I know this is being discussed in the other forum, but thought it might belong here since this product is expected to retail for $2,500.

Original thread :
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=558462

"LG takes wraps off world's first flat, wall-mountable DLP projector

LG Electronics has shown off what it claims is the world’s first flat wall-mounted projector.

The AN110 is designed to hang on the wall like a picture frame (it measures 443.4(w) x 254.2(h) x 92(d) mm including the outer rim), yet still manages to fit in a full projection array based around the new DLP™ .65 WXGA chip, complete with HD-friendly widescreen 1280x 768 resolution.

Other key features include vertical lens shift of +/-125%, x1/32 ~ x32 digital zoom; separate left and right digital keystone correction; a x1.4 lens zoom letting you enjoy, say, a 100 inch display from a 3.8m-5.3m throw distance; an automatic slide ventilator and auto slide lens shutter; LG’s noise-reducing Integrated Cooling and Noise Design; 1100 ANSI lm of brightness; a quoted contrast ratio of 3000:1; 4,000 hours lamp life; noise levels of 25db and under; and compatibility with 720p and VGA, SVGA, XGA & SXGA images when connected to DVD player, Digital STB and other digital AV devices.

This intriguing sounding projector will arrive in the UK in September, and be available in either half-mirror black or pearl white."

http://www.homecinemachoice.com/cgi-bin/shownews.php?id=8197

http://dvdbcko.dvdcritiques.com/upload/news/815/File1.jpghttp://dvdbcko.dvdcritiques.com/upload/news/815/File2.jpg

Open the pod bay door HAL! HAL! HAL!

Hmmm..come to think of it, if you put a CCR filter on the lens, it does look eerily like Hal9000 from 2001, :D

But I admire the clean design futuristic look LG has took. Hope other companies come up with innovative exterior designs as well. That'll give those Plasma crowd some competition in the "artsy-fartsy" department, :)

I think the whole "flat" concept is sensible for most non-dedicated HT room applications. The screen is flat, the speakers can be flat and now the PJ can be flat.

In fact, I think we're way overdue for the other links in the chain to get on the "flat" track; DVD players, cable/HD tuners and A/V recievers.

I don't see any reason A/V recievers, cable/HD tuners and DVD players can't be designed to be fully functional and user accessible while hanging flat on a wall the way this PJ does.

I'm somewhat suprised there isn't more excitement around this - it spec's out better then the mt700, is a dc2+ with better 4X3 (the 768) for computer/game usage and projected - by the manufacturer - to sell for less then any other 720p dlp - what's not to like?

@jsm88

You're right, I wonder... guess when there are more details people will probably sit up and take notice.

Cheers...
Duy-Khang Hoang

Though I do wonder about the design, you see projectors like the NEC LT150,HT410,HT510 have limited contrast as they employ some kind of prism array to get the projector the shape that it is. Or something along those lines (can't recall). To make a projector flat would require some re-arrangement and that may impact on overall image quality. If the projector is priced the way it is, with the features it touts and with the contrast being reasonable once calibrated, then we have something.

We still don't know what colour wheel it employs (LG's other PJ with similar brightness figures was employing a RGBWY wheel).

Also the resolution brings up a separate question, if it is really 1280x768, then it won't be exactly 16:9 anymore (I assume that the mirrors in DLP chips are always square given they tilt on their diagonal axis) and this begs the question of what happens with our screens that have dimensions of exactly 16:9. Of course the article may have got it wrong and it is a 1280x720 chip (can someone look it up, I've no idea where to look :P except to say that on the TI website you can search for PJs based on reso and there is no entry for 1280x768 reso).

Cheers...
Duy-Khang Hoang

Also the resolution brings up a separate question, if it is really 1280x768, then it won't be exactly 16:9 anymore (I assume that the mirrors in DLP chips are always square given they tilt on their diagonal axis) and this begs the question of what happens with our screens that have dimensions of exactly 16:9. Of course the article may have got it wrong and it is a 1280x720 chip (can someone look it up, I've no idea where to look :P except to say that on the TI website you can search for PJs based on reso and there is no entry for 1280x768 reso).

I believe that TI is going to be pushing these 1280x768 chips for business or mixed use because they can easily map 1024x768 from a computer for presentations, but can also be used in 16x9 mode with just a little bit of masking. It wouldn't take much zooming to go between showing 1280x720 pixels and 1024x768 on a 16x9 screen. I'll be surprised if there aren't at least a few other models introduced with the 1280x768 chips at CEDIA. With the InFocus X3 going to 1024x768, maybe the X4 will be 1280x768 at some point. But then, maybe somebody made a typo.

--Darin

Brochure (http://nordic.lge.com/sv/filedown.do?filepath=/download/product/0107/AN110/&filename=AN110.pdf)

It is 1280x768, 6-segment CW.

Scans of a UK press article discussing the projector and LG's marketing plan:

http://img307.imageshack.us/img307/4182/lgan11011sx.jpg

http://img306.imageshack.us/img306/567/lgan11035kn.jpg

My god that thing looks sooo sexy...

And 25db noise level is just too cool.

This thing looks like a winner to me and it caught me by surprise.

Chris

anyone else think that presentation is good for coffee tables too, keeping the PJ from food and drink spills and decreasing the amount of keystoning necessary?

btw, 10 points for the "HAL" catch above. righteous.

Just for kicks...

http://www.ee.ryerson.ca:8080/~elf/images/hal.jpg

:D

at the risk of repeating someone else - the 1280x768 is not a mistake - this is a new .65 DMD announced by TI in June. It is a DC2+, the same quality as the 7700 and mt700, with the added benefit of being able to map xga perfectly for computer and game use. Given the prices we've seen (and the smaller process) it appears to be much cheaper to manufacturers then the dc2+ in those other pjs - one can hope for a if4810 with this chip (and an x4) but given the way infs is going these days they might not be spending too much time thinking about new models.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that anyone who doesn't have a modern (dc2+) 720p pj out yet and who is closing out a lower resolution dlp (NEC, Infocus, benq) will be at least announcing one of these at CEDIA. Unless LG is truly hitting the bottom of the market, which seems unlikely given the design, I will further predict that at least one of these will be announced with a 1999 msrp and likely not much discount to the street

Very neat. I like the look and overall concept. Seems priced right as well. Looking forward to more details.

Just for kicks...

http://www.ee.ryerson.ca:8080/~elf/images/hal.jpg

:D


Hmm, four 10 inch lcds (maybe showing music playlists, available movies, one a touch screen as a controller... 10inchers are pretty cheap, mounted around it, a valence to match the case - now I just need some way to make the lens appear red and I have a truly geeky home mod that only my good friends would appreciate.

I may need to make new friends.

I'd just like to say personally, that yep, the specs on that unit ARE good...but I think that puppy is ugly. Not just ugly...that thing looks FUGLY to me. Kinda like a Dodge Magnum...sure that Hemi is powerful, but that's one butt ugly station wagon.

Although HAL is cool...not trying to tick off HAL...you hear me HAL? I think all HAL's are COOL!...now...can I please get my e-mail?

HAL?

Obviously a issue of opinion - I think it's nice looking, an answer to a question no one was asking maybe, but nice looking. Of course I think the Magnum is the best looking station wagon ever made, so we clearly have different views of beauty. Now, a ferrari dino - that is a fine looking automobile.

