Hello everyone,

Forgive me if this was posted somewhere else, but I haven't found what I've needed yet and I figured posting wouldn't be such a bad idea. I bought my TX-S3082WH about six months ago - worked great right out of the box. So now 6 months later and perhaps anywhere from 500-750 viewing hours later, I noticed that the left and right sides of the screen were fairly fuzzy, mainly noticeable with small text. Overall picture quality has gone down too - the middle isn't as sharp as it once was either.

I noticed that there were horizontal lines in the shape of an hour glass (stretching from left to right side on the top and bottom while the middle lines would stop short of the edges by a good 3 inches on each side.

This problem occurs across all input modes (hdtv antenna, xbox 360 component, hdmi dvd player, etc).

Okay so heres what I need help with... first of all, is this a fixable problem?

If it is, then I need some help from someone about which settings in service mode need to be changed to fix the hourglassing. My tv is under warranty but if its possible for me to just fix it with a few menu options in a day or two then I'd rather do that than go through the hassle of sending it somewhere to be repaired.

Oh, on a side note - what should I be using to clean the screen?

Thanks a bunch guys.

Okay so heres what I need help with... first of all, is this a fixable problem?

If it is, then I need some help from someone about which settings in service mode need to be changed to fix the hourglassing. My tv is under warranty but if its possible for me to just fix it with a few menu options in a day or two then I'd rather do that than go through the hassle of sending it somewhere to be repaired.

Oh, on a side note - what should I be using to clean the screen?

Thanks a bunch guys.

Try the H-Parabola setting in the Defelection Menu, Hope that helps u!
Gud luck

The problem you're describing seems somewhat similar to mine. I have sort of C-shaped curves on the left and right (both sides curving inwards, so on the right side it's a backwards 'C'). I too am still under warranty but this was an issue I've had right out of the box, I just haven't had time to call Samsung about it yet. It's like there are these faint horizontal 'ribbings' on each side, it's a bit hard to describe. For me, I got them when I had an Xbox and Xbox 360 playing DVD MOVIES via component but NOT when I was playing games or downloaded media from Xbox Live Marketplace. I have yet to try HD Cable yet as that isn't coming for another few weeks.

I'm in Canada and I bought mine from Best Buy and the model number is a TX-S3064WR if anybody is curious. I haven't really read too many posts about this specific model thru the 67 pages of this thread. Bleh, this TV is starting to frustrate me. There is bowing both at the bottom and at the top right of the TV as well as shadowing in the 4 corners.... But I find that those don't really stick out that badly unless you look for it. The WORST thing are these ribbings along the side... now THOSE are easily noticeable.

The problem you have sounds like the same one I have. It first started only when the set was warming up, but got worse over time to the point that it was unwatchable. Sent it off to the shop to get fixed, turns out its the deflection board that went on it. The TV was only 13 months old (its a 3078), luckily I got the service plan on it so I am not paying the $400 or so it would have cost to have it repaired. I should be getting it back on Monday so I hope they got everything fixed on it. The last thing I want to see is messed up geometry on the set because of the new deflection board.

Spork

I've had minimal problems with the distortion once I figured how to use the deflection setting in the service menu. I wish that was my only problem. I'm hoping to have this resolved in a timely manner. I'm going away in two weeks and I'd like to have a television set that works for my wife to watch while I'm gone.


well, Samsung is replacing it. Hopefully I can get the newer set, I just have no trust for this one anymore.

We also bought the Slimfit 30" TXS3082X/XAA last summer and the tv started to display fuzzy pictures, out of focus and a black dot in the center. We tried different inputs: antenna, analog cable, dvd player with the same problem. We also tried different settings without success. We bought the tv at best buy with cash and we lost the receipt :-( Yikes!!. Browsed bestbuy web site and found out if you bought something with credit card, you can retrieve your receipt at the site. We have no luck.

Anyway, tried to call Samsung, given them the serial number and turned out the tv is still under warranty, cool! They opened a trouble ticket and faxed to a local tv repair shop that came and picked up the tv. The repair shop concluded that tv has a bad tube and they will order a replacement tube.

We thought we don't want anymore of these Samsung slimfit TVs and called Samsung to ask to pay extra and get an upgrade. They said they don't do that. I thought someone in this threats had their tv upgraded. Now, we are stuck with the tv. We will look into extended warranty. With so many people having prolems with these tvs, their slimfit technology doesn't seem to mature yet. :-(

Just to give you all a heads up the new 27" TX-T2793H can be bought on CC's website.

I plan on buying this model even though I got hosed on the last 27" model. I have read every post in this thread and searched plenty online but I haven't found any definite answer on whether this new model has the bluejay chip in it. Does anyone have new news or info on this?

I've been debating whether or not to buy that specific model-- I've seen it at two different Circuit City stores on display, and neither seemed to exhibit the defocus and geometry issues that were really apparent on the 30" models that were displayed at both Best Buy stores near my house.

Again, rejoice!!! These Televisions (at least the TXS3082WHX) are some of the only TVs IN THE WORLD that can truly display TRUE 1080i (no LCD, Plasma, LCOS and DLP is capable) as well as TRUE 720P - I repeat, these TVs CAN DISPLAY THE TRUE 720P Picture without upconverting it to 1080i!!! Please, anybody with a computer that has a DVI output and the ability to transmit both 1080i and 720P resolutions try the test. Hook it up to your Slimfit and judge for yourself. And if you do not believe your own eyes, then trust my Pops. If anybody would truly be able to judge, he would (the man is really an electrical and Television genius).

err... well sure it degrades both types to its low actual resolvable resolution. its nothing to brag about really. its true crts can change their beam scanning to do either 720p or 1080i, but it doesn't get around the fact that it doesn't have dot pitch worth squat. with true 1080p displays now on the market theres no point defending this tv anymore. maybe in the past when many "hd" type flat panels were pretty much"edtv's" you could make an arguement. now theres no point. only reason for this unit is cost, if you can get it below 300 dollars it will become a decent deal. but thats not happening fast enough as flat panel prices keep getting better these flat line crts just can't compete.

I've been debating whether or not to buy that specific model-- I've seen it at two different Circuit City stores on display, and neither seemed to exhibit the defocus and geometry issues that were really apparent on the 30" models that were displayed at both Best Buy stores near my house.

I decided to go balls to the wall and order it. It's being delivered Saturday (4/14/07). I will keep you posted on my initial findings.

I can tell you this though. If this unit shows any sign of color problems due to the natural magnetic fields from our planet earth like I experienced on my last unit it's going to be returned before my 30 days is up. That also goes for any geometry issues.

OK, this is the ULTIMATE frustration!!!!
I'm a seasoned Electronics TV repairman with 20+ years of repair experience.
I just HAPPEN to ALSO OWN a Samsung TX-R3079 Slimfit, and KNOW the issues (thanks in part to this message board).
Recently, I noticed that the "spot-killer" circuitry is not working, causing a horizontal line across the screen at turn-on for a few seconds, and at turn-off, a bright dot in the center of the tube for a few seconds.
I paid Circuit City close to $1000 for this set in Oct 2005, and it's the second set in my home (the first one died after 6 days) It's now out of warranty, convieniently for Samsung, yet I'm willing to spend a few bucks on repairs to these Mass-Produced shoddy products we pay good money for. A year-and-a-half of use and I feel like the public deserves better longevity of things than this.
I contacted Samsung on the phone, and was transferred multiple times to knuckleheads that didn't know snot about customer service OR repairs to this model. (they should read this Web Site and learn something) Level One and Level Two phone technicians don't mean a damn thing to me if they can't give me the Service Info I need to repair this expensive set.
I explained that I'm not just anyone, and that this "spot-killer" problem is eventually going to cost me a new picture tube after it burns the phosphers on the screen. As well, I also want to address the purity problems and geometry issues that I KNOW need correcting....I want to repair it, PRONTO, before it pisses me off.
They suggest I e-mail them details of the problem(s) and they will advice accordingly.... and I get this reply from them the next day......

"As per SAMSUNG policy Tech Support Dept can not provide to the customer (end user) technical assistance. Please contact our Call Center to setup service with a SAMSUNG authorized service center."

Call Center
1- 800- SAMSUNG
SAMSUNG
UGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did they NOT hear me when I spoke with them?... I may be an "end user", but I'm ALSO a respected technician as well.
I'm NOT done with this yet... and I WILL get what I want in the end!
Being nice on the phone with Samsung is over... By the way, I have a TX-S3082 in MY SHOP "dead" right now from an irate customer.... god KNOWS what's wrong with THAT set!.....Time to get out the BIG GUNS, and SHAME the DEVIL!... MattTech

Well, I have warned people on this board about how awful Samsdung support is and it rears it's ugly head once again. Finally after 4 months of struggling with the issues that POS TV had, I finally got rid of it and my refund is [hopefully?] in the mail. I don't trust them so I am not positive they will send the check without a fight to the death, but they said they would. Either way, they got that thing aout of my house.

I replaced the Samsdung with a Sony. The Sony is 34" and it is damn huge, but hopefully the worksmanship is better and certainly the customer support cannot possibly be any worse.

I know ill sound like a complete idiot here. But I have the Samsung TX-R2779H tv. And would like to know how to Watch hd channels. I cant seem to figure out for the life of me how to put the -1 at the end. So for me channel 13 is cbs on air broadcast. I can type in 13. but no -1. Btw I have comcast regular cable. And i know it can be done because my friend has the same service and is able to do it with his hd tv.

Ok.. I got my tv back in September, and it had some geometry issues. It was within 30 days so I got a new one.. with the same problems. The guy said it was common on all TVs, and rather than force this guy to return the tv and get me a new one (it was delivered, not in store) I thought ok, maybe I can work with this and get it to how I want, or after the 100 hours it'll be better. Unfortunately that has not happened, and after going through the Test screen for another marathon session, I'm ready to get this replaced. I have the extended service warranty through Circuit City (for $89 more, why not?) but I don't want to keep having them send back defective TVs. I got this originally in September 2006. How should I approach this problem? Obviously there are numerous stories here about people doing similar things. What strategies seem to work best for this?

I am going to post my first review of the new 27" TX-T2793H model which I just got delivered this morning. It 's really a bit early to be making any definetive conclusions on the new set but I thought I would share what I have found so far.

First thing I noticed right out of the box was the large sticker decals they put on it to summarize the TV's features. The one sticker says "Distortion Free" which lead me to believe that the Bluejay chip might just be inside this particular model.

The TV's external design is unchanged from the previous 27" TX-S2782H model. The remote is the same also. Alrighty then... I plugged in a HD Cable Box using an HDMI connection, a DVD player connected with component and the original XBOX connected with component cables. The HD Channels coming from the cable box look beautiful along with all the other non HD channels! Right away I couldn't help but notice the lack of bowing problems most of us experienced on the past SlimFit models. I have flipped through hundreds of channels, watched a DVD and played a few quick games on the XBOX and I haven't seen a single instance of bowing anywhere. It's impressive! I have absolutely no color imperfections that might apear from magnetic fields in the area (which was my problem with the TX-S2782H). There's no bowing or geometry issues to report at all... yet!

Now to the problems I do have.

First is the fact that there is no "Custom Mode" in the "Picture Settings". There are three pre sets "Dynamic, Standard and Movie". When you start manually adjusting color, tint etc it adjusts it in whichever preset your in and it saves your changes in that pre set. The audio settings has a custom mode why not the video? Of course this is not a technical problem just a matter of opinion.

OK finally I will explain a real technical problem I am having. Every single time I change my size settings like to 16:9 or "Wide" (it doesn't matter what size I choose) if I leave the TV\Remote untouched for 30 minutes the size setting automatically changes to whatever the next size setting is on the list of sizes without anyone touching anything. It just magically changes without warning. It happens every 30 minutes! I don't have a stop watch but I have pretty much narrowed it down to exactly 30 minutes as if it's on a timer to change the size settings. When you use the P.Size button on the remote to change the size the screen displays a little graphic to tell you which setting your changing to. When the TV automatically changes without any remotes being touched there is no little graphic... it just changes. This is certainly a problem!

That's my findings so far... but again I have only had the set for 10 hours so don't use this post and my opinions as anything important just yet.

Thanks, TechGuy. I've had the TX-T2793H on my wishlist since it was announced, but I was waiting for some reviews before I took the plunge. Keep us posted, will ya?

A little background:

first time poster
first time SlimFit buyer
first time HDTV buyer
upgrading from an old ~19" CRT that works great
my requirements: SD has to look great, must have QAM for picking up the unencrypted HD from my cable provider


I started researching this tv one week ago for my father. At that time, the TX-T2793H had already been posted on the CC website (delivery only). I visited CC that night just to see if maybe they had it on display, but they didn't. Also went to BB to see their other SlimFit models. I had not yet read all the many posts detailing the geometry and bowing problems. I asked specifically about the 2793H and saw that it was in fact in the BB computer system (not the website) to be available end of April, or thereabouts (according to the associate). Throughout the next week, I made my way through ~30 pages of posts in this forum and decided that I wasn't going to pull the trigger on this until the reviews had come in.

Jump to Saturday 14 Apr, I read some posts about the new BlueJay? chip and how it would solve all the distortion problems. CC now had it in-store so I went to check it out. It wasn't on display so I asked if they would put one out for me, and they did. The one they set up for me did indeed have geometry issues; it was not distortion-free as it said on the sticker. The bottom left was pushed off the screen and the bottom right, from about 2/3 from the left to the right-hand edge was curving upwards very noticeably. It didn't help any that the coax feed was absolutely revolting. I left, disappointed. BB was next door so I stopped in just to look. I went over to the tubes and played with the older SlimFits and other brands' HDTV tubes. BB had a good feed for the tubes, both SD and HD feeds. Seeing that the older slimfits actually display a good feed very well (saying nothing about geometry), I convinced myself to go back to CC and gamble on the only other 2793H they had in stock (the other being the display model having the very noticeable geometry problems). I made the purchase and bought the 3-yr plan.

My TX-T2793H:

Model Code TXT2793HX/XAA
Serial No. B32H3CAP3007xxx
Version ST01


Out of the box, this TV is much better than the one in the store, and much better than my previous one! Auto-program picked up all the unencrypted HD feeds from my cable provider, all the analog cable channels, all the digital channels, and a whole bunch of "on-demand" digital channels that must be what my neighbors are watching. There's no telling what's going to be on these "on-demand" channels; it could be cartoons, popular tv shows, old movies, or new release pay movies. You can even see them rewind and pause.

SD looks great, and I was absolutely stunned by the HD. So, my basic requirements have been met by this tv. I like it. I like the menus. I like the on-screen display when you change channels. A transparent box in the upper left will tell you the channel number, analog/digital, the resolution, the aspect ratio, if the sound is stereo.

BUT, my TV is NOT distortion-free. Most noticeable is a slight bowing on the top and bottom edges of the screen. The bowing is towards the center of the picture. The bowing is slightly off-center to the right. It is most noticeable on the bottom edge, perhaps because that's where a ticker is often found. Another distortion, not as noticeable and even less of a concern to me, is at the left and right edges of the screen; the picture appears to compress slightly at the edges and is noticeable on a news ticker. Letters will be closer together at the edges. I'm actually not sure if it is all the way up the edges or just in the bottom corners, because I can only see it when there's scrolling text on the bottom, and even then, it's still readable and not really a big issue (to me anyway).

I have not yet used the service menu to correct the slight bowing issue I am noticing (I tried, from power off, mute-1-8-2-power but I didn't get the service menu; is this the right combination?). If I cannot fix it, I will consider returning the set. I wouldn't want to get a replacement set that is worse (like the one in the store). I am disappointed that my set is not distortion-free like TheTechGuy's. Also, I wonder if this set actually has the BlueJay? chip...

Hopefully we will get some more reviews soon. The primary reason I am posting today is because I know many of you are waiting to see if this model fixes the geometry issues, and out-of-the-box, it is not distortion-free, neither mine nor the store's.

I'm happy to see we already have another review of the TX-T2793H already. With more hours of use I can also report that I am having very similar distortion as jsmartin00's description. I am only really noticing it while news tickers are on the screen. I think it's best viewed on the weather channel because of all the straight lines they use around many of the graphics. For me it seems the ticker turns up or curls up as it reaches the left bottom corner and on the weather channel it seems like it may actually be going up the whole left side of the screen. I also had to adjust the tilt because all tickers seemed to be going downhill meaning the right side was higher than the left side. I think our wording of the descriptions are different but we are reporting the same thing. Right now the bowing is very minor so I'm not concerned just yet. But two posts describing similar distortion problems brings us right back to wondering about the Bluejay chip!

The code "mute-1-8-2-power" does work to access the service menu for the TX-T2793H. I would just say to try again and just make sure to add a slight pause before pressing each button. Maybe you just pressed the code to quick or to slow. I will be taking a calibration disc to this unit adjusting settings in the service menu later once I can find the damn disc. I will post an update later in the week.

It would be helpfull if you can test your picture size settings to see if your set has the same issue as mine. I'm still having the problem. When you choose a screen size wait 30 minutes without changing your size setting again and watch to see if your size automatically changes to another setting without your input. I accessed the service menu just to see if there is something obviouse there that would cause this but there was nothing that stood out for me to make any changes.

Something new to add that I didn't add to my first review...

The power of the degauss when the TV is turned on from a cold boot (TV powerd off for at least 45 minutes) is seriously powerfull. Compared to the TX-S2872H and any TV\CRT Monitor I've ever been in contact with this thing is powerfull. I noticed it the first time we turned the set on but I was reminded this morning when I turned the set on again. Turning the set on after being off for just a few minutes produces a mild degauss which is to be expected.

I meant to comment on the issue that TheTechGuy described (picture changing or reverting resolutions? after ~30 mins on his TX-T2793H), because I am NOT experiencing this issue, or at least have not noticed it yet. I have had my tube on pretty much all day today, and several times on an HD 16:9 show for more than 30 minutes. Not once did the picture auto-revert to 4:3.

