DVICO Fusion 5 HDTV tuner

[Wanax]

TPetereson,

Correct, this is under MCE. I haven't tried the FusionHDTV app yet, it seems to have a problem scanning for channels. I'm gonna toy with it some more tomorrow afternoon and see what happens.

[uriah]

For some reason I can not get remote (gold 5 rt sw version3.41 to be seen. I have used the fusion remote setup but test does not work.
Win xp sp2 athlon 3000+ asus k8 deluxe gforce 6200 wd and segate 200gig hds

second issue is when outputting to sdtv via svhs (no hdtv yet) the analog picture is as broadcast but digital varies sometimes wide screen and at times filling screen top to bottom but restricted to middle 50% of screen.

Any suggestions or urls of constructive nature sincerely welcomed.

[Wanax]

Well,

It seems to work under the FusionHDTV program. I'm not sure if its using software or hardware rendering though. I would really like it to work right under MCE though. I wonder if this is an issue under Vista.

[TPeterson]

It seems to work under the FusionHDTV program. I'm not sure if its using software or hardware rendering though.The FusionHDTV rendering mode is set in the second tab of the Configuration window. Glad to hear that you got it working.

[TPeterson]

For some reason I can not get remote (gold 5 rt sw version3.41 to be seen. I have used the fusion remote setup but test does not work.I had the same problem. It seems that the tray app sometimes has trouble identifying the right driver for the RT. The (needed one time only) fix from DViCo is to exit the tray app and then restart it from the Start|Programs|Dvico|FusionHDTV menu. If you still have a problem, exit the tray app, and then reinstall the driver.second issue is when outputting to sdtv via svhs (no hdtv yet) the analog picture is as broadcast but digital varies sometimes wide screen and at times filling screen top to bottom but restricted to middle 50% of screen.Did you try the various Aspect Ratio settings in the context menu on the control panel?

[uriah]

I had the same problem. It seems that the tray app sometimes has trouble identifying the right driver for the RT. The (needed one time only) fix from DViCo is to exit the tray app and then restart it from the Start|Programs|Dvico|FusionHDTV menu. If you still have a problem, exit the tray app, and then reinstall the driver.Did you try the various Aspect Ratio settings in the context menu on the control panel?

I believe I have tried your first suggestion already but will try it in the order you stated.

I have tried different ratios and currently have it set to display original ratio but these ratio changes make no difference on the tv screen. The picture quality is excellent except I need to adjust the color a bit but I still get the square picture when I should be getting wide screen. Tomorrow or the next day I will try to do a capture from my DVD player and see what happens.
Thanks
Stan

[Bruce Embry]

This is from the first post 40 pages ago and I still don't see a definitive answer. This card is now over a year old. Does it defeat multipath?

Hi,
I have an Fusion 3 Gold+ and the Fusoin 5 Gold+. I will certianly say the the 5 does solve multipath problems. A few weeks ago I had for the 3 and 5 installed in my HTPC using the Kram Hack for MCE2005 I try doing so dual recordings. The recording from the 3 was unwatchable, where as the recording from the 5 was perfect. The 3 recording was full of dropouts and breakups. Since then I have removed the 3 and install an ATI 650. The ATSC reception of the 650 is on par with the Fusion 5 Gold+. I have also removed Kram hack. The Kram hack caused stablity problems with MCE2005. So I would not recommend the use of the Kram hack.

PS. With using an ATI 650 and Fusion 5 in the same system, I have discovered that the WDM Crossbar driver for the Fusion has to be disable in order for the system to operate properly. I only use the MCE and Nvidia Pure Video decorder for watching TV and DVDs. Everything is now stable.

[JohnCalif]

I have had a PCI FusionHDTV 5 RT since last spring and recently decided to add another FusionHDTV so I purchased the USB version. So far in my limited testing recordings are going pretty well. I tried recording two HDTV programs at once and the CPU utilization never went above 30% and usually was below 20% on my P4 2.6Ghz. I also tried scheduling back-to-back and overlapping programs and there were no problems. I am using the 3.41web version of the software/drivers.

I have had a problem with one channel before and after I got the USB tuner. Sometimes the channel tunes in on 842.1 and other times on 843.1. One recording must have tuned incorrectly because all I got was black video.

Also when I only have one recording scheduled it is always assigned to the USB tuner. Is there some way to assign tuners or set one to be the primary tuner?

When watching live TV there is no indication as to which tuner is being used but PIP does work and I guess you can assume the PIP is the USB tuner based on the PIP settings.

I will do more testing this weekend but this USB tuner works great.

[netbugwang]

Has anyone compared this one to OnAir HDTV-GT?

[uriah]

my xp is hosed and I will have to reinstall. Its also time for an extra hard drive. From prior posts I understand that SATA drives with Silicon Image controllers are to be avoided. Looking at hard drives I do not see any documentation as to which controller they have. Can someone suggest a quiet fast and reliable enterprise class drive in the 320 to 500 gig range. I am leaning toward the 320 as I can get 2 for 620gigs for less than the price of a single 500.
Thanks
Stan

[mikek753]

Hello all,

Would you recommend ATI 650 over DVICO 5 Gold card and why? Or DVICO over ATI 650?
I'm tryong to deside which card to buy.
I don't have or plan to have MCE.

Can DVICO 5 Gold wake up system from stand by? What about from hibernate?
Can it or what software put system after recording to sleep or hibernate?

thanks.

Mike.

[TPeterson]

Its also time for an extra hard drive. From prior posts I understand that SATA drives with Silicon Image controllers are to be avoided. Looking at hard drives I do not see any documentation as to which controller they have. Can someone suggest a quiet fast and reliable enterprise class drive in the 320 to 500 gig range. I am leaning toward the 320 as I can get 2 for 620gigs for less than the price of a single 500.Stan, the problem SATA controller is not in the HDD, it's on the mobo.

[TPeterson]

Can DVICO 5 Gold wake up system from stand by? What about from hibernate?
Can it or what software put system after recording to sleep or hibernate?Yes. The DVICO-bundled sw will fully control wake-up and ACPI S3/S4 sleep states, with or without cooperative Windows Power Options settings--provided your PC's BIOS supports these functions. You can find out if your PC does this by experimenting with the Windows Task Scheduler and Window Power Options to set up tasks (e.g., Calculator.exe) to be run from a hibernated (S4 sleep) PC and then terminated after a time. Then the Power Options timeout will send it back to sleep.

[uriah]

Stan, the problem SATA controller is not in the HDD, it's on the mobo.

Thanks.

The mobo controller is not SI and was worried that HDs might have SI parts also. As this is not the case all that is left is getting a decent HD and reinstalling windows, Linux and 350 gigs of programs and data.

I can schedule and record without problem so the cards main function for me is ok and I will be back asking questions when the reinstall is done.

Stan

[uriah]

Yes. The DVICO-bundled sw will fully control wake-up and ACPI S3/S4 sleep states, with or without cooperative Windows Power Options settings--provided your PC's BIOS supports these functions. You can find out if your PC does this by experimenting with the Windows Task Scheduler and Window Power Options to set up tasks (e.g., Calculator.exe) to be run from a hibernated (S4 sleep) PC and then terminated after a time. Then the Power Options timeout will send it back to sleep.


Is that all the gold 5's or just the gold 5 RT?
Stan

[TPeterson]

All FusionHDTV products use the same sw, so they all have these capabilities. The RT card adds the possibility of "waking" the PC even from S5 (i.e., powered down) using its remote control but it can't schedule captures to run from that state.

[mikek753]

All FusionHDTV products use the same sw, so they all have these capabilities. The RT card adds the possibility of "waking" the PC even from S5 (i.e., powered down) using its remote control but it can't schedule captures to run from that state.

Can you say that RT Gold is more advanced in that way then ATI 650 card?
p.s. I'm trying to choose which card to buy ...

Thanks a lot.

[TPeterson]

I've never used an ATI HDTV card, but last I knew they had no clear-QAM tuning capability. If that's still true, then I'd say that's a pretty clear advantage over the ATI unless you don't have cable.

[mikek753]

I've never used an ATI HDTV card, but last I knew they had no clear-QAM tuning capability. If that's still true, then I'd say that's a pretty clear advantage over the ATI unless you don't have cable.

thank you for the answer.
No I don't have cable and don't plan to get one.

Does RT 5 tuner better then ATI 650 one?

offtopic: How QAM tuning can help with encrypted HD cable content anyway? The same for Dish.

[CityK]

No I don't have cable and don't plan to get one.You have considered the benefits on the analog side of the story right? (if analog is important to you). i.e. 650 has an onboard hardware mpeg2 encoder for pvr use. early user reports indicate that is very high quality. Dvico cards rely on "software" (i.e the host cpu) encoding.

Another important factor you might want to (read should) consider into your decision is the software you are going to use with the device ... or any future plans.

Does RT 5 tuner better then ATI 650 one?Hard to say. Here's why:
- the tuning capabilities of these devices are all relatively similiar
- because one card works well for one individual, and their set of reception circumstances, doesn't mean that they will necessarily work well with the next individual and their system and their unique set of reception circumstances
- that said, given the short amount of time that the ATI card has been available, you're not even likely to find too many users who are running the two side by side in order to give a/"their" subjective opinion on the matter

But more importantly:
- reception is the sum of many, many things. Antenna gain, rg6 quality and length of run, antennalocalatiy and elevation and line of sight to towers, nearby obstructions, weather, valleys, other rf sources, reflections.. etc etc etc .....If you look just at the cards themselves, you have a couple of areas of interest. The reciever on each of these devices is made up of two parts - a tuner and a demodulator. When people usually inquiry about a "tuner", what they really are inquiring about is a receiver (i.e. the sum of the necessary parts). Even having good components on board can be overcome by poor circuitry design or flaws in pcbs etc. Interference from other equipment in your system can also factor into the equation. So can nearby baby monitiors, cordless phones etc etc....Then you have to consider the low level software for the cards - drivers and firmware for the components. These can have a measure of impact on your ability to tune. Getting to a slightly higher level, reception may also be impacted by the viewing app software you use (although this shouldn't be much of a concern).

