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beagle92 03-25-07, 10:47 PM 2. i cant get my 1920 to play dvd movies i make from my Pinnacle Studio 10 dvd software. i was told its the media, but then why does my $49 dvd player from wal-mart play everthing just fine???
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from what i've read in this thread seems like the 1920 has a boat load of issues.
I know this is from an older post, but I have to agree with Denon Kid here. Showing purchased, wide screen DVD's are no problem. But when I try to show home movies I've burned to DVD-R using Pinnacle Studio 10 it is pretty lousy. And my $50 Target DVD player works great.
I've never had it lock up on me, but the menus look lousy, and the video often skips or hesitates. I don't know if this is a Pinnacle codec issue, media, or what the deal is. But when I had to convince my SO to get the fancy, expensive Denon, and then we can't even use it to view home videos, that ain't good.
I have both SXRD and 1920 via HDMI. I've set it upconvert to 1080i and also tried 480p and did not see much difference. However I have not tried the 1920 via component.
Hey guys,
I finally finished reading this 26 page thread. Very imformative and I learned quite a bit, but have a few question if you guys don't mind.
I have not noticed any difference in PQ from my 1920 and my 60a2000 SXRD, from 480P,720P and 1080i. I'm using HDMI output, since I can not notice a difference generally speaking should I leave the 1920 in 480p and let the TV do the scaling.
I'm also using 2 sets of component video cables from mononprice for my 5.1 SACD and DVD-A. Is this okay? I read a few pages back when someone recommended doing this. It works, I just never knew these cables could be used for sound.
Hey guys,
I finally finished reading this 26 page thread. Very imformative and I learned quite a bit, but have a few question if you guys don't mind.
I have not noticed any difference in PQ from my 1920 and my 60a2000 SXRD, from 480P,720P and 1080i. I'm using HDMI output, since I can not notice a difference generally speaking should I leave the 1920 in 480p and let the TV do the scaling.
I'm also using 2 sets of component video cables from mononprice for my 5.1 SACD and DVD-A. Is this okay? I read a few pages back when someone recommended doing this. It works, I just never knew these cables could be used for sound.
cyberbri 04-04-07, 12:28 PM I say set the 1920 to whatever the native resolution your display is. It will probably do a better job of scaling, even if you don't notice a difference right now. (I used to not be able to tell a difference between using component and DVI for my HD cable box).
For the 6 audio cables, yes those component cables are fine. I use 2 sets of component cables myself on my 2910.
I say set the 1920 to whatever the native resolution your display is. It will probably do a better job of scaling, even if you don't notice a difference right now. (I used to not be able to tell a difference between using component and DVI for my HD cable box).
For the 6 audio cables, yes those component cables are fine. I use 2 sets of component cables myself on my 2910.
Thanks for the reply. Another question I have is why is my DVD-Audio, not available through the optical/coaxial on these units. Is DVD-A not meant to work this way or is just my player? I noticed it will play, but in 2 channel stereo and Dolby PLII, but not true Dolby Digital.
cyberbri 04-04-07, 04:41 PM Receivers aren't able to decode SACD, DVD-A, etc., so those formats have to be decoded by the player. It down-converts, like you have observed, to 2-channel if you try to output over digital. You need to use the multichannel outputs to listen to these formats properly. You'll want to go into the player's multichannel speaker setup and set the speaker distances, set them to SMALL size, subwoofer on, etc. I believe the xo point in the 1920 is 100Hz. That is unless your receiver has bass management for multichannel inputs. Most don't, which is why you want to do it within the player. (I personally also let my 2910 also decode DD and DTS and use multichannel outputs for that too - as well as 2-channel CD audio).
Hey guys,
I bought a 2910 over the weekend at Magnolia for $199.99 (open box buy). I am not kidding but it was missing the remote. I figured I would sell my 1920 and upgrade since the build quality is so much better on the 2910. There was just a big problem, when I setting up the 2910 on the TV stand I heard something loose inside. Then I turned the unit around and it was missing some screws. So I set it up anyhow, because I wanted to listen and try a couple movies on it. Well guess what the thing never made it out of chapter 1, it would freeze and I changed movies no luck. It would play audio CD's just fine. Bummer I had got a really good deal on it and was willing to buy a remote online. Magnolia is willing to give me a full refund or exchange it for the silver model. Is it worth it though? I think at this point I might as well wait and pay a few hundred more and buy a BD or HD DVD. Is this unit a huge improvement in PQ and sound quality. I am using a Denon AVR-3805 by the way.
