My VP30 has suddenly stopped working.

The display shows "Powered by ABT" then it quickly flashes "DVDO Iscan VP30 Powered by ABT" with the power light coming on in a red color. It cycles between these 2 messages repeatedly. I've pulled the plug and done a factory reset (plug in while holding menu and exit). I was able to get the checksum displays after the reset, but it went back to flashing between those messages.

Anyone seen this before?Yes, unfortunately. Today I removed my VP30 and recabled the lot. After placing it back in its rack: identical error as described above. Quite funny, now it's four people these last weeks. Is the error already attributed to a cause?

Yes, unfortunately. Today I removed my VP30 and recabled the lot. After placing it back in its rack: identical error as described above. Quite funny, now it's four people these last weeks. Is the error already attributed to a cause?

A new power supply solved the problem for me.

My VP30 has suddenly stopped working.

The display shows "Powered by ABT" then it quickly flashes "DVDO Iscan VP30 Powered by ABT" with the power light coming on in a red color. It cycles between these 2 messages repeatedly. I've pulled the plug and done a factory reset (plug in while holding menu and exit). I was able to get the checksum displays after the reset, but it went back to flashing between those messages.

Anyone seen this before?

Yes, unfortunately. Today I removed my VP30 and recabled the lot. After placing it back in its rack: identical error as described above. Quite funny, now it's four people these last weeks. Is the error already attributed to a cause?

A new power supply solved the problem for me.

Same here, new power supply and all is well.

Looks like I joined the club as well. Several "flashes" that looked like the unit was turning on and off, now it won't even power up at all. And during the holidays with lots of family and guests over.

Between this and the audio drop-outs (pre firmware update), my unit was unhooked during the majority of my ownership.

I should have spent 2k on a slot machine instead, I bet the payoff would have been better.

I'll give them a call Monday. Hopefully they are open and not on holiday. And hopefully it's just the power supply and they support it. While I am (just) over my warranty period, this should be graced in for all the troubles we've had with this unit.

I was actually ready to upgrade this unit but will be looking harder at the competition this time. I wish I had researched the reliability before plopping down $$ for this one.

Don't know if this will help but I had to reset my tv to factory settings then tweaked it with help from the tv forum because of color issues when the ABT card was installed in the VP30. All looks good for us now.
I wonder if removing the ABT102 will help my issue. I still have terrible "purpling" in dark or neutral colored areas, and no amount of tweaking or color correction has helped. I'm gonna try removing the ABT102 tonight. I just wish they would make the standoffs easier to extract!

Thanks to Josh and DVDO for monitoring this thread and taking proactive action. Looks like I will have a power supply for football this weekend- now I just hope that's what fixes it.

I know I have been frustrated before with some of the VP-30 issues, but the service was excellent in this case. Thanks again Josh.

Wow, this is a huge thread. I'm gonna try reading it, but maybe some input will be quicker. I have an HP 5880 1080p DLP 58" RPTV. I watch both HD and SD and would like to see better SD. I have an opportunity to procure either the VP30 with the ABT card and latest firmware or an Algolith Dragonfly with the Realta HQV scaler for a bit more.
Thoughts?
Any input is welcome.

I am migrating to HDMI based receivers and have retired my VP30 + ABT card.

I'm willing to part with it for a reasonable offer

if anyone interested - please PM

Anyone know if there are any discrete pronto hex codes for Input Aspect Ratios other than just 1-4 that work. I got 1-4 from here? (http://www.anchorbaytech.com/support/documentation/IRcodes-isvp30.php) and these work fine. I tried the DVDO IR code generator from here (http://www.anchorbaytech.com/support/documentation/automation.php)but I'm not so sure they are all accurate since I can't get any of the other ones to work, along with the fact that 6-10 all seem to be the same hex code data.

Did DVDO ever finish the discrete implementation for 5-10? I didn't see it in the ccf file for the VP50 either.

Anyone know if there are any discrete pronto hex codes for Input Aspect Ratios other than just 1-4 that work. I got 1-4 from here? (http://www.anchorbaytech.com/support/documentation/IRcodes-isvp30.php) and these work fine. I tried the DVDO IR code generator from here (http://www.anchorbaytech.com/support/documentation/automation.php)but I'm not so sure they are all accurate since I can't get any of the other ones to work, along with the fact that 6-10 all seem to be the same hex code data.

Did DVDO ever finish the discrete implementation for 5-10? I didn't see it in the ccf file for the VP50 either.

For those that are interested, our complete automation document which covers both Serial and IR for all VPx0 products is now available:

http://www.anchorbaytech.com/docs/pdf/GeneralVPxxIR-SerialControlDocument.pdf

I think the above document covers your question.

Hi Guys,

I have CIH and I find myself not using the 4:3 button at all. Is there
a way to reprogram/reassign the 4:3 button to 1.78:1 and 16:9 button to 2.35:1? This would give me 1 button access instead of going through the menu each and everytime I watch scope and non-scope films. I no longer bother to watch anything 4:3 on my projector.


Thanks,



Steve

Is there a way to reprogram/reassign the 4:3 button to 1.78:1 and 16:9 button to 2.35:1?I suppose you mean on the original remote? No, there is no way. But there are many reprogrammable remotes which can do the job.

I think the above document covers your question.

Unfortunately it doesn't, and I did read through this. Unless I'm not understanding something (which is entirely possible), I see inconsistencies with the Presets. If you look on page 44 It states that the hex code Command ID is E1 for all the Presets and Value for Preset1 is 4. So Preset1 should be 0x02 0x33 0x30 0x35 0x45 0x31 0x00 0x34 0x00 0x03. And this is correct and what I used to get Preset1 working. However, when you look on page 21 where all the codes are listed, Preset1 is shown as 0x02 0x33 0x30 0x35 0x43 0x31 0x00 0x35 0x00 0x03. Taking into account the different bold values, this means that Preset1 would be C1 35 and not the E1 34 that I am using along with what is shown on page 44. :confused:

Unfortunately it doesn't, and I did read through this. Unless I'm not understanding something (which is entirely possible), I see inconsistencies with the Presets. If you look on page 44 It states that the hex code Command ID is E1 for all the Presets and Value for Preset1 is 4. So Preset1 should be 0x02 0x33 0x30 0x35 0x45 0x31 0x00 0x34 0x00 0x03. And this is correct and what I used to get Preset1 working. However, when you look on page 21 where all the codes are listed, Preset1 is shown as 0x02 0x33 0x30 0x35 0x43 0x31 0x00 0x35 0x00 0x03. Taking into account the different bold values, this means that Preset1 would be C1 35 and not the E1 34 that I am using along with what is shown on page 44. :confused:First let me say I never used discrete command for presets 5 and up, so I am not sure if they really work. But i do use most other presets.

Second, you are right about errors in the recent documentation, that is to say that nearly all examples on page 20 and later omit a 0x30 byte and indeed contain the other error you indicate.

The correct code for Preset1 according to earlier publications and according to page 44 should be STX (0x02), COMMAND PACKET (0x33 0x30), DATA COUNT (0x30 0x35), SETTING ID (0x45 0x31), NULL, VALUE (0x34), NULL, ETX (0x03), which also works for me.

I do note however, that older documentation says E1/8 selects USER, while the current documentation states E1/8 is preset5, i.e. VALUE 0x38.

If you experiment, do not forget to increase the DATA COUNT to (0x30 0x36) for VALUES 10 and up, because 10, 11 etc. are two byte codes.

I'm having a problem with my VP30+ABT102 now...

Problem: I just updated my VP30 to FW 1.14 (previously had no problems with 1.11) and I'm having issues when I switch from either a 1080p24 (passthrough) or 1080i signal to a 480i one, even on the same input (HDMI, in this case). I have the VP30 set to 1080p60 normally, with 1080p24 passthrough enabled. My TV is a Sony KDS-60A3000 1080p RPTV that supports 24p input.

Case 1: My Sony BDP-S1 is hooked up via HDMI and the 1080p24 passthrough works perfectly (thanks for that!) However, when I try to play 480i material immediately after 1080p24 (think bonus material on Blu-ray) then the VP30 gives me a blue light and I get sound output, but a black screen. Only by hitting the remote Power button and then turning the unit back on does it recognize the signal and give me correct output. After that IIRC I can go back to 1080p24 after a few screen flashes while it syncs up, but have the same problem going back to 480i.

Case 2: My Comcast/Motorola DCT-3416 cable box is hooked up via HDMI and outputs 1080i and (ideally) 480i depending on if the signal is HD or SD. As long as I stay on 1080i stations I get beautiful 1080p output to the set. As soon as I try to switch to a SD station and the box switches to 480i, it "freaks out" (for lack of a better term) and I get a squished picture on the left third of the screen, a noise block in the middle third and some vertical green lines on the right third. That's pretty special, isn't it? And if I try to go back to a 1080i station after that I get a squished 4:3 version of the 16:9 frame. Once that's occurred the only way to get the VP30 back in a good place is to PULL THE PLUG -- the power button doesn't help.

As you can imagine, I've had to leave my cable box set at 1080i for all stations -- HD and SD, which isn't ideal.

Case 3: When I switch to SDI input which is always 480i, about 1/3 of the time I get the blue light + sound & no picture problem as Case 1, above.

Absolutely all of these problems started when I updated from 1.11 to 1.14 to get passthrough.

Has anyone seen this? Any suggestions? Should I disable the Auto-* features for HDMI? Or just slay a chicken and sprinkle the blood on the unit, and hope for the best?

:eek:

-John

For problem number 2, you could try turning on pass-through for 1080i signals.

For problem number 2, you could try turning on pass-through for 1080i signals.

So try pass-through for 1080i and let 480i still be processed for the cable box? I can give that a whirl tonight. Can't get much more wiggy at this point.

-John

So try pass-through for 1080i and let 480i still be processed for the cable box?

Yes, that's what I mean. The VP30 doesn't do anything special with 1080i anyway. Depending on your TV's capabilities, the PQ might even improve.

Well a full reset to Factory Defaults appears to have cured Case 2 (cable box) and 3 (SDI input). I'm wondering if there was some leftover garbage configuration information after my upgrade from 1.11 -> 1.14.

However, Case 1 (BDP-S1 1080p24 and 480i) is still occurring. One thing I'm going to try tonight is to set the player to AUTO output and see if that makes a difference. IIRC, that will default it to 1080i (not p) when connected to a VP30. If that works, then it is something 24p related.

I'll let you guys know. Thanks again!

-John

I am migrating to HDMI based receivers and have retired my VP30 + ABT card.

I'm willing to part with it for a reasonable offer

if anyone interested - please PM

What AVR did you go with and how do you think it compares to the VP30+ABT?

Thanks
JT

Has anybody tried to pass 1080P24 through the VP30 from the Toshiba HD-A35 player. The player does not seem to handshake properly and will not set itself to 1080P24. If I connect it straight to the projetor it runs 1080P24 just fine.

What is strange is that my returned Samsung BD-UP5000 running at 1080P24 passed through the VP30 just fine.

Any suggestions?

Has anybody tried to pass 1080P24 through the VP30 from the Toshiba HD-A35 player. The player does not seem to handshake properly and will not set itself to 1080P24. If I connect it straight to the projetor it runs 1080P24 just fine.

What is strange is that my returned Samsung BD-UP5000 running at 1080P24 passed through the VP30 just fine.

Any suggestions?

Same problem here with a Toshiba HD-A30

Same problem here with a Toshiba HD-A30
As I was having a similar problem with some equipment at work I enquired about this issue directly with ABT. They have informed me that the VP30 does not support EDID when in pass through mode. It only passes the video data not the EDID data.

This is charming, so the lesson learned here is you need players that can force their resolution in order to use this mode!!

I got my VP30 and ABT102 in today. I love the picture I'm getting from it with my Oppo 980 and game consoles. The de-interlacing and scaling of this processor blows away my Denon DVD-2930CI's implementation of the Reon. The 2930 has some problems with its de-interlacer's auto mode, and there is some annoying stair-stepping with its scaling. Even its 480i output is messed-up, in that it's not straight from the disc and causes outboard processors to fail some de-interlacing tests as a result.

My only issue is that the VP30's HDMI inputs aren't spaced far enough apart to accommodate my array of Belkin silver series cables. Can anyone recommend some cheap 3-6 ft. HDMI cables that don't have a wide profile?

Molex cables are good quality, reasonable price and fit the VPx0 series well. You shouldn't need anything too special at those lengths.

Can anyone recommend some cheap 3-6 ft. HDMI cables that don't have a wide profile?

www.monoprice.com

Thanks for the recommendations. I see that Monoprice has 1.5 ft. HDMI cables, which is just what I need for some of my components. They also have a 1 ft. VGA(f) to RGBHV(m) cable that I've been looking for. Thanks again.

When my HR-21 switches channels sometimes my VP-30 displays a one inch blue line on the bottom of the picture. If I switch back a few times it will lock up and go away. Output is 1080P and it does it on all inputs resolutions 480i, 720P or 1080i over HDMI.

Any ideas?

Thanks
JT

Since it seems searching an individual thread is now kaput and the DVDO spec sheet does not answer my question, I will have to ask.

Is the VP30 able to convert a 1080p/24 source to a 1080p/24sF (aka 48i) output?

Since it seems searching an individual thread is now kaput and the DVDO spec sheet does not answer my question, I will have to ask.

Is the VP30 able to convert a 1080p/24 source to a 1080p/24sF (aka 48i) output?

The VP30 can not process a 1080p input signal (at any frame rate). This signal can be passed through the VP30, but the signal will not be output as segmented frames (sF).

Thank you Josh.

Thanks for the recommendations. I see that Monoprice has 1.5 ft. HDMI cables, which is just what I need for some of my components. They also have a 1 ft. VGA(f) to RGBHV(m) cable that I've been looking for. Thanks again.

You might want to stay away from those. I bought several of those shorter cables which are not HDMI 1.3 certified and I bought a bunch of the longer HDMI 1.3 cables which were certified.
I had problems with the uncertified 1.3 cables. Where some of them would only pass 2 channel audio, or the picture has some interference or posterization.
As soon as i replaced any of those short uncertified 1.3 cables with the longer certified 1.3 cables, any problems disappeared.
I had purchased these sometime last fall so I just threw the uncertified cables away. This was the first time I've had a problem with any of the Monoprice HDMI cables.
And I currently use several dozen Monoprice HDMI cables. Fortunately they are inexpensive so the fact that I had problems with those uncertified 1.3 cables was no big deal. I just know I won't be purchasing any more Monoprice uncertified cables in the future. If I had used them when I received them I could have returned them for a refund, but since it had been so long I didn't even bother trying to get a refund.(Although I wouldn't be surprised if Monoprice would have still offered me one)

Thanks for the heads-up, Aaron.

The 1.5 ft. HDMI cables that I bought from Monoprice have supposedly been tested for full HDMI 1.3a compatibility, so they may be new. I'm only using them for 480i output with my Oppo 980 and 480p output with my Denon 2930. I haven't noticed any issues thus far. I'm sticking to my Belkin cables for my HD sources.

i have a problem with "banding" that goes away if i use pass-through.

when i look at normal material that has been processed by the VP30 (either DVD or cable TV) it can look pretty bad. smooth skin tones or smooth black areas will have blocky regions with a noticeably green-ish or magenta-ish cast. in certain dark scenes the posterization is what i would call severe.

but here's the thing: if i switch the VP30 to "pass-through" mode, the same scenes have acceptably smooth gradients (at least in the case of cable TV- more about the DVD below).

note if i bypass the VP30 and connect the sources directly to the TV via component, they also look good (although perhaps a little less saturated- i haven't really calibrated my TV's inputs other than the HDMI which is receiving the feed from the VP30).

normally i would assume the display needs to be calibrated or i need to use better cables or i need to try a different color space on my sources or VP30 or whatever. but the fact that the cable TV feed immediately looks better when i switch to pass-through mode makes me wonder if the actual *processing* of the image is somehow causing it?

no combination of color space selections on either my comcast cable box or VP30 improves the result.

i have seen the original problem while watching DVD's, as mentioned above. however i don't actually know yet if the problem would *go away* if i switched to pass-through in the case of DVD's because, for whatever reason, i could swear the VP30 would not let me pass-through 480i coming from the SDI input. i will re-check this.

i am running 1.14 on the VP30.

my display likes 1360x768@60Hz (it's an LCD- is it wrong to use one of the "plasma" timings available in version 1.14? i am using 1360x768 #1)

supposedly my HDMI cables are rated for HDMI 1.3 fwiw.

the VP30's internal gray ramp test pattern looks ok on my display. the avia DVD's gray ramp test pattern looks ok when the DVD player is connected directly to my display (via component) bypassing the VP30, and frankly the same DVD pattern didn't look especially worse when sent via SDI to the VP30 and then on to the display. maybe i have very little experience looking at these patterns. i suppose *some* green-ish or magenta-ish artifacts could be detected, if i looked hard enough, with or without the VP30. but the real test is actual moving picture content- there the difference is unmistakable.

and yes i have already searched this site- i only post this because i could not find anything helpful after spending a reasonable amount of time searching. if i missed anything obvious, by all means point it out to me.

thanks in advance to anyone who can help me out,

-j

What is the make and model of your display and are you sure its resolution is 1360 x 768 (you said it likes it). Also is there a mode on your display to turn off the internal scaler so you are not scaling twice?

i'm quite certain it is native 1366x768. (i even used a PC and a DVI <-> HDMI cable to probe the thing for EDID and suggested timing info using moninfo.exe.) if i instruct the VP30 to do 1366x768, the TV reports it is receiving 1360x768@60Hz anyways (and indeed 3-pixels-worth on either side of the display is not used), so when displaying signals coming from HDMI this thing really prefers 1360, not 1366. also its aspect control in all cases described above does show "1:1" - i'm pretty sure it's not scaling. all the 1-pixel checks and lines are perfect.

i think this whole thing has been discussed before here - see

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=932560

he even posted jpegs that are roughly congruent with what i am experiencing. sadly, that thread trailed off with no resolution. tantalizingly, the only responder said DVDO support fixed this for him somehow but did not give details.

and as for the make and model, well, i'm too embarrassed: it's an olevia. i know, a VP30 on a budget TV, total overkill. (hey i just haven't gotten around to upgrading my display yet.) but let's be clear, this thing looked fine to me *before* the vp30. i'm hoping this all comes down to a simple tweak.

also since i first posted this i swapped the hdmi cables to and from the VP30 and comcast still looks bad. i *may* even try finding an RGBHV to 15-pin D-sub VGA cable and test all this over analog.

don't get me wrong- i love the device. it's clearly awesome in principle. i just want to know what i'm doing wrong, if anything.

