Forgive me if this has been posted.

Galactica is on Universal hd! Woo Hoo!

Sundays at 8:00 right after Monk

Now if we could get Stargate/Atlantis:D

Yes its been posted, already started airing last week.

and theres 0% chance you will see Atlantis on UHD, its not done by Universal/NBC.

vper - The search function is your friend. There is a long running thread that discusses this here. (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=492989&highlight=battlestar+galactica)

Maybe we should leave this thread open for those that did not watch on SciFi and don't want to be spoiled as they watch the first season on UHD?

Originally posted by CPanther95
Maybe we should leave this thread open for those that did not watch on SciFi and don't want to be spoiled as they watch the first season on UHD?

LOL ... Better edit the thread title quick then :D

I'm more of lurker in these programming threads than a poster, but I'd like to see some discussion of the episodes as they play out on UHD. I realized I was missing a good series too late to start watching it on Sci-Fi. Now that it's in HD, I'm glad I missed the first run.

I didn't watch the original Lorne Greene series, so all this is new to me. The mini-series was pretty good, and the tension-filled "33" was really good.

Where do I get a "chip" like Balthar's to create such a cool imaginary friend? I might never leave the house.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Maybe we should leave this thread open for those that did not watch on SciFi and don't want to be spoiled as they watch the first season on UHD? It would appear that you've changed your policy since this happened (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?postid=5461318#post5461318), then? ;)

If we're to keep this thread to discuss the program called Battlestar Galactica, then the thread title should contain the program title, IMHO. Otherwise, even those who use the search function with due diligence might miss the thread.

Originally posted by CPanther95
Maybe we should leave this thread open for those that did not watch on SciFi and don't want to be spoiled as they watch the first season on UHD?

Good idea, I waited until it came to Uni-HD myself...

So, given that, here's my first question..:p

I missed about 10-15 mins of the first episode, "33". Did the fact that they jumped every 33 mins have any significance to it, what it a number pulled out of thin air, or..?

Originally posted by keenan
I missed about 10-15 mins of the first episode, "33". Did the fact that they jumped every 33 mins have any significance to it, what it a number pulled out of thin air, or..? I don't know if this answers the right question, but they figured out that 33 minutes was exactly the amount of time it took for the Cylons to track them down and show up whenever they jumped to a new spot.

I don't recall if they said exactly how many times it happened prior to the start of the show, but I got the impression that it had been happening at that cycle time for several days.

Originally posted by keenan
Good idea, I waited until it came to Uni-HD myself...

So, given that, here's my first question..:p

I missed about 10-15 mins of the first episode, "33". Did the fact that they jumped every 33 mins have any significance to it, what it a number pulled out of thin air, or..?

The only other "possible" significance is that the number "3" is significant in religion. In christianity, Holy Trinity, Christ rose on the third day, etc. In our church (Greek Orthodox) many rites, rituals, prayers, etc. are done three times. In Hinduism-Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva.

Originally posted by tbb1226
I don't know if this answers the right question, but they figured out that 33 minutes was exactly the amount of time it took for the Cylons to track them down and show up whenever they jumped to a new spot.

I don't recall if they said exactly how many times it happened prior to the start of the show, but I got the impression that it had been happening at that cycle time for several days.

Okay, I suspected that it was something like this, but not seeing the very beginning of the episode I wasn't sure.

Right. It took the Cylons 33 minutes to track the fleet each time they 'jumped'. But just how were the Cylons finding them? I'm not tellin. BTW, (producer) Ron Moore pulled the number '33' out of thin air. Or, so he stated in his blog at SciFi, if I remember correctly.

They had said it was 4 or 5 days - 230 or so consecutive jumps.

Title edited.

Originally posted by rezzy
(producer) Ron Moore pulled the number '33' out of thin air. Or, so he stated in his blog at SciFi, if I remember correctly.

I think 33 minutes allowed math geeks to impress their friends with quick calculations of the days/hours/minutes the crew had gone without sleep. We lesser mortals needed the title boards.

BTW, what's the consensus, is Balthar delusional, or did Six put a chip in his brain?

I vote chip - or I want some of whatever he's taking if it's just his imagination.

... and I rounded the 33 to an even half-hour to make easier calculations - I guess I'm just a lazy math geek. :)

Originally posted by Bill Shakespeare
Where do I get a "chip" like Balthar's to create such a cool imaginary friend? I might never leave the house.

As I said earlier...

Originally posted by zmeister
The only other "possible" significance is that the number "3" is significant in religion. In christianity, Holy Trinity, Christ rose on the third day, etc. In our church (Greek Orthodox) many rites, rituals, prayers, etc. are done three times. In Hinduism-Brahma, Vishnu, Shiva.

Which explains the great Larry Bird's (#33) career!

I just ordered the whole season from Amazon UK...I'm an impatient sort of guy..:D :p Plus it has a 5.1 soundtrack...:)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/keenanj/B0007L6SA8.jpg

Nice Box Cover!

Do you think the US release date will come around July to coincide with the start of the 2nd season?

Not sure if it has a release date for the US yet.

I read somewhere (probably the Digital Bits Rumor Mill page since I can't find confirmation anywhere) that the Region 1 set of this series will be released in September.

Originally posted by keenan
I just ordered the whole season from Amazon UK...I'm an impatient sort of guy..:D :p Plus it has a 5.1 soundtrack...:)
It doesn't have a DD5.1 soundtrack on UHD? That sucks.

I take it that you have a good region-free DVD player; I considered ordering this, but I don't. Enjoy.

The miniseries was DD 2.0 (Sounded great in Logic 7 7 channel), but the 13 episode season is in DD 5.1.

Originally posted by michaeltscott
It doesn't have a DD5.1 soundtrack on UHD? That sucks.

I take it that you have a good region-free DVD player; I considered ordering this, but I don't. Enjoy.

A Denon 5900, with SDI and multi-region mods feeding an iSCAN HD+, so yeah, it's a good one...:p :D

I don't think UHD has 5.1 do they? I really haven't watched much on it lately so I can't be sure...

Personally I have a heck of a time with this thread because I'm one of those who waited for it to show up on UHD, so I'd appreciate no more spoilers, but no biggie.

There hasn't been any spoilers yet has there...?

Originally posted by keenan
There hasn't been any spoilers yet has there...?

nope.

Oh sorry I was referring to the other Galactica thread.

Originally posted by GregF
Oh sorry I was referring to the other Galactica thread.

What other Galactica thread?...:p :D This is the one and only for me...:D

Originally posted by keenan
I don't think UHD has 5.1 do they? I really haven't watched much on it lately so I can't be sure...

Yep UHD has 5.1 ... although there were some problems when they first came up on D* (as BravoHD+).

The first ep, "33," sounded excellent in 5.1.

Originally posted by GregF
Oh sorry I was referring to the other Galactica thread.

Reminds me of the old SNL. "What do you mean there are too many violins on TV? Oh, "violence", well that's different, never mind."

After seeing "Water", I do think this is an exceptionally good series. I'm always skeptical, because it seems there is a crowd that will like anything with science fiction it, and I dislike much of it, but this really is good. There aren't many shows I watch these days where the time flies by and I'm surprised to find that an hour has passed. Now I see what all the excitement is about.

To the poster that never saw the original ABC show, you didn't miss much. I know now why I loved it as a ten-year old but the adults hated it. You only need to watch one episode to see all the special effects for the series. Cylons were built to be incredibly stupid back then. All you had to do was throw your Viper into reverse, fly behind the Cylons, and blast them to bits!

My dad liked the original BG when I was a little kid. He still likes the original and hates the new one and he's now 80!

Boomer is subject to blackouts when she acts as a Cylon. The Boomer with Helo, is she aware that she's a Cylon? I would guess so, but time will tell.

I thought Col. Tigh dumped his booze. Looks like a five finger stash survived. Could fetch a pretty penny if he holds on to it.

Originally posted by Bill Shakespeare
Boomer is subject to blackouts when she acts as a Cylon. The Boomer with Helo, is she aware that she's a Cylon? I would guess so, but time will tell.



From the look on her face when she walked down the hallway at the end, I got the impression that she is a Cylon and was aware of it.

Well, I imagine she is aware she's a cylon when the cylon personality/programming takes over, and it looked like one of those moments at the end of the show.

Sorry to be daft, but I saw the first part of the mini-series a while back and missed 33 and don't quite get it...is there more than one "Boomer"?

toothy mako'

Yes there are multiples of Boomer.:D

I thought it was strange that the fact that Boomer was soaking wet at the beginning of the show was never mentioned again, even when she was telling Chief what happened.

It was kinda obvious wasn't it, auribe14? Not to be an arsehole, but finding out what happened, and what she was going through; it wasn't hard to figure out why she started out wet and had a G4 detonator in her bag.

