DVICO Fusion 5 HDTV tuner

[bigpoppa206]

...and that version would be...? I'm seeing no problems with 3.61 using the same video card (I think--my 8x AGP GF 6200 has 128 MB DRAM) and driver as you describe (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10177912&&#post10177912) but on a 2.4-GHz Celeron system with only half of your 1-GB DRAM. I wonder what's going on with your video?
Not dead sure, but I think it was more of a problem of the previous installation and one or more of the drivers did not uninstall correctly. It took me several times to finally get everything clean which is probably why I am now back up and running.

[TPeterson]

You're "not dead sure" which version you're running???

[bigpoppa206]

You're "not dead sure" which version you're running???
Guess you missed the above quote: "There is a new version (( FusionHDTV 3.61 )) posted today on the DVICO ftp site" where I replied that I tried that version the OP was talking about, 3.61.

[TPeterson]

And I guess that you missed my redlining of your statement that you'd reverted to some unspecified older version. Which one???

[jamesavery22]

If that were a "production release" code it wouldn't be on a pw-protected page, hmm??

The drivers, etc., on 3.61 are essentially unchanged from 3.60.

Yes it was a complete assumption, from no "B" or "BETA" in the filename, to say it was prod code. My fault.

I believe bigpoppa's "previous" version is 3.60.01:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10090994&&#post10090994

[TPeterson]

If he's using 3.60 successfully, then it's highly likely that his problem with 3.61 had to do with a failed installation.

[obeewaan]

Not had much luck since I added a second fusion tuner...still trying...but then maybe its just my system.

Do you have 2 PCI cards? And what hardware setup and which version of Fusion are you running?

I was hoping there is more people with 2 fusion tuners, but based on so few responses, maybe I shouldn't go that route.

[rooobosmith]

Hi guys
I am thinking of adding a Fusion HDTV5 USB Gold to my current system.

1- Will I be able to record a program and watch a different pre-recorded program simultaneously ? ( which is why I am getting a 2nd tuner :D )

(I know that fusion app has a 2 tuner setup configuration, just wondering if it works well )

2- What is a good program to use for watching .tp /.ts files, other than Fusion HDTV application ?

thanks in advance
I have the two PCI Fusion setup.

So far it does not work extremely well.

When I activate PIP, I get an error message and the PIP window is blank.

Swapping to PIP seems to tune the right channel but the channel number indicator is spurrious and the app has crashed a couple of times.

[TPeterson]

I have the two PCI Fusion setup.

So far it does not work extremely well.

When I activate PIP, I get an error message and the PIP window is blank.

Swapping to PIP seems to tune the right channel but the channel number indicator is spurrious and the app has crashed a couple of times.What OS are you running? PIP does not work in Win2k because it requires VMR7. It may also require SP2 in WinXP, I'm not sure.

[jldet5]

Do you have 2 PCI cards? And what hardware setup and which version of Fusion are you running?

I was hoping there is more people with 2 fusion tuners, but based on so few responses, maybe I shouldn't go that route.

Yes; I also tried with a Fusion USB. I've tried all the popular ones but I don't remember all the .01s but they are something like 3.30.01; 3.50.01, and the latest 3.6. Biggest problem is the second set of recordings keep crashing no matter what I trim using the RT trim utility option.

Now it could just be my aging P3 1000 board using a GA6CX mboard. dunno. But as soon as I exhaust all testings which is soon I'll be taking a 21 day BTV trial.

[bigpoppa206]

If he's using 3.60 successfully, then it's highly likely that his problem with 3.61 had to do with a failed installation.
ACK! I really need to write this stuff down when playing with all the different versions. But you are correct sir, I was previously and once again am using 3.60 successfully. It was the 3.61 version that messed up for me, which is curious because I had also just previously downloaded the FusionHDTV3.61B_Web version and it was running fine, but going from FusionHDTV3.61B_Web to FusionHDTV3.61_Web something messed up.

[TPeterson]

1-GHz P3 may be part of the problem, as that's not far above the minimum req't for a single unit, but there are issues with back-to-back recordings and multiple units anyway. I've seen good performance of foreground play with background recording, however, using a PCI and a USB unit in a 2.4-GHz (P4) Celeron.

[KAXKID]

1-GHz P3 may be part of the problem, as that's not far above the minimum req't for a single unit, but there are issues with back-to-back recordings and multiple units anyway. I've seen good performance of foreground play with background recording, however, using a PCI and a USB unit in a 2.4-GHz (P4) Celeron.
or an amd sempron 3000+.

[bigpoppa206]

Update: got everything cleaned up, tried to re-install Fusion HDTV software 3.61 again (I'm a sucker for punishment) and everything was fine...EXCEPT I once again got the gray band across the bottom of the screen only on digital 480i channels. All other digital channels with 720 or 1080 resolutions as well as the analog channels displayed fine.

Dug up a thread on another board that mentioned the same problem, the solution is simple, reinstall your video drivers which in my case was the nvidia 84.21 set. Gray band is now gone on 480i digital channels.

[Mitch1200]

I've search this thread looking for help for my symptoms, and have tried some things that others have, but I still have my problem. I'm not able to view digital channels on cable (I have no OTA capability in my hi-rise building). And analog channels have choppy sound, though the video is okay.

I'm using the following:

Fusion HDTV5 Gold RT
EVGA NForce 680i SLIL mobo
EVGA GeForce 8800 GTS
E6600 Core Duo
2 GB Corsair 800 MHz Memory (CM2X1024-6400C4D)
500 GB WD Caviar HDD
Seasonic S12 - 430 RT (SS430-HB)

XP SP2
Fusion 3.51.00
DirectX 9.0c (6.14.10.9792)

RCN Cable Boston

Now the hard part. This set up worked for a while! I found about 330 channels, tuned in digital HDTV channels perfectly, and analog channels had good sound. Then I loaded BeyondTV and .NET Framework 2.0 and everything went down the tubes--no digital channels and choppy sound on analog. At this point doing a channel search within Fusion now found only 114 channels, mostly analog. However, the digital channels it found all showed signals of 95% or better--typically 100%/34.2 dB, and 1080i AC3 19.4M were also indicated. But no picture or sound.

[I realize that BTV doesn't support QAM, but I'd intended to load Fonceur's Externinator to obtain QAM support, which is why .NET Framework is in there.]

At one point, I switched PCI slots for the Fusion board, reloaded the drivers and it worked again--good digital and analog. However this no longer solves the problem. The only way to restore functionality--uninstalling BeyondTV, and precisely following KAXKID's instructions for uninstalling and re-installing Fusion drivers and program also didn't work--was to wipe XP and start over. I did this several times with success, however even that doesn't do the trick any longer.

[Depending on the PCI slot, three (virtual) devices: (1) Fusion HDTV 880, WDM Audio Capture, (2) Fusion 88x, BDA Receiver (ATSC-A), and (3) Fusion 88x, WDM Video Capture (NTSC) all share either IRQ 17 or 18. No other devices make use of these IRQs.]

So my challenge is to determine if I have a bad Fusion board (or other component), or if I'm simply too dense to see the obvious. A search of this thread didn't turn up similar problems, but I wonder if anyone recognizes these symptoms?

Thanks for your help and apologies for the long post.

Mitch

[TPeterson]

Mitch--

Since starting over with a fresh Window installation seemed to fix things, I doubt that you have any sort of hw problem. I seems that one of the other sw packages that you're installing is messing with FusionHDTV's operation. I suspect that one of them is changing critical Registry values. I suggest two possible solutions:

1) (My preference) Don't install the bad actors. Use FusionHDTV with CW_EPG and enjoy the ride.

2) Install a Registry watchdog (e.g., Spybot's "TeaTimer") to find out what parts of the Registry are getting trashed by the other sw so that you can restore the damaged keys.

[Mitch1200]

Terry,

Thanks. I'll give the registry watchdog a try and see what's happening.

The reason that I wanted to go beyond FusionHDTV is that I can't get premium channels via QAM. However I can get my registered HBO HD and other premiums via firewire from the STB. I couldn't find a way to make use of firewire with the Fusion front end. I believe I need something like BTV or MythTV or some such.

Anyway, I'll give your suggestion a try and keep you posted on what I find.

Many thanks,

Mitch

[TPeterson]

Did you try CapDVHS for getting firewire capture to your HDD? (BTW, you may find that the STB firewire output of cable premium content is 5C protected and cannot be captured to your PC anyway, but needs to go to a 5C-compliant device, such as a DVHS tape deck)

[obeewaan]

or an amd sempron 3000+.


Are you able to watch and record simultaneously ?
Any issues with your PCI and USB setup ?

I have laptop with C2D T5200 and vista that I could use for USB tuner, but if 2 Tuner setup works well on 1 PC (My main HTPC), I'd rather do that, so I wont have to move around the recordings from laptop to HTPC.

Also, I 'd totally consider upgrade to C2D setup on my HTPC, if I know for sure more horse power would solve 2 Tuner issues.

thanks

[Mitch1200]

Indeed, I can capture my STB firewire output with CapDVHS just fine. In fact, I've easily and quickly converted the TS to MPG in videoredo and burned the HD programming onto a red laser DVD and watched it on the XBOX HD DVD player--no detectable (to my eyes) loss of video fidelity. Very impressive HD. Nice way to archive.

I get all premium HD channels I pay for, including HBO, SHO, TMC, Cinemax, etc. from either 1394 output of the STB (DCT-6412). What I don't get is 2 of 3 local network HD broadcasts--go figure! For reasons known only to RCN, those channels are 5C-flagged. That's why I'm trying to get a QAM tuner involved here.

In the end however, CapDVHS doesn't solve the EPG issue. I was hoping BTV would do that.


Mitch

[TPeterson]

In the end however, CapDVHS doesn't solve the EPG issue.No, CW_EPG does that.

[Mitch1200]

If I understand this correctly, CW_EPG will provide the guide I need to find programming to record. And I understand that it works with Fusion HDTV for my QAM recording. But will it work with a frontend that is compatible with firewire?

Thanks,

Mitch

[TPeterson]

No. I thought that you said you had a solution (CapDVHS) for the firewire recordings that don't have 5C encryption.

