I will miss Laurence Fishburne on CSI.. The problem I had was there were 2 doctors on 1 show.. the casting of him as a CSI investigator who happens to be a doctor was overkill. there were scenes where the 2 doctors were in the autopsy room comparing notes.I wish him well and hope CBS gets a suitable replacement..

How many shows has he been sent in to pinch hit and have killed. No thanks.

I agree 100%, anyone but Smits.

Jimmy Smits has become the Ted McGinley of the 21st century. :DFunny, "Dexter" is still on and going onto his sixth season (three more since Smits guest-starred) although the show now limps instead of confidently walking around strutting with pride. ;)

This last season's episodes were not up to par as the previous seasons. Probably a sign of budget cuts.

I too will miss Fishperson

TV Notes
Ted Danson Surprisingly Takes On 'CSI'
By Nikki Finke, Deadline.com - July 12th, 2011

He's coming in as a new team leader on the graveyard shift of the original CSI filling one of the voids left by Laurence Fishburne who himself took over from William Petersen. The talks with Ted Danson only started about two weeks ago and closed late today, so this was truly fast casting. The show moves to a new night -- from Thursdays to Wednesdays -- in the hopes of growing that 10 PM time slot and invigorating ratings. Fishburne never clicked with viewers, and Danson seems like sensible casting. "A proven TV star coming into an aging hit is quite a coup. Danson most recently had a gig with FX's Damages and has been a regular on HBO's Bored To Death which will continue.

CBS press release follows:

LOS ANGELES - July 12, 2011 — Multiple Emmy Award winner Ted Danson will join the cast of CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION, in a series regular role, on the CBS Television Network. His character will debut in the season premiere on Wednesday, September 21 (10:00-11:00 PM,ET/PT). Danson will play the new CSI Supervisor for the grave shift after heading the crime lab in Portland. He comes to the team as they are still grappling with the professional and personal fallout from last season's take-down of serial killer, Nate Haskell. "You can create a new character on the page, but until the perfect actor comes along and breathes life into it, it's just words," said Executive Producer Carol Mendelsohn. "We're very excited Ted Danson came along."

"From the moment we all started talking about therole, it was clear he couldn't be more perfect," said Executive Producer Don McGill. "Intelligence, wit, warmth, depth of characterand emotion, he brings it all. And now he'll have to bring latex gloves, too."

Ted Danson will remain a series regular on the critically acclaimed HBO series,“Bored to Death.” He has also recently garnered accolades for his roles on “Damages” and “Curb Your Enthusiasm.” Ted Danson will next be seen starring opposite Drew Barrymore and John Krasinsky in “Everybody Loves Whales” to be released in January 2012.

Now entering its 12th season, CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION is the most-watchedtelevision show in the world. CSI is produced by CBS Television Studiosin association with Jerry Bruckheimer Television. The executive producers are Jerry Bruckheimer, Carol Mendelsohn, Anthony Zuiker, Don McGill, Jonathan Littman and Louis Milito.

http://www.deadline.com/2011/07/breaking-ted-danson-takes-over-on-csi/

Looks like someone is getting demoted....

I liked Danson on Cheers, but not on anything else.

Danson was great on Damages and Curb, two very different roles...

Ted Danson is the new Alan Alda. ;)

I liked Danson on Cheers, but not on anything else.He was great as Becker.

He was super as Sam Malone! :)

Jimmy Smits has become the Ted McGinley of the 21st century. :DNever really got that joke. Well - I do "get" what they were going for - it's just not really a true example. Apparently whomever made it up avoided to factor in that those shows were on the outs already.

And it certainly wouldn't apply to 'Married with Children'.

Smits, on the other hand, would probably be a truer example, because they continue to try and build whole shows around him as an actor.

Danson? Nnnnnnnooooooooooooooooooo! The show has just jumped the shark. RIP CSI...

Danson was great on Damages and Curb, two very different roles...

Funny on Bored to Death as well.

Never really got that joke. Well - I do "get" what they were going for - it's just not really a true example. Apparently whomever made it up avoided to factor in that those shows were on the outs already.

And it certainly wouldn't apply to 'Married with Children'.

Smits, on the other hand, would probably be a truer example, because they continue to try and build whole shows around him as an actor.

Always thought McGinley's casting on MWC was an inside joke relating to that the actor's penchant for "show killer".

Jorja Fox is back on the show full-time this season. It will be interesting to see how they play the storyline with her in Vegas all the time and her hubby in the jungle.

They've carried that on for at least a season now, I see no change....

I'm sure they did at some point, but I don't remember if they ever gave an explanation.

Why exactly is Sara in Las Vegas instead of with Grissom?

TV Review
'CSI' with Ted Danson
Evidence shows that the veteran actor is a smooth addition to the 'Crime Scene Investigation' procedural.
By Robert Lloyd, Los Angeles Times - September 21st, 2011

Well, it's official. At this stage in his career, there is nothing Ted Danson can't do. Including walk into an aging franchise, crash through its calcified conventions and deliver a whole new sort of genius investigator — one who isn't tortured or crazy, one who can ask his wary new team about local farmers markets with the same easy confidence that he uses to dress down a subordinate who thinks paperwork is beneath him.

Watching Danson glide through his first two episodes as "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation's" D.B. Russell, the new night supervisor brought in to replace Laurence Fishburne's Dr. Raymond Langston, is like watching Fred Astaire dance — he makes it look not only easy but inevitable. Yes, of course, this is what would happen next, which in this case is not so much a big musical number but one of the many ludicrous plot twists — an octopus on a tram! — or Olympian leaps of logic that remain the hallmark of the show.

Whether he can lift the aging franchise back to its former ratings glory is another question entirely. "CSI" remains "CSI," the weary queen ant of the forensics procedural; Danson is new blood, but the star of the show remains the investigation narrative.

