The Official Samsung SlimFit HDTV Thread... [Text View] - Page 8

jthomas666

01-15-07, 10:51 AM

Update:

So far, so good. Overall, I'm pleased with the set. Good vibrant images. I don't have a progressive scan DVD player yet, so I really can't speak to HD capabilities just yet. There are some minor problems thus far:

Color level is not consistent across the screen. I noticed it during the opening of 24, with the black opening screen. On the left side, the black of the picture blended the black of the sidebar. On the right side, the black of the picture was a little greyer, so that the boundary was obvious.

Slight bowing on right side of the screen.

When using the VCR tuner as an input (through the receiver), some channels display w/ a faint pinstripe pattern.

Geometry off a bit in widescreen mode. If I'm watching WS, I have to go to 16:9, then go to Zoom1 to get a proportional picture, but the zoom goes a little too far, so that a bit at the top and bottom get clipped. It occurs to me tht the problem may be with the 16:9 geometry, that I should not even have to use the zoom to get the right proportion. Can someone else with one of these confirm?

If it is a problem, I'd prefer to get a service call, as it's something of a pain to move the thing out of the cabinet. I got a three year extended warranty.

As a side note, I'm incredibly underwhelmed by the remote. Not well laid out at all.

inabag

01-15-07, 02:01 PM

Hi, I have a question for you all. In my area Time-Warner (AKA "The enemy") does not carry CBS in hi-def and the Superbowl is coming. I am pretty sure I can recieve CBS OTA with a antenna inside my house, but I am wondering if I will need a OTA HD tuner (AKA "expensive as crap") or if I can just go with the antenna.

Does the 3082 Simfit have a HD tuner onboard?

It does have one built in. All you will need is the antenna.

andydumi

01-16-07, 04:16 PM

Well, I have an original TXR3079 from a year and a few months ago. Geometry was mostly fixed with Avia and a few hours of Service menu, to a point where it was watchable. Also, a rainbow on black screens on two of the imputs worked itself out after a few months.

Now, it developed a weird purple corner, so I called it in and they came and picked it up (warranty runs out at the end of Feb.) They said they will take it right away, because the purple corner grows and grows quickly.

The repair guys said they pick up between 3 and 5 of these every week, and less than 5% get returned to customers, the majority are on a list of "recalled TVs" internally and they get replaced. There is no public recall from Samsung, but if they meet certain criteria, then they are automatically scrapped. He also said that out of the 5% that came back to customers, half go back to the shop within weeks for more or the same problems.

They said blacklist issues are purple corners, high pitch sound and also terrible bowing, as well as an oscillating/pulsing image. Any of the above issues result in an almost automatic scrap and replace. Since mine was exhibiting one of the symptoms, he said we will most likely get a new TV, some TXS similar model, he could not remember off the top of his head.

We will see what happens, I will repost once I hear more.

eagle101st

01-17-07, 09:49 PM

I bought this tv a few days ago and overall I am very happy with it. I do not have the geometry issues people speak of and the picture is great. One thing though...while I am watching tv or a movie, I hear a 'click' and the picture almost goes away for a fraction of a second then comes back like nothing ever happened. It sounds like the click from a computer CRT when thier is no power to it and the CRT turns off. Anyone else have this problem? If I am not explaining it well, please let me know and will see if I can try again :)

First post in the forum btw.

CTDennis1985

01-18-07, 01:38 AM

I'm sure that the majority of sets sold are more than satidfactory to their owners. These forums get a very focused clientele, those who are really into HT and those looking to solve a problem. This in no way reflects the general public, but it's still very important to us officianados, and to the manufacturers. I know for a fact that they look at forums like AVS to get a feel for what the more discriminating customers are finding.

The tilt at the top - is that a true tilt, or an unevenness just at the upper right hand corner? If it's truly a tilt, then I assume you tried the tilt adjustment in the user menu?

On one of my calibration dvds, the Sound & Vision Home Theater Tuneup, they recommend reducing the "Color" setting in the User Menu to adjust for the rainbow effect. This is more often seen when using S-Video rather than component or digital connections.

Looks like you've got a keeper.

Well the rainbow or maybe not even rainbow... it was green lol... got worse.... I couldn't watch Law and Order without multiple instances of this green effect when you had dark suit people on the left side with light oming through a window in the office or something...... I traded it for another and apparently I was sold an open box defective set...... cause the new one I got had geometry problems that the other one seemed to have been adjusted out on the other one..... and there wre more stickers on this new TV than the other one.... lol....and someone told me the same day the manager of the department was offering an open box.... but the box i got wasn't marked that.... it ust makes you wonder.....

The New one is fine though.... I adjusted things myself and the set is about as straight as it'll get lol..... No green blobs.... no anything..... It's absolutely perfect..... I may have lucked out here and twice is the charm.....

Only time will tell I guess..... But I feel much better about this TV .... especially when I tested the floor model we have at work and it had no issues with rainbow or green blobs or anything funny like the defective one did.....

thanks for the help.....

guybo

01-18-07, 07:04 AM

bah604

01-18-07, 07:28 AM

on the bottom left corner, the lettering is blurry but the other side is fine. It only does this on the bottom left side of the tv when writing is displayed. (like the news)

how can you correct this ?

eagle101st

01-18-07, 11:11 AM

This is exactly what mine does. I called Samsung and a tv repairman is coming to my place to fix it. He said on the phone that he is going to replace the circuit board in the TV. I hope it fixes it.

Call Samsung for repair.

I am sorry to hear...let us know how it goes...I will call today and schedule and appointment. Thanks for the info. When is the repairman coming out?

InsaneWank

01-18-07, 09:07 PM

Hello there all! I'm a bit new to the whole forum thing, and hope you can give me a hand with a few things.

The first and most important is that I picked up a TX-S3082WH about a month ago, and was initially very pleased with the performance of the set. However, I never bothered to do any of the tweaking that you folks described, which may be the reason for my problem.

My problem: I've noticed an odd discoloring on the extreme right edge of the picture tube. When there are high contrast images (i.e. bright whites), I see a discoloration on the lower right corner of the screen about the size of my pinky thumbnail; there is also a corresponding blob on the upper right portion of the screen as well. Anyone know the cause of this?

I've been doing most of my watching with full screen images (i.e. no black bars around the picture), and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the normal type of "burn-ins" one would expect.

I.E. is it repair technician time?

InsaneWank

01-18-07, 09:13 PM

It would appear would appear that I was hasty with this post. My problem sounds remarkably similar to yours, andydumi.

Hopefully I'm not wasting anyones time!!!

andydumi

01-19-07, 11:17 AM

It would appear would appear that I was hasty with this post. My problem sounds remarkably similar to yours, andydumi.

Hopefully I'm not wasting anyones time!!!

My problem was a purple corner in the top right. It was about 4 inches wide, and 3 tall. On white, its was clearly purple, but it also tinged any other color. In 4:3 you could not see it as it was affecting the black.

justsc

01-19-07, 04:53 PM

Well the rainbow or maybe not even rainbow... it was green lol... got worse.... I couldn't watch Law and Order without multiple instances of this green effect when you had dark suit people on the left side with light oming through a window in the office or something...... I traded it for another and apparently I was sold an open box defective set...... cause the new one I got had geometry problems that the other one seemed to have been adjusted out on the other one..... and there wre more stickers on this new TV than the other one.... lol....and someone told me the same day the manager of the department was offering an open box.... but the box i got wasn't marked that.... it ust makes you wonder.....

The New one is fine though.... I adjusted things myself and the set is about as straight as it'll get lol..... No green blobs.... no anything..... It's absolutely perfect..... I may have lucked out here and twice is the charm.....

Only time will tell I guess..... But I feel much better about this TV .... especially when I tested the floor model we have at work and it had no issues with rainbow or green blobs or anything funny like the defective one did.....

thanks for the help.....
Great news!

Even though I've been pretty much down on the latest Samsung crt offerings I know one thing for sure - when you get a good Samsung set you got a real gem. Looks like you've got one of those.

If you have a return period, still try to run it hard until the return period ends. Any parts that are going to fail eventually, will usually die during infancy if run hard. Don't run it while not home, but when there run it all the time. Just be sure the picture is changing so no channel logos get burned in.

Cheers!

eagle101st

01-19-07, 06:10 PM

My DVD's have a letter box effect when played on the Samsung TXS3082 30" Widescreen. I have an OPPO DVD player (DV-981HD) and use the HDMI input and set the resolution at 1080i and the DVD player set to widescreen. Is there a way to remove the letter box on the tv? I have the setting on 16:9 on the tv's setup too. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The movies I have tried so far are the Star Wars DVD's (the latest) and the LOTR DVDs. Are some DVD's just meant to have the letter box no matter what?

justsc

01-19-07, 06:38 PM

eagle101st

01-20-07, 10:50 AM

Some DVDs present movies in aspect ratios that are wider than our tv's at 16:9. The two you mention have an aspect ratio of 2.35:1 I believe, which still leaves a widescreen tv with letterboxes. In the case of these wider dvds you just have to get used to it.

How do you like the 981? I've got the 971 and I just love it. I actually thought you had made a mistake in writing 981, so I went to the Oppo site and - sure enough - there's a 981 staring right back at me. I gotta do better at staying current.

The 981 is awesome! It has a zoom feature so you can actually make the movies 16:9 but you lose a couple inches off of the sides but I guess I have to get used to letterboxes lol. The remote has glow in the dark buttons and the dvd tray seems more durable than previous models. The picture quality is amazing and the dvd player's firmware is very easy to update to keep current. The player is pricey but worth it. This one has excellent reviews all around.

Thanks for the info about the 2.35.1 aspect ratio :)

Adelmoxi

01-20-07, 01:33 PM

I juct went to CC last night, and saw the 30" SlimFit(TX-S3082WH) on sale for $700(I do not want to spend more than $999.00). I am looking for a replacement for my 32" RCA(that only work for a year and a half). Luckily The RCA (non-HD)was under CC's protection plan, but the RCA was only $499 so that means I will have to pay $200 more. do you think this is a good deal considering? The other TV Iam considering is a Phillips 30" HD-TV(30pw9110d, and on sale for 499). I also have heard and read mix reactions concerning this set. Again, do you think this is a good deal considering?

andydumi

01-20-07, 07:04 PM

I would definitely reccomend it. I have the older 3079, and while it is currently in the shop, it has served us very well, and the 3082 is much better from what I understand. The Philips is not so hot.
You can eve get the philips even cheaper on the Philips outlet website here http://www.outlet.philips.com/
My friend bought 2 of their refurbished TVs and they work pretty well, but they are not the best or most reliable TVs.

Colin_A

01-20-07, 07:52 PM

Welcome to AVS!

Good job fixing the rainbow effect. It would be helpful for all if you would post your fix, even if you're just following something you read here.

As has been written, I know of no fix for the high-pitched whine.

Magnetic Interference - there's no formula for distance. Trial and error will tell you how far or close you can get with offending devices.
Thanks! What I did to fix it was adjust the horizontal and vertical stretch and position until I essentially moved it off of the viewed screen.

Ultimately I had to return the set for a new one though, the ringing would not stop and even after I "fixed" the rainbow burst, it was still qwerky at best as far as the picture geometry goes (no matter how much I tweaked every setting it had). My new set does not whine, never malfunctions, and has much improved (not perfect, but I gather that is simply from its design) picture geometry. I'm finally happy with my decision to purchase the 3082WH.

Adelmoxi - I would certainly recommend picking one up, thats a similar deal to the one I got mine for, it was a bit cheaper online from CC when I got mine though. Do be aware that there seems to be A LOT of quality problems with them, luckily most seem to show up almost instantly like mine did. So even though I'm on my 2nd one, because this one works flawlessly I'm very happy with it.

CTDennis1985

01-20-07, 07:58 PM

Great news!

Even though I've been pretty much down on the latest Samsung crt offerings I know one thing for sure - when you get a good Samsung set you got a real gem. Looks like you've got one of those.

If you have a return period, still try to run it hard until the return period ends. Any parts that are going to fail eventually, will usually die during infancy if run hard. Don't run it while not home, but when there run it all the time. Just be sure the picture is changing so no channel logos get burned in.

Cheers!

Yeah i'm definitely watching it as much as possible when i'm around.....I pretty much just go to work and go home right now...... so it's a good amount of time per day it's being run........I flip between HBO HD.... TNT HD.... Espn HD.... Universal HD.....Fox and CBS..... and my dvd upconverter lol......Always have an option for something to watch between all that........

No problems yet... and when I returned it.... They reset the return period so it's 30 days from when I got the new replacement set.......

Grinnygog

01-21-07, 05:07 AM

first-time poster here.........I am wanting to purchase my FIRST HDTV. I don't want to spend a fortune - neither can I afford to. But I also want a TV that will last me for 4+ years. I had my options narrowed down to a Vizio 42" LCD and a Samsung 42" DLP. But after reading all of the posts I can find on here, it sounds like the Vizio's are pretty cheaply made. But it also sounds like the highly praised Samsung DLP's aren't for people who keep their TV on most of the day.

Our television is on from morning 'til night - about 12 hours a day.

Can I even GET an HDTV? I don't want dead pixels. I can't afford to replace lamps every 6 months. I don't have room for a LARGE rear projection TV - I need a tabletop TV.

What do you experienced experts suggest for a large family's MAIN television on a budget of $2,000 or less?

Thanks a million in advance!!!

mo79

01-21-07, 08:47 AM

Hi,

Do the problems (namely geometry and colour) associated with SlimFit HDTV apply to SlimFit non-HD TV, i.e. the CW29Z418T (found at pixmania co uk)
This is a TV I'm considering getting as I don't need HD/LCD benefits now and want to avoid getting widescreen if possible as a lot of broadcasts are still 4:3.
Any info much appreciated.

audiorecon

01-21-07, 10:54 AM

eagle101st

01-21-07, 05:41 PM

This is exactly what mine does. I called Samsung and a tv repairman is coming to my place to fix it. He said on the phone that he is going to replace the circuit board in the TV. I hope it fixes it.

Call Samsung for repair.

Called Samsung today and will update if they fix the issue.

Colin_A

01-21-07, 06:10 PM

I have had my 3079 for about 1.5 years. Every once in a while it would not turn on. I would sort of do this dance of manually pressing the button on the tv, pressing the remote and eventually it would turn on. Now it is totally dead. I tried unplugging it for a while and everything. Any ideas?
The 3082 I just returned was finicky about turning on about 25% of the time just as you are descrbing. I think your best solution is going to just be calling Samsung and getting it repaired, or replaced if its one of the blacklisted sets.

ChuloMan5

01-22-07, 08:11 PM

Chapper1

01-22-07, 11:08 PM

audiorecon

01-22-07, 11:56 PM

Well to give an update on my situation. My Sammy 2079 simply would not turn on one morning. I bit the bullet and opened up the back of the TV. CAUTION THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS.

Anyway, I opened up the back - it was like 10 or so screws. Remeber to let the capacitors discharge for a few hours to minimize danger. If you are looking at the tv from the back (since it will most likely be face down on the ground), there is a small 5A 250V fuse on the left side.

Test it for an open circuit with a multimeter. It cost me $3.20 at Radioshack for a new fuse and I was back in business.

Now I am an electrical engineer so I was comfortable with doing this. I would not recommend it for just anybody but if you are careful it is probably fine.

guybo

01-23-07, 06:25 AM

OK, 2 updates:

The repairman came out and replaced the circuit board int he TV. As he was pulling out of the parking lot, the TV did the blinking thing again. I was on the phone with Samsung when it did it again. They are going to replace my TV. The problem is that I don't know when they are going to replace it and the problem now is accelerating- it's happening much more frequently.