I think that LG is on the right track for this kind of projector. I think it looks sharp and may be just the thing I am looking for to use in my living room. Can easily sit in a bookshelf at the back of the room and look inconspicuous as opposed to having a box mounted on my ceiling or having to setup a coffee table projector and worry about drink spills, people tripping over cables etc.

Great idea.

all I have to add is
I WANT ONE!

my ht is my family room, and this would allow me to leave it up instead of taking down my pj when I'm not watching a movie. I can't ceiling mount as it's too high, and short throw pj's are pretty rare, so i have a temporary wall mount setup. T

This fits a nice market niche...

This thing is sweet, I can't wait to pick one up in 2 years for 999! ;)

I think it looks good, but like I said in the other thread, I will wait until it is wired up for final judgement on looks

I wonder how the cables connect.

I suspect you could run everthing in the wall and come out where the projector is mounted, virtually hiding everything.

my guess is the bottom, there are good pics of the other three sides, and we have the back here.

That is why I brought it up. I have seen to many components designed to look good without cables that look a mess once cabled.

Even if you use a conduit in wall if the cables are connected on the bottom and they stick out from the ridge, they will look ugly even if eventually they go in the wall

I am concerned that wall mount may be too restrictive and limits screen sizes. If your room is too big, you don't have the option to mount it closer to the screen like a ceiling mount.

I am concerned that wall mount may be too restrictive and limits screen sizes. If your room is too big, you don't have the option to mount it closer to the screen like a ceiling mount.

Well it isn't likely to be the last 1280x768 offering and given the form factor its not likely to be the cheapest one either. It should also push the two HD2+ machines down a little, if not in MSRP then in street.

Nigel

I would guess you could have a ceiling mount (hell, just make 4 holes in the table mount :) ), even cooler imagine one like the gym basketball ones that lifts and flattens the projector to the ceiling when not in use

ooOoo I can't wait for more info and reviews... and for other models to reach the market, 2k USD 720p DLP here we come.

Cheers...
Duy-Khang Hoang

i have been looking to pre-order this sucker.
has anyone found a way to do that?
thanks,
-r

Any news on this one?

That PJ is sexy. Specs look good. I'll wait until someone actually plugs one in before I pass judgement - but it sounds awesome and it's priced right.

Now I want to see how this effects HD2+ pricing.

Herm

does anyone have any new info? it should be coming out any time now worldwide. i would really like to find out more.

thanks for the help.
-r

I just spoke with LG US based customer service. Not sure if she really knows anything but she said unit will probably be in the US by the end of October. She also said LG is coming out with a total of 4 new models. Didn't ask if they were all similar design.

She suggested that I try to find LG Korea website or customer service to see if it has already been launched oversees.

mnbees

It was shown last week at IFA. It reportedly put out a very nice picture.

She also said LG is coming out with a total of 4 new models. Didn't ask if they were all similar design.



I know about two of them: one is the BN315 (720p) and the other the BF315 (Matterhorn). See photo and main specifications here (http://www.projektoren-datenbank.com/pdf/images/lgbn-bf315-1.jpg).

I know about two of them: one is the BN315 (720p) and the other the BF315 (Matterhorn). See photo and main specifications here (http://www.projektoren-datenbank.com/pdf/images/lgbn-bf315-1.jpg).
Grubert - Nice detective work. Looks like the specs on the BN315 are similar to the AN110 but with the traditional projector look. If the AN110 retails for less than $2000 as has been rumored, could the more traditional looking BN315 retail for even less???? The look of the AN110 may be too much to resist, regardless of the cost difference.

Did you inquire regarding MSRP for either of these? Availability date in the states?


mnbees

Speculation, like virtually everything else here, but: 1999 English pounds retail translates to a lot more than $2000-2500 U.S. retail; more like $3500+, with a slight discount for this market, which seems more realistic in light of the style and resolution and new chip. Still a deal, and still in this forum, but not a pipe dream. Of course I could easily be wrong, if LG has the production capacity and is looking to dominate the market...

is there any real difference in the US releases to models released overseas?
as in, why wouldn't i just buy it from the korean location and ship it here?
thanks.
-r

Speculation, like virtually everything else here, but: 1999 English pounds retail translates to a lot more than $2000-2500 U.S. retail; more like $3500+, with a slight discount for this market, which seems more realistic in light of the style and resolution and new chip. Still a deal, and still in this forum, but not a pipe dream. Of course I could easily be wrong, if LG has the production capacity and is looking to dominate the market...


Well, then, it's a damn good thing that the $1,999 figure was in Euros and not English pounds. For that matter, when was the last time ANYONE made a major electronics announcement with the pricing in Pounds? I didn't know Lucas made PJs. :rolleyes:

Funny, I just again looked at the linked article earlier in this thread and I could swear that it shows the pound symbol, which is like an L with a line through it, rather than the euro symbol, which is like a C with 2 lines through it, in front of the number 1999. Of course my eyes are getting old and the price did include VAT, which we don't have to deal with. And yes, I do know why the English drink warm beer.

Price is 2,999 euros in Germany, and 1,999 pounds in UK.

i was expecting to hear something about this at cedia, but i haven't seen or heard anything. does anyone know about the an110 yet?
thanks,
-r

I am wondering the same thing.

Anybody?

The 1999 pounds price includes the 17.5 VAT, excluding VAT it equals to USD 3102

Someone asked about news about the LG AN110 projector. On about 15 September 2005 I got an e-mail from LG in response to my inquiry. To paraphase, it said, "We don't have any information on new products."

My opinion is that it is worth waiting a while to get some reports from early adopters.

Well,
its out in Germany ;)

really?
is there a link to it somewhere where i can see the price and/or reviews in germany?
thanks.
-r

Yep, I actually posted one, but it was edited out. Just do a search on google using "LG AN110" and go into one of the german sites.

Search in google and restrict results to German language. ;)

Actually "LG AN110 EUR" will bring you right to them.

Ok, well, at that price with those specs this thing needs to be compared to the epson 550 and ae900 before I can make a buy - let's get on it.

I wouldn't consider an LCD over a DLP. I do see the rainbows but I think the overall quality with the faster color wheels is much better ;)

I don't think you can necessarily say that until you've actually seen the performance of the new d5 lcds - from the eyes of those who now they see very little difference between this level of dlp and the new lcds, and some of the differences they do see benefit the lcd. I am a dlp user that has to be convinced to go lcd, but the value/performance line is swining stronly in that direction.

I haven't seen the latest lcd ones I did see the z2 and was honestly expecting a lot more. Pricewise I guess this one might be on par or lower tham the projectors you mention ;)

Here's a link to some actual product pictures:

http://www.referenceaudio.com/LG-AN110.htm

I just wonder how the projector gets ventillation if its wall mounted. It must ofcourse be a fake wall but I guess its something to consider.

Wow... that is pretty slick. Thanks for the link. That screen is pretty cool too. I assume it has built speakers?

LG definitely seems like they are going for NYC loft crowd (or any big city for that matter) who don't have the space for dedicated theaters and to whom style is as, if not more, important that performance. I approve :D
-Matt

I haven't seen the latest lcd ones I did see the z2 and was honestly expecting a lot more. Pricewise I guess this one might be on par or lower tham the projectors you mention ;)

Well, the Z2, being two generations old, different process tech on the semi, and different light path, doesn't even bear discussion here. Pricewise, the LG will be coming in slightly HIGHER then any of the D5 LCDs, SLIGHTLY higher - which makes a direct comparison so important.

