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07-16-07, 07:50 PM
You know.... I know home depot like the back of my hand.... I've never seen this stuff there!
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View Full Version : Blazing Ridge Cinema construction has begun! chinadog 07-16-07, 07:50 PM You know.... I know home depot like the back of my hand.... I've never seen this stuff there! Bud chinadog 07-16-07, 07:51 PM I have used it to organize the mess of wires in my cabinet. It really makes the cabinet seem as if it has a lot more room and helps me when hooking up new devices. I might try to post pictures later if anyone is interested. Thanks for the reply. I think its a pretty economical solution for just that. I;d be interested in seeing some pictures if you've got some. Bud tleavit 07-16-07, 10:14 PM I’m not sure if I’m the only one to say that I would be worried about buying a house on a street called "Blazing Ridge" :) :) :) deewan 07-16-07, 11:33 PM Thanks for the reply. I think its a pretty economical solution for just that. I;d be interested in seeing some pictures if you've got some. Bud Here are a few pictures. If you are interested in more, let me know. I was down stairs tonight hooking up and old DVD player and the PS2, which have not had the cables run through the flew tubing yet, so it still looks kind of messy. But trust me, it is 15 times better than it used to be. Picture 1 which shows the inside of the cabinet http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x105/darrenwander/?action=view¤t=IMG_3490.jpg Picture 2 showing the outside where I have a 3-gang box routing the cables. http://s183.photobucket.com/albums/x105/darrenwander/?action=view¤t=IMG_3491.jpg If you want more, just IM me and I'll email them to you. It is much more easy that way. chinadog 07-17-07, 07:01 AM I’m not sure if I’m the only one to say that I would be worried about buying a house on a street called "Blazing Ridge" :) :) :) You are actually the first! If I lived in Utah or California, that would be an understatement! We did have those fires in South GA/North FL this year, a first as far as I know, bad drought this year. We could smell the smoke from downtown Atlanta. Bud chinadog 07-17-07, 07:04 AM deewan, Looks good! I'm not sure I'm going to do anything with my rack in particular. I helped my boss with his setup, was looking for some black loom to hide the cables form the projector to the ceiling. I also need to find a short power cord for the Panasonic AX100. Seems a be a pain to find since the connector is proprietary. I hate messy wires! Bud deewan 07-17-07, 07:38 AM Bud, one thing I might suggest instead of the loom is to use some wire tape (i have no idea what the brand name is). Basically, it is a semi sticky tape that you can wrap wires with. It makes a group of wires appear to be one solid, slightly more think wire. A friend of mine around here used it on his setup and in applications where it can be seen by others, it has a much better viewing appeal than the loom. I'll see if he can shoot me a pic of his setup so I can show you what I'm talking about. drin 07-17-07, 07:54 AM Bud, one thing I might suggest instead of the loom is to use some wire tape (i have no idea what the brand name is). Basically, it is a semi sticky tape that you can wrap wires with. I Googled 'wire tape' but couldn't find anything relevant. At the risk of sounding silly you're not talking about electrical tape, are you? -drin chinadog 07-17-07, 08:00 AM Thanks for the replies guys. I think I know what you're talking about, but don't know what its called either. I'll poke around. I also just spend the last 15 minutes looking for a short power cord and finally sent off an email to a company that makes them to see how much a two foot cord would cost. We'll see.... Bud chinadog 07-17-07, 08:02 AM Heat shrink is another option, but not thinking it would be a pain in the butt to remove if need be later. http://cableorganizer.com/heat-shrink/heat-shrink4.htm Bud chinadog 07-17-07, 08:03 AM Then there is wrap around: http://images.cableorganizer.com/roundit-open-small.jpg http://cableorganizer.com/woven-wrap/ Bud chinadog 07-17-07, 08:05 AM Spinal wrap: http://images.cableorganizer.com/spiral-wrap-icon2.jpg http://cableorganizer.com/spiral-wrap/index.html Bud BritInVA 07-17-07, 08:08 AM I think deewan is refering to Self Amalgamating Tape. It's basically a non-sticky tape that you stretch as you wrap and it forms a solid sheath. Cheers, Mark mrpergo 07-17-07, 01:56 PM Bud; That wire loom at the Home Depot is in the electrical dept. where wire crimps and nuts ect. are. If I'm not mistaken they have 4 sizes. 3/8,1/2, 3/4 & 1". It comes in different lengths depending on the size. I bought some of each just to have on hand for different projects. I believe the only color available is black, but if you go to a Auto parts supply like PEP Boys you can get red and chrome. chinadog 07-28-07, 05:39 PM Bud; That wire loom at the Home Depot is in the electrical dept. where wire crimps and nuts ect. are. If I'm not mistaken they have 4 sizes. 3/8,1/2, 3/4 & 1". It comes in different lengths depending on the size. I bought some of each just to have on hand for different projects. I believe the only color available is black, but if you go to a Auto parts supply like PEP Boys you can get red and chrome. Cool, thanks. I'm OK with black. Bud chinadog 07-28-07, 05:49 PM I added some rope light to the bar, similar to what Randy did. I used the 1/2 track and double sided tape to secure it. I used rope light under the cabinets as well, plan to do the lights above the cabinets too. BTW, thinking about using license plates again as a back splash. The ones in the photo are extras I had. I would do it under the cabinets as well. http://images27.fotki.com/v966/photos/6/649633/3817012/DSC00333-vi.jpg http://images28.fotki.com/v965/photos/6/649633/3817012/DSC00336-vi.jpg (no, I don't have an old lady in my cabinet... thats a reflection from the TV :p ) I still need to get a glass shelf for the cabinet with glass doors and I want to put some lighting in there as well. Any suggestions? My father-in-law is coming down next weekend, so I have a few electrical tasks for him, including the electric for the fridge in my concession area and another switched outlet for my mylar box (haven't hung that yet). No new light boxes at this point. He's also going to bring the guts to the payphone and get that working. I also ordered a few more poster frames from FrameUSA.com and I bought a few more posters on ebay. I have one wall in the gameroom I want to finish up and I'll use them there. HeyNow^ 07-28-07, 07:46 PM Hey Bud, How about a glass shelf halfway between your cabinet and that gorgeous granite? Maybe some high ball glasses or other stuff? The rope light would see through it to both levels. Just a thought :) chinadog 07-28-07, 08:43 PM Randy, was thinking something there as well. I thought about doing a two tiered bottle shelf, but have been using the cabinet for storage. A shelf with something would look nice, will consider it. Thanks for the idea. Bud chinadog 07-29-07, 08:36 AM Decided to replace my inline fan that pulls air away from the projector. The old inline fan was one of the 4" puppies from BO (Big Orange) and it's rated at 40 CFM. This one is rated at 110 CFM. I noticed that the projector fan would kick into to high at some point during movies and figured this would help some. More piece of mind than anything, I suppose. http://www.unitron-online.com/ProductImages/atticandrooffans/inlinefans/ILF120.jpg http://www.unitron-online.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=182&MMP=1011872300 Bud ebr 07-29-07, 10:38 AM From the picture, it looks like that thing has the potential to create quite a "whooshing" sound of its own... accts4mjs 07-29-07, 02:22 PM Hey Bud, The panasonic whisper fans include several inline models (http://www.prodcat.panasonic.com/shop/newdesign/productcomparison.asp?Action=LIST&CatId=3101) you might look into. I have a regular ceiling version I modified to be inline (before I realized there were inline models) but I must say it is amazingly quiet. Mike Alan Gouger 07-29-07, 03:20 PM I was going to buy that exact in line for my 35mm film projector. I will order it tomorrow and should have it this week. Ill let you know what I think after I get it. chinadog 07-29-07, 04:24 PM From the picture, it looks like that thing has the potential to create quite a "whooshing" sound of its own... Maybe, we'll see. I didn't see a sone rating for the fan itself (it says installed remotely - sound is NA - ha), but the current fan is installed in my workshop, a ways away from the theater room. The flex duct has plenty of bends in it as well. I can't hear the other fan if I'm standing under it either, so hopefully it all works out... I'll post the results. Here's the spec pdf from Nutone, although I had to download in Firefox before opening it for some reason. http://www.nutone.com/PDF/Specifications/ILF120spec.pdf Bud chinadog 07-29-07, 04:27 PM Hey Bud, The panasonic whisper fans include several inline models (http://www.prodcat.panasonic.com/shop/newdesign/productcomparison.asp?Action=LIST&CatId=3101) you might look into. I have a regular ceiling version I modified to be inline (before I realized there were inline models) but I must say it is amazingly quiet. Mike Mike, I didn't realize they had made inlines either. I think since it's so far from the theater, this will work fine. Since I already ordered it, I hope so at least! Good to know there is an inline whisper version for future reference. Thanks for the link. Bud chinadog 07-29-07, 04:28 PM I was going to buy that exact in line for my 35mm film projector. I will order it tomorrow and should have it this week. Ill let you know what I think after I get it. Alan, thanks for the post. I'll do the same. I expect I'll have it by mid week. Bud ebr 07-29-07, 06:13 PM Bud - I doubt the fan itself is going to be a source of any noise. Its just that with the fan so much larger than the pipe its pulling air through, I would think the possibility exists for the air rushing through the intake to make noise. Do you have a flared intake so that it is larger than the ductwork as well? In any case - sorry If I've made you fret unnecessarily... chinadog 07-29-07, 08:28 PM Yeah, I understood what you were saying. I have a 4x10 register vent attached at the projector. I was concerned about noise from the fan through the ductwork more than the "woosh", but again, we'll see. Bud dc_pilgrim 07-31-07, 11:20 AM Hey Bud, I know it was a while ago, but do you remember what size shelf you used for your yamaha receiver? It looks like its 4U, but the custom database says 5U. I need to get a few shelves ordered. chinadog 07-31-07, 12:05 PM Dave, off the top of my head, I think I bought 2U,3U and 4U shelves, but I can verify it when I get home from work. I should have an email from Worthington somewhere. You might want to look at the dimensions of the receiver. What model are you looking at? The 2600 dimensions (W x H x D) are 17-1/8" x 6-3/4" x 17-1/4" Based on this link, I suspect I bought a 4U. Plus it's on the top shelf, so there is some extra space above that that is "not shelve-able" because of the vent plate. http://www.middleatlantic.com/rackac/storage/shelves2.htm Bud dc_pilgrim 07-31-07, 01:50 PM Thanks Bud, I have the v661 - it is the almost the same dimensions as the V2600 (2600 is deeper). I was leaning towards the 4U, can't justify the extra coin for the custom shelves since it is a budget receiver that may get swapped out when the tech settles down a little. Need shelves for that and the PS3 to get things operational (and a screenwall built). chinadog 07-31-07, 06:06 PM Dave, did you use a Slim 5 rack? if you have it as the top shelf, a 4U should be fine. In the picture below you can see how much extra room there is at the top. If you use a 4U and put the receiver on the top, you got some room to play. If you're moving it further down, you might not have the airflow you'd need. http://images115.fotki.com/v663/photos/6/649633/3055203/DCP_2232-vi.jpg I'm home now, so here's what I got from Worthington (in attachment). Bud dc_pilgrim 07-31-07, 10:55 PM Bud, I am just rails, but I plan to put a 1U vent spacer between my heat generating components (at least until I need the space). Thanks for taking a look. Pretty nice prices at worthington back in the day. Hmm. Time to order some shelves, spend some money. . . chinadog 08-01-07, 12:02 AM Alan and Eric, I got notice that my Nutone fan will arrive tomorrow. I have dinner plans, but will try and get it installed tomorrow night. Curious on its performance and of course the whooshing factor. :p Bud jspielmann 08-01-07, 02:20 PM I have a Nutone in my equpment closet and it does a great job. I purchased the larger model and it does pull quite a bit of air from the room. You can barely hear it run so I purchased three more for my bathrooms. They work great! accts4mjs 08-01-07, 02:23 PM Where do you pull the air to? Outside or back into the return ducts? What's the effect on the temperature in the room? The reason I ask is I've noticed