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au revoir 08-11-07, 11:57 AM Practice what I preach???
Read all of BKChurch's posts, going back 6 months, asking people what to buy, then arguing their opinions, then asking again about another TV, then arguing... All of the questions he asks have been answered many times, and it's just become an excercise in annoyance for him.
I have to admit I kind of agree. It's a little bit like having your neighbor ask you to help him build a shed in his yard. You go over and spend some of your weekend pounding nails and lugging a few 2 x 4's around. A few weeks later you find out he tore down the shed.
"Wow, why did he do that?" you wonder.
Then a few weeks later he asks for help in building another shed, so you help him again, but he tears that one down too. Eventually you quit helping him, but he keeps getting other people to help him, but eventually tears down whatever was built a few days later.
So the way I see it, WJonathan, he has every right to keep asking you and anyone else he wants for help.
But you have every right to complain that your time and effort was essentially wasted, and to warn other people that they are probably wasting their time too.
Just my .02 cents, FWIW.
WJonathan 08-11-07, 11:59 AM So this Samsung is not capable of showing at least 1280 x 720? What the? How is that possible? I thought I paid for a HDTV? :confused:
Well...the NTSC board considers anything above 480p vertical to be High Definition. So when a TV manufacturer says the set is HD in 1080i they are telling the truth. Even though the set doesn't reproduce the same number of horizontal lines in a 4:3 aspect that we normally associate with 1080i resolution. Usually an HD CRT TV does around 800 h-lines coupled with 1080 vertical at 4:3 ratio. So games will still look great off a 360 or PS3, but you can't do the high resolutions coming off a PC video card.
FBI Agent 08-11-07, 12:15 PM Well...the NTSC board considers anything above 480p vertical to be High Definition. So when a TV manufacturer says the set is HD in 1080i they are telling the truth. Even though the set doesn't reproduce the same number of horizontal lines in a 4:3 aspect that we normally associate with 1080i resolution. Usually an HD CRT TV does around 800 h-lines coupled with 1080 vertical at 4:3 ratio. So games will still look great off a 360 or PS3, but you can't do the high resolutions coming off a PC video card.
So my friend is screwed then just because it's a HDTV CRT or have you actually tested on this particular model? I would like to know because this pisses me off a bit as I gave this HDTV to my friend as a present just to find out NOW this doesn't show 1280x720? :mad:
ShiningArmor 08-11-07, 01:45 PM Hello,
New Poster here. I used this forum to research and make my decision regarding buying a 3093WH and I am very happy with my recent purchase. I do have one question though.
I have my DVD player plugged into Component 1 and most DVDs look best on the Zoom1 setting however, I have noticed that every 30 minutes the TV automatically puts it back to 16:9. It's not a huge problem but an annoyance I would like to fix if possible. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
P.S. If the solution involves something in the service menu, please explain how to get to that because I'm not sure, this is my first new TV purchase in almost 10 years.
WJonathan 08-11-07, 03:10 PM So my friend is screwed then just because it's a HDTV CRT or have you actually tested on this particular model? I would like to know because this pisses me off a bit as I gave this HDTV to my friend as a present just to find out NOW this doesn't show 1280x720? :mad:
How is he screwed? If he was planning on using it exclusively as a PC monitor, well, that wasn't the intended use of the set.
fleaman 08-12-07, 02:57 PM Practice what I preach???
Read all of BKChurch's posts, going back 6 months, asking people what to buy, then arguing their opinions, then asking again about another TV, then arguing... All of the questions he asks have been answered many times, and it's just become an excercise in annoyance for him.
I don't know your history with BKChurch, I just found the specific comment you posted redundant on a AV forum:
Originally Posted by WJonathan
WHO CARES WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK??? Test the sets on your own, and buy the one that best suits your needs! What is the point in asking what other people think you should buy?
My comment was in response to that specific quote.
I did not know that it was suppose to be directed to only BKChurch and that all others should ignore.
Fleaman
Yamazaki 08-12-07, 11:49 PM I am a relatively new slim fit 3093 owner since 7/26/07 and being new to HD tv's in general I would to know if the following issues are normal. I have done my research before buying my TV after being impressed by my friend's gigantic SONY CRT but I dunno.. I'll just get to the point.
1. The constant noisy static discharge, is that a normal effect with the TV?
2. Playing an typical dark game, ( The Darkness for PS3), moving around in overly dark scenes I can't see much of anything until standing stationary, same deal with looking up in the game. All of this running at 720p/1080i even in a pitch black room the screen would effectively lighten when I stopped moving.
3. The sound I cranked up to no more than 25 and on both the movie, standard, and custom setting I get noticeable wavy lines in whatever light sections of the screen that shows. I cut the volume down and the distortion disappears, all this with the SRS setting enabled. I have custom settings for deep bass so its much, much more noticeable when I use that setting. Really wtf is that? I am just expecting too much out of the speakers? I fully intend to get a good home theater system but for now I can't.
4. Somewhat curved images near the very bottom and blurry text near the edges. Its highly tolerable though to myself but what can be done to correct this. I have no idea on how to access any internal menu screens.
5. This concerns me the most. I really don't use the tv for long periods of time, (2-4 hours at the most, hell I cut off the surge protector after use), but I have noticed a high pitched noice coming from the tv within the last two weeks. Its comes and goes but I'd hate to have to deal with a repair center.
Any knowledge on these issue will surely be appreciated. Thank you in advance.
Oh I did notice the white creeping in from all four corners at first but its has stopped completely over time.
WJonathan 08-13-07, 11:48 AM I would stop at #s 1 and 3 and conclude you have a defective set. I have heard of this noise/interference problem with the Slimfits. It's not "normal" but unfortunately more common on these Slimfits than other CRTs. This and the other problems you mention make the set unacceptable IMO. I would get a refund or replacement however possible. Dont waste time trying to fix it.
I have a 3082WH set and have had great luck with it till now - Now it switched to "Dynamic" picture mode every 15-20 minutes and automatically resets the ratio to 16:9.
Odd, because it happens no matter what ratio I am in or signal I am using. Playing XBox 360 in 16:9 it will switch, watching OTA HD it will switch, watching a standard 4:3 cable feed (the most annoying) it will switch to 16:9.
I have tried resetting the TV in the standard options menu, but it still resets itself to Dynamic every so often.
Any words of advice? Is there an odd setting that maybe a friend or cat set accidentally or is it maybe an over charged transitor of some sort? Thanks in advance for your response.
ControlledBurn 08-14-07, 01:53 PM I have a 3082WH set and have had great luck with it till now - Now it switched to "Dynamic" picture mode every 15-20 minutes and automatically resets the ratio to 16:9.
Odd, because it happens no matter what ratio I am in or signal I am using. Playing XBox 360 in 16:9 it will switch, watching OTA HD it will switch, watching a standard 4:3 cable feed (the most annoying) it will switch to 16:9.
I have tried resetting the TV in the standard options menu, but it still resets itself to Dynamic every so often.
Any words of advice? Is there an odd setting that maybe a friend or cat set accidentally or is it maybe an over charged transitor of some sort? Thanks in advance for your response.
Your TV is in the Store Display mode. I had this problem with my Samsung LCD when I bought it, so I'm not sure how to fix it on the 3082. Can't seem to find the fix right this moment though.
Hmmm - Thanks for the direction. How did you solve for your LCD? Was there a setting you changed? I can't seem to find a setting anywhere that would address auto aspect ratio changes or such.
ControlledBurn 08-15-07, 10:39 PM Hmmm - Thanks for the direction. How did you solve for your LCD? Was there a setting you changed? I can't seem to find a setting anywhere that would address auto aspect ratio changes or such.
It wasn't a setting in the menu, I looked it up on Samsung's website. I couldn't find anything for the 3082, but here's the instructions for my LCD it may work for you
If your LCD TV doesn't retain your settings, it may be that the TV is in Shop Mode. Essentially, Shop Mode returns the TV automatically to its default settings in thirty minutes. It is usually used by retailers who want to demonstrate functions to customers, and then want the TV to return to its default settings without the bother of manually resetting the TV.
2006 Models (LN-S Series)
To remove your TV from Shop Mode, hold the Menu button on the TV (not on the remote) down for three seconds. After you have removed your TV from Shop Mode, it should retain your settings.
Note: Shop Mode is activated in the same manner: Pressing and holding the Menu button on your TV for three seconds. To avoid accidentally setting your TV to Shop Mode, avoid pressing and holding the Menu button for three seconds or more.
2007 Models
If you have a 2007 Samsung TV (HPT series, FPT series, LNT series, HLT series, TR series, or TXT series), and your TV keeps returning to the Dynamic mode within thirty minutes, it means that your TV is set to Shop Mode.
Removing Your TV from Shop Mode
First, confirm your TV is in Shop Mode
1. Press the INFO button on your remote control. A list of settings appears.
2. See if the Picture Mode setting is set to Shop Mode.
To remove your TV from Shop Mode:
1. Press the Volume button on the side panel of your TV. The volume bar is displayed on the screen.
2. Press the Menu button on the side panel of your TV for about seven seconds. If Dynamic or Dynamic Mode is displayed on the screen, your TV has been removed from Shop Mode.
Note: You may want to press the INFO button on your remote again to confirm you TV is no longer in Shop Mode.
Edit: Just tested this on my 3082 and it works.
i love you - even the call center couldn't help. They were going to send a technician later this week. Must've been the kids.
Thanks!
squallsan 08-18-07, 08:35 PM Hi everyone I'm new here...YAY! I just picked up the 3093 today and WOW! This is my first HD set so I'm a total n00b. I have a couple of questions, which may sound really stupid but please indulge my ignorance.
I noticed that while using Coaxial I cannot use the wide fit picture setting, only on component, why is that?
Also does the TV just auto sense whats coming through via component? As I have yet to see anything where to set from say 720 to 1080i. I had my Xbox 360 set to 1080i and got a strange green wave effect. Set it to 720p and it went away. Is my set actually set to 720p based on my Xbox settings, or do I have to do something extra in the menu for the TV to notice. The same with 480p?
Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks everyone!
squallsan 08-21-07, 10:39 AM Guess no one knows
LoneWolf15 08-23-07, 12:58 AM Guess no one knows
Or perhaps 14 hours is too short a time to expect an answer. I'm sure your patience will eventually be rewarded.
huked0nfonicks 08-23-07, 04:38 PM Hi so, as I've had problems with my Toshiba 26HF15 (see other tread) I was wondering if this would be a good replacement. Im looking to buy a used one on craigslist, preferably the 27" but if theres a cheap 30" ill pounce on it. I've read about the geometry issues and some problems with the quality going down over time, so if I could get a full synopsis that'd be great. Assuming buy it used that means that I'll check it out first so thats out of the way. if this isn't best please tell me a good cheap 26-30" HDTV you can find used for around 300.
Joseph3 08-25-07, 04:02 AM I have been thinking about buying this TV for at least three months now. Last night I finnaly pulled the trigger. I stopped at BB and picked up the TXT-3093WH with a 4 year warranty for a little under six hundred dollars. Once I got the TV home, and my gaming machines were plugged into it, I fired it up. Had to go through some setup screens then selected HDMI1 and BAAMM!! The HD goodness of Bioshock running in 1080i splatterd all over the thirty inch widescreen.
I am very happy with the way my 360 looks on this TV. I dont have an HDMI cable for my PS3, or component cables for my wii yet, but they still look great. I have already orderd both of those cables and they are in route.
After my initial testing I started looking at the menus and changing some settings. I have changed Dynamic to standard on all sources and also turned Contrast down to 50. I prefer the PQ with the initial settings but I am assuming this should be done for the first 100 hours of operation.
I then tried to pull up some broadcast TV, but I had no luck. I need a good HD antenna. Throw me some suggestions.
I have read off and on in this thread about this TV, and I know of alot of the problems this TV can have. My TV is not any different, it does have some flaws, but they are minor. This is not the perfect HDTV but IMHO this TV looks better than alot of LCDs out there that cost even more. I was scared to buy this TV after reading this forum, but I just had to go with what my eyes and my wallet told me.
WJonathan 08-25-07, 10:33 AM I agree it's a good compromise TV, when cost and standard definition signals are a concern.
As far as OTA antennas, step #1 is to go to antennaweb. Plug in your address, record the distance and direction of the stations you want to receive, and come back here with the numbers.
Hi guys well my TX-T2793H tv is dead. I stopped using it for a week or so and started using back my insignia. Placed it in the hall one day to watch some dvd on it but started watching boxing and while i was watching boxing the darn tv just shut off left one green line through the tv and went off and would never come back on. When its put on u hear like the sound kicks in but no visual but it kicks right back off. The is is like the 3rd time iv'e ever put on the tv and its brand new and only have it for like a month now. Well seeing like how i live out of the US and the tv was bough there and i already throw away the box i had to take it to my local tv repair shop. I got some feedback from them in a few days and they told me that the "Vertical Deflection" I.C. went bad and that is responsible for opening the image vertically. So now i need to buy a I.C. Model "STV9381" at location "IC 30L" so now i need one of those. If anyone here knows where i can buy such an IC online please let me know thanks.
And I've had my Insignia 27" hdtv for over a year now with ziltch problems.....as for your question about where to find that ic-you might try contacting Samsung directly.
WJonathan 08-25-07, 03:25 PM Hi guys well my TX-T2793H tv is dead. ...
Check this out:
http://pdf1.alldatasheet.com/datasheet-pdf/view/86316/STMICROELECTRONICS/STV9381.html
It looks like the failed part is a power amplifier for the vertical deflection. That doesn't answer your question of course...
Samsungparts.com has that amp available for $15 here: http://www.samsungparts.com/search/search.asp
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Sometimes it makes more sense to replace an entire board than individual chips. Did your guy give you a board number?
Joseph3 08-27-07, 07:56 PM I spent all weekend playing games on my TXT3093WH. XBOX 360 looks very good on this TV. PS3 looks horrible with the composite cables that come with the system. I didnt notice the first time I tested the PS3 on this TV but the text in games, and in the main menu is almost unreadable. The graphics look very washed out and blurry. After finding this I checked the Wii becuase it is hooked up to the TV using composite too. No problem with the Wii all text readable. Image quality is actualy pretty good. I even checked in the options on the PS3, and I didnt find anything that helped. Now I am not sure if this has anything to do with this TV or is the PS3. Becuase the TV I had the PS3 hooked up to last was very old and all images were very blurry and nothing was readable. Now that I have the HDMI cable for my PS3 things look alot different. After spending a few hours playing I have decided that the PS3 actualy is putting out a better image than the 360.
OK I checked out antennaweb. I also read a bit about antennas (not much)and found out that my old amplified antenna would work for my TV. It works pretty good. Im in an apartment and my only options are indoor or I could get away with stashing one in the attic since I have access. Now my old TV doesnt have an antenna so I am still going to need to buy a new one. Knowing that I cant use an outdoor one and that I want to be able to pick up as many channels as possible, is there an antenna you can recomend? Do ya realy need to know distance and direction to set your antenna up? Last question and this one will probably make me sound stupid but im asking it anyway. I have cable internet couldnt I get a splicer for that cable route it into my TV and use that for an antenna?
Nabashim 08-28-07, 03:48 AM Well, I'll start this by stating that this forum pretty much has had the best answers to my questions, even though I've been lurking a lot. I've had a Samsung Slimfit 30" for about a year and a half. I've also had my local TV repair person attempt to fix the geometry issues with my TV. He really didn't do a good job, so I did it myself and sorta fixed the issue. The recurring problem is that the geometry will...change in accordance to the colors on the TV. Let's assume that there is a strobe on TV, the image expands and contracts with the light. Ah, in a better example, when playing Madden '08 on my 360, the bottom score info just seems to change so rapidly depending who's near that ticker.
Is it broken, can it be fixed? Is there a particular menu in the service mode I should look at? Should I give up on it and get a cheap LCD? This has been a problem for far too long and I'm fixing it one way or the other hopefully by the end of the week.
I also have 2 other small problems, one is the purple corner thing, which can be fixed by and external degauss, and I also get 2 large discolored spots on near the center of my TV when it's on a white or light colored background for an extended period of time (30 minutes). Will a degauss fix this as well?
Looking forward to all your advice. Thanks in advance.
WJonathan 08-28-07, 09:58 AM I spent all weekend playing games on my TXT3093WH. XBOX 360 looks very good on this TV. PS3 looks horrible with the composite cables that come with the system. I didnt notice the first time I tested the PS3 on this TV but the text in games, and in the main menu is almost unreadable. The graphics look very washed out and blurry. After finding this I checked the Wii becuase it is hooked up to the TV using composite too. No problem with the Wii all text readable. Image quality is actualy pretty good. I even checked in the options on the PS3, and I didnt find anything that helped. Now I am not sure if this has anything to do with this TV or is the PS3. Becuase the TV I had the PS3 hooked up to last was very old and all images were very blurry and nothing was readable. Now that I have the HDMI cable for my PS3 things look alot different. After spending a few hours playing I have decided that the PS3 actualy is putting out a better image than the 360.
OK I checked out antennaweb. I also read a bit about antennas (not much)and found out that my old amplified antenna would work for my TV. It works pretty good. Im in an apartment and my only options are indoor or I could get away with stashing one in the attic since I have access. Now my old TV doesnt have an antenna so I am still going to need to buy a new one. Knowing that I cant use an outdoor one and that I want to be able to pick up as many channels as possible, is there an antenna you can recomend? Do ya realy need to know distance and direction to set your antenna up? Last question and this one will probably make me sound stupid but im asking it anyway. I have cable internet couldnt I get a splicer for that cable route it into my TV and use that for an antenna?
As far as the splicer, that generally won't work, because you need a very high quality combiner that is expensive and hard to find. The cable signals will overlap and overrun the OTA signals. You'll have to run your cable through some type of set top box, then into the components or HDMI input. Then the antenna can go into the coax input.
Yes, direction and distance matter when purchasing an antenna. If your HDTV towers are grouped together in a narrow direction from your antenna, the Zenith/Philips silver sensor is the one you want. If the towers are spread out, try a $6 rabbit ear style antenna sold at Big Lots. If the towers are 10+ miles away, Channel Master makes some nice array antennas for under $40. You could mount one in the attic.
BLiTzNicK 08-29-07, 06:32 PM The recurring problem is that the geometry will...change in accordance to the colors on the TV. Let's assume that there is a strobe on TV, the image expands and contracts with the light. Ah, in a better example, when playing Madden '08 on my 360, the bottom score info just seems to change so rapidly depending who's near that ticker.
Mine has the same problem. I'm still waiting for a replacement. They are sending a 3082. It's unfixable.
jonnyboy 08-30-07, 04:15 AM Any folks out there kind enough to answer my questions?
I just brought a 32" slim fit, model WS-32Z30HE. Does anyone know what resolution the screen is? It says it is HDTV ready, does that mean it should have 1080 vertical lines of pixels or is CRT resolution presented differently?
I bought my TV in Bangkok and it lacks SCART or HDMI, it has only the composite connectors. Does this mean my PS3 will look worse on my TV?
Joseph3 08-30-07, 08:13 AM This is the list of HD channels that antenna web listed for me.
