Can you do this with nvidia drivers? I can't seem to get it going on my 6600GT on my Sharp LCD. Keeps saying not supported.

Pretty sure you cant do this with nvidia or ati as 1366 is not a multiple of 8. I have a sharp lcd with the same resolution and the best i can do is either 1360x768 using standard drivers, or 1368x768 with powerstrip. I use the latter with DVI which means i have 1 pixel overscan either side but is pixel perfect. (I'm using ATI but think the same applies to nvidia)

RD

you also get one-for-one at 1360 x 768, without need for powerstrip. (3 pixels on each side remain black)- there is no scaling

OKay I have three options for my LCD to set it at 1024 x768, 1280 x 768, and 1366 x 768.

I tried setting it to 1366 x 768 and then did a custom rez with the nvidia drivers under display properties/advanced. It did not fill the screen I had bars on the side around and 1" wide. Text on the display also looked werid, text would be blurry every few letters. So I switched the LCD to 1280 x 768 with the HTPC still set at 1366 x 768, now every thing was razor sharp, but still have th boarders on the side when dot to dot. Shouldnt it be over scanning since I have the LCD at the lower display and why the heck and I getting boarders and blurry text on the higher rez? I can't figure this out.

mike-

you're using DVI, right?

download the latest nvidia drivers from their website. you have to "add" the resolution.

make sure you uncheck "hide resolutions i can't display" in the control panel

(the first time i tried this, it didn't "stick"- going back into the contorl panel, it was back at 1280 x 768

leave the TV at 1366 x 768- make sure it says "dot by dot"- the only thing the TV really cares about is the 768 part, FWIW

i know this works, perfectly.

Yah I am using DVI, I have driver version 71.89. Should I be using 71.84 for MCE, since that is what I am running?

I tried inputing the rez but it says its invald, do i need to use the advanced timings?

I have the 32 g4u and I have had a lot of trouble getting 1366x768 to run. I have the 6800Gt with dual DVI output, currently the sharp lcd is connected to the bottom (closest to mb). I downloaded Forceware 76.41 (it is a beta version)under this forceware my monitor is recognized as sharp lcd. I am currently running 1368 x 768 with dot by dot. Picture is crystal clear.
Don't forget to to do the auto sync on the monitor after you try new resolutions. auto sync is under Menu-->Setup-->autosync then just check the view mode from your remote. should say dot by dot. I've have not yet achieved 1366x768 and I like 1368xi768 (no side bars)much better then 1360x768. You will notice that at this resolution the. when you mouse over to the edge of the screen it will move to the unseen row of pixels... i have not figured how to lock the screen if anyone knows a solution let me know. This has not bothered me since when watching movies i never move the mouse.

Well I gave it a try and could not get it to work. I have the Sharp LC-37D7U. I download the drives you had and gave it a shot, no luck. The best I can do is set to monitor scaling, 1280 x 768, then set the tv to 1280 x 768 and stretch, dot to dot does not work for some reason. If I set to the lcd to 1366x768 and the 6600gt to 1368x768, then auto sync the pic is set too far to the left with the clock cut off. I reposition using fine sync, but it still doesnt fill the whole screen, when it should be overscanning. I really dont get this =(.

I know how frustrated you are I went thru the same thing. Try going into the nvidia settings. Add a custom resolution, w 1368, h 768, color 32 and 60 hrz then hit add. Then hit advanced timings my settings are as follows

mode and timings: custom values
timing standard: custom values
flat panel scaling: display adapter scaling


First box horizontal pixels

Front porch 48 sync width 112
back porch 248 sync rate 47. 98 (this is locked)
sync polarity + active pixels 1368

second box vertical lines

Front porch 1 sync width 3
back porch 30 sync rate 59.830
sync polarity - active pixels 768

interlaced mode is NOT checked

hit apply then make sure you have that res applied and resync the display. may have to cycle the power on the display also.

hope this helps

OMG I finally got it!!!! Thank you sooooo much, everything is razor sharp. I so owe you one now...lol.

Awsome!!! Glad to help. :cool:

uh-o one slight problem, everytime I reboot it gets screwed up and I have to reply the settings =(. Anyway to prevent this?

Ah it's just not on reboot, its anytime the rez changes, like screen savers or games. Ugh, I thought I had it perfect, sooo close.

Strange, I have my screen go in energy savings mode. no changes on start up for me.. let me me know if you need more help.

Yah anytime the computer reboots, or changes it's rez (screen savers, games etc,) everything screws up and I have to reapply the timings. Maybe I will try another driver or post this on the nvidia forums.

Anyone have any ideas? The nvidia forum is very slow.

Ah i got it, tried about three different drivers, 71.89 held the settings fine for me. I still get a black bar on the side when it switches rez, but when the game or screen saver is off it goes right back were it is supposed to. Not perfect, but better

Try to add the custom resolution with this tool:

http://www.pagehosting.co.uk/rf/

With an ATi card 1368x768 is the closest you will get. With an nVIDIA card, you can achieve 1366x768 but only with the help of Power Strip. At the moment the built-in custom resolution generator only supports resolutions which are evenly divisible by eight, hence 1368x768.

Oh yeah, for those of you making your own custom resolutions, don't forget to make a custom monitor driver otherwise your screensavers and video games won't see your new resolution. Click on the link in my signature for more info.

I don't mind the slight overscan of 1368x768, it is only 2 pixels so no big deal you can't even notice that. So I didn't even bother with powerstrip, I dont want another app in the background running. Hopefully nvidia will fix the issue with there next drivers.

Thanks for the info about writing the monitor driver, that would be great as things always jump down to lower rez when switching to other sources. Never wrote drivers before but ill give it a try. I'll contact if you if I have any trouble :) . Thanks again for the info.

JGene,

I have been playing around with it and read your site. So if I want 1366x768 I need to use the Gefen’s DVI-Detective to bypass the Sharps EDID OR I can just wait for Nvidia to fix the problem with new drivers. The 2 pixel overscan doesn't bother me it is the screen savers and other apps that run at different rez. They tend to be blurry and aligned wrong.

So if I write the monitor.inf file I will have an option to set the rez in games to 1368x768? I am just a little nervous writing anything as I do not want to damage a $5,000 display. That RefreshForce looked pretty simple that 1c3d0g posted, anyone have experinces with that?

When playing games you can only play games in the res supplied by the games. So I play HL2 at 1280X768 and I have to manually switch the monitor to that res and stretch it. That is the only way to work around the res changes. or until game producers make games that run in 1368(66)X768. My games that I am playing now are World of warcraft, HH2 and guildwars all in 1280x768 stretched they all look great too. If you dont stretch the image you will always have black bars with 1280x768 in dot by dot.
The problem is our monitor does not change resolutions automatically, we have to change it manually. Its a pain sometimes but I can live with it. Even if you write the edid yourself you will have to change the res on your monitor anytime your apps change the res.

JGene,

I have been playing around with it and read your site. So if I want 1366x768 I need to use the Gefen’s DVI-Detective to bypass the Sharps EDID OR I can just wait for Nvidia to fix the problem with new drivers. The 2 pixel overscan doesn't bother me it is the screen savers and other apps that run at different rez. They tend to be blurry and aligned wrong.

So if I write the monitor.inf file I will have an option to set the rez in games to 1368x768? I am just a little nervous writing anything as I do not want to damage a $5,000 display. That RefreshForce looked pretty simple that 1c3d0g posted, anyone have experinces with that?

If you want 1366x768 then yes you can either go the Gefen route OR use PowerStrip to create the custom resolution. You don't need to have PowerStrip running all the time to generate the proper resolution--all you need to do is:

1. Install/run PowerStrip
2. Feed it the proper parameters for 1366x768 and have PowerStrip load the new resolution into the registry
3. Reboot
4. Choose 1366x768 from your list of available resolutions
5. Open up PowerStrip and disable it from loading at launch.
6. Exit PowerStrip

As far as creating a custom monitor driver, I just used PowerStrip to do that. Alternatively there is one which you can download off of my website.

