Confirmed Movies in HD:
Ali
Along Came a Spider
American Beauty
American President, The
Anaconda
Anacondas: The Hunt for the Blood Orchid
Animatrix, The (OAR)
Art of War, The
Bachelor, The
Bad Boys
Blast from the Past
Ben Hur
Blade (once in HD)
Blade II
Blade:Trinity
Blue Streak
Call Me Claus
Christmas Carol
Christmas Story, A
Cliffhanger
Cradle to the Grave
Craft, The
Color Purple, The
Crossfire Trail
Deep Blue Sea
Demolition Man
Desperado
Devil's Advocate, The
Divine Secrets of the YaYa Sisterhood
Dollar for the Dead
Domestic Disturbance (OAR)
Donnie Brasco
Door to Door
Dreamcatcher
Driven
Eight Legged Freaks
Enemy at the Gates
Ever After
Evil Kinevil
Exit Wounds
Fifth Element, The
Fire Down Below
Forrest Gump
Framed
Fugitive, The
Girl, Interrupted
Gladiator
Glimmer Man
Gone with the Wind (OAR)
Goodbye Girl, The
Hard to Kill
Hardball
Monte Walsh
House on Haunted Hill
I Am Sam
In the Line of Fire
Jack Frost
Jerry Maguire
John Q
Jumanji
Kill Bill 1 and 2
Knight's Tale
Lara Croft: Tomb Raider
Last Stand at Saber River
Legally Blonde
Lethal Weapon 2
Lethal Weapon 4
Librarian - Quest for the Spear, The
Lord of The Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring, The
Lord of The Rings: The Two Towers, The
Mask, The
Matrix, The
Matrix Reloaded, The
Maverick
Mean Girls
Men in Black
Mists of Avalon, The
Mr. Deeds
Miss Congeniality
Mothman Prophecies, The
Murder at 1600
Negotiator, The
Noel
Ocean's Eleven
Open Range
Panic Room
Patriot, The
Payback
Perfect Murder, A
Perfect Storm, The
Philadelphia
Pleasantville
Proof Of Life
Purgatory
Riders of the Purple Sage
Romeo Must Die
Rules of Engagement
Runaway Bride
Rush Hour
Rush Hour 2
Salem's Lot
Saving Private Ryan
School of Rock
Score, The
Shaft
Sleepless in Seattle
Snake Eyes
Spiderman
Specialist, The
Stepmom
Sweet November
Swordfish
Thirteen Days
Thomas Crown Affair, The
Three Kings
Thunderheart
Time to Kill, A
Titanic
Tommorrow Never Dies
True Crime
Trapped
Truman Show, The
Turbulence
Twister
U.S Marshals
Under Siege 2
Underworld
Unforgiven
Van Helsing
Walking Tall
We Were Soldiers
Wedding Planner, The
Wedding Singer, The
What Women Want
Wild Wild West
Wizard of Oz, The (OAR)
Wool Cap
You've Got Mail





Confirmed Movies NOT in HD:


6 Days, 7 Nights
A Civil Action
A Walk to Remember
Adams Family Values
Aliens
American Beauty
Analyze This
Angel Eyes
Armageddon
As Good As It Gets
Austin Powers- The Spy who Shagged me.
Back to the Future
Back to the Future II
Bad Moon
Bait
Batman
Bed of Lies
Beverly Hills Ninja
Bloodsport
Bodyguard, The
Boys on the Side
Chill Factor
Clear and Present Danger
Copycat
Crazy/Beautiful
Crow, The
Dances with Wolves
Day My Parents Ran Away, The
Dead Presidents
Deadly Intentions
Death Becomes Her
Deep Impact
Disclosure
Disturbing Behavior
Double Team
Dracula 2000
Dragon: the Bruce Lee Story
Drumline
EDtv
Ella Enchanted
Encino Man
Entrapment
Eraser
Erin Brockovich
Fair Game
Fatal Attraction
First Knight
Fried Green Tomatoes
From Dusk till Dawn
Fools Rush In
General's Daughter, The
Ghostbusters
Ghosts of Mars
Gone in 60 Seconds
Good Morning, Vietnam
Grumpier Old Men
Hook
I Know What You Did Last Summer
Jaws
Jersey Girl
Johnny Mnemonic
Jurassic Park III
Juror, The
Legend of Bagger Vance
Life
Little Nicky
Long Kiss Goodnight
Malice
Major League II
Mars Attacks!
Mask of Death
Medicine Man
Mickey Blue Eyes
Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil
Misery
Moonstruck
Mortal Kombat
Mummy, The
My Stepmother is an Alien
National Lampoon's Christmas Vacation
National Security
Net, The
Night Sins
O Brother Where Art Thou
Others, The
Overboard
Passenger 57
Pay it Forward
Postman, The
Presumed Innocent
Pretty Woman
Rain Man
Random Hearts
Red Heat
Reign of Fire
Reindeer Games
Remember the Titans
Rocky
Rocky II
Rudy
Running Man, The
Scream3
Scrooged
Se7en
Serendipity
Shanghai Noon
She's All that
Signs
Sliding Doors
Snow Day
Spaceballs
Stir of Echos
Stripes
Starship Troopers
Star Trek: Insurrection
Sugar and Spice
Summerschool
To Die For
Turner & Hooch
Unfaithful
Urban Cowboy
Valentine
Whole Nine Yards, The
Without Her Consent
Windtalkers
Year of the Yao



Movies needing further confirmation:


A Few good Men
Mask, The
Mask of Zorro, The
Pelican Brief, The
Specialist, The
Truman Show, The

Gone With The Wind

I dont know.. what do you all think?

I think it would be great. Are you confident that you can spot HD versus a good upconvert?

I think it would be great. Are you confident that you can spot HD versus a good upconvert?On TNT HD, it should be easy, since anything from a film transfer that's not stretched is native HD.

it would be nice to have this as a sticky or something and have a master TNT-HD movies list, so that people dont randomly start threads asking if a movie is HD or not until TNT gets it through their heads to either stop false advertizing all movies as HD or do like HBO and air essentially all their movies as they claim...

HD or not their hacked up.Would'nt waste my time.

Okay, I'll bite.

To my best recollection movies in HD on TNT-HD:

U.S. Marshalls
The Fugitive
Gladiator
John Q
The Matrix
Demolition Man
The Negotiator
Saving Private Ryan
Enemy at the Gates
Fifth Element
Gone in 60 Seconds
Ocean's Eleven
HEAT
Thunderheart
Tomorrow Never Ends

ok, charles thanks for the info, i added a couple i knew to the list. Mods, is this thread appropriate for a sticky? I'll try to update this every weekend or as people report the movies in...

I don't recall Gone in 60 seconds and Heat being in HD, because I always flip over when i see either of those on the schedule and every time, i'm disappointed to see it stretched and upconverted.

However, you can add --

Donnie Brasco(playing right now) -- it was shown 16:9 and not its OAR 2.35:1, but I believe it is open matte because the picture looks VERY VERY sharp.

The Pelican Brief(remember this one and it was HD)

Theres a list here http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=533094&highlight=tnthd+show+besides

Confirmed Movies in HD: [COLOR=Green][B][I][SIZE=3]

Gone in 60 Seconds
Mask, The
Pelican Brief, The
Specialist, The

Hi, I know there are a lot of you who couldnt care less about non OAR, edited for time/content HD that TNT sometimes provides. But I am one (hopefully not the few) that does turn on to check if many of the movies they do show on the weekends to see if its HD or not. I was wondering if there was any interest to have a master thread to report what movies TNT shows are in HD and then post it to the top of the list. that way, when they repeat, someone can just check the thread to see if the movie listed as been already shown in HD or not on TNT.

I dont know.. what do you all think?

First I tried a list like this about a year ago. Clearly you don't see it as I guess no one did care to keep adding to the confirmed sightings. Judging from the post directly above, this has been tried multiple times now.

Secondly, when did TNT-HD get HD versions of the 4 movies above. I haven't paid great attention, but the last showings I saw of the above clearly were Stretch-O-Vision.

yeah, sorry i didnt see your thread, but i'm willing to put forth the effort and update it as required. We will put astericks or something next to movies we suspect as being HD or not. It would be helpful if this, or another thread was made a sticky at posted to the top.

