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Hey all,
I tried searching this thread but it's a bit unwieldily, and I don't really know what my problem is called.
Anyway, I have had the TXR3079 for about a year and a half now and this problem just showed up about a month ago. On the right side of the screen vertical bars of red green and blue show up when the screen is very dark. Do you guys have any idea what's going on here or how I could fix this?
I have a picture but the forum won't let me post since I'm new.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Tim
fleaman 10-31-06, 02:43 AM When the technology changed from rounded screens to flat screens these problems began to crop up, as there were now differences in distance between the guns and the various parts of the screen. This affected both focus and linearity. Then with the addition of the slim lines, the differences became even more pronounced. From what I've seen the 4:3 designs suffer the least problems.
But we know it can be done right because there are alot of very happy owners even here at AVS.
I've been following this thread on/off since, well close to the beginning. The slimfits really interested me at first, but of course all the problems with them have cooled my desire for one.
But, I might just be a better candidate for a slimfit than most> I would be replacing a reg. 27" toshiba CRT with a 27" 4:3 slimfit. I have a ceiling mounted projector so the slimfit would just be filling my daily TV duties and I don't need a widescreen for tv stuff.
So I gather the 27" 4:3 has the least problems....at least with geometry? Would I be 'safe' with the 27" 4:3 slimfit or are there still issues with those sets?
Any difference with the LG slim line...or are they just rebranded Samsungs?
Fleaman
Hey all,
I tried searching this thread but it's a bit unwieldily, and I don't really know what my problem is called.
Anyway, I have had the TXR3079 for about a year and a half now and this problem just showed up about a month ago. On the right side of the screen vertical bars of red green and blue show up when the screen is very dark. Do you guys have any idea what's going on here or how I could fix this?
I have a picture but the forum won't let me post since I'm new.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Tim
I've had a few issues with my 3079 but the last issue I had was what you're describing. When there was a dark background and an object would move to the right side of the screen I would get the colored bars.
I placed a service call on September 13th and was told they would exchange my tv. After all the run around and heated discussions with Samsung they offered me a new TX-S3065WR. I accepted and I'm still waiting.
Not sure it there is a fix.
I had the same issue with the "Rainbows" on my SlimFit TXR-3080WH. After many calls to Samsung they have agreed to replace the set. I've had a majority of the problems described in this post - purple corners, wavy lines on 4:3 material, and now the "rainbow" problem. Samsung offered to replace my set with the new model TXS-3082, but I decided I don't want another problem child. So, I decided to bite the bullet and pay some extra $$ to get a 32" lcd instead. I'm still waiting for Samsung to deliver the new LCD and pick-up the old SlimFit unit. I've never had so many problems with a TV ever...But, I'm glad Samsung came through and finally offered to replace it.
I've been following this thread on/off since, well close to the beginning. The slimfits really interested me at first, but of course all the problems with them have cooled my desire for one.
But, I might just be a better candidate for a slimfit than most> I would be replacing a reg. 27" toshiba CRT with a 27" 4:3 slimfit. I have a ceiling mounted projector so the slimfit would just be filling my daily TV duties and I don't need a widescreen for tv stuff.
So I gather the 27" 4:3 has the least problems....at least with geometry? Would I be 'safe' with the 27" 4:3 slimfit or are there still issues with those sets?
Any difference with the LG slim line...or are they just rebranded Samsungs?
Fleaman
Safe is not a word I would apply to any HD display technologies at this still early stage. However, my understanding is that the 4:3 sets have experienced much less problems than their widescreen counterparts. Maybe "safer" is a better word?
Cheers!
fleaman 10-31-06, 07:33 PM Safe is not a word I would apply to any HD display technologies at this still early stage. However, my understanding is that the 4:3 sets have experienced much less problems than their widescreen counterparts. Maybe "safer" is a better word?
Cheers!
Thanks for posting justsc,
Would it be safer that I really only watch non-HD content on the 27"? I only have local channels in HD and if needed, I fire up the Projector for that.
I guess the bottom line is I would like to just gain a little extra space in my small room and the slimfit would do just that....if it performs just as well as my STD-def Toshiba 27" 4:3, I would be happy. If it performed better, I would be happier and more motivated to purchase sooner than later.
Thoughts?
Fleaman
catamountalum200 10-31-06, 10:37 PM ok i bought the samsung slimfit 3079 today from sam's club for like 500 hundred dollars. i like it but i am kind of worried after reading all of the bad stuff on here. well i have a few questions first will this tv display everything except for 1080p also will it auto configure to whatever the show is playing at such as 1080i or so forth. also i dont have hd through the cable company i have reg cable so i was wondering if i got a indoor ant because i live in a condo so no roof for me will i be able to get hi def signals with it and if so what is the best ant to buy if i want to get hi def channels. the last thing is how many people like this tv over the lg one that is just like it, oh yeah is this the oldest model and then the 3080 and then the 3082 is the newest one. i forgot on avg how long has someone owned this tv before they noticed any problem with it.
catamountalum200 10-31-06, 11:33 PM i forgot to ask before does this have a qam tuner like the lg that looks like this one.
catamountalum200 11-01-06, 09:33 AM as i said yesterday i bought the 3079 samsung and i was wondering if anyone had perfect settings for this tv that i could use. i am a noob when it comes to hdtv. thanks alot. i have my contrast at 60 i think and everything else is factory settings like i think everything else is at 50
catamountalum200 11-01-06, 08:42 PM so does any one know about my few questions i asked
Thanks for posting justsc,
Would it be safer that I really only watch non-HD content on the 27"? I only have local channels in HD and if needed, I fire up the Projector for that.
I guess the bottom line is I would like to just gain a little extra space in my small room and the slimfit would do just that....if it performs just as well as my STD-def Toshiba 27" 4:3, I would be happy. If it performed better, I would be happier and more motivated to purchase sooner than later.
Thoughts?
Fleaman
I don't think the content affects the "safety" factor. If I got this 27" set (which I would if I were in the market for a 4:3 27" set) I'd use it for whatever signals it could display.
Compared to SD Toshiba? - I have never compared these two against one another. The contest would be which had the best SD picture quality, and I just can't tell you for sure which would be best. I can tell you that I have a Samsung 27" HD set (older) and it's fabulous with SD and HD. I wouldn't trade it for anything.
If you can buy it from a reseller that gives you a 30 day return policy then you have nothing to lose.
I say give it a try. ;)
catamountalum200,
This set will display both 1080i and 480p. Incoming HD (720p and 1080i) will be displayed at 1080i and incoming SD (480i and 480p) at 480p (I'm pretty sure this is still correct, although you may have a choice to display everything at 1080i).
Autoconfigure - Yes, as explained above.
Antennas - Go to antennaweb.com for info on antennas and which digital signals you can receive at your location.
Can't help you with LG and longevity issues.
No QAM tuner.
Settings - Using anyone else's settings will be of little help. These are analog devices and each one is uniquely adjusted at the factory and different from all the others. Your best bet is to get either the Avia or DVE calibration DVDs and give your set a proper calibration. IMHO, Contrast at 60 is awfully high. Setting Contrast too high can shorten the life of the tube. Be sure you are not using the Dynamic picture mode, as this drives the tv in torch mode for bright showroom floors. Try using the Custom picture mode and adjust to taste until you get the calibration dvd. I'd set Contrast at no higher than 45-50. Setting all others at 50 is OK I guess, whatever looks best to you - that might be a bit high for Color saturation.
catamountalum200 11-02-06, 03:39 PM is it bad that it does not have a qam tuner, also is the picture going to suffer when it upgrades the 720p signal to a 1080i signal.
is it bad that it does not have a qam tuner
It all depends.
A QAM tuner is essentially a cable tuner. If you had a QAM tuner, and if you had basic analog cable service, you could connect the coax cable to the proper antenna input on the tv and receive the local HD and digital SD channels free. This is if your local cable company is carrying the local digital channels.
Without a QAM tuner you need digital service from your cable company to get these local channels and other digital cable content.
Since I use Comcast's Digital Classic service I get these local digital channels through the set-top-box. But if I wasn't subscribing to this digital tier then I most would most certainly want a QAM tuner.
In my opinion I believe today's sets should include QAM tuners. Those sets that include CableCard service always have QAM tuners. The rest is up to the manufacturer.
Looks like you were editing your question while I was answering :-)
The picture will not suffer any loss of quality when scaled from 720p to 1080i.
catamountalum200 11-02-06, 04:17 PM i bought a rca ant today from target and now i am recieving it looks to be like 5 hd channels, such as fox asc cbs nbc and pbs. does the ant replace the qam tuner on this tv meaning is it doing the same thing a qam tuner would do
i bought a rca ant today from target and now i am recieving it looks to be like 5 hd channels, such as fox asc cbs nbc and pbs. does the ant replace the qam tuner on this tv meaning is it doing the same thing a qam tuner would do
I'm not sure I understand the question.
You have connected your cable line to the antenna port on the RCA, right?
And you are getting the local HD channels as we discussed earlier?
Are you also getting all the other channels you are used to receiving?
catamountalum200 11-02-06, 05:24 PM oh ok i bought an antenna and hooked it up to my air port on the samsung and kept my cable plugged into the cable port so i switch between the cable port and the air port, so on cable i get cable but on the air port i am getting about 5 hd channels
hakunamutata 11-04-06, 11:01 PM For future reference, can you tell us where this fuse is located and how to get to it and any other information you can provide. Thanks.
Sorry I had taken so long to reply, but wouldn't you have guessed I lost my pc as well. Anyway the back panel come of quite easily with all the screws off. Then follow the power cord to the circuit board, it is small so you'll have to look closely. I got the replacement at Radio Shack. Its a slow burn fuse: part #T5AL250V.
Hi everyone, my first post here.
I've spent the last 2 days reading this topic and that other topic about the 3082 model. As you can see, I'm planning to purchase a new TV to replace my old 15 years old Toshiba. Initially, I wanted to get the Sony 34XBR970 but I was dissapointed to find out that they do not have the Asian equivalent of that model. It seems that the Singapore site of SonyStyle doesn't carry anymore CRT HDTVs. Alas, it seems that I have to resort to Samsung SlimFit TVs.
I'm interested in these 2 models in the SlimFit line: WS-32Z40HD (seems to be the Asian equivalent of the 3082 with 1 less HDMI port and no ATSC tuner) and the 4:3 version of that model, CS-29Z40HM. Note that the 4:3 version doesn't have an HDMI port.
I've looked at both TVs and it seems that the 4:3 version does have a slightly better PQ. I suppose that's because of the inherent nature of the electron gun in widescreen SlimFit. However, I'm rather worried about the lack of HDMI port.
Any advices would be very appreciated. Thanks in advance.
I received my replacement Slimfit TX-S3065WR on Thursday. I immediately noticed a problem with the picture. On both the left and right sides there are horizontal lines going from top to bottom. As they get closer to the bottom of the screen they get larger and arc towards the centre of the screen. Anyone have an idea what this could be? I have pictures but I'm not sure how to submit them.
The geometry on this set is much better than the 3079 it replaced. If it's not one thing it's another.
Hi everyone, my first post here.
I've spent the last 2 days reading this topic and that other topic about the 3082 model. As you can see, I'm planning to purchase a new TV to replace my old 15 years old Toshiba. Initially, I wanted to get the Sony 34XBR970 but I was dissapointed to find out that they do not have the Asian equivalent of that model. It seems that the Singapore site of SonyStyle doesn't carry anymore CRT HDTVs. Alas, it seems that I have to resort to Samsung SlimFit TVs.
I'm interested in these 2 models in the SlimFit line: WS-32Z40HD (seems to be the Asian equivalent of the 3082 with 1 less HDMI port and no ATSC tuner) and the 4:3 version of that model, CS-29Z40HM. Note that the 4:3 version doesn't have an HDMI port.
I've looked at both TVs and it seems that the 4:3 version does have a slightly better PQ. I suppose that's because of the inherent nature of the electron gun in widescreen SlimFit. However, I'm rather worried about the lack of HDMI port.
Any advices would be very appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Since it doesn't have HDMI, does it have DVI? Could it be that HDMI is not a digital connection standard in Singapore? If not, is there another kind of connector for digital signals?
Hopefully there's still 2 component connections. These should be find for HD and SD signals so long as your peripherals don't require digital connections.
I received my replacement Slimfit TX-S3065WR on Thursday. I immediately noticed a problem with the picture. On both the left and right sides there are horizontal lines going from top to bottom. As they get closer to the bottom of the screen they get larger and arc towards the centre of the screen. Anyone have an idea what this could be? I have pictures but I'm not sure how to submit them.
The geometry on this set is much better than the 3079 it replaced. If it's not one thing it's another.
Can you provide a picture? I'm having trouble picturing what you are referring to.
Can you provide a picture? I'm having trouble picturing what you are referring to.
Either I don't have enough posts to submit pictures or I'm blind and can't see the option. I could email them or IM them to you.
Either I don't have enough posts to submit pictures or I'm blind and can't see the option. I could email them or IM them to you.
I believe you need to have completed 5 posts before you can post images. Maybe now you can?
I believe you need to have completed 5 posts before you can post images. Maybe now you can?
Here they are. It's hard to see but I have it outlined. Pic2 is probably the best. It's easier to see in front of the TV.
Here they are. It's hard to see but I have it outlined. Pic2 is probably the best. It's easier to see in front of the TV.
This looks like interference.
Do you have any speakers or other electronic equipment close to the tv? If speakers, try moving them well away and see what happens. If others, remove them one at a time and see if things improve. If you find an offender, you need to locate it somewhere else.
Since it doesn't have HDMI, does it have DVI? Could it be that HDMI is not a digital connection standard in Singapore? If not, is there another kind of connector for digital signals?
Hopefully there's still 2 component connections. These should be find for HD and SD signals so long as your peripherals don't require digital connections.
No, the CS-29Z40 doesn't have a DVI port. It has S-Video and components though. Well, HD isn't exactly a big thing here yet. Our cable providers will supposedly provide HD channels at the end of the year but even then, I won't be surprised if it gets delayed. All normal TV broadcasts are still in SD. However, I'm certain that once HD becomes big here, HDMI would be the digital connection standard.
I do plan to purchase the PS3 somewhere in the next year though which requires an HDMI connection. The thing I'm rather worried is having to upgrade the TV again in a few years so I would prefer to purchase something that can last a while. I'm not sure how much of a potential loss I will incur for the lack of HDMI port. Is it going to be critical?
No, the CS-29Z40 doesn't have a DVI port. It has S-Video and components though. Well, HD isn't exactly a big thing here yet. Our cable providers will supposedly provide HD channels at the end of the year but even then, I won't be surprised if it gets delayed. All normal TV broadcasts are still in SD. However, I'm certain that once HD becomes big here, HDMI would be the digital connection standard.
I do plan to purchase the PS3 somewhere in the next year though which requires an HDMI connection. The thing I'm rather worried is having to upgrade the TV again in a few years so I would prefer to purchase something that can last a while. I'm not sure how much of a potential loss I will incur for the lack of HDMI port. Is it going to be critical?
Well, HDMI is becoming the default digital interface, especially since it carries video and 5.1 channel audio. The PS3 will require HDMI. All new HD dvd players will require HDMI. And on it goes. I would consider the lack of an HDMI interface as a deal-killer.
So off to the WS-32Z40HD we go then. Thanks for the advices, justsc. It has been very helpful.
It's a pity that we don't have the Sony XBR970 model here. Eventhen, I doubt I can import it considering the sheer size of that thing.
This looks like interference.
Do you have any speakers or other electronic equipment close to the tv? If speakers, try moving them well away and see what happens. If others, remove them one at a time and see if things improve. If you find an offender, you need to locate it somewhere else.
I moved my left speaker away from the TV but the problem is still there. This is happening on the left and right side of the screen. Is it possible for something on the right side of the TV to cause interference that would distort the image on both sides? What are the chances of the built in speakers causing the interference? Maybe not enough shielding.
Is it possible for something on the right side of the TV to cause interference that would distort the image on both sides?
Considering the problem still persists, it's possible. Just try to isolate the TV somewhere else first.
CaptGar 11-07-06, 11:51 AM Thanks for all the info in this forum.
Just purchased the 30" and am happy with regard to most of the issues discussed here. I'm looking at the unit as a "bridge" and am willing to live with some minor issues for the price point gain. I am noticing, however, that the regular channels on Comcast cable--connected through coax at the ANT 2-- actually appear to display worse than with the old Sony (15 years old) the SlimFit is replacing. Will that improve with the HD upgrade box or will I have to endure the look until everyone switches over? I'm pretty sure it's not the unit because the DVD displays beautifully.
Secondarily, has anyone noticed a bowing at the top and bottom of the screen? The tilt feature fixed the bottom screen crawl but I didn't find any way to square out the picture in the centers of the top and bottom.
Thanks for all the info in this forum.
Just purchased the 30" and am happy with regard to most of the issues discussed here. I'm looking at the unit as a "bridge" and am willing to live with some minor issues for the price point gain. I am noticing, however, that the regular channels on Comcast cable--connected through coax at the ANT 2-- actually appear to display worse than with the old Sony (15 years old) the SlimFit is replacing. Will that improve with the HD upgrade box or will I have to endure the look until everyone switches over? I'm pretty sure it's not the unit because the DVD displays beautifully.
Secondarily, has anyone noticed a bowing at the top and bottom of the screen? The tilt feature fixed the bottom screen crawl but I didn't find any way to square out the picture in the centers of the top and bottom.
Both items you mention are typical.
The biggest challenge for many HD sets is the picture quality of non HD material. Analog material was designed for 19" interlaced sets. Along comes these bigger sets that are stretching the 480 analog lines to fit into a much larger screen. This serves to expose any and all inconsistencies in the signal, not visible on older analog set, even large analog sets. However, analog or SD material does not have to look bad on HD sets. Most importand are the settings you apply to the signal. On Samsung sets you must immediately change the picture mode from Dynamic to Custom. Reduce Contrast to around 35-45 or slightly more. Brightness around 45-50. Color and Tint can be at the mid point for both. Set Sharpness low, say around 29. Use the Neutral or Normal color temp. Try these settings and see what happens. Then you need to get a calibration dvd and give your new HD set a proper calibration. Look for Avia, DVE or Home Theater Tuneup - they all work very well. They are designed to get your set as close to NTSC standards as possible. From there you can adjust to taste. Always be careful with Contrast, as too much can shorten the life of the tube.
The bowing is a known issue. It's a part of the set's geometry and crt sets are more prone to geometry anomalies than any other display technology. My Samsung set is like yours. I still have a little bowing (upward) at the bottom center. I just got used to it. If it's excessive place a service call, or return the set for another. Just be careful, as the next one could be worse. If the bowing is tolerable I recommend keeping the current set and try to adjust to it. You can also get into the TV's service menu (SM) and adjust for overscan (using the calibration dvd) to send some or all of the bowing closest to the edge off screen.
Cheers!
CaptGar 11-08-06, 09:57 AM Thanks for the information. Got the new HD cable box from Comcast (they said it would make a difference and it did)and made the recommended settings changes. The picture looks very nice on all channels and the bowing seems less pronounced. Looks like this set will be the bridge technology for me. The picture quality is better than many of the lower-end LCD's I saw and I have all that extra green stuff in my pocket! Seriously, after alot of comparing, the dollar value here seems almost untouchable...we'll see in the long term. I really appreciate your help.
Thanks for the information. Got the new HD cable box from Comcast (they said it would make a difference and it did)and made the recommended settings changes. The picture looks very nice on all channels and the bowing seems less pronounced. Looks like this set will be the bridge technology for me. The picture quality is better than many of the lower-end LCD's I saw and I have all that extra green stuff in my pocket! Seriously, after alot of comparing, the dollar value here seems almost untouchable...we'll see in the long term. I really appreciate your help.