When playing games you can only play games in the res supplied by the games. So I play HL2 at 1280X768 and I have to manually switch the monitor to that res and stretch it. That is the only way to work around the res changes. or until game producers make games that run in 1368(66)X768. My games that I am playing now are World of warcraft, HH2 and guildwars all in 1280x768 stretched they all look great too. If you dont stretch the image you will always have black bars with 1280x768 in dot by dot.
The problem is our monitor does not change resolutions automatically, we have to change it manually. Its a pain sometimes but I can live with it. Even if you write the edid yourself you will have to change the res on your monitor anytime your apps change the res.

That is partially true--most games do not ship with native widescreen support, however there are most certainly ways to get your favorite video games to run widescreen resolutions (http://www.tigerdave.com/wgl/).

JGene,
Do you have the sharp lcd HDTV also, I've had a heck of a time trying to get powerstrip to run on my nvidea card. I have not been able to run it at all with this card. I had no problems with my old ati 9800 pro and powerstrip. I em heading to your link now to see if you have the driver I need.

Hi,

I have followed the guide and use PS to create a custom resolution for my Sharp LC-32G1H LCD TV, I can get the resolution and 1366x768 desktop but the desktop is "pan-and-scan" which have 2 black bar on both side, the full desktop cannot be shown, when I move the mouse cursor to the edge of the visible desktop area, the desktop scroll to the rest of the unseen region......

What do I miss ?

Thanks!

I don't know whether this applies to other 1366x768 displays but a new JVC LCD I was looking at quotes 1366x768 in their advertising but if you download the manual and look at the PC input section it says 1360x768 is the preferred mode as this is the native resolution of the panel. Would this be right or are they just totally confusing people?

I don't know whether this applies to other 1366x768 displays but a new JVC LCD I was looking at quotes 1366x768 in their advertising but if you download the manual and look at the PC input section it says 1360x768 is the preferred mode as this is the native resolution of the panel. Would this be right or are they just totally confusing people?

Yes, they are confusing the people that don't know that resolutions must be in multiples of eight.

codylo, the pan and scan is as far as i got with power strip. I am not trying to get it to work anymore. I am happy with 1368x768 with only 2 pixal pan and scan. nvidia wake up and fix this problem please.

nvidia doesn't have a problem.

nec's top plasmas are 1365 x 768. 1365 isn't even an even number. would you expect the graphics card to do that? do you understand how graphics cards work?

not addressed to any specific poster, but this constant whining about 1366 vs 1360 is really ridiculous. you can spend 5 minutes total of time and, without powerstrip or any other add-on, get 1360 x 768 pixel-for-pixel. the 3 pixel width black bars on each side of the screen are indistinguishable from the black frame.

i know- i'm staring at it right now.

i'm beginning to think that some of you think you are "losing" those 3 pixels somehow.

cjv123: that's what i was thinking, how many panels really are 1366 anyways, as I said JVC say there's is yet they tell you to use 1360 in the manual as that's what the nativ res actually is!?

Stupid manufacturers.

Here is my experience with a Sharp LC-26GA4U. This is a Sharp with 1366x768 pixels. I am connecting with DVI from an nVidia fx5200.

JGene's instructions are excellent. They are very clear, and easy to follow. I have tried to get any of 1360, 1366 and 1368 to work (most recently with the guru3d 72.13 WHQL driver). Here is what happens:

- The Sharp is set to 1366x768 "dot by dot" mode.

- I change to the new resolution. With "monitor scaling", I get a "sliding desktop", where moving the mouse left-to-right scrolls the 1366 desktop within a 1280 screen. I think the nVidia driver has decided that the display must stay at 1280, and that I want a larger virtual desktop.

- If I switch to "display adapter scaling", the Sharp changes to 1280x1024 mode. I end up with the "sliding desktop" inside of a 1280x1024 screen.

Switching the TV off-on or rebooting the computer does not help.

It seems that the LC-26GA4U does not want to accept a 1366x768 (or 1360, 1368) signal on the DVI port. Once 1280x768 is exceeded, it switches to its maximum known resolution of 1280x1024, and stays there.

I am confused, No problem with nvidia and EDID ??? have you done a google search on the subject ?? Well THERE is a problem with it and 1360 x 768 works like poop, the text appears to be electrified in some manner. and this is directed at no one in particular. :cool:

Hey im using Sharp 26G as well. i do not have ANY problem setting my screen at 1366x768 dot by dot no overscan via DVI. here is what i did.

1) Powerstrip create monitor profile to support 1366x768
2) powerstrip create custome resolution at 1366x768
3) change display setting to 1366x768
4) auto-sync at your sharp mon and you are done.

btw i can play guild war and half life2 at 1366x768 resolution, these 2 games support that. HAVE FUN!

Here is my experience with a Sharp LC-26GA4U. This is a Sharp with 1366x768 pixels. I am connecting with DVI from an nVidia fx5200.

JGene's instructions are excellent. They are very clear, and easy to follow. I have tried to get any of 1360, 1366 and 1368 to work (most recently with the guru3d 72.13 WHQL driver). Here is what happens:

- The Sharp is set to 1366x768 "dot by dot" mode.

- I change to the new resolution. With "monitor scaling", I get a "sliding desktop", where moving the mouse left-to-right scrolls the 1366 desktop within a 1280 screen. I think the nVidia driver has decided that the display must stay at 1280, and that I want a larger virtual desktop.

- If I switch to "display adapter scaling", the Sharp changes to 1280x1024 mode. I end up with the "sliding desktop" inside of a 1280x1024 screen.

Switching the TV off-on or rebooting the computer does not help.

It seems that the LC-26GA4U does not want to accept a 1366x768 (or 1360, 1368) signal on the DVI port. Once 1280x768 is exceeded, it switches to its maximum known resolution of 1280x1024, and stays there.

but did you actually "changed to the new resolution"

in the control panel, what does it say under "display-settiings" for the resolution? did you follw the advice about the setting "show only custom settings?"

I have installed JGene's custom driver. I also used PowerStrip to create the 1366x768 mode, with the given timings, and added it.

In the "Displays" control panel, 1366x768 shows up as a "custom mode".

When I select and apply 1366x768 (with monitor scaling), I get the 1366x768 sliding desktop with a 1280x768 display.

Going to "Digital Flat Panel Settings" and selecting "display adapter scaling" causes the Sharp to switch to 1280x1024 mode, and the sliding desktop is still active.

Interestingly, the "Digital Flat Panel Settings" dialog says: "Your flat panel display has a maximum resolution of 1280x1024".

It looks like the nVidia driver is still getting the maximum resolution from the Sharp EDID, instead of the custom driver.

I know how frustrated you are I went thru the same thing. Try going into the nvidia settings. Add a custom resolution, w 1368, h 768, color 32 and 60 hrz then hit add. Then hit advanced timings my settings are as follows

mode and timings: custom values
timing standard: custom values
flat panel scaling: display adapter scaling


First box horizontal pixels

Front porch 48 sync width 112
back porch 248 sync rate 47. 98 (this is locked)
sync polarity + active pixels 1368

second box vertical lines

Front porch 1 sync width 3
back porch 30 sync rate 59.830
sync polarity - active pixels 768

interlaced mode is NOT checked

hit apply then make sure you have that res applied and resync the display. may have to cycle the power on the display also.

hope this helps

I was wondering if Powerstrip could help since the setting in Powerstrip is a bit too complicate for me....I have then uninstall Powerstrip and create a custom resolution with only the nVidia driver (the MCE compatible one) using the information above and it works. You may get an ugly output which seems not what you want just after you apply the newly added resolution, but don't worry, everything is razor sharp after doing an "auto-sync" on the LCD TV menu (mine is Sharp LC32-G1H). The resolution is now pixel perfect!

chmilar

instead of reading the EDID directly from the mon, you can use powerstrip to create a New Inf file for your monitor so that your SharpLCD can show 1366x768 screen

btw anyone success output 1080i or 720p at 1366x768 using component cable? i have major problem setting up this one...