And the good news is that The Enemy (AKA- Time-Warner) got ABC in hi-def now and we will get the Superbowl (and we did get that sad, sad loss by the Patriots last weekend :( ) in hi-def! w00t!

Wickerman1972

01-23-07, 08:17 AM

I thought that the Super Bowl was going to be on Fox. That would be awesome if you're right because I have ABC in HD but don't have Fox in HD.

Wickerman1972

01-23-07, 08:47 AM

Damn, I just checked nfl.com and it won't be on Fox or ABC. It's going to be on CBS and I don't have that in HD either.:(

justsc

01-23-07, 10:09 AM

justsc

01-23-07, 10:11 AM

Damn, I just checked nfl.com and it won't be on Fox or ABC. It's going to be on CBS and I don't have that in HD either.:(
That is a bummer. I do get CBS HD, but they are the absolute worst. I thought for sure it was FOX.

eagle101st

01-23-07, 11:15 AM

habscolts

01-23-07, 03:01 PM

I was wondering if anyone was having the same problem as I did, I searched the thread for this but found no definitive answer. Sometimes when my TV is on, it makes a high pitched noise which is extremely annoying. If I turn it off it goes away but then quickly returns when I turn the TV back on. Any ideas or suggestions on how to improve this?

huberjgl

01-23-07, 03:31 PM

habscolts

01-23-07, 07:09 PM

It's been widely(ish) reported, and I believe it is a "replace the set" warranty item.

Jerry

Thanks for the info, if its thats widelyish spread, is there a good chance that my replacement TV will have the same problem? I love my TV and its already a replacement for a crappy Insignia TV that stopped turning on, and I thought I was finally going right by getting a Samsung.

Kevenz

01-23-07, 08:27 PM

hello i'm new, just got the 3065.....wich is basically the Canadian version of the 3082 and after reading endless posts around here..... nobody said HOW i'm supposed to fix the bowing problem? i tested everything in the deflection menu but nothing changed.... someone said velocity modulation but i can't find that anywhere..... thanks!

Atcguy21

01-24-07, 03:46 AM

I have a problem that I'm hoping someone can help me out with... I have the TV hooked up to my stereo and the audio coming through the stereo doesn't match up with the audio coming out of the TV's speakers. There is a lag in the stereo audio. I've tried a couple different wires but that didn't do anything. Any suggestions? Thanks.

Okay, I fixed this problem. I had the same thing with my 3082. I'm on my first set, had some other problems, and getting a replacement under warranty in about a week.
Anyway. In the service menu there under the Video Adjust 3 menu on the bottom right of the menu it says AudioDelay (x.66ms) Mine was originally set to about 150 or so. I set it to between 50 or 60 and there's no more delay or echo from my stereo. Mine sounded more like and echo, kinda of like when you have two TV's on the same channel but in separate rooms and the audio is loud enough to hear both.
Well thats the fix dude, there ya go. :)

Chapper1

01-24-07, 07:47 AM

Thanks for the info, if its thats widelyish spread, is there a good chance that my replacement TV will have the same problem? I love my TV and its already a replacement for a crappy Insignia TV that stopped turning on, and I thought I was finally going right by getting a Samsung.

I bought my 3082 and noticed that high pitched noise within a day. I exchanged it at the store and that one was fine. I think it is kind of a luck of the draw deal.

Kevenz

01-24-07, 09:51 PM

nobody knows how to reduce the Bowing problem? :(

guybo

01-25-07, 07:49 AM

plughplover

01-25-07, 09:56 AM

Well, it took some persistance and multiple emails with pictures of the screen distortions and discolorations my 3080 exhibited AFTER its recent service, but Samsung finally agreed to swap it out. (This was after they extended the warranty by 90 days in order to cover the 'turning itself off' issue it went into the shop for in the first place). They were going to offer me a 3082, but since the 30" side speaker models are to wide for the cabinet in my bedroom, I went with the 2782 instead; will be interesting to see how a 4:3 HDTV 'works'.

As previous posters have indicated, it seems the 'purple corners' issue is pretty much an automatic swap. I sent pics of some of the flat color test screens from an AVIA calibration dvd in my last email (which showed the discolorations quite clearly) and they immediately agreed to the swap.

So on the minus side, I'm really disappointed about all the problems I've had with my (first model year) TX-R3080, but I've got to give Samsung high marks for their warranty service. (BTW, they are giving me 90 days warranty on the replacement). I hope the TX-S2782, being a second model year design and 4:3 rather than 16:9 tube will be less troublesome...

I continue to be pleased with the LG slim set I bought to replace the 3080 in my living room (which is why the Samsung is going into the bedroom). While it has its own quirks, and its picture isn't quite as nice as the Samsung, I am overall quite happy with it. (The QAM tuner is nice, too - Samsung is really missing the boat on that).

justsc

01-25-07, 10:24 AM

nobody knows how to reduce the Bowing problem? :(
I recommend you search this thread as there have been a few that have posted how they fixed bowing on their sets. Search for "bowing,fix" or a similar search string.

eagle101st

01-25-07, 12:26 PM

eagle101st -

I don't know how Samsung's repair process works. My suggestion for when the guy comes out to repair your set- have him hang out at your house for a little while and keep the TV on during that time. Delay him so that the problem happens before he leaves. Have him mess with the service menu and be picky and have it take a long time. Hopefully it'll do the blinking thing while he is at your home.

I recorded the flicker on video lol. He came out and it did not happen but he opened it up, banged around in there, and left. It happened again later that night so I recorded it. The repair guy said if it happens again he will replace the circuit board but it sounds like that does not do any good. I will call them back and say it is happening again but I am going to wait to replace anything in case other issues surface...I have only had it for 2 weeks.

BoSoxMole

01-27-07, 04:30 AM

Has anyone done this before? I went into the Service Menu to check some stuff out and in "Video Adjust 3" there was "Sub_Color 1080i." So for the heck of it, I changed it from 8, which was the default, to 14. BAM. The color was so vibrant and it looked MUCH better. I turned it back to 8 and the color just wasn't there anymore.

I'd suggest people try it out, just to see the difference. Unless I shouldn't be doing this and I am just adding color that isn't there. But it looks sooo much better to me right now.

BoSoxMole

01-27-07, 08:35 PM

No one?

Delorean2006

01-28-07, 12:16 AM

That sucks man! I have a repair man coming out tomorrow for the same problem so I am assuming I will run into the same situtation. How does tehe replacement process work? Does Samsung come out and take the old one away?

I had to wait 6 months to get a single bit of movement out of Samsung.

And it seemed like they sent two blind guys to check it out. They couldn't see that there was horrible pixilation on the sides, geometry issues, and blue and purple blobs on the screen.

Ikabob

01-28-07, 07:30 AM

ImmortalfWd

01-28-07, 09:08 AM

I've had a 3082 since May. I finally had to call them today to schedule a trouble call. I'm having the issue with the high pitched noise, as well as the tv turning itself off and then turning back on. It also stops responding to the remote control and all buttons on the front, I usually have to end up unplugging it to turn it off.

LonestarROB

01-28-07, 12:53 PM

I , for some reason, cannot get into the SM. (Turn off, Mute,1,8,2) is the code I'm putting in. Isn't that right?

Hitting power(on) after the 2? Probably are you just didnt say it so just checking. ;) Other then that, i dont know. Maybe not doing it fast enough? :confused:

Anyway, just had my slimfit "fixed" yesterday. Now the color is messed up(among other things). Everything has a pink-ish tint to it, and reds are way overdone. Wondering if anyone could tell me which setting(s) in the SM would help correct these 2 things?

pennywise1982

01-28-07, 02:27 PM

Hitting power(on) after the 2? Probably are you just didnt say it so just checking. ;) Other then that, i dont know. Maybe not doing it fast enough? :confused:

Anyway, just had my slimfit "fixed" yesterday. Now the color is messed up(among other things). Everything has a pink-ish tint to it, and reds are way overdone. Wondering if anyone could tell me which setting(s) in the SM would help correct these 2 things?

To fix the red push, put the COL_AXIS setting to 1 in the VIDEO1 section of the SM. For some reason, 1 is the lowest setting for the red push... not 0.

Maybe with less red push, the pink tint will go away. I have no idea what setting could fix that.

BoSoxMole

01-28-07, 05:50 PM

I , for some reason, cannot get into the SM. (Turn off, Mute,1,8,2) is the code I'm putting in. Isn't that right. Maybe I'm lucky I couldn't get in . I could do damage. I just wanted to try BoSoxMole's suggestion above.
Just write down everything you are going to change. That is what I did. I still have the original settings from when I first changed it 5 months ago. I wrote it on the manual.

LonestarROB

01-28-07, 07:05 PM

To fix the red push, put the COL_AXIS setting to 1 in the VIDEO1 section of the SM. For some reason, 1 is the lowest setting for the red push... not 0.

Maybe with less red push, the pink tint will go away. I have no idea what setting could fix that.

Thanks for the input. Ill try this later.

What about black level? Have my brightness at 100% and its still incredibly dark. :(

pennywise1982

01-28-07, 09:16 PM

Thanks for the input. Ill try this later.

What about black level? Have my brightness at 100% and its still incredibly dark. :(

GAMMA, DPIC and DC-TRANS are what i used to adjust brightness. Lower DC-TRANS first and if its still too dark, try adjusting GAMMA

justsc

01-29-07, 10:25 AM

Thanks for the input. Ill try this later.

What about black level? Have my brightness at 100% and its still incredibly dark. :(
Regarding brightness - Adjusting brightness to 100% only makes the blacks as light as possible, but has little to do with overall screen brightness. For that you need to adjust white level, or Contrast, before making any SM adjustments.*

Red Push - if your "pinks" remain after adjusting COL AXIS, you can adjust CTI Level, which will slightly modify the overall chrominance. Make a very small adjustment downwards, and if it doesn't help return it to the default setting.

*Your best bet, if you haven't already done so, is to get a copy of Avia or DVE and give your set a proper calibration.

justsc

01-29-07, 10:28 AM

I , for some reason, cannot get into the SM. (Turn off, Mute,1,8,2) is the code I'm putting in. Isn't that right. Maybe I'm lucky I couldn't get in . I could do damage. I just wanted to try BoSoxMole's suggestion above.
Hey buddy,

Turning the power off isn't really part of the SM access code. The assumption is that the set is already off. So just add "Power On" as the last item and you should be good to go.

Cheers!

andydumi

01-29-07, 11:16 AM

When a TV is in service and it gets replaced, what is the success rate on letting you pay extra to get a better TV, something other than a slimfit? Has this happened to anyone?
Otherwise, when getting a replacement, do you get a retail, sealed box delivered or what?

LonestarROB

01-29-07, 06:32 PM

Regarding brightness - Adjusting brightness to 100% only makes the blacks as light as possible, but has little to do with overall screen brightness. For that you need to adjust white level, or Contrast, before making any SM adjustments.*

Red Push - if your "pinks" remain after adjusting COL AXIS, you can adjust CTI Level, which will slightly modify the overall chrominance. Make a very small adjustment downwards, and if it doesn't help return it to the default setting.

*Your best bet, if you haven't already done so, is to get a copy of Avia or DVE and give your set a proper calibration.

Thanks for the info. Pretty much at my wits end with this thing. I've done everything thats been suggested and theirs still way too much red in the image, all the whites/grays have a pinkish tint, and the dark colors are insanely dark.

ARRRGGHH!! :mad: :mad:

Demon Slayer

01-29-07, 06:49 PM

Could somebody who has a SlimFit HDTV (TX-S2782H in particular, but I'm not sure that it matters for my question) post what the default settings are under the options submenu in the Service menu? I was (stupidly) messing with them trying to see what they did, and I'm not sure if they are all back to what they were originally at. :confused:

I feel so dumb for not writing them down before I did anything. :(

LonestarROB

01-29-07, 10:49 PM

Ikabob

01-30-07, 03:36 AM

thanks for all the tips regarding getting into the SM. For some reason I cannot...even after making all the right moves. Maybe it's a sign telling me......"Don't mess with the Service Menu" ...so I am going to leave well enough alone. Thanks Justsc and everyone else. Ron.

Dark_Sith

01-30-07, 04:15 AM

is a good combination the oppo 971 or 981 with the slimfit model TX-R3079WH?
it can cause macroblocking?

justsc

01-30-07, 10:44 AM

is a good combination the oppo 971 or 981 with the slimfit model TX-R3079WH?
it can cause macroblocking?
I've used the Oppo 971 since not long after it became available. I just love it. The 981 is newer and I recommend folks give it a try. The 981 brings HDMI-HDMI to the table and includes SACD and such. The marketing data says it brings all the "goodness" of the 971's video processing, which is its biggets plus IMHO.

I've never witnessed the macroblocking on my set. I do know it's more prevalent on DLP displays.

Oppo has great customer service. Send them an email identifying your tv model and ask them if it's a good match. If, for some reason, you have problems Oppo WILL make it right.

Cheers!

justsc

01-30-07, 10:54 AM

Their are no "default" settings. Every tv is different. :)
This is correct.

There's no boilerplate of numbers assigned to each set in the factory. During final test these sets get a cursory calibration through the use of test patterns, very similar to what we do when using Avia or DVE, only their calibration is "quick and dirty." Calibrating against test patterns means each set could easily get different values for the various SM settings. This makes each crt set unique. Copying someone else's values has little chance of getting the kind of picture quality folks want. The best bet is to use Avia or DVE and give your set a proper calibration.

Demon Slayer

01-30-07, 05:57 PM

jonjonjanson

01-30-07, 06:01 PM

I have the TXR3079WH and have been experiencing all the geometry and discoloration problems that most of you speak of. Last week I went through my Circuit City Extended Warranty and had a technician come out to repair my TV. He said that he wasn’t able to correct the bowing but said that all CRTs have that problem but most of the time it can be repaired to the point where it is almost unnoticeable. My problem is clearly evident. He also installed a magnet on the top left of my screen to correct the color discoloration but after 3 hours it came back.

So I called Circuit City back and told them about the problems I was still experiencing and that I am very dissatisfied with this television. The women on the phone told me that they spoke with the tech and he said that all CRTs have the problem that I am experiencing and that I was pretty much screwed. I wasn’t going to take this sitting down so I told her that I wasn’t pleased with that answer. She then said she would send my case to the corporate office and I would be receiving a phone call from them.

What I want is my money back for this TV in the form of store credit so that I can upgrade to an LCD. Do you guys have any pointers on how I should go about this? I am not very sure of what I should say to the corporate office. This TV has major problems and I can’t believe that they would back that kind of product. Thanks for any help you can give me.

Nunovyer Bidness

01-31-07, 04:18 AM

Whew! Finally made it through all 62 pages of this thread – unfortunately this was AFTER I purchased the 27" Samsung TX-S2782HX. Overall it’s not bad after a week and a half, but I’ve got some questions. I'm very new to the HD and the AVS Forum worlds, so please bear with me.

Here’s my very minimalist setup:
-- The 2782 with built in HDTV tuner and 4:3 screen. I don’t have a calibration DVD yet, but thanks to JustSC and others on this thread, I have my Custom settings pretty close to what’s been recommended here.
-- “Regular” cable (not digital or HD, and no box) connected to the TV with the RF (coaxial?) cable.
-- Also a cheapo rabbit ear antenna for Over-the-Air channels. (Yeah, just one “ear” – thought it swiveled but nope, just went up and down until it snapped off.) I’ll get a better one if I keep the TV, but since I’m in an apartment I don’t know how many options I’ve got. But yeah, a two-eared antenna, definitely!
-- No speakers other than what’s on the TV. Curse of the Apartment Dweller, Part 2.