I can confirm The Pelican Brief....the few times i've flipped over to it, it's been HD.

I didn't even know that TNT was showing The Animatrix, in HD nonetheless! ..would love to see them play that again some time.

Okay, I'll bite.

To my best recollection movies in HD on TNT-HD:

U.S. Marshalls
The Fugitive
Gladiator
John Q
The Matrix
Demolition Man
The Negotiator
Saving Private Ryan
Enemy at the Gates
Fifth Element
Gone in 60 Seconds
Ocean's Eleven
HEAT
Thunderheart
Tomorrow Never Ends

Blade II
Dances With Wolves

dances with wolves wasnt in HD

dances with wolves wasnt in HD

Yes it was. Saw some of it last night.

I DVR'ed the entire Seagal marathon a couple of weekends ago (why I don't know) lol.

Above the Law and On Deadly Ground both looked like HD, iow the same quality as your listed Fire Down Below.

Now what would be nice if could keep this thread updated as to when some of the listed movies might be shown again.

this was the problem in the previous threads if you go searching. Major debate about what was or wasn't in HD. Few can compare the HD and SD feeds when there is a debate - and it also showed me why 14 Million will accept SD programming stretched on their new HDTV with no HDTV service.

It would be helpful if this, or another thread was made a sticky at posted to the top.Not going to happen. This is just normal stuff. Bump as necessary.

First I tried a list like this about a year ago. Clearly you don't see it as I guess no one did care to keep adding to the confirmed sightings. Judging from the post directly above, this has been tried multiple times now.Bing!

well i thought the whole point of a thread like this would be to keep from cluttering up this place from unnecessary threads that start out asking "is xxxx in HD on TNT?". Obviously the mods dont see the value in sticking this thread and prefer the usual chaos. Had the other thread HDTVFanAtic started been a sticky, i wouldnt have started this one and added to the unecessary waste of bits. So, whatever... RIP.

this was the problem in the previous threads if you go searching. Major debate about what was or wasn't in HD. Few can compare the HD and SD feeds when there is a debate - and it also showed me why 14 Million will accept SD programming stretched on their new HDTV with no HDTV service.

Absolutely. I was amazed at how much difficulty so many had with determining if the picture was stretched (SD). You have to give credit to TNT HD for having the ability to snow so many people into thinking many of their movies and other shows were HD when in fact they were stretched SD. TNT has dealt a major blow to HD by demonstrating to every provider how easily it is to fool the viewer into thinking they are watching quality HD when if fact they aren't.

well, whatever is on TNT-HD, its a lot nicer than whats on TNT-SD. even if it is a cleaned up RGB feed of whatever the SD movie is, but competition principles and market forces will eventually make all channels format and display content in HD

Obviously the mods dont see the value in sticking this thread and prefer the usual chaos.If it was at all worthwhile, others would have kept the previous topics alive. They didn't.

Blue Streak (Martin Lawrence) is HD.

Ok, I am *very* sure Blue Streak was NOT in HD. I did numerous checks back and forth and it was just cropped.

This was OBVIOUSLY HD. HD can be cropped. :rolleyes:

are you saying it was an HD transfer and cropped from the 4:3 SD frame? that doesnt make much sense nor does it seem consistent with what TNT has done with other films...

It was 16:9 HD, no stretching.

ok, added... under protest :)

Sheesh folks. Blue Streak was excellent HD and there was no cropping or zooming because the OAR of the movie is 1.85:1

Maybe do a little more research next time...

WTF??? There was insane cropping! Blue Streak is one of my favorite Martin Lawrenece movies and I kept switching between the HD and SD feed... the desert scene didnt look at all like it was sharp/clear as HD usually is. And there was definitely cropping between the HD and SD versions. I dont know, 2:1... i put it on the list but no cropping? please...

blue streak was not cropped ...bgall is right.

http://imdb.com/title/tt0181316/dvd

ok, what about Twister? I say NO to HD... what do you all think?

ok, what about Twister? I say NO to HD... what do you all think?

You can't tell? I don't watch movies on TNT HD because of the obnoxious persistent logo, the commercials, the edited content, and the butchered aspect ratios, but I quickly checked this movie because I couldn't believe that it's presentation wouldn't be obvious. What criteria do you use to distinguish HD from stretched SD on TNT HD? What display are you viewing?

i'm not telling becuase you'll laugh probably. Anyway, I kept flipping back and forth between the HD and SD feed and the aspect ratio seemed to be the same, except the HD was 4:3 cropped... Some scenes looked really really good, and others looked "SD soft" like Se7en. So based on that I concluded it was SD. but i'm doubting my own confidence now sine you guys seem to be very adamant that many movies i was convinced were SD, are indeed HD...

Any movie that isn't stretched is HD. It's not that complicated.

Movies not in HD that aired last night:

Urban Cowboy (also, not OAR)

Rain Man

Thats it... I cant take it anymore....

WHAR DOES "OAR" STAND FOR???????

Someone, for the love of God, PLEASE answer my question........

Thats it... I cant take it anymore....

WHAR DOES "OAR" STAND FOR???????

Someone, for the love of God, PLEASE answer my question........"Original Aspect Ratio"

"Original Aspect Ratio"

THANK YOU!

maverick was excellent quality....

I dont understand why Maverick was in HD and Se7en wasnt. Shame

A Few Good Men was on last night and personally, it looked really nice. I don't have a DVD of it to compare quality and/or aspect ratio but what is the opinion of that movie ??

If so, this would be the first true HD showing of a few good men on TNT - as it was clearly Stretch-o-vision earlier in July and every showing prior to that .... however, as they have shown it this many times in stretch-o-vision, I doubt its in true HD now.

i'm not telling becuase you'll laugh probably. Anyway, I kept flipping back and forth between the HD and SD feed and the aspect ratio seemed to be the same, except the HD was 4:3 cropped... Some scenes looked really really good, and others looked "SD soft" like Se7en. So based on that I concluded it was SD. but i'm doubting my own confidence now sine you guys seem to be very adamant that many movies i was convinced were SD, are indeed HD...


Twister was one of the first true HD movies on TNT.

the art of war is HD..

Shaft in hd

updated

I can confirm that Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil was in SD stretch-o-vision.

indeed it was, I was going to update this thread myself, cant believe you stayed up just for that to check on that too!

the negotiator was excellent HD quality though. I'm sure Ali will be equally as good tonight.

The negotiator looked cropped to me..A lot of shots were claustrophobic, similar to what you see from hbo's crop-o-vision((like the one with sam jackson and guilfoyle in the car at the beginning)

Both the negotiator and art of war were shot super35, however they were aired 1.78:1

i'll have to take a closer look at the shot composition the next time they air.

yeah... you do that. whatever it was, I'm very happy that TNT was added to our line-up and the way they keep adding more and more HD transfers, it makes me discover old classics all over again.

I can confirm that Rudy was in SD stretch-o-vision.

I can confirm that Aliens was in SD stretch-o-vision.

I can confirm that Aliens was in SD stretch-o-vision.




updated, btw... did anyone check Jurassic Park III? It seemed stretched to me, but i only switched for about 2 minutes... need more confirmation

JP3 certainly didn't look to be in HD to me.

I'd agree that Jurassic Park III wasn't in HD, from the few seconds I spent watching it.

sad, it would have been pretty if it was... I am still perplexed by TNTs policy of airing movies in HD...

sad, it would have been pretty if it was... I am still perplexed by TNTs policy of airing movies in HD...

"perplexed" isn't the word I would have chosen :)

I look through their schedule pretty regularly now, and try to guess what might be an actual HD transfer, and its so frustrating.

BTW, I believe Anaconda was "HD", although I can't even hardly tell anymore, but it wasn't the non-linear stretch at least, maybe just an upconvert. Its very grainy.

I just wanted to review it because I recently watched Anaconda II :D on HBO

it wasnt HD

Starship troppers, definitely not HD... sucks, it was a great movie.

