Thanks jkhome
IF I ran 2 subs and put one on each side of the stand could I place my 40's on top of the subs or is that a BAD Idea ?

I've read of others doing that, but I wouldn't. A better idea would depend on how high the new subs are going to be. If you could build some sort of extension shelving, that would clear the tops of the subs, to place the speakers above them. To go "by the book", the tweeters of the 40s should be level with your ears, when sittin in the easy chair. Thats why it is best to use stands.

You really didn't mention what it is you want to change, or what is lacking (although many times we don't know until that new piece of equipment is in our rooms :) ) If it's imaging or un-even bass, then definitely move around the speakers.

My room is also untreated, I have my Studio 60s positioned to where the first reflection point is a hall opening on one side, curtain/cellular shaded window on the other. Not perfect, but still works great!

my major complaint is lack of lows for music -HT sounds great
The imaging is great with HT with the grils on the speakers it blends nice against the TV and ya donk even know they are there but again Music the stage is abit narrow -I do get a nice center image but the sound stage does not dissaper

Just curious if anyone has opinions on placement of front ported speakers. It seems reading this forum in the past that people have made a big deal about having the main speakers a good distance from the back and side walls, whether they be front or rear ported. I can understand this for rear ported speakers, but why would it make a big difference in front ported speakers?
My dealer told me front ported speakers can be built in without affecting the sound, so why would they need to be 2 or even 3 feet from the rear wall as some members suggest?
Just looking for opinions on this..... :)

it would also be room dependant but it will also cause the bass to
be a bit boomy if the speaker is to close to a wall.

Studio:

40's v3 Fronts
CC-690 Center
Servo 15 v2 Subwoofer

Rotel RMB1095 AMP, Processed from a Rotel 1067 Receiver

42" Sharp Aquos LCD TV

I am torn on trying new a new pair of speakers
My room is NOT acoustically treated and is kind of a nightmare .
I know Placement is WRONG but its kind of a compromise
Will better power amp help amp in my room (now using a denon 3805) or will $$$ be better spent elseware ?
Also as you see space is limited so an amp like a nufoce (something slim or that can be hidden behind the TV would be great)

You really need to get proper stand and spread the speakers apart. That should improve the sound quality. As far as changing AVR, you need to go really high quality stuff to see noticeable difference. You won't notice much of difference from any mass market AVRs. Try Arcam AVR-350, you may hear difference (.. I am warning you :) )

when is Paradigm going to finally upgrade their website with a write up on the Studio v4's?

When are they going to update their website period.

Just curious if anyone has opinions on placement of front ported speakers. It seems reading this forum in the past that people have made a big deal about having the main speakers a good distance from the back and side walls, whether they be front or rear ported. I can understand this for rear ported speakers, but why would it make a big difference in front ported speakers?
My dealer told me front ported speakers can be built in without affecting the sound, so why would they need to be 2 or even 3 feet from the rear wall as some members suggest?
Just looking for opinions on this..... :)

Regardless of whether the speaker is sealed, front ported, or rear ported, when you place a speaker near a boundary you reinforce the bass frequencies coming from that speaker. The closer you go to a wall, the higher in frequency you will cause the boost. Smaller speakers with less low frequency output may benefit from some boundary reinforcement, while full range floorstanders will become boomy and bloated sounding if they are too close to a wall.

Thanks jkhome
IF I ran 2 subs and put one on each side of the stand could I place my 40's on top of the subs or is that a BAD Idea ?

Unless the subs are tall, your main speakers will probably be too low. In addition, just because you CAN place a sub on each side of the TV, doesn't mean that they will actually sound good there. Getting nice even response from a subwoofer requires careful placement.

I've had my complete (one of the 20's was bad right out of the box & had to be repaired) pair of Studio 20 v4's & CC590 for about 2 weeks now and I was wondering what speaker size setting folks are using. So far thru the break-in period the receiver has been set to large. So far the split between Music & movies has been about 70/30.

It would seem to me to be a waste of speaker not to keep the receiver set to large. Will I have to change the settings to small in order to get the big LFE signal when watching movies?

EdL

I've had my complete (one of the 20's was bad right out of the box & had to be repaired) pair of Studio 20 v4's & CC590 for about 2 weeks now and I was wondering what speaker size setting folks are using. So far thru the break-in period the receiver has been set to large. So far the split between Music & movies has been about 70/30.

It would seem to me to be a waste of speaker not to keep the receiver set to large. Will I have to change the settings to small in order to get the big LFE signal when watching movies?

EdLYour LFE will be piped thru your sub regardless whether the speakers are set to small or large.

It might be a tough decision to figure out whether to set studio 100's to small or large, but it's a no brainer for 20's. Definitely small.

Ed

It would seem to me to be a waste of speaker not to keep the receiver set to large. Will I have to change the settings to small in order to get the big LFE signal when watching movies?

EdL

I never understand this mindset. Those speakers are only solid down to 50 Hz or so....by setting to "small" you are reducing the output from 80 Hz down. How is this "wasting the speaker"?

You should definitely be running the 20s and 590 as small to get the full soundtrack and to get better performance in the midrange.

I never understand this mindset. Those speakers are only solid down to 50 Hz or so....by setting to "small" you are reducing the output from 80 Hz down. How is this "wasting the speaker"?

The 30 Hz between 50 - 80Hz that the speaker will not be producing is being wasted.

You should definitely be running the 20s and 590 as small to get the full soundtrack and to get better performance in the midrange.

Please elaborate on how running them at small results in better performance in the midrange.

EdL

EdL, Just out of curiosity, what was wrong with the speaker? How did you notice there was something wrong with it? Did it have no sound at all, or did it sound strange? Did they replace or repair it?


I've had my complete (one of the 20's was bad right out of the box & had to be repaired) pair of Studio 20 v4's & CC590 for about 2 weeks now and I was wondering what speaker size setting folks are using. EdL

Hi, just upgraded from Studio 20's/470 centre to 40's/570 centre setup. Loved the original setup but jumped on a great deal, turned out not to be worth the extra$. But still sounds terrific. I also have 2 pair of Titans to complete my surround setup.

EdL I am with you on the setting them to large ideas
But this is how it was explained to me
Say you have a trailer full of bricks -would you rather have a Pickup truck to haul it or a honda civic
What I do is use my 40s on large for Music and set them to small for HT

I've had my complete (one of the 20's was bad right out of the box & had to be repaired) pair of Studio 20 v4's & CC590 for about 2 weeks now and I was wondering what speaker size setting folks are using. So far thru the break-in period the receiver has been set to large. So far the split between Music & movies has been about 70/30.

It would seem to me to be a waste of speaker not to keep the receiver set to large. Will I have to change the settings to small in order to get the big LFE signal when watching movies?

EdL

EdL try this and see if it works.

Pick out your favorite DVD and favorite CD, set the speakers to small and listen them. Next set the speakers to large and listen to them again. Repeat as many times as needed until you can decide which way sounds best to YOU.

Once you have made this decision leave it that way for about a month playing a wide variety of DVDs and CDs. After the month switch it and listen to a few DVDs and CDs to see if you made the right decision.

Report back with your results. :)

The 30 Hz between 50 - 80Hz that the speaker will not be producing is being wasted.


Like I said, how is it "wasting it"? A x-over is not a brick wall, with the typical 80 Hz 2nd order x-over, the level will only be 15 dB down at 40 Hz. A sub is designed to cover the range up to 80 Hz. You aren't wasting anything. In fact, by running them large, you are not adequately producing anything below 55-60 Hz or so. Now would you rather "waste" 30 Hz of bandwidth to completely miss out on the bottom 1.5 octaves?


Please elaborate on how running them at small results in better performance in the midrange.
EdL

Look up intermodulation distortion. Besides that, running the speakers small will allow them to play louder WHERE THEY NEED TO and will also be more forgiving to your amplifier(s).

EdL, Just out of curiosity, what was wrong with the speaker? How did you notice there was something wrong with it? Did it have no sound at all, or did it sound strange? Did they replace or repair it?

It sounds raspy and got progressively worse as the volume increased. The speaker was unlistenable. The dealer wound up ordering a new woofer & did a replacement instead of ordering a new speaker.

EdL

EdL try this and see if it works.

Pick out your favorite DVD and favorite CD, set the speakers to small and listen them. Next set the speakers to large and listen to them again. Repeat as many times as needed until you can decide which way sounds best to YOU.

Once you have made this decision leave it that way for about a month playing a wide variety of DVDs and CDs. After the month switch it and listen to a few DVDs and CDs to see if you made the right decision.

Report back with your results. :)


Will give this a whirl.

EdL

Besides that, running the speakers small will allow them to play louder WHERE THEY NEED TO and will also be more forgiving to your amplifier(s).
would you recommend setting Monitor 7s to small as well?

would you recommend setting Monitor 7s to small as well?You want to set pretty much any speaker to small as long as you have a sub. If you have a sub, I'd set all of your speakers to small, so I would recommend it.

-K

would you recommend setting Monitor 7s to small as well?

Most definitely. Even though the M7 has a good usable low end response (down to 32Hz in room), they will play cleaner at higher volumes by setting them to small and letting the sub handle from 60 to 80 Hz on down (depending on where you set your cross-over). In fact, many people are realizing now that setting even larger, virtually full range speakers (like the Monitor 11s), to small results in a cleaner and even more dynamic sound.

Most definitely. Even though the M7 has a good usable low end response (down to 32Hz in room), they will play cleaner at higher volumes by setting them to small and letting the sub handle from 60 to 80 Hz on down (depending on where you set your cross-over). In fact, many people are realizing now that setting even larger, virtually full range speakers (like the Monitor 11s), to small results in a cleaner and even more dynamic sound.
thanks. another question, should the crossover dial on the back of the sub (PDR-8) be set to approximately the same frequency as the sub crossover frequency in the AVR? i'm assuming yes. right now i have them set both to 90 Hz. thx

thanks. another question, should the crossover dial on the back of the sub (PDR-8) be set to approximately the same frequency as the sub crossover frequency in the AVR? i'm assuming yes. right now i have them set both to 90 Hz. thx
No - it should be as high as possible. You don't want 2 Xovers working - just one. If Paradigm did it right, they'd let you bypass the Xover in the sub.

Ed

Where are the Reference Studio Series V.4 made..........please tell me they are still made in Canada. Can owners comment on where they are made.

thanks. another question, should the crossover dial on the back of the sub (PDR-8) be set to approximately the same frequency as the sub crossover frequency in the AVR? i'm assuming yes. right now i have them set both to 90 Hz. thx

If you have time and a sound meter, you may want to tweak this. I've had good results with the following setup, which should also be applicable to the PDR-8:

I've worked with the PDR-10, and I've found something interesting: turning down the cross-over on the sub really allows you to boost the low-end, and flattens out the frequency repsonse curve (FR).

I found this info at http://www.audio-ideas.com/reviews/ht_loudspeakers/paradigm-stylus.html. The FR chart shows that, by moving the sub's cross-over down to 90Hz (I use 100Hz), that you can turn up the sub, and thus the low ranges, without adding to the 40-100Hz range. I've checked this out on my sub, and the FR results are very flat, less a room induced lull at 45Hz that I would need an equalizer to remove.

jdg

Does the Denon 3805 do well in powering Studio 100's? I listen mostly to classical music, in a 14 x 13 room, not at deafening volumes, either.

Where are the Reference Studio Series V.4 made..........please tell me they are still made in Canada. Can owners comment on where they are made.I believe that they're still made in Canada. Is there some reason that you think they might be made somewhere else?

Ed

Does the Denon 3805 do well in powering Studio 100's? I listen mostly to classical music, in a 14 x 13 room, not at deafening volumes, either.

I have Ordered the Studio 100's and am patiently waiting for them and the rest of my Paradigm speaks to arrive.. With that being said, I went to 2 different dealers, and 1 had them powered up with a Aragon amp 100 x 2 (not sure which model, not that familiar with aragon) and the other with an NAD amp 150wpc, and there was a notible difference on how the speakers came alive with more power. More uhmph in the lower end. I played the same variety of music, and was in quite the same listening environment both times. I believe that with more drivers that the 100's have them, the more power they will take to accurately drive them... Most people will agree with this.
Im confident that they will still sound great with the 120 wpc that Denon 3805 will serve up, but you will notice a huge difference if you can power them with more...
With that In mind I bought a Rotel RMB-1095 at 200 x 5 to power up my soon to be here setup. I will be using both a 5.1 setup with sub, and 2 channel without sub.

Good luck...


***Wooo Hooo Just got my phone call Speakers are IN *****

I believe that they're still made in Canada. Is there some reason that you think they might be made somewhere else?

EdThey are still made in Canada, no doubt about it.

-K

i think their claim is everything is done in house.

Thought I would post some pics of my new speaks, Just got them installed, and they are fantastic... thought I would share.. Now I have to go back and listen some more... :)

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/Warpdrv/home%20theater/IMG_1647-small.jpg
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/Warpdrv/home%20theater/IMG_1645-small.jpg

Congratz Warpdrv
must sound great
are you using a sub also ?
Is your TV sitting on the center speaker ? That would scare me

nice setup also curious which sub and surrounds.

