Not for the ideologically calcified, however (but those people don't usually have much of a sense of humor anyways).:eek: Well--(in my best Jack Benny voice), if you have to cast these stereotypes, I guess you’re on a collision course for osteoporosis, :p :D to use your analogy. ;)

xraffle, Netflix or buy it. This is a very funny show. Not the best in years but worth watching. In my opinion, the comedy crown belongs to Larry David for Curb Your Enthusiasm.

:eek: Well--(in my best Jack Benny voice), if you have to cast these stereotypes, I guess you’re on a collision course for osteoporosis, :p :D to use your analogy. ;)


See there? That's why you don't fall into that category, my flexible friend. :D

Some of my relatives/friends became diehard fans after seeing S1, others looked at me as if I was giving poison to their pets! I liked it right away (Kevin Nealon's character alone is worth watching the series for) but I'm the weirdest dude I know! :p It's very funny in a dark, cynical and often life-is-cruel-so-you-either-roll-with-it-or-cry way that is entirely viewer-dependent.
This is so close to what I was going to post in response to the question whether Weeds is a good series, I thought I would use it as a starting point. As dad points, out the show, while very funny, is very dark and, sometimes, meanspirited, so viewers tend to either love it or hate it. I guess I am a weird, too, because I love it. It has a great cast, wonderful writers, and it is brave -- boy, is it EVER brave!

'Weeds' Season 4 is shooting on Sony F23 (HD videocameras).
1080p 23.98fps, 4:2:2 color sampled

HDVideoPro magazine, April 2009 issue, page 63.



Sony F-23 is also used on "Gossip Girl", ABC's "The Unusuals", "Dexter" season 3 on Showtime

Might have already been said.

http://www.tv.com/weeds/show/28829/summary.html
NEXT EPISODE
5.1
Air date: Monday June 8, 2009

The Blu Rays of S1 and S2 are 12.99 per season if you are looking for pretty cheap. Gotta agree with Dad, it's a love it or hate it show. It was rather interesting watching how the show changed from S1 to S3 and then almost resets itself in S4 with a significantly different tone/character than where the show started.

I actually like Andy better than Nealon's character and some of the conversations between with Andy and the youngest son are just tear inducing hysterical -- who can forget the warm banana craze.
Ok, I found Seasons 1 and 2 DVDs of Weeds on sale for $15.99 each. I bought them both as I've always seen them for $20 in the stores. So, that price is a steal, so I decided to buy it and give the show a try. I'm halfway done watching them and I have to say, it's a pretty good show. Though, the show seems to be more of a drama than a comedy, IMO. Overall, it's a great show and it's very addictive. In fact, I like it much better than the overrated HBO series "The Sopranos."

Ok, I found Seasons 1 and 2 DVDs of Weeds on sale for $15.99 each. I bought them both as I've always seen them for $20 in the stores. So, that price is a steal, so I decided to buy it and give the show a try. I'm halfway done watching them and I have to say, it's a pretty good show. Though, the show seems to be more of a drama than a comedy, IMO. Overall, it's a great show and it's very addictive. In fact, I like it much better than the overrated HBO series "The Sopranos."
The show does have a lot of dramatic elements. When it really got funny for me was when I learned to relax and stop worrying about the incredibly flexible moral standards of Nancy and the gang. Since then, I have loved the show. I find almost everything that Celia or Doug get themselves into to be very funny indeed.

Just a reminder... series return is Monday June 8, 10PM eastern.

According to news reports (http://www.nypost.com/seven/05162009/tv/marys_naked_rage_169477.htm), M-LP is now regretting doing the bathtub nude scene in last season's finale.

Who cares?

Let's just get the stories back on TV again. I enjoyed the Mexican connection story line.

This should hold me over till sometime in the Fall when "Curb Your Enthusiasm" returns to HBO (rumored 10+ episodes (http://www.buddytv.com/articles/curb-your-enthusiasm/curb-your-enthusiasm-returning-21179.aspx) with both Cheryl Hines and Vivica A. Fox returning, including Jerry Seinfeld, Julia Louis-Dreyfus, Jason Alexander, and Michael Richards set to appear in a multi-episode arc).

Just a reminder... series return is Monday June 8, 10PM eastern.Also, followed by Edie Falco in new series "Nurse Jackie", which looks like it has a short 6-episode first season. Mixed reviews.

Hey, I gave "United States of Tara" two episodes before bailing. Least I can do is give Carmela a chance.

Also, followed by Edie Falco in new series "Nurse Jackie", which looks like it has a short 6-episode first season. Mixed reviews.

Hey, I gave "United States of Tara" two episodes before bailing. Least I can do is give Carmela a chance.

I'm pretty sure it's 12 episodes.

Just a reminder... series return is Monday June 8, 10PM eastern.

According to news reports (http://www.nypost.com/seven/05162009/tv/marys_naked_rage_169477.htm), M-LP is now regretting doing the bathtub nude scene in last season's finale.

Who cares?


Not MLP, I'll bet. That sounded like a publicity stunt to me when I first heard about it. If she had any aversion to "getting her kit off", as our friends across the pond refer to it, she wouldn't have done it in the first place (twice now), since neither was especially integral to the plotline.

Besides, any reaction to those scenes has been overwhelmingly positive because, hey let's face it, she looks incredible for her age. That's not a sexist comment either as not many men look as, ahem, impressive in their 40's as their 20's either, am I right my fellow individuals [mostly - this is AVS after all] of the dude persuasion?

Anyway, there doesn't seem to be a downside for someone who looks like her doing scenes like that other than perhaps the knowledge that there is an extremely small subset of her fanbase that will using screenshots of said kit-off scenes as their computer desktop background.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to go hang some wallpaper. ;)

Also, followed by Edie Falco in new series "Nurse Jackie", which looks like it has a short 6-episode first season. Mixed reviews.
Thanks for the heads up about the "mixed reviews." A Google search revealed that Falco's Nurse Jackie is supposed to be a druggie who does other strange stuff, too. That reminds me far too much of Holly Hunter's Saving Grace, in which she is a chain smoking alcoholic emotional basket case who sees ghosts, or angels, or something. I wandered away from that one after a few episodes and cursed myself for having stuck around as long as I did. I thought the show's setting in OKC might appeal to me but it didn't help. Nevertheless, Saving Grace's third season starts soon, so what do I know.:)

I'm pretty sure it's 12 episodes.You could be right. I was looking at the IMDB details, and each cast member was shown as "6 episodes, 2009". I didn't find the exact episode count on the SHO site but maybe I just didn't know what to look for.

Anyway, I'll watch at least the first two and then make a decision.

You could be right. I was looking at the IMDB details, and each cast member was shown as "6 episodes, 2009". I didn't find the exact episode count on the SHO site but maybe I just didn't know what to look for.

Anyway, I'll watch at least the first two and then make a decision.

I usually go to thefutoncritic when I'm trying to find out info like that:

http://thefutoncritic.com/showatch.aspx?id=nurse_jackie

I usually go to thefutoncritic when I'm trying to find out info like that:

http://thefutoncritic.com/showatch.aspx?id=nurse_jackieHard to believe I was unaware of that site. Now bookmarked.

Many thanks. Don't know what IMDB was thinking about when they showed "6 episodes, 2009".

Re: IMDB... I am quite irritated by their site changes, skimping down on the information presented and offering "IMDB Pro" (for money) as the only way to get decent complete information on movies which used to be available for free, throwing popup windows for ads (even with popup suppression active), etc. Hey, I understand they're not in business to lose money, but what they've done I find very off-putting. They were previously THE premiere movie/TV information site I went to first for the kind of details they provided, but I've taken to looking elsewhere in response to what they've done.

Not MLP, I'll bet. That sounded like a publicity stunt to me when I first heard about it. If she had any aversion to "getting her kit off", as our friends across the pond refer to it, she wouldn't have done it in the first place (twice now), since neither was especially integral to the plotline.

Besides, any reaction to those scenes has been overwhelmingly positive because, hey let's face it, she looks incredible for her age. That's not a sexist comment either as not many men look as, ahem, impressive in their 40's as their 20's either, am I right my fellow individuals [mostly - this is AVS after all] of the dude persuasion?

Anyway, there doesn't seem to be a downside for someone who looks like her doing scenes like that other than perhaps the knowledge that there is an extremely small subset of her fanbase that will using screenshots of said kit-off scenes as their computer desktop background.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got to go hang some wallpaper. ;)


I couldn't have said it any better, Skipdrive. :)

Hopefully the full cast will be in this season. Can't wait.

Nobody watched? :)

Great comeback! I really missed this show. I canceled Showtime when the season ended for Dexter last year, so last morning I called Comcast again to get Showtime. $7/month for 6 months. That should last me until Dexter right?
Anyway, the wife and me watched last year season finale first. You should see the smile in my face watching the show. That season finale was great. Doug "killing" himself was great, but of course it reminded me of David Carradine. Doug and Andy conversation was an instant classic, never before so many **** yous in a row have been so funny...
The season premiere wasn't as good, of course, but it was great. Interesting to see how grown up Shane is now. Very funny that they keep the joke with Doug. I laughed when they killed the two mexican mafia guys because they were "dos viejas chismosas" (two gossip old ladies). That's the kind of black humor that I love about the show. The Celia bit was a little overdone but I still laughed every time.