One of the biggest issues is that the 1280x768 dmd is likely to be DC2 and not DC3 as had been reported. a DC3 in this price range was impressive - a dc2 is expected.

This might be a good time for me to bring up an old idea I had:
take 3 XGA projectors, turn them sideways, connect them to a video processor that scales and splits the image, and run them like Cinerama projectors. With this projector that would yield an aspect ratio of about 1.6-1.7 without overlap, with plenty of room for a 1080p image. First question: is there any reasonably priced video processor that would perform that function?
But there's something about the idea of three of these hanging sideways on my wall that's hard to resist.

IBM

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HAL

hmmm.....

I'm trying to understand how effective the optics can be ?

Hey Neurotica,

On this site you can take a look at the optics:

http://prylportalen.mkf.se/ArticlePages/200506/16/20050616150418_MKF784/20050616150418_MKF784.dbp.asp

Thanks for the link.
I like the wallpaper edition....

ok....so I see how it makes the 90 degree turn.
I assume the optic diameter is similar to ther competitive systems. I wonder how it comapres to the optics on a Sony HS20.

Unfortunately I cannot read Dutch.....I can read German...close but not quite good enough to understand clearly.

There is some information and an english pdf on hcinema.de Sorry but I am restricted not to post url.

Händler Anfragen Den Projektor life erleben und Angebote einholen.
UVP Preis 3.000 €
Projektionssystem 1 x 0,65" DLP Chip
Ansi-Lumen 1100 / 700 im Eco Mode
Kontrast 3000:1 full on/off
Schwarzwert 0.37 min. Lumen
Offset Lens shift vertikal
Auflösung WXGA 1280 x 768
983.040 Pixel
SXGA 1280 x 1024 komprimiert
Videosignale Pal, Pal-M, Pal-N, Pal-60, SECAM, NTSC, HDTV 720p, 1080i, EDTV 480p, 576p
Einsatzgebiet Heimkino
Lampe 200W NSH
Lampenlebensdauer 4000 Std. 6000 Std. im Eco Mode
Betriebskosten -
Ersatzlampe Angebot für Ersatzlampe einholen.
Focus motorisch
Zoom motorisch 1,4
Objektiv f=24,3-34 mm
Projektionsverhältnis 1.84-2.57:1 ansehen
Audio Nein
Anschlüsse HDMI
D-sub 15pin in
Chinch Video in
S-Video in
USB
Deckenmontage JA
Stromverbrauch 280W
Maße BxHxT 443,2 x 254 x 92,2 mm (17,4"x10"x3,6")
Betriebsgeräusch -
Gewicht 4,5 kg / 9,92 lbs.
Keystone-Korrektur Vert.: +/-15°
Hori.: +/-10°


Frequenz H-sync: 15-100 kHz
V-sync: 43-120 Hz
Bandbreite max.: 230 MHz
Ausleuchtung 95%
Foot-Lamberts 45 fL / max. 337 cm Bildbreite
Candela pro m² 157.5 cd/m²
Besonderheiten Freeze
Eco Mode
Gamma-Korrektur
6 Segmente Farbrad
Digital Zoom
De-interlacer mit 3:2 pull down
Garantie -
Prüfzeichen -
Im Test -
Zu beachten -
Baujahr 2005 // Aktuelles Modell

:eek: :D Andy

LG should add some Solar panel on that large flat surface, so it can store up enough energy in the daytime, therefore no AC is needed for night viewing.


:D :D :D

If the add wireless plus solar panel then you need no cables at all! :D

The french LG site has a pdf spec sheet nothing new, except a very bored girl pictured there ;D

http://fr.lge.com/prodmodeldetail.do?actType=search&page=1&modelCategoryId=010702&categoryId=010702&parentId=0107&modelCodeDisplay=AN110+%28noir%29&model=NOTHING#

Indeed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/mayorgrubert/an110girl.jpg

She doesn't seem to be enjoying home theater very much. Reminds me of my wife when I made her watch Takeshi Kitano's Dolls. :D

If you look closely at the topside view there seems to be a removable cover. That is the likeliest location for inputs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/mayorgrubert/an110top.jpg

And notice the spec sheets indicates there are no separate component video inputs (component goes only through D15 socket), probably to use as little space as possible.

Maybe she is just dissapointed they didn't have the DC3 on it, nor the brilliant color wheel.

I believe the hatch opens automatically when the unit gets hot, so its more of a ventillation system.

Hey Grubert,

I found some pictures of the actual product, and from the first attachment you can see the wires are plugged in from the bottom. With the stand it would pretty much work like a flat panel display.

Cheers!
Alex

Anyone heard anything about this lately?

I've been searching and haven't found much. On a Spanish site they say they have talked to LG Spain and it will be out December 1st. I have however seen a few sites in France that claim to have it in stock.

I called LG in the US yesterday and the know nothing. :(
I really want to find out more about this thing, but to no avail.
-r

I wonder if they had to make any changes (like adding BC because of the Mits and Optoma).

This thread is another candidate for a sticky.

If this one had brilliant color, I'd probably pick it over the Optoma nad the mits, otherwise its going to be a tough decision.

According to LG reps in Spain this one should be out in 1st Dec. It sould be stick as well.

A sighting in popular science of this one with a US MSRP of 3500
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/bown2005/homeentertainment/5532aeff9f837010vgnvcm1000004eecbccdrcrd.html

The contrast ratio does not seem like it will be able to hold a candle to competition from LCD and other DLPs using the same chip (Optoma H72, Mits HC3000) which is a shame becase it has a really nice design.

You can download the manual now:

http://www.lge.com/support/manual.jsp

Select "Europe" and "United Kingdom", and then "Projector".

Thanks Gubert,

On Page 12 it mentions that you may see tiny black points or in colors (red, blue or green), Does this mean they expect dead pixels? :eek:

Another funny thing in the manuals it says it cannot actually be put into the walll for ventilation reasons, I guess it you wnat to do this you must have a thin fake wall and make sure air can get out of there. So much for the pictures showing it inside the wall.

The specs in the manual do not shed any light on what to expect from the projector.

The final specs for this one are out in the LG German site:

http://de.lge.com/prodmodeldetail.do?actType=search&page=1&modelCategoryId=010702&categoryId=010702&parentId=0107&modelCodeDisplay=AN110B&model=NOTHING

• Helligkeit: 1.000 ANSI-Lumen / 700 ANSI-Lumen im ECO-Mode
• Kontrastverhältnis: 2.500:1
• 0,65", 12° DLP-Chip
• Farbrand mit 6 Segmenten und 4-facher Geschwindigkeit
• Format 16:9 nativ / 4:3
• Geräuschemission: <28dB / <24dB ECO-Mode
• Rückprofähig
• 1.280 x 768 native Auflösung (WXGA), 16,7 Mio. Farben
• 200W NSH-Lampe (Lebensdauer: 4.000h / 6.000h ECO-Mode)
• Weitwinkeloptik (2,54m @ 3,8m ~ 5,3m Abstand)
• Autoposition & Autoscan
• Lens Shift & Digitale Keystone-Korrektur (V)
• Eingangssignal: PAL/SECAM/NTSC/ NTSC 4,3 / PAL M / PAL N / HDTV (1080i, 720p, 480i, 480p), VGA/S-VGA/XGA & SXGA (+)(Komprimiert)
• Eingänge: HDMI mit HDCP, PC D-Sub15 / Komponenten-Video, C-video, S-Video, RS-232C
• Leistungsaufnahme 260 W
• beleuchtete IR-Fernbedienung

In the specs it says a 6 segment color wheel with 4x speed.
I still wonder if they got brilliant color on it, but from the contrast ratings it looks like it doesn't.