The disappearance of Fishburne's Langston, who in last year's season finale killed the serial murderer he had been hunting for years, is handled with surprising yet characteristic brevity. Russell's move to the Las Vegas police may be greeted with obligatory suspicion — he's from the Pacific Northwest, for goodness sake — and Catherine Willows (Marg Helgenberger) realizes that the department is far from off the hook for the events leading up to the Dick and Jane killer's death.

Within forensics' very busy universe — bugs, blood, trajectory re-creations, a rogues' gallery of witnesses — Danson can be but a subtle influence. Still, what executive producers Carol Mendelsohn and Don McGill and their team have done by creating Russell is promising, both for the show and the genre. When, on the phone with his wife, Russell asks his team if Vegas has any farmers markets, the look on Catherine and Nick (George Eads) captures the procedural's tired married-to-the-job trope and limited ken in a way that borders on self-satire.

Far from the damaged, obsessive and obsessed leads we have come to expect from shows like "CSI" or even "The Mentalist," Russell is refreshingly normal, with a life and family outside work — traits that don't prevent him from being very good at what he does.

Then there's the sheer pleasure of watching an actor at the peak of his craft, which should bring, and keep, at least a few new viewers. The problem, of course, is that "CSI" is not, and never was, a character-driven drama; it's a police procedural. After conquering such exquisite characters as Arthur Frobisher on "Damages" and George Christopher on "Bored to Death," Danson is like a master chef who has taken a job in a cafeteria. Something will have to change, and one can only hope that it's the old menu rather than the new guy in the white hat.

CSI: CRIME SCENE INVESTIGATION
Series Premiere Tonight at 10PM on CBS

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/tv/la-et-csi-ted-danson-20110921,0,2724991.story

That's right, I forgot about the crazy new time slot. Not sure if I should pick SVU or CSI to watch live :p

An OK episode tonight. I've seen better Season Premiers in my day :p

I do like the addition of Ted Danson. His character is a little interesting.

What's the story with Catherine being demoted? The blonde who interviewed with Detective Vartann is taking her place?

Marg Helgenberger will have a reduced role this season. The storyline of her being demoted falls in with that.

Isn't the "new" girl the same one in L.A. last season when I thought they might be doing yet another spin-off?

I must get some BBQ sauce for my crow. Danson's character is interesting and he played it wonderfully. I'm actually looking forward to more episodes now.

Gotcha. Thanks for the information.

I hope all the "By the book" stuff is just bluster, There are so many procedural that are by the book, don't need more. I like the working outside of the lines aspect of the show, if they loose that they risk loosing me - not that they care.


Danson is fine in the role, quirky enough to fit in, enough baggage to make him interesting. Funny if Mary S. showed up as his wife.

An OK episode tonight. I've seen better Season Premiers in my day :p

I do like the addition of Ted Danson. His character is a little interesting.

What's the story with Catherine being demoted? The blonde who interviewed with Detective Vartann is taking her place?

It is all tyed into the the Langston characters meltdown from last season and Fishbourne's departure. This is what the producers are using to help Helgenberger back out as well.

Story plot:

Nick and Langston went to LA chasing Nate Haskell at the end of last season and both went rogue out there. Catherine, being the immediate supervisor caught the grief and was demoted. This allows Danson to be introduced into the cast correcting the producers error of not making Langston a supervisor. While in LA, we met CSI Morgan Brody, who is Ecklie's daughter. She helped out Nick and Langston in the LA episodes and caught hell from the LA locals for it so it would appear she got canned and is now in Vegas trying to get Daddy to get her a job and because Nick went rogue, Ecklie is trying to get rid of Nick, hence the Russell comment to Ecklie that he would hate to lose Nick, presumed to be replaced by Brody. But in reality, and what hasn't been broadcast yet, Nick stays and Brody is added in some capacity.

Now you are up to date.

Funny if Mary S. showed up as his wife.

Don't give them any ideas! (unless they pay you for it!) :D

But in reality, and what hasn't been broadcast yet, Nick stays and Brody is added in some capacity.

She is, in effect, replacing Katherine.

The way they showcased her last year, I knew they were going to be using her for something else in the future.

Danson is fine in the role, quirky enough to fit in, enough baggage to make him interesting. Funny if Mary S. showed up as his wife.

Please! That's been done to death by many shows in the past. One was done just last night.

She is, in effect, replacing Katherine.

While factually true, as far as the story line goes, both are there.

The way they showcased her last year, I knew they were going to be using her for something else in the future.

That was obvious.

Please! That's been done to death by many shows in the past. One was done just last night.

Who? fill me in...

Who? fill me in...

Ray Ramone was a guest on The Middle, reunited with Patricia Heaton complete with "haven't I seen you somewhere before" lines.

Really like Ted Danson and his character. Never though Fishburne and his character worked that well. He will not be missed by me.

There's always someone. In this instance it's me. I thought Ted Danson was a buffoon. Do not like the character at all. Makes me miss the Fishperson.

I do think they've done a decent continuity plot job with Catherine demoted, a new supervisor, new CSI from the rogue LA fiasco etc.

I liked it with Ted, skipped out after Grissom left, may tune in now and again with Ted on board..

It is all tyed into the the Langston characters meltdown from last season and Fishbourne's departure. This is what the producers are using to help Helgenberger back out as well.

Story plot:

Nick and Langston went to LA chasing Nate Haskell at the end of last season and both went rogue out there. Catherine, being the immediate supervisor caught the grief and was demoted. This allows Danson to be introduced into the cast correcting the producers error of not making Langston a supervisor. While in LA, we met CSI Morgan Brody, who is Ecklie's daughter. She helped out Nick and Langston in the LA episodes and caught hell from the LA locals for it so it would appear she got canned and is now in Vegas trying to get Daddy to get her a job and because Nick went rogue, Ecklie is trying to get rid of Nick, hence the Russell comment to Ecklie that he would hate to lose Nick, presumed to be replaced by Brody. But in reality, and what hasn't been broadcast yet, Nick stays and Brody is added in some capacity.