I really don't know what they are going to do this season, but I'm expecting more surprises.

Great comeback!

I laughed when they killed the two mexican mafia guys because they were "dos viejas chismosas" (two gossip old ladies). That's the kind of black humor that I love about the show. The Celia bit was a little overdone but I still laughed every time.

I really don't know what they are going to do this season, but I'm expecting more surprises.
I think the show is brilliant. They continue to provide a unique story line that stays fresh, funny and filled with surprises. I thought the Celia bit was a great running gag, with all of the turndowns. "I'm at Z on your Cell phone!!":D

Lots of good stuff in last night's season premiere. My favorite bit was when somebody asked Doug about the red marks on his neck, and he didn't even hesitate to tell how he got them as though that activity is normal. BTW, that is a weird coincidence with the David Carradine situation.

Nice episode, glad Weeds is back.
The whole David Carradine "Spoof" was weird, what timing. The show has its dark side at some points, not that there's anything wrong with that.

Considering the episode with that activity originally ran on Showtime September 15 2008. No way they could of known about Carradine.

For Doug I would say that totally fits with his character though.

For those of you who speak Spanish, what was being said in the doctor's office? I could only understand bits and pieces.

^ 2nd.

Like others said, it looks like Weeds is off to a good stuff. I really enjoyed the episode and the previews look great.

larry

For those of you who speak Spanish, what was being said in the doctor's office? I could only understand bits and pieces.


basically they are testing her pregnancy for DNA, gender, and all kinds of genetic diseases the fetus may have, they were commenting about the risks of the procedure being performed and there was a low risk of her losing the baby with all the poking around. Pretty much it...

my wife is a genetic counselor and from what she told me, since Nancy is at an advanced age (over 40), they were talking about doing a Chorionic Villus Sampling (CVS) (http://www.babycenter.com/0_chorionic-villus-sampling-cvs_328.bc) to test for anything abnormal. women under 40 typically don't require this procedure...which involves sticking a needle into the abdomen drawing a sample. of course, that's all from memory from when she told me the other night...i'm sure there's more to it than that.

I thought the Celia bit was a great running gag, with all of the turndowns. "I'm at Z on your Cell phone!!":D

My mother watched the premier last night. She loved that line.

basically they are testing her pregnancy for DNA, gender, and all kinds of genetic diseases the fetus may have, they were commenting about the risks of the procedure being performed and there was a low risk of her losing the baby with all the poking around. Pretty much it...

Yeah. I think they mentioned Down syndrome too. So basically he wants to know if the baby is "normal", if he has any disease or syndrome she will have to take a drive with Cesar. ;)

Maybe it's just me but, I really don't wanna see Nancy pregnant. I wanna see her, lot's of her, but not pregnant. :p

I finally got around to watching this season's opening episode and loved it. It was aptly named, Wonderful, Wonderful. Weeds' goodnatured immorality is a lot of fun. I was rolling on the floor when the Mexican drug lord's murderous henchman casually shot and killed their two bodyguards after Nancy revealed that she was pregnant. I also loved the scenes with Celia's insanely meanspirited daughter and her hapless boyfriend. This show is endlessly inspired, great performances and even better writing.

After seeing the first 2 episodes this year it seems like it could be another dark season. While the Celia and Andy scenes have been entertaining, the Nancy scenes have been pretty disturbing. A piece of meat at Fuddruckers is treated better than her, so far.

Ha. It's a little dark, not that there's anything wrong with that.
So, Nancy was raped at the end? In the beginning, there was a rape advisory.
The people staying with Nancy was her sister and the sister's husband and kids?
Andy was doing so good at resisting! She was pretty, I would have caved in soon :p
Edit: I need a drunk middle aged women myself ha

Yeah, it will be dark. I wonder how they will develop the story. I mean Nancy needs to survive, the Mexican drug lord needs to die or something like that. Are they going to be moved to the East Coast? Canada? or some other place? Or just to Northern California? :D

And yeah, Jennifer Jason Leigh looked so yummy. I can't believe she's 47!

And yeah, Jennifer Jason Leigh looked so yummy.Yeah, she’s great. It seems like she alway plays the promiscuous girl.:cool:

Yeah, it will be dark. I wonder how they will develop the story. I mean Nancy needs to survive, the Mexican drug lord needs to die or something like that. Are they going to be moved to the East Coast? Canada? or some other place? Or just to Northern California? :D

And yeah, Jennifer Jason Leigh looked so yummy. I can't believe she's 47!

She does look good, she's only 2 yrs older than MLP.

The show continues to move along quite nicely. Still lovin' it. I like the new show intro, even though I sort of miss the little song in the beginning.

larry

Finally watched the first two episodes. Not as many fall-down-laughing moments as we're used to, but they're setting the table for the banquet to come. Weird about Doug's little auto-erotic escapade after the David Carradine news, huh? MLP's expression when Andy whispered it into her ear was priceless. :p

I guess it doesn't pay to be a drug lord's henchman, huh? Talk about a shocking moment. Who'd want that job? And I too miss the intro and the "Little Houses" ditty, but they've moved far beyond the original premise now, so I can see why they did it.

And yeah, Jennifer Jason Leigh looked so yummy. I can't believe she's 47!

Really? I saw her on the couch and thought, "Wow, she's gained weight." To me, she looks like one of my neighbors with kids.

OK, so why did Nancy go visit Guillermo in prison? That was lost on the wife and I because it just turned into a pissing contest.

OK, so why did Nancy go visit Guillermo in prison? That was lost on the wife and I because it just turned into a pissing contest.

It was the note on the bobblehead, other than that I'm not sure, but the bobblehead had a message of some kind. that was the same bobblehead they put in her car when they sent her over the border for his inhalers.

OK, so why did Nancy go visit Guillermo in prison? That was lost on the wife and I because it just turned into a pissing contest.When Cesar (Esteban's right-hand man) visited Mary, she went outside and saw the Virgin Mary statuette and underneath it written a note: "I need to see you" or something to that effect. The statuette had previously been used to spy on Mary in the drug smuggling car by Guillermo.

Good episode. Did Guillermo/his crew really kill the new body guard?
I had a 102.6 fever while watching this episode. :(

Good episode. Did Guillermo/his crew really kill the new body guard?
I had a 102.6 fever while watching this episode. :(What was the detective doing outside her house?

That's right, I forgot.

I think I'm done with this show. I don't mind dark (I love Deadwood, Breaking Bad, Dexter, ...) but this jokey nihilism with fewer and fewer funny moments just wears me down. I think the show's balance is way off and now it's just depressing.

I think I'm done with this show. I don't mind dark (I love Deadwood, Breaking Bad, Dexter, ...) but this jokey nihilism with fewer and fewer funny moments just wears me down. I think the show's balance is way off and now it's just depressing.

The same thing has been running through my mind as well, it just doesn't seem as funny anymore, as light as it was in Season 1. It certainly has it's funny moments, but to me it's a very different show from the early days. Seeing Nancy bent over and raped by the Mayor just seems a long ways from Agrestic...

I still find Weeds extremely entertaining. I don't mind the grittier stuff thrown in and there's still plenty of funny stuff. I'm not going anywhere.

larry

I don't mind it.
My mother is 62 years old and she laughs out loud and enjoys the show.
All my friends love the show, and they're in their 20s.

I do understand it's totally different from season one, though.

Off topic edit: No fever this morning! yay haha

Off topic edit: No fever this morning! yay haha

As Showtime's most loyal viewer, I'm sure their executives are cheered by the news of your timely recovery. ;)

'Weeds' is still some funny, funny stuff. Agree that it's a far different show from it's earlier seasons, but you can't accuse the writers and producers of not taking chances. And Justin Kirk as Andy is still pure gold whenever he's on screen; give him a juicy monologue every week and all will be forgiven. :D

Sad to see Celia leave the ranks of the revolutionaries (reverse kidnapping! :p). They could have mined a lot more laughs out of that one, seems to me. Surprised to see there wasn't one more caustic encounter with her eldist daughter before her departure.

I think I'm done with this show. I don't mind dark (I love Deadwood, Breaking Bad, Dexter, ...) but this jokey nihilism with fewer and fewer funny moments just wears me down. I think the show's balance is way off and now it's just depressing.

This is not the first time the show has teetered along that dark path. It has always dealt in nihilistic tendencies. It’s just a matter of time before it pushes the viewers individual tolerance level. For me it was the season when they killed the DEA boyfriend. I was ready to bail at that point. However, the show usually rescues that viewer from jumping off the cliff by dangling a brand new story line, not to mention great humor.

'Weeds' is still some funny, funny stuff.