This is great news ;)
Don't forget about the calibration dvd.
Cheers!
First time poster, long time lurker :), anyways, I have had my slimfit 3082 for a couple of months now (3 to be exact) and I just couldn't be happier. I have not had any major problems with my set *knocks on wood*. I do not have any "bowing" issues on the bottom or top of the screen which I am thankful for. The only geometry issues I have is the left side arch's a little when in 4:3 mode, which is easily fixed with the tilt feature or the 16:9/Zoom1 modes. I have yet to calibrate this set with a proper DVD (I used that cheap free option from THX certified movies.. good enough for now.), so I can't wait to see how it looks done right. I read the forums and had big doubts on buying this set, but I'm glad I took the chance.
Hey Justsc
Here's a couple of better pics of the problem I described with my set.
Hey Justsc
Here's a couple of better pics of the problem I described with my set.
If I'm reading these correctly, there appears to be moire patterns in each corner. It still looks like interference to me.
If you've ruled out all of your components and cabling, then it's time for the pros to sound off. If I were you I'd post this, with images, to the Display Calibration section of AVS (directly below this one on the board). Those guys can help now as I'm out of ideas.
Sorry for the delay - I broke my wrist Wednesday and it's really hard to write and type.
Sorry about your wrist Justsc..... :-(
You are a great help to all of us. Hope it heals quickly!
Jazzledeans 11-11-06, 04:31 PM My 3079, will not turn on anymore...tried unplugging it but nothing seems to work anybody experience this or have any suggestions?
(All that happens is the red light on the front periodically blinks)
I had that happen to my 1st 3082. It was during a rainstorm but not a lot of electrical activity...I didn't know exactly why it happened. I had the TV for only 3 days and so I was definitely concerned about this TV. I took it back to HH Gregg and they were very accomodating. I took home a Toshiba instead...but the PQ etc was terrible....so I went back to a new different 3082...and that is what I have now. I sure wonder if the same thing may happen someday to this 3082, although after 5 months it has been great (knock on wood). Sorry to hear about your problem and maybe someone will chime in on what you can do. The symptoms are exactly like mine ie, red light just flickers. They told me to try a reset....unplug the cords for several hours...didnt work for me though. Good luck.
Jazzledeans 11-12-06, 04:13 PM yeah i tried the reset, left it unplugged overnight and still no luck...sounds like and electrical surge problem...thx for the insight tho
yeah i tried the reset, left it unplugged overnight and still no luck...sounds like and electrical surge problem...thx for the insight tho
It appears that you've done all you can do. If it's out of (extended) warranty, then I'd place a call to Samsung and they'll give you a referral to a local Samsung repair shop.
If I'm reading these correctly, there appears to be moire patterns in each corner. It still looks like interference to me.
If you've ruled out all of your components and cabling, then it's time for the pros to sound off. If I were you I'd post this, with images, to the Display Calibration section of AVS (directly below this one on the board). Those guys can help now as I'm out of ideas.
Sorry for the delay - I broke my wrist Wednesday and it's really hard to write and type.
Sorry to hear about your wrist.
I wish it was interference as it's something I could try and fix on my own. I forwarded the pictures to Samsung, they are being reviewed by a QC engineer. I'm supposed to hear from them today. I'll let you know what they say.
If something was causing interference wouldn't the 3079 this set replaced have had the same issue? Nothing has changed in my setup except for the TV.
...If something was causing interference wouldn't the 3079 this set replaced have had the same issue? Nothing has changed in my setup except for the TV.
Good question - I think it would have affected the other set.
I've just never seen that kind of pattern caused by anything else.
Best of Luck!
i bought my set in july. it just started getting magnet discoloration for no apparent reason. two nights in a row on opposite sides. has anyone else had a problem like this? could it be the internal speakers, as strange as that sounds?
i got the set at best buy and did not get an extended/replacement plan. anyone know their return policy for a tv?
thanks.
i bought my set in july. it just started getting magnet discoloration for no apparent reason. two nights in a row on opposite sides. has anyone else had a problem like this? could it be the internal speakers, as strange as that sounds?
i got the set at best buy and did not get an extended/replacement plan. anyone know their return policy for a tv?
thanks.
You have the 3082 with the speakers on the sides?
I have read about internal Sony speakers causing interference - turns out they were improperly shielded.
Are you sure nothing has changed in your set-up? No new equipment, or changes in the positioning of the existing equipment, including rotating the tv?
I'm unfamiliar with BBs return/exchange/repair policies. W/o an extended warranty you can call either Samsung or BB - your choice I guess.
There's a new guy here at AVS who's a repair technician. His name is MOtvGuy - you might send him a PM and see what he says.
yes, i thought i mentioned that. nothing has changed at all. the tv sat still, the side surround speakers werent moved and my amp next to it was not moved either.
the second night, it happened virtually in fron tof my eyes as the family watched a satelite show.
i did find that samsung has a 1 year part/labor and 2 year tube warranty. so that is good. anyone know how warranty work goes? do i have to send the 100 lbs beast somewhere? perhapse i will pm MOtvGuy.
and for the life of me i cant figure out why samsung did not put a degauss option somewhere in the set. maybe even in the service menu. my philips was awesome at that.
thanks
As far as I know the Samsung excercises the degaussing circuit at every power-up.
This is the one problem type that has me baffled. Some will call it a color purity issue unrelated to magnetism or other interference. Others say it's interference. Either way, I'm clueless as to how to attack it and I'd love for a more enlightened member to share a success story here. Especially for SM adjustments to clear color blotches and such.
catamountalum200 11-16-06, 11:30 AM ok quick question, i have the sammy 3079 does it display 720p or is it only go up 480p and the rest 1080i
ok quick question, i have the sammy 3079 does it display 720p or is it only go up 480p and the rest 1080i
It's 480p and 1080i. There are no commercial crt HD sets that display 720p.
justsc you may need to go over that. i am no expert, but i bought this set for the 720p support.
samsung spec page...
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/SlimFitHDTV/TXS3082WHXXAA.asp?page=Specifications
Good question - I think it would have affected the other set.
I've just never seen that kind of pattern caused by anything else.
Best of Luck!
Samsung came back and told me the replacement unit I received was out of spec and will need to be replaced. They never said what was causing it. They offered to ship another brand new TSX3065W. I hope this is lucky number three.
WilliamRLBaker 11-17-06, 10:54 AM It's 480p and 1080i. There are no commercial crt HD sets that display 720p.
with the 3082 its hard to determine, but its spec sheet usually mentions 720p and both component inputs in the back mention 720p and it plays 720p content...
But I need your help guys, I'm on my 2nd 3082 I returned the first after it died after 2 days, when i first got it home and used it had color blotches in all four corners, following advice from here i left it on for about an hour to 2 hours to see if it would mess up any more, no problems and the blotches disapeared by a miracle.
turned it off went to bed and next day it was dead totally dead wouldn't turn on or any thing. Took it back to the store got the same unit, this one is working fine no blotches at all, no geo issues.
The only problem is that on the component channels there are lightly visible verticle lines throughout the picture, I'm not sure if they show up in games I've not seen them, But in movies they appear, I've tried 16x9 widescreen movies, high def 480p movies, but they are all ways there.
was wondering if any one could help?
justsc you may need to go over that. i am no expert, but i bought this set for the 720p support.
samsung spec page...
http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/SlimFitHDTV/TXS3082WHXXAA.asp?page=Specifications
Unfortunately, I'm intimately aware of Samsung's online data sheets.
Bottom Line? These sets "support" 720p but cannot display 720p. They can receive 720p and then the signal gets scaled to 1080i. I realize Samsung uses words like "display format" and such with regard to 720p. I have a good internal contact at Samsung and brought this up to him. He attempted to contact those who handle web publishing, and it never got changed. I kind of wonder if they want to correct it.
So, yes, these sets fully support 720p, but this support consists of acknowledging the 720p format, accepting it and then scaling it for display at the set's native resolution of 1080i.
It wasn't long ago (4 years) that Samsung and other manufacturer's sets didn't even recognize and accept a 720p signal. Panasonic crts sets still don't accept a 720p signal (I believe this is still true - it was as of last year).
...The only problem is that on the component channels there are lightly visible verticle lines throughout the picture, I'm not sure if they show up in games I've not seen them, But in movies they appear, I've tried 16x9 widescreen movies, high def 480p movies, but they are all ways there.
was wondering if any one could help?
Maybe you could explain further with regard to "component channels."
Can I assume these are channels you receive from a set-top-box that's connected with component cables?
Have you tried using the other component input? I believe this set has two, correct?
FYI, 480p is not high def. I don't say this as a put down, but I need more info on your set-up to better understand how you're describing the problem. Even if you've provided it before, would you be so kind as to provide a list of all of your components (cable box, satellite box, dvd player), how they're connected (cable type and input on the tv), and if cable or satellite the level of service you have (HD, digital non-HD, analog).
Off the top of my head, it sounds like something may not be connected properly or maybe there's a bad cable.
WilliamRLBaker 11-17-06, 12:23 PM Ok I''ll give all the detail.
(side note dont need the information that you and the industry dont think 480p isn't highdef I believe it is because its not available on SDTV's, only on ED and HD tv's but thats not the point and no offense taken)
Ok I've done some researching with the tv. Vertical lines appear only on the component channels I.E component input 1, and 2 Any thing through component has these vertical lines Games, Movies...ect
I've hooked up dvd players, Progressive scan dvd players, Xbox, Ps2, Gamecube and the vertical lines are produced no matter what format its in 480i,480p,16x9,4:3
The AV inputs, S video input and HDMI as well as Coaxil Cable inputs do not experience, Regular cable and digital cable do not have a problem with these vertical lines, I went far to borrow an blu ray player that hooks up via hdmi to confirm that the hdmi channel doesn't produce these.
So i can only assume its not some thing wrong with the tube it self but the signal.
I've moved the tv from room to room hooking up only certain things to it and its still produces the vertical lines, The lines them selves are just areas about....30-40 of them in an 16x9 image of lighter and darker areas.
I'm using Monster cables for the xbox and ps2 you know the near 100 dollar ones, with static shield 24k gold connectors...ect
I've all so not calibrated this tv, I.E no service menu, and no changeing of contrast and such.
You didn't mention your other devices like cable or sat boxes, etc. Can't help much w/o the needed info.
What are your settings?
Specifically, which picture mode are you using (Custom, Dynamic, etc) and what are your settings for all the video characteristics (Contrast, Brightness, etc)?
If you use the same settings for all inputs then one set will do. If you use different settings for the various inputs then those are needed as well.
BTW-480p is available on SDTV's, it's just not a display format. The ATSC spec is "what it is," regardless of what one thinks.
Unfortunately, I'm intimately aware of Samsung's online data sheets.
Bottom Line? These sets "support" 720p but cannot display 720p. They can receive 720p and then the signal gets scaled to 1080i. I realize Samsung uses words like "display format" and such with regard to 720p. I have a good internal contact at Samsung and brought this up to him. He attempted to contact those who handle web publishing, and it never got changed. I kind of wonder if they want to correct it.
So, yes, these sets fully support 720p, but this support consists of acknowledging the 720p format, accepting it and then scaling it for display at the set's native resolution of 1080i.
It wasn't long ago (4 years) that Samsung and other manufacturer's sets didn't even recognize and accept a 720p signal. Panasonic crts sets still don't accept a 720p signal (I believe this is still true - it was as of last year).
well, that is a let down.
my only hidef source is my xbox360. it is currently set to output 720p. but if (one of) the tvs native resolution is 1080i, should i change my output to that? that way there is no scaling? should it look the same?
damn, still kinda irks me there. i think even the best buy ad said 720p.
well, that is a let down.
my only hidef source is my xbox360. it is currently set to output 720p. but if (one of) the tvs native resolution is 1080i, should i change my output to that? that way there is no scaling? should it look the same?
damn, still kinda irks me there. i think even the best buy ad said 720p.
I've been watching BB ads and they have been showing crt sets as 720p native. I couldn't believe it when I saw it.
But please don't be discouraged. You've liked it until just learning it wasn't really 720p, right? So now you have an opportunity to do a little experimenting. Try playing with the xbox outputting 720p and then 1080i and see which looks best. I wouldn't be surprised if it's almost impossible to tell the difference. Sometimes outputting 720p from another box looks better than when outputting 1080i. I have an Oppo upscaling dvd player that looks better when output at 720p than 1080i, even though my tv is 1080i native. You never know 'til you try.
It is upsetting to me that Samsung continues to keep those online data sheets as they are. It has led to no shortage of arguements on this and other forums.
I'm sure you'll settle on an output that looks wonderful on your set with your xbox360. ;)
WilliamRLBaker 11-17-06, 04:58 PM ok lets just drop the 480p im an idiot ok i know nothing bout tvs...
right now I have my gamecube hooked up via yellow/red/white on the first av input in the back, I have a red and white cables going from the output to my insignia 6.1 receiver.
i have my xbox hooked up via component RED/blue/green on the first component hook up.
i have my ps2 hooked up via the same method on the 2nd component hook up.
I have my basic cable hooked up via the 2nd coaxil connection.
I'm using dynamic, But the lines appear in all of them, dynamic, Movie,custom...ect
ill get you the contrast...ect info in a minute.
Ok here ya go
Dynamic Standard Movie Custom
Contrast 100 80 80 80
Brightness 45 50 50 50
Sharpness 55 50 50 50
Color 55 50 45 50
Tint 50 50 45 50
Tone norm cool1 warm2 cool1
I've not changed any setttings at all since i got the tv.
ok lets just drop the 480p im an idiot ok i know nothing bout tvs...
right now I have my gamecube hooked up via yellow/red/white on the first av input in the back, I have a red and white cables going from the output to my insignia 6.1 receiver.
i have my xbox hooked up via component RED/blue/green on the first component hook up.
i have my ps2 hooked up via the same method on the 2nd component hook up.
I have my basic cable hooked up via the 2nd coaxil connection.
I'm using dynamic, But the lines appear in all of them, dynamic, Movie,custom...ect
ill get you the contrast...ect info in a minute.
Ok here ya go
Dynamic Standard Movie Custom
Contrast 100 80 80 80
Brightness 45 50 50 50
Sharpness 55 50 50 50
Color 55 50 45 50
Tint 50 50 45 50
Tone norm cool1 warm2 cool1
I've not changed any setttings at all since i got the tv.
WOW.
This is dramatically different than the unedited post. This will be my last post on the matter. If I can't help you maybe someone else can.
Dynamic should never be used, regardless of values applied to other settings. Especially if one is suffering from artifacts as you have described. Custom is the best picture mode for all applications. I have never seen Contrast at these levels. I wouldn't set is any higher than 50-55. I guarantee running with Contrast at your current levels will shorten the life of the phosphors. If that makes the picture too dark raise Brightness. Sharpness simply adds more edge enhancement and emphasizes artifacts. Sharpness at 20 should be sufficient. Neither Tint nor Color should have any effect like those you've described and your settings are OK.
I believe you've indicated that you haven't yet calibrated the set. That would be good to do. More appropriate settings could go a long way towards mitigating the lines you're seeing when viewing component inputs. However, if they don't make your viewing acceptable then if I were you I'd call in a tech and ask to have the component inputs checked. I have this nagging gut feeling there may be a simple answer to all of this but I can't smoke it out from the communications we've had.
Good Luck.
well, that is a let down.
my only hidef source is my xbox360. it is currently set to output 720p. but if (one of) the tvs native resolution is 1080i, should i change my output to that? that way there is no scaling? should it look the same?
damn, still kinda irks me there. i think even the best buy ad said 720p.
Don't get discouraged like justsc said. ALL HDTV's do the exact same thing, what I'm glad for is that the slimfit looks good at any of the resolutions, even 480i.
Oh, and if 360 is your only source for HD, you should get an antenna (I have a cheap-o $10 one) and get the free over the air channels. Definitely worth it, especially for sports freaks and ABC/FOX show addicts.
I'm using dynamic, But the lines appear in all of them, dynamic, Movie,custom...ect
ill get you the contrast...ect info in a minute.
Ok here ya go
Dynamic Standard Movie Custom
Contrast 100 80 80 80
Brightness 45 50 50 50
Sharpness 55 50 50 50
Color 55 50 45 50
Tint 50 50 45 50
Tone norm cool1 warm2 cool1
I've not changed any setttings at all since i got the tv.
Lower contrast, and remember that you have to change it for each and every input, otherwise dynamic will be default for all sources (AV1/2, SVIDEO, COMP1/2, HDMI1/2,TV ANTENNA/CABLE).
kigasman 11-18-06, 03:56 PM Hi:
I have a new sony LCD XBR2 Bravia 32". I hate the analog picture it seems blurry. I am going to sell it on ebay because we hate the way standard Dish programing looks. I have tried Svideo conectors etc and it looks grainy and there are motion issues too, The reason I'm posting here is I decided perhaps A CRT would give me better clarity that I am used to. All my other tvs have been various generation CRT Sony xbr.
I was thinking of getting a tx-s3080wh samsung; So i have been reading the thread here and im not too encouraged. I've seen a lot of 3080 posts but mainly the r version. Are threre still all the geometery issures with the new version?
It sounds like the technology in the s-3080 and the s=3082 are different?
Which is better?
Should I have a better conrast and clarity in a CRT?
What is the best HDTV,built in tuner, less than 34" wide in everyones opinion?
Thanks or any advise
Kevin
WilliamRLBaker 11-18-06, 10:57 PM WOW.
This is dramatically different than the unedited post. This will be my last post on the matter. If I can't help you maybe someone else can.
Dynamic should never be used, regardless of values applied to other settings. Especially if one is suffering from artifacts as you have described. Custom is the best picture mode for all applications. I have never seen Contrast at these levels. I wouldn't set is any higher than 50-55. I guarantee running with Contrast at your current levels will shorten the life of the phosphors. If that makes the picture too dark raise Brightness. Sharpness simply adds more edge enhancement and emphasizes artifacts. Sharpness at 20 should be sufficient. Neither Tint nor Color should have any effect like those you've described and your settings are OK.
I believe you've indicated that you haven't yet calibrated the set. That would be good to do. More appropriate settings could go a long way towards mitigating the lines you're seeing when viewing component inputs. However, if they don't make your viewing acceptable then if I were you I'd call in a tech and ask to have the component inputs checked. I have this nagging gut feeling there may be a simple answer to all of this but I can't smoke it out from the communications we've had.
Good Luck.
well what i've posted is the default values, 100 contrast is what it came set as when i purchased it. It was the same with the tv before the one that died.
and yes its different cause im sick of talking about 480p but any ways.
I've been up for the past 6 hours doing nothing but changing the settings, I.E contrast and no matter what i do they still appear. as well i've went off and found the service menu code and got into the service menu. I'vechanged different settings and no problems yet but no improvements either.
I did find a gemometry issue though used one of the line test pictures in the service menu and there is only one geo issue so its not a big problem and its super small so its not distracting.
thanks for the help ill get back when i get around to geting samsung to give me an address for a tech that will come check this out. I wont have it done if its gonna cost me money, Ill just take the damn tv back instead of spending money having it fixed.
its still in the warrenty period and i purchased a 4 year bestbuy plan on it too.
P.S: forgot to ask how does one go about calibrating the best way? im not a tech and dont have a good eye for such things, so what would be the best way? like a dvd? or some thing that would help me fully calibrate this tv?
