Foot/Toe fetish was funny.

Doug Wilson saying something like "Dyke daughter" was funny too.

Shane and Isabelle were smoking! haha.

Edit: That damn Showtime banner must end.. I pay for showtime, they should remove the banner if you already pay for their service.
(Like CPather95? has said ealier)

yeah, I hated that banner too.

The episode was OK. I think last week was better. I'm kinda getting tired of Andy's "adventures".

yeah, I hated that banner too.

The episode was OK. I think last week was better. I'm kinda getting tired of Andy's "adventures".

I could've gone without seeing Celia in her b-day suit.... :eek:

Oh yeah, that too.

When they showed her breasts I was like ewwwww. And then they showed hey whole body and that was it for me...

And then they showed hey whole body and that was it for me...
ha.

I forgot about her breast. That was wild.

That episode had too much sausage and mutilated breasts.

Yeah---how come they showed Celia's breasts but not Nancy in the X-Ray machine?

And was that Paul Thomas playing the movie director?

Oh yeah, that too.

When they showed her breasts I was like ewwwww. And then they showed hey whole body and that was it for me...

October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month, the show-runner/creator of Weeds is female, and it's not like Weeds has never made any sociopolitical commentary before.

It sure made you aware didn't it? ;)

It sure made you aware didn't? ;)Seeing one of those pink wristbands would’ve been enough awareness for me.;)

I thought it was pretty good; kinda followed the "let's get back to 'normal' theme" from last week. Can't figure out Nancy's fascination with her dead DEA agent hubby's ex-wife; and also wonder how the ex found out about her stalking (I mean it was rather obvious, but still; she seemed to know more about Nancy than just that she'd been following her).

Last week when Nancy gave herself to the Mathew Modine character she warned him that her last two relationships ended up dead. No one knew that the DEA guy was dead yet. I wonder if that remark was a mistake or it’s integral to the plot line

Last week when Nancy gave herself to the Mathew Modine character she warned him that her last two relationships ended up dead. No one knew that the DEA guy was dead yet. I wonder if that remark was a mistake or it’s integral to the plot lineHow do you mean a mistake? She new he was dead, as the Armenians (I think, or maybe U-turns guys, I forget now) told her during the big confrontation at the end of last season. Admitting it might not have been the smartest thing she could have done, but she didn't say who the relationships were, so I think she can get by with that.

October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month, the show-runner/creator of Weeds is female, and it's not like Weeds has never made any sociopolitical commentary before.

It sure made you aware didn't? ;)

I thought that's why they were showing the porno girls naked. But yeah, what you said makes more sense. :D

I watched a movie last night called "Little Athens" that I think those of you who like Weeds may like.

I thaught the U Turn funeral episode 2 weeks ago was the best one of this season...

Yeah---how come they showed Celia's breasts but not Nancy in the X-Ray machine?


Because Mary-Louise Parker is the star and has a no-nudity clause in her contract. Thought it was particularly brave of Elizabeth Perkins to do those scenes though, considering she's not a nubile young thang anymore.

Because Mary-Louise Parker is the star and has a no-nudity clause in her contract. Thought it was particularly brave of Elizabeth Perkins to do those scenes though, considering she's not a nubile young thang anymore.

My thoughts as well. There does seem to be a trend lately towards focusing on middle aged women instead of younger ones, Kyra Sedgwick, Holly Hunter, Parker, Perkins, Glenn Close, all outstanding actresses.

How do you mean a mistake? Of course she knew he was dead but no one else did. Why put that information out there? Her relationship with the DEA guy was not a total secret. It was either sloppy writing or maybe it was intentional and will come back to her. Most likely it was just bad writing.

Because Mary-Louise Parker is the star and has a no-nudity clause in her contract. Thought it was particularly brave of Elizabeth Perkins to do those scenes though, considering she's not a nubile young thang anymore.

Do you guys really think that was actually her?
With everything they can do these days (body doubles, CGI, superimposing, etc.),
I assumed that it wasn't really Ms. Perkins' body.

Of course she knew he was dead but no one else did. Why put that information out there? Her relationship with the DEA guy was not a total secret. It was either sloppy writing or maybe it was intentional and will come back to her. Most likely it was just bad writing.

Modine's character is new to Agrestic. He doesn't know anything of Nancy's previous life. Under those circumstances, Nancy had nothing to lose by declaring her last 2 boyfriends to now be dead. The writers on this show have to keep a lot of balls in the air, but they didn't make a mistake there.

Do you guys really think that was actually her?
With everything they can do these days (body doubles, CGI, superimposing, etc.),
I assumed that it wasn't really Ms. Perkins' body.

Yep, I think it was. The only changes were the make-up scars on her boobs. Ms. Perkins has always had an impressive rack. ;)

so MLP has a no nudity clause and she can be naked sometimes but not showing any nipple or below the waist?
Because she has been shown having sex without clothes a lot of times in the show. Not that I'm complaining. :D

Oh yeah, that too.

When they showed her breasts I was like ewwwww. And then they showed hey whole body and that was it for me...

Aw, give her a break. You gotta admit that for a woman her age, her body doesn't look that bad.

so MLP has a no nudity clause and she can be naked sometimes but not showing any nipple or below the waist?


Yeah, basically that's it. She's got a great figure and doesn't mind showing it off within limits, but doesn't want to end up being an internet sensation by allowing any frontal nudity.

Aw, give her a break. You gotta admit that for a woman her age, her body doesn't look that bad.

Well said.

I thought this was the best episode of the season. That was a really powerful moment when Elizabeth Perkins did the nude scene in the mirror. The cancer thing was kinda glanced over, but it really came home in this episode. I always wondered, besides the obvious actress not wanting to get naked, why she was never topless when having sex with Doug. I personally find Elizabeth Perkins to be a better looking woman than MLP.

Last nite's ep was hilarious! SO GLAD to see a return to comedy, still mean, but funny as hell! Loved the scene with Andy and Doug in the hospital room. And the dog...

Last nite's ep was hilarious! SO GLAD to see a return to comedy, still mean, but funny as hell! Loved the scene with Andy and Doug in the hospital room. And the dog...
I agree that this season of Weeds has turned the corner – thank God! From thinking that the show had Jumped the Shark with its dreary and unfunny U-Turn and military threads, it has returned to its Agrestic roots and is inventive and funny again.

I am really enjoying seeing Elizabeth Perkins at her snarkiest and funniest. Brooke Smith as the first Mrs. Scottson has also been terrific and is a welcome addition. She is both sassy and funny, and her developing friendship with Nancy has a lot of possibilities.

By the way, does anybody else remember the much younger Brooke Smith as the kidnap victim of the creepy Jame Gumb in “The Silence of the Lambs”?

Yep she's the one that Cpt. Stottlemeyer told to rub the lotion on her skin, or else she'll get the hose again.

Brooke Smith was also the lead in a little indie movie called Series 7: The Contenders. I highly recommend checking it out. Very clever satire on Reality TV.

Ok, I think as of episodes 8 & 9 this season we are back on track!

I have been scouring the Internet all evening for a "save the dirt shrew" t-shirt like the one Kevin Nealon was wearing. Turns out, I'm a day late and few hundred dollars short because some charity site was auctioning off the original batch that was made for the show. The bidding got close to $400 :eek: I was hoping more for $20 shipped..lol

Last nite's ep was hilarious! SO GLAD to see a return to comedy, still mean, but funny as hell! Loved the scene with Andy and Doug in the hospital room. And the dog...Wish every episode was as good as that one...

I replayed the ending a few times.

The dancin' Doug at the end had me rolling.

The dancin' Doug at the end had me rolling.

Did he somehow engineer that geyser of sewage, or was it just a particularly nasty coincidence? Hell hath no fury like Doug scorned, I guess... :D

He definitely caused it.

Last nite's ep was hilarious! SO GLAD to see a return to comedy, still mean, but funny as hell! Loved the scene with Andy and Doug in the hospital room. And the dog...

When Celia first came into the hospital room, she was So Mean.
Not caring for her ex's state of being and acting like a bitch infront of her daughter. That is Celia :p

That scene with Andy and Doug was very funny. Good episode.

The dancin' Doug at the end had me rolling.... but when Modine said he was going to have Doug killed, that took away the hilarity (of the dancin' Doug :D ) for me. Any other comedy, when someone says they’re going to kill you, it’s not taken seriously. On this show, I expect him to really kill Doug. :eek: That would be a big loss.
It was a very sick funny episode.

Weeds could not kill off Doug. IMO a lot of people like the character of Doug.
Maybe he will try and attempt to hurt him.

Doug is to Weeds as Kramer was to Seinfeld. It would be very hard to move forward without his character.

I didn't take the threat seriously. Modine's character is far too effective a "snake-oil salesman" to need to resort to a hired gun.

Doug - Hilarious, no way they kill him off.

Celia - I don't think those were here real boobs, meaning I think it was make up etc.. to make it look like she was a cancer survivor. I don't know how old she is but she's HOT.

MLP - HOT !

Wish every episode was as good as that one...

I replayed the ending a few times.
As might be inferred from my last post, I agree that this week’s episode was terrific. In fact, from and after the time they killed off U-Turn – albeit belatedly – and got Andy discharged from the Army it has been as good as it ever was, which is pretty damn good.

Harley_Dude - save the dirt shrew shirts and other stuff are at cafepress.com/minglife

Another hot ending.

Matthew Modine is such a lucky bastard!

WOOF WOOF

"What was that?"
:D

Yeah Dean inside the closet was funny. :)

I can't believe how deep Kevin Nealon's character is willing to go...

woo hoo! the show has gotten much better of late. We need more Shane. two threads aren't making sense to me...