Now you are up to date.


I agree with all this. The past is correct. Katherine got demoted for "letting the dogs run" and Haskell gets dead. It is well know that Marge Helgenberger (katherine) is leaving this year. So... DB gets hired as CSI supervisor (new blood, fresh ideas), Marge demoted, gets disgruntled and leaves in Jan/Feb. (as widely reported). Nick is asst/night supervisor, Brody hired to replace Marges's "slot". Sara Sidle goes full time this year as well, basically replacing Hodge's love interest in Wendy Simms, the lab rat .

touching episode telling about where the cast was on 9/11/01. Heard Gary Senise on the radio this week talking about how the episode would feature the Brooklyn Wall of Remembrance. Gary was a big part of the walls building since more than 1/3 of the firemen were from that borough. Evey NY'er including myself knows where they were on that date..Nice job Gary!!
http://thebrooklynwall.org/index.html

I miss Wendy. :(

I miss Wendy. :(

anyone notice her in the funeral scene on 2 1/2 men last week ?

anyone notice her in the funeral scene on 2 1/2 men last week ?

Yes, she was one of Charlie's "scores".

I really liked last night's episode. Some good story arcs developing that might just breathe some fresh air into the show.

I really like Ted Danson's character this season, he's a fresh of breath air for being a regular guy, nice contrast to Grissom and Ray Langston. Catherine was barely in the episode so it looks like they are really phasing her out quickly before she finally leaves

how is the show's ratings since moving to Wednesday night after 3 weeks worth ?

I wasn't sure about his character after the first ep, but now I'm convinced - Danson is great on this show.

Ted is a love/hate for many of us. He will always be Sam Malone. Danson may pick up some curious viewers, but after many seasons, they have lost our family.

I just got caught up on CSI. I had my doubts about Danson when I heard he was joining the cast, but he is a welcome change from Fishburne. Fishburne is a great actor and his character was interesting, but the show lost its underlying current of dark humor that it had with William Peterson. Too many episodes revolved around the Langston character at the expense of the others.
I've only seen Danson in Cheers and the Three Men and a Baby movies. Never watched him in Becker. His character is no Grissom, but he does lighten the tone a little. I hope he butts heads a little with Eckley.
I wonder if they will explain why Sarah is back. She has not mentioned Grissom at all. Are they still together?

Really going to miss Marg Helgenberger if she goes.

I wonder if they will explain why Sarah is back. She has not mentioned Grissom at all. Are they still together?


They are still together and Grissom made a cameo in one episode. He was mentioned frequently last season, not once this season. It sure makes for an odd storytelling scenario with Sarah being back full time.

I liked the "A" story at the Mob Museum. The "B" story was a bit predictable. Danson's character seems to fit in with the rest of them. Hope they keep the quality up.

Danson's character is growing on me...I'll say that.

I like the former mayor playing himself.. He has been in a few episodes of CSI..Good episode overall.

I really enjoyed this week's episode. The special effects were pretty bad and the timeline was a little off, but the story itself was really good.

I really enjoyed this week's episode. The special effects were pretty bad and the timeline was a little off, but the story itself was really good.

The CGI of the helicopter in flight was awful. In one transition the pilot looked like a static image and then "came to life" when they transitioned to the actual live actor, it was terrible.

I really enjoyed this week's episode. The special effects were pretty bad and the timeline was a little off, but the story itself was really good.What? You thought the CSI team got to the ghost town a little too quickly? :D I liked the ep pretty well too. Ecklie's character sure has morphed over the years.


ron

Overall I thought this week's show was really good, perhaps a bit too melodramatic, but then again I still don't like Eckley. Probably never will. I agree some of the CGI was pretty bad. Danson again was excellent. So was Eric Szmanda. Hopefully the show will have a comeback in the ratings.

I agree, i also enjoyed this weeks episode however i honestly though that this could be made into a much better episode in terms of its ending, i thought it was a bit too abrupt, good build up, good plot.
Maybe Brodie could have been kidknapped by the gang, etc and move on from there splitting over a couple of episodes..
The CGI was poor and there is no denying that but this didnt deter me from the show in any way.

Looking forward to next week. :D

Looking forward to next week. :D

Next week is a repeat from last season.

Elisabeth Shue to replace Marg Helgenberger on "CSI"By Brent Lang

LOS ANGELES (TheWrap.com) - In a long and varied film and television career, Elisabeth Shue has played a stripper with a heart of gold, a babysitter lost in the big city and Marty McFly's love interest.

But she's never nailed a serial killer using DNA evidence while The Who blared on the soundtrack -- until now.

Cue up "Who Are You," the Oscar nominee is joining the cast of "CSI: Crime Scene Investigation," CBS announced Friday.

The "Leaving Las Vegas" star replaces Marg Helgenberger, who is exiting the show after playing a blood splatter analyst for 12 seasons.

Shue will first appear on the series on February 15.

Some additional info:

Shue will play the newest CSI, fresh off an anger management course, amid rumors that D.B. Russell (Danson) fired her when she worked for him in Seattle. She will succeed Marg Helgenberger, who is departing her full-time gig on CSI in January but is expected to return for occasional guest sports, reprising her role as Catherine Willows.

http://www.thewrap.com/sites/default/files/resize/attfe93d-285x184.jpg

http://www.deadline.com/2011/11/csis-new-leading-lady-elisabeth-shue-to-replace-marg-helgenberger-on-cbs-series/


When they showed the recent scene of Catherine being offered the new gig I felt a twinge of nostalgia knowing she was on the way out, but I suspect Ms Shue will fill in quite nicely.


ron

I'll miss Marg although she wasn't the looker she was 12 or even 5 years ago.
Actually I haven't watched a one CSI this year:eek: LV or NY, but my Tivo is watching them all......at this rate it will be the summer doldrums before I get a chance to clear out my CSI folders:o

I can appreciate those that like Ted Danson, however I certainly think he's a distraction for me. I will say he's growing on me, but comparing his ability, up against Fishburne's, no comparism,...Fishburne hands down. I fully realize the cast changes are inevitable, however, the Vegas crew's dilution, and just overall trending in the wrong direction. We're finding ourselves drawn toward the Miami crew much more-so than ever,..kinda filling the "strong" character gap that I feel the Vegas group is lacking.