Now for the questions:
1. Do Over-the-Air 1080i or 720i channels seem stretched vertically (especially to those of you who have the same model)? So people are just a bit too tall and thin? All the HD channels do this to some degree. However, the same shows through cable or on the Over-Air 480i channels seem almost normal, but on closer inspection they're stretched the other way - just a tiny bit too wide. Not as noticeable as the vertical stretching on 1080/720, but it's there. I can see people and square or circle logos go from skinny to squat as I switch back and forth between OA and the cable channels.

It's not a Picture Size setting as far as I can tell, since I can cycle through the options and find the obvious "correct" choice - everything else is pulled extremely tall or wide. 16:9 is definitely the correct picture size for 1080/720, and Normal is the correct setting for 480. But, even on the correct picture size setting, people are still super-model thin on 1080/720 broadcasts. (The other choices just Zoom really tall to eliminate letterboxing. Not sure why anyone would even use them other than to avoid burn-in.)

So, is this stretchy picture normal with HD, or is it something with my set? Maybe just the nature of watching 16:9 on a 4:3 screen? Some sort of geometry issue – but one that stretches things the opposite direction for 480? Would upgrading to digital cable or HD package do anything for me? (As opposed to Over-Air HD?)

2. Improving standard cable picture quality. Again, I’ve got a “regular” cable connection without a box. The picture on some channels is pretty poor, particularly the local network stations. I understand it’s never going to be fantastic, but would these improve if I move up to a digital cable (but non-HDTV) box?

3. Geometry problems. I’ve got some bowing inward from the top and the bottom, which I might be able to live with if I can’t get that fixed. My bigger concern is the vertical – the sides of the picture are warped in and out at different points. I watch a lot of home improvement/home decorating shows (yeah, chick stuff), and the wavy walls and doorways are driving me nuts. If I can get that fixed with a service call or through the Service Menu myself, is it likely to stay stable? As some mentioned, the warping seemed to improve from Day 1 to Day 2, but after that it’s stayed the same. Will any geometry fixes “stick”? I don’t want to let the return window expire only to have it continue to shift.

4. Loving the Over Air HDTV picture, though sometimes it’s too sharp? Not sure how to describe it, but it’s really noticeable when watching late night talk shows. It almost looks like the host and guest are in front of a green screen, with too-sharp an edge between the people and the background. I’ve played with the Sharpness, Contrast, and Brightness levels, but nothing seems to change this – the people and even Jay’s coffee cup still look like stickers pasted onto a background picture. Any suggestions on what setting I should change? Or do I just need to get used to HD?

Sorry, I know this is a lot of questions. I’m nearing 2 weeks into my 30-day return window with Best Buy, so need to figure out if I’m keeping this set or not. Thanks for any insight y’all can give me!

justsc

01-31-07, 10:32 AM

Yes, I realize that all the geometry and color settings are different for each TV, but I was talking about the options submenu. This menu contains things like whether the TV is widescreen, and an option to load settings using the built-in USB port. I believe these options are the same for all the SlimFit TVs, and are only different if you're using a different Samsung TV.
I think you're right about the options submenu now that you've added this post.

My set is older, from the TX-N series and has a different SM from what's out there now, so I can't help.

Can any others help Demon Slayer with the Options submenu values?

PS-Please do invest in a calibration dvd. It really is an investment. It is the least expensive, most available tool for the masses that guarantees to deliver the best possible PQ, and to keep that PQ at its best year after year.

justsc

01-31-07, 04:45 PM

Whew! Finally made it through all 62 pages of this thread – unfortunately this was AFTER I purchased the 27" Samsung TX-S2782HX. Overall it’s not bad after a week and a half, but I’ve got some questions. I'm very new to the HD and the AVS Forum worlds, so please bear with me.
Nunovyer,

Welcome to AVS! ;)

What a great post. It's so good when folks give a comprehensive "big picture" at the outset - it makes support that much easier, and more enjoyable.

Here’s my very minimalist setup:
-- The 2782 with built in HDTV tuner and 4:3 screen. I don’t have a calibration DVD yet, but thanks to JustSC and others on this thread, I have my Custom settings pretty close to what’s been recommended here.
-- “Regular” cable (not digital or HD, and no box) connected to the TV with the RF (coaxial?) cable.
-- Also a cheapo rabbit ear antenna for Over-the-Air channels. (Yeah, just one “ear” – thought it swiveled but nope, just went up and down until it snapped off.) I’ll get a better one if I keep the TV, but since I’m in an apartment I don’t know how many options I’ve got. But yeah, a two-eared antenna, definitely!
-- No speakers other than what’s on the TV. Curse of the Apartment Dweller, Part 2.
On analog devices like crt sets, attributes like color and sharpness can tend to drift over time. Without a calibration dvd there's no way to perform the necessary annual or twice a year calibration to keep PQ at its best.
Now for the questions:
1. Do Over-the-Air 1080i or 720i channels seem stretched vertically (especially to those of you who have the same model)? So people are just a bit too tall and thin? All the HD channels do this to some degree. However, the same shows through cable or on the Over-Air 480i channels seem almost normal, but on closer inspection they're stretched the other way - just a tiny bit too wide. Not as noticeable as the vertical stretching on 1080/720, but it's there. I can see people and square or circle logos go from skinny to squat as I switch back and forth between OA and the cable channels.

It's not a Picture Size setting as far as I can tell, since I can cycle through the options and find the obvious "correct" choice - everything else is pulled extremely tall or wide. 16:9 is definitely the correct picture size for 1080/720, and Normal is the correct setting for 480. But, even on the correct picture size setting, people are still super-model thin on 1080/720 broadcasts. (The other choices just Zoom really tall to eliminate letterboxing. Not sure why anyone would even use them other than to avoid burn-in.)

So, is this stretchy picture normal with HD, or is it something with my set? Maybe just the nature of watching 16:9 on a 4:3 screen? Some sort of geometry issue – but one that stretches things the opposite direction for 480? Would upgrading to digital cable or HD package do anything for me? (As opposed to Over-Air HD?)
This is tough to diagnose w/o seeing it. Your set delivers a standard 4:3 window for SD material, or for HD material that's been downscaled to SD. Your set also does vertical compression to deliver 16:9 material properly. But you are getting stretched content. Was your set brand new or open box? The symptoms you describe can easily result from a failed attempt to fix things in the Service Menu (SM) by a previous owner trying to resolve overscan. I would place a trouble call and get them out there to look at it before the 30 day return period expires. If they can't meet that then I'd return the set for another. Don't get stuck in a repair loop that takes you past your 30 days.

2. Improving standard cable picture quality. Again, I’ve got a “regular” cable connection without a box. The picture on some channels is pretty poor, particularly the local network stations. I understand it’s never going to be fantastic, but would these improve if I move up to a digital cable (but non-HDTV) box?
I saw dramatic improvement after calibrating with Sound & Vision's Home Theater Tuneup. You will get better PQ with digital cable (on digital channels) but at a cost.

3. Geometry problems. I’ve got some bowing inward from the top and the bottom, which I might be able to live with if I can’t get that fixed. My bigger concern is the vertical – the sides of the picture are warped in and out at different points. I watch a lot of home improvement/home decorating shows (yeah, chick stuff), and the wavy walls and doorways are driving me nuts. If I can get that fixed with a service call or through the Service Menu myself, is it likely to stay stable? As some mentioned, the warping seemed to improve from Day 1 to Day 2, but after that it’s stayed the same. Will any geometry fixes “stick”? I don’t want to let the return window expire only to have it continue to shift.
I'd also place a trouble call to get the bowing on the vertical axis fixed. Once fixed it pretty much holds. As I mentioned earlier, these things can drift a bit, but not usually past your ability to make adjustments.

4. Loving the Over Air HDTV picture, though sometimes it’s too sharp? Not sure how to describe it, but it’s really noticeable when watching late night talk shows. It almost looks like the host and guest are in front of a green screen, with too-sharp an edge between the people and the background. I’ve played with the Sharpness, Contrast, and Brightness levels, but nothing seems to change this – the people and even Jay’s coffee cup still look like stickers pasted onto a background picture. Any suggestions on what setting I should change? Or do I just need to get used to HD?
This is the result of too much edge enhancement (Velocity Scan Modulation). Unfortunately, Samsung doesn't give you control over this in the user menu. You need to fix this in the SM, which is pretty easy.

Sorry, I know this is a lot of questions. I’m nearing 2 weeks into my 30-day return window with Best Buy, so need to figure out if I’m keeping this set or not. Thanks for any insight y’all can give me!
Best of luck with the set. Fortunately for you, the 4:3 sets have fared much better than the widescreen slimfits. I've got a pre-slimfit 27" Samsung set and still love it.

Cheers! ;)

trevorwong77

01-31-07, 08:47 PM

I bought in in Malaysia... the picture really not that clear and shaking when viewing nice national geographic show.. A bit regret to buy it. However, the thickness is really cutting adge. Price is way low than those so call LCD screen which design for DVD but not normaly TV show. I am not bias to expensive stuff, but the LCD is really marked up user's expenses way too high.

Damn, suamsung, i will never buy again. U can feel how dissapointed I am and enforce me to register to this forum. :(

Demon Slayer

01-31-07, 09:56 PM

Nunovyer Bidness

02-01-07, 12:06 AM

Hey Nunovyer Bidness, you said you have a TX-S2782HX, but mine says TX-S2782H. Is that X on the end correct? I did a search on Samsung's site and there were zero results with the X at the end, so I think they're the same.

Could you do me a huge favor and check those options for me? :confused:

Sorry for any confusion with the X at the end - not sure where that came from!

As to the Options sub menu, is this what you're after?
Anynet Enable: On
UNA: On
HDMI Number: 2
V-Chip: USA
Anynet OSD: Off
DDC Protect: On
EER Reset: (blank)
240 test pattern (blank)
Watch Dog: On
AGC_On/Off: Off
Shop Mode: Off
Screen Size 4:3: On
Downloadable RSS: On
WB Reset: Off
USB Download: Ready

Holler if you need more than this.

Now, are you noticing any "stretching" problems like I described in my question 1? A little too tall/thin when watching 1080i or 720i, and just a tiny bit too short/wide on a 480i channel?

Nunovyer Bidness

02-01-07, 12:37 AM

Ikabob

02-01-07, 07:15 AM

Thanks Justsc for monitoring this site. We are so lucky to have you answer all of our concerns so completely . I know I have said this before. The only thing better than this would be if you made "housecalls" . Thanks again! Ron

seedpws

02-01-07, 01:01 PM

I been through hell trying to get my 27" HD Panasonic TV I bought repaired from CC protection plan. What a hassle to get anything done. I will never buy another protection plan from them again. Well anyway they said my TV was too much to repair so they would just replace it. At CC they pick out a TV for you to have and if you don't like it then they will give you the money for store credit I guess. I paid $500 for the TV plus taxes and like $80 for the protection plan. TV was 13 months old when it broke on a 3 year plan. So I guess they are willing to give me a check back for the extra time left on the warranty and a new TV that is $549.99 right now.

The TV they are willing to give me is the Samsung 27" SlimFit HDTV (TXS2782H).
Should I try my luck with this TV or should I demand the store credit of $549 to use towards a LCD? I won't want to have to spend much more for a LCD but most shows and DVDs we watch in HD and are widescreen. Not sure what to do. Would be nice to not spend any extra money. Is the bowing still in the TV now and is it pretty bad? Can it be fixed?

So if you were me what would you do?

ImmortalfWd

02-03-07, 04:21 PM

Just had a service tech from Sammy come and look at my 3082. It needs to be replaced, they were going to replace all the inards, but the tube is burnt.

shaftr

02-04-07, 01:55 PM

My 3079WH has been nothing but trouble. My first problems included a high pitch noise, then it was discoloration in the top right. A tech came out and put in a new Flyback transformer and tried to fix the discoloration. It didn't work and now, along with those problems, the 16:9 mode cuts off some of the screen on the left & right. I'm waiting for the tech's report to be sent in so I can get a replacement. I think I'll upgrade to an LCD, b/c I've had nothing but bad luck with this slimfit.

doctorcisco

02-05-07, 12:27 PM

All,

Like several other posters, I've had issues with my TX-3079WH.

It always had some of the bowing issues, but I loved the picture quality, so I dealt with it. However, a month or so ago I started getting rainbow artifacts on the right side whenever the screen was black. Called Samsung for a warranty call, and was told we're out of the service area for their techs. (I live in the western suburbs of Chicago, mind you!) So they authorized a replacement from Circuit City.

To make a long story short ... the first replacement was flaky on HDMI. I'd get 4-5 seconds of picture, then 2-3 seconds of snow, endlessly repeating the cycle. I imagine it was a mismatch when the Comcast Cable Box (a Motorola) and the set were trying to negotiate HDMI. Swapped out the cable box, same issue. So I drove 80 miles round trip to get the only other replacement CC had in the Chicago area.

Replacement #2 had the same HDMI issue. Hooked up component so my wife and I could watch the ball game yesterday. The thing blew a transformer or a tube about 2 PM, and is now deader than a doornail.

I'm certain that both replacements were new stock, not open-box. Is this rate of bad out of the box typical for these sets? I'm trying to decide whether to try another replacement unit (and wait for CC to try to get one in, since they don't carry SlimFits any more), or take store credit toward something else.

Also ... if I end up with store credit, would anyone like to hit the CC website and tell me what's decent that would cost me $1000 or less? I have no clue what's what these days, my wife is at home recuperating from a surgery, and I'd really like to get this solved so she's not stuck sitting on the couch looking at the 20" NTSC set I brought up from the basement!

Thanks,
doc

Colin_A

02-05-07, 12:33 PM

On the rate of dead from the box thing, I'm on my second 3082WH now. My 1st one whined and had a thin rainbow on the top of the screen, now my second one, the right side of the picture has a purple hue to it... Now I'm in the process of getting a tech out here to look at it.

So, if I get to my 3rd set and like you still have problems, I'll be looking for other solutions as well.

Nunovyer Bidness

02-05-07, 10:13 PM

This is tough to diagnose w/o seeing it. Your set delivers a standard 4:3 window for SD material, or for HD material that's been downscaled to SD. Your set also does vertical compression to deliver 16:9 material properly. But you are getting stretched content. Was your set brand new or open box? The symptoms you describe can easily result from a failed attempt to fix things in the Service Menu (SM) by a previous owner trying to resolve overscan. I would place a trouble call and get them out there to look at it before the 30 day return period expires. If they can't meet that then I'd return the set for another. Don't get stuck in a repair loop that takes you past your 30 days.

Thanks, justsc. No, the set wasn't an open box. The best way I can describe the amount of stretching is to compare it to my computer monitor. Its native resolution is 1280 x 1024, but I don't like how small everything is on my 19" monitor. So I've got mine set at 1152 x 864, and things are close to sqaure but just a little too thin. Again, noticeable with round objects and people's faces or full-length body size. On the monitor it's my choice, and I can switch back and forth if I want of course. Hopefully the service call will take care of this.

Well, Best Buy's sending a service person in two days, so we'll see what happens. Hopefully no more geometry giving me a screen with the sillohuette of an urn (or old-fashioned milk can, actually). Now, tell if this seems reasonable: the guy at Best Buy thought the too tall/thin thing on my OTA HD/16:9 channels was not the TV, but the stations. Since HD is a "new" thing, they're trying to work things out, and especially since they're also broadcasting in SD/4:3 they have to hit a compromise, which explains why the 4:3 stations (OTA and cable) are a touch too short/wide. :confused: Whadda ya think?

shaftr

02-05-07, 10:24 PM

Put in a DVD and check it. I noticed my 16:9 problem when playing my Xbox 360 and it shows up on Cable & DVD as well.

I called Samsung to ask for a replacement and they said I haven't qualified, so I'd have to call the repairman again. I argued that this is pointless since he was just here on Thursday, so I called the repair place and we'll see what happens now. I wouldn't be surprised if he called Samsung himself and said I need a replacement.