that with my fan on (exhausts outside) and the A/C fan "on" (vs auto) it still warms up a bit in my room. However if I turn the fan on and just click the A/C temp down one degree (but leave the A/C fan on "auto") it seems to do better. I don't have a hush box for my PJ yet and hope that'll improve performance (I pull air from the closet and the PJ). Just curious... Thanks, Mike chinadog 08-01-07, 02:25 PM I have a Nutone in my equpment closet and it does a great job. I purchased the larger model and it does pull quite a bit of air from the room. You can barely hear it run so I purchased three more for my bathrooms. They work great! Thanks for the reply. I have a Nutone fan in my equipment closet as well (pictured above), just not an inline. My only quip is that I put the flapper on and you can hear that if your in the equipment area (not in the HT room though). Since it vents to my workshop, not sure what I was thinking, but nothing that keeps me up at night. Bud chinadog 08-01-07, 02:26 PM BTW, I just got home and missed the UPS guy. They want me to sign for it in person for some reason, so no fan today. Bud chinadog 08-01-07, 03:17 PM Where do you pull the air to? Outside or back into the return ducts? What's the effect on the temperature in the room? The reason I ask is I've noticed that with my fan on (exhausts outside) and the A/C fan "on" (vs auto) it still warms up a bit in my room. However if I turn the fan on and just click the A/C temp down one degree (but leave the A/C fan on "auto") it seems to do better. I don't have a hush box for my PJ yet and hope that'll improve performance (I pull air from the closet and the PJ). Just curious... Thanks, Mike Mike, I pull the air out of the projector box and out of the equipment closet through separate ducts to my workshop/mechanical room on the other side of the bar area. I thought about venting outside, but my foundation is all stone and I didn't want another hole in the side of the house. I also thought about "T"ing it with the bathroom fan, but you can image the downside to that... During the summer I'll also leave the fan "on" which helps circulate the air. Bud chinadog 08-02-07, 10:15 AM I was just about to walk out the door when one of the DOGS start barking, and sure enough it was UPS. My fan arrived. Unlikely I'll install it tonight though, but definitely in the next day or so. Bud ebr 08-02-07, 10:48 AM I was just about to walk out the door when one of the doors starting barking, and sure enough it was UPS. My fan arrived. Unlikely I'll install it tonight though, but definitely in the next day or so. Bud Wow. I've heard of people going overboard with automation but you're the first one I've heard of that has trained their doors to bark. Especially with that undersized bear you have in the house already - I wouldn't think that would be necessary... ;) ronnie_jackson 08-02-07, 02:57 PM Where can I get one of those barking doors. A quick search on smarthome.com brought no results..... :D Just had to rib ya on that one!! Keep up the good work Bud. Ronnie chinadog 08-02-07, 03:16 PM Come'on guys, don't you all have one of these? It's mounted on my door! Those Shepherds in the pictures are just stuffed. http://www.shopfromyourhome.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/Rex.gif The Barking Dog Alarm is an excellent Home Alarm or Security Alarm System REX barking dog alarm is a high tech deterrent for burglars. This electronic watch dog home alarm viciously barks like an aggressive German Shepherd. The barking dog alarm also has a combo mode of the barking watch dog with an alarm system siren. http://www.shopfromyourhome.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=REX&Category_Code=Personal_Protection Bud ronnie_jackson 08-02-07, 03:53 PM Come'on guys, don't you all have one of these? It's mounted on my door! Those Shepherds in the pictures are just stuffed. http://www.shopfromyourhome.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/Rex.gif The Barking Dog Alarm is an excellent Home Alarm or Security Alarm System REX barking dog alarm is a high tech deterrent for burglars. This electronic watch dog home alarm viciously barks like an aggressive German Shepherd. The barking dog alarm also has a combo mode of the barking watch dog with an alarm system siren. http://www.shopfromyourhome.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=REX&Category_Code=Personal_Protection Bud LOL, that cracked me up. Leave it to you to find something like that :D The add says "Rex contains motion sensing radar which penetrates through walls, doors, glass, etc. and senses movement up to 25 feet away." I wonder how that actually works? Ronnie chinadog 08-02-07, 04:04 PM Ronnie, love the fact they put a .wav file out there with a sample bark. "SOUNDS LIKE AN ANGRY GUARD DOG" it says... http://www.shopfromyourhome.com/Merchant2/RexBarkingDog.wav Imagine, a complete home security system to chase away burglars for the special price of 74.99 (plus s/h)! Bud BritInVA 08-02-07, 06:10 PM And it beats Poopper Scoopping :eek: strange_brew 08-02-07, 07:29 PM And it beats Poopper Scoopping :eek:LOL! chinadog 08-04-07, 02:08 PM Scooping doesn't cost me anything, its the other end that I costs me money every month! 200 lbs of Shepherds = lots o' dog food. Bud chinadog 08-04-07, 02:16 PM Installed the Nutone fan this morning, works like a charm. Much more airflow than the other cheapo fan and I can't hear the fan at all. I can hear only a very slight whoosh when the fan is running and nothing else is on in the theater room. Pretty happy with the result, I expect it'll suck some warm air out of the room as well. Bud chinadog 08-10-07, 10:29 PM So just a follow-up to the Nutone fan. I've been in the theater pretty much every night this week watching movies with my father-in-law. I am happy to report that I have not heard the AE900 fan kick into high once this week. I guess the extra CFMs pulls the heat away enough to keep it cooler than it was. Sure, it was 5 times more costly than the other fan (25.00 vs 125.00), but it'll probably add some more life to the projector hopefully as well. Definitely money well spent. I haven't noticed any whooshing either. Bud accts4mjs 08-11-07, 01:35 AM How's the temperature in the room? Was your room heating up before? If so is it noticeably cooler now? Thanks, Mike chinadog 08-11-07, 08:13 AM Mike, It could get warm this time of year, it's been 100+ the last couple of days especially, and it was actually pretty good in there. I tend to use the AC in the basement and run the HVAC fan while watching movies anyway. I have on return in the HT room and one supply. I have another supply in the concession area (I tend to leave that door open during movies) as well. With the fan in the closet and now with the additional pull from the projector box, it's pleasant. Bud chinadog 08-12-07, 03:15 PM A couple of updates. My father-in-law installed an outlet for me and I was able to hook up the fridge. http://images28.fotki.com/v974/photos/6/649633/5269592/DSC00347-vi.jpg http://images27.fotki.com/v980/photos/6/649633/5269592/DSC00348-vi.jpg He also installed a switched outlet for my mylar box. Its an insteon switch, but planning on giving it an X10 address. Wanted to play with it some. I still have install the back box and run the rope light like my poster boxes. http://images27.fotki.com/v981/photos/6/649633/5269592/DSC00351-vi.jpg I picked up this bullet trash can at Target. Love it. http://images28.fotki.com/v979/photos/6/649633/5269592/DSC00349-vi.jpg I installed a light that I had sitting around (bought from Ikea some time ago) above my rack so I don't have to light the whole room during a movie. I need to flip the base on it so it's not hanging over the casing, but no biggie. Works like a champ. http://images27.fotki.com/v981/photos/6/649633/5269592/DSC00350-vi.jpg Bud chinadog 08-12-07, 03:20 PM Been working on a small yard tool shed here and there. It's just outside my workshop. It's just for some tools (weed whacker and edger) and all the yard chemicals and gas containers. I just did all the trim, corner boards and door today. This week I'll caulk it all and next weekend I'll paint it, attach the door and put some shingles on the roof. Oh yeah and need to install some shelves on that right side. Anyone know where to get some decent levelling feet? Maybe galvanized? I need to get it off the ground a little. http://images27.fotki.com/v972/photos/6/649633/5269594/DSC00342-vi.jpg http://images28.fotki.com/v979/photos/6/649633/5269594/DSC00345-vi.jpg Bud mbgonzomd 08-12-07, 09:19 PM Anyone know where to get some decent levelling feet? Maybe galvanized? I need to get it off the ground a little. Hockey Pucks??? :D chinadog 08-13-07, 07:39 AM Great idea, although probably a little too high. I will go look at my son's Thrashers puck to double check though! :D Bud swithey 08-13-07, 11:06 AM Bud, Nice job on the shed! How large it it? I also have a shed on my list to store the lawn mower, edger, weed-eater, shovels, etc. I'll get to that later this year if I can find the time. I'm working on some shelves right now in my garage to clean things up a bit. It just got to the point I had to do it or commit suicide :rolleyes: I'm off to Walmart tonight to purchase some clear bins. It will be nice to walk to my workbench without tripping over everything. chinadog 08-13-07, 11:29 AM Steve, Thanks. Its about 24 inches deep, 48 inches wide and about 84 inches tall in the front, 96 in the back. Interior is a little smaller due to framing, obviously. I constrained it to the size of the siding (4x8) so I would have a lot of scrap and piecemeal. It's large enough for what I wanted to do. My mower is a Snapper ride on and I don't have a good place to put a large shed at this point. It'll side where it is basically, which is under my deck, under the screen in area. Bud BIGmouthinDC 08-13-07, 11:51 AM one alternative http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=5217&filter=leveling%20feet Here is a very simple one in stainless steel: http://www.carrlane.com/Catalog/index.cfm/27825071F0B221118070C1C513E111D081B0006280B1713050245221E010 7070F1A3C3B285350415D chinadog 08-13-07, 12:52 PM Big, thanks for the help. The first might be a little tall based on the specs. I did see the second one, they make a non swivel versions as well. I wasn't sure how to order from the company, I guess I should call. Hockey pucks still might be an option as well. :p Bud chinadog 08-15-07, 09:33 PM So I hung my mylar box last night. Here are a couple of shots. Two things to do still. Cut out the extra electrical cord. Need to make it shorter and splice it. In the Shark Tale mylar, you can see the cord up against it if you really look. Too bulky. I didn't use a diffuser on this box, I just Scotch taped the mylars to the back of the outside box. I also need to set the X10 address on the dimmer so I can program in to my scenes on the Powelinc. I still have a few tweaks I want to do still on the scenes. http://images28.fotki.com/v987/photos/6/649633/3813965/DSC00354-vi.jpg http://images27.fotki.com/v984/photos/6/649633/3813965/DSC00353-vi.jpg chinadog 08-15-07, 09:56 PM BTW, Once I bang out this shed project, I'll move on to the poker table. I still haven't abandoned my marquee build either. I'll get back to that in the fall. Bud johnson_sb 08-15-07, 10:09 PM Hey Bud, what are you using to program your Insteons? I have the ControLinc Maxi (http://www.smarthome.com/4071.html) from Smarthome and program them in X10 mode, but it's really a pain to tweak the scenes. I went with X10 scenes because there was no IR -> Insteon converter available, at least at the time. chinadog 08-16-07, 06:47 AM Steve, this is my first time playing with an Insteon dimmer. I bought 5 of the 2876s from Smarthome since there were half price at the time. All the other dimmers are X-10. I used the software that came with the PowerLinc controller at the time I was trying to control scenes. http://www.smarthome.com/2876db.html You might recall my poor man's GE diagram I did: http://images112.fotki.com/v587/photos/6/649633/2311872/Hometheaterlightcontrol-vi.jpg And here is the shot of the Smarthome Manager software that comes with the Powerlinc controller for the scene setup I did: http://images28.fotki.com/v979/photos/6/649633/3402899/orPowerLincControllrtforHTRoom-vi.jpg chinadog 08-16-07, 10:43 PM Poster frames from FrameUSA came today. I got my posters installed and hung up in the gameroom. http://images27.fotki.com/v982/photos/6/649633/3817012/DSC00357-vi.jpg Bud swithey 08-16-07, 11:17 PM Bud, The picture on the right looks a little high ;) :D Posters look great. Hell, everything looks great!! Do you have a front shot of your entire "completed" rack? I'm thinking of cutting a hole into my wet bar (which shares a wall with my equipment closet) for my equipment. How much would you say you spent on the professional rack solution (with the blanks, shelves, power strip, etc)? I think I may just build something myself to save the $$ with a glass door on front to help control equipment noise. I will also install some vents above and below the rack to "passively" dissipate the heat from