They certainly are eye candy!!! Hope u enjoy them!!! :rolleyes:

Hey thanks guys... Im just loving it...
My setup consists of
Panasonic TH-50PH9UK
Pioneer VSX-81TXV
Rotel amp RMB-1095 200 x 5
Paradigm Studio 100's & 20's, CC-690, .v4
SVS PB12-Plus/2

I will be setting up a 2 channel listening mode, without the sub.. to see how they perform. Running the SVS PB12-Plus/2 is flawless !!! and mesh's quite nicely, and is simply earth shattering to say the least.. The Sub is smokin hot... for movies.. I can't believe how much adjustablility I have with this setup... still playin around !! I will have lots of time to spend configuring, but the Rotel powers these baby's up spectacularly..

I do have my Plasma right on top of my CC-690 for now, but that is not my intention.
I already bought the ASH wood to make a stand to surround my 690 and perch my plasma on top of that.. will be beautiful when done.. but I have to say, I would have no problem leaving it the way it is now.. but I wont.. Its extremely stable, I was concerned as well.
Its just 1 screw holding those feet on but the feet are like an L that supports the weight.
It will be fine for a week or two until I finish the woodwork. :)

Can't say enough about the fit and finish of these speakers. I want to thank everyone here and on other sites for helping me make my final descision, as if it wasn't for you, I wouldn't have even considered them, or known about them.
But they are great !!!

I haven't mounted the 20's yet, as I should be getting my beautiful stands tomorrow, so sadly I must wait.. got these stands in Piano black...
http://www.surroundsolutions.com/contactcommerce/images/large/pianoblacklarge.jpg

And there they sit, the 20's by the fireplace.. :(
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/Warpdrv/home%20theater/AVsetup002.jpg
Warp

Does anyone know why Paradigm has not updated their website with pictures and information on the new v4's (Reference series)????

Doesn't make sense to me....


I found a local place by me who's receiving them this weekend... I'm going to go listen in 2 weeks.... Can't wait.... Heard the v3's about a month ago and was impressed....

Does anyone know why Paradigm has not updated their website with pictures and information on the new v4's (Reference series)????
Doesn't make sense to me....
I found a local place by me who's receiving them this weekend... I'm going to go listen in 2 weeks.... Can't wait.... Heard the v3's about a month ago and was impressed....

I can't agree with you more... I think that is just retarded.. pardon my french..

But they have been shipping .v4 for months... I find it reprehensible...
I would think that they would be damn proud of their new line..
I sure am... :)

Beautiful living room you have there Warp....


Notice much of a difference in the sound of the speakers with the grills off?

I haven't had enough time with grills on and off, as I just got them a short while ago today..

I don't think I will be leaving the grills off, as they are a bit bold looking.. and Im more into a suttle environment... Sleapers as you will... Hidden and lurking behind those pleasent looking grills.. The monsters they are.. I have cranked them up on multiple musical tracks, and have taken them to the limits... and haven't even broken a sweat. Clear and concise!!
Im extremely happy I dumped all my $$ into this setup so far..

Warp

how much are the Studio 100's supposed to retail for? $2400?

I'm eyeing the Studio 60's to be used with a Denon AVR4306, JBL Center & Sub, and probably the Studio 20's as rears....

The owners manual say the speakers are specifically design to be used with the Speaker Grills on. I did try both on and off and can't hear any difference either way.

The MSRP on the 100's is $2499 and the MSRP on the 60's is $1799.

how much are the Studio 100's supposed to retail for? $2400?

I'm eyeing the Studio 60's to be used with a Denon AVR4306, JBL Center & Sub, and probably the Studio 20's as rears....

I would strongly suggest not going with a center channel that is not matched to your mains...
Timbre matching of the front 3 speakers is essential...
Do a search of this and you will find multiple NO No's in this reguard...

here is an example... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=789895&highlight=center+channel

Warp

I just bought a set of Paradigm Monitor V5's consisting of Titans, CC290 and Atoms for rears. I have them crossed over at 80Hz using a Pioneer 56TXI for receiver and a SVS PB12-NSD for a sub. I was watching a movie and the one Atom speaker was crackling from the woofer on certain bass. I am going to return them but I am wondering if I should upgrade the rears to Mini monitors for higher power handling?? Would the woofer be blown or possibly defective out of the box? Thanks for any help.

Its a man made product... anything is possible.. could be bad right from the get go...

Take it back... If you got the $$ do the upgrade if they let you.. bigger is always better in my eyes... and everyone elses here... :D :D

I haven't had enough time with grills on and off, as I just got them a short while ago today..

I don't think I will be leaving the grills off, as they are a bit bold looking.. and Im more into a suttle environment... Sleapers as you will... Hidden and lurking behind those pleasent looking grills.. The monsters they are.. I have cranked them up on multiple musical tracks, and have taken them to the limits... and haven't even broken a sweat. Clear and concise!!
Im extremely happy I dumped all my $$ into this setup so far..

Warp

Warpdrv I have to admit I am very jealous of your setup. I have been out of the speaker world for a few months and now I come back to realize that Paradigm has a cc690 center. Man the largest I have heard of a few months ago was the cc570. How does the 690 sound to you?

Warpdrv - or anyone else with 100's - are you running these as small or large? And if small, what Xover freq?

Ed

Hi guys (and gals too). Just joined this forum, found it via Google while searching for info for the crossover for my beloved pair of Paradigm 3se mini. FYI, I bought them in Fredericton, New Brunswick, Canada, way back in circa 1989/1990. Used them for about a year and when I graduated from UNB, I brought them home to Malaysia. Unfortunately, after about 3 or 4 years here, the foam surrounds rotted. I did made a post on this in the DIYAUDIO forum.

Contacted Paradigm, and they directed me to their dealer in Singapore. Bought a pair of new woofers via mail and all the hassles associated with the customs office etc, but of different construction. The original woofers were cast metal, but the new pair were made of stamped metal. Still, the foam surrounds on the new set rotted after around a year or so. Paradigm told me it's impossible, but I have 2 sets of woofers to prove it.

Finally, in desperation, I replaced the foam surrounds with some local foam surround that I found. Back in operation, but my tin ears told me that the sound has been altered, slightly. Still love them, though.

Now, I have an extra set of woofers...... I want to built a clone by mating the extra woofers with a pair of Philips soft dome tweeters that I have. BTW, I can't find any dealer or even seller for Paradigm speakers in Malaysia.

Does anybody have the schematic of the crossover? Sorry to bore all of you with my long story.

Warpdrv - or anyone else with 100's - are you running these as small or large? And if small, what Xover freq?

Ed
small and set to 70hz

Warpdrv I have to admit I am very jealous of your setup. I have been out of the speaker world for a few months and now I come back to realize that Paradigm has a cc690 center. Man the largest I have heard of a few months ago was the cc570. How does the 690 sound to you?

I knew that I was ready to break the bank and get the 690 seeing as the CC I had was not matched to what I was running before was puny and sounded like crap, compared to the 12 yr Old Polk Audio's
This thing is freakin Gynormous !!! and I love it... its like having another 100 layin on its side. Sound stage is phenomenal. They really hit it hard with this CC, and it shows in sound quality across the front sound stage, Its just plain Thick, deep, and powerful. But then again, Im pushin 200 x 5 with my rotel. I knew I would need that power to run the CC and 100's, and Im pleased as punch with the results.

Warpdrv - or anyone else with 100's - are you running these as small or large? And if small, what Xover freq?
Ed

So far I haven't changed a thing, Set to Small, and I still have my setup crossed at 50hz, as my old polks had some good low end, and sounded pretty good that way.. and I got my SVS Plus/2 pickin up the slack down below....
Alot of people run them at 80hz, for the THX type class, but I know that these speakers, not only have the power from my amp, and are proficient down low enough turned up high. I have been running at ref. level all night long and not 1 hiccup, except my son keeps coming down stairs here, to chew my @ss out that he can't hear what he's thinking up there.. HAHAHAH :rolleyes: :D :rolleyes:

I've had my Studio 40s for maybe two weeks. Just thought I'd post a picture of the Plateau stands that I found to go with them. The speakers are secured to the top plate with two screws, and I've filled the metal tube with sand. So far, so good. The base of the stand almost matches the cherry finish.

Can anyone tell me how the bass response of the Studio 40s compares to the Studio 60s? Is anyone using the 40s for music without a subwoofer?

the cost of the 40s with stands is close to 60s thats probably
why there is more info on the 60s and the larger cabinet will
have a lower extension the specs on the v3 are on a comparison
chart on their web site.

I am curious about the difference between the cc590 and the cc690 other than size. I still have lots of time on the up-grade warranty to make the change if its worth it.

I am currently running;

Mains - Studio 100
Center- CC590

Sorry i sent accidently without finishing somehow

mains - Studio 100
center CC590
Surrounds- ADP370
Subwoofer - PW1000
MCA50 Amplifier
MCA20 Amplifier (i run my mains by-amped)
AVM20 pre-pro

Please suggest any improvements before my budget is completely blown

I listen to 2 channel music very often but also enjoy very dynamic movies.

I have 40's and I always complain of lack of lows Paradigms sits has them rated down to 36 HZ but I have ben told they roll off about 60 hz

according to their chart they are flat to 62 hz
they can go to 36hz at 3db down.

Sorry i sent accidently without finishing somehow

mains - Studio 100
center CC590
Surrounds- ADP370
Subwoofer - PW1000
MCA50 Amplifier
MCA20 Amplifier (i run my mains by-amped)
AVM20 pre-pro

Please suggest any improvements before my budget is completely blown

I listen to 2 channel music very often but also enjoy very dynamic movies.To me it seems that the weakest component by far is the sub.

Ed

i would agree with ed i would look at a servo-15 with that combo.

I am curious about the difference between the cc590 and the cc690 other than size. I still have lots of time on the up-grade warranty to make the change if its worth it.

I am currently running;

Mains - Studio 100
Center- CC590

I too might like to upgrade from the 590 to the cc690. How much do they charge for an upgrade?

As far as I know, you just pay the difference within 6 months.
Wouldn't a servo 15 be a little overkill. I do have a line on a used one but was planning on useing the money elsewhere.
What difference could I expect between the two. I don't want to rattle the house off the foundations. My room is roughly 16' x 22' with only 7.5' ceilings (basement)

I don't want to rattle the house off the foundations.

WHY NOT ? Whats wrong with you..... :D :eek: :D :eek:

it may be the difference of hearing and feeling the nuke in the movie
also it does wonders with music.

Wouldn't a servo 15 be a little overkill. I do have a line on a used one but was planning on useing the money elsewhere.
What difference could I expect between the two. I don't want to rattle the house off the foundations. My room is roughly 16' x 22' with only 7.5' ceilings (basement)
It's not necessarily the quantity of bass, but quality of bass. I first bought a PW2200 and thought that it was wonderful and questioned whether a Servo 15 would be any better. Anyway, to make a long story short I did buy a Servo 15 and was very surprised at how much better it sounded. I'm still not sure whether the primary reason is that the Servo is sealed, not ported, or whether it's the servo circuit.

But given that the rest of your equipment is top notch, the PW1000 looked really out of place.

Ed

I've gone through ten or so pages out of the 111 pages of this thread and haven't found what I want, I hope you can help answer some of my questions.

Background: First time HT/audio setup, budget 1.5-2K for speakers alone, preferably wall mounted speakers as the TV is also the same. I watch movies (50-60%), TV (20%), music (10-20%) and games. One of the reason I don't listen to music much is probably because I don't have any sound system.

I know, I know, you all have been talking about the Monitor or Studio series (more high-end), I'm interested in the following setup:
3 Cinema 330 (L/C/R)
2 Cinema 90
2 Cinema ADP
1 SVS 25-31PCi Subwoofer

I'll be powering the Cinemas and sub with Yamaha RX-V2700. I've listened to the Cinemas at my local dealer, while my room is definitely bigger than the demo room, I still think I like the Cinema 330 and that they are big enough. I'm thinking 6.1 is enough, hopefully I also get better quality.

Please let me know what you think of this.

If they sound good to you, did you audition them with your favorite music cd's and movie dvd's?, then buy them.
I was at my local shop several days ago, hoping my cc290 was in...nope not yet hehehe, and was talking to the manager about the Millenia series. He said the Paradigm rep said these speakers were designed with aesthetics as the top priority followed by sound quality. Especially designed for wall mounting. Therefore they will be a bit lacking compared to "box" speakers. That means that the low range/bass sounds will be lacking but can be made up for with a good sub. If you are not buying the system for critical music listening and match them with a good sub you should be fine.

I have been piecing my new system together for the past 3 months and have a bit more to go but so far I am thrilled with the upgrades. I am choosing pieces for a larger room however the current space is 15x15 with an 8 ft window on one wall and an 8 foot opening into the kitchen on the other. Not ideal for HT but Time will improve these issues.

Old system:

Denon 2500 - about 10yr old floor model
Denon 5-CD changer on its last leg - 10yr old floor model
Sony DVD player - 5-6 yrs old.
B&W DM7- about 25+yrs old
Boston- CR6 - center
Panasonic - 20" TV-10yrs old

New system:

Denon AVR 2807
Toshiba HD A2
Paradigm Studio 60 v4
Paradigm Studio CC 590 v4
Sony E55A20

The TV was the first upgrade about 9 months ago. I wish I had waited a little while longer but I remain very happy with the Sony KDF E55A20. Not 1080 but IMO as good many 1080 pictures out there, and a nice piece of furniture to boot.