I just got a 720p PJ and was looking forward to comparing the TNT-HD Starship Troopers to my superbit DVD. Oh man! I was gagging! SD stretch-o-rama crap. Bleeech! Ought to be a law.

I just got a 720p PJ and was looking forward to comparing the TNT-HD Starship Troopers to my superbit DVD. Oh man! I was gagging! SD stretch-o-rama crap. Bleeech! Ought to be a law.


there is a fabulous presentation of it in HD, I think I saw it on Showtime or Starz a few months back. I agree shame on TNT for not showing one of the best sfx and parody movies out there in HD.

Showing tonight (8/18/05) most definitely HD. Not OAR, but better than the HBO-HD version.

I am watching The Matrix on TNT Time Warner Cable in Houston, and I must say, tonight the picture looks OUTSTANDING!!! :D

Ugh this thread gets annoying. The Matrix looked sharp, but not HD. I kept switching between it and Spiderman 2 on HBO, and the matrix definitely looked soft. Also the 16:9 frame on TNT-HD was cropped from the 4:3 frame on TNT-SD. It wasnt stretched, but it wasnt the true 16:9 that HBO aired. Also, the Dolby Digital mix was horrible. Seemed like it was converted from just standard 2.0 or something. I couldnt stand it so I shut it off. Stupid TNT.

it seems like always a crap-shoot with TNT...

"it seems like always a crap-shoot with TNT..."

You must have rolled a pair of "snake eyes" :rolleyes: tonight!! TWC here in Houston, consistently puts out a great picture on TNT

I am moving The Matrix back into the needs confirmation section. I cant believe tonight's was in HD. I watched it on the big screen upstairs, for 90 minutes. I kept switching back and forth from the SD and HD feed, and I consistently saw a cropped 16:9 image from the 4:3 frame. There was no stretch like Starship Troopers but it wasnt sharp. And I saw lots of grain especially in the all white "construct scene". I didnt really see any added detail either between the HD and SD feed. The Dolby Digital mix was off and muted, virtually no discrete LFE.

I refuse to believe I am totally inept of perception. Until someone proves to me with a capture that it was HD, i'm gonna go with my gut, that tonight it simply wasnt HD...

I am moving The Matrix back into the needs confirmation section. I cant believe tonight's was in HD.

I refuse to believe I am totally inept of perception.

Believe it. It was in HD. Took me all of 5 seconds to determine that. But it suffers from alteration from OAR. Between that, commercials, and other methods of butchering, I can't understand why anyone would watch this rather than the DVD.

Thanks for the confirmation Jerry G :) Believe it or not, but I do not own this DVD (I have the other 2). But after watching tonight's broadcast, I will be picking it up, once I get off from work tomorrow. When I first saw this in theater, ages ago, it seemed really darked, and I didn't feel a purchase was worthwhile once it came out on DVD. Boy, was I wrong!! Its amazing how an HD broadcast of a movie, warrants an addition to my DVD collection!! :D

Believe it. It was in HD. Took me all of 5 seconds to determine that. But it suffers from alteration from OAR. Between that, commercials, and other methods of butchering, I can't understand why anyone would watch this rather than the DVD.


do you have screen shot comparisons between the 4:3 SD feed and the 16:9 feed?

I KNOW that the HBO HD presentation of the matrix, cropped, was at least 200% better than this transfer...

Batman was stretched. As people moved across the screen, their bodies stretched as they approached the sides. They appear to be using an algorithm that very aggressively stretches the last 10% of each side, and they are zooming a little bit and cutting off a little of the top and bottom of the frame. So the middle of the screen is very close to OAR.

It puzzles me as to why they are using 4:3 originals on many of these recent vintage movies. But I guess it would be simpler to use a 4:3 version and apply a stretching algorithm than to create a new 16:9 P&S cut from a 2.35:1 movie.

someone explain to me why TNT makes 16:9 crop jobs from 4:3 frames??? thats a first. Tonight's matrix was definitely cut from the 4:3 frame. so thats like cropped 35-40 percent from the original, maybe thats why it looked so soft/awful to me...

Ugh this thread gets annoying. The Matrix looked sharp, but not HD. I kept switching between it and Spiderman 2 on HBO, and the matrix definitely looked soft. Also the 16:9 frame on TNT-HD was cropped from the 4:3 frame on TNT-SD. It wasnt stretched, but it wasnt the true 16:9 that HBO aired. Also, the Dolby Digital mix was horrible. Seemed like it was converted from just standard 2.0 or something. I couldnt stand it so I shut it off. Stupid TNT.

it seems like always a crap-shoot with TNT...

And now you know why the mods don't make this a sticky and why the previous threads on this subject failed.

yes, agreed about it not being a sticky. its still fun to argue. Someday soon all tv will be HD and forums like this will be as useless as ones asking "is xx going to be in color tonight?" I hope LOTR is in HD tonight.

Back to the Future in on September 3rd. Has this been on before and was it in HD?

This Thursday on TNT-HD is Panic Room. It's not listed as HD on TitanTV.

Anybody know for sure?

My onscreen guide always says HD for TNT-HD. :eek: If its something I like to watch and its cropped, then I change it to 480i and insert sidebars. Not glorious but better than what they do.

Confirmed Movies in HD [COLOR=Green][B][I][SIZE=3]

Gone in 60 Seconds


It's not as anyone can clearly see tonight

ok, what about Twister? I say NO to HD... what do you all think?

It is - was from the first showing.

The Matrix looked sharp, but not HD.



It is.....you sure your TV doesn't need adjusting?

fine majority rules, i guess... I still would like to see some confirmed screencaps showing the difference btween TNT-SD and TNT-HD versions of the matrix.

Fatal Attraction tonight in SD stretch-o-vision.

This morning ...

Back to the Future in SD stretch-o-vision,

.... but ....

Pleasantville is in HD !! (only the second HD movie I've seen on TNT in the past two months)

ugh.. i was hoping Back to the Future would be in HD. Come on TNT get an HD transfer. I'm at school now so i have no way to debate you guys on what is HD and what isnt, i'll update the thread as people report in.

Back to the Future II is also in SD stretch-o-vision.

and forrest gump is in Pan/scan stretchovision on TNT.

ABC showed OAR HD,though they didn't letterbox the SD transmission!

too lazy to check if these are somewhere in here.

Sleepless in Seattle HDTV

You've Got Mail - Stretchovision.

Legends of the Fall is in HD today on TNT-HD.

Wow, two HD movies in two days !

A Perfect Murder is in HD tonight on TNT-HD.

Misery in SD stretch-o-vision this morning.

A very good upconvert .... but not good enough for AVS Forum members. ;)

Misery in SD stretch-o-vision this morning.



A 440 lbs Kathy Bates iinstead of a 220lb Kathy Bates should cure anyone of Stretch O Vision.

Jaws , Stripes , and Scrooged all in SD stretch-o-vision.

"Bait" was stretched also. Ghostbusters was extremely awful.

what about that Martin Lawrence/Steve Zahn movie? I forget the name, but I saw an HD transfer on it back when it primiered on HBO.

btw... i am now updating the threads as you guys report it. I am at school with no HDTV, much less TNT-HD.

National Security was stretched.

The Mask (Jim Carrey not Cher) in 1080i HD !! :)

Pay It Forward in stretch-o-vision SD. :mad:

Jumanji in HD. :)

Addam's Family Values and EdTV in SD stretch-o-vision. :mad:

The Truman Show also looked to be in HD last night.

Ou8thisSN,

I noticed that you haven't updated the master list in the first message since 9-9-05. Have you been busy? Are you still interested in maintaining the list?

I think the list is worthwhile, and I'd be willing to take over (start a new thread) if you were no longer interested or able.

Thanks very much for all you've done.

dneily- Don't even bother noting movies that aren't in HD or we'll be here all day.

Ou8thisSN,

I noticed that you haven't updated the master list in the first message since 9-9-05. Have you been busy? Are you still interested in maintaining the list?

I think the list is worthwhile, and I'd be willing to take over (start a new thread) if you were no longer interested or able.

Thanks very much for all you've done.

Sorry sorry sorry! been busy with exams and playing with my ipod nano.. havent been here for about a week, updated today, and yes i'm still interested....