DTV Antenna
Type Call Sign Channel Network City State Live
Date Compass
Orientation Miles
From Frequency
Assignment
* yellow - uhf WHIO-DT 7.1 CBS DAYTON OH 315° 7.8 41
* yellow - uhf WDTN-DT 2.1 NBC DAYTON OH 306° 7.5 50
* yellow - uhf WKEF-DT 22.1 ABC DAYTON OH 309° 7.6 51
* yellow - uhf WPTO-DT 14.2 PBS OXFORD OH 254° 28.6 28
* yellow - uhf WRGT-DT 45.1 FOX DAYTON OH 309° 7.6 30
* yellow - uhf WBDT-DT 26.1 CW SPRINGFIELD OH 309° 7.6 18
* yellow - uhf WPTD-DT 16.2 PBS DAYTON OH 309° 7.3 58
* blue - uhf WLWT-DT 5.1 NBC CINCINNATI OH 214° 42.5 35
* blue - uhf WKRC-DT 12.1 CBS CINCINNATI OH 213° 42.5 31
* violet - uhf WCET-DT 48.1 PBS CINCINNATI OH 214° 42.5 34
* violet - vhf WCPO-DT 9.1 ABC CINCINNATI OH 213° 41.9 10
* violet - uhf WXIX-DT 19.1 FOX NEWPORT KY 216° 43.3 29
* violet - uhf WSTR-DT 64.1 MNT CINCINNATI OH 218° 38.0 33
Most antennas I look at just seem to be for outdoor use. Are they also acceptable for attic use? Is there an antenna designed to be in an attic?
I have some questions on settings on the PS3 and the 360.
On the 360 under system/display/reference levels there are three options Standard, intermediate, and Expanded. I tried all three couldnt realy make out a difference in the menu screen. Thought I should ask here before doing more testing. What do these settings change? Which setting should I use?
Under system/audio/digital output there are three settings; digital stereo, Dolby digital 5.1(I know I wont use this setting), and Dolby digital WMA PRO. Currently I have it set to digital stereo. I was wondering If I should have it set to Dolby digital WMA PRO.
On the PS3 under settings, display settings there are some options I dont understand. One is Cross Color Reduction Filter. It is set to ON. What does this do? Should it be set to off? I have the same questions about this setting. Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super-White(HDMI) curently set to OFF.
Under Settings, BD/DVD settings there are a few options here that I dont understand. Cinema Conversion currently set to Automatic. Options are automatic, and Video. DVD upscaler currently set to Normal. Options are Fullscreen, Off, Normal, and Doublescale. BD/DVD Video Output currently set to RGB. Options are RGB, Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr, and Automatic. BD/DVD Audio Output format(HDMI) currently set to LinearPCM. Options are Bitstream, and Linear PCM.
Under Settings, Sound settings you can set it to Automatic or manual. If you set it to Manual, there are a few options of which only two are selected for me by default. The two that are already selected are Linear PCM 2 ch 44.1 khz and Linear PCM 2 ch 48 khz. I was wondering if the 88.2 khz, 176.4 khz, 96 khz, and 192 khz options should be selected also. There are some 5.1 options that I know I dont need, but there is an options called AAC that I dont know about either.
Any information on what these options are, If my tv supports them, and how I should have them set would be greatly appreciated.
WJonathan 08-30-07, 10:33 AM Any folks out there kind enough to answer my questions?
I just brought a 32" slim fit, model WS-32Z30HE. Does anyone know what resolution the screen is? It says it is HDTV ready, does that mean it should have 1080 vertical lines of pixels or is CRT resolution presented differently?
I bought my TV in Bangkok and it lacks SCART or HDMI, it has only the composite connectors. Does this mean my PS3 will look worse on my TV?
http://www.samsung.com/in/products/tv/flattv/slimfittv/ws_32z30he.asp
WJonathan 08-30-07, 10:36 AM This is the list of HD channels that antenna web listed for me.
DTV Antenna
Type Call Sign Channel Network City State Live
Date Compass
Orientation Miles
From Frequency
Assignment
* yellow - uhf WHIO-DT 7.1 CBS DAYTON OH 315° 7.8 41
* yellow - uhf WDTN-DT 2.1 NBC DAYTON OH 306° 7.5 50
* yellow - uhf WKEF-DT 22.1 ABC DAYTON OH 309° 7.6 51
* yellow - uhf WPTO-DT 14.2 PBS OXFORD OH 254° 28.6 28
* yellow - uhf WRGT-DT 45.1 FOX DAYTON OH 309° 7.6 30
* yellow - uhf WBDT-DT 26.1 CW SPRINGFIELD OH 309° 7.6 18
* yellow - uhf WPTD-DT 16.2 PBS DAYTON OH 309° 7.3 58
* blue - uhf WLWT-DT 5.1 NBC CINCINNATI OH 214° 42.5 35
* blue - uhf WKRC-DT 12.1 CBS CINCINNATI OH 213° 42.5 31
* violet - uhf WCET-DT 48.1 PBS CINCINNATI OH 214° 42.5 34
* violet - vhf WCPO-DT 9.1 ABC CINCINNATI OH 213° 41.9 10
* violet - uhf WXIX-DT 19.1 FOX NEWPORT KY 216° 43.3 29
* violet - uhf WSTR-DT 64.1 MNT CINCINNATI OH 218° 38.0 33
Most antennas I look at just seem to be for outdoor use. Are they also acceptable for attic use? Is there an antenna designed to be in an attic?
I have some questions on settings on the PS3 and the 360.
On the 360 under system/display/reference levels there are three options Standard, intermediate, and Expanded. I tried all three couldnt realy make out a difference in the menu screen. Thought I should ask here before doing more testing. What do these settings change? Which setting should I use?
Under system/audio/digital output there are three settings; digital stereo, Dolby digital 5.1(I know I wont use this setting), and Dolby digital WMA PRO. Currently I have it set to digital stereo. I was wondering If I should have it set to Dolby digital WMA PRO.
On the PS3 under settings, display settings there are some options I dont understand. One is Cross Color Reduction Filter. It is set to ON. What does this do? Should it be set to off? I have the same questions about this setting. Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super-White(HDMI) curently set to OFF.
Under Settings, BD/DVD settings there are a few options here that I dont understand. Cinema Conversion currently set to Automatic. Options are automatic, and Video. DVD upscaler currently set to Normal. Options are Fullscreen, Off, Normal, and Doublescale. BD/DVD Video Output currently set to RGB. Options are RGB, Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr, and Automatic. BD/DVD Audio Output format(HDMI) currently set to LinearPCM. Options are Bitstream, and Linear PCM.
Under Settings, Sound settings you can set it to Automatic or manual. If you set it to Manual, there are a few options of which only two are selected for me by default. The two that are already selected are Linear PCM 2 ch 44.1 khz and Linear PCM 2 ch 48 khz. I was wondering if the 88.2 khz, 176.4 khz, 96 khz, and 192 khz options should be selected also. There are some 5.1 options that I know I dont need, but there is an options called AAC that I dont know about either.
Any information on what these options are, If my tv supports them, and how I should have them set would be greatly appreciated.
You'll need a Channel Master style array antenna to receive those stations. They are to far apart directionally to use a directional antenna. For further answers, go to the antenna and game console forums on this site.
T3092WH 08-31-07, 02:28 AM Hey guys, I recently bought this tv and I have begun to notice some slight, but annoying discoloration. For instance, lets say something red appears on the screen, in the corners, a purplish haze will appear, when the color changes to something else, it goes away. I have also seen two vertical blotches on the left and right of the screen, not noticible unless certain colors come on screen, but still... any ehlp would be greatly appreciated. I love the screen, except for these annoying glitches. BTW, I have degaussed my screen three times, along with refresh a monitor right next to it, that doesn't help. Thanks guys :)
Afrikan 08-31-07, 04:14 AM I just got a tx-p2670wh to replace my Panasonic 26" crt......
I did this because this t.v. accepts 720p where as my Panasonic drops my PS3 games to 480p......
so anyway, first thing I notice with the samsung is that it just doesn't look as nice as my Panasonic so far......
the colors don't look as deep or how do I say.....they look kinda faded....
black/whites don't look as nice as the Panasonic.....
now as far as input hook ups......
I use the coaxal for DirectTV for both T.V.s
and for my PS3
the pany was hooked up with a HDMI
the samsung with DVI
can that make a big difference.... I wouldn't think so.... Digital is Digital right?
so I ask, can others with this T.V. recommend their custom picture settings...... or calibration settings (if it is simple to do)
as well as sound settings too...... thankx......
ps. I can't get the Pany back because I gave it to my friends Grandpa and he is attached to it already.......
AntiguaGuy 08-31-07, 11:43 PM Well...the NTSC board considers anything above 480p vertical to be High Definition. So when a TV manufacturer says the set is HD in 1080i they are telling the truth. Even though the set doesn't reproduce the same number of horizontal lines in a 4:3 aspect that we normally associate with 1080i resolution. Usually an HD CRT TV does around 800 h-lines coupled with 1080 vertical at 4:3 ratio. So games will still look great off a 360 or PS3, but you can't do the high resolutions coming off a PC video card.
I've has a Samsung TX-R3079WH for a couple of years, and I've been very satisfied with the display of HD-cable TV and DVDs on it. I built a new HTPC recently, and I had assumed that I would run it through the HDMI cable to this TV. But, as others have noted in this thread, the results aren't very satisfactory. I've tried every available resolution on my video card, but all of them are fuzzy on this TV and the desktop seems to extend beyond the screen.
WJonathan's explanation sorta makes sense to me, but I'm still puzzled because the Samsung looks fine with a cable TV or DVD player input, and the new HTPC looks fine at 1024x768 on an old 19" CRT computer monitor. It just seems like the HTPC and the Samsung oughta work together!
Is there something I'm doing wrong - can I use something like DScaler to improve the display? Or is it simply hopeless?
ThoraX695 09-01-07, 11:32 AM Most antennas I look at just seem to be for outdoor use. Are they also acceptable for attic use? Is there an antenna designed to be in an attic?
It looks like you live in Dayton, Ohio. Many people along the I-75 corridor from Dayton to Cincinnati have had luck pulling DTV stations in from both cities. Several people (including myself) have an attic antenna setup consisting of a tripod (that sits on the attic floor, but not attached), mast, rotator, pre-amp, and UHF antenna. Popular choices include the Channel Master 4221 (4-bay) or 4228 (8-bay). The only drawbacks are the signal loss by not having the antenna outside and you have to be careful to make sure you have enough room for your antenna to rotate. (That's one of the reasons why the UHF bow-tie array antenna is popular for this kind of attic setup.)
Of course, your mileage may vary! :)
For more information, check out HDTV Primer (http://www.hdtvprimer.com/) along with the Cincinnati and Dayton AVS threads.
P.S. I'd also check out TV Fool (http://www.tvfool.com/). It gives more information than antennaweb.
WJonathan 09-01-07, 01:39 PM WJonathan's explanation sorta makes sense to me, but I'm still puzzled because the Samsung looks fine with a cable TV or DVD player input, and the new HTPC looks fine at 1024x768 on an old 19" CRT computer monitor. It just seems like the HTPC and the Samsung oughta work together!
Is there something I'm doing wrong - can I use something like DScaler to improve the display? Or is it simply hopeless?
Basically it's hopeless. CRT televisions simply aren't intended as PC monitors. They are meant to be viewed from a distance (around 8 feet). PC monitor resolution was not a priority. The exception was Sony's Super Fine Pitch tube, but they are long gone. If you want a TV that can double as a PC monitor, the more expensive LCD and Plasma sets are your option.
AntiguaGuy 09-03-07, 10:35 AM I've has a Samsung TX-R3079WH for a couple of years, and I've been very satisfied with the display of HD-cable TV and DVDs on it. I built a new HTPC recently, and I had assumed that I would run it through the HDMI cable to this TV. But, as others have noted in this thread, the results aren't very satisfactory. I've tried every available resolution on my video card, but all of them are fuzzy on this TV and the desktop seems to extend beyond the screen.
WJonathan's explanation sorta makes sense to me, but I'm still puzzled because the Samsung looks fine with a cable TV or DVD player input, and the new HTPC looks fine at 1024x768 on an old 19" CRT computer monitor. It just seems like the HTPC and the Samsung oughta work together!
Is there something I'm doing wrong - can I use something like DScaler to improve the display? Or is it simply hopeless?
Basically it's hopeless. CRT televisions simply aren't intended as PC monitors. They are meant to be viewed from a distance (around 8 feet). PC monitor resolution was not a priority. The exception was Sony's Super Fine Pitch tube, but they are long gone. If you want a TV that can double as a PC monitor, the more expensive LCD and Plasma sets are your option.
I bought the TX-R3079WH at my local Sears store for over $1000 in May of 2005. It weighs about 132 lbs. Since it doesn't meet my needs as an HTPC monitor, I went out to the same Sears store yesterday and bought the Vizio VX32L. I paid about half as much for the Vizio as I did in 2005 for the Samsung. The Vizio weighs about 40 lbs. I am very satisfied with the HTPC display on the Vizio, and, so far, I think I'd say that the HDTV and DVD display on the Vizio is at least as good as the SlimFit. I'll be moving the Samsung to another location in my house, where it will be used for HDTV and DVD viewing.
T3092WH 09-03-07, 06:45 PM Hey guys, I recently bought this tv and I have begun to notice some slight, but annoying discoloration. For instance, lets say something red appears on the screen, in the corners, a purplish haze will appear, when the color changes to something else, it goes away. I have also seen two vertical blotches on the left and right of the screen, not noticible unless certain ccolors come on screen, but still... any ehlp would be greatly appreciated. I love the screen, except for these annoying glitches. BTW, I have degaussed my screen three times, along with refresh a monitor right next to it, that doesn't help. Thanks guys
WJonathan 09-03-07, 11:50 PM Hey guys, I recently bought this tv and I have begun to notice some slight, but annoying discoloration...
Keep an eye on it. If it doesn't improve, exchange the set. Sounds like a problem with the tube, which isn't terribly uncommon on the widescreen Slimfits. It's not worth the time to try and diagnose or repair it if you can return or exchange it.
T3092WH 09-04-07, 01:54 AM Keep an eye on it. If it doesn't improve, exchange the set. Sounds like a problem with the tube, which isn't terribly uncommon on the widescreen Slimfits. It's not worth the time to try and diagnose or repair it if you can return or exchange it.
Well, I can't return it, so i'm gonna have to fix it. How would I go about doing this?
A.Green89 09-04-07, 01:34 PM Well, I can't return it, so i'm gonna have to fix it. How would I go about doing this?
Having the same problem, plus overscanning. I'm sure the latter has been covered in this thread but I'm a bit too lazy to look through the previous pages. Help would be greatly appreciated.
T3092WH 09-04-07, 11:02 PM I'm desperate guys, please?
JayFank 09-05-07, 04:42 PM Hey guys, I recently bought this tv and I have begun to notice some slight, but annoying discoloration. For instance, lets say something red appears on the screen, in the corners, a purplish haze will appear, when the color changes to something else, it goes away. I have also seen two vertical blotches on the left and right of the screen, not noticible unless certain colors come on screen, but still... any ehlp would be greatly appreciated. I love the screen, except for these annoying glitches. BTW, I have degaussed my screen three times, along with refresh a monitor right next to it, that doesn't help. Thanks guys :)
I unfortunately have the same problem, exchanged the set twice, and out of the 30 day window where i can't take it back... and am ****ed now pretty much.. so now i'm screwed
Afrikan 09-06-07, 02:28 AM one more try.....
I just got a tx-p2670wh to replace my Panasonic 26" crt......
so I ask, can others with this T.V. recommend their custom picture settings...... or calibration settings (if it is simple to do)
as well as sound settings too...... thankx......
BLiTzNicK 09-06-07, 08:18 AM Afrikan,
Here's a piece of advice: Take the set back to the store that you bought it from while you still can. If you ever have to deal with Samsung on a warranty issue you will have wished that you took my advice.
15 weeks and counting.....
A.Green89 09-07-07, 06:57 PM Is there anything that those of us stuck with the TV can do? I'd try my hand at fixing the overscanning and whatnot myself at this point. Isn't there a "technician code" or some such that you enter into the remote before you power up the set? I don't really know a whole lot about these televisions but I want to do what I can to fix mine; otherwise I wasted a lot of money.
LookingG 09-07-07, 08:47 PM Ok, my eyes are crossed from reading after page 50.
I have a 3079. I can get to the service menu, what are the final settings for the vertical bowing issue via the SM menu?
Malicae 09-07-07, 11:33 PM Great info all around. I know this thread is for all the SlimFit models, and while I've read about all the bugs and kinks in the previous models, I was wondering if an owner or owners of a SlimFit with an Xbox360 (or even PS3) could give me an honest opinion of the TXT3093WH? Best Buy has (what I perceive to be) a fairly good deal on the set, and I'm thinking about pulling the trigger.
The set will be used primarily with my Xbox360 Elite and watching cable programming (mostly Discover Channel and sports). Anything you wish you'd done or wish you'd known before buying the set would be good. I just would like to know what I'm (most likely) getting into...
Can anyone help me with the following:
I have a TSX-3082
Using GBR cables and RW audio in component 2 slot for HD Cable
Cable box is a Minolta
On any cable channels over 100, closed captions appear on my screen, below 100, no closed captions
Cable company says it is a TV issue, Samsung says it is a cable co. issue
Have looked at all my setups - When I try to get to captions setting on the TV, says this function is not available for the source I am using (Component2).
My cable remote, nor my cable box setup even have a closed captions option.
I am concerned that this might be "closed caption by child" as it has not always been this way.
Tried resetting cable box.
Any way of resetting the TV to factory settings?
Any help would be appreciated, I sure would like to be able to watch college football in HD without the stupid captions running across the screen.
GunEmDown 09-09-07, 03:01 AM I have owned a Sumsung SlimFit TX-R3079WH since July 06, and I have dealt with some problems (bars in 4:3 mode not straight, purple in upper right corner) but my biggest problem is that when going into 1080i mode, everything gets dark to the point that it can't be corrected with the tv's brightness feature. This is when playing the Xbox 360 with component cables. I have calibrated the brightness for 480p fine (59 is the setting) but when going into 1080i mode, it gets darker. My picture settings I use when gaming in 1080i are as follows:
Contrast 68
Brightness 67
Sharpness 30
Color 50
Tint 50
Temperature Normal
Even with brightness set at 67 (the highest it can be without it looking washed out) the brightness is much too dark. In the NBA Live 08 demo, the brightness calibration screen works fine in 480p and I determined my brightness was good at 59. However, in 1080i, even with brightness at 100, with everything looking washed out, I still couldn't see the drop shadow behind the EA logo that determines where you set your brightness at, which was easily seeable in 480p at high brightness settings. And yes, I am positive this is not a contrast issue but completely related to the black levels. This low brightness has been a problem for games I can't control brightness in, since I always game in 1080i when playing the Xbox 360. Has anyone else had this problem, and is it fixable?
Afrikan 09-09-07, 05:30 PM Afrikan,
Here's a piece of advice: Take the set back to the store that you bought it from while you still can. If you ever have to deal with Samsung on a warranty issue you will have wished that you took my advice.
15 weeks and counting.....
I'm stuck with the T.V.....so
I'm sorry for the troubles your going through.... I didn't know Samsung was like this...... I'm more of a Sony person, but I know they have their own troubles as well......
anyway new problem everyone..... every now and then (almost all the time now) when ever I turn on the T.V. the Antenna & Cable inputs are having problems....... it keeps saying "searching for signal" for both.....but video1 works fine with the DirectTV
I have OTA antenna hooked up and Direct TV hooked up for the cable..... I'm guessing it has to do with the processor(or whatever) in the T.V. can not process the coaxial inputs for some reason.........
does anyone know if the firmware update fixes this? or am I just f'ked
I think that you're f****d, sorry.