The receiver upgrade was next choice. One of researching reviews and loyalty to Denon. I have been happy over the years with my AVR 2500 so the positive reviews of the AVR 2807 made this decision easy. There have been some significant changes in AVR's; setting this one up was challenging but I got it done. I am still learning about the various settings and finding the ones I like. Pure Direct is nice.

I decided that the Toshiba HD A2 would replace the Sony DVD. I would have liked to have found an A1 but they were hard to find and I did not want to order online. The A2 seems to have a couple of bugs that need to be worked out. 1. If I leave it on for long periods of time it seems to freeze like a PC does sometimes. I have to unplug it to get it to respond to the controls. 2. The disk drawer couldn't be noisier; a real clunky open and close. The picture is fantastic, and I like it well enough. However, I am not sure I would recommend it to others. For now I use it as DVD and CD player.

Next up, speakers. Having auditioned, B&W, KEF, Focal, Axiom, Martin Logan, Definitive Tech, Paradigm and a few others, I found myself returning to the Paradigm dealer several times. A function of cost and sound stage eventually led me to the Paradigm Studio 60 v4 and the Studio CC 590 v4 (I am very happy with this choice) These are my first higher end speakers and the difference is mind blowing. It is at times as though I have never listened to music. Matching the center with the mains is equally breath taking for movies. For me there was no other choice.

I will be making acoustic adjustment to my listening space with aesthetics/function playing a significant role. Most likely I will be using DIY acoustic treatments as I have access to and skills in a cabinet making shop.

I am considering the Paradigm Studio ADP 590 v4 surround rears. I think it bit overkill for my space but the space will get bigger, and the neighbors will be left behind.

I have not made my mind up on a CD player. A lot to consider here and for now the HD-DVD will work.

A bit long winded but I really want to express my satisfaction with Paradigm. I highly recommend they be on everyone’s audition list. In this price range they sounded to me, the best by far.

DN

For the longest time I've wondered about the reviews of Paradigm speakers and other manufacturers when they refer to sound stage , clarity and openess. I just couldn't imagine what they where talking about. Once I up-graded to my Anthem / Paradigm system, set it up, sat back and had a listen, it was absolutely amazing. I completely understood.... For the first time I am actually "listenng" to the music and experiencing sounds and depth I never new was part of the recordings... My home theatre is currently under construction but I'm sure it will be worth the wait to be surrounded by this caliber of audio.

Billpry- You will experience that same type of awakening when you upgrade to the Servo15. The upgrade to the cc690 was great for me but not near the difference you will get from the sub upgrade. I would and actually did do both. It only hurts once.

As far as I know, you just pay the difference within 6 months.
Wouldn't a servo 15 be a little overkill. I do have a line on a used one but was planning on useing the money elsewhere.
What difference could I expect between the two. I don't want to rattle the house off the foundations. My room is roughly 16' x 22' with only 7.5' ceilings (basement)

I plan on upgrading my Studio 60/570/ADP470 system's sub this year. Now using an old HSU 12" ported "tabletop" round model. Instead of going retail, I am seriously considering building two of the Rythmik 12" servo sub kits. Everything is included except enclosure and stuffings, which can be bought or built from other sources.

They also make a 15" servo kit...two of those kits plus enclosure cost is still less than one Paradigm servo sub. Just doesn't make sense to me to pay the premium marked up cost (which includes sale commission) for a Paradigm sub, no matter how good it is.

See the AVS diy forum for more info, if you are interested.

The biggest awakening is when you listen to your system in a acoustically treated dedicated room. Its just amazed how much your current equipment is really capable of. The clarity, soundstage, micro detail all shows up out of the blue.
Thats my awakening when I get my dedicated room and move my stuff over.

Found out what was wrong with my Atom Monitor speakers which were making a vibrating sound. The dust cap was not glued properly and had come loose. The dealer was telling me to just superglue it back on but I wasn't too keen on that. He tried to pull it off to show me how he thought I should reglue it but it started tearing it. Just waiting for the new set to arrive. Not overly impressed.

typical dealer, know it all... then he makes an @ss of himself... :)
I love it when that happens... :D :D

Just a note on my dealers customer service..

I just received all my new Paradigm system... 100's 20's and CC-690...
I got everything all unboxed and put it in place..

When I went to put the grill on my 690.. all the holes lined up except the left two on the end.. as soon as I pushed the grill in there the 2 pegs snapped. broke right off.. even after I lubed them up a bit to makes things easier.. works great.

I superglued the pegs back on and I pulled the rubber gromets out of the holes and pushed the grill back on... and they were right on the edge of the hole, so as soon as I would put the rubber gromets back in, it would stretch the pegs and would snap em off again.. turns out the holes were drilled wrong... :(

Called my dealer.. he says.. I'll get ya another one, just use that one until I get the new one... :) Thanks buddy.. Great service !!!

Its nice to have a dealer that will go to bat for ya.. and Im happy mine did..

Its nice to have a dealer that will go to bat for ya.. and Im happy mine did..

Yes, he did, and that's good. But the problem you had doesn't say much for Paradigm's quality control. And several other people have had problems getting Paradigm to honor the warranty when their dealer had gone out of business.

Reading stories like this is one reason why I decided not to get Studio 100's, as much as I liked the speakers.

What do you guys use for center channel stands for your CC 470 (studio series).

I'm moving from the top of a TV to front projection, so I need a stand -- which (including the CC470), will be ablut 28 inches high.

Reading stories like this is one reason why I decided not to get Studio 100's, as much as I liked the speakers.

What speakers did you wind up getting?

Yes, he did, and that's good. But the problem you had doesn't say much for Paradigm's quality control. And several other people have had problems getting Paradigm to honor the warranty when their dealer had gone out of business.
Reading stories like this is one reason why I decided not to get Studio 100's, as much as I liked the speakers.

Sorry you feel that way... and you should thank your lucky stars that you won't have to listen to these absolutely awful sounding, ugly and not too forget under-perfoming speakers.

A one-day alignment issue with 2 holes, drilled maybe 1/4" off...
Suit yourself....

I would strongly suggest not going with a center channel that is not matched to your mains...
Timbre matching of the front 3 speakers is essential...
Do a search of this and you will find multiple NO No's in this reguard...

here is an example... http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=789895&highlight=center+channel

Warp

So essentially, if I'm going to pick up the 60's, I need to purchase one of Paradigm's Centers?

it enhances the theater and music experience if all the speakers are
of the same brand and class.

What speakers did you wind up getting?
B&W 704's, which lack the low bass extension of the Studio 100's.

Sorry you feel that way... and you should thank your lucky stars that you won't have to listen to these absolutely awful sounding, ugly and not too forget under-perfoming speakers.

A one-day alignment issue with 2 holes, drilled maybe 1/4" off...
Suit yourself....

Didn't say they were ugly, didn't think they sounded awful or underperformed. To the contrary... I think they are excellent speakers, and they look fine.

On the other hand, if a speaker has an MSRP of $1250, it shouldn't require DIY repairs from the buyer, and someone should have noticed the problem before it left the factory. my two cents...

B&W 704's, which lack the low bass extension of the Studio 100's.

Sorry didn't mean to sound like an @ss.. too late..
Those are beautiful speakers, I just couldn't justify the price, and to my ears, I thought to match the performance (including low bass extention) of the 100's I'd have to go up to the 800 series B&W's Which are georgeous... I loved the 803's...

Enjoy...

and to my ears, I thought to match the performance (including low bass extention) of the 100's I'd have to go up to the 800 series B&W's Which are gorgeous... I loved the 803's...

Enjoy...

Thanks! I liked the 800 series, too.

Anyone here have the Signature S4's?

I was thinking about buying the S4's and wanted to know what your set-up is.
Type of Amp (2 or multi channel), Center, Surrounds, Subwoofer etc etc.

Thanks
Cheers
Mohawk

Didn't say they were ugly, didn't think they sounded awful or underperformed. To the contrary... I think they are excellent speakers, and they look fine.

On the other hand, if a speaker has an MSRP of $1250, it shouldn't require DIY repairs from the buyer, and someone should have noticed the problem before it left the factory. my two cents...
I totally agree. I hate to admit it, but I think Paradigm is falling into the same situation as all big companies these days, they want to get every last cent and are sacrificing quality to do so, it will catch up to them in the end. An example are the new adp's, in my opinion they are very cheap looking compared to the 470's. All the new speakers may sound better, but I don't think the build quality is there, thats just the way things are today! I work as an appliance technician and see this all the time, people go out and spend $2500 dollars for a frige or 8 grand on a range and it breaks during the first year or month! Just a sign-o-the times.............

I wonder in the case of the new ADPs, if it was more of a response to dealer/installers feedback. I hung a pair 470s around Christmas, they were pretty heavy.

If I were an A/V installer, I would appreciate a smaller/lighter design.

I work as an appliance technician and see this all the time, people go out and spend $2500 dollars for a frige or 8 grand on a range and it breaks during the first year or month! Just a sign-o-the times.............

If you're a Maytag repairman, I guess you're busier than the guy in the commercials used to be, according to Consumer Reports :)

Actually, in over 20 years I have never had a piece of audio or video equipment that gave me any trouble, except for one 20-year-old Carver amp that recently died and got fixed good as new by the factory (before they fired all their Carver techs), and one JVC TV that needed its IR receiving unit replaced. Don't even get me started, however, on vacuum cleaners, refrigerators, electric ranges... :mad:

I wonder in the case of the new ADPs, if it was more of a response to dealer/installers feedback. I hung a pair 470s around Christmas, they were pretty heavy.

If I were an A/V installer, I would appreciate a smaller/lighter design.
I don't know, I guess if I'm going to be buying higher end, it should be heavy. I also doubt they would make a design decision based on public opinion, but I could be wrong. seems to me that the signature surrounds are even heavier?

If you're a Maytag repairman, I guess you're busier than the guy in the commercials used to be, according to Consumer Reports :)

Actually, in over 20 years I have never had a piece of audio or video equipment that gave me any trouble, except for one 20-year-old Carver amp that recently died and got fixed good as new by the factory (before they fired all their Carver techs), and one JVC TV that needed its IR receiving unit replaced. Don't even get me started, however, on vacuum cleaners, refrigerators, electric ranges... :mad:
I work on every brand, but your right on about Maytag, ha ha ha... Although Whirlpool owns Maytag now so maybe we will be seeing some changes...
I've never really had too many issues with all the stuff I've owned over the years, except for an older Jvc vcr, a Parasound e.q., paradigm titan woofer and when I moved my 400 disc Sony changer last week, all the cd's fell over and got jammed up, took it apart and fixed it though. :) Going to look at a 690 today if my dealer has one in stock, gonna ask if they have seen any quality issues....

I don't know, I guess if I'm going to be buying higher end, it should be heavy. I also doubt they would make a design decision based on public opinion, but I could be wrong. seems to me that the signature surrounds are even heavier?The Sig ADP's are 52lbs/pair - same as the Studio ADP-470's it seems! (surprised!)

The Sig ADP's are considerably heavier than they look. You expect something in a box that size to weigh a lot less than they actually do when you first go to pick them up.

They were a real bitch to hang, but I wouldn't have it any other way. :) (Like you said, I expect them to solid and heavy).

Yes, he did, and that's good. But the problem you had doesn't say much for Paradigm's quality control. And several other people have had problems getting Paradigm to honor the warranty when their dealer had gone out of business.

Reading stories like this is one reason why I decided not to get Studio 100's, as much as I liked the speakers.

You must have terrible dealers!
I had a problem with my Studio 60 and I took it to another dealer (I live close to 2)
Even though I did not buy it from him he happily warrentied it for me.
He did not even hint that I should take it to the store I got it from!
You should never have a problem getting a Paradigm fixed.
Regards Knights of Ni

i have had no problems with mine *knock on wood* but my buddy was playing a 1hz to 100 hz sweep to loud and blew his tweeter. took it to the store and told them he did it and paradigm gave him a new one. Paradigm IMO is second to none in price/quality as well as customer service. Hard for me to believe anyone is having problems.

i had a dragging voice coil in one of the bass speakers in one of
the 100s and my dealer shipped the speaker back 3 weeks later
got the speaker back good as new no problems since.

They were a real bitch to hang, but I wouldn't have it any other way. :) (Like you said, I expect them to solid and heavy).

Tell me about it. One of mine had to go in front of a window. I had to embed steel angle iron into the wall, screwed to the wood header, along with aluminum angle and high quality birch plywood, to make a suitable support (which in itself weighted almost 20 lbs.!)


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but my buddy was playing a 1hz to 100 hz sweep to loud and blew his tweeterYou can't blow a tweeter like this since essentially no signal would even reach the tweeter.

Ed

You can't blow a tweeter like this since essentially no signal would even reach the tweeter.

Ed
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thats what i thought to but i was there and saw/heard it happen. dont know how...

sorry didnt know how to quote properly

sorry didnt know how to quote properly

On the bottom right of each little response is a quote button. When you hit that it quotes the person that wrote the comment, ^^^^and lets you respond right below... Like this

Paradigm has the NEW Version 5 Monitor PDF Catalog up on their website now!!

http://www.paradigm.com/Website/News/Downloads/Downloads.html

http://www.paradigm.com/Website/News/Downloads/ParCat4.4.pdf

Looks like their updating stuff...LOL

http://www.castercomm.com/press.cfm?id=113

they got a very good face lift .

Warpdrv,

Can you summarize the differences between the v3 and v4 studio 20s? Bass? Mids? Treble? Dynamics?