1) why did Nancy seek out Peter's ex-wife? I don't see the motivation here.

2) why did Dean move into Celia's house?

gotta love Doug - "there's no sushi in prison...unless you count d*ck"

1) why did Nancy seek out Peter's ex-wife? I don't see the motivation here.The simple answer, on the surface is—they have a common bond. They are widowed moms trying to get through life.

2) why did Dean move into Celia's house?



I think the answer is easy here. It made sense to sell one house, and Celia can't sell hers since she doesn't actually own it.

1) why did Nancy seek out Peter's ex-wife? I don't see the motivation here.


I thought the show explained this perfectly at the end of that episode where Nancy and Valerie first meet. I'm talking about the scene where Sullivan and Celia are in bed together. While Nancy approaches the clinic where Valerie works, you hear Sullivan's monologue about how Celia and himself are alike, and how he has to know more about her.

I thought it was a very clever device, and it spelled out Nancy's motivations to a tee.

Nancy, you are a goddess and if you kill that arrogant woman Celia, I will build a shrine to you on my website. This episode rocked and I truly felt for poor Dean in the clutches of that horrible shrew.

I think this is the first time I see in TV a woman cleaning herself after having sex. That was too real. :)

I think the answer is easy here. It made sense to sell one house, and Celia can't sell hers since she doesn't actually own it.

tbertino - I would be inclined to agree except...


Dean & Celia were well on their way to divorce
Dean & Isabelle were living off her modeling career
Dean would've had motorcycle insurance to cover his recovery


at least they could've spent a few moments explaining this plot development that the other house had been sold. it's a big leap that left me thinking "how'd we get here?"

I thought the show explained this perfectly at the end of that episode where Nancy and Valerie first meet. I'm talking about the scene where Sullivan and Celia are in bed together. While Nancy approaches the clinic where Valerie works, you hear Sullivan's monologue about how Celia and himself are alike, and how he has to know more about her.

I thought it was a very clever device, and it spelled out Nancy's motivations to a tee.

AnimeNut - it's a clever device, yes, and that's precisely why it doesn't work with Nancy & Valerie. Even though he says it, you never believe that Sullivan & Celia are at all alike...he's just doing what he does - i.e. charms his way into whatever (in this case Celia's pants). in the history of the show Nancy hasn't sought out any widowed, single-Mom companionship. why Valerie? why now?

this show's narrative has been tighter than what we're getting this season. it's unfortunate because this could be a great show, rather than a good one.

God I love Doug. If/when this series ends someone should pick up Kevin Nealon and pretty much rip off the Doug character. Just the fact that he's a sleazy politician type but in a weirdly open and honest way (honest sleaziness?) is hilarious. His ******** veneer is like one micron thick and then you get the truth. That line from last night; "Volunteering is for saps, we expect to feed off the tit of local government just like you". Awesome, cuts right to the bone.

I continue to enjoy the show – a lot. It has been gratifying to see how the writers have turned around a season that started badly by killing off the unbearable U-Turn, figuring out a way to rid us of his equally wearing cousin, and getting Andy Botwin out of the Army. Clearly, the writers – finally – figured out that unpredictable violence and stupidity aren’t fertile fields for comedy.

I thought the development of Nancy’s relationship with the First Mrs. Scottson was well handled. There seemed to be a chemistry between them at first that was credible and the ensuing arguments over money have made sense, too. Anyway, it’s good to see that the show has regained its balance.

I also enjoy the creatively profane and amoral Doug. “Cankles,” indeed! :)

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Weeds is still a good show :p

I liked this past weeks episode. Doug was trying to sweet talk Celia and Celia did not want it. ha

Edit: I miss Californication.

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Weeds is still a good show :p

I liked this past weeks episode. Doug was trying to sweet talk Celia and Celia did not want it. ha

Agreed!

Season Finalie next week. The cross in the grow room looks like is going to cause some major problems!

Agreed here too!

I can't wait to see how they wrap this seasons stories up!

I miss Californiacation too.

The end was tonight. The pressure to snitch was too easy.
Doug in the religious circle was funny.
Where are they going next.

Is Weeds being renewed? It almost felt like it was over at the end of this Season's finale.

Is Weeds being renewed? It almost felt like it was over at the end of this Season's finale.

Obviously missed the "new episodes coming in 2008" splash. :) I did get the feeling that the season was truncated by the fires ...

Obviously missed the "new episodes coming in 2008" splash. :) I did get the feeling that the season was truncated by the fires ...

Yup, I watched the finale 'On Demand'. Well, that's good news.

I didn't notice the "coming in 2008". The way the show ended could have easily been the last show of all. Did anybody else notice the blow up sex doll behind the guy using the laptop in the evacuation "shelter"? Kevin Nealon was great in this episode.

larry

Just a great episode to end the season with. Reboot coming in '08. The look of relief, even satisfaction on Nancy's face while she was torching her own house ahead of the fires (just to be on the safe side, I guess) was telling - fire purifies. And then tooling off on the Segway. Kevin Nealon was gold running around the shelter with his banjo - great lyrics if you were paying attention. And Malvina Reynolds going Old School with the Little Boxes theme. I know some folks were disappointed with the early season arc involving U-Turn, but I hope they now realize that it was necessary to move Nancy along on her journey. Me, I loved 'em all. Great season! :D

Anyone know when S3 will come out on DVD and Blu?

Season Premier: Monday, June 16, 2008
http://www.sho.com/site/weeds/home.do.

Anyone know when S3 will come out on DVD and Blu?

http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1115

Lionsgate Home Entertainment has revealed the final specs for the upcoming Blu-ray release of 'Weeds: Season 3'. Video will be presented in 1080p widescreen, and be accompanied by a 7.1 PCM audio track. Extras include eight commentaries with cast and crew, seven Pop-Up trivia tracks, "Uncle AWOL" featurette, Mary-Kate Olsen biography, "Good Morning Agrestic!" featurette, gag reel, Weeds soundtrack sampler, and "Little Boxes" featurette and musical montage.

Exclusive to the Blu-ray release will be the interactive BD-Java game "Kush Kush and Away".

'Weeds: Season 3' is currently scheduled to be released June 3rd.

Interesting news about the upcoming season. Hate to see some of my favorites leaving the show but so long as they have "Doug" still in there, I will give it a chance :D

'Weeds' Smokes Out Cast (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,352397,00.html#3)

And wait, yes: You didn’t know that Malco was gone from "Weeds"? I’m told that most of the cast is gone as creator Jenji Kohan reinvents the show with Mary-Louise Parker, Elizabeth Perkins, Justin Kirk and Kevin Nealon surviving the move from fictional Agrestic, Calif. — which burned down at the end of last season — to a new spot in the Bay Area. That’s too bad: I’ll really miss those characters, particularly sassy Tonye Patano (as Heylia).

If the Botwins moved out of the area, how come Celia and Doug are still in the show?

If the Botwins moved out of the area, how come Celia and Doug are still in the show?

Logic would say that they must move to the Bay area with the Botwins to start phase two of the family business. That's just a guess...we'll have to wait until June to find out.

Doug and Celia lived in Agrestic/Majestic, so their houses must have burned as well. I don't know that we ever found out where Heylia and Conrad lived, but it wasn't Agrestic/Majestic.

They're moving closer to The Emerald Triangle, the biggest source of marijuana in the USA. :D

Damn, looks like Conrad's out. My wife will be very disappointed. Especially now that she's seen his bare ass on season 3.

Monday, June 16, 3008 is the 4th season of the show.
I am looking forward to it.
californication and Dexter is around the corner!
Showtime wins. haha

Monday, June 16, 3008 is the 4th season of the show.
I am looking forward to it.
californication and Dexter is around the corner!
Showtime wins. haha

And we thought waiting 8 months for the next Lost was gonna be tough - 12,000 months for Weeds will be impossible:D

Cant wait for it to start!

From fredfa's HOTPT

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?
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In its fourth season, Showtime's 'Weeds' finds Nancy Botwin border-bound
Creator Jenji Kohan gives Mary-Louise Parker's character a change of venue to stir up the dealing action.

By Lynn Smith, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer, June 8, 2008

MAYBE THE idea of a suburban mom selling pot just wasn't that subversive anymore. After all, cable TV also has suburban chemistry teachers making meth ("Breaking Bad") and suburban polygamists ("Big Love") hiding in tract homes. Even CBS is about to show suburban couples in mutual adultery ("Swingtown").

Maybe, as creator Jenji Kohan explained, the writers on "Weeds" were more excited about new projects they had in the works than the one they'd been writing for three seasons.

In any case, as writers embarked on the fourth season of Showtime's hit dramedy (returning June 16), Kohan decided to change the show's premise, moving Nancy Botwin ( Mary-Louise Parker) out of her natural habitat to someplace less stifling -- a California beach town near the Baja border. "It's a big TV taboo to move a show," she said. "The conventional wisdom is, you've built an audience that is tuning in to see this setting. If you move it, they'll get upset."

They still might. But Kohan, who revels in tweaking convention, said the borderlands offer an abundance of new opportunities for Nancy and her often raunchy and profane entourage to toy with sexual, political, racial and religious taboos. And to resharpen the show's original, sometimes precarious, edge.

Meanwhile, behind the scenes, creative arguments between Kohan and Parker have subsided, they both said, as a new executive producer directed the transition from the towns of Agrestic to Ren Mar. Parker, who won a Golden Globe for her role as the charming, self-centered widow and mother of two, said she was impressed with the changes. "I've never seen that. It's pretty brave," she said. "I like that."