So do you still want a generalized assessment? Okay here's one: As time goes on, there will be general improvements in the quality of components produced and put out on the market. The 2 cards here, held in comparison, are not likely going to make or break or outshine one another in any appreciatable manner in respect to tuning/reception. It is far more likely that anyone of the number of things I mentioned just above would factor into your obtained level of reception performance then as to any differences attributed strictly to either piece of hardware itself.

offtopic: How QAM tuning can help with encrypted HD cable content anyway? The same for Dish.All RF transmission systems use a form of modulation to convey the underlying signal that is placed on the RF carrier wave. OTA in north america, for example, uses 8-vsb modulation. Digital cable predominantly uses a QAM flavour (QAM256 in particular). Satellite systems, and there are several, in turn also use different modulation schemes (Dish uses both QPSK and 8PSK, for SD and HD content respectively (or at least I think I got that respectively right -- can't remember offhand-- not important though, as you get the point). Anyway, to answer your questions, whether the underlying signal is encrypted or not is irrelevant to the modulation scheme. Decrypting the underlying streams is the job of conditional access systems -- which the currently available devices do not have the capability of performing - hence the reason why those devices that are capable of handling the demodulation of QAM sources are only capable of handling unencryped streams.
As for dish -- wrong type of modulation schem for these devices to begin with (you'd need a DVB-S type device instead).

[mikek753]

CityK,
thanks a lot for the answer.

I will not use analog OTA, just HD/DTV.
I'm looking for HDTV OTA reception only.

I'm not sure what software I'll use.
But, I'll not use MCE or ATI MMC.
Most likely free hdtv PVR s/w.

Yes, I read a lot about how good ATI 650 for analog TV, but I don't need that. As result I don't need h/w encoder - do I?

I have outdoor RadioShack 45 antenna on my patio with RS In-Line Signal Amplifier, not the best location, but works to get all HD (Fox, NBC, ABC, UPN, WB, etc) stations in my area with about 80% signal Q. based on my Sceptre 42" LCD.
So, I want to have PVR that can get those stations with the same or better quality (less signal / frames drops).

The PVR has to able to wake up PC for recording and after put it back to sleep.
Also that PVR can record a show when I use PC for my other use.
I have system sata hdd and two extra in RAID 0 as DATA volume.
CPU will be P4-D 940 (dual core) - yeah it isn't Core 2 Duo :cool:
but should do the work - IMHO.
With 2 GB RAM.
As video card I plan to get x1950 PRO (ex x1900GT).

Wake up my PC from remote is important for me as I'm already tired go to PC to press power button every time I want to watch any DVD or mpeg4.

5.1 DD audio is very important too - I think that DD is part of stream and is stored inside of TS file - isn't it?

Thank you every one for answers :)

[CityK]

hi mike,
thanks a lot for the answer. :)

I will not use analog OTA, just HD/DTV.
I'm looking for HDTV OTA reception only.
..
Yes, I read a lot about how good ATI 650 for analog TV, but I don't need that. As result I don't need h/w encoder - do I?Correct.

I'm not sure what software I'll use.
But, I'll not use MCE or ATI MMC.
Most likely free hdtv PVR s/w.
...
The PVR has to able to wake up PC for recording and after put it back to sleep....

So, I want to have PVR that can get those stations with the same or better quality (less signal / frames drops).
...
Wake up my PC from remote is important for me as I'm already tired go to PC to press power button every time I want to watch any DVD or mpeg4.
Have a look into gb-pvr, gotallmedia and WatchHDTV ... one of them might suit your needs (I don't know for sure, just mentioning some free alternatives that might meet your requirements). Others could provide some other ideas too (medieeo? or something like that I belive is free too).

I have outdoor RadioShack 45 antenna on my patio with RS In-Line Signal Amplifier, not the best location, but works to get all HD (Fox, NBC, ABC, UPN, WB, etc) stations in my area with about 80% signal Q. based on my Sceptre 42" LCD.Just as a note, bear in mind that reception figures from one device are not directly comparable to those generated by another ... theres a lot of leeway in the manner in algorithms can be programmed to arrive at these figures ... and different devices certainly do it differently

Also that PVR can record a show when I use PC for my other use.
I have system sata hdd and two extra in RAID 0 as DATA volume.
CPU will be P4-D 940 (dual core) - yeah it isn't Core 2 Duo :cool:
but should do the work - IMHO.
With 2 GB RAM.
As video card I plan to get x1950 PRO (ex x1900GT).
It will work no problem whatsoever. Actually that is huge over kill for that aspect - because of the nature of digital signal delivery, "recording" a stream is not in anyway taxing to today's systems. Capturing is a bit of a misnomer for digital. Capturing really refers to the input of an analog source and the inherent digitization step required to save the signal as a bitstream on disk. With analog, you go from a RF signal to a cvsb signal and then to a bitstream which can be saved to a desired file format (i.e you have to encode the RAW bitstream to a compression format). With digital tv sources, you go from RF straight to a bitstream that is already organized in a storage format (typically mpeg2) -- all you have to do is save the bitstream to disk - no digitization or encoding is required.

I should also note that OTA bitstreams, because of their inherent compression for delievery, are ~19.4Mbps (i.e. not even 3MBps)...so a RAID0 setup is wwwwwwaayyyy beyond necessary...not to mention dangerous for data safety ... nor really bring much in the way of performance to desktop computing usage.....I know, I know, everyone thinks they're a heavy multitasking, kung-fu whacking, disc drive jacking mastah. But believe me, the performance is not what everyone is lead to believe (or wants to hear for that matter). But hey, what do I know ;) I'll leave it to you to reserch that independently and come to your own conclusions....but if you want to skip to the chase, RAID0 only holds benefit for a select few applications (servers, and streaming situations requiring high high STR). Enough pontification on my part though .... actually, I've been sick at home today, and I've done nothing but pontificate on the net today! :D I think I've got motion sickness from being online too long :p

5.1 DD audio is very important too - I think that DD is part of stream and is stored inside of TS file - isn't it?Correct

[TPeterson]

Mike, if turning on/off the PC even from S5 is a requirement then I think that the Fusion5 RT is a good choice for you. I don't know if the ATI has that feature or not, but I do know that the RT can do that very well--even if your mobo doesn't support PME, because it has an optional method to wire directly to the PSU control line.

[CityK]

Terry's point about mobo support for the waking the system up support is a good one.

[Inundated]

Copied from a comparison thread, if only to elicit responses from Fusion5 owners who've seen this problem. My F5USB has bitten the dust, the second to do so in the past year. I was planning on taking this with me this weekend, and now, I can't. I am NOT a happy camper right now, and if anyone asked me to recommend this piece of junk, I would not.

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The thing must be built using string and tape.

For the SECOND time since I first bought it, this replacement unit (which I've had for a few months) has died. Completely. It will not accept power reliably from either my desktop or my laptop, and most of the time it won't even light up. It has been giving anything from "USB Device Not Recognized" errors to "USB 1.1" messages on both machines, which have been running the unit using installed DViCO software for months on end.

The same thing happened to the first unit I bought, and I sent it back and got it replaced. This one now has an RMA number attached to it, and I have to go through the same crap again.

I feel like I can't unscrew the antenna on this thing (the Fusion unit, that is) without disrupting what sounds like very flimsy construction on the board inside the box.

[Wanax]

Well,

It seems to work under the FusionHDTV program. I'm not sure if its using software or hardware rendering though. I would really like it to work right under MCE though. I wonder if this is an issue under Vista.


I think I may have found out what was causing the 1080i stuttering issues in MCE. From a MS chat log:

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"http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/chats/transcripts/05_0616_ez_mce.mspx"

Q: Is there any way to get frame rate information to help me diagnose HDTV 1080i stutter playback problem?
A: Not built into MCE, unfortunately. But if you're using the NVIDIA MPEG-2 decoder, it has an undocumented registry setting which adds an extra "Statistics" page to the NVIDIA decoder properties, which displays the number of frame drops (among other statistics). I don't have that setting at hand right now, so if you're indeed using the NVIDIA decoder, please ask in the newsgroup about the registry setting.
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This just plain sucks and it's unlikely there will be a fix for it by MS. I'm guessing 1080i support is a "feature" under Vista. Unfortunately, DVICO has not released FusionHDTV 5 RT Lite Vista drivers yet so I can't test it out with the RC2 release.

[NV5655]

Question on the USB Fusion5Gold...

Is there any performance drop with this smaller device compared to the slightly larger desktop version? I really wish this thing had Slingbox capability so I could watch it at work during slow hours :)..

But I'm thinking of getting the USB one so I can transfer it back and forth from home to the Jersey Shore.

Or, should I wait because there may be something better coming out down the line that may support cable card/HDMI features?

Thanks.

[Zappcatt]

There will always be something better coming out "real soon now".
Cablecard is not going to be a card only solution for quite awhile.

The first versions(and only ones tested so far) are going to have to be complete PC's with limited capabilities. The Cablelabs will only certify complete machines, taking some of the authentication from among different parts of the machine...

[ecoli-557]

Hello All-
While fairly good with normal PCs, I am a newbie at HTPCs......
I have searched and also read the entire post on FusionHDTV5 thread in hopes to find an answer to my question.
I have a FusionHDTV5 RT Gold and I can not seem to get the local HD signals over the Grande Cable system here in Waco, Texas. I have verified that the signals are 'clear' by using my Sony Plasma to scan for them - it receives them just fine and I wrote down the QAM channels and subs.
When the Fusion card scans for channels, the analog comes in just fine. I can not see any local HD over this card. When I presented this to DVICO, they suggested I use a beta version 3.50_1013. When I unloaded the older version and loaded this one, I do get more 'clear' channels listed even though the channels are not the same, but they are all black except for one 'barker' channel.
All channels are at least 92% although it is noteworthy that the only channel seen (barker) is at 100% (?).
I am running XP Pro with SP2, Pentium 3.4 GHz (dual), 2 GB ram, all digital media goes on a 1 TB RAID 5 system (SATA), ATI Radeon X1600 dual display. I don't think the system is incapable of doing this. The only large app I will use will be Media Player.
There have been several refrences to either cutting down the signal due to overloading the front-end or using an amp to increas it - so I am confused on what to do.
Any suggestions would be helpful.