What, you mean planting bombs in the water tanks got her all wet?

At least she put a towel in the bag.

No s*@t Sherlock. I meant, in trusting Chief to help her, she didn't mention the soaking wet part. The non-Cylon part of her seems to be trusting him immensely, unless she is setting him up.

She was having trouble recognizing that her sensor had found water and she was startled to find the bomb by her seat when she had her finger on it's button a moment before.

It seems to me she has 2 seperate personalities. One(Boomer) that doesn't know anything about the the other (Cylon), except that it might exist.

Her paranoia could mean the Cylon has some control of her actions while she's Boomer, maybe posing as her subconsious.

hehe yeah i think it was related to the title of the episode.

I'm not quite clear on why she does put a bomb in her own ship. Best I can figure out is that "Cylon" Sharon, having completed her mission, wanted to blow herself up in order to transfer her consciousness back to base. But when water was discovered she had to stop and consider what to do, because the discovery had basically rendered her mission moot. Eventually she decided to stick around and try again.

Does that make sense to you guys?

hmm that's interesting. I had thought that she thinks she is human (after all at the beginning of the episode that's what the opening text says, that some Cylons think they are human), and she doesn't remember planting the bombs, and actually won a battle with her programming near the end of the show, because she was supposed to say she didn't see any water, and she was supposed to blow herself up. What do other folks think?

Originally posted by GregF
hmm that's interesting. I had thought that she thinks she is human (after all at the beginning of the episode that's what the opening text says, that some Cylons think they are human), and she doesn't remember planting the bombs, and actually won a battle with her programming near the end of the show, because she was supposed to say she didn't see any water, and she was supposed to blow herself up. What do other folks think?


(after all at the beginning of the episode that's what the opening text says, that some Cylons think they are human)

I missed this part at the beginning, if it is so, then yes, what you say makes perfect sense to me.

I found this quote on a website:

"The Cylons were created by man. They evolved. They look human. Some are programmed to think they are human. There are many copies. And they have a plan."

(italics added by me)

http://members.tripod.com/john_larocque/tns/102.html

If you were ever a fan of Babylon 5, it is probably like Talia Winters (taken from a B5 fansite):

"Many of Talia's actions were influenced by the sleeper personality known as Control. The personality would speak to her in her dreams to guide her actions. It was also apparently able to take control of her body at times without her knowledge."

It seems to me after watching "Water" that a free will conflict will play out with the half human / half cylon creatures.

Yes, and there was a blonde cylon that was shot by a metal cylon for trying to help that stranded soldier (sorry I don't know all the Galactica terms yet).

She was shot by the "other" Boomer on Caprica.

hmm that's interesting. I had thought that she thinks she is human (after all at the beginning of the episode that's what the opening text says, that some Cylons think they are human), and she doesn't remember planting the bombs, and actually won a battle with her programming near the end of the show, because she was supposed to say she didn't see any water, and she was supposed to blow herself up. What do other folks think? Yeah, that's about spot-on.


Yes, and there was a blonde cylon that was shot by a metal cylon for trying to help that stranded soldier (sorry I don't know all the Galactica terms yet). No, that's not spot-on. One of the replicants approached and kissed a stunned Helo. It was just a ruse to make him believe Boomer actually came back.

I guess I'm not totally sold on the new series yet - I've seen a few episodes on UHD (*THANK YOU DTV*)...but I guess I still yearn for some of the old-school qualities and plot of the original series. I'll give it a chance to take off and see where the storyline goes, but I honestly fell in love with Babylon 5 immediately, whereas this series seems to take some getting used to.

I have never watched Babylon 5 but I really really liked the pilot/movie of BG. The series shows are good but not as good as the pilot so far.

Sorry to hijack but if I wanted to start B5 what should I watch first? Is their a pilot DVD like BG or does the series start with season 1?

There's a pretty good pilot movie for Babylon 5 titled The Gathering, much improved by a re-edit from its original airing.

It's packaged on a DVD with In the Beginning, and my caution is that you NOT watch In the Beginning just now. It was produced as a prequel while season 4 was on the air, and contains some pretty big spoilers for later seasons.

It's also perfectly acceptable to skip the pilot and launch into season 1, but I still think the pilot is a pretty good ride.

Keep in mind that Babylon 5 builds momentum slowly but steadily to a frenetic peak during season 4 when lots of foreshadowing pays off. The roller-coaster ride through the 110 episodes is a real treat.

I like to keep this in mind as people make comments here on BG based on the pilot and two (count 'em, TWO) episodes. :) (I've only seen the first two myself so far.)

Mojo

Writing that comment and thinking about the foreshadowing of Babylon 5 brings me back to the opening voice over of the pilot.

Voice of Ambassador Londo Mollari: "I was there at the dawn of the third age of mankind ..."

Just recalling that now gives me a shiver. That one single comment isn't fully understood until the fourth season of the show. Truly inspired storytelling.

What J. Michael Straczynski did opened the doors for many to come after him, and raised the bar considerably for television storytelling.

Mojo

I guess I'm not totally sold on the new series yet - I've seen a few episodes on UHD (*THANK YOU DTV*)...but I guess I still yearn for some of the old-school qualities and plot of the original series. I'll give it a chance to take off and see where the storyline goes, but I honestly fell in love with Babylon 5 immediately, whereas this series seems to take some getting used to.
Give it a chance and I guarantee you'll like this series better than the original. Heck, you'll even forget that in the original series, they had Starbuck cast as a (gasp) guy... :)

—Dan

IMHO, the original was one of the worst shows I've ever seen on TV, and the new is one of the best.

Originally posted by danco
Give it a chance and I guarantee you'll like this series better than the original. Heck, you'll even forget that in the original series, they had Starbuck cast as a (gasp) guy... :)

—Dan

Boomer is much better looking also. ;)

Nice to see the original Apollo - wonder if he'll end up with a major role or if it was just a "tip of the hat" to the original series.

So the inmate leader was played by the actor who originally played Apollo? (I passed on the original series back in the day.)

It looks like it will be a recurring role. Vote early. Vote often.

Yeah, Richard Hatch...this one:
http://www.richardhatch.com/

not this one:
http://www.fuggybootnling.com/allstarrich.html

The original Boomer:

http://www.tvtome.com/images/people/10/7/67-26440.jpg

The new Boomer:

http://www.tvtome.com/images/people/47/0/84-3046.jpg

Originally posted by CPanther95
Yeah, Richard Hatch...this one:
http://www.richardhatch.com/

not this one:
http://www.fuggybootnling.com/allstarrich.html

Hatch (the actor) has aged well hasn't he? I wish I had aged that well hehe.

It would have been interesting to see Apollo sitting in the cell with a naked Survivor contestant.

Never watched "Survivor" and didn't know that Hatch either. Fat naked guy? Brrrr, that prison cell would be uncomfortably cold, but it might put a very different spin on the inmate uprising.

The second season is starting in July, correct? Does anyone know if they'll be showing it on UHD at the same time, or make us wait again? Anyone know how long (# of episodes) the second season will be?

I doubt they will be showing it on UHD at the same time, but the writers have indicated that SciFi ordered 20 episodes for Season 2.

There is a Q and A here with the writers, but unless you've seen all of season 1 you will not want to read it. I scrolled through it to find something about season two.

THIS LINK HAS SPOILERS!!!!! The relevant info about marshdom's question is posted below.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-tribtv.story
Chicago Tribune | The 15 TV events that will rock May
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Question: Ron Moore mentioned that the writing staff was working on six episodes for the second season before the renewal was announced -- but were those six episodes being written with the assumption that there were going to be a total of 13 episodes in Season 2? In other words, did you have to rewrite episodes at all based on the fact that there actually will be 20 episodes in Season 2?

Weddle: We didn't know how many episodes Sci Fi would order when we wrote those first six scripts. But it didn't affect the stories because we look at everything that happened in the first season, where all the characters are, emotionally and physically, then move forward from there, developing stories that grow organically from what has already happened. When Sci Fi ordered 20 episodes then we began to think in broader terms about where we wanted each character to end up by the end of the season. But those ideas are fluid and can change dramatically as the scripts are written and the characters' stories unfold.

Thompson: We had no idea how many episodes Sci Fi was going to spring for, but we figured that we'd need at least six to sort out all the craziness that we set in motion with the finale.

Thanks for the reply. Everywhere I went to look for answers was full of spoilers (I'm watching them for the first time on UHD), so I didn't want to look anymore!

So is is safe to say that nobody knows (publicly anyway) when they will start to show season 2 on UHD? After watching season 1, I can't imagine having to wait to watch season 2 ... but I also can't stand the thought of watching in standard def on Sci-Fi. If it is a few week week delay, fine ... but months would be painful ...

