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TPeterson
01-28-06, 01:27 AM
I just got this card bundled with the silver sensor and I'm having bad results. I can only get fox to come in smooth, even though I have UPN, WB, and CBS within 4 miles. All of these channels either stutter or just don't display. I get between 50-70% signal strength on them.

Advice? ZIP = 35213The poor performance is most likely because of the low signal quality. You need about 70% minimum for good OTA reception on FusionHDTV. Since you're so close to the xmitter, my guess is similar to Inundated's: bad multipath reflections. Try moving the antenna laterally and/or vertically and aiming in some other directions. It's quite possible that your best signal will result from the reflection off of a nearby building or other large landscape feature rather than straight from the tower.

NeezyDeezy
01-28-06, 01:37 AM
Thanks for the advice, after playing with the antenna forever, it looks like I'm going to have to get a better antenna...

Another question, how come my card can show me encrypted channels occasionally?

Earlier I watched and recorded Showtime, but now when I try to open the channel it's encrypted. It's fickle, sometimes it will load the audio to encrypted channels, open them for a second, etc. Seems odd.

73ChargerFan
01-28-06, 01:50 AM
Perhaps you were watching Showtime during one of their free weeks? They will occasionally broadcast free to cable subscribers, for a weekend or week, to lure new customers.

NeezyDeezy
01-28-06, 02:05 AM
No, it was earlier today.

Besides, that doesn't explain why I can sometimes connect to encrypted channels for a second or two. Earlier today, I watched several encrypted channels for several minutes. Now when I open them, it pauses and the channel number changes to some new number that is just a black screen. Whenever I refresh the channels after deleting the registry, I can at least get audio on all the encrypted channel until it changes to a new random number.

TPeterson
01-28-06, 02:08 AM
If you were seeing them, they were not encrypted at the time. Perhaps your cableco is making adjustments and didn't have the encryption enabled for a while. When actually used, the encryption is pretty strong and FusionHDTV cannot decode it.

Inundated
01-28-06, 01:41 PM
Thanks for the advice, after playing with the antenna forever, it looks like I'm going to have to get a better antenna...

I'm not sure how a "better antenna" would help. You're 4 miles from the towers...

You never answered my other questions. Are you surrounded by tall buildings? You could be shadowed by downtown skyscrapers or something...

Is there an airport nearby? Are there other possible sources blocking the signal from the towers?

I'm tending to think you're suffering from multipath, as TPeterson noted.

You might want to post your problem in this thread, where they talk about antenna installations all the time:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=381623

TPeterson
01-28-06, 02:35 PM
A better antenna would be one that's more directional than the single-pole rabbit ear--i.e., just about any "real" VHF antenna. ;)

KAXKID
01-28-06, 02:59 PM
A better antenna would be one that's more directional than the single-pole rabbit ear--i.e., just about any "real" VHF antenna. ;)
i think he has the silver sensor, not just the single pole rabbit ear. the silver sensor should be good enough to do the job.

if we assume the antenna is good and the cable is good, maybe because he is a new user, he has something mis-configured.

what version software etc.

TPeterson
01-28-06, 03:26 PM
Oops, you're right, Steve. I remembered "bundled antenna" and forgot that it was the silver sensor. The only way to improve on that would be with something like a multibay bow-tie, such as the CM 4228, but even that may not do the job so close to the tower with a lot of reflections.

73ChargerFan
01-28-06, 06:15 PM
Does the Fusion 5 have a problem going into S3 standby mode? I'm deciding between this and the VBOX Cat tuner. I'm using MCE & want to view unencrypted QAM

TPeterson
01-28-06, 06:19 PM
Does the Fusion 5 have a problem going into S3 standby mode?No.I'm using MCE & want to view unencrypted QAMThat's too bad because MCE doesn't "do" QAM.

73ChargerFan
01-28-06, 06:42 PM
Right, got that, thanks. I plan on using DVICO's software running alongside MCE to record QAM stations.

Is there a difference in HDTV tuner hardware or capability between the 5 Gold, 5 Light and 5 USB?

TPeterson
01-28-06, 06:56 PM
There are some differences but for most people the significant difference between Gold and Lite is the analog capture and Divx/MPEG-converter sw that come with the Gold.

73ChargerFan
01-28-06, 07:03 PM
Sounds like I'll get the lite then. Thanks!

haugej
01-28-06, 08:18 PM
Thanks for the advice, after playing with the antenna forever, it looks like I'm going to have to get a better antenna...

Another question, how come my card can show me encrypted channels occasionally?

Earlier I watched and recorded Showtime, but now when I try to open the channel it's encrypted. It's fickle, sometimes it will load the audio to encrypted channels, open them for a second, etc. Seems odd.

Just consider it a freebie. I have the Lite card and can pick up, on occasion, ppv movies. They will shift channels during a viewing and sometimes they don't come back at all. I hooked my analog cable up on a whim and I was able to pick up the digital movies channels, but it is not consistent. Can't plan any watching around it, I just luck up sometimes. I think it may have to do with someone that is on the same line as you getting those movies. Occasionally, the movies will FF,R, or pause like someone is controlling a Tivo.

NeezyDeezy
01-29-06, 04:08 PM
I'm not sure how a "better antenna" would help. You're 4 miles from the towers...

You never answered my other questions. Are you surrounded by tall buildings? You could be shadowed by downtown skyscrapers or something...

Is there an airport nearby? Are there other possible sources blocking the signal from the towers?

I'm tending to think you're suffering from multipath, as TPeterson noted.

You might want to post your problem in this thread, where they talk about antenna installations all the time:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=381623


Sorry, and thanks for being patient with me.

I am not surrounded by any tall buildings. Birmingham is divided by Red Mountain, which separates the downtown area from the suburbs and most residential areas. The towers are directly on top of the mountain, and I am living below them, about 4 miles away.

I am on the second floor of my house. The airport is about 8 miles away. I can't think of anything else blocking the signal. There is a hill immediately NE of me, but the towers are to the E.

A guy in that other thread recommends an attenuator?

TPeterson
01-29-06, 04:51 PM
An attenuator might help. (You can try a 4-way or 8-way splitter, which you may already have around, as an attenuator)

Inundated
01-29-06, 08:12 PM
You could be like one of our Cleveland regulars, who lives about a mile from the major local "antenna farm" in suburban Parma. We guessed that what he wasn't getting overloaded on his system, was shooting over his head (!!).

I'm with TP...maybe you need to cut DOWN the signal a little.

ARogan
01-30-06, 05:12 PM
Can anybody tell me how the schedule data for fusion hdtv software is persisted? When you schedule to record once a show in the future where does it save that data? Does it save it to the windows registry, text file, xml, proprietary binary file?

I have my own pvr software that I wrote and I'm looking for a way to hook into fusion hdtv to record shows based on a schedule that my software would build.

Better yet is there an API so I can write my own recorder?

tecnocris
02-02-06, 02:46 PM
Just consider it a freebie. I have the Lite card and can pick up, on occasion, ppv movies. They will shift channels during a viewing and sometimes they don't come back at all. I hooked my analog cable up on a whim and I was able to pick up the digital movies channels, but it is not consistent. Can't plan any watching around it, I just luck up sometimes. I think it may have to do with someone that is on the same line as you getting those movies. Occasionally, the movies will FF,R, or pause like someone is controlling a Tivo.

yep, I work for a major electronic store and on occasion I deliver tv's, sometimes when I hook up a hdtv sony to cable in my area, the tuners are so strong that when I finish the channel scan it will automatically go to ppv porn channels their neighbors subscribed to, its hilarious when that happens.

TPeterson
02-02-06, 02:52 PM
It has nothing to do with how "strong" the tuner is. The cablecos simply don't encrypt the PPV /VOD QAM channels.

foghorn2
02-02-06, 06:48 PM
yep, I work for a major electronic store and on occasion I deliver tv's, sometimes when I hook up a hdtv sony to cable in my area, the tuners are so strong that when I finish the channel scan it will automatically go to ppv porn channels their neighbors subscribed to, its hilarious when that happens.

What a great reason to have cable and a QAM tuner!

doromo
02-02-06, 11:35 PM
Does anyone know the setting to keep the channel listings in a rectangle and not a ribbon? If I re-scan, the channels are displayed nicely and are all visible in a fairly large box. After tuning to a few from the list, the list becomes vertical and I have to scroll up and down to see what is available. I have tried deleting unwatchable digital and analog stations, but it still stays with the ribbon. Obviously, I have put my most watched stations on the favorites list. But, sometimes I just want to browse around to see what is available.

Any ideas?

wktaylor
02-12-06, 11:27 AM
I'm having a problem with the fusion 5 and wmce 05, I have nvidia pure vid installed and when I switch to live ota tv, it crashes. Sometimes it will show a blank screen and a few seconds of audio, but never any video. When I had the fusion mpeg driver installed, it wouldn't do anything but crash. The fusion software works fine, but I'd rather watch it in wmce. I have the wmce drivers for my ati 9500pro, and everything else seems to workm just not tv.
Is there anything else I'm not doing right? I'm fairly new to wmce05 so I might have missed something. I did uninstall the fusion mpeg driver once i put on the nvidia pure driver.
Thoughts? It was originally giving me the error"Files needed to display video are not installed or not working correctly. Please restart Media Center and/or restart the computer"
Once i put in the pure video, that went away, just not the crashing.
Thanks!
William
Edit:
Or not, since no one uses mce here.

TPeterson
02-12-06, 12:18 PM
William, I suspect that you'll have better luck with MCE support on the MCE thread.

nrj0122
02-20-06, 05:08 PM
So if the softare that comes with the fusion 5 hdtv is not that great-although I recently read a post that the most recent version takes care of a lot of problems with the channel scanning-any recommendations on what 3rd party software i could use that is similar to MCE in which it will organize all your media file types into categories, be able to watch and record tv channels etc like MCE does?, but cant use MCE since it doesnt do QAM, as I have read. I was looing into XLobby program, which will organize all the media files for you with cover art/album art of all your movies and files (if wanted to which is cool), but it doesnt have any tv capabilities at all.

Does the actual software that comes with the fusion 5 even have a media organizer?

thanks for any info on how you have yours set up.

(Basically looking for something that has a main screen, and on it there is tabs or categories to choose from ,ex. Tab 1 DVD, Tab 2 Videos, Tab 3 TV, Tab 4 Music, etc. and after you pick that tab off main screen it goes into it and displays what is located with in that tab, etc like MCE does) or does current dvico software have this already?

KAXKID
02-20-06, 05:17 PM
...does current dvico software have this already?
no, the dvico fusion app is not a "media player" clone. it is for watching and recording tv using the fusion tuners.

