Overall, kind of a bummer of an episode (BonJovi/Elway hijinks notwithstanding). And what happened at the end of the show? They "imploded" the CGI hotel? That was outta nowhere. How is this show coming back next year?

one more season of Nikki? :)

one more season of Nikki? :)They made it appear as if there's a chance she wouldn't return. Vanessa Marcil is questionable to return, too. I ask again - how is this show coming back?

They made it appear as if there's a chance she wouldn't return. Vanessa Marcil is questionable to return, too. I ask again - how is this show coming back?

How about a dream sequence with one of the main characters "waking up" from a bad nightmare? (A la Bobby Ewing) Another possibility is them moving the show into a real hotel, so the horrible graphics don't have to be done anymore, they can use an actual hotel.

I agree that the finale of Las Vegas was disappointing. Probably my least favorite episode.
As far as how this show is going to come back, I don't really care -- as long as it does come back. Seriously, for all I care they can just pretend this whole episode didn't happen and just start over if they'd like. That'd be fine with me. I don't watch this for a compelling continuous "story arc" or for character development. It's all about the hot chicks. And sometimes the silly little weekly security story ain't bad either. As long as Nikki Cox and Vanessa Marcil are on this show and dressing up like high-priced call girls, I'm watching. Or even if they leave and are replaced by other hot chicks (depending, of course, on who and how hot they are). Everything else is just details that aren't important to me. It's just a fun show filled with eye candy. That's all I ask it to be. Marcil's character quitting? Cox's going off to Hawaii? Mike on tour with Glady's Knight? Montecito imploded? Handle this any way you want, Las Vegas. I don't care. Just keep up the mindless eye candy good times, please.

This was a strange show. Between the unusual plot turns and the arena football commercial sequences (Elway, Bon Jovi) I wasn't sure what I was watcing half the time. I also have to say that after recently watching CSI, Cold Case, Without a Trace (CBS), and Desparate Housewives and Grey's Anatomy (ABC), that the NBC HD pq is the worst of the major networks that I get OTA (I think FOX may be better, but haven't seen any recent shows to prove it). I don't know if this is just LV, or is all NBC (don't watch much NBC).

I liked the episode. It was different, but in a good way. The different plot twists are what keeps the show interesting and it gives you something to look for to next season. I for one am glad that they blew up the CGI hotel. It was hideous representation of an hotel. :)

I liked the episode. It was different, but in a good way. The different plot twists are what keeps the show interesting and it gives you something to look for to next season.When I called it a "bummer of an episode," I meant that the characters all experienced some depressing events. It was indeed an interesting show, but if Nikki and Vanessa don't come back, I'm out for next season.

I agree that the PQ of this show is, at least occasionally, pretty poor. I think it's exacerbated by the fast pans and in scenes where the fake hotel is featured prominently. NBC was tagged as the "worst HD" network in a poll here earlier this year, but some series' ("The Office" comes to mind) have been lauded for superior picture.

When I called it a "bummer of an episode," I meant that the characters all experienced some depressing events. It was indeed an interesting show, but if Nikki and Vanessa don't come back, I'm out for next season.

Ok, I see what you meant by bummer. In that sense, yes the episode was bummer. As long as they bring back Molly Simms that is good enough for me. I would love for Vanessa to come back as well.

Not only are all the chicks super hot -- even the extras -- but the characters played by Vanessa Marcil and Molly Simms are enthusiastic advocates of free love. Very enticing (even if unrealistic in this age of rampant STDs).

... I agree that the PQ of this show is, at least occasionally, pretty poor. I think it's exacerbated by the fast pans and in scenes where the fake hotel is featured prominently. NBC was tagged as the "worst HD" network in a poll here earlier this year, but some series' ("The Office" comes to mind) have been lauded for superior picture.The various Law & Order shows have the most consistently disappointing picture quality, although IMO there has been some slight improvement lately.

Not only are all the chicks super hot -- even the extras -- but the characters played by Vanessa Marcil and Molly Simms are enthusiastic advocates of free love. Very enticing (even if unrealistic in this age of rampant STDs).

I like their enthusiasm! :D

Not only are all the chicks super hot -- even the extras -- but the characters played by Vanessa Marcil and Molly Simms are enthusiastic advocates of free love.Well, in Vanessa's case, it's only "free" if you're a billionaire or have two weeks to live. ;)

Worst season finale ever.
People making live changing decisions at the drop of a hat because Dean Cain might buy the casino, even though he was one of only 4 bidders. They could have waited 1 day to find out who the real new owner would be.
I thought the 110 year old guy was going to be the secret 4th bidder who thought he was Howard Hughes - they threw that out there & never mentioned it again.

So, in the last scene where Ed Deline opens his door and get shot.
I wonder if he died, and Danny will take over?
Is Las Vegas coming back for another season?

NBC announced in late April that "Las Vegas" was being renewed for the 2006-2007 season.

Wow, good deal. Thanks fredfa
I thought information would be in your thread 'Hot Off The Press! The Latest Television News and Info'

Looking forward to next season

That means Ed's present to his daughter deflected the bullet and he lives!

I thought information would be in your thread 'Hot Off The Press! The Latest Television News and Info' It is, 4-28-2006, Post #10515.

Thanks for the plug, Dave! :)

NBC anounced Monday that Las Vegas would be scheduled at 9 PM ET/PT on Fridays next season.

That means Ed's present to his daughter deflected the bullet and he lives!
Good point, i have seen alot of these lately.

It is, 4-28-2006, Post #10515.

ha.. Yeah i thought it was in there.



fredfa, good deal.

Was Friday night's airing the season finale? I thought this coming up Fri. was the season finale. Am I wrong?

Last Friday was the finale.

That sucks. So how long do we have to wait for next season?

Official start dates will be announced later in the year.

But probably within a couple of weeks of Labor Day, alhtough individual shows may have staggered debut dates.

That means Ed's present to his daughter deflected the bullet and he lives!I said the same to my wife. Probably bought his daughter a Kevlar vest.

Guess they figured it worked for Battlestar Galactica (Adama gets a few rounds in the chest..... then "To be Continued") so it should work for LV too. Cool ending, but it seemed really rushed at the end. The pacing was very uneven.

And if anyone from LV production is reading this; how about some more of the hot Indian accounting girl, "before she explodes" pretty please???? :D :D

How about a dream sequence with one of the main characters "waking up" from a bad nightmare? (A la Bobby Ewing)

They could do what Sledge Hammer did in the 80s. At the end of the first season, the producers expected that they were being cancelled so they ended the season finale with Sledge accidentally detonating a nuclear bomb in Los Angeles. Then the show got surprisingly renewed. The second season began with a recap of the nuclear explosion, followed immediately by text on screen that said, "FIVE YEARS EARLIER". The show then picked up as if nothing had happened.

Guess they figured it worked for Battlestar Galactica (Adama gets a few rounds in the chest..... then "To be Continued") so it should work for LV too. Cool ending, but it seemed really rushed at the end. The pacing was very uneven.

And if anyone from LV production is reading this; how about some more of the hot Indian accounting girl, "before she explodes" pretty please???? :D :D

yeah that Indian girl is good stuff.. So is Penny Posin (Rachael Leigh Cook)

The Indian girls name is Sarasvati Kumar (Lakshmi Manchu)
http://www.bharatstars.com/files/41/thm_lakimanchu6.jpg
http://www.bharatstars.com//files/41/thm_lakimanchu5.jpg

yeah that Indian girl is good stuff..
The Indian girls name is Sarasvati Kumar (Lakshmi Manchu)
Thanks YoungC55!!
Man! I wish my accountant looked like her!!
Now thats "a friend with benefits" :D :D
Just more eye candy for LV
http://www.bharatstars.com/files/41/lakshmimanchu1.jpg

Las Vegas in HD on NBC.
I could create a new thread for the native Las Vegas topic. Or just use this one.

Looking forward to tonights season premier. In fredfa's 'Season Premier guide' I think he listed Las Vegas will be Friday Oct. 20. I think it got moved back until today (the 27th)
Wonder how all the women will be looking.

Cheers!

NBC has been futzing with the schedule, but it looks like the 2006/2007 season premere " Father of the Bride Redux" is on tonight at 9pm eastern. What happened last week?
As a matter of fact, TitanTV still shows "Las Vegas: Died in Plain Sight (New)" as tonight's episode??

As a matter of fact, TitanTV still shows "Las Vegas: Died in Plain Sight (New)" as tonight's episode??