I do notice occasionally that the channel information box will pop up (as if I had just changed the channel even though I didn't) in the top left corner. Perhaps these are similar or related issues.

I was actually pondering about your experience today, wondering why that might be happening to you and not me. Obviously, it could be a defect. But, I wonder if it might be the case, if you are using a cable box or some other intermediate device, that the box is somehow causing the tv to think the mode has changed. I, myself, go straight from the wall into the tv (coax), so I am only speculating. Also, I have only watched TV so far, no DVDs or Xbox.

I still haven't retried the service mode, but I will let you know how that goes when I do. I am curious if there are some test patterns in there. Something I read about the Bluejay made me think there might be. Otherwise I will have to find some test patterns on the net or order a disc. Also, I need to go back in this forum and find the link to the service manual which has great diagrams describing what each of the geometry adjusting settings does. If I recall from what I read, it's not likely I'm going to be able to tell what each does just by looking, at least not the first time.

I just bit the bullet and picked up a TX-T2793H with a coupon code I had that was only good until tomorrow (Took it down to $478 before tax.) Unfortunately, I'm in the middle of moving, so I'm not actually going to get to unpack the silly thing until 4/26 when I get to my new place. I'll let you guys know at that point how it looks for me. I seriously hope that not all sets experience the distortion you're commenting about. The display at CC still looked pretty good without any bowing or anything.. I'm thinking it was a good idea to pick up the 3 year service plan.

I don't know much about TV tech so maybe someone can explain this to me. After reading the above posts I was comparing the spec sheets for Samsung's two new Slimfit models.

T3093WH - http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/SlimFitHDTV/files/tx-t3093wh.pdf
T2793 - http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/SlimFitHDTV/files/tx-t2793.pdf

On the 3093 it has an added feature, the Dynamic Multiple Focus Electron Gun. I was wondering if that has anything to do with whether or not the 3093 will/will not have geometry problems.

My first thought also was that maybe my cable box was some how changing my size settings but it happens no matter what source I have on. I'm thinking that it's changing because of a setting not because of a defect or a device thats connected. That's probably why I'm not overlly concerned about it. Your channel information displaying randomly definetely sounds similar and may be related.

I double checked the service menu and there are 12 test patterns in the "Options" section. I just flipped through all of them and noticed a slight bit of bowing in the top right of the screen and nowhere else. It was so slight it wasn't anything that bothered me. I was suprised to see no distortion at all in the bottom left which I see from the news ticker. If I was a tech calibrating the screen using the service menu test patterns I would have sent this set out with the settings just the same. Looks good.

Speaking of looking good... I am watching "Planet Earth" on Discovery's HD Channel and it's just beautiful. It's like I have been given a new pair of eyes. Everything is so crystal clear and the colors so perfect... it's easy to forget the few problems this set has even if just for a moment.

BTW m0unds I got my set for the same price on CC's Easter Sunday sale. Add on the price of the 3 year warranty and I feel like it's still a steal. I know thats odd to say when I am having problems... but when you put the problems aside the TV is beautiful.

TheTechGuy, does the picture lose definition or get blurrier at the edges or sides of the screen?

This was one of the biggest problems of the Slimfit design and I'm wondering whether the Bluejay chip has eliminated this problem or not.

Also, is the brightness evenly spread out or do the sides appear darker for instance when the whole screen is white? That problem was also supposed to have been eliminated by the Bluejay.

Is this normal:

If the right side is very bright, and the left side is dark, I get light green and less noticable purple vertical bands of haze on the left third of the screen. It has to be black on the left side to see it, and they can go from top to bottom. The right side has to have some very bright areas. I think once I ran into a severe case on a DVD with a white 1" band along the right edge of the set (door opening or something), and the rest of the picture was black.

I have tried degaussing (powering off) many times, and the problem is not influenced by moving speakers away from the set.

My model is TX-S3080WH, which is nearly the same as TX-S3079WH (30" 16:9)

The set also has the slight vertical line waviness noticeable on the edge of the picture in 4:3 mode which seems to be common.

For 99% of all images the set works great.

Interesting - multiple reports that the new model has clear qam!

Is that stated in the spec sheets?

Well after a few more days of use I have more to add to my original problem of the screen size changing after 30 minutes. Apparently I failed to notice all along that any option I change from the "Picture" settings changes back to it's original setting exactly 30 minutes after I change it. But thats not the only new detail to report. If I am on source HDMI #1 and I change my video size then I flip through all the other sources and return back to HDMI #1 the video size doesn't change after 30 minutes... it stays that way for as long as needed.

I figured all of this out while playing the XBOX on the component connections. I was playing for about 2 hours when it suddenly dawned on me that the video size never changed automatically while I was playing. The only difference between then and any other time was when I changed my source to xbox I didn't have to change the video size. Then while playing a game I needed to brighten the screen.... 30 minutes after the change the brightness returned to it's original state. I was then able to reproduced these events while on the HDMI Cable input and DVD connections also.

Just to note... audio settings, setup settings and input settings have kept the changes I have made without reverting back. This problem remains a "Picture" settings problem.

For now I am going to consider this a problem with my own unit until I find other reports of people having the same problem.

Vegeta... as far as inconsistant brightness and blurry edges I have not seen these problems with this new model. I owned the TX-S2782H for less than 30 days (returned it) and have seen those symptoms before.

With a solid white test pattern my screen is consistant throughout the entire screen.

The only distortion on the edge of the screen I have seen for myself and also reported by jsmartin00 is a slight bit of bowing. I would not describe this is as blurry.

I am not satisfied by my units performance and jsmartin's that the "Bluejay" chip is in these models. If it is.... it's not an absolute fix to the original problems. I don't intend on making any more determinations on whether this screen has the chip and what could be wrong with them until more reviews have been posted.

I am not satisfied by my units performance and jsmartin's that the "Bluejay" chip is in these models. If it is.... it's not an absolute fix to the original problems. I don't intend on making any more determinations on whether this screen has the chip and what could be wrong with them until more reviews have been posted.

Would you say that it's improved over the previous 27" model you had?

I'll post a review after 4/28, when I actually get to unpack mine and use it. :D

TheTechGuy, By any chance, is your tv in Shop mode? After reading that yours resets after EXACTLY 30 minutes, if I understand you correctly, it just sounds too exact to be a defect, although unwanted.

As for my set, about a week old now, I am strongly considering returning it. I am bothered by the distortions I mentioned previously and also by another one I've been noticing over the past few days. That is, my HD programs appear to be too stretched vertically, even though I'm am watching them in their 16:9 format (as opposed to Zoom or Wide or whatever they're called). Not only that, I believe my regular SD programs are also appearing stretched. I have been compensating for the SD stretching by switching to 16:9 but now they're a bit stretched horizontally. This weekend, I am planning to spend some serious time to see if I can't compensate for the distortion I am experiencing by adjusting the settings in the service menu. Just today I got into the service menu and started browsing around. I can see it's not going to be straight-forward task.

The other thing I am bothered by is the fact that I just can't seem to get my picture settings right. On my old old 19", I never had to change the settings once I got them how I wanted, but on this set, I am having to adjust depending on the program/channel I'm watching. This annoyance is amplified by the fact that I have to go into the menu to get to the Brightness/Contrast/Color/Sharpness/Tint settings. There ought to be a shortcut for that on the remote. I'd sure use it a lot more than the "Signal Strength" button.

I don't know why I waited until now to change the "SHOP_MODE" option from On to OFF. It was set to "ON" the whole time and when I first noticed it I thought it might be the cause of my problem. I turned it OFF and now I don't have any more problems with my "Picture" options automatically changing on me. I blame this one on myself because it was quite obviouse what SHOP MODE meant yet I never bothered to change it until now. Thanks for reminding me of that option jsmartin!

As for the stretching I think that all has to do with the fact that your cable signal is connected directly to your TV and not from a Digital Cable Box. When I am flipping through the channels on my cable box I have to adjust the cable boxes picture size along with the TV's picture size to make everything look right. The cable box has the same size settings as the TV. Since you don't have anything besides the TV adjusting the size it's always leaving you "streched". When you are watching regular 480i\480p channels and your TV is set to "Normal" does it look streched then?

Make sure you write down all the service menu settings before changing anything. You don't want to make a change that you can't revert back to its original state because you will most definetely be returning the TV then. I haven't come to a conclusion on whether or not I am returning my set yet.

m0unds I would definetely say this set is a drastic improvement over the previouse 27" model but it's still not there. The fact that jsmartin and I even have to put thought into returning the set is not a good thing.

Ok I have been having problems with this TV (Samsung 30' CRT, TXS3082WHX/XAA, SA01) since I first got it. For some reason it only plays from the TV speakers when I have any audio hooked up to the component or HDMI inputs. I have the TV connected to my reciever via optical cable. The funny thing is that it will play audio from my Dreamcast or anything else connected to the side S-video input, but not component or HDMI.

Whenever I turn my upconverting DVD player on (Samsung HD845) I get an "HDMI audio not supported" message. After a little tweaking I finally got the audio to play through my TV speakers (only PCM 2CH), but it still only plays through my TV speakers and not the surround sound.

So does anyone know why it's doing this? Is it just a flaw in the design of the TV? Could it have anything to do with the DVD player or HDMI cable I have?

I've been getting around these problems by using a digital coaxil cable for my DVD player, but when I get a PS3 I don't want to have to hook it up via optical out because both inputs on my reciever are already being used by TV and Xbox 360. I would just hook the TV up via stereo cables, but I'm using that input for a swicth box hooked up 3 other consoles because the audio on the component inputs on my TV only seem to work with the TV and not the surround sound...

SlaughterX this is what the manuals say.

This is for the Digital Audio Out
"When the COMPONENT IN or HDMI IN are connected, the Optical jack on the TV does not output audio. If you want to hear audio, connect the DIGITAL AUDIO OUT (Optical) jack on the DVD player or Set-Top Box directly to an Amplifier or DVD Home Theater, not the TV."

This is for the AV Out
"When the COMPONENT IN or HDMI IN jacks are connected, the AV Out jacks on the TV does not output audio. If you want to hear audio, connect the AUDIO OUT jacks on the DVD player or Set-Top Box directly to an Amplifier or DVD Home Theater, not the TV."

gah. given the fact that you've had a bit more time with the tv, what would you say are the major pros/cons of the new series so far?

I have a TX-R3079WH which I have two questions about:

1) I am having an issue with the auto on/auto off feature of the TV. Every morning, the TV turns on and is on Cable 3. I have to switch either to HDMI or Component 1 in order to get a picture. Is there a way to have it come on to the correct input?

2) Are there any discreet codes for the TX-R3079WH for the MX-850 remote control?

Welp, more bad news for me. My new (3rd) 3082WH ha started the same popping flicker my 1st one did and the corners seem to be very slowly growing purple haze in them. While it only started with the right side, it has not migrated over to the left as well.

Frankly I'm a bit fed up, I haven't even touched the service menu on this set yet so I know its nothing I could have done to it this time.

I'm thinking I should just call them up again and get a refund if I can, this is getting a little crazy.

Anybody have any info on the TX-T3092WH? Its on the sammy website as "new". Is it like the TX-S3080 that never got released?

I have a Sammy plasma and Sammy DLP. I want to get one of these SlimFit 30" to match. I like the speakers on the bottom like the 2 models I listed above. Unfortunately, they I could not find the 3080 anywhere (not convinced it EVER came out) and wondering if the same will be true for the 3092?

Any info would be great. Thanks!

Unfortunately, they I could not find the 3080 anywhere (not convinced it EVER came out)
I have one. It came from Best Buy. TX-S3080WH. Has no speaker grilles in front on the sides, and lots of little dots in the cabinet at the bottom. It is a few inches narrower than most of the cabinets with the same picture size. As I said, earlier it has green and purple hazy stripes that appear only on the left side of the screen, and only when the left is very dark, and the right is very bright.

SlaughterX this is what the manuals say.

This is for the Digital Audio Out
"When the COMPONENT IN or HDMI IN are connected, the Optical jack on the TV does not output audio. If you want to hear audio, connect the DIGITAL AUDIO OUT (Optical) jack on the DVD player or Set-Top Box directly to an Amplifier or DVD Home Theater, not the TV."

This is for the AV Out
"When the COMPONENT IN or HDMI IN jacks are connected, the AV Out jacks on the TV does not output audio. If you want to hear audio, connect the AUDIO OUT jacks on the DVD player or Set-Top Box directly to an Amplifier or DVD Home Theater, not the TV."

Where does it say that in the manual? Anyway I suppose that would explain it, but that sounds like a horrible design flaw, why the hell would they do something like that? Also it doesn't seem to make a difference if it's conencted to the analog or digital audio out, neither work... I was really looking forward to getting another Samsung HDTV, but at this rate I think I'll have to try something else. I've been disconnected 4 times from the call center...

Has anyone seen the 3093 in stores yet? This is the SlimFit I'm waiting for...

Has anyone seen the 3093 in stores yet? This is the SlimFit I'm waiting for...

No, I haven't seen one in stores or online yet. I'm becoming impatient. :p

I bought the 27" SD slimfit yesterday and spent time with both Avia and in the service menu (thanks to all who posted this info!). Although there are alot of mentions in this thread regarding geometry issues, I determined that there were none on my set. What is there and may be useful to some, is a severly under pwered powersupply. The geo issues I noted were along the side of the picture when watching a pillar boxed HD channel. The side would bow in as the picture brightened. This is a power supply issue. When I finally got the contrast down to 15 (yes, that is 15), the bowing went away- that is how far t took using Avia to stop the line bend in the contrast setting screen.

I finally ended with a fantastic picture and I can always go to dynamic mode if I have to during the day. Hope this may help some people.

okay, moved into my new place today and finally got to unbox my TX-T2793H. I calibrated it with Avia and the picture looks really excellent. I watched a couple DVDs and didn't notice any significant bowing or geometry issues. Unfortunately, I won't have any other sources until Sunday, which is when I'm getting my digital cable installed. So far, so good.

It doesn't say it specifically. But most TVs say TV out. Slimfits say AVI out. So for AVI out to work, the sound source in must be AVI In 1 or 2. SO if HDMI or compoent in, AVI out and Optical out won't work. If hooked to a cable box, jost go direcct from box to home theater.

I bought a Samsung TXS2782HX/XAA last March 18 and I really loved it at the first week. The problem started when I was playing my Xbox 360 the next weekend when I left it for 5minutes, when I returned I saw these 2 nasty "Rainbow Marks" on both sides of my TV. So I called Samsung to maybe get it replaced, they told me that they could but I had to call back on a Monday because I called them on a Friday 4:30pm PST, The REP told me their Replacement Representative was closed so I called back on Monday.

The REP that I talked to told me that I got the wrong information that I can't get it replaced yet because it needs to be checked by a TECH, so I agreed and placed a schedule for repair. It took about a week till the TECH came and fixed my TV, I wasn't home when he came in to replace my set but my dad said he replaced the whole tube. When I came home to test it, he forgot to fix the Geometry and I had to call Samsung again to get it serviced. Again I tried to get it replaced and for the 2nd time, the REP told me they will but i have to call back on Monday since the Replacement Representative is closed AGAIN.

Here comes Monday and I did call back, AGAIN they told me I had the wrong information and I actually need to get it checked twice before they can replace it. Since I thought I had no choice I get it scheduled for repair but it took them 2weeks and more than a dozen calls to actually service it. Now I think I need to call Samsung again and get it repaired for the 3rd time or at least try getting it replaced AGAIN. Think 3rd time's the charm?

Anyway sorry for the long rant. I just wanted to know if anyone had the same problem with the Samsung Tech Support/Warranty because I read that someone actually got their Television replaced with Samsung. :D

No, I haven't seen one in stores or online yet. I'm becoming impatient. :p

ABC Warehouse is showing it on their website for $599. I'm going to stop in one of their stores tomorrow to take a look at one.

Hello,
I am planning on purchasing the new 30" slimfit, but it seems like there are conflicting reports on its output resolution. Is the 3093 capable of outputting in 720p, or only in 1080i?
Thanks,
Will

ABC Warehouse is showing it on their website for $599. I'm going to stop in one of their stores tomorrow to take a look at one.

Within the past week a lot of retailers are starting to list the 3093. yay! :p

3093 now listed on bestbuy.com as "In Stock" !

BsetBuy also has it on sale too (along with the 3092), for a lower price than the 3082. Any more feedback from the 2793 owners out there yet?

Thanks,

Red.

I'll have to get ABC to beat Best Buy's price if I decide to pick this up. I want to, but I'm trying not to spend any money before I go to DC this month.

Has anybody had experience with Best Buy's performance service plan for this TV? Is it worth getting, or a waste of money??

I wanted to determine which Samsung Slimfits have the new Bluejay processor; so I wrote a short note to Pixelworks, since they are the company that developed the Bluejay chip.. In the reply that I recieved, Pixelworks stated that these models have the Bluejay chip in them =

"Here are the model numbers from Samsung:
29" : TXT2793HX/XAA (online at http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/SlimFitHDTV/files/tx-t2793.pdf)

32" : TXT3093HX/XAA ."

And that's all that was stated in the E-mail that I recieved from Pixelworks.

Sooooo; apparently, the new TXT3093HX models DO have the Bluejay chip...sounds good so far.. but I also have a question.. do these models also have QAM tuners ?

Thanks !~


"

Looks like I'll be picking up my 3093 on Monday.

I'll hopefully be getting one this Saturday if it is in stock. Otherwise I'm going to have to order it off the web.

I see that it lists that it has an analog NTSC tuner. I didn't know such a thing existed. Does this mean that we cannot get OTA broadcast without a converter box after Feb '09?

I ordered the 3093 from amazon, it will get here may14-17th

Ok, we have been approved for a upgrade/replacement from the 3082. We went with a 40 inch LCD for a slightly higher price.
It was getting absurd, in the past 4 months, since the start of the year, we have had a TV in the living room for a grand total of 3 weeks. Partly Samsung's fault, partly the local shop which is too small for our city (they get easily overwhelmed, and are the only repair center for Samsung). Good luck all in the future with these sets, we just could not take it anymore. i guess now I will watch the Samsung LCD threads...