P.S. the silver model looks cool, but just doesn't go with rest of my gear. My 3805 is black.
ltempleton 04-16-07, 11:50 AM I'd look elsewhere than Denon. My 1920 had problems playing any recorded DVD. It would lock up and the only way I could restart it was to dig behind my equipment cabinet and unplug the unit, then plug it back in again. Trying to get a helpful response from Denon was a major exercise in frustration. I finally replaced it with a $75 Toshiba which works fine. Much better than the "high quality" Denon. Have you looked at the Oppo units? They seem to offer by far the most for your $$. They even convert SACDs to a 88KHz/24 bit stream which is playable on most AV receivers.
You know, my Denon 1920 has been very reliable. I have never experienced any problems at all. (lucky I guess). I just thought 199.99 for the 2910 was a good deal and thought why not upgrade and sell my 1920 or put it in another room. I'm just now thinking for a few hundred more I might as well wait for the new Sony Blue Ray or something like that.
Chris Gerhard 04-17-07, 03:50 PM You know, my Denon 1920 has been very reliable. I have never experienced any problems at all. (lucky I guess). I just thought 199.99 for the 2910 was a good deal and thought why not upgrade and sell my 1920 or put it in another room. I'm just now thinking for a few hundred more I might as well wait for the new Sony Blue Ray or something like that.
The new upcoming Sony Bu-ray player might be worth waiting for. Moving to one of the next generation DVD formats is a good idea, and I think Blu-ray will survive since the CE manufactoring support is good and studio support with software is good. Unfortunately, I think as long as both formats survive, neither will do very well in terms of market share. I have both HD DVD and Blu-ray and I would like to see HD DVD go bye bye.
Chris
Hey guys,
I finally finished reading this 26 page thread. Very imformative and I learned quite a bit, but have a few question if you guys don't mind.
I have not noticed any difference in PQ from my 1920 and my 60a2000 SXRD, from 480P,720P and 1080i. I'm using HDMI output, since I can not notice a difference generally speaking should I leave the 1920 in 480p and let the TV do the scaling.
I'm also using 2 sets of component video cables from mononprice for my 5.1 SACD and DVD-A. Is this okay? I read a few pages back when someone recommended doing this. It works, I just never knew these cables could be used for sound.
I'm back, because I noticed something by accident and I'm not sure who is doing this.
Awhile back I purchased 2 set of 3FT component video cables (RG59/U) for my 1920 to use for DVD-A and SACD. I always wondered by the way although I took someone's recommendation here to go this route. Well this afternoon I popped in a DVD movie and did not my Denon 3805 was in the EXT.IN mode. I was watching the Matrix and noticed the dialogue coming from the FL speaker. So then I flipped the 3805 to Auto for DD processing and the dialogue was coming from the center speaker. Okay so then I check the analog connections on the back of the receiver and 1920 everthing was snug and in the right place. I had 2 sets of composite r/w/y cables laying around, just never used them because they were too long. So I remove the component and re-install with composite, then turn everything back on and tada! Dialogue coming from the center much louder and clear. I said well heck let me pop in a SACD..........aha so this is why everyone is so excited about SACD and DVDA. I honestly wasn't impressed at first, but I see what the problem was now. I'm a believer yet I'm disappointed this format is not being supported.
So I'm going to return these component and exchange for 2 set of composite cables 3FT, I never knew there was a difference I guess or bothered to check the specs. I thought an RCA was an RCA. Am I right or is it possible maybe one of the component cables were defective.
Another question is, where is the base management if any on the 1920?
Chris Gerhard 04-25-07, 09:32 AM I'm back, because I noticed something by accident and I'm not sure who is doing this.
Awhile back I purchased 2 set of 3FT component video cables (RG59/U) for my 1920 to use for DVD-A and SACD. I always wondered by the way although I took someone's recommendation here to go this route. Well this afternoon I popped in a DVD movie and did not my Denon 3805 was in the EXT.IN mode. I was watching the Matrix and noticed the dialogue coming from the FL speaker. So then I flipped the 3805 to Auto for DD processing and the dialogue was coming from the center speaker. Okay so then I check the analog connections on the back of the receiver and 1920 everthing was snug and in the right place. I had 2 sets of composite r/w/y cables laying around, just never used them because they were too long. So I remove the component and re-install with composite, then turn everything back on and tada! Dialogue coming from the center much louder and clear. I said well heck let me pop in a SACD..........aha so this is why everyone is so excited about SACD and DVDA. I honestly wasn't impressed at first, but I see what the problem was now. I'm a believer yet I'm disappointed this format is not being supported.
