simulcasts like TNT, HBO, Showtime, ESPN, ESPN2, the RSNs.

keenan
04-19-05, 08:52 PM
I believe the RSNs do , and possibly ESPN as well. The thing is, the costs may not be broken down as HD vs SD but as a total package cost, which in the end will be subsidized by the consumer. Sinclair Broadcasting is a prime example of a content provider asking more for their HD signals over the SD.

rkunces
04-19-05, 09:39 PM
Anyone else notice in the commercial on YES tonight concerning tomorrow's game against the Blue Jays. 'HD where available" Did they do this for the series against Baltimore as well and is just a plug for YES-HD or are the games tomorrow going to be in HD?

JMMHouston
04-20-05, 02:43 PM
I just "moved" to Connecticut last night. Watching the Yankees lose in HD is much better than in SD as I learned in the ALCS last year.

dan57
04-20-05, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by rkunces
Anyone else notice in the commercial on YES tonight concerning tomorrow's game against the Blue Jays. 'HD where available" Did they do this for the series against Baltimore as well and is just a plug for YES-HD or are the games tomorrow going to be in HD?


I have no knowledge. However, I'm guessing that "where available" means nowhere.

nywst
04-20-05, 04:51 PM
Originally posted by goflerace2
Nice try, but it doesn't wash. In 2003. the Sox lost because of the manager. I don't remember the Sox having a 3-0 advantage in that series. In 2004, the Yanks choked.
Most people in this country know that Sox has been the symbol of loser for 3 generations.
Yes, Yanks choked big time in 2004.
But, how many times did Bos choke? Are you able to count?

nywst
04-20-05, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by rkunces
Anyone else notice in the commercial on YES tonight concerning tomorrow's game against the Blue Jays. 'HD where available" Did they do this for the series against Baltimore as well and is just a plug for YES-HD or are the games tomorrow going to be in HD?

I don't think the game will be available in HD. Hope I am wrong though.

JMMHouston
04-20-05, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by nywst
Most people in this country know that Sox has been the symbol of loser for 3 generations.
Yes, Yanks choked big time in 2004.
But, how many times did Bos choke? Are you able to count?

I don't live in the past. I like to enjoy the present and hope for a bright future. Unfortunately, New Yorkers don't have that option.

LJG
04-20-05, 07:12 PM
Is the yankee game being broadcast on Directv tonight in HD?

fredfa
04-20-05, 07:19 PM
Apparently not, LJG.
At least there is no mention of it on my screen here in LA.

rkunces
04-20-05, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by LJG
Is the yankee game being broadcast on Directv tonight in HD?

It's not. The "in HD where available" is just the YES-HD plug and not the actually game being in HD, as I've now found out from my own observation and calling YES.

dapope
04-20-05, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by LJG
Is the yankee game being broadcast on Directv tonight in HD?

no, however, the A's game is listed on channel 95 at 9;30pm

michaelk
04-20-05, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by jpco
It doesn't make sense to me. Yes and the Yankees have broadcast rights for the content. Sense to me would be that whether it's HD or SD doesn't matter either way.

Eventually, all simulcasts of content should be available. Broadcast networks don't charge more for HD, and if eventually HD will be regular TV, the sports leagues should not either.

it doesnt make sense that MLB hasnt given permission.

But it does make sense that the permission the yankees give only extends to their home teriitory. The yankees can only give permission to Directv to show their games in their local territory no matter if its SD or HD.

Just as the yankees can not give directv the rights to play their SD games in LA they are not permitted to give Directv the rights to the HD game in LA. The out of market rights are owned by MLB and they need to give that permission (in the form of MLB IE in directv's case)

Now why MLB has decided that the SD MLB IE rights dont allow Directv to have the HD rights- that makes no sense. I'm sure they might ask for more money, but i havent seen Directv back down to anyones price for a sports content. So i dont think its Directv being cheap I believe its MLB wont even offer it.

AS usuall MLB is screwing up the works. The idiots probbaly think they can sell out of market HD streaming content on the internet or cell phones.

Maybe when selig corks off, they can hire someone from the NFL to teach the stupid owners how to run a professional sports media deals.

I heard on the radio that so far the new nfl TV contracts make more then MLB, NBA, Hockey, Mens golf, AND the olypics combined. And they still have the thursday/sunday package to sell! That contract ought to cover every other sport that gets money for broadcast. Those people know how to maximize their sport on TV.

michaelk
04-20-05, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by LJG
Is the yankee game being broadcast on Directv tonight in HD?


ken posted the entire season schedule earlier- i believe the second post to this thread.

Only yankee HOME games plus some away games at fenway or shea will be HD on YES.

LJG
04-20-05, 09:48 PM
My bad, I spaced out and thought the Yankees where playing home, I knew only Yankee home games, sorry for the mistake

lon

nywst
04-20-05, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by JMMHouston
I don't live in the past. I like to enjoy the present and hope for a bright future. Unfortunately, New Yorkers don't have that option.
So you'd better pray BOS can repeat.

shadowbox
04-21-05, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by michaelk
it doesnt make sense that MLB hasnt given permission.

I wonder if it has something to do with their deal with INHD. They show 3 out of market games HD per week. And they market them like crazy, it's the main feature on their website. Maybe INHD has an exclusive. Maybe they are only allowed to show HD games in the local markets.

michaelk
04-21-05, 03:55 PM
that might make sense- but only MLB would be so stupid as to allow a package of 3 HD games/week to take precedance over everything else.

Dinger23
04-21-05, 05:14 PM
Originally posted by michaelk
that might make sense- but only MLB would be so stupid as to allow a package of 3 HD games/week to take precedance over everything else.

The deal was signed back in 03 with only HDnet and inHD bidding for the rights.