KAXKID
02-20-06, 05:19 PM
Does anyone know the setting to keep the channel listings in a rectangle and not a ribbon? If I re-scan, the channels are displayed nicely and are all visible in a fairly large box. After tuning to a few from the list, the list becomes vertical and I have to scroll up and down to see what is available. I have tried deleting unwatchable digital and analog stations, but it still stays with the ribbon. Obviously, I have put my most watched stations on the favorites list. But, sometimes I just want to browse around to see what is available.

Any ideas?
have you tried the latest 3.3 version with the new channel list that can be sorted by analog or digital. the favorites list is also enhanced and easier to set-up the way you want it.

nrj0122
02-20-06, 10:17 PM
thanks for the response

So then what, if any, media organizer apps can fusion 5 users use that are compliant with 256 QAM HDTV? Or am I getting this wrong. I can use the software that comes with the fusion 5 to record and watch either OTA signal or 256 QAM via cable, but if I want to organize all my recodings and videos into a nice looking application, does that application have to also be 256 QAM capable or cant I just use it to organize all my media, why does it have to be able to do 256 QAM if I already recorded the show in HDTV fromat from the fusion 5 tuner onto my HD, or to just watch a dvd movie burned onto hard drive.

Like for example, the new sagetv version 4 states is HDTV capable, but then if you read further it states that is for OTA HDTV, says nothing about 256 QAM HDTV signal. So from that, I take it it won't work from me since I will be using unencrypted 256 QAM signal from cable co. (I put a question into sagetv support about this to find out if it supports only OTA HDTV just today-so no word on answer yet.)

sengsational
02-21-06, 09:37 PM
So then what, if any, media organizer apps can fusion 5 users use that are compliant with 256 QAM HDTV?Sorry I can't answer your question, but am interested in what you find out.

I was also frustrated by not having a "media organizer". I don't need/want all of that stuff, I just want to know more than what a file name tells me (usually the show title, station it came from, and time it started). That doesn't cut it! I wrote my own tool that gets all of the episode data before the program even gets recorded, then that data persists as long as the file is around. Now when it's time to watch something, you can read about it, not just say, Oh, I have 5 "Mystery" shows from 2 different PBS stations, and you end-up having to scavange around trying to find part 2 of 3. Bottom line is I don't know how people can live with only a file name!

On to your question now. I presume that whatever organizer you use would need to pull tv schedule information. Thus, you would need to define a "lineup" of all of the channels that you get on QAM. You could try zap2it, for instance. If your organizer could use zap2it as it's feed, then it wouldn't matter if it was QAM; it's just a file recorded from a certain station at a certain time.

But follow-up here, whatever you find out!

--Dale--

MrHifi
02-23-06, 05:11 PM
My Sony KDL32XBR950 will not get QAM256. What Sony TV's have the 256 tuners?

TPeterson
02-23-06, 05:43 PM
You might actually get an answer to this question if you'd ask it in a Sony thread.... ;)

Aaron Oz
02-23-06, 09:05 PM
Anyone using their Fusion with an additional analog capture card in their system?

daphatty
02-24-06, 05:52 AM
Anyone using their Fusion with an additional analog capture card in their system?

I am. I have a Hauppauge WinTV PVR-500 and a PVR-USB2 installed in my HTPC.

orangecream
02-24-06, 09:24 AM
Anyone using their Fusion with an additional analog capture card in their system?


I am as well, or at least I'm trying to have it set up. I have the Hauppauge WinTV 150 as the analog tuner. MCE requires it, so its there. But it also comes with the added benefit of being able to hook up my VCR or Camcorder to the analog card to quickly digitize my home movies. I plan to also connect DirectTV to the WinTV, although still trying to figure that out, since MCE won't deal with 2 tuners with different sources.

Anyway, I have a question for all Fusion 5 owners. I made a clean install of MCE2005, RU2, latest drivers, and Fusion 3.3.01 installation. Everything seems to work fine. But 50% of the time, when I go to shutdown, my system hangs at "Windows is shutting down" screen. It'll just stay there forever until I pull the power plug. Anyone else run into this?

HTPC specs:
P4 3.0 Ghz Prescott
Asus P4P800 SE
XFX Nvidia 6600GT AGP
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy
Hauppauge WinTV 150
Dvico FusionHDTV 5 Gold

grizzledbiker
02-24-06, 05:39 PM
Just got the fusion 5. So what's J 310? What happens if I move that jumper?

KAXKID
02-24-06, 07:30 PM
Just got the fusion 5. So what's J 310? What happens if I move that jumper?
the jumper is supposed to be for the eprom. we did some "research" on this in an earlier thread a long time ago when the "3" cards were new. i believe there is faq on the dvico site about the jumper and what the default setting is.
i don't have a "5" but i do have two "3" cards and one works with the jumper set to "p" while the other works with the jumper set to "w". i would not advise changing the setting without doing your own research.

egandt
02-24-06, 07:38 PM
Very upset as the x64 drivers, which I keep reading all about do not work on the "FusionHDTV5 Lite", yet why not I get the most stupid message:
Question
In the case of this product, x64 driver is in the process of developing


What does this mean, as it makes no sense at all, and why is it not supported as it useds the same chipset?

Please note I bought this to replace the 3Gold I had, because it was unstable!

ERIC

TPeterson
02-24-06, 08:03 PM
Eric--

Please don't cross post the same question. That's considered rude in these parts.

KKTVRO
02-25-06, 11:04 PM
I was thinking of getting this to play with OTA as well as digital cable.
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/eng/Products/HDTV5usb.aspx

I hear the name fustion come up and was wondering if this is
the device you guys are talking about or is it a internal card.

I am currently playing with a kWORLD ASTC-110 for OTA. The software
is only TRIAL (to my disappointment so I think the card is going back
and would like to get something I can play with on digital cable for
the channels not encrypted.

Looking forward to reading your comments.

thanks

Ken

KAXKID
02-25-06, 11:57 PM
I was thinking of getting this to play with OTA as well as digital cable.
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/eng/Products/HDTV5usb.aspx

I hear the name fustion come up and was wondering if this is
the device you guys are talking about or is it a internal card.

I am currently playing with a kWORLD ASTC-110 for OTA. The software
is only TRIAL (to my disappointment so I think the card is going back
and would like to get something I can play with on digital cable for
the channels not encrypted.

Looking forward to reading your comments.

thanks

Ken
dvico makes the fusion hdtv tuner devices. some are internal(pci) cards and some are usb. the usb version has been called the "f5usb" here. the tuner referred to in this thread is probably the internal card(pci version).

there are a number of threads you may find helpful.

this one is about the f5usb:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6270061&&#post6270061

this one is about the latest version of the fusion software that controls any of the fusion devices:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7072693&&#post7072693

using the fusion app, the fusion devices will decode un-encrypted (qam) cable tv (analog, sdtv, hdtv) and also ota signals (analog, sdtv, hdtv).

73ChargerFan
02-26-06, 12:59 PM
Ymmv with the fusion software, but there aren't many alternatives.

TPeterson
02-26-06, 01:09 PM
"...there aren't many alternatives [for HTPC QAM cable]."

Yeah, mainly one: MyHD, which is more stable and more costly, but you'll want to give it a look before jumping.

KKTVRO
03-01-06, 06:19 AM
I picked this up yesterday. My first observation is the sensitivity is
not as good as the kWORLD ASTC-110. I don't get as many channels.
The kWORLD was my previous tuner which I returned for this one.

I am not using a real UHF antenna but instead a Ham Radio vertical for
VHF/UHF. Unless the fusion hdtv5 usb Gold is fussy about seeing 75 ohms
I would have to say the kWorld sensitivity is better.

The fusion did get about 8 digital cable channels.


KKTVRO

I was thinking of getting this to play with OTA as well as digital cable.
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/eng/Products/HDTV5usb.aspx

I hear the name fustion come up and was wondering if this is
the device you guys are talking about or is it a internal card.

I am currently playing with a kWORLD ASTC-110 for OTA. The software
is only TRIAL (to my disappointment so I think the card is going back
and would like to get something I can play with on digital cable for
the channels not encrypted.

Looking forward to reading your comments.

thanks

Ken

acegolfer
03-01-06, 01:37 PM
I just installed Fusion5 Lite on my old desktop and to my surprise it worked!

Specs

AMD athlon 1800 (ECS K7S5A board)
512MB DDR ram
Nvidia Geforce4 MX440 DVI out to 60" SONY LCDRP at 1280 by 720
SB Live 5.1 SP/DIF digital output to 500 watt HT receiver
Win XP SP2
Fusion5 Lite (3.30.01 driver)
Silver Sensor in attic (100' wiring to the family room, preamp used)
PVR: GB PVR (free) using Nvidia Purevideo Decoder (hardware acceleration enabled), Overlay

Using GBPVR, I can watch all HD channels in this region (also picked up one station 50 miles away) . I can record, timeshift, schedule without any problem. CPU runs at normally 40% while watching live TV (occasionally increase to 100% if frequent channel surfing) and runs at 5% while recording.

If I use FusionHDTV App, channel shifting is faster (video almost instantaneous but sound lagging 2-3 seconds) but low WAF.

If you wonder whether HDTV is right for your slow PC, I hope this will help.

CityK
03-01-06, 04:18 PM
It appears Dvico has made some board level changes to the F5 PCI cards shown on their Korean page, as well as making a slight change to the cards' moniker (i.e. "RT"): Example (http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/KOR/Products/Fusion5RTGOLD.aspx). I guess we'll find out shortly enough whether or not those changes are also carried over to the products that are sold in N.A.

d9000
03-01-06, 05:03 PM
I am experiencing stuttering with the Fusion 5 Lite pci card using an OTA antenna, but only on the 1080i stations. I have a strong signal (over 100% in most cases). The local Fox and ABC stations (720p) seem to display smoothly, but any other stations stutter badly, whether broadcasting HDTV or standard DTV signals (which might be uprezzed anyways).

I have played around with irq settings, and have it isolated on IRQ4 now. That seems to make no difference (it was previously by itself on IRQ17). I have also turned off serial, parallel, game, etc.

This stuttering occurs both within MCE (where I would like it to work most) and the Dvico app. I can get it to mostly go away in the Dvico app by turning off dxva accelleration, but I don't know if any similar option is available with the Dvico MCE drivers. Here are my system specs:

- Sempron 64 3000+
- 1GB PC3200 RAM
- Geforce 6200 AGP
- ASUS K8U-X Motherboard

Any help would be appreciated.