Hopefully that is an error. Surely they could not skip the opening season episode as per NBC's schedule mishap.

tv.com says 'Father Of The Bride Redux' will be on tonight (10/27)
http://www.tv.com/las-vegas/father-of-the-bride-redux/episode/830258/summary.html?tag=ep_list;title;0
and its the 1st episode of season 4.

Last week, was some reality show I think.

I'm pretty sure the episode last night, for the season premere was 'Father Of The Bride Redux'' Good episode. Its nice to see all the women back.
HDTV & DD 5.1 here in Tx.

Did you catch the name on the Ed Deline's pasport at the end? Alan Traherne, that was the name of Caan's character in El Dorado with John Wayne and I think Robert Mitchum.

JG

All I can say is last night's episode was all over the place and VERY hard to follow. I was really tired when I watched it, so that might have something to do with it, but I think it tried to do to much in to little amount of time.

We knew the bullet was going to hit and stop on the wedding gift. But the whole head bleeding trip to the hospital for drama was just terrible.

And the way they wrote out the Indian chick? Common. They wrote her out in two lines. :rolleyes:

Bad episode in my opinion.

Did you catch the name on the Ed Deline's pasport at the end? Alan Traherne, that was the name of Caan's character in El Dorado with John Wayne and I think Robert Mitchum.

JG

Good catch. I noticed that too. And Mitchum was in El Dorado with the Duke.

Topic title edited.

All I can say is last night's episode was all over the place and VERY hard to follow. I was really tired when I watched it, so that might have something to do with it, but I think it tried to do to much in to little amount of time.

We knew the bullet was going to hit and stop on the wedding gift. But the whole head bleeding trip to the hospital for drama was just terrible.

And the way they wrote out the Indian chick? Common. They wrote her out in two lines. :rolleyes:

Bad episode in my opinion.


Agreed, ALL OVER TH PLACE, but it was the season opener. Remember how many Soprano openers were declared duds ? Hopefully things will settle down and we'll have our usual fun Las Vegas, but it looks to me like Ed's gonna be on lam for a while looking to finish his unfinished business.

The thing that stood out to me in this ep was how during Jewel's performances all her audio
(vocals) was coming from the rears, and pretty muted at that, even when the camera was full on her. Maybe this was a local issue? KGWDT Portland via Comcast.

Funny, I liked that there was so much going on - I didn't think it was all over the place. It kept my interest.

I guess I missed the toss of lines where the Indian woman left, what were they?

Something about her getting scared and leaving on a plane, I think.

Jewel got WAY to much air time. Three songs? Shameless promotion for her new album. My sister, who is in the music business, couldn't believe they were playing three of her new songs within minutes of each other. I'd say a quarter of the show was devoted to Jewel on stage and the rest was just all over the place. To many locations, to many cell phone converstations, laptop webcam conversations, etc.

Nikki Cox with her ginormous tong tongs needs to keep those things covered up. Age and make-up have not treated her well. Her characters resentment for "being the last to know" is just retarded. At least in the previews for the next episode, somebody tells her to "GET OVER IT!" They stole the words right out of my mouth.

Just really bad IMHO. I love this show, but this single episode has almost made me want to stop watching.

For two very obvious reasons, I'm pretty sure that the NBC censors don't view the HD version of a show. And I'm very very glad for that. :) WHOA!

For two very obvious reasons, I'm pretty sure that the NBC censors don't view the HD version of a show. And I'm very very glad for that. :) WHOA!
Yes, it was very distracting. I missed all the dialogue between Sam and the real estate babe!
Someone needs to introduce these girls to the Victoria's Secret line of undergarments :D :D :D

I thought last night episode was pretty good.but I was sure they were going to carry on the Ed "agency" plot line for more than just an episode.

Nikki Cox's lips need to be toned down, they are way to glossy ! Lips are to big and tits are to big ( did I just say that ). Maybe she can share some of hers with Dalinda.

It took me until last night, to realize that Ed's wife was Cheryl Ladd. Call me clueless, she always looked familiar but I just didn't know.

It also seemed like there were more that the usual amount of commercials. I'm sure I'm wrong, it just seemed that way.

Someone needs to introduce these girls to the Victoria's Secret line of undergarments :D :D :D
haha.

I thought last night episode was pretty good.but I was sure they were going to carry on the Ed "agency" plot line for more than just an episode.

Yeah, the Agency has been apart of this show for a while I think.

Good episode indeed. HD and DD 5.1 here in TX

Last night's episode was great. The real estate babe was Kelly Hu right?

This episode had some of the best PQ I have seen on this show, the Hawaii shots were drool... And the ladies looked great too. I had some minor blocking but nothing really bad.

KING-DT, via comcast, seattle

I wonder if they are planning to write Nikki Cox off the show and replace her with Kelly Hu? Otherwise, I can't see the point of either Mary's whining or the Hawaii storyline.

Amazing how good Kelly Hu still looks at age 38.

I wonder if they are planning to write Nikki Cox off the show and replace her with Kelly Hu? Otherwise, I can't see the point of either Mary's whining or the Hawaii storyline.

That would be awesome. This episode sucked again. I really like this show normally, but it has gotten really bad.

Amazing how good Kelly Hu still looks at age 38.Vanessa Marcil is also 38...

2-hour new episode tonight!
Too bad The Polar Express starts at 8PM, can't record both in HD at the same time. Guess I'll record Polar Express on the HTPC, watch Vegas via cable box and record it on the next rerun.

I'm watching tonight's Las Vegas and the audio is way out of sync. The dialog comes a few seconds after the video. It's very hard to watch-I'm wondering if it's the local Reno station(KRNV-DT) or the network.

Don't forget the immense amount of commercials.

I really want D* to come out with a better DVR..

I'm watching last weeks episodes on my DVR right now. It's coming in DD2.0. Was it broadcast in DD5.1? I'm wondering if my local affiliate screwed something up or if it was national.

The last several episodes of LV have been in DD2.0 in my area (Denver - via OTA) also. DD5.1 from TNT-HD though.

I haven't finished watching the second hour yet, but at the tail end of the first hour (here in Chicago, where I'm spending the weekend) they lost the HD feed. Reverted to SD version (letterboxed, with NBC.COM logo instead of the NBC HD logo).

Might have been a problem unique to the Chicago area, or nationwide. I'll know more when I get back to LA tomorrow night and have a chance to watch the second hour on my LA DVR.

VERY VERY ANNOYING! I though KNBC-DT was the only station that pulled these kinds of screwups, but apparently I'm wrong. Apparently it happens nationally.


P.S. - since I never watch SD NBC, I was not aware of just how obnoxious the NBC.COM logo is... 100% multicolor and 100% opaque! Wow, is that distracting. At least the NBC HD logo is not 100% opaque and has no color. Both logos are truly offensive and ultra-large... well beyond the limits of reasonablness, though the NBC.COM version takes the cake for maximum distraction to the viewer.

VERY VERY ANNOYING! I though KNBC-DT was the only station that pulled these kinds of screwups, but apparently I'm wrong. Apparently it happens nationally.


WRC, the NBC affiliate in DC is not immune to these issues. They showed the first segment before the first commercial in SD before switching to HD for the rest of the show.

The last several episodes of LV have been in DD2.0 in my area (Denver - via OTA) also. DD5.1 from TNT-HD though.

Hmm, thanks. It switched to DD5.1 right around the beginning of the second hour.

I think this show has run its course. I heard a radio interview here in Houston with Josh Duhamel and he pretty much admitted that Las Vegas has been getting by on the skin of its teeth. He said the only reason he thinks its still on is because NBC doesn't have anything better to put in its time slot. He also said the cast and crew are okay with that fact.

Personally, even with the two hour episode, I think this season is lackluster at best. Josh Duhamel said it was originally supposed to be a two parter, but "when they edited it together it felt better has a single episode." Then the radio host said, "Or they're trying to get the season over quicker...Ha ha haa..." I think the radio host was right.

I can't find the link, but I read a news article that LV is shortening the season by 4 episodes...

Well, let's hope that the writers manage to find a reason for Mike and Danny to wander around the Bella Petto pool area a couple more times before the final wrap-up.

I was watching 1 vs. 100 when they had the entire cast of Las Vegas on. All of the cast was eliminated within the first two questions. Mike Cannon, the computer wizard, missed the question of, "Which is a larger amount of storage space? A) Gigabyte B)Megabyte C) Kilobyte" I was stunned.

Mike Cannon, the computer wizard, missed the question of, "Which is a larger amount of storage space? A) Gigabyte B)Megabyte C) Kilobyte" I was stunned.What are you talking about?

Mike Cannon, the computer wizard, wasn't on that show. Instead, it was James Lesure, the actor. I don't see why he's any more likely to know that answer than Molly Sims, the actress.