[TPeterson]

The Fusion sw typically reports usable cable QAM signals to be "100%", so low 90s is not a good sign. One clue is to look at the analog stations--are they crystal clear or snowing/noisy? If they don't look very good you have a weak signal.

If there are any splitters in the line between your cable drop and the Fusion card, try removing them all to see what results. If the analog stations look clear and/or there are no splitters then you could try putting in an attenuator (or a couple of 4x or higher splitters) but I suspect that you need a higher signal level, based on the fact that one station is "100%".

[ecoli-557]

Thanks for the reply. The analog channels look surprising good to me - not snowy or any interferance. There is just one splitter (2 way) between the card and the cable. I will barrel them removing the splitter.
The signal strength seems to be fine for the SA set top box that I am currently using for the DVR and my Sony had no trouble picking up 317 channels so my assumption was it was fine for the Fusion card. I know I know I know I assumed <grin>.
If the straight feed to the card does not produce results, then what? The attenuators? Does anyone know for sure? On one station, the signal strength bar was colored green (78%), on the rest of them it was blue (>92%) does this have any significance?

[ecoli-557]

Here is an update:
I removed the 2-way splitter and did a re-scan. I now can see 1 local HD channel!
I have the cable-guy coming out tommorrow to see if he can get me some more signal - so we will wait and see what tommorrow brings.......

[ecoli-557]

Another update from DVICO:
Hi.
It is possible compare with sonyTV.
We think you'd better use RF amplifier to make sure.
you may ignore the QAM signal strength at this moment.
Thanks.

So I suppose all roadds lead to more gain needed, the cable is supposed to come out this afternoon, after he is done, I will post the results.

[Sam7]

i have the fusionhdtv gold usb version..
which of the 3 decoders do i use and do i use VMR Renderer?

this is pretty much aimed at my laptop and i need assistance on the 1080i settings and whatever else you can help me out in

dell e1505
t2500 core duo @ 2 ghz
2gb ddr2-533
100 gb 7200rpm sata
256 mb ati x1400

[ecoli-557]

OK-
The cable guys came and they installed an amp, now I receive +2 dB at the Fusion card.
I did another scan, received the same list as before, all but 2 show up black. Also, when I select them from the main list (accessed from the CATV icon) those station which are 'black' are removed from my list - I don't know why......
Analog stations are fine. The cable guys even gave me the frequency list so I could better troubleshoot! Although, I don't see howit may help........
Anuone with some other ideas? It is frustrating to have a machine to soar with eagles and it is stuck here in the mud............

[TPeterson]

First of all, go back to the 3.41 sw if you haven't done so already. As I posted in the sw thread, 3.50 beta1 and 2 are no good for QAM. Using the 3.41 sw you will only see clear QAM stations listed in the channel menu and they'll stay put. They may still be black if they're actually audio channels, however. But you should be able to cross check with your DTV. (I think you said that you have a QAM-tuner DTV, right?)

[ecoli-557]

Thanks, I will try that. I will go back to 3.41 version. I do have a QAM compliant tuner in the Sony, and it freely shows all the local HD channels.
You think having +2 dB coming in the Fusion will do the trick?
I read somewhere in another post that the Fusion software had difficulty in the QAM sub-channels. Most if not all of my local channels are on .2 of some channel.
Additionaly, the channels my Sony reports such as 129.2 for the local FOX station do not appear on the scanned list from Fusion. The highest channel is 124 and is indicated by D1240.
I will remove the software and re-test tonight.
Thanks again.

[TPeterson]

I didn't see that your QAM channels are above 124 before. That's the problem! FusionHDTV currently scans only to 124. To tune higher channels, you need to use the TS0-1 (n.b., that's a zero) Registry hack, which you'll find described in detail in the Fusion software threads by searching the HTPC Forum for "TS0-1".

[ecoli-557]

Thanks, I will try that as well as soon as I get Fusion to behave on the machine. I unloaded it via remove programs, etc. Then went to install 3.41, now it seems to hang after the expanding the cab file part. I also have a taskbar tab titled Countyreg and it does not seem to be tied to a task.
It looks as if there is a partial load of 3.41 - when I try to remove that, Windows gives an error that seems to be tied to the internet somehow. Strange, I have not seen that on ever!
Yes, all of the local HD channels are on 124.2, 127.2, 127.3, 129.1, and 129.2. Even the local Baylor PBS station is on 133.1. We are luck in that ALL of the local stations are in HD...... now if they broadcast in HD all the time..........
Thanks for the tip, I will need to first wrerstle this gorilla. To remove the Fusion last time, I had to go through the registry and manually remove all DVICO and Fusion refrences from the hive......... don't you just love windows???

[TPeterson]

It's easy to remove and reinstall the Fusion software if you follow KAXKID's procedure (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7600356&&#post7600356).

[ecoli-557]

TPeterson, that works much better.
On your recommendation to use 3.41, should I use 3.41 or use the beta that DVICO suggested. THEN use the registry 'hack' to get the local HD channels?
Regards.

[ecoli-557]

I didn't see that your QAM channels are above 124 before. That's the problem! FusionHDTV currently scans only to 124. To tune higher channels, you need to use the TS0-1 (n.b., that's a zero) Registry hack, which you'll find described in detail in the Fusion software threads by searching the HTPC Forum for "TS0-1".

OK I now have 3.41 installed, same as before, no tuning above 123......
In reading a different thread, there are refrences to TSBrowser2, from the DVICO site, well, I have been all over the site (pretty sure anyway) but I can not find the TSBrowser2 which seems to be used in the TS0-1 registry hack.
Can you point me to its location?

[ecoli-557]

Originally Posted by TPeterson
I didn't see that your QAM channels are above 124 before. That's the problem! FusionHDTV currently scans only to 124. To tune higher channels, you need to use the TS0-1 (n.b., that's a zero) Registry hack, which you'll find described in detail in the Fusion software threads by searching the HTPC Forum for "TS0-1".

TPeterson, I have a fair amount of success!
I have 4 out of 6 local HD channels working well on the FusionHDTV5 RT Gold PCI tuner.
I am using 3.41 per your suggestion.
I have hacked the TS0-1 reg entry per thread: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8200574&&#post8200574
Using the Cable Channel Frequencies found at : http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/directshow/htm/ntscunitedstates.asp

My last (?) problem is 2 of the channels are on 129.1 and 129.2 I have the following reg entry to re-map the frequency: 102 (the channel) to REG_DWORD 3111cc50 (823250000)
HOWEVER it duplicates an earliere entry of 101 as illustrated: 101 (the channel) to REG_DWORD 305ab150 (811250000). The nomenclature within the () are for illustration as is the refrence to "to" in front of the REG_DWORD.

The reg entries for channel 101 and 102 are different, however, when a scan is performed, the same channel tuning information as displayed by the tuner, comes up twice - once for 101 and the other for 102....

I do not seem to be able to find this. I realize I am new to this, but this either must be real unique or really stupid - I would prefer the latter <grin>.

TPeterson, any suggestions??????

[TPeterson]

If the scan finds the same thing for "101" and "102" you must have entered the same frequency for both (and one is wrong). Recheck your typing.

BTW, you evidently already found this out but for other readers: You don't need to use TSBrowser2 at all for the TS0-1 hack. It's only needed to discover the correct channels above 124 if you don't have some other method, such as a QAM-tuner DTV to find them. And it's not very convenient for that, since it won't scan above 124 either (but will allow you to tune any channel up there directly).

[RussT]

First of all, go back to the 3.41 sw if you haven't done so already. As I posted in the sw thread, 3.50 beta1 and 2 are no good for QAM.
Terry,
I got a message from Dvico the other day that they are going to release a final 3.5 soon if they don't find "major" problems. Doesn't QAM not functioning correctly qualify as a major problem?

[ecoli-557]

If the scan finds the same thing for "101" and "102" you must have entered the same frequency for both (and one is wrong). Recheck your typing.

BTW, you evidently already found this out but for other readers: You don't need to use TSBrowser2 at all for the TS0-1 hack. It's only needed to discover the correct channels above 124 if you don't have some other method, such as a QAM-tuner DTV to find them. And it's not very convenient for that, since it won't scan above 124 either (but will allow you to tune any channel up there directly).

Terry-
My typing entry was fine, all I had to do was re-scan again, terminate Fusion, and re-start the HTPC! I dunno why it did not take the first time, but it works just great!
Now I am testing the recording, then on to integrating with Media Portal!!

The bottom-line trick was to use the DVICO's remove program and not Microsoft's remove program route. Use a QAM compliant tuner to verify the channels are available and where they are. Use the registry hack to get around the 124 limitation. AND, rebooting at the correct times <grin>.

I have learned a great deal, and have a good feeling of accomplishment, thanks Terry. I can now pay some forward.......
-Steve

[TPeterson]

Terry,
I got a message from Dvico the other day that they are going to release a final 3.5 soon if they don't find "major" problems. Doesn't QAM not functioning correctly qualify as a major problem?Yes. "We" are working on it.... ;)

[RSchermer]

I need help with a problem with my Fusion5-Lite card. I can no longer get an image for any digital channels broadcasting in 480i. This started happening a couple months ago but I just ignored it assuming I must have corrupted something in the drivers and needed to re-install. Well, tonight I finally decided to fix the problem. I followed the uninstall instructions mentioned in this or another Fusion-related thread and completely removed the drivers, software and DVICO directory and after rebooting I installed the latest 3.41 drivers. The channel scan completed normally and I can now see 7 local digital channels/subchannels and I can tune in any that broadcast in 720p or 1080i. But the 480i stations are still corrupted and all I see are green and black scanlines that vaguely resemble the image I should see. The sound on these channels tune in fine. It's interesting because I can see the proper image for about 1/10 sec whenever I change channels and also just by flipping between the FusionHDTV app and any other app such as my web-browser. Anyone else experience this issue before?

Oh, I should mention that I am using cable and my provider is Charter cable in West Michigan.

Update: Even more weird is that I just started playing with the PIP functionality and I can tune in the 480i channels as long as they are in the small PIP window. Right now I have a local weather channel tuned as both the main window and the PIP window and in the main window I see long green & black moving stripes but in the small one I see the weather channel exactly as it should look.

[TPeterson]

RSchermer--

Have you tried re-installing your video card's driver?

