Let's see, you installed a new capture device and windows is now using the new device by default to serve out it's video feed and your mad at the 'gay' software that came with your new capture device?

You don't say what your OS is but go to your control panel and change the default capture device back to your web cam or whatever. And messenger options might have a setting for the device to use. Now that you now have more than capture device in your machine your going to have to tell some of your software which one to use...

XP, there is no default capture device setting

You can change the video source in Messenger it's under

Tools->Audio and Video Setup...

Anyone have an idea why the Fusion software stops recording part way through a scheduled recording? First one of the day seems fine, but recording something else on a different channel immediately after seems hit or miss lately. I am running Vista if that helps.

Which FusionHDTV app version are you running and what Fusion tuner(s) do you have installed?

Which FusionHDTV app version are you running and what Fusion tuner(s) do you have installed?
Opps, you're right, forgot. Fusion HDTV 5 Gold (PCI) with software version 3.68.96...the latest. However the recordings were cutting off on previous software also, including versions 3.68.06 and 3.68.

Other computer information just in case: Operating system, Vista w/SP1 on an ASUS P5W DH Deluxe motherboard with an Intel Xeon 3085 processor, 8 gigs of Crucial PC6400 ram with an Nvidia 8800GT 512 graphics card.

Only other problem I had was one ram chip was not seated properly and showed up as bad. After reseating, tested extensively and no problems.

Can you correlate the shortened recording events with any particular channel(s)? I'm not aware of any issues with the F5Gold drivers, so I suspect that your problem is with signal strength or extreme multipath reception (if OTA).

Can you correlate the shortened recording events with any particular channel(s)? I'm not aware of any issues with the F5Gold drivers, so I suspect that your problem is with signal strength or extreme multipath reception (if OTA).

Might this have anything to do with my Vista install is 64bit? I am thinking about upgrading to the FusionHDTV7 dual tuner card which has drivers for Vista, 64 bit.

UPDATE: completely removed the FusionHDTV software and drivers and installed version 3.64. Everything seems rock solid again.

FURTHER UPDATE: Bad ram chip, that's what I found was the root of my problems.

It could. But it sounds more likely to be signal, since you say it's "hit or miss". Sw usually either does one or the other consistently.

Hi folks,

I'm having a very strange issue I hope you guys can help me solve. I've owned my Fusion 5 USB since mid '06 and it's given me years of good service until now.

I recently installed Windows 7 x64 on my machine in a dual-boot config. I installed the DVICO x64 drivers and HDHomerun setup on Win7, then I ran MCE setup on Win7 and it detected all 3 of my tuners no problem. But only the HDHomerun could tune channels correctly.

In the Fusion app, Auto channel scan picks up the correct RF channels and type "256Q or 64Q", but none of the subchannels show up at all, nor is there anything in the "encrypt" field. It's like it can scan the channels but not actually tune them. Trying to tune the channel in the app yields a 90-100% signal but blank screen.

No biggie, I figured the Fusion wasn't yet Win7 compatible, so I booted back to WinXP.

Now under WinXP it's having the exact same issue. I've uninstalled the drivers and the application using the DVICO setup and then reinstalled everything including beta 3.69. Same issue recurs. Signal on the cable is fine and is working with my HDHomeRun (and was working with my fusion until recently).

I'm not sure how to do a thorough uninstall including registry - I recall a link on an old AVS thread but I'm not sure it still applies to F5-generation cards.

Is it possible that the Fusion install program actually updates the firmware on the fusion USB itself, and somehow I've hosed that? If so, how can I force it back to an earlier version?

Any help appreciated and many thanks.
---DanQ

Core2Duo 6400@3.0 GHz
4 GB DDR2
Gigabyte P965-DS3 MB
WinXP SP3 (32-bit), Win7 RC1 (64-bit)
NVIDIA 8800GT 512MB
Fusion 5 USB
HDHomerun

After Power Down try UNPLUG from outlet at least 3minutes.

tc1 - Not sure what you're asking me to unplug. I've certainly unplugged the Fusion USB from the computer for more than 3 minutes and replugged with no love. Have also shut down/restarted the PC but I can't see how that would make a difference.

---DanQ

Unplug the PC. Has worked for me, BUT I am not using USB. What's to lose?

OK, I have done a ton of reading and didn't come up with anything to help my situation. I recently picked up a F5 RT Lite because it was relatively cheap. I put it in my system which already has an old F2 in it. They refuse to work together. Anytime I try and access the analog tuner (for cable recording) it spits out an error about being unable to connec to to the deinterlacer filter. It then will receive audio, but no video.

The digital side will work-but only in the Fusion software. I had been using WatchHDTV to view real-time OTA TV because of it's small footprint, but it crashes if I have both of these cards in the system.

My system: Intel E4500 on a Gigabyte P35 MB, WinXP SP3, ATI2600XT

I have tried: different versions of the software, Kaxkid uninstall/reinstall, nuke and pave reinstall of XP (needed it anyway), moving PCI slots - even though the system (both XP and BIOS) reports the cards using different IRQs.

Nothing has any effect. I have narrowed it down to the WDM Video Capture driver by completely installing one card, verifying function, and then adding the other card one driver at a time until the problem reoccurs.

Now, it appears that these cards actually use the same Capture driver, although it is installed separately for each card. So it appears that the system is having trouble distinguishing between the two cards despite the different IRQs and resource allocations.

I have run out of troubleshooting ideas. Aside from switching to a card that uses different drivers, does anyone have any ideas?

Oh, I also have a F7 USB, that works fine both Digital/analog even with both of the other cards in the system - even WatchHDTV can access it without problem.

Thanks in advance....

It sounds to me as though the F2 and F5RT are flatly incompatible and it's time to move on.

It sounds to me as though the F2 and F5RT are flatly incompatible and it's time to move on.

LOL. Yeah, that was pretty much my conclusion. I was just hoping against hope that someone might have some small thing that I might not have thought of :)

I just installed 3.68 (?) on a newly whacked box. The file names generated by a recording are prepended with some garbage. I poked around the config menus but did not see a way to turn this off. If there a config option or a registry setting that I forgot about?

Hi Allen,

In the Recording Scheduler, uncheck Automatic Date Maker.

-Dave

Thanks Dave. Gotta spare set of eyeballs laying around.

3.70 sucks.. more info why in a later post

Dutifully did a rescan this morning and it hit the fan. Now I get continuously recurring "access violation" error boxes and "Menu index out of range" any time I click the mouse.

I know I forgot to clear the Favorites something from somewhere and if somebody can remind me where it is I will or whatever else it takes. Rather do that than uninstall and reinstall. On 3.68. Thanks.

Allen, the Favorites menu is accessed via the "star" icon on the control panel. But I'm not sure that you'll be able to get to it while being inundated by a.v. errors.

Hi everybody,

I'm using a Dvico Fusion5 Gold (USB) device on my WinXP Pro SP2 (32-bit) HTPC, and am presently running version 3.61 of Dvico software (released on April 6, 2007).

I'm planning on rolling back my HTPC to a backup made prior to the Dvico installation so I can install Dvico software anew (and not have to deal with the uninstall/reinstall issues I've read about). The 3.61 version has had some quirks on my machine when recording OTA HD (I've lost a few programs as a result), and I just want to see if one of the subsequent Dvico software releases will eliminate them.

I am wondering what version I should try, as Dvico makes all their Fusion5 Gold software revisions available for download (http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Download/Software.aspx). I don't need Vista compatibility, just good stability and operation on WinXP Pro SP2 for recording OTA HD. Any input from the community here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. :)

All better now. Managed to get to the Favorites screen and delete all.

I use 3.68 and am quite happy as long as one deletes all the favorite entries before doing a rescan. Actually the rescan was not necessary because I knew Fox, NBC and CBS would stay where they were. ABC disappeared, went back to VHF, turning my 7' UHF antenna into a big weather vane as regards recording ABC. But thats why I have 2 HDPVRs.

Vlad--

AFAIK, the F5USB unit works well with all the recent versions of FusionHDTV. I suggest that you go either with the current official release (3.80) or the immediately preceding one (3.68.04) when you upgrade. Since 3.80 has been out such a short while, 3.68.04 is less likely to have undiscovered problems.