Thanks

Hello, looking into the new Monitor 5's for my front speakers. I need a quality Bookshelf type speaker to keep the wife happy. I already have a Paradigm cc-290. I think the new 5's are still a match to the cc-290? But my main question is whatever bookshelf matches the cc-290 can i lay them on there side on a shelf on 4 or 6 nice bumpers or would that really harsh the outcome of the speakers in anyway? The speakers would be at ear level 8' apart and 13' from my sweet spot. Thanks again to any help!

I had my monitor 3's v.4 on their sides for a few months. They are now vertical and I do not notice a difference. I am not an expert in any form on the fine points of sound and there may be a difference but I could not notice one.
They do look a bit better, "normal", in the vertical position.

they reeally need to update their website for the studios.
also curious if there is going to be a new servo.

I just bought a used set of Paradigm Studio 60's V2. And Studio 20 V2. With the matching center.


I am using the Strda2es from Sony. And I feel I may not be getting all I need from it. When the volume is up it sounds pretty damn good. Or when I have a 5.1 signal. But if I have 2 channel I am somewhat disapointed.

Any suggestions on an receiver to match? I have about 1400 to spend.

I was looking at the NAD T763

You may be better off buying a cheap Denon or something as a preprocessor and then buying a used solid state amp that puts out 200 rms x 5.

You may be better off buying a cheap Denon or something as a preprocessor and then buying a used solid state amp that puts out 200 rms x 5.


Any suggestion on an AMP? I could just use my 2es as the processor. Right?

they reeally need to update their website for the studios.
also curious if there is going to be a new servo.No. All Reference series subs (Studio and Signature) are staying the same, including the Servo 15 and Signature Servo.

-K

Any suggestion on an AMP? I could just use my 2es as the processor. Right?

Not sure--all I know from other people is that the higher you go in the Studio line, the more power hungry the speakers are.

Any suggestion on an AMP? I could just use my 2es as the processor. Right?

This may help:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=478237&highlight=Paradigm

Hello, looking for some opinions on what front speakers would be my best match for my room and my CC-290 i already have. room is 19'x15'x8'. 3/4 open into kitchen on a 19' wall and 1/2 open on a 15' wall to the den. Not dedicated AV room, So guessing flat response is going to be tough enough already so im just looking for a respectable system (when finished) nothing super high end, $ wise atleast. I think i got the ok from the boss to use floor standing speakers "whew". Id like to get fronts that are "NOT" going to overtake my Center channel, but yet work well and sound good. Hearing voices in general is not my strong point! Fronts will be 9' apart and 13-15' away from my sweet spot. I have Been looking at the monitor 7 and 9s V5 from audio emporium site??? I will be using an Onkyo HTIB (HT-s780) receiver and its Sub and 2 surrounds atm and probably going to upgrade to a Denon,Marantz,Rotel 4306 or 3806, 8100,1067 ish level of receiver within 6 months. 50% Cable TV, 40% DVD movies (Denon-2910), 10% music use. looking to stay somewhere near the 700-1100$ area. Thanx alot for any input and for the stuff ive learned from yall in here so far !

Hello,

I recently purchased a pair of Paradigm AMS-250s from a friend that moved. He no longer has the owner's manual, mounting instructions, nor mounting templates.

Does anyone know where I can get any of these items? I scoured Paradigm's site and their Technical Support page is not very supportive. Not even owner's manual pdfs. The closest thing I saw was a sales brochure outline how easy they were to install.

Hope you can help and thanks,

Allen

You may be better off buying a cheap Denon or something as a preprocessor and then buying a used solid state amp that puts out 200 rms x 5.

Another option would be to get a 200 rms x 2 amp to drive the fronts, and use the Denon (or something) to drive the CC and surrounds.

jdg

Hello,

I am looking to maximize my system. I am currently looking at amps but I need to know if this would really help my system my setup is:

Fronts: Studio 20's v3
Center: CC-470
Surrounds: Mini Monitors
Sub:Velodyne cht-10
Pioneer 1014tx Receiver

Would an amp improve my system by a noticeable difference? I think it sounds very good now but I don't want to spend more than $500. Also what amp you recommend?

Any suggestion on an AMP? I could just use my 2es as the processor. Right?

I went Rotel, and the mix seems great for me... got mine used for a great deal on audiogon.com
There are a ton of amps out there, Rotel 1080 comes to mind, for 2 channel, and 1095 for 5 channel, both 200wpc.
But as with everything else there are tons of products avail...
read up in the amp section

I lost a tweeter last night in my studio 100's. What a kick in the whoo-whoo!!!
I fired up the system and it just sat there dormant. Oh well what can you do, I'll pick up another on friday.

I currently have 2 Amps, an Anthem MCA50 and an MCA20, would it still give me the same performance if i run 4 channels to the 100's separately (bi-amped) from the MCA50? The Anthem MCA50 has separate amplifiers for each channel but share the same power supplies. I'm under the impression that using 2 from the 50 and 2 from the 20 can cause gain problems.

I lost a tweeter last night in my studio 100's. What a kick in the whoo-whoo!!!
I fired up the system and it just sat there dormant. Oh well what can you do, I'll pick up another on friday.

I currently have 2 Amps, an Anthem MCA50 and an MCA20, would it still give me the same performance if i run 4 channels to the 100's separately (bi-amped) from the MCA50? The Anthem MCA50 has separate amplifiers for each channel but share the same power supplies. I'm under the impression that using 2 from the 50 and 2 from the 20 can cause gain problems.
I had to have a tweeter replaced in my Studio 60's this week. I'm starting to wonder if their tweeters have some sort of manufacturing defect or if it is the owner's fault for killing them.

Everything I've read on passive biamping says you won't see much of a performance gain, if any. But if you have extra amplifier channels available, might as well try it and see.

I'm hoping it's an isolated problem.
When I bi-amp I do notice a better sound field and depth to the sound stage. I would like to continue, but if it's going to cause problems I'll start a zone 2 or 7 channel instead.
How much power are you running to your 60's? I've got 400 watts/channel to the 100's....maybe a little overkill but I like the sound.... as long as it doesn't keep spitting out tweeters.

I'm hoping it's an isolated problem.
When I bi-amp I do notice a better sound field and depth to the sound stage. I would like to continue, but if it's going to cause problems I'll start a zone 2 or 7 channel instead.
How much power are you running to your 60's? I've got 400 watts/channel to the 100's....maybe a little overkill but I like the sound.... as long as it doesn't keep spitting out tweeters.
What amp are you using to get 400WPC to your 100's? I have my 60's on my Denon 100WPC AVR-985S, but I'm upgrading to an amp very soon.

What amp are you using to get 400WPC to your 100's? I have my 60's on my Denon 100WPC AVR-985S, but I'm upgrading to an amp very soon.
I'm using Anthem MCA 50/ 5 channels @ 225watts/ch and a Anthem MCA 20/ 2 channels @ 225/ch. These amps are amazing, they're actually a seperate amp per channel but sharing two massive power supplies. I bi-amp them so the mid/hi gets 225 and the bass speakers get another 225 watts. If you remove the jumper on the speaker terminals it separates the cross-over or something like that. I'm just not sure it was the right thing to do...remember- blown tweeter!!!!

Hello, looking for some opinions on what front speakers would be my best match for my room and my CC-290 i already have. room is 19'x15'x8'. 3/4 open into kitchen on a 19' wall and 1/2 open on a 15' wall to the den. Not dedicated AV room, So guessing flat response is going to be tough enough already so im just looking for a respectable system (when finished) nothing super high end, $ wise atleast. I think i got the ok from the boss to use floor standing speakers "whew". Id like to get fronts that are "NOT" going to overtake my Center channel, but yet work well and sound good. Hearing voices in general is not my strong point! Fronts will be 9' apart and 13-15' away from my sweet spot. I have Been looking at the monitor 7 and 9s V5 from audio emporium site??? I will be using an Onkyo HTIB (HT-s780) receiver and its Sub and 2 surrounds atm and probably going to upgrade to a Denon,Marantz,Rotel 4306 or 3806, 8100,1067 ish level of receiver within 6 months. 50% Cable TV, 40% DVD movies (Denon-2910), 10% music use. looking to stay somewhere near the 700-1100$ area. Thanx alot for any input and for the stuff ive learned from yall in here so far !


Congrats your cc-290 was a great choice. I have the same center and am amazed by it. I have almost the exact same room you do and originally had titans as fronts but found my room to suck all the bass out of them. i believe this is because they were front ported. So i would not recommend those as i had to return them. I replaced the titans with another pair of mini monitors. So my current setups is 4 mini monitors and the cc-290. Sounds great. Gets much louder than you think it could, louder then i would ever want it. This setup comes highly recommended and was a great price. 4 mini monitors, plus stands should cost you around $740. If you end up with that you will be saving up for a new sub like i am. the entire v5 lineup is lacking in bass compared to the v4. good luck

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Hello, looking for some opinions on what front speakers would be my best match for my room and my CC-290 i already have. room is 19'x15'x8'. 3/4 open into kitchen on a 19' wall and 1/2 open on a 15' wall to the den. Not dedicated AV room, So guessing flat response is going to be tough enough already so im just looking for a respectable system (when finished) nothing super high end, $ wise atleast. I think i got the ok from the boss to use floor standing speakers "whew". Id like to get fronts that are "NOT" going to overtake my Center channel, but yet work well and sound good. Hearing voices in general is not my strong point! Fronts will be 9' apart and 13-15' away from my sweet spot. I have Been looking at the monitor 7 and 9s V5 from audio emporium site??? I will be using an Onkyo HTIB (HT-s780) receiver and its Sub and 2 surrounds atm and probably going to upgrade to a Denon,Marantz,Rotel 4306 or 3806, 8100,1067 ish level of receiver within 6 months. 50% Cable TV, 40% DVD movies (Denon-2910), 10% music use. looking to stay somewhere near the 700-1100$ area. Thanx alot for any input and for the stuff ive learned from yall in here so far !
ongrats your cc-290 was a great choice. I have the same center and am amazed by it. I have almost the exact same room you do and originally had titans as fronts but found my room to suck all the bass out of them. i believe this is because they were front ported. So i would not recommend those as i had to return them. I replaced the titans with another pair of mini monitors. So my current setups is 4 mini monitors and the cc-290. Sounds great. Gets much louder than you think it could, louder then i would ever want it. This setup comes highly recommended and was a great price. 4 mini monitors, plus stands should cost you around $740. If you end up with that you will be saving up for a new sub like i am. the entire v5 lineup is lacking in bass compared to the v4. good luck

So you use 2 mini's as your surrounds and 2 for fronts Hmm. Only thing i need to know is how they sound at the mid level +- allittle volume? I very rarely play loud. Mostly movies with the family or with the wife at NIGHT and TV anytime. Music now and then. Thanx Edit= Any recomendation on wich sub maybe a HSU VTF-2 MK2 ?

[QUOTE=Warpdrv]Thought I would post some pics of my new speaks, Just got them installed, and they are fantastic... thought I would share.. Now I have to go back and listen some more... :)


Delicious

I have the 60's and 590 and love them. Truly. Love Them!

So you use 2 mini's as your surrounds and 2 for fronts Hmm. Only thing i need to know is how they sound at the mid level +- allittle volume? I very rarely play loud. Mostly movies with the family or with the wife at NIGHT and TV anytime. Music now and then. Thanx Edit= Any recomendation on wich sub maybe a HSU VTF-2 MK2 ?

Sounds excellent at all volumes im extremely excited to get a "true sub". then i will finally be in audio bliss. till i get the itch for the studio series that is.

I just bought a used set of Paradigm Studio 60's V2. And Studio 20 V2. With the matching center.


I am using the Strda2es from Sony. And I feel I may not be getting all I need from it. When the volume is up it sounds pretty damn good. Or when I have a 5.1 signal. But if I have 2 channel I am somewhat disapointed.

Any suggestions on an receiver to match? I have about 1400 to spend.
For a receiver in that price range its hard to beat a Rotel RSX-1057. You will probably want more power though.

[QUOTE=Warpdrv]Thought I would post some pics of my new speaks, Just got them installed, and they are fantastic... thought I would share.. Now I have to go back and listen some more... :)


Delicious

I have the 60's and 590 and love them. Truly. Love Them!

Thanks dpnaugle... They really sing so nicely... Everything I throw at them sounds fantastic. but I need to tame that room with Treatments... its bright, but I compensate a bit for that with the EQ and tone down the highs just a touch...

Glad to see your happy with your setup... what are you driving them with..?

Anyone have a cc-300 and if so what are u`r thoughts on it???