The Truman Show also looked to be in HD last night.
The Truman Show was definately not in HD. I was comparing it back and forth between DirecTV SD feed and Comcast HD feed and it was definately stretched.

The Truman Show was not stretched, it was HD. It is soooooo easy to tell the difference on my 92" screen. Hell, within a few seconds I can tell if a film on TNT HD on my little 13" monitor is stretched or not. Not even close IMHO.

Tom
The Truman Show I watched on TNT HD was stretched. Don't know what you were watching. But I compared it to SD feed and there was no additional content on the left or right of the screen.

and you wonder why this thread always fails........and why people are happy with stretch-o-vision.

I did some testing last night on my DVHS recording of this film. My BenQ 8700+ DLP front projector allows one to select 4:3 aspect ratio even for HD signals. I switched to the 4:3 aspect ratio and it was clear that all people, objects etc. were squeezed big time. If this was a stretched presentation then the picture would look normal. Jim Carrey's shoulders look about the width of a 8 year old female gymnast and his head looked like he keeps it in a vice. Commercials looked normal in the 4:3 frame and clearly stretched in HD 16:9. Just compare the look of the obviously stretched commercials to the film. The film does not look at all like the commercials. Also the detail is far beyond any upconverted dvd, satellite etc. Fibers in his sweater are clearly visible and print on his insurance forms and the magazine he looks at at his desk are sharp as a tack. No dvd or sd sattelte whether upcoverted or not can accomplish this or even come close on my size screen. I have over 200 dvds and over 200 HD tapes including D-Theater and there is no contest which is which played on my 92" screen. My copy of The Truman Show recorded on Saturday is HD no doubt about it.


I use Dish Network and wonder if Direct TV's compression or a smaller video display is the reason one could possibly think this is not HD? Also, I sit 10' away fom my 45x80 inch screen and difference in picture quality is big. Maybe others sit furher back than 1.5 screen widths away.

I mean no disrespect to others opinions I am just stating my opinion/findings.

Tom

I do not believe that D* offers TNT-HD. I have TNT-HD via my HD cable.

hmm Tom thats a good way of testing, i will be sure to do that when i go home. But yeah i do agree that TNT does buther a lot of their HD releases where it takes a while to determine if its HD or a good SD convert.

I sure wish TNT would either get rid of their logo on the bottom right of the screen, lighten it, or do what HDNET does and have it just show it every once in a while. Anyone else find it distracting when watching a movie?

The Wedding Singer that played this past weekend appeared to be in HD as well as The Mask. Both looked very nice, much better than the dvd's. Boy, that Cameron Diaz sure looks hot in that movie. :)

U.S. Marshalls in 1080i HD.

Bloodsport in SD stretch-o-vision.

Rocky II in SD stretch-o-vision.

Analyze This in SD stretch-o-vision.

The Whole Nine Yards is stretched.

The Whole Nine Yards is stretched.

Amazing considering its been on CBS in HD several times. Ditto Pay It Forward.

But of course we aren't going to see Amanda Peet in her birthday suit on CBS or TNT :(

yup, pay it forward was in HD on ABC a while back too. TNT sucks as an HD channel.

Quick question guys ... does TNT-HD inject commercials between these HD movies ? Do they edit these movies to fit their programming schedule ? Thanks.

Max

Quick question guys ... does TNT-HD inject commercials between these HD movies ? Do they edit these movies to fit their programming schedule ? Thanks.

Max
TNT HD is run exactly like TNT SD. Only difference is that some stuff is in HD and some is SD upconverts.

Girl, Interrupted is on now in 1080i HD.

MOVIES THAT APPEAR STRETCHED:

Sugar and Spice - The center of the screen looked good but the sides seemed stretched.

Crazy/Beautiful - Looked very stretched, grainy, and just overall horrible. I think The WB showed this in HD a couple months ago so a HD copy should be available somewhere.

Trapped - Looked decent but also stretched.

The Day My Parents Ran Away - Stretchovision


SHOWS THAT APPEAR STRETCHED:

Angel - Stretchovision

NYPD Blue - Stretchovision

Charmed - Stretchovision

The Lost World - Stretchovision



I am very happy to finally have TNTHD but they really need to stop calling everything they air HD. Maybe I don't know the correct definition... but I thought that stretched material can never be considered HD. A great deal of there stuff looks like a first generation DVD that has lines going through the screen whenever there is movement. Oh well. Anything is better than the crappy PQ of the basic TNT.

Legally Blonde true HD.

Some NYPD Blues are not stretched.

This is a bit off topic, but I've never watched Alias. It seems to be pretty well thought of and when I was looking into getting Comcast's HD package I saw that TNTHD carries Alias... figured this would be a good time to check the show out...

So, questions are 1) is Alias in HD? What about the older seasons? and 2) I checked the upcoming TNT schedule and it looks like they will show the last couple episodes from season 4 later this month; any idea if they will loop around and start with season 1 episode 1 after that?

Thanks, sorry for being a bit off the main topic...

This is a bit off topic, but I've never watched Alias. It seems to be pretty well thought of and when I was looking into getting Comcast's HD package I saw that TNTHD carries Alias... figured this would be a good time to check the show out...

So, questions are 1) is Alias in HD? What about the older seasons? and 2) I checked the upcoming TNT schedule and it looks like they will show the last couple episodes from season 4 later this month; any idea if they will loop around and start with season 1 episode 1 after that?

Thanks, sorry for being a bit off the main topic...I too was planning on checking out Alias on TNT and was dissapointed when they started from season 4. I can't say for certain about Alias, but normally TNT shows their reruns pilot - series finale (or the most recent season finale if the show is still running) and then loops back to the Pilot.

I know that Alias is currently shown in HD. I can't, however, tell you if the older seasons are.

I too was planning on checking out Alias on TNT and was dissapointed when they started from season 4. I can't say for certain about Alias, but normally TNT shows their reruns pilot - series finale (or the most recent season finale if the show is still running) and then loops back to the Pilot.

I know that Alias is currently shown in HD. I can't, however, tell you if the older seasons are.

Cool; according to the TNT web schedule, the last episode of Alias season 4 is set to play on like the 24th or somewhere around there, so I suppose we will have to wait and see!

About Schmidt was in 1080i HD this morning. :)

I haven't seen any discussion of this issue. I've noticed that TNT-HD speeds up the end credits of movies, while preserving the soundtrack at normal speed. This means that they cut off the soundtrack but show all of the credits (albeit at about triple speed).

I haven't seen any discussion of this issue. I've noticed that TNT-HD speeds up the end credits of movies, while preserving the soundtrack at normal speed. This means that they cut off the soundtrack but show all of the credits (albeit at about triple speed).


Although I find that practice very lame I think STARZ and SCIFI do much worse things to credits. They zoom way out and and run promos for other programs during the credits. This wouldnt be so bad but sometimes movies have extra scenes or outtakes during the credits and it really sucks missing them. I rarely watch SCIFI anymore for this fact and also because they have one of the worst logos in the biz. I also rarely watch STARZ anymore. If there are any movies I have interest in I just watch them on the ONDEMAND. Not only can I pause and rewind it but the channel is logo free and the PQ is about the same as the regular STARZ channel.

About Schmidt really looked great, but I hate how the commercials blast out at a higher volume level.

Miss Congeniality was in HD this weekend

ABC has broadcast Alias in HD from the very first episode so in theory TNT could show them all in HD. Wouldn't that be a great marathon?

I wonder if the TNT versions have been converted from 720p?

Sliding Doors was shown in SD stretch-o-vision this morning.


I think I've become reasonably good at detecting upconverts on TNT (stretching, etc.). However, to be certain, I've started to record the same program/movie simultaneously on the analogue TNT channel when recording from the TNT-HD channel. This allows me to directly compare the cropping of the 4:3 image vis-a-vis the same image on the HD channel. If more of the scene appears near the edges on the HD channel, it is presumably not stretched, therefore HD. If the edges occur at the same place of the scene, then the 16:9 telecast is just a stretched version of the 4:3 SD telecast, and therefore an SD upconvert.

The SD recording takes up very little extra space on my DVR and obviously is temporary.