LookingG 09-10-07, 07:13 AM I have geometry problems. The vertical lines are bowed. It looks bow IN at the top and bottom. What in the service menu corrects that? The middle needs to come in and the bottom needs to come out.
Baksartha 09-12-07, 10:10 PM Hey Guys,
I have a txs2782h that I bought a few months ago for my x360. Up until now I haven't had any real problems. However, I recently started to play Gears of War and noticed some V-sync when I rotated the camera past some sunlight streaming in from some nearby windows (right at the beginning of the game when Fenix is freed from his cell). I had played this game before on another TV and didn't recall any V-sync. I switched the 360's resolution from 720p to 480p and 1080i, but the V-sync persisted regardless of what I tried. So I hooked up my 360 to my old TV, like magic, the V-sync was gone. I've also noticed the V-sync on the Flatout Ultimate Carnage demo, but that too disappeared on my old TV.
Is there anything in the service menu I can play with to eliminate the V-sync? Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
megulito 09-13-07, 07:34 PM hi ive been reding u guys posts but and found useful info but i messd up my tv using the service menu that i saw u guys tlkin about and now i kinda messd up my setting i have a txr3080w and i just wanted ot kno if anyone out there has one and if they can share all their menu option with me deflation video 1 2 3 4 options the whole lot i took xperimenting too far
Question for your Sammy slimfit owners. Can you please be so kind to tell me the factory levels in Standard and Movie modes for the Contrast and Brightness?
Each tv has unique settings from the factory. Nobody has the same settings. Basically your sol. Never venture into the sm without knowing what your doing. And its especially important before changing anything in there. Take pics of the settings or right them down.
hi ive been reding u guys posts but and found useful info but i messd up my tv using the service menu that i saw u guys tlkin about and now i kinda messd up my setting i have a txr3080w and i just wanted ot kno if anyone out there has one and if they can share all their menu option with me deflation video 1 2 3 4 options the whole lot i took xperimenting too far
Baksartha 09-15-07, 12:32 AM Can anyone help me with my V-sync problem?
Thanks!
megulito 09-15-07, 09:17 AM Each tv has unique settings from the factory. Nobody has the same settings. Basically your sol. Never venture into the sm without knowing what your doing. And its especially important before changing anything in there. Take pics of the settings or right them down.
yes i know each tv has its own settings but i was hoping some one with the same model could give me their settings as reference at least a base to start from something is better than nothing or at least if anyone know the definitions of each category
Hi Guys:
Noob here - I cruised through most of the posting on this regarding my 30" slimfit and it seems this problem I'm having is unique, at least in it's severity.
I have a horrible hourglass - funhouse mirror type - going on; just happened this a.m. - t.v. was fine and then "poof" hourglass - owned the t.v. since late October of last year with zero problems, actually have loved the t.v.
See flickr image posting to see severtiy - any suggestions:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7355065@N04/1391436293/
WJonathan 09-16-07, 11:37 AM Hi Guys:
Noob here - I cruised through most of the posting on this regarding my 30" slimfit and it seems this problem I'm having is unique, at least in it's severity.
I have a horrible hourglass - funhouse mirror type - going on; just happened this a.m. - t.v. was fine and then "poof" hourglass - owned the t.v. since late October of last year with zero problems, actually have loved the t.v.
See flickr image posting to see severtiy - any suggestions:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7355065@N04/1391436293/
Looks to me like a vertical control circuit blew out. That's much worse than a simple misadjustment.
Ouch...oh well, I bought the ESP from circuit city - I'll give them a call and update you guys on the results...
Yamazaki 09-16-07, 06:43 PM Posted a few pages back about issues with the 9093 but I could'nt take it back to Sears due to a ridiculous restocking policy charge that I refused to pay so I'm stuck somewhat. Tried dealing with Samsung that made my issue seem like a quick fix and someone locally within Houston would come out to fix but of course that did'nt happen.
Anyway please instruct me on how to properly calibrate this set. What software, hardware would be needed to try to best solve the geometry issues with parts of the screen along with degaussing the set. Much thanks in advance.
Please anyone?!? Also if you could tell me what sharpness is set to in standard and movie mode.
Question for your Sammy slimfit owners. Can you please be so kind to tell me the factory levels in Standard and Movie modes for the Contrast and Brightness?
Yamazaki 09-17-07, 08:22 PM Standard Mode:
Sharpness > 50
Contrast > 80
Brightness > 50
Color Tone > Cool 1
Movie:
Sharpness > 50
Contrast > 80
Brightness > 50
Color Tone > Warm 2
Great. Tyvm!
Standard Mode:
Sharpness > 50
Contrast > 80
Brightness > 50
Color Tone > Cool 1
Movie:
Sharpness > 50
Contrast > 80
Brightness > 50
Color Tone > Warm 2
BLiTzNicK 09-18-07, 03:12 PM Finally got my replacement CRT. It's definately a refurb. Here's a shot of the geometry. I know of no setting that can fix the slopping off to the right. Any suggestions?
BLiTzNicK 09-18-07, 08:44 PM After about 2 hours of use, the tv has started omitting a low volume, high pitched hum. I guess I'm going to have to call Samsung tomorrow. This is getting ridiculous.
turbospeed 09-19-07, 12:44 AM i made a post about getting samsung to recall this tv's , but i got shot down by some guy that says that its my fault i bougth a defective 800dlls tv.
i dont think 800 is a elcheapo tv.
and i really think is ridiculous that we have to endure such things.
it really pissed me off both the repair shop and samsung representant telling me that thos egeometry problems are nornal and i should wait until the tv blows up and get a new one.
bid01005 09-19-07, 12:44 AM So I just joined, just to tell my story, hopefully someone can relate. I own the TX-T3093WH, and I too have experienced the purple discoloration in the right corner, and I too have the crazy amount of static.
I recently called samsung to get them to fix my QAM tuner. They checked the specs in there database and confirmed that there is a QAM tuner. Unfortunatly no one here has been able to confirm this. I had my TV hauled away by a "SAMSUNG" technician on monday to get it "FIXED."
My question is, what do they offer you once they realize they cant fix your TV. And if they do offer you something, do you get your tv back?
turbospeed 09-19-07, 12:50 AM well they told me there's no fix , they could replace the board and all and hope its better , but it could end up worse beauce thats just the way this tv's are.
the tech told me most tv's end up worse so i decided to keep mine as is.
BLiTzNicK 09-19-07, 12:31 PM Here's the deal:
I talked to "executive customer support" today. They said that since I accepted the TV from the delivery people that they will just have to send the repairman, again. I explained to them that it was ludicrous for Samsung to think that it was acceptable to continue down this path. They basically said, "tough".
I explained to them that I was going to file a complaint with the Attorney General of my state and the BBB. They didn't care.
I will start working on the complaints tonight, and hopefully get them submitted by tomorrow. Then we'll see what happens. I'm also going to speak with a consumer lawyer when I get the chance, to see about resolving this thing in the courts. I've had enough.
bid01005, they won't offer you anything. They'll tell you what they will replace the set with. I offered to pay extra to upgrade to an LCD just to avoid the frustration of service calls and months without TV. They wouldn't budge on sending me a refurb CRT. The refurb would satisfy me, if only it worked.
turbospeed 09-19-07, 12:58 PM KEEP ME UPDATED!!! i live in mexico altough i bougth my tv @ a CC in california , but im willing to make a few trips even if it ends up being more expensive.
RedNeonSport 09-19-07, 03:43 PM I found this thread on a google search while searching for ways to fix my Samsung TXS3082WHX/XAA.
I haven't yet read through all of the pages of this thread, but it appears the problems I am having are quite common with this model, and also my experience with "Samsung Customer Care" and "Samsung Executive Customer Relations" are also common.
So, here's my story...
Since I received the TV for Christmas last year, my TV has had a problem with intermittent loud squealing/high pitch ringing sound.
By the time I called where it was purchased to get it fixed (Circuit City), it was beyond their return policy (I believe 15 days or so).
I called Samsung support and they had a local Samsung repair guy come out to my house to fix the TV. I had to take time off work for this because the repair guy only worked 8-5 m-f; the same hours as I work.
The first time out, he tried to hot glue some heat sinks, as he thought that was the cause of the sound. The sound returned soon after he left. I had to take more time off work three more times and the repair guy did replace all the circuit boards in the TV. This is over a time period of a few months, and each time the problem persisted, and each time I had to take time off work for the repair work to be done. The last time the TV had a board replaced, the technician explained this was the last part he could swap out, it had all new circuit boards and he couldn't do any more. Since the last time the TV was "repaired", I have moved and the TV also seems to have grown purple and sometimes green splotches in the upper left and right corners of the picture.
About a month ago I called Samsung support again, explaining to them what had gone on, and that I would like to see how my TV can be either replaced or repaired without me taking any more time off work. Samsung customer support opened a ticket. They then proceeded to transfer me to "Samsung Executive Customer Relations". I spent a good thirty to forty minutes on hold before it rang, then proceeded to hang up on me.
A couple days ago ago, I found time during my lunch break to try and call Samsung support again to see if I could get any farther than I did last time. I called the elusive "Samsung Executive Customer Relations" yet again. Forty minutes into the call, the phone cut off the hold music, started to ring, then hung up on me again.
After that last time of being hung up on, I thought I would try another method of reaching Samsung, I went to their website and filled out a service request. I got an email back saying my request could not be processed via email and I had to call their 800 number.
Today I received a voice mail from Samsung asking about the status of my repair. I called back, gave them the transaction number that was left on my voicemail. Samsung then checked to see how busy the "Samsung Executive Customer Relations" people were. There was nobody in line, so he transferred me saying it should only be a few minutes wait. Ten minutes later I did finally get to talk to somebody. I told them the situation with the TV, and they had to "check to see what they could do". They came back and told me my TV was out of warranty. Keep in mind the TV was purchased just ten months ago, and the TV should have a one year warranty. She said she could "extend the warranty until the end of the month" and send a different repair guy out to fix my TV.
So here I am waiting as fast as I can for this second TV repair shop to call me and schedule a time where hopefully more of my time wont be wasted.... we'll see.
Until then I will read more of this thread to get a better understanding of what my options are.
bid01005 09-19-07, 04:00 PM as long as they give me a QAM 16:9 tv that works with 2HDMI and is 30in ill be happy.
Nabashim 09-19-07, 04:43 PM Well, some may remember my post about a month ago, relating the geometry problems and the color problems with my Slimfit. I talked to 2 different Television repair specialists, one of which I know now know on a first name basis. here are the results
1.) massive geometry problems and/or fluctuation of the picture: broken, get a new one
2.) purple spots/red spots: Demagnetize and yer good to go
3.) Spots elsewhere on the screen: An odd problem, one repairman suggested the demagnetization should work, but it didn't for me. The other, first-name guy blamed it on the unit itself.
4.) the infamous Hum: a speaker issue 90% of the time, sometimes has to do with the electronic circuitry. first-name guy gave it more of a 75% ratio.
In the end, I had a few things done to it, but I ended up purchasing a 32" LCD, LG and not Samsung unfortunately, and the difference is night and day when it comes to ANYTHING I hooked up to it. I obtained it for about 700$ through a great sale, and that's about the price I paid for the Slimfit. even though I got a great deal on the LG, and the slimfits are around 500$ now, I do believe I got basically my money's worth for the 2 years I had it, maybe overpaid a little bit. Those of you with problems 1 and 3, you should also look at replacement model TV's or LCD's. I will say this though, the samsung support I had was pretty good on my TV, so I will recommend them in the future.
BLiTzNicK 09-19-07, 08:45 PM The repairman came and took my TV away today. He says he not sure that it can be fixed, but was going to take it to his shop and call Samsung.
I can get an LG LCD for about $700 at Best Buy, and I just might do it.
JayFank 09-19-07, 11:52 PM so is there a solution for the purplish glow in the corners of the slimfit? PLEASE, would like help!
I've tried degaussing the set by leaving it unplugged for long periods of time, and that doesn't seem to help... any other suggestions?
Does my set need demagnetized? and if so how could that be done?
megulito 09-20-07, 04:40 PM so does this mean no one can help me ??
I'm interested in upgrading my disk player from my Panasonic VCR/DVD combo (upconverting, HDMI) to Blu-ray, or maybe a Blu-ray/HD-DVD combo player.
Ironically, if I do the latter, I may pay more for the player than for the TV.
Anyway, does anyone else play HD disks on his SlimFit HDTV, especially a widescreen SlimFit, and especially if he previously used an upconverting (preferably HDMI) DVD player?
With only a 30" screen, I'm wondering if there is a visible difference when using this TV. I know that with a big TV (50" or more) the difference is immedate and obvious.
Does the SlimFit's HDMI input let it be controlled by another device? I'm considering getting a Samsung Blu-ray/HD-DVD combo player that has the following feature:
Anynet+ Ready TV (HDMI-CEC)
You're in full command with the BD-UP5000. Anynet+ delivers streamlined, one touch control over all your connected devices such as the TV, AV Receiver, and Home Theater. You can operate all of them with a single remote control that enables commands to be passed among devices within the system. A true “plug and play” product, it comes with a Consumer Electronics Control (CEC) feature that lets you operate Samsung HDMI products with a single remote control.
Would that work with my SlimFit I wonder...
Does anyone have a pdf of the full TX-T3093WH service manual?
Or, does someone have the longhand of the shorthand (V-AMP turns into Vertical AMP Gain) of the service menu items with a description of what each item does?
Excuse me if my requests exist somewhere in the thread, but I haven't been able to find everything in one place. It seems only 4 or so items will be discussed in a post.
Even if no one can satisfy the above requests, maybe we could gather what bits and pieces are already posted and put them together in one post (or something).
Thank you in advance.
errol411 09-23-07, 04:26 AM Hi, I've had my TX-T3093WH for about three weeks now and it's been great until recently. This has been happening for over the last few days: after watching for around three hours it automatically ALMOST shuts off real quick then back to normal, like there's some power surge of something. It clicks and the screen doesn't go totally black, it just fades for a split second. Every time this occurs am watching a DVD but I haven't noticed it while watching regular tv/cable. Anyone know what might be causing this?
thanks
BLiTzNicK 09-23-07, 07:50 AM NO, but if you have a 30 day return policy, return it now!
agrendar 09-24-07, 08:47 PM OKay so i just bought the 3093 tonight, i read a bunch of reviews and it seemed to be the best fit for me for the money. BUT i am having an issue with it i think.
I have a XBOX 360 and a PS3, both hooked into the TV using component cables. When I have the systems outputting 1080i i seem to get some kind of refresh line going from left to right sometime right to left. Its very very distracting when i am trying to game.
When i set the TB to 720p however i get no lines. Is this becuase I should only be using 1080i with hdmi cables not component?
Other then this the TV is great, looks good on regular cable when i set it to 4:3 and i have a feeling that if i mess with the settings i can make it look good while stretched as well.
If anyone can help me with the other problem, or school me if i am dumb, let me know!! thanks!
BLiTzNicK 09-25-07, 09:19 AM Perhaps your brightness or contrast are set too high?
aeternus_a 09-25-07, 11:52 AM I've searched this site exhaustively, but I'm unable to find a definitive answer to my question. I've owned a 3093WH for close to a month now and made the possibly foolish assumption that I'd be able to correct the 'tilt' issue it suffers from in the service menu. I thought that since basic tilt correction was available in the display menu that there would be a service menu equivalent with greater flexibility. I have yet to find an option in the service menu and I'm wondering if the option exists or if there is a physical adjustment I can make that is similar to the process used for the Sony 60A2000, which involves removing the front panel and adjusting a couple of screws.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8290925&&#post8290925
I can't seem to locate the service manual for the TX-T3093WH anywhere for immediate download and I don't have the time to wait for it if I purchase one from Samsungparts.com... I'm a couple of days short of the 30 day return window and can still bring the unit back if the tilt can't be corrected.
First post ever, anywhere... Thank you to anyone who takes the time to help me out.
agrendar 09-25-07, 01:13 PM my advice to you would be bring it back and exchange it if you have a few days left. I am searched extensivly online and the service manual isnt available for download or immediate viewing. It seems to me that you would be taking a big risk by not going to getting it replaced.
Just my oppinion.
Flyboye2002 09-25-07, 04:16 PM Being a long time Sony owner with the exception of 2 Mitsubishi RPTV's....I've got to say my experience with this Samsung has been horrible. I bought the set over a year ago, but didn't really watch it last year due to travel outside the USA. By the time I returned, the TV was out of warranty. I love the cabinet design, but I can't stand the geometry problems. It's a bedroom TV, so I don't usually watch CNN etc., but the bowing at the bottom is so bad I'm probably going to end up putting this horrible TV in the guest bedroom and putting my old 10y/o Sony back in the bedroom. It's a CHEAP TV in every respect. Other than being widescreen...my old Sony has a much better picture. I'd return this TV in a heartbeat if I could....BUYER BEWARE!!!!!
Anyone have one of those "One for All" universal remotes. I bought a R3079WH used and I don't have the remote. I got most of the functions on the remote to work but I can't figure out how to use the menu. I can get the menu to come up(with the menu button) but can't figure out how to navigate through it. Mainly all I want to be able to do is quickly change between 4x3 and 16x9. Any thoughts?
TzuDohNihm 09-26-07, 09:39 PM I've searched this site exhaustively, but I'm unable to find a definitive answer to my question. I've owned a 3093WH for close to a month now and made the possibly foolish assumption that I'd be able to correct the 'tilt' issue it suffers from in the service menu. I thought that since basic tilt correction was available in the display menu that there would be a service menu equivalent with greater flexibility. I have yet to find an option in the service menu and I'm wondering if the option exists or if there is a physical adjustment I can make that is similar to the process used for the Sony 60A2000, which involves removing the front panel and adjusting a couple of screws.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8290925&&#post8290925
I can't seem to locate the service manual for the TX-T3093WH anywhere for immediate download and I don't have the time to wait for it if I purchase one from Samsungparts.com... I'm a couple of days short of the 30 day return window and can still bring the unit back if the tilt can't be corrected.
First post ever, anywhere... Thank you to anyone who takes the time to help me out.
I have the same set and I noticed the other night while watching a football game that my screen was tilted. I think I moved it 4 or 7 clicks and it righted itself just fine. Is it that bad?
TzuDohNihm 09-26-07, 09:39 PM This 3092 has an ATSC tuner correct? Shouldn't my OTA scanning for channels pull up the HD channels in my area and negate my need for an antenna?
aeternus_a 09-27-07, 03:28 PM This 3092 has an ATSC tuner correct? Shouldn't my OTA scanning for channels pull up the HD channels in my area and negate my need for an antenna?
No... It having an ATSC tuner just means that you can just hook up an antenna and be on your way. Otherwise, you'd need an external ATSC tuner and an antenna. If you have basic cable, you might want to connect it to the TV and scan for HD channels... My cable company by default broadcasts local HD even though they don't advertise that fact and claim you need to upgrade your package if you call in to inquire about local HD (that is currently the only reason I still have basic cable... One of my satellite receivers won't display local HD). I use Cablevision, by the way.