I am using a custom inf file. I downloaded the one JGene made.

The info from the custom inf file shows up in the "resolution" section of the control panel. However, the "digital flat panel settings" section still reports the maximum resolution as 1280x1024, which it is probably reading from the EDID.

(With the custom inf file, 1280x1024 does not even appear in the "resolution" list.)

For any of you who cannot use my 1366x768 timings then you might try adjusting the horizontal and vertical front/back porch settings. I run the timings on my Sharp TV very tightly, however if you loosen up the settings a bit then you should be able to get 1366x768 without the black bars. The whole reason you get the black bars at that point is that the driver thinks that the video frame packets may be too big for the monitor (because of the EDID) and ratchets you down to the next smallest resolution with a virtual desktop.

I am confused, No problem with nvidia and EDID ??? have you done a google search on the subject ?? Well THERE is a problem with it and 1360 x 768 works like poop, the text appears to be electrified in some manner. and this is directed at no one in particular. :cool:

Electric text = bad video sync. That's a correctable problem either by resyncing at the TV (Sharp Menu: Setup->Auto/Fine Sync.) or fine-tuning the resolution with PowerStrip.

Thanks for your help JGene,

I've done the fine sync and auto sync does not help the electrified text.

Could you point me in the right direction on your site for the ini file? I can not seem to find it.

If the Fine or Auto Sync does not fix the issue then you'll have to adjust the timings slighly in Power Strip or the nVIDIA custom resolution generator. As for the monitor driver, you can download that here (http://www.geocities.com/jgeneedid/SharpAVS1366x768.zip).

I know how frustrated you are I went thru the same thing. Try going into the nvidia settings. Add a custom resolution, w 1368, h 768, color 32 and 60 hrz then hit add. Then hit advanced timings my settings are as follows

mode and timings: custom values
timing standard: custom values
flat panel scaling: display adapter scaling


First box horizontal pixels

Front porch 48 sync width 112
back porch 248 sync rate 47. 98 (this is locked)
sync polarity + active pixels 1368

second box vertical lines

Front porch 1 sync width 3
back porch 30 sync rate 59.830
sync polarity - active pixels 768

interlaced mode is NOT checked

hit apply then make sure you have that res applied and resync the display. may have to cycle the power on the display also.

hope this helps

can i use these directions on my maxent? also, should i be using the Nvidia driver 71.89 for Win XP or the 71.84 for MCE? I am running MCE 2005.

http://www.maxentusa.com/_coreModules/eShopping/productDetail.aspx?productMasterID=15

can i use these directions on my maxent? also, should i be using the Nvidia driver 71.89 for Win XP or the 71.84 for MCE? I am running MCE 2005.

http://www.maxentusa.com/_coreModules/eShopping/productDetail.aspx?productMasterID=15

You can probably use that timing and be OK. As far as the drivers go, use whichever one works first and stick with it :)

I've seen a couple of people mention the Pan&Scan Problem. I am obviously missing something because every resolution I set on my Sony HS20 comes up in 1024x768 with a desktop resolution of whatever the setting is.

I have the NVidia FX5200 in a Dell 8300 and fully update WinXP Pro.

NVidia 66.83 Drivers

I've ready JGene article (many times, nice job btw), set custom monitor configs from Powerstrip, add custom resolution, reformatted and reinstalled XP and all drivers and still, Pan&Scan.

Could anyone who has had this issues and suddenly figured it out please let me know what I am doing wrong...

Thanks In advance

man this is frustrating.

VGA works fine on my computer with 1366 x 768
DVI produces fuzzy text and noise on the bottom and right edges of the screen. any advice? I cant seem to find a "auto-sync" menu on my Maxent. is this something where i have to play around with Powerstrip?

Here is my problem - added custom res of 1368x768 - and it seemed to work the very first time. But since I've rebooted, it still won't fill up the entire screen (Fuji plasma through DVI).

When I open the settings it is still set to 1368x768. If I switch to 1360x768 there is no difference - screen is the same size. native res. of plasma is 1366x768.

6600GT w 71.89

thats a strange resolution

Someone made some comments about game not playing at the right resolution.

Specially HL2. Let me help you out.
Most game play at any resolution you want. Here is what you have not done.

First - as you did - set up your resolution correctly with your driver - powerstrip - or whatever you want...

Second - you did not do that - set up your displayinf file correctly. This file can be custom made by powerstrip to tell the system that your display can handle certain resolution. The game uses this info to display a list of possible resolution to choose from. I have done this and HL2 works absolutely perfect at ANY resolution you want.

Third - that is it. there is nothing else to do. Start your game - go to setting screen and select the resolution you want.

I really wish everyone would know that because it makes a HUGE difference to play a game at the max resolution and everybody seems to be having problem.

F

I know how frustrated you are I went thru the same thing. Try going into the nvidia settings. Add a custom resolution, w 1368, h 768, color 32 and 60 hrz then hit add. Then hit advanced timings my settings are as follows

mode and timings: custom values
timing standard: custom values
flat panel scaling: display adapter scaling


First box horizontal pixels

Front porch 48 sync width 112
back porch 248 sync rate 47. 98 (this is locked)
sync polarity + active pixels 1368

second box vertical lines

Front porch 1 sync width 3
back porch 30 sync rate 59.830
sync polarity - active pixels 768

interlaced mode is NOT checked

hit apply then make sure you have that res applied and resync the display. may have to cycle the power on the display also.

hope this helps

Hey, in case nobody has told you that you are THE MAN today, YOU ARE THE FREAKING MAN!!

I have been jacking with PS & my Nvidia drivers for the last 24hrs. Your simple settings are so perfect! I'm using a 5900 Ultra 256 & a 32D5U. Thank you so much!

Thanks Pat,

I am now running 1360x768 after updating my drivers. I now have the screen filled from edge to edge without the pan and scan effect. the only difference from the above setting are 1368 entries are changed to 1360. This thread has been very helpful, Thanks to everyone. I will have to start all over when I hook my Sharp 12k up to my computer lol. Wife will be PO'ed again.

man this is frustrating.

VGA works fine on my computer with 1366 x 768
DVI produces fuzzy text and noise on the bottom and right edges of the screen. any advice? I cant seem to find a "auto-sync" menu on my Maxent. is this something where i have to play around with Powerstrip?

im still having this problem with fuzzy test. i got a new ATI x800 gt that only has DVI. i am using the ATI 5.8 drivers. help please!

I have tried running 852x480, reported by Windows, but when testing the image to see if it really is output to the monitor in that resolution, it isn't.
Have anyone actually verified that they are getting 1366x768, and not 1360x768? I wouldn't trust the Windows resolution list when using a custom resolution.

Folks,
I have a 6600GT. My projector supports 1386x788. I was trying that resolution and it doesn't display properly. So, I tried the 1366x768 and that doesn't work either. My projector just displays only half the screen and that too it shows lot of diagonal lines etc.

To begin with, I tried to add the resolutioun via nVidia drivers, I can add the resolution. However, I cannot change the timings later, that button is disabled. I read somewhere that it happens if the timing info chip is internally located. Will driver update change that? I have 71.24 as Forceware version.

So I tried the powerstrip way as per JGene's instructions and that didn't work either same results...

My projector has Display mode as "Computer" and "Video GBR". I was trying this in computer mode.

Help is sincerely appreciated.