[Mitch1200]

Nope, that's what I'm looking for. :) A way to mix recording from QAM and firewire that makes use of an EPG.

Mitch

[TPeterson]

AFAIK, there is no way to "mix" FW and QAM recordings.

[rooobosmith]

What OS are you running? PIP does not work in Win2k because it requires VMR7. It may also require SP2 in WinXP, I'm not sure.

Thanks. I am running W2K.

If PIP is not compatible, I wonder why it is even enabled.

With v3.61 I am able to swap between PIP and main, but the channel numbers may be showing as the UHF channel instead of the VHF channel dot one.

8.1 shows as channel 30 when swapped from PIP.

The PIP channel will not display nor record.

[TPeterson]

I am running W2K.

The PIP channel will not display nor record.What part of "does not work" is unclear?

You can use the second tuner for scheduled recordings, either manual, TitanTV, or CW_EPG, but PIP requires VMR7, which Win2k doesn't have. Yes, the button should be grayed out, IMO, but I didn't write the code.

[Paw Paw]

It looks like all of the changes is Version 3.61 are for the Vista users. (Hey they need all the help they can get). Are there any other changes or patches in 3.61 that woud impact a Win2k user?

[tvspy]

It looks like all of the changes is Version 3.61 are for the Vista users. (Hey they need all the help they can get). Are there any other changes or patches in 3.61 that woud impact a Win2k user?

3.61 works very, very well in Vista. Absolute flawless.

[TPeterson]

It would be pretty ironic if "flawless" FusionHDTV performance was what drove me to adopt WinV. :D

[KAXKID]

3.61 works very, very well in Vista. Absolute flawless.
it would help others if you qualify your statement with details about what version of vista you are using and with which version of dvico tuner and any other details about your setup that might help others repeat you success.

[Bob Sorel]

Hi guys,

I have been using MyHD cards for the last few years and have been very happy with them, but I am now building a new fairly high end machine with a C2D 6700, so I think that the old hardware architecture of the MyHD cards will not work with the dual core processor (right?). As a result, I have been considering either a FusionHDTV 5 Gold or the FusionHDTV 5 Express as my next HDTV card. A few questions:

1. Which is the better card of the two?
2. Will I be making an upgrade, downgrade, or lateral move from my current MDP-130?
3. Will the Fusion cards be able to play back standard .TS files over a LAN (I had to disable hyperthreading for it to work with the MyHD cards) and with a dual core processor, and with no DRM attached?
4. I really need a better tuner than the one that comes with the MDP-130...Though it receives most of the stations just fine, one of the major networks (NBC) is in the "iffy" territory. The station comes in most of the time during the summer, but very seldom during the winter despite the fact that I use Antennas Direct's best UHF outdoor antenna and a signal amplifier. I say I need a better tuner because the OTA tuner in my Dish 211 receives the same station over the same setup about 95% of the time and is MUCH more reliable than MyHD for that station. Are the fusion tuners any better (I never figured it out from the initial posts back when Cliff was doing the testing)?

I plan on running WinXP Pro on the new machine. I don't run any front ends and I don't want to deal with DRM in any form or shape. I also capture satellite HD with 2 Nextcom R5000's in both MPEG2 and H.264 formats...another reason why I am building the new machine.

Thanks in advance for any help or advice with the Fusion cards (or any other suggestions you might make).

[TPeterson]

Bob--

First of all, MyHD will likely work the same on C2D as it does on your current (P4?) machine. The real issues are potential BIOS/chipset conflicts that are, I think, rare in the present crop of mobos. (I'm running an MDP-120 in tests on an Athlon X2 3800+/ASUS A8N-VM NBP right now, and it works OK under both Win2k and XP--absent the same features as you're used to with hyperthreading, plus some glitching in the previewing desktop overlay window)

The latest Fusion units have definitely better tuner/demodulator sets than the MDP-130 has. However, that's about the only real "step up" from MyHD, IMO, so far.

The FusionHDTV sw is still far more buggy than MyHD's latest, but it's enormously better than it was a year and a half ago, when it couldn't be trusted to make simple scheduled captures routinely. I've been using it now routinely with CW_EPG for simple (one Fusion unit and one MyHD) scheduling for several months.

The app will play the usual video files, locally or over LAN, very similarly to MyHD, but limited by your PC's video gear to, at best, near MDP quality in my experience.

FusionHDTV is notoriously difficult to install properly and you'll read many reports here of malfunctions that relate to faulty installations of one sort or another.

I can't comment on PCI v PCI-e, as I've not yet tried the latter (but expect to do so soon).

[tvspy]

it would help others if you qualify your statement with details about what version of vista you are using and with which version of dvico tuner and any other details about your setup that might help others repeat you success.

Here you go KAXKID. I've installed 3.61 on Vista Premium, Vista Business and Vista Home. (If you didn't know, you can do all this from the same Vista install disk, just don't activate the installs, and you can play for 30 days before Vista times out.) It's a great way to see how the operating system works with different software titles and drivers.

Fusion HDTV5 Gold RT PCI
Pentium 4 3GHz
EVGA GeForce 6200
Dell 2405 @ 1920:1200
Microsoft Vista default nVidia driver
(also used nVidia Version: 100.65 driver, saw no difference)
2 GB Corsair DDR2 Memory
250 GB WD Caviar HDD
Vista Premium, Business and Home: 3 separate installs
Fusion 3.61

I've disabled Vista User Account Control and Vista Aero. I've changed Power management from Balanced to High Performance. Also, I've turned on the "Enable Advanced Performance" option for my hard drive...more for VMC than anything else.

3.61 fixed the Analog scan crash that I would experinece in Vista after scanning the channels during initial setup. No more channel changing crashes now either.

My card also does quite well with Vista Media Center after a few tweaks in VMC. Apparently Vista does not support hardware acceleration yet, so the only way to get stable video in VMC is to Enable Advanced Performance" option for my hard drives and switch to the Cyberlink video decoder (leaving the Microsoft audio decoder in place), and most importantly set my resolution within VMC to 1280x768. (I know, this sucks) It also helps to disable any and all unecessary services and programs. If some background process decides to chew up some CPU, even for a short time, playback performance will be affected. More can be found on this issue at thegreenbutton.com Hopefully the new future nVidia drivers will address the hardware acceleration issues.

All in all, I'm almost ready to make the switch to Vista since my Fusion 5 Gold RT is working well.

[KAXKID]

Here you go KAXKID. I've installed 3.61 on Vista Premium, Vista Business and Vista Home. ...
that's more helpful, thanks.

[Bob Sorel]

Thanks, Terry...very helpful information! :)

I guess I just have one question left:
I've been using it now routinely with CW_EPG for simple (one Fusion unit and one MyHD) scheduling for several months.
Are you saying that you are using both cards in the same machine or are you using 2 separate machines? If I could install both cards (let's say the MDP-130 in a PCI slot and the Fusion 5 in a PCI-E X1 slot) and have them peacefully coexist in the same machine, independently controllable using CW_EPG, that would work for me...;)

Thanks again!

[jldet5]

Thanks, Terry...very helpful information! :)

I guess I just have one question left:

Are you saying that you are using both cards in the same machine or are you using 2 separate machines? If I could install both cards (let's say the MDP-130 in a PCI slot and the Fusion 5 in a PCI-E X1 slot) and have them peacefully coexist in the same machine, independently controllable using CW_EPG, that would work for me...;)

Thanks again!

I had no problems with one PCI Fusion 5 and one MYHD in the same machine. I believe a number of peole are using Allen's playlist manager and Record This to manage recordings. And of course you now have the option of CW_EPG 2.0.

Real problems having two Fusions trying to use the stock Fusion software. Currently trying out BTV until Fusion 3.70.01 :D is out.

[TPeterson]

Are you saying that you are using both cards in the same machine?Yes. In fact, I've never had a Fusion unit in a PC all by itself. Ever since my first FusionHDTV II, they've had to coexist with an MDP. ;) Right now my HTPC and two test machines all have an MDP and at least one Fusion unit attached. As Jeff said, the problems (occasional recording glitches/missed captures) seem only begin with the current sw when you add a second Fusion unit to a single machine.

[landofmu]

Yes. ....sw when you add a second Fusion unit to a single machine.

I'm another with multiple cards in the same pc.

(2) fusion F5 Gold RT's
(1) MDP-130

Vista Business
CW_EPG 2.0
P4 2.0 Ghz
1 GB Ram
(2) 250 GB HDDs
Soundblaster X-Fi ExtremeAudio
ATI Raedon X700
Dell 24" wide at 1920x1200
D-Link (wired) NIC

[tomas]

Does anyone make a USB product like the FusionHDTV DVB-T nano that works with x64 for the US market?

Here's the product info page:
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Products/dvbtnano.aspx

[TPeterson]

Does anyone make a USB product like the FusionHDTV DVB-T nano that works with x64 for the US market?

Here's the product info page:
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/ENG/Products/dvbtnano.aspxI'm not following you...the FusionHDTV nano does work with x64 according to that page...and it is a USB product...?

[tomas]

I'm not following you...the FusionHDTV nano does work with x64 according to that page...and it is a USB product...?

but it doesn't work with our over-the-air HD system here in the States.

I've tried both the FujiPlus USB HDTV and the Pinnacle USB and neither one will work with x64 XP.

[TPeterson]

Tener paciencia, hijo. When DViCo catches up with the DVB-T demand, the Nano will be reaching our shores.

[Fonceur]

AFAIK, there is no way to "mix" FW and QAM recordings.
Well, Beyond TV + BTV-Externinator will do that... That requires using some third party software which is non trivial to setup, but... ;)

[obeewaan]

I'm another with multiple cards in the same pc.

(2) fusion F5 Gold RT's
(1) MDP-130

Vista Business
CW_EPG 2.0
P4 2.0 Ghz
1 GB Ram
(2) 250 GB HDDs
Soundblaster X-Fi ExtremeAudio
ATI Raedon X700
Dell 24" wide at 1920x1200
D-Link (wired) NIC

Are you able to record SD channels on your MDP130 card ?