Edit: a new problem has arised, Whenever I switch it to component and its on the component channel for longer then 15 minutes an high pitched squeal can be heard. It does't happen on the tv channels, or the A/V or svideo only on the component...
kigasman 11-19-06, 04:44 PM I have a 32" Bravia XBR2 and the analog picture sucks; it looks great with HD loop at best buy. but a bit fuzzy with non hd digital dish network signals and analog over antenna. I am very disappointed and unsure if its a LCD thing or a HD / analog signal issue. I have also been looking at a Samsung slimfit tx-s3080wh as the 34" sony is a bit wide overall for me; but that seems to have lots of geometry issues, how are the Sony 34" CRT? Would it be better on a 27" 4x3 tv? My wife says the lcd bravia has got to go; her opinion is that if our old 27" sony xbr had a picture like that I would want to get it fixed--- and you know she is probably right! I'm afraid I'm going to make another mistake. At the stores they are all on hd loops and look marvelous. I don't want to sleep in the garage so please take the time to advise!!
Thanks,
Kevin
catamountalum200 11-19-06, 10:51 PM ok im kind of mad. i bought the samsung hdtv ver 3079 about a month ago. i got a ps3 but i just figured out that right now it will not up convert to 1080i only 720p but if the tv does not support 720p it sends it back down to 480p. does anyone know if i am doing anything wrong because i talked to someone and they said that any tv for the most part bought in the last 2 years should some how work with 720p does the 3079 go 480i/p/1080i. does it not have any 720 on it. i would think that if it has 1080i it would have some form of 720. i need help anyone know.
WilliamRLBaker 11-20-06, 06:37 AM ok im kind of mad. i bought the samsung hdtv ver 3079 about a month ago. i got a ps3 but i just figured out that right now it will not up convert to 1080i only 720p but if the tv does not support 720p it sends it back down to 480p. does anyone know if i am doing anything wrong because i talked to someone and they said that any tv for the most part bought in the last 2 years should some how work with 720p does the 3079 go 480i/p/1080i. does it not have any 720 on it. i would think that if it has 1080i it would have some form of 720. i need help anyone know.
this is actually a problem with teh ps3 it self, not the tv.
many people are complaining about it. If a tv doesn't support 720p but supports 1080i the ps3 refuses to upscale it to 1080i, instead it downscales it to 480p.
I'm not sure about a fix though i've not read of any thing, But i am pretty sure its being reported by alot of people as a ps3 problem and not a tv problem.
as for the 1080i and 720p i cannot answer im an idiot when it comes to tvs mostly. but yeah like i said its a ps3 problem not a tv problem that i know of.
this is actually a problem with teh ps3 it self, not the tv.
many people are complaining about it. If a tv doesn't support 720p but supports 1080i the ps3 refuses to upscale it to 1080i, instead it downscales it to 480p.
I'm not sure about a fix though i've not read of any thing, But i am pretty sure its being reported by alot of people as a ps3 problem and not a tv problem.
as for the 1080i and 720p i cannot answer im an idiot when it comes to tvs mostly. but yeah like i said its a ps3 problem not a tv problem that i know of.
This is a very serious shortcoming with the PS3. How they could let it get out the door this way is ludicrous.
Most modern HDTVs (last few years-those with digital tuners) autosense 480i, 480p. 720p and 1080i. Once "sensed," the tv then processes the incoming signal. If it matches the tv's native resolution it is passed on for display. If the signal does not match the set's native resolution it gets scaled to match it.
With regard to the PS3, when it outputs 720p the HD set processes the signal and scales it to 1080i for display. The PQ should be wonderful. What I believe gamers should be most worried about is latency, or delay. I'm not a serious gamer, but I understand signal delay is one of the worst sins a system can commit.
IMHO it's inexcuseable that Sony doesn't output both 720p and 1080i from the PS3. For those with modern sets this is an inconvenience (except for the latency), but for early adopters it's a nightmare. Folks that bought HD sets early-on probably have tvs that don't autosense 720p and don't have the technology to scale this format - so an incoming 720p signal gets you a blank screen. Nothing. It doesn't even get the chance to be scaled to 1080i. They would have to buy an external scaler to even use a PS3.
I find it unbelieveable that Sony missed this. I have to believe it was designed this way. I wonder how they're going to explain this one.
catamountalum200 11-20-06, 11:04 PM so will my tv work with the ps3 i mean the 3079 auto senses right when it comes to 720p so there for if a game is outputed in 720p then it will work on my tv or am i off base
with the 3082 its hard to determine, but its spec sheet usually mentions 720p and both component inputs in the back mention 720p and it plays 720p content...
But I need your help guys, I'm on my 2nd 3082 I returned the first after it died after 2 days, when i first got it home and used it had color blotches in all four corners, following advice from here i left it on for about an hour to 2 hours to see if it would mess up any more, no problems and the blotches disapeared by a miracle.
turned it off went to bed and next day it was dead totally dead wouldn't turn on or any thing. Took it back to the store got the same unit, this one is working fine no blotches at all, no geo issues.
The only problem is that on the component channels there are lightly visible verticle lines throughout the picture, I'm not sure if they show up in games I've not seen them, But in movies they appear, I've tried 16x9 widescreen movies, high def 480p movies, but they are all ways there.
was wondering if any one could help?
The problem you're describing sounds like the one I posted. Take a look at the pictures I submitted on page 52 of this thread. For me the lines appear on all inputs. It's harder to see while watching TV using S-Video but they are there, just need the right background to see them. Samsung shipped out my replacement and I should receive it in the next few days.
so will my tv work with the ps3 i mean the 3079 auto senses right when it comes to 720p so there for if a game is outputed in 720p then it will work on my tv or am i off base
From what I read on the net and the information in this thread your picture will be downscaled to 480p if the resolution of the game is 720p.
Sony dropped the ball on this one. They hyped the PS3 as the HD gaming console of this generation and then they do this. Hopefully a firmware update will correct this. Microsoft enabled 1080p on the 360 via an update so it could be the same for the PS3.
From what I read on the net and the information in this thread your picture will be downscaled to 480p if the resolution of the game is 720p.
Sony dropped the ball on this one. They hyped the PS3 as the HD gaming console of this generation and then they do this. Hopefully a firmware update will correct this. Microsoft enabled 1080p on the 360 via an update so it could be the same for the PS3.
Why would it downscale to 480p? His tv has an ATSC tuner and will upscale incoming 720p material to 1080i. The online data sheet states that his set has "Auto sensing component inputs (tunes & processes 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i)."
It's only the older HD sets that don't accept 720p that'll have this problem - here's a quote I found while researching just now:
"According to this thread in the Playstation - Home Theater Gaming forum... If you have a CRT HDTV that does not have a 720p > 1080i scaler, the PS3 will downconvert to 480p. It can not upconvert to 1080i."
I believe the 3079 is safe.
Why would it downscale to 480p? His tv has an ATSC tuner and will upscale incoming 720p material to 1080i. The online data sheet states that his set has "Auto sensing component inputs (tunes & processes 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i)."
It's only the older HD sets that don't accept 720p that'll have this problem - here's a quote I found while researching just now:
"According to this thread in the Playstation - Home Theater Gaming forum... If you have a CRT HDTV that does not have a 720p > 1080i scaler, the PS3 will downconvert to 480p. It can not upconvert to 1080i."
I believe the 3079 is safe.
I took another look at the info I previously read about the PS3. You're right, the TV should upscale to 1080i.
Thanks for pointing that out.
I took another look at the info I previously read about the PS3. You're right, the TV should upscale to 1080i.
Thanks for pointing that out.
You are welcome.
But what do you think this does to latency, or delay? I know this gets posted quite a bit - the issue of delay or lag. I assume that if a video signal from a game is forced through a scaler that there must be some measure of delay. Do you happen to know what this will mean to those who's tv's are not 720p native and will be scaling to 1080i, or even to 480p?
I'm guessing that folks with sets like the 3079 will be pleased that they can at least use the PS3, but I just wonder if the possibly induced delay will be almost as big a problem as no ability to scale.
Just wondering...
You are welcome.
But what do you think this does to latency, or delay? I know this gets posted quite a bit - the issue of delay or lag. I assume that if a video signal from a game is forced through a scaler that there must be some measure of delay. Do you happen to know what this will mean to those who's tv's are not 720p native and will be scaling to 1080i, or even to 480p?
I'm guessing that folks with sets like the 3079 will be pleased that they can at least use the PS3, but I just wonder if the possibly induced delay will be almost as big a problem as no ability to scale.
Just wondering...
Not sure. I have an XBOX 360 and I set the resolution to the native of the TV 1080i. I've also played at 720p. With the 360 at this setting the TV upscales it to 1080i. I never noticed any lag or latency at this setting. The PS3 is a different beast and the results could be different.
playstat88 11-21-06, 02:54 PM I have a ps3 and the 3079, I'm certainly no expert on delay or anything like that but I can tell you the tv DEFINITELY upscales the incoming 720p to 1080i and not down to 480p. I've been playing resistance for the past few days and it looks amazing. I don't know about extreme gamer's opinions who care about delay and stuff like that, but in my opinion I don't notice any problems at all. If you ask me, you're good to go!
This is very good news. The 3079 behaves with the PS3 and delay is not noticed.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I do feel sorry for the early adopters who are kinda left out of all this. It was their risk-taking that brings us forums like AVS and now they are aced out of enjoying the newest equipment unless they have external scalers.
TheTechGuy 11-21-06, 10:09 PM Before I go into my rant here on my first post in this forum here is the model I am about to complain about. Samsung 27" SlimFit HDTV (TXS2782H). When I search that model number here in the forums I get no results which is surprising after reading this thread for weeks.
OK let me first say I loved this TV. I wasn't looking to buy an HDTV just yet but I saw it on display at a CC store and it was surrounded by other Samsungs including HD LCD models and in my eyes this model stood out with the best picture by far. So I decided it was time to buy an HDTV but it had to fit a few specific needs for me before I bought one.
1. I wanted an HDTV that had a lot of inputs and this model fit that description perfect with 2 HDMI, 2 Component, 1 Composite and 1 SVideo. When I did the math it fit perfect with everything I wanted to plug into it.
2. Then there was the size of the whole TV itself not just the screen. I have a very elaborate entertainment center that I have spent many man hours building and will sacrifice the size of a TV for it. The size of this unit fit perfect into my available TV space.
3. The Price! When I first saw it was $600 then I saw it on sale for $580 and that had me drooling... then all of a sudden it was only $480 at CC. That price came with free delivery and no APR for 12 Months. I hit the buy button instantly
OK so the delivery guys show up in less than 48 hours from clicking the buy button online. They put it into the entertainment center, we all agree it's on and working. I sign, they leave. At this point I am in a rush to get to work since I took all morning off waiting for the delivery but I have a quick go at the remote anyway and the first thing I notice (how could you not) was a big bright green discoloration in the top left corner of the screen. I knew exactly what it was from my days working with CRT computer monitors so I turned the set off and went to work. While at work I rifled through the manual online and saw the whole BS about unplugging it for awhile then turning it on for a better degauss.
With all of that said I start the process of fixing the issue. As a computer tech who has a lot of patience I was not worried about fixing the issue. Right from day one I realized that it wasn't going to take long at all because after turning it on from a cold boot just a few times the bright green blob turned into a faded yellow blob that was only visible when there was white in that area and would turn turquoise when light blues were there. With that I was satisfied the problem would fix itself so I decided I would unplug the TV every time I was done with it until the color blob was gone. Well after week one there was no change in the yellow discoloration. That's when I found this forum....
I am in week 4 of owning this TV and I have taken my top notch entertainment center and have ripped it apart in so many farggin' ways it's crazy. I have spent so many man hours on trying to find the source of the magnetism that if I would have had to pay myself for the service I could own a giant plasma TV and a new car! I have read every post in this thread along with many others on other forums and I have tried everything possible to get rid of the blob and it isn't going away. In my professional opinion that very minimal time of green magnetism burned into the screen leaving a nice yellow piss stain (sometimes a brown tightey whitey s**t stain).
END RESULT!! I am sending it back tomorrow and putting my old Philips 25" CRT back in the same spot until I can find another HDTV that fits the three needs I mentioned in the beginning of this boringly long post. I am not a happy man! Samsung really needs to get there sh*t together and fix there CRT problems or stop selling them all together!
nyprimus4 11-21-06, 10:13 PM Any settings for the s3082wh yet?
It looks OK with 360 in 1080i and standard cable coming from ant in.
I'm in the process of shopping for one, and I might be getting the TXR3079 - for Xbox 360 gaming and DVD movies. I see a few of us here have that TV for the Xbox 360...how is it? Im coming from a 27" normal tube...do I get the awesome HD look with it?
I'm in the process of shopping for one, and I might be getting the TXR3079 - for Xbox 360 gaming and DVD movies. I see a few of us here have that TV for the Xbox 360...how is it? Im coming from a 27" normal tube...do I get the awesome HD look with it?
Even with the issues I've had I still think the 360 looks great on this TV. If you do plan on purchasing a Slimfit I would suggest trying to get one of the newer models 3082 as it seems to have less issues than the 3079 and I believe it has two HDMI ports instead of one.
WilliamRLBaker 11-22-06, 03:06 PM I'll try to be brief and answer as many as i can as well i don't know alot so bear with me.
To the whole 720p upscaling ps3 issue and multiple replies.
From what I understand this is an ps3 issue nothing to do with the tv, As well it only happens on older tvs, Tvs that support 480i, 480p,1080i but not 720p.
Because the ps3 has no internal scaler some thing wonky happens and instead of letting the tv if its capable upscaling the 720p content (the ps3 send the data out, but the tv wont upscale it for som reason) it downscales to 480p...
But it seems only to happen to tvs older then 3-4 years.
As well I dont know why sony let that out, But then again I dont know why sony let the ps3 out with its hdmi problems with some hdtvs....I guess it just happens...
as for lag yes lag or frame rate issues are a major problem for gamers specially on fps games, But from the limited knowledge I have upscaling doesn't cause enough lag if its doing it right to be a problem for any gamers really.
Atpat@
you'll have to let me know how that goes because im personally geting sick of this tv, I'm looking into an Syntax 32 inch lcd they seem to be cheap and get somewhat good reviews.
but mostly cause its 45lbs vs the 117 lbs of the samsung.
I nearly gave my self an hernia lifting that thing up the stairs the 2nd time....And I just cant do it again.
so give me a heads up if the new tv set you get has the problems.
and yes the problems seem simular but mine only happens on the component channels.
As well a new problem has arisen About 15 minutes after doing any thing on the component channels the tv will start to get a high pitched squal to it. Like electronic interferance but very loud.
it will go away after bout 5 minutes, but then will come back again and go away...ect
Its very annoying it happens on nothing else except the component channels.
nyprimus4 11-22-06, 04:22 PM Please anyone I need s3082wh/s3082whx settings.
I'll try to be brief and answer as many as i can as well i don't know alot so bear with me.
To the whole 720p upscaling ps3 issue and multiple replies.
From what I understand this is an ps3 issue nothing to do with the tv, As well it only happens on older tvs, Tvs that support 480i, 480p,1080i but not 720p.
Because the ps3 has no internal scaler some thing wonky happens and instead of letting the tv if its capable upscaling the 720p content (the ps3 send the data out, but the tv wont upscale it for som reason) it downscales to 480p...
But it seems only to happen to tvs older then 3-4 years.
As well I dont know why sony let that out, But then again I dont know why sony let the ps3 out with its hdmi problems with some hdtvs....I guess it just happens...
as for lag yes lag or frame rate issues are a major problem for gamers specially on fps games, But from the limited knowledge I have upscaling doesn't cause enough lag if its doing it right to be a problem for any gamers really.
Atpat@
you'll have to let me know how that goes because im personally geting sick of this tv, I'm looking into an Syntax 32 inch lcd they seem to be cheap and get somewhat good reviews.
but mostly cause its 45lbs vs the 117 lbs of the samsung.
I nearly gave my self an hernia lifting that thing up the stairs the 2nd time....And I just cant do it again.
so give me a heads up if the new tv set you get has the problems.
and yes the problems seem simular but mine only happens on the component channels.
As well a new problem has arisen About 15 minutes after doing any thing on the component channels the tv will start to get a high pitched squal to it. Like electronic interferance but very loud.
it will go away after bout 5 minutes, but then will come back again and go away...ect
Its very annoying it happens on nothing else except the component channels.
I contacted the trucking company and they have the TV, it will be delivered on Friday or Monday. I'll let you know how this TV pans out. This will be my third Slimfit. I contacted the store I purchased it from and told them what's going on. They asked me to take the third unit and if it's defective they will take it back and give me credit to put towards a different TV.
nyprimus4 11-22-06, 05:05 PM Anyone with settings for the s3082wh/s3082whx?
scotteru33 11-22-06, 08:13 PM I have messed with the service menu on my television, but I have set it back to the original settings. I also hit reset on accident one time. Is there a way to tell that I've been messing with the SM because I don't want my warranty to be voided. Samsung is having my television repaired so i was just curious.
WilliamRLBaker 11-23-06, 10:04 AM I contacted the trucking company and they have the TV, it will be delivered on Friday or Monday. I'll let you know how this TV pans out. This will be my third Slimfit. I contacted the store I purchased it from and told them what's going on. They asked me to take the third unit and if it's defective they will take it back and give me credit to put towards a different TV.
im probly gonna buy the lcd today or tomorow just to see how things go if every thing is fine with ur tv ill try taking back the samsung and geting one that works.
and ill get my refund on the lcd if not ill have a working lcd that doesn't have these problems i hope, and ill just get my refund on the samsung.
Im dreading lifting the samsung down stairs and back up >_<
bagofchips 11-26-06, 12:35 AM Have a TX-R3080WH and use analog cable. Have this new problem that the set seems to attempt to fine-tune a channel for 5-10 sec before settling down (static, vertical skittish, snow, black/white wavies, you name it) right after switching to the channel.
What the heck is this? This can't be normal, but I can't seem to find some kind of setting that triggers automatic fine tuning.
It's tough to search the entirety of this thread, but don't see this mentioned...
Thx
mnestheus 11-26-06, 12:54 PM I just brought home a brand new 27" SlimFit HDTV with an HT-Q45 Home Theater Receiver. While trying various DVD's I noticed that while displaying a white screen there was a dark tint in the lower right corner. Taking a closer look, I noted the same tint, though not as pronounced, in the other corners. Similarly, when the screen displays blue, I notice a violet tint in the same places. This occurs both while watching DVD's and cableTV.
I'm no expert on TV's, so I can only guess that this is due to one of the following:
1. That the built-in speakers are causing a bit of distortion.
2. The TV is defective and I need to haul it back up to Best Buy.
3. That's just how all of these TV's are.
I moved the surround speakers and that did not stop this occurence.
Any suggestions or advice? Many thanks!
nyprimus4 11-26-06, 06:35 PM I just brought home a brand new 27" SlimFit HDTV with an HT-Q45 Home Theater Receiver. While trying various DVD's I noticed that while displaying a white screen there was a dark tint in the lower right corner. Taking a closer look, I noted the same tint, though not as pronounced, in the other corners. Similarly, when the screen displays blue, I notice a violet tint in the same places. This occurs both while watching DVD's and cableTV.
I'm no expert on TV's, so I can only guess that this is due to one of the following:
1. That the built-in speakers are causing a bit of distortion.
2. The TV is defective and I need to haul it back up to Best Buy.
3. That's just how all of these TV's are.
I moved the surround speakers and that did not stop this occurence.
Any suggestions or advice? Many thanks!
My 30" s3082whx is having the same problems. In the bottom left corner there is a small distinct red, in the top right there is a noticeable blue tint and in the center there is just a huge yellow tint.