that equipment room (which has a dedicated AC supply). BTW -- how did the shed turn out? Any new pics? W00lly 08-16-07, 11:28 PM Bud I surfed a bit on that site with the metal feet and there is a Swiftsure Certified Distributor in atlanta. look on the bottom of the page http://ecom.carrlane.com/distributors/georgia.html Rowlander 08-17-07, 04:41 AM Wow. I´m so impressed by all the things you are building and coming up with. This is the kind of hometheater I wish I will own some day myself. At least I have the same panasonic-projector as you. :) Looking through this thread really makes me wish I knew how to "build stuff". I have very little experience or knowledge about these things. I wouldn´t even know where to begin so I don´t know if I will ever be able to get where you are already unless I invest a huge amount of money into a team of carpenters. :rolleyes: There is a little thing I would do different though: When I build my own "real" hometheater some day (hopefully) I will build a cinemascope-screen with black curtains on both sides to change it from 21:9 to 16:9. Watch projected cinemascope full screen. That´s one of my deams. :o But I´m a looong way from getting that. Post some wide photos of the room some day, I´d like to see how far finished it is now. Any way enjoy your home theater, you really earned it! chinadog 08-17-07, 06:42 AM Bud, The picture on the right looks a little high ;) :D Posters look great. Hell, everything looks great!! Do you have a front shot of your entire "completed" rack? I'm thinking of cutting a hole into my wet bar (which shares a wall with my equipment closet) for my equipment. How much would you say you spent on the professional rack solution (with the blanks, shelves, power strip, etc)? I think I may just build something myself to save the $$ with a glass door on front to help control equipment noise. I will also install some vents above and below the rack to "passively" dissipate the heat from that equipment room (which has a dedicated AC supply). BTW -- how did the shed turn out? Any new pics? Hey Steve, You are correct, the right frame is up a hair. You guys are good! Got lazy and will adjust this weekend. It's all the add ons that add up, not the rack itself. The rack was about 210.00. The shelves I recently posted the pricing for a few posts back, that was like 300.00. I bought a bunch of blanks and a drawer, screws, cable organizers, etc on ebay. Probably another 300.00 there. Not cheap, for sure, but I'm happy with the result. The shed is still where it is in the pictures. I need to get a new caulk gun this weekend and I'll hopefully have it all painted before Monday. Bud chinadog 08-17-07, 06:43 AM Bud I surfed a bit on that site with the metal feet and there is a Swiftsure Certified Distributor in atlanta. look on the bottom of the page http://ecom.carrlane.com/distributors/georgia.html Hey, thanks! Looks like on in Roswell and Marietta too. Bud chinadog 08-17-07, 06:56 AM Wow. I´m so impressed by all the things you are building and coming up with. This is the kind of hometheater I wish I will own some day myself. At least I have the same panasonic-projector as you. :) Looking through this thread really makes me wish I knew how to "build stuff". I have very little experience or knowledge about these things. I wouldn´t even know where to begin so I don´t know if I will ever be able to get where you are already unless I invest a huge amount of money into a team of carpenters. :rolleyes: There is a little thing I would do different though: When I build my own "real" hometheater some day (hopefully) I will build a cinemascope-screen with black curtains on both sides to change it from 21:9 to 16:9. Watch projected cinemascope full screen. That´s one of my deams. :o But I´m a looong way from getting that. Post some wide photos of the room some day, I´d like to see how far finished it is now. Any way enjoy your home theater, you really earned it! Rowlander, thanks. Half the battle to doing anything is the right tools. I'm no carpenter, I'm an experimenter. I just try and figure out how to do things. All these side projects, they're all just wood and nails! I purposely didn't go 2.35:1 for this room due to the width. I watch a lot of movies, but also enjoy HDTV down there. I think if I only used the room for movies, I would consider that route. Since I'm maxed out width wise for the screen, I don't gain much going 2:35:1 except losing the black bars on some movies. The con is that I'd gain them back on HDTV. My next theater hopefully will be larger so I'll have more flexibility. No room for curtains currently either, although that's a particular look and would have to be just right for me. The theater room hasn't really changed much at this point, I still have a star ceiling bug in my head. My concession area has changed some and the game room is evolving still. I guess I should post some general or "whole" room shots. Bud HeyNow^ 08-17-07, 08:11 AM Bud, Did you read Sandman's comments on his star ceiling? I think he implied that it really was becoming a distraction and wasn't really worth it. Maybe I'm taking his comments our of context. Anyway, all of your work has been really classy. Nice color scheme, excellent trim work and I like your style choice for posters. Your skills are really shining through in all of your projects. chinadog 08-17-07, 08:19 AM Hey Randy. I do remember seeing him comment from him on that subject. It might be me, but his ceiling looks great and is really bright. Not sure if its the size of the fiber or the number of stars. Or maybe because the photos mostly show his blue rope light on full tilt, so I can understand that it could be a distraction. Dunno. I'm a ways from starting that project, but would like to hear from some of the other guys that have recently done it (Steve, Mark, etc). My area would be much smaller, something like 9x10 since I have that large soffit in the back room. It's starting to come together. Thanks for the comments! Bud HeyNow^ 08-17-07, 08:22 AM I saw someone build a star ceiling that actually looked like a widow. It was hung a bit down from the ceiling. It was smaller and I thought it looked really nice. We all look forward to the pics of your next project! swithey 08-17-07, 10:44 AM I saw someone build a star ceiling that actually looked like a widow. It was hung a bit down from the ceiling. It was smaller and I thought it looked really nice. We all look forward to the pics of your next project! Randy, Mine is either the one you are talking about or something similar. I'll make sure and post some pics soon. I still need to make a few adjustments. As far as the stars being a distraction, it can be if you are not careful. I got this new LED based light unit (http://www.fiberopticproducts.com/Coolsky_light_unit.htm) and it has 15 different twinkle settings and allows you to control the speed and brightness of the light as well. If they twinkle too much (like a full random on/off of the stars), it is VERY distracting during a movie. I chose a setting that just slightly dims the stars in/out (random patterns) and that does the trick. It is not distracting at all -- just very cool when sitting in your seat! I recommend it for the WOW factor. The kids always bring their friends up to show it off. My setup only cost me about $300 (out the door) for the fiber, light box, fabric and wood. I have 192 stars (4-bundles of their 48 strand multi-sized fiber setup - EG-PACK48 (http://www.fiberopticproducts.com/Endglow.htm)) in a 8.5' x 5.5' ceiling section. calv1n 08-17-07, 11:19 AM Bud, Looking forward to the whole room photos :) I'm also watching this thread closely for your star ceiling project to see how you handle it (and to see if I want to attempt something like this as well after I deal with this HA stuff). Always a pleasure to stop by and learn from your build. Cheers Calvin ebr 08-17-07, 12:22 PM Wow. I´m so impressed by all the things you are building and coming up with. This is the kind of hometheater I wish I will own some day myself. At least I have the same panasonic-projector as you. :) Looking through this thread really makes me wish I knew how to "build stuff". I have very little experience or knowledge about these things. I wouldn´t even know where to begin so I don´t know if I will ever be able to get where you are already unless I invest a huge amount of money into a team of carpenters. :rolleyes: ... Rowlander - don't be daunted. Dive in and try some stuff. I think you'll be surprised by what you can accomplish. I had barely ever driven a nail before my first room. Watching the guys build that one gave me the confidence to try to do more on the second room and then almost all of it on the third. Now I've built a tree house for the kids: http://www.reedsplace.com/ReedsTreeHouse/slides/New Rail.JPG (haven't quite finished the roof yet) and done lots of other little projects around the house that I never would have thought I could do. I don't think my craftmanship would stand the scrutiny that Bud's and some other guys out here would but if I can do this stuff then just about anyone can. Go for it. (and go for the 2.35 too ;)). tleavit 08-17-07, 12:25 PM Rowlander - don't be daunted. Dive in and try some stuff. I think you'll be surprised by what you can accomplish. I had barely ever driven a nail before my first room. Watching the guys build that one gave me the confidence to try to do more on the second room and then almost all of it on the third. Now I've built a tree house for the kids: http://www.reedsplace.com/ReedsTreeHouse/slides/New Rail.JPG (haven't quite finished the roof yet) and done lots of other little projects around the house that I never would have thought I could do. I don't think my craftmanship would stand the scrutiny that Bud's and some other guys out here would but if I can do this stuff then just about anyone can. Go for it. (and go for the 2.35 too ;)). What kind of AV equipment you gonna put in that bad boy :) HeyNow^ 08-17-07, 01:02 PM Steve, Yep that's the one I was talking about. Love it. ebr, I see some potential sound isolation issues with that tree house.... chinadog 08-17-07, 05:17 PM Steve, I'll be pinging you as I move on the star ceiling. I think I would have to do multiple panels and need to deal with the cans. Was thinking of doing it such that it looks like a window with stained crown and wood sections like a window pane, similar to yours. I saw that LED source and was curious how it worked. That's the way to go, huh? Bud chinadog 08-17-07, 05:25 PM Bud, Looking forward to the whole room photos :) I'm also watching this thread closely for your star ceiling project to see how you handle it (and to see if I want to attempt something like this as well after I deal with this HA stuff). Always a pleasure to stop by and learn from your build. Cheers Calvin Calvin, I'd try and post some stuff over the next two weeks, the weekend is filling up quickly so I might not get to it for another week. The ceiling maybe be a spring project, so stay tuned. Juggling a few things and expect I'll have some more balls thrown into the mix. I have an idea how I want to proceed, so maybe I can at least find some time to plan things and drawn something up. BTW, things are looking great from your side as well! Bud swithey 08-17-07, 05:26 PM Steve, I'll be pinging you as I move on the star ceiling. I think I would have to do multiple panels and need to deal with the cans. Was thinking of doing it such that it looks like a window with stained crown and wood sections like a window pane, similar to yours. I saw that LED source and was curious how it worked. That's the way to go, huh? Bud Yes, that LED source is great with lots of flexibility, silent operation and NO heat issues. Hopefully Ronnie Jackson will be doing his soon so we'll have another review for that unit. Ping away with you are ready. chinadog 08-17-07, 05:30 PM Rowlander - don't be daunted. Dive in and try some stuff. I absolutely agree with this, its not rocket science, think about the guys you hire to do this work! Here is my philosophy on this (really my father in laws, but I believe!).... Half the battle is having the right tools to make it simple, the other part is a little know how and common sense. When you need a tool, buy it! This way you have it for the next time you need it. If its too expensive or if its a one time only tool, you can always rent. The good news in most cases is that if you screw something up, you can always redo it since its materials only (you supply the labor) and it would still be cheaper than hiring someone. Plus, if you screw up, at least you learned what not to do next time! Oh, and nice treehouse! Bud chinadog 08-17-07, 10:13 PM Bud, The picture on the right looks a little high ;) FIXED! :D Bud Papajin 08-17-07, 11:59 PM FIXED! :D Bud I dunno, I just went back and looked at the picture again, and I swear it still looks too high! :p chinadog 08-18-07, 04:37 AM I dunno, I just went back and looked at the picture again, and I swear it still looks too high! :p LOL... wise guy! :D Bud chinadog 08-18-07, 06:44 PM So I caulked the shed today in preparation for painting. I had bought two tubes