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thegoldenstrand

12-05-07, 12:48 AM

Terry and others,

I am getting some instability with 363.01 "program does not allow drawing" and another that I will need to have happen again to fully describe.. something about program does not support.. and then my pc crashed first time i tried to come to this forum.. have restarted and ok so far.. but.. any ideas? After this happened windows tried to load some kind of kernel fault finding thing at startup.

Specs:

AMD Opteron 185
AMD/ATI 1900 XT
Asus A8R32-MVP
2 GB mushkin Redline at 450, rated at 500
Windows XP SP1

Mike

bigrob

12-05-07, 01:15 AM

I have reinstalled DirectX, and verified there are no problems identified (running dxdiag), but I continue to receive this same error. Any other thoughts on what the issue might be?

TPeterson

12-05-07, 01:30 AM

Rob--

I don't know what's causing that error, but googling it led me to the DViCo Korean site and the crudely translated message seemed to suggest using System Restore to go back to a time before the error appeared. That's worth a try if you have System Restore enabled.

Mike--

Without knowing if and how you can reproduce the error, I'd have to chalk it up to "Windows" and hope that it doesn't return. If you can provide a recipe to make the error let us know and I'll try to get it tracked down.

thegoldenstrand

12-05-07, 01:46 AM

Got error message in multiple windows while watching oceans 13 on digital channel 1030 just now.

message was in multiple boxes accompanied by loud beep like sounds.. I control alt deleted and ended dvico program to stop the noise. System crashed within two minutes of this happening both times. SystemFaultCheck was added by Windows to start up and then some kind of dump prep was added .. ideas?? additionally on some channels like Digital 1030 in SF Bay area, there is a noticeble blurring to the picture. and.. my favorite free channel 1085 does not come in using 3.63.01, but was picked up by 3.50 and earlier versions of software. Any good links to things that should be adjusted, removed or disabled from windows xp pro to make dvico tuner card work and look better? I am removing alternative user input and advanced text under languages stuff right now.

Mike

thegoldenstrand

12-05-07, 07:02 AM

Also turned off advanced text features under language settings.

Still some blockiness to picture on channel 1030, but Cameron Diaz movie late night was good and no more error messages or crashes. :D

bigrob

12-05-07, 01:51 PM

No joy... I don't have a restore point that helps. I have run dxdiag and receive no errors, I have updated DirectX 9 from microsoft, I don't know what else to do to get around this error. It only affects the digital channels.

TPeterson

12-05-07, 02:24 PM

DPlettner

12-05-07, 03:39 PM

I think this is because the default registry key under:
{HKCR}\Applications\FusionHDTV.exe\shell\open\command
=> C:\...\FusionHDTV.exe %1

So if you have saved your recording in a directory path with spaces in it, it will get passed to the FusionHDTV.exe application as muliple arguments, instead of 1 file name.

You can either use a directory path with no spaces (e.g: C:\hdtv\recordings)
Or modify the registry entry to change %1 => "%1" (add double quote around it)
Or use the file open option inside the application.Tran,

Thanks for posting this info.

I have Windows configured to have MyHD handle TP files, and when I want to watch a file using the Fusion software, I right-click on the file and use "Open With". A few weeks ago, this stopped working on both my PCs.

In the Fusion software thread, Chain001 identified Microsoft Security update KB943460 as the culprit. I think he is right. This update was released on Nov. 12, and it affects the way that Universal Resource Identifiers (URIs) are passed to the Windows Shell.

Your fix restored the old behavior, and I can now open a TP file using the Fusion software using "Open With".

Terry: Perhaps you can get Dvico to make this change in future versions of the Fusion software.

-Dave

TPeterson

12-05-07, 05:01 PM

thegoldenstrand

12-05-07, 06:41 PM

Hi,

Looking for where to find a couple things..

Is there some place to find best settings for decoder and video for the dvico fusion hdtv 5 rt and faq's on what should be enabled, made not available, stopped, disabled in windows for best performance of dvico tv tuner?

I have been experimenting.. with 3.63.01... for some reason I am not getting a couple channels, like digital 1085 in sf bay area that I got with 3.50.01.. tested and confirmed I receive on one pc with the 3.50 software and don't receive with the 3.63.. I am running the 3.5 on the express card and 3.63 on the hdtv 5 rt pci card.

Also I am trying to figure best way to configure the tuners for picture quality.. I am trying to reduce some blocking and loss of focus on some digital channels.

For me.. 3.63 improves analog, but not digital so far.

Mike

TPeterson

12-05-07, 06:58 PM

What feed is on your "1085"? My QAM lineup evidently differs from yours. I have no clear QAM on channel 108.

I understand (macro) "blocking", but what is "loss of focus on...digital channels"?

DPlettner

12-05-07, 09:54 PM

Request made just now.

Update: DViCo already had a report of this problem but had not been able to replicate it because they weren't alerted to the connection with the Windows Update item. It will be fixed in the next release.Thanks for the quick confirmation.

I took a look at the same entry for MyHD and the quotes are there, which makes sense since MyHD continued to work properly after the Windows Update.

-Dave

DPlettner

12-05-07, 10:27 PM

Terry,

The fix did not work on my second PC. I did a little digging, and it looks like you need to make the same change in:

{HKCR}\tp_auto_file\shell\open\command

After making the change here, the second PC launches TP files using Open With.

The fix posted by Tran worked great for the first PC, and the quotes were not there for tp_auto_file in the registry of the first PC. It seems odd that my two PCs use different registry entries to launch the Fusion app.

Anyway, hopefully Dvico will make a global change for all the affected registry keys. This probably affects TitanTV scheduling, and launching other types of files, such as MPG and AVI.

-Dave

audionewer

12-05-07, 10:59 PM

i have a laptop.

my laptop spec. :

Windows Vista Ultimate
Intel Core Duo Cpu T2350 @ 1.86GHz
2 GB ram
Moblie Intel 945GM Express Chipset

i was wondering does this laptop works with this tuner "DVICO Fusion 5 HDTV tuner" or not?

thegoldenstrand

12-05-07, 11:05 PM

What feed is on your "1085"? My QAM lineup evidently differs from yours. I have no clear QAM on channel 108.

I understand (macro) "blocking", but what is "loss of focus on...digital channels"?

I am using the same Comcast Cable feed for both. For some reason with the pci card and the 3.63.01 driver I don't get this channel, but with the pci-e Dvico Fusion Express and the 3.50.01 driver.. I get channel 108 and I get it well. I don't know why I get with the 3.50 and not with the 3.63? or could it be the tv tuner card?

What I call focus, might be another instance of macro blocking.. is there any way to minimize or overcome this?

I have set priority to normal-above.. set the pci priority from default 64 to 96 in bios and removed and re-installed the ati drivers... gotten rid of error reporting.. gotten rid of a few other things that interupt.. just looking for some link on how to improve picture.

Mike

TPeterson

12-05-07, 11:26 PM

i was wondering does this laptop works with this tuner "DVICO Fusion 5 HDTV tuner" or not?There's a "demo" file on the DViCo website. Use that to see if your PC is compatible with FusioHDTV sw. The USB unit itself is highly likely to be fine.

TPeterson

12-05-07, 11:48 PM

What I call focus, might be another instance of macro blocking.. is there any way to minimize or overcome this?Yes, with a better quality signal.

Let me try again...I said, "What feed is on your 1085"?

Also, what is the indicated "signal strength" of good and bad channels on the PC with the problem reception?

thegoldenstrand

12-06-07, 01:15 AM

hdtvincr

12-06-07, 09:55 AM

Mike - I think Terry is asking what station you are seeing on 1085 as he is not getting anything there.

bigrob

12-06-07, 10:50 AM

Rob, I'm guessing that your having installed the DViCo MPEG filter for MCE may be connected with this problem. First, I would try to unregister that filter from Windows codecs. (First, try running the DViCo group menu item "Uninstall MCE MPEG2 DECODER". If that doesn't work try this Start|Run command line method (http://msmvps.com/blogs/chrisl/articles/12013.aspx) or Google another one) If that doesn't do it, I would try another episode of KAXKID uninstall-reinstall, making sure to get rid of all traces of the DViCo sw and unregistering the suspect filter following the uninstall step.

I've used the uninstall MCE MPEG2 Decoder and a full episode of the KAXKID uninstall/reinstall, but that has not helped. You mention unregistering the suspect filter, how do I know which filter is the suspect filter? The link you pointed out indicates how to unregister it, which I am fine with but I need to know what the filter name is.

KAXKID

12-06-07, 11:25 AM

I've used the uninstall MCE MPEG2 Decoder and a full episode of the KAXKID uninstall/reinstall, but that has not helped. You mention unregistering the suspect filter, how do I know which filter is the suspect filter? The link you pointed out indicates how to unregister it, which I am fine with but I need to know what the filter name is.

have you tried this method from dvico faq?
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/Eng/Support/FAQInstallation.aspx?act=RD&id=78&pg=0&CATID=10&SCATID=54

TPeterson

12-06-07, 11:49 AM

:eek:

I don't know if I understand what you mean by feed, but it is the same comcast cable service to the same unit.. hooked up the same way.. tested and retested.. the pci-exress fusion with 3.51.00 card gets channel 108 and the pci hdtv 5 rt gold with 3.63.01 does not from the exact same cable with the same service, etc..I'm about to give up here...start answering my questions or I'm done.

Yes, what Tim said is correct, I want to know what station is on your 1085 so that I can compare my results with yours. I also want to know what is the indicated signal strength on the problem channel, for both PCs.

thegoldenstrand

12-06-07, 11:27 PM

I posted because I thought getting a channel with one card or with different version of software and not getting with another card and another version of software might be noteworthy. I am able to receive at least one channel with the Express card that I am not able to receive with the pci Fusion HDTV 5 RT Gold card.

Terry, the feed as you call it.. I think is the Flix channel.. tonight it is showing as 1086.1, last night I received 1085.1 unencrypted with the Express card.