Ali True HD
Divine Secrets of the YaYa Sisterhood True HD
The Bodyguard - Stretchovision

Pretty Woman in SD stretch-o-vision.

Blast From The Past looked and sounded great!

Blast From The Past looked and sounded great!

Damn. I really like that movie and I missed it. ****. I wish TNT would show there movies at least a couple times. Seems like they show some of them 10 times a month while others only have one airing.

I agree, it looked awesome. I check my November satellite guide and it will be shown on hd tnt next on Sunday, November 27th at 3pm eastern time. I will definately be recording this on DVHS.

Anyone know if Jerry MaGuire is true HD or BALLOON O VISION

I know its been on before in non-true HD, but now I am thinking that was ABC.

I would like to know this myself before setting up my recording system for nothing.

Anyone know if Jerry MaGuire is true HD or BALLOON O VISION

I know its been on before in non-true HD, but now I am thinking that was ABC.

Without a doubt, TNT is telecasting Jerry Maguire tonight in HD !!

I compared the HD channel with the analog channel. TNT-HD shows information to either side of the left and right borders of the TNT-SD image. And there certainly is no stretch on TNT-HD.

Erin Brockovich was SD stretch-o-vision last night

Malice in SD stretch-o-vision this morning.

"Fools Rush In" SD stretch-o-vision

Moonstruck in SD stretch-o-vision.

"Fools Rush In " in SD stretch-o-vision.

will all their basketball be in HD?

WTF?!!!

Not only did "NYPD Blue" have the broadcast in HD message during the opening that was incredibly wrong (unless they feel a stretched out dvd upconvert is High Definition) but they also seem to have censored the show.

How is it possible that a cable channel shows less than ABC? AB-f*cking-C?! Cable channels can show anything they want as long as then have the correct ratings listed. They could show hard core porn if they wanted to. Why are they censoring there programs? "NYPD Blue" is a show to watch because it is on the edge and takes chances. This also makes me question the other shows they air. Is Alias, Cold Case, Las Vegas, etc... going to be different than the versions we saw on ABC, CBS, or NBC?

This is an episode that I know for sure has a HD copy out there. There is no reason why they shouldn't offer that copy. I have seen vidcaps from this particular episode and they have been HD and have shown a great deal more that the piece of sh*t I just watched. If TNTHD keeps doing this than I can cross off NYPD Blue as a show I might watch in the future on there channel.


If you are curious about which episode I am talking about it was "Nude Awakening"

In the unedited pre TNT hackjob version Charlotte Ross shows her backside and the side of her breasts in a very funny scene. The scene and funny aspect was totally ruined by the changes.

I wasn't aware that NYPD Blue was a movie and fit in this thread - but you are also assuming that TNT runs the same amount of commercials that ran when ABC ran this series (they don't) so they would not need to edit it.

If you want to get technical, every movie TNT airs has HD available yet you see how many are stretched - so your point?

If they showed all the movies in HD, this thread would not exist!

I wasn't aware that NYPD Blue was a movie and fit in this thread - but you are also assuming that TNT runs the same amount of commercials that ran when ABC ran this series (they don't) so they would not need to edit it.

If you want to get technical, every movie TNT airs has HD available yet you see how many are stretched - so your point?

If they showed all the movies in HD, this thread would not exist!

Sorry about that. I thought about making a new thread talking about TNT editing shows but I have had several new threads moved or closed. Guess I might make one now or search for any similar posts that have already been made.

Wedding Planner in 1080i HD.

FWIW, I just found a site which seems to indicate which TNTHD movies are True HDTV and which are Upconverts. First site that I've found that attempts to do that. Don't know the source of the info and cannot speak to the accuracy of it, just thought I'd pass it along. The HD/Upconvert designations for todays highlights seems to match with what is listed in the first post of this thread.

http://www.hightechtv.net/

seems like an equivalent from some random poster on their forums there. i doubt they are any more accurate than we are...

FWIW, I just found a site which seems to indicate which TNTHD movies are True HDTV and which are Upconverts. First site that I've found that attempts to do that. Don't know the source of the info and cannot speak to the accuracy of it, just thought I'd pass it along. The HD/Upconvert designations for todays highlights seems to match with what is listed in the first post of this thread.

http://www.hightechtv.net/



Last edited by BFG : 12-16-2004 at 12:15 PM.

TNTHD just got added to my cable lineup and the wedding planner is definitely an upconvert. I can see the artifacts everytime some makes a movement like talking. It's funny because the commercials don't look upconverted.

Wrong movie, I meant Runaway Bride.

I hate the way TNT HD stretches SD movies. Let me decide how to stretch, or not. And don't call it HD of it isn't!

Ou8thisSN,

Once again, thank you very much for maintaining this list. Thanks also to the many contributors.

I have a few "housekeeping" corrections for the list:

Hope Monte Walsh -- there is no movie with this title in the Internet Movie Database. However, there are two movies with the name Monte Walsh.

Ocean's Eleven vice Ocean Eleven

Perfect Murder and Knight's Tale each appear twice. I recommend deleting the duplicative A Perfect Murder and A Knight's Tale.

Jerry Maguire vice Jerry McGuire

Stepmom vice Step Mom

Girl, Interrupted vice Girl Interrupted

Goodbye Girl this morning was the 2004 made-for-TV version, not the 1977 theatrical release. It was indeed in 1080i HD though.

I noticed that, unlike the stretch-o-vision telecasts, the concurrent TNT-SD channel picture was 16:9. So that may be another clue as to which movies are shown in 1080i on TNT-HD.

There are couple of channels that do that. HBO, Showtime, and Starz stretch material just to say that it is hd even though it is upconverted. The only true 24 hour hd channels I've seen to date are INHD1 and 2, and Discovery HD. I don't get HDnet, Cinemax HD, and TMC in hd but I do know I was tired of watching the statement presented in HD where available and not being able to watch Law & Order in hd because it wasn't available.

Last night, TNT-HD showed Aliens in SD stretch-o-vision.

Yes, but Rules of Engagement shown twice right before that was true HD.

"Life" stretch- o- vision this morning.

Guys, there really is no point in reporting what isn't in HD is there?

Sure it is... It shows how stupid they are. No other "HD" network claims HD when it clearly is not. I would hope that everyone complains and forces them to do the right thing!

"Encino Man" was in Stretch-O-Vision this morning. It also looked like it needed to be deinterlaced or something. Whenever there was any movement lines were present throughout the screen.

The Others in SD stretch-o-vision this morning.

Last night, I compared the versions of Saving Private Ryan shown on the analog and HD TNT channels.

As expected, the (unstretched) 16:9 image on the HD channel showed more picture to the left and right. However, the 4:3 image on the analog channel showed more information near the top border.

Perhaps, at least for this telecast, TNT used two different (and differently cropped) versions of SPR for their two channels.

Sounds similar to Rules of Engagement. I've never seen it on regular TNT or DVD so I can't say for sure, but I think it was a bit zoomed in too. The tops of the foreheads were cut off consistently. It could have been framed that way intentionally, but I'm not sure. I just know that it was annoying. I kept double checking to make sure I didn't have the Zoom on accidently.

Just watched a decent amount of "Saving Private Ryan" and it looked and sounded great. It was also wonderful to see that TNT didnt do a hackjob on this movie and left in everything. F bombs included.

updated

Stripes was in SD stretch-o-vision this morning.

Also, did anyone see or record Word of Honor a couple of nights ago? I botched the HD recording, but I did record the movie on TNT's analog channel. The analog channel presented the movie in 16:9, suggesting that the HD channel likely showed the movie unstretched and thus in true HD.

As a Wizards fan who is new to watching TNTHD, I didn’t have much fun watching the Wizards drop a game to the Timberwolves last night--whether in HD or not. I did get some chuckles, though, from watching all the SD commercials being shown in stretch-o-vision. All those fat, extra-wide faces, heads and bodies looked awful. Great! I couldn’t have distorted them any better myself. Viewing a stretched SD film would be the pits, of course. No more TNTHD for me until Dec. 8, when they air the Wizards vs. the Pacers.