Also, for most people the uninstall/reinstall issues aren't as troublesome with 3.6x as they were with some earlier versions. Using the KAXKID procedure still is the safest course, but it's probably overkill in most instances (and even at that it's not as inconvenient as backing up to a more than 2-year-old configuration, IMO).

Vlad--

AFAIK, the F5USB unit works well with all the recent versions of FusionHDTV. I suggest that you go either with the current official release (3.80) or the immediately preceding one (3.68.04) when you upgrade. Since 3.80 has been out such a short while, 3.68.04 is less likely to have undiscovered problems.

Also, for most people the uninstall/reinstall issues aren't as troublesome with 3.6x as they were with some earlier versions. Using the KAXKID procedure still is the safest course, but it's probably overkill in most instances (and even at that it's not as inconvenient as backing up to a more than 2-year-old configuration, IMO).

Thanks... I'll kick the tires on the latest and greatest. If I have problems, I know where to take them :)

Those of you waiting for audio in win 7, 3.80 does not address that. Although the performance is much improved.

Those of you waiting for audio in win 7, 3.80 does not address that. Although the performance is much improved.What audio issue are you seeing? I've been having no problems with that at all in Win7 with either 3.68.04 or 3.80 when using SPDIF output....

Thats good news, but I still am not getting any audio after trying different configs. Im not sure what my audio settings are supposed to be... have a rt5 pci, audigy 2, win 7. I am not having any other audio problems in win 7. hmm.

Have you tried the audio options available in FusionHDTV setup and none of them give you any output?

Thats good news, but I still am not getting any audio after trying different configs. Im not sure what my audio settings are supposed to be... have a rt5 pci, audigy 2, win 7. I am not having any other audio problems in win 7. hmm.
I had a problem like that some time ago.
Right click speaker icon on the taskbar and select "Open Volume Mixer" and make sure that the FusionHDTV as not been muted. Documented here:
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/Eng/Support/FAQVista.aspx?act=RD&id=370&pg=0&CATID=16

I had a problem like that some time ago.
Right click speaker icon on the taskbar and select "Open Volume Mixer" and make sure that the FusionHDTV as not been muted. Documented here:
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/Eng/Support/FAQVista.aspx?act=RD&id=370&pg=0&CATID=16

That was it, thanks!

I, too, am having audio problems. Whenever I close FusionHDTV (or sometimes even when I just change channels) the Wave input in my Realtek HD Audio Controller goes "Muted" and stays that way until I "uncheck" the Mute box. Other than this, all seems well.

I'm running the ver. 3.80 s/w on a Fusion3Gold pci card.

I've tried various combinations of settings of Fusion audio configuration but nothing seems to help.

Anyone have any ideas?


I have tried the registry patch given on the Fusion HDTV FAQs with no success. My OS is XPsp3.

I did a Windows XP sp 3 reinstall when I got a new MB and hard drives and video card. Everything seems to be OK with the Fusion 5 Gold running on the newest software (3.8?)
except that when I record a program and play it back the recorded length indicators on the OCD shows half the time values for the actual program. A one hour program shows up as 30 min in the OCD but plays the full hour. It is minor but irritating. Anyone have a clue what's going on?

hey what card/cards would you guys recommend for me....i have two physical coax antenna cables because i have 2 different directions....so these tuners that only have one coax input are worthless...additionally i am looking only to tune into digital so i have no need for analog signals...basically i want to record 2 shows at once OTH from 2 different coax signals....any suggestions for a card or two cards (that are fully compatible)

Ryan

HDHomerun

yea but thats around 150-200 when most others are 50-75...any other suggestions??? If not thats fine i understand sometimes you get what you pay for but im just trying to figure it all out

I don't think that there are any dual-input dual-tuner models for 50-75....

My favorite retailer (http://www.digitalconnection.com/Products/Video/hdhomerun.asp) has the HDHR for close to the bottom of the range that you mentioned. ;)

Never mind, I did a reinstall of the Fusion software and that solved the problem.

Never mind, I did a reinstall of the Fusion software and that solved the problem.

Really!

I often have MyHD time 2, 3, 4 times the actual time of the program.

Fast Forward x 8 appears to FF x 0.25.

I also have seen Fusion times also many times the actual length of a program.

But I do not remember shorter times showing like you report. The incorrect longer times comes and goes but other files show more normal times.

Many reinstalls of both MyHD and Fusion since I saw this first.

Was there anything else you did, or was it just Fusion.

If I could just get to reinstalling everything with a fresh copy of XP SP3!

After I finally got one of my four remotes fixed, my brand new 2 TB Network Attached Storage (NAS) started failing.:mad:

I have one more movie left to get off it and then it's in for repair.

I was going for a record of lost data, ~ 600 Gigs! But I got all the rest off and the movie I may have on DVD anyway.

SHF

P.S. If you do not hear from me for a long time, I will be in jail for burning down Murphy's house a 1/2 mile away.

Anyone able to get Win 7 to allow the Fusion 5 to decode QAM?? Windows 7 only sees it as an ATSC tuner...

Thanks

I assume that you're talking about Media Center, since FusionHDTV sees all the tuner's functions under Win7 as well as under any other Windows.

I assume that you're talking about Media Center, since FusionHDTV sees all the tuner's functions under Win7 as well as under any other Windows.

I'm sorry, I am having the issue using Media Center.

I'm having the same issue, no QAM love in windows 7 RTM for a fusion 5 gold card. I've tried the powertoy registry hack as well and no luck with that either. Anyone had any luck with this card in media center?

Is it a matter of Dvico releasing Media Center driver?

Anyone able to get Win 7 to allow the Fusion 5 to decode QAM?? Windows 7 only sees it as an ATSC tuner...

Thanks

I also have this problem. All my ATSC channels are coming in on cable, but none of the Digital channels (which are there) including HD are being tuned.

Fusion HDTV 5 RT Gold
Win7 Ultimate x64 Retail from my Technet Subscription.
8 GB Ram
3.6 Ghz Quad CPU (bus is locked at standard speeds, all done with pure CPU multiplier and stable in 100 degree heat).
4870 ATI video


I'm open to two solutions:

1) Forcing MCE to Decode the unencrypted Digital channels (which were there before the clean install of Win 7) I prefer this because time-shifting in DVICO software has NEVER worked for me.
2) Installing *cringe* Fusion HDTV software. What version I don't know.

I've had SO many problems with fusion's HDTV software and drivers, I'm afraid they'll hose my system like so many times before.

Advice and comments VERY welcome.

I guess I got Fusion all upset but don't know how. I schedule a recording and it records in windows media format with a .wmv extension. I looked all over the configuration screens but didn't see anything. Is there a configuration or registry setting that fixes this?



Pardon me, I may have figured it out,,,,,,,,, just frustrating.

I have to stop leaving the Fusion card alone while on trips. I was gone all last week, opening of the TV season, and set up 11 recordings on the Fusion card. 1 mon, 2 Tue, 2 Wed, 3 Thu and 3 Fri. Got back yesterday and groaned. Mon and Tue nights it recorded fine. But come Wed, Thu and Fri it went dead or at least did no recording.:(

From now on, for trips, I'll just take the Fusion tuners out of the picture. I've got 4 others that can do the job.

Yes, Allen, I find that the Fusion tuner in my "production" system (i.e., the one that I'm not constantly fiddling with) is very reliable for recordings. But I frequently break something on the other two such that I need to fiddle with FusionHDTV again to get it backed out of the weeds. These HTPCs are fragile critters indeed and FusionHDTV appears to be more vulnerable than average to collateral damages.

P.S.: Dave P's tactic of restarting Windows via a scheduled task of "shutdown (http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/shutdown.mspx?mfr=true) -r -f" on his recording PCs every week (or is it everyday?) is the best remedial measure that I know of.

My "away from home" schedule wakes the PC at 11:05pm, reboots the PC a few minutes later, schedules program for the next day, and then hibernates the PC.

I added the reboot step because my Fusion installs would sometimes crash on exit, but i have not seen that problem in a long time. I still like the daily reboot since it clears any issue that happened during the previous 24 hours.