I did a complete clean install of windows, thinking maybe something from Microsoft was interferring with receiving unencrypted channels and showing them to be encrypted, but.. same install.. two cards.. only the Express card gets the extra channel(s).. there is no way for me to measure signal strength on 1085 or 1086 with pci card.. as I don't get anything.. maybe some audio.. but for Express.. it is a 90 or so percent strength signal.

Mike

TPeterson

12-07-07, 12:20 AM

Huh. My mistake...I do have a clear QAM channel on 108. According to the SiliconDust list (http://www.silicondust.com/wiki/hdhomerun/channels), it's 108.8 but FusionHDTV displays it as 1085 for me too.

I suspect that your problem, Mike, is low signal. 90% is the ragged edge for FusionHDTV QAM reception. Nearly all of my channels show up as "100%" and most people find that they get at least the high 90s with good cable connections. Also, that particular channel, being buried amongst so many encrypted ones, is probably a hard one for Fusion to discover in a scan. Did you try manually Adding rf108 set to 256QAM in the FusionHDTV Channel Setup tab? That worked for me. It initially showed in the channel list as service "D108" but after tuning to it once, the listing changed to "1085".

Finally, don't get too attached to watching that channel, because as soon as Comcast discovers their mistake in not encrypting it, it'll be gone. ;)

thegoldenstrand

12-08-07, 10:30 PM

I have seen a couple interesting flicks on flix.. yup.. no doubt those monopolist at comcast will cut the channel out soon.. they charge us a fortune to get cable and still get away with encrypting the hell out of it. Not fair. :mad: It would be nice if the Government was on our side and forced them to send most channels, if not all unencrypted.. but they appear to be in bed together.. take a look at those fees the government gets on your cable bill...

I did try what you suggested.. but then quit.. will try again. I did see it show up as D108 and then 1085.1, but no signal maybe because not strong enough for pci card on 1085.1.. so maybe will get it eventually. Is there anyway to input channel manually as say 1086.1?? I did the channel ad just like you posted but was just wondering if there was some other way.

With exact same cable either connecting it to the one pc or the other.. the Express card does do better. I guess pci-express is route I will go for future cards.

Thanks for your patience with me. :D

Mike

TPeterson

12-08-07, 10:42 PM

PCI-express card does have the latest-model tuner chips. But if you're seeing only "90%" on either card with your cable, you need a better cable signal. Try removing all splitters to get a direct feed from the drop to your house/apt. and see what then gives. If it's still only "90%" (on the local network channels that are supposed to be in the clear) you should get a Comcast tech out there to fix it. I would expect an analog TV to have a pretty noisy picture with such a cable signal also.

bigrob

12-08-07, 10:45 PM

have you tried this method from dvico faq?
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/Eng/Support/FAQInstallation.aspx?act=RD&id=78&pg=0&CATID=10&SCATID=54

Yes, I have tried that. The "Happy Uninstall" shareware I could not use, but I did try everything else as listed, including loading the mentioned mpgsplt.ax file directly into the directory mentioned. Grrrr.

Not sure what else to try at this point...

thegoldenstrand

12-08-07, 10:50 PM

I have tried.. thinking of complaining to Foster City.

These guys will not budge that -9.9 with one splitter, about -6.3 with no splitters is somehow good enough.

My cable strength on 1085.1 is below 90 as you correctly surmised, at 84 percent and db is at 28

and my cable and internet bill is about $100 per month.. Somehow the pci-e card is able to overcome this and get a couple more channels.. I have tried and tried.. they will not increase power to building, only offering amp, which from what I have read would rather avoid if possible. What would you suggest?

:eek:

sengsational

12-09-07, 04:33 PM

What would you suggest? :eek:Call the cable company and tell them you want to quit (when they ask why, tell 'em you don't want to drop that kind of dough for a crappy signal). Take the next $100 you would have spent on cable fees and buy a nice outdoor antenna. Enjoy the big 4 or 5 (whatever you can get) OTA. Take the $100 a month and put it into a 401k. Wait a few years. Retire a year early on the money you didn't spend on cable.

--Dale--

Edit: You might be able to quit after step 1, if they come-around and juice-up your signal. The downside of that scenario is you'd need to work another year.

bigrob

12-10-07, 02:01 AM

Okay, a big thank you to Terry and Kaxkid for your help. I'm back up and running with 3.63.01. I had to manually register the mpg2splt.ax file.

On my laptop, I received a different error (access violation). I was going to the laptop as a last resort since it is graphically less "inspired".

thegoldenstrand

12-11-07, 01:27 PM

Thanks Dale. LOL

I had a tech out today and he said he would see if he could get tap signal strenght boosted by 5 db.. and got the bill reduced.. now $70 versus $105 for next six months.

Hoping to get that stronger signal.

I have an antenna.. square shooter.. but have not been able to pick up many channels.. not even 4 or 5 yet.

lots of buildings and interference where i live.

Mike

TPeterson

12-11-07, 01:52 PM

Mike, you'll need a high-gain (i.e., very directional) antenna up there to pick the Mt. Sutro tower's signals out of the strong multipath signals that you're no doubt sitting in. I suggest a "bow tie" design, even a single-bay bow tie might do the trick--but you may need a quad or an 8-bay version (http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/cm4228.html).

thegoldenstrand

12-12-07, 03:20 AM

Thanks Terry!

Interesting review. Will look into.

Mike

DPlettner

12-12-07, 09:40 AM

Fry's just had a great deal on the 4228 8-Bay at $39.99. Unfortunately the same ended yesterday. IIRC, the regular price is $69.99.

-Dave

Inundated

12-17-07, 10:19 PM

OK, I need to know a possible replacement for my F5USB.

This one is a replacement for one that died a year and change (?) ago. I talked with the company (I believe Digital Connection) about it, and they swapped out a new one for me.

That's worked fine, until now. It is dead, exhibiting the same symptoms as the first one. Plugging in the USB cable, it flashes the blue lights inside the case QUICKLY, like for half a second, then they die. Then, the computer complains "USB Device Has Malfunctioned". It's the same on my downstairs computer and on this laptop.

That's it. I give up. These things apparently only last a certain amount of time before they blow out.

Can anyone give me a similar performance/footprint replacement from another manufacturer? Are the Pinnacle PCTV HD series units any good? By "footprint", I mean one that'll still work on my Pentium M 1.5 GHz laptop with no accelerated video. I realize that's pushing the envelope, but aside from its own design/manufacture problems, the F5USB works on this laptop.

Any input, points to other threads, advice, etc. would be appreciated.

TPeterson

12-18-07, 12:11 AM

I wonder what it is about your laptop's USB port that kills F5USB units? Did you check its +5V level to see if it's high?

FusionHDTV is about the best performer on moderate video hardware that you can find. DViCo has another USB tuner product, called the Nano, but I'm not sure that it's available in the U.S. Otherwise, I see a lot of happy faces on the AutumnWave thread and there's a lot of positive vibration from the HD HomeRun thread, which would work with your laptop if you can play back HDTV files OK using VLC.

Gyvven

12-18-07, 12:28 PM

I've only had my F5 for a few days. The download and install went well, channel scan came up with alot more than I thought it might (mostly empty On-Demand channels). I'm a little disappointed that MCE doesn't support this card individually, and that TitanTV can't schedule digital channels. Oh, well.

My main concern with it is, after completing the scan and weeding out the empty stations, I wanted to add an easy-to-remember identifier to the stations I wanted to keep except that the channel manager won't retain the information. It allows you to edit the name field, but as soon as you hit enter it goes back to what it was before. There are a few stations that came in with names or other info, but the rest are like D6172 or something similar (matching the RF channel id). How can I edit this info quickly and easily? Would getting something like CW_EPG take care of it, or do I need something else?

I appologize if this has been answered before, but I don't care to spend days reading hundreds of pages of posts.

Thanks,
Gyv

TPeterson

12-18-07, 12:41 PM

Yes, CW_EPG would "take care of it"...but then you'd have "to spend days reading hundreds of pages of posts"...so maybe not.

hdtvincr

12-18-07, 02:45 PM

CW_EPG would "take care of it" only within the confines of the CW_EPG app.

It will NOT "take care of" renaming channels within the FusionHDTV app or making them stick after renaming.

TPeterson

12-18-07, 02:59 PM

Actually, the "it" that I meant is that one doesn't need to be concerned at all with whatever FusionHDTV calls those cable channels after having mapped them in CW_EPG. That takes care of the major problem of figuring out which channel you need to specify to record next week's "I Love Lucy" rerun. You still are faced with those meaningless IDs whenever you're using the FusionHDTV app directly, of course...but since I "never" watch live TV, that's not part of my "it". :D

Gyvven

12-18-07, 03:10 PM

Thanks for the fast response TP. I guess as long as I can look at my list of favorites and understand which is which station, that's alright then.

<edit> Crud! I just noticed your additional responses. I guess I'll just have to setup schedules for my favorite shows. Probably a good idea since I can never remember what show is on when and it's blind luck I stumble across them once in a while. <edit>

A comment on something interesting I've noticed that's a bit OT- Is anyone else able to view shows, apparently on-demand or ppv, that have been ordered by another cable customer? I found while scanning my channels it located a few stations that were way out of the normal range, in HD, unencrypted, and not of content you'd expect to see just flipping channels, i.e. adult and The Bourne Supremecy. I figure they were someone's order because the one was gone in 10 minutes, but the bourne channel didn't go blank until after the movie was over and the credits started to roll. I have a QAM tuner in my tv and noticed the same thing on it's initial setup. I haven't checked the databases to verify which stations they are, but I'm pretty certain they're On-Demand sub-channels (probably not PPV because that's usually encrypted).

hdtvincr

12-18-07, 06:46 PM

Thanks for the fast response TP. I guess as long as I can look at my list of favorites and understand which is which station, that's alright then.

Don't blame me if you screw it up, but if you are into tweaking, you can modify the station names for your favorites list and they WILL keep. They are located in the KEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Dvico\ZuluHDTV\Data\SubCh
registry branch.

A comment on something interesting I've noticed that's a bit OT- Is anyone else able to view shows, apparently on-demand or ppv, that have been ordered by another cable customer?
PPV as you mentioned... You have no control of it. This is old news and available on most cable systems.