Why are you blaming MLB? Why not blame D* for not bidding on the rights for HD coverage back in 2003 when the deal was signed? I think it was only a bidding war between InHD and HDNet back then.

youngone23
04-22-05, 01:07 PM
I encourage anyone frustrated by Directv's response to this issue to write to them. I think this is an appropriate address:

Office of the President
DirecTV
PO Box 92600
Los Angeles, CA 90009

If they can't show these games in high definition nationally because INHD has the exclusive national rights in HD, how can it be agreements between "Major League Baseball and the YES Network" (as Directv has stated) that caused this problem? Wouldn't it be fair to say, in that case, that it was Directv's failure to secure those rights (either initially when they negotiated the Extra Innings package, or subsequently, when it was evidently determined that HD and SD broadcast rights are different) that caused this loss to their customers?

beatles6
04-22-05, 03:25 PM
The INHD broadcast of last night's Yankee game from Toronto was not blacked out on TWC in Staten Island. How do you figure? I thought if the game is on YES they have the local rights to the game.

tbuick6
04-22-05, 03:48 PM
You're a lucky one beatles6. I live in Westchester and am stuck with Cablevision(No Yes HD). INHD's coverage of the game was blacked out here.

michaelk
04-22-05, 04:27 PM
Originally posted by Dinger23
The deal was signed back in 03 with only HDnet and inHD bidding for the rights.

Why are you blaming MLB? Why not blame D* for not bidding on the rights for HD coverage back in 2003 when the deal was signed? I think it was only a bidding war between InHD and HDNet back then.

becasue no one with a brain would sell a contract for so long to a technology that is gaining exponentially. The situation is drastically differnt in 2005 then in 2003- MLB should have provided themselves an out. If the contract ends this year maybe it made sense. But if the locked themselves into one channel to cover 30 teams for much longer then that is plain dumb.

beatles6
04-22-05, 07:44 PM
Well the question as to whether the YES productions of Yankee home games on UPN 9 would be in HD have been answered and unfortunately it is no. The game is SD on WWORDT tonight.

beatles6
04-22-05, 07:48 PM
Is tonight's HD Twins vs. Tigers game on D* channel 95 only available to those local markets? I subscribe to the EI package so I thought it would be included.

HofstraJet
04-22-05, 07:57 PM
It sucks that tonight's Yankee's game isn't on EI. What a bummer. The game is carried by D* on the local affiliate. Too bad D* can't/doesn't transmit that signal out of area. Does anyone know if that is a D*-not-bothering-to-get-the-rights issue or a MLB issue?

bgall
04-22-05, 08:00 PM
Tomorrow @ 1PM there is both a Twins and Yankees game on, I wonder if D* will be able to show both games, or just pick one, if they only show one it will be the Yankees,

michaelk
04-22-05, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by HofstraJet
It sucks that tonight's Yankee's game isn't on EI. What a bummer. The game is carried by D* on the local affiliate. Too bad D* can't/doesn't transmit that signal out of area. Does anyone know if that is a D*-not-bothering-to-get-the-rights issue or a MLB issue?

since I havent seen a sports right that D* has passed on lately, i'd vote MLB is the hold up.

trekkerj
04-27-05, 01:21 PM
You may now add Cablevision to the title of this thread.

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/cabletv/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000900817

Cablevision Airing YES in Hi Def
April 27, 2005
By Megan Larson

Cablevision Systems picked up the YES Network (Yankees
Entertainment & Sports) in high definition it was announced Wednesday, bringing the cable operator’s total HD offerings to 17 channels.

It launches Thursday at 7 p.m. with the Yankees playing the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

The channel will be offered to Cablevision’s digital customers on channel 715 and will feature Yankees and New Jersey Nets home games as well as select away games against The New York Mets and Boston Red Sox.

“We are committed to delivering an extensive and compelling array of high-definition programming to our iO digital cable customers at no additional charge, both as a significant value add and key differentiator over satellite television providers that offer less HD and force customers to pay additional charges in
order to see it,” said Kristin Dolan, Cablevision’s senior vp of product management.

Cablevision added nearly 100,000 high definition customers in 2004, bringing total customer count to 133,000 at the year’s end.

PDPnNJ
04-27-05, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by trekkerj

Cablevision Systems picked up the YES Network (Yankees
Entertainment & Sports) in high definition it was announced Wednesday, bringing the cable operator’s total HD offerings to 17 channels.



WOW

dan57
04-27-05, 01:42 PM
Is this correct? Nets home games, too? Directv only carries Yankees home games in HD.... right?

PDPnNJ
04-27-05, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by dan57
Directv only carries Yankees home games in HD.... right?

Yes.

michaelk
04-27-05, 02:46 PM
Originally posted by trekkerj
You may now add Cablevision to the title of this thread.

http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/cabletv/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000900817

Cablevision Airing YES in Hi Def
April 27, 2005
By Megan Larson

Cablevision Systems picked up the YES Network (Yankees
Entertainment & Sports) in high definition it was announced Wednesday, bringing the cable operator’s total HD offerings to 17 channels.

It launches Thursday at 7 p.m. with the Yankees playing the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim.

The channel will be offered to Cablevision’s digital customers on channel 715 and will feature Yankees and New Jersey Nets home games as well as select away games against The New York Mets and Boston Red Sox.

“We are committed to delivering an extensive and compelling array of high-definition programming to our iO digital cable customers at no additional charge, both as a significant value add and key differentiator over satellite television providers that offer less HD and force customers to pay additional charges in
order to see it,” said Kristin Dolan, Cablevision’s senior vp of product management.

Cablevision added nearly 100,000 high definition customers in 2004, bringing total customer count to 133,000 at the year’s end.

AMAZING!

I guess the Dolan’s got sick and tired of making stupid choices about everything they do and just decided to use their brains for a change….

I’m shocked but very glad for all you folks with cablevsion. Got for you.

dan57
04-27-05, 02:50 PM
So it IS correct that Cablevision will have Net home games in HD as well?

michaelk
04-27-05, 02:50 PM
Originally posted by dan57
Is this correct? Nets home games, too? Directv only carries Yankees home games in HD.... right?