Well I think last night's show was the best looking and best sounding "Las Vegas" of the season.

The HD picture quality last night was absolutely sparkling! The fantastic sharpness and clarity of 1080i, with beautiful bright and vivid colors brought out by perfect lighting (not dark like "Las Vegas") and makeup. Everyone looked great... Delinda, Mary, Sam, I mean it REALLY looked special last night. And Molly Sims has genuinely turned into a very appealing actress! She's perfect in her role.

Add to that the adult interplay and banter of the wonderful cast (boy, Sam was really a wiseass and then emotional last night... FABULOUS! I love her!), and this show has gotten to be my favorite "look forward to" show on TV each week.

And, oddly, it appears NBC has turned up the volume about 5db (at least that's what my EQ shows)! I do believe the level was really enjoyable last night... not too low as usual on NBC-DT, and not too loud (e.g. SHOHD, CBSHD, etc.) At their new level (let's hope this was not an anomaly but the result of someone making a conscious decision that the old level was simply much too low) everything sounded great... including the Elvis music!

Anyway, all in all a wonderful Christmas show, that looked and sounded simply gorgeous. Very warm and holiday like, and yet lots of very entertaining sarcasm and joking around from the whole cast. Really really enjoyable show.

Hats off to the producers and writers, and NBC for turning up the volume a bit.

Well I think last night's show was the best looking and best sounding "Las Vegas" of the season.

The HD picture quality last night was absolutely sparkling! The fantastic sharpness and clarity of 1080i, with beautiful bright and vivid colors brought out by perfect lighting (not dark like "Las Vegas") and makeup. Everyone looked great... Delinda, Mary, Sam, I mean it REALLY looked special last night. And Molly Sims has genuinely turned into a very appealing actress! She's perfect in her role.

Anyway, all in all a wonderful Christmas show, that looked and sounded simply gorgeous. Very warm and holiday like, and yet lots of very entertaining sarcasm and joking around from the whole cast. Really really enjoyable show.

Agreed!
The production values on this show are really quite high. Nice use of vivid colors. The night scenes of the town were especially gorgeous, almost 3-D like. All the girls looked great... as usual! The whole "Secret Santa" thing was pretty funny... especially with Ed playing Santa.
Loved the “Greetings from Vegas” postcard shot at the end.

Agreed!
The production values on this show are really quite high. Nice use of vivid colors. The night scenes of the town were especially gorgeous, almost 3-D like. All the girls looked great... as usual! The whole "Secret Santa" thing was pretty funny... especially with Ed playing Santa.
Loved the “Greetings from Vegas” postcard shot at the end.Yeah, but I thought it was a cop-out on the part of the producers to force viewers to visit the NBC web site to see the contents of the gift Danny gave Mary.

Yeah, but I thought it was a cop-out on the part of the producers to force viewers to visit the NBC web site to see the contents of the gift Danny gave Mary.No real surprise in that gift. Hardly unexpected.

And you're right, they certainly could have (and should have) added that 25 seconds to the show. I think it was not a cop-out by them not including it... it was obnoxious.

Agreed! The production values on this show are really quite high.This is a surprising and pleasing change from seasons past.

Early on this show was getting super-compressed, and with all of its high-speed motion shots (e.g. POV camera zooms through the casino as if it were flying to the next location, people walking fast and sideways past the camera, etc.) there was an extraordinary amount of distracting and annoying pixelating as the MPEG encoders could not keep up with all of the lights blinking and motion all over the whole screen.

But this year, they have REALLY improved the picture quality. I mean it is FABULOUS! Not only terrific use of brilliant colors and beautiful people, but everything is well lit (both indoors and outside) making the whole show look gorgeous.

And NO PIXELATING! They have plenty of bitrate! Personally, I think they've got new encoders... it looks so much better.

Also, they clearly have a new hair/makeup staff working on Ed. He no longer looks like he just got out of the coffin.

Nice to have one of the shows I like to watch not in reruns for Christmas.

Rick R

Nice to have one of the shows I like to watch not in reruns for Christmas.

Rick R

Well up until now, 12/22 is a repeat of the Christmas episode, and I think 12/29 is a rerun too, but I'm not positive.

Anyone else have picture problems on tonight's episode? I had a yellow vertical line near the left edge of the screen, and lots of blue and yellow ghosting...as if I was watching a bad analog signal with rabbit ears. The local commercials were not affected by this, only the show and the network commercials. I didn't record anything else on NBC tonight so I can't really compare. I did see a few seconds of Conan live and didn't notice anything.

Yes it really sucked.... Other HD channels were perfect.

Nope, picture was perfect in HD here... Cablevision of Long Island.
I did record it on my HTPC, and just double checked... Sam looked perfect as usual :D :D

NBC Renews “Las Vegas”
NBC News Release February 27, 2007

BURBANK, Calif.– NBC has renewed its veteran drama series "Las Vegas" (Fridays, 9-10 p.m. ET) for a fifth high-rolling season through 2007-08, it was announced today by Kevin Reilly, President, NBC Entertainment.

"The cast and producers have consistently given us what we want from 'Las Vegas' – pure entertainment – and we're looking forward to another fun ride next season with the show," said Reilly.

This season, "Las Vegas" is averaging a 2.8 rating, 8 share in adults 18-49 and 9.0 million viewers, to rank #1 in the Friday 9-10 p.m. (ET) hour in 18-49. "Las Vegas" has generated an 8 percent gain versus NBC's year-ago non-sports rating in the time period.

From Gary Scott Thompson -- the writer of the hit film "The Fast and the Furious" -- "Las Vegas" is a fast-paced, sexy drama that follows an elite Las Vegas surveillance team charged with maintaining the security of one of "Sin City's" largest resorts and casinos.

"Las Vegas," currently in it's fourth season, stars James Caan ("The Godfather," "Misery"), Josh Duhamel ("All My Children"), Molly Sims (MTV's "Starsky and Hutch"), Nikki Cox ("Nikki"), James Lesure ("For Your Love") and Vanessa Marcil ("Beverly Hills, 90210").

I ju st started watching this show again and I find it a good hour of entertainment glad it is coming back again

NBC reups 'Vegas'
Actors Caan, Cox leave show
By Josef Adalian Variety February 27, 2007

NBC isn't leaving "Las Vegas" any time soon -- but James Caan and Nikki Cox are.

Peacock has picked up the slots-and-sex sudser for a fifth season. But shortly after the net's announcement, word leaked out that Caan and Cox -- two original denizens of "Vegas" -- have opted not to return.

Caan, who's appeared in 76 features and snagged an Oscar nom, said he wanted to get back to films.

"I've had a wonderful four years, worked with great people and made friends for life working on 'Las Vegas,'" he said. "But I'm eager to return to where my heart is, which is film, and due to the show's schedule, I've missed some great opportunities to do that."

Season-to-date, "Las Vegas" is averaging a 2.8/8 in adults 18-49 and about 9 million viewers. Nonetheless, skein regularly wins its 9 p.m. timeslot opposite weak competish.

Because NBC has an ownership stake in "Las Vegas," company has an incentive to ensure that the skein amasses the 100 episodes usually preferred for syndication. Only 17 episodes are being produced this season; the Peacock didn't say how may it will produce next season.

http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=print_story&articleid=VR1117960256&categoryid=14

Eh. Cox didn't add anything to the show anymore, but I'm sure Caan's lack of presence will hurt the show. Frankly, I took Las Vegas off of my record list on my DVR because it was beginning to be a waste of my time. It has turned into nothing more than talent product placement (with the concerts and cameos) and the storyline has gotten so cheesy, it just wasn't funny or entertaining anymore. Count me out for season 5.

i forgot that this was still on

It's a fun diversion and the eye candy is great.
Too bad "Big Ed" is leaving because he IS the show. I hope they don't kill him off like Casey and Monica, because at least it would leave the door open for him to cameo from time to time next season. Mary leaving is no big deal...
I can't see Sam running the place, and "Starsky & Hutch" couldn't do it... so I guess they'll be a new sheriff in town soon. Seems like a good idea for the now standard season ending cliffhanger :D :D

It's a fun diversion and the eye candy is great.
Too bad "Big Ed" is leaving because he IS the show. I hope they don't kill him off like Casey and Monica, because at least it would leave the door open for him to cameo from time to time next season. Mary leaving is no big deal...
I can't see Sam running the place, and "Starsky & Hutch" couldn't do it... so I guess they'll be a new sheriff in town soon. Seems like a good idea for the now standard season ending cliffhanger :D :D

I agree, great candy. Who is Ed? :)

James Caan is the only reason I was watching the show. He's cool in everything he does. Guess I'll drop it from my DVR after next Friday.