Keith

12-26-07, 08:17 PM

Has anyone tried using TSReader with the FusionHDTV5 USB Tuner ?

I get ATSC to work, but not QAM from my Cable..

TSReader is great, it displays alot of Data ..

Inundated

12-26-07, 11:24 PM

I wonder what it is about your laptop's USB port that kills F5USB units? Did you check its +5V level to see if it's high?

I have no idea how I'd even check the level. Is there an easy way to do this that doesn't require me to go buy test equipment?

Anyway, it's a moot point. The thing is dead, and I'm not getting another Fusion.

I'm not entirely convinced that my laptop was the culprit. I realize that'll get me nowhere in this conversation, so I'm not gonna push the point here. I'm just wondering why it takes a year for this sort of thing to happen, after daily, no problem use, and no previous sign of trouble.

Aside from "how did it die?": Until this happened, the software was working fine with the F5USB, and it was as stable as it ever has been. I was happy, and if I didn't have to shell out another $150 to get a working model, I'd be OK with it.

FusionHDTV is about the best performer on moderate video hardware that you can find. DViCo has another USB tuner product, called the Nano, but I'm not sure that it's available in the U.S. Otherwise, I see a lot of happy faces on the AutumnWave thread and there's a lot of positive vibration from the HD HomeRun thread, which would work with your laptop if you can play back HDTV files OK using VLC.

Yeah, I can do that...testing its ability is one of the things I did before I bought the Fusion. I downloaded the demo software (DViCo's) and played back those HD recorded files they provide on their site (Korean TV?). I'm sure VLC would be OK.

But I need "live" recording on my laptop, daily, away from my home. I don't think HDHomerun would do that...as I recall, it's meant to sit on your home network and push the video through that.

If I'm not going to get a new Fusion, I have one big problem. I recorded one large half-hour file in whatever format the Fusion uses to record. It's 3 gigabytes, and I'm pretty sure downconverting it to MPEG2 or whatever can only be done through the conversion software - while the F5USB is attached.

Since my F5USB is dead, I'm stuck with a useless 3 gigabyte file, unless there's some other way to convert the file without the Fusion. I recorded the video for a friend, so I'd like to find out.

Inundated

12-27-07, 12:06 AM

Upon further review, TPeterson...

I was nosing around the AutumnWave GT thread. It's a more expensive unit ($30 more), but it seems to have a lot of fans, and they have hands-on support here and on their forum.

But the cost can be negated by trading in even my non-working F5USB (the AutumnWave guy even said on the thread that "we don't even care if it works or not").

Hmm.

Anyway, I bring this up after my earlier reply because there's a lot of talk in there about the AutumnWave GT being strictly within spec for USB power draw, where some others (Fusion??) may not be. Who knows what that could mean...maybe the F5USB is pulling over the spec, and whatever my laptop uses to try to deal with that isn't working.

I'm still concerned about the specs, particularly my off-brand non-accelerated video on this thing, but...I could always put it down on my desktop. (That wouldn't solve my work-related issues, but...) And I've been kicking around a better laptop at some point, though I shouldn't really get one.

Anyway, I've found a workaround not involving a USB HDTV tuner for my work problem, so maybe I'd better step away from the "UMF", as we call it on another forum formerly associated with AVS...

TPeterson

12-27-07, 01:17 AM

What's "useless" about your 3-GB recording? It'll play in any player that supports HDTV transport streams, which is just about any decent PC video file player these days. If you must "convert", you can make it into a standard STB DVD IFO/ISO using HDTV2DVD. Seems to me that you've not done much of your homework.

You may find that other software players don't hack HDTV rendition on your laptop PC as well as you're accustomed with FusionHDTV. As I said, it's among the best I've seen when using marginally powerful video gear. Do try to demo any possible replacements before you buy.

When one device from a population that doesn't seem to have a reputation for early mortality dies connected to a particular box it can be chalked up to a weak individual. When two such devices suffer that fate, the chances of two "weak individuals" just happening to find themselves hooked to a faultless device one after another get rather slim. :(

I don't know how to measure voltages without a voltmeter. So I'm guessing that the answer to your first question is "no".

Inundated

12-27-07, 06:17 AM

What's "useless" about your 3-GB recording? It'll play in any player that supports HDTV transport streams, which is just about any decent PC video file player these days. If you must "convert", you can make it into a standard STB DVD IFO/ISO using HDTV2DVD. Seems to me that you've not done much of your homework.

Whew, now I remember why I stopped posting. :) I'm getting up pretty early to be insulted!

You're right, by the way. My mistaken impression of the file being "locked" probably comes from my memory that you needed the device plugged in to use DVICO's own conversion program - and the resulting impression that the file written isn't a standard format transport stream.

I downloaded HDTV2DVD shortly after I posted my last message, and it has finished the proper conversion. See, I have a brain cell or two to rub together after all! Imagine that.

As far as the other problem, well, I use all sorts of devices with this laptop, using the USB power provided off the two ports, and it doesn't seem to kill anything else.

Before you go off again, read my last message above about power draw, and imy laptop's ability to handle a draw from the USB port that may be exactly at or even over the specs for USB-powered devices.

Maybe I'll get a chance to demo the AutumnWave, since it doesn't appear to push those limits, and if that doesn't work, I'll do without a USB HDTV tuner on this machine.

As for you, thank you for your help from this walking idiot. :)

Paw Paw

12-30-07, 06:21 PM

I see the Divco ha released a "7th generation" tuner card. Can anyone tell me if this new card is a significant improvement over the "5th generation" cards? I was wondering if it was worth upgrading?

TPeterson

12-30-07, 07:29 PM

Are you planning to order it in Korea? AFAIK, it's not released in the U.S. yet.

Keith

01-01-08, 01:40 PM

better yet, is there any other software that works with the FusionHDTV5 USB Tuner ?

The FusionHDTV3.63.01 is ok, but there has to be something else...

TPeterson

01-02-08, 07:29 PM

There's a guy named Bill G. who probably thinks that MSFT MCE works with the F5USB. :D

audionewer

01-04-08, 10:18 AM

i want to know what is the best program for record hdtv on this tuner?

xsnrg

01-04-08, 10:30 AM

I have had great luck with BeyondTV

TPeterson

01-04-08, 01:13 PM

And I've had very satisfactory recording experience with FusionHDTV for many, many months now. Since you've already bought it with the tuner, I see no reason to shell out more money for another app, especially since none of the others work as well for playing HDTV in my experience.

Ronnie Ferrell

01-04-08, 05:42 PM

I figured I'd post this tidbit of info I found out in case someone else has the same issue. For the past 4 months I've thought I had a flaky motherboard. 60-70% of the time that I would do a reboot, my PC would shutdown instead of rebooting. Also when I would change a BIOS setting and save, the PC would shutdown instead of the normal reboot when saving the BIOS settings. I have tried different version of the BIOS and many different setting without any luck. That is until last night. It finally hit me what the issue was. I have to use the Fusion "jumper cables" to the ON/OFF switch with my motherboard to get the Fusion card to work properly. My motherboards default setting in the BIOS for "Power Button off" is set to "instant" and not "4 sec delay". With this setting on instant, the Fusion card must send some kind of signal for a split second down the "jumper cables" to the motherboard and the motherboard was taking this as the power button being hit. So I set the BIOS setting to 4 second delay and my issue has gone away.

SO, if you have to use the Fusion ON/OFF "jumper cables" to the motherboard with your Fusion card, be sure to set your BIOS setting to "4 sec. delay" when the power button is pressed.

Ronnie

jldet5

01-04-08, 05:55 PM

i want to know what is the best program for record hdtv on this tuner?

I have used BeyondTV, GBPVR, and the included Fusion app. Right now I prefer the Fusion app but it really depends on how you want your HTPC to work as to which app is really best for you. GBPVR was also more difficult to set up. BeyondTV had an EPG problem that I believe is now fixed but I have not paid much attention to that software lately.

With the Fusion app you are able to use the fantastic and free CW_EPG app that will integrate the Schedules direct EPG and also the MYHD card. A big big plus.

TPeterson

01-04-08, 05:55 PM

Thanks for the tip, Ronnie. It's interesting to me that you have a mobo that supports "4-second delay" but doesn't support PME (the presumed reason that you're using the direct power cable from the RT card). I would've expected those to be related.

Ronnie Ferrell

01-04-08, 06:09 PM

Terry, Yeah I would have figured the same as well. PME with the Fusion card works on my motherboard to wake from S3 state but would not wake from hibernate or turn it on from the off state. So I had to use the jumper cables to get my HTPC to turn on from the remote.

What is strange is WoL on the motherboard with the built-in network card WILL wake the PC from hibernate when I send it a magic packet remotely. Not sure why the Fusion card will not. No biggy, becasue the jumper cables work perfectly. Well at least the do now that I changed the setting to 4 sec. delay for the off button in the BIOS.

Ronnie

Paw Paw

01-08-08, 07:29 PM

T Peterson, I see that there is a new version of the software in the download area of the Divco website. Is this for all Divco tuners and if so can you enlighten us on what has been changed in the new version and if it is worth upgrading to the new version?

Thanks

TPeterson

01-09-08, 01:36 AM

Paw Paw

01-09-08, 06:28 AM

The word from DViCo is that version 3.64 was specifically released to support a new tuner model (FusionHDTV7 RT Gold) and there isn't much reason to install it on other systems.

There's to be a version 3.66 soon that will have more significant feature changes.

Thank you for the information. I will be watching for version 3.66

L8N8

01-10-08, 05:56 PM

Hi Terry...

Do you know if S3 resume is supposed to work in Vista 32-bit when using FusinoHDTV5 lite?

I find that after a fresh boot, I can tune ATSC OTA without any problems (either watching live or trying to record).

However, after resuming from S3, the tuner seems to fail. Any time I try to record something after an S3 resume (or watch something live) the system hangs.

Note that the above works fine in XP. All my hardware is the same, just upgraded the OS to Vista 32.

Any thoughts or tips would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
Nate

NV5655

01-10-08, 07:12 PM

Is anyone noticing an audio delay in Vista? It starts slow, then goes to as much as a minute out of psynch with video..