-Dave

... But I frequently break something on the other two such that I need to fiddle with FusionHDTV again to get it backed out of the weeds. ...

Hi,

I have had much fewer problems with FusionHDTV since I stopped using "VLC media player".

Not to say that it is OK, just not as bad.

SHF

I have to stop leaving the Fusion card alone while on trips. I was gone all last week, opening of the TV season, and set up 11 recordings on the Fusion card. 1 mon, 2 Tue, 2 Wed, 3 Thu and 3 Fri. Got back yesterday and groaned. Mon and Tue nights it recorded fine. But come Wed, Thu and Fri it went dead or at least did no recording.:(

I use the Fusion 5 USB Gold product, and have encountered the same problem. It appears that when Fusion application crashes after a particular scheduled recording, any subsequent recordings in the schedule queue are lost. I once lost 2 weeks worth of programs while away from home, so I feel your pain :)


My "away from home" schedule wakes the PC at 11:05pm, reboots the PC a few minutes later, schedules program for the next day, and then hibernates the PC.

I added the reboot step because my Fusion installs would sometimes crash on exit, but i have not seen that problem in a long time. I still like the daily reboot since it clears any issue that happened during the previous 24 hours.

-Dave

Are you running WinXP, by chance? How can I set up my HTPC to do what you've described here? TIA.

Are you running WinXP, by chance? How can I set up my HTPC to do what you've described here? TIA.Yes, I am using XP.

Assuming your are familiar with Task Scheduler, a good wakeup task is "cmd /c", since this command does nothing. I prefer to use a command that does nothing for the wakeup task to give the PC a few minutes to stabilze after waking up.

A few minutes later, you can schedule "shutdown -r -f". This command will force hung applications to close and reboot the PC.

You mentioned that your schedule queue is lost after the Fusion app hangs. The only way to get around this is to use a scheduling app such as CW_EPG or Record_This. The "shutdown -r -f" command will clear a hung Fusion app and prepare Fusion to receive the next day's reservations from CW_EPG or Record_This (both of which can be scheduled in Task Scheduler).

After scheduling, you can let the PC go to sleep on it's own using the Windows Power Settings, or you can use a utility, such as Hibernate.exe that you can find by doing a Google search.

-Dave

Yes, I am using XP.

Assuming your are familiar with Task Scheduler, a good wakeup task is "cmd /c", since this command does nothing. I prefer to use a command that does nothing for the wakeup task to give the PC a few minutes to stabilze after waking up.

A few minutes later, you can schedule "shutdown -r -f". This command will force hung applications to close and reboot the PC.

You mentioned that your schedule queue is lost after the Fusion app hangs. The only way to get around this is to use a scheduling app such as CW_EPG or Record_This. The "shutdown -r -f" command will clear a hung Fusion app and prepare Fusion to receive the next day's reservations from CW_EPG or Record_This (both of which can be scheduled in Task Scheduler).

After scheduling, you can let the PC go to sleep on it's own using the Windows Power Settings, or you can use a utility, such as Hibernate.exe that you can find by doing a Google search.

-Dave

Thanks for the reply. I hope you don't mind, and would please bear with me (I've never used Task Scheduler in WinXP... or any version of Windows!), but I've done some research, and have come up with a question: Did you use the Task Scheduler Wizard to set up your task(s), then edit the properties of the sceduled task item... or did you use the command line string "at.exe" to run a "*.bat" file? I read about the latter *here* (http://www.onlinetoolworks.com/docs/winTaskSched.doc).

Here's what the above linked source says regarding "Command Line Scheduling" using "at.exe":

Command Line Scheduling

Windows provides a command line utility called at.exe that can be used to add, delete and change scheduled tasks. For example, to run a .bat file called test.bat at 2pm every day could be setup by typing the following at a command prompt (cmd.exe):

at.exe 14:00 /every:m,t,w,th,f,s,su c:\test\test.bat

Using the command line to maintain your tasks can be convenient especially if you need to setup the tasks on multiple computers. You could create one .bat file that has all of your tasks and then just run it on the computers that have the need to run the same tasks.

Notice that the user was not specified in the above command. The user will be that of the Task Scheduler service which is by default the Local System Account. This may or may not be sufficient for running your task. The at.exe command line syntax does not provide a way to set Windows account and password.


Once again, thank you. I appreciate any additional insights you can provide here.

i have never tried the AT command. Also, I don't use the wizard.

I just go to Scheduled Tasks from the Control Panel, right-click inside the Scheduled Tasks window, and select New>Scheduled Task. I name the task, double-click on it, and then select all the options I want.

I suggest you start with something simple, such as a task that launches Notepad. Once you get the hang of it, it is pretty easy to use.

Most of the commands are pretty self-explanatory. For example, you need to check "wake the computer . . ." for your wakeup task.

-Dave

@DPlettner

Thanks for your responses! I'm getting closer...

I successfully created the Restart task to execute "shutdown -r -f".

The creation of the Restart task (not to mention *any* scheduled task) requires you to enter a password for your WinXP user account. So I made a password, and set the task to restart the PC.

When the PC rebooted, WinXP prompts for the login password before it will finish loading the Windows desktop. Is there any way around the password to log in?

Thanks again for all your help, Dave :)

Sorry that I forgot about all the password stuff. This is what I do.

1) Add a password to your XP account (you have already done this). Since you really do not need a password, make it something simple. You can also make the password hint equal to the password itself.

2) Set Windows to supply the password on bootup. My favorite way to do this is to grab the TweakUI Power Toy (http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx) from Microsoft. Run TweakUI, expand the logon tree, and click Autologon. If you don't want to install TweakUI, you should be able to do the same thing by going to Run from the Start menu, and launching:

control userpasswords2

3) When you create tasks, first uncheck "Run only if logged on" and click Apply. In the Run As box, supply your computer name and username, and then set the password. Click Apply. Then check "Run only if logged on" and click Apply again. I am not sure why all this is necessary, but it does seem to make all my tasks run smoothly.

If you follow all these steps, hopefully your "shutdown -r -f" task will work perfectly.

-Dave

Sorry that I forgot about all the password stuff. This is what I do.
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If you follow all these steps, hopefully your "shutdown -r -f" task will work perfectly.

-Dave

Thank you once again, Dave. I will try out your suggestions and report back :)

Vlad--

You also will want to uncheck the box that says "Prompt for password upon resume" in Power Options configuration.

Vlad--

You also will want to uncheck the box that says "Prompt for password upon resume" in Power Options configuration.And if you run a screen saver, don't forget the checkbox on the screen saver page that requires you to enter a password when you exit the screen saver.

Thank you once again, Dave. I will try out your suggestions and report back :)

Okay, I installed TweakUI. Took a few trial-and-error attempts to get the scheduled reboot perfect without password login (and in one particularly scary instance, I temporarily locked myself out of my XP machine :eek:), but I finally got that one down. Thanks a bunch, Dave.


Vlad--

You also will want to uncheck the box that says "Prompt for password upon resume" in Power Options configuration.

@TPeterson:
Thanks, that option had been previously set. Quick question, though. Do you know if the Fusion 5 Gold USB product works better when waking up from WinXP standby (settings saved to RAM) or WinXP hibernate (settings saved to hard disk prior to PC shutoff)? I ask because under Device Manager I've had to set all USB hubs to disable the "Allow the computer to turn off this device to save power" option. If I didn't do this, the PC would wake up from standby, but would be unable to connect to the Fusion USB Gold device via USB (Fusion application gives a device error message). It seems the USB hubs were not properly turning back on when the PC wakes up. I was thinking that maybe I should try hibernate, but wasn't sure if I would have the same issue (USB does not resume properly from a system wakeup). Do you have any suggestions here? Thanks!


And if you run a screen saver, don't forget the checkbox on the screen saver page that requires you to enter a password when you exit the screen saver.

Check. I use the XP Powertoys Wallpaper Changer app as my default screensaver, with the no password required option set :)


My sincerest appreciation goes to the both of you for your generous assistance!

Hibernate's resume may be less troublesome, since that involves a more complete hw reset than S3 resume.