BLiTzNicK 09-28-07, 12:18 PM Just an update.
I've been "approved" for a "new" replacement TV. They said that this time it would be a non-refurbished unit. They are sending a 3092 this time.
14-21 business days :rolleyes:
c-breeze 09-28-07, 08:57 PM Long time reader, first time poster.
I recently purchased a samsung slimfit TXT3093 from Sears. I know I wanted crt over lcd due to the fact that there is no motion blur while gaming, and blacks are much richer.
Anyways, I've had it for about 1 week now, and I just noticed on the left side of the screen, about 1 inch from the side, there is a vertical line that is a shade or two darker from the rest (2-4 pixels wide about). I know the tv is made of these lines, but this one is highly noticeable no matter what setting it is on and on every color, but mostly lighter colors, especially blues and white. I've tried all the settings, dynamic-standard-and movie, with variations of color, brightness, and contrast on all, but it is always noticable. Is there anyway to fix this?
On a side note, it also gives off a large amount of static discharge when turned on like I read about in this forum. But that seems pretty common...I have noticed too, when I turn the tv on, only on that left side where the problem is I see a flash of light come from that area, but no where else...
And now most recently I've started to hear that high pitched hum, but it usually goes away after a few seconds, or after I turn it off and back on. Other then that, the geometry is pretty spot-on and overall picture is great.
I'de hate to have to exchange it since it is very heavy and it's been a nightmare trying to find a good tv, and I'm afraid i could be stuck with a worse problem. But that vertical line discoloration is driving me nuts...
Has anyone else had a similar problem like this? I know how to access the service menu, could it be fixed through that, or even a calibration dvd? I just bought avia and it should be here soon.
I'd greatly apprectiate any input on this.
Thank you in advance!
errol411 09-29-07, 03:33 AM Hi, I've had my TX-T3093WH for about three weeks now and it's been great until recently. This has been happening for over the last few days: after watching for around three hours it automatically ALMOST shuts off real quick then back to normal, like there's some power surge of something. It clicks and the screen doesn't go totally black, it just fades for a split second. Every time this occurs am watching a DVD but I haven't noticed it while watching regular tv/cable. Anyone know what might be causing this?
Ok, this is not just an occurrence while watching dvds. It happens after watching the tv for around three hours. It just shuts off and on real quick. I felt it and it was kind of hot, maybe it's overheating or something? I also realized that my 30 days are way past so I can't return it. Luckily I have the service plan, hopefully it's a simple fix....
Blackbelt Jones 10-09-07, 12:15 AM Got Samsung to swap out my defective 3092 for a 3093. I go in to set it up and it will NOT save my calibration / picture settings... it only gives me 3 default factory settings. I can change the settings, but everytime I turn off the TV and turn it back on, it defaults back to "Dynamic" and earases my calibrated settings.
I am stunned.
Tell me please I am doing something wrong! The 3092 had a "custom" setting, but the 3092 does not???? This is terrible if true.
I would appreciate ANY help!
Thank you!!!
Blackbelt Jones 10-09-07, 10:23 AM OK... thanks to old posts thread, I learned it was in "Store Mode." I love this forum! :)
I had to go in to the service menu (Mute, 1, 8, 2, Power) to turn it off.
Amazing that they send sets out like this.
On the plus side, the set, so far, looks amazing. A huge improvement over the 3082 (I had tube problems); the geometry is almost perfect (!), and the deflection settings were spot on out of the factory. I can't belive it after my last set... really a HUGE improvement.
When these sets work, they look amazing (I'll give them that). I wouldn't buy one again with all problems I had dealing with Samsung, but now that I am through it, I am simply amazed how good the picture can be... the blacks and colors beat my LCD to hell. I just wish they wern't so prone to problems.
I was happy with my TX-R3079WH TV until it died. As others have said, it worked one night, and the next morning it would not turn on. Still won't turn on. I was just wondering if anyone with this problem has gotten it fixed and costs associated with the repair. As HDTV prices have fallen, I am pretty sure that costs to repair my TV would be equivalent to or just under the cost of purchasing a new flat panel television (obviously I am not buying another samsung). Thanks in advance for any help.
BLiTzNicK 10-09-07, 12:39 PM My newest replacement, a 3092 is on it's way, and looks to be about 2-3 business days away from me. I hope they get it right this time. They should, since this one is a new one, not a refurb.
WJonathan 10-09-07, 04:10 PM I was happy with my TX-R3079WH TV until it died. As others have said, it worked one night, and the next morning it would not turn on. Still won't turn on. I was just wondering if anyone with this problem has gotten it fixed and costs associated with the repair. As HDTV prices have fallen, I am pretty sure that costs to repair my TV would be equivalent to or just under the cost of purchasing a new flat panel television (obviously I am not buying another samsung). Thanks in advance for any help.
I wouldn't rule out other Samsung products. The Slimfit isn't indicative of their overall product quality. Most Samsung flat panel and older CRT owners are pretty satisfied.
paulsiu 10-09-07, 09:13 PM I am looking into a Slimfit 3092 or 3093, but I was wondering if the owners can answer some questions:
1. I have been told that the TV only display in 1080i mode. How does SD TV look on the TV, does it look better than a LCD television?
2. How reliable is the 3092 and 3093?
My newest replacement, a 3092 is on it's way, and looks to be about 2-3 business days away from me. I hope they get it right this time. They should, since this one is a new one, not a refurb.
I thought the same thing. I had a 3082 and just got a 3093 and Its really bad out of focus on the left and right and also right in the middle is starts sloping to the left and the picture prob drops about an inch from the edge and the middle of the set. Plus I have really bad overscan on left right and bottom. top seems to be fine though
aeternus_a 10-11-07, 11:52 AM For any of the 'Should I buy this TV?' people out there, my answer would be a resounding 'no'! I considered myself a diehard CRT proponent, but the SlimFits - the 3093 in particular - drove me to my first LCD purchase. I'm not going to get into specifics in terms of the issues I had with the two 3093's I went through, they are well documented throughout this thread and I experienced all of them between the two sets. I went with the Sony Bravia KDL-40XBR4, which blows away any TV I've used or seen in the past (including the Sony KD-34XBR970, which I also own... Never bothered to check out the Pioneer PRO-110FD - sounds amazing, but $6,000.00... Good lord!) I had no intention of spending the kind of money I spent on the Sony, but the 3093 was extremely disappointing (not to mention still far too heavy to be lugging back and forth from the store to the third floor of my house - I think I strained my entire left side dragging televisions around the last two weeks... Heh). I thought that my experience might be helpful to anyone reluctant to make the flat panel plunge - I felt like I was at least two years away, initially.
paulsiu 10-11-07, 06:55 PM Aeternus, could you be a bit more specific on why? Your post mentioned being unable to fix a "Tilt".
aeternus_a 10-12-07, 03:02 PM Aeternus, could you be a bit more specific on why? Your post mentioned being unable to fix a "Tilt".
I guess I was hoping to avoid it, but that wouldn't be very helpful... The most irritating issue with the first TV was the tilt. After making whatever adjustments I could there was still noticeable tilt that I simply couldn't do anything about on my own - that's extremely frustrating when you're dealing with a new TV. Correctable issues, however painstaking the process to correct them is, are fine by me - I'm willing to spend the time. But having scrolling tickers on the bottom of the screen dive down to the left will drive you mad after a while. And, of course, once you're aware you tend to notice it with every image displayed. Overscan was horrible. Bowing on all four sides. Geometry was so poor that part of the overlay grid in the service menu was missing and irrecoverable - shrinking the image did not show the missing part, which I'd never experienced before. There was essentially a hole in the right-middle of the screen. The corners all tapered off and no amount of tweaking seemed to fix them. The image had to be overscanned quite a bit just to make it watchable. Then, or course, the tilt was made that much worse and more noticeable.
The second TV actually had flawless geometry - shocking, I know. But all four corners of the image were overly bright and too distracting to ignore. Also, and I believe I read about this in this thread, the screen flashed brightly at the sides and had some static/exaggerated fuzz thing going on each time you turned the TV on and off, which was not at all an issue with the first set. Basically, it seemed to struggle badly when it was turned on and off. If I had been willing to live with those issues (I did get the four year warranty), they were made moot by the fact that the TV was used and the imbecile who had it before me used some kind of industrial cleaner on the screen, which left a residue that wouldn't quit and noticeable scratches. That brings me to the main issue with large CRT's in general - just how many times are you willing to lug a massive TV back and forth from the store? Not being able to live with certain flaws is one thing (you can chalk that up to your being so demanding) but when Worst Buy - or is it Best Lie? - sells you a used TV you still have to return it just the same. On a side note, how depressing are large retail chains these days? I asked to see a manager about the fact that I was sold a used TV and I'm completely convinced that he could not have cared any less than he did. I wasn't angry or looking for him to do anything for me (I wasn't getting another TV); I just thought he might want to know and that he might be surprised by what happened - I was wrong on both counts.
I hope that helps. I figured no one wanted to read a post this long and left out the details in the first one.
eagle101st 10-16-07, 06:50 PM I recorded the flicker on video lol. He came out and it did not happen but he opened it up, banged around in there, and left. It happened again later that night so I recorded it. The repair guy said if it happens again he will replace the circuit board but it sounds like that does not do any good. I will call them back and say it is happening again but I am going to wait to replace anything in case other issues surface...I have only had it for 2 weeks.
Wow...it has been a long time. Well, where do I begin! They came and replaced the circuit board but that did not solve the problem so they replaced the ENTIRE CRT! I was in heaven for about 3 weeks when the set began to emit and high pitched noise and began crackeling when I first turn on and off the tv. I was ok with the new set of problems but this was the straw that broke the camels back: the WHOLE picture became fuzzy after hearing a loud POP/SNAP. So I called Samsung and they were going to send out a tech again to look at it but out of the blue today I get a call from Samsung and they said that I had WAY too many problems with this TV and they are exchanging it so I need to wait 3 to 5 day for someone to call me to set up the exchange.
My question is, what model do they exchange it with? Is there a newer one with less issues?
New guy here looking for a little help. I have browsed through this thread, but hoped someone can give me a concise answer to my problems. I have had my Slimfit for almost 2 years (R3079WH) and have been really unhappy with it for a long time. It now has gotten so bad that the entire right half of the screen is a rainbow when there is a black background. It it also distorted on both sides and I also experience the purple spot in the corners from time to time. Short of calling a repair service, any suggestions on how to fix these issues (besides taking a sledge hammer to it)? Thanks!
Wow...it has been a long time. Well, where do I begin! They came and replaced the circuit board but that did not solve the problem so they replaced the ENTIRE CRT! I was in heaven for about 3 weeks when the set began to emit and high pitched noise and began crackeling when I first turn on and off the tv. I was ok with the new set of problems but this was the straw that broke the camels back: the WHOLE picture became fuzzy after hearing a loud POP/SNAP. So I called Samsung and they were going to send out a tech again to look at it but out of the blue today I get a call from Samsung and they said that I had WAY too many problems with this TV and they are exchanging it so I need to wait 3 to 5 day for someone to call me to set up the exchange.
My question is, what model do they exchange it with? Is there a newer one with less issues?
Well I had a 3082(tube was replaced and did fix problem) and got a 3093 on the exchange. But after having the 3093 a week I am taking it back to best buy today because I too had the cracking noise when turning it on and really bad overscan along with tilt and bowed horizontal lines. I talking to samsung about the issue and all they told me was they could set it up for service or I could just take it back and get another new unit. So I'm keeping my service call open because I have a gut feeling that the new unit will need it also
Ha well I just got back from best buy and I got out of owning a the 3093. I ended up getting a hp 32 lcd for $50 more. And its is a way better quality set
Even after reading some sad stories about this model, I decided to buy a 3092. $565.60 including tax & delivery (latter free).
Wish me luck!
Best Buy promised to deliver it yesterday between 3&5. Didn't happen. They never showed. Didn't even call me. So I guess I got what I paid for there, huh?
They promise it'll be at my house next week instead. If they blow it again I'll just cancel the order.
If they bring it and the box is all beaten up or whatever, I will note that on the form before I sign for it. If the unit performs poorly, I will return it and get my money back.
The in-store units I have seen (even "open box specials") look much sharper than any LCD or plasma jobs. CRT is a mature technology; with LCDs & plasma, they may be many years working out bugs. So I hope I get a good one; if I have to monkey around with settings, I'll be back here to try that--and I will do my best to avoid any traps such as losing the factory tweaks.
As I said, wish me luck.
This started because I have a Panasonic 27" that I can't turn off without the picture collapsing into a thin bright horizontal line. (I think it's the vertical dispersion amplifier. Just banging on the cabinet will bring it back. . .but for how long? Maybe I should pull the cover off it & see if there is a loose connection in there or whatever?) Disappointing, because I have had great luck with Panasonic in the past, and when the picture is okay it looks really nice unless you examine it very closely (many people say "Wow! Great picture!"). I have a giant Channelmaster VHF/UHF antenna and a rotor, but I'm down in a shallow valley, so I cannot cancel 100% of the ghost images on the left side of the screen.
If the Samsung doesn't work out, I'll get my money back, try to fix the Panasonic & get a separate digital tuner.
BLiTzNicK 10-19-07, 12:39 AM For not much more money, you could have bought a 32" LCD, and had a much better set. The SlimFits are garbage.
FYI for anyone who cares, my replacement set is "better", but still has horizontal line issues. I've decided to deal with it, as I'm fed up with dealing with Samsung over this. I'm just wasting my time thinking that they actually will fix the problem.
They don't care, and lately, neither do I. They won't get anymore of my business, but they've made it clear to me that they don't care about that.
WJonathan 10-19-07, 12:56 AM I mostly agree. It seems that slim CRTs were just a bad idea they should have given up on. Kind of like the Chevy Vega, or New Coke.
But...most of Samsung's products are of decent quality. I happily owned a few of their CRT PC monitors, and I know a few folks with Samsung LCD TVs who are satisfied.
Defenestrate211 10-24-07, 01:57 AM Ahoy hoy all
I picked up the t3093 about a month ago. I'm pretty satisfied so far, the picture looks amazing, and I really dig the design, but aside from that I've noticed two things
1. Discoloration in the top right and lower left of the screen. Very minor, almost more of a shadow than a discoloration. Can only see when a light colored solid screen comes up. I think it can be handled with a degaussing. Any thoughts on that?
Number 2 is more of a challenge.
A strange flickering that happens on the sides of the screen, at first I thought it was only on the right, but then recently noticed on the left. Again this one is tricky. Can only be seen clearly if a solid light color is displayed. The intensity of the flicker varies, and it doesn't happen all the time. I've noticed it becomes a bit more prevelent if theres is fast moving action on the screen, but even that I'm not sure about. But most of the time if I see it, it's if I'm LOOKING for it. And if I do see it, it is gone within 3 seconds or less.
Part of me wondering if it is a power issue? The only other time I've seen anything like it is on my computer CRT monitor, when I would plug a small fan into the same power strip and turn it on. It's a flicker/refresh kind of thing. It's not HORRIBLE, but I have noticed it, and we all know how that is. Only resolution I have thus far is to buy one of those fancy power strips that "Clean" the power to the television. Let it also be noted that my house is old and so is the wiring, and TV is on a circuit that comprises two rooms and only handles 15 amps total.
But then again, my electricity theory could be all wrong. Any thoughts on this issue, and the degauss solution proposed for the discolorotion?
Hope to hear from you guys.
SD
My thanks to all for their honest impressions.
My 3092 arrived yesterday, meaning I have only a single afternoon & evening's mileage on it, but at this point I have no complaints. I posted a full review on epinions, I will keep everybody's feedback and experiences in mind, and if I have any trouble I will let everyone know.
Overall, I'd comment that I'm sure you can find a better HD CRT--but not at this price.
I watch off-the-air tv broadcasts with this set: no cable feed, no satellite, no game systems. I don't plan to hook the set up to any of that stuff.
I will plug in my DVD player before long (and maybe even my VHS VCR, if mainly for old time's sake), but aside from that, the programs my antenna hauls in will be enough.
plughplover 10-24-07, 02:13 PM Quick question for 3092/3093/2793 owners:
Does HDMI audio get passed out through the optical port?
Thanks!
plughplover 10-25-07, 09:28 AM Found the answer to my question:
No, the HDMI audio is not passed through the Optical output.
In the process, I noticed something in the 3092/3093/2793 manual that isn't in any of the other Slimfit manuals I've looked at in the past.
It includes GPL/LGPL licenses. The text indicates that it uses the Linux kernel, Busybox, Binutils, and Glibc, and that sources are available by emailing someone at Samsung.
Fascinating...
Still marveling at the break-in honeymoon with my 3092.
Maybe in time the folks who have had problems with Slimfits can rectify those glitches with software upgrades. (Wishful thinking?)
I'm not enough of a code geek to know the intricacies of that stuff. I'm paranoid of the danger of doing something to ruin functionality, as opposed to tweaking it. I'd be very wary of plugging any "upgrade" into my USB slot unless I felt sure of the source. Unfortunately there *are* malicious hackers out there (although their targets are usually government servers & so forth, as opposed to intentionally wrecking some individual's tv set), and even intelligent people can make mistakes.
But I'm somewhat reassured to see that Linux (NOT Microsoft!) is the basis for the code.
In the meanwhile: I did have to adjust the image tilt (six clicks clockwise), and things look more on kilter.
My friends would like to watch every game of the World Series at my house!
Since some scenes (especially interiors) look pretty dark, if I can get my tv to remember that I want the Contrast at 92 and the Brightness about 82 (as opposed to the C100/B50-x that it keeps defaulting to), I'll be a happy camper. Even with that modification, the picture is not perfect. . .but I do think that it's $565 good.:cool:
zillion29 10-29-07, 09:56 PM Sheesh. There needs to be a support group for people who've been hosed by Samsung with these fecking God-awful televisions.
I got my TXS3082WHX/XAA back in January of 2007. Right out of the box it had the now-legendary picture tilt to the lower left. A few hours into it's life, it began the equally legendary high-pitched whine. My wife gave me a load of crap about taking it back (too much stress or something, I believe was the speech I got) and so we kept it. Now, 10 months later, Wifey has decided that living with an ear-splitting whine is too much to handle for her and we've placed a service call with Samsung.
I can't wait to see how all of this turns out. On one hand, I'm excited about the prospect of this possibly being fixed, but I'm also leary of what might happen due to the sheer number of negative experiences that have been posted in this forum. Updates to follow.
Man!
I'm sorry to hear about the bad experiences more than a few folks have had with Samsung Slimfits.
In a CRT, I probably could have done better with a Panasonic Tau-flat 16:9 HD or a Sony or Mitsubishi or Toshiba. . .but I feel satisfied. I like my tv set. I would have no hesitation about returning it if it failed to perform.
Are there any code geeks out there capable of using the USB port to copy the onboard software and tweak it?:eek:
mike 01hawk 10-31-07, 11:35 PM Crazy question... anyone run old school consoles thru this thing? NES, SNES, N64, PS1, etc?