Sounds like maybe next season the nets will be HD also?

That would be cool.

turls
04-27-05, 04:26 PM
Apples to oranges. MLB EI should be exempt from any such agreements because it is a premium package especially for MLB content. I'd say there is no way MLB would be stupid enough to dillute that cash cow (MLB EI), but I don't know for sure. I backed down to only MLB.TV this year, but if I can't get out-of-market RSN HD content next year, I'm dropping everything.

Originally posted by Dinger23
The deal was signed back in 03 with only HDnet and inHD bidding for the rights.

Why are you blaming MLB? Why not blame D* for not bidding on the rights for HD coverage back in 2003 when the deal was signed? I think it was only a bidding war between InHD and HDNet back then.

rkunces
04-27-05, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by michaelk
AMAZING!

I guess the Dolan’s got sick and tired of making stupid choices about everything they do and just decided to use their brains for a change….

I’m shocked but very glad for all you folks with cablevsion. Got for you.

:eek: :eek: My god Dolan has done something right for a change. I guess he was watching Conan last night too about those Knicks :). CVC needed this channel big time especially with the pending loss of the Mets and to give us CVC customers some faith that they might be doing something right.

Best part about this deal is now I can record the games in HD :)

dave99ag
04-27-05, 06:52 PM
Is it normal to get the pregame show on D* (94) when you don't have EI or live in NY?

Edit: Nevermind. Looks like the game isn't available now.

beatles6
04-27-05, 07:34 PM
Last night and again tonight channel 708 on TWC Staten Island has a grey screen although the guide says Yankees vs Angels. I called customer service and the response was "yeah we had some calls yesterday and reported it to our tech department." Anyone else having this problem?

gold23
04-27-05, 10:16 PM
Unbelievable! I checked back here tonight on a lark- knowing I wasn't going to see positive info re:Cablevision. Man am I surprised.

Got a season ticket questionairre from the Rangers today, too. Is this a mirage, or do you think they realized a little CS isn't a bad thing?

taxman48
04-28-05, 03:28 PM
Dan57: according to the CV website it said Yanks and Nets home games and selected Mets/Yanks and Boston/Yanks away games. Cablevision just left a message on my answering machine about the new addition to YES-HD channel starting tonite..

dan57
04-28-05, 04:10 PM
Interesting if true, that Cablevision would have more YES HD programming than D* or any of the other cable companies.

LL3HD
04-28-05, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by dan57
Interesting if true, that Cablevision would have more YES HD programming than D* or any of the other cable companies.

TWCNYC has the same YES HD programming for a few weeks now.

gold23
04-28-05, 05:38 PM
Oh, the joy. Cablevision, in one day, has made a HUGE dent into my hatred towards them. I don't mind being fleeced on the expense side- if they provide the content I want, combined with competent and timely customer service I'll pay.

rkunces
04-28-05, 05:43 PM
I'm surprised D* doesn't have tonights game against the Angels listed yet. Ch. 715 still has no info on the channel yet.

rkunces
04-28-05, 06:49 PM
Anyone else not seeing the Yankee pregame on any HD SE channel yet?

dschuman
04-28-05, 06:50 PM
Yep, not seeing it either. What gives?

motjes2
04-28-05, 06:53 PM
Where is the freaking game??? Don't tell me that now that CVC gets it D* subs can't....

trekkerj
04-28-05, 06:55 PM
We're not seeing anything on CV other than "stay tuned for the next yankee game in high definition' on the screen, so don't feel too bad. it better pop on at 7pm, I've been waiting three weeks for this.

rkunces
04-28-05, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by trekkerj
We're not seeing anything on CV other than "stay tuned for the next yankee game in high definition' on the screen, so don't feel too bad. it better pop on at 7pm, I've been waiting three weeks for this.

Yeah my D* and CVC boxes are basically blank right now concerning the YES Network's HD feed.

motjes2
04-28-05, 07:01 PM
Game is about to start and no HD.... :(

rkunces
04-28-05, 07:02 PM
Are any TWC customers getting the game in HD so far? Still no change on either D* or CVC. Something screwy is up.

bgall
04-28-05, 07:03 PM
D* can only carry 2 special events at one time

So the YES game cot bumped by the NBA games tonight

Mavericks @ Rockets - HDNet Local Production
Celtics @ Packers - NBA TV

Cable will still carry the game

rkunces
04-28-05, 07:04 PM
That's a joke though considering that last night 3 games in HD were available.

dschuman
04-28-05, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by bgall
got bumped by the NBA

Mavericks @ Rockets - HDNet Local Production
Celtics @ Packers - NBA TV

Cable will still carry the game
There is nothing specified on the program guide as to anything else being shown. Just says "To be announced". Where did you get that information?

bgall
04-28-05, 07:05 PM
I see them in the online program guide

Channel 95 - Mavs (HDnet)
Channel 96 - Celetics (NBA-TV)

motjes2
04-28-05, 07:07 PM
That's nonsense... Who cares about NBA freaking games....:mad: I want my HD baseball.....:mad:

bgall
04-28-05, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by rkunces
That's a joke though considering that last night 3 games in HD were available.

Really? I guess they could've killed the PPV-HD channel to carry three...

rkunces
04-28-05, 07:07 PM
The bad part is that CVC has screwed this thing up yet again, still getting the blue screen. And now the game is underway.

rkunces
04-28-05, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by bgall
Really? I guess they could've killed the PPV-HD channel to carry three...