I'm having a strange issue with my Xbox 360 connected to the VP30 via a VGA-to-RGBHV adapter. Some of the colors are off, but changing the VP30's color space setting from RGB to YPbPr and then back to RGB fixes it. I have to do this every time I power-up the console.

Is this a known issue with the VP30's handling of the RGBHV input, or is the 360 at fault? In case it's relevant, I have the video converted to digital and sent out over HDMI.

i think this whole thing has been discussed before here - see

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=932560

he even posted jpegs that are roughly congruent with what i am experiencing. sadly, that thread trailed off with no resolution. tantalizingly, the only responder said DVDO support fixed this for him somehow but did not give details.

Yeah, it sounds a lot like my problem, which I'm still working through with DVDO four months later. Nothing has been able to resolve the problem for me except enabling pass-through.

Try this: turn on the brightness/contrast test pattern (the one divided into quadrants) and slowly turn up the brightness (black level) on your TV. Do any of the grey bars change color? For me, individual bars go very magenta or greenish at certain stops. Check it out:

http://www.firstamericanmls.com/download/jpg/Test_Pattern_with_TV_Brightness_10.JPG
http://www.firstamericanmls.com/download/jpg/Test_Pattern_with_TV_Brightness_13.JPG
http://www.firstamericanmls.com/download/jpg/Test_Pattern_with_TV_Brightness_16.JPG
http://www.firstamericanmls.com/download/jpg/Test_Pattern_with_TV_Brightness_20.JPG

Sorry about the file sizes -- these were full res shots for DVDO to look at.

Anyway, if you see the same thing, I'd say it's the exact same problem.

I'm having a strange issue with my Xbox 360 connected to the VP30 via a VGA-to-RGBHV adapter. Some of the colors are off, but changing the VP30's color space setting from RGB to YPbPr and then back to RGB fixes it. I have to do this every time I power-up the console.

Is this a known issue with the VP30's handling of the RGBHV input, or is the 360 at fault? In case it's relevant, I have the video converted to digital and sent out over HDMI.

What resolution are you outputting from the Xbox360 to the VP30?

What resolution are you outputting from the Xbox360 to the VP30?

I'm outputting 720p from the 360 for 1080p output from the VP30.

One of my goal in getting VP30+ABT102 was to simplify and getting the most out of Mit WD-65833 DLP RP. The SD from Dish ViP722 via HDMI was jut no comparison to the HD counterpart.

So when I saw a used VP30+ABT102 up for sale with reasonable price, I grabbed it hopping that I would get my viewing experience to the next level.

After reading this thread, while waiting for the unit to arrive, I'm getting a bit less excited and more troubling. So perhaps may be there are those out that that can suggest what I should do.

The way I understand: For the ABT102 to truly shine, it needs a 480i signal, SDI preferably. Understood, but the ViP722 is an HD receiver which de-interlace and upcovert SD to either 720p or 1080i. So when it come out of the box, I already lost native 480i signal. So how do I use the HDMI output from ViP722 and feed it into the VP30+ABT102 and ensure that ABT102 de-interlace the SD signal? Anyone who has similar receiver have idea of how to configure this?

I'm now having an issue where every input source causes the VP30 to display artifacts in the form of thick vertical lines. I've tried everything and it cannot be defeated. I'm going to return it for a full refund and decide on a different video processor. It was a good experience while it lasted.

The way I understand: For the ABT102 to truly shine, it needs a 480i signal, SDI preferably. Understood, but the ViP722 is an HD receiver which de-interlace and upcovert SD to either 720p or 1080i. So when it come out of the box, I already lost native 480i signal. So how do I use the HDMI output from ViP722 and feed it into the VP30+ABT102 and ensure that ABT102 de-interlace the SD signal? Anyone who has similar receiver have idea of how to configure this?

i am sure it is possible to force the vip722 to output 480i to the VP30. (i don't have this STB myself, but instructions can probably be found online somewhere.) you may only want to do this for testing purposes, but it should be a useful test either way. just be sure you are in fact comparing only how *SD channels* look with and without the VP30...

Yeah, it sounds a lot like my problem, which I'm still working through with DVDO four months later. Nothing has been able to resolve the problem for me except enabling pass-through.

Try this: turn on the brightness/contrast test pattern (the one divided into quadrants) and slowly turn up the brightness (black level) on your TV. Do any of the grey bars change color?
i did try the test you described but my TV did not exhibit that particular behavior.

while i was at it i reset both my TV and VP30 to factory defaults (and recalibrated things enough to restore a minimally functional test environment) but it did not help.

after that i apparently messed with so many controls that i ended up in exactly the same situation as cases 2) and 3) described in an earlier post in this thread- see

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12764116#post12764116

like him, i got that behavior to go away with yet *another* factory reset on the VP30. but the original banding issue is still around.

and yes, i have confirmed pass-through is not an available option on the SDI input.

next step is DVDO support i guess. i wonder if they (or anyone for that matter) could help me obtain a *previous* firmware release such as 1.10 or 1.11. in my case i don't actually *need* pass-through, and i would be curious to know if this behavior was present in previous releases...

i am sure it is possible to force the vip722 to output 480i to the VP30. (i don't have this STB myself, but instructions can probably be found online somewhere.) you may only want to do this for testing purposes, but it should be a useful test either way. just be sure you are in fact comparing only how *SD channels* look with and without the VP30...
I guess I didn't describe my situation clearly. Sorry, I'm still learning.

Let me give the exact scenario:


ViP 722 HDMI out to TV.
Output Res: 1080i
Aspect Rat: 16x9
*HD content looks fabulous. SD content looks awful.
ViP 722 HDMI out to VP30/ABT102
VP30/ABT102 HDMI out to TV
ViP Output Res: 480i
ViP Aspect Rat: 16x9
*Here the ViP now output everything in 480i via HDMI, include the HD content as well. And it will be de-interlaced by ABT102 and then scaled up to 1080p by VP30.
I would have preferred to have the 480i for all SD be processed by ABT while the real HD(1080i) be just scaled up to 1080p by VP30 untouched by ABT. All thru one connection seemlessly.
I guess i will have to try it out these combination, once I have everything on hand.
A. ViP 480i to VP30 output 1080i
How would the HD content that has been down-converted and then reprocess by ABT and VP30 compare to the 1080i from ViP direct to TV?
How would the SD content processed by ABT102 then convert to 1080i compare to 1080i that was processed by ViP722?
B. ViP 1080i to VP30 or ViP 720p to VP30 1080i
How would the SD that processed by VP30 without ABT102 compare to SD that were processed to 1080i by ViP722.

And of course how course, how does everything look in 1080p thru VP30?

well, someone else will have to give you specific guidance on what the vip722 can and cannot do. for instance, a comacst cable set-top box can often be set to use a fixed HD resolution for all HD content and automatically switch to 480i for all SD content: this works fairly well with a VP30. ideally, your vip722 would be able to do something like this.

i predict that downconverting *all* material to 480i just to feed the VP30+ABT102 will *not* give very good results: HD material is very likely to suffer terribly in this configuration, as you rightly suspect. so it is important to seek out a solution where the VIP722 outputs 480i for SD content and some HD resolution for HD content.

most of your questions seem to show you are aware of what the interesting comparisons will be, and when you get all the gear and test it, we look forward to hearing about your findings.

i personally predict the improvement in PQ will actually be surprisingly small in your case- a typical STB or quality DVD player combined with a fixed-pixel display of recent vintage and ordinary size will already provide acceptable scaling and de-interlacing capabilities in many cases. if you were pointing a CRT projector at an 11-foot screen while viewing lots of anime DVD's or australian TV feeds, THEN i would say the VP30 would be indispensible...

I have the VP30/abt102 output via HDMI(RGB) to Mits 65833 DLP set. When I tried to set the output format to 1080p-60, I got this gibberish screen.

The picture is rotate about 45 degree and are split diagonally across. It's hard to see in the picture.

Firmware on VP30 is 1.11. It works fine for 1080i-60 or 720p-60. I want to get it to 1080p-60. Has anyone seen this or have experience with VP30 + Mits DLP TV?

I have the VP30/abt102 output via HDMI(RGB) to Mits 65833 DLP set. When I tried to set the output format to 1080p-60, I got this gibberish screen.

The picture is rotate about 45 degree and are split diagonally across. It's hard to see in the picture.

Firmware on VP30 is 1.11. It works fine for 1080i-60 or 720p-60. I want to get it to 1080p-60. Has anyone seen this or have experience with VP30 + Mits DLP TV?I don't think this can be a problem with the TV. I've seen things like this in development of the iScan processors when the scaling engine was programmed slightly incorrectly. I don't think any of the software release versions for the VP30 would do this, however. You might try slightly adjusting the output image size or timing to see how that affects things. A hard reset or just leaving the power to the VP30 disconnected for an hour or so might also be worth trying. Failing that, I'd suggest either reloading the firmware version you're currently using or updating to the latest version.

- Dale Adams

I don't think this can be a problem with the TV. I've seen things like this in development of the iScan processors when the scaling engine was programmed slightly incorrectly. I don't think any of the software release versions for the VP30 would do this, however. You might try slightly adjusting the output image size or timing to see how that affects things. A hard reset or just leaving the power to the VP30 disconnected for an hour or so might also be worth trying. Failing that, I'd suggest either reloading the firmware version you're currently using or updating to the latest version.

- Dale Adams

tried everything, including factory default. The only thing that hasn't try is update the software. I plan to do that as soon as I get the rs-232 cabling straighten out.

I don't think it's the TV either because I've sent 1080p to the TV via my HTPC and an upscaled HDMI DVD player, they seem to work fine.

OK guys, need little help.

Tried to upgrade the firmware. So initially, the VP30 ack that it has received the software but in the middle of the transmission, got ERR. So it got reset...but now seems like the old software has been overwritten. So it keep asking for abt file and I keep getting the err when I try to send it, in the middle of transmission.

more importantly, this upgrade process seem to go against all fundamental of upgrade process. I would think that this would be more advanced and sophisticated, may be not to the checksum level, but at least restore the old version when transmission go bad. Why would you override your current firmware? during the transmission? Now the unit won't even operate?

OK...now that I said my peace, who know if there any back end to get my old firmware back? or how would I get it to successfully send the file.

OK guys, need little help.

Tried to upgrade the firmware. So initially, the VP30 ack that it has received the software but in the middle of the transmission, got ERR. So it got reset...but now seems like the old software has been overwritten. So it keep asking for abt file and I keep getting the err when I try to send it, in the middle of transmission.

more importantly, this upgrade process seem to go against all fundamental of upgrade process. I would think that this would be more advanced and sophisticated, may be not to the checksum level, but at least restore the old version when transmission go bad. Why would you override your current firmware? during the transmission? Now the unit won't even operate?

OK...now that I said my peace, who know if there any back end to get my old firmware back? or how would I get it to successfully send the file.

I agree the upgrade process is pretty antiquated. I've had a couple of upgrades fail, but I was always able to recover eventually -- I'm sure you will to.

Are you using the right bit rate on both the processor and the computer? Maybe try using a slower setting, e.g., 19200. Just a thought. Give Aaron (tech support) a call if you can't get it going, and I'm sure he'll make things right.

I agree the upgrade process is pretty antiquated. I've had a couple of upgrades fail, but I was always able to recover eventually -- I'm sure you will to.

Are you using the right bit rate on both the processor and the computer? Maybe try using a slower setting, e.g., 19200. Just a thought. Give Aaron (tech support) a call if you can't get it going, and I'm sure he'll make things right.

Well, now that the unit is in limbo state, I can't get into to set the serial port info. so not sure what to set in on the tera term to match that on the vp30. does anyone know what default serial info should be? is it 57600 8N1

Well, now that the unit is in limbo state, I can't get into to set the serial port info. so not sure what to set in on the tera term to match that on the vp30. does anyone know what default serial info should be? is it 57600 8N1
Better check the detailed TeraTerm instructions on the DVDO site, I believe it's documented extensively.

next step is DVDO support i guess. i wonder if they (or anyone for that matter) could help me obtain a *previous* firmware release such as 1.10 or 1.11. in my case i don't actually *need* pass-through, and i would be curious to know if this behavior was present in previous releases...

here is yet another post describing this issue

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=11028292#post11028292

yet i am not finding any posts that describe a resolution.

i give up: can anyone tell me where i can find the 1.10.abt firmware file?

I agree that TeraTerm isn't the most user friendly way to load new firmware. For those of you who may not be aware, one of our fellow AVS forum members, Barry Gordon, developed an excellent program for reviewing settings and updating VP30 firmware. I highly recommend it.

http://www.the-gordons.net/homepage/DownLoad.html

I agree that TeraTerm isn't the most user friendly way to load new firmware. For those of you who may not be aware, one of our fellow AVS forum members, Barry Gordon, developed an excellent program for reviewing settings and updating VP30 firmware. I highly recommend it.

http://www.the-gordons.net/homepage/DownLoad.html

TeraTerm is nothing more than just an RS232 communication that send and receive bytes of info.

The robustness lies in the VP30 bootloader. It's the function of bootloader that ensure the integrity and completeness of installation. It seems that people have had experience in loading failure that left VP30 in unrecoverable state. This would be enough use case to warrant DVDO to do something about the bootloader. It's very simple actually...just DON'T wipe out any current install software until you have successfully verify that the new version of software is good and ready for next step in installation process.

A good product lies in all these intangible utility software/application that provide the ease and usability to end users. For the amount of money that these units are being asked for, i think it's sufficient to say that you should consider creating a robust application that will support their future/next generation of products.

'nough said

The main loader may run from a non-upgradeable ROM. They have probably a larger program than will not fit two copies into FLASH at the same time. Otherwise they could download a better download program during one of the updates. Lets imagine that getting numerous calls to support on the download costs either time money or a customer. Good reasons to update it if they can. I'd be happy with a USB key that does an MD5 sum of something in the / directory with a known name... heck if they are want, they can put a PGP key into it to ensure it's from them. Not all that hard and at $1K+ for all these products it should be a given. If not, the competition can/will do so and eventually solve the problem by driving the antiquated out of business.

The robustness lies in the VP30 bootloader. Indeed. AFAIK the bootloader is totally robust. It seems errors in data transport always point to problematic USB-to-serial convertors or to seemingly trivial TeraTerm settings. Of course no one is happy with the sensivety towards the convertors (and it drivers!) but are there really any confirmed "bricked" VPxx floating around?

They have probably a larger program than will not fit two copies into FLASH at the same time.
Flash memory has become such a commodity and cheap. 1 GB should be had for less that 10. I'm sure it's even cheaper for volume OEM.

Not all that hard and at $1K+ for all these products it should be a given. If not, the competition can/will do so and eventually solve the problem by driving the antiquated out of business.My sentiment exactly. Given 2 identical product by 2 different co. Which one will sell better. My vote would go to the product that has better support and utilities that support upgrade paths.

Indeed. AFAIK the bootloader is totally robust. It seems errors in data transport always point to problematic USB-to-serial convertors or to seemingly trivial TeraTerm settings. Of course no one is happy with the sensivety towards the convertors (and it drivers!) but are there really any confirmed "bricked" VPxx floating around?
I have one that 2k "brick" right now and the only way to that I can make any use of this brick is to send it back to DVDO and have them upload the software for me.