Okay, I've been using my TX-T2793H all this week. There is barely any bowing at all and it's not noticible during any TV watching I've done thus far. I've had ****ty luck all week with cable boxes (i'm on #4 right now) but discoveryhd, and all the other hd channels on comcast in albuquerque look really amazing with a functioning box and movies look really excellent. So far, so good.

I'm heading to BestBuy tomorrow to pickup a 3093. It'll take the place of my Toshiba 24" tube that's in my office now. The 3093 will allow me to get my Xbox360 out of the living room and into my office/gaming room. :D

I wanted to determine which Samsung Slimfits have the new Bluejay processor; so I wrote a short note to Pixelworks, since they are the company that developed the Bluejay chip.. In the reply that I recieved, Pixelworks stated that these models have the Bluejay chip in them =

"Here are the model numbers from Samsung:
29" : TXT2793HX/XAA (online at http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/SlimFitHDTV/files/tx-t2793.pdf)

32" : TXT3093HX/XAA ."

And that's all that was stated in the E-mail that I recieved from Pixelworks.

Sooooo; apparently, the new TXT3093HX models DO have the Bluejay chip...sounds good so far.. but I also have a question.. do these models also have QAM tuners ?

Thanks !~


"The PDF manual describes searching for both analog and digital cable signals, so yes, it does have a clear QAM tuner.

I bought the TXT2082, which isn't a HDTV even though the Samsung site says it is. (http://samsung.com/Products/TV/SlimFitHDTV/TXT2082XXAA.asp) :confused:

It has beautiful color and a clear QAM tuner. It also has a very slightly bowed picture. I tried putting in all of the service code I could find online, but nothing works. Every time I press a button that's not Power on the remote when the TV is off, the TV will refuse to accept any input from the remote and I have to push the power button on the TV to get it back working. :mad:

Is there a different service code or different way of entering it for the SD SlimFits?

EDIT 5/7 : I think I figured it out. Wait about 10 seconds after it's turned off, then press on the remote Mute-1-8-2-Power.

I have the 3093 sitting behind me right now still in the box. Have a house full of people at the moment so it's going to be a while before I hook it up. Even managed to catch it on sale at Best Buy for 539, and of course I got the 4 year warranty for 80 bucks. Nice deal overall, I hope this TV is awesome. Picture quality wise I've always liked the Slimfits, I just hope the new Bluejay chip is all its cracked up to be.

Unbox that 3093 and let us know what you think!!! ;) I've looked everywhere for photos of the 3093 from the side and the rear with no luck. Seems every site uses the standard front angled view from samsung's site. Maybe you can help us out. Btw, did you get the 'Performance Service Plan' or the 'Product Replacement Plan' ?

Unbox that 3093 and let us know what you think!!! I've looked everywhere for photos of the 3093 from the side and the rear with no luck. Seems every site uses the standard front angled view from samsung's site. Maybe you can help us out. Btw, did you get the 'Performance Service Plan' or the 'Product Replacement Plan' ?

Hmm, the guy only offered me one plan, the Performance Service Plan, but he said it covers replacement if necessary.

So I've taken it out of the box and done the basic video adjustments using Avia. I must say that I am REALLY impressed with this tv. I've never liked the previous Slimfits but this new Bluejay chip is like a little miracle. The image is very beautiful, much better than my previous 26inch Samsung CRT and better than my 22inch Westy LCD.

My previous CRT had a huge problem with overscanning, thus that was the first thing I searched for. I put in my copy of Amped 3 (Xbox 360 game) because on my old 26 inch the overscan was really bad in that game and I needed to see how the 3093 compared.

I can safely say I didn't notice a single bit of overscan on the 3093. It's like a blessing to have another CRT without overscanning issues, or having to go into the service menu to adjust settings (because I'm stupid and would mess up really bad). I want to try out some of my other games to be sure, but I'm not expecting to find any overscanning.

Also, I haven't noticed any bowing or edge distortion either. Lol, it even says on the sticker on the TV "Distortion Free," so you better keep your word Samsung. :p I don't have cable and haven't hooked up an antenna yet (previous one broke, gotta buy another) so I haven't checked out how the 3093 looks with HD channels or SD channels. I have hooked up my HD DVD add-on (the one for the xbox 360). I watched King Kong and was amazed. Again, looked much better than my LCD and my 26inch.

One small nitpick I have is that god awful beep the TV makes when you turn it on/off. If you've owned some of the previous models then you know what I'm talking about. Sounds like bad circus music. :D But it's not an actual problem so no biggie.

Overall I'm extremely happy with my purchase. Great image and thus far no overscanning or distortion to be found. I wouldn't recommend the previous Slimfits, but the 3093 is awesome (and probably the 2793 as well since they both have the new chip).

Now the true test is to see if the TV will last a year without breaking down. :D

This is what he meant by replacement:

Parts and Labor Coverage
We cover all the parts and labor necessary to return your product to factory specifications. If we cannot repair your product, we will provide a replacement.


That's straight off Best Buy's website in the warranty section (http://www.bestbuy.com/site//olspage.jsp?type=page&entryURLType=&entryURLID=&categoryId=pcmcat90900050002&id=cat12097) .

Possible you can post some photos of your new beauty or send them to me via email?

Well, I picked up the 3093 today. Just my luck the $539.99 sale ended yesterday. I checked the Best Buy website before heading out and the sale price was no longer there. I still managed to convince the manager to give it to me for $549.99 plus the $80 4 year in-home service plan.

This is what he meant by replacement:

Parts and Labor Coverage
We cover all the parts and labor necessary to return your product to factory specifications. If we cannot repair your product, we will provide a replacement.


That's straight off Best Buy's website in the warranty section (http://www.bestbuy.com/site//olspage.jsp?type=page&entryURLType=&entryURLID=&categoryId=pcmcat90900050002&id=cat12097) .

Possible you can post some photos of your new beauty or send them to me via email?

Yes, my plan does cover parts and labor. Hopefully when I get some time I can take a couple pictures. I have a crappy camera but I'll see what I can do. And congrats on the new TV.

I have a 3082 here and i'm getting a green blur in the top right corner of the tv like a magnet is next to it. Called Samsung and they set me up with a service guy and he said he is going to order a new CRT for it...

One small nitpick I have is that god awful beep the TV makes when you turn it on/off. If you've owned some of the previous models then you know what I'm talking about. Sounds like bad circus music. :D But it's not an actual problem so no biggie.

:D

You can turn that beep off I believe.

Hmm. I'm having a small issue with the 3093. It refuses to keep my adjusted 'Picture' settings. Each time I turn the tv on it reverts back to 'Dynamic' mode even though I had set it to 'Standard' and modified the settings. Everything keeps resetting to default settings. Any idea?

Hmm. I'm having a small issue with the 3093. It refuses to keep my adjusted 'Picture' settings. Each time I turn the tv on it reverts back to 'Dynamic' mode even though I had set it to 'Standard' and modified the settings. Everything keeps resetting to default settings. Any idea?

Is your TV in shop mode? On page 68 TheTechGuy had the same problem. Turns out his TV was in shop mode the whole time and that is why it kept reverting back to the original picture settings.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10357180&&#post10357180

It was in shop mode from the factory and using the SM I disabled it. But I believe my picture settings reverted back to default settings even after I set 'SHOP_MODE' to Off in the SM. I'll keep an eye on my settings to see if it happens again. Why would Samsung ship the monitor with that option enabled? The average user wouldn't be able to disable it. Wierd.


Also, I notice the 3093 loses some focus toward the left and right sides of the screen. Grid lines are much sharper in the center 1/3 of the screen. I've read this is a limitation of tube tv's and even more pronounced in shallow depth tubes. How's yours?

I've got mine. Seems to be a little bit of a geometry issue with the TV on the lower left corner. I'll have to pick up DVE or something to calibrate it.

Here's a question for you guys-- my unit doesn't have much in the way of geometry issues, but it does have this really annoying couple of red lines at the top of the display. they're not symmetrical, but they're hideously distracting. anyone know what i might be describing?

they're only visible when whatever is on-screen is either totally black or nearly totally black (or something's being displayed in 16:9 with black bars). i'll try and grab a picture of them.

Here's a question for you guys-- my unit doesn't have much in the way of geometry issues, but it does have this really annoying couple of red lines at the top of the display. they're not symmetrical, but they're hideously distracting. anyone know what i might be describing?

they're only visible when whatever is on-screen is either totally black or nearly totally black (or something's being displayed in 16:9 with black bars). i'll try and grab a picture of them.
I get that at the top, but in blue, only when the screen is black or really dark. I have a tech coming out monday to look at it and will let you know what he says for sure. Over the phone he said it is probably the image is calibrated to small

I get that at the top, but in blue, only when the screen is black or really dark. I have a tech coming out monday to look at it and will let you know what he says for sure. Over the phone he said it is probably the image is calibrated to small

okay cool-- tech from a call to samsung customer support or a warranty service from the retailer?

I wanted to determine which Samsung Slimfits have the new Bluejay processor; so I wrote a short note to Pixelworks, since they are the company that developed the Bluejay chip.. In the reply that I recieved, Pixelworks stated that these models have the Bluejay chip in them =

"Here are the model numbers from Samsung:
29" : TXT2793HX/XAA (online at http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/SlimFitHDTV/files/tx-t2793.pdf)

32" : TXT3093HX/XAA ."

And that's all that was stated in the E-mail that I recieved from Pixelworks.

Sooooo; apparently, the new TXT3093HX models DO have the Bluejay chip...sounds good so far.. but I also have a question.. do these models also have QAM tuners ?

Thanks !~


"

Thanks for the info. I am liking my SD model so much I have decided to add one of these to my family room. I really wanted the BlueJay processor. Unforunately, my built-in is set up for a 4:3 TV, so I'll need to go for the 27". Going today to try and see one.

okay cool-- tech from a call to samsung customer support or a warranty service from the retailer?
if you call samsung they will let the nearest service center know and they will call you

mine has the rainbow too when the scenes are black , also the pictures changes sizes a little when theres a contrast change ligth when going froma dark to brigth place.

thing is i live in mexico and bougth the TV@CC in san diego and its 3 hours from where i live ,im going to try to get samung to offer me a upgrade without having to take the tv then wait and and go back and forth hauling the TV.

Here's a question for you guys-- my unit doesn't have much in the way of geometry issues, but it does have this really annoying couple of red lines at the top of the display. they're not symmetrical, but they're hideously distracting. anyone know what i might be describing?

they're only visible when whatever is on-screen is either totally black or nearly totally black (or something's being displayed in 16:9 with black bars). i'll try and grab a picture of them.
He said there is nothing they can do but adjust the image so that is hidden. With the new tube I got it still had it but red, and he moved the image up 1 pixel and you can't see it anymore.


With the old tube there was about 6 magnets on the because of purity issues from the factory. The techs were not surprised the it lost purity in a short time. The new tube however is very clear in color and the calibration is near perfect. I'm very happy now.

It was in shop mode from the factory and using the SM I disabled it. But I believe my picture settings reverted back to default settings even after I set 'SHOP_MODE' to Off in the SM. I'll keep an eye on my settings to see if it happens again. Why would Samsung ship the monitor with that option enabled? The average user wouldn't be able to disable it. Wierd.


Also, I notice the 3093 loses some focus toward the left and right sides of the screen. Grid lines are much sharper in the center 1/3 of the screen. I've read this is a limitation of tube tv's and even more pronounced in shallow depth tubes. How's yours?

Sorry for the late reply.

I'm not much of a TV watcher, so I still have yet to pick up an antenna. So unfortunately I can not comment how SD television looks. Also, I haven't been into the service menu, actually haven't found much reason to. I've mostly been playing my 360 and watching hi-def movies. Everything looks amazing from corner to corner. Downloaded a couple hi-def moves through the Live Marketplace and those looked stunning as well (but not as good as my HD DVD discs). I just haven't found a reason to attempt to tweak anything in the service menu yet.

Sorry for the late reply.

I'm not much of a TV watcher, so I still have yet to pick up an antenna. So unfortunately I can not comment how SD television looks. Also, I haven't been into the service menu, actually haven't found much reason to. I've mostly been playing my 360 and watching hi-def movies. Everything looks amazing from corner to corner. Downloaded a couple hi-def moves through the Live Marketplace and those looked stunning as well (but not as good as my HD DVD discs). I just haven't found a reason to attempt to tweak anything in the service menu yet.

I just bought this tv on Friday morning,its my first HD set. Like you I'm primarily using it for Standard television viewing and HD gaming on my 360 and PS3. Everything looks pretty good so far but I am tweaking my color settings from time to time just to see how movies,tv programs,and gaming looks. I have noticed that when using my 360 I tend to see abit of interference though. I'm seeing a barely visible verticle line that travels from left to right whenever I have my 360 powered on. It almost reminds me of that same type of fuzzy lines one would sometimes see when using an old RF tv switch box when playing older systems such as Atari 2600s years ago :p

In contrast this same line is never shown when I use my PS3 on this tv. Just curious-does your tv display this line at all when you use your consoles, or to be more specific...your 360? Its probably just a cable going bad on my 360 but I thought I'd ask to be sure.

For what its worth my set does have abit of a geometry issue. I only notice it when I go into 4:3 mode,where the top left corner of the screen isn't totally straight,it has a slight arch. Its nothing major but I am keeping an eye on it to see if it somehow becomes worse.

I'm new to HD sets so I'm just now looking into buying a calibration DVD. So far I love this set. Some warned me that 720P is much better than 1080i but at this point I really don't care. This tv is so much of a step up from a standard tv that I'm totally satisfied with my purchase as I'm mloving every minute of it so far:)

I have noticed that when using my 360 I tend to see abit of interference though. I'm seeing a barely visible verticle line that travels from left to right whenever I have my 360 powered on. It almost reminds me of that same type of fuzzy lines one would sometimes see when using an old RF tv switch box when playing older systems such as Atari 2600s years ago :p
far:)


my slimfit 3082 does this also with xbox 360 over the component inputs. I only really notice it on fully black screens.

I just bought this tv on Friday morning,its my first HD set. Like you I'm primarily using it for Standard television viewing and HD gaming on my 360 and PS3. Everything looks pretty good so far but I am tweaking my color settings from time to time just to see how movies,tv programs,and gaming looks. I have noticed that when using my 360 I tend to see abit of interference though. I'm seeing a barely visible verticle line that travels from left to right whenever I have my 360 powered on. It almost reminds me of that same type of fuzzy lines one would sometimes see when using an old RF tv switch box when playing older systems such as Atari 2600s years ago :p

In contrast this same line is never shown when I use my PS3 on this tv. Just curious-does your tv display this line at all when you use your consoles, or to be more specific...your 360? Its probably just a cable going bad on my 360 but I thought I'd ask to be sure.

What is the output of your 360 set to? 720p or 1080i? Have you tried changing those settings? Does that help?

I just bought this tv on Friday morning,its my first HD set. Like you I'm primarily using it for Standard television viewing and HD gaming on my 360 and PS3. Everything looks pretty good so far but I am tweaking my color settings from time to time just to see how movies,tv programs,and gaming looks. I have noticed that when using my 360 I tend to see abit of interference though. I'm seeing a barely visible verticle line that travels from left to right whenever I have my 360 powered on. It almost reminds me of that same type of fuzzy lines one would sometimes see when using an old RF tv switch box when playing older systems such as Atari 2600s years ago :p

In contrast this same line is never shown when I use my PS3 on this tv. Just curious-does your tv display this line at all when you use your consoles, or to be more specific...your 360? Its probably just a cable going bad on my 360 but I thought I'd ask to be sure.

For what its worth my set does have abit of a geometry issue. I only notice it when I go into 4:3 mode,where the top left corner of the screen isn't totally straight,it has a slight arch. Its nothing major but I am keeping an eye on it to see if it somehow becomes worse.

I'm new to HD sets so I'm just now looking into buying a calibration DVD. So far I love this set. Some warned me that 720P is much better than 1080i but at this point I really don't care. This tv is so much of a step up from a standard tv that I'm totally satisfied with my purchase as I'm mloving every minute of it so far:)


I have this 'vertical line' issue also. It's more like a 1 inch wide vertical bar that can travel either left to right or right to left and moves at different speeds. Setting the 360 to 720p resolves the problem 99.9% of the time since it seems to manifest itself only when operating at 1080i. If you do a google search, you'll see this 'vertical line' problem has been occuring for quite some time with many different tv sets and not only with the 360, but with dvd players, cable and dish signals. In all the threads I've come across, most concluded that setting their component to 720p solved the problem. The problem with me is my eyes prefer 1080i. In any case, ignore the vertical bar or switch to 720p. Hope this relieves any anxieties you have about your new tv having a problem, because it's not the tv.

As far as calibration, I recommend the Avia Guide to Home Theater DVD (http://www.amazon.com/AVIA-Guide-Home-Theater/dp/630551982X) .

I don't have the same TV as you guys, but i always get some interference when first booting up my 360. Even did on my old TV and i have everything running into a power conditoner/surge protector. It goes away tho once a game or movie starts, or when i go into the dashboard. i think it's just from the 360 mechanism when powering up and it's nothing to worry about.

He said there is nothing they can do but adjust the image so that is hidden. With the new tube I got it still had it but red, and he moved the image up 1 pixel and you can't see it anymore.


With the old tube there was about 6 magnets on the because of purity issues from the factory. The techs were not surprised the it lost purity in a short time. The new tube however is very clear in color and the calibration is near perfect. I'm very happy now.

Ah-ha. I've got really excellent calibration and color, but that little red line concerned me. If it's present on a new tube, then I'm not as concerned. It's not noticible unless the room is pitch black and we're watching something with black bars.