... And Justin Kirk as Andy is still pure gold whenever he's on screen; give him a juicy monologue every week and all will be forgiven. :D

...Sad to see Celia leave the ranks of the revolutionaries (reverse kidnapping! :p). They could have mined a lot more laughs out of that one, seems to me. .

Agree, more gold to mine…

Best line was when the sister, Jennifer Jason Leigh, said, while referring to the filthy bodyguard-- “Where’d you get him, Home Depot?” :D

I think I'm done with this show...

better hurry...I'm A Celebrity Get Me Outta Here! only has a few more days left! but then again, NYC Prep School just started, so you have that to fall back on.

seriously, even though it's going in a different direction than the first couple seasons, Weeds is still better than 98% of the garbage on TV...if you were a fan for ~4 seasons, why would you bail now?

Before I continue, in the interests of full disclosure, I must confess that I have always loved really black comedy. That said, it will come as no surprise that I am enjoying Weeds more than ever. The recurring characters are uniformly charismatic, with deficient psyches ranging from neurotic addicts to sociopathic killers, with Nancy trapped among them. Nancy, while not exactly nuts, is nevertheless an adrenaline junky, which often makes her her own worst enemy. I love every minute of it!:)

Agree, more gold to mine…

Best line was when the sister, Jennifer Jason Leigh, said, while referring to the filthy bodyguard-- “Where’d you get him, Home Depot?” :D
My line of the episode was Andy's remark to Nancy when she went to the gynecologist. While Nancy was on the exam table with her feet in the stirrups, Andy said something like, "A Mexican gyno? Mexican is all right for a Mariachi band but for down there you need a Jew.":)

I think I'm done with this show. I don't mind dark (I love Deadwood, Breaking Bad, Dexter, ...) but this jokey nihilism with fewer and fewer funny moments just wears me down. I think the show's balance is way off and now it's just depressing.

I'm kinda feeling the same way, although I'm still watching it.
And MLP doesn't even seem to look as hot as she used to.
It's a trip to see her on old "West Wing" reruns later the
same night, where I first fell in love with her.

At this point it would be hard to return to the lighter stuff, but that's what the show really needs. The Mexican drug lord was an interesting twist, but got too dark too fast.

I think she needs to score, and score big, and end the show this season.

The Mexican drug lord story line sort of feels like U-Turn. I was happy when he was killed.

Seemed a little less dark tonight, but still some very heavy undertones.

The new Mexican body guard is a hoot. We are supposed to assume the off duty DEA guy is now dead?

The new Mexican body guard is a hoot. We are supposed to assume the off duty DEA guy is now dead?

Ignacio is not new. He was in several episodes last season. He was introduced as a guard with a gun at the entrance to the tunnel in the back of the maternity shop. He is a funny character. His banter last night pleading with Nancy to kill Roy Till because Till's a killer and Ignacio is not was hilarious. He finished by telling Nancy that if she saved Ignacio, he would kill Roy Till for her. That was very funny dialog.

Your observation that we didn't actually see DEA Captain Roy Till get killed last night is keen. I'm skeptical that he's dead. He could return and kill Esteban yet for all we know.

My line of the episode was Andy's remark to Nancy when she went to the gynecologist. While Nancy was on the exam table with her feet in the stirrups, Andy said something like, "A Mexican gyno? Mexican is all right for a Mariachi band but for down there you need a Jew.":)

That was my favorite as well. Very funny.

Last night I loved it when Ignacio tased Andy and then held up the taser. "I call him 'Mr. Zappy.'"

I don't think the pregnancy plot will go out soon, it's Nancy get-out-of-a-coffin card, or more out of a landfill. Now confirming that the baby's Esteban's and male..

I LOL at the chinese woman, funny stuff..

Poor Shane, he's in big trouble... Shane revenge time?

Your observation that we didn't actually see DEA Captain Roy Till get killed last night is keen. I'm skeptical that he's dead. He could return and kill Esteban yet for all we know.

In the immortal words of Bones McCoy - He's dead Jim. They made it very clear that revenge was all Till was living for, which was code for letting us know he wasn't going to survive. We didn't see the deed actually done because this show doesn't roll that way, so to speak. It's a comedy, albeit a dark one; no need to see the grisly details. They did the same thing with Nancy's DEA boyfriend a couple of season's back. And yep, he was dead too.

The body count is piling up around Nancy.

The scene with the two guys handcuffed to bed was hilarious. :) And the Chinese lady, too. I'm still extremely pleased with Weeds. Previews look good.

larry

We didn't see the deed actually done because this show doesn't roll that way, so to speak.

Well, as long as you don't count the grinder or U-Turn episodes (just of the top of my head.)

Well, as long as you don't count the grinder or U-Turn episodes (just of the top of my head.)

Exactly. I don't agree with Skipdrive at all. My first thought was "He must not have seen the grinder on the face of Till's partner. It was pretty gruesome. Yeah, and we definitely saw Marvin murder U-turn. We've seen Nancy hold a knife to Celia's throat and a put a gun in Celia's mouth.

Not only did they not show Till getting killed, but they also didn't show his dead body (in marked contrast to showing Peter's corpse in the stream). The show does in fact roll like that.

The takeaway is that it is not clear that Till is in fact dead. He might be; he might not. We simply do not know. To me, the lack of a death scene or a glimpse of Till's dead body was way too conspicuous given the show's proclivities.

Skipdrive says, "He's dead, Jim." I say, "Not so fast."

I didn't start watching this show yesterday.

Furthermore, we haven't seen Sucio dead. He could be next week's "dead Mexican" Celia is talking about. Then again, he could still be alive.

So Celia's runaway daughter dissappeared? that sure didn't last long, I also miss her other daughter... she was funny as hell..

So Celia's runaway daughter dissappeared? that sure didn't last long, I also miss her other daughter... she was funny as hell..
Celia's ex and youngest daughter did add a lot to the show, but it seems the plot line now doesn't leave much room for them. But who knows what may happen?... :)

larry

This season has been pretty good so far. I was skeptical at first, but the show has finally gone back to finding the humor in these dark situations. It used to excel at that, but the past season or so it seems like it has been all darkness and no humor.

I really enjoy this show, but tonight's episode, Nancy leaving Andy and Ren Mar just doesn't seem right. I guess given her options she thinks she is making the right choice, I just find it odd is all.

I really enjoy this show, but tonight's episode, Nancy leaving Andy and Ren Mar just doesn't seem right. I guess given her options she thinks she is making the right choice, I just find it odd is all.

I agree but, as others have said, the show seems to have taken a much darker turn this season and one that is not really that entertaining at times. Justin Kirk continues to shine but the rest of the excellent cast is not being used to maximum advantage anymore.

I enjoyed this week's episode. Celia's discovery of "Dead Mexican!" and Andy's weird assignation with the bank lady, his dead brother's former flame, in order to get his brother's money from a bank account were particularly funny.

I sort of understand why the writers decided to have Nancy move in with her Mexican drug lord lover instead of having an abortion and running away with Andy. There probably is a lot more comedy gold to be mined from the family moving in with the drug lord than would have been the case if they had simply run away.

Thoughts on Alanis's performance?

Thoughts on Alanis's performance?

She seems very warm and comfortable and at ease in front of the camera. Her acting is natural and not at all wooden. If I didn't know she is primarily a singer/songwriter, I would have assumed she is a veteran actor with dozens of roles spanning many years on her resume.

I'm impressed.

I understand Nancy's thought process especially if Celia is to be Continuously Unavoidable Nuisance & Troublemaker.

Nothing about the cop in this episode? He must be dead then?

We're so over Celia, she's just an anchor now.

The story with Andy's new "girlfriend" is funny. The sex in the homeless area was just great. I'm not too sure about Nancy leaving Andy. My guess, they will live back together later on. We haven't seen Celia's daughter, Megan in a while.

I think Celia's daughters are Isabelle and Quinn.

Oh, that's right.
So, Megan the deaf girl, was just a school student that dated Silas in season 1/2?
Never mind, I guess that's it.

Last night I just noticed a new episode from Monday night. I guess I was assuming there wouldn't be one like the Sunday shows. Good episode. Nice to see Celia's young daughter pop in again.

larry

I understand Nancy's thought process especially if Celia is to be Continuously Unavoidable Nuisance & Troublemaker.

Aah, Celia's got an acronym, I see... :rolleyes:

Good I was hoping that wouldn't be lost through the posts.

Interesting jump, I wondered how they were going to handle that. More twists, Nancy seemed almost content for once.

Last night I just noticed a new episode from Monday night. I guess I was assuming there wouldn't be one like the Sunday shows. Good episode. Nice to see Celia's young daughter pop in again.

larry

Is like they read my mind... LOL nice to see her again..

OK Nancy moved in with Esteban, I suppose that was the House in the US? or in Mexico? (he mentioned that he had a House in the US).

Judging on the House Style I say is in Mexico...