Alright, last night finally able to upgrade firmware to 1.14 successfully. What prompt my upgrade fiasco is now closed, but I'm still faced with my original problem. I just can't seem to get this unit, VP30/ABT102, to output 1080p-60 to my Mits DLP RPTV set it (WD-65833). See post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13109029#post13109029 for picture. Tried adjusting the H/V parameters as suggest by Dale, but does not seems to work. If i changed it out too far from the TV set's requirement, the TV just go blank.

I think this problem is just isolated within specific DLP sets. Does anyone out there has the Mits DLP RPTV that is 1080p capable and have successfully sent 1080p-60 from the VP30/ABT102? How do you do it?

Hello all.

I have just installed the 1.14 firmware and wish I hadn't.
Can anybody tell me where to find an older version firmware for the VP-30?
Please?

Hello all.

I have just installed the 1.14 firmware and wish I hadn't.
Can anybody tell me where to find an older version firmware for the VP-30?
Please?
good luck- i asked the same question here a week ago.

normally i would recommend DVDO support as an obvious alternative, but at least when *i* call i always get their answering machine and have never received a call back.

good luck- i asked the same question here a week ago.

normally i would recommend DVDO support as an obvious alternative, but at least when *i* call i always get their answering machine and have never received a call back.

Thanks for the response stretch.

I seem to be having a similar problem with support.
I read through a bunch of this thread but didn't notice a response about earlier firmware and Google has not been my friend in this instance.
I guess I now know why.

I wasn't real specific on what problems I was having, but basically, all inputs required pass-through to show a picture. Had the solid blue LED but a black screen on 1080P.
I had tried all the obvious things, but no dice. I have seen a few complaints in this thread on this issue and don't know if anyone has resolved it yet, so I thought I would share.

I received an email today from Aaron @ DVDO and he suggested that I try to remove power from the unit, press and hold the menu and exit buttons on the front panel and then plug back in while keeping the buttons pressed for 2-3 more seconds.
When I did this, it scanned checksums and then did a reset.
My problem appears solved. I had done the reset before but never with the menu/exit buttons pressed and I never noticed any checksum verification in the regular reset procedure.

Maybe this can help out with some other issues that people are having as well.

One of my goal in getting VP30+ABT102 was to simplify and getting the most out of Mit WD-65833 DLP RP. The SD from Dish ViP722 via HDMI was jut no comparison to the HD counterpart.

So when I saw a used VP30+ABT102 up for sale with reasonable price, I grabbed it hopping that I would get my viewing experience to the next level.

After reading this thread, while waiting for the unit to arrive, I'm getting a bit less excited and more troubling. So perhaps may be there are those out that that can suggest what I should do.

The way I understand: For the ABT102 to truly shine, it needs a 480i signal, SDI preferably. Understood, but the ViP722 is an HD receiver which de-interlace and upcovert SD to either 720p or 1080i. So when it come out of the box, I already lost native 480i signal. So how do I use the HDMI output from ViP722 and feed it into the VP30+ABT102 and ensure that ABT102 de-interlace the SD signal? Anyone who has similar receiver have idea of how to configure this?


I'm kind of in your boat...I'm going to pick up a cheap ($150) Oppo 970 HD as it outputs 480i via HDMI...this should be very nearly as good as SDI, right?

I'm kind of in your boat...I'm going to pick up a cheap ($150) Oppo 970 HD as it outputs 480i via HDMI...this should be very nearly as good as SDI, right?

or, a OPPO DV-980H - also does 480i/576i over hdmi and has better audio than the 970 and only $169 retail and replaces the 970 now (so more likely to get f/w updates for longer etc.)

or, a OPPO DV-980H - also does 480i/576i over hdmi and has better audio than the 970 and only $169 retail and replaces the 970 now (so more likely to get f/w updates for longer etc.)
as to whether it's better than SDI, well, that has been debated exhaustively (and often contentiously) all over this site. so far the clearest comparison seems to be a screen shot prepared by a guy who sells SDI mods. his SDI-outfitted 981 shows less ringing than the 970 over HDMI when viewing the avia sharpness test pattern. it's up to you to determine if this would be worth the additional cost.

i happen to have SDI. i like knowing i have a good rig, but i haven't thrown myself on the ground weeping grateful tears because of it.

as to whether it's better than SDI, well, that has been debated exhaustively (and often contentiously) all over this site. so far the clearest comparison seems to be a screen shot prepared by a guy who sells SDI mods. his SDI-outfitted 981 shows less ringing than the 970 over HDMI when viewing the avia sharpness test pattern. it's up to you to determine if this would be worth the additional cost.

i happen to have SDI. i like knowing i have a good rig, but i haven't thrown myself on the ground weeping grateful tears because of it.

As you say, it's all about value for money. An SDI mod would surely be better, but it's literally 4 times the price and I couldn't make that add up for me. My 980H outputting 576i into my VP50Pro out to Pana PF10 is certainly very nice. Would SDI be better - yes, probably but just not better enough for me at this stage. Now, HD-SDI will require another look of course....

I had issues with my VP-30 not turning on... Turned out to be the power supply. DVDO was great, they responded to my email quickly and sent out a new power supply right away. THANKS AARON!!!!!!!!!!

I'm just glad to have my system back up and running. Someday maybe the wife will let me upgrade to a VP50...

Alright, last night finally able to upgrade firmware to 1.14 successfully. What prompt my upgrade fiasco is now closed, but I'm still faced with my original problem. I just can't seem to get this unit, VP30/ABT102, to output 1080p-60 to my Mits DLP RPTV set it (WD-65833). See post http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13109029#post13109029 for picture. Tried adjusting the H/V parameters as suggest by Dale, but does not seems to work. If i changed it out too far from the TV set's requirement, the TV just go blank.

I think this problem is just isolated within specific DLP sets. Does anyone out there has the Mits DLP RPTV that is 1080p capable and have successfully sent 1080p-60 from the VP30/ABT102? How do you do it?
soyuppy- what output settings are you using in the meantime? did you find that the VP30 improved anything with the dish vip722?

soyuppy- what output settings are you using in the meantime? did you find that the VP30 improved anything with the dish vip722?
I can only get 1080i-60 to the DLP set. I tested with a Samsung LCD at a friend and it did worked with 1080p-60. Anchor Bay will looked at it at cost of 300.00 to open it up and then anything after that is time and material. No thanks.

So I test it with 1080i via HDMI.

1. Vip722 (480i) via S-Video
*SD Content seem sharper, but picture appear to shady and darker.
*HD Content is as suspected. Not good.
2. ViP722 (480i) via HDMI(this is achieve by setting the ViP722 to output 480i).
*SD content is comparable to Vip722 direct to TV. But it still darker overall.
*HD content is just a tad darker. But during fast action movement, I got
digital pixelation all over the screen.
3. ViP722 (1080i) via HDMI.
*SD same as ViP 722 direct to TV. Figure this should be the case since, the ABT102 does not kicked in. And since I can't get it to 1080p-60, it's a washed.
*HD content still couldn't get any brighter comparing the ViP direct counter part.

Well, the big caveat is that I couldn't get it to output 1080p-60 to my DLP set. So it's pretty much back on audiogon. There's no point to spend that kind of $$ on something that is not yielding any improvement.

Sorry

i realize most of the VPx0 braintrust is hanging out over in the VP50 Pro thread these days (and besides, no one showed much interest in my banding issue (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13082437&postcount=6534) the first time i brought it up), but i also realize that many people search through these archives looking for solutions, so i'm just going to keep following up on this whenever i have new findings to report.

specifically, i was able to obtain the 1.10 firmware file VP30_v1.10.abt from DVDO support.

reverting back to 1.10 (from 1.14) did improve the situation somewhat.

in a supposedly uniform area of color, there will still be tiny regions with a green-ish or magenta-ish cast, but now they are less blocky and much less objectionable. it is almost as if they were being dithered somehow.

also banding in smooth color gradients is much less noticeable now.

the effect in either case could almost be described as "grainy".

i am not saying the original issue has vanished after reverting to 1.10 firmware- it is simply much less objectionable for some reason.

ps- DVDO support did toss out one idea about 601 vs 709 color spaces, with the caveat that this was not something that could be controlled on a VP30 (of course i was asked if i wanted to upgrade to a VP50 pro which apparently does have some features along these lines).

Hi,
My newly arrived VP30 gives a giltched picture with 1080i sources, while it displays well any resolution under like 720p. Before I can return it, my seller gave me the advice to reupdate the firmware although it is already the latest 1.14. However my new pc doesn't have a serial port, and I'm wondering if I use an adapter cable from serial port to usb, will the software update still work ?

Hi,
My newly arrived VP30 gives a giltched picture with 1080i sources, while it displays well any resolution under like 720p. Before I can return it, my seller gave me the advice to reupdate the firmware although it is already the latest 1.14. However my new pc doesn't have a serial port, and I'm wondering if I use an adapter cable from serial port to usb, will the software update still work ?

you might try doing a checksum of the existing firmware (note this procedure sets your box back to factory defaults while it's at it) - see recent post at

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=13174411&postcount=6565

if that doesn't help there's plenty of information on upgrading generally and the "FTDI USB-to-serial driver" specifically at

http://www.anchorbaytech.com/support/software_downloads/vp.php

start there

The checksum didn't detect any errors, however after the settings were reset, the vp30 could display 1080i fine.

So thanks a lot mate, I would never have thought that this function could exist, and you have saved me the money, trouble and time of returning the unit for nothing !

I have a question. What are the benefits of the VP3- for HD signals? Like 720p and 1080i signals. Also does it do any processing one 1080p signals? Noise Reduction, Artifact removal, etc.? Is there a few on the performance on HD signals?

I know all the SD benefits with the daughter board upgrade. But haven't read anything on how good this scaler is without the extra upgrade, how good it is with HD signals. I want it for 480i/p, 720p, & 1080i all to 1080p but unsure of the performance for the latter two.

Thanks in advance.

I have a question. What are the benefits of the VP3- for HD signals?
Very, very limited. See the DVDO Comparison Chart (http://www.anchorbaytech.com/support/comparison_chart/) for details.

For full HD processing (scaling and/or de-interlacing) of digital signals (720p/1080i/1080p) you need to consider the VP50 or VP50 Pro, and only the VP50 Pro offers Mosquito Noise Reduction, Fine Detail Enhancement and Edge Enhancement.

Hi guys,

I'm a bit new here, but have been lurking around quietly for a while.

...And now I need your help please.

I have a VP30 and deinterlace card. A week or so ago we had a huge storm here and the associated power surge. As a result, the VP30 died and wouldn't come back up.

I sent off two emails to DVDO Support, without any response whatsoever. Finally called them and they advised it was likely the external power supply. Well, in little ole New Zealand it appears no-one has any 6V 5A DC power supplies, so I had to get one made. It is working fine now, so I decided to upgrade the s/w from 1.10 to 1.14...and this is my problem.

I am using TerraTerm Pro, and have downloaded the v1.14 abt file from the Anchor Bay site.

The upgrade process starts to run and everything seems fine - until it gets to 985897 bytes and then stops. The message on the Terra Term screen advises the file is corrupt and to press the front panel button to restart, which I do. But the response from the unit is 'Loading ERR. Press any button.'

I have tried to load the software up around 7 or 8 times, all with the same result (the first couple of times the process failed around 851000 bytes).

Can anyone offer any advice or assistance? I have turned off Windows Firewall and my virus protection as well, as I thought these could be causing issues. No luck.

Any help appreciated as I am bordering on desperation now (esp with the family bitching at me...)

Thanks,
Richard

Hi guys,

I'm a bit new here, but have been lurking around quietly for a while.

...And now I need your help please.

I have a VP30 and deinterlace card. A week or so ago we had a huge storm here and the associated power surge. As a result, the VP30 died and wouldn't come back up.

I sent off two emails to DVDO Support, without any response whatsoever. Finally called them and they advised it was likely the external power supply. Well, in little ole New Zealand it appears no-one has any 6V 5A DC power supplies, so I had to get one made. It is working fine now, so I decided to upgrade the s/w from 1.10 to 1.14...and this is my problem.

I am using TerraTerm Pro, and have downloaded the v1.14 abt file from the Anchor Bay site.

The upgrade process starts to run and everything seems fine - until it gets to 985897 bytes and then stops. The message on the Terra Term screen advises the file is corrupt and to press the front panel button to restart, which I do. But the response from the unit is 'Loading ERR. Press any button.'

I have tried to load the software up around 7 or 8 times, all with the same result (the first couple of times the process failed around 851000 bytes).

Can anyone offer any advice or assistance? I have turned off Windows Firewall and my virus protection as well, as I thought these could be causing issues. No luck.

Any help appreciated as I am bordering on desperation now (esp with the family bitching at me...)

Thanks,
Richard

Have you done updates from that PC before? Has it got a serial port or are you using a usb-serial converter?

Try a proper serial port if you can and also have a look for Barry Gordons firmware update util (should be links in this thread), these usually help.

Barry's utility can be found here: http://www.the-gordons.net/homepage/DownLoad.html
It's an excellent tool.

Have you done updates from that PC before? Has it got a serial port or are you using a usb-serial converter?

Try a proper serial port if you can and also have a look for Barry Gordons firmware update util (should be links in this thread), these usually help.

No, I haven't tried from this particular laptop before. I am using a USB-Serial converter though, and on the last laptop I tried it on a year ago, it worked (albeit I did have similar issues, but it eventually worked).

I managed to find v1.10 (my original software) and have been trying to install this as there is no .abt file in the unit now. However, this stops at 940597 bytes.

I'll try Barry's utility and see what happens.

Stay tuned...

Cheers,
Richard

Well, I have downloaded and tried Barry's utility as well - again without any joy. His utility isn't even detecting my VP30. I have set it to scan all Com ports (the USB-Serial is showing up as COM2 in Device Manager), but it shows the transmission has timed out straight away.

I'm at a loss and am REALLY started to get p*ssed now.

I will email Barry, but in the meantime does anyone know what could be wrong?

Should I be using a DB9 to serial adapter instead of the USB-Serial cable????

Well, I have downloaded and tried Barry's utility as well - again without any joy. His utility isn't even detecting my VP30. I have set it to scan all Com ports (the USB-Serial is showing up as COM2 in Device Manager), but it shows the transmission has timed out straight away.

I'm at a loss and am REALLY started to get p*ssed now.

I will email Barry, but in the meantime does anyone know what could be wrong?

Should I be using a DB9 to serial adapter instead of the USB-Serial cable????

Serial-to-serial is the best way to go but USB-to-Serial should not be a problem either. Just to be sure, did you see this warning at the top of the page when you downloaded the software?

We have found problems with the newest FTDI USB-to-serial driver (1.0.2176.0). If you have this driver and use it to install any .abt file, you will not be able to complete the installation and your iScan will be in a useless state until you can install an .abt file with the driver we have available below or a serial-to-serial connection. We are attempting to get this corrected in the next driver version, but we would like to provide a solution for this problem now. If you revert to the previous version driver there are no issues. Note: this only applies to adapters with the FTDI chip-set.

FTDI was working with us on fixing this in a later version of their driver after admitting it was a problem in their software and they have since ceased to provide a solution.

I've just noticed when using Barry's s/w, as soon as it starts to look for the VP30, the unit shows the standard error message - 'Loading...ERR. Press any button'.

I've tried TerraTerm andBarry's s/w from 2 different WinXP SP2 laptops, without luck. I'll shoot down to the local electronics shop and buy a 1:1 serial adapter...but I'm beginning to think my beloved VP30 may have died a sad death...

Hi Josh,

Thanks for the reply. I am using an adapter with the FTDI chipset - the version I'm using is 2.4.6.0, dated 13/03/08.

I'll try serial-to-serial and see what happens.

Couldn't get serial to serial going - but given what Josh said in his post about the FTDI drivers, I thought I would install the older drivers over the top of the new drivers as outlined on the DVDO support site.

This is the same laptop I used a year or so ago to do the first update on the system, and I recall I installed the old drivers back then, so I thought there was no way it could be the drivers that were causing me problems.

I installed the old drivers again, and guess what? The update worked. I feel like a bit of an idiot now...

I never installed the new drivers for the USB to serial adapter I had, so at some stage Windows must have decided it was doing me a favor and updated them for me (Lesson 1 in life: NEVER underestimate the power of Windows - it is almost greater than the 'force'...).

After setting everything up, I had some issues with the picture from my Sony RDR-HX1010 DVD recorder via HDMI - the picture was a purple/cyan color. In passthrough mode it displayed correctly. When I switched it to 720p/60, the picture froze and then the screen would have a blue band that covered everything other than the bottom 2 inches on my Pioneer 50" plasma. I couldn't figure out what was wrong, so I did a bit of fiddling and it seemed to come right (can't recall exactly what I did - I think I changed the Output color space setting on the VP30 to 444).