We don't lose any sleep over it, as we've got way too much material on the DVR as is. But no question; in our opinion, Danson was a step in the wrong direction for the show. It's actually a relief,...as shows deteriorate in their appeal, we're less compelled to catch them,...and that's a good thing.


Thanks

I can appreciate those that like Ted Danson, however I certainly think he's a distraction for me. I will say he's growing on me, but comparing his ability, up against Fishburne's, no comparism,...Fishburne hands down. I fully realize the cast changes are inevitable, however, the Vegas crew's dilution, and just overall trending in the wrong direction. We're finding ourselves drawn toward the Miami crew much more-so than ever,..kinda filling the "strong" character gap that I feel the Vegas group is lacking.

We don't lose any sleep over it, as we've got way too much material on the DVR as is. But no question; in our opinion, Danson was a step in the wrong direction for the show. It's actually a relief,...as shows deteriorate in their appeal, we're less compelled to catch them,...and that's a good thing.


ThanksIf you're thinking of Caruso when you refer to a strong character I'm just the opposite. I tried to watch Miami for about half it's first season but I just couldn't get into it. To me, Caruso's character was so over the top that the role appeared to be aiming for a caricature of the prototypical hard ass buffoon. Maybe it's changed since but I checked in periodically over the first couple seasons and if anything it was even worse. Actually the whole show seemed to be done in the same mode, from the hugely over saturated colors to the even more "out there" technological stretches than Vegas has. And I actually really liked Caruso in his single season on NYPD Blue way back when too... Different strokes :)


ron

If you're thinking of Caruso when you refer to a strong character I'm just the opposite. I tried to watch Miami for about half it's first season but I just couldn't get into it... Actually the whole show seemed to be done in the same mode, from the hugely over saturated colors...

I agree 100%. Our family likes both LV and NY but CAN'T STAND Miami! The colors are definitely part of what we don't like. To each his own I guess:)

Never have liked Caruso since he left NYPD Blue. Just seemed to arrogant IMO. That's the main reason I could never get into Miami. Really like the other two.

Didn't like Caruso on NYPD Blue either..... Hold your head up straight dammit!

If you're thinking of Caruso when you refer to a strong character I'm just the opposite. I tried to watch Miami for about half it's first season but I just couldn't get into it. To me, Caruso's character was so over the top that the role appeared to be aiming for a caricature of the prototypical hard ass buffoon. Maybe it's changed since but I checked in periodically over the first couple seasons and if anything it was even worse. Actually the whole show seemed to be done in the same mode, from the hugely over saturated colors to the even more "out there" technological stretches than Vegas has. And I actually really liked Caruso in his single season on NYPD Blue way back when too... Different strokes :)


ron

No, I'm not just referring to Caruso (although we all cheer him on mockingly), I like the police chief guy, and the variety of expendable bad guys seems to be a higher caliber of actor than their equivalent extras on the Vegas show. I do agree on the colors, they utilize every trick in the book, ie polarizing, saturation, and tons of color graduated stuff, that yes,...is a bit much.

We more fell onto the Miami crew merely because we enjoy the entire CSI premise,..and we've become a little burned out on the Vegas show. Now all that said, we rarely miss either,..and, we've never, not a single time,.. seen the NY group.

It's all so subjective, it takes a while "to buy" in to a character. It's merely to wind down, vege out before bed. We don't care for any sitcom stuff, we gravitate toward action genre.

No, I'm not just referring to Caruso (although we all cheer him on mockingly), I like the police chief guy, and the variety of expendable bad guys seems to be a higher caliber of actor than their equivalent extras on the Vegas show. I do agree on the colors, they utilize every trick in the book, ie polarizing, saturation, and tons of color graduated stuff, that yes,...is a bit much.

We more fell onto the Miami crew merely because we enjoy the entire CSI premise,..and we've become a little burned out on the Vegas show. Now all that said, we rarely miss either,..and, we've never, not a single time,.. seen the NY group.

It's all so subjective, it takes a while "to buy" in to a character. It's merely to wind down, vege out before bed. We don't care for any sitcom stuff, we gravitate toward action genre.Miami did seem to be much more "action" oriented...


ron

I don't care for Miami either.But I watch it because of the CSI premise.Is there anyone over 30 besides Horatio and the bald cop,living in Miami?Nothing but young beautiful people who spend all their time around swimming pools.Just seems so ....artificial.

I can't watch CSI: Miami because of Caruso. How can this guy not know how much of a really bad actor he is? Maybe he does but is laughing all the way to the bank.

I watched Miami for a while but it jumped the shark when that younger CSI, Eric, was shot in the head and was back at work three or four shows later. Plus I like Vegas more because it is more science-oriented and I been watching ever since it started.

Very good episode tonight.

I like it when they focus on the other characters sometimes. Hodges was his old annoying self again. Good to see Pamela Reed back on TV again too.

Just when you think the show is losing its edge, they crank out an excellent episode like this one.

Wow, good closure for Kathrine.

Good 2-parter as well.

Two very good episodes.

Nice job...Glad they didn't kill Marg off, and she sure is a fast healer, huh...How about a last scene of her having Coffee with Billy Petersen, wouldn't that have been something?
Strip Club was invigorating...