of caulk. I used the first tube on the shed and had to open the second for the door. One slight problem though. When I grabbed the second tube, I grabbed the wrong one on my workbench. I ended up grabbing the one that was white pure silicon, which is not paintable.:mad: It dried in no time flat and I didn't realize it until I went back to smooth out the bead! So I ended up pulling it all off, cutting my finger in the process. Took like an hour. What a pain in the butt. It's drying now (including the new door caulk) and I'll probably do a first coat of paint in the morning. Bud tleavit 08-18-07, 07:01 PM Hey China, Im just about at that point now also. What kind of caulk should I buy to seal up the botom area under the sheetrock near the floor and such? chinadog 08-18-07, 07:11 PM I took a quick look at your thread. Besides insulation, did you do any soundproofing techniques? Is it a concern? The reason I ask is if your not concerned about sound leakage, I wouldn't even bother. Looks like they did a decent job. If you are, there is acoustical caulk out there, although you'd want to caulk in a bunch of places, not just the where the wall and floor meet. Since I wasn't too concerned with leakage myself, I didn't caulk the area where the wall met the floor. I'm sure others that do more in the soundproofing area will chime in. Looking good, BTW. Bud accts4mjs 08-18-07, 10:44 PM You've pretty much covered it. If you're soundproofing then you caulk EVERYTHING. If you don't the smallest hole will leak sound like a sieve. I'm not kidding. It was surprising how much sound got out a small hole I cut in my wall for a speaker cable until I plugged it. Mike PS. Bud, sorry about the caulk mishap, those kinds of things happen to me ALL the time. I have total empathy for you :( chinadog 08-18-07, 10:55 PM Hey, thanks Mike. You live and you learn.... Bud JBLsound4645 08-18-07, 10:59 PM Rowlander - don't be daunted. Dive in and try some stuff. I think you'll be surprised by what you can accomplish. I had barely ever driven a nail before my first room. Watching the guys build that one gave me the confidence to try to do more on the second room and then almost all of it on the third. Now I've built a tree house for the kids: http://www.reedsplace.com/ReedsTreeHouse/slides/New Rail.JPG (haven't quite finished the roof yet) and done lots of other little projects around the house that I never would have thought I could do. I don't think my craftmanship would stand the scrutiny that Bud's and some other guys out here would but if I can do this stuff then just about anyone can. Go for it. (and go for the 2.35 too ;)). LOL That’s not the word’s famous Empire cinema at London. However this one is!! http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/47069/288071.jpg http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/47069/288073.jpg http://forum.ecoustics.com/bbs/messages/47069/288072.jpg Seems like you guys need some real inspiration of what a cinema looks like! :p JBLsound4645 08-18-07, 11:26 PM Here's my first cut at the stage and proscenium. I'm still figuring out dimensions, colors and all that stuff. The top picture is a look from above. I want to have a curved stage, probably with one step. It's a pretty simple design. It shows a sub on both sides, but I'll probably will go with only one. I'll probably tweak it and add the dimensions over the next week or so. All comments, suggestions and criticism welcome! http://images12.fotki.com/v240/photos/6/649633/2875265/topstage2-vi.jpg http://images15.fotki.com/v234/photos/6/649633/2875265/Frontstage3-vi.jpg Bud EDIT: I adjusted the bottom drawing since it looked compressed and broke the one drawing into two. EDIT 2: Gary's recommendation. WRONG! That is not how loudspeakers are positioned in home cinema! You’ve been reading too much trash in the magazines. Loudspeakers are positioned with matching sets for LCR and they should be positioned about 2/3 screen height, why can’t anyone do it RIGHT! Sorry mate you need to start over again. Good marks for the rest of the design too bad about the screen speakers, and I’ve heard all the excesses by lots of people on so many sites. chinadog 08-19-07, 07:42 AM JBLsound4645, This diagram was for illustration/design purposes for the screen wall and stage, not necessary absolute speaker position. In fact, I was thinking of different colors for the proscenium. Grey was one of the options before I went all black. For actual location, I read here on AVS that the tweeter needs to be at ear level (might have been Dennis or perceived to be Dennis). Sorry, no mags! In my case, it's about a 1/3 of the screen height. Thats what I did right or wrong. Also, I didn't use an AT screen so I had to make a compromise and put the center channel below. Many of the folks here without AT prefer above the screen, but I had no room to do so. I think if I had not been further along at the time, I would had gone SmX and that would helped. It would be helpful if you had a link to the information about your speaker location position so that others might learn from it. Most rooms have some compromise. My room isn't as big as I would have liked. You have to make trade-offs based on what's more important to you. In my case, it's not just height, but closeness to the wall since I wanted a larger screen. I'm actually very happy the sound of my room. Could it be better? Probably. Could raising the speakers some help? Maybe. I do have the flexibility to move them higher behind the panels, so maybe I'll see if there is a difference. Thanks for the post. EDIT on 08/12/08: Adding his construction thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=995892) as a "reference" a year after I discovered it. ;) Bud chinadog 08-19-07, 10:34 AM I think Mark might have suggested this, didn't get chance to check. I've started an index of areas of interest in this thread for my installs, techniques, products, etc. I updated the first post to include this. I've only scratched the surface here, but if you have specific stuff you deem is worthy in this thread and think it needs an entry in the first post, let me know. Also, before, when linking to a specific post in a thread, you'd get a new window and that post would scroll to the top of the window. You'd still have all the other posts surrounding it. Seems now that you only get than one post, which is problematic since there are discussions surrounding that post. I guess that happened with the new changes this weekend. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5760667#post5760667 I also noticed as I went through the thread that some photos were missing, not sure why, but I'll try and fix those. Bud BritInVA 08-19-07, 10:48 AM Bud the mylar box looks great......agree with steve that right poster still looks a little high :D Cheers, Mark aaron_hinni 08-19-07, 11:16 AM I think Mark might have suggested this, didn't get chance to check. I've started an index of areas of interest in this thread for my installs, techniques, products, etc... That is awesome that you are doing this. I would love to see others with the large reference threads do the same. Although I imagine it to be a fair amount of work, it will save others a ton of search time though. As far as the links taking you to a single post and losing the context, I just found a couple of work arounds. On the far right of the "View Single Post" title bar there is a link to the Thread... this link takes you to the post with all the surrounding context. If you wanted to take the time, it looks like you could change all of your links ending in p=POSTNUMBER&postcount=COUNT to p=POSTNUMBER#postPOSTNUMBER. chinadog 08-19-07, 11:39 AM Aaron, Cool thanks. I'll update all my links. I had posted a question to David Bott before on the subject to see if there was a way to override, was waiting on a response. I'll give your method a try. Bud chinadog 08-19-07, 12:00 PM Aaron, did you try this since the upgrade? Doesn't seem to work for me. Here's what I'm doing: Here is how it's now implemented: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=6946796&postcount=666 Here is how the old way worked (granted this is the archive forum): http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7285060&&#post7285060 So if I use this old convention, for the upper post, I get: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=6946796&&#post6946796 which gives me one post still. Based on your post, I tried: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=6946796#post6946796 and it still comes back with a single post (also say Single Post in the title of the new window!) Did I miss something? Bud chinadog 08-19-07, 12:05 PM Looks like this format works though: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11330025&posted=1#post11330025 Bud aaron_hinni 08-19-07, 12:05 PM Did I miss something? Looks like I did. Change the showpost to showthread... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6946796#post6946796 chinadog 08-19-07, 12:10 PM Ah, that's the ticket. Thanks. I went back and changed the initial links. Bud chinadog 08-20-07, 08:35 AM Bud the mylar box looks great......agree with steve that right poster still looks a little high :D Cheers, Mark Thanks Mark! I think it may be time to pull that picture ... ;) Bud chinadog 08-22-07, 08:20 AM Hey guys... made some decent progress in the index to this thread. Still got a lot of work to do (especially on the product side), but wanted to make sure what I did was useful. I think it is for people looking for something quick that might not know what something is called or is a search newbie. Please take a look at the first thread, scroll down to the index and let me know what you think: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=5760667#post5760667 Bud John Martin 08-22-07, 08:29 AM Bud, Your thread is one the most viewed at my home and that is a HUGE help in finding information on your build. Well done. John chinadog 08-22-07, 08:47 AM John, thanks. Any suggestions on the format or anything? I've trying to group links where I can even though the actually work may be across multiple pages. Does that work? Bud mbgonzomd 08-22-07, 09:29 AM WRONG! That is not how loudspeakers are positioned in home cinema! You’ve been reading too much trash in the magazines. Loudspeakers are positioned with matching sets for LCR and they should be positioned about 2/3 screen height, why can’t anyone do it RIGHT! Sorry mate you need to start over again. Good marks for the rest of the design too bad about the screen speakers, and I’ve heard all the excesses by lots of people on so many sites. That is pleasant:mad:. Bud, I commend you on your diplomacy. You thread is one of the most useful on this forum...even if your speaker placement is an utter disaster:D. The links at the beginning of your thread is a great idea. It will be a very useful tool for the newbies. dc_pilgrim 08-22-07, 09:47 AM Bud - That index is great. I'd suggest moving it to a separate post e.g. Post #3 (Chirpie quotes it entirely in post#4 anyways), then add a direct link to the "thread index" as a second line to your sig. Between your index and Ruben organizing his thread onto his forum, a lot of good stuff is easy to find newbies or long-time readers alike. swithey 08-22-07, 10:26 AM Bud, I was planning to do the same thing with my thread once everything was completed. Good job. I'll be borrowing a few ideas from yours :) chinadog 08-22-07, 10:28 AM That is pleasant:mad:. Bud, I commend you on your diplomacy. You thread is one of the most useful on this forum...even if your speaker placement is an utter disaster:D. The links at the beginning of your thread is a great idea. It will be a very useful tool for the newbies. Thanks man. I'm all for opposing positions done tactfully and with some sort of meat on the bone .... would be nice to have had some information besides a flame. Thats me. I'm here to learn from others as well. Bud chinadog 08-22-07, 10:33 AM Bud - That index is great. I'd suggest moving it to a separate post e.g. Post #3 (Chirpie quotes it entirely in post#4 anyways), then add a direct link to the "thread index" as a second line to your sig. Between your index and Ruben organizing his thread onto his forum, a lot of good stuff is easy to find newbies or long-time readers alike. Dave, I know where you're going and I'll take a look at this more closely. I was trying to take the word "INDEX" in the first post and make that an anchor take so I could link directly in the middle of the post, but my first cut at it failed miserably. Anyone how I can add an anchor tag? I didn't think of the sig link, good idea. Bud chinadog 08-22-07, 10:35 AM Bud, I was planning to do the same thing with my thread once everything was completed. Good job. I'll be borrowing a few ideas from yours :) Thanks Steve. I was going to suggest you and Ronnie do it. Takes some time to go back and review, verify the links, organize things, but its not bad. Bud aaron_hinni 08-22-07, 10:49 AM I was planning to do the same thing with my thread once everything was completed. Your index would have come in handy for me a while back. I was too lazy to use the search and decided