Inositle
03-01-06, 11:39 PM
Hi, I've spent the good part of my night trying to decide which HD tuner card to purchase. I started by looking at the ATI HDTV Wonder but then saw the SnapStream bundles with the FusionHD5 Lite/Gold (which I might possibly be able to pull QAM off of). My questions are:

1) I don't really care about not having a remote on the Lite version, are there any other important differences between it and the Gold other than the analog encoder?

2) Will analog PVR still work with the lower grade Lite version on BeyondTV?

3) What's the difference between unencrypted QAM and unencrypted basic cable?

TPeterson
03-02-06, 12:06 AM
You do realize that BTV doesn't do QAM, right?

Inositle
03-02-06, 12:19 AM
You do realize that BTV doesn't do QAM, right?

Yes, but if I can pull HD channels off of cable (using QAM is the only way, as far as I understand) then that would be worth it to use another program for that. I doubt I'll be able to pull any OTA HD channels from where I am and I can't upgrade my cable plan (I'm living in a dorm), so I want to make sure analog on the FusionHD5 Lite is good quality in case I can't get HD. (Although I'll enjoy OTA or possibly QAM HD whenever I'm at home with the Fusion)

Thanks

TPeterson
03-02-06, 02:28 AM
1) I don't really care about not having a remote on the Lite version, are there any other important differences between it and the Gold other than the analog encoder?

2) Will analog PVR still work with the lower grade Lite version on BeyondTV?

3) What's the difference between unencrypted QAM and unencrypted basic cable?1) Define "important". The lite version also cannot use DViCO's Converter app, which may be important.

2) I think yes.

3) None. QAM is just the modulation type used on U.S. digital cable.

VideoJames
03-02-06, 03:06 AM
...so I want to make sure analog on the FusionHD5 Lite is good quality in case I can't get HD. (Although I'll enjoy OTA or possibly QAM HD whenever I'm at home with the Fusion)...

Analog quality will not be good, especially if you view it on a large screen TV. As long as your dorm room cable feed carries unencrypted digital channels from your cable company, the Fusion card will tune them and you wont have to deal with it's analog tuner anyway.

KKTVRO
03-02-06, 09:51 AM
I added a preamp (inside the house not at antenna) and it made a big
difference. Now I can get all the channels the kWORLD got. I also received
an email from DVIco telling me to try another USB port. This sounded strange
to me but further reading and I found some stating their is a problem
with some USB ports not supplying enough current to power the USB fusionHDTV5. I am guessing low voltage or current might cause some
sensitivity issues with the circuitry not working right.

I also can't figure out how to get the remote to work with SnapStream Beyond TV.

KKTVRO

I picked this up yesterday. My first observation is the sensitivity is
not as good as the kWORLD ASTC-110. I don't get as many channels.
The kWORLD was my previous tuner which I returned for this one.

I am not using a real UHF antenna but instead a Ham Radio vertical for
VHF/UHF. Unless the fusion hdtv5 usb Gold is fussy about seeing 75 ohms
I would have to say the kWorld sensitivity is better.

The fusion did get about 8 digital cable channels.


KKTVRO

hlkc
03-02-06, 02:49 PM
I've Fusion 5 in my HTPC but there is nothing in my EPG. Can someone tell me how to turn on the EPG that will receive the programming? I register in the Titan site but it seems to me the EPG doesn't know where to get the programming guide... Please help. Thanks!

TPeterson
03-02-06, 02:57 PM
I've Fusion 5 in my HTPC but there is nothing in my EPG. Can someone tell me how to turn on the EPG that will receive the programming? I register in the Titan site but it seems to me the EPG doesn't know where to get the programming guide... Please help. Thanks!Are you receiving cable or OTA programming? If cable, you probably don't see any EPG info because your cableco isn't sending it along with their retransmission of the OTA stations.

The EPG table is populated with PSIP data that come along with the transmitted signal, not from TitanTV. You view TTV's info in your web browser.

hlkc
03-02-06, 04:44 PM
Are you receiving cable or OTA programming? If cable, you probably don't see any EPG info because your cableco isn't sending it along with their retransmission of the OTA stations.

The EPG table is populated with PSIP data that come along with the transmitted signal, not from TitanTV. You view TTV's info in your web browser.

It's OTA not cable. I feel I am missing something here. How do the my HTPC's EPG knows where I live such as zip code or ask me identlfy myself...

TPeterson
03-02-06, 05:07 PM
Huh? Presumably you live in the same zip code as your antenna.... Maybe you need to try that question again? Or re-read my post??

hlkc
03-02-06, 05:13 PM
Huh? Presumably you live in the same zip code as your antenna.... Maybe you need to try that question again? Or re-read my post??

In order for the any EPG works, I assume same as HomeseerTV, MCE... they all need to pull the data somewhere like Zap2it. Before the device to do that, in my case the Fusion 5, it never asks me my zip code... I did input and created the guide in their site but not in my Fusion 5 at all. Is there aplace thet I need to input this info in order for the Fusion 5 to get the EPG from somewhere?

xsnrg
03-02-06, 05:25 PM
I played with it last night a bit on my second machine, since I have the USB. When I did the channel scan, it found all the stations, but had no guide data. After going to each station, the DViCO software added the information it got from the stream into the guide. After going through all the stations, I had all the guide information. Be sure to display it on each one. At least for me, it pulled it off the air.

TPeterson
03-02-06, 05:30 PM
At least for me, it pulled it off the air.Don't feel too special--it does that for everybody (as I said two posts ago). :D

hlkc
03-02-06, 05:31 PM
I played with it last night a bit on my second machine, since I have the USB. When I did the channel scan, it found all the stations, but had no guide data. After going to each station, the DViCO software added the information it got from the stream into the guide. After going through all the stations, I had all the guide information. Be sure to display it on each one. At least for me, it pulled it off the air.

xsnrg,

Yes, it is a new HTPC for me... Yes, I scan all the stations but when you mean "going to each station" do you mean I have to see the TV then for few seconds and scroll to next one? I probably did not watch every channels there and that maybe why it did not oull in the EPG there. Will try - thanks a lot!

poohbair
03-02-06, 06:34 PM
Tell me about this pre-amp you added. price, model, how installed, etc. How far is your antenna from your fusion?

KKTVRO
03-03-06, 06:37 AM
Latest, I read somewhere about the fusionHDTV5 USB GOLD drawing close
to the max current from the USB port and I should try another port.
I switched from the rear port to a front port and sure enough the signal
was stronger based in the fusion software signal indicator. I also emailed
DVIco on my low sensitivity issue. In there reply they told me to try another
USB port but didn't say why. I can only explain the results as lower current/voltage
might not have had the circuitry working 100%.

The preamp I added prior to the USB port change is made by Radio Shack. It really
is a distrubution amplifier with variable gain model 15-1113. (VHF/UHF)
After the USB change I put the amplifier back in line and also notice more
signal. The channels I receive now are solid and no less than 70% signal with
several at 100%. The amp is located only about 10 feet from the computer.
Amps are normally postioned at the antenna to help not only pre amp the RF
signal but make up for the loss of coax. Where I have my amp located
is not working as well as if it where located at the top of my tower where
the antenna is.

The antenna I use is not a UHF TV antenna. It's a Ham Radio Antenna (Vertical)
designed for 50MHz,144MHz, and 440MHz. I live in a high altitude area which
helps. We still have snow on the ground here so it will be a month or two
before I can install a new 8 bay antenna I just picked up

KKTVRO

Tell me about this pre-amp you added. price, model, how installed, etc. How far is your antenna from your fusion?

TPeterson
03-03-06, 10:27 AM
"High altitude area"...in Rhode Island? :confused:

sengsational
03-03-06, 08:17 PM
Huh? Presumably you live in the same zip code as your antenna.... ?Ha! Well, _I_ thought it was funny! But it's a difficult concept.... text data through the same antenna I used for Ozzie and Harriet? Yes, true. We've come so far, while not going so far.

jim tressler
03-04-06, 08:14 AM
does anyone elses fusion 5 gold (pci version) get really warm - almost hot to the touch in the case?

poohbair
03-05-06, 05:35 AM
I didn't see your model pre-amp listed in the current RS online catalog. But, I do have this model RS preamp (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?pg=5&parentPage=family&cp=2032057.2032187.2032189.2032207&productId=2103094&tab=summary) I bought a year ago but haven't gotten around to installing it. I no doubt will now that warmer weather is finally approaching. My existing 120" boom RS antenna "weather vaned" back in November due to high winds and I haven't been able to get out on the roof. I'd like to replace that with their 160" model RS 160" antenna (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103087&cp=&kw=160&parentPage=search) . I think that coupled wtih the pre-amp ought to do the trick to pull in our stubborn channel 3-1 HD CBS station.

Bob_S
03-05-06, 05:18 PM
I can not get the program to pause. The pause button is not lit. In the configuration menue under timeshift the "record to file" under timeshit is also grayed out (not sure if this is related). I am using Windows 2000 but this card is clamed to work.

Thanks for any help :confused:

KAXKID
03-05-06, 11:18 PM
I can not get the program to pause. The pause button is not lit. In the configuration menue under timeshift the "record to file" under timeshit is also grayed out (not sure if this is related). I am using Windows 2000 but this card is clamed to work.

Thanks for any help :confused:
what version of the fusion app are you using?

Bob_S
03-06-06, 08:27 AM
3.30.01

Dvico has just told be that time shift only works with HDTV input. I am try to use it on S-Video. They make it sound like its a problem with there application software so I am hoping that some other software like SageTV will work with the card.

If Anyone is using S-Video pause with this card, please advise what software you are using. Thanks

KAXKID
03-06-06, 08:38 AM
3.30.01

Dvico has just told be that time shift only works with HDTV input. I am try to use it on S-Video. They make it sound like its a problem with there application software so I am hoping that some other software like SageTV will work with the card.

If Anyone is using S-Video pause with this card, please advise what software you are using. Thanks
you might have want to read and post to the fusion software thread as it appears better suited to your quest than the hardware thread.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7072693&&#post7072693

TPeterson
03-06-06, 10:11 AM
3.30.01

Dvico has just told be that time shift only works with HDTV input. I am try to use it on S-Video. They make it sound like its a problem with there application software so I am hoping that some other software like SageTV will work with the card.

If Anyone is using S-Video pause with this card, please advise what software you are using. ThanksBob--

All of the HDTV tuner cards' sw depend upon the input's being a Transport Stream (i.e., DTV, already compressed into MPEG-2 form) to perform their Timeshifting tricks. If you want those from NTSC (analog) TV, you'll need to get an NTSC tuner (with hw MPEG convertor).

ianicbrisson
03-06-06, 11:59 AM
I lost my two OTA HDTV channeles last week. I upgraded all my drivers to the latest ones a few days before and I believe that I verified that all worked well but am not 100% sure. This is the only change that I made on my machine.