The writing in Weeds continues to be inspired. I loved the 6 month jump in the time line to account for Nancy's advancing pregnancy and the mystery woman who read out Esteban at the end of the episode was intriguing, too. A lot of shows go flat after awhile, perhaps most of them, but Weeds has not lost a step yet, it seems to me.

But are we expected to understand Spanish in order to follow this program???

But are we expected to understand Spanish in order to follow this program???That’s the first question. The second one is---It is unbelievable, :confused:(since this is the second time this has come up here) is there anyone here, on this AVS thread, that watches this show and speaks Spanish? :confused::D What was she saying? Is that his sister? His wife?

That’s the first question. The second one is---It is unbelievable, :confused:(since this is the second time this has come up here) is there anyone here, on this AVS thread, that watches this show and speaks Spanish? :confused::D What was she saying? Is that his sister? His wife?
I think the writers wrote the scene in Spanish in order to create the questions, which they knew would arise in the minds of their mostly non Spanish speaking audience. I don't speak Spanish and don't know what the lady's connection to Esteban might have been. Nevertheless, I loved the scene and look forward to seeing what happens next.

......What was she saying? Is that his sister? His wife?


His ex-wife? His mistress?

Read this on a message board discussing last nights episode and the English translation of the final scene:

Woman: "Esteban...What do you think you're doing? You've gone too far, don't you think? One thing is having an "adventure" with a *expletive* gringa, and another is...well, until you have a baby with her."

Woman continues: "But to marry her, are you crazy?! All eyes of Mexico are on you. All my expectations, my hard work, my money, my time are put on you! Had you killed the *expletive* gringa whore when you had the..."

Esteban: "You mean, I have to choose between them and Nancy?"

Woman: "No. You have to choose between you and the gringa."

Read this on a message board discussing last nights episode and the English translation of the final scene:

Woman: "Esteban...What do you think you're doing? You've gone too far, don't you think? One thing is having an "adventure" with a *expletive* gringa, and another is...well, until you have a baby with her."

Woman continues: "But to marry her, are you crazy?! All eyes of Mexico are on you. All my expectations, my hard work, my money, my time are put on you! Had you killed the *expletive* gringa whore when you had the..."

Esteban: "You mean, I have to choose between them and Nancy?"

Woman: "No. You have to choose between you and the gringa."
Thanks. Very interesting!

And, we can do without the pop-ups!!

larry

Read this on a message board discussing last nights episode and the English translation of the final scene:

Woman: "Esteban...What do you think you're doing? You've gone too far, don't you think? One thing is having an "adventure" with a *expletive* gringa, and another is...well, until you have a baby with her."

Woman continues: "But to marry her, are you crazy?! All eyes of Mexico are on you. All my expectations, my hard work, my money, my time are put on you! Had you killed the *expletive* gringa whore when you had the..."

Esteban: "You mean, I have to choose between them and Nancy?"

Woman: "No. You have to choose between you and the gringa."

Yes, I read the same thing in several different posts on another board, from Spanish speakers, explaining essentially the same meaning. Someone even quoted the roughly translated passage from Showtime's website.

It seems to indicate that Esteban does indeed have higher ups. In fact, the woman is not his mistress or wife, but it is suggested that she is his patron, or one of his patrons. Thus, he works for her. That is why she, and possible others in a group of patrons, gets to dictate to Esteban that he cannot marry Nancy and continue to lead the lifestyle they have provided him.

He has to choose between his life (possibly literally, but more likely figuratively, as "they" could ruin him in a flash) and his life with Nancy. He cannot have both. That is why he told Nancy he cannot marry her now.

We are left with the cliffhanger now as to why exactly (although the Spanish translation from his patron seems to indicate that his patrons simply will not allow it because it is an embarrassment to them), and how Nancy will react. The teasers from the next episode seem to suggest Nancy runs to Andy to seek his counsel and they both panic and decide to flee after all.

Something tells me someone or something will stop them. I suspect a threat or an emergency concerning Silas or Shane will keep them there.

She seems very warm and comfortable and at ease in front of the camera. Her acting is natural and not at all wooden. If I didn't know she is primarily a singer/songwriter, I would have assumed she is a veteran actor with dozens of roles spanning many years on her resume.

I'm impressed.

You should check out Kevin Smith's "Dogma", then. Alanis gives an hilarious portrayal of God as an innocent yet omnipotent naif, and without speaking a word. I fully expected to see more of her thespian side after that. I suspect that if she were more of a raving beauty, practically a job requirement for aspiring singers these days, we would have seen much more of her on the screen in recent years. She's multi-talented, for sure.

Nothing about the cop in this episode? He must be dead then?

Yep; just as, um, someone mentioned a few posts above. ;) It was as unnecessary to show Till's actual murder as it was to show Peter's. We know they're gone.

Yep; just as, um, someone mentioned a few posts above. ;) It was as unnecessary to show Till's actual murder as it was to show Peter's. We know they're gone.

Ok, I'll "cop" to you're being right on that score. Yesterday I read an interview with the actor who portrays Captain Roy Till, and in it he admits that his character has been killed off the show.

I still maintain that Weeds does go "there," with "there" being getting a little grisly at times. Although they didn't show Peter's actually being killed, they most certainly did show his dead body in the stream, complete with a close up of his face so that we knew it was him. There is a distinction between the show's handling of those two deaths, as not only was Till's death off screen, but they never showed the aftermath. It was merely implied when they showed Esteban and Ignacio emerging together. Furthermore, they did show Agent Schlatter's face bloodied and half-sanded off before he died, for an example of their willingness to show grisly and gruesome.

Perhaps different writers and/or different directors handled the respective stories, and thus we get the different styles.

Anyway, I appreciate your perspective and input. Thanks for being cool about it. Oh, and thanks for the tip on Alanis in Dogma. I haven't watched it yet, but will try to do so soon.

Oh, and thanks for the tip on Alanis in Dogma. I haven't watched it yet, but will try to do so soon.

Ummm, I probably shoulda' asked, you're not Catholic are you? :eek: :p

Let me add my thanks for the Dogma tip. It is out on BD and is available at BB, so I put it in my queue. I am looking forward to seeing it. After all, what could be wrong with a little meanspirited irreligiosity in a good cause?:)

EDIT: I did a little research on Dogma after I put it in my queue and found an old Salon review, written by Charles Taylor (http://www.salon.com/ent/movies/review/1999/11/12/dogma/index1.html). He loved the movie generally and Alanis Morisette's performance in particular:

Perhaps Smith's reliance on his dialogue is the reason he takes such care with his casting, and why he gives "Dogma" the perfect capper in the oddball triumph of Alanis Morissette as God. Alternately stern, forgiving and a goofball, Morissette comes very close to the comic sublime here, whether she's cradling a fallen angel in her arms or dropping down on her haunches to smell some flowers, very pleased with her own handiwork. There's no more perfect emblem of the movie's blend of the silly and the serious than seeing Morissette's God go from dishing out divine fury and benediction in her Christian Lacroix outfit, to watching her do a handstand and reveal a pair of baggy plaid boxers.

Great to see Kate del Castillo in this show. I didn't recognized her from the previous last week. Interesting too that they (Demian Bichir, aka Esteban, and her were a couple a few years ago).

Ummm, I probably shoulda' asked, you're not Catholic are you? :eek: :p

Ha. Thanks for asking, but no, far from it. It's pretty safe to say that you couldn't offend me with religious satire.

Tonight, any wooden "untensils" in the store displays are handmade by a friend of mine. A link to his site is spoilerized and my apologies if it's out of line. It's not illegal until a person makes it that way, as I understand it.

http://www.edstnt.com/

Tonight's ep was the first to contain more than one or two decent laughs since this season began. I'll certainly continue to watch regardless, but I hope they manage to steer the show back to something a little lighter. I really do miss the tone of season one.

I don't like what they are doing with Doug, he was really funny in the previous seasons and now he's really annoying.

^^^
I was thinking exactly the same thing!
Doug is just not funny or enjoyable anymore.

I agree. Doug seems like a real PITA these days. Maybe he's just too much of a pothead. Not caring what other people think, always high and always selfish.
His actions still make me laugh though (some times)

I think Andy will cash in on her favor. :p

Agree as well, the Doug character can leave and never come back for all I care, there doesn't seem to be any point to his character except to act stupider than any human would even if they were stoned all the time.

Let me add my vote in favor of what seems to be have been the unanimous opinion so far that Doug has been an irresponsible, drug addled doofus this season, so much so, he's not funny any more. There were elements of that in earlier seasons, of course, but he had some appealing redeeming virtues then that are totally lacking now.

I enjoyed this week's episode. The new baby, the Mexican king maker dragon lady, and Andy versus Esteban for the unpregnant Nancy's affections are promising developments. I got a kick, too, out of the crooked cop finally getting his comeuppance.

Edit: My post contains spoilers.

Good episode last night. Glad to see Lupita back.
I don't see why Nancy needs her to raise/take care of "it." She doesn't have a full time heavy career. The penis in the drawer was crazy! Doug really went thru with it. When Celia and Dean were speaking about ripping off Doug and Cilia, something was said from Dean "I can close drawers" :p

Oh, and putting Andy on the birth certificate? crazy stuff.