Does yours exhibit the geometry issues others are reporting? I've got a tiny bit of bowing along the sides of the image when the cable box upconverts it and centers the picture. It's barely apparent. I eliminated it by configuring the box (SA8000HD) to do DVI/HDMI passthru and setting all regular stuff to display as 480p.

I have this 'vertical line' issue also. It's more like a 1 inch wide vertical bar that can travel either left to right or right to left and moves at different speeds. Setting the 360 to 720p resolves the problem 99.9% of the time since it seems to manifest itself only when operating at 1080i. If you do a google search, you'll see this 'vertical line' problem has been occuring for quite some time with many different tv sets and not only with the 360, but with dvd players, cable and dish signals. In all the threads I've come across, most concluded that setting their component to 720p solved the problem. The problem with me is my eyes prefer 1080i. In any case, ignore the vertical bar or switch to 720p. Hope this relieves any anxieties you have about your new tv having a problem, because it's not the tv.

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Very nice info in here.
I changed my 360 to display 720P and right away the verticle line is gone,thanks for the tip. For a minute I was thinking that maybe the 360s internal scaler might be having fits with the tv but I suppose not now,not when I set the display to 720,it works fine after that. Also,I'm noticing that whenever I watch DVD movies I'm seeing a similiar black strip that never moves,its always static,its about 4 inches right from the center of the screen. Its barely visible when the the color black is displayed within the films I'm viewing. I use to see this sort of thing with an old standard Phillips set so I guess youre right,its just the way tubes are built nowdays. Its nothing major I suppose,I just hope that more of them don't start showing themselves. I've watched 3 films since I last posted and the tv really keeps impressing,the clarity of the screen is really fantastic despite the minor flaws I'm seeing with the verticle line and barely black strip I see when viewing movies.

Thanks so much for the link on where to purchase a calibration DVD.
I'm glad I found this forum,you people are a big help in getting to know the ins and outs with the new tv.

One more thing,I've read about switching from Shop to home mode so that custom settings are saved. But every once inawhile I loose my settings anyways. I've also noticed that the plug and play option is now grayed out and am unable to enter this area so as to see if the tv has gone back to shop mode. Is there a solution for this?

Thanks in advance.

Ah-ha. I've got really excellent calibration and color, but that little red line concerned me. If it's present on a new tube, then I'm not as concerned. It's not noticible unless the room is pitch black and we're watching something with black bars.

Does yours exhibit the geometry issues others are reporting? I've got a tiny bit of bowing along the sides of the image when the cable box upconverts it and centers the picture. It's barely apparent. I eliminated it by configuring the box (SA8000HD) to do DVI/HDMI passthru and setting all regular stuff to display as 480p.
I don't have a cable box so i don't know

Do these new slimfits have Qam tuners?

Hello, this is my very first post and I am posting about the 27" Slimfit TX-T2793H that I ordered last friday and got delivered yesterday and for some reason I got this strange hourglass shape to it and everything. It was working fine when I hooked it up until I turned off the set to get lunch. I come back and turn on the set to play my N64, and there is very weird hourglass shape. And I had the set for about 20 minutes before this happened. Now it is day two and I can't enjoy the sweet taste of HD programming. There is no text distortion, just the hour glass shape.

I called samsung and they referred me to a local tech called Stereo Components here in Boston, and they are going to be here thursday. Do you think I should wait for the tech or get the set exchanged? I ordered it from Best Buy Online.

Thank a bunch

man, i hate my slimfit. i've had a 3082 since about january and every day i'm less and less satisfied with it. forget even being happy with it.

i have 5 major problems.

1. color blotches everywhere. the entire right half of the screen is yellow when it should be white. theres also purple/red/green splotches randomly strewn about. the degauss when you turn the tv on doesnt do anything to fix it.

2. poor geometry. this was to be expected and its not that big of a concern, especially since i havent tried to fix it yet in the service menu. but the extreme loss of focus at the edges is pretty disappointing. whats the point of a wide screen if the extra image is all blurry anyway?

3. unuseable with my pc. using a dvi to hdmi cable, its unuseable. it flickers like crazy. i guess this is to be expected but a huge disappointment.

4. dotcrawl. everywhere. no matter what. the edges of everything no matter the signal exhibit dot crawl.

5. this is my biggest complaint, i'm not even sure if theres a term to describe it. in any situation (high contrast is the most obvious) if something isnt in the center of the screen, it gets a glow around it. which worsens as it gets to the edge. (the best example i can use is marvel vs capcom 2's training mode. the character sprites nearly double in size with this glow around them when they near the edge.)

i was significantly happier when i bought my sdtv which didnt exhibit any of these problems when compared to this "superior" hdtv that cost three times as much.

I recently purchased a Slimfit 3093 and am extremely happy with it. No problems at all with geometry. However, the lower left corner has some minor color irregularity when light colors are displayed. Can this be fixed in the service menu?

Thanks.

Do these new slimfits have Qam tuners?
Samsung abandoned QAM tuners on crts many models ago.

just called the samsung service dealer , he says he cant see any rainbow, nor the pulsations when the tv changes from dark/light or ligth/dark scenes.

but theyre only trying with regular cable , i can see it mostly in hdmi or component with my computer in games is a subtle but noticeable rainbow , enough to make me want to play in my el cheapo monitor.

now im 4 hours from them and the samsung rep wont autorize a change for the 3093 , so im going to hace to travel again to show them the problem and then again to pick up the tv and check everything is ok.

Well, it seems (from this thread) that there are as many problems with the New slimfits as the older ones.

Wonderful :(

I've been patient, always hoping Samsung would learn their lesson and release a reliable working (to spec) slimfit on their latest version...but no, every generation of this series seems to be plagued with the same amount of problems as the previous gen.

It really sucks.

I need something smaller than Plasma makes and there is no LCD that doesn't look like crap. Looks like my SD 27" Toshiba (working perfectly for 6 years) will hold its ground for a bit longer...

Fleaman

One small nitpick I have is that god awful beep the TV makes when you turn it on/off. If you've owned some of the previous models then you know what I'm talking about. Sounds like bad circus music. :D But it's not an actual problem so no biggie.


The user manual for the 93 series states the TV power on/off melody can be turned off as a menu choice (SETUP>MELODY>OFF).

I know that people have been having problems with their new Samsungs, but I'm pretty happy with my set, in general, and the geometry seems to be pretty good. The only problem I'm having is the color impurity in the lower left corner in my screen (see link and pic). It's most obvious in a total red background. Does anyone know how this can be fixed? Is fiddling with the magnetic rings in back of the picture tube the only way to fix this? On a side note, my CRT monitor can fix this through its calibration menu. Or, do you think the corner color impurity is excessive and the set should be returned.

I appreciate any help.
Thanks.

http://www.villagephotos.com/pubbrowse.asp?folder_id=1866174


Note: disregard the white vertical bars. There is a window in the background and light is getting through the blind.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-9/1077791/DSCF0001_resize1.jpg

Well, I dealt with the tv situation and I am going to get the Insignia LCD

I know that people have been having problems with their new Samsungs, but I'm pretty happy with my set, in general, and the geometry seems to be pretty good. The only problem I'm having is the color impurity in the lower left corner in my screen (see link and pic). It's most obvious in a total red background. Does anyone know how this can be fixed? Is fiddling with the magnetic rings in back of the picture tube the only way to fix this? On a side note, my CRT monitor can fix this through its calibration menu. Or, do you think the corner color impurity is excessive and the set should be returned.

I am no expert or repairman, but to me the image looks as if it has a purity adjustment issue or has been affected by stray magnetism. The purity is adjusted by some of the rings on the neck of the tube, but this is a complex adjustment and one that is made during assembly or picture tube replacement. A good degaussing with an external degaussing unit MIGHT take care of the problem. If it were mine, I would try another set as I consider this unacceptable, but from what I have seen in the stores and read in this forum, Samsung appear to have a real QC problem with these sets and I wonder if this is a worldwide problem, or one particular to the sets assembled in Mexico. Certainly, the poor set-up issues are a fault of the assembly plant, but the component failures indicate poor parts or sub assemblies.

87david,

This is an ongoing problem with these sets.

I usually recommend that folks run their sets hard throughout the 30 day return period and if the color issue doesn't resolve on its own (it frequently does) then exchange it (no repairs-you get stuck in a closed loop and never get out).

Hello all,

Long time lurker, first time poster. I remembered this thread from when I was researching the purchase of my HDTV.

I ended up with a 27" Samsung Slimfit TX-R2779H (It's the model with one HDMI and 4:3 Ratio)

I loved it, unlike what seems like almost everyone, I had no noticeable geometry issues, or at least I could never tell. It is perfect size for the room it is in.

Soo... I bought the TV least Feb, and it has been great, there were a couple of things I found out later that I wish, I probably would have gone 16:9 ratio if I had to do it all over again.

TV has been great until two nights ago my GF was watching it, and (According to her, I was actually out of town at the time) it made a "pop" and then smelled like ozone. Now when you turn the TV on, I get either a single white-ish grey line and then what looks like no picture (no menu, no source indication, nothing. but you can see faint grey) or a weird psychedelic line that bows out in the middle and then the same grey picture.

I called Samsung,, but I am out of warranty (by 3 months of course) so according to them I am S.O.L. Try contact service people in you area etc...

I have found a place in the city and when I get some time off work I'll run it by there and see.

Has anyone had similiar issues? Or heard of this before?

This seems like an incredibly short life-span for a TV (1 year and some change)

I've basically decided that if it costs upwards of $200-$250 to repair I will just buy a new TV (Not a samsung obviously) because it only ran me $600 when I got it new.

Any ideas? And thanks in advance.

Sounds like a high-voltage supply problem...I've been told these Sammys have deficient power supplies (I myself have the 27" 4:3 Slimfit in the bedroom.... and love it....)....I've had mine about a year; it doesn't get too much use, as I also have a 26"16:9 Sammy in my living room.
Sorry to hear of your plight.....Murphy's Law strikes again! (I thought I was the "only one" this kind of thing happened to....
Good luck with a (not TOO expensive....) fix....

Thanks guys for the help. I didn't want to say anything in my previous post, but this is actually my second Samsung 3093 in just a few days. My first one was obviously defective, a purple streak across the screen was almost always visible when watching TV (I'll submit a picture later).

My current Samsung, the one in the pics, only exhibits corner color impurity in certain instances, most notably in red backgrounds. From a cold TV "power-on" the problem is much less visible. Once the TV is warmed up, however, the color impurity becomes more visible. I used the internal TV degaussing a few times, it did help some. But I might go ahead and exchange this one.

But aside from the few problems I have had with this TV, it really does display a remarkable picture. My brother tried out two 42" LCD televisions, one by Toshiba and the other by LG (both around $1700), and thought the Samsung's picture was superior.

Which is why I love my Insignia 27" 4:3 hdtv that I got a year ago-wouldn't trade it for any friggin' lcd-I spent 2 hours adjusting the color and a few other items-picture's to die for. CRT's forever!!

Yeah, I totally agree. I really love my CRTs. I don't regret at all purchasing my Samsung 3093. Probably most of the geometry and color issues can be solved in one way or another, since the problem seems to be improper care in setting up theTV.

I still can't believe how low you can get this set; I got mine for $539. Picture and sound are both excellent. Tubes aren't perfect however, so people need a little understanding of the technology, its limitations and what not. LCDs have perfect geometry, but their lack of contrast and poor viewing angles detract from their picture quality.

But here is the picture I was referring to in my previous post about the defective Samsung. On a side note, I'm not bashing Samsung or CRTs in general, I'm just relaying my experience to help educate others in what possibly to look for to evaluate their set. Eventually you'll find you're happy with :) Oh, and excuse some of the anomalies in the pics, not everything you see is real; the anomalies are caused by the camera. The "smudges" or "bars" are definitely real, however, when viewing the colored backgrounds in person.

See vertical streak in left side of screen. This is not so much visible in normal viewing, but is very apparent in various solid backgrounds such as this one.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-9/1077791/DSCF0010_resize.jpg

Under a red background, there are various vertical "smudges" or "bars." It is not so much visible here,but in person it is obvious that something is amiss.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-9/1077791/DSCF0012_resize.jpg


This is the same picture as before with the red background but I changed the hue slightly to show the vertical "smudges" more clearly.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2005-9/1077791/DSCF0013_resize.jpg

Lag issue using Samsung TX-S2782H for X-Box 360 gaming

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Hello, this is my first time posting on this forum.
I am not a techie so please be as clear as possible when replying.

I have purchased 34 Samsung TX-S2782H HDTVs to use in gaming tournaments along with Sony Playsation PS-3's and Xbox 360's. Picture quality is perfect...no geometry problems as reported by many on this site.
However, the gamers are reporting serious lag issues. For example, Guitar Hero players are measuring 113 millisecond lag time. Gears of War players are experiencing lag issues as well.
I am severely confused because this TV is a CRT and should not have any lag. Some of the games are networked using a Linkysis switchport (Gears of War), but other games (Guitar Hero) have the console plugged directly into the CRT.
We are using HDMI cables as well as component cables and the lag problem is reported in all scenarios. SOMETHING DOESN'T SOUND RIGHT!!

Samsumg support says that their CRTs (as with all CRTs) have lag measured in the microseconds which is a much shorter period than the milliseconds that LCD's have due to the refresh rate of an LCD (typically 6-12ms). Is this correct?

Has anyone a clue as to what the problem is? I thought that lag was only an issue with LCD's and plasma TV but not high def CRT's. Am I misinformed?

I'm told by the electricians at the hotel venue that the amperage running to the Samsungs and other components is sufficient. Is there a certain configuration that the Xbox 360, PS-3 or Samsung must be set to otherwise lag will be noticed? Please help!

Thank you.

Lag issue using Samsung TX-S2782H for X-Box 360 gaming

What resolution are your consoles outputting - 720p or 1080i? For that tv, you may want to set the Xbox 360 and PS3 to output the game at 1080i. For some odd reason, the spec sheet for that tv doesn't list 720p as a favorite resolution. Just a thought. I have an interest in that Samsung for gaming also, so your news is discouraging. Let us know if my suggestion helps.

(But then again, XBox 360 games are designed for 720p, so would upscaling 'em to 1080i cause a lag? Hmmmmm.....)

How much better are the latest Slimfits compared to the first ones?

I purchased a 2793H earlier this week. During the first hour, the screen started displaying dim on all inputs (menu appeared the same way). I kept the TV on, and the problem ended up going away (and hasn't happened again over the past few days). The set also has the thin red line at the top as others in this thread have reported.

I bought a second 2793H from a second CC store, and it seems to have alignment problems. I corrected the basic geometry issues in the service menu, but on test patterns like grid and needle/pulse, there is a blue shadow to the white patterns (guess it's an alignment problem for the blue gun?). The thin red lines on this set only appear on the AV-In and S-Video inputs. Also I noticed this set does not seem to emit the same levels of static electricity as the first set (while on or after being turned off).

At this point, I'm thinking the best thing is to keep the original set and live with the thin red line at the top, forget about the static electricity (except to clean the attracted dust off occasionally), and hope the screen problem doesn't return (but I bought the three year in-home warranty to hedge this bet).

My questions before returning the other set are:

-Is there any easy setting in the service mode to get the blue to better align?
-Is it usually normal for this set to emit a pretty big static electrical charge?

Ok, so does the Samsung 30' CRT, TXS3082WHX/XAA, SA01 actually support 720p, or does it upconvert it to 1080i?

Hi, I got this TV as a Christmas present last year. Just recently I put together a really nice computer with a evga 8800 GTS 640 meg video card and I was hoping to use the TV as my monitor. I know this computer with this card is capable of feeding really nice quality video to a good display. Unfotunately, my current monitor is a crappy 17" NEC crt that is going bad on me. I've been playing with the settings in both the TV menus and in my Nvidia control panel, but I cant seem to find any resolution that doesnt make text a blurry mess. Am I kidding myself that I could use this TV as a good monitor? It will be at least 3 months before I can afford to spend $300 on the 22" Samsung monitor that I would like to use if this doesnt work.

Hi all!!!

I'm new in this area!

I have a big question guys!!!

I would like to buy a Hd-ready CRT Samsung WS-32Z308P TV.

I read any problems for this modell & the biggest retentiveness is the geometry problem.
I will use with dvd, ps2 and see a simple tv line-up.

Buy or not buy because not worth?

The TV guy came and hauled my 27" HD Slimfit away today. The geometry took a dive off the deep end. I was starting to actually get motion sickness from watching the news on it.

The TV is still under warranty, and the repair man said that they have been replacing the chassis in this model, rather than actually trying to fix the problem. I wonder, what exactly does the "chassis" consist of in the slimfit?

I bought a 27" Slimfit for the bedroom about 8 months ago and it didn't even make it 3 days in the house before it went back to the store. After about 30 minutes it would start to have an annoying humming sound that would only sometimes go away if you turned the TV off and back on. When I'd turn it on and off it would have quite a bit of static and popping sounds. Not too mention the picture had some minor geometry issues. The last straw was one night when the GF saw sparks inside the casing when I turned it off and on, it was no longer welcome in the house. The thing was a complete piece of junk compared to my other TVs, but it sure did look nice. I had used quite a few Sammy products before and always thought they made decent quality stuff until I ran into this TV. My guess is that the unit wasn't sufficiently grounded but it has made me think twice about buying their TVs again. Too bad it had "issues." Maybe they've improved these sets since my experience with them but obviously I would not recommend purchasing one of these TV's. :P

The TV guy came and hauled my 27" HD Slimfit away today. The geometry took a dive off the deep end. I was starting to actually get motion sickness from watching the news on it.

The TV is still under warranty, and the repair man said that they have been replacing the chassis in this model, rather than actually trying to fix the problem. I wonder, what exactly does the "chassis" consist of in the slimfit?
You have a right to be confused - this is sloppy lingo.

Essentially, the chassis is most everything but the tube. This includes the electronics and the s/w that drives everything the tube does. It's not a bad idea to do this. Better than just swapping out a board.

Cheers!