Yeah last night:

Ch. 94 7pm Angels @ Yankees (YES-HD)
Ch. 95 8pm Mariners @ Rangers (FSN Southwest-HD)
Ch. 96 8pm Washington Wizarrds @ Chicago Bulls (NBATV-HD)

dapope
04-28-05, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by bgall
D* can only carry 2 special events at one time

So the YES game cot bumped by the NBA games tonight

Mavericks @ Rockets - HDNet Local Production
Celtics @ Packers - NBA TV

Cable will still carry the game

thats not correct, they carry a 1/2 dozen football games np, there must be a problem on YE's end

arthurvino
04-28-05, 07:23 PM
Cablevision added YES-HD today...
channel 715 in NJ..
[oups} repost.. didnt see it a few pages back before..
In any rate.. Good news..

rkunces
04-28-05, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by arthurvino
Cablevision added YES-HD today...
channel 715 in NJ..

Yeah but are you getting a blue screen or the game yet?

Edit: Game is up, but no audio. Called CVC before and they said it's all on YES' end right now.

motjes2
04-28-05, 07:28 PM
Read game is on in HD on CVC... What the F**** happened to D*

arthurvino
04-28-05, 07:29 PM
Yankee game is on in HD.. split screen and all..

Originally posted by rkunces

Yeah but are you getting a blue screen or the game yet?

Edit: Game is up, but no audio. Called CVC before and they said it's all on YES' end right now.

rkunces
04-28-05, 07:30 PM
Still no audio but picture looks good. No split screen.

bgall
04-28-05, 07:34 PM
Originally posted by dapope
thats not correct, they carry a 1/2 dozen football games np, there must be a problem on YE's end

During Football Season they didn't have Fox East, Fox West, ABC East, ABC West.

silroc
04-28-05, 07:40 PM
No Audio here in North Jersey - cablevision ...

looks sweet - need sound

motjes2
04-28-05, 07:42 PM
The only problem with this is that D* should have said that this was not going to be on today and therefore everyone could have accepted it and move on. 40 minutes into the game and no one knows whether it is a technical issue or in fact the game will not be carried because they do not have enough bandwith. Should I have known this, I wouldn't careless and move on but nothing was announced or said.

rkunces
04-28-05, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by motjes2
The only problem with this is that D* should have said that this was not going to be on today and therefore everyone could have accepted it and move on. 40 minutes into the game and no one knows whether it is a technical issue or in fact the game will not be carried because they do not have enough bandwith. Should I have known this, I wouldn't careless and move on but nothing was announced or said.

It would be nice if D* had some sort of schedule for everytime they show a YES HD feed.

bgall
04-28-05, 07:54 PM
Yeah, lol, most CSRs don't even acknowledge that they carry YES-HD.

they should have a webpage for it, just like they have pages for the networks, and had a page for the NFL.

Include yes and all the FSNs and explain who gets what and what the schedule is.

Also could've had a page of all the NBA-TV games they carried and HDNet mavs games and FSN games again

rkunces
04-28-05, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by bgall
Yeah, lol, most CSRs don't even acknowledge that they carry YES-HD.

they should have a webpage for it, just like they have pages for the networks, and had a page for the NFL.

Include yes and all the FSNs and explain who gets what and what the schedule is.

Also could've had a page of all the NBA-TV games they carried and HDNet mavs games and FSN games again

And on the website note, when is D*'s "new and improved webiste" supposedly coming up?

rkunces
04-28-05, 08:27 PM
Any CVC customers out there now getting the audio for the game yet? Bot 4th and still no audio for me.

trekkerj
04-28-05, 08:57 PM
I am getting 5.1 audio now on CV.

rkunces
04-28-05, 08:57 PM
It's finally up now for me.

michaelk
04-28-05, 09:20 PM
Originally posted by rkunces
It would be nice if D* had some sort of schedule for everytime they show a YES HD feed.
i dont know why they cant add it to the guide data 2 weeks out like every other channel.

THey only toss it up the day before so you never know what to expect.

It totally screws up the tivo too.

And while i'm bitching about their stupid guide date, they dont use consitant phrases so you can get a darn season pass to find them all even assuming they put them in the guide weeks in advance like they should.

silroc
04-28-05, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by rkunces
Any CVC customers out there now getting the audio for the game yet? Bot 4th and still no audio for me.


yes bot 7 audio worx

cablejunk
04-30-05, 07:47 PM
Any change in Yes-HD being available for out-of-local-market MLB-EI subscribers on Directv?

Havent heard from any out of market posters in a bit...

bigcat
04-30-05, 07:53 PM
out-of-local-market subs looking for options other than D*.

Originally posted by cablejunk
Any change in Yes-HD being available for out-of-local-market MLB-EI subscribers on Directv?

Havent heard from any out of market posters in a bit...

jpco
04-30-05, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by cablejunk
Any change in Yes-HD being available for out-of-local-market MLB-EI subscribers on Directv?

Havent heard from any out of market posters in a bit...

No change. It's frustrating to see TNT-HD NBA playoffs not being offered to all while local markets (not just Yanks) get HD programming of regular season baseball.

The powers that be at D* may be overestimating the loyalty of their HD-seeking subs.

Da Truth
04-30-05, 09:09 PM
This should be in the local forum :cool:

cablejunk
05-01-05, 10:16 PM
Originally posted by jpco
No change. It's frustrating to see TNT-HD NBA playoffs not being offered to all while local markets (not just Yanks) get HD programming of regular season baseball.

The powers that be at D* may be overestimating the loyalty of their HD-seeking subs.


Is the programming that you receive determined by the address the bill gets sent to?

jpco
05-01-05, 11:59 PM
I think it's by the service address, not the billing address. I've heard that you can "move" your service address, but I've never looked into it.

RLVTEC
05-09-05, 07:08 PM
why am i not getting anymore hd feeds for the yankees here in toms river nj?, havent seen a game on hi def in more than a week (comcast)

RLVTEC
05-09-05, 07:37 PM
nevermind comcast is having sattelite feed problems in plainfield NJ

nywst
05-09-05, 11:22 PM
Everything is ok in Mercer NJ. Comcast

youngone23
05-12-05, 09:12 AM
I received a response from Directv Office of the President regarding out of market HD Yankee broadcasts on YES in response to a detailed letter I sent: bottom line, it is not going to happen.