The cast couldn't go home again, anyway. In the Season 3 finale, Nancy rode off into the sunset on a Segway with Agrestic in flames behind her. At loose ends, she decides, in the Season 4 premiere, to move in with her estranged father-in-law ( Albert Brooks) who lives in a scruffy house in a seaside town something like Del Mar. Establishing shots show Tijuana and the border crossing, but most outdoor locations were shot in Manhattan Beach. (Indoor scenes were filmed at the not-so-coincidently named Ren-Mar Studios.)

The geographic change precipitated many others, and soon the operating word for Season 4 became "reinvention." Malvina Reynolds' popular and much-covered theme song, "Little Boxes," had to go, along with the scene-setting titles that featured identically dressed suburbanites driving identical cars in identical neighborhoods.

The first episode will open with an empty swing set as a transition. After that, short title cards will introduce the theme of each episode and there will be no new music. "We weren't going to beat 'Little Boxes,' " Kohan said.

Some characters (business partners Heylia, Vaneeta and budding love interest Conrad) were left behind. Others, including brother-in-law Andy ( Justin Kirk) and Nancy's partner Doug (Kevin Nealon) have their reasons for tagging along. BFF Celia (Elizabeth Perkins), who took the fall for Nancy last season after informing on her, is preoccupied with jailhouse issues of her own.

Notably, Brooks will return to television in a special guest-star role as Nancy's father-in-law, Len Botwin, who cares for his comatose mother at home. And Nancy's old supplier Guillermo (Guillermo Diaz) will have a bigger role teaching her about trafficking on the border.

In this election year, Kohan said, the writers are exploring hot-button issues in the national debate, such as immigration and the drug trade. For homework, the creative team did a ride-along with the border patrol in Tijuana on a random weekday afternoon and returned with a treasure chest of dramatic scenarios, she said.

Antiheroine's attraction

WHEN THE show was set in what looked like the (San Fernando) Valley, its fans -- surprisingly, a large number of teens and college students -- liked its outlaw tone, even if the outlaw was a fortysomething single mom who still had friends on the school board. The characters were outrageously outspoken in the way allowed only by pay cable. Their politics were clearly to the left: Nancy's son once won a school debate contest with a two-word argument for the popular vote: " George Bush." A cross stolen from a church was used as a grow light for marijuana plants. Heylia observed that white neighbors who greeted her with a cheery "Hello!" were really saying, "I'm not a racist."

After its first season as Showtime's top-rated original series, "Weeds" settled in as No. 2, behind "Dexter." Last year, the show became the network's most-watched by the cherished 18-to-34 demographic. Parker won the Golden Globe in 2006 for her performance, and the series has received several Emmy Award nominations.

Not all critics felt the show succeeded completely, but others raved about its offbeat sensibility, a wry, dark tone popularized by shows such as "Curb Your Enthusiasm" and "Arrested Development."

In Season 4 as before, "We go after everyone," Kohan said. "No one's exempt." Nancy refers to Ren Mar's blond surfers as "beach Nazis," and much is made of her Jewish father-in-law's disappointment that his son married a shiksa.

The point, Kohan said, is to show that you can still like some people who do, think or say awful things. "It's up to individuals to make their case," she said. "So much of this show exists in gray areas. There are well-intentioned people who screw up, bad people who get rewarded," she said.

Parker said that Nancy doesn't make what she would call admirable choices, but she does have "a certain charm. Charming people are not always kind. You can be seduced by what looks like sweetness, but it's not. It's a misplaced narcissism. Sometimes it's a survival technique. Sometimes it's just hollow."

To Kohan, the mix is comforting, a sign that all people are flawed and doing the best they can. "No one is living up to the unreal expectations placed on us."

"Weeds" fit ideally into Showtime's quest for the unconventional and controversial -- and predictable questions were raised in the first seasons about the basic premise of a mother selling pot. Some others were shocked that Celia jokingly told her daughter she wished she'd had an abortion. Kohan said her own children, ages 8, 6 and 2, don't watch the show. But "teens are very sophisticated. It's not my job to monitor what people watch. If kids are watching a cable show in the middle of the night, it's inappropriate and not my responsibility."

Kohan belongs to a family of creative heavies, including her father, Buz, an Emmy-winning comedy writer; her brother David, co-creator of "Will & Grace"; her husband, writer Christopher Noxon ("Rejuvenile: Kickball, Cartoons, Cupcakes, and the Reinvention of the American Grown-up"); and his sister Marti Noxon, formerly an executive producer on "Brothers & Sisters." Kohan's credits also include work on "Sex and the City" and "Will & Grace."

This season of "Weeds" may also draw flak for situations and dialogue involving children. Indeed, Kohan said, "My biggest concern is for the children [actors] in our show. We do pretty edgy stuff." She said some scenes involving children were shot separately, so that the young actors were not on a set when adult actors were filming a sex scene, for instance. "Once the show is cut together," she said, "it will look pretty bad."

Nancy, however, will be called upon to make some tough moral decisions, Kohan said.

In an environment free of the typical social conventions of suburbia, Nancy has a chance to build a life on her own terms, Kohan said. According to Parker, the task is like breaking an addiction to her old environment. It requires her character to become more aware and more proactive than she's ever been.

Until this season, Parker said, Nancy has been "propelled from one thing to the next by the momentum of her depression and disassociation." But each season, as the tone has grown darker, her character has become less passive, she said. "Before she was kind of nowhere. Now she's at least in the present without a clear understanding of past or future."

This season Nancy will have a new boss, played by Demián Bichir, and a new love interest. Those close to the production would not say whether the sexy star's character turns out to be one and the same.

The complicated role of Nancy was always hard to pin down emotionally, Parker said. "She's pretty narcissistic. She relates to people based on what she needs from them." She has a dry wit but mostly laughs at others. And she behaves naively as if nothing could ever hurt her. "I can't relate to that," Parker said.

In shooting the new season, Parker said she's had to deal with Nancy's new voices. "It takes consideration to bring it together," said Parker, who had worked onstage and in movies before taking this role. One recent evening after a day of shooting, she said she realized she had put too much of herself into a big scene. She said she beseeched director (and co-executive producer) Craig Zisk to reshoot it the next day. Though television's quick pace typically precludes such reshoots, Parker said Zisk found the time. They were both happier with the result, she said.

That wasn't always the case in the early days when news spread about a rift between Parker and Kohan over creative issues. Parker said she's not really interested in "likability," a key issue for television executives.

"She'd never done television before," Kohan said. "There were characters and material she often found objectionable. TV is different from theater and movies. There's a different relationship between the writer and performer. We had to find common ground."

"It's impossible to work with someone every day and not disagree with them," Parker said. "I don't know if she [Kohan] has had a lot of people disagree with her."

Now, both said, they had put those conflicts behind them and have been able to develop a respect and an affection, even, though they might not ever be lunch buddies. Kohan said now when disagreements arise, they can talk about them or, if not, e-mail or communicate through Zisk.

"She's brilliant at what she does," Kohan said of Parker. "She breathed life into this character. We made our peace. We share the baby."

How long the on-screen drama in Ren Mar will last is anybody's guess. "We've mapped out at least two years here," Kohan said. "Who knows where life will go from here? To a certain extent, we reinvent the show every season. This is just a larger reinvention.

"I can't think too far ahead or my head will explode."

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Scheduled reminder: Showtime's premier night- 06/16.
Should be a great night of programming.

I can hardly wait for tonight.

Good stuff. The role of the father is nice. Got to hear some 'old stories' from Andy.
Not too sure about going over the border for that new job. Everybody turned against Celia! ha

I agree that Albert Brooks is a welcome addition to the Weeds cast. He is a charming, funny guy, who should be terrific as another Botwin. I really liked watching the Weeds reruns and then the first show of the new season last night. I had missed Weeds.

I honestly couldn't believe when the episode ended that it had been 30 minutes. It just flew right by for me. I'm excited to see where they take the series this year.

^^^
Same thoughts here....
It's got to be the fastest half-hour on TV!

I agree that Albert Brooks is a welcome addition to the Weeds cast. He is a charming, funny guy, who should be terrific as another Botwin. I really liked watching the Weeds reruns and then the first show of the new season last night. I had missed Weeds.

Definitely agree about the addition of Brooks, in fact, had the whole episode taken place in that house I'd have been happy, great stuff.

Definitely agree about the addition of Brooks, in fact, had the whole episode taken place in that house I'd have been happy, great stuff.
Its not just his delivery. The dead pan facial expressions are a riot as well. Be great if they could get his uncle Mel on board. ;)

BTW, I think Albert Brooks is responsible for one of the very best underrated films of his generation, "Defending Your Life".

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Its not just his delivery. The dead pan facial expressions are a riot as well. Be great if they could get his uncle Mel on board. ;)

BTW, I think Albert Brooks is responsible for one of the very best underrated films of his generation, "Defending Your Life".

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Palladin

Chance favors the prepared mind

Haven't seen it, but just added it to my "queue", and regarding Netflix, the following is pretty funny, in fact, the whole site is funny. :)

http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/01/29/38-netflix/

I'll second the endorsement of "Defending Your Life", great flick.

Last night's "Weeds" seemed to warp time for me too. I didn't believe it had been 30 min. when it ended. Good episode though.

Loved that movie definitely a must watch. I third that suggestion of how quick that half hour went.

I'll second the endorsement of "Defending Your Life", great flick.

Last night's "Weeds" seemed to warp time for me too. I didn't believe it had been 30 min. when it ended. Good episode though.

Im glad I wasnt the only one that felt that way at the end..I was like WTF????? Where did the 1/2 hour go......