As Terry pointed out to me version 3.81 can do H.264 if the proper codec is on the machine. First question, how do I know if I have the codec and if not how do I get it? Second, is upgrading from 3.68 a slick and painless.

Oh, someone got a link?? Thanks.

Allen, I suspect that your TME installation has supplied the H.264 codec that FusionHDTV 3.81 (ftp://anonymous:fireftp@example.com@ftp.dvico.com/Products/FusionHDTV/down/FusionHDTV3.81.exe) needs.

if you are unsure if you have h 264 go to http://www.afreecodec.com/26/h264-codec/ or http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Codec-Packs-Video-Codecs/x264.shtml

And the 64..... question, do I do the full KaxKid procedure or can I get away with an over install?

You need to uninstall and reinstall, but you can save the Fusion registry (via the "save" button in config) and then reload it after the reinstallation so that you'll have all of your settings and channels back. Do the uninstallation from Add/Remove Programs.

I'm in the process of doing a Windows7 Ultimate 64 install (dual boot 'cause I'm chicken). Does anyone have any experience with the Fusion5 Gold & Windows7? Will they be happy together?

The latest FusionHDTV (3.81) installs and runs fine in Win7 without needing any "compatibility" settings (just make sure that you give it write permissions to the needed folders). I haven't installed an F5 Gold under it yet, so there's possibly an issue with that that would require a compatibility switch, but I'd try it first without one.

running both F5-RT(2) and F7 Dual (1) under Win7 Prof x64 - it's all good w/3.81 drivers !!!!
Been running the RTM release for @ 2 months.

until they update the rest of the driver series, the only one that got updated in 3.81 was the express version. the rest of the drivers are from 2 years ago
ever since tv pack came out and going on to windows 7, i have been unable to to run my 2 fusion 5 usbs at the same time. if i have 2 installed one is usually bugged in the device manager with an exclaimation point and resuming from standby causes them to be unavailable and the driver to use up insane amounts of cpu time

DViCo does not recommend running more than one USB tuner per PC.

I'm running a fusion 5 lite and a fusion 5 gold in SageTV. On the lite card I will get fluctuating signal strength from 100%, 99% and then it drops to 0%, then back up to 100%. I've tried to remove the amplification, I've tried removing splitters, I've tried adding splitters.. and updating drivers....

I'm out of things to try anyone have any suggestions for me? Edit: I just noticed that I sharring an IRQ with my video card, I will see if I can try swapping slots tomorrow.

flips

Flips, I suspect a loose connection someplace. I hope that it's in the cable/antenna leads and not on the F5 lite itself....

DViCo does not recommend running more than one USB tuner per PC.

where exactly does it say that?

if you go to this page http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/Eng/Support/FAQInstallation.aspx?act=RD&id=119&pg=1

it says this
Does a 3rd party software support multiple FusionHDTV cards?



It definitely does. FusionHDTV BDA driver supports multiple card configuration so you can watch one channel and record another. Any combination of our cards can be multiply instantiated like the following:

1) Same model of multiple FusionHDTV cards
2) Different model of FusionHDTV cards
3) Same model of multiple FusionHDTV USB modules
4) USB + PCI model combinations.

I have 3 fusion gold usb devices and use to be able to with A LOT of work and luck get all 3 to work together. But I haven't been able to even get 2 to work together any more (It was hard with XP but impossible with Vista). Tech support was USELESS and I finally gave up on using more than 1 at a time. The other two are just collecting dust.

where exactly does it say that?Email from DViCo tech support on 4/13/2008:

"We don’t recommend 2 USB device now."

Perhaps this has changed, but I suspect that the link that you quoted refers only to using 3rd party apps with the BDA driver and not FusionHDTV.if you go to this page http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/Eng/Support/FAQInstallation.aspx?act=RD&id=119&pg=1

it says this
Does a 3rd party software support multiple FusionHDTV cards?....In any case, I've not had good luck using more than one USB tuner at a time.

I'm assuming, since DVICO doesn't mention the 7 USB device in the Windows 7 3.81 update, that there is no windows 7 driver for the 7 USB? Or is that only referring to support under WMC?

Thanks,
CHris

Chris, I believe that all the Fusion devices work under Win7, although some of them may need to be installed using an XP compatibility mode (not the XP VM machine). I'm not happy with some of these (e.g., F7USB and F7 Cool) even under WinXP but AFAIK they should work as well in Win7 as in XP (after you've turned off UAC at least).

3.81 up and running on my dev machine. After I got the decoder 'correctly' setup it now can display H.264 with a faint jerkiness. My proc is maxxed out as I figured it would be. Thanks.

I programmed my Fusion Gold 5 USB to record "Heroes" tonight, but when I went to check the recording, I was greeted with this:
(Spoiler tags used, click on the "Show" button to see the image.)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh18/FoolsTalk/fusionerror.jpg

Anyone else ever see this happen on their HTPC?

...And, of course, Fusion didn't record "Heroes", dammit :mad:

I haven't seen that for quite a while on a stable configuration, Vlad. I think that it means that your installation is not correct (anymore). It can happen if you make changes to your PC, even ones that you wouldn't expect to impact FusionHDTV's operation.

Time to brush up on KAXKID's procedure and reinstall.

I programmed my Fusion Gold 5 USB to record "Heroes" tonight, but when I went to check the recording, I was greeted with this:
(Spoiler tags used, click on the "Show" button to see the image.)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh18/FoolsTalk/fusionerror.jpg

Anyone else ever see this happen on their HTPC?

...And, of course, Fusion didn't record "Heroes", dammit :mad:

Ah, yes. Happens every once in awhile. I only wish I knew what the error message meant.

I haven't seen that for quite a while on a stable configuration, Vlad. I think that it means that your installation is not correct (anymore). It can happen if you make changes to your PC, even ones that you wouldn't expect to impact FusionHDTV's operation.

Time to brush up on KAXKID's procedure and reinstall.

Hi,

No reinstall was necessary when I saw this message(s). Just restarting your HTPC will clear this up, you may need to start task manager to kill FusionHDTV (Needs to permanently killed perhaps, see others comments.).

I think this is due to starting FusionHDTV when the previous run has not ended cleanly, or not even been given time to exit before starting again.

The last time I saw this was when I clicked twice very quickly on the Icon starting two copies.

SHF

Flips, I suspect a loose connection someplace. I hope that it's in the cable/antenna leads and not on the F5 lite itself....

Thanks for that tip... I Checked all the cable connections, tightened everything up and no difference.

Then I took out the card to swap slots, and gave it a once over looking for any broken solder connections or something. I found that one of the screws that attaches the case bracket to the card was loose. I tightened that up, put it back into the original slot and 'poof' the problem went away! Now I get rock solid hd signal.

All the messing around that I did on that card and it was just a stinkin' loose screw...

Thanks again,
flips

I'm glad that the problem went away. It may have been the loose screw, or possibly just reseating in the PCI socket was the fix.

I have a FusionHDTV5 USB Gold. Is there some way to get Windows Media Player in Windows 7 to see it as a QAM tuner? It only detects analog channels.

I have a FusionHDTV5 USB Gold. Is there some way to get Windows Media Player in Windows 7 to see it as a QAM tuner? It only detects analog channels.
I sent Dvico a query about that and the answer is no, they don't have QAM support for it and it will "take some time" to "[work] towards a solution" for it.

That's disappointing. I'm not a Media Center addict or anything, but I just had Fusion's own player BSOD for the first time ever yesterday so I thought I should look for an alternative. I've run the Fusion player under Windows 7 before with no major problems, but yesterday for some reason I got a BSOD when I tried starting Yahoo Messenger with Fusion running. It's probably some Aero problem, but I like Aero.

I sent Dvico a query about that and the answer is no, they don't have QAM support for it and it will "take some time" to "[work] towards a solution" for it.

Just ran into this after a fresh 7 install yesterday.

I'm mainly using this machine to watch OTA HD and torrented video (while I still can).

For those who use it, is MC compelling enough to upgrade my tuner? The channel guide seems a nice addition.

I am still on MCE 2005. Very happy with the TV portion of it but do not use any of the rest of it. TIVO type capability and very good EPG and captioning. It takes a workaround for DTV because it was designed for annalog but after that it is good to go. I have been planning on checking out Win 7 to see what it looks like now that it is upgraded for digital. BTW have Fusion5 PCIe and OTA only.