I am going nuts with this DVI issue. Could it be my cable is the wrong kind? I am using this cable:

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16812189047

Any input ?


Folks,
I have a 6600GT. My projector supports 1386x788. I was trying that resolution and it doesn't display properly. So, I tried the 1366x768 and that doesn't work either. My projector just displays only half the screen and that too it shows lot of diagonal lines etc.

To begin with, I tried to add the resolutioun via nVidia drivers, I can add the resolution. However, I cannot change the timings later, that button is disabled. I read somewhere that it happens if the timing info chip is internally located. Will driver update change that? I have 71.24 as Forceware version.

So I tried the powerstrip way as per JGene's instructions and that didn't work either same results...

My projector has Display mode as "Computer" and "Video GBR". I was trying this in computer mode.

Help is sincerely appreciated.

To begin with, I tried to add the resolutioun via nVidia drivers, I can add the resolution. However, I cannot change the timings later, that button is disabled. I read somewhere that it happens if the timing info chip is internally located. Will driver update change that? I have 71.24 as Forceware version.


I think you need to switch to the resolution you added in order to use the Advanced Timings button.

I think you need to switch to the resolution you added in order to use the Advanced Timings button.

I tried switching to the new custom resolution, however, it doesn't work. Either I get 1/4 of the screen filled or no display at all.. So automatically reverts back to 1280x720

I am going nuts with this DVI issue. Could it be my cable is the wrong kind? I am using this cable:

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16812189047


I'm running 1366x768@56Hz on my Sony HS10 projector from an ATI X800pro using a similar cable (DVI-D) with no issues, the image is crystal clear.
To do so I use powerstrip and Catalyst 5.3 (which states the resolution is 1368x768@60Hz but the pj confirms it receives 1366x768@56Hz). I've tried using later versions of Catalyst but they don't work with powerstrip and I can't get them produce the right resolution for the HS10.

Has anyone had any success using 5.8 with a HS10/20 projector or any device that requires an odd refresh rate?

I'm running 1366x768@56Hz on my Sony HS10 projector from an ATI X800pro using a similar cable (DVI-D) with no issues, the image is crystal clear.
To do so I use powerstrip and Catalyst 5.3 (which states the resolution is 1368x768@60Hz but the pj confirms it receives 1366x768@56Hz). I've tried using later versions of Catalyst but they don't work with powerstrip and I can't get them produce the right resolution for the HS10.

Has anyone had any success using 5.8 with a HS10/20 projector or any device that requires an odd refresh rate?

What display mode are you running it as on your projector? The DVI connection has "Computer" or "Video GBR" as options. For Computer option the 1280x720 option only fills 3/4th of the screen, if I go higher resolution then I get half the screen. However, with Video GBR it shows the entire screen with overscanning (even at 1280x720). So, just confused what this Video GBR really means. Should I be going with "Computer" option or "Video GBR"?

If you set the HS20 to computer mode then the scaler will be bypassed which is why when you send 720p, you have a black area on the screen. This is the input mode you need to get 1:1.
On my projector the input OSD says "Digital / Computer"

Now you need to get your nvidia card to display 1368x768@56Hz. Here's what I found with a quick search:

"Download the most recent drivers then uncheck hide resolutions monitor cannot support. Then add a res of 1024x768 at 56hz. Then when in that rez go into the create a custom resolution mode and change nothing but the 1024. Make it 1368."

I have a Sharp LC-3700 which is the industrial version of the 37" Aquos LCD.

When I use VGA, I can get 1360x768, 1366x768 and 1368x768. However, because my XT800 GT graphics card only has DVI output, I need to use the DVI->VGA adapter and I get ghosting of sharp edges.

When I use DVI, I can get 1360x768 *BUT* only if I select the "Scale image to panel size" option under Display Properties->Advanced->Displays->Attributes.

That stretches the 1360 image to 1366, and some text are slightly fuzzy because of that. When using VGA I can get 1360 with 3 black pixels on each side.

So I can either:
1. Use VGA and get ghosting along edges.
2. Use DVI and get my 1360 stretched to 1366 with slight fuzziness.

Both options suck!

Any idea how I can get pixel-perfect mapping using DVI???

I have a Sharp LC-3700 which is the industrial version of the 37" Aquos LCD.

When I use VGA, I can get 1360x768, 1366x768 and 1368x768. However, because my XT800 GT graphics card only has DVI output, I need to use the DVI->VGA adapter and I get ghosting of sharp edges.

When I use DVI, I can get 1360x768 *BUT* only if I select the "Scale image to panel size" option under Display Properties->Advanced->Displays->Attributes.

That stretches the 1360 image to 1366, and some text are slightly fuzzy because of that. When using VGA I can get 1360 with 3 black pixels on each side.

So I can either:
1. Use VGA and get ghosting along edges.
2. Use DVI and get my 1360 stretched to 1366 with slight fuzziness.

Both options suck!

Any idea how I can get pixel-perfect mapping using DVI???


I suspect the ghosting is not due to the DVi->VGA adapter, but the analog VGA cable you are using.

Try a high quality, well shielded analog VGA cable.

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I suspect the ghosting is not due to the DVi->VGA adapter, but the analog VGA cable you are using.

Try a high quality, well shielded analog VGA cable.

Hi Rgb,

My cable is okay because my previous graphics card had a VGA out and I did not get any ghosting with the same cable.

I put my nose up to the screen and looked REAL closely too, no ghosting at all. Quite surprising as I've always felt that VGA input is inferior (I use the DVI output for my projector).

Thanks...

Hi Rgb,

My cable is okay because my previous graphics card had a VGA out and I did not get any ghosting with the same cable.

I put my nose up to the screen and looked REAL closely too, no ghosting at all. Quite surprising as I've always felt that VGA input is inferior (I use the DVI output for my projector).

Thanks...

Sounds like your cable is OK, then.

Have you tried a different DVI/VGA adapter?

Good question; I don't think I've tried another DVI adapter. I'll try it with my wife's Powerbook and see.

From reading the forums of Entechtaiwan, the creators of Powerstrip, I have found out that the Geforce 6/7 supports resolutions not divideable by 8, through DVI-D. Not through analog or DVI-A. The new ATI X1000 series also has better support that any other card, for outputting resolutions such as 852x480 or 1366x768. The new thing is, it uses pixels, not pixels words, which means resolutions can be more fineadjusted.

I previously used a Radeon 9800 with powerstrip to output 1368X768 to my 32" sharp. Sold that and now use a 6600GT in a newly-made HTPC :)

Unfortunately there was no way I could get a proper output with the 6600GT. I ended up getting a DVI Detective to act like my Dell 24". It's still not perfect but close enough - I'm not entirely sure what is being output but I have a small amount of pan. The desktop reads at 1372X768 and there is a one pixel black line on either side of the sharp. Close enough for me though - the screen is filled at 1 to 1 pixels which makes for great looking movies (Nvidia decoders + ffdshow).

Hi Nex,

It sounds like you may not be getting 1-to-1 pixel mapping.

Look at this image on your screen, and drag it around to make sure the entire screen is okay. If you are not getting 1-to-1 pixel mapping, you will see severe banding in the image.

http://www.marky.com/files/hometheater/testpatterns/tracking-and-phase.gif

Thanks bryan_chow you were right. Finally got it working though.

I find the nvidia driver very troublesome when trying to add custom resolutions. Firstly it doesn't allow me to add a custom resolution although custom resolutions sometimes *appear* in the selection. When using the advanced timings dialogue what you see is not necessarily what you get. For example, I tried 1368 and my TV wouldn't display a signal. I then tried 1360 and my TV recognized and displayed a 1360 signal yet the advanced timing dialogue still listed the resolution as 1368. I re-start the computer and the GPU reverts to 1368 (no signal on TV) and lists 1368 in the resolution selection even though I never added it. Finally after many restarts I was able to achieve 1360 and using the TV's fine-tuning, 1X1. What a pain though. I wish nvidia would take the bugs out of their driver!