Tha channel recpetion for the two channels was above 90%. I have yet to verify channel signal but I got a confirnation they are still broadcasting on another forum.

Has anybody else experienced a similar problem after upgrading their drivers.

Thanks

Ianic

KKTVRO
03-06-06, 03:47 PM
You might try installing the preamp instead of at the antenna but near the
computer. It won't make up for the cable loss but if the preamp is any
good it might let you get a few channels you did not before.

KKTVRO

I didn't see your model pre-amp listed in the current RS online catalog. But, I do have this model RS preamp (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?pg=5&parentPage=family&cp=2032057.2032187.2032189.2032207&productId=2103094&tab=summary) I bought a year ago but haven't gotten around to installing it. I no doubt will now that warmer weather is finally approaching. My existing 120" boom RS antenna "weather vaned" back in November due to high winds and I haven't been able to get out on the roof. I'd like to replace that with their 160" model RS 160" antenna (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103087&cp=&kw=160&parentPage=search) . I think that coupled wtih the pre-amp ought to do the trick to pull in our stubborn channel 3-1 HD CBS station.

Beer:30
03-07-06, 10:26 AM
I installed my Fusion5HDTV lite last night and only scanned 2 analog channels and they were in black and white. :(
Did I do something wrong? I currently subscribe to adelphia digital cable. I took the cable off my cable box and plugged it into the caputre card.
Before I installed the card I downloaded and ran the latest drivers from the divco site.
A regular analog TV will tune ~80 analog channels if plugged into the same cable, but the fusion5hdtv only finds 2?
Any ideas?

TPeterson
03-07-06, 10:29 AM
You need to apply the HRC frequency overrides to your TS0-1 Registry key. Get the .reg file from the DVICO ftp site.

darthwiler
03-07-06, 12:53 PM
I'm a newbie here. I just got a Fushion 5 Gold and installed it last night. I want to use it as part of a HTPC connected to Time Warner. I was able to get a few digital channels via QAM, but I'm having problems with program guides...TitanTV, Meedio. Can anyone help me get started?

Beer:30
03-07-06, 01:36 PM
You need to apply the HRC frequency overrides to your TS0-1 Registry key. Get the .reg file from the DVICO ftp site.

Wow thanks! Worked like a charm!

dd2
03-07-06, 07:23 PM
I'm a newbie here. I just got a Fushion 5 Gold and installed it last night. I want to use it as part of a HTPC connected to Time Warner. I was able to get a few digital channels via QAM, but I'm having problems with program guides...TitanTV, Meedio. Can anyone help me get started?

I don't believe TitanTV works correctly with QAM on Fusion. I cannot reliably use Titan to schedule recordings on my QAM connection. I have to manually schedule all recordings using the EPG function of Fusion.

For guide purposes, I customized TitanTV with the appropriate Fusion channel numbers so at least I have correct information there.

poohbair
03-08-06, 07:12 AM
installed preamp - no change what so ever with the signal strength for that stubborn low freq channel 3-1 CBS station. Highest I can get it is around 80% with frequent lock ups. did I waste my money?

TPeterson
03-08-06, 10:45 AM
It seems that that Chicago CBS DTV station is a problem for FusionHDTV. I don't know if it's the fact that it's a low-band VHF station (which is a rarity) or what.

poohbair
03-09-06, 07:13 PM
I also wonder if I wasted money buying the fusion 5. I have yet to notice any improved reception over fusion 3. TPeterson - the only CBS channel available in my area is on a low VHF channel 3-1. WWMT (http://www.wwmt.com/) The local HD enthusiasts have about given up on them.

Inositle
03-09-06, 09:51 PM
I don't know if this is an issue with my new DViCO FusionHDTV 5 USB or my video card (nvidia 7800gt pci-ex), but I've been getting blue screen instant crashes ever since I started using the tuner. So far it seems to only happen when I'm changing settings/channels and only in full screen mode. It may be with my video card b/c I had this issue when outputing video to my tv w/ the 7800 but haven't had the problem since.

Any ideas?

TPeterson
03-09-06, 10:20 PM
Inositle--

Huh? I can't make any sense of your post. What are you seeing (BSOD or not??) and what is your question?

Inositle
03-09-06, 10:50 PM
Inositle--

Huh? I can't make any sense of your post. What are you seeing (BSOD or not??) and what is your question?

Yeah, it's BSODing randomly when I'm watching HDTV with the DViCO software. I also had this problem happen in the past, but it's always been related to playing videos.

TPeterson
03-09-06, 11:34 PM
Yeah, it's BSODing randomly when I'm watching HDTV with the DViCO software. I also had this problem happen in the past, but it's always been related to playing videos.OK, I guess I now understand you. If you see BSOD with Fusion and other sw during MPEG video output, I'd say that you need a different video driver.

arcticool
03-10-06, 01:50 AM
I hate it when ppl do this but sorry I have to- I've read this entire thread and there are contradictions I think should be settled re: the Gold vs. Lite cards:
Earlier in the thread it was stated that Lite could record analog tv just fine.
Later on it was stated that analog tuning would be poor quality with the Lite.
Earlier on it was stated that the difference was the lite did not have the same Decoder, then later it was stated the difference was the analog 'Encoder'. Then someone else pointed to what sounded like the analog tuner.
Sheesh I'm getting dizzy here.
Can someone please clearify these differences.
Also, one thing ppl seem to agree on is the 'Converter' is missing on the Lite version. Can someone please clarify what the Converter does specifically.

I'm still deciding which to get, I'm getting an OTA antenna and will be watching primarily HD channels, but maybe analog occasionally if it looks 'ok'. I have an ATI Remote Wonder so may lean toward the Lite since I'm a student and on a tight budget.
Thanks!

AC

TPeterson
03-10-06, 02:14 AM
AC--

The tuners are the same "5th generation" LG tuner. The Lite version lacks:

1. Connector for NTSC (composite or S-vid) inputs (actually, it's there but blanked over).
2. The higher-bit A-to-D convertor for NTSC encoding (for recording).
3. The Fusion Convertor sw (for converting TS to lower-res stuff [MPEG, DVIX, etc.] for DVD, play on portable devices, etc.)
4. A ULead sw package of some sort that I forget the name of at the moment.

If the $50 price difference matters to you and you're not interested in capturing NTSC baseband video, I think you'll be just as happy with the Lite as with the Gold. IMO, NTSC TV looks terrible on a big screen but OK on a small screen, regardless of the source or the games played to mask noise, etc., so the A-to-D difference is a "don't care" for me.

KAXKID
03-10-06, 07:40 AM
AC--

The tuners are the same "5th generation" LG tuner. The Lite version lacks:

...
3. The Fusion Convertor sw (for converting TS to lower-res stuff [MPEG, DVIX, etc.] for DVD, play on portable devices, etc.)
...
i've seen this before and was wondering what it means. the converter program is a seperate app that is part of fusion package in all "beta" versions. does it not install if the "lite" tuner is used or does it not work with the "lite" tuner? does anyone have first hand knowledge of this?

Munkeung
03-10-06, 09:49 AM
I've both the gold and lite version. The converter is installed with the lite version, but apparently the program checks the hardware installation (or something) and will not execute. I'm sure there is a workaround somewhere. I tried the converter once and I gave up, it runs at about 0.25x and I don't have patience for it.

hlkc
03-10-06, 12:33 PM
I ran in some wired things and hope someone here can give me some ideas.

Yesterday morning, I try to show my friend some HD TV show that I recorded before. It was so bad since it displays 480p not 720P. I sure I test watched the same clip before and it was 720P and it was pretty good. So I try to shut down the application and start again and play around and it remains the same, still display as 420P. Last night I try to play around again and shut down and start few times and at the end I don't even know what I did but it starts to display 720P again. What did I do wrong the 1st time? Is there a place to choose I can make sure it displays the best signal available. Many thanks in advance.

arcticool
03-10-06, 03:50 PM
AC--

The tuners are the same "5th generation" LG tuner. The Lite version lacks:

1. Connector for NTSC (composite or S-vid) inputs (actually, it's there but blanked over).
2. The higher-bit A-to-D convertor for NTSC encoding (for recording).
3. The Fusion Convertor sw (for converting TS to lower-res stuff [MPEG, DVIX, etc.] for DVD, play on portable devices, etc.)
4. A ULead sw package of some sort that I forget the name of at the moment.

If the $50 price difference matters to you and you're not interested in capturing NTSC baseband video, I think you'll be just as happy with the Lite as with the Gold. IMO, NTSC TV looks terrible on a big screen but OK on a small screen, regardless of the source or the games played to mask noise, etc., so the A-to-D difference is a "don't care" for me.

Cool, thanks for the feedback. I just ordered up the 'Lite' version which came with a free 'silver scanner' or something antenna and a coax cable from snapstream- 99 bucks for the lot. My decision was based upon:
1. Composite and Svid connections- don't need em.
2. Agreed, analog tv is lame at best on my 57 inch and digital is my primary concern.
3. Since the 'converter' is software I don't care. If it was hardware it would be a nice little option. Personally I use AutoGK (a slick automated version of Gordian Knot) which encodes ts or dvd to xvid or divx. Its easy, configurable for audio and video size, works beautifully and its FREE :)
4. I'm happy with my Nero suite so I won't need the Ulead stuff...

Looking forward to getting this thing hooked up.
Thanks again,

AC

Bob_S
03-11-06, 08:39 PM
Does anyone have these two products working togeather without having errors while using composite or S-Video (HDTV works). I have tryed two PCs, Win2k and XP lots of drivers, reinstalls and SageTV tech support. I am now wondering if it can work?

Thanks

Rfutscher
03-11-06, 09:28 PM
Does anyone have these two products working togeather without having errors while using composite or S-Video (HDTV works). I have tryed two PCs, Win2k and XP lots of drivers, reinstalls and SageTV tech support. I am now wondering if it can work?

Thanks

I have the Fusion USB working with Sage. To get it working I installed a USB card with a power connector. I connected a disk drive power cable to it to make sure there was sufficiant power available for the power hungry Fusion USB.

I then discovered that every time I install Sage or update Sage I have to uninstall the Fusion software first. After Sage is installed I then reinstall the Fusion app and drivers. Otherwise I get a Blue Screen of Death almost every time I do a channel scan with the signal checker, the Fusion app or Sage.

I wish Sage would fix their installation so that it wouldn't crap on the Fusion install.

ilee01
03-15-06, 10:07 AM
You need to apply the HRC frequency overrides to your TS0-1 Registry key. Get the .reg file from the DVICO ftp site.