I can think of two culprits. The new NVidia Driver from Dec 20th...Windows Vista and the new XSI Softimage program..

Any ideas?

TPeterson

01-10-08, 07:33 PM

arcticool

01-20-08, 09:46 PM

Having some trouble finding a driver for my Fusion 5 Lite card.
3.63.01 apparently no longer supports this card?

TPeterson

01-20-08, 10:15 PM

It supports mine jus' fine. There's no version of the "unified" driver for the F5 Lite, but the 3.63.01 installer sets it up with the driver from the "2000" folder and it works great.

DPlettner

01-21-08, 12:21 AM

The word from DViCo is that version 3.64 was specifically released to support a new tuner model (FusionHDTV7 RT Gold) and there isn't much reason to install it on other systems.

There's to be a version 3.66 soon that will have more significant feature changes.Terry,

Do you know whether 3.64 fixes this bug? (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12408590#post12408590)

-Dave

hdtvincr

01-21-08, 07:54 PM

Dave,

Not sure about that bug, but I doubt it. I believe Terry posted somewhere that that release was primarily for the addition of a new tuner.

However, we have found that the QAM channel scans appear to have been messed up. I would not update to 3.64 unless absolutely necessary.....

TPeterson

01-21-08, 08:01 PM

For the benefit of the peanut gallery...(for those of you not old enough to remember Howdy Dooty, that means "the studio audience" :D)...I did share a private beta code with Dave following his post above and he confirmed that the Registry change needed for handling paths with spaces had been made. However, because of the QAM bug introduced in 3.64 that Tim mentions, that beta isn't ready for primetime. Let's hope that DViCo can soon squash that problem and get a new public release out the door.

arcticool

01-21-08, 08:11 PM

It supports mine jus' fine. There's no version of the "unified" driver for the F5 Lite, but the 3.63.01 installer sets it up with the driver from the "2000" folder and it works great.

Yep right you are. The drivers did not recognize my card automatically but after some manual work in device manager seem OK now.
Thanks :)

moejoe.100

01-24-08, 02:56 PM

[QUOTE=hdtvincr;12528212]Don't blame me if you screw it up, but if you are into tweaking, you can modify the station names for your favorites list and they WILL keep. They are located in the KEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Dvico\ZuluHDTV\Data\SubCh
registry branch.

I won't hold anyone responsible but can you tell me exactly what you're changing in the registry to modify station names? In this registry branch my favorites look something like:

"CatvFavoritesCh001"=hex:f4,03,01,00,01,00,bd,1b,02,03,00,00,44,31,30,31,32,00,\
00,00,c7,da,41,7e,00,00,00,00,48,00,5e,03,48,ff,12,00,70,e3, de,00,2c,ff,12,\
00,0e,34,0e,03,ff,ff,ff,ff

This QAM channel will show up with a name with something like D1012. If I want to rename it Channel 2 or CBS, what would I change in the registry? Changing CatvFavoritesCh001 to CatvFavoritesChCBS just made this favorite disappear. Do I need to use a hex editor?

hdtvincr

01-24-08, 03:20 PM

"CatvFavoritesCh001"=hex:f4,03,01,00,01,00,bd,1b,02,03,00,00,44,31,30,31,32,00,\
00,00,c7,da,41,7e,00,00,00,00,48,00,5e,03,48,ff,12,00,70,e3, de,00,2c,ff,12,\
00,0e,34,0e,03,ff,ff,ff,ff

This QAM channel will show up with a name with something like D1012. If I want to rename it Channel 2 or CBS, what would I change in the registry?
That entry shows the name of "D1012" (in hex: 44,31,30,32). If you wanted to edit the hex values, then obviously you will need to look up those equivalent values.

I believe, and your example looks like, the length of the name string is 6 characters long. Using Regedit, if you dbl cllick on that registry key it should bring up a binary editor showing that entire entry in both hex & ascii. It should be obvious then as you should easily see the D1012 in ascii.

You may edit those 6 characters, but be careful since I believe that editor INSERTS values. If you try to overwrite, you will probably insert so then of course you would need to delete the exact same number of characters as you add so that the length of that binary key when your done is the EXACT same size as when you started. If it doesn't, then there are no guarantees that you didn't screw something up..... That is why I said be careful........

moejoe.100

01-24-08, 06:42 PM

You may edit those 6 characters, but be careful since I believe that editor INSERTS values. If you try to overwrite, you will probably insert so then of course you would need to delete the exact same number of characters as you add so that the length of that binary key when your done is the EXACT same size as when you started. If it doesn't, then there are no guarantees that you didn't screw something up..... That is why I said be careful........

Thanks! Your instructions were great.

etcarroll

01-25-08, 08:33 AM

The word from DViCo is that version 3.64 was specifically released to support a new tuner model (FusionHDTV7 RT Gold) and there isn't much reason to install it on other systems.

There's to be a version 3.66 soon that will have more significant feature changes.

TP -

I'll be building a new htpc this weekend with Vista, any update to this new version?

I'd like to build with as much up to date sw as possible.

TPeterson

01-25-08, 10:21 AM

Gene, I have no updates on release of 3.66. Its first beta has severe QAM scanning problems and I've not yet seen a second. Furthermore, you're on your own w.r.t. MSFT's betaware, as I've not touched it. My advice for HTPCs is to stick with WinXP for now.

arcticool

01-26-08, 12:10 PM

Quick question re: deinterlacing: there appear to be two settings- 'soft' and 'sharp'.
Neither is doing a great job for me. I prefer sharp but see interlacing lines from time to time.

Is there any way to force it to use my hardware (8800GTS Purevideo) deinterlacing?

TPeterson

01-26-08, 01:30 PM

No.

starsd

01-28-08, 07:01 AM

Hi guys
I am just curious how they would compare.

Please tell if anyone own or have experience with
Both Hauppage and Fusion Tuners.

I currently have F5 PCI and USB.

thanks in advance

img eL

01-28-08, 03:43 PM

starsd, i can't compare the Hauppage for you, but do u notice any differences between the fusionHDTV5 pci & usb versions?

TPeterson

01-28-08, 05:04 PM

The only performance differences between the USB and PCI/PCI-e versions of Fusion5 units stem from the PC-to-PC variations in low-level support for those buses. A given PC may support one better than the other, but the only way to find out is to try them. In most cases one can, by fiddling enough with the PC configuration, get good performance from either style.

mwk1000

01-31-08, 01:13 PM

Hello, I rarely post but since I have been fooling with Divco / Vista

I have posted a request on the Divco site but I though I might repeat it here. I have been using 3.63.01 and have noticed some areas for improvement. I have a Vista Business HTPC system. ( That's Divco improvement not Vista improvement before you all jump, The Vista list is its own beast )

Vista changed the audio architecture substantially and the Divco software seems to be getting tripped up on the line-in selection. You can rename your in/out audio lines in Vista and when you do they no longer appear in the audio drop down box for line-in selections. I have asked Divco to:

1) Review the code for selecting input lines to be more robust and not based on the text "Line in".

2) The analog audio capture would not work reliably when watching s-video (my Dish Network feed). I discovered that if I deinstalled and reinstalled the audio drivers ( Soundmax on an ASUS M2NPV-VM ) the audio would work when viewing. It worked fine for recording but would not play when trying to watch the S-Video. The reinstall is a repeatable fix.

3) The Closed Captions for the Digital OTA is sorely missed in our home since we have a Deaf family member and ALL video is captioned in our home.

4) Any SDK style documentation posted on the web would be great. I have a working graph but am struggling to get the BDA style channel changes ( Property page ) visible. Perhaps it does not exist for BDA filter ? ( So I can get Captions as a work around for now )

Beyond that the card and software have been stable and good performers for many months. I had some struggles to beat Vista and the ASUS MB into submission but it is a good bang for the buck.

PS. I have probably turned up the audio issues because I have multiple sound cards in the system. The on-board and a PCIe X-FI in the 1x slot. The system drives a room upstairs ( Flat panel , 5.1 audio ) , and one downstairs (Projector, 5.1 audio )

Cheers

timcin

02-01-08, 10:58 PM

Has anyone tried using TSReader with the FusionHDTV5 USB Tuner ?
I get ATSC to work, but not QAM from my Cable..
TSReader is great, it displays alot of Data ..

I tried it with my Fusion 3Gold and HDTV5 USB and it crashed a lot. I downloaded it from Divco's ftp site, TSReaderLite2.4.39.exe, awhile ago.
If this is the wrong version, where can I download another version that works?

I have a preorder on the HDTV7USB tuner coming out soon. I hope TSreader will be compatible with it.

TPeterson

02-02-08, 12:46 PM

Hello, I rarely post but since I have been fooling with Divco / Vista....First, please note that there is a Fusion with Vista thread for you folks who're helping MSFT beta test their OS. Second, I'm not clear on what sort of response/answer you are seeking anyway. It sounds as though you've already "done the right thing" and reported your needs to DViCo on their My Q&A site. What can the AVS Forum denizens do for you?

Oh, and welcome to the realm of the nonlurker! :D

starsd

02-03-08, 10:11 AM

starsd, i can't compare the Hauppage for you, but do u notice any differences between the fusionHDTV5 pci & usb versions?

Sorry for late reply
I did not see a whole of difference between USB and PCI.

I use USB with a XP pro Dell laptop and it works okay, a few bugs here and there.

I do not have much time for troubleshooting bugs, so, I am seeking better products.

I got me a Hauppage HVR 1600 QAM. I will post about it soon.

TPeterson

02-03-08, 12:28 PM

Good luck on that no-bugs search. :D

uriah

02-04-08, 09:20 PM

I recently moved and a few of my boxes turned up missing. the dongle for the rt gold 5 is not to be found. Anyone know where I can obtain another?

Uriah

TPeterson

02-04-08, 10:10 PM

Give Digital Connection a call and see if they can provide one.

uriah

02-05-08, 12:43 AM

Thanks, i sent then an e-mail. Hope I don't have spend $100 on a new rt 7 just for a dongle. Suspect they are the same on both units.
Uriah

quOTE=TPeterson;13030788]Give Digital Connection a call and see if they can provide one.[/QUOTE]

danq989

02-09-08, 04:59 AM

Ronnie Ferrell

02-09-08, 11:31 AM

Hi folks,

I've used my Fusion5 USB for about 18 months now on a Core2Duo 6400@3GHz/WinXP SP2 HTPC driving a Sanyo Z2000 at 1080p and/or a Viewsonic VX2025WM at 1680x1050 60Hz.