Can't stand Nikki Cox....too whiny and boring.

But without Ed, I don't know how the show will do. Knew this was coming with his wife constantly complaining about him retiring.

Maybe James Caan exit from the show is health related, because if you look at him- he's got really bad posture (leans forward when standing up) and actually grimaces when sitting or bending down....classic signs of a bad back.
Anyone with a DVR, look at the last episode (where Sam now owns the casino) and she's sitting at Ed's desk in his office... he comes in and forces her out of his chair- now look at his face as he sits down very slowly into the chair, he grimaces- he's in pain... and people with very sore backs use two hands to brace themselves for support on the table/desk prior to sitting down, just like Big Ed does in that scene. Look at his overall posture and how he walks, very stiff just above the waist. I've had a occasional sore back over the last ten years or so due to disc problems, and I recognize "the look" quite easily in others with the same affliction.
Either James Caan is a really, really, really great actor who's method acting back problems to perfection, or he's a regular guy trying to cover up his bad back...

Well, I guess we'll find out if he gets back to movies.

SEASON FINALE tonight... 3/9/2007
Maybe last chance to see Big Ed! :(

Tonight's the season finale? It's only March! I'm 3 shows behind (saved on my DVR) and have been enjoying the episodes i've seen so far. Not too much thinking needed while watching... sometimes that's a good thing.

SEASON FINALE tonight... 3/9/2007
Maybe last chance to see Big Ed! :(

I can't believe this is it for the year and it is only March what is up with that.

I can't believe this is it for the year and it is only March what is up with that.
Yeah, short season this year... only 17 episodes.
NBC has renewed Vegas for next year, but no mention of how many episodes they bought.

The announced reason for James Caan leaving the show isn't due to health reasons but because he wants to concentrate on movies again.

Well, that was certainly a classic cliffhanger season finale!
Could they have possible left any more loose ends? :eek:

Joxer... I only mention health reasons because honestly... I can't imagine James Caan has that many offers for film work at his age that his participation in 17 episodes of Vegas this season is stifling his career. There are only a handful of leading roles for older male actors every year, and they always seem to go to the same few guys.. Jack Nicholson, Gene Hackman and Dustin Hoffman. The last real leading roll James Caan had in a feature film was in 1993's "The Program" and 1992's "Honeymoon in Vegas" fifteen years ago...
Often, (even young) actors have mentioned that weekly TV series are a real day to day physical grind. I think his departure from Vegas isn't only due to his desire to do feature films again... but that is pure speculation on my part. And, IMHO- we've been lucky to have him in the series as long as we did.
Big Ed will be missed on the strip for sure!

So we saw Mary's Dad get shot, but it was never actually very clear (perhaps purposely so) whether it was Mary, Danny or Ed who pulled the trigger…

(I vote for Mary, since I think Danny would have gone for a center of mass shot and Ed of course would go for the head shot. :D)

So we saw Mary's Dad get shot, but it was never actually very clear (perhaps purposely so) whether it was Mary, Danny or Ed who pulled the trigger…

(I vote for Mary, since I think Danny would have gone for a center of mass shot and Ed of course would go for the head shot. :D)

We know that Mary and Ed aren't coming back next season, but looking at this cliffhanger, they should at least be back for the first episode.

Danny didn't shoot, I think it was Ed.

Looks like Ed lowered his standards and was driving a BMW rather than the usual Aston Martin. ;)

We know that Mary and Ed aren't coming back next season, but looking at this cliffhanger, they should at least be back for the first episode. .

I'd bet that the "first" episode is already in the can (so to speak.)

I'd bet that the "first" episode is already in the can (so to speak.)
I told my wife the samething Fri night.

We know that Mary and Ed aren't coming back next season, but looking at this cliffhanger, they should at least be back for the first episode.

Danny didn't shoot, I think it was Ed.

I actually think 3 shots were fired, I erased it from my DVR, can anyone confirm how many shots were fired.

Looks like Ed lowered his standards and was driving a BMW rather than the usual Aston Martin. ;)

Yeah, I can't see Ed slumming in a BMW. Maybe it's a loaner from the shop.

I actually think 3 shots were fired, I erased it from my DVR, can anyone confirm how many shots were fired.

I've erased it, but I also heard 3 shots. My assumption was that they each fired, and we get some silly story where they can't figure out which bullet was fatal, and it provides some kind of "cover." Far fetched, but that's my guess.

There were definitely 3 shots fired. Who did the shooting is all part of the cliffhanger. I think they all fired.

Did anyone else besides me find the thermal imaging of Sam in the steamer trunk a bit far fetched? You could even see the mole on her cheek!

Looks like the Montecito speedboat is picking up speed to jump that shark any time now.... :D

Poker face: Selleck eyes NBC's 'Vegas'
By Nellie Andreeva The Hollywood Reporter April 11, 2007

Emmy winner Tom Selleck is in discussions to join NBC's "Las Vegas" as the fast-paced drama's new leading man.

He would play the smart, powerful, fun-loving new owner of Montecito Resort & Casino, a new character designed to fill the void left by the recent departure of the show's star James Caan.

Caan, who played the head of the casino's surveillance team for four years, recently left the series to return to features (HR 2/28).

"Vegas," from NBC Universal TV Studio and DreamWorks TV, was picked up for a fifth season in February and is slated to begin production on its order soon. The show also is looking to add a beautiful female concierge in the wake of the departure of co-star Nikki Cox.

Josh Duhamel also stars on "Vegas," with Molly Sims, James Lesure and Vanessa Marcil rounding out the cast.

Selleck's starring role on "Vegas" would mark his first regular gig on a drama series since his Emmy-winning turn on "Magnum, P.I."

He followed that up with memorable recurring roles on NBC's hit comedy "Friends" and, most recently, on ABC's dramedy "Boston Legal."

Selleck also has had success with the "Stone Cold" series of original movies for CBS, with the latest installment, "Jesse Stone: Sea Change," slated to premiere in May. He also is a member of the voice cast of the Walt Disney Co.'s animated feature "Meet the Robinsons."

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3ib191236ae685199ec7ec5002e57b99e7

Poker face: Selleck eyes NBC's 'Vegas'
By Nellie Andreeva The Hollywood Reporter April 11, 2007

Emmy winner Tom Selleck is in discussions to join NBC's "Las Vegas" as the fast-paced drama's new leading man.
Hmmmmm... wonder if he's still got the dogs? :D

I was upset about James Caan leaving but Selleck would be a great replacement. As far as Nikki Cox leaving I won't miss her as her role was very forgetable.

Rick R

Looks like Ed lowered his standards and was driving a BMW rather than the usual Aston Martin. ;)
Yeah.

fredfa,
Great information. Thank you.

Tom Selleck Replaces James Caan on “Las Vegas”
(But Caan Returns for the New Season Premiere) Episode
NBC News Release

BURBANK - May 9, 2007 - NBC announced that Emmy Award winning Tom Selleck ("Magnum, P.I.") will return to television series drama when he joins the starring cast of NBC's "Las Vegas" (Fridays, 9-10 p.m. ET) next season as a charismatic, self-made billionaire who is surrounded by an air of mystery when he becomes the new owner of the Montecito Resort & Casino.

In addition, James Caan, who has starred as Ed Deline, the Montecito's surveillance head for four years, will return to the series for one episode in its 2007-08 season premiere after announcing earlier this year that he would be departing the series after its 2007 season finale.

"We have been honored and blessed to have had an actor of the magnitude of James Caan for the last four years and we've come up with four aces as legendary icon Tom Selleck has agreed to join the cast," said executive producer Gary Scott Thompson.

The popular Selleck established himself as a major television star with his performance as affable private detective Thomas Magnum on the hit drama "Magnum, P.I." from 1980-88. He eventually served as an executive producer of the series. At the same time, he began a successful feature-film career as he starred in "3 Men and a Baby," "Runaway," "High Road to China," "Lassiter," "Her Alibi," "Mr. Baseball," "Christopher Columbus: The Discovery," "In & Out," "Quigley Down Under," "The Love Letter" and the recent hit "Meet the Robinsons," in which he voiced the character of Cornelius.

Selleck also has developed an impressive acting resume in the television movie genre including his popular "Jesse Stone" movies. Selleck will next be seen in the fourth installment of this franchise called "Jesse Stone: Sea Change," on May 22nd. Television movies have also allowed him to explore his interest in Westerns, with roles in the similar-themed "Monte Walsh," "Crossfire Trail," "Last Stand at Saber River," "The Sacketts" and "The Shadow Riders," among others. Selleck earned strong reviews for his performance as General Dwight Eisenhower in the television movie "Ike: Countdown to D-Day," and starred in others, including "Twelve Mile Road."