Ok I am officialy confused!
I just grabbed the last pair of Studio 40v3's that my local dealer had.
I already have the 60v3's and cc570v3 and had planned to get the 20's for my surrounds but none of the local dealers have any left. (waited to long to finish my system :mad: )
So that left me going with 20v4 instead. I wanted to keep everything v3 however, so long story short he sold me his last pair of 40v3's he had for the same price as the 20v4's! :D
I always thought that the difference between the 60's and the 40's was a little more low end on the 60's, but when I got them home I am getting better bass responce from the 40's!
How can it be true?
Am I missing something? Because I have to tell you, they are blowing my mind how good they are!
Regards
Knights of Ni

I replaced my cc170v.4 with a cc290v.5 yesterday. I did not have much time to listen to it but initially I noticed a tremendous improvement over the 170. I have had more time to listen to it today. I ran YPAO but have not had a chance to use my spl to tweak the system to my taste. Immediately I noticed the improved range of the speaker. Watching tv programs, sd and hd, dialogue is much more clear and pronounced. The range is also much wider. Highs are more discernable and bass is much stronger.
It dominates the system (monitor 3v.4 fronts, Atomv.4 surrounds and PDR-12 sub) audio but not in a bad way.
This purchase turned out to be better than I expected.
However it did require some reconfiguring lol. The 170 used to "perch" atop the tv on a shelf with 2 legs attached down to the tv stand. The 290 is 4" longer, 1" taller and around 3" deeper and much heavier. I set it atop the same shelf system, home made affair, and was worried all night long that it would somehow damage the tv, 50 plasma. I mounted a 48" 1x10 oak shelf behind the tv and now the 290 has a sturdy home and my tv has nothing sitting atop it, or blocking the heat from rising too.
Its' a great addition to my family of speakers and I look forward to spending a lot of time listening to them.

Congrats on the purchase. I picked up a CC290 right after Christmas- also to replace a CC170. I always felt that the 170 just looked (and sounded) too small. While I never really complained about it's sound quality, I did notice a big diff in my ability to hear dialog in movies. It's easily 30% larger than the 170- yet my wife did not notice the swap (which makes my life easier...)

Only bad thing is that I'm very seriously thinking of upgrading to the new Monitor 11v5's to replace my almost new Phantoms (Hoping this one goes by unnoticed as well:)


Just got back from one of the local dealers hoping to check them out. Unfortunately they didn't have them in stock. They did have the 9's and they look much better than the v4's - at least in my opinion. They also had the CC390 out- that thing looks awesome- but too big for my setup.

They had a pair or the Studio 100's on the floor and man do they look nice in person.


Good luck with your new center.

Ok I am officialy confused!
I always thought that the difference between the 60's and the 40's was a little more low end on the 60's, but when I got them home I am getting better bass responce from the 40's!
How can it be true?
Am I missing something? Because I have to tell you, they are blowing my mind how good they are!
Regards
Knights of Ni

How do you have the speakers set up?

Ok I am officialy confused!
I just grabbed the last pair of Studio 40v3's that my local dealer had.
I already have the 60v3's and cc570v3 and had planned to get the 20's for my surrounds but none of the local dealers have any left. (waited to long to finish my system :mad: )
So that left me going with 20v4 instead. I wanted to keep everything v3 however, so long story short he sold me his last pair of 40v3's he had for the same price as the 20v4's! :D
I always thought that the difference between the 60's and the 40's was a little more low end on the 60's, but when I got them home I am getting better bass responce from the 40's!
How can it be true?
Am I missing something? Because I have to tell you, they are blowing my mind how good they are!
Regards
Knights of Ni

I've had my pair of 40 v.3 for a couple of weeks and was very surprised at the bass as well.

How do you have the speakers set up?
I am forced to be across the narrow dimension of my room so the 60's are 10" away from the wall toed in towards the middle.
My room is 10' wide and the sofa is against the back wall. One side of the room is open, which I know does not help things.
To try the 40's I just put them next to the 60's till I re-wire to run the 40's as surrounds.
Thanks for the reply
Knights of Ni

I am forced to be across the narrow dimension of my room so the 60's are 10" away from the wall toed in towards the middle.
My room is 10' wide and the sofa is against the back wall. One side of the room is open, which I know does not help things.
To try the 40's I just put them next to the 60's till I re-wire to run the 40's as surrounds.
Thanks for the reply
Knights of Ni

Are the 40s on stands or sitting on the floor?

My guess is you may need to reposition your 60s, but I understand being space limited. My room is pretty far from ideal as well.

Are the 40s on stands or sitting on the floor?

My guess is you may need to reposition your 60s, but I understand being space limited. My room is pretty far from ideal as well.
The 40's are about 12" off the ground using blocks till I can get some stands this week.
Regards
Knights of Ni

new owner of studio 100s and studio CC470
i'm freaking loving it...

any suggestions what models i should use for the rears and a sub suggestion would be stellar

Kind of disappointed that Paradigm still hasn't updated their website with the v4 models yet.... If these things are shipping and selling, what are they waiting for?

Does anyone with the ADP-590's have pics of the back? Curious how they mount on the wall.

You must mean the new v.5 line. The v.4 line is last years line.

Kind of disappointed that Paradigm still hasn't updated their website with the v4 models yet.... If these things are shipping and selling, what are they waiting for?


i think this is in reference to the new studio line which is v4 the new monitor line is v5.

new owner of studio 100s and studio CC470
i'm freaking loving it...

any suggestions what models i should use for the rears and a sub suggestion would be stellar


studio 20's should be your surrounds. and subwoofer doesnt need to match so anyone you want. Paradigm's servo 15 is an excellent choice, probably the only time i would say stick with paradigm. that is if your budget is $3000, if not check out HSU and SVS.

I am forced to be across the narrow dimension of my room so the 60's are 10" away from the wall toed in towards the middle.
My room is 10' wide and the sofa is against the back wall. One side of the room is open, which I know does not help things.
To try the 40's I just put them next to the 60's till I re-wire to run the 40's as surrounds.
Thanks for the reply
Knights of Ni


40's will make really really large surrounds especially for that room

Wouldn't Dipole ADP590's work better as surrounds for a larger "sweet spot"?

Wouldn't Dipole ADP590's work better as surrounds for a larger "sweet spot"?


If he has the version 3 Studios, then he would need the ADP470s, (either used, or a demo model) with the matching tweeters. Goes back to his preference, does he want direct or dipole speakers, mounted on the sides or rear, what sounds best in his room,/setup, etc, etc.

If he has the version 3 Studios, then he would need the ADP470s, (either used, or a demo model) with the matching tweeters. Goes back to his preference, does he want direct or dipole speakers, mounted on the sides or rear, what sounds best in his room,/setup, etc, etc.
He doesn't necessarily need to have v.3's, I talked to paradigm tech support and they said I could use the new 690 center with my v.3 100's no problem....so I'm sure the 590's would be fine....

Now selling my Paradigm Studios V3s at 50% off retail. I will sell in any combination but if you want all 5 I will take extra off the 5th speaker. I own a pair of 20s and 3 100s. I have the packaging still and manuels. Warranty is still good on them. Had them less than a year and they are in excellant condition. PM me if interested.

I would prefer that they be picked up because I don't want your speakers getting damaged in shipping!

He doesn't necessarily need to have v.3's, I talked to paradigm tech support and they said I could use the new 690 center with my v.3 100's no problem....so I'm sure the 590's would be fine....

Yes, they told me the same thing when I needed my surrounds. Luckily my dealer was able to get me a pair of 470s, at a discounted price, so I went with them.

Of course recently, I emailed a question about using the new tweeters in the v3 series, they were totally against it :confused:

"Parts for the Studio v.4 models are not available for DIY modifications and
attempting to modify your speakers with v.4parts will void the warranty.

Thanks for choosing Paradigm speakers.

Sincerely,
Gary Takeda
Paradigm Technical Support"


Me thinks its all about the benjamins. :rolleyes:

Have you picked up a 690 yet, and how well does it blend with the 100v3s?

I have the Studio 60's and I think someone mentioned that there is a 4 ohm dip when the sub hits low. Is this true? Should I set my receiver to the 4ohm setting? (It has both 4ohm and 8 ohm settings)

keep it at 8 ohm on a speaker graph it will very but when it says
compatible it spends more time there and above.

Do you guys know the tech support number for paradigm?

He doesn't necessarily need to have v.3's, I talked to paradigm tech support and they said I could use the new 690 center with my v.3 100's no problem....so I'm sure the 590's would be fine....

Hello, Paradigm experts! I'm in much the same boat as many posters here. I need to build a 7.1 system for my parents, completely from the ground up. After no small amount of agonizing, I have decided to go with Paradigm for all 7.0 and possibly the sub as well, as my preferential, hypothetical floorstanding solution. (If I still end up having to wall mount everything, well, unfortunately it seems I'll have to look elsewhere.)

Details: A room whose dimensions I now feel confident in estimating at 14 by 17 feet, with an unusual ceiling extending to 10 feet. The walls (left and right) cease being vertical at about 4.5 feet, slanting at roughly 65 degrees (more vertical) until they terminate at the actual ceiling, which is about five feet wide. I have calculated the volume of the room to be an astonishingly exact 2000 ft^3, although the majority of the back wall is in fact an entryway leading from a hallway which is just as wide. Despite the smallish size and unusual shape, the room has always been intended as a home theater room, and is symmetrical and will feature some degree of acoustic treatments.

My ultimate goal is to convince the parents that they need to acquire a set from the Studio line. (Signature prices are, realistically, beyond my ability to sell.) If that proves just too much for them, I'll downgrade the recommendation to the Monitor line. That's well and good. Now the confusing part.

Paradigm's webpage is clearly out of date. There are new models (CC-690) and new revisions of preexisting models (V4s) that simply don't get mentioned. As tempting as it may be to give their "recommended systems" a close perusal, the fact is every one of them contains outdated hardware. That means that in order to have a solid idea of what my ideal lineup will be, I must rely absolutely on the information I gather from here.

My best guess for a Studio setup: Studio 60s, four ADP-4whatevers for the surrounds, CC-590 for the center (it's going to be sitting on a wall-mounted shelf so I may not have much choice). Sub: unknown.

The questions: What are the current surround models, and would I be better off considering alternatives? What sub should I be looking into for a 2000ft^3 room? Would a Seismic 12 do? Is there a better sub for the money (even if it's larger)? Would a Servo 15 be overkill, even if I might be after the lower frequencies? (This last question is hypothecy, as I do not envision being able to convince anyone to spend $2500 on a sub.)

I haven't really investigated the Monitor series enough to have come up with a plan B.

Well for starters, with pictures and the prices, if you haven't already gotten that info..
prices www.audioemporium.com and post here for specs.. download pdf http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=8948404&&#post8948404

Studio's are by far better then the monitor line..
You will recieve lots a opinions on subs here I ended up with Studio 100's, CC-690, Studio 20's rear... and an SVS PB12-Plus/2 sub...


Subs from SVS & HSU, are good bang for your buck, the Paradigms are well reguarded as well. just a bit more money... Also Axiom has good reviews.
http://www.svsound.com/
http://www.hsuresearch.com/
http://www.axiomaudio.com/
I don't think you need to spend $2500 on a sub for that small of a room... is maybe overkill, but email all online company's and they will be happy to help you out with their thoughts..
They are very helpful, and will not try to oversell you..
I have an 8200 cu. ft. room, and running the sub I have is very filling.. at $1500.

good luck...

Warp

There are some unusual acoustic issues to solve that may result from reflections off the partially angled side walls and the high ceiling. I previously lived in a place that was like that, and it played havoc with imaging. Consider getting some acoustical consultation (I moved :) , although not for that reason).

Do you guys know the tech support number for paradigm?
Sorry, I made it sound like it was on the phone, but it was gary through e-mail :(

Yes, they told me the same thing when I needed my surrounds. Luckily my dealer was able to get me a pair of 470s, at a discounted price, so I went with them.

Of course recently, I emailed a question about using the new tweeters in the v3 series, they were totally against it :confused:

"Parts for the Studio v.4 models are not available for DIY modifications and
attempting to modify your speakers with v.4parts will void the warranty.

Thanks for choosing Paradigm speakers.

Sincerely,
Gary Takeda
Paradigm Technical Support"


Me thinks its all about the benjamins. :rolleyes:

Have you picked up a 690 yet, and how well does it blend with the 100v3s?
I haven't taken the plunge yet, I was all set to get one and starting to acquire all of the equiptment for a dedicated ht and now my girlfriend of 8 years is leaving me, so I am holding off for now.... :(

Thanks for the great info, folks. Precisely the comments I was hoping to hear.

I took a look at Paradigm's catalogs. One thing I am scratching my head over with some degree of alarm is the designs of the Monitor and Studio surrounds: the ADP-190 v.5, ADP-390 v.5, and the ADP-590. These are going to be - in my case and presumably in many cases - wall-mounted jobs. The intention will be to have the "backs" of these speakers facing the walls. But look at them:

http://www.xfaudio.it/dettaglio_prodotto/adp-190-v5.html
http://www.xfaudio.it/dettaglio_prodotto/adp-390-v5.html
http://www.xfaudio.it/dettaglio_prodotto/adp-590.html

For starters, the question gets begged: Am I going to be able to wall-mount any of these at all? At least the Monitor models have little speaker feet. The backs are not visible. Secondly, and most conspicuously, is the question of how to aim these. If I have their backs to the wall, the ADP-190 and 390 are firing the tweeter at a weird angle, and the 590 is aiming it at a right angle! Add in my dubious impression of the aesthetics of the Monitor surrounds and I am left feeling like I may have to go back to the drawing board.

all of their adp's are meant to be wall mounted.
there is an explanation on the surrounds on their
website if you want stand type i would look at
their bookshelf speakers.

all of their adp's are meant to be wall mounted.
there is an explanation on the surrounds on their
website
Would you happen to be able to point out where? They don't make it easy to find this information - especially with regard to their current models.