Is season 2 being shown at the same time here (in the US) as it is overseas? If not (if it is already airing overseas?), is it possible that DVD's (in widescreen, at least) for season 2 might come out in other regions pretty soon (like they have for season 1)?

This was posted by Ron Moore on his blog over at scifi.com on April 11th. (Don't worry, no spoilers for you lucky bas!ards with UHD [Curse you TWC!])

We've almost completed shooting the opening of Season Two, with Michael Rymer back at the helm filming a two-parter written by David Weddle & Bradley Thompson called "Scattered" and "Valley of Darkness." Things have been going well so far, with a good mood on the set and a feeling of satisfaction and pride running through the whole team at their accomplishments in year one and anticipation for year two. I'm in Los Angeles at the moment, but I'm shuttling back and forth between here and there once again.

In terms of writing, we have scripts in hand for the first seven shows, scripts underway for the next three and stories underway for the next three after that, so we're in excellent shape in terms of being prepared for production. The further ahead you can deliver scripts, the more time each department has to plan and allocate resources, which ends up saving substantial money by simply avoiding last-minute surprises like, "Oh, we need a freighter interior this week" which causes an enormous scramble as everyone has to run around and either find a location with virtually no lead time which must still be completely dressed for camera, or a set will have to be constructed from scratch virtually overnight with consequent overtime overages. The solution sounds simple -- just write the scripts faster -- but executing that idea turns out to be much more complex. Changes in storylines tend to domino backwards and forwards throughout the episodes, requiring more rewriting and a lot of ball juggling to keep it all straight.

It's good to be getting dailies again and see the cast back in uniform after the long break. In fact, it's just good to be doing a show that everyone is so committed to and so proud of. Season two looks like it's going to be something really special.

Was anyone watching BS on UHD last night (May 1st)? This was the only station local or D* that was experiencing massive breakups every few seconds.

I watched the whole thing last night, and not one breakup.

(edit) On UHD on D*.

Ja, no breakups for me on D*.

I enjoyed the episode. I bet the cylon survives the crash as well as Starbuck.

The breakups I experienced were just after every commercial. The audio would be gone for 15-20 seconds, then come back. Good episode. Showed a side of Adama that we really hadnt seen yet.

I have the same audio problem at commercial breaks, but I'm not sure if I should fault the data stream or my receiver. Other than that, it was a solid feed.

Enjoyed the episode!

Mojo

Some receivers have an audio drop out when switching souround modes. My H/K receivers all do this when I am watching HD broadcasts. The commercials are sometimes a different format than the show.

I thought this was the weakest episode yet and too predictable. At least the ending sequence was cool. Oh and the jerky camera shots... ouch.

I have audio breakup during commercials too and I am on cable. It must be UHD, not the providers.

I didn't have any problems with audio or video, via DirecTv. I also have a Sanyo SIRT-160 reciever, feeding a Sony 61HS30.

My 4-yr old (built-in) DTC-100 gets audio breakups just about every time UHD goes to a commercial. Moving up a channel and then back fixes the problem. My SAT-HD300 and HTL-HD (LG tuners) don't have this issue.

UniversalHD seems to be devoted to repeat showings of its programs. At least repeats for everything but BSG. I would like to see the miniseries again, followed by all of these episodes.

This has nothing to do with my recent acquistion of a DVD recorder, honest. :D

Originally posted by UncD2000
My 4-yr old (built-in) DTC-100 gets audio breakups just about every time UHD goes to a commercial. Moving up a channel and then back fixes the problem. My SAT-HD300 and HTL-HD (LG tuners) don't have this issue.

I have the HD-300 and do not have this problem with BSG (although i do have problems during commercials on other HD networks, particularly FOX I think)

This show is actually really good. My wife is a big Scifi fan and I typically ignore her shows and just watch espn all day. But she got me watching SG1 (great dialoug in that show) and so I gave this one a shot too. Now I can't stop watching it.

Just my quick 2 cents.

Does anyone have any thoughts about the foreshadowed crash that began each segment of the episode, "Act of Contrition," after each commercial break?

Were the scenes Kara's premonitions. If not, they were an odd dramatic device, designed to give the audience a view of Kara's future as the story progressed.

BTW, the Sci-Fi website has an episode guide to the series. If you can resist the temptation to look ahead (each episode is summarized on a separate page, so looking at "past" episodes will not immediately cause you to see "future" ones), you'll see that each episode summary includes Quicktime clips of deleted scenes.

I thought it was a dramatic device that related both to physical crash at the end, but also to the emotional spin-out and crash associated with rekindled memories and guilt, this culminating in a confrontation with the captain.

Originally posted by Bill Shakespeare
Were the scenes Kara's premonitions. If not, they were an odd dramatic device, designed to give the audience a view of Kara's future as the story progressed.

I'm not the writer, but, I think the effect/device they were going for is the proverbial "watching one's life flash before your eyes before {...to be continued}"

Right... this episode had flashbacks within flashbacks. The crash was happening "now" and everything else was flashbacks.

Call it a "flash forward." For an extreme example, try The Limey. Great movie. :)

Mojo

I hope she runs into the Cylon on the surface. I assume the Cylon pilots are the "robots" not the "human" cylons? Have they shown any of the pilots?

Originally posted by CPanther95
I hope she runs into the Cylon on the surface. I assume the Cylon pilots are the "robots" not the "human" cylons? Have they shown any of the pilots?

That has not been shown yet.

Originally posted by PJO1966
The crash was happening "now" and everything else was flashbacks.

I think Challenged and 66 nailed it. I recorded the episode onto a DVD recorder harddrive and removed the commercial breaks, which created chapter stops. Jumping from one chapter to the next as the crash footage ends, the crash played out in sequence (with some overlapping).

The narrative episode as "flashback" during the crash makes perfect sense.

Originally posted by Bill Shakespeare
I think Challenged and 66 nailed it.

For the record, I think toothy's analysis works too - and is completely compatible with mine.

I didn't check the podcast (if it exists) for this episode, but that would be the place to go for any official explaination.

Toothy's explanation made sense, and worked for me as well.

However, the idea of a flashback during freefall (especially a flashback related to Zak's death in a Viper, and Kara's corresponding guilt) struck me as "right" as soon as I read the posts.

I liked the flashback story in addition to my suggestion. In any event, it was an interesting effect that speaks well of the care with which the show is crafted.

Was curious - has anyone with an HD version of the miniseries (damn Comcast again for not having UHD) paused to see what the call sign is of the original CAG before he gets to watch his squadron blown up? It's painted on the viper but illegible in SD...

I enjoyed the show very much, but I'm just curious if anyone can confirm what I think I know, that it would be impossible to navigate from the orbit of that planet to the Galactica without complex instruments, yes?

The...cylons...are...alive? Did I miss something in an earlier episode, or is it shocking that the pilots are apparently living creatures?

Someone else probably has a much better answer for this, but since they are able to replicate human beings, why not the ability to create living ships?

Originally posted by GregF
I enjoyed the show very much, but I'm just curious if anyone can confirm what I think I know, that it would be impossible to navigate from the orbit of that planet to the Galactica without complex instruments, yes?

Actually, less realistic seemed to be Starbuck's plugging of the hole in the cylon's ship with something. It was almost like she stuck a cork in it. I am no expert, but I'm guessing that wouldn't work.

Originally posted by toothy mako
The...cylons...are...alive? Did I miss something in an earlier episode, or is it shocking that the pilots are apparently living creatures?

The Cylons have managed to genetically engineer living beings based on the human DNA model. That's what the "human" Cylons are. And they've created some sort of organic creature that "pilots" the mechanical ship itself. There are indications the human Cylons think of the organic/mechanical Raider ships as a kind of "pet" - watch Boomer's reaction to the one Starbuck captured.

Originally posted by GregF
I enjoyed the show very much, but I'm just curious if anyone can confirm what I think I know, that it would be impossible to navigate from the orbit of that planet to the Galactica without complex instruments, yes?

Not for Starbuck! ;)

Originally posted by toothy mako
Actually, less realistic seemed to be Starbuck's plugging of the hole in the cylon's ship with something. It was almost like she stuck a cork in it. I am no expert, but I'm guessing that wouldn't work.

Not only that, but she was running out of air when she climbed in to the ship and needed that 'tube' to breathe again. That said, how the heck was she able to write star buck under the wings?

Originally posted by snatch
That said, how the heck was she able to write star buck under the wings?

Using the "pilot's" blood, of course. C'mon now, let's have a little imagination here!