Good episode last night."What do you practice on?"

"Goyim."

Hilarious!

"What do you practice on?"

"Goyim."

Hilarious!

That and the Rabbi saying how the Bris ceremonies had paid for his Summer house (methinks that you and I may share something that made the references that much funnier).

Edit: My post contains spoilers.

Good episode last night. Glad to see Lupita back.
I don't see why Nancy needs her to raise/take care of "it." She doesn't have a full time heavy career. The penis in the drawer was crazy! Doug really went thru with it. When Celia and Dean were speaking about ripping off Doug and Cilia, something was said from Dean "I can close drawers" :p


It was a great show last night. The writers have really gotten the show back on the Weeds rail that we've all enjoyed so much. The bit with Doug, Dean and the drawer was a classic as was Dean and Ceila's "reunion". Elizabeth Perkins and Andy Milder play off each other very well (even if it always means Dean suffering physical damage of one kind or another). It was like nothing had changed. The Bris ceremony was too funny as well.

The bris (snip part) was more 'graphic' than that Seinfeld episode. :p

Wow, that was a good episode. I should re-watch the episode before beginning into the discussions.
The part of Andy in bed, having fun was a lil funny. I forgot what Nancy said before leaving the room, something like "Have a good explosion"
Not sure how Doug's going to mess up Celia's new job, but I'm sure he is.

This was a good episode. I laughed out loud at the cover story Dean told Silas and Doug about how he had lost their pot, which he had recovered from the police, and how he got the bruise on his face. I also get a kick out of Cesar's subtle reactions to Esteban's emotional explosions over Nancy. There is a bunch of subtly funny stuff in this show -- as well as a bunch of not so subtle funny stuff.:)

In the bathroom scene:

Nancy: You swallowed!
Andy: I didn't want to be a hypocrite.

This was a good episode. I laughed out loud at the cover story Dean told Silas and Doug about how he had lost their pot, which he had recovered from the police, and how he got the bruise on his face. I also get a kick out of Cesar's subtle reactions to Esteban's emotional explosions over Nancy. There is a bunch of subtly funny stuff in this show -- as well as a bunch of not so subtle funny stuff.:)

It was an excellent episode with some real laughs. I think that Justin Kirk is brilliant (if you watched Angels in America, you saw how good he is) and has some of the best lines on the show. His delivery is perfect. And of all things, a male yeast infection? Just priceless and the doctor was the actress who played the murderous Selma Greene on Big Love. I almost didn't recognize her without her manly suit.

In the bathroom scene:

Nancy: You swallowed!
Andy: I didn't want to be a hypocrite.

Yes! I forgot about the breast milk scene. That was wild.

Just priceless and the doctor was the actress who played the murderous Selma Greene on Big Love. I almost didn't recognize her without her manly suit.
At first all I noticed about the actress playing the doctor was how remarkably androgynous she was. Only later did I remember that she had played Selma Green on Big Love. Her name is Sandy Martin.

Yep, Weeds is back. No where near as dark as it has been, there were so many laugh out loud moments in this weeks show. Hate to see the season or possibly the show end soon...

No replies for this past week?
Nancy going to the jail to visit__ was funny. I think Nancy should be with Andy :eek:

Nah. Andy is Nancy's Ethel.

No replies for this past week?
Nancy going to the jail to visit__ was funny. I think Nancy should be with Andy :eek:
Neither the wife nor I understand anything that's going on with the Guillermo visits.

Good episode last night. Andy and his new gall are always getting close. ha
I think she'll turn him down on his marriage proposal. Shane getting ruthless to those druged-out teenagers was a shock. He learned it from his 'summer school' or what not.

Edit: The "joke" that the three played on Celia was harsh.

Good episode last night. Andy and his new gall are always getting close. ha
I think she'll turn him down on his marriage proposal. Shane getting ruthless to those druged-out teenagers was a shock. He learned it from his 'summer school' or what not.

Edit: The "joke" that the three played on Celia was harsh.
I enjoyed this week's episode, too. I thought the opening scene with Celia doing her parody of Nancy for Isabelle was a classic. I LOVE Elizabeth Perkins.:)

Good episode last night. Andy and his new gall are always getting close. ha
I think she'll turn him down on his marriage proposal. Shane getting ruthless to those druged-out teenagers was a shock. He learned it from his 'summer school' or what not.

Edit: The "joke" that the three played on Celia was harsh.

I agree that Dr. Audrey will probably turn down Andy's marriage proposal.

I think Shane's reference to "summer school" was his ditching school and hanging out with Ignacio. Ignacio terrorized some golfers at a driving range and Shane witnessed his ruthlessness and violent behavior. Also, during "summer school," Ignacio goes with Shane to his teacher's apartment to oversee his taking his dope back, and that's when Shane shoots his teacher's bird. Finally, Shane saw his mom getting tough with the baseball bat on his teacher when they returned to make Shane return the items he had stolen in retaliation. Of course, it was during the summer that Shane got shot as well. He doesn't seem to fear violence.

Remember, that in the second season Shane witnesses his mother take a knife to the throat of Celia in their kitchen. When he starts his new school in Ren Mar in Season Four, at lunch the first day Shane goes up to the most popular kid in school and whacks him full on in the face with a lunch tray so all the other kids will see it and not mess with Shane. Oh yeah, and in Season One Shane shoots a roaming mountain lion in the eye with a BB gun.

As messed up as he is, Shane is a fearless little badass.

It was great to see Andy call Nancy out on her decisions in life. As much as she acts like she's a passive victim of circumstances, she really did mess up her kid's lives with her greed. While I'm sympathetic to her character, I can't help but think back to season one, when she made the decision to start growing her own product and expand her business. She had it made in the shade up till that point, she was small time and flying underneath the radar. Andy was right, even if he was a bit harsh in expressing it to her.

Nice Family Nancy has:

- Older son drug grower/seller (at least premium quality)
- Shane badarse kid, sleeping with 2 girls, getting shot, also drug seller
- Even the new born, son of a Mexican politician drug lord.
- Brother in law is crazy as hell, he wants her but he always has bad timing.

As much as she acts like she's a passive victim of circumstances, she really did mess up her kid's lives with her greed. While I'm sympathetic to her character, I can't help but think back to season one, when she made the decision to start growing her own product and expand her business. She had it made in the shade up till that point, she was small time and flying underneath the radar. Andy was right, even if he was a bit harsh in expressing it to her.
I think Nancy's problem is not entirely caused by greed,although that is certainly a component. I think her primary problem has always been a pathological need for excitement. She is a thrill seeker and has learned from pursuing her obsession that she is pretty good at criminal enterprises, which pay well.:)

Any word on renewal? Trying to guess if this is it, or we get another 13.

Last year I was ready for them to end it, this year 5 or 6 episodes made me want more.

I agree that Dr. Audrey will probably turn down Andy's marriage proposal.

I think Shane's reference to "summer school" was his ditching school and hanging out with Ignacio. Ignacio terrorized some golfers at a driving range and Shane witnessed his ruthlessness and violent behavior. Also, during "summer school," Ignacio goes with Shane to his teacher's apartment to oversee his taking his dope back, and that's when Shane shoots his teacher's bird. Finally, Shane saw his mom getting tough with the baseball bat on his teacher when they returned to make Shane return the items he had stolen in retaliation. Of course, it was during the summer that Shane got shot as well. He doesn't seem to fear violence.

Remember, that in the second season Shane witnesses his mother take a knife to the throat of Celia in their kitchen. When he starts his new school in Ren Mar in Season Four, at lunch the first day Shane goes up to the most popular kid in school and whacks him full on in the face with a lunch tray so all the other kids will see it and not mess with Shane. Oh yeah, and in Season One Shane shoots a roaming mountain lion in the eye with a BB gun.

As messed up as he is, Shane is a fearless little badass.;) Good summation.

I don’t care for the sexual tension between Andy and Nancy. The 70's magazine test they were taking represented “their” relationship—with each other, not her marriage and his soon to be fiancée. That was weak writing in my opinion. It reminded me of the countless sitcoms where the male and female leads spend season after season almost “making the deal”.

Otherwise, the season is great.;) I couldn’t believe who the “black guy with a badge” was. That was hysterical.:D

That season finale was pretty good. I enjoyed it.
A couple of things come to mind. Celia's new "team" is hilarious. I could only wonder what would end up happening. That was pretty bad when Celia mixed in liquor for that frozen orange juice concentrate. ha, Andy taking off once he saw the bow & arrow was a good one. Not sure if he will be coming to her defense later..

The end was a total shocker! haha
Edit: The herion addicted daughter scene was a bit out of nowhere?

Interesting ending, not sure where they will go next year, I'm not sure they know from watching Jenji discuss the ending on Sho.com.

That ending was awesome. So shocking and just out of no where. :eek:

Has this been renewed for next year? They definitely left things wide open for a new set of storylines.