Would you happen to be able to point out where? They don't make it easy to find this information - especially with regard to their current models.

http://www.paradigm.com/Support/TechFAQ/TechFAQ.html

Can Paradigm® ADP™ Surrounds be placed in areas other than the side walls?

A... Yes! They can be mounted on the wall behind the listening area or on speaker stands to the left and right of the listening area. They should always be positioned so that a minimum of sound is projected directly toward the listening area. We highly recommend use of a qualified contractor to ensure that the installation is secure.

http://www.premier-av-furniture.com/SpeakerStands/SpeakerStandsHome.html

http://www.paradigm.com/Support/TechFAQ/DipolarConfusion.pdf

http://www.paradigm.com/Support/TechFAQ/TechFAQ.htmlMany thanks. Dipoles, eh? I am very much not a fan of sound that kinda-sorta sounds like it's coming from inside my head. It's an artificial effect. I think I would choose to rely on the purported ability of the ADPs to generate a non-localized soundstage on their own physical merits.

Sorry, I made it sound like it was on the phone, but it was gary through e-mail :(

Yep, email here too, and sometimes it takes up to a week to get a reply.

I haven't taken the plunge yet, I was all set to get one and starting to acquire all of the equiptment for a dedicated ht and now my girlfriend of 8 years is leaving me, so I am holding off for now.... :(

Sorry to hear that. I may later be interested in upgraded to the larger center, since it is the most dominant channel when playing back movies. Right now with my current setup, my RPTV wouldn’t be able to hold the weight anyway.

I wish Paradigm's reply concerning upgrading the v3s would of been more optimistic, as in " Yes you can upgrade the tweeter, to make your Studio 60"v3s match better with our newer line" I would of even gone with a "dealer only" install. They may have gotten another sale from me (a new 690). Maybe they do match OK, I guess time will tell. I would have to do an in home audition before I made that leap.

Many thanks. Dipoles, eh? I am very much not a fan of sound that kinda-sorta sounds like it's coming from inside my head. It's an artificial effect. I think I would choose to rely on the purported ability of the ADPs to generate a non-localized soundstage on their own physical merits.

Go back to my post on page 112. Fourth picture down. There is a small bracket that the speakers hang on, like a picture would.

I don't understand your comment? The speakers are mounted in a way that the listener sits in the "null" of the dipole. The surround info bounces off the rear and front walls before they reach your ears. Diffused, not direct sound.

It's not the same effect as listening head on to a pair of, say, Magnepan planars.

Call me an odd ball but I think I am finally happy with my set up (for now)
40's V.3 L&R
Studio CC V.2
Cinema 90's V.3 Rears
SVS SB12Plus sub
Denon 3805
Velodyne SMS-1
My complaint the last few months has been lack of lows and the Velo did a great job I have a big dip from 65 Hz to 85 Hz in my room so having my 40's and CC set to large help out the lack of 60-80 hz big time
When I watch DVD or any HT with heavy BOOM I set them to small but for Music Large sounds best TO ME

I working on getting my system completed. I have a cc-370 and mini monitor for the rears. I arranged to buy my local dealers remaining Monitor 11's when I got back from vacation and upon arriving he had sold his remaining sets. The guy is not very Knowledgeable so I have a concern about what will match my existing components.

Which Paradigm speakers would be comparable to Ascend CMT 340 SE's

try something in the studio line although they have new
speakers in the monitor line i have not heard but the studio
line is hard to beat for the price the ascend is a great speaker
what is it that you are wanting more of.

A question about rear surrounds. CUrrently I have 4 of the adp470's for my 7.1 setup and was thinking about getting a pair of studio 20's to replace 2 of them on the rear wall for rear surrounds. Since they would be mounted on brackets on the wall, would they sound ok since they appear to be ported in the front?

I'm also thinking about upgrading my cc570 to a cc690. Anyone know if the cc690 would be timber matched to the studio 60 v.3?

thanks

A question about rear surrounds. CUrrently I have 4 of the adp470's for my 7.1 setup and was thinking about getting a pair of studio 20's to replace 2 of them on the rear wall for rear surrounds. Since they would be mounted on brackets on the wall, would they sound ok since they appear to be ported in the front?

I'm also thinking about upgrading my cc570 to a cc690. Anyone know if the cc690 would be timber matched to the studio 60 v.3?

thanks
According to paradigm tech support it is a very good match to the 100 v.3's which I assume would mean it's a good match for the 60's as well........ :)

are there any online paradigm dealers?
i bought my fronts and center channel @ a place in charlotte but now they're trying to screw me on studio 20s. They're the only dealer in charlotte though so i'm either screwed or ordering online.

thanks,
Bill

are there any online paradigm dealers?
i bought my fronts and center channel @ a place in charlotte but now they're trying to screw me on studio 20s. They're the only dealer in charlotte though so i'm either screwed or ordering online.

thanks,
Bill
There are not suppose to be, but people on here have posted a canadian site, can't remember the name, but if you go back, you can find it.. I'll take a look as well....

i mean they want over 1k for studio 20s

I'm finally getting rid of some of my V.3 stuff to go V.4 and now I am wondering about which center channel to get. I am in a very small room 13x19, but will be moving in year or two and don't know if I should just get the 690 or go with the 590. Does anybody have experience with the two? Is the 690 better or just bigger and louder?

JohnnyV.3, check out the Freeman's in Cornelius. That's the next closest Paradigm dealer and I've always bought from them. Sounds like you must have gone to the new Freeman's in Charlotte...

I'm finally getting rid of some of my V.3 stuff to go V.4 and now I am wondering about which center channel to get. I am in a very small room 13x19, but will be moving in year or two and don't know if I should just get the 690 or go with the 590. Does anybody have experience with the two? Is the 690 better or just bigger and louder?

I just bought the 690 and I think the bass extension is bit better, not sure if you will see a huge difference if your crossin over with a sub... but deff. has great mid bass presence..
I have a much larger room though, thats why I went big... and Im also driving with 200wpc.
What are you driving the speakers with... Maybe that would help determine what you should go with...


Warp

Per my question earlier, any users have studio 20's wall mounted as rear surrounds?

i mean they want over 1k for studio 20s

Should be $899 + tax. Maybe take a road trip for them. I would stay away from online as Paradigm will not honor the warranty from an unauthorized dealer.

What is Freeman's trying to get from you.

DN

The Good News:

I'm going to be upgrading my current set up ($200 Pioneer Receiver, JBL E80 mains & JBL EC35 Center) with a Denon AVR4306, Paradigm Studio 60's, Studio 20's, and the CC-690 Center.... I can get a great deal on all the equipment and will be saving a bundle... Very excited about the upgrade.... I'm pretty young (25) and have not been involved in home theater for very long.... I think I'm going to be blown away by the new set up... Have all the funds saved up already....



The Bad News:

I'm in a transitional phase... I currently live in the basement of family friends and am waiting on my friend and his brother so that we can move into a house... Most of my stuff (computer, tv, HT gear) is in storage in Maryland.... I can't purchase any of the above mentioned equipment until I move out... I'm saving a lot of money living here as they are not accepting any rent from me but I'm dying to have my possessions back and my own room again...

I plan on buying an Ipod too so that I can load all my music onto it and hook it up directly to the AVR4306 with the AKP100 cable....


I'm going to listen to the v4's this Saturday.... I've heard the v3's and was impressed..... v4's just got delivered about a week ago to my local dealer (Rabson's).....

haha isn't it nice to be young and reward busting your ass with some nice paradigm speakers

Per my question earlier, any users have studio 20's wall mounted as rear surrounds?

I'm in the same boat and would be interested in the answer. Just for grins I called the local rep. that sold me my paradigm set up and he said no to the idea of direct radiating speakers, including the 20's for the rears in a 7.1 set up. He doesn't like the direct sound...calls attention to itself vs the diffuse soundstage created by the dipoles.

Another idea I am going to try is to bracket mount my 470's and trying various tilts and moving the speakers to help fill in the rear soundstage. I never felt the rear soundstage was as full as it should be....so instead of adding some diffusion panels or other acoustic treatments (low WAF), I thought I would try either the 20's or mounting of the 470's and adjusting their direction to see what effect that may have.

But like dvdguru, I would love to hear ideas or experiences of others.

Ron

I have called into a dealer and they have a Monitor 7v4. I was looking at the Monitor 11's but they don't have any more. I've listened to them and the shop wants $600 for them. I have a cc-370 and mini monitors for the rears. Wouls you say go for them 7vs's or spend $120 more and go for the 9v5's?

Thanks for any help you guys.

[QUOTE]What are you driving the speakers with... Maybe that would help determine what you should go with...[QUOTE]

I'm driving them with basic crap...Anthem 20 and an ATI 1505. Yes, I have basic sub too, Servo15.
I just don't know what to do. I mean the 570 is certainly enough in my room and so the 590 will probably do fine here and in my next house. But then I'll always know I don't have the top model and will wonder what I am missing. I know the 690 will look silly in my room too. The wife says get whatever you want. (maybe I should marry that girl)

i buy the most you can afford no regrets after all the speakers make or break
a system faster than any other component.

JohnnyV.3, check out the Freeman's in Cornelius. That's the next closest Paradigm dealer and I've always bought from them. Sounds like you must have gone to the new Freeman's in Charlotte...
Must have me mixed up with someone else, I'm from Minnesota.... :)

OOPS! Yep, that message was for sumfoo1 :)

there is a favorable review in the march issue of home theater mag
for the studio 20v4.

I have an old set of Titans and a PDR-10. There is not a version number on the speakers so I am assuming they are v.1. I bought them almost 13 years ago.

I am making the jump from an old receiver to a new home theater set up. (To go with the new Plasma)

Do you think they will match up alright with the CC-190 and the ADP-190's?

On another note I was looking at a Pioneer VSX-1016TX at best buy which looked okay, but the local dealer was pushing me towards the Marantz SR5001 or SR4001. Is Marantz worth the extra $$$?

So I finally sold my center channel out of my speaker set I'm selling. (60's, 20's, CC-570)
Then I had a friend come over with his V.4 20's and I compared them side by side with my V.3's. Man I wish I would have done this before I sold my center.

What I found wasn't that big. Yes there were differences, but I could be happy with either. Add in the hassle of trying to sell and take a $$ loss. I don't know if it is worth it.

The V.4's sound a tad clearer in the mids than their older counterpart,which is what I was hoping for, but the V.3's seemed a little more up front with everything which I liked as well. I don't know if it was the older tweeter or what, which I think the V.4 was more laid back with. It definitely wasn't a huge difference for me in my room.
So I guess I will continue to convert to V.4 and then go take a shower.

I don't know if this will be of any use to anybody, but I thought I'd share anyway.

I ordered the following for my HT (its about 15' wide by 23' length in size):

7.1 system:

Studio 100's
CC690 Center
ADP-590's for the side and rear speakers
Server 15 Subwoofer

Sony 5200 A/V Receiver

My question is how much WPC do I need? I was thinking of using the Sony Receiver's 120wpc for now.

If not enough, how many WPC would you recommend? Any particular amp that is reasonable in price that can deliver the wpc I need?

So I finally sold my center channel out of my speaker set I'm selling. (60's, 20's, CC-570)
Then I had a friend come over with his V.4 20's and I compared them side by side with my V.3's.

It would be interesting if you could pick up the new v4 center (which ever model you chose) and compare/report the timbre match with your 60v3s. Even though my 570 matches fine with my 60v3s, there still is a slight difference in timbre, due to different heights, speaker configuration, and room positioning. Noticeable with pink noise only, but not real movie material. And of course Paradigm says it all should match... :D

I wonder how much of the "improvements" could be matched with digital EQ. Most rooms could use a little room correction, I plan on picking up a new or used Behringer DEQ2496, to put in my PC hard drive/ Squeezebox digital chain, (2 channel music system with HT bypass) to tweek my 60s. If it works out, maybe another analog EQ model on the HT side, to do the same.

Sounds to me, if nothing else, you could hang on the 20v3s for your surrounds, and save some $$$.

I ordered the following for my HT (its about 15' wide by 23' length in size):

7.1 system:

Studio 100's
CC690 Center
ADP-590's for the side and rear speakers
Server 15 Subwoofer

Sony 5200 A/V Receiver

My question is how much WPC do I need? I was thinking of using the Sony Receiver's 120wpc for now.

If not enough, how many WPC would you recommend? Any particular amp that is reasonable in price that can deliver the wpc I need?

Hey, Lightstrikes.. nice setup you got there... Much like what I did for my setup (http://s34.photobucket.com/albums/d109/Warpdrv/home%20theater/?action=view&current=1169334444.pbw) ..
I couldn't have implimented the adps here though... But let me tell you... your setup will rock.... I am thrilled with the sound of my system...
I have the 100's and 690 with the 20's for rears...
I bought a Pioneer receiver for the temporary Pre/Pro... and leased out the power problem to a Rotel RMB-1095 200 x 5.. I got mine used off audiogon for $1200. I would highly suggest that you power both the 100's and 690 with more power then that receiver will provide.. and let the receiver handle the 4 surrounds,(surrounds require far less power then the Main's and that 690) if your looking to save a few $$ (I have intentions of separates so I needed 5 channel amp) You could probably get by with a 3 x 200 or 250... but those 3 speakers will be looking to have some effecient power...
I won't begin to suggest which amp you should get, as most out there will fit the bill just fine.. I Love my Rotel, but If I would do it again, and I had thoughts of keeping my pioneer for a pre/pro I would go for a 3 channel powerplant, and let my receiver do the job of the surrounds...