Hawk777th

02-06-07, 02:45 AM

Seems like thers some more knowledgeble people on this thread so I thought id reask a previous ?. When theres a bright flash on screen it pulls in from the sides when its realy bright its like probly and inch on each side and screen size is changing with various levels of brightness I only notice this on my componet inputs. Is it somthing internal I asked my buddy he thought the picture might be out of range and that was doing it Im guessing power supply.

jhunterthompson

02-06-07, 02:18 PM

aj3026

02-06-07, 02:52 PM

justsc

02-06-07, 02:59 PM

Hello. I recently bought a Samsung TX-S2782H.

I was wondering what the following means:

800 lines horizontal resolution

I have searched the forum, searched the web, and called Samsung but am unable to find a definitive answer as to what it means.Actually, now I am only more confused.

Can someone explain in a simple way if this TV will actually display a 1080i signal or if not. Is this really a HDTV in the "consumer" sense of the word rather then the technical sense.

I think if it like a change machine actually, If the TV will not do what it advertises it is like having a change machine that has a big sign that says it accept $1 and $5 and then a little note hidden away that says if you put in a five you only get $250 back.

Thank you all in advance.
This is an HDTV. Samsung goes so far as to explain just how many lines of horizontal resolution the set shows. They say that there's a max of 800 (vertical lines running from left to right across the screen) which constitutes horizontal resolution. Vertically it's about 1080 (horizontal) lines.

This issue has been beaten to death numerous times on this and other forums. Even on my 34" Sony crt set (widescreen) there's only about 950 lines of horizontal resolution, and I get an incredible HD picture, better than my buddy's with a 45" 1080p LCD set.

It's your choice how to react to this info. I recommend going by picture quality rather than by advertised lines. Stick with whatever looks best and ignore the rest.

jhunterthompson

02-06-07, 03:22 PM

This is an HDTV. Samsung goes so far as to explain just how many lines of horizontal resolution the set shows. They say that there's a max of 800 (vertical lines running from left to right across the screen) which constitutes horizontal resolution. Vertically it's about 1080 (horizontal) lines.

Thank You.

That is the type of explanation I was looking for.

seanv927

02-07-07, 02:21 AM

shaftr

02-07-07, 07:30 AM

I am in need of some advice please!

I have owned my tv for or my store return deadline (45 days now) and I am going through major problems. The first problem was the rainbow effect. I wish i had this website weeks ago b/c i was googling the problem daily but got no answers on how to fix the rainbow issue. The repair man hit some code with the remote and adjusted something that not everyone can have access to!
the rainbow banding dissappeared but suddenly a loud high pitched noise started. i think its been going on before the repair man came. I have seen people state on this site that there is no known way to make the noise go away.\

so i need help with how to deal with this. The repairman has already tried to make the highpitch go away by replacing the PCB. no good b/c the noise is still here. So do I go on trust that this tv can be fixed or demand that samsung give me a new tv...0r my money back? this noise is so loud. has anyone out there dealt with samsung about this noise that can't be fixed? will samsung just send me a new tv if i demand they do?

Yes, I have the same problems with my 3079WH. Discoloration in the top right corner and the high pitched noise. The noise comes and goes, but it does get quite loud. The repairman replaced the flyback transformer (I believe) and the noise returned after he left. I called Samsung again to ask for an exchange, but they said I don't qualify yet so I'll have to get it fixed again. I called the repair man, and he said he'd call Samsung. So, hopefully soon I'll be able to do a return. The problem is I think Samsung requires so many attempts to fix it before they approve an exchange. I plan on calling every few days and letting them know how I feel. There is no reason we should be stuck with TVs that don't function properly.

seanv927

02-07-07, 08:18 AM

[QUOTE=shaftr]
Yikes i was afraid that they would demand more repair attempts. It isn't fair that they can make so many bad tv models for so many people. I will call a lot and tell them that nothing is fixing the problem...not even getting a new tv model is a quick fix!!

rubenmorenojr1

02-07-07, 01:15 PM

I just purchased the ts-t2782. It is a nice set. The only problem I notice is when it is on an HD channel that has the left and right verticle black bars. They seem a little wavy. Kind of like a vase shape. It is only a little noticable. Would the Sound & Vision Home Theater Tuneup or Avia help fix this problem?

Other than that, the only other thing is when the stupid TV stations have a widescreen show that still has the left and right black bars too along with the top and bottom black bars. I can get rid of the top and bottom bars by switching the picture mode, but then the picture stretches vertically and doesnt look as nice. So I end up stuck with a little screen surrounded by black bars. How come some widescreen shows take up the whole length of the TV while others are cut off? Is there a way to fix this?

Also, would a sony upconverting dvd VHS combo look better than a cheap Koss progressive scan DVD player?

Anyway, the picture looks nice! I love watching PBS and the nature shows! My daughter loves Qubo!

woudrew

02-07-07, 02:57 PM

shaftr

02-07-07, 05:37 PM

yearisyesterday

02-07-07, 09:52 PM

(((Note: I posted this earlier today on the LG 30fs4d board, and decided to put it up here too to hear from some Samsung owners. Any references to "this TV" refer to the LG 30" widescreen slim HDTV. Thanks in advance for your advice, and when this whole headache is over I will definitely try to make myself at least somewhat useful on these forums.)))

I have a question about this TV. I got it from Best Buy around New Years, and fairly soon afterward noticed a dark bar about 2" from the left side of the screen, running vertically across the entire screen, about 1" in width. Basically, that area of the screen is slightly darker than the rest; it's mostly noticeable when the screen is mostly white or when the camera is panning against a light-colored background. There are also similar blotches in other areas of the screen, but those are far less severe and really can only be seen in a pure white screen. Also, when the screen is very dark gray, the right segment (about the same percentage as would be covered by black bars in 4:3 aspect ratio) is noticeably brighter than the rest, but again this rarely becomes an issue. Unsure what the possible cause was, I kept quiet about it for a while; however, when I figured out I couldn't remove it, I went to Best Buy to have the TV replaced. They only had one in stock, and the delivery got delayed because of ice storms we were having. When they finally were able to deliver, they discovered that they had sold the only one by mistake, and they don't carry that TV anymore. They've offered me the Samsung, TX-S3082WH in exchange.

I've been reading this forum basically since I got the TV, but haven't posted until now since I hate to sign up for things, even if they're free. Anyway, my question basically boils down to, should I make the exchange? I've already agreed for them to come out this Friday, but they'll give me about 10 minutes to look at the new TV and see if it's worth it. I've heard of geometry issue with the Samsung; is it worth it to get rid of this dirty-looking picture? I'm a gamer, and a lot of games feature whiteout or camera pans...this problem really detracts from the impact of those effects. Also, what should I look for in the 10 minutes I have to make sure I get a good set for the Samsung?

Here are a list of my most important pros and cons for the LG:

Pros: *great sound from the speakers
*XD greatly increases sharpness in 480i/p images
*overall great picture quality, in my opinion
*very little noticeable geometry issues

Cons: *can't seem to adjust the brightness so that blacks aren't crushed, but whites aren't blinding (regardless of contrast setting)
*the dark stripe
*any bright images near the corners will be surrounded by a halo; this gets better as you move toward the center
*weird de-interlacing fragments on some PS2 games, leaving vertical stripes on anything flesh-toned
*had a loud buzzing for the first half-hour after I turned it on, but this got much better after a couple weeks

Will the Samsung be a fair trade? Should I keep the LG? Trading up to a more expensive model won't be an option, and my wife (who hates hearing about the problem) would kill me if I chose something like a smaller LCD instead. Thanks for all your help, and all the info that I've gleaned from your site over the past month!

P.S: Since I'm new here, I might not be posting in the best place. Please point me in a better direction if you want.

pennywise1982

02-08-07, 12:36 AM

New issue on my Sammy 30" slimfit TX-R3079WH I believe. Anytime I turn on or off I see faint horizontal white lines. Also when shutting off the picture goes off except for a Red dot dead center. The only noticable distortion of the picture is the source selection icon when changing is very distorted. Any thoughts on a possible cause/ solution?

I'm afraid its the picture tube that is dying. I had a problem similar to yours and it got worse with time until it was unwatchable. The white lines became more and more visible and the picture became ''blurrier''. You should call Samsung for repair if your set is still under warranty.

Honestly, these Slimfit models are abysmal. I can't believe a company like Samsung would release a product with so much flaws. Isn't there any quality control in that company ??

I know for sure that my slimfit will be my last Samsung TV even with all the praise the Samsung LCDs seem to get around the Net. They won't get another penny from me.

seanv927

02-08-07, 09:54 AM

[QUOTE=seanv927]

I might try to bribe them by promising to upgrade to a Samsung LCD (which I will do).

shaftr,
If I call samsung and tell them that my tech repairman can't fix the problem with the high pitch sound, I can ask them to forget about sending me a new slimfit tx-s30b2wh and let me purchase an upgrade? I guess I can just say that sending me another model like the one I have is only going to cause more issues down the road. That is reason enoughto let me take this TV off their hands for good! anything you can suggest I say or what department to talk to? Basically, just request a manager, right?

atpat

02-08-07, 10:11 AM

[QUOTE=shaftr]

shaftr,
If I call samsung and tell them that my tech repairman can't fix the problem with the high pitch sound, I can ask them to forget about sending me a new slimfit tx-s30b2wh and let me purchase an upgrade? I guess I can just say that sending me another model like the one I have is only going to cause more issues down the road. That is reason enoughto let me take this TV off their hands for good! anything you can suggest I say or what department to talk to? Basically, just request a manager, right?

From my experience with Samsung, they weren't receptive of my requests to upgrade to a different technology. They sent me two brand new Slimfits, defective out of the box. The only time they offered a different tech was when I told them I was fed up with the Slimfit and I demanded my money back. At that time they offered me a refurbished 30" LCD. I refused that and they ended up sending me a cheque for the total purchase price.

The experience you have may be different. I've seen another post in this thread where someone upgraded to LCD and paid the difference. I think they handle every case on an individual basis.

Good luck.

jonjonjanson

02-08-07, 12:30 PM

ChuloMan5

02-08-07, 09:58 PM

I have the TX-R3079WH and Comcast cable. When I watch shows like 24 and Law and Order on the HD channels my picture is very dark at times. If there is someone of dark skin it is very hard to make out any pigment in his or her skin. All of my standard def channels look fine. Also I never have experienced this problem watching DVDs or playing video games. Is this a problem with comcast or with my television?

I have Comcast cable and watch those shows and have no problem. How do you have the cable box hooked up to the TV? Just wondering if it's a Motorola box and if you've found solution for the DVI or HDMI output problem.

andydumi

02-09-07, 10:16 AM

Well my 3079 is officially getting replaced with a 3082. I was not able to let them let me upgrade to a DLP for extra money, they said all the different technlogies run off different lines and warranty plans, so you cant just cross exchange.
Well see how the 3082 works out, and I welcome the two HDMI inputs if nothing else.

shaftr

02-09-07, 06:57 PM

[QUOTE=shaftr]

shaftr,
If I call samsung and tell them that my tech repairman can't fix the problem with the high pitch sound, I can ask them to forget about sending me a new slimfit tx-s30b2wh and let me purchase an upgrade? I guess I can just say that sending me another model like the one I have is only going to cause more issues down the road. That is reason enoughto let me take this TV off their hands for good! anything you can suggest I say or what department to talk to? Basically, just request a manager, right?

I don't know. I'm trying different tactics but I think it depends on who you get on the phone. Some people have been helpful, others not. I'm basing my information on what one of the people told me. I'm just going to keep pestering them until they let me exchange it at best buy and upgrade.

infamous styles

02-09-07, 09:12 PM

need some opinions on what i should do. ive had my TX-R3079WH since july 2005. ive got a 3 year warranty through circuit city. i too am having similar problems with it. Geometry and there is a purple spot in the right hand corner of the tv. now this was an issue with me but i just said screw it and bought another tv (samsung plasma hp-S4253). i figured that i needed a tv and didnt want to be out of one for 3 weeks while its reparied. ive been reading a couple of your guy's posts about the "blacklist " for this tv. does anyone have any experience with circuit city warranties and how they usually work? now that i have the newer tv, i can afford to get this one fixed and be without it for a while. but if i could get a refund/credit to use towards another tv that would be fine too.

Colin_A

02-10-07, 03:04 PM

yearisyesterday

02-10-07, 09:41 PM

Just an update, they brought the Samsung by and at first I was really disappointed. Not only was the geometry off (it cuts off the bottom of the screen and underscans a lot from my PS2, plus there's some bowing at the bottom outside vertical edges), but it also exhibited the same minor problem with the dark area as the LG. I'm going to assume it has something to do with the area I'm living in, since there are no electronics near the TV aside from my DVD player and PS2.

Anyway, I eventually warmed up to the set, since the edges are a LOT less blurry than the LG, and the contrast ratio seems a lot more sane; everything else is pretty much the same. I'll be getting an Avia or DVE disc to fix the geometry. The only very minor thing that I don't really know how to fix is something that I noticed with my old SDTV and this one, but not the LG: whenever something white is on the screen, there will be faint ghost images of it trailing off to the right; a solid horizontal line will pretty much continue to the edge of the screen no matter where it's supposed to stop. Any suggestions which settings to adjust to fix that?

Also, the TV has blinked off and on a couple times, always while playing DVD's; is this something to be worried about? It turns off for just a split-second, and has done this a total of four times, seeming to be less and less frequent.

I'm a TERRIBLE decision-maker and waffler, so I can't ever seem to make a final choice between the two varieties. If I call Best Buy to reverse my decision AGAIN I think someone will kill me.

Atcguy21

02-11-07, 01:19 AM

seanv927

02-11-07, 12:22 PM

Just incase anyone was following my experience so far. I will be on my 3rd 3082WH...

Repair guy said I had the most perfect 3082 he'd ever seen as far as geometry goes, however the discoloration of reds is not fixable and it needs to be replaced. He described a very thin metal plate behind the glass that was somehow damaged and was causing it to happen. So much for nearly perfect geometry. :(

My experience with exchanging sets with circuit city have been very good, bring the reciept, manual, remote, and the set and they have no problem swapping it right over. This was in the standard 30 day policy though.

on your third 3082?? Wow, that is something else. I talked to a man (an executive customer sales manager) at suamsung and he told me that samsung has no idea that the 3082 has so many problems. My problem has been a high pitch sound. How can they not know of the problems if there are people on their third tv set?? I'm getting my second tv in a few days and if this one has problems, i'm going to blow up

Colin_A

02-11-07, 05:07 PM

Heh, my 1st one had the whine and would sporadically (what would seem like) powering off and then back on in a 1/4 second... pretty scary to watch.

Nunovyer Bidness

02-11-07, 10:20 PM

Well, BB sent a repair guy out to work on the geometry issues on my 2782, and while he straightened out some of the warping on the edges of the screen, it was at the expense of the alignment in the middle of the picture! However, he decided it was a bad deflection board, so I was given the option to have that replaced or do an exchange. Since my return window closes in three days, I decided to return the set and shop for a 26" LCD. (More funds diverted from the future car down payment, but oh well.) Now we just have to settle on the LG 26LX1D vs. the Samsung LN2641D. If Samsung included a QAM tuner I think my mind would be made up.

Hopefully this little drama will be over soon, after a moment of silence for the dearly departed 20" RCA (1988-2007) whose passing started the whole thing. "'E were a simple lad, not wot you'd call refined, but 'e knew 'is duty and 'e done it well..."

Anyway thanks for all your help!

fleason

02-12-07, 11:56 AM

Hello,

I bought a 3082 about ten days ago from Best Buy.

This is my first experience with HDTV and HDMI.