I would work backwards in your thread to see how you made your columns... Going backwards from page 60 something to page 2 was good times ;-) However you guys making these extremely helpful indexes are going to lay it out, do make one of the first links point to the pictures of your finished room or go ahead and put a picture on your first page if it would make sense. HeyNow^ 08-22-07, 10:55 AM It amazes me how much work you guys (and gals) put into your awesome theater builds and then take the time to post pics, detailed instructions, links to purchases and chronicle what works as well as what doesn't. Now you are going even further to make it easier for all of us to access this information. I've never see anything like it. All of you should be highly commended for doing this. I certainly thank you!!! Class act for sure. chinadog 08-22-07, 11:39 AM Aaron, I know Steve did this already. I'll do the same, just need to get some new pics. BTW, 60 pages if you're set the number of posts per page to 60! :p Bud chinadog 08-22-07, 11:42 AM Randy, I wish this was done when I started, so going the extra mile to give back for all the stuff I've learned is no big deal in my book. Bud Chiahead 08-22-07, 11:50 AM Thanks for doing the index Bud, that will really come in handy when I start (which could be awhile, need to save up some serious funds first). accts4mjs 08-22-07, 01:05 PM Thanks man. I'm all for opposing positions done tactfully and with some sort of meat on the bone .... would be nice to have had some information besides a flame. Thats me. I'm here to learn from others as well. Bud Bud, I actually had posted a well phrased attack against this yahoo but after I posted it I got that itchy feeling in the back of my head. I clicked on his username and followed his last 20 posts and it was very obvious he was trolling. He had comments like that all over AVS. So it became apparent he was looking for a fight and I figured it best to not have your thread hijacked so I deleted my post. Just wanted you to know I was ready to go to bat for ya :cool: Mike chinadog 08-22-07, 03:29 PM Thanks Mike. I immediately did the same thing, checking other posts and then decided to rephrase my response for the same reason. Bud Jasonn B 08-22-07, 04:05 PM I have to say this is one impressive thead and great, great work!:) chinadog 08-22-07, 04:44 PM Thanks for doing the index Bud, that will really come in handy when I start (which could be awhile, need to save up some serious funds first). No problem. You'll get there, we all have that problem at one point or another! Bud chinadog 08-22-07, 04:45 PM I have to say this is one impressive thead and great, great work!:) Hey, thanks and welcome the the party! Let me know how that X10 stuff is going.... Bud ebr 08-22-07, 04:58 PM The index is great, Bud. I had thought about something like that but, in my measly 19 page thread, things are pretty easy to find ;). Plus, most of it is done (better) in this thread and others. Keep up the good work. chinadog 08-22-07, 05:02 PM The index is great, Bud. I had thought about something like that but, in my measly 19 page thread, things are pretty easy to find ;). Plus, most of it is done (better) in this thread and others. Keep up the good work. Thanks. I expect that this thread will go stale at some point and will eventually get archived... it'll be a sad day for me... :( Bud swithey 08-22-07, 05:59 PM Thanks. I expect that this thread will go stale at some point and will eventually get archived... it'll be a sad day for me... :( Bud Don't worry Bud. We'll keep adding friendly banter to keep it alive FOREVER :D chinadog 08-22-07, 07:20 PM Steve, I have no doubt you will, especially after the Blazing Saddles and the Zoltar photoshop masterpieces of yours.... :p .....and no, I won't be adding them to the index! Bud swithey 08-22-07, 07:54 PM Steve, I have no doubt you will, especially after the Blazing Saddles and the Zoltar photoshop masterpieces of yours.... :p .....and no, I won't be adding them to the index! Bud I forgot about the Blazing Saddles post. Thanks for the laugh :D accts4mjs 08-22-07, 11:40 PM Blazing Saddles and Zoltar? Ooh, ooh, share!! Mike chinadog 08-22-07, 11:50 PM Mike, go back about 1K or more and you'll see them, I believe Zoltar is among some of my "bald twins". As they say, "let sleeping dogs lie". ;) Bud accts4mjs 08-23-07, 12:25 AM LOL! Zoltar, that's awesome. I won't post it though... Mike chinadog 08-31-07, 09:02 PM I think I finished the Index for techniques and how tos. If I missed something, please let me know and I'll add it. Next up is the product list. Bud chinadog 09-06-07, 10:22 PM Not to be outdone by a new JVC 1080p projector, I've added a few shiney new thingies to the concession area. One retro looking microwave from Target and a couple of ebay specials - a Coke napkin holder and straw container. Not an even swap, but I didn't want to feel left out.... :p http://images29.fotki.com/v1012/photos/6/649633/5269592/DSC00361-vi.jpg http://images27.fotki.com/v994/photos/6/649633/5269592/DSC00362-vi.jpg Bud Big Worms 09-06-07, 11:10 PM Nice Bud! dc_pilgrim 09-06-07, 11:23 PM Too funny Bud. Nice napkin dispenser, too. Jasonn B 09-07-07, 12:07 AM Nice! Is that microwave wood grain simulated, or just brown? Looks cool. accts4mjs 09-07-07, 01:12 AM Wow, that's a cool microwave, I like it better than the stainless one I have. I very much dig your straw holder, think I'm going to have to get one of those for myself. What's the longest straw you think you could fit in there? Thanks, Mike chinadog 09-07-07, 07:27 AM The microwave is an Emerson and was on clearance at Target. I believe they had a stainless version of it as well. I paid about 65.00 for it. It's just black on the sides, Jasonn. Color is off, I suppose. I think I paid 3.50 for the napkin holder plus shipping on ebay, maybe 7.00 total. Now I need to get the right sized napkins for it. Mike, those are standard bendy straws in there now and there is a good two inches left. If I had to guess, it would take a 10" straw. I actually got two together on ebay for 15.00, the other is in the bar. Bud chinadog 09-07-07, 07:29 AM Here is the microwave, I don't get the guest rating... Emerson .9 cu. ft. Microwave - Stainless Steel/ Red http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-2/qid=1189164518******sr_1_2/602-1784473-8778222?ie=UTF8&asin=B000M9FKTK Bud HeyNow^ 09-07-07, 07:35 AM Here is the microwave: I don't get the guest rating... Emerson .9 cu. ft. Microwave - Stainless Steel/ Red http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/sr=1-2/qid=1189164518******sr_1_2/602-1784473-8778222?ie=UTF8&asin=B000M9FKTK Bud Bud, you gotta get that matching toaster..... :) chinadog 09-07-07, 07:54 AM Randy, saw that. Might make a good remote holder ... unplugged of course. ;) Bud accts4mjs 09-07-07, 11:01 AM LOL! I could just see it popping up the remote for you as you walked in the room ;) Mike chinadog 09-08-07, 08:27 AM Hey Jasonn B, how are you making out with your X10 install? That 890 working for you well? Bud Jasonn B 09-08-07, 09:54 AM Hey Jasonn B, how are you making out with your X10 install? That 890 working for you well? Bud I haven't really done much since we got the bias light setup (pic) (http://www.burtmanindustries.com/images/xyz/vizio_bias_far.JPG), I'm moving in this weekend I hope and then may bug you again :) chinadog 09-08-07, 10:00 AM Cool. Looks great. Let me know. Bud swithey 09-09-07, 08:06 AM Bud, Those bar items look very nice. They fit in well with the decor. JVC projector -- what are you talking about? ;) I checked my crystal ball and I see a new projectors for your room in the near future :D Hmm, maybe the Panny 2000U slated to be released early next year? chinadog 09-09-07, 08:31 AM Steve, just trying to get a rise outta you, my friend! I wouldn't mind upgrading at some point and maybe using the AE900 for an outdoor movie setup at that point. It'll do the job for a while, but once the bulb goes, you never know though. Bud Mr. Welsh 09-09-07, 11:49 PM I haven't checked in on this thread in a long time, and Bud you've made great progress! The basement looks very nice. Any plans to upgrade that dining table to a proper card playing table? chinadog 09-10-07, 06:49 AM I haven't checked in on this thread in a long time, and Bud you've made great progress! The basement looks very nice. Any plans to upgrade that dining table to a proper card playing table? Mr Welsh, thanks! Yes, I'm planning on building a poker table this fall or at least a top for that existing table. The next couple of weeks for me will be rather busy, so if all goes well, it'll be mid-October before I can start. Bud MikeMags 09-11-07, 02:20 PM chinadog, I was browsing all the great things you completed in your project. AWESOME!! Question on the poster boxes. I may have missed this. Are the movie posters a special type. I would assume so, for light to emit through? If so, could you tell me where to find them. Also I had a thought. I guess I could recess my light boxes in the 2x4 framing? Just to save some space. So in essence the "Guts" would be recessed and just the poster and frame are showing. I'm sure with all the talent in this site, this has probably been thought of. Thanks for your help!! Mike chinadog 09-11-07, 07:50 PM Hey Mike, welcome and thanks. Bears fan? ;) The posters are double sided posters (also known as DS posters). They're pretty easy to find online at allposters.com, movieposter.com, movieposters.com and of course eBay. I think recessed poster boxes would work fine, others have done them. I think you'd need to plan well before starting framing though. You'd have to build the interior "box" still, but use the side stud as the sides of the box. You'd want to still have some sort of backing to mount the lights to and protect them from nails or whatver coming through the back wall (in case you hand something). You'll want to run all your electric accordingly too. Definitely doable. BTW, not sure I posted an index entry (first post) on where I got the posters from, but will shortly if that helps. Bud chinadog 09-11-07, 07:59 PM Mike, added an entry to the index in the products section, but I got my posters from http://movieposter.com/ BUd MikeMags 09-11-07, 10:33 PM Thanks Bud! I will be referring to your thread quite often. Da Bears. Headed to the home opener on Sunday. I like the Chiefs as well. I think the Bears will prevail though. Again, thanks for the quick response and already viewing posters. I also read you may be looking to build a poker table? I have a set of plans you could use. I built one from them and it came out great. Feel free to private message me and I could send you the plans along with some pictures of mine. Mike chinadog 09-12-07, 08:31 AM Mike, no problem, let me know if you have any questions about the boxes. You have a PM. Bud MikeMags 09-12-07, 12:21 PM Now that I've been thinking about it more. If I ever decide to move I would like to take the Poster Boxes with me! So maybe recessing them more permanently is not the answer. chinadog 09-12-07, 02:51 PM Good thought! Bud chinadog 09-19-07, 10:27 AM Scott (SVonhof), been a while since I've done anything with this marquee. Do you think your printer buddy is still interested in printing it out for me? I think the same turned out great. No immediate rush, just let me know. Bud SVonhof 09-21-07, 12:09 PM Scott (SVonhof), been a while since I've done anything with this marquee. Do you think your printer buddy is still interested in printing it out for me? I think the same turned out great. No immediate rush, just let me know. Bud I was wondering if you ever did anything with the marquee. I had not seen any images of a new one. If you like what he did, I don't think he will have a problem doing it for you. Get me a full size image of what you want and I will shoot an e-mail to him. I don't go back to work until Monday, so I won't be able to talk to him or e-mail him until then. swithey 09-21-07, 02:34 PM I don't go back to work until Monday, so I won't be able to talk to him or e-mail him until then. Scott, Are you stuck in the Stone Age? You can't send him an email from home? How are you browsing AVS right now -- with carrier pigeon and a notepad? :D ;) chinadog 09-21-07, 02:39 PM Scott, Are you stuck in the Stone Age? You can't send him an email from home? How are you browsing AVS right now -- with carrier pigeon and a notepad? :D ;) Ouch! Bud chinadog 09-21-07, 02:41 PM I was wondering if you ever did anything with the marquee. I had not seen any images of a new one. If you like what he did, I don't think he will have a problem doing it for you. Get me a full size image of what you want and I will shoot an e-mail to him. I don't go back to work until Monday, so I won't be able to talk to him or e-mail him until then. Thanks dude! I have to verify a couple of things with my Photoshop guy here to see if he recommends anything before sending it off. That will take him a couple of days, I'm sure. I've got him very busy on other work things. Once I have that I'll send it off. Bud SVonhof 09-21-07, 03:48 PM Scott, Are you stuck in the Stone Age? You can't send him an email