The workaround is actually for the EPG.

Comcast has just switched from STD to IRC freq's in my area.

With my current setup I am unable to receive CLEAR QAM HD Digital signals on my Divco fusion 5 usb gold anymore. This change of freq's has been verified by finding them with a HDTV scanning on IRC freq's.

How do I enable/scan IRC freq's on the DVICO fusion 5 usb gold?

Is there a irc_frequency.reg as there is for HRC?

Any Help Would Be Greatly Appreciated. :)

Cheers.

Alice--

I'm not aware of a prefab .reg file for IRC, but if you have the HRC one, I expect that you can edit it to create the IRC version with a little help from this ARRL page (http://www.arrl.org/tis/info/catv-ch.html) or this site's IRC formula (http://www.jneuhaus.com/fccindex/cablech.html#irc).

Alice--

I'm not aware of a prefab .reg file for IRC, but if you have the HRC one, I expect that you can edit it to create the IRC version with a little help from this .

Yeah I can give that a shot..

I've had a strange problem with my cable modem lately... and I now realized that my Fusion 5 TV tuner backfeeds something to the cable which causes the problem to the cable modem

(Note: I have a cable splitter: 1 output goes to the cable modem, and the other goes to the Fusion 5 tuner card in my PC)

I know it's strange but after many times testing, I am quite sure that's what happens.

I just want to ask if anyone has any comment/solution regarding my issue.

Thanks in advance!

Are you sure that the "backfeed" is not simply noise of a ground loop in your power line connections? It's possible that the tuner is malfunctioning and actually emitting interference onto the cable, but it's far more likely that the modem is being upset by a ground loop.

Well, I had 2 Comcast technicians come here (at different times) to check on problem with the cable modem. They did not see anything wrong with the modem or the setup.

And as for my "theory", when the modem has problem, I disconnect the coax cable going to the Fusion TV tuner, and the problem goes away immediately :confused:

Yes, and that's totally consistent with the possibility that I mentioned of a ground loop. The best way to test that idea would be to insert an isolation rf transformer between the PC's cable and the modem's cable.

P.S.: An easier, but less conclusive test would be to reverse the computer's power plug in the socket and see if you still have the interference.

P.S.: An easier, but less conclusive test would be to reverse the computer's power plug in the socket and see if you still have the interference.

I can't reverse a 3-pin plug :)

But I believe in the ground loop now, so I need something like this, right?

http://www.amazon.com/Dayton-Audio-VIT-1-Isolation-Transformer/dp/B0002KR2RM/ref=pd_bxgy_e_img_a

Yes, just make sure that you don't put it in the line to the cable modem.

I have installed the latest Fusion s/w ver 3.81.01 .My OS is Vista SP2 . Fusion TV Gold USB works fine in receiving analog and freeQAM stations.

However when I try to schedule a recording with the computer in sleep mode , the scheduler will not work. I get this error message "Connect infTeefilter to timeshift failed". Once this happens , I will not be able to use Fusion TV till I reboot the computer.

The Scheduler will work fine if the computer is not in sleep mode .

I dont think the software meant to operate this way.

Any suggestions how to solve this problem? There is no reference to this problem at the Dvico website. Actually there is no place to even ask for technical support at their website. Thanks

sport--

That error message seems to indicate a problem with the installation. If you haven't tried to re-install 3.81.01, do that first, and if that doesn't solve the problem, I recommend that you review and try the KAXKID Procedure (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10921125&&#post10921125) to reinstall the app.

sport--

That error message seems to indicate a problem with the installation. If you haven't tried to re-install 3.81.01, do that first, and if that doesn't solve the problem, I recommend that you review and try the KAXKID Procedure (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10921125&&#post10921125) to reinstall the app.

Should I uninstall all drivers again before re installing? Do I install with the Dvico unit connected to the usb ports?

Read KAXKID's detailed instructions. That's why I gave you the link. ;)

I read the link . I found only one instance of Fusion TV in add/remove programs . I will use Revo Uninstaller instead because that program removes also some left over registry items .

Yes, I agree that Revo Uninstaller is a good move too.

It's very important that you don't skip any of the reboots also.

Hi All,

I was wondering if someone could review the Ubuntu dmesg and lsmod output below to see if you spot anything wrong with my DViCO FusionHDTV5 USB Gold tuners.

I am running Mythbuntu 10.04 and have tried setting it up very carefully using multiple setup instructions on wiki's, forums, and websites. This is my first time using MythTV.

It appears both my DVICO tuners are loading OK since I can see the blue lights turned on from the bottom.

Issue: I cannot get MythTV to scan for any channels or watch TV.

I tried scanning channels with both tuners, multiple cable lines, selecting multiple cable signal fomrats, nothing. If I plug in the cable line into a TV, all is well on the TV.

Does anything jump out at you from below?

please help, thanks.


DMESG:


[ 5264.788028] usb 2-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 9
[ 5264.920618] usb 2-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 5264.920941] dvb-usb: found a 'DViCO FusionHDTV5 USB Gold' in cold state, will try to load a firmware
[ 5264.920955] usb 2-4: firmware: requesting dvb-usb-bluebird-01.fw
[ 5264.924937] dvb-usb: downloading firmware from file 'dvb-usb-bluebird-01.fw'
[ 5265.027223] usb 2-4: USB disconnect, address 9
[ 5265.027336] dvb-usb: generic DVB-USB module successfully deinitialized and disconnected.
[ 5266.812028] usb 2-4: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 10
[ 5266.945650] usb 2-4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 5266.945951] dvb-usb: found a 'DViCO FusionHDTV5 USB Gold' in warm state.
[ 5266.946434] dvb-usb: will pass the complete MPEG2 transport stream to the software demuxer.
[ 5266.977149] DVB: registering new adapter (DViCO FusionHDTV5 USB Gold)
[ 5266.982721] DVB: registering adapter 0 frontend 0 (LG Electronics LGDT3303 VSB/QAM Frontend)...
[ 5266.983955] tuner-simple 1-0061: creating new instance
[ 5266.983967] tuner-simple 1-0061: type set to 64 (LG TDVS-H06xF)
[ 5266.984707] input: IR-receiver inside an USB DVB receiver as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb2/2-4/input/input7
[ 5266.984874] dvb-usb: schedule remote query interval to 100 msecs.
[ 5266.984888] dvb-usb: DViCO FusionHDTV5 USB Gold successfully initialized and connected.
[ 5302.796028] usb 2-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 11
[ 5302.928659] usb 2-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 5302.928942] dvb-usb: found a 'DViCO FusionHDTV5 USB Gold' in cold state, will try to load a firmware
[ 5302.928954] usb 2-3: firmware: requesting dvb-usb-bluebird-01.fw
[ 5302.932864] dvb-usb: downloading firmware from file 'dvb-usb-bluebird-01.fw'
[ 5303.033739] usb 2-3: USB disconnect, address 11
[ 5303.036972] dvb-usb: generic DVB-USB module successfully deinitialized and disconnected.
[ 5304.820027] usb 2-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 12
[ 5304.953660] usb 2-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[ 5304.953972] dvb-usb: found a 'DViCO FusionHDTV5 USB Gold' in warm state.
[ 5304.954457] dvb-usb: will pass the complete MPEG2 transport stream to the software demuxer.
[ 5304.985142] DVB: registering new adapter (DViCO FusionHDTV5 USB Gold)
[ 5304.989216] DVB: registering adapter 1 frontend 0 (LG Electronics LGDT3303 VSB/QAM Frontend)...
[ 5304.990469] tuner-simple 2-0061: creating new instance
[ 5304.990482] tuner-simple 2-0061: type set to 64 (LG TDVS-H06xF)
[ 5304.991189] input: IR-receiver inside an USB DVB receiver as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.7/usb2/2-3/input/input8
[ 5304.991412] dvb-usb: schedule remote query interval to 100 msecs.
[ 5304.991426] dvb-usb: DViCO FusionHDTV5 USB Gold successfully initialized and connected.