I also thought that Grissom would make a cameo appearance. Hope Marg stops by once in a while as an FBI investigator to help the lab. Good 2-parter..

When is she going? Will it be for good?

When is she going? Will it be for good?

Already gone. This has been pretty widely known since she announced last summer she was leaving the show and CBS has been hyping it up like crazy since the holidays. Marge is out and Elisabeth Shue (the Babysitter) is in!

Sorry, I don't follow those gossip type, Hollywood, rumor mill sites. :o
Elisabeth Shue the replacement?? What a switch that will be. Looks like she aged a bit;

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2296285696/nm0000223

Marge is out and Elisabeth Shue (the Babysitter) is in!

I honestly thought that last shot in the diner was going to be Marg talking to Shue when they didn't show the blonde's face for a while.

Already gone. This has been pretty widely known since she announced last summer she was leaving the show and CBS has been hyping it up like crazy since the holidays. Marge is out and Elisabeth Shue (the Babysitter) is in!

Yep, but after all the hype, it kinda ended in a whimper didn't it?! Months of promos... 2 "nail biting" episodes (from the promo talk)... but the only exit talk took about about 5 minutes at the end! Seems they could have had her wrestling a little more throughout with the option, talking to DB maybe about it, then working up to the end.

I think we'd been primed enough. Short and sweet, excellent!

Damn. Emotional episode.

What a bizarre story. Chemicals in the eyes :eek: ha

The thing that makes me furious on the CSI and most other police shows is when a citizen is in danger the cop or CSI never initiate radio calls the nearest patrol units. The CSI's should always be met at the door by the responding cops who arrived 3-10 minutes earlier.

At least the Las Vegas crew do not follow Horatio Caine's entry. Order of entry: Caine (with his pistol) first, followed be the less capable SWAT team.

Damn. Emotional episode.

What a bizarre story. Chemicals in the eyes :eek: ha
Agree, it was particularly disturbing:eek:

The thing that makes me furious on the CSI and most other police shows is when a citizen is in danger the cop or CSI never initiate radio calls the nearest patrol units. The CSI's should always be met at the door by the responding cops who arrived 3-10 minutes earlier...

I thought the same thing, I mean some cop must have been closer than waiting for CSI to make it out of the lab, get in a car and drive to the scene:rolleyes: it's one of those things I have to overlook to be able to enjoy the show:)

The thing that makes me furious on the CSI and most other police shows is when a citizen is in danger the cop or CSI never initiate radio calls the nearest patrol units. The CSI's should always be met at the door by the responding cops who arrived 3-10 minutes earlier.

At least the Las Vegas crew do not follow Horatio Caine's entry. Order of entry: Caine (with his pistol) first, followed be the less capable SWAT team.

I thought the same thing, I mean some cop must have been closer than waiting for CSI to make it out of the lab, get in a car and drive to the scene:rolleyes: it's one of those things I have to overlook to be able to enjoy the show:)I can suspend the disbelief up to a point since they really do have to juice things up a bit to make things interesting for the viewer. LV treads right on the line for me as to being too blatant. Agree that Miami was way over the top though, at least in the first 1/2 season or so that I watched before bailing.


ron

csi's do not interview witnesses or suspects
they are not trained to do so

Not even sure they carry guns.

Agree. NCIS for the most part has it right. The special agents do the investigating and enforcement stuff while Ducky and Abby do the lab stuff.

I sometimes wonder if the detectives in the homicide squad do nothing but play cards during their shifts. Seems Brass can handle the entire load.

I sometimes wonder if the detectives in the homicide squad do nothing but play cards during their shifts. Seems Brass can handle the entire load.

I guess he can handle it now since they went from two crimes per episode down to one in recent years.

If you watched last night, we found out DB's real first name. Or was that revealed earlier in the season?
Decent episode but I saw ending coming. Shue joined the cast. She seemed to have good chemistry with DB and Greg. I don't think she talked to the other CSIs.

I got caught up on Marg's last two shows. Pretty good farewell shows. I liked all the nods to Catherine's past. I thought the goodbye scene was tacked on though.

The Shue character does not bode well for this series. How long will she and DB smirk at each other?

If you watched last night, we found out DB's real first name.
I almost laughed myself out of my chair when I saw that it was 'Diebenkorn'.:D

I thought Shue was pretty good, but we'll see how well her character develops. She starred in my favorite movie of all time (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113627/), so she gets a lot of latitude from me...

Amnesia: thought you were going to refer to "Back to the Future". Wasn't she Michael J. Fox's girl in both of them? Give her a few more episodes..

Amnesia: thought you were going to refer to "Back to the Future". Wasn't she Michael J. Fox's girl in both of them? Give her a few more episodes..

No, she played Jennifer in 2 and 3, some other actress played her in the first one.

Whenever I think Elizabeth Shue I think of the first movie I saw her in - Adventures in Babysitting. She was super hot in Palmetto though.

Anyway, I liked this week's ep.

Lea Thompson was in BttF 1. She was in the news today saying something about her interest in a BttF Broadway show...

Lea Thompson was in BttF 1. She was in the news today saying something about her interest in a BttF Broadway show...

Lea Thompson was the mom.

I thought Thompson played his mother.

Sorry, you're right. It was Claudia Wells (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0920148/).

I know, I know: who?!?

Shue was really good in Hollow Man.
We'll see what they do with her on CSI. I wonder how they keep coming up with ideas for cases.

I'm trying to decide if she might be DB's sister, or perhaps sister -in-law. There is much more going on there for them to explore. She seems to fit right in, CSI is taking a page from Law and Order with the revolving cast, it served them well for 20 years.