To continue the discussion of wonderful movies that Albert Brooks was in, one of my all time favorites is Broadcast News. One of Brooks’ many great lines comes after his disastrous appearance as a news anchor, during which he got the flop sweats. Afterwards his friend, Jane (Holly Hunter), asks, “People called in complaining about your sweating?,” to which he replies, “No, NICE calls, worried that I was having a heart attack.” That’s just one of many wonderful zingers in a terrific movie.

I'll second the endorsement of "Defending Your Life", great flick.

Agree a great film. I also am a fan of Lost in America.

Agree a great film. I also am a fan of Lost in America.

Put me down for a MODERN ROMANCE vote. So funny it hurts! Too many classic quotables.

Nobody brought up the thread this week? :eek:
Shane with the diaper was a bit wild. Albert's role in this season is great.

I thought it was a riot. Love Nancy's naivete. Did it look like Celia's daughter (forgot her name) actually felt sorry for her?
Let's hope this season doesn't venture too far into U-turn territory.

I liked this week’s episode, too. I just hope it doesn’t get as dark and ugly as it did at times last season. So far, so good, though.

I loved what Lenny’s claim that Andy had stolen $20,000 from him turned out to be: Andy’s failure as a child to bet $100 his father had given him on a trifecta, which won for the first and only time in the old man’s life. Better yet, it turned out that Andy had regularly spent money on himself that Lenny had given him to place bets with because his grandmother told him to do it, but the old man never knew because all of his would be bets were losers, anyway. Priceless! TV writing can be inspired sometimes and this was one of those times.

Isabelle, Celia’s daughter, wasn’t the only one to feel sorry for Celia, I felt sorry for her, too. Celia may be a miserable excuse for a human being but it was lies that put her behind bars where she, unlike Nancy and a bunch of others, does not belong. It does appear, though, that the DEA guy is finally figuring that out.

I got a laugh out of Celia's jailhouse makeover.

Once again time was warped by Weeds. When the credits rolled i had to check my watch.

I got a laugh out of Celia's jailhouse makeover.

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Agreed! The make-up job was hilarious. I almost didn't recognize her the first time they showed her that way. Loved the 'public lawyer scene too'!
:D

Through the first two episodes, I'm not enjoying Weeds as much as I have in prior seasons. I miss Heylia and Conrad, and don't care much for Guillermo's character. More that that, though, Nancy has turned annoying. In season's past, despite the fact that she was a pot dealer, I empathized with her situation and liked her. This year, I'm not buying into Nancy's naivety, as someone here called it. It's almost as if MLP is playing a different character this year than the first three seasons. I hope it gets better. And I hope they find a way to give Doug a more prominent role. He's one of the best TV characters of all-time.

It does appear, though, that the DEA guy is finally figuring that out.That photo the DEA showed Celia was pretty lame. It looked like a screen cap from the last episode. They should have chosen a different angle or something.

I got a laugh out of Celia's jailhouse makeover.

Once again time was warped by Weeds. When the credits rolled i had to check my watch.
Yeah, that was funny. Same here, my company said "That was all?"

And I hope they find a way to give Doug a more prominent role. He's one of the best TV characters of all-time.
Agreed. You don't see his role too much this season, although it is only the 2nd episode.

The show is still good, but I do miss the whole hypocritical surburbia setting.

The show is still good, but I do miss the whole hypocritical surburbia setting.

Agreed. The whole premise of a soccer mom dealing drugs in the 'perfect' neighborhood was the basis of the show. A single mom fleeing the law and selling drugs near Mexico isn't really such a bombshell.

Agreed. The whole premise of a soccer mom dealing drugs in the 'perfect' neighborhood was the basis of the show. A single mom fleeing the law and selling drugs near Mexico isn't really such a bombshell.

In a way, the show is a victim of its own success. They had just plumb mined out that territory, and in order to "freshen things up", needed to change locals and introduce new characters. If everybody involved in the production feels like things have gotten stale and tired, you'll see that fatigue on the screen. The change in setting was designed to reinvigorate both the audience and the production team. I'm enjoying it so far although, like others have mentioned, I do miss Heylia and Conrad, and want to see more of Doug.

I miss Agrestic, too, who wouldn’t. Still, I am enjoying watching Nancy operate on a bigger stage and branching out into drug trafficking, not to mention the addition to the cast of the terrific Albert Brooks. I am not sure that it could work, but for the presence of the beautiful and hyper-charming Mary-Louise Parker but she has kept me interested. I have been enjoying this season and am looking forward to seeing more.

I agree, though, that we haven’t seen enough of Doug yet this season. Kevin Nealon is a funny dude.

Doug skipped out yesterday. Hopefully that was only for that episode.
I liked the scene where Andy and his father were at the beach. I guess pulling the plug would not be a crime? Looks like Celia is is doing better.

I was so looking forward to the return of Weeds, but I'm already bored with this season after three episodes. They've taken a great show and turned it into a below average one. Very disappointing. I'll stick with it through the season, but my expectations have been lowered significantly.

I agree, though, that we haven’t seen enough of Doug yet this season. Kevin Nealon is a funny dude.

Yep. Needs more Doug.

I was so looking forward to the return of Weeds, but I'm already bored with this season after three episodes. They've taken a great show and turned it into a below average one. Very disappointing. I'll stick with it through the season, but my expectations have been lowered significantly.

i couldn't agree more, what a shame.

I was so looking forward to the return of Weeds, but I'm already bored with this season after three episodes. They've taken a great show and turned it into a below average one. Very disappointing. I'll stick with it through the season, but my expectations have been lowered significantly.

I'm already bored with it as well. It just doesn't flow like the last 3 seasons. I'll keep watching hoping that it picks up.

I was so looking forward to the return of Weeds, but I'm already bored with this season after three episodes. They've taken a great show and turned it into a below average one. Very disappointing. I'll stick with it through the season, but my expectations have been lowered significantly.

i couldn't agree more, what a shame.

Yep, there will always be people like you.

Yep, there will always be people like you.

and like you. :rolleyes:

I still believe this superb show should be longer.. 30 mins jus won't cut it!!! they should do a "the office" type 1 hour specials..

I love Parker, she's not your typical blonde bimbo but has something that makes me faint..

Yep. Needs more Doug.

I'd love to see Albert Brooks and Kevin Nealon move in to a grow house together and become the focus of the show. :)

Finally saw the episode last night and, like gruven42, am a wee bit surprised at all the hate for this season/episode. What did we have this last ep? Another great soliloquy from Andy - dang, Justin Kirk has great comedic chops - with another one from Nancy, both of whom are trying to justify euthanasia on a family member they haven't seen in years. It's subversive, diabolical, and dang funny - just like the series as a whole has been, for the most part, every single week. Also, we got another great scene with Celia and the detective, one with Doug and Dean (a modern day Matthau & Lemmon? just kidding ;) ), and Albert Brooks offending us and then unexpectedly endearing us with that great scene with Shane at the end where he learns offing Bubby, and euthanasia in general, is not as simple as it might initially appear. One of the great things about this series is it gets you, perhaps subconciously, to think about issues that you might prefer not to think about - and does it with humor and without beating you over the head. And, finally, we have Nancy, giddy with her success at her first "mule" run (and we know that elation is going to come crashing down around her ears with more dark comedic angles poking about than we can imagine).

So, hey, if you feel Weeds has gotten lost in the....well....weeds, then I've got the perfect comedy for you: 'Two and a Half Men'. Comedic genius; give it a try; you won't be disappointed. Me, I'll just settle for this little show that's become so "boring", "below average", and "disappointing". Hmmm.....were all TV this bad....

So, hey, if you feel Weeds has gotten lost in the....well....weeds, then I've got the perfect comedy for you: 'Two and a Half Men'. Comedic genius; give it a try; you won't be disappointed. Me, I'll just settle for this little show that's become so "boring", "below average", and "disappointing". Hmmm.....were all TV this bad....

Agreed. Some people are just not content unless they find something, however minute, to complain about everything.

Still think the funniest segment was the Tape Review of the first trip to Mexico.

The Blah Speech
The speech at the fuse box
Dad and Son drinking a beer on the beach

It's certainly different than the previous seasons, but there nothing I can call boring about this season.
And I hope that I have a relative like "Not Francine" in my family if I'm even remotely in a situation like Grandma.

And I hope that I have a relative like "Not Francine" in my family if I'm even remotely in a situation like Grandma.

You can ensure that with an Advance Health Care Directive which incorporates a Living Will and specify exactly under what conditions you wish health care professionals to withhold extraordinary measures keeping you alive or simply prolonging your death. One done properly for Bubbie would have not only alleviated any moral or ethical guilt, but would have removed any ambiguity about her wishes and about the legality of it too.

You can ensure that with an Advance Health Care Directive which incorporates a Living Will and specify exactly under what conditions you wish health care professionals to withhold extraordinary measures keeping you alive or simply prolonging your death. One done properly for Bubbie would have not only alleviated any moral or ethical guilt, but would have removed any ambiguity about her wishes and about the legality of it too.

Yeah, but it would have made it harder to mine the comedic possibilities of her condition. Dark, dark humor is a staple of this show.

Awesome episode last night.
Silas, Andy and Doug in the van was a funny scene.

I'm sure Andy gets in trouble walking away with that crowed.

Celia got into some trouble at the end of the episode. I 'hear' the new business will take place in a maternity store.

I was pleased that Doug showed up at Nancy's, too. It looks like things will be ramping up. I can't wait to see what Celia does to keep the DEA guy off of her back while she keeps Nancy and the Mexicans happy.

IMO Guillermo has stolen the show. That is one funny dude. "the money doesnt like it when you question it", "yeah but no juice box"

Great episode.

Although I do hope they manage to convince Albert Brooks to return for a few episodes - I love his character.

Although I do hope they manage to convince Albert Brooks to return for a few episodes - I love his character.
most definitely.