I've recently upgraded my video card from a Radeon X1800XT to an nvidia 8800GT driver 169.21) and I find the video decoder performance to be much lower quality than before.

Previously with my Radeon, I used the Zulu HDTV (Dxva) Decoder and got very good results on 1080i material (full resolution and natural-looking smooth motion).

Now with my 8800GT, if I enable the DxVA decoder (or the unified decoder) I get some scaling artifiacts on both 720p and 1080i channels, and in addition the smooth quality to the video is completely ruined. It's not exactly judder, but more like half-framerate.

The only decoder mode that looks full-rez is the plain-Jane "Zulu HDTV Video Decoder" mode with quality set to "highest", but this still doesn't have the smooth motion I'm used to on the Radeon. I find the action shots unacceptable on 1080i sports programs.

Note: I also tried using file playback of 1080i material using Purevideo decoder (smart deinterlacing, HW accel ON), DScaler5 (defaults), and DVICO (DXVA), and I found the DScaler playback to be wonderful, but the other two had problems identical to the live playback issues described above.

Has anyone had better success with 8-series nvidia cards? Hints or tweaks to help?

---DanQ

This does not help, but I get the same results with the built-in video on my BioStar TF7050-M2 motherboard. Same scaling artifacts, very noticeable on the station bugs in the lower righthand corner. Also same "half framerate" motion. Definitely not a pause/jerk thing, but looks more like 10 to 15 frames a second playback like an animated flip book.

I have never been able to get it to work correctly with the TF7050-M2 video. My previous GeForce 6150 motherboard had flawless playback. I now use my MyHD card for all viewing and only use the Fusion card for recording. I'll eventually upgrade to one of the new ATI 3000 model cards to see if that will help any.

Ronnie

danq989

02-09-08, 12:05 PM

Hi Ronnie,

Well, it's nice to know that at least I'm not alone in my problems. Also interesting that at least one nVidia chip/driver combo (6150) worked correctly. I'm guessing it's an nVidia driver bug, but it's hard to assign blame for sure.

Can anyone confirm they have smooth playback (60 fps) and full res (check station logos) using an nvidia 8-series card?

TPeterson

02-09-08, 02:48 PM

danq989

02-09-08, 04:03 PM

TPeterson,

Has anyone been successful getting a response from nvidia (or DVICO for that matter) on issues like this, or has it just been wait and pray?

TPeterson

02-09-08, 04:32 PM

DViCo has identified and recommended driver versions, such as the 84.21, which works on the 6xxx and earlier GPUs, but it's out of their hands to "fix" nVidia's driver. I'm unaware of anyone's even trying to get nVidia's attention on this issue.

danq989

02-09-08, 04:46 PM

Hmmm, that's unfortunate that nvidia hasn't taken any notice of HDTV scaling/deinterlacing problems. I was in Radeon-land for a long time and was happy I had a working HDTV decoding system, I (unfortunately) assumed nvidia driver development had kept pace with their rival's.

Well, since I've had some success with other decoders (e.g. DScaler5 SW), is there any way to get the Fusion SW to use that decoder instead? Or use another app that supports generic MPEG2 decoders and Fusion BDA drivers (note: I need clear-QAM, so WatchHDTV seems to be a no-go)? Would Vista MCE be a viable option?

Thanks for any/all advice!

tencom

02-09-08, 05:58 PM

There have been perennial nVidia driver problems for HDTV rendering. With each new generation of hardware it seems that they first work on getting good game performance (for some crazy reason :rolleyes:) and then, maybe, fix the HDTV stuff. The tactic that has worked well in the past has been to stick with an "old" driver once you find one that works. There are "good" HDTV drivers for MX-440/4000, 6200, 6600, and 6150 GPUs, but I have no experience with the newer ones.

It is my experience with Nvidia AGP VGA boards is that the only one that was problem free and had full DXVA support was the Nvidia MX-440 I tried the Nvidia 5200, 6200, 6800GT, 7600GS and all had problems escpecially with DXVA support. I now use ATI HD-2600 video card with special Cataylst
settings to get full hardware accelaration.

TPeterson

02-09-08, 07:20 PM

I'm using a FusionHDTV5 RT with an EVGA 6200 AGP card and the 84.21 driver. I see "perfect" DxVA playback on my Samsung 52" LCDTV over HDMI (with DVI to HDMI cable) as well as from the VGA port.

tencom

02-09-08, 08:22 PM

I'm using a FusionHDTV5 RT with an EVGA 6200 AGP card and the 84.21 driver. I see "perfect" DxVA playback on my Samsung 52" LCDTV over HDMI (with DVI to HDMI cable) as well as from the VGA port.

On my AMD X64 configuration with the 6200 I get a white foldover bar across the bottom of the screen with 720 X 480I using 84.21 with DXVA This was true with all my Nvidia cards, with the exception of the MX-440
I believe that Nvidia gives low piority, to video and wants to serve the gamers
market I finally sold my 6800 and 7600 cards to a gamer

Paw Paw

02-11-08, 09:56 AM

The word from DViCo is that version 3.64 was specifically released to support a new tuner model (FusionHDTV7 RT Gold) and there isn't much reason to install it on other systems.

There's to be a version 3.66 soon that will have more significant feature changes.

TPeterson,

I see that 3.66 has been posted to the Download section of the DIVCO FTP site. Do you have any information on what enhancements have been added?

Thanks

TPeterson

02-11-08, 11:27 AM

On my AMD X64 configuration with the 6200 I get a white foldover bar across the bottom of the screen with 720 X 480I using 84.21 with DXVA This was true with all my Nvidia cards, with the exception of the MX-440
I believe that Nvidia gives low piority, to video and wants to serve the gamers
market I finally sold my 6800 and 7600 cards to a gamerIf you're going to output 720x480i, you certainly don't need DxVA anyway! Get an HDTV ferhevvinsake.

TPeterson

02-11-08, 11:28 AM

Paw--

See my post on 3.66 in the New sw thread.

tencom

02-12-08, 11:10 PM

If you're going to output 720x480i, you certainly don't need DxVA anyway! Get an HDTV ferhevvinsake.

I don't feel I should have to go through an adjustment procedure everytime I switch channels!

TPeterson

02-12-08, 11:38 PM

tencom

02-13-08, 08:48 PM

I don't know what you're talking about. I set up my desktop at 1920x1080 or 1920x1200, depending on whether I'm displaying to HDTV or PC monitor, and I'm done. There are no "adjustments" needed when changing channels.

Setting a 480 resolution is throwing away 75% of the (HD) picture!

You didn't understand my point I only meant that I did want not to reset DXVA, everytime I went to a standard definition video stream and then resetting again to a HDTV video. Was there ever a cure with certain Nvidia VGA cards of having a White foldover bar at the bottom of the picture on standard definition digital video? I know their was some posts on this site of others reporting a similiar experience with V 84.21 software and nvidia based video cards. I gave up with nvidia their cards were to fussy escpecialy with DXVA. My 6800 and 7600 video cards didn't even do well with PURE-VIDEO. The cards left almost all the digital processing up to the processor
I had better luck with ATI-RADEON. where I get a 20 to 25% average CPU rate on HDTV streams, which was not acheivable with Nvidia based video chipsets, except with the MX-440.

TPeterson

02-13-08, 11:17 PM

I see no problems with displays of HDTV or SDTV on 1920x1080/1200 desktops with MX-440, MX-4000, 6200, or 6150 GPUs. I'm glad that you found a solution that's working for you.

pdxdennisj

02-14-08, 10:56 AM

I got my new card installed yesterday and after a few tries finally got a good install (I think) on the software. Could never have done it without reading through this thread. Particularly awesome are TPeterson and Kaxkid :).

Paw Paw

02-19-08, 08:45 AM

T. Peterson,

I see that 3.66.01 has been posted to the download area of the Divco FTP site. Did they fix the QAM subchannel parsing issue with this release?

Thanks for your help,

Paw Paw

Ronnie Ferrell

02-19-08, 09:31 AM

You didn't understand my point I only meant that I did want not to reset DXVA, everytime I went to a standard definition video stream and then resetting again to a HDTV video. Was there ever a cure with certain Nvidia VGA cards of having a White foldover bar at the bottom of the picture on standard definition digital video? I know their was some posts on this site of others reporting a similiar experience with V 84.21 software and nvidia based video cards. I gave up with nvidia their cards were to fussy escpecialy with DXVA. My 6800 and 7600 video cards didn't even do well with PURE-VIDEO. The cards left almost all the digital processing up to the processor
I had better luck with ATI-RADEON. where I get a 20 to 25% average CPU rate on HDTV streams, which was not acheivable with Nvidia based video chipsets, except with the MX-440.

Tencom, Yes, I know exactly what you are talking about with the white bar at the bottom 1/3 or so of the screen with digital 480i content using DXVA. It only does it on 480i, not 720p or 1080i. I don't know if it did it on analog 480i because I never watch any analog signal. There was only one channel, The Documentary Channel, that I watched that was digital 480i. Of course it did not do it with SD material sent at 720p or 1080i. It has been a year since I had my 6150 chipset but I found some beta Nvidia drivers close to 84.21's that fixed the issue. The beta drivers did not cause any other issue on my HTPC. If I can find my old notes, I'll post the version I used with my 6150 chipset.

TPeterson

02-19-08, 10:23 AM

T. Peterson,

I see that 3.66.01 has been posted to the download area of the Divco FTP site. Did they fix the QAM subchannel parsing issue with this release?

Thanks for your help,

Paw PawHaven't tested a "3.66.01", but 3.66.00 did not have the scan fixed. I think that the version with the scan fixed is to be called "3.67.xx" when it's released (soon, I hope).