Good luck... I have a contact for a new http://www.earthquakesound.com/cng_5.htm for $2k... but they also make a 3 channel and I could see what I could do for that if you like... http://www.earthquakesound.com/cng_3.htm Pm me if you would like some details... I have no affiliations with this guy, he has a dealership in my area.

Agree with Warp, you are definitely going to want some amp power behind those front three. Although if you start out just using the receiver you are going to experience the true power once you throw an amp in. I have the 100's and 690 powered by an Anthem A5. Perfect match for me.

Sounds to me, if nothing else, you could hang on the 20v3s for your surrounds, and save some $$$

That is a thought, but I am a "all gotta match type of guy". Plus I think I am gonna try ADP's this time around.
I should have just took a pair home and A/B'd the two before I started all of this. I mainly care about the 60's since I mostly listen to music using just them...and of course they're the hardest to sell. Plus I am not really into selling my Anthem for a receiver with room correction so I'd better get the same version.

Thanks.

Thanks for the offer on the amp, but I think I'll use the dealer I've been working with on the speakers. He's been helping alot on giving advise on my HT construction. I may look at that Anthem amp for the 3 front speakers. 200 WPC seems plenty for the power.

Thanks for the offer on the amp, but I think I'll use the dealer I've been working with on the speakers. He's been helping alot on giving advise on my HT construction. I may look at that Anthem amp for the 3 front speakers. 200 WPC seems plenty for the power.

Wise Choice... I don't like shipping, and I like to work with a dealer and put my hands on what Im buying... I was lucky with my amp, used but the guy met me within an hour drive...

You won't be sorry, with all that power when your trying to blow womens clothes off with your speakers.... :)
Also I a/b'd amps and anthem's were very revealing to me, and the rotel's were a little more subdued... which I liked as I have a bright room. Make sure you sample a few different brands if you can... :)

I was wondering if I could get some advice. I am in the market for some new speakers to replace my 30 year old JBL L40 speakers. I was very impressed by the new Monitor 11s. I compared them to the Monitor 7s, the 600 and 700 series B&W speakers, and some others, and thought they sounded great.

I then went to another high end store and heard the Monitor Audio RS6 speakers, which I thought sounded great too. Unfortunately, neither place had the other speaker, so I couldn't compare them.

Taking for granted the subjectivity of rating speakers, has anyone had the opportunity to compare these head on?

Also, has anyone seen any professional reviews of the v.5 Monitors? I've been trying to research them on the internet but all I can find is reviews of the v.4 models, and my understanding is that they are so radically changed this year that any previous reviews are not worth anything.

I also haven't hear the 9s yet, just the 7s and 11s. After hearing the 11s the 7s just didn't cut it, but I'm hoping that the 9s may be closer the the 11s in terms of soundstaging and presence.

Any input would be much appreciated.

Ken

I currently have the v3 Studio 100, cc-570, and 4 ADP-470's. My current subwoofer is mediocre at best. I have a chance to buy a new Signature Servo for around $1800 at a local B&M store. Is paradigm coming out with new Servo lines? I was just curious about the price drop. I am not sure if I want to spend this much on a sub, but it seems like a pretty sweet deal.

I figured that I would go ahead and chime in here as I am also a Paradigm owner.
-1 set of original Titans (with the great tweeter, forget who makes that)
-1 set of Titan v.3s
-1 set of Monitor 5s (original design, floor standing, single lower driver + tweeter config)
-1 Servo 15a (not the v.2)

Unfortunately as of late my Servo 15 has no output and I was wondering if anyone here has had any luck troubleshooting one. I've narrowed it down to the internal amplifier, but that is as far as I have gotten. If anyone has a schematic for it I'd love to get my hands on it to try and troubleshoot it. Sent an email to Paradigm's tech support last week; haven't heard back yet.

Thanks! :)

-Biggly

Unfortunately as of late my Servo 15 has no output and I was wondering if anyone here has had any luck troubleshooting one. I've narrowed it down to the internal amplifier, but that is as far as I have gotten.

-Biggly
Definitely a squirrel problem. Check inside the cabinet for possible nests, those buggers love a big subwoofer this time of year.

how are the paradigm lines arranged ?
i keep getting confused on which is top.
i think i'm ordering some studio 40s for my rears later this week

btw.. i have and rx v 1600 amp (temp) running my speakers, should i bi amp the studio 100s until i decide i need more than 5.1??

Definitely a squirrel problem. Check inside the cabinet for possible nests, those buggers love a big subwoofer this time of year.The Servo is not ported.

Ed

My current subwoofer is mediocre at best. I have a chance to buy a new Signature Servo for around $1800 at a local B&M store.

You shoud be all over that!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is like half price for an excellent sub. I don't think they'll be a V.2 version for a while. Since it is based on the V.2 version in regular line that came out about a year ago. Tell me where the dealer is and I'll go buy it!

Unfortunately as of late my Servo 15 has no output and I was wondering if anyone here has had any luck troubleshooting one.

If you have a dealer nearby, I would call them and then take it down there and see if they can help. Tech support via email can only help so much. They'll probably tell you the same thing or have you send it to them. Good luck.

I was wondering if I could get some advice. I am in the market for some new speakers to replace my 30 year old JBL L40 speakers. I was very impressed by the new Monitor 11s. I compared them to the Monitor 7s, the 600 and 700 series B&W speakers, and some others, and thought they sounded great.

I then went to another high end store and heard the Monitor Audio RS6 speakers, which I thought sounded great too. Unfortunately, neither place had the other speaker, so I couldn't compare them.

Taking for granted the subjectivity of rating speakers, has anyone had the opportunity to compare these head on?

Also, has anyone seen any professional reviews of the v.5 Monitors? I've been trying to research them on the internet but all I can find is reviews of the v.4 models, and my understanding is that they are so radically changed this year that any previous reviews are not worth anything.

I also haven't hear the 9s yet, just the 7s and 11s. After hearing the 11s the 7s just didn't cut it, but I'm hoping that the 9s may be closer the the 11s in terms of soundstaging and presence.

Any input would be much appreciated.

Ken

I listened to the v.5 monitor 11s for about an hour the other day. I actually thought they sounded VERY similar to my v.4 monitor 11s. I do think the v.5s have a slighty better crossover in the upper mid-bass range.

One pet peive though... I cannot stand the new magnetic grills on the v.5s.

-Eli

The Servo is not ported.

Ed
They're very tiny squirrels.

If you have a dealer nearby, I would call them and then take it down there and see if they can help. Tech support via email can only help so much. They'll probably tell you the same thing or have you send it to them. Good luck.

I had not thought of that and will check to see who in my area sells them, but I'm certainly not transporting that monster without due cause! As far as emailing tech support, I was hoping to at least hear back with some sort of contact number or repair options; so far I've gotten nada, which is disappointing and unprofessional considering they claim that most emails are responded to within 24hrs. :rolleyes:

-Biggly

P.S. Anyone know where to find a schematic for the unit? I have access to great amounts of test equipment, but without the schematic none of it is of any value.

I currently have the v3 Studio 100, cc-570, and 4 ADP-470's. My current subwoofer is mediocre at best. I have a chance to buy a new Signature Servo for around $1800 at a local B&M store. Is paradigm coming out with new Servo lines? I was just curious about the price drop. I am not sure if I want to spend this much on a sub, but it seems like a pretty sweet deal.
you can't even get a servo-15 for that price i would jump on that.

I had not thought of that and will check to see who in my area sells them, but I'm certainly not transporting that monster without due cause! As far as emailing tech support, I was hoping to at least hear back with some sort of contact number or repair options; so far I've gotten nada, which is disappointing and unprofessional considering they claim that most emails are responded to within 24hrs. :rolleyes:

-Biggly

P.S. Anyone know where to find a schematic for the unit? I have access to great amounts of test equipment, but without the schematic none of it is of any value.
going through an authorized dealer is going to get the best results i had a 100
with a dragging voice coil my dealer sent it to them and they replaced it no
questions asked don't get in a big hurry it took 3 weeks but it was free.

I listened to the v.5 monitor 11s for about an hour the other day. I actually thought they sounded VERY similar to my v.4 monitor 11s. I do think the v.5s have a slighty better crossover in the upper mid-bass range.

One pet peive though... I cannot stand the new magnetic grills on the v.5s.

-Eli

Did you have the opportunity to hear the new Monitor 9s? If so I'm curious as to how they compare. I have heard the 7s and 11s but not the 9s.

Ken

Did you have the opportunity to hear the new Monitor 9s? If so I'm curious as to how they compare. I have heard the 7s and 11s but not the 9s.

Ken

I did. The 9's are a larger improvment over the v.4 9s but I am still partial to the 11s.

I have owned a lot of Paradigms in my day. I have been running the v.4 11s for over 2 years now. IMHO (which means MY OPINION) the only Paradigms I like better than the 11s are the studio 100s.

For me it is just something about the balance and power handling of the 11s that I am very fond of.

YMMV.

-Eli

Did you have the opportunity to hear the new Monitor 9s? If so I'm curious as to how they compare. I have heard the 7s and 11s but not the 9s.

Ken

I would strongly have to agree with TJEli....
With both the 100's .v4 and the 11's .v5 side by side, I couldn't find myself going to a lower model of either speaker in both the studio or monitor line, for my mains..
The monitor series will require a sub, IMO as even the specs don't get much lower then 50hz.. and I like my bass. Not many speakers with a slim design go really low. The 100's are spec'd to hit 28hz.

I really was hooked on the 100's, but I do have to say that the 40's and the 20's really had a solid, warm and accurate sound. But wouldn't cut it as mains in my huge room..

Oh yeah, and +1 on the magnets suck comment.. glad the studio's didn't have that, and stuck with the grommets.

I am just of the opinion of go big or go home.. :D

I know you guys have benn waiting on pins and needles so I just thought I'd share that I finally sold all of my V.3 stuff. Moving on to the V.4's now....or maybe I should look at Revel? ;)

Anyone know what a pair of Mon 9 ver 2 and matching cc-350 are worth, in perfect working condition and 9 on looks quality. Oh and also mini mon's ver 2 as well.

I was hoping to at least hear back with some sort of contact number or repair options; so far I've gotten nada, which is disappointing and unprofessional considering they claim that most emails are responded to within 24hrs. :rolleyes:


Last time I emailed Paradigm (1/18), they got a reply back to me on 1/26 (and apologized for the delay).

don't know how anyone can complain about the pricing of the paradigm studio 100's at about can$2400.00/pr. many people think nothing of spending over a thousand dollars on amplification, but then tighten up when it comes to the least efficient part of the system. I say spend the money on the speakers even if it means spending less on the wattage eh?

have you listened to the jbl l890's? if you like the jbl sound they are a good bet.

I have come across a couple of mentions of Paradigm coming out with a v2 Signature series. Can anyone confirm this? If so what was updated/changed?

Thanks

Just trying to save myself the trip to the stereo store to find out as it may be scarry what ends up 'following' me home...

I have come across a couple of mentions of Paradigm coming out with a v2 Signature series. Can anyone confirm this? If so what was updated/changed?

Thanks

Just trying to save myself the trip to the stereo store to find out as it may be scarry what ends up 'following' me home...
I just read something on the avguide site and it was referring to the 2006 cedia show, they did say the new sig line is v2, it also said they look the same but have made substantial upgrades, but thats all the info they gave....

I have come across a couple of mentions of Paradigm coming out with a v2 Signature series. Can anyone confirm this? If so what was updated/changed?

As of yet, I haven't seen any new information other then the fact that there are the new Sig 6's... I think alot of people are patiently waiting on this info as well....

All I know... is I can't afford them... :( :o :( :cool:

I think that the tweeter on the Sigs v2 is now berrylium. And the old Sig tweeters are now on the Reference V4.

Ed

...the old Sig tweeters are now on the Reference V4.

Ed

This is a misconception. The v.4 Studios are inheriting only the tweeter domes from the v.1 Sigs, not the whole tweeter. The v.1 Signature tweeter has a better motor structure (bigger magnets, damped chamber) than either the v.3 or v.4 Studio tweeter.

Cheers,

S.

I have come across a couple of mentions of Paradigm coming out with a v2 Signature series. Can anyone confirm this? If so what was updated/changed?

Thanks

Just trying to save myself the trip to the stereo store to find out as it may be scarry what ends up 'following' me home...
Check this out: http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=48391

You shoud be all over that!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is like half price for an excellent sub. I don't think they'll be a V.2 version for a while. Since it is based on the V.2 version in regular line that came out about a year ago. Tell me where the dealer is and I'll go buy it!

Actually it's gone. I am not too distraught. I would have had to sell a kidney. I just bought a 70" XBR2 two months ago and really don't have the extra cash. OK, I am a little bummed. Guess it's on to looking for a used Servo-15.

This is a misconception. The v.4 Studios are inheriting only the tweeter domes from the v.1 Sigs, not the whole tweeter. The v.1 Signature tweeter has a better motor structure (bigger magnets, damped chamber) than either the v.3 or v.4 Studio tweeter.

Cheers,

S.

Do you know this for sure?Where did you see the info?I heard that they used the whole tweeter.

Thanks much for this information. Much better to absorb this in the comforts of my own home than in front of my sales guy.

Do you know this for sure?Where did you see the info?I heard that they used the whole tweeter.

Here is a quote form their press release..

The gold-anodizing process used on the G-PAL dome guarantees superb rigidity without adding mass. In addition, the reduced radius of curvature on the new tweeter diaphragm elicits inherent improvements in sound dispersion. The phase-alignment bridge and slightly elevated position of the tweeter dome within the WaveGuide™ chassis further improve sound dispersion off axis. High-power dual ferrite/ceramic magnets, powerful motor structures, and die-cast heatsink chassis remain unchanged from the previous generation.

Thanks for the info.When I bought my 20's and cc590 the sales guy said they replaced the tweeter,I just assumed it was the whole thing.I still love the sound from them.

its hard to go wrong with the studio line you get a lot for the money.

Do you know this for sure?Where did you see the info?I heard that they used the whole tweeter.

From Paradigm's press release at www.castercomm.com describing the new v.4 Studio line:

"This fourth-generation of speakers features two significant design upgrades: G-PAL™ gold-anodized pure-aluminum tweeter domes (introduced in the company’s critically acclaimed Signature Series) and S-PAL™ satin-anodized pure-aluminum woofer cones... The phase-alignment bridge and slightly elevated position of the tweeter dome within the WaveGuide™ chassis further improve sound dispersion off axis. High-power dual ferrite/ceramic magnets, powerful motor structures, and die-cast heatsink chassis remain unchanged from the previous generation."

Cheers,

S.

i mean they want over 1k for studio 20s
I bought my 20's v4 and cc 590 for $699CDN + tax(each).

Did anyone read the review of the Studio 20's in Home Theater Magazine?

They recommended 2 Paradigm subs for these speakers.... Either the Seismic series or another one (can't remember the name)...


Which subs was the review referring to and how much do they retail for???

Did anyone read the review of the Studio 20's in Home Theater Magazine?

They recommended 2 Paradigm subs for these speakers.... Either the Seismic series or another one (can't remember the name)...


Which subs was the review referring to and how much do they retail for???
can you give me a link to that review?

sorry... I was reading the article at work and the mag belonged to one of the Execs...

It was the March 2007 edition of Home Theater Magazine (i think)...

It was a 3 page write up on the Studio 20's and it got very high scores from the guy reviewing it....

Looking back, they recommended using either the Seismic 10" or 12" or the Servo-15 with the Studio speakers....

Can anyone please tell me how much each of these 3 subs retail for?

sorry... I was reading the article at work and the mag belonged to one of the Execs...

It was the March 2007 edition of Home Theater Magazine (i think)...

It was a 3 page write up on the Studio 20's and it got very high scores from the guy reviewing it....

Looking back, they recommended using either the Seismic 10" or 12" or the Servo-15 with the Studio speakers....

Can anyone please tell me how much each of these 3 subs retail for?
it was home theater mag and the servo-15 and seismic-10 were
mentioned.

Can anyone please tell me how much each of these 3 subs retail for?

If I recall correctly, $1300 for the Seismic 10 and $1700 for the Seismic 12.
$2200 for the Servo15. I have been very impressed by all three.

It was a 3 page write up on the Studio 20's and it got very high scores from the guy reviewing it....

Not that I wouldn't concur re: the 20's, but "HT Mag" hardly every gives something a bad review. Kinda like S&V. I think I've read three reviews where they didn't recommend a product.

Auditioned some Mini monitors and similary priced B&W s. To my surprise I liked the Paradigm better. Any place to get these on line or do I have to go to a B&M store. Im sold

Auditioned some Mini monitors and similary priced B&W s. To my surprise I liked the Paradigm better. Any place to get these on line or do I have to go to a B&M store. Im sold

Paradigm does'nt sell new stuff online.

http://www.paradigm.com/Website/Dealers/Dealers.html

Paradigm® and Paradigm® Reference are only sold through Authorized Dealers. These are the finest in the market and have the expertise and facilities to demonstrate the superior performance and Unparalleled value of our products!

Paradigm® and Paradigm® Reference products are not available mail-order!

Any product purchased from an unauthorized dealer does not carry a factory warranty!

Thanks, I was kinda of getting that impression when my searches were turning up very little info. Thought Id ask anyway in case I was missing something.

I listened to the v.5 monitor 11s for about an hour the other day. I actually thought they sounded VERY similar to my v.4 monitor 11s. I do think the v.5s have a slighty better crossover in the upper mid-bass range.

One pet peive though... I cannot stand the new magnetic grills on the v.5s.

-Eli
Ha that's cool - I love the new grille.
I also loved the sound of the Monitor 11v4, which is why I got a pair of Monitor 11v5 and moved my 11v4 to my rears - now I have great speakers in all channels complimented with a Servo 15v2 for the sub. The 11's do have a wonderful overall sound.
You shoud be all over that!!!!!!!!!!!!! That is like half price for an excellent sub. I don't think they'll be a V.2 version for a while. Since it is based on the V.2 version in regular line that came out about a year ago. Tell me where the dealer is and I'll go buy it!
Absolutely - it is a steal. The sig Servo has amazing bass response and THD in the lower realms.
http://www.avtalk.co.uk/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=13932&start=0&rid=14&SQ=1127556373
The performance of the Sig beats out all of the SVS and Velodyne subs tested (including the DD-15, DD-18 and 1812) for THD in the realms below 30Hz and is very nicely controlled throughout the 20-80Hz range. Cross it over at around 70Hz or so and you have one of the best subs you can possibly buy.
I did. The 9's are a larger improvment over the v.4 9s but I am still partial to the 11s.
I have owned a lot of Paradigms in my day. I have been running the v.4 11s for over 2 years now. IMHO (which means MY OPINION) the only Paradigms I like better than the 11s are the studio 100s.
For me it is just something about the balance and power handling of the 11s that I am very fond of.
YMMV.
-Eli
Eli I absolutely 100% agree with you. I would take the 11v4's and 5's over everything else in Paradigm's line up to the 100's and Sig line.
I just read something on the avguide site and it was referring to the 2006 cedia show, they did say the new sig line is v2, it also said they look the same but have made substantial upgrades, but thats all the info they gave....
You can find out more on the Sigs v2 from castercomm's website.
The Sigv2 document can be downloaded here.
http://castercomm.com/pr_docs/ACFF3B.doc

Hello all..

Thought I would share my new excitment. :)

Got my hands on studio 80's V2 wood finish (my old time fav. speaker)..

but....

started thinking, since the V2 tweeter is old, what would happen if I replaced it with a V4 tweeter..

and.........

WOW!!! Sounds like a totally new speaker... (still a little hot on treble, not sure if because of crossover, or tweeter needs to be broken in)...

Here is the strange thing.. I own Signature S4's V1!! and to my surprise, the 80's sound better!!! :)

Not just with the bass, but the S4's sounded a little "nazzle" in the mids.. (from day one, thought I heard this effect).. But.. with the 80's, MUCH, MUCH fuller mids, soundstage, etc.. I am very, very, very, shocked..as I love my S4's...

BTW, now the 80's match my Signature C5 center.. Just awesome...

:) :)

Auditioned some Mini monitors and similary priced B&W s. To my surprise I liked the Paradigm better. Any place to get these on line or do I have to go to a B&M store. Im sold

Did you happen to check out the new Atom's while you were there? What's your thoughts on using the Mini Monitors without a sub for listening to music?

I made an appointment to audition both the Atoms and the Mini Monitors this coming Monday. I hoping they live up to my expectations, since they are certainly in my price range. So far the Polk LSi7's continue to be my favorite speaker in this size range.

Jon

started thinking, since the V2 tweeter is old, what would happen if I replaced it with a V4 tweeter.

So what's the part# of the new tweeter, and the MSRP? How did you get your hands on one?

The reason I ask, being interested in doing the same, I emailed Paradigm, in which they stated they were totally against any diy of this sort (I posted this reply a few pages back).

In this context, if a dealer orders one of these, I would think Paradigm would demand they return the original part being replaced. Of course I haven't ran this past my dealer yet, last time I was there, they still didn't have any v4s.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's great you were able to do this. :)

So what's the part# of the new tweeter, and the MSRP? How did you get your hands on one?

:)

Glad you asked.... :)

I worked out a very sweet deal with my friend (which owed me a good chunk of money) :eek: .. He had bought the new studio 20's V4 :mad: Since he owed me money, we worked out a deal that I get his new speakers and some cash as payment, and I would give him my old studio 40's V2 .... So this started the experimenting :) :) Now i'm using the tweeters from those speakers, but the rest of the 20's are not being used...(well worth it, as the 80's now sound even better :) )

I had not even thought of going to my dealer or contact paradigm as all this happened so suddenly.. :D

I hope you dealer can do something..

I've been evaluating several speakers in the Paradigm line, in particular the new Monitor 9 and 11, and the Studio 20. I thought I was going to go with the Monitor line until I had the chance today to really listen to the Studio 20, and was really impressed. It seemed to have a clearer and more transparent sound and better imaging. The only thing it was missing was the bass that the freestanding units have.

For those of you who have evaluated the new Studio series I would appreciate your thoughts on the differences between the 20, 40, and 60. If I am using a subwoofer for music as well as movies, will there be much of a benefit in going with the 40 or the 60 instead of the 20? Can the subwoofer make up the difference in the bass? According to one of the salepeople, the 40 and 60 will also have better midrange because of the different crossovers, so it is not just a bass issue.

Also, has anyone compared the Studio series to the Revel F12? I was pretty impressed with that as well. Unfortunately the store that carried that did not carry the new Paradigm line.

I also have a question regarding the specifications for the Studio series. I looked at this year's Studio specs compared to last year's brochure for the v.3, and the specs are identical. Even the description of the tweeter is identical. It was my understanding the the tweeter from the Signature series was put into the Studio line, so I should be seeing different descriptions.

Does anyone know what is going on here?

Thanks.

Ken

I've been evaluating several speakers in the Paradigm line, in particular the new Monitor 9 and 11, and the Studio 20. I thought I was going to go with the Monitor line until I had the chance today to really listen to the Studio 20, and was really impressed. It seemed to have a clearer and more transparent sound and better imaging. The only thing it was missing was the bass that the freestanding units have.

For those of you who have evaluated the new Studio series I would appreciate your thoughts on the differences between the 20, 40, and 60. If I am using a subwoofer for music as well as movies, will there be much of a benefit in going with the 40 or the 60 instead of the 20? Can the subwoofer make up the difference in the bass? According to one of the salepeople, the 40 and 60 will also have better midrange because of the different crossovers, so it is not just a bass issue.

Also, has anyone compared the Studio series to the Revel F12? I was pretty impressed with that as well. Unfortunately the store that carried that did not carry the new Paradigm line.

I also have a question regarding the specifications for the Studio series. I looked at this year's Studio specs compared to last year's brochure for the v.3, and the specs are identical. Even the description of the tweeter is identical. It was my understanding the the tweeter from the Signature series was put into the Studio line, so I should be seeing different descriptions.

Does anyone know what is going on here?

Thanks.

Ken

When I listened to the new series over the V3, the Mids seemed to pop out more , and the treble is more laid back..

The sweet spot, seems to have been improved as well..

As for size.. I myself like the bigger speaker.. With 40's being the smallest I would go.. The mids do sound better with the 40's and up, as well as a bigger soundstage.. If I were you, I would go for the 60's, even with a sub..

This way, you get a very full sound and big soundstage, will the sub just fills in the very lowest octaves..

Just my 2 cents.. :)

When I listened to the new series over the V3, the Mids seemed to pop out more , and the treble is more laid back..

The sweet spot, seems to have been improved as well..

As for size.. I myself like the bigger speaker.. With 40's being the smallest I would go.. The mids do sound better with the 40's and up, as well as a bigger soundstage.. If I were you, I would go for the 60's, even with a sub..

This way, you get a very full sound and big soundstage, will the sub just fills in the very lowest octaves..

Just my 2 cents.. :)
Will there really be a noticeable difference between using a Studio 40 with a sub and Studio 60 without? As far as I know, the only difference between them is the larger cabinet of the 60, which I assume would increase the bass. I would think that the sub could offset that.

Another unrelated question: When I was looking at the Monitor series was planning on buying the 290 center speaker. The 290 will just fit in the stand below my tv; the 390 is way too big. Now that I am looking at the Studio series, can I still use the 290? The center speaker for the Studio series is just going to be too big. Am I making a mistake doing this?

Ken

i would not mix the lines there is a noticeable difference.

If you you have a smaller room and a "musical sub", I think you would be fine with the 20's. Maybe put the extra money toward better amplification? On the other hand, I have a small room and use 60's and just use my sub for the lower octaves where my 60's can't reach. So I guess my point is it kinda depends on your room-size and your sub AND most importantly what sounds good to you in your room. I've never really listened to the 40's so I can't comment on that.

Also I agree with Oztech, go with a Studio center, as matching the front three is always recommended.

Here is a quote from their press release re: the changes in V.4
This fourth-generation of speakers features two significant design upgrades: G-PAL™ gold-anodized pure-aluminum tweeter domes (introduced in the company’s critically acclaimed Signature Series) and S-PAL™ satin-anodized pure-aluminum woofer cones for the mid-range driver

Notice the change for the tweeter is only in the domes, not the whole tweeter structure. The motor, magnets and chasis remain the same.

Hey all. Looking for a list or a link to a list of MSRPs for the current Signature series. I was surprised to discover how scarce this specific information is. Thanks in advance.