[RSchermer]

Have you tried re-installing your video card's driver?

Um, No. I thought about it but didn't actually do it. :D I suppose I will have to though. Just seems strange that FusionHDTV software would show everything else correctly. I'm presently downloading the latest ATI drivers and will report back the results once completed.

[RSchermer]

Well, it appears that the video drivers were the culprit. I forgot that I had updated them back in late August and I'll blame it on ATI and the new requirement of needing Microsoft .Net 2.0. This package caused a couple other problems too. Anyways, FusionHDTV is working normally again. Thank you TPeterson for the suggestion.

[emiburke]

I have the Fusion 5 USB, and the local PBS HD channel is not coming in via the automatic scan (as discussed in the local SF Bay Area Comcast forum). My TV's QAM tuner tells me KQED-HD is at 111.4, with the local KGO channels at 111.1, 111.2, 111.3 (these three are picked up by the Fusion scan, but not 111.4).

Is there a way to manually tune/add this? I can't see a way to do this.

[TPeterson]

Which sw are you using? I know that the 3.45/3.5beta versions have the KQED/Comcast problem, but I've not yet tried 3.41, which may work. If that doesn't work you're probably out of luck, along with RBurks, until KQED and Comcast come up with a proper way to handle the KQED multicasts' PSIP.

[emiburke]

Which sw are you using? I know that the 3.45/3.5beta versions have the KQED/Comcast problem, but I've not yet tried 3.41, which may work. If that doesn't work you're probably out of luck, along with RBurks, until KQED and Comcast come up with a proper way to handle the KQED multicasts' PSIP.

3.41 most of the time - when I want to be stable, so yes 3.41 does not find KQED-HD either.

[moyekj]

I always wondered exactly what was the cause for my Fusion 5 USB losing all channels and me having to re-scan to re-obtain them. I'm on 3.41 and now I see one way to consistently lose all scanned channels. Simply start the Fusion software without Fusion device attached to the USB port and it wipes out all the scanned channels every time.

I'm using Record_This & Windows scheduler for automatic hands-free scheduling. I leave the Fusion unplugged most of the time and on occasion there is a scheduled recording for which I forget (or not there in time) to plug the Fusion back in - that starts the Fusion software and bang - there goes all my channels. Have to re-scan to get them back.

There are also still occasions when after plugging F5USB back in and starting Fusion software I get BSOD, so the only reliable way of assuring a scheduled recording will go through is to power up the laptop before scheduled recording time & fire up the Fusion software to make sure there is no BSOD. Then I just leave the laptop on for scheduler to kick in and do it's thing.

Other than having to babysit due to BSOD and the occasional need to re-scan, 3.41 has been about as stable as I have ever seen Fusion software (which admittedly is not saying much). It's likely if I had a computer with the F5USB on all the time it would be more stable.

[TPeterson]

Kevin, have you tried saving the Dvico Registry branch that has all the channel info in it and then "importing" that when you have the loss of channel info? That might save you the rescanning. IIRC, the branch is HKCU\software\dvico\Zuluhdtv\data.

[ueckerj]

Im thinking about buying a fusionHDTV card. Can I se my MCE remote (or harmony) to control it? will I still need to IR dongle connected to the Fusion?

[TPeterson]

ueckerj--

Yes (at least to Harmony) and yes.

[moyekj]

Kevin, have you tried saving the Dvico Registry branch that has all the channel info in it and then "importing" that when you have the loss of channel info? That might save you the rescanning. IIRC, the branch is HKCU\software\dvico\Zuluhdtv\data. No, haven't ever tried that and it's a good suggestion, thanks. I try to use as little of the software as possible these days to avoid problems. Don't use it for live viewing or playback of recordings - simply use it for scheduled recordings and that's it. I learned to not use favorites list a while back to prevent segmentation violations and haven't seen a seg fault since. My main HDTV toy these days is the Tivo Series 3 so the Fusion is relegated strictly to recording some HD shows I like to archive. So glad to have Record_This to make that easy.

[Inundated]

Well, I got my replacement F5USB back. It works fine.

The thing I noticed immediately is that the internals don't seem to move back and forth when I screw on the antenna connector. A theory I have is that screwing/unscrewing/etc. the connector eventually loosens the board inside, which may have caused the problem I had. Or not, it could just be junk. :D

I'm going to get some sort of adapter or cable so the antenna connection is not removed at the F5USB itself.

[jimwhite]

I equip all of my coax cable-ends with one of those RadioShack push-on adapters.... they hold quite tight and save on all the twisting :D

[<><]

Hi, im interested in the lite version, but i have a few questions as im new to this tv tuner stuff:

1. This only has 1 input for OTA HD, what do I do about my dish network satellite box? Where do i connect that? Would I need 2 tuner cards?

2. Would I be able to record both OTA HD singals and channels from my satellite box?

3. If both can be integrated, how would I know if im watchinig the OTA HD local channel or the Satellite local channel?

4. What software (if any) is needed to view the channels? (i've read about beyondTV)

bascially I want to receive OTA Local HD channels (sinces its free :)) and then use my satellite box for all other channels....
I am subscribed for local channels thru my satellite provider...do they broadcast the locals in HD? If they do, then i have no need for an antenna and i can just plug in the box into the tuner?

I have Dish Network and located in Atlanta, GA

Edit: i looked online at the dish network local channels guide, and in my area i get 4 HD Local Channels when i subscribe to their local channel plan:


Station Local Channel Number Dish Channel Number
ATLANTA ABC-WSB 2 8300
ATLANTA ABC-WSB HD 2 6365
ATLANTA CBS-WGCL 46 8301
ATLANTA CBS-WGCL HD 46 6366
ATLANTA CW-WUPA 69 8305
ATLANTA FOX-WAGA 5 8303
ATLANTA FOX-WAGA HD 5 6368
ATLANTA IND-WATC 57 8309
ATLANTA IND-WTBS 17 8307
ATLANTA MNT-WATL 36 8304
ATLANTA NBC-WXIA 11 8302
ATLANTA NBC-WXIA HD 11 6367
ATLANTA PBS-WPBA 30 8310
ATLANTA PBS-WGTV 8 8306
ATLANTA UNVSN-WUVG 34 8308
Now, do i need a special receiver to get these local channels in HD? When i click on the link for the HD channels it says this "Description: This channel requires a ViP series receiver."
So what would be the best setup for me?....

Edit2:
hmm...after reading up some more, i believe i will need 2 tuners...one for OTA HD and one for my Aanalog/Digital Satellite Box...now, if that is the case, what Tuner cards do you recommend? and what software? Im still confused as to how i'll be able to distinguish if im watching the Satellite local channel or the HD local channel using software (like beyondTV) on my pc....the software will be able to see the two tuner cards right? I dunno how that works exactly... :(

as u can tell im confused....any help would be appriciated
thanks

[Wanax]

FYI - Follow up to my problem and anyone else who's had this problem.

I finally got 1080i content to run correctly (with DXVA acceleration) under MCE. There's no more stuttering problems and all OTA HDTV content works perfectly, 720 and 1080 content. This was a nvidia driver issue. The most current drivers are causing the problems and reverting back to the 81.94 drivers solved it.

Hope this helps anyone else who has come across this problem.




Just got the FUSION 5 RT Lite and there is definite stuttering problems when watching 1080i content. 720 OTA is great and uses Hardware decoding, but 1080i switches decoding to software. Some video stuttering and a lot of audio stuttering occurs.

I'm getting above 90% signal strength for the big 4 (Fox, NBC, ABC, CBS) so I've ruled that problem out. ABC and FOX are 720, so they are fine. But NBC and CBS are just unwatchable.

System:
- Athlon 3500+
- nvidia 6600GT 128mb AGP (tried 91.47 and 81.98 drivers)
- no SATA drives (so that's not an issue)
- 1 GB ram
- nvidia pure video codec
- FUSION is on IRQ 18 and shared with one of the tuners on a Hauppauge 500. But disabling the Hauppauge does not fix the problem, so I don't think its an IRQ conflict.

This seems to be a nvidia video driver issue, unless anyone else has any ideas?

[TPeterson]

Fish ( "<><" ? ) --

There are no PC-based tuners for satellite reception, AFAIK. The best that you can do is to route the satellite-service vendor's receiver output to the S-video input on your PC tuner card to be able to view it on the same display. Obviously, this presents problems for programmed capture of satellite content.

[Inundated]

I equip all of my coax cable-ends with one of those RadioShack push-on adapters.... they hold quite tight and save on all the twisting :D

I went and bought a male/male adapter and a small push-on adapter.

Unfortunately, with the long cable run from the other room into this office, it introduces just enough of a problem to cause the problem I outlined above - two of the QAM channels causing me problems.

With the inline adapter there, the problem channels (when tuned directly) go up and down signal wise. With the cable directly plugged into the Fusion, they're solid 97%-plus.

Maybe if I got one of the adapters you mentioned, and not introduce a second cable into it?

[TPeterson]

Inundated--

Sounds like a flakey adapter or cable connection to me. Are you sure that you have it seated fully?

[obeewaan]

Hi guys,
I have a PCI Fusion 5 Gold RT card.

Any one able to use harmony remote to work the card?

I like to hear if you have success with either harmony or other brand remotes.

thanks

[TPeterson]

Yes, I use a Harmony 659 with FusionHDTV 5 RT. IIRC, the codes were already in Logitech's database so that I didn't even have to teach them to the remote.

[Ufly]

When trying to watch ota hd using my fusion 5 rt lite the fusion control screen as well as the video displayed are almost completly black. I can see some images in the video on occation in very light red. The control panel has some red buttons visible too. For the most part both screens are black. Sound works just fine. Reception is great on my sceptre ota hd tuner. Any suggestions? Tried reformating my hd , versions of fusion 4.31 , 3.3. Most up to date driver is installed for the video card too.