KAXKID

02-19-08, 10:31 AM

Haven't tested a "3.66.01", but 3.66.00 did not have the scan fixed. I think that the version with the scan fixed is to be called "3.67.xx" when it's released (soon, I hope).

yes, 3.66.01 scans properly here.

jldet5

02-20-08, 03:12 AM

T. Peterson,

I see that 3.66.01 has been posted to the download area of the Divco FTP site. Did they fix the QAM subchannel parsing issue with this release?

Thanks for your help,

Paw Paw

How are you guys finding this stuff? When I look at the suppport site all I see is the 3.63.01 version.

Paw Paw

02-20-08, 08:36 AM

You need to look on the DIVCO FTP site. Here is the link to the download folder.
ftp://ftp.dvico.com/Products/FusionHDTV/Down/

jldet5

02-20-08, 06:13 PM

You need to look on the DIVCO FTP site. Here is the link to the download folder.
ftp://ftp.dvico.com/Products/FusionHDTV/Down/

Thanks!

pdxdennisj

02-22-08, 12:05 PM

OK guys, I puzzled. I'm running

P4 3.2 MHz
1024 MB
Nvidia GeForce FX5200 (NV34.3) 256MB
Fusion 3.61Web

All seems to be reasonably well except that the HDTV channels seem to have (I'm not really sure) a slight lip sync delay - I can live with that easily. What is bothersome is that on one channel - PBS HDTV - on some, and only some programs, I get the freeze frame, pause while something catches up and then it restarts for a minute or so - all this accompanied by severe lip sync problems. The next HDTV program on the same channel will not show any of these problems nor will other HDTV channels. Am I correct in assuming that something is going on at the broadcast channel that doesn't agree with my setup and that it isn't necessarily something I can fix.:(

TPeterson

02-22-08, 01:06 PM

Dennis--

It sounds as though you may have an IRQ or driver problem. I suggest that you try the 84.21 nVidia driver to see if that may fix the issues.

pdxdennisj

02-22-08, 02:00 PM

OK. I went to the Nvidia site and they suggested the most recent release 93.71. Is there a reason that the older version 84.21 would be more appropriate?

TPeterson

02-22-08, 02:04 PM

Nvidia's attention is focused on gaming. The fact that their video cards can play HDTV is almost accidental and isn't something that they seem to strive to maintain in their "latest and greatest" drivers. The 84.21 version works very well for HDTV on several card models and that's why I suggested that you try it.

pdxdennisj

02-28-08, 07:12 PM

Hi TPeterson - OK, I downloaded the Nvidia drivers and neither solved problem.
I let the fusion card remain stationary and moved both the Nvidia card and my
card with extra USB ports and the problem got worse.

When installing the Fusion software I go to the Hardware device manager to check for sucessful install but with unsucessful install the device manager will not allow me access. With the sucessfull (?) install I now have I go to the device manager and it will load but when I check on the resources for any of the Fusion drivers, it opens but freezes on any attempt to close. The same happens with my IDE drives, floppy drives and the fusion infrared receiver. Other device resource requests close appropriately.

I have not been able to find an IRQ conflict. Is there any software that will check for conflicts and give me a report. It seems pretty clear that I have some sort of conflict :confused:.

If I knew how to just load the Fusion drivers I might try installing Media Portal to see if I encounter the same problems ( I have a big hunch I will).

Any comments would be greatly appreciated.
Dennis

Leeoniya

02-28-08, 07:44 PM

dennis, i have actually been having similar issues which did not occur with my MDP-130.

running FusionHDTV5 Express w/EVGA 7800GT (ForceWare v171.23)

90% of my QAM channels "studder" and delay for a fraction of a second perhaps every 5 seconds or so (both audio and video). however, the audio and video remain in sync, but it's still not something i would call "watchable"

Leon

TPeterson

02-28-08, 07:50 PM

What kind of video card is that that you could move it, a (non express) PCI?

I've never seen the sort of issues in Device Manager that you describe. (But then I've never used a PCI video card) DM has a view that shows all the IRQ assignments in one list so that you can identify shared, potentially conflicting ones.

I suggest that you review the KAXKID procedure for reinstalling FusionHDTV and use that to try again for a successful installation without the 3rd PCI card in the mix. If you get that to work then you can try to add the USB card (although I suggest that you go for an external hub instead to expand on the number of USB ports).

TPeterson

02-28-08, 07:54 PM

Leon, if you have some channels that don't stutter but are otherwise the same sort of program (i.e., SD or HD) I think that your problem is with the cable signal quality. What are your "signal strength" readings?

Leeoniya

02-28-08, 08:02 PM

I just updated from 3.63.01 to 3.66.01 and it seems to go a long way towards correcting the issue. unfortunately over the past few months my cable provider here (RCN) has been crippling clear-qam. I used to get everything that i usually got over analog cable (without any cable boxes) and additionally some HD stuff like ESPN and few others. slowly everything has been switched to encrypted QAM

today was the day when RCN forced my region to switch to all digital. i still have to pick up my "digital converter box" to get cable to my analog TV anymore. all analog is gone. the only clear-qam i can receive with my PC now are the federally mandated local channels. and those seem to have stopped shuddering after the update.

we'll see what QAM i get from the other side of this magical "converter box" hopefully it decrypts everything that i pay for into clear QAM doesnt cost me a dime, since it's being forced on me.

Leon

pdxdennisj

02-28-08, 09:11 PM

Yep, It's just a regular PCI card. I have been using the Kaxkid installs/uninstalls.
I'll try your other suggestion by pulling the USB card.

pdxdennisj

02-29-08, 05:00 PM

I removed the USB card and things improved somewhat but the problems are still there. I guess my next move is to go ahead and replace my video card with a new one that fits into either the PCIe or AGP slots on my MB - perhaps that will eliminate the conflicts. The PCIe would be the better choice?

TPeterson

02-29-08, 05:15 PM

You have a mobo with both AGP and PCIe slots??? Who made that thing?

pdxdennisj

02-29-08, 07:00 PM

:D HeHeHe.

http://www.ocworkbench.com/2006/asrock/4coredual-vsta/g1.htm

TPeterson

02-29-08, 07:48 PM

I see....

Well, it's a crap shoot as to whether a PCIe or AGP card would work better in your rare-bird mobo. If you plan to keep it long enough to justify a dead-end video solution you could pick up an AGP bargain known to work well with FusionHDTV, such as the MX-440/4000 models, and give it a shot. I certainly wouldn't recommend spending much on an AGP card now, since this is likely the last mobo you'll have that can accommodate one.

pdxdennisj

03-01-08, 08:14 AM

Right. Well, the reason I got this MB was that it would give me the option of gradually updating my memory and Video card rather than making everything obsolete at the same time. Looks like I can get a cheaper older Radeon PCIe
for a reasonable price (same as a new cheap new nVidia FX AGP). Guess I'll check out old reviews at Tom's Hardware.

pdxdennisj

03-01-08, 08:18 AM

Just saw your mention of the MX-440/4000 models as working well. I'll check prices on them also.

TPeterson

03-01-08, 11:01 AM

I don't see the point of getting a "cheaper, older" PCIe video card since that would presumably be useful in your "next" mobo. My suggestion re AGP was in the nature of a "stop loss".

pdxdennisj

03-01-08, 06:04 PM

Thanks for the "stop loss" suggestion. I had looked at the MX-440 on eBay and it was $25+ for one (only 3 were listed). I was also leery of the 64k memory on board. I did go down to the local "FreeGeek" (computer recyclers) here and found a bunch of Mx-400s and a Radeon 9000, all for $12 each. I forget to check on the net availability of drivers for the Mx and knew ATI site had them for the 9000 so I grabbed it. The good news is that it solves the conflict problem. no jerkiness or sync problems with an AGP card. Bad news is that on my regular web pages there is a slow "rain falling" effect that causes a slight flicker (?). I thought it was frequency related but when I bumped it up from 60 to 75Hz it got worse. Maybe memory on board? The Fx5200 had 256. Maybe just a bad board. Anyway, I found the Mx4000 driver on the nVidia site and I can go doen to Free Geeks Tuesday and exchange this for an Mx board. If that doesn't work I'll just get one of the FX series AGP boards (or a PCIe). Comments welcome. Thanks again for all your help ;).

pdxdennisj

03-01-08, 06:16 PM

pdxdennisj

03-02-08, 08:36 AM

Hey Guys (Is anyone left out there?) what video cards (PCIe) are you using with the 5 that work well? Thanks, D.

TPeterson

03-02-08, 10:52 AM

I take it back. I just changed the refresh rate to 75Hz with the Catalyst Manager and the flicker problem is mostly gone. The type and image quality still falls very much short of the FX 5200 PCI card. I'll likely get a the AGP version of it. Thanks again. D.1. 64 MB is plenty for a full HDTV display.
2. When viewing HDTV, you'll want to have your desktop running at 60 Hz for smoothest play. (There's a setting in FusionHDTV to do that when it's running)
3. If you see a difference in PQ between your current two cards on websites when set to the same resolution and color depth, the poorer of the two must have defective (or poorly designed) analog output circuitry--it's not from a difference in the chipsets.

jldet5

03-02-08, 10:57 AM

Hey Guys (Is anyone left out there?) what video cards (PCIe) are you using with the 5 that work well? Thanks, D.

Try using the Fusion drivers out of the 2000 folder. Use the add/remove windows panel to remove the fusion drivers, reboot, cancel installs, go into the Fusion 3.61.01 install remove the drivers from there also, reboot, manually point the install prompts to search the 2000 folder under program files / dvico/ drivers / 2000 (this may not be exact folder name but close). This works for me on the one station that Fusion doesn't like.

As far as video cards, Fusion seems to love ATI's using DxVA support. I've been using several cards in the 9000 series. I also have an Nvidia 7900GTX that works well if you turn off DxVA in the Fusion panel. So for ATI make sure you are using DxVA. For Nvidia I would turn it off. I think I saw where the current Nvidia cards support DxVA better but I have done much research on that.