LSMOD:

Module Size Used by
videodev 34361 0
v4l1_compat 13251 1 videodev
tuner_simple 13577 2
tuner_types 14233 1 tuner_simple
lgdt330x 7570 2
dvb_usb_cxusb 36437 0
dib7000p 15988 1 dvb_usb_cxusb
dibx000_common 2974 1 dib7000p
dvb_usb 14457 1 dvb_usb_cxusb
dvb_core 86142 3 lgdt330x,dib7000p,dvb_usb
dib0070 7653 1 dvb_usb_cxusb
fbcon 35102 71
tileblit 2031 1 fbcon
font 7557 1 fbcon
bitblit 4707 1 fbcon
softcursor 1189 1 bitblit
vga16fb 11385 0
vgastate 8961 1 vga16fb
i915 282354 2
drm_kms_helper 29297 1 i915
drm 162471 3 i915,drm_kms_helper
i2c_algo_bit 5028 1 i915
lp 7028 0
video 17375 1 i915
parport 32635 1 lp
output 1871 1 video
intel_agp 24177 2 i915
joydev 8708 0
psmouse 63245 0
serio_raw 3978 0
agpgart 31724 2 drm,intel_agp
usbhid 36110 0
hid 67032 1 usbhid
usb_storage 39425 1
ahci 32008 2
e1000e 119856 0

flamaest--

I know almost nothing about Mythbuntu, but I do know that DViCo does not recommend using more than one of their USB tuners on a PC. That could be related to your problem.

I have a PCI Fusion HDTV Lite which registers the same chipset as the USB Fusion HDTV Gold (LG Electronics LGDT3303 VSB/QAM Frontend). It's not USB and I don't know at what level the drivers may differ but mine uses the bttv and dvb_bt8xx modules. I did not configure anything, the card was automatically recognized and the drivers loaded.

Aside from that, my dmesg logs coincides with yours.

Another thing to look into if you haven't already done so is in Mythtv-setup. Are you sure you selected the DTV DVB (v3.x) input card type?

Otherwise, I'd also suggest trying it out with only one tuner to see if it makes a difference.

Ianic

I have a FusionHDTV5 USB Gold. Is there some way to get Windows Media Player in Windows 7 to see it as a QAM tuner? It only detects analog channels.
I sent Dvico a query about that and the answer is no, they don't have QAM support for it and it will "take some time" to "[work] towards a solution" for it.
I'm not holding my breath, but I have a FusionHDTV5 Gold (PCI version) which doesn't see QAM under Win7 MC. Did DVICO ever release an updated driver? Has anyone had success in getting this combo to work?

For the first time in a long time I tried to use my Fusion card to record something last night. As I was watching something else I heard the depressing 'clunk' on the TV, went in and saw the depressing address error. TV is connected to the computer.

Just weeks before I used the Kaxkid procedure to reinstall 3.81.00. It reinstalled fine and seemed to run. I played some files and watched some OTA. But I neglected to try recording. That I will do as soon as I reinstall again. But, pardon my French, why in the hell does it go bad. Runs and then the next day (or so) I have to reinstall.

Allen, I'm still running 3.68 on my "production" HTPC using F5USB tuner and I've not had it go south for a very long time. (I use Dave Plettner's technique of auto-restarting Windows once a week on that system, which may be a key part of its stability since it tends to eliminate problems due to resource leaks) In my experience FusionHDTV is fragile w.r.t. other system modifications, but doesn't self destruct if the PC is not modified. Did you change something else (hw or sw) after the latest Fusion installation?

I reinstalled and its up and running. Testing using the Dvico scheduler and RT also seems OK. I'm now going to try what might be the problem, play an H.264 file.

Played, well tried to play an H.264 file. The sound came thru but no picture and the Fusion program was locked in that it could not be terminated. After ProcessViewer terminated it I brought it back up but did not get any address error. Now I'm really in a quandry as to why/how the Fusion app gets into its address error loop. But I'll be using it to record for awhile and hope for the best.

What codec were you using when trying to view the H.264 file? The Fusion one doesn't handle them, so you need to install and select an H.264-capable codec in configuration|Video.

What codec were you using when trying to view the H.264 file? The Fusion one doesn't handle them, so you need to install and select an H.264-capable codec in configuration|Video.
Set MPEG2 to the ATI decoder and H.264 to an ArcSoft decoder and it now plays H.264 using 100% of the proc.

Now I'll just keep an eye on it every night.

Something happened with my HDTV software for my Fusion 5 lite and I can't find a link to re-download the software in English!!

I googled the heck out of the stuff and only get Korean.

Does anyone know how to find any Dvico sites in ENGLISH, please.

http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Support/

http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Support/

The below is the English I get at the link posted

페이지를 찾을 수 없습니다.
찾으려는 페이지가 제거되었거나, 이름이 변경되었거나, 일시적으로 사용이 중단되었습니다.

다음을 시도하십시오.

* 브라우저의 주소 표시줄에 표시된 웹 사이트 주소의 철자와 형식이 정확한지 확인하십시오.
* 링크를 클릭하여 이 페이지에 연결한 경우 웹 사이트 관리자에게 링크가 잘못되었음을 알려주십시오.
* 뒤로 단추를 클릭하여 다른 링크를 시도하십시오.

HTTP 오류 404 - 파일 또는 디렉터리를 찾을 수 없습니다.
IIS(인터넷 정보 서비스)

기술 정보(지원 인력용)

* Microsoft 고객기술지원부로 이동하여 HTTP와 404이라는 단어로 제목을 검색하십시오.
* IIS 관리자(inetmgr)에서 액세스할 수 있는 IIS 도움말을 열어 웹 사이트 설정, 일반 관리 작업 및 사용자 지정 오류 메시지 항목을 검색하십시오.

Hi,

To answer my own question, I found the Fusion software on the Dvico FTP site. It's 3.9 and I was running 3.8 so it's certainly newer than what I had.

ftp://ftp.dvico.com/Products/FusionHDTV/

-Brian

Brian and uriah:

(Note the 404 error in uriah's post) It seems that there's a problem with the DViCo web server. The Google translation of the error message at http://www.dvico.com/ (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dvico.com%2F&sl=ko&tl=en&hl=&ie=UTF-8) (after you get done laughing) seems to say that it will be down from 19-22 November. Maybe it'll be back up by tomorrow?

I have a FusionHDTV RT Lite that I've used for years. Now I want to use a remote with it. Can I just buy the remote that come with the "Gold" version and everything will be fine? If so, who sells them? Can I just use any MCE remote? Will it work with the power up/down function in the Fusion card?

bump

I have a FusionHDTV 5 Gold & Lite which I've never been able to get to work reliably, neither with BeyondTV on Win XP and now WMC 7.

I was not even using these tuners in WMC7 but I still got system crashes with v3.90 and finally this week ran WinDbg on the MiniDump files, which indicated ZuluTcap and ZuluVcap were still crashing my system. So I removed the cards and software and have not had a crash since.

I have posted a bug report on Dvico's tech support site, but cannot figure out how to upload the MiniDump files. I click on the Doc Manager and get what appears to be a file browser dialog, but cannot get it to list files, or insert a file from a path.

Anyone know how to do this?

FWIW, I would stay far away from Dvico tuners as the driver sw is crap.

FWIW, your mileage may vary. Many people use FusionHDTV without crashes and even more use the drivers with WMC.

FWIW, your mileage may vary. Many people use FusionHDTV without crashes and even more use the drivers with WMC.

Thank you for your response.

Can you explain why the WinDbg MiniDump files would finger ZuluTcap and ZuluVcap as the cause of my system crashes? Or what to do to fix this?

Have you been able to upload files to DVico's new website? How?

Are they still even providing support?

Thanks again.

The minidump file can show that those drivers were present and active when the crash happened, but that's not the same as saying that they "caused" it. The DViCo software in my experience is more prone than average to damage from various other changes in software configuration, although it's been very stable for me under Win7. (I'm not using your particular tuners, however--and I'm vaguely recalling some issue with the F5 Lite under Win7, but I don't recall the details or whether that was resolved).

I haven't tried recently to upload files to DViCo and in any case I wouldn't bother to do so without a specific request from them in response to a trouble report on MyQ&A Forum.