I'll keep an eye on it and see what happens. Hopefully it won't happen again, but if it does I'll try the reset as described earlier - last resort as I don't want to lose all my settings.

Speaking of settings, is there a built-in output format preset for a Pioneer PDP506-HDG 50" plasma?

My VP30 stopped working today. The LED light is orange/amber. Can someone diagnose where the problem stems from and how likely or expensive it would be to fix/repair the unit?

Fortunately my new receiver has a few HDMI ins and has a decent scaler. Sadly it doesn't correct for overscan. The underscan on my old OPPO matches my overscan ratio, but sadly enough this trick doesn't work on my other sources.

edit: Found the thread on replacing power supply. Finding a 6v 5a power supply was a challenge and I ended up buying a variable voltage (after much searching) unit which fixed the problem. Everything is working once again,

I have my Oppo DVD player hooked to VP30 via HDMI and the HDMI output goes to TV and Optical output goes to my home theater system.

Recently I could observe significant noise on the audio, although the video is still fine. I tried changing the HDMI cables, but didn't help. The home theater setup and speaker wires are fine, because sound from cable box is perfect too.

I, then changed the HDMI port and problem went away. It seems that there is problem with one of the HDMI ports on VP30. Has anyone seen this problem? I'm presently using firmware v1.10. Is there is firmware fix for this? How do I do a soft and hard reset on VP30?

Thanks

If I understand it correctly, the VP30 can now pass through 1080p24 and uncompressed mch PCM from PS3?

I'm not sure my 720p projector will accept 1080p24, so I may have to switch back to 1080i from PS3. Will the VP30 automatically delay audio when processing 1080i60 to 720p60?

If I understand it correctly, the VP30 can now pass through 1080p24 and uncompressed mch PCM from PS3?

I'm not positive about compatibility with the PS3, but the latest firmware (1.14) does enable passthrough of 1080p24. The HDMI inputs on the VP30 are HDMI 1.1, so you shouldn't have any trouble with multichannel PCM. I contacted DVDO back in late 2006 and they confirmed that the VP30 is able to pass through 8 channels (i.e. 7.1 PCM) on the HDMI inputs. I haven't seen any confirmation of this from anyone here on the forum though.

I'm not sure my 720p projector will accept 1080p24, so I may have to switch back to 1080i from PS3. Will the VP30 automatically delay audio when processing 1080i60 to 720p60?

Yes, the VP30 will automatically delay the audio to match the delay introduced by the video processing. You can also adjust the delay using the AV Lip Sync option.

Could someone please tell me how to assign an audio input from hdmi or optical to the analog output of the VP30, as I could not find any option in the system menu or any explanation in the manual ?

The VP30 has *NO* analog audio output.

Hi guys,

I have bought a DVDO iScan VP30 with the Precision Deinterlacing Card (ABT102) and the Precision SDI Input Module earlier this week.

I cannot get it to work with my Philips 42PFL9632D/10 LCD screen however. Regardless of resolution or source, the TV stays blank and aswers with the error message "non-supported video format". The VP30 is connected to the display with an Oehlbach HDMI cable.

To make sure that the scaler is working, I connected it to my Samsung SyncMaster 215TW computer monitor using a HDMI-to-DVI cable. It worked like a charm and I couldn't only access the OSD of the DVDO, but also play a round on my PS2 which I have hooked up via Component.

I have tried resetting the VP30 to factory default, upgraded to the latest firmware (1.14) and pored over threads of messages on the AVS Forum and it's German equivalent, the HIFI-FORUM - all to no avail. I'd greatly appreciate if anybody can point me into the right direction of what I'm doing wrong.

Thank you very much,

Tim

Hello every one.

I repaired my VP30 power supply myself.

I recently had the power supply on my VP30 ‘go’. The symptoms are as often described on this forum, the ABT greeting screen keeps cycling but the unit fails to fully turn on.

After a polite exchange of emails with anchor Bay it was clear that they were going to follow the letter of their warranty rather than the spirit. I am 3 months out of warranty: $50 bucks plus postage for new power supply (even though it is a documented weakness, at least on this forum and other factors – see below).

The other suggestion from AB was that I could source another supply; only it must be 6 volts (easy) and 5 amps (hard). Most ‘wall warts’ will do less than 1 amp routinely; 2 if you are lucky. 5 amps is a big deal – the AB suggestion was a little ‘lite’.

So I thought: nothing to loose, just open it up and see what is wrong.

*caution* switch mode power supplies have large value capacitors in them which will ‘bite’. I post this as an example of what I did. If you do not have any competence with electronic repairs; take to it to a shop. (It’s a very simple repair and should not cost much).

The screws that hold the unit together are under the circular rubber pads. These simply peel off. The case will open when the screws are undone, but releasing the two halves requires a little patience and ‘jiggling’ and sliding the lower case towards the line plug to release the snap clips.

Once open the source of the problem was immediately obvious. The two 1000uf smoothing caps on the output side had ‘popped’. The capacitor casings were split along the venting release scores on the ends and the plastic case itself had lots of ‘condensation’ on the inside. Clearly the caps had ‘out gassed’ their electrolytes.

Access to the underside of the PC board requires removing some earthing ‘ground plane’, basically unsoldering two wires that hold a PC copper plate.

Replacing the caps is a straightforward soldering job. These are large ‘through the hole’ lead components, not SMD’s.

The original caps were 1000uf at 10 volts. I replaced them with 1000uf at 20 volts for added safety, with a slightly larger diameter case. This was no trouble, but space is counted in the case, so stay reasonable with the values of replacements – height rather than diameter is critical.

The only tricky thing on reassembly is to line up the led with the hole in the top case.

Hope this helps someone.

Philippe

PS Given that ‘bad caps’ are a known problem with Taiwanese supplied caps (especially 1000uf) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague and this supply failure has been repeatedly mentioned on this forum, the Anchor Bays response is disappointing – I’m sure they got satisfaction from the OEM power supply manufacturer.

I am a complete novice so forgive any ignorance shown. My set up is very simple:
Toshiba REGZA 42" lcd tv capable of 1080p.
Cable box outputting 480i digital signal
Pretty bad picture quality.
I am considering buying a VP30 but Tim's experience is worrying. Anyone else had this sort of problem with Toshiba?
Also, am I correct in thinking that the VP30 will take the cable box signal and output 1080p to the tv?
Thanks

Guy

Has anyone managed to modify the official Soft. to REMOVE this completely useless HDMI HDCP curtain feature when the DVDO is connected to your Plasma/TV via RGBVH?

(I can pixel map my DVDO to my 50" Panasonic Plasma via RGBVH but NOT via HDMI, so I'd much rather use RGBVH, but it curtains any HDMI inputs with HDCP which may stand for "Hollywood Doesn't Care about People")

I say useless because let's not kid anyone, it's not this that will prevent anyone who wants to rip a HD source from doing so...

Thanks!

Has anyone had any success with the VP30 automatically adding the correct delay to mch 5.1 PCM audio (over HDMI) while processing 1080i (over HDMI) from HD-DVD and/or BluRay to 720p?

Thanks.

I have a DVDO VP30. It has been working just fine for more than a year. It has firmware v1.14 installed on it.

Last night, my VP30 froze up and no longer works. When I plugged in the power, a message:
"DVDO iScan VP30
Powered by ABT”
appears on the FPD, immediately followed by:"Powered by ABT” . It stays like this for few seconds and then again I see "DVDO iScan VP30 Powered by ABT” , followed by "Powered by ABT”. This whole thing keeps repeating itself. I also can see that the red power LED blinks every few seconds. The unit is stuck/frozen as it will not react to front panel commands, remote commands, or switching on or off input sources. I replaced the remote batteries, to rule that out.

I have tried the hard reset (Press Menu+Quit at power up) and the checksum and init messages all went OK, but it didn't had any impact on my situation. The above mentioned messages re-appear after the reset is completed.

If anyone has any idea, please guide me what needs to be done to fix this problem.

I have a DVDO VP30. It has been working just fine for more than a year. It has firmware v1.14 installed on it.

Last night, my VP30 froze up and no longer works. When I plugged in the power, a message:
"DVDO iScan VP30
Powered by ABT”
appears on the FPD, immediately followed by:"Powered by ABT” . It stays like this for few seconds and then again I see "DVDO iScan VP30 Powered by ABT” , followed by "Powered by ABT”. This whole thing keeps repeating itself. I also can see that the red power LED blinks every few seconds. The unit is stuck/frozen as it will not react to front panel commands, remote commands, or switching on or off input sources. I replaced the remote batteries, to rule that out.

I have tried the hard reset (Press Menu+Quit at power up) and the checksum and init messages all went OK, but it didn't had any impact on my situation. The above mentioned messages re-appear after the reset is completed.

If anyone has any idea, please guide me what needs to be done to fix this problem.

Hi, it sounds like your AC adapter has crapped out - I had exactly the same problem (mine was caused by a power surge after a humungous electrical storm). Before doing anything else (i.e.sending the VP30 away to be fixed), try replacing the adapter - you could save yourself some unecessary expense and heartache!

You may have to look around though - the AC adapter that ships with it (6V 5Amp) is very hard to find - or at least it was for me in New Zealand. I had to end up getting one made for about NZD$75, but it was still a damn sight cheaper than sending it away. The good news is that the unit works perfectly now.

Hope this helps you.

Cheers.:)

I had the exact same thing happen to me 2 nights ago. I followed the details in this (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14091800&postcount=6596) post to fix it. The entire process took ~20 min and cost me $3.

Thanks for that info CRM-114, also you can ignore my PM.

richierich1968 and bobloblaw
Thanks for your replies. I wish I had read your repsonse earlier. I read one reply from Josh@DVDO, where he thought that may be the power-switch at the front panel may be stuck and suggested to remove and face-plate and unstuck it. I tried that, but it didn't help.

I understand that it'll be cheaper to fix my power-adapter than to find one.

Thanks.

Update 07/29/2008: Replaced the caps with 1000uF 16V caps. I tried 25V caps too, but they were simply too big (should I say fat, 13mm diameter instead of 10mm of original caps). Everything works fine now.
Cost of Caps: 50cents + shipping. DVDO told me that the power-adapter will cost $48+shipping($15) and its on back-order so it'll be few weeks before they'll ship it. Thanks to everyone for their help.

richierich1968 and bobloblaw
Thanks for your replies. I wish I had read your repsonse earlier. I read one reply from Josh@DVDO, where he thought that may be the power-switch at the front panel may be stuck and suggested to remove and face-plate and unstuck it.

I tried that, but it didn't help. However when I tried to put the face-plate back, the "Enter" button came off. Anyhow, I can use remote to do "Enter".

I understand that it'll be cheaper to fix my power-adapter than to find one.

Thanks.

I wish I had read CRM-114's post earlier also - I could have saved myself $70, however the switch manufacturer that made the replacement for me said the original was cheap crap and could not handle power spikes well.

Glad I could be of assistance somewhat - I have always found answers to my questions and problems here, so it is nice to be able to help someone else out!

Good luck and let us know how you get on.

Cheers,
Richard;)

Hello All,

I also had a problem with the supply for my VP30. Mine is around two years old. The problem showed up when I unplugged my system to move it to a different location. I got the repeating message on the display. I unplugged the DC from the back of the VP30, waited a few secionds, then replugged. Nothing. Dark display. No response to the remote or front panel buttons.
Then I remembered reading about a similar scenario and I found CRM-114's post about the repair. It also worked for me. Two new caps for $1 from the local electronics hobby store and I'm back in business. It's really pretty easy.
This forum keeps amazing me with all the useful info and the willingness to share that knowledge with others. Thanks to CRM-114 and everyone else for this valuable info.

JFW

(Major lurker, occasional contributor)

Hi all. I've been reading these forums for a long time but don't feel that I'm knowledgeable about the certain areas to contribute. I've recently purchased a VP30 with the 102D card and is quite happy with it. However, with the news of the new Edge coming - with a lot of the features of the VP50Pro, I should have waited. I was looking into getting a Algolith Flea or the like to address the mosquito noise from my HD cable box. Seeing that the Edge already comes with the mosquito noise reduction, I'm tempted to sell the setup. I'd wish that DVDO would come up with a Flea-like product for all of us who want the noise reduction but can't afford the VP50Pro. I wonder if DVDO will offer an "upgrade" type of program when the Edge comes out - I hope so. Does anyone know if the Precision Deinterlacing used in the VP50/Pro and Edge is the same as that of the 102D?

Thanks.

Hi Rocket,

Yes, the deinterlacing algorithms in the ABT102D are the same as those used in the VP50/VP50pro and EDGE. The only difference is that the ABT102D can only handle SD resolutions (480i/576i).

I know what you mean regarding the feature set of the EDGE. It is extremely good for the price point. I posted a comment in the EDGE thread about the DVDO's trade-in program. With any luck you'll be able to trade your VP30 straight up for the EDGE.

Bobloblaw,

Thanks for information and comments. I am quite happy with the VP30 setup and I don't have a 1080p display. But it seems like the new Edge will be able run circles around the VP30/20 with the 102D cards, at a much lower price point. I've been reading the posts on the Edge thread, and know that the unit is not for everyone, for for my intents and purposes everything about it is positive. I hope that there will be some sort of "trade in" program that you've alluded to on the other thread.

Does anyone know or have compared the mosquito noise reduction in the VP50Pro to that of the late Algolith Flea? I'd wish DVDO would offer a stand alone unit for those of us who have the VP20/30/50 so we can have that feature.

Rocket

I have a DVDO VP30. It has been working just fine for more than a year. It has firmware v1.14 installed on it.

Last night, my VP30 froze up and no longer works. When I plugged in the power, a message:
"DVDO iScan VP30
Powered by ABT”
appears on the FPD, immediately followed by:"Powered by ABT” . It stays like this for few seconds and then again I see "DVDO iScan VP30 Powered by ABT” , followed by "Powered by ABT”. This whole thing keeps repeating itself. I also can see that the red power LED blinks every few seconds. The unit is stuck/frozen as it will not react to front panel commands, remote commands, or switching on or off input sources. I replaced the remote batteries, to rule that out.

I have tried the hard reset (Press Menu+Quit at power up) and the checksum and init messages all went OK, but it didn't had any impact on my situation. The above mentioned messages re-appear after the reset is completed.

If anyone has any idea, please guide me what needs to be done to fix this problem.

I, and others, have had a similar situation. It turned out to be the external power brick, which I believe is 6v 5ah (a bit unusual). The capacitors had swelled (failed after less than a year). After failing to find an aftermarket replacement, I purchased a new one from ABT for $49 plus shipping. The one they sent was larger (appearing to be a more robust unit that they should have included in the first place). I don't know for sure if that is your problem, but it is a possibility worth investigating...

Bobloblaw,

Thanks for information and comments. I am quite happy with the VP30 setup and I don't have a 1080p display. But it seems like the new Edge will be able run circles around the VP30/20 with the 102D cards, at a much lower price point. I've been reading the posts on the Edge thread, and know that the unit is not for everyone, for for my intents and purposes everything about it is positive. I hope that there will be some sort of "trade in" program that you've alluded to on the other thread.

Does anyone know or have compared the mosquito noise reduction in the VP50Pro to that of the late Algolith Flea? I'd wish DVDO would offer a stand alone unit for those of us who have the VP20/30/50 so we can have that feature.

Rocket

Unless you need the SDI input, which from what I understand the Edge won't have... the VP30 is still a very good VP and with the intro of the Edge, I can forsee prices on used units drop even further. A used VP30 can be a fantastic deal!

Does anyone know or have compared the mosquito noise reduction in the VP50Pro to that of the late Algolith Flea? I'd wish DVDO would offer a stand alone unit for those of us who have the VP20/30/50 so we can have that feature.

From what I understand, the Flea is better, but that is based purely on hearsay. I think I remember other people (Ofer?) saying they were "different," but I'm not sure what that means. I know aaronwt uses the Flea WITH the Pro, so maybe he can comment on their performance.

The MNR reduction of the FLEA is -from my point of view- better than the same function in the VP50Pro. Less destructive and finer adjustment. But having one more device in the chain can also lead to more problems (for example the passing of btb only with YCbCr 4:2:2, expanding to PC level with RGB, etc.). We should also keep in mind that the FLEA (and Mosquito as well) is designed for DCT material (MPEG2) whereas the VP50Pro is -referring to this- more flexible. But overall I'm very satisfied with the FLEA in conjunction with the VP50Pro.

Denis

Thanks for the information guys. Here I am thinking that it'll be great to get MNR on my VP30, while there are those with the FLEA and VP50Pro chained. Is there a point where there is too much MNR and you get softening of the picture?