Great episode.

Although I do hope they manage to convince Albert Brooks to return for a few episodes - I love his character.

Me too, but his commitment was for four episodes, and now we've seen them. Also, they have explained his character's disappearance with his going to Paris to live as a professional gambler. If we see him return, it's likely to be in another season, assuming there is one, and only for an episode or two. I wouldn't count on it.

Yeah, I'm not counting on it, especially since they are on record as already trying to get him for more episodes with no luck.

Just got around to this weeks show. Hilarious episode! I loved the shiva.
Doug is pure gold. The scene with Andy and Nancy at the border was hysterical.
I also like Guillermo (he sure aint no U-turn!) Hopefully Celia will switch sides (again)
and join the fun.

Doug is pure gold.


Indeed.


I also like Guillermo (he sure aint no U-turn!)

Yeah, although I really miss Conrad, Guillermo is turning out to be a very colorful, intelligent, and witty character. He's likeable too. I hated U-turn. He was just a bully and a jerk. I was glad when Marvin let him die (choked him, even).

Great episode tonight!
Andy shot that guy, don't think that was smart.
I liked the scene where Nancy was speaking to Capt. Tillman spoke.

Great episode tonight!
Andy shot that guy, don't think that was smart.
I liked the scene where Nancy was speaking to Capt. Tillman spoke.

Yep, some great scenes in last nights episode, love the scene at the dinner table.

This week’s episode was GREAT television. I loved the way Andy shot the mean Mexican coyote in the knee and how Nancy put Captain Till in his place. Both scenes had me laughing out loud.

It will be interesting to see how Nancy’s interaction with “The Guy in the Suit,” Guillermo ‘s boss, will develop. He seems like a formidable fellow who will be a worthy foil for Nancy, who has proved to be equally formidable in her charming but sneaky way.

This show’s unrelenting nihilism of is great fun.

Agree - another good one.

Had some concerns that they may actually remove Nancy from the drug trade (big mistake IMO), but looks like she'll continue to meddle.

I have very little interest in watching a show about selling clothes to pregnant women. :)

Well, I still like the show, and think that MLP is a babe, but last night's violence got to me a bit. Whacking teeth out and driving around with a head gripped in the window is not quite my idea of laughing material.

Well, I still like the show, and think that MLP is a babe, but last night's violence got to me a bit. Whacking teeth out and driving around with a head gripped in the window is not quite my idea of laughing material.

I, on the other hand, was cracking up!!

Well, I still like the show, and think that MLP is a babe, but last night's violence got to me a bit. Whacking teeth out and driving around with a head gripped in the window is not quite my idea of laughing material.

I thought it was funny. Also it would have been quite a bit more violent had Nancy not done that stuff to Celia... Because Guillermo would have killed her!

Yeah....I knew I'd be in the minority.
It won't stop me from watching it though!

Yep, some great scenes in last nights episode, love the scene at the dinner table.

oh man, i was cracking up when the camera panned the table, with that cast of characters. :D

Yeah, great episode this week. I kept laughing the whole episode.

That table scene reminded me of the pot circle in 'That 70's Show'. Those were some of the funniest moments in that series.

lol when the camera panned around it really was hilarious to see all their faces and what they consider to be a functioning family, haha I wonder whats going on in the "hole"????

So what exactly was Nancy's advantage over Capt. Tillman? Something to do with her the DEA husband, but I didn't quite get it. :confused:

So what exactly was Nancy's advantage over Capt. Tillman? Something to do with her the DEA husband, but I didn't quite get it. :confused:

Her "husband" was quite dirty, and Tillman knows it; heck, he might even have been in on it. The DEA has a vested interest in not letting those facts become known. Got their reputation to protect. So, in essence, Nancy is blackmailing him to leave her alone. She also knows, and told him, that all his physical evidence went up in smoke with her house, so he'd have a tough case to prove in any event.

OK. I thought there was some specific event I had forgotten about that Nancy might have been alluding to.

Her "husband" was quite dirty, and Tillman knows it; heck, he might even have been in on it. The DEA has a vested interest in not letting those facts become known. Got their reputation to protect. So, in essence, Nancy is blackmailing him to leave her alone. She also knows, and told him, that all his physical evidence went up in smoke with her house, so he'd have a tough case to prove in any event.
Yeah, Nancy understands that the last thing Till would want would be for the misconduct of her now dead sort-of husband, Peter Scotson, to become public. After all, the crookedness apparently all went down under Till’s command. Indeed, Till may have been complicit. It seems to me, though, that the best thing Nancy has going for her is that she appears to be a bunch smarter than Till.

I want those "marzipan pigs" (it's actually spelled "mazapan", since they are from Mexico), if you don't know what that is is just basically pulverized peanuts with sugar and compressed again to form, yes, pigs...

Hey didn't that tunnel was way too shot to get from store to store (in different countries)?, it should be at least a mile long. I guess they really didn't show how long exactly is..

Her "husband" was quite dirty, and Tillman knows it; heck, he might even have been in on it. The DEA has a vested interest in not letting those facts become known. Got their reputation to protect. So, in essence, Nancy is blackmailing him to leave her alone. She also knows, and told him, that all his physical evidence went up in smoke with her house, so he'd have a tough case to prove in any event.Maybe so, but Im sure he could nab her while running drugs for new boss or operating a tunnel for drug transport.

Maybe so, but Im sure he could nab her while running drugs for new boss or operating a tunnel for drug transport.

Doesn't matter. The "deterrent" to him investigating her further is her knowledge of Peter's illegal activities. He nabs her, for anything, and she sings like a canary. That's plenty of incentive to leave her alone.

That said, I don't think we've seen the last of Captain Till... he still wants Gomez. Bad.

This week's episode was the first great one of the season. It appears that they're back and headed in the right direction. I was a big critic of the first three episodes this season, and I'm happy with the new direction.

Looking forward to next week's ep...

I want those "marzipan pigs" (it's actually spelled "marzipan", since they are from Mexico), if you don't know what that is is just basically pulverized peanuts with sugar and compressed again to form, yes, pigs...

Marzipan is sugar and ground almonds. If Mexicans are using peanuts, they are making a different confection.

Good episode. Silas is one lucky kid with the serious MILF action going on! Who plays that woman? She is super hot!
I really do enjoy this show, but it is a totally different show at this point than what we started out with. As much as I am enjoying this season, I do still miss the original feel of the show when it premiered, the themes and such.

Good episode. Silas is one lucky kid with the serious MILF action going on! Who plays that woman? She is super hot!
I really do enjoy this show, but it is a totally different show at this point than what we started out with. As much as I am enjoying this season, I do still miss the original feel of the show when it premiered, the themes and such.


her name is julie bowen. thank god for google, lol.

Good episode. Silas is one lucky kid with the serious MILF action going on! Who plays that woman? She is super hot!
I really do enjoy this show, but it is a totally different show at this point than what we started out with. As much as I am enjoying this season, I do still miss the original feel of the show when it premiered, the themes and such.

her name is julie bowen. thank god for google, lol.


joetoronot beat me to it. The super hot MILF is Julie Bowen (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0100866/)and her and Silas will be seeing more of each other this season! :)

Doesn't she play Jack Shepard's wife (er, ex-wife) on LOST? Not a big part; last year she got about 30 seconds of screen time.

joetoronot beat me to it. The super hot MILF is Julie Bowen (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0100866/)and her and Silas will be seeing more of each other this season! :)

Doesn't she play Jack Shepard's wife (er, ex-wife) on LOST? Not a big part; last year she got about 30 seconds of screen time.

Link provided above, but to answer your question she played Sarah on Lost in 5 episodes.

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"Wainy Days" .... Cheryl (1 episode, 2007)
- Tough Guy (2007) TV episode .... Cheryl
"Boston Legal" .... Denise Bauer (51 episodes, 2005-2007)
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- Duck and Cover (2007) TV episode .... Denise Bauer
- Guantanamo by the Bay (2007) TV episode (credit only) .... Denise Bauer
- Tea and Sympathy (2007) TV episode .... Denise Bauer
- Guise 'n Dolls (2007) TV episode .... Denise Bauer
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"Lost" .... Sarah (5 episodes, 2005-2007)
- Through the Looking Glass (2007) TV episode .... Sarah
- A Tale of Two Cities (2006) TV episode .... Sarah
- The Hunting Party (2006) TV episode .... Sarah
- Man of Science, Man of Faith (2005) TV episode .... Sarah
- Do No Harm (2005) TV episode .... Sarah
Sex and Death 101 (2007) .... Fiona Wormwood
Partner(s) (2005) .... Katherine
Kids in America (2005) .... Principal Weller
"Jake in Progress" .... Brooke (4 episodes, 2005)
- Henry Porter and the Coitus Interruptus (2005) TV episode .... Brooke
- Jake or the Fat Man (2005) TV episode .... Brooke
- Boys' Night Out (2005) TV episode .... Brooke
- Loose Thread (2005) TV episode .... Brooke
"Ed" .... Carol Vessey (83 episodes, 2000-2004)
- Happily Ever After (2004) TV episode .... Carol Vessey
- Best Wishes (2004) TV episode .... Carol Vessey
- Pressure Points (2004) TV episode .... Carol Vessey
- Hidden Agendas (2004) TV episode .... Carol Vessey
- Back in the Saddle (2004) TV episode .... Carol Vessey
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Stella Shorts 1998-2002 (2002) (V) .... Mother Nature
"Justice League" .... Aresia (2 episodes, 2002)
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Joe Somebody (2001) .... Meg Harper
Venus and Mars (2001) .... Lisa
Amy's Orgasm (2001) .... Nikki
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... aka Why Love Doesn't Work (USA)
You're Killing Me... (2001) .... Jamie Quinn
"Dawson's Creek" .... Aunt Gwen (1 episode, 2000)
- Stolen Kisses (2000) TV episode .... Aunt Gwen
"Oh Baby" .... Nikky (1 episode, 2000)
- What It Should Be and What It Is (2000) TV episode .... Nikky