My suggestion for trying to fix the problem is to completely uninstall FusionHDTV using Revo Uninstaller and then do a re-installation. Let us know if you then still see crashing before you've installed anything else new.

The minidump file can show that those drivers were present and active when the crash happened, but that's not the same as saying that they "caused" it. The DViCo software in my experience is more prone than average to damage from various other changes in software configuration, although it's been very stable for me under Win7. (I'm not using your particular tuners, however--and I'm vaguely recalling some issue with the F5 Lite under Win7, but I don't recall the details or whether that was resolved).

I haven't tried recently to upload files to DViCo and in any case I wouldn't bother to do so without a specific request from them in response to a trouble report on MyQ&A Forum.

My suggestion for trying to fix the problem is to completely uninstall FusionHDTV using Revo Uninstaller and then do a re-installation. Let us know if you then still see crashing before you've installed anything else new.

Mr. Peterson, I really appreciate your suggestions.

I have installed, and uninstalled FusionHDTV many times under Win XP without any improvement.

My last configuration was Win 7 Sp1 32 bit with a fresh install of v3.90.

I also tested Vista Sp1 32 bit with a fresh install of v3.90 on the same machine.

I was getting crashes with both configurations, though it was more stable with Vista than pre-SP1 Win 7.

It has been 4 days since I uninstalled the cards and software, without a crash. :knockonwood:

I ran Revo uninstaller, but it cannot find FusionHDTV to uninstall. Do I need to reinstall it, to uninstall with Revo?

The mere fact that FusionHDTV cannot properly uninstall itsself, indicates to me that they've done a poor job with their software.

As does your YMMV comment. It is possible (maybe difficult) to write software which works consistently across all installations. Apparently DVico has failed in this regard.

I personally would not (again) gamble on expensive hardware which has driver sw that is YMMV. Esp when it appears their tech support is non-existent.

Yes, the software does have to be installed for Revo to uninstall it.

It seems likely that there is some incompatibility between your PC's configuration and the Fusion hw/sw. As I've written on AVS Fusion threads before, there are some mobos that don't like some Fusion cards. If you've encountered one of those cases the Revo step won't solve anything. :(

I successfully use Fusion tuners, but they can be frustrating. I recently discovered that the Fusion 5 RT PCI driver does not like Win7/64 on my system, but my Fusion 5 USB works fine using Win7/64.

Given all you have been though, IMO life is too short to spend much more time trying to make it work. I recommend you get one of the new Silicon Dust HDHR3s. They have two tuners, and I have seen the price as low as $107 online. If you read up on this tuner, I think you will discover that very few people have issues with it.

-Dave

I successfully use Fusion tuners, but they can be frustrating. I recently discovered that the Fusion 5 RT PCI driver does not like Win7/64 on my system, but my Fusion 5 USB works fine using Win7/64.

Given all you have been though, IMO life is too short to spend much more time trying to make it work. I recommend you get one of the new Silicon Dust HDHR3s. They have two tuners, and I have seen the price as low as $107 online. If you read up on this tuner, I think you will discover that very few people have issues with it.

-Dave

Hi,

I second that suggestion. Since I added a second HDHR and stopped trying to record DTV using FusionHDTV (Fusion5 RT Gold and Fusion7 Dual) my computer crashes very much less (I still use FusionHDTV to play captures, it does the best job on less than pristine OTA stations but still aborts sometimes requiring a computer restart.)

KTNC is a low power station transmitting from a direction my antennas do not point in and is greatly affected by the weather. So I often receive a poor capture.

Good news, they are going to show "The Pit and the Pendulum" which I have not seen since the 1960's. With Elvira's snide comments a real winner. :p

Remember the old saying "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me". It applies to trying to use defective software just as well.

SHF

I successfully use Fusion tuners, but they can be frustrating. I recently discovered that the Fusion 5 RT PCI driver does not like Win7/64 on my system, but my Fusion 5 USB works fine using Win7/64.

Given all you have been though, IMO life is too short to spend much more time trying to make it work. I recommend you get one of the new Silicon Dust HDHR3s. They have two tuners, and I have seen the price as low as $107 online. If you read up on this tuner, I think you will discover that very few people have issues with it.

-Dave

A few months ago, I got an HDHR2 which made the Fusion cards superfluous; I was not even using them, but the driver software was still installed and still causing crashes (amazingly enough).

It was only after uninstalling the Fusion cards and software that my system became stable.

Next I will try using the 5 Lite card with Vista 32 in another box.

...

Next I will try using the 5 Lite card with Vista 32 in another box.

Hi,

Cardboard and buried 6 feet deep? :D

A good place for both.

SHF

Hi,

Cardboard and buried 6 feet deep? :D

A good place for both.

SHF

I'm using Vista there cause I have a spare license (hate paying MS) and VMC is the only software I know of that plays .wtv files.

Outside, of course, of WMC7.

I see a report here (http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=61109#p294199) that the latest VLC version plays WTV files.

I see a report here (http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=61109#p294199) that the latest VLC version plays WTV files.

Thanks for that TP. If only I'd known before I went to all the trouble of installing Vista....

Of course with VMC, I get recording, Netflix, etc. But it was a (**********) pain to get it to play .wtv.

Now if only I could get WOL to work with Win 7.

Besides VMC, I think Media Player should work too.

BTW, I use VideoRedo to convert .wtv files to .tp files so I can play the content back on devices like MyHD and TViX. For the most part I use RT/CW_EPG to record unscrambled content, and 7MC to record scrambled content using an old ATI CableCard tuner.

-Dave

Looks like DVico tech support is officially defunct.

They've not responded to my request for over a week. :(

I've just inquired of my DViCo contact about Win7 compatibility of the F5 Lite. It seems that there is no 64-bit driver and there is a known stability problem with the 32-bit driver. Is that what you were asking them about?

I've just inquired of my DViCo contact about Win7 compatibility of the F5 Lite. It seems that there is no 64-bit driver and there is a known stability problem with the 32-bit driver. Is that what you were asking them about?

Yeah, pretty much. The MiniDump says ZuluTcap and ZuluVcap crash Win 7 32 bit.

I knew there's no 64 bit driver; that's why I'm using 32 bit.

If there's a known problem, why aren't they fixing it?

They're not fixing it because the F5 Lite is not a current product. The F5 Lite works with all the OS versions that were current in the day.

They're not fixing it because the F5 Lite is not a current product. The F5 Lite works with all the OS versions that were current in the day.

Then that's probably not the (only) problem I'm having cause I had instability with Win XP, too.

I'll see it it works with Vista and a different mobo.....

They're not fixing it because the F5 Lite is not a current product. The F5 Lite works with all the OS versions that were current in the day.

I doubt that. Less than a week after a fresh install of v3.90 on Vista SP1 32 on a different machine/mobo, I got the same crash I got with Win 7 on the first machine.

WinDbg reports the cause of the crash is ZuluTcap.

And DVico still hasn't responded to my request for tech support. :(

Unlike NVidia which just last Feb issued a driver update for my 7600GS on Vista, DVico tech support sucks! :thumbsdown:

I have the Fusion Gold 5 PCI and am trying to install in Win7 64 bit. I can't seem to find any drivers out there, and most of the above discussion has been on the RT or USB versions. Anyone else have any luck with the PCI to work?

I'm running Win7 64bit (Ultimate w/ SP1, if that matters) and used the 3.90 package for my Fusion 5 Gold PCI. I don't do any recording scheduling or anything fancy, so I can't give you any reports about long-term stability, but for just watching live via the Dvico app, it works well enough.

I have the Fusion Gold 5 PCI and am trying to install in Win7 64 bit. I can't seem to find any drivers out there, and most of the above discussion has been on the RT or USB versions. Anyone else have any luck with the PCI to work?

Hi,

I have the Fusion5 RT Gold and I am trying to install in:

Win 7 32 bit

using 3.90 which with I cannot find which driver to match, the default one does not work nor the Fusion5 Silver which looks like the Gold card.

The catch is that I had it installed before!

Which driver should I be trying to install?

TIA

SHF

Nani, you should be using the one second from the top in the list that you're showing. That one includes "5RT" and "GOLD" in its description.