Pine2, if your unit is less than a year old, should the power supply still be under warranty? If you know that it's the caps that failed, it's a pretty simple repair by swapping them with better ones from your local Rat Shack or Digikey/Mouser. I got my VP30 several months ago and the power supply is pretty big. I'll check on the inscriptions on the supply when I get home tonight and see if we got the same one.

Thanks for the information guys. Here I am thinking that it'll be great to get MNR on my VP30, while there are those with the FLEA and VP50Pro chained. Is there a point where there is too much MNR and you get softening of the picture?

Pine2, if your unit is less than a year old, should the power supply still be under warranty? If you know that it's the caps that failed, it's a pretty simple repair by swapping them with better ones from your local Rat Shack or Digikey/Mouser. I got my VP30 several months ago and the power supply is pretty big. I'll check on the inscriptions on the supply when I get home tonight and see if we got the same one.

I bought the HDMI Flea instead of upgrading to the Pro as well since the reviews on the noise reduction were favorable. I have my Flea's 2D cranked up to 6 since I tend to watch mainly anime on DVD but most of the other settings are set much lower than the "recommended" specs listed in the book. The 3D doesn't seem to have much of an effect on most of the DVDs I watch. I am not fond of their detail enhancement. Any amount of noise reduction will have a small negative effect on the image and the amount of processing should be adjusted to your source. Cable will most likely need higher settings compared to a Blu-ray disc where I skip the Flea due to HDMI audio issues.

My power supply died after the one year point and finding a replacement with that much amperage is indeed difficult. I ended up buying one that had a adjustable voltage online for about $60 which works fine, but I doubt any of the chain retailers will have something that will have enough power in them.

My VP30 was at firmware 1.05 and I tried the upgrade to 1.14 last night. After hours of varying attempts with different cables, different Pcs, repeated downloads and installs of the tera term software and .abt file still no luck. Unfortunately, after some 20+ tries including wait times of up to 2 hours, nothing happened until I finally made a mistake and left the handshaking at "xon/xoff" then it downloaded very quickly and about 5 seconds into it the update on the VP30 crashed with an error and reset but now says it has no valid firmware. The problem up to then had always been that it would never respond to the software loading on the VP30 even though it progressed to about 1025 bytes on the PC side. It just sat there without ever showing "loading" on the VP30 side. Now it only reboots and goes to the load screen but I still can't get it to progress past about 1025 bytes. I have changed com ports, PCs etc. to no avail. Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is all done under xp pro ( i tried both sp1 and sp2 versions). I even tried the DVDO utility referenced here. It would recognize the DVDO but seemed to have trouble getting any responses back from the VP30. I tried both the serial and usb to serial methods. I would say that nothing was getting through but it seems to have finally started to load something when the handshaking was wrong, unfortunately. Suggestions? or Sources for help?

My VP30 was at firmware 1.05 and I tried the upgrade to 1.14 last night. After hours of varying attempts with different cables, different Pcs, repeated downloads and installs of the tera term software and .abt file still no luck. Unfortunately, after some 20+ tries including wait times of up to 2 hours, nothing happened until I finally made a mistake and left the handshaking at "xon/xoff" then it downloaded very quickly and about 5 seconds into it the update on the VP30 crashed with an error and reset but now says it has no valid firmware. The problem up to then had always been that it would never respond to the software loading on the VP30 even though it progressed to about 1025 bytes on the PC side. It just sat there without ever showing "loading" on the VP30 side. Now it only reboots and goes to the load screen but I still can't get it to progress past about 1025 bytes. I have changed com ports, PCs etc. to no avail. Any help would be greatly appreciated. This is all done under xp pro ( i tried both sp1 and sp2 versions). I even tried the DVDO utility referenced here. It would recognize the DVDO but seemed to have trouble getting any responses back from the VP30. I tried both the serial and usb to serial methods. I would say that nothing was getting through but it seems to have finally started to load something when the handshaking was wrong, unfortunately. Suggestions? or Sources for help?


Hi Zalirb,

I'm by no means an expert (unlike the rest of the guys here), but I had the same issues as you did earlier this year when I tried to upgrade my VP30. I, like you, tried all sorts of combinations - cables, anti-virus on and off, firewalls on and off, USB cable, serial cable, USB to serial cable, etc, etc, etc...

It eventually turned out that Windows had somehow reinstalled the FTDI USB-to-serial drivers (even though I had used the same computer previously and uninstalled them). I uninstalled them (again) and it worked like a charm. Check out the DVDO website here for more info: http://www.anchorbaytech.com/support/software_downloads/vp.php. This applies only if you are using the USB-to-serial cable.

It had me ready to throw my laptop, cables, and VP30 out the window - it took me a good 3 days to eventually get to the bottom of it. I do not know how or why Windows reinstalled the drivers, but it did (as I said in another post: Never underestimate the power of Windows - it is greater than "The Force"!).

Try it and see how you go. Some of the other guys here will be able to offer a lot more comprehensive troubleshooting for you, but seeing as how your problem was similar to mine, I thought I would offer this bit of advice first. Let us know how you go.

Cheers,
Richard.

Does the passthrough function work with the SDI input?

Does the passthrough function work with the SDI input?

From the DVDO website "The new Passthrough mode allows digital and analog signals to be passed through without any deinterlacing or scaling. Passthrough mode allows an HDMI input signal to be passed through to the HDMI output and an analog input, on the BNC input, to be passed through to the BNC output."

Why would you want to passthrough SDI?

Why would you want to passthrough SDI?

Well, I wanted to daisy chain two processors, and since my VP30 has the SDI input fitted then I could use my SDI DVD player with this set-up.

Well, I wanted to daisy chain two processors, and since my VP30 has the SDI input fitted then I could use my SDI DVD player with this set-up.

Interesting idea. So the plan was SDI into the VP30, then presumably HDMI out to your second processor where the deinterlacing/scaling would take place? Essentially using the VP30 as an SDI-to-HDMI converter, but still leaving the signal 480i/576i at the VP30 output?

Interesting idea. So the plan was SDI into the VP30, then presumably HDMI out to your second processor where the deinterlacing/scaling would take place? Essentially using the VP30 as an SDI-to-HDMI converter, but still leaving the signal 480i/576i at the VP30 output?

Yes, that was the idea. But it seems it's not possible....

Did I miss something too obvious? I was looking at page 180 plus yesterday.I don't see the VP30 listed anywhere. I see two for VP50 though.
Anyone know?

Thanks,
Phil

Here it is

anybody that's looking to buy a dvdo product. i've got a crystalimage vs4.0 that ill sell that will get you a pretty good discount on their products

Hello,

my vp30 is now 6 months old, everything worked fine but now I have a serious problem.

Please take a look at that screenshot:

http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02756kt1.jpg

Do you see those lines on the guys mouth and in the background?

When I set the vp30 on passthrough it looks like it should:

http://img299.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc02757wa3.jpg

I'm getting those weird anomalies now all the time, tried a hard reset but whithout sucess.

Any Ideas? Is my vp30 defect?

Ok, it seems to happen on redish and blueish colors. When I turn Saturation all the way down till the picture is just black and white everything is ok.

Yeah, probably defective. You should e-mail those pictures to ABT technical support. At least you're still under warranty!

my vp30 is now 6 months old, everything worked fine but now I have a serious problem... [snip] When I set the vp30 on passthrough it looks like it should...

which firmware are you running? - i had a similarly unusual color artifact issue (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13082437&highlight=banding#post13082437) with 1.14 that went away if i either used passthrough (which defeats the point of having the VP30 unless you just want a really expensive video switcher) or if i reverted to 1.10 (which works ok but now you no longer have the passthrough option or certain other controls such as per-color gamma).

I'm running 1.14, where can I download 1.10?

But I think the unit is defective because everything was OK until now. Contacting support now...

I'm running 1.14, where can I download 1.10?

But I think the unit is defective because everything was OK until now. Contacting support now...
dvdo support emailed me 1.10 after i specifically requested it from them. it would not have been part of their normal troubleshooting methodology i'm pretty sure.

not that he wanted to be quoted on this, but i did contact dale adams about my issue outside the normal DVDO support channels and he allowed as how there could be a *possibility* that some units will show issues like this after the firmware upgrade and some will not. so by all means proceed with dvdo support.

Hi ,I just picked up a used Vp-30 and i'm having trouble getting a picture through the HDMI cable to my projector.All connections seem to be in their right place:I'm running an HDMI cable out from my Sony cv-995 400 disc dvd player to HDMI #1 in on the VP-30,then from the out to my projector (a samsung 710 ae that yes--works).This isn't a cable problem as i tried both component and HDMI from just the dvd player right to the projector with no problems.It must be something i'm missing in the setup menu on the VP-30which has version 1.14 software installed and a 102 card as well in case that info is important.All i'm getting is an all black pictue when a movie is playing but the setup menu can be displayed no problem.Any help here would be appreciated.Thanks.

Hi ,I just picked up a used Vp-30 and i'm having trouble getting a picture through the HDMI cable to my projector.All connections seem to be in their right place:I'm running an HDMI cable out from my Sony cv-995 400 disc dvd player to HDMI #1 in on the VP-30,then from the out to my projector (a samsung 710 ae that yes--works).This isn't a cable problem as i tried both component and HDMI from just the dvd player right to the projector with no problems.It must be something i'm missing in the setup menu on the VP-30which has version 1.14 software installed and a 102 card as well in case that info is important.All i'm getting is an all black pictue when a movie is playing but the setup menu can be displayed no problem.Any help here would be appreciated.Thanks.
well if it's a new machine (at least new to you) and you haven't spent hours configuring it, you could (and probably should) begin by trying some of the various resets described earlier in this thread: see
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=7651225#post7651225

Ok they changed the board on my VP30 and now the vertical bars are gone. BUT I'm now also expierencing that weird color artifact issue (red and blue moving blotches mostly in dark areas).

Requested 1.10 from the support a week ago but haven't gotten any answer yet...does anyone here have that firmware and could please mail it to me?

My email is: Talyn@weibsvolk.org

Ok they changed the board on my VP30 and now the vertical bars are gone. BUT I'm now also expierencing that weird color artifact issue (red and blue moving blotches mostly in dark areas).

Requested 1.10 from the support a week ago but haven't gotten any answer yet...does anyone here have that firmware and could please mail it to me?

My email is: Talyn@weibsvolk.org

On it's way to you.

Jeff

Thanks a lot!

My VP30 is having some pretty severe issues. Basically, it just turns on and off, on and off, over and over. Never really gets to displaying a picture, the only signs of life are the "Powered by ABT" startup screen, then a flash of red from the power LED, back to power down, rinse and repeat.

Any ideas what this could be? Of course I tried pulling the power, but a hard reset isn't possible (it never makes it that far to respond to the remote.) Any help?

My VP30 is having some pretty severe issues. Basically, it just turns on and off, on and off, over and over. Never really gets to displaying a picture, the only signs of life are the "Powered by ABT" startup screen, then a flash of red from the power LED, back to power down, rinse and repeat.

Any ideas what this could be? Of course I tried pulling the power, but a hard reset isn't possible (it never makes it that far to respond to the remote.) Any help?I had some issues like that and I had my power cord replaced not just the cord but that power pack looking thing... sorry don't know what that is called and every thing was back working... best of luck... :)

Steve

I'm having the same problem. Sounds like it may be a bad power supply.

Now my whole system is down.

Guess I'll call tomorrow to find out what to do.

The power supply issues are due to failing capacitors. Following this link (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14091800&postcount=6596) to find how to replace them. The process only takes about 15 minutes.

Yep, opened it up and the caps were puffy. One measured about 50uF the other about 20 (they should be around 1000uF).

I'm off to find the caps - will report back later.

Thanks!

Ah, thank you all. I luckily have two VP30s for different systems, swapping out the units showed that the power supply was the issue. Ordered a new one from Anchor Bay, $54 shipped is a cheap repair IMHO ;)

Replaced the caps. Everything working again.

Like someone else did, I couldn't find 1000uF/16V so I used 1000uF/25V. They are the same height but larger in diameter. A little tight but fit OK. They are also rated 105 degrees C - like the originals. I normally don't worry too much about the temp rating but in this case it could be significant.

Thanks for the help!

Hello!

Am I the only one that has some digital audio problems with the VP30?

My setup:

- Pioneer DVR-550HX-S player/recorder (video HDMI connection to the VP30and digital coax audio connection to the VP30)
- VP30 with 1.14 firmware (video HDMI connection to the VSX-1017AV and digital optical audio connection to VSX-1017AV)
- Pionner VSX-1017AV amplifier (video HDMI connection from VP30 and digital optical audio connection from VP30/ video HDMI connection to PDP-427XD)
- Pioneer PDP-427XD plasma screen

My problem :
- no sound on the digital optical or coax output of VP30 ?? Configuration seems correct.
- Direct connection between DVR-550HX digital audio output and VSX-1017AV digital audio input run fine
- Why, I have not optical digital output on VP30 (no light on fiber !)

Thankfull for any input!

Am I missing something? It seems like all your components support HDMI, why bother with the optical audio cabling?

In order to use the optical input with HDMI video, you need to assign the audio input via the "Input Adjust/Audio Input" menu. (pg 15 of the manual)

Right, but I want to use my soundsystem 5.1 managed by my Pionner VSX-1017AV ampli !
I must link DVDO optical or coaxial digital output with Pioneer optical or coaxial digital input.

I use my DVDO's optical in for easy audio device input selection with the Input Adjust>Audio Input toggle. This way I can select between my DVR or DVD player audio while browsing and posting instead of using the PC audio in.

My older Pioneer 53 had a button which made it easy to use separate video and audio signals so I would string the optical cables into the receiver, but the newer Elites don't have this function as far as I can tell and going to the Pio's setup is a pain and isn't an supered OST like the DVDO's

Hi,

I own VP30 with ABT102 - FW 1.14.

When I first installed it everything worked fine.

About several days ago I started to get a smeared picture.

I disconnected everything but the Plasma (Pioneer 5090) and the same happen with the test pattern (geometric).
As you can see in the picture there is a shift in position between the blue, grey and white borders. Other than that the picture (white frames) is sharp and well aligned.

I am using the Pioneer at the native 1920X1080 resolution with HDMI connection. But the same happens when I connect the VP30 to older Pioneer Plasma with component in a lower resolution.

When I connect a DVD (OPPO 983H) I can only get good picture when the input format is 1080P .

Please advise

Yossia

I suggest contacting DVDOs tech support for a solution

The advice I got is:
Check with another PS and Hard Reset.

I performed both but no luck.

I've owned the VP30/ABT102 since they were released and continue to enjoy the picture quality, especially since I recently paired them with an OPPO 980H. I'm curious if there are any owner's in a similar situation who are considering a move to DVDO's new EDGE processor? I realize that the VP30 offers more advanced configuration options, but I don't own a display which requires any unique timings or adjustments, so most of the those features I don't use.

I'm trying to figure out if a switch is worth it. I'm very satisfied with the picture quality I'm getting right now. Could just be the itch of an upgrade bug...

I've owned the VP30/ABT102 since they were released and continue to enjoy the picture quality, especially since I recently paired them with an OPPO 980H. I'm curious if there are any owner's in a similar situation who are considering a move to DVDO's new EDGE processor? I realize that the VP30 offers more advanced configuration options, but I don't own a display which requires any unique timings or adjustments, so most of the those features I don't use.

I'm trying to figure out if a switch is worth it. I'm very satisfied with the picture quality I'm getting right now. Could just be the itch of an upgrade bug...
While It is clear the VP30/ABT102 combo is an excellent VP for SD DVD, The Edge will aid in the ability to further Enhance the picture quality especialy for Cable/Sat set top box's . Bringing to the table Fine detail enhancement, Edge enhancement and Mosquito noise reduction..

Also the Edge is able to Apply 1080i Deinterlacing correctly where the VP30/ABT102 cannot...The VP30 is HDMI 1.1 the Edge is HDMI 1.3 so it "should" allow for passing Bitstreamed HD codects to A compatable sound Processor....

While It is clear the VP30/ABT102 combo is an excellent VP for SD DVD, The Edge will aid in the ability to further Enhance the picture quality especialy for Cable/Sat set top box's . Bringing to the table Fine detail enhancement, Edge enhancement and Mosquito noise reduction..

This is my main reason for considering the EDGE. I hardly ever watch anything on cable that isn't HD, but the detail/edge enhancement and mosquito noise reduction features I'd like to see in action.

Also the Edge is able to Apply 1080i Deinterlacing correctly where the VP30/ABT102 cannot...The VP30 is HDMI 1.1 the Edge is HDMI 1.3 so it "should" allow for passing Bitstreamed HD codecs to a compatible sound Processor....

The HDMI 1.1 vs. HDMI 1.3 thing doesn't really concern me too much. I'm very happy with my current processor and don't intend to upgrade it. I'll be purchasing a Bluray player that handles all the processing internally and outputs via 7.1 analog (OPPO BDP-83).