Ogbuehi, you wrote in #155: “There are couple of channels that do that. HBO, Showtime, and Starz stretch material just to say that it is hd even though it is upconverted.”

As I type, the Showtime HD channel is airing the 2001 film “Stealing Time” in the SD 4:3 format with pillars. (I have Cox Comm. cable in Fairfax County, adjacent to you in Alexandria.) Might you be exaggerating what some of the Premium movie channels do?

Jim

Anyone know if Medicine Man is true HD? It's on 11/26 at 3 AM EST.

Lord Of The Ring: Two Towers will be on Dec. 9. Hopefully it will be HD.

Legend of Bagger Vance was in SD stretch-o-vision last night. Oddly, the movie started a few minutes before the scheduled start time of 10 p.m.

"See Spot Run" looked pretty good a couple days ago although it seemed to suffer from the same problem as "Sugar & Spice". The middle of the screen looked fine but the sides looked stretched.

Also..... What is with TNT's logo? It seems to jump around the screen greatly. Sometimes it is partly cut off on the side of my screen while other times it is a good inch away. Just found this a bit odd. I still like its simplicity though. I just wish it wasn't on screen all the time during movies.

TNTHD seriously needs to stop having the broadcast in HD popup in the begining of shows that aren't HD. I saw this on "The Lost World". The Lost World TV show has never been offered in unstretched format on TNTHD.

Anyone know if Medicine Man is true HD? It's on 11/26 at 3 AM EST.

Nope. Stretch-o.

Caught a few minutes of Entrapment and it looked great!

Two movies last night in 1080i HD:

Door to Door

Wool Cap

I think both are made-for-TV movies and produced by Hallmark.

Boys on the Side was in SD stretch-o-vision, and horribly cropped from 2.35:1 to 1.33:1 (then stretched to 1.78:1).

Last night, TNT-HD showed one of the movies already on this thread's "Confirmed in HD" list: A Christmas Story .

Although the movie was indeed in HD, the cropping was horrendous. By comparing the TNT-analog and TNT-HD channels, I found that the HD image was a 1.78:1 crop of the already cropped 4:3 image.

Also, Christmas Story and Twister are edited for content and time.

Last night, TNT-HD showed one of the movies already on this thread's "Confirmed in HD" list: A Christmas Story .

Although the movie was indeed in HD, the cropping was horrendous. By comparing the TNT-analog and TNT-HD channels, I found that the HD image was a 1.78:1 crop of the already cropped 4:3 image.

I watched Christmas story for about 3 minutes trying to figure out exactly what they had done to it. It did have a wider field than the 4:3 feed - but it had less information on the top and bottom - typical of stretch-o-vision. The faces also looked "fatter" than they did on the side by side SD feed - thus, I went back to Lost.

Fried Green Tomatoes in SD stretch-o-vision this morning.

Of course, that means Kathy Bates is stretched once again. She ought to sue Ted Turner. I'm glad that TNT-HD didn't stretch About Schmidt . If you're familiar with that movie, do you recall seeing Kathy in the hot tub scene?

"The Mask of Zorro" was listed on page one as being offered in HD. I watched a couple minutes today and it was very stretched. Stretch-o-vision for this one also sadly.

Updated.


I saw a teaser for Spiderman for a the middle of december weekend. Hopefully that will be in HD.

Also, does anyone else have a problem with the "not in HD" section, in terms of color? on my laptop, it looked a little wierd and hurt my eyes, but it could be me just tired. let me know.

"The Mask of Zorro" was listed on page one as being offered in HD. I watched a couple minutes today and it was very stretched. Stretch-o-vision for this one also sadly.

I was disappointed too with "The Mask of Zorro". I hadn't seen it since it's theatrical release and was looking forward to seeing it in HD. TNT's stretch-o-vision was just awful.

Interestingly, Jamanji was in HD.

-bruce

Although the 'Wizard of Oz' was listed for HD at the beginning of this thread, it was not in HD on TNT HD last night ... on Dish Network anyway. Can anyone else confirm?

It sure was in HD with Dish here in Cali. Don't let the 4:3 AR fool you, that was a beautiful picture and definitely in HD. Incredible for a movie made in 1939.

Also, does anyone else have a problem with the "not in HD" section, in terms of color? on my laptop, it looked a little wierd and hurt my eyes, but it could be me just tired. let me know.

Yes, it's a bit hard to read for me too.

This has to be the strangest thing I have seen thus far - and completely negates the whole purpose of this thread.

Saturday night TNT-HD aired Twister in Stretch-0-Vision, which they have shown in HD before. Last night, it wasn't in HD.

Sunday afternoon they aired Twister again - this time in HD.

Saturday night's showing was listed as 150 minutes. Sunday afternoons schedule time was 120 minutes.

The framing was different between the two.

Bottom line - TNT-HD has HD and Non-HD versions of the same movie - and you never know which you are going to get - thus this thread will be of little use trying to determine whether to watch something or not if it is in true HD. :(

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/3879/twisterupc9606ts.png (http://imageshack.us)

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/1391/twisterhd9600oz.png (http://imageshack.us)

Noticed the same thing DVR'd "TWISTER" the other day it was HD.It was a 2hr. block for the heck of it just checked how much they cut out of 113 min. length.Turned out it was about 17-18 min.Saw it was Sat.[I think] Stretch-O-Vision 2hr. 15 min. block.

I don't understand why they'd bother showing the SD version of a movie if they have the HD version. Is there a bandwidth problem somewhere at certain times for them?

larry

ugh, i officially hate TNT.

ugh, i officially hate TNT.

This probably explains much of the debate on certain titles being true HD vs Stretch-O-Vision on TNT.

Lord Of The Ring: Two Towers will be on Dec. 9. Hopefully it will be HD.

Just want to bring this up again, since it's drawing near. Fellowship is on the "Confirmed HD" list, so are we safe to assume Towers will be too?

How can you read the previous 10 posts and assume anything?

tnt@turner.com

I am watching part of "Lord of the Rings: Fellowship" at 7pm on December 7, 2005 and it is definitely in HD. Looking pretty good also.

But sadly, not oar.

lets get TNT to at least air all their movies in HD, that are available in HD, all the time, then we'll worry about OAR, k?

But sadly, not oar.

Also, the soundtrack utilized compression.

I am watching part of "Lord of the Rings: Fellowship" at 7pm on December 7, 2005 and it is definitely in HD. Looking pretty good also.

I flipped by FOTR last night for a look. Not impressed. I'm pretty sure my DVD looks better.

I flipped by FOTR last night for a look. Not impressed. I'm pretty sure my DVD looks better.

Actually, I did compare. The DVD is not even close to the TNT broadcast.

BTW, The Two Towers looked great too! Still compressed soundtrack, though...

ugh, another annoying habit of TNTs... to compress the soundtrack. They alone have invented so many new ways of buthering HD (crop from 4:3 to make a HD frame, compress the audio, air different SD HD versions of same movies confirmed to be HD) that it makes me wonder why they even bothered to launch an HD channel. perhaps it was only so that we would start a thread like this and start arguing with each other over each movie they air, and they sit back and laugh at us.

it makes me wonder why they even bothered to launch an HD channel.

It's definitely a spoon-fed, double-processed, consumer-driven channel, but at least the picture is HD, right?

I flipped by FOTR last night for a look. Not impressed. I'm pretty sure my DVD looks better.

Who's your provider, and what size display do you have?

I have Comcast, and FP onto an 8 1/2 foot screen. It looked spectacular to my eyes. With a screen this large, HD and up-converts are easily distinguishable.
OAR aside, TNT has some of the best looking transfers I've seen.

Art

Who's your provider, and what size display do you have?

I have Comcast, and FP onto an 8 1/2 foot screen. It looked spectacular to my eyes. With a screen this large, HD and up-converts are easily distinguishable.
OAR aside, TNT has some of the best looking transfers I've seen.

Art

DishNetwork on a 50 inch LCD. Looked fuzzzy to me. If it comes on on again I'll have to record some on the DVR and do a serious compare with the identical scene on DVD.

DishNetwork on a 50 inch LCD. Looked fuzzzy to me. If it comes on on again I'll have to record some on the DVR and do a serious compare with the identical scene on DVD.