from home? How are you browsing AVS right now -- with carrier pigeon and a notepad? :D ;) Well, let's see here. Um, yes. ;) The place I work uses a very outdated e-mail software system known as Eudora. I think it was one of the first e-mail programs out there and we don't have web e-mail available to us. Well, not that I know of. I am not really an employee there, so I may not have all the information I need. Let's see, the way it is, I am a contractor working for a company that runs a contract at a location where since we were not very busy and had more people than work, I am on loan to a different company. Hmm, strange. :D SVonhof 09-21-07, 03:48 PM Thanks dude! I have to verify a couple of things with my Photoshop guy here to see if he recommends anything before sending it off. That will take him a couple of days, I'm sure. I've got him very busy on other work things. Once I have that I'll send it off. Bud Bud, shoot me an e-mail or a PM whenever you are ready. chinadog 09-21-07, 08:45 PM Bud, shoot me an e-mail or a PM whenever you are ready. Will do. Here's sorta what I'm leaning towards, although I want the letters to have a little more depth. I think I'm stickin' with these colors though. One has the partial black background and the other a sky background with stars. Anyone like one more than the other? Keeo in mind I'm gonna backlight this puppy. Sorry Big, I still like the red neon over the blue. http://images28.fotki.com/v1032/photos/6/649633/3813965/Marquee11-vi.jpg http://images29.fotki.com/v321/photos/6/649633/3813965/Marquee12-vi.jpg Bud chinadog 09-21-07, 08:50 PM Scott, BTW, saw your screen captures of the Masters. Ever been? If you every get the chance, even for a practice round, definitely worth it. I've been to four practice rounds and one Saturday during the tournament. Bud SVonhof 09-22-07, 11:37 AM Bud, out of the two, I like the second one, where the name of the theater is floating over the stars background. I have never been to the Masters, it's a long way away for me being in California. I will make it someday though. I just got three sleeves of Titleist ProV Masters logo balls and two blank scorecards from a guy on another forum. I may buy a flag and a pic of Tiger or maybe Jack or something and frame them! chinadog 09-22-07, 01:22 PM Scott, go to the Masters website (http://www.masters.org) and go to the ticket area. There is an address where you just send them a letter requesting a practice round form. You fill it out and send it back and you get put into a lottery for practice round tickets. I've been selected twice, my dad once and a buddy of mine from San Mateo last year. You can get them on ebay, but the practice round tickets will run you close to 300.00 each. Anyway, once you get the form in, they send it to you every year. I go for the course and the atmosphere, not the players per se. Incredible place just to walk around. Here's a link to an album of photos I took at this past Masters: http://public.fotki.com/bketterl/masters-07/ Bud chinadog 09-23-07, 12:45 PM Here's what it'll look like with lettering. Maybe I'll just hard code the lettering! How often will I actually change it? I also took out the black around the outer part of the sign and replaced it with that blue for a complete fade to black effect. http://images29.fotki.com/v1016/photos/6/649633/3813965/Marquee14-vi.jpg Bud SVonhof 09-24-07, 10:32 AM Scott, go to the Masters website (http://www.masters.org) and go to the ticket area. There is an address where you just send them a letter requesting a practice round form. You fill it out and send it back and you get put into a lottery for practice round tickets. I've been selected twice, my dad once and a buddy of mine from San Mateo last year. You can get them on ebay, but the practice round tickets will run you close to 300.00 each. Anyway, once you get the form in, they send it to you every year. I go for the course and the atmosphere, not the players per se. Incredible place just to walk around. Here's a link to an album of photos I took at this past Masters: http://public.fotki.com/bketterl/masters-07/ Bud Strange that they need your SSN to get on the mailing list for this.... I am going to sign up and if I ever get tickets, I will take my bro-in-law with me. Thanks for the info! accts4mjs 09-24-07, 03:55 PM Bud, it looks like if you're going to do stars behind the letters you need a couple behind the "Blazing" and "Cinema" words (looks unbalanced). Otherwise, I absolutely love it. Where are you getting it printed at? I need to get my "Theatre" sign printed and I'm not sure how/where to do it. Thanks, Mike chinadog 09-24-07, 04:31 PM Strange that they need your SSN to get on the mailing list for this.... Scott, not sure either. I know they will only accept one application per household. If you get selected, it's always fun trying to find housing. You may have to stay on the east side of Atlanta and drive two hours out to Augusta in order to find anything reasonable.... Bud chinadog 09-24-07, 04:36 PM Mike, didn't notice that until you pointed that out. I'll add a few. Scott Vonhof knows a printed who printed out a sample for me a while back and will try and hook up with him. Not sure what the material is called. I still have to check for what it looks like with light behind it. The PSD file is large (18M+), but I can probably still email it if you PM me your email address. Bud swithey 09-24-07, 04:39 PM The PSD file is large (18M+), but I can probably still email it if you PM me your email address. Bud You might check out http://www.yousendit.com. It is a FREE service to send large files. I've been using it for over a year now without any trouble. SVonhof 09-24-07, 07:54 PM Bud, I can't get tickets for 2008 as they have closed the list for that already. But I will send my info anyway and if I have to, I will camp out on your porch and drive there early in the morning! :) chinadog 09-24-07, 08:39 PM Scott, Right, I think the application needs to be in by July 30th or something and they notify in the fall for the next tournament. If you get tickets and need a place to stay, don't hesitate to let me know. You're welcome to stay. We're about 2.5 to 3.0 hours away, depending at the time you leave in the morning. Oh, and I know all the roads NOT to take in Augusta to get to the gates. Bud chinadog 09-24-07, 08:40 PM You might check out http://www.yousendit.com. It is a FREE service to send large files. I've been using it for over a year now without any trouble. Cool, thanks Steve, that will come in handy. chinadog 09-24-07, 11:38 PM Here is the latest with Mike's tweaks for the stars, I added a more three dimensional look to the letters and made the background slightly bigger to accommodate the overlap of the edges for the light box. http://images29.fotki.com/v1016/photos/6/649633/3813965/BlazingMarquee-vi.jpg Bud chinadog 09-24-07, 11:48 PM Mike, I messed around a little with the lettering after I sent the PSD. I'll resend. I did a quick one for here. You'd have to adjust the stars a little, maybe change the font and/or the coloring. Of course, I'm not sure what your want your theater name either, but now you can modify at will. http://images30.fotki.com/v472/photos/6/649633/3813965/SheltonMarquee-vi.jpg Bud chinadog 09-25-07, 08:20 AM Scott, Just looking at the backing that that the sample was printed on for the marquee. I'm curious if the front part pulls off the paper backing. If you hold it up to the light, you can actually see light through it, which is what I'd like, but the white area allows the paper manufacturer info on the back to also come through it. It says "Orajet digital printing media" on the back. Maybe you can ask your friend if it can pull apart and if not if there is another option. I plan on using the same white plexiglass that I used for the light boxes as a diffuser and can use a clear piece to sandwich it. I wonder also if he can do double side printing on a paper that size? I could just treat it like a big 2x6 poster. The other question is shipping it. I would think it would have to be rolled and tubed. I'd have to figure out the letter thing then, too. Bud accts4mjs 09-25-07, 11:05 AM Mike, I messed around a little with the lettering after I sent the PSD. I'll resend. I did a quick one for here. You'd have to adjust the stars a little, maybe change the font and/or the coloring. Of course, I'm not sure what your want your theater name either, but now you can modify at will. http://images30.fotki.com/v472/photos/6/649633/3813965/SheltonMarquee-vi.jpg Bud Bud, That's awesome!! I was originally going to just do something simple like this: http://myweb.cableone.net/mjshelton/files/images/ht/tbox_sign.jpg But now I'm not so sure. I never considered doing something as cool as what you have done for me since I'm not that talented with stuff like that :) One thing's for sure I'm 100% going to use it for my DVD player background (when it boots up for example). Thanks a million! Mike SVonhof 09-25-07, 02:14 PM Scott, Just looking at the backing that that the sample was printed on for the marquee. I'm curious of the front part pulls off the paper backing. If you hold it up to the link, you can actually see light through it, which is what I'd like, but the white area allows the paper manufacturer info on the back to also come through it. It says "Orajet digital printing media" on the back. Maybe you can ask your friend if it can pull apart and if not if there is another option. I plan on using the same white plexiglass that I used for the light boxes as a diffuser and can use a clear piece to sandwich it. I wonder also if he can do double side printing on a paper that size? I could just treat it like a big 2x6 poster. The other question is shipping it. I would think it would have to be rolled and tubed. I'd have to figure out the letter then, too. Bud I don't know if he can do double sided printing, probably not, but I will check. Also, the vinyl is made to be removed from the backing and applied to whatever surface you want. There are tricks to doing that and most beginners need to use the tips, talking with Jeff in the past, when he applies the vinyl to cars and such, he doesn't use any of those tricks as he has done it a whole bunch of times. BTW, he does the wraps for cars that you can see driving around advertizing things, but mainly he does the graphics that go onto race cars as he is a racer himself. I will get back to you on the double sided printing and see if he can come up with a tip sheet on how to apply the vinyl without having any issues like bubbles or wrinkles. accts4mjs 09-25-07, 03:29 PM Scott, thanks for offering to help out with tips on applying these vinyl sheets. I'm going to be doing something just like it and will need to know too. Thanks, Mike Chiahead 09-25-07, 03:36 PM Bud, I like the extra stars in the letering. I would probably add 2 more in Blazing and maybe 1 more in Ridge... But I am very asymetrical, and 2-3-4 would bug me... chinadog 09-25-07, 06:37 PM Bud, That's awesome!! I was originally going to just do something simple like this: But now I'm not so sure. I never considered doing something as cool as what you have done for me since I'm not that talented with stuff like that :) One thing's for sure I'm 100% going to use it for my DVD player background (when it boots up for example). Thanks a million! Mike Mike, no problem. If you prefer, I can just make some updates for you, just PM me with the details and if you just want a jpg, I can generate that. Bud chinadog 09-25-07, 06:41 PM I don't know if he can do double sided printing, probably not, but I will check. Also, the vinyl is made to be removed from the backing and applied to whatever surface you want. There are tricks to doing that and most beginners need to use the tips, talking with Jeff in the past, when he applies the vinyl to cars and such, he doesn't use any of those tricks as he has done it a whole bunch of times. BTW, he does the wraps for cars that you can see driving around advertizing things, but mainly he does the graphics that go onto race cars as he is a racer himself. I will get back to you on the double sided printing and see if he can come up with a tip sheet on how to apply the vinyl without having any issues like bubbles or wrinkles. Not critical on the double sided stuff, was thinking that there may be issues with light through the backing. I'm thinking I can use the vinyl on white plexiglass then and that would help solve the removable lettering problem. Oh, I'll need the tips for sure! I see those vehicles all over Atlanta, I aways wondered if people got paid to drive around with that stuff on or if the owner of the business did it himself. That stuff isn't cheap either! Bud chinadog 09-25-07, 06:42 PM Bud, I like the extra stars in the letering. I would probably add 2 more in Blazing and maybe 1 more in Ridge... But I am very asymetrical, and 2-3-4 would bug me... Thanks for the input. I'm like that as well, it was a late night though. I'll take another look. Bud SVonhof 09-25-07, 11:10 PM I see those vehicles all over Atlanta, I aways wondered if people got paid to drive around with that stuff on or if the owner of the business