I called my bestbuy and they directed me to 1-888-Bestbuy, which I then called and talked to a very nice repair guy who was going to help me but his computer was screwy so he is calling me back within 2 business days to set up an appointment for a repair guy to come to my house and either fix it or maybe give me a new one(best case scenario). Mine I picked up last week refurbished at Bestbuy with the 4 year warranty.
slashdotted 11-26-06, 11:53 PM I just couldn't resist going out & getting myself one during this past weekend's sales (to be delivered by Best Buy in a week, I'll post impressions then) :D While I'm still going through the 50+ pages on this thread, would someone be kind enough to answer a couple of questions:
1) I bought the Monster HDTV calibration disc from the link on top of the page. Most people are talking about the AVIA or DVE disc - is the Monster similar?
2) How does one get into the service menu on this tv?
Thanks :) I'm new to the world of HDTV & coming from a 7yr old Sony XBR SD tv (which still has a great picture, btw).
im probly gonna buy the lcd today or tomorow just to see how things go if every thing is fine with ur tv ill try taking back the samsung and geting one that works.
and ill get my refund on the lcd if not ill have a working lcd that doesn't have these problems i hope, and ill just get my refund on the samsung.
Im dreading lifting the samsung down stairs and back up >_<
I received my new replacement and it has the exact same problem as the one it replaced. I tried moving it to a different room and only had my DVD connected via component. The problem was still there. I also tried using composite and S-Video cables for testing and the problem was still there. I took pictures this morning and forwarded them to Samsung. I'm waiting for the reply. I'm extremely discouraged and dissapointed with all this. I'm going to call the store manager where I bought the TV later this afternoon and see if he'll come through and take the TV back as he told me a couple of weeks ago.
raydidio 11-27-06, 11:47 PM Hello All,
A new 2782 is due to be deliverd tomorrow. I just found the AVS Forum and here, so have not gone through everything yet. I have seen good and bad on the net elsewhere. I thought it looked like maybe there was more happy customers than bad, but now I wonder from what I have seen. Can I expect geometry problems with this unit? Second, I saw a blog that was on the 30 inch that says to beware of serial numbers that have Y8, Y9, and YA in the middle. These are3 suppsoed to be the bad units in them. Is there anyway to tell by serial number which is really bad in the 2782 or the 2783 or is this just a crap shoot on whether you get a good one?
I avoided the Sony Wega 27 inch because some say that they go out in 14 to 24 months due to QC. The Sharp and Toshibas in the 27 inch tubes seem to have a lot of QC problems. Samsung is usually a good brand in TV and monitors. Is that wrong is tube TVs?
We have an 8 year old basic Sharp that is going south and just need a decent TV. HDTV is not necessary, althought the wife loved this one in Best Buy and I was stuck. I cannot afford an LCD TV at present.
Any and all help is appreciated. Thanks all.
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UPDATE: Sammy came today. First fired up with Direct TV and it started on The Weather Channel. Definite bowing. I went into the menu, set the picture mode from Dynamic to Standard, set the clock, and exited the menu. No Direct TV signal. Spent the next three hours reseting the box and the TV, used every bit of the menu, tried every trick I could think of and could not get a picture back on. Went back to BB tonight and chatted with Manager. They are picking it back up this week and bringing new Sony 27 with no ship charge. I knew of the problems with SlimFits, but thought would try it. Samsung makes very good computer monitors. However, they should have stayed with standard tube versus SlimFit on their TVs. Bye Sammy .
Greetings...I picked up a Samsung 3079 slimfit a few days ago as a cheap filler until a good 1080p TV comes along that works for me. I have pretty noticeable geometry problems, but also I have some dark splotches. I have attached some pics from a calibration DVD. Is this something I should contact Samsung about to see about repair/replacement? Or should I just return it? Are there any better options to this TV that don't weigh 190lbs? I only paid $600 for it. I am planning on putting this TV in the basement eventually for gaming/casual DVD usage once I get a nice 1080p set, so the thought of carrying a 200lb monster down stairs is not appealing (the 3079 is itself 120 lbs).
Thx for any info.
I received my new replacement and it has the exact same problem as the one it replaced. I tried moving it to a different room and only had my DVD connected via component. The problem was still there. I also tried using composite and S-Video cables for testing and the problem was still there. I took pictures this morning and forwarded them to Samsung. I'm waiting for the reply. I'm extremely discouraged and dissapointed with all this. I'm going to call the store manager where I bought the TV later this afternoon and see if he'll come through and take the TV back as he told me a couple of weeks ago.
I am so sorry. :mad:
This is extremely disappointing. You'd think Samsung would double-check units going out to replace bad ones if they're interested in retaining customers.
What this tells me is that they consider crts as throwaways, and that they're not going out of their way to assist crt customers. This is really beginning to color my opinion of the company. I'm not going to be comfortable recommending Samsung crts any longer.
SuperPickle 11-29-06, 08:49 PM Greetings...I picked up a Samsung 3079 slimfit a few days ago as a cheap filler until a good 1080p TV comes along that works for me. I have pretty noticeable geometry problems, but also I have some dark splotches. I have attached some pics from a calibration DVD. Is this something I should contact Samsung about to see about repair/replacement? Or should I just return it? Are there any better options to this TV that don't weigh 190lbs? I only paid $600 for it. I am planning on putting this TV in the basement eventually for gaming/casual DVD usage once I get a nice 1080p set, so the thought of carrying a 200lb monster down stairs is not appealing (the 3079 is itself 120 lbs).
Thx for any info.
Jeez, i would contact samsung, they would probably send you the newer 3082 model, and the geometry issues are not even close to that bad. what you have is totally herrendous, and you deserve a newer model with updated feautres and bug fixes!
Greetings...I picked up a Samsung 3079 slimfit a few days ago as a cheap filler until a good 1080p TV comes along that works for me. I have pretty noticeable geometry problems, but also I have some dark splotches. I have attached some pics from a calibration DVD. Is this something I should contact Samsung about to see about repair/replacement? Or should I just return it? Are there any better options to this TV that don't weigh 190lbs? I only paid $600 for it. I am planning on putting this TV in the basement eventually for gaming/casual DVD usage once I get a nice 1080p set, so the thought of carrying a 200lb monster down stairs is not appealing (the 3079 is itself 120 lbs).
Thx for any info.
What settings are you running the set at? If it is still at factory settings then you need to make some adjustments. First, take it off of Dynamic and use Custom. Set Contrast around 45-55, Brightness 55ish, Color around 45 or lower and Tint 50/50, Sharpness around 30, Color Temp at Neutral or Normal, any noise reduction Off. If you've already tried settings like these and you saw no improvement then I'd return the set.
Yeah I used the settings posted by you in fact on page 52 which were very close to what I came up with using the calibration DVD (thanks for that BTW). Other than that I did set tilt to 6/-6 (it was even worse before doing that). I did go into the service menu and try to improve the geometry on my own, but I didn't find any settings that would help the bizarre problems I was seeing so I set everything back to the factory levels (I wrote them all down before changing them). So are you saying I shouldn't contact Samsung to try and get a repair/replacement? I really like the TV if only the geometry could be straightened out (and the dark splotch fixed) and I'm not sure what else I would get if I just returned it.
Yeah I used the settings posted by you in fact on page 52 which were very close to what I came up with using the calibration DVD (thanks for that BTW). Other than that I did set tilt to 6/-6 (it was even worse before doing that). I did go into the service menu and try to improve the geometry on my own, but I didn't find any settings that would help the bizarre problems I was seeing so I set everything back to the factory levels (I wrote them all down before changing them). So are you saying I shouldn't contact Samsung to try and get a repair/replacement? I really like the TV if only the geometry could be straightened out (and the dark splotch fixed) and I'm not sure what else I would get if I just returned it.
You're very welcome for the (earlier) settings. Like you, I got them when I did my calibration.
By no means was I trying to tell you what to do. I just wanted to be sure that some of the anomalies weren't the result of excessive contrast, edge enhancement or driving color too hard.
I have found that many of the color (blotches) problems tend to resolve themselves rather quickly (first week or so if tv is allowed to run alot).
Regarding geometry issues - do you notice any problems when actually viewing tv, or are you just concerned because it looks bad on a test pattern. I've seen lots of folks get frustrated with the look of the test paterns when, in reality, there was no effect on viewing. I love my PQ, but when I put up a test pattern it's easy to see irregulatiries. I figure if the PQ looks as good as it does, I'm not going to worry about test pattern performance.
I am so sorry. :mad:
This is extremely disappointing. You'd think Samsung would double-check units going out to replace bad ones if they're interested in retaining customers.
What this tells me is that they consider crts as throwaways, and that they're not going out of their way to assist crt customers. This is really beginning to color my opinion of the company. I'm not going to be comfortable recommending Samsung crts any longer.
I'm sure my face said it all when I turned on the TV and the exact same problem appeared.
I agree with you. If a replacement is being sent it should be checked prior to shipping.
This time Samsung hasn't even offered to replace it. They want it shipped back to the QC centre so they can diagnose the problem. That would leave me without a TV for an unspecified amount of time. I said no to returning the TV. I suggested if they want to diagnose the problem then to do it on the set they just picked up, exact same problem. They came back saying sorry but they want this TV. I said no again and that I was going to try and return it to the store I bought it from. I haven't heard back from them since.
Funny, today I was troubleshooting a problem on a users PC and I noticed the users monitor had the same problem as my TV.
Well I noticed the geometry the minute I got it home on a widescreen movie (Cars). You could see the bend on the bottom and the left was lower than the right. It was also apparent on news/score tickers on the bottom of the screen. Also, on 4:3 material (I don't like stretching to 16:9) you can really see the curves on the side edges.
I was mostly wondering if I should explore having Samsung deal with the problems, or just return the set to the store. It sounds like some people have had luck with going the Samsung route. Returning it would be easiest, but I have not come up with a suitable alternative for this TV so I'm not sure what I'd buy after returning it. I really like the PQ on this set aside from those two issues and would be perfectly happy with it if those could be resolved. I think I'm going to call Samsung tonight and get the ball rolling. I still have a few weeks to return it. I'll be watching to see if the dark spot goes away as you suggested in the meantime. So far it hasn't changed at all (even after leaving it unplugged for an hour). What's interesting to me is that the geometry is noticeably bowed in the exact spot of that dark area. If you look back closely at the DSC_9025c.jpg image, you can see the lines bend a bit at the dark spot on the right/middle of the screen.
I'm sure my face said it all when I turned on the TV and the exact same problem appeared.
I agree with you. If a replacement is being sent it should be checked prior to shipping.
This time Samsung hasn't even offered to replace it. They want it shipped back to the QC centre so they can diagnose the problem. That would leave me without a TV for an unspecified amount of time. I said no to returning the TV. I suggested if they want to diagnose the problem then to do it on the set they just picked up, exact same problem. They came back saying sorry but they want this TV. I said no again and that I was going to try and return it to the store I bought it from. I haven't heard back from them since.
Funny, today I was troubleshooting a problem on a users PC and I noticed the users monitor had the same problem as my TV.
I don't see what's to be gained by giving it to Samsung. Especially since you pointed out that they have, in their hands, a set with the exact same symptoms (your returned unit).
If I were in your shoes, this would be the end of the line for me and Samsung. Man, that's really hard for me so say...
Well I noticed the geometry the minute I got it home on a widescreen movie (Cars). You could see the bend on the bottom and the left was lower than the right. It was also apparent on news/score tickers on the bottom of the screen. Also, on 4:3 material (I don't like stretching to 16:9) you can really see the curves on the side edges.
I was mostly wondering if I should explore having Samsung deal with the problems, or just return the set to the store. It sounds like some people have had luck with going the Samsung route. Returning it would be easiest, but I have not come up with a suitable alternative for this TV so I'm not sure what I'd buy after returning it. I really like the PQ on this set aside from those two issues and would be perfectly happy with it if those could be resolved. I think I'm going to call Samsung tonight and get the ball rolling. I still have a few weeks to return it. I'll be watching to see if the dark spot goes away as you suggested in the meantime. So far it hasn't changed at all (even after leaving it unplugged for an hour). What's interesting to me is that the geometry is noticeably bowed in the exact spot of that dark area. If you look back closely at the DSC_9025c.jpg image, you can see the lines bend a bit at the dark spot on the right/middle of the screen.
I have not seen much success coming from placing trouble calls to Samsung, reference recent posts from atpat. This guy has shown incredible patience, way more than I could have given. Samsung seems to punt, meaning they resort to unit replacements. Again, from an earlier post I mentioned that they seem to be treating their crt units as throwaways. I see every indication that they have "bagged" the crt market. I have reached the point that I can no longer recommend Samsung crts, new or replacement. And I would not suffer through working with Samsung on a repair of a crt unit. They make wonderful flat panel and DLP sets, but they've lost me with crts. I love my Samsung crt tv, but it comes from another time (3 years ago) when they were putting out real quality and reliability (pre-SlimFit).
I'm sorry to be so negative. Heck, I've been the Samsung crt evangelist. That's over now.
I don't see what's to be gained by giving it to Samsung. Especially since you pointed out that they have, in their hands, a set with the exact same symptoms (your returned unit).
If I were in your shoes, this would be the end of the line for me and Samsung. Man, that's really hard for me so say...
It is the end of the line for me and Samsung. This is the worse customer service experience I've had with any company. I'm curious if anyone else is dealing with the office of the president to resolve a service issue.
I'm sure it is hard for you to say. Your stance has always been a positive one.
I'll keep you posted how this turns out.
bagofchips 12-01-06, 02:15 AM bump. Nobody's heard of this?
Have a TX-R3080WH and use analog cable. Have this new problem that the set seems to attempt to fine-tune a channel for 5-10 sec before settling down (static, vertical skittish, snow, black/white wavies, you name it) right after switching to the channel.
What the heck is this? This can't be normal, but I can't seem to find some kind of setting that triggers automatic fine tuning.
It's tough to search the entirety of this thread, but don't see this mentioned...
Thx
This may have been covered at one time but I have no clear recollection of it. You must be sure to have performed the proper initial scan as outlined in the manual first. Some folks only do a cursory scan after setting-up and don't do it all. If you haven't done so, look at the manual and do the channel scan as documented. If you have done so then hopefully someone else with more knowledge will chime in.
zebras23 12-01-06, 08:22 PM My parents (both in their 70s) have the Sammy Slimfit 3081. In order to make life easier we arranged to get them the Harmmony 880 (they have DVD, DishDVR, VCR, Antenna for OTA HD). The person who has been helping them (they live a good distance from me) can not get the Harmony to switch the inputs. So now he has a switcher hooked up to Component 1 (I think), plus an Antenna connection.
Has anyone else had trouble getting the 880 to switch inputs on the Sammy Slimfit? It will turn everything on and off and run them, but won't do the inputs so everything is going through just the one.
Thanks for your assistance.
I recently purchased the above 27" tv and just tried it out today. It was to be a Christmas present for my son. I bought it at Sam's club. I was impressed by the picture and the price was right -- 350 after tax. So I got it. It was a refurb and the last one they had.
When I turned it on today I immediately noticed bowing on the left side, leaning to the left on top, and waviness on the right side.
I have the service manual for this tv but the defaults it shows are for the 29" and 32" only.
I was thinking that since it was a refurb that maybe some of the settings may be off.
I would greatly appreciate any assistance.
Thanks,
Don
Atcguy21 12-02-06, 03:06 PM Ok guys and any gals..I just bought 30" slimfit TSX3082. about 5 days ago. I've been reading these posts for about 2 hours now. I joined because I noticed a forum just for this Tv. I bought it open box from BB. $699. I know thats the price of new ones..but I got $150 Best Buy card for it being open box. anywayz..I think the PQ is great. There was nothing noticeably wrong with the picture, i was happy with it. but I found the service menu and didn't write anything down..I scrwed with the settings and now the picture is bowed, you can especially notice when you bring up the Dish Network channel guide menu..the menu lines are not straight. How do I fix this? Is it just a matter of playing with it until its right? Well another thing..it made a high pitched noise when I first bought but I called samsung and she said to unplug it and hold in the power button for like 30 seconds and then plug it back in and turn it on..it stopped for awhile but comes back every once in awhile. What I awas thinking of doing is..telling samsung its making the noise again and get a technician out here..and while he's here have him go through the service menu to fix the problem that I created about the bowing and all that. Alos, I'm going to buy that Avia Dvd to make the perfect the picture as much as possible. oh and will this Dvd help me with the bowing issues and all that? I feel kinda dumb..everyone on here is having bowing issues out of the box. I didn't have any but I created them..jeeez.
bagofchips 12-02-06, 03:50 PM bump. Nobody's heard of this?
Have a TX-R3080WH and use analog cable. Have this new problem that the set seems to attempt to fine-tune a channel for 5-10 sec before settling down (static, vertical skittish, snow, black/white wavies, you name it) right after switching to the channel.
What the heck is this? This can't be normal, but I can't seem to find some kind of setting that triggers automatic fine tuning.
It's tough to search the entirety of this thread, but don't see this mentioned...
Thx
This may have been covered at one time but I have no clear recollection of it. You must be sure to have performed the proper initial scan as outlined in the manual first. Some folks only do a cursory scan after setting-up and don't do it all. If you haven't done so, look at the manual and do the channel scan as documented. If you have done so then hopefully someone else with more knowledge will chime in.
Tried initial channel config and a few other things one more time. No dice. Called Samsung. Rolling a truck in 5 days. Will update... (still under warranty)
nyprimus4 12-02-06, 05:19 PM I picked up a $50 HDTV antenna from Radioshack today and hooked it up to my TXS3082WHX and the channels look so awesome in 720p and 1080i.
Atcguy21 12-02-06, 11:28 PM Yes. I agree. I bought an amplified indor antenna, basically they're fancy rabbit ears. I'm amazed at the PQ. We have like almost 50 over-the-air digital channels in my area. It's better than basic cable. Before the antenna I justh ave dish network with DVR reciever, no HD but I'm getting the HD receiver now that I can see what HD looks like on my TV.
nyprimus4 12-03-06, 12:41 AM Yes. I agree. I bought an amplified indor antenna, basically they're fancy rabbit ears. I'm amazed at the PQ. We have like almost 50 over-the-air digital channels in my area. It's better than basic cable. Before the antenna I justh ave dish network with DVR reciever, no HD but I'm getting the HD receiver now that I can see what HD looks like on my TV.
Football looks awesome but I'm looking at CSI Miami right now and this set definitely needs calibration.
I have these blotches of color on my screen though that aren't noticeable unless the picture is light colored. So I set up for Bestbuy to come monday to fix it, or maybe if they can't I'll get a new one.
Then I'll get AVIA and make it perfect. And also my friend that isn't satisfied with 360 HD DVD player might sell me his for $100-125.
This TV is awesome.
I recently purchased the above 27" tv and just tried it out today. It was to be a Christmas present for my son. I bought it at Sam's club. I was impressed by the picture and the price was right -- 350 after tax. So I got it. It was a refurb and the last one they had.
When I turned it on today I immediately noticed bowing on the left side, leaning to the left on top, and waviness on the right side.
I have the service manual for this tv but the defaults it shows are for the 29" and 32" only.
I was thinking that since it was a refurb that maybe some of the settings may be off.
I would greatly appreciate any assistance.
Thanks,
Don
Welcome to AVS Don!
A 29" tv? Where are you located? Samsung does not make a 29" tv for the US. Sometimes for international models, they'll indicate a screen size number like 32" when in the US it would be called a 30" screen because the US requires that advertisements can only list the "viewable" size. A 27" set in the US would be listed as 29" overseas. So your manual may well be for a 27" set.
It's entirely possible that the settings could be off on any refurbbed or open box sets.