I also have a F5 Gold RT and wanting to add a second card, but not sure MDP130 would do SD channels on my system (TW cable QAM ).
thanks

[TPeterson]

Well, Beyond TV + BTV-Externinator will do that... That requires using some third party software which is non trivial to setup, but... ;)Aha. I sit corrected. :D

Fonceur, melad, It seems that you've been busy. Folks here who're interested in integrating Firewire, OTA, and QAM recordings in Beyond TV's (not free, but very slick) EPG frontend will want to check out the following threads:

BTV Forum introduction to BTV-Externinator (http://forums.snapstream.com/vb/showthread.php?t=38716)

BTV-Externinator home page (http://www.beyondhtpc.com/fonceur/BTV-Extern/)

(N.B.: That's not an "m" after the first "r")

Be prepared for some speed bumps on the learning curve.... ;)

[TPeterson]

Are you able to record SD channels on your MDP130 card ?Yes, of course. SDTV and HDTV ATSC and QAM recordings are fully equivalent from the software's POV.

If you meant to say "NTSC channels"--i.e., analog recording--the answer is, "yes, able but not willing".

[landofmu]

Are you able to record SD channels on your MDP130 card ?

I also have a F5 Gold RT and wanting to add a second card, but not sure MDP130 would do SD channels on my system (TW cable QAM ).
thanks
With the current state of the minimal drivers for the X-Fi card .... NO!
I can record video but no audio. Currently, under Vista, to record the audio portion I need to be able to tell the X-FI that input is on the AUX channel. the Vista driver set for X-Fi currently dousn't have that capability AFAIK. So the setup would be MDP130 internal audio cable to X-Fi internal AUX connector. This does work when running XP. Video compressor used in the MDP130 for analog is set to my DIVX compressor.
It seems that analog recording w/130 has always been a hit or miss situation VERY dependent on HW/SW of the system in which it is running.

[TPeterson]

N.B.: To clarify...although it's not clearly stated, everything in landofmu's post above relates to ANALOG recording (in WinV) and not SDTV recording of cable QAM.

[landofmu]

N.B.: To clarify...although it's not clearly stated, everything in landofmu's post above relates to ANALOG recording (in WinV) and not SDTV recording of cable QAM.

Correct :)

[obeewaan]

Yes, of course. SDTV and HDTV ATSC and QAM recordings are fully equivalent from the software's POV.

If you meant to say "NTSC channels"--i.e., analog recording--the answer is, "yes, able but not willing".

I have TimeWarner cable, so I get my TV from QAM, and have no STB here.

I am interested in finding out if MDP 130 is capable of tuning and recording SD QAM channels without issues.

( FYI- TW cable in my area has a lot more SD channels than HD channels )

It just dawned on me that, MDP 130 Analog recording issues are related to OTA NTSC reception, NOT cable QAM. Right ?

[TPeterson]

That's what I was trying to make sure was clear, yes.

Recording 256 QAM is recording 256 QAM, and it doesn't matter whether the transport streams are HDTV or SDTV--it's all digital TV! (I assume that your TW cable does not use 64 QAM for anything but the music channels, as is the case for most cablecos these days. If it does use 64 QAM for some video, then those would not be recordable with MyHD)

[jldet5]

Hi guys
I am thinking of adding a Fusion HDTV5 USB Gold to my current system.

1- Will I be able to record a program and watch a different pre-recorded program simultaneously ? ( which is why I am getting a 2nd tuner :D )

(I know that fusion app has a 2 tuner setup configuration, just wondering if it works well )

2- What is a good program to use for watching .tp /.ts files, other than Fusion HDTV application ?

thanks in advance

The BTV software seems to be working great for RECORDING with a dual PCI Fusion tuner set up. So if you run into problems with the stock software this is where I think you should look. I've had it installed for about 4 days now without a crash or missed recording. I do not have enough horse power in my HTPC to use BTV software playback. I believe they have QAM in beta I didn't look into as I just want to get OTA right now.

For low horse power HTPCs SageTV looks maybe even better as they advertise DxVA usage. After my free 21 day trial is up I'll be testing SageTV for a free 15 day trial.

I use the MYHD card for playback and a third tuner. Allen's playlist manager is great for taking the fusion recordings and loading them up into MYHD's playback list.

[midnightman]

Anyone got this problem: when Fusion HDTV crashes, it’s still stuck in memory and you can’t launch HDTV application again. Open task manager, you CAN’T even kill it! Only rebooting helps which is so annoying. :mad:

BTW, my Fusion HDTV crashes twice (or more) a day now

(Fusion 5 Express on Vista Ultimate)

[TPeterson]

midnightman, welcome to the bleeding edge (WinV). There is a Vista and Fusion thread where you may find more help. I suspect that you have a flawed FusionHDTV installation, but I have no WinV experience. All I can say is that I haven't seen the sort of crash that you describe at all in either Windows 2000 or XP--and there are very few crashes at all in those OSes with any of the recent FusionHDTV apps.

[MrJustAGuy]

I just bought a new FusionHDTV5 Express card online. Every time the FusionHDTV software tries to display anything, it plays for a second or two and then the computer locks up or reboots or locks up and THEN reboots.

My specifications are as follows:
Motherboard: MSI K8NGM2-FID (aka MS-7207PV)
CPU: AMD Athlon 64X2 4200+
RAM: 2GB (2x1GB) dual-channel PC3200
Hard drive: Seagate 750GB SATA
Video: ATI Radeon X1950 Pro (Catalyst 7.3)
OS: Windows XP SP2 with all critical updates and nothing else

Before anyone asks any of the obvious questions, here's what I've done to make this work:

1: Updated latest motherboard BIOS
2: Set motherboard BIOS settings to "Fail-Safe Defaults"
3: Cleanly reinstalled Windows XP SP2 and critical updates
4: Clean install Catalyst 7.3 drivers for ATI Radeon
5: Disable fastwrites on video card (per DVICO FAQ page)
6: Disable write combining on video card (per DVICO FAQ page)
7: Inserted FusionHDTV Express card
8: Clean install FusionHDTV driver and software
9: Close all unneeded services and open windows
10: Open FusionHDTV 3.61 software

Computer shows channel 9 (how it picked 9 I do not know) for 2 seconds and reboots.

I've read the manual, I've read the software readmes, I've read every FAQ on their website, and I've skimmed this entire thread. I've posted this question on the DVICO Q&A, but I don't expect much help. Judging from their website, their communication skills are somewhat questionable. I'm at my wits end.

What else can be done? I really don't want to have to return this card to the dealer.

[TPeterson]

Did you try running in single-core mode (i.e., append "/onecpu" to your boot.ini entry for the current OS)? I doubt that this will have any effect but it's worth a test.

Does Device Manager show any resource conflicts or improper device statuses?

P.S.: FusionHDTV always starts tuned to ch. 9 before you've completed a channel scan. This has to do with the default channel list from Korea.

[MrJustAGuy]

Did you try running in single-core mode (i.e., append "/onecpu" to your boot.ini entry for the current OS)? I doubt that this will have any effect but it's worth a test.

Does Device Manager show any resource conflicts or improper device statuses?

P.S.: FusionHDTV always starts tuned to ch. 9 before you've completed a channel scan. This has to do with the default channel list from Korea.

I just tried disabling NoExecute, adding the /onecpu switch, AND taking the somewhat drastic step of disabling ACPI as recommended by the DVICO FAQ site. Still no joy.

Edit: OK, now I'm getting annoyed.

With all these crippling settings in place, I tried accessing the tuner directly with VLC. It still displayed for a second and then rebooted.

So then I hunted down the latest beta BIOS for my motherboard. Still reboots in FusionHDTV app and in VLC.

There is something very wrong here.

[TPeterson]

Maybe it's time for an RMA exchange to eliminate the possibility that the card is bad. Or can you try it in another PC?

P.S.: You didn't answer my question about Device Manager's listing.

[MrJustAGuy]

Maybe it's time for an RMA exchange to eliminate the possibility that the card is bad. Or can you try it in another PC?

P.S.: You didn't answer my question about Device Manager's listing.

Properties page shows no conflicts.

DVICO support also recommended I downgrade from Catalyst 7.3 to 7.1, and it still resets.

[TPeterson]

OK, another thing to try before the RMA is to pull one stick of your DRAM pair and see if the problem goes away. If it doesn't, also try with just the other DRAM stick.

[MrJustAGuy]

OK, another thing to try before the RMA is to pull one stick of your DRAM pair and see if the problem goes away. If it doesn't, also try with just the other DRAM stick.

I wouldn't have thought of that, thanks.

Unfortunately it still freezes with either stick by itself. So I'm going to send it back before I decide it's worth $200 just for the satisfaction of shooting it.

[TPeterson]

By "send it back" do you mean an RMA exchange? I think that you likely have a bad card so that a replacement would probably work for you--but of course I've no experience with your exact mobo.

[Northville Dave]

I wouldn't have thought of that, thanks.

Unfortunately it still freezes with either stick by itself. So I'm going to send it back before I decide it's worth $200 just for the satisfaction of shooting it.

My setup is nothing like yours (XPSP2), but I've never been able to get my Fusion3Gold PCI card running right with anything later than Catalyst 6.4. I don't remember what the problems were, but it can't hurt to try it.

[MrJustAGuy]

My setup is nothing like yours (XPSP2), but I've never been able to get my Fusion3Gold PCI card running right with anything later than Catalyst 6.4. I don't remember what the problems were, but it can't hurt to try it.

I've decided to go with an external tuner. This project has frustrated me enough for now.

But before I gave up, I tried pulling the Radeon and using my motherboard's onboard nVidia video with the Windows stock driver. Still froze.

So it could well be a bad individual card, but I don't have the patience to keep poking at it. I'll send it back, be out a few bucks for shipping, and get a USB tuner.

Thanks to all for your assistance!

[obeewaan]

midnightman, welcome to the bleeding edge (WinV). There is a Vista and Fusion thread where you may find more help.



I searched and searched for that thread in the main HTPC forum but no luck.

If you dont mind, can you please post that link.