I've looked around their sites, can' find it, can you provide a link?
Thanks.

Brad M.
03-15-06, 10:15 AM
I've looked around their sites, can' find it, can you provide a link?
Thanks.
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Support/FAQBeforeBuy.aspx?act=RD&id=205&pg=1

KKTVRO
03-15-06, 02:53 PM
Hello,

Is there away to increase the frequency coverage of the USB fusion?
I went to this site and they talk a little about frequency range for
different Countries.

thanks

http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Support/FAQBeforeBuy.aspx?act=RD&id=205&pg=1

TPeterson
03-15-06, 03:33 PM
Check out the Fusion 3.3 sw thread for a method to tune beyond ch 125.

KKTVRO
03-15-06, 09:03 PM
Spent about an hour searching and reading but could not find anything

I did find some talk on TsBrowser2. Would you know what this is
used for?

If you happen to know which post talks about tunning beyond ch 125, please post

Would anyone know if someone has written a manual. I find the manual
that came with my USB fusion lacking examples.


thanks,
KKTVRO


Check out the Fusion 3.3 sw thread for a method to tune beyond ch 125.

TPeterson
03-15-06, 09:52 PM
Search the 3.3 thread for "TS0-1".

KKTVRO
03-16-06, 10:27 AM
The search engine here is not very specific. It just offers the same
22 pages as before meaning I am back to square 1 searching for
the post for my answer. Try a search fo TSO-1 and you will see
what I mean.

KKTVRO

Search the 3.3 thread for "TS0-1".

TPeterson
03-16-06, 10:31 AM
I did (before) and the first 2-3 hits had the discussion that was relevant to your question. Perhaps you didn't search the thread?

BTW, the search function is more sensitive to the difference between zero and oh than you are. ;)

KKTVRO
03-16-06, 10:45 AM
TSO-1 returns hunderds of hits. (for me)

Can you copy the link that returns you the 2-3 hits for me.

thanks
KKTVRO

I did (before) and the first 2-3 hits had the discussion that was relevant to your question. Perhaps you didn't search the thread?

BTW, the search function is more sensitive to the difference between zero and oh than you are. ;)

TPeterson
03-16-06, 12:13 PM
Luck has nothing to do with it. Careful reading is everything.

dd2
03-16-06, 02:45 PM
KKTVRO - He's saying you need to type a zero, not an O (the letter O) in TS0-1

KAXKID
03-16-06, 09:54 PM
TSO-1 returns hunderds of hits. (for me)

Can you copy the link that returns you the 2-3 hits for me.

thanks
KKTVRO
if you haven't found the posts yet, start at my post where i stated "btw that registry key might be where a change could be made to tune the higher rf frequencies above rf125 from what i have read so far. some one with a lot more knowledge would need to comment on that though before i'd make any changes."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7112324&&#post7112324

read down the thread to see that terry followed with a working fix.

arcticool
03-17-06, 09:04 PM
Well I just got my Fusion 5 and my 'silver sensor' only one problem- its not actually a silver sensor, its some Terk antenna by Audiovox that *looks* just like a silver sensor but isn't. Do you folks think I should send it back and get the real deal as advertised or will it really make a difference?
Thanks,

AC

vichkhan
03-23-06, 01:14 AM
I am as well, or at least I'm trying to have it set up. I have the Hauppauge WinTV 150 as the analog tuner. MCE requires it, so its there. But it also comes with the added benefit of being able to hook up my VCR or Camcorder to the analog card to quickly digitize my home movies. I plan to also connect DirectTV to the WinTV, although still trying to figure that out, since MCE won't deal with 2 tuners with different sources.

Anyway, I have a question for all Fusion 5 owners. I made a clean install of MCE2005, RU2, latest drivers, and Fusion 3.3.01 installation. Everything seems to work fine. But 50% of the time, when I go to shutdown, my system hangs at "Windows is shutting down" screen. It'll just stay there forever until I pull the power plug. Anyone else run into this?

HTPC specs:
P4 3.0 Ghz Prescott
Asus P4P800 SE
XFX Nvidia 6600GT AGP
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy

I have the exact same problem in my system, no luck to have it work, when I unistall Fusion 5 drivers my system is very stable and the shutdown problem disappears. I left DViCO a message regarding this issue and if they don't find a solution I will dump this crap in the garbage and use another HD card.

AMD Dual 64 +3800
1GB ram
Foxconn NF4UK-8AA
Gigabyte nVidia 6600
Hauppauge WinTV 150
Dvico FusionHDTV 5 Gold

vichkhan
03-23-06, 01:35 AM
I just received a repli from DViCO that they recommend NVDVD decoder, does that make sense? any user with same combination tv cards who uses NVDVD without problems?

VideoJames
03-23-06, 02:12 AM
I have the exact same problem in my system, no luck to have it work, when I unistall Fusion 5 drivers my system is very stable and the shutdown problem disappears. I left DViCO a message regarding this issue and if they don't find a solution I will dump this crap in the garbage and use another HD card.

AMD Dual 64 +3800
1GB ram
Foxconn NF4UK-8AA
Gigabyte nVidia 6600
Hauppauge WinTV 150
Dvico FusionHDTV 5 Gold

I had this problem also, where it was always hanging at the Windows is Shutting Down message, and was finally able to fix it. In Device Manager, under Sound, Video and Game Controllers, find the FusionHDTV xxx, WDM Crossbar device and disable it. Then reboot; you'll still get stuck at the shutting down message one last time. After that, I haven't had any problems.

You will run into a prblem if you then try to use the Fusion card for analog video capturing through the s-video or composite connections. But if you've already got an analog tuner card installed, use that card for analog captures and you should be ok.

KKTVRO
03-25-06, 11:01 AM
Unless I missed something, and I would be happy if someone could point that out.
I didn't see anything that allowed going higher than ch 125 without mapping
a lower channel to a higher. That sounded like loosing the lower channel.

What I was hoping for is a registry mod to allow the fusion software
to scan to a higher channel (of my choosing) in the configuration mode.

Another thought. Would this tuner be useable to pick up other services?
For example, Police, Ham Radio on VHF/UHF? I realize it is demodulated
with software but then a software wizzard might figure that out?

I thought it would be cool to use it with an outside antenna and receive
other services. There are such dedicated USB devices for vhf/uhf reception
that connect to a USB port.

KKTVRO

if you haven't found the posts yet, start at my post where i stated "btw that registry key might be where a change could be made to tune the higher rf frequencies above rf125 from what i have read so far. some one with a lot more knowledge would need to comment on that though before i'd make any changes."

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7112324&&#post7112324

read down the thread to see that terry followed with a working fix.

TPeterson
03-25-06, 12:35 PM
Give me a break! It's a freakin' HDTV card and DVICO has enough on its hands in trying to get it to do that job reliably for OTA and cable. No way are they going to be encouraged to tackle more.

The reg hack to access higher channels than 125 is all you're going to find for now. I'm not aware of any 860 MHz cable system that uses all 134 channels for (D)TV, so it's not a bad interim solution. (And it's better than what's available from any of the "competition" so far if you need it)

KAXKID
03-25-06, 01:26 PM
...
I didn't see anything that allowed going higher than ch 125 without mapping
a lower channel to a higher. That sounded like loosing the lower channel.

What I was hoping for is a registry mod to allow the fusion software
to scan to a higher channel (of my choosing) in the configuration mode.

Another thought. Would this tuner be useable to pick up other services?
For example, Police, Ham Radio on VHF/UHF? I realize it is demodulated
with software but then a software wizzard might figure that out?

I thought it would be cool to use it with an outside antenna and receive
other services. There are such dedicated USB devices for vhf/uhf reception
that connect to a USB port.

KKTVRO
ok, yes the registry "hack" described was just a re-assignment of channel numbers to other fregs. if you want to increase the actual number of channels for the tuner, i'll refer you to the oiginal microsoft page that shows how to increase the number of channels. the problem with that "hack" would be that you would still have to add your own freqs to the database, from what i understand the information says.

quoted from microsoft:
"This mechanism can also be used to create new channel numbers outside the existing range in the frequency table. The IAMTuner::ChannelMinMax method will return the extended channel range. For example, if the original channel range was 1 to 158, and a channel override of "200" is added to the registry, the ChannelMinMax method will return 200 as the maximum channel. In this case, channel numbers in the range of 159 to 199 will have no frequencies assigned to them, so any tuning requests in that range will automatically fail."

here's the ms link: http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/?url=/library/en-us/directshow/htm/frequencyoverrides.asp

TPeterson
03-25-06, 01:35 PM
Steve--

Although the MSFT info indicates that it's possible to increase the scan range (and the Registry keys appear to support that) the Fusion app crashes if you change the max channel parameter, so that's not currently an option for FusionHDTV.

KAXKID
03-25-06, 02:43 PM
Steve--

Although the MSFT info indicates that it's possible to increase the scan range (and the Registry keys appear to support that) the Fusion app crashes if you change the max channel parameter, so that's not currently an option for FusionHDTV.

we are talking about two different places in the registry. the fusion app won't crash because of a change in the tuning space max channel setting.

TPeterson
03-25-06, 02:52 PM
Oh, but it does. (Remember, experiment trumps theory every time. ;))

KAXKID
03-25-06, 03:17 PM
Oh, but it does. (Remember, experiment trumps theory every time. ;))
i just upped the max channel setting in the tuning space to 160 from the default 158 and it does not crash the fusion app. i'm not talking about the max channel setting in the fusion app registry entry. i'm talking about the tuning space registry entry. two different places, as i said before. take a look at the registry entry again for tuning space 1 which is cable, you will see it is set at 158 by default. there are tuning space entries for antenna, radio, atsc etc.

the default 158 is already higher than dvico has allowed for in the fusion app so raising this number does not effect the fusion app or tuner while using the fusion app.

i've added a screen dump of the tuning space for analog cable registry entry, highlighting the max channel key.

do not mess with the registry if you do not understand the microsoft information!!

changing the tuning space max channel entry allows the operating system address higher channels if the software is up to the chore. obviousely dvico has put their own limit in the fusion app, but kktvro was suggesting that a "software wizzard" might be able to write something to address the higher channels. i just referred kktvro to the original ms info.

do not change the registry if you do not understand the microsoft information!!!

the "registry "hack" you came up with was to re-define an existing channel number in the tuning space entry, so the operating system went to a freq different from the default freq.

TPeterson
03-25-06, 03:38 PM
OK, I'm sorry, you're right. My memory was faulty about the location of the key that caused a crash. It is the Fusion max channel value that cannot be changed from 125, even though the DirectX keys (as you noted) already contain a higher value. :(

I guess the point still is that DVICO's software refuses to allow you to define more channels than the "normal" 125, so that altering the DirectX keys won't buy you anything.