Well that I could see, because there was a period where she was pulling the "brain" out of the ship and stuff. And she used the same yellow tape she used to make a splint. But I wish they would have at least had her taping some kind of PDA to "dashboard" hehe. I think leaving the orbit of a moon and finding a distant object would be like finding a microbe in a haystack. Oh well, in the words of the Mystery Science Theatre 3000 theme song, "Repeat to yourself 'It's just a show, I should really just relax!'".

First off, the Galactica was pretty close to the moon to allow for the Vipers and tankers to be in the atmosphere.

Second, the fleet would be a rather large target if she were to have flown around the moon until she saw something.

Third, "It's just a show." ;)

Still, I wish kqc6ea or one of our space experts would chime in on that likelihood of that.

I imagine when space travel gets to the point they are at they might do it the old fashion way, possibly taking note of star positions as a general map of where to go. It's probably a requirement to get a license to fly one of those things in case of instrument failure. :)

Actually, less realistic seemed to be Starbuck's plugging of the hole in the cylon's ship with something. It was almost like she stuck a cork in it. I am no expert, but I'm guessing that wouldn't work.
Why not? All it's got to hold is 6-7 psi...

There's only 14.7 psi difference between atmospheric pressure on Earth and the vacuum of space (The Apollo spacecraft and Luner Modules ran at 6 psi). Atmospheric pressure on that moon Starbuck was on couldn't have been half of Earth's pressure.

—Dan

Wait a minute, why worry about how a jacket or rag sealed the hole in the ship? Let's remark on flying with your feet on some alien tendons and your hands grabbing some main arteries to adjust pitch and yaw. Yee-haw.

Still a fun episode, but what the hell is going on with Helo?

It's true, you don't need to hold much pressure. Recall how thin the walls of the Lunar Module were.

None of the space travel of these shows holds up well to critical analysis. When you start treating the distances involved and energy required realistically, it gets hard to tell a story in a one-hour timeframe. Remember it took seven years for Cassini to reach Saturn, with four gravitational assists.

It would have been way easier to find Starbuck by orbiting the moon. The downed Cylon raider would have a massive heat bloom on that cold surface easily visible through the clouds in infrared.

So we'll just relax and enjoy the characters and story. :)

Mojo

None of the space travel of these shows holds up well to critical analysis.
What!?!?

You're saying it's just a TV show???

Blasphemy! :)

—Dan

I finally watched Sunday's episode tonight. Thought it was the best episode yet.

Crap. My Tivo (and several others, according to a thread at Tivo Community) did not record the episode tonight (5/22).

What a pisser.

Crap. My Tivo (and several others, according to a thread at Tivo Community) did not record the episode tonight (5/22).

Yep, mine would have missed it too, but I caught it in time. FWIW, my tivo didn't list the 5/22 episode in the "Upcoming episode" list, but next week's is listed.

Yep, mine would have missed it too, but I caught it in time. FWIW, my tivo didn't list the 5/22 episode in the "Upcoming episode" list, but next week's is listed.

Mine wouldn't have either.

Was there an episode last Sunday? It didn't seem like I missed anything, but I was expecting to watch last week's episode yesterday and Tivo had nothing. That's when I checked and it wasn't planning on recording last night's episode either.

I am pretty bummed that the HD Tivo missed this last episode. :(

My 8300 caught it. I haven't watched it yet though. I thought this was a strong suit of Tivo.

Last week my 8300 missed the Sunday showing of Deadwood. Thank G for Tuesdays.

Mine wouldn't have either.

Was there an episode last Sunday?

(5/15?) Yep ... but I only recently set up a season pass. I don't remember if the SP picked it up last week or if I just did a one-time recording.

I saw last night's episode and I saw the Starbuck returning in the Cylon ship Episode. There was one in between? I was pretty sure I didn't catch a 5/15 episode, but it also didn't seem like I was missing anything when I watched last night :confused:

I saw last night's episode and I saw the Starbuck returning in the Cylon ship Episode. There was one in between? I was pretty sure I didn't catch a 5/15 episode, but it also didn't seem like I was missing anything when I watched last night :confused:

Sounds like a repeat, repeat - (jumping back two episodes.) I haven't looked at last night's (5/22) episode yet ... I'll get back to ya ....

Edit: CP, I'm not sure what's going on, but it sounds like you are at least 2 weeks behind. Both the 5/15 and 5/22 recordings on my box are in the correct sequence and both come after the episode were Starbuck "captures" the Cylon raider.

I saw last night's episode and I saw the Starbuck returning in the Cylon ship Episode. There was one in between? I was pretty sure I didn't catch a 5/15 episode, but it also didn't seem like I was missing anything when I watched last night :confused:

What was last night's episode? I just finished watching them all and can confirm if you missed anything.

May 8---You Can't Go Home Again

When Kara goes missing under enemy fire, Lee and his father stir up resentment by using too many of the Galactica's scanty resources in their attempts to find her.

May 15--Litmus

When an attack by some of the new humanoid Cylons reveals their existence, a tribunal is convened to determine if any more of them are hiding among the crew of the Galactica.

May 22--Six Degrees of Seperation

Left blank in case you haven't seen it yet.

I also had a bug in my Tivo for 5/15, so it looks like I missed "Litmus". Thanks for the info Keenan.

Well hell. What are the odds that UHD will repeat the first season before showing the second season?

I'll be waiting for their July schedule.

If you missed Litmus you really didn't miss much, in fact the reviews before the following episode should cover most of it.

With the new season starting in July I'm surprised there is no Region 1 DVD release scheduled...

At least we will be getting season 2 before the UK this time. Although with 20 or so episodes in season 2 it probably will not be on UniHD until Jan-2006... :(

Anyone willing to send a DVD or VHS copy of last night's episode (???) ... please private mail me! Thanks!

Is it correct that we don't yet know UHD's plans for season 2? I can't believe that they'd make us wait until Jan 2006 to see it! They better put it on at the same time as Sci-fi ... I can't imagine having to choose between watching it in SD versus waiting 6 months!

May 8---You Can't Go Home Again

When Kara goes missing under enemy fire, Lee and his father stir up resentment by using too many of the Galactica's scanty resources in their attempts to find her.

May 15--Litmus

When an attack by some of the new humanoid Cylons reveals their existence, a tribunal is convened to determine if any more of them are hiding among the crew of the Galactica.

May 22--Six Degrees of Seperation



That is the order (and dates) that I Tivo'd the shows. I just finished watching them.

Man, I am sooooo tired of UHD's audio problems after every commercial in this series. I miss the 1st 30 to 45 seconds after every commercial. Is there anything at all that can be done about this, or do we just have to live with it?

Man, I am sooooo tired of UHD's audio problems after every commercial in this series. I miss the 1st 30 to 45 seconds after every commercial. Is there anything at all that can be done about this, or do we just have to live with it?Get a better A/V Receiver?

I have no such problems with BSG on UHD. I would guess that your receiver has a hard time with the transition from 2-channel to DD5.1

I am hoping they show Season 2 the same time as Sci-Fi. I am afraid they will repeat season 1 and then put Season 2 on when Sci-Fi is rerunning it. We'll see but as much as I like seeing it on UHD I won't wait and will watch it on Sci-Fi.

Anyone willing to send a DVD or VHS copy of last night's episode (???) ... please private mail me! Thanks!

Still hoping for a kind soul to come along ... :)

Or does anyone else have any suggestions for how to go about getting my hands on a copy (short of buying a non-region-1 DVD of the entire season)?

Man, I am sooooo tired of UHD's audio problems after every commercial in this series. I miss the 1st 30 to 45 seconds after every commercial. Is there anything at all that can be done about this, or do we just have to live with it?

I would like to have an answer as well. It is really annoying. I own a Marantz preamp. Maybe it isn't up to the task, but I have never had a problem with any other channel or show.

Ericglo

I think tbb1226 had the solution. Maybe not "better," just different. My HK receiver loses its Logic 7 7channel signal and reverts to DD with each commercial break. I think your receiver is losing the signal momentarily as the commercial with 2.0 sound changes to BSG with DD 5.1 audio. Some receivers/amps have problems, others do not.

Do you have auto polling for audio? If so, turn it off. That may stop the amp from searching for the signal. Good luck.

I have a Denon 3805 and this is the ONLY program that exhibits this problem.

I'm stumped.

What's new?

Totally weird.

My TiVo (DirecTV HD) did not record the May 22 episode at all. The "to do" list gives no reason why it bypassed that episode.

Was there really a UHD Battlestar Galactica on May 22?

Mojo

Yes, episode 7, Six Degrees of Separation.

Totally weird.

My TiVo (DirecTV HD) did not record the May 22 episode at all. The "to do" list gives no reason why it bypassed that episode.

Was there really a UHD Battlestar Galactica on May 22?