"ER" .... Roxanne Please (9 episodes, 1998-1999)
- Power (1999) TV episode .... Roxanne Please
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- The Good Fight (1998) TV episode .... Roxanne Please
- Hazed and Confused (1998) TV episode .... Roxanne Please
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The Last Man on Planet Earth (1999) (TV) .... Hope Chayse
"Three" .... Amanda Webb (2 episodes, 1998)
- Hope (1998) TV episode .... Amanda Webb
- You Are Cordially Required (1998) TV episode .... Amanda Webb
An American Werewolf in Paris (1997) .... Amy Finch
... aka American Werewolf 2
... aka Loup-garou de Paris, Le (France)
Multiplicity (1996) .... Robin
Happy Gilmore (1996) .... Virginia
"Strange Luck" .... Leigh Anne (1 episode, 1996)
- Healing Hands (1996) TV episode .... Leigh Anne
"Party of Five" .... Shelley (1 episode, 1996)
- Unfair Advantage (1996) TV episode .... Shelley
Confessions of a Sleep Addict (1996) .... P.J.
"Extreme" .... Andie McDermott (7 episodes, 1995)
- Into the Deep (1995) TV episode .... Andie McDermott
- Death Do Us Part (1995) TV episode .... Andie McDermott
- Competitive Edge (1995) TV episode .... Andie McDermott
- Higher Ground (1995) TV episode .... Andie McDermott
- Breaking Away (1995) TV episode .... Andie McDermott
(2 more)
Where Are My Children? (1994) (TV) .... Kirstie
Runaway Daughters (1994) (TV) .... Angie Gordon
"Acapulco H.E.A.T." .... Danielle Perkins (1 episode, 1993)
- Code Name: Body Double (1993) TV episode .... Danielle Perkins
"Class of '96" .... Kristie Lewis (1 episode, 1993)
- Educating David (1993) TV episode .... Kristie Lewis
"Lifestories: Families in Crisis" .... Chris (1 episode, 1993)
- No Visible Bruises: The Katie Koestner Story (1993) TV episode .... Chris
"Loving" (1983) TV series (unknown episodes, 1992)
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Just reading her referenced IMBD page, she has a pacemaker! :eek:

Just reading her referenced IMBD page, she has a pacemaker! :eek:You tweaked my interests, since I rarely look past the main credit page on IMDB, so I went back to see where you found that fact. Unfortunate, I guess, that she has a pacemaker, but I never would have discovered that. The turtle info derailed me. Sounds like something Larry David would put on a resume for one of his characters.:D

i'd get that ticker goin real fast, lol. :p

Maybe it was a typo? :cool:


http://www.subversiveinfluence.com/images/blogposts/colt45-peacemaker.jpg

Too bad Jack Shepard isn't a heart surgeon. That'd be weird. ;)

Agreed, Silas with the milf.
Good episode. Doug and Andy trying to pick her up was good stuff.

Whoa, kinky and weird episode! That very final scene with Shane was as weird as they come, LOL. From Silas and his Mrs. Robinson, the spanking, and DEA agents, etc, this episode was out there!

I have to hand it this show, there really is an arc in character development here. Nancy is much more aggressive and even a little cold hearted compared to a year ago. The look on Guillermo's face as he unloaded the 'product' to her was priceless--'sorry, it's just business'

Good episode. Yeah, you could tell Guillermo was mad. She went over his head! Gosh Silas is so lucky to get with Mrs. Robinson. She's hot, and naughty. It was nice seeing old cast. Lupita, Sanjay & Marvin.

Whoa, kinky and weird episode!Yeah, they turned the weird dial all the way up. :p

So I guess Shane has his own interpretation of the slang MILF-- a little too close to home, as opposed to his brother Silas, who has the more traditional approach to the expression. :cool:

The filmmakers have an unusual way of portraying law enforcement. Over the years they show them as corrupt, inept, killed them off, and now, they have them switching teams, in mid season. :eek: :D

That was wild, forgot about Shane's itching.

I love this show, not least because it is so shameless. If it has shock value, you will see it on Weeds. Let the good times roll! :)

That was about the weirdest montage I've ever seen (Shane' Oedipus itching, the gay cops, Silias and the milf, what else was in that scene?)

That was wild, forgot about Shane's itching.

what was he scratching? or was that not the point?

what was he scratching? or was that not the point?They were being polite ;) to Shane when they said "scratching."
You can say he was “master of his domain.” (http://www.tv.com/seinfeld/the-contest/episode/2291/summary.html) :D

what was he scratching? or was that not the point?

Think about it...... he wasn't scratching anything he was jerking something though. :)

At the end when he was "scratching" while looking at the nude photos of his mom, would that be considered "incestuous scratching". :confused: :eek:

They were being polite ;) to Shane when they said "scratching."
You can say he was “master of his domain.” (http://www.tv.com/seinfeld/the-contest/episode/2291/summary.html) :D

Actually he wasn't being the 'master of his domain'. If he were the "master of his domain" he would have refrained from "scratching".

That's what that whole Seinfeld episode was about. If your "scratched" you were no longer the 'master of your domain' and lost the bet.

Actually he wasn't being the 'master of his domain'. If he were the "master of his domain" he would have refrained from "scratching". I am fully aware of the episode I linked. I was using the term as a tactful and humorous euphemism.

I am fully aware of the episode I linked. I was using the term as a tactful and humorous euphemism.

In that case you should have said "he wasn't the 'master of his domain' (http://www.tv.com/seinfeld/the-contest/episode/2291/summary.html), which would have been "a tactful and humorous euphemism" as well as correct statemen. ;)

I think last night's episode was certainly the best this season. Many many story lines opening up that are hysterical.

I particularly liked Shane's stepping up to be the "general contractor" for Nancy's new bathroom, recruiting the workers from the collection of day workers brought in for lunch by Doug and Andy who were doing "market research" for their new "compassionate coyote" business, entertaining them with excellent mufalato sandwiches.

And then there was Shane and his computer during the earlier discussions. On the computer screen was the GUI for a stockmarket trading/watching system, as if he was following the market. I thought that was hilarious.

And what about Sanjay and his girlfriend, with a 2-week old baby that was ENORMOUS! Very funny stuff, as were the other cameos from Lupita and Marvin and their dialogs.

And then there's Isabelle's interactions with Celia.

Last night's episode had so many little individual gems that I was reminded of Don Martin's cartoons in "Mad" magazine, just chock full of amusing random and bizarre visuals all over each frame.

Kind of also reminds me a bit of the weirdness and pace of "Arrested Development", but on a much more premium channel cable TV adult level.

Excellent stuff last night (as was "Secret Diary of a Call Girl", I might add).

Thanks for clueing me in boys.

The writing staff seems to be much more creative and sharp this season... including how they now open the show each week with a unique and different credits/lead-in and some different visual object's image morphing into a pot plant. No more "Little Boxes" and the same visual as in seasons past.

Also, Nancy's uber-hip and politically sarcastic oh-so-current pop reference to "the Interweb" last night was perfectly placed.

Hope the rest of the season stays on this new course. I find it much more entertaining now that they've widened the subject horizons beyond Agrestic and brought in a no-longer-pregnant and well-restored Julie Bowen to entice a now-mature Silas, including some very graphic hand-grabbing and visuals. I thought Julie was going to go through the ceiling when Silas glommed onto her gazongas and gave them a good kneading! Kudos to her acting ability.

man, nobody's talking about nancy and her nice...red...butt with the u-turn tattoo on it.

it looked scrumptious to me. :)

...uber-hip and politically sarcastic oh-so-current pop reference to "the Interweb" ...I am afraid to ask:D—but what do you mean by the-- uber-hip and politically sarcastic oh-so-current pop reference to "the Interweb?” It’s not a very current term. “Interweb” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interweb) has been around for several years, unless I’m missing something.:)

In addition, as far as the writers inserting a political edge, I think they’ve actually toned it down, a lot, since season two when it was discussed here as an awkward device.

man, nobody's talking about nancy and her nice...red...butt with the u-turn tattoo on it.

it looked scrumptious to me. :)

+1

The best episode of the season....so far.

I am afraid to ask:D—but what do you mean by the-- uber-hip and politically sarcastic oh-so-current pop reference to "the Interweb?” It’s not a very current term. “Interweb” (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interweb) has been around for several years, unless I’m missing something.:)Well you're right, in that the term [an improper cross of "internet" and "World Wide Web" by newbies] has been around for a while. And the Wiki description of its use is perfectly accurate: "Referring to the Internet as the interweb mocks the inexperience and ignorance of these newcomers, whose lack of understanding of the workings of the 'net' would often amuse or annoy the more experienced."

Its political association stems from George Bush's famous malapropism when he referred to "the Internets" during a Presidential Debate and received much deserved scorn at the time for this revelatory remark and his apparent lack of Web-savvy.

Anyway, "the Internets" has now become part of our jargon and is used caustically, negatively, demeaningly and sarcastically when discussing someone's lack of web-savvy. No question when you use that phrase in conversation you are implicitly and simultaneously slamming George Bush and revealing your political persuasion, even if the conversation has nothing to do with politics.

Now Keith Olbermann has extended the intent of the slam by using phrases like "we've searched the Interweb" to both refer implicitly to "the Internets" (again, a sarcastic reference to George Bush) and also to have its demeaning and insulting value increased even further, as well as adding a bit more comedy into the usage by virtue of its obvious inappropriateness.