Noobie here. Well i have a 3079 and i purchased this unit in jan of 06 at cc. I also purchased the extend warrenty. Well in the last 3 months the geometry problem has become worse. and i have a blueish area coming from the top right corner. Well call cc and they sent a tech out to look at it. He told me that the bowing effect was normal but the right corner is just a bit past acceptable. The bowing i have is on the top of the set and is huge. he said a new tube will fix the blueish problem but the bowing is "normal fro a crt" Well i know that a friend has a sony 34" crt and has no bowing issues. So i called cc and they told me that they will not replace the tv only the tube. If the bowing does not get fixed with a new tube how would i go about getting this thing replaced? I am confused i spent the extra 250 for the protection package and the major problem with the set will not get fixed. Who should i contact. I just want a tv that has no issues and from what i've read here is the Slimfit is a doomed to problems tv. Any help would be great. and yes i have tried all the service menu adjustments to no avail.
thor von clemson 11-04-07, 12:19 AM Does anyone have anything positive to say about the TXT3093? I can get one tomorrow for under $500 at a local store. I guess I could always return it if there are any problems.
It sounds like there are some reliability issues, especially with the picture and the noise. Our home theater is generally pretty loud so I am sure the noise would not be a problem, however I am a little concerned about the picture problems. I would like this to last a long time. Our 20" Toshiba dvd/vhs player tv has lasted for many years. The picture quality is just fine and I guess I can't say I've noticed any discoloration... I think the point I am trying to make is I am not too picky.
Would this be a good idea?
GhaSper_- 11-04-07, 01:28 AM I saw the 92 and 93 model's next to eachother and saw very little difference, but the 93 still has problems with showing certain letters fully like it should be. Try looking for a Sony 955 or 970 by looking at stores physically around you is your best bet for a good HD crt tv. There very hard to find these days but it's worth a try.
I'm still happy with my 3092.
That's even though--in taking a really close look at a 4:3 picture displayed as it is broadcast (with the black columns left & right)--the verticals are not absolutely straight. If I hold a yardstick up against the screen, it is slightly more evident.
However--and this is a big point, in my opinion--there is mention in the owner's manual and a separate sheet pertaining to the warranty that they do *NOT* recommend viewing 4:3 as such more than 15% of the time your set is on, because those bars can burn into the screen. So I took the hint, and if I get a 4:3 SD broadcast (which is the way most television signals--even the digital ones--are still transmitted), I pop the little button on the remote down by the signal strength button to upconvert the image to full-screen, and it may be widened (just slightly anamorphic) but not to the point that it is objectionable. It's much less intrusive than letter-box-bars or black columns (which never bugged me much in the first place, unlike some folks I have known).
All my stations are received off the air digitally. That means the picture is pretty good even in standard definition. But right now only one local channel does their news in 16:9 HD; unless it's a football game or a PBS show in that format, nearly all the daytime talk crap & game shows are 4:3 SD. This past weekend CBS showed some college games in 16:9 HD, but what I saw of ABC's college games on Saturday was all 4:3 SD.
When I get a broadcast in true HD at 16:9--like the World Series on Fox, or NFL games on CBS or NBC--it is dramatically sharper and clearer than any analog broadcast I ever got on my 4:3 set. And it's much sharper than a comparable plasma or LCD at 30" on the diagonal.
I'm looking forward to the day when all new broadcasts are 16:9 HD. That's what I bought my tv set for, really.
Until then, we'll have to live with this hodgepodge of SD/HD 4:3/16:9. Sub-optimal but watchable.
Maybe that sums up my attitude to this particular model. It does very well with 16:9 HD. It looks great. I'm happy.
I probably could have gotten a somewhat better 16:9 CRT from Sony, Toshiba or Mitsubishi. But definitely not for $565.
zillion29 11-06-07, 12:15 PM The Samsung-appointed service tech came today to check out the numerous, but common, issues with my 3082. He turned it on and heard the horrible cracking noise and said, "Okay, that's normal." Then he realized that he had to hit the button TWICE to get it to power up and he said, "Okay, that's NOT normal."
Basically I'm getting a new main board and a new tube. He said he services numerous SlimFits and they all suck, but he's pretty confident most of it can get straightened out.
He also used the service menus to adjust the picture. The tilt is still there but he determined that I was missing 15% of my picture because it was set wrong from the factory. Thanks, Samsung. Dooshes.
New tube and board should be installed within two weeks. Am I too optimistic for hoping that it might get fixed?
Flyboye2002 11-09-07, 05:46 PM So, now after being pissed about the horrible geometry problems I've noticed, my set is starting to show a horizantal line across the center of the screen when first powered up. After a few seconds it goes away as the picture starts to fill the screen. I'd suspect a power supply problem causing the white line when it's first turned on. The transformer is buzzing louder too. This TV set is nothing but a piece of ****. Anyone who is considering buying a Samsung....just read a few pages of this thread. More bad comments than positive. DO NOT BUY A SAMSUNG TV
fizzleation 11-09-07, 11:52 PM Ok, new owner of a txt-3093, but I'm not asking for help. Instead, I have some advice.
When I brought the set home, I immediately plugged the power cord straight into the wall and I connected my coax straight from the source to the jack on the tv. I immediatly noticed the infamous purple splotches in the lower corners of the screen. I then thought I would attempt running the power and coax through my Monster powercenter HTS 2000 powerstrip. I turned the set on and believe it or not, THE SPLOTCHES WERE GONE! I have tried HD and SD channels, DVDs, XBOX 360 through HDMI and Component. All of the components touching connected to the tv in any way are plugged into the powercenter (even the ethernet going to the 360... excessive I know but I really want this tv to work...). After 3 days of trying to get bowing or splotches, I can't do it. Maybe this is luck, coincidence or solving only a problem with my set and not the great majority, but I thought I would share. Best of luck to all of you and thanks for your help in the past!
fizzleation 11-09-07, 11:55 PM Also, I work for a large electronics retailer, and from what I have heard from people who work on these in the stores, all the CRTs are pretty sensitive to dirty power. The powersupply issues and hissing speakers are also fixed by getting clean power to the unit. Clearly the craftsmanship of the PSUs in these samsungs are especially bad, but hopefully this can atleast help some of you out.
altflix 11-10-07, 08:46 AM Also, I work for a large electronics retailer, and from what I have heard from people who work on these in the stores, all the CRTs are pretty sensitive to dirty power. The powersupply issues and hissing speakers are also fixed by getting clean power to the unit. Clearly the craftsmanship of the PSUs in these samsungs are especially bad, but hopefully this can atleast help some of you out.
Thank you for this information. The power supply design does indeed appear to be fairly minimal, which is why, as others have noted, sudden fluctuations in program content brightness can cause brief and rapid changes in image size and geometry...the tell-tale signs of an inadequate (cheap!) PSU. Also, as you point out, the PSU seems to be very sensitive to "dirt" in the power lines; inadequate filtering? Regardless, I hope your set keeps working properly!
mike 01hawk 11-10-07, 02:35 PM Just got back from Bestbuy with a 3093. Used a 12% off rewards coupon, (tried to get them to PM to Sears, but they wouldn't do both :( ) My out the door total was $525.21 (OK tax is 8.517% :( )
Annnyhoooo... There are 3 BB's in Tulsa County. While I was there I asked the manager if this was going to be on clearance soon. She said that it was still an active SKU, but between the 3 stores they only had 7 3093s (6 after me :) ). Also, there were NONE in their warehouse... so the manager made a guess that these TV's will probably go on clearance within 2-3 weeks and once they're gone their gone.
I'm keeping my 3093 sealed up (well, the wife is :mad::mad::mad:, it's my "xmas" present) That kinda puts me in a rock and a hard spot........ cause by the time I get to open it, the return period will have lapsed.. but also by xmas there might be NOTHING in the way of new Tube HD 16:9 TVs to choose from! :(
I know, I probably should have gone used Sony, or waited it out... but I DO have 60 days that if the price is lower @ BB, I can get them to match it (I doubt it'll get below what I paid for after the 12% coupon though.)
Here's a good luck to me on getting a good set, it going on sale, and me being able to fix all the issues w/ the service menu.
BTW, I bought this TV 90% for gamming (NES, SNES, GCN, PS2, etc, 360 in the future when I get it) and 10% to watch HDTV, I've got a projector for main TV watching.
fizzleation 11-10-07, 09:23 PM Just got back from Bestbuy with a 3093. Used a 12% off rewards coupon, (tried to get them to PM to Sears, but they wouldn't do both :( ) My out the door total was $525.21 (OK tax is 8.517% :( )
Annnyhoooo... There are 3 BB's in Tulsa County. While I was there I asked the manager if this was going to be on clearance soon. She said that it was still an active SKU, but between the 3 stores they only had 7 3093s (6 after me :) ). Also, there were NONE in their warehouse... so the manager made a guess that these TV's will probably go on clearance within 2-3 weeks and once they're gone their gone.
I'm keeping my 3093 sealed up (well, the wife is :mad::mad::mad:, it's my "xmas" present) That kinda puts me in a rock and a hard spot........ cause by the time I get to open it, the return period will have lapsed.. but also by xmas there might be NOTHING in the way of new Tube HD 16:9 TVs to choose from! :(
I know, I probably should have gone used Sony, or waited it out... but I DO have 60 days that if the price is lower @ BB, I can get them to match it (I doubt it'll get below what I paid for after the 12% coupon though.)
Here's a good luck to me on getting a good set, it going on sale, and me being able to fix all the issues w/ the service menu.
BTW, I bought this TV 90% for gamming (NES, SNES, GCN, PS2, etc, 360 in the future when I get it) and 10% to watch HDTV, I've got a projector for main TV watching.
actually, as an employee of an unnamed large electronics retailer that may or may not have any relation to best buy, I know most of their stores have extended the return period all on purchases made from Nov. 1st till christmas. That means you can return it any time before january 31st. 2008. Also they will match ALL price drops in that period. And there is no need to keep the box sealed as they have no restocking fee on TVs. Hope this helps! I would also suggest going back to that store and confirming that, and while you are there pickup a monster powercenter! best of luck!
fizzleation 11-10-07, 09:31 PM Thank you for this information. The power supply design does indeed appear to be fairly minimal, which is why, as others have noted, sudden fluctuations in program content brightness can cause brief and rapid changes in image size and geometry...the tell-tale signs of an inadequate (cheap!) PSU. Also, as you point out, the PSU seems to be very sensitive to "dirt" in the power lines; inadequate filtering? Regardless, I hope your set keeps working properly!
Because I have debilitating ADD, I got bored and started calling samsung USA insiders while sitting at my desk today at large electronics retailer. One of their buyers told me this: "Oh lord.. that whole line gets a TERRIBLE wrap just for it's PSUs. The other parts of the set are built with AMAZING quality... but that power supply... what were they thinking?". She went on to say that it is very widely known, and that it is more than able to put out enough wattage, but it's sensitivity causes "display artifacts". Oh samsung... I want to like you so much but then you do things like this!
mike 01hawk 11-11-07, 09:18 AM How does the Slimfit handle 240p?
Wifey guess felt bad for me or whatever, and we opened up the box last night (I know, instant gratification = bad)
Annnyway, SNES games "jerk" or "bob" up and down. I'm running the SNES thru composite. After a bit the game starts to randomly jerk up and down. If I unplug and plug the connector back in, the "bobbing" goes away for a few seconds.... I'm thinking this has to do w/ the fact that the 3093 dosen't like 240p output.... anyone confirm?
What are my options?
-edit, does NOT occur w/ my N64 (which uses the SAME cable btw).
I'm starting to think it's my SNES kicking the bucket
-edit 2, does NOT occur w/ my NES (which uses a seperate composite to composite cable)
So yeah, I think it's localized to my SNES, either my SNES is bad (will test on my projector) or SNES just doesn't play well w/ HDTV (which doesn't make sense considering the NES works okay)
fizzleation 11-11-07, 02:02 PM Maybe its that you have one of the 12 remaining working snes's.... haha. Try the snes on another tv, if it works fine, then the 3093 just doesn't play well with it. But really bud, time to start saving for the xbox 360...
mike 01hawk 11-11-07, 02:11 PM Young wipper snappers!!!! :grumble:
googleme7 11-11-07, 04:51 PM Seriously dude, get a SNES Emulator and let your computer upscale the resolution. I am willing to bet you wouldn't see any distortion then.
mike 01hawk 11-11-07, 05:40 PM I'm a purist... but I DO need to figure out what I need to do to get my HDTV PC Tuner to connect to my TV (thru my Nvidia 7900gs)... assuming DVI to HDMI cable?
altflix 11-11-07, 09:24 PM Because I have debilitating ADD, I got bored and started calling samsung USA insiders while sitting at my desk today at large electronics retailer. One of their buyers told me this: "Oh lord.. that whole line gets a TERRIBLE wrap just for it's PSUs. The other parts of the set are built with AMAZING quality... but that power supply... what were they thinking?". She went on to say that it is very widely known, and that it is more than able to put out enough wattage, but it's sensitivity causes "display artifacts". Oh samsung... I want to like you so much but then you do things like this!
Thanks for the insider information. Do let us know if your set stays free of color spots/blobs and other artifacts. I really would like to order a 3092 as I prefer the CRT image to LCD, but you can understand my hesitation with all the reported problems, and the bowed images so clearly visible on store display models; no 3092's displayed, though. However, a power line filter/conditioner offers hope, it seems.
fizzleation 11-12-07, 12:43 AM Thanks for the insider information. Do let us know if your set stays free of color spots/blobs and other artifacts. I really would like to order a 3092 as I prefer the CRT image to LCD, but you can understand my hesitation with all the reported problems, and the bowed images so clearly visible on store display models; no 3092's displayed, though. However, a power line filter/conditioner offers hope, it seems.
will do. So far so good! it passed my usual sunday ritual of watching an unhealthy amount of football (in HD). It logged quite a few hours of channel switching while my buddies and i screamed at it. It worked like a champ!
I do have the 3093, not the 3092, though.
Does anyone know where/if firmware updates can be downloaded for this set yet? This would be helpful in confirming another rumor on the slimfits, I will fill you in when I can confirm!
virtual_rick 11-12-07, 03:25 PM I just picked up my first HDtv, I went with the TX-T3093, so far i'm overall impressed since just upgrading from a 27" SDtv. I do however see the infamous issues at times. When in widescreen view the image is crystal clear in the center but blurs to both the left and right. I have the slight discoloration in the upper right corner, and from time to time the speakers crackle but go away after a while. On occasion the very extreme edge on the right will have a slim vertical light, just as if the screen is slightly unaligned, overall though I'm loving this TV, I've also got my PS3 hooked although when in 1080i I noticed the 2 vertical lines sweeping back in forth on dark backgrounds. I'm hoping with these tv's reputation it won't get any worse than that.
mike 01hawk 11-12-07, 04:43 PM Sweeping lines may be ground loop... and that can easily be traced back to it's source (usually the cable company, you'll just have to plug and unplug until you narrow it down).
I had to buy a ground loop isolator, it plugged in between my wall jack and my coax... fixed all my sub hum problems :)
virtual_rick 11-12-07, 07:32 PM where would I get one of these ground loop isolator's and how much would it cost me?
mike 01hawk 11-12-07, 09:32 PM Well first you need to determine if that's the issue, is your tv hooked up to your coax? If so, unplug the coax and run your test... if that didn't fix it, go on to the next item. It might come down to it that you have everything disconnected and still have the issue.. who knows.
As for where to get.. .~$16 + shipping for a coax ground loop isolator http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=180-075
virtual_rick 11-13-07, 09:51 AM It is hooked up to a coax, I just have extended cable which is provided through my apartment I'd like to get full digital cable but when I got free cable right now I'll just take the weaker signal (assuming thats the problem) As far as the ground loop isolator I won't need it because I'm going to HDMI for my PS3 (which has the sweeping lines) If that doesn't do it then I'll see about one of those Monster surge protectors, its suppose to clean the noise from electrical devices.
Thanks for the tips though, hopefully I'll get this TV in tip top shape soon.
virtual_rick 11-13-07, 09:52 AM Another issue i'm concerned about (big distraction) is that when on 16:9 mode the left and right sides of the screen are slightly blurred, is this normal or is there a setting I can adjust to fix this? or is it my TV? I'd hate to have to lug this sucker back down stairs to return it.
Pummelnutz 11-13-07, 11:46 AM I bought the TX-T3093WH 30" Widescreen TV from Sears for $475. I have the issue of green in the upper left and very slight bowing. Overall, the picture is great. The HighDef looks awesome. Can the color issue be corrected and stay fixed?
plughplover 11-13-07, 11:48 AM As for where to get.. .~$16 + shipping for a coax ground loop isolator http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&Partnumber=180-075
Pay attention to the last two lines of the description of that item:
Operating frequency: 100 MHz to 1 GHz.
Note: Interferes with digital cable and satellite TV.
FYI - channels 2-6 and 95-97 are below 100MHz, and cable
modems/settops use freqs below channel 2 for return path
The one I personally use (and recommend) is
http://www.markertek.com/Product.asp?baseItem=JEN%2DVRD1FF&cat=VIDEOEQUIP&subcat=VIDPROCESS&prodClass=VIDEOHUM
High quality, very low insertion loss, very well shielded, passes all freqs...
On the other hand if you want to go really cheap, for temporary use only,
dig around in your junk drawer for a pair of 75/300 ohm TV adapters like
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103912
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062054
connect them back to back and insert in your cable line.
(ie 75ohm -> 300ohm then 300ohm -> 75ohm )
Fairly low insertion loss, passes most freqs, absolutely ZERO shielding.
N.B. - some of these 'matching transformers' do NOT provide true electrical isolation; use a meter to make sure there is NO direct electrical connection between the 75 and 300 ohm sides on at least one of the two units...
virtual_rick 11-13-07, 11:49 AM I bought the TX-T3093WH 30" Widescreen TV from Sears for $475. I have the issue of green in the upper left and very slight bowing. Overall, the picture is great. The HighDef looks awesome. Can the color issue be corrected and stay fixed?
I also have the green in the upper (right) of my tv, I'm going to pick up one of those monster surge protectors, I've heard they block out interference which may cause that. I don't' have any bowing in mine however, just the blurring on the right and left side during 16:9 mode. thats for my 3093 as well.
mike 01hawk 11-13-07, 12:20 PM Oops.. yeah, sorry bout that on the isolator link...
plughplover, the one you recommended is the EXACT isolator I have too, works great :)
I also have greenish/purplish hue in the upper left hand, hoping it'll go away, or I might 'try' a power cleaner... I f'n hate being a purist!!!
Oh and Virtual Rick, as long as you have a coax plugged into your system, even if you aren't watching cable, you'll still have the 'hum'/scroll if you have a ground loop issue. Just fire up your PS3, unplug Coax, and see if the lines go away.
mike 01hawk 11-13-07, 12:36 PM SNES owners:
If anyone owns a SNES, could you please hook it up to your Slimfit and see if it jitters?
Super Mario World's image jumps up/down every few seconds. I'm assuming the Slimfit doesn't like to up-convert the output of the SNES.. but that strikes me very odd, because my 3093 plays nicely with my NES.
virtual_rick 11-13-07, 12:38 PM Thanks for the advice, i'll give that a try once I get home from work. "If" I upgrade to digital cable however which is still a coax right? will it still have that sweeping effect?
and what about the blurring on the left and right side of the screen while in widescreen.
mike 01hawk 11-13-07, 01:07 PM Digital Cable is still cable, cable = coax, satellite is also coax, so yes, if you have ground loop, you'll still have the problem no matter type of info your feeding your TV, it's the physical connection that creates the issues (of course all just assuming at this point, it could very well be the power supply).
virtual_rick 11-13-07, 01:10 PM Digital Cable is still cable, cable = coax, satellite is also coax, so yes, if you have ground loop, you'll still have the problem no matter type of info your feeding your TV, it's the physical connection that creates the issues (of course all just assuming at this point, it could very well be the power supply).