Mojo

Something was screwed up - I had to manually add it in. There were no conflicts, and the title was spelled correctly - not sure what the issue was.

I am pretty sure the May 22 episode was not tagged with the correct series_id by the data provider (Tribune/Zap2it). When I noticed Sunday night my HR10-250 was not recording it, I checked the zap2it website, and that episode did not have a series_id tag. The May 29th episode does, and it is in my ToDo list.

Mine recorded with no problem and with no interference from me.

Weird.

Six Degrees of Separation

Boltar's unmasking, decent into betrayal, and final "penetance" would have been reason enough for his complete defection to Cylon (like the '70s version) ... which is where I thought the ep going. That they pulled him back from the brink was impressive.

As a study in deception and betrayal this was handled in a much more believable manner than all of RotS's turning of Anakin Skywalker.

As a study in deception and betrayal this was handled in a much more believable manner than all of RotS's turning of Anakin Skywalker.Agreed.

This show is so much better than I thought it would be. Very interesting, very well done.

This show is so much better than I thought it would be. Very interesting, very well done.

I think that nearly everyone who's seen it feels the same way. I've seen nothing but positive reviews and press for this show, and it's well deserved. They even won over the hard-core BSG-'70's fanboys (now in their 40's and 50's of course). They were ready to riot before the miniseries debuted (remember EJO telling them not to watch the new version?). And then they all eagerly hopped onboard. :D

I think that nearly everyone who's seen it feels the same way. I've seen nothing but positive reviews and press for this show, and it's well deserved. They even won over the hard-core BSG-'70's fanboys (now in their 40's and 50's of course). They were ready to riot before the miniseries debuted (remember EJO telling them not to watch the new version?). And then they all eagerly hopped onboard. :D Actually Im in my 40's and thought the original BSG stunk.

Actually Im in my 40's and thought the original BSG stunk.Ditto that. I was a bit too old for the original which was clearly aimed at 12 year-olds. The 'new' BSG is a rare exception of where/when something supercedes an original idea/concept.

Actually Im in my 40's and thought the original BSG stunk.

Me too. Even back then at such a tender age I knew it was junk.

Me too. Even back then at such a tender age I knew it was junk.

Me three, way too hokey. This new version is light-years better.

What I dont like is hearing them have to say "frack off" Ridiculous FCC regs I suppose?

What I dont like is hearing them have to say "frack off" Ridiculous FCC regs I suppose?You of course know 'frak!' came from the original BSG? And I've been using it ever since.

What I dont like is hearing them have to say "frack off" Ridiculous FCC regs I suppose?

Not to be confused with "frell" ... Which raises the question, if a substitute word or beep gets the point/meaning across what's the fracking point? Humm ... sounds like a Penn & Teller episode. :D

You of course know 'frak!' came from the original BSG? And I've been using it ever since.

It ruined the scene in Litmus IMO

As I said in the other thread, you can probably categorize how people feel about this show. It sounds like some people think it is the second coming and the greatest show on TV. I like the show, but I think it has some obvious problems and flaws. Again while I like the show, it would not make my top five network shows (L&O, 24, Scrubs, Simpsons and Lost). Lets see how the next season unfolds.

By the way, my best friend is once again animating the cylons for some of the shows.

Ericglo

What I dont like is hearing them have to say "frack off" Ridiculous FCC regs I suppose?

Purely the option of the producers. The frackin' FCC doesn't have jurisdiction here. :)

Mojo

Is it correct that we don't yet know UHD's plans for season 2? I can't believe that they'd make us wait until Jan 2006 to see it! They better put it on at the same time as Sci-fi ... I can't imagine having to choose between watching it in SD versus waiting 6 months!If Six Degrees of Separation just aired on 22 May, then the first season finally should air on the 3rd of July, which is probably in time for the second season start on SciFi. So it's at least possible that they'll run synchronously.

i have a Q re last sunday's ep: when the cylon whispered into laura's ears, what did he say? i heard "___ is a cylon." who? adomo? frakking CC didn't work.

i have a Q re last sunday's ep: when the cylon whispered into laura's ears, what did he say? i heard "___ is a cylon." who? adomo? frakking CC didn't work.

Adama.

If Six Degrees of Separation just aired on 22 May, then the first season finally should air on the 3rd of July, which is probably in time for the second season start on SciFi. So it's at least possible that they'll run synchronously.

It would be nice but I seriously doubt it as it wouldn't be exclusive to SciFi Channel then.

As I speculated earlier, with a 22 episode second season, we probably won't get it on UniHD until Jan,2006.

Plus, the US will air the second season before the UK this time so the Region 2 DVD set will not be out for a long time as opposed to the first season where the Region 2 first season was out when season 1 aired on UniHD. What's odd is that I have yet to even see a Region 1 release date mentioned for season 1, I'll bet UniHD has US re-run rights before a DVD set comes out.

I suspect season two will air in its entirety on SciFi, before beginning its HD run on UHD.

—Dan

The end of the episode didn't make much sense to me. Starbuck is torturing him, while the President is horrified at that treatment. Then, the president has him unbound and apologizes for the treatment, Starbuck stomps off in a rage. Then after he whispers that Adama is a Cylon, the president gets mad and puts him in the airlock, while Starbuck comes back, looking all down and upset over this poor treatment the Cylon is receiving. Then she prays for him afterwards, after all of that insistence that he's just a toaster.

This seems inconsistent to me. Starbuck either thinks a Cylon is just a machine, or she doesn't. I didn't see any sudden development to explain her sudden complete turnaround in philosophy. Meanwhile, the president had a total turn of philosophy over him saying Adama is a Cylon? What's the big deal--so he made up some lie to cause trouble. How does that warrant a complete change of philosophy in dealing with him--seems to me like nuking the rest of humanity is a little bit more important than this one guy mentioning the possibility of Adama being a Cylon.

Looks like poor writing to me.

So the debate begins: Watch season 2 on Sci-Fi, standard-def, letterboxed, or hold out for UHD later in the year?

January is also likely to see start-ups of 24, probably Alias, and goodness knows what else.

Mojo

Looks like poor writing to me.Nah. My take on it is that Starbuck has a preconceived notion that Cylons are machines, but this one is so similar to a human that it makes her doubt herself. While interrogating him, she suppresses that, but when the President takes the reins, Starbuck's doubts bubble to the surface.

So the debate begins: Watch season 2 on Sci-Fi, standard-def, letterboxed, or hold out for UHD later in the year?
No debate about it: Watch the new season on SciFi, then watch it again in HD!

—Dan

The end of the episode didn't make much sense to me. Starbuck is torturing him, while the President is horrified at that treatment. Then, the president has him unbound and apologizes for the treatment, Starbuck stomps off in a rage. Then after he whispers that Adama is a Cylon, the president gets mad and puts him in the airlock, while Starbuck comes back, looking all down and upset over this poor treatment the Cylon is receiving. Then she prays for him afterwards, after all of that insistence that he's just a toaster.
I think both women had a change of heart: The President is horrified by the torture, but when he whispers that Adama is a Cylon, she came to her senses, and realized that he is a manipulative, lying machine. (His mission was not to conduct sabotage or plant nuclear devices. His intention was to plant the seed of paranoia into the highest levels as possible.)

Starbuck is the opposite: she realizes that, although still the enemy, perhaps he really does have a soul (after all, aren't our bodies just machines of a sort?). And if the Cylon does have a soul, she just wanted him to find peace in God.

—Dan

Starbuck didn't storm off in a rage... she went to see if a bomb had gone off on any of the ships. She came back and the President asked her if there had been any sign of a bomb and she shook her head no.

I think the President took a different tack than Starbuck to find out the information- she was going to destroy it anyway. Good cop, bad cop.

I think the Pres. changed gears when the Cylon told her that Adama was a Cylon. She realized she couldn't have this thing messing with people's heads. There was only one solution, destroy it as Adama suggested in the first place.

I assumed the President did what she was planning to all along. Just humanizing him to get him to talk before she flushed him.

Starbuck is the opposite: she realizes that, although still the enemy, perhaps he really does have a soul (after all, aren't our bodies just machines of a sort?). And if the Cylon does have a soul, she just wanted him to find peace in God.

—Dan
Plus she knows first hand that the Cylons are not 100% machine, remember the interior of the Cylon Raider she brought back...

I think both women had a change of heart: The President is horrified by the torture, but when he whispers that Adama is a Cylon, she came to her senses, and realized that he is a manipulative, lying machine. (His mission was not to conduct sabotage or plant nuclear devices. His intention was to plant the seed of paranoia into the highest levels as possible.)

Starbuck is the opposite: she realizes that, although still the enemy, perhaps he really does have a soul (after all, aren't our bodies just machines of a sort?). And if the Cylon does have a soul, she just wanted him to find peace in God.