Also now the stand is optional and t he wall bracket comes with the unit.

Thanks, AA.

However, on the LG Sweden (http://nordic.lge.com/sv/prodmodeldetail.do?actType=search&page=1&modelCategoryId=0107&categoryId=0107&parentId=01&modelCodeDisplay=AN110&model=NOTHING#) site it says it is 6x. Very confusing.

If it is indeed 4x, it would be a sign that the new 1280x768 panel only supports that speed (the Mitsubishi HC3000 is 4x), which doesn't bode well for the Optoma H72

Hey Grubert,

I agree, the 6x sounded like a rainbow buster to me. LG Sweeden has had those specs for quite some time. I think t he ones on the German site might be what will be put on the market because all the new headlines for this prijector now show a 2500:1 contrast compared to the original >3000:1 spec. Who knows maybe they are not inflating the contract spec as other may be doing. I have not read what the actual contrast is for the new mits, but I think it is more than 2500:1. Im counting on Optoma to release one qith a better contrast spec.

Video demo (http://www.grobi.tv/opencms/system/galleries/download/downloads/grobi_lg110an.wmv) (with a voice-over explanation in German)


XD Engine demo (http://www.grobi.tv/opencms/system/galleries/download/downloads/XDengine.exe) (with a lot of hype, but at least it says the AN110 has Pixelworks deinterlacing/scaling).

so who's going to volunteer to make a new version of the video demo and dub it in english? lol

A French forum member has posted his impressions. Here is a translation:



Against what I expected, the stand is not included. So I grab my drill, and two holes after, the projector is fixed on the wall, right above a small shelf. Really easy. I plug the power cable in, then I connect it to my DVP9000s via HDMI, I close the blinds and give Simone a spin.

The white walls in my living room limit the contrast, but I'm not going to paint it black anyway.

With a distance of 3.4m, I get a picture width of 1.90m. Not bad, considering my viewing distance is 3m.

Good points


It's really plug-and-play and it's well setup out of the box (obviously, I tweaked the brightness and contrast, as in any display).
Virtually no rainbows. It's really amazing.
The remote is well designed and practical.
The lens shift has a wide range.
The powered zoom and focus work well using the remote.
It's quiet, but it makes a little noise if the heating is too high.
Definition is very good. The Return of the King is amazingly detailed. Once the brightness and contrast have been adjusted, there is no crushing of blacks.
Pans are smooth, no stutters.

Bad points

Blacks are not really black. I've seen better... and worse.
Only three gamma levels (but that doesn't annoy me, as the blacks were already well-defined).
Colors lack a little punch (though the menu offers numerous color adjustments which I daren't touch yet).
A little color is lost in the shadows (which otherwise are very detailed).

The picture is at the same time very smooth and well-defined. I know, it's weird. Those who love digital and 3d images will not like it, but film-lovers will.


In general, the general picture performance is below the Mitsubishi HC3000, but it's better than most projectors at this price level. It does really well. Additionally, as regards noise level, room integration and rainbows, it is the best at the moment.

A quality product, undeniably.

I don't believe I've seen LG projectors for sale in the U.S. Is this a model that is expected to be readily available over here?

Any news on this one?

Evidently not. But INFS should have an offering with the same DMD early next year.

I like the form factor though.

A few stores in Sweden has it... I saw the an110 in Gothenburg this week and it looks really good!! Picture is the same as HC3000 maybe a little blacker, less dithering and noice level is the same.

Shovven

Hej Shovven,

Where you able to make a side by side comparison? I was actually expecting to hear it look worse, because of the differenced on the spec sheet. Maybe they are jusr being more honest about the specs and if it has better blacks, then it may be a contender :D

Yes I made a side by side comparison and picture quality is the same.. It shows less rainbows than HC3000 and picture is more stable... I think HC3000 has more punch in colours but the LG was right out of the box where HC3000 was calibrated.

Thinking of PQ, less rainbows, more stable picture (less dithering), design etc I think an110 is a winner

Will this one become a sticky???
the projector is out and it seems to be a conteder :D

Has anyone seen this one in CES? How about some more comparisons to the Mits and the H72 and IN76?

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=6876488&&#post6876488


I was extremely impressed with a projector few have spoken of, the LG AN110, a single chip 720p projector that is meant to be wall mounted on the opposite wall of the screen. It also was capable of excellent brightness and rich colors on a large 120" Vutec silverstar screen, and had little apparent rainbows, or eyestrain. Rumors of a $2500 MSRP proved to be wrong though, as the MSRP will apparently be $3500. Still an excellent buy.

Anyone know the throw, offset, and release date in the U.S.?

Hey Lambe,

new specs out on UK site:

http://uk.lge.com/prodmodeldetail.do?actType=search&page=1&modelCategoryId=0108&categoryId=0108&parentId=01&modelCodeDisplay=AN110&model=NOTHING

It now aparently has RGBCMY colour wheel.

If you go to support on the LG UK site you can download the manual, Im sure you can get more info from that. This one has vertical lens shift so the offset may not be so much of an issue as on other projectors.

"It now aparently has RGBCMY colour wheel."


That would explain why eyestrain was not an issue for me with this projector. I liked it better than the Infocus IN76 at the show primarily for that reason. Rainbows were also hard to detect. The Mitsu was a noshow at least on the floor.

If the street price is aggressive, I may not be able to restrain myself waiting for a 1080p projector, it was that nice...

Thanks for the link.

Very cool, powered zoom and focus.

The manual is here

http://gb.lgservice.com/index_b2c.jsp

The throw ratio is from 1.72 to 2.4:1.

Aside from the form factor (which could be either a plus or a minus) this seems to be the most fully featured 720p DLP in this price range.

Seems to have a poor dead pixel policy (pg 12. Listed as "normal")

"The projector is manufactured using high-precision technology. You may, however, see tiny black points and/or bright points (red, blue, or green) that continuously appear on the projector Screen. This is a normal result of the manufacturing process and does not indicate a malfunction."

RS-232 control...with specs. That doesn't seem commonly documented.

Automatic shutter on the lens looks nice tho' it may interfere with adding a filter. Can't tilt the projector more than 15 degrees or it shuts off.

All we need now is a US release.

Nigel

I went to CES to look at the 1080p projectors, but this one looked very cool and what a crisp, bright picture. I thought it was the best of the 720p models or maybe just under the Optoma H72. I took a couple pictures of it and screenshots . The screen looked pretty big, maybe 110" or so. It was plenty bright.

http://i50.imagethrust.com/p/196538/cespics2006day1and2102_jpg.html

http://i45.imagethrust.com/p/196539/cespics2006day1and2103_jpg.html

http://i42.imagethrust.com/p/196540/cespics2006day1and2104_jpg.html

http://i41.imagethrust.com/p/196541/cespics2006day1and2105_jpg.html

For some reason, I remember the screen size was 120" (but it could be post-CES blur). It filled that high gain screen with excellent brightness.

Hard to compare it with the Optoma HD72 as each time I viewed the 72 it was right after the HD81 which significantly affected the impressions of the HD72.