So if I unplug my coax and still see the sweeping image it could be my power supply? and I'm assuming thats no easy task to fix right?
plughplover 11-13-07, 02:47 PM "Ground" is the 'zero reference' for an electrical system.
In your home, this reference is the 'ground' connection on your AC outlets. At some point, this connection goes to (literally) a long metal stake in the earth.
The physical coax cable providing your cable TV signal (analog, digital, internet, whatever) has an outer shield and inner conductor. The shield is ALSO connected to an earth ground stake someplace.
The problem that often arises is that these two earth grounds may not provide exactly the same 'zero reference'. Lots of possible reasons for this.
When this occurs, a current flows from one system to the other. Since the connection point between these two ground systems (AC and coax) is your A/V gear, this means that this current is flowing _through_ your A/V gear.
Note that the resulting ground path can be quite convoluted; in particular people often forget about cable modems, VCRs, DVRs, etc when diagnosing this. For example, disconnecting the coax from the TV does not prevent a path through coax -> VCR -> video cable -> A/V system, or coax -> cable modem -> ethernet cable -> game console -> A/V system, or ...
The ground isolater breaks the coax ground path, eliminating this undesirable current. To be effective, it should be placed in-line before all other devices connected to the coax (ie before any splitters, distribution amps, etc).
virtual_rick 11-13-07, 03:05 PM "Ground" is the 'zero reference' for an electrical system.
In your home, this reference is the 'ground' connection on your AC outlets. At some point, this connection goes to (literally) a long metal stake in the earth.
The physical coax cable providing your cable TV signal (analog, digital, internet, whatever) has an outer shield and inner conductor. The shield is ALSO connected to an earth ground stake someplace.
The problem that often arises is that these two earth grounds may not provide exactly the same 'zero reference'. Lots of possible reasons for this.
When this occurs, a current flows from one system to the other. Since the connection point between these two ground systems (AC and coax) is your A/V gear, this means that this current is flowing _through_ your A/V gear.
Note that the resulting ground path can be quite convoluted; in particular people often forget about cable modems, VCRs, DVRs, etc when diagnosing this. For example, disconnecting the coax from the TV does not prevent a path through coax -> VCR -> video cable -> A/V system, or coax -> cable modem -> ethernet cable -> game console -> A/V system, or ...
The ground isolater breaks the coax ground path, eliminating this undesirable current. To be effective, it should be placed in-line before all other devices connected to the coax (ie before any splitters, distribution amps, etc).
You know your stuff, and it makes sense now, thanks for the explanation, i'll try looking into the ground loop isolator, i've seen them for component cables do they make them specially for coax's to?
plughplover 11-13-07, 05:46 PM My post on the previous page gives link to commercial coax ground blocker, as well as instructions on how to homebrew one for testing...
virtual_rick 11-13-07, 06:26 PM My post on the previous page gives link to commercial coax ground blocker, as well as instructions on how to homebrew one for testing...
Cool, i'll check it out, thanks again.
PimpUigi 11-13-07, 07:06 PM Do you guys think that the 93 will be the last generation of Slimfit CRT's??
virtual_rick 11-13-07, 07:28 PM Do you guys think that the 93 will be the last generation of Slimfit CRT's??
No idea with the LCD's getting so much attention, they may release a 94 but I don't think we'll see any 95 models.
altflix 11-13-07, 10:32 PM I also have the green in the upper (right) of my tv, I'm going to pick up one of those monster surge protectors, I've heard they block out interference which may cause that. I don't' have any bowing in mine however, just the blurring on the right and left side during 16:9 mode. thats for my 3093 as well.
Do let us know if the surge protector/power cleaner clears up those color spots/blobs as it did for fizzleation. The several 3082's and one 3092 I have seen all have a slight loss in sharpness on either side of the full 16X9 image. LG's former slimfit was worse in this respect than the Samsungs. This may be a limitation of the slimfit tube, but you might check other display models in stores to see if yours appears worse in this regard.
WJonathan 11-13-07, 11:10 PM Do you guys think that the 93 will be the last generation of Slimfit CRT's??
I think I read Best Buy was not going to re-order any more Slimfit stock. With LCDs dropping so quickly, I would bet Samsung has closed the door on the Slimfit line.
mike 01hawk 11-13-07, 11:15 PM Update: SNES now WORKS with composite (via side panel) but now JITTERS with S-VID!!! (composite and S-vid are on same cable hookup)
ARGH!!!
I'm thinking maybe the side hookup is faulty/touchy? I may try to return w/ another model (they have 6 at last count).
-edit, yup, it's the f'n side panel.. I 'pushed' in on it a bit, and now the jitter is back w/ the Composite.
xbox360guy 11-14-07, 12:24 AM I remember the good ol days when I was a 3082 owner...NOT!!! I had the same common issues you all are having. Bad bowing, green discoloration on the edges and speaker hissing. I decided to quit being cheap and just buy a nice LCD. So I bought the Samsung LN-T4061F and couldn't be happier. Yeah it costs about $1000 more but its beautiful. Especially when watching Blu-Ray movies in 1080p and playing XBOX 360 and PS3. My suggestion to those having issues is to take the big leap and try an LCD. I dont think you'll regret it.....
virtual_rick 11-14-07, 07:33 AM Update: SNES now WORKS with composite (via side panel) but now JITTERS with S-VID!!! (composite and S-vid are on same cable hookup)
ARGH!!!
I'm thinking maybe the side hookup is faulty/touchy? I may try to return w/ another model (they have 6 at last count).
-edit, yup, it's the f'n side panel.. I 'pushed' in on it a bit, and now the jitter is back w/ the Composite.
Thats a tough one, I don't have a SNES anymore but I do have the NIntendo wii which has SNES games and I play Super Mario bros 1 and 3 and they're fine but that may just be an emulation thing. Maybe these tv's are too high tech for older consoles.
mike 01hawk 11-14-07, 09:05 AM Well, I cleaned the contacts on the AV connection on the SNES, and now my Composite works again, but svid jitters.
So I guess here are my options:
1) Try a different SNES
2) Try a power filter/cleaner block
3) Return/Re-buy another 3093
HomeVideoGuy 11-14-07, 11:08 AM Yes, please do continue to post your results with pairing a power conditioner with these SlimFits. I just purchased a 2793 based on the info in this thread; particularly from fizzleation. Thanks very much for the great info.! I have liked Samsung's styling on these since their previous model 3079 and purchased the 15" LCD version of those.
I actually purchased the 2793 online w/o looking at it based on the PQ of the 3079 and a 2782 I saw recently at BB. I was blown away by the PQ of the 480i version and if the 2793 is anything like the 3079 I will be very happy. I hope they have fixed the geometry issues as has been reported in many reviews.
I do intend to save up my $$$ and purchase a larger screen 1080p LCD display for my future HT needs. Those new 120hz Samsungs sound awesome. But I also wanted something that could be flexible display my collection of old recordings in 4:3 mode in either 480i or 480p as well as view modern HD in 1080i with the quality of a CRT.
fizzleation 11-14-07, 01:06 PM Just an update...
My 3093 still looks great! Haven't had any change at all.
I had asked earlier, thought i would try again, does anyone know if/where we cn download firmware upgrades for this tv? If i can find that i can confirm a BIG rumor that i heard through the grapevine.... thanks guys!
mike 01hawk 11-14-07, 01:47 PM Well make with the rumor all ready, it might help motivate us to find the firmware updates!
fizzleation 11-14-07, 02:32 PM As of now, it is a very loose rumor, if i can find that page i can verify it. Im new around here, i don't wanna ruin my reputation already!
mike 01hawk 11-14-07, 02:39 PM Oh and fizzleation, since you may or may not work at a major retailer that may or may not rhyme with "Crest Fly", what is the return policy of the Monster Powercenter HTS 2000? (oh and notice that BB dosen't sell that model, only CC).
I figure I could 'test drive' one and then return depending on results, and then find a proper (read cheaper and better build power cleaner) off the net.
virtual_rick 11-14-07, 02:52 PM I'd also like to know about this rumor as well as a firmware update.
fizzleation 11-14-07, 02:58 PM Oh and fizzleation, since you may or may not work at a major retailer that may or may not rhyme with "Crest Fly", what is the return policy of the Monster Powercenter HTS 2000? (oh and notice that BB dosen't sell that model, only CC).
I figure I could 'test drive' one and then return depending on results, and then find a proper (read cheaper and better build power cleaner) off the net.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=page&entryURLType=&entryURLID=&categoryId=cat10004&contentId=1117177044087&id=cat12098
The above is best buy's return policy. As far as this company you speak of that rhymes with "crest fly", you know what happens when you assume, right? And why would I purchase something where I wouldn't receive a discount? I am a man of mystery mike.... haha. ;)
As far as the rumor, i have been able to substantiate it to some extent. According to a "R&D insider", we will see "at least one more samsung CRT released, though it may not be under the SlimFit name".
I have no other information, nor was any marketing material or model numbers available to me. Obviously plans can change, but it looks like as of now samsung is not axing the line just yet.
virtual_rick 11-14-07, 03:11 PM http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?type=page&entryURLType=&entryURLID=&categoryId=cat10004&contentId=1117177044087&id=cat12098
The above is best buy's return policy. As far as this company you speak of that rhymes with "crest fly", you know what happens when you assume, right? And why would I purchase something where I wouldn't receive a discount? I am a man of mystery mike.... haha. ;)
As far as the rumor, i have been able to substantiate it to some extent. According to a "R&D insider", we will see "at least one more samsung CRT released, though it may not be under the SlimFit name".
I have no other information, nor was any marketing material or model numbers available to me. Obviously plans can change, but it looks like as of now samsung is not axing the line just yet.
I've been trying to work at BB for a longgg time now, they just won't hire me for some reason, I even have a degree in computer information technology and a clean background, no criminal record and decent experience.
mike 01hawk 11-14-07, 04:01 PM Overqualified methinks.
<-- CIS degree. Woot?
mike 01hawk 11-14-07, 04:07 PM Okay man of mystery, can you provide a link to the power filter that you bought... please? :)
virtual_rick 11-14-07, 06:23 PM not over qualified for geek squad at least, yeah I've live in shame but I'd be working on computers. lol.
I noticed when I ran the analog audio out to my stereo, there's a slight line delay. Enough that I've decided either to use the big amp or just the onboard speakers--not both. If I run both, it creates a weird sort of echo that drives me nuts. It isn't bothersome until people speak--but if they do, it's a very strange effect. I don't know if the delay is built into the optical audio out or not; my sound system is built around a Yamaha AX-596 analog preamplifier.
Does anyone know how to compensate for this? It happens whether the SRS is turned on or not. This inability to have simultaneous audio is the only feature I miss about my old 4:3 tv set. Whether I watched movies or "Austin City Limits," I could dial in just the right amount of reinforcement from my stereo to liven things up. And watching tennis, in particular, the sound of the ball getting smacked and the crowd reaction was breathtakingly real.
Different subject: Yes, these tvs are susceptible to variances in the line voltage. They definitely prefer clean power. I have a 4-speed ceiling fan on the same circuit, and if I'm not crisp about adjusting the setting on the fan, I see some odd squarish bits & pieces scattered over the screen. Digital artifacts are funky. But I'd still take the limitations of a digital broadcast over snow and/or ghost images from an analog reflection.
Can anyone recommend a straight line-voltage AC power conditioner from a computer store? I don't need a battery backup for my tv. I'm sure that the Monster units are fine--but they are definitely overpriced.
Another subject: I live in a suburban area, but I'm on the wrong side of a hill, and I have a Channelmaster 3020 antenna with a rotor. This is a large directional array, and not the top of the Channelmaster line but close (described as "deep fringe"). Even so, with local stations I find that my signal strength varies considerably depending on the antenna orientation. Sometimes it goes down to two bars. This surprises me. Also, I kind of wish these units gave you a numerical meter, as opposed to counting the bars.
scionracing 11-14-07, 09:11 PM Anyone know how to navigate a Samsung service menu? I need to correct:
1) A slight overscanning issue (part of the right side of the screen is cut off)
2) Tilt (the ESPN ticker line slopes upward)
I'm staring at the service menu right now and do not know what to select. Thanks in advance.
fizzleation 11-14-07, 11:17 PM Okay man of mystery, can you provide a link to the power filter that you bought... please? :)
Maybe you should try google? or better yet, froogle? Monster power hts 2000... good luck taming the search engine...
mike 01hawk 11-15-07, 09:14 AM There's also a 200... just wondering if ya made a typo.....ass!! lol
PimpUigi 11-15-07, 11:24 AM Just to make sure, try some other S-video game devices on there.
Sega Saturn for instance.
Make sure it's a 240p system at least.
64 isn't always 240p, but I think only games that use the extra ram pack are 480i, so it's probably 240p
Just to make sure it's the s-video.
Anyone know how to navigate a Samsung service menu? I need to correct:
1) A slight overscanning issue (part of the right side of the screen is cut off)
2) Tilt (the ESPN ticker line slopes upward)
I'm staring at the service menu right now and do not know what to select. Thanks in advance.
The service menu was confusing to me, too. It showed a fairly long list with some non-intuitive abbreviations. (I only used that menu to turn off the shop mode so I could preserve my picture settings, and that was the item at the very bottom of the menu.) I have read advice elsewhere in this forum that if you make changes through the service menu, it's a good idea to record the factory settings before you tweak it, because you may do some things you'd prefer not to have done, and if you haven't written down the starting points it can be a hassle to work backwards on it.
But as to the tilt: If you go to "Picture" on the main menu, scroll down to find the adjustment. I had to rotate my image clockwise ("right"), and it took 6 clicks to get it level.
HomeVideoGuy 11-15-07, 01:50 PM Can anyone recommend a straight line-voltage AC power conditioner from a computer store? I don't need a battery backup for my tv. I'm sure that the Monster units are fine--but they are definitely overpriced.
Just a suggestion, but you may want to do a little research before using a PC UPS as a power conditioner. I have read before and brought it up again in this thread (Post #73):
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=841450&highlight=ez27&page=3
But many low end PC UPS's output an approximated sine wave, or even some other form of "square" wave, rather than a true sine wave. The issue was brought up in the DVD recorder forum to use them as a means of keeping power to them rather than miss a recording. You may want to check the links provided by another poster. I had come to the conclusion that it may not hurt to use one on a cheap DVD recorder that, chances are, won't last long anyway. But, on a TV with a "problem" power supply to begin with, you may want to choose more carefully. It was also pointed out that many higher end electronics power conditioners also output an approximated wave. I was just afraid that the potentially increased current from an approximated wave may cause a PS in an electronic device to run hot and thus prematurely fail; especially when many electronics PSs are probably pretty weak. I would think a PC's power supply is a little more robust or at least easier to replace;).
scionracing 11-15-07, 02:01 PM The service menu was confusing to me, too. It showed a fairly long list with some non-intuitive abbreviations. (I only used that menu to turn off the shop mode so I could preserve my picture settings, and that was the item at the very bottom of the menu.) I have read advice elsewhere in this forum that if you make changes through the service menu, it's a good idea to record the factory settings before you tweak it, because you may do some things you'd prefer not to have done, and if you haven't written down the starting points it can be a hassle to work backwards on it.
But as to the tilt: If you go to "Picture" on the main menu, scroll down to find the adjustment. I had to rotate my image clockwise ("right"), and it took 6 clicks to get it level.
Ambam, are you referring to the menu on the remote or the service menu? I've already adjusted my TV through the remote menu and it is still off slightly. I am wondering what you go to in the service menu...
thanks
HomeVideoGuy 11-15-07, 02:11 PM Just out of curiousity, how does one get into the service menu? Is it in the user manual or do you need the service manual?
scionracing 11-15-07, 02:13 PM Just out of curiousity, how does one get into the service menu? Is it in the user manual or do you need the service manual?
Make sure the TV is off.
Press mute, 1, 8, 2, Power On.
scionracing 11-16-07, 12:35 PM So does anyone know how to adjust tilt in the SERVICE menu so I can make the Sportscenter ticker completely level?
Thanks
random tek hed 11-17-07, 12:46 AM I had a TX-S3079WH (30" 16:9) that I sold yesterday. It had horrible geometry problems. Out of the box it looked like it wasn't even set up professionally;horrible bowing and all kinds of crap. (It's obvious Samsung considers these Slimfits cheap, throwaway models.) Messing with the service menu I got it a little bit better, but it was still unwatchable in my opinion. I spent probably dozens of hours trying to fix it.
What a shame. Besides the god awful geometry problems, it had a pretty good picture (although the dot pitch could have been in a little finer).
I guess those electron guns just aren't made to work with the extreme angles that the slimfits need. Do any other companies besides Samsung currently make slim CRT's?
random tek hed 11-17-07, 12:54 AM Do you guys think that the 93 will be the last generation of Slimfit CRT's??
I think they'll come out with one more model then exit the CRT business for good.
altflix 11-20-07, 08:58 AM I guess those electron guns just aren't made to work with the extreme angles that the slimfits need. Do any other companies besides Samsung currently make slim CRT's?
To my knowledge the only other manufacturer - with models available in the U.S. - that implemented the slimfit tube was LG with their now discontinued 30FS4D television. The reliability may have been better on that set, but from the display model I saw, the image suffered from very noticeable loss of focus/sharpness on the sides.
sposerina 11-21-07, 03:46 PM I just purchased the Samsung 30in slimfit. and I've notice two very distinguishable discoloration splotches in the both lower corners of the screen. Searching the internet, I found that this maybe due to a degaussing issue and can be a self fix.
Has anyone had similar issues or clarify that this is indeed an easy fix?
altflix 11-22-07, 09:26 AM I just purchased the Samsung 30in slimfit. and I've notice two very distinguishable discoloration splotches in the both lower corners of the screen. Searching the internet, I found that this maybe due to a degaussing issue and can be a self fix.
Has anyone had similar issues or clarify that this is indeed an easy fix?
Read the post(s) by fizzleation on page 80 as he seems to have a fix for this problem. Good luck!
LaserDisc 11-22-07, 11:56 PM Wish I had paid a visit to this forum before I purchased my TX-3093W. Seems like problems with geometry, blurring, and discoloration are the norm, as they have been with mine.
Today my set started to have fluttering horizontal lines occasionally running up and down the screen. Knew it was the set and not my source when it was doing so when the source was off. It could be the particular input I guess.
What I am getting at is that the set needs service, but I'm wondering what I'll end up with. Are the problems ever truly corrected? I know most, if not all in some areas, repair centers are totally incapable of correcting geometry accurately. Will the blurring ever go away in the corners? Is it possible to view 1080i content without excessive cropping? The list goes on and on.
So for those who have had issues with the 93 or the 92 and have had it serviced/replaced, what have your experiences been? Thanks.
mike 01hawk 11-27-07, 12:28 PM -UPDATE- To my gaming issues (SNES jitters) that starts on post 2383: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12184850#post12184850
I got another SNES at the local Vintage Stock... NO JITTERS!!! :o :o :o
So yeah, turns out it was my SNES and not the cables, nor the TV.