KKTVRO
03-25-06, 11:12 PM
Could you state the registry entry so I can find it
and would you give an example of what you did?

thanks
KKTVRO

i just upped the max channel setting in the tuning space to 160 from the default 158 and it does not crash the fusion app. i'm not talking about the max channel setting in the fusion app registry entry. i'm talking about the tuning space registry entry. two different places, as i said before. take a look at the registry entry again for tuning space 1 which is cable, you will see it is set at 158 by default. there are tuning space entries for antenna, radio, atsc etc.

the tuning space max channel entry allows the operating system address higher channels if the software is up to the chore. obviousely dvico has put their own limit in the fusion app, but kktvro was suggesting that a "software wizzard" might be able to write something to address the higher channels. i just referred kktvro to the original ms info.

the "registry "hack" you came up with was to re-define an existing channel number in the tuning space entry, so the operating system went to a freq different from the default freq.

KAXKID
03-26-06, 01:57 AM
Could you state the registry entry so I can find it
and would you give an example of what you did?

thanks
KKTVRO
i've edited my previous post and sent you a pm to help clarify the info i posted.

KAXKID
03-26-06, 02:01 AM
...
I guess the point still is that DVICO's software refuses to allow you to define more channels than the "normal" 125, so that altering the DirectX keys won't buy you anything.
other than changing "normal" to limited, you are correct.

BritOverseas
04-27-06, 05:55 PM
What is the difference between the lite version and the "Full' version (apart from fiddy bucks that is)??

KAXKID
04-27-06, 08:32 PM
What is the difference between the lite version and the "Full' version (apart from fiddy bucks that is)??
this has been asked/answered a number of times, basically the lite version has the s-video port blocked so you can't use it. there are other differences also and the dvico site has a list of all the product differences plus pictures where you can see the s-video port on the gold version and the lite version with the s-video port blocked by the mounting bracket.

KKTVRO
05-04-06, 10:38 AM
I have my fusionHDTV5 USB Gold streaming video and audio to the Internet.
I can only make the fusion receive anaolg signals not digital from either over
the air or digital cable.

Would anyone know how to make the fusion receive digital signals while
using Windows Media Encoder 9 ?

thanks
KKTVRO

grizzledbiker
05-05-06, 07:07 AM
What?? You mean I paid more for the full version so I could use the s-video input and your saying now that the lite version has it as well? Geez, all I'd have to do is modify the bracket. Right? Don't like the remote anyway. Too big, bulky and I can't read those stupid purple labels. Prefer to use a wireless mouse for my plasma screen aps anyway.

KAXKID
05-05-06, 08:55 AM
What?? You mean I paid more for the full version so I could use the s-video input and your saying now that the lite version has it as well? Geez, all I'd have to do is modify the bracket. Right? Don't like the remote anyway. Too big, bulky and I can't read those stupid purple labels. Prefer to use a wireless mouse for my plasma screen aps anyway.
yes, that and a few other differences that have been posted before. as i remember, part of the software suite also does not work for the "lite" model.

TPeterson
05-05-06, 11:47 AM
yes, that and a few other differences that have been posted before. as i remember, part of the software suite also does not work for the "lite" model.Fusion Converter refuses to play ball if you have the Lite card versions.

Fast351
05-05-06, 12:05 PM
Anyone know what changed from the previous F5 cards to the new "RT" versions that are now available?

Just curious, the DViCO website seems a little fuzzy about it.

-Mike

KAXKID
05-05-06, 12:14 PM
Anyone know what changed from the previous F5 cards to the new "RT" versions that are now available?

Just curious, the DViCO website seems a little fuzzy about it.

-Mike
orangecream wrote a good post about that here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7382743&&#post7382743

Fast351
05-05-06, 12:52 PM
Ahh thanks for that. It seems the only difference is the ability to wake the PC using the remote and a scheduling tool.

Since the Lite version of the card (which is what I'd get since I already have a F5G installed in the system and don't need another capture path or remote) it only buys you wakeup capability. I guess I don't need that since it always stays running anyway, and I have remote shutoff capabilities via my IR/VFD remote package.

I'll stick with the "regular" version.

-Mike

qpham
05-07-06, 03:49 PM
I plan to buy this product, and have one question. Have anyone only connect to Cable TV and be able to view unscramble HD channels?

j8weeks
05-07-06, 04:52 PM
Another difference between Gold and "light" is the chipset -- they are different. I believe (could be wrong) that the Gold version has some newer parts. I own both, and my Linux/MythTV box only has driver support for the Fusion 5 Gold in the 2.6.16 kernel, not the "light" version -- I am going to swap the cards to verify (and hopefully get QAM scheduling working under MythTV) as soon as I get some time. Hehe -- I wish I would have done some more research before buying the light card as my 2nd Fusion 5 card to put in my Linux box. Beware that scheduling QAM recordings with TitanTV and multiple subchannels on the same RF is somewhat of an "adventure" with the supplied software on Windows. The bundled software has only slightly improved incrementally in months (as you can probably tell from these threads). :(

KKTVRO
05-12-06, 10:13 AM
I have been able to get a few of my local channels in HD from my cable
along with HBO ON DEMAND channels
I have the fusionHDTV5 USB

Ken

I plan to buy this product, and have one question. Have anyone only connect to Cable TV and be able to view unscramble HD channels?

grizzledbiker
05-13-06, 10:13 AM
Yeah but don't you have to subscribe to HBO? I have same card. comcast.

KAXKID
05-13-06, 11:55 AM
Yeah but don't you have to subscribe to HBO? I have same card. comcast.
depends on what your cable company is doing. the fusion software displays all unencrypted channels. on some cable systems that will include "on-demand" channels.

CityK
05-13-06, 12:00 PM
I own both, and my Linux/MythTV box only has driver support for the Fusion 5 Gold in the 2.6.16 kernel, not the "light" version -- I am going to swap the cards to verifySupport for the "Lite" version has been natively available since 2.6.15

zmn668
05-14-06, 07:49 AM
Hi all. I just bought a Fusion5 Lite RT unsing 3.3.01 driver for my MCE box and am disappointed. I have managed to avoid the stuttering issues many have reported by using a pci slot that has it's own IRQ. My problem is signal strength. On my Dish 811 HDTV receiver my signal strength for all of my locals is in the high 80's to mid 90's. I live in pittsburgh PA and am within 4 miles of all my transmitters. i am using a Winegard Squareshooter mounted on my roof. On the fusion the signal strength is at least 10 to 15% lower per the signal checker software and I notice intermittent dropouts when watching through the Fusion that aren't there throught the dish box. Also the strength meter on the Dish box is very stable with only minor fluctuations where the fusion jumps 10 to 12 percentage points up and down much of the time. I bought the fusion for its 5th gen tuner but so far I am not impressed. Any ideas?

Bill

grizzledbiker
05-14-06, 09:52 AM
I'm not really much impressed either. I thought my fusion 3 did as good as if not slightly better job. don't think they'd take my return now after several months of use.

TPeterson
05-14-06, 01:32 PM
Bill & Grizzled--

The "signal strength" numeric levels are not meaningful between different tuners, as they are on different arbitrary scales. A nonsteady reading usually is caused by multipath reception conditions, but may have other sources too. One thing to try is to reduce your signal level into the tuner by putting in an attenuator, because you may be overdriving the tuner's input circuits. You likely need 10-20 dB to achieve any affect, so either use at least two cascaded 3-way splitters or something like a Radio Shack rf attenuator.

arcticool
05-17-06, 01:29 AM
Sorry if I'm not posting in the right thread but I'm desperate and need advice!

My FusionTV stutters for 2-6 seconds at a time. The full screen just acts like I paused it then eventually continues. This happens about once per minute. I have the latest drivers, am not recording in real time(no time shift), my cpu and hard disk utilization never spike and always stay relatively low, and my reception is always 30+db and reads 99 or 100%.

Jumpin Jeazus on a pogo stick what's the problem here?

This is so bad and so frequent as to make this entire investment useless- I NEVER use my HDTV card B/C of this issue and would sure like to see a fix.

Any suggestions/ideas much appreciated.
Thanks,

AC

TPeterson
05-17-06, 01:43 AM
AC--

Check your IDE controller properties in Device Manager to make sure that it's using Ultra DMA and not PIO I/O mode. (Even though you're not recording, Windows needs to periodically access the HDD and PIO mode will slow that to a crawl) Then look at the IRQ assignment for your Fusion Card and see if it's shared with something else. If so, try moving your PCI cards around to either eliminate or change the sharing.

acer
05-18-06, 09:32 PM
Just got my fusion hdtv rt gold. Hooked it up and I am very impressed. Picture quality is very good, and I pick up the same channels that I can get with my sony hdtv. No errors or problems yet. Highly recommended.

Fast351
05-18-06, 10:14 PM
Have a Fusion 5 Gold and a Fusion 5 Lite now running in the same box. It was not without it's problems. I had serious stutters on an HTPC that was behiving pretty well before I installed the lite card.

Turns out I had a conflicting interrupt.

Check in Programs|Accessories|System Tools|System Information to see if you have conflicting interrupts.

On my system it turned out the video card was on the same IRQ as the second tuner.

I went into the BIOS and enabled PnP OS. Then Windows resolved the issue and all was well.

-Mike

kczmudzin
05-19-06, 05:57 PM
I have a F5GoldPlus (PCI.) I only have one problem with it. When watching HD FOX the Fusion software stops playing every 15 minutes, has to be killed from Task Manager and restarted.

I'm almost 100% sure that this only happens when commercials are played and only when a new commercial starts. I wonder if there is something in FOX's signal that causes the tuner to stop or is it only software-related. How can I check this?

TPeterson
05-19-06, 08:12 PM
kcz--

Yes, this is a known problem with some FOX stations. (Reportedly, it also affects DVHS recorders) As a workaround, try using the other of DxVA/software video rendering from the one that you're using in Fusion configuration and I think that you'll see the hanging go away.

kczmudzin
05-20-06, 02:29 PM
kcz--

Yes, this is a known problem with some FOX stations. (Reportedly, it also affects DVHS recorders) As a workaround, try using the other of DxVA/software video rendering from the one that you're using in Fusion configuration and I think that you'll see the hanging go away.

TPeterson,

Thanks. I don't use DxVA because I still haven't bought a decent video card; I'm using the built-in Intel 910 video controller with Normal Quality. Do you have any other suggestions?