In addition, Selleck was a recurring regular on "Friends" as Monica's (Courtney Cox Arquette) boyfriend, in which he garnered an Emmy nomination, and recently guest-starred in four episodes of "Boston Legal" as Candice Bergen's ex-husband.

Caan is best known for his Oscar-nominated portrayal of Sonny Corleone in the classic "The Godfather." His other feature-film credits include "For the Boys" (alongside Oscar-nominated Bette Midler), "A Bridge Too Far," "Thief," "Rollerball," "The Way of the Gun," "The Gambler," "The Program," "Alien Nation," "Honeymoon in Vegas" (opposite Nicolas Cage), "Elf" (opposite Will Ferrell), Lars Von Trier's "Dogville" (opposite Nicole Kidman) and the critically acclaimed "Misery" (opposite Kathy Bates). Caan's television credits include the movies "A Glimpse of Hell," "Poodle Springs," "Lathe of Heaven" and "The Warden of Red Rock."

Caan also garnered an Emmy Award nomination for his role as football star Brian Piccolo in the original movie version of "Brian's Song." He received a Best Actor Award from the Sebastian Film Festival for his performance in Francis Ford Coppola's "The Rain People," as well as the Actor of the Year honor from the National Associate of Theater Owners for "The Gambler."

NBC renewed "Las Vegas" (Fridays, 9-10 p.m. ET) for a fifth high-rolling season in February. From Thompson -- the writer of the hit film "The Fast and the Furious" -- "Las Vegas" is a fast-paced, sexy drama that follows an elite Las Vegas surveillance team charged with maintaining the security of one of "Sin City's" largest resorts and casinos.

"Las Vegas," recently concluded its fourth season. The fifth season stars Tom Selleck ("Magnum, P.I.), Josh Duhamel ("All My Children"), Molly Sims (MTV's "Starsky and Hutch"), James Lesure ("For Your Love") and Vanessa Marcil ("Beverly Hills, 90210" and GH ) .

This is great news. I hope they let him drive a red Ferrari in place of Ed's Aston Martin. I think Selleck will be a fun addition to their crazy plot lines.

Duane

Tom Selleck ("Magnum, P.I.") will return to television series drama when he joins the starring cast of NBC's "Las Vegas" next season as a charismatic, self-made billionaire who is surrounded by an air of mystery when he becomes the new owner of the Montecito Resort & Casino
Hmmm... kind of sound very much like one of the other former owners (Casey). Hope we get to see Magnum more than the one or two shows/season we got to see Casey.

I hope they let him drive a red Ferrari in place of Ed's Aston Martin.
Duane
That would be a class move and a tribute to the old Magnum series and it's fans! :D :D

Just a reminder that the first episode of the 2007/8 season premiers tonight... and it's 2 hrs long to boot! Actually, looks like two one hr episodes just back to back... whatever- I'm just glad it's back.

Just a reminder that the first episode of the 2007/8 season premiers tonight... and it's 2 hrs long to boot! Actually, looks like two one hr episodes just back to back... whatever- I'm just glad it's back.

Sweet. Thanks for the reminder.

I love to see 'Las Vegas women' in HD :p

Thanks for the heads up. I think I only set my DVR for one hour so I think I would have missed part of it. I did notice in this weeks credits it lists James Caan and next week in the credits it lists Tom Sellack.

Rick R

Let's not forget that Nikki Cox is gone. As is James Caan.

The contrast between the first hour and the second hour was amazing. The first hour moved quickly, the second hour was slow as molasses.

James Caan made this show, and Tom Selleck is going to have a hard time filling his shoes. It's almost like the Monica storyline all over again.

I think the security girl would make a fine replacement for Nikki Cox, if they were to flesh her out a bit more. Molly Sims is going to be in pregnancy padding, so they're going to need someone to liven up this show.

Yeah-it was like they spliced together 2 distinct episodes and i was waiting for the end credits after the first hour. Not bad, I think Tom Selleck will do fine replacing James C.
They do need to replace the Niki twins for some eyecandy.

Glad to see Las Vegas is back.

Plus TNT has been showing LV at 7AM every day for a little while.
Too bad I have to miss it due to work.

I never really cared for this show other than the HD women!!! But I must admit I watched alot of it last night and I do like Magnum being in it alot more than Caan (nothing personal against Caan) as I think Magnum has much better charisma (sp?) in than Caan in a role like this...

I liked it.

I always loved Sam, Vanessa Marcil.
I thought it was funny how she was speaking very fast, and also going on about off topic stuff to the therapist.

I observed that the whole feel of the show is different with Tom Selleck.

Rick R

The contrast between the first hour and the second hour was amazing. The first hour moved quickly, the second hour was slow as molasses.Noticed that the 2nd part was directed by Timothy Busfield. But I think it really was the script for the 2nd episode which was a bit lacking.


James Caan made this show, and Tom Selleck is going to have a hard time filling his shoes. It's almost like the Monica storyline all over again.Well, I thought he was pretty good. Certainly much more macho and Magnum-appropriate than his character was when he cameo'd on "Friends" as Monica's suitor.

In fact, I think his larger-than-most physical size adds to his character. Sort of like the new John Larroquette character on "Boston Legal", who is comedic simply because he has to look down at Denny Crane who has to look up at John.


I think the security girl would make a fine replacement for Nikki Cox, if they were to flesh her out a bit more. Molly Sims is going to be in pregnancy padding, so they're going to need someone to liven up this show.I wouldn't mind if they bring back the Indian girl from Accounting and give her more to do onscreen.

Noticed that the 2nd part was directed by Timothy Busfield.And the first part was directed by Robert Duncan McNeill (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000536/)

Perhaps a new record for commercials in a 2 hour program. This show will only be watched on the DVR from now on. Pretty good PQ though.

This show switched from film to HD cameras this season so keep your eyes out for any PQ differences. It's the only drama on network television shot on HD video at the moment. Unfortunately all the network dramas that have done this have all been canceled.

...
They do need to replace the Niki twins for some eyecandy....
I never really cared for this show other than the HD women!!! ... I think Magnum has much better charisma ...

Speaking of charisma, I think Ms. Carpenter would be a good asset to the show.

She would be a great replacement for Ms. Cox.

Perhaps a new record for commercials in a 2 hour program.

I thought I was imagining that, glad you mentioned it. I DVR'd it- but erased it yesterday. It seemed at the time that there were very few commercials in the first hour, and the second hour made up the difference. Can't be sure without re-watching it.

And the first part was directed by Robert Duncan McNeill (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000536/)
Robert Duncan McNeill has been very busy as a director since playing Tom Paris on ST Voyager, matter of fact he's directed an episode of "Chuck" too: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000536/

...and the Samantha Who? pilot...

Let's not forget that Nikki Cox is gone. As is James Caan.

In the context of its a small world, I just discovered that Nikki Cox's Dad sits in the office across from me. We just had an interesting conversation about the changes to Las Vegas.

Rick R

In the context of its a small world, I just discovered that Nikki Cox's Dad sits in the office across from me. We just had an interesting conversation about the changes to Las Vegas.So what's next for Nikki post-Vegas?

I just discovered that Nikki Cox's Dad sits in the office across from me. We just had an interesting conversation about the changes to Las Vegas.
Rick R

Any insider scoop on the true reason she was dropped you can share?

If recall correctly Nikki being touted and the next Lucile Ball when her first sitcom came out years ago, she was supposed to be great at physical comedy. Not much chance to see that on Las Vegas...

Ummm? I think that was Jenna Elfman that was touted as the next L.B.

So what's next for Nikki post-Vegas?

Well he mentioned that Nikki had been in TV since she was 8 years old so presumably it will be whatever the next opportunity presents.

Rick R

I got the impression that they wanted to change the story line a little and that meant that Caan and Nikki were cut out. He did say that James Caan and Nikki were asked if they would do appearances on 6 episodes this year and Nikki said no and James Cann said one only.

Rick R

I remember Nikki Cox had a small part as a child actor in the movie "Terminator 2: Judgement Day" also a large guest role in an episode of Star Trek: Next Generation.