1080i deinterlacing is an attractive feature.

FWIW I had owned A VP30/ABT102 for over A year, Very good VP for scaling 576i/480i SD source, But I ended up with the VP50pro in the end....

Would someone be willing to email me their "collection" of firmware for the VP30? I just bought a used one and I'm enjoying and getting used to it, but I'd like to compare some of things that have gotten better and gotten worse between the past few firmware versions.

I have 1.10 and 1.14, but I'm looking for anything in between the two.

Thanks for any help!

-Matt

I recently had the power supply on my VP30 ‘go’. The symptoms are as often described on this forum, the ABT greeting screen keeps cycling but the unit fails to fully turn on.
[...]
The original caps were 1000uf at 10 volts. I replaced them with 1000uf at 20 volts for added safety, with a slightly larger diameter case. This was no trouble, but space is counted in the case, so stay reasonable with the values of replacements – height rather than diameter is critical.
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Hope this helps someone. Sure helped me, few remarks:
* Original cap's where 1000uF/16V 20x10mm in my power supply
* Could not find same size cap's and fitting bigger ones did not succeed (no room)
* So I simply soldered in 1 (one) 1000uF/35V cap

The idea was that cap's will lose a lot of capacity during lifespan, so maybe one new 1000uF cap should do the trick.

It seems to work nicely, but it could be that flashing FW or so would be too much. Thanks for your nice description CRM-114!

I also have a VP30 with ABT102 and FW v1.14 and I'm having a different problem than last described here.

Sometimes the VP30 passes a full green screen to my projector when receiving source from my TiVo Series 3 and its HDMI port. THis doesn't happen when using the component inputs on the VP30.

I suspect this has something to do with HDCP and I've tried on and off but the same thing happens. When I unplug the VP30 and wait a minute before plugging it back in, the TiVo passes through the VP30 perfectly via HDMI.

My VP30 is NOT set for passthrough on the TiVo input, as I need to adjust that source more than any other.

Any ideas on what might be causing me to have to reset my VP30 to watch HDMI Tivo?

Would someone be willing to email me their "collection" of firmware for the VP30? I just bought a used one and I'm enjoying and getting used to it, but I'd like to compare some of things that have gotten better and gotten worse between the past few firmware versions.

I have 1.10 and 1.14, but I'm looking for anything in between the two.

Thanks for any help!

-Matt

Matt
You have a pm
Smiffy

My VP30 is acting up very tired of pulling the power cord to jump start this thing... I looked into opening the power supply and found some rust looking color on one of the caps and both of them are bulging. Checked inside of the case closest to the rust colored cap and I can see some condensation. The power supply has strong odor to it also... But the funny thing is it still lights up green on the power supply and the VP30 does not hold its power. Just go's on and off.

I'll see what I can do to change this crazy thing in the morning.. I'll have to pick up some supplies from the R Shack and locate the caps if they don't have any...

Steve

The power supply issues are due to failing capacitors. Following this link (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14091800&postcount=6596) to find how to replace them. The process only takes about 15 minutes.

bobloblaw, thank you so much for that link... I'm up and running again.. :D and to all of you who have listed your challenges with this crazy processor and did your own DIY FIX.... :) I'm going to put some chips aside for an EDGE I don't know if you need to do firmware upgrades with it or not but I am tired of jump starting this thing... no need for it should be stable...

edit: My original caps where 1000uf 16v I replaced them with (1) 1000uf 35v cap...

Steve

FYI- the Edge has no external power brick and runs very cool. Also firmware upgrades are simple (no serial connection needed- just straight USB) and take about 20 seconds. Plus it's pretty tough to leave it in an unusable state- if it fails it has a basic firmware image it falls back to.

I unplugged my VP30 for awhile to test the Edge and I have to say the Edge is making me forget about the VP30. There are a few things a VP30 will do that the Edge will not (two that spring to mind for me personally are gamma and SDI), but the Edge has "real" HD deinterlacing (not just bob) and it does just about everything else the VP30 did, so it's just vastly better.

As displays have gotten better, the niche occupied by the VP30 has really shrunk to almost nothing: by now you should have either traded it in to DVDO for a reduced price on the VP50pro or you should have sold it on eBay and gotten an Edge.

I love my VP30, make no mistake, and it has occupied a proud place in the history of consumer-oriented video processors. But it's day is done. If my power supply ever goes out, I would keep my soldering gun in the drawer and just send the VP30 off to that great e-waste recycling bin in the sky.

I know thats right...:) I'll put some chips aside for the Edge.. to tell you the truth I just want my Laserdisc and SD to look nice.. Can't seem to let my LD"s go.

Steve

All good points stretch, I'm of a similar opinion. Now if I can just get a good price for my VP30...

My unit started the constant reboot process today. Shows powered by ABT then goes to DVDO ICSAN VP30 and flips back again to powered by ABT and never stops. This is my second unit. I searched but didn't see anything on this exact issue.

My unit started the constant reboot process today. Shows powered by ABT then goes to DVDO ICSAN VP30 and flips back again to powered by ABT and never stops. This is my second unit. I searched but didn't see anything on this exact issue.

This is a known issue with the power supply caps. For more details, follow this link (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14091800&postcount=6596).

This has been covered as recently as a few posts ago. The caps in the power brick go bad and cause this exact problem. I and many others have repaired our power supplies. Worst case, IIRC, you could get a new one from DVDO for about $50.

John

I had the power adapter issue in July and replaced the caps and everything has been working fine till this morning.

When I attach power adapter to the mains then the green led on power adapter comes on, but as soon as I connect VP30, the green led on power-adapter turns itself off. The led on the front-panel of VP30 is orange/yellow (instead of blue or red) and blinking randomly and nothing shows up on the front-panel display.

The caps in power-adapter look ok and are not busted/leaking. I'll check the voltage and current later today, but the symptoms are much different then the last time. That time, I would atleast see something on FPD like "Powered by ABT" and then "DVDO ICSAN VP30"

Any suggestions?

Hi.I'm considering adding a Panasonic BD-35 blu-ray player to my setup.I'll be running it through my Iscan VP-30 to my Samsung 710AE (720P) PJ.Could anyone out there possibly fast track me as to any changes i would have to make (if any at all) to the VP-30's settings etc?Hopefully it will all be tied together with HDMI cables and no handshake issues.Does anybody else out there have a similar setup?

Hi.I'm considering adding a Panasonic BD-35 blu-ray player to my setup.I'll be running it through my Iscan VP-30 to my Samsung 710AE (720P) PJ.Could anyone out there possibly fast track me as to any changes i would have to make (if any at all) to the VP-30's settings etc?Hopefully it will all be tied together with HDMI cables and no handshake issues.Does anybody else out there have a similar setup?

What output format are you planning to set in the BD-35? The VP30 does not have the capability to process a 1080p input signal, only to pass it through.

What output format are you planning to set in the BD-35? The VP30 does not have the capability to process a 1080p input signal, only to pass it through.
Since it can't process the 1080p signal,i guess 1080i or should it be 720p since the PJ is 720p?That said,will having the VP-30 in the chain do much for the picture quality at all?Alot of people say that even though your projector is only 720p you should still notice the difference between standard DVD and BLURAY whether the VP-30 is in the chain or not.Any thoughts and thanks for your input?

it can't process 1080p at all, and it can't process 1080i *well* - it's 1080i deinterlacing is essentially straight "bob" deinterlacing. so it might be better to set the BD player to 720p.

How does the vp30 compare to the key digital 4x1?

it can't process 1080p at all, and it can't process 1080i *well* - it's 1080i deinterlacing is essentially straight "bob" deinterlacing. so it might be better to set the BD player to 720p.
Thanks Stretch,i'll try 720P and hope for the best.Now that brings me to similar question to the one above:What happens to all that extra picture quality contained on that bluray disc when it's (for lack of a better term) depleted down to 720p when it comes out of the bluray player,passes through the VP-30,and on to the PJ? Am i basicly looking at a picture a little better than standard DVD (720p vs 480p)but not the "knock your socks off"quality of 1080p?I kinda wonder if adding SDI to my VP-30 and adding a SDI modded standard DVD player to my system would give me the same picture?

Thanks Stretch,i'll try 720P and hope for the best.Now that brings me to similar question to the one above:What happens to all that extra picture quality contained on that bluray disc when it's (for lack of a better term) depleted down to 720p when it comes out of the bluray player,passes through the VP-30,and on to the PJ? Am i basicly looking at a picture a little better than standard DVD (720p vs 480p)but not the "knock your socks off"quality of 1080p?I kinda wonder if adding SDI to my VP-30 and adding a SDI modded standard DVD player to my system would give me the same picture?

A 1080p bluray signal down converted to 720p should still look better than DVD upconverted to 720p, assuming the down conversion in the bluray player is decent. You may want to jump over to the BD35 forum to see what owner's think about its 720p output. I suspect that you will not be disappointed.

A 1080p bluray signal down converted to 720p should still look better than DVD upconverted to 720p, assuming the down conversion in the bluray player is decent. You may want to jump over to the BD35 forum to see what owner's think about its 720p output. I suspect that you will not be disappointed.
Thanks again Bobloblaw,i'll look there.

I need some help guys. I need to know if the VP30 will do what I need it to.

I need the following outcomes:

1.) Upscale all my old video game consoles to 1080p.

2.) Upscale 720p PS3 games to 1080p and allowing me to adjust color, sharpness and contrast via the vp30. (in game mode)

3.) Pass through my Xbox 360's 1080p but allowing me to adjust color, sharpness and contrast via the vp30. (in game mode)

4.) Still allow my PS3 to play Blu-Rays in 1080/24.

I was going to get the edge but was told it does not allow progressive images to be sharpened as the vp30 does. That's important to me because when I run my Samsung LCD in PC mode (for gaming) it has a very soft image. In the case of the Xbox 360, the VP would just need to provide the picture adjustments Samsung denies me.

Thanks for any help guys.

Another question guys,my VP-30 has the ABT102 card installed so is there still room for the SDI card as well inside?Thanks

Is the vp30 + abt102 capable of eliminating (well, almost - 1 frame is alright) input lag? Ive been searching for answers in the forum and im getting more and more confused.

Thing is, i just wanna play any 360/ps3 game (res doesnt matter, but 1080p/i would be the best) without an amazing 50-70 ms of input lag. Thats all i want to know.

Thanks in advance.

Another question guys,my VP-30 has the ABT102 card installed so is there still room for the SDI card as well inside?Thanks
Yes- many have both. I do, for instance. Installed it myself. Piece of cake.

Is the vp30 + abt102 capable of eliminating (well, almost - 1 frame is alright) input lag? Ive been searching for answers in the forum and im getting more and more confused.

Thing is, i just wanna play any 360/ps3 game (res doesnt matter, but 1080p/i would be the best) without an amazing 50-70 ms of input lag. Thats all i want to know.

Thanks in advance.

When operating in Game Mode, the VP30/ABT102 combo (according to the first post in this thread) has "sub-1 frame delay/2 frame delay with Edge adaptive processing"

Can anyone tell me if the VP30 allows adjust of sharpness, color, contrast, etc when you send it a 1080p signal? I've read that it does a pass through for 1080p, but I want to know if I can adjust the picture. Same for 720p please.

This would be in game mode.

When operating in Game Mode, the VP30/ABT102 combo (according to the first post in this thread) has "sub-1 frame delay/2 frame delay with Edge adaptive processing"



Okay, not to be rude, but what in Gods name does that mean? You lag 1 to 2 frames? >_>

Slightly less than one frame. What, doesn't that mean there is still an extremely small amount of lag to an extent. Not that it matters anyways, since less than 1 frame should be alright. o_o Don't see how slightly less than that is possible. o_o;;


Another thing I never got I look on the website and it says ABT102, yet I don't see an ABT102D chip, or does that not matter? o_o or does D just stand for deinterlace. o.O;;

Okay, not to be rude, but what in Gods name does that mean? You lag 1 to 2 frames? >_>
Gamemode 1 has a sub-1-frame delay (6ms). Gamemode 2 has a 2-frame delay.

Gamemode 1 has a sub-1-frame delay (6ms). Gamemode 2 has a 2-frame delay.

Ah thank you, so I see there is still a 6 milisecond delay at the best setting then.

Sorry to ask this here but I seem to get no answer to this in the other thread focused on lag. I know DLP's have horrid lag when it comes ot games even games in HD level, but I'd like to know if the iScan VP30 + ABT102D combo would eliminate such lag in any of the DLP's?


That has been bugging me for ever I haven't really seen a CLEAR answer for that one. I jsut hear DLP's are bad for gamers, but no tests with the DLP's themselves. -_-;; I guess its understandable since you want to go for the best technology available for your games, but I just want to know that. When I read all the ups for DLP's they seemed like a gamers dream till I heard the negative issue when it comes to them (lag).


I'm sorry for bringing that up but I'd like things to be cleared up about this for once. ._.;; I just get the feeling people avoid the game lag thread, since its been going o nfor 21 pages and it seems to repeat itself from what it read but it didn't answer my specific question. I even reread it to go over it and see. It says there is a 1/4th of a second in delay, but it never said if the iScan or any upscaler would help to decrease the lag to a similar amount. o_o;;

I know DLP's have horrid lag when it comes ot games even games in HD level, but I'd like to know if the iScan VP30 + ABT102D combo would eliminate such lag in any of the DLP's?
it depends if the delay occurs in the processing stage of the projecting stage. I have no DLP beamer so I don't know. I know that I friend of mine is using an Optoma DLP for HD 360 gaming is happy with it (so any delay can't be too serious).

If the delay is caused by the processing of 480i or 1080i material, then you can bypass it by using an external videoprocessor. If there's a general delay (even to VGA and progressive HDMI signals) then you won't be able bypass.

It would be a first time though that I heard of a general problem with DLP beamers.

Power brick is acting up again... I think. I checked the cap I had replaced them both some time ago and added one cap was working just fine and now my picture go's away and no lights on the display at all but my power light is just fine green lights are on and bright as well as the blue signal light on the VP30... I'm guessing it's time to upgrade to the edge now but I hate to shell out more money if it's something small to fix... DAMN. :confused: now

Steve

Hi, all,

Let me apologize in advance. This is actually a question for my VP20 but that forum is kinda dead so I am posting here, hoping someone can shed light on my problem.

I recently brought a VP20 with ABT102 card on Ebay. Everything seems fine except that the Hue adjustment option is grey out. Also, there is no option to turn on advance user mode or the Y/C delay. The firmware version is 1.03 (latest for VP20). I tried hard re-set to no avail. Can someone tell me if there is a problem with my unit?

Thanks in advance.

Just wanted to give Ken over at ANCHOR BAY Tech Support a big Thank You for taking care of my issues with my VP30. :) now it's time to upgrade to the EDGE....

Steve

I'm wondering if DVDO can be setup to output 1080i from the component and 720p from the HDMI. I know that it can't be done simultaneously, but can it be easily switched? In other words, is there a memory for each output?

I have a 1080i RPTV and a 720p projector in the same system.

I use a PS3 for Blu Ray & Games, a Dish 722 & standard dvd player. Right now they are all switched through an Onkyo 805 w/ component video, then the output is split to the two component inputs.

Also...just reading through some of the posts, it seems as though there have been a lot of problems with this unit. Can anyone comment on the reliability?

Thanks!

Milliecurie999: Options vary by input signal type and resolution. If an option does not apply to the signal type, it is greyed out.

Gary: I believe using output display profiles (if they exist in the vp30) you can easily switch in exactly the way you want.

Milliecurie999: Options vary by input signal type and resolution. If an option does not apply to the signal type, it is greyed out.

Gary: I believe using output display profiles (if they exist in the vp30) you can easily switch in exactly the way you want.

IIRC, Hue only applies to S-Video and Composite video input signals and there is no advanced mode on the VP20.

Barry is right, Display Profiles will work for your application and then you can use the discrete IR codes to switch between them (once defined)

My power supply is defective as well.
Removed the two caps, I have found 3x the same on a old mainboard.
But can't get them of with the 25w iron. :rolleyes:

IIRC, Hue only applies to S-Video and Composite video input signals and there is no advanced mode on the VP20.

Barry is right, Display Profiles will work for your application and then you can use the discrete IR codes to switch between them (once defined)

Thank you for your clarification. I feel much better about the purchase now. Cheers...:D

Thought I post this here as this concerns HDMI problems some might have encountered and were looking for a solution for on the internet. I chose these “official” Sony VW200 Projector thread and the Iscan V30 A/V Processor thread as this conserns both these products but is also realy a HDMI “cable lenght” problem and solution listing.

To make a long story short I have all my “low definition” (DVD, Cable, LD, S-Beta-D-VHS) hardware conected to the VP30 and then to the VW200 HDMI 2 input but the “high definition” (BR, HDDVD) hardware conected to the HDMI 1 input, but thats another story. The problems concern the HDMI2 input connection.