—Dan

I must have missed something in some of the episodes but why do the humans worship "the gods" plural? Anyone find it very interesting when Baltor was accused of blowing up the govt defense mainframe that his cylon was trying to get him to believe in "GOD". And starbuck pulled out 2 figurines she was "praying too". Did they ever explain that aspect of their religious beliefs?

I must have missed something in some of the episodes but why do the humans worship "the gods" plural? Anyone find it very interesting when Baltor was accused of blowing up the govt defense mainframe that his cylon was trying to get him to believe in "GOD". And starbuck pulled out 2 figurines she was "praying too". Did they ever explain that aspect of their religious beliefs?

I was wondering when someone would mention this. It's interesting that the Cylons have one supreme being or God, whereas the humans worship gods, as in many of them. It makes for some possibly interesting plot lines, maybe the Cylons are the "good guys' ...??? :)

I was wondering when someone would mention this. It's interesting that the Cylons have one supreme being or God, whereas the humans worship gods, as in many of them. It makes for some possibly interesting plot lines, maybe the Cylons are the "good guys' ...??? :)

No, it would be hard to justify the purveyors of genocide as "good guys" no matter how you spun it. Ron Moore has promised that the second season will delve more deeply into the religious iconography introduced in the first. But the Cylons do appear more "religious" than the humans. When you consider that so much evil and death in human history has been justified in the name of religion, that's not so far-fetched an idea. Lots of thematic possibilities here.

, but when he whispers that Adama is a Cylon, she came to her senses, and realized that he is a manipulative, lying machine. (His mission was not to conduct sabotage or plant nuclear devices. His intention was to plant the seed of paranoia into the highest levels as possible.)



Ahh but it is a brilliant plot twist. Who kept the cylons human form a secret? Who allowed that ship that was lost back into the fold. That was the way they infiltrated wasnt it? Who wasted 1/2 of the fuel searching for one pilot? WHo arrested Baltar, the man working on the cylon detector , on the evidence from a cylon that poofed into thin air? She never saw her did she? Can you imagine when he has to explain that cylons can now magically appear and disappear?

That suggestion is really going to screw with her mind in future episodes.

From what I remember, the cylons human form was not kept a secret from the President. She knows he's not a cylon (Adama was fighting cylon's back in the original cylon wars).

No, it would be hard to justify the purveyors of genocide as "good guys" no matter how you spun it. Ron Moore has promised that the second season will delve more deeply into the religious iconography introduced in the first. But the Cylons do appear more "religious" than the humans. When you consider that so much evil and death in human history has been justified in the name of religion, that's not so far-fetched an idea. Lots of thematic possibilities here.
As you say, we "humans" have done mucho killing in the name of religion. I hope that the distinction between the two beliefs, one god vs many, does provide for a more in depth look at both of these cultures and why they have different beliefs. It could become something fundamental to the whole story although I am sure there are limits as to how far the writers will go.

From what I remember, the cylons human form was not kept a secret from the President. She knows he's not a cylon (Adama was fighting cylon's back in the original cylon wars).

She did know they could take human form. But, future events give her good reason to have concern about Adama. I don't think the episode has aired yet.

I have no problem believing that there could be a cylon Adama. Its interesting that most everything else that the tortured cylon said was true. Why not that? It could also be a "work-around" for the season cliff-hanger.

I also am very interested in how and why the president had those "flashes" of future happenings in her head. It could be that certain cylons have telepathic abilities, but probably not huh? How else could it be explained? An implant in the president, like Baltar has? Actually, none of that makes any sense. No one knew how that episode with the cylon was going to turn out (him being jettisoned) but yet, she foresaw it. So many questions, so few answers. :o

Anyone here know people at Universal HD? Any chance they may not put major spoilers into the darned promos that they cut to seamlessly? Sheesh!

Anyone here know people at Universal HD? Any chance they may not put major spoilers into the darned promos that they cut to seamlessly? Sheesh!Considering they've been doing it since Episode 1, and they're now on Episode 9, I should think we'd all be over that by now....

Tonight's the first time they've not broadcast this show in 5.1 surround. I wonder why?

Also...I am getting a little tired of the "Cylons" not being detected...why have a "Cylon Detector" and then never disclose those that are positive/"red"? At some point I am imagining EVERYONE is really a Cylon/human!!!!

Also...I am getting a little tired of the "Cylons" not being detected...why have a "Cylon Detector" and then never disclose those that are positive/"red"? At some point I am imagining EVERYONE is really a Cylon/human!!!!


Its even more frustrating now with the final scene raising doubts as to Baltar. What good is a cylon detector if Baltar is going to lie about the results? I think this is a mistake in the plot IMO, Adama wouldnt trust this to one man. And with no way to tell who is a cylon, the whole show is going to suffer.

There's probably two ways to go with the detection situation.

One: You might suspect Baltar's motives, he is slightly insane after all.

Two: Who would he tell? He certainly wouldn't want to tell a potential Cylon, and until he knew of a significantly sized group of non-Cylons (who could react quickly to the knowledge) what point would there be to tell one or two people? Especially since (within the storyline) he wouldn't know if it was possible to replace an existing character with a Cylon duplicate. We think we know that there are limited models of human-looking Cylons but do the show's "characters" know that for certain? 12 models now but what about the future?

IIRC, it was 13 models and we found out when Baltar found that out. So at least he knows.

IIRC, it was 13 modelsWith what we've been told up to this point, at least, it's 12 models. Whether or not it'll stay that way, well...I'm trying to stay spoiler-free. :)

12 models, of which we've seen 4 (Boomer, Six, and the two guys...)

—Dan

12 models, of which we've seen 4 (Boomer, Six, and the two guys...)

... Plus the "original toasters"/centurions and I'm assuming that the cylon raider ships count as one too ... so that makes 6 so far (by my count.)

I thought she told Baltar 12 "other" models. That could be a fuzzy recollection.

... Plus the "original toasters"/centurions and I'm assuming that the cylon raider ships count as one too ... so that makes 6 so far (by my count.)
I was under the impression that the 12 models were ones who looked human. But, even if the 12 does count the toasters and the raiders, there's still plenty we haven't seen.

Kudos to the producers for keeping their options open...

On another front, I too, wish UHD would quit showing the spoiler previews. They seem to think that everyone watched all of the first season on SciFi. I did (and am enjoying the HD broadcasts just as much), but many of you out there haven't, and I agree, it isn't very thoughtful of them.

—Dan

I thought she told Baltar 12 "other" models. That could be a fuzzy recollection.
I seem to remember her saying, "There are 12 models, I'm number Six"...

—Dan

I was under the impression that the 12 models were ones who looked human. But, even if the 12 does count the toasters and the raiders, there's still plenty we haven't seen.

Quoth Number Six, "That model still has it's uses ...," in reference to the "toasters." The raiders are a bit of a gray area ...

On another front, I too, wish UHD would quit showing the spoiler previews. They seem to think that everyone watched all of the first season on SciFi. I did (and am enjoying the HD broadcasts just as much), but many of you out there haven't, and I agree, it isn't very thoughtful of them.

—Dan

Are they showing season 2 previews on UniHD?

I watched this season on DVD already so I haven't been watching much UniHD, but, I watched the premiere of The 4400 on USA last night and you definitely don't want to watch that channel as in their previews for the upcoming season 2 of BG they give away all sorts of spoilers through the end of season 1, including one of the biggest ones.

Are they showing season 2 previews on UniHD?

I watched this season on DVD already so I haven't been watching much UniHD, but, I watched the premiere of The 4400 on USA last night and you definitely don't want to watch that channel as in their previews for the upcoming season 2 of BG they give away all sorts of spoilers through the end of season 1, including one of the biggest ones.

They're showing the previews on UHD as well. I was pretty pissed the first time. I have seen all the episodes. My Partner is seeing them for the first time now on UHD. He was completely spoiler-free because he is never on a computer and had no idea how the season ended. Now he knows.

Also...I am getting a little tired of the "Cylons" not being detected...why have a "Cylon Detector" and then never disclose those that are positive/"red"? At some point I am imagining EVERYONE is really a Cylon/human!!!!

I think that stems from when Baltar was testing ship Boomer....and #6 suggested she didn't know she was one, but her Cylon part would probably react badly and also most likely kill him. His conclusion: he will only see green from then on!

He could leave the Galactica, then call Adama and let him know Boomer is a Cylon if he's that frightened.

He should've said Tigh's wife was a Cylon, even if she wasn't ;)

I havent watched uhd at all.. so will someone please pm me the spoilers :)

thanks

jim

I havent watched uhd at all.. so will someone please pm me the spoilers :)
If you watched the season finale on SciFi, you already know the spoiler...