I just got me a new Gateway CX210X convertible laptop with vista HP and wanting to try it out with Fusion USB.

thanks

[TPeterson]

I searched and searched for that thread in the main HTPC forum but no luck.You're kidding me, right? :rolleyes:


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=799415

[obeewaan]

You're kidding me, right? :rolleyes:


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=799415

Umm, no. I guess my noobiness is exposed. :D

thanks vm sir, and I 'll let u guys know how it goes.

[Mad Mac]

Got a new oddity going on with my Fusion 5 Lite........

Problem first started when a new HD channel was added to the cable system (KCAL 9, Channel 104, bandwidth 672 - 678 MHz - I'll come to the subchannel later). Tuned it in, all was well, then found that it sometimes wasnt there. What was happening was that if I selected that channel, signal level would be briefly over 90% then drop to zero and stay there. Running "Auto Tune" will sometimes not find the channel at all, other times it will show all subchannels as encrypted, other times it will show one of the three subchannels at unencrypted (and not always the same one), adding D104 manually will sometimes bring it back. This particular subchannel will sometimes be in different places (sometimes 1040, sometimes 1041, sometimes 1042). Also, running Auto Tune will sometimes bring up the same issue with Channel 93 and its subchannels (come up as "encrypted" or unable to locate). Another 'fix' which sometimes works is to select the 'S-video' input then go back to 'Live'.

I've tried connecting direct to the point of entry to the house to eliminate any possible internal home issues - same thing happens. Both the HD DVR and HDTV (has QAM tuner) show no signs of this issue. On that basis, I don't believe this is an issue with the cable system or my home. Is the card picking up some kind of interference to cause this, or is it time to give up on it?

[ElectricLegs]

I've decided to go with an external tuner. This project has frustrated me enough for now.

But before I gave up, I tried pulling the Radeon and using my motherboard's onboard nVidia video with the Windows stock driver. Still froze.

So it could well be a bad individual card, but I don't have the patience to keep poking at it. I'll send it back, be out a few bucks for shipping, and get a USB tuner.

Thanks to all for your assistance!

How many slots did you try the card in? Sounds like an IRQ sharing problem. I have 1 slot that my F5 reboots like your's too. Remove/reinstall the F5 app after changing slots Enable ACPI and fastwrites/etc too. -EL

[TPeterson]

Got a new oddity going on with my Fusion 5 Lite........

Problem first started when a new HD channel was added to the cable system (KCAL 9, Channel 104, bandwidth 672 - 678 MHz - I'll come to the subchannel later). Tuned it in, all was well, then found that it sometimes wasnt there. What was happening was that if I selected that channel, signal level would be briefly over 90% then drop to zero and stay there. Running "Auto Tune" will sometimes not find the channel at all, other times it will show all subchannels as encrypted, other times it will show one of the three subchannels at unencrypted (and not always the same one), adding D104 manually will sometimes bring it back. This particular subchannel will sometimes be in different places (sometimes 1040, sometimes 1041, sometimes 1042). Also, running Auto Tune will sometimes bring up the same issue with Channel 93 and its subchannels (come up as "encrypted" or unable to locate). Another 'fix' which sometimes works is to select the 'S-video' input then go back to 'Live'. What sw version are you running?

[Mad Mac]

3.60.01, but also happened under the previous version (3.50.01?)

[TPeterson]

Then how is it a "new oddity"? :confused:

What is your OS?

You may want to try the driver in the "2000" folder if you're using the "unified driver".

[Mad Mac]

New as in "never used to happen", and "no specific event that coincides with this starting to happen". I'm running XP here. I'll check the 2000 folder driver out, thanks.

[Clarence]

A few years ago I had a Fusion3, but we moved out of OTA range and got HD cable. This week I bought a Fusion5 USB to play with QAM.

But when I do autoscan for Analog+Digital for TV (Usa) = Cable TV, I get 0 digital channels, and only 2 analog channels...
5-CATV ANALOG
6- CATV ANALOG

I've tried 3 different PCs (XP home, XP pro, and MCE).
I've tried 4 different cable wires and cable outlets.
I've tried 3 different software versions... 3.60, 3.50 (from the factory CD), and 3.41 (from the dvico web site).
I tried the reset button on the side of the Fusion5 USB box.
I tried toggling the Input Source to S-Video then back to Cable (based on an earlier post).

I also tried entering channels manually: Channel.. Add.. RF Ch = 26/27/39/48/36/34.. Mode=DigitalTV, Type=256QAM (I also tried 8VSB and 64QAM).

Everything gives me the same results... 0% signal strength... 0 digital channels, and only 2 analog channels...
5-CATV ANALOG
6- CATV ANALOG

Comcast cable in Loudoun Co VA.
I get the HD channels fine on my Motorola 6412's.

Why can't I see any QAM digital channels on the Fusion5 USB?

Thanks.

[TPeterson]

Why can't I see any QAM digital channels on the Fusion5 USB?Because you haven't applied the HRC Registry patch for your HRC cable system!

[Clarence]

Thanks TP.

I remember seeing HRC mentioned in some of my searches here, on the dvico faq, or in google... I'll look for it again....

Here was the applicable FAQ...
http://www.fusionhdtv.co.kr/Eng/Support/FAQChannelScanning.aspx?act=RD&id=205&pg=0&CATID=11&SCATID=44

Q: Unable to scan/tune anything on CATV analog

A: If you use the HRC frequency, our software doesn't it at this moment.

But is you install the following registry, you can tune the HRC frequency into our software.

[ Download ] (ftp://ftp.dvico.com/Products/FusionHDTV/hrc_frequency.reg)

Here's the info from MSDN about the registry keys in the .reg file:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/?url=/library/en-us/directshow/htm/frequencyoverrides.asp

By adding/removing the data in this table, you can swap between HRC/STD
frequencies pretty easily.I didn't try the registry hack because I didn't think QAM was "CATV analog".
That's what I get for thinking. :o

[Clarence]

Yep... .that worked... autoscan found 466 channels. I added the HD channels to favorites and the .tp records fine

Thanks

[jamesavery22]

Yep... .that worked... autoscan found 466 channels. I added the HD channels to favorites and the .tp records fine

Thanks

Hi Clarence,
Did you have to do anything other than import that .reg file and do another autoscan? Or did you have to tweak those settings?

[Mad Mac]

Just an update on this - I've given up on the Fusion 5 Lite for now, installed an Aver M780 (PCI Express), running with their Media Center (beta version), and very impressive thus far!

[Clarence]

Hi Clarence,
Did you have to do anything other than import that .reg file and do another autoscan? Or did you have to tweak those settings?Nope... that was it... I just double-clicked the hrc_frequency.reg file, XP asked me if I wanted to add the settings to my registry, I clicked Yes, then did an autoscan and it worked.

As expected, most of the channels are encrypted, SD, or radio.

Only 4 HD channels came up with station call sign ID's:
D5 (WTTG-HD) FOX
D9 (WUSA-HD) CBS
D830 (WJLA-HD) ABC
D831 (WETA-HD) PBS

I'll have to figure out where NBC is (does anybody on comcast cable in Loudoun VA know?)

Signal strength is 100% 34.8db

Aside from the SD channels, there are also a couple of other channels with video, one non-basic HD channel that I expected to be encrypted, and one showing DVD or VOD previews in a small PIP... my guess is that it's intended for the background feed for a tv guide.

[jamesavery22]

I did the same, got the same channels. But after the fact(didn't do enough research) found out no QAM through MCE so I'm trying to revert back to OTA. How can I uninstall that hrc_frequency import?

[TPeterson]

Just delete the Registry branch that it added.

...but since all it does is to change the frequencies used by the card for tuning the CABLE input, that will have no effect on your use of MCE. Your difficulties have other sources.

[ericjw]

Anyone got this problem: when Fusion HDTV crashes, it’s still stuck in memory and you can’t launch HDTV application again. Open task manager, you CAN’T even kill it! Only rebooting helps which is so annoying. :mad:

BTW, my Fusion HDTV crashes twice (or more) a day now

(Fusion 5 Express on Vista Ultimate)


I see exactly the same behavior and am using Fusion 5 Express on a Vista Home 64 bit version. I notice it seems to happen when the disk drive is quite busy. Mine crashes two or three times per day also. I hate having to reboot for it! :(

[TPeterson]

I've seen the crashing to unkillable process too, once or twice, under WinXP/2k but I haven't found a recipe for reproducing it. If you have a method for reliably provoking this bug, please let me know so I can report it.

[Maruuk]

Can anybody explain to a non-techie why we should or should not use the VMR Renderer? I can't see any PQ enhancement when it's on and it seems to cause increased freeze and stutter. I've read that it uses your graphics card exclusively and I've got a nice X1300 with 256 so it shouldn't be taxed much. Also read the VMR is supposed be a huge advancement and should give you significantly better video. Yet it doesn't. Anybody clear up this mysterious element?

[BooYeah]

I've seen the crashing to unkillable process too, once or twice, under WinXP/2k but I haven't found a recipe for reproducing it. If you have a method for reliably provoking this bug, please let me know so I can report it. Seems like it was the fusion 3.50.01 drivers and whenever the FOX national feed would switch to the FOX local feed Fusion HDTV would close. I could not open the program unless I went into task manager and killed the process. I don't recall having this problem with any other feed . .

I uninstalled the 3.50.01 drivers and went back to 3.30.01 - - does not seem to be an issue anymore . . .

Really strange . . .

edit: SORRY! I just noticed thew 'unkillable' - Never had that problem as I could always end the process in Task Manager . . .

[TPeterson]

Can anybody explain to a non-techie why we should or should not use the VMR Renderer? I can't see any PQ enhancement when it's on and it seems to cause increased freeze and stutter.Clearly your video card's driver isn't cooperating with FusionHDTV's VMR mode. Either don't use it or get a different driver version that works better with Fusion's VMR.

[TPeterson]

[With] the fusion 3.50.01 drivers...[when] the FOX national feed would switch to the FOX local feed Fusion HDTV would close.Did you ever try the 3.60 or 3.61 app to see if they fix this problem?

[Maruuk]

Clearly your video card's driver isn't cooperating with FusionHDTV's VMR mode. Either don't use it or get a different driver version that works better with Fusion's VMR.