They say the YES network does not have rights to deliver certain programming licensed by MLB out of the New York market. I can only conclude that "certain programming" means the high definition feed since they are carrying the standard feed of YES braodcasts for many Yankee games through MLBEI.

The letter mentions that no extra fees are charged to carry the YES Network (probably in response to my point that I pay for MLBEI, high definition package and regional sports network so I should get the HD YES feeds at least on those days that the YES feed is the one carried by MLBEI).

I received no reply to the portion of my letter wondering how their lawyers could negotiate a package that allows them to braodcast a standard definition feed of a particular game but to allow someone else the rights to either broadcast or block Directv from broadcasting the high definition feed of the very same game from the same network with the same announcers. Evidently, they needed "more specific detail" from me to answer that question.

DanC-P
05-12-05, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by youngone23


They say the YES network does not have rights to deliver certain programming licensed by MLB out of the New York market. I can only conclude that "certain programming" means the high definition feed since they are carrying the standard feed of YES braodcasts for many Yankee games through MLBEI. I wonder if that means that INHD has exclusive HD rights to rebroadcasting out-of-market games on a national level.

rkunces
05-12-05, 11:39 AM
Keeps seeming so even more everyday.

rick_q
05-25-05, 03:53 PM
i just talked to MLB relations. they said there will likely be NO deal for this year for HD games in the MLBEI package. so i guess that means no YESHD games this year for people that subscribe to MLBEI. one can only hope by next year there will be. if not then i will likely switch to comcast for INHD baseball.

trekkerj
05-25-05, 04:29 PM
Has anyone getting YES-HD through means other than Cablevision noticed any video freezing during the games? This has been happening more and more on Cablevision and they said it is a problem with the programmer (YES). Just curious if this is happening on TWC, Comcast, or D*?

LL3HD
05-25-05, 05:47 PM
Has anyone getting YES-HD through means other than Cablevision noticed any video freezing during the games? This has been happening more and more on Cablevision and they said it is a problem with the programmer (YES). Just curious if this is happening on TWC, Comcast, or D*?


Yeah, last night on TWC NY YES HD was a bust, worst audio and video breakups ever. Total loss of feed mid way through the game and it was the only HD channel with this problem.

Only last night was bad, other YES broadcasts have been fiine

trekkerj
05-25-05, 06:58 PM
Hmm, maybe it is a YES thing then. For me, Tuesday was the worst for me also, but I still had freezes for many of the other games, although just 1 or 2 in the span of the entire game, so it's possible you missed them. Anyone else?

mboy
05-26-05, 07:25 AM
Hmm, maybe it is a YES thing then. For me, Tuesday was the worst for me also, but I still had freezes for many of the other games, although just 1 or 2 in the span of the entire game, so it's possible you missed them. Anyone else?

Yep, exact same issues here on cablevision. Must be YES feed itself.

aerosnow88
05-26-05, 07:55 AM
On D*TV, the game came in crystal clear (audio and video) throught the game. Even when Jetes was stepping on Cano.

trekkerj
05-26-05, 08:07 AM
Yep, exact same issues here on cablevision. Must be YES feed itself.

Why do you say it's the YES feed if you are also on Cablevision? I am trying to figure out if anyone out of Cablevision is having the problems.

NorthJersey
05-26-05, 08:33 AM
whether it's a YES problem or a cablevision problem the intermittent freezing, very annoying I must say, has been going on YES-HD since the Sunday's game against the Mets.

dapope
05-26-05, 01:59 PM
Has anyone getting YES-HD through means other than Cablevision noticed any video freezing during the games? This has been happening more and more on Cablevision and they said it is a problem with the programmer (YES). Just curious if this is happening on TWC, Comcast, or D*?

I was watching on CV, and, had to switch to Directv, Directv has had no freeze problems at all, while, everytime i try to watch on CV, its a problem

rkunces
05-26-05, 05:12 PM
I was watching on CV, and, had to switch to Directv, Directv has had no freeze problems at all, while, everytime i try to watch on CV, its a problem

Same here. CV has been skipping ever since day 1 too.

rkunces
05-26-05, 08:10 PM
BTW, is WWOR-HD broadcasting any of the home Yankee games in HD? Last weekend's series with the Mets I noticed the HD highlights of Friday's game on Sunday. Not to mention other HD highlights of games that were on WWOR.

trekkerj
05-26-05, 10:58 PM
BTW, is WWOR-HD broadcasting any of the home Yankee games in HD? Last weekend's series with the Mets I noticed the HD highlights of Friday's game on Sunday. Not to mention other HD highlights of games that were on WWOR.

No. Since they are using YES's production facilities, they are shot and stored in HD, but broadcast in SD on UPN9. WWOR would have to pay for the right to air in HD, and they don't.

jdspencer
05-28-05, 09:54 AM
Last night I was switching between ESPN-HD and YES on DirecTV to see which had better PQ. To me it looked like YES was a bit better. Also, there's no bottom banner with YES. I hate ESPN for using that disturbing banner all of the time. But, YES's score bug is obnoxious. Can't they at least position it better for the HD broadcast?

jluzbet
03-01-06, 03:20 PM
Any1 knows the status for this year? I hope is not the same soap opera we had last year ...

dan57
03-03-06, 01:35 PM
I too am interested to know which providers will be carrying YES in HD, and specifically whether or not it will be on D*. If not, I'm outta there.

RayBan
03-03-06, 03:34 PM
More importantly - what about SNY?

moolala
03-09-06, 11:05 PM
Any1 knows the status for this year? I hope is not the same soap opera we had last year ...

I've had several discussions with DirecTV already this week...BLANK...at least they're consistent with their lack of knowledge of what they will or won't be doing for us.