Ok, so does the Samsung 30' CRT, TXS3082WHX/XAA, SA01 actually support 720p, or does it upconvert it to 1080i?
It supports it and then upconverts it. The term "support" implies that the set recognizes and accepts a 720p signal, then, because the set is 1080i native, the signal gets upconverted for display.

So I would be better off just setting all my stuff to 1080i then huh? I think it's false advertisement for these companies to say that their TVs support 720p but don't really...

So I would be better off just setting all my stuff to 1080i then huh? I think it's false advertisement for these companies to say that their TVs support 720p but don't really...


It actually does 720p. If you have a PS3 set it to 720p only in the system's output settings,the tv will display that resolution. Then hit the info button on the tv remote and it will say your output is indeed 720p.

There is a visual difference when you do this.
I've double checked this by then setting the PS3 back to 1080i and instantly the text in the PS3 web browser adjusts to the new setting and becomes smaller compared to the previous 720p setting.

If thats not enough-a game such as Resistance can only be played in 720p(says so on the back of the box) and not 1080i. Before inserting the game I leave my settings at 1080i with the PS3 but then if I start Resistance the tv will always compensate by adjusting its image(you'll know because the screen will adjust by flashing for a few seconds). Thats your que thats the tv has adjusted to that required 720P setting that the game plays in. You can easily tell the difference because everything from your image to screen text is abit larger than before,and again the info button on the remote verifies this by telling you what resolution your tv us now in.

The tvs default native resolution is indeed 1080i,but it is capable of displaying a 720p image if it needs to.

Hope that clears up your doubts.

Here's an odd problem I've been having with my new 3093. When I connect a game system to the S-Video ports, there is not any sound coming out, all I get is hiss. What could I be doing wrong?

Here's an odd problem I've been having with my new 3093. When I connect a game system to the S-Video ports, there is not any sound coming out, all I get is hiss. What could I be doing wrong?
wginsberg.....
Not to be condescending.....but...you ARE aware that S-Video is just that....video...no audio...You have to connect audio separately with RCA plugs (analog) or coaxial or optical cables (digital)....or did I miss something..?! :confused:

TV has been great until two nights ago my GF was watching it, and (According to her, I was actually out of town at the time) it made a "pop" and then smelled like ozone. Now when you turn the TV on, I get either a single white-ish grey line and then what looks like no picture (no menu, no source indication, nothing. but you can see faint grey) or a weird psychedelic line that bows out in the middle and then the same grey picture.

I called Samsung,, but I am out of warranty (by 3 months of course) so according to them I am S.O.L. Try contact service people in you area etc...

I had the same on my 30" Samsung CRT. 13 months and it was dead. Looked at about $400 to fix so I'm now looking at new TVs (not Samsung).

so ive had this tv for almost 2 years, i bought the display model at best buy (bad idea by the way, especially since i didnt get warranty)... so anyways i have all kinds of distortions in my picture, i have some weird dark verticle smudges as the above poster showed in the pictures. i guess i can live with that as if i try not to pay attention i dont notice anything. what really bugs me, and what my question is about, is the discoloration that i have in my top right corner. it looks as if somebody put a magnet up to the screen. its happened before when i first purchased the tv and i put my center speaker right on top of the tv. eventuallly the smudge went away. but now this new one, which is horribly noticeable, will not go away... does anyone have any idea how i can fix this? im so disgusted with it that im tempted to either bust the screen with a hammer or just give the tv away and buy something else. am i doomed? can i do anything to make that smudge go away? what about those verticle smudges? please help as this is my last resort, im really considering buying a new tv despite being tight on $$$. thanks in advance for any help

dsanbo,
Yes, I have the S-Video and the Red/White audio connections hooked up. When I tune the TV to the S-Video source, however, there is no sound--only hissing, which is strange because I would have thought there should be no sound if it is not working.

Does anyone have a copy or link to the TX-S3082wh Service Menu Pdf that explains what all the settings do?

It used to be here,
http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/content/SM/200507/20050708154431015_S62A-aadj-3.pdf, but the link is dead.

Thanks for the heads up on the chassis replacement. I haven't heard back from the repairman, but am going to give him until Friday before I give him a call.

dsanbo,
Yes, I have the S-Video and the Red/White audio connections hooked up. When I tune the TV to the S-Video source, however, there is no sound--only hissing, which is strange because I would have thought there should be no sound if it is not working.
Hmm... check your TV manual... sometimes you have to plug it into specific audio ports when using a certain input type. On my insignia, I four places to plug in composite cables, but if I use component, I plug it into a seperate port from the composite ones (duh) but I have to use specific audio ports to hear sound from that source. Same with S-video.

I'm on the verge of picking up a 3092. Before I do I need a few definitive answers. I've read almost the whole thread but since the "9" series is still fairly new most of the information didn't pertain to this model.

Here we go:

1) Has the firmware been updated to unlock the QAM functionality on the 3092?

2) Is there a general consensus as to whether the bowing issue has been resolved? I read about the sticker asserting "no distortion" but what have owners actually observed?

3) Is the ATSC tuner the same chipset that is in the current generation of Samsung set top boxes? I ask because apparently the current Samsung tuners are said to be able to pull in a lot more OTA channels due to good signal/interference processing.

4) Does the TV sport a similar channel guide/on screen controls to the Samsung set top boxes?

5) Are there similar products from other manufacturers that are competitively priced that I should research before purchasing the 3092?

Thanks so much!

Follow-up: I went ahead and purchased a 3093 instead. Full review to follow.

I have geometry, pixilation and discolorment issues with my 27" Samsung Dynaflat HDTV again. The first time it was fixed the problems were gone for like a month and then the problems came back and worse then the first time. So I wanted to know if anybody knows what they will repair or will Samung Replace the tv?

I purchased the 3093 from Best Buy for $539.99 USD this weekend. After 2 days of use I feel I am in a good position to offer a preliminary review of the unit, outlining its strengths, weaknesses, dispelling a few myths and confirming a few rumors.

First off, here are a few quick answers to burning questions:

1) Clear QAM tuner? Yes
2) Screen problems (bowing, colored lines, blotchy color or brightness)? No
3) CRT display limitations (horizontal resolution, convergence)? Yes
4) Burning plastic smell? No
5) Black matte bars for 4:3 content? Yes
6) Native 720p? No (Yes, I am sure about this)
7) Recommended? Yes

Out of the box, the screen's geometry was almost perfect. There was no discernible bowing horizontally or vertically. I studied every ticker and letterbox I could find as well as the OSD and found very minimal distortion. The image was properly centered and didn't significantly run off the viewable area. There was slight compression (horizontal squeezing) along the right edge of the image. This was barely noticeable without a test pattern.

Screen performance was excellent. Contrast is ramped up too high by default. Color and brightness is reasonably consistent across the viewable area. There is a slight falloff in brightness and saturation at the corners. Again, this is very minimal and only apparent with a test pattern.

Horizontal resolution and convergence degrade slightly at the outermost right and left 1/3 of the viewable area. This can be discerned within 5 feet from the screen but you really have to be looking for it.

Overall the CRT performs admirably. It suffers from the classic limitations of widescreen CRT technology, but is not exacerbated by poor engineering or QC.

I'm not gonna spend a lot of time talking about the OSD, remote, speakers, input, output, etc. as all of these functions are well implemented but not outstanding or deficient in any significant way that I have discovered so far.

I do have a few things to say about picture quality however.

There has been some debate over what native scan modes this CRT will operate in. It only operates in 1 mode: 1080i. No, I am not an idiot. I'm not debating that CRTs can operate in other modes or that past models operated in other modes, however the 3093 only operates in 1080i. 480i, 480p and 720p are all upscaled to 1080i. This is not necessarily a bad thing, however I would have liked the option to play my DVDs in their native mode without any picture processing.

Speaking of picture processing... As mentioned, the TV only outputs 1080i, so all other formats are resampled. The upside of this is that no matter the format, all output enjoys the density of 1080 scan-lines. The downside is that resampling introduces anti-aliasing artifacts which are noticeable on small, sharp, high contrast features such as text. I'm pretty sure that other processing (some sort of low-pass or noise filter) is being done as well, but I can't say for sure.

Overall the picture quality is suburb. The resampling is less objectionable than obvious aliasing on low resolution sources. At 1080i there is minor vertical aliasing due to limited horizontal resolution.

I do not have cable. I do however have a cable ready apartment. I connected my dead cable jack to the 3093 just to see if the cable company had any unscrambled digital music channels that the Clear QAM tuner could pick up. To my surprise, everything from MTV to the Movie Network to porn (not that I would ever watch it) to Public Access, to A&E and Discovery HD to CNN were all open. 88 DTV & HDTV video channels in addition to almost 100 music channels. A very pleasant surprise indeed!

One thing that the 3093 gets very wrong is that the power cord is located behind the right speaker as opposed to on the IO panel on the back. I have the unit on a TV stand and the power cord is very noticeable draped beside the unit. This is not a deal breaker but seems like a dumb design decision.

In conclusion: If you are budget conscious enthusiast who's been itching to go HD this TV is probably the best product you will find for the price. CRT is not a perfect technology but neither is LCD. The picture quality of this set is quite stunning and the all around feature set seems reasonably complete.

Now onto the service menu!

I purchased the 3093 from Best Buy for $539.99 USD this weekend. After 2 days of use I feel I am in a good position to offer a preliminary review of the unit, outlining its strengths, weaknesses, dispelling a few myths and confirming a few rumors.

First off, here are a few quick answers to burning questions:

1) Clear QAM tuner? Yes
2) Screen problems (bowing, colored lines, blotchy color or brightness)? No
3) CRT display limitations (horizontal resolution, convergence)? Yes
4) Burning plastic smell? No
5) Black matte bars for 4:3 content? Yes
6) Native 720p? No (Yes, I am sure about this)
7) Recommended? Yes

I have a question about answer #5. When the tv is in 4:3 mode with black bars, are there geometry issues with the borders? I messed around with the floor model in a store, and the left and right borders didn't make a straight line at all. Looked quite awful. I'd be using that mode for last-gen gaming, so I'd like to know. Thanks!

I have a question about answer #5. When the tv is in 4:3 mode with black bars, are there geometry issues with the borders? I messed around with the floor model in a store, and the left and right borders didn't make a straight line at all. Looked quite awful. I'd be using that mode for last-gen gaming, so I'd like to know. Thanks!

Letterboxing for 4:3 content on my 3093 is as close to perfectly straight as I could have hoped for out of the box. There is a very slight skew to the bottom quarter of the left and right edges. I will be tweaking the service menu using DVE in the next week to see if I can sweeten the picture and will let you know if I have any luck.

When I say very slight, I mean very slight. My wife and friends could not point out any issues with the picture. I only noticed it because I was looking for it with the help of a test pattern.

Outside of some Sony CRTs I have never seen geometry this good out of the box. I am not distracted at all watching 4:3 content, there is no "hour glass" or "bowing" that would draw your attention.

When I was at Best Buy the display model was pretty wretched too. I am sure it had been running in "torch" mode for weeks and had probably been a return to begin with so I decided to try my luck.

I can't speak for all 3093s. I may have just gotten very lucky, but since Best Buy has a 30 day no questions asked policy I would say give it a shot. Worst case scenario you lose an afternoon lugging the TV back.

Noobie here with a stupid question. I've done a quick search through this thread, but I want to confirm without all the lingo that I don't understand:

I've heard that all of the LCD HDTVs look like crap when displaying SD. I assume that the 3093 looks great on SD (like any of my old picture tube TVs) since its a CRT. Is this correct? I don't plan on spending the $500+ it will cost to upgrade my satellite service to HD ($300 to get the HD DVR, an extra $50 to upgrade service, an extra unknown cost to change my antenna to the right shape, and an extra $10 a month on my service plan).

I was hoping to get a widescreen TV of about this size and price, and this is the only model I can find that's not an LCD. What other TVs like this are out there that are worth looking into?

Thanks in advance for helping this utterly confused person.

Noobie here with a stupid question. I've done a quick search through this thread, but I want to confirm without all the lingo that I don't understand:

I've heard that all of the LCD HDTVs look like crap when displaying SD. I assume that the 3093 looks great on SD (like any of my old picture tube TVs) since its a CRT. Is this correct? I don't plan on spending the $500+ it will cost to upgrade my satellite service to HD ($300 to get the HD DVR, an extra $50 to upgrade service, an extra unknown cost to change my antenna to the right shape, and an extra $10 a month on my service plan).

I was hoping to get a widescreen TV of about this size and price, and this is the only model I can find that's not an LCD. What other TVs like this are out there that are worth looking into?

Thanks in advance for helping this utterly confused person.

I've seen that factor with LCDs. The maddening part is that the person who bought the brand new TV has no clue how bad the picture looks and smugly contentedly thinks he's watching HDTV.

I've got a prior gen Samsung CRT - a 3082WH, and it shows SD content very well indeed. I can't speak to how it handles cable or satellite, but it shows broadcast SD content, both digital and analog, very well, and also does an excellent job with upconverted SD DVDs.

Does anyone here receive picture interference from ringing cellular phones nearby while watching something with the digital tuner? My TXT2082 does this.

Hello, I am writing from Mexico, I have one of this Slim Samsung TVs since three months ago.
Well, this TV set have a problem that consist in strange sounds than are emitted trough the speakers immediately after turn it off. Almost since the first day the tv began to make it, these sounds are a series of “pops” like lots of pops at low volume, the sounds continues for about 5 or 6 minutes and then stop, all this time the tv is supposed to be in Off. The TV don’t show any of this sound problems when is turned ON or in the time when is used to watch the programs. I am very tired to call Samsung for help, they send me a technician and he changed a electronic resistance in the TV but the problem persists. I really don´t know what to do, Any of you have had this problem before? There is some cure to these sounds?
The only way to silence these sound has been to unplug te Tv set.

Thank you for your time, I appreciate it.

I'll try and tackle both of the most recent questions in this post...

First off, SD content is not drawn in its native mode but is upscaled to 1080i on the new 30 inch slimfits. So it is prone to the same kind of scaling/resampling artifacts that LCDs have. That said, SD content looks very good on the slimfits for a couple reasons. The first being that the upscaling routine that the TV performs on SD content does a very good job of anti-aliasing (smoothing out jagged scaling artifacts) and edge enhancement. The second is that most SD content is already tweaked in various ways for CRT displays (edgy, oversharpened, tonal exageration, etc.). These distortions are obvious on LCD but are more subtle on CRT.

The short answer is that SD looks good.

Regarding the popping noises that happen when the TV is shut off. I have a feeling that you are describing the noise of static discharging off the CRT. This is quite noticeable when the TV is shut off after a long amount of activity.

It is perfectly normal and doesn't hurt the TV at all.

Hello johnmurr
Thank you for your help, I believe too that this sound have certain relation with static but in this case these series of “pops” are louder than the sound generated by static in the CRT televisions, this sound is more like a little drum played very fast and in a low volume, this sound come from the speakers, is difficult to explain.
Is like something knocking in a wood table by 5 minutes, suddenly it stops.
Well as you can see is not very easy to describe.

Thank you for your attention.

Are there any big geometry issues with the Samsung Slimfit 30" TXS3082W model?

I had a Samsung 30" HD tube that just recently blew up after four years, and it had some geometry issues that I had to fix.

So are the new Samsung Slimfits geometry prone?

Are there any big geometry issues with the Samsung Slimfit 30" TXS3082W model?

I had a Samsung 30" HD tube that just recently blew up after four years, and it had some geometry issues that I had to fix.

So are the new Samsung Slimfits geometry prone?

The 3082 is more prone to geometry issues than the 3092/3093. The new "9" series have an extra image processor that can perform geometry tweaks on less than perfect tube performance.

A warning to anyone who is messing around in the service menu on the "9" series models: Do not activate the "correct reset" option in the "local correct" page. This will erase geometry tweaks at various points on the image that you can't easily document and restore.

The 3082 is more prone to geometry issues than the 3092/3093. The new "9" series have an extra image processor that can perform geometry tweaks on less than perfect tube performance.

A warning to anyone who is messing around in the service menu on the "9" series models: Do not activate the "correct reset" option in the "local correct" page. This will erase geometry tweaks at various points on the image that you can't easily document and restore.


and on the 9 series, if you go in the service menu, if there are any geometry issues, are they an easy fix?

Also, what are the differences between the 92 and 93 model?

and on the 9 series, if you go in the service menu, if there are any geometry issues, are they an easy fix?

OK, this is a loaded question. You can fix geometry issues, but it ain't easy!

The service menu has a "deflection" page with all of the analog tube adjustments that you need to get the CRT to perform as well as it possibly can.

The service menu also has "line setup" and "local correct" pages which are the interfaces for the Blue Jay processor. These pages allow you to select points on the screen and warp them (literally distort the image around the point in various ways) to smooth out any remaining geometry issues. This processing is similar to the Mesh Warp tool in image editing software.

Here is the difficult part. The "local correct" page only displays the coordinate information and editing values for one point at a time. So you have to cycle through every point and record their values before you reset them. You need to reset them if you decide to mess with the "deflection" menu because you can't effectively tweak the tube if the image is being warped to compensate for different "deflection" settings.

Once you have the tube tweaked to your liking then you can go in and learn how to use "local correct" to smooth out any remaining geometry issues.

I can't stress enough how important it is to make sure that you record the editing values for all of the "local correct" coordinates before you reset them. You can't get the factory tweaks back otherwise!

Also, what are the differences between the 92 and 93 model?

As far as I am aware they are exactly the same except that the 93 has side-firing speakers and the 92 has bottom mounted speakers. I have the 93 so I can't say for certain that the 92 has the Blue Jay chip in it. However both models debuted at the same time and have identical specs so I would assume the 92 can be tweaked just as effectively as the 93.

OK, this is a loaded question. You can fix geometry issues, but it ain't easy!

The service menu has a "deflection" page with all of the analog tube adjustments that you need to get the CRT to perform as well as it possibly can.

