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prossi
01-14-08, 12:09 AM
OK. I found out how to get into the service menu, and tweaked a few
things .. but when I was done there was no obvious way to get out.

So I just turned the TV off. The new settings seem to have held
but all of my channel info, and other customization was gone.

Is there a way to get out of service menu without reseting everything?

Is there any documentation for service mode? Most of the parameter
descriptions made sense but a few provided no idea what they were for.

This is a TXS-3082

csowle1
01-14-08, 12:34 PM
Well the service man from Best Buy stopped by Friday. I still had the issue with horizontal line bowing - such as the ESPN ticker across the bottom of the screen is not a stright line; it is slightly curved. Also I wanted to ask why the HDMI black level option is never available even though I was connected to my HD cable box and HD DVD player with HDMI cables

The Best Buy visit was a waste of time. First he didn't remember the code to the service menu, then he didn't even know what the options in the service menu did. He just looked around the menus and tried to adjust a few settings to see what they do. I've already been doing that! All he managed to do was reset the line adjustments I had already made so I had to spend an hour to correct everything after he left. when asked about the HDMI black level option, he said my TV probably just didn't have that option available and it was a menu that was used by multiple TVs. While I could see that is a posibility I have my doubts because this TV is the top of the line in its model list and it does have HDMI connections.

What I've determined is that with a tube TV, you just can't get perfectly straight linearity, but you get a good picture and longevity for a lower price. With LCD or plasma, you can get perfect linearity and a lighter weight TV, but picture quality and grey scales are not as good unless you pay several times the amount that you pay for tube and life of the TV may not be as long.



So, does anyone know how to get the HDMI black level option to become available? I have tried connecting my HD cable box and HD DVD player through both of the HDMI ports and the HDMI black level option is always greyed out.

DarkNessBear - Sorry, I'm not sure what the reset options are on your TV, I have the TX-T3093WH

xraffle
01-15-08, 03:45 PM
There are still 2 questions that haven't been answered.

1) Is there any way to upgrade the power source of my 2082 CRT TV?
2) Is there any way I can turn off the deinterlacer on the hidden service menu? I already know the code, I just need to know what to adjust.

One of those 2 things is causing the flickering on my TV. Any input would be greatly appreciated.

DarkNessBear
01-15-08, 08:31 PM
Ah, you guys sure there is no reset for the: TX-R3079WH??? Or does anyone have the out of the box specs?

Ugh, I got it to look fine when watching widescreen. But if the camera pans you can see it bubble in the middle. And in 4:3 (shrinks the screen) you can see the sides are messed up.

louie826
01-16-08, 03:29 AM
Is there a way to get out of service menu without reseting everything?



No. It doesn't look like there is a way to keep existing settings after going into service mode. :(


2) Is there any way I can turn off the deinterlacer on the hidden service menu? I already know the code, I just need to know what to adjust.


It's under "Video Adjust 5" in "De Interlace"
0 = on
1 = off

The picture looks much worse with the deinterlacer off in my opinion. It sounds more and more like you have a unique problem.

xraffle
01-16-08, 11:54 AM
No. It doesn't look like there is a way to keep existing settings after going into service mode. :(


Yeah, whenever you get out of the service menus, it resets all your calibration settings. So, you have to calibrate the set all over again. Luckily, I remember my settings. It's annoying though. It keeps on setting everything back on 'Dynamic' which is a disgrace. The picture is sooo bright and the colors are terrible.



It's under "Video Adjust 5" in "De Interlace"
0 = on
1 = off

The picture looks much worse with the deinterlacer off in my opinion. It sounds more and more like you have a unique problem.

There is no Video Adjust 5. All I have is Video Adjust 1, Video Adjust 2, Video Adjust 3, Video Adjust DTV, Video Adjust Comp, and Video Adjust Movie. I looked on all of those and there is no "De Interlace" anywhere.

Whether my problem is unique or not, I'm not sure. But you said you experience some flickering on some sources like when watching 16:9 HD channels and I definitely see flickering there. But that same flickering is also present when watching DVDs in Component mode as well. I see a little flickering in the AV source as well, but not as bad.

ldeboe
01-16-08, 03:55 PM
Well, as a first post, here goes:

I recently bought a TX-T3093WH. I'm very impressed with it. I find it has a great picture, and I'm happy with CRT. When I purchased it, the unit came in SHOP mode. So, I went in to change it to HOME mode. Shortly thereafter, I saw some lines at the top of the screen. They were very fine, and after 10 min. of the unit being on, they would dissipate. Now, having been in the service menu before, I went in to see if there was anything I could do to fix it. FIRST MISTAKE: I did not write my settings down. I don't know why I didn't. I'm an audio semi-professional, and if I change a dial on an equalizer or change the gain on a preamp, I always make a note of it. For reasons unknown, I did not with the television. SECOND MISTAKE: I could not really make heads or tails from most of the abbreviations, but there was one called LINE CORRECTION. This seemed to be what I was looking for, and I adjusted it. It seemed to do nothing. So then I went back and found the DEFLECTION menu. I adjusted that...

After finding that I had seriously and negatively affected the geometry of my television, I decided to look here. Immediately I read the hundreds of warnings regarding writing your settings down, and that there is no factory reset, as each unit is unique. I read how adjusting the LINE CORRECTION was one of the worst things I could have done. I preceded to feel like an idiot for three days. I got online to read horror stories like mine. I looked at people's settings, and eventually decided that I should not mess with it more than I already have. I don't want to make it worse. So, I decided I will hold of on fixing it until I can get either a service manual (which I'm fully willing to pay for) or have a technician come to calibrate it.

So, does anyone know what I should ask about if calling a service place in regards to fixing the geometry problems on my screen? Does anyone know where I can obtain and/or purchase a service manual? (I did read in a previous post that these may not be available yet.) Last, but not least, is there any comprehensive guide to what the various options in the service menu actually do? I read the post regarding SONY SERVICE CODES, and found that to be rather helpful, although many of the abbreviations are different. I realize that some of this is repeated over and over again here. I just thought that if I never posted this, I would regret it. Furthermore, there may be something I don't know, and someone out there may know of something specific to the TX-T3093WH that could help me. Any help would be appreciated.

Regards,
Leo.

louie826
01-16-08, 09:12 PM
There is no Video Adjust 5. All I have is Video Adjust 1, Video Adjust 2, Video Adjust 3, Video Adjust DTV, Video Adjust Comp, and Video Adjust Movie. I looked on all of those and there is no "De Interlace" anywhere.

Interesting. Sounds like different firmware for the same TV.

xraffle
01-16-08, 10:09 PM
Interesting. Sounds like different firmware for the same TV.

Wow! That is interesting. I thought they were all the same.

My problem is indeed "unique" because the flickering is different depending on the source. While there is flickering on 16:9 HD channels, it's still not as pronounced and as frequent as in Component mode. The flickering is the most obvious in Component mode, it is less obvious in HD channels, then gets even less obvious in the AV and TV modes. Why the flickering is worse on some sources, I don't know. That's what makes it so odd. From what I read, a weak power source seems to be the most logical reason. Why I'm the only one who's experiencing this problem is a good question. But since I just discovered that Samsung has different firmwares for the same models, it could be that they installed different power sources as well, which means that some of them have better ones than others.

I've had this TV for 3 months now and the flickering hasn't gotten better nor worse. I guess the best thing to do is for me to ignore it. The only way to fix it is to have a better power source installed or possibly get a voltage regulator, which are both very costly.

Nicksterr
01-17-08, 07:31 PM
I got a TX-T3093WH last month for $500 new and am very satisfied watching it with the standard picture mode. HD on this set is better than any LCD I've seen.

I picked up a Panasonic upconvert dvd player yesterday and I'm not sure about a few of the audio settings:

Audio:
PCM Output: Up to 48kHz or Up to 96kHz? I can't seem to find this specification in the tv manual, or anywhere for that matter.
Dolby Digital: Bitstream (default) or PCM
DTS: Bitstream (default) or PCM

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

xraffle
01-17-08, 10:40 PM
I got a TX-T3093WH last month for $500 new and am very satisfied watching it with the standard picture mode. HD on this set is better than any LCD I've seen.

I picked up a Panasonic upconvert dvd player yesterday and I'm not sure about a few of the audio settings:

Audio:
PCM Output: Up to 48kHz or Up to 96kHz? I can't seem to find this specification in the tv manual, or anywhere for that matter.
Dolby Digital: Bitstream (default) or PCM
DTS: Bitstream (default) or PCM

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Those setting only apply if your DVD player is hooked up to a home theater system via the coaxial or optical outputs. If your DVD player is hooked up that way, then find out what your home theater system can handle by reading its instruction manual. If it can handle 96khz, then set it to that, but if you're not sure, then set it to 48khz to be on the safe side. Next, find out if it has a Dolby Digital and DTS decoder. If your home theater has those decoders, set them to Bitstream, and if not, then set it to PCM.

Hope that helped!

Nicksterr
01-18-08, 12:31 AM
Those setting only apply if your DVD player is hooked up to a home theater system via the coaxial or optical outputs. If your DVD player is hooked up that way, then find out what your home theater system can handle by reading its instruction manual. If it can handle 96khz, then set it to that, but if you're not sure, then set it to 48khz to be on the safe side. Next, find out if it has a Dolby Digital and DTS decoder. If your home theater has those decoders, set them to Bitstream, and if not, then set it to PCM.

Hope that helped!

So, specifically, those settings only apply if I'm using a 3rd party audio system? I'm currently using the built-in tv speakers as they work quite well and produce vibrant sound w/the Samsung simulated SRS Surround Sound feature. I haven't been able to find any documentation on the two 10W tv speakers. Currently, the sampling rate is set to 48kHz with dolby digital and dts set to bitstream. Everything sounds great and haven't had and problems...

Thanks for the reply :)

Blasst
01-20-08, 06:03 PM
Nicksterr,

Welcome to AVS.

I'm clearly am not familiar with your setup, but I would highly recommend getting a receiver and speakers to really give you a "home theater" experience.

TV speakers do not represent what you should be hearing.

Artwood
01-20-08, 11:17 PM
Does anyone know what ever happened to the legendary waltchan?

Blasst
01-21-08, 07:11 PM
Its coming up on 2 years since he showed any activity here on the forums.
Maybe he is using a different member name now?

BoSoxMole
01-22-08, 12:21 AM
I think I am WAYYY off here, but I am trying this anyway.

I have a TX-R3079WH and I was bored and pulled out the instruction manual. Anyway, I noticed that I have a ATSC tuner. So doesn't that mean I could just plug in the cable, do a little setting stuff, and get me some HDTV?

I also noticed that when I auto tune the channels, "Signal Strength" is gray. So I can't check that. Why is that?

Or am I way off?

Blasst
01-22-08, 05:09 PM
Yes, you can get HDTV over the air.

You'll need to attach an antenna though.

Home Depot sells some inexpensive ones for under $15.

Or you can always try a coat hanger.:D

BoSoxMole
01-22-08, 09:46 PM
I can plug my cable in and get them that way? Or is that what a QAM tuner is for?

I mean, I already get HD thru my cable box. I'm just curious.

qip
01-23-08, 09:13 AM
well its happening , the slimfit has started to make a high pitch squeal ,driving me nuts, the picture is fine but the noise is so annoying ...it did go away after long while but comes back...also noticed it did not make the loud pop when turning on ,just makes the squeal.....so for those who have had a tech come over did you guys have it covered under warranty or pay out of your pocket because my warranty was only for 1 year and im way beyond that so im not covered ...how much is this gonna cost me

Foxhound199
01-23-08, 06:07 PM
So I rather naively tried to correct a red push problem on my tx-r3079wh by messing with the settings in the service menu, and long story short, really messed up my picture. Can anyone tell me the default video 1 settings?

Also, if anyone has noticed or knows how to correct the weird redness on peoples' faces that appears in inputs through component or hdmi cables, I'd love to hear if anyone has an idea to correct it. Thanks.

BoSoxMole
01-24-08, 01:55 AM
well its happening , the slimfit has started to make a high pitch squeal ,driving me nuts, the picture is fine but the noise is so annoying ...it did go away after long while but comes back...also noticed it did not make the loud pop when turning on ,just makes the squeal.....so for those who have had a tech come over did you guys have it covered under warranty or pay out of your pocket because my warranty was only for 1 year and im way beyond that so im not covered ...how much is this gonna cost me

That happened to mine and I just hit it and it stopped.

miribota
01-24-08, 11:31 AM
I have a 30" Slimfit 3079. Bought it from CC in April of '06. Luckily I went back and purchased the Protection Plan a few weeks afterwards. I've been having the high pitched noise issues for over a year and I've had it away to be "repaired" several times (with it taking a month on average to repair). So that tells me the service guys have no idea what's going on.

The noise is intermittent, but it has been progressively doing it more often. It gets to the point where we can't even watch the tv since it is so loud and ear piercing. Other times you can hardly hear it. I've seen some of the geometry issues and haven't had any color or banding issues.

For all the reports I've seen and my own experiences... stay away from this TV and all their CRTs. If you want a Samsung, get their LCDs.

CC should be replacing the unit now, we'll see...

BoSoxMole
01-24-08, 12:10 PM
As weird as this sounds, I also cleaned it. I just sprayed that dust stuff and the noise went away.

qip
01-24-08, 04:09 PM
i cleaned it too and at first i thought it worked cuz the noise went away but soon later it came back....so i decided to remove the back panel off and see if anything was wrong , i saw that some of the adhesive sealer that was gunked on the tube had chipped off and fell on some circuits but it wasnt an issue the noise was still there ,guessing all that loud hard vibrating pop when turniung on tv caused the gunk to shake off ...anyway the noise is bearable now just a light squealing but i know it wont be good in long run

googleme7
01-24-08, 06:15 PM
For all the reports I've seen and my own experiences... stay away from this TV and all their CRTs. If you want a Samsung, get their LCDs.

CC should be replacing the unit now, we'll see...

Stay away from the 30" models maybe, but the 4:3 models haven't had as many bad reviews. It will be interesting to see what lineup Samsung has for CRT this year. They have already yanked the 30" from their website, like it never existed, even though Best Buy is still peddling it.

fizzleation
01-25-08, 03:35 PM
This may be a little random but I was so impressed that I felt it necessary to throw this out there...

I received a finalized test unit of the "Xbox 360 HDMI conversion kit" from mad catz about a month an a half or two months ago. It essentially adds HDMI to older 360s that didn't have the port already.

I plugged in the adapter and plugged the HDMI cable into my samsung 3092 slimfit and turned it on. I could immediately tell the difference. The colors were more crisp, and it seemed like text was more defined.

Now to how this relates to the television (sorry for my tangent....). The geometry issues and lag that i have seen while using the 360 through component were non existent. I thought I may have been tricking my mind into think it was so different, but upon one of my buddies (knows zero about electronics) came over he said "wow, what did you do with your TV??? it seems so clear!".

I am very impressed with this accessory. So what are your thoughts? poor component implementation or the advantage of HDMI's bandwidth?

Ambam
01-25-08, 04:15 PM
Well, although this comes too late for some Slimfit owners, I'll say it again (and I cannot claim credit for this advice; I read it in here well before I re-set my 3092 from Shop to Home mode, and I am glad I paid attention & followed the warning):

If you enter the Service Menu, you had better write down all the original settings. BEFORE you start trying to improve it.

I have not had this problem with my set, but from what some other folks in here have said, it sounds as if you go jacking around with the settings & it can turn into a nightmare. Kind of like messing with a fussy old-style carburetor: tweak this a little, turn that screw a bit, first thing you know the engine is very unhappy & coughing & chugging. Believe me I have been there, so I'm not trying to be a smart-ass to the folks who have messed up their tvs. You have my sympathy (for what little that is worth), and if I hear of a method to restore your factory settings (and there almost always is, with any device), I will definitely give you a holler.

As to burn-in: The Samsung manuals suggest limiting black-bar (letter-box or black columns) to no more than 15% of total time. So I just hit the picture re-size button to fill the screen, no matter what.

So far (unlike many others' comments here) I have had great results with my set. The only two sources I have used are regular (non-HD) DVDs through a component input and digital off-the-air broadcasts. If the content through the latter is HD (such as NFL games, BCS games, Letterman or Leno, most PBS stuff, NBC Nightly News), the picture quality is stunning.

The lone possible indicator of any trouble (and again, I suspect that this relates directly to the power supply) is that when the picture re-sizes itself (such as when I switch from the end of the lone local news broadcast on the local CBS affiliate in 16:9 HD to the 4:3 SD NBC affiliate before NBC Nightly News begins), there is kind of a big *zap* sound (almost as if something is arcing in there, although there is no flicker and no odor of any sort) when the image jumps from 4:3 to 16:9.

googleme7
01-25-08, 06:52 PM
As to burn-in: The Samsung manuals suggest limiting black-bar (letter-box or black columns) to no more than 15% of total time. So I just hit the picture re-size button to fill the screen, no matter what.

What is the point of having the TV then? If your zooming, you are getting worse quality than a 4:3 tv.

Ah, Samsung, your leader in HDTV Market Share 2 years running :)

xraffle
01-26-08, 02:02 PM
What is the point of having the TV then? If your zooming, you are getting worse quality than a 4:3 tv.

Ah, Samsung, your leader in HDTV Market Share 2 years running :)

I agree. However, black bars do not burn in the set because there is no image to burn it. What Samsung is claiming is that it would cause uneven aging of the picture tube because the middle part of the screen is showing picture while the top and bottom parts aren't. But, I just bought my Slimfit TXT2082 3 months ago and have been watching letter-box movies 90% of the time. I'm not listening to Samsung's suggestion. I refuse to zoom into the picture and degrade the quality. I have another Sony 27" TV in my house. I've had that TV for ages and I've been watching A LOT of letter-box movies and have not experienced any uneven aging of the picture tube. It's extremely hard for that to happen on CRTs. If they're that sensitive, wait until you get a plasma!!

sclawis300
01-26-08, 05:04 PM
I just had my third 30" slimfit serviced and the guy could not fix the bowed picture. He called samsung about the picture and the high pitch buzzing, the engineer said that it is a design flaw and that any new tv that I get will probably have the problem. Anyone have any advice for what I should say to samsung to get them to give me a LCD instead of another POS slimfit.

scionracing
01-26-08, 05:05 PM
This may be a little random but I was so impressed that I felt it necessary to throw this out there...

I received a finalized test unit of the "Xbox 360 HDMI conversion kit" from mad catz about a month an a half or two months ago. It essentially adds HDMI to older 360s that didn't have the port already.

I plugged in the adapter and plugged the HDMI cable into my samsung 3092 slimfit and turned it on. I could immediately tell the difference. The colors were more crisp, and it seemed like text was more defined.

Now to how this relates to the television (sorry for my tangent....). The geometry issues and lag that i have seen while using the 360 through component were non existent. I thought I may have been tricking my mind into think it was so different, but upon one of my buddies (knows zero about electronics) came over he said "wow, what did you do with your TV??? it seems so clear!".

I am very impressed with this accessory. So what are your thoughts? poor component implementation or the advantage of HDMI's bandwidth?

This is great to hear! I always wondered if HDMI would look better than component on a CRT. I figured CRT is analog and HDMI is digital so it might do more harm than good. But this is good news. I will buy this conversion kit. What is the return policy on them?

Thanks in advance

xraffle
01-26-08, 05:09 PM
I hear A LOT of people complain about "bowed picture" on their Slimfit TV. Now, what exactly is the problem? If your picture is slightly curved, that is normal as ALL CRTs don't have a perfectly straight picture. I have yet to see one. If you want a perfectly straight picture, you'll need to get a flat panel.

fizzleation
01-26-08, 06:02 PM
This is great to hear! I always wondered if HDMI would look better than component on a CRT. I figured CRT is analog and HDMI is digital so it might do more harm than good. But this is good news. I will buy this conversion kit. What is the return policy on them?

Thanks in advance

No problem!! Haha, and why would you assume that I know the return policy of a large retail chain?;) It is 30 days I believe... Also, it comes with an HDMI and optical cable. The optical cable looks like they took a piece of string, dipped it in driveway sealer then threw it in the box. An absolute piece of crap. The HDMI cable seems a bit better, and I had no complaints until I used a Monster 1000 series HDMI cable to connect it today... WOW! The colors have more pop, it is brighter and text seems even more crisp! I realize earlier in the thread I talked up the monster power center as fixing discoloration issues on the 3093 (and it still remains the only fix I have tried tat works 100%), and now I'm pushing a $129 (MSRP) cable from monster, but give it a try your self! the cable has 30 days to return it as well. You won't be disapointed! (I am not employed by monster, nor have I ever been or desire to be an employee of monster. I swear!)

googleme7
01-26-08, 07:43 PM
I agree. However, black bars do not burn in the set because there is no image to burn it. What Samsung is claiming is that it would cause uneven aging of the picture tube because the middle part of the screen is showing picture while the top and bottom parts aren't. But, I just bought my Slimfit TXT2082 3 months ago and have been watching letter-box movies 90% of the time. I'm not listening to Samsung's suggestion. I refuse to zoom into the picture and degrade the quality. I have another Sony 27" TV in my house. I've had that TV for ages and I've been watching A LOT of letter-box movies and have not experienced any uneven aging of the picture tube. It's extremely hard for that to happen on CRTs. If they're that sensitive, wait until you get a plasma!!

When I heard that, I did a double take, but then I figured it might be the fact that the TV is this newer slim-fit technology, that is somehow more susceptible to burn-in. I've looked around, but I haven't seen an actual explanation of how they were able to cut down the depth and still maintain the same resolutions. ie, what do they know that countless other CRT makers don't?

All in all, I am eagerly awaiting the summer to see what lineup they have for CRT this year, because they are for all intents and purposes, the last real manufacturer still making HD CRT's, so if they fail, it's pretty much the end of that technology, outside of the 20" SDTV's.

xraffle
01-26-08, 08:13 PM
When I heard that, I did a double take, but then I figured it might be the fact that the TV is this newer slim-fit technology, that is somehow more susceptible to burn-in. I've looked around, but I haven't seen an actual explanation of how they were able to cut down the depth and still maintain the same resolutions. ie, what do they know that countless other CRT makers don't?

Good point! I wonder why Samsung is the only company that can make a slim tube. They must have some hidden secret.

What's funny is that the picture on the Slimfit has similar characteristics that an LCD TV has. For example, some of my friends have an LCD HDTV and when contrast and colors are set too high, 'ghosting' problems occur on the picture. That same problem happens on my Slimfit but not on any of my older bulky CRT TV sets. It looks to me like Samsung kind of combined a tube and an LCD flat panel together in some way. That's just my guess.

googleme7
01-26-08, 09:51 PM
Good point! I wonder why Samsung is the only company that can make a slim tube. They must have some hidden secret.

What's funny is that the picture on the Slimfit has similar characteristics that an LCD TV has. For example, some of my friends have an LCD HDTV and when contrast and colors are set too high, 'ghosting' problems occur on the picture. That same problem happens on my Slimfit but not on any of my older bulky CRT TV sets. It looks to me like Samsung kind of combined a tube and an LCD flat panel together in some way. That's just my guess.

The funny thing about it is, they aren't really giving you much incentive to buy the 4:3 HD models. Everything in HD is 16:9, so Samsung is basically selling an HDTV that you can only watch HD content on for a couple of hours a day. It's downright hilarious. I wish someone would ask Samsung what they expect people to do in a couple of years when everything is in HD.

But, I would love to see a picture of actual burn-in on a Tube from watching too much Letterbox material. I've personally never seen any permanent burn-in on a Tube TV, not even a picture, and I searched the net. The only thing I saw was burn-in on a crt monitor, like an old arcade monitor and I believe those are built differently than CRT TV's.

evophile
01-28-08, 03:53 PM
The funny thing about it is, they aren't really giving you much incentive to buy the 4:3 HD models. Everything in HD is 16:9, so Samsung is basically selling an HDTV that you can only watch HD content on for a couple of hours a day. It's downright hilarious. I wish someone would ask Samsung what they expect people to do in a couple of years when everything is in HD.

But, I would love to see a picture of actual burn-in on a Tube from watching too much Letterbox material. I've personally never seen any permanent burn-in on a Tube TV, not even a picture, and I searched the net. The only thing I saw was burn-in on a crt monitor, like an old arcade monitor and I believe those are built differently than CRT TV's.

I asked this in another thread, but I figured I'd ask you Samsung experts too, regarding burn in.

For some reason my cable stopped receiving a picture and just went black. Before I could deal w/ it I got a call, got distracted and forgot about it.

I thought the TV was off for about 4 hours.

Can this cause any burn in or damage to the set? It was pure black...but I'm not sure if it is the same as letterbox bars because I was still receiving a signal, but nothing was showing up.

Thanks!

Amiable-Akuma
01-28-08, 05:34 PM
How do the newer Slimfits look calibrated versus the Super Fine Pitch Sony's? For anyone who knows, please answer.

I have a newer Slimfit and I can't really imagine the picture looking too much better than it already does - especially on an older CRT.

googleme7
01-28-08, 08:36 PM
I asked this in another thread, but I figured I'd ask you Samsung experts too, regarding burn in.

For some reason my cable stopped receiving a picture and just went black. Before I could deal w/ it I got a call, got distracted and forgot about it.

I thought the TV was off for about 4 hours.

Can this cause any burn in or damage to the set? It was pure black...but I'm not sure if it is the same as letterbox bars because I was still receiving a signal, but nothing was showing up.

Thanks!

Well, in theory, you didn't hurt your tv, because the screen was completely covered. Supposedly the phosphors age everything they light up (meaning anytime they display something). So, the theory depending on who you listen to is, solid black and solid white bars, logos, etc, will age the phosphors faster than watching a regular full spectrum of color. So, apparently the idea is to "burn-in" the entire screen everytime you watch tv :p

WJonathan
01-29-08, 10:59 AM
How do the newer Slimfits look calibrated versus the Super Fine Pitch Sony's? For anyone who knows, please answer.

I have a newer Slimfit and I can't really imagine the picture looking too much better than it already does - especially on an older CRT.

No comparison. I don't see where the new Slimfit's PQ is any better than the older models. Comparing it to a Sony SFP is like Mr Rogers vs Mike Tyson. And I mean the 60-year old Mr Rogers vs Tyson in his prime.

Flyboye2002
01-29-08, 06:35 PM
Well...my Samshit TV finally died last night. After watching this piece of **** TV for the last few years, I'm actually glad it died. I'm not getting it repaired.....it's going out to the curb tomorrow for the trash pickup. This has been a long learning experience.....DO NOT BUY A SAMSHIT.

Flyboye2002
01-29-08, 06:38 PM
Put the TV outside at the curb.....suck up the bad decision and buy something else...That's what I did. Samsung is junk....end of comment!!!

Flyboye2002
01-29-08, 06:41 PM
Guys...face it.....I did...we bought a piece of **** TV. Get over it....throw it out and go buy a Sony or something else. I've had Sony and Mitsu TV's all my life (28years) and they all still look good. This is the only TV I've ever bought in my life that was a total piece of ****. It's garbage....and the faster the trash guy picks it up...the happier I'll be....GONE!!!!!

Flyboye2002
01-29-08, 06:42 PM
Junk

xraffle
01-29-08, 10:13 PM
Guys...face it.....I did...we bought a piece of **** TV. Get over it....throw it out and go buy a Sony or something else. I've had Sony and Mitsu TV's all my life (28years) and they all still look good. This is the only TV I've ever bought in my life that was a total piece of ****. It's garbage....and the faster the trash guy picks it up...the happier I'll be....GONE!!!!!

Well, I have to agree with you. If you read a lot of my previous posts, you'll see that I complained a lot about flickering on my Slimfit, which is an unusual problem that I've never had with a TV before. From now on, I'm always sticking to Sony, as I have bought A LOT of electronics from them and have not had one problem with them. Whenever I decide to buy a non-Sony electronic, that's when I'm faced with problems. So, from now on, my motto is "Go with Sony or caveat emptor!"

I've had my TV for three months. I wonder how long it'll take before it breaks. From several posts I have read, I heard that these Slimfits have terrible longevity.

Just thought I'd let everyone know this piece of info. I've read that a "good" TV should last no less than 10 years. So, if you have owned a TV that had lasted less than 10 years, then it's probably not a good brand. So far, that has never happened to me, but it'll only be a matter of time before it does, since I was one of the suckers to buy a Slimfit.

xraffle
01-29-08, 10:18 PM
Nobody had answered my previous question, so I'd just thought I'd post it again. I know A LOT of people here can answer this as several people have complained about this problem. I hear a lot of people complain about "bowed picture" on their Slimfit TV. Now, what exactly is the problem? If your picture is slightly curved, that is normal as ALL CRTs don't have a perfectly straight picture. I have yet to see one. So, can someone tell me exactly what this "bowed picture" is and why it is such a problem?

I'm just asking because my TV may have one, but I just don't notice it. I do notice a slight curve, but I've noticed it on every CRT I've owned so I figured that the curved picture is normal.

fizzleation
01-30-08, 12:43 AM
Nobody had answered my previous question, so I'd just thought I'd post it again. I know A LOT of people here can answer this as several people have complained about this problem. I hear a lot of people complain about "bowed picture" on their Slimfit TV. Now, what exactly is the problem? If your picture is slightly curved, that is normal as ALL CRTs don't have a perfectly straight picture. I have yet to see one. So, can someone tell me exactly what this "bowed picture" is and why it is such a problem?

I'm just asking because my TV may have one, but I just don't notice it. I do notice a slight curve, but I've noticed it on every CRT I've owned so I figured that the curved picture is normal.

First, don't force people into answering your questions. If they aren't answered they aren't, deal with it. But, in all fairness you didn't go on the "BLAH BLAH I HATE SAMSUNG BLAH BLAH BREAK IT BLAH BLAH I NEED TO FEEL IMPORTANT". I hope i don't sound harsh, I just want to make sure no one has unrealistic expectation from people who come here in their free time for entertainment and are not paid.

As far as the bowed picture, I sort of have a feeling you are hitting the nail on the head. If you want a perfectly straight picture, go buy an LCD! They don't cost more just for the sake of costing more.... You aren't crazy, other people are morons... haha.

xraffle
01-30-08, 01:19 AM
First, don't force people into answering your questions. If they aren't answered they aren't, deal with it. But, in all fairness you didn't go on the "BLAH BLAH I HATE SAMSUNG BLAH BLAH BREAK IT BLAH BLAH I NEED TO FEEL IMPORTANT". I hope i don't sound harsh, I just want to make sure no one has unrealistic expectation from people who come here in their free time for entertainment and are not paid.

As far as the bowed picture, I sort of have a feeling you are hitting the nail on the head. If you want a perfectly straight picture, go buy an LCD! They don't cost more just for the sake of costing more.... You aren't crazy, other people are morons... haha.

I was sort of shocked at your tone, but seeing as you're just a new member like me, I'l just ignore it. As you can see, this thread is for discussion of the Slimfit. I felt that bowed picture issue had to be brought up, which is why I just brought it up again. I'm not twisting anyone's arms or anything. If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't post.

And LCDs are rip-offs, FYI. My uncle bought a Sony 32" LCD for $1,100. Boy, oh boy!! I would never spend that kind of money on a TV.

sclawis300
01-30-08, 09:19 AM
Nobody had answered my previous question, so I'd just thought I'd post it again. I know A LOT of people here can answer this as several people have complained about this problem. I hear a lot of people complain about "bowed picture" on their Slimfit TV. Now, what exactly is the problem? If your picture is slightly curved, that is normal as ALL CRTs don't have a perfectly straight picture. I have yet to see one. So, can someone tell me exactly what this "bowed picture" is and why it is such a problem?

I'm just asking because my TV may have one, but I just don't notice it. I do notice a slight curve, but I've noticed it on every CRT I've owned so I figured that the curved picture is normal.

a slight curve in the very edges of the picture might be acceptable, but that is not the problem these tvs have. There is a reason they stopped making the 30" widescreen version. It has too many problems. Buzzing and bowing being the main ones that I have seen. I have been through 3 sets and the bowing is just unacceptable. There is no excuse for paying over 500 for a tv that cant produce a straight picture. Mine has a big hump in the bottom, so when you watch the ticker on CNN or ESPN, it goes up in the middle then almost drops out of the picture on the left side. It almost makes me sick if I focus on the words scrolling across the side. It is not something I should deal with. People should not be required to tons of research in order to feel confident that they are buying a tv that will function properly. The fact of the matter is that Samsung tried to push a technology that just does not work, and they are getting burned on it.

HomeVideoGuy
01-31-08, 02:59 PM
I've looked around, but I haven't seen an actual explanation of how they were able to cut down the depth and still maintain the same resolutions. ie, what do they know that countless other CRT makers don't?


I am no TV technician but knowing what I do know about CRT technology, Samsung obviously did some R&D into modifying the deflection angles of the electron stream hitting the face of the CRT tube. In other words, in order to decrease the depth of a CRT tube of any given size, you must widen the deflection angle of the electron stream. The trick is getting something to work properly. Cutting down the depth of a CRT tube as well as widening it for the widescreen models drastically increases the deflection angle of the given CRT as the electron guns sweep across the phosphor on the face of the tube trying to "paint" the image across the screen.

That is why, in part, that widescreen CRTs have geometry issues; even the highly coveted Sony models. Samsung's Slimfit technology greatly increases the odds of these problems. That, plus it having been reported that Samsung used weak power supplies in these models, would explain the geometry issues, weird colors in the corners of these sets and such. As Ambam suggested, using a power conditioner to supply a weak PS with the cleanest, consistent power possible should help decrease some of these problems. A TV PS has many voltage supplies and would be very difficult to find a replacement PS unless you could track down a Samsung substitute part number PS noted to be better than the one in your set. However, as noted already, it may never be possible to totally eliminate geometry issues on these CRT TVs.

googleme7
01-31-08, 03:08 PM
I am no TV technician but knowing what I do know about CRT technology, Samsung obviously did some R&D into modifying the deflection angles of the electron stream hitting the face of the CRT tube. In other words, in order to decrease the depth of a CRT tube of any given size, you must widen the deflection angle of the electron stream. The trick is getting something to work properly. Cutting down the depth of a CRT tube as well as widening it for the widescreen models drastically increases the deflection angle of the given CRT as the electron guns sweep across the phosphor on the face of the tube trying to "paint" the image across the screen.

That is why, in part, that widescreen CRTs have geometry issues; even the highly coveted Sony models. Samsung's Slimfit technology greatly increases the odds of these problems. That, plus it having been reported that Samsung used weak power supplies in these models, would explain the geometry issues, weird colors in the corners of these sets and such. As Ambam suggested, using a power conditioner to supply a weak PS with the cleanest, consistent power possible should help decrease some of these problems. A TV PS has many voltage supplies and would be very difficult to find a replacement PS unless you could track down a Samsung substitute part number PS noted to be better than the one in your set. However, as noted already, it may never be possible to totally eliminate geometry issues on these CRT TVs.



Thats good information. I actually just read a review prior to the first Slimfit's coming out, and Samsung was calling them CRP (Cathode Ray Panel). I had also read on wikipedia that there are 3 types of CRT, and supposedly one uses a color wheel, I guess like a DLP. So, if they are using a moving wheel, I wonder if that is what the high pitched sounds people are hearing are. Maybe it's like a black & white tube firing onto a color wheel enabling them to space out the stream like you suggested. Weren't the old black & white tube TV's much thinner? Really, didn't the big bulky stuff start showing up with the Trinitron technology? Again, I am just speculating.

HomeVideoGuy
01-31-08, 03:58 PM
Hmm...I haven't read Wikipedia offerings on CRT tubes but the only TV's I know of that used a colorwheel were the experimental CBS color TVs of the early 50's that were dropped in favor of RCA's color system that was officially adopted in 1953 as the NTSC TV system. That and modern DLP sets. AFAIK, the Samsung Slimfits are a conventional CRT. I would guess that the high pitched sounds have something to do with the power supplies and their high voltage supply circuits. Just about all TVs. monitors make some noise, most just not perceptible.

I have a collecting of vintage TVs from the 1940's up and many experimental 1930's CRT tubes. They did widen the deflection angle from the 1930's tubes to the 1940's tubes and continue to widen the deflection angle as TV screens grew larger in order to keep the CRT tubes from getting too deep. I don't know that the B&W tubes, in general, were any shallower than color tubes. Samsung just researched and developed a much shallower CRT tube than the average color tube used by other manufacturers.

HomeVideoGuy
01-31-08, 04:29 PM
Anyone interested may want to read this Wikipedia entry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode_ray_tube

xraffle
01-31-08, 10:57 PM
HomeVideoGuy: Can a weak power supply cause flickering on a TV set?

googleme7
01-31-08, 11:37 PM
HomeVideoGuy: Can a weak power supply cause flickering on a TV set?


A weak power supply can cause just about any problem. I haven't had any experience with it on a TV, but if you are building a computer, everything you add sucks power from the PSU. So for example, if you add a graphics card that calls for 400 Watt minimum PSU, to your PC that only has a 350 Watt, it will probably run, but you might see all kinds of weird ****, like the screen will just go black, framerate drop, stuff like that.

xraffle
02-01-08, 01:05 AM
A weak power supply can cause just about any problem. I haven't had any experience with it on a TV, but if you are building a computer, everything you add sucks power from the PSU. So for example, if you add a graphics card that calls for 400 Watt minimum PSU, to your PC that only has a 350 Watt, it will probably run, but you might see all kinds of weird ****, like the screen will just go black, framerate drop, stuff like that.

Thanks. The reason I was asking is because about a month ago, I mentioned that I was experiencing some flickering on my TV set. Some people are speculating that the cause could possibly be a weak power supply. I'm wondering whether getting a power conditioner would help solve the problem. I checked online for one and they cost around $50. I really don't want to spend that kind of money unless I know for certain that it will solve my problem.

HomeVideoGuy
02-01-08, 09:29 AM
xraffle - I saw your posts and it seems possible to me that it is having problems supplying enough voltage to the picture tube to display the raster. Ambam posted that a power conditioner helped with the weird colors in the corners. But I really could not say a power conditioner would definitely solve your problem. It would definitely supply the PS a more consistent current of electricity than straight city power, but since you are the only one posting about a flickering screen, you may be experiencing problems elsewhere. If you try it, buy one from a store with a return policy. Otherwise, I would at least get a service tech to take a look at your set.

Ambam
02-01-08, 04:49 PM
Xraffle & HomeVidGuy,

I have a very strong hunch that the crucial part of "clean power" for our tvs is constant voltage.

You won't see any improvement with a simple back-up supply (that is, one with only a battery that you'd buy for your computer to avoid losing data during a power outage). The models most places sell that feature voltage regulation (often called AVR or something like that) also have a battery--which you don't really need--but are a step up from battery-only models. Back-up only starts at about $45; plus AVR is generally $80 or so & up.

I'm no hypergeek, but I'm guessing that almost any technician proficient in basic electronic assembly would be able to rig a unit with massive inline capacitors to eliminate any sub-optimal non-uniform electricity for devices as sensitive to dirty power as these Slimfits seem to be. Anybody out there have any schematics to share?

I'll try to get back with specifics on the models & vendors, but unless you are keen on keeping the tv going during a power outage, you can get a simple voltage regulator (no battery backup) for around $45. I've seen voltage-reg-only units online, but not on anybody's shelves.

Also, I cannot attest to voltage regulators solving the problem of weird color splotches in the corners; if I gave anyone that impression, I apologize for it. I became interested in voltage regulation for my tv set because when I turn on lights or a 4-speed ceiling fan I have on the same circuit, if it ain't really quick the variance in voltage causes momentary square-fragment artifacts in the off-the-air image. Curiously, that doesn't seem to be a factor playing DVDs.

HomeVideoGuy
02-01-08, 05:12 PM
I am sorry, Ambam, for misquoting you. It was actually fizzleation that posted positive results with using a power conditioner:

Ok, new owner of a txt-3093, but I'm not asking for help. Instead, I have some advice.
When I brought the set home, I immediately plugged the power cord straight into the wall and I connected my coax straight from the source to the jack on the tv. I immediatly noticed the infamous purple splotches in the lower corners of the screen. I then thought I would attempt running the power and coax through my Monster powercenter HTS 2000 powerstrip. I turned the set on and believe it or not, THE SPLOTCHES WERE GONE! I have tried HD and SD channels, DVDs, XBOX 360 through HDMI and Component. All of the components touching connected to the tv in any way are plugged into the powercenter (even the ethernet going to the 360... excessive I know but I really want this tv to work...). After 3 days of trying to get bowing or splotches, I can't do it. Maybe this is luck, coincidence or solving only a problem with my set and not the great majority, but I thought I would share. Best of luck to all of you and thanks for your help in the past!

xraffle
02-01-08, 10:32 PM
but since you are the only one posting about a flickering screen, you may be experiencing problems elsewhere.

When I described the flickering a month ago, I mentioned that it was just a slight unsteadiness in the picture. If you're not a perfectionist like me, you probably won't even notice it. However, it doesn't seem like many people here even have a TX-T2082. Only one person does, which is Louie, and he says he sees some flickering on some HD channels and PAL sources. So, since he experiences at least some flickering on his 2082 TV as well, this problem could be present on every one of these models.

I ordered this TV online. I haven't actually seen this TV in the store, so I can't check it there. I think this TV is already obsolete, so I can't buy another one to check it out. Even if I could, the hassle is too much. The TV is too heavy to lug back and forth. As for getting a service tech, they're expensive. I might as well just use that money to a buy another TV.

Anyway, thanks for your help. I appreciate it!!

sclawis300
02-02-08, 08:08 PM
Samsung called me back and said that since my tv could not be repaired that they would exchange it for a 32" LCD for $450. This repair is in warranty, but they said I am out of warranty for an exchange. What kind of bull crap are they trying to pull? has anyone else ever had this happen? I am still waiting back for the executive customer relations management to call me back. It is not my fault that they produce a tv that does not work, then they have the nerve to tell me I have to pay more to get one that does, I dont think so. I will post an update when I hear from Samsung in 3-5 business days (i am not holding my breath).

xraffle
02-02-08, 10:51 PM
Samsung called me back and said that since my tv could not be repaired that they would exchange it for a 32" LCD for $450. This repair is in warranty, but they said I am out of warranty for an exchange. What kind of bull crap are they trying to pull? has anyone else ever had this happen? I am still waiting back for the executive customer relations management to call me back. It is not my fault that they produce a tv that does not work, then they have the nerve to tell me I have to pay more to get one that does, I dont think so. I will post an update when I hear from Samsung in 3-5 business days (i am not holding my breath).

I know. Samsung's warranty is a joke. They refuse to come over to my place and look at my set. They said that they don't do home service for a TV less than 27". I find that stupid as my TV is 20" and it's very hard to lug around. Stupid!! After this experience, I vow to never to buy from Samsung again.

WJonathan
02-02-08, 11:33 PM
Samsung called me back and said that since my tv could not be repaired that they would exchange it for a 32" LCD for $450. This repair is in warranty, but they said I am out of warranty for an exchange. What kind of bull crap are they trying to pull? has anyone else ever had this happen? I am still waiting back for the executive customer relations management to call me back. It is not my fault that they produce a tv that does not work, then they have the nerve to tell me I have to pay more to get one that does, I dont think so. I will post an update when I hear from Samsung in 3-5 business days (i am not holding my breath).

The problem is that Samsung isn't making the 30" any more, so they probably don't have one for exchange. If you can negotiate the $450 down a little, that's actually not a bad deal. A 32" Samsung LCD will have pretty solid picture quality and be a heck of a lot more reliable than the Slimfit.

Amiable-Akuma
02-03-08, 09:25 PM
Guys, I have just purchased a brand new 3093 that was the last one a local Best Buy had. It's a miracle they had it, it was on clearance but still expensive at about $466.

Noticed Samsung is discontinuing the Slimfits, especially the widescreen models and that they have been essentially removed from all brick & mortar stores (and to a certain extent even the online pages) of Best Buy and Circuit City. It is becoming impossible to find one, even online - so I suggested those interested start hunting now.

Anyway, after being very impressed by a 2793 - I'm going with this and praying for no issues. I had none with the 2793.

I believe/hope that this 3093 can exist as the perfect solution to great viewing of both SD and HD content - while waiting for the latest flat panel technologies to start finally improving things like black levels, motion blur, excess noise/grain at large screen sizes, etc.

Maybe Samsung will come out with a set that is a combination of the LNT-4071 and the LNT-4081 and sells for a decent price by about Xmas '09.

My 3093 is still boxed up for now but I'll report back.

googleme7
02-03-08, 10:55 PM
Guys, I have just purchased a brand new 3093 that was the last one a local Best Buy had. It's a miracle they had it, it was on clearance but still expensive at about $466.

Noticed Samsung is discontinuing the Slimfits, especially the widescreen models and that they have been essentially removed from all brick & mortar stores (and to a certain extent even the online pages) of Best Buy and Circuit City. It is becoming impossible to find one, even online - so I suggested those interested start hunting now.

Anyway, after being very impressed by a 2793 - I'm going with this and praying for no issues. I had none with the 2793.

I believe/hope that this 3093 can exist as the perfect solution to great viewing of both SD and HD content - while waiting for the latest flat panel technologies to start finally improving things like black levels, motion blur, excess noise/grain at large screen sizes, etc.

Maybe Samsung will come out with a set that is a combination of the LNT-4071 and the LNT-4081 and sells for a decent price by about Xmas '09.

My 3093 is still boxed up for now but I'll report back.




Seriously am I missing something here? Amiable-Akuma you just posted that you acquired a Sony 36XS955, arguably one of the best CRT's ever made. Super Fine Picture Tube, 1080i, for $250!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=987136

At which point you post another thread complaining about SD, and DVD Quality not looking as good as the 36" Sanyo that you just gave away:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=988549

Now, you run out and get a 30" Samsung Slimfit, apparently after reading the countless poor reviews and complaints of these TV's. You not only pay more for it than the 36xs955, but you say you did so because you believe this TV (widescreen mind you) is the best for viewing SD and HD content????

SOMEONE ELSE TELL ME WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE???

googleme7
02-03-08, 11:24 PM
The problem is that Samsung isn't making the 30" any more, so they probably don't have one for exchange. If you can negotiate the $450 down a little, that's actually not a bad deal. A 32" Samsung LCD will have pretty solid picture quality and be a heck of a lot more reliable than the Slimfit.

Dude, how is this a good deal?

Best Buy is selling two 32" Samsung LCD's. 1 is $999, and 1 is $899 (on sale right now for $799).

The 30" Slimfit is $550. If they are offering him the $999 LCD, which is what it sounds like, he is paying FULL RETAIL for that LCD ($550 refund towards the $999).

Those TV's go on sale every other week for at least 10% at Best Buy. So, in the long run, he is basically either paying sticker or paying MORE than he could have if he originally wanted the LCD. Even if they come down on the $450, which they won't, he is still getting screwed in this deal.

And I for one hope he doesn't let them get away with this. He should call the Better Business Bureau. What they are doing here is ridiculous. They clearly know they had problems, that is why they mysteriously pulled it from their website. The fact that they offered you a refund off the price of a new TV proves that they are up to know good. They are willing to take a hit on an LCD for a TV that is out of warranty? I don't think so. They don't have to do **** for you. The TV is out of warranty. No, it sounds like they want to keep as many people quiet about this as possible, because if this comes out in the media, they will take a bigtime PR hit because of their status as #1.

You have the word of the repair man right? Everyone who bought one of these TV's should get a check for the full amount if you ask me.

sclawis300
02-04-08, 10:44 AM
Dude, how is this a good deal?

Best Buy is selling two 32" Samsung LCD's. 1 is $999, and 1 is $899 (on sale right now for $799).

The 30" Slimfit is $550. If they are offering him the $999 LCD, which is what it sounds like, he is paying FULL RETAIL for that LCD ($550 refund towards the $999).

Those TV's go on sale every other week for at least 10% at Best Buy. So, in the long run, he is basically either paying sticker or paying MORE than he could have if he originally wanted the LCD. Even if they come down on the $450, which they won't, he is still getting screwed in this deal.

And I for one hope he doesn't let them get away with this. He should call the Better Business Bureau. What they are doing here is ridiculous. They clearly know they had problems, that is why they mysteriously pulled it from their website. The fact that they offered you a refund off the price of a new TV proves that they are up to know good. They are willing to take a hit on an LCD for a TV that is out of warranty? I don't think so. They don't have to do **** for you. The TV is out of warranty. No, it sounds like they want to keep as many people quiet about this as possible, because if this comes out in the media, they will take a bigtime PR hit because of their status as #1.

You have the word of the repair man right? Everyone who bought one of these TV's should get a check for the full amount if you ask me.

The best part is my tv is IN warranty and they are still trying to make me pay for the new tv. I am still waiting on the call from managment. I will not be paying the $450 and I will be contacting the BBB. What it boils down to is there will either be a free tv on my doorstep by Friday or a check for $667 which would be a full refund of my purchase price. If not, then I will file a law suit and probably seek class action status. I cant wait to read the corporate memos that talk about what a POS this tv and there reasons for pulling it off the production line. IT IS NOT MY FAULT THEY DONT MAKE IT ANYMORE.

xraffle
02-04-08, 12:17 PM
The best part is my tv is IN warranty and they are still trying to make me pay for the new tv. I am still waiting on the call from managment. I will not be paying the $450 and I will be contacting the BBB. What it boils down to is there will either be a free tv on my doorstep by Friday or a check for $667 which would be a full refund of my purchase price. If not, then I will file a law suit and probably seek class action status. I cant wait to read the corporate memos that talk about what a POS this tv and there reasons for pulling it off the production line. IT IS NOT MY FAULT THEY DONT MAKE IT ANYMORE.

These warranties are as good as nothing. And this is why I NEVER pay extra for those stupid "extended" warranties. You end up paying extra for it and even though your product may still be in warranty, nothing can be done if it's obsolete. Those extended warranties are just scams so you pay extra.

sclawis300
02-04-08, 12:35 PM
These warranties are as good as nothing. And this is why I NEVER pay extra for those stupid "extended" warranties. You end up paying extra for it and even though your product may still be in warranty, nothing can be done if it's obsolete. Those extended warranties are just scams so you pay extra.

I would like to note that I did not pay for the warranty. I agree with you on that one. The only warranty worth purchasing is with Apple. I just had a repair done with them and they sent me a survey and asked how their service compared with others. I told them it was like comparing Apple to oranges.

Amiable-Akuma
02-04-08, 12:55 PM
Seriously am I missing something here? Amiable-Akuma you just posted that you acquired a Sony 36XS955, arguably one of the best CRT's ever made. Super Fine Picture Tube, 1080i, for $250!!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=987136

At which point you post another thread complaining about SD, and DVD Quality not looking as good as the 36" Sanyo that you just gave away:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=988549

Now, you run out and get a 30" Samsung Slimfit, apparently after reading the countless poor reviews and complaints of these TV's. You not only pay more for it than the 36xs955, but you say you did so because you believe this TV (widescreen mind you) is the best for viewing SD and HD content????

SOMEONE ELSE TELL ME WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE??? LOL, yeah - sorry, its a long story but it makes sense why I have reached this conclusion/point. I'll explain later, when I get off work.

hakunamutata
02-06-08, 07:28 PM
I know this topic has been covered, but has anyone figured a way to have the audio that is fed from my DVD player through the HDMI, be sent out the optical output connection to my audio receiver ?
Grateful for any assistance.

sclawis300
02-06-08, 07:46 PM
Since I have still not heard back from the Management department of the executive customer relations department, I sent an email to the public relations department informing them that if I dont hear back from someone by friday that I will be filing a complaint with the BBB. For some reason I get the feeling that the only thing that is going to get there attention is the copy of the complaint that I will be filing in Federal Court next week if they have not either refunded my money or given me the exchange for free.

fizzleation
02-08-08, 06:09 PM
sorry to interrupt the "when in doubt sue" discussion, but I just had a quick question.
I know that the picture can be quite sub par when connecting a PC to a CRT television, but I sort of want to try anyway. If I connect my 7800GT using a DVI to HDMI adapter, would I get a decent picture on my slimfit? If not, I am looking for a new video card anyway and might consider a card with HDMI out. Would this lead to a better picture as opposed to using a DVI-HDMI adapter? (I do realize that it will always be a better picture if you don't use more connectors, but would it be significantly better for any other reason?)

Thanks for your suggestions!

Commence legal discussion.

mantiz
02-09-08, 03:07 PM
Just bought a 3093 last night at sears $369.00 to relace my old 19" sanyo in my bedroom. I noticed that the picture clarity is slightly better and cleaner when using HDMI over component anyone else notice the difference?

googleme7
02-09-08, 08:14 PM
sorry to interrupt the "when in doubt sue" discussion, but I just had a quick question.
I know that the picture can be quite sub par when connecting a PC to a CRT television, but I sort of want to try anyway. If I connect my 7800GT using a DVI to HDMI adapter, would I get a decent picture on my slimfit? If not, I am looking for a new video card anyway and might consider a card with HDMI out. Would this lead to a better picture as opposed to using a DVI-HDMI adapter? (I do realize that it will always be a better picture if you don't use more connectors, but would it be significantly better for any other reason?)

Thanks for your suggestions!

Commence legal discussion.


I guess it depends on what you are displaying. If you are talking about video games, I would assume they would look no different on a CRT than an XBOX or Playstation would look on a CRT. I can't imagine why high-def video wouldn't look good as well. I also don't think the DVI-to-HDMI Adapter is going to interfere much with the picture as they are both high bandwidth cables. Not like going Composite to S-Video or something like that.

googleme7
02-09-08, 08:17 PM
Just bought a 3093 last night at sears $369.00 to relace my old 19" sanyo in my bedroom. I noticed that the picture clarity is slightly better and cleaner when using HDMI over component anyone else notice the difference?

That is the reason they came out with DVI and HDMI. There is no compression through those cables.

Acerod24
02-09-08, 10:43 PM
I got my TXR3079 a little over 2 years ago, and during that time it has been plagued with problems, like the edges on the side being blurry, getting purple colored spots on the corners and also flickering from time to time. I put up with it because it wasn’t that frequent.

Recently something happened to the screen, it happen while I was playing my 360, when I notice that I couldn’t see the HUD on the game I went to see what’s up, the screen as it turned out zoomed in, now this isn’t a normal zoomed it also zoomed in the menu of the TV, which is cut of so I can’t even see anything, It’s like it’s just a complete zoom of the screen in general and the setting don’t fix it and also the color looks faded like the brightness has been bumped up, also there are 2 rainbow colored lines going down the screen and the pictures around there is brighter and also the image curves there. Now I tried turning it off for a while and removing anything that looks like metal and it still has that problem, has anyone seen anything like this?

fizzleation
02-09-08, 10:47 PM
I guess it depends on what you are displaying. If you are talking about video games, I would assume they would look no different on a CRT than an XBOX or Playstation would look on a CRT. I can't imagine why high-def video wouldn't look good as well. I also don't think the DVI-to-HDMI Adapter is going to interfere much with the picture as they are both high bandwidth cables. Not like going Composite to S-Video or something like that.

Wow you are quick and thanks for the great explaination! it makes sense now... I have tried connecting a PC to a CRT before using s-video and it looked horrible. But since DVI or hdmi would be all digital and high bandwidth, i'm sure It would look significantly better (Now I feel like a moron for that question...). I think once I finish upgrading my current HTPC I will give it a whirl. I'm going to put a Blu-ray/HD-DVD combo drive in as well as an AMD phenom, and 2 TBs of hdd space. So sexy....
Thanks again!

mantiz
02-09-08, 10:49 PM
That is the reason they came out with DVI and HDMI. There is no compression through those cables.


I realize this but some prefer component over HDMI due to a better picture on certain sets.

fizzleation
02-09-08, 10:55 PM
I realize this but some prefer component over HDMI due to a better picture on certain sets.

I know in the early days of HDMI the iplimentation of the inputs on tv's wasn't very standardized, therefore it often sucked. But I haven't talked to anyone who has purchased in the last 3 or 4 years that doesn't think HDMI is significantly better.
When I purchased the madcatz xbox 360 HDMI conversion kit for my system it was really impressive. One of my friends thought I had cleaned the screen since the last time we had used the xbox... haha.

WJonathan
02-10-08, 09:41 AM
sorry to interrupt the "when in doubt sue" discussion, but I just had a quick question.
I know that the picture can be quite sub par when connecting a PC to a CRT television, but I sort of want to try anyway. If I connect my 7800GT using a DVI to HDMI adapter, would I get a decent picture on my slimfit? If not, I am looking for a new video card anyway and might consider a card with HDMI out. Would this lead to a better picture as opposed to using a DVI-HDMI adapter? (I do realize that it will always be a better picture if you don't use more connectors, but would it be significantly better for any other reason?)

Thanks for your suggestions!

Commence legal discussion.

The Slimfit is one of the worst choices for HTPC, unfortunately. Horizontal resolution is very low, and muddy at the edges. You'll have a hard time reading text in windows. If you keep Windows in 4:3 (manageable in your NVidia settings), text will be legible, but just barely.

merggarvey
02-10-08, 08:01 PM
I have a Samsung SlimFit HDTV 27" (TXS2782). I rarely listen to the TV with any significant volume whatsoever (maybe going up as high as 25 when watching a movie, but often watching at 10-15). After all, almost all my TV watching is at night when the kids are sleeping.

Despite that, I have noticed lately that the speakers sound almost like they are blown. Whenever there are low notes (or even mids for that matter) there seems to be a distinct "buzz" sound to it, almost like the source is overmodulated. I have tried this watching DirecTV as well as watching DVDs, the sound is the same.

This makes it irritating to watch TV to say the least, and makes dialog harder to understand. Has anyone else had this problem? Could it be a setting in on the TV? And if it is in fact blown speakers, where/how do I go about replacing the speakers? I'm pretty competent technically, so replacing the speakers myself is a possibility if it's not ridiculously difficult.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

googleme7
02-10-08, 09:51 PM
I have a Samsung SlimFit HDTV 27" (TXS2782). I rarely listen to the TV with any significant volume whatsoever (maybe going up as high as 25 when watching a movie, but often watching at 10-15). After all, almost all my TV watching is at night when the kids are sleeping.

Despite that, I have noticed lately that the speakers sound almost like they are blown. Whenever there are low notes (or even mids for that matter) there seems to be a distinct "buzz" sound to it, almost like the source is overmodulated. I have tried this watching DirecTV as well as watching DVDs, the sound is the same.

This makes it irritating to watch TV to say the least, and makes dialog harder to understand. Has anyone else had this problem? Could it be a setting in on the TV? And if it is in fact blown speakers, where/how do I go about replacing the speakers? I'm pretty competent technically, so replacing the speakers myself is a possibility if it's not ridiculously difficult.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.



Don't ever attempt to fix anything inside a CRT TV, I don't care how competent you are. You touch the wrong thing and you are most likely gone from this world, that is all I will say about that. Even if it hasn't been plugged in for a long time, it still holds a charge.

Fortunately, your problem is easily solved. Be smart. Go and get a receiver and speakers. Since you only watch with the TV's speakers anyway, you could probably get some cheapo home theater system from Wal-Mart that would cost far less than the repair job it's going to take to fix that TV and you would have a center channel so you could hear the dialog better.

WJonathan
02-10-08, 11:11 PM
I have a Samsung SlimFit HDTV 27" (TXS2782). I rarely listen to the TV with any significant volume whatsoever (maybe going up as high as 25 when watching a movie, but often watching at 10-15). After all, almost all my TV watching is at night when the kids are sleeping.

Despite that, I have noticed lately that the speakers sound almost like they are blown. Whenever there are low notes (or even mids for that matter) there seems to be a distinct "buzz" sound to it, almost like the source is overmodulated. I have tried this watching DirecTV as well as watching DVDs, the sound is the same.

This makes it irritating to watch TV to say the least, and makes dialog harder to understand. Has anyone else had this problem? Could it be a setting in on the TV? And if it is in fact blown speakers, where/how do I go about replacing the speakers? I'm pretty competent technically, so replacing the speakers myself is a possibility if it's not ridiculously difficult.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Do some searches in this thread history, because I'm almost certain other people have complained of this. I'm sorry, I forget the cause of the problem...I'm tempted to say power supply interference...might be remembering incorrectly.

WJonathan
02-10-08, 11:16 PM
Don't ever attempt to fix anything inside a CRT TV, I don't care how competent you are...

Yes, that's great advice as usual. Regardless of how compentent you are, and that goes for you techs out there too, just stop working on CRT TVs. :rolleyes:

sclawis300
02-11-08, 04:23 PM
Samsung called me back today, and they are waiving the "out of warranty" replacement fee. Give me a break Samsung, you try to make it sound like you are doing me a favor. Anyway, they are sending me a LN-T3242H which is retailing at best buy for 809.99. Considering I paid 660 for my 30 slim fit almost a year and a half ago I am pleased. However, it is safe to say when I purchase my next tv (or anything electronic) it will not be a Samsung.

Flyboye2002
02-11-08, 06:24 PM
I'm glad my SlimJim Samshit died a few weeks ago. Although I don't like wasting money, buying this TV was probably the biggest waste of money I ever spent.

I ended up buying a Sony 32" LCD...the picture is awesome...no geometry problems, no transformer buzz, NO HASSLES! I actually got it from a NYC Internet site for $849...which is cheaper than I originally paid for the Samshit 2 years ago locally from Woofer!

I should have done more research before I got this piece of crap...Buyer Beware!!

WJonathan
02-11-08, 08:44 PM
Samsung called me back today, and they are waiving the "out of warranty" replacement fee. Give me a break Samsung, you try to make it sound like you are doing me a favor. Anyway, they are sending me a LN-T3242H which is retailing at best buy for 809.99. Considering I paid 660 for my 30 slim fit almost a year and a half ago I am pleased. However, it is safe to say when I purchase my next tv (or anything electronic) it will not be a Samsung.

That rocks! While I know you're pretty frosted over the Slimfit experience, understand that it's one of the worst products in Samsung's lineup. The vast majority of their electronics are of good quality; they make great LCDs as you can see. And they made good CRTs with the exception of the Slimfit line. You did exceptionally well with the replacement deal. Most manufacturers only give you a prorated (partial) trade value on your used equipment. Whether or not that's fair I'm not arguing, just saying to get a replacement valued higher than the original's retail...you made out very well indeed. Happy TVing.

fizzleation
02-11-08, 10:58 PM
I have a Samsung SlimFit HDTV 27" (TXS2782). I rarely listen to the TV with any significant volume whatsoever (maybe going up as high as 25 when watching a movie, but often watching at 10-15). After all, almost all my TV watching is at night when the kids are sleeping.

Despite that, I have noticed lately that the speakers sound almost like they are blown. Whenever there are low notes (or even mids for that matter) there seems to be a distinct "buzz" sound to it, almost like the source is overmodulated. I have tried this watching DirecTV as well as watching DVDs, the sound is the same.

This makes it irritating to watch TV to say the least, and makes dialog harder to understand. Has anyone else had this problem? Could it be a setting in on the TV? And if it is in fact blown speakers, where/how do I go about replacing the speakers? I'm pretty competent technically, so replacing the speakers myself is a possibility if it's not ridiculously difficult.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

It seems like the only suggestion that has actually worked it was one i suggested 5 or 6 pages back. I was messaged by a few members that said it worked wonders.

When I first plugged my TV in, I plugged it straight into the wall. I immediately noticed the buzzing from the speakers and purple-ish splotches in the corners. I decided before I boxed it up, I would try plugging everything into my monster powercenter. It looked better once the power was plugged in but there was still a very slight hissing from the speakers when watching tv or using my 360. I tried plugging EVERYTHING into the powercenter. That means power, coaxial, and even the ethernet to my xbox 360. After doing this, there was zero splotching, no terrible, migraine triggering squeal coming from the speakers and the picture looked significantly better. I also have to split my coax at the wall, so I tried a monster 2 GHZ splitter and a 900mhz splitter I found somewhere in my basement. With the 900mhz the picture looked "acceptable" but the internet was rather slow. With the 2ghz the picture looked a lot better and I gained 1.8 mb/sec on speedtest.

I say it everytime but I will say it again, I realize I sound like a monster sales rep, but their stuff has always been great for me. And when you can see a noticeable difference it makes it worth the money.

So in summary: Buy a monster powercenter, and CONNECT EVERY CABLE IN YOUR SYSTEM TO IT. I would also suggest the monster video cables, especially their HDMI M series cables. They are incredible.

Good luck!
Samuel

fizzleation
02-11-08, 11:42 PM
The Slimfit is one of the worst choices for HTPC, unfortunately. Horizontal resolution is very low, and muddy at the edges. You'll have a hard time reading text in windows. If you keep Windows in 4:3 (manageable in your NVidia settings), text will be legible, but just barely.

Actually, when I connected my pc through DVI (using a dvi to hdmi adapter) it looked really good. Text looks suprisingly acceptable (I'm really not using it for writing papers or spreadsheets, if I was this would be difficult after a while). For web browsing, and desktop apps it works quite well. At first the picture was terrible, but i just had to mess around in the nvidia control panel for 10 minutes or so until it looked good. Call of Duty 4 looks great, as does video.

Thanks for the words of caution though. Also I appreciate that you don't give into random attacks and unreasonable demands of a company (i.e. give me an lcd that is twice the price of my crt, or else I will start crying and say I will sue you! Even though we both know that none of those inbreds have the balls, financial means or brain cell count to do anything). Your civility and effort to make the slimfit experience better for all us owners as opposed to pointless pissing and moans rants is an example I wish more would follow.

Regards,
Samuel

Foxhound199
02-12-08, 12:45 PM
Does anyone have this tv connected to a PS3, or any other source connected through HDMI or component cables? I am getting really agitating posterization every time I use these connections. Faces (especially in low lighting) have terrible blotchy skin tone, and the overall picture simply looks fake. I'm curious if this is a general problem with this type of set, or if there is something particularly wrong with my tv set. If anyone has this setup, and has gotten satisfactory picture results, I'd appreciate any information as to how. Thanks.

krisgoforth
02-17-08, 12:15 AM
I have the TXT3093 and recently the chassis went out on the TV and Samsung had to send out a repair guy to fix the TV. It is fixed now but ever since the chassis was replaced in the TV, the geometry is terribly off. It was great when it came out of the box but now it sucks and I am having the same issue that almost EVERY OTHER PERSON has complained about. I have a repair ticket filed with Samsung to send out the repair guy again but I don't have alot of faith in him. I found the Service Code on here and messed with the deflection settings some and it looks better but isn't perfect. Can anyone post what their settings are for Deflection and DHC 1 and DHC 2 (I think that is the other two after deflection.) I am confident that I can fix it but I just need to know what these were at out of the box. Thanks for any feedback or help in this matter.

lotusson
02-17-08, 08:45 AM
I purchased my 3093 when they first came out and thus far no problems. I'm looking to buy an upconverting dvd player and needed some information as to which HDMI cable I should buy. I'm looking on monoprice.com (http://monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240) for a cable but I don't know what to choose. I don't know much about HDMI so I want to make sure the cable is compatible with my TV while also not paying a huge price for it. Thanks for any help.

lotusson
02-17-08, 08:52 AM
Silly question, but is it better to have the tv plugged into the wall or through a surge protector?

slepr
02-17-08, 02:01 PM
After searching in this thread I did not find the answer I was looking for. I have my 2782H hooked up to cable (TimeWarner basic, i.e. no external box) and OTA antenna. When viewing STD def via the cable hookup, the picture fills the screen and does the expected distortions when switching between std, zoom1 and 2 and 16:9. When I switch over to my OTA antenna for Digital Broadcasts my picture is rather small. Info listed for the Digital channel shows 1080i, 16:9, and I set my P.Size to 16:9. The picture when set this way is not 16:9, it is smaller with black bars both above and below (expected) but also on each side (unexpected). Picture is 22" diagonally and measures 17.75" x 13" or 1.365 ratio. The ratio should be 1.78 if it was 16:9.

This was a new in the box set from BB purchased early last year (just found this thread recently :o ). I only went through standard automatic setup enabling both cable and OTA input and setting all channels.

Is there any scanning adjustment or is this the geometry problem that is mentioned in this thread. I should have more than a 22" diag picture with 16:9 and not have side black bars (2.75" wide).

Any help would be appreciated.

ree21
02-17-08, 06:32 PM
well i messed up my tv it's a txt2793h. yea i did this before i found this forum. any one have the factory deflection numbers for this tv. i searched but no luck. help please

sns2015
02-17-08, 06:45 PM
After searching in this thread I did not find the answer I was looking for. I have my 2782H hooked up to cable (TimeWarner basic, i.e. no external box) and OTA antenna. When viewing STD def via the cable hookup, the picture fills the screen and does the expected distortions when switching between std, zoom1 and 2 and 16:9. When I switch over to my OTA antenna for Digital Broadcasts my picture is rather small. Info listed for the Digital channel shows 1080i, 16:9, and I set my P.Size to 16:9. The picture when set this way is not 16:9, it is smaller with black bars both above and below (expected) but also on each side (unexpected). Picture is 22" diagonally and measures 17.75" x 13" or 1.365 ratio. The ratio should be 1.78 if it was 16:9.

This was a new in the box set from BB purchased early last year (just found this thread recently :o ). I only went through standard automatic setup enabling both cable and OTA input and setting all channels.

Is there any scanning adjustment or is this the geometry problem that is mentioned in this thread. I should have more than a 22" diag picture with 16:9 and not have side black bars (2.75" wide).

Any help would be appreciated.
The reason you're probably getting the black bars on the side is that what you are watching OTA is not actually HD. Most OTA broadcasters send out their signal in the 16:9 HD aspect ratio and so have to pillarbox any 4:3 footage to properly fit that frame. If it was a true HD broadcast, then the full 16:9 image would be filled. It doesn't sound like a problem with the TV itself, but rather the broadcast you are receiving.

A quick Wikipedia search for "pillarbox" will explain this issue further.

giper
02-17-08, 09:29 PM
Where can I find a 30" Slim Fit HD TV? My parent's have one and it is perfect for what I need, but BB and CC no longer sell them? Has Samsung stopped producing these TV's?

slepr
02-18-08, 11:19 AM
The reason you're probably getting the black bars on the side is that what you are watching OTA is not actually HD. Most OTA broadcasters send out their signal in the 16:9 HD aspect ratio and so have to pillarbox any 4:3 footage to properly fit that frame. If it was a true HD broadcast, then the full 16:9 image would be filled. It doesn't sound like a problem with the TV itself, but rather the broadcast you are receiving.

A quick Wikipedia search for "pillarbox" will explain this issue further.


Thank you so much for the response. It just threw me since the channel info said 16:9 and the TV was in 16:9 mode. Just figured it would fill the screen with the proper image ratio with only black bars above and below. It is OTA from the local stations so I guess I am stuck with a much smaller picture for OTA broadcasts. I have Directv coming out next week with an HD setup so that should hopefully solve the problem.

sclawis300
02-18-08, 01:32 PM
The tvs are no longer being made. This is because the technology was not sufficient to project the picture over such a wide screen with a short tube. even if you do find one, dont get it (just my two cents).

For those people looking for factory deflection settings, they wont help. The settings are going to be unique to your tv. Other peoples settings will not help you much. Also, write down everything before you change it because it is easy to screw up and it can happen faster than you think.

krisgoforth
02-18-08, 11:42 PM
I went to my local Sears store where they are still selling these TVs and went into the Service Menu there. I took pictures of all the settings and sent them from my phone to my email. Got back home and changed my TV settings to those in the TV that I took pictures of at Sears. It is pretty much fixed. There are a few geometry things like the top of the screen is a little off and so is the bottom but I think I can correct those. Just wanted to let people know that it did make it a lot better. If anyone needs the settings, just let me know and I will post them.

xraffle
02-19-08, 09:57 PM
I went to my local Sears store where they are still selling these TVs and went into the Service Menu there. I took pictures of all the settings and sent them from my phone to my email. Got back home and changed my TV settings to those in the TV that I took pictures of at Sears. It is pretty much fixed. There are a few geometry things like the top of the screen is a little off and so is the bottom but I think I can correct those. Just wanted to let people know that it did make it a lot better. If anyone needs the settings, just let me know and I will post them.

Like sclawis said, each set has its own unique settings, even though they're the same model number. This is why it's important to write down the settings before changing anything.

awfpack
02-20-08, 10:09 AM
The crack is on the front just to the left of the power button. It starts very small in the middle of the plastic and has run up to the black part the outlines the screen and it is cracking there as well. I have extended warranty with CC and some rude lady at CC customer relations told me it was just cosmetic and not covered. I went to my CC store and the manager said it may be overheating or some sort of heat issue. Any ideas?
Thanks
Robby

Ambam
02-20-08, 02:42 PM
Silly question, but is it better to have the tv plugged into the wall or through a surge protector?

I bought an APC voltage regulator (which has surge protection, too--but no battery backup) and it has cured the macroblocking I experienced with my 3092. So this might help, since the Slimfits' power supplies seem to be questionable.

Bottom-of-the-line battery backups are not true power conditioners, since they do not have voltage regulation (which is included in more expensive backups).

I got the regulator for less than 50 bucks online through Provantage. Fast delivery, good packaging.

Ambam
02-20-08, 02:46 PM
Where can I find a 30" Slim Fit HD TV? My parent's have one and it is perfect for what I need, but BB and CC no longer sell them? Has Samsung stopped producing these TV's?

My Slimfit 3092 works great, but if you read through this thread, you'll see that some people despise theirs.

I see them on the shelves at some Best Buys and Sears (the 3093, mostly), but you may have to shop online if you really want a 3092. It looks as if their production has been discontinued, so they're probably mostly in warehouses now.

sclawis300
02-20-08, 04:20 PM
I just had my LN-T3242H delivered today and they took away the crap fit. I could not be happier. Not only does it not buzz, but the picture is straight and the screen does not overscan when being used as a monitor with my macbook. AWESOME.

xraffle
02-21-08, 11:56 PM
Just have a quick question for all you Slimfit owners. Did any of you have to lower the color down on your TV set? Because on my TX-T2082, the colors were set at 50, which is the default setting, but I found it too high. Not only were the colors way too rich, but there was significant amount of blooming and bleeding in the picture. So I had to lower my color to 35 in Component mode and 43 in AV mode and now it's fine.

Anyone else had that problem? I was just curious as people told me that the richer the color, the better it is. While I do agree that rich color is nice, too rich can be bad as well.

scionracing
02-22-08, 12:36 AM
The angle of the picture on my TV is slightly off and bugging me. Does anyone know of the proper setting to adjust TILT in the SERVICE MENU, not the standard menu? It will only allow me to go to 7,-7 in the standard menu and it is not enough.

If there is not a TILT option in the service menu, then this was a huge oversight by Samsung since the electron gun is so easily repositioned.

Ambam
02-22-08, 05:54 PM
Just have a quick question for all you Slimfit owners. Did any of you have to lower the color down on your TV set? Because on my TX-T2082, the colors were set at 50, which is the default setting, but I found it too high. Not only were the colors way too rich, but there was significant amount of blooming and bleeding in the picture. So I had to lower my color to 35 in Component mode and 43 in AV mode and now it's fine.

Anyone else had that problem? I was just curious as people told me that the richer the color, the better it is. While I do agree that rich color is nice, too rich can be bad as well.

I adjusted my settings, too. I think that in the Picture menu, I've got mine at 92/82/72 for the top 3, and a click or two toward green from red. My set came from the store with the top one at 100.

It's hard to find an OTA test pattern, but when I saw one on my set, it looked to be spot-on. The small bars ranging from black to gray are subtle but important indicators.

xraffle
02-22-08, 09:34 PM
I adjusted my settings, too. I think that in the Picture menu, I've got mine at 92/82/72 for the top 3, and a click or two toward green from red. My set came from the store with the top one at 100.

It's hard to find an OTA test pattern, but when I saw one on my set, it looked to be spot-on. The small bars ranging from black to gray are subtle but important indicators.

Thanks. I'm glad it's not just me that felt this way. I don't know why the factory settings are like that.

Ambam
02-25-08, 01:39 PM
Thanks. I'm glad it's not just me that felt this way. I don't know why the factory settings are like that.

I think that just about everything you'll see in a store is aimed at "Wow" factor.

Back when the stores stocked a lot of CRTs, they had special programming (generally nature scenes or music videos with helicopter shots of landscapes & so forth) piped in that avoided showing any straight lines, because unless the tv set had an Invar mask & good quality-control, lines would wave all over the place (especially toward the edges). I once succeeded in tuning in a station on some of those that had a prison movie with lots of cell blocks, and the grids were rarely rectilinear. That was back when brands like ProScans were plentiful: Pretty packaging but not much in the way of a well-focused image.

They seem to amp up the color in stores because they want to catch your eye. With all the different models & the various distractions there, "more is more" seems to be the rule. How many people actually have the chance to sit down at a store and watch a tv set for a long time in a setting similar to their homes? The quiet & comfortable setups are mostly reserved for those 5000-dollar jobs.

I have noticed that in most showrooms now, CRTs are tough to find at all, and of course those big plasmas & LCDs are impressive because of their sheer size, all right. . .but the resolution is often lousy.

xraffle
02-25-08, 08:25 PM
I remember long time ago when we used to buy TVs and they were perfectly calibrated from the factory. Now, when you buy a TV, you have to spend hours trying to get the set to display accurate colors. It's crazy.

ecreels
03-08-08, 10:43 AM
I bought this TV a couple months ago and am very pleased with it, except for one thing. When I try to watch HD cable broadcasts, I have to watch it in the TV's 16:9 mode, which is fine, considering the screen is 4:3. The picture looks the way it should look.

Problem is, it never stays this way. After watching a program for exactly half an hour, the TV reverts back to normal mode by itself, resulting in the "squeezed" picture. I can set it into 16:9 mode again easily enough with the P SIZE button, but it's annoying to do it every 30 minutes, particularly if you're watching something long like "Lawrence of Arabia."

Now here's the strange part: If I adjust the settings of my cable box, and I have the TV in the "Normal" mode, the picture is fine in in 480i or 480p. However, when I change the resolution to 720p or 1080i, the picture "squeezes" and I have to use the 16:9 mode in P.Size to get the picture to appear normal.

Bottom line: How can I watch an HD cable broadcast without having to constantly reset the 16:9 mode?

Thanks in advannce.

xraffle
03-08-08, 01:56 PM
This is because your TV is in "Shop Mode."

skyline987
03-09-08, 06:16 PM
I've had a Samsung TXT3093 since November and ive been dealing with curved edges and color distortion since then. I finally found a decent test picture and loaded it onto a thumbdrive and used my xbox 360 (component 1) to adjust the geometry. My 360 looks fine for the most part after the tv's warmed up for about 15 min but Im still having geometry issues with my Satellite STB on S-Video and my Wii on A/V1. Are the geometry settings for each input independent? also the right side of my screen has a red tint when viewing a white image. does anybody know a setting to adjust this?
Thanks
John

Defenestrate211
03-12-08, 05:40 PM
Ahoy hoy all. So I've had the samsung slimfit 3093-WH since September, and it's a pretty good set. I do have some minor discoloration in the top left of the screen, but it goes away after the sets been on for 10 minutes. I get the high pitched whistle now and then, and on the left side of the screen when the black bar is present, I do see a tiny bit of geometry problems. Unnoticable in full 16:9. So overall I guess maybe I got lucky, or don't notice the problems you all have posted. But onto my main reason for posting this.

As almost anyway whose into HD knows, the amount of standard def 4:3 programming outnumbers HD stuff by at least three to one. Which often leaves me switching to 4:3 channels, leaving me with the aforementioned black cropping bars on the side of the screen. If I feel it necessary I use my Samsung or Comcast remote and hit the picture size button to fit the picture to full screen when i switch between HD and non-HD content. My question is, with the 3093, is there anyway to set the TV up so it AUTOMATICALLY senses when programming is 16:9 or not, and will change on its own?

For a while I had given up on this, but then a few pages back I think someone mentioned it. My comcast cable box goes into the first HDMI slot. My buddy has a Sony 34KBR9060 Trinitron (the lucky bastard, got it for 600 bucks) and his set handles this automatically. But me and my Samsung have to do it manually. Any suggestions? Something I'm missing?

One last bit of opinion on the set. As of right now, CRT is the best way to go in terms of HD. I don't think I'm the only one who sees just how awful standard def pictures look on LCD and Plasma. The CRT sets handle it leagues better. And the simple fact that HD programming, while getting better, doesn't come close to making up the majority of broadcasts, makes me wonder how people with LCD and Plasma can DEAL with it. My plan is to wait another year or two, until CRT's are totally out of production, and have an "accident" occur to my set, which is under a 4 year BB warranty, and get it replaced with a nice 32 inch LCD for probably nothing. By this time HD programming will hopefully run the gambit of stuff on TV.

grimbeaver
03-12-08, 11:33 PM
As almost anyway whose into HD knows, the amount of standard def 4:3 programming outnumbers HD stuff by at least three to one. Which often leaves me switching to 4:3 channels, leaving me with the aforementioned black cropping bars on the side of the screen. If I feel it necessary I use my Samsung or Comcast remote and hit the picture size button to fit the picture to full screen when i switch between HD and non-HD content. My question is, with the 3093, is there anyway to set the TV up so it AUTOMATICALLY senses when programming is 16:9 or not, and will change on its own?

For a while I had given up on this, but then a few pages back I think someone mentioned it. My comcast cable box goes into the first HDMI slot. My buddy has a Sony 34KBR9060 Trinitron (the lucky bastard, got it for 600 bucks) and his set handles this automatically. But me and my Samsung have to do it manually. Any suggestions? Something I'm missing?

If you go into the service menu for the comcast cable box (power off and hit menu right away) and set the "4:3 Override" mode to "stretch" it will automatically stretch all 4:3 to 16:9. That's what I've done.

IIIunityIII
03-13-08, 04:45 PM
So the other day I was an idiot and changed the resolution on my Verizon FiOS set top box to 720p. My set top box is connected via an HDMI cable to my HDMI1 port on the back of my TV. All of a sudden I got a "Not Supported Mode" in the middle of my screen, and now I can't get it to go away! Here's what I've tried so far: I reset my set top box back to 1080i (hooked it up w/ component cables and changed it under the component2 setting on my TV), and I also switched the HDMI cable. Now all I get is HD channels. Every thing worked great before I made that stupid mistake. Does anybody have any other ideas on what I can try?? Thanks in advance for all replies.

usmc3020
03-14-08, 07:39 PM
i have tx-s3082wh slimfit that stop working no red light or power just a faint ticking sound when i turn it on it is about 13 months old. dose anyone know what may be the problem?

KoRn
03-14-08, 10:24 PM
Power supply is dead.

i have tx-s3082wh slimfit that stop working no red light or power just a faint ticking sound when i turn it on it is about 13 months old. dose anyone know what may be the problem?

scionracing
03-15-08, 11:24 AM
Power supply is dead.

So what are your options now if the power supply is dead? Is the TV completely done for or can this be repaired at a reasonable price?

KoRn
03-16-08, 07:43 PM
Get a local person to install a new power supply for you. I don't know how much the part would run through Samsung.

So what are your options now if the power supply is dead? Is the TV completely done for or can this be repaired at a reasonable price?

xraffle
03-17-08, 12:40 PM
I would recommend just buy a new set as hiring someone to install a new power supply would cost you just as much.

Iverson8351
03-18-08, 04:52 AM
I have had my Samsung TXS-3082WHX now for just over a year and now since yesterday it started to get blurry about 3" from the outside running verticaly with a purple discoloration in the upper R/H and lower L/H corners.
I can't return this or even take it too a tech due to the fact of where I live. Please Help me someone.
I called Samsung and they told me that it was the picture tube. I called a service tech that is was a magnet that was next to my TV. I don't see how that is possible since nothing has changed as to what is next to my TV.
I have read a few of the threads but know one has been able to say what is exactly wrong.
Please give me some ideas.

xraffle
03-18-08, 09:53 PM
The only noticeable flickering on the screen of my 2082 happens in one of these situations:
* HD 16:9 channel in wide view
* anything with very thin lines horizontially
* viewing anything from a PAL source

I never noticed any flickering in transitions between bright and dark scenes, but I do notice a faint rainbow band in the upper part of the screen during some dark scenes.

As for fixing it, it has a 480i screen resolution, so I just assumed the flickering due to the interlaced resolution.
There is an deinterlace option in the hidden system menu somewhere (power off the tv, push menu 1 8 2 power on the remote). Check to see if it's turned on.

About 2 months ago, I complained about flickering on my TXT2082. The flickering is just some minor unsteadiness in the picture. Now, I hate to bring up a topic that was already discussed long time ago, but I just visited Best Buy today and saw that exact TV on display and the same problem was on that TV too. It was harder to notice because Best Buy is obviously a lot brighter lit than my living room and also, I kind of got used to flickering after owning the set for 5 months now. I had to watch at the store for a while to finally catch the flickering. So, it seems to me that this problem is on every TXT2082. Whether it's a power supply problem, I don't know. But I have no idea why this particular Slimfit model is suffering from this kind of issue.

ewetherbee
03-26-08, 07:55 AM
I have a Samsung Slimfit 27", the TXS2782 Model. Could someone please be able to give to the deflection numbers. Had a service guy try to fix it, he never wrote down the defult numbers and now i have an unwatchable television. I know how to access the service menu I would just like to know what the numbers should be at. I know nothing about this and i am in need of great help. Thank You. You can e-mail me the numbers
wetherbee21@comcast.net

sposerina
03-26-08, 09:40 AM
I was wondering if anybody knew how to disable the speakers on these sets.

I have color distortion problems towards the edges of the screen and after reading some threads linking the problem to improper shielding of the side speakers I thought this might be a possible solution for me.

I'm not too technically knowledgeable about audio hardware but I'm thinking its the magnetic field produced by the speakers thats causing the distortion and if I find a way to cut the power to the speakers the magnetic field will disappear. Please let me know if there any faults in these assumptions

I've already had a Samsung tech out to degauss the screen but after a few days the problem returned. I figure I'm on my own to resolve this issue and I guess if I can't find a way to resolve this issue I'm going to have to buy a degaussing coil myself.

Thanks

Paeload
03-26-08, 11:39 PM
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My 2 year old Samsung TXR3079WHX/XAA just went crazy! Now when I turn on the TV it has no picture and starts with a SUPER BRIGHT line across the middle and then gets bigger and flashes wildly and extremely bright.
What do you think might be the problem?
This never has had any previous problems.

sposerina
03-27-08, 05:33 PM
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My 2 year old Samsung TXR3079WHX/XAA just went crazy!



In my nonprofessional opinion I would say the picture tube is shot

Paeload
03-27-08, 10:10 PM
I think you may be right. But I'm no "Pro". So is it just a "paperweight" now? Worth fixing or junk it?
I was suprised to find out after reading numerous "posts" that this unit was not the most reliable TV. I have enjoyed 2+ years without any hassles, and then this. Could it have been a result of being "On" all the time as a result of being shut-off through the DVR (8300HDC)?

xraffle
03-27-08, 10:37 PM
I think you may be right. But I'm no "Pro". So is it just a "paperweight" now? Worth fixing or junk it?
I was suprised to find out after reading numerous "posts" that this unit was not the most reliable TV. I have enjoyed 2+ years without any hassles, and then this. Could it have been a result of being "On" all the time as a result of being shut-off through the DVR (8300HDC)?

Nah, the problem is that these Slimfits are not made to last. I've heard so many people complain how their Slimfit didn't last long. Unfortunately, I heard these complaints after I bought my TXT2082. So, I'm awaiting the day when my TV would stop working.

Paeload
03-27-08, 10:57 PM
Nah, the problem is that these Slimfits are not made to last. I've heard so many people complain how their Slimfit didn't last long. Unfortunately, I heard these complaints after I bought my TXT2082. So, I'm awaiting the day when my TV would stop working.

I believe I will be shopping for a new TV this weekend. Any suggestions? I want to keep under 42" and my living room has a lot of windows, so glare can be a problem. DLP? Sony? With so many choices I'm not sure what to do.

sposerina
03-28-08, 10:45 AM
I believe I will be shopping for a new TV this weekend. Any suggestions? I want to keep under 42" and my living room has a lot of windows, so glare can be a problem. DLP? Sony? With so many choices I'm not sure what to do.

I always find it helpful to establish some guidelines before setting out on a big purchase. There are way too many choices out their and without some rules of thumb the choice soon becomes overwhelming. You said you want to keep it under 42", next I would determine a price range. I did a quick search on newegg.com using a price range of 750-1000 and came up with 15 tvs. I found this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889022068
for just under $1000 and seems to have gotten a lot of positive reviews

Then make sure to read some reviews (so you don't windup with another slimfitesque tv and go for it. I know this may seem like pretty generic advice but I'm hoping it still might be helpful :)

Remember if you only want the best then your probably gonna be disappointed

virtual_rick
04-02-08, 12:45 PM
I've had this tv for a while now, since November 07 to be exact, overall its a decent tv, but whenever i'm in HDMI either 1 or 2 the left and right sides of the screen are severely blurred, the text within those areas are unreadable, I have a tech coming out sat. to look at it, and its under warranty although the 30 exchange is up, so if they can't fix this will I have the option for an LCD as what was done or would I have to fight them for it?

as in this pic you can see how it starts to clear as it gets toward the center:
http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd301/ricky_lafountain/PS3GUI.jpg and mainly I see this kind of blur while in HDMI i don't notice it so much when watching normal TV.

solideliquid
04-02-08, 09:57 PM
My slimfit does the same thing. I can't stand how you can barely read text like in the picture above displaying the PS3 Online Store.

I really want an LCD now. :(

virtual_rick
04-03-08, 02:45 PM
Was afraid someone would say that, i'm guessing thats not fixable, and I don't know if they'll replace it with an LCD since its what i'm gonna guess they're gonna call "normal" for CRT HD tv's like this one.

gregt777
04-03-08, 03:51 PM
I remember long time ago when we used to buy TVs and they were perfectly calibrated from the factory. Now, when you buy a TV, you have to spend hours trying to get the set to display accurate colors. It's crazy.

Yes, things are definitely different today. For most people, to spend 150 - 200.00 for an ISF calibration, after spending 1,000 - 2000.00 on is display, is not in the budget.

solideliquid
04-03-08, 09:35 PM
What would you say would provide the better gaming experience? PS3 hooked up via HDMI to 22" LCD (computer) monitor at 720P viewing 2-3 feet away? Or the 30" Samsung slimfit playing PS3 games at 1080i viewing 5-6 feet away?

virtual_rick
04-04-08, 10:27 AM
What would you say would provide the better gaming experience? PS3 hooked up via HDMI to 22" LCD (computer) monitor at 720P viewing 2-3 feet away? Or the 30" Samsung slimfit playing PS3 games at 1080i viewing 5-6 feet away?


That image above is on my 30" Samsung, and i'm using HDMI cables as well although i'm on 720P which is better for gaming than 1080i which is better for blu-ray movies, as you can see its blurred on the egdes of the screen on both teh left and right sides, for gaming its not so bad, just when reading text in those areas.

sposerina
04-04-08, 02:51 PM
That image above is on my 30" Samsung, and i'm using HDMI cables as well although i'm on 720P which is better for gaming than 1080i

I also hate how the resolution drops off towards the edges of the screen but I'm a bit confused by your comment. Are you saying the picture is actually better when you set the output mode to 720p. I thought when you do this the tv has to upscale to 1080i and any type of image conversion is usually bad for quality. Correct me if I'm wrong but the slimfit is a interlaced display so it will never be able to display items in progressive scan regardless of the resolution.

hoffo
04-04-08, 03:25 PM
Correct. a 1080i set is only capable of displaying interlaced video with the exception of 480p. So setting your game system to 720p doesn't do anything for you. You'd be better off setting it at 1080i if possible because your set will just upscale to 1080i anyway since no 1080i CRT is capable of displaying a progressive scan 720p image. Also 1080i input is the best quality and highest resolution that a 1080i native set will handle so by sending a 720p signal you are taking a slightly lower resolution and upscaling it to 1080i since the set can't handle 720p directly.

solideliquid
04-04-08, 07:19 PM
He is displaying a PS3 there in the picture. Since most games run in 720p, is the Slimfit degrading the PQ by converting from 720p to 1080i?


Also, what's better 30" 1080i SlimFit or 22" 720p LCD computer monitor for PQ?

hoffo
04-04-08, 11:19 PM
Yes it would be degrading the picture in the sense that with 720p you have a slightly lower resolution than 1080i so that 720p input is automatically being converted to 1080i. Basically think of it as taking a lower resolution image and enlarging it and you have the basic idea as to the scaling change. As far as which has a better PQ well the 720p native lcd will actually handle the 720p and show it progressively rather than converting to interlaced as the CRT set is doing. I'd say the LCD would look better given the focus issues and other issues the Samsung CRTs seem to have. The CRT should deliver better blacks and better overall contrast though than the LCD. CRT should be better suited to gaming though since it is not prone to motion blurring and response time issues that are common with LCD tech.

xraffle
04-05-08, 03:59 PM
xraffle - I saw your posts and it seems possible to me that it is having problems supplying enough voltage to the picture tube to display the raster. Ambam posted that a power conditioner helped with the weird colors in the corners. But I really could not say a power conditioner would definitely solve your problem. It would definitely supply the PS a more consistent current of electricity than straight city power, but since you are the only one posting about a flickering screen, you may be experiencing problems elsewhere. If you try it, buy one from a store with a return policy. Otherwise, I would at least get a service tech to take a look at your set.

Ok, I know you told this to me two months ago, but I finally bought a power conditioner and it didn't seem to do much good. The flickering is still there. It's really odd and I'm at the point where I just gave up now. If the power conditioner didn't help, then maybe the flickering is not due to a weak power supply. I could indeed be experiencing problems elsewhere. What my issue could be, I don't have a clue. Since only one other person on this site has a TXT2082, I don't think I'll ever find a resolution.

sposerina
04-07-08, 10:47 AM
Ok, I know you told this to me two months ago, but I finally bought a power conditioner and it didn't seem to do much good.

Sorry I missed your previous posts so maybe your already answered this question but is your TV no longer under warranty? The flickering sounds like an issue THEY SHOULD fix. I've already had my share of difficulties dealing with Samsung so I know where your coming from. I'm at the point where I think we should all take our slimfits and pile them out front of some samsung office and force them to deal with the issue.

xraffle
04-07-08, 12:33 PM
Sorry I missed your previous posts so maybe your already answered this question but is your TV no longer under warranty? The flickering sounds like an issue THEY SHOULD fix. I've already had my share of difficulties dealing with Samsung so I know where your coming from. I'm at the point where I think we should all take our slimfits and pile them out front of some samsung office and force them to deal with the issue.

It is under warranty, but Samsung wants me to lug that heavy set over to their repair place, where they'll keep the set for two weeks. Then, I'll have to lug it back home. They don't do in home repairs for TV sets less than 27". Sorry, but I refuse to do that. It's a big hassle.

virtual_rick
04-07-08, 01:25 PM
so even though when i press info on the remote and it shows 720p its not really progressive because CRTs can't produce progressive scan? isn't that false advertising on their end then since it states the TV supports: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i? so its either SD or 1080i regardless of the settings?

WJonathan
04-07-08, 02:31 PM
so even though when i press info on the remote and it shows 720p its not really progressive because CRTs can't produce progressive scan? isn't that false advertising on their end then since it states the TV supports: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i? so its either SD or 1080i regardless of the settings?

No because that display only tells you the input source, not the TV's output.

hoffo
04-07-08, 03:27 PM
Well CRT HD sets can accept 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i but they can only really display 480i, 480p and 1080i. 720p is just upscaled to 1080i automatically.

will1983
04-07-08, 05:04 PM
I am having the same problem with my slimfit 30" with text on psn store ! nothing is readable (and things is getting worse on both side) tech said that my tube is wrong, my tv will have a new tube soon but i am sceptical about this. Is it possible to get a clear readable text on ps3 with this kind of tv at 1080i or 720p? 720p seem to help but i am suspecting a hi dot pitch on this kind of tv that are unnaceptable.... ITS NOT REAL HDTV ! my father 1080p 42" viewsonic have a 2x better image on blue ray !

sposerina
04-08-08, 11:36 AM
I've been wondering:

The dot pitch of these screens should be the same no matter where the measurement is taken on the screen.

I'm well aware that the resolution drops off towards the edges of the display so does that mean that the electron gun is just not hitting as many of the wholes in the plate as the angle increases. If this is a true then I guess this is similar to dead pixels.

will1983
04-08-08, 01:03 PM
Is my psn store will be clear and sharp as a normal crt computer screen with a new tube ? anyone can reassure me ? i never seen a sharp text on this tv (computer at 1080i is unreadable too) ive just call samshit and they told me that is supposed to be clear as a crt computer screen

if not i will need to get a new tv ! i want to run my ps3 in 1080i

thanks for the help !

my model is txs-3064w

WJonathan
04-08-08, 06:39 PM
Is my psn store will be clear and sharp as a normal crt computer screen with a new tube ? anyone can reassure me ? i never seen a sharp text on this tv (computer at 1080i is unreadable too) ive just call samshit and they told me that is supposed to be clear as a crt computer screen

if not i will need to get a new tv ! i want to run my ps3 in 1080i

thanks for the help !

my model is txs-3064w

I don't know why they'd say that, the customer service rep must not know any better. Widescreen Slimfits have poor clarity, particularly at the left and right edges. It's due to the nature of the severe angle electron beams. I don't know that replacing the tube will help. They're just not designed for reading text.

will1983
04-09-08, 01:24 PM
Text is unreadable enverywere (really unclear in xmb) and worse on side

solideliquid
04-09-08, 01:35 PM
http://i31.tinypic.com/2r7vyg8.jpg

Here is my SlimFit showing a webpage on the PS3 Web browser.

KyoDash
04-09-08, 03:43 PM
I believe that the TX-S3082 was multi-scan 31-45khz, and could do 480p/720p and 1080i natively, and that the TX-3083 converted everything into 1080i.

The UK version of the 3082 (the 409/419) can do 480p/720p and 1080i native. 720p is displayed as a progressive picture on those sets. The US one I'm not 100% sure, as usually the UK sets can scan at more frequencies than US sets.

A few people have said to me that the 3082 does display 720p progressively, and that the 3083 does not, instead converting it to 1080i. 720p looks more flickery on the 3083 than on the 3082 I'm told. Something to do with the BluJay chip sorting out the geometry issues, easier to only calibrate for one resolution. Hense the choice for 1080i native on the latest model.

sposerina
04-11-08, 09:13 AM
I'm thinking I'm just gonna buy my own degaussing coil and degauss the set from time to time to get rid of the color distortion on the sides. Anybody use one before and can attest to how easier they are to use? Their not too expensive so I'm thinking this is my best bet to get a picture without distorted color.

ObiJ71
04-11-08, 10:12 AM
I have a Samsung TX-S3082WH

One, where can i get the Lion pattern to align the display?

and second last night while unscrewing the coaxial cable for the HDTV antenna the terminal post brake off from the TV Set, it came off clean.
I thought it was one of those you screw in and was thinking on getting a set of pliers and get the tail part of from the back and screw in a new terminal post but it looks like is part of a module and needs to be either replace or solder back on.

Can anyone tell me the name or number of that part?
My TV set is out of warranty, and never haver any issues with it, last night while reading this forum I found a PDF on how to access the service menu off the TV but can't find the Lion pattern with the numbers on the side to align the picture.


Any help will be appreciated.

virtual_rick
04-11-08, 12:20 PM
I'm really disapointed in my SlimFit and once i get some money up ill sell it and get my
40" 1080p lcd tv, but i'm not sure which brand is best, although i am aware of what to look for in terms of contrast ratio and refresh speeds. Seems the blurring of the text and such is the normal for this tv and thats not good enough, and i don't like that it forces 1080i and advertises 720p and not able to truly display it.

xraffle
04-11-08, 12:37 PM
I'm actually surprised some people are disappointed in their Slimfits. Most people are usually happy with them which is what encouraged me to buy mine. But I am actually one of the few who is disappointed. I was thinking of selling mine on Ebay but these Slimfits are filled with a lot of flaws that the buyer might give me a hard time and demand his/her money back.

hoffo
04-11-08, 10:30 PM
I'm thinking I'm just gonna buy my own degaussing coil and degauss the set from time to time to get rid of the color distortion on the sides. Anybody use one before and can attest to how easier they are to use? Their not too expensive so I'm thinking this is my best bet to get a picture without distorted color.

Don't have the answer to that but i'd like to hear someones response as well.

krum
04-20-08, 08:19 PM
Hello, this is my first post here. I've bought a Samsung SlimFit CL29Z50 (lucky me...) I guess you are not aware of that model cause it is only in Argentina. I had the same problems as everybody: geometry, plus a yellow stain when a bright picture is shown for more than a minute. My problem is that I have called samsung for a technician and it's going to come this week, but I have make the mistake of enter service menu, and NOT write down the original values. I was able to fix most of the geometry, but a LOT of values in the "Deflection" menu are now in negative numbers. Is OK for the numbers to be negative? will the technician realize that I have entered in service menu ?, Can I find the factory settings anywhere?. :oThank you

Random06
04-25-08, 11:16 PM
Lines? prob.

Hmm I have noticed a prob with my slimfit, in the nw corner of the screen ive noticed transparent, almost clear wavy lines they are somewhat diagonal and move back and forth up there. I have no idea what is causing it. I dont even notice it all the time, but when i do its annoying. Is it a prob with the tv? Can I fix it? Does it sound like outside interference? Thanks for any advice.

BoSoxMole
04-29-08, 08:08 PM
think I am WAYYY off here, but I am trying this anyway.

I have a TX-R3079WH and I was bored and pulled out the instruction manual. Anyway, I noticed that I have a ATSC tuner. So doesn't that mean I could just plug in the cable, do a little setting stuff, and get me some HDTV?

I also noticed that when I auto tune the channels, "Signal Strength" is gray. So I can't check that. Why is that?

Or am I way off?

Can I plug my cable in and get them that way? Or is that what a QAM tuner is for?

I mean, I already get HD thru my cable box. I'm just curious?

xraffle
04-29-08, 10:01 PM
An ATSC tuner is the tuner you'll need to get over-the-air HD channels. Most people today have them on their TVs but never use them.

BoSoxMole
05-01-08, 08:15 PM
But can I get HD channels just from putting in the cable to the TV? Or will I HAVE to get an antenna?

xraffle
05-01-08, 10:05 PM
With an ATSC tuner, you need antenna for over-the-air HD channels.

With a QAM tuner, all you need is the cable to plug into the TV.

If you have an HD cable box already, you do not any of these tuners.

louie826
05-06-08, 01:07 PM
To get the digital channels over-the-air, you have to connect it to an antenna. No TV can receive over-the-air signals by itself.

You will not get every HD cable channel for free if you just connect the cable line directly to the TV. Most of the channels except for some local channels will be encrypted and unviewable unless they go though a cable company's rented digital box.

"Signal strength" is only for the digital channels.

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I think my suspicions of there existing different versions of the 20 inch TXT2082 is holding true.
I played around with a display model at an electronics store and noticed three differences on the display model than the TV that I have:
*only one AV input available in menu instead of two
*the icons in the menu are colored. My TV has the icons in only blue and grey.
*when the TV is shut off, the screen has two sliding black "doors" from the left and right closing the screen. The TV that I have goes total black immediately after it's shut off.

skyline987
05-06-08, 02:03 PM
and so my battle begins. I bought a 3093 tv in november and was able to adjust it so the bowing wasnt that bad but now it has discoloration in every corner. I put the first service call in february and was never contacted by the technician, put another call in yesterday assigned to a different company and they dont want to deal with it because their too far away (14 miles). Called today and now have been assigned another service company. Hopefully the third times a charm.

xraffle
05-06-08, 09:05 PM
To get the digital channels over-the-air, you
I think my suspicions of there existing different versions of the 20 inch TXT2082 is holding true.
I played around with a display model at an electronics store and noticed three differences on the display model than the TV that I have:
*only one AV input available in menu instead of two
*the icons in the menu are colored. My TV has the icons in only blue and grey.
*when the TV is shut off, the screen has two sliding black "doors" from the left and right closing the screen. The TV that I have goes total black immediately after it's shut off.

Yup, that display model at the electronic store is the same version I have. My TV has one AV selection, colored menu icons, and the sliding black doors when turning on and off. The one big advantage you have on your version is that you have 2 AV selections. I have two inputs on my TV (one on front and one on back), but they can't be used at the same time. How rediculous!

DarkNessBear
05-07-08, 06:47 PM
Hey, I have the TXR30 and the screen Deflection is really bad, the sides of a 4:3 image are wavy. Is there a way to switch it back to its default settings? I messed it up.

Please!

Thanks. Whoever can help me fix this problem i'll send em 10 bucks.

georgeo75
05-08-08, 01:44 AM
I have my pc connected to my samsung slimfit via dvi-hdmi. Can't get the picture on the screen completely. Downloaded "powerstrip". not sure what timings to use. Any help on what resolution or timing I need to make this work would be great.

Jagarus
05-11-08, 06:04 AM
I own a Samsung SlimFit TV TXS3082WHX / XAA. I do have the common problems that everyone has been talking about on this forum with the high pitch noise and the discoloration in the top right hand side. The problem I have and haven't been able to find a solution is my remote will not work with my tv, in fact no remote will work with my tv. Since my T.V. was a display model it didn't come with a remote, so i order on for this tv online. If someone could help me that would be great. Thanks.

louie826
05-12-08, 07:13 PM
Yup, that display model at the electronic store is the same version I have. My TV has one AV selection, colored menu icons, and the sliding black doors when turning on and off. The one big advantage you have on your version is that you have 2 AV selections. I have two inputs on my TV (one on front and one on back), but they can't be used at the same time. How rediculous!

Try this:
Do the service mode code (power off, Mute 1 8 2, power on) go to Option 1 or Options, then "AV JACK" and change the option to "2RCA+DVD".

xraffle
05-12-08, 07:41 PM
Try this:
Do the service mode code (power off, Mute 1 8 2, power on) go to Option 1 or Options, then "AV JACK" and change the option to "2RCA+DVD".

I already tried that. There's nothing. The options are: 1RCA+DVD, 1RCA, 1RCA+S, and 1RCA+S+DVD. That's all.

LeoO
05-18-08, 07:46 PM
Our TX 3082 (30"), after being a champ for over a year, began showing some color distortion (for example during the all-red logo screen for 70s Warner Brothers movies, there would be some orange and pink), rainbow effects in black scenes, and the very beginning of some color bleed in the upper left corner.

We had a four year warranty, so no problem. Best Buy sent a tech to check it out, and agreed that the tube needed swapping out (after he first checked on his laptop to see if it would be cost-effective).

The replacement tube was FAR worse. No more upper left color bleed, but the same color distortion and rainbow effect problems, PLUS serious bowing, especially vertical bowing when showing squarescreen (4:3) content.

We complained and had our $720 given back in the form of store credit toward a new TV. We picked a Sony Bravia KDL-32XBR6, a 1080p 32" TV.

Samsung's TV are definitely the prettiest hardware. Our Slimfit looked gorgeous just sitting with the power off, and we were sorely tempted to get another Samsung. But the Sony's Xcross Media Bar interface blew us away and we thought we'd step up a notch in the brand name.

zillion29
05-24-08, 08:40 PM
Okay. So my 3078 has had a new tube, new master control board, a 2nd new master control board, and FOUR separate service tickets with Samsung. It still has all the warped geometry that we know and love plus the annoying screetching cathode noises that pets and owners are equally fond of.
But here, my friends, is the light at the end of the tunnel. After lots of wasted time on the phone with those shady scumbags, Samsung is picking up my giant paperweight on Friday and replacing it free-of-charge with an upgraded 1080p 32'' LCD. So let this be a lesson to anyone who got ****ed in the ass with a SlimFit - there is light at the end of the tunnel. DO NOT GIVE UP and let Samsung railroad you. They sold you an inconceivably poorly manufactured piece of junk and they OWE you a freaking suitable replacement!!! Fight the power!

The Lizard King
06-02-08, 11:49 AM
I bought a TX-T3092WH from Best Buy online for $540 shipped in May 2007. It's been problem-free for that period of time (knock on wood!). The bottom ESPN ticker is horizontally straight. When using the "info" button of my satellite provider's remote, I can see a very slight bowing upward at the top of the screen, but otherwise, while watching regular programming, it's unnoticeable.

I've read all 90 pages of this thread, and all I can say is that I'm 100% satisfied with my set, and I must be one of the really lucky ones, as I have only played with the picture settings utilizing my DVE HD-DVD Combo disc played on my Oppo DV-970HD upconverting DVD player.

TLK :cool:

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Defenestrate211
06-09-08, 10:31 AM
I've got to agree with the previous poster. Bought the 3093WH in October and really couldn't be happier with it. I have noticed a few SLIGHT issues, such as:

-Some discoloration in the upper left hand corner when the set first comes on. As the tube warms up, it fades.

-The slightest of bows is visible when the TV is in 4:3 mode (with the vertical black cropping bars. But since everything I view is either in 1080i, 720p, or 480p widescreen thanks to a set up I figured out with my comcast receiver, this is no longer an issue

-Some text in videogames is a bit blurry at times.

But aside from that, I honestly have to say my set looks better than almost any I have seen, with the exception of my buddies Sony KBR34960. But he even tells me that my set looks great.

One of the biggest pluses for me is the fact that the CRT sets can still display a very good looking SD broadcast. I might be the only one, but SD picture on LCD's and Plasmas looks vomit-inducing to me. Add this to the fact that out of 300+ channels, only around 20 are actually in HD, and I really feel like getting a CRT is a no brainer.

Aside from that, even the HD picture I feel looks better than the Plasmas and LCD's. My uncle has a 46 inch samsung he got at the beginning of 08, and I can't help but notice the amount of artifacting that occurs in HD broadcasts, especially a faster moving picture (sports, action movies, etc). Whenever I am watching his TV, I'm silently shocked at how superior my HD picture looks compares to his, and he payed almost 4x as much!

While I love my TV - HD looks great, SD looks as good as it does on my old 27 inch tube, xbox360 looks great, etc, I have to say that as far as High Definition technology as a whole is considered, I feel its kind of a ruse. With the number of HD sets flying off the shelves, the actual amount of HD programming available is appaling (With comcast in NJ, like I said, less than 10% of the channels are in high def - and HBO on Demand no longer has a high definition option).

On top of what I feel is a large lack of content for the amount of money people are spending on this technology (and don't get me started on all the upcharges to get any HD channels in the first place), I honestly feel bad for the majority of viewers, an how uninformed/misinformed they are about High Def. The days of simply turning on the TV are gone. Now viewers are bombarded with terms like 1080i, 720p, digital signal, contrast ratios, aspect ratios, HDMI, etc etc etc. Before I bought my TV, I did upwards of 6 months of research into HD, and even after all of that, I still felt a bit overwhelmed by it (And as a 22 year old who grew up on computers and video games, I'm mildly tech saavy). I can't help but feel bad for the 50 year old who walks into Best Buy, thinking hes going to come home with some sort of super-television. I actually think a large portion of HD owners are, inside, disappointed and confused with the technology as well. But due to the amount of money one must pay for it, few will actually admit it.

evophile
06-11-08, 01:17 PM
Hi guys, I have a TX-T3093WH.

I live in a pretty dusty apartment. I was wondering whats the best way to clean the screen of dust without damaging it?

Everything I see is for cleaning LCDs these days.

I have these electostatic dusting cloths I used for other stuff around the house, but I'm not sure how well it will work for the tv, if if the cloth could scratch it up.

Thanks guys!

xraffle
06-11-08, 04:46 PM
Hi guys, I have a TX-T3093WH.

I live in a pretty dusty apartment. I was wondering whats the best way to clean the screen of dust without damaging it?

Everything I see is for cleaning LCDs these days.

I have these electostatic dusting cloths I used for other stuff around the house, but I'm not sure how well it will work for the tv, if if the cloth could scratch it up.

Thanks guys!

Just use a clean rag.

The Lizard King
06-13-08, 11:22 AM
Hi guys, I have a TX-T3093WH.

I live in a pretty dusty apartment. I was wondering whats the best way to clean the screen of dust without damaging it?
I use windex and a clean paper towel.

TLK :cool:

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xraffle
06-13-08, 08:24 PM
I use windex and a clean paper towel.

Use a rag instead because there are fluffs on paper towels.

bmeyveci
06-14-08, 06:25 AM
hi everyone

maybe that question is answered before but i couldnt read all the 90 pages. sorry for that.

i have a ws32z409 slimfit tv.
anyone know that it is possible to connect my pc to hdmi port from a dvi port ?

and if it is possible, how is the quality of image in 720p mkv files.

thanks for your answers.

bitpowered
06-26-08, 02:14 PM
The link to the samsung download center referenced earlier in the thread no longer works.

I'm trying to work out some vertical positioning and geometry issues.

Thanks

sclawis300
06-29-08, 04:00 PM
I finally got my new tv and they replaced my slimfit with at 32" LCD. It did take a couple of tries and they even tried to charge me since I was getting a "better" technology. My favorite part was when I said, "but I am in my warranty" and she said, "that is just for repair, not replacement." Maybe in Korea or where ever they make these things but not in the US. So I complained and complained and then finally had to drop the, I am going to file a lawsuit line which actually worked. 2 days later, new tv. in the words of Jimmy V. Don't give up, don't ever give up.

Ikabob
07-01-08, 11:51 AM
Lizard King...did they call a penalty on that play...head butt??? Should have been a helmit to helmit head butt.

tmc2k1
07-02-08, 09:54 PM
Recently my Samsung 3082WH CRT HDTV has been making a very high pitched noise when on. Its similar to the noise you get when your ears are ringing. I love this set but this noise is making it unbearable! Any way to fix this? Thanks!

The Lizard King
07-03-08, 07:04 PM
Lizard King...did they call a penalty on that play...head butt??? Should have been a helmit to helmit head butt.
No, they didn't. Pat Cowan (the baby-blue QB) received a concussion on that hit.

TLK :cool:

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solideliquid
07-05-08, 11:48 PM
Recently my Samsung 3082WH CRT HDTV has been making a very high pitched noise when on. Its similar to the noise you get when your ears are ringing. I love this set but this noise is making it unbearable! Any way to fix this? Thanks!


I had the same problem with my set. The repair guys came over and said it was most likely a small coil that was vibrating and making a high pitched sound. They basically covered the coil with silicone and that fixed the problem for six months or so then it started again but I was out of warranty :(.

xraffle
07-06-08, 12:08 AM
That high pitched noise problem occurs with my 18 year old Sony 27" Trinitron. It only happens once in a while, but the darn thing is 18 years old, so I'm lucky that it's still working. It's been doing it for years. I just ignore the noise since it doesn't seem to affect the TVs performance.

tmc2k1
07-06-08, 03:59 AM
Damn. Im out of warranty as well. Very disapointing because im very happy with the tv, but this noise is unbearable and most likely going to upgrade to a 40 or 46" Samsung 1080p. I hate to do it but this noise is driving me insane :(

zrdb
07-06-08, 11:00 AM
It sounds like it could be the flyback transformer-I had an older crt that made the same high pitched noise-I replaced the transformer-noise gone.

alsmez
07-09-08, 08:34 AM
Hey all, just looking for a little guidance - I have the Slimfit 3079. It worked great for 2.5 years, then all of a sudden, it died. The picture comes up as a horizontal hourglass, zooms in and out, and then the TV shuts itself off after about 1 minute. I took it to a repair shop, and the guy said it needs a new distribution board - the part plus labor will be around $350. Worth it? I'm kind of thinking that with all the problems everyone has described, I'm probably better off chucking the damn thing and buying a new flat screen. Thoughts? Has anyone had this problem fixed before?

WJonathan
07-09-08, 09:30 AM
Hey all, just looking for a little guidance - I have the Slimfit 3079. It worked great for 2.5 years, then all of a sudden, it died. The picture comes up as a horizontal hourglass, zooms in and out, and then the TV shuts itself off after about 1 minute. I took it to a repair shop, and the guy said it needs a new distribution board - the part plus labor will be around $350. Worth it? I'm kind of thinking that with all the problems everyone has described, I'm probably better off chucking the damn thing and buying a new flat screen. Thoughts? Has anyone had this problem fixed before?

I wouldn't spend that on a Slimfit. To me, the picture qualtiy wouldn't justify more than a $100-$200 repair. You could find a used Sony CRT with better PQ for around the cost of the board replacement.

alsmez
07-09-08, 01:01 PM
Whoops, just reread my notes from the call with the repair guy - it's the deflection board that needs to be replaced. Someone else in this thread (post#1975) had the same problem and was quoted about the same price for the repair, so it seems that the repair guy isn't just trying to jack me. Ugh! I think I'm just going to buy an LCD and be done with it. Good riddance, Samsung!

D-6500
07-15-08, 11:07 AM
Being that this is a "Slim" fit CRT tube, I could imagine how difficult it would be to get the beam deflection & shadow masking just right on this concept. It's sort of like expecting to get a focused sun ray at 60 degrees north latitude in December!

I'druther stick with a bulky tube HD (XBR-960 & up) if I were going that route and know I'd get a workable picture out of the carton.

xraffle
07-15-08, 04:08 PM
I'druther stick with a bulky tube HD (XBR-960 & up) if I were going that route and know I'd get a workable picture out of the carton.

You know what I'd rather do, save up a little more and get an LCD instead. LCD HDTVs are really dropping now, so it shouldn't be that expensive now. I feel like taking my Slimfit, throwing it out the window and getting an LCD. Oh, how I regret buying that piece of junk. Never in my life have I dealt with so many issues on a CRT.

xraffle
08-12-08, 02:07 PM
What the heck happen to the last bunch of posts that were here? And just when I was getting somewhere with the Slimfit issues, the mods had to delete those posts without any explanations. I really don't see how they broke any rules. We were discussing the Slimfit in a very nice, friendly manner. :confused::confused::confused:

louie826
08-12-08, 05:49 PM
This happened : http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/announcement.php?f=167&a=123

xraffle
08-12-08, 06:42 PM
Oh that's ridiculous.

squallsan
08-12-08, 08:54 PM
Well had a Best Buy tech come out today, took one look at the slimfit and said yeah that thing is a POS. I have never been able to properly fix one of those. The geo problems are insane as well random degauss issues. He is going to try and replace the board to go through the paces, but in the end I'm just gonna have to ge a new set. Are Samsungs LCD's any better?

xraffle
08-12-08, 09:40 PM
Well had a Best Buy tech come out today, took one look at the slimfit and said yeah that thing is a POS. I have never been able to properly fix one of those. The geo problems are insane as well random degauss issues. He is going to try and replace the board to go through the paces, but in the end I'm just gonna have to ge a new set. Are Samsungs LCD's any better?

Ok, let's see if we can recap and continue discussing what we we were talking about before since our posts got lost. Before, you mentioned something about a strobing light on your Slimfit. Months ago, I was complaining about flickering on my Slimfit set, but very few people had anything to saying about it. Since you mentioned about a strobing light on your set, I'm assuming you're experiencing some flickering or flashing of some sort.

squallsan
08-13-08, 10:22 PM
Ok, let's see if we can recap and continue discussing what we we were talking about before since our posts got lost. Before, you mentioned something about a strobing light on your Slimfit. Months ago, I was complaining about flickering on my Slimfit set, but very few people had anything to saying about it. Since you mentioned about a strobing light on your set, I'm assuming you're experiencing some flickering or flashing of some sort.

Yeah it is flickering but only seems to happen on the upper right side. It really shows through during light colored scenes. I'm waiting for Samsung to send me a new board, and then have the BB tech come and install it. He told me he really doesn't think it's going to work but company policy pretty much demands it. So we'll see what happens. I'm thinking of replacing it with this:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8742596&type=product&id=1202648740213

xraffle
08-14-08, 11:23 AM
I'm thinking of replacing it with this:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1202648740213

Nice TV! You know, I was looking into buying that exact TV. It's a nice size, it's not as expensive as other HDTVs, and the reviews are excellent. If you have the money, I say go for it.

But with me, I will probably stick with my Slimfit until it dies, if it ever does. I paid for that things, so might as well get some use out of it. Even though I'm experiencing issues here and there, it doesn't look like it would die anytime soon. Besides, by the time my Slimfit dies, HDTVs will be dirt cheap and it would be worth the wait. At least for me, anyway.

googleme7
08-14-08, 12:28 PM
Nice TV! You know, I was looking into buying that exact TV. It's a nice size, it's not as expensive as other HDTVs, and the reviews are excellent. If you have the money, I say go for it.

But with me, I will probably stick with my Slimfit until it dies, if it ever does. I paid for that things, so might as well get some use out of it. Even though I'm experiencing issues here and there, it doesn't look like it would die anytime soon. Besides, by the time my Slimfit dies, HDTVs will be dirt cheap and it would be worth the wait. At least for me, anyway.


Yeah, the 32A450 got really good reviews at CNET. Samsung should give him a credit if he is going to get that tv. Just for the simple ridiculous fact that he is going to have to get a BLU-RAY player just to match the quality of a cheaper priced CRT on DVD.

It's a crying shame that companies like Sony got out of the CRT biz and then Samsung cashes in on those potential customers with a cheap ass product that they know is cheap, that is why they made it disappear from their website. Then they charge over 50% more for a decent LCD at the same size. If Samsung doesn't want to give a credit to buy one of their LCD's, I say screw em, buy one from somebody else.

squallsan
08-14-08, 02:23 PM
Yeah, the 32A450 got really good reviews at CNET. Samsung should give him a credit if he is going to get that tv. Just for the simple ridiculous fact that he is going to have to get a BLU-RAY player just to match the quality of a cheaper priced CRT on DVD.

It's a crying shame that companies like Sony got out of the CRT biz and then Samsung cashes in on those potential customers with a cheap ass product that they know is cheap, that is why they made it disappear from their website. Then they charge over 50% more for a decent LCD at the same size. If Samsung doesn't want to give a credit to buy one of their LCD's, I say screw em, buy one from somebody else.

Isn't that the truth. I have an HD DVD player and while the format is now dead :( I still can't wait to see Constantine and Beawulf on a proper HD set. I was actually going to go with the M series Sony BRAVIA but have heard of tons of clouding and ghosting issues. I can't believe I went from a Trinitron to that junky Samsung Slimfit. But really I doubt the slifit will day anytime soon, I just am not happy with all the issues. It produces a nice image but with MANY flaws. I really do wish that Sony was still making HD CRT's but at the time when I bought my slimfit they were IMPOSSIBLE to find.

PS: I wish Samsung would give me credit, but alas they won't, instead they sold me a hell of a lemon.

xraffle
08-14-08, 03:04 PM
But really I doubt the slifit will day anytime soon, I just am not happy with all the issues. It produces a nice image but with MANY flaws. I really do wish that Sony was still making HD CRT's but at the time when I bought my slimfit they were IMPOSSIBLE to find.

PS: I wish Samsung would give me credit, but alas they won't, instead they sold me a hell of a lemon.

You're in the same position as me. I want to replace my Slimfit with an LCD, but the question is: What do I do with my Slimfit? Throwing it out would be like throwing hard-earned money in the trash. And if you sell it on Ebay or someplace else, we could get in trouble for selling a lemon. If I knew what to do with my Slimfit, there would've been an LCD sitting in my house at this moment.

xraffle
08-14-08, 03:08 PM
If Samsung doesn't want to give a credit to buy one of their LCD's, I say screw em, buy one from somebody else.

I agree. Samsung screwed a lot of people with their Slimfits. But the problem is, what other good HDTV brand is there. I heard Samsung was the best. And based on what I see at the store, the Samsung LCDs look the best on display. And in my opinion, they even look better than the Sony Bravias. It looks like we're forced to give Samsung another chance, even though they don't deserve one.

googleme7
08-14-08, 03:49 PM
I agree. Samsung screwed a lot of people with their Slimfits. But the problem is, what other good HDTV brand is there. I heard Samsung was the best. And based on what I see at the store, the Samsung LCDs look the best on display. And in my opinion, they even look better than the Sony Bravias. It looks like we're forced to give Samsung another chance, even though they don't deserve one.


Well, actually there is the 32" Panasonic LCD that got a higher rating than the Sony and only slightly lower than the Samsung. Realistically the only thing the Samsung does better is be a computer monitor:

http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/panasonic-viera-tc-32lx85/4505-6482_7-32903787.html

My guess is that they will continue to come down in price and I have seen other reviews on this site stating that they liked the 1080p Panasonic 32" over the Sony XBR and Samsung 5 or 6 series.

And if you can fit it in your house, the Panasonic 42" 720p models can often be seen on sale for under $1,000 and maybe they will come down a bit next year or better yet make a 32-37" Plasma. I would still rather have one of those than any of the sub $1,000 LCD's.

squallsan
08-15-08, 11:15 AM
Just got a call this morning from Best Buy, and they just received the board. The Tech is coming back next week to install it, I doubt it's gonna fix the overscan or anything else but hey what the hell.

Michael Barrett
08-15-08, 03:52 PM
It seems like the slimfits are inconsistant. That being said, I bought the TX-3082 in August of 2006. Very, very sexy looking unit and the connectivity was second to none, esp for a sub $1000 unit.

Naturally at first, I fell in love with it simply because im a dork, and new electronics excite me haha.

Now after initial reactions, I did notice some of the problems others mentions. The geometric distortion (although not terrible), some color issues, etc.

It was extreme, but apparent. After a little bit of research, I'd come acrossed the service menu. I spent a few hours tuning and adjusting, and finally got it to where I wanted. Two years later, there is little to no distortion, overscan is at a minimal, and the tubes are still in great shape.

I don't know if I got lucky, but my 3082 is awesome. I have it hooked to an Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300HD (Time Warner), using HDMI. SD quality is very good for an HD set, then thats the nature of the CRT which is what I wanted.

HD Quality I honestly have little complaints about. After calibration, it's one of the better HD pictures I've seen. It's not quite as sharp in resolution as some of the other sets, (or the awesome XBR series) however it make's up for having an extremely accurate and natural picture. Color is very film like, and features excellent black levels. Contrast levels are also very good on high bit rate HD viewings (as low-bit HD/SD compresses everything..blacks look more gray and grainy) HD-DVD/Blu-ray looks freaking outstanding on this set.

I honestly love this TV, and call me old fashioned...but I love CRT's. Granted higher end plasma/LCD's are finally reaching/bettering the overall PQ of CRT's and thats a good thing.

I don't think the slimfit is cheap, I think it's just the design as a whole that makes it difficult, LG's TV has the same issues (maybe not as wide), and honestly I don't think the LG's PQ is quite as nice all thing considered and working.

Thats my weird little review

squallsan
08-17-08, 12:45 PM
It seems like the slimfits are inconsistant. That being said, I bought the TX-3082 in August of 2006. Very, very sexy looking unit and the connectivity was second to none, esp for a sub $1000 unit.

Naturally at first, I fell in love with it simply because im a dork, and new electronics excite me haha.

Now after initial reactions, I did notice some of the problems others mentions. The geometric distortion (although not terrible), some color issues, etc.

It was extreme, but apparent. After a little bit of research, I'd come acrossed the service menu. I spent a few hours tuning and adjusting, and finally got it to where I wanted. Two years later, there is little to no distortion, overscan is at a minimal, and the tubes are still in great shape.

I don't know if I got lucky, but my 3082 is awesome. I have it hooked to an Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300HD (Time Warner), using HDMI. SD quality is very good for an HD set, then thats the nature of the CRT which is what I wanted.

HD Quality I honestly have little complaints about. After calibration, it's one of the better HD pictures I've seen. It's not quite as sharp in resolution as some of the other sets, (or the awesome XBR series) however it make's up for having an extremely accurate and natural picture. Color is very film like, and features excellent black levels. Contrast levels are also very good on high bit rate HD viewings (as low-bit HD/SD compresses everything..blacks look more gray and grainy) HD-DVD/Blu-ray looks freaking outstanding on this set.

I honestly love this TV, and call me old fashioned...but I love CRT's. Granted higher end plasma/LCD's are finally reaching/bettering the overall PQ of CRT's and thats a good thing.

I don't think the slimfit is cheap, I think it's just the design as a whole that makes it difficult, LG's TV has the same issues (maybe not as wide), and honestly I don't think the LG's PQ is quite as nice all thing considered and working.

Thats my weird little review

So how well were you able to overcome the Overscan issue? I'm missing 2 inches from the bottom and about half an inch on the left hand side. Is that fixable with a new board and some tweaking? I just wonder because the image when it's good IS GOOD on this set. Just these other problems are really turning me off.

xraffle
08-18-08, 04:55 PM
So how well were you able to overcome the Overscan issue? I'm missing 2 inches from the bottom and about half an inch on the left hand side. Is that fixable with a new board and some tweaking? I just wonder because the image when it's good IS GOOD on this set. Just these other problems are really turning me off.

On CRTs, it's normal to have parts of the picture get cut off. That's just the way CRTs are. I have yet to see a CRT TV that displays a FULL picture.

On my TV, the only complaint I have is the strobing light. All other issues are minor and can be overlooked. But flickering is totally unforgiveable.

squallsan
08-18-08, 06:38 PM
How bad is the flickering on your set? Mine isn't that bad but not that good either. The horizontal scan lines that flutter across the screen during light scenes is worse.

xraffle
08-18-08, 07:14 PM
How bad is the flickering on your set? Mine isn't that bad but not that good either. The horizontal scan lines that flutter across the screen during light scenes is worse.

It's some slight unsteadiness in the picture. It's very noticeable when a picture cuts from a very bright scene to a very dark one. That's the best way I can describe it. What's funny is that all the issues that are present on my Slimfit I've seen on the display model on two Best Buy stores. So, I know that my TV isn't the only one with this problem. Yet, I seem to be the only one that notices it. Maybe I have a special eyesight that can detect the slower refresh rate. I don't know.

Ambam
08-19-08, 10:21 AM
Haven't checked this forum in a while, but I can say that I'm quite pleased with my Slimfit. People who come to my house say that in terms of sharpness and color fidelity, it's the highest quality picture they have seen on any television.

Based on what I have read here, I guess I was lucky with my set. Then again, if people plunk down their money and they are unhappy, they're much more likely to sound off about it than they would be to say "Mine is just great!"

It looks as though Samsung has bailed out on CRTs. Pity: They seemed to be the last manufacturer trying to keep mass production of the tubes going. Maybe they just decided that continuing R&D on CRTs was less than cost-effective; consumers are nuts about big flat panels.

I have a feeling that just as hard-core stereo aficionados have clung tenaciously to vinyl, some videophiles will always prefer CRTs, and good ones may be highly prized (read expensive in a specialty market). I have read that the truest color calibration & signal tweaking is still left to CRTs, and I find that easy to believe.

I predict that CRTs won't disappear altogether. Good ones will just get really expensive.

xraffle
08-19-08, 04:17 PM
Well the problem is these issues are distracting. Instead of enjoying the content of what you're watching, you end up getting all concerned and annoyed over the issues on your TV set.

squallsan
08-20-08, 02:56 PM
Well the problem is these issues are distracting in. Instead of enjoying the content of what you're watching, you end up getting all concerned and annoyed over the issues on your TV set.

Exactly!

squallsan
08-24-08, 06:46 PM
It seems my board is on backorder now and won't be in till Sept 12. Lovely.

xraffle
08-25-08, 03:01 PM
It seems my board is on backorder now and won't be in till Sept 12. Lovely.

That sounds like a fun wait.

eganp
08-27-08, 01:36 PM
The Tech says that the SSB card is broken. It's the card with the HDMI ports on it. I want to replace it myself but I can't find the card anywhere. Does anyone know where I can purchase the card? Samsung wont sell it to me.

Sincerely,

Pio.

squallsan
08-28-08, 12:48 AM
Just got a call from BB, told me that I've been approved for a TV exchange, aka I get my monies back and get something new. Nice try Samsung with the slimfit but it was an epic fail. I'm no debating if to get a Samsung LCD or not>

The reason why my exchange was approved was because the part had been delayed again till the 22 of Sept. AND IT WAS STILL NOT A GUARANTEE.

xraffle
08-28-08, 09:22 AM
Just got a call from BB, told me that I've been approved for a TV exchange, aka I get my monies back and get something new. Nice try Samsung with the slimfit but it was an epic fail. I'm no debating if to get a Samsung LCD or not>

The reason why my exchange was approved was because the part had been delayed again till the 22 of Sept. AND IT WAS STILL NOT A GUARANTEE.

That's interesting that you had your TV for over a year and they're willing to give you your money back. Lucky you!!

squallsan
08-28-08, 10:46 AM
Well I bought their $89 stupid PRP, so I guess that helps.

delukard
08-28-08, 11:36 PM
Hi! im new to these forums.
I have a question.
I have the panasonic slimfit hdtv don't remember the model(2xhdmi,2xcomponent, etc)
I bougth it for 250us.
The image is not that greath(compared to my sony and panasonic hdtv)
the problem that i have is that is not saving my seetings, whenever i change them they go back to VIVID with cool temp color , after 10+ minutes.
Do you guys know if this is expensive to fix?
i dont like cool temp on tv's(or warm)
Also do you guys know if there is any purpose in the USB port on the back of the tv(upgrade firmware?)

reppa
08-29-08, 12:32 AM
Sorry if this has been answered already, but I'm having an issue with my Samsung. The set itself has a little tune it plays when I turn it on and off, but it makes this zapping like sound when I turn it on and then does the tune. It has been doing this ever since I have had it. It doesn't seem like it's messing anything up, but it's a little annoying. Has anyone else had this issue and what can you do to fix it?

Also it's still under warranty, but I don't want to make a service call. I'm sure the day will come when something goes wrong with my set and they can't fix it. Then they will give me something else. Which is exactly what I don't want.

thanks for any help.

squallsan
08-29-08, 05:26 PM
You can always turn the melody off altogether in the menus.

reppa
08-29-08, 07:22 PM
thanks. I'm not worried about the melody though. It's the zapping sound when I turn it on that bothers me.

louie826
08-29-08, 07:51 PM
Here's some not-so-surprising news. Samsung no longer advertises any Slimfits or CRTs on their website. The Slimfit product pages are now only in their support sites. A week ago, they only had the small 20" TXT2082 advertised in the now-defunct Slimfit page.

Hi! im new to these forums.
I have a question.
I have the panasonic slimfit hdtv don't remember the model(2xhdmi,2xcomponent, etc)
I bougth it for 250us.
The image is not that greath(compared to my sony and panasonic hdtv)
the problem that i have is that is not saving my seetings, whenever i change them they go back to VIVID with cool temp color , after 10+ minutes.
Do you guys know if this is expensive to fix?
i dont like cool temp on tv's(or warm)
Also do you guys know if there is any purpose in the USB port on the back of the tv(upgrade firmware?)

The resetting settings sound like it's stuck in Shop Mode.

Shut off the TV, wait a few seconds, then point the remote at the TV and push Mute, 1, 8, 2, then Power.
In one of the Option menus look for an option named "Shop Mode" then push Enter on the remote to change the mode from On to Off.
Push Menu to go back to the main service menu, then push Power on the remote to turn off the TV, then push it again to turn it back on.
This should stop the TV from resetting its settings every half-hour.

Yes, the USB port in the back is for potential firmware updates. I really doubt there will be an update anytime soon.

Sorry if this has been answered already, but I'm having an issue with my Samsung. The set itself has a little tune it plays when I turn it on and off, but it makes this zapping like sound when I turn it on and then does the tune. It has been doing this ever since I have had it. It doesn't seem like it's messing anything up, but it's a little annoying. Has anyone else had this issue and what can you do to fix it?

Also it's still under warranty, but I don't want to make a service call. I'm sure the day will come when something goes wrong with my set and they can't fix it. Then they will give me something else. Which is exactly what I don't want.

thanks for any help.

Does this zapping noise occur when your tuning to an analog channel, digital channel, or both?

My TV has an odd electric sound whenever I turn it on and it goes to a digital channel. Occasionally it'll say "Searching for Signal" for a second then go to the channel. Other than that I've had no TV problems relating to that noise.

You can always turn the melody off altogether in the menus.
Useless fact : there is an option in the service menu to increase or decrease the volume of the melody. Unfortunately, this option doesn't affect the melody volume in any way.

reppa
08-29-08, 08:01 PM
louie826,

Thanks for all the info. It makes the zapping sound when I turn it on all the time. I read in some previous posts that it's a degauss or something. Makes sense if that's the case. It's not really a big deal.

I do have another question if you don't mind. I tried connecting my surround sound system to my slimfit with an optical cable and I'm not getting any sound. I just had this same system hooked up to a big screen tv the same way. Am I doing something worng?

Thanks for any additional input.

louie826
08-29-08, 08:32 PM
I don't have a Slimfit with an optical out. From searching through one of the online manuals on page 9 (http://www.samsung.com/us/support/download/supportDown.do?group=televisions&type=televisions&subtype=slimfithdtv&model_nm=TX-T3093WH&dType=D&mType=UM&vType=R&prd_ia_cd=02010400&acc_ia_fl=N&disp_nm=TX-T3093WH) I found this notice:

DIGITAL AUDIO OUT (OPTICAL)
RF (Digital/Analog), AV, S-Video - Sound is output
Component, HDMI - Sound is not output

* When the COMPONENT IN or HDMI IN jacks are connected, the Optical jack on the TV does not output audio. If you want to hear audio, connect the DIGITAL AUDIO OUT (OPTICAL) jack on the DVD player or Set-Top Box directly to an Amplifier or DVD Home Theater, not the TV.

Is this true in your situation?

xraffle
08-29-08, 09:14 PM
Useless fact : there is an option in the service menu to increase or decrease the volume of the melody. Unfortunately, this option doesn't affect the melody volume in any way.

Really? I turned off the melody on my Slimfit through the regular menu (not the service menu). So, everyone should have the option of turning it off. I found it annoying, so I turned mine off. Don't know why they put that melody in the first place. It serves no purpose.

reppa
08-29-08, 09:44 PM
louie826,

I have my cable box and dvd player connected by both HDMI inputs. I couldn't get it to work so I just ran the optical cable from my surround sound system directly to my cable box. Kinda odd, but for some reason it sounds better than I remember when I was going through the TV on my other TV instead of directly through the cable box. I haven't messed with the melody option yet, but I'm going to have to try that out. Thanks for all your help.

The Lizard King
08-30-08, 09:06 AM
Really? I turned off the melody on my Slimfit through the regular menu (not the service menu). So, everyone should have the option of turning it off. I found it annoying, so I turned mine off. Don't know why they put that melody in the first place. It serves no purpose.
I turned my down to the lowest volume, but I like it. There are actually TWO jingles -- one that increases its notes (on) and the other that decreases its notes (off). I like it because sometimes my satellite box is showing a black screen, and I cannot tell if the set is on or off. Hitting the power button and listening to the jingle tells me whether the set is on or off.

I've had my TX-T3092WH for 1.5 years and haven't had any problems with it. I'm so glad that I bought the TV before Samsung completely discontinued the Slim Fit line.

TLK :cool:

http://static.flickr.com/115/***************************

xraffle
08-30-08, 02:25 PM
I like it because sometimes my satellite box is showing a black screen, and I cannot tell if the set is on or off.


I don't know about your TV, but mine has a standby light. So, that tells me if my TV is on or off.

louie826
08-30-08, 11:42 PM
I shut off that standby light once I saw the option to do so in the service menu. Standby lights annoy me and I got enough dumb electronics and surge protectors with little lights in my room.

The Lizard King
09-01-08, 05:31 PM
I don't know about your TV, but mine has a standby light. So, that tells me if my TV is on or off.
Yep, mine does as well. However, when I'm in a half-asleep stupor at 1:30 am, the jingle tells me more than whether I can see a little red light, or not.

TLK :cool:

http://static.flickr.com/115/***************************

bakedbean
09-01-08, 08:57 PM
I have a 30" 79 model. It has the shutdown issue, that can be temporarily remedied by pointing a fan into the back of the set. I found a page by Jason Coyne that describes this issue and it's repair but without details.

The page mentions the fix of the issue by replacing some components but I cannot find out which components are replaced. I browsed the first 40 pages of this thread thus far and found others with my issue but no resolution. The page mentions that the service technician said this problem plagues all sets with a Y in ther serial number followed by an 8, 9 or A. Mine has a Y followed by a 9. This problem presents earlier on as geometry issues and eventually results in the protect mode like random shutdowns.

The question: does anyone know which caps/resistors, etc. need to be replaced and/or upgraded to resolve the automatic shutdown. I have done these types of repair before and am aware of the dangers already. It would simply save alot of time if someone has made this repair before and can tell me what to replace so I can get my set back up and running.

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

Zimm98
09-03-08, 02:29 PM
Well I had my slim fit go bad on me on friday the picture went into an hr glass shape and it smelled really hot. It sounds like I now have a giant paper weight, any ideas?

The Lizard King
09-04-08, 09:19 PM
Well I had my slim fit go bad on me on friday the picture went into an hr glass shape and it smelled really hot. It sounds like I now have a giant paper weight, any ideas?
Yes. Find some paper. :D

TLK :cool:

http://static.flickr.com/115/***************************

DarkNessBear
09-22-08, 03:04 AM
Well I had my slim fit go bad on me on friday the picture went into an hr glass shape and it smelled really hot. It sounds like I now have a giant paper weight, any ideas?

Same here. I've been trying to fix it in the deflection menu but no luck... wish these things had a reset.

evil
09-23-08, 05:14 PM
Last Friday I could not turn my set back onat all. Had to take it to tweeter and pay 50 bucks for them to sent some where so that they can tell me if thing can be fix for a good price. I thnk that I'm SOL :{

tommyfw
10-12-08, 01:14 PM
Have had a 30" 79 model for about 2 years. Turned it on the other day and didn't have the color red any longer.

Is this a common problem and how do I fix it? Is it possible to fix without bringing it to a repair shop?

Thanks for any assistance!

tommyfw

rsecpa
10-20-08, 02:02 PM
Problem with TX-S2782

My brother has directv and last week upgraded to hd service. When hooking up set top hd receiver to tv via either hdmi or component, the audio is not in sync with the video. The audio is about 2 seconds behind the video. I tried a second hd receiver with the same result. When I use the audio out of the hd receiver to his stereo, the audio is in sync. I just turned the volume of the tv off. When he had his old directv sd receiver hooked up via the a/v input there was no problem. It seems to affect only hd inputs.

Could this be a service menu issue where there are adjustments to syncronize audio and video? Or is this a bad component part issue? If a service menu issue, which item on the menu list would this be? Access to the service manual would be appreciated from anyone who may have one if this is a service menu issue. The tv is out of warranty, so if a part issue it probably isn't worth the repair cost.

Big_Al
10-26-08, 05:46 PM
I have a 30" 79 model. It has the shutdown issue, that can be temporarily remedied by pointing a fan into the back of the set. I found a page by Jason Coyne that describes this issue and it's repair but without details.

The page mentions the fix of the issue by replacing some components but I cannot find out which components are replaced. I browsed the first 40 pages of this thread thus far and found others with my issue but no resolution. The page mentions that the service technician said this problem plagues all sets with a Y in ther serial number followed by an 8, 9 or A. Mine has a Y followed by a 9. This problem presents earlier on as geometry issues and eventually results in the protect mode like random shutdowns.

The question: does anyone know which caps/resistors, etc. need to be replaced and/or upgraded to resolve the automatic shutdown. I have done these types of repair before and am aware of the dangers already. It would simply save alot of time if someone has made this repair before and can tell me what to replace so I can get my set back up and running.

Any help is much appreciated.

Thanks!

I had the "shutdown issue" crop up about 3 weeks ago on my 30" Slimfit. Looked here in AVS and also at Jason Coyne's page, no real help. Like some others I've read of, mine was accompanied by another symptom, increased horizontal overscan that was noticed about the time of the first shutdown. A 4x3 program nearly filled my 16x9 screen in 4x3 mode all the time.

I decided to try adjusting the image back to normal width using the deflection menu accessed from the service menu. I used ONLY the deflection menu ... wrote down all factory settings ... then adjusted "H-AMP" until the 4x3 screen looked about the right width; centered it using "H-SHIFT"; exited service mode; selected a 16x9 source & went to 16x9 display mode; then back to the service menu for another check of the width & overscan. I left it with just a little H overscan in 16x9, rechecked 4x3 mode again, and quit there.

To my delight, since I adjusted my set it has not shutdown at all and it's been over a week. Prior to that it was shutting down at least once per evening, sometimes more. Keeping fingers crossed!

[November 21: My 30 inch Slimfit has now died. Won't turn on at all. Will be buying an LCD flat panel to replace it this weekend.]

mnestheus
11-16-08, 02:00 PM
I have owned the 27" Slimfit for almost two years and am very happy with it. In fact, my only regret is that I didn't just spend the extra $50 and get the 30" (TXT3093H) from the getgo. When I made the purchase I had no idea that I'd soon be getting all the FiOS HD biz and really "need" those extra inches!

I'm very willing to upgrade, but am concerned about getting one with one of the flaws mentioned in this thread. ("Let not the perfect be the enemy of the good")

My questions:

Does the 30" Slimfits have more problems than the 27"?
Is Samsung still making revisions to this model or is it no longer in production?
If they have made revisions to correct these problems, how can I be sure to get the most up-to-date model?
Does anyone one of places in the DC area where I can find a demo model?


Any other helpful advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!

zrdb
11-16-08, 02:05 PM
Samjunk dumped these slimfit crt models-if that tells you anything-and I'm glad you had good luck with your 27" for 2 years-but don't gamble-stay away from these things like you'd stay away from a poison pill.

WJonathan
11-16-08, 02:31 PM
I have owned the 27" Slimfit for almost two years and am very happy with it. In fact, my only regret is that I didn't just spend the extra $50 and get the 30" (TXT3093H) from the getgo. When I made the purchase I had no idea that I'd soon be getting all the FiOS HD biz and really "need" those extra inches!

I'm very willing to upgrade, but am concerned about getting one with one of the flaws mentioned in this thread. ("Let not the perfect be the enemy of the good")

My questions:

Does the 30" Slimfits have more problems than the 27"?
Is Samsung still making revisions to this model or is it no longer in production?
If they have made revisions to correct these problems, how can I be sure to get the most up-to-date model?
Does anyone one of places in the DC area where I can find a demo model?


Any other helpful advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!

Don't do it. Buy a used Sony or Panasonic if you have to have a CRT, otherwise just get a cheap flatpanel.

xraffle
11-16-08, 09:14 PM
Samjunk dumped these slimfit crt models-if that tells you anything-and I'm glad you had good luck with your 27" for 2 years-but don't gamble-stay away from these things like you'd stay away from a poison pill.
I've had my Slimfit (TX-T2082) for over a year already. The darn thing still works, but I still have that darn flickering problem. What is wrong with this thing? You'd think that if this thing flickers, it's obviously no good and would break, but no. It's still alive.