Nixie

03-16-08, 01:23 AM

This may be of interested to those that are interested in over-air reception:
http://www.digitalhome.ca/ota/superantenna/
I live in Vancouver BC, where I can't get anything on the air and all cable digital content is encrypted (by law, not because the cable company are *******s), so I'm hoping this might provide good enough reception to get some Seattle channels or something.

sengsational

03-16-08, 06:16 PM

This may be of interested to those that are interested in over-air reception:
http://www.digitalhome.ca/ota/superantenna/We're working with the same waves we were in the 40's, so there's not much new in antennas (the "HD antenna" marketing crap gives me a chuckle). We have much less noisy amplifiers, though, and no worry about moderate "herringbone" that messes with analog signals. Your best bet is to put it up as high as you can get it and put a quality amp on the mast.

--Dale--

mudgen

03-23-08, 06:02 PM

Is there any way to dig up a map of QAM virtual channels to the Dxxx channels the FusionHDTV5 uses? My reading says there isn't, that the VC is an out-of-band signal issue that the card can't support. BUT there are ranges that I've hand-mapped that look like there's a pattern for a bit, then something wrecks the pattern. I'll see the first program on (say) 53 map to D531, the second to D532, etc, but then suddenly the sixth program won't follow the pattern.

It's a scaling problem for me--I have about 180 clear QAM channels, and hand-mapping to CW_EPG, etc, is going to take forever. Since I have a great map of the VCs to call signs, from SiliconDust site using my zip code, if I could translate those to the Fusion numbers, I'd be WAYYY ahead. I"ve verified the SiliconDust numbers via my LG 52LB5D, which tunes by them.

Any help much appreciated. If there's some kind of logic to it, I can probably script the transform. Or if the data actually exists in the bowels of Fusion, point me at it and I'll dig it out. I'd rather write code than sit around matching channels between the LG and the Fusion tuners, which would still be faster than mapping from Fusion to Schedule Direct by browsing content.

I do understand that Comcast could change all their VC mappings tomorrow. Since I have a data source for mapping those to call signs, all the more need for a repeatable solution.

TPeterson

03-23-08, 06:39 PM

mudgen

03-23-08, 08:49 PM

The "Dxxx" numbers that you refer to are pure DViCo invention, being algorithmically related to the rf channel number plus the PID subchannel program number. They have nothing to do with either the broadcasters' virtual channel data, which is sent "in band" with the PSIP stream (if at all), nor with the cableco's "channel" assignments, which are set by out-of-band signals to their set-top boxes. KAXKID deciphered DViCo's scheme many moons ago and published the algorithm here on AVS in one of the Fusion threads.

You're right, though, that the cableco does shuffle these QAM assignments around from time to time with no notice to anyone, so your mapping chore in cases of channels without PSIP VC is neverending.

Thanks for the tip about KAXKID, I've found a thread from back then where he's in a discussion on this, hope to find the post(s) you indicate. With enough insight as to what's going on, I may be able to cobble together what I need and just deal with Comcast changes if they occur. None have in the month I've been watching the lineup.

I'm about ready to go for the HDHomerun. Or bag Vista entirely and go with Mythbuntu. I have a useless Dell-bundled ATI Theatre 650 in the machine--Dell doesn't include the ATI media center software, and Vista MC won't do QAM. So I threw in this card previously sucking up superfluous electrons in a Linux box, hoping to get somewhere with FusionHDTV and the EW_EPG. But the mapping is looking awfully labor intensive on an ongoing basis. With "regular" virtual channel numbers, it would be manageable.

I don't even mind paying for a cable box, but I don't want to settle for svid time-shifting.

TPeterson

03-23-08, 08:56 PM

mudgen

03-24-08, 02:06 PM

In practice, the QAM assignments on most cable systems are fairly stable, so that the chore isn't so terribly frequent--the rub is only that the changes are totally unheralded so that you can easily miss some recordings before you've noticed them.

This problem is generic to clear-QAM recording so HDHR, etc., are all going to present you with it one way or another.

Yes, understood that I'll be responsible for QAM mapping. But I did think that with the HDHR I'd be looking at the VC numbers or whatever they are. The "85-3", "76-211", etc., that I can map to call signs at SiliconDust, using my zip code. Still reading the threads on how DVICO concocts its channel numbers with a view to translating them into something that would make mapping faster than watching each channel until I figure out what it is. And it looks like Record_This may produce a log with some useful channel information, will experiment with that too.

Thanks for all you do for this community. At this point, I'm aghast at the lack of vendor integration of any of this stuff.

thegoldenstrand

03-26-08, 02:58 PM

TPeterson and others,

Any luck with the MPEG encoder Dvico put out last year that came out about same time at 3.62.01 driver?
Should I avoid or is it worth to install in addtion to the 3.63 drivers?

Mike

TPeterson

03-26-08, 04:24 PM

Mike--

I haven't tried it, as I have little need for MPEG encoding.

thegoldenstrand

03-26-08, 08:54 PM

Terry,

Thank you for getting back to me on this!

Mike

mmortal03

03-29-08, 11:32 AM

What file is the recording schedule that you access from the tray icon stored in? I need to reset it. It got corrupted, and now I can't access the tray icon, the menu for that schedule, or the general context menu for the main app. It seems to not be the same file as the one that stores the info you can access from the EPG, because deleting stuff from that one didn't solve the problem (the corruption is occurring because of an entry I already removed, btw).

TPeterson

03-29-08, 12:49 PM

The schedule is stored in the file Epg2List.mdb in the FusionHDTV Program Files folder. But if you rename/delete that file FusionHDTV.exe will not run correctly. You need to either re-install the app or find an uncorrupted version of the mdb file to put in place of the damaged one.

jldet5

03-29-08, 09:54 PM

All you VISTA guys think twice before installing SP1. I think you'll find your very unhappy with the Fusion problems. Something to do with VMR and floating point errors.

hammerdwn

03-31-08, 10:58 AM

On my previous P4 2.4Ghz htpc- in order to get rid of stuttering video I had to make WinXP Processor type non-ACPI so that it would not use virtual irq's.

I migrated my FusionII to my new htcp. After finishing the build I'm indeed getting stuttering in live video, using both the Fusion app or good old Dscaler Tv app. I do not get any stuttering when I playback captured files and all other media formats, HD and sd. Processor usage is well below 15%, so I'm wondering if I need to turn off ACPI (virtual irq's) again??

Abit IP35-E
C2D 2.33GHz
2G mushkin
XFX 7950gt v169.21
FusionII OTA v3.66
WD 500GB sataII 3GB/s
Pioneer BDC2202
Azun7.1 Xplosion
XP Pro SP2 udpated

TPeterson

03-31-08, 12:24 PM

"Need to"? Probably not, but you'll have to find a different configuration somehow that eliminates the resource conflict that you evidently have now. Changing the PC type would be one way to do that....

jldet5

03-31-08, 05:07 PM

hammerdwn

03-31-08, 11:44 PM

Back in the early days, dvico was well aware of the ACPI shared/virtual irq problem. The processor type change worked (for me) before. I wonder if this old issue has been fixed with the new F5 or F7 cards?

TPeterson

03-31-08, 11:58 PM

Yes, I've read many posts saying that this or that HTPC product "needed" to use a non ACPI HAL. But I've personally never had to change the HAL to get an HTPC to perform smoothly. It's "a" solution, not "the" solution.

sumavguy

04-10-08, 09:53 PM

hey guys, I was trying to watch some hdtv on my dell 9100 with the divico hdtv gold pci card and I couldn't pull up abc or mostly any other stations because it would say that the station was in mpeg2 or mpeg3 on the screen and nothing else. Is there anything Im missing? it seemed like the only channel that worked was nbc shoppong channel which I didn't even know existed. thanks in advance

sumavguy

04-11-08, 11:46 AM

Huh? What's a "divcjo" card? And what's wrong with being able to pull up mostly any station?? :rolleyes:

Sorry I was really tired last night and had type it on my phone, I fixed the post!

But I had never seen that before when I was at my Apartment less then a year ago, but I was in a different cable area.

TPeterson

04-11-08, 11:56 AM

There's still too little information to hazard a guess at the problem. Did you rescan the channels? Could the new cable system be using HRC frequencies?

sumavguy

04-11-08, 01:05 PM

There's still too little information to hazard a guess at the problem. Did you rescan the channels? Could the new cable system be using HRC frequencies?

I did rescan and still the same problem. How can I tell if I'm using HRC frequencies? Sorry, I've been out of the "tuner" scene for over a year and haven't kept up with it.

All of the analog channels worked fine. I also have this plugged into the wall and not using the OTA HD antenna, since when I use the OTA antenna, I only get religious channels and a couple shopping channels.

Thanks in advance

TPeterson

04-11-08, 01:20 PM

If the analog stations are OK, then HRC is not the issue. How do the analogs look? Are they very clear or snowy? If snowy, the QAM problem may be with low signal strength. What is the "signal strength" reading for the QAM channel(s) that you do see?

Hyrax

04-11-08, 05:38 PM

Could it be that all of sumavguy's QAM stations are encrypted?

pdxdennisj

04-25-08, 04:04 PM

I have had a problem with stutter and changing the pci slots didn't help. Doing a web search on IRQ conflicts under XP eventually led me to a Microsoft page that advised turning off the PNP feature in the bis when running XP. I went to my Bios and turned off "PCI Masterbus". Stutter problem solved. Dont know if another problem will pop up in diff area.

TPeterson

04-25-08, 04:34 PM

I think you mean "PCI Bus Master". My guess is that making that change coincidentally caused a different set of IRQ assignments to happen when Windows next started, rather than Bus Mastering actually being the cause of your problem. But whatever the cause, I'm glad to hear that you got things working well and maybe your tip will help someone else.

AllenDB

04-29-08, 07:56 PM

I had a trip to make and set up some recordings on my 2 F5 Lite cards for 5 consecutive days. Did the same thing 3 weeks ago and all the recordings went fine. This time none/nada/el zippo/nothing got recorded on one of the F5L cards. Unfortunately it was the one I mostly use. The other card takes overflow/conflicts. When I looked at the machine there was a MS error box which I unfortunately closed being a bit furious. So I didn't have a clue.