He could leave the Galactica, then call Adama and let him know Boomer is a Cylon if he's that frightened.

He should've said Tigh's wife was a Cylon, even if she wasn't ;)

Tigh's wife is a real piece of work, isn't she?!

BTW, is there a real Boomer....?

Considering they've been doing it since Episode 1, and they're now on Episode 9, I should think we'd all be over that by now....



Well you thought wrong, it's a limitation of using "we" in the condescending manner heh.

Tigh's wife is a real piece of work, isn't she?!

BTW, is there a real Boomer....?

From all indications so far, there is no "human" Boomer. She is merely one of the 12 models of Cylons.

He could leave the Galactica, then call Adama and let him know Boomer is a Cylon if he's that frightened.

He should've said Tigh's wife was a Cylon, even if she wasn't ;)

Shes just as destructive as one. As for Boomer I think they need 100 more :D

Any news on whether or not Season 2, which starts to air soon on Sci Fi (first this time and not in the UK) will be shown on UniversalHD? Man I'd love to hear SciFi is going HD in the next month.

From all indications so far, there is no "human" Boomer. She is merely one of the 12 models of Cylons.
I would have to go back and watch every episode, but from what I remember, there isn't a human Boomer, or, if there was, the Cylons switched her out and are holding or killed the human one and never told us about it in the show. She must have been a Cylon before the original attack was made.

As for Boomer I think they need 100 more :D
Pay close attention to the last or second to last episode, can't remember which one, but you'll see some really nice things in it... ;)

Any news on whether or not Season 2, which starts to air soon on Sci Fi (first this time and not in the UK) will be shown on UniversalHD? Man I'd love to hear SciFi is going HD in the next month.
I'm sure it will shown on UniHD, but most likely only after it's run on SciFi.

Pay close attention to the last or second to last episode, can't remember which one, but you'll see some really nice things in it... ;)

Speaking of which, nice touch to still have #6 bent over the table with her dress above her hips when Starbuck comes in to the lab. While everyone might not necessarily like the image, it shows the quality of this production.

Speaking of which, nice touch to still have #6 bent over the table with her dress above her hips when Starbuck comes in to the lab. While everyone might not necessarily like the image, it shows the quality of this production.
I liked that image just fine... :D

I would have to go back and watch every episode, but from what I remember, there isn't a human Boomer, or, if there was, the Cylons switched her out and are holding or killed the human one and never told us about it in the show. She must have been a Cylon before the original attack was made.
I think she mentioned that her parents were killed in some kind of rebellion. Sounded like a cover story she uses to prevent anyone trying to dig into her non-existent past. Probably never was a real Boomer.

Speaking of which, nice touch to still have #6 bent over the table with her dress above her hips when Starbuck comes in to the lab. While everyone might not necessarily like the image, it shows the quality of this production.
Yes, that was definitely a nice picture. :p

When that episode was initially shown on Sci-Fi, they dropped a big parental warning before it began. When it was rebroacast last week, the warning was gone. But it appeared to be unedited because Num6 was still shown with her dress hiked up.

I have several episodes to watch on the Tivo, so I only skimmed this thread. I did not see any posts about the upcoming BSG Marathon on UHD (http://www.universalhd.com/Schedule/search.bravo?month=2005-12&keyword=Battlestar&start=today)

From the UHD website:

Sat, July 9 10:00 PM 33
Sat, July 9 11:00 PM WATER
Sat, July 9 12:00 AM BASTILLE DAY
Sat, July 9 1:00 AM ACT OF CONTRITION
Sat, July 9 2:00 AM YOU CAN'T GO HOME AGAIN
Sat, July 9 3:00 AM LITMUS
Sat, July 9 4:00 AM SIX DEGREES OF SEPERATION
Sat, July 9 5:00 AM FLESH AND BONE
Sun, July 10 6:00 AM TIGH ME UP, TIGH ME DOWN
Sun, July 10 7:00 AM THE HAND OF GOD
Sun, July 10 8:00 AM COLONIAL DAY
Sun, July 10 9:00 AM KOBOL'S LAST GLEAMING, PART 1
Sun, July 10 10:00 AM KOBOL'S LAST GLEAMING, PART 2

Sun, July 10 11:00 AM to Mon, July 11, 12:00 AM BSG MARATHON

Thu, July 14 6:00 PM to Fri, July 15 7:00 AM BSG MARATHON

Fri, July 15 7:00 AM to 8:00 PM BSG MARATHON

There was no mention of the three-hour movie.

I have several episodes to watch on the Tivo, so I only skimmed this thread. I did not see any posts about the upcoming BSG Marathon on UHD (http://www.universalhd.com/Schedule/search.bravo?month=2005-12&keyword=Battlestar&start=today)

Heh, anyone want to archive all of this on DVHS for me? :) :)

Heh, anyone want to archive all of this on DVHS for me? :) :)


Sure, send your recorder by Fed-Ex to me. :D

Heh, anyone want to archive all of this on DVHS for me? :) :)
If you have a Region-Free DVD player, the whole season is available on DVD.

If you have a Region-Free DVD player, the whole season is available on DVD.

Heh, I know, almost bought it when I went through Heathrow a few weeks back, but have decided on a DVD moratorium (especially since I have the series archived to Tivo DVDs anyway). Did buy the miniseries as the SD PQ was barely watchable live and compressed it got worse.

Moot request anyway as 80% of those watching it I suspect are using D* Tivo anyway given Universal HD doesn't seem to be on much of anything else with a Firewire output. Oh well, I'm sure eventually those of us with Comcast will get to see Tricia Helfer in HD. :) Ahh, for the days of Cablevision in Boston...

Heh, anyone want to archive all of this on DVHS for me? :) :)I'd do it, but my UHD briefly glitches every few minutes. Probably not worth the cost of tapes though...just get the box set.

I just got the D* HD TiVo and was excited to see BSG was broadcast on Univ HD. When will they broadcast season 2 of BSG? Is it worth skipping the Sci-Fi airing and waiting for the HD version?

I just got the D* HD TiVo and was excited to see BSG was broadcast on Univ HD. When will they broadcast season 2 of BSG? Is it worth skipping the Sci-Fi airing and waiting for the HD version?

Season 2 premieres Friday, July 15th. Some here had the resoluteness required to wait. Of course, they actually get the undercarried UHD network and thus, an HD broadcast to which they could look forward, the lucky ba$tards! Not that I'm bitter or anything. ;)

Anyone hear anything about the R1 DVD release?

I would watch it on Sci-Fi then rewatch it on UHD. If you skip Sci-Fi you may be exposed to unwanted spoilers. UHD has been running promos for the next season that include MAJOR spoilers from the season finale, which has yet to air on UHD.

I don't watch the UHD promos at all, and fortunately I haven't seen any spoilers. Most of us that waited for UHD would consider watching Season 2 on SciFi as a massive spoiler in and of itself. I want to watch it in HD - not rewatch it in HD.

I don't watch the UHD promos at all, and fortunately I haven't seen any spoilers. Most of us that waited for UHD would consider watching Season 2 on SciFi as a massive spoiler in and of itself. I want to watch it in HD - not rewatch it in HD.
Same here, SciFI channel doesn't exist in my world.. :p but Jan-2006 is a long ways away...and having the show air in the US first this time means the Region 2 DVD will be out even later. :(

Season 2 premieres Friday, July 15th. Some here had the resoluteness required to wait. Of course, they actually get the undercarried UHD network and thus, an HD broadcast to which they could look forward, the lucky ba$tards! Not that I'm bitter or anything. ;)

Anyone hear anything about the R1 DVD release?
It's odd that no Region 1 release has been announced. I'll bet it's some sort of rights issue. Maybe UHD wants to milk the re-runs of season one while season two is airing on SciFI. I'm not sure when the show completed it's run in the UK but the Region 2 DVD was out March 28, 2005.

It's odd that no Region 1 release has been announced. I'll bet it's some sort of rights issue. Maybe UHD wants to milk the re-runs of season one while season two is airing on SciFI. I'm not sure when the show completed it's run in the UK but the Region 2 DVD was out March 28, 2005.

That is so totally unfair. What do they got that we ain't got? Probably some U.N. plot against us. John Bolton'll straighten 'em out! :p

"It's odd that no Region 1 release has been announced."

You may want to take a look at The Digital Bits site, seems there might be some news!

;-)

That is so totally unfair. What do they got that we ain't got? Probably some U.N. plot against us. John Bolton'll straighten 'em out! :p
;) :D

"It's odd that no Region 1 release has been announced."

You may want to take a look at The Digital Bits site, seems there might be some news!