I got lucky on my 27" Samsung set and had no vertical bowing so I'm not certain of the SM settings to adjust, but you might do some trial and error with those settings listed as deflection (possibly Def...). My set is a few years old and has a different SM than the newer ones, but even on mine one has to make such adjustments for both 1080i and 480p/i, if needed. So it's important what you were watching when you saw the bowing. (BTW - if the bowing was on the horizontal axis there's really nothing you can do, as this requires magnets being placed and adjusted on the backside of the tube). If you were watching non-HD, then it would be a deflection setting for 480i/p. HD would be a 1080i deflection setting. You can only edit SM values for the input and resolution you are watching. In other words, if you are watching HD at 1080i on input 5 then when you enter the SM, that's the only input and resolution that will be affected. If you wish to affect a SM setting for 480p, then you have to have the set in that mode before entering the SM. After making changes you turn off the tv to exit the SM. When turning the tv back on it will default to the Dynamic picture mode and some other settings may have been reset to default mode. BTW - you do not want the set on Dynamic. It's called "torch mode" and will ultimately shorten the life of the tube. Use Custom or Sport or Movie.
If you can get a service tech out before Christmas he s/b able to fix it as well, and it s/b under warranty at no cost to you.
Best of Luck!
Hey folks I just bought a new TX-S3082WH TV. Well what brings me here is my TV has some bows. I have read this entire thread it took about two days. I have spent about 3 hours trying to correct the bowing issue. The top bows up and the right side bows out. At this point I have not found the right combination of setting to fix this problem. I have been looking at getting one of those Calibration DVDs but will they really fix the problem or just maybe give me a better picture? I really like this TV but it bothers me to spend this much money on a TV that has what should be a simple fix. I would like to get HD signals to see what this TV can really do, but accroding to antenna.or I'm 47 miles from 5 HD stations and recommends a Large Antenna. My question is will I get a good signal from this far away? will it be worth it? Will a HD antenna from wal-mart that claims 60 miles make the grade?
I would rather try and fix the bowing issue instead of returning for another, because there are no other problems with it.
If anybody has any answers that would be great!!
pennywise1982 12-05-06, 07:00 PM Hi everyone,
i have the following problems with my slimfit 3079
- horizontal bowing
- appr. 2 inches at each side of the TV is blurry making it difficult to read text ... It looks like a loss of resolution on each side of the screen
Is there anything that i can do to fix those problems ? Is it possible to fix any of this via the SM ?
I can live with the 1st problem but the other is really hard to ignore.
Thanks
I've had my 30" Samsung Slimfit tv for almost 6 months and I've just started to notice what looks like a black smuge in the middle. Is this something that broke in the tv? Any suggestions on how I might get rid of it?
Hi everyone,
i have the following problems with my slimfit 3079
- horizontal bowing
- appr. 2 inches at each side of the TV is blurry making it difficult to read text ... It looks like a loss of resolution on each side of the screen
Is there anything that i can do to fix those problems ? Is it possible to fix any of this via the SM ?
I can live with the 1st problem but the other is really hard to ignore.
Thanks
These are two of the most difficult problems with crts in general, and the slimfit in particular.
The horizontal linearity (bowing) can only be fixed with the application of magnets to the backside of the tube by a trained technician.
The focus issue cannot be fixed. This is a direct result of the combination of the flat screen and the slim format. It used to be that crt tubes were curved or rounded. The result was that the distance from the gun at the back of the tube to the screen was the same distance at the center and the sides and corners. Focus was consistent across the face of the crt. With flat screens the distance between the gun and the center of the screen is different than it is to the sides. With widescreen, this was enhanced. Then, with the slim factor, it only got worse. This can tend ot make the "pixels" on the sides to appear bigger and irregular.
If you replace the set it's possible to get one where these problems don't "appear" as bad.
pennywise1982 12-06-06, 08:46 PM These are two of the most difficult problems with crts in general, and the slimfit in particular.
The horizontal linearity (bowing) can only be fixed with the application of magnets to the backside of the tube by a trained technician.
The focus issue cannot be fixed. This is a direct result of the combination of the flat screen and the slim format. It used to be that crt tubes were curved or rounded. The result was that the distance from the gun at the back of the tube to the screen was the same distance at the center and the sides and corners. Focus was consistent across the face of the crt. With flat screens the distance between the gun and the center of the screen is different than it is to the sides. With widescreen, this was enhanced. Then, with the slim factor, it only got worse. This can tend ot make the "pixels" on the sides to appear bigger and irregular.
If you replace the set it's possible to get one where these problems don't "appear" as bad.
Thanks for the help justsc.
So that means every flatscreen CRT has that focus problem ? Is the new model 3082 any better ?
My set is still under warranty but getting through all the hassle to get a replacement that has the same problems isn't really worth it.
Thanks for the help justsc.
So that means every flatscreen CRT has that focus problem ? Is the new model 3082 any better ?
My set is still under warranty but getting through all the hassle to get a replacement that has the same problems isn't really worth it.
Yes, to some degree every flatscreen crt has this issue. Some more than others.
Frankly, I learned to live with it on my Samsung 27" HD set. Of course, if I sit too close it's annoying, but if I sit back around 6 feet it's OK. I can't say if the 3082 is better.
Don't replace it if you think you can adjust to it. You are correct, it is a hassle, and there's no guarantee the next one will be better. Many have gone the replacement route only to find it was worse than the original set.
If these are the only two annoyances you are actually pretty lucky.
Cheers!
Greetings,
I'm wondering how to fix a problem with my screen.
When looking at the TV it's my right part of the screen and from the mid section of the screen down it bows out or like a big bubble. You can really see it in 4:3 mode. You can see it in 16:9 mode when there is a box line and it will bow out toward the speakers. This is a 3082 model TV
Thanks
Hi
I am new here and I bought a Samsung Slimfit from Sam’s Club model TX-S2779H back in July. It seems that I am lucky (or blind ;) ) because I have not noticed any problems with my unit. I do notice that standard definition broadcast looks just ok but that is to be expected. I don’t have a progressive scan DVD player but my DVD’s look great over component (a little grainy but again expected). I normally can see image imperfections in every HDTV that I have encountered at stores like Sears and Best Buy so I am pretty sure that I would be able to detect problems with my unit.
In any case, for the price, it is a great HDTV unit that displays standard def better than similarly priced LCD’s and is bigger than those so I am very happy with my purchase so far. I hope to get an uppconvert DVD player soon to test its HD capabilities.
Well, I've suffered with my own 079 and it's geo issues for the last eight months, knowing the day would come when I would pick up the phone and demand a replacement from Samy.
So I swung by BB and they had a couple of the 'new' TX-S3065WR Slimfit's on the floor. One was hooked up to a 360 rolling demo, the other Dish. The horizontal geo seems to have improved, but the vertical geo is even worse than the unacceptable levels of the 079/082. I set both floor models to 4/3 and the bowing and squiggly lines were horrific.
Didn't see the problem atpat documented earlier, but it obviously exists and anyone hoping that Samsung has got their act together with this new model is going to be bitterly disapointed....
the 3065 is a newer model??? I thought the 3082 was the newest 30" ? Am I wrong? What does the 3065 have....I've never heard of it....but I'm definitely not "in the know" with TVs.
Well, I've suffered with my own 079 and it's geo issues for the last eight months, knowing the day would come when I would pick up the phone and demand a replacement from Samy.
So I swung by BB and they had a couple of the 'new' TX-S3065WR Slimfit's on the floor. One was hooked up to a 360 rolling demo, the other Dish. The horizontal geo seems to have improved, but the vertical geo is even worse than the unacceptable levels of the 079/082. I set both floor models to 4/3 and the bowing and squiggly lines were horrific.
Didn't see the problem atpat documented earlier, but it obviously exists and anyone hoping that Samsung has got their act together with this new model is going to be bitterly disapointed....
Good luck with Samsung. I've been fighting with them for 3 months now and I'm still nowhere closer and getting this resolved. The experience I've had with Samsung pushed me to buy a new TV, a Sony KDF-46E2000. It came in yesterday. I'm not sure what will happen with the Slimfit but for now it's going back in the box.
gmansixfo 12-08-06, 10:53 PM I have been reading this thread for few hours trying to find the default deflection settings for my TXS3082W! Does anyone know them?
fromasta 12-09-06, 03:31 AM i am trying to find the default deflection for my 3082WH also. i wrote down a few of them but i didnt write them all for some dumb reason. if anyone has a good deflection preset or the defaults post em plz :D
ps - i did search and didnt find em
gmansixfo 12-09-06, 02:48 PM i am trying to find the default deflection for my 3082WH also. i wrote down a few of them but i didnt write them all for some dumb reason. if anyone has a good deflection preset or the defaults post em plz :D
ps - i did search and didnt find em
which ones did you write down?
gmansixfo 12-10-06, 08:40 PM Someone Please Help Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
coolricks 12-11-06, 02:35 AM I just bought the service manual online for the TX-R3079WH (30" Slimfit with wide speakers). If you need it to adjust geometry email me. I found there are many setting that should be "fixed" not adjusted. The other one posted on a previous page is not for this TV. Found out the hard way. Not an S62 chassis. Its a K62A chassis.
Jim
Hi Jim, is there a way you can email me the service manual? i have tx-r3079wh tv that went out, i replaced the Horizontal output Transistor but does not turn on and i have done some research and it is narrowing to the power supply but i need schem to repair it. thanks for your help.
I have been reading this thread for few hours trying to find the default deflection settings for my TXS3082W! Does anyone know them?
i am trying to find the default deflection for my 3082WH also. i wrote down a few of them but i didnt write them all for some dumb reason. if anyone has a good deflection preset or the defaults post em plz :D
ps - i did search and didnt find em
Sense these are CRT screens the setting will vary. This is why you write down your settings before you change them. Even though we have the same TV my settings will not work for you and vise versa.
I know there is a reset but not sure what that will do.
gmansixfo 12-11-06, 12:28 PM Sense these are CRT screens the setting will vary. This is why you write down your settings before you change them. Even though we have the same TV my settings will not work for you and vise versa.
I know there is a reset but not sure what that will do.
its worth a try :) but i guess its too late. i am going to return this tv and get the polaroid 3232 instead.
crypto1300 12-11-06, 03:21 PM Hi everyone,
I've been lurking around here for a few months trying to figure out how to fix a problem on my 3082.
For the post above, I've included my geometry settings. Which have given me a near perfect geometry during viewing, but not quite perfect on a test pattern.
I've also included a picture of the problem I'm having. It seems to be a rainbow effect on the left side of my screen. Using the custom settings on page 52, I've been able to reduce the effect, but it's not completely gone.
Can someone take a look at my settings and let me know if there might be a setting I can adjust to get rid of the rainbow effect.
crypto1300 12-11-06, 03:22 PM Here are more pictures.
crypto1300 12-11-06, 03:23 PM And, the last of my settings...
gmansixfo 12-11-06, 03:37 PM thx dude, well i wont be using those settings anymore because my 3082 is in its box and on its way back to circuit city..
crypto1300 12-11-06, 04:36 PM Oh well, probably wouldn't have helped much anyway. Let us know how the new set is.
mengelle 12-13-06, 04:42 PM Hi everyone,
I've been lurking around here for a few months trying to figure out how to fix a problem on my 3082.
For the post above, I've included my geometry settings. Which have given me a near perfect geometry during viewing, but not quite perfect on a test pattern.
I've also included a picture of the problem I'm having. It seems to be a rainbow effect on the left side of my screen. Using the custom settings on page 52, I've been able to reduce the effect, but it's not completely gone.
Can someone take a look at my settings and let me know if there might be a setting I can adjust to get rid of the rainbow effect.
Hi crypto1300, your problem with the raibow effect is caused by a magnetic field.
In the store where I bought my SlimFit, i see the same effect when one off the guys put the TV over an Audio System box.
I believe that if you disconnect the television set by 4 hours, and reconnecting it (without turning on) a desmagnetized coil will be activated. (I read it in other forum)
Sorry for the english...
Kontrollverlust 12-13-06, 06:01 PM Just a question regarding the TX-3082WH. I've had it for a little while now and been relatively happy with it. My problem is that I've got my Xbox 360 hooked to it and I notice it cuts off about a half inch of space on both sides of the screen (top and bottom seem to be fine) Is this something I could adjust with the service menu?
crypto1300 12-14-06, 12:34 PM Hi crypto1300, your problem with the raibow effect is caused by a magnetic field.
In the store where I bought my SlimFit, i see the same effect when one off the guys put the TV over an Audio System box.
I believe that if you disconnect the television set by 4 hours, and reconnecting it (without turning on) a desmagnetized coil will be activated. (I read it in other forum)
Sorry for the english...
I'm not sure that is the problem. I've had it unplugged for upto 12 hours and the problem still persist. I've also rearranged all my home entertainment devices, so that I could rule out interference. I'm at a loss.
It still sounds like interference to me, but I'm not sure what else you can do to resolve it.
Have you tried viewing the tv without any other devices attached (or even powered up)? Try this and see if the pattern remains. Be sure nothing else is connected except power and the picture source (e.g. antenna, cable or sat box - and be sure the attached boxes are as far from the set as possible with no wires crossing).
If the problem goes away, then start adding back in the other devices one at a time until the culprit is exposed. If the problem remains even with all other devices off, then I recommend contacting your reseller for an exchange (if available) or to place a trouble call.
Have you tried placing the tv on another part of the room, or in another room? Or even rotating the tv 180 degrees? Believe it or not, the earth's electromagnetic field comes into play at times. Try some moving around and rotating and see what you find.
Also, have you tried different cabling?
Archidave 12-14-06, 04:30 PM That's correct, and grunting is a good word for it. ;)
My TXS3082 Grunts too- I hate it. The 3079 I had before this did not grunt. Did they add a degauss to the new one?
ALSO- when I first turn it on, after the grunt, the picture is still black. I press the power again and it turns on. Is this what yours does? Again, the old one did not do that. This does not happen consistantly though (would be hard to show a service guy).
Thanks,
crypto1300 12-14-06, 05:09 PM Have you tried placing the tv on another part of the room, or in another room? Or even rotating the tv 180 degrees? Believe it or not, the earth's electromagnetic field comes into play at times. Try some moving around and rotating and see what you find.
Also, have you tried different cabling?
Hi,
Yes, I've even moved it from one house to another. I've tried every cable possible, component, HDMI, s-video, composite. It doesn't seem to matter.
Hi,
Yes, I've even moved it from one house to another. I've tried every cable possible, component, HDMI, s-video, composite. It doesn't seem to matter.
So this is showing up on both broadcast material and DVD?
If so, then I can't think of anything you haven't tried. It's time to place that dreaded service call, I guess.
crypto1300 12-14-06, 07:41 PM So this is showing up on both broadcast material and DVD?
If so, then I can't think of anything you haven't tried. It's time to place that dreaded service call, I guess.
Yeah, it doesn't matter what source. Everything from DVD's to DVR's to OTA with every cable imaginable.
I have actually been able to reduce the effect somewhat with settings I found on this very thread, by someone with a problem that was similar. The problem is still there, but not as noticable.
plughplover 12-14-06, 08:31 PM Well, looks like my 3080, after ~13mo, just gave up the ghost. Try to turn it on, the led blinks a few times, I get the little tones, then the led goes back solid.
The 'rainbow' effect people have talked about - it is related to horizontal deflection, and there is another setting I don't remember off-hand, but basically sets when the beam gets blanked. My take on it is that when the beam goes off-screen, it needs to be blanked else you get scatter of off-screen electrons that causes the rainbow.
As my set has aged, I've repeatedly had to reduce the horizontal gain to get rid of the rainbows - which struck me as odd. I'd expect a deteriorating power supply to make deflection less, not greater (but I'm not a tv tech)...
But tonight it just quit; was watching it, screen blanked, and that's all she wrote.
I may have a chance at still getting warranty service, as I had calls against it earlier in it's life. But I it may just be time to write off a bad investment.
Bummer...
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Well, I unplugged it for an hour or so, plugged it back in, and it 'booted' :rolleyes:
Still going to put a call into Samsung tomorrow, just in case... :(
On the 'rainbow' thing.
My set's H-AMP setting when I got it was 43; service manual says 39, and over the past year I've repeatedly had to lower it, now down to 24.
The other setting(s) I was talking about are CXA LEFT BLK and CXA RIGHT BLK
New, the settings were 28 left, 20 right, which is same as service manual. In order to help fight the rainbow, I increased CXA RIGHT BLK up to 28 also. If you want to see the effect of these, set H-AMP low enough that you actually see the edges of the scan (may want to tweak H-SHIFT), then raise/lower the BLK value.
-edit-again------
arghh - shut itself down again, won't turn on again :mad:
-edit-yet-again-
they extended my original warranty 90 days and will fully cover the issue :)
mal7014 12-15-06, 11:17 AM My TXS3082 Grunts too- I hate it. The 3079 I had before this did not grunt. Did they add a degauss to the new one?
ALSO- when I first turn it on, after the grunt, the picture is still black. I press the power again and it turns on. Is this what yours does? Again, the old one did not do that. This does not happen consistantly though (would be hard to show a service guy).
Thanks,
The 3082 does degauss on start-up. I also experience having to press the power button a second time to actually turn the unit on (not all the time but most times).
Yeah, it doesn't matter what source. Everything from DVD's to DVR's to OTA with every cable imaginable.
I have actually been able to reduce the effect somewhat with settings I found on this very thread, by someone with a problem that was similar. The problem is still there, but not as noticable.
Would you be willing to share what you adjusted to get the improvement?
Well, looks like my 3080, after ~13mo, just gave up the ghost. Try to turn it on, the led blinks a few times, I get the little tones, then the led goes back solid.
The 'rainbow' effect people have talked about - it is related to horizontal deflection, and there is another setting I don't remember off-hand, but basically sets when the beam gets blanked. My take on it is that when the beam goes off-screen, it needs to be blanked else you get scatter of off-screen electrons that causes the rainbow.
As my set has aged, I've repeatedly had to reduce the horizontal gain to get rid of the rainbows - which struck me as odd. I'd expect a deteriorating power supply to make deflection less, not greater (but I'm not a tv tech)...
But tonight it just quit; was watching it, screen blanked, and that's all she wrote.
I may have a chance at still getting warranty service, as I had calls against it earlier in it's life. But I it may just be time to write off a bad investment.
Bummer...
-edit-------------
Well, I unplugged it for an hour or so, plugged it back in, and it 'booted' :rolleyes:
Still going to put a call into Samsung tomorrow, just in case... :(
On the 'rainbow' thing.
My set's H-AMP setting when I got it was 43; service manual says 39, and over the past year I've repeatedly had to lower it, now down to 24.
The other setting(s) I was talking about are CXA LEFT BLK and CXA RIGHT BLK
New, the settings were 28 left, 20 right, which is same as service manual. In order to help fight the rainbow, I increased CXA RIGHT BLK up to 28 also. If you want to see the effect of these, set H-AMP low enough that you actually see the edges of the scan (may want to tweak H-SHIFT), then raise/lower the BLK value.
-edit-again------
arghh - shut itself down again, won't turn on again :mad:
-edit-yet-again-
they extended my original warranty 90 days and will fully cover the issue :)
WOW!
And over the holidays no less. :mad:
I hope you have another set so you can get some enjoyable viewing over the holidays.
Best of Luck! ;)
crypto1300 12-15-06, 01:57 PM Would you be willing to share what you adjusted to get the improvement?
Contrast 43
Brightness 48
Sharpness 10
color 46
tint=44/56
I'm sorry, I should've asked my question better.
Along with these end numbers, what were your starting numbers that brought you the undesireable pattern?
crypto1300 12-15-06, 02:30 PM I'm sorry, I should've asked my question better.
Along with these end numbers, what were your starting numbers that brought you the undesireable pattern?
Oh,
I was using the built in settings such as standard, dynamic, etc.