The service menu also has "line setup" and "local correct" pages which are the interfaces for the Blue Jay processor. These pages allow you to select points on the screen and warp them (literally distort the image around the point in various ways) to smooth out any remaining geometry issues. This processing is similar to the Mesh Warp tool in image editing software.

Here is the difficult part. The "local correct" page only displays the coordinate information and editing values for one point at a time. So you have to cycle through every point and record their values before you reset them. You need to reset them if you decide to mess with the "deflection" menu because you can't effectively tweak the tube if the image is being warped to compensate for different "deflection" settings.

Once you have the tube tweaked to your liking then you can go in and learn how to use "local correct" to smooth out any remaining geometry issues.

I can't stress enough how important it is to make sure that you record the editing values for all of the "local correct" coordinates before you reset them. You can't get the factory tweaks back otherwise!



As far as I am aware they are exactly the same except that the 93 has side-firing speakers and the 92 has bottom mounted speakers. I have the 93 so I can't say for certain that the 92 has the Blue Jay chip in it. However both models debuted at the same time and have identical specs so I would assume the 92 can be tweaked just as effectively as the 93.

alright, thanks, the only store that has this is at bestbuy, 70 miles away, so i'm going to take a look at it today, and hopefully the geometry isn't bad on this set...

also, have you had to make any tweaks in the service menu, or should it be good straight from the box

Question: I bougth the 3093, and when i go to adjust colors, the color adjustment resets everytime i turn the set off... Is there a solution?

alright, thanks, the only store that has this is at bestbuy, 70 miles away, so i'm going to take a look at it today, and hopefully the geometry isn't bad on this set...

also, have you had to make any tweaks in the service menu, or should it be good straight from the box

The 3093 that I bought had very good geometry right out of the box. I have tweaked the service menu, but most people probably won't have any noticeable issues that would warrant going into the service menu.

Question: I bougth the 3093, and when i go to adjust colors, the color adjustment resets everytime i turn the set off... Is there a solution?

Make sure you don't have "shop mode" activated. You will find the shop mode toggle in the initial setup wizard.

johnmurr, what do you have your color settings on? have you messed with tilt any, and have you messed with any settings in the service menu, and if so, what have you done?

johnmurr, what do you have your color settings on? have you messed with tilt any, and have you messed with any settings in the service menu, and if so, what have you done?

I have my color setting on standard, and my temperature setting on normal. I did adjust the tilt. However, I set my colors in the service menu, so my standard colors are different than the default standard colors.

I calibrated the set through the service menu but it would be pointless for me to give you the values that I came up with because they are specific to each TV. What works for me won't work for you.

If you don't know how to calibrate a TV, your first step should be to find some tutorials/FAQs/etc. on Google. Once you have an understanding of the process then you should get your hands on some calibration software/test pattern DVD/etc.

Be absolutely sure that you document anything you touch in the service menu as there is no way to undo your changes. I like to take pictures of each page of the service menu so that I have a record of all the default values before I do anything.

I was considering giving a T3093WH to my dad for fathers day but I have become a bit confused. Most places that sell this T.V. have it listed as a 1080i set with a max resolution of 1920 x 1080. Yet the official Samsung spec sheet states that it is capable of max 800 lines horizontal resolution, which I read as saying that the tv can display a max of 800 x something. Does this mean that the TV has a resolution of 800 x 1080 (which seems very weird to me), is this tv even capable of real HD (and what is its real resolution), or am I just confused and misunderstanding what is going on with this TV. Please forgive my ignorance but my understanding of how a CRT Direct View HDTV works is rather limited. If anyone could explain this to me I would be very grateful (yes I now this has been mentioned before in the thread but I did not really understand what was being said then). Thank you for your time.

Most places that sell this T.V. have it listed as a 1080i set with a max resolution of 1920 x 1080. Yet the official Samsung spec sheet states that it is capable of max 800 lines horizontal resolution, which I read as saying that the tv can display a max of 800 x something. Does this mean that the TV has a resolution of 800 x 1080 (which seems very weird to me), is this tv even capable of real HD (and what is its real resolution), or am I just confused and misunderstanding what is going on with this TV.

The native vertical resolution (horizontal scanlines) is 1080i.

The native horizontal resolution is very tricky to measure because CRT TVs in general (Slimfits in particular) gradually lose definition at the left and right sides of the image. This is due to the increased angle of the electron beam as it scans the outer most region of the screen. When Samsung claims that the horizontal resolution is 800, it is averaging the very dense resolution of the middle portion of the image with the more diffuse resolution of the outer portions.

In my opinion, from purely subjective tests, the overall enjoyment of the picture is not severely compromised by the falloff in resolution. It can be easily detected if you are looking for it, but since you usually won't be close enough to the screen to notice, and because the action of most scenes is focused in the middle of the image, there really isn't much of an issue.

I remember reading somewhere that the eye is less sensitive to horizontal resolution. I would tend to agree.

As far as whether this set qualifies as HD or not... Yes it does. First off it has an ATSC tuner, so it can receive and display all HD broadcasts. Secondly HD doesn't specify any strict standard for output, but rather encoding and transmission. Most LCDs and Plasmas aren't full 1080 x 1920 either but because they can display HD content they are considered HD.

Consider this: Most low to mid range SD TVs can only display around 400 to 500 lines of horizontal resolution, but nobody ever complained that they weren't true SD because they didn't distinctly draw 640 lines of horizontal resolution.

So johnmurr, the 800 is an average and not really the total lines of res running left to right? A reply I got on another bored stated that the 800 was refering to a test patern of black and white lines used to judge horizontal res. but that the resultes only list the number of white lines which would mean that the tv has to total max horizontal resolution of around 1600. Was he right, was he wrong? I understand what you were saying about no CRT getting the full horizontal standard but is was concerned because 800 is only 40.4% of the advertised standard where even 400 is still 62.5% of 640. Thank you for your time.

How is the geometry right out of the box for the 2793h and how much is cutoff on the sides? Please help?

So johnmurr, the 800 is an average and not really the total lines of res running left to right? A reply I got on another bored stated that the 800 was refering to a test patern of black and white lines used to judge horizontal res. but that the resultes only list the number of white lines which would mean that the tv has to total max horizontal resolution of around 1600.

OK, I just ran a horizontal resolution test pattern. It can only test up to 720 lines (output from DVD). The good news is that even at the outermost edges there was no detectable loss of resolution. So I can say that the lowest possible resolution of the image is greater than 720 lines.

Since I have no way to gauge resolution higher than 720 lines I will have to guesstimate. I would say that the resolution at the center of the image is about twice as sharp as the edges. So I am going to say that at it's best the resolution at the center of image is 1440 lines. If the resolution decays evenly from center to edge this would mean that the average resolution of the image about 1080 lines.

I assume that Samsung has to advertise 800 lines so as not to falsely imply that a higher resolution is achievable at any point on the image.

A reply I got on another bored stated that the 800 was refering to a test patern of black and white lines used to judge horizontal res. but that the resultes only list the number of white lines which would mean that the tv has to total max horizontal resolution of around 1600.

The test in question places black and white lines of increasing width next to each other. The point at which the lines lose definition to the point of being indistinguishable with 50% gray is the point that the screen's resolving power is at it's maximum.

So basically when you can't see the individual lines anymore is when you find the limit of your display. No doubling of results is applicable.

In order to accurately gauge the average resolution of a Slimfit display, one would have to be able to display a 1080i version of the the vertically oriented type of this test with 3 patterns: 1 in the center and 1 at each edge.

i got the 3093, and in the lower left corner there's a purple coloring in really yellow or bright spots... mainly on animated scenes....

and on the top right there's a geometry issue -- not major, but it's not completely straight, it's almost like a "snake"


Though it's not major, and again, only time i've noticed is when watching family guy...

i got the 3093, and in the lower left corner there's a purple coloring in really yellow or bright spots... mainly on animated scenes....

Try turning the TV and see if it disappears. If it does than it is a magnetic issue. Not really sure how you would solve it except by leaving the TV in a position where it doesn't occur.

Try turning the TV and see if it disappears. If it does than it is a magnetic issue. Not really sure how you would solve it except by leaving the TV in a position where it doesn't occur.


could it be my surround sound speakers?

could it be my surround sound speakers?

Are they shielded? Best way to find out is to move them around the TV and see if the issues you noticed go away, change, etc.

I have the 3082 and man is this thing a POS. Geometry problems are unfixable. I've already been in the deflection menu and adjusted every setting with only a slight improvement. Horizontal lines across the top slant down from the left to the right with about a half-inch difference in height from left to right. Horizontal lines across the bottom are about the same height on the left and right but bow up in the middle. With this simultaneous craptasticness, the tilt correction in the user menu is useless. All vertical lines bow inward. The audio out jacks, both digital and analog, only work for devices connected via the composite or s-video jacks. How stupid is this? Why even put an audio out jack on it if won't output sound from hdmi or component inputs. Unfortunately, I bought this tv in the process of moving and didn't open it until two months after I bought it. This means I can't return it for a refund. The best I can hope for is to have a technician come out, mess around in the service menu for an hour, and not get any better result than I did. So I guess I'm stuck with it. Damn you, Samsung. :mad:

Which one to buy, Vizio VX32L vs Samsung TX-T3093?

I wanted to know...with replacements, do you have a choice to do an exchange at a store like Circuit City or Best Buy or do you have to send it back to Samsung.

Please Help!!!

Anyone know what the 6 blinking led code stands for on the Samsung RX-R3079WH?

The tv is not powering up now. The led indicator blinks 6 times, pauses, 6 blinks... and so forth. I couldn't find any mention of the problem codes for this particular led blink pattern.

Note: TV is out of warranty :eek:

thanks!

hey guys i didnt read 73 pages but i got 2 questions please help out,

1) i have a 27'' non hd fullscreen slim fit (dont remember model in my mind) and i think it has bad geometry/ huge overscan? it was bought in CC for my mom but didnt buy extended warranty, so what can i do? call samsung? or how do i fix it?

2) any updates on upcoming big slimfits or discontinued ?

is there a way to get rid of the purpleish glow on the lower left corner on the Samsung 30" Slimfit 3093 model?

it only appears onlike "animated scenes" and on a white background there's a darker shade in that lower corner, any way to solve these problems?

Has any one been successful in connecting a PC to the TXT3093WH?

I was planning to purchase this TV for my XBOX 360 and PC until I down loaded the manual and read that a PC can not be connected to it.

You'd be able to connect a PC via S-Video, but the resolution would be horrible.

Is there purple glow on the 3093 in the lower left normal???

cause if i'm just one in a 100, i'm going to exchange it for the same model and hope to get lucky!

You'd be able to connect a PC via S-Video, but the resolution would be horrible

I’ve got a couple of 8800GTX’s with a DVI to component adapter.

Would I be able to connect the PC by way of the component in connection?

You could give it a shot, but you'd need something like Powerstrip for the custom resolution.

Still trying to find out, is a purple glow in the lower left common on the 30" 3093 slimfits, or is mine a rarity?

and could my dsl modem be affecting my tv, thought he purle light's coming from the left, and the modem's on the right???

PLEASE SOMEONE HELP!

and could my dsl modem be affecting my tv, thought he purle light's coming from the left, and the modem's on the right???

The purple shadow/spot sounds like stray magnetism or an improper purity adjustment, a problem not uncommon to these Samsung tv's. As has been mentioned before, the problem MAY go away in time, but then again MAY NOT. A good external degaussing of the tube might help, but it might only be a temporary fix. You could call in a (warranty) repairman and get his opinion, or just try another unit if your 30 day return period is almost up.

It is unlikely the modem is the source, but you could try moving it and seeing if the problem gets better in a few days. As you probably already know, keep speakers away from the tv. My local B.B. store suggests that the internal speakers on these tv's may not be well shielded and thus causing the various corner image spots one sometimes sees. Who knows?

Opinions please!

I have Samsung TX-S3079 that up until yesterday I was fairly pleased with, a few little I wish this was differents, along with a small amount of distortion that was seldom noticable. Figured I could fix that and live with the wish list, but yesterday while we were in other rooms listening to one of the music stations suddenly there was no more music. When my daughter went to investigate the 4 month old set appeared to have been turned off, she hit the power button and as it powered up she thought she smelled, above the fragrance of cinnamon bread baking and with her allergies deadening her since of smell, an odor of overheated electronics, she wasn't positive but just to be safe she pulled the plug .

When I returned from the back of the house and got her report I plugged it in and as well as the obnoxious odor, our picture was now hour glass shaped.

I called Samsung got set up to take the TV to be fixed at the 2nd closest repair shop (the closest is over 100 miles, this one is more than double that but we have family visiting from there that could deliver and return it.) Now I'm having second thoughts!

Do I have this one repaired? Knowing that if it fails again it's a long way to take it back for service, and then will it ever be reliable?

I could try returning it to Wally World, I know they have been known to accept returns of defective merchandise even after the 90 day return period. If I can return it, do I take a chance and get the same model. If not is there anything close to this price range that is maybe more dependable.

I really need a crt, I love the wide screen and the slim fit just works in our room.

Okay going to go do some more research, any input greatly appreciated.

can anyone help me?


i went to the Service menu on my Samsung TX-T3093WH, and i accidentally messed up some options in the deflaction setting in the menu .. can anyone, maybe give me a reference of the original settings?


thnks a bunch for your help...

:)

I bought a TX-T 3092 WH yesterday and have some questions that you guys with earlier versions or this version of this set may be able to answer.

I have a cable company HD set top box and a dvd player outputted through component ins.

1 - I don't have access to Zoom 1/ Zoom 2 (they are blacked out in the menu) using the set top box, only available when using dvd. Is this normal?

2 - The bottom of the remote has set and reset indentions (not buttons, more like where you would put a paper clip in optical drives to release the transport.) What are these?

3 - In the setup menu plug & play and caption are blacked out with no access. Why would this be? I no longer have access to captions on known broadcasts or dvd as I did last night. Is there something I'm overlooking?

4- purple/yellow splotches in top left hand corner and a little off to the top right hand corner. Ok, these went away after removing my center channel speaker from the top of the cabinet and then powered off/ on overnight. The speaker is thought to be shielded and posed no probs when sitting on the same spot of old SDTV.

TIA for the responses!

The purple shadow/spot sounds like stray magnetism or an improper purity adjustment, a problem not uncommon to these Samsung tv's. As has been mentioned before, the problem MAY go away in time, but then again MAY NOT. A good external degaussing of the tube might help, but it might only be a temporary fix. You could call in a (warranty) repairman and get his opinion, or just try another unit if your 30 day return period is almost up.

It is unlikely the modem is the source, but you could try moving it and seeing if the problem gets better in a few days. As you probably already know, keep speakers away from the tv. My local B.B. store suggests that the internal speakers on these tv's may not be well shielded and thus causing the various corner image spots one sometimes sees. Who knows?

well, i can def. return it, and my surround sound speakers are next to the tv, and are shielded, how do i degauss my tv?

Hi, new to the forum. I apologize for not reading all the pages in this thead (it's huge). I've got a Slimfit model TXS3082WHX that was recently serviced and I have noticed a pretty bad (well i consider it) bend in the upper left corner whenever I loaded up games in either the PS3 or 360. I have learned the sequence for the Service Menu but I don't want to mess with it unless I know exaclty what change in it's setting might correct the bend. Is there any settings in the service menu that can correct it or is that something I just have to deal with?

Also, and maybe it's just the games/consoles themselves, but I have noticed some games seem to pan offscreen (text and things) and some games don't. It's very weird.

Do I have this one repaired? Knowing that if it fails again it's a long way to take it back for service, and then will it ever be reliable?

I could try returning it to Wally World, I know they have been known to accept returns of defective merchandise even after the 90 day return period. If I can return it, do I take a chance and get the same model. If not is there anything close to this price range that is maybe more dependable.Wally's might well take it back, but they might only give you store credit or exchange for the same or similar model. Only way to know is to ask.

So johnmurr, the 800 is an average and not really the total lines of res running left to right? A reply I got on another bored stated that the 800 was refering to a test patern of black and white lines used to judge horizontal res. but that the resultes only list the number of white lines which would mean that the tv has to total max horizontal resolution of around 1600. Was he right, was he wrong? I understand what you were saying about no CRT getting the full horizontal standard but is was concerned because 800 is only 40.4% of the advertised standard where even 400 is still 62.5% of 640. Thank you for your time.Horizontal resolution on CRTs generally just refers to the number of RGB triads arrayed across the screen horizontally. These triads can take the form of either dots or slots for shadow mask type CRTs, or stripes on CRTs that use an aperature grille. Sony Trinitrons use the striped aperature grille approach, while most other CRT TVs (including the Samsung Slimfit, I believe) use a slot mask.

Closeups of a slot mask and aperature grille (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Shadow_mask_vs_aperture_grille.jpg)* (The slightly lighter and darker horizontal bands in the right image are the scanlines btw.)

If the horizontal rez is 800, that probably means the Slimfit has 800 sets of RGB slots across the screen.

One RGB triad on a CRT is roughly analogous to one pixel (composed of a red, green and blue subpixel) on an LCD or plasma display. Comparing the resolution of a CRT to so-called fixed pixel displays (LCD/plasma) can be a little difficult though, because there are other factors that influence how much detail can be resolved on both types of displays than just the number of RGB slots or pixels on the screen. The focus, convergence, bandwidth of the CRT drivers, and quality of processing can all influence the level of detail achievable on a CRT for example. CRTs can also display discrete visual information in each red, green and blue slot or stripe on the screen. If a CRT has good processing, focus and convergence, then the perceived resolution will be much higher as a result. LCD and plasma displays can accomplish something similar via subpixel control/rendering. (Panasonic LCDs and plasmas use subpixel control btw).

The pixel size is usually uniform across the entire screen on FPDs as well, while on CRTs the triads are generally a bit wider toward the left and right edges of the screen than in middle. The focus and convergence tend to be weaker near the edges as well, so the level of detail on a CRT is usually greatest in the middle of the screen, as johnmurr mentioned earlier.