Problem 1.

First I conected a 10 m QED Cunex HDMI-P cable to the VW200 from the VP30 and found the picture to be much “grainier” and overall not so good a picture than I knew was possible with a shorter HDMI lead.

Solution 1.

I then added a Clicktronick HDMI repeater/extender to the end of the 10m Qed cable (as suggested in the Clicktronick user manual as in most HDMI r/e instructions) and then a 1,5m HQ HDMI cable from the HDMI r/e to the VW200. The picture cleard up, the “grain” element was gone and I had a good overall picture.

Problem 2.

I now found the VP30 was not performing as it was intended with this setup. I only got it to send a 1080P/50 signal to the VW200 and that something was blocking a full 1080P/60 upconversion. Whatever I did the VP30 only managed unlocked framerates outputs of 24, 48, nothing higher and performed strangely overall (changing chosen values for output, framerate, colour space etc.)?

Solution 2.

Moved the Clicktronic to the front of the Qed cable that is the VP30 front but not and I repeat not at the projector end as usually suggested with all these HDMI repeaters/extenders. Now the picture is fine and the VP30 works with all outputs signals including 1080p60 as it should.

Just thought I share this with the forum even if these “official” VW200 and VP30 threads seem to be mostly “dead” now, for a lack of a better word. Anyway if anyone in the “expert field” cares to comment on these findings, that would be interesting. If not here are at least some solutions listed for people looking for HDMI extender/repeater solutions on the internet. Hope someone finds them helpfull.

I have just installed the abt102 card and can see it under information as well as access new deinterlacing features even shows acceptance of my 480i signals in information. Problem is that I only get a square blue screen. I have output set to 720p 72hz. I am using an lg bh200 component 480i into vp30 to rgbhv Dwin hd700, the Dwin ony accepts H-V- don't know if that makes a difference. Any help, suggestions is greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Levy

Hi Levy07, Have you tried inputing any other resolutions such as 720 @ 60hz,into the projector to see if you can get A picture??.. or A rez that was working before you installed the ABT102 card

Set up the timing through the VP30's front panel and Make sure you have your projector turned off while doing it....


Cheers....

I will try setting it up with projector turned off. The projector gave a nice 720p 72hz picture prior to installation.

For you DVDO experts out there. Does the VP50 have anything over the VP30 regarding lower resolution sources (DVD, VHS, Beta, Cable etc.) and if so can the VP30 be modified to equal the VP50 regarding this. Note that I am not talking HD sources (Blue Ray, HD-DVD players etc.). Thought this was the right forum to get a answer to this question. THX!

No, with an ABT102 card in the VP30, they are just about the same in regard to SD sources.

No, with an ABT102 card in the VP30, they are just about the same in regard to SD sources.

Thank you for your prompt reply. This opens another "door" and the question behind that is. How does one know if there is a ABT102 card present in a VP30. Does DVDO ship the VP30 with the ABT102 fitted now or are they always sold as accessories?

I don't know if VP30 machines are still available new from ABT. And if they're they'd likely be more expensive than a 2nd hard VP50 anyway. If you have a VP30 on hand you can check the deinterlacing menu and if it has a Gamemode1/2 setting, then a ABT102 is installed.

I don't know if VP30 machines are still available new from ABT. And if they're they'd likely be more expensive than a 2nd hard VP50 anyway. If you have a VP30 on hand you can check the deinterlacing menu and if it has a Gamemode1/2 setting, then a ABT102 is installed.

Well its still listed on theyr main page along with the V20 (1499$) at 1999$.;) My V30 does not seem to have the Gamemode 1/2 in the deinterlacing menu.:p I do not use games but if the "hype" about the AB102 on the ABT main page is anything to go by, Ill need it for my monthly "techno fix".:D THX!

The Gamemodes were only a side effect of the ABT102 card, it's just easy to tell by their existance. Without the ABT102 upgrade, the VP30 is nothing but an iscan HD+ with added HDMI inputs. Since you have the VP30 already, try to get an ABT102 card, it's worth it!

The Gamemodes were only a side effect of the ABT102 card, it's just easy to tell by their existance. Without the ABT102 upgrade, the VP30 is nothing but an iscan HD+ with added HDMI inputs. Since you have the VP30 already, try to get an ABT102 card, it's worth it!

Just ordered a ABT102 from a ebay store at 199$.:D ABT main page price was 499$.:eek: THX and THX again!

Just be aware that if the seller is not an athorized DVDO reseller, DVDO dont honor the warranty if there is an issue, There is A list of authorized resellers on DVDO's web site...

Cheers....

Hello

I am considering a second hand VP30 + ABT102 but I read the scaling of 1080i is very poor. Is it possible to set the VP30 to just pass through 1080i signals so I can let my TV scale it, but have the VP30 still doing the upscaling for SD signals?

In other words does the VP30 automatically store a pass through yes/no setting seperately for each type of input signal?

Thanks

Also does the newest software update have gamma and greyscale controls for all inputs?

Thanks

Tried turning on my VP30 and it just keeps staying at start up screen saying dvdo powered by abt and sometimes the led screen won't even come on. My wife told me today she plugged it in today and unplugged looking for the right plug for the dvdo player. Did this break something?Any suggestions?

Tried turning on my VP30 and it just keeps staying at start up screen saying dvdo powered by abt and sometimes the led screen won't even come on. My wife told me today she plugged it in today and unplugged looking for the right plug for the dvdo player. Did this break something?Any suggestions?

Sounds like you are experiencing issues with your power supply. This is a known problem. Follow this link (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=14091800&postcount=6596) to find out how to fix it. If you are comfortable soldering, the process should only take 15 minutes.

Also does the newest software update have gamma and greyscale controls for all inputs?

Thanks

The latest firmware does include output gamma correction.

Hello

I am considering a second hand VP30 + ABT102 but I read the scaling of 1080i is very poor. Is it possible to set the VP30 to just pass through 1080i signals so I can let my TV scale it, but have the VP30 still doing the upscaling for SD signals?

The scaling features of the VP30 are very good, what isn't optimal is deinterlacing of 1080i signals. What resolution is your display?

In other words does the VP30 automatically store a pass through yes/no setting separately for each type of input signal?

Thanks

I'm not positive on this one, but given the text on the DVDO website describing the Passthrough feature (which I've pasted below, bold emphasis is my own), it does appear that the VP30 will work the way you want.

The new Passthrough mode allows digital and analog signals to be passed through without any deinterlacing or scaling. Passthrough mode allows an HDMI input signal to be passed through to the HDMI output and an analog input, on the BNC input, to be passed through to the BNC output. Passthrough mode does still allow colorspace conversion to be done on the HDMI inputs, so if an input signal is 1080p YCbCr 4:4:4 and you would like to output this to a 1080p display with a DVI input, the iScan VP30 can convert this signal to a 1080p RGB 4:4:4 output. Menu selections that are not available while the signal is passed through are grayed out in the OSD. While in Passthrough mode an error condition is reported over the RS232 protocol if a function which does not work is accessed. Like the 'Deinterlacing' and 'Overscan' options in the 'Input Adjust' menu, 'Passthrough' can be set up on a per input/per format basis. Signals with a resolution of to 1080p-60 can be passed through the VP30.

The scaling features of the VP30 are very good, what isn't optimal is deinterlacing of 1080i signals. What resolution is your display?
I'm not positive on this one, but given the text on the DVDO website describing the Passthrough feature (which I've pasted below, bold emphasis is my own), it does appear that the VP30 will work the way you want.

The new Passthrough mode allows digital and analog signals to be passed through without any deinterlacing or scaling. Passthrough mode allows an HDMI input signal to be passed through to the HDMI output and an analog input, on the BNC input, to be passed through to the BNC output. Passthrough mode does still allow colorspace conversion to be done on the HDMI inputs, so if an input signal is 1080p YCbCr 4:4:4 and you would like to output this to a 1080p display with a DVI input, the iScan VP30 can convert this signal to a 1080p RGB 4:4:4 output. Menu selections that are not available while the signal is passed through are grayed out in the OSD. While in Passthrough mode an error condition is reported over the RS232 protocol if a function which does not work is accessed. Like the 'Deinterlacing' and 'Overscan' options in the 'Input Adjust' menu, 'Passthrough' can be set up on a per input/per format basis. Signals with a resolution of to 1080p-60 can be passed through the VP30.

This is my final (I hope) but biggest gripe with the VP30 (+added cards). The sound drop outs on HDMI/HDCP made the VP30 useless. I literally had it out of my system for a while- and heard about it every day from my wife.... But that was cleared up nicely with a new firmware update, It rarely happens any more. However, I bought the VP30 because, even though it wouldn't do 1080p (which I didn't even have yet), it supported pass-through. This would limit the extra configurations involved in routing additional cables directly from 1080p sources to the displays.

But this feature seems to have just "gone away". And now, adding insult to injury, they are selling EDGE devices that do more than I initially wanted from my VP30 + add-ons, and for less than 1/4 the price!

If the DVDO guys still read this thread, do me a favor, make me an offer for my VP30 and cards, trading even up for an EDGE and accessories or credit for all the work I did as a paying customer/beta tester. Seriously. I complained very little given all the problems I had. You guys sold me this unit and literally said "you will never need anything else". In all honesty, the EDGE looks like just what I "need"...cures my lack of inputs, 1080p, everything.

Right not, from the discussions above, the function of the VP30 I use the most is its weakest area of performance. That stinks!

I bought the VP30 because, even though it wouldn't do 1080p (which I didn't even have yet), it supported pass-through.

But this feature seems to have just "gone away".

wait. which feature? pass-through?

i didn't know it had gone away.

i mean doesn't 1.14 provide pass-through in a way that solves your issue or did i miss something?

wait. which feature? pass-through?

i didn't know it had gone away.

i mean doesn't 1.14 provide pass-through in a way that solves your issue or did i miss something?

Sorry, I should have been clearer. 1080P pass-through has never worked for "me" on any firmware release and many suggestions from senior members here.

I "stepped-up" to the VP30 + add-on card as "I would never need to buy anything else-firmware upgrades would allow constant features and updates". And it does do nice things for SD content and lower end feeds. But I have never been able to improve 1080i content, and 1080P gives me either "no signal" blinking lights (or auto-changing to a higher priority input), or a solid blue or solid black screen.

Plus, it stunk seeing the VP50 come out (especially since my VP30 would be "all I would ever need"- so why did his VP50 appear literally weeks after my purchase?), with firmware updates galore, as my VP30 sat- unhooked- because I couldn't change a channel on my cable box without losing all sound until I completely removed power from the VP30, performing a total reboot.

I will admit that there have been times when the folks at DVDO (especially the "Josh" poster) have stepped up. When my power supply failed after a few months, a post here got me a PM and a new power supply overnighted- that's service.

I also received a PM offering a beta version of the new firmware when I posted about having to completely unhook my VP30 as we could not change channels on the cable box (which I partially blame HDCP and the failure of many manufacturers to adhere to standards, especially regarding the handshake-hence why not everyone saw the problem).

But overall, this unit isn't doing what I thought it would do, what I was sold on it doing, and seeing EDGE units (and yes, less powerful in some aspects than the VP30, but I am not running a public theater) for $500 on ads here, Ebay, basically all over- well, it makes me want to puke as the resale value on my VP30 went down quicker than an Airbus in a windstorm (sorry, too soon?) and I may take a loss selling my 2k+ investment to buy a discounted EDGE.

Originally Posted by zot23
My VP30 is having some pretty severe issues. Basically, it just turns on and off, on and off, over and over. Never really gets to displaying a picture, the only signs of life are the "Powered by ABT" startup screen, then a flash of red from the power LED, back to power down, rinse and repeat.

Any ideas what this could be?

I'm having the same problem and called:

Synergy Audio Visual Pty Ltd
107 Northern Rd
Heidelberg Heights Victoria 3081
Australia
phone: 03 9459 7474
fax: 03 9459 4343
service fax: 03 9459 1454

I was informed by the Synergy service technician that the power supply problem is due to the unit "not being spec to Australian conditions" and that I could order one direct from Anchor Bay Technologies, Inc

I then asked why they didn't have any in stock and he said that they do but I need to go through the people I purchased the unit through as they have a policy of not dealing with the public.

Having spent AUD$3400.00 on the unit + AUD$600.00 on the Deinterlacing Card, I'm a bit pissed off that even though I'm more than happy to part with the $50 or so to solve the problem, that I have to go through a third person company who possibly views my request for a small item as not too important resulting in me wasting my time chasing them up.

If Anchor Bay Technologies, Inc. want satisfaction re their product I would like to suggest (as a person who owns his own business) that the way things are currently structured (re back up) has not been set up to win over customers.

Sorry, I should have been clearer. 1080P pass-through has never worked for "me" on any firmware release and many suggestions from senior members here.

I "stepped-up" to the VP30 + add-on card as "I would never need to buy anything else-firmware upgrades would allow constant features and updates". And it does do nice things for SD content and lower end feeds. But I have never been able to improve 1080i content, and 1080P gives me either "no signal" blinking lights (or auto-changing to a higher priority input), or a solid blue or solid black screen.

Plus, it stunk seeing the VP50 come out (especially since my VP30 would be "all I would ever need"- so why did his VP50 appear literally weeks after my purchase?), with firmware updates galore, as my VP30 sat- unhooked- because I couldn't change a channel on my cable box without losing all sound until I completely removed power from the VP30, performing a total reboot.

I will admit that there have been times when the folks at DVDO (especially the "Josh" poster) have stepped up. When my power supply failed after a few months, a post here got me a PM and a new power supply overnighted- that's service.

I also received a PM offering a beta version of the new firmware when I posted about having to completely unhook my VP30 as we could not change channels on the cable box (which I partially blame HDCP and the failure of many manufacturers to adhere to standards, especially regarding the handshake-hence why not everyone saw the problem).

But overall, this unit isn't doing what I thought it would do, what I was sold on it doing, and seeing EDGE units (and yes, less powerful in some aspects than the VP30, but I am not running a public theater) for $500 on ads here, Ebay, basically all over- well, it makes me want to puke as the resale value on my VP30 went down quicker than an Airbus in a windstorm (sorry, too soon?) and I may take a loss selling my 2k+ investment to buy a discounted EDGE.

Sorry to hear about your issues with the VP30. The VP30/ABT102 hasn't been an issue for me and I've been happy with it's performance in my system. There are many features of it that I don't use though, the EDGE would be a better solution, but the VP30 was the only practical solution when I purchased it (I got in on the AVS pre-order deal back in 2005).

I will agree with you on one point though, I wish that DVDO would provide some sort of trade-in program for VP30 owners who wish to switch to the EDGE.

Sorry to hear about your issues with the VP30. The VP30/ABT102 hasn't been an issue for me and I've been happy with it's performance in my system. There are many features of it that I don't use though, the EDGE would be a better solution, but the VP30 was the only practical solution when I purchased it (I got in on the AVS pre-order deal back in 2005).

I will agree with you on one point though, I wish that DVDO would provide some sort of trade-in program for VP30 owners who wish to switch to the EDGE.



DVDO IS providing a "semi-trade in deal" for us. I spoke with them for about an hour the other day (support and sales). They don't seem to think the can post the offer details here as it is through a singular reseller to avoid, well, basically admitting the new 7o0-800MSRP unit knocks the pants of those we paid over 2k (or more) for.

Actually, you are given a "substantial" discount on a new EDGE with free (as in beer) shipping. Your are NOT required to return your "trade-in" as "We are overflowing old stock- keep it as a spare or second or just sell it on Ebay, we don't even have the room'".

He also said (paraphrasing here) "the EDGE is a superior device in almost every ares. You will have a 60 day return privilege as before, without penalty, but no one has returned one as of yet it yet and I don't any will. The EDGE software is leaps and bound above or previous models offered in a superior chassis for the price of a nice DVD player"

Who would have thought my 2k plus VP30(cards) would be a dedicated piece for my video game collection!!!!??? I am going to have to start charging access to the Media and Game rooms!!!!

DVDO IS providing a "semi-trade in deal" for us. I spoke with them for about an hour the other day (support and sales). They don't seem to think the can post the offer details here as it is through a singular reseller to avoid, well, basically admitting the new 7o0-800MSRP unit knocks the pants of those we paid over 2k (or more) for.

Actually, you are given a "substantial" discount on a new EDGE with free (as in beer) shipping. Your are NOT required to return your "trade-in" as "We are overflowing old stock- keep it as a spare or second or just sell it on Ebay, we don't even have the room'".