OK.
The "out-of-the-box" default picture mode is called "Dynamic." This should almost never be used. The level of Contrast will, over time, shorten the life of the tube. All settings are driven way too hard in Dynamic mode which is why many refer to it as "torch mode."
I prefer Custom since it has the least in overdriven settings in both the user menu and in the service menu. The only two settings I see that you might want to adjust are Color and Tint. Using Avia I have settled on 39 for Color. But I know of others comfortable with higher values, but 46 seems high. This pattern that's annoying you is all about color (and also contrast and edge enhancement). I suggest trying Color at a lower value. You are driving green awfully hard in Tint, with reference to Red. I'm sure you have a good reason for this, but you should know that driving one significantly harder than the other can worsen artifacts. Also, try running with Noise Reduction at OFF (if you have that setting). Use the most normal Color Temp as well.
Try some of these ideas and see what happens.
crypto1300 12-15-06, 09:57 PM OK.
The "out-of-the-box" default picture mode is called "Dynamic." This should almost never be used. The level of Contrast will, over time, shorten the life of the tube. All settings are driven way too hard in Dynamic mode which is why many refer to it as "torch mode."
I prefer Custom since it has the least in overdriven settings in both the user menu and in the service menu. The only two settings I see that you might want to adjust are Color and Tint. Using Avia I have settled on 39 for Color. But I know of others comfortable with higher values, but 46 seems high. This pattern that's annoying you is all about color (and also contrast and edge enhancement). I suggest trying Color at a lower value. You are driving green awfully hard in Tint, with reference to Red. I'm sure you have a good reason for this, but you should know that driving one significantly harder than the other can worsen artifacts. Also, try running with Noise Reduction at OFF (if you have that setting). Use the most normal Color Temp as well.
Try some of these ideas and see what happens.
I will try your recommendations as soon as I get home. But what do you think about this statement?
"The 'rainbow' effect people have talked about - it is related to horizontal deflection, and there is another setting I don't remember off-hand, but basically sets when the beam gets blanked. My take on it is that when the beam goes off-screen, it needs to be blanked else you get scatter of off-screen electrons that causes the rainbow."
From the post above. Do you think that it could be adjusted by deflection in the SM?
plughplover 12-16-06, 01:48 PM crypto1300 - the 'rainbow' effect I was referring to was exactly like the pics you posted, except mine was on the right side. H-AMP, possibly H-SHIFT, and in your case CXA LEFT BLK is what I'd suggest you tweak (after, of course, writing down the initial settings!)
justsc - the local service shop will be by next week to pick it up, but said they've got a month's backlog; so I went out today and bought the LG slim set for the living room. When I get the 3080 back, it'll go in my bedroom. I bought the 80 vs the side-speaker models (79, 82) because it would fit in an armoire I have in there, at some point 'down the road'; didn't figure it would only be a year later I'd be relegating it to the bedroom :(
TrueBlueLS 12-16-06, 03:03 PM Well I guess thread rules out my decision on getting either a 3080 or a 3082 for my room. Now I wish I would have bought a CRT last year when they were still somewhat plentiful.
crypto1300 12-16-06, 03:36 PM crypto1300 - the 'rainbow' effect I was referring to was exactly like the pics you posted, except mine was on the right side. H-AMP, possibly H-SHIFT, and in your case CXA LEFT BLK is what I'd suggest you tweak (after, of course, writing down the initial settings!)
justsc - the local service shop will be by next week to pick it up, but said they've got a month's backlog; so I went out today and bought the LG slim set for the living room. When I get the 3080 back, it'll go in my bedroom. I bought the 80 vs the side-speaker models (79, 82) because it would fit in an armoire I have in there, at some point 'down the road'; didn't figure it would only be a year later I'd be relegating it to the bedroom :(
Thanks,
Adjusting H-AMP made the rainbow completely disappear. The set is definitely looking good now. Absolutely great image quality.
Just a couple tools that might help people stuck in Slimfit Hell.
Here's the 3079 service manual, with the default settings included:
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A 4:3 grid pattern you can burn to cd/dvd and pop in you 360/ps3/whatever. Comes in handy for minimizing the geo issues associated with being forced to watch 480P DTV in 4:3 on these sets:
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I've decided against handing Samsung any more green to make this POS go away. Judging from the dead pixles and backlight bleed and poor response time (DNIE FTL) I see on their LCD sets and the aliasing and poor IQ of their plasma sets, it's becoming obvious that their entire line suffers from horrendous QC and design problems.
I'll pick up a Pioneer plasma or an SXRD after XMAS and toss this loser in my office (hey, the 3079 *does* have a nice cabinet. It even says HDTV on it!)
Sorry, but this forum wont let me post links? Nice....
plughplover 12-17-06, 01:38 AM re: my power problem - was googling around and came across this VERY interesting post here (http://geekswithblogs.net/gaijin42/archive/2006/08/17/samsung_slimfit_hdtv_geometry_power_turn_off_service_manual_ TX_R3079WH_best_buy.aspx) In particular All of the sudden, the geometry started getting progressively worse - with the picture bowing out to the side. In 4:3 mode, the picture almost filled the entire screen, and in 16:9 mode, the edge of the picture was significantly off the screen.
To top it off, the TV started turning itself off at seemingly random times. Well, not so random. At the worst possible times actually. Pretty much every time there was a gunshot, or explosion, or loud scream, or anything else exciting and climactic on the screen. After it turned itself off, I would have to wait a few minutes, and then I could turn it back on.
Apparently some models of the slimfit have the incorrect resistors/capacitors/something electric in them. This causes power fluctuations (causing the geometry problem), and eventually as a self-protection method, the TV turns itself off to avoid surges. The tech gave me the serial number pattern of the affected TVs. If your serial number has a Y in the middle, followed by an 8, 9, or A, you are affected. so Y8, Y9, or YA for the pattern deficient out there.
The bad timing of the power-off occured because additional power is needed to show/hear the explosions etc, and that was enough to push it over the edge each time.
The fix only took a few minutes, he popped the back off the TV, yanked some stuff, and soldered something else back in.
My set, that has had the progressive problem with horizontal deflection, and has started turning itself off, has a "Y9" in the serial number!
plughplover 12-17-06, 10:10 AM It seems logical that Samsung would have some kind of "repair tip" / "service notice" (what else might they call it?) database for their 'authorized service' folk to use.
Anyone know anything about it? In particular, how to get the info for the above problem?
MetalMedley 12-18-06, 01:11 AM I just got a 2782 a week ago and Noticed some stuff I wasn't used to when I had my old Analog CRT TV and wanted to ask a few questions. Is it normal for OTA Digital Channels/HD Channels to have a video and audio delay over Regular Analog OTA Channels? I have My 2782 in my room and another Analog TV in the next room and are close together (Both are hooked up to the same antenna on my roof) and I notice the Analog TV that is on Analog Channels is 4-5 seconds ahead while if I'm on the same channel on My 2782 but viewing the channel in Digital it is 4-5 seconds behind. If both TV's are on Analog Channels they are in sync.
Also I've been noticing that every once in a while when watching a Digital Channel the audio pops & Clicks sometimes (1 second pop or crackle). I notice this when a commercial is over an it goes back to regular programming and this happens on a one channel during some parts of the show plus. It also happens on some channels during the show but not very often.
If anybody has any answers please let me know as I want to know if this is a nornal problem or something is wrong.
Punchinelli 12-19-06, 12:28 PM Also I've been noticing that every once in a while when watching a Digital Channel the audio pops & Clicks sometimes (1 second pop or crackle). I notice this when a commercial is over an it goes back to regular programming and this happens on a one channel during some parts of the show plus. It also happens on some channels during the show but not very often.
If anybody has any answers please let me know as I want to know if this is a nornal problem or something is wrong.
Funny enough, I was searching the interweb for a resolution to this exact problem and came upon this forum and decided to register. I bought my 27" Samsung Slimfit HDTV about 4 months ago. I wish I could take it back.
Since I purchased it, I have had the following problems:
The sides of the screens bow in and out in a wave-motion. You can especially see it while watching digital broadcasts.
A green blob in the left side of the screen. It's not too noticeable, until you watch something with lighter colors, and then it turns that color a shade of green. Unacceptable. I've moved ALL of my electronic components away from the screen, let the TV "cool off" overnight unplugged to degauss, and it is still there. Won't go away.
And finally, the same issue you have reported, MetalMedley. While watching digital TV, the commercials and sometimes during TV shows the TV pops and snaps like it has a bad connection or something. All of my connections are secure. This is very annoying.
What should I do about these problems? Can the Samsung "technicians" actually fix these problems? Or will I miss my TV for a month, and be given back a defective TV? Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance guys. These forums are great.
I think since you paid big bucks for supposedly a reputable TV, that you should demand your MONEY BACK . A NEW TV that is purchased is supposed to work without annoyances! I believe that if they do not give you satifaction PROMPTLY that you should get an attorney to sue for damages plus mental anguish! TVs are suppose to be pleasurable not aggravating. SAMSUNG must be willing to stand behind their products IF they are truely interested in their customers welfare. You PAID them with REAL money and they , in turn, must provide you with a REAL TV. That was the trade......................................
REAL MONEY for a REAL TV.
I feel very lucky to have a 3082 that really works fine.....at least now. I just hope I get some good life expectancy out of it. I love my Sammy 3082. I feel for you out there that have not had the luck I have had.....it actually shouldn't be based on luck though.
I will try your recommendations as soon as I get home. But what do you think about this statement?
"The 'rainbow' effect people have talked about - it is related to horizontal deflection, and there is another setting I don't remember off-hand, but basically sets when the beam gets blanked. My take on it is that when the beam goes off-screen, it needs to be blanked else you get scatter of off-screen electrons that causes the rainbow."
From the post above. Do you think that it could be adjusted by deflection in the SM?
Looks like plughplover has provided you with a definitive fix. ;)
I am so glad plughplover has found the solution. I'm going to include his fix in my list of solution in my Palm Pilot for next time someone asks about it.
Good for You! ;)
crypto1300 - the 'rainbow' effect I was referring to was exactly like the pics you posted, except mine was on the right side. H-AMP, possibly H-SHIFT, and in your case CXA LEFT BLK is what I'd suggest you tweak (after, of course, writing down the initial settings!)
justsc - the local service shop will be by next week to pick it up, but said they've got a month's backlog; so I went out today and bought the LG slim set for the living room. When I get the 3080 back, it'll go in my bedroom. I bought the 80 vs the side-speaker models (79, 82) because it would fit in an armoire I have in there, at some point 'down the road'; didn't figure it would only be a year later I'd be relegating it to the bedroom :(
plughplover:
Great work! ;)
These are the kinds of solutions we need.
I see in another post that you now have the intermittent "powering off" issue. Will this never end? I am SO disappointed with Samsung.
I think since you paid big bucks for supposedly a reputable TV, that you should demand your MONEY BACK . A NEW TV that is purchased is supposed to work without annoyances! I believe that if they do not give you satifaction PROMPTLY that you should get an attorney to sue for damages plus mental anguish! TVs are suppose to be pleasurable not aggravating. SAMSUNG must be willing to stand behind their products IF they are truely interested in their customers welfare. You PAID them with REAL money and they , in turn, must provide you with a REAL TV. That was the trade......................................
REAL MONEY for a REAL TV.
AMEN!
I can't state strongly enough how disappointed I have become in Samsung's crt products of late and their service towards these customers with problems.
I am very glad for you that your set seems to have escaped the ravages of poor quality. My older Samsung set (TX-P version from 3 years ago) is fantastic. Something has obviously happened over the last couple of years. If Samsung has bagged crts for the more lucrative flat panel and DLP market then they should pull their crts off of showroom floors, OR treat these unlucky customers with more respect.
I can be a very loyal customer, but I can also be a highly committed adversary. It's come to the point that I will not recommend Samsung crts (actually got there months ago). But it goes further than that. CRT customers with problems are being very poorly treated, for the most part. How can we believe that customers of other Samsung display technologies won't suffer the same fate when their kind of display begins to lose ground to something newer? I think there's something deeply wrong within this organization. And they're claiming serious market share advantage now over Sony. This would be an awful time for them to get tagged as being unresponsive to customer complaints. I believe there's alot at stake for them here.
Sorry for the rambling...
Funny enough, I was searching the interweb for a resolution to this exact problem and came upon this forum and decided to register. I bought my 27" Samsung Slimfit HDTV about 4 months ago. I wish I could take it back.
Since I purchased it, I have had the following problems:
The sides of the screens bow in and out in a wave-motion. You can especially see it while watching digital broadcasts.
A green blob in the left side of the screen. It's not too noticeable, until you watch something with lighter colors, and then it turns that color a shade of green. Unacceptable. I've moved ALL of my electronic components away from the screen, let the TV "cool off" overnight unplugged to degauss, and it is still there. Won't go away.
And finally, the same issue you have reported, MetalMedley. While watching digital TV, the commercials and sometimes during TV shows the TV pops and snaps like it has a bad connection or something. All of my connections are secure. This is very annoying.
What should I do about these problems? Can the Samsung "technicians" actually fix these problems? Or will I miss my TV for a month, and be given back a defective TV? Any suggestions?
Thanks in advance guys. These forums are great.
Did you get an extended warranty?
If so, demand a refund (if you can), and get something else. If there's any chance you can get away with your money, take a look at the Sony 34" widescreen crt (KD-34XBR970). It's the only one left that I will recommend. It's bigger, and so much better, including reliable. Some find the size too much. To each his own.
I fought with Samsung for 3 long months. The two replacements I received were defective out of the box with the exact same issue. I posted pictures earlier in this thread. Samsung picked up my last replacement on Saturday and will issue me a full refund including taxes. I can't wait to get the cheque so that I can finally put Samsung behind me.
I would suggest to anyone having a service issue to open a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. They won't resolve the issue for you but they will help the communication/resolve process.
Punchinelli 12-19-06, 05:10 PM Did you get an extended warranty?
If so, demand a refund (if you can), and get something else. If there's any chance you can get away with your money, take a look at the Sony 34" widescreen crt (KD-34XBR970). It's the only one left that I will recommend. It's bigger, and so much better, including reliable. Some find the size too much. To each his own.
No, I didn't purchase an extended warranty. I didn't feel the need to, considering my last two television purchases were RCA and JVC, and neither have crapped out on me yet. When an RCA and JVC work flawlessly and this Samsung does this, that says a lot. So, should I have Samsung come out and attempt to fix my television? What's the consensus? Are they usually able to even fix these problems?
Thanks for the help.
No, I didn't purchase an extended warranty. I didn't feel the need to, considering my last two television purchases were RCA and JVC, and neither have crapped out on me yet. When an RCA and JVC work flawlessly and this Samsung does this, that says a lot. So, should I have Samsung come out and attempt to fix my television? What's the consensus? Are they usually able to even fix these problems?
Thanks for the help.
Yes.
Place a call to Samsung. Have them come out and give you an estimate for the fix.
I do recommend extended warranties on HD sets. I know that I will be doing so for some time until the technologies mature enough to warrant my trust.
Punchinelli 12-19-06, 09:00 PM Yes.
Place a call to Samsung. Have them come out and give you an estimate for the fix.
I do recommend extended warranties on HD sets. I know that I will be doing so for some time until the technologies mature enough to warrant my trust.
Sorry for all the questions, but thank you so much for your replies.
One more question: by "estimate," do you mean I have to pay for the fix? Or by "estimate," you mean "what all needs to be done to fix it (paid for by Samsung)"?
Thanks.
Sorry for all the questions, but thank you so much for your replies.
One more question: by "estimate," do you mean I have to pay for the fix? Or by "estimate," you mean "what all needs to be done to fix it (paid for by Samsung)"?
Thanks.
I had forgotten you were still under warranty.
So, now if I understand correctly, your set is 4 months old? So you still are under the mfg warranty and the reseller's as well.
When a set is no longer under warranty I always describe the problem over the phone and get an unofficial estimate on whether or not the tech thinks it can be fixed and also a guess at price. That way if the tech says no way, I can't fix that, then I don't incur a charge for them just coming out.
But since you're under warranty it's no big deal. Still describe the problem to the repair type so they know what they're up against and can come better prepared, but the cost should be theirs.
jojogabosh 12-21-06, 03:58 AM Thanks plughplover, I also had problems with the rainbow on the right side of the screen, but it was only bothersome when watching a DVD. I adjusted the CXA RIGHT BLK up 2 and it went away. Will this have any long term negative effects on the TV?
plughplover 12-21-06, 11:12 AM Thanks plughplover, I also had problems with the rainbow on the right side of the screen, but it was only bothersome when watching a DVD. I adjusted the CXA RIGHT BLK up 2 and it went away. Will this have any long term negative effects on the TV?
Don't see any reason why it would, but I'm not a TV design engineer.
FYI - the relationship of the setting are:
H-AMP - this is the horizontal overscan setting. CRT TVs are meant to draw the picture slightly larger than the visible screen. This controls how much wider. Many people using setup discs (Avia, DVE) will reduce H&V overscan (but you want to maintain correct aspect ratio - circles should be round, squares not rectangular)
H-SHIFT - this controls horizontal centering. Again using test discs, you might tweak this to get am image centered horizontally in the visible screen.
CXA LEFT/RIGHT BLK - this controls timing circuitry that turns the beam on and off at the start and end of the visible horizontal scan. This should occur in the offscreen portion of the scan.
The rainbows seem to occur when bright things are being drawn TOO FAR off screen. Based upon the descriptions above, you can see how each of them could contribute to this. To much overscan - more picture being drawn off screen; picture not centered - more being drawn offscreen on one side; beam turned on/off too soon/late - ditto. Which one (or ones) to adjust depends upon the specific cause in each particular set.
I guess I should mention that the 79/80 service manual says these two values should be fixed at 28/20 - but I suspect that is more a matter of simplifying alignment procedures than because other settings are harmful. If you've used a test disc and have overscan and centering set correctly, then CXA LEFT/RIGHT BLK is all you have left to eliminate this problem.
As I stated earlier, as my set has aged I've had to repeatedly reduce H-AMP, *and* I increased CXA RIGHT BLK some to get rid of the rainbow. However, based upon the info I found / posted above, it seems now that I may have just been masking an underlying deterioration in some bad components. I guess I'm 'lucky' that it degraded to where the set is now shutting itself off while I could still get warranty service on it... If a one time adjustment does it for you, great! If it becomes an ongoing problem, don't wait till your warranty runs out to report it.
...As I stated earlier, as my set has aged I've had to repeatedly reduce H-AMP, *and* I increased CXA RIGHT BLK some to get rid of the rainbow. However, based upon the info I found / posted above, it seems now that I may have just been masking an underlying deterioration in some bad components. I guess I'm 'lucky' that it degraded to where the set is now shutting itself off while I could still get warranty service on it... If a one time adjustment does it for you, great! If it becomes an ongoing problem, don't wait till your warranty runs out to report it.
I always recommend that new sets be exercised hard to bring out any potential infant mortality, so folks can get satisfaction while still under their 30 day return period or warranty.
So, do you feel that your adjustments may have brought this ultimate failure on earlier than it might otherwise have happened?
plughplover 12-21-06, 02:46 PM So, do you feel that your adjustments may have brought this ultimate failure on earlier than it might otherwise have happened?
NOT AT ALL - in fact it may have delayed it.
Read the external article above - he DIDN'T adjust settings in response to the horizontal stretching and his set degraded fairly quickly ("All of the sudden, the geometry started getting progressively worse" "To top it off, the TV started turning itself off"). I, on the other hand, bumped H-AMP down a few notches every time I started getting rainbows again, over a period of 6 months or so.