Thanks, so if my ATI Radeon X1300 Pro's latest driver isn't handshaking properly with Fusion's VMR renderer in its latest rev I should try to go back to some legacy rev driver for the Radeon? When the VMR is working right do you see some big improvement in video?

[TPeterson]

Not that I've noticed. But, IIRC, the Timeshift function requires VMR mode.

[Maruuk]

Wow, is that the ability to set record for a future program?

[TPeterson]

No, it's the ability to pause and resume live TV, such as was pioneered by TiVo.

If you want an easy way to set up recordings (including "season passes") see the CW_EPG thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=659993).

[Maruuk]

Ah, no wonder I can't pause and rewind live, no buffering without the VMR! Insidious little tool. You'd think the latest Radeon and latest Fusion drivers would be compatible. But alas. If you're in DVICO world, you're in DIY hobby-hacker land, not plug n play toasterville.

[Maruuk]

Hm just tried activating the VMR renderer and no go, still can't pause live video.

[TPeterson]

What's your OS and update level?

[BooYeah]

Did you ever try the 3.60 or 3.61 app to see if they fix this problem? I've been sitting on the 3.61 drivers since they came out while I upgrade to a new box.

I was actually quite happy with 3.50 - found it launching much faster and switching channels more quickly. I never could work around that oogly FOX problem though. Really strange . . .

The new machine is built and I'm almost done tweaking - I'm going with 3.61 on a clean install. I'm looking forward to it (and that new 4-way Opty power!)

[Maruuk]

3.60.01 and XP--are they actually up to 3.61 already?

[TPeterson]

What SP level of XP? You need SP2 for the Timeshift function.

3.61 and 3.60 are very little different for U.S. model Fusion units, but some folks using WinV have claimed better results with 3.61.

[Maruuk]

Oh ya got SP2. Have various malfunctions--the pause/Tivo features don't work on live with the VMR activated, VMR causes stuttering, my recordings always start bad freezing and jittering at the 2 hour mark (even though I've defragged and have pretty good headroom on the HD) and the EPG programming thing sometimes records the wrong station. But I love the HD I get OTA, and for $100 whadda ya want anyways? I mean some guys have to devote their entire machine to nothing but Fusion to get it to run right, heck, I'm lucky I get anything at all.

[TPeterson]

Maruuk--

It sounds as though your FusionHDTV installation is incorrect. You should be getting better results under WinXP SP2 with modern hw. I suggest that you try reinstalling it and carefully follow The KAXKID Procedure (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7600356&&#post7600356).

[Maruuk]

Yeah thanks, T! As Soup Nazi-like as these install procedures are, I guess Fusion is super sensitive to ordering the soup in exactly the right way. I'm surprised it works at all if you don't install exactly right. I thought I did everything right, but I'll try again. I'm not getting into any 2-hour "remove the PCI card" routines though. Man, do we get to have a life and own a Dvico tuner?

BTW, how do you know if you've got DirectX 9 working properly? I ran the DX9 installer ok but is there some way to know if Fusion is utilizing/accessing it successfully?

[TPeterson]

If you run the dxdiag program it will tell you if the DX components are functioning correctly.

Yes, FusionHDTV has a justified reputation for being difficult to install (and it actually got a bit harder with 3.6x). That's why Steve worked so hard on documenting a successful procedure. Read and follow, Grasshopper.

[Maruuk]

Thanks, T! You know, I just installed DX9 (again? dunno) and things seem about the same. Is this dxdiag in the dx9 folder?

[TPeterson]

Don't recall. F3 is your friend.

[Maruuk]

Wonder what F3 does--nothing on my PC.

[Maruuk]

Found that Dxdiag--says evvything ok. That's a relief!

[TPeterson]

Wonder what F3 does--nothing on my PC.If F3 (on desktop or otherwise in Windows Explorer) doesn't open File Search on your PC, then it's broken indeed.

[Maruuk]

Oh yeah, it does shoot up a tiny sliver of a search bar way down at the bottom of the screen. Cool, thanks for the tip!

[supes]

Guys,
I have a quick question. Can I record one show (analog) and watch another in HD? I thought all I would have to do was use scheduler but it didnt allow me to change to the program I wanted to watch and made me watch/record the same program...

I have FUSIONHDTV version 3.60.01

[TPeterson]

If you have two (or more) Fusion units installed in your PC, yes. But the app won't allow viewing and recording at once if you have only one unit. You could use another player, such as Media Player Classic to view the previous recording.

Having said that, I should point out that analog recordings with FusionHDTV, unlike TS captures, are very demanding of your PC and I doubt that it's a good idea to try to play a file while performing an analog capture--unless your PC is very muscular and perfectly configured.

[supes]

I think I confused you. I want to record and watch LIVE TV on the FUSION software at the same time (ie. watch The CW at 8:00PM in HD and record CBS at 8:00PM)...From your answer though, I fear that I can not.

[TPeterson]

I'm not the one who's confused, since I'm not the one expecting to tune to two different programs with a single tuner. ;)

Again, FusionHDTV can control two or more Fusion units. So it is possible to view one while recording with another.

[supes]

lol... okay i get it....

[Maruuk]

Got a Sharks playoff game tomorrow in HD OTA and I need some coaching on how to break past my mysterious 2-hour limit (right about 2 hours on every recording my playback starts stuttering nastily). I have carefully defragged my HDD, no effect. I double-checked I had DirectX 9 running, and that seems ok.

I have about 70 gigs left on my HDD and the game will take up about 35-40 of that. Do I just not have enough HDD headroom? Any other ideas?

BTW, are all you guys using your VMR and getting live Tivo capabilities? If I switch to VMR I still get no pause/rewind/buffer utility and a slight tendency towards stuttering and no PQ improvement. Is that because I have the Fusion Lite?

[Maruuk]

Looks like this 2 hour stutter is a real guru stumper.

[TPeterson]

AFAICT, you haven't yet followed my previous advice (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=10369329&&#post10369329) for solving this problem. Try that first and if you still aren't successful then post some further information about how you're setting up these captures (scheduled, minimized in background, manual, etc.).

[midnightman]

I'm not the one who's confused, since I'm not the one expecting to tune to two different programs with a single tuner. ;)

Again, FusionHDTV can control two or more Fusion units. So it is possible to view one while recording with another.
Ok, so how come it’s able to display 2 different channels (when PIP on) at the same time with one tuner? :confused: I can confirm I did just that sometime

[TPeterson]

It doesn't display "two different channels" with one tuner. It can display two subchannels of a single channel, however, because that only requires one tuner.

[tedmozer]

I get the following Windows popup error message when I try to uninstall the DVICO version currently installed:

>SetupDLL\SetupDLL.cpp (496)
pAPP:FusionHDTV
PVENDOR:DVICO
PGUID:5EBE62BD-774D-40F7-B777-EA7B2EE28F80
$10.1.0.238
@Windows XP Service Pack 2 (2600) IE 7.0.6000.16414

I currently have 3.51.05 and would like to install 3.6.

[TPeterson]

Ted--

How are you trying to uninstall the app?

[tedmozer]

Through the Windows XP Control Panel Software Uninstall.

[TPeterson]

Don't do that. Read and follow The KAXKID procedure.

[tedmozer]

Link to that thread/message please (KAXKID Uninstall Procedure)?

[obeewaan]

Link to that thread/message please (KAXKID Uninstall Procedure)?

here ya go

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7600356&&#post7600356

[Paw Paw]

I see where Dvico has posted Version 3.62 in their download area. It is significant larger than version 3.61 (53.5 Mb vs 47.2 Mb). Does anyone know what has been added, fixed or improved with the new software?

[TPeterson]

3.62 was released to add support for some new models that are available in other markets. It specifically does not include any bug fixes (and stands a fairly good chance of having new bugs added). I wouldn't touch it if I were you.

[Paw Paw]

Thanks for the advice T Peterson.

I will leave it alone.

[mscoder610]

I'm wondering if anyone has ever had this problem before, and might know of a solution.

Basically, when I'm watching analog TV with the Fusion5HDTV Lite tuner card, whenever the image on the channel has a lot of white colors (or very bright things), the rest of the screen becomes incredibly washed out. Basically, the bright white colors bleed out of where they should be, and affect the rest of the picture.

Here's a screengrab to make it more clear what I mean:
img408.imageshack.us/img408/1534/fusion5wr2.gif

Any ideas? Thanks in advance.

[Maruuk]

Anybody else have their email client disconnect from the server after booting Fusion and unable to access (even if I close Fusion) until they reboot the whole machine? Very weird side effect, wonder what the program is scrambling or blocking.

[bigpoppa206]

One thing I really wished they would incorporate into the Fusion software, a way to export and import your scheduled recordings list, unless there's something I'm missing. But it is nice to see the software become more stable as it has in the last year.

[TPeterson]

Have you tried CW_EPG (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=659993)? I think that you'll find that CW_EPG makes "importing" and "exporting" of your recording lists unnecessary.

[bigpoppa206]

Have you tried CW_EPG (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=659993)? I think that you'll find that CW_EPG makes "importing" and "exporting" of your recording lists unnecessary.
Good idea, I'll look into it.

One new thing to get used to, with the latest version of the FusionHDTV software, instead of saving a .tp file as the name of the scheduled recording like it used to, it nows appends the date and the day to the file name.

[jldet5]

Good idea, I'll look into it.

One new thing to get used to, with the latest version of the FusionHDTV software, instead of saving a .tp file as the name of the scheduled recording like it used to, it nows appends the date and the day to the file name.

Once you do you'll never go back. CWEPG is pretty easy to set up. The XML based scheduling follows all the time slot changes like this week ER started 7 minutes early...grey's was two hours....bones was repeat...x changed from tuesday to thursday...etc. Unless you read the TVGuide everyday this will be more accurate (over 99%) than manual recording.

If your happy with the Fusion software this a good way to go.

[TPeterson]

...and if you're not, it's an especially good way to go, as it minimizes your need to interact with it. ;)

[thegoldenstrand]

Having some problems once new 3.62.01 driver is loaded.