did it himself. That stuff isn't cheap either! Bud A buddy of mine needed a new car. He went to a local dealer and they told him about their "wrap" program. They were looking for people with long commutes and his is something like 85 miles each way, so he qualified. He ended up buying a Kia somethingorother at a great price (basic car) and then because of the wrap, he brings the car to the dealer when he needs gas and they fill it up for him each time, for 2 years. He did the math and with 2 years of driving 170 miles, it was like $11000 in gas he got for free. It wasn't always convienent, as he had to go to the dealer, so sometimes, he would pay for it on his own, but they got advertizing and he got free gas. chinadog 09-26-07, 06:55 AM Pretty funny. I spend somewhere in the 300.00 per month range on my commute now. I get four trips downtown and back on a tank of gas. Pretty awful gas mileage, but can't give up the truck. We're attached at the hip. :p Bud jjmj427 09-28-07, 04:02 PM Bud, I just want to say that the level of craftsmanship and detail that you have put into your basement is INCREDIBLE and it shows in all the pictures of your build!!! I have my own sorta blog going on my build on the Hometheaterforum.com, which is where I saw your post for your theater build. I have spent the last 2 and 1/2 days pouring through your thread and can honestly say that I hope my room will turn out half as good as yours. I am basically going through the same type build as you did, with finishing out the whole basement. I am going on a year in October since I have started construction on the basement. Here is a link to my thread: http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htf/showthread.php?t=257672 I am thinking of starting up my thread on this forum. People seem to be more interactive with comments or suggestions along with getting a response to questions that you might have. Don't get me wrong the people are great on that forum, I am also looking for more input. Enough on that, I don't want to look like I am trying to hijack your thread. Do you mind if I use some of your ideas for the theater room? Your designs look very well thought out for all the items that you made yourself and looks like you hired a professional! I bought the insteon switches and software also along with the harmony 1000, so I may be asking you some questions, if you don't mind of course. Your build has a lot of good information and I am sure that it will help many people with theirs! Again, Congrats on your build! Cheers, JJ chinadog 09-28-07, 04:33 PM Hey JJ, welcome over to this side of the world! Thanks for the kind words. I took a quick glance of your thread and it looks like its your making some good progress. I'll go back and read it in detail this weekend. AVS is a great place to be, there are a lot of knowledgable people here. If you start a thread, you'll have a large audience to tap into for questions and answers. Help yourself to any ideas here, but promise if you improve the design that you'll post them here! This way we all learn something. I haven't played with the H1000, but since it uses the same software, shouldn't be much of an issue. Bud jjmj427 09-28-07, 05:57 PM I will probably start a thread sometime this weekend and put all the highlights of the build up on this site. Bud wrote: Help yourself to any ideas here, but promise if you improve the design that you'll post them here! This way we all learn something. I sure will! I am looking forward to getting to know you all better and feel like I sorta do already from reading through the whole thread! Cheers, JJ chinadog 09-30-07, 07:22 PM accts4mjs - Hey Mike, I downloaded some new fonts the other night including some deco type fonts, so if you want me to mess with your marquee some with the new fonts, let me know. Bud BFauska 10-02-07, 01:19 AM I don't know anything about your printing source, and don't want to try to convince anybody to not use him, but it seems like a private hookup, and if anybody wanted to get something similar printed there is a great company many people in the arcade/MAME hobby use for back-lit marquees similar to what your doing for your theater. I just looked at the pricing and for a small sign (12"x23") the price is about $16 and you can go as big as 18"x33" for $35. It is made for back-lighting and is praised over at the BYOAC arcade controls forum. (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com) The company is called mamemarquees (http://www.mamemarquees.com) they advertise all their products for use on arcade machines, but it would work great for this. For back-lit signs and stuff look at the customer designed marquees. I hope this doesn't seem out of place, I'll try to check back soon so I can modify or remove the post if you'd like Bud (or any mods, but I don't think the link should be a problem since they don't sell competing products.) I haven't been around this forum much in the last year or so, but whenever I stop by I have to check out your thread Bud, and I am always amazed at the craftsmanship of your projects and the friendly-helpfulness of your posts. Keep up the great work. chinadog 10-02-07, 06:32 AM Brian, thanks for the post and the kind words. I'm trying to go large with the marquee (24x60) this time around, but I know others in another thread that are looking for options for smaller marquees and other backlit options, so that was helpful. Maybe I'll order a smaller one just to check out how it would come out. 16.00 is pretty cheap. Bud SVonhof 10-02-07, 09:21 AM Bud, FYI, I got a message from Jeff yesterday saying he was back (I assume from vacation) and to call him about your marquee. I didn't have time yesterday though. Maybe today. chinadog 10-02-07, 10:54 PM Scott, got your email today, just didn't have a chance to respond. Tuesdays are "meeting day" for me. I'll reply tomorrow. Thanks for the info. Bud accts4mjs 10-03-07, 10:24 AM accts4mjs - Hey Mike, I downloaded some new fonts the other night including some deco type fonts, so if you want me to mess with your marquee some with the new fonts, let me know. Bud Bud, That's awesome! I'll get some measurements of my box and maybe a slight mockup for you. Hopefully I'll get some time to work on that tonight. Thanks! Mike chinadog 10-03-07, 10:45 PM Mike, Sounds good. Lemme know. Bud chinadog 10-07-07, 06:14 PM Today was "Father and son paint the shed day". It was somewhat fun. It's been back burnered for some time. Got the roof shingles on too. Now I need to get the shelves and the door hardware on it. That'll take another two weeks at least.... http://images27.fotki.com/v1024/photos/6/649633/5269594/DSC00451-vi.jpg No comments on the mustard color, not sure what the heck I was thinking. It's just too bright for a shed. Bud HeyNow^ 10-08-07, 03:02 PM Your son will always remember working on that shed with his Dad. My three sons still bring up stuff we did together. Simple tasks that you would never guess they would remember. Shed looks great. BIGmouthinDC 10-08-07, 03:29 PM I remember building a canoe in the basement with my Dad. Early in the process when a few of the framing members were just screwed together I asked if he thought the thing was going to make it up the stairs. (tight turn at top) It wouldn't. We finished it in the garage. chinadog 10-08-07, 10:13 PM Your son will always remember working on that shed with his Dad. My three sons still bring up stuff we did together. Simple tasks that you would never guess they would remember. Shed looks great. You're right. Hopefully he won't remember me freaking out about getting paint everywhere! It's funny, my Dad was never really handy at all, so we never built anything together. I got all that talent from my grandfather on my Mom's side. He passed when I was 7. He built cabinets, fixed watches and radios, made a bunch of furniture and other things. I remember always going into the basement in their house and he had tools and stuff everywhere. Good memories there. Since my Dad wasn't handy, my brother ended up with all his tools. Go figure. Bud chinadog 10-08-07, 10:13 PM I remember building a canoe in the basement with my Dad. Early in the process when a few of the framing members were just screwed together I asked if he thought the thing was going to make it up the stairs. (tight turn at top) It wouldn't. We finished it in the garage. Man, a canoe would be really cool. What ever happened to it? Bud chinadog 10-14-07, 03:10 PM Just got back from a long weekend in the North Georgia mountains. We rented a cabin in Blue Ridge and had a blast. In Blue Ridge is one of only three remaining drive-in movies left in Georgia, called "The Swan", so we took the kids and dogs Friday night. What a great time! Here's a link to the Swan Drive-in theater. (www.swan-drive-in.com/) Oh, we left after the first flick, in case you were wondering. http://images29.fotki.com/v317/photos/6/649633/5495348/DSC00522-vi.jpg http://images27.fotki.com/v1022/photos/6/649633/5495348/DSC00505-vi.jpg http://images30.fotki.com/v473/photos/6/649633/5495348/DSC00507-vi.jpg http://images29.fotki.com/v1035/photos/6/649633/5495348/DSC00513-vi.jpg http://images28.fotki.com/v1033/photos/6/649633/5495348/DSC00514-vi.jpg http://images28.fotki.com/v1029/photos/6/649633/5495348/DSC00515-vi.jpg The cabin itself was pretty amazing as were the views. It was called "Above the Clouds" and we rented it through Blue Sky Cabin rentals. (http://www.blueskycabinrentals.com/)The pano I put together was with Autostitch. http://images29.fotki.com/v310/photos/6/649633/5495348/abovethecloudspano-vi.jpg http://images27.fotki.com/v1018/photos/6/649633/5495348/100_2867-vi.jpg http://images30.fotki.com/v39/photos/6/649633/5495348/100_2868-vi.jpg http://images28.fotki.com/v1031/photos/6/649633/5495348/100_2886-vi.jpg The whole trip album is here: http://public.fotki.com/bketterl/ga-mountain-trip-2007/ Bud chinadog 10-18-07, 03:42 PM So not sure if this was a marketing ploy or not. Not too long ago I upgraded to Tiger Woods '08 for the 360. I've been doing the skills challenge and got to the point where every time I tried to play against a pro, the system would lock up. After some investigation, I discovered there was a bug in thr software, but the only way to get the patch is through XBox Live! Man! 60.00 for the game, then I had to get the wireless adapter and the live subscription (another 140.00 to fix the damn bug)? What a racket! I need to get a wireless bridge, so I have network access to the rack. I could hardwire it since I ran all the cabling, but would require some additonal network cleanup on my part. In the meantime the Xbox wireless adapter will do. The whole networking thing is pretty cool, should have done this before. Working on the Game Face pics for TW08 too. Anyone else up for a round of golf some night? Bud HeyNow^ 10-18-07, 03:53 PM Man, could I tell you some stories about my youth at the DriveIn! :) Jasonn B 10-18-07, 04:04 PM So not sure if this was a marketing ploy or not. Not too long ago I upgraded to Tiger Woods '08 for the 360. I've been doing the skills challenge and got to the point where every time I tried to play against a pro, the system would lock up. After some investigation, I discovered there was a bug in thr software, but the only way to get the patch is through XBox Live! Man! 60.00 for the game, then I had to get the wireless adapter and the live subscription (another 140.00 to fix the damn bug)? What a racket! I need to get a wireless bridge, so I have network access to the rack. I could hardwire it since I ran all the cabling, but would require some additonal network cleanup on my part. In the meantime the Xbox wireless adapter will do. The whole networking thing is pretty cool, should have done this before. Working on the Game Face pics for TW08 too. Anyone else up for a round of golf some night? Bud I just got a 360. I mainly wanted it so i could stream all my pictures, video, mp3's, etc. to the TV. It works great. I can play anything I have on my computer on the TV. You can do this as well. Do you have media center PC? Also, be sure to download TVersity which will let you do this. dc_pilgrim 10-18-07, 04:27 PM I still go to the drive in every year. Really enjoy that. This pic is when we took my daughter over the summer 2006. She wrestled with my wife through cars and then slept through Superman. This year she did better and watched Ratatoule, but was awake and prevented us from staying for Transformers. http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u129/dc_pilgrim/atthedrive-in.jpg chinadog 10-18-07, 10:31 PM Man, could I tell you some stories about my youth at the DriveIn! :) I've got a few wild ones myself. Good times them were! Bud chinadog 10-18-07, 10:33 PM I just got a 360. I mainly wanted it so i could stream all my pictures, video, mp3's, etc. to the TV. It works great. I can play anything I have on my computer on the TV. You can do this as well. Do you have media center PC? Also, be sure to download TVersity which will let you do this. I don't have a Media Center PC at the moment. Contemplating buying/building a media PC though. Just not there yet. Pretty cool what you're doing though, got