Wow, holy sh***!!!!
Way to end the season, I am now looking forward to next year after tonight's finale!

Wow, very nice ending to the episode. We should have seen it comming, but it was a huge surprise at least to me when it did.

Seems like everybody is shocked or what not.
Shane is hard, indeed.

It was definitely a great ending. It just shows that as messed up as you think Shane is he proves that he's way more messed up than that :).

It was definitely a great ending. It just shows that as messed up as you think Shane is he proves that he's way more messed up than that :).

Season 6 should be a fun ride. Lots of great set-ups last night.

Just when you think that Weeds can't get any darker, sure enough . . .:) Shane has always been a twisted wild child but who knew that he had homicide in his repertoire? It's clear that Shane has little patience with folks who put out contracts to have his mother murdered and wound him in the process. Now the Botwin clan has murder to add to its already impressive list of criminal activities. That was fun stuff and I am looking forward to next season already.

Just when you think that Weeds can't get any darker, sure enough . . .:) Shane has always been a twisted wild child but who knew that he had homicide in his repertoire? It's clear that Shane has little patience with folks who put out contracts to have his mother murdered and wound him in the process. Now the Botwin clan has murder to add to its already impressive list of criminal activities. That was fun stuff and I am looking forward to next season already.

It was pretty shocking, especially the way that the polo mallet shot to Pilar was filmed. Shane has become progressively more warped as this season has gone on. Of course when you consider his life, it's hard to imagine him as just a "normal" kid. It seems to me that before he whacked (literally and figuratively) Pilar, Shane must have overheard her threatening his and Silas' lives. Well, I mean, given that, the boy must have felt that he was acting in self-defense, even if it was a bit preemptive:D

I didn't find the shocking thing being so much that he did what he did, but in the nonchalant attitude with which he followed it up as his mom is staring at him in horror.

Going to be a long wait till next season to see how it all pans out.

I'm loving the new "team", that should make for some very funny scenes.

Overall the fifth season of weeds was disappointing compared to the first three seasons. Although i love the cliffhanger with shane knocking out what's her name. I believe that the sixth season would most likely be it's last, just because the show stop being funny and turned itself into a drama. :(

Overall the fifth season of weeds was disappointing compared to the first three seasons. Although i love the cliffhanger with shane knocking out what's her name. I believe that the sixth season would most likely be it's last, just because the show stop being funny and turned itself into a drama. :(

It's still funny - but the humor is more subtle and much darker than in the early seasons. Anything with Dean & Doug is usually comedy gold.

Of course if Shane heard Pilar's death threat, he went and got whatever he could use as a weapon to finish her... Pilar was in the "your children will die tragically" mode. So I think it was an act of self defense combined with Shane's wickedness

It's still funny - but the humor is more subtle and much darker than in the early seasons. Anything with Dean & Doug is usually comedy gold.
Yes, Weeds hasn't lost anything. It may not be as "hah hah" funny as it was in the past and the added violence turns off some. I like the added "darkness". The ending surely took me by surprise!

larry

Of course if Shane heard Pilar's death threat, he went and got whatever he could use as a weapon to finish her... Pilar was in the "your children will die tragically" mode. So I think it was an act of self defense combined with Shane's wickedness

Not to be too technical legally with you, but self defense for assault or homicide usually requires that the accused believe himself to be in imminent threat of death or grievous bodily harm. A threat to visit death or harm upon someone in the unspecified future is probably not a sufficient defense legally. It could be a mitigating factor, of course, but not a complete defense.

OK, aside from that pedantic and boring tangent, yeah, Pilar had it coming to her. For my part, I'm not the least bit surprised that Shane would be the one to kill her, although I must admit that throughout most of the season I've been thinking Shane would likely kill Esteban.

Violence comes to Shane quite easily and naturally. Although he was horrified to see Ignacio beating on the innocent golfers on the driving range earlier, he seems to feel little to no compunction about using it or justifying it against those he feels deserve it. For instance, he was happy to threaten his teacher who did him wrong, and he even thought it justifiable for his own rep and protection to whack the most popular kid in school with a school lunch tray pre-emptively to ward off anyone messing with him at school.

Anyway, within the context of the show, good on him. Shane has my respect as a badass.

What will be interesting to see next season is the fallout from his presumed murder of Pilar and who the family will try to explain or justify it to authorities, or whether they will hide it altogether. Will someone else try to take the fall for young Shane? Stay tuned.

I doubt he meant self defense as it relates to legality. This show went off the legal bandwagon ages ago, if it ever was on it.

He heard her threatening to have them killed, and he took her out knowing she likely would follow through on the threat.

I doubt she's legally in the US as she seems more like a shady associate. So disposing/hiding the murder as far as US is concerned will likely not be the large issue.

Repercussions in Mexico where she had so much power will be the biggie. Especially if someone has all her dirt on Estebon ready to expose it in the event of her demise.

Repercussions in Mexico where she had so much power will be the biggie. Especially if someone has all her dirt on Estebon ready to expose it in the event of her demise.
It's going to interesting to see what Esteban's reaction to Pilar's rather abrupt departure from this mortal coil is. On the one hand, he is free. On the other, the dogs of hell could be unleashed on him if Pilar's people think that he is involved in her death (or disappearance). Shane is quite the sociopath isn't he? He doesn't have much of a moral compass, if any at all. Nancy has got to be horrified at what he's become.

Anyone else think season 6 might be the last season or are weeds going to be renewed for a seven season? If season 6 is the last they should bring back Conrad and do a spin off with Andy.

Our daughter got us "hooked" by showing all the "Weeds" seasons/programs one or two shows each evening.

After the body-count in "Weeds" it's no surprize to us that Americans, especially US Government employees, are being killed in Mexico.

"Weeds" is more than entertainment, it's reality.

Elizabeth Perkins is leaving "Weeds": http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/news/e3i8f1f42046a622bdab9da9b445c7c5b81?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thr%2Fnews+%28The+Hollywood+Reporter+-+News%29. Oh well, at least we still have Doug (Kevin Nealon) but still, not having Celia around is a huge blow to the show. :(

oh noes. Sorry to hear that. That's really not fun :(
It doesn't seem like she's being silly and leaving because of a payment request is not being met. Seems like a lot of the times, people leave a show because the company refuses to pay the star $1.5 million+ for each episode. ha.

No big loss, she's been an anchor for a while now.

Elizabeth Perkins is one of the last "fun" characters they have on the show. It will be a shame she will be leaving the show.

Interesting use of the word Anchor.
In the development/architecture world, an Anchor Tenant is a "Big box" store, such as Best Buy, Walmart, Sears, etc.
OK, never mind. :p

TV Notes
Richard Dreyfuss Joins Showtime's 'Weeds'
By Nellie Andreeva, Deadline.com's TV Editor - July 7th, 2010

Richard Dreyfuss has joined Showtime's Weeds as a recurring. In at least 4 episodes of the dark comedy's upcoming 6th season, he will play what the network describes as "an unexpected character from Nancy Botwin’s past." Season 6 of Weeds, which premieres on August 16, features Nancy (Mary-Louise Parker) and family on the lam after Shane (Alexander Gould) bopped Mexican VIP Pilar to death with a croquet mallet. Dreyfuss joins previously announced guest stars for next season Linda Hamilton, Peter Stormare, Mark-Paul Gosselaar, as well as returning guest stars Alanis Morissette and Jennifer Jason Leigh. Oscar winner Dreyfuss made his full-time series debut with CBS' The Education of Max Bickford. On Showtime, he previously starred as Alexander Haig in the 2002 docudrama The Day Reagan Was Shot.

http://www.deadline.com/2010/07/richard-dreyfuss-joins-showtimes-weeds/

Awesome news.
Thanks for the posting.

August bump.

I'm having a 3rd annual TV Watching Party on Monday to celebrate the season opener. (Some of my friend's don't have Showtime.)

Friendly reminder.
Season premier is Monday, August 16, 2010 @ 9:00 PM CST.

August bump.

I'm having a 3rd annual TV Watching Party on Monday to celebrate the season opener. (Some of my friend's don't have Showtime.)

.

Since you're telling us about it, I assume we're all invited?

Ha.

I'm not paying for your air fare :p

In a few episodes there was a young free-spirit girl, perhaps not even 20 years old, that became Nancy's brother's girlfriend. But the girl's other boyfriend, a very bruttish type with a beat up old van, showed up complicating matters. When the girl and the boyfriend departed the old van stayed behind and Nancy's youngest son had his first driving experiences with that van.

My question is, what is the name of the actress that played the young free-spirit girl?

In a few episodes there was a young free-spirit girl, perhaps not even 20 years old, that became Nancy's brother's girlfriend. But the girl's other boyfriend, a very bruttish type with a beat up old van, showed up complicating matters. When the girl and the boyfriend departed the old van stayed behind and Nancy's youngest son had his first driving experiences with that van.

My question is, what is the name of the actress that played the young free-spirit girl?Pretty sure its Zooey Deschanel.