Actually best looking set up to this point.. get subscription channels too, like 1010+Comcast digital channels

Problem is once you get out of program, you can't get back in without the message,

Menu index out of range
Access Violation at address 005689EC in module 'FusionHDTV.exe. Read at 00000088

This is then followed by unending stream of boxes with same message exept for at address 005592BC. Read at 00000057

Is this a problem with the new driver or could something in my system be contributing to this.. I believe I had a good install, when I went into device messenger.. NO yellow marked devices, which I get if somehow not fully installed in earlier driver versions.

My specs if they might help
Asus A8R32-MVP
Opteron 185 at 240X11 or just over stock at 2.65 versus 2.6
2 GB Mushkin Redline at 240 or DDR 480, ram is rated at DDR 500
GeForce 7600 GT - Fatal1ty.. so a little faster than norm.
Dvico HDTV5 RT Gold

Any ideas appreciated!!

Mike

[TPeterson]

1. I don't know what you mean by "subscription" channels. You don't get any encrypted channels with any PC tuner.

2. You have a bad installation that's causing some of the errors.

3. That version is not vetted for U.S. TV. Use The KAXKID Procedure (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7600356&&#post7600356) to uninstall it and then install 3.61.

[tranle]

Menu index out of range
Access Violation at address 005689EC in module 'FusionHDTV.exe. Read at 00000088

I got this message at the beginning but after having gone into the "Favorites channels" edit and removed all my selections, restart fusionhdtv, and re-added my selections, the problem has not re-appeared.

[thegoldenstrand]

i had not thought that those favorites I had added might have contributed to problem.. thanks for sharing you got same message.

Could it be a bug in the Dvico software.. really strange how once boxes started popping up.. they did not stop.. unless you clicked ok.. then I was able to get into program and watch tv, but then could not use cursor..

So.. in the end I uninstalled using the KAXKID procedure or my version of it.. the two step.. install.. remove.. uninstall drivers as second step..

It seems I am getting more channels, including premium channels now.. so not all are encrypted here in the Bay area. try 1010-1030..


Mike

[TPeterson]

Mike, those are VOD channels. Not very useful, since they have no "guide" and can be FF/REW at any time!

Congratulations on getting a good installation via KAXKID.

[bigpoppa206]

It seems I am getting more channels, including premium channels now.. so not all are encrypted here in the Bay area. try 1010-1030.
Enjoy them while you can. If you're on Comcast like I am up here in Seattle, they just encrypted all the On-Demand channels so they are unavailable.

[audionewer]

i want to know anyone use the Pcie express tuner card from Dvico yet? is it really support PiP or not?

[TPeterson]

Yes, it supports the same functions as the non-Express RT cards.

[audionewer]

so all of the Dvico tuner card support PiP? is that correct? or only the PCIE tuner card only support it?

[TPeterson]

They all do, but (for most people) only under WinXP because the PIP overlay uses VMR7, which gets trashed in Win2k when you "upgrade" it to DirectX9.

[audionewer]

so i guess, windows vista mce will not work on PiP also.

[TPeterson]

MCE will have whatever MCE has. That has nothing to do with the FusionHDTV app, which is what the OP was asking about. If you want to know about that, go ask in the WinV Fusion thread.

[UseYourName]

Hello all,

I am a newbie to the Dvico Fusionhdtv scene and the AVS forums. I'm desperately in need of help with my Fusionhdtv5 RT Gold PCI card. I'm at wit's end at trying to configure it. I just recently built a new system and here are the components:

Intel E6300
2GB RAM
500 GB WD HDD
Nvidia GeForce 7900GS
520W psu

I am subscribed to regular and HD premium packages with Time Warner in Houston, TX and was planning on using the Fusionhdtv card for cable only. So, I've just added the Fusionhdtv5 RT Gold card and spent over 3 hours last night trying to install the drivers correctly. After multiple uninstalls and reinstalls, I have verified that all the drivers are loaded correctly. I even uninstalled and reinstalled my Nvidia GeForce 7900GS video card drivers just to make sure I wasn't missing anything there.

The problem is when I scan for Digital cable, I get absolutely zero channels, not even the free public broadcast HD channels. I am able to scan through the Analog cable channels BUT they are all in black and white and have a fuzziness to them.

Can anyone please provide some help? tips? pointers? or advice? I am almost ready to yank this card out of my system and toss it out the window. :mad: I was hoping that this card would be plug and play right out the box but apparently it doesn't want to play w/ my cable connection. :p

Thanks in advance!

[TPeterson]

If you don't see relatively clear analog channels on your cable, you need to do something about the cable signal before you can expect to tune QAM channels, which require very high signal to noise ratio for good reception. Take out all of the splitters in your FusionHDTV input path and try again. If you still see poor analog reception, check further upstream on the cable for more splitters/bad wires. If that fails, call the cableco for help with your cable signal.

[UseYourName]

Thanks for the tip. I checked last night when I was running the cable line to the designated room and there is only one splitter. My home has prewired outlets for all rooms that lead to one physical unit stored in a utility room. The splitter is used to split the cable modem and cable to the rooms. I do already have two HD STB (SA8300 boxes) in other rooms, other than that, nothing else. I have checked the signal to a regular tv (in the room w/ Fusionhdtv5 card) and the picture is fine. Could the STB's be hogging up the signal bandwidth?

[TPeterson]

Did you hook the TV to the very same connection as the one that was going to the Fusion tuner? If so, and you see a clear analog TV picture, then there's a good chance that you have a bad card.

BTW, there may be only one splitter, but it sounds as though it is a multiple-way split (one leg to each of the rooms fed from it) and you'll lose a bit over 3 dB for each pair of legs it has. I suggest that you try to bypass it and hook the Fusion tuner directly to the line coming into the house without any splitters before you give up on it. If you find that it works acceptably when directly connected to the cable drop, you can then add a distribution amplifier just upstream of that multiple tap unit to boost all the legs.

[UseYourName]

Yep, the TV connection was based on the same connection going to the Fusion tuner card. The TV had clear, color picture.

[TPeterson]

See my edit just above, added while you were typing.

[UseYourName]

Thanks!! I'll give your recommendation a shot tonight. Just in advance, if all goes well with directly connecting the Fusion card to the cable drop, do you recommend any type of distribution amplifier and I imagine that it only connects to the line going out to the multi-way split?

[TPeterson]

...I imagine that it only connects to the line going out to the multi-way split?Huh? What other line is there? If you have only one multiway splitter there will be one input line from the cableco and N output lines to the room outlets. The amplifier goes on the input side of the splitter. You'll need to have an amplifier designed to feed signals back from your DVR STB and the modem to the cableco. In this case, it may be better to get the cableco to come out and boost your signal with their equipment--provided that you find that the Fusion tuner works without the splitter in the way. It still may be a bad unit.

[UseYourName]

Thanks for the clarification. I typed that a line a little confusing...whoops. When I think about it now, the utility box providing the output lines to the each room already has an amplifier built in. I'll verify again tonight and post what I find. I'm kind of leaning towards a bad card now...

[RLDWV]

Careful what amplifier you decide to install (if that's the way you choose to go). You may receive an unscheduled visit from your cableco and Larry the Cable Guy's meaner brother. Apparently a lot of the cheaper ones put noise back on the line which they can detect at the home office. (I speak from experience ;) ). If you can stand the 4 hour time-window wait, have them come out and boost your signal a bit from their own distribution amp. They probably won't charge you a thing, and may even put new compression connectors on your cables going into the splitter. Since I only have HD in one location (Fusion USB in my HT), I split the cable once and ran one to my Fusion and the other to another splitter, which feeds all the other analog SD sets in the house. Good Luck!

Bob

[litefog]

The problem is when I scan for Digital cable, I get absolutely zero channels, not even the free public broadcast HD channels. I am able to scan through the Analog cable channels BUT they are all in black and white and have a fuzziness to them.



I had the same problem with a Fusion USB tuner. It was simply defective. Could be your problem too! The replacement works fine.

[UseYourName]

Thanks guys for your tips! I verified that my utility box in my home does have a built in amplifier and all rooms seem to work fine using a normal tv to test with. I am probably going to try to return my original Fusion Gold card and get a replacement. Hopefully it'll work the next time around. Will update.

[Maruuk]

Performed the whole KAXKID Soup Nazi re-installation routine after my software crashed and burned out of nowhere right when I was about to record the TPC golf tournament. So after getting my 3.061 (or whatever this latest rev is called) soup it seemed to work live ok and I recorded 4 hours and right on cue, at the two hour mark, the recording started to freeze/skip badly--unwatchable. But I did notice before I switched over to the recorded file the live video was freezing in exactly the same way. So the process of recording more than 2 hours seems to be filling some kind of buffer or something and then going into overload mode.

Have defragged and done all the right stuff-- I suspect I simply don't have enough HD headroom--only got aboyt 70 gigs left and though my 4 hr files are only around 40, I suspect that's not enough room to roam for the data and things just get wanky after around 30 gigs of data go on.

Nobody else has had this problem?

BTW asked this before but nobody answered--I put the VMR on and off and can't see any PQ difference or functional difference between on and off. Somebody said it gives you full Tivo buffer/replay functions but mine doesn't.

Man, this Fusion crap is such a buggy toy!

[TPeterson]

....So after getting my 3.061 (or whatever this latest rev is called) soup it seemed to work live ok and I recorded 4 hours and right on cue, at the two hour mark, the recording started to freeze/skip badly--unwatchable. But I did notice before I switched over to the recorded file the live video was freezing in exactly the same way. So the process of recording more than 2 hours seems to be filling some kind of buffer or something and then going into overload mode....FusionHDTV is notoriously fussy about its installation. KAXKID's receipt is presented to try to help those who can't seem to negotiate the process without such hand-holding. The sort of inattention (or maybe it's arrogant disregard?) of details indicated in the red-marked text quoted above doesn't augur well for your success.Nobody else has had this problem?Not as far as I know.BTW asked this before but nobody answered--I put the VMR on and off and can't see any PQ difference or functional difference between on and off. Somebody said it gives you full Tivo buffer/replay functions but mine doesn't.The timeshifting functions require WinXP SP2, are you running that OS?