XP pro All updates
Beyond TV 4.4
P4 2.4 ghz 533 mhz fsb
512 rdram 1066 mhz
7600 geforce 256 gs AGP 8x
120 gig drive IDE
250 gig drive IDE
Montego ddl audio
Fusion 5 rt lite

Mike (ufly)

sceptre 42 " 1920 x 1080 DVI TO HDMI cable

[TPeterson]

Try going into the nvidia control panel and reset the overlay controls to default while the Fusion app is running. That should give a better picture in the overlay and you can then make minor adjustments to suit your taste. Also, you can select one of the other skins for the control panel to get lighter colors. (I prefer the "summer" theme)

[Ufly]

Thanks TPeterson

Problem was solved by hooking up a vga CRT monitor. On the CRT the video image was viewable but the colors were very far off. After adjusting the colors using nvidia we were able to switch the monitor back to my sceptre. You are correct the Summer theme is much easier to read.

It's working but the video isn't as smooth as the built in tuner in my lcd tv.

Thanks again, mike

[TPeterson]

Have you tried both the DxVA and software rendering modes of video output in FusionHDTV? You should be able to get smooth play with at least one on your PC as listed.

[uriah]

Recently windoze xp crashed and trashed my HDs. I have formated hard drives and reinstalled XP and standard programs such as Norton System works and Zone Alarm. My boot drive is a WD 200 gig eida 7200 rpm drive with a (new) secondary SATA 2 WD 500 gig enterprise Hard drive. The SATA controller is ASUS (promise) not Silicon Image. Note I disabled Norton, Zone alarm, and spy ware programs and internet connection before install)

I have installed fusion 3.41 several times and deleted it several times. I continue to get the error message when doing channel scan of "connecting audio capture to audio render filter failed" and also no analog channels are detected.

Prior to crash and reinstall neither of these problems occurred.

anyone have suggestions?

Asus k8 se deluxe (754 Pin cpu) MB
athalon 64 3000+ cpu
1gig kingston ran
WD 200 g and Wd sata2 500gig hd
Dvico 5 gold rd card
Sb 2zs pro sound card
gforce 6200 video card

[Tyrod]

Is the Divco the very last driver you've tried to install? I assume you've updated all your other drivers. If so, you might want to try an earlier audio card driver. Or maybe a windows qualified driver, if available. Ya know, try to find the exact software versions you were using before. Leave off all the superfluous programs until you get the card running right and that may help narrow down the offending code.

Of course, that assumes you don't actually have a hardware issue. Something had to make the computer crash in the first place. I know, I know, windows isn't the most stable OS in the world, but you can't always assume that a random windows crash is the cause of your problems. You might actually have another issue that caused the crash.

As an aside, a couple of years ago when a person could actually make money building computers. I build a few hundred computers for consumer sales. I found that in using hard drives that WD were the worst. I had alot of failures in the field. After going through all the popular brands. I finally settled on the IBM/Hitachi deskstar series. I've only had 1 IBM/Hitachi HD fail in the field. Additionally, I worked for a company that made the controller chips for WD and just about all the other HD manufacturers. WD used the least sophisticated (cheapest) manufacturing process of all the HD companies. We didn't make the controller chip for the IBM/Hitachis, but we did for Maxtor which would be my second choice.

[landofmu]

Just notices Dvico has posted the 3.50_1Web dirivers/app on there site !

[TPeterson]

uriah, did you try running dxdiag to see if your DirectX installation is kosher?

For info on the new 3.50 package go here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8791193&&#post8791193).

[uriah]

Audio driver is the same as I used before. I can delete some programs but other than norton system works, zone alarm, office 2k, dvd re builder pro, image burn, nero 6 and spybot there is little loaded and the protection programs are disabled when I do dvico install. The WD 200 is working fine on all other programs and I tried unplugging the wd 500.

I am in the process of downloading the 350 package now. The Dvico site is slow as a usual matter. I get between 20 and 100 (usually30) from then

Tpeterson for some reason the html link you cited does not work but going to the original post worked.

Thanks everyone for the quick reply and I will be trying your suggestions this pm.

Stan

[Gary McCoy]

Stan,

Are you running the basic version of XP or did you update to the SP2 level before loading your applications? Was this sequence different from what you did before the crash when everything was working?

Gary

[TPeterson]

Stan, I just tried the link and it worked for me. {Edit: I guess that you were referring to the link in the post that I linked...that's been fixed now, thanks}

You didn't answer my question about running dxdiag....

[gvc]

I received my Fusion USB ATSC tuner the other day . loaded the software (downloaded newer version from their website ) , hooked the unit up. the channel scan found all available channels, analog and digital on my cable system, but it wont show any guide data at all for any channels, analog or digital. How do I get it to download the guide data? I can't use MCE 2005 as it tells me there's no TV signal. ( I have an internal analog tuner but I switched the cable input to the Fusion tuner so there's no signal going into the internal tuner ).
So,, I can watch TV but can't advance record anything. Is there separate guide data software I have to download to be able to use for advanced recording?

[TPeterson]

The EPG data are contained (or not) within the transmitted stream from the broadcasters. There is no EPG for NTSC channels (except in rare cases where the broadcaster inserts it in the ATSC stream for a sister NTSC station). If FusionHDTV does not show EPG data for a station that means that there are none. This is frequently the case with clear QAM but nowadays infreqent for OTA ATSC stations, since it's an FCC requirement.

[gvc]

The EPG data are contained (or not) within the transmitted stream from the broadcasters. There is no EPG for NTSC channels....

Excuse my ignorance , I'm a bit of a newb, but if there is no EPG data for NTSC channels, how did MCE receive the download from my cable system when I originally first set up the TV settings within MCE using the internal tuner that came with the PC? So, it has to be transmitted..I am using the same cable input , just a different tuner.

[DPlettner]

Excuse my ignorance , I'm a bit of a newb, but if there is no EPG data for NTSC channels, how did MCE receive the download from my cable system when I originally first set up the TV settings within MCE using the internal tuner that came with the PC? So, it has to be transmitted..I am using the same cable input , just a different tuner.

MCE includes a free service that downloads listings from the Internet. I think that the free guide is one of the coolest features of MCE, since it does a nice job of integrating your cable NTSC and OTA ATSC listings in a single guide.

-Dave

[TPeterson]

MCE is a different story--it seems to have some "out of band" source for EPG data. {Edit after reading Dave's post: Evidently, MCE's source isn't even from the tuner--that's pretty far "out of band" :D} I'm talking about FusionHDTV (and other ATSC/QAM software) that use the FCC-mandated EPG info inside ATSC broadcasts. To debug MCE, I suggest that you ask your question in an MCE thread.

[uriah]

Stan,

Are you running the basic version of XP or did you update to the SP2 level before loading your applications? Was this sequence different from what you did before the crash when everything was working?

Gary

I installed xp pro then a mass of updates I had on dvds while staying off line one of these was sp2 I then installed my basic protection programs-Norton system works premiere --zone alarm pro--spybot-- adaware. I then went on line and updated the protection programs and then installed all available xp patches I had not already done. I then installed drivers for video card, sound card etc. Then the dvico software. I am sure processes were different as I had about 350 gigs of data and programs on my 3 hard drives prior to crash.

I now have an extremely low level format program and plan to do a total low level format on a segate 200 gig eide drive and just re install from scratch. I will just install the dvico software before doing any thing but updating win xp pro.

My motherboard will not boot from the 500 gig Sata 2 drive so I will use the segate as c drive. Lots of fun (damm sure will have complete backup next time) Have the old computer running on win 2k and researching networking.

Stan

[uriah]

Stan, I just tried the link and it worked for me. {Edit: I guess that you were referring to the link in the post that I linked...that's been fixed now, thanks}

You didn't answer my question about running dxdiag....

have not yet run dxdiag but will before I take the radical action contemplated in my last post. I had downloaded the latest the latest direct x from ms prior to installing dvico software but it might not have installed properly. I still suspect that this weekend I will be formatting and feeding cds and dvds into this old machine.

Stan

[KAXKID]

... then installed all available xp patches ...
i think it has been discussed before, but you don't want the ms updates for the fusion drivers. stick with the fusion app and drivers installed with that version for each version you use.

[uriah]

i think it has been discussed before, but you don't want the ms updates for the fusion drivers. stick with the fusion app and drivers installed with that version for each version you use.

Assuming ( I don't know) I did install the MS drivers is there any way to find and delete them?

Stan

[TPeterson]

Yes, reinstall the DViCo app using the KAXKID procedure (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7600356&&#post7600356) and that will delete the MS-supplied stuff. (BTW, I'd be very wary of installing any of the hardware class drivers directly from the MS Update site, as it doesn't seem to really know "what's best" in most cases)

[nottheface]

I have the Dvico Fusion5 RT Gold Tuner.

I am having a unbearable high pitch noise when recording shows, are any others having this problem? The noise is not present at the time of recording, it's when I go back to watch the recorded show that I hear the sound. The sound is unbearable so therefore I am unable to record anything.

I didn't have this problem when recording with a Hauppagge tuner on this same system. Any help would be appreciated.

[TPeterson]

I assume that you're talking about NTSC recordings. If that's right, you evidently have the Windows volume controls set incorrectly.

[nottheface]

TPeterson could you clarify what you mean by your comment. I am using an X-Fi XtremeMusic and do not have any audio problems otherwise. In my windows volume settings, I have the bars about midrange for all the settings.

In the recorded video file, the show's audio is present but there is an overlaying high pitch noise throughout the recording. I am connected using a coax cable. When recorindg with a HDTV antenna I don't have any audio problems.

Thanks for your help.

[TPeterson]

I meant that you seem to have an output connected to the recording input so that you've set up a ring oscillator. That's what's making the squealing noise. Try reducing all of the sliders to zero except the one for the input that you want to record.

I'm not following your comment about cable v. "HDTV antenna". Do you mean that you don't hear the problem when you record DTV instead of NTSC (analog) TV? That is to be expected, since capturing DTV TS data is fundamentally different from NTSC recordings.

[nottheface]

I tried reducing all the sliders to zero (except the wav) to zero and also tried them muted but I still get the noise. I know I have the speaker plug hooked up in the right output.

Yes, I mean I don't have the problem when I am recording OTA HDTV with my silver sensor antenna.

Any other suggestions?
Thanks.

[TPeterson]

Are you looking at the "recording" sliders and not the "play" ones in the Windows volume control panel?

[nottheface]

I am looking at play settings.

Muting all the recording settings has no effect on the playback or recorded file.