Glad to see others thoughts of this one were similar to mine. A real nice unit.

"All we need now is a US release."

There's a press release at projectorcentral

http://www.projectorcentral.com/news_story_877.htm

and it's been added to the pj listings, complete with link to get bids from dealers.

Nice. I guess its getting closer and closer.

I wonder what the trade-offs are with the L-type projection lens and the Reverse Type TIR Prism. Is 98% uniformity good or bad?

Nigel

Its nice to see some news for this projector statingto roll along.

It would be nice to see some professional reviews, as well as a spec confirmation on the unit becasue each LG country site has diferent specs for it.

I found some infromation on some german sites, for those of you who can read the language:

A first look
http://www.meinheimkino.com/thread.php?postid=42531#post42531

Confimation of Brilliant color wheel (RGBCYM)
http://www.videoaktiv.de/news_detail.php?idA=105&idK=5

For some reason, I remember the screen size was 120" (but it could be post-CES blur). It filled that high gain screen with excellent brightness.

Robert,

It probably was 120", I was just guessing at the size. Do you know what type screen and gain it was ?

It was a Vutec Silverstar, so that accounts partly for why it had such excellent punch on so large a screen...

Thanks. Vutec makes the Silverstar in 123" so maybe that was the size. I really like the SS. At the SS booth it was shown out in the open no booth with a matte white and gray screen on either side. Even there it was impressive.

"Is 98% uniformity good or bad?"

That's excellent, especially if true.

bump

Heh...hopefully no "bump" but "sticky" soon. From the few reports we've had from CES I'm looking either H72 or AN110.

Nigel

Thanks. Vutec makes the Silverstar in 123" so maybe that was the size. I really like the SS. At the SS booth it was shown out in the open no booth with a matte white and gray screen on either side. Even there it was impressive.
Just an FYI - The SilverStar is 120.5" maximum on the diagonal.

Hey Nigel,

Im also looking at those two projectors. The rgbcym color wheel on the LG seems to reduce the raibow effect, accoding to what I have read.

So where can we buy one? :)

I believe you can already order one from a European supplier, just do a good search because prices vary to up to 900 EUR from the 3000 EUR msrp. I have been waiting for some reviews, but so far all there is, is very positive comments from the CES showing. I'm thinkg of taking the plunge on this one. If I do, the I might be the first to review it :D

This is, finally, a major step forward in usability (and price, but that always follows behind). I would love a projector, but for two problems: where to put the damn thing, and where to put the cables for the damn thing.
This LG solves the first problem pretty well. Or should I say, this LG and its inevitable competition. This is bound to succeed because someone has finally figured out that only two small groups of people would spend $2k plus on the standard corporate-style projectors: tech-forward geeks who don't mind living with techno-boxes and cables on their coffee tables, and rich folks who don't mind hiring a contractor to come hide the things.
I personally have a Sony 32" hd that's only a couple of years old and has a great picture--but weighs 3 metric tonnes. However, it will serve nicely for the next few years while new generations of projectors come out that are more and more unobtrusive--and maybe even wireless?!??

I believe you can already order one from a European supplier, just do a good search because prices vary to up to 800 EUR. I have been waiting for some reviews, but so far all there is, is very positive comments from the CES showing. I'm thinkg of taking the plunge on this one. If I do, the I might be the first to review it :D

Too bad those European suppliers are not in English! I can't read a single word! lol

:(

Hey Xboy360,

I sent you a PM with a link to a british supplier, I'm pretty sure you can read that ;)

sweet pj :D

Hey Xboy360,

I sent you a PM with a link to a british supplier, I'm pretty sure you can read that ;)

Yup I can read that, but I can't register and buy it online, they need a legit UK address and I have no clue how the format for UK postal codes go! LOL

I've sent an email to them, let's see if they'll sell me it ..

I emailed LG USA and asked for a dealer and got this response:


Thank you for inquiring of LG Electronics. At the present time, we do not have information regarding the final specifications and details of the release date of this product. For further information on LG products, please visit our website at us.lge.com. Please feel free to contact us with any additional questions or concerns. Thank you again for contacting LG Electronics. Cyndi E-mail Administrator Customer Interactive Center LGEAI


Umm...I can understand the bounce back on the release date but the no info on the dealer part has me puzzled. I did find two dealers online that carry current LG projectors.

Perhaps I'll send one of them an email.

Nigel

Hmm.

Wonder why LG is dragging their feet on this one. It could be quite popular in many homes...

From your kind words Robert I am sorry I did not follow my instinct at CES....

I was so busy comparing the projectors I did know about that I missed this one completely... a little voice told me to go into the big LG booth as I was scurring back and forth from InFocus and Yamaha to Optoma, but ignored the voice due to time constraints.... you'd think at my age I would no better than that by now!

Hopefully Greg at WSR or some other reliable folks like CKL will be able to get there hands on one of these and review it for us.

Yup I can read that, but I can't register and buy it online, they need a legit UK address and I have no clue how the format for UK postal codes go! LOL

I've sent an email to them, let's see if they'll sell me it ..


Nope, so that online store in UK will not ship it abroad (to North America). So where can I get one now? :)

I was going to buy the Epson Cinema 550, but if I can get the LG 110, I would :D

Bump! Anyone hearing anything?????

From your kind words Robert I am sorry I did not follow my instinct at CES....

I was so busy comparing the projectors I did know about that I missed this one completely... a little voice told me to go into the big LG booth as I was scurring back and forth from InFocus and Yamaha to Optoma, but ignored the voice due to time constraints.... you'd think at my age I would no better than that by now!

Hopefully Greg at WSR or some other reliable folks like CKL will be able to get there hands on one of these and review it for us.

Sorry HiHoSteve, I didn't see this sooner,

The LG was rather hidden in a dark room in the back of their huge area. Not surprised there was so little mention of it from attendees.

I'd just like to add that it's so hard to compare dsplays in a setting such as CES.
The Optoma HD72 was in a different building than the LG. My impressions are that the LG was significantly better than the HD72, but the HD72 suffered greatly from being in the next room to the HD81, which it was markedly inferior to.

I totally agree that WSR should look at these two. I would love to see someone compare these two in a controlled environment. They could actually end up looking quite similar.

The LG is, though, much more versatile in placement...

Hey Xboy360,

I sent you a PM with a link to a british supplier, I'm pretty sure you can read that ;)

Can you please pm me the link to the British supplier.
Thanks.

Hi Mada,

I sent you a PM. I got mine yesterday. I will post some comments once I take a better look at it :D

Thanks for the link. Lucky you :p . Look forward to your review/impression.
Did you buy from the shop in the link you gave?

Hi Mada,

I sent you a PM. I got mine yesterday. I will post some comments once I take a better look at it :D


Terrific news AleinArchbishop,


Look forward to your review!

Hi Robert,
IIRC you have the HS51A. Do you still get the WOW factor when you saw the LG at CES?
How does it compare with the HS51A?

________________
Mada

Bump. Any news on a US release?

I had been waiting to get my DVI to HDMI cable before making my final judgement on the unit, so I will post below my impressions.

General
I got the white version of the projector, once you see it up close you can notice that the surface is not white but has a pattern on it, it is quite nice. (if someone PMs me how to upload pics I will do so). The remote is white as well and buttons are backilt which is a very nice feature.