It's been a while since I've recorded a 4-hr file on FusionHDTV, so there may be a bug in the newest version related to that, I don't know. You could try recording a 4-hr SD program, which would need under about 4 GB, to test out the HDD remaining-space theory.

[Maruuk]

Obviously I put on whatever the latest useful release would be. It happens to be 3.60.01 (that new one with the .02 is just for non-related features). Followed the KAXKID perfectly. Have SP2--duh. How does that augur? Well enough for ya?

With VMR on there is no Tivo-like buffering/pause/rewind/whatever function. That's not available. The fact that apparently a lot guys have that under VMR just speaks to the random, klugey nature of the product. It's a hobby toy, not a fully-functioning consumer product.

But I'm stuck with it and judging from forums relating to competitive products like the All-in-wonder or whatever it's called, they're no happier over there with their can of worms.

What amazes me is: you start with the Dvico hardware, a lot of good stuff. Then you add the processing power of a good graphics card. A lot of good stuff. Then you add the processing power of your CPU on top of all that. More good stuff. Add a gig of main memory, and 256 on the card. And given all that elaborate processing power, you still can't get nearly as stable and trouble-free a viewing experience as you get with a lousy $299 HDTV from Wal-Mart with a built-in tuner. Unless you tweak and hack and tamper and dedicate your PC to become a video slave.

That's either astonishing, or speaks very poorly of Dvico's design model.

You get a good graphics card, you install a new 3D video game, and it plays and looks great. That's the way it's supposed to be. It's a toaster. It works right out of the box.

Why does HDTV hardware/software need to take us on an unpleasant time trip back to the bad old days of the 80's and 90's where every installation and implementation was a harried negotiation requiring a well-worn prayer rug?

That said, I'll just keep stopping my HD hockey and golf and baseball and movie recording at 115 minutes and start over again for another 115 minute segment to get it all in. All the time hoping President Carter can get those hostages back safely.

[jldet5]

:D Obviously I put on whatever the latest useful release would be. It happens to be 3.60.01 (that new one with the .02 is just for non-related features). Followed the KAXKID perfectly. Have SP2--duh. How does that augur? Well enough for ya?

With VMR on there is no Tivo-like buffering/pause/rewind/whatever function. That's not available. The fact that apparently a lot guys have that under VMR just speaks to the random, klugey nature of the product. It's a hobby toy, not a fully-functioning consumer product.

But I'm stuck with it and judging from forums relating to competitive products like the All-in-wonder or whatever it's called, they're no happier over there with their can of worms.

What amazes me is: you start with the Dvico hardware, a lot of good stuff. Then you add the processing power of a good graphics card. A lot of good stuff. Then you add the processing power of your CPU on top of all that. More good stuff. Add a gig of main memory, and 256 on the card. And given all that elaborate processing power, you still can't get nearly as stable and trouble-free a viewing experience as you get with a lousy $299 HDTV from Wal-Mart with a built-in tuner. Unless you tweak and hack and tamper and dedicate your PC to become a video slave.

That's either astonishing, or speaks very poorly of Dvico's design model.

You get a good graphics card, you install a new 3D video game, and it plays and looks great. That's the way it's supposed to be. It's a toaster. It works right out of the box.

Why does HDTV hardware/software need to take us on an unpleasant time trip back to the bad old days of the 80's and 90's where every installation and implementation was a harried negotiation requiring a well-worn prayer rug?

That said, I'll just keep stopping my HD hockey and golf and baseball and movie recording at 115 minutes and start over again for another 115 minute segment to get it all in. All the time hoping President Carter can get those hostages back safely.


Weird. This was happening on the 3.5 release also? Airflow on the HD and PCI cards? Maybe you got a bad sector on your HD? I can't see the DVICO software waiting 115 minutes to crash. It's usually much faster than that :D You've got something else going on like a hardware, anti virus, spyware, or some other software event kicking off.

[bigpoppa206]

Unless you tweak and hack and tamper and dedicate your PC to become a video slave.

That's either astonishing, or speaks very poorly of Dvico's design model.

You get a good graphics card, you install a new 3D video game, and it plays and looks great. That's the way it's supposed to be. It's a toaster. It works right out of the box.
I learned long ago not to try and have my computers be all things to all tasks. One is set up with my Fusion card just for recording and viewing HDTV...works flawlessly. Same with my Macs, I am using Pro Tools for audio editing and remixing. That computer does nothing else and has no added software that could conflict with its main task. Maybe your problems are some conflicts with other software?

I think we all agree, Fusion software has a ways to go, but then again it has come really far in the past couple of years too. It's definitely a balancing act.

[bigpoppa206]

Not sure if this will work for others but for those with older nvidia Geforce cards (I have a 6200) I found a different graphics driver that is outperforming all the others I have tried. Its version 84.37 and I downloaded it from downloads.guru3d.com. My CPU usage was around 50% and now it hovers around 28% while watching HD on the Fusion card.

Of course, YMMV.

[Maruuk]

The HD sectors all work out, the X1300 graphics card has a nice fan running on it. I just figure Fusion hates to get down below about 50 gigs left, it starts to have to hunt too much for open space and begins to stutter and freeze. Have to get a big honkin add-on drive.

Now here's weirdest thing of all. I tried to manually record the hockey game today, clicked on record, 90 minutes, everything started and seemed fine, game was on live video, etc. Now on playback, the $%&^%$#@ software recorded a different station, one off the one I was watching and had on. The weather subchannel channel one over from the main ch. 8. But I only have one tuner! It's impossible. I mean, I saw the video occasionally during recording and it was on the hockey game, but recorded a different channel at the same time. Huh? Nice trick with one tuner.

My only guess is that this weather channel was some subcarrier of the main channel and the tuner was grabbing both and somehow weeded out the hockey game and grabbed only the weather subchannel. This make sense?

When I manually record, should I always check "record this subcarrier only" in the box? I have no idea what a subcarrier even is, except maybe extra video data carried by the same main channel.

[TPeterson]

It's not "subcarrier", but "subchannel". You recorded both subchannels and evidently need to select the basketball game's sub when you play back the file. (Click on the number after the "-" in the channel display while the file is playing and select the other sub from the dropdown list)

If you did check the "record single subchannel" box you'd then have only the subchannel that you tuned, save some HDD space, and not have to select the correct sub on playback. You can also run the file through H2M to strip out all the subs but the one of interest in order to save the HDD space now.

[sengsational]

Many times when I want to use the Fusion software for playback, I get the error "Connect video decoder to renderer failed". OK on the dialog gives me the controls and a black rectangle (or sometimes it gives a black screen if it decides to come up in full screen). A reboot always "fixes" this error, but it's usually when the MyHD is busy recording, and so a reboot would cause a gap in the capture. But I have done that before (stopped the MyHD recording, rebooted). On startup, MyHD picks-up again, as expected, and the Fusion playback starts working fine. Tonight I also got a "Cannot change Visible in OnShow or OnHide" dialog, and the renderer failed message under it.

I would say it happens to me about once per week for the past several months (my entire history using Fusion). Sometimes I experiment with things other than rebooting. Like tonight I stopped the tray app and the main app and found still something called FusionRC.exe, which I killed through task manager. Restarting the app yielded the same error none the less. Starting the Fusion app from the icon versus "comand line style" with a file name seems not to make a difference.

It would be really cool if there were some kind of "reset" I could perform without doing a reboot. I haven't tried anything with my video card (ATI Radeon), but I'm not sure what to try there. Any ideas for a reset or work-around would be appreciated muchly.

--Dale--

[TPeterson]

Dale, what are your FusionHDTV video settings and OS? If XP, have you checked the Use VMR box?

[Maruuk]

Thanks, TP, so that's what's been going on! Had no idea Fusion recorded multiple subchannels at the same time! I just need to select the "record this subchannel only" box from now on. Very cool. And maybe that'll reduce my file size which could give me more than 2 hours too.

[hatawa]

Well after two months of using the DVICO FusionHDTV5 tuner, I can safely say that it is better than the VBOX Catseye USB. All else was equal as I switched the DVICo for the VBox. I can now record anything I want without the drop-outs that were associated with the VBOX.

[jldet5]

Well after two months of using the DVICO FusionHDTV5 tuner, I can safely say that it is better than the VBOX Catseye USB. All else was equal as I switched the DVICo for the VBox. I can now record anything I want without the drop-outs that were associated with the VBOX.

Always good to know. Thanks for the side by side compare!

[sengsational]

Dale, what are your FusionHDTV video settings and OS? If XP, have you checked the Use VMR box?Thanks for the reply, Terry. Sorry about leaving out a lot of important factoids...I've been just using/enjoying for the most part, no need to tweak. Last night, waiting for the MyHD recording to finish so I could reboot, I fired-off the post about connect to renderer failing.

To answer your questions, though, it says "Zulu HDTV (DxVA) Video Decoder", and the "use VMR Renderer" is not checked. It's running on XP Home. I think it's an "all defaults" install, but of course I had to have selected directx during the install. And I think I changed to terminate the program after every scheduled recording in the agent.

I really like Fusion as a recorder, and besides this intermittent problem, I'm liking Fusion as a player. It has allowed me to play back an HD recording while MyHD is recording whereas a pure CPU driven solution (VLC) dropped frames to the point of not being watchable.

--Dale--

[TPeterson]

Dale, AIUI, that message comes up when FusionHDTV finds that another program has grabbed the overlay and using VMR instead will make such messages not appear.

[Maruuk]

Does the VMR tax the cpu or the graphics card much?

[TPeterson]

It's more taxing than overlay, yes, but not too big a job for most relatively modern hardware. (Just monitor your CPU usage with Task Monitor to see how much your system is affected by changing from overlay to VMR. Likely, you'll find that the increase is trivial)

[sengsational]

Dale, AIUI, that message comes up when FusionHDTV finds that another program has grabbed the overlay and using VMR instead will make such messages not appear.Thanks for the idea. It's not often that a checkbox in plain view solves the problem. It's always that pesky problem of knowing what checkboxes to check ;-) That's why forums and folks like you are so cool. I'll give the VMR checkbox a try. As I said, it was happening regularly, so if it goes away, that would have been it. My CPU muscle is on the low side, but I'll do the CPU monitor thing, as you suggested in another post to see if it's pushing toward the edge.