Correct

Pretty sure its Zooey Deschanel.

That's her. Thanks.

Just a reminder... new season starts tonight.


On a related note, I'm afraid it looks like dear Mary-Louise has gone under the knife fairly recently. Every picture I've seen of her recently has her eyes seemingly pinned WIDE OPEN! She no longer looks doe-eyed and adorable. Also, both eyes do not look the same. Maybe a little work on her lips as well.

Unfortunate.

http://a.imageshack.us/img269/286/weedsmaryperkins320.jpg

http://a.imageshack.us/img841/3830/mlpeyes.jpg

^I still ****ing love her.

Speaking of which... This show hasn't lost a beat. **** still hitting the fan and it's still hi fing he lary us. L.O.F.L.

I loved last night's premier. The whole "What? you're looking at a murderer" thing was funny. Harsh how the kids couldn't pack up their things, that's totally unfair!
I would have disagreed with my mother and went into my room to grab my personal belongings. They have enough money to buy everything over again? :p

I liked Andy's 'girlfriend' I wonder if that story line will be wiped away now.

I loved last night's premier. The whole "What? you're looking at a murderer" thing was funny. Harsh how the kids couldn't pack up their things, that's totally unfair!
I would have disagreed with my mother and went into my room to grab my personal belongings. They have enough money to buy everything over again? :p

I liked Andy's 'girlfriend' I wonder if that story line will be wiped away now.

Wasnt a bad epsiode, but it was jsut a bridge epsiode IMO and didnt really get us going for this season yet. I think the Morrisette story line is done, she pretty much looked finished with Andy forever. Especially with Andy leaving with evveryone unless there is some strange twist thats the last well probably see from her.

Nielsen Notes (Cable)
'Big C' Delivers Showtime's Biggest Original Series Premiere In 8 Years; Biggest 'Weeds'
By Nellie Andreeva, Deadline.com's TV Editor - August 17th, 2010

Showtime just announced that The Big C premiere attracted 1.154 million viewers at 10:30 PM. That's the pay channel's largest audience in 8 years for an original series debut. (Previous was Odyssey 5 on June 21st, 2002, with 1.155M.) At 11:30 PM, the Laura Linney freshman series delivered an additional 429,000. The total night was 1.583 million viewers. The premiere episode was made available for online sampling two weeks ago and to date has received over 1.6M online views. The Season 6 premiere of Weeds logged 1.262 million viewers at 10 PM. With a total of 1.9M viewers last night, this was Weeds' best night ever in viewers, up 4% from the Season 5 premiere of 1.217M. At 11 PM, Weeds added an additional 629,000 viewers.

http://www.deadline.com/2010/08/big-c-delivers-showtimes-highest-rated-original-series-premiere-in-8-years-weeds-returns-with-best-night-ever/

Season opener seemed too soft, resolution-wise, here. Can't picture earlier season images exactly but don't think they were so fuzzy, especially the star. Maybe she got a 'fuzz-me' clause in her contract. Opening plot seemed too narrow, focusing only on escape minutia. -- John

Opening plot seemed too narrow, focusing only on escape minutia. -- John

First episode of the season always introduces the pieces necessary to fuel that season's plotline. You have to set things up for the madcap mayhem that will ensue. Looks like they might be spending this season on the run. This is 'Weeds', and nothing they do would surprise me at this point.

I just hope they can somehow work Kevin Nealon back into the plotline. He and Andy make a helluva team. :p

I just hope they can somehow work Kevin Nealon back into the plotline. He and Andy make a helluva team. :p

Agreed. That stuff is comedy gold. ha

Season opener seemed too soft, resolution-wise, here. Can't picture earlier season images exactly but don't think they were so fuzzy, especially the star. Maybe she got a 'fuzz-me' clause in her contract. Interesting... I noticed EXACTLY the same thing, and made EXACTLY the same comments to myself.

There was a scene with Shane and Silas talking, with Shane in a white shirt and tie, and Silas in a blue shirt, and the unexpectedly bright and harsh lighting reflecting off of Shane's shirt almost made it look gauze-like (or with Vaseline on the lens... you know what I mean).

It was not sharp and crisp, but more "artistic and ethereal"... with a diffusion filter. AWFUL, is how I would describe it.

You're right... looked very odd, and different. As was proposed, it might have to do with M-LP's "don't make my aging appearance and cosmetic surgery too obvious" contract clause.


I think this first show was physically produced at the same time as last season's final episodes. I think all characters will look older and more mature as the next episode(s) unfold, and we see this year's new story line develop.

From publicity appearance pictures I've seen recently I think Shane (Kevin Kline's son) has matured even more than he appeared last night. Definitely no longer the little boy he started out as.

Yikes, I think Shane is going to be problem in the future. Good intentions/justification or not, that kid is way too cold blooded.

Great stuff once again. lol Shanes funny.

ha.

Good episode last night. How about Miss Hot's new haircut? I love it, she does look like an exotic dancer. :eek:

The whole fake ID thing was comical. lol.

These two episodes, there was not a lot of drug dealing and drug use. From the looks of next week's previews, I assume it's coming.

Needs more Andy & Doug as a team.

ha.

Good episode last night. How about Miss Hot's new haircut? I love it, she does look like an exotic dancer. :eek:

The whole fake ID thing was comical. lol.

These two episodes, there was not a lot of drug dealing and drug use. From the looks of next week's previews, I assume it's coming.

Needs more Andy & Doug as a team.

Loved the last episode, especially Andy saying Brachots (Hebrew blessings) as he was tossing the old IDs into the fire barrel. I agree about the the hair. Mary Louise looked damned hot.

Yep, got back to a little more "fun" than in the previous season. MLP said she did not like Season 5 in an interview posted in Hot off the Press forum, I guess we are in agreement there. Too bad it took a murder to get the show back on track.

Yep, got back to a little more "fun" than in the previous season. MLP said she did not like Season 5 in an interview posted in Hot off the Press forum, I guess we are in agreement there. Too bad it took a murder to get the show back on track.

That and turning Shane into a complete sociopath. The kid is becoming downright scary and you can tell that Silas is none to comfortable with his baby brother.

LOL, another good one.

I love it, Weeds looks like it's going back to happier roots: Kevin Nealon back in the picture and the family doing small time weed dealing. Gives me hope they'll recapture the spirit of the first few seasons. Don't get me wrong, I've enjoyed all the series, just not quite as much when it got too heavy, the situations were too large in scale.

Good episode tonight.

Nice to see some T&A.
Harsh that she made him steal the oil. I would hate to put my job in jeopardy like that :(

Nice to see Keavon Nealon back in the show.

I wonder what's up with the police :eek:

Shane made the episode. It will be interesting to see how he wiggles out of his predicament. Also, that washer must have reeked with all that resin and such. And it doesn't smell like ka-ka. :)

larry

Kinda boring other than Shane getting his smug ideas squashed.

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LOL @ the end of the episode.

Good episode. She's looking cute-ish with that new haircut of hers.

I was laughing out loud during the ending "meltdown". Naked Andy holding the baby, maid and her boyfriend, the one guy signing to the deaf social worker.. what a riot! :) Shane was also funny when he was trying to keep his "bitches" in line in the park.

larry

Yeah, Andy holding the baby was a hoot.

I watched all 5 seasons over the summer On-Demand to get ready for this season and I absolutely loved this show. So far season 6 is just meh for me. I am hoping it hits its stride, but something is missing so far.

I watched all 5 seasons over the summer On-Demand to get ready for this season and I absolutely loved this show. So far season 6 is just meh for me. I am hoping it hits its stride, but something is missing so far.

This season is starting slow, but this has happeend in the past as well. Give it some time and I am sure it will hit its stride :)

I watched all 5 seasons over the summer On-Demand to get ready for this season and I absolutely loved this show. So far season 6 is just meh for me. I am hoping it hits its stride, but something is missing so far.

I feel totally different. Having to not only relocate but also re-invent themselves has added new life to the show. For me, the show's as funny -- if not funnier --than it's ever been.

I'm glad they started this episode with the ending scene from last week. Another hilarious scene. I loved the "banter" between Silas and the deaf social worker. :) Good episode.

larry

Loved the episode.
The two Hispanic guys are starting to get funnier :p

The scene with the phone call to the wife was good too.

larry

This was the first episode this season that I enjoyed.

The pissing scene/ standoff between Shane and Cesar was brilliant.

Pretty hilarious. lol

Great stuff. The show is firing on all cylinders right now. I can laugh at the absurdity without feeling uncomfortable with the dark humor.

AHAHAHAHAHAHA! Hilarious!

AHAHAHAHAHAHA! Hilarious!

An OK episode. The whole spanking and the bar sex scene was good.
Homegirl was even drinking a Stone beer at the bar :eek:

Religious aspect was funny. Andy and Doug doing a service.. lol

lol @ the angry mob at the end.

Funny scene where Doug sees the son of the guy who sold them the washing machine and says "Uturn!"
Then later says "they all look al..." cut to another scene.