I'm using both HDMI inputs, one from the Comcast DVR, one from the DVD player.

That's it.

The problem: After the TV has been on for at least an hour or so, the audio becomes out of sync with the video. Just slightly at first, and then it gets more pronounced. Turning the TV off and back on helps, but the problem returns, sooner than before.

Anyone else run into this or know of a fix?

Thanks!!
I have same problem.

Samsung recently warranty replaced my txr3079 with a txs3080. I have my DirecTV HD STB (H-10) attached with an HDMI cable. The longer the TV is on, the longer the visual (leading) audio delay becomes. Unplugging the TV for 30 seconds seems to reset the delay, but it builds again. After several hours, it is more than a half second. It is not only visually noticable, but if you turn the volume on both the TV and Receiver (optical from STB to Receiver) you can hear the delay echo. It is as if a bit bucket was filling up, and it only gets emptied when you turn the set off.

This audio delay was not a problem with the txr3079. (However, neither the txr3079 nor txs3080 are able to process a DD signal from the STB via HDMI.) Late at night, I like setting sleep and listening to only the TV speakers.

I would like to know if anyone else is having this problem before I call Samsung service. When I called on my previous TV they always cast aspersions on the DirecTV STB.

Unfettered

02-12-07, 02:14 PM

Okay all! I've posted my problem here before. I finally got a call from Samsung about my 3082 replacement. They gave me two choices, they said I can either have Samsung send me a new TV to my house, or go to Best Buy where I bought it and exchange it. I asked them if I could upgrade to an LCD instead, they said it's totally up to Best Buy if they'll let me do that. I got a call from Best Buy with the exchange confirmation number, I can go to any Best Buy and give them that number with my old 3082 and get a new one. I'm going to definitely ask if I can get an LCD instead and just pay the difference. Best Buy is usually pretty good about that.

I exchanged my Slimfit for an LCD at Best Buy as BB also allowed me a prorated warranty refund. I'd recommend anyone with extended warranties to check with the place they bought their sets. If I had allowed the exchange from Samsung without Best Buy in the loop, then my warranty money would have been gone.

shaftr

02-12-07, 02:17 PM

Did they take the cost of the TV you bought at what it is now or what it was when you purchased it?

yearisyesterday

02-14-07, 12:13 PM

Okay, I think I'm going to have to exchange this TV again, because it's been sporadically powering itself off for a split-second, sort of like a degaussing thing, but when it happens in the middle of a movie or game it can be really annoying. I've been looking at the Westinghouse 27" LCD (27W7) to replace it, or try again with another Samsung. I don't really feel like going back to the LG, since the sides aren't nearly as sharp and it's much harder to customize to my liking...plus, since mine was the last one, I don't want to get back a TV that's been carted around all over the place and maybe even installed on the showroom floor. I am very disappointed with my TV shopping experiences...it seems that you just can't get a quality product at under $1000. I can understand smaller screen size and all that, but I at least expect the TV to work right, no matter what I pay for it.

guybo

02-15-07, 05:14 AM

Samsung is really dragging thier feet on my replacement. The blinking off and on for a split second thing is not getting worse (it did for a while) but it is not getting better either- it's reached a plateau of suck. I think the prob I am having is the same that a lot of others here are having too.

The replacement has been autorized Samsung- where the hell is it?

yearisyesterday

02-15-07, 09:53 AM

So you're saying the blinking off is happening to you too, and that Samsung has confirmed that it isn't supposed to be happening? I just want to know because I don't think Best Buy believes me that my TV has anything wrong with it. I think they figure that, since I exchanged a defective TV from another brand for this, I'm just making stuff up. When I told them what was going on, they literally said "Ours doesn't do that." Then when I said I was starting to doubt the reliability of slim tube technology, they retorted that they hadn't received any complaints or returns whatsoever. Since I can't bring it there myself (don't have a car), it's rather tedious trying to get a replacement or a refund, and I haven't yet decided what to do.

It's a shame, because it's really a nice TV otherwise; the geometry aside from the initial overscan/underscan is pretty good except on the very edges, plus the TV seems to correct itself as it runs (unless that's just a lucky coincidence), and overall the geometry to me isn't as noticeable as the blurry edges on the LG were (besides, that stretched the picture on the edges as well, it just did it uniformly). I'm very hesitant to try to exchange this TV for a new one since the new one might have worse geometry; at the very least, I'm going to go down there and get a receipt for this transaction so that I can verify my warranty with Samsung if the problem worsens down the line. Does anybody know if I need anything else, such as the original packaging (the delivery guy used it to haul off my old TV)?

Who agrees with me that we as consumers shouldn't have to settle for a TV with defects such as this just because we can't afford a plasma? I grew up using "budget" TV's, and while the didn't have all the bells and whistles, they at least had a consistent picture and no noticeable defects out of the box. Now that the industry (TV for most, gaming for me) is pretty much forcing people to go HD, it seems like there isn't a single quality product in my price range.

fivestarav

02-15-07, 03:23 PM

Hello, all -

I've been reading up on the TX-S2782H for quite a while now. I kinda wanna get one. (I'm on a budget.) Anyhow, I just went to the Samsung website to do more pondering and noticed a model called the TX-S2779H with the word "NEW" next to it. The specs of the two look exactly the same except one of them has an extra HDMI input.

Am I missing something? What's the big difference between these two models, and is the 79H really the newer 27" model? Anyone know? Thanks.

rubenmorenojr1

02-16-07, 10:21 AM

I got the TX-S2782H. It is worth it. Great picture and an awsome tuner. If it breaks, you can probably get Samsung to replace it with a new TXT-2793 when they come out. So your not really missing out on anything. The 79H is the older model.

rubenmorenojr1

02-16-07, 03:32 PM

Hey! New samsung slimfit specs are on the samsung website!

rubenmorenojr1

02-16-07, 03:50 PM

Looks like they have a 20" slimfit now. As far as the other sizes go, it looks like they only added some connections (USB 1.1). I wonder if the geometry issues were resolved?

fivestarav

02-16-07, 04:19 PM

Hmmmmmm.....it looks like the new TX-T2793H will be available in April. Guess we'll find out then. Thanks!

Colin_A

02-16-07, 09:01 PM

WOW! Maybe the news ones won't have suck ass reliability!

mabris

02-17-07, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by ChuloMan5
I have a problem that I'm hoping someone can help me out with... I have the TV hooked up to my stereo and the audio coming through the stereo doesn't match up with the audio coming out of the TV's speakers. There is a lag in the stereo audio. I've tried a couple different wires but that didn't do anything. Any suggestions? Thanks.
I don't know if anyone replied yet to this, but there is an audio delay option in the service menu that should solve your problem.

Colin_A

02-17-07, 11:17 AM

It might help, but if it is fine to begin with, and then gets worse and worse I don't think a setting like that it going to fix it.

Ben N

02-17-07, 07:36 PM

I bought the 3082 a week ago at Best Buy. It seemed fine at first but then I noticed that in the upper left quadrant the color was off and it got worse to the point that anyone who was in that portion of the screen had green skin. It was a round spot near the top a little left of center. I called Samsung but they said they had never heard of the problem and promised to contact a repair place. Meanwhile I got fed up with it and in my reading aroudn ehre it seemed like a problem that might not be able to be fixed, so today I took it back to BB and got a different one. This one has the exact same problem!

Has anyone else had this problem? Is this just a normal color issue that I can adjust using the service menu (or even just the regular menu?)

If I go in to the service menu and bring up the test screens, the all red and all green test screens are faint in that area but the all blue test screen is perfect.

I had held off on buying this tv because of all the problems I had read about, but I took the plunge this week because the price was so good. Am I just asking for trouble and should take it back and get an lcd? Should I call Samsung again and get a tech out to look at it?

Thanks!

Colin_A

02-17-07, 09:02 PM

Are you sure its not something in your environment thats causing it? I've had two with different problems but 2 with the same exact problem, and in the same spot.

Do you have a speaker or any kind of appliance that might be causing it?

That being said, the tech will tell you that its a problem with the tube, and since Samsung doesn't sell just the tube, it needs to be replaced... if the 1st solution goes nowhere.

Ben N

02-17-07, 11:28 PM

See, this is why I need the internet. I swear I'm a smart guy and all, but why did it not occur to think about the Bose system sitting a few inches above that spot?

So I've unplugged it and the problem didn't immediately go away, but I'm going to let the tv rest for the night. Is there a way to get the tv to degauss or does it just do it every once in a while on its own?

The Bose makes sense because the problem didn't appear right away and on the first set I only started noticing it while watching a dvd which used the Bose while watching the regular tv wasn't hooked up yet.

Are you sure its not something in your environment thats causing it? I've had two with different problems but 2 with the same exact problem, and in the same spot.

Do you have a speaker or any kind of appliance that might be causing it?

That being said, the tech will tell you that its a problem with the tube, and since Samsung doesn't sell just the tube, it needs to be replaced... if the 1st solution goes nowhere.

yearisyesterday

02-19-07, 11:17 AM

If you have the same model as I do, it should degauss every time you turn it on. In fact, mine seems to sometimes feel the need to degauss while I'm in the middle of watching it; it's gone away for now, but if it comes back I'm returning it and spending a little extra on a cheap LCD. Anyway, I'd suggest turning it on and checking on it after a few hours.

kapali290

02-19-07, 01:38 PM

I've had the tv for approximately 3 weeks with great results (no geometry issues). However, just recently the tv has a buzzing sound coming from the back. Some days it is very low others it is relatively noticeable. Anyone else have this same problem? Is it something to worry about?

Thanks
Steve

I recently bought a 30" slimfit (appox 4 months ago) luck for me I bought a service contract because my TV would not keep time or the audio output was not working. My other issue was a buzzing sound, CC blamed the noise on my cable company. CC came to my house to replace all the guts on the TV. When the tech was finishing up, with no cables or anything hooked up, my TV made the buzzing noise again. This time he diagnosed the problem as a BAD picture tube. So now I am waiting for Samsung to sent me a R.A. so I can reselect a new TV.
This time it will be a Panasonic or a Hitachi. The reason is I went to CC to pick up a Valentines gift, and the guy ahead of me was there to return his TV. I asked him why? he said it was his 3rd TV he was exchanging. What kind? It was a 40"Samsung LCD. An CC employee said "We cringe everytime a Samsung TV goes out the Door" . I think its safe to say Samsung has a few issues to work out. So this time no Samsung for me. :mad:

aesculanus

02-19-07, 02:37 PM

Ben N

02-19-07, 09:50 PM

So I unhooked the Bose and it seemed better (maybe just my imagination) but it was still there. So I went ahead and moved all the speakers to my basement (you should have seen the colors as I moved the subwoofer in front of the tv, it was pretty).

But the problem persisted.....

So I'm contemplating that maybe my chimney right next to the tv has some sort of magnetic thing going on, or something when all of the sudden it hits me like a ton of bricks. My son's favorite storage place for all his Magnetix? The drawer right under the tv.

Go ahead and laugh, but at least now the picture is perfect.

(For the childless, Magnetix are these rod magnets that are super strong that you can build cool stuff out of)

I had to tell the person who helped me load up the old tv and take it back to best buy and get the new tv in the house. I think she might hate me forever.

Colin_A

02-20-07, 10:53 AM

Haha, well, at least you can be glad that its something you were able to fix.

julio388

02-20-07, 07:20 PM

Pixelworks Announces Design Win with Samsung for New ‘Bluejay’ Co-Processor IC for Slim CRT Televisions
TUALATIN, Ore.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Pixelworks, Inc. (NASDAQ:PXLW), an innovative provider of powerful video and pixel processing technology for advanced televisions and digital projectors, announced today that Samsung has chosen its new co-processor IC for two slim CRT television models. The PW9050L chip, codenamed ‘Bluejay,’ complements Pixelworks ImageProcessor ICs for advanced CRTs by introducing its proprietary Digital Horizontal Correction, or DHC™, technology for digitally pre-processing video signals to eliminate distortion in slim CRTs.

Samsung Electronics recently introduced two new SlimFit™ CRT televisions featuring the PW9050L co-processor chip that use Samsung’s innovative cathode-ray tube which reduces tube depth by more than 30 percent. The first two SlimFit widescreen models, measuring 29-inches and 32-inches diagonally, feature vibrant colors and crisp video images even in the corners where the scanning beam is at maximum deflection. Samsung selected the PW9050L because it overcomes a significant technical hurdle of picture uniformity through its unique DHC technology.

Samsung was able to accurately customize the deflection requirements using Pixelworks’ DHC technology and integrated test patterns to perfect the image on any slim cathode ray tube. In addition, DHC technology uses unique algorithms to enhance brightness in the corners to enable even picture levels. The PW9050L chip is capable of operating at up to 120 Hz and handling 30-bit RGB input in advanced CRT systems for full high-definition support.

“At Samsung we are continuing to drive innovations for CRTs which will continue to keep the technology competitive. Pixelworks’ expertise in image shaping is what made the Bluejay chip possible and we believe these SlimFit CRT models offer the industry’s best performance,” said S.S. Lee, Vice President of Samsung’s Projection and CRT Division.

“We are excited about introducing the PW9050L chip because it represents a completely new approach to processing images in CRTs that can make slim CRTs perform at much higher level. A tier-one design win with a company of Samsung’s stature provides further evidence of the value of our co-processor capability and strategy,” said Hans Olsen, President and CEO of Pixelworks, Inc. “The market for slim CRTs is projected to grow from less than 8 million units in 2006 to more than 35 million units in 2010 for a compounded annual growth rate exceeding 45 percent. With Bluejay and its unique DHC technology we see a new market potential for our products that can add incremental revenue in 2007 and beyond.”

The PW9050L Co-Processor IC for slim CRT television applications is now in production. To learn more about these products, contact the Pixelworks sales office in your region. A list of contacts is available at www.pixelworks.com.

About Pixelworks, Inc.

Pixelworks, headquartered in Tualatin, Oregon, is an innovative provider of powerful video and pixel processing technology for manufacturers of advanced televisions and digital projectors. Pixelworks’ flexible design architecture enables our unique technology to produce outstanding image quality in our customers’ display products in a range of solutions including system-on-chip ICs, co-processor ICs and discrete chips. At design centers in Shanghai and San Jose, Pixelworks engineers relentlessly push pixel performance to new levels for leading manufacturers of consumer electronics and professional displays worldwide.

For more information, please visit the company’s Web site at www.pixelworks.com.

Pixelworks® and DHC™ are trademarks of Pixelworks, Inc. SlimFit is the trademark of Samsung Electronics.

Safe Harbor Statement

This release contains statements that are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the “Safe Harbor” provisions of the federal Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such statements are based on current expectations, estimates and projections about the company’s business. These statements are not guarantees of future performance and involve certain risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict. Actual results could vary materially from the description contained herein due to many factors including those described above and the following: changes in growth in the slim CRT market; changes in consumer confidence and spending, changes in customer ordering patterns or lead times; success in achieving operating efficiencies from our restructuring efforts; competitive factors, such as rival chip architectures, introduction or traction by competing designs, or pricing pressures; insufficient, excess or obsolete inventory and variations in inventory valuation; yield rates for the PW9050L, changes in regional demand for that product, non-acceptance of the DHC technology by other leading manufacturers; and other risk factors listed from time to time in the company’s Securities and Exchange Commission filings.

The forward-looking statements we make today, speak as of today, and we do not undertake any obligation to update any such statements to reflect events or circumstances occurring after today. Please refer to our Annual Report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2005 and subsequent SEC filings for a description of factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from the preliminary results announced.

Contacts
Pixelworks, Inc.
Michael Yonker, 503-454-4515 (Investor Inquiries)
myonker@pixelworks.com
Chris Bright, 503-454-1770 (Media Inquiries)
cbright@pixelworks.com
www.pixelworks.com

julio388

02-20-07, 07:25 PM

So, the last technical hurdle inflicting slimfit crt has been solved. this overcomes a significant technical hurdle of picture uniformity through its unique DHC technology.