--Dale--

[Maruuk]

Actually the VMR uses only the graphics card--no CPU cycles are needed. That's because robbing from the CPU would slow framerate, a huge no-no.

[soldier22nd]

Hey everyone,

I was wondering if anyone else on here has had any issues with using one HDTV Fusion 5 Gold and one HDTV Fusion Lite in BTV 4.6.1 . BTV only seems to recognize one of my cards. I believe it's the HDTV Fusion 5 Lite that is being recognized at this point. I have tried reinstalling the drivers and have the most recent ones. Also tried reinstalling BTV. Also, I can't get the firefly mini remote to work either if anyone has any suggestions. I meet all requirements I have a P4 3.0, 1gb ram, 256 geforce 6200, 250gb hard drive and Asus P5PE-VM motherboard. I'm running xp home with all the latest updates. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.

[TPeterson]

Does the VMR tax the cpu or the graphics card much?Actually the VMR uses only the graphics card--no CPU cycles are needed. That's because robbing from the CPU would slow framerate, a huge no-no.Did some studying yesterday, did we? ;)

I experimented on two WinXP machines and couldn't see a measurable difference in CPU use between VMR and overlay with FusionHDTV 3.60. So I conclude that Maruuk's latest info is correct and any additional "tax" of VMR is on the GPU, which I don't know how to monitor.

[TPeterson]

I was wondering if anyone else on here has had any issues with using one HDTV Fusion 5 Gold and one HDTV Fusion Lite in BTV 4.6.1 ....This sounds like a good question for a BTV forum/thread. ;)

[gerhard911]

If you are running the OEM version of BTV (I believe they call it Express) it will apparently only recognize a single tuner.

I see that you have also posted at the Snapstrem forum.

Good Luck !

Hey everyone,

I was wondering if anyone else on here has had any issues with using one HDTV Fusion 5 Gold and one HDTV Fusion Lite in BTV 4.6.1 . BTV only seems to recognize one of my cards. I believe it's the HDTV Fusion 5 Lite that is being recognized at this point. I have tried reinstalling the drivers and have the most recent ones. Also tried reinstalling BTV. Also, I can't get the firefly mini remote to work either if anyone has any suggestions. I meet all requirements I have a P4 3.0, 1gb ram, 256 geforce 6200, 250gb hard drive and Asus P5PE-VM motherboard. I'm running xp home with all the latest updates. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.

[Maruuk]

I still can't get any of the standard "Tivo"-like timeshifting when my VMR is selected in Live mode. In other words, it doesn't activate any buffering allowed time navigation of the buffer. Are all you guys getting that and I'm not, or is there some other trick to activating it? Or maybe it's a limitation of my Lite card as everything else seems nominal.

At least I can activate the VMR without stuttering now, though I can't see any difference with it on or off. I think I maybe didn't have DirectX 9.0 on board, so after I installed that, the VMR functioned ok. I just wish it DID some thing useful PQ-wise.

[TPeterson]

If you're running WinXP SP2, IIRC, timeshifting should be available, with FF & REW even, on the Lite card. Is the Timeshift icon grayed out on the control panel?

AFAIK, there's no difference in PQ between VMR and overlay. The big difference is between DxVA and the lower-quality SW-rendered modes.

[jldet5]

Hey everyone,

I was wondering if anyone else on here has had any issues with using one HDTV Fusion 5 Gold and one HDTV Fusion Lite in BTV 4.6.1 . BTV only seems to recognize one of my cards. I believe it's the HDTV Fusion 5 Lite that is being recognized at this point. I have tried reinstalling the drivers and have the most recent ones. Also tried reinstalling BTV. Also, I can't get the firefly mini remote to work either if anyone has any suggestions. I meet all requirements I have a P4 3.0, 1gb ram, 256 geforce 6200, 250gb hard drive and Asus P5PE-VM motherboard. I'm running xp home with all the latest updates. Any help would be greatly appreciated thanks.

I did the trial with a gold and gold rt fusion 5. No problem getting the devices recognized. Biggest problem was the automated guide updates did not work. Probably could make it work with an XMLTV update add on but my trial expired and I decided there were enough draw backs not to warrant purchase. Also had problems deleting the recordings from the MYHD app that I use for playback. GBPVR is a little harder to set up right now but once you do and get all the patches in, it seems to be running good the last two weeks.

[uriah]

Currently my setup is doing well on software version 3.5x . I am running xp sp2 and I am wondering if going to version 3.6x offers benefits worth the risk of screwing things up. Just what improvement could I expect with 3.6x

[TPeterson]

Stan, I don't recall all of the differences but the main one that sticks in mind is 3.6x doesn't lock capture files during writing, so that you can begin playback (with a suitable read-only application or network share) before the capture is complete.

[jldet5]

Another one is that the config screens work better on a big screen. May need to play with the 2000 drivers if the default ones don't work out but from what I understand that was not a problem for most?

[KAXKID]

Currently my setup is doing well on software version 3.5x . I am running xp sp2 and I am wondering if going to version 3.6x offers benefits worth the risk of screwing things up. Just what improvement could I expect with 3.6x
the ability to use cwepg 2.1.2.4 is the best reason i can think of.

[Maruuk]

Aha, you have to click on that little clock icon! Cool, thanks TP!

[Maruuk]

Hey, anybody else have a channel missing from their EPG list? Right now one is missing, sometimes more. How do you add it or edit it? Or not...

[KAXKID]

Hey, anybody else have a channel missing from their EPG list? Right now one is missing, sometimes more. How do you add it or edit it? Or not...
after reading your recent posts, it's seems you need to read up on how to run the fusion software in the help file. but to answer your most recent quest, you have to tune each channel you want in the epg, before you get epg info, if it is available. once you close the fusion app, you have to start over again as all that epg info is lost each time the fusion app is closed.

[Maruuk]

Hm, "tune each channel you want in the EPG". That's a curious phrase. Thanks, I'll see if I can figure out how to do that. But since once you auto-tune all your channels in the master channel list once and set it and forget it, why would you need to keep tuning in each channel "in the EPG" everytime you boot up? Why wouldn't the EPG simply load all the channels in your channel list and search for program info at each Fusion boot up automatically?

Sometimes I'll jump into the EPG and there's only one channel in there. Sometimes most of them. But almost never all. I figure it's yet another Fusion bug they'll fix in 6.07 or something.

[TPeterson]

Maruuk, what Steve meant was that the EPG table is only populated with data from the channels that you have actually tuned since starting the FusionHDTV app. And each one only gets updated while you are tuned to that station. So if you've only watched one channel since starting the app, that's the one that will have EPG entries.

Think about it--there's no mystery here, since the data all come from the broadcasters, the card has only one tuner, and you can't receive data from a source that's not tuned in.

[xsdaver]

Everything seems to me working, at last. Well, almost. For some reason, on one machine, at so far, once in a while recordings dont stop. And eventually the app crashes, and no more recordings occur. I am running the latest release, and on three machines. I have only noticed on one, but that is the machine that does the bulk of the recording. I have seen this on recordings programmed with Record This ( a great little program), and on programs set in the FusionHDTV app Anyone else see this? Any fixes? Please...

Thanks

[TPeterson]

"Latest release" == 3.60?

Does that PC have more than one Fusion unit installed?

Is the Fusion tray agent set to exit (or suspend/hibernate) the app after each recording?

[xsdaver]

It has two, a 5 Gold and a 5 Lite. I've seen the problem with both exit after recording and suspend after recording.

[TPeterson]

There are bugs when recording with multiple units (i.e., on PCs with multiple Fusion units, even if only one is involved in recording). DViCo is aware of the problem and working on it.

[xsdaver]

Sigh....

[Maruuk]

Ahhh that's it! Thanks, TP! You have to actually tune-in each station you want in realtime for it to be added to the EPG for that Fusion session. Wow, I guess I got too used to Tivo which just automatically updates all the EPG info for all stations all the time and you can just fire it up and check on what's good tonight. Back to the horse & buggy daze. At least you don't have to shovel up Fusion plops.

[TPeterson]

Maruuk, see the post just above yours for someone who may not agree about the lack of needing a shovel. ;)

BTW, if you want to trade in the h&b for more modern means, give CW_EPG a whirl.

[Maruuk]

I think I was going to try that, but the installation procedure looked even more Soup-Nazi-like than the Fusion process. Think I'll just use my newfound H&B EPG now that I can flog that to do something useful.

I'll be pushing the 2-hour-limit crash test dummy again on Sat & Sun for the Memorial Golf Tournament. Maybe selecting that "current subchannel only" dongle will help. In the bad old days of my cheapas$ graphics card etc running at 1040X980 (or whatever lower res that was) I never had a time limit. Now at 1600X1080 (approximately) it always hits the jitter wall at 2 hours. But I love the resolution. I just set timers up to warn me to "change reels" at 115 minutes.

[tranle]

I have where I live (Comcast Mountain View, CA) the channel KBCW 722 that shows up after a channel scan as D922. But when I close the FusionHDTV application and reopen it, the channel D922 disappear from the channel listing. It is one of the newly added HD channel in QAM non-encrypted.

Does anybody see the same sort of problem ?

I am using version 3.62.01

[NickB]

I'm on Comcast in the bay area also (about 30 minutes north of you) and since the 3.5 beta releases I've lost half of my channels. If I do a full scan they show up in the channel listing tab, but when I go to watch tv they are no where to be found. I'm going to try to revert back to 3.1 or whatever it was and see if that fixes things.

[TPeterson]

Tran and Nick--

I'm using Bay Area Comcast too, and I don't see this problem when using 3.60/3.61. I suggest that you review the KAXKID Procedure and reinstall.

[plat]

anyone using cat 7.5 drivers in vista? since upgrading i cant get a picture with DXVA in VMR mode. :confused:

[TPeterson]

Your chances of getting a useful response will be better if you post in the Vista and Fusion thread.

[kczmudzin]

I have the PCI Fusion 5 Gold with software 3.62.01. The card works just fine for TV watchuing and recording. But I'd like to connect a VCR to it using composite. I've tried everything I could thi