Nani, you should be using the one second from the top in the list that you're showing. That one includes "5RT" and "GOLD" in its description.

Hi,

Thanks for your help, but...

I have two W7 32 Bit Partitions.

P1) After UN-installing Fusion and doing the triple driver uninstall and then a restart.

The driver you suggested does install and scans for channels. I believe it is at the start of the scan for analog channels that the ATI message appears. This message is what stopped me during the panic attempt to get my backup HTPC alive. (P2) (VLC Media Player 10 was crashing often, replaced with 09 on XP HTPC. ASUS graphics 4350 Driver updated.)

P2) After UN-installing Fusion and doing the triple driver uninstall and then a restart.

The driver you suggested fails to install!

I got the ATI message and tried UN-installing Fusion and drivers after updating the ASUS graphics 4350 driver with the latest on the ASUS web site. (Behind ATI versions I suspect.)

That set me off on a merry chase trying to get any driver to install. I got the same message with any driver attempt.

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So, I cannot even get back to the ATI failure on Partition 2.

And as I said, it was working before.

SHF

And as I said, it was working before.So put it back the way it was. :D

The question isn't what Fusion driver to use but how to fix your Win7 installations.

Did you try uninstalling all ATI drivers and letting Windows do the best that it can with a generic one? That's probably not the right solution (although it might be OK) but it would give you a stable (system restore) starting point for attempting improvements.

So put it back the way it was. :D

The question isn't what Fusion driver to use but how to fix your Win7 installations.

Hi,

> So put it back the way it was. :D

That perhaps would insure the abort on rewind Fusion bug could not be exercised. :eek:

(Still working to solve that, must be connected to the four drives that were part of two RAID 0 arrays back in ~ 2007 and broken apart incorrectly. Almost ready to purchase third new HDD.)

I have a new SATA 6 Gb/s drive set up with AHCI that forced the total new install. So I do not want to go back even though I have the old HDD. Copy and Windows Repair failed.

Yes, I can reset P1 and P2 to close to beginning state as I did two captures of it and start again.

But the wording of the ATI message is astounding, "is either not designed to run on Windows ...".

That's why I updated the Graphics card software.

As P2 is set up as a HTPC backup except for Fusion, I will think about what to try next.

The New HDD is driven by a BIOS extension and while booting messages appear that did not appear before.

:confused: :rolleyes: :(

Perhaps someone else has an idea, W7 is the pits for Fusion5. (See previous messages.)

SHF

That message about the ATI driver is coming from Windows, not FusionHDTV. I've seen other complaints about using current drivers with old ATI hardware. After all "ATI" doesn't exist anymore so the current driver designers have little skin in the game of making those clunkers still run.

Why don't you try my suggestion re. dumping the ATI custom driver to see if you get better results with the generic MSFT one?

That message about the ATI driver is coming from Windows, not FusionHDTV. I've seen other complaints about using current drivers with old ATI hardware. After all "ATI" doesn't exist anymore so the current driver designers have little skin in the game of making those clunkers still run.

Why don't you try my suggestion re. dumping the ATI custom driver to see if you get better results with the generic MSFT one?

Hi,

Will try that.

The entire file is zeros ($00) on P1. (Appears to be the same on P2.)

Magellan 7/08/11 17:08
Tree: H:\ ATICFX32.DLL
HEXADECIMAL [ ASCII ]
¦0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 [................]
¦0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 [................]
¦0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 [................]
¦0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 [................]
¦0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 [................]
¦0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 [................]
...
Viewed using the very first program after MSDOS 3.3 on my first PC.

I am going to try and find a good copy somewhere.

ASUS ATI Version 2009.0203.2157.39370

SHF

Irfanview has a hex viewer built in. :)

Irfanview has a hex viewer built in. :)

Hi,

Would be the same result, ASUS or ATI messed up.

As P1 and P2 can be reverted back to just after activation, I can do dangerous things with P1 like using ATI's latest version although there have been warnings to NOT try that.

I remember now that the native W7 driver was a no go, so your suggestion may well not work. I forget the exact message box, but perhaps something like "The graphics card needs to be replaced with one that supports DirectX 10".

As P2 is ready to step in as a HTPC I have lots of time. Not a priority right now.

I need to swap HDD's between the two HTPCs, I will plug the working W7 HDD in and look at the file and if good, copy it.

SHF

IIUC, the DX10 support is only needed if you're going to run Aero. For testing purposes this is clearly not required.

That message about the ATI driver is coming from Windows, not FusionHDTV. I've seen other complaints about using current drivers with old ATI hardware. After all "ATI" doesn't exist anymore so the current driver designers have little skin in the game of making those clunkers still run.

Why don't you try my suggestion re. dumping the ATI custom driver to see if you get better results with the generic MSFT one?

Hi,

You are right again. (ATI Driver is fixed on both P1 and P2)

P1, bare bones testing platform.

a) Removed ATI Catalyst

b) UN-installed 4350 Driver

c) Deleted aticfx32.dll

d) Restarted computer

e) W7 installed 4350 Driver WDDM 1.1

f) Restarted computer

g) Tried Fusion, it worked!

Thanks again

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P2, HTPC instantly ready backup.

On P2 did the same, got the same 4350 driver WDDM 1.1

UN-installed Fusion, did the triple driver uninstall, UN-installed the three Fusion devices and restarted.

Tried to install Fusion.

I got the same message as in message 2898.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=217114&d=1310091740

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=20667262#post20667262

Maybe deleting all remaining parts of Fusion from the Registry might help, but I do not think so. It is so easy to mess up, I correctly predicted someone else would mess it up and he did.

So, it is a rollback on P2 to just after activation and reinstall all the perfectly working HDHR, VLC media player, CW_EPG and so on.

And YES, I am selecting the Fusion driver you suggested.

I may never use the W7 computer as my HTPC, but should I do, without Catalyst there may be problems.

SHF

I have a problem with Fusion tuner and two QAM channels. They are both getting assigned virtual channel numbers D31. NBC should be 3.1 and CW should be 31.1, but they both show up as D31... In the scheduling module there are two D31's listed but they both record on 3.1 NBC. So I can't record 31.1 CW. I've tried removing the software (v3.9) and re-installing and re-scanning, no change.

Is there any other good free tuner software that does scheduling and full quality TP file recording?

hammerdwn,

I use GB-PVR to control my Fusion 3 cards. It is much more stable than the Fusion software that DVICO supplies.

It is also my understanding that other media players (such as WMC7) support BDA style tuners and will work with the Fusion cards but I have no experience with those.

Blato

Thanks!

I have two fusion cards-
Fusion II - older over the air tuner (currently no antenna connected)
Fusion 5 Express - QAM tuner (comcast cable connected)

Downloaded latest NPVR (new site for GBPVR). Installed and sees 2 devices, both ATSC tuners, but no QAM tuner??? And when I do channel scan for both devices it comes up with zero channels found... So seems like it sees the Fusion II card but not the Fusion 5 card???

I can't speak to the QAM side of these cards. I've never had cable TV and don't plan on getting it. When I set mine up for ATSC OTA, I found a guide over at the GB-PVR forums that detailed the steps needed to set it up. Maybe they have something similar for QAM or maybe it just doesn't work.

Good luck.

Thanks & got your PM reply.

Just for everyone's information- I got NPVR Live Tv working. The secret is to run the Fusion software, shut it down, then do NPVR device setup & QAM channel scan. Set video renderer to EVR, video decoder to MPC gabest (not Zulu or dvico), audio to AC3 Filter. Getting EPG and recording working is whole 'nother battle...

I'm really glad you got it working.

Take care,
Blato

Update- Got Schedules direct free trial working & done some recording. Works great!

Only issue now is if I shut down or reboot my PC, NPVR won't work right unless I run the Fusion software and close it. I guess running Fusion software initializes the Tuner or loads some driver? Is there any way around this? Command line to load the BDA drivers without running Fusion software???

I've never run into that problem with version 1.4.7. In fact, I put a shortcut to GB-PVR in my Startup folder so that I don't have to load it manually whenever I boot the computer.

I wonder if the problem could be related to your use of the Fusion 5 board as opposed to my Fusion 3?