That's why I am saying that if it's a one time adjustment - fine. But if it keeps happenning, you may just be delaying an inevitable failure (hopefully not past your warranty period).
plughplover 12-21-06, 03:16 PM And I'd REALLY like to track down the service bulletin alluded to in that external article. It appears that the tech knew exactly what the problem was, how to fix it, and what sets were subject to the problem.
If it's true that sets with Y8 / Y9 / YA serial numbers are subject to this failure (1) owners should know about it, and (2) Samsung ought to do a recall. But perhaps they are calculating that the failures will usually occur outside the warranty window...
So if anyone here has, or knows somebody who has, access to this info, please try to locate it and post the ID number (or the whole bulletin, if possible).
Hey guys. I am brand new to these boards and this thread made me just go ahead and activate an account.
I own a slimfit. It's the 27" 4:3 model, and for the most part I love it. I just get crazy sometimes with tech stuff, almost to the point where I look too hard for problems. From all the negativity on these sets, mine seems to be one of the better ones. I have no picture or color issues I am aware of, but I do have a slight bowing issue that I would like advice on.
There is a slight hourglass effect on the sides of an image. It isn't too drastic but it is there. When a full image (16:9 or 4:3) is on the screen you can't see it, but if I am displaying anything with that's "bordered in" you can see it. For example, I had digital pictures shown on a slideshow, the pics have a black border so they arent stretched out, so on things like this it can be seen.
I marked down all the factory settings and messed around a little with the service menu, and after two days I have to say the factory settings are still giving me the best results. I think somehting looks great in widescreen but then 4:3 images will look more warped then originally. I am really loosing hope that I can get it any better. I still have the option to get Circuit City's 1 year warranty for about 80 bucks. Think it will end up being worth it? I don't know if the tech can fix this and honestly, a replacement has a good chance to be in worse shape.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated! :)
$80 for one year? Seems a bit steep for just one year.
See what they want for a 2-3 year warranty. The relative cost may be easier to swallow.
Well here's their pricing:
1 Year: $72.07
2 Years: $136.73
3 Years: $196.09
4 $243.79
5 $285.13
Eh... Doesn't sound so great to me.
I know how you feel.
I've never purchased EWs for any other purchases, but for HD I did. This is just based on the reading and participating on home theater forums like AVS. It seems like tvs aren't made with the same level of quality as in times past. I've seen so many times where EWs pay for themselves in just one incident. For me, it's the right thing. For the next guy, maybe not.
Yea, I understand. I usually always buy EW for a lot of equipment, but TV's was always something I shrugged off. I will spend 70 for a EW on a PS3 and not think twice though, haha. I was re-evaluating my situation with the TV. I read more on thes forums and now I am confident my TV is in better shape then most slims, especially the 30" sets. The PQ is too good to risk a worse set by having an exchange. Who knows though, I may change my mind! ;)
Thanks for all the help justsc, it's nice to find a forum with such great posters.
Is this a good deal?
Samsung 30" Widescreen SlimFit Tube HDTV** (TXS3064) for 499.99 CAD at Best Buy
I want an HDTV for my Xbox 360, funds are low and I am fed up of my SDTV 27-inch Prima television (it is a piece of garbage).
Will this be a decent step up?
Sprouticus 12-25-06, 06:34 PM Hi. I bought a 3082 back in August and we haven't had any problems until just recently. Whenever the tv is on, it turns off for a split second and then turns right back on. It started out doing this like once every few hours, but now it does it every few seconds...and it's really annoying. I noticed that the living room has a lot of static electricity, so I bought a humidifier to try and eliminate that, but the tv is still doing it. I've also tried unplugging it for short/long periods of time and that doesn't seem to have done anything.
Is there anything I can do to remedy this, or am I going to have to call Samsung?
Any help is appreciated. :)
Hi, I registered here just to find out if my Samasung Slimfit 30" TXS3082 is dying. I bought it just a few months ago and what it has begun to do it to blink. It'll do it only every few hours. What it does it to blink off for a split second, it makes a click sort of noise and turn on right away. It just blinks out for a split second.
My problem sounds a lot like Sprouticus' problem but mine is in the formative stages. any suggestions?
UPDATE:
this is for Sprouticus too
I called up Samsung 1-800-726-7864 and told them the problem. They are sending out a repairman to my house to fix the set. If this works out and Samsung somes through, I will be VERY impressed with the customer service and they will have a customer for life (assuming this fixes the issue and the TV lasts me a while.)
Cross your fingers for me.
turbospeed 12-26-06, 02:19 PM mine was gorgeous at first awesome colors vibrant images in HD mode , but now its starting to do weird things , whenever image goes from blacks to whites or theres a flash or something , image seems to expandand for a second , and if youre in 4:3 mode the geometric distortion at the sides is much more noticeable.
mine was gorgeous at first awesome colors vibrant images in HD mode , but now its starting to do weird things , whenever image goes from blacks to whites or theres a flash or something , image seems to expandand for a second , and if youre in 4:3 mode the geometric distortion at the sides is much more noticeable.
What picture mode are you using (e.g. Dynamic, Custom, etc)?
Also, what are your other settings (e.g. Contrast, Brightness, Color, etc)?
...UPDATE:
this is for Sprouticus too
I called up Samsung 1-800-726-7864 and told them the problem. They are sending out a repairman to my house to fix the set. If this works out and Samsung somes through, I will be VERY impressed with the customer service and they will have a customer for life (assuming this fixes the issue and the TV lasts me a while.)
Cross your fingers for me.
Please let us know the outcome.
Best of Luck (with fingers crossed) ;)
Hi. I bought a 3082 back in August and we haven't had any problems until just recently. Whenever the tv is on, it turns off for a split second and then turns right back on. It started out doing this like once every few hours, but now it does it every few seconds...and it's really annoying. I noticed that the living room has a lot of static electricity, so I bought a humidifier to try and eliminate that, but the tv is still doing it. I've also tried unplugging it for short/long periods of time and that doesn't seem to have done anything.
Is there anything I can do to remedy this, or am I going to have to call Samsung?
Any help is appreciated. :)
I think you'll have to place a trouble call, like guybo. It would be nice to know how his service call goes first, if you can wait that long. It really depends on how patient you can afford to be. The results of his experience could be very helpful to you, as you can quote what was done on his set (if it is successful), and even what didn't work if it was unsuccessful.
Good Luck! :)
Is this a good deal?
Samsung 30" Widescreen SlimFit Tube HDTV** (TXS3064) for 499.99 CAD at Best Buy
I want an HDTV for my Xbox 360, funds are low and I am fed up of my SDTV 27-inch Prima television (it is a piece of garbage).
Will this be a decent step up?
I would only get a slim set if the cost was really, really low and the set was in tip top shape. In other words, if it didnt work well enough I could afford to take a loss. That means the cost would have to be no more than $300, give or take $50.
I am not confident in these slim sets - not at all.
I would only get a slim set if the cost was really, really low and the set was in tip top shape. In other words, if it didnt work well enough I could afford to take a loss. That means the cost would have to be no more than $300, give or take $50.
I am not confident in these slim sets - not at all.
The set is in tip-top shape, it is brand new in the box from Leon's.... I paid 499.99 CAD.
I didn't buy it second hand.
I look forward to hearing what you think.
Here's a few suggestions for starters:
-change the picture mode from Dynamic to Custom
-try settings similar to these; Contrast around 40 (45 for HD), Brightness 50 (55 for HD), Color around 40, Tint 50/50, Sharpness around 30, Color Temp Neutral/Normal. If it's too dark raise Brightness.
Best Of Luck!
iw84no1 12-26-06, 10:46 PM Ok, well I read through the thread from page 53 and I don't like what I see about a tv I was going to buy.
I wanted to buy the 3079 since it has a HD tuner built in and 2001 has it for $628 Cdn (they'll probably give it lower). BB also has the 3064 for $499 Cdn, but it doesn't have the tuner built in.
But, all I've seen is problem after problem! I was looking at an lcd, but all I see is pixels.
I'm not that concerned with how many component/hdmi inputs I have, as long as there's 1 for each, it's enough. I saw the 3079 at 2001 and on a cable input, the picture wasn't great and the text was blurry a bit.
I guess my questions are:
1. Is it a good idea to buy either of these tv's (preferably the 3079) or not? I'm leaning to the 3079 on the basis of the side speakers and hd tuner.
2. Is having the hd tuner built in necessary to get hd over the air via antenna? Would I just need the antenna to get hd channels with the 3064?
As for my input, I have a ViewSat Extreme FTA Rx on Dish Network, with component output. It's not true HD, but I need a tv so I can utilize it!
Zeldacuz 12-27-06, 12:59 PM Anybody know the native resolution of this tv and also what its resolution is in pixels?
Jack Howarth 12-27-06, 02:03 PM Ok, well I read through the thread from page 53 and I don't like what I see about a tv I was going to buy.
I wanted to buy the 3079 since it has a HD tuner built in and 2001 has it for $628 Cdn (they'll probably give it lower). BB also has the 3064 for $499 Cdn, but it doesn't have the tuner built in.
But, all I've seen is problem after problem! I was looking at an lcd, but all I see is pixels.
I'm not that concerned with how many component/hdmi inputs I have, as long as there's 1 for each, it's enough. I saw the 3079 at 2001 and on a cable input, the picture wasn't great and the text was blurry a bit.
I guess my questions are:
1. Is it a good idea to buy either of these tv's (preferably the 3079) or not? I'm leaning to the 3079 on the basis of the side speakers and hd tuner.
2. Is having the hd tuner built in necessary to get hd over the air via antenna? Would I just need the antenna to get hd channels with the 3064?
As for my input, I have a ViewSat Extreme FTA Rx on Dish Network, with component output. It's not true HD, but I need a tv so I can utilize it!
You might consider the LG 30FS4D instead if you are really worried. I got one for my son's room this Xmas to use with an Xbox 360. So far I am pretty happy with it. The only downside I see compared to the Samsung is that it doesn't have an Invar shadow mask. This limits the contrast level you can use.slightly. The geometry seems pretty good. I see a very minor wave trough banners on the extreme bottom of the screen but it is barely noticable. Notthing like the major geometry problems on the Samsung. Regarding the bigger pixels sides of the screen, if ithat problem is present in the 30FS4D, it seems to be very minor. Considering this set has been as low as $540 USD this season, it is a pretty good deal.
Hawk777th 12-28-06, 02:45 AM I think Ive made a mistake lol seeing the problems with these tvs. I just bought one of these TXS3082W and am scudualed to pick it up tomorrow morning. CC is running a good deal on an Olevia 32in LCD for 100 less.
Should I go with it instead? Im am going to use it for gaming with my 360 and PS3 please help!
CTDennis1985 12-28-06, 09:45 PM Ok you guys have officially scared the crap out of me.....
I have the rainbow effect.... but nothing else has happened..... the dumb buzz sound used to happen... but it's completely gone..... I stopped using the TV speakers and that was absolutely knocked out..... (which i recommend doing cause when I did if you had any loud things happening the picture would have interference... the same way you would if you have speakers blaring next to your computer monitor).....
I was using Dynamic Mode for Sports in HD.... and movie mode for TV shows/Movies..... but now i've custom set it to some less crazy settings..... even though I really liked the way it looked beforehand.... I'm afraid i'll kill it..... lol....
It's going great so far.....no weird bowing.......i've watched ESPN before.... and channels with the ticker.... I don't see any weird stuff........ looks the same as it ever has on any other TV......
Maybe i'll be lucky....... I JUST bought it exactly a week ago..... It's the 82 Widescreen...... I guess i'll pray and take my vitamins..... and hope this thing stays up to the excellent quality it's shown so far......
I didn't get an extended warranty.... so I hope Samsung's is good in case other issues arise..... I hope that Rainbow thing isn't a precursor to a defective set.... I don't mind it as it only happens sometimes on the left....... if that's all I get and nothing else happens i'd be absolutely happy......
If any of you have suggestions or whatever let me know......
Thanks...
Take Care....
Ok you guys have officially scared the crap out of me.....
I have the rainbow effect.... but nothing else has happened..... the dumb buzz sound used to happen... but it's completely gone..... I stopped using the TV speakers and that was absolutely knocked out..... (which i recommend doing cause when I did if you had any loud things happening the picture would have interference... the same way you would if you have speakers blaring next to your computer monitor).....
I was using Dynamic Mode for Sports in HD.... and movie mode for TV shows/Movies..... but now i've custom set it to some less crazy settings..... even though I really liked the way it looked beforehand.... I'm afraid i'll kill it..... lol....
It's going great so far.....no weird bowing.......i've watched ESPN before.... and channels with the ticker.... I don't see any weird stuff........ looks the same as it ever has on any other TV......
Maybe i'll be lucky....... I JUST bought it exactly a week ago..... It's the 82 Widescreen...... I guess i'll pray and take my vitamins..... and hope this thing stays up to the excellent quality it's shown so far......
I didn't get an extended warranty.... so I hope Samsung's is good in case other issues arise..... I hope that Rainbow thing isn't a precursor to a defective set.... I don't mind it as it only happens sometimes on the left....... if that's all I get and nothing else happens i'd be absolutely happy......
If any of you have suggestions or whatever let me know......
Thanks...
Take Care....
Welcome to AVS!
Don't be scared, just have reasonable expectations.
Yes, there have been failures. There are also boatloads of happy customers out there, as only a small percentage of folks make use of forums and such.
You've read the posts so you know what can happen. It sounds like you're taking all the best precautions. I highly recommend getting an extended warranty. If you are still within the manufacturer's warranty period, then you can still buy an extended warranty. It's definitely worth the investment and peace of mind.
How long you had it? Are you within a 30 day return period? If so, run the set as much as possible. That way, if it is weak, it may fail earlier rather than later.
Stay positive, and enjoy your viewing.
CTDennis1985 12-28-06, 11:09 PM yeah im within the thirty day return period..... should i just run it on the dynamic mode and such and see what happens until the 30 day period is over???....
and how can i get an extended warranty after having bought it???....
thanks for the welcome....
Don't run it on Dynamic. Just run it on the mode you would otherwise watch, which I hope is Custom or Standard. But only run it when you are home and can monitor it.
If any anomalies appear between now and the end of the return period, take it back and get a refund or a set from another manufacturer (e.g. Sony).
The reseller should offer you an extended warranty.
CTDennis1985 12-28-06, 11:37 PM Would the rainbow thing be a definitive sign of a major defect?
Yes.
I don't think it's reasonable that you s/b expected to watch the tv without using the speakers. Being within the 30 day return period (if that's the store's policy) means you can return it for whatever reason you deem appropriate. After that you are required to go through repair cycles until they become convinced you deserve a replacement. At this point I cannot recommend any Samsung crt sets.
But this is your call. You may find it acceptable to watch the set w/o using the speakers. If so, still run the set hard to uncover any other possible problems while it can still be returned.
Best of Luck!
Hawk777th 12-29-06, 01:12 AM Just want to report mine is doing great after some adjustments!
CTDennis1985 12-29-06, 06:16 AM Just want to report mine is doing great after some adjustments!
Nice..... what adjustments did you apply???......
Hawk777th 12-29-06, 12:38 PM Just some corrections in the service menu. Though it did take 2 pushes to turn it on this morning but after that its doing ok. Should I have this think on an apc power supply?
Jay.Windmill 12-29-06, 04:21 PM I got a 3082 recently and I'm happy to say that the geometry problems are minimal and hardly noticeable. Overall I'm very happy with the TV at the price point, and I'm happy to retain the advantages of a CRT.
There are two things I would like suggestions on. The first is minor and I only mention it because it is something that isn't working, even though the function is pointless. With the melody feature turned on, I only get a chime when I turn the TV on, but not when I turn it off. Is there somewhere in the service menu I can check this out. Should I worry about it at all...in terms of it being indicative of a potentially problematic set?
Second, when the TV hasn't been turned on in a while, the vibrating pop when it is finally turned on is the loudest I've heard from any CRT. So loud that concerns me. Is this abnormal on these sets, and should I be concerned about it? My parents have a 2782 that turns on with no "pop" at all. Thanks....
CTDennis1985 12-29-06, 05:09 PM Glad to report I left this on all day by accident lol.... I was so pissed..... but then I looked at the screen.... and it's absolutely fine..... No problems.....
Im gonna watch some DVD's tonight since I just bought an upconvert player.....
Talk about running your TV hard huh? LOL..... it's a 14 day return policy by the way.... damn bestbuy.... I work there too lol...... I got 4 days to make this sucker tap out........and I have a LOT of dvd's I have that I never got to watching yet.... So i'll definitely be giving it a run.....
I haven't done any funny business with the service menu..... I guess I should????.....What suggestions would anybody have......
And yeah mine doesn't do the melody when you turn it off either lol..... it does it when it comes on though.......
take care guys....
shwru980r 12-29-06, 05:14 PM Don't worry about the warranty or the return period. As long as your TV is still sold in the stores, just buy another one and return the defective TV in place of the new TV.
Atcguy21 12-29-06, 06:02 PM I posted here before about the set I bought a 30" HD 3082 model. I liked the PQ a lot. but it made a high pitched noise for a quite awhile and sometimes it was loud, sometimes could barely notice, but when it was loud it would pierce your ears. Also, I went into the Service menu to try and see if I could do something about it, but I kinda screwed the geometry of the pic up kinda bad, So I called Samsung and said it was making a high pitched noise and the picture was distorted. I bought the set open-box from Best Buy so instead of taking it back I just went thru Samsung for the warranty repair. All this happened about 3 weeks ago. They sent out a tech, he brought all new guts for the TV, he pulled the back black case off, unconnected a few wires inside then pulled out the whole innards (circuit board and everything) in one shot and put new ones in. I was amazed how easy it was. We turned it on and he had to adjust some geometry with the service menu a little but the PQ was great. then the high pitched started happening again, we were like WTF? So he determined it was something inside the back of the glass, maybe the gun that shoots the protrons at the screen or something I dunno exactly, or does it shoot electrons? I dont remember anyway now that you tech guys are laughing at me... So he left the new circuit board and all that, in the tv and left and said he'd call me back in a few days after he talks to Samsung he said he was going to recommend to them they send me a new replacement. So, this week Wednesday he came back and put the old innards of the tv back in and said I will be getting a new one sent to my house in a bout 2 weeks, I guess he had to put the old stuff back in for the trade-in. and he said the delivery guy that brings the new one will take the old one. So thats that...
I have a story maybe whoever told me this was lying I dont know...I heard a story that a guy bought a $2400 big screen plasma HD from Sears, they had the cable guy hook it up when he was installling digital HD cable box and the picture didnt' look right. so they couldn't figure out why. The owner of the TV called Sears and they sent him a new one without taking back the old one. So a few days after he receieved the new set he called Sears and asked if they wanted the broken tv back, they said no, keep it. It turns out that the cable guy hooked something up wrong and was using a wrong cable or something so the TV actually worked fine. The owner got 2 TV's for the price of one. And sold the first set to his friend $1300. You think thats a true story? A guy at work said this happened to his son. What do you think?
Atcguy21....
The son's either a very lucky person.....or a very big liar....... :>)
Glad to report I left this on all day by accident lol.... I was so pissed..... but then I looked at the screen.... and it's absolutely fine..... No problems.....
Im gonna watch some DVD's tonight since I just bought an upconvert player.....
Talk about running your TV hard huh? LOL..... it's a 14 day return policy by the way.... damn bestbuy.... I work there too lol...... I got 4 days to make this sucker tap out........and I have a LOT of dvd's I have that I never got to watching yet.... So i'll definitely be giving it a run.....
I haven't done any funny business with the service menu..... I guess I should????.....What suggestions would anybody have......
And yeah mine doesn't do the melody when you turn it off either lol..... it does it when it comes on though.......
take care guys....