Guess my original SNES didn't fare to well with all the hot/cold cycles while in storage in the attic :(
So, in summary, I think this TV plays nicely with most gaming systems. I think there might be a bit of lag induced during play. I was playing Super Mario World on the SNES and my jumps seemed to be just a wee bit off, but I think that may be due to my crappy controller or just the fact that I'm a bit rusty with the game, after playing a bit longer on the game I got used to the feel. I'll need to test it out some more to make certain there isn't any noticeable lag introduced while gaming on this tv.
So, here's are the systems and how they're hooked up and my quick impressions:
1) NES -> Composite -> Colors are a bit bloomy/blurry, but very liveable, there are issues with Mario Brothers, you can see extra background pixels on the left hand side, but I guess that's just the nature of the beast when it comes to Overscan I think it's called.
2) SNES -> Composite -> Same bloom/blurry as the NES, but liveable
3) SNES -> S-video -> Colors are much better defined, also the clarity is a bit higher, BUT it does introduce the 'mask' (dither?) effect. It's a trade off to decide between the anti-alsing affects of Composite, or the better image quality of S-Video
4) 3DO -> S-Video -> Works as expected, good god the birth of 3D was very painful
5) N64 -> S-Video -> Same dither issues using S-Vid, also, same problem with 3DO, lol, the teething stage of 3D sucks!!!! (I can fallback to Composite if I wish)
6) Gamecube -> Component -> Absolutely amazing, very impressive (tested F-Zero on it)
7) PS2 -> Component -> Very nice as well, (tested GT4 and SSX Tricky)
I Grabbed a wii and played a bunch of virtual console games on it (Nes/Snes/N64/Genesis) They all looked great. Nintendo decided to keep the original NES artifacts like the discoloration of pixels. I guess they did it to keep the retro feel.
PimpUigi 11-27-07, 05:04 PM Mike, no Sega Dreamcast or Saturn with S video?
Okay so, heres the deal.. when changing sources sometimes the picture fades to black... just started happening while I was sitting down to play some Assassins Creed. 30 day store warranty is still in effect, should I be crane lifting this bastard out the door and to the store... or should i need not to worry?
mike 01hawk 11-27-07, 08:01 PM Mike, no Sega Dreamcast or Saturn with S video?
I'm a Nintendo Guy :)
Never owned a Sega product, but I might have to breakdown and get a Genesis for Dreamcast here in the future :)
Mikeylaz 11-27-07, 11:30 PM Hi All - I saw a message posted a few weeks back about this, but couldn't find a response...so if it's out there already, I apologize.
My TX-S3079WH won't power back up...this is honestly the first time I have had issues with it in 18 months, but obviously this is a pretty big issue. So, if anyone else has had problems with this, do you have any quick tips on how to maybe fix this? Or, am I basically SOL?
virtual_rick 11-29-07, 10:27 PM Need serious help!!!, I have the 3093 and tonight had a few power surges, pretty extreme and now my tv is screwy, the left and right sides are purple and green and I don't mean the little corner, its almost 30% of the screen just split into the edges, is this a fix I can do or am I gonna have to return it?
Thanks in advanced.
virtual_rick 11-29-07, 10:41 PM I got it, simple fix, just unplugged the tv plugged it back in and turned it on and success the purple green was gone, guess it was a temporary glitch from the power surge, i'm gonna hurry and get that monster surge protector now for sure. Quite a scare lucky this time.
animalleader 11-30-07, 11:36 PM Boy I wish I knew about this site before buying a TXT 2082. I bought it because I wanted a larger screen size AND a CRT (not necessarily a slim, just a CRT -- LCDs look like pixel parties to me). I had been using a crystal clear, brilliantly-colored flat Toshiba 14" CRT (not a slim one); the Samsung is horrible. I have two options for image: mud or blood -- no matter how I adjust it, the picture is either sludgy or there's that red bleed off images lit to draw your attention to them (or otherwise bright). And both are blurry. Also, there's no way to toggle between the component (side) and AV (back) inputs, which is frankly absurd -- the Toshiba had three inputs you could toggle between. I've searched the thread and tried the setting recommendations several pages back, but they really don't help; the best the set looks is on "movie" with brightness and contrast above 50. Example: I play PS2 R-Type Final, original Sony cables nothing fancy on the Toshiba and it looks awesome, clear, sharp and magnificently colorful, and on the Samsung it looks as if the life were sapped out of it. Any advice would be appreciated, but -- well I'm not hopeful, and I still have the dinky Toshiba. (I don't watch TV air or cable, just DVDs and play games. If it's any help, playing emulated arcade games on a PS1 disc on the PS2 look *better* than actual PS2 DVD discs!)
Okay lookit. I'm frustrated and can't get a straight answer from anybody. I know 480i, 480p will not display properly unless at least one of the native resolutions is 480i, 480p.
I called samsung about the TX-T3093WH and the TX-T3092WH. The guy said that on component hookup you can actually select 480p, 720p, 1080i on the actual tv itself. As long as the input is actually 480p, 720p, 1080i it will be displayed in that resolution without upscaling or downscaling at all. He also said that you can get 480i displayed just like on a sdtv without upscaling by using s-video or the standard rca jacks.
As with the 2007 lcds you can only have 720p, 1080i, 1080p with justscan with no upscaling or downscaling as long as the input is 720p, 1080i, 1080p. I know the older hdtvs had issues with odd resolutions. All that's resolved with the major brands now.
Now having said that:
1) Does that mean the TX-T3093WH has 480p, 720p, and 1080i as native resolutions? I
know the older crts had atleast 480p and 1080i as native.
2) When watching 480i dvd material via component, how does the picture quality differ
when upscaled to 480p? Any noticeable differences?
I've read already that somebody said it's native resolution is 1080i. But the level 2 technician(and I repeatedly asked "If I put in 480p content on my xbox 360 set to 480p and the tv is set to 480p, will it display that picture in 480p just like an EDTV? Assuming all 480p resolutions are the same(meaning all 720x480 or whatever it is now)).
He said yes. He said he understood what I was talking about.
Ok anybody with an xbox 360 and the TX-T3093WH, spill. Is it true or is it not true? I don't want some crappy crt hdtv if I can't watch 480i dvds and play my old xbox games with as clear a picture as an SDTV.
Anybody smart enough to know what their talking about please help because this tv might be the closest to the best picture quality and 480p, 720p, 1080i being native resolutions which means I don't have to buy another tv later on.
Also on a side note(forgot where). I read somewhere that the justscan function for European 2007 Samsung LCD HDTVs have been upgraded to include 480i/p and not just 720p/1080i/1080p. And ofcourse you can't upgrade your firmware on your tv with theirs because the technology is different. HDTV lcds being made to support every other resolution than the only resolution that is universal and clear no matter what you input to the tv is Downright IGNORANCE. Jeez why this isn't fixed by now is !!! Somebody please tell me they agree on this last paragraph atleast.
louie826 12-04-07, 02:27 AM Also, there's no way to toggle between the component (side) and AV (back) inputs, which is frankly absurd -- the Toshiba had three inputs you could toggle between.
:confused: If I'm reading that right, you can simply do that by either pushing SOURCE on the remote until you get your desired input or use Menu -> Source List -> choose the input. AV1 is the back composite input, AV2 is the side composite input, and Component is the red green blue inputs in the back.
I have two options for image: mud or blood -- no matter how I adjust it, the picture is either sludgy or there's that red bleed off images lit to draw your attention to them (or otherwise bright). And both are blurry.
...
I've searched the thread and tried the setting recommendations several pages back, but they really don't help; the best the set looks is on "movie" with brightness and contrast above 50. Example: I play PS2 R-Type Final, original Sony cables nothing fancy on the Toshiba and it looks awesome, clear, sharp and magnificently colorful, and on the Samsung it looks as if the life were sapped out of it. Any advice would be appreciated, but -- well I'm not hopeful, and I still have the dinky Toshiba. (I don't watch TV air or cable, just DVDs and play games. If it's any help, playing emulated arcade games on a PS1 disc on the PS2 look *better* than actual PS2 DVD discs!)
There are my color settings, they may work for you:
Contrast 60
Brightness 40
Sharpness 57
Color 60
Tint 50/50
Color Tone Warm1
Also, you say you're using the original Sony cable, which may mean you're using the yellow input. I had the same exact problem as you with this TV: no PS2 games looks good in AV1 or AV2. For me, the picture was a bit fuzzy and everything had a greenish hue, no matter how I set the colors. I went and bought component (red/green/blue video input) cables for the PS2 and everything looked a million times better. There was no dot crawl, no off-colored anything, sharper picture and more color depth and I didn't have to mess around with any hidden menus. Component cables should be around $10-$20 and I highly recommend getting them for this TV.
And of course stuff looks better on a 14" TV than a 20" TV. Anything fuzzy is shrunk down and unnoticeable on a 14" screen. :p
In related news, no stores are selling the TXT2082 anymore. Then again, few stores outside of Walmart are selling CRT televisions at all.
I feel like I'm the only one who enjoys this model TV. Everyone I know that has seen it likes it too, especially in digital cable and component modes, even though there's a slight curve in the bottom of the viewing screen.
Noone knows? The guy at samsung took 10 minutes cause he couldn't find it either.
Yamazaki 12-04-07, 10:00 AM I personally have had the TX-T3093WH since July and now own all three major next gen systems, (Wii, PS3, 360) all hooked up to a speaker system. Look at the following link for a visual if need be:
http://a877.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/85/l_389e3f4d670cb9890af5edaa3e8f3394.jpg
The TV's native resolution is 1080i and from my experience the TV displays in whatever resolution being sent from the signal source. In reference to the game systems you can manually set the display resolutions and if said software supports the max of 1080i it will display as such. Keep in mind I exclusively use HDMI for the PS3/360 and component for the Wii but have tried component for the PS3/360 with both reaching the same resolution. Understand that unless you at least have component cables you cannot even display 480P on any tv. The S-Video input has only been used to display my laptop on the TV with workable results at best.
As far as original dvd content any upscaling depends on the player itself and I do not know if the 360 upscales movies or older software to higher resolutions. The PS3 upscales all movies and older PS2 software on this TV to 1080i, however, movies has a slight boot in visual quality but the limits of the older format are much more noticeable with artifacts and some terrible black contrast levels. In comparison my bluray Spider-man set is almost perfect, particularly in reference to 3. Hopefully this was helpful somewhat and if I missed anything I can try it later as I do have an old PS2 around. Have a good one.
Okay lookit. I'm frustrated and can't get a straight answer from anybody. I know 480i, 480p will not display properly unless at least one of the native resolutions is 480i, 480p.
I called samsung about the TX-T3093WH and the TX-T3092WH. The guy said that on component hookup you can actually select 480p, 720p, 1080i on the actual tv itself. As long as the input is actually 480p, 720p, 1080i it will be displayed in that resolution without upscaling or downscaling at all. He also said that you can get 480i displayed just like on a sdtv without upscaling by using s-video or the standard rca jacks.
As with the 2007 lcds you can only have 720p, 1080i, 1080p with justscan with no upscaling or downscaling as long as the input is 720p, 1080i, 1080p. I know the older hdtvs had issues with odd resolutions. All that's resolved with the major brands now.
Now having said that:
1) Does that mean the TX-T3093WH has 480p, 720p, and 1080i as native resolutions? I
know the older crts had atleast 480p and 1080i as native.
2) When watching 480i dvd material via component, how does the picture quality differ
when upscaled to 480p? Any noticeable differences?
I've read already that somebody said it's native resolution is 1080i. But the level 2 technician(and I repeatedly asked "If I put in 480p content on my xbox 360 set to 480p and the tv is set to 480p, will it display that picture in 480p just like an EDTV? Assuming all 480p resolutions are the same(meaning all 720x480 or whatever it is now)).
He said yes. He said he understood what I was talking about.
Ok anybody with an xbox 360 and the TX-T3093WH, spill. Is it true or is it not true? I don't want some crappy crt hdtv if I can't watch 480i dvds and play my old xbox games with as clear a picture as an SDTV.
Anybody smart enough to know what their talking about please help because this tv might be the closest to the best picture quality and 480p, 720p, 1080i being native resolutions which means I don't have to buy another tv later on.
Also on a side note(forgot where). I read somewhere that the justscan function for European 2007 Samsung LCD HDTVs have been upgraded to include 480i/p and not just 720p/1080i/1080p. And ofcourse you can't upgrade your firmware on your tv with theirs because the technology is different. HDTV lcds being made to support every other resolution than the only resolution that is universal and clear no matter what you input to the tv is Downright IGNORANCE. Jeez why this isn't fixed by now is !!! Somebody please tell me they agree on this last paragraph atleast.
Ty for the assistance. Most appreciated.
What i was wondering is that since the older samsung models have 480p and 1080i native. The tech guy said that 480p, 720p, and 1080i are native the the 3093 if you wanted to view such software that maxed at 480p 720p or 1080i. Do you understand what I'm getting at? Native meaning when i display 480p content on the tv will it be upscaled to 1080i. With the way you said it it sounds like 1080i is the Maximum native resolution and not just the native.
Because if it was just the native then every software that maxes out at anything under 1080i will be upscaled to 1080i and you would get a grainy ugly picture. For example since you have a 360. If You have an older xbox game such as Ninja Gaiden Black or the original which maxes out at 480p on xbox(the 720p version on 360 is terrible to look at. Set your xbox 360 to 480p and put in ninja gaiden black. If you see a grainy picture that is not sharp at all as compared to playing it on a 480i SDTV. Then it is being upscaled and therefore 480p is not native to the tv. If you see an even sharper picture then it is definately native and my problems have been solved and whenever i want to view 480p content or 1080i and hopefully 720p(not a necessity for most people) it will not be scaled. Also check out a 480i standard dvd movie and see if it's grainy also. That would be an extra plus.
After my last post I checked out an older tv's .pdf file manual. The TX-S3065WR's manual actually says in exact wording it's "native resolutions are 480i/480p/720p/1080i/" as the TX-T3093WH says it's autosensing on all the resolutions and the word native is nowhere to be seen.
Basically to sum it all up. If this tv does not scale any software no matter what resolution it is set at assuming resolutions on tv and input are the same and the disc are the same then that makes this the absolute best picture quality best hdtv there is on the market and I will buy this puppy. If it does scale then hopefully atleast 480p content and 1080i content will not be scaled assuming resolutions on tv and input are the same and the disc are the same. Then I'll still go buy the puppy. Did they just drop their native resolutions and just have 1080i as the only native? Or can you make my dreams come true?:)
Set your xbox 360 to 480p and put in an ORIGINAL XBOX game that maxes out at 480p(look at the back of the case). Then go to a SDTV and look at the same game and see if the SDTV looks alot sharper. Don't look at the cutscenes. Look at actual ingameplay. My old xbox games that max out at 480p on a hdtv look like crap unless in the cutscene(cutscene looks as clear quality like it should[weird it's not being scaled or it's being scaled right. dunnno]) Let me know and really appreciate the help.
WJonathan 12-04-07, 04:36 PM Ty for the assistance. Most appreciated.
What i was wondering is that since the older samsung models have 480p and 1080i native. The tech guy said that 480p, 720p, and 1080i are native the the 3093 if you wanted to view such software that maxed at 480p 720p or 1080i...
No, "native" means the fixed output resolution of the set. If the "tech guy" said that those 3 resolutions are native, then he misspoke. The ability of each set to interpolate and upscale input resolutions is entirely dependant upon the quality of the video prosessor within the set. It varies by make and model, and you can't make generalizations based on size or "native" resolution.
Well then what is the definition for viewing content that is 480i in 480i on a hdtv that has a maximum native resolution of 1080i where it doesn't scale the picture it just scans it and puts it on the screen. Ofcourse you could get a smaller picture but hey. It's clear as day. Just like the quality of picture of a SDTV. No grainy picture. That's what I was wondering about the tv. Hdtvs that don't display 480i content in 480i or atleast 480p content in 480p is completely worthless IMHO.
Support for resolutions other than an hdtv lcd's maximum native or native resolution is just now being released. Europe's LCD Samsungs(2007) have said to have included the justscan feature for all the resolutions(480i,480p,720p,1080i,1080p). America's 2007 Samsung LCDs have 720p, 1080i, and 1080p included in the justscan feature. Even though the native resolution maybe one of the three, you get 720p picture quality even if 1080i is the native. Sorry if the word native threw you off. Not real good with the wording.
Just ignorance that this hasn't been done already because it doesn't help sales really ticked me off. Ofcourse if this feature was actually advertised that you could view all the resolutions without it being upscaled or downscaled I think that would really help sales after a tiny bit of explaining. I mean how hard is it to just scan it and put it on the screen rather than scale it and put it on the screen. I must be a GENIUS! Wow that was HAAAARRRRRRDDDDDDD!(Sorry about that:))
With the Samsung's that came out this year in America if that were possible then the Samsung LCDs would have enough to replace a crt HDTV tube TV for me. Lower than 8ms pixel response can come later.
plughplover 12-15-07, 01:33 PM Interesting...
The 3092 and 3093 are no longer listed on the Samsung Slimfit products page
http://www.samsung.com/us/consumer/subtype/subtype.do?group=televisions&type=televisions&subtype=slimfithdtv
Hello, Yamazaki! I'm from Russia. I have the same TV as yours. But in Russia it's called WS32Z40 HTQ. I really enjoy it. I saw your picture and I think that you have great experience of using a different types of game cosoles. Can you recomed me what is much better for this TV : xBox 360 or PS3? And why?
Thank you!
I'm sorry if this question has been asked already but I'm having problems with my Samsung TX-S3064WR. The picture fish bowls and i'm not sure how to adjust it. If some one could tell me how to get into service mode I'd greatly appreciate it
I found service mode but can anyone tell me which of the options I need to adjust to get rid of the fish bowl effect that I'm seeing on the side bars?
locorito 12-17-07, 06:38 AM I have a TXT3093WH and am currently looking for a universal remote that works with the TV as the original is KIA, i have tried multiple universal remotes with no luck, if anyone knows of any that work with the tv lemme know
Yamazaki 12-17-07, 11:09 AM Hello, Yamazaki! I'm from Russia. I have the same TV as yours. But in Russia it's called WS32Z40 HTQ. I really enjoy it. I saw your picture and I think that you have great experience of using a different types of game cosoles. Can you recomed me what is much better for this TV : xBox 360 or PS3? And why?
Thank you!
It doesn't matter honestly as both systems both hit the tv's max resolution and look great. Although using the PSN store has a noticeable upward curve near the bottom left. Its the norm for the 3092 either way, take it easy.
Ambam, are you referring to the menu on the remote or the service menu? I've already adjusted my TV through the remote menu and it is still off slightly. I am wondering what you go to in the service menu...
thanks
Tilt adjustment:
From what I recall, that's in the Picture menu (not the Service Menu). You can adjust it 7 clicks either direction (dubbed "left" and "right" in the menu; just fiddle with it & you'll see which is which).
I turned mine 6 clicks right (clockwise).
All I've done in the Service Menu is re-set the thing from Shop Mode so it will remember my picture preferences. That Service Menu is not especially user-friendly or intuitive; I'd definitely heed the advice others have posted in here about recording the initial settings. Otherwise it may be hard to get them back.
I just bought a 30 in for about 500 dollars.
There was also a 34 in sony there which was only slightly better and had no remote for 750.