Colin_A

02-20-07, 07:35 PM

So... where are these TVs? I don't see a 32" model listed on the website...

julio388

02-20-07, 07:47 PM

32" is 30 and 29" is 27. They are counting the other 2 inches you don't see, inside the cabinet. European and asia and oversea uses these numbers.

Colin_A

02-20-07, 07:58 PM

Oh, OK, I see now.

fivestarav

02-20-07, 11:21 PM

julio388

02-20-07, 11:40 PM

when the new models hits the market on april and march 2007. hello, I hope this eliminate those terrible distortion plaguing slimfit.

masstch

02-21-07, 01:27 AM

Wow, what a thread! Nearly two years in the making!
So, here I am...my introduction to the SlimFit world happened two days ago when I went to Sam's (after looking at BB, CC, WW, and even BigK) trying to find a good picture on a CRT SDTV for around three hundred. I saw this Samsung picture and was blown away by it. This set was in the middle of a line of ten 37~42" Plasmas costing 1200+ each and the picture on this thing made them all look smokey and dull. The icing on the cake was the "open-box" pricing of $350. I just HAD to buy it and the fact that it was HDTV sealed the deal. I've just recently been buying components and setting up speakers for my HT and planning to get a bigscreen HDTV at some later date. I am a Happy Camper indeed...or at least I was until I googled for info and found this forum (!) and read the unhappy SlimFit Saga. Now, I have found none of the issues discussed here to be evident in my TV yet, but I don't feel truly confident after all that I've read.
The set is a TX-S2779H. This unit was sold to me as 'new' but I'm bettin it was a returned set. What is the opinion around here on keeping it (28 more days of easy return available). Yes, its working great so far, no geometry problems/guass issues/PQ problems BUT it must be quite old,eh?
I'm wondering if it WERE to start acting up, whats the likelihood of Samsung offering an U/G to another or newer model?
Any thoughts?

masstch

andydumi

02-21-07, 10:21 AM

So wait a minute. Are they saying that the PixelWorks chip:

A) Has been in the 27" TX-S2782H and TX-S2779H all along...

B) Will be in the 27" TX-S2782H and TX-S2779H from this point on...

or

C) Won't be in the 27" Slim-Fit until the new TX-T2793H drops in April?

More than likely C. The current models are getting discontinued, and stores have them on clearance/open box to get rid of them at low prices. So I am assuming the new TVs will have the new chip and hopefully much improved picture. Otherwise, by looking at the specs, not much has changed, except we now have a USB port added.

I'm wondering if it WERE to start acting up, whats the likelihood of Samsung offering an U/G to another or newer model?
Any thoughts?

masstch

They are very willing to give you the latest one if there are problems with the old one. Our 3079 had issues so we are getting a new 3082 in the next couple pf days. If it acts up I will change it for a 93 in April/May.

yearisyesterday

02-21-07, 11:23 AM

andydumi

02-21-07, 11:58 AM

Well, that's nice. Hopefully mine breaks down and I have to get it replaced. ;) Having fixed most of the geometry issues in the service menu, the only annoying thing left is horizontal lines that are visible near the edge of the screen (they disappear at the very edge where the slight blur occurs). It's not a big problem, but it can be annoying when somebody's face suddenly becomes pixellated because they're standing on the side of the picture.

I dont think thats going to change. These slimfits have very high resolution in the center 50% or so of the screen and then they get less and less resolution towards the edges. I think its just an inherent problem with tubes, nothing that can be fixed without going to some other technology. That being said I agree with you, when watching something on a ticker you can tell its sharper at the center than when it moves to the edge of the screen, and same with faces, they suddenly lose resolution when the camera pans across the face.
I am hoping to move to a DLP and retire the slimfit to the bedroom, where slight problems in terms of geometry should not make a difference.

Atcguy21

02-21-07, 02:42 PM

Okay all! I've posted my problem here before. I finally got a call from Samsung about my 3082. 30" replacement. They gave me two choices, they said I can either have Samsung send me a new TV to my house, or go to Best Buy where I bought it and exchange it. I asked them if I could upgrade to an LCD instead, they said it's totally up to Best Buy if they'll let me do that. I got a call from Best Buy with the exchange confirmation number, I can go to any Best Buy and give them that number with my old 3082 and get a new one. I'm going to definitely ask if I can get an LCD instead and just pay the difference. Best Buy is usually pretty good about that.

Okay So Finally I took my 3082 to BB this Presidents Day (Monday). The manager did my exchange paperwork. I told him I wanted to buy a beter one and just pay the difference in price. He said yea, no problem. So I was like Heck yea! I looked thru the rows of Tv's. Ther was a Sony Wega,HD widescreen Tube TV 32" for like 999. I seriously considered it. But it looked really heavy, and it didn't have as many featues as the Samsung 3082 Slimfit such as two HDMI inputs. So I looked at the LCD TV's and found a Samsung. 32" HD Widewcreen. I went thru the features it had and looked at the back to see whatk ind of inputs/outputs it had. I really was starting to like this one. It had great picture I didn't notice any issues with it. Okay, to make a long story short. I got it. I bought a Samsung LCD HDTV 32" Model #LNS3251DX/X for $1299 Considering I paid $700 for the SLimfit, I thought this was a good upgrade. And they just let me pay the difference. I got this TV home, set it up and and WoW. I have Dishnetwork but I dont subscribe for HD channels. I bought an indoor amplified antenna. I live in the LA/Orange County area. and there are 60 HD/Digital TV channels being broadcast for free over the air. Its like better than basic cable! So Whenever I want to watch Prison Break or 24 or Heroes. I just switch it to the antenna and I have HD. There's even a music video channel and a cartoon network type channel called FUNimation. But this TV is great, U know when your watching a widescreen program then a commercial comes on that isn't widescreen so it puts black bars on the side on My old slimfit the picture was all wavy on the sides. But this LCD is PERFECTLY Straight. No problems at all.
it only has a 4000:1 contrast Ratio. I wish it 10,000:1 but its still a damn good picture. I'm very happy with this Tv. MY old Slimfit wouldn't keep the time, this new does, my Slimfit didn't have a headphone out jack. this one does. I need that because when my roomate goes to sleep early I can still watch great TV or play PS2 with my headphones on. I'm going to wait until the end of the year or beginning of next year to get a PS3 and can't wait to see that on HD. I need to get an HD Dvd Player First.

bakkaiwei

02-22-07, 12:55 AM

I have lost my original factory settings for the 720 and 1080 resolution can anyone help PM me your original settings???
I know the settings could be different. but at least it would not be that far off??
And it seems there is no service manual to purchase also. Does anyone know where i can get one other than ManualsParadise??

Thrillhouse17

02-22-07, 08:38 AM

I hope that this hasn't been asked yet...but this thread is now 60+ pages.

I'm thinking of getting one of these primarly for gaming. How does the image, at 1080i, fair? Are there overscan issues?

andydumi

02-22-07, 11:17 AM

But this LCD is PERFECTLY Straight. No problems at all.

LCDs are like computer monitors, there are absolutely no geometry problems, because all the pixels are perfectly aligned. This is normal. The loss compared to tubes though is in terms of brightness and contrast capabilities.

Atcguy21

02-22-07, 02:14 PM

Thanks for setting me straight Andy. :)

fivestarav

02-22-07, 04:15 PM

"Pixelworks, Inc. (NASDAQ:PXLW), an innovative provider of powerful video and pixel processing technology for advanced televisions and digital projectors, announced today that Samsung has chosen its new co-processor IC for two slim CRT television models."

Does anyone know which two models will have the new "Bluejay" chip? The spec sheet for the upcoming 27" TX-T2793H makes no mention of it.

BoSoxMole

02-23-07, 11:59 PM

What are everyone's settings?

Colin_A

02-24-07, 08:19 AM

What are everyone's settings?
For what?

If it has anything to do with the PQ, then every set is different and our won't do you much good.

homerrulez

02-24-07, 09:11 AM

get calibration dvd, pop it in and you are good to go. Try these. Contrast at 60% less than full blast, sharpness about 85% less than full blast, and brightness about 70% minus from full blast :) . Once you get those numbers, experiment from there by adding a couple and minusing a couple. Let your eye be the judge!

Colin_A

02-24-07, 12:37 PM

Wouldn't it just be easier to say:

contrast 40%
sharpness 15%
brightness 30%

seanv927

02-24-07, 02:18 PM

Colin_A

02-24-07, 05:10 PM

My 1st 3082 had a nasty high pitch whine. I just returned it to circuit city, but you'll probably have to call samsung since you've had it more then 30 days.

I didn't get that ringing "syndrome" like you though, thats just wierd.

homerrulez

02-25-07, 06:20 AM

Wouldn't it just be easier to say:

contrast 40%
sharpness 15%
brightness 30%

yes but i work in oposites!

you know girls are guys and guys are girls...wait nevermind! :eek:

since when do I ever makes thinsg easy?

Colin_A

02-25-07, 08:28 AM

yes but i work in oposites!

you know girls are guys and guys are girls...wait nevermind! :eek:

since when do I ever makes thinsg easy?
Walking away... ;)

AndreHD

02-25-07, 09:27 AM

You really can't go by the way it looks in the stores - the signal is split to possibly dozens of sets and you don't know how good the raw feed is in the first place. When i was looking at 32" HD-ready TVs two years ago almost all of em looked less than perfect and some looked downright awful. The TV i ended up buying looked poor in the stores but when i hooked it up in my living room the picture was excellent. Had i gone by the picture quality i saw in stores i would not have bought anything.

I would only buy a TV from a store with a good return policy so if it turns out to be crappy you can exchange it or get a refund and try a different brand.

I agree 100%. I tell this to people looking to buy an HDTV. When I was buying mine, the CRTs in the stores looked cloudier than the more expensive LCDs which looked RAZOR sharp. The LCDs were out of my price range, so I got the CRT FIGURING I was getting a HUGE drop down from the LCD. I got the TV home...hooked up the Monster component cables to the High Def cable box...wait a second :D...went to the Discovery Channel High Def Theatre and watched some nature show (wildlife is THE BEST shows to have high def for), and it had the SAME razor-quality that I saw on the LCD! I couldn't believe it! Same glistening droplets of water, same high definition in the strands of fur...then I realized that the stores must have had a crappy connection due to the multiple tvs hooked up, or the intention was to make the more expensive LCDs appear better looking :D! Now when I go to the stores, I never see a TV with a picture that appears that much clearer than mine, and in a lot of cases their WORSE because of the poor hookups the stores have! There was only ONE tv that I looked at and said "wow, that picture is a little clearer than mine". I was at Sears, and it was Sony 40" LCD that was playing a BLUE RAY disc. That I can honestly say was about 30% better quality. But that coulda been just because of the Blue-Ray disc quality, not the actual High Def channel signals. But 99.9% of the TVs in the stores had the same or worse picture clarity than my home-made connection. So yeah, NEVER go on the the picture quality from the store connections!

Lindon

02-25-07, 08:57 PM

kfm423

02-25-07, 10:44 PM

GebLX

02-26-07, 02:32 AM

I was eye balling a TX-S3082WH at BB yesterday and had a question. I also eventually planing on getting a PS3 and heard from somewhere that I wouldn't be able to play blu-ray discs via HDMI on this set? Is this true?

You should be able to, that is the whole purpose of HDMI so that you can play Blu-ray movies with no problems.

GebLX

02-26-07, 02:37 AM

The new Samsung SlimFit TVs are now on the main website, the TX-3092WH, TX-3093WH and TX-2793H. I'm guessing these are the models that use the new IC chip that was posted earlier to fix major issues. I think I'm going to wait until these, at least the two 30" models, hit the stores before deciding on what TV to upgrade too. Finally got a chance to hook-up my PS3 to a 37" LG TV, wasn't too impressed at all with the black level. If these TV turn out good, I'll be sticking with CRT for a little bit longer.

Lindon

02-26-07, 07:07 PM

Cable guy came to check out the clicking problem. It was fixed by disconnecting the power chord from the cable box for 10 seconds. Cause.......who knows, he said it could be anything from static electricity or installation of electronic dog fence next door. At least I'll know what to do if it happens again.

Libersolis

02-27-07, 08:16 AM

yearisyesterday

02-27-07, 10:09 AM

I can't give you factory settings because there aren't any; it's different for every TV. However, I can help you try to get it to look the best you can. First, write down the settings now, because you could end up making it even worse. Then put on a test pattern utilizing a grid of straight lines from a calibration DVD. You want to focus on the center lines first, by adjusting bow and angle. Then, adjust H parabola and H trapezium until the left and right edges are straight. If the top and bottom ends of lines are off, adjust upper corner and low corner. Again, do the center first, because that's what's going to be most marred by incorrect geometry. Finally, you can adjust V-linearity and V SC if the distance between the lines is off on some part of the screen. After all that, fix things like V amp, V shift, H amp, H shift, and tilt so that the image is centered.

*Note: this is pretty much straight from the service manual. You can try somebody else's settings, but know that they will not be accurate for your TV. Also, you shouldn't try to adjust geometry without some sort of cross-hatch pattern unless you're strictly looking at overscan.

justsc

02-27-07, 10:17 AM

Libersolis

02-27-07, 10:28 AM

Thanks for the advice. What would be the best calibration CD and can I do it from an XBOX 360 DVD player? I just want to know I can get my TV back to half way decent, even though it had issues to begin with.

justsc

02-27-07, 11:01 AM

Depends on your level of experience with this. When I was a newbie I purchased Sound & Vision's Home Theater Tuneup and it did wonders for my Samsung set. I had to watch all my favorite dvds all over again as it seemed I had a new tv. Avia I'd say would be for those with a little more experience, and DVE for the most experienced. As you go up this ladder, the dvds provide less and less explanation as to what the test patterns do assuming a certain level of experience on the user's part. But I still use the Home Theater Tuneup quite often.

And, yes, it can be run from the XBOX 360 DVD Player.

Libersolis

02-27-07, 11:04 AM

seanv927

03-03-07, 12:48 PM

We've owned the SlimFit TX-3079 for over one year now, and have been satisfied with it. However, recently intermittent clicking (interference?) sounds have been coming out of the speakers. Some forums have suggested that the HD cable box may be the problem. I've turned the box off, but the clicking sounds remain. Anyone else experiencing this problem with the SlimFit?

Dude you are in trouble. My tv tarted with that sound, then progressed to a major high pitch wailing sound from hell. If that sound starts, dont even bother with a tv tech. argue with a manager until you get them to send you a new model. If that sound never develops, you are very lucky

Colin_A

03-03-07, 01:58 PM

Guys I have totally screwed the geometry on my Samsung TX-S3082WH. I can't seem to get it to go back to the way it was ( I know I should have written it down) Does anyone have any factory settings for this TV or can you post your settings? I have only had this TV for about a week or so, so hopefully it isn't damaged for good. I havent messed with any colors, I just wanted to try and fix the massive geometry problems it came with out of box and now I have made it worse
With the advice the guys here have given you, you should definitly get it back to original/better condition then it was when you got it. Don't be afraid to take a lot of time tweaking it though, it took me quite a while to get it right.

Only thing I can add is to wait a while until the TV is up to temp before tweaking. I find that when I 1st turn mine on I notice its off, but then after it heats up its perfect again.

andydumi

03-04-07, 03:30 PM

We finally got the replacement 3082 for the 3079 with the purple corner.
Its been two months now since the TV went away... so its about time.

Looks great so far, some geometry issues, but a few hours today or tomorrow ought to fix that. Ill let you guys know how it turns out.
Also, is there a service manual for the 3082? The search did not turn up anything.