I tuned in just for Shue and it didn't disappoint. Glad to see her in something since... uh, The Saint? (for me anyway)

Shue to me will always be Ali in The Karate Kid. Gotta say, it's been a while since I've seen her last. Damn she looks much older now.

I'm trying to decide if she might be DB's sister, or perhaps sister -in-law. There is much more going on there for them to explore. She seems to fit right in, CSI is taking a page from Law and Order with the revolving cast, it served them well for 20 years.Yes, definitely curious as to the background between them. A lot of very pointed dialog between them so far.


ron

Were is CSI: NY now? Used to look forward to Friday nite doubleheader with CSI leading into Blue Bloods...Last night was "A Gifted Man".

It's off the schedule (http://www.csifiles.com/content/2011/12/cbs-alters-midseason-schedule-puts-csiny-on-6-week-hiatus/) until 30 March.

And likely not coming back next season either

^^^NY or regular CSI?

Ny

Last I read NY and Miami are both down for the count, Don't watch either so I really don't care.

I wonder how they keep coming up with ideas for cases.

Maybe she'll wind up being a serial killer that only targets other serial killers. ;)

Tonight's the night ....

Humm ... clearly I've been watching too much TV.

Last I read NY and Miami are both down for the count.TV By the Numbers (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/19/nielsen-conspiracies-buy-alcatraz-extra-time-on-the-bubble-supernatural-fans-dont-suck/120683/) describes NY as "on the bubble" and both LV and Miami as "Likely Renewal".

TV By the Numbers (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2012/02/19/nielsen-conspiracies-buy-alcatraz-extra-time-on-the-bubble-supernatural-fans-dont-suck/120683/) describes NY as "on the bubble" and both LV and Miami as "Likely Renewal".

:mad:11 of my season passes are on the Canceled, Certain Cancellation or Likely Cancellation list:( 4 are on the bubble and 11 are on the Likely Renewal or Certain Renewal list.
Looks like I'll be watching less TV....
Thanks for that list, quite interesting:)

This is what I was referring to-- From Hot off the Press:

Nielsen Notes (Broadcast)
Dim outlook for a longtime staple: Cops
Two of the top police procedurals are at risk of cancellation
By Toni Fitzgerald, Media Life Magazine - Feb. 15, 2012

Years ago it seemed the networks couldn't air enough police procedurals like "Law & Order" and "CSI," but that is no longer the case.

While the "NCIS" programs continue to thrive, the only broadcast show left in the "Law & Order" franchise may be canceled this May, and at least one, if not two, "CSI" editions are also in danger.

All three shows have put up series-low numbers this season. NBC's "Law & Order: Special Victims Unit" is averaging a 2.1 adults 18-49 rating this season in the Wednesday 10 p.m. timeslot, third among the Big Three in the hour.

"CSI: NY," now in its eighth season, is averaging a 1.7 rating on Friday night, where it is tied for first in its 9 p.m. timeslot with NBC's "Grimm."

And "CSI: Miami" is averaging a 2.2 at 10 p.m. Sunday, down a full point from what it averaged two seasons ago, when it aired on Mondays.

Shows become more expensive to produce as they age, with stars' salaries and production costs rising. When ratings start to drop into the low 2s and high 1s, most aging shows are no longer worth the price.

If any are canceled, it should come as no surprise.

CBS Entertainment President Nina Tassler said during the Television Critics Association tour last month that "CSI: NY" could be gone after this season, because it's simply not pulling strong enough numbers.

Bob Greenblatt, who took over as NBC Entertainment chairman last year, does not have a history with "SVU," which had been running for a decade before he took over the network. And Greenblatt already canceled one "L&O" show, "Law & Order: Los Angeles," last May.

"CSI: Miami" has the highest ratings of the three and so might be safe for one more season. But it seems doubtful that two more seasons are a possibility, not with ratings dropping the way they have.

Of the three, "SVU" seems most likely to be axed. The show lost its male lead last year, Christopher Meloni, and the drama has undeniably suffered creatively without him.

Should "SVU" be canceled, it would mark the first time in more than two decades that NBC has been without a "L&O" on its schedule.

"NCIS" is the only cop franchise that continues to thrive, and one reason is because the original is much younger than the original "CSI" and "L&O," as is its spinoff.


http://www.medialifemagazine.com/artman2/publish/Broadcastrecap_64/Dim-outlook-for-a-longtime-staple-Cops.asp


If CBS has a strong pilot season, both could be gone...

Shue was really good in Hollow Man.
We'll see what they do with her on CSI. I wonder how they keep coming up with ideas for cases.

Watch the news.

Elisabeth Shue did an OK job this week.

Nothing about her character stood out, I think. Other than than the chain saw part :p
Will be interesting to see where this leads.

Good episode as well. Never heard of a house being stolen.

I think I might tune in every week now, I don't know what's keeping me around since there's really not THAT much of Shue.

Yeah, I'll be sticking around for a while til it goes stale again.

I keep watching the show because it is well produced (except for an occasional bad script which didn't use to happen). I was skeptical about Danson but I think he has done a remarkable job in his role.

I keep watching the show because it is well produced (except for an occasional bad script which didn't use to happen). I was skeptical about Danson but I think he has done a remarkable job in his role.
They've obviously made a concerted effort to make DB Russell extra loopy, if you will which he is playing over the top but entertainingly. This must be to contrast with the ultra serious, intense Langston.

Shue eerily looks like a younger Catherine but she continues to be over the top in her flirtatious delivery.

The coroner's daughter seems college like. She doesn't seem too professional but hey, she's cute.

The coroner's daughter seems college like. She doesn't seem too professional but hey, she's cute.You mean the sheriff's daughter?

You mean the sheriff's daughter?Isn't the little blonde Doc Robbins daughter? Maybe I mixed it up.?

Edit: Ok Elisabeth Harnois plays CSI Morgan Brody, daughter of Conrad Ecklie, Assistant Director of the Clark County Crime Lab. I should have remembered the "helicopter" episode. That was a good one.