So I'm going to return these component and exchange for 2 set of composite cables 3FT, I never knew there was a difference I guess or bothered to check the specs. I thought an RCA was an RCA. Am I right or is it possible maybe one of the component cables were defective.
Another question is, where is the base management if any on the 1920?
I have always used composite cables ( two sets of red, white, and yellow) for SACD/DVD-A 5.1 connection but had assumed component cables would work as well at a much greater price. I have to believe something else is going on, but if someone can explain why some component cables won't work, I will listen.
Chris
captdusty 04-25-07, 09:51 AM You really shouldn't be using video cables at all, as they are 75 ohm. Audio cables should be 100 ohm. By using yellow/white/red audio+video cables, you are mixing the two impedances. Ideally, you'd be using 6 cables of the same impedance.
In other words, try 3 high quality stereo pairs.
How it compares with 1930, besides 1080p
cyberbri 04-25-07, 04:00 PM I use two sets of component cables on my 2910, and let the player decode DD, DTS, and all music audio formats. No problems here.
I assume something was wrong with one of the cables where problems were noticed.
Does US version do PAl, to NTSC and if could be made region free?
Chris Gerhard 04-29-07, 11:25 AM How it compares with 1930, besides 1080p
I asked this question earlier are the responses I read indicate most prefer the DVD-1920.
Chris
ltempleton 04-29-07, 12:31 PM I'm so unhappy with my 1920 that it sits unused on the shelf, having been replaced by a far more satisfactory $75 Toshiba player from COSTCO. I would never buy another DVD player from Denon, and maybe not anything else, either.
SunZmSpark 04-29-07, 03:45 PM Does US version do PAl, to NTSC and if could be made region free?
Yes, the 2910 supports PAL to NTSC. There's a hack available to make it region free.
Do you any of you know if would be possible for me to set up my AVR-3805 to turn on my 1920 when I switch inputs on the 3805? If so, how would this be done.
Thanks in advance,
Rick
Yes, the 2910 supports PAL to NTSC. There's a hack available to make it region free.thnx sunny!!mine came with 1.20 firmware and not playing any pal discs man! please advise
thnx
Killroy44 05-07-07, 09:27 AM I have had the 1920 since December of last year and haven't had any issues, until now... now I have the power up locking issue and it has started to exhibit a pausing issue during movies that's EXTREMELY annoying. It will be going along just fine and then freeze for a couple seconds then keep going after skipping a little bit. I thought at first it was at a layer change on the DVD, but its been at times when there logically wouldn't be a layer change so I think it's something else. Should I bother with trying to get these issues addressed with a warranty service or just scrap it and go to a HDDVD/Blu-Ray?
This stuff being said, I've been happy with the player, until now... :(
Chris Gerhard 05-07-07, 11:09 AM I have had the 1920 since December of last year and haven't had any issues, until now... now I have the power up locking issue and it has started to exhibit a pausing issue during movies that's EXTREMELY annoying. It will be going along just fine and then freeze for a couple seconds then keep going after skipping a little bit. I thought at first it was at a layer change on the DVD, but its been at times when there logically wouldn't be a layer change so I think it's something else. Should I bother with trying to get these issues addressed with a warranty service or just scrap it and go to a HDDVD/Blu-Ray?
This stuff being said, I've been happy with the player, until now... :(
Try for a warranty repair. I have both Blu-ray and HD DVD and I use my universal DVD players far more than both combined. The DVD-1920 is a better designed player for DVD-V and of course plays SACD and DVD-A. Toshiba and the Blu-ray manufacturers have built players that exceed the DVD-V performance of the DVD-1920, but I prefer to use a dedicated DVD player for DVD. My Toshiba HD-A1 HD DVD player is clunky operationally and the Samsung BD-P1000 Blu-ray player isn't quite as good in terms of performance.
If you are ready to move on to the next generation, please buy only Blu-ray, two formats for the same thing seems really stupid to me. The reports that HD DVD is better than Blu-ray are total BS. The market for both is struggling and as long as there are two formats, I don't think that ever changes.
Chris
Chris Gerhard 05-07-07, 11:20 AM You really shouldn't be using video cables at all, as they are 75 ohm. Audio cables should be 100 ohm. By using yellow/white/red audio+video cables, you are mixing the two impedances. Ideally, you'd be using 6 cables of the same impedance.
In other words, try 3 high quality stereo pairs.
I have read recommendations that the subwoofer connection should be higher impedence than required for simple L/R and surround analog audio. I believe I read my particular red/white/yellow cables are all 75 ohm. I don't believe there is any requirement that audio cables be 100 ohm and I have never noticed that I have owned even one pair that are.