Mounting
Although the reseller assured me it came with the stand, it only includes the wall mounting bracket. This is very easy to install but since I wanted to be able to move around it caused some initial problems. I tried to get it fired up to project against the ceiling to test for dead mirrors but the unit has some protections circuitry not allowing it to project when on its back. It also cannot be standing (leaning against something) without the desktop stand because it has an air inlet at the bottom which would get blocked. In the end I decided to go to IKEA and get a cheap shelf and use that as a temporary tall stand so I could move it around, and start my viewing. About the cable you will definately need a cable tray to hide them comming out of the unit so the mounting look clean.

Operation
Once I got the projector "wall mounted" and running. When the unit turns on, it automatically opens the lens lid and slides open the top part of the projector to allow the excess heat to leave the unit. This was a bit noisier than expected, yet cool. Once it is on, you can easily focus using the remote, which has the nice feature of displaying a white grip pattern with the words "FOCUS" in the middle to aid you with the operation. The zoom is also motorized which is another plus for this projector. The lens shift is located on the left side of hte unit and is quite practical, I did find it strange that it takes a bit slow to respond.

Image
The first thing I checked for was dead mirrors, fortunately non were found :D
The image is very sharp, I use as source my HTPC and it looked amazingly sharp even when only using the vga monitor cable. Then watching films the colours are quite punchy and the image is very 3D like. I have noticed that Yellow is not that easy for some DLPs to display (specially in the past), this one has some really good yellow the Simpson are yellow and do not have any greenish color :D
I also looked at Moulin Rouge, particularly on a dark scene where Kidman sings about flying away. My HT1000 could not really handle that one very well and would display some murky dithrered darkish red on the background, no problem for the LG. The Episode 4 (original starwars) looked like a brand new movie to me, the colors and black were right on. On the starfiels there was not RBE, but it was present on other scenes when there was and extremely bright object or a intense reflection and not necesaruly on a dark scene. So although this colour wheel was touted as a RBE killer it is not, I think it actually help portray the colors much better. The RBE is on par with the HT1000.

Minor Quirks
The silent lamp mode on the lamp does decrease the brightness, but does not make the fan go slower, so the noise remain the same, yet lower light output.

At the far left side of the screen, I cannot get it to focus withthe rest of the screen. This are is slightly out of focus compared to the rest, particularly on the top left. You can only notice this while using an HTPC and looking at text.

I have contacted LG about this and they tell me there is a new software to get rid of these problems. I will post news on this as it develops.

My last complain is the 220V power supply on the unit. All other projectors i have seen are universal.

Comments
As a whole, I am quite satisfied with the unit. Im sure these minor problems will most likely be fixed with the next firmware. The design an picture are great and I'm curious to see what new products LG has for us in the future.

Hi AlienArchBishop,

Thanks for your review.
At CES I could easily see rainbows (I could also easily make them out on the $10,000 Optoma HD81). The difference with these two projectors for me was the fact that no matter how long I viewed, I had no sense of eyestrain or effort in viewing. Do you have any observations about that with yours?


Could the focus problem be related to the lens shift? I've noticed this on other lens shift projectors...
Thanks again, and I am really interested to see this one hit the states.

Hi Robert,

I thin the focus is related to the optics, either to the lensshift or whatever is making he projector change the direction ofthe light path to make it flat. If I move the lens shift all the way down it can more or less focus all the image evenly but not as sharp, so you may be right. As for eyestrain, I haven't wathed it enough, but I did see the incredibles on sunday and I had zero eyestrain with that movie.

AlienArchbishop,
This is a goofey question, but does it look like it could be ceiling mounted? My room is 20' deep and the PJ would have to be mounted 16' back maximum. It looks like my best shot at a longer throw DLP.
Thanks

Hey Cheackster,

The units could be ceiling mounted, but unless you have a basement with low ceiling the image would probably be too high up. If you are not using the complete room you coulf made a large stand for it as I did.

Hey Cheackster,

The units could be ceiling mounted, but unless you have a basement with low ceiling the image would probably be too high up. If you are not using the complete room you coulf made a large stand for it as I did.

Thanks, AA :)
My current PJ is dropped 12" from an 8.5' ceiling to avoid a ceiling beam. I think I could fit the image. I was just trying to come up with a thought on a home-made mount. I'm sure I could engineer something. There is concern (in the >$3500 forum) about the aesthetics of cable routing. Is it designed to run cables from underneath the unit THROUGH the center mount and out or do you have any suggestions as to the feasibility of decent looking cable control?
Thanks

Hey Cheakster,

I dont think the cabling will be a problem, you just have to tie it tpgether and send it up between the back of the projector and the backboard you will use to mount it. I would be more concerned if it will fit the screen from that distance, you can ofcourse mount it closer and it may work. I put below a link to projector central were they have a distance calculator for the projector.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/LG_Electronics-AN110W-projection-calculator-pro.htm

Cheers!
the AA

Hey Cheakster,

I dont think the cabling will be a problem, you just have to tie it tpgether and send it up between the back of the projector and the backboard you will use to mount it. I would be more concerned if it will fit the screen from that distance, you can ofcourse mount it closer and it may work. I put below a link to projector central were they have a distance calculator for the projector.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/LG_Electronics-AN110W-projection-calculator-pro.htm

Cheers!
the AA
Thanks again AA
I had already checked the calculator. That's why I'm looking at this PJ as my DLP choice. The HD72 would be at ~12.8'(right behind the beam with questionable offset), and the LG is at 16.1' (with lens shift- much better :) ) At this point it's down to AE900 or AN110, either of which will be a killer improvement!!! :cool: I'm sooooo ready to pull the trigger and the Panny rebate temptation is working ;)

But has anyone heard from LG that they are going to actually produce a version of this projector that uses a 110v power source?

It is quite amazing that LG decided to go with a 220v power supply for this unit... it seems for years all of the computer equipment and projectors have been built with universal power supplies so that all that has to be changed is the power cord/connector.

But has anyone heard from LG that they are going to actually produce a version of this projector that uses a 110v power source?

It is quite amazing that LG decided to go with a 220v power supply for this unit... it seems for years all of the computer equipment and projectors have been built with universal power supplies so that all that has to be changed is the power cord/connector.

OUCH !!!!! :eek:
I guess I AM getting ahead of myself. Is there some kind of rule that there just HAS to be a "catch" or a "deal killer" every time you think you've found "THE RIGHT" PJ for the right price with the right features ??? ;)

OUCH !!!!! :eek:
I guess I AM getting ahead of myself. Is there some kind of rule that there just HAS to be a "catch" or a "deal killer" every time you think you've found "THE RIGHT" PJ for the right price with the right features ??? ;)


Allow me to quote directly from the LG brochure on the AN110 I got at CES:

Power:

Consumption: 280W

Voltage: AC100-240V, 50HZ/60HZ

FCC Class: B

Robert.............

Does the brochure say anything about WHEN it will be available in the US of A?

Robert.............

Does the brochure say anything about WHEN it will be available in the US of A?

Yeah! What he said!!!
AA, do any of the LG reps have any info on a U.S. A. release ????
Thanks

Hey cheakster,
I don't know any reps, but you can contact them on the LG website :D

cheers1
AA

Robert.............

Does the brochure say anything about WHEN it will be available in the US of A?