[TPeterson]

Your Windows installation is corrupted if muting all the inputs doesn't mute the recorded audio in an analog recording, unless perhaps you don't have all the input selections displayed.

[uriah]

Yes, reinstall the DViCo app using the KAXKID procedure (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7600356&&#post7600356) and that will delete the MS-supplied stuff. (BTW, I'd be very wary of installing any of the hardware class drivers directly from the MS Update site, as it doesn't seem to really know "what's best" in most cases)


Did all the Kaxkid except for pulling card. Same problems except I now also get a blank screen where I last was able to get the digital stations. Will pull card and finish Kaskid and try a different slot tomorrow pm.

When I get windoze running right then I get to tackle Myth TV in Linux.

Stan

[landofmu]

Dvico has posted at ftp://ftp.dvico.com/Products/FusionHDTV/Down/ the 3.50.02
Anyone heard about changes / bug fixes on this?

[TPeterson]

Please don't cross post questions.

[uriah]

I low level formated disc reinstalled windows and basic drivers for video and audio and have tried versions 3.41 and 3.5? and on both I get the message "connecting audio capture to audio rendering failed" I am able to log on to digital channels but the analog channels will not capture. Other programs such as beyond tv seem able to capture analog. I want to get everything working in the fusion software for capture purposes. Does anyone have any suggestions?

[KAXKID]

I low level formated disc reinstalled windows and basic drivers for video and audio and have tried versions 3.41 and 3.5? and on both I get the message "connecting audio capture to audio rendering failed" I am able to log on to digital channels but the analog channels will not capture. Other programs such as beyond tv seem able to capture analog. I want to get everything working in the fusion software for capture purposes. Does anyone have any suggestions?
dvico has a faq that deals with this error here:
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Support/Default.aspx?act=RD&id=213&pg=1

[gleemer77]

I low level formated disc reinstalled windows and basic drivers for video and audio and have tried versions 3.41 and 3.5? and on both I get the message "connecting audio capture to audio rendering failed" I am able to log on to
I had the same problem and tried everything short of reinstalling windows (every Fusion version, directX, audio drivers, changing PCI slots, the ZuluIUnumber registry thing, etc). Nothing already mentioned in the forum or FAQS has worked.
Finally I got my analog back without even re-installing the software. Here's what I did:
1. Dvico install- "Uninstall Driver" (not remove software). Reboot.
2. Delete the HARDWARE zulu keys in registry. That is, find values like zulu*.sys and delete the whole key, not just the value. For example, there is a key called BT848 I think which contains a value "Driver" with data=zulu88.sys. Delete the whole BT848 folder(key). Reboot.
3. Run a registry cleaner.
4. Run Dvico install, "Install Driver"

I do NOT recommend anyone use the registry cleaner. Actually I dont recommend any of this unless you are comfortable messing with the registry.

Another thing, my SPDIF options also disappeared under Audio and this fix did not bring them back immediately. Maybe I have to re-install the software side to detect the fixed hardware side? I'll try it tonight.

[uriah]

I looked through registry as suggested---- dvico has a faq that deals with this error here:
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Sup...=RD&id=213&pg=1--- and could not find anything that looked the same. I did find dvico items but left them alone. I then retried standard removal but a few items refused to remove. Now when I get the screen repair or remove no matter which I try I get stonewalled at the following message-----useDLL failed-------any suggestions as what to try next?

[uriah]

in addition on initial boot I get the error message "access violation at address 0040428f in module fusionrc.exe read of address 00000000. then ea access violation. Also beyond tv no longer recognizes the card.

[TPeterson]

Stan--

I suggest that you try just deleting the FusionHDTV Program Files folder and then run an installation of version 3.50.01 to see how that fares.

[gleemer77]

in addition on initial boot I get the error message "access violation at address 0040428f in module fusionrc.exe read of address 00000000. then ea access violation. Also beyond tv no longer recognizes the card.

If I read your posts correctly, you said you did not delete anything from registry?

[KAXKID]

in addition on initial boot I get the error message "access violation at address 0040428f in module fusionrc.exe read of address 00000000. then ea access violation. Also beyond tv no longer recognizes the card.
yes, i had that error start after installing the first 3.50beta here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8448614&&#post8448614
i saw the number change slightly also since the first beta but it's still the same error. i was able to stop the error by going into the tray and pull up the icon for the fusion remote, then uncheck "enable autorun"(the default) then i exited the fusion remote program. now the fusion remote app does not auto load and the error is no more.

[uriah]

Stan--

I suggest that you try just deleting the FusionHDTV Program Files folder and then run an installation of version 3.50.01 to see how that fares.


I did and had the same problem.

[uriah]

If I read your posts correctly, you said you did not delete anything from registry?

after deleting everything else I could find i then deleted the fusion registry items.

Now I just want to get rid of all traces of the program and start from scratch.

I do have a backup image on another drive but would loose a lot of programs and time if I use it.

Stan

[TPeterson]

I did and had the same problem.Which problem? The Access Violation error or the Audio rendering error?

[uriah]

Which problem? The Access Violation error or the Audio rendering error?
audio rendering prior to messing with registry.
Stan

[TPeterson]

Did you post a query on DViCo's Q&A forum? I've not seen this error ever, but they likely have and if that FAQ that Steve found is out of date they'll probably have an updated recommendation.

[uriah]

Did you post a query on DViCo's Q&A forum? I've not seen this error ever, but they likely have and if that FAQ that Steve found is out of date they'll probably have an updated recommendation.


Will go there now and see if I can find anything. If not I will install the mirror immage I have of prior to doing this most recent install. :mad: I just am flat out not going to give up on something thousands are able to do.

Thanks Stan

[obeewaan]

Hi guys,
I have some issues with this card and would like to uninstall - reinstall.

It seems that the card drivers would not uninstall completely.

the manual does not describe well enough about doing so.

I also looked in this thread but did not see a detail instructions.

your help would be very appreciated.

[TPeterson]

The KAXKID Procedure (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7600356&&#post7600356) for uninstall+reinstall has always worked for me.

[uriah]

well I am back in the game again. By downloading and running the dvico uninstillation.reg program I am no longer stonewalled. I was able to re install. I am still stuck with error about audio renderer and lack of analog but can record digital. Will do some more reading and see if I can get this last major bug fixed.
Stan

[TPeterson]

I've just rec'd notice from DViCo that they've released drivers for Vista MCE RC2 (http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/eng/Download/VistaSupport.aspx). They claim that Vista with these drivers no longer needs a separate NTSC tuner. Knock yerselves out. :D

[Kamakzie]

Anyone know how to get Aux audio to work in Vista?

[obeewaan]

The KAXKID Procedure (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7600356&&#post7600356) for uninstall+reinstall has always worked for me.


Thanks for your suggestion, the procedure worked.

However, I still cannot have PC to go back to "stand by" mode after recordings.

It will wake up PC from "stand by" to record thou, but it wont put the PC back to "stand by".

And, yes I have enabled PME in the bios, and put the jumper on the card to PME side.

Hs anyone experienced this kind of problem?

[TPeterson]

Hs anyone experienced this kind of problem?If you have Power Options set to time out to S3/S4 and you have FusionHDTV agent set to exit after every recording, then the PC will go to S3/S4 unless you have some service running that prevents it from doing so (e.g., buzzsaw defragger).

[uriah]

In Dvico q&a they have 2 solutions for my problem with connecting audio capture error. The first being to reinstall which I have tried multiple times without effect.

The second involves editing the registry and is more or less explained here

http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Support/FAQInstallation.aspx?act=RD&id=213&pg=0&CATID=10&SCATID=54

I can find the first illustrated panel but I have not a clue about the zulu number and how to insert it as suggested. I am also unable to find the second illustrated panel. Would someone with knowledge of editing the registry please explain this to me. Assume (rightly) that I am ignorant and not that bright.

Thanks
Stan

[uriah]

I had put my card in multiple slots without positive effect but decided to try again and pulled an old fax modem and put the fusion in that slot. Upon reboot windows found the card and started installing the software. Now everything works. As a test I put the old fax modem in a vacant slot and it works fine and the fusion works fine so far.

Stan

[sedavis76]

I just picked up a Fusion5 and have a couple questions about the software:

1. In the configuration settings, what is the difference between "Manual" and "Direct" digital recording?

2. I have a MyHD card which I use for playback/live TV and it is set to use the soundcard for audio output (just like the Fusion). When I load the Fusion software when MyHD is already open, the Fusion software gives me a message saying there is conflict with the audio driver and then the software is essentially dead. I understand the conflict, so how do other people with two cards that are active at the same time get around this? I didn't see a way to disable audio from the Fusion card. I only want to use the Fusion for recording, so maybe there's a way to get it silently record in the background (like WatchHDTV does) without having to load the main app. Some suggestions from others with a similar setup would be appreciated.

[TPeterson]

sedavis76--

Set the FusionHDTV agent (in the tray app) for "silent on minimized" and your captures will be ok.

[fairmang]

I am planning on buying the Dvico Fusion HDTV5 RT Lite (not gold). For users with the card. Did you get the optional remote with it? If you did can you power on the computer using the remote?. When I read the comparison on DVICO's site, they say it can power it off but not on. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
PS Also does the lite version support the 64bit drivers?

Compare Table

http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/products/ATSCcompareTable.aspx

[tikyle]

I've had the Fusion 5 RT Lite for months now and its been great. Just yesterday I noticed though that it made an error. I set it up to record 3 shows on Tuesday (the 1st 2 are analog shows) and the the 3rd show was from a digital QAM channel. Well I didn't touch my PC all day (so I didn't turn off the app between shows) and it recorded all 3 shows but for the 3rd show it recorded the same channel from the 2nd show so basically the channel never changed from analog to digital. Is this a known problem? Is there a workaround?