Aside from all the confusion regarding local markets, MLB rules, etc...what actually did occur last year on DirecTV re HD feed on ch94 ? ...the forum just plain stops in May 2005...did DirecTV air all the Yankee home games at least for the people where YES was their regional sports network...or did it run into complications somewhere along the way that I did not pick up on reading through posts here and elsewhere ??

moo

tbb1226
03-09-06, 11:27 PM
I've had several discussions with DirecTV already this week...BLANK...at least they're consistent with their lack of knowledge of what they will or won't be doing for us.

Aside from all the confusion regarding local markets, MLB rules, etc...what actually did occur last year on DirecTV re HD feed on ch94 ? ...the forum just plain stops in May 2005...did DirecTV air all the Yankee home games at least for the people where YES was their regional sports network...or did it run into complications somewhere along the way that I did not pick up on reading through posts here and elsewhere ??IIRC, they carried pretty much all of the YES HD games for New Yorkers (and, after a while, for Extra Innings subscribers) through about mid-late August. After that, there were lots of games down the stretch that DirecTV did NOT carry in HD at all.

guffy1
03-10-06, 12:35 AM
IIRC, they carried pretty much all of the YES HD games for New Yorkers (and, after a while, for Extra Innings subscribers) through about mid-late August. After that, there were lots of games down the stretch that DirecTV did NOT carry in HD at all.

Thats pretty much exactly how it went down last year...

dan57
03-10-06, 08:49 AM
I might add that many of the game that D* did NOT carry in HD down the stretch even for the local folks were carried in HD by the local cablecos. If I smell a repeat, it's bye-bye D* for me.

moolala
03-10-06, 09:48 AM
IIRC, they carried pretty much all of the YES HD games for New Yorkers (and, after a while, for Extra Innings subscribers) through about mid-late August. After that, there were lots of games down the stretch that DirecTV did NOT carry in HD at all.


Thanks...were there games expected to be aired beyond august that were part ofothe 70 games anticipated ?? ...was there any explanation or even educated guesses at why they ceased ??

there's such a cloud of mystery thus far for 2006 that even with YES announcing incresing broadcasts, hard to say whether we'll even see a single one of D*
Certainly none that they're willing to admit to anyhow.

Barking up the wrong tree granted, but it's mind-boggling that if they have rights, that they haven't waved it around to get the most value out of it...aside from CSR's being in the dark, the whole picture just continues to bewilder me !!

moo

tbb1226
03-10-06, 10:29 AM
Thanks...were there games expected to be aired beyond august that were part ofothe 70 games anticipated ?? ...was there any explanation or even educated guesses at why they ceased ??Depends what you mean by "expected." YES was producing in HD, and the feed was available to DirecTV, but they stopped providing it to subscribers. I think most of us had gotten used to having it available (along with other HD RSN games), so yes, we expected them and did not receive them. DirecTV doesn't promise much, so they probably would say that we should not have expected to receive them.

there's such a cloud of mystery thus far for 2006 that even with YES announcing incresing broadcasts, hard to say whether we'll even see a single one of D*
Certainly none that they're willing to admit to anyhow.Precisely.

Barking up the wrong tree granted, but it's mind-boggling that if they have rights, that they haven't waved it around to get the most value out of it...aside from CSR's being in the dark, the whole picture just continues to bewilder me !!As you pointed out, there' never an "official" explanation from DirecTV, but it's all about the BW. Not hard to figure out, really.

I fully expect that HD RSNs will be part of the HD LiL set eventually, but they need to reach some fairly high saturation point of HD customers with MPEG4 before they can even think about it. I have no idea what they consider that threshold to be, or how soon it might be reached, but I would bet my house that it won't be this year.

moolala
03-10-06, 11:47 AM
Depends what you mean by "expected." YES was producing in HD, and the feed was available to DirecTV, but they stopped providing it to subscribers. I think most of us had gotten used to having it available (along with other HD RSN games), so yes, we expected them and did not receive them. DirecTV doesn't promise much, so they probably would say that we should not have expected to receive them.

Precisely.

As you pointed out, there' never an "official" explanation from DirecTV, but it's all about the BW. Not hard to figure out, really.

I fully expect that HD RSNs will be part of the HD LiL set eventually, but they need to reach some fairly high saturation point of HD customers with MPEG4 before they can even think about it. I have no idea what they consider that threshold to be, or how soon it might be reached, but I would bet my house that it won't be this year.

thanks for your comments...when I asked whether you expected to receive any more, I meant whether YEs had already satisifed the 70 games it had scheduled for HD by that point in time or if all of sudden they (DirecTV) just stopped airing them ??

tbb1226
03-10-06, 12:00 PM
thanks for your comments...when I asked whether you expected to receive any more, I meant whether YEs had already satisifed the 70 games it had scheduled for HD by that point in time or if all of sudden they (DirecTV) just stopped airing them ??The second thing you said. YES continued to produce HD broadcasts, DirecTV ceased to pass them on to us.

brad31
03-10-06, 04:33 PM
I fully expect that HD RSNs will be part of the HD LiL set eventually, but they need to reach some fairly high saturation point of HD customers with MPEG4 before they can even think about it. I have no idea what they consider that threshold to be, or how soon it might be reached, but I would bet my house that it won't be this year.

This is the part I don't understand. IF D* already has the rights to broadcast the HD feed of a RSN (in this case YES but I understand this is the case in other markets as well) and they are already broadcasting locals in mpeg4 to that market - how much cost is there to broadcast the RSN in HD? If D* sees offering HD locals critical to competing with cable - how are RSN's different? Since they are starting in the largests markets - aren't there more people interested in the RSN's in those markets than the network locals in the smaller markets they are getting to now with mpeg4?

Ken H
03-10-06, 08:06 PM
At some point D* will carry local HD sports nets in MPEG4. Not sure when, but it could just as well be sooner as later.

POWERFUL
03-11-06, 12:09 AM
Any word on whether or not ch. 9 WWOR will have the broadcasts in HD? I really hope that they do since they use YES productions and all Yankees games at home are broadcast in HD, and some on the road.