Has any one been successful in connecting a PC to the TXT3093WH?

I was planning to purchase this TV for my XBOX 360 and PC until I down loaded the manual and read that a PC can not be connected to it.

well you can get a graphics card with a dvi out and get a dvi to hdmi cable and get HD resolution with an Nvdia graphics card.

well, i can def. return it, and my surround sound speakers are next to the tv, and are shielded, how do i degauss my tv?

I would keep the speakers, even though they are shielded, at least several feet away from the tv, because these set's seem very sensitive to stray magnetism. Every time you turn the tv on, the tube should be degaussed (demagnetized) automatically by a built-in circuit. A technician can use an external degaussing coil for situations when the built-in device cannot remove the magnetism effectively, so if the spot gets no better you might see about a warranty repair (tech. assessment/external degaussing), assuming this can be done before your return period expires. I hope this helps.

can anyone help me?


i went to the Service menu on my Samsung TX-T3093WH, and i accidentally messed up some options

Each TV is manually tweaked for the unique output each CRT. There are no universal or generic settings (especially for geometry).

If you only messed with the deflection menu you aren't in too much trouble though. Make sure that whatever you do, don't go to either the "line setup" or "local correct" sections of the service menu as these are far more complicated and can do much more harm.

As far as correcting the deflection settings, start by lowering the horizontal and vertical amplitude so you can see the entire image then begin adjusting settings to see how each setting affects the image (learn what each setting does, how far it can be pushed, what other settings it interacts with, etc.). Once you get comfortable with the settings begin tweaking them incrementally until you get a good picture back.

Getting a test pattern up on the screen would really help your cause too.

well you can get a graphics card with a dvi out and get a dvi to hdmi cable and get HD resolution with an Nvdia graphics card.

Thanks for the response. My 8800GTX's came with DVI to Component cables.

I have seen DVI to Component cables, but I have not found any DVI to HDMI cables.

Would I even notice an image quality difference with a DVI to Component cable vs. a DVI to HDMI cable?

My main concern now is the fact that the manual clearly states that a PC can not be connected to this TV. I’m wondering if it is just because it lacks a VGA input or is it something else. A lot of my PC games have 1920x1080 resolution as an option so matching the TV’s native resolution with the PC is not a problem.

I would keep the speakers, even though they are shielded, at least several feet away from the tv, because these set's seem very sensitive to stray magnetism. Every time you turn the tv on, the tube should be degaussed (demagnetized) automatically by a built-in circuit. A technician can use an external degaussing coil for situations when the built-in device cannot remove the magnetism effectively, so if the spot gets no better you might see about a warranty repair (tech. assessment/external degaussing), assuming this can be done before your return period expires. I hope this helps.

well thing is the tv's in my bedroom and how the room is set up, the speakers are confined to sit beside the tv.... cause my room is pretty narrow...

Each TV is manually tweaked for the unique output each CRT. There are no universal or generic settings (especially for geometry).

If you only messed with the deflection menu you aren't in too much trouble though. Make sure that whatever you do, don't go to either the "line setup" or "local correct" sections of the service menu as these are far more complicated and can do much more harm.

As far as correcting the deflection settings, start by lowering the horizontal and vertical amplitude so you can see the entire image then begin adjusting settings to see how each setting affects the image (learn what each setting does, how far it can be pushed, what other settings it interacts with, etc.). Once you get comfortable with the settings begin tweaking them incrementally until you get a good picture back.

Getting a test pattern up on the screen would really help your cause too.


thank you for your response.. now that im here, can you recommend any good dvd software to calibrate any hdTV

Wally's might well take it back, but they might only give you store credit or exchange for the same or similar model. Only way to know is to ask.

Put the call in, no return, but they did give me the name of a repair shop closer than the others, they still send it to the other end of the state but I figure that's on their shoulders if anything happens in route.

I was able to get them authorized through Samaung, so we see what condition it comes back in and stays in after that.

Thanks for the input
Dee

well thing is the tv's in my bedroom and how the room is set up, the speakers are confined to sit beside the tv.... cause my room is pretty narrow...

You could always move the speakers just for a few days to see if they are the problem.

I just recently purchased a Samsung SlimFit TXT3093WH the other day. It worked great. But like 3 days later..I watched TV for like 4 hours..then I turned it off....5 mins later, wanting to watch more..i hear the sound when it turns on. But the screen is black. Any input on this? Do I need to consider a tv? Thanx.

OK, I exchanged the 3093 for another 3093, and it's still having the discoloration problems as before, but i moved out the surround sound before it urned this TV on...

What do you guys suggest? I was just going to call Samsung, and have them send a service man to fix the set...

OK, I exchanged the 3093 for another 3093, and it's still having the discoloration problems as before, but i moved out the surround sound before it urned this TV on...

What do you guys suggest? I was just going to call Samsung, and have them send a service man to fix the set...

I would certainly call Samsung and have a technician look at it and hopefully repair it. Please let us know what transpires. Good luck!

@johnmurr

Need advice, i went to DHC Local Cor, and it gives pattern of red lines, and green square on first cross, and in five rows are , x, y, point, curve , and reset. Now dont ask why but i hit reset with number 9 and it went pretty bad. It doesnt look that hard to adjust it , but how does it work, i cant move that green square , and how do i move it in first place? Thanx in advance.

I just found in menu Local Cor Ena, witch probably turns that feature on and off, and when i set zero there it goes back to ok picture, still i would like to know how to adjust Local Cor , waiting for your answer, when i move left and right, or volume up and down it changes point value and moves whole vertical line, i just dont get it. It would be nice to position that green square on intersection and then move it up and down, that way it would be possible to adjust picture to almost perfect, maybe pull up left and right bottom points and straighten horizontal bow in bottom maybe?

EDIT: fount out next, 1 allows cursor to move, y moves by one up and down, x moves 1-5-11-15, cant select beetween. 2 on remote allows to move, changing point value, 3 on remote changes curve , and 4 moves whole vertical line. Thats all i found out. I returned all values to 0 and adjusted a bit some points, but i am very disapointed, i was hoping to be able to move dots up and down to fix horizontal bow, but this seams like another one horizontal adjust only, maaaan when i first saw this i was like, wow this is perfect, can do anything with image, please tell me i am wrong and it has hidden vertical movement :)

Inquiring minds would like to know whats the difference between the TX-T3093WH and the TX-T3092WH?

I haven't had a chance to view the 3092 in a proper setting, as the only place that has one is Frys, and its hooked up to some crappy picture Bose demo station. The obvious difference is the speaker location, but are there others? How does the picture and build quality compare?

I am trying to compare my options on these two TVs, verses the XBR970. If I got the 3092, it would fit in my entertainment center perfectly. If I get the 3093, I'd have to replace the center and get a bigger stand. If I get the XBR970, I'd have to get a reinforced steel stand to support the weight!

Thanks for all of your help, I really appreciate it!

-Noise

Hi everyone:)

Im from Europe, Slovenia, and am buying a CRT HDTV, since the picture is better than LCD. Should be:)

So is this Slimfit good?

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You in the US have different models. But which CRT HDTV (not above 600 EUR) do you recommend. Which is the best for that price?

The slimfit is a good deal I think because it has only 15 Kg.

Is it 1080i or 720p? Can it do 720p and not convert it to 1080i?

And is the picture really better than an LCD of the same price? And the SD picture should be superiour to the LCD SD?

Please help:)

Hm, just looked on google, and DHC stands for Digital Horizontal Correction, so no vertical adjustment... i dont believe it, about 20 horizontal adjustments possible in service menu, and not a single one for vertical... that bow on bottom is driving me mad... aaaaa why there isnt DVC :mad:

Hi guys!

I've got the TX-T3093WH slimfit. I've noticed that a majority of the time when I press the power button, either the remote or the panel, I'll hear a noise that sounds like a power surge, but then I'll have to press the power button again to get a display on the screen. I smell nothing wrong, but I know this has to be wrong.

Wheeler, I have had the same issue with my TX-2782 (4:3)

It has happened sparingly, I can only count on 1 hand, but still disturbing.

I sent it in to be looked at just today and I'll see what is going to happen.

Does this sound occur when you turn on the TV to a digital channel?

My TXT2082 makes a funny noise whenever it does that.

I'm considering picking up the 30" Slimfit TX-T3092WH at Best Buy since it's an HD tube without the 200lb. weight of Sony's TV's. I'm concerned about buying one though. Is the PQ on par with Sony's crts? I can get a KV-34HS420 for the same price as the Slimfit right now and I'm thinkin the PQ and the extra 4" will give it a big advantage. But the Slimfit's weight would be a big advantage since it's coming to college with me. Is it true 16:9 Slimfits have geometry issues with 4:3 material? And BB's site claims the Slimfit I'm looking at is full 1920x1080i and I find that pretty difficult to believe since the Sony XBR960 is 1440x1080i and it's the king of crts.

I press power and the super mario noise comes on but there is nothing on screen and there is no function of the source button or menus nothing comes up and i was jw if anyone knew how to fix it. thanks in advance

Another question to go with my previous one: how well do the Slimfits handle SD content?

And here's another: is the 30" the measure of the entire tube or the viewable area on the tube?

The 30" is measured diagonally. If you're looking to find out the total area, it's about 26x14.

The 30" is measured diagonally. If you're looking to find out the total area, it's about 26x14.

I know it's measured diaganally, I'm asking if the measure is taken of the entire tube (including the few inches that extend into the casing) or of the viewable area of the tube.

In the USA the measurement is 30" diagonally across the visible screen, here in the UK we include the bit you can't see so we refer to these TVs as a 32" size and the 34" Sony mentioned above would be a 36" TV to us etc.

Hello,

New to the forums and new to HDTV.

The last set I purchased was a 27" Sony Trinitron in 1996. That set gave up the ghost prematurely(I was hoping to make it to Feb 2009) this past Friday and I went looking for a new TV. Not being very up to date on the new tech and having only 11 channels of basic cable but having a rather extensive DVD collection and a Nintendo Wii I went for the best looking set that had a case dimension no larger than 37 1/2" so as to not have to replace my entertainment center.

I wound up with the TX-T3093WH and promptly began to look up info about it which led me here. It also led me to BestBuy's website where I learned that the TX-T3092WH had bottom mounted speakers and a smaller case width so that I could still keep my Nintendo Wii in the cabinet instead of having to move it out.

Needless to say I ordered a 3092 and will return the 3093 near the end of Best Buy's return policy once I see the 3092 is just as functional.

I have read a good deal of this thread from the middle forward and am totally clueless about calibration and most of the other things johnmurr was doing an fantastic job of explaining. Out of the box the 3093 I have seems to be perfect with no color problems anywhere, no distortion on 4:3 and only the gripe that I have to use Zoom1 on most letterboxed movies in order to get the best picture from my DVDs but I guess the standard 16:9 doesn't always cut it.

Specifically I wonder do i need to calibrate the TV? I am also worried that as good as the 3093 seems to be when I plug in the 3092 it wont be as good.

Any help for a total HD noob would be much appreciated.

I went shopping with a friend the other day who needed a new 27" CRT TV.

We picked up a TX-T2782 Samsung Slimfit.

This TV has had random discolorations appear at various points in the screen. Upper left, lower right, sometimes both upper left and right...

We power cycle the device and they go away for awhile but come back.

We've moved all magnetic field devices away from it and it still happens..

Best bet would probably be to return it, huh? We really wanted to find a decent 27" CRT but the choices they had at BB were so limited...

Do you think if we exchanged for the same model, we'd run into the same problem? Or should we just look into something entirely different?

I went shopping with a friend the other day who needed a new 27" CRT TV.

We picked up a TX-T2782 Samsung Slimfit.

This TV has had random discolorations appear at various points in the screen. Upper left, lower right, sometimes both upper left and right...

We power cycle the device and they go away for awhile but come back.

We've moved all magnetic field devices away from it and it still happens..

Best bet would probably be to return it, huh? We really wanted to find a decent 27" CRT but the choices they had at BB were so limited...

Do you think if we exchanged for the same model, we'd run into the same problem? Or should we just look into something entirely different?

I am by no means an expert but I think I read in this forum that the 8 series of these TVs only have one image stabilizer and the 9 series have two to correct this problem. Or something to that effect.

I am by no means an expert but I think I read in this forum that the 8 series of these TVs only have one image stabilizer and the 9 series have two to correct this problem. Or something to that effect.

If this is true, maybe I can get it exchanged (and pay the difference) for a 2793...

I'd just like some more confirmation from anybody, please and thanks! (Will be planning to check this out on Friday..)

Here's a strange question for everybody...

My SDTV is a hand-me-down...and it's OLD! (Composite and RF hookups only). Ouch. Time to move on.

I was looking for a nice 27" EDTV because I currently have no need to go higher than 480p with all my video inputs (last gen gamer here). But as you all know, EDTVs that size have been phased out. So I've been looking at the 9 series of the 27" Samsung SlimFit HDTV because it's the closest thing out there. What is that tv gonna do to all my 480i / 480p stuff? Bump it up to 1080i? That seems like a huge jump. And because it's such a huge jump, would I be better off just getting a high quality SDTV with component inputs and skip the 480p? Which one would give me the best quality for last gen gaming? (And can you really see a difference between 480i and 480p when gaming?) 480p seems to be the bastard child stuck between true HDTV and SDTV. Any thoughts?

Here's a strange question for everybody...

My SDTV is a hand-me-down...and it's OLD! (Composite and RF hookups only). Ouch. Time to move on.

I was looking for a nice 27" EDTV because I currently have no need to go higher than 480p with all my video inputs (last gen gamer here). But as you all know, EDTVs that size have been phased out. So I've been looking at the 9 series of the 27" Samsung SlimFit HDTV because it's the closest thing out there. What is that tv gonna do to all my 480i / 480p stuff? Bump it up to 1080i? That seems like a huge jump. And because it's such a huge jump, would I be better off just getting a high quality SDTV with component inputs and skip the 480p? Which one would give me the best quality for last gen gaming? (And can you really see a difference between 480i and 480p when gaming?) 480p seems to be the bastard child stuck between true HDTV and SDTV. Any thoughts?

Is cost your primary concern? If so then I can see your point, but for a few hundred dollars more you could get a TV that will handle both your 480i games and newer HD input. For the trouble and cost of moving in another big tube TV, I cant see buying a standard definition model that will only provide slight improvements in your current picture quality. For example if you were to plug component cables into your new 480i set, the only improvements you may notice would be in convergence, color, and brightness over a worn-out tube. I personally would either try the Samsung 27 or the Sony XBR970 (if you have room and a strong TV stand). The Samsungs tend to have more quality problems, but the Sony is a beast to move.

Is cost your primary concern? If so then I can see your point, but for a few hundred dollars more you could get a TV that will handle both your 480i games and newer HD input. For the trouble and cost of moving in another big tube TV, I cant see buying a standard definition model that will only provide slight improvements in your current picture quality. For example if you were to plug component cables into your new 480i set, the only improvements you may notice would be in convergence, color, and brightness over a worn-out tube. I personally would either try the Samsung 27 or the Sony XBR970 (if you have room and a strong TV stand). The Samsungs tend to have more quality problems, but the Sony is a beast to move.

Cool. Thanks. I'm just ignorant on how 480i looks on a CRT HDTV. I don't wanna forsake the old while embracing the new.

How do you guys think the PQ of the TX-T3093WH stacks up to one of Sony's HD CRTs like an XBR970 or HS420? Can the black levels and shadow detail stack up? What about color accuracy? Focus? Detail? Sharpness? Gradations between colors?

Just got the Samsung TX-T2793H TV and am very disappointed with the TV. Have an Insignia 27" hdtv also from BB and that shows way better in everything and so sorry i made the choice to get this TV. I taught it show better than the Insignia but it was a big waste of money. The picture quality is horrible all the colors seems saturated on all 3 modes the TV has and its dark where ever black is showing even if i increase the brightness but the just saturates the colors more. My 360 looks horrible on this thing comparing to the insignia can't get the color the way its suppose to look. I have regular cable and that dosen't look right either dark as usual. There is another thing it seems as if the TV screen line up isn't straight it dips on the left side. The left side of the screen is down as if the screen is not horizontally lined up properly. This is a brand new TV just opened and those are the problems am having with it. Is there and upgrade or something like that for this TV.

Just got the Samsung TX-T2793H TV and am very disappointed with the TV. Have an Insignia 27" hdtv also from BB and that shows way better in everything and so sorry i made the choice to get this TV. I taught it show better than the Insignia but it was a big waste of money. The picture quality is horrible all the colors seems saturated on all 3 modes the TV has and its dark where ever black is showing even if i increase the brightness but the just saturates the colors more. My 360 looks horrible on this thing comparing to the insignia can't get the color the way its suppose to look. I have regular cable and that dosen't look right either dark as usual. There is another thing it seems as if the TV screen line up isn't straight it dips on the left side. The left side of the screen is down as if the screen is not horizontally lined up properly. This is a brand new TV just opened and those are the problems am having with it. Is there and upgrade or something like that for this TV.

Dang, dude. That sux because I was considering buying that tv myself. These are the stories I hate to hear. I've read there are many "lemons" in this batch of TVs, and people who have returned them for another one within 30 days often have better luck the 2nd time around. Errr...and sometimes not.

Lemmie ask the forum - what is expected of the consumer when they get this tv home? Should it work right out of the box, or is it expected that some major tweaking and callibration is involved?

I just wanted to cut and paste this customer review I found for the TX-T2793H. Nice to finally see a happy owner of this tv.

"I've owned this TV for about a week now and all I can say is the new TX-T2793H Samsung Slim-fit picture is much improved over the previous model (TX-T2782H).

On this new model, there is only the slightest hint of bowing...hardly noticeable even under the most scrupulous eye - a vast improvement over the more obvious bowing found on earlier models.

The 2793H model boasts great color, sound, and razor sharp picture...HD or non-HD analog!!!