After a bit I started poking around and came across this. The 2 cards are in different machines. They are both fed off the same splitter and the signal ranges from low 80s to mid 90s. That is until now. The displayed signal strength in the card that won't record any more ranges from the 20s to the 50s and never reaches the required 17db. But the card in the other machine still is in the lower 90s. I reseated the cable on the Fusion card, I swapped the outlets on the splitter and then changed the cable altogether. Still a bad signal,,,,,,,,,,, on that card but a fine one on the other card.

Could something have happened to the card physically? There isn't some setting that would affect the signal strength that I know of. Maybe I should reinstall. Do the Xesdeenio thing. But I sure wonder what happened is happening?:(

TPeterson

04-29-08, 08:23 PM

Allen, did you try rescanning the channels on the card with low ss readings? That may save you from the trouble of reinstalling. It seems that FusionHDTV sometimes decides to "reoptimize" channel settings and ends up losing the proper settings. I don't know what triggers this, but a rescan sets thing right again.

AllenDB

04-29-08, 10:06 PM

tomas

04-30-08, 02:57 AM

Has anyone else gotten the "bad date" error?

I have two different computers (XP32 and XP64 systems) with identical USB 5 GOLD units and they both popped up small error message windows saying something like 4/31 is a bad date.

The XP32 setup has been running quite well for months until today, when I was trying to set a scheduled recording during a night out for dinner and this window kept appearing whilst the program repeatedly quit. I finally got it to run without the error message appearing after a re-boot and set the scheduled recording.

Since I had a few minutes before leaving, I decided as a backup to simultaneously record the same program on my freshly built, new XP64 system. Just after installation I was amazed to see the exact same error message appear just after starting the program. (!)

After coming home, I found both systems had only recorded 51 seconds of the scheduled 60 minutes.

Now, the both work sans error messages, what is going on? It's still April 29th! Why is April 31st significant?

Eggstreamly Puzzled. :confused:

TPeterson

04-30-08, 06:36 AM

Please check this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13758520#post13758520), where the same issue is being discussed.

AllenDB

04-30-08, 02:06 PM

I was thinking about a rescan, just didn't see how. Will do and see what happens. Thanks for the nudge.
When I said 'see how' I meant 'see how it would fix things'. Did a rescan. It detected the 5 strongest channels, 4 networks plus a strong local but none were usable.

Is there a possibility that a reinstall would fix this? Here again I don't see how but I'm willing. On the other hand I've got 3 other tuners available for recording and that should be enough. The fourth one I use for playing.

Still a weird situation.

TPeterson

04-30-08, 08:06 PM

AllenDB

04-30-08, 08:29 PM

Allen, it's sounding bad for that Fusion5 Lite card. Rather than reinstalling, would it be relatively easy to try the "good" card in the place of the evidently bad one (or vice versa)? That would likely confirm or dispel the "bum card" diagnosis.
I wonder if going to 3.68.something would fix it. NOT!!!! Swapping a card in the Shuttle box is not readily done. Let me get the Fusion date problem fixed first. I might install 3.68 in the Shuttle box anyway and if it still doesn't work then I'll go back and think about swapping cards.

Thought I had three tuners for recording but don't. Find having to use the 130 for recording tonight.

SFischer1

04-30-08, 10:49 PM

I wonder if going to 3.68.something would fix it. NOT!!!! Swapping a card in the Shuttle box is not readily done. Let me get the Fusion date problem fixed first. I might install 3.68 in the Shuttle box anyway and if it still doesn't work then I'll go back and think about swapping cards.

Thought I had three tuners for recording but don't. Find having to use the 130 for recording tonight.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13759617#post13759617

3.68 fixed the date problem on two computers for me.

April 31, INDEED

Stephen H. Fischer

tc1

05-13-08, 10:59 AM

FYI: closed captions DTV ?/ans from DVICO

"I get closed captions on analog TV but where do I turn them on for HDTV?
Fusion HDTV5 Express "

Reply to your question is as below.

Hi.
We're developing the digital closed caption now.
Please be patient and we will update it when we have improved for this.
Thanks

tmansg1

05-18-08, 04:14 PM

I have had my Fusion 5 HD Gold card for a couple of years. I never subscribed to IO or any digital cable service, I just have regular basic family cable.
I have been able to get pretty much all the HD broadcast channels (fox abc...) through the cable using QAM on my computer.

The other day I finally got Cablevision IO, and I now get a ton of HD channels on my tv (TBS, TNT...). The cable company gave me an HD Scientific Atlanta cable box.

My question is, how come I cant get all the same HD channels on my computer as I do on the cable box. I still get some HD channels on my computer, but they are only the broadcast channels. Although I get TNT and TBS on my cable box, I do not get it on my computer... any thoughts...?

Thanks!

Hyrax

05-18-08, 04:42 PM

The channels you don't get are not delivered in clear QAM...only the major networks are.

tmansg1

05-18-08, 04:56 PM

The channels you don't get are not delivered in clear QAM...only the major networks are.

Ok thanks, kind of a bummer, I was hoping to get MSG and ESPN in HD on my PC. :(

video-rx

06-22-08, 03:16 PM

Has anyone heard of this? I've tried searching through the forums, but couldn't find anything about this.

I've scanned channels with my DVICO Fusion 5 USB from my cable company, and I only get the basic high-def channels (FOX, NBC, etc). I recently bought an HDTV with a QAM tuner in it, did a scan, and only received the same channels. As I was going to remove some channels, I found that I was able to pick up more high-def channels that are actually subchannels where the first subchannel is encrypted (or at least the tv doesn't display any content). So I added those channels to my HDTV and now I have more high-def channels (although it appears that a few of them are switched, so they change depending on what I have tuned using the cable box).

When I do a scan with the Fusion HDTV 5, it sees all the subchannels as encrypted. I know this cannot be true. Is there a way to make the software try the subchannel anyway?

Thanks in advance.

Edit: Disregard the message. Apparently it is a weak signal issue. If I remove a splitter, it no longer says the channel is encrypted, although the picture is very choppy. Intersting that the HDTV I bought can display the picture without a problem with the splitter, yet the FusionHDTV still has issues with the stronger signal.

AllenDB

06-29-08, 06:53 PM

Several months back one of my Fusion 5 Lite cards went out on me. There was a writers strike and a HDHomeRun box was recently added to my setup so I wasn't immediately worried. But I knew I wanted the versatility of 4 tuners so it had to be replaced.

I finally got an F5 Gold from DC (open box) and swapped it with the broken F5 Lite. After getting things installed right I brought it up and there was a solid signal back in the 80s and 90s. Problem fixed. Just for the heck of it I brought up the HDHR stuff to see its signal quality. Maybe its the day or NBC or something but the HDHR box was getting a slight freeze every so often. NBC was showing the LPGA but that has nothing to do with anything. I went back to to the new F5Gold and no problemo. Checked out the F5Lite card in the other machine and no problem there either. Went back to the HDHR box and it was still showing one of the signal qualities flashing in the red every so often along with the occasional freeze.

I know when I first got the HDHR box I compared it to the Fusion cards and thought there was no difference and so I had it set up as the first device to use when recording. Not any more. Now both both Fusion cards are first in the record priority list.

Just an observation.

TPeterson

06-29-08, 07:21 PM

Allen, did you update your HDHR to the latest fw? (It's from this spring sometime, IIRC) I believe that Silicondust fixed some OTA tuning issues along the line somewhere....

AllenDB

06-29-08, 08:06 PM

Allen, did you update your HDHR to the latest fw? (It's from this spring sometime, IIRC) I believe that Silicondust fixed some OTA tuning issues along the line somewhere....
Thanks, I'll look into it.

hdtvincr

06-29-08, 08:35 PM

Could be the start of a power suppy failure also. Seems like flaky signals is the first symptoms.

I just lost mine a couple of days ago. Check the SiliconDust site. There is info there on the troubled model and how to get it replaced.

AllenDB

06-29-08, 08:45 PM

Could be the start of a power suppy failure also. Seems like flaky signals is the first symptoms.
I just lost mine a couple of days ago. Check the SiliconDust site. There is info there on the troubled model and how to get it replaced.
Oh. oh! Hmmm, now I got two paths to follow.

AllenDB

06-30-08, 05:56 PM

I upgraded the firmware and the red in the symbol quality went away. Darn I should have checked it before I upgraded. I ordered a new power adapter too just in case. Thanks all.

amadeus00

07-02-08, 01:49 PM

I've had my Fusion 5 Lite for 3 years now and have been working well in MCE2005. I recently upgraded my HTPC (hardware) and installed Vista x86 but used my trusty Lite tuner. I never had signal problem or freezes with MCE and now I am having constant freezes on all channels. Is this common with Vista or is there a fix? I've got the latest drivers from Dvico.

AllenDB

07-05-08, 12:04 PM

I searched the thread 'cause I know we talked about this before,,,,,, didn't we? After putting the Fusion card back at the top of the priority list it started being used again and the first thing I noticed is that it is only recording the/one subchannel. I looked in the registry and found SubChannelRecord set to one. If I turn this flag off will it record the whole stream thus making my REW and FF buttons a bit more useful? I did turn it off and will do a test later to see what happens but I thought I'd drop the query here too.

I wonder if this flag got turned (back) on when I installed 3.68

I forgot to say that I searched the Fusion UI for this option and didn't see it/any.

TPeterson

07-05-08, 05:36 PM

AllenDB

07-05-08, 07:24 PM

Allen--
Yes, the default setting is subchannel only. You can capture full TS only for OTA, and the GUI setting is located in the manual recording dialog, accessed via ctrl-R amongst other ways. You'll probably also want to turn off the auto-date thingie, which is accessed in the manual scheduling dialog (Don't ask). ;)
I had found and turned off the auto-date stuff. Caught me off guard at first thinking all my stuff had gone to hell in a hand basket:o That was old.

Tried recordings with SubChannel Record on and off and at first glance (AFG) it seems not to make a difference. Guess I better turn the flag back on then follow up on what your suggestion. If I find the GUI stuff I'll see if it changes that flag.

Thanks Terry.

Hmmmm, haven't found it yet. But I'm taking another tack on this.

That tack didn't work. SubChannelRecord is being turned back on. Look into this a bit more.