PDPnNJ
03-11-06, 09:15 AM
Any word on whether or not ch. 9 WWOR will have the broadcasts in HD? I really hope that they do since they use YES productions and all Yankees games at home are broadcast in HD, and some on the road.

I really doubt they will be in HD on WWOR.

moolala
04-03-06, 10:06 AM
pretty quiet...is this story dead for 2006 ?
no ch94...nothing ?

where are all the people that were privy to so much info last year ?

ntzineff
04-03-06, 11:06 AM
A sad start to the 2006 season...

hunter65
04-03-06, 11:15 AM
pretty quiet...is this story dead for 2006 ?
no ch94...nothing ?

where are all the people that were privy to so much info last year ?

It's quiet because we are all in the dark with this issue. I guess we will have to wait and see come April 11.

Marcus Carr
04-03-06, 12:07 PM
RCN Says YES to Renewal, HD
3/31/2006 5:21:00 PM

RCN Corp. and Yankees Entertainment & Sports Network reached a multiyear renewal of their carriage agreement.

In addition to continued carriage of the regional sports network, the operator will air HD feeds of New York Yankees Major League Baseball and New Jersey Nets National Basketball Association games.

YES said it will launch a 24-hour HD network in April 2007, which will also be carried by RCN.

http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6321148.html?display=Breaking+News

TMSKILZ
04-03-06, 12:13 PM
More importantly - what about SNY?

TWC-NYC added SNY-HD it's on CH.741, they also added WPIX-HD(CH.711) & they still carry UNV-HD (CH.709) I was watching SCARFACE in HD on UNV-HD the other night.

Hopefully TWC-NYC will continue to add & carry more HD CHs soon.

cire
04-03-06, 10:43 PM
So, anyone know whats up with YES HD for TWC NYC? Seems like those of us local fans ought to be able to see the Yankees in HD. Any info?

bgall
04-03-06, 10:52 PM
the first YES HD game isn't until 4/11

talbain
04-03-06, 10:55 PM
pretty quiet...is this story dead for 2006 ?
no ch94...nothing ?

where are all the people that were privy to so much info last year ?


what's the problem, exactly? yes/d* broadcasts yankee HOME games in hd. they are playing in oakland...

hunter65
04-03-06, 11:03 PM
what's the problem, exactly? yes/d* broadcasts yankee HOME games in hd. they are playing in oakland...

Maybe he's out of market and wondering if he'll be able to see the Yankees in HD with MLB Extra Innings come April 11. Do you know the answer to that?

TMSKILZ
04-03-06, 11:12 PM
I guess Talbian posts explains why the 1st few games of the Yankees aren't on YES-HD, since acording to his post they only carry home games in HD on YES-HD, makes sense.

I'm in NYC & TWC here hasn't added YES-HD to it's lineup, but they do have 2 special HD CHs (CH.708 & CH.712) which from time to time carry sporting events in HD.
CH.708 @ times shows NETS games in HD & I believe last yr they also showed the YES-HD Yankees games.
CH.712 shows MSG-HD KNICK games.

moolala
04-04-06, 02:03 AM
what's the problem, exactly? yes/d* broadcasts yankee HOME games in hd. they are playing in oakland...

I realize they broadcast all the home games...but they are also broadcasting 27 road games this year too

http://www.yesnetwork.com/network/news.asp?news_id=1623

anyhow, none of that is "the problem"...I'm just checking to see what anyone might know/think about whether any (or all) of those games might appear on D* in 2006 considering that D* did broadcast the majority of home HD games that YES broadcast in 2005 on ch.94 (until August anyhow)...with much mystery and no fanfare...as this forum's history details.

moo

moolala
04-04-06, 02:08 AM
what's the problem, exactly? yes/d* broadcasts yankee HOME games in hd. they are playing in oakland...

if your ref "yes/d*" implies DirecTV, then part of the prob at the moment as far as I know anyway is that we don't know whether d* is even going to be carrying those either. (the home games)

talbain
04-04-06, 02:41 AM
all we can do is use last year as a guide, and last year they showed nothing but yankee home games in hd. not all mind you, but many of them...

John Meno
04-04-06, 04:15 PM
:eek: Wait. Are you saying that the yankee home games might not be in HD on DirecTv? If that's the case, I'm going to be one angry individual.

CKNA
04-04-06, 05:12 PM
I guess Talbian posts explains why the 1st few games of the Yankees aren't on YES-HD, since acording to his post they only carry home games in HD on YES-HD, makes sense.

I'm in NYC & TWC here hasn't added YES-HD to it's lineup, but they do have 2 special HD CHs (CH.708 & CH.712) which from time to time carry sporting events in HD.
CH.708 @ times shows NETS games in HD & I believe last yr they also showed the YES-HD Yankees games.
CH.712 shows MSG-HD KNICK games.

There will be 27 away games in HD not only home. Even last year Yes HD showed away games agains Red Sox, Mets and Orioles at the end of season. D* showed them all except they missed one against Baltimore.

mikeny
04-06-06, 08:50 AM
I'm a yankee fan living in Boston. None of the Red sox games on 4.4 and 4.5 which definitely had an HD feed have been broadcast in HD on DTV. My next door neighbor has cable and has seen all the games in HD. Of course, nobody at DTV has any idea who decides when a HD feed is picked up.