I got the impression that they wanted to change the story line a little and that meant that Caan and Nikki were cut out. He did say that James Caan and Nikki were asked if they would do appearances on 6 episodes this year and Nikki said no and James Cann said one only.
Rick R
The whole departure scenario with Caan and Cox is just strange.
I'm sure Caan was the highest paid actor on the show and with the poor ratings- on the surface it looks like a pure cost cutting move. That being said- they go and hire Tom Selleck.. wonder if he's working on the cheap? I have posted and still maintain that part of it may have been health related for Cann- look at any scene where he sits down or stands up- he grimaces almost every time, like someone with a very bad back. Maybe the daily grind of series TV was just too much for him at this point in his life. Cox on the other was probably making the same $$ as the other young actors on the series, so maybe they just thought she was superfluous and could save a few $$ there too.
This may be the last season for Vegas, so I wouldn't be surprised to see some budget cutting here and there by NBC.

Does anyone know what that whistling song is that they used in the teaser segment?

NBC has been using it in other shows, and I think Journeyman also used it this week.

After two (three, actually) episodes I think this season's off to a slow start.

Not much humor, not much action, no musical guest stars appearing in Delinda's nightclub, no intricate plots, no activity out at the nude pool, and a very slow-pacing to Tom Selleck's scenes. Everything is a downer.

And Sam seems more mean and unhappy than sarcastically foxish. Not enough gorgeous smiles.

I also think they've done something to the picture, or shooting quality, or filtering the picture a bit, or different lighting and makeup, or something. It's just not as crisp and sharp and clear as it previously was. A bit softer.

I noticed this much more on "30 Rock" where it's obvious they made an artistic decision to soften things up. But "Las Vegas" revels in its crisp, sharp casino scenes, the well-lit but dark and colorful security office, etc., and something just doesn't look quite right to me.

Is NBC doing something intentional to its scripted episodic "filmed" shows? Looks a bit less HD to me.

Or could it be the multi-casting of NBC here in LA, and the resulting loss of bitrate or increased compression? Is this NBC's version of HD-lite?????

You must have missed the Mongomery/Gentry concert & suitcase party that Danny set up in the second half of last weeks opener.

Granted it was not in Delinda's nightclub but still.

You must have missed the Mongomery/Gentry concert & suitcase party that Danny set up in the second half of last weeks opener.Oh, that's right.

Well it certainly didn't have the usual energy of shows that Mary or Delinda had their fingers in. It was kind of sad, actually, with Danny trying to do something to grab the new owner's attention and kiss up with his "anything can happen" idea. Very weak idea (in the show, as well as in my opinion as a viewer).

Hey, look, I still will likely remain a viewer because I like the show and have history with it. But without Ed/wife and Mary the remaining cast members seem a bit overmatched to maintain the old energy.

Certainly the new concierge is not what I was hoping for or expecting as new eye candy.

And what happened to the security guy in the wheelchair? Looks like they replaced him too, with some clown character named Oscar/Oliver... doing his own impression of that awful Kenneth [NBC page] character on "30 Rock". Was this supposed to be an injection of an element of "comedy"? How about a character suitable for working in a hotel security office?

The whole departure scenario with Caan and Cox is just strange.
I'm sure Caan was the highest paid actor on the show and with the poor ratings- on the surface it looks like a pure cost cutting move.Don't think this was it, based on the articles I've seen.

He'd been on the show for four seasons and was hankering to get back into "features" (aka: FILM). Money per se was not the issue.

However I do agree that he's aged a bit, and has more of a father persona (with a bad back and a single grimaced facial expression in his current repertoire) right now rather than a Jason Bourne aura. So I don't know what he really expects to snag right now in the movie biz.

Las Vegas is having Rick and TC on tonight. It is the first time they will be on television with Tom Selleck in 20 years.

I can't wait. We're 5 minutes away!

Las Vegas is having Rick and TC on tonight. It is the first time they will be on television with Tom Selleck in 20 years.

I can't wait. We're 5 minutes away!

"Did you see the sunrise today?" :cool:

"Did you see the sunrise today?" :cool:

Great episode. IVAN!!!!

We got to see Rick and TC in the first scene. This is good they will have more than just a cameo.

And they mentioned Higgins. :D

Half way through and only got to see Rick and TC at the very start?

WTF?????

Come on, this ain't a reunion. Give us more Rick and TC.

Sorry; but not even Tom Selleck can save this show. Thought it might be better, with him on board. Oh well, some people actually like "reality tv".

Does anyone know what that whistling song is that they used in the teaser segment?

NBC has been using it in other shows, and I think Journeyman also used it this week.

I'm pretty sure it was Peter Bjorn and John - Young folks. A lot of shows are pimping that one.

Vanessa Marcil could not leave the show, IMO. Too much of an important character in the show.
The gas, I hope that was non-lethal. Next season, will Molly Sims will have already given birth.

"Did you see the sunrise today?" :cool:

That scene in Magum,PI and the very last scene on the last episode of The Bob Newhart Show, In my opinion are 2 of the greatest scenes in Television History....

Charlie

Talk about offensive...

Last night's "Christmas Carol" takeoff was unbelievable for its multiple NBC-inserted promos (several 1/2-screen popups for upcoming "Bourne" DVD!!) and product placement (Kay Jewelers, Lexus, etc.).

Talk about disruptive!

They've backed off a bit on Nikon D200 placements (now that the D300 is out), with the "D200" no longer front-and-center.

All in all, this season is very weak. I'm not sorry they're on hiatus until after New Years (or beyond, because of the strike).

I love Las Vegas! Great show! And a great episode last night.

Yes, I do agree those Bourne Ultimatium banners on the bottom of the screen were very irritating though.

Good episode last night.

I love Las Vegas! Great show! And a great episode last night.

Yes, I do agree those Bourne Ultimatium banners on the bottom of the screen were very irritating though.+1000

Great episode tonight. Delinda looked so damn hot. But what caught my attention was the audio during the intro. The bass in Baby Got Back was probably the best bass I've ever heard coming from my Sony 5.1. It seriously scared the #$%^ out of me. I had it turned up to 60/70, just enough to get a nice surround and get clear vocals, and suddenly it hit. The bass must have been 200% stronger than the vocals, and I could feel the waves going through me from 20 feet away. Whoever engineered the audio def. set that track to blast.

Great episode tonight. .... The bass must have been 200% stronger than the vocals, and I could feel the waves going through me from 20 feet away. Whoever engineered the audio def. set that track to blast.

Yeah but I watched "Children of Men" on HBO just before 'Vegas .... Holy Stain Making thumps, Batman!!! :D

Tonight's episode had me chuckling several times, especially the wedding chapel footage.

I always enjoy this show, no it's not deep and significant, is just light fluff, but it's fun.

Hope we get one more year...

agreed.... las vegas is always one of those fun shows to watch. and yes the wedding footage had be rolling.

i kinda hope mike and piper didnt get it annuled.... it could create some great moments.

I thought the past two episodes were thoroughly enjoyable and well done.

I've found myself doing a u-turn on Piper, having early on not appreciated what she would add to the show (in light of Nikki Cox's departure) as they didn't give her much to do or say. But I must say I now feel she's great!

She has beautiful large "doe eyes" (a la Mary Louise Parker) and is adorable. And her dimples make her cuter! Also, great body... like Sam, but curvier. And she's a good actress and has nice comedic timing, and is a champ at physical comedy (remember the Xmas costume show, where everybody knew it was her no matter what she wore?).

Plus, her "who's quietly sluttier?" rivalry with Sam is priceless. They're like twins, but Piper has more to fill out her skin tight mini-dresses.

Anyway, I think she and Mike (unintended spouses) make a very cute storyline and couple.

The whole tone of the show and its stories has changed over the past few months... probably driven by James Caan's departure and Tom Selleck's arrival. Fun, and enjoyable. Flat out.

Not to mention Molly Simms.

This has turned out to be an excellent season, much to my surprise.

LOL, I read a Magnum PI forum now & then & most of the Magnum/Selleck fans can't stand Las Vegas. They think it's a really bad & stupid show.

They can't believe how Tom Selleck has degraded himself by joining the series & they feel his career is going down the tubes.

They can't believe how Tom Selleck has degraded himself by joining the series & they feel his career is going down the tubes.Because he had been doing so much before he joined Las Vegas?

I started watching this show last year and for some reason I do enjoy it but it is kind of dumb. I guess it is one of those shows where you don't have to think to enjoy plus all the babes on there help as well. I think Tom S. has done a good job on the show so far

Not sure what to think about tonight's double episode. First hour was kinda cheesey, second left me confused. The title of tonight's episode was "Three Weddings and a Funeral," and the cliffhanger has me wondering who's funeral.

Not sure what to think about tonight's double episode. First hour was kinda cheesey, second left me confused. The title of tonight's episode was "Three Weddings and a Funeral," and the cliffhanger has me wondering who's funeral.

Well I just watched it on DVR (I was about 30 mins behind)...

For those that haven't seen it yet... be prepared to be even more confused!