Same for me, on my 37" Sharp Aquos. I could not get 1-to-1 with DVI-D. With VGA I could only get 1-1 with 1360x768, with 3 unused pixels on each side. It was very hard trying to get 1-to-1 using the driver and Powerstrip. But then I realized I just needed to use the auto-sync option on the TV's setup and it got it right away.

I just purchased a Sharp LC-37DB5U.
I have an Nvidia 6200 gforce display adapter.

I create a custom resolution of 1368 x 768. When I apply it, the screen becomes unreadable and I am unable to go further. My tv doesn't seem to have an Auto-Sync feature in the options menu.

Is anybody using this tv with this display adapter?

Thanks...Josh

Maybe 1360 would work?

On my sharp (32") the "fine sync" and "auto sync" are under the "setup" heading.

thanks for responding.

under my setup menu all I have are

Input label
Position
Picture flip
Standby Mode
Language

Do I need to get in the service menu or something?

JOsh

Are you using component inputs? If so you will only be able to input regular HD signals AFAIK.

Edit (same with HDMI)

I'm using a dvi to hdmi cable. DVI from the 6200 to HDMI input on the tv. Is this not correct?

You'll have to search to see if the HDMI will accept anything other than standard HDTV resolutions. You might not be able to get 1 X 1.

Your video card should have no trouble outputting 720p

So you are saying my Sharp tv may not accept custom resolutions on the HDMI output. I guess if that's the case then I'll have to live with 720p.

720p from the video card looks ok, but I have overscan that hides enough of the screen to be annoying.

fixed the overscan.

On my 37" Sharp I was only able to get a 1-1 pixel mapping with 1360x768, and only on the analog VGA input.

I've got a Panny TH-50PHD8UK and going to buy X1600 Pro AGP for my HTPC.

Card has DVI-I and DB-15 output.
Yamaha Receiver has HDMI and Component input.
Panny has HDMI and VGA (DB-15) input.

What connection should I be using for:
gaming?
MCE 2005 functions (video, photo)
computing use (surf, email, applications)

fixed the overscan.

How did you fix the overscan? I'm currently using an nvidia GeForce4 MX 4000 DVI out to HDMI in on my 32" Sharp Aquos. The overscan is driving me crazy.

Any help would be great.

Hi,

Just bought a Sharp 37"G2H, (same as G1H, just speakers on both sides). I personally think the G series (aisa model naming) is good, cause the tunner and all that are in AVC box. Which means less heat for the panel :) Anyway, i can't get it deliveried until i tidy up my living room :p

I currently using the crappy ATI 9100 on my pc. Will definitely build a more powerful pc in near future for HD... I know my display card can output 1360x768, but after reading this thread, I think I will choose 1368x768 (dot-to-dot) if i can. I just want to ask what refresh rate should i use for this resolution? I guess 60Hz should be the "default"(!?), but is 70Hz or 75Hz possible?

Anyone think that ATI is better than Nvidia. Just read a review on comparing the latest cards for playing 1080p. It seems ATI is still better but needs more cpu power...

As far as I know, no Sharp panel of 1366x768 will take its native resolution... does yours have a DVI or just HDMI? VGA? Give it a try and report back, I'm definitely interested in the outcome!

I'm able to get 1-to-1 pixel mapping using 1360x768 resolution via the VGA port (can't get it to work via DVI). This is on a 37" Sharp LCD.

Which model #?

Which model #?

Sharp LC-3700 which is the industrial version of the 37" Aquos LCD. It's about 2.5 years old.

Thanks!

Isochroma,

My friend and the sales told me that direct connection with DVI right to the panel without going through the AVC box should always result in dot-to-dot resolution. So mine should accept 1360x768, but i still haven't tidy up my living room, doh... I cannot find the manual for my model LC-37G2H online, but I find one really similar from uk LC-37GD1E, the only visible difference is the uk one has scarts, and its speaker is at the bottom.

Anyway, to my surprise, the pc compatibility chart in the manual says it supports 1366x768 (H-48.4kHz, V-60Hz). So, may be I don't need a DVI switch after all. Will keep you posted :)

The model I just bought is really old too, just the price is fair and i want a bigger lcd "monitor" :p

Need help from you experts

Connect my comp to avc box in DVI, 1280x768 is good in full mode, watched spider-man 2 a bit, cool. But when I try to display 1360x768 in dot-to-dot with AVC @resolution 1366x768. It displays in almost full screen, but I got "sliding desktop" just like what chmilar has mentioned before. And Auto-sync doesn't work, always stopped at 90%!!

AVC box settings :
- PC Digital (Option - Input Select)
- 1366x768 (Setup - Input Signal)
- Dot-to-Dot (Wide)

PC (ATI - 9100)
- 1360x768

I think it's the EDID thing, which tells me the max resolution of the panel is 1280x1024. Thus the sliding desktop @ 1360x768. Which is probably mentioned before!! Is there anyway to overcome that?

Need help from you experts

Connect my comp to avc box in DVI, 1280x768 is good in full mode, watched spider-man 2 a bit, cool. But when I try to display 1360x768 in dot-to-dot with AVC @resolution 1366x768. It displays in almost full screen, but I got "sliding desktop" just like what chmilar has mentioned before. And Auto-sync doesn't work, always stopped at 90%!!


Try using VGA. DVI didn't work for me either.

thanks bryan_chow,

yeah, VGA works fine, but my friend said that DVI should display more accurate color and all that. At least I don't have to keep re-sync the panel, I found out that I have to re-sync after the panel has warmed up!!

I also tried connect my pc to straight to panel with DVI, however, I cannot get anything to display!! AND I screwed up my display card, I cannot use the DVI on my display card to output digital signal, but analog is fine!!! Really strange...

Hi Totalz,

Yes in theory DVI will provide a better picture, with no degradation between your PC and display. Since it looks like you can either have pixel-to-pixel mapping with analog, or stretched video with digital, you will have to decide which looks better to you. If you plan to display computer text, then most likely analog will look better.

If you want to ensure a digital signal via DVI, use a DVI-D cable instead of a DVI-I cable. A DVI-D cable does not have the 4 pins around the flat "pin" (see http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html for pictures). A DVI-D cable transmits only digital video. A DVI-I cable can transmit both analog and digital signals, and which one gets transmitted depends on the handshaking between the device and display.

Hi Totalz,

Yes in theory DVI will provide a better picture, with no degradation between your PC and display. Since it looks like you can either have pixel-to-pixel mapping with analog, or stretched video with digital, you will have to decide which looks better to you. If you plan to display computer text, then most likely analog will look better.

If you want to ensure a digital signal via DVI, use a DVI-D cable instead of a DVI-I cable. A DVI-D cable does not have the 4 pins around the flat "pin" (see http://www.datapro.net/techinfo/dvi_info.html for pictures). A DVI-D cable transmits only digital video. A DVI-I cable can transmit both analog and digital signals, and which one gets transmitted depends on the handshaking between the device and display.

Bryan,

Why analog is better on display computer text? I think if I can by-pass the EDID info, I should able to do 1360x768 in digital!! But I cannot further test the tv with DVI-D cause I screwed up the DVI port on my display card! Do you have to Auto-Sync again after switching to other input then back to PC?

Yes, I'm pretty aware of the DVI plug spec, and it's pretty hard to find a DVI-I cable, at least for me ;)

Do you know any thread in avs that's discussing the Sharp 37", I don't seem to find any.

thanks mate :)

Hi Totalz,

I don't mean analog is better for displaying computer text. What I meant was - "pixel-perfect analog" is better than "non-pixel-perfect digital" when displaying computer text. Of course, if you can get pixel-perfect output via DVI digital that will be best.