Hopefully, things will stay this way until next month and beyond...As of now, there are no other major flaws in this model. If anything else happens. I will update this review....

AS OF NOW....I THINK SAMSUNG FINALLY DID IT....HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TV FOR EVERYDAY VIEWING!!!!!!"

All:

I just got a TXT-3092WH. It exhibits some of the flaws commonly described here: the set has a small amount of bowing at the bottom right, and the picture is soft at the extreme edges. These imperfections are only noticeable with a test grid on the screen, and they are certainly bearable.

However, I have a geometry issue I haven't seen discussed here, and it is much more noticeable: the picture is vertically "squished" in the middle of the screen. This "squishing" is very noticeable with the test grid: the squares in the middle are narrow rectangles. The impact on the viewing picture is that faces look very tall and skinny when in the middle of the screen. If the camera pans and a face moves across the screen, it will look normally-shaped across the left and right sides, and tall/skinny in the middle.

I am going to attempt to resolve this geometry issue in the service menu, but I'm not sure what settings to start with. Is this a "local correct" issue?

Also, does anyone have a document or link with calibration directions for these newer TVs?

Thanks for any help or advice that you can offer!

I am considering getting the Samsung TX-T2082 and I'm wondering if it's any good? Has anyone had any problems with it? Are there any 19"-21" CRT tvs out there that are any better for around the same price?

I'm not looking for anything fancy. I want something that will last at least 5 years without any problems. I'd be perfectly happy with a tv that has the same picture and sound quality as those made in the late 90's.

I received my 3092 last night and got it plugged in and running with all the same settings as the 3093 except that on two channels that I fine tuned I had to set different settings than I had before. No big deal to me.

The only thing I notice that I hadn't noticed when I first posted is that on completely black screens the four corners seem to have a white creeping in. It isn't noticeable on letterboxed screens only a completely black screen such as the "commercial break" on a Lost DVD. It is exactly the same on both TV's so I figure it isn't an issue but if anyone knows if it can be fixed I would be much obliged for some help.

Also, I have about three weeks left on my Best Buy return policy and I would like to sell the 3092 instead of returning it so that I can keep the miles on my credit card. Not sure if this is kosher to mention on the board but if anyone is interested PM me.

I received my 3092 last night and got it plugged in and running with all the same settings as the 3093 except that on two channels that I fine tuned I had to set different settings than I had before. No big deal to me.

The only thing I notice that I hadn't noticed when I first posted is that on completely black screens the four corners seem to have a white creeping in. It isn't noticeable on letterboxed screens only a completely black screen such as the "commercial break" on a Lost DVD. It is exactly the same on both TV's so I figure it isn't an issue but if anyone knows if it can be fixed I would be much obliged for some help.

Also, I have about three weeks left on my Best Buy return policy and I would like to sell the 3092 instead of returning it so that I can keep the miles on my credit card. Not sure if this is kosher to mention on the board but if anyone is interested PM me.

I really doubt anyone is gonna buy it off you for the price you bought it when they could just as easily go to BB and pick one up new with a return policy. I'd return it before your warranty goes bye bye if you really don't want it.

I really doubt anyone is gonna buy it off you for the price you bought it when they could just as easily go to BB and pick one up new with a return policy. I'd return it before your warranty goes bye bye if you really don't want it.

Dig it. Never hurts to ask though, right?

Are these SlimFit TV's good or not?

Are these SlimFit TV's good or not?

From what I understand they have good PQ (but not great) if you can get a set that doesn't have debilitating geometry issues. I'm gonna keep lookin for an XBR970 and may end going with a GDM-FW900 monitor before I resort to one of these.

Hey all,

I am out visiting the inlaws in Colo Springs and had a couple of questions. I bought them a Samsung TX-R2779H (HDTV with built in HD tuner) in Nov 05 and they have it connected to a set of Rabbit ears. I just have a couple of questions that I hope one of you can answer:

Channel 11-1 - on their TV I get a good signal but the view is bordered in either 16:9 or 4:3, in 16:9 it becomes a view in the middle of the screen with a 2 plus inch border all the way around. I don't think that is normal and it is the only channel it does that on.

Also, is there a way to punch in a digital channel on the remote, like if I wanted to go straight to 11-1 how would I punch it in the remote. I didn't see a -> button on it.

Any help would be great thanks

Josh

You'd press on it 11 - (< next to the 0) 1 and then hit the Enter key.

Hi guys,

Like others, I am also wondering the differences between the Samsung tx-t3092wh and the tx-t3093wh. Is it just looks, and speaker placement, or is there more to it?

Like others, I still want a CRT TV, so that SDTV looks good as well, and I've always had good luck with the longevity of CRT televisions. If someone could give me some advice here, I'd really appreciate it.

P.S. Has Samsung actually made any software updates (supposedly uploadable via the USB port) since the release of these units? Just curious to know.

I saw this TV yesterday at CC.

The overall picture quality is 10-20% worst than a regular Samsung 30" HDTV.

The picture is out of focus when you are using an analog signal (it was on ch 55 at CC). The text quality is worst than a regular TV in this mode.

The picture quality is acceptable when you are using a HDTV source (on Component 1 at CC). It is not as good as any Sony CRT HDTV.

It's been a long time since I've worked in retail electronics (over 15 years ago), but even so, I learned one thing --never trust picture quality based on what is at the store.

Half of the time, the signal is routed through a cheap signal amplifier, then a ton of splitters, so it can be provided to multiple TV's. I saw so many TV's with poor picture quality that magically improved when plugged into a proper source. Fuzziness was not unusual when plugged into the store signal. The only way to get a true example was to plug a VCR or LaserDisc (DVD players were still off in the future at the time) into the TV and show a customer the true quality of the unit we were selling, otherwise they got the impression that we sold crap.

Does the new TX-3093 SlimFit model have picture blurring along the sides of the screen like the older SlimFit models?

The only thing I notice that I hadn't noticed when I first posted is that on completely black screens the four corners seem to have a white creeping in.

I just got my 3093 last night and threw in Friday the 13th to check it out. That is a pretty dark movie, and the white coming in from all 4 sides was VERY distracting. I did lower the brightness which helped some, but I find it to be noticeable no matter what I am watching. Does anybody have any pointers or solutions? Is it possible that this set is defective? I do like the picture (at least what's not affected by the white), but I can't live with it like this. Please keep in mind that I'm a novice with this stuff, so any help needs to be dumbed down so I can understand. Thanks a bunch!

Here is a strange problem I have been having lately with my 3093. Everytime I turn it on or off, it generates a large amount of static electricity. The static is moderately loud and will shock you if you are touching another metallic object while near the screen. Any ideas as to what could be causing this? I have only had the set a couple of months.

Is it possible that this set is defective?

I would wager that it isn't defective since the 3093 and the 3092 I have used for the past two weeks both have the same problem. It seems worse on the 3092 so it may just be a brightness issue.

Owing again to the fact that I have had both TVs running for the past couple of weeks I feel I can safely answer the questions everyone is asking about the differences between the two sets outside of speaker placement.

The first thing I noticed before even removing the 3092 from its box was the lack of handles at the back. The extra case width of the 93 provides a place for Samsung to put a very useful set of handles for wrestling this 100lb TV. The 92 lacks these and the only logical reason why I see is the speaker placement.

Second, the silver speaker grille decreases the aesthetic appeal of the 92 significantly. The 92 also has a silver border around the entire case that while necessary for visual distinction between the two, I have to say that the 93 is a much more appealing set to view when the power is off. Samsung's own website says that the side mounted speakers enhace the visual appeal of the 16:9 aspect ratio and they are correct. The 92 gives you the air of a plain jane TV whereas the 93 gives you that look of a higher end set. Were it not for the entertainment cabinet that I currently own I would have kept the 93.

Again by necessity the TV controls for use sans remote on the 92 are located on the side of the case versus in the front near the silver medallion on the 93.

Other than those cosmetic differences, made so by Samung solely for the purpose of catering to consumers like myself who needed a not so wide set to fit my TV cabinet the TVs menus, remote and whatnot are identical.

I haven't noticed any picture blurring on the edges but then I have very basic cable and have not paid much attention to the sides of the screen while watching DVDs or playing games on my Wii.

Here is a strange problem I have been having lately with my 3093. Everytime I turn it on or off, it generates a large amount of static electricity. The static is moderately loud and will shock you if you are touching another metallic object while near the screen. Any ideas as to what could be causing this? I have only had the set a couple of months.
same thing happens on mine (same model). Hope its nothing to worry about...

Just though I'd give you guys an update on my warranty work. I have a 27" TXS2782, that has had 3 mainboards, as well as a new power supply. It has taken a total of 8 weeks, and my TV is still not working right. It is very hard to describe, but the picture pulsates. It actually gives me motion sickness to watch it, not to mention that the geometry is dreadful.

I was on the phone with Samsung for about 1.5 hours on Friday trying to get a replacement, but they are saying the the repair shop must request the replacement. The problem is, the repair shop told me to do it. So, anyway after being cut off twice, I decided to wait until Monday, and give Samsung a call when the TV repairman's shop is open. I'm going to request that Samsung give them a call to verify that the TV is not fixable, and arrange for me to have my TV replaced ASAP.

Does anyone know how Samsung handles replacement TVs? Will they arrange for me to stop into Best Buy, and pick up a retail set? Will they allow me to upgrade to a LCD? I am willing to pay the difference to get an LCD, but would be happy to just have an HDTV that works. I'm very leary of these Slimfits after reading sites like AVSFORUM, and my experience with my set.

As a side note, I paid $620 including tax for my TV in October of 2006. I could now purchase the same TV for $450 pre tax.

I talked to Samsung today, and they called the TV repairman while I was on the phone. He said that he would file the electronic paperwork today, and Samsung said that I should hear from them by Friday. I'm not holding my breath.

Week 9 here we come.

Hey everyone,
I don't know if this has been reported in here at all but I discovered after I got a second HDTV that my SlimFit 3082 was cutting off a quarter of an inch to a half of an inch on each edge. For example, the ABC HD bug is cut off in the D and whenever there is writing on the absolute bottom it is partially cutoff whereas it is readable on the other television. Is there any way to change it.

You can "fix" it, but you are likely to screw something else up in the process. Press Mute,1,8,2,Power with the TV off and you'll get the service menu. Under "deflection setting", you are looking for the entries "hamp" & "vamp". Adjusting those should fix you up. I'd be sure to write down all of those settings though, as they are different for each TV.

I picked up a TXS3082WHX a year ago and finally got around to calling in someone from Best Buy about the high pitched noise I've got and the cut off picture around the edges. Unfortunately I wasn't home when he came and he essentially blamed my 360 (Elite plugged in via HDMI) for the cut off picture problem (It's where I see it usually and was easiest to reproduce the problem) I'd like to grab a DVD of some sort to prove to him that it's not just the 360 and is the TV, but am not sure what to get.

Does Avia or DVE have geometry calibration stuff that would take up the whole screen and I'd be able to show this guy that it's the TV?

What would you guys compare the PQ of one of the new Slimfits to? Would you say it would compare to a high-end LCD like a Bravia or be better? How much better than a low-end LCD like a Vizio?

What would you guys compare the PQ of one of the new Slimfits to? Would you say it would compare to a high-end LCD like a Bravia or be better? How much better than a low-end LCD like a Vizio?

You're just trying to drive people insane, aren't you?

You're just trying to drive people insane, aren't you?

No I'm just trying to get the best value for my money.

I only read a few pages of this very long thread so forgive me if I missed any important or crucial post.

My friend has a Samsung S3082 (30 inch HDTV) and would like to hook up his computer to this TV via HDMI (DVI to HDMI). Has anybody here used this HDTV as a monitor for their computer and if so, is it good?

Since it's a HDTV I assume he would have to preset his resolution from his video card to 1280 x 720 right?

Thanks!

I only read a few pages of this very long thread so forgive me if I missed any important or crucial post.

My friend has a Samsung S3082 (30 inch HDTV) and would like to hook up his computer to this TV via HDMI (DVI to HDMI). Has anybody here used this HDTV as a monitor for their computer and if so, is it good?

Since it's a HDTV I assume he would have to preset his resolution from his video card to 1280 x 720 right?

Thanks!

720 is about as high as you can go on a CRT widescreen. It will work, but most people who try using CRt televisions as a PC monitor end up disappointed.

What would you guys compare the PQ of one of the new Slimfits to? Would you say it would compare to a high-end LCD like a Bravia or be better? How much better than a low-end LCD like a Vizio?

If you don't already know, a CRT (tube style tv) will, or should, produce a superior picture quality to any LCD or plasma out there...especially in Contrast (blacks, shadow detail, etc.). Plasma's and especially LCD's strive to have CRT contrast abilities. The one thing plasmas/LCD's have an easy time at is geometry, CRT's still struggle at this and the Slimfit especially seems to have a problem with this.

This advantage is probably why you see so many here buying and struggling with slimfit problems...because in theory, when everything is right, they would get a superior PQ, slimmer design (not as slim LCD/plasma of course).

Now, this brings me to a question of my own...of which I probably know the answer, but I'll try> Has anyone here given up on the slimfit and bought a small plasma/lcd that they were happy with PQ wise? Especially with contrast?

What I want/need seems to not be offered in this huge tv market>
> PQ, especially contrast/blacks/shadow detail in a small screen--26" to 30", preferably Not widescreen (but I'll do widescreen if everything else is met).
> Slim design
> low power consumption (tv would be on most of the day)
> Reliable!

The slimfit would basically fall into my requirements, yet it just has too many problems. LCD's have almost everything except PQ (especially contrast). There appears to be NO small plasma's...37" seems to be the smallest I could find + they suck a lot of power and make a lot of heat, although maybe a 27" size wouldn't...if it was made.

So, anyone out there that has the same requirements as myself been satisfied with a tv they purchased?

Fleaman

I finally got someone at Samsung to commit to replacing my 27" TV. They are sending a 30" model 3082, which should be here in about 10-15 more days. I hope it works, since I've got to buy a new TV stand to accommodate it.

Ok, I have a question: Has anybody who owns a Slimfit NOT had problems with it? This is pretty much my final opportunity to get a high-def CRT but after reading alot of stuff in this thread I can't help but think I'm gonna get some purple glow in the corner, or horrible geometry, or insane and unacceptable overscan. If I buy a TV the only thing I wanna do is calibrate it, I don't wanna mess with fixing what should be perfectly fine with the TV out of the box and I don't wanna return 10 TVs to get one that works. Should I just go LCD?

And to those of you who don't have problems with your TVs how do you like them? Does the lower horizontal resolution compared to flat-panels bother you? Is it worth trading that for what the CRT does well? I was prepared to sacrifice a little resolution for a Sony HD CRT but from what I hear these don't even come close to the PQ of a Sony CRT and I wonder if I'm better off sacrificing my black levels for resolution, which is kind of important since I plan to game on it.

Ok, I have a question: Has anybody who owns a Slimfit NOT had problems with it?

No, every single person who has ever owned one has had problems. That's right, it's the only piece of electronics ever made that has had a 100% failure rate. :rolleyes: Seriously, what is the point of a question like that?

This is pretty much my final opportunity to get a high-def CRT but after reading alot of stuff in this thread I can't help but think I'm gonna get some purple glow in the corner, or horrible geometry, or insane and unacceptable overscan. If I buy a TV the only thing I wanna do is calibrate it, I don't wanna mess with fixing what should be perfectly fine with the TV out of the box and I don't wanna return 10 TVs to get one that works. Should I just go LCD?

And to those of you who don't have problems with your TVs how do you like them? Does the lower horizontal resolution compared to flat-panels bother you? Is it worth trading that for what the CRT does well? I was prepared to sacrifice a little resolution for a Sony HD CRT but from what I hear these don't even come close to the PQ of a Sony CRT and I wonder if I'm better off sacrificing my black levels for resolution, which is kind of important since I plan to game on it.

WHO CARES WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK??? Test the sets on your own, and buy the one that best suits your needs! What is the point in asking what other people think you should buy?

WHO CARES WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK??? Test the sets on your own, and buy the one that best suits your needs! What is the point in asking what other people think you should buy?

In that case, WHAT is the POINT of this FORUM then :rolleyes:

And if you practice what you preach, why are you here?

:eek:

Fleaman

No, every single person who has ever owned one has had problems. That's right, it's the only piece of electronics ever made that has had a 100% failure rate. :rolleyes: Seriously, what is the point of a question like that?



WHO CARES WHAT OTHER PEOPLE THINK??? Test the sets on your own, and buy the one that best suits your needs! What is the point in asking what other people think you should buy?

Why the hell are you here? You consistently fail to be helpful and consistently act like an idiot. I asked the question because from what I see here these sets are very likely to have a big problem. And I care what other people think because it's impossible to tell how a TV performs by examining it in store. Also THAT'S THE POINT OF THIS FORUM!!!

but most people who try using CRt televisions as a PC monitor end up disappointed.


Why would someone be disappointed? Elaborate please.

Why would someone be disappointed? Elaborate please.

Folks who consider doing this expect resolution and clarity of a monitor, but on a bigscreen.But a CRT television, even HD, just wont reproduce the quality if a PC monitor.

In that case, WHAT is the POINT of this FORUM then :rolleyes:

And if you practice what you preach, why are you here?

:eek:

Fleaman

Practice what I preach???

Read all of BKChurch's posts, going back 6 months, asking people what to buy, then arguing their opinions, then asking again about another TV, then arguing... All of the questions he asks have been answered many times, and it's just become an excercise in annoyance for him.

Why would someone be disappointed? Elaborate please.

Because your CRT isn't really running at 1280x720 or 1920x1080. The only resolution that I was able to get to look decent was 720x480p, which really wasn't usable.

Because your CRT isn't really running at 1280x720 or 1920x1080. The only resolution that I was able to get to look decent was 720x480p, which really wasn't usable.


So this Samsung is not capable of showing at least 1280 x 720? What the? How is that possible? I thought I paid for a HDTV? :confused: