i think powering up my surr & back will be over kill.....i do 50 ht - 50 music w/ my ps3 & apple tv....

is the emotiva xpa-3 200w x 3 enough for my stuido 100 & cc690

thanks

Yes. The Emotiva says 200w x 3, they mean it. If you look at the reviews that amp can drive true 200w to each channel.

Yes. The Emotiva says 200w x 3, they mean it. If you look at the reviews that amp can drive true 200w to each channel.

what i mean is ... the xpa 5 will help my entire system.... cuz when i played music i used only two channel ( L & R ) if i used HT my surr & back will be drive by my receiver ? the front & center will be drive by XPA-3...in music im not listening w/ all channel....

my question is the XPA-3 enough for what i need.... it will sound better if i use XPA-5 that XPA3 .....i have 7.1 channel.....

Guys I am looking at getting some speakers for 90% HT/TV/Games and 10% music. I listened to the Monitor 7's and really liked them but then also listened to some M&K speakers at another location and really liked those. I wish I could listen to both setups at the same store to compare directly but I can't so I'm going to go back to each store and listen to each setup again. My question is about the Studio 20s. I only have one local Paradigm dealer around me and they don't have any of the studio line setup to listen to so I just have to read reviews and take people's word for how they are. I hear so many good things about them that I am tempted to buy those. <snip>

I recently spent a lot of time comparing the MiniMonitor, Monitor 7, 9 and Studio 20. Best word to describe the Studio 20 is neutral, in that they do not colour the sound as much. Many speakers colour the sound in various ways, but the Studio 20 is very flat, leading to very natural sounding vocals, which was a priority for me. It's a personal preference, though. Some people like the aggressive mids that Klipsh horns have, others may want a fatter bottom end. I found that the Monitor line was a bit pronounced in the mids, but still better than other brands. In the end I spent the extra money on the Studio 20 for a better music listening experience. Due to the larger driver size they also produce a good amount bass compared to smaller towers like the Monitor 7. (My personal feeling is that a good music setup should also be able to do HT just fine, but bear in mind that for HT the centre speaker can handle 70% of the material and is just as important.)

I'm also in the same boat in not being able to afford the Studio centre or surrounds, so I'm stepping down until I can afford to upgrade later. I'm getting a used Studio CC centre (version 2), but I've been told that the older Monitor centres like the version 3 have a tweeter that is close in timber to the new Studio speakers, so you may want to consider the used market.

As to auditioning the Studio 20, perhaps someone here could recommend something similar that you could listen to locally, perhaps from B&W? Tough to say, for me, because the over dozen speakers that I auditioned all had a unique sound.

Thanks for the input Tank! I just found another store in town that sells Paradigm. The owner said he didn't have any Studio 20s in the office but he has some at home and is going to bring them to the office tomorrow to let me listen to them :). He even offered to let me come by his house to listen to them! I can't wait to listen to them.

Question regarding MSRP for the Studio 10. I've been under the impression based on my research that they were $798, and was even told that by a sales guy at my dealer a few weeks ago during my first audition. I then went back yesterday to buy and was told by a second sales guy that retail was $898 (not $798).

I left without buying, but then emailed the first sales guy for clarification. He confirmed that retail is in fact $898 and that "we got a price increase from Paradigm". He said he'd honor the discounted price he'd originally given me of ~$700, but I''m a little perplexed by the whole situation. Did the prices in fact go up at some point, and if so why?

can anyone comment on the milleniaone 5.0 setup? too new for online reviews.

Question regarding MSRP for the Studio 10. I've been under the impression based on my research that they were $798, and was even told that by a sales guy at my dealer a few weeks ago during my first audition. I then went back yesterday to buy and was told by a second sales guy that retail was $898 (not $798).

I left without buying, but then emailed the first sales guy for clarification. He confirmed that retail is in fact $898 and that "we got a price increase from Paradigm". He said he'd honor the discounted price he'd originally given me of ~$700, but I''m a little perplexed by the whole situation. Did the prices in fact go up at some point, and if so why?

Yes the prices went up several months ago. As to why, either because they can or because the cost/price ratio was out of whack from Paradigm's perspective. Usually manufacturers don't explain their pricing strategies . . .

Any thoughts on pairing a C1 v2 with the Studio 20 v5's? I know the tweeters are different. I don't have room for the larger 490/590/690 as I only have 7" clearance for height.

Any thoughts on pairing a C1 v2 with the Studio 20 v5's? I know the tweeters are different. I don't have room for the larger 490/590/690 as I only have 7" clearance for height.

SE Center maybe? I believe they share the same tweeter and if I recall correctly it's 7" in height.

Question regarding MSRP for the Studio 10. I've been under the impression based on my research that they were $798, and was even told that by a sales guy at my dealer a few weeks ago during my first audition. I then went back yesterday to buy and was told by a second sales guy that retail was $898 (not $798).

I left without buying, but then emailed the first sales guy for clarification. He confirmed that retail is in fact $898 and that "we got a price increase from Paradigm". He said he'd honor the discounted price he'd originally given me of ~$700, but I''m a little perplexed by the whole situation. Did the prices in fact go up at some point, and if so why?The Studio 10's went to $898/pair on April 1, 2010.

Any thoughts on pairing a C1 v2 with the Studio 20 v5's? I know the tweeters are different. I don't have room for the larger 490/590/690 as I only have 7" clearance for height.I second the recommendation for the SE Center in your case. The SE series is very close in sound to the Studio series.

SE Center maybe? I believe they share the same tweeter and if I recall correctly it's 7" in height.

Yeah, that's an idea. I wasn't a huge fan of the SE's when I auditioned them, but I actually didn't hear the center. And it wasn't that they didn't perform, they were just being compared to the studios at the time which is a bit unfair.

You can get Paradigm speakers from Mostly Digital in Canada. Ask for Bill Brady email: bill.brady@mostlydigital.ca he has 35+ years experience and is a great source for Paradigm information, having sold this brand since they opened in Canada. they also sell Anthem receivers too!

Any thoughts on pairing a C1 v2 with the Studio 20 v5's? I know the tweeters are different. I don't have room for the larger 490/590/690 as I only have 7" clearance for height.


Get the C1, its a better center - more articulate and composed with the improved drivers, and better dispersion and clarity with the Be tweet..

They are voiced similar and will blend just fine....

Get the C1, its a better center - more articulate and composed with the improved drivers, and better dispersion and clarity with the Be tweet..

They are voiced similar and will blend just fine.... So it simultaneously sounds much better and sounds the same? How does that work?

Get the C1, its a better center - more articulate and composed with the improved drivers, and better dispersion and clarity with the Be tweet..

They are voiced similar and will blend just fine....


So it simultaneously sounds much better and sounds the same? How does that work?

"Similar" and "the same" are not synonyms.

South Africans and Ausrailans have a similar accent. They do not sound the same.

American English and British English are similar yet they are not the same.

Read and Read are similar, but they are not the same (one is future tense and the other is past tense).

"Similar" and "the same" are not synonyms.

South Africans and Ausrailans have a similar accent. They do not sound the same.

American English and British English are similar yet they are not the same.

Read and Read are similar, but they are not the same (one is future tense and the other is past tense). In that regard all speakers should sound "similar", because they intend to reproduce reality. Exceptions might be changing whole design (mono-pole to omni-pole).

If there is a distinct difference (which you've claimed when arguing that the C1 was better), then that difference will manifest in front integration.

We really expect our front sound-stage to blend, and having something change sound as it traverses across our front view can be a problem (one we seem to be far more accepting of when it traverses front-to-back).

So it simultaneously sounds much better and sounds the same? How does that work?

The speakers are voiced very closely - found this out when I was waiting for my C5, still running the 690 with my S8's but I guess I have no idea what I'm talking about, thanks for pointing that out for me Jerry.

Plus any plans to upgrade to a set of S2's down the road will already be in place.

The speakers are voiced very closely - found this out when I was waiting for my C5, still running the 690 with my S8's but I guess I have no idea what I'm talking about, thanks for pointing that out for me Jerry. So the center was more clear than (say) the right speaker; but the person walking from the center to right stage sonically didn't change clarity?

I'm sorry Warp. I've got great respect for you: but your statement just makes no logical sense. How can a given sound moving from center to right lose dispersion, lose clarity, and lose articulation and still be considered "integrated"?

What is your budget and room size? Choosing the right sub is all about pressurizing your room and getting proper placement. Depending on your answers, HSU research has all kinds of great budget subs for all kinds of different rooms.

I was hoping to keep the sub under $500 for now. The room is relatively small at 12x15 with a low ceiling (under 1,400 cu.ft.). Being in Canada, the HSU gets a little pricey with shipping, taxes and duty added on, but they certainly look impressive on paper and get good reviews. I found out that I can get the Paradigm PDR-10 for under $400. Then maybe I can upgrade to an UltraCude or one of the HSU later.

So the center was more clear than (say) the right speaker; but the person walking from the center to right stage sonically didn't change clarity?

I'm sorry Warp. I've got great respect for you: but your statement just makes no logical sense. How can a given sound moving from center to right lose dispersion, lose clarity, and lose articulation and still be considered "integrated"?


Your putting words in my mouth.... I never said that there was a loss of dispersion moving from right to left... or vice versa - you did...

The Sig line offers better build quality in drivers and in my experience offered slightly better articulation, better highs and midrange SQ as well as slightly better room dispersion and power handling - The Sigs are a cleaner sounding product in comparison - is it a huge difference, no - do they sound similar to the studio's ? to me yes... close enough to make a viable solution - IMO yes....

He asked a direct question, and I gave him my input - "will the C1 work with the 20's" YES = you really don't have to nit pick every little thing apart just to make an argument. I think my response was pretty clear.

Your putting words in my mouth.... I never said that there was a loss of dispersion moving from right to left... or vice versa - you did... No, I did not. I said "from center to right".

You said that the Signature offered "better dispersion and clarity" than the Studio.

The person to whom you are responding has Studio Left and Right speakers.

You recommended putting a Signature (better dispersion) in the center of a setup that already has studios (worse dispersion) in place.

So the right speaker = Studio 20v5 = worse dispersion
The center speaker = Signature C1 = better dispersion

When we watch a movie, sounds will traverse from the center to the right, and from the right to the center.

Given that the center (Signature) will be "more articulate and composed" with "better dispersion and clarity" ; the sound moving from center to right will loose dispersion, clarity, articulation, and composure.

I don't see how it's possible for something to loose all that and still integrate well. That may make this an excellent learning opportunity and I really hope I can get a technical answer from you rather than an argumentative one.

He asked a direct question, and I gave him my input - "will the C1 work with the 20's" YES = you really don't have to nit pick every little thing apart just to make an argument. I think my response was pretty clear. Either I don't understand it or it makes no sense. I've elaborated on *how* it makes no sense. You have not offered any clarification other than accusing me of picking an argument.

I'd be willing to accept that there is some aspect of audio integration I am misunderstanding: but so far you have not responded on that line.

Either I don't understand it or it makes no sense. I've elaborated on *how* it makes no sense. You have not offered any clarification other than accusing me of picking an argument.

I'd be willing to accept that there is some aspect of audio integration I am misunderstanding: but so far you have not responded on that line.


I agree with you that you shouldn't miss match the front 3, my issue is geared more towards different manufactures have a different sound or sonic signature, I have had such mismatched front 3 before.

My elaboration came in the terms spelling out my trials with my own equipment experience.... mixing and matching studio's and Sigs... which offer a "SIMILAR" voicing from the same manufacturer.

I was hoping to keep the sub under $500 for now. The room is relatively small at 12x15 with a low ceiling (under 1,400 cu.ft.). Being in Canada, the HSU gets a little pricey with shipping, taxes and duty added on, but they certainly look impressive on paper and get good reviews. I found out that I can get the Paradigm PDR-10 for under $400. Then maybe I can upgrade to an UltraCude or one of the HSU later.

At 1400 cu feet, you don't need much. I LOVE paradigm, but that pdr-10 won't hold a candle to say the HSU STf-1 which is on sale for $254 us right now. Are the duties and shipping that severe?

I agree with you that you shouldn't miss match the front 3, my issue is geared more towards different manufactures have a different sound or sonic signature, I have had such mismatched front 3 before.

My elaboration came in the terms spelling out my trials with my own equipment experience.... mixing and matching studio's and Sigs... which offer a "SIMILAR" voicing from the same manufacturer.

Wow, I started a heated debate! I guess the real question is which speaker - the c1 v2 or SE center would draw less attention go it. I could make a shelf for a 490 or 590 above the flatscreen, but it would look really stupid. This is for my bedroom setup as I have a v2 set for my living room for all 5 speakers.

FWIW, the Be tweeter is cleaner then the aluminum dome of the Studio's, better room dispersion is a product of on and off axis measurements and how the sound is spread around the room. The Sigs tweeters mids and woofers offer less distortion (articulation) through their more extensive and precise build quality and better quality materials. This is not a declaration suggesting they will sound different, just perform better - and measure better....

In general - if 2 different speakers measure the same, they will be extremely close in sound signature... A rolling off in the highs, or a dip in the midrange will become evident in the way it sounds to the listener, but again you can measure all the speakers in a perfect room (anechoic chamber) and then put it a room with floors, walls, furniture and what have you - it will not measure the same, nor will it sound the same. Which is exactly the reason all the room correction companies - the likes of Anthem / ARC, and Audyssey are helping to help correct these room implemented anomalies (which kill the end response) with software algorithms and hardware implementation for a better EQ measurement response.

Spiff - Will you notice a difference panning from studio's to sigs, I guess its something one can try to see if there's a difference..... If you already have Sig's .v2 in the other room, why not give it a shot to see how it sounds matching them up and decide for your self... The end response will be how hard you drive them and how well your room treats your sound altogether....

At 1400 cu feet, you don't need much. I LOVE paradigm, but that pdr-10 won't hold a candle to say the HSU STf-1 which is on sale for $254 us right now. Are the duties and shipping that severe?

Yeah, it can add up quick.
Exchange makes it 260, add shipping of at least 60 duty and brokerage of more for sure.
The PDR10 is about 400. So it looks like a tough sell. Assuming the HSU is better, it might be worth it. Add in dealing with issues in a non-local sense, and it's a personal preference.
I would personally skip the sub until you can afford a better one. Upgrading is not cheap versus buying once.

So the stereo pair of mirage subs get a signal that suits their performance.
I do realize the studio 100's are not up to sub12 standards.
I'm not familiar with the mrx700, so I was just hoping it was past the small/large Japanese settings, and that ARC would elicit the best performance out of the system using the response of the front 100/150 combo. I would think that the 150's would be great with the 100's crossed at 40hz, maybe 60. This would hopefully allow the sub12's to handle the really low stuff off of the fronts, and give me 3 7", and 2 8" articulate bass drivers for music.

How do you plan to set up the bi amp?

FWIW, the Be tweeter is cleaner then the aluminum dome of the Studio's, better room dispersion is a product of on and off axis measurements and how the sound is spread around the room.

I don't own any Studio series speakers, but I have a pair of SE1s, which use the same drivers as the Studio series. When comparing them to my Signature series speakers (S8v2s in my 2-channel setup, W5s in my 7.1 theatre), I notice the following:

-Listening at moderate volumes while sitting in the "sweet spot", they sound very similar
-The Sigs come alive at loud volumes, while the SE1s can struggle (distort) a bit at the same volume
-The Sigs sound just as accurate when listening anywhere in the room, whereas the SE1s are much more sensitive to listening position
-I won't comment on bass response, because you can't compare a compact bookshelf to massive floorstanders or on-walls+a sub

Within the same system, you would probably only notice the difference between the Sigs and the Studios at absurd volumes and/or way off axis.

I saw a guy on CAM that had studio 100's with sig drivers. Is this very expensive? Will the dealer just sell you drivers?
Also, you can buy 100's in singles, right?

I saw a guy on CAM that had studio 100's with sig drivers. Is this very expensive? Will the dealer just sell you drivers?
Also, you can buy 100's in singles, right?

As of about a year ago they would only sell single speakers that came with piano black finish. I now have a W5 setup, I wanted matched L/C/R and could not find a single 100 v3 to match what I had.

Given the difference in enclosures it is hard to believe that even if you had the Sig drivers and crossovers that putting them in 100 v? cabinets would yield good results.

As of about a year ago they would only sell single speakers that came with piano black finish. I now have a W5 setup, I wanted matched L/C/R and could not find a single 100 v3 to match what I had.If your dealer told you that he couldn't get you a single Studio 100, he was lying. Any speaker boxed as a single can be ordered from Paradigm as a single at no extra cost.

If your dealer told you that he couldn't get you a single Studio 100, he was lying. Any speaker boxed as a single can be ordered from Paradigm as a single at no extra cost.

Ok, great. I have the space to do a matched LCR set-up like I've always thought to be best. That, and all the centers have a different driver array, and cost no less for the compromise in sound.
I'm gonna save for a single 100 then.
This waiting is killing me. My old system is selling quicker than I thought. Might end up watching/listening to just the TV!
I'm assuming having no stock is somewhat common given Paradigm's proximity and in-country shipping?
Anybody recently wait longer than quoted on Studio or Anthem stuff?

As of about a year ago they would only sell single speakers that came with piano black finish. I now have a W5 setup, I wanted matched L/C/R and could not find a single 100 v3 to match what I had.

Given the difference in enclosures it is hard to believe that even if you had the Sig drivers and crossovers that putting them in 100 v? cabinets would yield good results.

Yeah, I heard something like that in another place/thread. Sounds like upsell tactics.

As for the drivers, I was just curious as I had never heard of that. These were v4's listed I think. That said, the Be tweeters are suppose to be nice. I'm always thinking about mods. I don't even have the 100's in my house yet, and I'm asking mod questions...it's the car guy in me. My wife would likely kill me in my sleep. She thinks the current system is fine. Ha!

If your dealer told you that he couldn't get you a single Studio 100, he was lying. Any speaker boxed as a single can be ordered from Paradigm as a single at no extra cost.

I talked to a product manager in mother Canada 12 - 18 moths ago. Only way they did singles was in piano black at the time. I have heard of individual Dealers that have accommodated customers this way but it was not because it is an OEM practice, just the luck of a single being available in the chain. I got names and called trying to find a route to what I wanted.

I was originally trying for S6's or Studio 100's to put behind my AT screen, they (Paradigm) would not deal in shipping damaged units or anything that I could think of. Things may be different now but a Paradigm product manager turned down my money because they would not sell a single at the time that I wanted. Perhaps the product mix or policy has changed since then.

Yeah, I heard something like that in another place/thread. Sounds like upsell tactics.

As for the drivers, I was just curious as I had never heard of that. These were v4's listed I think. That said, the Be tweeters are suppose to be nice. I'm always thinking about mods. I don't even have the 100's in my house yet, and I'm asking mod questions...it's the car guy in me. My wife would likely kill me in my sleep. She thinks the current system is fine. Ha!

The lore in this thread is that for the finished wood the cabinets come from the same "lot" of wood so that the color and grain match across the speakers in a set. That is why the piano black is the exception, matching is not an issue as long as they mix and finish consistently.

You mentioned earlier that you were going to bi-amp using a MRX-700 and an HK amp. Are you going to use the MRX for the fronts and the HK for the surround? If you are thinking to use the MRX for the tweeter and the HK for the woofer then unless the sensitivity (I am sure someone will correct that word) of the two are the same you may not have the same volume balance between the mid/tweeter and bass at low and loud levels.

You also asked about the crossovers. ARC does pick a crossover point, but it does so based on you actual in room response. I have 3 identical speakers across the front and it crosses over my center differently. Other than just the crossover points it looks at your room/speaker response up to 5 khz and attempts to idealize what you hear. I have been running a D1 for years and when they added the ARC to it the difference was very pleasing. Once you get the rig setup make sure go visit the MRX forum and post your ARC charts and ask for feedback. Also if you have never done the sub crawl you should consider it. Congratulations on some good gear about to arrive!

Hmmm, never thought much about the bi-amping being an issue. I have my CC bi-amped in this fashion right now, and I didn't notice anything off.
I have done the crawl. This new house hasn't got much love audio-wise, so I'm going to do it all again when the new stuff arrives. In the old house I spent weeks tweaking placement,etc of the whole system. It was well worth it.
Thanks for all the insight and tips. I'm reading the mrx thread page by page daily. I'll be sure to post pics and graphs for sure.

In that regard all speakers should sound "similar", because they intend to reproduce reality.

No. You messed up with the meaning of the word similar and now you are trying to obfuscate the issue to prevent having to say you are wrong.

Another real world example to clearly show you why your last statement is silly:

A man from Rhodesia does not sound similar to a man from Australia. This is what you are claiming. You claim that, since they both speak a human language they must sound similar. This is obviously wrong.

If a maker matches the tibre of their speakers then their speakers will all sound similar. Makers do this so that their speakers will have a similar characteristic quality of a sound, independent of pitch and loudness. They will not all be the same in sound, which is obvious to everyone but those who claim similar and the same have identical meanings.

Just man up and say you were wrong, that they can sound similar without having to sound the same. Clinging to being wrong when shown otherwise just makes you look foolish.

Ok, great. I have the space to do a matched LCR set-up like I've always thought to be best. That, and all the centers have a different driver array, and cost no less for the compromise in sound.
I'm gonna save for a single 100 then.
This waiting is killing me. My old system is selling quicker than I thought. Might end up watching/listening to just the TV!
I'm assuming having no stock is somewhat common given Paradigm's proximity and in-country shipping?
Anybody recently wait longer than quoted on Studio or Anthem stuff?

I ordered my Sub 12 (Rosenut) back in October and it took 2 days for it to arrive at the dealer. The proximity to the factory more than likely helped with the speedy delivery.

Alright. The dealer said about 10 days. Sounds right if you got yours in 2.
Thanks. 2011 is going to start on a positive note.
Did surprise me a bit that they had no stock.
I like going home with stuff. Never ordered anything before.

I talked to a product manager in mother Canada 12 - 18 moths ago. Only way they did singles was in piano black at the time. I have heard of individual Dealers that have accommodated customers this way but it was not because it is an OEM practice, just the luck of a single being available in the chain. I got names and called trying to find a route to what I wanted.

I was originally trying for S6's or Studio 100's to put behind my AT screen, they (Paradigm) would not deal in shipping damaged units or anything that I could think of. Things may be different now but a Paradigm product manager turned down my money because they would not sell a single at the time that I wanted. Perhaps the product mix or policy has changed since then.I worked for a Paradigm dealer for 2 years, and I can assure you that what I said is true. The only time when anything "special" has to be done to get a single is for speakers that are boxed as pairs, e.g. Studio 10's, Signature S1's, Mini Monitors, etc. But even in those cases, Paradigm allows, as outlined on the back page of the Dealer Price List, a single to be ordered for a $10 extra charge, plus shipping (since it is handled by the Parts Department and cannot be sent with a normal Paradigm shippment). They refer to this as a "Master Carton Split Fee", and any dealer that gives anyone a hard time about it just doesn't want to make the extra phone calls to make it happen. Here is the actual quote from the Dealer Price List:

"Orders for partial master pack quantities are gladly accepted for all products other than Speaker Stands, Mounting Brackets and Banana Plugs. A $10 Master Carton Split Fee will be assessed for each product ordered in non-Master Carton quantities."

This has been their policy since at least January 2009.

I worked for a Paradigm dealer for 2 years, and I can assure you that what I said is true. The only time when anything "special" has to be done to get a single is for speakers that are boxed as pairs, e.g. Studio 10's, Signature S1's, Mini Monitors, etc. But even in those cases, Paradigm allows, as outlined on the back page of the Dealer Price List, a single to be ordered for a $10 extra charge, plus shipping (since it is handled by the Parts Department and cannot be sent with a normal Paradigm shippment). They refer to this as a "Master Carton Split Fee", and any dealer that gives anyone a hard time about it just doesn't want to make the extra phone calls to make it happen. Here is the actual quote from the Dealer Price List:

"Orders for partial master pack quantities are gladly accepted for all products other than Speaker Stands, Mounting Brackets and Banana Plugs. A $10 Master Carton Split Fee will be assessed for each product ordered in non-Master Carton quantities."

This has been their policy since at least January 2009.

Thank you so much for this valuable post, I can't tell you how many people have complained about a dealer saying they don't come in singles..... Now we have the ammo here on the forum, and people can use that info to stuff in the dealers face !!! Just downright lazy, and this is how they earn your business....

can anyone who owns the studio 10's v.5 comment on what you compared them to before you bought them ?

I'm curious because I am looking for some monitors for music but also for a ht setup. I want to stay at the 1k price range or under.

Thanks

Thank you so much for this valuable post, I can't tell you how many people have complained about a dealer saying they don't come in singles..... Now we have the ammo here on the forum, and people can use that info to stuff in the dealers face !!! Just downright lazy, and this is how they earn your business....You're welcome. :)

can anyone who owns the studio 10's v.5 comment on what you compared them to before you bought them ?

I'm curious because I am looking for some monitors for music but also for a ht setup. I want to stay at the 1k price range or under.

ThanksI had listened to B&W CM1's prior to getting Studio 10's, but not in the same store. I'd say if you have the chance, the CM1's are worth a listen, but to me the 10's just sounded better: better bass, clearer highs. Midrange was about the same between the two. IMO, they sound different enough that some people may prefer the "B&W" sound over the "Paradigm" sound.

Also, if I were starting over today, I would be curious to listen to a pair of Monitor Audio RX1's and PSB Imagine B's. But at this point I don't have any second thoughts about going with the Studio 10's.

Are there anyone with experience with both these speakers consider this move an upgrade? I would have to shell out an additional $1k for it. I remember reading in the past the studio 100 v4 is very similar to the 850s. My 850s is working great but I always wanted to try the paradigm. Please spare any conversation regarding av123 business practice, their quality control, etc. My 850s is just like new, pristine looking and very easy on the eye, sound great so that's not an issue for me. I'm just more concern with the sound quality improvement.

You're welcome. :)

I agree, thanks!

Are there anyone with experience with both these speakers consider this move an upgrade? I would have to shell out an additional $1k for it. I remember reading in the past the studio 100 v4 is very similar to the 850s. My 850s is working great but I always wanted to try the paradigm. Please spare any conversation regarding av123 business practice, their quality control, etc. My 850s is just like new, pristine looking and very easy on the eye, sound great so that's not an issue for me. I'm just more concern with the sound quality improvement.


We did an A/B shootout at the one of my GTG's and they were both very close, with the edge going to the Studio 100's in both my opinion and the owners opinion, of which if you've been on this forum long enough you would have seen Nuances name, who has upgraded to the crystaline clarity of the RT songtowers.... and I moved up to the Sig S8's...

I'm thinkin it would be more of a sideways move, and not necessarily a huge upgrade... I was very impressed with how close to the Studio 100's the 850's were.... I was also surprised on how nice the finish on the 850's were, the pictures just don't do them justice.... very surprising to me...

Anywho, thats my take on it.... your call...

We did an A/B shootout at the one of my GTG's and they were both very close, with the edge going to the Studio 100's in both my opinion and the owners opinion, of which if you've been on this forum long enough you would have seen Nuances name, who has upgraded to the crystaline clarity of the RT songtowers.... and I moved up to the Sig S8's...

I'm thinkin it would be more of a sideways move, and not necessarily a huge upgrade... I was very impressed with how close to the Studio 100's the 850's were.... I was also surprised on how nice the finish on the 850's were, the pictures just don't do them justice.... very surprising to me...

Anywho, thats my take on it.... your call...


Thanks for the input. I guess I will have to save up for the sig..

Just to be clear-av 123 is out of business - do your homework before even thinkin of buying from that scam artist. He's currently in jail for his actions.

I'd take paradigm Amy day of the week no matter what the price is over the 850's

Just to be clear-av 123 is out of business - do your homework before even thinkin of buying from that scam artist. He's currently in jail for his actions.

I'd take paradigm Amy day of the week no matter what the price is over the 850's

I guess I wasn't clear earlier. I already own the 850s prior to their downfall. I'm just curious if upgrading to the latest studio 100 is worth the $1000-$1200 or if it will be more of a sideway move. If it is the latter, maybe I'll just save up for the paradigm signature series but who know how long that'll take

Just wanted to say hi, been reading this thread for a year and saving up for a new Paradigm 5.1 system, and finally picked up a set of MON7v6/CC290/ADP190/DSP3100 on Boxing Day, and enjoying it already!

Thanks all for all your valuable info.

Not sure if I can get a better sub for the money, but I'm trying it for now.

The Paradigm Sigs are def an upgrade from both of those choices. The 850's and studios are very similar. The Sigs S6's and S8's are quite a step up in performance.

can anyone comment on the milleniaone 5.0 setup? too new for online reviews.Here is the only review I know of:

http://www.soundstagexperience.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=119:paradigm-reference-millenia-one-seismic-110-home-theater-speaker-system&catid=38:equipment&Itemid=2

Just wanted to pop in and thank those mentioning the 6th ave deals a few pages back.

I came here a bit over a year ago, and ended up with a complete system replacement/upgrade, that included two 100's and a cc590.
I was wishing to take that 590 to a 690, but didn't have the disposable income to do it, but for a grand even, I jumped at that offer.

The web page said they were out, but a call found "the last one" on a secondary inventory search, And I'm glad to have gotten it.

I just finished up buiding another riser stand so that I can get the tv over the speaker, and once I hit submit I'll be swapping them over.

Nothing left but to enjoy the difference, and to put the 590 up for sale.

Looking at picking up a pair of Studio 10's this weekend, but am I crazy to use them in a large-ish room? My room is about 23' long and 15' wide; the speakers will be placed near the front of the room, and my seating position is about 11' away from where the speakers will be placed (leaving ~9' of room behind me).

I'll use them for both HT and 2-ch music (about 60/40), and they'll be paired with a Hsu STF-2 sub. I listen loud, but not crazy loud -- maybe 90dB at the most? I've got an Adcom GFA-6000 amp pushing 100W into the fronts so power shouldn't be an issue. I'm just wondering if the Studio 10's will start to compress or sound "small" at higher volumes. Can anyone comment on how they might sound in a big room? I'm going to audition them in my home this weekend before I buy so I'll find out soon enough, but just curious what others have found....

I'm sure some may recommend going with Studio 20's or even a set of towers, but from what I've seen those options are way above my ~$750 budget. :)

I was wishing to take that 590 to a 690, but didn't have the disposable income to do it, but for a grand even, I jumped at that offer.

[snip]

Nothing left but to enjoy the difference, and to put the 590 up for sale.

Please let us know if you find the 690 a major upgrade from your 590. I'm curious to know.

was going to put this in as an edit, but I'll keep continuity.


Edit, job done, before and after pics up.

Put in Rush R30 on the oppo,and, Holy o'cow, the sound has me kicking my own ass for not just getting the 690 in the 1st place.
Bonus: the tv sits a tad lower.

Nothing left but to enjoy the difference, and to put the 590 up for sale.

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=24604

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=24605

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=24606

Judging from the Celtics poster, the height of the turntable and everything else you must be really tall.

Judging from the Celtics poster, the height of the turntable and everything else you must be really tall.


5' 11'' if I try really hard, at 48 gravity is starting to win out.

The tv has my with only a slight glance up, much less than in a theatre.
The outlaw 7200 amp on the right never needs to be touched, but I wish that technics tt was lower that it is.
Compromises needed to be made, and I just have to go with it.

Oh well, it's a day off for me, and I know a place with cold beer and a fairly. new pool table that's calling me.

Take care.

Edit: I'm more of a patriots guy, that celtics banner is the sons'.

Nothing left but to enjoy the difference, and to put the 590 up for sale.


How much for your 590? :)

I’m looking at getting some new speaker stands for my Studio 20s. Has anybody used either of these stands?
23" Plateau (http://www.racksandstands.com/Plateau-ST-23-B-PT0174.html)

24" VTI (http://www.dynamichomedecor.com/VTI-DF-STANDS.html)
I can't afford the paradigm stands but I need another set of speaker stands. I’m using plant stands right now which I like but would like to try some "real" stands out.

I’m looking at getting some new speaker stands for my Studio 20s. Has anybody used either of these stands?
23" Plateau (http://www.racksandstands.com/Plateau-ST-23-B-PT0174.html)

24" VTI (http://www.dynamichomedecor.com/VTI-DF-STANDS.html)
I can't afford the paradigm stands but I need another set of speaker stands. I’m using plant stands right now which I like but would like to try some "real" stands out.


I just bought a set of 29" VTI DF stands in anticipation of buying Studio 10's. Haven't tried them with speakers yet, but I like the quality of the stand. What sold me was the parabolic base -- it matches the Studio's nicely and looks a lot like Paradigm's J-stands.

One note -- my set came missing one of the spikes. I emailed VTI and they immediately replied saying they'd be mailing a spike out right away. Great customer service.

was going to put this in as an edit, but I'll keep continuity.


Edit, job done, before and after pics up.

Put in Rush R30 on the oppo,and, Holy o'cow, the sound has me kicking my own ass for not just getting the 690 in the 1st place.
Bonus: the tv sits a tad lower.

Nothing left but to enjoy the difference, and to put the 590 up for sale.

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=24604

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=24605

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=24606

I am planning on something similiar. Is that 3/4 wood? How are the sides attached to the top?

I just bought a set of 29" VTI DF stands in anticipation of buying Studio 10's. Haven't tried them with speakers yet, but I like the quality of the stand. What sold me was the parabolic base -- it matches the Studio's nicely and looks a lot like Paradigm's J-stands.

One note -- my set came missing one of the spikes. I emailed VTI and they immediately replied saying they'd be mailing a spike out right away. Great customer service.

It was hard to tell what they look like from the picture but if you think they look good in person that makes me feel better. I did think the shape was very similar to the paradigm stands and that was one thing I liked about them. I think I will go ahead and order them. Thanks for the help.

EDIT: They will be here in 5 to 7 business days.

Looking at picking up a pair of Studio 10's this weekend, but am I crazy to use them in a large-ish room? My room is about 23' long and 15' wide; the speakers will be placed near the front of the room, and my seating position is about 11' away from where the speakers will be placed (leaving ~9' of room behind me).

I'll use them for both HT and 2-ch music (about 60/40), and they'll be paired with a Hsu STF-2 sub. I listen loud, but not crazy loud -- maybe 90dB at the most? I've got an Adcom GFA-6000 amp pushing 100W into the fronts so power shouldn't be an issue. I'm just wondering if the Studio 10's will start to compress or sound "small" at higher volumes. Can anyone comment on how they might sound in a big room? I'm going to audition them in my home this weekend before I buy so I'll find out soon enough, but just curious what others have found....

I'm sure some may recommend going with Studio 20's or even a set of towers, but from what I've seen those options are way above my ~$750 budget. :)

Anyone? Attached is a pic of my room -- the 10's will go where the un-socked Vandersteens currently are. :)

It was hard to tell what they look like from the picture but if you think they look good in person that makes me feel better. I did think the shape was very similar to the paradigm stands and that was one thing I liked about them. I think I will go ahead and order them. Thanks for the help.

Thanks for the heads up on the VTI stands. For those in Canada, I did a quick search and Cymax has them here (http://www.cymaxstores.ca/Common/NewSearch/Search.aspx?page=GRID&free_text|1293754200139=VTI%20speaker%20stamds&ref=/Common/Product/CatProduct.aspx) in various styles (located in BC?). The 29" DF Black come in at $163+tax Cdn and they advertise free shipping. I added them to a cart to get a final figure with tax, and the shipping was 0, plus they added HST to ON. I'm going to check with my local dealer to see if they can get them, otherwise I'll probably order on-line and see how they are.

If you're in the U.S., Sears (of all places) and RacksAndStands have the same stands for $125 US, also with free shipping (for the 29" -- other sizes available). VTI also makes a matching centre stand. RacksAndStands will ship them to Canada for $174 US, vs $184 Cdn total with Cymax, so not a huge difference.

Here is what I did:

http://i113.photobucket.com/albums/n205/cybrsage/P1000653.jpg

Granted, it is a different speaker, but the concept is the same.

I bought two shelving tracks you screw onto the wall, two shlving triangle brackets, and a black board shelf. I screwed the tracks onto the holes used to mount the TV to the wall.

Since the screw holes are designed to hold the weight of the TV, it can easily hold the speaker...provided you keep it well front to avoid the pressure caused by the cantilever effect.

Gets the speaker out of the way and looks nice too. :)

Got my Studio 60's and 690. I quickly checked to see if there was any damage to any of the speakers since others have posted they've been receiving them from 6ave that way. Fortunately no damage everything was in order. Hooked them up and immediately got an echo effect. Started to make adjustments via my Emotiva UMC-1 but, it's making a crackling noise in the left channel. So, I won't be able to test them out till that's fixed.

It was hard to tell what they look like from the picture but if you think they look good in person that makes me feel better. I did think the shape was very similar to the paradigm stands and that was one thing I liked about them. I think I will go ahead and order them. Thanks for the help.

EDIT: They will be here in 5 to 7 business days.

Wow, you made up your mind quickly! I like the Plateaus myself. I fill them up with small pebbles and they are super sturdy.

Hey everyone,

I'm working on putting my new home theater setup together. Nothing hooked up yet, I'm still saving money for my sub. Anyways, I really need help and advice on where to place my surrounds,"paradigm adp390". The problem is that my current living room where my system is, is not real ideal and there are no side walls to mount them to. Now I can't remember if these are "dipole" or "bipole", but I've always heard that people recommend placing them on a wall at 90 degrees from the listening position. But I don't really have that option. I included a couple pics, to show both sides of the back of my room and see what you suggest. My first thought was to buy some "corner" shelves and place them on the wall in the corner, but I don't know if it will work with these speakers, since they are 3 sided and would probably have sound hitting the wall at a weird angle. Please please anyone help if you can.

Hey everyone,

I'm working on putting my new home theater setup together. Nothing hooked up yet, I'm still saving money for my sub. Anyways, I really need help and advice on where to place my surrounds,"paradigm adp390". The problem is that my current living room where my system is, is not real ideal and there are no side walls to mount them to. Now I can't remember if these are "dipole" or "bipole", but I've always heard that people recommend placing them on a wall at 90 degrees from the listening position. But I don't really have that option. I included a couple pics, to show both sides of the back of my room and see what you suggest. My first thought was to buy some "corner" shelves and place them on the wall in the corner, but I don't know if it will work with these speakers, since they are 3 sided and would probably have sound hitting the wall at a weird angle. Please please anyone help if you can.

I have the ADP-390s and it took me several tries to find the proper placement for them. Putting them in the corners at an angle does not work. Putting them on the back wall does not work. What worked was putting them on bar stools on the sides, about 17 inches from the back wall, with the middle woofers facing toward each other. My listening area is wider than it is long, and I was able to place them more than 4 ft away from the closest sitting position. Any closer and I find some of the effects too directional. The biggest improvement, however, was when I pulled the ADPs farther away from the back wall from ~6" to where they are now at ~17".

Wow, you made up your mind quickly! I like the Plateaus myself. I fill them up with small pebbles and they are super sturdy.

Yea, I was ready to buy something I just wanted to get some assurance that those were quality stands. Nothing is worse than ordering some online and them coming in and looking cheap and plastic. I like the Plateaus also because 23 inches would bring the tweeter a little closer to ear height. I just need them asap so I jumped when I saw a good review of the VTIs. Ill be sure to post pics when they come in.

Anyone? Attached is a pic of my room -- the 10's will go where the un-socked Vandersteens currently are. :)I have Studio 10's, and they get loud enough for me, even when I occasionally run them full-range. Ultimately, you'll have to decide if they get loud enough for you, and your in-home demo should answer that question for you.

Small set ups that i will be upgrading very soon, i'm moving from my 2 bedroom apartment to a new house that will allow me to have a dedicated home theater. I will of course stick with paradigm and get signature series, cant express enough how much i love paradigm , i own their small 5.1 ct setup , studio series 5.1 and my bedroom stereo setup with signature series . For the future set up i plan on buying an hd 1080p projector most likely from Epson and a 5.1 all paradigm signature series speakers.

Living room setup 5.1 Bought this when i was 21 years old now 23 before this setup i was happy with regular computer speakers and thought the world of them until my friend decided to take me to a paradigm dealer where i heard the studio 100s

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/P1000400.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG00053.jpg
Sony 46inch xbr4 , paradigm studio 100v4, paradigm studio 20v5, paradigm studio 690v4, paradigm sub 15, fat playstion 3 160gig, shaw motorola pvr 160gig, toshiba hd dvd player, denon receiver.


Guest bedroom setup

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2664.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2666.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2659.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2656.jpg
Sony playstation 3 slim 250gig

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2655.jpg
Paradigm Cinema ct70 5.1

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2653.jpg
2nd Sony kdl 46 xbr4

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2650.jpg

Bedroom set up 2.0 to be 5.1 all signature setup in future

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2627.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2624.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2618.jpg
Playstation 3 slim 320gig


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2608.jpg
paradigm signature series s2 v3


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2604.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2592.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2593.jpg

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2611.jpg
60inch pioneer elite kuro pro 151fd


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2634.jpg
sony 37inch xbr6 using as computer monitor , still looking for a computer desk.


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/IMG_2633.jpg

LOVE PARADIGM

Yea, I was ready to buy something I just wanted to get some assurance that those were quality stands. Nothing is worse than ordering some online and them coming in and looking cheap and plastic. I like the Plateaus also because 23 inches would bring the tweeter a little closer to ear height. I just need them asap so I jumped when I saw a good review of the VTIs. Ill be sure to post pics when they come in.

A couple pics of mine with a crappy old Cerwin Vega center speaker placed on top for reference. :)

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/pg_rider/photo12.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/pg_rider/photo11.jpg

How much for your 590? :)

$775, in country shipping only.

I am planning on something similiar. Is that 3/4 wood? How are the sides attached to the top?


I bought it from racks and stands, currently $850, shipping included.
http://www.racksandstands.com/Home-Styles-5527-34-HO1723.html

This would cost a fortune if it was quality, but this is a more inexpensive camlock and bolt self-assembly thing.
It's chinese, and mine had various pieces with what must be worm bores/holes....but they are few,very small in diameter, and add realstic character.
I'm pleased with mine, it fits the bill for consolidating all the equipment in one area with ease of accessability, except for my nearly eye-level tt that I'd love to have lower.

I bought it from racks and stands, currently $850, shipping included.
http://www.racksandstands.com/Home-Styles-5527-34-HO1723.html

This would cost a fortune if it was quality, but this is a more inexpensive camlock and bolt self-assembly thing.
It's chinese, and mine had various pieces with what must be worm bores/holes....but they are few,very small in diameter, and add realstic character.
I'm pleased with mine, it fits the bill for consolidating all the equipment in one area with ease of accessability, except for my nearly eye-level tt that I'd love to have lower.

Thanks for the info. I have a unit from Ikea that I need to integrate my riser with. IKEA has a $25 TV Bench in the same colour that I think will work. I'll have to trim 4 inches off of the legs so it just fits over my CC590.

If you are in the market for speakers - you owe it to yourself and to your ears to consider Paradigm's!

I have not posted on here in a while and I figured I would drop a couple pictures of my Paradigm Studio’s. I have owned them now for just a tad over a year and I can say without a doubt that these things continue to sound better and better every day. I am continuously amazed at the level of clarity these babies have no matter the volume I am listening to them at.

FRONT TOWERS: STUDIO 100’s v.5
CENTER SPEAKER: CC-590 v.5
REAR TOWERS: STUDIO 60’s v.5

I cannot stress how incredible these speakers are and how much I feel I got almost more than what I paid for. My daughters friends have come over and just sat in amazement at the clarity in both music and movies these things produce. Granted it has a lot of help from the Pioneer SC-25 pushing 140w of Class D ICE Amp sound to them, but they do an incredible job at reproducing the sound the Pio is sending.

The other night I was watching “How to Train Your Dragon” on Blu Ray and there is a scene where the proud father thinks his son is some super dragon slayer and he pulls up a chair in their hut to hear him tell how he did in dragon training. Well during that scene there is wind blowing outside their hut, sounds like a storm is coming or it’s raining outside – the problem was I had to pause the movie because I seriously though it was outside my house – not in the movie.

These speakers are that freaking amazing – I mean I know most of the time if it is in a movie our outside, but at that moment it was so clear, so realistic that I seriously thought it was outside my windows. Simply amazing! I cannot say how incredible these babies are – but I had to share some pictures with you all and show them off a bit.

I got a Canon T2i for Christmas, so I had to find willing subjects to take pictures of – the Paradigms agreed………………

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/23/001usk.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4002/051xi.jpg
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/1233/053mh.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5343/055fq.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7754/067bg.jpg
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9463/070qo.jpg
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/8104/079e.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4503/084zr.jpg

I got a Canon T2i for Christmas, so I had to find willing subjects to take pictures of – the Paradigms agreed………………


Nice pictures. Did you do any post processing other than maybe resizing them for the web? Nice bokeh too.

Great pics for sure. Those are some purdy speakers. Is that black ash?

If you are in the market for speakers - you owe it to yourself and to your ears to consider Paradigm's!

I have not posted on here in a while and I figured I would drop a couple pictures of my Paradigm Studio’s. I have owned them now for just a tad over a year and I can say without a doubt that these things continue to sound better and better every day. I am continuously amazed at the level of clarity these babies have no matter the volume I am listening to them at.

FRONT TOWERS: STUDIO 100’s v.5
CENTER SPEAKER: CC-590 v.5
REAR TOWERS: STUDIO 60’s v.5

I cannot stress how incredible these speakers are and how much I feel I got almost more than what I paid for. My daughters friends have come over and just sat in amazement at the clarity in both music and movies these things produce. Granted it has a lot of help from the Pioneer SC-25 pushing 140w of Class D ICE Amp sound to them, but they do an incredible job at reproducing the sound the Pio is sending.

The other night I was watching “How to Train Your Dragon” on Blu Ray and there is a scene where the proud father thinks his son is some super dragon slayer and he pulls up a chair in their hut to hear him tell how he did in dragon training. Well during that scene there is wind blowing outside their hut, sounds like a storm is coming or it’s raining outside – the problem was I had to pause the movie because I seriously though it was outside my house – not in the movie.

These speakers are that freaking amazing – I mean I know most of the time if it is in a movie our outside, but at that moment it was so clear, so realistic that I seriously thought it was outside my windows. Simply amazing! I cannot say how incredible these babies are – but I had to share some pictures with you all and show them off a bit.

I got a Canon T2i for Christmas, so I had to find willing subjects to take pictures of – the Paradigms agreed………………

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/23/001usk.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/4002/051xi.jpg
http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/1233/053mh.jpg
http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5343/055fq.jpg
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/7754/067bg.jpg
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/9463/070qo.jpg
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/8104/079e.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4503/084zr.jpg


Hey there I was just wondering about the picture with the back of the speaker shown with the wire hookups....is it beneficial to hook up the the positive to the upper terminal and the negative to the bottom terminal with that strip in?? I have both plugged into the bottom terminal of the strip on the speakers. Thanks for any info!

Hey there I was just wondering about the picture with the back of the speaker shown with the wire hookups....is it beneficial to hook up the the positive to the upper terminal and the negative to the bottom terminal with that strip in?? I have both plugged into the bottom terminal of the strip on the speakers. Thanks for any info!

I was wondering why he did that, too. I'd be interested to hear the reasoning.

for looks.... it makes no difference either way, if you look at those gold metal straps, they will continue the connection top to bottom - with either plug...

Nice pictures. Did you do any post processing other than maybe resizing them for the web? Nice bokeh too.
A couple pictures yes I did some post processing to in Photoshop CS4 because the white balance wasn't right and they had way too much blue in them, so I toned it down. The one you can see the back with the terminal posts and the last pictures are the ones that I toned the blue out of, the rest were straight pictures and just resized. Mostly though just resizing.

Hey there I was just wondering about the picture with the back of the speaker shown with the wire hookups....is it beneficial to hook up the the positive to the upper terminal and the negative to the bottom terminal with that strip in?? I have both plugged into the bottom terminal of the strip on the speakers. Thanks for any info!
Hoestly, there was no reason to it, I just did it. As the posted above stated, it has the jumpers in, so it doesn't matter which one I plugged what into, it works the same.

Great pics for sure. Those are some purdy speakers. Is that black ash?
Yes they are the Black Ash version and I really love them - they just plan look as good as they sound - Paradigm made some incredible speakers.

PETRUS - I just wanted to say I love your sig - nice!

Studio 10's are home for their demo. Kids are napping so no chance to crank up yet, but first impression at low volume is... wow!

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/pg_rider/photo.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/pg_rider/photo2-1.jpg

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n110/pg_rider/photo1-1.jpg

Yes I'm post-whoring -- feel free to tell me to knock it off! What can I say, I'm excited about these speakers! Here's a couple quick vids, one with some woofer action playing Sade, the other with some Stevie Ray Vaughan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnepgJ59nM8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW1tOgA4DYg

Yes I'm post-whoring -- feel free to tell me to knock it off! What can I say, I'm excited about these speakers! Here's a couple quick vids, one with some woofer action playing Sade, the other with some Stevie Ray Vaughan.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnepgJ59nM8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UW1tOgA4DYg

Well...how do they sound?? how do they compare with your old speakers?

If you are in the market for speakers - you owe it to yourself and to your ears to consider Paradigm's!

I have not posted on here in a while and I figured I would drop a couple pictures of my Paradigm Studio’s. I have owned them now for just a tad over a year and I can say without a doubt that these things continue to sound better and better every day. I am continuously amazed at the level of clarity these babies have no matter the volume I am listening to them at.

FRONT TOWERS: STUDIO 100’s v.5
CENTER SPEAKER: CC-590 v.5
REAR TOWERS: STUDIO 60’s v.5

I cannot stress how incredible these speakers are and how much I feel I got almost more than what I paid for. My daughters friends have come over and just sat in amazement at the clarity in both music and movies these things produce. Granted it has a lot of help from the Pioneer SC-25 pushing 140w of Class D ICE Amp sound to them, but they do an incredible job at reproducing the sound the Pio is sending.

The other night I was watching “How to Train Your Dragon” on Blu Ray and there is a scene where the proud father thinks his son is some super dragon slayer and he pulls up a chair in their hut to hear him tell how he did in dragon training. Well during that scene there is wind blowing outside their hut, sounds like a storm is coming or it’s raining outside – the problem was I had to pause the movie because I seriously though it was outside my house – not in the movie.

These speakers are that freaking amazing – I mean I know most of the time if it is in a movie our outside, but at that moment it was so clear, so realistic that I seriously thought it was outside my windows. Simply amazing! I cannot say how incredible these babies are – but I had to share some pictures with you all and show them off a bit.

I got a Canon T2i for Christmas, so I had to find willing subjects to take pictures of – the Paradigms agreed………………

You have a very nice system. I feel the exact same way. I have v4 Studio 40s, a v4 CC590, a Sub 12, and Atoms in the rear.

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damned cats.

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damned cats.



No cats but a 2-year old.

[QUOTE=gunsanplanes;19733558]was going to put this in as an edit, but I'll keep continuity.


Edit, job done, before and after pics up.

Put in Rush R30 on the oppo,and, Holy o'cow, the sound has me kicking my own ass for not just getting the 690 in the 1st place.
Bonus: the tv sits a tad lower.

Nothing left but to enjoy the difference, and to put the 590 up for sale.

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=24605


nice setup....


what kind of wood you use ? Marine or fine wood ....

[QUOTE=hugo_2_9;19739246]Small set ups that i will be upgrading very soon, i'm moving from my 2 bedroom apartment to a new house that will allow me to have a dedicated home theater. I will of course stick with paradigm and get signature series, cant express enough how much i love paradigm , i own their small 5.1 ct setup , studio series 5.1 and my bedroom stereo setup with signature series . For the future set up i plan on buying an hd 1080p projector most likely from Epson and a 5.1 all paradigm signature series speakers.

Living room setup 5.1 Bought this when i was 21 years old now 23 before this setup i was happy with regular computer speakers and thought the world of them until my friend decided to take me to a paradigm dealer where i heard the studio 100s

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/P1000400.jpg



hi

nice setup...

need thing to ask... please

where did you get the first picture tv stand can fit a cc690...

thanks

does anyone know if the 690 is ported in the back?

Yes they are:


mbfleming

Here is a picture of my current setup to give you an idea of the 11 inch riser.

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/516/img0738j.jpg

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/8669/img0741w.jpg

Hello.

I have a pair of Paradigm Esprit v3 from the early 2000's...probably around 2002 or 2003. I think they're essentially Phantoms in a larger cabinet...not sure, really. 6.5" driver.

5 years ago I blew one of the woofers. I had it repaired at my Paradigm dealer....then...I recently blew the replacement driver (Paradigm Part #B112WF0003). I use gutsy Adcom power amps, so I must have simply overloaded the driver.

I was going to use the speakers in my new home theatre area until I could upgrade to something larger...I'll be running them behind an acoustically transparent screen. The center is a Studio CC v2.

I need to keep costs down here, and I'm not excited about buying a new L&R pair. Do I....

1. Fix the Esprit again and use them until I can afford to upgrade the L&Rs?
2. Sell the Esprits, as is, with the center, then use the $$$ to get matching L+C+R speakers (I have a dedicated sub...what's the most cost-effective option here)
3. Something else?

Let me know...

Hello.

I have a pair of Paradigm Esprit v3 from the early 2000's...probably around 2002 or 2003. I think they're essentially Phantoms in a larger cabinet...not sure, really. 6.5" driver.

5 years ago I blew one of the woofers. I had it repaired at my Paradigm dealer....then...I recently blew the replacement driver (Paradigm Part #B112WF0003). I use gutsy Adcom power amps, so I must have simply overloaded the driver.

I was going to use the speakers in my new home theatre area until I could upgrade to something larger...I'll be running them behind an acoustically transparent screen. The center is a Studio CC v2.

I need to keep costs down here, and I'm not excited about buying a new L&R pair. Do I....

1. Fix the Esprit again and use them until I can afford to upgrade the L&Rs?
2. Sell the Esprits, as is, with the center, then use the $$$ to get matching L+C+R speakers (I have a dedicated sub...what's the most cost-effective option here)
3. Something else?

Let me know...

Matching l/c/r behind an AT screen is the ticket. I would work in that direction, smaller speakers and a sub.

[QUOTE=gunsanplanes;19733558]was going to put this in as an edit, but I'll keep continuity.


Edit, job done, before and after pics up.

Put in Rush R30 on the oppo,and, Holy o'cow, the sound has me kicking my own ass for not just getting the 690 in the 1st place.
Bonus: the tv sits a tad lower.

Nothing left but to enjoy the difference, and to put the 590 up for sale.

http://media.ar15.com/media/viewFile.html?i=24605


nice setup....


what kind of wood you use ? Marine or fine wood ....

I used red oak for the 1st riser/tv stand, but this one I cheaped out on, it's run of the mill pine.

[QUOTE=hugo_2_9;19739246]Small set ups that i will be upgrading very soon, i'm moving from my 2 bedroom apartment to a new house that will allow me to have a dedicated home theater. I will of course stick with paradigm and get signature series, cant express enough how much i love paradigm , i own their small 5.1 ct setup , studio series 5.1 and my bedroom stereo setup with signature series . For the future set up i plan on buying an hd 1080p projector most likely from Epson and a 5.1 all paradigm signature series speakers.

Living room setup 5.1 Bought this when i was 21 years old now 23 before this setup i was happy with regular computer speakers and thought the world of them until my friend decided to take me to a paradigm dealer where i heard the studio 100s

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/P1000400.jpg



hi

nice setup...

need thing to ask... please

where did you get the first picture tv stand can fit a cc690...

thanks

Funny enough its just a coffe table that i stole from my parents. I was in the same boat as most cc690 owners when i bought the studios, finding a tv stand that has a compartment underneath the tv big enough to hold such big centre. It was supposed to be just a temp thing but i decided just to leave it and gave up on the searching, as most people noticed its too low to the ground, should be higher therefore i dont recommend using a coffe table, i dont use that room anymore im normally locked in my cave (bedroom) therefore i stop searching. Sorry to disappoint man.

[QUOTE=hugo_2_9;19739246]Small set ups that i will be upgrading very soon, i'm moving from my 2 bedroom apartment to a new house that will allow me to have a dedicated home theater. I will of course stick with paradigm and get signature series, cant express enough how much i love paradigm , i own their small 5.1 ct setup , studio series 5.1 and my bedroom stereo setup with signature series . For the future set up i plan on buying an hd 1080p projector most likely from Epson and a 5.1 all paradigm signature series speakers.

Living room setup 5.1 Bought this when i was 21 years old now 23 before this setup i was happy with regular computer speakers and thought the world of them until my friend decided to take me to a paradigm dealer where i heard the studio 100s

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i123/hugo_2_9/P1000400.jpg



hi

nice setup...

need thing to ask... please

where did you get the first picture tv stand can fit a cc690...

thanks


The best way to deal with the 690 is to build a shelf right off of the back wall. Right behind the tv at the right height so it looks like it's sitting on top of the tv. That's what I did till it went in the HT room.

Studio 10's are home for their demo. Kids are napping so no chance to crank up yet, but first impression at low volume is... wow!



Thanks for posting those. That makes me feel a lot better about my decision. They look more gray in the pics on the website. I was hoping they would be more black in person. Those do look great with the 10s. I'm sure they will look good with my 20s. I wish my 20s were v5 but I'm not ballin like that so I had to take what I could get. I bet your loving the sound of those 10s.

I used red oak for the 1st riser/tv stand, but this one I cheaped out on, it's run of the mill pine.

The new riser looks much nicer since you lowered the height. The old one looked too tall for the 590. I'm still debating whether to build a riser for the centre, or add a shelf above the TV, or wall mount the TV above the centre. Tilting wall mount was only $50 on boxing day and will probably go up quicker than trying to get a proper stain and finish on some maple (to match the console).

Well...how do they sound?? how do they compare with your old speakers?

They sound incredible! Very first impression upon cranking them up was suprise at how big the sound was and how well they filled the room (that was my biggest concern going in, since my room is borderline large). The next thing I noticed was the bass -- WAY more than I would have ever expected from a small speaker. Even my wife, who could care less about such things, was impressed.

Compared to my Vandersteens, it's not even close -- the Studios are better in every way. Now, let me caveat that by saying the Vandys are 25 years old so for all I know they're rotten to the core! That said, I've always thought they sounded "good" -- they just never impressed me. But when I turned on the Paradigms the sound was just so clear, so big, so effortless -- just an absolute pleasure.

Needless to say, I bought a pair this morning.. :)

So...I've been posting a lot about the new system I assumed I'd need to buy when I moved into my new home and going on about how my Studio 60 v3 speakers weren't going to cut it in the new room...but HOLY CRAP am I glad I assumed wrong. The wife and I finally moved into our new place and I got everything set up a few nights ago and these things sound like brand new speakers in their new home. Every place they have been up until this point they have been crammed next to a wall at the rear and at least one side, but now they have a few feet on every side and they just scream! I haven't changed a thing (not even Audyssey, which I disabled because I didn't like what it did in the last room) and the sound is so much better.

I suppose I under-estimated these speakers quite a bit. After hearing them in this new room, I may be able to wait a while before upgrading. I just need new grills due to a little discoloration from a poor attempt at cleaning "pet stains" (ugh!) off them after moving from a previous location with some naughty dogs :(.

Anyway...I just figured I'd pop in to say that I'm enjoying some old Studio 60's in a brand new way! I love these things all over again and am absolutely amazed at the drastic effect the room change had.

edit: Still need a new sub though, lol. Though, even the sub seems to behave better in this room...it just bottoms out trying to reproduce the levels I'm asking and that's unacceptable.

Paradigm MB-60 failures.

Anyone else use the MB-60 wall mounts and have issues? I have a pair of atoms mounted and BOTH mounts have failed. The plastic that joins the speaker plate to the wall plate has just shattered on both mounts. The first was a couple months ago and the second just yesterday. At least the safety caught the one this week. It seems that the design is just flawed as the plastic is the only thing connecting the two together.

Anyone else hear of this? My dealer wants me to pack up everything so they can ship it to Paradigm for review.

Yes they are:

can you get a pic of the whole stand please

[QUOTE=njgl_torres;19746263]

I used red oak for the 1st riser/tv stand, but this one I cheaped out on, it's run of the mill pine.

thanks ..... man

i got one on pc richard......

but its not a black color as same on my CC690...

can you get a pic of the whole stand please

I don't have a 690 but member KCWolfPck has some pictures in the following post and in his signature:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=16299382#post16299382

http://www.blu-ray.com/community/gallery.php?member=KCWolfPck&folderid=1600#

[QUOTE=njgl_torres;19746360]


The best way to deal with the 690 is to build a shelf right off of the back wall. Right behind the tv at the right height so it looks like it's sitting on top of the tv. That's what I did till it went in the HT room.

Or you can get a a nice center speaker stand like I did when I was dealing with that issue and its angled up towards the main seats but its hard to see in the pics http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r69/TheFactor_photos/DSC01845.jpg http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r69/TheFactor_photos/DSC01809.jpg

hi any people compare between polk audio rti a7 & paradigm monitor 11 and what is better ?

so what is the different ?

[QUOTE=dshred;19752705]

Or you can get a a nice center speaker stand like I did when I was dealing with that issue and its angled up towards the main seats but its hard to see in the pics http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r69/TheFactor_photos/DSC01845.jpg http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r69/TheFactor_photos/DSC01809.jpg

That is also a great idea. The only problem I have is two Rotties playing in the living room everyday. Worse than kids.........

The good news is they're not allowed in the theater room.

Have you ever tried those subs across from each other? I know all rooms are different but, I tried mine like yours and than one at the front and one at the back, and I'll tell you it made a huge difference. It was like adding a third sub.

Paradigm MB-60 failures.

Anyone else use the MB-60 wall mounts and have issues? I have a pair of atoms mounted and BOTH mounts have failed. The plastic that joins the speaker plate to the wall plate has just shattered on both mounts. The first was a couple months ago and the second just yesterday. At least the safety caught the one this week. It seems that the design is just flawed as the plastic is the only thing connecting the two together.

Anyone else hear of this? My dealer wants me to pack up everything so they can ship it to Paradigm for review.Which part specifically broke? The plate mounted to the wall which has the "socket" half of the joint, the plate mounted to the speaker which has the "ball", or the threaded plastic cup which secures the ball to the socket? Did they just break on their own, without any additional force applied to them?

[QUOTE=TheFactor;19758700]

That is also a great idea. The only problem I have is two Rotties playing in the living room everyday. Worse than kids.........

The good news is they're not allowed in the theater room.

Have you ever tried those subs across from each other? I know all rooms are different but, I tried mine like yours and than one at the front and one at the back, and I'll tell you it made a huge difference. It was like adding a third sub.

Yes if you can keep your pups out of there I think the speaker stand works great . I actually havent tryed relocating the subs but im really getting nice even lfe threw out my HT like this and feel no need to move them and they hit hard . Thanks for the idea though its much appreciated .

TheFactor,
Nice HT room! It looks like you originally had some Paradigms and now have a Klipsch setup. Is this true? Did you get rid of your Paradigm setup? If so, I am curious why you decided to switch to Klipsch as I am looking at getting a speaker system and have been looking at getting some Paradigms. Thanks!

Which part specifically broke? The plate mounted to the wall which has the "socket" half of the joint, the plate mounted to the speaker which has the "ball", or the threaded plastic cup which secures the ball to the socket? Did they just break on their own, without any additional force applied to them?

The plate mounted to the speaker failed in both of them. They are cracked and the small length of plastic pipe/tubing that connects to the plate on the speaker just broke up. Both cases happened in "off hours" where I was either out of town (my wife heard the Atom fall to the floor) or was asleep.

Here's what the last one looked like while hanging from the strap.
http://www.hollyman.com/P1010126.jpg

Hi everyone, I recently purchased a Yamaha RX-A800 receiver and I'm looking to purchase a new set of Paradigm speakers in a 5.1 setup. My home theater room is approximately 15' x 15' but the back of the room is an open concept into my kitchen and breakfast area.

I'm looking for the best speakers to go along with my Yamaha receiver. I've read some good things about the MilleniaOne 5.0 system along with the Seismic 110 sub-woofer.

Do you guys think this speaker combination is a good fit for the Yamaha RX-A800? If not what would you recommend?

I'm sure it's been asked before, but how long do you break in studio 100's before listening and finalizing set-up?
What is the best way to break them in ? Hard like cars?
Mine are still not in, but just wondering ahead of time.
Thanks.

The plate mounted to the speaker failed in both of them. They are cracked and the small length of plastic pipe/tubing that connects to the plate on the speaker just broke up. Both cases happened in "off hours" where I was either out of town (my wife heard the Atom fall to the floor) or was asleep.Wow. It's amazing that it would break all on its own.

I'm sure it's been asked before, but how long do you break in studio 100's before listening and finalizing set-up?
What is the best way to break them in ? Hard like cars?
Mine are still not in, but just wondering ahead of time.
Thanks.

hi...

mine i break in from 8:00am to 5:00pm before going to work then after work.. i crush a big sound in... amazing sound.... used 2 front channel only then a low volume around 25 - 30 ....i used bass sound ...thanks hope this help

Hey guys, I really love my Paradigm home theater setup. I have Monitor 7 left and rights, the CC-290 center and some SVS surrounds. I've had this setup for about a year now and haven't regretted buying any of it. My two questions are:

1. Will I notice a huge difference from the 290 center to the 390 center? I listen to lots of movies at a pretty high volume.

2. I own the Yamaha 663 which is sending through a Emotiva UPA-5 giving 125 x 5 continuous. Is this enough power for the Paradigms?

I am looking at buying some Paradigms and was originally looking at getting some Monitors but I've decided to up my budget some since I have heard how great the Studios are. My question is about the Millenia series. A local dealer mentioned on the phone that I should look at the Millenia series but I have not found any place to listen to them. I was wondering how the Millenia series compares/differs from the Studio series. I am going to be doing a 5.1 setup for 90% movies/tv/games and 10% music. I would love any input and info you guys can provide. Thanks in advance!

I'm sure it's been asked before, but how long do you break in studio 100's before listening and finalizing set-up?
What is the best way to break them in ? Hard like cars?
Mine are still not in, but just wondering ahead of time.
Thanks.

ive heard 100 hours i think . They keep sounding better and better every time:cool:

ive heard 100 hours i think . They keep sounding better and better every time:cool:

I was told around 100 for mine as well. I can tell you that I've got probably 350 on mine and just noticed a huge improvement in the last three weeks. It was like I turned the volume up and added speakers to the room. When my wife notices stuff like this, it makes happy. All I have done with mine since new is watch movies at regular volume. These speakers kick some serious a$$.

Hey all I just recently switched from paradigm monitor 9 v6 with a cc190 centre and I was looking at the studio 100's but at a price of over 3500 for the 2 studio 100 and a cc690 centre I bought the rc 70 and lcr for under 1400 taxes in...great boxing day sale...and ive heard the studio 100's but to be honest i'm very much enjoying my energy setup and think that they are a huge step up from monitor 9 and quite on par for the studio 100 series...so now my setup is 2 rc 70 for mains energy rc lcr centre and I now use my paradigms as surround and that completes the 5.1 and they are awesome at doing that ..the front 3 are powered by a emotiva xpa-3 so lots of power and the sub I use is a paradigm dsp 3200 I like paradigm but not the monitor series because I find them to have way too much treble ...now for the first time I really enjoy my system and will finally stop thinking of upgrading my speakers...I always thought my cc190 was too thin and monitor 9 too harsh at least for me...anyone else have similar system that they can comment on

Interesting. I always thought the highs of the monitor series were just right. Not to bright but not too low. I've heard great things about the RC 70 series, though. I would love to hear them someday.

I was told around 100 for mine as well. I can tell you that I've got probably 350 on mine and just noticed a huge improvement in the last three weeks. It was like I turned the volume up and added speakers to the room. When my wife notices stuff like this, it makes happy. All I have done with mine since new is watch movies at regular volume. These speakers kick some serious a$$.

Ok. I'll do some more reading into it also. That is quite a while, but I'll just run them all day like you said. I wish they would get here so I could start.:D

A couple pictures yes I did some post processing to in Photoshop CS4 because the white balance wasn't right and they had way too much blue in them, so I toned it down. The one you can see the back with the terminal posts and the last pictures are the ones that I toned the blue out of, the rest were straight pictures and just resized. Mostly though just resizing.


Hoestly, there was no reason to it, I just did it. As the posted above stated, it has the jumpers in, so it doesn't matter which one I plugged what into, it works the same.


Yes they are the Black Ash version and I really love them - they just plan look as good as they sound - Paradigm made some incredible speakers.

PETRUS - I just wanted to say I love your sig - nice!
The1stCav- I was admiring your speaker porn, I have the Studio 100’s and a 590 as well. Did you make/have the media stand made or did you purchase it? I’m in the market for a very similar look and trying to see if I can take the easy way out.

Ok. I'll do some more reading into it also. That is quite a while, but I'll just run them all day like you said. I wish they would get here so I could start.:D

You'll see when you get them. If you watch all your movies on the same volume, you will notice one day that they have gotten louder. Then you start re-watching movies that you know, and you'll be very impressed. I sh!t you not.

Hi everyone, I recently purchased a Yamaha RX-A800 receiver and I'm looking to purchase a new set of Paradigm speakers in a 5.1 setup. My home theater room is approximately 15' x 15' but the back of the room is an open concept into my kitchen and breakfast area.

I'm looking for the best speakers to go along with my Yamaha receiver. I've read some good things about the MilleniaOne 5.0 system along with the Seismic 110 sub-woofer.

Do you guys think this speaker combination is a good fit for the Yamaha RX-A800? If not what would you recommend?

Yea I read that review about the millenia ones and the seismic 110. I really want to hear a pair but I have not gotten a chance to yet. Your Yamaha will do fine with the Paradigms.

You'll see when you get them. If you watch all your movies on the same volume, you will notice one day that they have gotten louder. Then you start re-watching movies that you know, and you'll be very impressed. I sh!t you not.

That sounds promising. I'm expecting a big step up from my current Athena S3's. They sound good to me, but not nearly as open as the 100's I heard at the store. They tend to sound bright and strange when pushed. I hope the 100's are more forgiving at the same levels. I'll take some dB measurements brand new, then again after 100 hours.

Hey guys,

I just received a pair of ADP-350's I bought used from a guy on Audiogon. Overall they are in great condition. Only thing is the mounting brackets seem incomplete to me. There should be 4 pieces correct? 2 pieces of hardware (1 attached to each speaker) and then 2 hangers that go on the wall side? I can't see any other way it would be possible to mount them.

Anyhow the ADP's do have the speaker side bracket attached to the rears but, he didn't send the wall side brackets?

Any alternative hardware to mount these flush against the wall? Or am I missing something and not seeing how these things mount correctly with what I have?

Thanks in advance.

That sounds promising. I'm expecting a big step up from my current Athena S3's. They sound good to me, but not nearly as open as the 100's I heard at the store. They tend to sound bright and strange when pushed. I hope the 100's are more forgiving at the same levels. I'll take some dB measurements brand new, then again after 100 hours.

I wouldn't kid you about a thing like this. When I got mine I watched T2 again to see the difference between the 100's and the 60's I've had for three years, the 60's sounded better in some parts of the movie. The 60's kicked ass in the 7-11 scene, not anymore though.

If you're going to do measurements, I suggest every 100/hrs up to 400. If you could keep track that would be a good test.

No matter what you do with them, you'll like them - that's for sure.

Ok now I see the brackets SHOULD be a total of 4 pieces - 2 speaker side and 2 wall side. Hmm. Kind of ticked right now. Anyhow, again any ideas on what I can put on the wall side to utilize with the existing speaker side brackets that are there to get them flush against the walls? Don't really want to use a aftermarket mount as I can't find anything that'll sit flush.

PS- Here's my meager set up:

Monitor 7 v3
CC-290 v6
ADP 350
In the rear I'm still using some old Mission bookshelves. Switching over to Atoms soon.
Outlaw LFM-EX as my sub

I listen to a lot of 2.1 in the vinyl format and also watch a ton of movies. Love these speakers. Took a little time to break in my CC-290 which I just recently got via 6ave for a steal :).


Short term upgrade to Monitor 9 v6 in the not too distant future. But, the 7 v3 and the CC-290 v6 blend very well. The 7 v3's are still in mint condition too.

They're being driven by a Marantz SR5003 for the sides and rears and an Emotiva XPA-3 up front. Marantz SR7005 to come fairly soon as well to replace the 5003. BUT, that 5003 still is a great sounding receiver.

I've recently been upgrading my whole system from an all Mission set up to all Paradigm. Was time for a change and I've always been wanting Paradigm.

Any alternative hardware to mount these flush against the wall? Or am I missing something and not seeing how these things mount correctly with what I have?

Yes, you seem to be missing the other half. See my post here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=19687730#post19687730) for an alternative.

Nobody have any insight as to the differences in these speaker lineups? (besides looks of course) I would greatly appreciate it!

I am looking at buying some Paradigms and was originally looking at getting some Monitors but I've decided to up my budget some since I have heard how great the Studios are. My question is about the Millenia series. A local dealer mentioned on the phone that I should look at the Millenia series but I have not found any place to listen to them. I was wondering how the Millenia series compares/differs from the Studio series. I am going to be doing a 5.1 setup for 90% movies/tv/games and 10% music. I would love any input and info you guys can provide. Thanks in advance!

Yes, you seem to be missing the other half. See my post here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=19687730#post19687730) for an alternative.

Great minds must think alike I suppose and thank you very much! I just got back from the Depot with some keyhole hangers while you were posting this :).

FWIW I spoke w/ Paradigm this morning and they are out of the hangers until the end of January. I called around to a few L.A. dealers and they did not have them on hand either. Glad to know the keyhole hangers will survive the earthquake test too.

Nobody have any insight as to the differences in these speaker lineups? (besides looks of course) I would greatly appreciate it!

I think that the millenia series is a premium over the monitor series based on size/placement options. If you want to step up, the Studio series is where to look for good value in my opinion. I found the monitor series to be a good performer, but they were just missing something compared to the studios.
Voices like Diana Krall and Norah Jones seemed so much more real through the studios. Like they were singing for me, instead of speakers playing them.
I also found the bass had more snap. The monitors sounded like they had more bass, but it wasn't as crisp on the attack of it.
This was all through an $800 cambridge amp and $800 cambridge pre, didn't notice the player though actually...

I bought a pair of Paradigm Studio 20 v5 Speakers that got damaged during moving. The corners were crushed on both speakers seeing how thay are made from MDF (sawdust and glue). It took me 3 Weeks...8+ Emails...2 Dealers and finally I called myself and after being *ON HOLD* for over 15 minutes...a 15+ minute Phone Call fron California to Canada (My Dime Not Toll Free) to find the price for "replacement Cabinets". $435 EACH!!! :eek:...and that does not include Shipping! I only paid $900 for the pair Brand New! Paradigm Speakers are not that great for me to go through this again! I have replaced the Paradigm Studio 20's with Monitor Audio's RX2's with the 8" Mid-Woofer and the new C-Cam Tweeter I am much happier with the sound! The fact that these Monitor Audio were $300 less a pair with "real wood veeners" is all the Sweeter! Paradigm and all the other Speaker Companies need to look into keeping "replacement Cabinets" in Stock in their Parts Deptments. I know I am not the only person that has damaged their speakers just by the amount of "how to repair MDF Speaker Cabinets" on Google! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Thanks for some info. So since the Millenia and Studio are a step up from the Monitor series and I want to go to the next level which of the 2 should I get? The Studios are definitely better then the Millenia? I think they may be around the same price but I'm not sure. I am wondering in the difference in sound between the two.

I think that the millenia series is a premium over the monitor series based on size/placement options. If you want to step up, the Studio series is where to look for good value in my opinion. I found the monitor series to be a good performer, but they were just missing something compared to the studios.
Voices like Diana Krall and Norah Jones seemed so much more real through the studios. Like they were singing for me, instead of speakers playing them.
I also found the bass had more snap. The monitors sounded like they had more bass, but it wasn't as crisp on the attack of it.
This was all through an $800 cambridge amp and $800 cambridge pre, didn't notice the player though actually...

This was in the main speaker forum. Paradigm is going to start selling some powered atoms online. Here is the link (http://www.cepro.com/article/paradigm_goes_retail_with_powered_speakers_headphones/?utm_source=CEPWeekly&utm_medium=email)

I bought a pair of Paradigm Studio 20 v5 Speakers that got damaged during moving. The corners were crushed on both speakers seeing how thay are made from MDF (sawdust and glue). It took me 3 Weeks...8+ Emails...2 Dealers and finally I called myself and after being *ON HOLD* for over 15 minutes...a 15+ minute Phone Call fron California to Canada (My Dime Not Toll Free) to find the price for "replacement Cabinets". $435 EACH!!! :eek:...and that does not include Shipping! I only paid $900 for the pair Brand New! Paradigm Speakers are not that great for me to go through this again! I have replaced the Paradigm Studio 20's with Monitor Audio's RX2's with the 8" Mid-Woofer and the new C-Cam Tweeter I am much happier with the sound! The fact that these Monitor Audio were $300 less a pair with "real wood veeners" is all the Sweeter! Paradigm and all the other Speaker Companies need to look into keeping "replacement Cabinets" in Stock in their Parts Deptments. I know I am not the only person that has damaged their speakers just by the amount of "how to repair MDF Speaker Cabinets" on Google! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

Thanks for the warning. Ill try to remember not to completely crush my speakers.

I bought a pair of Paradigm Studio 20 v5 Speakers that got damaged during moving. The corners were crushed on both speakers seeing how thay are made from MDF (sawdust and glue). It took me 3 Weeks...8+ Emails...2 Dealers and finally I called myself and after being *ON HOLD* for over 15 minutes...

The dealer you bought the speakers from wasn't helpful?

Most decent dealers would probably have ordered the replacement cabinets at cost for you, and most likely swap the drivers/crossover/etc for free also. If you aren't buying from a good dealer, you might as well just get your speakers from an internet direct brand, or buy used. In theory, that dealer markup you paid should have bought you this little thing called "service".

BTW, most mass-market speakers are MDF, your new Monitor Audios included. One exception I can think of is Ascend, with their Sierra line manufactured from bamboo.

Hey guys, I really love my Paradigm home theater setup. I have Monitor 7 left and rights, the CC-290 center and some SVS surrounds. I've had this setup for about a year now and haven't regretted buying any of it. My two questions are:

1. Will I notice a huge difference from the 290 center to the 390 center? I listen to lots of movies at a pretty high volume.

2. I own the Yamaha 663 which is sending through a Emotiva UPA-5 giving 125 x 5 continuous. Is this enough power for the Paradigms?

For movies at high volume I would say the 390 would be an audible step up from the 290. Probably not dramatic, though. Whether it's worth the price difference is up to you...

And 125w is plenty of power for those speakers.

Does anyone know where to look at the frequency response charts for Paradigm speakers? I am wanting to look at the chart for the Studio 20s. Thanks!

Thanks for the warning. Ill try to remember not to completely crush my speakers.

I looked all through the CES announcement and saw nothing about a new crushed speaker department for AVS forum members who drop their speakers off a 3rd story balconies or moving trains???? I know most other manufacturers have a crushed speaker departments just waiting to help customers.
:p

I bought a pair of Paradigm Studio 20 v5 Speakers that got damaged during moving. The corners were crushed on both speakers seeing how thay are made from MDF (sawdust and glue). It took me 3 Weeks...8+ Emails...2 Dealers and finally I called myself and after being *ON HOLD* for over 15 minutes...a 15+ minute Phone Call fron California to Canada (My Dime Not Toll Free) to find the price for "replacement Cabinets". $435 EACH!!! :eek:...and that does not include Shipping! I only paid $900 for the pair Brand New! Paradigm Speakers are not that great for me to go through this again! I have replaced the Paradigm Studio 20's with Monitor Audio's RX2's with the 8" Mid-Woofer and the new C-Cam Tweeter I am much happier with the sound! The fact that these Monitor Audio were $300 less a pair with "real wood veeners" is all the Sweeter! Paradigm and all the other Speaker Companies need to look into keeping "replacement Cabinets" in Stock in their Parts Deptments. I know I am not the only person that has damaged their speakers just by the amount of "how to repair MDF Speaker Cabinets" on Google! :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


The cabinets cost so much because they are made in China. We send them the MDF in shipping containers and they send back cabinets. You're better off buying new speaks.

The cabinets cost so much because they are made in China. We send them the MDF in shipping containers and they send back cabinets. You're better off buying new speaks.
He did buy new speakers ;) :D

I got my VTI speaker stands in yesterday. I think they look great. Here's a pic:
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af352/mjpearce023/d0cb055f.jpg

Stands look nice. Your picture makes them look better then previous pictures of them that I have seen on store sites. Yours makes them look glossier and a deeper black. Online they looked really textured and more grayish. Glad you posted the pic!

He did buy new speakers ;) :D

Yes, and the new ones have real wood veneers...just like the old ones. ;)

I got my VTI speaker stands in yesterday. I think they look great. Here's a pic:
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af352/mjpearce023/d0cb055f.jpg

Looks like your new speaker stand could beat the crap out of your wife's plant stand in a fair fight.

Why do you assume it's his wife's plant stand?....lol

Looks like your new speaker stand could beat the crap out of your wife's plant stand in a fair fight.

Stands look nice. Your picture makes them look better then previous pictures of them that I have seen on store sites. Yours makes them look glossier and a deeper black. Online they looked really textured and more grayish. Glad you posted the pic!

Yea I liked the shape of them but I didn't like how grey they looked in the picture. After pg_rider posted a pic of them I saw how good they really looked and jumped on them. They don't really look grey at all.

Why do you assume it's his wife's plant stand?....lol

Actually my Mom gave me that plant and the plant stand a couple years ago. I don't have to worry about the whole wife approval factor. I just threw the tree in there so ladies would feel comfortable when they come over. Too many electronics will scare them away. You have to throw something pretty in there.

guys, i read this thread quite frequently and there is always arguments in this entire forum about whether an amp is needed or not. well, i have sig S4s v.2 and last night i just felt like blasting them (0.0dB on a Pioneer SC-27) with the Kings of Leon blu ray. While doing this at that volume everything became so shrill and harsh i was in total shock (good thing i was not demoing for friends). i thought to myself,

could it be that i do not have enough power?

i say this because when it is at about -10.0dB is sounds unbelievably awesome. Most things do sound perfect to me at that volume but it was noted that the Pioneer SC-27 pushes out its rated wattage of approximately 140w with all channels driven and i was only listening to the BD in stereo. do i really need more power?

is it because i do not have room acoustics?

Now, while listening at that volume, i could not discern any instruments. Everything just sounded like one big ol' noise coming at me very loud and harsh. Not even the bass was discernible. I was even saying that i could not hear any bass with the volume being so loud. Is this a result of not having room treatments

is it because the size of my room?

I thought that the volume may have been too much for my room. My room is an all in one dining,living and kitchen all of which is about 3500^3 ft. I personally dont think that that size is too small for the volume at all.

could it be the recording of the BD?

Well, personally i dont think so cause as i said this has been one of the best audio BDs i have ever heard in my life. Everything is so smooth and clear. Who else agrees? So i figured to rule that out.

So what is teh real problem here?????

guys, i read this thread quite frequently and there is always arguments in this entire forum about whether an amp is needed or not. well, i have sig S4s v.2 and last night i just felt like blasting them (0.0dB on a Pioneer SC-27) with the Kings of Leon blu ray. While doing this at that volume everything became so shrill and harsh i was in total shock (good thing i was not demoing for friends). i thought to myself,

could it be that i do not have enough power?

i say this because when it is at about -10.0dB is sounds unbelievably awesome. Most things do sound perfect to me at that volume but it was noted that the Pioneer SC-27 pushes out its rated wattage of approximately 140w with all channels driven and i was only listening to the BD in stereo. do i really need more power?

is it because i do not have room acoustics?

Now, while listening at that volume, i could not discern any instruments. Everything just sounded like one big ol' noise coming at me very loud and harsh. Not even the bass was discernible. I was even saying that i could not hear any bass with the volume being so loud. Is this a result of not having room treatments

is it because the size of my room?

I thought that the volume may have been too much for my room. My room is an all in one dining,living and kitchen all of which is about 3500^3 ft. I personally dont think that that size is too small for the volume at all.

could it be the recording of the BD?

Well, personally i dont think so cause as i said this has been one of the best audio BDs i have ever heard in my life. Everything is so smooth and clear. Who else agrees? So i figured to rule that out.

So what is teh real problem here?????

You are distorting the speakers and run the risk of damaging them. If you jam them that loud, your receiver is running out of clean power and I would suggest an amp. Your receiver was reviewed by home theater magazine included tested power specs. http://www.hometheater.com/content/pioneer-elite-sc-27-av-receiver-ht-labs-measures

Here is your speakers specs:

Your S4
Sensitivity - Room / Anechoic 91 dB / 88 dB
Suitable Amplifier Power Range 15 - 325 watts
Maximum Input Power† 180 watts

Just going by your description, the size of the room, and volume you were listening, you will need an amp if you want to jam that loud or damage your speakers.

Why do you assume it's his wife's plant stand?....lol

Gender bias. Let's hope they don't get into it.

You are distorting the speakers and run the risk of damaging them. If you jam them that loud, your receiver is running out of clean power and I would suggest an amp. Your receiver was reviewed by home theater magazine included tested power specs. http://www.hometheater.com/content/pioneer-elite-sc-27-av-receiver-ht-labs-measures

Here is your speakers specs:

Your S4
Sensitivity - Room / Anechoic 91 dB / 88 dB
Suitable Amplifier Power Range 15 - 325 watts
Maximum Input Power† 180 watts

Just going by your description, the size of the room, and volume you were listening, you will need an amp if you want to jam that loud or damage your speakers.

Kimwyn, you might demo an amp from a dealer to confirm this, or rent an Emotiva for 30 days.

Kimwyn, you might demo an amp from a dealer to confirm this, or rent an Emotiva for 30 days.

That is the best solution. It will give you peace of mind that you are not going to get stuck with an amp.

I picked up a pair of v.6 Mini Monitors and a v.6 CC-190 last night. The Mini Monitors are replacing a pair of 20 year old Paradigm 5SEs in the front and my center is replacing a 7 year old CC-70.

I'm very impressed with the Mini Monitors - they sound great, as powerful (or more powerful) than the old 5SEs they're replacing and they take up a lot less room. I skimped when I bought the CC-70 years ago and have regretted it ever since (it just isn't a nice sounding Paradigm speaker), so the CC-190 is quite a step up. Dialog is actually clear now and I didn't have to bump the center level up above the rest of the speakers.

I'm running a pair of v.3 Atoms for surrounds to round out my 5.1 setup. It sounds very nice overall.

Just wanted to share in the Paradigm love :)

edit:

Oh, actually, I have a quick question - I don't have a sub, so I set the fronts to "Large" on my Denon AVR-590. Should I set the CC-190 to "Large" as well? I've never had this powerful of a center speaker before.

I got my VTI speaker stands in yesterday. I think they look great.

Very nice -- looks like you ran your speaker wire inside the stand? Did you also sand-fill them?

Very nice -- looks like you ran your speaker wire inside the stand? Did you also sand-fill them?

No, they seem to be a lot more stable than my old stands even without sand in them. I don’t have pets or kids so I really don’t have to worry about them getting knocked over. Thanks for posting those pics. I’m really glad I chose the VTIs. They are a lot nicer looking than in the pics on the standsandmounts.com.

Oh, actually, I have a quick question - I don't have a sub, so I set the fronts to "Large" on my Denon AVR-590. Should I set the CC-190 to "Large" as well? I've never had this powerful of a center speaker before.

In my opinion you would want all speakers set to large since you don't have a sub. That's what I did when I was running a cc370 and monitor 3s with no sub.
The minis really do have a big sound to them. I was shocked the first time I heard them. I have them as my surrounds now and they do an outstanding job.

I'm in the process of building a new house and in planning my HT/Family Room. I've got Studio 60's for the fronts and a Studio CC for the center channel. I love it, but whereas I may be moving the TV to be mounted above a fireplace... I think I may have to move on from the huge Studio CC center channel. I've looked at the Millenia and that seems to be a good option in terms of form, but has anyone matched any of the Millenia CC's with a Studio pair of fronts (particularly the 60's)???

In a not unrelated matter, I'm likely going to pursue in-wall speakers for my surrounds . At present I use 4 Polk satellites from a pretty decent 5.1 system I bought 8 years ago when I worked at Circuit City. The Polks are sufficient for my use, but to help the WAF, I'd like to move the speakers in wall at least in the back. Any thoughts on voice matching in the back with the front stage of HT?

At present, I'm pushing my system with a Denon 3803, but possibly moving to the Pioneer 1120K for HDMI switching. So I may see a decrease in the power getting pushed out if that makes a significant difference. TIA.

Oh, actually, I have a quick question - I don't have a sub, so I set the fronts to "Large" on my Denon AVR-590. Should I set the CC-190 to "Large" as well? I've never had this powerful of a center speaker before.I would set them all to Small, but lower the crossover to 60Hz or 50Hz. IMO, by running these speakers (especially the CC-190) full range, you run the risk of damaging them with movie soundtracks.

Running any ported speaker below its tuning frequency has the potential to damage them.

Paradigm 100 v5, CC-690, ADP-590 + Emotiva XPA-5 + I still need a receiver and confused between the Onkyo 1008 or Onkyo 3008 .. or Yamaha RX A-3000 ... what do you guys suggest for my set of speakers? Thank you
and is that enough power?

Paradigm 100 v5, CC-690, ADP-590 + Emotiva XPA-5 + I still need a receiver and confused between the Onkyo 1008 or Onkyo 3008 .. or Yamaha RX A-3000 ... what do you guys suggest for my set of speakers? Thank you
and is that enough power?

I just bought the 1008 but if I could have afforded it I would have gone with the 3008.

Hey all I just recently switched from paradigm monitor 9 v6 with a cc190 centre and I was looking at the studio 100's but at a price of over 3500 for the 2 studio 100 and a cc690 centre I bought the rc 70 and lcr for under 1400 taxes in...great boxing day sale...and ive heard the studio 100's but to be honest i'm very much enjoying my energy setup and think that they are a huge step up from monitor 9 and quite on par for the studio 100 series...so now my setup is 2 rc 70 for mains energy rc lcr centre and I now use my paradigms as surround and that completes the 5.1 and they are awesome at doing that ..the front 3 are powered by a emotiva xpa-3 so lots of power and the sub I use is a paradigm dsp 3200 I like paradigm but not the monitor series because I find them to have way too much treble ...now for the first time I really enjoy my system and will finally stop thinking of upgrading my speakers...I always thought my cc190 was too thin and monitor 9 too harsh at least for me...anyone else have similar system that they can comment on

Which is why you'll often hear "to each his own". :) I saw that the RC70 was going on sale at Future Shop on boxing day, so visited the store before hand to give a listen. I was truly disappointed. The speakers sounded boomy no matter where I stood. I also checked out every other tower there and the only ones I liked were the Energy Veritas V63, but at $3,200 I was into Studio 60/100 territory and well above my budget. To my ears the Studio 20 sounded as good or better than the V63 and at $1,200 was the best bang for buck out of everything that I had listened to, including the full Monitor line. Still, glad to hear that you like the RC70. The current pricing is very favorable.

I can see the cc190 being too thin. I listened to small centres and none of them had enough bass to match the rich fullness of the mains. Not until the drivers got up to 6½" or bigger. I'm glad that I waited until I looked around on Canuck Audio Mart. Managed to find a used Studio CC v2 in mint condition, and it matches the new Studio 20 quite well. Not even sure that I need to replace it with a Studio CC-590 now.

Woohoo finally pulled the trigger on the 690. I listened to the 490 which was great but the 690 wow. IMHO was every bit as good if not better than my friends B&W htm center channel. I hope around 1250 was a good price. Well I have to plan and build the riser now :). Lots of good ideas here from wrpdrv and others

anyone compare the studio 20 v5 with Dynaudio's X12 or B&W CM1 ? I'm looking into the 20's for use without a sub for music and with a sub for ht.

Thanks

anyone compare the studio 20 v5 with Dynaudio's X12 or B&W CM1 ? I'm looking into the 20's for use without a sub for music and with a sub for ht.

ThanksI compared the Studio 10 to the CM1, and preferred the 10's in virtually every way, especially the bass. The Studio 20 would have much bass than the CM1 if being used without a sub. The CM5 would be closer to the Studio 20's, but a few hundred dollars higher in price.

I'd like to hear the X12, but dealers are a little hard to come by.

Could somebody please post a pic of the bottom of a studio 10/20?
I'd like to see how they mount to stands if I could.
Thanks

No, they seem to be a lot more stable than my old stands even without sand in them. I don’t have pets or kids so I really don’t have to worry about them getting knocked over. Thanks for posting those pics. I’m really glad I chose the VTIs. They are a lot nicer looking than in the pics on the standsandmounts.com.

You're welcome -- that's what these threads are for. :)

Did you use the little sticky pads to hold the speaker to the stand? I'm thinking of drilling holes in the top plate to screw the speaker directly to the stand (once my speakers arrive :) ).

Guys I am about to buy a Paradigm setup (5.1) for 90% movies/games/tv and 10% music and wanted a little advice. I am going to buy Studio 20s for the fronts and a CC-590 for the center. The question I have is about the surrounds. I am really stretching my budget with the above speakers and thought that I could maybe use the monitor series adp-390 for my surrounds instead of the studio series adp-590 since not as much sound is going to come from the surrounds. Do you guys think this would sound a lot different or do you think it would match ok? If everyone thinks it is really going to be a big deal then I MIGHT be able to stretch the budget even more but I would rather put that money toward a better sub, receiver..etc. Please give me your input!

I got my VTI speaker stands in yesterday. I think they look great. Here's a pic:


Very nice. I guess that is what they would look like if I had kept my studio 20s. I had always planned to buy that stand in the 29" version. I sold the speakers to my coworker(incredibly happy to get them and very impressed with the sound so he is listening to all his CDs again because of all the new sonic detail he has found with them.) Racksandstands has the VTIs for slightly more, but they happened to have a return in that height on the same day my coworker bought my speakers so at half off it was $64.50 shipped.. He said that they did not even seem as if the packaging was opened.. So it was a good deal for him. I advise others to check out their clearance stands if they are in the market for them. Anyone selling the 470 or 570 v3? My coworker now needs it to finish off hisnfront 3.

Im getting ready to upgrade my studio 100 v2s on my rears/surrounds to the signatures in a 7.2 system. Would it be best to get two pair of ADP3s for the rears/surrounds, or perhaps a pair of S4s and a pair of ADP3s? Ive had towers on my rears for a little over two years.... and I've been rather happy with that configuration. But I dont want to spring for a pair of S6s for the rears when I already have the S8s and C5 up front.

Guys I am about to buy a Paradigm setup (5.1) for 90% movies/games/tv and 10% music and wanted a little advice. I am going to buy Studio 20s for the fronts and a CC-590 for the center. The question I have is about the surrounds. I am really stretching my budget with the above speakers and thought that I could maybe use the monitor series adp-390 for my surrounds instead of the studio series adp-590 since not as much sound is going to come from the surrounds. Do you guys think this would sound a lot different or do you think it would match ok? If everyone thinks it is really going to be a big deal then I MIGHT be able to stretch the budget even more but I would rather put that money toward a better sub, receiver..etc. Please give me your input!

I'm of the opinion that unless you're into multi-channel music, you'd be fine to with the monitor surrounds and invest the money into better sub(s) & amplification. Definitely want the front mains and center to match though (which you seem to be doing)

Scooby, you don't need big speaks for rears, just get some S2's.

They don't make the S4's anymore.

Thanks Rush. Does anyone else have experience using adp-390 with studio fronts?

I'm of the opinion that unless you're into multi-channel music, you'd be fine to with the monitor surrounds and invest the money into better sub(s) & amplification. Definitely want the front mains and center to match though (which you seem to be doing)

The Speakers fell off the back of a moving truck by accident. about 3ft And yes....they were bubble wraped and in a box..I did not "completely crush them"...just the front corners "split open/crushed". The same most likely would of happened to any other speaker. I'm not complaining about the Speakers as much as the Customer Service! Also, their Website is one of the SLOWEST I have ever been on! Now, that being said...just look at the diffrence between the two speakers. Studio 20's still use grills with mounting post so if you like to show off them speakers (and who dosent) you get to see the 4 holes on the baffel where the Rx2's use magnets just like the B&W CM5's ($1500 a pair) and just look more High End.Plus, all edges are rounded over...not sharp angles like the Studio 20's. And the veener is at lease twice as thick as the Studio 20's! As far as the sound...the Monitor Audio's just fit better with my *Anthem 225* integrated amplifier. Just a little more *sparkle* on the top end and a little more mid-bass. I also have a Velodyne Optimum 12 to add a taste of the low stuff (1200 watts). As for CD/Blu-Ray...I have the Oppo BDP-83SE. :)

Thanks Rush. Does anyone else have experience using adp-390 with studio fronts?

I Have adp-390s with Studio 60 fronts & 590 center. No problem with having immersive surround sound movie experience. I use the money I saved for a Hsu VTF-3 Mk3 sub. Definitely made the right decision.

Thanks leadfoot. How do you like your hsu sub? Are you glad you got that compared to a Paradigm sub? I am holding off on getting a sub until I save up a little more money as I am already going over my budget on my 5 speakers. I figure I will look at an internet company such as SVS or HSU though.

Leadfoot do you have any pictures of your setup? What finish did you get? I am trying to decide what finish I want and pretty much have it narrowed down to black ash or piano black. Kind of stinks that the piano black is $100 more. Only thing i would be concerned about with the piano black is fingerprints and reflections. I hate having my video reflect off of glossy things when the lights are off.

I would appreciate it if people could post some pics of their black ash and piano black speakers so I can see how they look first hand. Thanks!

I posted some pictures of my piano black Paradigms after I got them earlier this year. I was concerned about reflections too, but it turned out to be a non-issue.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18359681#post18359681

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=18386508#post18386508

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=19247016#post19247016

Thanks for the pictures fleming. Are you happy with the piano black? Just trying to decide if it is worth $200 to get piano black on my front 3

I'm happy with the piano black. I was originally going to get the cherry finish, but I photoshopped a mockup, and the colour wouldn't have matched the stand I picked out. I went with the piano black instead. Here is the mockup and the final result:

mockup:
http://70.75.2.101/ParadigmS8/paradigm_synergy_mockup.jpg

final result after everything arrived:
http://70.75.2.101/ParadigmS8/S8_system_all_grills_off.jpg

Thanks leadfoot. How do you like your hsu sub? Are you glad you got that compared to a Paradigm sub?

I love the hsu sub. I never auditioned a Paradigm sub but I looked at the Paradigm for their speakers, not their sub. The hsu is eveything I hoped for.

Leadfoot do you have any pictures of your setup? What finish did you get?

I got the regular black finish. Not sure what it's called. I could've waited 3-4 days for rosewood, but the blacks were in stock and a long weekend was coming up. To me, the sound quality was always more than aesthetics, so I got the regular blacks.

Here are two pics. The front 3, and one of the adp-390s and the hsu.

I have an hsu vtf3-ho and think it's great. You'd be well-served by going with hsu or svs for your sub.

Scooby, you don't need big speaks for rears, just get some S2's.

They don't make the S4's anymore.

Yeah I know they are discontinued. But I know they generally show up used on audiogon. And the version 2s have the berrylium tweeters. I was wanting to put a larger speaker on the rears than the s2s. I was considering putting 2 pair of adp3s but I don't have anywhere on the wall to put an adp3.

I was wanting to put a larger speaker on the rears than the s2s.


Its your money, personally I think its a waste, as surround material is drastically less then the rest of the 5 speakers in the mix, especially since 90% of surround back stuff is matrixed anyways.... but to each their own...

Heck I didn't even buy paradigms for my rear surrounds - I ended up with Infinity Classia back there and seeing as they don't really do all that much work - I'm more then thrilled to death with them for "filler" - The completely enveloping sound of my system will more then astound anyone in that room...

Mac13, here are some side pics and close up of the black ash texture. Don't mind the bit of dust on top :o

Its your money, personally I think its a waste, as surround material is drastically less then the rest of the 5 speakers in the mix, especially since 90% of surround back stuff is matrixed anyways.... but to each their own.....

I was recommended to place ADP-390 Dipole in a 5.1 set up ... Will 190's will be ok ?

Its your money, personally I think its a waste, as surround material is drastically less then the rest of the 5 speakers in the mix, especially since 90% of surround back stuff is matrixed anyways.... but to each their own...

Heck I didn't even buy paradigms for my rear surrounds - I ended up with Infinity Classia back there and seeing as they don't really do all that much work - I'm more then thrilled to death with them for "filler" - The completely enveloping sound of my system will more then astound anyone in that room...

The dipoles? The towers look quite unique. From the looks of them, I would not have guessed that they were any cheaper than the paradigm stuff.
I know you didn't say cheaper, but it is implied in your statement.
Or, maybe you were implying that a sonic match was not of paramount importance? Either way, I agree. I just sold my rear powered towers, and although I notice them gone sonically, it isn't bothering me enough right now to even replace them. The front soundstage and good bass provide 95% of the experience for me.

Yeah the Dipoles..... My setup is unique - the rear for me is a corner - and my front is in a corner, so I needed something tight back in the corner and instead of buying 2 speakers, I just bought a single Dipole and run each side as a separate channel - works great for me.... and the SQ is awesome - one would never notice that it wasn't the same as the rest of the system...

Yeah the Dipoles..... My setup is unique - the rear for me is a corner - and my front is in a corner, so I needed something tight back in the corner and instead of buying 2 speakers, I just bought a single Dipole and run each side as a separate channel - works great for me.... and the SQ is awesome - one would never notice that it wasn't the same as the rest of the system...

Nice. Good thinking. Unique solution for a unique situation. I bet the sound coming out of a corner like that sounds good. Good dispersion.

Quick question - I have Studio 60 v5 fronts, ADP surrounds and Klipsch RC-52 center (one thing left to upgrade). I know I should be using a Paradigm centre as well.

Of course should be using a studio center, but I can get a really good deal on a used CC-390. Does anyone see any issues with this?

Rob

Quick question - I have Studio 60 v5 fronts, ADP surrounds and Klipsch RC-52 center (one thing left to upgrade). I know I should be using a Paradigm centre as well.

Of course should be using a studio center, but I can get a really good deal on a used CC-390. Does anyone see any issues with this?

Rob

It will likely be a bit brighter, but besides that, it is certainly capable.
I would choose it over the 490 for sure. You might not even notice the difference. My mirage pans really well with my Athena's, and I expect it to do the same with the studio 100's. I won't be changing it until we build our basement room.

You're welcome -- that's what these threads are for. :)

Did you use the little sticky pads to hold the speaker to the stand? I'm thinking of drilling holes in the top plate to screw the speaker directly to the stand (once my speakers arrive :) ).

I have some little rubber things I put on top of the stand. I didn't want the speakers stuck to the stands. I don't know why I just don't like sticking anything to them. I might end up using them but I'm not right now. Are you sure you want to drill holes in the speaker? That would hurt resale value.

Very nice. I guess that is what they would look like if I had kept my studio 20s. I had always planned to buy that stand in the 29" version. I sold the speakers to my coworker(incredibly happy to get them and very impressed with the sound so he is listening to all his CDs again because of all the new sonic detail he has found with them.) Racksandstands has the VTIs for slightly more, but they happened to have a return in that height on the same day my coworker bought my speakers so at half off it was $64.50 shipped.. He said that they did not even seem as if the packaging was opened.. So it was a good deal for him. I advise others to check out their clearance stands if they are in the market for them. Anyone selling the 470 or 570 v3? My coworker now needs it to finish off hisnfront 3.

Thanks. I bought a cc570 a few months ago to go with my v3 studio 20s. It's awesome. Unless you find him a great deal on a 470, I would recommend the 570. I'm very impressed with mine. It was a huge improvement from the cc370. I see them on audiogon every once in a while.

I have some little rubber things I put on top of the stand. I didn't want the speakers stuck to the stands. I don't know why I just don't like sticking anything to them. I might end up using them but I'm not right now. Are you sure you want to drill holes in the speaker? That would hurt resale value.

Ok, so there is no provision for stand mounting. Interesting. They just sit on top.

Quick question - I have Studio 60 v5 fronts, ADP surrounds and Klipsch RC-52 center (one thing left to upgrade). I know I should be using a Paradigm centre as well.

Of course should be using a studio center, but I can get a really good deal on a used CC-390. Does anyone see any issues with this?

Rob

I had a cc370 with some studio 20s and it sounded good but not great. I didn't really get that wall of sound until I got a cc570. I would vote for the 590 over the 390. The 490 would match better than 390 but you might end up wanting to upgrade. I would even look at a studio 20 if you have room for it.

I have some little rubber things I put on top of the stand. I didn't want the speakers stuck to the stands. I don't know why I just don't like sticking anything to them. I might end up using them but I'm not right now. Are you sure you want to drill holes in the speaker? That would hurt resale value.

The Studio 10s come pre-tapped for mounting to a stand. Well, the ones I demo'd did at least...

Thanks. I bought a cc570 a few months ago to go with my v3 studio 20s. It's awesome. Unless you find him a great deal on a 470, I would recommend the 570. I'm very impressed with mine. It was a huge improvement from the cc370. I see them on audiogon every once in a while.

I have the cc570 myself and I love it. I haven't compared it to anything else from Paradigm. It was a bit too easy to see the upgrade in SQ from going from the POS Cambridge Soundworks center that I used to have. Oh, wait... I DID borrow another 20v3 at one time so I had three matching 20v3s up front..and that was of course excellent.

This video indicates the new Paradigm Shift brand will be for headphones, powered speakers, gaming headsets, and earbuds. I guess its better to diversify than be bought out by Audiovox.

The people in this video aren't gasping in pleasure like the MilleniaOne speaker people, but it's otherwise an interesting development for the company.

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The new website is here:

http://www.paradigm.com/shift/

Ok, so there is no provision for stand mounting. Interesting. They just sit on top.

My Studio 20s are mounted to my stands. Though I can't remember if the brackets and screws came with the speakers or the stands.

I'm happy with the piano black. I was originally going to get the cherry finish, but I photoshopped a mockup, and the colour wouldn't have matched the stand I picked out. I went with the piano black instead. Here is the mockup and the final result:

final result after everything arrived:
http://70.75.2.101/ParadigmS8/S8_system_all_grills_off.jpg

Beautiful, those speakers really are works of art. Thankfully they sound just as good (if not better) than they look.

I was looking at Titan Monitors + CC390 in front and they recommended to use ADP-390 Dipole as rears in a 5.1 set up ... But Will 190's be ok as rears ?

Ok, so there is no provision for stand mounting. Interesting. They just sit on top.

There's blue tacky stuff (I forget what it's called, but something like magic blue tack) & it works great for holding the speakers to the stand, but is removable without harming the speaker-just a little in each corner

I was looking at Titan Monitors + CC390 in front and they recommended to use ADP-390 Dipole as rears in a 5.1 set up ... But Will 190's be ok as rears ?

Unless you're trying to fill a huge space I don't think the 390's are worth double the price.

Why not just get a pair of these instead of the 190 or 390.
http://www.amazon.com/Infinity-C255ESCH-Switchable-Two-Channel-Surround/dp/B00199M5U4/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_4

I'm pushing 250w into each side of one of these and they perform like champs...

I can honestly say they are better SQ then the monitor series.... They are more inline with the Studio series.
Plus they are switchable between Monopole, bipole and dipole all in the same speaker....

http://www.shopping.com/Infinity-Infinity-C255ESCH-Cherry-2-Way-Surround-Effects-Loudspeaker-EA/info



Heres an interesting read on the CMMD cone - good reading material...
http://g-ec2.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/electronics/detail-page2/B00199M5VI_CMMD.pdf


I did a huge investigation back before I bought those speakers, and came to the conclusion that they were pretty close to the same products as the far more expensive Revel surrounds..... take a look at this thread (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1151637&highlight=), and then towards the end is another good link for surround speakers...

Quick question - I have Studio 60 v5 fronts, ADP surrounds and Klipsch RC-52 center (one thing left to upgrade). I know I should be using a Paradigm centre as well.

Of course should be using a studio center, but I can get a really good deal on a used CC-390. Does anyone see any issues with this?

RobI find used prices are only slight below new prices. I'd say it depends on what is a "good deal". Considering a new CC-490 can be had for around $550, how much are you really saving?

Just ordered a pair of Studio 20's, cc-590, and adp-390s! Can't wait for them to come in!

I know this isn't the receiver forum but I figure since it is the Paradigm specific speaker thread that maybe you guys could help me out on picking a receiver. I haven't done tons of research yet as I wanted to pick my speakers out first but now it is time to pick out a receiver so I will have to start researching a whole new topic. My budget is $1000. Do you guys think this will get me a good enough receiver to drive these speakers well? It seems like I have heard a lot about using a Denon receiver with Paradigm speakers so Denon is at the top of my list. If I go with Denon I think I would go with the 3311. I am also considering a Pioneer Elite, Anthem, or maybe Onkyo or Integra. I thought Anthem was new to the receiver scene and I'm not sure how they will prove in the long run but it seems like a lot of people really like them. They do seem a little pricier then the other brands I mentioned though.

Please give me some input as to what receiver would be a good match for my speakers or what you guys are using and if you like it or not. Thanks!

Personally Im not a big fan of onkyo/integra but that's just me. IMO I would look for the best in room correction feature. That would be either the Anthem or something with audyssey XT32.

Anthems amp section is extremely well built and very robust and their ARC room correction is very solid and has great performance
The Denon 4311 is the only unit with XT32. I know you stated $1k but just giving you my opinion.

Just ordered a pair of Studio 20's, cc-590, and adp-390s! Can't wait for them to come in!

I know this isn't the receiver forum but I figure since it is the Paradigm specific speaker thread that maybe you guys could help me out on picking a receiver. I haven't done tons of research yet as I wanted to pick my speakers out first but now it is time to pick out a receiver so I will have to start researching a whole new topic. My budget is $1000. Do you guys think this will get me a good enough receiver to drive these speakers well? It seems like I have heard a lot about using a Denon receiver with Paradigm speakers so Denon is at the top of my list. If I go with Denon I think I would go with the 3311. I am also considering a Pioneer Elite, Anthem, or maybe Onkyo or Integra. I thought Anthem was new to the receiver scene and I'm not sure how they will prove in the long run but it seems like a lot of people really like them. They do seem a little pricier then the other brands I mentioned though.

Please give me some input as to what receiver would be a good match for my speakers or what you guys are using and if you like it or not. Thanks!

Look at the Anthem MRX thread. The 300 model is I think to be 999.00 us. It will have the same sound quality, just be missing a few features and watts. The bundled ARC room correction get almost universally good reviews.

Just ordered a pair of Studio 20's, cc-590, and adp-390s! Can't wait for them to come in!

I know this isn't the receiver forum but I figure since it is the Paradigm specific speaker thread that maybe you guys could help me out on picking a receiver. I haven't done tons of research yet as I wanted to pick my speakers out first but now it is time to pick out a receiver so I will have to start researching a whole new topic. My budget is $1000. Do you guys think this will get me a good enough receiver to drive these speakers well? It seems like I have heard a lot about using a Denon receiver with Paradigm speakers so Denon is at the top of my list. If I go with Denon I think I would go with the 3311. I am also considering a Pioneer Elite, Anthem, or maybe Onkyo or Integra. I thought Anthem was new to the receiver scene and I'm not sure how they will prove in the long run but it seems like a lot of people really like them. They do seem a little pricier then the other brands I mentioned though.

Please give me some input as to what receiver would be a good match for my speakers or what you guys are using and if you like it or not. Thanks!

I would also give some serious consideration to the Marantz SR7005 check out the dedicated thread. Street price is close to your budget and people seem to be very happy with it. I have the pre-amp version the AV7005 and I came from the Integra camp...I am thrilled with the results with the Marantz.

I know Warpdrv does not care for Onkyo, but I have Paradigm Studios all over the house and they mate well with my Onkyo electronics. If you can stretch your budget a bit you might check out the Onkyo TX-NR3008. Good power, Reon-VX, HDMI 1.4a, Aydyessy MultEQ 32, and Internet features. Although I have not owned Denon for years, and I have never owned Anthem, I have seen enough positive comments on these threads about both to advise that you check them out also.

I thought Denon and Marantz are made by the same people? How are they going to compare to each other sound wise? Didn't know if one was a little warmer, better for music or HT...etc. I know people hate stereotyping receivers with words like "warm" or "bright" but I'd like to know how these stack up against each other (Denon, Marantz, Onkyo, Anthem, Pioneer). I guess if it gets into too much detail I may have to move this over to the receiver forum but I thought who better to help me with my Paradigm setup then Paradigm owners ;)

I run a Studio 690, a pair of 9se MkIII, a pair of Atoms, and two Mirage OMD-5 off of an Onkyo 5008. After getting a defective 5008 (bad video processor) my second one works like a dream and my system sounds very good. For your needs and price the 3008 is very close (newegg.com weekends) to your price range. The Denon 4311 is more expensive than your budget but does have the ability to do 11.2 (verses 9.2 for the 3008) and preamp mode for amps. Some owners though, are reporting issues with audio drop out/blue rain. I would recommend reading both owner threads and reading any professional reviews to see which fits your needs. Below I linked some previews of both. Going off of just both spec sheets, both are impressive in their own ways.

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/preview-onkyo-tx-nr3008-networked-a-v-receiver

http://www.audioholics.com/reviews/receivers/denon-avr-4311ci-fl

Anyone pair Studio 60's with a Millenia center channel 10/20/30? Looking for something replace my Studio CC in my new home as an onwall or in wall center channel, and I'd like front stage to be as close as possible to being voice matched.

Warpdrv is there any particular reason why you don't like onkyo/integra? Just wondering why you said that.

Personally Im not a big fan of onkyo/integra but that's just me. IMO I would look for the best in room correction feature. That would be either the Anthem or something with audyssey XT32.

Anthems amp section is extremely well built and very robust and their ARC room correction is very solid and has great performance
The Denon 4311 is the only unit with XT32. I know you stated $1k but just giving you my opinion.

I was just concerned about all the heat issues, not so hot customer service, and the clicking issue as well. Im not sayin they won't work, just issues that concerned me.

The Studio 10s come pre-tapped for mounting to a stand. Well, the ones I demo'd did at least...

Ohh ok. I saw two black circles on the bottom of my studio 20s but I didn't know what they were for. I figured it was some kind of mounting thing but I wasn't for sure. Yea That would hold them on there better than the little sticky things.

I'm snowed in so I couldn't think of anything better to do than take some pictures of my theater.

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af352/mjpearce023/Home%20Theater%202011/IMG_6640.jpg
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af352/mjpearce023/Home%20Theater%202011/IMG_6533.jpg
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af352/mjpearce023/Home%20Theater%202011/BuildingsTheaterFar.jpg
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af352/mjpearce023/Home%20Theater%202011/TheaterJokerside.jpg

Does anyone know how much money I can get out of a used CC-590 V4 center channel speaker on the used market?

[QUOTE=mjpearce023;19804730]I'm snowed in so I couldn't think of anything better to do than take some pictures of my theater.

Very nice !!! At Least your snowed in a nice HT !! :D

Does anyone know how much money I can get out of a used CC-590 V4 center channel speaker on the used market?

I'd say between 400 and 500 if its in perfect shape . I sold my cc-690 V4 for 900 on Audiogon but there hard to come by and I had good timing there was none around when selling mine :D

Look at the Anthem MRX thread. The 300 model is I think to be 999.00 us. It will have the same sound quality, just be missing a few features and watts. The bundled ARC room correction get almost universally good reviews.

I have been following that thread as well. Anthem and Paradigm are sister companies, so Anthem has tested out the MRX line with most of the Paradigm line. The Anthem tech guy that hangs out at that thread has mentioned that the whole Sig and Studio line has been tested to see how well the MRX 500 and 700 pair with them...

I have not had the time to demo the Anthem MRX line yet, but I will soon. I am very interested in it...especially the MRX300 which has not begun shipping yet(or at least wasn't last week). The MRX500 is 500 bucks more than the MRX300 and the differnences are 15 watts/channel more, additional USB music capability(play files from a USB drive or stick), and Internet radio... I think. I already have a WD HD media player to play digital music files from. The GUI for the Anthem is supposedly better, but I doubt it is worth 500 bucks to me. ARC is supposedly great, and my odd shaped TV/music room with windows and hardwood floors will likely benefit a lot. I currently have a NAD M15 pre/pro hooked up to Outlaw M2200 amps, but want to see how ARC will make my studio 60 v3s shine.

I'm snowed in so I couldn't think of anything better to do than take some pictures of my theater.



Ah very nice... Someday I will take a pic of my setup... It will be amusing for all to see that my listening position consists of two floor cushions because we haven't bought a sofa yet after moving to a new house in November. :)

Hey guys I have a setup as follows

studio 60s
cc690
studio 20s
sub 12

I have a RXV 1900 and am happy with video processing and the sound is fine but I think these speakers deserve a pre amp.

So my questions is the following would I get better sound out of a Anthem A5 or should I go with an XPA 3 and an XPA 2 from emotiva

I can get a smokin deal on the anthem stuff (which is nice) but money a side what would you guys do

thanks

Very nice !!! At Least your snowed in a nice HT !! :D

Thanks. Your theater is awesome. I love the look of those gold woofers on the klipsch reference speakers. I used to have some bookshelf klipsch and I took the grills off all the time. Those things got REALLY loud.
If Netflix would get some more 5.1 movies I wouldn't have been as bored today. I love streaming netflix but its really hard to find movies in 5.1.

I'm snowed in so I couldn't think of anything better to do than take some pictures of my theater.

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af352/mjpearce023/Home%20Theater%202011/IMG_6640.jpg
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af352/mjpearce023/Home%20Theater%202011/IMG_6533.jpg
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af352/mjpearce023/Home%20Theater%202011/BuildingsTheaterFar.jpg
http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af352/mjpearce023/Home%20Theater%202011/TheaterJokerside.jpg

Very Nice!!!
I was snowed in too. Actually, we came home saturday early evening from the city, and they closed the highway right behind us.
5 cars stuck at the end of the road this morning, so the wife had to stay home.
Big snowbanks in the backyard. Glad I picked up a couple dozen movies over the holidays, just wish I had my new paradigm stuff to watch it with!!!
I don't imagine this storm helped that cause at all.:(

Hey guys I have a setup as follows

studio 60s
cc690
studio 20s
sub 12

I have a RXV 1900 and am happy with video processing and the sound is fine but I think these speakers deserve a pre amp.

So my questions is the following would I get better sound out of a Anthem A5 or should I go with an XPA 3 and an XPA 2 from emotiva

I can get a smokin deal on the anthem stuff (which is nice) but money a side what would you guys do

thanks
Thats a tough one I love my Emo XPA-3 and XPA-2 but Anthem makes some great gear to . Hope that helped :p :o :D
Thanks. Your theater is awesome. I love the look of those gold woofers on the klipsch reference speakers. I used to have some bookshelf klipsch and I took the grills off all the time. Those things got REALLY loud.
If Netflix would get some more 5.1 movies I wouldn't have been as bored today. I love streaming netflix but its really hard to find movies in 5.1.

Much thanks man :) Im very happy with my current setup . Paradigm makes some great speakers to I really enjoyed mine !!

Does anyone know how much money I can get out of a used CC-590 V4 center channel speaker on the used market?

Based on my years of buying used Paradigm speakers including two CC-570 v3s along with v3 Studio 60s, v3 studio 100s, v3 Studio 40s, v4 monitor 11s, v4 monitor 9s, v4 monitor 7s, v4 monitors 5s, v4 mini monitors, v3 ADP-470s, and a few subs which also includes daily monitoring of Craigslist and audiogon.

I believe one would sell for close to $600-650. The CC570 v3 sells for over $550 sometimes.
Now I'm not saying that's the best price you could get, as there are always deals to be found. But it would be a reasonable one.

Hey guys I have a setup as follows

studio 60s
cc690
studio 20s
sub 12

I have a RXV 1900 and am happy with video processing and the sound is fine but I think these speakers deserve a pre amp.

So my questions is the following would I get better sound out of a Anthem A5 or should I go with an XPA 3 and an XPA 2 from emotiva

I can get a smokin deal on the anthem stuff (which is nice) but money a side what would you guys do

thanks


I have:

Studio 100
Studio 60
Studio 20
Studio 10
ADP 590
CC 590
2 sub 12's

I have a Denon AVR 4810ci with a NAD C275BEE Power Amp and the sound is unreal. I'm going to add one more NAD for the "wide" speakers. Before that I had a 7.1 system with the Denon AVR 4306 and that sound was also amazing. Just my opinion, but I really like the Denon stuff.

I have:

Studio 100
Studio 60
Studio 20
Studio 10
ADP 590
CC 590
2 sub 12's

I have a Denon AVR 4810ci with a NAD C275BEE Power Amp and the sound is unreal. I'm going to add one more NAD for the "wide" speakers. Before that I had a 7.1 system with the Denon AVR 4306 and that sound was also amazing. Just my opinion, but I really like the Denon stuff.


How are the sub 12's and studio 100's together? Waiting for mine still.

How are the sub 12's and studio 100's together? Waiting for mine still.

The 12's bring it all together. They can over power all of these speakers if you want them to. You can crank it loud enough to send the neighbours running, and it's still crystal clear.:D

Well, my speakers show up here thursday, but the subs are backordered.
Nice. Had I known they had no stock, I would not have pulled the trigger.
What a load.
Oh well, enjoy my 100's for a while.

Well, my speakers show up here thursday, but the subs are backordered.
Nice. Had I known they had no stock, I would not have pulled the trigger.
What a load.
Oh well, enjoy my 100's for a while.

Anticipation is part of the fun! You can still go to sleep at night dreaming of un- boxing them.....:-)

Ahh Sweetness.

Test,

I don't think Paradigm keeps as much in inventory as they used to. When I ordered my Signatures, only the front speakers were in stock. I had to wait for production runs of everything else, and even then it was sometimes several production runs before mine was done.

http://www.ultraaudio.com/twbas/pics/200909_pd_shipping.jpg

Yeah, they must be overdoing the "Lean Manufacturing Principles".
This will really let me compare my 100's to my current set-up. No other changes to account for. Should give me a good feel for the money spent. Then, hopefully when they are broken in and blowing me away, the subs will show up and add another level.
Only 2 more sleeps!!!:D

Very Nice!!!
I was snowed in too. Actually, we came home saturday early evening from the city, and they closed the highway right behind us.
5 cars stuck at the end of the road this morning, so the wife had to stay home.
Big snowbanks in the backyard. Glad I picked up a couple dozen movies over the holidays, just wish I had my new paradigm stuff to watch it with!!!
I don't imagine this storm helped that cause at all.:(

Thanks. I'm in Arkansas so I must have gotten the same storm you did. 5 inches pretty much shuts everything down around here. Gotta love the south.

Thanks. I'm in Arkansas so I must have gotten the same storm you did. 5 inches pretty much shuts everything down around here. Gotta love the south.

Yeah, we got about 8 inches, but the wind was 20-50mph for 3 days while it snowed, so some drifts around town were taller than my 4x4 Frontier. We have had our share of snow this year.

I ordered an XPA-2 for my 100's. My chi has returned!:D

I'm snowed in so I couldn't think of anything better to do than take some pictures of my theater.

I think you owe it to yourself to get a bigger TV. ;)

Anyone pair Studio 60's with a Millenia center channel 10/20/30? Looking for something replace my Studio CC in my new home as an onwall or in wall center channel, and I'd like front stage to be as close as possible to being voice matched.I would not recommend going with a Millenia center: they just don't have nearly enough bass to keep up with the 60's. If you can find a Studio Esprit Center, that would be the best option. They were discontinued a little while back, but some dealers may still have one.

Otherwise, a single SA-30 would do a good job as an in-wall option.

Or, if the house is still being built, an SA-LCR 3 would be great, but requires an MDF backbox to be installed inside the wall.

i need some speaker grills for my S4s and C3, where is a good place? i dont ever see them on ebay or audiogon.

i need some speaker grills for my S4s and C3, where is a good place? i dont ever see them on ebay or audiogon.

You will have to order them through a dealer or directly from Paradigm.

i need some speaker grills for my S4s and C3, where is a good place? i dont ever see them on ebay or audiogon.

I would email one of the dealers on audiogon and see if they will give you a deal on the appropriate paradigm stands for the S4's.

They are awesome stands and worth the extra $$

I think you owe it to yourself to get a bigger TV. ;)

I know. I posted some pics in the theater forum and I put that I planned to upgrade to a 50 inch plasma. I was told by several people that I need to go straight to a projector. It will be a while before I can upgrade but I think I might go the projector route. 100 inch sounds pretty sweet.

I don't think Paradigm keeps as much in inventory as they used to. When I ordered my Signatures, only the front speakers were in stock. I had to wait for production runs of everything else, and even then it was sometimes several production runs before mine was done.

http://www.ultraaudio.com/twbas/pics/200909_pd_shipping.jpg

This pic makes makes me drool

Well, my speakers show up here thursday, but the subs are backordered.
Nice. Had I known they had no stock, I would not have pulled the trigger.
What a load.
Oh well, enjoy my 100's for a while.

Too bad about your Sub 12. When I bought mine back in October I only had to wait 2 days....although it was a long 2 days.