BTW, what's the speculation on the history between DB and Shue's character? Were they romantically involved?

shs is Conrad Ecklie's (Undersheriff) daughter although she took her stepfather's last name

BTW, what's the speculation on the history between DB and Shue's character? Were they romantically involved?

At this point I'd say it's a toss-up between the above as option A or option B: other familial relation (i.e. Brother/Sister.) I think you could make the case either way.

I'm thinking either Brother/Sister or Uncle/Niece.

I was kinda thinking ex-wife or mistress or something. But the family tie could make sense . . .

Is there necessarily any further history beyond their previous working relationship where DB fired her (for some reason...)?


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Good episode last night.

what's with the wig stokes is wearing?
very distracting!

what's with the wig stokes is wearing?
very distracting!

Ha.

I also noticed this. I thought it was only a new haircut style though. You're saying it's a wig? :eek:

His hair sure did look "off".

Ha.

I also noticed this. I thought it was only a new haircut style though. You're saying it's a wig? :eek:

His hair sure did look "off".

i don't know for sure but if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck

Whatever it is, it wasn't an improvement. Someone needs to tell him the wethead is dead.

I said the same thing to my wife. He really needs to go back to the shorter hair, because this look is not working for him. She mentioned it looked like he had a combover to try and hide a bald spot.

My wife commented a few weeks ago his hair looks worse than it does now.

I hadn't really noticed this before. But we watched the latest episode on DVR last night. THANKS to everybody for giving me something new to bother me. :D

Somebody should dust that wig for fingerprints!! Noticed it right away, go back to the dry look Nick..

Is there necessarily any further history beyond their previous working relationship where DB fired her (for some reason...)?


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Yet to be told.

I see Stokes is still sporting whatever that thing is that's on his head.....anyone know what's up with that? Is he doing it just to generate buzz, or does he think it looks really good, or is he covering up a lobotomy scar?

I just looked up Ted Danson's and Elisabeth Shue's ages to see if they could possibly go for the father/daughter angle. It would be a stretch as Danson is only 16 yrs. older.

I seriously doubt it will be a romantic angle because a couple of episodes ago the son was on and he knew Shue's character and they were friendly. I think he even said something to the effect that they should all get together meaning him, his mother, DB and Finn.

I'm gonna go with sister or sister-in-law.

I see Stokes is still sporting whatever that thing is that's on his head.....anyone know what's up with that? Is he doing it just to generate buzz, or does he think it looks really good, or is he covering up a lobotomy scar?

I don't know if his weird hair is for another role, but back in 2003, Eads grew some long furry sideburns for a role in a Selleck Western. He admitted it looked funny on CSI, but said there wasn't much he could do about it.

Was ok, still watching.

Just caught this week's episode. Started out as a fairly typical CSI with a somewhat bizarre crime scene, but it had a pretty good climax. Liked the B story involving Hodges and his mother. It was sure good to see Jaclyn Smith on TV again, still a beautiful lady. One of the better ones from this season. Hope they can keep up the quality, and the characters are basically clicking again for me.

Just caught this week's episode. Started out as a fairly typical CSI with a somewhat bizarre crime scene, but it had a pretty good climax. Liked the B story involving Hodges and his mother. It was sure good to see Jaclyn Smith on TV again, still a beautiful lady. One of the better ones from this season. Hope they can keep up the quality, and the characters are basically clicking again for me.

Yeah! She was my favorite Angel!

We just caught up too. Good episdoe. I thought I recalled Hodgins talking about being a homebody in the past with his mother. Like he lived with her or something? I sometimes get my crime drama's crossed, especially since they all use the same character molds.

OH MAN What!? First I get my catheter out, then I get my fav Chow Mein, and now watch the newest CSI!?!?!?!? (Split Decisions) OMFG! xD

Elisabeth Harnois is really growin on me too. She looked real cute this episode.

Mr. Freak,

You had a catheter recently? Glad to hear that it's out of there!

I really liked last weeks episode. Take it easy dude.

Thanks, I'm a LOT better now. Yeah... bladder complications (Catheter 3 times) from clavical fracture surgery, go figure. lol...

Biggest issue with the last episode was at the end they were interrogating the kid without an advocate present. Big no-no and something they have always stressed in past episodes with kids as killers. They screwed up there unless I missed something.

That kid was almost as murderous as Carl on TWD.

Murderous? Although any time make's a Carl joke it's funny.

Oh TWD... yeah... wow... what a show... lol...

Nicks hair looks a lot better..:D

Good episode this week.

Nick got his old "do" back. :D

Finally got caught back up. lovin this show. Shue was great in the baseball episode.

Finally got caught back up. lovin this show. Shue was great in the baseball episode.

Just finished watching the baseball episode too. Pretty good storyline. Character dynamics and general tone of the show is really working for me. There seems to a balance that was missing in the past seasons.

So when was Detective Vega killed? I don't remember him being written out.

I don't even remember the episode dOOd. Sorry. lol

Just finished watching the baseball episode too. Pretty good storyline. Character dynamics and general tone of the show is really working for me. There seems to a balance that was missing in the past seasons.

So when was Detective Vega killed? I don't remember him being written out.Remember he was killed in that episode where they found out he was doing vigilante justice killings of cold case perps who hadn't been caught.

Detective Sam Vega portrayed by Geoffrey Rivas (season 1-12): Sam is a former member of the LVPD's gang unit. He has a son who owns comic book collectibles. In the Season 12 episode "Crime After Crime", Detective Vega murders a number of people who escaped justice in cold cases (hired by a dying former detective). He is confronted by Brass and Stokes as he attempts to kill his fourth target but is foiled and instead opts for suicide by cop.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_characters_in_CSI:_Crime_Scene_Investigation


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I think that episode is on CBS right now.