-- kcz

TPeterson
05-20-06, 03:21 PM
AFAIK, the only available workaround for the FOX problem is to use the DxVA driver (or boycott FOX :D). It's been pointed out to DViCo, but they seem not able/inclined to fix the sw driver to accomodate FOX's idiosyncracy.

kczmudzin
05-20-06, 05:50 PM
Thanks again. Well I guess it's time to buy a new video card. Will GIGABYTE GV-NX66L128DP Geforce 6600LE 128MB DDR be sufficient?

TPeterson
05-20-06, 06:49 PM
The best bang-for-buck with the Fusion cards is an MX-4000 video card, as the Fusion DxVA driver seems optimized for the older MX series cards. It works with the newer ones too, but doesn't give anywhere near the same acceleration (i.e., reduction in CPU loading).

kczmudzin
05-20-06, 07:02 PM
Unfortunately, I'm stuck with PCI-E x16. Any recommendations?

jim tressler
05-22-06, 01:19 PM
kczmudzin - I use the "GIGABYTE GV-NX66128DP Geforce 6600 128MB DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card" - no problems!

kczmudzin
05-23-06, 02:06 AM
I have ASUS P5GL-MX motherboard. The manual lists the following video cards as the only "qualified:"

ASUS EAX600XT
ASUS EAX600XT/TD
ASUS EAX600Pro
ASUS EAX800XT
ASUS EN6200GE
ASUS EN6600GT
ASUS EN5750
ASUS EN6600
ASUS EN6800/TD
Leadtek WinFast PX360TD (NVIDIA GF PCX 5750)
MSI NX6600 (NVIDIA GF6600)

I sent an e-mail to the DVICO tech support asking what is the best "qualified" video card to use with the Fusion 5 Gold and DxVA drivers. I received the following reply:

Hi.
Our many users are using the ASUS EN6600GT without problem.
Thanks.

A friend at work happened to have a spare so I borrowed it and tried it tonight. As I write this message I have not had even one software crash due to my FOX channel's "idiosyncrasy" TPeterson mentioned.

The exact model of the card is ASUS EN6600GT/TD/128M. It would be interesting to try a plain 6600 to see how it compares. Maybe I could save some money.

BTW, I don't really believe that only "qualified" cards would work with my motherboard. But this just makes the set of cards to choose from so much smaller.

KAXKID
05-23-06, 02:51 AM
I have ASUS P5GL-MX motherboard. The manual lists the following video cards as the only "qualified:"

ASUS EAX600XT
ASUS EAX600XT/TD
ASUS EAX600Pro
ASUS EAX800XT
ASUS EN6200GE
ASUS EN6600GT
ASUS EN5750
ASUS EN6600
ASUS EN6800/TD
Leadtek WinFast PX360TD (NVIDIA GF PCX 5750)
MSI NX6600 (NVIDIA GF6600)

I sent an e-mail to the DVICO tech support asking what is the best "qualified" video card to use with the Fusion 5 Gold and DxVA drivers. I received the your postfollowing reply:

Hi.
Our many users are using the ASUS EN6600GT without problem.
Thanks.

A friend at work happened to have a spare so I borrowed it and tried it tonight. As I write this message I have not had even one software crash due to my FOX channel's "idiosyncrasy" TPeterson mentioned.

The exact model of the card is ASUS EN6600GT/TD/128M. It would be interesting to try a plain 6600 to see how it compares. Maybe I could save some money.

BTW, I don't really believe that only "qualified" cards would work with my motherboard. But this just makes the set of cards to choose from so much smaller.
your post is helpful but it would be more helpful to add what version of the fusion app and os you are using also.
thanks.

grizzledbiker
05-23-06, 08:37 AM
still using ATI AIW 9700 pro. AGP w/ socket A AMD 2800+ barton. no problems associated with use of that card in configuration with fusoin 5 gold that I'm aware of. ('cept me thinks my fusion 3 was just as good)

kczmudzin
05-23-06, 12:23 PM
your post is helpful but it would be more helpful to add what version of the fusion app and os you are using also.
thanks.

I have Windows XP Prof SP 2, which I keep up to date. Also, I have the latest version (3.30.01) of the Fusion software, which I downloaded from the DVICO web site.

My system is ASUS P5GL-MX w/ Intel Pentium 4 630 (3 GHz) w/ HT enabled, 1GB 3200 Kingston. I hope this will indeed help somebody.

TPeterson
05-23-06, 12:37 PM
As I write this message I have not had even one software crash due to my FOX channel's "idiosyncrasy" TPeterson mentioned.

The exact model of the card is ASUS EN6600GT/TD/128M. It would be interesting to try a plain 6600 to see how it compares. Maybe I could save some money.Was this with the DxVA or sw rendering mode?

(OK, I did misspell "idiosyncrasy"! I guess I'm writing with too much democrasy. :D)

kczmudzin
05-23-06, 12:55 PM
The crash happened when I DID NOT use DxVA. When I tried to use DxVA with my onboard video, I was getting bad pixelation at the bottom 1/5th of the screen and otherwise rather bad quality. When I tried the ASUS EN6600GT with DxVA I got both: very good quality and no more software crashes.

So to answer your question, I have not had one crash WITH DxVA.

TPeterson
05-23-06, 01:03 PM
...and FOX still crashes with sw rendering on the 6600GT, correct?

kczmudzin
05-23-06, 03:55 PM
yes

floryjm
05-29-06, 11:08 PM
Both of these are supposed to be able to use Titan programming guide. Originally, I set up MyHD with Titan, then I decided to try and use Fusion5 with Titan. When I hit the record button on the Titan guide it insists on adding it the MYHD's scheduled recordings even after changing to Fusion5 tuner in Titan settings. I also disabled EPG in MyHD, It still insists on using MYHD to record in Titan. Anyone know the answer to this one?

TPeterson
05-29-06, 11:14 PM
You need to set the association of TVPI files in Windows Explorer to the Fusion tray app instead of to the MyHD TitanTVHelper app.

StevenRF
05-31-06, 10:36 PM
Just got the Fusion5 RT and installed it. I'm having reception problems for cable TV. The school campus provides the cable for us. I can get reception of the 5 local channels over the antennae setting perfectly, but the 54 cable channels are showing up in black and white with bars angled to the top right covering the picture. The audio is coming out as white noise too. Any ideas? This is my first tuner card so I'm in the dark.

KAXKID
05-31-06, 11:11 PM
Just got the Fusion5 RT and installed it. I'm having reception problems for cable TV. The school campus provides the cable for us. I can get reception of the 5 local channels over the antennae setting perfectly, but the 54 cable channels are showing up in black and white with bars angled to the top right covering the picture. The audio is coming out as white noise too. Any ideas? This is my first tuner card so I'm in the dark.
it's possible the campus is using the HRC freq range. if so, Dvico has a FAQ concerning that here:http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/Eng/Support/FAQChannelScanning.aspx?act=RD&id=205&pg=0&CATID=11&SCATID=44

StevenRF
06-01-06, 12:35 AM
Yea I installed that HRC reg file. No luck.

TPeterson
06-01-06, 12:47 AM
Do you have another TV to try with that cable feed? It sounds to me likely that it has a low signal level.

StevenRF
06-01-06, 01:51 AM
Well my roomate is using a TV tuner and he gets all the channels. It's a different brand so I dont see how the signal can cause the problem.

KAXKID
06-01-06, 02:18 AM
Well my roomate is using a TV tuner and he gets all the channels. It's a different brand so I dont see how the signal can cause the problem.
what does the fusion control panel show in the config screen labeled channel? have you changed "input" to cable and done a scan or are you still on "ant". do you have any unencrypted channels? any analog listed?

what happened when you tried the HRC fix?

it's also possible there is something in the registry for "TV System Services\TVAutoTune\TS0-1" that is causing the wrong freq range. what does that registry entry show? how does that compare with what your room mate shows in the same entry for the working reception?

of course we probably need to know more about your system also. what OS, what fusion app version, any other tv cards installed, other tv software etc??

as a test, try this: leave the campus cable system connected to your fusion card, but change the input mode on the fusion software to "ant" and scan the channels. on a normal cable system you should receive analog channels 2-13.

StevenRF
06-01-06, 12:17 PM
The config screen has the following

TV(USA)
Antenna
Channels 7 through 13 all as analog type, no encoding

Cable TV
Channels 7 through 13, 17 through 64, all as analog, no encoding

To get these I scanned once on antenna, and once on cable tv. I think they are all enencrypted as the cable channels show up, but just in black and white.

The HRC fix didn't do anything, but the problem is that I applied it when I wasn't getting the scans working after I installed the card in the very beginning. So I'm thinking that maybe thats messing it up? Is there a way to reverse it?

As for checking the registry, how do I access it? To do the reg fix I just ran it.

System specs. Fusion5 RT Gold version 3.30.1

Mobo: ECS K-7
Ram: 256mb
Proc: Athlon xp 2000+
Sound: Maudio Revo 7.1


I ran the auto scan on both ant and cable. I get the 5 local ant channels in color with perfect audio. In cable mode, I receive those, plus many more, but the color is BW and the audio is white noise.

KAXKID
06-01-06, 07:17 PM
...
As for checking the registry, how do I access it? To do the reg fix I just ran it.

...
from you responses to my suggestions, i'm not clear what you have done or have not done, so i will try to answer this question first. the registry key that you need to take a look at is:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\TV System Services\TVAutoTune\TS0-1

you get there by going to start, run, and typing regedit and hit ok.

there was nothing in the faq link i sent you that was an executable program, you would have had to run regedit to have edited the registry to change to HRC.

Brad M.
06-02-06, 04:51 PM
there was nothing in the faq link i sent you that was an executable program, you would have had to run regedit to have edited the registry to change to HRC.

That's not necessarily true. On some versions of Windows I've seen, you can click on a .reg file and it'll register it without you having to run regedit. It normally prompts before importing it though.

KAXKID
06-02-06, 06:58 PM
That's not necessarily true. On some versions of Windows I've seen, you can click on a .reg file and it'll register it without you having to run regedit. It normally prompts before importing it though.
yes, you are correct.

supes
06-09-06, 08:54 PM
So I just got the Fusion HDTV Gold RT and put it in. So far I am happy. I have family cable (no cable box) and with this can grab the digital channels that my cable company has. I also tried to use the antenna but can not get any HD channels (only digital, i think).

However, I can solve the HD problems over time.

The main problem I have is when I record a video, it has a sharp humming in the back ground of the video I record (MPG 2 file, normal quality). ANyone else get this and know how to fix it?

The HDTV card is connected to the sound card using the "Line-in" on the sound card.