It doesn't sound like you're discussing YES HD broacasts.

yankee7
04-08-06, 06:56 PM
I'm discussing the likelihood of YES broadcasts in HD. my point is that if DTV hasn't picked up any of the HD feeds for other teams, i'd be concerned that there not going to pick up the YES HD feed. To date there hasn't been one baseball game broadcast in HD with the exception of the ESPN games...

talbain
04-08-06, 07:12 PM
well its time to rejoice if you're a directv sub in nyc then, because as of last night all three royals at yankees games next week in their home opener showed up in the program guide. looks like those are the first yes hd broadcasts of the year on d*

hunter65
04-08-06, 07:28 PM
well its time to rejoice if you're a directv sub in nyc then, because as of last night all three royals at yankees games next week in their home opener showed up in the program guide. looks like those are the first yes hd broadcasts of the year on d*

Will these games be available for me in Michigan if I sub to MLB EI and the HD package?

tbb1226
04-08-06, 07:57 PM
To date there hasn't been one baseball game broadcast in HD with the exception of the ESPN games...Not true. There has been EXACTLY one HD baseball broadcast on DirecTV channel 95 - last Monday's Dodgers/Braves game. I wasn't home, so I don't know if it was regional access only, or if EI subs were allowed to see it.

This Mondays Dodgers game is also in the 95 guide.

tbb1226
04-08-06, 08:01 PM
Will these games be available for me in Michigan if I sub to MLB EI and the HD package?Probably not, but we won't know for sure until Tuesday.

Janney66
04-08-06, 08:16 PM
Not true. There has been EXACTLY one HD baseball broadcast on DirecTV channel 95 - last Monday's Dodgers/Braves game. I wasn't home, so I don't know if it was regional access only, or if EI subs were allowed to see it.



There was actually another game on Ch 95 (Rockies vs. Dbacks). It was on Wed. night. Both Monday's Dodgers game and the Dbacks game were available to me in HD on Ch 95. I am an EI sub. HD games should be available to all EI Subs again this year.

bigcat
04-08-06, 09:18 PM
If things are working like last year, yes, you will get the games. But, with D* you can never say anything for sure.

Will these games be available for me in Michigan if I sub to MLB EI and the HD package?

hunter65
04-08-06, 09:34 PM
Not true. There has been EXACTLY one HD baseball broadcast on DirecTV channel 95 - last Monday's Dodgers/Braves game. I wasn't home, so I don't know if it was regional access only, or if EI subs were allowed to see it.

This Mondays Dodgers game is also in the 95 guide.

I also saw Colorado and Arizona on channel 95 last week. If I saw this one, why not Yankees and Royals next week?

tbb1226
04-09-06, 11:00 AM
I also saw Colorado and Arizona on channel 95 last week. If I saw this one, why not Yankees and Royals next week?I don't know how long you've subscribed to DirecTV, but I've had it for 10 years, and I've pretty much given up on asking "why." Their actions are often seemingly without explanation - almost "Kafa-esque," IMHO. Whether they allow us to see the YES coverage Tuesday, there won't be any rationale for the choice, and they're likely to reverse the next day. :confused:

dan57
04-10-06, 08:39 AM
well its time to rejoice if you're a directv sub in nyc then, because as of last night all three royals at yankees games next week in their home opener showed up in the program guide. looks like those are the first yes hd broadcasts of the year on d*

I am still cautiously optimistic, but somewhat sceptical. This showed up in the programming guide, but as a part of the pay package. I assume that means for outside of the the New York City viewing area and it will included wihtout extra charge inside the NYC viewing area. We'll find out tommorow.

DevTeam
04-10-06, 09:09 AM
I am still cautiously optimistic, but somewhat sceptical. This showed up in the programming guide, but as a part of the pay package. I assume that means for outside of the the New York City viewing area and it will included wihtout extra charge inside the NYC viewing area. We'll find out tommorow.

Yes HD broadcast the nets vs. cavs game on saturday on channel 95. In my mind, this is a done deal, and the yanks will be on in HD throughout the season on D*.

guffy1
04-10-06, 09:13 AM
I am still cautiously optimistic, but somewhat sceptical. This showed up in the programming guide, but as a part of the pay package. I assume that means for outside of the the New York City viewing area and it will included wihtout extra charge inside the NYC viewing area. We'll find out tommorow.

The YESHD Yankees games is the 90's will almost for sure be available to everyone within the NYC DMA...YESHD Nets games have been available to all NYC subs all season, dont see why Yankess would be any different from that...All the Yankees games were available last year to all NYC subs, whether they subbed to MLBEI or not.. Directv sucks, but they arent stupid....Take it to the bank...

dan57
04-10-06, 09:19 AM
I hope you're right, guffy1. Tommorow will tell.

guffy1
04-10-06, 09:45 AM
I hope you're right, guffy1. Tommorow will tell.

Man I hope Im right too..Ill be extremely bummed if I dont get a chance to root for who ever is playing the Yankees in HDLite all season..

I find that rooting against the Yanks is almost as fun as rooting against The Packers and Notre Dame football....Almost.....

The Yankees in HDLite is pretty much what got me to sign up for D*..And Yankees HDLite is a huge part of why I continue to stick around and pay for the garbage PQ that D* provides...

talbain
04-10-06, 12:36 PM
it's funny. i'm a huge mets fan, but i don't hate the yankees. don't even dislike them. maybe its because i want another subway series for revenge...

i just want local (mets, yankees) baseball in hd. is that too much to ask?

PDPnNJ
04-10-06, 03:17 PM
it's funny. i'm a huge mets fan, but i don't hate the yankees. don't even dislike them.


Same here, Yankee fan and enjoy watching the Mets. Same goes for Football and Basketball. Fan of one team but also enjoy watching the other NY team.


i just want local (mets, yankees) baseball in hd. is that too much to ask?

I don't think so, just make the move :D

rukkus
04-11-06, 01:20 PM
I have comcast HD and I cannot find the yankees home opener on any of the HDTV channels right now. >:|

I'm in NJ

nywst
04-11-06, 06:41 PM
Did any Comcast users get Yankees home opener in HD?
If Comcast still won't carry it, I will switch to D*.
NJ Comcast really sucks.

nywst
04-11-06, 07:23 PM
wow, no one cares about YES HD now.....

hunter65
04-11-06, 07:40 PM
I do but I get it on Directv(Yankee games only myself)