Here is a good test:

http://archive.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=90884

No I don't need to auto-sync after switching inputs.

Hi Bryan,

Thanks for the quick reply. But I think if you cannot get yours to display 1360x768 in digital, I don't think I have much chance either.

About the test, can I just load that picture as background and use auto-sync? Will that do me any good?

Have you tried to play with the RS232 port to control the tv by computer? And when you display 1360x768 in analog after auto-sync, do you have 6 vertical pixel bars on the right, not 3 for each side?

Gooday :)

Hi Totalz,

I don't think loading the picture as the background and performing an auto-sync will make a difference.

No I have not tried controlling it via RS232. I'm okay with the image I'm getting via VGA (after I gave up trying to get it to work with DVI-D).

My image is centered, with 3 black pixels on the left and right which is completely unnoticeable.

Hi Bryan,

Strange, after I auto sync, the screen is align to the left. And when I use fine tune to move to the right, I only got 3 vertical lines left... and I'm outputing 1360x768, really confusing...

Don't worry too much about whether there are 3 pixels to the left or right. It's invisible from the viewing distance. Just test with the pixel-perfect test picture. If it looks fine then you're ok.

OK, sorry for the bumping (and forgive me if this has been covered, but I only read through half of this here at work).

I have a 9800 pro on my machine hooked up through VGA to my 50PHD8UK. The available resolution SHOULD be 1366x768, but I seem to only be able to select the standard resolutions OR a weird 1366x806 (I have NO idea why!) I would like to remedy this, as scaling the signal cuts off the top and bottom of the display!

Any clues as to what drivers/powertools I should be looking for?

TIA!

Look for 1360x768 or 1368x768. 1366 is not divisible by 8 so Windows can't use it directly.

Well, story is, I updated the video drivers and installed the ATI control panel and now the 1360x768 resolution is available.

The strange thing is, why was there a 1366x806 resolution available? This seems kind of odd to me, as neither are divisible by 8 and neither is their product (1,100,996).

On the upside, the test pattern worked really well to calibrate the 1 to 1 pixelation and adjust the phase shift. The image is CRYSTAL now (it was not bad before, but my method did not allow easy calibration of clock cycle/phase, so...).

Also, on something liek teh Panasonic, what is an ideal refresh rate? I can set the monitor to be whatever rate I like (within reason) and tehre does not seem to be much of a phase/strobing issue with it at 60 HZ but I would like to get your opinion...

Thanks for the help guys (from current to previous responses).

My tv spec is 1366x768 like most of you guys. But when i select 1080i in the nvidia pannel and overscan to fit the HDTV. Its set at 1768x992 60hz i can read the text perfectly and everything seem fine! Also i can manually select 1920x1080 but it doesnt fit the TV unless i use overscan like i just explained.

My question is why the native support is 1366x768 and i can use higher setting ??
Can it damage the HDTV ??

Please someone answer me.

Setting:Asus 7900GTX DVI > HDMI cable LC3260N HP 32"

My guess is that it does not damage teh TV, but that your TV is doing a downscailing from your computers HDTV output to its own native resolution.

Try out the test pattern that was linked to earlier and try using the technique he described. You may be able to see things clearly, but with a non 1to1, it is just which transcriber you get the best result from (either your computer will change the resolution of your HD video, or your TV will...)

Hi, Im going to upgrade an old pc with a new grapic card and would like to have some advise. Its a P4 2.8GHz AGP and will be connected to a 1366x768 LCD by DVI-D.

I would prefeer the ATI x1650 over GF 7600Gs because of the lower CPU utilization when watching movies, but it must send out 1366 (not 1360, my LCD will upscale) through DVI.

So, can someone please verify if some of those card can send this resolution, or recomend other card?

Thanks!

If your LCD can do 1:1 mapping, 1360 will not scale...you'll just lose 3 rows on each side. I don't know what drivers would allow 1366, but a brand new XFX7950GT w/93.71 still won't allow 1366 natively.

P

Polypro,

You should be able to define a custom timing that uses flat panel scaling to get 1366x768 with that card.

The caveat is it will only work over DVI/HDMI.

Good to know.

Thanks,

P

Is 1366x768 (1360 or 1368) possible on Sony KDL-46s2010 over DVI-HDMI ?

FWIW, I have a Panasonic commercial plasma with DVI. I plugged the DVI into our HTPC, which has an Abit NF-M2 mobo with integrated Nvidia 6150 graphics. I checked the resolutions offered to me, and lo and behold, 1366x768 was one of my options! Pleased as punch! (Interestingly, before the plasma came, I was using a Gateway 22" LCD with the weird resolution of 1680x1050, and one of the resolutions offered to me with that device plugged in was 1680x1050!!)

With respect to some of the other questions here:

1) In general, you can always use a higher resolution than the native resolution your display supports, and the display will just scale it down. For instance, giving a display 1080i even if it's 1366x768 is OK. Generally, your display should have a list of resolutions that are supported. If you try to give it a resolution that's too high (i.e., one that it doesn't support), you won't damage the display, it simply won't show a picture on the screen.

2) I may be wrong, but I had always thought that HDMI only accepted 480p/720p/1080i/1080p (and 480i in some cases) -- and that you couldn't use other resolutions like 1366x768, etc.

on page 88 of nvidia 93.71 driver release note, it specifically says they added support for non-standard mode 1366x768 and 1680x1050.

on page 88 of nvidia 93.71 driver release note, it specifically says they added support for non-standard mode 1366x768 and 1680x1050.


Thanks.. Then I will go for a Nvidia card because I understand that the x1600 dont offer this resolution on DVI?

You realy do not need an expensive card for just video playback.

I believe you would do fine with a generic DVI PCI-E or AGP card and a decent ammount of memory on your motherboard.

Check out Tomshardware for a good comparison of vid cards.

Ninjahedge is correct. I was using an 8+ year old video card in one of our HTPC's until last year, which i upgraded for other reasons. There was no issue with video playback, including DVD's and Divx.

Hey guys, need some help, I'm having a hard time understanding all this.

I have this video card: ATI 9200, 128 mb "All in wonder" card. I want to buy a 26" Vizio LCD, which has a resolution of 1366x768.

Now, in my properties of my video card, I can only find 1360x768. IF I hook it up with my settings like this, will it be clear. I'm new at this and just want to be sure it will look right?

I copied this from the manual online.

http://www.burtmanindustries.com/images/xyz/lcd_res.jpg

http://www.vizio.com/media/products/pdfs/VW26LManual.pdf

Yes it should work (but it depends on your LCD as well). I'm using 1360x768 on my sharp and there are 3 columns of black pixels on each side which is not noticeable.

Ok, I bought the Visio 26" with native res of 1366x768. I set my ATI card for 1360x768 the closest I have. It does not look right!!! I see less on the screen than I did with my 17" sqaure LCD. I don't get it. Everything is much bigger, my email program gets cutoff and I see less of my in/out box, everything it too big.

If I change the resolution to 1360x1024, it helps images and my email program, but text is fuzzy, and print looks weird.

Here is what my screen looks like on a square 17" LCD monitor (http://www.burtmanindustries.com/images/xyz/17_1280_1024.jpg)

Here is what my screen looks like on a the widescreen 26" LCD monitor (http://www.burtmanindustries.com/images/xyz/26_1360_768.jpg)

What can I do to get this 26" monitor to look right??? I don't want to see less area with this bigger monitor. Help.

Does your set have various display modes? Look for something like "1:1 Mode" or "Pixel Perfect"...not Stretch, Zoom, etc...