Colin_A

03-04-07, 04:06 PM

Two MONTHS you were without a TV because of a Samsung replacement?

andydumi

03-04-07, 07:49 PM

Yes. The service guys picked up the TV January 8th or so, they declared it unfixable about February 10th and i picked it up on Friday, otherwise they said they could not deliver for about 1-2 weeks more.

Now I have some questions about the new TV.

We have Comcast cable, and a Motorola 3416 DVR. Anyone know what the code is for the Samsung remote to control the Motorola cable box? I tried the manual recommended 064 for STB from Motorola with no success, probably due to the Comcast remote/branding.
//Update// I have managed to get the Sammy remote to control the Comcast Dvr by setting it up on the Cable button, with the Jerrold remote code 038. Its not perfect (the play/pause are mapped to the left/right/up/down navigation buttons, exit does not work, but its pretty close). 039 only does channels and the GI code does not work, nor do the Universal ones.

Also, when we hook up the cable box via HDMI, everything works just fine until I change the source input to anything and try to return to HDMI/Cable. Then the TV displays a brief second of "colored snow" and goes to "no signal message". So I either have to re power the TV or the cable box to get HDMI signal again. It seems like a handshake problem between the devices, any solutions? So far I hooked up the cable through component as the old TV was ....

Thanks.

Colin_A

03-05-07, 12:07 AM

Not to distract from his post, I have a quick question regarding teh deflection settings in the service menu.

My picture looks every so slightly like this: >== (the top left and bottom left bow up and down respectively.) Which settings should be used to try and correct this issue without distorting the rest of it too much?

Also, on the very edge of the right of the screen there is a significant gain in contrast (like its concentrated). Now, I know that this is a deflection issue since when I was playing with the settings initially, if I ran something in way far, or shifted the screen way far one way I could get a similar reaction from it. The only thing is now, the image is perfectly centered.

Any advise is welcome! thanks!

BoSoxMole

03-05-07, 02:06 AM

For what?

If it has anything to do with the PQ, then every set is different and our won't do you much good.
Gee, I don't know, your SlimFit TV?

And yes, not everyone has the same set. But it doesn't hurt to give your settings.

See, I got a calibration disc and I am having trouble with it. I just don't have the eye for it. My blacks are all messed up and it's pissing me off because I can't figure it out. At first I thought it was a discs fault, then I started to notice it A LOT.

Err, I'll just throw in the DVE and mess around with it for a few hours. It sucks because I don't have the color thing they give you, I lost it.

shaftr

03-05-07, 12:12 PM

Jarrod_38

03-05-07, 01:29 PM

I'm a proud owner of a new Samsung SlimFit 30". The model number is TX-S3082WH . :)

guybo

03-06-07, 11:54 AM

Samsung support is horrible. I would not recommend anyone buy a Samsung Slimfit TV. I started having probs 2 months ago and since then I have been lied to about call backs, return emails and product warranty details.

Samasung support has used delay tactics such as keeping me on hold for 80 minutes (yes- that's right), saying they will retunr the call and not doing it.

My TV still blinks every 30 minutes or so and Samasung does not want to honor the warranty. At this point I am looking for my money back. I am going to buy a Sony. Slimfit TV's are **** and Samsung's product support is worse than any other product that I have ever had to use a warranty on.

Do not buy this product

If you have to use the warranty- Do not trust this company and force the issue.

justsc

03-06-07, 02:25 PM

Is this something that can be purchased anywhere or does it have to be ordered? I have heard some people refer to tune ups that come with DVD movies, but I am unsure if this would be a correct way to fix my problem.
Any of these can be ordered from Amazon.com.

I don't mess with the calibrators that come with certain movies becuase they are set-up for just making that particular movie look good. Using a more generic calibration disc allows you to get your set aligned with NTSC standards.

masstch

03-06-07, 02:25 PM

I have to admit I bailed(!) I've had my SlimFit for only a few weeks and was very impressed with it's pQ. All the threads I've been reading have made me worry that it would crap out and the reports re: CS are scary. Then last week it started turning green...I fiddled with cables (HDMI) and settings and receiver (Onk674).etc..
Sams said 'bring it back' and they had a killer deal on a 1080P LCD so I jumped on it. Sorry for being a traitor, but it just seemed the right time to go.

justsc

03-06-07, 02:27 PM

seanv927

03-10-07, 02:29 AM

Ugh, finally, finally I'll be getting a new tv. I pleaded with getting an upgrade to an LCD but they wouldn't allow it. So instead, I'll have a 3082 replace my 3079 and I can't say I'm happy about it. I will have 90 days to evaluate it once I get it, so hopefully any problems will crop up in those 3 months.

I guess I should be happy that I'm finally getting an exchange, but I'm scared to death of another Slimfit model.

Sorry to hear that you couldn't upgrade. You were the one who told me that I shoul ddemand an upgrade, and I did. I amgetting the LN S3251D LCD. they did charge me $350. I am pissed about that, though. I demanded it be a free upgrade. Bascially, my SECOND 3082 slimfit has issues too! its weird, but the issues kinda stopped. The high pitch sound startef after the second day. thats when i called and demanded an upgrade. I jesty demanded to speak with a executive customer care manager. why didn;t they let you upgrade?

shaftr

03-10-07, 11:29 AM

Sorry to hear that you couldn't upgrade. You were the one who told me that I shoul ddemand an upgrade, and I did. I amgetting the LN S3251D LCD. they did charge me $350. I am pissed about that, though. I demanded it be a free upgrade. Bascially, my SECOND 3082 slimfit has issues too! its weird, but the issues kinda stopped. The high pitch sound startef after the second day. thats when i called and demanded an upgrade. I jesty demanded to speak with a executive customer care manager. why didn;t they let you upgrade?

Are you serious? Well, I just got my 3082 so I have 90 days until that warranty goes out. I'm having a little bit of geometry issues with the 3082, the bottomline on ESPN is slightly cut off, I think I"ll go into the menu and see what I can do.

seanv927

03-10-07, 03:11 PM

Are you serious? Well, I just got my 3082 so I have 90 days until that warranty goes out. I'm having a little bit of geometry issues with the 3082, the bottomline on ESPN is slightly cut off, I think I"ll go into the menu and see what I can do.

Most 3082 have "ticker" problems like that; mine did too. you can adjust it with the tilt option. if you really wanted an upgrade, I suggest telling a manager that your new tv has issues like i did. I was truthfull about the issues, but the point is i showed them i was so angry that they had to just send me a new model or let me upgrade. i was furious when they said that a tech had to come out again. I told them that many people have the high pitch issue and no tech can fix it. so if you have issues on this set, just really let them know what it is costing you.

shaftr

03-10-07, 03:26 PM

Most 3082 have "ticker" problems like that; mine did too. you can adjust it with the tilt option. if you really wanted an upgrade, I suggest telling a manager that your new tv has issues like i did. I was truthfull about the issues, but the point is i showed them i was so angry that they had to just send me a new model or let me upgrade. i was furious when they said that a tech had to come out again. I told them that many people have the high pitch issue and no tech can fix it. so if you have issues on this set, just really let them know what it is costing you.

I fixed the problems with the screen cut off, now I have 3 months to see if anything else goes wrong with it.

maxy2889

03-12-07, 11:15 PM

Hey everyone! I currently own a Samsung TX-S3082WH Slim Fit HDTV 30" and besides the "bow-like" vertical and horizontal lines on the edges that everyone complains about (this is the least of my problems), I have terrible magnetization issues with this television set unfortunately. When I first got the set, I had not removed my speaker system and two of the speakers which were close to the set magnetized the corners of the television and ever since then the upper left corner has a red tint and the upper right corner a yellow-green tint. I have tried using kitchen magnets, EVEN A DEGAUSSING COIL WHICH I BOUGHT FROM A RELIABLE TV REPAIR SHOP, but nothing seems to work, even the degauss coil, which is almost guaranteed to repair any magnetization. Any suggestions on how I could possibly get rid of this discolorization and magnetization of my television set ONCE AND FOR ALL without returning the television????? Thanks!

andydumi

03-13-07, 10:43 AM

Colin_A

03-14-07, 01:51 PM

andydumi

03-14-07, 03:09 PM

Well, I just got my 3082W replacement (number 3) and so far it looks OK, but I've got about 99 hours of break in left, lol.

One thing I can say, of the 3 I had, all of them had completely different geometry and color characteristics when compared to either of the other 2.

Ive been leaving ours on when I leave in the morning and it just runs on an HD channel for 8-12 hours a day. Its looking good so far and I think the 100 hour mark has passed.

Colin_A

03-14-07, 03:11 PM

Heh, I'm in hour 3 and I see a purple upper right corner emerging pretty clearly.

If it doesn't somehow go away, I'm done with these stupid sets. I'll just find something else.

seanv927

03-15-07, 10:01 AM

Heh, I'm in hour 3 and I see a purple upper right corner emerging pretty clearly.

If it doesn't somehow go away, I'm done with these stupid sets. I'll just find something else.

Get rid of the set now!! man, if you don't, in a year or more you will find yourself with more problems. Then you will be stuck

lotusson

03-15-07, 06:24 PM

Our slimfit had a green corner that kept growing, they said it was unfixable (power supply and board issues) and they gave us a replacement. I would wait til about April/May if you can bear it and get it replaced with the 3093 thats coming out. Its rumored to carry a new chip that should fix many of the bowing issues we are having.

Is there any additional information about the 3093?

andydumi

03-15-07, 07:00 PM

Is there any additional information about the 3093?

Only what available here.

http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/SlimFitHDTV/TXT3093WHXXAA.asp

It seems to only add USB 1.1 to the current 82, but there were some announcements at CES as to a new, better chip for Slimfit TVs that would appear in this year's 2 models (the 30 inch and 27 inch are the 2 new models).
Officially we dont know if its in there, but we will see in April when these show up how the image and quality is.

lotusson

03-15-07, 07:52 PM

Looks like it could be an amazing TV. I hope it's not plagued with problems like the other Slimfits.

maxy2889

03-15-07, 07:59 PM

So there is no way to fix my problem guys??

Vegeta

03-16-07, 09:41 PM

Is there any additional information about the 3093?

The current known info about the new model Slimfits with the new co-processor is as follows.

Pixelworks Announces Design Win with Samsung for New 'Bluejay' Co-Processor IC for Slim CRT Televisions
Tuesday February 20, 4:05 pm ET

TUALATIN, Ore.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Pixelworks, Inc. (NASDAQ:PXLW - News), an innovative provider of powerful video and pixel processing technology for advanced televisions and digital projectors, announced today that Samsung has chosen its new co-processor IC for two slim CRT television models. The PW9050L chip, codenamed 'Bluejay,' complements Pixelworks ImageProcessor ICs for advanced CRTs by introducing its proprietary Digital Horizontal Correction, or DHC(TM), technology for digitally pre-processing video signals to eliminate distortion in slim CRTs.

Samsung Electronics recently introduced two new SlimFit(TM) CRT televisions featuring the PW9050L co-processor chip that use Samsung's innovative cathode-ray tube which reduces tube depth by more than 30 percent. The first two SlimFit widescreen models, measuring 29-inches and 32-inches diagonally, feature vibrant colors and crisp video images even in the corners where the scanning beam is at maximum deflection. Samsung selected the PW9050L because it overcomes a significant technical hurdle of picture uniformity through its unique DHC technology.

Samsung was able to accurately customize the deflection requirements using Pixelworks' DHC technology and integrated test patterns to perfect the image on any slim cathode ray tube. In addition, DHC technology uses unique algorithms to enhance brightness in the corners to enable even picture levels. The PW9050L chip is capable of operating at up to 120 Hz and handling 30-bit RGB input in advanced CRT systems for full high-definition support.

"At Samsung we are continuing to drive innovations for CRTs which will continue to keep the technology competitive. Pixelworks' expertise in image shaping is what made the Bluejay chip possible and we believe these SlimFit CRT models offer the industry's best performance," said S.S. Lee, Vice President of Samsung's Projection and CRT Division.

"We are excited about introducing the PW9050L chip because it represents a completely new approach to processing images in CRTs that can make slim CRTs perform at much higher level. A tier-one design win with a company of Samsung's stature provides further evidence of the value of our co-processor capability and strategy," said Hans Olsen, President and CEO of Pixelworks, Inc. "The market for slim CRTs is projected to grow from less than 8 million units in 2006 to more than 35 million units in 2010 for a compounded annual growth rate exceeding 45 percent. With Bluejay and its unique DHC technology we see a new market potential for our products that can add incremental revenue in 2007 and beyond."

The PW9050L Co-Processor IC for slim CRT television applications is now in production. To learn more about these products, contact the Pixelworks sales office in your region. A list of contacts is available at www.pixelworks.com.

Source: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070220/20070220006305.html?.v=1

Lets just hope the new Slimfits live up to the expectations of this article!

lotusson

03-16-07, 11:31 PM

I hope so. The technology sounds amazing. Only one more month left to wait! I wonder how much it's going to cost.

MCalvert1

03-19-07, 02:35 PM

Does anyone know if the ATSC tuner built into the new Slimfit models will be the same as the one in the H260F STB? Perfect or not, it's the only thing that's allowed me to watch OTA HDTV without constant flubs and hiccups in the picture and audio where I live. Do any of the existing Slimfits or Samsung LCDs use this same "5th Gen" tuner? Thanks.

MjC

rubenmorenojr1

03-20-07, 09:38 AM

Good question. Anybody know the answer?

MCalvert1

03-20-07, 05:03 PM

Amazon sent me an email saying the 3093 is due to ship between April 2 and 6. Subject to change of course, but that's not too far off.

MjC

Unfettered

03-20-07, 05:56 PM

Okay So Finally I took my 3082 to BB this Presidents Day (Monday). The manager did my exchange paperwork. I told him I wanted to buy a beter one and just pay the difference in price. He said yea, no problem. So I was like Heck yea! I looked thru the rows of Tv's. Ther was a Sony Wega,HD widescreen Tube TV 32" for like 999. I seriously considered it. But it looked really heavy, and it didn't have as many featues as the Samsung 3082 Slimfit such as two HDMI inputs. So I looked at the LCD TV's and found a Samsung. 32" HD Widewcreen. I went thru the features it had and looked at the back to see whatk ind of inputs/outputs it had. I really was starting to like this one. It had great picture I didn't notice any issues with it. Okay, to make a long story short. I got it. I bought a Samsung LCD HDTV 32" Model #LNS3251DX/X for $1299 Considering I paid $700 for the SLimfit, I thought this was a good upgrade. And they just let me pay the difference. I got this TV home, set it up and and WoW. I have Dishnetwork but I dont subscribe for HD channels. I bought an indoor amplified antenna. I live in the LA/Orange County area. and there are 60 HD/Digital TV channels being broadcast for free over the air. Its like better than basic cable! So Whenever I want to watch Prison Break or 24 or Heroes. I just switch it to the antenna and I have HD. There's even a music video channel and a cartoon network type channel called FUNimation. But this TV is great, U know when your watching a widescreen program then a commercial comes on that isn't widescreen so it puts black bars on the side on My old slimfit the picture was all wavy on the sides. But this LCD is PERFECTLY Straight. No problems at all.
it only has a 4000:1 contrast Ratio. I wish it 10,000:1 but its still a damn good picture. I'm very happy with this Tv. MY old Slimfit wouldn't keep the time, this new does, my Slimfit didn't have a headphone out jack. this one does. I need that because when my roomate goes to sleep early I can still watch great TV or play PS2 with my headphones on. I'm going to wait until the end of the year or beginning of next year to get a PS3 and can't wait to see that on HD. I need to get an HD Dvd Player First.