TPeterson
06-09-06, 09:01 PM
The cable between the FusionHDTV and the sound card is for analog audio only (and isn't required for the gold cards at all). Look at the digital audio options and try various of them to see what works best for you.

{Edit: I see that I misread your post and that you were talking about analog recordings. To reduce ground loop humming, you can try KAXID's suggestion below or seek the source of the hum, which is probably a poor ground connection somewhere or a bad power supply voltage regulator that's putting ripple on one of the dc power rails}

KAXKID
06-09-06, 09:48 PM
...
The main problem I have is when I record a video, it has a sharp humming in the back ground of the video I record (MPG 2 file, normal quality). ANyone else get this and know how to fix it?

The HDTV card is connected to the sound card using the "Line-in" on the sound card.
i have mine connected to the "cd player". i had a sound problem that i fixed by setting the "level" setting on the analog tab of the record/timeshift screen to 50%(down from 100%). maybe that will work for you.

supes
06-09-06, 10:31 PM
i have mine connected to the "cd player". i had a sound problem that i fixed by setting the "level" setting on the analog tab of the record/timeshift screen to 50%(down from 100%). maybe that will work for you.

I tried both. Didnt work man. Mine is set to "Line-in" right now. Maybe it is the audio attenuation. I have mine at -15. I tried it at -10 but I hear echoes at that.

Also, how does this work with a dish if you have a dish hooked up? Say I have Direct TV and plug in from the dish to to the card, will it work like it does with cable?

KAXKID
06-09-06, 10:55 PM
I tried both. Didnt work man. Mine is set to "Line-in" right now. Maybe it is the audio attenuation. I have mine at -15. I tried it at -10 but I hear echoes at that.

Also, how does this work with a dish if you have a dish hooked up? Say I have Direct TV and plug in from the dish to to the card, will it work like it does with cable?
fusion cards are not for "dish".
mute the line-in in your audio card manager and the echoes will go away, then readjust your attenuation to default and maybe you will be ok.

supes
06-10-06, 03:40 PM
fusion cards are not for "dish".
mute the line-in in your audio card manager and the echoes will go away, then readjust your attenuation to default and maybe you will be ok.

Well, something is wrong. I muted the line-in and adjusted the audio recording level to 10% and it is still recording loud. Attenuation is now -10 and "PC speakers" is selected. The echoes are gone but he sharp humming and excessively loud recording are still there. hmm... :confused:

KAXKID
06-10-06, 05:09 PM
Well, something is wrong. I muted the line-in and adjusted the audio recording level to 10% and it is still recording loud. Attenuation is now -10 and "PC speakers" is selected. The echoes are gone but he sharp humming and excessively loud recording are still there. hmm... :confused:
the echoes are gone because you have disabled the second sound source, the line-in that you have connected. now you can go back to the sound manager again and readjust down the wave volume and/or the volume for playback. that may get you what you want. good luck.

sumavguy
06-10-06, 05:28 PM
Is anyone using the Fusion HDTVGold 5 with Beyond TV? I haven't been able to get it to work, other than once but it was with analog stations and they looked horrible compared to using the Fusion's software on the same channel. Also how can I receive HD stations with Beyond as I've had no luck. I like all of the control I have with Beyond TV, but so far the picture has been very dissappointing compared to just using Fusion's software.

I've tried going straight from the wall, and going from my HD time warner box.

Overall I'm very happy with this HD card except it seems like if I leave the computer for a few hours or shut it off, I always have to do an autoscan again so I can receive HD channels. If I don't it just shows singal 100% and 0 dB.

TPeterson
06-10-06, 06:10 PM
sumav--

Where are you and which Fusion sw are you using? (Put a location in your profile) You'll likely find that the more recent versions retain channel configurations better. I suggest that you go to DViCo's support site and download the "3.41 beta3" code to test. Make sure that you used KAXKID's installation procedure documented in the Fusion threads here on AVS when you update the sw.

Are you trying to receive OTA or cable HDTV on BTV? It only works for OTA.

KAXKID
06-10-06, 06:40 PM
...I've tried going straight from the wall, and going from my HD time warner box.

...
the fusion card should not be run thru the "HD time warner box". if you are going to use the time warner feed, just hook the fusion card to the cable not thru the box.
then in the fusion app goto the configuaration screen labeled "Channel", make sure the button labeled "CableTV" is dinged and run an "AutoScan" for "Digital & Analog".
that should give you your list of viewable, un-encrypted channels. good luck.

sumavguy
06-10-06, 07:12 PM
When I did do it that way it works great with Fusion's software, but looks bad with Beyond TV. I can't even get HD channels with Beyond TV when connected to the wall while with the Fusion software I can. I can't "find" the HD channels with Beyond which I believe is my problem.

Also I have been trying to record my saved shows on my TWC box, which I have been successful, but only if I play the files through my computer speakers that I have connected to my sound card(I pulled this sound card from my old computer since my new one has onboard sound[Dell 9100], but I want to stream it to my Show Center and it doesn't bring the sound with it. I've currently been using the red/white/svideo connection. Is there a way of doing this?

sumavguy
06-10-06, 07:25 PM
TPerterson -

I'm located near Syracuse, NY. I am using 3.19 right now I believe(I have switched a few times earlier when testing things). The only trouble I'm having with Dvico software is having to scan for HD channels after I've restarted my computer or haven't used it for a bit, and the EPG never showing information. I haven't used KAXKID's installation procedure, but I will try it out.

I'm using it for OTA, as I didn't think the Fusion Card or any card out right now could "use" TWC's box or HD box even if I already pay for it.

Thank you both TPerterson and KAXKID for the help.

sumav--

Where are you and which Fusion sw are you using? (Put a location in your profile) You'll likely find that the more recent versions retain channel configurations better. I suggest that you go to DViCo's support site and download the "3.41 beta3" code to test. Make sure that you used KAXKID's installation procedure documented in the Fusion threads here on AVS when you update the sw.

Are you trying to receive OTA or cable HDTV on BTV? It only works for OTA.

TPeterson
06-10-06, 08:52 PM
sumav--

As KAXKID said, you don't use the cable set-top box with FusionHDTV (or with any DTV tuner for that matter), you go directly to the cable wall jack. The FusionHDTV sw can tune any non-encrypted cable stuff, but BTV cannot--it's strictly over-the-air ATSC because the BDA drivers that it uses don't handle cable's QAM signals. Follow his instructions above to set up FusionHDTV for cable DTV operation.

sumavguy
06-10-06, 09:51 PM
TPeterson-

Thanks for clearing that up for me, I figured that since the Dvico could "find" the HD channels that BTV would, as I miss interpreted OTA channels. The only reason why now I'm connecting my TWC box is have it act as a VCR, so I can record all of my previous recorders on my box. I know I won't get HD quality, but most of it isn't in HD quality. I have successfully dont it, but not exactly how I want to because I have to have a sound card installed on the computer to get the sound out after I have recorded it to my computer. Basically I'm dumping my recordings from my DVR onto my computer so that I can clear more space on my DVR. I'm not trying to record "regular" TV from my box as I think you think I'm trying to do, and I apologize if I had confused you.

Thank you again for the help.


sumav--

As KAXKID said, you don't use the cable set-top box with FusionHDTV (or with any DTV tuner for that matter), you go directly to the cable wall jack. The FusionHDTV sw can tune any non-encrypted cable stuff, but BTV cannot--it's strictly over-the-air ATSC because the BDA drivers that it uses don't handle cable's QAM signals. Follow his instructions above to set up FusionHDTV for cable DTV operation.

supes
06-11-06, 01:41 PM
the echoes are gone because you have disabled the second sound source, the line-in that you have connected. now you can go back to the sound manager again and readjust down the wave volume and/or the volume for playback. that may get you what you want. good luck.

I found out what it was...My recording volumes were all too high....by playing around with them, i got the sharp noise to fade out (almost completely)..thanx for the help...

Incase anyone else has this problem here is what I did to fix it:
Double click on the volume icon is sys tray..."Play Control" comes up
Go to "Options" followed by "Properties"
Click "Recording" radio button and then click "OK"
When you get back, adjust "Wave/MP3" volume...this is what helped me..



About connecting to an HD antenna...I dont get any HD signals, just digital cable signals...maybe I am doing something wrong or maybe I am too far away from the towers (~30mi). I live in the suburbs also. I think I may need a hoof antenna or something more powerful in general to get HD content.

KAXKID
06-11-06, 03:58 PM
About connecting to an HD antenna...I dont get any HD signals, just digital cable signals...
this statement is not making sense. how are you getting "digital cable signals" from "an HD antenna"????

it sounds as though you may not fully understand the vocabulary associated with digital tv broadcast signals.

an ota antenna(HD antenna) will recieve digital tv signals including HD content if the broasdcast station is broadcasting HD content.

cable systems normally provide an signal on the wire that includes analog stations and digital stations which include HD content.

the fusion card will receive the analog and the digital stations from either ota antenna or cable wire with out using the cablebox.

sumavguy
06-11-06, 09:18 PM
Yeah it seems the only channels I get in HD are ABC, NBC, one of the Discovery channels, and PBS, then the rest of the "digital" channels are TWC on demand advertising, or TWC advertising. I do get "the tube" and a weather channel both in analog, but for some reason they come up as digital channels.

I'm still trying to figure out all of the true HD channels I get though.

supes
06-12-06, 06:53 PM
this statement is not making sense. how are you getting "digital cable signals" from "an HD antenna"????

it sounds as though you may not fully understand the vocabulary associated with digital tv broadcast signals.

an ota antenna(HD antenna) will recieve digital tv signals including HD content if the broasdcast station is broadcasting HD content.

cable systems normally provide an signal on the wire that includes analog stations and digital stations which include HD content.

the fusion card will receive the analog and the digital stations from either ota antenna or cable wire with out using the cablebox.

I think I understand it quite well. Maybe I just said it wrong.

In the end, I dont think I get any true HD from where I am located. I do pick up a lot of Philadelphia channels and some NYC channels, but neither in HD, just analog stuff.

I do pick up 1 "digital" (HD) channel OTA and that is PBS, but who in their right mind can call that HD.

BradGinter
06-12-06, 07:19 PM
Is there anything out there that can decrypt the encrypted channels so that you can record them on your PC? I want to record ESPN HD and channels like that. Is there a way to record your DirectTV channels along with Cable (I have both)?

moyekj
06-12-06, 07:24 PM
Is there anything out there that can decrypt the encrypted channels so that you can record them on your PC? I want to record ESPN HD and channels like that. Is there a way to record your DirectTV channels along with Cable (I have both)? We wish! But AFAIK no. Windows Vista will supposedly support CableCard in which case recording from encry