I hate to admit this, because I love this show, but this season is still not exactly "doing it" for me. It feels lost and directionless and just about an occasional gag line. Maybe it is their intention for them to be lost and directionless after the lives they have lead, but it is not making for great tv like in past seasons.

Ditto. It was much better when they were growing and distributing pot, but now it's just another bawdy comedy show. I guess the intent of it is to be 'new location of the week' while they're on the run, but it's just not that funny to watch them do it. Silas and Doug are both being wasted right now, and what was up with the cameo (FBI?) interview with Dean at the beginning? I didn't see the point of that.

Andy was the highlight of Monday's episode. I'm still not 100% sure on this season but it has definitely had its moments. Honestly.... the show started spiraling out of control in like season 3. Season 5 was a great improvement over season 4 so I had high hopes for season 6. I'm glad that Showtime renewed Weeds for another season.

On a side note.... I really can't believe Nancy had sex with Zach from Saved By The Bell!!!!! LOL. His wife in the show was no beauty either.

I thought this last episode was really weak (although the bong made from garden hoses was a great sight gag). But Copenhagen? Really? Starting to sound like the end of the run.

EDIT: Season 7 confirmed on 9/20. So much for that theory. ;-)

LOL, another great episode. Looks like shits gonna really start hitting the fan again.

Boring... Filler..

Wow!! Good episode.

The ending was dramatic, and not funny :(
Silas's biological father was found, and Nancy being caught by Esteban and Guillermo.

The whole penis subject was weird.

LOL, good episode. Ending great. **** = Hit fan HARD

Yes. I purposely didn't watch the previews for next week after what just went down. Finale next week, correct?

larry

Yep... damn you making me look. Now sad. :(

Yep... damn you making me look. Now sad. :(

lol.

Just watched the Season Finale.
Wow!! :eek:

Plan C was crazy.

Just watched the Season Finale.
Wow!! :eek:

Plan C was crazy.

Agreed :) Plan C was crazy the look on Estabans face was nuts. THought this might ahve beent he best episode of the season and a very nice way to go out. I knew that the feds\police were involved at the end when they were walking out, but it was still a holy shi% moment ;).

I spotted Jenji doing an "Alfred Hitchcock" in a close-up walking by as an airline passenger. I don't recall her ever doing that before.

Wow. That was the best episode of the season and it was the finale too! It made me want to watch season 7. Well at least Nancy didn't get brutally murdered. LOL.

Great Stuff. I guess a lot of people don't know or know what Estaban looks like? Not a Celeb enough even after the election? Just a normal guy?

You had to feel for Nancy in the trunk with the corpse.

Heads up. Season Premier is tonight.

Thanks. NYC, 3 years later. Should be fun.

Guess they had to move the show up in years to (a) give some weight and consequence to what happened last season (no "Nurse Jackie"-type skating-off-easy for Nancy), (b) account for Silas and Shane's growing up (particularly the latter since Alexander Gould has gotten really big!) and (c), I hate to say it, it brings the character's appearance (i.e. M.L. Parker's surgically-enhanced looks) more in tune with the actress' actual age/look. Looking forward to seeing Nancy and 'the gang' reconnect and get back in business in no time. :)

Spoilers for last year's season of "Weeds" in this review.

TV Review
'Weeds': New York City gives Mary-Louise Parker & Co. room for growth
By David Hinckley, New York Daily News - June 27th, 2011

Nancy Botwin has moved to New York, and that may give her Showtime series "Weeds" some of the fresh energy the move was designed to provide.

When "Weeds" launched six seasons ago, Nancy (Mary-Louise Parker) was a poor widow, left with a makeshift dysfunctional family and little to build on except a marijuana-dealing business that she had to learn quickly.

Happily, she was a quick study, if not always a top-tier mom. She's had some harrowing and hilarious adventures over those seasons.

Any show that gets to season seven can use fresh challenges, though, which is what New York is all about. But in a curious way, New York isn't under a lot of pressure.

Nancy has lived such a rich, full, adventurous life that anything that happens in season seven and thereafter almost feels like a bonus, y'know?

But that's the big picture. More immediately in the small picture, Nancy has a problem. At the end of last season, she confessed to shooting a bad guy. This kept her from being shot by an even worse guy, but it did come with a downside, which is that shooting people is illegal and makes the shooter subject to penalty.

At the risk of a mild spoiler, Nancy starts this season in prison. Briefly, before a convenient series of plot turns get her released.

She's transferred to a halfway house in Washington Heights, where she discovers two things.

First, "halfway" to freedom is not the same thing as being free.

Second, you can meet darkly funny people in a halfway house. Since darkly funny is exactly the tone in which "Weeds" has always specialized, this is good.

There's a halfway house counselor who makes all his points in rhyme. Nancy reacts just as viewers would react: amused at first, then increasingly pained as this guy keeps pushing the accelerator long after his car has run out of gas.

And speaking of dopey men, we don't lose touch with the ones in Nancy's family.

Andy (Justin Kirk), Silas (Hunter Parrish), Shane (Alexander Gould) and Doug (Kevin Nealon) all have left the country and are sharing a bachelor pad of sorts. Watching Doug do his ironing is worth the whole half-hour you'll invest in watching the show.

Don't be altogether surprised, now that Nancy's half-free, if they don't all reunite for quality time in some pursuit that may not be on the halfway house's approved list.

Just one caution: While the move to New York opens new story lines, the first episode doesn't feel like a city show. It has a sprinkling of exteriors, but it doesn't feel as if it's really happening here yet.

With a little time, though, Nancy can make just about anything work.

WEEDS
Season Premiere tonight at 10PM on Showtime
Rating: FOUR STARS (out of five)

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/tv/2011/06/27/2011-06-27_nyc_gives_weeds_room_for_growth.html

(b) account for Silas and Shane's growing up (particularly the latter since Alexander Gould has gotten really big!)
I know. I remember a couple of seasons ago, during the hiatus, Gould's voice really dropped. All of a sudden he was grown-up! But his character development quickly matched, and he has become one of my favorites on the show.

Can't @#$%ing Wait! @#$% will start hitting the fan again finally! lol

God I @#$%ing heart this show! It never @#$%ing disappoints!! LMAO!!! @#$%ing loved the ending and the preview of next week! LMFAO!!

I enjoyed the season opener.

Is Esteban really dead? :eek:

Shane is having women issues. :p

Personally, I thought it was pretty weak. Thank god for Kevin Nealon.

Not sure I'm a fan of Silas this season. The modeling career (despite his real life looks) seems a bit far-fetched and just out there.

I still enjoy watching Weeds but it's not what it used to be. We'll see what happens this season but I believe it's time to put the show to bed. Odds are against it coming back to be what it once was.

larry

^^^ Exactly. The roach is pretty much all paper now. ;)

How Weeds Has Gone Wrong, and How It Could Have Saved Itself: http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/07/tk_5.html.

I still enjoy watching Weeds but it's not what it used to be. We'll see what happens this season but I believe it's time to put the show to bed. Odds are against it coming back to be what it once was.

larry

I rarely laugh during the show anymore. Season one and two when it was a more comedy driven show was when it flourished IMO. Now I'm ready for it to go

Weeds is beyond saving, sadly. It went off the rails when they left Agrestic, but could've been saveable until they went on the run and then split up. Now it just needs to end.

I rarely laugh during the show anymore. Season one and two when it was a more comedy driven show was when it flourished IMO. Now I'm ready for it to go
Once Celia and her family members dropped out completely it was pretty much over. Having Kevin Nealon still around keeps it somewhat funny. I'll watch it till it's over just because I've watched it all up till now.

larry

Oh, man, how I miss Celia. I don't think I've ever laughed so hard as I did seeing her prison "make-over." :D

Ouch, well i'll continue smoking whatever I am Still love it.

This is sort of an aside, but is it just me, or did Mary-Louise Parker look a lot like Mary McDonnell on BSG when he had the glasses on in the opening scene of the pilot? I had to do a double take...

And yeah, I'm with the rest of you in that I'm just hanging on until the end now.

Lol, Weeds is funny. It went from **** hitting the fan to how much **** can she and everyone else in that family can get in to before it all comes crashing down.

lol, another funny episode.

It was a good episode.

I think Martin Short stared in the episode? If it wasn't MS, it was another famous guest role.

Martin short is correct

More Doug, definitely more Martin Short, and less Andy (or at least a better storyline). Cuz this show is on life support.

Did Silas borrow some of Nancy's hair color? Is the dark shade supposed to make him look less of an airhead? Doesn't work.

Best episode of the season I think so far. Really just the last scene. Hopefully it cab rejuvenate the show.

Good episode indeed. Martin Short being the attorney is funny. I wonder what will happen next episode.

Just when I was going to quit on this show it came back to life in this episode!

Good episode last night. Nice to see some of the old "gang".

Good to see Helia back, just waiting for Conrad to show up sooner or later. This show has run its course but maybe they can go out in style.