[TPeterson]

I've had the Fusion 5 RT Lite for months now and its been great. Just yesterday I noticed though that it made an error. I set it up to record 3 shows on Tuesday (the 1st 2 are analog shows) and the the 3rd show was from a digital QAM channel. Well I didn't touch my PC all day (so I didn't turn off the app between shows) and it recorded all 3 shows but for the 3rd show it recorded the same channel from the 2nd show so basically the channel never changed from analog to digital. Is this a known problem? Is there a workaround?What version of FusionHDTV sw are you using? (BTW, I recommend that you set the Fusion Agent to "exit app" after all scheduled captures, in part so that Power Options can send the machine back to sleep after the capture)

[ixtapalapaquetl]

I've just rec'd notice from DViCo that they've released. They claim that Vista with these drivers no longer needs a separate NTSC tuner. Knock yerselves out. :DI downloaded and installed the Vista drivers and the 3.50 software. The good news is that I am getting video on all channels (HDTV and analog). The bad news is that there is no audio!!! Does anyone have any suggestions?

[EDIT: Problem solved. Downloaded AC'97 Beta Drivers from Realtek site. I am now able to see the Fusion HDTV option in Vista's Volume Mixer. Turned that up and am now "knocking myself out." Thanks much for the info!]

[obeewaan]

If you have Power Options set to time out to S3/S4 and you have FusionHDTV agent set to exit after every recording, then the PC will go to S3/S4 unless you have some service running that prevents it from doing so (e.g., buzzsaw defragger).

Tpeterson,
thank you for your help, PC is going back to standby after recordings.

If I may ask a couple of more questions.

I'd like to record programs in MPEG mode and play them back in a different program while Fusion is recording another program (Kinda trying to get around having 2 tuners I guess.)

When I tried to play back with Windows media player or Divx player, I cant fast forward for some reason.

thanks again

[TPeterson]

I suggest using TP mode recording, as the MPG files often give other players various problems and the Transport Stream format is more of a lingua franca. Even with TP, however, you may find that trick play is erratic unless you process the file with something like TStoATSC to re-insert the null packets that FusionHDTV removes by default for OTA and always for QAM.

[BK89]

I just purchased the Fuion5 PCI card and tried to set it up this weekend. The software is extremely buggy (hard lock up numerous times).

But my main question is about the remote I recieved. At the bottom it says (Tivx HD - Dvico). However, I thought it was supposed to come with the MCE remote with the MS green button. This remote is different from the one in the manual, it has a white stop button where the green button should be. Can't get the remote to work at all. Did they send me the wrong remote? Purchased from Snap Stream store.

[TPeterson]

Yes, you have the wrong remote.

If they also sent you old sw, you can download the 3.41 sw version (or the 3.50.01web) from DViCo's website to have a better experience with the application.

[BK89]

Thanks - had a feeling it was the wrong remote.

I am getting horrible reception despite living right in the middle of the Bay Area. So the HDTV function is not going to work for me. So I am thinking about returning. Is there a cheap PCI card with s-video input that someone could recommend? I don't even need a tuner because I have a DirecTv Tivo hooked up. I figure a $150 HD card is a waste if I can't use the HD - right?

[TPeterson]

In the Bay Area you need a "high gain" antenna to give the tuner a fighting chance to pick the signal out of our multipath soup. If you're using a UHF loop or rabbit ears you can forget about any DTV reception here. Try something like this antenna (http://www.hdtvprimer.com/ANTENNAS/silver.html) before you give up, but you may even need an outdoor antenna and an amplifier, such as I did, depending upon your specific location.

[BK89]

Thanks for the advice, I didn't realize you are right around the corner from me - I am in Belmont (small world)! The Fusion card I purchased came with that exact same antenna (made by Phillips). Part of the problem is I live on a lower floor of our apartment bldg and dont really have a way of mounting anything outside (just have the antenna sitting next to my desk). Dont want to run any cables since its an apartment. Is there any amplifer I could use to help the signal without mounting anything outside? Since I use a Tivo with DirecTv- I was just trying out the HD as a bonus so its not that important to me - but I have 30 days to return the card.

All I really need is a card with S-video input I guess, any options (most of the reviews of cards on Newegg under $50 all speak about poor picture quality - so I am a little nervous to buy a cheap card).

Anyone have advice for the perfect setup? DirecTv tivo -> pci tuner card -> Older Nvidia mx420 -> Dell Ultrasharp 19" (1280 x 1024).

[TPeterson]

I think that you'll want at least an MX440 or MX4000 for good HDTV rendering with the FusionHDTV--and with other software-based cards you may need even newer video gear.

An amplifier is really only good for boosting the signal at the antenna end of a long cable run and serves no real purpose if your lead-in is shorter than 50 feet or so. Did you try several locations in the room and various directions to point the antenna (which BTW receives from the small end, despite its resemblance to an airplane!)? With UHF signals, a foot or two change in location, horizontally or vertically, can make an enormous difference. (Hint: Try tuning an analog UHF station and then position the antenna to minimize ghosting)

You have the the FCC on your side regarding external antenna installation.

[Tyrod]

Thanks for the advice, I didn't realize you are right around the corner from me - I am in Belmont (small world)! The Fusion card I purchased came with that exact same antenna (made by Phillips). Part of the problem is I live on a lower floor of our apartment bldg and dont really have a way of mounting anything outside (just have the antenna sitting next to my desk). Dont want to run any cables since its an apartment. Is there any amplifer I could use to help the signal without mounting anything outside? Since I use a Tivo with DirecTv- I was just trying out the HD as a bonus so its not that important to me - but I have 30 days to return the card.

All I really need is a card with S-video input I guess, any options (most of the reviews of cards on Newegg under $50 all speak about poor picture quality - so I am a little nervous to buy a cheap card).

Anyone have advice for the perfect setup? DirecTv tivo -> pci tuner card -> Older Nvidia mx420 -> Dell Ultrasharp 19" (1280 x 1024).

Are you trying to capture video from your TIVO. If so, there are better ways. The degree of difficulty and cost depends on which series TIVO you have and whether it's a regular TIVO or DirecTivo. Send me a PM if you want to know more.

[BK89]

I tried moving it around as much as I could. Basically, it picks up about three channels with horrible stactic (unwatchable). I dont get any local channel signals at all like FOX or NBC (channels I do get are local PBS stations I think up in the 20s or 30s). I think I am pretty much screwed for reception (I get really bad FM reception as well) do to my location - live near the base of a canyon (Carlmont). I have not seen reception go above 50%.

Tyrod - I do not need to capture from the DirecTivo (zippered). Just need to be able to view it on my screen (as a window and fullscreen). Dont really need any kind of PVR software (BTV, MCE). Thats why I am thinking about getting a cheapo card (with S-video in) for $30. But a lot of reviews talk about poor picture quality. I know there is a plug-in for WinAmp that lets you view tuner card output. Is there anything else?

[TPeterson]

Do you have basic cable TV? If so, have you tried connecting the Fusion card to your cable feed and scanning? You'll find there KPIX and KTVU on rf 79, KRON on rf 111, KNTV on rf 116, and KGO and KQED on rf 117, all in HD. Also, you'll find many of the SD channels in digital form.

[BK89]

I have Satellite for TV but I also have Comcast Broadband internet. Do you think I would still get the channels without subscribing to their basic cable (just internet)? I would need to run about a 30 foot coax and a splitter to the bedroom. Comcast installer would not run a line in the apartment to my room for internet. LAME! He said modem goes wherever the existing cable line comes into the unit. Charged me $50 to screw in a coax line and plug the modem in (biggest rip off of my life)!

[mike123abc]

I have a Fusion 3 Gold with QAM. Will it play nice with a Fusion 5 if I put both in one system? I would like to get two (maybe 3) tuners in a PC. Has there been much success with this? Do I need to get all matching cards (i.e. upgrade to all Fusion 5s)?

[TPeterson]

BK89--

Practically, I don't know. Legally, no--but isn't there a bundle deal that makes the cost of basic cable pretty low?

mike123abc--

Many have systems with both F3 and F5 units installed successfully. IIRC, KAXKID has had at least 3 units in/attached to one PC.

[jetgraphics]

I was an unhappy customer of a DVICO FusionHDTV5 RT Gold.
The software is aggravating, non functioning piece of expletive deleted.

At first, couldn't get the country selection window to appear on the desktop. Then it selected Korea as default. All the program text was in Korean, which was useless to me.

I tried to upgrade with the latest drivers from DVICO site, and it still fouled up on install. Country Select shows up in Windows Task Manager. But I could not access the country select window. There's some mighty weird bug in the install code.

After the fourth remove / install iteration, the country select window showed up. But that wasn't the end of my woes. After connecting to the cable, scanning for channels, the channel increment was buggy. It would cycle through 5 channels, and not increment past. When I used the mouse in the Service window to choose a channel, it would randomly jump to a channel I had not selected.

But the deal breaker was when I tried to use it with my Video projector. DVICO would not display on my PJ (secondary monitor). When the PJ was primary, it would display. When PJ was secondary, the image would not display when dragged to the desktop. The controls displayed correctly, but the display window was black.

I verified that the PJ was not the problem by running several dvd programs (Power DVD, WinDVD, Zoomplayer) on the secondary monitor. I was able to drag the window across either monitor.

Since it was a requirement that my primary monitor was not the PJ, due to other users in the family, I returned the card for a refund.

Caveat Emptor

[TPeterson]

jetgraphics--

You don't say what version of the sw you were trying and since you've returned the card it doesn't really matter anymore, but I will say that your experience was rather unusual. What version of Windows were you using? The overlay-on-secondary-monitor problem has been addressed in the 3.50.01 software.

[BK89]

Appreciate your input, JetGraphics. I had a hell of a time this weekend trying to get the DVico software to run stable. As it is now - when I try to switch inputs, I get a hard lockup. Since I have installed the software, I am getting the exact same hard lockups in other programs now (like VLC and WMP) when trying to play back HD video. Never happend before I installed. Very suspicous - what a coincidence! On top of that - they send me the wrong remote.

[TPeterson]

It sounds as though you may have VLC and WMP set to use the DViCo codecs and further that those are not working well with your MX420 video card (which, IIRC, is not a recommended card for the Fusion sw).

[CityK]

PCIe version (http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/kor/Products/Fusion5express.aspx) coming up.

Now the real question is: does the F5 Express make it into town before Christmas or is this a toy for the new year ?

[BK89]

Thought one of you guys might have another card for analog. Just edited the post.

[uriah]

Had lots of problems reinstalling card (gold 5 rt) after crash and reformat now card receives fine and in live mode on my 22" mitsu monitor the a/v is synced but on recordings the audio markedly trails the video.