P

No, it doesn't seem to. The manual is here:

http://www.vizio.com/media/products/pdfs/VW26LManual.pdf

I had the same issues on my Hitachi 32" LCD. I used powerstrip for some time, but it would not always be stable. The solution I found was to force windows (xp) to use a different monitor driver. The one that worked for me was the SONY-GDM-FW900 (it comes with xp). This automatically allowed me to pick 1370x768 using the Nvidia drivers (not sure if this works with ATI) the only changes I had to do was with the flat panel settings. I now get 1-1 mapping (this has been tested with various test patterns) and is fully stable. Games pick up this resultion happily (for those games that don't lock your resolutions).

Using: XLobby with Zoomplayer, ffdshow + Purevideo over DVI with 7800 GTS

My plasma TV's (Maxent 50") manual states that it will support a 1366X768 resolution through RGB (VGA). 1360 or 1368X768 are not listed as being supported resolutions. So I'm trying to find the cheapest video card I can get that will perform well (no games just video files) and be able to use a resolution of 1366X768. From reading this thread it seems like Nvidea will do so if I use the above mentioned driver. Which cards will work with this driver?

THX

Ok, I bought the Visio 26" with native res of 1366x768. I set my ATI card for 1360x768 the closest I have. It does not look right!!! I see less on the screen than I did with my 17" sqaure LCD. I don't get it. Everything is much bigger, my email program gets cutoff and I see less of my in/out box, everything it too big.

If I change the resolution to 1360x1024, it helps images and my email program, but text is fuzzy, and print looks weird.

Here is what my screen looks like on a square 17" LCD monitor (http://www.burtmanindustries.com/images/xyz/17_1280_1024.jpg)

Here is what my screen looks like on a the widescreen 26" LCD monitor (http://www.burtmanindustries.com/images/xyz/26_1360_768.jpg)

What can I do to get this 26" monitor to look right??? I don't want to see less area with this bigger monitor. Help.

Just look at your resolutions. Your screenshots look right.

You get a wider screen at 1360 than you got at 1280, but you will get a shorter screen at 768 than you do at 1024.

1366x768 = 1.05MP
1280x1024=1.31MP

Your 17 inch screen will get better resolution.

Now, if you want to change it a bit, you can do a few things. One is to right click your desktop, select "properties", "Appearance", "Advanced". Select an item, any item in the item scrollbox. If you see the font size and type pop up, then you can change that size.

Also, under "settings" and "Advanced" you can set your system font size (what all your system messages will display at).

You can make that smaller too (say 72 dpi rather than 96 as standard).

You will get slightly chunkier letters and numbers on your larger screen due to the lower resolution, but since your screen is larger, you will be able to read them better.

Edit:
BTW, when you chose 1360x1024 you are smushing it vertically. It is taking 1024 pixels and trying to fit them into 768 open slots. You will get banding and blurring as a result.

The screen dump doesn't show whether you are getting a 1-1 pixel mapping.

After setting resolution to 1360x768, go into the TV's configuration and see if there is some kind of adjust or auto adjust function. On my Sharp that will cause the TV to scan the input and match it 1-1. Also, on my Sharp, I can only get 1-1 using VGA instead of DVI input.

Pretty sure you cant do this with nvidia or ati as 1366 is not a multiple of 8. I have a sharp lcd with the same resolution and the best i can do is either 1360x768 using standard drivers, or 1368x768 with powerstrip. I use the latter with DVI which means i have 1 pixel overscan either side but is pixel perfect. (I'm using ATI but think the same applies to nvidia)

RD
How can I get this setting on an ATI?

Has anyone attempted doing a custom resolution with the new Pioneer plasmas? In the manual it only lists 1360x768 as the closest resolution accepted. The native resolution is 1365x768. I have mine set to 1360x768 but I get a tiny line down the side of the screen.

Has anyone attempted doing a custom resolution with the new Pioneer plasmas? In the manual it only lists 1360x768 as the closest resolution accepted. The native resolution is 1365x768. I have mine set to 1360x768 but I get a tiny line down the side of the screen.

I threw in the towel and went back to an external player like a Linkplayer. Never did find anyone with a solid answer.

I read through some of the suggestions earlier in this thread. I did not mess with any of the clock settings but when I went into the NVidia Custom resolutions I hit to create a new one and tried 1368x768 and hit the "Test" button and it gave an Error. I also tried 1365x768 and got the same result. Then I tried to input a resolution I knew worked and hit Test and it worked so to me this seems to mean that the Pioneer Plasmas will not accept custom resolutions. If pioneer made it work this way I would assume the small black line does not damage the panel. It is not noticeable at all from my viewing distance I was only trying to fill the screen because of plasmas IR potential. Is this a non-issue that I should not be worried about?

not addressed to any specific poster, but this constant whining about 1366 vs 1360 is really ridiculous. you can spend 5 minutes total of time and, without powerstrip or any other add-on, get 1360 x 768 pixel-for-pixel. the 3 pixel width black bars on each side of the screen are indistinguishable from the black frame.

i know- i'm staring at it right now.

i'm beginning to think that some of you think you are "losing" those 3 pixels somehow.

Nvidia
NVidias recent driver release notes specifically lists 1366x768 as a supported resolution, so no extra program should be needed IF the TV provides correct EDID information.

Source: pixelmapping.wikispaces.com/Guide+to+1366x768

There is no date on that article, so it 'could' be new?

Anyone tried it yet?

Do NVIDIA based graphics cards support 1366x768,1380x768, or 1366x1024 resolution PLASMA/LCD (HDTV) displays?

NVIDIA GPUs can now support horizontal timings that are not evenly divisible by eight. However, such resolutions (example H .1366 x V. 768) must be included within the Displays EDID* firmware. If your display manufacturer has neglected this support the best solution is to use the HDTV/DISPLAY as they intended by using a 480P, 720P, or 1080i display configuration now provided by the Forceware Release 60 and above reference driver. Please see the link below for more information regarding general HDTV display support.

nvidia.com/object/consumer_electronic_display_ready.html

->Note that GeForce 7, GeForce 6, and GeForceFX series GPUs can support HDTVs with internal on chip TMDS* via DVI/HDMI connectors with the latest Release 70 or above reference driver.
nvidia.com/content/drivers/drivers.asp <-

Source: nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=143&p_created=1100037537&p_sid=OkN*POOi&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_lva=&p_sp=cF9zcmNoPTEmcF9zb3J0X2J5PSZwX2dyaWRzb3J0PSZwX3Jvd19jbnQ 9MSZwX3Byb2RzPTAmcF9jYXRzPTAmcF9wdj0mcF9jdj0mcF9zZWFyY2hfdHl wZT1hbnN3ZXJzLnNlYXJjaF9ubCZwX3BhZ2U9MSZwX3NlYXJjaF90ZXh0PTE zNjY*&p_li=&p_topview=1

I just checked the release notes for the latest 163.1 XP Nvidia drivers:

General Mode Support Information
The NVIDIA graphics driver includes a standard list of display modes that are
supported by default. These modes are listed in the section “Default Modes Supported
by GPU for Windows XP” on page 47.
The actual modes available depend on the capabilities of the display. In addition, the
NVIDIA graphics driver has a “dynamic EDID detection” capability and will make
available additional modes that are listed in the display EDID, provided the graphics
hardware can support it.
The NVIDIA graphics driver also supports the high resolutions available with the
displays listed in Table A.1 as well as the non-standard modes listed in Table A.2.
Table A.1 Modes Supported for High Resolution Displays
Display
Maximum
Resolution Hardware Requirements
Apple 30” Cinema HD
Display (Dual link DVI)
2560x1600
@ 60 Hz
• All high-end NVIDIA Quadro FX
graphic solutions.
Dell WFP 3007
(Dual Link DVI)
2560x1600
@ 60 Hz
• All High-end NVIDIA Quadro FX
graphic solutions.
Table A.2 Non-standard Modes Supported
Resolution
1680 x 1050
1366 x 768

I just checked the release notes for the latest 163.1 XP Nvidia drivers:


Wow thats great news - just weeks after many new plasmas feature 1365x768 resolution.