Chris
Killroy44 06-09-07, 11:16 PM Ok...my issues have gotten worse...before it would just pause, now it completely drops the HDMI signal. If I unplug the HDMI cable and plug it back in, it comes back. I'm sending this to Denon with a laundry list of repairs to be made. Anyone send their 1920 in and have a good experience? I'd rather not send it to Denon simply because of the rediculous turn around. Anyone deal with one of their authorized repair facilities?
Thanks.
Chris Gerhard 07-18-07, 02:44 PM The Denon DVD-756 silver version of this player is available on eBay now at a $99 buy it now asking price. I still like the Oppo universal players a little better, but if someone wants the Denon name, that price is sure hard to beat.
Chris
aboroth00 10-06-07, 11:42 PM Macroblocking with my Denon is pretty severe which is solved partially by connecting it via component. With HDMI, watching a dark scene, macroblocking is too evident to stand. One more problem emerged which i'm not sure whether the problem lies with my TV (Panny 42pc77u) or the dvd player. Most moments, the picture just seems jittery from a regular sitting position of 6 ft away. Upon closer examination, the pixels are in constant motion causing the jitter. Could it be the low quality dvds?
Chris Gerhard 10-12-07, 09:23 AM Macroblocking with my Denon is pretty severe which is solved partially by connecting it via component. With HDMI, watching a dark scene, macroblocking is too evident to stand. One more problem emerged which i'm not sure whether the problem lies with my TV (Panny 42pc77u) or the dvd player. Most moments, the picture just seems jittery from a regular sitting position of 6 ft away. Upon closer examination, the pixels are in constant motion causing the jitter. Could it be the low quality dvds?
No macroblocking here using a Panasonic 720p LCD projector. Overall, I am still happy with this player.
Chris
Ender1962 06-26-08, 11:58 AM I see this thread is a bit old, so I may be talking to nobody, but...
I have a DVD-1920 i bought second-hand. It has a quirk I've never seen before and I'm wondering if someone else has.
If I place a disc in the tray and press the "open/close" button, the unit shuts down completely. No stand-by light, just dead. I have to pull the plug, give it a minute and plug it back in.
However, if I place a disc in the tray and press the power button, the unit shuts down but stays on standby. I can then turn it on using the remote, and it works perfectly until the next time I try to put a disc in the tray.
Any ideas?
ltempleton 06-26-08, 03:02 PM I finally removed the 1920 from my system because it locked up so
frequently. IMHO, junk the Denon and go buy a cheap HDMI toshiba or the like
from Costco. That's what I did and it's light-years better than the Denon.
One man's opinion,
Larry
Acurus-Heiko 06-27-08, 03:24 PM @Ender1962: It seems, your player has a damage. I used the 1920 over three years, but never had that problem. The 1920 is a good player. Please try to reset the player by using the factory settings.
ltempleton 06-27-08, 09:06 PM I'd be delighted to give it a try, but I don't know how. Could you point me in the right direction?
Even when the Denon was functioning properly, I didn't see any difference in picture quality on my Sharp 1080i LCD between the Denon and the $70 Toshiba. The Toshiba does a great job of upresing from DVD to 1080i HDMI. A genuinely superior feature of the Toshiba is its recovery action when it hits a bad patch on a disk. It just keeps moving ahead a sector at a time until it finds one it can read. The Denon just stops.
ltempleton 06-27-08, 09:10 PM Also, the Denon often couldn't read DVD movies that I recorded on my computer in standard DVD format using Nero. It would just lock up and I had to go behind my equipment rack to unplug it and plug it back in to reset it. Very frustrating! The Toshiba plays them all without a hitch.
Ender1962 07-04-08, 10:31 PM @Ender1962: It seems, your player has a damage. I used the 1920 over three years, but never had that problem. The 1920 is a good player. Please try to reset the player by using the factory settings.
How do I reset this to factory settings?
konoyaro 07-04-08, 10:50 PM How do I reset this to factory settings?
Page 32 of the English manual states:
Reset to the Default Settings (except for Ratings Control and VIDEO OUT)
This allows you to return all selections of SETUP (except for Ratings Control and VIDEO OUT) to their default settings.
1. Press the SETUP button in stop mode.
2. Press the Cursor buttons (< or >) to select INITIALIZE, then press the ENTER button.
3. Press the Cursor buttons (∆ or ∇) to select YES, then press the ENTER button.
4. Press the SETUP button to exit.
Ender1962 07-05-08, 11:12 PM Thanks konoyaro. I bought this second hand with no remote or manual. I'll give it a try.
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