The samsung is a great TV so far.
tw1zt3d 12-27-07, 09:17 PM i've had this tv for a few months now, and the only thing i have even a slight problem is when its in 4:3, it seems a little more to the right...but the only time i notice it is when i actually look at the black bars and realize one is thinner than the other... if i could actually figure out the service menu to figure out which option would physically move the screen a couple inches i would, but for the most part no biggie...
oh yeah, i see the purple in the upper corner, but it completely goes away after watching the tv for half an hour or so
xraffle 12-30-07, 01:27 PM I just bought a TXT2082 and have noticed some flickering in the picture, most noticeable in DTV and Component modes. For those of you who own this set, do you notice any flickering?
Hi tw1zt3d,
To avoid burn-in, the owner's manual recommends only watching 4:3 (or any other format with bars or columns above or below) a maximum of 15% of the time. So I'd hit the picture size button to adjust it to fill the screen. Slightly anamorphic, yes, but not annoyingly (and barely noticeably) so.
If I don't have my set adjusted to fill the screen, that's the only time I see any aberration in image geometry. When I watch a 16:9 HD program, it looks just great. In fact, after having used their new LCD or plasma tv sets a while and gotten used to them, my friends who have bought non-CRT units rave about the sharpness & clarity of the image on my tv. At 30", it doesn't fill the wall, so it doesn't have that particular wow effect, but the picture looks great. And since they spent a helluva lot more, they really wonder if they got their money's worth. One of them actually told me "If my wife sees your tv, don't tell her how much it cost, okay?"
I feel like I did get my money's worth. I'd compare this to the way that people tell me my stereo set (2-channel analog, with a decent pair of JBL speakers and an outboard amp driving a passive Cambridge subwoofer) sounds better than their stereos and reveals more depth in the music even when it's not cranked up. It's a matter of fidelity. Do I have 5.1 or 7.1 or any of that? No. Just a really clean 2-channel system.
My 3092 isn't huge but it works well.
Still wondering if anybody can offer any help in the delay on the analog audio out. Whether the tv is set to surround mode or not, there's an echo effect that drives me crazy. Running the stereo audio though my sound system is the one thing I miss from my old tv. Like, watching tennis (the US Open), I could tweak it so that the pop of the ball and the murmur or applause from the crowd sounded as if you were right there.
zillion29 01-03-08, 07:01 PM And so the story continues.
My 3082 exhibited the horrendous whine and double-hit degauss and the deadly tilt to the lower left. Samsung-approved tech comes to house. He says that the whine is the crappy master board and the tilt is a defective tube.:mad:
He arrives three weeks later with a brand new Samsung tube and a brand new Samsung master board.
As he is installing the board, a part of it begins arcing so bad that it catches fire. He takes an old component from the first master board and solders it into the new master board. Then he mounts the new tube. The new tube is so warped and hideously defective, that he gives up trying to configure it after about an hour of fiddling. He puts the old tube in and plays with it.
So the whining was supposedly fixed and I'm stuck with my old tube that he made "passable" by adjusting out the tilt.
Trouble is . . . a week after service the whine is back and worse than ever. Not only that, but the screen has started to bow and flutter at the edges.
The horrible predictions made by others are coming to pass . . . there is apparently no way to fix these f'n POS televisions. The best part is that I have about a week left on my warranty so it looks like I'm going to have to go to war with Samsung over this $650 paper weight.
xraffle 01-04-08, 08:37 PM Well, it's nice to know that people are more interested in tw1zt3d's problem and not mine. Surely, someone here has a TX-T2082. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
what is the difference between the TXT3093WH vs. TX-T3092WH ?
right now both are on sale for $494.99 at best buy and i'm looking for something new and small for my office
shaderhacker 01-05-08, 11:32 PM Just got my SlimFit 30" today and I'm puzzled as to why the TV reverts back to 16:9 mode after I've switched it to 4:3 mode (since I have no HDTV cable). Has anyone else come across this? It will stay in 4:3 mode for about 30 minutes, then magically switch back to 16:9. Is this normal? Also, pressing the P.SIZE button on the remote warrants "Function not available" on the screen. What's going on?
-M
altflix 01-06-08, 09:11 PM Just got my SlimFit 30" today and I'm puzzled as to why the TV reverts back to 16:9 mode after I've switched it to 4:3 mode (since I have no HDTV cable). Has anyone else come across this? It will stay in 4:3 mode for about 30 minutes, then magically switch back to 16:9. Is this normal? Also, pressing the P.SIZE button on the remote warrants "Function not available" on the screen. What's going on?
-M
Sounds like your tv is in the shop mode. The fix for this is addressed in previous posts, or call Samsung and they will tell you how to return the set to the normal viewing mode.
Shaderhacker: Yup, your tv is set in Shop Mode. If you access the service menu (start with power off, 1/8/2/mute/on), that is the bottom-most setting. Be careful if you go to this menu, because it's easy to mess up things that you may want to go back to.
Otk: As far as I can tell, the only difference between the 3092 & 3093 is that the cabinet on the 93 is a bit wider because the speakers are vertical, left & right of the screen, whereas the 92's speakers are under the screen.
Xraffle: I don't have a 2082 but maybe someone could help you if you supplied more details. Is the flickering you mentioned while watching movies or playing games or what?
From all I have read in this forum, it seems that the power supplies on Samsung CRTs may be under-built (as if they could benefit, say, from a large capacitor in there to smooth out the voltage). I don't have the expertise to open the cabinet & install one; I may just try getting an external inline voltage regulator to compensate for the need for clean power).
Frankly, from what I have read of others' experiences with the Slimfits, I'm not sure that I would buy one, and I consider myself lucky that I have not encountered these freaky problems with humming & dimming & blotches that a bunch of people have complained about.
xraffle 01-07-08, 10:47 PM Ambam, thank you very much for helping me with my problem. Let me try to explain the flickering in better detail. The flickering is basically a very slight flashing that occurs mainly when a scene cuts from a bright picture to a darker one. It's kind of like some slight unsteadiness in the picture. The kind you see in old, classic movies. The flickering is more pronounced when watching HD channels and watching DVDs in Component mode. There is still flickering when watching in Composite mode, but it's not as bad.
What's weird is that I haven't experienced any of the common problems on my Slimfit TV that people have mentioned like humming, dimming & blotches. The flickering is the only problem I'm experiencing.
Thank you again for your help!! If anyone else knows what the cause of my problem is, I'd appreciate your help.
xraffle 01-08-08, 07:19 PM If nobody here has a TX-T2082, I understand. For those of you who have any kind of Samsung Slimfit TV, is the picture flickering on your TV??
I tried calling Samsung and they want me to lug that TV set over to their repair place, where they'll keep it and return it to me in 2 weeks. I've heard many bad rumors about warranties. I heard they'll just replace your TV set with a refurbished one that will have even more problems. There may not even be any defect on the TV, maybe all TX-T2082's or all Slimfits have that issue. This is why I'm asking for people's help.
For all of you who own a Slimfit, do any of you experience flickering? Also, do any of you know what the cause is and how I can go about fixing it?
thegame310 01-08-08, 10:09 PM Hi all, I have a TXS3082WH and I am looking to use it as a second computer monitor...just mainly to play my games on. However, I set it to 720p (I think 720p, looks better than 1080i) and I set the resolution of my game to 720p, and wide screen it looks great, however...Vertical, looks like junk... the top and the bottom are cut off, so I resized the monitor with the Nvidia control panel...and still the same thing? Any ideas?
csowle1 01-09-08, 10:00 AM Hello. I'm new to the boards. There is a wealth of information here; thank you all for posting.
I purchased the TX-T3093WH last weekend and I've returned it twice finally settling for the display model because it has less horizontal line bowing than the first two new ones I had - such as the ESPN ticker across the bottom of the screen is not a stright line; it is slightly curved. I found multiple ways to change the verticle lines in the service menu (tv off, mute 1, 8, 2, power), but it seems the only horizontal line edit is a complete picture tilt.
Anyway, I still have an issue that I also had on the first two TVs as well. When I go to the Picture menu and choose Dynamic, then change the brightness and change the color to Warm instead of Cool1, this remains constant as long as I leave my TV on. But as soon as I turn it off, it reverts to the normal Dynamic settings (brightness = 45 and color = Cool1). I have gone through the plug and play setup and verified the TV is not in Shop mode. I've also used the service menu and verified it is not in Shop mode but this still happens. Any ideas? Thanks very much!!
Amiable-Akuma 01-09-08, 03:49 PM ^^^I believe there is a setting if you press down when in the picture settings menu (or somewhere) - whereby you can turn the "return to default settings" button "on" or "off". I hope you know what I mean. There is a option that you can turn off or on that tells the TV whether you want the TV to revert back to prior settings and I believe it is in the same menu area where the picture controls are.
Amiable-Akuma 01-09-08, 03:51 PM Hey, all - I just got a brand new 2793 and love it. I've got a couple questions:
1. How do I check the firmware and should I consider updating or just think "who cares"?
2. How have you guys decided on which PQ setting to leave it on? I've carefully calibrated the Movie, Dynamic, and Standard settings individually - and man, I can't decide which looks best! They all look great in their own way!
csowle1 01-09-08, 05:34 PM Thank you Amiable-Akuma. I will try to find the "return to default settings" option when I get home.
Also, does anyone know how to get the HDMI black level option to become available? I have tried connecting my HD cable box through both of the HDMI ports and the HDMI black level option is always greyed out.
Tip: Monster 600 Ultra HDMI cables look better than component for my HD cable box from Time Warner.
Galaxy TV 01-09-08, 06:06 PM Hi everyone!! Im new to this forum and as a TV tech I thought that maybe I could give a few pointers as to what some may be experiencing in the Samsung TX-3079 (and up) sets.
First off the loud high pitched "squeal" that youre hearing can be tracked down to the horizontal output stage of the TV set. Theres a coil in this horizontal circuit that if not soldered firmly to the board and potted correctly , it will "sing".... Secondly the bowing and weird geometry problems that youre experiencing "ARE" fixable.
The weird colors in the corners of the screen can be fixed with a manual degaussing coil,, I fixed mine and I couldnt be happier:) Just buy a manual degaussing coil, stand back from the set, turn it on and run the coil around the screen and around the sides of the TV screen and back away turning the coil off. To fix the "Squealing" First I pulled the back off of the TV and with a magnifier light and glasses was able to track down the horizontal squeal (after pulling out the "deflection board")
There was a very noticable loose solder connection on the horizontal driver coil. After resoldering that, the "squeal" was gone, and hasnt returned..
I cannot stress enough the point that the screen "bow" at the top bottom or sides are NOT the picture tube..The geometry of the picture CAN be drastically improved by using the TV's built in service mode. Now I dont have a good crosshatch pattern generator, so I downloaded a .jpg of a crosshatch pattern and burned it to DVD to display on the TV screen,using that and the service menu I was able to correct the geometry...I have the service adjustment manual here on my desktop if anyone wants it contact me via email and I'll gladly send it to you.(You'll need pdf to read it) I cannot stress enough , another point. BEFORE you attempt to adjust anything on your set via the service menu take a pic of the original settings, or jot them down first so you'll have something to refer to later in case something goes wrong "( It happens ) I have a fairly decent picture now, without the ringing "Squealing" noise now , and am satisfied with my results.. Thanks for letting me share that with you and I hope it helped... galaxy TV
xraffle 01-09-08, 11:48 PM Wow! I am shocked at how dead this board is. I don't mean to be impatient and sound like a jerk, but the warranty on my TV is not unlimited, so the clock is ticking. If nobody here is able to answer my question, does anybody know any other forum where my question might get answered. Sadly, I think this is the only one.
Amiable-Akuma 01-10-08, 01:53 AM ^^^raffle, I haven't experienced what you describe - but I also haven't had much time to watch in general nor have I been on the look-out for what you describe. My set doesn't have any of the other problems either. Just got the Movie mode setting further calibrated and have become shocked at how great the picture looks. I'll report back to you if and when I notice flicker though.
csowle1 01-10-08, 11:11 AM Galaxy TV: Thanks for the guide. I'll check it out.
xraffle: 84 pages is hardly a dead board. I just think no one has an answer. I haven't experience the issue you have either. I recommend acting on that warranty.
Amiable-Akuma: I think I fixed the issue with my screen settings changing back to the default every time I turn the TV off. It was not the Default option on the Picture menu. That only changes things back to default. I changed the "DCC" setting in the service menu from ON to OFF and it seems to have fixed the issue.
I have a service man coming by the house tomorrow to see if there is a way to adjust the horizontal bowing. I will ask about why the HDMI Black Level option is always greyed out. I will also see if any of these answers is in the guide I got from [Galaxy TV] as well.
Thanks
xraffle 01-10-08, 11:36 AM Thank you! So I know that all Simfits don't have that problem. But maybe all TX-T2082's have that problem.
And Samsung's warranty is useless. I called and they want me to lug that heavy 20" set over to their repair place that is miles and miles away. They'll keep the set for 2 weeks and I'll have to drive there again to pick it up and lug it back home. Many people told me that with warranties, they'll just mess up your set even more.
So now I have a different question. For those you have used Samsung's warranty, how good was it? Did it fix your problem?
csowle1 01-10-08, 05:16 PM xraffle, I don't know. I'm using Best Buy's service plan. They sending someone to my house within 3 days. But if it is less than a 27" like yours they require me to bring it in as well.
When I called Samsung earlier they connected me with a local service center that would also come to my house since the TV is 27" or larger, but Samsung didn't know what they were talking about because that service center only does plasmas and LCDs.
So I promptly called Best Buy instead.
xraffle 01-10-08, 07:41 PM Yeah, that's the problem. If the TV is less than 27" like mine, you have to lug it over there. I find that so stupid as 20" is not that small and it's a CRT so it's heavy. That proves what a joke these warranties are. I have a friend who had a TV, not sure what the brand was but it wasn't a Samsung, but he had a problem with the TV while it was under warranty. He had them fix it and they ended up damaging it even more. This is why I'm so hesitant to get it fixed. Boy, did I learn my lesson! Next time, I'm buying a non-Samsung flat LCD. I've never had a problem with a Sony TV. I should've stuck with that brand.
louie826 01-11-08, 12:27 AM If nobody here has a TX-T2082, I understand. For those of you who have any kind of Samsung Slimfit TV, is the picture flickering on your TV??
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For all of you who own a Slimfit, do any of you experience flickering? Also, do any of you know what the cause is and how I can go about fixing it?
The only noticeable flickering on the screen of my 2082 happens in one of these situations:
* HD 16:9 channel in wide view
* anything with very thin lines horizontially
* viewing anything from a PAL source
I never noticed any flickering in transitions between bright and dark scenes, but I do notice a faint rainbow band in the upper part of the screen during some dark scenes.
As for fixing it, it has a 480i screen resolution, so I just assumed the flickering due to the interlaced resolution.
There is an deinterlace option in the hidden system menu somewhere (power off the tv, push menu 1 8 2 power on the remote). Check to see if it's turned on.
xraffle 01-11-08, 12:27 PM Louie, thank your very much for your response. Since you're the only one here with a 2082, you're my only hope for getting help. So I have a few questions:
1) Do you also notice flickering when watching DVDs on the Component mode?
2) If the flickering is normal because of the interlaced resolution, then why didn't my older CRTs flicker?
3) I was able to access the hidden service menu (the real code is mute 1 8 2 power), but I'm not sure what I'm supposed to adjust in order to change the deinterlace option. What do I change? I couldn't find any option that has the word 'deinterlace.'
Thank you in advance!!
DarkNessBear 01-11-08, 04:34 PM Oh god, I f'ed up my TV. I followed some calibration ideas in the "Mute 2 7 1 Power" (whatever it is) menu and now its all distorted and I didn't write down the original settings.
I have the TXR30. 30" can someone please help me get it back to original?!
xraffle 01-11-08, 04:54 PM Wow! You shouldn't have played around with the settings, especially without writing down the original settings first. I wish I can help you but I can't as I don't have a TXR30.
Those hidden service menu are complicated. There are so many things to calibrate, many of which I don't know what they are. This is why I'm asking Louie which of those adjusts the deinterlacer. Since I don't see the word 'deinterlace' anywhere on the menu, there must be some fancy word for it that I don't know.
csowle1 01-11-08, 05:36 PM I think there are a couple of reset options in the service menu. you might try that DarkNessBear
DarkNessBear 01-11-08, 06:55 PM I think there are a couple of reset options in the service menu. you might try that DarkNessBear
I could only find one, and all it does is reset all the TV settings. Not the deflection settings.
Is there another one? :confused:
And one more question, I want to upgrade to the Samsung 4671f.
What is a good selling price for the Samsung TX30? I've been selling it at 485. Is that good? Where do you guys sell your tv's when your done?
xraffle 01-12-08, 12:27 AM Ok, after playing around with my 2082 TV set, I finally found out what the cause is. Apparently, I have a backlight problem. I am sure of this because when lowered the contrast to 20, there was no flickering at all. Of course, that contrast is too low for me keep it that way. I just did it as a test and it seems like I ended up with a defective backlight. It's funny. I had this set for 3 months now and it has always flickered from Day 1. I guess it's just a matter of time until backlight stops working completely and then I'll have to buy another set. As for the warranty, I won't bother as my friend had a horrible experiece with those in the past. I just will not buy Samsung anymore.
turbospeed 01-12-08, 12:59 AM crts dont use a backligth , the problem here is the power supply , i wonder if there any way to "upgrade" it , maybe better capacitors or something.
xraffle 01-12-08, 01:36 AM crts dont use a backligth , the problem here is the power supply , i wonder if there any way to "upgrade" it , maybe better capacitors or something.
Oh! Do you have the same flickering problem too?
It could be a power supply problem as louie seems to have the same issue. Now, it makes sense. When I lower the contrast to 20, the picture is much darker and uses less power, so there would be no flickering. When I increase the contrast to 80, which is what I use, then it uses more power, causing more flickering.
I just can't believe Samsung would make CRTs that have weak power supplies. My parents' 8 year old Samsung TV is a CRT and doesn't have any weak power supply. I guess Samsung only has this problem with newer CRTs.
Now, another question. Is there anyway to upgrade the power supply?? I know Ambam said something about getting an external inline voltage regulator. I wonder if that would work.
Amiable-Akuma 01-12-08, 05:18 PM Hey, guys - thanks for all your replies and comments. Love my 2793. Bought it mainly because I was sick of SD looking bad on my high-end LCD - but now I find myself using it to watch all content.
This board has solved almost all my questions but I have two final ones remaining:
1. I bought my set brand new. How much should I/everyone consider burn-in to be a problem with these sets? I recognize that Samsung notes it is an issue. But to what extremes should we go to combating it and how? I understand the first 100 hours for a new set are the most important/sensitive. Can I completely relax after that? Currently I haven't even watched a full movie (that displays black bars on the top or side) without stopping several times along the way to turn everything off and let it rest for a bit. Is that too crazy or what? How should I worry about and generally handle the concern of burn-in with this set?
2. I noticed in one or two movies that I watched (mainly Rush Hour 3 on Blu-ray) that at the top of the top "black bar" with the TV displaying 2:40 ratio content - that just under that black bar is like a very thin but noticeable layer of like greenish color or something. It is like a hazy extra border at the very top of the screen or something that can be very distracting if you are looking for it. I don't notice on other movies that much though... - Has anybody seen this kind of thing? Is it an issue or is it nothing? And it could probably just be the transfer of the particular disc, right? Or what?
Thanks...
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