So what plasmas can actually accept that resolution? From what I have tested my Pio can not. If someone else can find a way I would love to hear it.

The NVIDIA new drivers allow you to choose ANY custom size you want within the graphic card's maximum limits.

Its from the 6000 series onwards will be able to do it.

This function has been available since last year 2006 :D Dunno why no one has mentioned it here....

I think it was mentioned earlier in this thread. I have a 6600GT running 1365x768 to my NEC plasma over HDMI.

FWIW, the new Nvidia control panel for custom resolutions is horrible. I'm running older drivers that still support the classic control panel. It's a much better interface.

Care to post screenshots of this old style control panel? Just to understand differences.Do NVIDIA based graphics cards support 1366x768,1380x768, or 1366x1024 resolution PLASMA/LCD (HDTV) displays?

NVIDIA GPUs can now support horizontal timings that are not evenly divisible by eight. However, such resolutions (example H .1366 x V. 768) must be included within the Displays EDID* firmware. If your display manufacturer has neglected this support the best solution is to use the HDTV/DISPLAY as they intended by using a 480P, 720P, or 1080i display configuration now provided by the Forceware Release 60 and above reference driver. Please see the link below for more information regarding general HDTV display support.I don't understand... I connect my 7300GT to my Lumagen scaler with DVDI, using passthrough I then go out with VGA to my Panasonic plasma that supposedly accept its native res of 1366x768 through the VGA input. It supposedly should be able to do 50 and 72 Hz at this resolution.

The control panel allows me to create a custom res of 1366x768 even if the Lumagen's EDID is not giving that information. How can this fit with the above information?
Furthermore, when you change refresh rate do the custom timings change?

One thing to check.

Do you have the screen-saving "wobble" feature turned on on your plasma?

I believe that reduces your workable space (I think some TV's may not be able to use the entire space if you turn this on).

I remember hooknig up the laptop and gettnig different resolutions available almost each time I did it, but I could never get more than the 1360 when "wobble" was on.

6 pixels, at the border, will not do much, provided you have already broken your screen in.

Keep it on low contrast and brightness and play stuff that fills the screen for the first 100 hours or so and you should be fine. The 3 pixels of black on either side (using screen adjust) should not even be noticable, or cause much of a non-burn contrast issue later on with your full-screen signals.

One thing to check.

Do you have the screen-saving "wobble" feature turned on on your plasma?

I believe that reduces your workable space (I think some TV's may not be able to use the entire space if you turn this on).

I remember hooknig up the laptop and gettnig different resolutions available almost each time I did it, but I could never get more than the 1360 when "wobble" was on.

6 pixels, at the border, will not do much, provided you have already broken your screen in.

Keep it on low contrast and brightness and play stuff that fills the screen for the first 100 hours or so and you should be fine. The 3 pixels of black on either side (using screen adjust) should not even be noticable, or cause much of a non-burn contrast issue later on with your full-screen signals.

Thanks for your suggestions. Unfortunately with my Pioneer plasma it locks a 5 pixel wide line in on the side of the screen that will not shift using the screen adjust. Also the "wobble" feature in the Pioneer is called The Orbiter. There is no Orbiter option when in PC mode.

There is no Orbiter option when in PC mode.:eek: Wow. This is really retarded. PC use is the most needful of orbiting/wooble, what with the menu bars, sidebars, etc. Not enabling it doesn't make any sense at all.

Care to post screenshots of this old style control panel? Just to understand differences.

I'll try and remember to do that tonight. I think there was a screenshot of it posted either early in this thread or one in the plasma forum. I'll see if I can find that one.

Found it.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=7184461&postcount=1304

I know the Panasonic has the wobble. It is more noticable on Animation or fixed desktops than it is with live action and/or analog signals.

I can't believe that it does not allow any screen adjust either! Is there any little hidden toggle you might have switched off (like "advanced" mode?)

Also, look at your screen settings on the computer, see if it has a way to "adjust" where the screen is being put up (some have it, some don't).

I would also recommend that you try a dual monitor thing with the computer until you get everything setup. It makes it a lot easier to put in all the settings, then swap over to the Plasma being primary and disconnecting the smaller screen.

GL!

Hi GL,

There is a screen position adjust but it is only on the VGA input. Not only that but the black line I described does not shift with the rest of the screen. It is just locked in place and if I shift the screen that direction is just cuts off more of the picture. It looks like an extension of the black border around the screen and is hard to notice unless you are very close to it.

I get a much better picture with the HDMI input and there is no screen adjust (not that it works anyway) on those. Once you feed it a PC resolution on the HDMI input is locks into "PC mode" and a lot of options go away including the Orbiter. I have gotten the same results attempting to adjust the screen in NVidia properties which tells me that the Pioneer is putting that line there. I think it will be ok because I broke my plasma in properly but I would love to find a way to feed it a custom resolution so that it fills the screen perfectly with 1:1. I will contact Pioneer and voice my concerns.

Tommy

Source: pixelmapping.wikispaces.com/Guide+to+1366x768

There is no date on that article, so it 'could' be new?

Anyone tried it yet?Aug 10, 2006 1:04 pm according to the history.

I just experimented and added 1366X768 to the custom resolution.

yes its VERY simple.

I've had problems getting VGA 852x480 with my 6800GT due to limitations of the graphics card. I tried for a long time, but now the machine and card is sold, and upgraded to one with integrated Radeon X1200.
With PowerStrip, I added the resolution 852x480 and now clarity is much improved. Running 848x480 has never locked on perfectly. Sure it was okay, but this is a great improvement.
Through DVI, I believe the 6800GT should be able to run resolutions not a multiple of 8.

I know this is an old thread, I apologize for bumping it up, but I can't add a custom resolution for 1366x768 and I'm hoping someone here can point me in the right direction. I have Vista Home Premium SP1, Nvidia 6150 se. I'm using 1360x768 and it looks decent, but I have a black bar on the right side of my screen. I'm up to date on Windows, I've downloaded the latest Nvidia drivers, but I don't seem to have many options. I'd really like to fill this screen out.

The problem is the new control panel.

If you look at the following thread you should be able to define a custom resolution that sticks.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1002622

Not sure it will work in Vista though.

I don't have those reg variables in Vista.

I know how frustrated you are I went thru the same thing. Try going into the nvidia settings. Add a custom resolution, w 1368, h 768, color 32 and 60 hrz then hit add. Then hit advanced timings my settings are as follows

mode and timings: custom values
timing standard: custom values
flat panel scaling: display adapter scaling


First box horizontal pixels

Front porch 48 sync width 112
back porch 248 sync rate 47. 98 (this is locked)
sync polarity + active pixels 1368

second box vertical lines

Front porch 1 sync width 3
back porch 30 sync rate 59.830
sync polarity - active pixels 768

interlaced mode is NOT checked

hit apply then make sure you have that res applied and resync the display. may have to cycle the power on the display also.

hope this helps

OMG, can U help me with my ATI X1050 :confused:
Its native res is 1366x768 but now 1360x768

I'm trying to get the computer to work with a friend's new Vizio 32" TV with 1366 x 768 over component cable from a nVidia 6150 motherboard. Hopefully I can get an answer in this thread, but if anyone has a similar set up please post.

The specs. for the TV are 1366 x 768 at 60Hz
47.55 kHz Hor. Freq. (Positive)
59.81 kHz Vert. Freq. (Positive)
85.50 MHz Pixel Freq.

Well, tried for a couple hours but couldn't figure it out. Anyone wanna help?

Tried with Powerstrip and with Nivia settings. Still get the incorrect size and color on the HDTV screen.

P/S: I'm using LCD monitor 18.5" (max res is 1366x768)