As far as what Nancy said (and I can't now remember exactly the situation in which it came up), I believe she was either demonstrating her own illiterateness about computers by using this now very contemporary extra-meaning-laden phrase, or she was implying computer-illiterateness to whoever she used the phrase with. I honestly can't remember which.

But whichever it was, when I heard it verbalized I immediately thought of Keith's usage... which has become code for a slam on George Bush. I therefore assumed the "Weeds" writers had thus snuck one of these in.

Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but that's how I interpreted things.

^^^ LOL ... you mean like, "I invented the internet?"

:D That's why I was afraid to bring it up :D Let's get back to Nancy and the look on her face when she was exiting the limo.

+1

The best episode of the season....so far.
Seconded, and for me, maybe the best episode since Season 1 ended. I've always had a thing for Mary Louise (who seems to never age and is an underrated actress), but the scripts have run the gamut from incredible to 'WTF were they thinking?'. The first season had the benefit of being a shiny and new breakthrough working for it, but this season seems to have the potential of being the best one to date.

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DSperber, I interpreted Nancy's use of the word "interweb" in the same manner as you, actually made me LOL.

did anybody else notice the goof involving nancy's butt?

not to keep bringing up her butt but she was slapped on her left cheek but later, when she looked at it, it was her right cheek that was all red.

i was pretty sure at first but i just confirmed it with PVR.

by the way, this episode was much better with the frame pausing feature of the PVR, if you know what i mean. :D

Looking in a mirror perhaps? All I remember is she kinda liked it. LOL

Looking in a mirror perhaps? All I remember is she kinda liked it. LOL

Just checked, she was looking in the mirror at her left cheek.

aye carumba, the friggin mirror.whoops. :o

nothing to see here, move along. :D

Huh.. mirror = right side looks like is the left side perhaps???

(she has a nice buttox btw)

All of the posts for last week's Weeds episode have been lost, of course, so I'll kick off the discussion of this week's show. As usual, I loved it. There is no taboo that the writers aren't willing to satirize and they do it very well. When Nancy and her new boyfriend, the Mexican drug lord, were talking on the phone about how she tasted, I howled. I also thought the Celia's further descent into drug addiction and the way Nancy dealt with her sons' current problems was entertaining. Way back in my subconscious, though, it was all a little horrifying.

I love the way the show avoids sentimentality. The drug lord boyfriend's revolving light on the front porch at first looked like nothing more than the beginning of a romantic interlude with Nancy but then the mood was broken when the camera panned out to reveal two gigantic Mexican bodyguards outside keeping a lookout. It's hard to forget how dangerous Nancy's trade is.

I chuckled a bit through the show but it was close to pushing limits with the pictures.

what a great show!! I wonder how many people actually watch the show high? I think the druglords right hand man is secretly in love with him, that's why he keeps on hating.

I think the druglords right hand man is secretly in love with him, that's why he keeps on hating.
You could be right, although I suspect that the right hand man's disapproval of Nancy is not sexual but is based more on disappointment with his loss of influence with the boss. Indeed, the boss's infatuation with Nancy has seemed to make him reckless, which has to scare the right hand man to death.

Another excellent episode. It's nice to see Weeds continue to deliver the goods. Celia(?) in the last 2 episodes has made me laugh out loud. Doug's comments to the old lady in the bar were hysterical. :)

larry

Another excellent episode. It's nice to see Weeds continue to deliver the goods. Celia(?) in the last 2 episodes has made me laugh out loud. Doug's comments to the old lady in the bar were hysterical. :)

larry

Celia was brilliant this week!

I love this show's ability to catch me off guard. The comic timing in the scene where 'El Andy' preaches peace only to see the bad guy take a bottle to the head--'sorry he doesn't speak english'
:p :D

Just great!

You could be right, although I suspect that the right hand man's disapproval of Nancy is not sexual but is based more on disappointment with his loss of influence with the boss. Indeed, the boss's infatuation with Nancy has seemed to make him reckless, which has to scare the right hand man to death.
That was my take as well.

When Andy and Doug were in the Mexican bar at the end and they were panning across the portraits of great Mexican leaders and they get to one of "El Andy" with his flap-back hat holding his flatbread (sorry, can't remember the name of that stuff), my wife and I fell off the couch we were laughing so hard. That scene was just priceless, and a reminder of why this show remains so wickedly funny. :D

When Andy and Doug were in the Mexican bar at the end and they were panning across the portraits of great Mexican leaders and they get to one of "El Andy" with his flap-back hat holding his flatbread (sorry, can't remember the name of that stuff), my wife and I fell off the couch we were laughing so hard. That scene was just priceless, and a reminder of why this show remains so wickedly funny. :D
"El Andy" - You're right, that was classic!!

"El Andy" - You're right, that was classic!!

They looked like the black velvet portraits of Elvis & Jesus you see being sold on the side of the road - that was probably part of the gag. :D

They looked like the black velvet portraits of Elvis & Jesus you see being sold on the side of the road - that was probably part of the gag. :DYou probably have one (http://www.thevelvetstore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ve033&Category_Code=11) on your wall Arch, :p don't lie. :D

This is the best season so far. This last episode was perfect comedy.

You probably have one (http://www.thevelvetstore.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=ve033&Category_Code=11) on your wall Arch, :p don't lie. :D


Got my last one at a Southerbys auction - an original "Dogs Playing Poker". Out bid 6 PETA People for it; sweet! Gonna' hang it up over my trusty 8-track player. :p

Got my last one at a Southerbys auction - an original "Dogs Playing Poker". Out bid 6 PETA People for it; sweet! Gonna' hang it up over my trusty 8-track player. :p
Wouldn't it look even better hung above your lava lamp? :)

Wouldn't it look even better hung above your lava lamp? :)

Don't laugh. When I first put together my HT, I used a couple of those on either side of the room for bias lighting. Different colors, too. It was kind of cool in a retro way. :D

I just watched the last episode on DVR. Funniest scene was when Andy was shaving and trying to figure out what the sound was in the other room. :D

Best line of this weeks episode comes from Doug discussing his girl/Mermex troubles,

"It was easy to get laid in the 70's, I had a Camaro."

Hilarious episode! Loved Doug's walk on the beach with his lady ("Little ****!") and Celia's continuing rehab.
I also like how this season seems to be taking the characters to their natural (realistic) places in their world: Nancy is seeing how what she does isn't just for laughs and a few bucks, Doug is really just a jackass child (but funny!), Celia is starting to regain some of her humanity (if she ever had any is debatable), and Guermo (sorry, can't spell that at the moment) is not nearly as likable as he seemed.
Celia has become my favorite character. Her gift for physical comedy and 180 degree personality changes is truly star caliber.

Celia has become my favorite character. Her gift for physical comedy and 180 degree personality changes is truly star caliber.
I think that Celia is tremendously entertaining, too. I have always admired Elizabeth Perkins’ talent and her performances as Celia have given her a great opportunity to strut her stuff, especially lately.

Doug: ...she needs some cockamole on her face-a-dilla.

I was cracking up on that one! (OK, so it doesn't take much for me...)

Doug: ...she needs some cockamole on her face-a-dilla.

I was cracking up on that one! (OK, so it doesn't take much for me...)
I laughed out loud at that one, too. To get the most out of this show you have to have a very high tolerance for outrageousness. :)

What episode is that quote from? I thought this week was old episodes leading up to the season finale.

According to epguides (http://epguides.com/weeds/) there are 2 episodes left. Next new episode is on September 8 with the season finale on September 15.

Good. Then I didn't miss anything from this season yet.

immods.com has an avatar of 'El Andy' -- that was a lol moment for sure..

Uh oh. Looks like, after that power sander facial treatment session Monday, that the final episode will be lights out for Nancy and family. -- John

I know this is supposed to be a "dark comedy", but I don't find much humor in torture scenes like that.....

Yea, this series really has a turn to a darker place! Not just silly pot jokes and innuendos. Still a great show!

Damn! What did she do.
Surely, no popular cast members get killed off.

Wow! Very dark episode of 'Weeds'. Guess they're setting things up for a typically huge cliffhanger ending next week. Can't wait to see how Nancy gets out of this one.

Teetering between a comedy and a crime drama is a tough line to balance.

When it drifts towards the violent edge, Weeds usually loses its footing. It is best when they stick with interesting character developments and the sharp multi level humor—slicing harmlessly through—as opposed to an angle grinder bloodying up the joint.

Watching this episode reminded me of De Palma’s Scarface. This was a dark movie with only a few frames of humor. Could you imagine what Scarface would be like if there were a Chris Rock type character added to the ensemble? It would be just as clumsy.

That said the show still entertains. :cool:

Drugs ... Just remember, it's all fun and games until somebody gets their face ground off ... then capped.

I liked this week's episode. I thought the violence worked far better than it did when the writers tried it in earlier seasons. Weeds is a VERY smart show, sexy, funny, and recently, scary as hell.

Tonight is the season finale.

Due to Hurricane Ike, my power is currently down.
My DVR will not automatically record tonight. Not cool!

Will have to wait for a re-broadcast, days later.

Was not expecting that at all! What a great finale, IMO.

+1

I didn't see that coming either, though it sets up a lot of possibilities.

I can't read today's postings. Just here to say hi. :p

Yeah, I was expecting something like season 2 finale. Mexican stand off and everybody dies :P

... but this was totally unexpected!

OB: and yeah Doug was great!