Because he had been doing so much before he joined Las Vegas?

Well "yes" as a matter of fact. For several years he as doing a western for TnT every year & a half. Several eps of Boston leagal& so on. The last few years he's been doing the "Stone Cold" movies based on Robert B. Parker's books. They have been very good.


http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000633/


They just feel it's beneath him. I myself do not.

...second left me confused.Yeah, confused about sums it up. Still, if you don't think about it too much.....

Well unless the Montecito jet's crash is a total fabrication/mistake, cooked up by Cooper or mis-reported by the news agencies, for some yet-undisclosed reason relating somehow to warding off the current takeover bid, I can't imagine why we would see a jet crash and death of its occupants (whoever they might be) as somehow "entertaining". Very odd, not seen something like that since James Caan and his former agency contacts invented fantastical secret solutions to Montecito problems or threats.

And where/how did Cooper "go away" and then "come back", in time to give Piper away for what we're seemingly supposed to imagine is what he still believes is going to be her wedding instead of his memorial, if not on that jet?

The second hour was clearly completely independent of the first hour, woven together as a 2-hour special simply to burn off the last of whatever "new episode" (or snippets?) was still in-the-can resulting from the writers' strike... not knowing at the time that the strike would finally have been settled last weekend. They'll probably dream up some fantastical explanation once the writers return.

I think this starts a mini-hiatus. Don't know exactly when it will come back with the conclusion, but I suspect early April?

Surely after all of this time and engenderment of good feelings about Delinda's upcoming baby, they're not going to end that storyline unhappily? So how can sudden blood be a "good thing" that's entertaining to the viewers?

Agreed... all a bit confusing, and surprisingly "down".

I think this starts a mini-hiatus. Don't know exactly when it will come back with the conclusion, but I suspect early April?

No, not coming back this year -- it was billed as the last show of the year (lead in on the network was "and now, the season finale of Las Vegas"). It may not be coming back at all, as the show hasn't been renewed yet. In which case, it was an abysmal way to "end" things.

50:50 we are left hanging until a TV movie is shot... which can be plugged 3 months in advance via promo bug. Meanwhile, NBC will be bringing back "Diff'rent Strokes" and "Facts of Life" as the latest remakes of the 1980s.

50:50 we are left hanging until a TV movie is shot... which can be plugged 3 months in advance via promo bug.Isn't this practice appalling?

Not quite as awful as popups and flying color graphics DURING show content, but still appalling. The network of "appalling".


Meanwhile, NBC will be bringing back "Diff'rent Strokes" and "Facts of Life" as the latest remakes of the 1980s.Wouldn't surprise me. "Las Vegas" turns out to be the only NBC show I watched regularly (other than the Olympics), and there's good reason why I didn't watch anything else (aside from their lowest-in-town digital audio level here in LA).

No, not coming back this year -- it was billed as the last show of the year (lead in on the network was "and now, the season finale of Las Vegas"). It may not be coming back at all, as the show hasn't been renewed yet. In which case, it was an abysmal way to "end" things.

Really. I hope to see Las Vegas come back for another season. :eek:
Who are going to be the architects for the new towers? Tom Mayne, Zaha Hadid, Gensler, SOM, HOK, Foster & Partners, Callison? haaha

The season finale was odd, overall I enjoyed it.

Damn.. That was the season finale..

Ok.. Here is what I see.

Delinda has a bloody birth and the child is ok. Cooper didn't even know about the plane crash. Mike and Piper get a divorce but they still bang. And, that security guy that is in the wheelchair; has a bigger role next year, maybe people will even remember his name [like, me].

I dunno, I'd say it's a fair assessment.

However, thanks "Las Vegas" for keeping my friday nights eventful.

For my theory, I see Danny being a single dad. Cooper building the second tower. Dunno about Sam, but they'll surely find a way to keep her around. I think Mike & Piper will stay together. Losing Danny, Mike, or Sam just wouldn't make the show the same (of course, I thought the same about Ed, but Cooper has filled in ok).

Las Vegas has been the only show I've watched religiously for the past few years, as my interest in other shows has come and gone. I too hope we see another season.

50:50 we are left hanging until a TV movie is shot... which can be plugged 3 months in advance via promo bug. Meanwhile, NBC will be bringing back "Diff'rent Strokes" and "Facts of Life" as the latest remakes of the 1980s.


LOL.

I would be up for a Facts of Life movie. Hope they get Jo to come back. Don't know how they will make a Different Strokes movie since part of the cast is gone.

The Show was cancelled. Boo to NBC! Leaving the show with cliffhangers and no proper ending! Yet another HD show gone. They will probably replace it with more sd reality boringness. http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Nbc/800033830

The Show was cancelled. Boo to NBC! Leaving the show with cliffhangers and no proper ending! Yet another HD show gone. They will probably replace it with more sd reality boringness. http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Nbc/800033830

Well that sucks another show of mine gone. I may say screw the network shows altogether as they cancel the one's I like. So Far this year I have lost

Vegas
FNL
Shark
The Unit
Prison Break?
and whatever else I may have forgot

The Show was cancelled. Boo to NBC! Leaving the show with cliffhangers and no proper ending! Yet another HD show gone. They will probably replace it with more sd reality boringness. http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Nbc/800033830

What a joke. I'm tired of these shows ending with no resolution. It's like the writer's know they are in trouble, and in light of the Jericho revival, they think if they make the ending a cliffhanger the network will be forced to bring them back.

I may just get rid of my dvr seeing alll these shows I watch get cancelled.

Thank god for Natl Georaphic and Discovery and the Food Network

What a joke. I'm tired of these shows ending with no resolution. It's like the writer's know they are in trouble, and in light of the Jericho revival, they think if they make the ending a cliffhanger the network will be forced to bring them back.

They should have given us a full season if this was the last!

I hope we get one more year, and with better storylines! There is potential. It's better than starting from scratch with a new series. Bring back James Caan even if it's only a guest role.

I propose one more full season with 24 episodes. 4 guest apperances by James Caan. Bring in better writers. Resolve who AJ Cooper is and his past.

Total shame and a horrible way to end.

Well this is a real shame.

As with "Boston Legal", I'd been a faithful watcher of "Las Vegas" since day 1, and had gotten totally comfortable with the whole cast and all storylines and history. Like family. Never missed a show.

Too bad. Not surprisingly, this is the one and only NBC show I watch(ed) regularly (not counting non-HD "Scrubs"). This network's creative and scheduling decisions constantly amaze me (e.g. "Boomtown").

I'm down to one NBC series now- Medium (two- Chuck if it ever returns!) :mad:
What a way to run a network, NBC just blows...

PS- I'm still mad they cut Journeyman

NO! This is one of the few network shows I watched! It was fun and IMHO was one of the best looking shows HD!

The Show was cancelled. Boo to NBC! Leaving the show with cliffhangers and no proper ending! Yet another HD show gone. They will probably replace it with more sd reality boringness. http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Nbc/800033830

Given how expensive LV was to make (ever hear the cast talk about the set? It was one of the biggest in Hollywood taking up more than one studio for the casino floor), I wouldn't be surprised to find cost paid a big part in the decision.

Shame that it will be replaced with yet another game show or something like The Second Biggest Loser…

Of course don't lose faith entirely; Ausiello has been wrong many, many times before.

I didn’t see the final 2 hour Las Vegas episode because my local NBC affiliate, KFOR HD, is so backward that they have to shift to SD in order to accommodate their weather map when the weather is bad. When I saw that they had done it to the 2 hour finale I deleted it from my TiVo without watching. Now, based on the distressing news that the finale ended in a cliffhanger and that the show has been cancelled, I realize that KFOR’s backwardness helped rather than hurt me. Thanks, KFOR – I guess. :)

I'm really glad I stopped watching this show at the end of two seasons ago. Sounds like it went downhill fast.

Feb. 22, 2008
Copyright © Las Vegas Review-Journal

Montecito resort closes its doors

All bets are off on NBC's "Las Vegas."

The fictional Montecito resort has gone dark after a five-year run.

"That's why they call it show business, emphasis on the business part," creator Gary Scott Thompson told me by telephone Thursday.

NBC informed him Wednesday that the show would not be renewed, meaning last Friday's 106th episode was the finale, three shows short of a full season.

"The cast was not happy," said Thompson, adding, "We were really a victim of the (writers) strike."

Another factor, he said, was the NFL's anti-Las Vegas stance, which prohibited lead-in advertising on NBC's Sunday NFL game. That forced the show to a Friday time slot, and "Friday night didn't make any money. They told me they tried 18 or 19 scenarios to keep us."