I have a sound blaster 2 zx platinum sound card and pny nvidia 6200 128k video card.

Any suggestions as to how to cure the problem?

[jetgraphics]

jetgraphics--

You don't say what version of the sw you were trying and since you've returned the card it doesn't really matter anymore, but I will say that your experience was rather unusual. What version of Windows were you using? The overlay-on-secondary-monitor problem has been addressed in the 3.50.01 software.

The card was returned in October, 2006, so the version was whatever was the most up to date at that date.
(3.50.1 release date is 11/2006)

OS: Windows XP

[jetgraphics]

As it is now - when I try to switch inputs, I get a hard lockup. Since I have installed the software, I am getting the exact same hard lockups in other programs now (like VLC and WMP) when trying to play back HD video.

I didn't notice lock ups in my machine. But I was getting so frustrated with channel selection bug that I may have rebooted before lock up occurred.

[TPeterson]

Had lots of problems reinstalling card (gold 5 rt) after crash and reformat now card receives fine and in live mode on my 22" mitsu monitor the a/v is synced but on recordings the audio markedly trails the video.

I have a sound blaster 2 zx platinum sound card and pny nvidia 6200 128k video card.

Any suggestions as to how to cure the problem?Stan, what kind of recordings are you referring to...transport streams or analog captures?

[KAXKID]

Stan, what kind of recordings are you referring to...transport streams or analog captures?
and what app are you using to playback the recordings?

[RobSuk]

My FusionHDTV Gold with VISTA 32 RTM crashes on digital channels. Analog is fine. I also can not end the process in taskmanager and have to reboot. Sometimes it works for 5 min and then crashes with a nice Windows message. Sometimes it crashes as I change channels. I'm running 3.50.01 version.

[sedavis76]

I tried to look through the thread for this, but I didn't see anything about it. Does the Fusion software allow me to record shows to their own directories? It appears that I can only have all of the recordings saved to one directory. I have a MyHD card and it can save recordings to individual directories. If the Fusion software can not do this now, in the future will the CW_EPG Fusion add-on allow for this? Having all of my shows in one directory makes it cluttered and hard to quickly find a particular show.

Also, is there a way to change the default naming convention for recordings? It seems to go xxxx.ts, xxxx (1).ts, xxxx (2).ts, etc. Is there a way to get it to automatically have Title_Date_Time.ts, or something like that.

[TPeterson]

There is no folder handling in the Fusion app, nor any filenaming templates. Currently, you can get any sort of filename that you want, including with date, time, etc., by using Record_This for scheduling. CW_EPG version 2.0 is still vaporware, so its features are unknown. ;)

[sedavis76]

Currently, you can get any sort of filename that you want, including with date, time, etc., by using Record_This for scheduling.

Is there a website I can download Record_This from? The links in the Record_This thread aren't working.

[AllenDB]

Is there a website I can download Record_This from? The links in the Record_This thread aren't working.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=591195&page=1&pp=30
works for me.

[sedavis76]

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=591195&page=1&pp=30
works for me.

I wasn't right-clicking and doing save target. I was just left-clicking on it and it would say it couldn't find the website. Now that I right-click it downloaded fine, thanks.

[uriah]

and what app are you using to playback the recordings?
(Quote=TPeterson)Stan, what kind of recordings are you referring to...transport streams or analog captures?

I have the fusion software configured to capture to digital mpeg and not transport stream

Viewing on the computer is fine with various playback software from VLC , Mplayer, Nero show time and Wintv 8. Problem is watching burned dvds on the television. I have processed mpeg with the included fusion converter, with hdtv to mpeg2 and also used ulead 9 to make dvd which results in no sound or used nero 6 to burn the mpg2 to dvd which has sound which lags behind the video.

[TPeterson]

My advice: Record in transport stream (.tp) and use HDTV2DVD to make low-res copies on DVD.

[ixtapalapaquetl]

My FusionHDTV Gold with VISTA 32 RTM crashes on digital channels. Analog is fine. I also can not end the process in taskmanager and have to reboot. Sometimes it works for 5 min and then crashes with a nice Windows message. Sometimes it crashes as I change channels. I'm running 3.50.01 version.I'm having the exact same problem with my RT Gold. Using 3.41 didn't help, nor did various different video drivers (I tried default and several nVidia Betas).

I too have noticed that it will not close immediately in Task Manager. However, it does usually end the process after maybe 10 minutes. Interestingly, my system always fails to restart properly after such a crash. It shuts down, but won't power back up unless I do so manually.

Is anyone else having this problem?

[TPeterson]

Are you installing 3.50.01 and 3.41 in WinXP compatibility mode?

[Garrett Adams]

My FusionHDTV3 also bombs out in RC2 in stand-alone mode, However it works within Media Center using the Vista BD drivers. I was hoping to utilize stand-alone mode with the RTM , or at least have it as an option.

[uriah]

My advice: Record in transport stream (.tp) and use HDTV2DVD to make low-res copies on DVD.

When you say low rez what does that translate to? My current dvd quality (720x480p) seems to be as good as or better than commercial dvds when viewed on other peoples hdtvs its just the sync thats the problem.

When I get the bugs ironed out at dvd quality I will move up to xvid or 264 as some new dvd players or my computer linked to tv can play these at hdtv resolutions.

I am giving your suggestion a try when I record Jericho tonight.

[TPeterson]

My FusionHDTV3 also bombs out in RC2 in stand-alone mode, However it works within Media Center using the Vista BD drivers. I was hoping to utilize stand-alone mode with the RTM , or at least have it as an option.My guess is that you will be able to...in XP compatibility mode. When DViCo releases a Vista-qualified app you'll then be able to run that without a special mode.

[TPeterson]

Stan--

I call throwing away 75% of the video information in the transport stream "converting to low rez." I only do it when I absolutely, positively must display something on a STB DVD player. Otherwise, in my mind, if it's worth keeping, it's worth keeping in HD rez.

[emiburke]

I'm having the exact same problem with my RT Gold. Using 3.41 didn't help, nor did various different video drivers (I tried default and several nVidia Betas).

Is anyone else having this problem?

Same crash on digital channels, using USB version and now Vista RTM.

[sengsational]

Problem is watching burned dvds on the television. I have processed mpeg with the included fusion converter, with hdtv to mpeg2 and also used ulead 9 to make dvd which results in no sound or used nero 6 to burn the mpg2 to dvd which has sound which lags behind the video.Some of those conversion processes break the audio and video into separate streams, and throw away the synch info. Have you tried HDTV2DVD?
--Dale--

[ixtapalapaquetl]

Are you installing 3.50.01 and 3.41 in WinXP compatibility mode?That was an excellent thought (and something I should have tried!). Unfortunately, it did not help. The behavior is the same after adjusting the fusionhdtv.exe properties to run in XP SP2 compatibility mode.

[emiburke]

That was an excellent thought (and something I should have tried!). Unfortunately, it did not help. The behavior is the same after adjusting the fusionhdtv.exe properties to run in XP SP2 compatibility mode.

I reported the Vista problems to Dvico via their website, and others may also want to do this. I did get a quick reply to try a few things, but did not help, hopefully they will come up with something. XP compatibility mode also did not help for me. But the Dvico person did say he was running OK (using QAM, like me) under Vista RTM, so I wonder what is going on?

[TPeterson]

I have zero experience with Windows Vista myself; however, I note that one MyHD user has succeeded in installing that sw under Vista in XP compatibility mode (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8946368&&#post8946368). Evidently, part of the secret was to run the device driver installation itself somehow in a compatibility mode. Perhaps you can follow his example with the DViCo installer.

[Mad Mac]

Just installed a FusionHDTV5 RT Lite and am delighted with the results. However, I'd like to know if there is a way to "integrate" it into MCE 2005? A scan through the forum hasn't produced any obvious answers.

[Tyrod]

Just installed a FusionHDTV5 RT Lite and am delighted with the results. However, I'd like to know if there is a way to "integrate" it into MCE 2005? A scan through the forum hasn't produced any obvious answers.

MCE won't recognize it as a primary video receiver. Supposedly, it will as a secondary. I tried it with MCE as the primary receiver and MCE didn't like that at all. After some research, I found that MCE requires a lo-def receiver as the primary. I didn't have a lo-def receiver, so scrapped that project. I have seen some aftermarket front-end windows GUIs that "look like" MCE and claim to act like MCE but with a wider selection of hardware. I haven't tried them, but they look interesting. I don't really need anything more that the XP desktop, but it does kinda limit the functionality of the remote.

[AllenDB]

I'm replacing my old Fusion 3 Gold Q card with a Fusion 5 RT Lite. I was running 3.41 on the F3GQ. It is OK to install the same 3.41 in the F5 RT Lite? Seems like it should be. Is there a later version, not beta? If the tuner on the F5 is as good as some say I'm going to replace my MYHD 130 too.

All is moot. I followed KAXKIDs procedure for uninstall when I upgraded to 3.41 and it worked. Did it again for this new but now when I try to install 3.41 it comes up and ask if I want to repair. Like something is still laying around. Tried to install from the CD with the same results. Not going anywhere right now. Any ideas on what needs to be further cleaned?

I neglected to say that if I click Repair installation fails:

UseDLL failed

[TPeterson]

Allen--

I've never found "repair" on that installer screen to be useful for any software, so I don't bother with it anymore. In this case, you want to select "remove", as the first step in The KAXKID Procedure (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7600356&&#post7600356) for reinstalling FusionHDTV. The next time you run the installer, you should then see only install options.

[TPeterson]

BTW, I suggest that you use the 3.50.01web software, as that seems to be at least as stable as the 3.41 version and to have much work done to make it more responsive.

[AllenDB]

Allen--
I've never found "repair" on that installer screen to be useful for any software, so I don't bother with it anymore. In this case, you want to select "remove", as the first step in The KAXKID Procedure (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7600356&&#post7600356) for reinstalling FusionHDTV. The next time you run the installer, you should then see only install options.
I did the KAXKID procedure first. But the repair option still comes up, no install. Just for the heck of it I clicked remove again then tried to install but still only get the repair/remove screen. Guess I'll start cleaning out the registry.

[TPeterson]

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