Didn't see that ending coming (which is good). The implications of where "Weeds" will be going during it's remaining two seasons though aren't as fascinating or fun to think though. The show might be heading down that narrow creative corner that some other shows have written themselves into. :(

The implications of where "Weeds" will be going during it's remaining two seasons though aren't as fascinating or fun to think though. The show might be heading down that narrow creative corner that some other shows have written themselves into. :(I have to disagree. This was the best season and it concluded with the deepest and richest well of material than any other season. The writers set up a veritable smorgasbord of story lines for next year. :cool:

I also think this was the best season, although I do miss the pot dealing mama.

Anyone want to bet that sonogram photo was of either Shane or Silas? I doubt she's pregnant but brought that along for insurance, just in case things went south--which they did once the photo of her and the cop came out. They made an overt effort to show the picture of his three daughters in last week's episode and they also showed that again in the 'previously on Weeds' clips at the beginning of the finale. She (correctly) figured he would be happy to have a son, which is why she said what she said.

^^^ They also showed Silas in bed with his MILF girlfriend, so you're right about the picture not being Nancy's being a possibility although I can't think of a scene in a previous episode in which they set-up any of the characters getting a medical check-up. It's at least a potential out if the writers don't want to go the 'Nancy is pregnant' route. In hindsight the reveal at the end makes the whole episode interesting to watch again. It explains why Nancy seems so shellshocked when she walks into the house (sitting in the floor of the stairs) and she sleepwalks/pours her soul to Andy in the bathroom and that gift basket telephone operator on the drive to Mexico. I thought she was shaken by the interrogation with the DEA agent turning ugly (which might still be the case).

Celia as a prisoner for ransom by her own daughter in a foreign country should be a fun start next season. And what can I say about Doug? Kevin Nealon's the man! :D The highlight of the season for me was seeing Lee Majors alive and well protecting our borders from illegal immigrants while fantasizing about being lifted whole by his "girlfriend" after sex. Good God, I haven't laughed so hard this year like I did during Lee's couple of episodes on "Weeds" this season. I was literally in tears on the floor with my sides aching from laughing so hard. :p Can't wait for next season!

The show might be heading down that narrow creative corner that some other shows have written themselves into. :(In hindsight the reveal at the end makes the whole episode interesting to watch again.
:p Can't wait for next season!
:eek::confused::D That's a 180.. I guess you watched it again this afternoon.:D

I'm on vacation at home (no money to go anywhere) so yes, I watched it live last night and again today on the HD DVR. Not much of a repeat viewer of "Weeds" but that finale sure works better when watched again with the hindsight of what's coming. Which, as someone else said, may or may not be what it's intended to convey. It just might be that Nancy was smart enough to have an Ace in her sleeve for something like this. Makes you wonder if she already knew she was pregnant (again, assuming here) when she gave the tunnel's location to the Feds after she saw human trafficking (which would have been high on her mind) and was talking with Andy on the beach about being unable to justify her criminal behavior.

In hindsight the reveal at the end makes the whole episode interesting to watch again. It explains why Nancy seems so shellshocked when she walks into the house (sitting in the floor of the stairs) and she sleepwalks/pours her soul to Andy in the bathroom and that gift basket telephone operator on the drive to Mexico. I thought she was shaken by the interrogation with the DEA agent turning ugly (which might still be the case).

Andy: "Very Nice! Bigger than I thought"

Anyone want to bet that sonogram photo was of either Shane or Silas? I doubt she's pregnant but brought that along for insurance, just in case things went south--which they did once the photo of her and the cop came out. They made an overt effort to show the picture of his three daughters in last week's episode and they also showed that again in the 'previously on Weeds' clips at the beginning of the finale. She (correctly) figured he would be happy to have a son, which is why she said what she said.

Yeah, that's a very good possibility. Nancy's smart enough to have a back-up plan. She had to know things were going to go haywire when she ratted out Gomez and the tunnel.

But help me out here; I must have missed some exposition about Celia having another daughter. Where'd that come from??

And Andy being secretly in love with Nancy? I know they're not blood related, but after all they've been through, I still feel kinda'....ick. I don't like that as a plot development. But Andy always needs to have a cause or something; the coyote bit was gold. And looks like Shane is entering the family business. Maybe they can bring Mary Kate back next year - they said before the season that they were "looking at the possibility" if they could find a reason to include her. Guess they didn't find one - blowback from Heath Ledger maybe? And finally, nice to know Doug is still 100% Doug. :p

The older daughter was in the first few episodes, she was actually Silas' girlfriend. They shipped her away really early on though.

The older daughter was in the first few episodes, she was actually Silas' girlfriend. They shipped her away really early on though.Yeah, that was back in the very first episodes when they were still developing the characters. When Nancy and Celia’s mothering skills were established as being questionable. :D

Thanks for the heads up about Celia's older daughter, I had forgotten about her. I agree with what seems to be the consensus, this was a great finale to an outstanding season. Although a lot of it was very dark, its funny moments were funny indeed. For example, when Doug put the noose around his neck, I had a pretty good idea about what was coming because I have come to know Doug. :)

The scene between Nancy and Andy in Nancy's bathroom, and Nancy's telephone call to the gift basket place from her car while she was driving to her fateful meeting with Esteban, were both funny and moving. I howled when Celia’s daughter told her Mexican lover that she was dumping him. Do you want to talk about a chip off the old block? Great television!

I went back and replayed the episode as well as the teaser for next year. I have to conclude that Nancy is pregnant.

I went back and replayed the episode as well as the teaser for next year. I have to conclude that Nancy is pregnant.

Would also explain the "bigger than I thought" line.

I don't think anyone would pay for Celia's ransom... specially not her family, poor lady.. LOL

Yes, Nancy maybe pregnant and would be the next season plotline

Personally, I couldn't take a whole season of her preg., I hope we fast forward to the 9th month, or just after the baby is born.

I don't think anyone would pay for Celia's ransom... specially not her family, poor lady.. LOL

Yes, Nancy maybe pregnant and would be the next season plotline

I think, with Celia held for ransom, we'll see Andy's next "mission". I can see him and Doug trying to mount some hugely complicated rescue that just goes screamingly, hilariously wrong. And Celia being held, I can see something similar to - what was that movie where the bumbling kidnappers had their hands full with a narcissistic, rude victim (maybe played by Bette Midler)...? It could be comedy gold. :D

- what was that movie where the bumbling kidnappers had their hands full with a narcissistic, rude victim (maybe played by Bette Midler)...? It could be comedy gold. :D"Ruthless People"


Sounds funny but I can’t see those two motivated enough to take on such a mission. They would probably go down there with Sawzalls- and help. :D

Or they abduct "The Andy", you know when they adbuct someone they send some finger or toe to force the issue, they will go and try to cut one of Andy's toes with a big surprise that he's missing some.. LOL

Finally got to watch it.
Good stuff.

New York Times 9/17/09 profile/interview of Hunter Parrish (Silas): http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/17/theater/17parr.html?_r=1&ref=television.

Anybody got the date of the season opener? My friend wants to know, I can't find it on imdb or sho.com.

Anybody got the date of the season opener? My friend wants to know, I can't find it on imdb or sho.com.

The only thing we know right now is 2009. Most likely during the summer again.

Just giving this thread a friendly bump to ask a question: Is this a good show? I don't have Showtime, so I was never able to watch it on TV. Some of my co-workers say that this is an awesome show and that I should watch them. I see the DVDs on sale for $20 (sometimes less) in stores and I was thinking of buying this and giving this show a shot. So, do you people recommend that I buy the DVDs and give this show a try?

Based on my personal experience with friends and relatives you should either rent Season 1 or just buy the first season (cheap of course) and see if you like it. Some of my relatives/friends became diehard fans after seeing S1, others looked at me as if I was giving poison to their pets! I liked it right away (Kevin Nealon's character alone is worth watching the series for) but I'm the weirdest dude I know! :p It's very funny in a dark, cynical and often life-is-cruel-so-you-either-roll-with-it-or-cry way that is entirely viewer-dependent. So I suggest a Netflix tryout or a bargain-priced look at S1. If you like S1 then the second season is incredible, the third meanders a little but rights itself up toward the end and the fourth season (the most recent) is a return to form.

The Blu Rays of S1 and S2 are 12.99 per season if you are looking for pretty cheap. Gotta agree with Dad, it's a love it or hate it show. It was rather interesting watching how the show changed from S1 to S3 and then almost resets itself in S4 with a significantly different tone/character than where the show started.

I actually like Andy better than Nealon's character and some of the conversations between with Andy and the youngest son are just tear inducing hysterical -- who can forget the warm banana craze.

The Blu Rays of S1 and S2 are 12.99 per season if you are looking for pretty cheap.
I saw that, but unfortunately, I don't have a Blu-ray player and probably won't get one. I find it so strange. This is the only Blu-ray title I've seen that's cheaper than its DVD counterpart. *scratches head*

Aside from the upgrade in picture quality, the one big advantage of getting the Blu-ray though is that Season 1 is widescreen. I can't believe the Season 1 DVD is full screen. Yuck!!

I saw that, but unfortunately, I don't have a Blu-ray player and probably won't get one. I find it so strange. This is the only Blu-ray title I've seen that's cheaper than its DVD counterpart. *scratches head*

Aside from the upgrade in picture quality, the one big advantage of getting the Blu-ray though is that Season 1 is widescreen. I can't believe the Season 1 DVD is full screen. Yuck!!

I am another fan of the show and reccomend getting in from the beginning so that you know the back story. There was a lot of complaining last season (about how the show was done), but IMO it wasnt bad at all and I enjoyed almost every episode. ITs on my recommended list to others :).

Very smart, very subversive, very funny. Maybe the best comedy of the last decade; it would certainly have to be in the running. Not for the ideologically calcified, however (but those people don't usually have much of a sense of humor anyways).