LOTR are "soft" looking movies. It didn't look "sharp" on my screen, but it didn't look sharp in the theatre either. What separates it from the DVD is the detail in the background. I'm sure if you do an A/B comparison, you'll notice a difference.

Take care.
Art

Maybe your right but I don't think so. LOTR isn't on again this week but I see the 5th element is their schedule this comming weekend. I have the superbit version DVD of this movie so here's a great chance to do a serious comparison. TNT will really have to do a great job to beat the quality of that particular DVD.

Maybe your right but I don't think so. LOTR isn't on again this week but I see the 5th element is their schedule this comming weekend. I have the superbit version DVD of this movie so here's a great chance to do a serious comparison. TNT will really have to do a great job to beat the quality of that particular DVD.

I'll have to check that out as well. As far as resolution, the DVD doesn't stand a chance against an HD version. There is just more resolvable detail that the DVD can't show. (I use an Oppo upscaling player to 1080i - it looks good, but not true HD) There can be issues with an HD broadcast, such as bitrate, blocking in fast scenes, etc. that could make watching the DVD more pleasing though.

Art

... LOTR isn't on again this week ....


FYI, LOTR FOTR and TTT will air again back to back on TNTHD, Sunday 12/18, 9:30AM PST.

FYI, LOTR FOTR and TTT will air again back to back on TNTHD, Sunday 12/18, 9:30AM PST.

TYVM. ;)

I'll have to check that out as well. As far as resolution, the DVD doesn't stand a chance against an HD version. There is just more resolvable detail that the DVD can't show. (I use an Oppo upscaling player to 1080i - it looks good, but not true HD) There can be issues with an HD broadcast, such as bitrate, blocking in fast scenes, etc. that could make watching the DVD more pleasing though.

Art

Hey Art,

I also have the Oppo upconverting player and actually did side by side comparisons of FoTR EE to the Tnt HD version. What I found (and its just my opinion) is that the Oppo comes VERY close the the TNT version. I watched the first half of the movie flipping back and forth after syncing up the satellite feed with the DVD. The only difference I noticed was the OAR on the DVD and the colors were somewhere between neutral to cold from the Oppo. But I was quite surprised how well the Oppo did vs the TNT HD broadcast. After spending about 45 mins switching back and forth I decided it was close enough to not bother sitting through commercials and the Dobly Digital soundtrack. I have the Extended versions which have AMAZING, near HD quality (again ONLY my opinion) with a much improved DTS soundtrack.

Did watch most of the Matrix and seemed to look pretty good. Not sure if they chopped off parts of foreheads since I can't find my DVD copy to compare against. Can someone who saw it let me know if they modified the OAR?

BTW, as noted I have the Oppo upconverted to 1080i (DVI->HDMI) to the Sony 34XBR960.

Christmas Carol was in 1080i HD last night. This is the made-for-cable version with Patrick Stewart.

Hey Art,

I also have the Oppo upconverting player and actually did side by side comparisons of FoTR EE to the Tnt HD version. What I found (and its just my opinion) is that the Oppo comes VERY close the the TNT version. I watched the first half of the movie flipping back and forth after syncing up the satellite feed with the DVD. The only difference I noticed was the OAR on the DVD and the colors were somewhere between neutral to cold from the Oppo. But I was quite surprised how well the Oppo did vs the TNT HD broadcast. After spending about 45 mins switching back and forth I decided it was close enough to not bother sitting through commercials and the Dobly Digital soundtrack. I have the Extended versions which have AMAZING, near HD quality (again ONLY my opinion) with a much improved DTS soundtrack.


BTW, as noted I have the Oppo upconverted to 1080i (DVI->HDMI) to the Sony 34XBR960.



No doubt the Oppo does a great job of upconverting DVD's. But there is so much more resolvable detail in an HD presentation, that I can easily tell the difference. This is most likely due to the size of the screen (8.5' wide) I watch on. I'll have to do a comparison on my 61' CRT HDTV in the bedroom.

Art

Scrooged was on last night in Stretch-O-Vision.

Looked horrible :(

Austin Powers - The Spy Who Shagged Me:

Stretch-O.

Thanks very much for the Stretch-O warnings. My local cable-co just turned TNT-HD on this morning. I haven't had any chance to watch anything yet, but was making a list of stuff to record. These heads-ups make things easier.

It's really unfortunate that they care so little about quality, and have the gall to advertise this crap as HiDef. We need some application of truth in advertising laws.

- Tim

For those of you who were horrified by the horrible stretchovision presentation of Ghostbusters offered by TNT there might be some hope. Showtime has listed this movie on there HD channel listings. Not only is it listed as being in HD but also in OAR.

Ghostbusters WIDESCREEN HDTV OAR
PG
Dolby Digital 5.1
Jan 12 6:30 PM

If TNT doesnt want people talking about there competitors than maybe they should have offered this movie in HD to begin with. Just like they incorrectly listed it.

The 2pm airing of "The Mummy" on TNT-notReallyHD was an upconverted stretch-o-vision. (God is that ugly.)

Is there any possibility that the 11:30pm airing will be any different? Thanks.

- Tim

The 2pm airing of "The Mummy" on TNT-notReallyHD was an upconverted stretch-o-vision. (God is that ugly.)

Is there any possibility that the 11:30pm airing will be any different? Thanks.

- Tim

To my knowledge, it's never happened before. But then, up until now, pigs have never flown either. :rolleyes:

Ask Santa Claus for a D-Theater VCR and the D-Theater tape of The Mummy .

Darrell,

thanks for the feedback. I thought I recalled reading somewhere in this thread that even though TNT had HD versions of some films, at times they aired upconverted SD versions for no apparent reason. But I probably haven't been paying as much attention as I should, because I just got access to TNT-HD yesterday.

> Ask Santa Claus for a D-Theater VCR and the D-Theater tape of The Mummy . <

Not a bad suggestion. I already have 3 of the former, and one of the later would be a good addition to my library of HD films.

But it does kind of leave open the question of what the point is of having TNT-HD, after all.

- Tim

alright people, thanks for taking the interest in this thread and keeping it alive.

on December 26th, I'll be heading out of the country for about 6 weeks. I dont know if I can update the thread on a regular basis, but will certainly try based on what kind of internet connection/time i get access to. I will update this thread again next weekend before i take off.

great job on Spiderman this weekend.

I'll have to check that out as well. As far as resolution, the DVD doesn't stand a chance against an HD version. There is just more resolvable detail that the DVD can't show. (Art

OK so I carefully compared identical scenes in both 5th element and FOTR and I was wrong. My DVD version was not better. But this was only after zooming in the DVD so that it filled the screen to about the same area as the streched version on TNT. At that point the TNT presentation was definitely better. I guess the strech-o-vision was my problem all along. It would still be interesting to compare two scenes in OAR.

OK so I carefully compared identical scenes in both 5th element and FOTR and I was wrong. My DVD version was not better. But this was only after zooming in the DVD so that it filled the screen to about the same area as the streched version on TNT. At that point the TNT presentation was definitely better. I guess the strech-o-vision was my problem all along. It would still be interesting to compare two scenes in OAR.


I was able to watch a bit of this and was a little disappointed. Maybe it was due to TNT zooming to fit 16.9, but it looked very grainy to my eyes. It was still more detailed than the DVD, but the grain was troublesome. The picture was still good enough for me to realise how far makeup and SFX have come since TFE was made though.

Art

Hey, just wanted to thank everyone for the great thread!

My Cable co. (Charter) just added TNTHD (and Cinemax HD) to my lineup and this thread is very helpful in figuring out what movies are worth watching..

Great thread everyone ! :)

The Fifth Element is one of TNT's better presentations. Good PQ. My wife loves seeing the TNT HD version.

TNT forums:


Register and make a stink about stretch-o-vision and OAR. Maybe someone from TNT will see the large number of posts and do something.

http://www.tntcgi.com/phpBB2/

To Die For in SD stretch-o-vision this morning. Nicol Kidman with fat legs ... an offense for which the responsible person at TNT should die for. :rolleyes:

I've only had TNT-HD for a few weeks, but here's some extra films to add to each list:

Stretch-o-vision...