I did exactly the same thing and got exactly the same set...Night and day difference. I know the technology is different, but the PQ (especially in a basement room) is excellent. The slim-fit was the worst set I've ever had.....

But my experience with Samsung's Customer Service was excellent, no problems and they were very prompt in working to get my set replaced. They were even the ones to suggest that BB could exchange it quicker.

Unfettered

03-20-07, 05:58 PM

pepperpot

03-20-07, 10:50 PM

I have had the 3082 tv for under two months now. I have the loud, awfull pitch sound coming from it for weeks. The noise is so bad that I swear it MUST be the cause of my "ringing inthe ears." Everywhere I go now, I can hear a ringing sound that isn't coming from anywhere other than my own ears. It may be caused by anything, but I need to know something: anyone out there have this problem and think it is from the 3082 tv set? It is loud ebough to cause problems, but I don't want to worry about it coming from this TV until I get clues that others have this ringing in the ears and a bad Tv too!
Strange you ask this. We've had our 3082 since 8/05 without a problem. Last night and again tonight I started hearing a high=pitched low tone about every two seconds and most notable on mute. Thought the sound was coming from somewhere in our kitchen. On mute it's coming right from the screen and not the back. Out of warranty, but yours is not. This is weird. Yours so new and ours just beyond 1 1/2 years. Tomorrow plan to unplug the set for about 15 mins to see if it goes away and pray that it doesn't get worse. Not bad now since it's so soft and my wife is hard of hearing. Keep me posted and I will too.

guybo

03-21-07, 06:20 AM

Yeah, I could contact the BBB but it won't do any good. The best way in my experience anyway, to deal with a company with tech and customer support as bad as Samsung's is to post it online and help other people not make the same mistake I made.

I say don't buy Samsung because the support is just THAT BAD. Remember- you buy the product and the support behind it.

pepperpot

03-21-07, 11:20 PM

Unplugged set for a couple of hours, vacuumed vents, etc. Plugged in and it's been on for seven hours and soft beebing sound is not there. Knocking on wood here.

radiohokie

03-23-07, 10:41 AM

Hi all - just wanted to give my two cents. I purchased a TX-R3079WH in August 2005. I was very happy with the tv until 03-16-07 when it would not turn on at all. I had not had any major problems in the previous year and a half or so (unlike many others in this thread). I did have some minor color discoloration at the corners (only visible on grey screen) and wavy edges on 4:3 content. Neither problem was a big deal for me. However, the not powering on is, of course.

I went to turn it on in the morning (was working perfectly the night before), and I heard the sound like the tube was coming on - but then nothing. No electronic chime, no LED, no picture. Since, it has given no response. I kept it unplugged for a day without any change. Of course, the warranty period is up (only the tube is still under warranty).

I called a local repair shop and was told it is almost definitely the power supply and deflection board which needs to be replaced ($250 for parts). I originally thought the tv would be worth repairing as it was a CRT, and it should have quite a long lifespan. Then I came across this forum and had major doubts.

I have written a letter to the higher ups at Samsung, hoping they extend warrant protection on the SlimFit models as there are obviously major design defects in the sets. Also, the introduction of the new 'Bluejay' chip models is an admission that the old slim CRT technology is seriously flawed! The number of issues people have had is actually amazing to me. I didn't realize I had one of the "better" sets. I'll update with any new info I receive.

Also, I was wondering if any experts could tell me the likelihood that the problem is actually a bad fuse. I read another post (#1798) where this was the case. I am not an electronics expert at all unfortunately, so I am wondering if this would be somewhat easy for me to examine on my own? It would be a shame to trash the tv over a blown fuse.

Further, I did not realize this until reading the manual a couple of days ago - but there was a sign that my tv had a problem all along. The standby LED would illuminate when the tv was ON and turn off when the set went OFF (opposite of normal). I can't believe I didn't notice this sooner. Has anyone experienced this problem - or have an idea what that could mean? Thanks in advance for any help. Good luck to all.

shaftr

03-23-07, 02:15 PM

l3ftonm3

03-25-07, 04:56 PM

I'm noticing a redish/purple tint on the top corner of my new 3082 (which replaced my broken 3079). It only shows up on white/light grey, but my "new" warranty has about 2.5 months left. I'm going to wait until after the release of the bluejay chip ones and call and ask for a replacement.

Im starting to notice this also on my 3082 which I picked up last summer. I picked it up from PC Richard so im hoping they can help me out.

jeremy566

03-26-07, 09:34 PM

I Just got this tv for my parents for there bedroom samsung TXS3079WHX/XAA i want to now if anyone recommends any good settings for this tv

Thank you

tboygm97

03-29-07, 12:14 PM

hello 2all.i'm thinking of buying the 27 inch non hd model txs-2783 which now has the built in atsc tuner.i like the pq, not really big on the bowing defect.its on sale this week at ccity for 360 plus tax.any inputs if greatly appreciated.tnx

zrdb

03-29-07, 01:05 PM

All I can tell you that if the model has "slimfit" in it you're more than likely going to have distortion problems.

jeremy566

03-29-07, 08:15 PM

does anyone have settings for it

tborton

03-30-07, 09:34 AM

Has anyone had any luck getting the TXR3079WH to display a VGA signal from a laptop? I have a Gateway with and ATI Xpress 200M graphics card and a vga-to-component cable, but I can't get the TV to display anything. I have worked for several hours. Has anyone gotten this to work for this TV?

rubenmorenojr1

03-30-07, 03:11 PM

I love my TXS-2782. I ran a RG6 cable up to the attic and attached a HDTVa antenna and it worked wonders.

lotusson

03-30-07, 10:03 PM

Any new info on the TX-T3093WH, like a release date (since it is supposed to be released next month) or impressions?

http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/SlimFitHDTV/TXT3093WHXXAA.asp

Also, considering the history of the Slimfits, do you think it would be wise to purchase a three year warranty?

joegaff76

04-01-07, 06:53 PM

OK, first time poster. I just purchased my 3rd Slimfit TXS3082WHX and I LOVE THESE TVS!!! OK, the Black Bars on 4:3 are a bit wavy (hardly at all). Luckily all three do not have rainbows, blotchy colors, geometry probs (with the exception of a SLIGHT bow in the black bars).

Also, my Father is an Electrical Engineer and used to own his very own Television Repair Shop (for over 50 years, family owned in Pomona, NJ) and these TVs DO DISPLAY 720P!!! Do not be fooled, CRT Monitors (such as Computer Monitors) can change resolution at the drop of a hat - PROGRESSIVE RESOLUTION. This TV is No Different. Check for yourselves - do the test. Not only did my father call Samsung (and yes, Samsung told him that these Televisions display the True 720P picture Without Scaling to 1080i), he also can tell just by LOOKING at the picture. The test:

I have a self built computer using the EVGA Nvidia 7950 GT VideoCard. It is capable of outputting High Definition signals and I hooked up the DVI out to the Slimfit Television. On the 1080i output mode, the flickering is EXTREMELY OBVIOUS (due to the interlaced scanning method). You can tell by looking at the Windows XP Desktop (especially in the "Display Settings Properties" section and it is obvious that the picture is interlaced. Now, switch the resolution to 720P (the Nvidia software makes this a breeze) and look at the screen: Wow, NO FLICKERING AT ALL!!! No Jittering AT ALL!! By golly, this picture was Progressive!!!!

Now, I know it has been said on these forums that when you press the "info" button on the remote the resolution statistics displayed on the screen is just what the incoming signal represents, but that is also not true. The resolution statistics displayed on the screen after pressing "Info" is truly what your television is displaying!!!!

As my father showed me through different Calibration DVDs (and using not only my computer, but also my Denon DVD-1930CI Upconverting DVD Player) the 1080i setting shows extreme flickering on many stationary images on the screen and the 720P (as well as the 480P) setting has NO FLICKERING AT ALL. Yes, these TVs can and do display 1080i, 480P AND 720P!!!! That is what makes these TVs absolutely brilliant.

I love how on my Scientific Atlanta 4250HD Box, you can set up the output to display 480i, 480P, 720P, and 1080i in a set up menu (with the box off, press and hold down both "Guide" and "Info" on the front of the box simultaneously). Then, while watching you can set up the box to "Pass Through" those resolutions directly to the television without the cable box altering them!! I can watch ESPN in TRUE 720P, and then switch to Discovery Theater and the 1080i picture (when you switch from one resolution to the other by changing channels, you will see the TV switch its resolution, much like when a computer screen switches its resolution).

Again, rejoice!!! These Televisions (at least the TXS3082WHX) are some of the only TVs IN THE WORLD that can truly display TRUE 1080i (no LCD, Plasma, LCOS and DLP is capable) as well as TRUE 720P - I repeat, these TVs CAN DISPLAY THE TRUE 720P Picture without upconverting it to 1080i!!! Please, anybody with a computer that has a DVI output and the ability to transmit both 1080i and 720P resolutions try the test. Hook it up to your Slimfit and judge for yourself. And if you do not believe your own eyes, then trust my Pops. If anybody would truly be able to judge, he would (the man is really an electrical and Television genius).

radiohokie

04-01-07, 07:20 PM

Wanted to update my situation that I had previously posted on...Sasmung online support has responded and basically said there is nothing that they will do for me as the warranty period has expired (even with the numerous SlimFit problems).

I have sent a letter to the President of Samsung Electronics USA to see if that gets me anywhere. No word so far after a week (tv still dead of course). If anyone has any fuse replacement tips please let me know.

Thanks

Hi all - just wanted to give my two cents. I purchased a TX-R3079WH in August 2005. I was very happy with the tv until 03-16-07 when it would not turn on at all. I had not had any major problems in the previous year and a half or so (unlike many others in this thread). I did have some minor color discoloration at the corners (only visible on grey screen) and wavy edges on 4:3 content. Neither problem was a big deal for me. However, the not powering on is, of course.

I went to turn it on in the morning (was working perfectly the night before), and I heard the sound like the tube was coming on - but then nothing. No electronic chime, no LED, no picture. Since, it has given no response. I kept it unplugged for a day without any change. Of course, the warranty period is up (only the tube is still under warranty).

I called a local repair shop and was told it is almost definitely the power supply and deflection board which needs to be replaced ($250 for parts). I originally thought the tv would be worth repairing as it was a CRT, and it should have quite a long lifespan. Then I came across this forum and had major doubts.

I have written a letter to the higher ups at Samsung, hoping they extend warrant protection on the SlimFit models as there are obviously major design defects in the sets. Also, the introduction of the new 'Bluejay' chip models is an admission that the old slim CRT technology is seriously flawed! The number of issues people have had is actually amazing to me. I didn't realize I had one of the "better" sets. I'll update with any new info I receive.

Also, I was wondering if any experts could tell me the likelihood that the problem is actually a bad fuse. I read another post (#1798) where this was the case. I am not an electronics expert at all unfortunately, so I am wondering if this would be somewhat easy for me to examine on my own? It would be a shame to trash the tv over a blown fuse.

Further, I did not realize this until reading the manual a couple of days ago - but there was a sign that my tv had a problem all along. The standby LED would illuminate when the tv was ON and turn off when the set went OFF (opposite of normal). I can't believe I didn't notice this sooner. Has anyone experienced this problem - or have an idea what that could mean? Thanks in advance for any help. Good luck to all.

Faeker

04-01-07, 07:23 PM

I am putting up this post about my Samsung Slimfit TXS2782H. I have had it for five months now and I have had a service man out to my house three times. I've pretty much had it with this television set. I felt that I should share this problem with everyone here and the complaint that I have sent to Samsung today. I hope that this in some way could be beneficial to anyone here. So, here is the complaint:

I'm sending this complaint about my tv. I have had multiple problems with this particular tv set and I'm just fed up with it. I have had a service man out here three times. Each time the problem was fixed, but it was only a matter of days until either the same problem arose, or a new one showed up along with the old one. The first time he arrived was for black lines and waves that would appear periodically. It did this across all forms of connection..ie component, HDMI, and VGA. He and your service dept. determined that the motherboard was defective. He arrived about 10 days later to install the new motherboard. it fixed the problem, but only for about a few days. Now, with this new motherboard, another problem had shown up. Now, along with the wavy lines, if text showed up on the tv that was small(such as subtitles), some of the letters would not fully appear. This may not be an issue for some people, but I watch foreign films quite often and I found this to be very irritating. It also did it with my Xbox 360, and my Nintendo Wii. He once again was told to replace the motherboard and once again it fixed the problems. This time however, the next problem showed up 3 days later. The screen had begun to fragment and every time it had done that, the speakers emitted a screeching static sound. I was watching a movie when that happened, so I immediately switched to my xbox to see if it would continue to do it there as well. It did. Not only did it continue, it got worse and did it for a longer duration. Suddenly, there was a loud screech and a faint pop. I walked up to the set and there was an acrid smell. Obviously, something had burned up inside the set. The television is still working, but something has definitely gone wrong and I do not want this set in my house anymore. This was on Saturday. The service company that you had sent to me is closed until Monday, so I was not able to get a hold of them yet. At this time, I am very upset with my purchase. It bothers me that I have had to have someone come to my house three times already, and now he will have to come here for a fourth. This television set is only five months old, and yet it's acting like it's much older. I've been doing some research on various forums and consumer based magazines and e-zines about my model. I have read numerous complaints about it. I truly regret not doing just the smallest amount of research before making this purchase. It more than likely would have saved me the problems I've been having, and also the time of the service man that has made multiple visits. I have no confidence in this particular product anymore. I can't see getting the television fixed yet again without believing that something else will break on it. I would greatly appreciate it if this television was replaced with a newer, equivalent model, or if I could receive a refund.

Now, I'm really not expecting Samsung to immediately give me a whole new television set or my money back, but I am hoping that they do something other than say that it must continue to be fixed. I will stay up to date with their replies and mine as well as the time passes. Here's hoping that it get's resolved in a happy manner! :p

zrdb

04-01-07, 08:35 PM

Faeker

04-01-07, 08:42 PM

All I can tell you is what you've probally read already-stay as far away from this tv as possible. I got one a year ago and had it for 2 days-it had the famous distortion problems-I adjusted the deflection setting in the service menu for 2 hour and got about a 5% improvment-took the set back and got a different one. Case closed.

I've had minimal problems with the distortion once I figured how to use the deflection setting in the service menu. I wish that was my only problem. I'm hoping to have this resolved in a timely manner. I'm going away in two weeks and I'd like to have a television set that works for my wife to watch while I'm gone.

zrdb

04-01-07, 08:48 PM

Belive this or not-the replacement I got was a Best Buy Insignia 27" crt hdtv-cause I was working for BB at that time I got it for 1/2 the price I paid for the Samjunk-I love it-no distortion-probally because it has a standard picture tube.

Shadowknight

04-01-07, 09:23 PM

zrdb, I have the same set and I love it; I got it for $270 after rabate on Black Friday. I had it professionally calibrated last week, which I recommend, because the factory service menu settings were awful; it was hitting around 15,000K in some parts (red push was so extreme that the Fox channel looked red, fires looked all red instead of yellow and orange, the creature in The Thing looked all red, etc., and it actually made it difficult to see gray scale as well, because the color settings were so messed up) and Randy Tomilson (the calibrator guy) told me it was one of the worst he'd ever seen. After calibration, he said it actually looked better than a Sony CRT. He was surpised that the geometry was literally perfect out of the box. I think he made one minor minor tweak, but he saved an hour (or however long it would have taken to fix geometry, I dunno) since there was really nothing to be done there. I had checked it myself, but there wasn't any overscan problems at all.

So it's a great little set. The only issues with it are:
1. Slow boot up time
2. Not so good tuner; a bit slow to change channels, and it could "lock on" to digital signals better
3. It won't work with a universal remote.

But for the price and quakity for a HDTV CRT, you can't beat it, after the colors are adjusted properly.