;-)
It's odd that BB would list it as the UK version, plus 7/26 is only about a month away, you would think there would be more info available at sites that track that sort of stuff. I looked at a couple earlier and nobody had anything on it.

It's nice to see Twin Peaks: Season Two is underway.. :)

archiguy, depending on what you want to see and when, you might consider a region free player. I love having the ability to play DVDs from everywhere around the world. I've seen inexpensive ones for around $100-200.....and as it so happens, I have one of the very best quality ones for sale right now... :p

"It's odd that BB would list it as the UK version, plus 7/26 is only about a month away, you would think there would be more info available at sites that track that sort of stuff. I looked at a couple earlier and nobody had anything on it."


Frankly, I could care less, got it on TiVo > DVD! None the less folks SHOULD look around before posting here. All this does, is make AVS more worthless and sadly, political.

None the less folks SHOULD look around before posting here. All this does, is make AVS more worthless and sadly, political.
What on earth are you talking about...?

I see on NBC they have scheduled for Sat Jul 9 8-11PM, HD broadcasts of Battlestar Galactica episodes: The Hand of God (60min) and Kobol's Last Gleaming (120min) - the latter must be a combined version of the original 2 part seaon finale.

- the latter must be a combined version of the original 2 part seaon finale.That is correct.

Kobol's Last Gleaming, Part 1. Passionate and edgy ensemble acting, tight editing and Starbuck sex. Tough act to follow.

Not a chance I'll be watching season 2 in Sci-Fi SD ...

I see on NBC they have scheduled for Sat Jul 9 8-11PM, HD broadcasts of Battlestar Galactica episodes: The Hand of God (60min) and Kobol's Last Gleaming (120min) - the latter must be a combined version of the original 2 part seaon finale.
Huh? BSG on NBC in HD? :confused: Surely you meant UHD.

Huh? BSG on NBC in HD? :confused: Surely you meant UHD.

Nope I meant regular free broadcast network NBC! Check the NBC schedule on titan-tv for Sat night Jul 9.

Woot! Only 10 more episodes to go in HD for me now. :)

How could Starbuck sleep with that splineless wuss? Hes more woman that she is. :rolleyes:

OK, I'm still behind curve, watching the Tivo. I've tried to avoid posts discussing the episodes, so this may be old news....

During "Colonial Day" there was a promo for the second season of BSG that included a scene with something major (from the end of the first season) revealed. What's with UHD spoiling the first season for those of us who are watching it for the first time????

Edited to remove questionable spoiler....

Some of us are trying to avoid spoilers such as that. :rolleyes:

For future reference, you can FF through UHD's commercials if you're watching via Tivo.

I see on NBC they have scheduled for Sat Jul 9 8-11PM, HD broadcasts of Battlestar Galactica episodes: The Hand of God (60min) and Kobol's Last Gleaming (120min) - the latter must be a combined version of the original 2 part seaon finale.

Well, at least those of us belonging to the Great Unwashed, whose providers stubbornly refuse to carry UHD, will get to see at least 3 hours of BSG in HD. Whoo-hoo!

Wouldn't it be great if NBC just decided to show the entire first season in HD on Saturday nights (a ratings sinkhole anyway)?? Yeah, that was a rhetorical question.

Well to those of you planning to watch season 2 in SD please remember this is the HD No Spoilers thread hehe.

Some of us are trying to avoid spoilers such as that. :rolleyes:

For future reference, you can FF through UHD's commercials if you're watching via Tivo.

Panther, first, I hope my vague reference is not considered a spoiler. Second, I skip promos/commercials with the Tivo. This either came on too fast, or was right at a skip point. :eek:

OK, I'm still behind curve, watching the Tivo. I've tried to avoid posts discussing the episodes, so this may be old news....

During "Colonial Day" there was a promo for the second season of BSG that included a scene with ***********************. What's with UHD spoiling the first season for those of us who are watching it for the first time????
Probably because they would prefer you watch the second season on SciFi, a network that has commercials. One of these days, hopefully, HD viewers will become important enough to advertisers that they will realize that these viewers, (speaking for myself of course but I'm sure others feel the same way), simply won't watch a program unless it's in HD, regardless of the content. They could have the greatest show of all time on SciFi, but I won't watch it unless they present it in HD. Someday our eyeballs will be worth money, but until that happens HD viewers will remain a secondary, or even worse consideration and we'll have to put up with this crap.

Well, at least those of us belonging to the Great Unwashed, whose providers stubbornly refuse to carry UHD, will get to see at least 3 hours of BSG in HD. Whoo-hoo!

Wouldn't it be great if NBC just decided to show the entire first season in HD on Saturday nights (a ratings sinkhole anyway)?? Yeah, that was a rhetorical question.
Yes, it was. Why would NBC do something smart like that...? :rolleyes: :D

OK, I'm still behind curve, watching the Tivo. I've tried to avoid posts discussing the episodes, so this may be old news....

During "Colonial Day" there was a promo for the second season of BSG that included a scene with something major (from the end of the first season) revealed. What's with UHD spoiling the first season for those of us who are watching it for the first time????

Edited to remove questionable spoiler....


I had the same complaint earlier. I was too slow on the FF. I've seen them all already but my Partner is watching them on UHD for the first time. He's never on-line and had avoided spoilers, until that promo came on. I'm still miffed about that one. As a result, I haven't been watching the little interview segments they've started showing to promote the new season on Sci-Fi.
I'll have to go back afterwards.

I've watched this series from the beginning but still don't get the blond cylon/Dr. Baltar thing, did she implant a chip in him, or was this never really explained?

Never explained.

I think there is one spot in the miniseries where she says she implanted a chip in him - it was never mentioned in the series, but I am pretty sure they addressed it in the mini series..

jim

Nope, he never gets an explanation of it in the miniseries. Not even in the deleted scenes (I just checked). He does accuse her of being a chip in his head, but there's no confirmation. In fact, in the commentary during the miniseries the writers and director talk about how they had originally written it with the idea that she was a chip in the head, and then Moore actually said well good, maybe he's having a mental breakdown and the writers felt quite lucky they had never inserted any lines confirming it. And in fact, they later felt that it is critical that neither he nor we know exactly what's going on.

And its not even in the second season spoilers that are starting to show up on the net. :)

Nope, he never gets an explanation of it in the miniseries. Not even in the deleted scenes (I just checked). He does accuse her of being a chip in his head, but there's no confirmation. In fact, in the commentary during the miniseries the writers and director talk about how they had originally written it with the idea that she was a chip in the head, and then Moore actually said well good, maybe he's having a mental breakdown and the writers felt quite lucky they had never inserted any lines confirming it. And in fact, they later felt that it is critical that neither he nor we know exactly what's going on.

And its not even in the second season spoilers that are starting to show up on the net. :)

I think it is all related to what actually happend to Baltar on Caprica. In the mini-series, #6 just says, "get down" as the nuclear blast crashes through Baltar's house. The next time we see him, he has a little scratch before getting on the rescue ship. Amazing how hiding behind a Cylon can save you from an atomic blast.

The Cylons often talk about not fearing death because they just switch their consciousness to another body. Wonder if Baltar has ever tried his "Cylon detector" on himself. The plot seems to indicate that Baltar is human....but "some are Cylons and don't know it....".

Seems, season 1 will be on sale at Best Buy on or about 7/22/05 @ aprox $70. If this is not old news?

Seems, season 1 will be on sale at Best Buy on or about 7/22/05 @ aprox $70. If this is not old news?

Or not real news at all. 7/22 is not a Tuesday (new DVDs drop on Tuesdays), and neither amazon.com nor DVDpricesearch.com have a release date for the new series. Also note that around $70 is what the original series on DVD goes for most places. It's out now.

The new season 1 does drop in Australia on August 17.

Or not real news at all. 7/22 is not a Tuesday (new DVDs drop on Tuesdays), and neither amazon.com nor DVDpricesearch.com have a release date for the new series.It's a temporary Best Buy exclusive. Best Buy gets it on 7/26 for $69.99, and then other retailers (Amazon, etc.) will start selling them on 9/20.

"Finally, our friends over at TVShowsonDVD have learned that Universal's Battlestar Galactica: Season 1 (which we mentioned here last week) will be a Best Buy exclusive title on DVD starting on 7/26. The set will SRP for $69.99 and will not be available from other retailers until 9/20, giving Best Buy a 2-month exclusive period. Wonder how much they paid Universal for that?"

This news piece was on The Digital Bits today, Thanks Adam for the back-up.

"Or not real news at all. 7/22 is not a Tuesday (new DVDs drop on Tuesdays), and neither amazon.com nor DVDpricesearch.com have a release date for the new series. Also note that around $70 is what the original series on DVD goes for most places. It's out now."

Please READ the Digital Bits piece.......... YMMV!