He also said (paraphrasing here) "the EDGE is a superior device in almost every ares. You will have a 60 day return privilege as before, without penalty, but no one has returned one as of yet it yet and I don't any will. The EDGE software is leaps and bound above or previous models offered in a superior chassis for the price of a nice DVD player"

Who would have thought my 2k plus VP30(cards) would be a dedicated piece for my video game collection!!!!??? I am going to have to start charging access to the Media and Game rooms!!!!supershawn, sounds like they are going to work with you on this ... I don't have my VP30 anymore picked mine up back when it "WAS THE TOP DOG" before the VP50's came out and no issues with it until that one day came and all hell broke loose just too many little issues with the power supply.. Alot of handshaking issues and HDMI input challenges anyway they took it in and gave me a new one very clean.... replaced my de-interlace card upgraded the firmware for me and then I sold it... :). I planned on picking up the edge but I am gun shy. I only wanted the processing from the edge for SD DVD's. I opted out and picked up an OPPO BDP-83 for the processing for SD DVD's very happy now....

Steve

Yesterday, I observed a horizontal shift in the image coming from VP30. The image was shifted towards the left and there were some artifacts/lines on the right side of the screen.

I looked in all the options and found that horizontal pan has changed itself to -13396. I remembered that it was earlier set to 0. I don't know how it changed to that number.
Also when I tried to switch profiles, the DVDO would lock up and I had to remove power-cable to reset it. It was very painful to set horizontal pan back to zero, using the arrow key, therefore I had to do a reset to factory default and reconfigure everything again.

Has anybody seen this before? How to avoid this? I have 1.14 installed.

i haven't seen this on my VP30, but i just want to say i am seeing now occasionally similar issues on the new DVDO Edge and it's kind of annoying. maybe the issues are unrelated, but maybe not.

Hi
I am new here and I have just found this forum after looking for Info on the VP30.
I have just purchased the VP30 with the optional vrs card, I havent got it yet but was looking for information on it.
After trying to read through 224 pages I am getting a bit worried with my purchase as a lot of you seem to be having problems, should I be worried?
All I need the VP30 to do is act as a hdmi switcher for my Blu Ray and
HD DVD 1080P or 1080i Video and try to improve my Laserdisc / VCR picture and output it all through the one HDMI cable.
Will i be able to do thiis with the VP 30?
Thanks Alan

Unless you paid WAY less than $500, the price you can roughly get a new Edge for, you might have bought the wrong processor. The VP30 can't do proper deinterlacing on 1080i material and has serious flaws in passing through 1080p resoutions, especially if you plan on switching from Passthrough to processing and vice versa a lot.

Don't misread me, the VP30 is a nice processor especially for processing SD material, but the DVDO processors were traditionally weak with Laserdisc material and the VP30 is from a time where 1080i video was only on the doorstep into our homes.

Can I have my HD Video (bluray & hddvd) passing through and going out HDMI and My SD Video (Laserdisc/VCR) being enhanced by the vp30 and going out over Component? would that have less flaws than all out the one Hdmi?
Cheers
PS.
How much does the Edge cost and are there optional cards you need for it or is it all there?.

Can I have my HD Video (bluray & hddvd) passing through and going out HDMI and My SD Video (Laserdisc/VCR) being enhanced by the vp30 and going out over Component?
The output is not the problem. HDMI all the way is fine, but you might run into problems with passing through "newer" signals like 1080p24. And the VP30 definitely won't pass through HD audio signals.

How much does the Edge cost and are there optional cards you need for it or is it all there?.
between $500 on ebay and $600 through retail channels. There are no add ons, everything's included.

The output is not the problem. HDMI all the way is fine, but you might run into problems with passing through "newer" signals like 1080p24. And the VP30 definitely won't pass through HD audio signals.

Just some added detail on this. The VP30 is HDMI 1.1 compliant, which means that it won't pass through HD audio formats (TrueHD, DTS-MA) as bitstream. If the player converts these signals to LPCM, the VP30 should be able to pass them through.

Hi
Sound doesnt worry me as i run the Analog outs from my HD DVD & Blu Ray Players straight into my amp.
Thanks

Ok
I have my VP30 up and running and everything work perfectly, The only thing i would like it to do is let me put a 1080P signal in.
My software is vers 1.11b, Has the new 1.14 software got any problems, what features will I lose by getting the 1080p passthrough in the new software.
I am only interested in the picture as all my sound is fed in to my amp.
Thanks in advance.
PS. There is also a warning about serial/USB drivers with the new firmware is this a Major problem?

Yes if you use the "non" recomended USB to RS232 converter you may Brick your VP30
DVDO recommend FTDI chip based USB-RS232 adapters and the driver they have on the DVDO web site as well as Tera Term... I just use an old PC with RS232 and the supplied RS232 cable with tera-term and have never had A problem updating...

When I had the VP30/ABT102 Pass through was working fine from memory but that was before V 1.04... When in pass through mode You were still able to change colour space contrast brightness and Gamma from memory...

Cheers

Yes if you use the "non" recomended USB to RS232 converter you may Brick your VP30
DVDO recommend FTDI chip based USB-RS232 adapters and the driver they have on the DVDO web site as well as Tera Term... I just use an old PC with RS232 and the supplied RS232 cable with tera-term and have never had A problem updating...

When I had the VP30/ABT102 Pass through was working fine from memory but that was before V 1.04... When in pass through mode You were still able to change colour space contrast brightness and Gamma from memory...

Cheers

Hi
I dont quite understand the FTDI thing, Is it only because of the Serial port to USB that is the problem, What if I use a DB9 Male to Female extension cable will that bypass the problem?.

When you say RS232 do you mean the 9 pin male VGA type connector on the back of my PC?

I have the VP30/ABT102 and I dont get passthrough with vers. 1.11b do you remember what Version you had and where can I find it.

Sorry to ask so many questions but I really dont want to stuff this up but I also really want the passthrough feature because I find the Picture is a little grainy compared to going straight through to my CRT at 1080P.
Thanks Alan

Hi
What if I use a DB9 Male to Female extension cable will that bypass the problem?.

Yes.

When you say RS232 do you mean the 9 pin male VGA type connector on the back of my PC?

You need a nine pin SERIAL cable, not video cable. It's unlikely you have a 9 pin VGA connector (but not impossible) as they are normally 15 pin. See http://pinouts.ru/

BTW: Test it on something other than your VP30... You could easily loop back Tx to Rx...

Mark

Yes.

You need a nine pin SERIAL cable, not video cable. It's unlikely you have a 9 pin VGA connector (but not impossible) as they are normally 15 pin. See http://pinouts.ru/

BTW: Test it on something other than your VP30... You could easily loop back Tx to Rx...

Mark

Hi
I have the 9 pin VGA Female to Male Cable that came with the VP30 and I have 2 x 9 pin VGA outs on my Mobo and there not Monitor outs.
One of them has a Symbol engraved in to the PC back plate which looks like a Universal serial Bus logo the one with an arrow and two lines coming from it.
Thanks

Hi
I have the 9 pin VGA Female to Male Cable that came with the VP30 and I have 2 x 9 pin VGA outs on my Mobo and there not Monitor outs.
One of them has a Symbol engraved in to the PC back plate which looks like a Universal serial Bus logo the one with an arrow and two lines coming from it.
Thanks

VGA = Video Graphics Array, so perhaps it's really a RS-232 serial cable. Other than that, it's tough to say what you have. Perhaps your manual for your PC would help out.

Mark

Hi
Thanks for all the help so far.
I said VGA because it is the same shape as a VGA only it has 9 pins not 15.
I know much older computers had a 9 pin VGA out but that is really old.

So Has everyone that has upgraded to software 1.14 happy or is there an older version that is better and if so where is it available for download?

Sorry for sounding so Anal but I am in Australia and if anything goes wrong with this I am screwed trying to find a tech to fix it.
Thanks

Hi
I dont quite understand the FTDI thing, Is it only because of the Serial port to USB that is the problem, What if I use a DB9 Male to Female extension cable will that bypass the problem?.

When you say RS232 do you mean the 9 pin male VGA type connector on the back of my PC?

I have the VP30/ABT102 and I dont get passthrough with vers. 1.11b do you remember what Version you had and where can I find it.

Sorry to ask so many questions but I really dont want to stuff this up but I also really want the passthrough feature because I find the Picture is a little grainy compared to going straight through to my CRT at 1080P.
Thanks AlanHi Alan, No prob with questions mate..

What I mean by A FTDI chipset based USB to RS232 converter is that the internal brain of the USB-RS232 converter is A type that DVDO Know to work reliably..

I have used el-cheapo $15 USB-RS232 converters and had issues with them losing sync & if that happens while you are updating your VP30 you run A high risk of BRICKING it meaning it will be in A useless state...

Here's A Link to Australian Dist of the correct USB-RS232 converter,
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/easysync-premium-gold-usb-rs232-adapter-cable-1-meter-cable.html

But you need to use the Driver that is on DVDO's web site not the one that comes with the converter...

Sorry I dont recall what Version firmware I ran with the VP30/Abt102 as it was well over A year ago when I upgraded to the VP50pro...

Hope this helps...
Cheers....

1.14 supports pass through, 1.10 does not.

for my unit (and possibly only my unit? we never really got to the bottom of this with DVDO support) 1.14 introduced a small problem with color. for this reason i prefer to run 1.10. older versions are not posted on their site- someone had to email it to me.

i think 1.10 was a good stable version. not familiar with 1.11 or any variants of it so i don't know if any other features got added between 1.10 and 1.14 besides pass-through.

Ok, So If i load Tera program and the 1.14 on my old PC and connect it to the VP30 using the serial port out of my PC through a serial cable female to male to the VP30 I will work?

What color Problems with 1.14?
Thanks

Ok, So If i load Tera program and the 1.14 on my old PC and connect it to the VP30 using the serial port out of my PC through a serial cable female to male to the VP30 I will work?

What color Problems with 1.14?


Yes, your old PC with TeraTerm and a straight serial-to-serial connection should work without any issues.

I honestly can't remember the color issues with 1.14, I am sure others here do, but I think it was related to passthrough.

OK, Heres what happened.
The software loaded without a hitch.:D
I Turned the Blu Ray Player on, selected 1080P, Set the VP30 to passthrough and output to 1080P, Put on Casino Royale and James Bond looks like a Smurf,:confused: everybody in the movie has blue skin and the Ocean has turned red.:mad:
I then turn off the Passthrough and I get nothing, I set my blu ray player to 1080i and its back to how it was.
So updating to the new software did nothing to get 1080P.:(
Anyone had this problem and fixed it?
Thanks

First what projector or display are you using??

By what you are saying You may have the RGB or Component set wrong ..

As A starting point Just set the Player, VP30, and display to RGB and see if that fixes the colour space issue (wrong colours)..

Second you may have the aspect ratio set wrong, if the display is 16:9, set the player to 16:9 under display type then set the VP30 to auto or 16:9 screen for Frame aspect ratio & then make sure your display is set to its native 16:9....

Hope this helps,
Cheers....

Hi
Thanks for the reply.
All the settings on my Projector, Blu Ray / HD DVD Player and VP 30 are correct, The VP30 just does not want to Passthrough a 1080P signal with this 1.14 software without giving me Color problems.
What Software works with the passthrough?
Where can I find It?
Can I backdate the software?
Thanks

What type of projector do you have ?

Yes you can roll back to an older ver firmware...
Cheers....

Crt

just for the record my color issue with 1.14 was described previously here
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13082437#post13082437
and here
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13085490#post13085490
and as far as i can tell is not at all the same issue being reported by G70

Crt
Are, So do you have A G70 CRT projector with A Moome HDMI internal card or HD fury ? for HDCP..

If the above is true, I am not sure if you are aware but 1080p is not optimum for A G70 it cant fully resolve that rez and will look soft compared to say 1080i / 1920x800p/ 810p/ 817p or 720p...

Also CRT's cant display A 24Hz frame rate as it's way to low for A CRT but can display 1080i/ 1080p @60Hz..

Cheers...

Are, So do you have A G70 CRT projector with A Moome HDMI internal card or HD fury ? for HDCP..

If the above is true, I am not sure if you are aware but 1080p is not optimum for A G70 it cant fully resolve that rez and will look soft compared to say 1080i / 1920x800p/ 810p/ 817p or 720p...

Also CRT's cant display A 24Hz frame rate as it's way to low for A CRT but can display 1080i/ 1080p @60Hz..

Cheers...
Hi
Thanks for all the help.
Yeah, I know about 24Hz.

I have read this about the G70 as well and It is not true, In my case anyway.
I have a 2.4 mt wide screen and sit back about 5 mt.
It is connected by a HDMI cable running into a Sony First Hdmi moome card.
I have the Sharpest, Cleanest picture you could ever want.

I have tried 1080i but I could see lines, I tried the 720p and it was soft.

I think that the guy who wrote this originally had an older G70, I say this because I Bought another G70 last month as a Back Up and the Guy I bought it from is a TV Tech Repairman.
He did try 1080p but it was soft and because he had read the same thing, that it cant fully resolve he never tried any further with it and stuck to 1080i.

He offered to come around and do the Astig on mine and lens flap.
When he walked in and saw the 1080P pic i had up from a blu ray his jaw dropped, He could not believe how Good the pic was and that was before we did any adjusments.
He ended up giving my G70 an Astig adjustment and a focus and the picture got even better.

The only thing we could think of as to why the 1080P worked so well with mine was that his G70 was one of the early makes with differant firmware and mine was one of the last to be made.
The tube condition on both sets was about the same 8/10.

Anyway back to my color problem.
The size of my picture is not the problem, when I said that James Bond looked like a Smurf I meant in Color not stature.
I tried to look at the pics in the link but they werent the best quality to tell if it was the same problem.
Peoples faces that have a Pink color turned Bluish and objects that are blue turned redish. I have tried the Color space and there is no differance.
Thanks again

Hi
have never taken a pic of my screen before or ever uploaded one, so here goes.
Cheers
This has the Passthrough mode on and the Blu ray player Set to 1080P.
If I keep the BD Player on 1080p and the Passthrough mode off I get a just a blue screen.

Hi G70, Have you been in contact with DVDO about your issue ??

I looked through my Hard drive for the VP30 firmware up date's, I had them all at one
time but must have deleted them all :(..

I would get in contact with DVDO and ask them to Email you some of the older versions of firmware that also have the 1080p pass through feature, as I am sure they would have copy's of all of them ...

Cheers....

Hello forum members. I am trying to interface the HDMI output of the VP-30 to an HDFury2 to connect with the component (1080i) input of my Pioneer Elite 710HD display. I cannot get a picture out of the HDFury2 even though the VP-30 seems to be processing the signal (steady blue LED on the VP-30) and there is a blue light on the HDFury2 indicating there is a signal that is being processed by that.

Any ideas? Incidentally, the HDFury2 will output a useable signal to the display if the source is connected directly to it's input bypassing the VP-30 even though there are random 3-4 second dropouts of the video blanking the display.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

there is a "HDCP on/off" toggle somewhere in the VP30 as i recall- did you try that?

If you are trying to get your fury to output component, then make sure that the switch on the side isn't set to rgb.

DVDO IS providing a "semi-trade in deal" for us. I spoke with them for about an hour the other day (support and sales). They don't seem to think the can post the offer details here as it is through a singular reseller to avoid, well, basically admitting the new $700-800MSRP unit knocks the pants of those we paid over 2k (or more) for.

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Who would have thought my 2k plus VP30(+cards) would be a dedicated piece for my video game collection!!!!??? I am going to have to start charging access to the Media and Game rooms!!!!

I spoke with many of you who were quoted a different rate than was given to be straight by DVDO support, and some that got rates $200 higher for no reason. The original offer did not include returning the DVDO which some of you were told this is now a must.

We have invested ~2200US in this unit. Some of us scoff in laughter (Fabio is a member here, right), but for some of us, we have to save for parts of this hobby.

As I originally spoke (for and hour and 45 minutes) to DVDO about my issues-how I completely bypassed the unity more than 50% of the time. And I let them know the forum was full of similar complaints (he didn't deny it at all), I am willing to take the lead in working with DVDO on a non-;itigation matter to get newer units, versions of our units that work as advertised (and DVDO, the features your removed from the posts and website are still visible on Archive,org.Oops)- and I have local copies both hard copy and digital.

We just want out nits to WORK. Personally, I will take the EDGE "upgrade" you offered me over the phone, I transcribed all the details. Unfortunately OneCall jacked the price by 200.00 and played dumb.But something has got to be done. If not, your forum will earn a place right under TV Authority. And judging by the PM's I get alone, I suspect this post will be copied and pasted across the web like wildfire.

-Shawn Croswell :confused:

It means the computer is trying to shove data down the VP30's throat faster than it can eat it. Do you have transmit set to CR+LF and have you changed flow control from Xon/Xoff to "hardware"? You have to do that every time you open Tera Term because it won't remember it.

Mike

have been doing that and still no go. Worked well with the vp 50pro but the vp30 hasn't.

Ok, when i start the transer it says "loading. Sten come up with error on VP30, in tera term it says, "loading failure..... data overflow, check flow control"

So if anyone knows that that means please let me know.
Thanks guys.

it's what I have been expericing also would vista have anything to do with it?