It was the fourth time slot the show had to deal with.

"That's asking a lot of the fans, but we've had some loyal fans," Thompson said.

Because the final episode, "Three Weddings and Funeral, Part I," ended with a cliffhanger, NBC received a storm of fan reaction.

The episode ended with Delinda DeLine's baby in jeopardy. Molly Sims played the role of Delinda.

"Apparently, there's an online fan campaign, and people are sending baby booties, baby dolls," Thompson said. "I sort of understand from the fans' standpoint. They're saying, 'We invested five years, and we deserve an ending.'

"Tell Las Vegas that we appreciate all that the city did for us. We love that town, and we love the show, and we wish we could have done another 100."

Most of the cast, co-producers, writers and NBC executives gathered at the Palms last month for a ceremony to mark the 100th episode. Mayor Oscar Goodman, who had three cameos on the show, presented the cast with ceremonial keys to the city.

The cast and crew will gather for a barbecue next week "to say our goodbyes," said Thompson, who fell in love with Las Vegas when he visited here as a 19-year-old.

The Show was cancelled. Boo to NBC! Leaving the show with cliffhangers and no proper ending! Yet another HD show gone. They will probably replace it with more sd reality boringness. http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Ausiello-Report/Ausiello-Scoop-Nbc/800033830
I hope CBS picks it up like they did with JAG. Am I correct on that?
Thnx

Just in passing, I thought it was interesting that James Lesure had a cameo role late last season on "Lost".

And, another new member of the "Lost" cast, Marsha Thomason (formerly Nessa Holt) now plays Naomi.

Can't wait to see what Vanessa Marcil and Camille Guaty do next. Love them.

Maybe an updated version of "Charlie's Angels", with Sarah Shahi filling out the cast. This would be the hottest show on TV with the best three brunettes.

NBC?

I hope CBS picks it up like they did with JAG. Am I correct on that?
Thnx

That would be a huge win for CBS.

CBS could hire new writers and get better story lines. Perhaps CBS can get James Caan to guest star in a couple episodes.

I wonder if CBS can legally take Las Vegas from NBC. Would be awesome if they can.

Well that sucks another show of mine gone. I may say screw the network shows altogether as they cancel the one's I like. So Far this year I have lost

Vegas
FNL
Shark
The Unit
Prison Break?
and whatever else I may have forgot

Just wanted to mention I've read that NBC is trying to negotiate a deal with either CW or another network to SOMEHOW bring FNL back. The last I read about this was yesterday, so I've no idea if they can work out a deal or not yet...but at least we can still hope the show MAY yet be saved...

DGK

Well to hear that Vegas has been canceled really STINKS. It was one of my favorite shows, and I've been a fan for quite some time.

Small comfort that they'll probably release the last season on DVD, like they did the others...at least I can watch them over and over again.

IMO NBC should at least give the fans the satisfaction of some kind of ending...a movie maybe? Something that would even go on the DVD set for this last season? Geeez....

Ah, this is just sad.

DGK

Well this is a real shame.

As with "Boston Legal", I'd been a faithful watcher of "Las Vegas" since day 1, and had gotten totally comfortable with the whole cast and all storylines and history. Like family. Never missed a show.

Too bad. Not surprisingly, this is the one and only NBC show I watch(ed) regularly (not counting non-HD "Scrubs"). This network's creative and scheduling decisions constantly amaze me (e.g. "Boomtown").

Same here. Not watching another show on NBC. Screw em..:mad:

Jeeze, that's a downright crappy way to treat fans of the show, like me, that have watched every single episode.

I was also a huge JAG fan -- loved it when USA had reruns on nightly.

Here's the campaign to flood NBC with baby stuff - http://lasvegas-theseries.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1948&st=0&#entry1284912

LasVegas went out with a bang... er... butts:

http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/release/2008/0222.asp

Considering the new larger FCC indecency fines, the dollars per cheek might be a little excessive for NBC affiliates in the Central and Mountain time zones!!

LasVegas went out with a bang... er... butts:

http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/release/2008/0222.asp

Considering the new larger FCC indecency fines, the dollars per cheek might be a little excessive for NBC affiliates in the Central and Mountain time zones!!

as i remember it showed butts in background, but they were blurred out by censors

http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/release/2008/0222.asp
They consider that a "graphic nude scene"?!? "Graphic"?!??

Please tell me how any child's innocence would be shattered by watching that scene---there are much more "graphic" scenes on the show that don't happen to feature nudity.

LasVegas went out with a bang... er... butts:

http://www.parentstv.org/PTC/publications/release/2008/0222.asp

Considering the new larger FCC indecency fines, the dollars per cheek might be a little excessive for NBC affiliates in the Central and Mountain time zones!!

The FCC is ridiculous. They have a problem with this, but people getting shot/stabbed/killed/raped, well, that is just fine.

The FCC is ridiculous. They have a problem with this, but people getting shot/stabbed/killed/raped, well, that is just fine.

Hopefully, this sort of nonsense will fade away starting in, oh, about 11 months. They'll be a new sheriff in town at the FCC and maybe they'll have better things to do. ;)

The Parent's TV Council must not have been watching the episode about a month ago with the beginning showing a frontal view of three ladies in bikinis. If you saw it, it was more graphic/erotic in my opinion.

But I just watched Las Vegas for the storyline, myself.

All of this controversy with the FCC could be avoided if the networks simply rated their programming properly.

Besides, never say never with NBC; they may need something to fill that coveted quarterlife spot on the schedule. :D

Alas, once they strike the huge (and expensive) set, I don't think even a movie to wrap things up is likely.

This sucks! I have not missed one episode, ever.

I love the show, but reading the post by post official threads are not for me. I wouldn't have known about this for a while if not for http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1001855&highlight=vegas . Why can't big news like a cancellation have it's own thread, I don't know. They decided to lock that thread. So I'm gonna post the link here for the petition: http://lasvegas-theseries.com/phpPETITION/

Total shame and a horrible way to end.
I agree. What a way to end a series.
I have stayed with this show for years. See ya.

What are the chances of another network picking-up/buying the show? JAG is a big example, so WHY NOT?
Thnx

Personally I wish CW would pick up Las Vegas. I'm guessing LV had as many if not more viewers than anything show CW has in their lineup. In the past when I've seen the full Nielson ratings, the top rated CW shows had fewer viewers than many of the shows which were cancelled on NBC/CBS/ABC. It seems like a no-brainer. CW immediately gets a top rated (by their standards) show.

Didn't NBC cancel Jag and was picked upped by CBS and did quite well. Maybe history repeats itself with Vegas.

I think a great idea would be a network like MYNetwork TV or CW picking up Popular cancelled series & airing new episodes on "bad nights" for the Big 3....
MyN or CW could make a dent in Sat or Sun By programming Las Vegas, Fri Nite Lights, , Journeyman, 4400 ect ... Not only attracting the "fans" of the shows, but being on a "slow" "network nite", attract other "regular" viewers that aren't interested in hours of SD "48 hours mystery" ect, & would more likley watch these shows instead ... ...

The problem with CW is the HD signal is not national like the other 4 are. I am from New Orleans and working in Charleston and neither of these CW stations do anything in HD.

The problem with CW is the HD signal is not national like the other 4 are. I am from New Orleans and working in Charleston and neither of these CW stations do anything in HD.

The new orleans station cw 38 does hd .

The new orleans station cw 38 does hd .


I only get to come home during the weekends, so I guess there is probably not anything in HD during the weekend that I watch.

I've found myself doing a u-turn on Piper, having early on not appreciated what she would add to the show (in light of Nikki Cox's departure) as they didn't give her much to do or say. But I must say I now feel she's great!

She has beautiful large "doe eyes" (a la Mary Louise Parker) and is adorable. And her dimples make her cuter! Also, great body... like Sam, but curvier. And she's a good actress and has nice comedic timing, and is a champ at physical comedy (remember the Xmas costume show, where everybody knew it was her no matter what she wore?).I was channel surfing Sunday night and passed through "Dirt" on FX (which I have recorded, but haven't watched yet).

Lo and behold, who do I see there much to my happiness... but Piper (Camille Guaty)!

I don't know if this was just a bit part with 4 lines in this episode, or if she was a character throughout the show and may appear in additional episodes, but she looked great.

Fingers crossed.

The thing that makes Las Vegas different from JAG was that JAG was only on NBC for one season unlike five for Las Vegas.

If I ever made a show for TV I would have it as part of the deal that if they cancel it I need the right to have a proper final episode to wrap everything up. I just got around to watching the final episode a couple nights ago and I think it would of been better to just make it the first hour and completely cut the second hour.