When you run it hard you really go for it, eh?
You mention that the screen is now fine, no problems. Did the rainbow effect go away?
I wouldn't worry about the SM yet. Continue to run the set as much as possible and then make your decision in time to return it, if necessary. If you keep it, then it's time to make a list of items to attack and go after them one at a time. Many adjustments are made in the user menu, some in the SM.
Congrats on the good news! ;)
CTDennis1985 12-31-06, 12:40 AM Rainbow effect is still there sometimes.....Not a lot.....
there is a noticeable tilt near the top.....when I had the menu open setting up the dvd player that was going on........ but strangely enough there's never a problem on the bottom with sports tickers..... just the top right... i'm sure that was there all along though.... and i just never had anything running to expose it.....
No new things going bad.... picture is still great.... watched a buncha movies today.... it's been on practically all day since 9 am to 12 midnight..... had the day off lol.....
So far so good to me..... I'll keep running it.... but im leaning heavily towards rolling the dice and keeping it....... I figure some of these must work right.... my grandparents have the 27 inch one..... and theirs is fine..... it's been like a year.....no huge issues......it's in fact when I saw their TV.... that I was sold on looking into one........
I'll be on final decision probably as soon as Monday night.......then i'll be needing assistance in tweaking things........
Thanks for all the help....
Take Care.....
Hawk777th 12-31-06, 03:45 AM One thing Im having a problem with is when theres a bright flash on screen like lightning or gunfire the screen pulls in from the sides a bit, any ideas?
CTDennis1985 12-31-06, 02:13 PM An interesting note.....
I've talked to all the people in the home theatre department at the Best Buy I work at......I'm good friends with one person in particular who's been selling TV's for 10 years.... and he told me they haven't had any complaints about these TV's..... the only returns they had were in regards to the weight of the television.....
There have been no returns that anybody thought of in regards to quality of the TV..... definitely no long list of complaints.......
I'm still running it hard.... Got my Jets on...... Nothing crazy happening..... no new issues.....
Seems like the only problems so far for me would be the tilt at the top right..... when you have a ticker or something go up there.... the ticker will tilt downward at the right part.........and the occasional rainbow on the left side of the screen..... Neither of which are like so apparent and recurring that it's annoying..... but if there's a way to try and fix em i'd definitely try it out.....
I'm probably going to keep the TV barring any wild event......
So my TV is doing something else weird- but I don't know if it's normal or what. When watching a standard def channel in a 4:3 window, the view is bowing out. It's small but noticeable. I went back a few pages in this thread and did as I read to do- I turned the contrast down etc but no matter what I do it's the same.
Is this a sign of TV-apocolapyse or just a normal thing that this tube will do? I seemed to have started recently (or did we just notice it recently?) and isn't all that bad. I wonder too if it is related to the other problem I have been having.
Update on that:
Repair guy is coming avter the holiday and he says that he has to see the problem in order to fix it. I hope he brings a 6-pack and a movie because sometimes the prob happens after 10 minutes, sometimes not until after 2 hours.
Samsung 30" Widescreen SlimFit Tube HDTV** (TXS3064)
Paid $499.99 CDN at BB
I need some help.......
first off I must say I love this TV and I have no noticeable problems since plugging this in a few days ago.
I need some advice though.......
first I have not touched the settings except to turn off that stupid melody when it comes on and off.
I have it on Standard Picture
Contrast 70
Brightness 51
Sharpness 65
Color 45
Tint G 50 R 50
Color tone Cool1
Do I need to adjust these settings or are these settings good ? and if I do change this settings do I have to change them on each source ? AV1/AV2/AV3/Component1/HDMI etc.....
second.... what does Air/STD/HRC/IRC mean ? they are on the channel menu.
third... this model of TV does not have a built in HD tuner but I want to get a Samsung DVD recorder with up conversion..... when I play DVD's on this player, will I get close to an HD picture ?
forth... is there any other thing I need to do to this TV that would be beneficial ?
sorry for all the questions, and thank you in advance for all the help !!!
pennywise1982 12-31-06, 08:58 PM Something weird is happening with my Slimfit TX-R3079
On the bottom left of the screen, the vertical lines are all bowing to the inside. The weird thing is only the bottom half of the vertical line is curved, the top part is straight. Anybody know a quick way to solve this before i place a service call at samsung ??
I'm getting fed up with this set, its problem after problem.... :mad:
rickalamo02 12-31-06, 10:25 PM I just purchased the TS-3082W it was an open box from CC. Has anyone had any problems with seeing a row of horizontal lines at the top screen at least 4" deep, but only showing at the top of the screen? The CRT doesn't seem to be as crisp and as sharp as I expected is this normal?
TdPilkati 01-01-07, 03:29 AM Hi guys,
I just recently purchased a Samsung TXS2782H 27" Slim Fit. The picture quality has been good, but then again this is my first HDTV. Anyway I got one problem out of the box, and that was that it made a strange noise from the right speaker when the TV was plugged in but turned off. Well once that was gone now I am noticing that the picture has veered a bit to the right. This is especially noticable when I was playing Xbox 360 on 1080i picture setting. I was wondering if there was any way to fix this?
Thanks.
jhallgren 01-01-07, 12:11 PM I was looking at the 27" SlimFit (TX-S2782) at Sears on Sat nite...the display model wouldn't stay on long enough for me to try out all functions of the remote!! :( ...it kept shutting down at random times...at least four times in less than 30 min....and I'd seen a few other comments here about this issue, so it was the final nail in coffin that this set was NOT the one for me!
I'd only read the first 20 or so pages of this thread by Sat and it was what made me leary...yes, maybe this is a small subset of all the owners but I'm presuming the users here are more critical/informed than general public.
So I've started looking at Sony instead...I'll use my 11 yr ole blurry Panasonic for now!
Hawk777th 01-01-07, 11:00 PM One thing Im having a problem with is when theres a bright flash on screen like lightning or gunfire the screen pulls in from the sides a bit, any ideas????
jhallgren 01-02-07, 01:24 AM Hawk777th, even though I don't have a Samsung, I'm sure that I have seen this issue mentioned before in THIS thread...of course, it's SO long, that it took me last few days to read it...
Update: Found a post from 7-23-06 about "lightning" on screen causing changes..
An interesting note.....
I've talked to all the people in the home theatre department at the Best Buy I work at......I'm good friends with one person in particular who's been selling TV's for 10 years.... and he told me they haven't had any complaints about these TV's..... the only returns they had were in regards to the weight of the television.....
There have been no returns that anybody thought of in regards to quality of the TV..... definitely no long list of complaints.......
I'm sure that the majority of sets sold are more than satidfactory to their owners. These forums get a very focused clientele, those who are really into HT and those looking to solve a problem. This in no way reflects the general public, but it's still very important to us officianados, and to the manufacturers. I know for a fact that they look at forums like AVS to get a feel for what the more discriminating customers are finding.
...Seems like the only problems so far for me would be the tilt at the top right..... when you have a ticker or something go up there.... the ticker will tilt downward at the right part.........and the occasional rainbow on the left side of the screen..... Neither of which are like so apparent and recurring that it's annoying..... but if there's a way to try and fix em i'd definitely try it out.....
I'm probably going to keep the TV barring any wild event......
The tilt at the top - is that a true tilt, or an unevenness just at the upper right hand corner? If it's truly a tilt, then I assume you tried the tilt adjustment in the user menu?
On one of my calibration dvds, the Sound & Vision Home Theater Tuneup, they recommend reducing the "Color" setting in the User Menu to adjust for the rainbow effect. This is more often seen when using S-Video rather than component or digital connections.
Looks like you've got a keeper.
...I'd only read the first 20 or so pages of this thread by Sat and it was what made me leary...yes, maybe this is a small subset of all the owners but I'm presuming the users here are more critical/informed than general public.
I think this is definitely true. Folks here are much more discriminating and demanding than the general public. And that's OK. Manufacturers should be held accountable for their products, and who better to get input from than those who frequent forums like AVS. I think this is actually beneficial to the manufacturers. By watching the posts here they may get a leg-up on what might be trends (faliures) that may be right around the corner.
So I've started looking at Sony instead...I'll use my 11 yr ole blurry Panasonic for now!
I've got both a 27" Samsung and a 34" Sony. I love them both, and both have served me very well. If I were in the market right now for a crt set, I would be looking specifically at the KD-34XBR970.
bstrunk 01-03-07, 11:16 PM Can anyone tell me what the native resolution on the TX-S3082WH is? It says it displays up to "800 lines" but I'm not sure what that means in terms of native res. How does this related to 720p, 1080i, etc.? Is this essentially an 800p HDTV, and every type of HD source must be either up- or downconverted to the 800 lines?
jhallgren 01-04-07, 03:40 AM If I were in the market right now for a crt set, I would be looking specifically at the KD-34XBR970.Only problem is that even to find room for a 27" set, I have to move some things around...and the cart/stand I have is max'd out at that size also, and a larger one would interfere with opening the front door, so I'm limited by room config also..
patrickandsarah 01-04-07, 08:49 AM I've had my TX-S3082WH since September and absolutely love the PQ. But I have had an issue -- an intermittent, high-pitched beeping sound originating from the input/output panel on the back of the set. If I jiggle the cables, the beeping goes away, but only to return again an hour or so later (and sometimes just minutes later).
I don't think it's a cable quality issue, as I've swapped out brands and even input types; and I've also made sure each cable is individually zip-tied and not touching others. Could it be the way the I/O panel is mounted within the set? Anyone else run into this problem?
abcekids 01-04-07, 02:12 PM We recently bought a TX-S2782H even after reading numerous reviews about "geometry" problems. Our TV watching is usually pretty much limited to the evening news and the occaisional DVD and the kids watch an hour or so of PBS so we didn't feel the need to spend over a grand on a TV although we did decide to go ahead and upgrade to HDTV. Space and aesthetic issues also affected our decision.
Anyway, the picture is great and we're happy with it, but I do notice that on 16:9 hybrid aspect broadcasts (unfortunately a lot of the digital stations here seem to broadcast that way) the inside edge of bottom right hand black bar bends in a bit if we watch in normal mode. Everywhere else the lines seem straight. It looks pretty straight in 16:9 mode (maybe slightly curved along the bottom), but the smaller fully bordered picture kind of bothers me. Full 16:9 broadcasts seem to look fine in both modes.
Anyway is that bending in one corner the big issue with these TV's? It's not horrible, but if there's any way to adjust it, that would be great.
Unfettered 01-04-07, 03:43 PM Well, after a nearly year of putting up with the sets (3079) geometry and color issues, Samsung is sending me out a replacement set.....Only problem is, I don't know what kind of set they'll be sending.
My repair guy says he's seen dozens of these sets and they always end up getting replaced. Mine needed a new picture tube, as the purple spot in the right corner won't go away and is getting worse. The geometry is doing )( on all 4 sides and cannot seem to be adjusted out. In fairness, the set probably has less than 100 hours on it as I cannot stand the distortion. I hope they give me a choice of sets as I don't want another 79 model.
Well, after a nearly year of putting up with the sets (3079) geometry and color issues, Samsung is sending me out a replacement set.....Only problem is, I don't know what kind of set they'll be sending.
My repair guy says he's seen dozens of these sets and they always end up getting replaced. Mine needed a new picture tube, as the purple spot in the right corner won't go away and is getting worse. The geometry is doing )( on all 4 sides and cannot seem to be adjusted out. In fairness, the set probably has less than 100 hours on it as I cannot stand the distortion. I hope they give me a choice of sets as I don't want another 79 model.
I was offered a refurb 3065 which is the Canadian version of the 3082. It turned out they didn't have any refurbs so they sent me a brand new 3065. I had no choice in the matter.
I've had my TX-S3082WH since September and absolutely love the PQ. But I have had an issue -- an intermittent, high-pitched beeping sound originating from the input/output panel on the back of the set. If I jiggle the cables, the beeping goes away, but only to return again an hour or so later (and sometimes just minutes later).
I don't think it's a cable quality issue, as I've swapped out brands and even input types; and I've also made sure each cable is individually zip-tied and not touching others. Could it be the way the I/O panel is mounted within the set? Anyone else run into this problem?
I don't recall reading about this before. You definitely need to place a trouble call and get someone to look at your set.
Unfettered 01-04-07, 05:48 PM Well, we'll see how long before my set gets replaced. I also need to see how the extended warranty I purchased from Best Buy covers the replacement as the manufacturer is replacing the set and not their warranty company.
Unfettered 01-05-07, 03:16 PM Well, I got a call from Samsung on the replacement, and they'll swap my TXR-3079WHK for a TXS-3079WHX, TXS-3080WHX or a TXS-3082WHX.
Which of these models is better than the others? or should I take a pro-rated swap and get something else? I will be talking to Best Buy this evening about what they can\will do for me. I think I'll get a better deal from Best Buy or at least having them involved in the swap.
patrickandsarah 01-05-07, 04:09 PM I don't recall reading about this before. You definitely need to place a trouble call and get someone to look at your set.
Thank you, I will do just that. I sent an email to Samsung beginning of the week, but no response (and no surprise). So I'll suck it up and call the 800 number this weekend.
plughplover 01-05-07, 07:06 PM Well, my 3080 is back from the shop. They said they replaced the deflection board. The unit is staying on, and the picture distortion is significantly reduced.
But...
When I got my unit H-AMP was at 43; the service manual shows a default of 39; as the set degraded I kept reducing H-AMP, eventually down to 24; with the new board and realigned in the shop, it is now at --18--
Not sure what to think about this. I'm afraid they didn't address the root problem, and down the road the symptoms will reoccur - after the 90 day warranty extension they gave me expires, of course.
I went to the service menu and got the bowing thing worked out. It took forever and a lot of patience from my wife (LOL) but it's looking good!
I went to the service menu and got the bowing thing worked out. It took forever and a lot of patience from my wife (LOL) but it's looking good!
Outstanding & Congrats!
It's always very helpful for folks to include exactly what they did to resolve their problem(s), even if it's been posted before.
If you would do so it would be greatly appreciated.
jthomas666 01-06-07, 06:57 PM Just got an open box TX-S3082WH at Circuit City for $425. This sale sticker said $600, but they're getting ready for inventory and wanted rid of it. I won't have a change to get everything hokoed up until tomorrow, as I have to perform some surgery on the entertain,ent center first.
As I play with it, I'll post updates.
jthomas666 01-07-07, 07:05 AM OK, it's up and running. Overal, the quality is solid, but there is some color distortion in the lower left and upper right corners, along with some slight bowing on the right.
Based on what I've read here, I'll run hard for a week or so to see of it sorts itself out. I got the extended warranty, so if it doesn't work out, CC will send a technician out--which is nice 'cause I really don't want to move that thing again.
I have been researching these for awhile now. The LCD's that I wanted were just out of my current price range, so I settled I spose. I was worried from everything that I had read here about what quality of product I might end up with - but I took the chance because my brother got me a deal at Best Buy.
I have been casually using it for a few days now - and I have to say, no real complaints. Few things I have noticed that are annoying, but not crucial are:
* Takes about 5-7 seconds to power on, sense the connection, and produce video.
* Every few times I turn it on, I hear a high pitched noise, but only for a few seconds and it goes away.
PQ is solid. I have it hooked up though a Dish VP211 (HDMI), and all the HD content looks great so far. Compared to my dads 27" LCD, I think its as good if not better PQ.
Overall im happy for the price spent. Ill keep my fingers crossed that no more problems arise.
andydumi 01-07-07, 07:48 PM Does the 3080 or 3082 add a better zoom function than the 3079? Namely zoom 1 and 2 for HDMI and Component?
We have a 3079 that after some SM adjustments looks great.
However, it is quite frustrating to watch stuff off our cable box. It has Component output, which we use for the HD feed, but some channels broadcast with letterbox format in 4:3 so the zoom function the TV has for RCA and Svideo inputs is ideal. If not I guess Ill have to connect the cable box through both S-video and Component.
Also, anyone seen the new 92 series announced at CES?
Heres a link, sroll down
http://www.samsung.com/common/microsite/exhibition/ices2007/presskit/press_main.html
huberjgl 01-07-07, 08:38 PM Does the 3080 or 3082 add a better zoom function than the 3079? Namely zoom 1 and 2 for HDMI and Component?
We have a 3079 that after some SM adjustments looks great.
However, it is quite frustrating to watch stuff off our cable box. It has Component output, which we use for the HD feed, but some channels broadcast with letterbox format in 4:3 so the zoom function the TV has for RCA and Svideo inputs is ideal. If not I guess Ill have to connect the cable box through both S-video and Component.
I have the 3080, and no, no zooming on HDMI or Component.
Only thing you can do is switch between 4x3 and 16x9, which results in a thin picture when watching upconverted 4:3 material on a 16:9 channel.
I just plan ahead and record content I know I'll want to zoom fullscreen on my SD TiVo (Svideo), only record HD content on the HD TiVo's (one component, one HDMI).
I'd say it's the only thing I don't like about it, you should be able to zoom whenever and whatever you want.
I've been very, very lucky regarding the bowing, rainbowing, curving, blooming, beeping, etc.
Knock on wood.
Jerry
patrickandsarah 01-08-07, 10:58 AM Thank you, I will do just that. I sent an email to Samsung beginning of the week, but no response (and no surprise). So I'll suck it up and call the 800 number this weekend.
Just wanted to pass along how impressed I was with my customer service experience. I finally called Samsung for the high-pitched beeping problem late Friday afternoon, and the rep authorized an in-home service visit. But it was right at 5pm, so when he tried calling the local service company he got voicemail. A service technician called Saturday around 3 and was at the house an hour later, replacing the circuit board. Less than 24 hours from phone call to repair, and on a weekend at that! Very impressive. And so far, so good with the repair.
sissyneck 01-08-07, 01:27 PM I've been lurking for a while, and have gotten a lot of great information from you all, thanks very much.
I bought the TX-S3082WH at Best Buy three weeks ago (they price-matched Sears' price of $629.99) and got the extended service plan. I'm seeing the rainbow effect a lot on the left side and a little bit on the right side and it's driving me crazy (my wife claims to not even notice it.)
I called samsung and the rep said that while samsung is aware of the problem, it's not widespread enough to initiate a recall. He set up a service visit, but it's 3 weeks out.
I'm within the 30 days of my purchase, so I can go back in and exchange at bestbuy with no problems (after 30 days, they'll try to fix it before they'll exchange), but I'm wondering if you guys have any advice about how to proceed...if I exchange for another samsung, is there a particular "batch" (range of serial numbers) that I should try to get that would be less likely to be problematic? Should I keep the tv and just try the rainbow fixes you guys have posted? Or should I return for another brand/model?
Thanks in advance...
Unfettered 01-08-07, 01:40 PM I'd take it back. It was evident on the demonstrator at Best Buy where I live. I was looking to replace the unit that Samsung is picking up. Decided I may just spring a few extra bucks and buy an LCD. It can be diminished but as mine aged, it got worse. I did notice that there seemed to be fewer issues with the unit in the store than my unit exhibited when it was brand new. Deflection issues seemed to be better.
Just wanted to pass along how impressed I was with my customer service experience. I finally called Samsung for the high-pitched beeping problem late Friday afternoon, and the rep authorized an in-home service visit. But it was right at 5pm, so when he tried calling the local service company he got voicemail. A service technician called Saturday around 3 and was at the house an hour later, replacing the circuit board. Less than 24 hours from phone call to repair, and on a weekend at that! Very impressive. And so far, so good with the repair.
This is so refreshing.
I'm very happy for you.
Is there any way you can share the name of the outfit (including location) that serviced your set? I know there's folks here that would love to have a known-good shop to rely upon.
Cheers!
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