it integrated with that 890 yet?;) Bud chinadog 10-18-07, 10:35 PM http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u129/dc_pilgrim/atthedrive-in.jpg Too cute! I hear there is one in Atlanta as well, called the Starlight. Need to look into it. Bud Jasonn B 10-18-07, 11:46 PM I don't have a Media Center PC at the moment. Contemplating buying/building a media PC though. Just not there yet. Pretty cool what you're doing though, got it integrated with that 890 yet?;) Bud I don't have a media center either. Download TVersity, it's awesome. Yep, 890 does it too. chinadog 10-19-07, 06:25 AM Cool, I'll check it out. Bud MaximAvs 10-19-07, 09:35 AM So not sure if this was a marketing ploy or not. Not too long ago I upgraded to Tiger Woods '08 for the 360. I've been doing the skills challenge and got to the point where every time I tried to play against a pro, the system would lock up. After some investigation, I discovered there was a bug in thr software, but the only way to get the patch is through XBox Live! Man! 60.00 for the game, then I had to get the wireless adapter and the live subscription (another 140.00 to fix the damn bug)? What a racket! Bud Need to pick up a PS3!! Free online access!! chinadog 10-19-07, 10:23 AM Sean, Got to get the Wii first for the kiddies before moving on the the PS3, but thats good to know! Bud johnson_sb 10-19-07, 09:26 PM Bud, I like the panoramic shot you created with Autostitch. Did you use a tripod to line up the shots better or were you able to do that handheld? chinadog 10-19-07, 10:44 PM Steve, Handheld, just stood still and rotated around. Autostitch takes care of my flaws! I had to crop out the picture once it was generated, it leaves a lot of black around the picture where it can't fill it in. Here's another one with morning fog: http://images30.fotki.com/v465/photos/6/649633/5495348/abovethecloudsfogpano-vi.jpg Bud chinadog 10-20-07, 08:14 AM I don't have a media center either. Download TVersity, it's awesome. Yep, 890 does it too. Got this installed yesterday. Does work well. Still playing around with it some, but at first glance, seems pretty cool. Thanks. Bud johnson_sb 10-20-07, 09:35 AM Steve, Handheld, just stood still and rotated around. Autostitch takes care of my flaws! I had to crop out the picture once it was generated, it leaves a lot of black around the picture where it can't fill it in. Here's another one with morning fog: http://images30.fotki.com/v465/photos/6/649633/5495348/abovethecloudsfogpano-vi.jpg Bud That's a very cool shot! mbgonzomd 10-20-07, 02:24 PM What a racket! Yep, just boxed my 360 up to send back to get repaired. The red circle of death error. I am really enjoying my PS3, however.:) Gerry S 10-21-07, 09:21 PM I've been using TVersity with my PS3 - works great. But have you guys noticed it is a bit of a resource hog? chinadog 10-24-07, 12:26 AM I've been using TVersity with my PS3 - works great. But have you guys noticed it is a bit of a resource hog? No more than Itunes. :) Bud MaximAvs 10-24-07, 03:05 PM Steve, Handheld, just stood still and rotated around. Autostitch takes care of my flaws! I had to crop out the picture once it was generated, it leaves a lot of black around the picture where it can't fill it in. Here's another one with morning fog: http://images30.fotki.com/v465/photos/6/649633/5495348/abovethecloudsfogpano-vi.jpg Bud Did you take this picture with that Sony DSC-W80?!! chinadog 10-24-07, 03:54 PM Did you take this picture with that Sony DSC-W80?!! Acutally its the Sony DSC-W55, but it was like four pictures that Autostitch put together: http://images29.fotki.com/v333/photos/6/649633/5495348/100_2903-vi.jpg http://images30.fotki.com/v473/photos/6/649633/5495348/100_2904-vi.jpg http://images28.fotki.com/v1031/photos/6/649633/5495348/100_2905-vi.jpg http://images29.fotki.com/v334/photos/6/649633/5495348/DSC00519-vi.jpg Autostitch also scaled it down to 10% of the original size, but that's configurable. More info about Autostitch here. (http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~mbrown/autostitch/autostitch.html) Bud MaximAvs 10-25-07, 02:10 PM Very cool!! And very nice pictures as well!!:):) chinadog 11-27-07, 03:18 PM You might check out http://www.yousendit.com. It is a FREE service to send large files. I've been using it for over a year now without any trouble. Steve, I've used this a couple of times now.... works well. Thanks for posting! Bud calv1n 11-27-07, 03:26 PM Working on the Game Face pics for TW08 too. Anyone else up for a round of golf some night? Bud Bud, I'll play a round or two with you some night. I haven't picked up the 08 yet (still working on 07 and I have 06) but I'll add it to my collection soon. Gamertag is CaLv1n1 On a side note I answered your question on the thresholds in the other construction thread sorry I missed it till now I was working away and didn't visit the thread until recently. Cheers Calvin chinadog 11-27-07, 03:34 PM Bud, I'll play a round or two with you some night. I haven't picked up the 08 yet (still working on 07 and I have 06) but I'll add it to my collection soon. Gamertag is CaLv1n1 On a side note I answered your question on the thresholds in the other construction thread sorry I missed it till now I was working away and didn't visit the thread until recently. Cheers Calvin You're on! Send me a PM when you think you'll be on and when. Saw the response, thanks. It was what I expected, I'm still debating if I want to add a threshold or not. Sounds leakage is not a real problem with my setup, although sometimes I hold back on crankin' her up jsut in case. Bud HeyNow^ 12-11-07, 07:32 AM Hey Bud! Any new projects going on? When are you going to start that star ceiling? chinadog 12-11-07, 07:39 AM Hey Randy, Hee hee .... I've got my marquee done from photoshop standpoint, but that's about it. Haven't sent it out to be printed. I'm thinking about the star ceiling in the March timeframe. From a work-work standpoint, I'm busy. we're trying to wrapup the changes to site for the Primaries and we're still fine tuning mockups. The development team is cranking out pages as fast as they can to be tested, but it'll be up to the wire. I'll be working through my scheduled holiday vacation at the end of the month due to the tight timeline. In January, I'm hoping to start painting upstairs (kids room, family room, foyer, kitchen) so we'll see how that goes. I also need to go back and study up on the poker table thing. Anything exciting on your end? Bud SVonhof 12-11-07, 09:21 AM Bud, did Jeff ever get back to you about printing the marquee? HeyNow^ 12-11-07, 09:22 AM As a matter of fact there is.....I finished mocking up three 4X8 foot star panels. The day before Thanksgiving I took 1/8 inch hardboard and fir'd the perimeter with 1X2s wrapped that with black Celtic cloth and punched the fibers through. I have 96 stars in each of the 32 square foot panel. I used EG Pack 48 fiber. I have used 70 feet of it and hope that's going to be long enough. I got the CoolSky LED unit. It was fun. All I have to do now is fir the ceiling and nail them up. I also replaced the wood stove with a gas fireplace. The gas company that did the install absolutely SUCKED. They were amateurs. Long story ....I won't thread crap here explaining what happened. Now I have to design a surround to make it look like a fireplace. I did get version one framed up this weekend, but it's coming down. Too big. I have to start finishing one project before I begin the next. I am a one man band and at times it's overwhelming. Good luck Bud! chinadog 12-11-07, 09:24 AM Bud, did Jeff ever get back to you about printing the marquee? Scott, I haven't send him the marquee yet, so there was not need to. It's done, I just have to get off my ass. I'll try and get it done tonight. Bud chinadog 12-11-07, 09:27 AM Randy, have you posted any pictures of your panels anywhere? 4x8? Did you use an insulation board? I've gone through some of the sky ceiling threads, but don't recall any pictures. Love to see them. Bud HeyNow^ 12-11-07, 09:32 AM No, I have not taken any pics yet. I can still do that. My finished star ceiling will be 8X12. Each panel is a full sheet of 4X8 hardboard (pegboard without the holes :) ) I have the three panels sitting in the spare room. I plan on trimming out the edges with some nice molding. I'll get the camera out and snap a few and post them on the bar thread to keep things tidy. chinadog 12-11-07, 10:43 AM That would be great. I assume you framed out the hardboard so there is no sagging. I have like a 9x10 area, so I have to figure out if I'm gogin to piece it together or do a coffered look (leaning this way), but have to deal with the cans in the ceiling too, hence the delay of pushing it forward. Need to whip out a clean slate in MS Paint! Bud HeyNow^ 12-11-07, 10:57 AM Yes, I framed the entire perimeter and put one as a cross brace in the middle. Should be enough to prevent sag. I'm going to try and use 2 1/2 inch finish nails (18 gauge) so they will go through the fabric. I know that Ruben did this and he used a heavier board material. SO I am hoping I'll be ok. I'll find out! I need to rent a drywall lift to position the panels by myself. I'm going to remove the ceiling fan and put two cans on the side of the star panels. So the cans will be 9 feet apart. carboranadum 12-11-07, 11:18 AM Randy: I'm very interested in your build...particularly your star ceiling. I'm in Winchester, not too far away, and I would like to have the starfield ceiling too. Please post photos as you are able. Thanks for the posts sharing your great build. chinadog 12-11-07, 09:05 PM Randy, Jason and I were talking about my ceiling a little while ago and we'll (he's gonna help) probably startup sometime in the March timeframe, so when you start posting pictures, let me know. I'll have many questions for both you and Steve. Are you posting in your thread or one of the star ceiling threads? Bud HeyNow^ 12-12-07, 07:55 AM Carbo/Bud, I'm just going to add to my build in my link. I'm going to post some pics of my fireplace so I can get some expert advice on how to build the surround also. You guys are motivating me to get to this very soon.... chinadog 12-12-07, 09:25 AM Great! Looking forward to checking it out. Bud Mr. Welsh 12-12-07, 02:53 PM Too cute! I hear there is one in Atlanta as well, called the Starlight. Need to look into it. Bud There's a big one off Moreland Ave. south of Atlanta. I drove by it almost every day for a few months for work, but never went by at night. It's not in a good area. chinadog 12-12-07, 04:02 PM Thats the same one, haven't been there though. http://www.starlightdrivein.com/ Bud chinadog 12-13-07, 05:30 PM Scott, you probably saw my emails this AM, but just an FYI that Jeff did reply today, although I think he forgot to copy you. Anyway, we'll see how it looks when its done. I guess I need to get with Jason and have some plexiglass ordered in preparation for when he's done with the marquee. Bud SVonhof 12-13-07, 06:50 PM I did see the original e-mail and he did not CC me when he replied. No biggie though and I am not at work, so I may have an e-mail on my work computer when I get in next week. I hope everything works to your satisfaction! chinadog 12-14-07, 06:41 AM I'm sure it'll be fine, I'm glad its moving forward again. Bud chinadog 12-14-07, 08:47 AM Been playing with the first reflection tool that Jeff put together. It can be found here. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=822273 I was curious how it worked and its pretty cool. Here is how my room turned out using measurements off the top of my head. Since I used Bryan (bpape) and the whole room is treated, I just wanted to check it out. http://images32.fotki.com/v1063/photos/6/649633/2311872/Firstreflections-vi.jpg I do have a general question for Bpape though if you're out there. Bryan, once you know what the reflection points are, and say people want to make their panels, how does one decide which sound absorption materials to use? I'm also curious how this plays into the construction of my star ceiling. Maybe I'll use OC703 rather than hardboard or something? Bud HeyNow^ 12-14-07, 09:00 AM Bud, I used this to try and analyze my room. I could not figure out what the hell I was looking at! I put OC703 2X4 panels on one of my walls and it made a terrific difference. I kept in mind the mirror trick when I placed them. chinadog 12-14-07, 11:54 AM Randy, It took me a little while to get it working, had to install some DLLs. Once I had that it was pretty straightforward. You just have to mouse over the different slides to get the tool tip to know what it is you're looking at. Zooming and panning took a minute to get, too. Bud jord 12-14-07, 02:52 PM Hey Bud, I just wanted to say thanks! I happened upon a link to your cinema build in a forum months ago, and I've been browsing hundreds of posts here ever since. Your cinema is quite amazing and I want to thank you for drawing me into such a great community. Thanks! jared chinadog 12-14-07, 03:03 PM Hey Jared, welcome to the forum and thanks for the reply. Lemma know if you have any questions. Bud chinadog 12-24-07, 10:24 PM Happy Holidays everyone! Bud |