- As Good As It Gets,
- Beverly Hills Ninja,
- Chill Factor,
- Clear and Present Danger,
- Fair Game,
- First Knight,
- Ghosts of Mars,
- Long Kiss Goodnight,
- Mickey Blue Eyes
- The Mummy,
- Overboard,
- Scream3,
- To Die For

Additional confirmed films in HD:

- About Schmidt,
- Miss Congeniality,
- The Thomas Crown Affair,
- Turbulence

Feel free to add these to the page 1 listings.

- Tim

I love Natasha Henstridge and so hoped Ghost of Mars would be HD :(

well, good news folks, seems like i have some internet access here in india. so i'll continue to update this thread as new additions are made.

And just a few more, from the past week:

Stretch-o-vision...

- Bad Moon
- Mask of Death
- Misery
- Night Sins
- the Net :(
- Remember the Titans

And confirmed films in HD:

- Along Came a Spider
- American President, The
- Perfect Murder, A
- True Crime
- Trapped

"Trapped" is listed as Confirmed NOT HD on the first page here, but both the airings this week were in true HD.

Perfect Murder was an odd one, because on the first airing I confirmed that it started in true HD for sure, during the first half hour or so. But when I checked during the last 20 minutes, it had turned into Stretch-o-vision at some point, all the way out to the end. Probably a switch that someone forgot to flip, after a commercial break. Since I had no conflicting shows on other nets, I caught it when they ran it again, and both the start and end were fine.

- Tim

Salem's Lot in HD this morning. This is the 2003 made-for-cable movie. Ran four hours with commercials.

Dreamcatcher was HD.

The Matrix and The Matrix Reloaded were HD, but edited for content and time (and it appeared that Reloaded was only edited for violence -- the language stayed).

Major League II was soft, out of focus, and stretched.

Not only was it listed as HD but they also had the "Broadcast in HD" overlay when the movie started. This is really f*cking annoying. My hopes for "Ready to Rumble" are very low. Hopefully HBO will show this movie in a decent form. They showed the first one several times last month.

The truly scary thing is that it is becoming harder and harder for me to tell what is HD and what is stretched. With fear of burn in I have my tv set to stretch for SD channels (2-70). I wish the FCC would look into false advertising as much as they look into possible cursing or nipple situations.

Has TNT given any explanation as to why they claim all of there movies are HD? I just feel bad for people who are new to HD and dont know any better. No wonder so many people arent wowed when they "see" HD. First they have to deal with Direct Tv and other companies killing the quality and then they have to deal with false advertising. Very lame.

this is why this thread was created, to help out new people

this is why this thread was created, to help out new people

True. But how many people who are new to HD are going to come to this forum? It is a great place ,very helpfull, and I would highly recommend it to anyone but I was talking about the average newbie. What they see on there on screen guide is there only indication on what is going to be HD. Everything listed by TNTHD is listed as HD. I just wish TNT would get off there a$$ and handle there business properly. The fact we need threads like this is ridiculous.

tnt@turner.com

Flood TNT with complaints........

ESPN used to have all their stuff stretched when they first launched an HD channel, and then later changed it around to the HD bars, as demand grew. perhaps the same is true with turner, who will change as more of their channels launch, get a booth setup, etc.

Thanks for the email address. I was just going to post on there forums but I guess I can do both now.


Ready To Rumble was indeed Stretch-o-Vision. It did look sharp though.

Good Morning, Vietnam last night in SD stretch-o-vision.

TheRock commented:
> I wish the FCC would look into false advertising as much as they look into possible cursing or nipple situations. Has TNT given any explanation as to why they claim all of there movies are HD? <

Lies, lies, and d@mn lies. Very aggravating in itself, but as you point out, false advertising is another kettle of fish (i.e., illegal). Basic Truth in Advertising would dictate divulging when content is NOT really HD. My guess is their legal dept. thinks that as long as they've upconverted it, it's now HD, whether it started that way or not. I.e., they transmit everything in 1080i, and that's HD, right? Sure. :mad:

Even the online program guides can't get the truth out of TNT-HD. While HBO, Showtime, Cinemax, etc. provide info that lets the guides discriminate HD from not, TNT fails there too.

Isn't TNT, and all the bull$hit they've pulled over the years, the reason why all stations are now required by FCC regulation to show disclaimers at the beginning of all programs, re: Edited for Content, Time Compressed, Reformatted for the Screen, Edited to Cram in More Commercials, ad nauseum? I guess the FCC needs to take time out from nipple-scanning to add new regs for non-HD disclosures.

- Tim

Here's probably my last contribution on the HD/stretch logging, since it's not really worth the time/effort for the quality that TNT-HD is delivering (and the constant disappointments)...

Confirmed films in HD:

- Hardball
- the Score

Confirmed Stretch-o-vision...

- Blade,
- Drumline,
- Eraser,
- Good Morning, Vietnam,
- Johnny Mnemonic,
- Windtalkers

I also caught a few minutes of Forrest Gump, which is listed as Stretch, but looked fine to me. Someone else should confirm that though, since I didn't dwell on it.

- Tim

The SAG awards looked stretched and non-HD

I also caught a few minutes of Forrest Gump, which is listed as Stretch, but looked fine to me. Someone else should confirm that though, since I didn't dwell on it.

- Tim

I just came here to comment about Forrest Gump. It has always looked HD to me and it did again today. It is definately not stretch-o-vision though.

The Patriot was HD, but edited for content and time (a 174 minute movie cut down to fill a 3-hour commercial-laden block).

Thanks John, for the Gump confirmation.

lax01 wrote:
> The SAG awards looked stretched and non-HD <

It was definitely stretched. Actually, it was rather nauseating... literally. With all the panning, and people moving about, etc, things were constantly moving in and out of the vari-stretch regions on the sides, and watching people's heads expand and contract was making me ill.

Needless to say, I didn't leave the channel there long either.

- Tim

I was just channel surfing when I stopped on TNT. They were showing The Running Man. Very stretched and some of the worst picture quality I have ever seen.

The Running Man = Stretch-O-Vision

The Rock wrote:
> Very stretched and some of the worst picture quality I have ever seen. <

No kidding. They should come up with a new motto: "TNT-HD... even worse than SD!".

I tuned in for "Jurassic Park III" tonight. Big mistake. What a bunch of fatheads! I.e., the actors, and as they moved towards the sides, their heads became even more bulbous. I'd think the SAG would file a class action suit against TNT for the mutilation they're doing to their members.

So we can add to the Stretch-O-Vision list:

- Jurassic Park III,
- the Running Man (thanks Rock!), and
- Passenger 57

I wonder if the higher-ups at TNT realize they're destroying their rep amongst viewers, one ruined film at a time? :mad:

- Tim

As a Comcast subscriber, I've been drooling over the idea of getting a new HD channel for over a year. They just finally deployed TNT-HD to my area and I must say, it is the biggest disappoint I've had since switching to HD. With the combination of Stretch-O-Vision, as well as editing for time and content, I just don't see the point of bothering. I haven't watched the channel since the day I got it.

As a Comcast subscriber, I've been drooling over the idea of getting a new HD channel for over a year. They just finally deployed TNT-HD to my area and I must say, it is the biggest disappoint I've had since switching to HD. With the combination of Stretch-O-Vision, as well as editing for time and content, I just don't see the point of bothering. I haven't watched the channel since the day I got it.

Just wait until you get Universal HD - TNT-HD will seem like a godsend :(

worse bandwidth, worse quality, horrible selection of programs

Caught part of "Deep Blue Sea" in HD this morning and was very pleasantly surprised. It looked really good.

HDTVFanAtic commented:
> Universal HD... worse bandwidth, worse quality <

Could you expand on this a bit? How could it possibly be worse than the blurry upconverts, stretched atrocities, and hacked commercial-laden offerings from TNT-"HD"? How could anything be worse than that?

I've only had UHD for a couple days, and haven't had time to really examine it much. So I'm asking in all sincerity. What I did notice right away though was: no commercial breaks (on films), no content hacked out, no upconverts, no stretching, no constant corner bugs, no popups, and mostly OAR.

- Tim