Anyone else think last night's episode was one of the poorest written episode they've ever done?

Anyone else think last night's episode was one of the poorest written episode they've ever done?

Actually, they've all been pretty bad of late IMO. I've pretty much checked out. I recorded it and was "watching" it, but in reality I was doing post-processing in Lightroom on my laptop and not paying attention. Couldn't tell you what happened in the episode - that's how badly it lost my attention.

Anyone else think last night's episode was one of the poorest written episode they've ever done?Didn't think so at all. In fact, I've actually been liking the recent ep's quite a bit and to me the new characters have really injected some needed life into the show. Last night as the ep ended I was thinking that Danson has really settled into the DB role well and the character now seems like the best team leader since Grissom. Don't get me wrong, I always liked Catherine, but something about her being the boss just never really felt right to me somehow...


ron

Maybe I was pretty tired last night and missed some things. But here is what I questioned.

The old man wants to do something to the woman because her company owns the drug company treating his dying wife, so he tries to kill her as she does some off-road racing. And while doing it, he ends up killing someone else in the process. How do you place a bomb on his truck when you want to kill the woman?

The woman's crew members were shot in the hauler in the pits, but no one hears it?

Maybe I was pretty tired last night and missed some things. But here is what I questioned.

The old man wants to do something to the woman because her company owns the drug company treating his dying wife, so he tries to kill her as she does some off-road racing. And while doing it, he ends up killing someone else in the process. How do you place a bomb on his truck when you want to kill the woman?

The woman's crew members were shot in the hauler in the pits, but no one hears it?The old man worked for a mining company and lost his job and retirement. The mining company was owned by the oil company that the lady owned, so he blamed her.

He convinced the three "damaged" guys to form a race team with the idea that he could use their vehicle as a car bomb and use it to kill her when she was near it. He missed and only killed the driver of the truck.

While they didn't explain not hearing the shots, the easy answer is, that as loud as those vehicles can be, if he timed it right people may not have noticed over the exhaust of the race trucks. (more often than not, the portrayal of firearms on TV is far less than accurate)

The old man worked for a mining company and lost his job and retirement. The mining company was owned by the oil company that the lady owned, so he blamed her.

He convinced the three "damaged" guys to form a race team with the idea that he could use their vehicle as a car bomb and use it to kill her when she was near it. He missed and only killed the driver of the truck.

While they didn't explain not hearing the shots, the easy answer is, that as loud as those vehicles can be, if he timed it right people may not have noticed over the exhaust of the race trucks. (more often than not, the portrayal of firearms on TV is far less than accurate)Yes, what Earl said! And I might add, he could have used a silencer that would have made the gun shots even less likely to be heard as well.


ron

I didn't really like last night's episode either. Although, it wasn't horrible.

Anyone else think last night's episode was one of the poorest written episode they've ever done?

I thought it was awful, and I also think the stories have gotten worse lately. This week we're supposed to buy that the big plan was to detonate a bomb close enough to the target to kill her? And we're going to do this in the middle of 100's of square miles of desert, in the middle of a high speed race!? Really? That didn't work, and we end killing off the target's crew with gun? What, the oil exec was immune to bullets?

The plot this week made absolutely no sense at all. This show has been reaching for stories for awhile now, and while it will likely return next season, I think I'm done with it, there's too many better written shows on TV to spend time watching this show struggle to come up with something new each week, a story even more outlandish than the last one.

The old man worked for a mining company and lost his job and retirement. The mining company was owned by the oil company that the lady owned, so he blamed her.

He convinced the three "damaged" guys to form a race team with the idea that he could use their vehicle as a car bomb and use it to kill her when she was near it. He missed and only killed the driver of the truck.

While they didn't explain not hearing the shots, the easy answer is, that as loud as those vehicles can be, if he timed it right people may not have noticed over the exhaust of the race trucks. (more often than not, the portrayal of firearms on TV is far less than accurate)

I got all of that. My point was to blow up his new "buddies" just to get to the woman was dumb IMO. Maybe he wanted to make it look like they killed the woman instead of him. Still, trying to do something like that in the manner in the way it was written was too far-fetched, even for this show.

csi use to be my favorite and a must watch
i was barely able to sit through last episode

I'm afraid you guys who have been watching CSI for realistic, life-like scenarios have apparently been trying to fool yourselves for years then. It's never been realistic since the beginning.


ron

This episode seemed to cast a negative light on those who might want to protest bad corporate policy. It reminded me of some of the anti-antiwar cheapo films from the late 1960s or early 1970s. It's like they have a writer who doesn't like such dissidence.

Surprising, but nice to see Paula Marshall. Rest of the show was Meh.

Maybe I missed it but they never explained how the co-driver got out unscathed.

You didn't miss it....they never explained it.

Yeah . . . wasn't impressed. And I've liked this season with DB better than most recent seasons (which isn't saying much :rolleyes: )

For as lame as last week's show was, this week's was pretty good. Nice cliffhanger to end it.

So what do we have? Danson's granddaughter kidnapped, the undersheriff shot, Shue being watched...didn't anyone go after Stokes? The "karma" message suggested that the ex-sheriff was behind it, but it seems that Stokes would be much higher on his hit list than Shue...

Isn't Eads' contract up, and whether he re-signs or not determines if his character leaves or stays?

My my, that was a busy episode :eek:

Pretty good, though. Kinda eery at the end, you knew somethings were happening to somebody. Very suspenseful few minutes . . .

was that the last eppy of the season? Good send off if it was..

Yes, it was....

Isn't Eads' contract up, and whether he re-signs or not determines if his character leaves or stays?

I read in a recent article both Eads and Fox have now signed a contract for next year.

was that the last eppy of the season?Yes.

wow!

Good season finale.

But... no real "season closures". More like.. next season openers :p