No, but the brochure is titled "2005 Projectors" :rolleyes:

Hey cheakster,
I don't know any reps, but you can contact them on the LG website :D

cheers1
AA

Well, here it is!...The answer to my question: when can we expect a release of the AN 110 in the U.S.? :(

Reply to Customer Enquiry------------
Dear Dan, Thank you for inquiring of LG Electronics. At the present time, we are unaware of the specifications and details regarding the AN110. For further information on LG products, please visit our website at us.lge.com. Please feel free to contact us with any additional questions or concerns. Thank you again for contacting LG Electronics. Neil E-mail Administrator Customer Interactive Center LGEAI
P.S. It WAS from that site (us.lge.com) that I posed the question

Well, here it is!...The answer to my question: when can we expect a release of the AN 110 in the U.S.? :(

Reply to Customer Enquiry------------
Dear Dan, Thank you for inquiring of LG Electronics. At the present time, we are unaware of the specifications and details regarding the AN110. For further information on LG products, please visit our website at us.lge.com. Please feel free to contact us with any additional questions or concerns. Thank you again for contacting LG Electronics. Neil E-mail Administrator Customer Interactive Center LGEAI
P.S. It WAS from that site (us.lge.com) that I posed the question

Yes, I have already had this conversation with Neil... he is about as helpful as a case of terminal hemorrhoids.

Arrrgggggghhhhh!

Yes, I have already had this conversation with Neil... he is about as helpful as a case of terminal hemorrhoids.

Agreed! Does he realize that he said he has no information, but that if I had any questions about his lack of information, to ask him again?? :confused: :confused:

I have posted this in the upper 3500 forum and may be of intered to Cheakster. Well I have done some re-calibrating using the Nokia test patterns and I found out that the blurriness is actually on the top 2 corners. I also discovered that this unit focuses perfectly when the the lens shift is all the way at the bottom. Which made me come to the conclusion that at this bottom position the lens shift is actually 0 and the then increases as the image is moved upward. I also was able to get a almost pefect focus close to the middle position of the lens shift.

That's good news, AA !
I'm sure you can gather from recent posts that there is NO info coming from LG on any possible future release in the U.S. :( Oh well! We'll do what we do best....wait...speculate...wait....slobber.....wait...wait.. .wish...gripe...wait, etc. etc. :D

Sad to say, Canada won't be getting one fairly soon either :(

What's taking LG so long to release one???

I have no idea, it was announced almost a year ago. That's why I didn't wait for a 1080p single chip dlp, by the time, LED DLP may be here :D

I will make my decision before the AE900 rebate runs out, but I guess I'm now looking at the Sharp Z3000 as my DLP hope. We probably won't know any more about it in time, but at least we know it IS going to be released here (April?) ;)

Maybe if we all kept calling. :)

Hi All,

I just checked out the spec sheet on the british site and it says the voltage is universal :eek:
http://gb.lgservice.com/index_b2c.jsp

check it out!

AlienArchBishop,
please, could you put here the distance in metric units between the wall and the lens once wall mounted?
I'm very interested to know in advance the more accurated throw distance that will be available in my house. :)

Many thanks.

We just finished our review (in german with over 50 pics):

www.cine4home.de


Regards,
Ekkehart, Cine4Home

Ekkehart, great review; OT are you gonna review Sony vpl-hs60 anytime soon? Thanks

Thus the projector shows a good contrast, a balanced color representation, little DLP artifacts owing to efficient control and fast color wheel, as well as a high resolution, which are suitable by 720p-HDTV for the loss-free representation.


This aligns with my observations at CES...

Ekkehart, great review; OT are you gonna review Sony vpl-hs60 anytime soon? Thanks


Yes, it should be online by next week ;)

Regards,
Ekkehart, Cine4Home

something must be screwed up with this hotel's internet access... I cannot access either cine4home's link or Bob's.......

Great review. I liked how this translated:

"This projector has it extremely easily to carry for higher aesthetic feeling of the female sex calculation."

What is Klettverschluessen? Is it the velcro-like plastic thingys (yes, very technical description) that lock together (just knobbed plastic, no felt)?

Interesting 45 degree light block. Unfortunately after section 1.3 google stopped translating. What did you measure the lumens out to be after calibration? I think I puzzled out CR to be 1500:1 at D65.

Nigel

Hey Aoshiken,

You can use the projector central calculator.

http://www.projectorcentral.com/LG_...culator-pro.htm

Cheers!

AA

Hi Ekkehart,

that is on one great review you posted. I have a few questions for you. I see that in your review there is no difference in the lamp modes as in mine. Have you tried out the new firmware for it? I received it late last week but Im now waiting form the null modem to upload it. Also, (my germann is pretty rusty) the actual colour wheel is RGB-RGB?

Cheers!
Alex

We just finished our review (in german with over 50 pics):

www.cine4home.de


Regards,
Ekkehart, Cine4Home

Nice job, Ekkehart.
Have you planned the english translation in a near future?

Hi Ekkehart,

that is on one great review you posted. I have a few questions for you. I see that in your review there is no difference in the lamp modes as in mine. Have you tried out the new firmware for it? I received it late last week but Im now waiting form the null modem to upload it. Also, (my germann is pretty rusty) the actual colour wheel is RGB-RGB?

Cheers!
Alex



You have a new firmware? That is very interesting, as our sample had some bugs as we mentioned. We had no infromation about what firmware it uses.

The color wheel is RGBRGB, yes.

Regards,
Ekkehart, Cine4Home

I translated parts of the review. What other glitches did you find?
According to LG the new firmware should reduce tha fan noise in the silent mode and correct some of the distortion (chromatic aberration) on the corners. I believe it can do the first but I doubt the latter. I should get my null modem tomorrow to load the new firmware and will post my finidngs.

Bob,

Do you still have that link to the translated page??

I used BabelFish and it did a horrible job... better than I could of course but still not really coherent.

Hi Hihosteveo,

The link was also to Babelfish so it was no better... I removed it as it didn't "stay"...

Hi Hihosteveo,

The link was also to Babelfish so it was no better... I removed it as it didn't "stay"...

bummer......

I need one of those learning devices like they used on "The Matrix" "Hey Tank I need to be able to read German!" :D

I have finally installed the firmware and the fan noise has been reduced, when in silent mode, the projector is now very quiet :D

The image is a bit sharper all around, but on the downside now it seems there are a 1-3 vertivcal rows of pixels are missing on the right side of the screen, when using the nokia geometry test patterns and one horizontal on the bottom. Lets see if they can fix this. I have only cheked this on the RGB input so far the HDMI may be ok.

Please AlienArchbishop,
post your impressions about the overscan as soon as you test the new firmware with an HDMI source. ;)

Many thanks in advance,

Alfredo.

After more time I notice that the folks at Cine4Home.de have english translations of a number of their reviews........

Here is hoping they put one up for the AN110!

babelfish failed completely for me. Google translated about half before stopping translation.

Nigel

Okay. I'm tired of waiting for the AN110 to be released in the U.S. If you are at all interested in this projector, I suggest contacting LG and letting them know.

I'm not sure if it will (can) make a difference, but it can't hurt. Here is the link to the contact form:

http://us.lge.com/contact.jsp

And here is the link to the original U.S. press release:

http://us.lge.com/AboutUs.jhtml?qs=au%7Cdetail%7Cpress%7Cpressdetail%7C0000000 001%7C248

I really would like to see the ball start rolling on the PJ.

Hey Nigel,

I was translating section by section, it the only way to get through the whole thing ;)

bummer......

I need one of those learning devices like they used on "The Matrix" "Hey Tank I need to be able to read German!" :D

...or stick a babelfish in your ear... ;)

Okay. I'm tired of waiting for the AN110 to be released in the U.S. If you are at all interested in this projector, I suggest contacting LG and letting them know.

I'm not sure if it will (can) make a difference, but it can't hurt. Here is the link to the contact form:

http://us.lge.com/contact.jsp

And here is the link to the original U.S. press release:

http://us.lge.com/AboutUs.jhtml?qs=au%7Cdetail%7Cpress%7Cpressdetail%7C0000000 001%7C248

I really would like to see the ball start rolling on the PJ.


It's frustrating as it could conceivably be the one 720 DLP with full installation flexibility to street somehwere in the $2K range.

It threw a very nice image at CES. One thing I noticed was that the large image looked very slightly out of focus. Wonder if it just wasn't focused sharp or if the lens shift contributed to a little lack of sharpness...

Nice job, Ekkehart.
Have you planned the english translation in a near future?


Google translated version:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cine4home.de%2Ftests%2Fprojekto ren%2FLG-AN110%2FAN110Test.htm&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

All the interesting stuff is still in German; don't know if it can be fixed.

bump, will this ever become sticky? the infocuses are not out and they got a sticky.

Any news about the overscan with HDMI source?

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Hi Aoshiken,

I did try it with the HDMI and it was missing only the bottom line. I also tried it with another PC and the results varied. I think I need to use powerstrip to set it right, but so far I am having problems with it, it seems to conflict with the ATI drivers. The silent mode is still buggy, you have to go in an put in high lamp mode and then back to silent to get it working. I've complained about it to the appointed sevice center, but they want me to send in the unit instread of sending me a new firmware. I think I should contact LG directly for a new firmware.

Hi Ekkehardt,

Since you've opened up your projector for your test could you confirm if the powersource is universal or only 220 volts? I think this could help our friends in America. I would also like to know in case I relocate at some point.

Hi Ekkehardt,

Since you've opened up your projector for your test could you confirm if the powersource is universal or only 220 volts? I think this could help our friends in America. I would also like to know in case I relocate at some point.


We did not check for 110V (as so far this was never of interest for our readers), but the technical data-sticker on the machine is not promising.

http://www.cine4home.de/tests/projektoren/LG-AN110/strom.jpg


So it seems not to be universal :mad:


Regards,
Ekkehart, www.Cine4Home.de

Thanks for cheking Ekkehart!
I was a bit dissapointed about that too. I was hoping I could take it to the US at some point.
The funny thing is that in the tech specs from LG it does state 110-240V.

Thanks for cheking Ekkehart!
I was a bit dissapointed about that too. I was hoping I could take it to the US at some point.
The funny thing is that in the tech specs from LG it does state 110-240V.

There are step-down transformers. ;)

Also, whereas plugging appliances designed for 110V on 220V power outlets can be very dangerous (see Top Secret), I don't think you can damage anything by connecting a 220V device on a 110V socket. Worst case, it won't power up.

Has there been any other news with respect to the unit's release in the US? So much for the universal factor. It seems odd that they would not release it here, particularly after the relative fanfare.

Maybe no news is good news this time.

Dino

Update:

The overscan that I reported with the new frimware is not a problem. I found a function in on of the menus, that allow you to center the screen correctly :D

The only thing I can see as a "bug" now is that you have to go in to the menu every time to deselect and reselect the silent mode to lower the fan speed. The silent mode is very, very quiet.

After some about 100 hours of use with this projector I am very happy with it :)

Hello,
I have this projector since 2 weeks and i so very happy.
first impressions:

good:

-picture very good with player pionner 668 hdmi (576p) compare to my old sim2 domino 20 :)
-silent mode very quiet after upgrade firmware (thanks alienarchbishop for files) but bug ,you must deselect and reselect.
- price low
-lens shift vertical
-no overscan in hdmi

bad:
support lg (no files to upgrade for the new firmware ,you must send the projector to a service center for upgrade) :(

jp.

Also bad: not available in the US. :)

Don't they want my cash??? :)

Apparently not, I don'tget why LG has not released it in the US, it would be selling pretty good considering the installation problems the competition has in this price range.

Bah! Every time this thread gets updated I get my hopes up. I *REALLY* wish they would release this thing in the U.S.

-- jaydillyo

I know, I got all excited too. I decided to send them a short e-mail. Can't hurt to show interest.

customerservice@lge.com

Is CES a US-only show, or is it international? I know, a n00b question for somebody who has lurked at AVS as long as I have. But I noticed they showed it off at CES in January.

Just have seen this PJ for less than 2K...
Which 720p DLP projector comparable in same price?

this projector is flat unlike any other model and i question myself that maybe choosing between white and black model is not only a taste matter, because maybe the white one body will act as a reflector for the scattered light around the lens and that

could be good cause you would be getting more light routed to the screen so more contrast and lumen.

or could be bad as this light is scattered in a non ordered way so it just would add more bright to picture but reduce contrast and definition, in this case black model would be the best performer as it flat body wont reflect any ligh around the lens (think about it as those umbrellas photogrraphers put around studio lamps so they dont loss any scattered light and it is all routed to the desired object)

so is my theory wrong, does it really matters if you choose this model in white or black does it affect image quality.

Anyone knows how I can change the front plate?
I`ve bought this projector, and got a black frontplate seperate. But I dont dare use brute force to try and get the white plate off!!

On the backside of the black frontplate, there is some sort of velcro!!

To pekingua

There is one store in Norway in which Ive seen both the white AND the black frontplate is included when its bought (I bought mine from there).
Both the white and black frontplate is very "shiny" and both will reflect some light.. So although you buy the black one, your problem isnt completely fixed (unless you paint it/glue some black velvet to it)

There is also a little light leaking from the airvent.. So 100% light control can be hard to achieve.

The LG an110, has reappeared at CES, 8 January 2007, and appears in a photo taken by Tryg, along with a positive comment on his impression of the picture it produced. See his post#1 on the over $3000 forum, ""CES 2007! Viva Las Vegas!
Are we going to get access to this unique piece of equipment this year?

Am I the only remaining forum reader who is interested in the Lg an110 projector?
Where did the other 198 commenters and 24,103 readers go that showed such interest in this, flat to the wall technology after it was announced last year at this time?
More important who do we have at CES that will go to LG and pursue this product?

I dont understand why this pj doesnt get more attention..

I`d believe wall mounted projectors should become very popular. Especially when they can produce such a picture quality like the AN110.
In my opinion, this is the only PJ that could fit into a livingroom without pointing itself out.
All other pj`s are clumpy boxes, that usually finds their place dangling from the roof..

Ive had my AN110 for a half a year now, and Im very satisfied with its performance..

I think it's because no one in the states could actually buy one. I would have jumped on this a year ago, but now I'm happily enjoying my HD1000U for a fraction of what the LG would have cost.

Hi!

I read the german review at www.cine4home.de (super review, wish more reviews were as detailed!!), but my german isn't that good, so I just want to clarify:

You DO get a 100% 1:1 pixel mapped 16:9 picture if connecting a HTPC to the AN110 via HDMI and set the resolution to 1280x720? With some black bars on top and bottom, since the panel is 15:9 at 1280x768? And also, if the resolution is set to 1024x768, is the picture also 1:1 pixel mapped with black bars on the sides instead of top and bottom? Is this also possible via HDMI?